From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Wed Jan 1 04:54:01 2014 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 04:54:01 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock Radio show + Staff Picks for Best of 2013 Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com NEW RADIO SHOW + AURAL INNOVATIONS STAFF PICKS FOR BEST OF 2013 HAPPY NEW YEAR!! January begins the SEVENTEENTH year of Aural Innovations!! First, I've posted the staff picks for best releases of 2013. Check them out at our reviews page: http://aural-innovations.com/blog/ Second, I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #323). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio: All VESPERO Special (show #323) Vespero are an Astrakhan, Russia based band who formed in 2003 and have been quickly developing into one of the most exciting instrumental bands on the contemporary Space Rock scene. Utilizing elements of Space Rock, Psychedelia, Krautrock, Progressive Rock and ethnic influences, Vespero morph, mutate and blend their various influences into music that varies from one album to the next, but is always uniquely Vespero. This show celebrates the music of this wonderful band. Vespero - "Angriff, ran, versenken!" (from Subkraut: U-Boats Willkommen Hier) Vespero - "Rito" (from Rito) Vespero - "Nullus" (from The Split Thing) Vespero - "Float" (from Foam) Vespero - "Careful With That Axe, Eugene" (from Careful With That Axe, Eugene) Vespero - "Amaryllis" (from By The Waters Of Tomorrow) Vespero - "Thymus" (from Droga) Vespero - "Tower" (from Liventure #19) Vespero - "J'ai Mai Aux Dents" (from Shrunken Head Music) Vespero - "Jennifer" (from Vespero / Temple Music split) Vespero - "Cosmos" (from Liventure #21) Vespero - "Serata (i.n.s.i.e.m.e.)" (from Surpassing All Kings) Vespero - "Red Machine" (from Strange Fish 2) http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 1 09:29:49 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:29:49 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <003e01cf065f$88d64fc0$9a82ef40$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 31/12/2013 19:35, mary sullivan wrote: > I really loved Babylon 5, and was so disappointed not to see > Besta get what he deserved. There's a series of nine canonical books somewhere, rounding out the stories of Centauri Prime and Bester. One of them does finally reveal the showdown between Garibaldi and Bester. > A friend tried to convince me he wasn't > actually evil, but misguided, I strongly disagree The backstory in the books reveals how Bester got the way he was. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 1 09:33:32 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:33:32 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <0912FE47-89DE-4417-B7B1-8CEED58F017C@uchicago.edu> Message-ID: On 31/12/2013 20:02, Arin Komins wrote: > Hey, I like the 70s original, cheese and all! > > The story The Blue and the Green is very reminiscent of The Midwich Cuckoos and is pretty good. In a disco kind of way :-) Brunner wrote a story "Children of The Lighning" or somesuch which is like a very savage version of Midwich Cuckoos. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 1 09:35:51 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:35:51 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <8438140339940436.WA.kirthgersenhotmail.co.uk@listserv.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: On 31/12/2013 20:04, Ralph wrote: > > The Chrysalids is a good read - but it's hardly "fun stuff about t.p.s." Can't believe the Beeb haven't done a TV version of Chrysalids. Fantastic story. Then there's Dying Inside by Soilverberg. I'm sure that Psi Power was based more than a little on that one. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jan 1 12:30:57 2014 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 09:30:57 -0800 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <006901cf06d7$6645a7d0$32d0f770$@aural-innovations.com> Message-ID: Hi Folks... Jerry's already posted a link I see....but to reiterate... Well, I know you were just dying to hear how my efforts to come up with a Best of 2013 list turned out, weren't you? :) Well, wait no more! Here are my Top 10 of the year (if you want to see the WHOLE list, plus the lists of all the actual A-I writers (who actually contribute throughout the year!), you'll have to click on the link below)...from the more than 90 candidates I had heard in the last year, not counting those I heard in genres outside the A-I realm (I didn't consider Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, etc., even Clutch to be candidates for my list, for example.) I see I'm the only one still ranking them top to bottom, which I admit is a little silly, since on any given day, I would rearrange the list significantly (although on average, it would probably resemble the published one to a great degree). But listicles (what a terrible word!) are what 90% of the internet has become, so... Anyway, I hope all this great music isn't being simply lost in the overwhelming scale of our global culture these days. It seems there's just way too much of everything for any one little thing to get noticed much, although maybe it was always that way and it was just never possible to become aware of what *wasn't* being noticed. If that makes any damn sense at all, which I'm sure it doesn't. I hope also that bands that *are* being noticed to some degree, actually see something tangible come about from their efforts. I imagine that making music of this sort will never make anybody any significant amount of money (Carl's unsolicited $3 being a noteworthy exception), but it would be nice if the bands could at least buy a new pedal or microphone or something occasionally. I am sorry to say I am one that is not holding up his end of the bargain, as I buy little music anymore (though I did a pretty good job of it for 30 years or more), as my employment situation is once again completely tenuous or even nonexistent for the near future at least. So I am left with lots of streaming and little buying, as some part of me even wonders if maintaining a "collection" will even be necessary or have any advantage at all in a few years. Spotify, Rhapsody, Bandcamp, and the like are starting to make me wonder if "having music" even means anything anymore, if you know what I mean. I kinda hope at least the connection between the fans and artists can be maintained, more than just clicking a "like" button or something. I'm not sure how this is gonna end up, does anybody? Rather than prejudice people for or against something based on my lame descriptions/comparisons, I've put links to everything I list so that people can go, have a listen, and judge for themselves whether they like what they hear. And if you do, and can send a $/quid or two their way, then I feel a little better about not doing it myself. :) I can pat myself on the back as a facilitator. I have a lot of free time at the moment again, (somewhat) unfortunately, so I can waste a lot of time searching for new stuff now and again, as well as catching up on all the great old stuff that is now appearing on any number of online sites. And that alone takes up a great deal of time. Anyway, hopefully our "genre" will continue to flourish in its comfortable near-total obscurity at least. :) I sense the awareness of "space rock" waning from the relative high point of the late 90s/early 00s, though perhaps that's just because I don't get out much like I used to. Herzberg is still a big deal, and Scott's band OSC (#9 below) just got invited there (yay!), so if you can make it to central Germany, there's still an audience there for you. :) I hope I can make it, but kinda doubt it. But if Hawkwind comes to No. America this March (where's the final tour dates??!), I'll be happy. Speaking of Mr. Heller, I'm sure he will have a Best of 2013 list up on his site (writingaboutmusic.blogspot.com), where I often learn of new things myself, and also Ian Abrahams I imagine will have something, if not already. He's at http://spacerockreviews.blogspot.com/ of course. Keith H. P.S. The January issue of Shindig magazine (a UK publication?) is supposedly all about Space Rock, featuring some of the aforementioned authors. I went to Barnes & Noble here in town to find it, but they only had December issues still (as of last week). I'll have to try again soon. ---------------------------------- For all the lists.... http://aural-innovations.com/blog/ 1. White Manna (US) ? Dune Worship http://whitemanna.bandcamp.com/album/dune-worship 2. Electric Eye (NO) ? Pick-up, Lift-off, Space, Time http://electriceye.bandcamp.com/album/pick-up-lift-off-space-time 3. Cave (US) ? Threace http://www.dragcity.com/products/threace http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaar268H5zI 4. Nik Turner (UK) ? Space Gypsy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OytZekcZst4 5. Pyramidal (SP) ? Frozen Galaxies http://pyramidalmusic.bandcamp.com/album/frozen-galaxies 6. 3rd Ear Experience (US) ? Boi http://www.robbirobb.com/thirdearexperience/boi/ 7. The Timelords (UK) ? Convergence http://thetimelords2.bandcamp.com/album/convergence 8. The Ultra Electric Mega Galactic (US) ? S/T http://theuemg.bandcamp.com/album/the-ultra-electric-mega-galactic 9. Oresund Space Collective (DK/US) ? Organic Earthly Flotation http://oresundspacecollective.bandcamp.com/album/organic-earthly-flotation 10. Brujas del Sol (US) ? Moonliner http://brujasdelsol.bandcamp.com/album/moonliner-2 From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jan 1 15:21:46 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 15:21:46 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52C427C7.6020706@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, Mike will look up "dying inside." Haven't read that one, I figured you'd come up with a suggestion or 2, thanks, and I hope this year is a good one for you. Your friend, Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 9:36 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations On 31/12/2013 20:04, Ralph wrote: > > The Chrysalids is a good read - but it's hardly "fun stuff about t.p.s." Can't believe the Beeb haven't done a TV version of Chrysalids. Fantastic story. Then there's Dying Inside by Soilverberg. I'm sure that Psi Power was based more than a little on that one. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jan 1 15:24:00 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 15:24:00 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52C4265D.8080309@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike, do you know if the b5 books are available as audio downloads, I'd pay for that. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 9:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations On 31/12/2013 19:35, mary sullivan wrote: > I really loved Babylon 5, and was so disappointed not to see > Besta get what he deserved. There's a series of nine canonical books somewhere, rounding out the stories of Centauri Prime and Bester. One of them does finally reveal the showdown between Garibaldi and Bester. > A friend tried to convince me he wasn't actually evil, but misguided, > I strongly disagree The backstory in the books reveals how Bester got the way he was. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Jan 1 21:03:15 2014 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 21:03:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <1388597457.63107.YahooMailBasic@web121603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 1/1/2014 12:30 PM, Keith Henderson wrote: > Rather than prejudice people for or against something based on my lame descriptions/comparisons, I've put links > to everything I list so that people can go, have a listen, and judge for themselves whether they like what they > hear. And if you do, and can send a $/quid or two their way, then I feel a little better about > not doing it myself. :) Just picked up Electric Eye, Cambrian Explosion, Kikagaku Moyo from your list :) and Rovo and System 7 from Jeffs'. Grabbed Domovoyd, Sophies Earthquake and The Cosmic Dead split from Scott's blog. Threw a few on my wishlist. I have most of Jerry's list, but have to add Census of Hallucinations to my collection. A big thanks for the links :) Jerry From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jan 1 21:31:07 2014 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 10:31:07 +0800 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <52C4C8E3.1030804@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for the links On 2 January 2014 10:03, Jerry G wrote: > On 1/1/2014 12:30 PM, Keith Henderson wrote: > >> Rather than prejudice people for or against something based on my lame >> descriptions/comparisons, I've put links >> > > to everything I list so that people can go, have a listen, and judge for > themselves whether they like what they > >> hear. And if you do, and can send a $/quid or two their way, then I feel >> a little better about >> > > not doing it myself. :) > > Just picked up Electric Eye, Cambrian Explosion, Kikagaku Moyo from > your list :) and Rovo and System 7 from Jeffs'. Grabbed Domovoyd, > Sophies Earthquake and The Cosmic Dead split from Scott's blog. Threw > a few on my wishlist. I have most of Jerry's list, but have to add > Census of Hallucinations to my collection. > > A big thanks for the links :) > > Jerry > From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 2 08:46:24 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:46:24 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <000001cf072f$18c16aa0$4a443fe0$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 01/01/2014 20:21, mary sullivan wrote: > Thanks, Mike will look up "dying inside." Haven't read that one, I figured > you'd come up with a suggestion or 2, thanks, and I hope this year is a good > one for you. Also, despite the garish cover The Screamies/The Lost Perception (two titles?) by Daniel Galouye is a fantastic story. They could make a great movie from that one too. Also Jack of Eagles by Blish and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by Asimov. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 2 08:47:49 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:47:49 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <000201cf072f$682423d0$386c6b70$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 01/01/2014 20:24, mary sullivan wrote: > Mike, do you know if the b5 books are available as audio downloads, I'd pay > for that. Not heard of that. Can you get one of the pad robot voices to read 'em to you? I use that a lot to have my Galaxy tab read the interweb news to me. