From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jun 1 06:28:10 2010 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 10:28:10 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind & Blue Coupe in France Message-ID: Reading about the upcoming festival in France, I would simply like to put in a word about Blue Coupe. I saw the band a few months back and it was fantastic..Not only were Albert & Joe right on, but Dennis Dunaway of the original Alice Cooper band rounds out this trio, and he was great too! I have seen Bouchard, Dunaway and Smith (BDS ) before, as well as The Brain Surgeons, who I really loved. ( we opened for them once in Atlantic City ), but this is a bit special having Al & Joe together again in a regular rock band. You can tell they are really enjoying themselves, and Al told me after the gig, that, he's "having so much fun". I can tell you now, it will be a treat for anyone to see this band with Hawkwind on the same bill.. Anyway, to those who are attending this French concert, "you're lucky"!!! Peace, Mike Burro _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 From charliegrant at NTLWORLD.COM Wed Jun 2 08:54:24 2010 From: charliegrant at NTLWORLD.COM (Chas) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 13:54:24 +0100 Subject: LOST in France? Message-ID: Any chance of stopping off in the UK for a ahow Albert? .......CtGB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Bouchard" To: Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 2:42 AM Subject: Re: LOST in France? That is true. I'm psyched about the gig. We should have our new debut album (with guests Robby Krieger and Tish and Snooky) out by then and will be doing some new stuff from that. It will be the first gig with Hawkwind for Joe and me since Lemmy was the bass player. Al On May 30, 2010, at 8:26 PM, mark wrote: > Not seen it mentioned by anyone but HW have a festival date lined up in > France for 21st August at the Rock Knights festival in La Couvertoirade in > Aveyron. Also on the bill the same night are Blue Coupe offering a bit of > BOC/HAWKIND action for those within travelling distance. > > > > > > More details at http://www.rockknights.com/en/content/line-upprices > > > From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jun 3 10:21:49 2010 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:21:49 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkfest tickets In-Reply-To: <201004291552.o3TFqi9k029698@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi there... Just taking a short break from hiking the AT to check up on things here at "home" in State College. I discover that the Hawkfest ticket I ordered in late April has still not arrived. Has anyone else not gotten theirs, or does anyone know if there's been some problem getting them printed up, sent out, whatever? I would very much like it to arrive before mid-June, as there won't be anyone living here for some time between then and mid-July, and I will already be in Europe then anyway. I've looked at my travel plans and scanned through the online HW forum for hints. I've only booked a flight to Gatwick on the Wednesday two days before HF. Doesn't seem to be a great deal on train in advance. 19 quid to Pompey no matter how far in advance you book. ? Then 8-10 quid for a foot passenger to Ryde. Will probably camp just south of Ryde for two days (9 quid/day), to check out the east end of the island on Thursday. Then a bus to Freshwater Bay on Friday morning to set up (site opens at 9 AM Friday then?). Anybody know any great tricks to saving money down there? Other than Tesco vouchers, whatever those are. No Tesco's in these parts. Not sure what I will do after the festival's over...backtrack out to Pompey same way? And then perhaps go visit Stonehenge? Or should I go up to Darbyshire for this other festival where Alan and the other X-Hawkwinders are playing the following weekend? I will probably head back to London in any case for Gong w/ Hillage and Nik on Sept. 11. Have to go book my ticket for that now. Anything else going on in the UK between Sept. 1 and Sept. 20th?? Ciao....Keith H. (aka Miles Staendig, trail name) P.S. Wow...shocked and delighted to hear that Quimbys yet live and will play again for us at HF. I think I was probably at their last gig, which was either Herzberg c. 2005 or else up in Sunderland around the same time. P.P.S. Any other DarXtar gigs? Would love to see them finally, but won't be coming over for Solstice. Still on the trail here. :( From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 3 10:31:07 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:31:07 -0400 Subject: HW: Stacia Interview on BBC Message-ID: On Tue, 25 May 2010 21:37:02 +0000, Mick Crook wrote: >Brief interview starts around 47 mins..... > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00sl4mb/Im_in_a_Rock_n_Roll_Band!_The_Other_One/?from=r Quite a lot of Lemmy earlier on as well, and appearances from members of both Spinal Tap and Bad News, which has to be worth something. But, I remember back in 1999 with the Hawkestra thing Nik saying that he couldn't manage to track Stacia down. OK, the BBC has more resources maybe, but what do they know that Nick doesn't? Could it actually be true what Mark Radcliffe is supposed to claim, that Stacia is his aunt? Thanks for the link, anyway, a good diversion for a while and some interesting talking heads and footage... Yours, Jon From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Jun 3 10:45:28 2010 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:45:28 -0400 Subject: HW: Stacia Interview on BBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hiya, not heard the radcliffe claim before, but if i remember right, it was known at the time that Stacia was living in Ireland, but maybe communications weren't possible until she started selling her art out there, and her details became available. Whichever it was, I thought she looked stunning and very much with it, and considering it was 30+ years ago, she coukld easily have become "straight" iain -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 3:31 pm Subject: Re: HW: Stacia Interview on BBC On Tue, 25 May 2010 21:37:02 +0000, Mick Crook wrote: >Brief interview starts around 47 mins..... > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00sl4mb/Im_in_a_Rock_n_Roll_Band!_The_Other_One/?from=r Quite a lot of Lemmy earlier on as well, and appearances from members of both Spinal Tap and Bad News, which has to be worth something. But, I remember back in 1999 with the Hawkestra thing Nik saying that he couldn't manage to track Stacia down. OK, the BBC has more resources maybe, but what do they know that Nick doesn't? Could it actually be true what Mark Radcliffe is supposed to claim, that Stacia is his aunt? Thanks for the link, anyway, a good diversion for a while and some interesting talking heads and footage... Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 3 10:54:09 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:54:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? In-Reply-To: <63D036AE-0970-45D5-B626-63DBC863DCA7@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 May 2010, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > (Come to think of it, the last time HW had more than one original member in > the group must have been during the brief period in the early '80s when Nik > Turner had rejoined!) Depends what counts as membership, I think. Nik was back in for a few gigs in a row at the end of 1999 but that might still only be a guest slot by most definitions. (He was good, though, somewhat against my expectations...) And Huw was a member for a while in 2003, even. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jun 3 11:53:36 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:53:36 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 03 Jun 2010, at 09:54, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Nik was back in for a few gigs in a row at the end of 1999 but that > might still only be a guest slot by most definitions. (He was good, > though, somewhat against my expectations...) And Huw was a member > for a while in 2003, even. I remain uncertain as to whether Huw or Mick counts as more original. Perhaps I wouldn't normally count a "guest spot" like that -- but on the other hand it seems like virtually everyone except Dave is effectively in HW as a guest! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 3 12:25:44 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:25:44 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6/3/10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 03 Jun 2010, at 09:54, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > >> Nik was back in for a few gigs in a row at the end of 1999 but that might >> still only be a guest slot by most definitions. (He was good, though, >> somewhat against my expectations...) And Huw was a member for a while in >> 2003, even. >> > > I remain uncertain as to whether Huw or Mick counts as more original. > Perhaps I wouldn't normally count a "guest spot" like that -- but on the > other hand it seems like virtually everyone except Dave is effectively in HW > as a guest! ;) > > Cheers, > Carl I think you had already answered your own question- to me, going my usual "simple route", Huw's appearance on the first actual HW LP firmly plants him as original, Mick didn't make the cut or had taken himself out by the time the band was actually "born proper". But if I allow myself to think, I can imagine Huw supplying Dave guitar strings however far back and Tim Blake allowing us to know of this band by way of the All Saints Hall. Further, while I still remember being confused by Richard Chadwick in 89 when the promo photos pinned up for the gig(s) were still showing an absent Huw and Danny, I think so many years have now passed and Richard is still hanging in there (and I mean I have seen Richard hanging in there), that I think he is NOT a guest....I mean Dave is to Hawkwind what Lemmy is to Motorhead but Richard has done a (helluva) lot of time . I remember being so concerned if my INCESSANT bitching about wanting to get a hotel room because the broken glass I was sleeping on when crammed next to my couple of friends just wasn't my style but those damn Mary Kay women can really suck up hotel rooms, and feared I'd kept him awake when he was trying to sleep in god-knows-what condition himself......more than a guest for Richard From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Fri Jun 4 04:55:37 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 04:55:37 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 3, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #239). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #239) The Megatoids - "Chump Change" (from Too Big To Fail) Sonic Arcana - "Alpha Crucids" (from Past Echoes) Paul Rose Projects - "Plectra View" (from Noisician's Lab) Sendelica - "Spacehopper Blues" (from Streamedelica, She Sighed As She Hit Rewind On The Dream Mangler Remote) Mooch - "John Barleycorn" (from 1966) Stephen Palmer - "Achtundsiebzig" (excerpt) (from I Dream Of Urs Amman) The Smell Of Incense - "Swami" (from A Curious Miscellany) Temple of L.I.B. - "Temple of L.I.B." (from My Name Is Magic) SPACEHEAD SET Spacehead - "Mechanoid Dream"/"Hail the Messiahs" (from In Space We Trust. Live '95-'98) Spacehead - "Standing On The Edge" (from Roadburn 2006) Spacehead - "Astroman" (from .of Stars and Time) Spacehead - "Nuclei" (from Escape Velocity Preview) Spacehead - "Osiris (The Awakening)" (from Explode Into Space: Inhalations 1998-2000) Charles Rice Goff III & Michael LaGrega - "Brea" (from Musique Asphalt Volume One) Trip Lava - "March to Battle" (from Octatroid) Dan Pound - "Point Of The Laser" (from Interlace) Diaz-Infante/Mota/Robair-Rodrigues - "Mi Conde, El Osiosas" (from Our Faceless Empire) Causa Sui - "The Open Road" (from Summer Sessions Vol. 1-3) http://Aural-Innovations.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 4 15:13:22 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:13:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend Message-ID: What's it like getting excited about the weekend?? I've forgotten- I wanted to further say that I see everyone who's gone through Hawkwind or is still in as the most delightful charcarters there are in the psychedelic kingdom. It's simplty that the way things are, if you take Dave out of the equation it just seems appropriate to come up with a another name!!! (is that really that terrible? is money really that great?) According to my own philosophy, this would make Nik a sort of "Fast Nikkie" ..... and the bit about Richard was because how cool the chaos is and was------ He was hanging with the fans ... and not to forget Chadwind 98.... These are the things that make life more tolerable- It's better than being able to say I was worried I kept John Bonham awake with my bitching....... ps- I'm also thinking if you make it onto a Hawkwind album, that kinda like being a member for that moment isn't it- anyway, happy weekend On 6/3/10, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 6/3/10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >> On 03 Jun 2010, at 09:54, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> >>> Nik was back in for a few gigs in a row at the end of 1999 but that might >>> still only be a guest slot by most definitions. (He was good, though, >>> somewhat against my expectations...) And Huw was a member for a while in >>> 2003, even. >>> >> >> I remain uncertain as to whether Huw or Mick counts as more original. >> Perhaps I wouldn't normally count a "guest spot" like that -- but on the >> other hand it seems like virtually everyone except Dave is effectively in HW >> as a guest! ;) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl > > > > I think you had already answered your own question- to me, going my usual > "simple route", Huw's appearance on the first actual HW LP firmly plants him > as original, Mick didn't make the cut or had taken himself out by the time > the band was actually "born proper". But if I allow myself to think, I can > imagine Huw supplying Dave guitar strings however far back and Tim Blake > allowing us to know of this band by way of the All Saints Hall. Further, > while I still remember being confused by Richard Chadwick in 89 when the > promo photos pinned up for the gig(s) were still showing an absent Huw and > Danny, I think so many years have now passed and Richard is still hanging in > there (and I mean I have seen Richard hanging in there), that I think he is > NOT a guest....I mean Dave is to Hawkwind what Lemmy is to Motorhead but > Richard has done a (helluva) lot of time . I remember being so concerned > if my INCESSANT bitching about wanting to get a hotel room because the > broken glass I was sleeping on when crammed next to my couple of friends > just wasn't my style but those damn Mary Kay women can really suck up hotel > rooms, and feared I'd kept him awake when he was trying to sleep in > god-knows-what condition himself......more than a guest for Richard > > > From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Sun Jun 6 19:50:33 2010 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:50:33 -0400 Subject: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale In-Reply-To: <372985.1690.qm@web86207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi. Here's a list of some Space Rock and Progressive Rock CD's from my collection that I'm parting with. All are in excellent condition. CD's are 10 US dollars each plus the cost of shipping. Double CDs are the same price as singles-10 dollars. Please contact me at EliPXR5 at aol.com so I can let you know that the CD you want is still available. Payments can be made by Paypal, or US Postal money orders. Thanks in advance for any interest. Band-Title-Label Amorphis-Tuonela-Relapse Ashra-Sauce Hollandaise-Manikin Records Ashra-(Untitled) Live In Japan 1998-Think Progressive Atom God-History Rewritten-Progressive Architectural Metaphor-Strange Daze Limited Edition-ArcMet-Ultra Rare CDR Ayreon-Flight of the Navigators-Century Media Brainticket-Celestial Ocean-Purple Pyramid Paul Chain-Sign From Space-Beard of Stars Cluster-First Encounter Tour 1996- Purple Pyramid-includes Rare live track by The Brain with Tommy Grenas Cluster-Japan 1998 Live-Soul Holger Czukay-Moving Pictures-Purple Pyramid Dead Flowers-Moontan-Mystic Stones Rare Dead Flowers-Altered States Circus-Delerium The Falcon Project Presents-The Revenge of Sonic Soular-Idol Larry Fast-Synergy-Third Contact F/i- Helioscopium-Ceres F/i-Space Mantra-Lexicon Devil Gormenghast (A Fantasy Opera by Irmin Schmidt of CAN- Spoon Records Iluvater-A Story Two Days Wide-Kinesis Judge Trev's Inner City Unit-Now You Know The Score- Judgement Records King Black Acid-Loves A Long Song-Cavity Search Krom Lek-Collective Conscious-Stone Premonitions Kron Lek-A Breath of Fresh Air- Stone Premonitions Krom Lek-Psychedelic Dot Krom-Stone Premonitions Man-First Self Titled "Man"-Point Mandragora-Temple Ball Live '94-Mystic Stones Mandragora-Earthdance-Mystic Stones includes Niall Hone of Hawkwind on 2 tracks Mandragora-Pollen-Delerium Scott McGill, Michael Manring, and Vic Stevens-Addition by Subtraction-Free Electric Sound with Jordan Rudess Mellonova-Mellonova-Aporia Melting Euphoria-She Wanted To Take Us Over The Edge Of The World-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Inside The Gardens Of The Mind-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Beyond The Maybe Machine-Cleopatra Melting euphoria-Upon The Solar Winds-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Through The Strands of Time-Stratospheric Records Mr. Quimby's Beard - The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of-Stone Premonitions Mr. Quimby's Beard - The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of-Freaky Funghi Nukli-The Time Factory-Delerium Omnia Opera=Omnia Opera-Delerium Pendragon-The Masquerade Overture-Snapper Classics-DigiPack Quarkspace-Live Orion-Eternity's Jest Quarkspace-The Hidden Moon-Eternity's Jest 2 CD set in nice cardboard sleeve Sheavy-Celestial Hi-Fi-Rise Above Ship of Fools-Out There Somewhere-Dreamtime /Rare Sleep-Sleep's Holy Mountain-Earache Soma-Dreamtime-Beard of Stars Soma-Epsilopn - Rune Spaceship Eyes-Truth In The Eyes Of A Spaceship-Hypnotic ST37-Nunavut-Blue Circle 2 CD set in cardboard sleeve Various Artists -Frenchy Scissorhands!!!The True Story of Flicknife-Flicknife Records/ 2 Hawkwind tracks Various Artists-Space Daze 2000-Cleopatra includes Hawkwind, Roxy Music, Bowie, Klause Schulze, Anubian Lights,Kraftwerk, Melting Euphoria Fripp and Eno and others From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Mon Jun 7 04:55:22 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:55:22 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Kozmik Ken Experience Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 7, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW I've uploaded a new show from The Kozmik Ken Experience (June 2010). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html The Kozmik Ken Experience (June 2010) Small Faces - "Happiness Stan" (from Ogdens Nut Gone Flake) Tulitera - "Alpha Blade" (from Alpha) Aurora - "Nevar" (from Demos 2010) Oresund Space Collective - "Slip Into The Vortex" (from Into The Vortex) Farflung - "Endless Drifting Wreck" (from Welcome Back To Meteor City compilation) Earthless - "Cherry Red" (from Rhythms From A Cosmic Sky) Paradise 9 - "Point Of View" (from Nothing For Tomorrow EP) Spirits Of The Earth - "Not Coming Back" (from Not Coming Back EP) Peyote Guru - "Psychedelic Circus" (from Tentative Explorations) Dr Brown - "Magic Cat" (from Live In The Minds Eye) http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 7 06:43:10 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:43:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:13:22 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 7 06:45:15 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:45:15 +0100 Subject: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale In-Reply-To: elipxr5@AOL.COM's message of Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:50:33 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Mon Jun 7 08:03:15 2010 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 08:03:15 -0400 Subject: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale In-Reply-To: <201006071045.o57AjF3k009042@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike. Its a full length CD from the mid 90's by the band Ship of Fools from the UK I don't know much about them other than that the keyboard player went on to join Cradle of Filth! But this CD was good psychedlelia. Someone has already asked for it, by the way. Yours, Eli -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 6:45 am Subject: Re: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale elipxr5 at AOL.COM writes: What's this exactly? > Ship of Fools-Out There Somewhere-Dreamtime /Rare Cheers Mike -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. = From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jun 7 10:19:20 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:19:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Stacia Interview on BBC In-Reply-To: <8CCD1428B5E4AF9-14FC-4077@webmail-m038.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > not heard the radcliffe claim before, but if i remember right, it was > known at the time that Stacia was living in Ireland, but maybe > communications weren't possible until she started selling her art out > there, and her details became available. I had to dig around the archives to find this claim, because of course I heard it here, and actually even then it was hearsay so I should maybe have stated it less definitively: http://listserv.ispnetinc.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9907B&L=BOC-L&P=R3002 > Whichever it was, I thought she looked stunning and very much with it, > and considering it was 30+ years ago, she coukld easily have become > "straight" I agree, it was great to find she was still tuned in to Radio Free Expression, as it were. On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, lucidsound wrote: > That's not strictly true...my memory backstage is that Nik received a text from > her which he read out, saying she hoped everyone had a great time. I seem to > recall she was unavailable because she was meeting the Dali Lama, nothing to do > with not being traceable. Oh, well, not everyone has your access I suppose :-) But again, I know where I got this idea from: http://listserv.ispnetinc.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0009B&L=BOC-L&P=R3569 Blimey, those were the days, eh. Names from the past. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 7 14:16:50 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:16:50 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: <201006071043.o57AhAUD008888@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 6/7/10, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > ps- I'm also thinking if you make it onto a Hawkwind album, that kinda > like > > being a member for that moment isn't it- > Heh. I made it onto that Spaced Out In London CD. Dunno quite how > though. > FoFP I don't have that- I wasn't "well" at the time......tell more!~!! From grison at TELIA.COM Mon Jun 7 18:01:18 2010 From: grison at TELIA.COM (Mats Johansson) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:01:18 +0200 Subject: SV: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale In-Reply-To: <8CCD3EA303D958C-7BC-941@Webmail-m121.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Do you still have the ST-37 CD available? Cheers -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fran: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]For elipxr5 at AOL.COM Skickat: den 7 juni 2010 01:51 Till: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Amne: Re: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale Hi. Here's a list of some Space Rock and Progressive Rock CD's from my collection that I'm parting with. All are in excellent condition. CD's are 10 US dollars each plus the cost of shipping. Double CDs are the same price as singles-10 dollars. Please contact me at EliPXR5 at aol.com so I can let you know that the CD you want is still available. Payments can be made by Paypal, or US Postal money orders. Thanks in advance for any interest. Band-Title-Label Amorphis-Tuonela-Relapse Ashra-Sauce Hollandaise-Manikin Records Ashra-(Untitled) Live In Japan 1998-Think Progressive Atom God-History Rewritten-Progressive Architectural Metaphor-Strange Daze Limited Edition-ArcMet-Ultra Rare CDR Ayreon-Flight of the Navigators-Century Media Brainticket-Celestial Ocean-Purple Pyramid Paul Chain-Sign From Space-Beard of Stars Cluster-First Encounter Tour 1996- Purple Pyramid-includes Rare live track by The Brain with Tommy Grenas Cluster-Japan 1998 Live-Soul Holger Czukay-Moving Pictures-Purple Pyramid Dead Flowers-Moontan-Mystic Stones Rare Dead Flowers-Altered States Circus-Delerium The Falcon Project Presents-The Revenge of Sonic Soular-Idol Larry Fast-Synergy-Third Contact F/i- Helioscopium-Ceres F/i-Space Mantra-Lexicon Devil Gormenghast (A Fantasy Opera by Irmin Schmidt of CAN- Spoon Records Iluvater-A Story Two Days Wide-Kinesis Judge Trev's Inner City Unit-Now You Know The Score- Judgement Records King Black Acid-Loves A Long Song-Cavity Search Krom Lek-Collective Conscious-Stone Premonitions Kron Lek-A Breath of Fresh Air- Stone Premonitions Krom Lek-Psychedelic Dot Krom-Stone Premonitions Man-First Self Titled "Man"-Point Mandragora-Temple Ball Live '94-Mystic Stones Mandragora-Earthdance-Mystic Stones includes Niall Hone of Hawkwind on 2 tracks Mandragora-Pollen-Delerium Scott McGill, Michael Manring, and Vic Stevens-Addition by Subtraction-Free Electric Sound with Jordan Rudess Mellonova-Mellonova-Aporia Melting Euphoria-She Wanted To Take Us Over The Edge Of The World-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Inside The Gardens Of The Mind-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Beyond The Maybe Machine-Cleopatra Melting euphoria-Upon The Solar Winds-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Through The Strands of Time-Stratospheric Records Mr. Quimby's Beard - The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of-Stone Premonitions Mr. Quimby's Beard - The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of-Freaky Funghi Nukli-The Time Factory-Delerium Omnia Opera=Omnia Opera-Delerium Pendragon-The Masquerade Overture-Snapper Classics-DigiPack Quarkspace-Live Orion-Eternity's Jest Quarkspace-The Hidden Moon-Eternity's Jest 2 CD set in nice cardboard sleeve Sheavy-Celestial Hi-Fi-Rise Above Ship of Fools-Out There Somewhere-Dreamtime /Rare Sleep-Sleep's Holy Mountain-Earache Soma-Dreamtime-Beard of Stars Soma-Epsilopn - Rune Spaceship Eyes-Truth In The Eyes Of A Spaceship-Hypnotic ST37-Nunavut-Blue Circle 2 CD set in cardboard sleeve Various Artists -Frenchy Scissorhands!!!The True Story of Flicknife-Flicknife Records/ 2 Hawkwind tracks Various Artists-Space Daze 2000-Cleopatra includes Hawkwind, Roxy Music, Bowie, Klause Schulze, Anubian Lights,Kraftwerk, Melting Euphoria Fripp and Eno and others From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Mon Jun 7 22:39:33 2010 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:39:33 -0400 Subject: SV: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry. It was taken. Yours, Eli -----Original Message----- From: Mats Johansson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 6:01 pm Subject: SV: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale Do you still have the ST-37 CD available? Cheers -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fran: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]For elipxr5 at AOL.COM Skickat: den 7 juni 2010 01:51 Till: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Amne: Re: HW: (off) Space Rock and Progressive CDs for sale Hi. Here's a list of some Space Rock and Progressive Rock CD's from my collection that I'm parting with. All are in excellent condition. CD's are 10 US dollars each plus the cost of shipping. Double CDs are the same price as singles-10 dollars. Please contact me at EliPXR5 at aol.com so I can let you know that the CD you want is still available. Payments can be made by Paypal, or US Postal money orders. Thanks in advance for any interest. Band-Title-Label Amorphis-Tuonela-Relapse Ashra-Sauce Hollandaise-Manikin Records Ashra-(Untitled) Live In Japan 1998-Think Progressive Atom God-History Rewritten-Progressive Architectural Metaphor-Strange Daze Limited Edition-ArcMet-Ultra Rare CDR Ayreon-Flight of the Navigators-Century Media Brainticket-Celestial Ocean-Purple Pyramid Paul Chain-Sign From Space-Beard of Stars Cluster-First Encounter Tour 1996- Purple Pyramid-includes Rare live track by The Brain with Tommy Grenas Cluster-Japan 1998 Live-Soul Holger Czukay-Moving Pictures-Purple Pyramid Dead Flowers-Moontan-Mystic Stones Rare Dead Flowers-Altered States Circus-Delerium The Falcon Project Presents-The Revenge of Sonic Soular-Idol Larry Fast-Synergy-Third Contact F/i- Helioscopium-Ceres F/i-Space Mantra-Lexicon Devil Gormenghast (A Fantasy Opera by Irmin Schmidt of CAN- Spoon Records Iluvater-A Story Two Days Wide-Kinesis Judge Trev's Inner City Unit-Now You Know The Score- Judgement Records King Black Acid-Loves A Long Song-Cavity Search Krom Lek-Collective Conscious-Stone Premonitions Kron Lek-A Breath of Fresh Air- Stone Premonitions Krom Lek-Psychedelic Dot Krom-Stone Premonitions Man-First Self Titled "Man"-Point Mandragora-Temple Ball Live '94-Mystic Stones Mandragora-Earthdance-Mystic Stones includes Niall Hone of Hawkwind on 2 tracks Mandragora-Pollen-Delerium Scott McGill, Michael Manring, and Vic Stevens-Addition by Subtraction-Free Electric Sound with Jordan Rudess Mellonova-Mellonova-Aporia Melting Euphoria-She Wanted To Take Us Over The Edge Of The World-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Inside The Gardens Of The Mind-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Beyond The Maybe Machine-Cleopatra Melting euphoria-Upon The Solar Winds-Cleopatra Melting Euphoria-Through The Strands of Time-Stratospheric Records Mr. Quimby's Beard - The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of-Stone Premonitions Mr. Quimby's Beard - The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of-Freaky Funghi Nukli-The Time Factory-Delerium Omnia Opera=Omnia Opera-Delerium Pendragon-The Masquerade Overture-Snapper Classics-DigiPack Quarkspace-Live Orion-Eternity's Jest Quarkspace-The Hidden Moon-Eternity's Jest 2 CD set in nice cardboard sleeve Sheavy-Celestial Hi-Fi-Rise Above Ship of Fools-Out There Somewhere-Dreamtime /Rare Sleep-Sleep's Holy Mountain-Earache Soma-Dreamtime-Beard of Stars Soma-Epsilopn - Rune Spaceship Eyes-Truth In The Eyes Of A Spaceship-Hypnotic ST37-Nunavut-Blue Circle 2 CD set in cardboard sleeve Various Artists -Frenchy Scissorhands!!!The True Story of Flicknife-Flicknife Records/ 2 Hawkwind tracks Various Artists-Space Daze 2000-Cleopatra includes Hawkwind, Roxy Music, Bowie, Klause Schulze, Anubian Lights,Kraftwerk, Melting Euphoria Fripp and Eno and others From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jun 8 04:44:16 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:44:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > I remain uncertain as to whether Huw or Mick counts as more original. > Perhaps I wouldn't normally count a "guest spot" like that -- but on the > other hand it seems like virtually everyone except Dave is effectively in HW > as a guest! ;) When long ago I was more obsessive, or perhaps had fewer things to obsess about and so more time for each, I wrestled with this problem when pulling together that list of HW members appearances on other records, which I do have a more up-to-date version of that some day I will webify honest. But you know, who counts as a member? Just appearing with the band obviously isn't enough, as Al Matthews or Rory Cargill of the Invisible Band would be in (though Rory does *look* as if he's a Hawkwind member, it must be said). Even appearing on record probably isn't enough, for similar reasons (Paul Cobbold? Dick Taylor?). On the other hand, draw the net too tightly and you squeeze out people like Steve Hayes or Steve Bemand who were a crucial part of at least one touring line-up. And what do you do with Stacia, who is listed as a band member in the sleeve of DFL and who can be heard on the BBC live set but never wrote anything for them, or Kris, who has been appearing live with HW for how long and has the occasional writing credit but is never listed as a member AFAIK? and so on. I thought when I drew that list up that I had a policy, which was, they must have done any two of: appear on stage with, get a writing credit from or be on record with Hawkwind. At that rate, however, I should have counted both Stacia and Kris, and I haven't, not that (again AFAIK) they've worked with anyone else subsequently. Furthermore, I notice that there I've listed Mick Slattery as a original HW member and Huw as a latecomer, but I've no idea now why I made that decision; was it that Mick is named on the original Hawkwind record contract? I think it may have been that. All subjective, anyway! What counts? and, perhaps more importantly, who cares? Yours, Jon (who obviously did at one point) -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 8 06:57:41 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:57:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:16:50 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jun 8 13:29:46 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:29:46 -0500 Subject: Membership, with or w/o its privileges (was Re: HW: Re: LOST in France?