From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Sep 3 08:14:16 2010 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 12:14:16 +0000 Subject: extremely high quality slide show of OEB performance on the Isle of Wight ( and other bands as well ) Message-ID: These are some the highest quality shots I have seen yet: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mychoonz/with/4950019302/ cheers! Mike From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 3 12:54:44 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:54:44 -0700 Subject: Interview with Dave Brock Message-ID: http://www.antimusic.com/morley/10/hawkwind.shtml From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Sep 4 09:01:55 2010 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 13:01:55 +0000 Subject: OEBs Hawkfest setlist: Isle if Wight 8/28/10 Message-ID: One Eyed Bishops: Hawkfest 2010 setlist: Isle of Wight 8/28/10 Hymie The Winey Smokestack Lightning The Great White Buffalo ( I'm not your ) Stepping Stone Spinning Wheel Blues Ejection Shorty George>Matchbox> Shorty George, Hurry On Sundown Mike Burro : guitar vocals Phil Smith: electric lead guitars Ant : Saxophone Jeff Berry: Bass Tony McMillan : drums From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Sep 4 12:43:12 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:43:12 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Does Not Care Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com SEPTEMBER 4, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW I've uploaded a new show from Space Does Not Care (show #27). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Space Does Not Care (show #27) Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Owen O'Neill wrote: > http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-13268-10.html That is pretty apposite when viewed through the HW lens innit? I'll see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html Also, you may notice that after some repeated problems with my normal address I'm now posting from a different one. Please don't address-book this address, it's not filtered. Thanks, and sorry if I missed anything good while inadvertantly signed off, yours, Jon ObCD: Scottish National Orchestra under Neeme J?rvi - _Prokofiev: Lieutenant Kij? - Suite rom 'The Stone Flower' - Autumnal - Andante (Op. 50bis) - Dreams_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 5 22:13:25 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Illumisnotty B) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:13:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow being a migrainer back then must have been almost as bad the modern era where opiates (or anything good) are so tightly contolled- however, little much for a fashion statement (on these) if you ask me, without a role model.... http://www.viewzone.com/peruskull.html On 9/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-13268-10.html >> > > That is pretty apposite when viewed through the HW lens innit? I'll > see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation: > > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html > > Also, you may notice that after some repeated problems with my normal > address I'm now posting from a different one. Please don't address-book this > address, it's not filtered. Thanks, and sorry if I missed anything good > while inadvertantly signed off, yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Scottish National Orchestra under Neeme J?rvi - _Prokofiev: > Lieutenant Kij? - Suite rom 'The Stone Flower' - Autumnal - Andante (Op. > 50bis) - Dreams_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 5 23:19:01 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:19:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > (polite trim) > I'll see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation: > > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html > (another polite trim) Dear Jon, thanks for teaching me 2 new words, I hope I can remember them, and I am curious- are the TOOLS the new thing? which I am guessing they are, because the surgery on the skulls is AAAAAAANcient news!~!! just checking!! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 5 23:33:05 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:33:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I sorry, I call BS of some kind of the author of this article- I have known of ancient skulls haviing SURGICAL HOLES (not rectangle) pointing to SURGERY on them since my voice was still squeaky, and I am now 45 Let me at him!!!!! I HATE the scientific community!!! RERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR On 9/5/10, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 9/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> >> (polite trim) >> I'll see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation: >> >> >> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html >> (another polite trim) > > > Dear Jon, thanks for teaching me 2 new words, I hope I can remember them, > and I am curious- are the TOOLS the new thing? which I am guessing they are, > because the surgery on the skulls is AAAAAAANcient news!~!! > just checking!! > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 6 01:48:45 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:48:45 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: wearing dunce cap apology Jon it's the rectangles that are alleged to be more sophisticated. I still hate the scientific community, especially the likes of the one used by American public televison who thinks the use of British accents is imperative..... On 9/5/10, mike coleman wrote: > > I sorry, I call BS of some kind of the author of this article- > I have known of ancient skulls haviing SURGICAL HOLES (not > rectangle) pointing to SURGERY on them since my voice was still squeaky, and > I am now 45 > Let me at him!!!!! > I HATE the scientific community!!! > RERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR > > On 9/5/10, mike coleman wrote: >> >> >> On 9/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>> >>> (polite trim) >>> I'll see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation: >>> >>> >>> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html >>> (another polite trim) >> >> >> Dear Jon, thanks for teaching me 2 new words, I hope I can remember them, >> and I am curious- are the TOOLS the new thing? which I am guessing they are, >> because the surgery on the skulls is AAAAAAANcient news!~!! >> just checking!! >> >> >> > > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Sep 6 08:22:33 2010 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:22:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sep 6, 2010, at 1:48 AM, mike coleman wrote: > I still hate the scientific community, especially the likes of the one used > by American public televison who thinks the use of British accents is > imperative..... To be fair, that is because lots of the programming is imported from Britain, on account of the USA not exactly being voluminous in the production of non-true crime related scientific factual programmes. :-) As a transplanted Brit, I have to admit to it being jarring watching what, to me, is _Horizon_ (called _NOVA_ over here), yet hearing the narration in an American accent. So, I guess the accent imperative is not universal, yet. You have to admit Alan Alda has a terrible British accent in _Scientific American Frontiers_, not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson's in _NOVA ScienceNOW_. They mustn't have received the memo, yet... :-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Genesis, "Supper's Ready" From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 6 08:52:23 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 07:52:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/6/10, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Sep 6, 2010, at 1:48 AM, mike coleman wrote: > > > I still hate the scientific community, especially the likes of the one > used > > by American public televison who thinks the use of British accents is > > imperative..... > > To be fair, that is because lots of the programming is imported from > Britain, on account of the USA not exactly being voluminous in the production of non-true crime related scientific factual > programmes. :-) hehehe yes yes help me destroy america as it is now known...this reason, that reason,,,,i > As a transplanted Brit, I have to admit to it being jarring watching what, > to me, is _Horizon_ (called _NOVA_ over here), yet hearing the narration in > an American accent. So, I guess the accent imperative is not universal, > yet. I won't go where UFO's seldom go (if ever, anymore?).....glad to have another reason not to watch it You have to admit Alan Alda has a terrible British accent in _Scientific > American Frontiers_, not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson's in _NOVA > ScienceNOW_. They mustn't have received the memo, yet... :-) Yes I allowed myself to hear him in some show about competing young engineers racing lightweight peddle boat-submarines....I can't BELIEVE I stayed on the channel,.,,,,his voice makes me want to attack Cheers, INDEDED.....hehehe thanks!!! sincerely,,,,,!!!! > > Paul. > > NP: Genesis, "Supper's Ready" > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Sep 6 09:17:23 2010 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:17:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sep 6, 2010, at 8:52 AM, mike coleman wrote: > On 9/6/10, Paul Mather wrote: >> As a transplanted Brit, I have to admit to it being jarring watching what, >> to me, is _Horizon_ (called _NOVA_ over here), yet hearing the narration in >> an American accent. So, I guess the accent imperative is not universal, >> yet. > > > I won't go where UFO's seldom go (if ever, anymore?).....glad to have > another reason not to watch it I have to admit that I am generally disappointed with both NOVA and Horizon these days, mainly because the contemporary shows are dumbed down a lot from those made in halcyon years gone by. :-( > You have to admit Alan Alda has a terrible British accent in _Scientific >> American Frontiers_, not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson's in _NOVA >> ScienceNOW_. They mustn't have received the memo, yet... :-) > > > Yes I allowed myself to hear him in some show about competing young > engineers racing lightweight peddle boat-submarines....I can't BELIEVE I > stayed on the channel,.,,,,his voice makes me want to attack In a weird synchronicity, one of the teams of "young engineers" in that show was one from here at Virginia Tech! They happened to have a booth at the start of year street party shindig they have here and I happened to mention the show appearance to one of the people manning the booth---on account of my having seen the programme just days before---only to be met by blank stares. It was then that I realised one of the big shortcomings of _Scientific American Frontiers_: the series is years old (not good for a science frontiers show), and that episode was probably made long before any of these folks ever came to Tech. Still, we'll have to agree to disagree on Alan Alda in the programme. I love the enthusiastic gusto with which he throws himself into the episodes; it's rather refreshing. Plus, don't the treason laws on the books have some section about it being considered sedition to openly dislike anything with Hawkeye Pierce in it? ;-) Toodle-pip old chum, Paul. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 6 09:47:43 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:47:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: <2859770E-DE44-48CD-A9C0-9D94918054E7@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: Paul......so I see "nature" disclosed it was the Alan Alda show that I watched and I have always HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATED MASH, and iI just cannot stand his accent being a Texan.......but I will give you this (and yes I am aware that 9 out of 10 cornfed americans LOVE MASH), that he did ok on that show.......he's a good man for sure....just gets on my nerves as does allowing the televison to be on much does inately.....don't care (much) what human beings think, do and spew......please stop them reproducing to a much lower degree.... I am pleased that you know what I mean about the ghost of Nova/Horizons "past", and that my assumption still holds water, because I have not tuned Nova in since long before hair started showing up in the "bad" places..... So Paul did you happen to see whatever show it was on the lightweight plane desings that base themselves on insect-wing propulsion?? (and birds) That one was kinda fun......and I remembered having a flapping bird-plane in the (late) 60's!!! and apperently the man who has the best design on that won't allow it in the market...yet Buts seriously, Jon taught me new words and this taught me things I needed to know, and I am grateful, and also honest- I cannot figure out what you were saying in the explanation of americans using shows with British accents- It seemed like you were "taking the piss", but to my 11-grade drop-out, weathered by drug use, aging mind, it confuses me!!!! still trying to solve it......in fairness to me I just woke up.....unfortunately..... Superb that you saw the same show I did...mental note it is outdated outdated also. I take it as given that we (americans) generally LOVE British accents, it just gets annoying when I feel like a decison has been made that I will more readily accept what I am being brainwashed with if it is British!!! On 9/6/10, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Sep 6, 2010, at 8:52 AM, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 9/6/10, Paul Mather wrote: > >> As a transplanted Brit, I have to admit to it being jarring watching > what, > >> to me, is _Horizon_ (called _NOVA_ over here), yet hearing the narration > in > >> an American accent. So, I guess the accent imperative is not universal, > >> yet. > > > > > > I won't go where UFO's seldom go (if ever, anymore?).....glad to have > > another reason not to watch it > > I have to admit that I am generally disappointed with both NOVA and Horizon > these days, mainly because the contemporary shows are dumbed down a lot from > those made in halcyon years gone by. :-( > > > You have to admit Alan Alda has a terrible British accent in _Scientific > >> American Frontiers_, not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson's in _NOVA > >> ScienceNOW_. They mustn't have received the memo, yet... :-) > > > > > > Yes I allowed myself to hear him in some show about competing young > > engineers racing lightweight peddle boat-submarines....I can't BELIEVE I > > stayed on the channel,.,,,,his voice makes me want to attack > > In a weird synchronicity, one of the teams of "young engineers" in that > show was one from here at Virginia Tech! They happened to have a booth at > the start of year street party shindig they have here and I happened to > mention the show appearance to one of the people manning the booth---on > account of my having seen the programme just days before---only to be met by > blank stares. It was then that I realised one of the big shortcomings of > _Scientific American Frontiers_: the series is years old (not good for a > science frontiers show), and that episode was probably made long before any > of these folks ever came to Tech. > > Still, we'll have to agree to disagree on Alan Alda in the programme. I > love the enthusiastic gusto with which he throws himself into the episodes; > it's rather refreshing. Plus, don't the treason laws on the books have some > section about it being considered sedition to openly dislike anything with > Hawkeye Pierce in it? ;-) > > Toodle-pip old chum, > > Paul. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 6 11:57:28 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:57:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: <2859770E-DE44-48CD-A9C0-9D94918054E7@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 06 Sep 2010, at 08:17 , Paul Mather wrote: > I have to admit that I am generally disappointed with both NOVA and Horizon these days, mainly because the contemporary shows are dumbed down a lot from those made in halcyon years gone by. :-( Oh, OK, it's not just me thinking that, then .... :P Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 6 12:15:22 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:15:22 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just a friendly reminder- I don't consider music fans on this forum "the general" public, and my heaps of negative energy could be much more readily understood when living on my block I am honored beyond words to be here with so many of you fellow "wise heads", in all of the interpretations that can mean and I still have the dunce cap on......I'm fair wonder if Trev has recovered from Krankshaft headling the fest?? On 9/6/10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 06 Sep 2010, at 08:17 , Paul Mather wrote: > > I have to admit that I am generally disappointed with both NOVA and > Horizon these days, mainly because the contemporary shows are dumbed down a > lot from those made in halcyon years gone by. :-( > > Oh, OK, it's not just me thinking that, then .... :P > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 6 18:52:40 2010 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (Elipxr5) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:52:40 -0400 Subject: Fwd: [Hawkwind] Re: [Spam] Re: 2nd hand Space Rock, progressive,fusion and Canterbury CDs for sale (new list) In-Reply-To: <8CD0AE29824EEAB-414-7E73@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi. Here's a list of some Canterbury, Progressive Rock, fusion and Space Rock CD's from my collection that I'm parting with. There are some cool rare Monster Magnet CDs added to the space rock list. All CDs are in very good to excellent condition. 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Name: not available URL: From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Sep 8 09:57:05 2010 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:57:05 -0400 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: <201009081331.o88DV2sV003108@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:31 AM, M Holmes wrote: > Looks like I don't have the only copy of the Brian Matthews Show with > Silver Machine and Brainstorm after all. I am indebted to Mr Coleman for > alerting me to Ebay Item 270627294078 So is the "A Presented Show" side of the LP the side that includes "Silver Machine" and the other side of the LP ("No Presentation") the one that includes "Brainstorm" (and the Paul McCartney interview)? Is this the only Hawkwind material on the LP? Is it stereo or mono? Cheers, Paul. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 8 11:48:15 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:48:15 -0500 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: <201009081331.o88DV2sV003108@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'd word this slightly different, I'd say - "Looks like that (expletive-slang-4-crazy-eBay-seller) doesn't have the only copy of 406 after all" I'd be tempted to send him a label-pic with just the note "mine's mint". On 9/8/10, M Holmes wrote: > > Looks like I don't have the only copy of the Brian Matthews Show with > Silver Machine and Brainstorm after all. I am indebted to Mr Coleman for > alerting me to Ebay Item 270627294078 > > Interesting price though. I bet a Beatles/Wings fan paid that. > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 8 13:46:33 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:46:33 -0500 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: <70CD1685-C72B-4679-A5EB-614A5D368B80@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 9/8/10, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:31 AM, M Holmes wrote: > > So is the "A Presented Show" side of the LP the side that includes "Silver > Machine" and the other side of the LP ("No Presentation") the one that > includes "Brainstorm" (and the Paul McCartney interview)? Is this the only > Hawkwind material on the LP? Is it stereo or mono? > Cheers, > Paul. > Maybe Mike got busy at the desk, but I'd hazzard a guess that you are correct on all accounts but I know you defintely are about it being mono- While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey of "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,,this item gets my special attention because in my opinion if there is such a thing as "hitting the jackpot" this is it.... Despite the recent CD release likely knocking the value back down a tad in the HW circles, I'd say going on the pulse of the economical situatiuon and the way people are not spending, I'd put the actual value at $2000.00+ USA....... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 8 14:01:10 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:01:10 -0500 Subject: take me to your captain Message-ID: RIZZ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 8 20:56:12 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:56:12 -0400 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey of "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", How true, but sometimes, insanity's fun. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:47 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted On 9/8/10, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:31 AM, M Holmes wrote: > > So is the "A Presented Show" side of the LP the side that includes > "Silver Machine" and the other side of the LP ("No Presentation") the > one that includes "Brainstorm" (and the Paul McCartney interview)? Is > this the only Hawkwind material on the LP? Is it stereo or mono? > Cheers, > Paul. > Maybe Mike got busy at the desk, but I'd hazzard a guess that you are correct on all accounts but I know you defintely are about it being mono- While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey of "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,,this item gets my special attention because in my opinion if there is such a thing as "hitting the jackpot" this is it.... Despite the recent CD release likely knocking the value back down a tad in the HW circles, I'd say going on the pulse of the economical situatiuon and the way people are not spending, I'd put the actual value at $2000.00+ USA....... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 8 21:06:19 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:06:19 -0500 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: <2BB45851F4A64EBCB634C707563E9246@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey > of > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", How > true, but sometimes, insanity's fun. > Mary and a wifestyle got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun without it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW when I only have 2?? From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Sep 9 04:23:49 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 04:23:49 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Astral Visions Radio Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com SEPTEMBER 9, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW I've uploaded a new show from Astral Visions Radio (show #7). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Astral Visions Radio (show #7) Astral Visions Radio Show - Music from Psychotropic Zone, is hosted by DJ Astro Dungen - "Brallor" (from Skit I Allt) Sabbath Assembly - "Judge of Mankind" (from Hymn of the Consecration) Mugstar - "Paradox" (from In Search of Hawkwind) Electric Moon - "Gefaehrliche Planetengirls" (from Lunatics) The Re-Stoned - "Bells" (from Revealed Gravitation) The Kings of Frog Island - "Glebe Street Whores" (from III) Serpentina Satelite - " Sangre de Grado " (from Mecanica Celeste) Sun Dial - "Storm Coming" (from Promo EP) Aron - "Six Brides of the Forest" (from Testament from the Human Plantation) Psi Corps - "Valley of Garnath - The Battle" (from All Roads Lead to Amber) K-X-P - "Labirynth" (from S/T) Cranium Pie - "Mothership" (from Rememberrr/Mothership 7") Harvey Bainbridge - "Fatima's Hand" (from Dreams, Omens & Strange Encounters) The Higher Craft - "Inner Realm" (from Oracle XIV - Gateway EP) Hypnos 69 - "An Aerial Architect" (from Legacy) My Brother The Wind - "Electric Universe" (from In The Crystal Cabinet) http://Aural-Innovations.com From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 9 05:19:07 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:19:07 +0100 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Mike, You mean you don't have - the limited edition 9 x 7" singles box set release of the album with one track per side - the limited edition ship shaped usb stick - limited edition HW logo shaped usb stick - limited edition Ipod edition with all HW tracks included. - limited edition double LP picture discs - limited edition LP in all the colours of the rainbow (one of each colour plus a multi coloured one) - audio DVD edition Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure Porcupine Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one reason I gave up collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!). Hope I have not put marketing thoughts in anyone's mind though. Steve On 9 September 2010 02:06, mike coleman wrote: > On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > > > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey > > of > > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", How > > true, but sometimes, insanity's fun. > > Mary > > > > > and a wifestyle > got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun without > it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW when I > only have 2?? > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 9 05:54:13 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 04:54:13 -0500 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh even Dave won't get that kind of blood out of an anti-technological-turnip!!! and geting old has it's perks doesn't it!! in some cases getting poorer can also mean wiser!!! but I really think Mary should do something about Yellow Hedgerow , we just spoke.....and I was correct..... and Yes at last look Wilson appeared fearsomely dangerous in his marketing stragtegies... hehehe, good read at near 5 am!! I wonder if the original "Radioactive Toy" "radio promo" is worth much now.......still have (1of) that.... On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: > > Hey Mike, > > You mean you don't have > > - the limited edition 9 x 7" singles box set release of the album with > one track per side > - the limited edition ship shaped usb stick > - limited edition HW logo shaped usb stick > - limited edition Ipod edition with all HW tracks included. > - limited edition double LP picture discs > - limited edition LP in all the colours of the rainbow (one of each > colour plus a multi coloured one) > - audio DVD edition > > > Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure Porcupine > Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one reason I gave up > collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!). > > Hope I have not put marketing thoughts in anyone's mind though. > > Steve > > > On 9 September 2010 02:06, mike coleman wrote: > > > > On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > > > > > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding > journey > > > of > > > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", How > > > true, but sometimes, insanity's fun. > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > and a wifestyle > > got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun without > > it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW when > I > > only have 2?? > > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 9 06:31:44 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:31:44 +0100 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's still the only place to get that version of Radioactive Toy (not released elsewhere in this edit as far as I am aware) plus the other tracks do have minor timing differences. I don't have my copy any more but think you would get a decent price on e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD). Steve On 9 September 2010 10:54, mike coleman wrote: > Oh even Dave won't get that kind of blood out of an > anti-technological-turnip!!! > and geting old has it's perks doesn't it!! in some cases getting poorer > can > also mean wiser!!! > but I really think Mary should do something about Yellow Hedgerow , we just > spoke.....and I was correct..... > and Yes at last look Wilson appeared fearsomely dangerous in his marketing > stragtegies... > hehehe, good read at near 5 am!! > I wonder if the original "Radioactive Toy" "radio promo" is worth much > now.......still have (1of) that.... > > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: > > > > Hey Mike, > > > > You mean you don't have > > > > - the limited edition 9 x 7" singles box set release of the album with > > one track per side > > - the limited edition ship shaped usb stick > > - limited edition HW logo shaped usb stick > > - limited edition Ipod edition with all HW tracks included. > > - limited edition double LP picture discs > > - limited edition LP in all the colours of the rainbow (one of each > > colour plus a multi coloured one) > > - audio DVD edition > > > > > > Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure > Porcupine > > Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one reason I gave up > > collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!). > > > > Hope I have not put marketing thoughts in anyone's mind though. > > > > Steve > > > > > > On 9 September 2010 02:06, mike coleman wrote: > > > > > > > On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > > > > > > > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding > > journey > > > > of > > > > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", > How > > > > true, but sometimes, insanity's fun. > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a wifestyle > > > got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun > without > > > it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW > when > > I > > > only have 2?? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 9 10:32:10 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:32:10 +0100 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:57:05 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 9 13:00:32 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:00:32 -0400 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I need your copy of Yellow Hedgerow , that will solve everything. (ha, ha) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:54 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted Oh even Dave won't get that kind of blood out of an anti-technological-turnip!!! and geting old has it's perks doesn't it!! in some cases getting poorer can also mean wiser!!! but I really think Mary should do something about Yellow Hedgerow , we just spoke.....and I was correct..... and Yes at last look Wilson appeared fearsomely dangerous in his marketing stragtegies... hehehe, good read at near 5 am!! I wonder if the original "Radioactive Toy" "radio promo" is worth much now.......still have (1of) that.... On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: > > Hey Mike, > > You mean you don't have > > - the limited edition 9 x 7" singles box set release of the album with > one track per side > - the limited edition ship shaped usb stick > - limited edition HW logo shaped usb stick > - limited edition Ipod edition with all HW tracks included. > - limited edition double LP picture discs > - limited edition LP in all the colours of the rainbow (one of each > colour plus a multi coloured one) > - audio DVD edition > > > Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure > Porcupine Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one > reason I gave up collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!). > > Hope I have not put marketing thoughts in anyone's mind though. > > Steve > > > On 9 September 2010 02:06, mike coleman wrote: > > > > On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > > > > > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding > journey > > > of > > > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the > > > nut-house,,,,,,", How true, but sometimes, insanity's fun. > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > and a wifestyle > > got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun > > without it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the > > new HW when > I > > only have 2?? > > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 10 09:42:57 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:42:57 +0100 Subject: A new project for the List? Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 12:29:40 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:29:40 -0700 Subject: BOC in KS Message-ID: List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent shows? ?? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 12:37:53 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:37:53 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <673895.73886.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > List activity is pretty dead I always worry if this is how they punish me > but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > shows? Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,, hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!! From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 12:41:18 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:41:18 -0700 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better than their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy Sarzo could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he was in. ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM Subject: Re: BOC in KS On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > List activity is pretty dead I always worry if this is how they punish me >? but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > shows? Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,, hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 12:46:42 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:46:42 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <94867.95116.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I wish I wasn't afraid to go out I wish I had money to go out I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat on his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system.... Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care...... On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better > than > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy > Sarzo > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he > was in. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > List activity is pretty dead > > I always worry if this is how they punish me > > > > but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > shows? > > > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,, > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!! > > > > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 12:51:34 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:51:34 -0700 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: UFO would have been great, with Schenker? I'm always late to the party (born too late) ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM Subject: Re: BOC in KS I wish I wasn't afraid to go out I wish I had money to go out I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat on his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system.... Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care...... On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better > than > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy > Sarzo > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he > was in. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > List activity is pretty dead > > I always worry if this is how they punish me > > > >? but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > shows? > > > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,, > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!! > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 12:55:25 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:55:25 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <997437.20715.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes it was the Walk On Water tour with Shenker But the PA system was SOOOO bad Phil could not be heard.......so it was awkward for the band I'm extrmely loud when drunk, happy, and on a mission On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > UFO would have been great, with Schenker? > I'm always late to the party (born too late) > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > I wish I wasn't afraid to go out > I wish I had money to go out > I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with > I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat > on > his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to > save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system.... > Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care...... > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better > > than > > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy > > Sarzo > > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he > > was in. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mike coleman > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM > > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > List activity is pretty dead > > > > I always worry if this is how they punish me > > > > > > > but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > > shows? > > > > > > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,, > > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 13:06:49 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:06:49 -0700 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I went to a Sebadoh show in Deep Ellum and I think they wanted to kill the sound guy. The song they started and stopped and started at least two times had a backing track. Never wanted to go there again, I selfishly hope their Concrete Blonde show was subpar.? ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:55:25 AM Subject: Re: BOC in KS Yes it was the Walk On Water tour with Shenker But the PA system was SOOOO bad Phil could not be heard.......so it was awkward for the band I'm extrmely loud when drunk, happy, and on a mission On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > UFO would have been great, with Schenker? > I'm always late to the party (born too late) > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > I wish I wasn't afraid to go out > I wish I had money to go out > I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with > I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat > on > his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to > save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system.... > Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care...... > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better > > than > > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy > > Sarzo > > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he > > was in. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mike coleman > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM > > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > List activity is pretty dead > > > > I always worry if this is how they punish me > > > > > > >? but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > > shows? > > > > > > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,, > > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 13:46:47 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:46:47 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <358718.81201.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ah Deep Ellum I actually know the guy basically responsible for (re)starting the whole scene- and he ran a club called Trees when Nik blew into town in 94.... I cracked up when he tried to steal my friend's Monster Magnet CD at one of their shows (he did not know it was me or my friend)(I HOPE!!), when we were at bar and bathroom, but I had forwarned my friend to take the CD case only (autographs seemed cool at that moment)........so he got a CD case..... I don't know much about what's happening there now but it was a pretty good music scene for a while....and the whole downtown district there was turned into lots of clubs and bands and parties... Incidentally that guy, Jeff Lyles is (was?) also known for his own band "Decadent Dub Team", and others.... On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > I went to a Sebadoh show in Deep Ellum and I think they wanted to kill the > sound > guy. The song they started and stopped and started at least two times had a > backing track. Never wanted to go there again, I selfishly hope their > Concrete > Blonde show was subpar. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:55:25 AM > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > Yes it was the Walk On Water tour with Shenker > But the PA system was SOOOO bad Phil could not be heard.......so it was > awkward for the band > I'm extrmely loud when drunk, happy, and on a mission > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > UFO would have been great, with Schenker? > > I'm always late to the party (born too late) > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mike coleman > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM > > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > > > I wish I wasn't afraid to go out > > I wish I had money to go out > > I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with > > I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat > > on > > his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to > > save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system.... > > Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care...... > > > > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way > better > > > than > > > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with > Rudy > > > Sarzo > > > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands > he > > > was in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: mike coleman > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM > > > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > > > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > > > List activity is pretty dead > > > > > > I always worry if this is how they punish me > > > > > > > > > > but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > > > shows? > > > > > > > > > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,, > > > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 16:08:55 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:08:55 -0700 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think this was Deep Ellum live. After the Sebadoh debacle I didn't want to go to another show there. I found Nik's live album from the American tour (Austin show part of it I think) for like a dollar recently. ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 12:46:47 PM Subject: Re: BOC in KS ah Deep Ellum I actually know the guy basically responsible for (re)starting the whole scene- and he ran a club called Trees when Nik blew into town in 94.... I cracked up when he tried to steal my friend's Monster Magnet CD at one of their shows (he did not know it was me or my friend)(I HOPE!!), when we were at bar and bathroom,? but I had forwarned my friend to take the CD case only (autographs seemed cool at that moment)........so he got a CD case..... I don't know much about what's happening there now but it was a pretty good music scene for a while....and the whole downtown district there was turned into lots of clubs and bands and parties... Incidentally that guy, Jeff Lyles is (was?) also known for his own band "Decadent Dub Team", and others.... On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > I went to a Sebadoh show in Deep Ellum and I think they wanted to kill the > sound > guy. The song they started and stopped and started at least two times had a > backing track. Never wanted to go there again, I selfishly hope their > Concrete > Blonde show was subpar. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:55:25 AM > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > Yes it was the Walk On Water tour with Shenker > But the PA system was SOOOO bad Phil could not be heard.......so it was > awkward for the band > I'm extrmely loud when drunk, happy, and on a mission > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > UFO would have been great, with Schenker? > > I'm always late to the party (born too late) > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mike coleman > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM > > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > > > I wish I wasn't afraid to go out > > I wish I had money to go out > > I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with > > I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat > > on > > his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to > > save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system.... > > Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care...... > > > > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way > better > > > than > > > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with > Rudy > > > Sarzo > > > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands > he > > > was in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: mike coleman > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM > > > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > > > > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > > > List activity is pretty dead > > > > > > I always worry if this is how they punish me > > > > > > > > > >? but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > > > shows? > > > > > > > > > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,, > > > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Fri Sep 10 18:55:16 2010 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:55:16 -0600 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <94867.95116.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >>>Seeing them with Rudy Sarzo could be interesting, he was a better bass >>>player than the hair bands he was in. Rudy is surprisingly good with BOC. Not only does he play the songs really well but he adds a lot of energy to the show. He's a dang nice guy too. Who knew? Brad in Utah From redcap at CHARTER.NET Fri Sep 10 19:14:06 2010 From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:14:06 -0700 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <673895.73886.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... ---- gary shindler wrote: > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent shows? ?? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 20:00:03 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:00:03 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <180329.48519.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9/10/10, gary shindler wrote: > > I think this was Deep Ellum live. After the Sebadoh debacle I didn't want > to go > to another show there. > > I found Nik's live album from the American tour (Austin show part of it I > think) > for like a dollar recently. > Ah the Austin gig.....memories.....if Nik is a.iittle off it's my fault........got him him there late...... sorry for waxing Jeff Liles, but he goes back to my childhood, and you made me realise his band Wizard at the local rec center was my first gig ever......He was a couple years older and about the most driven person I have ever met in the local scene, and I kinda wish we'd not had some tense moments back when people were stealing silver and guitars and evil was rampant in the 70's....I always liked him and I see he has a name to this day and has been somewhat successful aside of his local booking and writing, etc.... From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Sep 10 20:06:30 2010 From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:06:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Illumisnotty B wrote: > Wow being a migrainer back then must have been almost as bad the modern era > where opiates (or anything good) are so tightly contolled- > however, little much for a fashion statement (on these) if you ask me, > without a role model.... > http://www.viewzone.com/peruskull.html I have no idea what to make of those but I now find I want to liten to `Pinhead' by the Ramones. As to the skull surgery I posted, though, yes, the oddity is supposed to be the rectangular gaps--means a different kind of tool, cutting not drilling. Yours, Jon ObCD: Flaming Groovies - _Teenage Head_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 20:25:08 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:25:08 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/10/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Illumisnotty B wrote: > > Wow being a migrainer back then must have been almost as bad the modern era >> where opiates (or anything good) are so tightly contolled- >> however, little much for a fashion statement (on these) if you ask me, >> without a role model.... >> http://www.viewzone.com/peruskull.html >> > > I have no idea what to make of those but I now find I want to liten > to `Pinhead' by the Ramones. As to the skull surgery I posted, though, yes, > the oddity is supposed to be the rectangular gaps--means a different kind of > tool, cutting not drilling. Yours, But wouldn't DRILLING be a more advanced tool?? : m). especially if it goes back as it does?? nevermeind what they did once they got the hole open.......hehehehe and it still seemed to my 11th grade dropout mind that the person making this discovery could have alluded to all the other skulls in other countries like France but I fully cop to possibly being a "space case" in this instance and maybe only that region was called for with the Bronze period, etc.....but nevermind that!!! Jon are you there because I want to defend myself regarding that PRIVATE conversation we are having!!!! wait wait....don't go back through the portal........I don't spend much time there either!!!! takes me about 1 min!!! HAHAHAHA From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 20:58:33 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:58:33 -0500 Subject: A new project for the List? In-Reply-To: <201009101342.o8ADgv5D004393@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Deal me in I gave my deck to the neighbor kid and would love to have a HW pack.... great idea I'll cough up the cash at such time On 9/10/10, M Holmes wrote: > > We had an idea at Hawkfest. > > Lucy recently used a website to produce a pack of playing cards based on > her family. It's kinda like the Iraq Playing cards - each one has a > picture on it. > > Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based on the > Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an agreed set of > 54 pictures and upload them to the website. After that, anyone who wants > them just buys them from the web company (I think they were about a > tenner each). I'll have to get the website URL from Lucy. Possibly the > website could be prevailed upon to make a donation to the band for each > set sold. > > We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so as to prevent > any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might volunteer their good > piccies. > > So, suggestions: > > Ace of Spades : Has to be Lemmy > Joker : Nik? > Queen of Hearts : Stacia? > > I guess the rankings ought to reflect time in the band. > > Over to you folks... > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 11 03:43:50 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:43:50 +0100 Subject: A new project for the List? In-Reply-To: <201009101342.o8ADgv5D004393@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Good idea. I have no objection to any of my photos on flickr being used for this project if you wish. Steve On 10 September 2010 14:42, M Holmes wrote: > We had an idea at Hawkfest. > > Lucy recently used a website to produce a pack of playing cards based on > her family. It's kinda like the Iraq Playing cards - each one has a > picture on it. > > Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based on the > Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an agreed set of > 54 pictures and upload them to the website. After that, anyone who wants > them just buys them from the web company (I think they were about a > tenner each). I'll have to get the website URL from Lucy. Possibly the > website could be prevailed upon to make a donation to the band for each > set sold. > > We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so as to prevent > any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might volunteer their good > piccies. > > So, suggestions: > > Ace of Spades : Has to be Lemmy > Joker : Nik? > Queen of Hearts : Stacia? > > I guess the rankings ought to reflect time in the band. > > Over to you folks... > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 01:05:30 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:05:30 -0500 Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated) Message-ID: On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: (re that prolific fella) > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD). > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times now......but > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > cross"? Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine article at a handsome price so she gets into it even more) hehehe From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 03:49:16 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:49:16 +0100 Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Re > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > cross"? Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release.. Steve On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman wrote: > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: (re that prolific > fella) > > > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD). > > > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times now......but > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > > cross"? > > > Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine article at > a handsome price so she gets into it even more) > hehehe > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 10:06:01 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:06:01 -0500 Subject: was BBC, now Porcupine Tree (for a moment, thanks) Message-ID: On 9/12/10, Steve Freight wrote: > > Re > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > > cross"? > Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included > OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release.. > Steve Interesting - maybe this forum might be interested in that.......again, looking back through those foggy layers of time, it seems like the vinyl came out later, was quite limited, annoyed me, and I skipped it.....but now I am having this strange memory of having bought one of that or something and never played it but it seems like that can't be real.........anyway, no mattrer HOW great the Hawkwind pate' is (and I am quite curious), it probably popped and clicked and I think "The Cross" is one of my all time favorites and since I never did much Prince I always forget that's his track!!! Wow see how quiclly Steve (W) can piss you off~!!! actaully this is so weird to me.....pretty sure I did buy that and had it leaning on the wall of my music room and never played....ouch another thing gone before it even began.... From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 12 10:05:34 2010 From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:05:34 +0100 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, mike coleman wrote: > got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun without > it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW when I > only have 2?? Getting one is hard enough. Amazon advise me that Voiceprint aren't supplying their backorder for the 2CD. The two local record shops have either none (HMV) or only the single CD (FOPP), and I wasn't quite mad enough to pay 12 quid to secure an inferior version of something I was already waiting for slightly sooner. I presume that Voiceprint aren't doing a second pressing until their order book reassures them it's worth it, and remind myself that they pay the artists well and so on, but it's still maddening not to be able to just buy the thing in this day and age. There's really no hope of Hawkwind ever getting near any chart again ever with distribution like this. Yours, Jon ObCD: Reverend Bizarre - _Harbinger of Metal_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 12 10:16:27 2010 From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:16:27 +0100 Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Steve Freight wrote: > Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure Porcupine > Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one reason I gave up > collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!). There was something important that happened to me, as a PT fan, when _In Absentia_ first came out, and it was only available on import from the US. I nearly ordered it, and then thought, "No, I'll wait, because if this is out that far ahead of the European version, then the European version's going to have extra tracks on it so that there's still a reason to buy it. I'll wait till then." And I was right, of course. But since I was now essentially trying to outsmart the band (or their label) in their attempts to get my money, it changed something about my feelings for the music. I probably couldn't hear it the same way as the earlier stuff, because I'd first engaged with it as marketing not as music. I haven't actually been to see them since then, either, which may not be unconnected. Mainly, of course, they're no longer a psychedelic happening, but that's not the only thing that changed there. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Sep 12 10:53:21 2010 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (strobridge jill) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:53:21 +0100 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree Message-ID: Since this has come back to (semi) topic: Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD tracklist: Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, Split Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, Excution of the Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track Eleven, Radioactive Toy, An Empty Box, The Cross/Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the Head. All titles published by Hit and Run Music (Publishing) Ltd except "The Cross" published by Warner Chappell Music Ltd. Total Playing time 77.36 Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape double lp tracklist: Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, Split Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, Excution of the Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track 11, Radioactive Toy, An Empty Box, Out, Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the Head. Sadly I have no record player any more so can't tell you what it sounds like. And please don't even think about making a post-midnight visit..... cheers Jill On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight wrote: > Re > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > > cross"? > Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included > OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release.. > > Steve > > On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: (re that > prolific > > fella) > > > > > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD). > > > > > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times > now......but > > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > > > cross"? > > > > > > Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine article > at > > a handsome price so she gets into it even more) > > hehehe > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 11:12:05 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:12:05 +0100 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To me it always sounded like Magnu. Steve On 12 September 2010 15:53, strobridge jill < jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Since this has come back to (semi) topic: > > Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD tracklist: > Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, Split > Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, Excution of > the > Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track Eleven, Radioactive Toy, An Empty Box, > The Cross/Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the Head. > All titles published by Hit and Run Music (Publishing) Ltd except "The > Cross" published by Warner Chappell Music Ltd. Total Playing time 77.36 > > Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape double lp tracklist: > Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, Split > Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, Excution of > the > Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track 11, Radioactive Toy, An Empty Box, Out, > Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the Head. > > "The 'New' Track: The 1994 CD release includes my version of 'The Cross' a > Prince song, which was on the 'Tarquin's Seaweed Farm' cassette. I was not > greatly fond of this so in a futile and belated attempt to rewrite history > I > have replaced it with a Hawkwind pastiche called "Out" that was only ever > available before on an incredibly limited (we are talking 10 copies and > even > I don't have one) cassette from 1990 called 'Love Death and Mussolini'"> > Sadly I have no record player any more so can't tell you what it sounds > like. > > And please don't even think about making a post-midnight visit..... > > cheers > Jill > > > On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight wrote: > > > Re > > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > > > cross"? > > Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included > > OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release.. > > > > Steve > > > > On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman wrote: > > > > > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: (re that > > prolific > > > fella) > > > > > > > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD). > > > > > > > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times > > now......but > > > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > > > > cross"? > > > > > > > > > Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine > article > > at > > > a handsome price so she gets into it even more) > > > hehehe > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 13:27:38 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:27:38 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <20100910191406.CKKF3.11037208.root@mp12> Message-ID: was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ? or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of something including those 2? I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... a gig simpy unanttended?? there are people with no life following this....... On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch wrote: > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... > ---- gary shindler wrote: > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > shows? > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sun Sep 12 13:50:22 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:50:22 CDT Subject: BOC in KS Message-ID: I really have no life, afraid I didn't go. -----Original Message----- Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:28:08 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "mike coleman" Subject: Re: BOC in KS was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ? or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of something including those 2? I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... a gig simpy unanttended?? there are people with no life following this....... On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch wrote: > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... > ---- gary shindler wrote: > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > shows? > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 21:48:28 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:48:28 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <282838.11052.qm@smtp114-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9/12/10, gary shindler wrote: > > I really have no life, afraid I didn't go. Nobody really does, but I don't think missing a gig makes you a true contender for my title that I plan on trademarking. I mean, you do have a wife, even if she might be like the "mountain puddin' bear girl" on whichever episode of the Fresh Prince that was, and I am certainly not assuming she is.... some people are just better at "appearances" than others.. damn US military industrial complex..... From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sun Sep 12 23:35:35 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:35:35 CDT Subject: BOC in KS Message-ID: Never watched Fresh Prince, hated his music. -----Original Message----- Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:48:51 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "mike coleman" Subject: Re: BOC in KS On 9/12/10, gary shindler wrote: > > I really have no life, afraid I didn't go. Nobody really does, but I don't think missing a gig makes you a true contender for my title that I plan on trademarking. I mean, you do have a wife, even if she might be like the "mountain puddin' bear girl" on whichever episode of the Fresh Prince that was, and I am certainly not assuming she is.... some people are just better at "appearances" than others.. damn US military industrial complex..... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 23:44:24 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:44:24 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <448764.64371.qm@smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I love it seem them all numerous times, and it appears to be trying to get rerun again now, but they are bouncing it around and driving me crazy I never bothered with his music...I can imagine On 9/12/10, gary shindler wrote: > > Never watched Fresh Prince, hated his music. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:48:51 pm > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > From: "mike coleman" > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > On 9/12/10, gary shindler wrote: > > > > I really have no life, afraid I didn't go. > > > Nobody really does, but I don't think missing a gig makes you a true > contender for my title that I plan on trademarking. > I mean, you do have a wife, even if she might be like the "mountain puddin' > bear girl" on whichever episode of the Fresh Prince that was, and I am > certainly not assuming she is.... > some people are just better at "appearances" than others.. > damn US military industrial complex..... > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 13 00:27:44 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:27:44 -0500 Subject: (OFF) BOC in KS Message-ID: it's.....just hard to find anything to watch at 4am when all you have is regular TV :) stupid as it is, wish there was an episode or 2 I'd not seen...... On 9/12/10, mike coleman wrote: > > I love it > seem them all numerous times, and it appears to be trying to get rerun > again now, but they are bouncing it around and driving me crazy > I never bothered with his music...I can imagine > > > On 9/12/10, gary shindler wrote: >> >> Never watched Fresh Prince, hated his music. >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:48:51 pm >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> From: "mike coleman" >> Subject: Re: BOC in KS >> >> On 9/12/10, gary shindler wrote: >> > >> > I really have no life, afraid I didn't go. >> >> >> Nobody really does, but I don't think missing a gig makes you a true >> contender for my title that I plan on trademarking. >> I mean, you do have a wife, even if she might be like the "mountain >> puddin' >> bear girl" on whichever episode of the Fresh Prince that was, and I am >> certainly not assuming she is.... >> some people are just better at "appearances" than others.. >> damn US military industrial complex..... >> > > From redcap at CHARTER.NET Mon Sep 13 14:05:25 2010 From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:05:25 -0700 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm confused here.. Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"? i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser..... ---- mike coleman wrote: > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ? > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of > something including those 2? > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... > a gig simpy unanttended?? > there are people with no life following this....... > > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch wrote: > > > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... > > ---- gary shindler wrote: > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > shows? > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 13 14:19:33 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:19:33 CDT Subject: BOC in KS Message-ID: Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't play live. -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:06:13 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "Mark "Redcap"Grosch" Subject: Re: BOC in KS I'm confused here.. Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"? i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser..... ---- mike coleman wrote: > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ? > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of > something including those 2? > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... > a gig simpy unanttended?? > there are people with no life following this....... > > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch wrote: > > > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... > > ---- gary shindler wrote: > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > shows? > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 13 16:08:50 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:08:50 -0500 Subject: : BOC in KS Message-ID: I was implying that you did- and since I have come to know of the redcap song, I have found amusement in the "creature" meaning prior to the kiss.... so who WAS in kansas or where-ever Gary was considering? I'm still confused On 9/13/10, redcap at charter.net wrote: > > > I'm confused here.. > Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"? > i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and > dont want to be taken as a troll or poser..... > > ---- mike coleman wrote: > > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" > > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap? > > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation > of > > something including those 2? > > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... > > a gig simpy unanttended?? > > there are people with no life following this....... > > > > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch wrote: > > > > > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... > > > ---- gary shindler wrote: > > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my > county > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > > shows? > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 13 16:48:08 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:48:08 -0500 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK guys I've just had a look myself, and I see it was a BOC gig he mentioned "Buck and Bloom" and you provided info that the last gig was in july or something. I see they go to Lubbock........might be nice to visit the site oif the famous "lights" but I think I'll hold out for where the famous egg came down......they'll likely be hitting that city on a future tour...... On 9/13/10, mike coleman wrote: > > I was implying that you did- > and since I have come to know of the redcap song, I have found amusement in > the "creature" meaning prior to the kiss.... > so who WAS in kansas or where-ever Gary was considering? > I'm still confused > > > On 9/13/10, redcap at charter.net wrote: >> >> >> I'm confused here.. >> Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"? >> i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it >> and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser..... >> >> ---- mike coleman wrote: >> > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" >> > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap? >> > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation >> of >> > something including those 2? >> > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... >> > a gig simpy unanttended?? >> > there are people with no life following this....... >> > >> > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch wrote: >> > > >> > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... >> > > ---- gary shindler wrote: >> > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my >> county >> > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent >> > > shows? >> > > >> >> > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 13 17:01:12 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:01:12 -0700 Subject: : BOC in KS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: BOC played Saturday night, Fran Cosmo of Boston the same night. Think all the other performers were tribute bands. I've found nothing reporting on the show. ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 3:08:50 PM Subject: : BOC in KS I was implying that you did- and since I have come to know of the redcap song, I have found amusement in the "creature" meaning prior to the kiss.... so who WAS in kansas or where-ever Gary was considering? I'm still confused On 9/13/10, redcap at charter.net wrote: > > > I'm confused here.. > Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"? > i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and > dont want to be taken as a troll or poser..... > > ---- mike coleman wrote: > > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" > > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap? > > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation > of > > something including those 2? > > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... > > a gig simpy unanttended?? > > there are people with no life following this....... > > > > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch wrote: > > > > > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... > > > ---- gary shindler wrote: > > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my > county > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > > shows? > > > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 13 17:52:43 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:52:43 -0400 Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As long as I live till the show -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:06 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated) On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: (re that prolific fella) > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD). > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times > now......but peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl > exclude "the cross"? Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine article at a handsome price so she gets into it even more) hehehe From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 13 17:52:43 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:52:43 -0400 Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike, you know you want me to have your copy. (ha, ha). -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Freight Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:49 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated) Re > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the > cross"? Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release.. Steve On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman wrote: > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: (re that > prolific > fella) > > > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD). > > > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times > > now......but peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the > > vinyl exclude "the cross"? > > > Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine > article at a handsome price so she gets into it even more) hehehe > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 13 17:52:43 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:52:43 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve, thanks to you, Jill, and everyone else for the info on Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape After the show, in 2 weeks I'll start working on a way to get a copy. That's the best I can do, I do have a good amount of PT to prepare myself with. Thanks, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Freight Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree To me it always sounded like Magnu. Steve On 12 September 2010 15:53, strobridge jill < jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Since this has come back to (semi) topic: > > Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD tracklist: > Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, > Split Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, > Excution of the Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track Eleven, Radioactive > Toy, An Empty Box, The Cross/Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the > Head. > All titles published by Hit and Run Music (Publishing) Ltd except "The > Cross" published by Warner Chappell Music Ltd. Total Playing time > 77.36 > > Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape double lp tracklist: > Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, > Split Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, > Excution of the Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track 11, Radioactive > Toy, An Empty Box, Out, Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the > Head. > > Track: The 1994 CD release includes my version of 'The Cross' a Prince > song, which was on the 'Tarquin's Seaweed Farm' cassette. I was not > greatly fond of this so in a futile and belated attempt to rewrite > history I have replaced it with a Hawkwind pastiche called "Out" that > was only ever available before on an incredibly limited (we are > talking 10 copies and even I don't have one) cassette from 1990 called > 'Love Death and Mussolini'"> Sadly I have no record player any more so > can't tell you what it sounds like. > > And please don't even think about making a post-midnight visit..... > > cheers > Jill > > > On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight wrote: > > > Re > > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude > > > "the cross"? > > Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it > > included OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release.. > > > > Steve > > > > On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman wrote: > > > > > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight wrote: (re that > > prolific > > > fella) > > > > > > > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD). > > > > > > > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times > > now......but > > > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude > > > > "the cross"? > > > > > > > > > Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine > article > > at > > > a handsome price so she gets into it even more) hehehe > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 13 18:08:02 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:08:02 -0500 Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated) In-Reply-To: <86319B785D9B456394E08DFE8B622E11@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 9/13/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > Mike, you know you want me to have your copy. (ha, ha). I actually would were it not for my problem OCD with paper pruducts, and this one has never had it's booklet removed and if it has it is like the moment of conception....The Cross is likely my favorite thing ever and so it remains in my hands for now- If you can cut your meals down I'll help you get one : )!!! From redcap at CHARTER.NET Mon Sep 13 19:22:43 2010 From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:22:43 -0700 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <38321.17860.qm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Actually, Gary, it is back in the rotation again! ---- gary shindler wrote: > Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't play live. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:06:13 pm > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > From: "Mark "Redcap"Grosch" > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > I'm confused here.. > Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"? > i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser..... > > ---- mike coleman wrote: > > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" > > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ? > > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of > > something including those 2? > > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... > > a gig simpy unanttended?? > > there are people with no life following this....... > > > > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch wrote: > > > > > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa... > > > ---- gary shindler wrote: > > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent > > > shows? > > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 13 20:14:54 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:14:54 CDT Subject: BOC in KS Message-ID: I so suck for not going, were they selling merch? -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:23:11 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "Mark "Redcap"Grosch" Subject: Re: BOC in KS Actually, Gary, it is back in the rotation again! ---- gary shindler wrote: > Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't play live. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:06:13 pm > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > From: "Mark "Redcap"Grosch" > Subject: Re: BOC in KS > > I'm confused here.. > Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"? > i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser..... > > ---- mike coleman wrote: > > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff" > > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ? > > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of > > something including those 2? > > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club..... > > a gig simpy unanttended?? > > there are peopl From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Mon Sep 13 23:03:44 2010 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:03:44 -0600 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <38321.17860.qm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't > play live. They played it as their opening number when I saw them a few months ago. The famous "No Bloom" show. Brad in Utah From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 13 23:17:49 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:17:49 CDT Subject: BOC in KS Message-ID: No Bloom? That's a crime. -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:04:18 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "Brad Dahl" Subject: Re: BOC in KS > Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't > play live. They played it as their opening number when I saw them a few months ago. The famous "No Bloom" show. Brad in Utah From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Mon Sep 13 23:55:11 2010 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:55:11 -0600 Subject: BOC in KS In-Reply-To: <241900.40537.qm@smtp109-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >>> No Bloom? That's a crime. Indeed. They did do Hot Rails to Hell, which I have not seen them do in over 30 years. So, there was that bonus. It seemed more like The Buck Dharma Show. Buck seemed uneasy talking to the crowd. They played few songs and did a lot of jamming. I was hoping they would pull out some really rare Buck stuff, but nothing else unusual was played. I guess that would require rehearsing. :) Brad in Utah From steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 12:04:37 2010 From: steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:04:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Possible North American promoter In-Reply-To: <86319B785D9B456394E08DFE8B622E11@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Hi all, I talked to Dibbs at Hawkfest about possible excursions on the american side of the pond, he did say that they really needed to find a promoter who could do all of teh dates, and canadian and american too. I do have a promter friend thats interested enough to want to try and get details from the band, is anyone reading this ?????? or if anyone has Dibbs email ?? Let me know !! (heres hoping eh !) Steve Lindsey steve.lindsey at hotmail.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 13:45:41 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:45:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Possible North American promoter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I hear he's on facebook also active on the Hawkwind forum I think have LOTS of cash and start sorting the brown MM's out.......(to show capabilty of course), because Daddy Shortlegs I mean Van Halen was nothing compared to getting them to even consider this again, I bet... with my luck they'll want Texas sun, actually come, and I'll have to go out oh dear.... On 9/14/10, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I talked to Dibbs at Hawkfest about possible excursions on the american > side of the pond, he did > > say that they really needed to find a promoter who could do all of teh > dates, and canadian and american too. > > > > I do have a promter friend thats interested enough to want to try and get > details from the band, is anyone reading this ?????? > > or if anyone has Dibbs email ?? > > > > Let me know !! (heres hoping eh !) > > > > Steve Lindsey > > steve.lindsey at hotmail.com > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 14:26:39 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:26:39 -0500 Subject: BOC Message-ID: It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained some exposure- I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season one....... and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks absolutely impossible?? squeezing into the old getup?? has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed to the cities that seem to make no sense?? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 14:31:06 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:31:06 -0500 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oops, I meant "T.O.L."- 1964 On 9/14/10, mike coleman wrote: > > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly > contained some exposure- > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > one....... > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > absolutely impossible?? > squeezing into the old getup?? > has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed > to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 14 14:54:54 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:54:54 CDT Subject: BOC Message-ID: Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "mike coleman" Subject: BOC It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained some exposure- I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season one....... and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks absolutely impossible?? squeezing into the old getup?? has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed to the cities that seem to make no sense?? From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 14 15:23:22 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:23:22 -0500 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <6330.55349.qm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between Albert and the band, now ... ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, they're hiding it well! Cheers, Carl On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > -----Original Message----- > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > From: "mike coleman" > Subject: BOC > > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained > some exposure- > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > one....... > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > absolutely impossible?? > squeezing into the old getup?? > has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed > to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 14 15:44:07 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:44:07 -0700 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.myspace.com/bluecoupeband Go here to reach two other BOCers.? ? ________________________________ From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:23:22 PM Subject: Re: BOC While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between Albert and the band, now ... ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, they're hiding it well! Cheers, Carl On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state >lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > -----Original Message----- > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > From: "mike coleman" > Subject: BOC > > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained > some exposure- > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > one....... > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > absolutely impossible?? > squeezing into the old getup?? > has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed > to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 14 15:52:20 2010 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:52:20 -0700 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ? I've got 2OC?almost often enough. I see Albert not?nearly often enough, but I see him. I can see Joe?kind of?often?if?I'm willing to travel some?miles. ? Very truly I tell you, I am?blessed because after all these years, I can still see?my favorite band, though not all at once. ? And I'm thankful they still have the drive and ambiion to play.? Thanks be to BOC.? ? Joe Sardo - a grateful fan Ghent, NY ? --- On Tue, 9/14/10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: From: Carl Edlund Anderson Subject: Re: BOC To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 3:23 PM While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between Albert and the band, now ... ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, they're hiding it well! Cheers, Carl On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > -----Original Message----- > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > From: "mike coleman" > Subject: BOC > > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained > some exposure- > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > one....... > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > absolutely impossible?? > squeezing into the old getup?? > has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed > to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 14 16:18:52 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:18:52 -0500 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <584013.74562.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Blue Coupe have a Facebook presence, as well. Cheers, Carl On 14 Sep 2010, at 14:44 , gary shindler wrote: > http://www.myspace.com/bluecoupeband > Go here to reach two other BOCers. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:23:22 PM > Subject: Re: BOC > > While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between > Albert and the band, now ... > > ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically Buck > and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). > You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs! And is > there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, > they're hiding it well! > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > >> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state >> lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> From: "mike coleman" >> Subject: BOC >> >> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained >> some exposure- >> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the >> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season >> one....... >> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks >> absolutely impossible?? >> squeezing into the old getup?? >> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? >> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed >> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? >> > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 19:38:01 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:38:01 -0500 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <6330.55349.qm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Not wrong although I bet we could drum up the second.....(giggling, funny Gary) BTW Mary's not fat nor an overeater...... in fact she's no longer alone........ ahum;;;;;;; here's guy who goes to bed concered over things like human mutliation (at least one) with victim still living, and apparently expiring from pain, heart attack and fear, and glancing at some BOC lyrics, some of those almost contend in the "bother" department.... might this not be Albert's handiwork?? anway, not feeling too self-confident at moment......attempting to return to my seat in tha corner of the back row.... On 9/14/10, gary shindler wrote: > > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state > lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > -----Original Message----- > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > From: "mike coleman" > Subject: BOC > > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly > contained > some exposure- > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > one....... > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > absolutely impossible?? > squeezing into the old getup?? > has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed > to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > From redcap at CHARTER.NET Tue Sep 14 20:07:20 2010 From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:07:20 -0700 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <40165.6102.qm@web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You are blessed with being in "Bouchard Country"! I only got the Brains here in Wisco for a couple of years and Joe made a gig in Madison a year with Pat Travers and others ago but I didnt find out till the last second. Was in attendance for the Blue Coupe show in N.Y. at the "fans Weekend" show in 08. What a wonderful eve it was! Listings of all dates and shows for all B?C related stuff can be found here.. http://www.hotrails.co.uk/ Cool site and it can use any setlists or reviews anyone has! Peace! 'Cap ---- Joseph Sardo wrote: > ? > I've got 2OC?almost often enough. > I see Albert not?nearly often enough, but I see him. > I can see Joe?kind of?often?if?I'm willing to travel some?miles. > ? > Very truly I tell you, I am?blessed because after all these years, I can still see?my favorite band, though not all at once. > ? > And I'm thankful they still have the drive and ambiion to play.? Thanks be to BOC.? > ? > Joe Sardo - a grateful fan > Ghent, NY > ? > > > --- On Tue, 9/14/10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > Subject: Re: BOC > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 3:23 PM > > > While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between Albert and the band, now ... > > ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, they're hiding it well! > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > > > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > > -----Original Message----- > > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > From: "mike coleman" > > Subject: BOC > > > > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained > > some exposure- > > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > > one....... > > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > > absolutely impossible?? > > squeezing into the old getup?? > > has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed > > to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > > > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From redcap at CHARTER.NET Tue Sep 14 20:08:33 2010 From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:08:33 -0400 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As well as a new cd coming out!:-) ---- Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Blue Coupe have a Facebook presence, as well. > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 14 Sep 2010, at 14:44 , gary shindler wrote: > > > http://www.myspace.com/bluecoupeband > > Go here to reach two other BOCers. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:23:22 PM > > Subject: Re: BOC > > > > While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between > > Albert and the band, now ... > > > > ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically Buck > > and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). > > You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs! And is > > there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, > > they're hiding it well! > > > > Cheers, > > Carl > > > > On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > > > >> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state > >> lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > >> -----Original Message----- > >> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >> From: "mike coleman" > >> Subject: BOC > >> > >> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained > >> some exposure- > >> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > >> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > >> one....... > >> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > >> absolutely impossible?? > >> squeezing into the old getup?? > >> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > >> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed > >> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > >> > > > > -- > > Carl Edlund Anderson > > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 15 08:41:04 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:41:04 -0500 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <20100914200833.FBZSK.8220417.root@mp08> Message-ID: Ah ha! :) On 14 Sep 2010, at 19:08 , wrote: > As well as a new cd coming out!:-) > ---- Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> Blue Coupe have a Facebook presence, as well. >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 14:44 , gary shindler wrote: >> >>> http://www.myspace.com/bluecoupeband >>> Go here to reach two other BOCers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:23:22 PM >>> Subject: Re: BOC >>> >>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between >>> Albert and the band, now ... >>> >>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically Buck >>> and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). >>> You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs! And is >>> there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, >>> they're hiding it well! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Carl >>> >>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: >>> >>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state >>>> lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>> Subject: BOC >>>> >>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained >>>> some exposure- >>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the >>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season >>>> one....... >>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks >>>> absolutely impossible?? >>>> squeezing into the old getup?? >>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? >>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed >>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carl Edlund Anderson >>> http://www.carlaz.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Sep 15 08:44:58 2010 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:44:58 -0400 Subject: BOC Message-ID: Right. BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up. The "other guys" (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days (not that there's anything wrong with that). Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I know what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore. The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll still be putting out music. The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC remasters. Those of us that bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on completing the project. A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC albums the other day and love the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how COOL is that? And yet, sales were lackluster. Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been out of BOC for nearly 30... Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: http://www.bluecoupeband.com John > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM > Subject: Re: BOC > > While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation > between Albert and the band, now ... > > ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically > Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in > their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write > songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that > way? If they do, they're hiding it well! > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > > > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the > state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > > -----Original Message----- > > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > From: "mike coleman" > > Subject: BOC > > > > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly > contained > > some exposure- > > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > > one....... > > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > > absolutely impossible?? > > squeezing into the old getup?? > > has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as > opposed > > to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > > > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 15 10:03:48 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:03:48 -0500 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/15/10, Swartz, John A. wrote: > > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in > 1996, Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been > out of BOC for nearly 30... Ah yes, me in the very back of the field making the whole show about Ace, Ace talking back to "my people", way cool heat-lightining in the backgroud....I know why they have a fake Ace (PUKE upon PUKE) (and I only know that because my friend told me) hope they did video that night.... From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 15 10:26:37 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:26:37 -0700 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening" reissue is a goodie. ________________________________ From: "Swartz, John A." To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM Subject: Re: BOC Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other guys" (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days (not that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I know what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore.? The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll still be putting out music. The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us that bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the laser era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?? Well how COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.? Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out of BOC for nearly 30... Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:? http://www.bluecoupeband.com John > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM > Subject: Re: BOC > > While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation > between Albert and the band, now ... > > ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically > Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in > their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write > songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that > way? If they do, they're hiding it well! > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > > > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the > state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > > -----Original Message----- > > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > From: "mike coleman" > > Subject: BOC > > > > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly > contained > > some exposure- > > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > > one....... > > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks > > absolutely impossible?? > > squeezing into the old getup?? > > has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as > opposed > > to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > > > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 15 11:51:20 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:51:20 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Message-ID: Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... sickening..... From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 15 11:54:54 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:54:54 -0700 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mary's the kindest person I've met from this list and I am adding her to my good thoughts list. Thanks for the info, Mike. ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... sickening..... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 15 11:59:09 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:59:09 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <723298.45268.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's making me sick because although she is a strong individual, that is NOT the case with this she is very sick On 9/15/10, gary shindler wrote: > > Mary's the kindest person I've met from this list and I am adding her to my > good > thoughts list. Thanks for the info, Mike. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM > Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother > > Dear Folks- > I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel > compelled to share this. > Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close > friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other > (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our > lifes...... > I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed > away....51 > yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) > One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... > sickening..... > > > > > From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 15 12:56:33 2010 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:56:33 -0400 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: But John, 1996 was 14 years ago! Maybe they didn't want to look like they were jumping on a bandwagon.;-) On Sep 15, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Swartz, John A. wrote: > Right. BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up. The "other guys" (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days (not that there's anything wrong with that). Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I know what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore. The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll still be putting out music. > > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC remasters. Those of us that bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on completing the project. A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC albums the other day and love the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how COOL is that? And yet, sales were lackluster. > > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been out of BOC for nearly 30... > > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: http://www.bluecoupeband.com > > > John > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM >> Subject: Re: BOC >> >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation >> between Albert and the band, now ... >> >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write >> songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well! >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: >> >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? >>> -----Original Message----- >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Subject: BOC >>> >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly >> contained >>> some exposure- >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season >>> one....... >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks >>> absolutely impossible?? >>> squeezing into the old getup?? >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as >> opposed >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? >>> >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 00:44:57 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:44:57 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <723298.45268.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gary, that's sweet of you to say, and thanks for your kind words, and thoughts. This is all such a shock, David passed away 24 hours ago from a heart attack. This is a very warm and friendly list, and thanks, also to Mike for posting about my brother. The loving vibes on this list mean more than I can tell you, thanks so much. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:55 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Mary's the kindest person I've met from this list and I am adding her to my good thoughts list. Thanks for the info, Mike. ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... sickening..... From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 16 01:44:15 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:44:15 CDT Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Message-ID: We can do more for ourselves than just squabble about not getting to see the 'wind. Good to read you, Mary. -----Original Message----- Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:45:34 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "mary ann sullivan" Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Gary, that's sweet of you to say, and thanks for your kind words, and thoughts. This is all such a shock, David passed away 24 hours ago from a heart attack. This is a very warm and friendly list, and thanks, also to Mike for posting about my brother. The loving vibes on this list mean more than I can tell you, thanks so much. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:55 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Mary's the kindest person I've met from this list and I am adding her to my good thoughts list. Thanks for the info, Mike. ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled From pamwheaton at CABLEONE.NET Thu Sep 16 03:50:15 2010 From: pamwheaton at CABLEONE.NET (pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:50:15 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A large hug to you, Mary ! Pam ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... sickening..... From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 16 05:06:09 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:06:09 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: mary ann sullivan's message of Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:44:57 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 16 05:03:01 2010 From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:03:01 +0100 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Steve Freight wrote: > To me it always sounded like Magnu. >> On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight wrote: >>> Re >>>> peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the >>>> cross"? >>> Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included >>> OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release.. I have this. It is basically `Magnu', complete with words and synth sax solo, but as with the way Mr Wilson's cover of `Hallgallo' turned into `Signify' halfway through it changes shape dramatically in the middle, with a hammering break in rising chords that Alan Davey would have been proud to have written and a chorus of "DOUBT! just get out of my head" repeated with a rising inflection to match the chords. Unlike the `Hallogallo' thing, however, it returns to shape for one more verse of `Magnu' before repeating the break and continuing up the scales into a chaotic finale. It's not bad, although rather constrained by the bedroom recording scenario--very hard to make chaos sound accidental when you're deliberately laying it down on four-track by yourself, I imagine. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Thu Sep 16 10:20:29 2010 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (Elipxr5) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:20:29 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Mary, I was very, very sorry to hear of your recent loss. Keep strong...as you always seem to do in hard times. I know you have the sympathy, support and love of all your many friends in Hawkwind fandom, the band members, and all your friends here on the discussion list. My deepest condolences, yours, Eli Friedman ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... sickening..... From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 10:49:28 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:49:28 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Need to find a copy, also I really need to hear the full version of 9 Cats, since I love that piece. It will happen. I look forward to being able to comment on The Cross, and all those wonderful pieces of music Mr. Wilson has written that I haven't heard, yet. PT, are officially my second favorite band, and the upcoming show is really helping me keep my sanity. Are there any trading sites for PT, if so, I guess they're underground, I plan on bring a bit of extra money to purchase something at the show, but what, and where do I start? Steve, I always loved Magnu, and when I turned Dave Brock on to the first PT album he thought Jupiter Island sounded like Assault and Battery, I don't hear the resemblance, that's why Dave's a musician, and I'm not. Also, I turned my friend Shani Carey on to PT, and it became a joke that an American turned her on to music from her side of the pond. Thanks for giving me something pleasant to think about, I really appreciate it. Your friend, Mary P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read Cosmic Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept for 3 days, and he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded out some folks on the bus reading about conspiracy theories, and all. We never did get around to reading the books, and last I checked, they're not available to me, unless I come up with cash to pay to have them read. During that tour, at the Stone in Frisco, a flyer for a Robert Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind bus. Weird, but I guess it goes with the territory. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:03 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Steve Freight wrote: > To me it always sounded like Magnu. >> On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight wrote: >>> Re >>>> peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude >>>> "the cross"? >>> Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it >>> included OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release.. I have this. It is basically `Magnu', complete with words and synth sax solo, but as with the way Mr Wilson's cover of `Hallgallo' turned into `Signify' halfway through it changes shape dramatically in the middle, with a hammering break in rising chords that Alan Davey would have been proud to have written and a chorus of "DOUBT! just get out of my head" repeated with a rising inflection to match the chords. Unlike the `Hallogallo' thing, however, it returns to shape for one more verse of `Magnu' before repeating the break and continuing up the scales into a chaotic finale. It's not bad, although rather constrained by the bedroom recording scenario--very hard to make chaos sound accidental when you're deliberately laying it down on four-track by yourself, I imagine. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 11:19:41 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:19:41 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <8CD23C1712A64D6-88C-119D@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks Eli, I'm really blessed with so many caring people in my life. It's just so sad I've lost my brother. I'm 1 of 9, so there will be a lot of comfort and fond memories being passed around at the wake and funeral. I dread such occasions. I want to be left alone, during that time, I'm too depressed, and depressing to be around. Since I have no choice, I'll get through this, (like a kidney stone, or something), everyone tells me David is in a better place. Nice words, but it's all so clich?, well meant, of course. There are no words for these sorts of things. Thanks for your friendship through the years. I hope things are going well for you. Are you going to see PT? Love to you, and Paula, Mary and Kosh -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Elipxr5 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:20 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Mary, I was very, very sorry to hear of your recent loss. Keep strong...as you always seem to do in hard times. I know you have the sympathy, support and love of all your many friends in Hawkwind fandom, the band members, and all your friends here on the discussion list. My deepest condolences, yours, Eli Friedman ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... sickening..... From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 11:19:41 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:19:41 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <4C91CC37.8050008@cableone.net> Message-ID: Thanks Pam, , I needed that. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of pam Wheaton Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother A large hug to you, Mary ! Pam ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... sickening..... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 16 11:39:43 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:39:43 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <4C32447AD9B84476AE7F0E25E4561074@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: My intial thoughts in posting this was not to bring anyone down, but rather I know how important the people are here, and I figured people that know Mary could pass her a kind word if they wished.....(not necessarily on forum) Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me for being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or the mental institution, I need sympathy......where the hell is Stewart...... On 9/16/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > Thanks Pam, , I needed that. > Love, > > Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of pam Wheaton > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother > > A large hug to you, Mary ! > Pam > > > ________________________________ From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, > September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear > Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and > feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she > has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few > years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through > unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this > morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart > attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... > sickening..... > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 12:00:32 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:00:32 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <8CD23C1712A64D6-88C-119D@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks Eli, and friends, for belief in my strength, I don't see myself as being all that strong, at all, I'm just getting by with a lot of help from my friends. As always, reading postings from my friends does make me feel a lot better. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Elipxr5 Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:20 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Mary, I was very, very sorry to hear of your recent loss. Keep strong...as you always seem to do in hard times. I know you have the sympathy, support and love of all your many friends in Hawkwind fandom, the band members, and all your friends here on the discussion list. My deepest condolences, yours, Eli Friedman ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... sickening..... From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 12:16:52 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:16:52 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You certainly have my sympathy, and admiration at the way you dealt with the situation. Lots of love, and thanks for everything. You are a dear friend. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:40 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother My intial thoughts in posting this was not to bring anyone down, but rather I know how important the people are here, and I figured people that know Mary could pass her a kind word if they wished.....(not necessarily on forum) Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me for being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or the mental institution, I need sympathy......where the hell is Stewart...... On 9/16/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > Thanks Pam, , I needed that. > Love, > > Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of pam Wheaton > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother > > A large hug to you, Mary ! > Pam > > > ________________________________ From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, > September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear > Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal > and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary > Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), > and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to > get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a > very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 > yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart > attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... > sickening..... > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 16 12:53:04 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:53:04 -0500 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <586751.83960.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Indeed, they did not. Which is a shame. Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :) Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;) Cheers, Carl On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote: > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening" > reissue is a goodie. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Swartz, John A." > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Right. BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up. The "other guys" > (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, > and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe > some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days (not > that there's anything wrong with that). Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I know > what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, > he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the > guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore. > The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out > new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll > still be putting out music. > > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" > project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few > thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way > for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC remasters. Those of us that > bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears > they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on > completing the project. A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC > albums the other day and love the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser > era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how > COOL is that? And yet, sales were lackluster. > > > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, > Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been out of BOC > for nearly 30... > > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: http://www.bluecoupeband.com > > > John > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM >> Subject: Re: BOC >> >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation >> between Albert and the band, now ... >> >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write >> songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well! >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: >> >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? >>> -----Original Message----- >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Subject: BOC >>> >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly >> contained >>> some exposure- >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season >>> one....... >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks >>> absolutely impossible?? >>> squeezing into the old getup?? >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as >> opposed >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? >>> >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 16 13:03:15 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:03:15 -0700 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <02F13299-5E19-4F17-AC3C-F26F00F6836C@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my least favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best, since Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence? ________________________________ From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: BOC Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame. Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :) Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;) Cheers, Carl On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote: > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening" > > reissue is a goodie. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Swartz, John A." > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other guys" > > (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, > and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe > > some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days >(not > > that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I >know > > what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, > he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the > guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore.? > The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out > > new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll > still be putting out music. > > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" > project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few > thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way > for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us that > bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears > they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on > completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC > > albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the laser > era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?? Well how > > COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.? > > > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, > Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out of BOC > for nearly 30... > > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:? http://www.bluecoupeband.com > > > John > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM >> Subject: Re: BOC >> >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation >> between Albert and the band, now ... >> >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write >> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well! >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: >> >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? >>> -----Original Message----- >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Subject: BOC >>> >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly >> contained >>> some exposure- >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season >>> one....... >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks >>> absolutely impossible?? >>> squeezing into the old getup?? >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as >> opposed >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? >>> >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Thu Sep 16 13:07:50 2010 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Markvb) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:07:50 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <66AC1EE725804129A76F431C4565FE17@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Best wishes Mary. Mark Sent from my iPhone On 16 Sep 2010, at 17:16, mary ann sullivan wrote: > You certainly have my sympathy, and admiration at the way you dealt with the > situation. > > Lots of love, and thanks for everything. You are a dear friend. > > Love, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:40 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother > > My intial thoughts in posting this was not to bring anyone down, but rather > I know how important the people are here, and I figured people that know > Mary could pass her a kind word if they wished.....