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jan 2 09:30:18 2014 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 09:30:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <1388597457.63107.YahooMailBasic@web121603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 01 Jan 2014, at 12:30 , Keith Henderson wrote: > I imagine that making music of this sort will never make anybody any significant amount of money (Carl's unsolicited $3 being a noteworthy exception), but it would be nice if the bands could at least buy a new pedal or microphone or something occasionally. Three dollars is now "significant"!? ;) Good to know, but -- yeah -- I am sticking to the day job (if I can!) ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 10:24:54 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 10:24:54 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52C56DB0.3000403@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike, Tried finding dying inside on my service, no luck, I'm sure I'll get the Asimov, and with any luck maybe a few more, thanks for the info. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:46 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations On 01/01/2014 20:21, mary sullivan wrote: > Thanks, Mike will look up "dying inside." Haven't read that one, I > figured you'd come up with a suggestion or 2, thanks, and I hope this > year is a good one for you. Also, despite the garish cover The Screamies/The Lost Perception (two titles?) by Daniel Galouye is a fantastic story. They could make a great movie from that one too. Also Jack of Eagles by Blish and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by Asimov. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 10:25:57 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 10:25:57 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52C56E05.8080304@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'll need to find the books and scan them a page at a time, ak! Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:48 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations On 01/01/2014 20:24, mary sullivan wrote: > Mike, do you know if the b5 books are available as audio downloads, > I'd pay for that. Not heard of that. Can you get one of the pad robot voices to read 'em to you? I use that a lot to have my Galaxy tab read the interweb news to me. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Jan 2 10:29:26 2014 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 09:29:26 -0600 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <001d01cf07ce$ca1fc1d0$5e5f4570$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: Mary, Dying Inside is available in audiobook form from Audible. http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Inside/dp/B007WZTV7Y Thx, Arin On Thu, 2 Jan 2014, mary sullivan wrote: :Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations : :Mike, Tried finding dying inside on my service, no luck, I'm sure I'll get :the Asimov, and with any luck maybe a few more, thanks for the info. : :Mary : :-----Original Message----- :From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On :Behalf Of Mike Holmes :Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:46 AM :To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET :Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations : :On 01/01/2014 20:21, mary sullivan wrote: :> Thanks, Mike will look up "dying inside." Haven't read that one, I :> figured you'd come up with a suggestion or 2, thanks, and I hope this :> year is a good one for you. : :Also, despite the garish cover The Screamies/The Lost Perception (two :titles?) by Daniel Galouye is a fantastic story. They could make a great :movie from that one too. : :Also Jack of Eagles by Blish and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by :Asimov. : :FoFP : :-- :The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, :with registration number SC005336. : Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jan 2 10:36:46 2014 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 10:36:46 -0500 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <1388597457.63107.YahooMailBasic@web121603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 01 Jan 2014, at 12:30 , Keith Henderson wrote: > Anyway, I hope all this great music isn't being simply lost in > the overwhelming scale of our global culture these days. It seems there's just way too much of everything for any one little thing to get noticed much, although maybe it was always that way and it was just never possible to become aware of what *wasn't* being noticed. If that makes any damn sense at all, which I'm sure it doesn't. Actually, I think it makes pretty good sense -- and I think that's true well beyond the little world of music making and listening. > I hope also that bands that *are* being noticed to some degree, actually see something tangible come about from their efforts. I imagine that making music of this sort will never make anybody any significant amount of money (Carl's unsolicited $3 being a noteworthy exception), but it would be nice if the bands could at least buy a new pedal or microphone or something occasionally. [...] > So I am left with lots of streaming and little buying, as some part of me even wonders if maintaining a "collection" will even be necessary or have any advantage at all in a few years. Spotify, Rhapsody, Bandcamp, and the like are starting to make me wonder if "having music" even means anything anymore, if you know what I mean. I kinda hope at least the connection between the fans and artists can be maintained, more than just clicking a "like" button or something. I'm not sure how this is gonna end up, does anybody? I'm not quite sure that anybody does -- but does anybody, ever? Firstly, I actually think this is a great time for music, in the sense that the capacity to make music and/or listen to the results has perhaps never been greater for a larger number of people -- and we can reasonably expect (barring global demographic catastrophe, which we should not entirely rule out!) that trend to continue. There is a lot of good (and, of course, less good) music being made all over the world and a lot of chances to find it that simply didn't exist before. There are numerous difficulties of various kinds in terms of finding what you want and then being able to listen to it readily (legal, technical, informational, etc.), but we shall see how all that plays out. Of course, the "music industry" as grew up in the '50s-'80s has been pretty much trashed in consequence of things having changed faster than the industry itself, but I think this is largely a situation of "oooo, when I were a lad, things were diffr'nt!". For example, the idea of a collection" is largely an artifact of recording/distribution technology that depends on physical media. Obviously, before records existed, no one had "collections" -- except, one supposes, of sheet music ... or of composers! (in the "collections" of rich patrons? ;) ). I do think human nature will continue to lead people to want to display their associations with artists they like: even if we all have all-streaming access to all music all the time (which we do not; not yet, anyway), I might still want to buy the merchandise associated with my artist, see the live show with other fans, etc. We already see touring and merchandise becoming the major revenue streams for many artists (some version of the "Grateful Dead model"?), and so a great deal is going to be about building relationships with fans and generating senses of community that encourage people to spend their increasingly limited and fragmented entertainment budget of both time and money on that given artist. In other words, if Artist X (and their other fans) interacts with me through social media in what I perceive to be a cool way, I will spend more time paying attention to what they are doing and be more likely to spend money on music, videos, T-shirts, fluffy slippers, concert tickets, etc. This has, to an extent, always been true -- but the ability for people to interact in this way has vastly increased in speed and scale, so it has become accordingly more important. Nevertheless, I think we are some way off from all-streaming, all-the-time. You can really only do that effectively with a good wi-fi connection, and those are still relatively few and far between. Streaming music through a cellular phone network is just way too data-intensive at the moment; too costly (for everyone). The day that this becomes the norm is perhaps coming, but it is not yet today or tomorrow. But, in any case, music is still being made and heard. I can, in my spare time, record music on my dodgy computer that sounds (with my artistic limits!) _pretty_ good in comparison with what required state-of-the-art facilities in the year of my birth. I can make that music available to a large percentage of humanity at little to no cost. Yeah, lots of people can do it better than I, and I can't make a living at it (though luckily I don't need to), but that's still pretty amazing. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 10:59:03 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 10:59:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <5E58023A-8F87-4296-97D5-8A3CB72F4492@carlaz.com> Message-ID: A collection although it takes up space is always worth keeping, having the tangible article is the best, and they haven't made downloads that even sound as good as a real cd, I know, I'm guilty of using them all the time, given the choice I'll take the real deal. $3 is more than reasonable for quality music, (which I'm sure it is, having been there when Chris worked with Carl and friends in the studio, a real fun time for me. We did have a nice little scene in Boston, fond memories, and thanks to Scott for introducing us. In fact, Carl, if you would, write me, and tell me where to send the 3 dollars. I may not have a lot of cash, to hear music made by a friend is a very worthwhile cause. Dave's show along with Jerry, and Christian, to name the most known shows to me are a nice way to get the music out there to all of us. No, there isn't a lot of money in it, but that isn't what it's All about. Music raises the healing vibration of this world, and spreads information, it's easier than being a wandering minstrel. Rock on, Mary worked -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:37 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 On 01 Jan 2014, at 12:30 , Keith Henderson wrote: > Anyway, I hope all this great music isn't being simply lost in the > overwhelming scale of our global culture these days. It seems there's just way too much of everything for any one little thing to get noticed much, although maybe it was always that way and it was just never possible to become aware of what *wasn't* being noticed. If that makes any damn sense at all, which I'm sure it doesn't. Actually, I think it makes pretty good sense -- and I think that's true well beyond the little world of music making and listening. > I hope also that bands that *are* being noticed to some degree, > actually see something tangible come about from their efforts. I imagine that making music of this sort will never make anybody any significant amount of money (Carl's unsolicited $3 being a noteworthy exception), but it would be nice if the bands could at least buy a new pedal or microphone or something occasionally. [...] So I am left with lots of streaming and little buying, as some part of me even wonders if maintaining a "collection" will even be necessary or have any advantage at all in a few years. Spotify, Rhapsody, Bandcamp, and the like are starting to make me wonder if "having music" even means anything anymore, if you know what I mean. I kinda hope at least the connection between the fans and artists can be maintained, more than just clicking a "like" button or something. I'm not sure how this is gonna end up, does anybody? I'm not quite sure that anybody does -- but does anybody, ever? Firstly, I actually think this is a great time for music, in the sense that the capacity to make music and/or listen to the results has perhaps never been greater for a larger number of people -- and we can reasonably expect (barring global demographic catastrophe, which we should not entirely rule out!) that trend to continue. There is a lot of good (and, of course, less good) music being made all over the world and a lot of chances to find it that simply didn't exist before. There are numerous difficulties of various kinds in terms of finding what you want and then being able to listen to it readily (legal, technical, informational, etc.), but we shall see how all that plays out. Of course, the "music industry" as grew up in the '50s-'80s has been pretty much trashed in consequence of things having changed faster than the industry itself, but I think this is largely a situation of "oooo, when I were a lad, things were diffr'nt!". For example, the idea of a collection" is largely an artifact of recording/distribution technology that depends on physical media. Obviously, before records existed, no one had "collections" -- except, one supposes, of sheet music ... or of composers! (in the "collections" of rich patrons? ;) ). I do think human nature will continue to lead people to want to display their associations with artists they like: even if we all have all-streaming access to all music all the time (which we do not; not yet, anyway), I might still want to buy the merchandise associated with my artist, see the live show with other fans, etc. We already see touring and merchandise becoming the major revenue streams for many artists (some version of the "Grateful Dead model"?), and so a great deal is going to be about building relationships with fans and generating senses of community that encourage people to spend their increasingly limited and fragmented entertainment budget of both time and money on that given artist. In other words, if Artist X (and their other fans) interacts with me through social media in what I perceive to be a cool way, I will spend more time paying attention to what they are doing and be more likely to spend money on music, videos, T-shirts, fluffy slippers, concer! t tickets, etc. This has, to an extent, always been true -- but the ability for people to interact in this way has vastly increased in speed and scale, so it has become accordingly more important. Nevertheless, I think we are some way off from all-streaming, all-the-time. You can really only do that effectively with a good wi-fi connection, and those are still relatively few and far between. Streaming music through a cellular phone network is just way too data-intensive at the moment; too costly (for everyone). The day that this becomes the norm is perhaps coming, but it is not yet today or tomorrow. But, in any case, music is still being made and heard. I can, in my spare time, record music on my dodgy computer that sounds (with my artistic limits!) _pretty_ good in comparison with what required state-of-the-art facilities in the year of my birth. I can make that music available to a large percentage of humanity at little to no cost. Yeah, lots of people can do it better than I, and I can't make a living at it (though luckily I don't need to), but that's still pretty amazing. