From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 1 10:18:47 2012 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:18:47 +0100 Subject: Off The Tracks/ Edinburgh Message-ID: Well, we arrived at teatime on Friday and didn't see one cloud until we left at Monday lunchtime. This had disadvantages of course - I've discovered that it's possible to get sunburn *through* shirts - ouch! So Hawkwind played in perfect weather. We got a few from Onward, You'd Better Believe It, Hassan/Space Is, Damnation Alley, and a fantastic extended version of Where Are They Now? The dancers were great as always, with various costumes along the lines of H.R.Puff'n'stuff on Acid. The encore had them in cybergirl outfits to go with Silver Machine. If I had my druthers though, the encore would have been Angela Android because the costumes were perfect for that one. The folks drinking next to us at the gig thought Hawkwind slowed it down too much for a festival and wanted more dancable tracks but we all certainly had a great time. So looking forward to them in Edinburgh tomorrow. The fan meet is from lunchtime in Dagda. That's a little towards town in the street *behind* the Queen's Hall. It has four real ales, and some Hawkwind tracks on the jukebox courtesy of a Mysterious Benefactor. The Boss even says he'll let folks bring their lunch in - Indian, Korean, Greasy Cafe, Italian, and Brazilian food are all available nearby. See you there... FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jun 2 20:31:58 2012 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (strobridge jill) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 01:31:58 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Edinburgh 2nd June Message-ID: That was awesome - I so enjoyed that show! One of the best segues I have heard them do in a long long time Assault and Battery / Golden Void (yes!) / Where Are They Now / Damnation Alley - I couldn't have hoped for better. It was a Hawkwind sound to sink into, let it flow all around and transport me somewhere wonderful - it was that good {and I came to the gig completely sober!}. The sound was excellent and the light show majestic. Well done to everyone! And as for those who decided this time around that maybe they wouldn't go to a show because it was going to be too boring and predictable - what are you thinking of?! Wake Up....Smell Coffee....Just Go! Ok some of the earlier tracks are maybe (with notable exceptions) not at the tempo or with the variations in texture you might wish of a Hawkwind track but such things take time to bed in and there are some really powerful songs developing - especially Seasons which is an extraordinary combination of sound and image. A lot of thought looks to have gone into its production and the results are quite haunting in a way. Prometheus is a good track (though my personal preference is Sentinal), Southern Cross is a very beautiful lyrical synth and keyboard piece with some hypnotic visuals. Sonic Attack a reminder of how the spoken voice alone, if intelligently combined, harmonised and crafted can have a mesmerising effect. The Hassan I Sahba segue shows how tracks evolve since the mid-rave bit now has a frequent change in beat and enough of an Eastern flavour with a lovely clear sequence of Space Is Their Palestine to keep it interesting so it really does work - it was a bit too long and repetitive in earlier productions. The opening sequence of Awakening into You'd Better Believe It is an excellent start and if the tempo drops a bit after that - just be patient! There is more to come - this IS Hawkwind after all. Enjoy Jill From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jun 3 07:08:14 2012 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:08:14 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind in Edinburgh 2nd June In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jill, nice review, wish I'd been able to telepathically hitch a ride to enjoy. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of strobridge jill Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:32 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Hawkwind in Edinburgh 2nd June That was awesome - I so enjoyed that show! One of the best segues I have heard them do in a long long time Assault and Battery / Golden Void (yes!) / Where Are They Now / Damnation Alley - I couldn't have hoped for better. It was a Hawkwind sound to sink into, let it flow all around and transport me somewhere wonderful - it was that good {and I came to the gig completely sober!}. The sound was excellent and the light show majestic. Well done to everyone! And as for those who decided this time around that maybe they wouldn't go to a show because it was going to be too boring and predictable - what are you thinking of?! Wake Up....Smell Coffee....Just Go! Ok some of the earlier tracks are maybe (with notable exceptions) not at the tempo or with the variations in texture you might wish of a Hawkwind track but such things take time to bed in and there are some really powerful songs developing - especially Seasons which is an extraordinary combination of sound and image. A lot of thought looks to have gone into its production and the results are quite haunting in a way. Prometheus is a good track (though my personal preference is Sentinal), Southern Cross is a very beautiful lyrical synth and keyboard piece with some hypnotic visuals. Sonic Attack a reminder of how the spoken voice alone, if intelligently combined, harmonised and crafted can have a mesmerising effect. The Hassan I Sahba segue shows how tracks evolve since the mid-rave bit now has a frequent change in beat and enough of an Eastern flavour with a lovely clear sequence of Space Is Their Palestine to keep it interesting so it really does work - it was a bit too long and repetitive in earlier productions. The opening sequence of Awakening into You'd Better Believe It is an excellent start and if the tempo drops a bit after that - just be patient! There is more to come - this IS Hawkwind after all. Enjoy Jill From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sun Jun 3 09:55:43 2012 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:55:43 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Edinburgh 2nd June In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Jill - a great review!! ? Mick? ________________________________ From: strobridge jill To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2012, 1:31 Subject: Hawkwind in Edinburgh 2nd June That was awesome - I so enjoyed that show!? One of the best segues I have heard them do in a long long time Assault and Battery / Golden Void (yes!) / Where Are They Now / Damnation Alley - I couldn't have hoped for better.? It was a Hawkwind sound to sink into, let it flow all around and transport me somewhere wonderful - it was that good {and I came to the gig completely sober!}.? The sound was excellent and the light show majestic.? Well done to everyone!? ? And as for those who decided this time around that maybe they wouldn't go to a show because it was going to be too boring and predictable - what are you thinking of?!? Wake Up....Smell Coffee....Just Go!? ? Ok some of the earlier tracks are maybe (with notable exceptions) not at the tempo or with the variations in texture you might wish of a Hawkwind track but such things take time to bed in and there are some really powerful songs developing - especially Seasons which is an extraordinary combination of sound and image.? A lot of thought looks to have gone into its production and the results are quite haunting in a way.? Prometheus is a good track (though my personal preference is Sentinal), Southern Cross is a very beautiful lyrical synth and keyboard piece with some hypnotic visuals.? Sonic Attack a reminder of how the spoken voice alone, if intelligently combined, harmonised and crafted can have a mesmerising effect.? ? The Hassan I Sahba segue shows how tracks evolve since the mid-rave bit now has a frequent change in beat and enough of an Eastern flavour with a lovely clear sequence of Space Is Their Palestine to keep it interesting so it really does work - it was a bit too long and repetitive in earlier productions.? The opening sequence of Awakening into You'd Better Believe It is an excellent start and if the tempo drops a bit after that - just be patient!? There is more to come - this IS Hawkwind after all. Enjoy Jill From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 5 09:48:27 2012 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:48:27 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw No comment needed! Steve From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 5 10:32:30 2012 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:32:30 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw > > No comment needed! I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Tue Jun 5 10:31:55 2012 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:31:55 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hmmm! On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw > > No comment needed! > > Steve > -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." ? Frank Zappa From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Tue Jun 5 12:50:41 2012 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:50:41 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCE187E.4020605@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Is that possible!!!?? On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: > On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw >> >> No comment needed! > > I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. > > FoFP > -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." ? Frank Zappa From steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 5 17:43:07 2012 From: steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:43:07 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: absolutely horrible - why does he bother ??? > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:48:27 +0100 > From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM > Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw > > No comment needed! > > Steve From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 5 17:57:27 2012 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:57:27 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Absolutely hilarious. Shat is known for his self deprecating humor. Not supposed to be taken seriously. Sent from my iPad 2 On Jun 5, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > absolutely horrible - why does he bother ??? > > >> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:48:27 +0100 >> From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM >> Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw >> >> No comment needed! >> >> Steve > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 5 19:55:00 2012 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:55:00 +0800 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <0E4B67CA-EDDB-4A7E-8D87-A0D83C42CA99@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have to admit to loving the album-- it is tongue in cheek of course! On 6 June 2012 05:57, Mike Montfort wrote: > Absolutely hilarious. Shat is known for his self deprecating humor. Not > supposed to be taken seriously. > > Sent from my iPad 2 > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Stephen Lindsey > wrote: > > > absolutely horrible - why does he bother ??? > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:48:27 +0100 > >> From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM > >> Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw > >> > >> No comment needed! > >> > >> Steve > > > From martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM Tue Jun 5 22:45:26 2012 From: martyn_white_2003 at YAHOO.COM (martyn white) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:45:26 -0700 Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Spam detection software, running on the system "www.ispnetinc.