From martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM Wed Oct 2 01:49:50 2013 From: martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM (martyn white) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 22:49:50 -0700 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show In-Reply-To: <001901cebdb6$d848a4a0$88d9ede0$@aural-innovations.com> Message-ID: Cool! ________________________________ From: Jerry Kranitz To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:27 AM Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show http://Aural-Innovations.com I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #316). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html. REVIEWS: Note that new reviews are posted regular to? our Reviews page at: http://aural-innovations.com/blog/ Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #316) Jay Tausig - "Aimed At The Sky" (from Sagittarius: The Higher Mind) UNIT - "Urban Guerilla" (from forthcoming Rock In Opposition: Phase 5) Spids Nogenhat - "Mere Lys" (from Kommer Med Fred) Mac of BIOnight - "Astounding Stories" (from The Eleventh Planet) Paradise9 - "Distant Dreams" (from Take Me To The Future) Nik Turner - "Anti-Matter" (from Space Gypsy) Mushroom - "The Reeperbahn" (from Live at the Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, 5-24-98) Kevin Ayers with Mushroom - "Decadence" (from Live at the Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, 5-24-98) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Permanent Clear Light - "Higher Than The Sun" (from Beyond These Things) Permanent Clear Light - "25 German Boy Scouts" (from Fruits De Mer/Regal Crabomophone Annual 2012) Permanent Clear Light - "Me Kaymme Joulun Viettohon" (from A Phase We've Been Through) Permanent Clear Light - "Afterwards" (from Fruits de Mer single) Permanent Clear Light - "Tuitsie Fruitsie Ice-Cream Man (Madman Blues)" (from The Crabs Sell Out) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Permanent Clear Light - "Cymbaline" (from Keep Off The Grass) Permanent Clear Light - "In The City" (from A Phase We're Going Through) Permanent Clear Light - "Wherewithal" (from Fruits de Mer Annual 2011) http://Aural-Innovations.com From steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Oct 4 22:22:26 2013 From: steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 22:22:26 -0400 Subject: Seems like tour is postphoned until March In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry, maybe you know, if not I know this is a probably a bodyblow as it was to me, but haven't seen it mentioned here yet so better to know than not.... I think, as, of 6pm or so today (I've receieved cancellation notices from the ticket agencies)that tour seems to be postphoned until March I assume because Daves been sick as of a week or so ago,,,, Oh well.... From martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM Fri Oct 4 22:36:02 2013 From: martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM (martyn white) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:36:02 -0700 Subject: Seems like tour is postphoned until March In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >From Hawkwind FB page, posted 4 hours ago: As many of you will now be aware, Dave was taken ill a couple of weeks ago. Doctors have confirmed that his condition is stress related, aggravated by the trademark dispute in the United States which could result in years of litigation. After enduring a series of tests, Dave has now been advised that it could be dangerous to his health to embark on a grueling 14,000 mile tour at this time. After much discussion about possible ways forward, the members of the band have reluctantly decided that it is necessary to reschedule the dates to March 2014, rather than putting Dave's health at unnecessary risk. (New dates for each venue will be announced next week) Whilst we understand that this will come as a big disappointment to those of you who have booked tickets, as it does to ourselves, we are equally sure that you will understand health concerns must take priority. Totally gutted ________________________________ From: Stephen Lindsey To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 10:22 PM Subject: Seems like tour is postphoned until March Sorry, maybe you know, if not I know this is a probably a bodyblow as it was to me, but haven't seen it mentioned here yet so better to know than not.... I think, as, of 6pm or so today (I've receieved cancellation notices from the ticket agencies)that tour seems to be postphoned until March I assume because Daves been sick as of a week or so ago,,,, Oh well.... ??? