From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Aug 3 10:52:53 2013 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 10:52:53 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #313). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #313) Jay Tausig ? ?Blood And Bone? (from Scorpio Water Dragon Fire Bird) Vespero ? ?Thymus? (from Droga) Da Captain Trips ? ?Merfolk Ride? (from Anechoic Chamber Outcomes I) Landing ? ?Sphere II? (from II) Census of Hallucinations ? ?Infra Red Parts 1 & 2? (from Spirit of Yellow) The Rendlesham Forest Incident ? ?K?nnen (Krautrock Experiment #1)? (from Last Flight Of The Hope Dempsey) Mooch ? ?The Oak King and the Holly King? (from Stations Of The Sun) Melodic Energy Commission ? ?Trees on Water? (from Wave Packet) Melodic Energy Commission ? ?Figure It? (from Time Is A Slippery Concept) Melodic Energy Commission ? ?Plight Of The Dodo? / ?Rider From Nempnett Thrubell? (from Moonphase Compendium) Pseudo Sun ? ?The Time Traveller? (from Future Memoirs) Captain?s Log ? ?This Galaxy Ain?t Big Enough? (from Astral Voyage) Pseudo Sun ? ?Layers Of Moondust? (unreleased) Achilleus ??Snabbare An Tuden? (from Achilleus) Pseudo Sun ? ?If I Only Had Time? (from Atomic Dogs Don?t Bark) http://Aural-Innovations.com From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Sat Aug 3 17:01:35 2013 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:01:35 -0700 Subject: OFF: Music player advice, Return of... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl said.... On 29 Jul 2013, at 14:12 , Keith Henderson wrote: ? >> iTouches as an option.? The iTouch itself has the negatives of being rather small (4" display), and an Apple product (iTunes) (although I guess XBMC could potentially operate it??), and is rather expensive ($400) for the necessary memory (64GB).? That said, it offers that much internal storage, unlike most tablets with flash-only memory. >I fear I-m fairly ignorant about the Samsung devices, but what the heck is an "iTouch"? Do you mean an Apple "iPod Touch"? Or are they marketing that as an "iTouch" now?? I dunno.? But I think they're called colloquially iTouches, no matter their official name. >If that _is_ what you are talking about, isn't that device basically an iPhone without the phone?? Yeah, that is what I imagine as well.? But then, I haven't owned a phone of any kind (let alone a cell phone/handy) in about 15 years, so I don't know how they work, apart from watching others use theirs. >IMO, a phone-sized screen is handy for the pocket, but a bit small for something you plan to use as a control surface and that never leaves the house. Yes, exactly...hence my point above about it "being rather small (4" display)." >Equally, surely it can't hold more than about 64GB Yeah, but that's twice as big as the Nexus7 currently, and I think the rumors are that the new Nexus (whose rollout is imminent?) will also max out at 32 GB.? With no SD drive for expanded memory. >Anyway, I had sort of had it in my head that you were looking to _store_ audio files on some relatively hefty storage device (basically a big HD) Yes, for my collection (nearly 500 GB), that would be the case (via WiFi, once I get that rolling), but this playback would not be my primary casual listening tool.? So, the device will be primarily for playing my Mom's music collection, which is just small enough to load entirely onto the device without consideration of WiFi streaming.? And it has to be simple to operate by an 80yr old, and plug into our current stereo/speaker setup (which while unnecessarily large/powersapping, is otherwise completely useless, but not ready to be junked, so...) >Honestly, if you are just focused on letting your mom playback a 52GB collection, buy her an G4GB iPod touch (while they still make them!) and whatever random compatible speaker-dock the shop likewise has.? Then she can listen on headphones... My Mom never uses headphones, but that's besides the point.? iPod Touches are $400 alone...and the display is small.? Hence my preference for the tablets....as long as I get 64 GB space either in flash internal memory or as extended memory via micro-card drive, which is not often the case.? The Galaxy 3.0 Tab is hopefully the answer, though I still need to confirm the limitations of the SD drive. Plus, would an iTouch easily link up to a home PC/external drive full of AAC files via a std. home WiFi router?? Like I said, I'm totally ignorant about practical WiFi use.? The WiFi receiver that the iTouch has to connect to the iStore remotely is the same kind of WiFi receiver that accepts streaming in your home-WiFi setting?? Or not?? Or what? Ciao for niao...Keith H. From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Sat Aug 3 17:25:04 2013 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:25:04 -0700 Subject: OFF: Music player advice, Return of... In-Reply-To: <51F7999A.30204@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP offered... >Hey, I can answer some of this. I broke my Galazy tab 7 inch (version 1) and borrowed a Galaxy Tab 7 inch (version 3) while I was fixing it. >I used a 32Gb card with both. Never tried a 64Gb. I guess you don't have the Galaxy 3.0 anymore, if you got your old one fixed and returned, right?? So you can't check to see whether it would read from a 64 GB (assuming you had access to one of those as well) then?? Oh well, I'll have to ask some idiot kid at Best Buy or something, what the deal is.? As if he would know why the discrepancy.? :) >Connect your tab to a 'puter via USD and you can read/write as if it's an external drive. The SD card shows as a separate external drive to the tab main memory. Ah, I wondered about that, if it would "read through" the device into the chip...that makes it simple. > The manual also suggests it is compatible with AAC (MP4) audio, but then > it says it depends on the op software, which is Android "4.1.2 Jelly Bean."? Anybody know if that is > indeed the case? >I believe that even on the version 1 tab that I've been playing MP4 movies. Does that mean that MP4 audio works? I would think it has to mean that it would. >I like both Galaxy tabs, though my uses for the device possibly differ from yours: * Reading the web on the move. * Downloading web pages to read when I'm not able to get to the interwebs (using Pocket). * Listening to those web pages while walking using bluetooth headphones and the text-to-speech widget. * Getting stock prices. * Getting the weather. * Linking to hotel TVs to watch movies while travelling. * Watching movies on the train * Playing Backgammon/Scrabble/Go * Downloading PDFs to read * Reading e-books * Monitoring my sleep patterns * Making phone calls * Sending text messages * Updating my office diary * Reading/sending emails Oh yeah and: * Listening to music through headphones or hifi. I imagine that though we intend to use it primarily for "desktop music playback," the fact that it has so many other functionalities and the fact that it is almost certainly a much better computer than the one I'm writing on (XP-era) or my hand-me-down laptop (also XP-era with a non-functioning battery) means that we will use it for some of these other reasons as well.? (Not monitoring my sleep patterns though...I don't need to be reminded about how poor my sleep habits are.) >> I need the home router to put my external drive(s) on this desktop computer into >> use elsewhere in the house obviously...don't know how simple (and troublefree) that is until I try it. >I'd look at connecting the 'puter to the router via an ethernet cable (better connectivity). Which router?? Which computer?? I don't know how this sh*t works, as I said.? Wouldn't I still have my Linksys standard hardwire router in play?*? With the desktop PC plugged directly into that (non-WiFi)?? And then the WiFi router I buy plugged into the old Linksys box the same way (ethernet cable), and that broadcast out to the tablet in the living room (and my old Dell laptop in my room, which has an old clunky WiFi card).? What about the firewall box that is in line here?? I keep that in there too don't I? *or do I toss that aside (as redundant) when I buy a WiFi router?? Do they have duel functionality (ie. plug-in as well)? >> Anyway, it looks like I can get it done for the less-than-$400 I was budgeting for the project....that's good news. >Stuff like this is getting much cheaper. The Chromecast device: is going to be 35 Dollars. $400 was for the ENTIRE project, including the tablet, dock, and SD microchip, as well as the wireless router. >That means that other companies will bring out improved versions and pretty quickly >folks will be able to access their own movie/music collections whether they're >stored on the web, or on the computer in the bedroom. Yeah, I have been tried to surmise whether I want to try to either pay for (or finagle free) cloud storage of my music collection for security purposes.? At the moment, I'm just relying on backup (and partial double backup) of my music files on multiple external drives/thumb drives, in case one fails along the way.? At the moment, my situation is vulnerable to fire/theft, since they are both in the same edifice.? So I can either store one elsewhere, or upload it somewhere.? I don't see anyone offering 500GB free cloud storage as a bonus for anything we're in the process of signing up for (5-20 GB typical incentive), so I gather I would have to pay a monthly fee for this service right now.? I'm just hoping that flash-style (no moving parts) memory becomes cheaper than 40 cents/GB in the next two years (right now about 75 cents), and so I can put it there in addition and virtually carry it around in my pocket. Thanks for sharing your experience...it's been helpful... Keith From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 5 05:03:49 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:03:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Music player advice, Return of... In-Reply-To: <1375565104.2233.YahooMailNeo@web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 03/08/2013 22:25, Keith Henderson wrote: >>> I need the home router to put my external drive(s) on this desktop computer into >>> use elsewhere in the house obviously...don't know how simple (and troublefree) that is until I try it. > >> I'd look at connecting the 'puter to the router via an ethernet cable (better connectivity). > > Which router? Which computer? I don't know how this sh*t works, as I said. > Wouldn't I still have my Linksys standard hardwire router in play?* With the desktop PC plugged > directly into that (non-WiFi)? And then the WiFi router I buy plugged into the old Linksys box the > same way (ethernet cable), and that broadcast out to the tablet in the living room (and my old Dell > laptop in my room, which has an old clunky WiFi card). What about the firewall box that is in line here? > I keep that in there too don't I? That all sounds like it should work. > *or do I toss that aside (as redundant) when I buy a WiFi router? Do they have duel functionality (ie. plug-in as well)? It should be easy to buy a wifi router which has external ethernet ports. That plugs into your phone line through an adaptor which splits the phone line into a phone line and data line. You can run an ethernet cable from your computer to the wifi router. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 5 08:28:37 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:28:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Music player advice, Return of... In-Reply-To: <1375563695.66208.YahooMailNeo@web121606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 03 Aug 2013, at 16:01 , Keith Henderson wrote: > > So, the device will be primarily for playing my Mom's music collection, which is just small enough to load entirely onto the device without consideration of WiFi streaming. And it has to be simple to operate by an 80yr old, and plug into our current stereo/speaker setup (which while unnecessarily large/powersapping, is otherwise completely useless, but not ready to be junked, so...) Well, I think the usability of the UI will depend more on the user than anything else -- but you are then right that the tablet's bigger screen might be a plus! > Plus, would an iTouch easily link up to a home PC/external drive full of AAC files via a std. home WiFi router? Like I said, I'm totally ignorant about practical WiFi use. The WiFi receiver that the iTouch has to connect to the iStore remotely is the same kind of WiFi receiver that accepts streaming in your home-WiFi setting? Or not? Or what? I'm not quite sure what you are asking, but if all your mom's music is on the device as AACs or MP3s or whatever, and you are looking to play it over an existing stereo, then attaching to online stores (Apple's or any other) is irrelevant, no? You've got all your music on the mobile device. The trick remains getting it to your current stereo setup, as you say. (That's actually why I suggested a purpose-made mobile speaker-dock, perhaps with Bluetooth, leaving out the legacy stereo system altogether. Then the device just plays directly to the speaker-dock, with or without being attached.) You could either run an cable from the device's headphone jack to an aux input on your legacy stereo, or buy some separate wireless (Bluetooth?) receiver that is itself connected to the legacy stereo's aux input. (I don't know that such devices exist, but it seems like they should.) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 5 09:31:09 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:31:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Music player advice, Return of... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 05/08/2013 13:28, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > The trick remains getting it to your current stereo setup, as you say. (That's actually why I suggested a purpose-made mobile speaker-dock, > perhaps with Bluetooth, leaving out the legacy stereo system altogether. Then the device just plays directly to the speaker-dock, with > or without being attached.) You could either run an cable from the device's headphone jack to an aux input on your legacy stereo, or > buy some separate wireless (Bluetooth?) receiver that is itself connected to the legacy stereo's aux input. (I don't know that such devices exist, but it seems like they should.) They do: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-F8Z492cw-Bluetooth-Music-Receiver/dp/B0037LHUSE/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_4 I'd either do it this way, or with a dock. My Galaxy Tab (version 1) has a dock through which I play music and movies through my TV and stereo system: http://reviews.us.samsung.com/7463/ECR-D980BEGSTA/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-0-hdmi-multi-media-dock-reviews/reviews.htm This one doesn't work with the Galaxy Tab 7 (version 3) though I suspect it could be modded to take at least the audio (the problem is the fit for size - it uses the same actual connector. Since the version 3 doesn't have HDMI output, I wouldn't expect that to work. Alternatively: http://reviews.us.samsung.com/7463/ECR-D980BEGSTA/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-0-hdmi-multi-media-dock-reviews/reviews.htm is the dock for the version 3. It only has charging capability as far as I can tell. What you could so is get a 3.5mm stereo jack to 2 phono cable and plug it into your amplifier. Then run the cable to the dock and simply plug the 3,5mm jack into the headphone socket on the tab to play music through your stereo. The dock is probably 20 bucks in the US and even a long cable would cost less than 10 bucks. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Tue Aug 6 09:19:51 2013 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:19:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: Music player advice, Return of... Message-ID: Hi Keith, Glad to hear everything is going well with the project :-) Re the wireless, you have two options: 1. buy a wireless access point (WAP). This connects to your existing router with the usual network cable. Your tablet will connect wirelessly to the WAP, and the WAP then links it to the rest of your network through the cable. 2. replace your router with a router that has wireless built in. Option 1 is cheapest and simplest. The only downside is it's one more box. Option 2 is I suppose a bit more elegant but it will cost more and you'd have to configure the new router with your broadband details - though I'm guessing from what you've posted so far this wouldn't be any problem. JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Keith Henderson Sent: 03 August 2013 22:25 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Music player advice, Return of... FoFP offered... >Hey, I can answer some of this. I broke my Galazy tab 7 inch (version 1) and borrowed a Galaxy Tab 7 inch (version 3) while I was fixing it. >I used a 32Gb card with both. Never tried a 64Gb. I guess you don't have the Galaxy 3.0 anymore, if you got your old one fixed and returned, right?? So you can't check to see whether it would read from a 64 GB (assuming you had access to one of those as well) then?? Oh well, I'll have to ask some idiot kid at Best Buy or something, what the deal is.? As if he would know why the discrepancy.? :) >Connect your tab to a 'puter via USD and you can read/write as if it's an external drive. The SD card shows as a separate external drive to the tab main memory. Ah, I wondered about that, if it would "read through" the device into the chip...that makes it simple. > The manual also suggests it is compatible with AAC (MP4) audio, but then > it says it depends on the op software, which is Android "4.1.2 Jelly Bean."? Anybody know if that is > indeed the case? >I believe that even on the version 1 tab that I've been playing MP4 movies. Does that mean that MP4 audio works? I would think it has to mean that it would. >I like both Galaxy tabs, though my uses for the device possibly differ from yours: * Reading the web on the move. * Downloading web pages to read when I'm not able to get to the interwebs (using Pocket). * Listening to those web pages while walking using bluetooth headphones and the text-to-speech widget. * Getting stock prices. * Getting the weather. * Linking to hotel TVs to watch movies while travelling. * Watching movies on the train * Playing Backgammon/Scrabble/Go * Downloading PDFs to read * Reading e-books * Monitoring my sleep patterns * Making phone calls * Sending text messages * Updating my office diary * Reading/sending emails Oh yeah and: * Listening to music through headphones or hifi. I imagine that though we intend to use it primarily for "desktop music playback," the fact that it has so many other functionalities and the fact that it is almost certainly a much better computer than the one I'm writing on (XP-era) or my hand-me-down laptop (also XP-era with a non-functioning battery) means that we will use it for some of these other reasons as well.? (Not monitoring my sleep patterns though...I don't need to be reminded about how poor my sleep habits are.) >> I need the home router to put my external drive(s) on this desktop computer into >> use elsewhere in the house obviously...don't know how simple (and troublefree) that is until I try it. >I'd look at connecting the 'puter to the router via an ethernet cable (better connectivity). Which router?? Which computer?? I don't know how this sh*t works, as I said.? Wouldn't I still have my Linksys standard hardwire router in play?*? With the desktop PC plugged directly into that (non-WiFi)?? And then the WiFi router I buy plugged into the old Linksys box the same way (ethernet cable), and that broadcast out to the tablet in the living room (and my old Dell laptop in my room, which has an old clunky WiFi card).? What about the firewall box that is in line here?? I keep that in there too don't I? *or do I toss that aside (as redundant) when I buy a WiFi router?? Do they have duel functionality (ie. plug-in as well)? >> Anyway, it looks like I can get it done for the less-than-$400 I was budgeting for the project....that's good news. >Stuff like this is getting much cheaper. The Chromecast device: is going to be 35 Dollars. $400 was for the ENTIRE project, including the tablet, dock, and SD microchip, as well as the wireless router. >That means that other companies will bring out improved versions and pretty quickly >folks will be able to access their own movie/music collections whether they're >stored on the web, or on the computer in the bedroom. Yeah, I have been tried to surmise whether I want to try to either pay for (or finagle free) cloud storage of my music collection for security purposes.? At the moment, I'm just relying on backup (and partial double backup) of my music files on multiple external drives/thumb drives, in case one fails along the way.? At the moment, my situation is vulnerable to fire/theft, since they are both in the same edifice.? So I can either store one elsewhere, or upload it somewhere.? I don't see anyone offering 500GB free cloud storage as a bonus for anything we're in the process of signing up for (5-20 GB typical incentive), so I gather I would have to pay a monthly fee for this service right now.? I'm just hoping that flash-style (no moving parts) memory becomes cheaper than 40 cents/GB in the next two years (right now about 75 cents), and so I can put it there in addition and virtually carry it around in my pocket. Thanks for sharing your experience...it's been helpful... Keith From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Wed Aug 14 20:38:33 2013 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (EMFalk) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:38:33 -0400 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen Message-ID: Sad news today: "August 14, 2013 We have extremely sad news to report. We've lost our friend and bandmate Allen Lanier. Allen succumbed to complications from C.O.P.D. He is survived by his wife Dory, sister Mary Anne and mother Martha. Although he retired from touring in 2006 Allen returned to the stage for what turned out to be his final appearance, reuniting with B?C at the 40th Anniversary show in New York this past November. DFTR sweet man. We love you and miss you." -- ?Sometimes life is merely a matter of coffee and whatever intimacy a cup of coffee affords.? ?Richard Brautigan From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 14 20:55:15 2013 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (Gary Shindler) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:55:15 -0500 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I noticed earlier today they changed their Facebook cover photo to a shot of all members playing at the 40th anniversary show. That page had been dormant until today. On Aug 14, 2013, at 7:38 PM, EMFalk wrote: > Sad news today: > > > > "August 14, 2013 > We have extremely sad news to report. > We've lost our friend and bandmate Allen Lanier. > > Allen succumbed to complications from C.O.P.D. > He is survived by his wife Dory, sister Mary Anne and mother Martha. > > Although he retired from touring in 2006 Allen returned to the stage for what turned out to be his final appearance, reuniting with B?C at the 40th Anniversary show in New York this past November. > > DFTR sweet man. We love you and miss you." > > -- > > ?Sometimes life is merely a matter of coffee > and whatever intimacy a cup of coffee affords.? ?Richard Brautigan From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Aug 14 22:05:05 2013 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:05:05 -0400 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Damn. On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:55:15 -0500, Gary Shindler wrote: > I noticed earlier today they changed their Facebook cover photo to a shot > of all members playing at the 40th anniversary show. That page had been > dormant until today. > > > > On Aug 14, 2013, at 7:38 PM, EMFalk wrote: > >> Sad news today: >> >> >> >> "August 14, 2013 >> We have extremely sad news to report. >> We've lost our friend and bandmate Allen Lanier. >> >> Allen succumbed to complications from C.O.P.D. >> He is survived by his wife Dory, sister Mary Anne and mother Martha. >> >> Although he retired from touring in 2006 Allen returned to the stage for >> what turned out to be his final appearance, reuniting with B?C at the >> 40th Anniversary show in New York this past November. >> >> DFTR sweet man. We love you and miss you." >> >> -- >> >> ?Sometimes life is merely a matter of coffee >> and whatever intimacy a cup of coffee affords.? ?Richard Brautigan From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Aug 15 00:05:14 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:05:14 -0500 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 14 Aug 2013, at 19:38 , EMFalk wrote: > Sad news today: > > "August 14, 2013 > We have extremely sad news to report. > We've lost our friend and bandmate Allen Lanier. :( -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 15 01:31:46 2013 From: martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM (martyn white) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:31:46 -0700 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen In-Reply-To: <5629FB16-DFEC-402C-A419-AD259B5E573F@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Don't fear the reaper. ________________________________ From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 12:05 AM Subject: Re: BOC - RIP Allen On 14 Aug 2013, at 19:38 , EMFalk wrote: > Sad news today: > > "August 14, 2013 > We have extremely sad news to report. > We've lost our friend and bandmate Allen Lanier. :( -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 15 04:31:36 2013 From: richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 09:31:36 +0100 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen In-Reply-To: <1376544706.85205.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Very sad news. :-( On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:31 AM, martyn white wrote: > Don't fear the reaper. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 12:05 AM > Subject: Re: BOC - RIP Allen > > > On 14 Aug 2013, at 19:38 , EMFalk wrote: > > Sad news today: > > > > "August 14, 2013 > > We have extremely sad news to report. > > We've lost our friend and bandmate Allen Lanier. > > > :( > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Aug 15 07:07:56 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:07:56 -0400 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: that's very sad, my brother passed away from the same disease. Mary looking forward to the show here on Saturday. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of EMFalk Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:39 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: BOC - RIP Allen Sad news today: "August 14, 2013 We have extremely sad news to report. We've lost our friend and bandmate Allen Lanier. Allen succumbed to complications from C.O.P.D. He is survived by his wife Dory, sister Mary Anne and mother Martha. Although he retired from touring in 2006 Allen returned to the stage for what turned out to be his final appearance, reuniting with B?C at the 40th Anniversary show in New York this past November. DFTR sweet man. We love you and miss you." -- ?Sometimes life is merely a matter of coffee and whatever intimacy a cup of coffee affords.? ?Richard Brautigan From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Thu Aug 15 11:04:24 2013 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (EMFalk) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:04:24 -0400 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=AABlue_=C3=96yster_Cult=E2=80=AC_?=Guitarist Allen Lanier Dies | Billboard Message-ID: -- ?Sometimes life is merely a matter of coffee and whatever intimacy a cup of coffee affords.? ?Richard Brautigan From asg at MVDBASE.COM Thu Aug 15 12:17:47 2013 From: asg at MVDBASE.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 18:17:47 +0200 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Damn. I'm really sad to hear this. My thoughts to the family and friends. Alex. On Thursday 15 August 2013, EMFalk wrote: > Sad news today: > > > > "August 14, 2013 > We have extremely sad news to report. > We've lost our friend and bandmate Allen Lanier. > > Allen succumbed to complications from C.O.P.D. > He is survived by his wife Dory, sister Mary Anne and mother Martha. > > Although he retired from touring in 2006 Allen returned to the stage for > what turned out to be his final appearance, reuniting with B?C at the 40th > Anniversary show in New York this past November. > > DFTR sweet man. We love you and miss you." -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jt_ at COX.NET Thu Aug 15 20:35:21 2013 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:35:21 -0500 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen (Rolling Stone) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/blue-oyster-cult-co-founder-allen-lanier-dead-at-67-20130815 Sigh From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 15 22:37:08 2013 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (Gary Shindler) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 21:37:08 -0500 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen (Rolling Stone) In-Reply-To: <520D73C9.5000407@cox.net> Message-ID: BOC's Facebook page posted rehearsal footage from the 40th anniversary with Patti Smith. I suggest everyone look it up. If I could I'd share it. On Aug 15, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Jeff Thompson wrote: > http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/blue-oyster-cult-co-founder-allen-lanier-dead-at-67-20130815 > > Sigh From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Thu Aug 15 23:05:55 2013 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (EMFalk) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:05:55 -0400 Subject: BOC - RIP Allen (Rolling Stone) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Interesting to hear Patti sing the song. Would have been great to see. I saw the rescheduled show back in October. Every one seemed in good form. Great to watch Allen play. On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:37:08 -0400, Gary Shindler wrote: > BOC's Facebook page posted rehearsal footage from the 40th anniversary > with Patti Smith. I suggest everyone look it up. If I could I'd share it. > > > > On Aug 15, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Jeff Thompson wrote: > >> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/blue-oyster-cult-co-founder-allen-lanier-dead-at-67-20130815 >> >> Sigh > -- ?Sometimes life is merely a matter of coffee and whatever intimacy a cup of coffee affords.? ?Richard Brautigan From tim at KALYR.COM Sat Aug 17 10:36:10 2013 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 15:36:10 +0100 Subject: "By Mirrors it was all over" Message-ID: Quote from cut-and-paste by a Severn FM DJ left against a Facebook post of mine. While I'd agree that B?C's best work is earlier in their career, with Secret Treaties as the peak, I wouldn't be that dismissive of later albums, especially "Cultasaurus" and "Fire of Unknown Origin". I'd say that it was only after Albert left that the albums started getting really patchy. What's the list's verdict on the later albums, especially "Heaven Forbid" and "Curse of the Hidden Mirror". Do people still listen to them? Tim -- Tim Hall http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://twitter.com/kalyr From asg at MVDBASE.COM Sat Aug 17 11:31:37 2013 From: asg at MVDBASE.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:31:37 +0200 Subject: "By Mirrors it was all over" In-Reply-To: <520F8A5A.5020207@kalyr.com> Message-ID: > What's the list's verdict on the later albums, especially "Heaven > Forbid" and "Curse of the Hidden Mirror". Do people still listen to them? I do, occasionally. And though I'd tend to agree with that quote from "Severn FM DJ" (I love the CE and FoUO albums), I think HF and Curse, in a way, marked a sort of return to the type of songs I enjoy most from the band. Though, admittedly, they both have their ups and downs. And, as I've mentioned before, I'll always have a soft spot for "Imaginos". Alex. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sat Aug 17 11:33:36 2013 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (Gary Shindler) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:33:36 -0500 Subject: "By Mirrors it was all over" In-Reply-To: <520F8A5A.5020207@kalyr.com> Message-ID: I haven't listened to either album in a long time. They even dropped I See You In Black from their set lists too. Maybe I will dig them out though. On Aug 17, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Tim Hall wrote: > Quote from cut-and-paste by a Severn FM DJ left against a Facebook post of mine. > > While I'd agree that B?C's best work is earlier in their career, with Secret Treaties as the peak, I wouldn't be that dismissive of later albums, especially "Cultasaurus" and "Fire of Unknown Origin". I'd say that it was only after Albert left that the albums started getting really patchy. > > What's the list's verdict on the later albums, especially "Heaven Forbid" and "Curse of the Hidden Mirror". Do people still listen to them? > > Tim > > -- > Tim Hall > http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > http://twitter.com/kalyr From tim at KALYR.COM Sat Aug 17 11:50:05 2013 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:50:05 +0100 Subject: "By Mirrors it was all over" In-Reply-To: <201308171731.37509.asg@mvdbase.com> Message-ID: On 17/08/2013 16:31, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > I do, occasionally. And though I'd tend to agree with that quote from "Severn > FM DJ" (I love the CE and FoUO albums) My apologies for being unclear (and I realised that as soon as I posted it) The quote from the DJ was "By Mirrors it was all over". The bit you agreed with was my response. -- Tim Hall http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://twitter.com/kalyr From tim at KALYR.COM Sat Aug 17 12:59:36 2013 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:59:36 +0100 Subject: My tribute to Allen Message-ID: Post about Allen on my blog http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/music/music-news/rip-allen-lanier/ -- Tim Hall http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://twitter.com/kalyr From kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK Sat Aug 17 16:06:20 2013 From: kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK (Ralph) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 16:06:20 -0400 Subject: My tribute to Allen Message-ID: Just one thing - I make it he was 67, not 66... From tim at KALYR.COM Sat Aug 17 16:18:54 2013 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 21:18:54 +0100 Subject: My tribute to Allen In-Reply-To: <8255332791318262.WA.kirthgersenhotmail.co.uk@listserv.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: On 17/08/2013 21:06, Ralph wrote: > Just one thing - I make it he was 67, not 66... A couple of other sites were quoting his age as 66, so I assumed it was correct. -- Tim Hall http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://twitter.com/kalyr From jt_ at COX.NET Sun Aug 18 00:15:47 2013 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:15:47 -0500 Subject: "By Mirrors it was all over" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/17/2013 9:36 AM, Tim Hall wrote: I listen to Curse of the Hidden Mirror quite a lot. Heaven Forbid a little less so. They aren't Albert's BOC, but they are a damn sight better than Club Ninja or Revolution By Night. And, cutting it off at Mirrors is wrong. It is a dip to me, not a cut off point. > Quote from cut-and-paste by a Severn FM DJ left against a Facebook > post of mine. > > While I'd agree that B?C's best work is earlier in their career, with > Secret Treaties as the peak, I wouldn't be that dismissive of later > albums, especially "Cultasaurus" and "Fire of Unknown Origin". I'd say > that it was only after Albert left that the albums started getting > really patchy. > > What's the list's verdict on the later albums, especially "Heaven > Forbid" and "Curse of the Hidden Mirror". Do people still listen to them? > > Tim > From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Sun Aug 18 02:00:27 2013 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 00:00:27 -0600 Subject: "By Mirrors it was all over" In-Reply-To: <520F8A5A.5020207@kalyr.com> Message-ID: >>>What's the list's verdict on the later albums, especially "Heaven Forbid" and "Curse of the Hidden Mirror". Do people still listen to them? I still listen to them and rather enjoy them. If they ever record another album, I'm buying it. Revolution by Night is my least favorite BOC album, although it is still on both my Zunes and I don't skip any of the tunes when they come up. I really enjoy a lot of the live stuff I downloaded with the box set. There are some really cool jewels there. Brad in Utah. From kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK Sun Aug 18 08:45:41 2013 From: kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK (Ralph) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 08:45:41 -0400 Subject: Boc: Re: "By Mirrors it was all over" Message-ID: For me, it all went downhill after "Fire of Unknown Origin" (1981) after their drummer "self-imploded" for a spell - if they could have contained that situation for a little while until the dust settled and perspectives were regained, all might have been well, and we might have had thirty more years of fantastic BOC songs/albums... but they didn't, and so we didn't... for me, it was just a terrible waste... This isn't to knock the emergence of The Brain Surgeons/Blue Coupe etc - in fact, the sheer creative output of the both Bouchards since just points to the fact of who really was at the creative driving heart of BOC... From jt_ at COX.NET Sun Aug 18 20:40:54 2013 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jt_@cox.net) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:40:54 -0500 Subject: BOC - Tenderloin Re: My tribute to Allen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Very good, Tim. Well written. I didn't realize he'd written Tenderloin! So, anyway, what IS Tenderloin about?! I mean, yeah, drugs, do another line, etc But is it about the Tenderloin district in San Francisco? The Oyster Boys were such NYC boys, why would Allen write about SF? Whats with the nighttime gardens and flowers, "Tenderloin will last all night?" On Aug 17, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Tim Hall wrote: > Post about Allen on my blog > > http://www.kalyr.com/weblog/music/music-news/rip-allen-lanier/ > > -- > Tim Hall > http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > http://twitter.com/kalyr From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 21 08:46:55 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:46:55 -0500 Subject: "By Mirrors it was all over" In-Reply-To: <520F8A5A.5020207@kalyr.com> Message-ID: On 17 Aug 2013, at 09:36 , Tim Hall wrote: > > Quote from cut-and-paste by a Severn FM DJ left against a Facebook post of mine. > While I'd agree that B?C's best work is earlier in their career, with Secret Treaties as the peak, I wouldn't be that dismissive of later albums, especially "Cultasaurus" and "Fire of Unknown Origin". I'd say that it was only after Albert left that the albums started getting really patchy. I'd _overall_ agree .... though frankly it's tough to point fingers. People tend to canonize the early '70s albums and demonize the ones from later in the decade, but though _ST_ really is quite strong (though I've never been thrilled with the production, allowing that such things are very much a matter of personal taste!), as with most bands, there's good and less good on most of the albums. Perhaps there's a little more less good on the later '70s ones, but I also think they are probably not so bad as people make out. In any case, not to the point that "by Mirrors it was all over". FoUO was perhaps compromised somewhat by the intended-but-not-realized association with the Heavy Metal film ("You'll use that special option in your car"!), and it would be easy to argue that the production pointed the way to the slick'n'soulness '80s, but, hey, it _was_ 1981 and I think of FoUO as a late-bloomer: the swan song of the classic lineup, and going out on a genuine high. And it's too bad that the classic lineup then exploded -- or disintegrated -- but it was as it was. Equally, I don't think RbN or CN are _all_ bad, nor would I necessarily attribute the apparent preponderance of badness to the lack of the Bouchard Bros. To an extent, they may have even "lucked out" (so to speak, if you see what I mean) in not being associated with the less-well-received recordings of the band in a era that was, in general, not good to bands that had been big in the '70s! Admittedly, they are conspicuous by their relative absence (Joe appears as a co-writer on, like, 3 songs?) in the writing credits. And, of course, Albert is conspicuous by his presence (and not only as a writer) on the not-realized-as-envisioned-but-still-astonishing-and-glorious _Imaginos_, which is really not a B?C album, but would another career highpoint if it were. I certainly don-t stop listening that _that_! :) > What's the list's verdict on the later albums, especially "Heaven Forbid" and "Curse of the Hidden Mirror". Do people still listen to them? I put HF and CotHM into sort of the same category as RbN and CN: not all bad (and, IMO, much better in terms of production!) but suffering from lack of vibe and the song-writing strengths that made the '70s albums what you were. Buck is clearly capable of writing some great songs, and IMO Eric and Allen always had strengths in that department, but there was not enough going on in the writing to produce enough material that was up to the standard of that produced when The Bouchards and Sandy P. had had their oars in as well. One of the strongest pieces on either record is probably "Harvest Moon", a solo-penned Buck number that actually goes back to at least The Red & The Black trio of the late '80s/early '90s before winding up on HF in '98. So there you have it. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 21 13:40:00 2013 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (Gary Shindler) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:40:00 -0500 Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] Not Murmur: 36 great but underappreciated records from 1983 Message-ID: The Revolution By Night is mentioned in this article. Begin forwarded message: > From: Up-Tight-owner at yahoogroups.com > Date: August 20, 2013, 5:34:52 AM CDT > To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Up-Tight] Not Murmur: 36 great but underappreciated records from 1983 > Reply-To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com > > "A ton of excellent records came out in 1983, and a good number of them?R.E.M.'s Murmur, New Order's Power, Corruption & Lies, Metallica's Kill 'Em All, Madonna's Madonna, and so on?have been written about a million times. Rather than contribute to that 30-year-old dogpile, The A.V. Club decided to take its celebration of the music of 1983 a different way and focus on records that are actually pretty great but maybe haven't gotten the ink?virtual or physical?that they really deserve. Below are 36 excellent but tragically underrated records from 1983, from Crass' Yes Sir, I Will to "Weird Al" Yankovic's self-titled debut." > > http://www.avclub.com/articles/not-murmur-36-great-but-underappreciated-records-f,101814/ > > Al > > __._,_.___ > Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 1 > Visit Your Group > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use ? Send us Feedback > . > > __,_._,___ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 21 21:58:47 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (the knob) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:58:47 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) Message-ID: Party time has come early :) :) http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIK-TURNER-ex-Hawkwind-Space-Gypsy-CD-Simon-House-Steve-Hillage-guest-stars-/380702025137?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item58a39be5b1 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 21 23:28:39 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (the "knob" formerly known as mike c) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:28:39 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and for the more skeptical, hesitant, nose-turning, "difficult" shoppers: (wink) http://www.ebay.com/itm/380702047910?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D380702047910%26_rdc%3D1#ht_26wt_679 On 8/21/13, the knob wrote: > Party time has come early :) :) > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIK-TURNER-ex-Hawkwind-Space-Gypsy-CD-Simon-House-Steve-Hillage-guest-stars-/380702025137?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item58a39be5b1 > From jt_ at COX.NET Wed Aug 21 23:30:57 2013 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:30:57 -0500 Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] Not Murmur: 36 great but underappreciated records from 1983 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is? Skimming it, and doing ctrl f and searching for "cult" and "revolution" I couldn't find the mention. On 8/21/2013 12:40 PM, Gary Shindler wrote: > The Revolution By Night is mentioned in this article. > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Up-Tight-owner at yahoogroups.com >> Date: August 20, 2013, 5:34:52 AM CDT >> To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Up-Tight] Not Murmur: 36 great but underappreciated records from 1983 >> Reply-To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com >> >> "A ton of excellent records came out in 1983, and a good number of them?R.E.M.'s Murmur, New Order's Power, Corruption & Lies, Metallica's Kill 'Em All, Madonna's Madonna, and so on?have been written about a million times. Rather than contribute to that 30-year-old dogpile, The A.V. Club decided to take its celebration of the music of 1983 a different way and focus on records that are actually pretty great but maybe haven't gotten the ink?virtual or physical?that they really deserve. Below are 36 excellent but tragically underrated records from 1983, from Crass' Yes Sir, I Will to "Weird Al" Yankovic's self-titled debut." >> >> http://www.avclub.com/articles/not-murmur-36-great-but-underappreciated-records-f,101814/ >> >> Al >> >> __._,_.___ >> Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) >> RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 1 >> Visit Your Group >> >> Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use ? Send us Feedback >> . >> >> __,_._,___ From nathan.gilbert at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 21 23:33:36 2013 From: nathan.gilbert at GMAIL.COM (Nathan Gilbert) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:33:36 -0600 Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] Not Murmur: 36 great but underappreciated records from 1983 In-Reply-To: <521585F1.8070509@cox.net> Message-ID: It's on the second page. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Jeff Thompson wrote: > It is? Skimming it, and doing ctrl f and searching for "cult" and > "revolution" > I couldn't find the mention. > > > On 8/21/2013 12:40 PM, Gary Shindler wrote: > >> The Revolution By Night is mentioned in this article. >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: Up-Tight-owner at yahoogroups.com >>> Date: August 20, 2013, 5:34:52 AM CDT >>> To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: [Up-Tight] Not Murmur: 36 great but underappreciated records >>> from 1983 >>> Reply-To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com >>> >>> "A ton of excellent records came out in 1983, and a good number of >>> them?R.E.M.'s Murmur, New Order's Power, Corruption & Lies, Metallica's >>> Kill 'Em All, Madonna's Madonna, and so on?have been written about a >>> million times. Rather than contribute to that 30-year-old dogpile, The A.V. >>> Club decided to take its celebration of the music of 1983 a different way >>> and focus on records that are actually pretty great but maybe haven't >>> gotten the ink?virtual or physical?that they really deserve. Below are 36 >>> excellent but tragically underrated records from 1983, from Crass' Yes Sir, >>> I Will to "Weird Al" Yankovic's self-titled debut." >>> >>> http://www.avclub.com/**articles/not-murmur-36-great-** >>> but-underappreciated-records-**f,101814/ >>> >>> Al >>> >>> __._,_.___ >>> Reply via web post Reply to sender >>> Reply to group Start a New >>> Topic Messages in this topic (1) >>> RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 1 >>> Visit Your Group >>> >>> Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use ? Send >>> us Feedback >>> . >>> __,_._,___ >>> >> From jt_ at COX.NET Thu Aug 22 00:21:30 2013 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 23:21:30 -0500 Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] Not Murmur: 36 great but underappreciated records from 1983 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had JUST noticed that. Argh. Thanks. On 8/21/2013 10:33 PM, Nathan Gilbert wrote: > It's on the second page. > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Jeff Thompson wrote: > >> It is? Skimming it, and doing ctrl f and searching for "cult" and >> "revolution" >> I couldn't find the mention. >> >> >> On 8/21/2013 12:40 PM, Gary Shindler wrote: >> >>> The Revolution By Night is mentioned in this article. >>> >>> >>> From jvk at MAC.COM Thu Aug 22 04:56:06 2013 From: jvk at MAC.COM (John Keogh) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:56:06 +0100 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The CD is ?11.99 at base.com. On 22 Aug 2013, at 04:28, "the \"knob\" formerly known as mike c" wrote: > and for the more skeptical, hesitant, nose-turning, "difficult" > shoppers: (wink) > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/380702047910?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D380702047910%26_rdc%3D1#ht_26wt_679 > > > > On 8/21/13, the knob wrote: >> Party time has come early :) :) >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIK-TURNER-ex-Hawkwind-Space-Gypsy-CD-Simon-House-Steve-Hillage-guest-stars-/380702025137?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item58a39be5b1 >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 22 06:16:25 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 05:16:25 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: <779974C8-9708-471E-A784-5E8721F5EDBD@mac.com> Message-ID: My posts on this forum are expected as private submissons to the forum members here and any transmission or mention of them to any other people (who you might know to be suspect where my own standing elsewhere might be concerned) requires my express written consent. The ancient gods still present on earth look after me on these matters :) My heart is right :) This is not a challenge to hawkwind in any way coming from me. just sharing a newbie I knew about On 8/22/13, John Keogh wrote: > The CD is ?11.99 at base.com. > > > On 22 Aug 2013, at 04:28, "the \"knob\" formerly known as mike c" > wrote: > >> and for the more skeptical, hesitant, nose-turning, "difficult" >> shoppers: (wink) >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/380702047910?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D380702047910%26_rdc%3D1#ht_26wt_679 >> >> >> >> On 8/21/13, the knob wrote: >>> Party time has come early :) :) >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIK-TURNER-ex-Hawkwind-Space-Gypsy-CD-Simon-House-Steve-Hillage-guest-stars-/380702025137?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item58a39be5b1 >>> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Aug 22 07:13:24 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:13:24 -0400 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: that sounds really cool. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of the knob Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:59 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) Party time has come early :) :) http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIK-TURNER-ex-Hawkwind-Space-Gypsy-CD-Simon-House-St eve-Hillage-guest-stars-/380702025137?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item58a39be5b1 From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 22 08:12:27 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:12:27 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I will take the double CD! On 22 Aug 2013 19:15, "mary ann sullivan" wrote: > that sounds really cool. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of the knob > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:59 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) > > Party time has come early :) :) > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIK-TURNER-ex-Hawkwind-Space-Gypsy-CD-Simon-House-St > eve-Hillage-guest-stars-/380702025137?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item58a39be5b1 > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 22 12:45:35 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:45:35 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: if' i'm in touble with hawkwind somebody's poodle gets tickled :) and thanks for thinking what I worte early this AM (when I was really tired and freaked out) was cool Mary :) :) (wink) ps- had a Bun Bun weight scare yesterday. that explains the rudeness. I even ran to the stewarts On 8/22/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > I will take the double CD! > On 22 Aug 2013 19:15, "mary ann sullivan" > wrote: > >> that sounds really cool. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of the knob >> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:59 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) >> >> Party time has come early :) :) >> >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIK-TURNER-ex-Hawkwind-Space-Gypsy-CD-Simon-House-St >> eve-Hillage-guest-stars-/380702025137?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item58a39be5b1 >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 22 21:58:28 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:58:28 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: so anyway, i'm kinda excited to hear this and I hope if there is any lingering name disputing that it will fall away and nik will go on to rock as nik and just be an "ex" if thats what it takes. On 8/22/13, mike c wrote: > if' i'm in touble with hawkwind somebody's poodle gets tickled :) > and thanks for thinking what I worte early this AM (when I was really > tired and freaked out) was cool Mary :) :) (wink) > > ps- had a Bun Bun weight scare yesterday. that explains the rudeness. > I even ran to the stewarts > > > On 8/22/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> I will take the double CD! >> On 22 Aug 2013 19:15, "mary ann sullivan" >> wrote: >> >>> that sounds really cool. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >>> On >>> Behalf Of the knob >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:59 PM >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) >>> >>> Party time has come early :) :) >>> >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIK-TURNER-ex-Hawkwind-Space-Gypsy-CD-Simon-House-St >>> eve-Hillage-guest-stars-/380702025137?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item58a39be5b1 >>> >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 23 08:03:54 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 07:03:54 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think that anyone who would be influenced by the juxtaposition of Nik's name and that of Hawkwind ALREADY KNOWS Nik was in Hawkwind -- so the actual juxtaposition is kind of irrelevant. I did like the "Fallen Angel" single, so I look forward to the new album (with hopes that the single was not the only decent track!). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 23 08:23:55 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:23:55 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy Nik`s albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the second seems more forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing new material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: > I think that anyone who would be influenced by the juxtaposition of Nik's > name and that of Hawkwind ALREADY KNOWS Nik was in Hawkwind -- so the > actual juxtaposition is kind of irrelevant. > > I did like the "Fallen Angel" single, so I look forward to the new album > (with hopes that the single was not the only decent track!). > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 23 09:32:58 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (microfilaria) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:32:58 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy Nik`s > albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the second seems more > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing new > material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") Please educate me on these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to track down edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I like it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 23 09:54:38 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 21:54:38 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have* tons* of Nik Turner stuff! ;) Second Nik track, TIME CRYPT : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwJSAEh7Uc. *We are One* by the 'Hawlords' has some good tracks. There is another one coming: *Dream*: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5zxNtViNCA I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? On 23 August 2013 21:32, microfilaria wrote: > On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy Nik`s > > albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the second seems > more > > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing new > > material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. > > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: > > > Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? > But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") > Please educate me on these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to > track down > > > edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I like > it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 23 10:51:49 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (microfilaria) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:51:49 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've meanwhile just hear from old friend of some of us (seldom heard from), who was seeing HW here in the USA all the way back to the start, and he has this already!! How'd he do that?? His comment was so positive I am not repeating it On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > I have* tons* of Nik Turner stuff! ;) > > Second Nik track, TIME CRYPT : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwJSAEh7Uc. > > *We are One* by the 'Hawlords' has some good tracks. There is another one > coming: *Dream*: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5zxNtViNCA > > I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? > > > On 23 August 2013 21:32, microfilaria wrote: > >> On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy Nik`s >> > albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the second seems >> more >> > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing >> > new >> > material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. >> > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: >> >> >> Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? >> But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") >> Please educate me on these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to >> track down >> >> >> edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I like >> it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 23 11:26:03 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:26:03 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sorry 1 more His comment wasn't THAT positive :) But it wasn't negative sorry!! On 8/23/13, microfilaria wrote: > I've meanwhile just hear from old friend of some of us (seldom heard > from), who was seeing HW here in the USA all the way back to the > start, and he has this already!! > How'd he do that?? > > His comment was so positive I am not repeating it > > On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> I have* tons* of Nik Turner stuff! ;) >> >> Second Nik track, TIME CRYPT : >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwJSAEh7Uc. >> >> *We are One* by the 'Hawlords' has some good tracks. There is another one >> coming: *Dream*: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5zxNtViNCA >> >> I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? >> >> >> On 23 August 2013 21:32, microfilaria wrote: >> >>> On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >>> > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy Nik`s >>> > albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the second seems >>> more >>> > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing >>> > new >>> > material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. >>> > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: >>> >>> >>> Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? >>> But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") >>> Please educate me on these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to >>> track down >>> >>> >>> edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I like >>> it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) >>> >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 23 14:02:49 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:02:49 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Aug 2013, at 08:32 , microfilaria wrote: > > Please educate me on these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to > track down http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OytZekcZst4 I like it. I've certainly heard worse from the HW camp. :) Though I'm bemused that, judging from the video, Nik seems to have Zach Galifianakis playing guitar for him .... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 23 14:04:03 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:04:03 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Aug 2013, at 08:54 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? I've been given to understand that a live album is supposed to happen/have been recorded, but who knows about a studio album (or what Alan is otherwise up to musicwise, away from the live circuit)? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 23 14:36:01 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:36:01 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: <1E78E90B-F3FF-4600-8EC8-0E4B95CB6CFF@carlaz.com> Message-ID: The fallen angel single that got here as if by teleportation, just now, lists nicky garratt on lead and accoustic guitar in case this is of any use to you more capable not in purg :) On 8/23/13, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 23 Aug 2013, at 08:54 , Jonathan Smith wrote: >> >> I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? > > I've been given to understand that a live album is supposed to happen/have > been recorded, but who knows about a studio album (or what Alan is otherwise > up to musicwise, away from the live circuit)? > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 23 16:06:11 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:06:11 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/23/13, mike c wrote: > in case this is of any use to you more capable not in purg :) oh dear, to be clear, I had not even looked at that video when i mentioned the guitarist My question to Lost Johnny refrered to 45 singles :) this was a nod TO carl and the rest of you. Just wanted to nake that clear!!! I referred to myself From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 23 14:10:49 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:10:49 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Aug 2013, at 13:02 , Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OytZekcZst4 > I like it. I've certainly heard worse from the HW camp. :) But, yes, admittedly "Time Crypt" is less promising .... -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 23 22:54:50 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:54:50 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't have records, but have some kind of copy of most of Nik's stuff. :) *Fallen Angel* is good but *Time Crypt* is rather predictable, but I am still hoping the album will be some of his best. As for dream *Dream-- *less interesting on the surface. Jerry Richards. Adrian Shaw, Harvey and Ron Tree have produced a lot of material over the years so who knows? On 24 August 2013 02:10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 23 Aug 2013, at 13:02 , Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OytZekcZst4 > > I like it. I've certainly heard worse from the HW camp. :) > > But, yes, admittedly "Time Crypt" is less promising .... > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 02:05:04 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (In secure ET) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:05:04 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > I don't have records, but have some kind of copy of most of Nik's stuff. :) I knew everything with you the whole time. I know you likely have more HW music than I can ever catch up to now. I apologise for refrering to you as LJ here, hopefully you know that was an accident. > *Fallen Angel* is good but *Time Crypt* is rather predictable, but I am > still hoping the album will be some of his best. If that was the vid with the walking dead, I think I might like it better in big sound with no visual. Maybe we should now create a reference "promo vids" I hope all the musicans create ways for us to enjpy them without strain on them or us. Ultimately they are all so delightful overall. In Nik's case I think it would be plenty exciting to go see him wirh a show of new material and not have anything centered on the old stuff It sure was nice to hear his flute blooming off the wax From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 02:18:38 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:18:38 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I can't catch up with it either. I don't mind LJ at all, especially with the sad demise of the inventor of that character. 'Promo videos' is a good name. I don't really watch them, just listen. I would love to see Nik doing new material too. I wonder if it will happen? It didn't with Space Ritual and I have to admit that I would happy never to another Psychedelic Warlords space ritual flyer. Alan has every right to play the songs but the Youtube videos seem quite uninspired, but his own back catalogue is full of gems. On 24 August 2013 14:05, In secure ET wrote: > On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > I don't have records, but have some kind of copy of most of Nik's stuff. > :) > > I knew everything with you the whole time. I know you likely have more > HW music than I can ever catch up to now. > I apologise for refrering to you as LJ here, hopefully you know that > was an accident. > > > > *Fallen Angel* is good but *Time Crypt* is rather predictable, but I am > > still hoping the album will be some of his best. > > If that was the vid with the walking dead, I think I might like it > better in big sound with no visual. > > Maybe we should now create a reference "promo vids" > > I hope all the musicans create ways for us to enjpy them without > strain on them or us. > Ultimately they are all so delightful overall. > In Nik's case I think it would be plenty exciting to go see him wirh a > show of new material and not have anything centered on the old stuff > It sure was nice to hear his flute blooming off the wax > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 02:48:08 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (In secure ET) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:48:08 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/24/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > I can't catch up with it either. I don't mind LJ at all, especially with > the sad demise of the inventor of that character. gosh thanks for this tidbit. I didn't know I've been wanting to make a remark about lemmy having to find a new way to die I hope it will "sit" here and now :) > 'Promo videos' is a good name. I don't really watch them, just listen. I > would love to see Nik doing new material too. I wonder if it will happen? They really need to make dialup cheaper again :) > It didn't with Space Ritual and I have to admit that I would happy never to > another Psychedelic Warlords space ritual flyer. Alan has every right to > play the songs but the Youtube videos seem quite uninspired, but his own > back catalogue is full of gems. painful for me to think about. I've got to write a book or something :) :) If I were Nik I would be going after the Jimi Hendrix name instead :) I want masks and masques and "can we really......" (at least it rhymes with silly) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 02:57:16 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (In secure ET) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:57:16 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Of course i meant "challenging the Jimi Hendrix:name" if it there need be any challenging Maybe he could say "he was going to join my band", I am Nik Turner, thrice great :) I'm going to take my sedative now and crawl under the bed. I haven't hid under there is quite a while. It seems time. On 8/24/13, In secure ET wrote: > On 8/24/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> I can't catch up with it either. I don't mind LJ at all, especially with >> the sad demise of the inventor of that character. > > gosh thanks for this tidbit. I didn't know > I've been wanting to make a remark about lemmy having to find a new > way to die I hope it will "sit" here and now :) > > > >> 'Promo videos' is a good name. I don't really watch them, just listen. I >> would love to see Nik doing new material too. I wonder if it will happen? > > They really need to make dialup cheaper again :) > >> It didn't with Space Ritual and I have to admit that I would happy never >> to >> another Psychedelic Warlords space ritual flyer. Alan has every right >> to >> play the songs but the Youtube videos seem quite uninspired, but his own >> back catalogue is full of gems. > > painful for me to think about. > I've got to write a book or something :) :) > > If I were Nik I would be going after the Jimi Hendrix name instead :) > > I want masks and masques and "can we really......" > (at least it rhymes with silly) > From martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM Sat Aug 24 04:12:09 2013 From: martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM (martyn white) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:12:09 -0700 Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <1338955066.26408.YahooMailNeo@web162405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Spam detection software, running on the system "www.ispnetinc.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. 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If you wish to view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Aug 24 07:56:11 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 07:56:11 -0400 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I hope Bun Bun doesn't mind your hiding under the bed. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of In secure ET Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) Of course i meant "challenging the Jimi Hendrix:name" if it there need be any challenging Maybe he could say "he was going to join my band", I am Nik Turner, thrice great :) I'm going to take my sedative now and crawl under the bed. I haven't hid under there is quite a while. It seems time. On 8/24/13, In secure ET wrote: > On 8/24/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> I can't catch up with it either. I don't mind LJ at all, especially >> with the sad demise of the inventor of that character. > > gosh thanks for this tidbit. I didn't know I've been wanting to make a > remark about lemmy having to find a new way to die I hope it will > "sit" here and now :) > > > >> 'Promo videos' is a good name. I don't really watch them, just >> listen. I would love to see Nik doing new material too. I wonder if it will happen? > > They really need to make dialup cheaper again :) > >> It didn't with Space Ritual and I have to admit that I would happy >> never to another Psychedelic Warlords space ritual flyer. Alan has >> every right to play the songs but the Youtube videos seem quite >> uninspired, but his own back catalogue is full of gems. > > painful for me to think about. > I've got to write a book or something :) :) > > If I were Nik I would be going after the Jimi Hendrix name instead :) > > I want masks and masques and "can we really......" > (at least it rhymes with silly) > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Aug 24 07:56:46 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 07:56:46 -0400 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: you guys got to play stars that play.... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of In secure ET Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) Of course i meant "challenging the Jimi Hendrix:name" if it there need be any challenging Maybe he could say "he was going to join my band", I am Nik Turner, thrice great :) I'm going to take my sedative now and crawl under the bed. I haven't hid under there is quite a while. It seems time. On 8/24/13, In secure ET wrote: > On 8/24/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> I can't catch up with it either. I don't mind LJ at all, especially >> with the sad demise of the inventor of that character. > > gosh thanks for this tidbit. I didn't know I've been wanting to make a > remark about lemmy having to find a new way to die I hope it will > "sit" here and now :) > > > >> 'Promo videos' is a good name. I don't really watch them, just >> listen. I would love to see Nik doing new material too. I wonder if it will happen? > > They really need to make dialup cheaper again :) > >> It didn't with Space Ritual and I have to admit that I would happy >> never to another Psychedelic Warlords space ritual flyer. Alan has >> every right to play the songs but the Youtube videos seem quite >> uninspired, but his own back catalogue is full of gems. > > painful for me to think about. > I've got to write a book or something :) :) > > If I were Nik I would be going after the Jimi Hendrix name instead :) > > I want masks and masques and "can we really......" > (at least it rhymes with silly) > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Aug 24 08:03:50 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:03:50 -0400 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: just heard Fallen Angel, sounds real good, nice sound engineering, too. Thanks, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:55 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) I don't have records, but have some kind of copy of most of Nik's stuff. :) *Fallen Angel* is good but *Time Crypt* is rather predictable, but I am still hoping the album will be some of his best. As for dream *Dream-- *less interesting on the surface. Jerry Richards. Adrian Shaw, Harvey and Ron Tree have produced a lot of material over the years so who knows? On 24 August 2013 02:10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 23 Aug 2013, at 13:02 , Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OytZekcZst4 > > I like it. I've certainly heard worse from the HW camp. :) > > But, yes, admittedly "Time Crypt" is less promising .... > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Aug 24 08:08:39 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:08:39 -0400 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: <1E78E90B-F3FF-4600-8EC8-0E4B95CB6CFF@carlaz.com> Message-ID: that would be nice, . Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:04 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) On 23 Aug 2013, at 08:54 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? I've been given to understand that a live album is supposed to happen/have been recorded, but who knows about a studio album (or what Alan is otherwise up to musicwise, away from the live circuit)? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Aug 24 08:12:13 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 08:12:13 -0400 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks for the links. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:55 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) I have* tons* of Nik Turner stuff! ;) Second Nik track, TIME CRYPT : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwJSAEh7Uc. *We are One* by the 'Hawlords' has some good tracks. There is another one coming: *Dream*: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5zxNtViNCA I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? On 23 August 2013 21:32, microfilaria wrote: > On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy > > Nik`s albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the > > second seems > more > > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing > > new material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. > > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: > > > Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? > But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") Please educate me on > these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to track down > > > edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I like > it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) > From richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 09:34:36 2013 From: richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:34:36 +0100 Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <03BB3AB4D4944BA9B6FA26FF3EE29DEC@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: I'll just leave this here then, shall I? https://myspace.com/williamshatnermusic/music/song/silver-machine-84111507-92863441 :-) Cheers, Rich. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, mary ann sullivan < maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote: > I hope our good Captain removed it, granted it was funny for a few seconds. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of martyn white > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:12 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: Silver Machine - William Shatner > > Spam detection software, running on the system "www.ispnetinc.net", has > identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has > been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label > similar > future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that > system for details. > > Content preview: So, Shatner's Silver Machine has been removed from > YouTube, > bummer. Who did that? 