From youless at COX.NET Mon Aug 6 22:27:27 2012 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 22:27:27 -0400 Subject: Hw: Anyone going to Poland for Sept 8th gig? Message-ID: Hi Posting this on behalf of Oscar Swann...whom I know not, but the lingustic assistance could be *very* helpful:- Cheers, Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, Hawkfriends To anyone (considering) travelling to see Hawkwind in Poland on 8 Sep in Inowroc?aw ... I am from U.S. but have been living in Poland "forever" and am, of course, a huge Hawkwind fan. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that Hawkwind is playing for the first time ever here and look forward to a good show. The venue may be a bit out of the way for most of you but for anyone considering ... please come! Inowroc?aw is a very nice little city and I will be showing up around noonish and will be taking in the sights before going to the show ... I am told there is a nice botanical garden, a palace where one can inhale healing salts, also other some good stuff. Would be happy to meet up with anyone (with the exception of completely drugged-out or otherwise unsocial maniacs ... I'll be there with with my wife and children of tender years!) to walk around before show seeing the city; just write to me! I speak Polish and can help with whatever (linguistically, at least). Cheers, Oscar Swan oscar.swan at ingbank.pl From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Aug 9 19:35:41 2012 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 19:35:41 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com AUGUST 9, 2012: NEW SPACE ROCK RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #289). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #289) Litmus - "Slaughterbahn" (from Slaughterbahn) INTRO Oresund Space Collective - "High Rise" (from West, Space and Love) Aural Innovations ID (by Gayle Ellett of Djam Karet) Djam Karet - "Chimera Moon" (from A Night For Baku) Jesus On Mars - "Galactic Pot Healer" (from Jesus On Mars) NOS Project - "Into A New Phase" (from In All Directions) INTRO Floorian - "Daymare" (from Cosmosaic) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Floorian - "How Far, How Fast" (from More Fiend) Floorian - "Overruled" (from What The Buzzing) INTRO Instant Drone Factory - "Both Hands On The Counter/Wake Up For The Night" (from Critical Mass) Instant Drone Factory - "Rhapsodie Chaotique" (from Live) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Instant Drone Factory - "Put Down The Guns" (from Ho Avuto Paura del Mare) Instant Drone Factory - "Falling Down" (from forthcoming Moving Into Darker Places) INTRO Oresund Space Collective - "Ear Meat" (from Phaze Your Fears) http://Aural-Innovations.com From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Aug 11 10:57:19 2012 From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:57:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: <52F66DAB374A5E409EDA53CF7267155803EF615B@exdkmbx001.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 May 2012, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > I am really surprised that there has been no discussion of the new > Hawkwind record. I still don't have mine but some of you out there must > have it by now... What do people think compared to Blood of the Earth?? > Has anyone heard the vinyl? They did a terrible job on the mastering of > the vinyl on the last one, sound was very muddy (way too much low end) > compared to the CD sound. Hope they sort this one out. I have not bought > the vinyl yet as I don't listen to the last one on vinyl due to the > sound issues. > > Anyway, I really look forward to hearing it and digging into the > songs... I actually only got hold of this album in the last couple of weeks, which is a bit poor for a fan I know. I'd been much encouraged by the two tracks I'd heard on Aural Innovations webcasts, and I now realise that in some ways those were the two tracks I was most likely to like (`Seasons' and the hidden track). But I've given it several spins now--I got the expanded edition--and have some opinions, if anyone wants 'em. Overall, though, my current verdict is that I actually like this album better than _Blood of the Earth_ but can't easily explain why since I think the production is unhelpfully dense and that there are fewer stand- out tracks. It just seems like a coherent piece of work by a band that knew what it was after. That, also, seems strange when one looks at who was on the tracks and realises that, for example, Tim Blake's hardly there outside the tracks he wrote parts for, Dibs only gets two writing credits even though he seems omni-present and there's a sizeable part of the album which is all-or-mostly-Dave and which doesn't sound radically different to the rest even so. So my first impression was that this seems like a genuinely active and coherent band, and that looking as it to see whether or not this is `proper Hawkwind' or not is not going to be the right way to listen to it. It's obviously what the band called Hawkwind is doing now. So, track-by-track? `Seasons' is to my ear mainly Dibs's work but Richard actually gets lead credit so what do I know? Intense, fast and hostile; the dense production actually an advantage here, and definitely a highlight that makes one eager to hear more. `The Hills Have Ears'--a doomful Gaia-hypothesis prophecy on which Niall gets lead credit, in which case he should do that more often. The words aren't great but contain a Chrome reference, unexpected but pleasing. On the whole this is no drop in quality from the beginning. `Mind Cut'--all Brock, words music and playing, and none too bad but neither is it stand-out among his work. We've kind of heard this before, and the words are rather basic. (I care about this more as I get older.) `System Check'--a `Psychosis'-style spaceship radio exchange, in which Tim massively over-acts compared to the rest of the crew, bless him. Entertaining filler. `Death Trap'--retread, obviously, but really quite good, up with the _Alien4_ version as a justifiable rework and identifiably, as I say, a different band; this is the point at which I came to the realisation about this line-up's coherence that I set out above. `Southern Cross'--Tim's track, but it sounds like a Hawkwind one all the same, and better-than-entertaining instrumental filler. `Prophecy'--Brock track with only him, Niall and Richard on the recording. Again lyrics not the strong point but reasonably mantric, which forgives that a bit; all the same this isn't a high point. `Electric Tears'/`Drive By'--technically two tracks but I can't detect the separation between them without watching the CD player's display, despite the fact that the line-ups differ, first being just date and the latter being the trio from `Prophecy' again. The bit I think of as `Drive By' is a bit like `Taxi for Max' would have been if they'd stopped and completely rethought how to do something fun in that general frame. There's more thought generally in this pair than most of Hawkwind's synth interludes but they're very short. `Computer Cowards'--just Dave and Richard, and the lyrics uniquely not given in the sleeve. They're not hard to figure out: Dave doesn't like people sniping on the Internet and wishes them an evil fate. Hi Dave! It's in the vein of `Behind the Face' from _Spacebrock_ or `Comfy Chair' but darker, meaner and more musically repetitive, not that I mean that in a bad way. This is Dave's dark side coming out! `Howling Moon'--Brock solo and I've not really anything major to say about it. Probably the least impressive piece of music on the discs. `Right to Decide'--a bonus track, and well, yes, it's about the same as ever it was but with the sound of this new line-up, except in as much as it's the 2008 line-up with Jason Stuart also aboard. I quite liked Jason live but here the plinkety piano adds something dangerously like Rockney to the feel of things, something I think only `Brainbox Pollution' really copes with in the Hawkwind catalogue. Still a good song but rightly relegated to bonus-ville here. `Aerospaceage Inferno'--another bonus with that same line-up, and here again I don't find the piano much of a bonus. The lyrics are printed here, for some reason, whereas none of the other songs from before get this privilege; there's also a middle-eight poem from Dibs, or at least he recites it and it has his general flavour, about a bad re-entry by a spacecraft, which reads quite lamely on the page but which works very well in the setting of the bigger track, and definitely adds something. It's a good version but still, plinkety-plink, I can't look back on that as a good idea however good Jason was at it. `The Flowering of the Rose'--instrumental jam by the 2008 line-up again, and this one quite fun, think `Flight to Maputo' or `Going to Hawaii' or `Only Time Will Tell' but with a bit more going on that's melodic. I'm glad to have got this in the package. `Trans Air Trucking'--a Brock-Blake joint effort, with only them playing, Tim on bass as well as keys, and instrumental. I was hoping for a bit more life and bounce from it given the title, I'd kind of like to see the title taken off it and saved for something else as there isn't so much going on here. Pleasant enough! `Deep Vents'--Brock solo piece, but weirdly like one of Alan's pieces from the early nineties. Could have done with being longer! I like these noises and would cheerfully have had more of them. `Green Finned Demon'--the Brock-Hone-Chadwick trio here and a perfectly good version, but it's hard to say it really adds anything to the song that we didn't have in other versions. By the end of this album it's hard not to think that they powered it out so quickly that they couldn't come up with enough conventional songs so resorted to retreads to space out the synth work and poems. And then there's the hidden track, whose name I would like to know because it's really quite good, lyrics not unlike `Blood of the Earth' and ploughing the same kind of high-octane apocalypticism as `Seasons' at the beginning. I suspect Dibs and Niall of being to the fore on this one, and in general I don't understand why this one's a secret, it should be a matter for pride. Excellent closer. So, there's some filler I think and I question the need for two retreads (in fact I question the need for one but the `Death Trap' is so good I will forgive it) but I'm very happy to have them still active and *sounding like a band*. If they turned out another of this standard in eighteen months that would be a cause for celebration I reckon. So, there you go Scott, some thoughts :-) Yours all, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error Medievalist historian but stands also delivered by some good author." Oxford (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Sat Aug 11 15:50:25 2012 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:50:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Does anyone out there remember the name of the guy that inspired the lyrics to 'Right To Decide'? I think he shot a council member over some planning permission incident. I seem to remember that the band got a lot of stick for supporting him when they issued it the first time round. Cheers Horse On 11/08/2012 15:57, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Wed, 9 May 2012, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >> I am really surprised that there has been no discussion of the new >> Hawkwind record. I still don't have mine but some of you out there >> must have it by now... What do people think compared to Blood of the >> Earth?? Has anyone heard the vinyl? They did a terrible job on the >> mastering of the vinyl on the last one, sound was very muddy (way too >> much low end) compared to the CD sound. Hope they sort this one out. >> I have not bought the vinyl yet as I don't listen to the last one on >> vinyl due to the sound issues. >> >> Anyway, I really look forward to hearing it and digging into the >> songs... > > I actually only got hold of this album in the last couple of weeks, > which is a bit poor for a fan I know. I'd been much encouraged by the > two tracks I'd heard on Aural Innovations webcasts, and I now realise > that in some ways those were the two tracks I was most likely to like > (`Seasons' and the hidden track). But I've given it several spins > now--I got the expanded edition--and have some opinions, if anyone > wants 'em. Overall, though, my current verdict is that I actually like > this album better than _Blood of the Earth_ but can't easily explain > why since I think the production is unhelpfully dense and that there > are fewer stand- > out tracks. It just seems like a coherent piece of work by a band that > knew what it was after. That, also, seems strange when one looks at > who was on the tracks and realises that, for example, Tim Blake's > hardly there outside the tracks he wrote parts for, Dibs only gets two > writing credits even though he seems omni-present and there's a > sizeable part of the