From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Sep 3 08:14:16 2010
From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 12:14:16 +0000
Subject: extremely high quality slide show of OEB performance on the Isle
of Wight ( and other bands as well )
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.121416.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
These are some the highest quality shots I have seen yet:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mychoonz/with/4950019302/
cheers! Mike
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 3 12:54:44 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:54:44 -0700
Subject: Interview with Dave Brock
Message-ID: <FRI.3.SEP.2010.095444.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://www.antimusic.com/morley/10/hawkwind.shtml
From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Sep 4 09:01:55 2010
From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 13:01:55 +0000
Subject: OEBs Hawkfest setlist: Isle if Wight 8/28/10
Message-ID: <SAT.4.SEP.2010.130155.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
One Eyed Bishops: Hawkfest 2010 setlist: Isle of Wight 8/28/10
Hymie The Winey Smokestack Lightning The Great White Buffalo ( I'm not your ) Stepping Stone Spinning Wheel Blues Ejection Shorty George>Matchbox> Shorty George,
Hurry On Sundown
Mike Burro : guitar vocals Phil Smith: electric lead guitars Ant : Saxophone Jeff Berry: Bass Tony McMillan : drums
From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Sep 4 12:43:12 2010
From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 12:43:12 -0400
Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Does Not Care Show
Message-ID: <SAT.4.SEP.2010.124312.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://Aural-Innovations.com
SEPTEMBER 4, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW
I've uploaded a new show from Space Does Not Care (show #27). See the
playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both
streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page
at:
http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html
Space Does Not Care (show #27)
<Chuck Rosenberg did a radio show dubbed "Space Does Not Care" from
1999-2003 at KUCR out of Riverside, CA, which streamed on-line for most of
that time. The format of the new online version of Space Does Not Care is
secured by Chuck under the umbrella of
Psych/Space/Kraut/Electro/Indie/Folk/Noise-rock.
A.M.P. - "Onehopesinuncertainty" (from Astralmoonbeamprojections - Kranky)
CHUCK SPEAKS
XU XU FANG - "March/Xu Xu Fang/Boone at Richie's/KMW" (from Los Angeles
During the Winter of '99 - Cowboy Small's Sound
Ranch)
BARRY ADAMSON - "Goddess of Love/Jazz Devil" (from As Above So Below - Mute)
DAVID LYNCH - "Pink Room Mix" (from radio mix)
CHUCK SPEAKS
SPIRITS BURNING - "Drive-By Poetry/Bird Swarmy Loop/Gods at the Top of the
World" (from Reflections in a Radio Shower -
Gazul)
RICHARD HARRIS/Kahlil Gibran - "On Love" (from The Prophet - Collector's
Choice)
SONIC ARCANA - "Syrinx" (from Past Echoes)
SCREEN VINYL IMAGE - "New Visions" (from Ice Station EP - Fan Death)
QUARKSPACE - "Air" (from Live Orion - Eternity'sJest)
CHUCK SPEAKS
WISTERIAX - "The Ocean's Marrow" (from V/A What's Up Mutants? Volume II)
ELTON JUNK - "Again In The Room" (from What's Up Mutants? Volume II)
TIM MUNGENAST - "Candles" (from What's Up Mutants? Volume II)
FIFTY FOOT HOSE - "Red The Sign Post" (from Cauldron - Radioactive)
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - "Cloud Song" (from ST'd)
FLOWCHART - "Icicles And Clipboards" (from Cumulus Mood Twang - Carrot Top)
CHUCK SPEAKS
A Memorial and Tribute to Tony Dale and Camera Obscura Records
SALAMANDER - "Black Heart" (from Red Ampersand)
SIX ORGANS OF ADMITTANCE - "Hermitage Song" (from V/A Serotonin Ronin II)
GREEN PAJAMAS - "Song For Christina/A Nightmare" (from Serotonin Ronin II)
VORTEX NAVIGATION CO - "The Welcoming River" (from Serotonin Ronin II)
DOLDRUMS - "Mahatma Wants His Rice Back" (from Serotonin Ronin II)
UNITED BIBLE STUDIES - "Skelly's Fireplace" (from The Jonah)
FELL - "As I Ran" (from Incoherent Lullabies)
SALAMANDER - "Vessel Is Vacant" (from Birds of Appetite)
CHUCK SPEAKS
ABUNAI! - "Toast" (from The Mystic River Sound)
http://Aural-Innovations.com
From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 5 17:22:42 2010
From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:22:42 +0100
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=mvd+NLG2PVjU=KwJXXctE=ZH3-CyM2DDSfweb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.5.SEP.2010.222242.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Owen O'Neill wrote:
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-13268-10.html
That is pretty apposite when viewed through the HW lens innit?
I'll see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html
Also, you may notice that after some repeated problems with my normal
address I'm now posting from a different one. Please don't address-book
this address, it's not filtered. Thanks, and sorry if I missed anything
good while inadvertantly signed off, yours,
Jon
ObCD: Scottish National Orchestra under Neeme J?rvi - _Prokofiev:
Lieutenant Kij? - Suite rom 'The Stone Flower' - Autumnal - Andante (Op.
50bis) - Dreams_
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 5 22:13:25 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Illumisnotty B)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 21:13:25 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1009052218480.7632@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <SUN.5.SEP.2010.211325.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Wow being a migrainer back then must have been almost as bad the modern era
where opiates (or anything good) are so tightly contolled-
however, little much for a fashion statement (on these) if you ask me,
without a role model....
http://www.viewzone.com/peruskull.html
On 9/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at coriolis.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010, Owen O'Neill wrote:
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-13268-10.html
>>
>
> That is pretty apposite when viewed through the HW lens innit? I'll
> see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation:
>
>
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html
>
> Also, you may notice that after some repeated problems with my normal
> address I'm now posting from a different one. Please don't address-book this
> address, it's not filtered. Thanks, and sorry if I missed anything good
> while inadvertantly signed off, yours,
> Jon
>
> ObCD: Scottish National Orchestra under Neeme J?rvi - _Prokofiev:
> Lieutenant Kij? - Suite rom 'The Stone Flower' - Autumnal - Andante (Op.
> 50bis) - Dreams_
> --
> Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
> =======================================================================
> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly
> opposite"
> -Robert Anton Wilson
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 5 23:19:01 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:19:01 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1009052218480.7632@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <SUN.5.SEP.2010.221901.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at coriolis.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
> (polite trim)
> I'll see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation:
>
>
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html
> (another polite trim)
Dear Jon, thanks for teaching me 2 new words, I hope I can remember them,
and I am curious- are the TOOLS the new thing? which I am guessing they are,
because the surgery on the skulls is AAAAAAANcient news!~!!
just checking!!
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 5 23:33:05 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 22:33:05 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim3gsUj72rOXXjyEYvCvVh-nscLZbzx9BwBMqWY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.5.SEP.2010.223305.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I sorry, I call BS of some kind of the author of this article-
I have known of ancient skulls haviing SURGICAL HOLES (not
rectangle) pointing to SURGERY on them since my voice was still squeaky, and
I am now 45
Let me at him!!!!!
I HATE the scientific community!!!
RERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
On 9/5/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 9/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at coriolis.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> (polite trim)
>> I'll see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation:
>>
>>
>> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html
>> (another polite trim)
>
>
> Dear Jon, thanks for teaching me 2 new words, I hope I can remember them,
> and I am curious- are the TOOLS the new thing? which I am guessing they are,
> because the surgery on the skulls is AAAAAAANcient news!~!!
> just checking!!
>
>
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 6 01:48:45 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:48:45 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTint2L=LdfErimA03tKAbiwOXM6CJpjDHZub68MU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.004845.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
wearing dunce cap
apology Jon
it's the rectangles that are alleged to be more sophisticated.
I still hate the scientific community, especially the likes of the one used
by American public televison who thinks the use of British accents is
imperative.....
On 9/5/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I sorry, I call BS of some kind of the author of this article-
> I have known of ancient skulls haviing SURGICAL HOLES (not
> rectangle) pointing to SURGERY on them since my voice was still squeaky, and
> I am now 45
> Let me at him!!!!!
> I HATE the scientific community!!!
> RERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>
> On 9/5/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at coriolis.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> (polite trim)
>>> I'll see that and raise you some new data on Trepanation:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20727750.200-ikiztepe-archaeologist-bronze-age-brain-surgery.html
>>> (another polite trim)
>>
>>
>> Dear Jon, thanks for teaching me 2 new words, I hope I can remember them,
>> and I am curious- are the TOOLS the new thing? which I am guessing they are,
>> because the surgery on the skulls is AAAAAAANcient news!~!!
>> just checking!!
>>
>>
>>
>
>
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Sep 6 08:22:33 2010
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:22:33 -0400
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=ckoVe=zngwWkDkQPfp4W+3HzW+h5Z2nbmDs3D@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.082233.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Sep 6, 2010, at 1:48 AM, mike coleman wrote:
> I still hate the scientific community, especially the likes of the one used
> by American public televison who thinks the use of British accents is
> imperative.....
To be fair, that is because lots of the programming is imported from Britain, on account of the USA not exactly being voluminous in the production of non-true crime related scientific factual programmes. :-)
As a transplanted Brit, I have to admit to it being jarring watching what, to me, is _Horizon_ (called _NOVA_ over here), yet hearing the narration in an American accent. So, I guess the accent imperative is not universal, yet.
You have to admit Alan Alda has a terrible British accent in _Scientific American Frontiers_, not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson's in _NOVA ScienceNOW_. They mustn't have received the memo, yet... :-)
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: Genesis, "Supper's Ready"
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 6 08:52:23 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 07:52:23 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <D949FE8D-B039-4763-8D8E-CE4EDEC3E72E@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.075223.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/6/10, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 1:48 AM, mike coleman wrote:
>
> > I still hate the scientific community, especially the likes of the one
> used
> > by American public televison who thinks the use of British accents is
> > imperative.....
>
> To be fair, that is because lots of the programming is imported from
> Britain, on account of the USA not exactly being
voluminous in the production of non-true crime related scientific factual
> programmes. :-)
hehehe
yes yes help me destroy america as it is now known...this reason, that
reason,,,,i
> As a transplanted Brit, I have to admit to it being jarring watching what,
> to me, is _Horizon_ (called _NOVA_ over here), yet hearing the narration in
> an American accent. So, I guess the accent imperative is not universal,
> yet.
I won't go where UFO's seldom go (if ever, anymore?).....glad to have
another reason not to watch it
You have to admit Alan Alda has a terrible British accent in _Scientific
> American Frontiers_, not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson's in _NOVA
> ScienceNOW_. They mustn't have received the memo, yet... :-)
Yes I allowed myself to hear him in some show about competing young
engineers racing lightweight peddle boat-submarines....I can't BELIEVE I
stayed on the channel,.,,,,his voice makes me want to attack
Cheers, INDEDED.....hehehe thanks!!! sincerely,,,,,!!!!
>
> Paul.
>
> NP: Genesis, "Supper's Ready"
>
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Sep 6 09:17:23 2010
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:17:23 -0400
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_GZKT_=DBiMXmsFpykqA0EMLPJTRc3keodcPM@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.091723.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Sep 6, 2010, at 8:52 AM, mike coleman wrote:
> On 9/6/10, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu> wrote:
>> As a transplanted Brit, I have to admit to it being jarring watching what,
>> to me, is _Horizon_ (called _NOVA_ over here), yet hearing the narration in
>> an American accent. So, I guess the accent imperative is not universal,
>> yet.
>
>
> I won't go where UFO's seldom go (if ever, anymore?).....glad to have
> another reason not to watch it
I have to admit that I am generally disappointed with both NOVA and Horizon these days, mainly because the contemporary shows are dumbed down a lot from those made in halcyon years gone by. :-(
> You have to admit Alan Alda has a terrible British accent in _Scientific
>> American Frontiers_, not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson's in _NOVA
>> ScienceNOW_. They mustn't have received the memo, yet... :-)
>
>
> Yes I allowed myself to hear him in some show about competing young
> engineers racing lightweight peddle boat-submarines....I can't BELIEVE I
> stayed on the channel,.,,,,his voice makes me want to attack
In a weird synchronicity, one of the teams of "young engineers" in that show was one from here at Virginia Tech! They happened to have a booth at the start of year street party shindig they have here and I happened to mention the show appearance to one of the people manning the booth---on account of my having seen the programme just days before---only to be met by blank stares. It was then that I realised one of the big shortcomings of _Scientific American Frontiers_: the series is years old (not good for a science frontiers show), and that episode was probably made long before any of these folks ever came to Tech.
Still, we'll have to agree to disagree on Alan Alda in the programme. I love the enthusiastic gusto with which he throws himself into the episodes; it's rather refreshing. Plus, don't the treason laws on the books have some section about it being considered sedition to openly dislike anything with Hawkeye Pierce in it? ;-)
Toodle-pip old chum,
Paul.
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 6 09:47:43 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:47:43 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <2859770E-DE44-48CD-A9C0-9D94918054E7@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.084743.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Paul......so I see "nature" disclosed it was the Alan Alda show that I
watched and I have always HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATED MASH, and iI just
cannot stand his accent being a Texan.......but I will give you this (and
yes I am aware that 9 out of 10 cornfed americans LOVE MASH), that he did ok
on that show.......he's a good man for sure....just gets on my nerves as
does allowing the televison to be on much does inately.....don't care (much)
what human beings think, do and spew......please stop them reproducing to a
much lower degree....
I am pleased that you know what I mean about the ghost of Nova/Horizons
"past", and that my assumption still holds water, because I have not tuned
Nova in since long before hair started showing up in the "bad" places.....
So Paul did you happen to see whatever show it was on the lightweight plane
desings that base themselves on insect-wing propulsion?? (and birds) That
one was kinda fun......and I remembered having a flapping bird-plane in the
(late) 60's!!! and apperently the man who has the best design on that won't
allow it in the market...yet
Buts seriously, Jon taught me new words and this taught me things I needed
to know, and I am grateful, and also honest-
I cannot figure out what you were saying in the explanation of americans
using shows with British accents- It seemed like you were "taking the piss",
but to my 11-grade drop-out, weathered by drug use, aging mind, it confuses
me!!!!
still trying to solve it......in fairness to me I just woke
up.....unfortunately.....
Superb that you saw the same show I did...mental note it is outdated
outdated
also. I take it as given that we (americans) generally LOVE British accents,
it just gets annoying when I feel like a decison has been made that I will
more readily accept what I am being brainwashed with if it is British!!!
On 9/6/10, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2010, at 8:52 AM, mike coleman wrote:
>
> > On 9/6/10, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu> wrote:
> >> As a transplanted Brit, I have to admit to it being jarring watching
> what,
> >> to me, is _Horizon_ (called _NOVA_ over here), yet hearing the narration
> in
> >> an American accent. So, I guess the accent imperative is not universal,
> >> yet.
> >
> >
> > I won't go where UFO's seldom go (if ever, anymore?).....glad to have
> > another reason not to watch it
>
> I have to admit that I am generally disappointed with both NOVA and Horizon
> these days, mainly because the contemporary shows are dumbed down a lot from
> those made in halcyon years gone by. :-(
>
> > You have to admit Alan Alda has a terrible British accent in _Scientific
> >> American Frontiers_, not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson's in _NOVA
> >> ScienceNOW_. They mustn't have received the memo, yet... :-)
> >
> >
> > Yes I allowed myself to hear him in some show about competing young
> > engineers racing lightweight peddle boat-submarines....I can't BELIEVE I
> > stayed on the channel,.,,,,his voice makes me want to attack
>
> In a weird synchronicity, one of the teams of "young engineers" in that
> show was one from here at Virginia Tech! They happened to have a booth at
> the start of year street party shindig they have here and I happened to
> mention the show appearance to one of the people manning the booth---on
> account of my having seen the programme just days before---only to be met by
> blank stares. It was then that I realised one of the big shortcomings of
> _Scientific American Frontiers_: the series is years old (not good for a
> science frontiers show), and that episode was probably made long before any
> of these folks ever came to Tech.
>
> Still, we'll have to agree to disagree on Alan Alda in the programme. I
> love the enthusiastic gusto with which he throws himself into the episodes;
> it's rather refreshing. Plus, don't the treason laws on the books have some
> section about it being considered sedition to openly dislike anything with
> Hawkeye Pierce in it? ;-)
>
> Toodle-pip old chum,
>
> Paul.
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 6 11:57:28 2010
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 10:57:28 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <2859770E-DE44-48CD-A9C0-9D94918054E7@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.105728.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 06 Sep 2010, at 08:17 , Paul Mather wrote:
> I have to admit that I am generally disappointed with both NOVA and Horizon these days, mainly because the contemporary shows are dumbed down a lot from those made in halcyon years gone by. :-(
Oh, OK, it's not just me thinking that, then .... :P
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 6 12:15:22 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:15:22 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <CBB53654-709F-47A7-A63A-37156389B58E@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.111522.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Just a friendly reminder-
I don't consider music fans on this forum "the general" public, and my heaps
of negative energy could be much more readily understood when living on my
block
I am honored beyond words to be here with so many of you fellow "wise
heads", in all of the interpretations that can mean
and I still have the dunce cap on......I'm fair
wonder if Trev has recovered from Krankshaft headling the fest??
On 9/6/10, Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at carlaz.com> wrote:
>
> On 06 Sep 2010, at 08:17 , Paul Mather wrote:
> > I have to admit that I am generally disappointed with both NOVA and
> Horizon these days, mainly because the contemporary shows are dumbed down a
> lot from those made in halcyon years gone by. :-(
>
> Oh, OK, it's not just me thinking that, then .... :P
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 6 18:52:40 2010
From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (Elipxr5)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 18:52:40 -0400
Subject: Fwd: [Hawkwind] Re: [Spam] Re: 2nd hand Space Rock,
progressive,fusion and Canterbury CDs for sale (new list)
In-Reply-To: <8CD0AE29824EEAB-414-7E73@webmail-m070.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <MON.6.SEP.2010.185240.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi. Here's a list of some Canterbury, Progressive Rock, fusion and Space Rock CD's from my collection that I'm parting with. There are some cool rare Monster Magnet CDs added to the space rock list. All CDs are in very good to excellent condition. CD's are 8 US dollars each plus the cost of shipping, except for a few listings that have other prices specified. Within the US I usually ship by priority mail for 5 dollars Please contact me at EliPXR5 at aol.com so I can let you know that the CD you want is still available. Payments can be made by Paypal, or US Postal money orders. Thanks in advance for any interest.