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Just wow! I have heard Bill covers before and they are funny like his version of Rocket Man. I didn't know he covered Silver Machine and I have posted that straight to my FB page :) Thanks! 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So you must have done something right... Alex. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 6 07:26:49 2012 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:26:49 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCE38E1.2050207@darkstar.uk.net> Message-ID: On 05/06/2012 17:50, Horse wrote: > On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: >> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw >>> >>> No comment needed! >> >> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. > Is that possible!!!?? Denny Crane... -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Wed Jun 6 07:38:24 2012 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 06:38:24 -0500 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF3E79.6000204@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: It's a Cleopatra release... ;-) On 6/6/2012 6:26 AM, Mike Holmes wrote: > On 05/06/2012 17:50, Horse wrote: > >> On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: >>> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw >>>> >>>> No comment needed! >>> >>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. > > > Is that possible!!!?? > > Denny Crane... > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jun 6 08:22:58 2012 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:22:58 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF3E79.6000204@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: we checked out the clips a few months ago, too bad so many fine musicians perverted the Spacerock, I hope they had fun, anyway. The clips were good for half a laugh, my condolences on the purchase of the disc, maybe it will be a collector's item someday. Shatner's getting old. I doubt he needs the money. He does over act, just a bit. Kirk wasn't believable as a captain, no diplomacy, and too young. Hawk on, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Holmes Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 7:27 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Silver Machine - William Shatner On 05/06/2012 17:50, Horse wrote: > On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: >> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw >>> >>> No comment needed! >> >> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. > Is that possible!!!?? Denny Crane... -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Wed Jun 6 08:34:19 2012 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:34:19 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF4130.30205@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ah. That explains it. Covers all the way down! All quite funny though. :) On 06/06/2012 12:38, Rich W wrote: > It's a Cleopatra release... ;-) > > On 6/6/2012 6:26 AM, Mike Holmes wrote: >> On 05/06/2012 17:50, Horse wrote: >> >>> On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: >>>> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw >>>>> >>>>> No comment needed! >>>> >>>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >> >> > Is that possible!!!?? >> >> Denny Crane... >> > . > -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." ? Frank Zappa From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 08:51:51 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 08:51:51 -0400 Subject: Am I spem In-Reply-To: <201206060917.41115.asg@mvdbase.com> Message-ID: You were spem at one time but now you are fully human. ;-) On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > On Wednesday 06 June 2012, martyn white wrote: > > Sorry, ispcnet keeps telling me that I am spem so yeah I guess > > this is a test. > > Two of your messages did come in marked as "possible spam". This one > didn't, > though. So you must have done something right... > > > > Alex. > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics > Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database] > http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 09:01:28 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:01:28 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF4E4B.5050709@darkstar.uk.net> Message-ID: There is and always will be only only one Bill Shatner. If you never saw Boston Legal you might not get him. Like a fine well-kept cigar he gets better with age. It's cool that he murders Silver Machine though, not that I would ever actually listen to it? more than once anyway. Al On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Horse wrote: > Ah. That explains it. Covers all the way down! > All quite funny though. :) > > > On 06/06/2012 12:38, Rich W wrote: > >> It's a Cleopatra release... ;-) >> >> On 6/6/2012 6:26 AM, Mike Holmes wrote: >> >>> On 05/06/2012 17:50, Horse wrote: >>> >>> On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=X8sKhkczNtw >>>>>> >>>>>> No comment needed! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >>>>> >>>> >>> > Is that possible!!!?? >>> >>> Denny Crane... >>> >>> . >> >> > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > ? Frank Zappa > From lownds at GMX.DE Wed Jun 6 08:57:46 2012 From: lownds at GMX.DE (Patrick Charles) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:57:46 +0200 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCE187E.4020605@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: the man has a healthy, self deprecating sense of humour (there's actually quite a touching piece on his album Has Been about a father trying to reconnect with his estranged son) Pat Am 05.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Mike Holmes: > On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw >> >> No comment needed! > > I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. > > FoFP > From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 09:11:07 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:11:07 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF53CA.7030300@gmx.de> Message-ID: Ah "S@#t My Father Says" another great one. On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Patrick Charles wrote: > the man has a healthy, self deprecating sense of humour > > (there's actually quite a touching piece on his album Has Been about a > father trying to reconnect with his estranged son) > > > Pat > > > > > Am 05.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Mike Holmes: > > On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=X8sKhkczNtw >>> >>> No comment needed! >>> >> >> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >> >> FoFP >> >> From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jun 6 09:15:45 2012 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:15:45 -0400 Subject: Am I spem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't like Spam -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Albert Bouchard Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Am I spem You were spem at one time but now you are fully human. ;-) On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > On Wednesday 06 June 2012, martyn white wrote: > > Sorry, ispcnet keeps telling me that I am spem so yeah I guess this > > is a test. > > Two of your messages did come in marked as "possible spam". This one > didn't, though. So you must have done something right... > > > > Alex. > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/asglyrics > Music Videos : http://mvdbase.com [database] > http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Wed Jun 6 09:10:28 2012 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:10:28 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The U.S. should definitely consider him a National Institution. Or perhaps put him in one if he does any more covers!! :) On 06/06/2012 14:01, Albert Bouchard wrote: > There is and always will be only only one Bill Shatner. If you never saw > Boston Legal you might not get him. Like a fine well-kept cigar he gets > better with age. It's cool that he murders Silver Machine though, not that > I would ever actually listen to it? more than once anyway. > Al > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Horse wrote: > >> Ah. That explains it. Covers all the way down! >> All quite funny though. :) >> >> >> On 06/06/2012 12:38, Rich W wrote: >> >>> It's a Cleopatra release... ;-) >>> >>> On 6/6/2012 6:26 AM, Mike Holmes wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/06/2012 17:50, Horse wrote: >>>> >>>> On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: >>>>>> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=X8sKhkczNtw >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No comment needed! >>>>>>> >>>>>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >>>>>> >>>>> Is that possible!!!?? >>>> Denny Crane... >>>> >>>> . >>> >> -- >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production >> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> ? Frank Zappa >> -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." ? Frank Zappa From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 09:21:58 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:21:58 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I should have googled first it's actually: *$h*! My Dad Says* On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Albert Bouchard wrote: > Ah "S@#t My Father Says" another great one. > > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Patrick Charles wrote: > >> the man has a healthy, self deprecating sense of humour >> >> (there's actually quite a touching piece on his album Has Been about a >> father trying to reconnect with his estranged son) >> >> >> Pat >> >> >> >> >> Am 05.