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Oct 4 22:36:24 2013 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 22:36:24 -0400 Subject: Seems like tour is postphoned until March In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > Sorry, > maybe you know, if not I know this is a probably a bodyblow as it was to me, but haven't seen it mentioned here yet so better to know than not.... > I think, as, of 6pm or so today (I've receieved cancellation notices from the ticket agencies)that tour seems to be postphoned until March > I assume because Daves been sick as of a week or so ago,,,, > Oh well.... This is on the hawkwind.com Web site: ===== 05.10.13 - USA tour postponement, please read As many of you will now be aware Dave was taken ill a couple of weeks ago. Doctors have confirmed that his condition is stress related, aggravated by the trademark dispute in the United States which could result in years of litigation. After enduring a series of tests, Dave has been advised that it could be dangerous to his health to embark on a gruelling 14,000 mile tour at this time. After much discussion about possible ways forward, the members of the band have reluctantly decided that it is necessary to reschedule the dates to March 2014, rather than put Dave's health at unnecessary risk. (New dates for each venue will be announced next week) Whilst we understand this will come as a big disappointment to those of you who have booked tickets, as it does to ourselves, we are equally sure that you will understand health concerns must take priority. ===== :-( Get well soon, Dave! Cheers, Paul. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Oct 4 22:37:42 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 21:37:42 -0500 Subject: Seems like tour is postphoned until March In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yep, you got it correct Too much stress on Dave at moment. On 10/4/13, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > Sorry, > maybe you know, if not I know this is a probably a bodyblow as it was to me, > but haven't seen it mentioned here yet so better to know than not.... > I think, as, of 6pm or so today (I've receieved cancellation notices from > the ticket agencies)that tour seems to be postphoned until March > I assume because Daves been sick as of a week or so ago,,,, > Oh well.... From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 7 01:16:59 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:16:59 +0800 Subject: Seems like tour is postphoned until March In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes And Hawkwind Members Guest On William Shatner's Upcoming Prog Rock Album [image: Yes And Hawkwind Members Guest On William Shatner's Upcoming Prog Rock Album] 10/6/2013 11:50 AM ET Members of *Yes* and *Hawkwind* will guest on an upcoming prog album from actor *William Shatner*. *Rick Wakeman*, Yes' former keyboardist plays on the LP, while *Billy Sherwood*, a multi-instrumentalist for the group, *produced and co-wrote it. Nik Turner of Hawkwind also found his way onto the disc.* "I've never adhered to the assumption that oil and water don't mix," said Wakeman of his contribution. "Stir them hard enough and add some other ingredients and they certainly will mix." Other artists featured on the album, dubbed *Ponder the Mystery*, include *Steve Vai*, *Al Di Meola*, *Robby Krieger* of the *Doors*, *Vince Gill*, *Mick Jones*,*George Duke*, *Dave Koz* and *Edgar Winter*. "Shatner is after all an enormously popular and celebrated icon of science-fiction fantasy, and no musical genre is as invested in, devoted to or driven by fantasy and the imaginative as progressive rock," said the actor's label of the release. *Ponder the Mystery* is due October 8. by RTT Staff Writer For comments and feedback: editorial at rttnews.com http://www.rttnews.com/2198565/yes-and-hawkwind-members-guest-on-william-shatner-s-upcoming-prog-rock-album.aspx?type=all ----------------------------------- ...the last Yes related 'stellar' effort was totally forgettable prog effort was so i don't have high hopes for this. It will be easily downloadable as is almost everything. "Nik Turner of Hawkwind....." What can you say? On 5 October 2013 10:37, mike c wrote: > Yep, you got it correct > Too much stress on Dave at moment. > > On 10/4/13, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > > Sorry, > > maybe you know, if not I know this is a probably a bodyblow as it was to > me, > > but haven't seen it mentioned here yet so better to know than not.... > > I think, as, of 6pm or so today (I've receieved cancellation notices from > > the ticket agencies)that tour seems to be postphoned until March > > I assume because Daves been sick as of a week or so ago,,,, > > Oh well.... > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 9 10:23:31 2013 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 15:23:31 +0100 Subject: Alien 4 B&W posters for sale Message-ID: Hi all, I'm having a clear out and have just come across 8 of these black and white promo posters. (image courtesy of the internet http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5397862121_414a495615_b.jpg ) They have been rolled not folded so no creases but may have a bit of edge damage. If anyone is interested (and seeing the prices recently on e-bay) I will sell them for ?7.50 including P&P in the UK. If anyone outside of the UK wants one I'll have to check the postage costs and get back to you. Please mail me off-line and I'll confirm my paypal address for you. Thanks Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From john.majka at GMAIL.COM Tue Oct 22 11:18:33 2013 From: john.majka at GMAIL.