Band-Title-Label
Space Rock, Krautrock, and Psychedelic
Architectural Metaphor - Other Music - Kairos Music
Ashra-(Untitled) Live In Japan 1998-Think Progressive
Atom God-History Rewritten-Progressive
Paul Chain-Sign From Space-Beard of Stars
Cluster-First Encounter Tour 1996- Purple Pyramid-includes Rare live track by The Brain with Tommy Grenas
Cluster-Japan 1998 Live-Soul
Holger Czukay-Moving Pictures-Purple Pyramid
Dead Flowers-Moontan-Mystic Stones Rare
The Falcon Project Presents-The Revenge of Sonic Soular-Idol
Larry Fast-Synergy-Third Contact
Five Fifteen - I Don't Remember - Record Heaven CD Sinle plus 3 bonus tracks includes Games Of May and Whipping Post
Five Fifteen - Innocence Is No Excuse - Record heaven CD Single with 2 bonus covers Baba O'Riley and 5:15
Five Fifteen - Six Dimensions Of The Electric Camembert - Record Heaven
Five Fifteen- My Oh My - Record Heaven Music 4 song EP digipac
Five Fifteen - Silver Machine - Record Heaven CD EP with 4 tracks plus guests Nik Turner and Brian Robertson
Five Fifteen - Six Dimensions Of The Electric Camembert - Record Heaven
Five Fifteen - Stone Cold Heartbreaker - Record Heaven - 4 song EP digipac includes Nik Turner guesting on Hassan I Sahba cover
Gormenghast (A Fantasy Opera by Irmin Schmidt of CAN) - Spoon Records
Judge Trev's Inner City Unit-Now You Know The Score- Judgement Records
Krom Lek-Collective Conscious-Stone Premonitions
Krom Lek-Psychedelic Dot Krom-Stone Premonitions
Man-First Self Titled "Man"-Point
Mandragora-Earthdance-Mystic Stones includes Niall Hone of Hawkwind on 2 tracks
Mr. Quimby's Beard - The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of-Stone Premonitions
Mr. Quimby's Beard - Shrouded In Mystery Live 2001 - Freaky Fungi
Monster Magnet - Dave Wyndorf Interviewed by Sean Yseult - A & M - promo digipac included Bill Laswell "orb" track $10.00
Monster Magnet - Dopes To Infinity - A & M
Monster Magnet - Fuel From Powertrip - A & M - Promo sampler CD 5 tracks card cover $10.00
Monster Magnet - Heads Explode - A & M - 3 audio tracks plus video for Heads Explode $10.00
Monster Magnet - Monolithic Baby - SPV - Deluxe Digipac with Bonus DVD $12.00
Monster Magnet - Negasonic Teenage Warhead - A & M Record - 3 song promo digipac EP
Monster Magnet - Silver Future - Heavy Metal 2000 - Restless - One track single in jewel box with Bisley cover
Monster Magnet - Space Lord Plus 3 - A & M - 4 track card cover promo EP
Nukli - The Time Factory-Delerium
Klaus Schulze - Dune - Thunderbolt - guest vocals Arthur Brown
Soma-Dreamtime-Beard of Stars
Soma-Epsilopn - Rune
Jazz Fusion
A Guitar Supreme - Mike Stern, Eric Johnson, Larry Coryell, Greg Howe, Steve Lukather, Frank Gambale, Jeff Richman - Tone Center
John Abercrombie - Timeless - ECM - with Jan Hammer and Jack deJohnette
Gregg Bendian's Interzone - Requiem for Jack Kirby - Atavistic
Billy Cobham - Alivemutherforya - Sony - with Steve Khan, Alphonso Johnson, and Tom Scott
Billy Cobham - Live - Flight Time - Inakustik
Billy Cobham - Mississippi Knights - Network International Records
Billy Cobham - Shabazz - Recorded Live in Europe - Wounded Bird Records
Billy Cobham - Spectrum - Atlantic
Billy Cobham - Total Eclipse - Wounded Bird Records
The Billy Cobham - George Duke Band - "Live" On Tour In Europe - Wounded Bird Records - with Alphonso Johnson, John Scofield
Karl Denson's Tiny Universe - The Bridge - Relaxed Records
Al DiMeola - John McLaughlin - Paco DeLucia - Friday Night In San Francisco - Columbia / Legacy
Jimmy Herring - T Lavitz - Richie Hayward - Kenny Gradney- Endangered Species - Tone Center
Bon Lozaga - Bon - Full Circle, Coming Home - LoLo Records - with Hansford Rowe and Vic Stevens
Bon Lozaga - Bon - To The Bone - LoLo Records - with Hansford Rowe, Vic Stevens, David Torn, Geno White
Bon Lozaga - Project Lo - Black Canvas - LoLo Records - with Jim Loretangeli, Percy Jones, Pierre Moerlen, Vic Stevens
Bon Lozaga - Project Lo - Dabblings In Darkness - LoLo Records - with Jim Loretangeli, Percy Jones, Pierre Moerlen, Vic Stevens
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Apocalypse - Columbia / Legacy
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Between Nothingness and Eternity - Columbia
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire - Columbia / Legacy
Mahavishnu Orchestra / John McLaughlin - Inner Worlds - Columbia / Legacy
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Mahavishnu - Wounded Bird
Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame - Columbia / Legacy
Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Lost Trident Sessions - Columbia / Legacy
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Visions of the Emerald Beyond - Columbia / Legacy
Return To Forever - Return To The Seventh Galaxy - The Anthology - Verve - 2CD jewel box in translucent plastic slipcase
Hansford Rowe - No Other - LoLo Records - with Bon Lozaga, David Fiuczynski, Happy Rhodes
Shakti with John Mclaughlin - Columbia / Legacy
Shakti with John Mclaughlin - A Handful Of Beauty - Sony Japan
Shakti with John Mclaughlin - Natural Elements - Sony Japan
David Torn, Chris Massey, David Castiglione - Forever Sharp and Vivid - LoLo Records
Yo Miles - Henry Kaiser and Wadada Leo Smith - Shanachie
Yo Miles - Henry Kaiser and Wadada Leo Smith - Sky Garden - Cuneiform Records 2 CD set
Yo Miles - Henry Kaiser and Wadada Leo Smith - Upriver - Cuneiform Records 2 CD set
Canterbury-ish
Kevin Ayers and the Whole World - Hyde Park Free Concert 1970 - Reel Recordings - Digipac
Camel - A Compact Compilation - Rhino
Camel - A Live Record - Decca - 2CD - $12.00
Camel - The Paris Collection - Camel productions
Colosseum II - Strange New Flesh - Catle - 2 CD- $10.00
Gongzilla - East Village Sessions - LoLo Records
Gongzilla - Live - LoLo Records
Gongzilla - Suffer - Lolo Records - with Allan Holdsworth
Gongzilla - Gongzilla - Thrive - LoLo Records
Matching Mole - Smoke Signals - Cuneiform
Steve Miller Trio Meets Elton Dean - Reel Recordings - Digipac
National Health - Missing Pieces - ESD
National Health - Playtime - Cuneiform
Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Breakthrough - ARC Music
Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Downwind - Arista
Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Expresso II - Virgin
Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Live - Great Expectations
Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Time Is The Key - Arista
Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Second Wind - Line Records
Pip Pyle's Bash! - Belle Illusion - Cuneiform
Soft Heap - Al Dente - Reel Recordings - Digipac
Soft Machine - Backwards - Cuneiform
Soft Machine - Noisette - Cuneiform
Soft Machine - Third - Plus Live At The Royal Albert Hall on BBC Aug. 13, 1970 Bonus CD - Sony/BMG Special Remaster $10.00
Soft Machine Legacy - Steam - Moonjune - Digipac
Progressive and misc.
Jon Anderson - Deseo - BMG
Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - Brother of Mine - Arista - Promo CD Single 2 versions
Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - An Evening Of Yes Music Plus - Herald - 2 CD set $10.00
Amorphis - Am Universum - RCA Victor Japan
Amorphis-Tuonela-Relapse
Asia - Enso Kai - Burning Airlines
Ayreon-Flight of the Navigators - Century Media
BPM & M - Xtrakts & Arifakcts - Papa Bear Records - Pat Mastelotto, Bill Munyon, Robert Fripp, Tony Levin
Bruford Levin Upper Extremities - Blue Nights - Papa Bear Records
Les Claypool's Frog Brigade - Live Frogs Set One - Prawn Song - includes covers of Theela Hun Ginjeet and Shine On You Crazy Diamond
Les Claypool's Frog Brigade - Live Frogs Set Two - Prawn Song - Pink Floyd's Animals cover album
Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt.2 - Scenes From A Memory - Elektra
Dream Theater - Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence - Elektra Records
Dream Theater - Through Her Eyes - Elektra - single plus 40 minutes live unreleased
Emerson Lake and Palmer - Then and Now - Eagle - 2 CD set $10.00
Flower Kings - Alive On Planet Earth - Century Media 2 CD $12.00
Steve Hackett - Feedback86 - Camino Records - Enhanced CD In Cardboard Slip Case
Steve Hackett - To Watch The Storms - SPV/InsideOut- Special Ltd. Edition In Deluxe Hardcover Booklet with Slipcase $10.00
IQ - Ever - SPV / Inside Out
Iluvater-A Story Two Days Wide-Kinesis
Jadis - Fanatic - Inside Out / Spv
Jethro Tull - Caught In The Crossfire -Live In St. Louis 10/26/80- Genschman Records
King Black Acid-Loves A Long Song-Cavity Search
Greg Lake - Live - EMI Capitol
Liquid Tension Experiment - Magna Carta
Liquid Tension Experiment 2 - Magna Carta
Phil Manzanera - 801 - Listen Now - Expression
Phil Manzanera - 801 - Live - Virgin - Booklet signed by Phil Manzanera $10.00
Marillion - Unplugged At The Walls - Racket Records 2CD set $10.00
Scott McGill, Michael Manring, and Vic Stevens-Addition by Subtraction-Free Electric Sound with Jordan Rudess
Mellonova-Mellonova-Aporia
Nektar - A Tab In The Ocean - Eclectic
Nektar - Door To The Future - The Light Show Tapes Volume 1 - Eclectic
Nektar - Down To Earth - Eclectic
Nektar - Evolution - Eclectic
Nektar - Greatest Hits Live - Classic Rock Productions - 2 CD set $12.00
Nektar - Journey To The Center Of The Eye - Eclectic
Nektar - Live In New York - Eclectic - 2CD In Nice digipac $12.00
Nektar - Magic Is A Child - Eclectic
Nektar - Recycled - Eclectic
Nektar - Remember The Future
Nektar - Sunday Night At The London Roundhouse - Bellaphon - single CD edition
Nektar - Sunday Night At The London Roundhouse - Bellaphon - 2CD set $12.00
Nektar - The Prodigal Son - Bellaphon
Nektar - Unidentified Flying Abstract - Live At Chipping Norton 1974 - Bellaphon
OSI - Office Of Strategic Influence - Avalon Japanese - Deluxe Bonus Tracks Edition
Pendragon-The Masquerade Overture-Snapper Classics-DigiPack
PFM - A Celebration - Snapper/Recall 2CD set $12.00
PFM - Jet Lag - RCA
PFM - The World Became The World - BMG
PFM + Pagani - Piazza Del Campo - Aerostella/Sony Music 2 Disc Set (CD and PAL DVD) Official Live Show Release
Progday - Kinections - The Progday Support Cd - Strawbs, The Muffins, Djam Karet, Wobbler, Guy Manning, Nathan Mahl, Sonus Umbra
Qango - Live In The Hood - John Wetton, Carl Palmer, John Young, Dave Kilminster - Manticore
Spock's Beard - Day For Night - Metal Blade/Radiant
Spock's Beard - Don't Try This At Home - Metal Blade/Radiant
Spock's Beard - Snow - SPV/ Inside Out - Deluxe 3CD Box Set in Cardboard Box - Limited Edition - $16.00
Spock's Beard - V - SPV / Inside Out - Deluxe Limited Edition in Digipac with Media Track
Strawbs - The Best of - The Millenium Collection - A & M
The Tangent - ii(.v) :pyramids and stars - live official bootleg 3/11/04 - Progjamn- Very Limited $10.00
The Tangent - A Place In The Queue - SPV / Inside Out - Limited First Edition 2 CD set in digipac
The Tangent - The Music That Died Alone - SPV / Inside Out SlipCase Edition $10.00
Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever - SPV/InsideOut - Limited 2CD with enhanced Bonus CD in Deluxe Hardcover Booklet $15.00
Transatlantic - Live In America - SPV/InsideOut - 2CD set $12.00
Transatlantic - SMPTE - Metal Blade/Radiant Records
Umphrey's Mcgee - Anchor Drops - Sci Fidelity Records gatefold digipac
Van Der Graaf Generator - Present - Virgin 2CD edition $12.00
Vandertop - Best On Tour 76 - Utopic Records - Jannick Top, Christian Vander, Didier Lockwood, Klaus Blasquiz
Miroslav Vitous - Universal Syncopations - Jan Garbarek, Chick Corea, John Mclaughlin, Jack DeJohnette - ECM cardboard slipcase
Rick Wakeman - Journey To The Center Of The Earth - A & M
Rick Wakeman - Return To The Center Of The Earth - EMI Classics
Wakeman and Cousins - Hummingbird - Morada Music/ Witchwood Media
Wakeman and Cousins - Live - From The Witchwood Media Archives Series Vol.1 - Witchwood Media/Pinnacle
John Wetton - Sub Rosa - Live In Milan July 5, 1998 - Blueprint
Yes - I Would Have Waited Forever - Arista - Promo CD Single
Yes - Lift Me Up - Arista - Promo CD Single
Yes - Talk - Victory Music
Yes - The Ladder - RCA Victor Japan - with extra bonus mini CD "I've Seen All Good People" and "And You And I" Live Versions
Yes - Union - Arista
Symphonic Music Of Yes - RCA Victor - London Philharmonic conducted by Alan Parsons with Anderson, Bruford, and Howe
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 8 09:31:02 2010
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:31:02 +0100
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
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From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Sep 8 09:57:05 2010
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:57:05 -0400
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <201009081331.o88DV2sV003108@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
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On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:31 AM, M Holmes wrote:
> Looks like I don't have the only copy of the Brian Matthews Show with
> Silver Machine and Brainstorm after all. I am indebted to Mr Coleman for
> alerting me to Ebay Item 270627294078
So is the "A Presented Show" side of the LP the side that includes "Silver Machine" and the other side of the LP ("No Presentation") the one that includes "Brainstorm" (and the Paul McCartney interview)? Is this the only Hawkwind material on the LP? Is it stereo or mono?
Cheers,
Paul.
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 8 11:48:15 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:48:15 -0500
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <201009081331.o88DV2sV003108@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
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I'd word this slightly different, I'd say -
"Looks like that (expletive-slang-4-crazy-eBay-seller) doesn't have the only
copy of 406 after all"
I'd be tempted to send him a label-pic with just the note "mine's mint".
On 9/8/10, M Holmes <fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Looks like I don't have the only copy of the Brian Matthews Show with
> Silver Machine and Brainstorm after all. I am indebted to Mr Coleman for
> alerting me to Ebay Item 270627294078
>
> Interesting price though. I bet a Beatles/Wings fan paid that.
>
> FoFP
>
>
> --
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 8 13:46:33 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:46:33 -0500
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <70CD1685-C72B-4679-A5EB-614A5D368B80@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
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On 9/8/10, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:31 AM, M Holmes wrote:
>
> So is the "A Presented Show" side of the LP the side that includes "Silver
> Machine" and the other side of the LP ("No Presentation") the one that
> includes "Brainstorm" (and the Paul McCartney interview)? Is this the only
> Hawkwind material on the LP? Is it stereo or mono?
> Cheers,
> Paul.
>
Maybe Mike got busy at the desk, but I'd hazzard a guess that you are
correct on all accounts but I know you defintely are about it being mono-
While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey of
"how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,,this item
gets my special attention because in my opinion if there is such a thing as
"hitting the jackpot" this is it....
Despite the recent CD release likely knocking the value back down a tad in
the HW circles, I'd say going on the pulse of the economical situatiuon and
the way people are not spending, I'd put the actual value at $2000.00+
USA.......
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 8 14:01:10 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 13:01:10 -0500
Subject: take me to your captain
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.130110.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
RIZZ
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 8 20:56:12 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:56:12 -0400
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=xNecv1v+9oo6v37jFm-1w+nBScaiM_rd50Pyj@mail.gmail.com>
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"While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey of
"how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", How
true, but sometimes, insanity's fun.
Mary
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Subject: Re: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
On 9/8/10, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:31 AM, M Holmes wrote:
>
> So is the "A Presented Show" side of the LP the side that includes
> "Silver Machine" and the other side of the LP ("No Presentation") the
> one that includes "Brainstorm" (and the Paul McCartney interview)? Is
> this the only Hawkwind material on the LP? Is it stereo or mono?
> Cheers,
> Paul.
>
Maybe Mike got busy at the desk, but I'd hazzard a guess that you are
correct on all accounts but I know you defintely are about it being mono-
While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey of
"how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,,this item
gets my special attention because in my opinion if there is such a thing as
"hitting the jackpot" this is it....
Despite the recent CD release likely knocking the value back down a tad in
the HW circles, I'd say going on the pulse of the economical situatiuon and
the way people are not spending, I'd put the actual value at $2000.00+
USA.......
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 8 21:06:19 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:06:19 -0500
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <2BB45851F4A64EBCB634C707563E9246@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <WED.8.SEP.2010.200619.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey
> of
> "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", How
> true, but sometimes, insanity's fun.
> Mary
and a wifestyle
got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun without
it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW when I
only have 2??
From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Sep 9 04:23:49 2010
From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 04:23:49 -0400
Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Astral Visions Radio Show
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.042349.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://Aural-Innovations.com
SEPTEMBER 9, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW
I've uploaded a new show from Astral Visions Radio (show #7). See the
playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both
streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page
at:
http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html
Astral Visions Radio (show #7)
Astral Visions Radio Show - Music from Psychotropic Zone, is hosted by DJ
Astro
Dungen - "Brallor" (from Skit I Allt)
Sabbath Assembly - "Judge of Mankind" (from Hymn of the Consecration)
Mugstar - "Paradox" (from In Search of Hawkwind)
Electric Moon - "Gefaehrliche Planetengirls" (from Lunatics)
The Re-Stoned - "Bells" (from Revealed Gravitation)
The Kings of Frog Island - "Glebe Street Whores" (from III)
Serpentina Satelite - " Sangre de Grado " (from Mecanica Celeste)
Sun Dial - "Storm Coming" (from Promo EP)
Aron - "Six Brides of the Forest" (from Testament from the Human Plantation)
Psi Corps - "Valley of Garnath - The Battle" (from All Roads Lead to Amber)
K-X-P - "Labirynth" (from S/T)
Cranium Pie - "Mothership" (from Rememberrr/Mothership 7")
Harvey Bainbridge - "Fatima's Hand" (from Dreams, Omens & Strange
Encounters)
The Higher Craft - "Inner Realm" (from Oracle XIV - Gateway EP)
Hypnos 69 - "An Aerial Architect" (from Legacy)
My Brother The Wind - "Electric Universe" (from In The Crystal Cabinet)
http://Aural-Innovations.com
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 9 05:19:07 2010
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:19:07 +0100
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwL3VZpCDXqOJFMPPW8O9cCOzHBQwNqahR7E1Y@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey Mike,
You mean you don't have
- the limited edition 9 x 7" singles box set release of the album with
one track per side
- the limited edition ship shaped usb stick
- limited edition HW logo shaped usb stick
- limited edition Ipod edition with all HW tracks included.
- limited edition double LP picture discs
- limited edition LP in all the colours of the rainbow (one of each
colour plus a multi coloured one)
- audio DVD edition
Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure Porcupine
Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one reason I gave up
collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!).
Hope I have not put marketing thoughts in anyone's mind though.
Steve
On 9 September 2010 02:06, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding journey
> > of
> > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", How
> > true, but sometimes, insanity's fun.
> > Mary
>
>
>
>
> and a wifestyle
> got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun without
> it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW when I
> only have 2??
>
>
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 9 05:54:13 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 04:54:13 -0500
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikWG2w+Rj4GmUdVQmMLLsru0AqaY6OQCU=CiqTG@mail.gmail.com>
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Oh even Dave won't get that kind of blood out of an
anti-technological-turnip!!!
and geting old has it's perks doesn't it!! in some cases getting poorer can
also mean wiser!!!
but I really think Mary should do something about Yellow Hedgerow , we just
spoke.....and I was correct.....
and Yes at last look Wilson appeared fearsomely dangerous in his marketing
stragtegies...
hehehe, good read at near 5 am!!
I wonder if the original "Radioactive Toy" "radio promo" is worth much
now.......still have (1of) that....
On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> You mean you don't have
>
> - the limited edition 9 x 7" singles box set release of the album with
> one track per side
> - the limited edition ship shaped usb stick
> - limited edition HW logo shaped usb stick
> - limited edition Ipod edition with all HW tracks included.
> - limited edition double LP picture discs
> - limited edition LP in all the colours of the rainbow (one of each
> colour plus a multi coloured one)
> - audio DVD edition
>
>
> Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure Porcupine
> Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one reason I gave up
> collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!).
>
> Hope I have not put marketing thoughts in anyone's mind though.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 9 September 2010 02:06, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding
> journey
> > > of
> > > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,", How
> > > true, but sometimes, insanity's fun.
> > > Mary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and a wifestyle
> > got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun without
> > it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW when
> I
> > only have 2??
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
>
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 9 06:31:44 2010
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:31:44 +0100
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimR9fZPp6oPuvvUuraddeFnEVmnvphv7PpLQUKk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.113144.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
It's still the only place to get that version of Radioactive Toy (not
released elsewhere in this edit as far as I am aware) plus the other tracks
do have minor timing differences.
I don't have my copy any more but think you would get a decent price on
e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD).
Steve
On 9 September 2010 10:54, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh even Dave won't get that kind of blood out of an
> anti-technological-turnip!!!
> and geting old has it's perks doesn't it!! in some cases getting poorer
> can
> also mean wiser!!!
> but I really think Mary should do something about Yellow Hedgerow , we just
> spoke.....and I was correct.....
> and Yes at last look Wilson appeared fearsomely dangerous in his marketing
> stragtegies...
> hehehe, good read at near 5 am!!
> I wonder if the original "Radioactive Toy" "radio promo" is worth much
> now.......still have (1of) that....
>
> On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Mike,
> >
> > You mean you don't have
> >
> > - the limited edition 9 x 7" singles box set release of the album with
> > one track per side
> > - the limited edition ship shaped usb stick
> > - limited edition HW logo shaped usb stick
> > - limited edition Ipod edition with all HW tracks included.
> > - limited edition double LP picture discs
> > - limited edition LP in all the colours of the rainbow (one of each
> > colour plus a multi coloured one)
> > - audio DVD edition
> >
> >
> > Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure
> Porcupine
> > Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one reason I gave up
> > collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!).
