From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Apr 1 08:30:45 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:30:45 +0800 Subject: [Hawkwind] FW: [Up-Tight] Return of the Time Lord In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 'And, as if Moorcock weren?t enough, they recently recorded with another sci-fi icon - Star Trek?s William Shatner. After TV?s Captain Kirk recorded their hit, Silver Machine, on covers album he released, Brock asked him to add vocals to another tune, Sonic Attack. Brock says: ?It?s a fantastic undertaking, Sonic Attack with William Shatner doing the spoken bit. ?He actually recorded Silver Machine in America for his album. It was a horrible album. But he had all these famous stars on it as well, that was the strangest thing. ?But that?s how we got him, because of Silver Machine. We actually got in touch with him and asked him if he?d like to do Sonic Attack - and he just did it and then we took it on from there.? Shatner recorded his vocals in the States and sent them to Devon - meaning that, although they?re together on record, he and Brock have not never met.' Interesting. And it seems that Nik Turner is recording with William Shatner too. On 31 March 2013 16:37, abra cadabra wrote: > SONIC ATTACK with William Shatner!!! Good Heavens, i though Moorcock was > baroque/burlesque enough!!! > > > 2013/3/31 Christian Mumford > > > ** > > > > > > *From:* Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com [mailto:Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com] *On > > Behalf Of *aclark23 at sympatico.ca > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:40 PM > > *To:* Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* [Up-Tight] Return of the Time Lord > > > > > > > > > > > > "Despite creating one of the finest post apocalyptic musical visions of > > the 1970s with groundbreaking album, Warrior on the Edge of Time, > Hawkwind > > founder Dave Brock is strangely unable to pronounce one particular word. > > > > He tries several times - "Post apolectic..ugh, what is it? > > Post-apopalytic...apocalyptic," before finally giving up and laughing: > "You > > know what I mean!" > > > > He admits his inability to say the word has caused problems when playing > > Warrior live. But he's come up with a way round it. He grins: "Obviously > I > > have to say this onstage sometimes! So I get all the whole band and say, > > `Right, come on everybody, I want you all to say, "Post apopalyptic!" And > > the audience too. And everybody gets into a terrible state."" > > > > > > > http://www.lep.co.uk/lifestyle/entertainment/music/return-of-the-time-lord-1-5540132 > > > > Al > > > > __._,_.___ > > Reply via web post< > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hawkwind/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwYjhqdjl2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxNTI1OQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUyMTI5OTgEbXNnSWQDNTk4NjYEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzY0NzE4Nzg3?act=reply&messageNum=59866> > Reply > > to sender > > < > royalistradio at hotmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20FW%3A%20%5BUp-Tight%5D%20Return%20of%20the%20Time%20Lord> > Reply > > to group > > < > Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20FW%3A%20%5BUp-Tight%5D%20Return%20of%20the%20Time%20Lord> > Start > > a New Topic< > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hawkwind/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJkZGhuYTVuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxNTI1OQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUyMTI5OTgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDbnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzY0NzE4Nzg3> > Messages > > in this topic< > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hawkwind/message/59866;_ylc=X3oDMTM1ZmZoMnZyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxNTI1OQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUyMTI5OTgEbXNnSWQDNTk4NjYEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzY0NzE4Nzg3BHRwY0lkAzU5ODY2 > >(1) > > Recent Activity: > > > > > > Visit Your Group< > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hawkwind;_ylc=X3oDMTJkdmZhY3I5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMxNTI1OQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUyMTI5OTgEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxMzY0NzE4Nzg3 > > > > Hawkwind e-group! The world's #1 and greatest e-source for Hawkwind fans > > -- created and maintained by Hawkwind fans! > > [image: Yahoo! Groups]< > http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJjNDcxOW9xBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzMxNTI1OQRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUyMTI5OTgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDZ2ZwBHN0aW1lAzEzNjQ3MTg3ODc- > > > > Switch to: Text-Only< > Hawkwind-traditional at yahoogroups.com?subject=Change+Delivery+Format:+Traditional > >, > > Daily Digest< > Hawkwind-digest at yahoogroups.com?subject=Email+Delivery:+Digest>? > > Unsubscribe > ? Terms > > of Use ? Send us Feedback > > < > ygroupsnotifications at yahoogroups.com?subject=Feedback+on+the+redesigned+individual+mail+v1 > > > > . > > > > __,_._,___ > > > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Apr 4 10:13:05 2013 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:13:05 -0400 Subject: Iain M. Banks diagnosed with gall bladder cancer. :-( Message-ID: I just read on the Grauniad this morning that author Iain M. Banks has been diagnosed with gall bladder cancer and is not expected to live for more than about a year. :-( This is terrible news. I love his Culture novels, and it's a huge shame that such a talent will be lost at such a relatively young age. :-( http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/apr/03/iain-banks-cancer-statement-full Cheers, Paul. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 4 11:22:31 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:22:31 +0100 Subject: Iain M. Banks diagnosed with gall bladder cancer. :-( In-Reply-To: <534AC056-0F3B-4841-8E14-D9E454EEFAE1@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 04/04/2013 15:13, Paul Mather wrote: > I just read on the Grauniad this morning that author Iain M. Banks has been diagnosed with gall bladder cancer and is not expected to live for more than about a year. :-( > > This is terrible news. I love his Culture novels, and it's a huge shame that such a talent will be lost at such a relatively young age. :-( It's a peculiar universe where someone so smart, friendly and funny can be downed by a cosmic ray left over from the Big Bang, but it seems to be the one we're in. It's a shame for his family, fans, and all his friends. I hope what time he has, he and Adele are able to enjoy. I'm just trying to work out whether it'd be a good idea to persuade the locals to hold an early wake at his local pub, and invite Iain. I kinda suspect he'd like that. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 5 05:32:37 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:32:37 +0100 Subject: Anyone going to Preston? Message-ID: I should be there tonight. Aynone fancy a beer beforehand? FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM Thu Apr 4 02:43:11 2013 From: anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM (abra cadabra) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 08:43:11 +0200 Subject: OT: Daevid Allen=CIA / tin foil hat + Robotussin DM / Radiohead Message-ID: I've been sorting through RADIOHEAD post their 90s unpalpable (mostly) rock stuff towards their millienium non-rock stuff and had this to say to Dr. Scott in Denmark. "Try to be in a "metatemporal" mode with later abstract Radiohead stuff. >From the "Kid A", "Amnesiac", "Hail To The Thief", "In Rainbows" and "The King Of Limbs" albums, i.e. post 2000 millienia they REALLY got interesting. It is alot like the band are projecting Super Villain prophecy on Korova Milk bar dosage and post-psych Art New Wave, like if Can were strung out on meth in jumpsuits and Clockwork Orange bowler hats babbling in NadSat ala Chrome, thrashing about with electronics and loops. It really is "heavy coded" stuff, not straighforward, but once you "get it" or get past the abstract coded noise and babble, albums like "In Rainbows" is Brutal like a 60s Marvel comic or thrashy like Giant Transforming Robot fights. They use alot of comic book design on their later LP s as well." Other wise i have grown a bit weary of my own Magickal Existence on The Brink of Utopia (Post Apologetic): No Way Out: The Other Way Out in Northern Ireland... Praha magica rococco out yer arse in COIL. PS: "How To Destroy Angels" so are they (The Magicians in COIL) gonna KILL VISHNU THEN?? Ya Ho Wah? HOW TO SLAY GODS SERAPHS??? THE ANGELS CLOSEST TO GOD??? For Scandinavian fans: "Lillebror ser sorte fugler fra sykehusvinduet / hva het den skumle Danske TV serien ca 1998?" rgds Peter Chris From anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM Fri Apr 5 19:45:40 2013 From: anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM (Abra Cadabra) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 01:45:40 +0200 Subject: Captain Jesus & The Sunray Dream Message-ID: i have uploaded the crazy garage punk 2 very ltd. mid 90s LPs by CAPTAIN JESUS & THE SUNRAY DREAM "All Thanks To The Lord Jesus Christ Amen" and "The Day That Nebulon Exploded" with Ron Tree on bass just before joining the Hawks on the 1995 spring tour (where i saw the play a crazy night out at The Limelight in NYC) Here: ENJOY; http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3591358/Captain%20Jesus%20%26%20The%20Sunray%20Dream.zip From anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM Sat Apr 6 04:40:22 2013 From: anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM (Abra Cadabra) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 10:40:22 +0200 Subject: paging Mike Coleman Message-ID: pleez get in touch Mike in Tejas........ Christian. From anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM Sat Apr 6 05:00:19 2013 From: anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM (Abra Cadabra) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 11:00:19 +0200 Subject: Fwd: [Hawkwind] Wanted: Live & Beyond by Bedouin, Zodiac Mindwarp, We... 'tis Futile! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My music wantlist is getting much smaller.... investing in vinyl and CD: Most wanted: Zodiac Mindwarp live CD, Earth/Flying Hat Band 12", Deep Freeze Mice, Deviants, 5:15, Cardiacs, Chameleons boots, Bedouin Live & Beyond, Porcupine Tree Futile (fat chance), WE 1st CD, Ym:Stammen,.......... will pay good prices for above, but below eBay rates LOL. Also the Van Der Graaf "Shepherds Bush 2005" bootleg DVD. 06/04/13 CD WANTLIST: Alien Sex Fiend - Maximum Security (1985) (CD) Alien Sex Fiend - It - The Album (1986) (CD) Alien Sex Fiend - The Legendary Batcave Tapes (1993) (CD) Daevid Allen - Gentle Genie (CD) Daevid Allen - Sixty Minutes With... (CD) Daevid Allen - Gong On Acid 1973 (CD) Bedouin - Live & Beyond (remaster CD) Body Count - Body Count ("clean version" w/Jello Biafra) Bolt Thrower - War (live CD) David Bowie - David Bowie (remaster CD) David Bowie - Let's Dance (remaster CD) David Bowie - Tonight (remaster CD) David Bowie - Never Let Me Down (remaster CD) David Bowie - Tin Machine (remaster CD) David Bowie - Tin Machine II (remaster CD) David Bowie - Black Tie White Noise (remaster CD) David Bowie - Outside (remaster CD) David Bowie - Earthling (remaster CD) David Bowie - "Hours..." (remaster CD) David Bowie - Heathen (remaster CD) David Bowie - Reality (remaster CD) David Bowie - The Next Day deluxe ed. (new 2013 CD) The Brain Surgeons - Piece Of Work (1999) (CD) The Brain Surgeons - Black Hearts Of Soul (2009) (CD) Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come - Jam [Cherry Red/Esoteric remaster CD] Cardiacs - Archive Cardiacs (1977-1979) (CD) Cardiacs - Seaside (CD) Cardiacs - On Land And In The Sea (CD) Cardiacs - All That Glitters Is A Mare's Nest (CD) Cardiacs - Sing To God Part 1 (CD) Cardiacs - Live (CD) Cathedral - The Last Spire (new 2013 CD) The Chameleons - Northern Songs (Bone Idol label) (CD) The Chameleons - Hey Mr. Undecided: live at Camden Palace (CD) Christian Death feat. 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(CD) Edward Ka-Spel - Down In The City Of Heartbreak and Needles (compilation CD) Edward Ka-Spel - Dream Logik part one (CD) Edward Ka-Spel - Dream Logik part two (CD) Edward Ka-Spel - Dream Logik X (A Small Voyage In Three Parts) (CD) Edward Ka-Spel - The Painted River of Regrets (CD) Edward Ka-Spel - Burning Church [single] (bandcamp CD-R) Edward Ka-Spel - Trapped In Amber b/w Christmas On The Moon EP (bandcamp CD-R) Edward Ka-Spel - Happy New Year b/w What Goes Around EP (bandcamp CD-R) Edward Ka-Spel - Absence Of Evidence [2013 remaster] (Bandcamp CD-R of 2001 LP) Edward Ka-Spel - Fragments of Illumina (CD) Edward Ka-Spel - Melancholics Anonymous (CD) Edward Ka-Spel - Ghost Logik (3CD+DVD) Edward Ka-Spel - Red Sky at Night (w/ Alena Boykova) (bandcamp CD-R) Edward Ka-Spel/The Silverman - The Whispering Wail (bandcamp CD-R) The Silverman - Finisterrre (bandcamp CD-R) The Silverman - Elemental (Bandcamp CD-R) The Silverman - Dream Cell (Bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - The Maria Sessions (bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - Human Radio (bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - Come Out From The Shadows (bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - Come Out From The Shadows Volume 2 (Bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - The Creature That Tasted Sound (Bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - Crushed Mementos (Bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - All The King's Sessions (Bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - Any Day Now Secrets (Bandcamp CD-R) The Legendary Pink Dots - Chemical Playschool vol. 11-13 (3CD box) Kraan - Tournee (1980) Kraan - Soul of Stone (1991) Kraan - Through (2003) Krokodil - An Invisible World Revealed (CD) Magic Muscle - The Pipe, The Roar, The Grid [12" vinyl LP] Magic Mushroom Band - Process Of Illumination (CD) Magic Mushroom Band - Live (CD) Magic Mushroom Band - R U Spaced Out 2 (CD) Magic Mushroom Band - Sixty Minutes With (CD) Magic Mushroom Band - Spaced Out III: Outtakes And Spacecakes (CD) Marillion - Live in Glasgow (Racket 3, 1993) / Front Row Club Issue 05 (FRC-05, The Barrowlands, Glasgow, Scotland, 4 December 1989) Marillion - The Making of Brave (Racket 6, 1995, reissued 2001) Marillion - Marillion Rochester (2 CDs, Racket 8, 1998) - given away free to those who contributed to the "Tour Fund" for the 1997 American tour. 