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:18:33 -0500 Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I realized today I haven't seen any BOC-L mail for a couple of weeks... Is everything still up and running or am I experiencing some email weirdness? I just saw Nik last night in Chicago by the way and it was delightful. There was a particularly stirring rendition of Children of the Sun, which was probably the high point. John Majka Sent from my iPhone From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Oct 22 11:22:50 2013 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 15:22:50 +0000 Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? In-Reply-To: <3EBBE8C5-7194-4664-9870-12809C85BE12@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's just been really, really quiet. Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:19 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? I realized today I haven't seen any BOC-L mail for a couple of weeks... Is everything still up and running or am I experiencing some email weirdness? I just saw Nik last night in Chicago by the way and it was delightful. There was a particularly stirring rendition of Children of the Sun, which was probably the high point. John Majka Sent from my iPhone From kruch7 at COX.NET Tue Oct 22 11:22:35 2013 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Kenneth Ruch) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:22:35 -0400 Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? In-Reply-To: <595266768843801584@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: wow you are right it has been quiet Ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? http://answersfromthewizard.com/ http://ariochslair.com/ On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, John Majka wrote: > I realized today I haven't seen any BOC-L mail for a couple of weeks... > Is everything still up and running or am I experiencing some email > weirdness? > > I just saw Nik last night in Chicago by the way and it was delightful. > There was a particularly stirring rendition of Children of the Sun, which > was probably the high point. > > John Majka > > Sent from my iPhone > From kruch7 at COX.NET Tue Oct 22 11:26:40 2013 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Kenneth Ruch) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:26:40 -0400 Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? In-Reply-To: <8874722697303289274@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Some one must be plotting Ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? http://answersfromthewizard.com/ http://ariochslair.com/ On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Arin Komins wrote: > It's just been really, really quiet. > > Thanks, > > Arin > -- > Arin Komins > akomins at uchicago.edu > 773-834-4087 (work) > 773-401-8131 (cell) > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On Behalf Of John Majka > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:19 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? > > I realized today I haven't seen any BOC-L mail for a couple of weeks... > Is everything still up and running or am I experiencing some email > weirdness? > > I just saw Nik last night in Chicago by the way and it was delightful. > There was a particularly stirring rendition of Children of the Sun, which > was probably the high point. > > John Majka > > Sent from my iPhone > From steve.bishop at DB.COM Tue Oct 22 11:38:52 2013 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:38:52 +0100 Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Been plenty of comment on the Facebook HW site and on the Hawkwind Forum attached to Hawkwind.com ........... but as you say, the BOC-L list has been very quiet ... BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote on 22/10/2013 16:22:35: > From: > > Kenneth Ruch > > To: > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET, > > Date: > > 22/10/2013 16:33 > > Subject: > > Re: Is the list up and running or is it just me? > > wow you are right it has been quiet > Ken > > Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics > Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you > > Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour > > WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? > http://answersfromthewizard.com/ > http://ariochslair.com/ > > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, John Majka wrote: > > > I realized today I haven't seen any BOC-L mail for a couple of weeks... > > Is everything still up and running or am I experiencing some email > > weirdness? > > > > I just saw Nik last night in Chicago by the way and it was delightful. > > There was a particularly stirring rendition of Children of the Sun, which > > was probably the high point. > > > > John Majka > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional corporate and regulatory EU disclosures and to http://www.db.com/unitedkingdom/content/privacy.htm for information about privacy. From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 11:39:13 2013 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:39:13 +0100 Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? Message-ID: We're all exhausted after the massive "Space Gypsy" thread on the Yahoo list :-) JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: 22 October 2013 16:23 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Is the list up and running or is it just me? It's just been really, really quiet. Thanks, Arin -- Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu 773-834-4087 (work) 773-401-8131 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:19 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Is the list up and running or is it just me? I realized today I haven't seen any BOC-L mail for a couple of weeks... Is everything still up and running or am I experiencing some email weirdness? I just saw Nik last night in Chicago by the way and it was delightful. There was a particularly stirring rendition of Children of the Sun, which was probably the high point. John Majka Sent from my iPhone From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Oct 22 13:47:12 2013 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:47:12 -0400 Subject: BOC: Did anyone know about this Imaginos remix? Message-ID: Stumbled across this: http://www.realgonemusic.com/news/2013/3/14/blue-oyster-cult.html "[...] Our Real Gone reissue features a new 2012 remix and new notes by B?C expert Scott Schinder, along with the original album and inner sleeve art." second question: has anyone heard this and care to comment on its quality, compared to the boxed set, the american recordings one a few years ago, and the original cd? j. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Is the list up and running or is it just me? Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:22:35 -0400 From: Kenneth Ruch To: BOC-L at listserv.ispnetinc.net Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wow you are right it has been quiet Ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? http://answersfromthewizard.com/ http://ariochslair.com/ On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:18 AM, John Majka wrote: > I realized today I haven't seen any BOC-L mail for a couple of weeks... > Is everything still up and running or am I experiencing some email > weirdness? > > I just saw Nik last night in Chicago by the way and it was delightful. > There was a particularly stirring rendition of Children of the Sun, which > was probably the high point. > > John Majka > > Sent from my iPhone > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Oct 22 16:15:20 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 15:15:20 -0500 Subject: BOC: Did anyone know about this Imaginos remix? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 22 Oct 2013, at 12:47 , Jason Scruton wrote: > > Stumbled across this: > http://www.realgonemusic.com/news/2013/3/14/blue-oyster-cult.html > "[...] Our Real Gone reissue features a new 2012 remix and new notes by > B?C expert Scott Schinder, along with the original album and inner sleeve > art." > second question: has anyone heard this and care to comment on its quality, > compared to the boxed set, the american recordings one a few years ago, and > the original cd? I nearly had a heart attack -- but then I checked the Web page, and I see that any instance of the word "remix" has now been replaced by "remaster". So I would _guess_ this is just the same remaster that appeared in the recent "big box o' B?C" release. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK Sat Oct 26 08:29:16 2013 From: kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK (Ralph) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 08:29:16 -0400 Subject: Boc: Don't Fear The Banksy Message-ID: http://nypost.com/2013/10/26/banksy-creeps-into-noho-with-grim-reaper/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Oct 27 12:45:42 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Mike c) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:45:42 -0500 Subject: FWD message from Marion Lloyd Langton re the HW vs Nik fiasco Message-ID: Dear Hawkwind friends.. Marion LL here. I would like to clarify that I receive no royalties whatsoever from the sale of my Huw's music by Cleopatra, because Huw and I, knowing that Huw had a very limited time left on this earth, agreed to sign a buy out deal so that Huw could get some benefit from his works while he was still alive.. (However, Cleopatra are selling Huw T/shirts on their website with no permission from me and I receive nothing from these sales.) I totally support Dave and Hawkwind. I have myself written a heartfelt letter to Brian Perera from Cleopatra Records, who is backing Nik in his despicable actions....He did not even give me the courtesy of a reply and although I once thought of him as a friend, he has proved otherwise. As he has not