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 11:09:34 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:09:34 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "thx," I love it, THX1138 was a real mind bender. I imagine it costs to get books through audible books? It can't be too much though, so when Tim brings home my debit I'll do it. Thanks Mike and Arin for keeping me sane with books. Mike the only 1 I could find, as I figured was Nightfall. I'm going to read that now, Oh, goodie, another stories, (I may have read it before, the title is familiar, and I get the Asimov mag. And have read many of his books. Thanks for the telepath stuff. The more, the better, can't get enough, I really want to understand it, but I don't know if we're supposed to have that knowledge, it may be too tempting to use. Either I'm actually a bit of a precog, or have a high rate of coincidences happen in my life, it gets very strange sometimes, really. I wanted to read the story based on 1 of my all time favorites, Psi Power. Ah well, I did wait years for the Telepathist, so I can wait. All this cool music to check out, and books, fantastic. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations Mary, Dying Inside is available in audiobook form from Audible. http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Inside/dp/B007WZTV7Y Thx, Arin On Thu, 2 Jan 2014, mary sullivan wrote: :Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations : :Mike, Tried finding dying inside on my service, no luck, I'm sure I'll get :the Asimov, and with any luck maybe a few more, thanks for the info. : :Mary : :-----Original Message----- :From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On :Behalf Of Mike Holmes :Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:46 AM :To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET :Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations : :On 01/01/2014 20:21, mary sullivan wrote: :> Thanks, Mike will look up "dying inside." Haven't read that one, I :> figured you'd come up with a suggestion or 2, thanks, and I hope this :> year is a good one for you. : :Also, despite the garish cover The Screamies/The Lost Perception (two :titles?) by Daniel Galouye is a fantastic story. They could make a great :movie from that one too. : :Also Jack of Eagles by Blish and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by :Asimov. : :FoFP : :-- :The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, :with registration number SC005336. : Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jan 2 12:34:36 2014 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:34:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <002201cf07d3$8f319940$ad94cbc0$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 02 Jan 2014, at 10:59 , mary sullivan wrote: > $3 is more than reasonable for quality music, (which I'm sure it is, having been there when Chris worked > with Carl and friends in the studio, a real fun time for me. We did have a > nice little scene in Boston, fond memories, and thanks to Scott for > introducing us. In fact, Carl, if you would, write me, and tell me where to > send the 3 dollars. I may not have a lot of cash, to hear music made by a > friend is a very worthwhile cause. Luckily, no one has to send 3 dollars -- but, on the other hand, no one can get physical media with my music either! So streaming and downloads are what there is. I have music from Espada Negra (my little project with Andy Gilham, ex of this list) and a few tunes from myself on Bandcamp: https://carledlundanderson.bandcamp.com/ https://espadanegra.bandcamp.com/ I like Bandcamp, though I don't know how accessible it is for those who cannot see! If it turns out to be terrible for unsighted navigation, you might be able to write them and tell them. They seem like good enough folks who run it, and might fix it up. Their focus is on audio, after all -- not video. :) I leave visitors the option to "buy" music from those pages, but I don't exactly go out of my way to encourage it. I'm just a hobbyist -- if people listen to a few songs and like them, that's more than enough for me. Of course, I do get a kick if someone really likes it enough that they throw a couple of bucks in the hat. Since it is all done through PayPal, and in several currencies (none local!), I am not quite sure what I would do with the contributions -- but, so far, the songs haven't earned enough to really worry about that! :) After all the fees that would likely apply, I might be able to spring for a packet of peanuts or something. :) The same songs (and some more, less polished things!) can also be streamed or downloaded from Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson https://soundcloud.com/espada-negra No options to buy there! :) I'm actually working on a new recording of one of the songs that I recorded with Chris 20 years ago, and I'm trying to get the original keyboardist from that little band, who effectively co-wrote the song with me, to join in on synths and backing vocals -- but it's a long way from done, yet! > Dave's show along with Jerry, and Christian, to name the most known shows to > me are a nice way to get the music out there to all of us. No, there isn't a > lot of money in it, but that isn't what it's All about. Music raises the > healing vibration of this world, and spreads information, it's easier than > being a wandering minstrel. Indeed. I see a lot of value in the online press and a communities that (inevitably) form around these kinds of artistic creations. There are a lot of little bands all over the world who can now reach out and touch me from quite a distance, via individuals and groups who pool and share their knowledge and resources. I've heard more than a few things from small bands in the last year where I thought "this is great; I'm gonna buy this", and you really feel like you're getting something real, made by people not so different from yourself and liked by more people not so different than yourself -- for all that I'm getting a download from people I will probably never meet or see in some other corner of the world. Still feels real. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 2 12:31:33 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:31:33 -0600 Subject: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 Message-ID: I knew praying to the late baron admiral of the fleet was a good idea :) HAWKWIND QUOTE: Update on Hawkwind US Spring tour! Hello Folks, We are pleased to let you know that Hawkwind have appointed a US manager, Rich Rees from Dissident Booking in Los Angeles. He is very experienced and will be liaising with the respective venues and promoters regarding the spring shows. He will also be looking at booking a few other shows in areas that were missed out in the last schedule. All of the venues have been contacted and we are just awaiting confirmation that they are happy to go ahead with the shows. Then, as soon as contracts are exchanged and deposits in place we will post full details on our websites. We are all very excited to be working with Rich, it will take a lot of pressure off our hard-working UK management and free them up to work on other events planned for the year ahead..... So, lets extend a big welcome to Rich from all the Hawkwind family and hope that this is the start of a great working relationship, which will enable us to share our live Hawkwind experience with all our friends in North America....who have waited long enough! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 2 12:42:28 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:42:28 -0600 Subject: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: also, if I heard what I thought I heard, if legal marijuana works ouit in colorado, we are fast headed for legal smoking here. I might even try some On 1/2/14, mike c wrote: > Bless you mary, and blush > > On 1/2/14, mike c wrote: >> I knew praying to the late baron admiral of the fleet was a good idea :) >> >> HAWKWIND QUOTE: >> >> Update on Hawkwind US Spring tour! >> >> Hello Folks, >> >> We are pleased to let you know that Hawkwind have appointed a US >> manager, Rich Rees from Dissident Booking in Los Angeles. >> >> He is very experienced and will be liaising with the respective venues >> and promoters regarding the spring shows. >> >> He will also be looking at booking a few other shows in areas that >> were missed out in the last schedule. >> >> All of the venues have been contacted and we are just awaiting >> confirmation that they are happy to go ahead with the shows. Then, as >> soon as contracts are exchanged and deposits in place we will post >> full details on our websites. >> >> We are all very excited to be working with Rich, it will take a lot of >> pressure off our hard-working UK management and free them up to work >> on other events planned for the year ahead..... >> >> So, lets extend a big welcome to Rich from all the Hawkwind family and >> hope that this is the start of a great working relationship, which >> will enable us to share our live Hawkwind experience with all our >> friends in North America....who have waited long enough! >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 2 12:34:34 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:34:34 -0600 Subject: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bless you mary, and blush On 1/2/14, mike c wrote: > I knew praying to the late baron admiral of the fleet was a good idea :) > > HAWKWIND QUOTE: > > Update on Hawkwind US Spring tour! > > Hello Folks, > > We are pleased to let you know that Hawkwind have appointed a US > manager, Rich Rees from Dissident Booking in Los Angeles. > > He is very experienced and will be liaising with the respective venues > and promoters regarding the spring shows. > > He will also be looking at booking a few other shows in areas that > were missed out in the last schedule. > > All of the venues have been contacted and we are just awaiting > confirmation that they are happy to go ahead with the shows. Then, as > soon as contracts are exchanged and deposits in place we will post > full details on our websites. > > We are all very excited to be working with Rich, it will take a lot of > pressure off our hard-working UK management and free them up to work > on other events planned for the year ahead..... > > So, lets extend a big welcome to Rich from all the Hawkwind family and > hope that this is the start of a great working relationship, which > will enable us to share our live Hawkwind experience with all our > friends in North America....who have waited long enough! > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Jan 2 12:58:52 2014 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 17:58:52 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <002301cf07d5$07aa8d40$16ffa7c0$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: Yes, Audible costs, but not that badly. Can either buy one offs, or do the monthly $14.95 to get access to 1 book a month. I do the latter ;-) They also tend to do free trials: with a get two for free type of deal :-) That's how they hooked me. BTW, Mary, I assume you know about: https://librivox.org/ (free public domain audiobooks) http://podiobooks.com/category/science-fiction/ (more freebies, mostly from public domain, open licensed books, and unknown authors.) https://archive.org/details/oldtimeradio (old time radio, but includes some real gems for science fiction, like X minus 1) http://www.openculture.com/freeaudiobooks (has many freebies, including Philip K. Dick, Asimov, Gaiman, Arthur C. Clarke, Lovecraft, Poe) Also, a good list that points at other sites: http://www.techsupportalert.com/free-audiobooks-science-fiction-fantasy Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mary sullivan Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:10 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations "thx," I love it, THX1138 was a real mind bender. I imagine it costs to get books through audible books? It can't be too much though, so when Tim brings home my debit I'll do it. Thanks Mike and Arin for keeping me sane with books. Mike the only 1 I could find, as I figured was Nightfall. I'm going to read that now, Oh, goodie, another stories, (I may have read it before, the title is familiar, and I get the Asimov mag. And have read many of his books. Thanks for the telepath stuff. The more, the better, can't get enough, I really want to understand it, but I don't know if we're supposed to have that knowledge, it may be too tempting to use. Either I'm actually a bit of a precog, or have a high rate of coincidences happen in my life, it gets very strange sometimes, really. I wanted to read the story based on 1 of my all time favorites, Psi Power. Ah well, I did wait years for the Telepathist, so I can wait. All this cool music to check out, and books, fantastic. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations Mary, Dying Inside is available in audiobook form from Audible. http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Inside/dp/B007WZTV7Y Thx, Arin On Thu, 2 Jan 2014, mary sullivan wrote: :Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations : :Mike, Tried finding dying inside on my service, no luck, I'm sure I'll get :the Asimov, and with any luck maybe a few more, thanks for the info. : :Mary : :-----Original Message----- :From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On :Behalf Of Mike Holmes :Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:46 AM :To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET :Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations : :On 01/01/2014 20:21, mary sullivan wrote: :> Thanks, Mike will look up "dying inside." Haven't read that one, I :> figured you'd come up with a suggestion or 2, thanks, and I hope this :> year is a good one for you. : :Also, despite the garish cover The Screamies/The Lost Perception (two :titles?) by Daniel Galouye is a fantastic story. They could make a great :movie from that one too. : :Also Jack of Eagles by Blish and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by :Asimov. : :FoFP : :-- :The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, :with registration number SC005336. : Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 13:34:07 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:34:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <34A8EFFF-A4B3-4F0D-95CE-85A51B6A6E21@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Hi Carl, thanks for the links, when I do get a paypal account, I'll send some cash your way, it costs money to make music. I do use soundcloud, a lot. I hope you and your family are well, and I hope Luna enjoyed the holidays. Take care, it's snowing here, maybe a foot, just the kind of weather to snuggle up with a book and a cat. I am going to get the Dying Inside book from the audible book site, as my luck would have it, I get 2 for the price of one, since it is by Silverberg, I'll try the Perkins Library, first, maybe they have it for free, then I can get 2 books they don't have. I know, I can be a scamster, it's from growing up with parents who lived thru the depression and being from a large family, I've learned to be frugal, maybe too much so, so I'm going to try to change that, a little bit, over this year. I guess it's all balance. Lots of love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:35 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 On 02 Jan 2014, at 10:59 , mary sullivan wrote: > $3 is more than reasonable for quality music, (which I'm sure it is, having been there when Chris worked > with Carl and friends in the studio, a real fun time for me. We did have a > nice little scene in Boston, fond memories, and thanks to Scott for > introducing us. In fact, Carl, if you would, write me, and tell me where to > send the 3 dollars. I may not have a lot of cash, to hear music made by a > friend is a very worthwhile cause. Luckily, no one has to send 3 dollars -- but, on the other hand, no one can get physical media with my music either! So streaming and downloads are what there is. I have music from Espada Negra (my little project with Andy Gilham, ex of this list) and a few tunes from myself on Bandcamp: https://carledlundanderson.bandcamp.com/ https://espadanegra.bandcamp.com/ I like Bandcamp, though I don't know how accessible it is for those who cannot see! If it turns out to be terrible for unsighted navigation, you might be able to write them and tell them. They seem like good enough folks who run it, and might fix it up. Their focus is on audio, after all -- not video. :) I leave visitors the option to "buy" music from those pages, but I don't exactly go out of my way to encourage it. I'm just a hobbyist -- if people listen to a few songs and like them, that's more than enough for me. Of course, I do get a kick if someone really likes it enough that they throw a couple of bucks in the hat. Since it is all done through PayPal, and in several currencies (none local!), I am not quite sure what I would do with the contributions -- but, so far, the songs haven't earned enough to really worry about that! :) After all the fees that would likely apply, I might be able to spring for a packet of peanuts or something. :) The same songs (and some more, less polished things!) can also be streamed or downloaded from Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/carledlundanderson https://soundcloud.com/espada-negra No options to buy there! :) I'm actually working on a new recording of one of the songs that I recorded with Chris 20 years ago, and I'm trying to get the original keyboardist from that little band, who effectively co-wrote the song with me, to join in on synths and backing vocals -- but it's a long way from done, yet! > Dave's show along with Jerry, and Christian, to name the most known shows to > me are a nice way to get the music out there to all of us. No, there isn't a > lot of money in it, but that isn't what it's All about. Music raises the > healing vibration of this world, and spreads information, it's easier than > being a wandering minstrel. Indeed. I see a lot of value in the online press and a communities that (inevitably) form around these kinds of artistic creations. There are a lot of little bands all over the world who can now reach out and touch me from quite a distance, via individuals and groups who pool and share their knowledge and resources. I've heard more than a few things from small bands in the last year where I thought "this is great; I'm gonna buy this", and you really feel like you're getting something real, made by people not so different from yourself and liked by more people not so different than yourself -- for all that I'm getting a download from people I will probably never meet or see in some other corner of the world. Still feels real. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 13:38:40 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:38:40 -0500 Subject: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe I should try it? I hear it's fun, and good for pain, too? Mary-----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:42 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 ealso, if I heard what I thought I heard, if legal marijuana works ouit in colorado, we are fast headed for legal smoking here. I might even try some On 1/2/14, mike c wrote: > Bless you mary, and blush > > On 1/2/14, mike c wrote: >> I knew praying to the late baron admiral of the fleet was a good idea >> :) >> >> HAWKWIND QUOTE: >> >> Update on Hawkwind US Spring tour! >> >> Hello Folks, >> >> We are pleased to let you know that Hawkwind have appointed a US >> manager, Rich Rees from Dissident Booking in Los Angeles. >> >> He is very experienced and will be liaising with the respective >> venues and promoters regarding the spring shows. >> >> He will also be looking at booking a few other shows in areas that >> were missed out in the last schedule. >> >> All of the venues have been contacted and we are just awaiting >> confirmation that they are happy to go ahead with the shows. Then, as >> soon as contracts are exchanged and deposits in place we will post >> full details on our websites. >> >> We are all very excited to be working with Rich, it will take a lot >> of pressure off our hard-working UK management and free them up to >> work on other events planned for the year ahead..... >> >> So, lets extend a big welcome to Rich from all the Hawkwind family >> and hope that this is the start of a great working relationship, >> which will enable us to share our live Hawkwind experience with all >> our friends in North America....who have waited long enough! >> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 13:40:42 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:40:42 -0500 Subject: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: " Bless you mary, and blush" now what did I do? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:35 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 Bless you mary, and blush On 1/2/14, mike c wrote: > I knew praying to the late baron admiral of the fleet was a good idea > :) > > HAWKWIND QUOTE: > > Update on Hawkwind US Spring tour! > > Hello Folks, > > We are pleased to let you know that Hawkwind have appointed a US > manager, Rich Rees from Dissident Booking in Los Angeles. > n> He is very experienced and will be liaising with the respective venues > and promoters regarding the spring shows. > > He will also be looking at booking a few other shows in areas that > were missed out in the last schedule. > > All of the venues have been contacted and we are just awaiting > confirmation that they are happy to go ahead with the shows. Then, as > soon as contracts are exchanged and deposits in place we will post > full details on our websites. > > We are all very excited to be working with Rich, it will take a lot of > pressure off our hard-working UK management and free them up to work > on other events planned for the year ahead..... > > So, lets extend a big welcome to Rich from all the Hawkwind family and > hope that this is the start of a great working relationship, which > will enable us to share our live Hawkwind experience with all our > friends in North America....who have waited long enough! > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 13:40:42 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:40:42 -0500 Subject: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks for the update! Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:32 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 I knew praying to the late baron admiral of the fleet was a good idea :) HAWKWIND QUOTE: Update on Hawkwind US Spring tour! Hello Folks, We are pleased to let you know that Hawkwind have appointed a US manager, Rich Rees from Dissident Booking in Los Angeles. He is very experienced and will be liaising with the respective venues and promoters regarding the spring shows. He will also be looking at booking a few other shows in areas that were missed out in the last schedule. All of the venues have been contacted and we are just awaiting confirmation that they are happy to go ahead with the shows. Then, as soon as contracts are exchanged and deposits in place we will post full details on our websites. We are all very excited to be working with Rich, it will take a lot of pressure off our hard-working UK management and free them up to work on other events planned for the year ahead..... So, lets extend a big welcome to Rich from all the Hawkwind family and hope that this is the start of a great working relationship, which will enable us to share our live Hawkwind experience with all our friends in North America....who have waited long enough! From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 2 13:48:15 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:48:15 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just got the 2 for 1, and can get a 3 month half price deal too, so with all my sources I should be able to find a lot of good reads, many thanks for your help. Thanks too for the links, learning by doing, that's how I've got this far on the computer, I haven't heard of many of them, so I will definitely being the scamster I can be check 'em out. I'm also now seriously going to look for those b5 books, scanning will not be fun, but the reading will. I really appreciate the listings of books and sources from you, Mike, Nathan, and the links for music from Carl. Back to me book, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:59 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations Yes, Audible costs, but not that badly. Can either buy one offs, or do the monthly $14.95 to get access to 1 book a month. I do the latter ;-) They also tend to do free trials: with a get two for free type of deal :-) That's how they hooked me. BTW, Mary, I assume you know about: https://librivox.org/ (free public domain audiobooks) http://podiobooks.com/category/science-fiction/ (more freebies, mostly from public domain, open licensed books, and unknown authors.) https://archive.org/details/oldtimeradio (old time radio, but includes some real gems for science fiction, like X minus 1) http://www.openculture.com/freeaudiobooks (has many freebies, including Philip K. Dick, Asimov, Gaiman, Arthur C. Clarke, Lovecraft, Poe) Also, a good list that points at other sites: http://www.techsupportalert.com/free-audiobooks-science-fiction-fantasy Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mary sullivan Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:10 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations "thx," I love it, THX1138 was a real mind bender. I imagine it costs to get books through audible books? It can't be too much though, so when Tim brings home my debit I'll do it. Thanks Mike and Arin for keeping me sane with books. Mike the only 1 I could find, as I figured was Nightfall. I'm going to read that now, Oh, goodie, another stories, (I may have read it before, the title is familiar, and I get the Asimov mag. And have read many of his books. Thanks for the telepath stuff. The more, the better, can't get enough, I really want to understand it, but I don't know if we're supposed to have that knowledge, it may be too tempting to use. Either I'm actually a bit of a precog, or have a high rate of coincidences happen in my life, it gets very strange sometimes, really. I wanted to read the story based on 1 of my all time favorites, Psi Power. Ah well, I did wait years for the Telepathist, so I can wait. All this cool music to check out, and books, fantastic. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations Mary, Dying Inside is available in audiobook form from Audible. http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Inside/dp/B007WZTV7Y Thx, Arin On Thu, 2 Jan 2014, mary sullivan wrote: :Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations : :Mike, Tried finding dying inside on my service, no luck, I'm sure I'll get :the Asimov, and with any luck maybe a few more, thanks for the info. : :Mary : :-----Original Message----- :From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On :Behalf Of Mike Holmes :Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:46 AM :To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET :Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations : :On 01/01/2014 20:21, mary sullivan wrote: :> Thanks, Mike will look up "dying inside." Haven't read that one, I :> figured you'd come up with a suggestion or 2, thanks, and I hope this :> year is a good one for you. : :Also, despite the garish cover The Screamies/The Lost Perception (two :titles?) by Daniel Galouye is a fantastic story. They could make a great :movie from that one too. : :Also Jack of Eagles by Blish and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by :Asimov. : :FoFP : :-- :The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, :with registration number SC005336. : Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 2 14:52:58 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:52:58 -0600 Subject: Fresh Meet (coming to America) HW 2014 In-Reply-To: <52c5b2ef.431ce00a.7c0a.72ebSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 1/2/14, mary sullivan wrote: > " Bless you mary, and blush" now what did I do? you singled me out when I was feeling empowered (lie) about myself at the holidays :) From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jan 2 15:12:12 2014 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:12:12 -0800 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: <52C56DB0.3000403@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP sed... >They could make a great movie from that one too. >Also ...... and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by Asimov. Um...that story *was* already made into a movie. In fact, I was one of the two or three people that actually saw it in a theatre before its extremely quick yanking. 