> >
> > Hope I have not put marketing thoughts in anyone's mind though.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On 9 September 2010 02:06, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding
> > journey
> > > > of
> > > > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the nut-house,,,,,,",
> How
> > > > true, but sometimes, insanity's fun.
> > > > Mary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and a wifestyle
> > > got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun
> without
> > > it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW
> when
> > I
> > > only have 2??
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
> >
>
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 9 10:32:10 2010
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:32:10 +0100
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:57:05 -0400
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From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 9 13:00:32 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:00:32 -0400
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimR9fZPp6oPuvvUuraddeFnEVmnvphv7PpLQUKk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.9.SEP.2010.130032.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I need your copy of Yellow Hedgerow , that will solve everything. (ha, ha)
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of mike coleman
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:54 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
Oh even Dave won't get that kind of blood out of an
anti-technological-turnip!!!
and geting old has it's perks doesn't it!! in some cases getting poorer can
also mean wiser!!!
but I really think Mary should do something about Yellow Hedgerow , we just
spoke.....and I was correct.....
and Yes at last look Wilson appeared fearsomely dangerous in his marketing
stragtegies...
hehehe, good read at near 5 am!!
I wonder if the original "Radioactive Toy" "radio promo" is worth much
now.......still have (1of) that....
On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> You mean you don't have
>
> - the limited edition 9 x 7" singles box set release of the album with
> one track per side
> - the limited edition ship shaped usb stick
> - limited edition HW logo shaped usb stick
> - limited edition Ipod edition with all HW tracks included.
> - limited edition double LP picture discs
> - limited edition LP in all the colours of the rainbow (one of each
> colour plus a multi coloured one)
> - audio DVD edition
>
>
> Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure
> Porcupine Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one
> reason I gave up collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's
output!).
>
> Hope I have not put marketing thoughts in anyone's mind though.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 9 September 2010 02:06, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On 9/8/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > "While Hawkwind (kompletist) collecting is a never-ending winding
> journey
> > > of
> > > "how mad do you want to go", straight towards the
> > > nut-house,,,,,,", How true, but sometimes, insanity's fun.
> > > Mary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > and a wifestyle
> > got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun
> > without it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the
> > new HW when
> I
> > only have 2??
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
>
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 10 09:42:57 2010
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:42:57 +0100
Subject: A new project for the List?
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.144257.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
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From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 12:29:40 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:29:40 -0700
Subject: BOC in KS
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.092940.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent shows? ??
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 12:37:53 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:37:53 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <673895.73886.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.113753.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> List activity is pretty dead
I always worry if this is how they punish me
> but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> shows?
Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,,
hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!!
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 12:41:18 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:41:18 -0700
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=_AeqOT7bGTh+LVN5WgOQEnwB8hT-Q=W4kxFDK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.094118.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better than
their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy Sarzo
could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he was in.
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> List activity is pretty dead
I always worry if this is how they punish me
>? but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> shows?
Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,,
hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!!
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 12:46:42 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:46:42 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <94867.95116.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.114642.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I wish I wasn't afraid to go out
I wish I had money to go out
I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with
I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat on
his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to
save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system....
Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care......
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better
> than
> their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy
> Sarzo
> could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he
> was in.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > List activity is pretty dead
>
> I always worry if this is how they punish me
>
>
> > but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > shows?
>
>
> Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,,
> hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 12:51:34 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:51:34 -0700
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikL622v2vuYysKBk2y5vdgRKnLUi=WGDwvqKyZK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.095134.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
UFO would have been great, with Schenker?
I'm always late to the party (born too late)
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
I wish I wasn't afraid to go out
I wish I had money to go out
I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with
I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat on
his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to
save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system....
Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care......
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better
> than
> their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy
> Sarzo
> could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he
> was in.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > List activity is pretty dead
>
> I always worry if this is how they punish me
>
>
> >? but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > shows?
>
>
> Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,,
> hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 12:55:25 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:55:25 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <997437.20715.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.115525.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Yes it was the Walk On Water tour with Shenker
But the PA system was SOOOO bad Phil could not be heard.......so it was
awkward for the band
I'm extrmely loud when drunk, happy, and on a mission
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> UFO would have been great, with Schenker?
> I'm always late to the party (born too late)
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> I wish I wasn't afraid to go out
> I wish I had money to go out
> I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with
> I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat
> on
> his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to
> save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system....
> Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care......
>
>
> On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better
> > than
> > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy
> > Sarzo
> > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he
> > was in.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: BOC in KS
> >
> > On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > List activity is pretty dead
> >
> > I always worry if this is how they punish me
> >
> >
> > > but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > > shows?
> >
> >
> > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,,
> > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 13:06:49 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:06:49 -0700
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=yN0avJHeJo7n5wT17F-4Q4ZLB=jDpCh64nssz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.100649.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I went to a Sebadoh show in Deep Ellum and I think they wanted to kill the sound
guy. The song they started and stopped and started at least two times had a
backing track. Never wanted to go there again, I selfishly hope their Concrete
Blonde show was subpar.?
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:55:25 AM
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
Yes it was the Walk On Water tour with Shenker
But the PA system was SOOOO bad Phil could not be heard.......so it was
awkward for the band
I'm extrmely loud when drunk, happy, and on a mission
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> UFO would have been great, with Schenker?
> I'm always late to the party (born too late)
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> I wish I wasn't afraid to go out
> I wish I had money to go out
> I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with
> I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat
> on
> his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to
> save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system....
> Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care......
>
>
> On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way better
> > than
> > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with Rudy
> > Sarzo
> > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands he
> > was in.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: BOC in KS
> >
> > On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > List activity is pretty dead
> >
> > I always worry if this is how they punish me
> >
> >
> > >? but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > > shows?
> >
> >
> > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,,
> > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 13:46:47 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:46:47 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <358718.81201.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.124647.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
ah Deep Ellum
I actually know the guy basically responsible for (re)starting the whole
scene-
and he ran a club called Trees when Nik blew into town in 94....
I cracked up when he tried to steal my friend's Monster Magnet CD at one of
their shows (he did not know it was me or my friend)(I HOPE!!), when we were
at bar and bathroom, but I had forwarned my friend to take the CD case only
(autographs seemed cool at that moment)........so he got a CD case.....
I don't know much about what's happening there now but it was a pretty good
music scene for a while....and the whole downtown district there was turned
into lots of clubs and bands and parties...
Incidentally that guy, Jeff Lyles is (was?) also known for his own band
"Decadent Dub Team", and others....
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I went to a Sebadoh show in Deep Ellum and I think they wanted to kill the
> sound
> guy. The song they started and stopped and started at least two times had a
> backing track. Never wanted to go there again, I selfishly hope their
> Concrete
> Blonde show was subpar.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:55:25 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> Yes it was the Walk On Water tour with Shenker
> But the PA system was SOOOO bad Phil could not be heard.......so it was
> awkward for the band
> I'm extrmely loud when drunk, happy, and on a mission
>
>
> On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > UFO would have been great, with Schenker?
> > I'm always late to the party (born too late)
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: BOC in KS
> >
> > I wish I wasn't afraid to go out
> > I wish I had money to go out
> > I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with
> > I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat
> > on
> > his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to
> > save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system....
> > Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care......
> >
> >
> > On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way
> better
> > > than
> > > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with
> Rudy
> > > Sarzo
> > > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands
> he
> > > was in.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM
> > > Subject: Re: BOC in KS
> > >
> > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > List activity is pretty dead
> > >
> > > I always worry if this is how they punish me
> > >
> > >
> > > > but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > > > shows?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,,
> > > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 10 16:08:55 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:08:55 -0700
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=5mEC-L-hzmUXSQ8MjAbzkf8yZQ3nDOuxaJz82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.130855.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I think this was Deep Ellum live. After the Sebadoh debacle I didn't want to go
to another show there.
I found Nik's live album from the American tour (Austin show part of it I think)
for like a dollar recently.
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 12:46:47 PM
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
ah Deep Ellum
I actually know the guy basically responsible for (re)starting the whole
scene-
and he ran a club called Trees when Nik blew into town in 94....
I cracked up when he tried to steal my friend's Monster Magnet CD at one of
their shows (he did not know it was me or my friend)(I HOPE!!), when we were
at bar and bathroom,? but I had forwarned my friend to take the CD case only
(autographs seemed cool at that moment)........so he got a CD case.....
I don't know much about what's happening there now but it was a pretty good
music scene for a while....and the whole downtown district there was turned
into lots of clubs and bands and parties...
Incidentally that guy, Jeff Lyles is (was?) also known for his own band
"Decadent Dub Team", and others....
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I went to a Sebadoh show in Deep Ellum and I think they wanted to kill the
> sound
> guy. The song they started and stopped and started at least two times had a
> backing track. Never wanted to go there again, I selfishly hope their
> Concrete
> Blonde show was subpar.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:55:25 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> Yes it was the Walk On Water tour with Shenker
> But the PA system was SOOOO bad Phil could not be heard.......so it was
> awkward for the band
> I'm extrmely loud when drunk, happy, and on a mission
>
>
> On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > UFO would have been great, with Schenker?
> > I'm always late to the party (born too late)
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:46:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: BOC in KS
> >
> > I wish I wasn't afraid to go out
> > I wish I had money to go out
> > I wish I had somebody with a car to go out with
> > I still can't forget that guy rolling in frenzied ecstasy next to me flat
> > on
> > his back in the nasty beer-sludge-paste when I singlehandledly decided to
> > save a UFO show from the throws of a bad PA system....
> > Those guys may need you there.....and if the wife doesn't care......
> >
> >
> > On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > One of my favorite concerts was in the 90s with Lanier still, way
> better
> > > than
> > > their show with Rainbow for "Revolution By Night." Seeing them with
> Rudy
> > > Sarzo
> > > could be interesting, he was a better bass player than the hair bands
> he
> > > was in.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > > Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 11:37:53 AM
> > > Subject: Re: BOC in KS
> > >
> > > On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > List activity is pretty dead
> > >
> > > I always worry if this is how they punish me
> > >
> > >
> > > >? but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > > > shows?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah what the hell......go get drunk and make it an event,,,,,,
> > > hooping. hollaring, gyration, air guitar........whatever it takes!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Fri Sep 10 18:55:16 2010
From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:55:16 -0600
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <94867.95116.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.165516.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>>>Seeing them with Rudy Sarzo could be interesting, he was a better bass
>>>player than the hair bands he was in.
Rudy is surprisingly good with BOC. Not only does he play the songs really
well but he adds a lot of energy to the show. He's a dang nice guy too.
Who knew?
Brad in Utah
From redcap at CHARTER.NET Fri Sep 10 19:14:06 2010
From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:14:06 -0700
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <673895.73886.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.161406.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent shows? ??
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 20:00:03 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:00:03 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <180329.48519.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.190003.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/10/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I think this was Deep Ellum live. After the Sebadoh debacle I didn't want
> to go
> to another show there.
>
> I found Nik's live album from the American tour (Austin show part of it I
> think)
> for like a dollar recently.
>
Ah the Austin gig.....memories.....if Nik is a.iittle off it's my
fault........got him him there late......
sorry for waxing Jeff Liles, but he goes back to my childhood, and you made
me realise his band Wizard at the local rec center was my first gig
ever......He was a couple years older and about the most driven person I
have ever met in the local scene, and I kinda wish we'd not had some tense
moments back when people were stealing silver and guitars and evil was
rampant in the 70's....I always liked him and I see he has a name to this
day and has been somewhat successful aside of his local booking and writing,
etc....
From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Sep 10 20:06:30 2010
From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:06:30 +0100
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikXjty_YcZM-1TP18e+MDhThZ6gsn_omwYAEh2+@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.11.SEP.2010.010630.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Illumisnotty B wrote:
> Wow being a migrainer back then must have been almost as bad the modern era
> where opiates (or anything good) are so tightly contolled-
> however, little much for a fashion statement (on these) if you ask me,
> without a role model....
> http://www.viewzone.com/peruskull.html
I have no idea what to make of those but I now find I want to
liten to `Pinhead' by the Ramones. As to the skull surgery I posted,
though, yes, the oddity is supposed to be the rectangular gaps--means a
different kind of tool, cutting not drilling. Yours,
Jon
ObCD: Flaming Groovies - _Teenage Head_
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 20:25:08 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:25:08 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dodge 'em Dude
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1009110103400.2098@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.192508.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/10/10, Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at coriolis.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Illumisnotty B wrote:
>
> Wow being a migrainer back then must have been almost as bad the modern era
>> where opiates (or anything good) are so tightly contolled-
>> however, little much for a fashion statement (on these) if you ask me,
>> without a role model....
>> http://www.viewzone.com/peruskull.html
>>
>
> I have no idea what to make of those but I now find I want to liten
> to `Pinhead' by the Ramones. As to the skull surgery I posted, though, yes,
> the oddity is supposed to be the rectangular gaps--means a different kind of
> tool, cutting not drilling. Yours,
But wouldn't DRILLING be a more advanced tool?? : m). especially if it goes
back as it does?? nevermeind what they did once they got the hole
open.......hehehehe and it still seemed to my 11th grade dropout mind that
the person making this discovery could have alluded to all the other skulls
in other countries like France but I fully cop to possibly being a "space
case" in this instance and maybe only that region was called for with the
Bronze period, etc.....but nevermind that!!! Jon are you there because I
want to defend myself regarding that PRIVATE conversation we are having!!!!
wait wait....don't go back through the portal........I don't spend much time
there either!!!! takes me about 1 min!!! HAHAHAHA
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 10 20:58:33 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:58:33 -0500
Subject: A new project for the List?
In-Reply-To: <201009101342.o8ADgv5D004393@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.10.SEP.2010.195833.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Deal me in
I gave my deck to the neighbor kid and would love to have a HW pack....
great idea
I'll cough up the cash at such time
On 9/10/10, M Holmes <fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> We had an idea at Hawkfest.
>
> Lucy recently used a website to produce a pack of playing cards based on
> her family. It's kinda like the Iraq Playing cards - each one has a
> picture on it.
>
> Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based on the
> Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an agreed set of
> 54 pictures and upload them to the website. After that, anyone who wants
> them just buys them from the web company (I think they were about a
> tenner each). I'll have to get the website URL from Lucy. Possibly the
> website could be prevailed upon to make a donation to the band for each
> set sold.
>
> We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so as to prevent
> any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might volunteer their good
> piccies.
>
> So, suggestions:
>
> Ace of Spades : Has to be Lemmy
> Joker : Nik?
> Queen of Hearts : Stacia?
>
> I guess the rankings ought to reflect time in the band.
>
> Over to you folks...
>
> FoFP
>
>
> --
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 11 03:43:50 2010
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 08:43:50 +0100
Subject: A new project for the List?
In-Reply-To: <201009101342.o8ADgv5D004393@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <SAT.11.SEP.2010.084350.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Good idea.
I have no objection to any of my photos on flickr being used for this
project if you wish.
Steve
On 10 September 2010 14:42, M Holmes <fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> We had an idea at Hawkfest.
>
> Lucy recently used a website to produce a pack of playing cards based on
> her family. It's kinda like the Iraq Playing cards - each one has a
> picture on it.
>
> Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based on the
> Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an agreed set of
> 54 pictures and upload them to the website. After that, anyone who wants
> them just buys them from the web company (I think they were about a
> tenner each). I'll have to get the website URL from Lucy. Possibly the
> website could be prevailed upon to make a donation to the band for each
> set sold.
>
> We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so as to prevent
> any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might volunteer their good
> piccies.
>
> So, suggestions:
>
> Ace of Spades : Has to be Lemmy
> Joker : Nik?
> Queen of Hearts : Stacia?
>
> I guess the rankings ought to reflect time in the band.
>
> Over to you folks...
>
> FoFP
>
>
> --
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 01:05:30 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:05:30 -0500
Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated)
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.000530.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote: (re that prolific
fella)
>
> e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD).
>
> Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times now......but
> peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> cross"?
Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine article at
a handsome price so she gets into it even more)
hehehe
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 03:49:16 2010
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 08:49:16 +0100
Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimq=m0ZAZyAQ+htLD8HDsK_stZOAgdPs7c3rXqn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.084916.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Re
> peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> cross"?
Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included
OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release..
Steve
On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote: (re that prolific
> fella)
> >
> > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD).
> >
> > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times now......but
> > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> > cross"?
>
>
> Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine article at
> a handsome price so she gets into it even more)
> hehehe
>
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 10:06:01 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:06:01 -0500
Subject: was BBC, now Porcupine Tree (for a moment, thanks)
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.090601.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/12/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Re
> > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> > cross"?
> Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included
> OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release..
> Steve
Interesting - maybe this forum might be interested in that.......again,
looking back through those foggy layers of time, it seems like the vinyl
came out later, was quite limited, annoyed me, and I skipped it.....but now
I am having this strange memory of having bought one of that or something
and never played it but it seems like that can't be real.........anyway, no
mattrer HOW great the Hawkwind pate' is (and I am quite curious), it
probably popped and clicked and I think "The Cross" is one of my all time
favorites and since I never did much Prince I always forget that's his
track!!! Wow see how quiclly Steve (W) can piss you off~!!!
actaully this is so weird to me.....pretty sure I did buy that and had it
leaning on the wall of my music room and never played....ouch another thing
gone before it even began....
From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 12 10:05:34 2010
From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:05:34 +0100
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwL3VZpCDXqOJFMPPW8O9cCOzHBQwNqahR7E1Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.150534.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, mike coleman wrote:
> got "yellow hedgerow dreamscape"? don't know if I'd be having fun without
> it, and are you hinting that you've got all 3 formats of the new HW when I
> only have 2??
Getting one is hard enough. Amazon advise me that Voiceprint
aren't supplying their backorder for the 2CD. The two local record shops
have either none (HMV) or only the single CD (FOPP), and I wasn't quite
mad enough to pay 12 quid to secure an inferior version of something I was
already waiting for slightly sooner. I presume that Voiceprint aren't
doing a second pressing until their order book reassures them it's worth
it, and remind myself that they pay the artists well and so on, but it's
still maddening not to be able to just buy the thing in this day and age.
There's really no hope of Hawkwind ever getting near any chart again ever
with distribution like this. Yours,
Jon
ObCD: Reverend Bizarre - _Harbinger of Metal_
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 12 10:16:27 2010
From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:16:27 +0100
Subject: Another of the Other BBC Transcription Disc spotted
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikWG2w+Rj4GmUdVQmMLLsru0AqaY6OQCU=CiqTG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.151627.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Steve Freight wrote:
> Your mention of Yellow Hedgrow must have set me thinking, as sure Porcupine
> Tree would be thinking of ways to rehash material (one reason I gave up
> collecting was trying to keep up with Steven Wilson's output!).
There was something important that happened to me, as a PT fan,
when _In Absentia_ first came out, and it was only available on import
from the US. I nearly ordered it, and then thought, "No, I'll wait,
because if this is out that far ahead of the European version, then the
European version's going to have extra tracks on it so that there's still
a reason to buy it. I'll wait till then." And I was right, of course. But
since I was now essentially trying to outsmart the band (or their label)
in their attempts to get my money, it changed something about my feelings
for the music. I probably couldn't hear it the same way as the earlier
stuff, because I'd first engaged with it as marketing not as music. I
haven't actually been to see them since then, either, which may not be
unconnected. Mainly, of course, they're no longer a psychedelic happening,
but that's not the only thing that changed there. Yours,
Jon
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Sep 12 10:53:21 2010
From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (strobridge jill)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:53:21 +0100
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.155321.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Since this has come back to (semi) topic:
Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD tracklist:
Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, Split
Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, Excution of the
Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track Eleven, Radioactive Toy, An Empty Box,
The Cross/Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the Head.
All titles published by Hit and Run Music (Publishing) Ltd except "The
Cross" published by Warner Chappell Music Ltd. Total Playing time 77.36
Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape double lp tracklist:
Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, Split
Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, Excution of the
Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track 11, Radioactive Toy, An Empty Box, Out,
Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the Head.
<Comment by Mr Wilson on the inside cover of the album -
"The 'New' Track: The 1994 CD release includes my version of 'The Cross' a
Prince song, which was on the 'Tarquin's Seaweed Farm' cassette. I was not
greatly fond of this so in a futile and belated attempt to rewrite history I
have replaced it with a Hawkwind pastiche called "Out" that was only ever
available before on an incredibly limited (we are talking 10 copies and even
I don't have one) cassette from 1990 called 'Love Death and Mussolini'">
Sadly I have no record player any more so can't tell you what it sounds
like.
And please don't even think about making a post-midnight visit.....
cheers
Jill
On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
> Re
> > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> > cross"?
> Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included
> OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release..
>
> Steve
>
> On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote: (re that
> prolific
> > fella)
> > >
> > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD).