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Mike Holmes: >> >> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=X8sKhkczNtw >>>> >>>> No comment needed! >>>> >>> >>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >>> >>> FoFP >>> >>> > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jun 6 09:25:10 2012 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:25:10 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Shatner was pretty good in a dramatic role. Roger Corman's The Intruder - where he plays an instigator of racial divisions in a small Southern town. On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:21:58 -0400, Albert Bouchard wrote: > I should have googled first it's actually: > *$h*! My Dad Says* > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Albert Bouchard wrote: > >> Ah "S@#t My Father Says" another great one. >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Patrick Charles wrote: >> >>> the man has a healthy, self deprecating sense of humour >>> >>> (there's actually quite a touching piece on his album Has Been about a >>> father trying to reconnect with his estranged son) >>> >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 05.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Mike Holmes: >>> >>> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=X8sKhkczNtw >>>>> >>>>> No comment needed! >>>>> >>>> >>>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >>>> >>>> FoFP >>>> >>>> >> From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jun 6 09:54:51 2012 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:54:51 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF56C4.8020306@darkstar.uk.net> Message-ID: I love it! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Horse Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:10 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Silver Machine - William Shatner The U.S. should definitely consider him a National Institution. Or perhaps put him in one if he does any more covers!! :) On 06/06/2012 14:01, Albert Bouchard wrote: > There is and always will be only only one Bill Shatner. If you never > saw Boston Legal you might not get him. Like a fine well-kept cigar he > gets better with age. It's cool that he murders Silver Machine though, > not that I would ever actually listen to it. more than once anyway. > Al > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Horse wrote: > >> Ah. That explains it. Covers all the way down! >> All quite funny though. :) >> >> >> On 06/06/2012 12:38, Rich W wrote: >> >>> It's a Cleopatra release... ;-) >>> >>> On 6/6/2012 6:26 AM, Mike Holmes wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/06/2012 17:50, Horse wrote: >>>> >>>> On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: >>>>>> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=X8sKhkczNtw>>>>>> com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No comment needed! >>>>>>> >>>>>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >>>>>> >>>>> Is that possible!!!?? >>>> Denny Crane... >>>> >>>> . >>> >> -- >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring >> production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> - Frank Zappa >> -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Wed Jun 6 10:12:17 2012 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:12:17 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I Love that Movie! Especially since William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson and Charles Beaumont the writer of the novel and screen play all make cameos in it. On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:25:10 -0400, Jason Scruton wrote: > Shatner was pretty good in a dramatic role. Roger Corman's The Intruder - > where he plays an instigator of racial divisions in a small Southern > town. > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:21:58 -0400, Albert Bouchard > wrote: >> I should have googled first it's actually: >> *$h*! My Dad Says* >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Albert Bouchard > wrote: >> >>> Ah "S@#t My Father Says" another great one. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Patrick Charles wrote: >>> >>>> the man has a healthy, self deprecating sense of humour >>>> >>>> (there's actually quite a touching piece on his album Has Been about a >>>> father trying to reconnect with his estranged son) >>>> >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 05.06.2012 16:32, schrieb Mike Holmes: >>>> >>>> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=X8sKhkczNtw >>>>>> >>>>>> No comment needed! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >>>>> >>>>> FoFP >>>>> >>>>> >>> > -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Wed Jun 6 10:39:46 2012 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:39:46 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: " The U.S. should definitely consider him a National Institution. Or perhaps put him in one if he does any more covers!! " Unfortunately he's Canadian so none of this (especially the prohibition on covers) will never happen ;) On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:54:51 -0400, mary ann sullivan wrote: > I love it! > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Horse > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:10 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Silver Machine - William Shatner > > The U.S. should definitely consider him a National Institution. > Or perhaps put him in one if he does any more covers!! :) > > On 06/06/2012 14:01, Albert Bouchard wrote: >> There is and always will be only only one Bill Shatner. If you never >> saw Boston Legal you might not get him. Like a fine well-kept cigar he >> gets better with age. It's cool that he murders Silver Machine though, >> not that I would ever actually listen to it. more than once anyway. >> Al >> >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Horse wrote: >> >>> Ah. That explains it. Covers all the way down! >>> All quite funny though. :) >>> >>> >>> On 06/06/2012 12:38, Rich W wrote: >>> >>>> It's a Cleopatra release... ;-) >>>> >>>> On 6/6/2012 6:26 AM, Mike Holmes wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 05/06/2012 17:50, Horse wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 05/06/2012 15:32, Mike Holmes wrote: >>>>>>> On 05/06/2012 14:48, Steve Freight wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=X8sKhkczNtw>>>>>>> com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No comment needed! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I bought the damn CD. It's *all* that bad. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Is that possible!!!?? >>>>> Denny Crane... >>>>> >>>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring >>> production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >>> - Frank Zappa >>> > -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 6 11:46:40 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:46:40 -0500 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 06 Jun 2012, at 08:01 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > There is and always will be only only one Bill Shatner. If you never saw > Boston Legal you might not get him. Like a fine well-kept cigar he gets > better with age. It's cool that he murders Silver Machine though, not that > I would ever actually listen to it? more than once anyway. Perhaps mercifully, he didn't attempt ETI or Astronomy or something ;) Although unfortunately, I _can_ create a pretty good mental "aural image" of Shatner attempting "Dominance & Submission", and even the imagined version is pretty scarring .... ;) Cheers, Carl PS - The cover of "Iron Man" -- with the participation of Zakk Wylde, heavens help us -- is fairly scarring as it is .... -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 6 11:47:40 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:47:40 -0500 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <55044377C8F54324AB3CE5014ABBDC9F@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 06 Jun 2012, at 07:22 , mary ann sullivan wrote: > Kirk wasn't believable as a captain, no diplomacy, and too > young. That may actually be all too realistic! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From tim at KALYR.COM Wed Jun 6 11:54:25 2012 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:54:25 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <38D7B2D6-A351-45DF-A243-0E965E449754@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 06/06/2012 16:46, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Although unfortunately, I_can_ create a pretty good mental "aural image" of Shatner attempting "Dominance& Submission", and even the imagined version is pretty scarring ....;) I'd love to hear that :) Magma of Illusion is the one he should really do. -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From lownds at GMX.DE Wed Jun 6 11:59:41 2012 From: lownds at GMX.DE (Patrick Charles) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:59:41 +0200 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF7D31.7080401@kalyr.com> Message-ID: or Monsters... good sci fi narrative Am 06.06.2012 17:54, schrieb Tim Hall: > On 06/06/2012 16:46, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> Although unfortunately, I_can_ create a pretty good mental "aural >> image" of Shatner attempting "Dominance& Submission", and even the >> imagined version is pretty scarring ....;) > > I'd love to hear that :) > > Magma of Illusion is the one he should really do. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 6 12:00:11 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:00:11 -0500 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <0E4B67CA-EDDB-4A7E-8D87-A0D83C42CA99@gmail.com> Message-ID: Since Shatner has been infamous for his fearsomely, campily, over-the-top The Transformed Man renditions since 1968, and his association with sci-fi/space stuff is indelible, it makes absolute sense for him to come out with a album like Seeking Major Tom. I mean, it may be giving people what-they-say-they-don't-want-but-actually-do ;) but, well, it's show biz, after all. :) Cheers, Carl On 05 Jun 2012, at 16:57 , Mike Montfort wrote: > Absolutely hilarious. Shat is known for his self deprecating humor. Not supposed to be taken seriously. > > Sent from my iPad 2 > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > >> absolutely horrible - why does he bother ??? >> >> >>> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:48:27 +0100 >>> From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM >>> Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8sKhkczNtw >>> >>> No comment needed! >>> >>> Steve >> > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 6 12:03:54 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:03:54 -0500 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF7D31.7080401@kalyr.com> Message-ID: On 06 Jun 2012, at 10:54 , Tim Hall wrote: > Magma of Illusion is the one he should really do. Yeah, he would absolutely kill on lines like "Granddaughter, it's a foreign mirror/Taken from the jungle by crime!". :) It would, in any case, be less traumatizing than "D&S". Cheers, Carl PS - I once briefly entertained the idea of a parody of "Dominance & Submission" as "Dungeons & Dragons" :) but could not actually come up with lyrics that were simultaneously on-topic parody and also as clever as the originals. :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Wed Jun 6 12:06:10 2012 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:06:10 -0400 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF7E6D.7090809@gmx.de> Message-ID: I feel "Veteran of the Psychic Wars" may be tailor made for Shatner. Imagine, not just the finese, but the experience he can bring to that! On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:59:41 -0400, Patrick Charles wrote: > or Monsters... good sci fi narrative > > > > > Am 06.06.2012 17:54, schrieb Tim Hall: >> On 06/06/2012 16:46, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >>> Although unfortunately, I_can_ create a pretty good mental "aural >>> image" of Shatner attempting "Dominance& Submission", and even the >>> imagined version is pretty scarring ....;) >> >> I'd love to hear that :) >> >> Magma of Illusion is the one he should really do. > -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From tim at KALYR.COM Wed Jun 6 12:12:39 2012 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:12:39 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 06/06/2012 17:03, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> Magma of Illusion is the one he should really do. > Yeah, he would absolutely kill on lines like "Granddaughter, it's a foreign mirror/Taken from the jungle by crime!".:) It would, Indeed. That was exactly what I was thinking! -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 6 12:14:53 2012 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 17:14:53 +0100 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <50173CA1-632C-4FF1-9A9D-7F5FF7177C01@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 06/06/2012 16:47, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 06 Jun 2012, at 07:22 , mary ann sullivan wrote: >> Kirk wasn't believable as a captain, no diplomacy, and too >> young. > > That may actually be all too realistic! ;) Don't like your tentacles Don't like your race Blow up your planet I'm Rambo In Space -- Rambo In Space (Hawkwind) -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 6 12:21:03 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:21:03 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: <4FB2280B.9070603@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 15 May 2012, at 04:55 , Mike Holmes wrote: >> The Scorpions just released a "new" CD that was all covers, many of which were remakes of their own songs, mostly the 80s stuff that all >> sounded like crap because of horrible 80s production. Miserable gated drums again. So I can understand why a band would do such a thing, >> esp. a band that is now effectively retired and won't have the chance to 'repair' that material again. HW could do that with Black Sword >> (which I think sounds fucking terrible in 2012) - same with Xenon Codex. > > Yes, I'd love to hear "The War I survived", "Lost Chronicles" and "Sword of The East" with Richard doing non-eighties drums. As I've mentioned before, transferring the "Space is Their Palestine" insert from Hassan to Sword of The East would go very well. Dunno about redoing Black Sword, though I agree the robot drums make it fairly hard to listen to these days. Elric The Enchanter is possibly the one I'd choose to try a do-over. There seems to have been being a trend for re-doing classic albums, often from the 80s, in their entirety. Girlschool, for example, just recently re-did "Hit & Run" .... Pretty credibly, actually; the first track, "C'mon Let's Go" starts off with the sounds of snoring rather than the revving motorcycle engine of the original. ;) That little trick had me onboard for the rest of the show. :) '80s production does seem to get singled out for special venom -- of course, it's hard to imagine a lot of '80s pop without those gated drums. I mean, would we remix "In the Air Tonight" to _not_ include them? And would it make sense to re-do stuff by Bon Jovi or Def Leppard without the '80s vibe? :) I mean, that stuff On the other hand, it's probably true that a heavy production hand back them did not do wonders for many rock bands -- Hawkwind among them (and, among other things, '80s production approaches did the Sabbath recordings of that era little good, either). I don't know that one would need to re-record COTBS or XC (well, OK, perhaps Danny Thompson's drumming is not gonna win any awards ... but we don-t wanna get accused of pulling a "Sharon" and stripping the original performances/performers off the record ... do we?) but a very serious re-mix might be in order. Depends, I guess, on whether or how much was recorded "wet". Steve Wilson's recent re-mix of Tull's Aqualung stays very true to the original design of the mix -- just basically getting it all a bit clearer and detailed -- but that would probably not the the approach I'd take with CoTBS or XC .... :) Listening again ... mmm, yeah, re-mixing the drums to make them a bit more organic (they could hardly be _less_ organic!) would do a lot to help COTBS even if nothing else was done. But, mmm, mere remastering, despite what can be done by a skilled mastering engineer, would probably be insufficient! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From lownds at GMX.DE Wed Jun 6 12:27:08 2012 From: lownds at GMX.DE (Patrick Charles) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:27:08 +0200 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: the whole album would lend itself wonderfully to a dramatic reading w/ musical accompaniment now that's a brain maggot that isn't going to go away anytime soon Rutger Hauer doing the Siege & Investiture... Udo Kier doing I Am The One You Warned Me Of... Am 06.06.2012 18:03, schrieb Carl Edlund Anderson: > On 06 Jun 2012, at 10:54 , Tim Hall wrote: >> Magma of Illusion is the one he should really do. > Yeah, he would absolutely kill on lines like "Granddaughter, it's a foreign mirror/Taken from the jungle by crime!". :) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jun 6 12:47:24 2012 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:47:24 -0400 Subject: Ray Bradbury RIP Message-ID: Got the word a few minutes ago, Mr. Bradbury passed away at age 91. He could sure tell a story, be it short, or long. I hopes he has peace in his new space, Mary From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 6 12:52:40 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:52:40 -0500 Subject: Silver Machine - William Shatner In-Reply-To: <4FCF84DC.9020009@gmx.de> Message-ID: On 06 Jun 2012, at 11:27 , Patrick Charles wrote: > Rutger Hauer doing the Siege & Investiture... Woah! :) For, like, 15 years I've been musing over a song inspired by Hauer's "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe ... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion; I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannh?user Gate" from the "Tears in Rain" solioquy at the end of Blade Runner. I think Jon Jarrett and I were kicking the idea around at some point; I more or less remember the riffs around which something was going to be built. I was going to steal some ideas from Lemmy's "The Watcher" and "Make 'Em Blind" (e.g. "We come in blazing rockets/We bring you greed and slavery/No alien utopia/Will long survive our bravery"). Anyway, I always wanted to know how those attack ships ended up on fire off the shoulder of Orion, and it seemed like whatever that story was would be worth a song.. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 6 17:58:28 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 16:58:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Writing creeds on recent Atomhenge bonus tracks? Message-ID: Does anyone know the proper writing credits for some of the more mysterious tracks on some of the recent Atomhenge re-releases? Neither iTunes or Amazon (on which I now have to largely rely, as getting deliveries of physical CDs is really only possible when someone physically comes to visit carrying them!) is much help with regards to writing credits. Obviously some of the bonus tracks are just alternate versions of albums tracks, etc., but some of them are a bit tougher to identify. Like, "Radio Telepathy" is clearly at least Brock, since some of it eventually resurfaces as "Right to Decide", but ....? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 7 05:08:54 2012 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:08:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 06/06/2012 17:21, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 15 May 2012, at 04:55 , Mike Holmes wrote: >> Yes, I'd love to hear "The War I survived", "Lost Chronicles" and "Sword of The East" with Richard doing non-eighties drums. As I've mentioned before, transferring the "Space is Their Palestine" insert from Hassan to Sword of The East would go very well. Dunno about redoing Black Sword, though I agree the robot drums make it fairly hard to listen to these days. Elric The Enchanter is possibly the one I'd choose to try a do-over. > > > There seems to have been being a trend for re-doing classic albums, often from the 80s, in their entirety. Girlschool, for example, just recently re-did "Hit& Run" .... Pretty credibly, actually; the first track, "C'mon Let's Go" starts off with the sounds of snoring rather than the revving motorcycle engine of the original. ;) That little trick had me onboard for the rest of the show. :) > > '80s production does seem to get singled out for special venom -- of course, it's hard to imagine a lot of '80s pop without those gated drums. I mean, would we remix "In the Air Tonight" to _not_ include them? And would it make sense to re-do stuff by Bon Jovi or Def Leppard without the '80s vibe? :) I mean, that stuff > > On the other hand, it's probably true that a heavy production hand back them did not do wonders for many rock bands -- Hawkwind among them (and, among other things, '80s production approaches did the Sabbath recordings of that era little good, either). I don't know that one would need to re-record COTBS or XC (well, OK, perhaps Danny Thompson's drumming is not gonna win any awards ... but we don-t wanna get accused of pulling a "Sharon" and stripping the original performances/performers off the record ... do we?) but a very serious re-mix might be in order. Depends, I guess, on whether or how much was recorded "wet". Steve Wilson's recent re-mix of Tull's Aqualung stays very true to the original design of the mix -- just basically getting it all a bit clearer and detailed -- but that would probably not the the approach I'd take with CoTBS or XC .... :) > > Listening again ... mmm, yeah, re-mixing the drums to make them a bit more organic (they could hardly be _less_ organic!) would do a lot to help COTBS even if nothing else was done. But, mmm, mere remastering, despite what can be done by a skilled mastering engineer, would probably be insufficient! In fact if Dave et al were up for it, I think there's a perfect project for a mass Hawkwind Fan Vote in here. Open the whole of the 80's up for a poll of tracks to see which ones the fans would love to see done over. It'd be fairly easy to run via the interweb (hell, we did this sort of thing ourselves 20 years ago when software was a lot less sophisticated - so I suspect we could organise it fairly straightforwardly). It'd put the band in touch with more fans; it'd almost certainly get some press publicity; and I expect those who voted would be more likely to come to live shows or download tracks/buy CDs, to hear the results. Of course there'd be the usual nonsense about rights to tracks, but Nik wasn't around very much during the 80's so that ought to be feasible to get around. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jun 7 10:31:22 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:31:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: <4FD06FA6.9080702@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 07 Jun 2012, at 04:08 , Mike Holmes wrote: > Open the whole of the 80's up for a poll of tracks to see which ones the fans would love to see done over. Though I have to admit would be less interested in hearing the current band re-record stuff than in hearing completely new mixes/productions of the original recordings. I mean, the current band already does lots of "covers" from other lineups -- live and on record -- so I'm not so into the idea of getting them to do more. I do think that those other lineups had some good songs that, for various reasons, are not being done justice by the production they received. Obviously this is all subjective, and one could well fall prey to the "George Lucas" phenomenon of "fixing" things that were actually fine as they were, with the end result of making them worse ... though, on the other hand, Star Wars would be fine if Han still shot first, whereas COTBS would be (at least subjectively) very arguably improved by remixing the drums (and, of course, other things -- but especially the drums!). Of course this would make it harder for the other people who want to cover songs from that era. ;) I'm pretty sure I could program and mix drums on my Mac that would stand a good chance of being less awful than the COTBS drum sound. :) But any half-decent engineer could remix COTBS to sound better than it does (by today's standards) as well. _There's_ an idea! Convince Dave to cough up the basic multi-tracks and let fans have a remix competition. :) Other bands have actually sometimes done things like that; NIN comes to mind, and people on Peter Gabriel's Real World label .... Not that I expect Dave would actually go for something like that ;) but it would be pretty cool in the alternate reality in which he did. :) Cheers, Carl PS - That said, I've never been a particular fan of the production on the earlier BOC albums either. It always seemed a bit thin and lo-fi to me, though I have kinda gathered there was a trend for that at the time. ST gets a bit better, but though I'm sure many accused AoF of seeming to slick and produced, it did finally achieve a fuller sound for the band. FoUO also sounds "right" for the band and music to me. I still think "Imaginos" is largely amazing, although the "tape wear" or transfer through continual remixing and messing around as the project passed from Al to Sony/Sandy (it was Sony back then, no?) keeps it from sounding as awesome as it should. You can hear the intentions on the CD, though, and on the bootleg copies of Al's version. If there were good copies of the original recordings, one could definitely turn that into the all-around blinder that it should be. -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 7 12:45:30 2012 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:45:30 +0100 Subject: Shell drilling in the Arctic? Message-ID: Epic PR Fail: http://occupyseattle.org/blog/2012-06-07/shells-epic-private-party-fail -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jun 7 13:19:31 2012 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:19:31 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: <4FD06FA6.9080702@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP iterated... > Open the whole of the 80's up for a poll of tracks to see > which ones the fans would love to see done over. It'd be > fairly easy to run via the interweb (hell, we did this sort > of thing ourselves 20 years ago when software was a lot less > sophisticated - so I suspect we could organise it fairly > straightforwardly). I agree with Carl on this...new albums should primarily be for the debut of truly new material. Do the voting thing for the next tour. You know, like Dave Law (?) did five yrs. ago or so, when we voted for those four tracks to hear on the next tour. And then they went and played all four instead of just one! Which was awesome, esp. since I was there to see a couple of those gigs. Let's do that again! If they redo a bunch of tracks, might as well do it like the Scorpions' Comeblack thingy, do the WHOLE album of old tracks/covers, so that fans can decide if they really want that at all, or just want new mat'l. Constantly 'patching' albums short on new songs with remakes might eventually cause lots of borderline fans to tune out. Although it's been going on so long now, hard to imagine that wouldn't have already reached equilibrium at this point. Anyway, what about a vote to determine what *other* artists' songs that Hawkwind could cover? You know, the band has done *very* few covers at all over the many decades. Let's see, Cymballine, Interstellar OD, Gimme Shelter, and that's just about it really. OK, playing Arthur's tunes doesn't really count, nor Swindells' track (SDITN) nor LH & New Jerusalem. I mean, "true" covers from outside the band. Oh, wait, they used to play Velvet Underground (I'm Waiting for the Man) in the late 70s, didn't they? I think it was a song that either Magic Muscle or High Tide used to play in their set (can't remember which), and then either Simon or Ade brought that along, right? Regardless, it's the "thing" these days to do ridiculous numbers of tribute albums (*cough* Brian Pererra *cough*) to pad one's label's profile, so why not HW/Voiceprint get in on the action? So here's my vote, and it has a Hawkwind connection natch. (I think I've made this argument before years ago): Pretty Things - Old Man Going and get Dick Taylor to guest on it. I think HW could do great things with this track. (Has anybody heard the version on "Sorrow's Children," the tribute to SF Sorrow that has already been done? Worth a listen?) Anybody else have an idea? Maybe a BOC song? (Not Black Blade, too bloody obvious.) Keith ObCD/online listening: Fungal Abyss - Bardo Abgrund Temple (@ Bandcamp) NP: Lacuna Coil - Dark Adrenaline From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jun 7 14:06:23 2012 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:06:23 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Onward Message-ID: Let's have another fan T shirt design....still got mine but, its more of a bra than a t shirt, fat fuck that i've turned into, and a baldy fat fuck to boot:( bill s In a message dated 6/7/2012 1:19:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, khenders64 at YAHOO.COM writes: FoFP iterated... > Open the whole of the 80's up for a poll of tracks to see > which ones the fans would love to see done over. It'd be > fairly easy to run via the interweb (hell, we did this sort > of thing ourselves 20 years ago when software was a lot less > sophisticated - so I suspect we could organise it fairly > straightforwardly). I agree with Carl on this...new albums should primarily be for the debut of truly new material. Do the voting thing for the next tour. You know, like Dave Law (?) did five yrs. ago or so, when we voted for those four tracks to hear on the next tour. And then they went and played all four instead of just one! Which was awesome, esp. since I was there to see a couple of those gigs. Let's do that again! If they redo a bunch of tracks, might as well do it like the Scorpions' Comeblack thingy, do the WHOLE album of old tracks/covers, so that fans can decide if they really want that at all, or just want new mat'l. Constantly 'patching' albums short on new songs with remakes might eventually cause lots of borderline fans to tune out. Although it's been going on so long now, hard to imagine that wouldn't have already reached equilibrium at this point. Anyway, what about a vote to determine what *other* artists' songs that Hawkwind could cover? You know, the band has done *very* few covers at all over the many decades. Let's see, Cymballine, Interstellar OD, Gimme Shelter, and that's just about it really. OK, playing Arthur's tunes doesn't really count, nor Swindells' track (SDITN) nor LH & New Jerusalem. I mean, "true" covers from outside the band. Oh, wait, they used to play Velvet Underground (I'm Waiting for the Man) in the late 70s, didn't