acknowledged my letter privately, I would like to share it with him again, publically... Dear Brian, I wrote to you in January about this but I still cannot believe you are actually going ahead with patenting the name of Hawkwind in the USA on behalf of Nik Turner. If you win you will be the man who single handedly destroyed the name of Hawkwind.. But you will not destroy Dave who is the genius behind it. There is only one leader of Hawkwind Dave Brock. He has led it for 44 years and is the true spirit of Hawkwind. Nik is but a former shadow and will not carry it nor has he earned it. Dave has held the Hawkwind gauntlet through many years of hard work and tenacity aided by his wife Kris and the many variations of the band. Latterly the Hawkwind members are all very long standing each deserving the name of Hawkwind.. I am very saddened by your actions in USA. You should have been behind them. Dave has recently been given another award i.e. ?Life Time Achievement? in UK and has more awards to come later this year. Dave has earned every award he has ever been given. Why because he is Hawkwind. If Huw were here when Dave received this last award he would have applauded Dave as I am sure he does in Heaven. Huw always loved and respected Dave not just because of his prowess that is unique but because of the man he is. Huw loved Dave and Kris to the end (as I do) and in the end they returned that love to Huw sevenfold. You see the spirit within us all is intangible but shines through when it is pure and honest. That pureness is only gained through truth. Your love of music has bought you so much success. But these actions will taint and mar everything you do in the future. We all come to this earth naked and leave naked. It is what we do while we are here that marks us. What you are doing is unjust and if you succeed you will destroy the careers of long standing members of Hawkwind. You will also lose the respect of thousands of fans. There is a proverb in the Old Testament ?What profit a man if he gains the world and loses his soul?. Integrity is worth more than gold. Yours will be an empty victory! I am appealing to you Brian to think deeply and stop this before it is too late! Sincerely, Marion To be perfectly frank I am absolutely heartbroken by all of this. I cannot believe that Brian, Cleopatra and Nik Turner could be so proactive in trying to destroy Hawkwind... If Huw was alive he would be sick to the stomach...it is morally and legally wrong.. Marion From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Sun Oct 27 13:43:38 2013 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:43:38 +0000 Subject: FWD message from Marion Lloyd Langton re the HW vs Nik fiasco In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well said :) On 27/10/2013 16:45, Mike c wrote: > Dear Hawkwind friends.. > > Marion LL here. I would like to clarify that I receive no royalties > whatsoever from the sale of my Huw's music by Cleopatra, because Huw > and I, knowing that Huw had a very limited time left on this earth, > agreed to sign a buy out deal so that Huw could get some benefit from > his works while he was still alive.. (However, Cleopatra are selling > Huw T/shirts on their website with no permission from me and I receive > nothing from these sales.) > > I totally support Dave and Hawkwind. I have myself written a heartfelt > letter to Brian Perera from Cleopatra Records, who is backing Nik in > his despicable actions....He did not even give me the courtesy of a > reply and although I once thought of him as a friend, he has proved > otherwise. > > As he has not acknowledged my letter privately, I would like to share > it with him again, publically... > > Dear Brian, > I wrote to you in January about this but I still cannot believe you > are actually going ahead with patenting the name of Hawkwind in the > USA on behalf of Nik Turner. If you win you will be the man who single > handedly destroyed the name of Hawkwind.. But you will not destroy > Dave who is the genius behind it. > There is only one leader of Hawkwind Dave Brock. He has led it for 44 > years and is the true spirit of Hawkwind. Nik is but a former shadow > and will not carry it nor has he earned it. Dave has held the Hawkwind > gauntlet through many years of hard work and tenacity aided by his > wife Kris and the many variations of the band. Latterly the Hawkwind > members are all very long standing each deserving the name of > Hawkwind.. > I am very saddened by your actions in USA. You should have been behind > them. Dave has recently been given another award i.e. ?Life Time > Achievement? in UK and has more awards to come later this year. Dave > has earned every award he has ever been given. Why because he is > Hawkwind. If Huw were here when Dave received this last award he would > have applauded Dave as I am sure he does in Heaven. Huw always loved > and respected Dave not just because of his prowess that is unique but > because of the man he is. Huw loved Dave and Kris to the end (as I do) > and in the end they returned that love to Huw