> > >
> > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times
> now......but
> > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> > > cross"?
> >
> >
> > Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine article
> at
> > a handsome price so she gets into it even more)
> > hehehe
> >
>
>
>
> --
> View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
>
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 11:12:05 2010
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:12:05 +0100
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=0kF3CunuY+YO8LarPitMHNVaydmcRL999YpS2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.161205.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
To me it always sounded like Magnu.
Steve
On 12 September 2010 15:53, strobridge jill <
jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Since this has come back to (semi) topic:
>
> Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD tracklist:
> Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, Split
> Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, Excution of
> the
> Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track Eleven, Radioactive Toy, An Empty Box,
> The Cross/Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the Head.
> All titles published by Hit and Run Music (Publishing) Ltd except "The
> Cross" published by Warner Chappell Music Ltd. Total Playing time 77.36
>
> Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape double lp tracklist:
> Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide, Split
> Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel, Excution of
> the
> Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track 11, Radioactive Toy, An Empty Box, Out,
> Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the Head.
>
> <Comment by Mr Wilson on the inside cover of the album -
> "The 'New' Track: The 1994 CD release includes my version of 'The Cross' a
> Prince song, which was on the 'Tarquin's Seaweed Farm' cassette. I was not
> greatly fond of this so in a futile and belated attempt to rewrite history
> I
> have replaced it with a Hawkwind pastiche called "Out" that was only ever
> available before on an incredibly limited (we are talking 10 copies and
> even
> I don't have one) cassette from 1990 called 'Love Death and Mussolini'">
> Sadly I have no record player any more so can't tell you what it sounds
> like.
>
> And please don't even think about making a post-midnight visit.....
>
> cheers
> Jill
>
>
> On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Re
> > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> > > cross"?
> > Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included
> > OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release..
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote: (re that
> > prolific
> > > fella)
> > > >
> > > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD).
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times
> > now......but
> > > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> > > > cross"?
> > >
> > >
> > > Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine
> article
> > at
> > > a handsome price so she gets into it even more)
> > > hehehe
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
> >
>
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 13:27:38 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:27:38 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <20100910191406.CKKF3.11037208.root@mp12>
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.122738.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ?
or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of
something including those 2?
I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
a gig simpy unanttended??
there are people with no life following this.......
On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
> ---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> shows?
>
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sun Sep 12 13:50:22 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:50:22 CDT
Subject: BOC in KS
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.125022.CDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I really have no life, afraid I didn't go.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:28:08 pm
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ?
or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of
something including those 2?
I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
a gig simpy unanttended??
there are people with no life following this.......
On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
> ---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> shows?
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 21:48:28 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:48:28 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <282838.11052.qm@smtp114-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.204828.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/12/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I really have no life, afraid I didn't go.
Nobody really does, but I don't think missing a gig makes you a true
contender for my title that I plan on trademarking.
I mean, you do have a wife, even if she might be like the "mountain puddin'
bear girl" on whichever episode of the Fresh Prince that was, and I am
certainly not assuming she is....
some people are just better at "appearances" than others..
damn US military industrial complex.....
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sun Sep 12 23:35:35 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:35:35 CDT
Subject: BOC in KS
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.223535.CDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Never watched Fresh Prince, hated his music.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:48:51 pm
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
On 9/12/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I really have no life, afraid I didn't go.
Nobody really does, but I don't think missing a gig makes you a true
contender for my title that I plan on trademarking.
I mean, you do have a wife, even if she might be like the "mountain puddin'
bear girl" on whichever episode of the Fresh Prince that was, and I am
certainly not assuming she is....
some people are just better at "appearances" than others..
damn US military industrial complex.....
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 12 23:44:24 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:44:24 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <448764.64371.qm@smtp102-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.224424.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I love it
seem them all numerous times, and it appears to be trying to get rerun again
now, but they are bouncing it around and driving me crazy
I never bothered with his music...I can imagine
On 9/12/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Never watched Fresh Prince, hated his music.
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:48:51 pm
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> On 9/12/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I really have no life, afraid I didn't go.
>
>
> Nobody really does, but I don't think missing a gig makes you a true
> contender for my title that I plan on trademarking.
> I mean, you do have a wife, even if she might be like the "mountain puddin'
> bear girl" on whichever episode of the Fresh Prince that was, and I am
> certainly not assuming she is....
> some people are just better at "appearances" than others..
> damn US military industrial complex.....
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 13 00:27:44 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:27:44 -0500
Subject: (OFF) BOC in KS
Message-ID: <SUN.12.SEP.2010.232744.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
it's.....just hard to find anything to watch at 4am when all you have is
regular TV :)
stupid as it is, wish there was an episode or 2 I'd not seen......
On 9/12/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I love it
> seem them all numerous times, and it appears to be trying to get rerun
> again now, but they are bouncing it around and driving me crazy
> I never bothered with his music...I can imagine
>
>
> On 9/12/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Never watched Fresh Prince, hated his music.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:48:51 pm
>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>>
>> On 9/12/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I really have no life, afraid I didn't go.
>>
>>
>> Nobody really does, but I don't think missing a gig makes you a true
>> contender for my title that I plan on trademarking.
>> I mean, you do have a wife, even if she might be like the "mountain
>> puddin'
>> bear girl" on whichever episode of the Fresh Prince that was, and I am
>> certainly not assuming she is....
>> some people are just better at "appearances" than others..
>> damn US military industrial complex.....
>>
>
>
From redcap at CHARTER.NET Mon Sep 13 14:05:25 2010
From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:05:25 -0700
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikOH9fbPofMzYj9UnqJyf7YgXxK3bOVCVCct1wz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.110525.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I'm confused here..
Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"?
i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser.....
---- mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
> has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ?
> or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of
> something including those 2?
> I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
> a gig simpy unanttended??
> there are people with no life following this.......
>
> On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
> > ---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > shows?
> >
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 13 14:19:33 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 13:19:33 CDT
Subject: BOC in KS
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.131933.CDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't play live.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:06:13 pm
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
From: "Mark "Redcap"Grosch" <redcap at CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
I'm confused here..
Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"?
i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser.....
---- mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
> has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ?
> or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of
> something including those 2?
> I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
> a gig simpy unanttended??
> there are people with no life following this.......
>
> On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
> > ---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > shows?
> >
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 13 16:08:50 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:08:50 -0500
Subject: : BOC in KS
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.150850.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I was implying that you did-
and since I have come to know of the redcap song, I have found amusement in
the "creature" meaning prior to the kiss....
so who WAS in kansas or where-ever Gary was considering?
I'm still confused
On 9/13/10, redcap at charter.net <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> I'm confused here..
> Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"?
> i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and
> dont want to be taken as a troll or poser.....
>
> ---- mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
> > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap?
> > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation
> of
> > something including those 2?
> > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
> > a gig simpy unanttended??
> > there are people with no life following this.......
> >
> > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
> > > ---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my
> county
> > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > > shows?
> > >
>
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 13 16:48:08 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:48:08 -0500
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=CLMHhYiC8vgaQ=Luac+Lae-pq4AMA+5p2mVb4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.154808.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
OK guys I've just had a look myself, and I see it was a BOC gig
he mentioned "Buck and Bloom" and you provided info that the last gig was in
july or something.
I see they go to Lubbock........might be nice to visit the site oif the
famous "lights" but I think I'll hold out for where the famous egg came
down......they'll likely be hitting that city on a future tour......
On 9/13/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was implying that you did-
> and since I have come to know of the redcap song, I have found amusement in
> the "creature" meaning prior to the kiss....
> so who WAS in kansas or where-ever Gary was considering?
> I'm still confused
>
>
> On 9/13/10, redcap at charter.net <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm confused here..
>> Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"?
>> i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it
>> and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser.....
>>
>> ---- mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
>> > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap?
>> > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation
>> of
>> > something including those 2?
>> > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
>> > a gig simpy unanttended??
>> > there are people with no life following this.......
>> >
>> > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
>> > > ---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>> > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my
>> county
>> > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
>> > > shows?
>> > >
>>
>>
>
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 13 17:01:12 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:01:12 -0700
Subject: : BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinwLWpiFgykvWFa1CP3kcb2yibbCJpo6NX_Kpw_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.140112.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
BOC played Saturday night, Fran Cosmo of Boston the same night. Think all the
other performers were tribute bands. I've found nothing reporting on the show.
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 3:08:50 PM
Subject: : BOC in KS
I was implying that you did-
and since I have come to know of the redcap song, I have found amusement in
the "creature" meaning prior to the kiss....
so who WAS in kansas or where-ever Gary was considering?
I'm still confused
On 9/13/10, redcap at charter.net <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> I'm confused here..
> Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"?
> i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and
> dont want to be taken as a troll or poser.....
>
> ---- mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
> > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap?
> > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation
> of
> > something including those 2?
> > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
> > a gig simpy unanttended??
> > there are people with no life following this.......
> >
> > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
> > > ---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my
> county
> > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > > shows?
> > >
>
>
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 13 17:52:43 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:52:43 -0400
Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimq=m0ZAZyAQ+htLD8HDsK_stZOAgdPs7c3rXqn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.175243.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
As long as I live till the show
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of mike coleman
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:06 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated)
On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote: (re that prolific
fella)
>
> e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD).
>
> Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times
> now......but peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl
> exclude "the cross"?
Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine article at
a handsome price so she gets into it even more) hehehe
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 13 17:52:43 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:52:43 -0400
Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimC+VO3FRTijyO8Mbin=LVPfrYWiADtvvX-LYgp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.175243.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Mike, you know you want me to have your copy. (ha, ha).
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Steve Freight
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:49 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated)
Re
> peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
> cross"?
Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included
OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release..
Steve
On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote: (re that
> prolific
> fella)
> >
> > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD).
> >
> > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times
> > now......but peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the
> > vinyl exclude "the cross"?
>
>
> Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine
> article at a handsome price so she gets into it even more) hehehe
>
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 13 17:52:43 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:52:43 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=UwjQMwP18-FWkns79yKYSvRsCdBR1s56c4B32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.175243.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Steve, thanks to you, Jill, and everyone else for the info on Yellow
Hedgerow Dreamscape
After the show, in 2 weeks I'll start working on a way to get a copy.
That's the best I can do, I do have a good amount of PT to prepare myself
with.
Thanks,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Steve Freight
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:12 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
To me it always sounded like Magnu.
Steve
On 12 September 2010 15:53, strobridge jill <
jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Since this has come back to (semi) topic:
>
> Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD tracklist:
> Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide,
> Split Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel,
> Excution of the Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track Eleven, Radioactive
> Toy, An Empty Box, The Cross/Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the
> Head.
> All titles published by Hit and Run Music (Publishing) Ltd except "The
> Cross" published by Warner Chappell Music Ltd. Total Playing time
> 77.36
>
> Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape double lp tracklist:
> Mute, Landscape, Prayer, Daughters in Excess, Delightful Suicide,
> Split Image, No Reason to Live No Reason to Die, Wastecoat, Towel,
> Excution of the Will of the Marquis de Sade, Track 11, Radioactive
> Toy, An Empty Box, Out, Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape, Music for the
> Head.
>
> <Comment by Mr Wilson on the inside cover of the album - "The 'New'
> Track: The 1994 CD release includes my version of 'The Cross' a Prince
> song, which was on the 'Tarquin's Seaweed Farm' cassette. I was not
> greatly fond of this so in a futile and belated attempt to rewrite
> history I have replaced it with a Hawkwind pastiche called "Out" that
> was only ever available before on an incredibly limited (we are
> talking 10 copies and even I don't have one) cassette from 1990 called
> 'Love Death and Mussolini'"> Sadly I have no record player any more so
> can't tell you what it sounds like.
>
> And please don't even think about making a post-midnight visit.....
>
> cheers
> Jill
>
>
> On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Re
> > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude
> > > "the cross"?
> > Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it
> > included OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original
release..
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 12 September 2010 06:05, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 9/9/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote: (re that
> > prolific
> > > fella)
> > > >
> > > > e-bay as will Yellow Hedgerow (I assume it is the CD).
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and the very original, in case he's redone it 23 times
> > now......but
> > > > peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude
> > > > "the cross"?
> > >
> > >
> > > Let's hope Mary does not die without knowing........(the genuine
> article
> > at
> > > a handsome price so she gets into it even more) hehehe
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
> >
>
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 13 18:08:02 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:08:02 -0500
Subject: Another of the Other BBC (OFF) (thread mutilated)
In-Reply-To: <86319B785D9B456394E08DFE8B622E11@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.170802.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/13/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Mike, you know you want me to have your copy. (ha, ha).
I actually would were it not for my problem OCD with paper pruducts, and
this one has never had it's booklet removed and if it has it is like the
moment of conception....The Cross is likely my favorite thing ever and so it
remains in my hands for now-
If you can cut your meals down I'll help you get one : )!!!
From redcap at CHARTER.NET Mon Sep 13 19:22:43 2010
From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:22:43 -0700
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <38321.17860.qm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.162243.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Actually, Gary, it is back in the rotation again!
---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't play live.
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:06:13 pm
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> From: "Mark "Redcap"Grosch" <redcap at CHARTER.NET>
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> I'm confused here..
> Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"?
> i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser.....
>
> ---- mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
> > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ?
> > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of
> > something including those 2?
> > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
> > a gig simpy unanttended??
> > there are people with no life following this.......
> >
> > On 9/10/10, Mark "Redcap"Grosch <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Last( and only one of the year) was 7-31-10 in Arnolds Park Iowa...
> > > ---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > > > List activity is pretty dead but Buck and Bloom are playing in my county
> > > tonight. Want to go, sure my wife could care less. Anyone seen recent
> > > shows?
> > >
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 13 20:14:54 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:14:54 CDT
Subject: BOC in KS
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.191454.CDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I so suck for not going, were they selling merch?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:23:11 pm
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
From: "Mark "Redcap"Grosch" <redcap at CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
Actually, Gary, it is back in the rotation again!
---- gary shindler <bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't play live.
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:06:13 pm
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> From: "Mark "Redcap"Grosch" <redcap at CHARTER.NET>
> Subject: Re: BOC in KS
>
> I'm confused here..
> Are you implying I dont know my B?C "stuff"?
> i just(finally) got turned onto this place after years of knowing of it and dont want to be taken as a troll or poser.....
>
> ---- mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > was this as brutal as it looks to someone not knowing their BOC "stuff"
> > has Gary been hit with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap ?
> > or is it less gruesome and he simply recovers from a a diff incarnation of
> > something including those 2?
> > I hope it wasn't impsters from that B. O. Culture Club.....
> > a gig simpy unanttended??
> > there are peopl
From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Mon Sep 13 23:03:44 2010
From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:03:44 -0600
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <38321.17860.qm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.210344.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't
> play live.
They played it as their opening number when I saw them a few months ago.
The famous "No Bloom" show.
Brad in Utah
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 13 23:17:49 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:17:49 CDT
Subject: BOC in KS
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.221749.CDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
No Bloom? That's a crime.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:04:18 pm
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
From: "Brad Dahl" <dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM>
Subject: Re: BOC in KS
> Think its related to "Before the Kiss a Redcap" which I'm sure they don't
> play live.
They played it as their opening number when I saw them a few months ago.
The famous "No Bloom" show.
Brad in Utah
From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Mon Sep 13 23:55:11 2010
From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:55:11 -0600
Subject: BOC in KS
In-Reply-To: <241900.40537.qm@smtp109-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.13.SEP.2010.215511.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>>> No Bloom? That's a crime.
Indeed. They did do Hot Rails to Hell, which I have not seen them do in
over 30 years. So, there was that bonus.
It seemed more like The Buck Dharma Show. Buck seemed uneasy talking to the
crowd. They played few songs and did a lot of jamming. I was hoping they
would pull out some really rare Buck stuff, but nothing else unusual was
played. I guess that would require rehearsing. :)
Brad in Utah
From steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 12:04:37 2010
From: steve.lindsey at HOTMAIL.COM (Stephen Lindsey)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:04:37 -0400
Subject: HW: Possible North American promoter
In-Reply-To: <86319B785D9B456394E08DFE8B622E11@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.120437.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi all,
I talked to Dibbs at Hawkfest about possible excursions on the american side of the pond, he did
say that they really needed to find a promoter who could do all of teh dates, and canadian and american too.
I do have a promter friend thats interested enough to want to try and get details from the band, is anyone reading this ??????
or if anyone has Dibbs email ??
Let me know !! (heres hoping eh !)
Steve Lindsey
steve.lindsey at hotmail.com
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 13:45:41 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:45:41 -0500
Subject: HW: Possible North American promoter
In-Reply-To: <BAY143-W20EAD1010BF70128F4C6E6F0780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.124541.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I hear he's on facebook
also active on the Hawkwind forum I think
have LOTS of cash and start sorting the brown MM's out.......(to show
capabilty of course), because Daddy Shortlegs I mean Van Halen was nothing
compared to getting them to even consider this again, I bet...
with my luck they'll want Texas sun, actually come, and I'll have to go out
oh dear....
On 9/14/10, Stephen Lindsey <steve.lindsey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I talked to Dibbs at Hawkfest about possible excursions on the american
> side of the pond, he did
>
> say that they really needed to find a promoter who could do all of teh
> dates, and canadian and american too.
>
>
>
> I do have a promter friend thats interested enough to want to try and get
> details from the band, is anyone reading this ??????
>
> or if anyone has Dibbs email ??
>
>
>
> Let me know !! (heres hoping eh !)
>
>
>
> Steve Lindsey
>
> steve.lindsey at hotmail.com
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 14:26:39 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:26:39 -0500
Subject: BOC
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.132639.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
some exposure-
I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
one.......
and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
absolutely impossible??
squeezing into the old getup??
has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
to the cities that seem to make no sense??
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 14:31:06 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:31:06 -0500
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8vvyESgw2Br4DCZQU6-w4suK0YcR1Lf=Ks6-x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.133106.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
oops, I meant "T.O.L."- 1964
On 9/14/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
> contained some exposure-
> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> one.......
> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> absolutely impossible??
> squeezing into the old getup??
> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>
>
>
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 14 14:54:54 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:54:54 CDT
Subject: BOC
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.135454.CDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: BOC
It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
some exposure-
I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
one.......
and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
absolutely impossible??
squeezing into the old getup??
has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
to the cities that seem to make no sense??
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 14 15:23:22 2010
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:23:22 -0500
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <6330.55349.qm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.142322.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between Albert and the band, now ...
... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
Cheers,
Carl
On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: BOC
>
> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
> some exposure-
> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> one.......
> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> absolutely impossible??
> squeezing into the old getup??
> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 14 15:44:07 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:44:07 -0700
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <B5C7A618-EE22-48A9-9A00-07D0A2CE671F@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.124407.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://www.myspace.com/bluecoupeband
Go here to reach two other BOCers.?
?
________________________________
From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:23:22 PM
Subject: Re: BOC
While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between
Albert and the band, now ...
... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically Buck
and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way).
You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs!? And is
there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do,
they're hiding it well!
Cheers,
Carl
On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state
>lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: BOC
>
> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
> some exposure-
> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> one.......
> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> absolutely impossible??
> squeezing into the old getup??
> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 14 15:52:20 2010
From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:52:20 -0700
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <B5C7A618-EE22-48A9-9A00-07D0A2CE671F@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.125220.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
?
I've got 2OC?almost often enough.
I see Albert not?nearly often enough, but I see him.
I can see Joe?kind of?often?if?I'm willing to travel some?miles.
?
Very truly I tell you, I am?blessed because after all these years, I can still see?my favorite band, though not all at once.
?
And I'm thankful they still have the drive and ambiion to play.? Thanks be to BOC.?
?
Joe Sardo - a grateful fan
Ghent, NY
?
--- On Tue, 9/14/10, Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM> wrote:
From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
Subject: Re: BOC
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 3:23 PM
While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between Albert and the band, now ...
... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
Cheers,
Carl
On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: BOC
>
> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
> some exposure-
> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> one.......
> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> absolutely impossible??
> squeezing into the old getup??
> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 14 16:18:52 2010
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:18:52 -0500
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <584013.74562.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.151852.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Blue Coupe have a Facebook presence, as well.
Cheers,
Carl
On 14 Sep 2010, at 14:44 , gary shindler wrote:
> http://www.myspace.com/bluecoupeband
> Go here to reach two other BOCers.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:23:22 PM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between
> Albert and the band, now ...
>
> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically Buck
> and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way).
> You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs! And is
> there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do,
> they're hiding it well!
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>
>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state
>> lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: BOC
>>
>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
>> some exposure-
>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
>> one.......
>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
>> absolutely impossible??
>> squeezing into the old getup??