album which is all-or-mostly-Dave and which > doesn't sound radically different to the rest even so. So my first > impression was that this seems like a genuinely active and coherent > band, and that looking as it to see whether or not this is `proper > Hawkwind' or not is not going to be the right way to listen to it. > It's obviously what the band called Hawkwind is doing now. > > So, track-by-track? `Seasons' is to my ear mainly Dibs's work but > Richard actually gets lead credit so what do I know? Intense, fast and > hostile; the dense production actually an advantage here, and > definitely a highlight that makes one eager to hear more. > > `The Hills Have Ears'--a doomful Gaia-hypothesis prophecy on which > Niall gets lead credit, in which case he should do that more often. > The words aren't great but contain a Chrome reference, unexpected but > pleasing. On the whole this is no drop in quality from the beginning. > > `Mind Cut'--all Brock, words music and playing, and none too bad but > neither is it stand-out among his work. We've kind of heard this > before, and the words are rather basic. (I care about this more as I > get older.) > > `System Check'--a `Psychosis'-style spaceship radio exchange, in which > Tim massively over-acts compared to the rest of the crew, bless him. > Entertaining filler. > > `Death Trap'--retread, obviously, but really quite good, up with the > _Alien4_ version as a justifiable rework and identifiably, as I say, a > different band; this is the point at which I came to the realisation > about this line-up's coherence that I set out above. > > `Southern Cross'--Tim's track, but it sounds like a Hawkwind one all > the same, and better-than-entertaining instrumental filler. > > `Prophecy'--Brock track with only him, Niall and Richard on the > recording. Again lyrics not the strong point but reasonably mantric, > which forgives that a bit; all the same this isn't a high point. > > `Electric Tears'/`Drive By'--technically two tracks but I can't detect > the separation between them without watching the CD player's display, > despite the fact that the line-ups differ, first being just date and > the latter being the trio from `Prophecy' again. The bit I think of as > `Drive By' is a bit like `Taxi for Max' would have been if they'd > stopped and completely rethought how to do something fun in that > general frame. There's more thought generally in this pair than most > of Hawkwind's synth interludes but they're very short. > > `Computer Cowards'--just Dave and Richard, and the lyrics uniquely not > given in the sleeve. They're not hard to figure out: Dave doesn't like > people sniping on the Internet and wishes them an evil fate. Hi Dave! > It's in the vein of `Behind the Face' from _Spacebrock_ or `Comfy > Chair' but darker, meaner and more musically repetitive, not that I > mean that in a bad way. This is Dave's dark side coming out! > > `Howling Moon'--Brock solo and I've not really anything major to say > about it. Probably the least impressive piece of music on the discs. > > `Right to Decide'--a bonus track, and well, yes, it's about the same > as ever it was but with the sound of this new line-up, except in as > much as it's the 2008 line-up with Jason Stuart also aboard. I quite > liked Jason live but here the plinkety piano adds something > dangerously like Rockney to the feel of things, something I think only > `Brainbox Pollution' really copes with in the Hawkwind catalogue. > Still a good song but rightly relegated to bonus-ville here. > > `Aerospaceage Inferno'--another bonus with that same line-up, and here > again I don't find the piano much of a bonus. The lyrics are printed > here, for some reason, whereas none of the other songs from before get > this privilege; there's also a middle-eight poem from Dibs, or at > least he recites it and it has his general flavour, about a bad > re-entry by a spacecraft, which reads quite lamely on the page but > which works very well in the setting of the bigger track, and > definitely adds something. It's a good version but still, > plinkety-plink, I can't look back on that as a good idea however good > Jason was at it. > > `The Flowering of the Rose'--instrumental jam by the 2008 line-up > again, and this one quite fun, think `Flight to Maputo' or `Going to > Hawaii' or `Only Time Will Tell' but with a bit more going on that's > melodic. I'm glad to have got this in the package. > > `Trans Air Trucking'--a Brock-Blake joint effort, with only them > playing, Tim on bass as well as keys, and instrumental. I was hoping > for a bit more life and bounce from it given the title, I'd kind of > like to see the title taken off it and saved for something else as > there isn't so much going on here. Pleasant enough! > > `Deep Vents'--Brock solo piece, but weirdly like one of Alan's pieces > from the early nineties. Could have done with being longer! I like > these noises and would cheerfully have had more of them. > > `Green Finned Demon'--the Brock-Hone-Chadwick trio here and a > perfectly good version, but it's hard to say it really adds anything > to the song that we didn't have in other versions. By the end of this > album it's hard not to think that they powered it out so quickly that > they couldn't come up with enough conventional songs so resorted to > retreads to space out the synth work and poems. > > And then there's the hidden track, whose name I would like to know > because it's really quite good, lyrics not unlike `Blood of the Earth' > and ploughing the same kind of high-octane apocalypticism as `Seasons' > at the beginning. I suspect Dibs and Niall of being to the fore on > this one, and in general I don't understand why this one's a secret, > it should be a matter for pride. Excellent closer. > > So, there's some filler I think and I question the need for two > retreads (in fact I question the need for one but the `Death Trap' is > so good I will forgive it) but I'm very happy to have them still > active and *sounding like a band*. If they turned out another of this > standard in eighteen months that would be a cause for celebration I > reckon. So, there you go Scott, some thoughts :-) Yours all, > Jon > -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." ? Frank Zappa From lucidsound at IC24.NET Sat Aug 11 16:25:19 2012 From: lucidsound at IC24.NET (Lucidsounds) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:25:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward Message-ID: Albert Dryden. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horse" To: Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward > Does anyone out there remember the name of the guy that inspired the > lyrics to 'Right To Decide'? I think he shot a council member over some > planning permission incident. > I seem to remember that the band got a lot of stick for supporting him > when they issued it the first time round. > > Cheers > > Horse > > > On 11/08/2012 15:57, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> On Wed, 9 May 2012, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >>> I am really surprised that there has been no discussion of the new >>> Hawkwind record. I still don't have mine but some of you out there must >>> have it by now... What do people think compared to Blood of the Earth?? >>> Has anyone heard the vinyl? They did a terrible job on the mastering of >>> the vinyl on the last one, sound was very muddy (way too much low end) >>> compared to the CD sound. Hope they sort this one out. I have not bought >>> the vinyl yet as I don't listen to the last one on vinyl due to the >>> sound issues. >>> >>> Anyway, I really look forward to hearing it and digging into the >>> songs... >> >> I actually only got hold of this album in the last couple of weeks, which >> is a bit poor for a fan I know. I'd been much encouraged by the two >> tracks I'd heard on Aural Innovations webcasts, and I now realise that in >> some ways those were the two tracks I was most likely to like (`Seasons' >> and the hidden track). But I've given it several spins now--I got the >> expanded edition--and have some opinions, if anyone wants 'em. Overall, >> though, my current verdict is that I actually like this album better than >> _Blood of the Earth_ but can't easily explain why since I think the >> production is unhelpfully dense and that there are fewer stand- >> out tracks. It just seems like a coherent piece of work by a band that >> knew what it was after. That, also, seems strange when one looks at who >> was on the tracks and realises that, for example, Tim Blake's hardly >> there outside the tracks he wrote parts for, Dibs only gets two writing >> credits even though he seems omni-present and there's a sizeable part of >> the album which is all-or-mostly-Dave and which doesn't sound radically >> different to the rest even so. So my first impression was that this seems >> like a genuinely active and coherent band, and that looking as it to see >> whether or not this is `proper Hawkwind' or not is not going to be the >> right way to listen to it. It's obviously what the band called Hawkwind >> is doing now. >> >> So, track-by-track? `Seasons' is to my ear mainly Dibs's work but Richard >> actually gets lead credit so what do I know? Intense, fast and hostile; >> the dense production actually an advantage here, and definitely a >> highlight that makes one eager to hear more. >> >> `The Hills Have Ears'--a doomful Gaia-hypothesis prophecy on which Niall >> gets lead credit, in which case he should do that more often. The words >> aren't great but contain a Chrome reference, unexpected but pleasing. On >> the whole this is no drop in quality from the beginning. >> >> `Mind Cut'--all Brock, words music and playing, and none too bad but >> neither is it stand-out among his work. We've kind of heard this before, >> and the words are rather basic. (I care about this more as I get older.) >> >> `System Check'--a `Psychosis'-style spaceship radio exchange, in which >> Tim massively over-acts compared to the rest of the crew, bless him. >> Entertaining filler. >> >> `Death Trap'--retread, obviously, but really quite good, up with the >> _Alien4_ version as a justifiable rework and identifiably, as I say, a >> different band; this is the point at which I came to the realisation >> about this line-up's coherence that I set out above. >> >> `Southern Cross'--Tim's track, but it sounds like a Hawkwind one all the >> same, and better-than-entertaining instrumental filler. >> >> `Prophecy'--Brock track with only him, Niall and Richard on the >> recording. Again lyrics not the strong point but reasonably mantric, >> which forgives that a bit; all the same this isn't a high point. >> >> `Electric Tears'/`Drive By'--technically two tracks but I can't detect >> the separation between them without watching the CD player's display, >> despite the fact that the line-ups differ, first being just date and the >> latter being the trio from `Prophecy' again. The bit I think of as `Drive >> By' is a bit like `Taxi for Max' would have been if they'd stopped and >> completely rethought how to do something fun in that general frame. >> There's more thought generally in this pair than most of Hawkwind's synth >> interludes but they're very short. >> >> `Computer Cowards'--just Dave and Richard, and the lyrics uniquely not >> given in the sleeve. They're not hard to figure out: Dave doesn't like >> people sniping on the Internet and wishes them an evil fate. Hi Dave! >> It's in the vein of `Behind the Face' from _Spacebrock_ or `Comfy Chair' >> but darker, meaner and more musically repetitive, not that I mean that in >> a bad way. This is Dave's dark side coming out! >> >> `Howling Moon'--Brock solo and I've not really anything major to say >> about it. Probably the least impressive piece of music on the discs. >> >> `Right to Decide'--a bonus track, and well, yes, it's about the same as >> ever it was but with the sound of this new line-up, except in as much as >> it's the 2008 line-up with Jason Stuart also aboard. I quite liked Jason >> live but here the plinkety piano adds something dangerously like Rockney >> to the feel of things, something I think only `Brainbox Pollution' really >> copes with in the Hawkwind catalogue. Still a good song but rightly >> relegated to bonus-ville here. >> >> `Aerospaceage Inferno'--another bonus with that same line-up, and here >> again I don't find the piano much of a bonus. The lyrics are printed >> here, for some reason, whereas none of the other songs from before get >> this privilege; there's also a middle-eight poem from Dibs, or at least >> he recites it and it has his general flavour, about a bad re-entry by a >> spacecraft, which reads quite lamely on the page but which works very >> well in the setting of the bigger track, and definitely adds something. >> It's a good version but still, plinkety-plink, I can't look back on that >> as a good idea however good Jason was at it. >> >> `The Flowering of the Rose'--instrumental jam by the 2008 line-up again, >> and this