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If you wish to view it, it may > be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 11:48:43 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:48:43 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: <430033EE5CC74529A2C07A24320D5208@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: I wonder if Nik the Atlantean knows what happened in the pyramids and realises the power of his flute :) :) I'll have the hendrix thing worked out in no time On 8/24/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > thanks for the links. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of Jonathan Smith > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:55 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) > > I have* tons* of Nik Turner stuff! ;) > > Second Nik track, TIME CRYPT : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwJSAEh7Uc. > > *We are One* by the 'Hawlords' has some good tracks. There is another one > coming: *Dream*: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5zxNtViNCA > > I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? > > > On 23 August 2013 21:32, microfilaria wrote: > >> On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy >> > Nik`s albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the >> > second seems >> more >> > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing >> > new material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. >> > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: >> >> >> Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? >> But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") Please educate me on >> these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to track down >> >> >> edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I like >> it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 11:51:18 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:51:18 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm pretty sure the language of light contains sound frequency On 8/24/13, mike c wrote: > I wonder if Nik the Atlantean knows what happened in the pyramids and > realises the power of his flute :) :) > > I'll have the hendrix thing worked out in no time > > > On 8/24/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> thanks for the links. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Jonathan Smith >> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:55 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) >> >> I have* tons* of Nik Turner stuff! ;) >> >> Second Nik track, TIME CRYPT : >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwJSAEh7Uc. >> >> *We are One* by the 'Hawlords' has some good tracks. There is another one >> coming: *Dream*: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5zxNtViNCA >> >> I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? >> >> >> On 23 August 2013 21:32, microfilaria wrote: >> >>> On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >>> > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy >>> > Nik`s albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the >>> > second seems >>> more >>> > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing >>> > new material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. >>> > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: >>> >>> >>> Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? >>> But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") Please educate me on >>> these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to track down >>> >>> >>> edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I like >>> it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) >>> >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 13:05:40 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:05:40 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: the information comes just about instantly. (hihihihi) I guess rasiing the state of human vibration can certainly be achieved with Nik's exhalations. Jimi's been very busy since leaving this material plane, and how strange a new sphinx with Nik's image :) On 8/24/13, mike c wrote: > I'm pretty sure the language of light contains sound frequency > > On 8/24/13, mike c wrote: >> I wonder if Nik the Atlantean knows what happened in the pyramids and >> realises the power of his flute :) :) >> >> I'll have the hendrix thing worked out in no time >> >> >> On 8/24/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >>> thanks for the links. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Jonathan Smith >>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:55 AM >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) >>> >>> I have* tons* of Nik Turner stuff! ;) >>> >>> Second Nik track, TIME CRYPT : >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwJSAEh7Uc. >>> >>> *We are One* by the 'Hawlords' has some good tracks. There is another >>> one >>> coming: *Dream*: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5zxNtViNCA >>> >>> I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? >>> >>> >>> On 23 August 2013 21:32, microfilaria wrote: >>> >>>> On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>> > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy >>>> > Nik`s albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the >>>> > second seems >>>> more >>>> > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords producing >>>> > new material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. >>>> > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? >>>> But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") Please educate me on >>>> these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to track down >>>> >>>> >>>> edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I like >>>> it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) >>>> >>> >> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Aug 24 13:15:49 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 13:15:49 -0400 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: can you help translate? Mike, let's hook up later, I have stuff to do right now, housework and all that. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:51 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) I'm pretty sure the language of light contains sound frequency On 8/24/13, mike c wrote: > I wonder if Nik the Atlantean knows what happened in the pyramids and > realises the power of his flute :) :) > > I'll have the hendrix thing worked out in no time > > > On 8/24/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> thanks for the links. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Jonathan Smith >> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:55 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) >> >> I have* tons* of Nik Turner stuff! ;) >> >> Second Nik track, TIME CRYPT : >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwJSAEh7Uc. >> >> *We are One* by the 'Hawlords' has some good tracks. There is another >> one >> coming: *Dream*: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5zxNtViNCA >> >> I wonder if the 'Psychedelic Warlords' will make an original album? >> >> >> On 23 August 2013 21:32, microfilaria wrote: >> >>> On 8/23/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >>> > Yeah. Let`s face it. Who else but Hawkwind fans are going to buy >>> > Nik`s albums? The first single seemed to promise a lot, but the >>> > second seems >>> more >>> > forgettable but OK. Both Nik and the ... ahem... Hawklords >>> > producing new material.As long as some of it is good, I`m happy. >>> > On 23 Aug 2013 20:06, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: >>> >>> >>> Wow Jonathan, you've got Thoth(ppm)/ Lunar sea?? >>> But seriously, I'm "old" ....(or, erm,. "stale") Please educate me >>> on these singles I haven't heard...and maybe need to track down >>> >>> >>> edit: I've now heard the Hawklords unrelated to mark 1 CD, and I >>> like it for what should be obvious reasons :) :) >>> >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 13:28:12 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:28:12 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/24/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > can you help translate? Mike, let's hook up later, I have stuff to do > right yes mike coleman = nutjob bit i'm happy this way!!! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 13:55:16 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:55:16 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: better answer for mary thoth's flute :) sound, key, SEE On 8/24/13, mike c wrote: > On 8/24/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> can you help translate? Mike, let's hook up later, I have stuff to do >> right > > > yes > > mike coleman = nutjob > bit i'm happy this way!!! > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Aug 24 22:08:24 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:08:24 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 24 Aug 2013, at 01:18 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > 'Promo videos' is a good name. I don't really watch them, just listen. I > would love to see Nik doing new material too. I wonder if it will happen? I'm given to understand that YouTube is one of the major ways that people encounter new music now. The technology -- or at least the way that some technology or the other gets used -- keeps marching on! I suppose even I have to admit that I discovered the marvelous Red Fang via YouTube, so I can hardly grumble like an old timer about it! > It didn't with Space Ritual and I have to admit that I would happy never to > another Psychedelic Warlords space ritual flyer. Alan has every right to > play the songs but the Youtube videos seem quite uninspired, but his own > back catalogue is full of gems. I've heard mixed things about the Psych Warlords shows, and the best I can say is that YouTube camera phone videos seldom make anyone look good. I fully agree that Alan has a very strong back catalogue, and I would rather see him doing his own stuff, new and old (not that this is likely to be an option!). Though I also know full well that back when he was doing Bedouin, the "second shift" as a Mot?rhead cover was bringing in more cash. Such is show biz. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 22:15:34 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 10:15:34 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: <1BFC5EE0-C8F0-4B12-B876-6FF9D7BB1AFC@carlaz.com> Message-ID: It is about money. Today I saw a Facebook page for Nik Turner (ex-HAWKWIND) doing his Space Ritual in the US. And so it goes on. On 25 August 2013 10:08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 24 Aug 2013, at 01:18 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > 'Promo videos' is a good name. I don't really watch them, just listen. I > > would love to see Nik doing new material too. I wonder if it will happen? > > > I'm given to understand that YouTube is one of the major ways that people > encounter new music now. The technology -- or at least the way that some > technology or the other gets used -- keeps marching on! > > I suppose even I have to admit that I discovered the marvelous Red Fang > via YouTube, so I can hardly grumble like an old timer about it! > > > It didn't with Space Ritual and I have to admit that I would happy never > to > > another Psychedelic Warlords space ritual flyer. Alan has every right > to > > play the songs but the Youtube videos seem quite uninspired, but his own > > back catalogue is full of gems. > > > I've heard mixed things about the Psych Warlords shows, and the best I can > say is that YouTube camera phone videos seldom make anyone look good. I > fully agree that Alan has a very strong back catalogue, and I would rather > see him doing his own stuff, new and old (not that this is likely to be an > option!). Though I also know full well that back when he was doing > Bedouin, the "second shift" as a Mot?rhead cover was bringing in more cash. > Such is show biz. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 22:30:27 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:30:27 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/24/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > It is about money. Today I saw a Facebook page for Nik Turner (ex-HAWKWIND) > doing his Space Ritual in the US. And so it goes on. If I were to guess, and that is what I'm doing, I think that is kinda okay as long as it's got the EX, and I imagine Nik can just never be fashioned in a way Dave is going to actually like. Can't be adverstised on Hawkwind's forum, etc. Seems to me like the guys struck their own chord and "Nik Turner's Timewind" sounds cool to me. Like you said, so it goes, and if Nik would just push hard..... his name has power on it's own and he could move more and more away from that (I think) if he stays alive and up for it From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 24 22:41:21 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 10:41:21 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I remember seeing the Xhawkwind poster in the UK which caused a lot of offence. I remember NOT going as I knew quite well it was not Hawkwind.... Better to ignore it all and focus on the new stuff. Alan is doing a second *Al Chemical* album-- maybe what he wants to do. Excellent in my book but probably not a money spinner. On 25 August 2013 10:30, mike c wrote: > On 8/24/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > It is about money. Today I saw a Facebook page for Nik Turner > (ex-HAWKWIND) > > doing his Space Ritual in the US. And so it goes on. > > If I were to guess, and that is what I'm doing, I think that is kinda > okay as long as it's got the EX, and I imagine Nik can just never be > fashioned in a way Dave is going to actually like. > > Can't be adverstised on Hawkwind's forum, etc. > > Seems to me like the guys struck their own chord and "Nik Turner's > Timewind" sounds cool to me. > > Like you said, so it goes, and if Nik would just push hard..... his > name has power on it's own and he could move more and more away from > that (I think) if he stays alive and up for it > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Aug 24 22:56:48 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:56:48 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 24 Aug 2013, at 21:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Better to ignore it all and focus on the new stuff. > Alan is doing a second *Al Chemical* album-- maybe what he wants to > do. Excellent in my book but probably not a money spinner. IMO, Alan needs if not a stable band around him, at least some stable songwriting partners. Al's playing is great, and he is capable of writing some absolute corkers -- but I don't think he comes out with enough of those corkers, fast enough, to just blow everyone's and their dog's minds often enough. Maybe it doesn't really matter, since the music industry is so screwed up these days (I mean, more than ever) any way, but I always feel like his efforts end up too diffused: Bedouin somehow wobbled around for years in the '90s, straight through the whole original stoner rock trend (which they totally should have exploited) without ever producing very much. Gunslinger is sort of on again, off again, with variant lineups. His solo stuff is similar. Then there are his cover bands, like the Motorhead thing and the Psych Warlords; I guess those pay the bills (or why do them?) but you can put me down as another person who wants to hear something new. His guesting on the last Pre-Med album generated some fantastic playing, but he was really just a pinch-hitter there. Oh well! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Aug 25 00:30:36 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:30:36 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: With the SRS live album he seemed to have got somewhere but maybe there wad not enough support to keep it going.... Bedouin seemed like it might do something, although I prefer his later albums. They are not that consistent. Maybe there isn't too much market for space rock? Shame, I am sure the world needs more of it :? On 25 Aug 2013 10:58, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: > On 24 Aug 2013, at 21:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > Better to ignore it all and focus on the new stuff. > > Alan is doing a second *Al Chemical* album-- maybe what he wants to > > do. Excellent in my book but probably not a money spinner. > > IMO, Alan needs if not a stable band around him, at least some stable > songwriting partners. Al's playing is great, and he is capable of writing > some absolute corkers -- but I don't think he comes out with enough of > those corkers, fast enough, to just blow everyone's and their dog's minds > often enough. Maybe it doesn't really matter, since the music industry is > so screwed up these days (I mean, more than ever) any way, but I always > feel like his efforts end up too diffused: Bedouin somehow wobbled around > for years in the '90s, straight through the whole original stoner rock > trend (which they totally should have exploited) without ever producing > very much. Gunslinger is sort of on again, off again, with variant lineups. > His solo stuff is similar. Then there are his cover bands, like the > Motorhead thing and the Psych Warlords; I guess those pay the bills (or why > do them?) but you can put me down as another person who wants to hear > something new. His guesting on the last Pre-! > Med album generated some fantastic playing, but he was really just a > pinch-hitter there. Oh well! > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Aug 25 12:45:43 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:45:43 -0500 Subject: (OFF OFF OFF) Mike c wants into Mary's bank account NOW Message-ID: On 8/24/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > I hope Bun Bun doesn't mind your hiding under the bed. There is no under the bed. I have to create it and I'm pretty sure that much weight wouldn't be good for him, fat as he is <<>> From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 26 08:34:28 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 07:34:28 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 24 Aug 2013, at 23:30 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > With the SRS live album he seemed to have got somewhere but maybe there wad > not enough support to keep it going.... > Bedouin seemed like it might do something, although I prefer his later > albums. They are not that consistent. Maybe there isn't too much market for > space rock? Shame, I am sure the world needs more of it :? I sort of classify all of Alan's solo projects as "Alan's solo projects" regardless of how they are billed. ;) There's stuff I like from (obviously enough) his HW tenure through Captured Rotation and on through the relative present with Eclectic Devils, but he tends to have a great songs scattered here and there (IMO) instead of consistently great albums -- or a consistently great album or two. If you took all of Al's best stuff, _that_ would be a pretty great album. :) I realize that he's probably sunning on a shoe-string, and musicians with whom one might work are flaky, and some cover-band stuff will pay the bills, but ... Oh well! Anyway, I think we can assume that there isn't much market for space-rock ;) though there seems to have been a renaissance in stoner rock in recent years. (Not that I suspect this translates into huge revenues for anyone ...) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 09:09:22 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 21:09:22 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of really good tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see him play covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen obviously. I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was small even in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with Capt Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... On 26 Aug 2013 20:36, "Carl Edlund Anderson" wrote: > On 24 Aug 2013, at 23:30 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > With the SRS live album he seemed to have got somewhere but maybe there > wad > > not enough support to keep it going.... > > Bedouin seemed like it might do something, although I prefer his later > > albums. They are not that consistent. Maybe there isn't too much market > for > > space rock? Shame, I am sure the world needs more of it :? > > I sort of classify all of Alan's solo projects as "Alan's solo projects" > regardless of how they are billed. ;) There's stuff I like from (obviously > enough) his HW tenure through Captured Rotation and on through the relative > present with Eclectic Devils, but he tends to have a great songs scattered > here and there (IMO) instead of consistently great albums -- or a > consistently great album or two. If you took all of Al's best stuff, > _that_ would be a pretty great album. :) I realize that he's probably > sunning on a shoe-string, and musicians with whom one might work are flaky, > and some cover-band stuff will pay the bills, but ... Oh well! > > Anyway, I think we can assume that there isn't much market for space-rock > ;) though there seems to have been a renaissance in stoner rock in recent > years. (Not that I suspect this translates into huge revenues for anyone > ...) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 26 10:04:57 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:04:57 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 26 Aug 2013, at 08:09 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of really good > tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see him play > covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen obviously. +1, here! > I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was small even > in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with Capt > Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... That may be -- I think the ongoing growth of the Internet and social media have helped re-kindle interest in fans that might otherwise have lost it, as well as helped the genre reach new fans. I don't think we're looking at space-rock bands about to produce Top 10 singles ;) but .... Still, touring the Captain Lockheed album ... I think it would be cool if they reproduced on the theatrical bits on stage :) but basically this is going to revolve around playing "The Right Stuff", "Aerospaceage Inferno", and "Ejection", no? Not that there's anything at all, wrong with that, but .