From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 1 05:38:58 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:38:58 +0000 Subject: Planet Rock Greatest Ever Cover Version Poll - Hawkwind? Message-ID: Planet rock are doing a poll of the greatest ever cover version - why don't we all nominate Gimme Shelter (just HW version)? I've chosen this over WFTM as it is easily available for play. Link here http://www.planetrock.com/article.asp?id=1643279 Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 1 14:33:42 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:33:42 +0300 Subject: Planet Rock Greatest Ever Cover Version Poll - Hawkwind? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is only one problem with doing that. Hawkwind's "Gimme Shelter" is not very good! ;( On 01/01/2010, Steve Freight wrote: > Planet rock are doing a poll of the greatest ever cover version - why don't > we all nominate Gimme Shelter (just HW version)? > > I've chosen this over WFTM as it is easily available for play. > > Link here > > http://www.planetrock.com/article.asp?id=1643279 > > Steve > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 1 17:24:07 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:24:07 +0000 Subject: Planet Rock Greatest Ever Cover Version Poll - Hawkwind? In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001011133g2dd75961pea4d8fdee736b326@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That didn't stop Rage Against The Machine! Time to raise the HW profile methinks. Let's co-ordinate. Steve On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote: > There is only one problem with doing that. Hawkwind's "Gimme Shelter" > is not very good! ;( > > On 01/01/2010, Steve Freight wrote: > > Planet rock are doing a poll of the greatest ever cover version - why > don't > > we all nominate Gimme Shelter (just HW version)? > > > > I've chosen this over WFTM as it is easily available for play. > > > > Link here > > > > http://www.planetrock.com/article.asp?id=1643279 > > > > Steve > > -- > > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jan 2 14:25:11 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 19:25:11 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <39dabad60912140509v73a83998o703e718c4616fc30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: > It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds great. * > Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be true. > There was Hassan i Sabbah.... > > 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson > >> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's Bedouin has >>>> recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept album for Rise Above >>>> based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul Alhazred". If only I could >>>> dimension hop to the right universe in order to hear it! :) >>> >>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact after >>> listening to it! ;) >> >> It would totally work, though, no? >> >> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- >> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig the label >> "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather wish I had. :) >> The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups ... but I totally see a >> space in which psychedelically tinged doom, underlain by Alan's surging bass >> lines, could play .... Well, in that charmingly alternate universe, anyway! A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked with Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female vocalist who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next Bedouin album (I can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty sure this was after Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it was a *long* time ago) so as to make music that really lived up to the potential of the name. It's therefore kind of weird to find him collaborating with Bridget Wishart again now! That's almost the antithesis of that plan! I'd like to think that if he'd found the sinder, it would have been the album you envision, Carl, it could completely have worked, you're right. And Rise Above would have been a natural home for it; we've often commented here, I remember, on how strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the space/stoner divide, which really isn't that big. Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my usual message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're actually facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good with children anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to indulge that tendency :-) Good luck, yours, Jon ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jan 2 15:08:25 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:08:25 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's >>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept >>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character " Although I don't agree with Mr. Lovecraft's attitudes toward women and black people I do like a good story, even though after a while the stories follow a similar pattern. I'd think one would need to take care in that alternate universe, I wouldn't want to cross paths with that mad Arab he refers to so often. A concept album would be really cool. Vision Quest is such a great song. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:25 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: > It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds > great. * > Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be true. > There was Hassan i Sabbah.... > > 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson > >> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's >>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept >>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul >>>> Alhazred". If only I could dimension hop to the right universe in >>>> order to hear it! :) >>> >>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact >>> after listening to it! ;) >> >> It would totally work, though, no? >> >> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- >> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig the >> label "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather wish >> I had. :) The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups ... but >> I totally see a space in which psychedelically tinged doom, underlain >> by Alan's surging bass lines, could play .... Well, in that >> charmingly alternate universe, anyway! A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked with Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female vocalist who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next Bedouin album (I can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty sure this was after Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it was a *long* time ago) so as to make music that really lived up to the potential of the name. It's therefore kind of weird to find him collaborating with Bridget Wishart again now! That's almost the antithesis of that plan! I'd like to think that if he'd found the sinder, it would have been the album you envision, Carl, it could completely have worked, you're right. And Rise Above would have been a natural home for it; we've often commented here, I remember, on how strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the space/stoner divide, which really isn't that big. Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my usual message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're actually facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good with children anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to indulge that tendency :-) Good luck, yours, Jon ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sat Jan 2 17:12:35 2010 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:12:35 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had > something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked > with Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female > vocalist who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next > Bedouin album (I can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty > sure this was after Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it > was a *long* time ago) so as to make music that really lived up to the > potential of the name. This got me thinking about David Byrne and Brian Eno-My Life In The Bush if Ghosts. Found this while looking around http://bush-of-ghosts.com/remix/bush_of_ghosts.htm From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 3 03:30:35 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:30:35 +0800 Subject: Planet Rock Greatest Ever Cover Version Poll - Hawkwind? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You mean "Kick Out the Jams?" That was very good, but "Shelter" is terrible, much as I love HW! Jonathan 2010/1/2 Steve Freight > That didn't stop Rage Against The Machine! > > Time to raise the HW profile methinks. > > Let's co-ordinate. > > Steve > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Jonathan Smith >wrote: > > > There is only one problem with doing that. Hawkwind's "Gimme Shelter" > > is not very good! ;( > > > > On 01/01/2010, Steve Freight wrote: > > > Planet rock are doing a poll of the greatest ever cover version - why > > don't > > > we all nominate Gimme Shelter (just HW version)? > > > > > > I've chosen this over WFTM as it is easily available for play. > > > > > > Link here > > > > > > http://www.planetrock.com/article.asp?id=1643279 > > > > > > Steve > > > -- > > > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK Sun Jan 3 15:04:51 2010 From: Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 20:04:51 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind on Radio 6 music Message-ID: Hi, Merrily painting my kitchen today and was pleased to hear Hawkwind get an airing on Radio 6. For a change it wasn't Silver Machine but Golden Void. Sounded very fresh! Maybe this year will see a popular resurgence! Happy New Year to all. Maxine From Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK Mon Jan 4 05:26:50 2010 From: Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:26:50 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Radio 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi again, I must admit the whole show was rather good - so the link is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b0072l4x/console best wishes Maxine From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 5 08:00:13 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:00:13 +0000 Subject: (off) Hawkwind Zoo?? In-Reply-To: <17d80c610912210611l68689fb0o2d09e8231ebbeeba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, mike coleman wrote: > I absoluteky LOVE sacking Kosh Shurely `Kush'? Ed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush Except that if you were sacking Kush that would probably make you a Nubian... and somehow your accent online just doesn't seem right :-) Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 5 09:55:07 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:55:07 +0000 Subject: Yuletide greetings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Jill Strobridge wrote: > All I want for Xmas is........ a new Hawkwind album for the new year! That > would be sooooo gooood. Especially a live one as good as recent shows have > been! I do hope this line-up and its songs get documented somehow, for sure. I don't know how much hope there is of a studio album though I feel sure Dibs would like to make one and there is some material there, but even a live one would do because it does seem that these gigs are all going down very well, doesn't it? Long may it continue! Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 5 17:51:13 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:51:13 -0600 Subject: (off) Hawkwind Zoo?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: yes that too. I have reached maximum intolorance level, and the entire earth with all it's prutrid contents has been sacked, depite that I did, in fact "anubian light" in the new year. I will now resume sacking outward and beyond to the pesky bumbling creators....... It may bnecome an unstoppable sackuum. I'm pissed On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, mike coleman wrote: > > I absoluteky LOVE sacking Kosh >> > > Shurely `Kush'? Ed. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush > Except that if you were sacking Kush that would probably make you a > Nubian... and somehow your accent online just doesn't seem right :-) Yours, > Jon > > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 5 17:54:15 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:54:15 -0600 Subject: (off) Hawkwind Zoo?? In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001051451q3ea998e4p7f63da5f56bb46fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: so pissed in fact, that spelling has become insignificant...... On 1/5/10, mike coleman wrote: > > yes that too. I have reached maximum intolorance level, and the entire > earth with all it's prutrid contents has been sacked, depite that I did, in > fact "anubian light" in the new year. > I will now resume sacking outward and beyond to the pesky bumbling > creators....... > It may bnecome an unstoppable sackuum. > I'm pissed > > > > On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> >> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, mike coleman wrote: >> >> I absoluteky LOVE sacking Kosh >>> >> >> Shurely `Kush'? Ed. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush >> Except that if you were sacking Kush that would probably make you a >> Nubian... and somehow your accent online just doesn't seem right :-) Yours, >> Jon >> >> >> -- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> ======================================================================= >> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >> opposite" >> -Robert Anton Wilson >> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 5 17:59:29 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:59:29 -0600 Subject: (off) Hawkwind Zoo?? In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001051454q13c422cfu658d6e15aa3dd82e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I will however be taking Bun Bun with me as I speed away with my path ahead well lit for a few moments Kosh is toast On 1/5/10, mike coleman wrote: > > so pissed in fact, that spelling has become insignificant...... > > > On 1/5/10, mike coleman wrote: >> >> yes that too. I have reached maximum intolorance level, and the entire >> earth with all it's prutrid contents has been sacked, depite that I did, in >> fact "anubian light" in the new year. >> I will now resume sacking outward and beyond to the pesky bumbling >> creators....... >> It may bnecome an unstoppable sackuum. >> I'm pissed >> >> >> >> On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, mike coleman wrote: >>> >>> I absoluteky LOVE sacking Kosh >>>> >>> >>> Shurely `Kush'? Ed. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush >>> Except that if you were sacking Kush that would probably make you a >>> Nubian... and somehow your accent online just doesn't seem right :-) Yours, >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >>> ======================================================================= >>> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >>> opposite" >>> -Robert Anton Wilson >>> >> >> > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 5 18:13:18 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 23:13:18 +0000 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: <17d80c610912231632g36439e94m9cfef1c9716a7ea4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, mike coleman wrote: > I always wondered why my copy of "so many minds" bugged me a bit but I just > noticed (again, years later) that while the CD advertises 8 tracks, my copy > only reads 4, and that track goes on for like 40 minutes... > so.... > are there some hidden tracks that can be recovered or do I gave a collectors > item and need to head out to Amazon??? Mine is like this too, I think they all are. Well, actually mine's not quite like that: there are four audio tracks as seen by the CD player; the track-listing on the back of the case lists six; and the sleeve notes also refer to tracks #7 & #8. So none of it adds up. If yours isn't like that then one of us may have a collectors' item, but I'm not sure which or by how much. Years ago I mailed Buck McGibbony, the original bass player who's on the first three albums, about this--at least, I mailed the contact address on the initial Farflung website--all praise the Wayback Machine! it's been archived, having apparently been taken down in early 2001, at: http://web.archive.org/web/20000824132513/www.wgn.net/~gnudarve/farflung/ --and that's who answered. He's an odd man and didn't make things quite as clear as one might have liked, but if I remember rightly this much is true: (i) the mastering plant and the artwork people both screwed up--but I'm not sure whether there were supposed to be six or eight tracks in the 'right' version. (ii) I had it `roughly right' that `Raven' as it stands is the correct full track #1, `Sonic Evaporation' is the following track with the "I'm disintegrating..." refrain as far as the unexpected multicoloured organ cascade, which is `Helianthus', `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' is what happens next and `Alius Orbis' starts with the crushing downwards riff that we can also identify because it's been in a live set or two like the Strange Daze CD-R. `The Way the Sky Is' is of course on _So Many Minds_ so we know that one, and `(It's Not A Bad Dream)' refers to the forty-minute circus organ outtro we all know and dread. (Dare *you* listen to the thing carefully enough to see if it repeats anywhere? I'm not sure it's looped, I think they may actually have played it.) (iii) However, if I'm only `roughly' right about that I have no idea where I might be wrong, if you follow. If you had to make eight out of this I would split either `Sonic Evaporation' or `Alius Orbis', which does in this scheme have a lengthy second part that's not in the live version, but I'm not sure which, and count `Not a Bad Dream' as a separate track for #8. I could be way wrong though. It would make more sense maybe to split `Sonic Evaporation', because then track #4 and track #8 would both be organ-led which might explain the common writing credit they have in the sleeve, but since track #8 was apparently recorded separately anyway there might be nothing in that. Who knows? Presumably Gre?as, if anyone wants to ask him. Annoyingly, this seems to have been in the term's worth of mail I forgot to back up when I first graduated, so I can't go back to the original words McGibbony (or Alien Gnudarve Lovejoy, as he was trading) or I used. Oh well. And, as a postscript, let's note that both McGibbony in e-mail and McGibbony on the website claim that _So Many Minds..._ contains the full two-part version of the `Raven' suite, and indeed my copy of _So Many Minds..._ has the lyrics for the latter part, but it's not actually on the disc, only the same first half as is on the eponymous album is there. Since the album also has tracks 3 and 6 listed in the opposite order to which they appear through the speakers, I assumed this was another mastering plant error, but now that I think about it it is strange that McGibbony *believed* it had the full version on, because unlike a lot of what he seems to have believed, and may still believe wherever he now is, this could easily be checked. Do I have a weird version of *this* disc, or is everyone else's like that too? Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _California Brainstorm_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 5 18:44:24 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 17:44:24 -0600 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oh good, despite the timewarp my switched cd's didn't mess him up. I dropped out of 11 th grade Jon, but if Brian's still running around in Marina Del Rey, and releasing music I'm willling to chase him and Tommy too I don't have "when science fails" or "Nine Pin Body" so any comments as to how deep my food rations should now go- appreciated If I can add anything here I will- thanks Jon On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, mike coleman wrote: > > I always wondered why my copy of "so many minds" bugged me a bit but I just >> noticed (again, years later) that while the CD advertises 8 tracks, my >> copy >> only reads 4, and that track goes on for like 40 minutes... >> so.... >> are there some hidden tracks that can be recovered or do I gave a >> collectors >> item and need to head out to Amazon??? >> > > Mine is like this too, I think they all are. Well, actually mine's > not quite like that: there are four audio tracks as seen by the CD player; > the track-listing on the back of the case lists six; and the sleeve notes > also refer to tracks #7 & #8. So none of it adds up. If yours isn't like > that then one of us may have a collectors' item, but I'm not sure which or > by how much. > > Years ago I mailed Buck McGibbony, the original bass player who's on > the first three albums, about this--at least, I mailed the contact address > on the initial Farflung website--all praise the Wayback Machine! it's been > archived, having apparently been taken down in early 2001, at: > http://web.archive.org/web/20000824132513/www.wgn.net/~gnudarve/farflung/ > --and that's who answered. He's an odd man and didn't make things quite as > clear as one might have liked, but if I remember rightly this much is true: > > (i) the mastering plant and the artwork people both screwed up--but I'm not > sure whether there were supposed to be six or eight tracks in the 'right' > version. > > (ii) I had it `roughly right' that `Raven' as it stands is the correct full > track #1, `Sonic Evaporation' is the following track with the "I'm > disintegrating..." refrain as far as the unexpected multicoloured organ > cascade, which is `Helianthus', `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' is what > happens next and `Alius Orbis' starts with the crushing downwards riff that > we can also identify because it's been in a live set or two like the Strange > Daze CD-R. `The Way the Sky Is' is of course on _So Many Minds_ so we know > that one, and `(It's Not A Bad Dream)' refers to the forty-minute circus > organ outtro we all know and dread. (Dare *you* listen to the thing > carefully enough to see if it repeats anywhere? I'm not sure it's looped, I > think they may actually have played it.) > > (iii) However, if I'm only `roughly' right about that I have no idea where > I might be wrong, if you follow. If you had to make eight out of this I > would split either `Sonic Evaporation' or `Alius Orbis', which does in this > scheme have a lengthy second part that's not in the live version, but I'm > not sure which, and count `Not a Bad Dream' as a separate track for #8. I > could be way wrong though. It would make more sense maybe to split `Sonic > Evaporation', because then track #4 and track #8 would both be organ-led > which might explain the common writing credit they have in the sleeve, but > since track #8 was apparently recorded separately anyway there might be > nothing in that. Who knows? Presumably Gre?as, if anyone wants to ask him. > Annoyingly, this seems to have been in the term's worth of mail I forgot to > back up when I first graduated, so I can't go back to the original words > McGibbony (or Alien Gnudarve Lovejoy, as he was trading) or I used. Oh well. > > And, as a postscript, let's note that both McGibbony in e-mail and > McGibbony on the website claim that _So Many Minds..._ contains the full > two-part version of the `Raven' suite, and indeed my copy of _So Many > Minds..._ has the lyrics for the latter part, but it's not actually on the > disc, only the same first half as is on the eponymous album is there. Since > the album also has tracks 3 and 6 listed in the opposite order to which they > appear through the speakers, I assumed this was another mastering plant > error, but now that I think about it it is strange that McGibbony *believed* > it had the full version on, because unlike a lot of what he seems to have > believed, and may still believe wherever he now is, this could easily be > checked. Do I have a weird version of *this* disc, or is everyone else's > like that too? Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Hawkwind - _California Brainstorm_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM Tue Jan 5 18:55:13 2010 From: david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM (Dave Hall) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 23:55:13 +0000 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 Regards Dave From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jan 6 09:50:29 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:50:29 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <3B7A0A0669C0410DA1F0D769503C198B@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Lovecraftiana is one of my other great enthusiasms besides BOC/Hawkwind. ;-) This Holiday season I was listening to the "Scary Solstice" albums by the awesome and wonderful H.P. Lovecraft Historical Society: http://www.cthulhulives.org/store/store.lasso?1=product&2=122 My friends and I have had these albums for a few years now, and some of us have virtually forgotten the "real" lyrics to a lot of these carols.... ;-) Steve On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mary Sullivan wrote: > Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character " > > Although I don't agree with Mr. Lovecraft's attitudes toward women and black > people I do like a good story, even though after a while the stories follow > a similar pattern. ?I'd think one would need to take care in that alternate > universe, I wouldn't want to cross paths with that mad Arab he refers to so > often. ?A concept album would be really cool. ?Vision Quest is such a great > song. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:25 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds >> great. * >> Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be true. >> There was Hassan i Sabbah.... >> >> 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson >> >>> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul >>>>> Alhazred". If only I could dimension hop to the right universe in >>>>> order to hear it! :) >>>> >>>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact >>>> after listening to it! ;) >>> >>> It would totally work, though, no? >>> >>> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- >>> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig the >>> label "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather wish >>> I had. :) ?The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups ... but >>> I totally see a space in which psychedelically tinged doom, underlain >>> by Alan's surging bass lines, could play .... ?Well, in that >>> charmingly alternate universe, anyway! > > ? ? ? ?A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had > something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked with > Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female vocalist > who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next Bedouin album (I > can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty sure this was after > Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it was a *long* time ago) > so as to make music that really lived up to the potential of the name. > It's therefore kind of weird to find him collaborating with Bridget > Wishart again now! That's almost the antithesis of that plan! I'd like > to think that if he'd found the sinder, it would have been the album you > envision, Carl, it could completely have worked, you're right. And Rise > Above would have been a natural home for it; we've often commented here, I > remember, on how strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the > space/stoner divide, which really isn't that big. > > ? ? ? ?Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my usual > message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're actually > facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good with children > anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to indulge that tendency > :-) Good luck, yours, > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Jon > > ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ > -- > ? ? ? Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge ? ?jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ? ?======================================================================= > ?"With Capitalism, man exploits man. ?With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Robert Anton Wilson > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Jan 6 10:00:19 2010 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:00:19 -0600 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001060650l38786161sf0d7b68e686221d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Steve, I can also highly recommend the HPLHS version of Fiddler on the Roof (A Shoggoth on the Roof). It's hysterical. Their radio adventures are pretty good, too. Arin (also a HPL fan. Unsurprisingly.) -------------------------------------------- Arin Komins?????????????????????????????????? akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 tel: (773)834-4087 fax: (773)702-0559 -------------------------------------------- ? : -----Original Message----- : From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Swann : Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM : To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET : Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request : : Lovecraftiana is one of my other great enthusiasms besides : BOC/Hawkwind. ;-) This Holiday season I was listening to the "Scary : Solstice" albums by the awesome and wonderful H.P. Lovecraft : Historical Society: : : http://www.cthulhulives.org/store/store.lasso?1=product&2=122 : : My friends and I have had these albums for a few years now, and some : of us have virtually forgotten the "real" lyrics to a lot of these : carols.... ;-) : : Steve : : : On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mary Sullivan : wrote: : > Jonathan Smith wrote: : >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's : >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept : >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character " : > : > Although I don't agree with Mr. Lovecraft's attitudes toward women : and black : > people I do like a good story, even though after a while the stories : follow : > a similar pattern. ?I'd think one would need to take care in that : alternate : > universe, I wouldn't want to cross paths with that mad Arab he refers : to so : > often. ?A concept album would be really cool. ?Vision Quest is such a : great : > song. : > : > Mary : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On : > Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett : > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:25 PM : > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET : > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request : > : > : > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: : > : >> It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds : >> great. * : >> Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be : true. : >> There was Hassan i Sabbah.... : >> : >> 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson : >> : >>> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: : >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's : >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept : >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul : >>>>> Alhazred". If only I could dimension hop to the right universe in : >>>>> order to hear it! :) : >>>> : >>>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact : >>>> after listening to it! ;) : >>> : >>> It would totally work, though, no? : >>> : >>> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- : >>> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig the : >>> label "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather : wish : >>> I had. :) ?The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups ... : but : >>> I totally see a space in which psychedelically tinged doom, : underlain : >>> by Alan's surging bass lines, could play .... ?Well, in that : >>> charmingly alternate universe, anyway! : > : > ? ? ? ?A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had : > something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked : with : > Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female : vocalist : > who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next Bedouin album : (I : > can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty sure this was : after : > Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it was a *long* time : ago) : > so as to make music that really lived up to the potential of the : name. : > It's therefore kind of weird to find him collaborating with Bridget : > Wishart again now! That's almost the antithesis of that plan! I'd : like : > to think that if he'd found the sinder, it would have been the album : you : > envision, Carl, it could completely have worked, you're right. And : Rise : > Above would have been a natural home for it; we've often commented : here, I : > remember, on how strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the : > space/stoner divide, which really isn't that big. : > : > ? ? ? ?Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my : usual : > message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're actually : > facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good with : children : > anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to indulge that : tendency : > :-) Good luck, yours, : > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Jon : > : > ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ : > -- : > ? ? ? Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge ? ?jjarrett at : chiark.greenend.org.uk : > : ?====================================================================== : = : > ?"With Capitalism, man exploits man. ?With Socialism, it is exactly : > opposite" : > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Robert Anton Wilson : > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jan 6 10:24:03 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:24:03 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001060650l38786161sf0d7b68e686221d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Steve for the link, I'm going to check it out now. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Lovecraftiana is one of my other great enthusiasms besides BOC/Hawkwind. ;-) This Holiday season I was listening to the "Scary Solstice" albums by the awesome and wonderful H.P. Lovecraft Historical Society: http://www.cthulhulives.org/store/store.lasso?1=product&2=122 My friends and I have had these albums for a few years now, and some of us have virtually forgotten the "real" lyrics to a lot of these carols.... ;-) Steve On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mary Sullivan wrote: > Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character " > > Although I don't agree with Mr. Lovecraft's attitudes toward women and > black people I do like a good story, even though after a while the > stories follow a similar pattern. ?I'd think one would need to take > care in that alternate universe, I wouldn't want to cross paths with > that mad Arab he refers to so often. ?A concept album would be really > cool. ?Vision Quest is such a great song. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:25 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds >> great. * >> Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be >> true. There was Hassan i Sabbah.... >> >> 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson >> >>> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul >>>>> Alhazred". If only I could dimension hop to the right universe in >>>>> order to hear it! :) >>>> >>>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact >>>> after listening to it! ;) >>> >>> It would totally work, though, no? >>> >>> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- >>> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig the >>> label "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather >>> wish I had. :) ?The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups >>> ... but I totally see a space in which psychedelically tinged doom, >>> underlain by Alan's surging bass lines, could play .... ?Well, in >>> that charmingly alternate universe, anyway! > > ? ? ? ?A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had > something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked > with Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female > vocalist who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next > Bedouin album (I can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty > sure this was after Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it > was a *long* time ago) so as to make music that really lived up to the > potential of the name. It's therefore kind of weird to find him > collaborating with Bridget Wishart again now! That's almost the > antithesis of that plan! I'd like to think that if he'd found the > sinder, it would have been the album you envision, Carl, it could > completely have worked, you're right. And Rise Above would have been a > natural home for it; we've often commented here, I remember, on how > strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the space/stoner divide, > which really isn't that big. > > ? ? ? ?Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my > usual message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're > actually facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good > with children anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to > indulge that tendency > :-) Good luck, yours, > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Jon > > ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ > -- > ? ? ? Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge ? ?jjarrett at > chiark.greenend.org.uk > ? ?======================================================================= > ?"With Capitalism, man exploits man. ?With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Robert Anton Wilson > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jan 6 10:25:38 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:25:38 -0500 Subject: a cool link Message-ID: Don't know that this got posted, here, I didn't find it, so I'll send this link along for Hawkwind vids. This site looks interesting. If this was already posted here, my apologies for not finding the previous posting. Mary www.myspace.com/kreluminati From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jan 6 12:17:19 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:17:19 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <0DA2892F6ED46743AEFB703E03030E6501C043CDCBB9@EVS03.ad.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: I have that too, plus the "documentary" about their efforts to stage it. ;-) Steve On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Arin Komins wrote: > Steve, > > I can also highly recommend the HPLHS version of Fiddler on the Roof (A Shoggoth on the Roof). ?It's hysterical. > > Their radio adventures are pretty good, too. > > Arin > (also a HPL fan. ?Unsurprisingly.) > -------------------------------------------- > Arin Komins > akomins at uchicago.edu > Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A > 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 > tel: (773)834-4087 > fax: (773)702-0559 > -------------------------------------------- > > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- > : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Swann > : Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM > : To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > : Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > : > : Lovecraftiana is one of my other great enthusiasms besides > : BOC/Hawkwind. ?;-) ?This Holiday season I was listening to the "Scary > : Solstice" albums by the awesome and wonderful H.P. Lovecraft > : Historical Society: > : > : http://www.cthulhulives.org/store/store.lasso?1=product&2=122 > : > : My friends and I have had these albums for a few years now, and some > : of us have virtually forgotten the "real" lyrics to a lot of these > : carols.... ?;-) > : > : Steve > : > : > : On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mary Sullivan > : wrote: > : > Jonathan Smith wrote: > : >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's > : >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept > : >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character " > : > > : > Although I don't agree with Mr. Lovecraft's attitudes toward women > : and black > : > people I do like a good story, even though after a while the stories > : follow > : > a similar pattern. ?I'd think one would need to take care in that > : alternate > : > universe, I wouldn't want to cross paths with that mad Arab he refers > : to so > : > often. ?A concept album would be really cool. ?Vision Quest is such a > : great > : > song. > : > > : > Mary > : > > : > -----Original Message----- > : > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- > : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > : > Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett > : > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:25 PM > : > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > : > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > : > > : > > : > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: > : > > : >> It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds > : >> great. * > : >> Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be > : true. > : >> There was Hassan i Sabbah.... > : >> > : >> 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson > : >> > : >>> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > : >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's > : >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept > : >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul > : >>>>> Alhazred". If only I could dimension hop to the right universe in > : >>>>> order to hear it! :) > : >>>> > : >>>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact > : >>>> after listening to it! ;) > : >>> > : >>> It would totally work, though, no? > : >>> > : >>> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- > : >>> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig the > : >>> label "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather > : wish > : >>> I had. :) ?The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups ... > : but > : >>> I totally see a space in which psychedelically tinged doom, > : underlain > : >>> by Alan's surging bass lines, could play .... ?Well, in that > : >>> charmingly alternate universe, anyway! > : > > : > ? ? ? ?A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had > : > something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked > : with > : > Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female > : vocalist > : > who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next Bedouin album > : (I > : > can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty sure this was > : after > : > Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it was a *long* time > : ago) > : > so as to make music that really lived up to the potential of the > : name. > : > It's therefore kind of weird to find him collaborating with Bridget > : > Wishart again now! That's almost the antithesis of that plan! I'd > : like > : > to think that if he'd found the sinder, it would have been the album > : you > : > envision, Carl, it could completely have worked, you're right. And > : Rise > : > Above would have been a natural home for it; we've often commented > : here, I > : > remember, on how strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the > : > space/stoner divide, which really isn't that big. > : > > : > ? ? ? ?Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my > : usual > : > message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're actually > : > facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good with > : children > : > anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to indulge that > : tendency > : > :-) Good luck, yours, > : > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Jon > : > > : > ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ > : > -- > : > ? ? ? Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge ? ?jjarrett at > : chiark.greenend.org.uk > : > > : ?====================================================================== > : = > : > ?"With Capitalism, man exploits man. ?With Socialism, it is exactly > : > opposite" > : > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Robert Anton Wilson > : > > From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 03:02:56 2010 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:02:56 +0000 Subject: Fw: [sendmorebrains] oh no Message-ID: Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Se?or Borborygmus Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:58:06 To: Subject: [sendmorebrains] oh no http://joinlemmysarmy.com/index.html From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 05:19:33 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 04:19:33 -0600 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <20100105235513.7GUFN.745696.root@web05-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in EVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees print- On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > Regards > > Dave > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 7 06:40:03 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 06:40:03 -0500 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001070219t111c91acrd717e48df5511292@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Why? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:20 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in EVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees print- On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > Regards > > Dave > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 07:11:53 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 20:11:53 +0800 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good interview! 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > Why? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:20 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website > > > I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in EVERY > media outlet regarding the band that sees print- > > On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > > > Regards > > > > Dave > > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 7 07:57:35 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:57:35 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <919e368d0912281422o1be70e22od12407edf333a06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Steve Swann wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM, mike coleman wrote: > I feel like the only thing that the current version of Hawkwind could > use is another mad poet/artist frontman (Calvert, Tree, Rizz, Wishart, > et al). Dave and Dibbs give the poetry readings the old college try, > but they're both too sane. ;-) I know what you mean there all right. Arthur Brown was a good addition but someone of his ability doing this job doesn't really work, he has too much stuff of his own that the gravity of his presence must distort away from Hawkwind material. Wasn't there talk of work with one Robert Morley (obviously not the dead one) way back in the gestation of TMTYL? I wonder what happened to that. Or whether, given his other visible work: http://rushforthmorley.blogspot.com/ that would really have been a good idea... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 08:02:11 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:02:11 -0600 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: why? how many whys are there in the HW "chaos camp" that make no sense except to those very few mad enough to get it?? In your case I suppose I could tailor the idea to say "so you only miss one photo?" yes it was a good interview, complete with Tim fielding questions that in themselves were chaotic despite being well managed.... a long way from "throaty (female sexual part slang-word deleted)" On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Why? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:20 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website > > > I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in EVERY > media outlet regarding the band that sees print- > > On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > > > Regards > > > > Dave > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 08:16:08 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:16:08 -0600 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My concept behind the comment has to do with "racial breadth", and as I have already stated I am bitchslapping the human-race into a more "proper state" with the use of my sword called "truth", and largely with my favorite band HW. I have altered the original concept of doing it with only a turn-table to include the new "shit-hot" dollar-store CD player. What the hell was Alan Davey saying about 70's stuff when he gave us "alien 4".....WOAH>>>>>>>> can you say "MASTERPIECE"?? I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with everything and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit replay??? On 1/7/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Steve Swann wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM, mike coleman >> wrote: >> I feel like the only thing that the current version of Hawkwind could >> use is another mad poet/artist frontman (Calvert, Tree, Rizz, Wishart, >> et al). Dave and Dibbs give the poetry readings the old college try, >> but they're both too sane. ;-) >> > > I know what you mean there all right. Arthur Brown was a good > addition but someone of his ability doing this job doesn't really work, he > has too much stuff of his own that the gravity of his presence must distort > away from Hawkwind material. Wasn't there talk of work with one Robert > Morley (obviously not the dead one) way back in the gestation of TMTYL? I > wonder what happened to that. Or whether, given his other visible work: > http://rushforthmorley.blogspot.com/ > that would really have been a good idea... Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 7 08:18:22 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:18:22 -0500 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001070502oad35824v9d69d26fc0af65ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: how many whys are there in the HW "chaos camp" that make no sense except to those very few mad enough to get it?? Right, I've certainly been mad enough, that isn't the issue. As to your question, I don't think the "Whys," can be counted, no less answered, but that's all right. I do, of course, realize sometimes what is visual means little to me when described. That really was a nice interview. The first time I heard synthesizers, I loved it, probably e.l.p. in the summer of '70. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:02 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website why? how many whys are there in the HW "chaos camp" that make no sense except to those very few mad enough to get it?? In your case I suppose I could tailor the idea to say "so you only miss one photo?" yes it was a good interview, complete with Tim fielding questions that in themselves were chaotic despite being well managed.... a long way from "throaty (female sexual part slang-word deleted)" On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Why? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:20 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website > > > I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in > EVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees print- > > On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > > > Regards > > > > Dave > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 08:26:10 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:26:10 -0600 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <4BA8028545344B5EADAB1BB2FBBA711F@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Mary the photo is old already, been used. try "cottonwoodhill" On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > how many whys are there in the HW "chaos camp" that make no sense except > to > those very few mad enough to get it?? Right, I've certainly been mad > enough, > that isn't the issue. As to your question, I don't think the "Whys," can be > counted, no less answered, but that's all right. I do, of course, realize > sometimes what is visual means little to me when described. That really > was > a nice interview. The first time I heard synthesizers, I loved it, > probably > e.l.p. in the summer of '70. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:02 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website > > > why? how many whys are there in the HW "chaos camp" that make no sense > except to those very few mad enough to get it?? In your case I suppose I > could tailor the idea to say "so you only miss one photo?" yes it was a > good > interview, complete with Tim fielding questions that in themselves were > chaotic despite being well managed.... a long way from "throaty (female > sexual part slang-word deleted)" > > > On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > Why? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of mike coleman > > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:20 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website > > > > > > I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in > > EVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees print- > > > > On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > > > > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 08:26:44 2010 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:26:44 +0000 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <4BA8028545344B5EADAB1BB2FBBA711F@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: The -real- Tim Blake interview is in the next Krankschaft PodCast.. Tim meets our robot.. and it gets steamy.. -S. From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 08:31:20 2010 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:31:20 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Richard Morley, not Robert.? I spoke with him on a couple of occasions when I was working with HW and got the impression that he was "disenchanted". ? Colin --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: From: Jonathan Jarrett Subject: Re: HW observation To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 12:57 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Steve Swann wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM, mike coleman wrote: > I feel like the only thing that the current version of Hawkwind could > use is another mad poet/artist frontman (Calvert, Tree, Rizz, Wishart, > et al).? Dave and Dibbs give the poetry readings the old college try, > but they're both too sane.? ;-) ??? I know what you mean there all right. Arthur Brown was a good addition but someone of his ability doing this job doesn't really work, he has too much stuff of his own that the gravity of his presence must distort away from Hawkwind material. Wasn't there talk of work with one Robert Morley (obviously not the dead one) way back in the gestation of TMTYL? I wonder what happened to that. Or whether, given his other visible work: http://rushforthmorley.blogspot.com/ that would really have been a good idea... Yours, ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? Jon --? ? ???Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge? ? jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ???======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man.? With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???-Robert Anton Wilson From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 08:34:51 2010 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:34:51 +0000 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001070219t111c91acrd717e48df5511292@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A very odd interview, from both sides! ? Simon House signing Hawkwind after the All Saints gig? I always thought it was Doug Smith, but there you go;). Time also seems to give the impression that he was in the band when Stacia was around; odd that! --- On Thu, 7/1/10, mike coleman wrote: From: mike coleman Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 10:19 I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in EVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees print- On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > Regards > > Dave > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 08:37:12 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:37:12 -0600 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <76obk5926eberlshfg28gbu2hk7gdiqru6@4ax.com> Message-ID: Steve please come help me kill these unbelieveable cockroaches (just what are they eating?), bring a chair, teach me the computer basics and we'll go get the finest tex-mex the city has to offer no matter how long I go hungry////// I'm getting very good at at 3 meals? JOKE!!!! more sssss-ss--ssssilicone ship nonsense a kid asked me the other day "why do you have a TV?" I said "doesn't everyone have a TV" and he noted : "yeah, people who actually WATCH it", so I "high-fived" 'em On 1/7/10, Steve Pond wrote: > > The -real- Tim Blake interview is in the next Krankschaft PodCast.. > Tim meets our robot.. and it gets steamy.. > > -S. > From daveb10000 at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Jan 7 08:45:49 2010 From: daveb10000 at NTLWORLD.COM (David Bottomley) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:45:49 -0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, one of the Richard Morley lyrics *did* make it to CD in the end - the splendid "Reality of Poverty" on "Take Me To Your Future"...... Dave -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: 07 January 2010 12:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW observation On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Steve Swann wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM, mike coleman > wrote: I feel like the only thing that the > current version of Hawkwind could use is another mad poet/artist > frontman (Calvert, Tree, Rizz, Wishart, et al). Dave and Dibbs give > the poetry readings the old college try, but they're both too sane. > ;-) I know what you mean there all right. Arthur Brown was a good addition but someone of his ability doing this job doesn't really work, he has too much stuff of his own that the gravity of his presence must distort away from Hawkwind material. Wasn't there talk of work with one Robert Morley (obviously not the dead one) way back in the gestation of TMTYL? I wonder what happened to that. Or whether, given his other visible work: http://rushforthmorley.blogspot.com/ that would really have been a good idea... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.127/2603 - Release Date: 01/06/10 19:35:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.127/2603 - Release Date: 01/06/10 19:35:00 From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 7 08:58:52 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:58:52 -0500 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001070411t570814a5q95e30f024d3e4593@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, Please excuse me for being a bit of a wise cracker, sorry about that. I really did enjoy the interview. My question "Why," was a smart ass response to Mike's posting, "I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used inEVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees print." Mike, I can feel print, but it's all the same. . Thanks, Dave, for the link. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website Good interview! 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > Why? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:20 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website > > > I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in > EVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees print- > > On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > > > Regards > > > > Dave > > > From mysterioso at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 09:01:11 2010 From: mysterioso at GMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:01:11 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001060917j305bb809obcea66e086ceac6d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: There are a few fantastic radio plays of Lovecraft works by the Atlanta Radio Theatre Company/ http://www.artc.org/catalog/hpl.html The Shadow Over Innsmouth and At the Mountains of Madness being two particular favourites of mine. Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. Maybe I shouldn't admit that openly... Chris. 2010/1/6 Steve Swann > I have that too, plus the "documentary" about their efforts to stage it. > ;-) > > Steve > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Arin Komins wrote: > > Steve, > > > > I can also highly recommend the HPLHS version of Fiddler on the Roof (A > Shoggoth on the Roof). It's hysterical. > > > > Their radio adventures are pretty good, too. > > > > Arin > > (also a HPL fan. Unsurprisingly.) > > -------------------------------------------- > > Arin Komins > > akomins at uchicago.edu > > Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture > > University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A > > 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 > > tel: (773)834-4087 > > fax: (773)702-0559 > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > > : -----Original Message----- > > : From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- > > : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Swann > > : Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:50 AM > > : To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > : Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > : > > : Lovecraftiana is one of my other great enthusiasms besides > > : BOC/Hawkwind. ;-) This Holiday season I was listening to the "Scary > > : Solstice" albums by the awesome and wonderful H.P. Lovecraft > > : Historical Society: > > : > > : http://www.cthulhulives.org/store/store.lasso?1=product&2=122 > > : > > : My friends and I have had these albums for a few years now, and some > > : of us have virtually forgotten the "real" lyrics to a lot of these > > : carols.... ;-) > > : > > : Steve > > : > > : > > : On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mary Sullivan > > : wrote: > > : > Jonathan Smith wrote: > > : >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's > > : >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept > > : >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character " > > : > > > : > Although I don't agree with Mr. Lovecraft's attitudes toward women > > : and black > > : > people I do like a good story, even though after a while the stories > > : follow > > : > a similar pattern. I'd think one would need to take care in that > > : alternate > > : > universe, I wouldn't want to cross paths with that mad Arab he refers > > : to so > > : > often. A concept album would be really cool. Vision Quest is such a > > : great > > : > song. > > : > > > : > Mary > > : > > > : > -----Original Message----- > > : > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- > > : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > > : > Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett > > : > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:25 PM > > : > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > : > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > : > > > : > > > : > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > : > > > : >> It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds > > : >> great. * > > : >> Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be > > : true. > > : >> There was Hassan i Sabbah.... > > : >> > > : >> 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson > > : >> > > : >>> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > > : >>>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's > > : >>>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept > > : >>>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul > > : >>>>> Alhazred". If only I could dimension hop to the right universe in > > : >>>>> order to hear it! :) > > : >>>> > > : >>>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact > > : >>>> after listening to it! ;) > > : >>> > > : >>> It would totally work, though, no? > > : >>> > > : >>> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- > > : >>> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig > the > > : >>> label "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather > > : wish > > : >>> I had. :) The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups ... > > : but > > : >>> I totally see a space in which psychedelically tinged doom, > > : underlain > > : >>> by Alan's surging bass lines, could play .... Well, in that > > : >>> charmingly alternate universe, anyway! > > : > > > : > A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had > > : > something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked > > : with > > : > Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female > > : vocalist > > : > who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next Bedouin album > > : (I > > : > can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty sure this was > > : after > > : > Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it was a *long* time > > : ago) > > : > so as to make music that really lived up to the potential of the > > : name. > > : > It's therefore kind of weird to find him collaborating with Bridget > > : > Wishart again now! That's almost the antithesis of that plan! I'd > > : like > > : > to think that if he'd found the sinder, it would have been the album > > : you > > : > envision, Carl, it could completely have worked, you're right. And > > : Rise > > : > Above would have been a natural home for it; we've often commented > > : here, I > > : > remember, on how strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the > > : > space/stoner divide, which really isn't that big. > > : > > > : > Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my > > : usual > > : > message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're actually > > : > facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good with > > : children > > : > anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to indulge that > > : tendency > > : > :-) Good luck, yours, > > : > Jon > > : > > > : > ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ > > : > -- > > : > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at > > : chiark.greenend.org.uk > > : > > > : ====================================================================== > > : = > > : > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > > : > opposite" > > : > -Robert Anton Wilson > > : > > > > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 09:06:50 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 22:06:50 +0800 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mary, I guessed that.. I sort of missed out the 'chaos' -- it was too chaotic for me... 