one quite fun, think `Flight to Maputo' or `Going to Hawaii' or >> `Only Time Will Tell' but with a bit more going on that's melodic. I'm >> glad to have got this in the package. >> >> `Trans Air Trucking'--a Brock-Blake joint effort, with only them playing, >> Tim on bass as well as keys, and instrumental. I was hoping for a bit >> more life and bounce from it given the title, I'd kind of like to see the >> title taken off it and saved for something else as there isn't so much >> going on here. Pleasant enough! >> >> `Deep Vents'--Brock solo piece, but weirdly like one of Alan's pieces >> from the early nineties. Could have done with being longer! I like these >> noises and would cheerfully have had more of them. >> >> `Green Finned Demon'--the Brock-Hone-Chadwick trio here and a perfectly >> good version, but it's hard to say it really adds anything to the song >> that we didn't have in other versions. By the end of this album it's hard >> not to think that they powered it out so quickly that they couldn't come >> up with enough conventional songs so resorted to retreads to space out >> the synth work and poems. >> >> And then there's the hidden track, whose name I would like to know >> because it's really quite good, lyrics not unlike `Blood of the Earth' >> and ploughing the same kind of high-octane apocalypticism as `Seasons' at >> the beginning. I suspect Dibs and Niall of being to the fore on this one, >> and in general I don't understand why this one's a secret, it should be a >> matter for pride. Excellent closer. >> >> So, there's some filler I think and I question the need for two retreads >> (in fact I question the need for one but the `Death Trap' is so good I >> will forgive it) but I'm very happy to have them still active and >> *sounding like a band*. If they turned out another of this standard in >> eighteen months that would be a cause for celebration I reckon. So, there >> you go Scott, some thoughts :-) Yours all, >> Jon >> > > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > ? Frank Zappa From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Sat Aug 11 17:17:48 2012 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:17:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's the one :) Cheers On 11/08/2012 21:25, Lucidsounds wrote: > Albert Dryden. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horse" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward > > >> Does anyone out there remember the name of the guy that inspired the >> lyrics to 'Right To Decide'? I think he shot a council member over >> some planning permission incident. >> I seem to remember that the band got a lot of stick for supporting >> him when they issued it the first time round. >> >> Cheers >> >> Horse >> >> >> On 11/08/2012 15:57, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>> On Wed, 9 May 2012, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >>>> I am really surprised that there has been no discussion of the new >>>> Hawkwind record. I still don't have mine but some of you out there >>>> must have it by now... What do people think compared to Blood of >>>> the Earth?? Has anyone heard the vinyl? They did a terrible job on >>>> the mastering of the vinyl on the last one, sound was very muddy >>>> (way too much low end) compared to the CD sound. Hope they sort >>>> this one out. I have not bought the vinyl yet as I don't listen to >>>> the last one on vinyl due to the sound issues. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I really look forward to hearing it and digging into the >>>> songs... >>> >>> I actually only got hold of this album in the last couple of weeks, >>> which is a bit poor for a fan I know. I'd been much encouraged by >>> the two tracks I'd heard on Aural Innovations webcasts, and I now >>> realise that in some ways those were the two tracks I was most >>> likely to like (`Seasons' and the hidden track). But I've given it >>> several spins now--I got the expanded edition--and have some >>> opinions, if anyone wants 'em. Overall, though, my current verdict >>> is that I actually like this album better than _Blood of the Earth_ >>> but can't easily explain why since I think the production is >>> unhelpfully dense and that there are fewer stand- >>> out tracks. It just seems like a coherent piece of work by a band >>> that knew what it was after. That, also, seems strange when one >>> looks at who was on the tracks and realises that, for example, Tim >>> Blake's hardly there outside the tracks he wrote parts for, Dibs >>> only gets two writing credits even though he seems omni-present and >>> there's a sizeable part of the album which is all-or-mostly-Dave and >>> which doesn't sound radically different to the rest even so. So my >>> first impression was that this seems like a genuinely active and >>> coherent band, and that looking as it to see whether or not this is >>> `proper Hawkwind' or not is not going to be the right way to listen >>> to it. It's obviously what the band called Hawkwind is doing now. >>> >>> So, track-by-track? `Seasons' is to my ear mainly Dibs's work but >>> Richard actually gets lead credit so what do I know? Intense, fast >>> and hostile; the dense production actually an advantage here, and >>> definitely a highlight that makes one eager to hear more. >>> >>> `The Hills Have Ears'--a doomful Gaia-hypothesis prophecy on which >>> Niall gets lead credit, in which case he should do that more often. >>> The words aren't great but contain a Chrome reference, unexpected >>> but pleasing. On the whole this is no drop in quality from the >>> beginning. >>> >>> `Mind Cut'--all Brock, words music and playing, and none too bad but >>> neither is it stand-out among his work. We've kind of heard this >>> before, and the words are rather basic. (I care about this more as I >>> get older.) >>> >>> `System Check'--a `Psychosis'-style spaceship radio exchange, in >>> which Tim massively over-acts compared to the rest of the crew, >>> bless him. Entertaining filler. >>> >>> `Death Trap'--retread, obviously, but really quite good, up with the >>> _Alien4_ version as a justifiable rework and identifiably, as I say, >>> a different band; this is the point at which I came to the >>> realisation about this line-up's coherence that I set out above. >>> >>> `Southern Cross'--Tim's track, but it sounds like a Hawkwind one all >>> the same, and better-than-entertaining instrumental filler. >>> >>> `Prophecy'--Brock track with only him, Niall and Richard on the >>> recording. Again lyrics not the strong point but reasonably mantric, >>> which forgives that a bit; all the same this isn't a high point. >>> >>> `Electric Tears'/`Drive By'--technically two tracks but I can't >>> detect the separation between them without watching the CD player's >>> display, despite the fact that the line-ups differ, first being just >>> date and the latter being the trio from `Prophecy' again. The bit I >>> think of as `Drive By' is a bit like `Taxi for Max' would have been >>> if they'd stopped and completely rethought how to do something fun >>> in that general frame. There's more thought generally in this pair >>> than most of Hawkwind's synth interludes but they're very short. >>> >>> `Computer Cowards'--just Dave and Richard, and the lyrics uniquely >>> not given in the sleeve. They're not hard to figure out: Dave >>> doesn't like people sniping on the Internet and wishes them an evil >>> fate. Hi Dave! It's in the vein of `Behind the Face' from >>> _Spacebrock_ or `Comfy Chair' but darker, meaner and more musically >>> repetitive, not that I mean that in a bad way. This is Dave's dark >>> side coming out! >>> >>> `Howling Moon'--Brock solo and I've not really anything major to say >>> about it. Probably the least impressive piece of music on the discs. >>> >>> `Right to Decide'--a bonus track, and well, yes, it's about the same >>> as ever it was but with the sound of this new line-up, except in as >>> much as it's the 2008 line-up with Jason Stuart also aboard. I quite >>> liked Jason live but here the plinkety piano adds something >>> dangerously like Rockney to the feel of things, something I think >>> only `Brainbox Pollution' really copes with in the Hawkwind >>> catalogue. Still a good song but rightly relegated to bonus-ville here. >>> >>> `Aerospaceage Inferno'--another bonus with that same line-up, and >>> here again I don't find the piano much of a bonus. The lyrics are >>> printed here, for some reason, whereas none of the other songs from >>> before get this privilege; there's also a middle-eight poem from >>> Dibs, or at least he recites it and it has his general flavour, >>> about a bad re-entry by a spacecraft, which reads quite lamely on >>> the page but which works very well in the setting of the bigger >>> track, and definitely adds something. It's a good version but still, >>> plinkety-plink, I can't look back on that as a good idea however >>> good Jason was at it. >>> >>> `The Flowering of the Rose'--instrumental jam by the 2008 line-up >>> again, and this one quite fun, think `Flight to Maputo' or `Going to >>> Hawaii' or `Only Time Will Tell' but with a bit more going on that's >>> melodic. I'm glad to have got this in the package. >>> >>> `Trans Air Trucking'--a Brock-Blake joint effort, with only them >>> playing, Tim on bass as well as keys, and instrumental. I was hoping >>> for a bit more life and bounce from it given the title, I'd kind of >>> like to see the title taken off it and saved for something else as >>> there isn't so much going on here. Pleasant enough! >>> >>> `Deep Vents'--Brock solo piece, but weirdly like one of Alan's >>> pieces from the early nineties. Could have done with being longer! I >>> like these noises and would cheerfully have had more of them. >>> >>> `Green Finned Demon'--the Brock-Hone-Chadwick trio here and a >>> perfectly good version, but it's hard to say it really adds anything >>> to the song that we didn't have in other versions. By the end of >>> this album it's hard not to think that they powered it out so >>> quickly that they couldn't come up with enough conventional songs so >>> resorted to retreads to space out the synth work and poems. >>> >>> And then there's the hidden track, whose name I would like to know >>> because it's really quite good, lyrics not unlike `Blood of the >>> Earth' and ploughing the same kind of high-octane apocalypticism as >>> `Seasons' at the beginning. I suspect Dibs and Niall of being to the >>> fore on this one, and in general I don't understand why this one's a >>> secret, it should be a matter for pride. Excellent closer. >>> >>> So, there's some filler I think and I question the need for two >>> retreads (in fact I question the need for one but the `Death Trap' >>> is so good I will forgive it) but I'm very happy to have them still >>> active and *sounding like a band*. If they turned out another of >>> this standard in eighteen months that would be a cause for >>> celebration I reckon. So, there you go Scott, some thoughts :-) >>> Yours all, >>> Jon >>> >> >> -- >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring >> production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> ? Frank Zappa > -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." ? Frank Zappa From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Aug 13 12:33:56 2012 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 Subject: BOC news Message-ID: BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC CONCERT Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection, a ... monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set will be available Tuesday, October 30. Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, August 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C experience, each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square concert; a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. From stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Aug 12 13:42:09 2012 From: stewartbas at AOL.COM (stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:42:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: <5026CBFC.6050509@darkstar.uk.net> Message-ID: I was kinda hoping the hawks would use the unexpurgated lyrics to Right to Decide. bill s -----Original Message----- From: Horse To: BOC-L Sent: Sat, Aug 11, 2012 6:20 pm Subject: Re: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward That's the one :) Cheers On 11/08/2012 21:25, Lucidsounds wrote: > Albert Dryden. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horse" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward > > >> Does anyone out there remember the name of the guy that inspired the >> lyrics to 'Right To Decide'? I think he shot a council member over >> some planning permission incident. >> I seem to remember that the band got a lot of stick for supporting >> him when they issued it the first time round. >> >> Cheers >> >> Horse >> >> >> On 11/08/2012 15:57, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>> On Wed, 9 May 2012, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >>>> I am really surprised that there has been no discussion of the new >>>> Hawkwind record. I still don't have mine but some of you out there >>>> must have it by now... What do people think compared to Blood of >>>> the Earth?? Has anyone heard the vinyl? They did a terrible job on >>>> the mastering of the vinyl on the last one, sound was very muddy >>>> (way too much low end) compared to the CD sound. Hope they sort >>>> this one out. I have not bought the vinyl yet as I don't listen to >>>> the last one on vinyl due to the sound issues. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I really look forward to hearing it and digging into the >>>> songs... >>> >>> I actually only got hold of this album in the last couple of weeks, >>> which is a bit poor for a fan I know. I'd been much encouraged by >>> the two tracks I'd heard on Aural Innovations webcasts, and I now >>> realise that in some ways those were the two tracks I was most >>> likely to like (`Seasons' and the hidden track). But I've given it >>> several spins now--I got the expanded edition--and have some >>> opinions, if anyone wants 'em. Overall, though, my current verdict >>> is that I actually like this album better than _Blood of the Earth_ >>> but can't easily explain why since I think the production is >>> unhelpfully dense and that there are fewer stand- >>> out tracks. It just seems like a coherent piece of work by a band >>> that knew what it was after. That, also, seems strange when one >>> looks at who was on the tracks and realises that, for example, Tim >>> Blake's hardly there outside the tracks he wrote parts for, Dibs >>> only gets two writing credits even though he seems omni-present and >>> there's a sizeable part of the album which is all-or-mostly-Dave and >>> which doesn't sound radically different to the rest even so. So my >>> first impression was that this seems like a genuinely active and >>> coherent band, and that looking as it to see whether or not this is >>> `proper Hawkwind' or not is not going to be the right way to listen >>> to it. It's obviously what the band called Hawkwind is doing now. >>> >>> So, track-by-track? `Seasons' is to my ear mainly Dibs's work but >>> Richard actually gets lead credit so what do I know? Intense, fast >>> and hostile; the dense production actually an advantage here, and >>> definitely a highlight that makes one eager to hear more. >>> >>> `The Hills Have Ears'--a doomful Gaia-hypothesis prophecy on which >>> Niall gets lead credit, in which case he should do that more often. >>> The words aren't great but contain a Chrome reference, unexpected >>> but pleasing. On the whole this is no drop in quality from the >>> beginning. >>> >>> `Mind Cut'--all Brock, words music and playing, and none too bad but >>> neither is it stand-out among his work. We've kind of heard this >>> before, and the words are rather basic. (I care about this more as I >>> get older.) >>> >>> `System Check'--a `Psychosis'-style spaceship radio exchange, in >>> which Tim massively over-acts compared to the rest of the crew, >>> bless him. Entertaining filler. >>> >>> `Death Trap'--retread, obviously, but really quite good, up with the >>> _Alien4_ version as a justifiable rework and identifiably, as I say, >>> a different band; this is the point at which I came to the >>> realisation about this line-up's coherence that I set out above. >>> >>> `Southern Cross'--Tim's track, but it sounds like a Hawkwind one all >>> the same, and better-than-entertaining instrumental filler. >>> >>> `Prophecy'--Brock track with only him, Niall and Richard on the >>> recording. Again lyrics not the strong point but reasonably mantric, >>> which forgives that a bit; all the same this isn't a high point. >>> >>> `Electric Tears'/`Drive By'--technically two tracks but I can't >>> detect the separation between them without watching the CD player's >>> display, despite the fact that the line-ups differ, first being just >>> date and the latter being the trio from `Prophecy' again. The bit I >>> think of as `Drive By' is a bit like `Taxi for Max' would have been >>> if they'd stopped and completely rethought how to do something fun >>> in that general frame. There's more thought generally in this pair >>> than most of Hawkwind's synth interludes but they're very short. >>> >>> `Computer Cowards'--just Dave and Richard, and the lyrics uniquely >>> not given in the sleeve. They're not hard to figure out: Dave >>> doesn't like people sniping on the Internet and wishes them an evil >>> fate. Hi Dave! It's in the vein of `Behind the Face' from >>> _Spacebrock_ or `Comfy Chair' but darker, meaner and more musically >>> repetitive, not that I mean that in a bad way. This is Dave's dark >>> side coming out! >>> >>> `Howling Moon'--Brock solo and I've not really anything major to say >>> about it. Probably the least impressive piece of music on the discs. >>> >>> `Right to Decide'--a bonus track, and well, yes, it's about the same >>> as ever it was but with the sound of this new line-up, except in as >>> much as it's the 2008 line-up with Jason Stuart also aboard. I quite >>> liked Jason live but here the plinkety piano adds something >>> dangerously like Rockney to the feel of things, something I think >>> only `Brainbox Pollution' really copes with in the Hawkwind >>> catalogue. Still a good song but rightly relegated to bonus-ville here. >>> >>> `Aerospaceage Inferno'--another bonus with that same line-up, and >>> here again I don't find the piano much of a bonus. The lyrics are >>> printed here, for some reason, whereas none of the other songs from >>> before get this privilege; there's also a middle-eight poem from >>> Dibs, or at least he recites it and it has his general flavour, >>> about a bad re-entry by a spacecraft, which reads quite lamely on >>> the page but which works very well in the setting of the bigger >>> track, and definitely adds something. It's a good version but still, >>> plinkety-plink, I can't look back on that as a good idea however >>> good Jason was at it. >>> >>> `The Flowering of the Rose'--instrumental jam by the 2008 line-up >>> again, and this one quite fun, think `Flight to Maputo' or `Going to >>> Hawaii' or `Only Time Will Tell' but with a bit more going on that's >>> melodic. I'm glad to have got this in the package. >>> >>> `Trans Air Trucking'--a Brock-Blake joint effort, with only them >>> playing, Tim on bass as well as keys, and instrumental. I was hoping >>> for a bit more life and bounce from it given the title, I'd kind of >>> like to see the title taken off it and saved for something else as >>> there isn't so much going on here. Pleasant enough! >>> >>> `Deep Vents'--Brock solo piece, but weirdly like one of Alan's >>> pieces from the early nineties. Could have done with being longer! I >>> like these noises and would cheerfully have had more of them. >>> >>> `Green Finned Demon'--the Brock-Hone-Chadwick trio here and a >>> perfectly good version, but it's hard to say it really adds anything >>> to the song that we didn't have in other versions. By the end of >>> this album it's hard not to think that they powered it out so >>> quickly that they couldn't come up with enough conventional songs so >>> resorted to retreads to space out the synth work and poems. >>> >>> And then there's the hidden track, whose name I would like to know >>> because it's really quite good, lyrics not unlike `Blood of the >>> Earth' and ploughing the same kind of high-octane apocalypticism as >>> `Seasons' at the beginning. I suspect Dibs and Niall of being to the >>> fore on this one, and in general I don't understand why this one's a >>> secret, it should be a matter for pride. Excellent closer. >>> >>> So, there's some filler I think and I question the need for two >>> retreads (in fact I question the need for one but the `Death Trap' >>> is so good I will forgive it) but I'm very happy to have them still >>> active and *sounding like a band*. If they turned out another of >>> this standard in eighteen months that would be a cause for >>> celebration I reckon. So, there you go Scott, some thoughts :-) >>> Yours all, >>> Jon >>> >> >> -- >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring >> production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> ? Frank Zappa > -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." ? Frank Zappa From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 15 14:09:24 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:09:24 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind Onward In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 11 Aug 2012, at 09:57 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > `Right to Decide'--a bonus track, and well, yes, it's about the same as ever it was but with the sound of this new line-up, except in as much as it's the 2008 line-up with Jason Stuart also aboard. I quite liked Jason live but here the plinkety piano adds something dangerously like Rockney to the feel of things, something I think only `Brainbox Pollution' really copes with in the Hawkwind catalogue. Still a good song but rightly relegated to bonus-ville here. > `Aerospaceage Inferno'--another bonus with that same line-up, and here again I don't find the piano much of a bonus. [...] It's a good version but still, plinkety-plink, I can't look back on that as a good idea however good Jason was at it. There are a few places in the Hawkwind catalogue where the piano works very well (e.g. "Paradox"), but perhaps many more places where it does not. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From coffeebaker at SBCGLOBAL.NET Thu Aug 16 00:33:58 2012 From: coffeebaker at SBCGLOBAL.NET (Chris Baker) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:33:58 -0700 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Special guests and other surprises", huh? If I thought this meant a one-night-only reunion of the original lineup I'd fly across the country (as little as I can afford to), but I can't imagine that anything of the sort is in the works. (Albert..?) from the band site: --------- Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes: 1. Blue ?yster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) 2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) 3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster 5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) 6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) 7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) 8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live) 9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster 10. Cult?saurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster 11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster 12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster 13. The Rev?lution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster 14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster 15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster 16. Rarities 17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts In addition, the Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box set comes with a special download code good for four live concert broadcasts as well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes from celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye. --------- I'm psyched about the remasters that we haven't heard yet, not particularly surprised that there are no bonus tracks indicated but presumably that's where the Rarities come in. I'd certainly prefer the rarities skew early rather than late - i.e. I don't much care about stuff deemed not good enough for Club Ninja :) -Chris On 8/14/12 2:00 AM, "BOC-L automatic digest system" wrote: > There is 1 message totaling 32 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. BOC news > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 > From: gary shindler > Subject: BOC news > > BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC CONCERT > Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will > celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the > eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged > punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia > Albums Collection, a ... > monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official > canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening > DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set > will be available Tuesday, October 30. > > Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" > Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring > special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, > Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, > August 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. > > A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square > Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C experience, > each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums > Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in > the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square concert; > a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue > ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. > > ------------------------------ > > End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) > ************************************************************ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Aug 16 02:15:10 2012 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:15:10 -0500 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 15 Aug 2012, at 23:33 , Chris Baker wrote: > "Special guests and other surprises", huh? I thought I saw something fly across my radar suggesting an acoustic thingy (2?C Unplugged?), but I'm not sure I read or remember aright .