>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>>
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 19:38:01 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:38:01 -0500
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <6330.55349.qm@smtp108-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.183801.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Not wrong although I bet we could drum up the second.....(giggling, funny
Gary)
BTW Mary's not fat nor an overeater......
in fact she's no longer alone........
ahum;;;;;;; here's guy who goes to bed concered over things like human
mutliation (at least one) with victim still living, and apparently expiring
from pain, heart attack and fear, and glancing at some BOC lyrics, some of
those almost contend in the "bother" department....
might this not be Albert's handiwork??
anway, not feeling too self-confident at moment......attempting to return to
my seat in tha corner of the back row....
On 9/14/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state
> lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: BOC
>
> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
> contained
> some exposure-
> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> one.......
> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> absolutely impossible??
> squeezing into the old getup??
> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>
From redcap at CHARTER.NET Tue Sep 14 20:07:20 2010
From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:07:20 -0700
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <40165.6102.qm@web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.170720.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
You are blessed with being in "Bouchard Country"!
I only got the Brains here in Wisco for a couple of years and Joe made a gig in Madison a year with Pat Travers and others ago but I didnt find out till the last second.
Was in attendance for the Blue Coupe show in N.Y. at the "fans Weekend" show in 08. What a wonderful eve it was!
Listings of all dates and shows for all B?C related stuff can be found here..
http://www.hotrails.co.uk/
Cool site and it can use any setlists or reviews anyone has!
Peace!
'Cap
---- Joseph Sardo <nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> ?
> I've got 2OC?almost often enough.
> I see Albert not?nearly often enough, but I see him.
> I can see Joe?kind of?often?if?I'm willing to travel some?miles.
> ?
> Very truly I tell you, I am?blessed because after all these years, I can still see?my favorite band, though not all at once.
> ?
> And I'm thankful they still have the drive and ambiion to play.? Thanks be to BOC.?
> ?
> Joe Sardo - a grateful fan
> Ghent, NY
> ?
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/14/10, Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM> wrote:
>
>
> From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
> Subject: Re: BOC
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 3:23 PM
>
>
> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between Albert and the band, now ...
>
> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>
> > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: BOC
> >
> > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
> > some exposure-
> > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> > one.......
> > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> > absolutely impossible??
> > squeezing into the old getup??
> > has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
> > to the cities that seem to make no sense??
> >
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
From redcap at CHARTER.NET Tue Sep 14 20:08:33 2010
From: redcap at CHARTER.NET (Mark "Redcap"Grosch)
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:08:33 -0400
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <F46F4FE6-F238-4433-9C50-A677A45707EF@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.14.SEP.2010.200833.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
As well as a new cd coming out!:-)
---- Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM> wrote:
> Blue Coupe have a Facebook presence, as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 14 Sep 2010, at 14:44 , gary shindler wrote:
>
> > http://www.myspace.com/bluecoupeband
> > Go here to reach two other BOCers.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:23:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: BOC
> >
> > While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between
> > Albert and the band, now ...
> >
> > ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically Buck
> > and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way).
> > You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs! And is
> > there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do,
> > they're hiding it well!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Carl
> >
> > On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
> >
> >> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state
> >> lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> >> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> >> Subject: BOC
> >>
> >> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
> >> some exposure-
> >> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> >> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> >> one.......
> >> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> >> absolutely impossible??
> >> squeezing into the old getup??
> >> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> >> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
> >> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Carl Edlund Anderson
> > http://www.carlaz.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 15 08:41:04 2010
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:41:04 -0500
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <20100914200833.FBZSK.8220417.root@mp08>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.074104.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Ah ha! :)
On 14 Sep 2010, at 19:08 , <redcap at charter.net> <redcap at charter.net> wrote:
> As well as a new cd coming out!:-)
> ---- Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM> wrote:
>> Blue Coupe have a Facebook presence, as well.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carl
>>
>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 14:44 , gary shindler wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.myspace.com/bluecoupeband
>>> Go here to reach two other BOCers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>> Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 2:23:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: BOC
>>>
>>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation between
>>> Albert and the band, now ...
>>>
>>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically Buck
>>> and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in their way).
>>> You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write songs! And is
>>> there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that way? If they do,
>>> they're hiding it well!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the state
>>>> lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> Subject: BOC
>>>>
>>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly contained
>>>> some exposure-
>>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
>>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
>>>> one.......
>>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
>>>> absolutely impossible??
>>>> squeezing into the old getup??
>>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
>>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as opposed
>>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl Edlund Anderson
>>> http://www.carlaz.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl Edlund Anderson
>> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Sep 15 08:44:58 2010
From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:44:58 -0400
Subject: BOC
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.084458.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Right. BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up. The "other guys" (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days (not that there's anything wrong with that). Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I know what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore. The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll still be putting out music.
The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC remasters. Those of us that bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on completing the project. A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC albums the other day and love the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how COOL is that? And yet, sales were lackluster.
Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been out of BOC for nearly 30...
Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: http://www.bluecoupeband.com
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
> between Albert and the band, now ...
>
> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically
> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write
> songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that
> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>
> > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: BOC
> >
> > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
> contained
> > some exposure-
> > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> > one.......
> > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> > absolutely impossible??
> > squeezing into the old getup??
> > has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
> opposed
> > to the cities that seem to make no sense??
> >
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 15 10:03:48 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:03:48 -0500
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <DBC56FBD6DD45240BCF21CA032A46534117ED2E29C@IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.090348.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/15/10, Swartz, John A. <jswartz at mitre.org> wrote:
>
> Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in
> 1996, Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been
> out of BOC for nearly 30...
Ah yes, me in the very back of the field making the whole show about Ace,
Ace talking back to "my people", way cool heat-lightining in the
backgroud....I know why they have a fake Ace (PUKE upon PUKE) (and I only
know that because my friend told me)
hope they did video that night....
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 15 10:26:37 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:26:37 -0700
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <DBC56FBD6DD45240BCF21CA032A46534117ED2E29C@IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.072637.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
"Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening"
reissue is a goodie.
________________________________
From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM
Subject: Re: BOC
Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other guys"
(Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass,
and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe
some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days (not
that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I know
what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago,
he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the
guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore.?
The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out
new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll
still be putting out music.
The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion"
project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few
thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way
for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us that
bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears
they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on
completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC
albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the laser
era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?? Well how
COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.?
Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996,
Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out of BOC
for nearly 30...
Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:? http://www.bluecoupeband.com
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
> between Albert and the band, now ...
>
> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically
> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write
> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that
> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>
> > Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: BOC
> >
> > It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
> contained
> > some exposure-
> > I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> > sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> > one.......
> > and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
> > absolutely impossible??
> > squeezing into the old getup??
> > has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> > wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
> opposed
> > to the cities that seem to make no sense??
> >
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 15 11:51:20 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:51:20 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.105120.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Dear Folks-
I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
compelled to share this.
Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close
friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other
(almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our
lifes......
I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51
yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack)
One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
sickening.....
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 15 11:54:54 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:54:54 -0700
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik20MyrhRoyBaduvnUAJ6AJf53t9KGNQ0g+Npmk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.085454.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Mary's the kindest person I've met from this list and I am adding her to my good
thoughts list. Thanks for the info, Mike.
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Dear Folks-
I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
compelled to share this.
Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close
friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other
(almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our
lifes......
I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51
yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack)
One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
sickening.....
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 15 11:59:09 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:59:09 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <723298.45268.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.105909.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
It's making me sick because although she is a strong individual, that is NOT
the case with this
she is very sick
On 9/15/10, gary shindler <bewlay68 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Mary's the kindest person I've met from this list and I am adding her to my
> good
> thoughts list. Thanks for the info, Mike.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM
> Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
>
> Dear Folks-
> I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
> compelled to share this.
> Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close
> friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other
> (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our
> lifes......
> I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed
> away....51
> yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack)
> One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
> sickening.....
>
>
>
>
>
From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 15 12:56:33 2010
From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:56:33 -0400
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <DBC56FBD6DD45240BCF21CA032A46534117ED2E29C@IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG>
Message-ID: <WED.15.SEP.2010.125633.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
But John, 1996 was 14 years ago! Maybe they didn't want to look like they were jumping on a bandwagon.;-)
On Sep 15, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Swartz, John A. wrote:
> Right. BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up. The "other guys" (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass, and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days (not that there's anything wrong with that). Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I know what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago, he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore. The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll still be putting out music.
>
> The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion" project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC remasters. Those of us that bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on completing the project. A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC albums the other day and love the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how COOL is that? And yet, sales were lackluster.
>
> Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996, Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been out of BOC for nearly 30...
>
> Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: http://www.bluecoupeband.com
>
>
> John
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: BOC
>>
>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
>> between Albert and the band, now ...
>>
>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically
>> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
>> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write
>> songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that
>> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carl
>>
>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>>
>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
>> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
>>> Subject: BOC
>>>
>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
>> contained
>>> some exposure-
>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
>>> one.......
>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
>>> absolutely impossible??
>>> squeezing into the old getup??
>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
>> opposed
>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl Edlund Anderson
>> http://www.carlaz.com/
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 00:44:57 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:44:57 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <723298.45268.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.004457.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Gary, that's sweet of you to say, and thanks for your kind words, and
thoughts. This is all such a shock, David passed away 24 hours ago from a
heart attack. This is a very warm and friendly list, and thanks, also to
Mike for posting about my brother. The loving vibes on this list mean more
than I can tell you, thanks so much.
Love,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of gary shindler
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:55 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Mary's the kindest person I've met from this list and I am adding her to my
good thoughts list. Thanks for the info, Mike.
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Dear Folks-
I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
compelled to share this.
Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close
friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other
(almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our
lifes......
I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51
yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack)
One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
sickening.....
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 16 01:44:15 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:44:15 CDT
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.004415.CDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
We can do more for ourselves than just squabble about not getting to see the 'wind. Good to read you, Mary.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:45:34 pm
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
From: "mary ann sullivan" <maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Gary, that's sweet of you to say, and thanks for your kind words, and
thoughts. This is all such a shock, David passed away 24 hours ago from a
heart attack. This is a very warm and friendly list, and thanks, also to
Mike for posting about my brother. The loving vibes on this list mean more
than I can tell you, thanks so much.
Love,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of gary shindler
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:55 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Mary's the kindest person I've met from this list and I am adding her to my
good thoughts list. Thanks for the info, Mike.
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Dear Folks-
I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
compelled
From pamwheaton at CABLEONE.NET Thu Sep 16 03:50:15 2010
From: pamwheaton at CABLEONE.NET (pam Wheaton)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:50:15 -0600
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <A687C04F031148578A456DB121A475F3@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.015015.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
A large hug to you, Mary !
Pam
________________________________ From: mike coleman
<insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed,
September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear
Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal
and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary
Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone),
and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get
through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad
call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs
old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her
family....... sickening.....
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 16 05:06:09 2010
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:06:09 +0100
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: mary ann sullivan's message of Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:44:57 -0400
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.100609.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
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From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 16 05:03:01 2010
From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:03:01 +0100
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=UwjQMwP18-FWkns79yKYSvRsCdBR1s56c4B32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.100301.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Steve Freight wrote:
> To me it always sounded like Magnu.
>> On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Re
>>>> peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude "the
>>>> cross"?
>>> Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it included
>>> OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original release..
I have this. It is basically `Magnu', complete with words and
synth sax solo, but as with the way Mr Wilson's cover of `Hallgallo'
turned into `Signify' halfway through it changes shape dramatically in the
middle, with a hammering break in rising chords that Alan Davey would have
been proud to have written and a chorus of "DOUBT! just get out of my
head" repeated with a rising inflection to match the chords. Unlike the
`Hallogallo' thing, however, it returns to shape for one more verse of
`Magnu' before repeating the break and continuing up the scales into a
chaotic finale. It's not bad, although rather constrained by the bedroom
recording scenario--very hard to make chaos sound accidental when you're
deliberately laying it down on four-track by yourself, I imagine. Yours,
Jon
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Thu Sep 16 10:20:29 2010
From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (Elipxr5)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:20:29 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <A687C04F031148578A456DB121A475F3@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.102029.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Dear Mary, I was very, very sorry to hear of your recent loss. Keep strong...as you always seem to do in hard times. I know you have the sympathy, support and love of all your many friends in Hawkwind fandom, the band members, and all your friends here on the discussion list. My deepest condolences, yours, Eli Friedman
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Dear Folks-
I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
compelled to share this.
Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close
friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other
(almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our
lifes......
I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51
yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack)
One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
sickening.....
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 10:49:28 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:49:28 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1009160957580.13188@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.104928.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Need to find a copy, also I really need to hear the full version of 9 Cats,
since I love that piece. It will happen. I look forward to being able to
comment on The Cross, and all those wonderful pieces of music Mr. Wilson has
written that I haven't heard, yet. PT, are officially my second favorite
band, and the upcoming show is really helping me keep my sanity. Are there
any trading sites for PT, if so, I guess they're underground, I plan on
bring a bit of extra money to purchase something at the show, but what, and
where do I start? Steve, I always loved Magnu, and when I turned Dave Brock
on to the first PT album he thought Jupiter Island sounded like Assault and
Battery, I don't hear the resemblance, that's why Dave's a musician, and I'm
not. Also, I turned my friend Shani Carey on to PT, and it became a joke
that an American turned her on to music from her side of the pond.
Thanks for giving me something pleasant to think about, I really appreciate
it.
Your friend,
Mary
P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read Cosmic
Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept for 3 days, and
he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded out some folks on the bus
reading about conspiracy theories, and all. We never did get around to
reading the books, and last I checked, they're not available to me, unless I
come up with cash to pay to have them read. During that tour, at the Stone
in Frisco, a flyer for a Robert Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind
bus. Weird, but I guess it goes with the territory.
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:03 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Steve Freight wrote:
> To me it always sounded like Magnu.
>> On 12 September 2010 08:49, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Re
>>>> peeling back the foggy layers of memory didn't the vinyl exclude
>>>> "the cross"?
>>> Yes (question of copyright to Prince I think) but pretty sure it
>>> included OUT the Hawkwind pastiche which was not on the original
release..
I have this. It is basically `Magnu', complete with words and synth
sax solo, but as with the way Mr Wilson's cover of `Hallgallo'
turned into `Signify' halfway through it changes shape dramatically in the
middle, with a hammering break in rising chords that Alan Davey would have
been proud to have written and a chorus of "DOUBT! just get out of my head"
repeated with a rising inflection to match the chords. Unlike the
`Hallogallo' thing, however, it returns to shape for one more verse of
`Magnu' before repeating the break and continuing up the scales into a
chaotic finale. It's not bad, although rather constrained by the bedroom
recording scenario--very hard to make chaos sound accidental when you're
deliberately laying it down on four-track by yourself, I imagine. Yours,
Jon
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly
opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 11:19:41 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:19:41 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <8CD23C1712A64D6-88C-119D@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.111941.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Thanks Eli,
I'm really blessed with so many caring people in my life. It's just so sad
I've lost my brother. I'm 1 of 9, so there will be a lot of comfort and
fond memories being passed around at the wake and funeral. I dread such
occasions. I want to be left alone, during that time, I'm too depressed,
and depressing to be around. Since I have no choice, I'll get through
this, (like a kidney stone, or something), everyone tells me David is in a
better place. Nice words, but it's all so clich?, well meant, of course.
There are no words for these sorts of things. Thanks for your friendship
through the years.
I hope things are going well for you. Are you going to see PT?
Love to you, and Paula,
Mary and Kosh
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Elipxr5
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:20 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Dear Mary, I was very, very sorry to hear of your recent loss. Keep
strong...as you always seem to do in hard times. I know you have the
sympathy, support and love of all your many friends in Hawkwind fandom, the
band members, and all your friends here on the discussion list. My deepest
condolences, yours, Eli Friedman
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Dear Folks-
I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
compelled to share this.
Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close
friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other
(almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our
lifes......
I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51
yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her
family.......
sickening.....
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 11:19:41 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:19:41 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <4C91CC37.8050008@cableone.net>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.111941.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Thanks Pam, , I needed that.
Love,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of pam Wheaton
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
A large hug to you, Mary !
Pam
________________________________ From: mike coleman
<insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed,
September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear
Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and
feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she
has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few
years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through
unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this
morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart
attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
sickening.....
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 16 11:39:43 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:39:43 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <4C32447AD9B84476AE7F0E25E4561074@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.103943.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
My intial thoughts in posting this was not to bring anyone down, but rather
I know how important the people are here, and I figured people that know
Mary could pass her a kind word if they wished.....(not necessarily on
forum)
Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me for
being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or the
mental institution, I need sympathy......where the hell is Stewart......
On 9/16/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Pam, , I needed that.
> Love,
>
> Mary
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
> On
> Behalf Of pam Wheaton
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 AM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
>
> A large hug to you, Mary !
> Pam
>
>
> ________________________________ From: mike coleman
> <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed,
> September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear
> Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and
> feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she
> has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone), and for a few
> years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to get through
> unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a very sad call this
> morning, her brother David just passed away....51 yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart
> attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
> sickening.....
>
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 12:00:32 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:00:32 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <8CD23C1712A64D6-88C-119D@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.120032.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Thanks Eli, and friends, for belief in my strength, I don't see myself as
being all that strong, at all, I'm just getting by with a lot of help from
my friends. As always, reading postings from my friends does make me feel a
lot better.
Love,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Elipxr5
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:20 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Dear Mary, I was very, very sorry to hear of your recent loss. Keep
strong...as you always seem to do in hard times. I know you have the
sympathy, support and love of all your many friends in Hawkwind fandom, the
band members, and all your friends here on the discussion list. My deepest
condolences, yours, Eli Friedman
________________________________
From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
Dear Folks-
I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
compelled to share this.
Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close
friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other
(almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our
lifes......
I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51
yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her
family.......
sickening.....
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 16 12:16:52 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:16:52 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin5tNiSPDLokY_2Af3DLUr4eKwaN=-kj29XChy7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.121652.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
You certainly have my sympathy, and admiration at the way you dealt with the
situation.
Lots of love, and thanks for everything. You are a dear friend.
Love,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of mike coleman
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:40 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
My intial thoughts in posting this was not to bring anyone down, but rather
I know how important the people are here, and I figured people that know
Mary could pass her a kind word if they wished.....(not necessarily on
forum)
Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me for
being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or the
mental institution, I need sympathy......where the hell is Stewart......
On 9/16/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Pam, , I needed that.
> Love,
>
> Mary
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
> On
> Behalf Of pam Wheaton
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 AM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
>
> A large hug to you, Mary !
> Pam
>
>
> ________________________________ From: mike coleman
> <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed,
> September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear
> Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal
> and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary
> Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone),
> and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to
> get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a
> very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51
> yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart
> attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
> sickening.....
>
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 16 12:53:04 2010
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:53:04 -0500
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <586751.83960.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.115304.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Indeed, they did not. Which is a shame.
Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :)
Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;)
Cheers,
Carl
On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote:
> If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
> "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening"
> reissue is a goodie.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Right. BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up. The "other guys"
> (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass,
> and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe
> some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days (not
> that there's anything wrong with that). Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I know
> what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago,
> he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the
> guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore.
> The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out
> new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll
> still be putting out music.
>
> The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion"
> project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few
> thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way
> for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC remasters. Those of us that
> bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears
> they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on
> completing the project. A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC
> albums the other day and love the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser
> era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how
> COOL is that? And yet, sales were lackluster.
>
>
> Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996,
> Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been out of BOC
> for nearly 30...
>
> Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: http://www.bluecoupeband.com
>
>
> John
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: BOC
>>
>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
>> between Albert and the band, now ...
>>
>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically
>> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
>> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write
>> songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that
>> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carl
>>
>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>>
>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
>> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
>>> Subject: BOC
>>>
>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
>> contained
>>> some exposure-
>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
>>> one.......
>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
>>> absolutely impossible??
>>> squeezing into the old getup??
>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
>> opposed
>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl Edlund Anderson
>> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 16 13:03:15 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:03:15 -0700
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <02F13299-5E19-4F17-AC3C-F26F00F6836C@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.100315.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my least
favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best, since
Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence?
________________________________
From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM
Subject: Re: BOC
Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame.
Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :)
Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;)
Cheers,
Carl
On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote:
> If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
> "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening"
>
> reissue is a goodie.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other guys"
>
> (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass,
> and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe
>
> some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days
>(not
>
> that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I
>know
>
> what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago,
> he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the
> guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore.?
> The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out
>
> new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll
> still be putting out music.
>
> The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion"
> project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few
> thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way
> for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us that
> bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears
> they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on
> completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC
>
> albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the laser
> era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?? Well how
>
> COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.?
>
>
> Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996,
> Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out of BOC
> for nearly 30...
>
> Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:? http://www.bluecoupeband.com
>
>
> John
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: BOC
>>
>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
>> between Albert and the band, now ...