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 08 Jun 2010, at 03:44, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > And what do you do with Stacia, who is listed as a band member in > the sleeve of DFL and who can be heard on the BBC live set but > never wrote anything for them, or Kris, who has been appearing live > with HW for how long and has the occasional writing credit but is > never listed as a member AFAIK? and so on. > I thought when I drew that list up that I had a policy, which was, > they must have done any two of: appear on stage with, get a writing > credit from or be on record with Hawkwind. At that rate, however, I > should have counted both Stacia and Kris, and I haven't, not that > (again AFAIK) they've worked with anyone else subsequently. Listing people as band members on the strength of having writing credits on songs originally performed by the band seems like it goes too far. There are all sorts of people who get credits as songwriters, perhaps even on a regular basis as part of a writing team with a performing band-member, but I am not sure that makes them a member of the given band .... in fact, I would say that it does not. :) Stacia though, is a more complex figure .... I would be inclined to include her as a "band member" largely on the strength of being credited as a "band member" on albums. (That her voice is heard on the BBC live set doesn't hurt, but I think if you are listed as a band member, then you should be regarded as a a band member, regardless of other factors. We can make space for "non-musical" or "non-audio-generating" band members, I think.) Perhaps criteria (wow, this is awesome geekery! :)) could include both "appeared onstage as regular touring member (however briefly) rather than as "guest" and/or "credited as constituent of band on album credits (studio or live)"? Of course, Hawkwind has had numerous dancers tour with the band over the years -- but only Stacia got listed on albums as a member. This, I think, can qualify Stacia as a proper member (if "non-audio- generating), but not the other dancers. Likewise, Kris is never credited as a band member -- only as a song writer. So I think that keeps her from being a band member (for all that she has appeared onstage with the band in regular capacities). I guess I lean towards album credits as having the most weight, followed by some sort of public recognition as a touring member. (The awesome geekery continues ..... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Tue Jun 8 15:41:47 2010 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:41:47 -0400 Subject: [membership Message-ID: > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> Listing people as band members on the strength of having writing >> credits on songs originally performed by the band seems like it goes >> too far. There are all sorts of people who get credits as >> songwriters, perhaps even on a regular basis as part of a writing >> team with a performing band-member, but I am not sure that makes them >> a member of the given band .... in fact, I would say that it does >> not. :) > I believe King Crimson considered Pete Sinfield to be a member. Yep, > just checked the liner notes to "Court of the Crimson King" and > Sinfield is listed as a band member credited with "Words and > Illumination" as he also ran their light show. Does that make him a > performing member? > > I think Procul Harum listed Keith Reid as a member. > > Then there's Clear Light who listed their guru and "seer and overseer" > as band members. But they were from California in the sixties, so it > figures. > > John McIntyre > mcintyre at pa.msu.edu -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET LISTSERV Server (15.5)" Subject: Rejected posting to BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:41:32 -0400 Size: 5535 URL: From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jun 8 17:14:53 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:14:53 -0500 Subject: [membership In-Reply-To: <4C0E9CFB.5000604@pa.msu.edu> Message-ID: Under my "if they are listed as a member in the album credits, then they're a member, even if non-audio-generating" rule, yup, these various dudes would be "members". But I think it's reasonable to make a distinction between "audio-generating" and "non-audio- generating" members, even though they all be members of one kind or another. Cheers, Carl On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:41, John McIntyre wrote: > >> Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >>> Listing people as band members on the strength of having writing >>> credits on songs originally performed by the band seems like it >>> goes too far. There are all sorts of people who get credits as >>> songwriters, perhaps even on a regular basis as part of a writing >>> team with a performing band-member, but I am not sure that makes >>> them a member of the given band .... in fact, I would say that it >>> does not. :) >> I believe King Crimson considered Pete Sinfield to be a member. >> Yep, just checked the liner notes to "Court of the Crimson King" >> and Sinfield is listed as a band member credited with "Words and >> Illumination" as he also ran their light show. Does that make him >> a performing member? >> >> I think Procul Harum listed Keith Reid as a member. >> >> Then there's Clear Light who listed their guru and "seer and >> overseer" as band members. But they were from California in the >> sixties, so it figures. >> >> John McIntyre >> mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > > > From: "LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET LISTSERV Server (15.5)" > > Date: 08 June 2010 14:41:32 GMT-05:00 > To: > Subject: Rejected posting to BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > You are not authorized to send mail to the BOC-L list > from your > mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU account. You might be authorized to > post to the > list from another account, or perhaps when using another > mail program > configured to use a different email address. However, LISTSERV has > no way to > associate this other account or address with yours. If you need > assistance or > if you have any questions regarding the policy of the BOC-L > list, please > contact the list owners at BOC-L-request at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET. > > From: John McIntyre > Date: 08 June 2010 14:38:15 GMT-05:00 > To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Subject: Re: Membership, with or w/o its privileges (was Re: HW: > Re: LOST in France?) > Reply-To: > > > > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> Listing people as band members on the strength of having writing >> credits on songs originally performed by the band seems like it >> goes too far. There are all sorts of people who get credits as >> songwriters, perhaps even on a regular basis as part of a writing >> team with a performing band-member, but I am not sure that makes >> them a member of the given band .... in fact, I would say that it >> does not. :) > I believe King Crimson considered Pete Sinfield to be a member. > Yep, just checked the liner notes to "Court of the Crimson King" > and Sinfield is listed as a band member credited with "Words and > Illumination" as he also ran their light show. Does that make him > a performing member? > > I think Procul Harum listed Keith Reid as a member. > > Then there's Clear Light who listed their guru and "seer and > overseer" as band members. But they were from California in the > sixties, so it figures. > > John McIntyre > mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > > > > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Tue Jun 8 17:28:13 2010 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:28:13 -0400 Subject: [membership In-Reply-To: <8C64E608-9203-4332-A5E8-BF5C5BBD88CF@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Get some sleep :-) Cheers, Steve. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:14 Subject: Re: [membership Under my "if they are listed as a member in the album credits, then they're a member, even if non-audio-generating" rule, yup, these various dudes would be "members". But I think it's reasonable to make a distinction between "audio-generating" and "non-audio-generating" members, even though they all be members of one kind or another. Cheers, Carl On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:41, John McIntyre wrote: > >> Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >>> Listing people as band members on the strength of having writing >>> credits on songs originally performed by the band seems like it >>> goes too far. There are all sorts of people who get credits as >>> songwriters, perhaps even on a regular basis as part of a writing >>> team with a performing band-member, but I am not sure that makes >>> them a member of the given band .... in fact, I would say that it >>> does not. :) >> I believe King Crimson considered Pete Sinfield to be a member. >> Yep, just checked the liner notes to "Court of the Crimson King" >> and Sinfield is listed as a band member credited with "Words and >> Illumination" as he also ran their light show. Does that make him >> a performing member? >> >> I think Procul Harum listed Keith Reid as a member. >> >> Then there's Clear Light who listed their guru and "seer and >> overseer" as band members. But they were from California in the >> sixties, so it figures. >> >> John McIntyre >> mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > > > From: "LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET LISTSERV Server (15.5)" > > Date: 08 June 2010 14:41:32 GMT-05:00 > To: > Subject: Rejected posting to BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > You are not authorized to send mail to the BOC-L list > from your > mcintyre at EXCHANGE.PA.MSU.EDU account. You might be authorized to > post to the > list from another account, or perhaps when using another > mail program > configured to use a different email address. However, LISTSERV has > no way to > associate this other account or address with yours. If you need > assistance or > if you have any questions regarding the policy of the BOC-L > list, please > contact the list owners at BOC-L-request at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET. > > From: John McIntyre > Date: 08 June 2010 14:38:15 GMT-05:00 > To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Subject: Re: Membership, with or w/o its privileges (was Re: HW: > Re: LOST in France?) > Reply-To: > > > > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> Listing people as band members on the strength of having writing >> credits on songs originally performed by the band seems like it >> goes too far. There are all sorts of people who get credits as >> songwriters, perhaps even on a regular basis as part of a writing >> team with a performing band-member, but I am not sure that makes >> them a member of the given band .... in fact, I would say that it >> does not. :) > I believe King Crimson considered Pete Sinfield to be a member. > Yep, just checked the liner notes to "Court of the Crimson King" > and Sinfield is listed as a band member credited with "Words and > Illumination" as he also ran their light show. Does that make him > a performing member? > > I think Procul Harum listed Keith Reid as a member. > > Then there's Clear Light who listed their guru and "seer and > overseer" as band members. But they were from California in the > sixties, so it figures. > > John McIntyre > mcintyre at pa.msu.edu > > > > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Jun 8 17:43:04 2010 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:43:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 03/06/2010 11:53 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > I remain uncertain as to whether Huw or Mick counts as more original. > Perhaps I wouldn't normally count a "guest spot" like that -- but on the > other hand it seems like virtually everyone except Dave is effectively > in HW as a guest! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRw_rvrXQiQ Says Mick, Nik, & Dave were co-founders. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 9 00:47:19 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:47:19 -0500 Subject: [membership In-Reply-To: <8CCD568A2D7E577-21DC-4201@webmail-m041.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 6/8/10, stevepxr5 at aol.com wrote Get some sleep :-) Cheers, Steve. and when the sun rises http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDeOtQCr5SE I can't watch this yet. Tim Blake's 45 got my lunch money, thanks to Rich. The vid (for any who've not seen) courtesy of the "Hurry Up and throw an Italian Generator Laserbeam/Woodland Voice Pic sleeve up for sale committee From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 9 01:07:21 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:07:21 -0500 Subject: HW's USA Kings Of Speed promo 45s In-Reply-To: <807772.1305.qm@web24707.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 4/24/09, tajemtoe wrote: > > Just wond'ring aloud here....which of the 2 Kings Of Speed promo 45s is the > rarer or harder to come by? > Both are mono/stereo with white and blue Atco labels but the wording is > slightly different on each. Can a collector enlighten me? > HerB Erstwhile...........there are 3 (USA promo Mono/Stereo copies)......I have them........a fellow "expert" that I have recently befriended has confirmed the "Plug Side" copy is the "rarest of all the KOS 45's" as to exactly what he meant, I don't know yet..... I myself can't see it being rarer than the stock copies (of which 2 are known), but I'll be tickled PINK if he really meant ALL the Kings Of Speeds..... I don't pretend this interests very many, but I love being right.....however costly it is From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jun 9 10:29:08 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:29:08 -0700 Subject: Cult playlist Message-ID: Does anyone know anything about the songs on the Legacy Playlist CD just issued? It's vague about whether any of the songs are unreleased. I also saw that Cult Classic is selling for $45 new on Amazon. Holy cow. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jun 9 10:48:10 2010 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:48:10 -0400 Subject: Cult playlist In-Reply-To: <177880.75144.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The TV mixes are driving up those prices, I bet. (an amusing karaoke mix idea: a cowbell-less version of Reaper, so you could add your own.) Is this it? http://www.legacyrecordings.com/music/blue-oyster-cult/playlist--the-very-best-of-blue-oyster-cult Judging from that list, i'd imagine the answer is no. On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:29:08 -0700, gary shindler wrote: > Does anyone know anything about the songs on the Legacy Playlist CD just > issued? It's vague about whether any of the songs are unreleased. > > I also saw that Cult Classic is selling for $45 new on Amazon. Holy cow. From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jun 9 11:26:10 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:26:10 -0700 Subject: Cult playlist In-Reply-To: <2a1fb6aeb3ec7fb195b0c3c1618df0f2@pop.logical.net> Message-ID: "Cult Classic" is kind of a novelty. I'm not a fan of remakes, especially when the arrangements aren't that different. ? Yep, Jason, that's the one. Sony is all about the reissues. ________________________________ From: Jason Scruton To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 9:48:10 AM Subject: Re: Cult playlist The TV mixes are driving up those prices, I bet. (an amusing karaoke mix idea: a cowbell-less version of Reaper, so you could add your own.) Is this it? http://www.legacyrecordings.com/music/blue-oyster-cult/playlist--the-very-best-of-blue-oyster-cult Judging from that list, i'd imagine the answer is no. On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 07:29:08 -0700, gary shindler wrote: > Does anyone know anything about the songs on the Legacy Playlist CD just > issued? It's vague about whether any of the songs are unreleased. > > I also saw that Cult Classic is selling for $45 new on Amazon. Holy cow. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Jun 9 13:40:45 2010 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:40:45 +0000 Subject: [membership In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is that John Harrison on Bass??? --- On Wed, 9/6/10, mike coleman wrote: From: mike coleman Subject: Re: [membership To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 9 June, 2010, 5:47 On 6/8/10, stevepxr5 at aol.com wrote Get some sleep :-) Cheers, Steve. and when the sun rises http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDeOtQCr5SE I can't watch this yet. Tim Blake's 45 got my lunch money, thanks to Rich. The vid (for any who've not seen) courtesy of the "Hurry Up and throw an Italian Generator Laserbeam/Woodland Voice Pic sleeve up for sale committee From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jun 9 04:01:08 2010 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 04:01:08 EDT Subject: [membership Message-ID: In a message dated 6/9/2010 12:48:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: Message-ID: Haven't seen Tull in ages! I forget who's on bass these days .... Cheers, Carl On 09 Jun 2010, at 03:01, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: > Tull tomorrow..all must be well. -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 9 16:39:04 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:39:04 -0500 Subject: [membership (off) Message-ID: On 6/9/10, Stewartbas at aol.com wrote In a message dated 6/9/2010 12:48:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:48:10 -0400 Jason Scruton ...might have said Subject: Re: Cult playlist > > The TV mixes are driving up those prices, I bet. > (an amusing karaoke mix idea: a cowbell-less version of Reaper, so you > could add your own.) Umm errr, yeah right Jason! - keep taking the pills? and Gary Shindler on Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:26:10 -0700 > From: gary shindler stated: > "Cult Classic" is kind of a novelty. I'm not a fan of remakes, especially w= > hen the arrangements aren't that different. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! I can't stay quiet any longer about this bizarre marriage of Blue Oyster Cult and Hawkwind as a list - the idea is as bonkers as half the people that post here. (Not to mention JT!!). I mean how can HW share a list with a group that has only produced 2 albums and still play exactly the same70's version of their songs live.. compare that against HW's many mutations and the way that they have redefined themselves, dare I say it, as much as Madonna! lol. Congrats to HW - for getting an award - 'The Maverick Award' - not quite sure what that means - if anyone can explain?? I was annoyed as hell this am on Radio 6 when they announced this and then said - "I guess we better play a HW track then" - but no prizes for guessing which one! Maxine From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 11 11:16:54 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:16:54 -0400 Subject: Off: Cult Playlist In-Reply-To: <4C16512B.B4F3.009C.0@port.ac.uk> Message-ID: Maxine, I assume this is you yanking my chain... ;-) surely you have been on the list long enough to know the reason it's Hawkwind & BOC, right? Steve On Jun 11, 2010 10:58 AM, "Maxine Wesley" wrote: On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:48:10 -0400 Jason Scruton ...might have said Subject: Re: Cult playlist > > The TV mixes are driving up those prices, I bet. > (an amusing karaoke mix idea: a cowbell-less version of Reaper, so you > could add your own.) Umm errr, yeah right Jason! - keep taking the pills? and Gary Shindler on Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:26:10 -0700 > From: gary shindler stated: > "Cult Classic" is kind of a novelty. I'm not a fan of remakes, especially w= > hen the arrangements aren't that different. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! I can't stay quiet any longer about this bizarre marriage of Blue Oyster Cult and Hawkwind as a list - the idea is as bonkers as half the people that post here. (Not to mention JT!!). I mean how can HW share a list with a group that has only produced 2 albums and still play exactly the same70's version of their songs live.. compare that against HW's many mutations and the way that they have redefined themselves, dare I say it, as much as Madonna! lol. Congrats to HW - for getting an award - 'The Maverick Award' - not quite sure what that means - if anyone can explain?? I was annoyed as hell this am on Radio 6 when they announced this and then said - "I guess we better play a HW track then" - but no prizes for guessing which one! Maxine From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 11 14:07:53 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:07:53 -0500 Subject: Off: Cult Playlist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The back of the "Welcome To The Future " comp LP always helped me in this area, and I've never really been a Tull fan myself- with you there Maxine, bonkers as I am.... TG Tonni Iommi didn't get the gig!!! On 6/11/10, Steve Swann wrote: > > Maxine, I assume this is you yanking my chain... ;-) surely you have been > on the list long enough to know the reason it's Hawkwind & BOC, right? > Steve > > On Jun 11, 2010 10:58 AM, "Maxine Wesley" > wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:48:10 -0400 > Jason Scruton ...might have said > Subject: Re: Cult playlist > > > > The TV mixes are driving up those prices, I bet. > > (an amusing karaoke mix idea: a cowbell-less version of Reaper, so you > > could add your own.) > > Umm errr, yeah right Jason! - keep taking the pills? > > and Gary Shindler on Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:26:10 -0700 > > From: gary shindler > > stated: > > > "Cult Classic" is kind of a novelty. I'm not a fan of remakes, especially > w= > > hen the arrangements aren't that different. > > ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! > > I can't stay quiet any longer about this bizarre marriage of Blue Oyster > Cult and Hawkwind as a list - the idea is as bonkers as half the people > that > post here. (Not to mention JT!!). > > I mean how can HW share a list with a group that has only produced 2 albums > and still play exactly the same70's version of their songs live.. compare > that against HW's many mutations and the way that they have redefined > themselves, dare I say it, as much as Madonna! lol. > > Congrats to HW - for getting an award - 'The Maverick Award' - not quite > sure what that means - if anyone can explain?? I was annoyed as hell this > am on Radio 6 when they announced this and then said - "I guess we better > play a HW track then" - but no prizes for guessing which one! > > > Maxine > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Jun 11 14:17:58 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:17:58 -0500 Subject: Off: Cult Playlist In-Reply-To: <4C16512B.B4F3.009C.0@port.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2010, at 09:56, Maxine Wesley wrote: > HW's many mutations and the way that they have redefined > themselves, dare I say it, as much as Madonna! lol. Special award to Maxine for comparing Hawkwind and Madonna! :) Meanwhile, I have not yet forgotten my plan to record a blanga-space- rock version of "Ray of Light" .... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 11 16:01:22 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:01:22 -0500 Subject: Off: Cult Playlist In-Reply-To: <47F7AF54-8142-4EB8-A870-DDB0DD0BDC8E@carlaz.com> Message-ID: And I hope everbody realises this all fits together- a Hawkwind dominated list tilted BOC is totally appropriate and par for the course, and the Madonna era to which Carl referred was approved by Dave at that time. however, my prime motivattion for posting again is self defense- While I was just at a local shop, there was a Jimi Hendrix poster with a quote, it was either "being crazy is like heaven", or "craziness is like heaven" , On 6/11/10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2010, at 09:56, Maxine Wesley wrote: > >> HW's many mutations and the way that they have redefined themselves, dare >> I say it, as much as Madonna! lol. >> > > > Special award to Maxine for comparing Hawkwind and Madonna! :) > > Meanwhile, I have not yet forgotten my plan to record a blanga-space-rock > version of "Ray of Light" .... :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 11 16:21:09 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:21:09 -0500 Subject: Off: Cult Playlist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and I'm still not done!!! Maxine during the 5 years I was gone, I have come back to find many old friends (at least they would always be friends from my view) had abondoned this group for (apparently) the very reason that you state- I miss them and wish they had stayed. I am very grateful for this group and to all those faithful to it, and I am very OK with however many people want to post about BOC which is close the their heart- If you decide to leap over I hope you will stay here as well- sane people fascinate me I'm in awe of what it might be like to be able to paint a kitchen. On 6/11/10, mike coleman wrote: > > And I hope everbody realises this all fits together- > a Hawkwind dominated list tilted BOC is totally appropriate and par for the > course, and the Madonna era to which Carl referred was approved by Dave at > that time. > however, my prime motivattion for posting again is self defense- > While I was just at a local shop, there was a Jimi Hendrix poster with a > quote, it was either "being crazy is like heaven", or "craziness is like > heaven" > , > > On 6/11/10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >> On 11 Jun 2010, at 09:56, Maxine Wesley wrote: >> >>> HW's many mutations and the way that they have redefined themselves, >>> dare I say it, as much as Madonna! lol. >>> >> >> >> Special award to Maxine for comparing Hawkwind and Madonna! :) >> >> Meanwhile, I have not yet forgotten my plan to record a blanga-space-rock >> version of "Ray of Light" .... :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Jun 12 09:56:05 2010 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:56:05 EDT Subject: Off: Cult Playlist Message-ID: In a message dated 11/06/2010 21:21:50 GMT Daylight Time, insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: sane people fascinate me I like that. Good quote. Steve. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 12 20:45:27 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary ann sullivan) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:45:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I tried sending a story along for this thread (but, don't know that it got through, my error), about the only American drummer for Hawkwind who was never a drummer for Hawkwind. When we traveled with the band, in '91, Chris working, and I as the co-author of the flyer, we had a friend who went along to all 13 shows of the tour as a volunteer. The band was doing sound check, and Richard wasn't there, so Tom Marianetti, (drummer for Sun Machine, Secret Saucer,, and many other projects), offered to play the drums. Richard thought it was a recording of the band. . It made Tom happy,, and the sound check got taken done to everyone's satisfaction. Mary. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 2:17 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend On 6/7/10, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > ps- I'm also thinking if you make it onto a Hawkwind album, that > > kinda > like > > being a member for that moment isn't it- > Heh. I made it onto that Spaced Out In London CD. Dunno quite how > though. > FoFP I don't have that- I wasn't "well" at the time......tell more!~!! From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Sun Jun 13 04:49:10 2010 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:49:10 -0500 Subject: BOC: ROT Rally set list In-Reply-To: <349971DF-1ABC-43E8-A79D-E9E097F5BF12@athletics.utexas.edu> Message-ID: BOC's set list from the ROT Rally in Austin, TX on Thursday June 10th. Started at 9:15 The Red and the Black Before the Kiss, A Redcap Burnin' for You Shooting shark Buck's boogie Black Blade Then Came the Last Days of May Godzilla Buck solo (Don't Fear) The Reaper Hot rails Off stage at 10:45 90 minutes for 11 songs. They made sure to have a good time and extend each one. Buck seemed to have to try harder when playing rhythm than lead. Maybe making sure not to slip back into lead? From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 13 13:13:22 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:13:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: <201006071043.o57AhAUD008888@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, M Holmes wrote: > Heh. I made it onto that Spaced Out In London CD. Dunno quite how > though. That's pretty cool. Where are you audible? Yours, Jon ObCD: Nukli - _The Time Factory_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jun 13 14:29:04 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:29:04 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 13, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #240). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #240) The Vernon Dent - "Think Tank" (from Louder) Beyond-O-Matic - "Starbong" (from Time To Get Up) Camden Underground - "Clone War" (from web site download) ST 37 - "Maroons" (from High and Inside) Sonic Arcana - "Ethereal Floaty" (from Past Echoes) THE HIGHER CRAFT SET The Higher Craft - "Time Has Come" (from Magic Box) The Higher Craft - "I Do The Visions" (from Magic Box) The Higher Craft - "Legends of Time" (from Legends of Time) The Higher Craft - "Gateway" (from forthcoming Quest into the Steppingstoneage album) The Higher Craft - "Oracle" (from Oracle XIV-Gateway EP) The Megatoids - "Trickle-Down Greed" (from Too Big To Fail) Harold Nono - "Akarui Akari" (from Hidekazu Wakabayashi) Sky Picnic - "Lost is Found" (from Lost is Found single) NOS Project - "Near The Sea PU" (from oz032) Purple Overdose - "Her Arms Embraced The Sun" (from Reborn) http://Aural-Innovations.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jun 13 19:29:36 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:29:36 +0100 Subject: Membership, with or w/o its privileges (was Re: HW: Re: LOST in France?) In-Reply-To: <3141269F-685A-4B9A-9995-7F9A2A97C75C@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Perhaps criteria (wow, this is awesome geekery! :)) could include both > "appeared onstage as regular touring member (however briefly) rather than as > "guest" and/or "credited as constituent of band on album credits (studio or > live)"? By and large I think I agree with your awesome geekery here (and therefore have added Stacia to the list even though as far as I know she didn't record anything else ever. The problem with this bit, however, is "regular touring member". They've pushed almost every definition one could possibly give for this. People who only play certain gigs in a given tour, continuous or intermittent... Yours, Jon ObCD: Guru Guru - _UFO_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 14 06:35:40 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:35:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:13:22 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 14 06:50:03 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 05:50:03 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: <201006141035.o5EAZehO029341@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 6/14/10, M Holmes wrote: > > Jonathan Jarrett writes: > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, M Holmes wrote: > > > Heh. I made it onto that Spaced Out In London CD. Dunno quite how > > > though. > > > That's pretty cool. Where are you audible? Yours, > > Just after Arthur's snail poem. > > FoFP I've been needing a distration from that poem......(yes I have a dupe of this show)....I'd have said the codex would have already seen your foot in the door but since Jon had the guts to ask, I can't wait until it's late enough to play music, err, audience... Maybe we should rate your "performance".... Going to the pub certainly has it's perks .....now I'll have to check and see if they got me all the way out of Palace Springs.... From davidkhardman at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 14 18:34:04 2010 From: davidkhardman at GMAIL.COM (David Hardman) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:34:04 +0100 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) Message-ID: On YouTube there are a couple of live versions of I Love The Night. However, these are longer than the album version. Does anyone know the complete lyrics for the extended version? Dave My other shared stuff is at: http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Jun 14 18:58:24 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:58:24 CDT Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) Message-ID: Hmm, never knew it was performed. Curious... -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:44:38 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "David Hardman" Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) On YouTube there are a couple of live versions of I Love The Night. However, these are longer than the album version. Does anyone know the complete lyrics for the extended version? Dave My other shared stuff is at: http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman From davidkhardman at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 14 19:20:15 2010 From: davidkhardman at GMAIL.COM (David Hardman) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 00:20:15 +0100 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) In-Reply-To: <856570.56347.qm@smtp122-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yup, here's an audio-only version from 1983: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPIaHaNuhu4 And here's a high-quality video (from some TV recording, I would guess) from 2003: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4DBWPOoeJg Annoyingly, I can't quite make out all the additional lyrics, but if anyone here is less cloth-eared than I am then maybe they could paste the lyrics up here for me. Dave On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, gary shindler wrote: > Hmm, never knew it was performed. Curious... > -----Original Message----- > Date: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:44:38 pm > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > From: "David Hardman" > Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) > > On YouTube there are a couple of live versions of I Love The Night. > However, > these are longer than the album version. Does anyone know the complete > lyrics for the extended version? > > Dave > > > > My other shared stuff is at: > http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman > -- JDM textbook blog: http://judgmentanddecisionmaking.blogspot.com My other shared stuff is at: http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman From jt_ at COX.NET Mon Jun 14 21:46:08 2010 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:46:08 -0500 Subject: Off: Cult Playlist In-Reply-To: <4C16512B.B4F3.009C.0@port.ac.uk> Message-ID: s bizarre marriage of Blue Oyster Cult and Hawkwind as a list - the idea is as bonkers as half the people that post here. (Not to mention JT!!). > > I mean how can HW share a list with a group that has only produced 2 albums You're forgetting the Stalk-Forrest tapes. That makes three album, or at least two and a half. From altbouch at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 14 22:25:52 2010 From: altbouch at GMAIL.