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > Hi Jonathan, > Please excuse me for being a bit of a wise cracker, sorry about that. I > really did enjoy the interview. My question "Why," was a smart ass > response to Mike's posting, "I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo > of > Tim should be used inEVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees > print." > Mike, I can feel print, but it's all the same. > . Thanks, Dave, for the link. > > Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Jonathan Smith > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 7:12 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website > > > Good interview! > > 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > > > Why? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of mike coleman > > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:20 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website > > > > > > I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo of Tim should be used in > > EVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees print- > > > > On 1/5/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.roland.co.uk/articles/default.aspx?c=157&a=10574 > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 09:24:04 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:24:04 -0600 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > (snip) My question "Why," was a smart ass > response to Mike's posting, "I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo > of > Tim should be used inEVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees > print." > Mike, I can feel print, but it's all the same But your reader reads it. just not the photo so how could you not have been blind as a bat, and geniuenly asking why?? say, anybody take a chance on Adrian Wagner's "Disco Dream" CD??? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 09:27:44 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 08:27:44 -0600 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001070624l6d654863j941e23d741a7079f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: oh i get it, well for the chaos I mentioned. In the case of the blind-folk media, those should have never-before seen archival snapshots from Dave's personal collection. On 1/7/10, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: >> >> (snip) My question "Why," was a smart ass >> response to Mike's posting, "I think in keeping with HW chaos, this photo >> of >> Tim should be used inEVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees >> print." >> Mike, I can feel print, but it's all the same > > > But your reader reads it. just not the photo so how could you not have been > blind as a bat, and geniuenly asking why?? > say, anybody take a chance on Adrian Wagner's "Disco Dream" CD??? > > > > > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 09:40:36 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 22:40:36 +0800 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001070627l26f10v5038d6b9547008e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "....say, anybody take a chance on Adrian Wagner's "Disco Dream" CD???" Yes. 2010/1/7 mike coleman > oh i get it, well for the chaos I mentioned. In the case of the blind-folk > media, those should have never-before seen archival snapshots from Dave's > personal collection. > > On 1/7/10, mike coleman wrote: > > > > > > On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: > >> > >> (snip) My question "Why," was a smart ass > >> response to Mike's posting, "I think in keeping with HW chaos, this > photo > >> of > >> Tim should be used inEVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees > >> print." > >> Mike, I can feel print, but it's all the same > > > > > > But your reader reads it. just not the photo so how could you not have > been > > blind as a bat, and geniuenly asking why?? > > say, anybody take a chance on Adrian Wagner's "Disco Dream" CD??? > > > > > > > > > > > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jan 7 09:42:41 2010 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:42:41 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <7e287e6d1001070601t397e83f1ud591ea428be1a2a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. Maybe I > shouldn't admit that openly... Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. Cheers, Paul. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 7 10:06:21 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:06:21 -0500 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001070640m3b0ab370qdb9c7cef37edab53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "n the case of the blind-folk media, those should have never-before seen archival snapshots from Dave's personal collection." Mike, Those snapshots are something. I can't talk about those, I've been sworn to secrecy. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:41 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website "....say, anybody take a chance on Adrian Wagner's "Disco Dream" CD???" Yes. 2010/1/7 mike coleman > oh i get it, well for the chaos I mentioned. In the case of the > blind-folk media, those should have never-before seen archival > snapshots from Dave's personal collection. > > On 1/7/10, mike coleman wrote: > > > > > > On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: > >> > >> (snip) My question "Why," was a smart ass > >> response to Mike's posting, "I think in keeping with HW chaos, this > photo > >> of > >> Tim should be used inEVERY media outlet regarding the band that > >> sees print." Mike, I can feel print, but it's all the same > > > > > > But your reader reads it. just not the photo so how could you not have > been > > blind as a bat, and geniuenly asking why?? > > say, anybody take a chance on Adrian Wagner's "Disco Dream" CD??? > > > > > > > > > > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 10:26:52 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:26:52 -0000 Subject: The Lost Battle between Democracy and Capitalism Message-ID: Latest song by ICU's Judge Trev http://www.facebook.com//video/video.php?comments=&v=250333294602#/video/video.php?v=249769319602&subj=535819602 Performed by Trev and Kev Featured on their latest album "Live at the Cosmic Puffin" Join the Revolution - Get it here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#cosmic-puffin ?7.99 + p&p Discover the Green Music Festivals REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jan 7 10:29:10 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:29:10 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <81DD8A82-E94D-4579-AFCB-4DC21BC40D24@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. I remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me to get a copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, after a while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of Lord Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories were influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. Maybe > I shouldn't admit that openly... Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. Cheers, Paul. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 12:05:57 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:05:57 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind songwriters latest revolutionary hit...a "must buy" for the politically correct In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Latest song by ICU's Judge Trev > http://www.facebook.com//video/video.php?comments=&v=249769319602 > > Performed by Trev and Kev > > Featured on their latest album "Live at the Cosmic Puffin" > > Join the Revolution - Get it here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#cosmic-puffin > > ?7.99 + p&p > > > Discover the Green Music Festivals > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 12:17:07 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:17:07 -0600 Subject: Tim Blake interview on the Roland website In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001070640m3b0ab370qdb9c7cef37edab53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: well can I sling it out along with mother gong "dancing at the disco at the end of the world"? I try to be careful what goes out the window..... On 1/7/10, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > "....say, anybody take a chance on Adrian Wagner's "Disco Dream" CD???" > > Yes. > > 2010/1/7 mike coleman > > > oh i get it, well for the chaos I mentioned. In the case of the > blind-folk > > media, those should have never-before seen archival snapshots from Dave's > > personal collection. > > > > On 1/7/10, mike coleman wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 1/7/10, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > >> > > >> (snip) My question "Why," was a smart ass > > >> response to Mike's posting, "I think in keeping with HW chaos, this > > photo > > >> of > > >> Tim should be used inEVERY media outlet regarding the band that sees > > >> print." > > >> Mike, I can feel print, but it's all the same > > > > > > > > > But your reader reads it. just not the photo so how could you not have > > been > > > blind as a bat, and geniuenly asking why?? > > > say, anybody take a chance on Adrian Wagner's "Disco Dream" CD??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 18:57:46 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 07:57:46 +0800 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <290388289E4149B887B291FFAA18BACE@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than Lovecraft, not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote some amazing stories however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was extremely influential to the fanatasy/ horror genre. I have never managed to relate to the band... 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. I > remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me to get > a > copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, after a > while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of Lord > Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories were > influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > > > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. Maybe > > I shouldn't admit that openly... > > Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 7 22:45:10 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 22:45:10 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <7e287e6d1001070601t397e83f1ud591ea428be1a2a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > There are a few fantastic radio plays of Lovecraft works by the Atlanta > Radio Theatre Company/ > http://www.artc.org/catalog/hpl.html > > The Shadow Over Innsmouth and At the > Mountains of Madness being two particular favourites of mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQkos7WTHjg Steve From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 8 04:32:31 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 04:32:31 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001071945y662dc589w2d8cbb11bc77490b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Steve, I've been looking for recorded Lovecraft stories. Thanks, so much. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:45 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > There are a few fantastic radio plays of Lovecraft works by the > Atlanta Radio Theatre Company/ http://www.artc.org/catalog/hpl.html > > The Shadow Over Innsmouth and At > the Mountains of Madness being two particular favourites of mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQkos7WTHjg Steve From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 8 07:24:26 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 07:24:26 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001071557p74b94629nbc36102e9817d6d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Jonathan for your feedback, I agree Lovecraft wrote some fantastic stories, I also understand he had his prejudices. I live only an hour away from Providence. I guess there are some real fanatics there that have rituals at his grave and all. Now that it's not scary night, maybe I'll try that link for a listen to a play. That sounds like a lot of fun. I'm going to miss having this computer when it goes in for a check up. I'm sure it needs to be defragged, debugged, and all sorts of things. Hopefully the turn around time won't be too long. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 6:58 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than Lovecraft, not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote some amazing stories however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was extremely influential to the fanatasy/ horror genre. I have never managed to relate to the band... 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. > I remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me > to get a copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well > told, after a while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the > influence of Lord Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can > tell which stories were influenced by him, they're a totally different > style, more dreamy. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > > > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. > > Maybe I shouldn't admit that openly... > > Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 8 07:43:30 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 07:43:30 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001071945y662dc589w2d8cbb11bc77490b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think Mountains Of Madness works better as a play, when I heard the sample I realized I heard that many years ago, and thought it to be a brilliant adaptation, it really brings the story to life. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:45 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > There are a few fantastic radio plays of Lovecraft works by the > Atlanta Radio Theatre Company/ http://www.artc.org/catalog/hpl.html > > The Shadow Over Innsmouth and At > the Mountains of Madness being two particular favourites of mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQkos7WTHjg Steve From mysterioso at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 09:03:57 2010 From: mysterioso at GMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:03:57 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <290388289E4149B887B291FFAA18BACE@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: The was one Lovecraft story which featured his journey in sleep to mountain-tops (I think there may have been a temple on a plateau) and chasms (winged beasts on the way, possibly), but I cannot remember for the life of me what it was called. Does that description ring a bell with anyone? It may have featured cats, also, but I may be conflating it with another story, possibly by Poe. 