>>
>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically
>> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
>> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write
>> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that
>> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carl
>>
>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>>
>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
>> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
>>> Subject: BOC
>>>
>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
>> contained
>>> some exposure-
>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
>>> one.......
>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
>>> absolutely impossible??
>>> squeezing into the old getup??
>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
>> opposed
>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Carl Edlund Anderson
>> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Thu Sep 16 13:07:50 2010
From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Markvb)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:07:50 +0100
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <66AC1EE725804129A76F431C4565FE17@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.180750.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Best wishes Mary.
Mark
Sent from my iPhone
On 16 Sep 2010, at 17:16, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET> wrote:
> You certainly have my sympathy, and admiration at the way you dealt with the
> situation.
>
> Lots of love, and thanks for everything. You are a dear friend.
>
> Love,
>
> Mary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
> Behalf Of mike coleman
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:40 AM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
>
> My intial thoughts in posting this was not to bring anyone down, but rather
> I know how important the people are here, and I figured people that know
> Mary could pass her a kind word if they wished.....(not necessarily on
> forum)
> Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me for
> being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or the
> mental institution, I need sympathy......where the hell is Stewart......
>
>
> On 9/16/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Pam, , I needed that.
>> Love,
>>
>> Mary
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
>> On
>> Behalf Of pam Wheaton
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 AM
>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>> Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
>>
>> A large hug to you, Mary !
>> Pam
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ From: mike coleman
>> <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed,
>> September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother Dear
>> Folks- I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal
>> and feel compelled to share this. Despite my constant teasing Mary
>> Bruce, she has become an extremely close friend (by way of the phone),
>> and for a few years there we had each-other (almost exclusively) to
>> get through unbeliveable isolation in both our lifes...... I got a
>> very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed away....51
>> yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart
>> attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her family.......
>> sickening.....
>>
From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Sep 16 13:13:54 2010
From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:13:54 +0100
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <586751.83960.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.181354.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 15/09/2010 15:26, gary shindler wrote:
> If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
> "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening"
> reissue is a goodie.
>
"Cultosaurus" did at least get remastered, even if there were no extra
tracks.
--
Tim Hall
Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog
Photos -> http://kalyr.fotopic.net
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 16 13:22:42 2010
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:22:42 -0500
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <539195.31752.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.122242.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well, Imaginos was really an Al solo project on which Sony slapped some Eric and Buck overdubs and released as BOC -- which is not to say that it is not awesome, but "band" is a nebulous concept in relation to its creation. (Al worked on it for years, with various contributors, from what I understand.)
But, yeah, it is probably as good or better than the sum of the best of B?C's Al-less output. :) Of course, Pearlman's and Meltzer's associations with B?C also faded away around the same time as, or shortly after, Al left. That didn't really help B?C's songwriter fund either. I think Al himself has observed that Buck, for example, has great ideas -- but they come or develop rather slowly. So it would seem that there is simply not enough of a "critical mass" in the post-Fire B?C to sustain continued songwriting.
Meanwhile, skimming through the Brain Surgeons' back catalog -- OK, maybe its not all blindingly brilliant :) but certainly enough of it is damned rockin' to clarify (as if there had been any doubt) that you need songwriters to produce new material. (Denial of Death continues to kick my arse whenever I give it a spin!)
But, hey, Buck and Eric seem happy enough doing what they're doing -- otherwise one supposes they wouldn't bother to do it, so who are we to demand new albums? I haven't seen 2?C, but I saw 3?C a few times, and I enjoyed the shows.
Cheers,
Carl
On 16 Sep 2010, at 12:03 , gary shindler wrote:
> Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my least
> favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best, since
> Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Indeed, they did not. Which is a shame.
>
> Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :)
>
> Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote:
>
>> If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
>> "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening"
>>
>> reissue is a goodie.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: BOC
>>
>> Right. BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up. The "other guys"
>>
>> (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass,
>
>> and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe
>>
>> some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days
>> (not
>>
>> that there's anything wrong with that). Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I
>> know
>>
>> what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago,
>
>> he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the
>> guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore.
>
>> The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out
>>
>> new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll
>
>> still be putting out music.
>>
>> The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion"
>> project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few
>> thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way
>
>> for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC remasters. Those of us that
>> bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears
>> they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on
>> completing the project. A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC
>>
>> albums the other day and love the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser
>> era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how
>>
>> COOL is that? And yet, sales were lackluster.
>>
>>
>> Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996,
>> Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years. Albert has been out of BOC
>
>> for nearly 30...
>>
>> Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at: http://www.bluecoupeband.com
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: BOC
>>>
>>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
>>> between Albert and the band, now ...
>>>
>>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile! It's basically
>>> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
>>> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write
>>> songs! And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that
>>> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
>>> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> Subject: BOC
>>>>
>>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
>>> contained
>>>> some exposure-
>>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
>>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
>>>> one.......
>>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
>>>> absolutely impossible??
>>>> squeezing into the old getup??
>>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
>>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
>>> opposed
>>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl Edlund Anderson
>>> http://www.carlaz.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 16 13:28:30 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:28:30 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <999C75949CE247648B8CF905957AB61C@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.122830.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
and I didn't mean to detract either-
meant to say I was impressed that you could type the words clearly,
especially after speaking last night-
awful Mary, I am so sorry and YOU KNOW I AM
My friend Jim Collin's mom passed likely not a week ago as well, some of you
may remember him...
On 9/16/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Eli, and friends, for belief in my strength, I don't see myself as
> being all that strong, at all, I'm just getting by with a lot of help from
> my friends. As always, reading postings from my friends does make me feel
> a
> lot better.
>
> Love,
>
> Mary
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
> On
> Behalf Of Elipxr5
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
>
> Dear Mary, I was very, very sorry to hear of your recent loss. Keep
> strong...as you always seem to do in hard times. I know you have the
> sympathy, support and love of all your many friends in Hawkwind fandom, the
> band members, and all your friends here on the discussion list. My deepest
> condolences, yours, Eli Friedman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: mike coleman <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 10:51:20 AM
> Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
>
> Dear Folks-
> I realise this may not be appropriate, but then I'm not normal and feel
> compelled to share this.
> Despite my constant teasing Mary Bruce, she has become an extremely close
> friend (by way of the phone), and for a few years there we had each-other
> (almost exclusively) to get through unbeliveable isolation in both our
> lifes......
> I got a very sad call this morning, her brother David just passed
> away....51
> yrs old,,,,,,,,(heart attack) One thing about Mary is that she LOVES her
> family.......
> sickening.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 16 13:46:58 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:46:58 -0700
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <8A9E7582-81E6-4D96-9DB5-E8832D7B0785@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.104658.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
You're right,?most of the guys are?still at it (except Lanier) so that's good.
Still kicking myself for missing Brain Surgeons when they swung through Kansas
City, I bet there was a small crowd.
________________________________
From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 12:22:42 PM
Subject: Re: BOC
Well, Imaginos was really an Al solo project on which Sony slapped some Eric and
Buck overdubs and released as BOC -- which is not to say that it is not awesome,
but "band" is a nebulous concept in relation to its creation.? (Al worked on it
for years, with various contributors, from what I understand.)
But, yeah, it is probably as good or better than the sum of the best of B?C's
Al-less output. :)? Of course, Pearlman's and Meltzer's associations with B?C
also faded away around the same time as, or shortly after, Al left.? That didn't
really help B?C's songwriter fund either.? I think Al himself has observed that
Buck, for example, has great ideas -- but they come or develop rather slowly. So
it would seem that there is simply not enough of a "critical mass" in the
post-Fire B?C to sustain continued songwriting.
Meanwhile, skimming through the Brain Surgeons' back catalog -- OK, maybe its
not all blindingly brilliant :) but certainly enough of it is damned rockin' to
clarify (as if there had been any doubt) that you need songwriters to produce
new material.? (Denial of Death continues to kick my arse whenever I give it a
spin!)
But, hey, Buck and Eric seem happy enough doing what they're doing -- otherwise
one supposes they wouldn't bother to do it, so who are we to demand new albums?
I haven't seen 2?C, but I saw 3?C a few times, and I enjoyed the shows.
Cheers,
Carl
On 16 Sep 2010, at 12:03 , gary shindler wrote:
> Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my
>least
>
> favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best,
>since
>
> Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame.
>
> Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :)
>
> Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote:
>
>> If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
>> "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted Evening"
>>
>>
>> reissue is a goodie.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>> Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: BOC
>>
>> Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other guys"
>>
>>
>> (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on bass,
>
>
>> and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do breathe
>>
>>
>> some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these days
>> (not
>>
>> that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say I
>> know
>>
>> what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years ago,
>
>
>> he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock the
>> guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring anymore.?
>
>
>> The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still putting out
>>
>>
>> new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour, they'll
>
>
>> still be putting out music.
>>
>> The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of "reunion"
>> project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few
>> thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in any way
>
>
>> for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us that
>> bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it appears
>> they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on
>> completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC
>>
>>
>> albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the laser
>> era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?? Well how
>>
>>
>> COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.?
>>
>>
>> Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in 1996,
>> Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out of BOC
>
>
>> for nearly 30...
>>
>> Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:?
http://www.bluecoupeband.com
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: BOC
>>>
>>> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
>>> between Albert and the band, now ...
>>>
>>> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's basically
>>> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
>>> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ... write
>>> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go that
>>> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carl
>>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
>>> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> Subject: BOC
>>>>
>>>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
>>> contained
>>>> some exposure-
>>>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
>>>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
>>>> one.......
>>>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the ranks
>>>> absolutely impossible??
>>>> squeezing into the old getup??
>>>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
>>>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
>>> opposed
>>>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carl Edlund Anderson
>>> http://www.carlaz.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
>
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Sep 16 13:56:19 2010
From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:56:19 +0100
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <8A9E7582-81E6-4D96-9DB5-E8832D7B0785@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <THU.16.SEP.2010.185619.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 16/09/2010 18:22, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
> But, hey, Buck and Eric seem happy enough doing what they're doing -- otherwise one supposes they wouldn't bother to do it, so who are we to demand new albums? I haven't seen 2?C, but I saw 3?C a few times, and I enjoyed the shows.
>
Saw 2?C on their last British tour, back when Danny Miranda was playing
bass - The Manchester show was a seriously good show, but yes, they're
basically their own tribute band nowadays.
Although looking at US and UK setlists, they seem to rely less on the
same standards and bring out more of the less-often played tracks.
Hadn't expected to hear things like "Before the Kiss (A Redcap)" or
"Teen Archer".
--
Tim Hall
Weblog -> http://www.kalyr.com/weblog
Photos -> http://kalyr.fotopic.net
From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Sep 17 08:25:47 2010
From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:25:47 -0400
Subject: BOC
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.082547.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Club Ninja has be "re-issued" a few times, but I believe there were no extras (other than maybe some enhanced liner notes).
Cultosaurus WAS remastered in Europe, back before Sony started remastering the first 3 discs, and it contains no bonus tracks (but does restore the downbeat of "Deadline", which got cut on the original CD version of Cultosaurus - if memory serves)
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my
> least
> favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best,
> since
> Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame.
>
> Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :)
>
> Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote:
>
> > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
> > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted
> Evening"
> >
> > reissue is a goodie.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: BOC
> >
> > Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other
> guys"
> >
> > (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on
> bass,
>
> > and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do
> breathe
> >
> > some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these
> days
> >(not
> >
> > that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say
> I
> >know
> >
> > what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years
> ago,
>
> > he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock
> the
> > guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring
> anymore.
>
> > The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still
> putting out
> >
> > new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour,
> they'll
>
> > still be putting out music.
> >
> > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of
> "reunion"
> > project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few
> > thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in
> any way
>
> > for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us
> that
> > bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it
> appears
> > they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on
> > completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first
> 3 BOC
> >
> > albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the
> laser
> > era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?
> Well how
> >
> > COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.
> >
> >
> > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in
> 1996,
> > Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out
> of BOC
>
> > for nearly 30...
> >
> > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:
> http://www.bluecoupeband.com
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: BOC
> >>
> >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
> >> between Albert and the band, now ...
> >>
> >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's
> basically
> >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
> >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ...
> write
> >> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go
> that
> >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
> >>
> >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
> >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> >>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> >>> Subject: BOC
> >>>
> >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
> >> contained
> >>> some exposure-
> >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> >>> one.......
> >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the
> ranks
> >>> absolutely impossible??
> >>> squeezing into the old getup??
> >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
> >> opposed
> >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carl Edlund Anderson
> >> http://www.carlaz.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 17 09:20:07 2010
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:20:07 +0100
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:39:43 -0500
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From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 17 09:32:33 2010
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:32:33 -0700
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <DBC56FBD6DD45240BCF21CA032A46534117ED2E9B7@IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.063233.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I thought the CD, Koch's reissue, had a label advertising an extra track,
remember it made a big deal about Howard Stern being on the album. Still have
the LP, I think. ??
________________________________
From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 7:25:47 AM
Subject: Re: BOC
Club Ninja has be "re-issued" a few times, but I believe there were no extras
(other than maybe some enhanced liner notes).
Cultosaurus WAS remastered in Europe, back before Sony started remastering the
first 3 discs, and it contains no bonus tracks (but does restore the downbeat of
"Deadline", which got cut on the original CD version of Cultosaurus - if memory
serves)
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of my
> least
> favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the best,
> since
> Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame.
>
> Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :)
>
> Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote:
>
> > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
> > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted
> Evening"
> >
> > reissue is a goodie.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: BOC
> >
> > Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The "other
> guys"
> >
> > (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly on
> bass,
>
> > and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do
> breathe
> >
> > some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these
> days
> >(not
> >
> > that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't say
> I
> >know
> >
> > what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5 years
> ago,
>
> > he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to knock
> the
> > guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring
> anymore.
>
> > The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still
> putting out
> >
> > new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour,
> they'll
>
> > still be putting out music.
> >
> > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of
> "reunion"
> > project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few
> > thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in
> any way
>
> > for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us
> that
> > bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it
> appears
> > they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on
> > completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the first
> 3 BOC
> >
> > albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the
> laser
> > era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?
> Well how
> >
> > COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.
> >
> >
> > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in
> 1996,
> > Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out
> of BOC
>
> > for nearly 30...
> >
> > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:
> http://www.bluecoupeband.com
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: BOC
> >>
> >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
> >> between Albert and the band, now ...
> >>
> >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's
> basically
> >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
> >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ...
> write
> >> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go
> that
> >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
> >>
> >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
> >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> >>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> >>> Subject: BOC
> >>>
> >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
> >> contained
> >>> some exposure-
> >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> >>> one.......
> >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the
> ranks
> >>> absolutely impossible??
> >>> squeezing into the old getup??
> >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
> >> opposed
> >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carl Edlund Anderson
> >> http://www.carlaz.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 17 09:43:23 2010
From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 06:43:23 -0700
Subject: HW: A new project for the List?
In-Reply-To: <201009101342.o8ADgv5D004393@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.064323.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
FOFP said...
>
> Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based
> on the
> Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an
> agreed set of
> 54 pictures and upload them to the website.
>
> We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so
> as to prevent
> any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might
> volunteer their good piccies.
Well, nobody else seems to think so perhaps, but I think this is a great idea. I always liked when we did list projects (anybody want to continue the HW Covers All series? There?s been a lot of new stuff since I did the Vols. 5-8)...plus the old tapes 1-4 need to be digitized to CD/MP3...perhaps I can do that this fall myself). Too bad that people just aren?t as energized as in the old days of the list.
Anyway, I thought about this, and drew up a rough draft of personnel to include. Ideas, comments, suggestions, errors of obmission, etc. welcome.
Era 1 Era 2 Era 3 Era 4
Card Hearts Spades Diamonds Clubs
Ace Turner Lemmy Calvert Brock
King Huwy King Davey Chadwick
Queen Stacia Sam Fox Wishart Kris Tait
Jack DAnderson AShaw Bainbridge Dibs
10 Ollis House GBaker RonTree
9 Dettmar Blake KHale JStuart
8 DougSmith MGriffin DThompson CRizz
7 Slattery Rudolph Dumpy JRichards
6 Smeeton (LL) Fulcher (BB) Frenchy Neil/Marie
5 DikMik Swindells PHayles Kniveton
4 JHarrison Powell AAnderson ABrown
3 DTaylor BTawn SBemand Hone
2 Crimble KingsleyWard CDeamer STaylor
Jokers MMoorcock MWright
Other possible names that haven?t been included here...
Jez Huggett
Tony Crerar
Trev Hughes
Doug Buckley
Roger Neville-Neil
Crum
Jim Lascko
Drachen Theaker (was he in HW?)
Fred Reeves
Chris/Mary Bruce
Colin Allen
Rob Heaton
Keef Barton
Rob Godwin (Griffin)
Marc Sperhawk
Rob Ayling (Voiceprint)
Ian Abrahams
Carol Clark
some of the other dancers, including current F pair and the excellent M/F pair from c. 2004-2005 (whose names I do not know, but pictures should be available from both sets)
Anyway, this is just a start. I tried to group them according to era as indicated, and then also try to group some by instrument or role for each set of numbers, starting at Jack (bassists), with some obvious exceptions. It?s hard to do...some eras have lots of one thing, other eras lots of something different. But 5s and 9s are keyboardists, 7s guitarists, 6s visuals/behind the scenes people. The lower cards are just a random mix of people with short terms or whatever. Perhaps some of these names would be changed after discussion. The aces just seem to have to be these four people, and the queens I put as all women (hence, Sam Fox), and Simon King has to be a King natch. Calvert doesn?t match his group?s era classification, but someone had to be an anomaly here.
Maybe we should just abandon the idea of making each number card across the suits be a particular instrument/role...it?s just not working all that good, and some people end up too high/low in the order accordingly. Discuss.
The big problem as I see it is...how to get all good quality photos, esp. if you are not going to violate copyrights. We can all contribute recent stuff, but where are you going to find minor role players from the 80s like Clive Deamer, except if you?ve been to a Portishead show in recent years? And what about Powell, Rudolph, BTawn, etc. etc.
Plus, are you going to mix promo head shots with stage shots, B&W with colour, and most importantly, do all photos have to come from their days with HW? I mean, it is now easy to get shots of Slattery, DAnderson, Crimble, and Ollis, with Space Ritual, but they are all 40 years older than they were when they were in the band. (And Dick Taylor played at Hawkfest, but again he doesn?t look like he did in 1970...still plays pretty good though.) I dunno...this project will take some work...perhaps Ian Abrahams has some access to some photos from the past that could be used. Is he still here?
Just my thoughts...didn?t want the idea to die without some stronger consideration...
Keith H. (Karlsruhe, DE)
P.S. Was Steve Bemand the "frontman" for TOSH at Hawkfest this year? You know, he?s not bad...in fact, TOSH was dangerously close to being every bit as good as Tim Blake?s Hawkwind the previous night. :)
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 17 11:41:49 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:41:49 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.104149.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention to
this AM)
because of you......
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Sep 17 11:54:22 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:54:22 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikw2JqpwU1EpzidX9Vk-j9Wc9jbaoa4p7X7MpQN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.115422.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Ha?
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of mike coleman
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention to
this AM) because of you......
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 17 12:06:15 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:06:15 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
In-Reply-To: <98E3EE7655594739AD589E683687D578@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.110615.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
oh typo for typo I see....I was having revenge on your reader for singling
me out : )
On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Ha?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
> On
> Behalf Of mike coleman
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
>
> Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention to
> this AM) because of you......
>
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Sep 17 12:18:53 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:18:53 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinFg7FNvHCbZPA3kWf17GL75Y4o+SS+f9wkV0VR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.121853.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Rightfully so Mr. Caulim, (that's what it calls you., now.)
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of mike coleman
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:06 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFF) Update re; Mary
oh typo for typo I see....I was having revenge on your reader for singling
me out : )
On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Ha?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
> On
> Behalf Of mike coleman
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
>
> Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm
> mention to this AM) because of you......
>
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Sep 17 12:18:53 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:18:53 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikw2JqpwU1EpzidX9Vk-j9Wc9jbaoa4p7X7MpQN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.121853.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Mike, now I get it, sorry, I'm not thinking as clearly as I'd be normally,
thanks to the support from everyone on the forums it's been better than
anything anyone else could do. I'm a very rich person to have such good
friends. I want to thank everyone, with a special thanks to Mike for
alerting everyone to my situation, although it's not relevant to the forum.
The postings I've been sent, both private and on the forum have been good
for my soul. I wish I could visit with everyone through a virtual reality
and really get time to interact on a personal level. Without the love from
my friends I would not be coping nearly as well. This all does feel unreal,
still, but, I know, that's par for the course.
Thanks again to everyone for your loving care.
Mike, you're so precise and often concise, I like to be sure I don't miss
your meaning. You've been like a brother to me with your guidance strength,
and kindness.