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:25:52 -0400 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We made Donald edit it for the album version for time but really we probably should have left it long. Here's what I can pick out. ILTN Out in the air, cool and clear it's free it's the only way to be ILTN Once hidden wonders now were there to see they were pointed out to me Now I never rise until the sun falls And my vision knows no walls And I'm looking for ladies walking alone They regret the day when they hear me say Al On Jun 14, 2010, at 7:20 PM, David Hardman wrote: > Yup, here's an audio-only version from 1983: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPIaHaNuhu4 > > And here's a high-quality video (from some TV recording, I would guess) from > 2003: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4DBWPOoeJg > > Annoyingly, I can't quite make out all the additional lyrics, but if anyone > here is less cloth-eared than I am then maybe they could paste the lyrics up > here for me. > > Dave > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, gary shindler wrote: > >> Hmm, never knew it was performed. Curious... >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:44:38 pm >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> From: "David Hardman" >> Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) >> >> On YouTube there are a couple of live versions of I Love The Night. >> However, >> these are longer than the album version. Does anyone know the complete >> lyrics for the extended version? >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> My other shared stuff is at: >> http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman >> > > > > -- > JDM textbook blog: http://judgmentanddecisionmaking.blogspot.com > > My other shared stuff is at: > http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Jun 15 09:04:54 2010 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:04:54 -0400 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) Message-ID: I believe that's "They'll FORGET the day". I really prefer the song with the added lyrics - makes the story a bit more obvious - because none of BOC's other lyrics are obscure... ;-) John > -----Original Message----- > From: Albert Bouchard [mailto:altbouch at GMAIL.COM] > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) > > We made Donald edit it for the album version for time but really we > probably should have left it long. > > Here's what I can pick out. > > ILTN > Out in the air, cool and clear it's free it's the only way to be > ILTN > Once hidden wonders now were there to see they were pointed out to me > > Now I never rise until the sun falls > And my vision knows no walls > And I'm looking for ladies walking alone > They regret the day when they hear me say > > Al > > On Jun 14, 2010, at 7:20 PM, David Hardman wrote: > > > Yup, here's an audio-only version from 1983: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPIaHaNuhu4 > > > > And here's a high-quality video (from some TV recording, I would guess) > from > > 2003: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4DBWPOoeJg > > > > Annoyingly, I can't quite make out all the additional lyrics, but if > anyone > > here is less cloth-eared than I am then maybe they could paste the lyrics > up > > here for me. > > > > Dave > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, gary shindler > wrote: > > > >> Hmm, never knew it was performed. Curious... > >> -----Original Message----- > >> Date: Monday, June 14, 2010 5:44:38 pm > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >> From: "David Hardman" > >> Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) > >> > >> On YouTube there are a couple of live versions of I Love The Night. > >> However, > >> these are longer than the album version. Does anyone know the complete > >> lyrics for the extended version? > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> My other shared stuff is at: > >> http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > JDM textbook blog: http://judgmentanddecisionmaking.blogspot.com > > > > My other shared stuff is at: > > http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jun 15 12:02:59 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:02:59 -0500 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) In-Reply-To: <25BBA8E2-55D2-479E-AC7D-F7107228C856@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 14 Jun 2010, at 21:25 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > We made Donald edit it for the album version for time but really we probably should have left it long. Yes. :) Oh well! For the ultimate, expanded, remastered edition ... someday .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jun 15 12:04:02 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:04:02 -0500 Subject: Membership, with or w/o its privileges (was Re: HW: Re: LOST in France?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13 Jun 2010, at 18:29 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > The problem with this bit, however, is "regular touring member". They've pushed almost every definition one could possibly give for this. People who only play certain gigs in a given tour, continuous or intermittent... Yeah, and my powers of awesome geekery -- such as they are -- do not yet have a solution for that one! :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Tue Jun 15 21:03:06 2010 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:03:06 -0600 Subject: ROT Rally set list In-Reply-To: <00e201cb0ad5$4a901720$dfb04560$@rr.com> Message-ID: Phillip, Thanks for the report. I assume Eric was back in action, althought it is still a Buck-heavy set. Did Eric seem like he was doing OK? Brad in Utah > BOC's set list from the ROT Rally in Austin, TX on Thursday June 10th. > > Started at 9:15 > The Red and the Black > Before the Kiss, A Redcap > Burnin' for You > Shooting shark > Buck's boogie > Black Blade > Then Came the Last Days of May > Godzilla > Buck solo > (Don't Fear) The Reaper > > Hot rails > Off stage at 10:45 > > 90 minutes for 11 songs. They made sure to have a good time and extend > each > one. > Buck seemed to have to try harder when playing rhythm than lead. Maybe > making sure not to slip back into lead? > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Jun 15 22:02:06 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:02:06 CDT Subject: ROT Rally set list Message-ID: Eric's been out? -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:03:32 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "Brad Dahl" Subject: Re: ROT Rally set list Phillip, Thanks for the report. I assume Eric was back in action, althought it is still a Buck-heavy set. Did Eric seem like he was doing OK? Brad in Utah > BOC's set list from the ROT Rally in Austin, TX on Thursday June 10th. > > Started at 9:15 > The Red and the Black > Before the Kiss, A Redcap > Burnin' for You > Shooting shark > Buck's boogie > Black Blade > Then Came the Last Days of May > Godzilla > Buck solo > (Don't Fear) The Reaper > > Hot rails > Off stage at 10:45 > > 90 minutes for 11 songs. They made sure to have a good time and extend > each > one. > Buck seemed to have to try harder when playing rhythm than lead. Maybe > making sure not to slip back into lead? > From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Tue Jun 15 22:32:26 2010 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:32:26 -0500 Subject: ROT Rally set list In-Reply-To: <435898.57142.qm@smtp127-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That was my question! Come to think of it - Eric sang a lot of back up, but not much lead. Didn't notice at the time - excited because it was their first time in Austin in years. He seemed ok. Hope he doesn't go the way of Allen. Allen is still in the promo picture, but isn't on the website. Not even as a former member. Any ideas what happened there? Phillip -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: ROT Rally set list Eric's been out? -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:03:32 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "Brad Dahl" Subject: Re: ROT Rally set list Phillip, Thanks for the report. I assume Eric was back in action, althought it is still a Buck-heavy set. Did Eric seem like he was doing OK? Brad in Utah > BOC's set list from the ROT Rally in Austin, TX on Thursday June 10th. > > Started at 9:15 > The Red and the Black > Before the Kiss, A Redcap > Burnin' for You > Shooting shark > Buck's boogie > Black Blade > Then Came the Last Days of May > Godzilla > Buck solo > (Don't Fear) The Reaper > > Hot rails > Off stage at 10:45 > > 90 minutes for 11 songs. They made sure to have a good time and extend > each > one. > Buck seemed to have to try harder when playing rhythm than lead. Maybe > making sure not to slip back into lead? > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 15 22:49:21 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Gilgaenmeshed) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:49:21 -0500 Subject: HW collection madness (Jap LPs) Message-ID: To whom it might concern, apparently the below link announces forthcoming Japanese vinyl reissues of all or some of the UA LP's with things like miniaturized star rats poster.... In a message I saw from a mutual Japanese acquaintance which was a bend of my mind to comprehend, it appears like Space Bandits might have been in there- Anyway, things are getting too much for me just now so I'll leave this for you at the moment.....(whoever you might be) http://www.cdjournal.com/main/news/hawkwind/31730 From stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Jun 15 20:35:02 2010 From: stewartbas at AOL.COM (stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:35:02 -0400 Subject: Off: Cult Playlist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >xine, I assume this is you yanking my chain... ;-) surely you have been on the list long enough to know the reason it's Hawkwind & BOC, right? Steve Moorcock, Right? I've been around here forever, but, memories faaaaaaaade. bill s -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, Jun 11, 2010 2:07 pm Subject: Re: Off: Cult Playlist The back of the "Welcome To The Future " comp LP always helped me in this rea, and I've never really been a Tull fan myself- ith you there Maxine, bonkers as I am.... G Tonni Iommi didn't get the gig!!! n 6/11/10, Steve Swann wrote: Maxine, I assume this is you yanking my chain... ;-) surely you have been on the list long enough to know the reason it's Hawkwind & BOC, right? Steve On Jun 11, 2010 10:58 AM, "Maxine Wesley" wrote: On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:48:10 -0400 Jason Scruton ...might have said Subject: Re: Cult playlist > > The TV mixes are driving up those prices, I bet. > (an amusing karaoke mix idea: a cowbell-less version of Reaper, so you > could add your own.) Umm errr, yeah right Jason! - keep taking the pills? and Gary Shindler on Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:26:10 -0700 > From: gary shindler stated: > "Cult Classic" is kind of a novelty. I'm not a fan of remakes, especially w= > hen the arrangements aren't that different. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! I can't stay quiet any longer about this bizarre marriage of Blue Oyster Cult and Hawkwind as a list - the idea is as bonkers as half the people that post here. (Not to mention JT!!). I mean how can HW share a list with a group that has only produced 2 albums and still play exactly the same70's version of their songs live.. compare that against HW's many mutations and the way that they have redefined themselves, dare I say it, as much as Madonna! lol. Congrats to HW - for getting an award - 'The Maverick Award' - not quite sure what that means - if anyone can explain?? I was annoyed as hell this am on Radio 6 when they announced this and then said - "I guess we better play a HW track then" - but no prizes for guessing which one! Maxine From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jun 16 00:05:24 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:05:24 CDT Subject: ROT Rally set list Message-ID: Allen's been gone for years, maybe after their last record, live album? -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:32:36 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "Phillip A Jaeger" Subject: Re: ROT Rally set list That was my question! Come to think of it - Eric sang a lot of back up, but not much lead. Didn't notice at the time - excited because it was their first time in Austin in years. He seemed ok. Hope he doesn't go the way of Allen. Allen is still in the promo picture, but isn't on the website. Not even as a former member. Any ideas what happened there? Phillip -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: ROT Rally set list Eric's been out? -----Original Message----- Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:03:32 pm To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From: "Brad Dahl" Subject: Re: ROT Rally set list Phillip, Thanks for the report. I assume Eric was back in action, althought it is still a Buck-heavy set. Did Eric seem like he was doing OK? Brad in Utah > BOC's set list from the ROT Rally i From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Jun 17 06:06:57 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:06:57 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Does Not Care Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 17, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW I've uploaded a new show from Space Does Not Care (show #25). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Space Does Not Care (show #25) Chuck Rosenberg did a radio show dubbed "Space Does Not Care" from 1999-2003 at KUCR out of Riverside, CA, which streamed on-line for most of that time. The format of the new online version of Space Does Not Care is secured by Chuck under the umbrella of Psych/Space/Kraut/Electro/Indie/Folk/Noise-rock. OHM - "In a Desert-Alambic/Clash of the Titans" (from Voices - Two Ohm Hop) CHUCK SPEAKS Set from Amorphous Androgynous - V/A Monstrous Psychedelic Bubble Vol.2: Pagan Love Vibrations: THE TRANSPERSONALS - "Silver Star" ELECTROID 2000 - "Moogster's Revenge" DAN SEBESKY - "Guru-vin" CRANIUM PIE - "Madman Running Through the Fields" CIRCULUS - "Orpheus" DAVID HOLMES - "What R We Stealing?" DYZAN - "Naga Raga" US69 - "2069: A Spaced Oddity" JEAN CLAUDE VANNIER - "Les Gardes Volent au Secours du Roi" CHUCK SPEAKS BEAUTIFUL SKIN - "Magic Solutions to Life's Many Problems" (from Everything, All This & More - Gold Standard Laboratories) THE ORB - "Montagne D'or/I Am the Red Worm" (from BBC Sessions '89-'01) ASTRO AL - "Attack of the Prehistoric Beast" (from Psychedelic Drive-In Music - self-released) TUXEDOMOON - "Conquest" (from Divine - Crammed Discs) 45 SELF - "Spark Web Galaxies" (from Aztec Gameshow Death Ritual - Sirius Death Ritual) THE BRAIN - "Box/Thermal Hysterisis" (from Access and Amplify - Cleopatra) CHUCK SPEAKS DEFENDER - "defender jam" (from Empty Bottle 3/01 - unreleased cd-r) LITMUS - "(Theta Wave) Inductor" (from You Are Here - Rise Above) HAWKWIND - "Opa-Loka " (from '75 show) BOREDOMS - "Track #3" (from Vision Creation New Sun - Birdman) MALCOLM MOONEY & the 10th PLANET - "The Eagle Has Landed/Square's Prayer" (from ST'd - Mute) ULI TEICHMANN - "Piano Tec" (from V/A Pop Ambient 2006 - Kompakt) THE EARLIES - "Broken Chain" (from The Enemy Chorus - Secretly Canadian) CHUCK SPEAKS ULF LOHMANN - "Nicht die Velt" (from V/A The Art of Chill #4 - Platipus) http://Aural-Innovations.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jun 17 13:30:48 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:30:48 +0100 Subject: Judge Trev/Turner for Glastonbury festival UK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For those going to Glasto... Trev and Kev - 4.00 pm Tadpole Stage Wed 23rd June Inner City Unit - 9.00 pm The Hub, Shangri La Thu 24th June Trev and Kev will also be playing, covered in mud, at the Coalition, The Milton Arms, 174 Milton Road, Portsmouth on Sat 26th June http://www.myspace.com/judgetrev AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR Discover the Green Music Festivals REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers > > From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Jun 20 17:23:01 2010 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:23:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind mention in British Archaeology journal Message-ID: Article in British Archaeology journal July/August 2010 issue about "Archaeology in Rock" gives a couple of mentions to Hawkwind (and many other bands) who have linked archaeology and rock music - along with thumbnail pics of various album covers including the two Hawkwind Stonehenge ones "Do Not Panic" and "Live at Stonehenge 1983" . And in case anyone is interested in other aspects of the Music/Archaeology combination there is going to be an occasional web column featuring "popular music with archaeological and heritage connections" at www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/varmints Another dimension? cheers Jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jun 21 09:43:08 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:43:08 +0100 Subject: Litmus and Darxtar - The Bull and Gate 17.06.2010 In-Reply-To: <2252.1275425010@litmusmusic.