X-NEWS: spcvxb comp.os.vms: 47863 Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.1B4+SPC1 6/9/92 VAX/VMS V5.5-2; site spcvxb.spc.edu Path: spcvxb!rutgers!ucla-cs!ucivax!news.service.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!zippy.telcom.arizona.edu!venus.sunquest.com!spades.aces.com!gavron Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: A new Executive Software story... Message-ID: <22APR199306354312@spades.aces.com> From: peterson@jelly.ky.com (Bill Peterson) Date: 22 Apr 93 13:35:00 GMT Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM Sender: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron) References: <735348193.858933.KASHTAN@TGV.COM> Organization: ACES Research Inc. NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha.sunquest.com News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Lines: 93 In article <735348193.858933.KASHTAN@TGV.COM>, KASHTAN@TGV.COM (David L. Kashtan) writes... #I want to alert everyone to some marketing that Executive Software #is now doing that I feel is blatantly dishonest: # # I get this message to call "so-and-so" from Executive # Software. I call him and he says that he is from Executive # Software and that Bill Peterson of KPY recommended me # to him because Bill was so happy with Executive Software's # product. So I blow him off and figure I wasted about 10 # minutes of my life but at least I will never hear from him # again. # # A few weeks later the same guy calls -- only this time # the company name (Executive Software) is instantly # recognizable and I throw the message in the trash # (good -- only 5 seconds out of my life wasted!). # #Today I am around so I don't get a message slip and take the phone call. #You guessed it -- he is from Executive Software and Bill Peterson of KPY #recommended me to him because Bill was so happy with Executive Software's #product. So this time, I ask him who Bill Peterson is and he is "surprised" #that I don't remember him. I ask him for Bill Peterson's phone number at #KPY and he gives it to me. # #So I call Bill (since he must be some long-lost friend of mine who just #happens to LOVE Executive Software's stuff). Well, lo and behold, Bill #DOESN'T KNOW ME. In fact, Bill has never heard of me before -- but Bill #sure DOES know Executive Software. He says "Oh, they must have gotten #your number off of a list I gave them". Now I think I understand -- #I say "I see, your company sold Executive Software a mailing-list that #I was unfortunate enough to be on". And he says "No -- we didn't sell #them a mailing-list, they ONLY PAY US IF THEY MAKE A SALE AFTER CALLING #YOU". You get the picture: # # My good buddy Bill Peterson isn't really a satisfied Executive # Software customer being a pal to me and passing on my name to # them so that my life won't have this void in it because I don't # use their software. # # He is paid to provide Executive Software with a list of numbers # to cold-call so that they can imply that he is a very happy # Executive Software customer who recommended that they call you. # #So if Executive Software cold-calls you -- you can be sure that good-ole #Bill was doing you a favor. If you want to call Executive Software and let #them know what you think of this kind of deceptive marketing, be my #guest (though I don't think it would be worth wasting your time on). # #On the other hand if Executive Software calls you what you might do #is tell them you were indeed interested in Disk defragementation and #I/O caching software but that Bill Peterson at KPY does all your #software evaluation and that they should talk to him at (408) 734-2564. #You'll be glad you did. # #David # # David! David! I'm surprised you don't remember me! Bill Peterson here... No, not KPY but KY. In fact, my host JELLY.KY.COM is the system that manages our lubrication facility! We met years ago, surely you remember... I sold you those four almost- new tires and discounted your spark-plug-rotation 50%! I'm shocked you don't remember. Well I'm no longer in the muffler business, I now help Executive Software with their products Disktrasher and Disktrasher-killer (Remember, the more effective your cache, the less you care about fragmentation ;) Buy Buy Buy Buy Buy! Bill Peterson -- peterson@jelly.ky.com peterson@astroglide.ky.com peterson_b@eisner.dsroberts.decuserve.org "I am the way and the life and the stairway to Heaven, so place my name upon your license plates." - Mark, II:23 "So come now children of the beast, be Strong, and Shout at the Devil!" - M. Crue The humor impaired may at this time slowly disengage their cranial-rectal interfaces and exhale in the manner known a "laughing." E