Believe it or not, I'm lost for words, so I'll end this here.
Love to all,,
Mary
P.S. I'd thank everyone individually here, but that would take a bit of
time.
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of mike coleman
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention to
this AM) because of you......
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 17 12:21:37 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:21:37 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinFg7FNvHCbZPA3kWf17GL75Y4o+SS+f9wkV0VR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.112137.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I see she's not rushing to unembarass me-
hopefully my meaning of
phone conversation previous days: "unintelligible unitelligible, word made
out, unintelligible" to
today "coherent" was conveyed and yes I am exaggerating here as usual.....
the effect of those here involved is glaring to put it mildly and of course
it hasn't even sunk in but ......
On 9/17/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> oh typo for typo I see....I was having revenge on your reader for singling
> me out : )
>
>
> On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ha?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]
>> On
>> Behalf Of mike coleman
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:42 AM
>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>> Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
>>
>> Nothing short of miraculous (from my observation, from pre-fourm mention
>> to
>> this AM) because of you......
>>
>
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 17 12:32:39 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:32:39 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
In-Reply-To: <656D53FB048C43AE8D48FC8EB3DE6985@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.113239.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Rightfully so Mr. Caulim, (that's what it calls you., now.)
God knows how terribly stupid I ALREADY sound, especially at that most
insane high-speed.....why can't it take it's sweet time making strange radio
signal noises fading in and out and announce me by saying "you are receiving
a message from deep space??
From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 17 12:36:22 2010
From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams)
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:36:22 +0000
Subject: HW: A new project for the List?
In-Reply-To: <522391.42570.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.17.SEP.2010.163622.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
________________________________
From: K
Still here, Keith!
________________________________
From: Keith Henderson <khenders64 at YAHOO.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 2:43:23 PM
Subject: Re: HW: A new project for the List?
FOFP said...
>
> Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based
> on the
> Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an
> agreed set of
> 54 pictures and upload them to the website.
>
> We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so
> as to prevent
> any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might
> volunteer their good piccies.
Well, nobody else seems to think so perhaps, but I think this is a great idea.?
I always liked when we did list projects (anybody want to continue the HW Covers
All series?? There?s been a lot of new stuff since I did the Vols. 5-8)...plus
the old tapes 1-4 need to be digitized to CD/MP3...perhaps I can do that this
fall myself).? Too bad that people just aren?t as energized as in the old days
of the list.
Anyway, I thought about this, and drew up a rough draft of personnel to
include.? Ideas, comments, suggestions, errors of obmission, etc. welcome.
? ? ? ? ? ? Era 1? ? ? ? ? Era 2? ? ? ? ? Era 3? ? ? ? ? Era 4
Card? ? ? ? Hearts? ? ? ? ? Spades? ? ? ? Diamonds? ? ? Clubs
Ace? ? ? ? Turner? ? ? ? ? Lemmy? ? ? ? ? Calvert? ? ? ? Brock
King? ? ? ? Huwy? ? ? ? ? ? King? ? ? ? ? Davey? ? ? ? ? Chadwick
Queen? ? ? Stacia? ? ? ? ? Sam Fox? ? ? ? Wishart? ? ? ? Kris Tait
Jack? ? ? ? DAnderson? ? ? AShaw? ? ? ? ? Bainbridge? ? Dibs
10? ? ? ? ? Ollis? ? ? ? ? House? ? ? ? ? GBaker? ? ? ? RonTree
9? ? ? ? ? Dettmar? ? ? ? Blake? ? ? ? ? KHale? ? ? ? ? JStuart
8? ? ? ? ? DougSmith? ? ? MGriffin? ? ? DThompson? ? ? CRizz
7? ? ? ? ? Slattery? ? ? ? Rudolph? ? ? ? Dumpy? ? ? ? ? JRichards
6? ? ? ? ? Smeeton (LL)? ? Fulcher (BB)? Frenchy? ? ? ? Neil/Marie
5? ? ? ? ? DikMik? ? ? ? ? Swindells? ? ? PHayles? ? ? ? Kniveton
4? ? ? ? ? JHarrison? ? ? Powell? ? ? ? AAnderson? ? ? ABrown
3? ? ? ? ? DTaylor? ? ? ? BTawn? ? ? ? ? SBemand? ? ? ? Hone
2? ? ? ? ? Crimble? ? ? ? KingsleyWard? CDeamer? ? ? ? STaylor
Jokers? ? ? MMoorcock? ? ? MWright
Other possible names that haven?t been included here...
Jez Huggett
Tony Crerar
Trev Hughes
Doug Buckley
Roger Neville-Neil
Crum
Jim Lascko
Drachen Theaker (was he in HW?)
Fred Reeves
Chris/Mary Bruce
Colin Allen
Rob Heaton
Keef Barton
Rob Godwin (Griffin)
Marc Sperhawk
Rob Ayling (Voiceprint)
Ian Abrahams
Carol Clark
some of the other dancers, including current F pair and the excellent M/F pair
from c. 2004-2005 (whose names I do not know, but pictures should be available
from both sets)
Anyway, this is just a start.? I tried to group them according to era as
indicated, and then also try to group some by instrument or role for each set of
numbers, starting at Jack (bassists), with some obvious exceptions.? It?s hard
to do...some eras have lots of one thing, other eras lots of something
different.? But 5s and 9s are keyboardists, 7s guitarists, 6s visuals/behind the
scenes people.? The lower cards are just a random mix of people with short terms
or whatever.? Perhaps some of these names would be changed after discussion.?
The aces just seem to have to be these four people, and the queens I put as all
women (hence, Sam Fox), and Simon King has to be a King natch.? Calvert doesn?t
match his group?s era classification, but someone had to be an anomaly here.
Maybe we should just abandon the idea of making each number card across the
suits be a particular instrument/role...it?s just not working all that good, and
some people end up too high/low in the order accordingly.? Discuss.
The big problem as I see it is...how to get all good quality photos, esp. if you
are not going to violate copyrights.? We can all contribute recent stuff, but
where are you going to find minor role players from the 80s like Clive Deamer,
except if you?ve been to a Portishead show in recent years?? And what about
Powell, Rudolph, BTawn, etc. etc.
Plus, are you going to mix promo head shots with stage shots, B&W with colour,
and most importantly, do all photos have to come from their days with HW?? I
mean, it is now easy to get shots of Slattery, DAnderson, Crimble, and Ollis,
with Space Ritual, but they are all 40 years older than they were when they were
in the band.? (And Dick Taylor played at Hawkfest, but again he doesn?t look
like he did in 1970...still plays pretty good though.)? I dunno...this project
will take some work...perhaps Ian Abrahams has some access to some photos from
the past that could be used.? Is he still here?
Just my thoughts...didn?t want the idea to die without some stronger
consideration...
Keith H. (Karlsruhe, DE)
P.S.? Was Steve Bemand the "frontman" for TOSH at Hawkfest this year?? You know,
he?s not bad...in fact, TOSH was dangerously close to being every bit as good as
Tim Blake?s Hawkwind the previous night. :)
From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Sat Sep 18 00:52:42 2010
From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 04:52:42 +0000
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <201009171320.o8HDK7fF004239@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <SAT.18.SEP.2010.045242.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> You'd think that before they gave the police their uniforms, they'd
> require them to know that impersonating a Pope isn't illegal.
I don't think an attached brain is part of their job requirements.
Any people arrested for taking pictures of that?
Gr,
Arjan H
---------------------------------------------
Rock in the 70ies:
substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 18 08:37:24 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:37:24 -0500
Subject: HW: A new project for the List?
In-Reply-To: <522391.42570.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.18.SEP.2010.073724.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/17/10, Keith Henderson <khenders64 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> FOFP said...
> >
> > Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based
> > on the
> > Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an
> > agreed set of
> > 54 pictures and upload them to the website.
> >
> > We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so
> > as to prevent
> > any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might
> > volunteer their good piccies.
>
> Well, nobody else seems to think so perhaps, but I think this is a great
> idea.
*Could it be that they might need antidepressant medication or mood
stabilizers when viewing the deck??*
*:P*
*Great job Keith.... I am simpy incapable and my folders of photos were
stolen by my family in a revenge plot...*
**
**
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 18 11:39:55 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:39:55 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <201009171320.o8HDK7fF004239@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <SAT.18.SEP.2010.103955.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I'd love to throw on a green (nik-turner style) dreadlock wig, and have a
dopemobile to drive down the street throwing out bags of oregano (and
waving), but I fear the police would not be my (biggest problem) then.....
Of course the humour in this to me, is that I don't even smoke dope anymore,
and care less about it generally....
I really did put up a good show and I cursed and chewed them out, and while
it certainly would be a decent video my performance was less than a 10, as I
failed to shove the UFO thing at them properly when telling them society was
a joke to me, etc, etc
I did tell them that I will attack anyone....
Next time they ask what I am doing here, I will say that I hear a lady in
#1024 gives "skin darkening", an that I am on my way to have my skin
"tinted"
On 9/17/10, M Holmes <fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> mike coleman writes:
>
> > Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me
> for
> > being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or
> the
> > mental institution, I need sympathy...
>
> That happened to someone here yesterday just because he was dressed like
> the Pope and had his own Popemobile.
>
> You'd think that before they gave the police their uniforms, they'd
> require them to know that impersonating a Pope isn't illegal.
>
> FoFP
>
>
> --
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 18 11:45:09 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:45:09 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Mary''s Brother
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim8BMz0SKxUoz9rwuU0YQoKjto2tXe5B1Occq=4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.18.SEP.2010.104509.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Ooops, after the chewing of course came THE LAUGHTER
The best part
sorry folks and what is with that squeezing the hell out of just 2 fingers??
At least the guy doing that stopped when asked
On 9/18/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd love to throw on a green (nik-turner style) dreadlock wig, and have a
> dopemobile to drive down the street throwing out bags of oregano (and
> waving), but I fear the police would not be my (biggest problem) then.....
> Of course the humour in this to me, is that I don't even smoke dope
> anymore, and care less about it generally....
> I really did put up a good show and I cursed and chewed them out, and while
> it certainly would be a decent video my performance was less than a 10, as I
> failed to shove the UFO thing at them properly when telling them society was
> a joke to me, etc, etc
> I did tell them that I will attack anyone....
> Next time they ask what I am doing here, I will say that I hear a lady in
> #1024 gives "skin darkening", an that I am on my way to have my skin
> "tinted"
>
>
>
> On 9/17/10, M Holmes <fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> mike coleman writes:
>>
>> > Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking me
>> for
>> > being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or
>> the
>> > mental institution, I need sympathy...
>>
>> That happened to someone here yesterday just because he was dressed like
>> the Pope and had his own Popemobile.
>>
>> You'd think that before they gave the police their uniforms, they'd
>> require them to know that impersonating a Pope isn't illegal.
>>
>> FoFP
>>
>>
>> --
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>
>
>
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 18 12:35:43 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:35:43 -0500
Subject: (OFF) Not Mary''s Brother
Message-ID: <SAT.18.SEP.2010.113543.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I am totally sorry for the 100th time sending so many posts-
I am totally sorry that unlike yourselves I have nothing better to dio at
the moment than to beg forgiveness that I need to explain--- that when I
mention "attacking people", it simple means "psychologically beating up
upon", and my (rather limited) life does seem to have that shoe fitting
nicely and I insult everything everywhere I go all the while keeping enough
humor in it to make it stick...
I am a free man for a reason....however I do have guts .....but harm
inncoent decent people in any way I think not!!!
On 9/18/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ooops, after the chewing of course came THE LAUGHTER
> The best part
> sorry folks and what is with that squeezing the hell out of just 2
> fingers??
> At least the guy doing that stopped when asked
>
> On 9/18/10, mike coleman <insect.brain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'd love to throw on a green (nik-turner style) dreadlock wig, and have a
>> dopemobile to drive down the street throwing out bags of oregano (and
>> waving), but I fear the police would not be my (biggest problem) then.....
>> Of course the humour in this to me, is that I don't even smoke dope
>> anymore, and care less about it generally....
>> I really did put up a good show and I cursed and chewed them out, and
>> while it certainly would be a decent video my performance was less than a
>> 10, as I failed to shove the UFO thing at them properly when telling them
>> society was a joke to me, etc, etc
>> I did tell them that I will attack anyone....
>> Next time they ask what I am doing here, I will say that I hear a lady in
>> #1024 gives "skin darkening", an that I am on my way to have my skin
>> "tinted"
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/17/10, M Holmes <fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> mike coleman writes:
>>>
>>> > Now, after attacking the police last night for accosting and frisking
>>> me for
>>> > being a human being walking down my own street, nearly going to jail or
>>> the
>>> > mental institution, I need sympathy...
>>>
>>> That happened to someone here yesterday just because he was dressed like
>>> the Pope and had his own Popemobile.
>>>
>>> You'd think that before they gave the police their uniforms, they'd
>>> require them to know that impersonating a Pope isn't illegal.
>>>
>>> FoFP
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>>>
>>
>>
>
From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Sep 20 08:44:00 2010
From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:44:00 -0400
Subject: BOC
Message-ID: <MON.20.SEP.2010.084400.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I never bought the Koch release, but did see it on the shelves and never saw anything about an extra track (and believe me, I would have gotten it if did). I believe at the time Club Ninja was "out of print" so this release was hailed as bringing back the album - it did have new liner notes by Arthur Levy, I believe - he did liner notes for the "Workshop of the Telescopes" compilation and maybe something else (I seem to recall that Bolle didn't like the guy's liner notes).
John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> I thought the CD, Koch's reissue, had a label advertising an extra track,
> remember it made a big deal about Howard Stern being on the album. Still
> have
> the LP, I think.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 7:25:47 AM
> Subject: Re: BOC
>
> Club Ninja has be "re-issued" a few times, but I believe there were no
> extras
> (other than maybe some enhanced liner notes).
>
> Cultosaurus WAS remastered in Europe, back before Sony started remastering
> the
> first 3 discs, and it contains no bonus tracks (but does restore the
> downbeat of
> "Deadline", which got cut on the original CD version of Cultosaurus - if
> memory
> serves)
>
> John
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: BOC
> >
> > Yeah, I think they've reissued "Club Ninja" with extras and it's one of
> my
> > least
> > favorites, hell probably the worst, in my opinion. "Imaginos" is the
> best,
> > since
> > Albert was in the band. Hmm...coincidence?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 11:53:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: BOC
> >
> > Indeed, they did not.? Which is a shame.
> >
> > Of course ... the holy grail would be ... an Imaginos upgrade! :)
> >
> > Shortly after the devil straps on his ice skates ..... ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Carl
> >
> > On 15 Sep 2010, at 09:26 , gary shindler wrote:
> >
> > > If I'm right they never reissued "Fire of Unknown Origin," "Mirrors" or
> > > "Cultosaurus Erectus" with extra tracks, did they? That"Some Enchanted
> > Evening"
> > >
> > > reissue is a goodie.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "Swartz, John A." <jswartz at MITRE.ORG>
> > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > > Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 7:44:58 AM
> > > Subject: Re: BOC
> > >
> > > Right.? BOC only has Buck and Eric from the original line-up.? The
> "other
> > guys"
> > >
> > > (Jules Radono on drums, Richie Castellano on guitar/keys and formerly
> on
> > bass,
> >
> > > and the awesome Rudy Sarzo on bass) are great in their own right and do
> > breathe
> > >
> > > some life into the live BOC act, but they're just a touring band these
> > days
> > >(not
> > >
> > > that there's anything wrong with that).? Allen Lanier...well, I can't
> say
> > I
> > >know
> > >
> > > what's up with the guy, but by the time he left the band now over 5
> years
> > ago,
> >
> > > he looked and played as shell of his former self - I don't mean to
> knock
> > the
> > > guy, but it was no secret that he physically couldn't handle touring
> > anymore.
> >
> > > The Bouchards may not tour quite as much as BOC, but they are still
> > putting out
> > >
> > > new music - my guess is that if/when a day comes that they can't tour,
> > they'll
> >
> > > still be putting out music.
> > >
> > > The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of
> > "reunion"
> > > project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans (maybe a few
> > > thousand?), and that's it.? And I don't assume you could add lasers in
> > any way
> >
> > > for a club-sized gig.? I mean, look at the BOC remasters.? Those of us
> > that
> > > bought them I think were very happy to have them, but commercially it
> > appears
> > > they were a bust - so much that Sony appears to have pulled the plug on
> > > completing the project.? A real shame - I was just listening to the
> first
> > 3 BOC
> > >
> > > albums the other day and love the bonus tracks.? And a bonus DVD of the
> > laser
> > > era show included with *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)?
> > Well how
> > >
> > > COOL is that?? And yet, sales were lackluster.
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's a comparison for you - when KISS did their big reunion thing in
> > 1996,
> > > Peter Criss had been out of the band for 15 years.? Albert has been out
> > of BOC
> >
> > > for nearly 30...
> > >
> > > Now, go check out some new BOC-related music at:
> > http://www.bluecoupeband.com
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea at CARLAZ.COM]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:23 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: BOC
> > >>
> > >> While once upon a time it might have been cool to see a reconciliation
> > >> between Albert and the band, now ...
> > >>
> > >> ... well, there's barely any band with which to reconcile!? It's
> > basically
> > >> Buck and Bloom and "some guys" (marvelous those those guys might be in
> > >> their way). You only need a songwriter if you're gonna ... well ...
> > write
> > >> songs!? And is there much sign that Buck and Bloom really want to go
> > that
> > >> way? If they do, they're hiding it well!
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Carl
> > >>
> > >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 13:54 , gary shindler wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Doubt Albert would go back and I guess they don't play TX because the
> > >> state lacks casinos or cheesy barbecue festivals?! Or am I wrong?
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:26:50 pm
> > >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> > >>> From: "mike coleman" <insect.brain at GMAIL.COM>
> > >>> Subject: BOC
> > >>>
> > >>> It's no secret that I am BOC challenged, though my youth certianly
> > >> contained
> > >>> some exposure-
> > >>> I was wandering, if maybe, just maybe, one could get a glimpse of the
> > >>> sinister forces at play by looking at T.O.T episode 19 from season
> > >>> one.......
> > >>> and further, is getting their prolific pen and drummer back in the
> > ranks
> > >>> absolutely impossible??
> > >>> squeezing into the old getup??
> > >>> has laser technology improved and become more mobile??
> > >>> wouldn't this bring them to Dallas and Houston (and the others) as
> > >> opposed
> > >>> to the cities that seem to make no sense??
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carl Edlund Anderson
> > >> http://www.carlaz.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Carl Edlund Anderson
> > http://www.carlaz.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Sep 20 11:19:16 2010
From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 15:19:16 +0000
Subject: Hawkfest videos:
Message-ID: <MON.20.SEP.2010.151916.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hello, did anyone get any video footage of the One Eyed Bishops set at Hawkfest 2010?
Peace, Mike Burro
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 20 20:35:35 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:35:35 -0400
Subject: (OFF) Update re; Mary
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinDFXzKqjSCGz++7QYBdmzSxoeXpRn9wTYu1B36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.20.SEP.2010.203535.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
That would be better.
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of mike coleman
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:33 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFF) Update re; Mary
On 9/17/10, mary ann sullivan <maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Rightfully so Mr. Caulim, (that's what it calls you., now.)
God knows how terribly stupid I ALREADY sound, especially at that most
insane high-speed.....why can't it take it's sweet time making strange radio
signal noises fading in and out and announce me by saying "you are receiving
a message from deep space??
From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 21 07:05:55 2010
From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:05:55 +0100
Subject: BOC
In-Reply-To: <DBC56FBD6DD45240BCF21CA032A46534117ED2E29C@IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG>
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.120555.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Swartz, John A. wrote:
> The more harsh reality though, is that at this point, any sort of
> "reunion" project would be excitely welcomed by a few hundred fans
> (maybe a few thousand?), and that's it. And I don't assume you could
> add lasers in any way for a club-sized gig. I mean, look at the BOC
> remasters. Those of us that bought them I think were very happy to have
> them, but commercially it appears they were a bust - so much that Sony
> appears to have pulled the plug on completing the project. A real shame
> - I was just listening to the first 3 BOC albums the other day and love
> the bonus tracks. And a bonus DVD of the laser era show included with
> *Some Enchanted Evening* (my first BOC album)? Well how COOL is that?
> And yet, sales were lackluster.