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 10:42:06 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:42:06 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At least you can actually buy obscure spacer rock psychedelia now and Cds are cheap to produce. Capt Lockheed was unique-- a huge cast of characters and famous people. Bob Calvert didn't manage to tour with it, for whatever reasons. Bob Calvert is impossible to really imitate (although Ron Tree did his vocals pretty well), but all comedy sketches.... Nobody can even remotely sound like Viv Stanshall, and I doubt Arthur Brown will turn up. Do we need more covers of the The Right Stuff with the inevitable sample of Viv Stanshall? It might be OK live, however. On 26 August 2013 22:04, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 26 Aug 2013, at 08:09 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of really > good > > tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see him play > > covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen > obviously. > > +1, here! > > > I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was small > even > > in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with Capt > > Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... > > That may be -- I think the ongoing growth of the Internet and social media > have helped re-kindle interest in fans that might otherwise have lost it, > as well as helped the genre reach new fans. I don't think we're looking at > space-rock bands about to produce Top 10 singles ;) but .... > > Still, touring the Captain Lockheed album ... I think it would be cool if > they reproduced on the theatrical bits on stage :) but basically this is > going to revolve around playing "The Right Stuff", "Aerospaceage Inferno", > and "Ejection", no? Not that there's anything at all, wrong with that, but > .... > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 10:53:48 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:53:48 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd appreciate anything about Viv Stanshall. I inherited a copy of Tubular Bells recently, and got to hear that after decades of hearing about it. I basically hate it but it certainly isn't Viv's fault :) :) and I can't remember if I asked here before, but Alan's "Captured Rotation" is a somewhat cherished recording to me, but the original CD seems like it suffers dramatically in mastering, whatever it is that makes the sound "thin". has that been repaired and I bet an LP could do wonders On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > At least you can actually buy obscure spacer rock psychedelia now and > Cds are cheap to produce. > > Capt Lockheed was unique-- a huge cast of characters and famous people. Bob > Calvert didn't manage to tour with it, for whatever reasons. Bob Calvert is > impossible to really imitate (although Ron Tree did his vocals pretty > well), but all comedy sketches.... Nobody can even remotely sound like > Viv Stanshall, and I doubt Arthur Brown will turn up. Do we need more > covers of the The Right Stuff with the inevitable sample of Viv Stanshall? > It might be OK live, however. > > > On 26 August 2013 22:04, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> On 26 Aug 2013, at 08:09 , Jonathan Smith wrote: >> > >> > I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of really >> good >> > tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see him >> > play >> > covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen >> obviously. >> >> +1, here! >> >> > I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was small >> even >> > in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with Capt >> > Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... >> >> That may be -- I think the ongoing growth of the Internet and social >> media >> have helped re-kindle interest in fans that might otherwise have lost it, >> as well as helped the genre reach new fans. I don't think we're looking >> at >> space-rock bands about to produce Top 10 singles ;) but .... >> >> Still, touring the Captain Lockheed album ... I think it would be cool if >> they reproduced on the theatrical bits on stage :) but basically this is >> going to revolve around playing "The Right Stuff", "Aerospaceage >> Inferno", >> and "Ejection", no? Not that there's anything at all, wrong with that, >> but >> .... >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 11:10:06 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:10:06 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You have to be in the mood for Viv Stanshall, but he was a genius. Everything he recorded is available through http://www.vivarchive.org.uk/ or was at one time. I have a couple of DVDs full of his unique humour. *Captured Rotation *is very good, but the sound (not the music) is a little off somehow. *Cyber Tooth* is excellent but I can't see him touring with it. On 26 August 2013 22:53, mike c wrote: > I'd appreciate anything about Viv Stanshall. > I inherited a copy of Tubular Bells recently, and got to hear that > after decades of hearing about it. > I basically hate it but it certainly isn't Viv's fault :) :) > > and > > I can't remember if I asked here before, but Alan's "Captured > Rotation" is a somewhat cherished recording to me, but the original CD > seems like it suffers dramatically in mastering, whatever it is that > makes the sound "thin". > has that been repaired and I bet an LP could do wonders > > On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > At least you can actually buy obscure spacer rock psychedelia now and > > Cds are cheap to produce. > > > > Capt Lockheed was unique-- a huge cast of characters and famous people. > Bob > > Calvert didn't manage to tour with it, for whatever reasons. Bob Calvert > is > > impossible to really imitate (although Ron Tree did his vocals pretty > > well), but all comedy sketches.... Nobody can even remotely sound like > > Viv Stanshall, and I doubt Arthur Brown will turn up. Do we need more > > covers of the The Right Stuff with the inevitable sample of Viv > Stanshall? > > It might be OK live, however. > > > > > > On 26 August 2013 22:04, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > >> On 26 Aug 2013, at 08:09 , Jonathan Smith > wrote: > >> > > >> > I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of really > >> good > >> > tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see him > >> > play > >> > covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen > >> obviously. > >> > >> +1, here! > >> > >> > I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was small > >> even > >> > in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with Capt > >> > Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... > >> > >> That may be -- I think the ongoing growth of the Internet and social > >> media > >> have helped re-kindle interest in fans that might otherwise have lost > it, > >> as well as helped the genre reach new fans. I don't think we're looking > >> at > >> space-rock bands about to produce Top 10 singles ;) but .... > >> > >> Still, touring the Captain Lockheed album ... I think it would be cool > if > >> they reproduced on the theatrical bits on stage :) but basically this is > >> going to revolve around playing "The Right Stuff", "Aerospaceage > >> Inferno", > >> and "Ejection", no? Not that there's anything at all, wrong with that, > >> but > >> .... > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Carl > >> > >> -- > >> Carl Edlund Anderson > >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > >> > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 11:17:25 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:17:25 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks Jonathon, I did quickly go look at wiki but it's too early and I seem to get less and less sleep so I must take it back up later. Just for the record I do have a couple of Beduin CDs and a couple of Alan Davey CD's which are all basically great IMO, I am simply missing a ton of his material now. thanks for the Cybertip NOTED!! On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > You have to be in the mood for Viv Stanshall, but he was a genius. > Everything he recorded is available through > > http://www.vivarchive.org.uk/ > > or was at one time. I have a couple of DVDs full of his unique humour. > > *Captured Rotation *is very good, but the sound (not the music) is a > little off somehow. *Cyber Tooth* is excellent but I can't see him touring > with it. > > > On 26 August 2013 22:53, mike c wrote: > >> I'd appreciate anything about Viv Stanshall. >> I inherited a copy of Tubular Bells recently, and got to hear that >> after decades of hearing about it. >> I basically hate it but it certainly isn't Viv's fault :) :) >> >> and >> >> I can't remember if I asked here before, but Alan's "Captured >> Rotation" is a somewhat cherished recording to me, but the original CD >> seems like it suffers dramatically in mastering, whatever it is that >> makes the sound "thin". >> has that been repaired and I bet an LP could do wonders >> >> On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> > At least you can actually buy obscure spacer rock psychedelia now >> > and >> > Cds are cheap to produce. >> > >> > Capt Lockheed was unique-- a huge cast of characters and famous people. >> Bob >> > Calvert didn't manage to tour with it, for whatever reasons. Bob >> > Calvert >> is >> > impossible to really imitate (although Ron Tree did his vocals pretty >> > well), but all comedy sketches.... Nobody can even remotely sound >> > like >> > Viv Stanshall, and I doubt Arthur Brown will turn up. Do we need more >> > covers of the The Right Stuff with the inevitable sample of Viv >> Stanshall? >> > It might be OK live, however. >> > >> > >> > On 26 August 2013 22:04, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> > >> >> On 26 Aug 2013, at 08:09 , Jonathan Smith >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of >> >> > really >> >> good >> >> > tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see him >> >> > play >> >> > covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen >> >> obviously. >> >> >> >> +1, here! >> >> >> >> > I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was >> >> > small >> >> even >> >> > in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with Capt >> >> > Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... >> >> >> >> That may be -- I think the ongoing growth of the Internet and social >> >> media >> >> have helped re-kindle interest in fans that might otherwise have lost >> it, >> >> as well as helped the genre reach new fans. I don't think we're >> >> looking >> >> at >> >> space-rock bands about to produce Top 10 singles ;) but .... >> >> >> >> Still, touring the Captain Lockheed album ... I think it would be cool >> if >> >> they reproduced on the theatrical bits on stage :) but basically this >> >> is >> >> going to revolve around playing "The Right Stuff", "Aerospaceage >> >> Inferno", >> >> and "Ejection", no? Not that there's anything at all, wrong with >> >> that, >> >> but >> >> .... >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Carl >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> >> >> > >> > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 11:28:53 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:28:53 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alan's web site/ store has gone. I suppose it will be back sometime soon. In the meantime, there is this: https://myspace.com/alandaveymusic On 26 August 2013 23:17, mike c wrote: > thanks Jonathon, I did quickly go look at wiki but it's too early and > I seem to get less and less sleep so I must take it back up later. > > Just for the record I do have a couple of Beduin CDs and a couple of > Alan Davey CD's which are all basically great IMO, I am simply missing > a ton of his material now. > thanks for the Cybertip > NOTED!! > > On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > You have to be in the mood for Viv Stanshall, but he was a genius. > > Everything he recorded is available through > > > > http://www.vivarchive.org.uk/ > > > > or was at one time. I have a couple of DVDs full of his unique humour. > > > > *Captured Rotation *is very good, but the sound (not the music) is a > > little off somehow. *Cyber Tooth* is excellent but I can't see him > touring > > with it. > > > > > > On 26 August 2013 22:53, mike c wrote: > > > >> I'd appreciate anything about Viv Stanshall. > >> I inherited a copy of Tubular Bells recently, and got to hear that > >> after decades of hearing about it. > >> I basically hate it but it certainly isn't Viv's fault :) :) > >> > >> and > >> > >> I can't remember if I asked here before, but Alan's "Captured > >> Rotation" is a somewhat cherished recording to me, but the original CD > >> seems like it suffers dramatically in mastering, whatever it is that > >> makes the sound "thin". > >> has that been repaired and I bet an LP could do wonders > >> > >> On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> > At least you can actually buy obscure spacer rock psychedelia now > >> > and > >> > Cds are cheap to produce. > >> > > >> > Capt Lockheed was unique-- a huge cast of characters and famous > people. > >> Bob > >> > Calvert didn't manage to tour with it, for whatever reasons. Bob > >> > Calvert > >> is > >> > impossible to really imitate (although Ron Tree did his vocals pretty > >> > well), but all comedy sketches.... Nobody can even remotely sound > >> > like > >> > Viv Stanshall, and I doubt Arthur Brown will turn up. Do we need more > >> > covers of the The Right Stuff with the inevitable sample of Viv > >> Stanshall? > >> > It might be OK live, however. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 26 August 2013 22:04, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> > > >> >> On 26 Aug 2013, at 08:09 , Jonathan Smith > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of > >> >> > really > >> >> good > >> >> > tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see > him > >> >> > play > >> >> > covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen > >> >> obviously. > >> >> > >> >> +1, here! > >> >> > >> >> > I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was > >> >> > small > >> >> even > >> >> > in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with Capt > >> >> > Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... > >> >> > >> >> That may be -- I think the ongoing growth of the Internet and social > >> >> media > >> >> have helped re-kindle interest in fans that might otherwise have lost > >> it, > >> >> as well as helped the genre reach new fans. I don't think we're > >> >> looking > >> >> at > >> >> space-rock bands about to produce Top 10 singles ;) but .... > >> >> > >> >> Still, touring the Captain Lockheed album ... I think it would be > cool > >> if > >> >> they reproduced on the theatrical bits on stage :) but basically this > >> >> is > >> >> going to revolve around playing "The Right Stuff", "Aerospaceage > >> >> Inferno", > >> >> and "Ejection", no? Not that there's anything at all, wrong with > >> >> that, > >> >> but > >> >> .... > >> >> > >> >> Cheers, > >> >> Carl > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Carl Edlund Anderson > >> >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 11:36:41 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:36:41 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd be _SO_, _SO_, amused if Alan switched to flute and started billing himself as "the conscious of Hawkwind" :) :) spraying air freshner On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Alan's web site/ store has gone. I suppose it will be back sometime soon. > > In the meantime, there is this: https://myspace.com/alandaveymusic > > > On 26 August 2013 23:17, mike c wrote: > >> thanks Jonathon, I did quickly go look at wiki but it's too early and >> I seem to get less and less sleep so I must take it back up later. >> >> Just for the record I do have a couple of Beduin CDs and a couple of >> Alan Davey CD's which are all basically great IMO, I am simply missing >> a ton of his material now. >> thanks for the Cybertip >> NOTED!! >> >> On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> > You have to be in the mood for Viv Stanshall, but he was a genius. >> > Everything he recorded is available through >> > >> > http://www.vivarchive.org.uk/ >> > >> > or was at one time. I have a couple of DVDs full of his unique humour. >> > >> > *Captured Rotation *is very good, but the sound (not the music) is a >> > little off somehow. *Cyber Tooth* is excellent but I can't see him >> touring >> > with it. >> > >> > >> > On 26 August 2013 22:53, mike c wrote: >> > >> >> I'd appreciate anything about Viv Stanshall. >> >> I inherited a copy of Tubular Bells recently, and got to hear that >> >> after decades of hearing about it. >> >> I basically hate it but it certainly isn't Viv's fault :) :) >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> I can't remember if I asked here before, but Alan's "Captured >> >> Rotation" is a somewhat cherished recording to me, but the original CD >> >> seems like it suffers dramatically in mastering, whatever it is that >> >> makes the sound "thin". >> >> has that been repaired and I bet an LP could do wonders >> >> >> >> On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> >> > At least you can actually buy obscure spacer rock psychedelia >> >> > now >> >> > and >> >> > Cds are cheap to produce. >> >> > >> >> > Capt Lockheed was unique-- a huge cast of characters and famous >> people. >> >> Bob >> >> > Calvert didn't manage to tour with it, for whatever reasons. Bob >> >> > Calvert >> >> is >> >> > impossible to really imitate (although Ron Tree did his vocals >> >> > pretty >> >> > well), but all comedy sketches.... Nobody can even remotely sound >> >> > like >> >> > Viv Stanshall, and I doubt Arthur Brown will turn up. Do we need >> >> > more >> >> > covers of the The Right Stuff with the inevitable sample of Viv >> >> Stanshall? >> >> > It might be OK live, however. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 26 August 2013 22:04, Carl Edlund Anderson >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On 26 Aug 2013, at 08:09 , Jonathan Smith >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of >> >> >> > really >> >> >> good >> >> >> > tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see >> him >> >> >> > play >> >> >> > covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen >> >> >> obviously. >> >> >> >> >> >> +1, here! >> >> >> >> >> >> > I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was >> >> >> > small >> >> >> even >> >> >> > in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with >> >> >> > Capt >> >> >> > Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... >> >> >> >> >> >> That may be -- I think the ongoing growth of the Internet and >> >> >> social >> >> >> media >> >> >> have helped re-kindle interest in fans that might otherwise have >> >> >> lost >> >> it, >> >> >> as well as helped the genre reach new fans. I don't think we're >> >> >> looking >> >> >> at >> >> >> space-rock bands about to produce Top 10 singles ;) but .... >> >> >> >> >> >> Still, touring the Captain Lockheed album ... I think it would be >> cool >> >> if >> >> >> they reproduced on the theatrical bits on stage :) but basically >> >> >> this >> >> >> is >> >> >> going to revolve around playing "The Right Stuff", "Aerospaceage >> >> >> Inferno", >> >> >> and "Ejection", no? Not that there's anything at all, wrong with >> >> >> that, >> >> >> but >> >> >> .... >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Carl >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> >> >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 11:41:42 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:41:42 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There could be tons of '***** of HW!' What would the naked drummer be called? The Exposure of Hawkwind? On 26 August 2013 23:36, mike c wrote: > I'd be _SO_, _SO_, amused if Alan switched to flute and started > billing himself as "the conscious of Hawkwind" :) :) > > spraying air freshner > > > > On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Alan's web site/ store has gone. I suppose it will be back sometime soon. > > > > In the meantime, there is this: https://myspace.com/alandaveymusic > > > > > > On 26 August 2013 23:17, mike c wrote: > > > >> thanks Jonathon, I did quickly go look at wiki but it's too early and > >> I seem to get less and less sleep so I must take it back up later. > >> > >> Just for the record I do have a couple of Beduin CDs and a couple of > >> Alan Davey CD's which are all basically great IMO, I am simply missing > >> a ton of his material now. > >> thanks for the Cybertip > >> NOTED!! > >> > >> On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> > You have to be in the mood for Viv Stanshall, but he was a genius. > >> > Everything he recorded is available through > >> > > >> > http://www.vivarchive.org.uk/ > >> > > >> > or was at one time. I have a couple of DVDs full of his unique humour. > >> > > >> > *Captured Rotation *is very good, but the sound (not the music) is a > >> > little off somehow. *Cyber Tooth* is excellent but I can't see him > >> touring > >> > with it. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 26 August 2013 22:53, mike c wrote: > >> > > >> >> I'd appreciate anything about Viv Stanshall. > >> >> I inherited a copy of Tubular Bells recently, and got to hear that > >> >> after decades of hearing about it. > >> >> I basically hate it but it certainly isn't Viv's fault :) :) > >> >> > >> >> and > >> >> > >> >> I can't remember if I asked here before, but Alan's "Captured > >> >> Rotation" is a somewhat cherished recording to me, but the original > CD > >> >> seems like it suffers dramatically in mastering, whatever it is that > >> >> makes the sound "thin". > >> >> has that been repaired and I bet an LP could do wonders > >> >> > >> >> On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> >> > At least you can actually buy obscure spacer rock psychedelia > >> >> > now > >> >> > and > >> >> > Cds are cheap to produce. > >> >> > > >> >> > Capt Lockheed was unique-- a huge cast of characters and famous > >> people. > >> >> Bob > >> >> > Calvert didn't manage to tour with it, for whatever reasons. Bob > >> >> > Calvert > >> >> is > >> >> > impossible to really imitate (although Ron Tree did his vocals > >> >> > pretty > >> >> > well), but all comedy sketches.... Nobody can even remotely sound > >> >> > like > >> >> > Viv Stanshall, and I doubt Arthur Brown will turn up. Do we need > >> >> > more > >> >> > covers of the The Right Stuff with the inevitable sample of Viv > >> >> Stanshall? > >> >> > It might be OK live, however. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On 26 August 2013 22:04, Carl Edlund Anderson > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> On 26 Aug 2013, at 08:09 , Jonathan Smith > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I tend to agree. Most of his projects tend to have a couple of > >> >> >> > really > >> >> >> good > >> >> >> > tracks, but admittedly no real classic album. I would go and see > >> him > >> >> >> > play > >> >> >> > covers if he played near where i live but that will never happen > >> >> >> obviously. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> +1, here! > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I remember seeing Bob Calvert with Krankschaft. The audience was > >> >> >> > small > >> >> >> even > >> >> >> > in London yet Alan seems to be confident that he can tour with > >> >> >> > Capt > >> >> >> > Lockheed. Space is slightly more popular than those days... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> That may be -- I think the ongoing growth of the Internet and > >> >> >> social > >> >> >> media > >> >> >> have helped re-kindle interest in fans that might otherwise have > >> >> >> lost > >> >> it, > >> >> >> as well as helped the genre reach new fans. I don't think we're > >> >> >> looking > >> >> >> at > >> >> >> space-rock bands about to produce Top 10 singles ;) but .... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Still, touring the Captain Lockheed album ... I think it would be > >> cool > >> >> if > >> >> >> they reproduced on the theatrical bits on stage :) but basically > >> >> >> this > >> >> >> is > >> >> >> going to revolve around playing "The Right Stuff", "Aerospaceage > >> >> >> Inferno", > >> >> >> and "Ejection", no? Not that there's anything at all, wrong with > >> >> >> that, > >> >> >> but > >> >> >> .... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Cheers, > >> >> >> Carl > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Carl Edlund Anderson > >> >> >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 11:49:36 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 10:49:36 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/26/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > There could be tons of '***** of HW!' > > What would the naked drummer be called? The Exposure of Hawkwind? Terrry!! the "drums of Hawkwind" good one maybe just a stripped down solo act From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 26 12:18:51 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:18:51 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 26 Aug 2013, at 10:28 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Alan's web site/ store has gone. I suppose it will be back sometime soon. > In the meantime, there is this: https://myspace.com/alandaveymusic MySpace!? What year is this ...? ;) Oh, well, anyway the disappearance of Alan's Web site took my by surprise -- it was there as of a month or so ago. Admittedly, he should just set up on Bandcamp, linked to his Facebook page. Soundawesome is all right, too, but not as good as Bandcamp. Soundcloud is great, but musicians like Al can't sell stuff from there. CDBaby is great, too, though I only buy downloads from them (I've increasingly gone off physical media -- heretical, I know, but ...). I think I got a CD of Al's sent to my parents for me from CDBaby before I figured out I could get downloads there, but of course I haven't heard it yet! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 26 12:21:22 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:21:22 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 26 Aug 2013, at 10:10 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > *Captured Rotation *is very good, but the sound (not the music) is a > little off somehow. I think it was an early effort, in some ways -- I mean, most of that stuff at least started as demos for Hawkwind that Brock didn't accept (foolishly, IMO, but, anyway ....). Probably they just got tarted up a bit for release, and: ta da. Admittedly, I am not thrilled with the production/sound on a lot of more recent HW releases, either. Too busy and diffuse, IMO. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 12:27:30 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 00:27:30 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: <54D75274-9335-4AF7-AEAC-845B99454E94@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Hawkwind could have used more of Alan's songs-- and Huw's too. I like the sound of the two Cherry Red CDs but the previous three sounded less clear. I didn't notice that one on CD Baby. CDBaby is good-- especially now they have FLAC downloads. On 27 August 2013 00:21, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 26 Aug 2013, at 10:10 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > *Captured Rotation *is very good, but the sound (not the music) is a > > little off somehow. > > I think it was an early effort, in some ways -- I mean, most of that stuff > at least started as demos for Hawkwind that Brock didn't accept (foolishly, > IMO, but, anyway ....). Probably they just got tarted up a bit for release, > and: ta da. > > Admittedly, I am not thrilled with the production/sound on a lot of more > recent HW releases, either. Too busy and diffuse, IMO. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 26 12:39:39 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 11:39:39 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 26 Aug 2013, at 11:27 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Hawkwind could have used more of Alan's songs-- and Huw's too. +1, again! :) > I like the sound of the two Cherry Red CDs but the previous three sounded > less clear. Yeah, the Cherry Red stuff is a bit better, but someone at Cherry Red has their head screwed on correctly with regards to "how to do special editions", which mean they may have their heads screwed on a bit more with other things. I mean, sure: lots of stuff on the Atomhenge/Cherry Red releases is very "kitchen sink" (there is, I think, a reason some of that stuff stayed as demos or was never released :) ) but they are selling to Mad Kollektors, so you might as well ... :) > I didn't notice that one on CD Baby. CDBaby is good-- especially now they > have FLAC downloads. Amen! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 13:15:42 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:15:42 -0500 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: <54D75274-9335-4AF7-AEAC-845B99454E94@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 8/26/13, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > Admittedly, I am not thrilled with the production/sound on a lot of more > recent HW releases, either. Too busy and diffuse, IMO. yes absolutely-- Alan's, on my equipment, is about the very worst, but for HW proper it goes it's lowest at BOTE. It comes back up with Onward a bit, but both these, for me, cannot be heard properly (yet?)) outside of the wax. and BOTE still not "right" Levels going all over with "Captured" and "BOTE" I dislike making adjustments when I am trying to stare at the speakers :) :) From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Aug 26 16:11:19 2013 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:11:19 -0700 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I spotted this on Facebook.? http://www.thepsychedelicwarlords.com/index.htm From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 26 16:36:34 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:36:34 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <1377547879.88092.