sevenfold. You see the > spirit within us all is intangible but shines through when it is pure > and honest. That pureness is only gained through truth. > Your love of music has bought you so much success. But these actions > will taint and mar everything you do in the future. We all come to > this earth naked and leave naked. It is what we do while we are here > that marks us. What you are doing is unjust and if you succeed you > will destroy the careers of long standing members of Hawkwind. You > will also lose the respect of thousands of fans. > There is a proverb in the Old Testament ?What profit a man if he gains > the world and loses his soul?. Integrity is worth more than gold. > Yours will be an empty victory! > I am appealing to you Brian to think deeply and stop this before it is too late! > Sincerely, > Marion > > To be perfectly frank I am absolutely heartbroken by all of this. I > cannot believe that Brian, Cleopatra and Nik Turner could be so > proactive in trying to destroy Hawkwind... > If Huw was alive he would be sick to the stomach...it is morally and > legally wrong.. > Marion > -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." ? Frank Zappa From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Oct 27 16:12:11 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:12:11 +0800 Subject: FWD message from Marion Lloyd Langton re the HW vs Nik fiasco In-Reply-To: <526D50CA.3080202@darkstar.uk.net> Message-ID: Yes, well said. I said Cleopatra were dodgey! On 28 October 2013 01:43, Horse wrote: > Well said :) > > > > On 27/10/2013 16:45, Mike c wrote: > >> Dear Hawkwind friends.. >> >> Marion LL here. I would like to clarify that I receive no royalties >> whatsoever from the sale of my Huw's music by Cleopatra, because Huw >> and I, knowing that Huw had a very limited time left on this earth, >> agreed to sign a buy out deal so that Huw could get some benefit from >> his works while he was still alive.. (However, Cleopatra are selling >> Huw T/shirts on their website with no permission from me and I receive >> nothing from these sales.) >> >> I totally support Dave and Hawkwind. I have myself written a heartfelt >> letter to Brian Perera from Cleopatra Records, who is backing Nik in >> his despicable actions....He did not even give me the courtesy of a >> reply and although I once thought of him as a friend, he has proved >> otherwise. >> >> As he has not acknowledged my letter privately, I would like to share >> it with him again, publically... >> >> Dear Brian, >> I wrote to you in January about this but I still cannot believe you >> are actually going ahead with patenting the name of Hawkwind in the >> USA on behalf of Nik Turner. If you win you will be the man who single >> handedly destroyed the name of Hawkwind.. But you will not destroy >> Dave who is the genius behind it. >> There is only one leader of Hawkwind Dave Brock. He has led it for 44 >> years and is the true spirit of Hawkwind. Nik is but a former shadow >> and will not carry it nor has he earned it. Dave has held the Hawkwind >> gauntlet through many years of hard work and tenacity aided by his >> wife Kris and the many variations of the band. Latterly the Hawkwind >> members are all very long standing each deserving the name of >> Hawkwind.. >> I am very saddened by your actions in USA. You should have been behind >> them. Dave has recently been given another award i.e. ?Life Time >> Achievement? in UK and has more awards to come later this year. Dave >> has earned every award he has ever been given. Why because he is >> Hawkwind. If Huw were here when Dave received this last award he would >> have applauded Dave as I am sure he does in Heaven. Huw always loved >> and respected Dave not just because of his prowess that is unique but >> because of the man he is. Huw loved Dave and Kris to the end (as I do) >> and in the end they returned that love to Huw sevenfold. You see the >> spirit within us all is intangible but shines through when it is pure >> and honest. That pureness is only gained through truth. >> Your love of music has bought you so much success. But these actions >> will taint and mar everything you do in the future. We all come to >> this earth naked and leave naked. It is what we do while we are here >> that marks us. What you are doing is unjust and if you succeed you >> will destroy the careers of long standing members of Hawkwind. You >> will also lose the respect of thousands of fans. >> There is a proverb in the Old Testament ?What profit a man if he gains >> the world and loses his soul?. Integrity is worth more than gold. >> Yours will be an empty victory! >> I am appealing to you Brian to think deeply and stop this before it is >> too late! >> Sincerely, >> Marion >> >> To be perfectly frank I am absolutely heartbroken by all of this. I >> cannot believe that Brian, Cleopatra and Nik Turner could be so >> proactive in trying to destroy Hawkwind... >> If Huw was alive he would be sick to the stomach...it is morally and >> legally wrong.. >> Marion >> >> > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > ? Frank