'Cause it was one of the very worst movies ever made. (Asimov had nothing to do with its creation, I believe.) As somebody who loved the story (it was required reading for my Science Fiction class here at Penn State (taught by author Phillip Klass (nom de plume William Tenn, not the UFO debunker guy)) in the 1980s, I found it impossible to recognize Asimov's story in said "movie." It "starred" David Birney, one-time husband of actress Meredith Baxter (-Birney), which is all I remember about it otherwise. God, that was a terrible experience. Chuffed about confirmed HW tour rescheduling news.... Keith P.S. Any word about the long-rumoured Zelazny (Amber) movie? I don't follow this stuff. I see virtually no movies at all, but might go see that one. From mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU Thu Jan 2 15:12:11 2014 From: mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 15:12:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: <1388693532.50450.YahooMailBasic@web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: > FoFP sed... > > >> They could make a great movie from that one too. >> > > >Also ...... and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by Asimov. > > Um...that story *was* already made into a movie. Aside from the movie entitled "Nightfall", the basic story was also the basis for the movie "Pitch Black" which is such a rip-off that Giger could have sued for copyright violation of his "Alien" design and Vin Diesel is channeling Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector. And yet, "Pitch Black" works, if you can forgive the rampant ripping off. John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jan 2 15:46:13 2014 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:46:13 -0800 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <52C4C8E3.1030804@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: JGJ sed... >Just picked up Electric Eye, Cambrian Explosion, Kikagaku Moyo from your list :) and Rovo and System 7 from Jeffs'. Grabbed Domovoyd, Sophies Earthquake and The Cosmic Dead split from Scott's blog. Threw a few on my wishlist. I have most of Jerry's list, but have to add Census of Hallucinations to my collection. That's awesome. You made good choices. Yeah, the Electric Eye one caught me by total surprise. It was so excellently made in addition to being cool psychedelic songwriting. But I guess they've all been in other somewhat successful bands, just not in this exact genre, so I wouldn't have known who they were beforehand. Kinda like Nik's cobbled together Space Gypsy band, that turned out to be a great blanga backing band. Anyway, Electric Eye has kind of a Spaceman 3/Spiritualized sort of vibe going on, as well as the powerpsych rock element. And then Tangerine sounds like a ripoff of Tea Party* ripping off Led Zeppelin's Kashmir, and then given the track title, maybe it's no wonder. > A big thanks for the links :) My pleasure. Now I have to start on 2014 music! Keith H. * Are they still going? If not, what's Jeff Martin doing nowadays? Anybody in our Toronto contingent up on them? From kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK Thu Jan 2 16:14:07 2014 From: kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK (Ralph) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 16:14:07 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations Message-ID: > I imagine it costs to get books through audible books? OK - I'll say it: yes, it'll cost if you go use "direct means", but not so much if you peruse the likes of "Pirate Bay" and see what they have in the way of audible books and epub/mobi formats etc. Yes, I'm a despicable human being for mentioning this obvious resource, but times are hard, and within that context, it's OK in my book to use torrent sites to sample various artists/authors - use it like a virtual "library" to find out that you like and what you don't. If you come across something good, then by all means consolidate that discovery with a legitimate purchase from an official source at a later date... For example, I didn't know I would like Jack Reacher as a character until I got hold of some of the "Audible" downloads and now I've actually laid out cash to buy some of the books... that's the way it goes.... From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 3 10:27:10 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:27:10 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <001e01cf07ce$ef740810$ce5c1830$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 02/01/2014 15:25, mary sullivan wrote: > I'll need to find the books and scan them a page at a time, ak! Thanks. Really? I like to listen to books while I'm walking. On my android phone/tablet, I just download them in "epub" format and use an android book reader (from the android Play Store). These interface to the android text-to-speech reader and so I can have the book read to over headphones as I walk. There are various voices available but they all tend to be a bit robotic. You don't get inflection or emotion read into anything, but actually I've got used to just storing a sentence in my hhead and kinda re-interpreting it as I go. The speeed of the voice readback can also be varied. It's not a patch on having a good reader read it out, but it does suffice. BTW: someewhere we have six DVDs with old out-of-copyright SF books stored on them in epub format (from some guy selling 'em on ebay). We've just moved house and so they can't be immediately found. When they turn up, I could do copies for you. Meanwhile here's a link to Dying Inside in epub format: http://filepi.com/i/GFKop1j NOTE: use a virus checker - you never know... Cheers FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 3 10:31:51 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:31:51 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <002301cf07d5$07aa8d40$16ffa7c0$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 02/01/2014 16:09, mary sullivan wrote: > "thx," I love it, THX1138 was a real mind bender. I imagine it costs to get > books through audible books? It can't be too much though, so when Tim > brings home my debit I'll do it. Thanks Mike and Arin for keeping me sane > with books. Mike the only 1 I could find, as I figured was Nightfall. I'm > going to read that now, Oh, goodie, another stories, (I may have read it > before, the title is familiar, and I get the Asimov mag. And have read many > of his books. Thanks for the telepath stuff. The more, the better, can't > get enough, There's also telepathy (with aliens) in Dennis Schmidt's "Kensho" series (4 books). It's essentially a kind of Kung Fu In Space concept (if you remember the David Rarradine TV show?). FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 3 10:36:56 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:36:56 +0000 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: <52C5C81B.50400@exchange.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: On 02/01/2014 20:12, John McIntyre wrote: > Keith Henderson wrote: >> FoFP sed... >> >>> They could make a great movie from that one too. >> >> >Also ...... and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by Asimov. >> >> Um...that story *was* already made into a movie. A very poor movie. > Aside from the movie entitled "Nightfall", the basic story was also the > basis for the movie "Pitch Black" which is such a rip-off that Giger > could have sued for copyright violation of his "Alien" design and Vin > Diesel is channeling Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector. And yet, "Pitch > Black" works, if you can forgive the rampant ripping off. It works great as horror. As alien biology though? Could alien predators really evolve just to eat the occasional crashed spacemen? FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 3 12:06:19 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:06:19 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52C6D6CE.5030707@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 10:27 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations On 02/01/2014 15:25, mary sullivan wrote: > I'll need to find the books and scan them a page at a time, ak! Thanks. Really? I like to listen to books while I'm walking. On my android phone/tablet, I just download them in Thanks Mike, what is "epub" , I always run antivirus, don't know how to scan a link in advance. If it isn't an inconvenience I would love to read those books, but don't go out of your way. Almost done with Nightfall. Mary format and use an android book reader (from the android Play Store). These interface to the android text-to-speech reader and so I can have the book read to over headphones as I walk. There are various voices available but they all tend to be a bit robotic. You don't get inflection or emotion read into anything, but actually I've got used to just storing a sentence in my hhead and kinda re-interpreting it as I go. The speeed of the voice readback can also be varied. It's not a patch on having a good reader read it out, but it does suffice. BTW: someewhere we have six DVDs with old out-of-copyright SF books stored on them in epub format (from some guy selling 'em on ebay). We've just moved house and so they can't be immediately found. When they turn up, I could do copies for you. Meanwhile here's a link to Dying Inside in epub format: http://filepi.com/i/GFKop1j NOTE: use a virus checker - you never know... Cheers FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 3 12:10:22 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:10:22 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52C6D7E7.6040508@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Sure I remember Kung Fu, and will look for the series. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 10:32 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations On 02/01/2014 Kung Fu, then there was the Kung Fu comeback show with his son. 16:09, mary sullivan wrote: > "thx," I love it, THX1138 was a real mind bender. I imagine it costs > to get books through audible books? It can't be too much though, so > when Tim brings home my debit I'll do it. Thanks Mike and Arin for > keeping me sane with books. Mike the only 1 I could find, as I > figured was Nightfall. I'm going to read that now, Oh, goodie, > another stories, (I may have read it before, the title is familiar, > and I get the Asimov mag. And have read many of his books. Thanks for > the telepath stuff. The more, the better, can't get enough, There's also telepathy (with aliens) in Dennis Schmidt's "Will look for the Kensho" series series. (4 books). It's essentially a kind of Kung Fu In Space concept (if you remember the David Rarradine TV show?). FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 3 13:25:24 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 13:25:24 -0500 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52C6D6CE.5030707@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: thanks for the link, I hate those visual challenges, Tim can help, I'll wait to hear back about virus protection, since this is a slave computer for my brother-in-law's company, I am really not supposed to use file sharing. I already got hit with malware, last year, fun stuff. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 10:27 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations On 02/01/2014 15:25, mary sullivan wrote: > I'll need to find the books and scan them a page at a time, ak! Thanks. Really? I like to listen to books while I'm walking. On my android phone/tablet, I just download them in "epub" format and use an android book reader (from the android Play Store). These interface to the android text-to-speech reader and so I can have the book read to over headphones as I walk. There are various voices available but they all tend to be a bit robotic. You don't get inflection or emotion read into anything, but actually I've got used to just storing a sentence in my hhead and kinda re-interpreting it as I go. The speeed of the voice readback can also be varied. It's not a patch on having a good reader read it out, but it does suffice. BTW: someewhere we have six DVDs with old out-of-copyright SF books stored on them in epub format (from some guy selling 'em on ebay). We've just moved house and so they can't be immediately found. When they turn up, I could do copies for you. Meanwhile here's a link to Dying Inside in epub format: http://filepi.com/i/GFKop1j NOTE: use a virus checker - you never know... Cheers FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Jan 3 13:38:42 2014 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 13:38:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <003401cf07e9$392404f0$ab6c0ed0$@sullivan1@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 02 Jan 2014, at 13:34 , mary sullivan wrote: > Hi Carl, thanks for the links, when I do get a paypal account, I'll send > some cash your way, it costs money to make music. I do use soundcloud, a > lot. Well, do send something first to someone actually trying to make a living from music -- they will need it more than I do! Or, at least, I shall hope I won't need it more than they do! ;) > I hope you and your family are well, and I hope Luna enjoyed the > holidays. Luna _always_ enjoys the holidays -- and is still currently enjoying them, as my parents arrive this evening to visit for a week or so. For Luna, starting from mid-December, There's about a month of various birthday plus family celebrations in which she scores the lion's share (and then some) of attention and presents. It takes until the end of January for her to slow down again. ;) I am pleased to report that she can sing along to the chorus of Inner City Unit's "Paint Your Windows White" fairly convincingly. ;) > I guess it's all balance. Generally true for pretty much everything, I think! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jan 4 09:59:20 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (^ AqualieN ^) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:59:20 -0600 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52c700f1.ac7f310a.5adc.2bf1SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 1/3/14, mary sullivan wrote: > thanks for the link, I hate those visual challenges, Tim can help, I'll > wait > to hear back about virus protection, since this is a slave computer for my > brother-in-law's company, I am really not supposed to use file sharing. I > already got hit with malware, last year, fun stuff. You've raised some stimulating thoughts in my mind: First I imagined: if she caught the wetiko virus would it be HER infection??? and then it HIT me..... I think I'm gonna go for it!!!! From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sat Jan 4 10:12:36 2014 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 23:12:36 +0800 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the tip about Android reading texts. Never thought about that. Dying Inside was a good novel. On 4 Jan 2014 23:01, "^ AqualieN ^" wrote: > On 1/3/14, mary sullivan wrote: > > thanks for the link, I hate those visual challenges, Tim can help, I'll > > wait > > to hear back about virus protection, since this is a slave computer for > my > > brother-in-law's company, I am really not supposed to use file sharing. > I > > already got hit with malware, last year, fun stuff. > > > You've raised some stimulating thoughts in my mind: > > First I imagined: if she caught the wetiko virus would it be HER > infection??? > > and then it HIT me..... > > I think I'm gonna go for it!!!! > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 5 11:05:04 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (^ AqualieN ^) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 10:05:04 -0600 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was just experiencing my usual "oh god daylight, and worse "early daylight", combined with the boredom that often goes along, and I decided that the song "jack of shadows" sufficiently blew me to shreds in it's incarnations a couple nights ago, that I would, once again, have a look. I ended up at wikipedia pretty much immediately, as could be expected, and I can't get through just the part at the top it's like "what??" "wot??" "WHAT??????" it's a BOOK :) I feel the same about musical catergorization and over-examinations On 1/4/14, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Thanks for the tip about Android reading texts. Never thought about that. > > Dying Inside was a good novel. > On 4 Jan 2014 23:01, "^ AqualieN ^" wrote: > >> On 1/3/14, mary sullivan wrote: >> > thanks for the link, I hate those visual challenges, Tim can help, I'll >> > wait >> > to hear back about virus protection, since this is a slave computer for >> my >> > brother-in-law's company, I am really not supposed to use file sharing. >> I >> > already got hit with malware, last year, fun stuff. >> >> >> You've raised some stimulating thoughts in my mind: >> >> First I imagined: if she caught the wetiko virus would it be HER >> infection??? >> >> and then it HIT me..... >> >> I think I'm gonna go for it!!!! >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 5 11:17:27 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (^ AqualieN ^) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 10:17:27 -0600 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: (sorry about these vents)- I just forced myself past technical bookspeak, to find out why I might have aborted "jack of shadows" and it's immediate I think: a "tidally locked world" my mind just won't flex that far, readily, when in reality I have a world of human animals that still won't face that they are pawns to more advanced creatures right here on earth!!! why does that have to be unbearable?/ why not fascinating ?? anyway WEEEE ps- the original JOS hardback artwork/image sure looks right to me, reagrdless!! On 1/5/14, ^ AqualieN ^ wrote: > I was just experiencing my usual "oh god daylight, and worse "early > daylight", combined with the boredom that often goes along, and I > decided that the song "jack of shadows" sufficiently blew me to shreds > in it's incarnations a couple nights ago, that I would, once again, > have a look. > > I ended up at wikipedia pretty much immediately, as could be expected, > and I can't get through just the part at the top > > it's like "what??" "wot??" "WHAT??????" > > it's a BOOK :) > > I feel the same about musical catergorization and over-examinations > > > > On 1/4/14, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> Thanks for the tip about Android reading texts. Never thought about that. >> >> Dying Inside was a good novel. >> On 4 Jan 2014 23:01, "^ AqualieN ^" wrote: >> >>> On 1/3/14, mary sullivan wrote: >>> > thanks for the link, I hate those visual challenges, Tim can help, >>> > I'll >>> > wait >>> > to hear back about virus protection, since this is a slave computer >>> > for >>> my >>> > brother-in-law's company, I am really not supposed to use file >>> > sharing. >>> I >>> > already got hit with malware, last year, fun stuff. >>> >>> >>> You've raised some stimulating thoughts in my mind: >>> >>> First I imagined: if she caught the wetiko virus would it be HER >>> infection??? >>> >>> and then it HIT me..... >>> >>> I think I'm gonna go for it!!!! >>> >> > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Jan 5 11:31:47 2014 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 16:31:47 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's a good book too. Not Zelazny's best, but damn fine. Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 > On Jan 5, 2014, at 10:08 AM, "^ AqualieN ^" wrote: > > I was just experiencing my usual "oh god daylight, and worse "early > daylight", combined with the boredom that often goes along, and I > decided that the song "jack of shadows" sufficiently blew me to shreds > in it's incarnations a couple nights ago, that I would, once again, > have a look. > > I ended up at wikipedia pretty much immediately, as could be expected, > and I can't get through just the part at the top > > it's like "what??" "wot??" "WHAT??????" > > it's a BOOK :) > > I feel the same about musical catergorization and over-examinations > > > >> On 1/4/14, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> Thanks for the tip about Android reading texts. Never thought about that. >> >> Dying Inside was a good novel. >>> On 4 Jan 2014 23:01, "^ AqualieN ^" wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/3/14, mary sullivan wrote: >>>> thanks for the link, I hate those visual challenges, Tim can help, I'll >>>> wait >>>> to hear back about virus protection, since this is a slave computer for >>> my >>>> brother-in-law's company, I am really not supposed to use file sharing. >>> I >>>> already got hit with malware, last year, fun stuff. >>> >>> >>> You've raised some stimulating thoughts in my mind: >>> >>> First I imagined: if she caught the wetiko virus would it be HER >>> infection??? >>> >>> and then it HIT me..... >>> >>> I think I'm gonna go for it!!!! >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 5 11:36:07 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (^ AqualieN ^) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 10:36:07 -0600 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/5/14, Arin Komins wrote: > It's a good book too. Not Zelazny's best, but damn fine. > > Thanks, > > Arin Hey, yes!! thank, I knew that and it was why I had the bravery to post I must get a brain enhancement!!! My friend loved Zelazny From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Jan 6 18:05:29 2014 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 18:05:29 -0500 Subject: OFF: AI Staff Picks for Best of 2013 In-Reply-To: <1388695573.46605.YahooMailBasic@web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 1/2/2014 3:46 PM, Keith Henderson wrote: > JGJ sed... > >> Just picked up Electric Eye, Cambrian Explosion, > Kikagaku Moyo from your list :) and Rovo and System 7 from Jeffs'. Grabbed > Domovoyd, Sophies Earthquake and The Cosmic Dead split from Scott's > blog. Threw a few on my wishlist. I have most of Jerry's list, but have > to add Census of Hallucinations to my collection. > > That's awesome. You made good choices. Yeah, the Electric Eye one caught me by total surprise. It was so excellently made in addition to being cool psychedelic songwriting. But I guess they've all been in other somewhat successful bands, just not in this exact genre, so I wouldn't have known who they were beforehand. Kinda like Nik's cobbled together Space Gypsy band, that turned out to be a great blanga backing band. Anyway, Electric Eye has kind of a Spaceman 3/Spiritualized sort of vibe going on, as well as the powerpsych rock element. And then Tangerine sounds like a ripoff of Tea Party* ripping off Led Zeppelin's Kashmir, and then given the track title, maybe it's no wonder. > >> A big thanks for the links :) > > My pleasure. Now I have to start on 2014 music! > > Keith H. > > * Are they still going? If not, what's Jeff Martin doing nowadays? Anybody in our Toronto contingent up on them? The last I saw, they were supposed to be releasing an album early this year (according to http://www.jeffmartin777.com/ ). A few in my current playlist that I didn't see on any lists: :) http://brimstonecoven.bandcamp.com/album/ii http://wehuntbuffalo.bandcamp.com/album/blood-from-a-stone http://haggard.bandcamp.com/album/various-stages-of-ice http://grasshopperhq.bandcamp.com/album/mirrors-of-the-mind http://consecration.bandcamp.com/album/univerzum-zna http://motherdust.bandcamp.com/album/volume-3 http://tuber.bandcamp.com/album/desert-overcrowded Jerry From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 6 19:20:40 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 00:20:40 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 05/01/2014 16:31, Arin Komins wrote: > It's a good book too. Not Zelazny's best, but damn fine. I seem to recall that there's also a graphic novel prequel. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jan 6 20:36:52 2014 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 01:36:52 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52CB4858.2060508@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Really? Details, ISBN? Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 > On Jan 6, 2014, at 6:23 PM, "Mike Holmes" wrote: > >> On 05/01/2014 16:31, Arin Komins wrote: >> It's a good book too. Not Zelazny's best, but damn fine. > > I seem to recall that there's also a graphic novel prequel. > > FoFP > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 7 08:29:02 2014 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:29:02 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 07/01/2014 01:36, Arin Komins wrote: >> I seem to recall that there's also a graphic novel prequel. > Really? Details, ISBN? "Shadowjock". It's in "The Illustrated Roger Zelazny". FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jan 7 08:33:08 2014 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:33:08 +0000 Subject: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations In-Reply-To: <52CC011E.6030007@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Mike. I think I even have that on my shelves :-) Time to look... Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Keef Endersons 2013 list / SF movie adaptations On 07/01/2014 01:36, Arin Komins wrote: >> I seem to recall that there's also a graphic novel prequel. > Really? Details, ISBN? "Shadowjock". It's in "The Illustrated Roger Zelazny". FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 9 14:13:15 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:13:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: <52C5C81B.50400@exchange.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: I'd imagine Nightfall would be rather visual as a movie, and there would be a lot left out or distorted by Holiwood. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John McIntyre Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 3:12 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) Keith Henderson wrote: > FoFP sed... > > >> They could make a great movie from that one too. >> > > >Also ...... and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by Asimov. > > Um...that story *was* already made into a movie. Aside from the movie entitled "Nightfall", the basic story was also the basis for the movie "Pitch Black" which is such a rip-off that Giger could have sued for copyright violation of his "Alien" design and Vin Diesel is channeling Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector. And yet, "Pitch Black" works, if you can forgive the rampant ripping off. John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 9 14:16:21 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:16:21 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: <52C5C81B.50400@exchange.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: the holiwood was not a typo, just a silly dig at the movie making giants. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John McIntyre Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 3:12 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) Keith Henderson wrote: > FoFP sed... > > >> They could make a great movie from that one too. >> > > >Also ...... and of course the classic Nightfall vovella by Asimov. > > Um...that story *was* already made into a movie. Aside from the movie entitled "Nightfall", the basic story was also the basis for the movie "Pitch Black" which is such a rip-off that Giger could have sued for copyright violation of his "Alien" design and Vin Diesel is channeling Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector. And yet, "Pitch Black" works, if you can forgive the rampant ripping off. John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 9 15:10:27 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (thee Miktilian Agender) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:10:27 -0600 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: <52cef534.8636e00a.0364.ffffbae6SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 1/9/14, mary sullivan wrote: > I'd imagine Nightfall would be rather visual as a movie, and there would be > a lot left out or distorted by Holiwood. > > Mary I think the "thundering herd of bewildered sheep" (not my term) , should all observe a few moments in "memory" of Todd Sees.....for you see, he won't be able to see a movie ever again..... I will now be referring to my close associates with a "strich" suffix on their forenames (tough love), and may I suggest that deer hunting might envoke the wrath of the deer-star-cannibal god. Godspeed you all keep your eyes, lips, tongues, body parts and lives while you meanwhile beware mountains, power lines, nightfall and one's own shadow :) ps :P did they do a good job with "end of the world" starring christpher lee?? I own it :) "ufo target earth" is "to die for:" From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 9 15:14:55 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (thee Miktilian Agender) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:14:55 -0600 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i swear I took the n out of envoke quick, looks like Astounding is on 180 gram vinyl now! look!! over there!! Sonic Attack too and more On 1/9/14, thee Miktilian Agender wrote: > On 1/9/14, mary sullivan wrote: >> I'd imagine Nightfall would be rather visual as a movie, and there would >> be >> a lot left out or distorted by Holiwood. >> >> Mary > > > I think the "thundering herd of bewildered sheep" (not my term) , > should all observe a few moments in "memory" of Todd Sees.....for you > see, he won't be able to see a movie ever again..... > > I will now be referring to my close associates with a "strich" suffix > on their forenames (tough love), and may I suggest that deer hunting > might envoke the wrath of the deer-star-cannibal god. > > Godspeed you all keep your eyes, lips, tongues, body parts and lives > while you meanwhile beware mountains, power lines, nightfall and one's > own shadow :) > > ps :P > > did they do a good job with "end of the world" starring christpher lee?? > I own it :) > "ufo target earth" is "to die for:" > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 9 16:38:17 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:38:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've heard of the series UFo, is this a movie, we were wondering, we'll see if it's available on the net, for free, of course. Mike, Would you call me tomorrow morning? It would be nice to talk, and if I'm sleeping, wasting time), I can't do that? Sorry to go off track. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of thee Miktilian Agender Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:10 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) On 1/9/14, mary sullivan wrote: > I'd imagine Nightfall would be rather visual as a movie, and there > would be a lot left out or distorted by Holiwood. > > Mary I think the "thundering herd of bewildered sheep" (not my term) , should all observe a few moments in "memory" of Todd Sees.....for you see, he won't be able to see a movie ever again..... I will now be referring to my close associates with a "strich" suffix on their forenames (tough love), and may I suggest that deer hunting might envoke the wrath of the deer-star-cannibal god. Godspeed you all keep your eyes, lips, tongues, body parts and lives while you meanwhile beware mountains, power lines, nightfall and one's own shadow :) ps :P did they do a good job with "end of the world" starring christpher lee?? I own it :) "ufo target earth" is "to die for:" From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 9 16:38:55 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:38:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: we'll be off-line for a few, so don't wait. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of thee Miktilian Agender Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:10 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) On 1/9/14, mary sullivan wrote: > I'd imagine Nightfall would be rather visual as a movie, and there would be > a lot left out or distorted by Holiwood. > > Mary I think the "thundering herd of bewildered sheep" (not my term) , should all observe a few moments in "memory" of Todd Sees.....for you see, he won't be able to see a movie ever again..... I will now be referring to my close associates with a "strich" suffix on their forenames (tough love), and may I suggest that deer hunting might envoke the wrath of the deer-star-cannibal god. Godspeed you all keep your eyes, lips, tongues, body parts and lives while you meanwhile beware mountains, power lines, nightfall and one's own shadow :) ps :P did they do a good job with "end of the world" starring christpher lee?? I own it :) "ufo target earth" is "to die for:" From ben at TMK.COM Thu Jan 9 17:07:40 2014 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:07:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: A request for some UK library research assistance In-Reply-To: <20131223130719.GA74860@gate.tmk.com> Message-ID: "Bump" ... just to remind anyone who needed to wait until after the New Year. >From my side, I contacted someone at the Museum of London. A librarian responded saying she couldn't help and suggested contacting someone at the Theatre Museum at the Victoria and Albert Museum (and gave me contact info). I've done so (just sent an email off a short while ago), and so I'm hoping that will give me something. But, as I say - any other assistance is, of course, appreciated. :-) Ben On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 08:07:19AM -0500, Ben Cohen wrote: > Hello, all, > > This is completely off-topic. I need some help with a little research on > something for a personal project. This will, I believe, probably just involve > 10-20 minutes in a library somewhere (probably anywhere?) in the UK. > > Specifically, I'm trying to find a list of the shows (plays, musicals - that > sort of thing) that were on-stage in London in November and December, 1988. My > initial thought for how to get that was to take a look at some archived > newspapers to look at performance listings from a few weeks back then. > However, the newspaper archives seem to only be available (free) from > libraries in the UK. Otherwise, they're rather expensive to get individual > issues. > > Is there, perhaps, anyone on that side of the pond who might be willing to > take a run to a library for me (or, for that matter, if you've got any other > way to find it)? > > By way of verifying said list of shows - it should definitely include "A Walk > in the Woods", staring Alec Guinness, and another one (title uncertain) that > was a Sherlock Holmes play. > > Oh, and if, indeed, the easiest way to do this is just to grab some page > images from a few archived newspapers - please - that's really all I need. > I've got no problems with browsing through them myself. > > So... anyone out there willing and able to lend me a hand? Please? :-) > > Ben -- Ben Cohen ben at tmk.com Green Brook, NJ USA -or- 40-35-10N/74-30-50W/160ft From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 9 19:09:01 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (thee Miktilian Agender) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:09:01 -0600 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: <52cf1735.08d1e00a.42eb.1d0eSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 1/9/14, mary sullivan wrote: > I've heard of the series UFo, is this a movie, we were wondering, we'll see > if it's available on the net, for free, of course. Mike, Would you call me > tomorrow morning? It would be nice to talk, and if I'm sleeping, wasting > time), I can't do that? Sorry to go off track. > > Mary I want copies of that SOOOOOO bad. i neveer knew until they other day that the aliens were purely stolen body parts! This could be Tim's big chance!! and dear THoBS (hehehe), if his name woukld have beeN ANYTHING ELSE!!!! who am I supposed to call when I am up terrified in the daed of night. is this right?? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 9 21:00:02 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mikEnki) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 20:00:02 -0600 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: since Mary did such a superb "save" in dealing with the zit (me), I figured I better come off this link for the righteous people, however strayed it is. http://ufoseries.com/ I figured this topic/show is pretty BOC, in it's own way back to my terrifying life's work On 1/9/14, thee Miktilian Agender wrote: > On 1/9/14, mary sullivan wrote: >> I've heard of the series UFo, is this a movie, we were wondering, we'll >> see >> if it's available on the net, for free, of course. Mike, Would you call >> me >> tomorrow morning? It would be nice to talk, and if I'm sleeping, wasting >> time), I can't do that? Sorry to go off track. >> >> Mary > > I want copies of that SOOOOOO bad. > i neveer knew until they other day that the aliens were purely stolen > body parts! > This could be Tim's big chance!! > > and dear THoBS (hehehe), if his name woukld have beeN ANYTHING ELSE!!!! > > who am I supposed to call when I am up terrified in the daed of night. > is this right?? > From ben at TMK.COM Fri Jan 10 12:57:30 2014 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:57:30 -0500 Subject: OFF: A request for some UK library research assistance In-Reply-To: <20140109220740.GA57926@gate.tmk.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 05:07:40PM -0500, Ben Cohen wrote: > "Bump" ... just to remind anyone who needed to wait until after the New Year. > > >From my side, I contacted someone at the Museum of London. A librarian > responded saying she couldn't help and suggested contacting someone at the > Theatre Museum at the Victoria and Albert Museum (and gave me contact info). > I've done so (just sent an email off a short while ago), and so I'm hoping > that will give me something. > > But, as I say - any other assistance is, of course, appreciated. :-) Oh, and to let everyone know - it turns out that I *did* get the information I needed from the Theatre Museum ... 3 pages of rather small text with all of the performances that were on stage in November and December of '88, so I now have a lot of additional research to pursue, but I've got all the information that I needed. Thanks, again - for everyone who gave me suggestions and who were looking to assist me! Ben From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Jan 10 14:43:20 2014 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:43:20 -0800 Subject: Knights of Space Message-ID: I spotted a used copy of Hawkwind's "Knights of Space" today. Does anyone recommend it? Selling for $8.99 IIRC. Gary From martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM Fri Jan 10 20:33:52 2014 From: martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM (martyn white) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:33:52 -0800 Subject: HW: Butlin's LIVE MUSIC WEEKENDS Message-ID: Saw this online: Found an interesting advert in the Daily Mirror under a banner headline, "Butlin's LIVE MUSIC WEEKENDS". It then shows what's on at their camps. The first one interested me 'GIANTS OF ROCK' Fri 7-Mon 10 February 2014 Butlin's Minehead Resort - Blue Oyster Cult, Uriah Heep, Wilko Johnson + Molly Hatchet, Hawkwind, Big Country, Sweet plus many more. 3 night breaks from ?99.99 per person see bigweekends.com for full line up. Other weekends are time specific 90's, 80's 70's before the SOUL WEEKEND. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 10 20:43:58 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (CAKE for Mary) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 19:43:58 -0600 Subject: OFF: Sci-Fi movies (Nightfall...) In-Reply-To: <52cf1735.08d1e00a.42eb.1d0eSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 1/9/14, mary sullivan wrote: Mike, Would you call me > tomorrow morning? It would be nice to talk, and if I'm sleeping, wasting > time), I can't do that? Sorry to go off track. I hope she likes CAKE lol x3 youtube link below http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgfAf04tCC8 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 10 22:51:07 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (CAKE for Mary) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:51:07 -0600 Subject: HW: Butlin's LIVE MUSIC WEEKENDS + SR "recital" Message-ID: On the off chance of being useful, is there anyone here not aware of the Hawkwind Space Ritual "recitial" that is forthcoming, plus, I think a special all-day type practice-run in Devon the previous day. (trying things out), or something like that. let me know if info needed from me. From richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM Sat Jan 11 05:25:03 2014 From: richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:25:03 +0000 Subject: HW: Butlin's LIVE MUSIC WEEKENDS In-Reply-To: <1389404032.74226.YahooMailNeo@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I love the idea of Blue Oyster Cult being labelled as "Giants of Rock". :-) If you can get the price down to ?99, you'll be doing well... Would love to go, but funds preclude. :-( Cheers, Rich. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 1:33 AM, martyn white wrote: > Saw this online: > > Found an interesting advert in the Daily Mirror under a banner headline, > "Butlin's LIVE MUSIC WEEKENDS". It then shows what's on at their camps. The > first one interested me 'GIANTS OF ROCK' Fri 7-Mon 10 February 2014 > Butlin's Minehead Resort - Blue Oyster Cult, Uriah Heep, Wilko Johnson + > Molly Hatchet, Hawkwind, Big Country, Sweet plus many more. > > 3 > night breaks from ?99.99 per person see bigweekends.com for full line > up. Other weekends are time specific 90's, 80's 70's before the SOUL > WEEKEND. > From kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK Sat Jan 11 09:10:52 2014 From: kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK (Ralph) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:10:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Butlin's LIVE MUSIC WEEKENDS Message-ID: Just noticed if you buy online, you can get 3.46% cashback: http://www.topcashback.co.uk/butlins-live-music-weekends/ ...every little helps.... From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Jan 11 12:14:26 2014 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 12:14:26 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #324). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #324) Alan Davey - "Goodbye Death Valley" (from Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra Vol. 2) Alan Davey - "49'ers" (from Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra Vol. 2) Lunarmare - "Rings Of Saturn" (from Lunarmare) Don Campau - "Tangiers" (from Just Passing Through) Manikin Timeshark - "Psychospasms" (from A Trick In Time) The Cosmic Arc - "Feed Your Head" (from Feed Your Head) The Cosmic Garden - "Where Have All The Flowergirls Gone" (from Sun Secrets) Claudio Cataldi - "Nowadays" (from Homing Season) Howl in the Typewriter - "Memory" (from Godspunk Vol. 13) John Tree's Blissed-Up Rework - "Not Any More (feat. The KBC)" (from Godspunk Vol. 13) Outer Temple - "Into The Blackness" (from Outer Temple) Bag: Theory - "Link Floyd" (from Tap Dancing in a Mine Field) The Longtails - "Smoke Rings" (from The Longtails: 1980-81) Nifty Eagu + The Glo-Pilots - "Second Vision" (from Glo-Balisation) Papir - "IIII.II" (from IIII) Papir - "III.IIIII" (from III) http://Aural-Innovations.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 12 13:14:01 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Mike c) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:14:01 -0600 Subject: 2 hours until Dave speaks radio 6 Message-ID: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03prbcf From steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jan 12 18:26:44 2014 From: steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 18:26:44 -0500 Subject: a couple of recent Space Rock Videos wot I hav dun In-Reply-To: <1389404032.74226.YahooMailNeo@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Alright, boys and girls, I've been working on videos for a band called Poppyseed, think maybe a slightlier poppier Hawkwind, a couple are now outand I think its very safe to say they are space rock...... Hope u like them they blend (these two) old archival footage with my own hand painted gel projections (general chaos visuals)I put quite a bit of work into them, and its good work from the band IMHO http://www.frequency.com/video/poppy-seed-love-explosion-melt-away/143118213/-/5-4343 andhttp://www.frequency.com/topic/poppy+seed?cid=5-116941 Cheers, Steve Lindsey From steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jan 12 18:44:06 2014 From: steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 18:44:06 -0500 Subject: a couple of recent Space Rock Videos wot I hav dun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sorry second one should have been http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEjMAst-Wl0 > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 18:26:44 -0500 > From: steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM > Subject: a couple of recent Space Rock Videos wot I hav dun > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Alright, boys and girls, > I've been working on videos for a band called Poppyseed, think maybe a slightlier poppier Hawkwind, a couple are now outand I think its very safe to say they are space rock...... > Hope u like them they blend (these two) old archival footage with my own hand painted gel projections (general chaos visuals)I put quite a bit of work into them, and its good work from the band IMHO > http://www.frequency.com/video/poppy-seed-love-explosion-melt-away/143118213/-/5-4343 > andhttp://www.frequency.com/topic/poppy+seed?cid=5-116941 > Cheers, > Steve Lindsey From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Mon Jan 13 05:11:47 2014 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 05:11:47 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Christian's FM99,3 Radiorakel Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com I've just uploaded a new show from Christian's FM99,3 Radiorakel (show #21). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Christian's FM99,3 Radiorakel: (show #324): SPACE ROCK SPECIAL WITH ARCHITECTURAL METAPHOR AND VARIOUS NEW MUSIC (Originally broadcast November 23, 2013) Nik Turner - "Fallen Angel STS-51-L" (from Space Gypsy, 2013) Architectural Metaphor - "Golden Void" (from Creature Of The Velvet Void, 1997) Architectural Metaphor - "We've Come For Your Children" (from Odysseum Galacti, 1995) Architectural Metaphor - "On The Run" (from Other Music, 2004) Architectural Metaphor - "In Every Dreamhome A Heartache" (from Everything You Know Is Wrong, 2013) Legendary Pink Dots - " A Star Is Born" (from The Gethsemane Option, 2013) Oresund Space Collective - "Walking On Clouds" (Organic Earthly Floatation, 2013) http://Aural-Innovations.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 16 22:13:52 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Mike c) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:13:52 -0600 Subject: OFF: FWD Mary Sullivan Message-ID: When I spoke to Mary today she asked me to pass on that her computer has gone down again. She'll be back when it is repaired. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 17 00:09:10 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Mike c) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:09:10 -0600 Subject: HW product information (what the heck) Message-ID: forthcoming info thanks to cross-forum pollination (Dell1972) Hawkwind-The Flicknife Years --5 Cd clamshell box Covering the following releases HAWKWIND RELEASES ISSUED ON THE FLICKNIFE LABEL BETWEEN 1981 & 1988 FEATURES THE ALBUMS ?FRIENDS & RELATIONS?, ?ZONES?, ?FRIENDS & RELATIONS (TWICE UPON A TIME)?, ?FRIENDS & RELATIONS VOLUME THREE? and ?OUT & INTAKE? PLUS ELEVEN BONUS TRACKS INCLUDES ILLUSTRATED BOOKLET WITH ESSAY and 5 CDs IN SLIPCASED ARTWORK to be released by Cherry Red/Atomhenge From nathan.gilbert at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 17 09:25:20 2014 From: nathan.gilbert at GMAIL.COM (Nathan Gilbert) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:25:20 -0700 Subject: HW product information (what the heck) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice. When is it coming out? On Jan 16, 2014 10:11 PM, "Mike c" wrote: > forthcoming > > > info thanks to cross-forum pollination (Dell1972) > > > > Hawkwind-The Flicknife Years --5 Cd clamshell box > > Covering the following releases > HAWKWIND RELEASES ISSUED ON THE FLICKNIFE LABEL BETWEEN 1981 & 1988 > FEATURES THE ALBUMS ?FRIENDS & RELATIONS?, ?ZONES?, ?FRIENDS & > RELATIONS (TWICE UPON A TIME)?, ?FRIENDS & RELATIONS VOLUME THREE? and > ?OUT & INTAKE? PLUS ELEVEN BONUS TRACKS > INCLUDES ILLUSTRATED BOOKLET WITH ESSAY and 5 CDs IN SLIPCASED ARTWORK > > to be released by Cherry Red/Atomhenge > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 17 10:23:45 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Mike c) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:23:45 -0600 Subject: HW product information (what the heck) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/17/14, Nathan Gilbert wrote: > Nice. When is it coming out? March 31st answerr in nick of time powered by BRIAN TAWN INSIDE From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sat Jan 18 22:32:34 2014 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:32:34 +0800 Subject: HW product information (what the heck) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: yes nice On 17 January 2014 23:23, Mike c wrote: > On 1/17/14, Nathan Gilbert wrote: > > Nice. When is it coming out? > > > March 31st > > answerr in nick of time powered by BRIAN TAWN INSIDE > From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sun Jan 19 18:52:15 2014 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:52:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: Farflung In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anyone who likes Farflung. There's some really nice songs on bandcamp. https://blackrainbows.bandcamp.com/album/farflung-black-rainbows-split From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 19 19:09:26 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Mike c) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:09:26 -0600 Subject: OFF: Farflung In-Reply-To: <52DC652F.5090004@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: thanks for this, even though I likely can't use it due to mental constraints at the root. must fling it out On 1/19/14, Jerry G wrote: > Anyone who likes Farflung. There's some really nice songs on bandcamp. > > https://blackrainbows.bandcamp.com/album/farflung-black-rainbows-split > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 19 19:26:34 2014 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:26:34 +0800 Subject: OFF: Farflung In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Then it will be far flung? Thanks for the link. On 20 January 2014 08:09, Mike c wrote: > thanks for this, even though I likely can't use it due to mental > constraints at the root. > > must fling it out > > On 1/19/14, Jerry G wrote: > > Anyone who likes Farflung. There's some really nice songs on bandcamp. > > > > https://blackrainbows.bandcamp.com/album/farflung-black-rainbows-split > > > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jan 20 07:23:16 2014 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:23:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: Farflung In-Reply-To: <52DC652F.5090004@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: On 19 Jan 2014, at 18:52 , Jerry G wrote: > Anyone who likes Farflung. There's some really nice songs on bandcamp. > https://blackrainbows.bandcamp.com/album/farflung-black-rainbows-split Good find! :) I quite like Farflung, especially when they get all riffy and blangoid. Fuzz on! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jan 22 15:24:10 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:24:10 -0500 Subject: FWD Mary Sullivan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The unit's working, I've been here all along. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike c Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: OFF: FWD Mary Sullivan When I spoke to Mary today she asked me to pass on that her computer has gone down again. She'll be back when it is repaired. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jan 22 15:44:34 2014 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Mike c) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:44:34 -0600 Subject: FWD Mary Sullivan In-Reply-To: <52e02962.883ee50a.4b21.fffff3ffSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com> Message-ID: On 1/22/14, mary sullivan wrote: > The unit's working, I've been here all along. How'd you like the CAKE I baked?? From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jan 22 17:51:32 2014 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary sullivan) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:51:32 -0500 Subject: FWD Mary Sullivan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I get it, did someone leave it out in the rain to add to the misfortune, too? Thanks again, for your help, on this, and through life's highs and lows, and everything in between. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike c Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:45 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: FWD Mary Sullivan On 1/22/14, mary sullivan wrote: > The unit's working, I've been here all along. How'd you like the CAKE I baked?? From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jan 26 09:04:50 2014 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:04:50 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #325). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #325) Yuri Gagarin ? ?Sonic Invasion 2910? (from Yuri Gagarin) Polska Radio One ? ?To The Delta Of Aquarius? (from Cosmos Inside) Grey Mouse ? ?Ultima Thule? (from Trip) Lunarmare ? ?Pale Blue Dot? (from Lunarmare) UNIT ? ?A Song for Paul Novak? (from The Colours Of Life) Ra Can Row ? ?Things Beyond Our Control? (from Ra Can Row) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Don Schott ? ?20,000 Floating Baby Hueys (In Parade)? (from Let?s Go Play Outside) Don Schott ? ?Hopi in the Snow? (from Let?s Go Play Outside) Howl in the Typewriter - "Derek?s Briefcase" (from Godspunk Vol. 13) Howling Larsons ? ?Cold Winter Sun? (from Fool Of Sound And Furry) Mac of BIOnight ? ?Suspended? (from Dimmig V?g) Black Space Riders ? ?Give Gravitation To The People? (from D:REI) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Eddie Brnabic & The Cosmic Fellowship ? ?Still Tripping Through Time? (from Subtle Realms) The Bob Lennon Experience ? ?Economy Class Thinking? (from Exploring Your Diseased Mind) Luna Shark ? ?Magnetosphere? (from Solar Storms) http://Aural-Innovations.com From M.Holmes at ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 30 07:22:33 2014 From: M.Holmes at ED.AC.UK (Michael Holmes) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 12:22:33 +0000 Subject: test message A Message-ID: teasting... -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From steve.bishop at DB.COM Thu Jan 30 07:25:55 2014 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 12:25:55 +0000 Subject: test message A In-Reply-To: <52EA4409.8020709@ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: as opposed to testing ?! or is it a teaser test ?! BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote on 30/01/2014 12:22:33: > From: > > Michael Holmes > > To: > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET, > > Date: > > 30/01/2014 12:24 > > Subject: > > test message A > > teasting... > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional corporate and regulatory EU disclosures and to http://www.db.com/unitedkingdom/content/privacy.htm for information about privacy. From ben at TMK.COM Thu Jan 30 07:48:56 2014 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 07:48:56 -0500 Subject: test message A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No, no... it's a test feast. "... had this been an actual feast, you would have been seated and served food and beverages ..." On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:25:55PM +0000, Steve Bishop wrote: > as opposed to testing ?! or is it a teaser test ?! > > > BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote on > 30/01/2014 12:22:33: > > > From: > > > > Michael Holmes > > > > To: > > > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET, > > > > Date: > > > > 30/01/2014 12:24 > > > > Subject: > > > > test message A > > > > teasting... > > > > -- > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > --- > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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