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. I > remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me to get > a > copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, after a > while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of Lord > Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories were > influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > > > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. Maybe > > I shouldn't admit that openly... > > Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > From mysterioso at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 09:04:56 2010 From: mysterioso at GMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:04:56 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <81DD8A82-E94D-4579-AFCB-4DC21BC40D24@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: I feel slightly better now. I found a small amount of their live stuff and I think it's brilliant. Hokey, exuberant and wholly of its time - brilliant. 2010/1/7 Paul Mather > > Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Jan 8 09:17:00 2010 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 08:17:00 -0600 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <7e287e6d1001080603v7eaa8131p7cb8d90536298b30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dreamquest of Unknown Kadath, per chance? Arin -------------------------------------------- Arin Komins?????????????????????????????????? akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 tel: (773)834-4087 fax: (773)702-0559 -------------------------------------------- ? : -----Original Message----- : From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Chris Allen : Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:04 AM : To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET : Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request : : The was one Lovecraft story which featured his journey in sleep to : mountain-tops (I think there may have been a temple on a plateau) and : chasms : (winged beasts on the way, possibly), but I cannot remember for the : life of : me what it was called. Does that description ring a bell with anyone? : It may have featured cats, also, but I may be conflating it with : another : story, possibly by Poe. : : : 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan : : > I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. : I : > remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me : to get : > a : > copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, : after a : > while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of : Lord : > Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which : stories were : > influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. : > : > Mary : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] : > On : > Behalf Of Paul Mather : > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM : > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET : > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request : > : > : > On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: : > : > > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. : Maybe : > > I shouldn't admit that openly... : > : > Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. : > : > Cheers, : > : > Paul. : > From john.majka at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 09:30:17 2010 From: john.majka at GMAIL.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:30:17 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Message-ID: Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is true that earlier on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to be racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many letters showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of a Lovecraft novel.... John Majka > Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than Lovecraft, > not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote some amazing > stories > however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was extremely influential to the > fanatasy/ horror genre. > > I have never managed to relate to the band... > > 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > >> I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. I >> remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me to >> get >> a >> copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, after a >> while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of >> Lord >> Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories >> were >> influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Paul Mather >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: >> >> > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. Maybe >> > I shouldn't admit that openly... >> >> Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul. >> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 8 10:52:28 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 10:52:28 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: John, I didn't mean to come off as negative about Lovecraft yesterday, especially since I'll read anything of his I can find. When I stated Lovecraft became a parody of himself, what I meant was he could blatantly copy his own style in "The Unnamable." I'm nearly positive that's the right story, it's when a skeptic and a character who's into the occult (Lovecraft, I think), are waiting for something to happen, and it does. I'm glad his attitude evolved with respect to racism, and I believe if he'd lived longer he may have perceived the role of women in horror with a more enlightened perspective. It comes down to the Spirit Of The Age. You really help put things into perspective. Cheers, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is true that earlier on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to be racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many letters showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of a Lovecraft novel.... John Majka > Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than > Lovecraft, not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote some > amazing stories however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was > extremely influential to the fanatasy/ horror genre. > > I have never managed to relate to the band... > > 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > >> I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. >> I remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me >> to get a >> copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, after a >> while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of >> Lord >> Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories >> were >> influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Paul Mather >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: >> >> > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. >> > Maybe I shouldn't admit that openly... >> >> Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul. >> > From john.majka at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 11:51:46 2010 From: john.majka at GMAIL.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:51:46 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Message-ID: No offense taken, Madame Quantum. I'd agree that there are certain aspects to his writing which appear in multiple stories, but I'd also argue that this is due to the milieu in which he was writing. These were stories published here and there (mainly in Weird Tales) over a period of years, and were never originally intended (or expected) to be read consecutively, so each story will tend to almost have a synopsis-like quality about it. If you notice his habitual mentioning of the gambrel-rooved New England homes, this would certainly be one characteristic, as he tries to set the atmosphere anew in each tale. If he had lived long enough to collate his stories into a book, or even write a sequence of stories with the intention of putting them in book form, I suspect he would have done some editing and adjustment so there would be little or no restatement of ideas between them. It's remarkable how much Lovecraft has been ripped off without acknowledgement over the decades, such that his writing has simply become part of the cultural knowledge base. There are instances like the hijacking of the word "Arkham" by the Batman people and so forth. John Majka >John, I didn't mean to come off as negative about Lovecraft yesterday, especially since I'll read anything of his I can find. When I stated Lovecraft became a parody of himself, what I meant was he could blatantly copy his own style in "The Unnamable." I'm nearly positive that's the right story, it's when a skeptic and a character who's into the occult (Lovecraft, I think), are waiting for something to happen, and it does. I'm glad his attitude evolved with respect to racism, and I believe if he'd lived longer he may have perceived the role of women in horror with a more enlightened perspective. It comes down to the Spirit Of The Age. You really help put things into perspective. Cheers, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is true that earlier on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to be racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many letters showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of a Lovecraft novel.... John Majka > Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than > Lovecraft, not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote some > amazing stories however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was > extremely influential to the fanatasy/ horror genre. > > I have never managed to relate to the band... > > 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > >> I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. >> I remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me >> to get a >> copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, after a >> while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of >> Lord >> Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories >> were >> influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Paul Mather >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: >> >> > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. >> > Maybe I shouldn't admit that openly... >> >> Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul. >> > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Jan 8 12:01:30 2010 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:01:30 -0600 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <4E08CECDAC2F4BF88480FECA42020582@MAJKA> Message-ID: John, I'm not sure I'd agree with your term "hijacking". Lovecraft had his mythos open to the world for them to play in, and indeed, there are items that are part of the Mythos that Lovecraft himself took from other writers. Frank Belknap Long's Hounds of Tindalos, Ambrose Bierce's Hastur, August Derleth's Tcho-Tcho, etc. I think Lovecraft would be pleased by how endemic his work has become. Arin -------------------------------------------- Arin Komins?????????????????????????????????? akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 tel: (773)834-4087 fax: (773)702-0559 -------------------------------------------- ? : -----Original Message----- : From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka : Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:52 AM : To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET : Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request : : No offense taken, Madame Quantum. I'd agree that there are certain : aspects : to his writing which appear in multiple stories, but I'd also argue : that : this is due to the milieu in which he was writing. These were stories : published here and there (mainly in Weird Tales) over a period of : years, and : were never originally intended (or expected) to be read consecutively, : so : each story will tend to almost have a synopsis-like quality about it. : If : you notice his habitual mentioning of the gambrel-rooved New England : homes, : this would certainly be one characteristic, as he tries to set the : atmosphere anew in each tale. If he had lived long enough to collate : his : stories into a book, or even write a sequence of stories with the : intention : of putting them in book form, I suspect he would have done some editing : and : adjustment so there would be little or no restatement of ideas between : them. : It's remarkable how much Lovecraft has been ripped off without : acknowledgement over the decades, such that his writing has simply : become : part of the cultural knowledge base. There are instances like the : hijacking : of the word "Arkham" by the Batman people and so forth. : John Majka : : : : >John, : I didn't mean to come off as negative about Lovecraft yesterday, : especially : since I'll read anything of his I can find. When I stated Lovecraft : became : a parody of himself, what I meant was he could blatantly copy his own : style : in "The Unnamable." I'm nearly positive that's the right story, it's : when a : skeptic and a character who's into the occult (Lovecraft, I think), are : waiting for something to happen, and it does. I'm glad his attitude : evolved : with respect to racism, and I believe if he'd lived longer he may have : perceived the role of women in horror with a more enlightened : perspective. : It comes down to the Spirit Of The Age. You really help put things into : perspective. : : Cheers, : : Mary : : -----Original Message----- : From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On : Behalf Of John Majka : Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM : To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET : Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request : : : Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course of his life : shows : the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is true that : earlier : on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) : to be : : racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many : letters : : showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have : thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and : his : views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an : incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that : cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was : published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on : to : even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness : of a : Lovecraft novel.... : John Majka : : > Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than : > Lovecraft, not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote : some : > amazing stories however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was : > extremely influential to the fanatasy/ horror genre. : > : > I have never managed to relate to the band... : > : > 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan : > : >> I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. : >> I remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for : me : >> to get a : >> copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, : after a : >> while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence : of : >> Lord : >> Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which : stories : >> were : >> influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. : >> : >> Mary : >> : >> -----Original Message----- : >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List : >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] : >> On : >> Behalf Of Paul Mather : >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM : >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET : >> Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request : >> : >> : >> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: : >> : >> > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. : >> > Maybe I shouldn't admit that openly... : >> : >> Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. : >> : >> Cheers, : >> : >> Paul. : >> : > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 8 12:33:17 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:33:17 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <4E08CECDAC2F4BF88480FECA42020582@MAJKA> Message-ID: Hi John, Nice to be remembered by the name Alan dubbed me with. Thanks, again for your well thought out perspective, it all makes more sense now. A novel would have been incredible. I didn't care for the film adaptations of Lovecraft's work. I did think that Night Gallery did a good job with Cool Air, but I only watched it once, and that was probably 30 years ago, actually more, now that's really scary. As everyone here knows, I always enjoy a good story. Your friend, from way back, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request No offense taken, Madame Quantum. I'd agree that there are certain aspects to his writing which appear in multiple stories, but I'd also argue that this is due to the milieu in which he was writing. These were stories published here and there (mainly in