they? I think it was a song that either Magic Muscle or High Tide used to play in their set (can't remember which), and then either Simon or Ade brought that along, right? Regardless, it's the "thing" these days to do ridiculous numbers of tribute albums (*cough* Brian Pererra *cough*) to pad one's label's profile, so why not HW/Voiceprint get in on the action? So here's my vote, and it has a Hawkwind connection natch. (I think I've made this argument before years ago): Pretty Things - Old Man Going and get Dick Taylor to guest on it. I think HW could do great things with this track. (Has anybody heard the version on "Sorrow's Children," the tribute to SF Sorrow that has already been done? Worth a listen?) Anybody else have an idea? Maybe a BOC song? (Not Black Blade, too bloody obvious.) Keith ObCD/online listening: Fungal Abyss - Bardo Abgrund Temple (@ Bandcamp) NP: Lacuna Coil - Dark Adrenaline From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jun 7 15:23:29 2012 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:23:29 -0400 Subject: Shell drilling in the Arctic? Message-ID: aaaahahahhahhhhhhaahhhahahahhah bill s In a message dated 6/7/2012 12:45:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK writes: http://occupyseattle.org/blog/2012-06-07/shells-epic-private-party-fail From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Tue Jun 12 04:54:16 2012 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:54:16 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock Radio Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 12, 2012: NEW AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #285). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #285) Mechanik - "You Yourself are the Teacher and the Guru" (from You Yourself Are The Teacher And The Guru EP) Sendelica - "Magical Ninin" (from The Satori in Elegance of the Majectic Stonegazer) The Lucid Dream - "Hits Me Like I'm Stoned" (from Hits Me Like I'm Stoned/Try A Little Sunshine 7") Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Cranium Pie & the Research Station - "Queen St. Gang" (from A Visit to Newport Hospital/Queen St. Gang 7") nick nicely - "Hilly Fields (1892)" (from Hilly Fields 7") Eidetic Seeing - "No Pilot" (from Drink the Sun) Census of Hallucinations - "Hologram" (from Dragonian Days) Palace Of Swords - "Deer Park" (from II) Palace Of Swords - "The White Goddess (Part 1)" (from Palace Of Swords) Blindshore - "Too Far" (from Hollow) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Jay Tausig - "You Are Of This Earth" (from Taurus Roots Of The Earth) Manikin Timeshark - "Electric Octopus" (from Mayhem in the Meadow) QUARKSPACE SET (For Paul Williams in memory of SATCHEL) Quarkspace - "Squirrel Inside A Scoop Of Transparent Grape Ice Cream" (from Spacefolds 11) Quarkspace & Matt Howarth - "Entering Node 817" (from Note in Peril) Quarkspace - "The Circle" (from The Hidden Moon) Can - "Halleluhway" (from Tago Mago) http://Aural-Innovations.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Jun 12 08:42:14 2012 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:42:14 -0400 Subject: Can - The Lost Tapes Message-ID: I just read this piece on the Grauniad about an upcoming Can box set of "lost material:" http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2012/jun/11/can-lost-tapes Anyone know anything about it? Cheers, Paul. From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 22 13:10:10 2012 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:10:10 +0100 Subject: Hawkfan Message-ID: Nice surprise today - a new Hawkfan dropped in my letterbox. Good timing as well as had a day off. Splendid as usual Brian. Thanks very much Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jun 24 07:56:05 2012 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 07:56:05 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 24, 2012: NEW AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #286). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #286) Space Mirrors ? ?Through The Dream Lands? (from forthcoming In Darkness They Whisper) Blindshore ? ?Drive? (from Hollow) 7% Solution ? ?Your Kingdom, Your World? (from All About Satellites and Spaceships) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) A Five And Dime Ship ? ?Middle Pillar? (from A Five And Dime Ship) Dirac C ? ?Briar Rose? (from Dirac C) Ax Genrich ? ?Blow Up? (from A Trip To Paradise) Guru Guru ? ?Spaceship? (from Hinton) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Ax Genrich ? ?Fundador? (from Wave Cut) Guru Guru ? ?Baby Cake Walk? (from K?nguru) Can ? ?Millionenspiel? (from The Lost Tapes) Can ? ?Your Friendly Neighborhood Whore? (from The Lost Tapes) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Can ? ?Abra Cada Braxas? (from The Lost Tapes) Dave Fuglewicz ? ?The Wizard?s Porch (2011)? (from The Wizard?s Porch) http://Aural-Innovations.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 19:17:35 2012 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Xmike coleman) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 18:17:35 -0500 Subject: The whistle on Zones Message-ID: On my god, it's so f*****g cool,,,,,, From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 15:47:36 2012 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Xmike coleman) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:47:36 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Imaginos Message-ID: I just spotted this on some other watering hole, and thought it worth importing: Please tell me I can still get it "Not listened to this in years, it seems to have fallen down between the cracks in the pavement of time, and is largely impossible to get hold of. Wow, someone's selling a copy on Amazon for 2 grand! Bloody brilliant, and includes the snappily titled "The Seige and Investiture of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria". Methinks a day of the Blue Oyster Cult is about to ensue. "She's as Beautiful as a Foot" anyone? Blue Oyster Cults Last Great Album" From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 27 18:46:08 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:46:08 -0500 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wasn't Imaginos actually re-issued about 5 years ago or so? If so, I haven't heard a reissue copy, so I couldn't say whether the re-issue was also a remaster .... or whether I-ve simply imagined (imaginos'd) the whole thing! Cheers, Carl On 27 Jun 2012, at 14:47 , Xmike coleman wrote: > I just spotted this on some other watering hole, and thought it worth importing: > Please tell me I can still get it > > "Not listened to this in years, it seems to have fallen down between > the cracks in the pavement of time, and is largely impossible to get > hold of. Wow, someone's selling a copy on Amazon for 2 grand! > > Bloody brilliant, and includes the snappily titled "The Seige and > Investiture of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria". > > Methinks a day of the Blue Oyster Cult is about to ensue. "She's as > Beautiful as a Foot" anyone? > > > > Blue Oyster Cults Last Great Album" > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 20:36:48 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:36:48 -0400 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <3EAD90D6-61F6-4598-94B1-B0AA34514A45@carlaz.com> Message-ID: It was and it was not even a remaster. The record company's website was a myspace page. Total cheese. Hopefully that will be rectified in the BOC box set. Too bad management is not interested in putting out the other tracks. I will keep lobbying however. Al On Jun 27, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Wasn't Imaginos actually re-issued about 5 years ago or so? If so, I haven't heard a reissue copy, so I couldn't say whether the re-issue was also a remaster .... or whether I-ve simply imagined (imaginos'd) the whole thing! > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 27 Jun 2012, at 14:47 , Xmike coleman wrote: > >> I just spotted this on some other watering hole, and thought it worth importing: >> Please tell me I can still get it >> >> "Not listened to this in years, it seems to have fallen down between >> the cracks in the pavement of time, and is largely impossible to get >> hold of. Wow, someone's selling a copy on Amazon for 2 grand! >> >> Bloody brilliant, and includes the snappily titled "The Seige and >> Investiture of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria". >> >> Methinks a day of the Blue Oyster Cult is about to ensue. "She's as >> Beautiful as a Foot" anyone? >> >> >> >> Blue Oyster Cults Last Great Album" >> > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Wed Jun 27 20:46:34 2012 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (Eric Falk) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:46:34 -0400 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Box Set!!! :D :D :D On 6/27/2012 8:36 PM, Albert Bouchard wrote: > It was and it was not even a remaster. The record company's website was a myspace page. Total cheese. Hopefully that will be rectified in the BOC box set. Too bad management is not interested in putting out the other tracks. I will keep lobbying however. > Al > > On Jun 27, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> Wasn't Imaginos actually re-issued about 5 years ago or so? If so, I haven't heard a reissue copy, so I couldn't say whether the re-issue was also a remaster .... or whether I-ve simply imagined (imaginos'd) the whole thing! >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> On 27 Jun 2012, at 14:47 , Xmike coleman wrote: >> >>> I just spotted this on some other watering hole, and thought it worth importing: >>> Please tell me I can still get it >>> >>> "Not listened to this in years, it seems to have fallen down between >>> the cracks in the pavement of time, and is largely impossible to get >>> hold of. Wow, someone's selling a copy on Amazon for 2 grand! >>> >>> Bloody brilliant, and includes the snappily titled "The Seige and >>> Investiture of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria". >>> >>> Methinks a day of the Blue Oyster Cult is about to ensue. "She's as >>> Beautiful as a Foot" anyone? >>> >>> >>> >>> Blue Oyster Cults Last Great Album" >>> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > -- "It's strange how the simple things in life go on while we become more difficult." --Richard Brautigan From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jun 28 09:31:48 2012 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 06:31:48 -0700 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <4FEBA96A.9000503@efalkmedia.