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 16 10:17:25 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:17:25 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to me too. On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Chris Baker wrote: > "Special guests and other surprises", huh? > > If I thought this meant a one-night-only reunion of the original lineup I'd > fly across the country (as little as I can afford to), but I can't imagine > that anything of the sort is in the works. (Albert..?) > > from the band site: > --------- > Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes: > > 1. Blue ?yster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) > 2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) > 3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) > 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster > 5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) > 6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) > 7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) > 8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live) > 9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 10. Cult?saurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster > 13. The Rev?lution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 16. Rarities > 17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts > > In addition, the Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box set > comes with a special download code good for four live concert broadcasts as > well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes from > celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye. > --------- > > I'm psyched about the remasters that we haven't heard yet, not particularly > surprised that there are no bonus tracks indicated but presumably that's > where the Rarities come in. I'd certainly prefer the rarities skew early > rather than late - i.e. I don't much care about stuff deemed not good > enough for Club Ninja :) > > -Chris > > > On 8/14/12 2:00 AM, "BOC-L automatic digest system" > wrote: > >> There is 1 message totaling 32 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. BOC news >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 >> From: gary shindler >> Subject: BOC news >> >> BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC CONCERT >> Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will >> celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the >> eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged >> punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia >> Albums Collection, a ... >> monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official >> canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening >> DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set >> will be available Tuesday, October 30. >> >> Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" >> Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring >> special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, >> Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, >> August 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. >> >> A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square >> Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C experience, >> each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums >> Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in >> the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square concert; >> a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue >> ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) >> ************************************************************ From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Thu Aug 16 10:45:06 2012 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:45:06 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) In-Reply-To: <32A342A3-F11B-4319-A6B5-CD2113BB3A3B@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2 Friends and I bought tickets yesterday. I can't speak for them though I have a feeling that they may feel the same as me: I feel this is going to be more of a curiosity than anything else. We had gotten to the point a long time ago where the shows had become so disappointing that we would go 2 years between seeing them. The last show we saw was so bad that it we stopped entirely in 2007. My hopes here is that BOC will rise to the occasion for this event. Special guest stars??? I don't expect to see Joe or Albert, though I would LOVE too!! I expect Rudy Sarzo, and some other guys who have previously been in the band, maybe Robbie Krieger , and perhaps some local some-what known NYC area musicians (no names come to mind right now unfortunately). Maybe the guys from Blotto. I hope to be pleasantly surprised on October 28th, but don't expect it to be much more than another good night out with my friends. --Eric On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:17:25 -0400, Albert Bouchard wrote: > If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a > "surprise" to me too. > > On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Chris Baker wrote: > >> "Special guests and other surprises", huh? >> >> If I thought this meant a one-night-only reunion of the original lineup >> I'd >> fly across the country (as little as I can afford to), but I can't >> imagine >> that anything of the sort is in the works. (Albert..?) >> >> from the band site: >> --------- >> Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes: >> >> 1. Blue ?yster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live) >> 9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 10. Cult?saurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 13. The Rev?lution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 16. Rarities >> 17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts >> >> In addition, the Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box >> set >> comes with a special download code good for four live concert >> broadcasts as >> well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes >> from >> celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye. >> --------- >> >> I'm psyched about the remasters that we haven't heard yet, not >> particularly >> surprised that there are no bonus tracks indicated but presumably that's >> where the Rarities come in. I'd certainly prefer the rarities skew >> early >> rather than late - i.e. I don't much care about stuff deemed not good >> enough for Club Ninja :) >> >> -Chris >> >> >> On 8/14/12 2:00 AM, "BOC-L automatic digest system" >> wrote: >> >>> There is 1 message totaling 32 lines in this issue. >>> >>> Topics of the day: >>> >>> 1. BOC news >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 >>> From: gary shindler >>> Subject: BOC news >>> >>> BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC >>> CONCERT >>> Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, >>> will >>> celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, >>> the >>> eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band >>> presaged >>> punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The >>> Columbia >>> Albums Collection, a ... >>> monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full >>> official >>> canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted >>> Evening >>> DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible >>> boxed set >>> will be available Tuesday, October 30. >>> >>> Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck >>> Dharma" >>> Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square >>> show--featuring >>> special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & >>> Broadway, >>> Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, >>> Friday, >>> August 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. >>> >>> A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times >>> Square >>> Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C >>> experience, >>> each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums >>> Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed >>> seat in >>> the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square >>> concert; >>> a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition >>> Blue >>> ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) >>> ************************************************************ > -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 16 11:31:46 2012 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:31:46 -0700 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) In-Reply-To: <32A342A3-F11B-4319-A6B5-CD2113BB3A3B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Do you communicate much with them, Al, or just their manager? ________________________________ From: Albert Bouchard To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:17 AM Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to me too. On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Chris Baker wrote: > "Special guests and other surprises", huh? > > If I thought this meant a one-night-only reunion of the original lineup I'd > fly across the country (as little as I can afford to), but I can't imagine > that anything of the sort is in the works.? (Albert..?) > > from the band site: > --------- > Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes: > > 1. Blue ?yster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) > 2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) > 3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) > 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster > 5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) > 6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) > 7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) > 8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live) > 9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 10. Cult?saurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster > 13. The Rev?lution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster > 16. Rarities > 17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts > > In addition, the Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box set > comes with a special download code good for four live concert broadcasts as > well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes from > celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye. > --------- > > I'm psyched about the remasters that we haven't heard yet, not particularly > surprised that there are no bonus tracks indicated but presumably that's > where the Rarities come in.? I'd certainly prefer the rarities skew early > rather than late? - i.e. I don't much care about stuff deemed not good > enough for Club Ninja :) > > -Chris > > > On 8/14/12 2:00 AM, "BOC-L automatic digest system" > wrote: > >> There is 1 message totaling 32 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >>? 1. BOC news >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date:? ? Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 >> From:? ? gary shindler >> Subject: BOC news >> >> BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC CONCERT >> Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will >> celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the >> eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged >> punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia >> Albums Collection, a ... >> monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official >> canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening >> DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set >> will be available Tuesday, October 30. >> >> Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" >> Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring >> special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, >> Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, >> August 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. >> >> A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square >> Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C experience, >> each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums >> Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in >> the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square concert; >> a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue >> ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) >> ************************************************************ From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 16 11:36:47 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:36:47 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) In-Reply-To: <1345131106.91744.