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Litmus wrote: > As a warm up to this year's Sonic Rock Solstice, and as an > alternative to something that is going on in South Africa, we would > like to present a night of the finest British and Swedish spacerock > featuring Litmus and Darxtar playing a double headline gig. > > This event will take place at the Bull and Gate in Kentish Town, > London on June 17th; doors open at 20:00. I wasn't going to miss that, now, was I? Well, actually I nearly did, when the train I was heading into London on decided that its brakes would be best left on and left us stranded about five minutes away from journey's end. After forty-five minutes were inched far enough to deposit us at an intermediate station, and despite my best efforts, when I arrived Litmus were already playing. So I got beer while they started their way into `Kings of Infinite Space' and observed the new line-up. The new line-up is kind of an old line-up: synth and laptop wizard Anton and recently-recruited keyboardist Ollie have both gone (which is a great shame especially after all the time it took to find Ollie) but erstwhile swoosh-merchant Matt returns in their place. His contributions are not as schemingly complicated as Anton's, but may be a bit more musical, so the success of it would vary according to your taste but I thought it was working well, not least because the ladies of the lights were also doing their stuff with attention to crescendo and focal points and so on, so that often the electronic noise and the lights would all come together at particular moments of musical tension and I *really wish more people could do this*, it was good to see (and hear). The setlist as I wrote it, what I saw, was: Kings of Infinite Space Earthbound Slaughterbahn [though I want to spell it Sloterbahn, for which I blame Mike Burro] Under the Sign Static Nova Drive->Evil->Nova Drive Of these, all the ones you know were excellent and the insertion of `Evil' into `Nova Drive' incredibly brave and brilliantly carried off; it was easy enough to follow them on the way in but very difficult to imagine how they would get back *out* again to the main song, and it was done in a flash. Up till then I'd assumed this was improvised but, well, if they could pull themselves out of that on the fly like that then I am even more amazed by the band than I usually am. The two new ones both seemed slightly different from the usual fare, not worse but perhaps more Krautrocky, though this may be a suggestion put into my head by the first title. They both made me eager to hear the new album, which hasn't actually been recorded yet so there is a problem there I'll have to deal with. Martin's vocal parts on these seemed to challenge his reach, though, and I wonder if some rewriting there wouldn't be a good idea as he was in excellent voice on the old songs, so I think they just aren't easy to sing. Simon's guitar seemed to have developed a few new tricks too, which is no bad thing as the jams can become a little stale if he doesn't keep adding new variations. In the interim I managed briefly to chat with S?ren Bengtsson of DarXtar, which mainly served to confirm that he is still determined never to re-release _Darker_ (dammit!) but also that in other respects he's a lovely chap, equable and polite even to slightly frothing fans he's never met before such as myself. The actual performance was marvellous. I have lived with most of these songs for more than a decade, am fond of them all and never expected to see them live, so I was in a transport of joy for much of it, as they were flawlessly done without being mere repetitions of the records. They are of course a much gentler, more emotional and slower band than Litmus, so they seemed to have a little initial trouble regaining the crowd's attention, but once S?ren was singing that quickly dispersed; he puts a lot of feeling into his words and the band and him together slowly drew the audience into their world. Considering how rarely they play they were in perfect practice. (I do have to say, however, that the second guitarist was basically inaudible; his primary function may have been to swell the audience by bringing along several friends...) Setlist was: (intro jam) Voices We Came Too Late Blue Frozen Flame 7(?) Tired Nature The last was apparently unreleased, and I had to check its title from their setlist, it was perhaps more pedestrian than the rest of the set but then after the huge glorious mourning of `Sju' I'm not sure what wouldn't have seemed underwhelming. I just wish they'd had more fans there! The entire audience not counting band members was 13 people. Of those I was perhaps the only person there who knew the words and often the only one dancing. It was rather like they were just playing for me, and that may explain why they didn't do the encore that the set list appeared to promise. Nonetheless, I got to go away very happy with the performance, and I hope they got longer at Sonic Rock and more people because they surely deserved it. Yours all, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jun 21 10:51:23 2010 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:51:23 +0000 Subject: Litmus and Darxtar - The Bull and Gate 17.06.2010 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As ever, I have to chip in with one or two corrections:). ? The Litmus setlist was: ? Dreams of Space Spark Red Skies Kings of Infinite Space Earthbound Slaughterbahn Under the Sign Static Infinity Drive/Evil/Infinity Drive ? However, my major correction has to do with the use of the term "ladies of the lights"; Lauren may be a lady but I am definitely not:). ? Thanks for the review Jon and I hope that all went well with your other important event. ? Colin ? ? --- On Mon, 21/6/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: From: Jonathan Jarrett Subject: Re: Litmus and Darxtar - The Bull and Gate 17.06.2010 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, 21 June, 2010, 14:43 On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Litmus wrote: > ??? As a warm up to this year's Sonic Rock Solstice, and as an > alternative to something that is going on in South Africa, we would > like to present a night of the finest British and Swedish spacerock > featuring Litmus and Darxtar playing a double headline gig. > > ??? This event will take place at the Bull and Gate in Kentish Town, > London on June 17th; doors open at 20:00. ??? I wasn't going to miss that, now, was I? Well, actually I nearly did, when the train I was heading into London on decided that its brakes would be best left on and left us stranded about five minutes away from journey's end. After forty-five minutes were inched far enough to deposit us at an intermediate station, and despite my best efforts, when I arrived Litmus were already playing. So I got beer while they started their way into `Kings of Infinite Space' and observed the new line-up. The new line-up is kind of an old line-up: synth and laptop wizard Anton and recently-recruited keyboardist Ollie have both gone (which is a great shame especially after all the time it took to find Ollie) but erstwhile swoosh-merchant Matt returns in their place. His contributions are not as schemingly complicated as Anton's, but may be a bit more musical, so the success of it would vary according to your taste but I thought it was working well, not least because the ladies of the lights were also doing their stuff with attention to crescendo and focal points and so on, so that often the electronic noise and the lights would all come together at particular moments of musical tension and I *really wish more people could do this*, it was good to see (and hear). ??? The setlist as I wrote it, what I saw, was: Kings of Infinite Space Earthbound Slaughterbahn [though I want to spell it Sloterbahn, for which I blame Mike Burro] Under the Sign Static Nova Drive->Evil->Nova Drive ??? Of these, all the ones you know were excellent and the insertion of `Evil' into `Nova Drive' incredibly brave and brilliantly carried off; it was easy enough to follow them on the way in but very difficult to imagine how they would get back *out* again to the main song, and it was done in a flash. Up till then I'd assumed this was improvised but, well, if they could pull themselves out of that on the fly like that then I am even more amazed by the band than I usually am. ??? The two new ones both seemed slightly different from the usual fare, not worse but perhaps more Krautrocky, though this may be a suggestion put into my head by the first title. They both made me eager to hear the new album, which hasn't actually been recorded yet so there is a problem there I'll have to deal with. Martin's vocal parts on these seemed to challenge his reach, though, and I wonder if some rewriting there wouldn't be a good idea as he was in excellent voice on the old songs, so I think they just aren't easy to sing. Simon's guitar seemed to have developed a few new tricks too, which is no bad thing as the jams can become a little stale if he doesn't keep adding new variations. ??? In the interim I managed briefly to chat with S?ren Bengtsson of DarXtar, which mainly served to confirm that he is still determined never to re-release _Darker_ (dammit!) but also that in other respects he's a lovely chap, equable and polite even to slightly frothing fans he's never met before such as myself. The actual performance was marvellous. I have lived with most of these songs for more than a decade, am fond of them all and never expected to see them live, so I was in a transport of joy for much of it, as they were flawlessly done without being mere repetitions of the records. They are of course a much gentler, more emotional and slower band than Litmus, so they seemed to have a little initial trouble regaining the crowd's attention, but once S?ren was singing that quickly dispersed; he puts a lot of feeling into his words and the band and him together slowly drew the audience into their world. Considering how rarely they play they were in perfect practice. (I do have to say, however, that the second guitarist was basically inaudible; his primary function may have been to swell the audience by bringing along several friends...) Setlist was: (intro jam) Voices We Came Too Late Blue Frozen Flame 7(?) Tired Nature ??? The last was apparently unreleased, and I had to check its title from their setlist, it was perhaps more pedestrian than the rest of the set but then after the huge glorious mourning of `Sju' I'm not sure what wouldn't have seemed underwhelming. I just wish they'd had more fans there! The entire audience not counting band members was 13 people. Of those I was perhaps the only person there who knew the words and often the only one dancing. It was rather like they were just playing for me, and that may explain why they didn't do the encore that the set list appeared to promise. Nonetheless, I got to go away very happy with the performance, and I hope they got longer at Sonic Rock and more people because they surely deserved it. Yours all, ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? ? Jon --? ? ???Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge? ? jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ???======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man.? With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???-Robert Anton Wilson From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jun 21 11:37:32 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:37:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: <201006141035.o5EAZehO029341@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, M Holmes wrote: >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, M Holmes wrote: >>> Heh. I made it onto that Spaced Out In London CD. Dunno quite how >>> though. > Just after Arthur's snail poem. Good gracious, I always thought that was Dave. Well, there we are! How many people can say they've been mistaken for Dave Brock on record? Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 21 11:43:08 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:43:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So It's a ten pinter eh?? I hadn't got to that yet, where's the snail poem?? On 6/21/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, M Holmes wrote: > >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, M Holmes wrote: >>> >>>> Heh. I made it onto that Spaced Out In London CD. Dunno quite how >>>> though. >>>> >>> > Just after Arthur's snail poem. >> > > Good gracious, I always thought that was Dave. Well, there we are! > How many people can say they've been mistaken for Dave Brock on record? > Yours, > Jon > > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 21 15:52:53 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:52:53 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: LOST in France? happy weekend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Er, the "Naughty Nik" poem?... I'll find it .... eventually On 6/21/10, mike coleman wrote: > > So It's a ten pinter eh?? > I hadn't got to that yet, where's the snail poem?? > > > On 6/21/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> >> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, M Holmes wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, M Holmes wrote: >>>> >>>>> Heh. I made it onto that Spaced Out In London CD. Dunno quite how >>>>> though. >>>>> >>>> >> Just after Arthur's snail poem. >>> >> >> Good gracious, I always thought that was Dave. Well, there we are! >> How many people can say they've been mistaken for Dave Brock on record? >> Yours, >> Jon >> >> >> -- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> ======================================================================= >> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >> opposite" >> -Robert Anton Wilson >> > > From zim594j at TNINET.SE Mon Jun 21 16:58:52 2010 From: zim594j at TNINET.SE (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:58:52 +0200 Subject: OFF: The whereabouts of Mr Harald Stuermer In-Reply-To: <27355E2D-EE68-4DAD-ABC3-DA9F43FDE5B7@tninet.se> Message-ID: Hi, can anyone help me to locate Harald Stuermer, he was our manager (The Moor) during our "german" years? Regards, Kenneth Magnusson From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 23 12:45:12 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:45:12 +0100 Subject: The music of the quarks Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 24 20:17:55 2010 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:17:55 -0400 Subject: The music of the quarks In-Reply-To: <201006231645.o5NGjC66023027@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Nice! I should stay more interested in what's going on at the LHC. 9 years ago I worked at a place where they were designing and building instrumention equipment for the collider, and it was the coolest job I ever had. I got to use a comparitively "little" accelator, Large for 1940. Very large magnet that would tug at anything ferromagnetic you were holding from 5m away, even rip it away--- but it got used as a proton beam source for verifying the "heavy ion" radiation damage survival of components used in instrumentation that's monitoring the muon drift tubes. Most of these tests that were a huge part of my job I knew were completely pointless but that's beurocracy in a worldwide colaboration to build a Large Hadron Collider. Also, some peices of instrumentation equipment have labels on the side that say "Hawkwind", camoflauged amidst all the other useless labels saying "power", "standby" "1,2,3,4,5", "data out"...etc. Working on pointless stuff, also being coerced to work inneficiently then get called inneficient as a result...... I s--t you not: (I think I've said it before on this list) there was a component (Texas Instruments?) called REG104-GA. It's a "Low Drop-out Voltage Regulator", with lots of bells and whistles, the most at the time, like some circuit designer's pathetic little wet dream. If not for the Captain Lockheed I'd never have ordered this embarrassing component for evaluation. It was a stupid rectangular chip with 8 pins, looking nothing like a voltage regulator should look like. You could just KNOW somehow it's going to be the worst candidate for a bad-weather radiation environment. If radiation criteria was realistic for electronics in proximity to the LHC...f*cking.;/ --- what I'm getting at is I could have effectively caused an important circuit to FAIL, I bet right when some really important "collision infomation" needed to get analyzed. Because of MY POWER, set back PHYSICS. By the way, did you know that much of scientific research involves people successfully getting funding for their shit, skewing everything they say to make their work sound promising, making results look as such? Not as