Damn, is that any kind of official? I was hoping for good things
from a _Mirrors_ remaster, it's always struck me as an album that needed
freeing from its production, plus which I can't remember ever seeing the
regular CD on sale. CE is one of my favourite BOC albums, too, and if
theres was bonus material from that era I'd love to hear it. FoUO may
be OK as it stands, I guess, already quite digital. ETI wouldn't suffer
too much from a clean-up either. I wonder whether tRBN and CN would really
justify the effort, myself, though. Oh well, yours,
Jon
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 21 09:14:03 2010
From: jjarrett at CORIOLIS.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:14:03 +0100
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <E483663DB5F94D539DD0A2B8C4C3ABF8@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.141403.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, mary ann sullivan wrote:
> P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read Cosmic
> Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept for 3 days, and
> he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded out some folks on the bus
> reading about conspiracy theories, and all. We never did get around to
> reading the books, and last I checked, they're not available to me, unless I
> come up with cash to pay to have them read. During that tour, at the Stone
> in Frisco, a flyer for a Robert Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind
> bus. Weird, but I guess it goes with the territory.
I only found out yesterday that he'd died. I mean, I had
assumed, but I hadn't realised it was so recent. The breaking of such a
thing should have made a greater crack, or however the line goes. Yours,
Jonathan
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Sep 21 10:04:04 2010
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:04:04 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1009211411010.14724@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.100404.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Sep 21, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jonathan Jarrett wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, mary ann sullivan wrote:
>
>> P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read Cosmic
>> Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept for 3 days, and
>> he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded out some folks on the bus
>> reading about conspiracy theories, and all. We never did get around to
>> reading the books, and last I checked, they're not available to me, unless I
>> come up with cash to pay to have them read. During that tour, at the Stone
>> in Frisco, a flyer for a Robert Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind
>> bus. Weird, but I guess it goes with the territory.
>
> I only found out yesterday that he'd died. I mean, I had assumed, but I hadn't realised it was so recent. The breaking of such a thing should have made a greater crack, or however the line goes.
Fliegende Kinderscheisse! I only just learned from your message that Robert Anton Wilson died!!
I agree that it ought to have been more widely known...
Cheers,
Paul.
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 21 12:31:25 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:31:25 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1009211411010.14724@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.123125.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I didn't know till just now, that's a real shame. I knew he wasn't exactly
young in body any longer. Another pioneer off to check out the next realm.
I hope his spirit continues to live and learn on the metaphysical level.
Another loss for us here.
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:14 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, mary ann sullivan wrote:
> P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read
> Cosmic Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept
> for 3 days, and he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded out
> some folks on the bus reading about conspiracy theories, and all. We
> never did get around to reading the books, and last I checked, they're
> not available to me, unless I come up with cash to pay to have them
> read. During that tour, at the Stone in Frisco, a flyer for a Robert
> Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind bus. Weird, but I guess it goes
with the territory.
I only found out yesterday that he'd died. I mean, I had assumed,
but I hadn't realised it was so recent. The breaking of such a thing should
have made a greater crack, or however the line goes. Yours,
Jonathan
--
Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
=======================================================================
"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly
opposite"
-Robert Anton Wilson
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 21 12:31:25 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:31:25 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <5E0A1AE9-9D47-4F3F-AD6F-05B762980A7D@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.123125.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Fliegende Kinderscheisse,
Ha?
Mary
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Paul Mather
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:04 AM
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Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
On Sep 21, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jonathan Jarrett wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, mary ann sullivan wrote:
>
>> P.S. Jon, On the way home from LA in '89 Chris was going to read
>> Cosmic Trigger, or 1 of the Robert Anton Wilson books, but I slept
>> for 3 days, and he ended up reading Macroscope. We'd have weirded
>> out some folks on the bus reading about conspiracy theories, and all.
>> We never did get around to reading the books, and last I checked,
>> they're not available to me, unless I come up with cash to pay to
>> have them read. During that tour, at the Stone in Frisco, a flyer for
>> a Robert Anton Wilson talk was left on the Hawkwind bus. Weird, but I
guess it goes with the territory.
>
> I only found out yesterday that he'd died. I mean, I had assumed,
but I hadn't realised it was so recent. The breaking of such a thing should
have made a greater crack, or however the line goes.
Fliegende Kinderscheisse! I only just learned from your message that Robert
Anton Wilson died!!
I agree that it ought to have been more widely known...
Cheers,
Paul.
From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Sep 21 16:31:09 2010
From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:31:09 +0000
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <C00C96F5EE604B8B8E4C382368DF7723@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.203109.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Fliegende Kinderscheisse,
>
> Ha?
>
Flying kiddie-shit.
Don't ask me......
Gr,
Arjan H
---------------------------------------------
Rock in the 70ies:
substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration
From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Sep 21 17:53:05 2010
From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:53:05 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <20100921203016.M79861@wolfpack.nl>
Message-ID: <TUE.21.SEP.2010.175305.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 21/09/2010 4:31 PM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote:
>> Fliegende Kinderscheisse,
>>
>> Ha?
>>
>
> Flying kiddie-shit.
>
> Don't ask me......
http://www.last.fm/music/Bahlasti+Ompehda/_/Fliegende+Kinderscheisse
:)
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 22 02:55:13 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:55:13 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <4C992941.4020609@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.025513.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I've tried signing into lastfm but they have that incription thing for
security where you need to write the words or letters on the screen. Often
I don't hear the message clearly, or by the time I get into the proper edit
field, I've forgotten what to write, especially when it's a stream of
numbers. I'll try it again. "Flying kitty shit," stile chuckling.
Thanks
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Jerry G
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:53 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
On 21/09/2010 4:31 PM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote:
>> Fliegende Kinderscheisse,
>>
>> Ha?
>>
>
> Flying kiddie-shit.
>
> Don't ask me......
http://www.last.fm/music/Bahlasti+Ompehda/_/Fliegende+Kinderscheisse
:)
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 22 02:55:13 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:55:13 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <20100921203016.M79861@wolfpack.nl>
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.025513.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Thanks, I needed something funny, what a mess my house would be with Kosh,
ak!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:31 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
> Fliegende Kinderscheisse,
>
> Ha?
>
Flying kiddie-shit.
Don't ask me......
Gr,
Arjan H
---------------------------------------------
Rock in the 70ies:
substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Sep 22 08:54:08 2010
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:54:08 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <7F787D717C924C939FDE4E63D0FE2B68@feeleyq0nl12xq>
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.085408.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sorry for not explaining, but fliegende kinderscheisse is from the Principia Discordia (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/38.php) and so figured would be apropos and familiar to all in a thread concerning Robert Anton Wilson. :-) (It's also quoted in the Illuminatus! Trilogy, if I'm not mistaken.)
FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
Cheers,
Paul.
On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:55 AM, mary ann sullivan wrote:
> Thanks, I needed something funny, what a mess my house would be with Kosh,
> ak!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
> Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:31 PM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
>
>> Fliegende Kinderscheisse,
>>
>> Ha?
>>
>
> Flying kiddie-shit.
>
> Don't ask me......
>
> Gr,
>
> Arjan H
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Rock in the 70ies:
> substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration
>
From tim at KALYR.COM Wed Sep 22 09:04:37 2010
From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:04:37 +0100
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <9BC01CE2-7F55-4287-BB81-3A7485357BCC@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.140437.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Paul Mather wrote:
> Sorry for not explaining, but fliegende kinderscheisse is from the
> Principia Discordia (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/38.php) and so
> figured would be apropos and familiar to all in a thread concerning Robert
> Anton Wilson. :-) (It's also quoted in the Illuminatus! Trilogy, if I'm
> not mistaken.)
>
> FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
Fnord!
--
Tim Hall
http://www.kalyr.com/weblog
http://kalyr.fotopic.net
http://twitter.com/kalyr
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 22 09:35:32 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:35:32 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <9BC01CE2-7F55-4287-BB81-3A7485357BCC@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.22.SEP.2010.093532.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
As I posted, I never was able to have his books read to me, I do know who he
was, and know a few book titles. Sadly for now I'm enlightened concerning
his work. Thanks for the added info.
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Paul Mather
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 8:54 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
Sorry for not explaining, but fliegende kinderscheisse is from the Principia
Discordia (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/38.php) and so figured
would be apropos and familiar to all in a thread concerning Robert Anton
Wilson. :-) (It's also quoted in the Illuminatus! Trilogy, if I'm not
mistaken.)
FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
Cheers,
Paul.
On Sep 22, 2010, at 2:55 AM, mary ann sullivan wrote:
> Thanks, I needed something funny, what a mess my house would be with
> Kosh, ak!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:31 PM
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
>
>> Fliegende Kinderscheisse,
>>
>> Ha?
>>
>
> Flying kiddie-shit.
>
> Don't ask me......
>
> Gr,
>
> Arjan H
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Rock in the 70ies:
> substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier
> obliteration
>
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 23 06:02:06 2010
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:02:06 +0100
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: Tim Hall's message of Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:04:37 +0100
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From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 23 09:41:33 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:41:33 -0400
Subject: Palace Springs Longbox?
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.094133.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi friends,
I'm looking for along box of Palace Springs. It's asking a lot, I know, but
I'm willing to pay a lot for this specific item, especially since I have so
many memories from that tour. I'm specifically looking for the longbox, if
anyone can help, I will make it well worth it. I'll be away for a few days,
so I'll be responding after the weekend, when I can check my mail. This is
not a request for "A favor," rather a buisness proposal.
Many thanks,
Mary
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 23 09:57:53 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:57:53 -0400
Subject: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
In-Reply-To: <4C992941.4020609@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.095753.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
My reader pronounced your posting as "kitty, as opposed to kiddie," I know I
seem to have a 1 track mind, concerning cats, but that was the first image
that came to mind. Now we all know the origin of the reference. Thanks,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Jerry G
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 5:53 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: (OFFish) was BBC Now Porcupine Tree
On 21/09/2010 4:31 PM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote:
>> Fliegende Kinderscheisse,
>>
>> Ha?
>>
>
> Flying kiddie-shit.
>
> Don't ask me......
http://www.last.fm/music/Bahlasti+Ompehda/_/Fliegende+Kinderscheisse
:)
From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 23 11:44:06 2010
From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:44:06 -0400
Subject: HW: A new project for the List?
In-Reply-To: <522391.42570.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.114406.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Keith, You obviously put a lot of thought into this project. I want to
thank you for keeping Chris (and me) in mind. For Chris it was work, but a
labor of love, and we both said that the time we spent with Hawkwind, and
all the fans was 1 of the best times in our lives.
Many thanks,
Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Keith Henderson
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:43 AM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: HW: A new project for the List?
FOFP said...
>
> Anyway, we thought it'd be fun to put together a set based on the
> Hawkwind Family Tree. All we need to do is put together an agreed set
> of
> 54 pictures and upload them to the website.
>
> We'd need to collect good pictures from fan collections so as to
> prevent any copyright disputes. So perhaps some here might volunteer
> their good piccies.
Well, nobody else seems to think so perhaps, but I think this is a great
idea. I always liked when we did list projects (anybody want to continue
the HW Covers All series? There?s been a lot of new stuff since I did the
Vols. 5-8)...plus the old tapes 1-4 need to be digitized to CD/MP3...perhaps
I can do that this fall myself). Too bad that people just aren?t as
energized as in the old days of the list.
Anyway, I thought about this, and drew up a rough draft of personnel to
include. Ideas, comments, suggestions, errors of obmission, etc. welcome.
Era 1 Era 2 Era 3 Era 4
Card Hearts Spades Diamonds Clubs
Ace Turner Lemmy Calvert Brock
King Huwy King Davey Chadwick
Queen Stacia Sam Fox Wishart Kris Tait
Jack DAnderson AShaw Bainbridge Dibs
10 Ollis House GBaker RonTree
9 Dettmar Blake KHale JStuart
8 DougSmith MGriffin DThompson CRizz
7 Slattery Rudolph Dumpy JRichards
6 Smeeton (LL) Fulcher (BB) Frenchy Neil/Marie
5 DikMik Swindells PHayles Kniveton
4 JHarrison Powell AAnderson ABrown
3 DTaylor BTawn SBemand Hone
2 Crimble KingsleyWard CDeamer STaylor
Jokers MMoorcock MWright
Other possible names that haven?t been included here...
Jez Huggett
Tony Crerar
Trev Hughes
Doug Buckley
Roger Neville-Neil
Crum
Jim Lascko
Drachen Theaker (was he in HW?)
Fred Reeves
Chris/Mary Bruce
Colin Allen
Rob Heaton
Keef Barton
Rob Godwin (Griffin)
Marc Sperhawk
Rob Ayling (Voiceprint)
Ian Abrahams
Carol Clark
some of the other dancers, including current F pair and the excellent M/F
pair from c. 2004-2005 (whose names I do not know, but pictures should be
available from both sets)
Anyway, this is just a start. I tried to group them according to era as
indicated, and then also try to group some by instrument or role for each
set of numbers, starting at Jack (bassists), with some obvious exceptions.
It?s hard to do...some eras have lots of one thing, other eras lots of
something different. But 5s and 9s are keyboardists, 7s guitarists, 6s
visuals/behind the scenes people. The lower cards are just a random mix of
people with short terms or whatever. Perhaps some of these names would be
changed after discussion. The aces just seem to have to be these four
people, and the queens I put as all women (hence, Sam Fox), and Simon King
has to be a King natch. Calvert doesn?t match his group?s era
classification, but someone had to be an anomaly here.
Maybe we should just abandon the idea of making each number card across the
suits be a particular instrument/role...it?s just not working all that good,
and some people end up too high/low in the order accordingly. Discuss.
The big problem as I see it is...how to get all good quality photos, esp. if
you are not going to violate copyrights. We can all contribute recent
stuff, but where are you going to find minor role players from the 80s like
Clive Deamer, except if you?ve been to a Portishead show in recent years?
And what about Powell, Rudolph, BTawn, etc. etc.
Plus, are you going to mix promo head shots with stage shots, B&W with
colour, and most importantly, do all photos have to come from their days
with HW? I mean, it is now easy to get shots of Slattery, DAnderson,
Crimble, and Ollis, with Space Ritual, but they are all 40 years older than
they were when they were in the band. (And Dick Taylor played at Hawkfest,
but again he doesn?t look like he did in 1970...still plays pretty good
though.) I dunno...this project will take some work...perhaps Ian Abrahams
has some access to some photos from the past that could be used. Is he
still here?
Just my thoughts...didn?t want the idea to die without some stronger
consideration...
Keith H. (Karlsruhe, DE)
P.S. Was Steve Bemand the "frontman" for TOSH at Hawkfest this year? You
know, he?s not bad...in fact, TOSH was dangerously close to being every bit
as good as Tim Blake?s Hawkwind the previous night. :)
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 23 13:34:24 2010
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:34:24 +0100
Subject: Space Bandits here!
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.183424.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
waiting for me when I got home.
Only had time to play bonus tracks and think Out of The Shadows is excellent
and on first listening better than any other version released. Love Simon's
violin.
Disappointment - My interpretations of the lyrics to Images. Never felt the
need to read them before as had my own take on what they were and what it
was about (cheating death on the final day!)
Now I've listened to and read lyrics I can't hear these words being sung.
Seems to be extra words sung to those in the booklet. Oh well a few more
listens in order.
Off to the pub for a meal now.
Steve
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 23 15:03:51 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:03:51 -0500
Subject: Space Bandits here!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqp2nM87_daMz6C2VXQP_jp0Okyq3n530oRQxN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.140351.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 9/23/10, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> waiting for me when I got home.
> Only had time to play bonus tracks and think Out of The Shadows is
> excellent
> and on first listening better than any other version released. Love Simon's
> violin.
> Disappointment - My interpretations of the lyrics to Images. Never felt the
> need to read them before as had my own take on what they were and what it
> was about (cheating death on the final day!)
> Now I've listened to and read lyrics I can't hear these words being sung.
> Seems to be extra words sung to those in the booklet. Oh well a few more
> listens in order.
> Off to the pub for a meal now.
> Steve
I for one am so glad the righteous Mr. Freight shared this.....for selfish
reasons!!! I hope to GOD Mary read this before she left for the PT gigs,
due to it's approach on lyrics......and if I may take my opportunity to "wax
private" with Steve for a sec:
Steve the 45 showed up the next day!!! I can't blame Swann!!! cosmic
payback or will you take the fall??? It freaked him out and I know he's
pissed!!!! hehehehe!!~! and that aside, may I "wax Porcupibe Tree" once
again for a sec?? Could it be that the FIRST USA issue of "Sky Moves
Sideways" on C & S records contains some alternate material to the first, as
opposed to the 3rd issue which appears to break things into subdivisions???
It is all confusing!!!! also, I had no idea that I had indeed homed in
on a quite collectible CD with Yellow Hedgerow. apperently NO plan to
rerelease, and pirate copies in the market....I'm unconvinced that Steven
thinks (the cross) is (all that) weak,,,,,,but then I march to my own drum
and donlt care!!~!!
From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Sep 23 15:15:10 2010
From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:15:10 EDT
Subject: Space Bandits here!
Message-ID: <THU.23.SEP.2010.151510.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I hear tell that the Widow Bruce is traveling south. Traveling with some
hombre from up north from what I can reckon. Well this town ain't big
enough for the 2 of us. Gonna have the boys saddle up the horses and head her
off at the pass.
Yee HAAA
bill
In a message dated 9/23/2010 3:04:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes:
<I hope to GOD Mary read this before she left for the PT gigs
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 24 11:45:47 2010
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:45:47 +0100
Subject: Images - Twisted Lyrics
Message-ID: <FRI.24.SEP.2010.164547.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
As I said in my post regarding receiving Space Bandits I was surprised to
see the real lyrics to Images.
I have been accused of twisting lyrics with a song to fit what I hear but
never the whole song before.
The brain is a funny old thing and must just fill in lyrics that make sense
to me.
Perhaps the booklet explains it when Bridget had to do the song line by line
and perhaps diction wasn?t the main thought in getting the song finished - I
just don?t know.
So before I lose all the lyrics I used to sing I thought I?d share them with
you.
Oh and I?m convinced I?ve heard Richard sing them too!
Images, by Hawkwind, as b******ised by Steve
Memories surround him
Walking to the door
Smells of dust and summer heat
While ordering his thoughts
*Clinging hands, the face of fate*
*Shifting scenes I can?t explain*
*The crazy fool, who sees this face*
*As he tries to cheat life?s final fate*.
Whispers from the balcony
Lingers in the hall
The well worn path of mortality
Appearing here once more
It?s cold now
It?s dark now
Twists the soul
Turns flesh to stone
The fear and the anger
Of the dusk, all alone
Endless dreams of wasted days
Slowly fade away
Laughter now oblitering
There?s now need to stay
--
View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 24 11:50:15 2010
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:50:15 +0100
Subject: Images - Twisted Lyrics
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin3gugzvDPfTAzatt+me5z9ecEqgVsiP8YxyOBh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.24.SEP.2010.165015.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Unless of course the lyrics in the booklet are there to mislead
On 24 September 2010 16:45, Steve Freight <stevefreight at gmail.com> wrote:
> As I said in my post regarding receiving Space Bandits I was surprised to
> see the real lyrics to Images.
>
>
>
> I have been accused of twisting lyrics with a song to fit what I hear but
> never the whole song before.
>
>
>
> The brain is a funny old thing and must just fill in lyrics that make sense
> to me.
>
>
>
> Perhaps the booklet explains it when Bridget had to do the song line by
> line and perhaps diction wasn?t the main thought in getting the song
> finished - I just don?t know.
>
>
>
> So before I lose all the lyrics I used to sing I thought I?d share them
> with you.
>
>
>
> Oh and I?m convinced I?ve heard Richard sing them too!
>
>
>
> Images, by Hawkwind, as b******ised by Steve
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> Memories surround him
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> Walking to the door
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> Smells of dust and summer heat
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> While ordering his thoughts
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> *Clinging hands, the face of fate*
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> *Shifting scenes I can?t explain*
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> *The crazy fool, who sees this face*
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> *As he tries to cheat life?s final fate*.
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> Whispers from the balcony
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> Lingers in the hall
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> The well worn path of mortality
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> Appearing here once more
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> It?s cold now
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> It?s dark now
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> Twists the soul
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> Turns flesh to stone
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> The fear and the anger
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> Of the dusk, all alone
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> Endless dreams of wasted days
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> Slowly fade away
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> Laughter now oblitering
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> There?s now need to stay
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> --
> View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
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View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree
From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 25 20:04:18 2010
From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman)
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:04:18 -0500
Subject: birth of a spacerock trading sight
Message-ID: <SAT.25.SEP.2010.190418.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Dear club members
after more than 2 years or so I decided to learn how to work the buttons on
the "approved" Hawkwind forum, and while it moves so fast it could give me a
headache, I did manage to make a new friend in Munich, and in our
inspiration for stuff (in my case the replacement for the other half), it
seems that something portentially good may have come into being......
www.spacerocktrading.com
I was told it would be a couple weeks in the making, but it looks like he
already got it up.
If anyone is so inclined please pass the word to the yahoo forum....
Mike