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Usually I call management about issues but I usually email Eric or Don every couple months to say hi. Al On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:31 AM, gary shindler wrote: > Do you communicate much with them, Al, or just their manager? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Albert Bouchard > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) > > If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to me too. > > On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Chris Baker wrote: > >> "Special guests and other surprises", huh? >> >> If I thought this meant a one-night-only reunion of the original lineup I'd >> fly across the country (as little as I can afford to), but I can't imagine >> that anything of the sort is in the works. (Albert..?) >> >> from the band site: >> --------- >> Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes: >> >> 1. Blue ?yster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live) >> 9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 10. Cult?saurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 13. The Rev?lution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 16. Rarities >> 17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts >> >> In addition, the Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box set >> comes with a special download code good for four live concert broadcasts as >> well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes from >> celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye. >> --------- >> >> I'm psyched about the remasters that we haven't heard yet, not particularly >> surprised that there are no bonus tracks indicated but presumably that's >> where the Rarities come in. I'd certainly prefer the rarities skew early >> rather than late - i.e. I don't much care about stuff deemed not good >> enough for Club Ninja :) >> >> -Chris >> >> >> On 8/14/12 2:00 AM, "BOC-L automatic digest system" >> wrote: >> >>> There is 1 message totaling 32 lines in this issue. >>> >>> Topics of the day: >>> >>> 1. BOC news >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 >>> From: gary shindler >>> Subject: BOC news >>> >>> BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC CONCERT >>> Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will >>> celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the >>> eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged >>> punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia >>> Albums Collection, a ... >>> monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official >>> canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening >>> DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set >>> will be available Tuesday, October 30. >>> >>> Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" >>> Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring >>> special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, >>> Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, >>> August 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. >>> >>> A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square >>> Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C experience, >>> each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums >>> Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in >>> the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square concert; >>> a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue >>> ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) >>> ************************************************************ From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 16 12:12:58 2012 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:12:58 +0100 Subject: Good piece of History of Prog Message-ID: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/prog_spring/features/2012/prog_rock/history_of_prog_the_nice_emerson_lake_palmer_and_other_bands_of_the_1970s_.html -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 16 12:22:43 2012 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:22:43 -0700 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) In-Reply-To: <54345E6B-DCAE-4E06-BC96-CA3A5CD4A29A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Albert If you're going to be around Sunday, lets have an adult beverage together.? It's been awhile. Joe ? From: Albert Bouchard To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:36 AM Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) Usually I call management about issues but I usually email Eric or Don every couple months to say hi. Al On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:31 AM, gary shindler wrote: > Do you communicate much with them, Al, or just their manager? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Albert Bouchard > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) > > If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to me too. > > On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Chris Baker wrote: > >> "Special guests and other surprises", huh? >> >> If I thought this meant a one-night-only reunion of the original lineup I'd >> fly across the country (as little as I can afford to), but I can't imagine >> that anything of the sort is in the works.? (Albert..?) >> >> from the band site: >> --------- >> Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes: >> >> 1. Blue ?yster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live) >> 9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 10. Cult?saurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 13. The Rev?lution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 16. Rarities >> 17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts >> >> In addition, the Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box set >> comes with a special download code good for four live concert broadcasts as >> well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes from >> celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye. >> --------- >> >> I'm psyched about the remasters that we haven't heard yet, not particularly >> surprised that there are no bonus tracks indicated but presumably that's >> where the Rarities come in.? I'd certainly prefer the rarities skew early >> rather than late? - i.e. I don't much care about stuff deemed not good >> enough for Club Ninja :) >> >> -Chris >> >> >> On 8/14/12 2:00 AM, "BOC-L automatic digest system" >> wrote: >> >>> There is 1 message totaling 32 lines in this issue. >>> >>> Topics of the day: >>> >>>? 1. BOC news >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date:? ? Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 >>> From:? ? gary shindler >>> Subject: BOC news >>> >>> BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC CONCERT >>> Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will >>> celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the >>> eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged >>> punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia >>> Albums Collection, a ... >>> monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official >>> canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening >>> DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set >>> will be available Tuesday, October 30. >>> >>> Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" >>> Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring >>> special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, >>> Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, >>> August 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. >>> >>> A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square >>> Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C experience, >>> each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums >>> Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in >>> the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square concert; >>> a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue >>> ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) >>> ************************************************************ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 16 12:51:27 2012 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (bewlay68@yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:51:27 -0700 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) Message-ID: ---Original Message--- From: "BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List" Sent: 8/16/2012 10:41 am To: " " Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) Usually I call management about issues but I usually email Eric or Don every couple months to say hi. Al On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:31 AM, gary shindler wrote: > Do you communicate much with them, Al, or just their manager? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Albert Bouchard > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) > > If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to me too. > > On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Chris Baker wrote: > >> "Special guests and other surprises", huh? >> >> If I thought this meant a one-night-only reunion of the original lineup I'd >> fly across the country (as little as I can afford to), but I can't imagine >> that anything of the sort is in the works. (Albert..?) >> >> from the band site: >> --------- >> Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes: >> >> 1. Blue ?yster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live) >> 9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 10. Cult?saurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 13. The Rev?lution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 16. Rarities >> 17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts >> >> In addition, the Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box set >> co mes with a special download code good for four live concert broadcasts as >> well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes from >> celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye. >> --------- >> >> I'm psyched about the remasters that we haven't heard yet, not particularly >> surprised that there are no bonus tracks indicated but presumably that's >> where the Rarities come in. I'd certainly prefer the rarities skew early >> rather than late - i.e. I don't much care about stuff deemed not good >> enough for Club Ninja :) >> >> -Chris >> >> >> On 8/14/12 2:00 AM, "BOC-L automatic digest system" >> wrote: >> >>> There is 1 message totaling 32 lines in this issue. >>> >>> Topics of the day: >>> >>> 1. BOC news >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 >>> From: gary shindler >>> Subject: BOC news >>> >>> BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC CONCERT >>> Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will >>> celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the >>> eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged >>> punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia >>> Albums Collection, a ... >>> monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official >>> canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening >>> DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set >>> will be available Tuesday, October 30. >>> >>> Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" >>> Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring >>> special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, >>> Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, >>> Au gust 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. >>> >>> A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square >>> Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C experience, >>> each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums >>> Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in >>> the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square concert; >>> a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue >>> ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) >>> ************************************************************ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 16 12:52:40 2012 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (bewlay68@yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:52:40 -0700 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) Message-ID: Alan Lanier's status? He stopped touring. How is he? ---Original Message--- From: "BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List" Sent: 8/16/2012 10:41 am To: " " Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) Usually I call management about issues but I usually email Eric or Don every couple months to say hi. Al On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:31 AM, gary shindler wrote: > Do you communicate much with them, Al, or just their manager? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Albert Bouchard > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) > > If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to me too. > > On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Chris Baker wrote: > >> "Special guests and other surprises", huh? >> >> If I thought this meant a one-night-only reunion of the original lineup I'd >> fly across the country (as little as I can afford to), but I can't imagine >> that anything of the sort is in the works. (Albert..?) >> >> from the band site: >> --------- >> Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes: >> >> 1. Blue ?yster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) >> 6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks) >> 8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live) >> 9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 10. Cult?saurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster >> 13. The Rev?lution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster >> 16. Rarities >> 17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts >> >> In addition, the Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box set >> co mes with a special download code good for four live concert broadcasts as >> well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes from >> celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye. >> --------- >> >> I'm psyched about the remasters that we haven't heard yet, not particularly >> surprised that there are no bonus tracks indicated but presumably that's >> where the Rarities come in. I'd certainly prefer the rarities skew early >> rather than late - i.e. I don't much care about stuff deemed not good >> enough for Club Ninja :) >> >> -Chris >> >> >> On 8/14/12 2:00 AM, "BOC-L automatic digest system" >> wrote: >> >>> There is 1 message totaling 32 lines in this issue. >>> >>> Topics of the day: >>> >>> 1. BOC news >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:33:56 -0700 >>> From: gary shindler >>> Subject: BOC news >>> >>> BLUE OYSTER CULT ANNOUNCE 40TH ANNIVERSARY BOX SET & SPECIAL NYC CONCERT >>> Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will >>> celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue ?yster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the >>> eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged >>> punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia >>> Albums Collection, a ... >>> monumental career-spanning B?C library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official >>> canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening >>> DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set >>> will be available Tuesday, October 30. >>> >>> Blue ?yster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" >>> Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring >>> special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, >>> Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, >>> Au gust 17. Reserved seating is available for the show. >>> >>> A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square >>> Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate B?C experience, >>> each deluxe VIP package includes Blue ?yster Cult - The Columbia Albums >>> Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in >>> the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the B?C Times Square concert; >>> a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue >>> ?yster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of BOC-L Digest - 12 Aug 2012 to 14 Aug 2012 (#2012-101) >>> ************************************************************ From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Thu Aug 16 17:11:48 2012 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:11:48 -0400 Subject: Good piece of History of Prog In-Reply-To: <502D1C0A.2030007@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: http://www.gepr.net/ (or the version that was around in the 90's) was one of the first things I came across. Bought quite a few cds from Ken at The Laser's Edge On 8/16/2012 12:12 PM, Mike Holmes wrote: > http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/prog_spring/features/2012/prog_rock/history_of_prog_the_nice_emerson_lake_palmer_and_other_bands_of_the_1970s_.html From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Fri Aug 17 10:23:41 2012 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:23:41 -0400 Subject: BOC Eric Bloom on Q104 NYC Message-ID: Eric Bloom of Blue Oyster Cult Lots of big news coming up with BOC. Eric tells us what's up. http://www.q1043.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=428240&article=10339527 -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Aug 17 11:55:35 2012 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:55:35 -0500 Subject: OFF: worldcon Message-ID: Hi folks, Anyone going to the Science Fiction Worldcon this year? (other than Rich and myself?) Thx, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Solutions Architecture Consultant University of Chicago/IT Services/ITPD tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Tue Aug 21 04:04:00 2012 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:04:00 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Web Zine Message-ID: Aural Innovations Web Zine I wanted to remind everyone that starting in January of this year I discontinued the periodic "issues" of Aural Innovations in favor of a post-'em-as-we-write-'em format. Reviews are posted regularly and we've also published some articles and interviews including: Space Mirrors review of new In Darkness They Whisper CD and interview with Alisa Coral Baird Hersey profile and interview Terry Brooks profile and interview And just this past week I published a new Tales of the ACTION MAN: House Call. Regular readers will be familiar with Roger Neville-Neil's Action Man stories. This was is a bit different for both Roger and Aural Innovations and as much fun to read as the stories usually are. The web zine is available on the main Aural Innovations page, or you can access it directly at: http://aural-innovations.com/blog/ Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) http://Aural-Innovations.com From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 23 14:56:35 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:56:35 -0400 Subject: BOC 2012 In-Reply-To: <5074579336723066.WA.kirthgersenhotmail.co.uk@listserv.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: You've pretty much nailed it as for our conundrum. OTOH nobody's put a gun to our head and demanded that we do DFTR and School's Out. We like to do those songs because we feel we do them (AS THEY DESERVE to be done;-)). The Brain Surgeons only played DFTR a dozen times then dropped it because it just wasn't coming out right. It's easier said than done not to trade on one's past, just ask Dave Brock. Besides as musicians we are who we are and we like what we like. Some of that is doing experimental things but some of the similarity is due to our physical limitations, things like fast twitch fibers and vocal ranges for example. I have a bunch of demos that are very different from what people expect of me. A ton of sappy ballads, jazzy instrumentals, and techno grooves and maybe some day I'll release my own completely confounding solo record but for now I'm happy trying to find my creativity with the help of my two favorite collaborators. Al On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Ralph wrote: >> For all that Blue Coupe seems like fun for all involved, on stage or front of stage, I'm not sure its designed to produce something new that blows our socks off. > > Can I suggest that anyone who doesn't have/hasn't heard "Tornado on the Tracks" yet pop over to CDBaby check this disk out. It's got some bloody great songs on it and the more people who support this band, the greater the chance they'll continue to attempt to "blow our socks off" in the future. > > For me, Blue Coupe had a confused/confusing genesis - like BDS before them, the outer shell was an Alice/BOC covers band with an inner core of brimming creativity straining to burst out with new material, but constrained by audience expectations - and their own promotional stance of "we're two-thirds BOC, one third ACG" - that they must feel like they're COMPELLED to trot out DFTR and Schools Out etc at the live gigs. > > It's a difficult circle to square - they feel the need to trade on their past to promote their future, but how do they - at the same time - break out from that and show that they're not JUST a bloody covers band...? Calling themselves "Blue Coupe" didn't help... > > What WILL surely help will be the 2nd CD and I can't wait to hear it. Really enjoyed Joe's new solo LP (Tales from the Island) - again, if you haven't heard it yet, check it out!! - and there's also a new X Brothers CD about to raise its head above the digital parapet, so all-in-all, it's a going to be a Bouchard-tastic summer. > > Compare/contrast that with BOC's output... From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 23 15:57:33 2012 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:57:33 -0700 Subject: OFF: Public Service Announcement? In-Reply-To: <885397AF-67E8-42DD-8AA0-9C52B235F755@gmail.com> Message-ID: for any/all starving musicians...Keith H. http://futureofmusic.org/blog/2012/08/22/free-money-youve-already-earned-it-just-fill-out-paperwork From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Aug 24 20:12:05 2012 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:12:05 -0600 Subject: OFF: Public Service Announcement? In-Reply-To: <1345751853.74601.YahooMailNeo@web121601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Keith Henderson wrote: > for any/all starving musicians...Keith H. > > > http://futureofmusic.org/blog/2012/08/22/free-money-youve-already-earned-it-just-fill-out-paperwork Yikes! The Bevis Frond are an unregistered artist! Someone needs to get the word out to Nick Saloman! Double yikes! I just discovered that The Bevis Frond released an album after _Hit Squad_ that I don't have! Where can I get ahold of this? I thought Woronzow Records had folded????? Cheers, Paul. From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Aug 26 06:25:48 2012 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 06:25:48 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com AUGUST 26, 2012: NEW SPACE ROCK RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #290). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #290) Vespero - "ALARM. The Art Of Positive Thinking" (from Subkraut: U-Boats Willkommen Hier) Human Factor - "Objects" (from 4.Hm.F) Sound Of Ground - "Share" (from Sky Colored Green) Farflung - "Tubalcain" (from Farflung/Black Land split LP) Aural Innovations ID (by Gayle Ellett of Djam Karet) Litmus - "Satellites" (from Slaughterbahn) T.H.U.M.B. - "Into The Deepest Green" (from Primordial Echoes For Modern Bigfoots) Beyond-O-Matic - "Wish" (from forthcoming Relations At The Borders Between) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Beyond-O-Matic - "Trying To Find You" (from Time To Get Up) Ax Genrich - "Death Is For Dying" (from Fretboard Jungle) Ax Genrich - "Zaragoza" (from A Trip To Paradise) Chickencage Experience - "The Eternal End" (from An Eggspoiltation Movie) Cosmic Vibrations - "Aurora" (from Psychedelic World Music compilation) Aural Innovations ID (by Stone Premonitions) Thunderbolt Pagoda - "The Reclamation" (from For Lee Jackson in Space compilation) Ade Shaw & Rustic Rod Goodway - "Chakra Blue" (from For Lee Jackson in Space compilation) Sun Ra and his Solar Arkestra - "Rocket Number Nine Take Off For The Planet Venus" (from Interstellar Low Ways) http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 27 10:40:35 2012 From: fofp at STAFFMAIL.ED.AC.UK (Mike Holmes) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:40:35 +0100 Subject: MoonLander Message-ID: Browsing the interwebs I found this, first played by yours truly in 1979 or 1980: http://seb.ly/games/moonlander/ -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From coffeebaker at SBCGLOBAL.NET Thu Aug 30 23:02:13 2012 From: coffeebaker at SBCGLOBAL.NET (Chris Baker) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:02:13 -0700 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Regarding my completely idle conjecture that the upcoming "40th Anniversary" NYC show might see an original-lineup reunion, Albert Bouchard wrote: >>If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to me too Well at least I don?t feel bad about missing the show, then :) Stuff I?d love to find on the box set?s Rarities CD, ?Best of the Broadcasts? CD or the live concert downloads promised ? some of this I?m obviously dreaming about but hey... - SWU material - selections from the Conry?s Bar set-tapes that Albert discussed on the AOL boards years back - Imaginos material - outtakes/demos from Mirrors, Cultosaurus, Fire Live stuff: - I Want You / She?s So Heavy (Biloxi 12/80 or better if it exists) - Soul Kitchen (Chicago 4/75 or better if it exists) - Sea Cruise (AZ 79) - Turn on Your Lovelight (?) UK 75 - Astronomy with Albert vocal - Screams & Mistress of the Salmon Salt (Agora 10/73) - entire, pristine Rooster Tail (Detroit) show of early 73(?) - there were some indications this was professionally recorded - good-quality Nuggets Pizza Parlor cuts that never got wide (?bootleg? EP) release, particularly that assaultive take on Before the Kiss... - pristine "Live in the West" - (early) I Love the Night with full lyric - (early) Teen Archer - Redeemed (was this ever done live?) - Under My Thumb (did I really see this done? or just hear about it and conflated it with It?s Not Easy, which I definitely saw..?) -Chris Baker From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 30 23:22:12 2012 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Altbouch) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:22:12 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I asked Eric and he said that he doesn't know who will be there.He doesn't know who's been asked either and does not sound happy about it. I guess it will be a surprise to him too. Hopefully it will work out fine. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Chris Baker wrote: > Regarding my completely idle conjecture that the upcoming "40th Anniversary" > NYC show might see an original-lineup reunion, Albert Bouchard wrote: > >>> If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to > me too > > Well at least I don?t feel bad about missing the show, then :) > > Stuff I?d love to find on the box set?s Rarities CD, ?Best of the > Broadcasts? CD or the live concert downloads promised ? some of this I?m > obviously dreaming about but hey... > > - SWU material > > - selections from the Conry?s Bar set-tapes that Albert discussed on the AOL > boards years back > > - Imaginos material > > - outtakes/demos from Mirrors, Cultosaurus, Fire > > Live stuff: > > - I Want You / She?s So Heavy (Biloxi 12/80 or better if it exists) > - Soul Kitchen (Chicago 4/75 or better if it exists) > - Sea Cruise (AZ 79) > - Turn on Your Lovelight (?) UK 75 > - Astronomy with Albert vocal > - Screams & Mistress of the Salmon Salt (Agora 10/73) > - entire, pristine Rooster Tail (Detroit) show of early 73(?) - there were > some indications this was professionally recorded > - good-quality Nuggets Pizza Parlor cuts that never got wide (?bootleg? EP) > release, particularly that assaultive take on Before the Kiss... > - pristine "Live in the West" > - (early) I Love the Night with full lyric > - (early) Teen Archer > - Redeemed (was this ever done live?) > - Under My Thumb (did I really see this done? or just hear about it and > conflated it with It?s Not Easy, which I definitely saw..?) > > > -Chris Baker From j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET Fri Aug 31 00:52:55 2012 From: j.hillenburg at COMCAST.NET (Jason C. Hillenburg) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 04:52:55 +0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow, one would think that Eric and, at least, Buck would be kept more in the loop about who's slated to show up at an anniversary gig. That's kind of sad to hear. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Altbouch" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:22:12 PM Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) I asked Eric and he said that he doesn't know who will be there.He doesn't know who's been asked either and does not sound happy about it. I guess it will be a surprise to him too. Hopefully it will work out fine. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Chris Baker wrote: > Regarding my completely idle conjecture that the upcoming "40th Anniversary" > NYC show might see an original-lineup reunion, Albert Bouchard wrote: > >>> If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to > me too > > Well at least I don?t feel bad about missing the show, then :) > > Stuff I?d love to find on the box set?s Rarities CD, ?Best of the > Broadcasts? CD or the live concert downloads promised ? some of this I?m > obviously dreaming about but hey... > > - SWU material > > - selections from the Conry?s Bar set-tapes that Albert discussed on the AOL > boards years back > > - Imaginos material > > - outtakes/demos from Mirrors, Cultosaurus, Fire > > Live stuff: > > - I Want You / She?s So Heavy (Biloxi 12/80 or better if it exists) > - Soul Kitchen (Chicago 4/75 or better if it exists) > - Sea Cruise (AZ 79) > - Turn on Your Lovelight (?) UK 75 > - Astronomy with Albert vocal > - Screams & Mistress of the Salmon Salt (Agora 10/73) > - entire, pristine Rooster Tail (Detroit) show of early 73(?) - there were > some indications this was professionally recorded > - good-quality Nuggets Pizza Parlor cuts that never got wide (?bootleg? EP) > release, particularly that assaultive take on Before the Kiss... > - pristine "Live in the West" > - (early) I Love the Night with full lyric > - (early) Teen Archer > - Redeemed (was this ever done live?) > - Under My Thumb (did I really see this done? or just hear about it and > conflated it with It?s Not Easy, which I definitely saw..?) > > > -Chris Baker From kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK Fri Aug 31 07:17:52 2012 From: kirthgersen at HOTMAIL.CO.UK (Ralph) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:17:52 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) Message-ID: > - SWU material > - selections from the Conry?s Bar set-tapes that Albert discussed on the AOL boards years back You don't have to wait for that - AB's been playing selected tracks from those gigs on his excellent "Origins" show - details here: http://listserv.ispnetinc.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1207B&L=BOC-L&F=&S=&P=17308 Next wfku.org show: Tuesday 09 Sep (7-9pm Eastern) - with a Thurs 27 Sept (9am-11am Eastern) rebroadcast... Also - Joe has now got in on the act and posted a somewhat "enhanced" contribution here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjs0OrSgvn4 Conry's clearly had a massive, appreciative crowd in THAT night... :-) Apropos nuffin: And just in case people haven't seen this - here's SWU's pre-Sneakers song, "All Night Gas-Station" - I'd LOVE to know WHEN this was recorded - when Les joined, he added a dramatic vocal/monologue, so maybe this was BEFORE Les (it'd be great if Albert can fill in any blanks with this one): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiGAMUEQWnU From bernhard.pospiech at UNITYBOX.DE Fri Aug 31 08:46:44 2012 From: bernhard.pospiech at UNITYBOX.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:46:44 +0200 Subject: HW: new email address Message-ID: Hi folks I have changed my email address. The new one is: bernhard.pospiech at unitybox.de Cheers Bernhard From jt_ at COX.NET Fri Aug 31 20:47:34 2012 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:47:34 -0500 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) In-Reply-To: <769438069.1186299.1346388775781.JavaMail.root@sz0074a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: That is SO odd. My guess: Lady Gaga wearing a translucent blue bodysuit and a lucite oyster shell bra. On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:52 PM, "Jason C. Hillenburg" wrote: > Wow, one would think that Eric and, at least, Buck would be kept more in the loop about who's slated > to show up at an anniversary gig. That's kind of sad to hear. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Altbouch" > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:22:12 PM > Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) > > I asked Eric and he said that he doesn't know who will be there.He doesn't know who's been asked either and does not sound happy about it. I guess it will be a surprise to him too. > Hopefully it will work out fine. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Chris Baker wrote: > >> Regarding my completely idle conjecture that the upcoming "40th Anniversary" >> NYC show might see an original-lineup reunion, Albert Bouchard wrote: >> >>>> If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to >> me too >> >> Well at least I don?t feel bad about missing the show, then :) >> >> Stuff I?d love to find on the box set?s Rarities CD, ?Best of the >> Broadcasts? CD or the live concert downloads promised ? some of this I?m >> obviously dreaming about but hey... >> >> - SWU material >> >> - selections from the Conry?s Bar set-tapes that Albert discussed on the AOL >> boards years back >> >> - Imaginos material >> >> - outtakes/demos from Mirrors, Cultosaurus, Fire >> >> Live stuff: >> >> - I Want You / She?s So Heavy (Biloxi 12/80 or better if it exists) >> - Soul Kitchen (Chicago 4/75 or better if it exists) >> - Sea Cruise (AZ 79) >> - Turn on Your Lovelight (?) UK 75 >> - Astronomy with Albert vocal >> - Screams & Mistress of the Salmon Salt (Agora 10/73) >> - entire, pristine Rooster Tail (Detroit) show of early 73(?) - there were >> some indications this was professionally recorded >> - good-quality Nuggets Pizza Parlor cuts that never got wide (?bootleg? EP) >> release, particularly that assaultive take on Before the Kiss... >> - pristine "Live in the West" >> - (early) I Love the Night with full lyric >> - (early) Teen Archer >> - Redeemed (was this ever done live?) >> - Under My Thumb (did I really see this done? or just hear about it and >> conflated it with It?s Not Easy, which I definitely saw..?) >> >> >> -Chris Baker From jt_ at COX.NET Fri Aug 31 20:52:28 2012 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:52:28 -0500 Subject: BOC cult bros Re: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) In-Reply-To: <0B31073D-C90F-4E63-94F5-9F32DEF8F3B4@cox.net> Message-ID: Totally random subject change .. Looking forward to trying Joe's new solo album from cdbaby. Hmm. He did all the instruments, including drums. Interesting. If only he had a famous family member who was incredible on the drums who could pitch in. Oh, wait. On Aug 31, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Jeff Thompson wrote: > That is SO odd. > > My guess: Lady Gaga wearing a translucent blue bodysuit and a lucite oyster shell bra. > > > > On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:52 PM, "Jason C. Hillenburg" wrote: > >> Wow, one would think that Eric and, at least, Buck would be kept more in the loop about who's slated >> to show up at an anniversary gig. That's kind of sad to hear. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Altbouch" >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:22:12 PM >> Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 16 Aug 2012 to 17 Aug 2012 (#2012-104) >> >> I asked Eric and he said that he doesn't know who will be there.He doesn't know who's been asked either and does not sound happy about it. I guess it will be a surprise to him too. >> Hopefully it will work out fine. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Chris Baker wrote: >> >>> Regarding my completely idle conjecture that the upcoming "40th Anniversary" >>> NYC show might see an original-lineup reunion, Albert Bouchard wrote: >>> >>>>> If they are planning on anything like that they are keeping it a "surprise" to >>> me too >>> >>> Well at least I don?t feel bad about missing the show, then :) >>> >>> Stuff I?d love to find on the box set?s Rarities CD, ?Best of the >>> Broadcasts? CD or the live concert downloads promised ? some of this I?m >>> obviously dreaming about but hey... >>> >>> - SWU material >>> >>> - selections from the Conry?s Bar set-tapes that Albert discussed on the AOL >>> boards years back >>> >>> - Imaginos material >>> >>> - outtakes/demos from Mirrors, Cultosaurus, Fire >>> >>> Live stuff: >>> >>> - I Want You / She?s So Heavy (Biloxi 12/80 or better if it exists) >>> - Soul Kitchen (Chicago 4/75 or better if it exists) >>> - Sea Cruise (AZ 79) >>> - Turn on Your Lovelight (?) UK 75 >>> - Astronomy with Albert vocal >>> - Screams & Mistress of the Salmon Salt (Agora 10/73) >>> - entire, pristine Rooster Tail (Detroit) show of early 73(?) - there were >>> some indications this was professionally recorded >>> - good-quality Nuggets Pizza Parlor cuts that never got wide (?bootleg? EP) >>> release, particularly that assaultive take on Before the Kiss... >>> - pristine "Live in the West" >>> - (early) I Love the Night with full lyric >>> - (early) Teen Archer >>> - Redeemed (was this ever done live?) >>> - Under My Thumb (did I really see this done? or just hear about it and >>> conflated it with It?s Not Easy, which I definitely saw..?) >>> >>> >>> -Chris Baker