(not necessarily on > forum) > Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me for > being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or the > mental institution, I need sympathy......where the hell is Stewart...... > > > On 9/16/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> >> Thanks Pam, , I needed that. >> Love, >> >> Mary >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of pam Wheaton >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother >> >> A large hug to you, Mary ! >> Pam >> >> >> ________________________________ From: mike coleman >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, >> September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear >> Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal >> and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary >> Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), >> and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to >> get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a >> very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 >> yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart >> attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family....... >> sickening..... >> From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Sep 16 13:13:54 2010 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:13:54 +0100 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <586751.83960.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 15/09/2010 15:26, gary shindler wrote: > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening" > reissue is a goodie. > "Cultosaurus" did at least get remastered, even if there were no extra tracks. -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Photos -> http://kalyr.fotopic.net From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 16 13:22:42 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:22:42 -0500 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <539195.31752.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, Imaginos was really an Al solo project on which Sony slapped some Eric and Buck overdubs and released as BOC -- which is not to say that it is not awesome, but "band" is a nebulous concept in relation to its creation. (Al worked on it for years, with various contributors, from what I understand.) But, yeah, it is probably as good or better than the sum of the best of B?C's Al-less output. :) Of course, Pearlman's and Meltzer's associations with B?C also faded away around the same time as, or shortly after, Al left. That didn't really help B?C's songwriter fund either. I think Al himself has observed that Buck, for example, has great ideas -- but they come or develop rather slowly. So it would seem that there is simply not enough of a "critical mass" in the post-Fire B?C to sustain continued songwriting. Meanwhile, skimming through the Brain Surgeons' back catalog -- OK, maybe its not all blindingly brilliant :) but certainly enough of it is damned rockin' to clarify (as if there had been any doubt) that you need songwriters to produce new material. (Denial of Death continues to kick my arse whenever I give it a spin!) But, hey, Buck and Eric seem happy enough doing what they're doing -- otherwise one supposes they wouldn't bother to do it, so who are we to demand new albums? I haven't seen 2?C, but I saw 3?C a few times, and I enjoyed the shows. Cheers, Carl On 16 Sep 2010, at 12:03 , gary shindler wrote: > Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my least > favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best, since > Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Indeed, they did not. Which is a shame. > > Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :) > > Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;) > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote: > >> If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or >> "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening" >> >> reissue is a goodie. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "Swartz, John A." >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM >> Subject: Re: BOC >> >> Right. BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up. The "other guys" >> >> (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, > >> and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe >> >> some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days >> (not >> >> that there's anything wrong with that). Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I >> know >> >> what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, > >> he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the >> guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore. > >> The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out >> >> new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll > >> still be putting out music. >> >> The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" >> project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few >> thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way > >> for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC remasters. Those of us that >> bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears >> they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on >> completing the project. A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC >> >> albums the other day and love the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser >> era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how >> >> COOL is that? And yet, sales were lackluster. >> >> >> Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, >> Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been out of BOC > >> for nearly 30... >> >> Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: http://www.bluecoupeband.com >> >> >> John >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: BOC >>> >>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation >>> between Albert and the band, now ... >>> >>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically >>> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in >>> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write >>> songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that >>> way? If they do, they're hiding it well! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Carl >>> >>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: >>> >>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the >>> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>> Subject: BOC >>>> >>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly >>> contained >>>> some exposure- >>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the >>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season >>>> one....... >>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks >>>> absolutely impossible?? >>>> squeezing into the old getup?? >>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? >>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as >>> opposed >>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carl Edlund Anderson >>> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 16 13:28:30 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:28:30 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <999C75949CE247648B8CF905957AB61C@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: and I didn't mean to detract either- meant to say I was impressed that you could type the words clearly, especially after speaking last night- awful Mary, I am so sorry and YOU KNOW I AM My friend Jim Collin's mom passed likely not a week ago as well, some of you may remember him... On 9/16/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > Thanks Eli, and friends, for belief in my strength, I don't see myself as > being all that strong, at all, I'm just getting by with a lot of help from > my friends. As always, reading postings from my friends does make me feel > a > lot better. > > Love, > > Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Elipxr5 > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:20 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother > > Dear Mary, I was very, very sorry to hear of your recent loss. Keep > strong...as you always seem to do in hard times. I know you have the > sympathy, support and love of all your many friends in Hawkwind fandom, the > band members, and all your friends here on the discussion list. My deepest > condolences, yours, Eli Friedman > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM > Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother > > Dear Folks- > I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel > compelled to share this. > Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close > friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other > (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our > lifes...... > I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed > away....51 > yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her > family....... > sickening..... > > > > > > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 16 13:46:58 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:46:58 -0700 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <8A9E7582-81E6-4D96-9DB5-E8832D7B0785@carlaz.com> Message-ID: You're right,?most of the guys are?still at it (except Lanier) so that's good. Still kicking myself for missing Brain Surgeons when they swung through Kansas City, I bet there was a small crowd. ________________________________ From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 12:22:42 PM Subject: Re: BOC Well, Imaginos was really an Al solo project on which Sony slapped some Eric and Buck overdubs and released as BOC -- which is not to say that it is not awesome, but "band" is a nebulous concept in relation to its creation.? (Al worked on it for years, with various contributors, from what I understand.) But, yeah, it is probably as good or better than the sum of the best of B?C's Al-less output. :)? Of course, Pearlman's and Meltzer's associations with B?C also faded away around the same time as, or shortly after, Al left.? That didn't really help B?C's songwriter fund either.? I think Al himself has observed that Buck, for example, has great ideas -- but they come or develop rather slowly. So it would seem that there is simply not enough of a "critical mass" in the post-Fire B?C to sustain continued songwriting. Meanwhile, skimming through the Brain Surgeons' back catalog -- OK, maybe its not all blindingly brilliant :) but certainly enough of it is damned rockin' to clarify (as if there had been any doubt) that you need songwriters to produce new material.? (Denial of Death continues to kick my arse whenever I give it a spin!) But, hey, Buck and Eric seem happy enough doing what they're doing -- otherwise one supposes they wouldn't bother to do it, so who are we to demand new albums? I haven't seen 2?C, but I saw 3?C a few times, and I enjoyed the shows. Cheers, Carl On 16 Sep 2010, at 12:03 , gary shindler wrote: > Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my >least > > favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best, >since > > Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame. > > Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :) > > Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;) > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote: > >> If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or >> "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening" >> >> >> reissue is a goodie. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "Swartz, John A." >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM >> Subject: Re: BOC >> >> Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other guys" >> >> >> (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, > > >> and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe >> >> >> some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days >> (not >> >> that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I >> know >> >> what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, > > >> he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the >> guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore.? > > >> The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out >> >> >> new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll > > >> still be putting out music. >> >> The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" >> project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few >> thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way > > >> for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us that >> bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears >> they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on >> completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC >> >> >> albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the laser >> era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?? Well how >> >> >> COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.? >> >> >> Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, >> Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out of BOC > > >> for nearly 30... >> >> Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:? http://www.bluecoupeband.com >> >> >> John >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM >>> Subject: Re: BOC >>> >>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation >>> between Albert and the band, now ... >>> >>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically >>> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in >>> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write >>> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that >>> way? If they do, they're hiding it well! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Carl >>> >>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: >>> >>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the >>> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>> Subject: BOC >>>> >>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly >>> contained >>>> some exposure- >>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the >>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season >>>> one....... >>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks >>>> absolutely impossible?? >>>> squeezing into the old getup?? >>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? >>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as >>> opposed >>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carl Edlund Anderson >>> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Sep 16 13:56:19 2010 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:56:19 +0100 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: <8A9E7582-81E6-4D96-9DB5-E8832D7B0785@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 16/09/2010 18:22, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > But, hey, Buck and Eric seem happy enough doing what they're doing -- otherwise one supposes they wouldn't bother to do it, so who are we to demand new albums? I haven't seen 2?C, but I saw 3?C a few times, and I enjoyed the shows. > Saw 2?C on their last British tour, back when Danny Miranda was playing bass - The Manchester show was a seriously good show, but yes, they're basically their own tribute band nowadays. Although looking at US and UK setlists, they seem to rely less on the same standards and bring out more of the less-often played tracks. Hadn't expected to hear things like "Before the Kiss (A Redcap)" or "Teen Archer". -- Tim Hall Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog Photos -> http://kalyr.fotopic.net From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:25:47 2010 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:25:47 -0400 Subject: BOC Message-ID: Club Ninja has be "re-issued" a few times, but I believe there were no extras (other than maybe some enhanced liner notes). Cultosaurus WAS remastered in Europe, back before Sony started remastering the first 3 discs, and it contains no bonus tracks (but does restore the downbeat of "Deadline", which got cut on the original CD version of Cultosaurus - if memory serves) John > -----Original Message----- > From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my > least > favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best, > since > Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame. > > Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :) > > Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;) > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote: > > > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or > > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted > Evening" > > > > reissue is a goodie. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Swartz, John A." > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM > > Subject: Re: BOC > > > > Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other > guys" > > > > (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on > bass, > > > and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do > breathe > > > > some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these > days > >(not > > > > that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say > I > >know > > > > what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years > ago, > > > he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock > the > > guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring > anymore. > > > The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still > putting out > > > > new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, > they'll > > > still be putting out music. > > > > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of > "reunion" > > project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few > > thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in > any way > > > for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us > that > > bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it > appears > > they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on > > completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first > 3 BOC > > > > albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the > laser > > era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? > Well how > > > > COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster. > > > > > > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in > 1996, > > Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out > of BOC > > > for nearly 30... > > > > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: > http://www.bluecoupeband.com > > > > > > John > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: BOC > >> > >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation > >> between Albert and the band, now ... > >> > >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's > basically > >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in > >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... > write > >> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go > that > >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well! > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Carl > >> > >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > >> > >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the > >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >>> From: "mike coleman" > >>> Subject: BOC > >>> > >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly > >> contained > >>> some exposure- > >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > >>> one....... > >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the > ranks > >>> absolutely impossible?? > >>> squeezing into the old getup?? > >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as > >> opposed > >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Carl Edlund Anderson > >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 17 09:20:07 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:20:07 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:39:43 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 17 09:32:33 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:32:33 -0700 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought the CD, Koch's reissue, had a label advertising an extra track, remember it made a big deal about Howard Stern being on the album. Still have the LP, I think. ?? ________________________________ From: "Swartz, John A." To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 7:25:47 AM Subject: Re: BOC Club Ninja has be "re-issued" a few times, but I believe there were no extras (other than maybe some enhanced liner notes). Cultosaurus WAS remastered in Europe, back before Sony started remastering the first 3 discs, and it contains no bonus tracks (but does restore the downbeat of "Deadline", which got cut on the original CD version of Cultosaurus - if memory serves) John > -----Original Message----- > From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my > least > favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best, > since > Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame. > > Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :) > > Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;) > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote: > > > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or > > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted > Evening" > > > > reissue is a goodie. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Swartz, John A." > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM > > Subject: Re: BOC > > > > Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other > guys" > > > > (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on > bass, > > > and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do > breathe > > > > some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these > days > >(not > > > > that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say > I > >know > > > > what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years > ago, > > > he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock > the > > guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring > anymore. > > > The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still > putting out > > > > new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, > they'll > > > still be putting out music. > > > > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of > "reunion" > > project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few > > thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in > any way > > > for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us > that > > bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it > appears > > they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on > > completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first > 3 BOC > > > > albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the > laser > > era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? > Well how > > > > COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster. > > > > > > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in > 1996, > > Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out > of BOC > > > for nearly 30... > > > > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: > http://www.bluecoupeband.com > > > > > > John > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: BOC > >> > >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation > >> between Albert and the band, now ... > >> > >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's > basically > >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in > >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... > write > >> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go > that > >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well! > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Carl > >> > >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > >> > >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the > >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >>> From: "mike coleman" > >>> Subject: BOC > >>> > >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly > >> contained > >>> some exposure- > >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > >>> one....... > >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the > ranks > >>> absolutely impossible?? > >>> squeezing into the old getup?? > >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as > >> opposed > >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Carl Edlund Anderson > >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 17 09:43:23 2010 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:43:23 -0700 Subject: HW: A new project for the List? In-Reply-To: <201009101342.o8ADgv5D004393@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FOFP said... > > Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based > on the > Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an > agreed set of > 54 pictures and upload them to the website. > > We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so > as to prevent > any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might > volunteer their good piccies. Well, nobody else seems to think so perhaps, but I think this is a great idea. I always liked when we did list projects (anybody want to continue the HW Covers All series? There?s been a lot of new stuff since I did the Vols. 5-8)...plus the old tapes 1-4 need to be digitized to CD/MP3...perhaps I can do that this fall myself). Too bad that people just aren?t as energized as in the old days of the list. Anyway, I thought about this, and drew up a rough draft of personnel to include. Ideas, comments, suggestions, errors of obmission, etc. welcome. Era 1 Era 2 Era 3 Era 4 Card Hearts Spades Diamonds Clubs Ace Turner Lemmy Calvert Brock King Huwy King Davey Chadwick Queen Stacia Sam Fox Wishart Kris Tait Jack DAnderson AShaw Bainbridge Dibs 10 Ollis House GBaker RonTree 9 Dettmar Blake KHale JStuart 8 DougSmith MGriffin DThompson CRizz 7 Slattery Rudolph Dumpy JRichards 6 Smeeton (LL) Fulcher (BB) Frenchy Neil/Marie 5 DikMik Swindells PHayles Kniveton 4 JHarrison Powell AAnderson ABrown 3 DTaylor BTawn SBemand Hone 2 Crimble KingsleyWard CDeamer STaylor Jokers MMoorcock MWright Other possible names that haven?t been included here... Jez Huggett Tony Crerar Trev Hughes Doug Buckley Roger Neville-Neil Crum Jim Lascko Drachen Theaker (was he in HW?) Fred Reeves Chris/Mary Bruce Colin Allen Rob Heaton Keef Barton Rob Godwin (Griffin) Marc Sperhawk Rob Ayling (Voiceprint) Ian Abrahams Carol Clark some of the other dancers, including current F pair and the excellent M/F pair from c. 2004-2005 (whose names I do not know, but pictures should be available from both sets) Anyway, this is just a start. I tried to group them according to era as indicated, and then also try to group some by instrument or role for each set of numbers, starting at Jack (bassists), with some obvious exceptions. It?s hard to do...some eras have lots of one thing, other eras lots of something different. But 5s and 9s are keyboardists, 7s guitarists, 6s visuals/behind the scenes people. The lower cards are just a random mix of people with short terms or whatever. Perhaps some of these names would be changed after discussion. The aces just seem to have to be these four people, and the queens I put as all women (hence, Sam Fox), and Simon King has to be a King natch. Calvert doesn?t match his group?s era classification, but someone had to be an anomaly here. Maybe we should just abandon the idea of making each number card across the suits be a particular instrument/role...it?s just not working all that good, and some people end up too high/low in the order accordingly. Discuss. The big problem as I see it is...how to get all good quality photos, esp. if you are not going to violate copyrights. We can all contribute recent stuff, but where are you going to find minor role players from the 80s like Clive Deamer, except if you?ve been to a Portishead show in recent years? And what about Powell, Rudolph, BTawn, etc. etc. Plus, are you going to mix promo head shots with stage shots, B&W with colour, and most importantly, do all photos have to come from their days with HW? I mean, it is now easy to get shots of Slattery, DAnderson, Crimble, and Ollis, with Space Ritual, but they are all 40 years older than they were when they were in the band. (And Dick Taylor played at Hawkfest, but again he doesn?t look like he did in 1970...still plays pretty good though.) I dunno...this project will take some work...perhaps Ian Abrahams has some access to some photos from the past that could be used. Is he still here? Just my thoughts...didn?t want the idea to die without some stronger consideration... Keith H. (Karlsruhe, DE) P.S. Was Steve Bemand the "frontman" for TOSH at Hawkfest this year? You know, he?s not bad...in fact, TOSH was dangerously close to being every bit as good as Tim Blake?s Hawkwind the previous night. :) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 17 11:41:49 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:41:49 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary Message-ID: Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention to this AM) because of you...... From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Sep 17 11:54:22 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:54:22 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ha? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention to this AM) because of you...... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 17 12:06:15 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:06:15 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary In-Reply-To: <98E3EE7655594739AD589E683687D578@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: oh typo for typo I see....I was having revenge on your reader for singling me out : ) On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > Ha? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary > > Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention to > this AM) because of you...... > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Sep 17 12:18:53 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:18:53 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Rightfully so Mr. Caulim, (that's what it calls you., now.) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:06 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Update re; Mary oh typo for typo I see....I was having revenge on your reader for singling me out : ) On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > Ha? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary > > Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm > mention to this AM) because of you...... > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Sep 17 12:18:53 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:18:53 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike, now I get it, sorry, I'm not thinking as clearly as I'd be normally, thanks to the support from everyone on the forums it's been better than anything anyone else could do. I'm a very rich person to have such good friends. I want to thank everyone, with a special thanks to Mike for alerting everyone to my situation, although it's not relevant to the forum. The postings I've been sent, both private and on the forum have been good for my soul. I wish I could visit with everyone through a virtual reality and really get time to interact on a personal level. Without the love from my friends I would not be coping nearly as well. This all does feel unreal, still, but, I know, that's par for the course. Thanks again to everyone for your loving care. Mike, you're so precise and often concise, I like to be sure I don't miss your meaning. You've been like a brother to me with your guidance strength, and kindness. Believe it or not, I'm lost for words, so I'll end this here. Love to all,, Mary P.S. I'd thank everyone individually here, but that would take a bit of time. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention to this AM) because of you...... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 17 12:21:37 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:21:37 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I see she's not rushing to unembarass me- hopefully my meaning of phone conversation previous days: "unintelligible unitelligible, word made out, unintelligible" to today "coherent" was conveyed and yes I am exaggerating here as usual..... the effect of those here involved is glaring to put it mildly and of course it hasn't even sunk in but ...... On 9/17/10, mike coleman wrote: > > oh typo for typo I see....I was having revenge on your reader for singling > me out : ) > > > On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: >> >> Ha? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of mike coleman >> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary >> >> Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention >> to >> this AM) because of you...... >> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 17 12:32:39 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:32:39 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary In-Reply-To: <656D53FB048C43AE8D48FC8EB3DE6985@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > Rightfully so Mr. Caulim, (that's what it calls you., now.) God knows how terribly stupid I ALREADY sound, especially at that most insane high-speed.....why can't it take it's sweet time making strange radio signal noises fading in and out and announce me by saying "you are receiving a message from deep space?? From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 17 12:36:22 2010 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:36:22 +0000 Subject: HW: A new project for the List? In-Reply-To: <522391.42570.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ________________________________ From: K Still here, Keith! ________________________________ From: Keith Henderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 2:43:23 PM Subject: Re: HW: A new project for the List? FOFP said... > > Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based > on the > Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an > agreed set of > 54 pictures and upload them to the website. > > We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so > as to prevent > any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might > volunteer their good piccies. Well, nobody else seems to think so perhaps, but I think this is a great idea.? I always liked when we did list projects (anybody want to continue the HW Covers All series?? There?s been a lot of new stuff since I did the Vols. 5-8)...plus the old tapes 1-4 need to be digitized to CD/MP3...perhaps I can do that this fall myself).? Too bad that people just aren?t as energized as in the old days of the list. Anyway, I thought about this, and drew up a rough draft of personnel to include.? Ideas, comments, suggestions, errors of obmission, etc. welcome. ? ? ? ? ? ? Era 1? ? ? ? ? Era 2? ? ? ? ? Era 3? ? ? ? ? Era 4 Card? ? ? ? Hearts? ? ? ? ? Spades? ? ? ? Diamonds? ? ? Clubs Ace? ? ? ? Turner? ? ? ? ? Lemmy? ? ? ? ? Calvert? ? ? ? Brock King? ? ? ? Huwy? ? ? ? ? ? King? ? ? ? ? Davey? ? ? ? ? Chadwick Queen? ? ? Stacia? ? ? ? ? Sam Fox? ? ? ? Wishart? ? ? ? Kris Tait Jack? ? ? ? DAnderson? ? ? AShaw? ? ? ? ? Bainbridge? ? Dibs 10? ? ? ? ? Ollis? ? ? ? ? House? ? ? ? ? GBaker? ? ? ? RonTree 9? ? ? ? ? Dettmar? ? ? ? Blake? ? ? ? ? KHale? ? ? ? ? JStuart 8? ? ? ? ? DougSmith? ? ? MGriffin? ? ? DThompson? ? ? CRizz 7? ? ? ? ? Slattery? ? ? ? Rudolph? ? ? ? Dumpy? ? ? ? ? JRichards 6? ? ? ? ? Smeeton (LL)? ? Fulcher (BB)? Frenchy? ? ? ? Neil/Marie 5? ? ? ? ? DikMik? ? ? ? ? Swindells? ? ? PHayles? ? ? ? Kniveton 4? ? ? ? ? JHarrison? ? ? Powell? ? ? ? AAnderson? ? ? ABrown 3? ? ? ? ? DTaylor? ? ? ? BTawn? ? ? ? ? SBemand? ? ? ? Hone 2? ? ? ? ? Crimble? ? ? ? KingsleyWard? CDeamer? ? ? ? STaylor Jokers? ? ? MMoorcock? ? ? MWright Other possible names that haven?t been included here... Jez Huggett Tony Crerar Trev Hughes Doug Buckley Roger Neville-Neil Crum Jim Lascko Drachen Theaker (was he in HW?) Fred Reeves Chris/Mary Bruce Colin Allen Rob Heaton Keef Barton Rob Godwin (Griffin) Marc Sperhawk Rob Ayling (Voiceprint) Ian Abrahams Carol Clark some of the other dancers, including current F pair and the excellent M/F pair from c. 2004-2005 (whose names I do not know, but pictures should be available from both sets) Anyway, this is just a start.? I tried to group them according to era as indicated, and then also try to group some by instrument or role for each set of numbers, starting at Jack (bassists), with some obvious exceptions.? It?s hard to do...some eras have lots of one thing, other eras lots of something different.? But 5s and 9s are keyboardists, 7s guitarists, 6s visuals/behind the scenes people.? The lower cards are just a random mix of people with short terms or whatever.? Perhaps some of these names would be changed after discussion.? The aces just seem to have to be these four people, and the queens I put as all women (hence, Sam Fox), and Simon King has to be a King natch.? Calvert doesn?t match his group?s era classification, but someone had to be an anomaly here. Maybe we should just abandon the idea of making each number card across the suits be a particular instrument/role...it?s just not working all that good, and some people end up too high/low in the order accordingly.? Discuss. The big problem as I see it is...how to get all good quality photos, esp. if you are not going to violate copyrights.? We can all contribute recent stuff, but where are you going to find minor role players from the 80s like Clive Deamer, except if you?ve been to a Portishead show in recent years?? And what about Powell, Rudolph, BTawn, etc. etc. Plus, are you going to mix promo head shots with stage shots, B&W with colour, and most importantly, do all photos have to come from their days with HW?? I mean, it is now easy to get shots of Slattery, DAnderson, Crimble, and Ollis, with Space Ritual, but they are all 40 years older than they were when they were in the band.? (And Dick Taylor played at Hawkfest, but again he doesn?t look like he did in 1970...still plays pretty good though.)? I dunno...this project will take some work...perhaps Ian Abrahams has some access to some photos from the past that could be used.? Is he still here? Just my thoughts...didn?t want the idea to die without some stronger consideration... Keith H. (Karlsruhe, DE) P.S.? Was Steve Bemand the "frontman" for TOSH at Hawkfest this year?? You know, he?s not bad...in fact, TOSH was dangerously close to being every bit as good as Tim Blake?s Hawkwind the previous night. :) From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Sat Sep 18 00:52:42 2010 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:52:42 +0000 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <201009171320.o8HDK7fF004239@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > You'd think that before they gave the police their uniforms, they'd > require them to know that impersonating a Pope isn't illegal. I don't think an attached brain is part of their job requirements. Any people arrested for taking pictures of that? Gr, Arjan H --------------------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 18 08:37:24 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:37:24 -0500 Subject: HW: A new project for the List? In-Reply-To: <522391.42570.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9/17/10, Keith Henderson wrote: > > FOFP said... > > > > Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based > > on the > > Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an > > agreed set of > > 54 pictures and upload them to the website. > > > > We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so > > as to prevent > > any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might > > volunteer their good piccies. > > Well, nobody else seems to think so perhaps, but I think this is a great > idea. *Could it be that they might need antidepressant medication or mood stabilizers when viewing the deck??* *:P* *Great job Keith.... I am simpy incapable and my folders of photos were stolen by my family in a revenge plot...* ** ** From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 18 11:39:55 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:39:55 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: <201009171320.o8HDK7fF004239@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'd love to throw on a green (nik-turner style) dreadlock wig, and have a dopemobile to drive down the street throwing out bags of oregano (and waving), but I fear the police would not be my (biggest problem) then..... Of course the humour in this to me, is that I don't even smoke dope anymore, and care less about it generally.... I really did put up a good show and I cursed and chewed them out, and while it certainly would be a decent video my performance was less than a 10, as I failed to shove the UFO thing at them properly when telling them society was a joke to me, etc, etc I did tell them that I will attack anyone.... Next time they ask what I am doing here, I will say that I hear a lady in #1024 gives "skin darkening", an that I am on my way to have my skin "tinted" On 9/17/10, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > > Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me > for > > being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or > the > > mental institution, I need sympathy... > > That happened to someone here yesterday just because he was dressed like > the Pope and had his own Popemobile. > > You'd think that before they gave the police their uniforms, they'd > require them to know that impersonating a Pope isn't illegal. > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 18 11:45:09 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:45:09 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ooops, after the chewing of course came THE LAUGHTER The best part sorry folks and what is with that squeezing the hell out of just 2 fingers?? At least the guy doing that stopped when asked On 9/18/10, mike coleman wrote: > > I'd love to throw on a green (nik-turner style) dreadlock wig, and have a > dopemobile to drive down the street throwing out bags of oregano (and > waving), but I fear the police would not be my (biggest problem) then..... > Of course the humour in this to me, is that I don't even smoke dope > anymore, and care less about it generally.... > I really did put up a good show and I cursed and chewed them out, and while > it certainly would be a decent video my performance was less than a 10, as I > failed to shove the UFO thing at them properly when telling them society was > a joke to me, etc, etc > I did tell them that I will attack anyone.... > Next time they ask what I am doing here, I will say that I hear a lady in > #1024 gives "skin darkening", an that I am on my way to have my skin > "tinted" > > > > On 9/17/10, M Holmes wrote: >> >> mike coleman writes: >> >> > Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me >> for >> > being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or >> the >> > mental institution, I need sympathy... >> >> That happened to someone here yesterday just because he was dressed like >> the Pope and had his own Popemobile. >> >> You'd think that before they gave the police their uniforms, they'd >> require them to know that impersonating a Pope isn't illegal. >> >> FoFP >> >> >> -- >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. >> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 18 12:35:43 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:35:43 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Not Mary''s Brother Message-ID: I am totally sorry for the 100th time sending so many posts- I am totally sorry that unlike yourselves I have nothing better to dio at the moment than to beg forgiveness that I need to explain--- that when I mention "attacking people", it simple means "psychologically beating up upon", and my (rather limited) life does seem to have that shoe fitting nicely and I insult everything everywhere I go all the while keeping enough humor in it to make it stick... I am a free man for a reason....however I do have guts .....but harm inncoent decent people in any way I think not!!! On 9/18/10, mike coleman wrote: > > Ooops, after the chewing of course came THE LAUGHTER > The best part > sorry folks and what is with that squeezing the hell out of just 2 > fingers?? > At least the guy doing that stopped when asked > > On 9/18/10, mike coleman wrote: >> >> I'd love to throw on a green (nik-turner style) dreadlock wig, and have a >> dopemobile to drive down the street throwing out bags of oregano (and >> waving), but I fear the police would not be my (biggest problem) then..... >> Of course the humour in this to me, is that I don't even smoke dope >> anymore, and care less about it generally.... >> I really did put up a good show and I cursed and chewed them out, and >> while it certainly would be a decent video my performance was less than a >> 10, as I failed to shove the UFO thing at them properly when telling them >> society was a joke to me, etc, etc >> I did tell them that I will attack anyone.... >> Next time they ask what I am doing here, I will say that I hear a lady in >> #1024 gives "skin darkening", an that I am on my way to have my skin >> "tinted" >> >> >> >> On 9/17/10, M Holmes wrote: >>> >>> mike coleman writes: >>> >>> > Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking >>> me for >>> > being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or >>> the >>> > mental institution, I need sympathy... >>> >>> That happened to someone here yesterday just because he was dressed like >>> the Pope and had his own Popemobile. >>> >>> You'd think that before they gave the police their uniforms, they'd >>> require them to know that impersonating a Pope isn't illegal. >>> >>> FoFP >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. >>> >> >> > From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Sep 20 08:44:00 2010 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:44:00 -0400 Subject: BOC Message-ID: I never bought the Koch release, but did see it on the shelves and never saw anything about an extra track (and believe me, I would have gotten it if did). I believe at the time Club Ninja was "out of print" so this release was hailed as bringing back the album - it did have new liner notes by Arthur Levy, I believe - he did liner notes for the "Workshop of the Telescopes" compilation and maybe something else (I seem to recall that Bolle didn't like the guy's liner notes). John > -----Original Message----- > From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: BOC > > I thought the CD, Koch's reissue, had a label advertising an extra track, > remember it made a big deal about Howard Stern being on the album. Still > have > the LP, I think. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "Swartz, John A." > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 7:25:47 AM > Subject: Re: BOC > > Club Ninja has be "re-issued" a few times, but I believe there were no > extras > (other than maybe some enhanced liner notes). > > Cultosaurus WAS remastered in Europe, back before Sony started remastering > the > first 3 discs, and it contains no bonus tracks (but does restore the > downbeat of > "Deadline", which got cut on the original CD version of Cultosaurus - if > memory > serves) > > John > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:03 PM > > Subject: Re: BOC > > > > Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of > my > > least > > favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the > best, > > since > > Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence? > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM > > Subject: Re: BOC > > > > Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame. > > > > Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :) > > > > Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;) > > > > Cheers, > > Carl > > > > On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote: > > > > > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or > > > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted > > Evening" > > > > > > reissue is a goodie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: "Swartz, John A." > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM > > > Subject: Re: BOC > > > > > > Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The > "other > > guys" > > > > > > (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly > on > > bass, > > > > > and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do > > breathe > > > > > > some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these > > days > > >(not > > > > > > that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't > say > > I > > >know > > > > > > what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 > years > > ago, > > > > > he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to > knock > > the > > > guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring > > anymore. > > > > > The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still > > putting out > > > > > > new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, > > they'll > > > > > still be putting out music. > > > > > > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of > > "reunion" > > > project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few > > > thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in > > any way > > > > > for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us > > that > > > bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it > > appears > > > they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on > > > completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the > first > > 3 BOC > > > > > > albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the > > laser > > > era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? > > Well how > > > > > > COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster. > > > > > > > > > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in > > 1996, > > > Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out > > of BOC > > > > > for nearly 30... > > > > > > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: > > http://www.bluecoupeband.com > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM] > > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM > > >> Subject: Re: BOC > > >> > > >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation > > >> between Albert and the band, now ... > > >> > > >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's > > basically > > >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in > > >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... > > write > > >> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go > > that > > >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well! > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Carl > > >> > > >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote: > > >> > > >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the > > >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong? > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm > > >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > >>> From: "mike coleman" > > >>> Subject: BOC > > >>> > > >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly > > >> contained > > >>> some exposure- > > >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the > > >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season > > >>> one....... > > >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the > > ranks > > >>> absolutely impossible?? > > >>> squeezing into the old getup?? > > >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile?? > > >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as > > >> opposed > > >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense?? > > >>> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Carl Edlund Anderson > > >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Carl Edlund Anderson > > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Sep 20 11:19:16 2010 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:19:16 +0000 Subject: Hawkfest videos: Message-ID: Hello, did anyone get any video footage of the One Eyed Bishops set at Hawkfest 2010? Peace, Mike Burro From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 20 20:35:35 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:35:35 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That would be better. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:33 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Update re; Mary On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan wrote: > > Rightfully so Mr. Caulim, (that's what it calls you., now.) God knows how terribly stupid I ALREADY sound, especially at that most insane high-speed.....why can't it take it's sweet time making strange radio signal noises fading in and out and announce me by saying "you are receiving a message from deep space?? From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 21 07:05:55 2010 From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:05:55 +0100 Subject: BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Swartz, John A. wrote: > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of > "reunion" project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans > (maybe a few thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could > add lasers in any way for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC > remasters. Those of us that bought them I think were very happy to have > them, but commercially it appears they were a bust - so much that Sony > appears to have pulled the plug on completing the project. A real shame > - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC albums the other day and love > the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser era show included with > *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how COOL is that? > And yet, sales were lackluster. Damn, is that any kind of official? I was hoping for good things from a _Mirrors_ remaster, it's always struck me as an album that needed freeing from its production, plus which I can't remember ever seeing the regular CD on sale. CE is one of my favourite BOC albums, too, and if theres was bonus material from that era I'd love to hear it. FoUO may be OK as it stands, I guess, already quite digital. ETI wouldn't suffer too much from a clean-up either. I wonder whether tRBN and CN would really justify the effort, myself, though. Oh well, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 21 09:14:03 2010 From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:14:03 +0100 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, mary ann sullivan wrote: > P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read Cosmic > Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept for 3 days, and > he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded out some folks on the bus > reading about conspiracy theories, and all. We never did get around to > reading the books, and last I checked, they're not available to me, unless I > come up with cash to pay to have them read. During that tour, at the Stone > in Frisco, a flyer for a Robert Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind > bus. Weird, but I guess it goes with the territory. I only found out yesterday that he'd died. I mean, I had assumed, but I hadn't realised it was so recent. The breaking of such a thing should have made a greater crack, or however the line goes. Yours, Jonathan -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Sep 21 10:04:04 2010 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:04:04 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sep 21, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, mary ann sullivan wrote: > >> P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read Cosmic >> Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept for 3 days, and >> he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded out some folks on the bus >> reading about conspiracy theories, and all. We never did get around to >> reading the books, and last I checked, they're not available to me, unless I >> come up with cash to pay to have them read. During that tour, at the Stone >> in Frisco, a flyer for a Robert Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind >> bus. Weird, but I guess it goes with the territory. > > I only found out yesterday that he'd died. I mean, I had assumed, but I hadn't realised it was so recent. The breaking of such a thing should have made a greater crack, or however the line goes. Fliegende Kinderscheisse! I only just learned from your message that Robert Anton Wilson died!! I agree that it ought to have been more widely known... Cheers, Paul. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 21 12:31:25 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:31:25 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I didn't know till just now, that's a real shame. I knew he wasn't exactly young in body any longer. Another pioneer off to check out the next realm. I hope his spirit continues to live and learn on the metaphysical level. Another loss for us here. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:14 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, mary ann sullivan wrote: > P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read > Cosmic Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept > for 3 days, and he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded out > some folks on the bus reading about conspiracy theories, and all. We > never did get around to reading the books, and last I checked, they're > not available to me, unless I come up with cash to pay to have them > read. During that tour, at the Stone in Frisco, a flyer for a Robert > Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind bus. Weird, but I guess it goes with the territory. I only found out yesterday that he'd died. I mean, I had assumed, but I hadn't realised it was so recent. The breaking of such a thing should have made a greater crack, or however the line goes. Yours, Jonathan -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 21 12:31:25 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:31:25 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <5E0A1AE9-9D47-4F3F-AD6F-05B762980A7D@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: Fliegende Kinderscheisse, Ha? Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:04 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree On Sep 21, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, mary ann sullivan wrote: > >> P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read >> Cosmic Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept >> for 3 days, and he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded >> out some folks on the bus reading about conspiracy theories, and all. >> We never did get around to reading the books, and last I checked, >> they're not available to me, unless I come up with cash to pay to >> have them read. During that tour, at the Stone in Frisco, a flyer for >> a Robert Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind bus. Weird, but I guess it goes with the territory. > > I only found out yesterday that he'd died. I mean, I had assumed, but I hadn't realised it was so recent. The breaking of such a thing should have made a greater crack, or however the line goes. Fliegende Kinderscheisse! I only just learned from your message that Robert Anton Wilson died!! I agree that it ought to have been more widely known... Cheers, Paul. From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Sep 21 16:31:09 2010 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:31:09 +0000 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Fliegende Kinderscheisse, > > Ha? > Flying kiddie-shit. Don't ask me...... Gr, Arjan H --------------------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Sep 21 17:53:05 2010 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:53:05 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <20100921203016.M79861@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: On 21/09/2010 4:31 PM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: >> Fliegende Kinderscheisse, >> >> Ha? >> > > Flying kiddie-shit. > > Don't ask me...... http://www.last.fm/music/Bahlasti+Ompehda/_/Fliegende+Kinderscheisse :) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 22 02:55:13 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:55:13 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <4C992941.4020609@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: I've tried signing into lastfm but they have that incription thing for security where you need to write the words or letters on the screen. Often I don't hear the message clearly, or by the time I get into the proper edit field, I've forgotten what to write, especially when it's a stream of numbers. I'll try it again. "Flying kitty shit," stile chuckling. Thanks Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jerry G Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:53 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree On 21/09/2010 4:31 PM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: >> Fliegende Kinderscheisse, >> >> Ha? >> > > Flying kiddie-shit. > > Don't ask me...... http://www.last.fm/music/Bahlasti+Ompehda/_/Fliegende+Kinderscheisse :) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 22 02:55:13 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:55:13 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <20100921203016.M79861@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: Thanks, I needed something funny, what a mess my house would be with Kosh, ak!!! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:31 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree > Fliegende Kinderscheisse, > > Ha? > Flying kiddie-shit. Don't ask me...... Gr, Arjan H --------------------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Sep 22 08:54:08 2010 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:54:08 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <7F787D717C924C939FDE4E63D0FE2B68@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Sorry for not explaining, but fliegende kinderscheisse is from the Principia Discordia (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/38.php) and so figured would be apropos and familiar to all in a thread concerning Robert Anton Wilson. :-) (It's also quoted in the Illuminatus! Trilogy, if I'm not mistaken.) FIVE TONS OF FLAX! Cheers, Paul. On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:55 AM, mary ann sullivan wrote: > Thanks, I needed something funny, what a mess my house would be with Kosh, > ak!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:31 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree > >> Fliegende Kinderscheisse, >> >> Ha? >> > > Flying kiddie-shit. > > Don't ask me...... > > Gr, > > Arjan H > > --------------------------------------------- > Rock in the 70ies: > substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration > From tim at KALYR.COM Wed Sep 22 09:04:37 2010 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:04:37 +0100 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <9BC01CE2-7F55-4287-BB81-3A7485357BCC@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > Sorry for not explaining, but fliegende kinderscheisse is from the > Principia Discordia (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/38.php) and so > figured would be apropos and familiar to all in a thread concerning Robert > Anton Wilson. :-) (It's also quoted in the Illuminatus! Trilogy, if I'm > not mistaken.) > > FIVE TONS OF FLAX! Fnord! -- Tim Hall http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://kalyr.fotopic.net http://twitter.com/kalyr From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 22 09:35:32 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:35:32 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <9BC01CE2-7F55-4287-BB81-3A7485357BCC@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: As I posted, I never was able to have his books read to me, I do know who he was, and know a few book titles. Sadly for now I'm enlightened concerning his work. Thanks for the added info. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:54 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree Sorry for not explaining, but fliegende kinderscheisse is from the Principia Discordia (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/38.php) and so figured would be apropos and familiar to all in a thread concerning Robert Anton Wilson. :-) (It's also quoted in the Illuminatus! Trilogy, if I'm not mistaken.) FIVE TONS OF FLAX! Cheers, Paul. On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:55 AM, mary ann sullivan wrote: > Thanks, I needed something funny, what a mess my house would be with > Kosh, ak!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:31 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree > >> Fliegende Kinderscheisse, >> >> Ha? >> > > Flying kiddie-shit. > > Don't ask me...... > > Gr, > > Arjan H > > --------------------------------------------- > Rock in the 70ies: > substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier > obliteration > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 23 06:02:06 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:02:06 +0100 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Tim Hall's message of Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:04:37 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 23 09:41:33 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:41:33 -0400 Subject: Palace Springs Longbox? Message-ID: Hi friends, I'm looking for along box of Palace Springs. It's asking a lot, I know, but I'm willing to pay a lot for this specific item, especially since I have so many memories from that tour. I'm specifically looking for the longbox, if anyone can help, I will make it well worth it. I'll be away for a few days, so I'll be responding after the weekend, when I can check my mail. This is not a request for "A favor," rather a buisness proposal. Many thanks, Mary From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 23 09:57:53 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:57:53 -0400 Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <4C992941.4020609@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: My reader pronounced your posting as "kitty, as opposed to kiddie," I know I seem to have a 1 track mind, concerning cats, but that was the first image that came to mind. Now we all know the origin of the reference. Thanks, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jerry G Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:53 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree On 21/09/2010 4:31 PM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: >> Fliegende Kinderscheisse, >> >> Ha? >> > > Flying kiddie-shit. > > Don't ask me...... http://www.last.fm/music/Bahlasti+Ompehda/_/Fliegende+Kinderscheisse :) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 23 11:44:06 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:44:06 -0400 Subject: HW: A new project for the List? In-Reply-To: <522391.42570.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Keith, You obviously put a lot of thought into this project. I want to thank you for keeping Chris (and me) in mind. For Chris it was work, but a labor of love, and we both said that the time we spent with Hawkwind, and all the fans was 1 of the best times in our lives. Many thanks, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Keith Henderson Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: A new project for the List? FOFP said... > > Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based on the > Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an agreed set > of > 54 pictures and upload them to the website. > > We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so as to > prevent any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might volunteer > their good piccies. Well, nobody else seems to think so perhaps, but I think this is a great idea. I always liked when we did list projects (anybody want to continue the HW Covers All series? There?s been a lot of new stuff since I did the Vols. 5-8)...plus the old tapes 1-4 need to be digitized to CD/MP3...perhaps I can do that this fall myself). Too bad that people just aren?t as energized as in the old days of the list. Anyway, I thought about this, and drew up a rough draft of personnel to include. Ideas, comments, suggestions, errors of obmission, etc. welcome. Era 1 Era 2 Era 3 Era 4 Card Hearts Spades Diamonds Clubs Ace Turner Lemmy Calvert Brock King Huwy King Davey Chadwick Queen Stacia Sam Fox Wishart Kris Tait Jack DAnderson AShaw Bainbridge Dibs 10 Ollis House GBaker RonTree 9 Dettmar Blake KHale JStuart 8 DougSmith MGriffin DThompson CRizz 7 Slattery Rudolph Dumpy JRichards 6 Smeeton (LL) Fulcher (BB) Frenchy Neil/Marie 5 DikMik Swindells PHayles Kniveton 4 JHarrison Powell AAnderson ABrown 3 DTaylor BTawn SBemand Hone 2 Crimble KingsleyWard CDeamer STaylor Jokers MMoorcock MWright Other possible names that haven?t been included here... Jez Huggett Tony Crerar Trev Hughes Doug Buckley Roger Neville-Neil Crum Jim Lascko Drachen Theaker (was he in HW?) Fred Reeves Chris/Mary Bruce Colin Allen Rob Heaton Keef Barton Rob Godwin (Griffin) Marc Sperhawk Rob Ayling (Voiceprint) Ian Abrahams Carol Clark some of the other dancers, including current F pair and the excellent M/F pair from c. 2004-2005 (whose names I do not know, but pictures should be available from both sets) Anyway, this is just a start. I tried to group them according to era as indicated, and then also try to group some by instrument or role for each set of numbers, starting at Jack (bassists), with some obvious exceptions. It?s hard to do...some eras have lots of one thing, other eras lots of something different. But 5s and 9s are keyboardists, 7s guitarists, 6s visuals/behind the scenes people. The lower cards are just a random mix of people with short terms or whatever. Perhaps some of these names would be changed after discussion. The aces just seem to have to be these four people, and the queens I put as all women (hence, Sam Fox), and Simon King has to be a King natch. Calvert doesn?t match his group?s era classification, but someone had to be an anomaly here. Maybe we should just abandon the idea of making each number card across the suits be a particular instrument/role...it?s just not working all that good, and some people end up too high/low in the order accordingly. Discuss. The big problem as I see it is...how to get all good quality photos, esp. if you are not going to violate copyrights. We can all contribute recent stuff, but where are you going to find minor role players from the 80s like Clive Deamer, except if you?ve been to a Portishead show in recent years? And what about Powell, Rudolph, BTawn, etc. etc. Plus, are you going to mix promo head shots with stage shots, B&W with colour, and most importantly, do all photos have to come from their days with HW? I mean, it is now easy to get shots of Slattery, DAnderson, Crimble, and Ollis, with Space Ritual, but they are all 40 years older than they were when they were in the band. (And Dick Taylor played at Hawkfest, but again he doesn?t look like he did in 1970...still plays pretty good though.) I dunno...this project will take some work...perhaps Ian Abrahams has some access to some photos from the past that could be used. Is he still here? Just my thoughts...didn?t want the idea to die without some stronger consideration... Keith H. (Karlsruhe, DE) P.S. Was Steve Bemand the "frontman" for TOSH at Hawkfest this year? You know, he?s not bad...in fact, TOSH was dangerously close to being every bit as good as Tim Blake?s Hawkwind the previous night. :) From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 23 13:34:24 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:34:24 +0100 Subject: Space Bandits here! Message-ID: waiting for me when I got home. Only had time to play bonus tracks and think Out of The Shadows is excellent and on first listening better than any other version released. Love Simon's violin. Disappointment - My interpretations of the lyrics to Images. Never felt the need to read them before as had my own take on what they were and what it was about (cheating death on the final day!) Now I've listened to and read lyrics I can't hear these words being sung. Seems to be extra words sung to those in the booklet. Oh well a few more listens in order. Off to the pub for a meal now. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 23 15:03:51 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:03:51 -0500 Subject: Space Bandits here! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/23/10, Steve Freight wrote: > > waiting for me when I got home. > Only had time to play bonus tracks and think Out of The Shadows is > excellent > and on first listening better than any other version released. Love Simon's > violin. > Disappointment - My interpretations of the lyrics to Images. Never felt the > need to read them before as had my own take on what they were and what it > was about (cheating death on the final day!) > Now I've listened to and read lyrics I can't hear these words being sung. > Seems to be extra words sung to those in the booklet. Oh well a few more > listens in order. > Off to the pub for a meal now. > Steve I for one am so glad the righteous Mr. Freight shared this.....for selfish reasons!!! I hope to GOD Mary read this before she left for the PT gigs, due to it's approach on lyrics......and if I may take my opportunity to "wax private" with Steve for a sec: Steve the 45 showed up the next day!!! I can't blame Swann!!! cosmic payback or will you take the fall??? It freaked him out and I know he's pissed!!!! hehehehe!!~! and that aside, may I "wax Porcupibe Tree" once again for a sec?? Could it be that the FIRST USA issue of "Sky Moves Sideways" on C & S records contains some alternate material to the first, as opposed to the 3rd issue which appears to break things into subdivisions??? It is all confusing!!!! also, I had no idea that I had indeed homed in on a quite collectible CD with Yellow Hedgerow. apperently NO plan to rerelease, and pirate copies in the market....I'm unconvinced that Steven thinks (the cross) is (all that) weak,,,,,,but then I march to my own drum and donlt care!!~!! From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Sep 23 15:15:10 2010 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:15:10 EDT Subject: Space Bandits here! Message-ID: I hear tell that the Widow Bruce is traveling south. Traveling with some hombre from up north from what I can reckon. Well this town ain't big enough for the 2 of us. Gonna have the boys saddle up the horses and head her off at the pass. Yee HAAA bill In a message dated 9/23/2010 3:04:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: As I said in my post regarding receiving Space Bandits I was surprised to see the real lyrics to Images. I have been accused of twisting lyrics with a song to fit what I hear but never the whole song before. The brain is a funny old thing and must just fill in lyrics that make sense to me. Perhaps the booklet explains it when Bridget had to do the song line by line and perhaps diction wasn?t the main thought in getting the song finished - I just don?t know. So before I lose all the lyrics I used to sing I thought I?d share them with you. Oh and I?m convinced I?ve heard Richard sing them too! Images, by Hawkwind, as b******ised by Steve Memories surround him Walking to the door Smells of dust and summer heat While ordering his thoughts *Clinging hands, the face of fate* *Shifting scenes I can?t explain* *The crazy fool, who sees this face* *As he tries to cheat life?s final fate*. Whispers from the balcony Lingers in the hall The well worn path of mortality Appearing here once more It?s cold now It?s dark now Twists the soul Turns flesh to stone The fear and the anger Of the dusk, all alone Endless dreams of wasted days Slowly fade away Laughter now oblitering There?s now need to stay -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 24 11:50:15 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:50:15 +0100 Subject: Images - Twisted Lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unless of course the lyrics in the booklet are there to mislead On 24 September 2010 16:45, Steve Freight wrote: > As I said in my post regarding receiving Space Bandits I was surprised to > see the real lyrics to Images. > > > > I have been accused of twisting lyrics with a song to fit what I hear but > never the whole song before. > > > > The brain is a funny old thing and must just fill in lyrics that make sense > to me. > > > > Perhaps the booklet explains it when Bridget had to do the song line by > line and perhaps diction wasn?t the main thought in getting the song > finished - I just don?t know. > > > > So before I lose all the lyrics I used to sing I thought I?d share them > with you. > > > > Oh and I?m convinced I?ve heard Richard sing them too! > > > > Images, by Hawkwind, as b******ised by Steve > > > > Memories surround him > > Walking to the door > > Smells of dust and summer heat > > While ordering his thoughts > > > > *Clinging hands, the face of fate* > > *Shifting scenes I can?t explain* > > *The crazy fool, who sees this face* > > *As he tries to cheat life?s final fate*. > > > > Whispers from the balcony > > Lingers in the hall > > The well worn path of mortality > > Appearing here once more > > > > It?s cold now > > It?s dark now > > Twists the soul > > Turns flesh to stone > > The fear and the anger > > Of the dusk, all alone > > > > Endless dreams of wasted days > > Slowly fade away > > Laughter now oblitering > > There?s now need to stay > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 25 20:04:18 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:04:18 -0500 Subject: birth of a spacerock trading sight Message-ID: Dear club members after more than 2 years or so I decided to learn how to work the buttons on the "approved" Hawkwind forum, and while it moves so fast it could give me a headache, I did manage to make a new friend in Munich, and in our inspiration for stuff (in my case the replacement for the other half), it seems that something portentially good may have come into being...... www.spacerocktrading.com I was told it would be a couple weeks in the making, but it looks like he already got it up. If anyone is so inclined please pass the word to the yahoo forum.... Mike