Zappa > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sun Oct 27 20:52:11 2013 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (Gary Shindler) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:52:11 -0500 Subject: FWD message from Marion Lloyd Langton re the HW vs Nik fiasco In-Reply-To: Message-ID: They have a Hawkwind shirt for sale currently on Cleopatra's web page. > On Oct 27, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Yes, well said. I said Cleopatra were dodgey! > > > > >> On 28 October 2013 01:43, Horse wrote: >> >> Well said :) >> >> >> >>> On 27/10/2013 16:45, Mike c wrote: >>> >>> Dear Hawkwind friends.. >>> >>> Marion LL here. I would like to clarify that I receive no royalties >>> whatsoever from the sale of my Huw's music by Cleopatra, because Huw >>> and I, knowing that Huw had a very limited time left on this earth, >>> agreed to sign a buy out deal so that Huw could get some benefit from >>> his works while he was still alive.. (However, Cleopatra are selling >>> Huw T/shirts on their website with no permission from me and I receive >>> nothing from these sales.) >>> >>> I totally support Dave and Hawkwind. I have myself written a heartfelt >>> letter to Brian Perera from Cleopatra Records, who is backing Nik in >>> his despicable actions....He did not even give me the courtesy of a >>> reply and although I once thought of him as a friend, he has proved >>> otherwise. >>> >>> As he has not acknowledged my letter privately, I would like to share >>> it with him again, publically... >>> >>> Dear Brian, >>> I wrote to you in January about this but I still cannot believe you >>> are actually going ahead with patenting the name of Hawkwind in the >>> USA on behalf of Nik Turner. If you win you will be the man who single >>> handedly destroyed the name of Hawkwind.. But you will not destroy >>> Dave who is the genius behind it. >>> There is only one leader of Hawkwind Dave Brock. He has led it for 44 >>> years and is the true spirit of Hawkwind. Nik is but a former shadow >>> and will not carry it nor has he earned it. Dave has held the Hawkwind >>> gauntlet through many years of hard work and tenacity aided by his >>> wife Kris and the many variations of the band. Latterly the Hawkwind >>> members are all very long standing each deserving the name of >>> Hawkwind.. >>> I am very saddened by your actions in USA. You should have been behind >>> them. Dave has recently been given another award i.e. ?Life Time >>> Achievement? in UK and has more awards to come later this year. Dave >>> has earned every award he has ever been given. Why because he is >>> Hawkwind. If Huw were here when Dave received this last award he would >>> have applauded Dave as I am sure he does in Heaven. Huw always loved >>> and respected Dave not just because of his prowess that is unique but >>> because of the man he is. Huw loved Dave and Kris to the end (as I do) >>> and in the end they returned that love to Huw sevenfold. You see the >>> spirit within us all is intangible but shines through when it is pure >>> and honest. That pureness is only gained through truth. >>> Your love of music has bought you so much success. But these actions >>> will taint and mar everything you do in the future. We all come to >>> this earth naked and leave naked. It is what we do while we are here >>> that marks us. What you are doing is unjust and if you succeed you >>> will destroy the careers of long standing members of Hawkwind. You >>> will also lose the respect of thousands of fans. >>> There is a proverb in the Old Testament ?What profit a man if he gains >>> the world and loses his soul?. Integrity is worth more than gold. >>> Yours will be an empty victory! >>> I am appealing to you Brian to think deeply and stop this before it is >>> too late! >>> Sincerely, >>> Marion >>> >>> To be perfectly frank I am absolutely heartbroken by all of this. I >>> cannot believe that Brian, Cleopatra and Nik Turner could be so >>> proactive in trying to destroy Hawkwind... >>> If Huw was alive he would be sick to the stomach...it is morally and >>> legally wrong.. >>> Marion >> -- >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production >> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> ? Frank Zappa >> From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Oct 27 23:51:15 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:51:15 +0800 Subject: FWD message from Marion Lloyd Langton re the HW vs Nik fiasco In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://chicagoist.com/2013/10/23/nik_turners_hawkwind_electrifies_re_1.php The show was originally booked as "Nik Turner's Space Ritual," but was > rechristened to "Nik Turner's Hawkwind" after Hawkwind announced the > postponement of its first U.S. tour in nearly 20 years. Turner filed a > petition with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to register "Nik > Turner's Hawkwind" in November 2012, and it was recently approved. > Brock cited "stress-related illness" over the trademark issue as the main > reason for