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The world's #1 and greatest e-source for Hawkwind fans -- created and maintained by Hawkwind fans! [image: Yahoo! Groups] Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest? Unsubscribe ? Terms of Use ? Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ From anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM Sat Apr 6 07:00:50 2013 From: anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM (Abra Cadabra) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 13:00:50 +0200 Subject: recent Hawkwind / Bee As Such Message-ID: I heard a bad audience recording of last years Brisfest (there i was completely wasted out of work and down), the HOTMG and WOTEOT stuff sounds tremendous however. Lets hope according to the recent Twit msgs and insane banter on FB that some Tribute act doesen't go Nik'in the HW name with a wad of cash from the Warrior remaster with a fat american lawyer, with ties to "da Family, kapeesh"=? And speaking of bankrupcy, check out the Amon Duul II download only "Bee As Such" album, it really is tremendous and availible from the AD2 website. Maybe if enough people purchase it we get a CD proper. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Apr 11 17:18:19 2013 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 22:18:19 +0100 Subject: HW Warrior on the Edge of Time Tour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ________________________________ Hi Folks, ? Anyone catch the Warrior tour? That was one hell of a show! I know Assault and Battery, Golden Void and Magnu have long been in the set list and about 10 years ago, when Simon House was guesting, Spiral Galaxy 28948 made a welcome appearance. I even remember hearing a two minute version of Kings of Speed tacked on to something as part of a encore in the 80?s, but correct me if I?m wrong, I don?t think Nik Turner?s quirky ?Dying Seas? or Brock?s sublime ?Demented Man? have been played on stage before this tour? Both sounded superb played live!! I consider myself very fortunate indeed that I have lost count of the number of times I?ve seen HW since the first time in June 77, but this gig was certainly in my top three of all time and I hope to hell that this tour appears on DVD or a CD cos it needs to be? available for all to hear. Dead Fred on violin and the Sax player from HipiersoniK (sorry I don?t know his name) both contributed enormously to the rich sound that the needed to be brought to the stage to do ?Warrior? justice and I?ve now come to the conclusion that Niall Hone (IMHO) is one best HW bass players I?ve seen on stage.? The lightshow just gets better every show (Dave had to wear shades as it was that bright!) as do the dancers. Of course, all HW gigs are great but?there are certain?shows where, every now again,?where everything?just fall into place and you leave the venue knowing that you have just seen and heard something very special indeed ? for me this was one of those occasions. ?Mick??? From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 12 10:14:17 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:14:17 +0100 Subject: Now there's an idea... Message-ID: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22113326 -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From steve.bishop at DB.COM Fri Apr 12 10:24:03 2013 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:24:03 +0100 Subject: Now there's an idea... [I] In-Reply-To: <516816B9.1040605@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Classification: For internal use only I must confess to having broadcast lots of HW gigs via my mobile phone to one of my best mates - but the mitigating factor here is that he has panic attacks if he goes beyond his village borders so hasn't been able to venture more than a mile from home or to get to see his favourite band since the 90's - which is heartbreaking for me as we used to go to plenty of HW gigs together when he was well. He dearly wishes that HW would do a local gig but the chances are very slim so my 'mobile podcasts' are the closest he can get to being there with me ..... BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote on 12/04/2013 15:14:17: > From: > > Mike Holmes > > To: > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET, > > Date: > > 12/04/2013 15:16 > > Subject: > > Now there's an idea... > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22113326 > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional corporate and regulatory EU disclosures and to http://www.db.com/unitedkingdom/content/privacy.htm for information about privacy. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Apr 12 10:35:44 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 09:35:44 -0500 Subject: Now there's an idea... [I] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am close to that but not exactly!! will explain later really!! On 4/12/13, Steve Bishop wrote: > Classification: For internal use only > > > I must confess to having broadcast lots of HW gigs via my mobile phone to > one > of my best mates - but the mitigating factor here is that he has panic > attacks > if he goes beyond his village borders so hasn't been able to venture more > than > a mile from home or to get to see his favourite band since the 90's - which > is > heartbreaking for me as we used to go to plenty of HW gigs together when he > was well. He dearly wishes that HW would do a local gig but the chances are > very slim so my 'mobile podcasts' are the closest he can get to being there > with me ..... > > > > > BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote on > 12/04/2013 15:14:17: > >> From: >> >> Mike Holmes >> >> To: >> >> BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET, >> >> Date: >> >> 12/04/2013 15:16 >> >> Subject: >> >> Now there's an idea... >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22113326 >> >> -- >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > --- > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you > are > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > strictly > forbidden. > > Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for > additional > corporate and regulatory EU disclosures and to > http://www.db.com/unitedkingdom/content/privacy.htm for information about > privacy. From kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK Fri Apr 12 10:48:38 2013 From: kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK (Ralph) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:48:38 -0400 Subject: Now there's an idea... Message-ID: If a tree falls in the woods and nobody filmed it on their phone and posted it online, did it really fall? From mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU Fri Apr 12 13:35:47 2013 From: mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:35:47 -0400 Subject: Now there's an idea... In-Reply-To: <516816B9.1040605@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I confess that I do not understand the mind set behind going to a concert and then spending the show looking through a viewfinder. However, I do have a ton of videos from such people, so a heartfelt "Thank you." Now, if only that guy at the Concrete Blonde Milwaukee show had actually been looking through the viewfinder... John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Apr 12 15:05:16 2013 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:05:16 -0700 Subject: Now there's an idea... In-Reply-To: <516845F3.1090605@exchange.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: We sat behind a couple of chickies the other night taking photos on their phone of themselves and the show. I find it annoying. I recall getting a disposable camera taken by security the last time I saw Dylan. It's not like the pictures would've been worth a crap! Interested about your Concrete Blonde experience: we drove?8 hours round trip to see Johnnette Napolitano in Tulsa and she was a mess. She yelled at the bartenders for clinking glass too loudly, she seldom completed a single song, she interspersed?the?short appearance struggling to read excerpts from her memoir, the experience was a big letdown. But her tantrum at?the?beginning sure chilled anyone using their phone. ________________________________ From: John McIntyre To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Now there's an idea... I confess that I do not understand the mind set behind going to a concert and then spending the show looking through a viewfinder. However, I do have a ton of videos from such people, so a heartfelt "Thank you." Now, if only that guy at the Concrete Blonde Milwaukee show had actually been looking through the viewfinder... John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM Sat Apr 13 06:29:34 2013 From: anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM (Abra Cadabra) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:29:34 +0200 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Apr 2013 to 13 Apr 2013 (#2013-54) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: THIS HUMAN IS CONDEMNED: Acid casualty with a repossessed car Viet Nam Vet playing air guitar its just the shit kickin speed takin drug addict neighbors downstairs --- i'll be re visiting old Mystic Village in CT, this summer Stateside, funny to think i have been on the EC so often years ago, stomping around NYC after flying in across the Atlantic. These days i am not used to travel. Fear of flying, mostly. Last Man To Fly, Sing While You May. "Never Reach The Stars". 2013/4/13 BOC-L automatic digest system > There are 6 messages totaling 227 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Now there's an idea... (4) > 2. Now there's an idea... [I] (2) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:14:17 +0100 > From: Mike Holmes > Subject: Now there's an idea... > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22113326 > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:24:03 +0100 > From: Steve Bishop > Subject: Re: Now there's an idea... [I] > > Classification: For internal use only > > > I must confess to having broadcast lots of HW gigs via my mobile phone to > one > of my best mates - but the mitigating factor here is that he has panic > attacks > if he goes beyond his village borders so hasn't been able to venture more > than > a mile from home or to get to see his favourite band since the 90's - > which is > heartbreaking for me as we used to go to plenty of HW gigs together when he > was well. He dearly wishes that HW would do a local gig but the chances are > very slim so my 'mobile podcasts' are the closest he can get to being there > with me ..... > > > > > BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote on > 12/04/2013 15:14:17: > > > From: > > > > Mike Holmes > > > > To: > > > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET, > > > > Date: > > > > 12/04/2013 15:16 > > > > Subject: > > > > Now there's an idea... > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22113326 > > > > -- > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > --- > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you > are > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > strictly > forbidden. > > Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for > additional > corporate and regulatory EU disclosures and to > http://www.db.com/unitedkingdom/content/privacy.htm for information about > privacy. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 09:35:44 -0500 > From: mike c > Subject: Re: Now there's an idea... [I] > > I am close to that but not exactly!! > will explain later > really!! > > > On 4/12/13, Steve Bishop wrote: > > Classification: For internal use only > > > > > > I must confess to having broadcast lots of HW gigs via my mobile phone to > > one > > of my best mates - but the mitigating factor here is that he has panic > > attacks > > if he goes beyond his village borders so hasn't been able to venture more > > than > > a mile from home or to get to see his favourite band since the 90's - > which > > is > > heartbreaking for me as we used to go to plenty of HW gigs together when > he > > was well. He dearly wishes that HW would do a local gig but the chances > are > > very slim so my 'mobile podcasts' are the closest he can get to being > there > > with me ..... > > > > > > > > > > BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote on > > 12/04/2013 15:14:17: > > > >> From: > >> > >> Mike Holmes > >> > >> To: > >> > >> BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET, > >> > >> Date: > >> > >> 12/04/2013 15:16 > >> > >> Subject: > >> > >> Now there's an idea... > >> > >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22113326 > >> > >> -- > >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > > > > > --- > > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If > you > > are > > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > > notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized > > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > > strictly > > forbidden. > > > > Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for > > additional > > corporate and regulatory EU disclosures and to > > http://www.db.com/unitedkingdom/content/privacy.htm for information > about > > privacy. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:48:38 -0400 > From: Ralph > Subject: Re: Now there's an idea... > > If a tree falls in the woods and nobody filmed it on their phone and > posted it online, did it really fall? > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:35:47 -0400 > From: John McIntyre > Subject: Re: Now there's an idea... > > I confess that I do not understand the mind set behind going to a > concert and then spending the show looking through a viewfinder. > > However, I do have a ton of videos from such people, so a heartfelt > "Thank you." > > Now, if only that guy at the Concrete Blonde Milwaukee show had actually > been looking through the viewfinder... > > John McIntyre > mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 12:05:16 -0700 > From: gary shindler > Subject: Re: Now there's an idea... > > We sat behind a couple of chickies the other night taking photos on their > phone of themselves and the show. I find it annoying. I recall getting a > disposable camera taken by security the last time I saw Dylan. It's not > like the pictures would've been worth a crap! > Interested about your Concrete Blonde experience: we drove 8 hours round > trip to see Johnnette Napolitano in Tulsa and she was a mess. She yelled at > the bartenders for clinking glass too loudly, she seldom completed a single > song, she interspersed the short appearance struggling to read excerpts > from her memoir, the experience was a big letdown. But her tantrum > at the beginning sure chilled anyone using their phone. > > > ________________________________ > From: John McIntyre > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:35 PM > Subject: Re: Now there's an idea... > > > I confess that I do not understand the mind set behind going to a concert > and then spending the show looking through a viewfinder. > > However, I do have a ton of videos from such people, so a heartfelt "Thank > you." > > Now, if only that guy at the Concrete Blonde Milwaukee show had actually > been looking through the viewfinder... > > John McIntyre > mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > > ------------------------------ > > End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Apr 2013 to 13 Apr 2013 (#2013-54) > *********************************************************** > From anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM Sat Apr 13 07:30:41 2013 From: anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM (Abra Cadabra) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:30:41 +0200 Subject: Christmas At Ground Zero Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t039p6xqutU From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Apr 14 12:45:49 2013 From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Ed Mundo) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 17:45:49 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars Message-ID: Hawkwind have posted some more information on the Forum HERE regarding the 'worrying twitter messages' from late March/early April.Here's a C+P of the post: "Hello folks, We need to explain a few things, but because of possible ongoing legal action, we will keep it brief, to the point and not dwell on all of the possible arguments and legal implications. Just before HawkEaster it was brought to our attention that Nik Turner has applied to have the Hawkwind trademark registered in his name. http://www.trademarkia.com/nik-turners- ... 76225.html We will give you all of the details, the implications to Hawkwind and our possible options asap. However tonight, we are trying to initiate discussions to try to sort all of this out amicably. We live in hope that a solution will be found that will not divide the fans and destroy the band. We really hope that this is possible. We are waiting for a response, so its out of our hands at the moment. As soon as we know anything further, you all will too... Thanks for your support." Seem's it's 'Nik Turner's Hawkwind' he is seeking to TM, and that Cleopatra Records are supporting him in the application and also have form in this area. I had noticed that there has been an element of use of Hawkwind and Ex-Hawkwind in posts and material regarding Nik's recent activity in the states. I wondered about it at the time, as I know TMs have to be actively defended or they are lost (hence Warner Bros etc. going after small buisnesses using 'Hobbit' etc.). My personal feelings are that it's all a bit tiresome, and a bit bloody minded on N.T.'s part, not to mention with little merit. My understanding is NT was an original member, but not strictly a founding member; that was DB and Mick Slattery and John Harrison who founded the band, then Terry Ollis joined, then Dik Mik and NT, and then Group X played at All Saint's Hall. And he's left once and been fired once, and not been in Hawkwind since the 80's and Hawkwind has existed continuously since he was in it. So US TM law notwithstanding, I don't see how NT could justify being entitled to have a 'Hawkwind' of his own? It's been 28 years so shouldn't he just get over it? And he already had a go once in the infamouse early 2000's court case (Hawkwind's POV on that HERE) Here are the links again as they don't always come out properly on the list:Hawkwind's post:http://hawkwindforum.freeforums.org/post98744.html#p98744Nik Turner's TM Application:http://www.trademarkia.com/nik-turners-hawkwind-85776225.htmlHW 2000s Court Case View:http://hawkwindforum.freeforums.org/post18095.html#p18095 Mundo From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 14 20:05:21 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:05:21 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I note that he is applying for "Nik Turner's Hawkwind.' It is *very* tedious and maybe just warrants being ignored. On 15 April 2013 00:45, Ed Mundo wrote: > Hawkwind have posted some more information on the Forum HERE regarding the > 'worrying twitter messages' from late March/early April.Here's a C+P of the > post: > "Hello folks, > We need to explain a few things, but because of possible ongoing legal > action, we will keep it brief, to the point and not dwell on all of the > possible arguments and legal implications. > Just before HawkEaster it was brought to our attention that Nik Turner has > applied to have the Hawkwind trademark registered in his name. > http://www.trademarkia.com/nik-turners- ... 76225.html > We will give you all of the details, the implications to Hawkwind and our > possible options asap. However tonight, we are trying to initiate > discussions to try to sort all of this out amicably. We live in hope that a > solution will be found that will not divide the fans and destroy the band. > We really hope that this is possible. We are waiting for a response, so its > out of our hands at the moment. As soon as we know anything further, you > all will too... > Thanks for your support." > Seem's it's 'Nik Turner's Hawkwind' he is seeking to TM, and that > Cleopatra Records are supporting him in the application and also have form > in this area. I had noticed that there has been an element of use of > Hawkwind and Ex-Hawkwind in posts and material regarding Nik's recent > activity in the states. I wondered about it at the time, as I know TMs have > to be actively defended or they are lost (hence Warner Bros etc. going > after small buisnesses using 'Hobbit' etc.). > My personal feelings are that it's all a bit tiresome, and a bit bloody > minded on N.T.'s part, not to mention with little merit. My understanding > is NT was an original member, but not strictly a founding member; that was > DB and Mick Slattery and John Harrison who founded the band, then Terry > Ollis joined, then Dik Mik and NT, and then Group X played at All Saint's > Hall. And he's left once and been fired once, and not been in Hawkwind > since the 80's and Hawkwind has existed continuously since he was in it. So > US TM law notwithstanding, I don't see how NT could justify being entitled > to have a 'Hawkwind' of his own? It's been 28 years so shouldn't he just > get over it? And he already had a go once in the infamouse early 2000's > court case (Hawkwind's POV on that HERE) > > > > Here are the links again as they don't always come out properly on the > list:Hawkwind's post: > http://hawkwindforum.freeforums.org/post98744.html#p98744Nik Turner's TM > Application: > http://www.trademarkia.com/nik-turners-hawkwind-85776225.htmlHW 2000s > Court Case View:http://hawkwindforum.freeforums.org/post18095.html#p18095 > Mundo From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Apr 14 20:19:23 2013 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 19:19:23 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If as stated Cleopatra have Chosen to involve themselves That is a real piece of Scum-baggery. Shame on you Cleopatra. I will not be buying any Future Cleopatra product. It's a shocking state of affairs. From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 14 21:22:29 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:22:29 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <516B478B.8070007@comcast.net> Message-ID: Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. On 15 April 2013 08:19, Rich W wrote: > If as stated Cleopatra have Chosen to involve themselves That is a real > piece of Scum-baggery. Shame on you Cleopatra. > > I will not be buying any Future Cleopatra product. It's a shocking state > of affairs. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 14 22:27:44 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (m "commode") Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:27:44 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: what do we make of PxR5 coming out on Cleo??? On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. > > > On 15 April 2013 08:19, Rich W wrote: > >> If as stated Cleopatra have Chosen to involve themselves That is a real >> piece of Scum-baggery. Shame on you Cleopatra. >> >> I will not be buying any Future Cleopatra product. It's a shocking state >> of affairs. >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 14 22:42:28 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (m "commode") Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:42:28 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: as i stated elsewhere, it sounds to me like somebody might want the USA to be "territory Nik" and no EX. ONLY my guess, but I was thinking it could then get into recordings, etc etc. I so agree that this issue returning is just too stifling at my age, can't imagine at their age. I think dave should do a "famous cure" recording :) :) On 4/14/13, m "commode" wrote: > what do we make of PxR5 coming out on Cleo??? > > > > On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. >> >> >> On 15 April 2013 08:19, Rich W wrote: >> >>> If as stated Cleopatra have Chosen to involve themselves That is a real >>> piece of Scum-baggery. Shame on you Cleopatra. >>> >>> I will not be buying any Future Cleopatra product. It's a shocking state >>> of affairs. >>> >> > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 14 23:57:03 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:57:03 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It just makes you want to groan. Nik seems to have other things going-- why not follow them? No money I suppose. There will be recordings. Cleopatra will put something out, but quality has never been an issue with them. They will still be 'NT's Wind,' if they manage that, anyway. On 15 April 2013 10:42, m "commode" wrote: > as i stated elsewhere, it sounds to me like somebody might want the > USA to be "territory Nik" and no EX. > ONLY my guess, but I was thinking it could then get into recordings, etc > etc. > > I so agree that this issue returning is just too stifling at my age, > can't imagine at their age. > > I think dave should do a "famous cure" recording :) :) > > > On 4/14/13, m "commode" wrote: > > what do we make of PxR5 coming out on Cleo??? > > > > > > > > On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. > >> > >> > >> On 15 April 2013 08:19, Rich W wrote: > >> > >>> If as stated Cleopatra have Chosen to involve themselves That is a real > >>> piece of Scum-baggery. Shame on you Cleopatra. > >>> > >>> I will not be buying any Future Cleopatra product. It's a shocking > state > >>> of affairs. > >>> > >> > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Apr 15 00:06:36 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (a "something" "man") Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:06:36 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > It just makes you want to groan. Nik seems to have other things going-- why > not follow them? No money I suppose. > > There will be recordings. Cleopatra will put something out, > but quality has never been an issue with them. > > They will still be 'NT's Wind,' if they manage that, anyway. Nik's getting pretty old, I'm thinkin' Cleopatra might really be the fire behind it, whetever it's really about. That link you provided a few weeks back seemd to hint at that, looking in reverse. From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Apr 15 00:14:40 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:14:40 