much in Physics I don't think, but that's only because it's very accountable. What's the most unscrupulous type of science? Biology? Oh and especially Cancer reseasrch, with the money there. Who's a Biologist here? You've got something to hide. Everyone who makes money does. Tell us your stories about phony research you know of, maybe were involved with as a student. -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 24 20:51:10 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:51:10 -0500 Subject: The music of the quarks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now how can anything the LHC presents come anywhere near the marvel of the RG-400 smart towel?? On 6/24/10, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > Nice! I should stay more interested in what's going on at the LHC. 9 > years ago I worked at a place where they were designing and building > instrumention equipment for the collider, and it was the coolest job I > ever had. I got to use a comparitively "little" accelator, Large for > 1940. Very large magnet that would tug at anything ferromagnetic you > were holding from 5m away, even rip it away--- but it got used as a > proton beam source for verifying the "heavy ion" radiation damage > survival of components used in instrumentation that's monitoring the > muon drift tubes. Most of these tests that were a huge part of my job > I knew were completely pointless but that's beurocracy in a > worldwide colaboration to build a Large Hadron Collider. > > Also, some peices of instrumentation equipment have labels on the side > that say "Hawkwind", camoflauged amidst all the other useless labels > saying "power", "standby" "1,2,3,4,5", "data out"...etc. > > Working on pointless stuff, also being coerced to work inneficiently > then get called inneficient as a result...... I s--t you not: (I think > I've said it before on this list) there was a component (Texas > Instruments?) called REG104-GA. It's a "Low Drop-out Voltage > Regulator", with lots of bells and whistles, the most at the time, > like some circuit designer's pathetic little wet dream. If not for the > Captain Lockheed I'd never have ordered this embarrassing component > for evaluation. It was a stupid rectangular chip with 8 pins, looking > nothing like a voltage regulator should look like. You could just KNOW > somehow it's going to be the worst candidate for a bad-weather > radiation environment. If radiation criteria was realistic for > electronics in proximity to the LHC...f*cking.;/ --- what I'm getting > at is I could have effectively caused an important circuit to FAIL, I > bet right when some really important "collision infomation" needed to > get analyzed. Because of MY POWER, set back PHYSICS. > > > By the way, did you know that much of scientific research involves > people successfully getting funding for their shit, skewing everything > they say to make their work sound promising, making results look as > such? > > Not as much in Physics I don't think, but that's only because it's > very accountable. What's the most unscrupulous type of science? > Biology? Oh and especially Cancer reseasrch, with the money there. > Who's a Biologist here? You've got something to hide. Everyone who > makes money does. Tell us your stories about phony research you know > of, maybe were involved with as a student. > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 25 12:31:18 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:31:18 -0500 Subject: The music of the quarks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hey folks, dead serious- I don't mean to ever get in Mike's way- I've simply been wanting to throw towelie in somewhere but I feel like I'm butting in with his stuff and I apologize- Arjan, where are you?? Chris, etc..... On 6/24/10, mike coleman wrote: > > Now how can anything the LHC presents come anywhere near the marvel of the > RG-400 smart towel?? > > > On 6/24/10, Owen O'Neill wrote: >> >> Nice! I should stay more interested in what's going on at the LHC. 9 >> years ago I worked at a place where they were designing and building >> instrumention equipment for the collider, and it was the coolest job I >> ever had. I got to use a comparitively "little" accelator, Large for >> 1940. Very large magnet that would tug at anything ferromagnetic you >> were holding from 5m away, even rip it away--- but it got used as a >> proton beam source for verifying the "heavy ion" radiation damage >> survival of components used in instrumentation that's monitoring the >> muon drift tubes. Most of these tests that were a huge part of my job >> I knew were completely pointless but that's beurocracy in a >> worldwide colaboration to build a Large Hadron Collider. >> >> Also, some peices of instrumentation equipment have labels on the side >> that say "Hawkwind", camoflauged amidst all the other useless labels >> saying "power", "standby" "1,2,3,4,5", "data out"...etc. >> >> Working on pointless stuff, also being coerced to work inneficiently >> then get called inneficient as a result...... I s--t you not: (I think >> I've said it before on this list) there was a component (Texas >> Instruments?) called REG104-GA. It's a "Low Drop-out Voltage >> Regulator", with lots of bells and whistles, the most at the time, >> like some circuit designer's pathetic little wet dream. If not for the >> Captain Lockheed I'd never have ordered this embarrassing component >> for evaluation. It was a stupid rectangular chip with 8 pins, looking >> nothing like a voltage regulator should look like. You could just KNOW >> somehow it's going to be the worst candidate for a bad-weather >> radiation environment. If radiation criteria was realistic for >> electronics in proximity to the LHC...f*cking.;/ --- what I'm getting >> at is I could have effectively caused an important circuit to FAIL, I >> bet right when some really important "collision infomation" needed to >> get analyzed. Because of MY POWER, set back PHYSICS. >> >> >> By the way, did you know that much of scientific research involves >> people successfully getting funding for their shit, skewing everything >> they say to make their work sound promising, making results look as >> such? >> >> Not as much in Physics I don't think, but that's only because it's >> very accountable. What's the most unscrupulous type of science? >> Biology? Oh and especially Cancer reseasrch, with the money there. >> Who's a Biologist here? You've got something to hide. Everyone who >> makes money does. Tell us your stories about phony research you know >> of, maybe were involved with as a student. >> -- >> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> > > From jt_ at COX.NET Fri Jun 25 13:38:47 2010 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:38:47 -0500 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) In-Reply-To: <36F08E03-E228-4800-B37A-579F678A6ADC@carlaz.com> Message-ID: I actually think the song might be best served by its brevity. It has a deft chilling touch. "If only you had been there, my dear .. we could have shared this together." Better ending than walking the night looking for women. OTOH, if it had been extended, I personally wouldn't have minded if "Going Through The Motions" had been left off to make room, but that's just me. It did make a great Bonnie Tyler song. And the longer version would have made a nice goodie bonus for the recent remaster. On 6/15/10 11:02 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 14 Jun 2010, at 21:25 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > >> We made Donald edit it for the album version for time but really we probably should have left it long. >> > > Yes. :) > > Oh well! For the ultimate, expanded, remastered edition ... someday .... > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Jun 25 13:45:58 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:45:58 -0700 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) In-Reply-To: <4C24E9A7.2000507@cox.net> Message-ID: I like "Going Through the Motions" even if it is a pretty pop sounding song. If I'm right that was cowritten with Ian Hunter (certainly a great songwriter). ________________________________ From: Jeff Thompson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 12:38:47 PM Subject: Re: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) I actually think the song might be best served by its brevity.? It has a deft chilling touch. "If only you had been there, my dear .. we could have shared this together." Better ending than walking the night looking for women. OTOH, if it had been extended, I personally wouldn't have minded if "Going Through The Motions" had been left off to make room, but that's just me.? It did make a great Bonnie Tyler song.? And the longer version would have made a nice goodie bonus for the recent remaster. On 6/15/10 11:02 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 14 Jun 2010, at 21:25 , Albert Bouchard wrote: >? ? >> We made Donald edit it for the album version for time but really we probably should have left it long. >>? ? ? > > Yes. :) > > Oh well!? For the ultimate, expanded, remastered edition ... someday .... > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > >? ? From davidkhardman at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 25 13:57:32 2010 From: davidkhardman at GMAIL.COM (David Hardman) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:57:32 +0100 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) In-Reply-To: <853453.8456.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The lyrics have a little joke, don't they: "I'll even sign it love to you - again" (the "again" is a reference back to Stairway to the Stars, which contains the line "I think I'll sign it love to you". Did Bonnie Tyler's version include the "again"? It surely wouldn't have made any sense. Dave On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:45 PM, gary shindler wrote: > I like "Going Through the Motions" even if it is a pretty pop sounding > song. If I'm right that was cowritten with Ian Hunter (certainly a great > songwriter). > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jeff Thompson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 12:38:47 PM > Subject: Re: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) > > I actually think the song might be best served by its brevity. It has a > deft chilling touch. > "If only you had been there, my dear .. we could have shared this > together." > > Better ending than walking the night looking for women. > > OTOH, if it had been extended, I personally wouldn't have minded if > "Going Through The Motions" > had been left off to make room, but that's just me. It did make a great > Bonnie > Tyler song. And the longer version would have made a nice goodie bonus > for the recent remaster. > > > > > On 6/15/10 11:02 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 14 Jun 2010, at 21:25 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > > > >> We made Donald edit it for the album version for time but really we > probably should have left it long. > >> > > > > Yes. :) > > > > Oh well! For the ultimate, expanded, remastered edition ... someday .... > > > > Cheers, > > Carl > > > > -- > > Carl Edlund Anderson > > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > > > > > -- JDM textbook blog: http://judgmentanddecisionmaking.blogspot.com My other shared stuff is at: http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman From davidkhardman at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 25 14:01:30 2010 From: davidkhardman at GMAIL.COM (David Hardman) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:01:30 +0100 Subject: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To answer my own question, yes Bonnie did include the "again". See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJeyQWJiUEc Dave On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:57 PM, David Hardman wrote: > The lyrics have a little joke, don't they: "I'll even sign it love to you - > again" (the "again" is a reference back to Stairway to the Stars, which > contains the line "I think I'll sign it love to you". Did Bonnie Tyler's > version include the "again"? It surely wouldn't have made any sense. > > Dave > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:45 PM, gary shindler wrote: > >> I like "Going Through the Motions" even if it is a pretty pop sounding >> song. If I'm right that was cowritten with Ian Hunter (certainly a great >> songwriter). >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Jeff Thompson >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Fri, June 25, 2010 12:38:47 PM >> Subject: Re: Lyrics to I Love The Night (extended version) >> >> I actually think the song might be best served by its brevity. It has a >> deft chilling touch. >> "If only you had been there, my dear .. we could have shared this >> together." >> >> Better ending than walking the night looking for women. >> >> OTOH, if it had been extended, I personally wouldn't have minded if >> "Going Through The Motions" >> had been left off to make room, but that's just me. It did make a great >> Bonnie >> Tyler song. And the longer version would have made a nice goodie bonus >> for the recent remaster. >> >> >> >> >> On 6/15/10 11:02 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> > On 14 Jun 2010, at 21:25 , Albert Bouchard wrote: >> > >> >> We made Donald edit it for the album version for time but really we >> probably should have left it long. >> >> >> > >> > Yes. :) >> > >> > Oh well! For the ultimate, expanded, remastered edition ... someday >> .... >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Carl >> > >> > -- >> > Carl Edlund Anderson >> > http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > JDM textbook blog: http://judgmentanddecisionmaking.blogspot.com > > My other shared stuff is at: > http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman > -- JDM textbook blog: http://judgmentanddecisionmaking.blogspot.com My other shared stuff is at: http://www.google.com/profiles/davidkhardman From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jun 27 06:43:39 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:43:39 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 27, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #241). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #241) ?resund Space Collective ? ?Slip Into The Vortex? (from Slip Into The Vortex) My Brother The Wind ? ?Electric Universe? (from Twilight In The Crystal Cabinet) Quarkspace ? ?Durable Space 2? (from Spacefolds 10) Omenopus ? ?Always (Spirit Free)? (From Portents) SourceCodeX ? ?Face Of The Deep? (from forthcoming Cry of the Ekklesia) KREL SET Krel ? ?Space Trip?/?Saturation? (from Lost in Space) Krel ? ?Out Of The Ashes? (from Who?s Next On This?) Krel ? ?Twilight City?/?I Wanna See Stars? (from Earth Zero) Krel ? ?Star Fall? (from Ad Astra) Krel ? ?Satellites? (from Ad Astra) Krel ? ?It?s Alive? (from Out of Space) The Vernon Dent ? ?Ulterior? (from Louder) The Vernon Dent ? ?Benevolence? (from The Vernon Dent) Rancho Relaxo ? ?Plan Your Revolution? (from New Kind of Orchide) Harold Nono/Hidekazu Wakabayashi - "Let?s Go Find Mushrooms" (from Harold Nono/Hidekazu Wakabayashi) Kakaokamkami ? ?Untitled 1? (from Snowballs) http://Aural-Innovations.com From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jun 28 12:44:20 2010 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:44:20 +0000 Subject: Thank You Hawkwind..One Eyed Bishops will appear at Isle of Wight Hawkfest Message-ID: I would like to personally thank Hawkwind for once again inviting us to perform at their festival. ( Hawkfest ). We last performed in 2002 at the first of these annual events, and we are honored to be among the bands selected for this year's festival on the Isle of Wight. We are preparing a set list that will 'dig deep'. The current OEB lineup should be cracking with the return of Phil 'Headsmith' Smith on lead guitar. Stalwart bassist Jeff Berry will traveling to The UK with me, and we will once again have Dan Tilbury on drums ( Headsmith, UK Snakes ). In addition we should have the mighty 'Ant' from Phil Smith's 'Fluke' on Saxophone. I am looking forward to everything about this festival..This is going to be a much heavier OEB set than in 2002... Looking forward to seeing Hawkwind & everyone else too...All the very best, Mike Burro Here are a few relevant web links: HAWKWIND: official website : http://www.Hawkwind.com ( see special Hawkfest 2010 link ) Official Hawkfest myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/hawkfest2007 BlueRiff Records UK: home of Headsmith, One Eyed Bishops & more: http://blueriff.webs.com/ One Eyed Bishops / Sloterdijk myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 Headsmith website : http://www.myspace.com/headsmithband _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Jun 28 20:23:11 2010 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:23:11 -0400 Subject: BOC: Tangent and Setlist CD track list (with the VIGIL!) Message-ID: John Wurster, of superchunk talks about his favorite BOC tune and the Brain Surgeons. http://www.avclub.com/articles/random-rules-jon-wurster,1845/ This might be the other Setlist disc that came up a while ago: Setlist: The Very Best of Blue Oyster Cult Live - In addition to drawing on tracks from the albums On Your Feet Or On Your Knees (1975), Some Enchanted Evening (1978), and Extraterrestrial Live (1982), there are several previously unreleased tracks: * R. U. Ready To Rock * Cities On Flame * The Red & The Black * Godzilla (previously unreleased, promo single, Cobo Arena, Detroit, 1977) * 7 Screaming Diz-Busters * (Don't Fear) The Reaper * Harvester Of Eyes * Black Blade * The Vigil (previously unreleased, Zellerbach Aud., Berkeley, 1979) * Flaming Telepaths (UK single, previously unreleased in U.S., Bonds Casino, 1981) * 5 Guitars * ME 262 Read more: http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/search/label/Blue%20Oyster%20Cult#ixzz0sCGsjzgl From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Jun 28 21:40:14 2010 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:40:14 -0700 Subject: BOC: Tangent and Setlist CD track list (with the VIGIL!