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 26 Aug 2013, at 15:11 , gary shindler wrote: > I spotted this on Facebook. > http://www.thepsychedelicwarlords.com/index.htm Yeah, he also just announced his Web site would be back in a new form before long. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Aug 26 16:45:21 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:45:21 -0400 Subject: Greetings Message-ID: Bedouin somehow wobbled around for years in the '90s, straight through the whole original stoner rock trend (which they totally should have exploited) without ever producing very much. Carl, I totally agree. I love the Bedouin material. I wish Alan could have toured with them over in the states. Thanks for posting the info about the new disc, I have it somewhere, but finding the post would have taken forever. I've heard a show, and really enjoyed it. I do have Cyber tooth, and there's a lot of excellent sounding music there. Cheers, Mary From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 21:43:05 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:43:05 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <9706389B-F0AC-48B8-8170-B70290436577@carlaz.com> Message-ID: He has just announced this: Alan Boomer Davey posted in Space Rockers [image: Alan Boomer Davey] Alan Boomer Davey 27 August 03:28 My new web site will be on line in 1-2 days, I will be announcing its launch on here so subscribe to me on FB to know when '-) This new site will also provide downloads directly or via here on FB of released songs which have been re mastered for high quality mp3's. Some rare and unreleased songs will also be on the list. '-) cu soon and cheers to you all for the support over the many years which makes carrying on and building a new web site worth while!! AD ;-) www.alandaveymusic.com Coming Soon - Future home of something quite cool www.alandaveymusic.com On 27 August 2013 04:36, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 26 Aug 2013, at 15:11 , gary shindler wrote: > > I spotted this on Facebook. > > http://www.thepsychedelicwarlords.com/index.htm > > > Yeah, he also just announced his Web site would be back in a new form > before long. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 26 22:19:18 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:19:18 +0800 Subject: Nik wants into all your wallets NOW :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought TMTYL sounded very flat too. Onward not so bad but Stellar and Looking for Love sounded much better. Cherry Red do care about sound. Admittedly some of the bonus material was beyond restoration but I like to hear it most of it. I like demos as they give an insight into what the band was thinking etc. Some of the live versions were redundant. My only compliant would be that listening to the CDs as they were presented you could get three versions of a song within 40 mins which is annoying, but if you rip everything and play via a computer anyway it does not matter. I did ask about lossless downloads I suppose they wanted to sell the real copies. Some record companies see the future, like Rare Noise, a small British based jazz/ alternative label, releases everything new in 24-96 FLAC format and vinyl as well as CD, FLAC and MP3-- to me the first is really the future. HD Tracks now issue stuff in real HD too. On 27 August 2013 01:15, mike c wrote: > On 8/26/13, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > > Admittedly, I am not thrilled with the production/sound on a lot of more > > recent HW releases, either. Too busy and diffuse, IMO. > > yes absolutely-- > Alan's, on my equipment, is about the very worst, but for HW proper it > goes it's lowest at BOTE. > It comes back up with Onward a bit, but both these, for me, cannot be > heard properly (yet?)) outside of the wax. and BOTE still not "right" > > Levels going all over with "Captured" and "BOTE" > I dislike making adjustments when I am trying to stare at the speakers :) > :) > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Aug 27 08:50:35 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:50:35 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On FB Alan Davey wrote: > > This new site will also provide downloads directly or via here on FB of > released songs which have been re mastered for high quality mp3's. I'm dubious about pairing the term "high quality" with the concept of MP3s. ;) I mean, I understand what he intends -- but, seriously: lossless! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 08:55:31 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 20:55:31 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <21DB9E00-38BD-498D-89AC-3E341C257E0D@carlaz.com> Message-ID: That means 320 bps usually-- well well below CD quality. Surely FLAC does not take that much bandwidth. He must have recordings in at least CD quality. On 27 August 2013 20:50, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On FB Alan Davey wrote: > > > > This new site will also provide downloads directly or via here on FB of > > released songs which have been re mastered for high quality mp3's. > > I'm dubious about pairing the term "high quality" with the concept of > MP3s. ;) I mean, I understand what he intends -- but, seriously: lossless! > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Aug 27 09:13:37 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:13:37 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 Aug 2013, at 07:55 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > That means 320 bps usually-- well well below CD quality. Surely FLAC does > not take that much bandwidth. He must have recordings in at least CD > quality. Yeah, but I'm not sure that he is as familiar with the digital music market as he might be. Sure, lots of people just want a random compressed file that they can download and play directly in their phone or whatever. I mean, a well-made AAC or MP3 at 256-320kbps sounds pretty decent in many circumstances. (And better than a 5th-generation cassette copy of something that came of a low-quality record player or commercial radio -- which is the kind of sound quality with which I grew up! ;) But fans especially (and who is gonna be buying Alan's stuff other than fans?) will want HQ stuff -- otherwise places like Bandcamp and CDBaby wouldn't go to the trouble of providing lossless downloads. I mean: I don't think of digital downloads as a convenient accompaniment to something that I own principally on physical media; I think of physical media as ways of distributing audio recordings before there were better/faster ways of doing it. :) Sure, it's not the same "experience" as going to a record shop and buying gatefold vinyl. But having a pizza delivered isn't the same experience as hunting a mammoth either. Times change. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 09:23:31 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:23:31 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <310CF365-9E84-4125-9C22-8D76F6721B39@carlaz.com> Message-ID: I agree with you. I will buy digital if I can. Mp3s are fine on portable players but not as good as you really want. I gave up LPs two decades ago. They probably sound better than CDs if you have a good enough system and don't scratch them but I am not at all convinced they are better than SACD/ 24-96/192 quality. On 27 August 2013 21:13, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 27 Aug 2013, at 07:55 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > That means 320 bps usually-- well well below CD quality. Surely FLAC does > > not take that much bandwidth. He must have recordings in at least CD > > quality. > > Yeah, but I'm not sure that he is as familiar with the digital music > market as he might be. Sure, lots of people just want a random compressed > file that they can download and play directly in their phone or whatever. > I mean, a well-made AAC or MP3 at 256-320kbps sounds pretty decent in many > circumstances. (And better than a 5th-generation cassette copy of something > that came of a low-quality record player or commercial radio -- which is > the kind of sound quality with which I grew up! ;) But fans especially > (and who is gonna be buying Alan's stuff other than fans?) will want HQ > stuff -- otherwise places like Bandcamp and CDBaby wouldn't go to the > trouble of providing lossless downloads. > > I mean: I don't think of digital downloads as a convenient accompaniment > to something that I own principally on physical media; I think of physical > media as ways of distributing audio recordings before there were > better/faster ways of doing it. :) > > Sure, it's not the same "experience" as going to a record shop and buying > gatefold vinyl. But having a pizza delivered isn't the same experience as > hunting a mammoth either. Times change. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Aug 27 09:49:04 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:49:04 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks for the link, I don't like face book. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up He has just announced this: Alan Boomer Davey posted in Space Rockers [image: Alan Boomer Davey] Alan Boomer Davey 27 August 03:28 My new web site will be on line in 1-2 days, I will be announcing its launch on here so subscribe to me on FB to know when '-) This new site will also provide downloads directly or via here on FB of released songs which have been re mastered for high quality mp3's. Some rare and unreleased songs will also be on the list. '-) cu soon and cheers to you all for the support over the many years which makes carrying on and building a new web site worth while!! AD ;-) www.alandaveymusic.com Coming Soon - Future home of something quite cool www.alandaveymusic.com On 27 August 2013 04:36, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 26 Aug 2013, at 15:11 , gary shindler wrote: > > I spotted this on Facebook. > > http://www.thepsychedelicwarlords.com/index.htm > > > Yeah, he also just announced his Web site would be back in a new form > before long. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Aug 27 10:01:27 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:01:27 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 Aug 2013, at 08:23 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > I agree with you. I will buy digital if I can. Mp3s are fine > on portable players but not as good as you really want. My phone carries a subset of my music in a compressed format of course. Limitations of current technology. Sounds "good enough" in many circumstances. It's not like I have an audiophile system, but I like to start with a HQ source, at least. :) Sure, I've bought 256kbps AACs from iTunes on occasion. They sound fine. But I'd be happier having CD quality files -- especially since a physical CD often costs the same! I recognize that Apple wants to deliver "one-size fits all" audio, and that 256kbps files are more practical on contemporary phones. But, still .... > I gave up LPs two decades ago. They probably sound better than CDs if you > have a good enough system and don't scratch them but I am not at all > convinced they are better than SACD/ 24-96/192 quality. Yeah, I haven't seriously listened to vinyl since I was in high school and using my parents' phonograph! I think there were some issues while people figured out how to master stuff for CDs/digital instead of for vinyl, and that contributed to the idea that "vinyl is better". I mean, there's nothing inherently magical about vinyl (leaving aside the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia or pseudo-nostalgia). It was just the most practical audio delivery system once upon a time. And, sure, well mastered vinyl on a good system will sound better than a cruddily mastered CD or badly ripped MP3 on a bad system; no surprises there. But well-produced digital audio on an equivalent stereo system will sound as good if not better than well-produced vinyl. I mean, it's just physics. That said, I haven't bothered to start doing my own home-recordings in "24/96" (though I think GarageBand supports it). It just wouldn't make a lot of difference with the equipment I have, I think (for recording or playback). Nor am I mixing for surround sound or 5.1 or something! :D Much of the audio that I might capture at "24/96" is likely to be noises I would end up trying mix out anyway! :D Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 10:10:57 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:10:57 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am not well up on Apple formats.I recently bought my first iTunes album (!). The format is 4Ma. is that lossless? It sounds pretty good. You can only really hear the difference with headphones or a stereo I could not afford with the HD formats. There are more issues than just the file quality as you said. On 27 August 2013 22:01, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 27 Aug 2013, at 08:23 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > I agree with you. I will buy digital if I can. Mp3s are fine > > on portable players but not as good as you really want. > > My phone carries a subset of my music in a compressed format of course. > Limitations of current technology. Sounds "good enough" in many > circumstances. It's not like I have an audiophile system, but I like to > start with a HQ source, at least. :) > > Sure, I've bought 256kbps AACs from iTunes on occasion. They sound fine. > But I'd be happier having CD quality files -- especially since a physical > CD often costs the same! I recognize that Apple wants to deliver "one-size > fits all" audio, and that 256kbps files are more practical on contemporary > phones. But, still .... > > > I gave up LPs two decades ago. They probably sound better than CDs if > you > > have a good enough system and don't scratch them but I am not at all > > convinced they are better than SACD/ 24-96/192 quality. > > Yeah, I haven't seriously listened to vinyl since I was in high school and > using my parents' phonograph! I think there were some issues while people > figured out how to master stuff for CDs/digital instead of for vinyl, and > that contributed to the idea that "vinyl is better". I mean, there's > nothing inherently magical about vinyl (leaving aside the rose-tinted > glasses of nostalgia or pseudo-nostalgia). It was just the most practical > audio delivery system once upon a time. And, sure, well mastered vinyl on a > good system will sound better than a cruddily mastered CD or badly ripped > MP3 on a bad system; no surprises there. But well-produced digital audio on > an equivalent stereo system will sound as good if not better than > well-produced vinyl. I mean, it's just physics. > > That said, I haven't bothered to start doing my own home-recordings in > "24/96" (though I think GarageBand supports it). It just wouldn't make a > lot of difference with the equipment I have, I think (for recording or > playback). Nor am I mixing for surround sound or 5.1 or something! :D Much > of the audio that I might capture at "24/96" is likely to be noises I would > end up trying mix out anyway! :D > > > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU Tue Aug 27 10:21:35 2013 From: mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:21:35 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > My phone carries a subset of my music in a compressed format of course. Limitations of current technology. Sounds "good enough" in many circumstances. It's not like I have an audiophile system, but I like to start with a HQ source, at least. :) > Sigh, I remember listening to a transistor radio. A half inch speaker if that. Held to my ear. AM. And I felt blessed. Of course, given the times and the music, I was blessed. "Despite all the amputations..." John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 27 10:29:10 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:29:10 +0100 Subject: So Take a Fix on Lighthouse Message-ID: Using pulsars for galactic navigation: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1307.5375v1.pdf -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 10:30:54 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:30:54 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <521CB5EF.6030005@exchange.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: :) I was pleased with my mono record player-- the Velvets sounded good on that kind of euipment. On 27 August 2013 22:21, John McIntyre wrote: > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> My phone carries a subset of my music in a compressed format of course. >> Limitations of current technology. Sounds "good enough" in many >> circumstances. It's not like I have an audiophile system, but I like to >> start with a HQ source, at least. :) >> >> > Sigh, I remember listening to a transistor radio. A half inch speaker if > that. Held to my ear. AM. And I felt blessed. > > Of course, given the times and the music, I was blessed. "Despite all the > amputations..." > > John McIntyre > mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 10:35:55 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:35:55 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <521CB5EF.6030005@exchange.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: I just want to apologise for mentioning vinyl!!! But since I seem to have just a LITLLE "learing disability", I will say since the damage is done, that I got my Warrior box set vinyl replacement yesterday, and the remastered CD cannot compete. On 8/27/13, John McIntyre wrote: > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> My phone carries a subset of my music in a compressed format of course. >> Limitations of current technology. Sounds "good enough" in many >> circumstances. It's not like I have an audiophile system, but I like to >> start with a HQ source, at least. :) >> > Sigh, I remember listening to a transistor radio. A half inch speaker > if that. Held to my ear. AM. And I felt blessed. > > Of course, given the times and the music, I was blessed. "Despite all > the amputations..." > > John McIntyre > mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 10:40:35 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:40:35 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would expect the DVD-A to be of equal quality but I cannot prove it. On 27 August 2013 22:35, mike c wrote: > I just want to apologise for mentioning vinyl!!! > > But since I seem to have just a LITLLE "learing disability", I will > say since the damage is done, that I got my Warrior box set vinyl > replacement yesterday, and the remastered CD cannot compete. > > > > On 8/27/13, John McIntyre wrote: > > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> My phone carries a subset of my music in a compressed format of course. > >> Limitations of current technology. Sounds "good enough" in many > >> circumstances. It's not like I have an audiophile system, but I like to > >> start with a HQ source, at least. :) > >> > > Sigh, I remember listening to a transistor radio. A half inch speaker > > if that. Held to my ear. AM. And I felt blessed. > > > > Of course, given the times and the music, I was blessed. "Despite all > > the amputations..." > > > > John McIntyre > > mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > > > From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 27 10:49:37 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:49:37 +0100 Subject: Angela Android? Message-ID: Warning: contains droidism! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23637225 "While no machine, however well-engineered, can ever feel empathy" Droidist bigotry. It's almost as if "Equal Opportunities for Andoids" had never existed! FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 11:20:45 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:20:45 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > I would expect the DVD-A to be of equal quality but I cannot prove it. I am glad you brought this up, it came up again last night in a phone coversation with my friend. He doesn't have 5.1, but plays that DVD in pro-logic, and says it is a hoot and absolutely great. He say it puts all the vocals in the middle or something and is very noticably different. As far as my vinyl comment, I am not sure if this new warrior is the best of them ALL, but it MIGHT be. It would only be challenged by the jap ones I think. What I really meant was (that) generally the alien tech cannot compete with the original alien tech :) :) I must find a way to discover that the phonograph was simply "the first alien tech" :) :) From richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 11:31:24 2013 From: richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:31:24 +0100 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <310CF365-9E84-4125-9C22-8D76F6721B39@carlaz.com> Message-ID: >But having a pizza delivered isn't the same experience as hunting a mammoth either. Times change. :) A big Quattro Stagioni can be dangerous if you you only wound it you know... R. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 27 Aug 2013, at 07:55 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > > That means 320 bps usually-- well well below CD quality. Surely FLAC does > > not take that much bandwidth. He must have recordings in at least CD > > quality. > > Yeah, but I'm not sure that he is as familiar with the digital music > market as he might be. Sure, lots of people just want a random compressed > file that they can download and play directly in their phone or whatever. > I mean, a well-made AAC or MP3 at 256-320kbps sounds pretty decent in many > circumstances. (And better than a 5th-generation cassette copy of something > that came of a low-quality record player or commercial radio -- which is > the kind of sound quality with which I grew up! ;) But fans especially > (and who is gonna be buying Alan's stuff other than fans?) will want HQ > stuff -- otherwise places like Bandcamp and CDBaby wouldn't go to the > trouble of providing lossless downloads. > > I mean: I don't think of digital downloads as a convenient accompaniment > to something that I own principally on physical media; I think of physical > media as ways of distributing audio recordings before there were > better/faster ways of doing it. :) > > Sure, it's not the same "experience" as going to a record shop and buying > gatefold vinyl. But having a pizza delivered isn't the same experience as > hunting a mammoth either. Times change. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 11:36:45 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:36:45 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 5.1 a separate issue. It just gives you a surround sound which can be nice. HD stereo should give you the full 24-bit sound of the master tapes. A CD is limited to 16-bit. On 27 Aug 2013 23:22, "mike c" wrote: > On 8/27/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > I would expect the DVD-A to be of equal quality but I cannot prove it. > > I am glad you brought this up, it came up again last night in a phone > coversation with my friend. > He doesn't have 5.1, but plays that DVD in pro-logic, and says it is a > hoot and absolutely great. > He say it puts all the vocals in the middle or something and is very > noticably different. > > As far as my vinyl comment, I am not sure if this new warrior is the > best of them ALL, but it MIGHT be. It would only be challenged by the > jap ones I think. > > What I really meant was (that) generally the alien tech cannot compete > with the original alien tech :) :) > I must find a way to discover that the phonograph was simply "the > first alien tech" :) :) > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 11:45:30 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:45:30 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > 5.1 a separate issue. It just gives you a surround sound which can be nice. > HD stereo should give you the full 24-bit sound of the master tapes. A CD > is limited to 16-bit. at the risk of sounding like me, I ask a serious question should i connect the DVD player and give it a whirl without any rear or surround channels? From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 11:49:13 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:49:13 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: yes. you can chose stereo (or Stereo PCM) from the menu. see if it sounds better than the CD. On 27 August 2013 23:45, mike c wrote: > On 8/27/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > 5.1 a separate issue. It just gives you a surround sound which can be > nice. > > HD stereo should give you the full 24-bit sound of the master tapes. A CD > > is limited to 16-bit. > > at the risk of sounding like me, I ask a serious question > should i connect the DVD player and give it a whirl without any rear > or surround channels? > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 11:56:50 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:56:50 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > yes. you can chose stereo (or Stereo PCM) from the menu. see if it sounds > better than the CD. you mean connect the TV TOO?? oh dear, get me the russian "men in black" movie quickly please!!! allowing entertainment that isnlt about aliens is VERY against my "religion" :) :) From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 12:15:43 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 00:15:43 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Only temporarily... watching the screen gets very dull. On 27 Aug 2013 23:58, "mike c" wrote: > On 8/27/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > yes. you can chose stereo (or Stereo PCM) from the menu. see if it sounds > > better than the CD. > > you mean connect the TV TOO?? > oh dear, get me the russian "men in black" movie quickly please!!! > > allowing entertainment that isnlt about aliens is VERY against my > "religion" :) :) > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Aug 27 12:28:36 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:28:36 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: anyone who has 5.1 want to adopt me for a few days, I think Tim wouldn't mind, so I can hear all my cool surround vid.s? I won't take up much space, and don't need much food, in fact I'll bring my own. (ha, ha). Anyway, enough silliness, Mike, so glad you got your vinyl copy, I was wondering how you thought it compares to the remix. In a comment Mr. Wilson stated he remixed as opposed to remastered Warrior. just can't help it, I hear about surround sound and I start dreaming. I guess it's like going from black and white to color for you guys. I am so glad to have an ipod for those times on the train, or waiting around without distraction except for the conversations of those around me that I'm not concerned with. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:21 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/27/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > I would expect the DVD-A to be of equal quality but I cannot prove it. I am glad you brought this up, it came up again last night in a phone coversation with my friend. He doesn't have 5.1, but plays that DVD in pro-logic, and says it is a hoot and absolutely great. He say it puts all the vocals in the middle or something and is very noticably different. As far as my vinyl comment, I am not sure if this new warrior is the best of them ALL, but it MIGHT be. It would only be challenged by the jap ones I think. What I really meant was (that) generally the alien tech cannot compete with the original alien tech :) :) I must find a way to discover that the phonograph was simply "the first alien tech" :) :) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 12:42:58 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 11:42:58 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <593AFFA698B44FF38D9A7DF11D601020@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > , I was > wondering how you thought it compares to the remix. In a comment Mr. > Wilson > stated he remixed as opposed to remastered Warrior. Fun only 1 way to describe that because I cannot really compare otherwise. that would be like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa and asking if it was improved. Of course she WAS, when kevin sommers put the warrior LP in her hands just what is that vocal part at the end of demented man? Steven is that you??? Only played once. I work hard on my training applications to be able to make the transition when the new beings emerge :) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 13:00:25 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:00:25 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: what did you think mary? you are the more qualified I think I was assuming you had the 3CD version? On my 1 play it was great, but I think the end of demented man may take some adjustment. Not sure otherwise super magnifico On 8/27/13, mike c wrote: > On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> , I was >> wondering how you thought it compares to the remix. In a comment Mr. >> Wilson >> stated he remixed as opposed to remastered Warrior. > > Fun > > only 1 way to describe that > > because I cannot really compare otherwise. > that would be like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa and asking if > it was improved. > Of course she WAS, when kevin sommers put the warrior LP in her hands > just what is that vocal part at the end of demented man? > Steven is that you??? > Only played once. I work hard on my training applications to be able > to make the transition when the new beings emerge :) > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Aug 27 13:12:31 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:12:31 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: don't know about that vocal, don't believe Wilson would himself into the mix, especially since he was a kid when the album came out, and I think the tries to honor the albums by making them sound clearer to his ear. I'd love to know what our Captain thinks of it. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > , I was > wondering how you thought it compares to the remix. In a comment Mr. > Wilson > stated he remixed as opposed to remastered Warrior. Fun only 1 way to describe that because I cannot really compare otherwise. that would be like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa and asking if it was improved. Of course she WAS, when kevin sommers put the warrior LP in her hands just what is that vocal part at the end of demented man? Steven is that you??? Only played once. I work hard on my training applications to be able to make the transition when the new beings emerge :) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 13:24:38 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:24:38 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >. I'd > love > to know what our Captain thinks of it. > are you allowed to call him that (wink) am I ??? whatever he did or didn't : will it float and should we be pissed off?? (wink) From lucidsound at IC24.NET Tue Aug 27 13:31:07 2013 From: lucidsound at IC24.NET (LucidSounD) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:31:07 +0100 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: More likely Dave recorded the vocal originally, then decided he didn't like the bit at the end so didn't put it in the final mix. When Wilson went through the tapes he would have found it and probably thought it sounded interesting. -----Original Message----- From: mary ann sullivan Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:12 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up don't know about that vocal, don't believe Wilson would himself into the mix, especially since he was a kid when the album came out, and I think the tries to honor the albums by making them sound clearer to his ear. I'd love to know what our Captain thinks of it. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > , I was > wondering how you thought it compares to the remix. In a comment Mr. > Wilson > stated he remixed as opposed to remastered Warrior. Fun only 1 way to describe that because I cannot really compare otherwise. that would be like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa and asking if it was improved. Of course she WAS, when kevin sommers put the warrior LP in her hands just what is that vocal part at the end of demented man? Steven is that you??? Only played once. I work hard on my training applications to be able to make the transition when the new beings emerge :) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 13:58:51 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:58:51 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/13, LucidSounD wrote: > More likely Dave recorded the vocal originally, then decided he didn't like > > the bit at the end so didn't put it in the final mix. When Wilson went > through the tapes he would have found it and probably thought it sounded > interesting. thank you captain and re mary, I think, at last glance, the baron had the luxury (did I spell that right), of being the baron "nobody sent me a copy" HAHAHAHA please let me say that this is what I thought I saw only From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Aug 27 14:21:41 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:21:41 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey there, Lucid Sound, I hope you're well. (what a great name), and friends, that makes sense about that vocal track,, it is interesting, since I'm so used to hearing the original, no complaints, still haven't heard the whispering someone eluded to on Demented Man, but I haven't listened in headphones, and with the distraction of the air conditioner above my head, I miss some of the subtleties. I love the extra tracks on the other disc (intense), That track of Dave's about someone's been screwing my girlfriend is really a riot, a throwback to the early days. The 3 disc package is a must, if I had a working turntable, and more space ... It's all good. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of LucidSounD Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:31 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up More likely Dave recorded the vocal originally, then decided he didn't like the bit at the end so didn't put it in the final mix. When Wilson went through the tapes he would have found it and probably thought it sounded interesting. -----Original Message----- From: mary ann sullivan Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:12 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up don't know about that vocal, don't believe Wilson would himself into the mix, especially since he was a kid when the album came out, and I think the tries to honor the albums by making them sound clearer to his ear. I'd love to know what our Captain thinks of it. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > , I was > wondering how you thought it compares to the remix. In a comment Mr. > Wilson > stated he remixed as opposed to remastered Warrior. Fun only 1 way to describe that because I cannot really compare otherwise. that would be like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa and asking if it was improved. Of course she WAS, when kevin sommers put the warrior LP in her hands just what is that vocal part at the end of demented man? Steven is that you??? Only played once. I work hard on my training applications to be able to make the transition when the new beings emerge :) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Aug 27 14:23:45 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:23:45 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: About my last posting, On The Road, couldn't think of the name, had to complete the posting. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of LucidSounD Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:31 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up More likely Dave recorded the vocal originally, then decided he didn't like the bit at the end so didn't put it in the final mix. When Wilson went through the tapes he would have found it and probably thought it sounded interesting. -----Original Message----- From: mary ann sullivan Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:12 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up don't know about that vocal, don't believe Wilson would himself into the mix, especially since he was a kid when the album came out, and I think the tries to honor the albums by making them sound clearer to his ear. I'd love to know what our Captain thinks of it. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > , I was > wondering how you thought it compares to the remix. In a comment Mr. > Wilson > stated he remixed as opposed to remastered Warrior. Fun only 1 way to describe that because I cannot really compare otherwise. that would be like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa and asking if it was improved. Of course she WAS, when kevin sommers put the warrior LP in her hands just what is that vocal part at the end of demented man? Steven is that you??? Only played once. I work hard on my training applications to be able to make the transition when the new beings emerge :) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Aug 27 14:27:00 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:27:00 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 Aug 2013, at 12:12 , mary ann sullivan wrote: > > don't know about that vocal, don't believe Wilson would himself into the > mix, especially since he was a kid when the album came out, and I think the > tries to honor the albums by making them sound clearer to his ear. Wilson's mixes seem to remain very true to the spirit of the original mixes -- just usually clearer and more separated. If you like the spirit of the original mix, this is great; for example, his remix of Tull's Aqualung really makes one think "Thank heavens someone has fixed that at last!". If you are not so into the original mix, then at least it's better and clearer. For example, I am a wicked heretic who didn't really like the production on Warrior on the Edge of Time, and would have liked a different apporach in the mix. But I can't say that Wilson's remix doesn't achieve what it set out to achieve, but it certainly seems to do that! I can't speak for the 5.1 mix(es). I have 5.1 after a fashion on the home theater setup, but it's a lowerish end commercial thing that's crammed into a less than ideal space in the house (albeit the most ideal of many less than ideal spaces) and I am not sure that my setup would do the 5.1 mix justice! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Aug 27 14:28:29 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:28:29 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 Aug 2013, at 09:10 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > I am not well up on Apple formats.I recently bought my first iTunes album > (!). The format is 4Ma. is that lossless? It sounds pretty good. M4A. This is AAC audio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding) in a MPEG-4 wrapper. What you get from iTunes is not lossless; it's 256kbps AAC audio (packaged as .m4a). This is pretty good, probably better than MP3 at the same bit-rate, but still lossy. Apple also has it's own lossless format, ALAC, which is also typically wrapped in MPEG-4. So the iTunes audio files and the ALAC files you can create end up with the same filename extension; you have to dig a little deeper -- or look at the file size! -- to figure out which are lossy or lossless. I presume Apple has ALAC in place so that they can sell DRM'd lossless files whenever they deem the market is ready for it -- but they are selling 256kbps lossy AAC audio at the moment. > You can only really hear the difference with headphones or a stereo > I could not afford with the HD formats. There are more issues than just the > file quality as you said. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I have iTMS stuff that I play in my phone's stock earbuds and in the car, and it sounds fine. I convert my ripped-from-CD ALAC files to 256kbps AAC for the phone, and it sounds fine too. But I prefer to buy lossless from Bandcamp or CDBaby if it is at all possible! :) I have, for example, the new Blue Coupe from CDBaby. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 14:34:34 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:34:34 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <9C8B4AAB62434F4AA780FD33EB27BE58@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > About my last posting, On The Road, couldn't think of the name, had to > complete the posting. For me, and thanks for bringing this up as I might as well "spew" my last bit: the bonus materail is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" and Wizard. I was experiencing what it is like to get a new roof put on that day, and come about 6PM I'd had my fill. I went straight to those and I blew the roofers straight off ther roof and all the way home. dave's track is superb but I thought maybe a little out of place in a way, as was some of the others Just my opinion and have only played any of these 1 time. The noise at the end of Demented man sounded like a feminine vocal to me on that one listen. I may have had the AC going as Mary did, but my initial impression was "I bet this is Steven" "Having a little joke" and "Because he can" I will never think of it like that again, regardless. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 27 14:46:16 2013 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:46:16 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote: > 5.1 a separate issue. It just gives you a surround sound which can be nice. > HD stereo should give you the full 24-bit sound of the master tapes. A CD > is limited to 16-bit. But the Golden Age of Hawkwind is all on analogue master tapes, so the most important factor is arguably not the bit depth but of how well the analogue to digital transfer is done. If you screw that up then all the rest is just putting lipstick on a pig. :-) Cheers, Paul. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 14:51:17 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:51:17 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: so let's see we got: On the Road ---Widowmaker On the Road- Motorhead and On the Road- Hawkwind we're got to get some more OTR's!!!! Huw gets my vote on this one, by a fair lead, and look My BOC/Motorhead connection of the day :) :) http://www.discogs.com/Mot?rhead-Blow-Your-Brain-Off/release/3098656 On 8/27/13, Paul Mather wrote: > On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> 5.1 a separate issue. It just gives you a surround sound which can be >> nice. >> HD stereo should give you the full 24-bit sound of the master tapes. A CD >> is limited to 16-bit. > > But the Golden Age of Hawkwind is all on analogue master tapes, so the most > important factor is arguably not the bit depth but of how well the analogue > to digital transfer is done. If you screw that up then all the rest is just > putting lipstick on a pig. :-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 15:37:27 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:37:27 -0500 Subject: So Take a Fix on Lighthouse In-Reply-To: <521CB7B6.30505@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 8/27/13, Mike Holmes wrote: > Using pulsars for galactic navigation: > > http://arxiv.org/pdf/1307.5375v1.pdf > if we ever lose the web we're going to need meds, and imagine being one of the ones observing our hive mind. It sounds like it's an amazing science all it's own From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 27 16:07:52 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:07:52 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/27/13, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > For example, I am a wicked heretic who didn't really like the production on > Warrior on the Edge of Time, I remember that, and who wants to live in a world of exact clones. I honestly like the way I am not able to conceive exactly what is meantl, and that is absolutely nothing negative. I simply do not understand all that, or most of what you guys say, which is cool as it is. I'm going to try to lie down now. seems like a potential solution :) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 07:27:32 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:27:32 -0400 Subject: So Take a Fix on Lighthouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: headache, appointment with woman from the Commission for the blind later, can we try for this evening ? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 3:37 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: So Take a Fix on Lighthouse On 8/27/13, Mike Holmes wrote: > Using pulsars for galactic navigation: > > http://arxiv.org/pdf/1307.5375v1.pdf > if we ever lose the web we're going to need meds, and imagine being one of the ones observing our hive mind. It sounds like it's an amazing science all it's own From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 07:36:17 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:36:17 +0800 Subject: So Take a Fix on Lighthouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ...interesting to see the origin of the research too. On 28 August 2013 03:37, mike c wrote: > On 8/27/13, Mike Holmes wrote: > > Using pulsars for galactic navigation: > > > > http://arxiv.org/pdf/1307.5375v1.pdf > > > > if we ever lose the web we're going to need meds, and imagine being > one of the ones observing our hive mind. > It sounds like it's an amazing science all it's own > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 07:37:18 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:37:18 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I did read On The Road, but, that's a totally different trip. Mike, do you want us to ask Steven about Demented Man on his site, don't know if he'll respond? I'm inclined to agree with Lucid Sound, and as I said, I think that Steven respects Hawkwind enough to not mess with the original material. " my last bit: the bonus material is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" and Wizard. That stuff is so fuckin cool. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:35 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > About my last posting, On The Road, couldn't think of the name, had to > complete the posting. For me, and thanks for bringing this up as I might as well "spew" my last bit: the bonus materail is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" and Wizard. I was experiencing what it is like to get a new roof put on that day, and come about 6PM I'd had my fill. I went straight to those and I blew the roofers straight off ther roof and all the way home. dave's track is superb but I thought maybe a little out of place in a way, as was some of the others Just my opinion and have only played any of these 1 time. The noise at the end of Demented man sounded like a feminine vocal to me on that one listen. I may have had the AC going as Mary did, but my initial impression was "I bet this is Steven" "Having a little joke" and "Because he can" I will never think of it like that again, regardless. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 07:40:15 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:40:15 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Carl, I hope you and family are well. I think Steven's mix is a lot of fun. I think I'll play it now, Tim's sleeping, so this is a good chance to listen undistracted with phones. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:27 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 27 Aug 2013, at 12:12 , mary ann sullivan wrote: > > don't know about that vocal, don't believe Wilson would himself into > the mix, especially since he was a kid when the album came out, and I > think the tries to honor the albums by making them sound clearer to his ear. Wilson's mixes seem to remain very true to the spirit of the original mixes -- just usually clearer and more separated. If you like the spirit of the original mix, this is great; for example, his remix of Tull's Aqualung really makes one think "Thank heavens someone has fixed that at last!". If you are not so into the original mix, then at least it's better and clearer. For example, I am a wicked heretic who didn't really like the production on Warrior on the Edge of Time, and would have liked a different apporach in the mix. But I can't say that Wilson's remix doesn't achieve what it set out to achieve, but it certainly seems to do that! I can't speak for the 5.1 mix(es). I have 5.1 after a fashion on the home theater setup, but it's a lowerish end commercial thing that's crammed into a less than ideal space in the house (albeit the most ideal of many less than ideal spaces) and I am not sure that my setup would do the 5.1 mix justice! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 07:47:24 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:47:24 +0800 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <2880671D95334C39BD6038D86D728EED@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Yes-- Kerouac's * On the Road! *Which apparently he wrote sitting at home :) Mick Farren RIP wrote the lyrics to Motorhead's *On the Rd*. The WOTET '*On the Rd*' is an odd one-- one of the odd demos Carl was talking about. The Moorcock and Nik narrations are rather good. Thanks for clearing up the M4A mystery. I thought it was not quite lossless (the size seemed a bit small) but pretty good. All Steve Wilson's remixes are good (especially King Crimson), Mary. He loves high quality sound. On 28 August 2013 19:37, mary ann sullivan wrote: > I did read On The Road, but, that's a totally different trip. Mike, do you > want us to ask Steven about Demented Man on his site, don't know if he'll > respond? I'm inclined to agree with Lucid Sound, and as I said, I think > that Steven respects Hawkwind enough to not mess with the original > material. > " my last bit: the bonus material is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" > and Wizard. That stuff is so fuckin cool. > > Love, > > Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike c > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:35 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up > > On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > About my last posting, On The Road, couldn't think of the name, had to > > complete the posting. > > For me, and thanks for bringing this up as I might as well "spew" my last > bit: the bonus materail is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" > and Wizard. > I was experiencing what it is like to get a new roof put on that day, and > come about 6PM I'd had my fill. > I went straight to those and I blew the roofers straight off ther roof and > all the way home. > dave's track is superb but I thought maybe a little out of place in a way, > as was some of the others Just my opinion and have only played any of these > 1 time. > The noise at the end of Demented man sounded like a feminine vocal to me on > that one listen. I may have had the AC going as Mary did, but my initial > impression was "I bet this is Steven" > "Having a little joke" and "Because he can" > I will never think of it like that again, regardless. > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 07:53:02 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:53:02 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike I don't see why I shouldn't call Dave Captain, That is who he is. Since I worked with the band in my own way when we traveled with them for weeks at a time in the '89 '90 and 91 tours. doing the networking and Kaduflyer thing I'm sort of part of the crew, so that makes Dave my Captain. it was very kind of Dave and the band to let me travel with them, granted I co-edited the newsletter, but that didn't necessarily give me the privilege of traveling with the band even though Chris was working for them. Those were some of the most fun times in my life. I'll never forget the kindness of Dave, the band, and of course everyone I met on the road. Cheers, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:25 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >. I'd > love > to know what our Captain thinks of it. > are you allowed to call him that (wink) am I ??? whatever he did or didn't : will it float and should we be pissed off?? (wink) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 07:56:12 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:56:12 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: mike, didn't see this post till now, I start from the newest and arrow down, it takes a bit of time, I think you'll find my answer in a different posting, but I love the Wilson mix, and the extra tracks on the other disc. Mary P.S. I hope this is it concerning email, I don't want the distraction of writing while listening to Warrior! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:00 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up what did you think mary? you are the more qualified I think I was assuming you had the 3CD version? On my 1 play it was great, but I think the end of demented man may take some adjustment. Not sure otherwise super magnifico On 8/27/13, mike c wrote: > On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> , I was >> wondering how you thought it compares to the remix. In a comment Mr. >> Wilson >> stated he remixed as opposed to remastered Warrior. > > Fun > > only 1 way to describe that > > because I cannot really compare otherwise. > that would be like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa and asking if > it was improved. > Of course she WAS, when kevin sommers put the warrior LP in her hands > just what is that vocal part at the end of demented man? > Steven is that you??? > Only played once. I work hard on my training applications to be able > to make the transition when the new beings emerge :) > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 07:58:45 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:58:45 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I know -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:16 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up Only temporarily... watching the screen gets very dull. On 27 Aug 2013 23:58, "mike c" wrote: > On 8/27/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > yes. you can chose stereo (or Stereo PCM) from the menu. see if it > > sounds better than the CD. > > you mean connect the TV TOO?? > oh dear, get me the russian "men in black" movie quickly please!!! > > allowing entertainment that isnlt about aliens is VERY against my > "religion" :) :) > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 08:08:13 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:08:13 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jonathan, I didn't know that about OTR, or the factoid about the lyrics to the Motorhead song of the same title. yes, Mr. Wilson does have an excellent ear for remixing, I do look forward to Red coming out in the fall, although Lizard is my favorite. I guess he's doing Close To The Edge, and (the one I want) Benefit. Tim says he's the devil after all our money. I think he's just brilliant with no hidden agenda except to try to make old recordings sound better. Well, this is truly my last email, so I can finally decompress for a few, and enjoy Warrior without distraction. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:47 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up Yes-- Kerouac's * On the Road! *Which apparently he wrote sitting at home :) Mick Farren RIP wrote the lyrics to Motorhead's *On the Rd*. The WOTET '*On the Rd*' is an odd one-- one of the odd demos Carl was talking about. The Moorcock and Nik narrations are rather good. Thanks for clearing up the M4A mystery. I thought it was not quite lossless (the size seemed a bit small) but pretty good. All Steve Wilson's remixes are good (especially King Crimson), Mary. He loves high quality sound. On 28 August 2013 19:37, mary ann sullivan wrote: > I did read On The Road, but, that's a totally different trip. Mike, > do you want us to ask Steven about Demented Man on his site, don't know if he'll > respond? I'm inclined to agree with Lucid Sound, and as I said, I think > that Steven respects Hawkwind enough to not mess with the original > material. > " my last bit: the bonus material is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" > and Wizard. That stuff is so fuckin cool. > > Love, > > Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike c > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:35 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up > > On 8/27/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > About my last posting, On The Road, couldn't think of the name, had > > to complete the posting. > > For me, and thanks for bringing this up as I might as well "spew" my > last > bit: the bonus materail is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" > and Wizard. > I was experiencing what it is like to get a new roof put on that day, > and come about 6PM I'd had my fill. > I went straight to those and I blew the roofers straight off ther roof > and all the way home. > dave's track is superb but I thought maybe a little out of place in a > way, as was some of the others Just my opinion and have only played > any of these > 1 time. > The noise at the end of Demented man sounded like a feminine vocal to > me on that one listen. I may have had the AC going as Mary did, but my > initial impression was "I bet this is Steven" > "Having a little joke" and "Because he can" > I will never think of it like that again, regardless. > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 28 09:10:19 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:10:19 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 28 Aug 2013, at 06:47 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Thanks for clearing up the M4A mystery. I thought it was not quite lossless > (the size seemed a bit small) but pretty good. Well, the "M4A" extention simply designates the "wrapper" for whatever the "real" audio in the file is. So you might have an .m4a file with lossily compressed audio inside, or you might have an .m4a file with losslessly compressed audio inside. But, yes, the size of the file is usually a guide, and you can use some kind of file inspector (iTunes will do this) that tells you about the audio type, bit rate, etc. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 28 09:17:40 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:17:40 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <685CA0A7869343399309DAA0D72B11B8@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 28 Aug 2013, at 07:08 , mary ann sullivan wrote: > > I guess he's doing Close To The Edge, and > (the one I want) Benefit. Tull's _Benefit_? That current remastered version sounds pretty good, but I wouldn't object to a Wilson remix. Certainly one of my favorite albums! > Tim says he's the devil after all our money. I > think he's just brilliant with no hidden agenda except to try to make old > recordings sound better. I tend to agree with you, though as I suggest in my previous posts, the particular added value with any given remix depends heavily on how the existing mixes sound. Even the best of the remastered Aqualung CDs sounded rather rough, and Wilson's remix is definitely worth it. Wilson adds some clarity to the Warrior remix as well. On the other hand, while you can hear the difference (with, at least, some effort) on the Thick As A Brick remix, I thought the mix there was pretty decent and the Wilson's treatment is less obvious than on, say, Aqualung. Sure, I suppose record companies are desperate to find something to sell, and no one is turning away the money. Steve Wilson has to eat, too. :) But I think in general his remixes are a better value than yet another attempt by the record companies to say "look, we've remastered it again, but even louder than before!" .... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 09:45:09 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:45:09 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: don't have Aqualung, yet heard TAAb, and I agree with you. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:18 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 28 Aug 2013, at 07:08 , mary ann sullivan wrote: > > I guess he's doing Close To The Edge, and (the one I want) Benefit. Tull's _Benefit_? That current remastered version sounds pretty good, but I wouldn't object to a Wilson remix. Certainly one of my favorite albums! > Tim says he's the devil after all our money. I think he's just > brilliant with no hidden agenda except to try to make old recordings > sound better. I tend to agree with you, though as I suggest in my previous posts, the particular added value with any given remix depends heavily on how the existing mixes sound. Even the best of the remastered Aqualung CDs sounded rather rough, and Wilson's remix is definitely worth it. Wilson adds some clarity to the Warrior remix as well. On the other hand, while you can hear the difference (with, at least, some effort) on the Thick As A Brick remix, I thought the mix there was pretty decent and the Wilson's treatment is less obvious than on, say, Aqualung. Sure, I suppose record companies are desperate to find something to sell, and no one is turning away the money. Steve Wilson has to eat, too. :) But I think in general his remixes are a better value than yet another attempt by the record companies to say "look, we've remastered it again, but even louder than before!" .... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 11:08:27 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:08:27 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <2880671D95334C39BD6038D86D728EED@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > I did read On The Road, but, that's a totally different trip. Mike, do you > want us to ask Steven about Demented Man on his site, don't know if he'll > respond? I'm inclined to agree with Lucid Sound, and as I said, I think > that Steven respects Hawkwind enough to not mess with the original > material. > " my last bit: the bonus material is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" > and Wizard. That stuff is so fuckin cool. > > Love, > > Mary Thanks Mary but it just made for some chat yesterday. Only if you want to do that, I am not bothered and as long as it is all Hawkwind sourced I will go back and try again. thanks and I think I said the remix was not only fun but good fun. Just that part threw me. Do I have to like every last thing about it?? (smile) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 11:09:38 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:09:38 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > don't have Aqualung, yet heard TAAb, and I agree with you. Headache my arse. You better hide Tim From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 11:19:40 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 10:19:40 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear everyone I would have tried to not interfere as long as i could, which of course might have only been 3 mins, but would have except: Mary addresed my not once but twice. All cool Mary, with me anyway. And i would just like to say another comment about the remix; What's not to love about having an "alternate warrior". I should play that today if I can get spirits up and rid of my own headache On 8/28/13, mike c wrote: > On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> don't have Aqualung, yet heard TAAb, and I agree with you. > > Headache my arse. You better hide Tim > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 12:44:49 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:44:49 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike, and friends, yes, you do have to like every single thing, or you're not a true fan and don't belong in the Church of Hawkwind. (smile). Of course, just kidding, you can like or dislike anything you want, and so can I, and what 1 song may mean to me may be something totally different to you, accept for I'm always right. Love ya, Mary P.S. Kosh needs to wake up and earn his keep, there's a damn flying insect in the house, ak! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:08 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > I did read On The Road, but, that's a totally different trip. Mike, > do you want us to ask Steven about Demented Man on his site, don't know if he'll > respond? I'm inclined to agree with Lucid Sound, and as I said, I think > that Steven respects Hawkwind enough to not mess with the original > material. > " my last bit: the bonus material is all about Mike and Niks's "Soldiers" > and Wizard. That stuff is so fuckin cool. > > Love, > > Mary Thanks Mary but it just made for some chat yesterday. Only if you want to do that, I am not bothered and as long as it is all Hawkwind sourced I will go back and try again. thanks and I think I said the remix was not only fun but good fun. Just that part threw me. Do I have to like every last thing about it?? (smile) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 12:58:56 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:58:56 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ha, sorry, you lost me, Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 1:59 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/27/13, LucidSounD wrote: > More likely Dave recorded the vocal originally, then decided he didn't > like > > the bit at the end so didn't put it in the final mix. When Wilson > went through the tapes he would have found it and probably thought it > sounded interesting. thank you captain and re mary, I think, at last glance, the baron had the luxury (did I spell that right), of being the baron "nobody sent me a copy" HAHAHAHA please let me say that this is what I thought I saw only From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 13:12:44 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:12:44 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <5B53F1640C984B70BDA2E0F53923E37F@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > ha, sorry, you lost me, Mike That's okay, I still have Suzanne, whatever that means and even thought she's in New York. It's not like you were here in dallas either.. Besides, 'll take "angry crazy" over high maintenance anyway (no offense), and you get a failing grade in telepathy. There are so many "others" living amongst us. Further, I think androgeny is the future. How will I pull that off and it is so not me on the extrerior. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 14:03:37 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:03:37 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: failure in telepathy, that's kinda good, it may be valid sometimes, but it's not reliable, and I wouldn't want that burden anyway. I may get flashes, that's all, mastery over that sort of thing could be dangerous. Thought is energy is ... I don't know. From a few life experiences I believe sometimes there's more than synchronicity at work, since I had no knowledge about some of the things I dreamed that were actualized, subconscious, coincidence, maybe, but I don't think so. I'll still practice my Psi Power,. Maybe there's still hope for me to evolve. Mike, I already know what you're thinking of that last sentence, since I know you, and I know how you feel about telepathy, and what is the ultimate realization in evolution. I'll just be the best Mary Bruce I can be, and try to help others feel better after I've been around them. I don't know how much we can do to raise the vibrational level we seem to be at than to live what we spew. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > ha, sorry, you lost me, Mike That's okay, I still have Suzanne, whatever that means and even thought she's in New York. It's not like you were here in dallas either.. Besides, 'll take "angry crazy" over high maintenance anyway (no offense), and you get a failing grade in telepathy. There are so many "others" living amongst us. Further, I think androgeny is the future. How will I pull that off and it is so not me on the extrerior. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 14:25:17 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 13:25:17 -0500 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: <0CE81438159D46F9A14FA6C73FF0EBED@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: please tell me ww3 is not really about to kill me. i've just come in with what looks like cosmic aid concerning my man-tent, and I've just opened a box with vinyl copies of stellar and looking as an early xmas gift. is this a trick?? On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > failure in telepathy, that's kinda good, it may be valid sometimes, but > it's > not reliable, and I wouldn't want that burden anyway. I may get flashes, > that's all, mastery over that sort of thing could be dangerous. Thought is > energy is ... I don't know. From a few life experiences I believe > sometimes there's more than synchronicity at work, since I had no knowledge > about some of the things I dreamed that were actualized, subconscious, > coincidence, maybe, but I don't think so. > I'll still practice my Psi Power,. Maybe there's still hope for me to > evolve. Mike, I already know what you're thinking of that last sentence, > since I know you, and I know how you feel about telepathy, and what is the > ultimate realization in evolution. I'll just be the best Mary Bruce I can > be, and try to help others feel better after I've been around them. I > don't > know how much we can do to raise the vibrational level we seem to be at > than > to live what we spew. > > Love, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of mike c > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:13 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up > > On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> ha, sorry, you lost me, Mike > > That's okay, I still have Suzanne, whatever that means and even thought > she's in New York. It's not like you were here in dallas either.. > > Besides, 'll take "angry crazy" over high maintenance anyway (no offense), > and you get a failing grade in telepathy. > There are so many "others" living amongst us. > Further, I think androgeny is the future. How will I pull that off and it > is > so not me on the extrerior. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 16:37:07 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:37:07 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Alan Davey will back to see you soon Message-ID: I am okay with telepathy when speaking of contact with the non humans or future mutations- that's basically how it's done. Humans are as yet very crude and dangerous and I recommend avoiding even speach woth those, unless you know they are hawkwind people or something. On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > failure in telepathy, that's kinda good, it may be valid sometimes, but > it's > not reliable, and I wouldn't want that burden anyway. I may get flashes, > that's all, mastery over that sort of thing could be dangerous. Thought is > energy is ... I don't know. From a few life experiences I believe > sometimes there's more than synchronicity at work, since I had no knowledge > about some of the things I dreamed that were actualized, subconscious, > coincidence, maybe, but I don't think so. > I'll still practice my Psi Power,. Maybe there's still hope for me to > evolve. Mike, I already know what you're thinking of that last sentence, > since I know you, and I know how you feel about telepathy, and what is the > ultimate realization in evolution. I'll just be the best Mary Bruce I can > be, and try to help others feel better after I've been around them. I > don't > know how much we can do to raise the vibrational level we seem to be at > than > to live what we spew. > > Love, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of mike c > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:13 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up > > On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> ha, sorry, you lost me, Mike > > That's okay, I still have Suzanne, whatever that means and even thought > she's in New York. It's not like you were here in dallas either.. > > Besides, 'll take "angry crazy" over high maintenance anyway (no offense), > and you get a failing grade in telepathy. > There are so many "others" living amongst us. > Further, I think androgeny is the future. How will I pull that off and it > is > so not me on the extrerior. > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 28 18:39:38 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:39:38 -0400 Subject: since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: your early Christmas gift will keep you alive. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:25 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up please tell me ww3 is not really about to kill me. i've just come in with what looks like cosmic aid concerning my man-tent, and I've just opened a box with vinyl copies of stellar and looking as an early xmas gift. is this a trick?? On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > failure in telepathy, that's kinda good, it may be valid sometimes, > but it's not reliable, and I wouldn't want that burden anyway. I may > get flashes, that's all, mastery over that sort of thing could be > dangerous. Thought is energy is ... I don't know. From a few life > experiences I believe sometimes there's more than synchronicity at > work, since I had no knowledge about some of the things I dreamed that > were actualized, subconscious, coincidence, maybe, but I don't think > so. > I'll still practice my Psi Power,. Maybe there's still hope for me to > evolve. Mike, I already know what you're thinking of that last > sentence, since I know you, and I know how you feel about telepathy, > and what is the ultimate realization in evolution. I'll just be the > best Mary Bruce I can be, and try to help others feel better after > I've been around them. I don't know how much we can do to raise the > vibrational level we seem to be at than to live what we spew. > > Love, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:13 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: since Alan Davey has been brought up > > On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> ha, sorry, you lost me, Mike > > That's okay, I still have Suzanne, whatever that means and even > thought she's in New York. It's not like you were here in dallas either.. > > Besides, 'll take "angry crazy" over high maintenance anyway (no > offense), and you get a failing grade in telepathy. > There are so many "others" living amongst us. > Further, I think androgeny is the future. How will I pull that off and > it is so not me on the extrerior. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 28 18:55:02 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:55:02 -0500 Subject: (OFF) since Alan Davey has been brought up Message-ID: On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > your early Christmas gift will keep you alive. if only dinner at Donna's was included. the quarantine goes on and on why me?? pic of dave on reverse of solo LP fantastic and the magic happend Pierre got his Church of HW volume 2 From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Aug 29 07:43:01 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 07:43:01 -0400 Subject: (OFF) since Alan Davey has been brought up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If I could arrange it... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike c Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:55 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: (OFF) since Alan Davey has been brought up On 8/28/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > your early Christmas gift will keep you alive. if only dinner at Donna's was included. the quarantine goes on and on why me?? pic of dave on reverse of solo LP fantastic and the magic happend Pierre got his Church of HW volume 2 From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Aug 30 18:39:16 2013 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (Gary Shindler) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:39:16 -0500 Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] A Case For Sonic Attack: Hawkwind's Space Ritual 40 Years On Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > From: Al Clark > Date: August 30, 2013, 8:33:02 AM CDT > To: up-tight > Subject: [Up-Tight] A Case For Sonic Attack: Hawkwind's Space Ritual 40 Years On > Reply-To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com > > "Hawkwind at the height of their powers were as good as any of their > German contemporaries... and they were at the height of their powers > when they recorded the live album Space Ritual, says Joe Banks." > > http://thequietus.com/articles/13222-space-ritual-hawkwind-review-anniversary > > Al > __._,_.___ > Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) > RECENT ACTIVITY: > Visit Your Group > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest ? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use ? Send us Feedback > . > > __,_._,___ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Aug 30 20:51:21 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:51:21 -0400 Subject: [Up-Tight] A Case For Sonic Attack: Hawkwind's Space Ritual 40 Years On In-Reply-To: <08148715-2D45-43F2-BF6A-69417412F2C1@yahoo.com> Message-ID: HI Gary, I hope you've been having a nice summer. Tim and I are psyched for the fall with the shows. July was hot it nearly killed us. Lester Banks of Rolling Stone reviewed SR comparing it to Blows Against The Empire, despite the fact there were a few years difference, well the Hawkwind won out. Space Ritual is still 1 of my all time favorites, part of my top ten. I think we'll rock out, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Gary Shindler Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 6:39 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] A Case For Sonic Attack: Hawkwind's Space Ritual 40 Years On Begin forwarded message: > From: Al Clark > Date: August 30, 2013, 8:33:02 AM CDT > To: up-tight > Subject: [Up-Tight] A Case For Sonic Attack: Hawkwind's Space Ritual > 40 Years On > Reply-To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com > > "Hawkwind at the height of their powers were as good as any of their > German contemporaries... and they were at the height of their powers > when they recorded the live album Space Ritual, says Joe Banks." > > http://thequietus.com/articles/13222-space-ritual-hawkwind-review-anni > versary > > Al > __._,_.___ > Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) > RECENT ACTIVITY: > Visit Your Group > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . 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