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I want to know about that. The two disc compilation was pretty flimsy on unreleased stuff. Can you report much more, Albert? From: Eric Falk To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Imaginos Box Set!!! :D? :D? :D On 6/27/2012 8:36 PM, Albert Bouchard wrote: > It was and it was not even a remaster. The record company's website was a myspace page. Total cheese. Hopefully that will be rectified in the BOC box set. Too bad management is not interested in putting out the other tracks. I will keep lobbying however. > Al > > On Jun 27, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> Wasn't Imaginos actually re-issued about 5 years ago or so? If so, I haven't heard a reissue copy, so I couldn't say whether the re-issue was also a remaster .... or whether I-ve simply imagined (imaginos'd) the whole thing! >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> On 27 Jun 2012, at 14:47 , Xmike coleman wrote: >> >>> I just spotted this on some other watering hole, and thought it worth importing: >>> Please tell me I can still get it >>> >>> "Not listened to this in years, it seems to have fallen down between >>> the cracks in the pavement of time, and is largely impossible to get >>> hold of. Wow, someone's selling a copy on Amazon for 2 grand! >>> >>> Bloody brilliant, and includes the snappily titled "The Seige and >>> Investiture of Baron Von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria". >>> >>> Methinks a day of the Blue Oyster Cult is about to ensue. "She's as >>> Beautiful as a Foot" anyone? >>> >>> >>> >>> Blue Oyster Cults Last Great Album" >>> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > -- "It's strange how the simple things in life go on ? while we become more difficult."? --Richard Brautigan From mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU Thu Jun 28 09:34:39 2012 From: mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:34:39 -0400 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Albert Bouchard wrote: > Hopefully that will be rectified in the BOC box set. Oooh, details, please. Box set? John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET Thu Jun 28 10:28:32 2012 From: j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET (Jason C. Hillenburg) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:28:32 +0000 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <4FEC5D6F.3040307@exchange.pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare material. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McIntyre" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:34:39 AM Subject: Re: Imaginos Albert Bouchard wrote: > Hopefully that will be rectified in the BOC box set. Oooh, details, please. Box set? John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Jun 28 10:53:29 2012 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:53:29 +0100 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <1694404532.1401512.1340893712586.JavaMail.root@sz0074a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 28/06/2012 15:28, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: > As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare > material. Is that everything up to and including "Imaginos"? -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET Thu Jun 28 11:08:51 2012 From: j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET (Jason C. Hillenburg) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:08:51 +0000 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <4FEC6FE9.1020301@kalyr.com> Message-ID: Yes, it includes Imaginos. I hope a remaster does it justice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hall" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:53:29 AM Subject: Re: Imaginos On 28/06/2012 15:28, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: > As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare > material. Is that everything up to and including "Imaginos"? -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From jt_ at COX.NET Thu Jun 28 11:09:11 2012 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:09:11 -0500 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <4FEC6FE9.1020301@kalyr.com> Message-ID: Does it include Bad Channels? I kid, I kid. Does that mean the rest of the albums are at least getting a bit of remastering as well? Sent from my iBrain On Jun 28, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Tim Hall wrote: > On 28/06/2012 15:28, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: >> As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare >> material. > > Is that everything up to and including "Imaginos"? > > -- > > Tim Hall > Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr > RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET Thu Jun 28 11:16:34 2012 From: j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET (Jason C. Hillenburg) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:16:34 +0000 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <5C09376F-2516-436E-9A9C-15F5DBD15A9A@cox.net> Message-ID: Anything after Imaginos is with another label and, hence, not part of this project. Personally, I'm quite eager to hear a remastered Fire of Unknown Origin and Cultosaurus Erectus. Maybe Mirrors will gain some needed luster as well. Never liked the production on that much. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Thompson" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:09:11 AM Subject: Re: Imaginos Does it include Bad Channels? I kid, I kid. Does that mean the rest of the albums are at least getting a bit of remastering as well? Sent from my iBrain On Jun 28, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Tim Hall wrote: > On 28/06/2012 15:28, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: >> As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare >> material. > > Is that everything up to and including "Imaginos"? > > -- > > Tim Hall > Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr > RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Jun 28 11:18:35 2012 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:18:35 +0100 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <871074285.1403437.1340896594453.JavaMail.root@sz0074a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 28/06/2012 16:16, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: > Anything after Imaginos is with another label and, hence, not part of this project. Personally, I'm quite > eager to hear a remastered Fire of Unknown Origin and Cultosaurus Erectus. Maybe Mirrors will gain > some needed luster as well. Never liked the production on that much. There was a remaster of Cultosaurus a few years back. -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET Thu Jun 28 11:40:01 2012 From: j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET (Jason C. Hillenburg) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:40:01 +0000 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <4FEC75CB.1000207@kalyr.com> Message-ID: Not a Columbia/Sony remaster. Those ended with Some Enchanted Evening, iirc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Hall" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:18:35 AM Subject: Re: Imaginos On 28/06/2012 16:16, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: > Anything after Imaginos is with another label and, hence, not part of this project. Personally, I'm quite > eager to hear a remastered Fire of Unknown Origin and Cultosaurus Erectus. Maybe Mirrors will gain > some needed luster as well. Never liked the production on that much. There was a remaster of Cultosaurus a few years back. -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jun 28 14:32:30 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:32:30 -0500 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 Jun 2012, at 19:36 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > It was and it was not even a remaster. The record company's website was a myspace page. Total cheese. Oops, well, that answers that question! > Hopefully that will be rectified in the BOC box set. Too bad management is not interested in putting out the other tracks. I will keep lobbying however. Oh, please do! More Imaginos is good Imaginos! One can never have too much Imaginos! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Jun 28 14:35:16 2012 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:35:16 +0100 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <77D044E7-4772-468C-B7E1-FF2EC8E00362@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 28/06/2012 19:32, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Oh, please do! More Imaginos is good Imaginos! One can never have too much Imaginos!:) http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2012/jun/27/spice-girls-musicals Yes, I plead guilty to the Imaginos suggestion in the comments. But some on this list might appreciate the Dumpy's Rusty Nuts one too. -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From lownds at GMX.DE Thu Jun 28 14:37:28 2012 From: lownds at GMX.DE (Patrick Charles) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:37:28 +0200 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <77D044E7-4772-468C-B7E1-FF2EC8E00362@carlaz.com> Message-ID: > Oh, please do! More Imaginos is good Imaginos! One can never have too much Imaginos! :) > > second that From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 28 19:55:27 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:55:27 -0400 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <4FEC6FE9.1020301@kalyr.com> Message-ID: Imaginos will be included but they're not planning on including any of the unreleased material which is a mistake IMHO. But all the records are to be remastered. There have been major advances in mastering for iTunes and digital and they will take full advantage of that. On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Tim Hall wrote: > On 28/06/2012 15:28, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: >> As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare >> material. > > Is that everything up to and including "Imaginos"? > > -- > > Tim Hall > Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr > RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Thu Jun 28 20:43:29 2012 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (Eric Falk) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:43:29 -0400 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <110CC20B-B747-4624-92C6-5B475AC439CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: No new unreleased material?? Who