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's cool but who wants another live "Godzilla?" I could do without hearing that song for a long time... ________________________________ From: Jason Scruton To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 7:23:11 PM Subject: BOC: Tangent and Setlist CD track list (with the VIGIL!) John Wurster, of superchunk talks about his favorite BOC tune and the Brain Surgeons. http://www.avclub.com/articles/random-rules-jon-wurster,1845/ This might be the other Setlist disc that came up a while ago: Setlist: The Very Best of Blue Oyster Cult Live - In addition to drawing on tracks from the albums On Your Feet Or On Your Knees (1975), Some Enchanted Evening (1978), and Extraterrestrial Live (1982), there are several previously unreleased tracks: * R. U. Ready To Rock * Cities On Flame * The Red & The Black * Godzilla (previously unreleased, promo single, Cobo Arena, Detroit, 1977) * 7 Screaming Diz-Busters * (Don't Fear) The Reaper * Harvester Of Eyes * Black Blade * The Vigil (previously unreleased, Zellerbach Aud., Berkeley, 1979) * Flaming Telepaths (UK single, previously unreleased in U.S., Bonds Casino, 1981) * 5 Guitars * ME 262 Read more: http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/search/label/Blue%20Oyster%20Cult#ixzz0sCGsjzgl From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Jun 28 22:48:49 2010 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason M. Scruton) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:48:49 -0400 Subject: BOC: Tangent and Setlist CD track list (with the VIGIL!) In-Reply-To: <421209.1385.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Point well taken. However, it could possibly be the live gozilla single that was released in 78: GODZILLA (Live) / GODZILLA Columbia 3-10725 (1978) (see: http://www.blueoystercult.com/Studio/USsingle.html ) Quoting gary shindler : > That's cool but who wants another live "Godzilla?" I could do > without hearing that song for a long time... > ________________________________ > From: Jason Scruton > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 7:23:11 PM > Subject: BOC: Tangent and Setlist CD track list (with the VIGIL!) > > John Wurster, of superchunk talks about his favorite BOC tune and the Brain > Surgeons. > > http://www.avclub.com/articles/random-rules-jon-wurster,1845/ > > This might be the other Setlist disc that came up a while ago: > Setlist: The Very Best of Blue Oyster Cult Live - In addition to drawing on > tracks from the albums On Your Feet Or On Your Knees (1975), Some Enchanted > Evening (1978), and Extraterrestrial Live (1982), there are several > previously unreleased tracks: > > * R. U. Ready To Rock > * Cities On Flame > * The Red & The Black > * Godzilla (previously unreleased, promo single, Cobo Arena, Detroit, > 1977) > * 7 Screaming Diz-Busters > * (Don't Fear) The Reaper > * Harvester Of Eyes > * Black Blade > * The Vigil (previously unreleased, Zellerbach Aud., Berkeley, 1979) > * Flaming Telepaths (UK single, previously unreleased in U.S., Bonds > Casino, 1981) > * 5 Guitars > * ME 262 > > > Read more: > http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/search/label/Blue%20Oyster%20Cult#ixzz0sCGsjzgl > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 29 05:31:03 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:31:03 +0100 Subject: Thank You Hawkwind..One Eyed Bishops will appear at Isle of Wight Hawkfest In-Reply-To: Burro Mike's message of Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:44:20 +0000 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jun 29 08:21:31 2010 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:21:31 -0500 Subject: off: dr who and orbital at glastonbury Message-ID: I'll note that I still think HW should do a cover of the theme song for DW. Matt Smith playing with Orbital on stage at Glastonbury for their version of the classic theme. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF_R5UJGt-g&feature=player_embedded Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Solutions Architecture Consultant IT Project Delivery/Information Technology Services University of Chicago tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 29 09:12:51 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:12:51 +0800 Subject: off: dr who and orbital at glastonbury In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The timelord rules! :) On 29 June 2010 20:21, Arin Komins wrote: > I'll note that I still think HW should do a cover of the theme song for DW. > > Matt Smith playing with Orbital on stage at Glastonbury for their version > of the classic theme. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF_R5UJGt-g&feature=player_embedded > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Solutions Architecture Consultant > IT Project Delivery/Information Technology Services > University of Chicago tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Jun 30 05:04:29 2010 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:04:29 +0200 Subject: HW: Blood on the Earth Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Seems Amazon was the wrong place to order Blood on the Earth. I just got a mail saying it would now arrive on July 19th! So much for a Solstice release... I really look forward to hearing the record and making my own judgement. Seems to have quite mixed views at the moment. I was not all the impressed with the last studio record 5 years ago but it did have a few good songs. Anyone else having trouble getting it?? Does anyone have the double vinyl version yet? scott PS: The new ?resund Space Collective CD, Slip into the Vortex is out now.. Our 6th CD..... www.oresundspacecollective.com From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Jun 30 05:41:51 2010 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 05:41:51 -0400 Subject: HW: Blood on the Earth In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E92318965990@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: I saw the CD album in Fopp yesterday, didn't buy it as have HMV order for Vinyl & 2xCD - and now in delay - BUGGER !!!!!! I hope no one has the Vinyl yet, i'd be seriously pissed off... Iain -----Original Message----- From: SHLL (Scott Heller) To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 10:04 am Subject: HW: Blood on the Earth Hello Everyone, Seems Amazon was the wrong place to order Blood on the Earth. I just got a mail saying it would now arrive on July 19th! So much for a Solstice release... I really look forward to hearing the record and making my own judgement. Seems to have quite mixed views at the moment. I was not all the impressed with the last studio record 5 years ago but it did have a few good songs. Anyone else having trouble getting it?? Does anyone have the double vinyl version yet? scott PS: The new ?resund Space Collective CD, Slip into the Vortex is out now.. Our 6th CD..... www.oresundspacecollective.com From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 30 06:24:12 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:24:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Blood on the Earth In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E92318965990@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: I've ordered mine (2xCD version) from Send-it.com and they have advised a delay from suppliers. So frustrating. Steve On 30 June 2010 10:04, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Seems Amazon was the wrong place to order Blood on the Earth. I just got a > mail saying it would now arrive on July 19th! So much for a Solstice > release... I really look forward to hearing the record and making my own > judgement. Seems to have quite mixed views at the moment. I was not all the > impressed with the last studio record 5 years ago but it did have a few good > songs. > > Anyone else having trouble getting it?? Does anyone have the double vinyl > version yet? > > scott > > PS: The new ?resund Space Collective CD, Slip into the Vortex is out now.. > Our 6th CD..... > > www.oresundspacecollective.com > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 30 08:42:35 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:42:35 +0800 Subject: HW: Blood on the Earth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Only the single CD is out yet, it seems Mine came from CD WOW! very fast. Hey, we waited 5 years, so what's a few days! ;) On 30 June 2010 18:24, Steve Freight wrote: > I've ordered mine (2xCD version) from Send-it.com and they have advised a > delay from suppliers. > > So frustrating. > > Steve > > On 30 June 2010 10:04, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Seems Amazon was the wrong place to order Blood on the Earth. I just got > a > > mail saying it would now arrive on July 19th! So much for a Solstice > > release... I really look forward to hearing the record and making my own > > judgement. Seems to have quite mixed views at the moment. I was not all > the > > impressed with the last studio record 5 years ago but it did have a few > good > > songs. > > > > Anyone else having trouble getting it?? Does anyone have the double vinyl > > version yet? > > > > scott > > > > PS: The new ?resund Space Collective CD, Slip into the Vortex is out > now.. > > Our 6th CD..... > > > > www.oresundspacecollective.com > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Jun 30 09:04:45 2010 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:04:45 -0400 Subject: HW: Blood on the Earth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just had confirmation fro my supplier that the vinyl is on its way -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Smith To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 1:42 pm Subject: Re: HW: Blood on the Earth Only the single CD is out yet, it seems Mine came from CD WOW! very fast. Hey, we waited 5 years, so what's a few days! ;) On 30 June 2010 18:24, Steve Freight wrote: > I've ordered mine (2xCD version) from Send-it.com and they have advised a > delay from suppliers. > > So frustrating. > > Steve > > On 30 June 2010 10:04, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Seems Amazon was the wrong place to order Blood on the Earth. I just got > a > > mail saying it would now arrive on July 19th! So much for a Solstice > > release... I really look forward to hearing the record and making my own > > judgement. Seems to have quite mixed views at the moment. I was not all > the > > impressed with the last studio record 5 years ago but it did have a few > good > > songs. > > > > Anyone else having trouble getting it?? Does anyone have the double vinyl > > version yet? > > > > scott > > > > PS: The new ?resund Space Collective CD, Slip into the Vortex is out > now.. > > Our 6th CD..... > > > > www.oresundspacecollective.com > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 30 11:22:59 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Human Hyperparasitaoid) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:22:59 -0500 Subject: (was) HW: Blood on the Earth (now) Blood OF the Earth Message-ID: The human race is too cheap and pathetic to make LP mailers just slightly bigger or of cardboard that is strong enough except in VERY few instances so I have to get my vinyl from my local pusher who will make the distributer supply my record jackets unblemished. Glad to hear the vinyl is out which means I'll get it slightly later. I currently want mandatory jail time for anyone who risks an LP jacket in the mail and a heavy fine and I want to bring a lawsuit against whoever in the American music industry had the cute idea of doing cut-outs.... anyway, I'd be curious in hearing anything regarding these mixed reviews.... I don't expect much or do much judgement of HW material anymore, because they've already given enough anyway and it mostly destroys everybody else. I do have to say I agree with Scott if he refers to TTYL....that one is uphill for me in terms of HW. But I still want to know what is being said,,,,, Mike C On 6/30/10, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: > > Just had confirmation fro my supplier that the vinyl is on its way > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Smith > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 1:42 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Blood on the Earth > > > Only the single CD is out yet, it seems Mine came from CD WOW! very fast. > > > > Hey, we waited 5 years, so what's a few days! ;) > > > > On 30 June 2010 18:24, Steve Freight wrote: > > > > > I've ordered mine (2xCD version) from Send-it.com and they have advised a > > > delay from suppliers. > > > > > > So frustrating. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > On 30 June 2010 10:04, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > Seems Amazon was the wrong place to order Blood on the Earth. I just > got > > > a > > > > mail saying it would now arrive on July 19th! So much for a Solstice > > > > release... I really look forward to hearing the record and making my > own > > > > judgement. Seems to have quite mixed views at the moment. I was not all > > > the > > > > impressed with the last studio record 5 years ago but it did have a few > > > good > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > Anyone else having trouble getting it?? Does anyone have the double > vinyl > > > > version yet? > > > > > > > > scott > > > > > > > > PS: The new ?resund Space Collective CD, Slip into the Vortex is out > > > now.. > > > > Our 6th CD..... > > > > > > > > www.oresundspacecollective.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 30 16:52:26 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:52:26 -0500 Subject: Re (OFF): HW: Blood on the Earth Message-ID: Of course if "God" doesn't do it, and the governments don't cause it, mother nature CERTAINLY WILL..... yes yes, I think Bood On the Earth fits right in...... hahaha MUHAHAHAHAHA On 6/30/10, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: > > Just had confirmation fro my supplier that the vinyl is on its way > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Smith > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, Jun 30, 2010 1:42 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Blood on the Earth > > > Only the single CD is out yet, it seems Mine came from CD WOW! very fast. > > > > Hey, we waited 5 years, so what's a few days! ;) > > > > On 30 June 2010 18:24, Steve Freight wrote: > > > > > I've ordered mine (2xCD version) from Send-it.com and they have advised a > > > delay from suppliers. > > > > > > So frustrating. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > On 30 June 2010 10:04, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > Seems Amazon was the wrong place to order Blood on the Earth. I just > got > > > a > > > > mail saying it would now arrive on July 19th! So much for a Solstice > > > > release... I really look forward to hearing the record and making my > own > > > > judgement. Seems to have quite mixed views at the moment. I was not all > > > the > > > > impressed with the last studio record 5 years ago but it did have a few > > > good > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > Anyone else having trouble getting it?? Does anyone have the double > vinyl > > > > version yet? > > > > > > > > scott > > > > > > > > PS: The new ?resund Space Collective CD, Slip into the Vortex is out > > > now.. > > > > Our 6th CD..... > > > > > > > > www.oresundspacecollective.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > > > > > From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Wed Jun 30 18:01:58 2010 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:01:58 -0400 Subject: Blood Of The Earth vinyl is shipping... Message-ID: The wait is over. At last the double vinyl is being shipped. http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1;-1&sku=268471 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 30 18:08:26 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:08:26 -0500 Subject: Blood Of The Earth vinyl is shipping... In-Reply-To: <8CCE6B6FEEAD7C2-2078-9807@webmail-m063.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Everybody got their carbon fibre brushes?? If not better get on 'em... Might want to grab a couple jap-style inners while you're at it..... cheers On 6/30/10, stevepxr5 at aol.com wrote: > > The wait is over. > At last the double vinyl is being shipped. > > > > http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1;-1&sku=268471 > > > >