postponing the tour. Turner addressed the crowd at the end of > the set to give his take on the issue. > "I never want to make anyone sick," he said. "I want to heal people." > He also added speculation sparked by rumor by saying the U.S. State > Department had denied Brock's work visa, which is the real reason Hawkwind > postponed its tour, "but I don't want to gossip," he insisted while > standing on the stage. > The crowd went wild when Turner added he'd "love to get together and play > with Dave again." After all, it's what many Hawkwind fans would fall over > each other to see. Make of this what you will.... On 28 October 2013 04:12, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Yes, well said. I said Cleopatra were dodgey! > > > > > On 28 October 2013 01:43, Horse wrote: > >> Well said :) >> >> >> >> On 27/10/2013 16:45, Mike c wrote: >> >>> Dear Hawkwind friends.. >>> >>> Marion LL here. I would like to clarify that I receive no royalties >>> whatsoever from the sale of my Huw's music by Cleopatra, because Huw >>> and I, knowing that Huw had a very limited time left on this earth, >>> agreed to sign a buy out deal so that Huw could get some benefit from >>> his works while he was still alive.. (However, Cleopatra are selling >>> Huw T/shirts on their website with no permission from me and I receive >>> nothing from these sales.) >>> >>> I totally support Dave and Hawkwind. I have myself written a heartfelt >>> letter to Brian Perera from Cleopatra Records, who is backing Nik in >>> his despicable actions....He did not even give me the courtesy of a >>> reply and although I once thought of him as a friend, he has proved >>> otherwise. >>> >>> As he has not acknowledged my letter privately, I would like to share >>> it with him again, publically... >>> >>> Dear Brian, >>> I wrote to you in January about this but I still cannot believe you >>> are actually going ahead with patenting the name of Hawkwind in the >>> USA on behalf of Nik Turner. If you win you will be the man who single >>> handedly destroyed the name of Hawkwind.. But you will not destroy >>> Dave who is the genius behind it. >>> There is only one leader of Hawkwind Dave Brock. He has led it for 44 >>> years and is the true spirit of Hawkwind. Nik is but a former shadow >>> and will not carry it nor has he earned it. Dave has held the Hawkwind >>> gauntlet through many years of hard work and tenacity aided by his >>> wife Kris and the many variations of the band. Latterly the Hawkwind >>> members are all very long standing each deserving the name of >>> Hawkwind.. >>> I am very saddened by your actions in USA. You should have been behind >>> them. Dave has recently been given another award i.e. ?Life Time >>> Achievement? in UK and has more awards to come later this year. Dave >>> has earned every award he has ever been given. Why because he is >>> Hawkwind. If Huw were here when Dave received this last award he would >>> have applauded Dave as I am sure he does in Heaven. Huw always loved >>> and respected Dave not just because of his prowess that is unique but >>> because of the man he is. Huw loved Dave and Kris to the end (as I do) >>> and in the end they returned that love to Huw sevenfold. You see the >>> spirit within us all is intangible but shines through when it is pure >>> and honest. That pureness is only gained through truth. >>> Your love of music has bought you so much success. But these actions >>> will taint and mar everything you do in the future. We all come to >>> this earth naked and leave naked. It is what we do while we are here >>> that marks us. What you are doing is unjust and if you succeed you >>> will destroy the careers of long standing members of Hawkwind. You >>> will also lose the respect of thousands of fans. >>> There is a proverb in the Old Testament ?What profit a man if he gains >>> the world and loses his soul?. Integrity is worth more than gold. >>> Yours will be an empty victory! >>> I am appealing to you Brian to think deeply and stop this before it is >>> too late! >>> Sincerely, >>> Marion >>> >>> To be perfectly frank I am absolutely heartbroken by all of this. I >>> cannot believe that Brian, Cleopatra and Nik Turner could be so >>> proactive in trying to destroy Hawkwind... >>> If Huw was alive he would be sick to the stomach...it is morally and >>> legally wrong.. >>> Marion >>> >>> >> -- >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production >> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> ? Frank Zappa >> > > From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 28 07:09:34 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:09:34 +0000 Subject: FWD message from Marion Lloyd Langton re the HW vs Nik fiasco In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27/10/2013 16:45, Mike c wrote: > Dear Hawkwind friends.. > I totally support Dave and Hawkwind. I have myself written a heartfelt > letter to Brian Perera from Cleopatra Records A most touching letter and very apt quotation. Well done Marion. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.