do I call to let them know I am sad? Seriously, it might be nice if the fans could get some input. Is Bolle still around? --Eric On 6/28/2012 7:55 PM, Albert Bouchard wrote: > Imaginos will be included but they're not planning on including any of the unreleased material which is a mistake IMHO. But all the records are to be remastered. There have been major advances in mastering for iTunes and digital and they will take full advantage of that. > > On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Tim Hall wrote: > >> On 28/06/2012 15:28, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: >>> As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare >>> material. >> Is that everything up to and including "Imaginos"? >> >> -- >> >> Tim Hall >> Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog >> Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr >> RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg > -- "It's strange how the simple things in life go on while we become more difficult." --Richard Brautigan From j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET Fri Jun 29 02:08:58 2012 From: j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET (Jason C. Hillenburg) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:08:58 +0000 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <4FECFA31.4050509@efalkmedia.com> Message-ID: No, I think what Albert is referring to is that there will be no previously unreleased Imaginos material included in the box set. Considering that the audience for a box set like this is, largely, the hardcore faithful BOC fans, it seems foolish that they wouldn't directly market to them by including previously unreleased material. Ah well. That's why Sony and Steve Schenck make the big bucks and I'm just a poor fan. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Falk" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:43:29 PM Subject: Re: Imaginos No new unreleased material?? Who do I call to let them know I am sad? Seriously, it might be nice if the fans could get some input. Is Bolle still around? --Eric On 6/28/2012 7:55 PM, Albert Bouchard wrote: > Imaginos will be included but they're not planning on including any of the unreleased material which is a mistake IMHO. But all the records are to be remastered. There have been major advances in mastering for iTunes and digital and they will take full advantage of that. > > On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Tim Hall wrote: > >> On 28/06/2012 15:28, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: >>> As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare >>> material. >> Is that everything up to and including "Imaginos"? >> >> -- >> >> Tim Hall >> Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog >> Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr >> RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg > -- "It's strange how the simple things in life go on while we become more difficult." --Richard Brautigan From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 29 09:12:26 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:12:26 -0400 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <1015466864.1435794.1340950138653.JavaMail.root@sz0074a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Yes, I was just referring to stuff from Imaginos. There is going to be a full CD of other unreleased material. Al On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:08 AM, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: > No, I think what Albert is referring to is that there will be no previously unreleased Imaginos material > included in the box set. Considering that the audience for a box set like this is, largely, the hardcore > faithful BOC fans, it seems foolish that they wouldn't directly market to them by including previously > unreleased material. Ah well. That's why Sony and Steve Schenck make the big bucks and I'm just > a poor fan. :) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Falk" > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:43:29 PM > Subject: Re: Imaginos > > No new unreleased material?? Who do I call to let them know I am sad? > > Seriously, it might be nice if the fans could get some input. Is Bolle > still around? > > --Eric > > On 6/28/2012 7:55 PM, Albert Bouchard wrote: >> Imaginos will be included but they're not planning on including any of the unreleased material which is a mistake IMHO. But all the records are to be remastered. There have been major advances in mastering for iTunes and digital and they will take full advantage of that. >> >> On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Tim Hall wrote: >> >>> On 28/06/2012 15:28, Jason C. Hillenburg wrote: >>>> As I've heard it reported, the box set consists of all the Columbia/Sony era albums remastered with an extra disc of unreleased/rare >>>> material. >>> Is that everything up to and including "Imaginos"? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Tim Hall >>> Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog >>> Twitter -> http://twitter.com/kalyr >>> RPG blog -> http://www.kalyr.com/rpg >> > > -- > "It's strange how the simple things in life go on > while we become more difficult." --Richard Brautigan From mbraun31 at COMCAST.NET Sat Jun 30 01:50:40 2012 From: mbraun31 at COMCAST.NET (Matt Braun) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 00:50:40 -0500 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6/28/2012 7:55 PM, Albert Bouchard wrote: >Imaginos will be included but they're not planning on including any of the >unreleased material which is a mistake IMHO. WHAT!? After all this time, still no official release of "Gil Blanco County?" Arrrgh. That shoulda been on the album from the start! I want my money back, and I haven't even shelled it out yet... >But all the records are to be remastered. There have been major advances >in mastering for iTunes and digital and they will take full advantage of that. Mobile Fidelity remastered 3 of the first 4 albums. Then Coumbia/Sony took their shot at the remasters, and tossed in a couple of gems. At least give us *something* new with the repackaging! m@ From lownds at GMX.DE Sat Jun 30 02:30:30 2012 From: lownds at GMX.DE (Patrick Charles) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 08:30:30 +0200 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <26013.1341035440@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I lose track of the different editions. I had a Club Ninja LP back in the day which didn't have a spoken word intro to When the War Comes, and on which Madness to the Method was a little bit shorter. Got it on CD a few years later (alright, many years later) and hey presto, spoken word intro to WtWC and extended outro to MttM. And the Imaginos Demos version of GIl Blanco County, with those marvellous swirling keyboards fore and aft... yes, that needs a proper release. Am 30.06.2012 07:50, schrieb Matt Braun: > On 6/28/2012 7:55 PM, Albert Bouchard wrote: >> Imaginos will be included but they're not planning on including any of the >> unreleased material which is a mistake IMHO. > WHAT!? After all this time, still no official release of "Gil Blanco County?" > Arrrgh. That shoulda been on the album from the start! I want my money back, > and I haven't even shelled it out yet... > >> But all the records are to be remastered. There have been major advances >> in mastering for iTunes and digital and they will take full advantage of that. > Mobile Fidelity remastered 3 of the first 4 albums. Then Coumbia/Sony took > their shot at the remasters, and tossed in a couple of gems. At least give us > *something* new with the repackaging! > > m@ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Jun 30 10:22:29 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:22:29 -0500 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <26013.1341035440@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On 30 Jun 2012, at 00:50 , Matt Braun wrote: > Mobile Fidelity remastered 3 of the first 4 albums. Then Coumbia/Sony took > their shot at the remasters, and tossed in a couple of gems. At least give us > *something* new with the repackaging! With respect to those who oversaw the earlier albums, I'd love to completely remix them -- or at least do dual disc releases with the original mix remastered and then a new remix. I love the performances on the early albums, though I've never been entirely happy with the sound/production. Also, while I realize there is a bit (or more than a bit!) of a cheeeeeeeze factor in the recent trend for bands to re-record entire albums, it's also kind of a shame that the original B?C line-up is so dispersed and scattered these days. Being all still (AFAIK) alive and kicking, it would actually be kind of interesting to hear some "early years revisited" sessions from that line-up. More interesting than _Cult Classic_, anyway! ;) But it seems likely that Blue Coupe is the most active thing happening in the Wider World o' B?C. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET Sat Jun 30 10:30:08 2012 From: j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET (Jason C. Hillenburg) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 14:30:08 +0000 Subject: Imaginos In-Reply-To: <27605F86-26CA-47FA-84CD-1C4922E9BE80@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Far and away the most active thing going on in BOC land. Nor is that very surprising. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:22:29 AM Subject: Re: Imaginos On 30 Jun 2012, at 00:50 , Matt Braun wrote: > Mobile Fidelity remastered 3 of the first 4 albums. Then Coumbia/Sony took > their shot at the remasters, and tossed in a couple of gems. At least give us > *something* new with the repackaging! With respect to those who oversaw the earlier albums, I'd love to completely remix them -- or at least do dual disc releases with the original mix remastered and then a new remix. I love the performances on the early albums, though I've never been entirely happy with the sound/production. Also, while I realize there is a bit (or more than a bit!) of a cheeeeeeeze factor in the recent trend for bands to re-record entire albums, it's also kind of a shame that the original B?C line-up is so dispersed and scattered these days. Being all still (AFAIK) alive and kicking, it would actually be kind of interesting to hear some "early years revisited" sessions from that line-up. More interesting than _Cult Classic_, anyway! ;) But it seems likely that Blue Coupe is the most active thing happening in the Wider World o' B?C. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/