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you browse their catalogue, they are advertising some fairly obscure titles under "Hawkwind'. I don't mind seeing extra HW related things on sale, like Huw's *Classical Guitar Tales*, but is hardly his best. In fact, nothing in their catalogue is anybody at their peak! So I agree, it probably them rather than Nik. Had they stuck with Space Ritual, it would have been better. On 15 April 2013 12:06, a "something" "man" wrote: > On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > It just makes you want to groan. Nik seems to have other things going-- > why > > not follow them? No money I suppose. > > > > There will be recordings. Cleopatra will put something out, > > but quality has never been an issue with them. > > > > They will still be 'NT's Wind,' if they manage that, anyway. > > > Nik's getting pretty old, I'm thinkin' Cleopatra might really be the > fire behind it, whetever it's really about. > That link you provided a few weeks back seemd to hint at that, looking > in reverse. > From martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM Mon Apr 15 00:36:12 2013 From: martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM (martyn white) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:36:12 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nik is 72, that makes me feel old.? He must have good royalties and his OAP as income. ________________________________ From: "a "something" "man"" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > It just makes you want to groan. Nik seems to have other things going-- why > not follow them? No money I suppose. > > There will be recordings.? Cleopatra? will put something out, > but quality has never been an issue with them. > > They will still be 'NT's Wind,' if they manage that, anyway. Nik's getting pretty old, I'm thinkin' Cleopatra might really be the fire behind it, whetever it's really about. That link you provided a few weeks back seemd to hint at that, looking in reverse. From martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM Mon Apr 15 00:41:25 2013 From: martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM (martyn white) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:41:25 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I saw him in Raleigh NC in 1995 under the name Nik Turner's Space Ritual.? I still have the T-shirt, don't know why I bought it, it has his ugly mug on the front that even the thick white make-up couldn't cover! ________________________________ From: Jonathan Smith To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:14 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars If you browse their catalogue, they are advertising some? fairly obscure? titles under "Hawkwind'. I don't mind seeing extra HW related things on sale, like Huw's *Classical Guitar Tales*, but is hardly his best. In fact, nothing in their catalogue is anybody at? their? peak! So I agree, it probably them rather than Nik. Had they stuck with Space Ritual, it would have been better. On 15 April 2013 12:06, a "something" "man" wrote: > On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > It just makes you want to groan. Nik seems to have other things going-- > why > > not follow them? No money I suppose. > > > > There will be recordings.? Cleopatra? will put something out, > > but quality has never been an issue with them. > > > > They will still be 'NT's Wind,' if they manage that, anyway. > > > Nik's getting pretty old, I'm thinkin' Cleopatra might really be the > fire behind it, whetever it's really about. > That link you provided a few weeks back seemd to hint at that, looking > in reverse. > From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Apr 15 02:49:12 2013 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 07:49:12 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <1366000572.18408.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I suspect that his royalties are not very good at all; sales of Hawkwind recordings that he is on, and all the other assorted projects that he has been involved in, are not going to be stellar. ________________________________ From: martyn white To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013, 5:36 Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars Nik is 72, that makes me feel old.? He must have good royalties and his OAP as income. ________________________________ From: "a "something" "man"" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > It just makes you want to groan. Nik seems to have other things going-- why > not follow them? No money I suppose. > > There will be recordings.? Cleopatra? will put something out, > but quality has never been an issue with them. > > They will still be 'NT's Wind,' if they manage that, anyway. Nik's getting pretty old, I'm thinkin' Cleopatra might really be the fire behind it, whetever it's really about. That link you provided a few weeks back seemd to hint at that, looking in reverse. From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Apr 15 02:51:38 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:51:38 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <1366008552.5058.YahooMailNeo@web171301.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I expect that he is not exactly rolling in cash. On 15 April 2013 14:49, Colin Allen wrote: > I suspect that his royalties are not very good at all; sales of Hawkwind > recordings that he is on, and all the other assorted projects that he has > been involved in, are not going to be stellar. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: martyn white > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013, 5:36 > Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars > > > Nik is 72, that makes me feel old. He must have good royalties > and his OAP as income. > > > > ________________________________ > From: "a "something" "man"" > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 12:06 AM > Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars > > > On 4/14/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > It just makes you want to groan. Nik seems to have other things going-- > why > > not follow them? No money I suppose. > > > > There will be recordings. Cleopatra will put something out, > > but quality has never been an issue with them. > > > > They will still be 'NT's Wind,' if they manage that, anyway. > > > Nik's getting pretty old, I'm thinkin' Cleopatra might really be the > fire behind it, whetever it's really about. > That link you provided a few weeks back seemd to hint at that, looking > in reverse. > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Apr 15 08:23:50 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 07:23:50 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <1366008552.5058.YahooMailNeo@web171301.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 15 Apr 2013, at 01:49 , Colin Allen wrote: > > I suspect that his royalties are not very good at all; sales of Hawkwind recordings that he is on, and all the other assorted projects that he has been involved in, are not going to be stellar. Yeah, it's hard to see Nik bringing in a lot of cash from his songwriting royalties from the HW back-catalog. Equally, I'm perfectly willing to believe Nik would instigate or participate willingly in an effort to trademark a "Nik Turner's Hawkwind", whether or not Cleopatra were involved. I'm not convinced that any of the parties in the "Hawkwind orbit" are necessarily either entirely scrupulous or have their heads entirely screwed on with matters of business and law (these not being fields we associate with membership in, or association with, Hawkwind). Plus, this is all stuff that has happened before, no? And it will doubtless go on while anyone is alive to do it. Yet I can't help but think that it doesn't matter too much. So what Nik (or anyone) trademark's "Nik Turner's Hawkwind"? Is it really going to generate any appreciable quantity of money, or take away any appreciable revenue from Hawkwind "proper"? I doubt it. Is it really legit, and have Brock & Co. the right to object? Sure, I can see that too. Seems fair that Nik could call himself "ex-Hawkwind" yet also that he should not use the term "Hawkwind in his organizational name. OK, fine. But ... seriously, even as a fan of "Hawkwind music", I just can't get emotional over yet another spat -- whoever's justified -- between different members, ex-members, etc. Whatever, guys: sort it out ... or not. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 15 10:00:01 2013 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:00:01 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <6670BF8C-97CC-4904-9B5F-573572B4014D@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Apr 15, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Yet I can't help but think that it doesn't matter too much. So what Nik (or anyone) trademark's "Nik Turner's Hawkwind"? Is it really going to generate any appreciable quantity of money, or take away any appreciable revenue from Hawkwind "proper"? I doubt it. Is it really legit, and have Brock & Co. the right to object? Sure, I can see that too. Seems fair that Nik could call himself "ex-Hawkwind" yet also that he should not use the term "Hawkwind in his organizational name. OK, fine. But ... seriously, even as a fan of "Hawkwind music", I just can't get emotional over yet another spat -- whoever's justified -- between different members, ex-members, etc. Whatever, guys: sort it out ... or not. I thought this was now de rigeur in Geezer (or Classic or Dinosaur or whatever) Rock bands? It seems to me to be standard practice nowadays to tour under the name "${FORMER_MEMBER}'s ${NAME_OF_BAND}", usually where ${FORMER_MEMBER} is a generation older than the rest of the touring band. :-) Come to think of it, it's not just rock bands: it's soul, R&B, do-wop, and anything that has enough age on it to attract the disposable income of the Baby Boomer (or even Generation X) crowd. Personally, I think it's a simple, healthy warning to the ticket-buying public. It lets them know that, yes, technically, they will be seeing a small subset of their once-favourite band, but, when it comes down to it, it won't be the authentic experience from the halcyon days they remember. I mean, if you saw a poster for "Ringo Starr's Beatles" or "Ronnie Wood's Rolling Stones," how could you NOT be forewarned that you weren't getting the real deal from bygone years? :-) I'm not entirely sure of the need to trademark, but maybe it is to have a clear case against bootleg t-shirt vendors and the likes? IANAL. Cheers, Paul. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Apr 15 10:34:30 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (a "something" "man") Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:34:30 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: forgive me placing a link to the UK forum, but if you read Jimski's comments, you can see where this _could_, _potentially_, be "narsty". http://hawkwindforum.freeforums.org/nik-turner-s-hawkwind-trademark-details-t5140-75.html Further, it has now been said that Dave's "Looking for Love", and "Stellar Variations" are coming out on Cleo. this is the gospel according to the I.E.M. My mind drifts to "TDB" from Onward... forgive me "heart of light" On 4/15/13, Paul Mather wrote: > On Apr 15, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> Yet I can't help but think that it doesn't matter too much. So what Nik >> (or anyone) trademark's "Nik Turner's Hawkwind"? Is it really going to >> generate any appreciable quantity of money, or take away any appreciable >> revenue from Hawkwind "proper"? I doubt it. Is it really legit, and have >> Brock & Co. the right to object? Sure, I can see that too. Seems fair >> that Nik could call himself "ex-Hawkwind" yet also that he should not use >> the term "Hawkwind in his organizational name. OK, fine. But ... >> seriously, even as a fan of "Hawkwind music", I just can't get emotional >> over yet another spat -- whoever's justified -- between different members, >> ex-members, etc. Whatever, guys: sort it out ... or not. > > > I thought this was now de rigeur in Geezer (or Classic or Dinosaur or > whatever) Rock bands? It seems to me to be standard practice nowadays to > tour under the name "${FORMER_MEMBER}'s ${NAME_OF_BAND}", usually where > ${FORMER_MEMBER} is a generation older than the rest of the touring band. > :-) Come to think of it, it's not just rock bands: it's soul, R&B, do-wop, > and anything that has enough age on it to attract the disposable income of > the Baby Boomer (or even Generation X) crowd. > > Personally, I think it's a simple, healthy warning to the ticket-buying > public. It lets them know that, yes, technically, they will be seeing a > small subset of their once-favourite band, but, when it comes down to it, it > won't be the authentic experience from the halcyon days they remember. I > mean, if you saw a poster for "Ringo Starr's Beatles" or "Ronnie Wood's > Rolling Stones," how could you NOT be forewarned that you weren't getting > the real deal from bygone years? :-) > > I'm not entirely sure of the need to trademark, but maybe it is to have a > clear case against bootleg t-shirt vendors and the likes? IANAL. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Apr 15 11:05:16 2013 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (strobridge jill) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:05:16 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Though I wonder how big the printing of "HAWKWIND" would be on the branding and logos and how small the print for "Nic Turner" would be. jill On 15 April 2013 15:00, Paul Mather wrote: > On Apr 15, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> Yet I can't help but think that it doesn't matter too much. So what Nik (or anyone) trademark's "Nik Turner's Hawkwind"? Is it really going to generate any appreciable quantity of money, or take away any appreciable revenue from Hawkwind "proper"? I doubt it. Is it really legit, and have Brock & Co. the right to object? Sure, I can see that too. Seems fair that Nik could call himself "ex-Hawkwind" yet also that he should not use the term "Hawkwind in his organizational name. OK, fine. But ... seriously, even as a fan of "Hawkwind music", I just can't get emotional over yet another spat -- whoever's justified -- between different members, ex-members, etc. Whatever, guys: sort it out ... or not. > > > I thought this was now de rigeur in Geezer (or Classic or Dinosaur or whatever) Rock bands? It seems to me to be standard practice nowadays to tour under the name "${FORMER_MEMBER}'s ${NAME_OF_BAND}", usually where ${FORMER_MEMBER} is a generation older than the rest of the touring band. :-) Come to think of it, it's not just rock bands: it's soul, R&B, do-wop, and anything that has enough age on it to attract the disposable income of the Baby Boomer (or even Generation X) crowd. > > Personally, I think it's a simple, healthy warning to the ticket-buying public. It lets them know that, yes, technically, they will be seeing a small subset of their once-favourite band, but, when it comes down to it, it won't be the authentic experience from the halcyon days they remember. I mean, if you saw a poster for "Ringo Starr's Beatles" or "Ronnie Wood's Rolling Stones," how could you NOT be forewarned that you weren't getting the real deal from bygone years? :-) > > I'm not entirely sure of the need to trademark, but maybe it is to have a clear case against bootleg t-shirt vendors and the likes? IANAL. > > Cheers, > > Paul. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Apr 15 11:15:00 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:15:00 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/15/13, strobridge jill wrote: > Though I wonder how big the printing of "HAWKWIND" would be on the > branding and logos and how small the print for "Nic Turner" would be. > > jill My instinct tells me Cleopatra knows the tricks should they choose them. In my case I am certainly not suggesting that anyone interrupt a good yawn. I am sure we all hope for a healthy cresendo and would do what we could. From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 15 11:22:16 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:22:16 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 15/04/2013 16:15, mike wrote: > On 4/15/13, strobridge jill wrote: >> Though I wonder how big the printing of "HAWKWIND" would be on the >> branding and logos and how small the print for "Nic Turner" would be. >> >> jill > > My instinct tells me Cleopatra knows the tricks should they choose them. Wasn't it Cleopatra that Ande Tucker headed out to the states to join? Anyone know if he's still with them? I (somewhat fuzzily) recall much fun in the 90s following Hawkwind tours with Ande. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Apr 15 11:29:06 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:29:06 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <516C1B28.60308@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 4/15/13, Mike Holmes wrote: > > Wasn't it Cleopatra that Ande Tucker headed out to the states to join? > Anyone know if he's still with them? I (somewhat fuzzily) recall much > fun in the 90s following Hawkwind tours with Ande. > > FoFP In a manner of speaking I suppose you could say that!! But I think he _might_ have been "sacked" :) :) In fact I should probably let him know I've not "sacked" him!!! it sounded like he hadn't sacked me first!! From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Tue Apr 16 06:04:15 2013 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:04:15 +0200 Subject: HW vs Nik on going..... Message-ID: I have been following this thread and it is pretty interesting. It will be interesting to see what happens with Queensryche.. Anyway, these guys are getting old and are not going to be playing Hawkwind shows in 20 years time. Nik just does not seem like the guy who is out for money. He was so nice and cool when I spoke to him at Herne Bay. I think he just wants to get out there and play music for people and clearly people in the USA still want to hear Hawkwind and Hawkwind never play in the USA. IT is logistically a nightmare and they would lose money so they don't play there. Whether trademarking Nik Turner's Hawkwind is a good or bad idea... who knows.... I will be surprised if NIk is out and touring and doing all this stuff in 5-10 years but you never know. He looked really frail 2 years ago when I saw Space Ritual but in Jan for the Herne Bay gig he was in top form and looked and sounded great and on top it.... In the end, there are people who still want to hear "old" Hawkwind music. Clearly Hawkwind still play some of Nik's songs like Master of the Universe and he plays a lot of songs he never wrote. But so many bands play songs they did not write so this is nothing new. We will see..... Peace, love and music. Scott From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Apr 17 09:40:10 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:40:10 -0400 Subject: HW vs Nik on going..... In-Reply-To: <52F66DAB374A5E409EDA53CF72671558264829BE13@exdkmbx001.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: I just hope Nik plays here in Boston, I'd love to experience Hawkwind live again, but that seems Highly unlikely, and they can't be blamed, coming over here to play is always a big hassle for them. It's really a shame, to make money the tour would be exhausting, and need to be extensive to reach fans who haven't seen Hawkwind in their area since the 70's, like folks in Texas. The cost up front would be outrageous for fuel, bookings, and keeping a road crew taken care of for that long would be a major expense, among many others. To Hawkwind, "We love you here in the states and wish you could return ." Nik as all the members of Space Ritual, and Hawkwind has always been very kind to me, I've always enjoyed the energy of his band's shows, sometimes the mix was kind of muddy, (maybe I was standing in the wrong space), now that I realize how important that is for sound. I've been in dead spots at shows, and it's awful. I always liked the name Space Ritual, that title is what turned me on to Hawkwind. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:04 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW vs Nik on going..... I have been following this thread and it is pretty interesting. It will be interesting to see what happens with Queensryche.. Anyway, these guys are getting old and are not going to be playing Hawkwind shows in 20 years time. Nik just does not seem like the guy who is out for money. He was so nice and cool when I spoke to him at Herne Bay. I think he just wants to get out there and play music for people and clearly people in the USA still want to hear Hawkwind and Hawkwind never play in the USA. IT is logistically a nightmare and they would lose money so they don't play there. Whether trademarking Nik Turner's Hawkwind is a good or bad idea... who knows.... I will be surprised if NIk is out and touring and doing all this stuff in 5-10 years but you never know. He looked really frail 2 years ago when I saw Space Ritual but in Jan for the Herne Bay gig he was in top form and looked and sounded great and on top it.... In the end, there are people who still want to hear "old" Hawkwind music. Clearly Hawkwind still play some of Nik's songs like Master of the Universe and he plays a lot of songs he never wrote. But so many bands play songs they did not write so this is nothing new. We will see..... Peace, love and music. Scott From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Apr 17 09:49:31 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:49:31 -0400 Subject: HW vs Nik on going..... In-Reply-To: <52F66DAB374A5E409EDA53CF72671558264829BE13@exdkmbx001.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: off topic, but we're all o.k. here after Monday, only a few miles away, glad I'm not into marathons that was a real drag, I know you can relate, Scott, so I figured I'd let you know. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:04 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW vs Nik on going..... I have been following this thread and it is pretty interesting. It will be interesting to see what happens with Queensryche.. Anyway, these guys are getting old and are not going to be playing Hawkwind shows in 20 years time. Nik just does not seem like the guy who is out for money. He was so nice and cool when I spoke to him at Herne Bay. I think he just wants to get out there and play music for people and clearly people in the USA still want to hear Hawkwind and Hawkwind never play in the USA. IT is logistically a nightmare and they would lose money so they don't play there. Whether trademarking Nik Turner's Hawkwind is a good or bad idea... who knows.... I will be surprised if NIk is out and touring and doing all this stuff in 5-10 years but you never know. He looked really frail 2 years ago when I saw Space Ritual but in Jan for the Herne Bay gig he was in top form and looked and sounded great and on top it.... In the end, there are people who still want to hear "old" Hawkwind music. Clearly Hawkwind still play some of Nik's songs like Master of the Universe and he plays a lot of songs he never wrote. But so many bands play songs they did not write so this is nothing new. We will see..... Peace, love and music. Scott From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Apr 17 09:59:10 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:59:10 -0400 Subject: Off topic, Message-ID: I need advice on a set of headphones, I was given a set of Blackberries, but they buzz, in 1 channel at a certain bass frequency. can I get a set of cans for around $50, and what would you suggest. I'd dearly love to get 5.1 surround, but I need something practical that sounds good. I can't play my speakers as loud as I'd like since this is an elderly complex, I do get away with a fair amount, but sometimes I want to use phones, and hear it loud, for a short while anyway. I am careful, don't want to wind up deaf, too, that would be way worse than blind, I think, also I don't want to annoy my neighbors. I'd appreciate any suggestions, off list? Thanks, Mary From mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU Fri Apr 19 12:26:12 2013 From: mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:26:12 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jonathan Smith wrote: > Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. > To be honest, I search out Cleopatra releases. They were the only label to pick up Screams For Tina, for instance. John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Apr 20 16:51:09 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:51:09 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <51717024.8010802@exchange.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: On 19 Apr 2013, at 11:26 , John McIntyre wrote: > Jonathan Smith wrote: >> Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. > > To be honest, I search out Cleopatra releases. They were the only label to pick up Screams For Tina, for instance. And to give them their due, Cleopatra put out HW stuff in the '90s that US fans, at least, were hard pressed to find elsewhere. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sat Apr 20 19:37:30 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 00:37:30 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have a few of their albums, but that is their reputation. For example, they brought out some rather doggy Ministry releases. I won't boycott them. ;) On 20 April 2013 21:51, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 19 Apr 2013, at 11:26 , John McIntyre > wrote: > > Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. > > > > To be honest, I search out Cleopatra releases. They were the only label > to pick up Screams For Tina, for instance. > > > And to give them their due, Cleopatra put out HW stuff in the '90s that US > fans, at least, were hard pressed to find elsewhere. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Apr 20 21:03:09 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:03:09 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Listening to KATMANDU flyer.. Nik's awfully potent on this pressing On 4/20/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > I have a few of their albums, but that is their reputation. For example, > they brought out some rather doggy Ministry releases. I won't boycott > them. ;) > > > On 20 April 2013 21:51, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> On 19 Apr 2013, at 11:26 , John McIntyre >> wrote: >> > Jonathan Smith wrote: >> >> Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. >> > >> > To be honest, I search out Cleopatra releases. They were the only >> > label >> to pick up Screams For Tina, for instance. >> >> >> And to give them their due, Cleopatra put out HW stuff in the '90s that >> US >> fans, at least, were hard pressed to find elsewhere. >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 21 00:50:06 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 23:50:06 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just imagine if the other one has it "Kathmandu Flyer" :) On 4/20/13, mike wrote: > Listening to KATMANDU flyer.. > Nik's awfully potent on this pressing > > On 4/20/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> I have a few of their albums, but that is their reputation. For example, >> they brought out some rather doggy Ministry releases. I won't boycott >> them. ;) >> >> >> On 20 April 2013 21:51, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >>> On 19 Apr 2013, at 11:26 , John McIntyre >>> wrote: >>> > Jonathan Smith wrote: >>> >> Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. >>> > >>> > To be honest, I search out Cleopatra releases. They were the only >>> > label >>> to pick up Screams For Tina, for instance. >>> >>> >>> And to give them their due, Cleopatra put out HW stuff in the '90s that >>> US >>> fans, at least, were hard pressed to find elsewhere. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Carl >>> >>> -- >>> Carl Edlund Anderson >>> http://www.carlaz.com/ >>> >> > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 21 05:20:54 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:20:54 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Or Catmandoo Flyover On 21 April 2013 05:50, mike wrote: > Just imagine if the other one has it "Kathmandu Flyer" > > :) > > > > On 4/20/13, mike wrote: > > Listening to KATMANDU flyer.. > > Nik's awfully potent on this pressing > > > > On 4/20/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> I have a few of their albums, but that is their reputation. For example, > >> they brought out some rather doggy Ministry releases. I won't boycott > >> them. ;) > >> > >> > >> On 20 April 2013 21:51, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> > >>> On 19 Apr 2013, at 11:26 , John McIntyre > > >>> wrote: > >>> > Jonathan Smith wrote: > >>> >> Cleopatra are known for sub-standard exploitative releases. > >>> > > >>> > To be honest, I search out Cleopatra releases. They were the only > >>> > label > >>> to pick up Screams For Tina, for instance. > >>> > >>> > >>> And to give them their due, Cleopatra put out HW stuff in the '90s that > >>> US > >>> fans, at least, were hard pressed to find elsewhere. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Carl > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Carl Edlund Anderson > >>> http://www.carlaz.com/ > >>> > >> > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 21 09:34:42 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 08:34:42 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/21/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: > Or Catmandoo Flyover lol I was thinking:can he get a roadie-ing gig again, and what if the band presents him with a real funky necklace that says "hawkwind" to wear on a chain. Then he can still record under whatever other names he wishes :) In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to say From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 21 10:00:55 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:00:55 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I want to know: Who came up with hawkwind, who nicknamed Nick with it, and can we (collectively) take some kind of "legal" "action" against that person for "mental duress" (does that work here?), IF, they still live..... ? On 4/21/13, mike wrote: > On 4/21/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> Or Catmandoo Flyover > > lol > > I was thinking:can he get a roadie-ing gig again, and what if the band > presents him with a real funky necklace that says "hawkwind" to wear > on a chain. > > Then he can still record under whatever other names he wishes :) > > In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to say > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Apr 21 11:30:28 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:30:28 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike, you wrote, " In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to say," I think plenty has been said, and those involved should settle the issue and get on with it. We shouldn't be involved, I have my opinion, but as you've said on topics, previously, at this point, "yawn." I don't write this with the intention of complaining about any statements made on the forums, it's just the issue, that's all, however, You do present a few interesting questions. If we ask all the original members, I wonder how they'd answer your question, and if there are some interesting stories that we could hear in good fun. I hope this gets resolved soon, as I'm sure we all do, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars I want to know: Who came up with hawkwind, who nicknamed Nick with it, and can we (collectively) take some kind of "legal" "action" against that person for "mental duress" (does that work here?), IF, they still live..... ? On 4/21/13, mike wrote: > On 4/21/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> Or Catmandoo Flyover > > lol > > I was thinking:can he get a roadie-ing gig again, and what if the band > presents him with a real funky necklace that says "hawkwind" to wear > on a chain. > > Then he can still record under whatever other names he wishes :) > > In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to say > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 21 11:35:18 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 10:35:18 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey!! I've been meaning to ask you if there is anything i can do to help the tragic situation with the cheering bostonians?? Have they come to their senses yet?? cue: robert calvert "marathon man" and "steppenwolf" ?? On 4/21/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > Mike, you wrote, " In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to > say," I think plenty has been said, and those involved should settle the > issue and get on with it. We shouldn't be involved, I have my opinion, but > as you've said on topics, previously, at this point, "yawn." I don't write > this with the intention of complaining about any statements made on the > forums, it's just the issue, that's all, however, You do present a few > interesting questions. > > If we ask all the original members, I wonder how they'd answer your > question, and if there are some interesting stories that we could hear in > good fun. > > I hope this gets resolved soon, as I'm sure we all do, > > Kaduflyer > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of mike > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:01 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars > > I want to know: > Who came up with hawkwind, who nicknamed Nick with it, and can we > (collectively) take some kind of "legal" "action" against that person for > "mental duress" (does that work here?), IF, they still live..... > > ? > > On 4/21/13, mike wrote: >> On 4/21/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >>> Or Catmandoo Flyover >> >> lol >> >> I was thinking:can he get a roadie-ing gig again, and what if the band >> presents him with a real funky necklace that says "hawkwind" to wear >> on a chain. >> >> Then he can still record under whatever other names he wishes :) >> >> In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to say >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Apr 21 12:04:21 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:04:21 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and what I mostly meant (sorry this is off topic) is we need to fix our bloodthirsty ways.... Life is not a f##cking sporting event, nor is catching bad guys otherwise it's jack boots, for yous and yous On 4/21/13, mike wrote: > Hey!! > I've been meaning to ask you if there is anything i can do to help the > tragic situation with the cheering bostonians?? > Have they come to their senses yet?? > > cue: robert calvert "marathon man" and "steppenwolf" ?? > > On 4/21/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> Mike, you wrote, " In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to >> say," I think plenty has been said, and those involved should settle the >> issue and get on with it. We shouldn't be involved, I have my opinion, >> but >> as you've said on topics, previously, at this point, "yawn." I don't >> write >> this with the intention of complaining about any statements made on the >> forums, it's just the issue, that's all, however, You do present a few >> interesting questions. >> >> If we ask all the original members, I wonder how they'd answer your >> question, and if there are some interesting stories that we could hear in >> good fun. >> >> I hope this gets resolved soon, as I'm sure we all do, >> >> Kaduflyer >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of mike >> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:01 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars >> >> I want to know: >> Who came up with hawkwind, who nicknamed Nick with it, and can we >> (collectively) take some kind of "legal" "action" against that person for >> "mental duress" (does that work here?), IF, they still live..... >> >> ? >> >> On 4/21/13, mike wrote: >>> On 4/21/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>> Or Catmandoo Flyover >>> >>> lol >>> >>> I was thinking:can he get a roadie-ing gig again, and what if the band >>> presents him with a real funky necklace that says "hawkwind" to wear >>> on a chain. >>> >>> Then he can still record under whatever other names he wishes :) >>> >>> In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to say >>> >> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Apr 22 04:24:59 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 04:24:59 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike, glad it's over didn't like living in a blatant police state. Good suggestions, I think a lot of folks would of got really upset if I'd played Urban Gorilla last week? Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 11:35 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars Hey!! I've been meaning to ask you if there is anything i can do to help the tragic situation with the cheering bostonians?? Have they come to their senses yet?? cue: robert calvert "marathon man" and "steppenwolf" ?? On 4/21/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > Mike, you wrote, " In reality I hate this situation, don't know what > to say," I think plenty has been said, and those involved should > settle the issue and get on with it. We shouldn't be involved, I have > my opinion, but as you've said on topics, previously, at this point, > "yawn." I don't write this with the intention of complaining about any statements made on the > forums, it's just the issue, that's all, however, You do present a few > interesting questions. > > If we ask all the original members, I wonder how they'd answer your > question, and if there are some interesting stories that we could hear > in good fun. > > I hope this gets resolved soon, as I'm sure we all do, > > Kaduflyer > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:01 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars > > I want to know: > Who came up with hawkwind, who nicknamed Nick with it, and can we > (collectively) take some kind of "legal" "action" against that person > for "mental duress" (does that work here?), IF, they still live..... > > ? > > On 4/21/13, mike wrote: >> On 4/21/13, Jonathan Smith wrote: >>> Or Catmandoo Flyover >> >> lol >> >> I was thinking:can he get a roadie-ing gig again, and what if the >> band presents him with a real funky necklace that says "hawkwind" to >> wear on a chain. >> >> Then he can still record under whatever other names he wishes :) >> >> In reality I hate this situation, don't know what to say >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Apr 22 23:34:37 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:34:37 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <4A5C7E83D7054CDBA9705DAC0203B881@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 4/22/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > Mike, glad it's over didn't like living in a blatant police state. Good > suggestions, I think a lot of folks would of got really upset if I'd played > Urban Gorilla last week? > Mary very clever wording, credit where due. now gimme that israeli pressing or I guarantee i will drive you "insane" :) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Apr 23 00:13:36 2013 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:13:36 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If I had it to give, you'd have it. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:35 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind Trademark Wars On 4/22/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: > Mike, glad it's over didn't like living in a blatant police state. > Good suggestions, I think a lot of folks would of got really upset if > I'd played Urban Gorilla last week? > Mary very clever wording, credit where due. now gimme that israeli pressing or I guarantee i will drive you "insane" :) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Apr 23 00:21:37 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:21:37 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For the sake of any of my fellow aging fans whom might have slowed down a little, Urban Guerilla and Kings of Speed just got realsed for "record store day", as 45 pic sleeves. For the sake of on topic, a Canadian suggested "N.o.T. Hawkwind", which I personally find infinitely amusuing and have been having fun to myself with the o. On 4/22/13, mike wrote: > On 4/22/13, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> Mike, glad it's over didn't like living in a blatant police state. Good >> suggestions, I think a lot of folks would of got really upset if I'd >> played >> Urban Gorilla last week? >> Mary > > very clever wording, credit where due. now gimme that israeli pressing > or I guarantee i will drive you "insane" :) > From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 23 09:19:46 2013 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:19:46 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23/04/2013 05:21, mike wrote: > For the sake of any of my fellow aging fans whom might have slowed > down a little, > Urban Guerilla and Kings of Speed just got realsed for "record store > day", as 45 pic sleeves. Thanks for the Heads-Up Mike. I just went out to buy them. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From andreas.stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Apr 23 13:23:00 2013 From: andreas.stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:23:00 GMT Subject: Hawkwind Trademark Wars In-Reply-To: <51768A72.6000802@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I bought the "Urban Guerilla" 7". Very good reproduction of the orginal cover in cardboard sleeve (compared to the German original I have). The photograph on the back is new to me cos it features Dave & Lemmy from the other side of the stage as seen on the front (the German issue features the front cover on the back). And "Brainbox Pollution" is the 7.24 min. full length studio version from "Parallel Universe" and plays at 33 rpm. So, it?s not just a simple re-issue... "Mike Holmes" schrieb: > On 23/04/2013 05:21, mike wrote: > > For the sake of any of my fellow aging fans whom might have slowed > > down a little, > > Urban Guerilla and Kings of Speed just got realsed for "record store > > day", as 45 pic sleeves. > > Thanks for the Heads-Up Mike. I just went out to buy them. > > FoFP > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Apr 24 09:53:17 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (gAng$tA $heE.T.) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:53:17 -0500 Subject: OFF) meanwhile..... Message-ID: "penny" for your thoughts?? :) :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRE5QcYWwcA blame "Portugal" :) Ned Ned Ludd From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Apr 24 10:23:34 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:23:34 -0500 Subject: OFF) meanwhile..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: quick disclamier: that link was provided for it's (hopefully) "artistic merit". I consider mysefl a "playa" in the "alien agenda". I'm just not saying whose or what that might mean :) On 4/24/13, gAng$tA $heE.T. wrote: > "penny" for your thoughts?? :) :) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRE5QcYWwcA > > blame "Portugal" :) > > Ned > > Ned Ludd > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Wed Apr 24 20:26:27 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:26:27 +0800 Subject: Nigel Potter's Graphics for the '10 Seconds of Forver Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZmq4xCxJuk Nigel Potter, who you may know as an original member of Gunslinger, but who is prolific artist and musician in his own right, produced some excellent graphics for Bob's poem. The version is of course from Space Ritual. Check of his free music here; http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... dID=213288 and http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id= ... 71&sk=wall The album Techophobian might be of special interest to Hawkwind (and Tim Leary) fans; http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEB2C4BDB2A7C424E From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Apr 25 00:14:03 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:14:03 -0500 Subject: OFF) meanwhile..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Typically me, sorry to clarify: My heart wishes a better world. NOTHING BAD. I will clarify that I see myself as "a kind of alien". SPACE alien :) inner, outer, ether, whatever. I'm thinking entertainment is the last thing we need right now :) But I better suck my thoughts back in, the larvae production crews have not tended to their honeycombs On 4/24/13, mike wrote: > quick disclamier: > that link was provided for it's (hopefully) "artistic merit". > I consider mysefl a "playa" in the "alien agenda". I'm just not saying > whose or what that might mean :) > > > On 4/24/13, gAng$tA $heE.T. wrote: >> "penny" for your thoughts?? :) :) >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRE5QcYWwcA >> >> blame "Portugal" :) >> >> Ned >> >> Ned Ludd >> > From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Thu Apr 25 01:44:46 2013 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:44:46 +1000 Subject: BOC: Downunder Message-ID: A few months ago when I heard that BOC were coming to Australia I did three things: I told everyone I knew who I thought would be interested, I bought a ticket to their only Brisbane show, and I re-subscribed to BOC-L (just lurking so far). BOC were technically a 'support' act for the Brisbane gig (last Thursday at the Tivoli Theatre) but that didn't matter much to me since I've waited 33 years for them just to get here! I first heard 'Reaper' (on the radio) and AoF (when my school friend's sister bought the LP) in 1976 and I've been listening ever since. Rather than rewrite it all, here's page with some background info about how they came to be here in 2013 http://digitup.net.au/ and here is a link to someone else's review of the Brisbane show http://www.i94bar.com/reviews/live-diu-brisbane-2013.php But here's my take: I have to say I wasn't familiar with the Flamin' Groovies music but I liked their sound and I liked what they were doing. However, none of the songs grabbed me enough to stick in my memory. But it was still a good opener for the night. Two Oyster Cult were next. If I have one genuine complaint it's that they didn't play for very long, maybe one hour max - a downside of being a 'support' act, I know. (I'm a big fan of the Hoodoo Gurus - the headline band - but I bought my ticket to see BOC) When I got home I wrote down as many of the songs as I could remember them playing and I think I've got them even if I don't remember the order they were played, but I can't help thinking I've missed one or two. Anyway, they opened with 'The Red and the Black' which really cooked and got the place rocking! In no particular order, they also did 'Golden Age of Leather', 'Godzilla', 'Burnin' For You', 'Last Days of May', 'ME262', and 'Don't Fear the Reaper'. I think now they might have done 'Fire of Unknown Origin', too, but then again I may have just dreamed that one later on! It was interesting to note that when Richie Castellano played his ripping solos (and they really ripped) he made it look really difficult and that yet somehow he was pulling off the impossible - compare that to Buck who just made everything look easy and effortless, like just another day at the office! 'Last Days of May' was an epic extended version with Buck and Richie swapping licks - it was brilliant and by itself was worth the price of admission. Kasim Sulton on bass was cool and he got a few moments in the spotlight with a collage of song snippets that he has played or recorded with other artists (Todd Rungren, Joan Jett, Meatloaf), and he got a bass solo. The drummer, Jules Radino, was great but I don't know anything about him (except what I've since read on the web). Eric was a real mystery man behind his wrap-around shades. He was in good voice and he had a bit of banter between songs, and he acknowledged all parts of the theatre throughout the show. However, he wasn't happy with his guitar at one point and he seemed to just walk off the stage with it, so Buck stepped forward and improvised for five minutes until Eric was ready to come back on! WTF? Buck got a bit of help from Jules to get the crowd clapping along and to try to give the impression that this was all part of the show, but I'm sure it was just Buck noodling on his guitar to cover a hole in the performance. I don't even recall seeing Buck re-tune his guitar let alone walking off to complain to his guitar tech! Anyway, in spite of all that, it was all very entertaining and life-affirming. If I have a second genuine complaint it would be that it wasn't the original band at the height of their powers ... Having said all that, the truth is that the night really belonged to the Hoodoo Gurus. What a great live band and holy crap they just blew joint apart! They were loud, funny, fast, animated, fun, communicative, melodic, tight, hard rocking, and much more. I've since read that the guitarist, Brad Shepherd, is a BOC fan from when he heard them as a teenager, so presumably it was his idea to bring them out for this tour. A few of my mate's caught the side-show in Sydney last Saturday night. I thought that the Brisbane gig was too low volume and maybe a bit subdued (jet lag? nerves in front of their first Oz audience? restricted space on stage due the headline act's gear?) and when I spoke to one of my mates on Sunday he told me what a high energy and interactive show he'd seen. I suppose when you're headlining you get the best of the venue - full volume, maximum time, and the whole stage to yourself! It also sounds like the band was taken aback that the Oz fans knew all the words. I really wish I'd been able to fly down for that show. Just waiting for Albert to tour now! Maybe Joe and Alan would like to come along, too, for an antipodean sojourn! Pete And as a kind of 'Black and Blue Revisited', I'm off to see Black Sabbath tonight! :) From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Apr 25 04:27:35 2013 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:27:35 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: NEW AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO SHOW http://Aural-Innovations.com I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #307). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #307) Mooch - "Outside Inside" (from Beltane To Samhain) Osiris the Rebirth - "Intus Extra Caput Meum" (from unreleased 3rd album) Osiris the Rebirth - "Yesterdays Tomorrow" (from unreleased 3rd album) Mind! - "Cucumber From Mars" (from Stunde Null) Glowpeople - "Metaphorical" (from Things.) Soundtrap - "Framed Herrings" (from Words Mean Nothing) Electric Bird Noise - "Dunebuggy" (from Desert Jelly) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Howl in the Typewriter - "A Short Unprepared Speech" (from Godspunk Vol. 12) Chatham Rise - "Gone" (from Chatham Rise) Turkey Makes Me Sleepy - "The Sound Of Happy Laughter" (from The Fan Winkle Effect) Charles Rice Goff III - "Manic Depression" (from Electric LeLe Land) Quarkspace - "Return Of The Son Of Quarkallax" (from Spacefolds 12) The Telstar Sound Drone - "Evaporation" (from Comedown) Aural Innovations ID (by Gayle Ellett of Djam Karet) Papir - "I" (from III) Ernesto Diaz-Infante + Helena Espvall - "With Space In The Spirits" (from A Hallowed Shell of Ash and Rust) Astro Al - "Eclipse Of Blood" (from Ghosts & Ghouls) Nektar - "Remember The Future (Radio Edit)" (bonus track from Remember The Future reissue) http://Aural-Innovations.com From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Thu Apr 25 05:31:33 2013 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:31:33 +0100 Subject: OFF) meanwhile..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had almost forgotten Crass! On 25 April 2013 05:14, mike wrote: > Typically me, sorry > to clarify: My heart wishes a better world. > NOTHING BAD. > I will clarify that I see myself as "a kind of alien". SPACE alien :) > inner, outer, ether, whatever. > I'm thinking entertainment is the last thing we need right now :) > But I better suck my thoughts back in, the larvae production crews > have not tended to their honeycombs > > > On 4/24/13, mike wrote: > > quick disclamier: > > that link was provided for it's (hopefully) "artistic merit". > > I consider mysefl a "playa" in the "alien agenda". I'm just not saying > > whose or what that might mean :) > > > > > > On 4/24/13, gAng$tA $heE.T. wrote: > >> "penny" for your thoughts?? :) :) > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRE5QcYWwcA > >> > >> blame "Portugal" :) > >> > >> Ned > >> > >> Ned Ludd > >> > > > From richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM Thu Apr 25 05:50:46 2013 From: richard.lockwood at GMAIL.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:50:46 +0100 Subject: OFF) meanwhile..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve Ignorant has been to more of my gigs than I've been to his. :-) Cheers, Rich. I had almost forgotten Crass! > > > From kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK Thu Apr 25 07:42:48 2013 From: kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK (Ralph) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:42:48 -0400 Subject: BOC: Downunder Message-ID: > "Fire of Unknown Origin"?? Brisbane setlist here: http://www.hotrails.co.uk/history/2013.htm#130418 > and I re-subscribed to BOC-L This isn't really much of a BOC forum - if you want to chat about "BOC Down Under" with your fellow Oz fans, then you need to join the BOC Fans Forum: http://www.bocfans.com/forums/ > Just waiting for Albert to tour now! Maybe Joe and Alan would like to come along That last bit leads me to conclude you don't know about Blue Coupe - because if Albert DID ever tour over there, he's likely to do it with his guitarist (bro Joe)!! Maybe BOC aren't interested in making new music, but the Bouchards are: Check out their single - You (Like Vampires) - it's bloody, bloody good: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bluecoupe Buy their first CD "Tornado on the Tracks" - that's bloody good too: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bluecoupe2 ...and this weekend they're celebrating the launch of their second CD - "Million Miles More!" - can't wait - I'm guessing it too is going to be - wait for it - bloody good!! http://www.bluecoupeband.com/store/million_miles_more_cd_pre_order/ :-) PS: And don't miss Albert's monthly radio show, details here: http://www.hotrails.co.uk/blueskybag/albertbouchard/wfku.htm From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Apr 25 14:57:29 2013 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:57:29 -0500 Subject: "Anthem of Chaos" (Mournblade cover) by Espada Negra Message-ID: Indulging once again in shameless self-promotion :) I am please to introduce to you new release by Espada Negra (that is to say myself and Andy Gilham, ex of this list): a cover of "Anthem of Chaos" (originally by Mournblade) featuring Rich Jones of Mournblade as a Very Special Guest on lead guitar :) Espada Negra's "Anthem of Chaos" is now available for streaming and/or download from the following sites: http://espadanegra.bandcamp.com/album/anthem-of-cha-s https://soundcloud.com/espada-negra/anthem-of-cha-s-with-rich-j https://espada-negra.soundawesome.com As always, all Espada Negra songs are released on a strictly non-commercial basis, but we hope everyone will support the recently reunited Mournblade's various endeavours. THeir original early '80s demo of "Anthem of Chaos" can be found on the Anthology, Vol.1 CD, and you can check out their Web site at http://www.mournblade.me.uk/ (which I think links to other elements of their online presence). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Fri Apr 26 03:17:04 2013 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:17:04 +1000 Subject: BOC: Downunder In-Reply-To: <5001078164590307.WA.kirthgersenhotmail.co.uk@listserv.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: Hmm, aren't I a goose! You look away for, well, a few years and what do you know, things change! The last time I was here the Brain Surgeons were kicking along nicely! Apologies to the living, but perhaps I should also have checked the obits before posting (phew). But seriously, thanks for straightening those things out for me - and for not picking me up on misspelling Allen's name! The up side is I can now look forward to Blue Coupe touring Oz, and I will track down those CDs! So I did dream 'Fire ...' in the setlist! That's a pity because it sounded great in my imagination ... And BOC has dropped out of BOC-L conversations. OK, I thought things might've just been a bit quiet lately. I checked the list of subscribers when I rejoined and I recognised a few names. Pete :) Btw, Black Sabbath was absolutely brilliant last night! ________________________________________ From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ralph [kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:42 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: BOC: Downunder > "Fire of Unknown Origin"?? Brisbane setlist here: http://www.hotrails.co.uk/history/2013.htm#130418 > and I re-subscribed to BOC-L This isn't really much of a BOC forum - if you want to chat about "BOC Down Under" with your fellow Oz fans, then you need to join the BOC Fans Forum: http://www.bocfans.com/forums/ > Just waiting for Albert to tour now! Maybe Joe and Alan would like to come along That last bit leads me to conclude you don't know about Blue Coupe - because if Albert DID ever tour over there, he's likely to do it with his guitarist (bro Joe)!! Maybe BOC aren't interested in making new music, but the Bouchards are: Check out their single - You (Like Vampires) - it's bloody, bloody good: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bluecoupe Buy their first CD "Tornado on the Tracks" - that's bloody good too: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bluecoupe2 ...and this weekend they're celebrating the launch of their second CD - "Million Miles More!" - can't wait - I'm guessing it too is going to be - wait for it - bloody good!! http://www.bluecoupeband.com/store/million_miles_more_cd_pre_order/ :-) PS: And don't miss Albert's monthly radio show, details here: http://www.hotrails.co.uk/blueskybag/albertbouchard/wfku.htm From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Apr 26 03:54:22 2013 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 02:54:22 -0500 Subject: BOC: Downunder In-Reply-To: <7CA567D85278A94499F618843975EAD141F340A6CC@QUTEXMBX03.qut.edu.au> Message-ID: I enjoyed reading your report peter. thanks for sharing happy things. I heard Austraila is a pretty good place to be right now. quality not quantity. On 4/26/13, Peter Sondergeld wrote: > Hmm, aren't I a goose! You look away for, well, a few years and what do you > know, things change! The last time I was here the Brain Surgeons were > kicking along nicely! Apologies to the living, but perhaps I should also > have checked the obits before posting (phew). But seriously, thanks for > straightening those things out for me - and for not picking me up on > misspelling Allen's name! The up side is I can now look forward to Blue > Coupe touring Oz, and I will track down those CDs! > > So I did dream 'Fire ...' in the setlist! That's a pity because it sounded > great in my imagination ... > > And BOC has dropped out of BOC-L conversations. OK, I thought things > might've just been a bit quiet lately. I checked the list of subscribers > when I rejoined and I recognised a few names. > > Pete :) > Btw, Black Sabbath was absolutely brilliant last night! > > ________________________________________ > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf > Of Ralph [kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK] > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:42 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: BOC: Downunder > >> "Fire of Unknown Origin"?? > > Brisbane setlist here: > > http://www.hotrails.co.uk/history/2013.htm#130418 > >> and I re-subscribed to BOC-L > > This isn't really much of a BOC forum - if you want to chat about "BOC Down > Under" with your fellow Oz fans, then you need to join the BOC Fans Forum: > > http://www.bocfans.com/forums/ > >> Just waiting for Albert to tour now! Maybe Joe and Alan would like to come >> along > > That last bit leads me to conclude you don't know about Blue Coupe - because > if Albert DID ever tour over there, he's likely to do it with his guitarist > (bro Joe)!! Maybe BOC aren't interested in making new music, but the > Bouchards are: > > Check out their single - You (Like Vampires) - it's bloody, bloody good: > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bluecoupe > > Buy their first CD "Tornado on the Tracks" - that's bloody good too: > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bluecoupe2 > > ...and this weekend they're celebrating the launch of their second CD - > "Million Miles More!" - can't wait - I'm guessing it too is going to be - > wait for it - bloody good!! > > http://www.bluecoupeband.com/store/million_miles_more_cd_pre_order/ > > :-) > > PS: And don't miss Albert's monthly radio show, details here: > > http://www.hotrails.co.uk/blueskybag/albertbouchard/wfku.htm > From anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM Thu Apr 25 17:24:57 2013 From: anacondaconan at GMAIL.COM (Abra Cadabra) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:24:57 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind w/Nik @ Strange Daze 1998 DVDR Message-ID: I used to have an NTSC VHS of this that got wiped by accident. Wondering if anyone has a DVDR of it. The whole set with Nik at the end LOL. I truly dug the Ron/Rizz era alot more than some. My list of DVD to trade: Also i have all of the ICU Dingwalls on VHS and some DVDRs with it broken up with rehearsal bits. This VHS is a fantastically editited high quality recording. Would love a full DVD. Bedouin & V/A: Sonic Rock Solstice 2002 (Alan Davey & Danny Thompson of Hawkwind) Black Sabbath: The Black Sabbath Story Vol. 1 Black Sabbath: The Black Sabbath Story Vol. 2 Black Sabbath: Cross Purposes (live) Blue ?yster Cult: Some Other Enchanted Evening (live 78) [DVD that came with remaster CD of "Some Enchanted Evening" CD] Arthur Brown: Video Anthology I & II (2DVD-R) Candlemass: 20th Anniversary Party Candlemass: Ashes To Ashes: Live (CD live 2009 + DVD from Athens & Sweden Rock 2009) Cardiacs: Happiness Is A Maresnest (2DVD-R) [live 30/06/90] The Chameleons: Live At The Gallery Club The Chameleons: Live From London [Camden Place] Chrome & Helios Creed: Dual Forces Curved Air: The Lost Broadcasts The Damned: Final Damnation (VHS - NTSC) Faith No More: Video Croissant (VHS - PAL) Faith No More: Who Cares Alot / Live at Brixton Academy: You Fat Bastards [2DVD] (NTSC) The Fuzztones: LSD 25 [live compilation DVD that came with CD] (NTSC) Genesis: Live (1973-1974) Gong: Live On TV 1990 (VHS - NTSC) Gwar: Live From Antarctica (R1 - NTSC) Gwar: Phallus In Wonderland (R1 - NTSC) Gwar: Phallus In Wonderland / Tour De Scum (R1 - NTSC) Gwar: Blood Bath And Beyond! Gwar: Ultimate Video Gwarchive! (R1 - NTSC) Peter Hammill: Live In Berlin 1992 (2CD+1DVD) Hawklords: Barney Bubbles Memorial Concert Hawkwind: Solstice At Stonehenge 1984 Hawkwind: Night Of The Hawks Hawkwind: The Chronicle Of The Black sword Hawkwind: Chaos Hawkwind: Treworgey 1989 Hawkwind: Live USA Tour 1989-90 Hawkwind: Live In Nottingham 1990 (Live Legends) Hawkwind: Jaxx, Springfield, Virginia 07.04.95 (bootleg) DVD-R Hawkwind: Love In Space Hawkwind: Auckland, New Zealand 27.02-2000 (TV broadcast) DVD-R Hawkwind: Out Of The Shadows (2002 w/ Arthur Brown) Hawkwind: Winter Solstice 2005 Hawkwind: Knights Of Space Hawkwind: Space Melt (DVD-R) Hawkwind: TV Suicide (TV appearances and promo video collection 1972-2006) DVD-R Hawkwind: Do Not Panic, This Is Hawkwind (BBC 1 documentary) Here & Now: Been & Gone 1986 DVD-R Inner City Unit: Live Dingwalls 21/03/85 (bootleg 120 min. VHS - NTSC) (w/Nik Turner & Robert Calvert) Inner City Unit: Live Dingwalls 1985, concert highlights & rehearsal (DVD-R) Inner City Unit: Live, Liverpool Albert Dock, 1985 DVD-R w/Robert Calvert Inner City Unit: Live Compilation (DVD-R) Inner City Unit: Blood & Bone Video EP (Cherry Red label) (VHS - NTSC) Jethro Tull: Slipstream [live 1981] Judas Priest: Live Vengeance '82 Led Zeppelin: The Song Remains The Same The Legendary Pink Dots: A Dream Is A Dream Is A Dream The Legendary Pink Dots: Live At La Luna Marillion: The EMI Singles Video Collection [the videos, 1982-1995] Marillion: Recital Of The Script [live 1982-1983] Marillion: Live From Loreley [live 1987] Marillion: From Stoke Row To Ipanema [June '89 - July '90] [2DVD] Marillion: Brave [film] Marillion: A Piss-Up In A Brewery [Live at the Bass Museum, Burton-On-Trent, England 17/11/00] [NTSC] Marillion: Brave Live 2002 Marillion: Marbles On The Road [live, 2003] Marillion: Colours And Sound ['on the road' documentary, 2004] [2DVD, NTSC] Marillion: This Strange Convention [2DVD] Marillion: Somewhere in London (2011) [live 2007, 2DVD] Marillion: Live From Cadogan Hall [live 2009, 2DVD] Marillion: Live at German Space Day 2004 [Xmas 2011 fan club] [2012] Marillion: Sleighed Again [Xmas 2012 fan club] [DVD] Marillion: Holidays In Zelande [5DVD set] Marillion: Clocks Already Ticking [2DVD/3CD] Marillion: Fish: Kettle Of Fish [video collection] Marillion: Fish: Live In Krakow Marillion: Fish: Fool's Company 1 & 2 [live 2DVD, DVD#1: Marillion set + DVD#2: Fish solo set + interview] Marillion: Fish: Scattering Crows Live 2004 (DVD) [2005] Marillion: Fish: Return To Childhood [live 2DVD, 2006] Mot?rhead: Grind Ya Down [live in Canada 1988] Mot?rhead: Lemmy: 49% Motherf**ker, 51% Son Of A Bitch [2 disc edition] Orange Goblin: Live At The Mean Fiddler, London, UK, 16/12/06 [bonus DVD that came with "Healing Through Fire" CD] Ozric Tentacles: live @ Brixton Fridge 1991 (VHS - NTSC) Ozric Tentacles: At The Pongmasters Ball [DVD] Ozric Tentacles: Sunrise Festival 2008 [CD/DVD] Pallas: XXV (CD+DVD) [filmed at Loreley, The Rock of Entertainment] Pendragon: A Handy-Cam Progumentary [from "Pure" deluxe CD/DVD] Pentagram: When The Screams Come [R1 - NTSC] Pentagram: Bobby Liebling: Last Days Here [documentary] [R1 NTSC] Pink Floyd: Live Anthology Pink Floyd: Live At Pompeii: The Director's Cut Iggy Pop: Live In San Francisco 1981 (Target) Porcupine Tree: Steven Wilson: Get All You Deserve (live 2012) [DVD+Blu-Ray+2CD] Porcupine Tree: Octane Twisted [live] (2CD+DVD) [2012] The Rolling Stones/Jethro Tull/John Lennon: Rock 'n' Roll Circus The Sisters Of Mercy: Decades [2DVD-R] (bootleg of Albert Hall 1985 and Moscow 2006) Space Ritual: Satiricon (Nik Turner / Hawkwind group) Space Ritual: Green Ritual At The Big Green Gathering (w/Nik Turner, Ron Tree and Trev Thoms) Space Rock Invasion (V/A): Nektar, Brainticket & Huw Lloyd Langton (Hawkwind) [Cleo label from US triple bill tour 2011] [2DVD] Slayer: War At The Warfield (live) T.S.O.L.: The Early Years Live T.S.O.L.: Live From O.C. Nik Turner: Space Ritual 1994 (Hawkwind/Helios Creed/Psychic TV/Presssurehed) Nik Turner w/Farflung - live @ Cubby Bear, USA 1997 (VHS - NTSC) (audience bootleg) Van Der Graaf Generator: The Live TV Broadcasts [1970, 1972, 1975] Van Der Graaf Generator: Inside Van Der Graaf Generator (2DVD) Van Der Graaf Generator: Shepherds Bush 2005 bootleg [DVD] Van Der Graaf Generator: Live at the Paradiso April 2007 (Voiceprint) Van Der Graaf Generator: Live At The Metropolis Studios December 2010 (2CD/DVD) Venom: Live From London Vo?vod: D-V-O-D-1 Vo?vod: Tatsumaki: Live In Japan 2008 The White Stripes: Under Great White Northern Lights [DVD that came with live CD] Yes: Classic Rock Presents Yes Zodiac Mindwarp & The Love Reaction: Pandora's Grisly Handbag [live 1986 DVD that came with CD] V/A: Krautrock: The Rebirth Of Germany (BBC 4 documentary w/Amon D??l, Neu!, Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream etc.) V/A: The Jettisoundz Promo Years [w/Hawkwind, Psychic TV, Alien Sex Fiend, The Meteors, Inner City Unit, The Tygers Of Pan Tang, Cud, The Exploited + more, 50 different music videos!]