Weird Tales) over a period of years, and were never originally intended (or expected) to be read consecutively, so each story will tend to almost have a synopsis-like quality about it. If you notice his habitual mentioning of the gambrel-rooved New England homes, this would certainly be one characteristic, as he tries to set the atmosphere anew in each tale. If he had lived long enough to collate his stories into a book, or even write a sequence of stories with the intention of putting them in book form, I suspect he would have done some editing and adjustment so there would be little or no restatement of ideas between them. It's remarkable how much Lovecraft has been ripped off without acknowledgement over the decades, such that his writing has simply become part of the cultural knowledge base. There are instances like the hijacking of the word "Arkham" by the Batman people and so forth. John Majka >John, I didn't mean to come off as negative about Lovecraft yesterday, especially since I'll read anything of his I can find. When I stated Lovecraft became a parody of himself, what I meant was he could blatantly copy his own style in "The Unnamable." I'm nearly positive that's the right story, it's when a skeptic and a character who's into the occult (Lovecraft, I think), are waiting for something to happen, and it does. I'm glad his attitude evolved with respect to racism, and I believe if he'd lived longer he may have perceived the role of women in horror with a more enlightened perspective. It comes down to the Spirit Of The Age. You really help put things into perspective. Cheers, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is true that earlier on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to be racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many letters showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of a Lovecraft novel.... John Majka > Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than > Lovecraft, not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote some > amazing stories however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was > extremely influential to the fanatasy/ horror genre. > > I have never managed to relate to the band... > > 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > >> I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. >> I remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me >> to get a copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well >> told, after a while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked >> the influence of Lord >> Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories >> were >> influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Paul Mather >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: >> >> > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. >> > Maybe I shouldn't admit that openly... >> >> Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul. >> > From mysterioso at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 09:03:57 2010 From: mysterioso at GMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:03:57 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <290388289E4149B887B291FFAA18BACE@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: The was one Lovecraft story which featured his journey in sleep to mountain-tops (I think there may have been a temple on a plateau) and chasms (winged beasts on the way, possibly), but I cannot remember for the life of me what it was called. Does that description ring a bell with anyone? It may have featured cats, also, but I may be conflating it with another story, possibly by Poe. 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. I > remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me to get > a > copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, after a > while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of Lord > Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories were > influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > > > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. Maybe > > I shouldn't admit that openly... > > Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. From john.majka at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 09:30:17 2010 From: john.majka at GMAIL.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:30:17 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Message-ID: Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is true that earlier on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to be racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many letters showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of a Lovecraft novel.... John Majka > Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than Lovecraft, > not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote some amazing > stories > however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was extremely influential to the > fanatasy/ horror genre. > > I have never managed to relate to the band... > > 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > >> I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. I >> remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me to >> get >> a >> copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, after a >> while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of >> Lord >> Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories >> were >> influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Paul Mather >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: >> >> > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. Maybe >> > I shouldn't admit that openly... >> >> Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul. >> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 14:09:45 2010 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:09:45 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <3B7A0A0669C0410DA1F0D769503C198B@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Reading this thread prompted a check to assure this was still online somewhere. And it is! Random H.P. Lovecraft Story Generator: http://www.darkicon.com/lovecraft.htm On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mary Sullivan wrote: > Jonathan Smith wrote: > >>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's > >>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept > >>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character " > > Although I don't agree with Mr. Lovecraft's attitudes toward women and > black > people I do like a good story, even though after a while the stories follow > a similar pattern. I'd think one would need to take care in that alternate > universe, I wouldn't want to cross paths with that mad Arab he refers to so > often. A concept album would be really cool. Vision Quest is such a great > song. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:25 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds > > great. * > > Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be true. > > There was Hassan i Sabbah.... > > > > 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson > > > >> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > >>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's > >>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept > >>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul > >>>> Alhazred". If only I could dimension hop to the right universe in > >>>> order to hear it! :) > >>> > >>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact > >>> after listening to it! ;) > >> > >> It would totally work, though, no? > >> > >> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- > >> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig the > >> label "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather wish > >> I had. :) The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups ... but > >> I totally see a space in which psychedelically tinged doom, underlain > >> by Alan's surging bass lines, could play .... Well, in that > >> charmingly alternate universe, anyway! > > A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had > something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked with > Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female vocalist > who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next Bedouin album (I > can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty sure this was after > Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it was a *long* time ago) > so as to make music that really lived up to the potential of the name. > It's therefore kind of weird to find him collaborating with Bridget > Wishart again now! That's almost the antithesis of that plan! I'd like > to think that if he'd found the sinder, it would have been the album you > envision, Carl, it could completely have worked, you're right. And Rise > Above would have been a natural home for it; we've often commented here, I > remember, on how strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the > space/stoner divide, which really isn't that big. > > Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my usual > message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're actually > facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good with children > anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to indulge that tendency > :-) Good luck, yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jan 8 14:20:10 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:20:10 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, Owen, I'll check it out. I hope you're well. Let's see about hooking up. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Owen O'Neill Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Reading this thread prompted a check to assure this was still online somewhere. And it is! Random H.P. Lovecraft Story Generator: http://www.darkicon.com/lovecraft.htm On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Mary Sullivan wrote: > Jonathan Smith wrote: > >>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's > >>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept > >>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character " > > Although I don't agree with Mr. Lovecraft's attitudes toward women and > black people I do like a good story, even though after a while the > stories follow a similar pattern. I'd think one would need to take > care in that alternate universe, I wouldn't want to cross paths with > that mad Arab he refers to so often. A concept album would be really > cool. Vision Quest is such a great song. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:25 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > > It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds > > great. * > > Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be > > true. There was Hassan i Sabbah.... > > > > 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson > > > >> On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > >>>> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate universe -- Alan's > >>>> Bedouin has recently produced a fine "Arabic space doom" concept > >>>> album for Rise Above based around Lovecraft's character "Abdul > >>>> Alhazred". If only I could dimension hop to the right universe in > >>>> order to hear it! :) > >>> > >>> I'd love to hear that! Not that anyone's sanity would be intact > >>> after listening to it! ;) > >> > >> It would totally work, though, no? > >> > >> There's a list on MySpace of "oriental/arabic metal" groups -- > >> http://groups.myspace.com/orientalmetal -- though I kind of dig the > >> label "bellymetal", which I hadn't encountered before but rather > >> wish I had. :) The genre seems heavy on death/black metal groups > >> ... but I totally see a space in which psychedelically tinged doom, > >> underlain by Alan's surging bass lines, could play .... Well, in > >> that charmingly alternate universe, anyway! > > A long time ago when Bedouin were still touring and I had > something to do with putting them on in Cambridge, I actually talked > with Alan about something similar to this; he wanted to find a female > vocalist who could do genuine Arabian-style singing for the next > Bedouin album (I can't remember if there was even one then, I'm pretty > sure this was after Sean Masset left but I'm not even sure of that, it > was a *long* time ago) so as to make music that really lived up to the > potential of the name. It's therefore kind of weird to find him > collaborating with Bridget Wishart again now! That's almost the > antithesis of that plan! I'd like to think that if he'd found the > sinder, it would have been the album you envision, Carl, it could > completely have worked, you're right. And Rise Above would have been a > natural home for it; we've often commented here, I remember, on how > strange it was that Bedouin never crossed the space/stoner divide, > which really isn't that big. > > Also, congratulations on parenthood, since I'm running in my > usual message timewarp here. It's easier than it seems when you're > actually facing it, you will soon find out. But you were always good > with children anyway so really this is just an excellent excuse to > indulge that tendency > :-) Good luck, yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Clutch - _Elephant Riders_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From john.majka at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 23:16:04 2010 From: john.majka at GMAIL.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:16:04 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Lovecraft Quest Message-ID: Thanks to you (and Mike) for remembering me from ages ago when we used to chit chat and send merchandise. I'd agree with you that most of the Lovecraft movie adaptations have been dreadful. The recent 1920's styled Call of Cthulhu and Cool Air were actually pretty good, though, I'd say. John Majka >Hi John, Nice to be remembered by the name Alan dubbed me with. Thanks, again for your well thought out perspective, it all makes more sense now. A novel would have been incredible. I didn't care for the film adaptations of Lovecraft's work. I did think that Night Gallery did a good job with Cool Air, but I only watched it once, and that was probably 30 years ago, actually more, now that's really scary. As everyone here knows, I always enjoy a good story. Your friend, from way back, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request No offense taken, Madame Quantum. I'd agree that there are certain aspects to his writing which appear in multiple stories, but I'd also argue that this is due to the milieu in which he was writing. These were stories published here and there (mainly in Weird Tales) over a period of years, and were never originally intended (or expected) to be read consecutively, so each story will tend to almost have a synopsis-like quality about it. If you notice his habitual mentioning of the gambrel-rooved New England homes, this would certainly be one characteristic, as he tries to set the atmosphere anew in each tale. If he had lived long enough to collate his stories into a book, or even write a sequence of stories with the intention of putting them in book form, I suspect he would have done some editing and adjustment so there would be little or no restatement of ideas between them. It's remarkable how much Lovecraft has been ripped off without acknowledgement over the decades, such that his writing has simply become part of the cultural knowledge base. There are instances like the hijacking of the word "Arkham" by the Batman people and so forth. John Majka >John, I didn't mean to come off as negative about Lovecraft yesterday, especially since I'll read anything of his I can find. When I stated Lovecraft became a parody of himself, what I meant was he could blatantly copy his own style in "The Unnamable." I'm nearly positive that's the right story, it's when a skeptic and a character who's into the occult (Lovecraft, I think), are waiting for something to happen, and it does. I'm glad his attitude evolved with respect to racism, and I believe if he'd lived longer he may have perceived the role of women in horror with a more enlightened perspective. It comes down to the Spirit Of The Age. You really help put things into perspective. Cheers, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is true that earlier on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to be racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many letters showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of a Lovecraft novel.... John Majka > Re: Lord Dunsany. He was much lass dark and more literary than > Lovecraft, not to mention less openly zenophobic. Lovecraft wrote some > amazing stories however. Love the Cthuhlu Mythos idea. He was > extremely influential to the fanatasy/ horror genre. > > I have never managed to relate to the band... > > 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > >> I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. >> I remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me >> to get a copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well >> told, after a while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked >> the influence of Lord >> Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which stories >> were >> influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Paul Mather >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request >> >> >> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: >> >> > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. >> > Maybe I shouldn't admit that openly... >> >> Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul. >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Jan 9 10:23:00 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:23:00 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <5FDA5BB05B2C40229D124809360D6371@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: On 08 Jan 2010, at 07:24 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > I agree Lovecraft wrote some fantastic > stories, I also understand he had his prejudices. I wouldn't say that I _ignore_ the prejudices evidenced in the works of people like Lovecraft and Howard, but I try to remember that they are products of their time and culture -- which, despite the closeness to my own, _isn't_ the same! After all, I am accustomed to reading works by much older authors, some of whom came from cultures in which slavery was normal and human sacrifice not unknown (and heaven knows whatever other everyday things for them would seem shocking to us), and I need to see their works as products of a particular time and place as well. (It's easier with them, since there's more distance, but really it's the same issue.) Heck, I wouldn't necessarily condone all the thing some of my favorite musicians have done over the years -- but I'm listening to their music, not issuing a general approval of everything they did or said as an individual! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Jan 9 22:36:21 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 22:36:21 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JANUARY 10, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOW I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #231). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #231) Omnia Opera - "Big Brother" (from yet to be released album) Osiris the Rebirth - "Siren" (from Remnants of Life) Empty Space Orchestra - "Battle Cruizer" (from yet to be released new album) Empty Space Orchestra - "Brocken Spectre" (from yet to be released new album) Charles Rice Goff III & Michael F. LaGrega - "Funf" (from Innerhalb) Uran - "Diagnos" (from Uran) Uran - "EMP" (from Uran) Astro Al - "Liquidating Lemonade Stand" (from Naughty Kitty) BIOnight - "Golden Desert" (from Resonance Of The Spirit) Nick Riff - "Photon Shift" (from Photon Shift) The Shi-ites - "Spatial" (from Godspunk Volume Eight) The Taurus Board - "In Der Teestube" (from Godspunk Volume Eight) Howl in the Typewriter - (The whole of the cosmos..." (from Godspunk Volume Eight) Electric Orange - "Chorg (Cpt. Gyrok's)" (From Krautrock From Hell) Phased - "Nachspiel Revisited I & II" (from A Sort Of Spasmic Phlegm Induced By Leaden Fumes Of Pleasure) Arthur Loves Plastic - "Love This Feeling" (from Give It) Via Sinistrae - "The Mermaid of Eisinore" (from Lehadbik) The Flying Eyes - "Don't Point Your God At Me" (from The Flying Eyes) Baby Grandmothers - "Somebody Keeps Calling Me" (from Baby Grandmothers) http://Aural-Innovations.com From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 10 02:42:32 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:42:32 +0800 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree that we should try to ignore (but note) Lovecraft's prejudices. As in the case of Aleister Crowley, who seemed to have abysmal ideas of about people of other races (although in in case his contempt seemed to equally to white races too and he had a very weird sense of humour), it was a product of is time (even Ezrra Pound degenerated into a stupid antisemitism). As for Howard, he was mentally unstable and killed himself when his mother died. The Cthulu Mythos was open to all - Derleth, Carter etc) all contributed. Lovecraft was great author but he worked for pulp magazines and that showed. I'd love to see some noern musical intepretations of his work. *'Phnglui mglw nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah nagl fhtagn'* 2010/1/9 Carl Edlund Anderson > On 08 Jan 2010, at 07:24 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I agree Lovecraft wrote some fantastic > > stories, I also understand he had his prejudices. > > > I wouldn't say that I _ignore_ the prejudices evidenced in the works of > people like Lovecraft and Howard, but I try to remember that they are > products of their time and culture -- which, despite the closeness to my > own, _isn't_ the same! After all, I am accustomed to reading works by much > older authors, some of whom came from cultures in which slavery was normal > and human sacrifice not unknown (and heaven knows whatever other everyday > things for them would seem shocking to us), and I need to see their works as > products of a particular time and place as well. (It's easier with them, > since there's more distance, but really it's the same issue.) > > Heck, I wouldn't necessarily condone all the thing some of my favorite > musicians have done over the years -- but I'm listening to their music, not > issuing a general approval of everything they did or said as an individual! > :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 10 15:10:29 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:10:29 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Also, as someone else mentioned, he was a thinking person who in later life appears (based on his voluminous body of correspondence) to have reconsidered and recanted his earlier racist views... Steve On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 08 Jan 2010, at 07:24 , Mary Sullivan wrote: >> I agree Lovecraft wrote some fantastic >> stories, I also understand he had his ?prejudices. > > > I wouldn't say that I _ignore_ the prejudices evidenced in the works of people like Lovecraft and Howard, but I try to remember that they are products of their time and culture -- which, despite the closeness to my own, _isn't_ the same! ?After all, I am accustomed to reading works by much older authors, some of whom came from cultures in which slavery was normal and human sacrifice not unknown (and heaven knows whatever other everyday things for them would seem shocking to us), and I need to see their works as products of a particular time and place as well. ?(It's easier with them, since there's more distance, but really it's the same issue.) > > Heck, I wouldn't necessarily condone all the thing some of my favorite musicians have done over the years -- but I'm listening to their music, not issuing a general approval of everything they did or said as an individual! :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jan 10 16:56:37 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:56:37 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001101210q16239ea4q40b2456f75e29a74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: John Majka wrote, "Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is true that earlier on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to be racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many letters showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of a Lovecraft novel...." Wrote, "A sign of an intelligent person is one who can grow beyond their earlier work, and admit they were in err. I respect a person that's honest enough to do that. Mary P.S. I'd read in a collection of Lovecraft stories that he died from Rickets? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:10 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Also, as someone else mentioned, he was a thinking person who in later life appears (based on his voluminous body of correspondence) to have reconsidered and recanted his earlier racist views... Steve On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 08 Jan 2010, at 07:24 , Mary Sullivan wrote: >> I agree Lovecraft wrote some fantastic >> stories, I also understand he had his ?prejudices. > > > I wouldn't say that I _ignore_ the prejudices evidenced in the works > of people like Lovecraft and Howard, but I try to remember that they > are products of their time and culture -- which, despite the closeness > to my own, _isn't_ the same! ?After all, I am accustomed to reading > works by much older authors, some of whom came from cultures in which > slavery was normal and human sacrifice not unknown (and heaven knows > whatever other everyday things for them would seem shocking to us), > and I need to see their works as products of a particular time and > place as well. ?(It's easier with them, since there's more distance, > but really it's the same issue.) > > Heck, I wouldn't necessarily condone all the thing some of my favorite > musicians have done over the years -- but I'm listening to their > music, not issuing a general approval of everything they did or said > as an individual! :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jan 10 17:33:11 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:33:11 -0500 Subject: Captain Deli's offers Message-ID: A few Hawkwind shows have been posted by Captain Deli and he wants them to be available to all who want them. The show he refers to as being the first is Wolverhampton 2009 and it is amazing. Here's his email, so you can get the info from him first hand. Even I managed the download, with some guidance from C. D. This will be a regular thing, so if he doesn't join, I'll keep you informed, I asked him if he wanted me to let everyone on this forum about the goodies, so everything's cool. Enjoy, Mary You can try to get access to it through this Rapidshare search engine:- http://www.rapidsharedata.com/ and search for 'Hawkwind' - it comes up top, followed by the 2 I intend to offer the forum later in the week - Ramsgate 84 & Newcastle 01 - both cool by the way! There's also Kinetic Playground 71 & Glasgow 80 on this site, the site gets busy, so early morning, u.k. or late night here in the states is best for free users, from my experience. From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 10 19:03:56 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:03:56 +0800 Subject: Captain Deli's offers In-Reply-To: <7BF758AA501446CAB9FDBCBB50AECCC8@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: > > This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's > Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times. This limit is reached. To download this file, the uploader either needs to transfer this file into > his/her Collector's Account, or upload the file again. The file can later be > moved to a Collector's Account. The uploader just needs to click the delete > link of the file to get further information. Can't be downloaded.... 2010/1/11 Mary Sullivan > A few Hawkwind shows have been posted by Captain Deli and he wants them to > be available to all who want them. The show he refers to as being the > first > is Wolverhampton 2009 and it is amazing. Here's his email, so you can get > the info from him first hand. Even I managed the download, with some > guidance from C. D. This will be a regular thing, so if he doesn't join, > I'll keep you informed, I asked him if he wanted me to let everyone on this > forum about the goodies, so everything's cool. > > Enjoy, > > Mary > > > > You can try to get access to it through this Rapidshare search engine:- > > http://www.rapidsharedata.com/ > > > and search for 'Hawkwind' - it comes up top, followed by the 2 I intend to > offer the forum later in the week - Ramsgate 84 & Newcastle 01 - both cool > by the way! There's also Kinetic Playground 71 & Glasgow 80 on this site, > the site gets busy, so early morning, u.k. or late night here in the states > is best for free users, from my experience. > > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 10 23:08:46 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:08:46 +0800 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <46CE64B7D05A4EBF885727CA2D5BA5B6@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Mary, Thanks for that insight into HPL. I didn't know that he outgrew his racist views. Now I will have to re-read him and reconsider my views. Apparently his biographer, L. Sprague de Camp mention that he tempered his views later on. There are, however, some terrible examples in his writing which *may* have been written to deliberately shock, eg: For evolved man ? the apex of organic progress on the Earth ? what branch of > reflection is more fitting than that which occupies only his higher and > exclusively human faculties? The primal savage or ape merely looks about his > native forest to find a mate; the exalted Aryan should lift his eyes to > the worlds of space and consider his relation to infinity!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft 2010/1/11 Mary Sullivan > John Majka wrote, "Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The course > of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is > true that earlier > on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to > be > > racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many > letters > > showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have > thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his > views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an > incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that > cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was > published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to > even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of a > Lovecraft novel...." > > Wrote, "A sign of an intelligent person is one who can grow beyond their > earlier work, and admit they were in err. I respect a person that's honest > enough to do that. > > Mary > > P.S. I'd read in a collection of Lovecraft stories that he died from > Rickets? > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Steve Swann > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:10 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > Also, as someone else mentioned, he was a thinking person who in later life > appears (based on his voluminous body of correspondence) to have > reconsidered and recanted his earlier racist views... > > Steve > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson > wrote: > > On 08 Jan 2010, at 07:24 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > >> I agree Lovecraft wrote some fantastic > >> stories, I also understand he had his prejudices. > > > > > > I wouldn't say that I _ignore_ the prejudices evidenced in the works > > of people like Lovecraft and Howard, but I try to remember that they > > are products of their time and culture -- which, despite the closeness > > to my own, _isn't_ the same! After all, I am accustomed to reading > > works by much older authors, some of whom came from cultures in which > > slavery was normal and human sacrifice not unknown (and heaven knows > > whatever other everyday things for them would seem shocking to us), > > and I need to see their works as products of a particular time and > > place as well. (It's easier with them, since there's more distance, > > but really it's the same issue.) > > > > Heck, I wouldn't necessarily condone all the thing some of my favorite > > musicians have done over the years -- but I'm listening to their > > music, not issuing a general approval of everything they did or said > > as an individual! :) > > > > Cheers, > > Carl > > > > -- > > Carl Edlund Anderson > > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 10 23:36:03 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mc HATECRAFT) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:36:03 -0600 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001102008x7057d30t99d53f3beb442a3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What a poor fool!!! Why could he not realise theat subdivisons of the human species are all pathetic properties of the unseen creators having been rushed (witness cancer growth connected to DNA revelations), and that man is simply among that lowly sub-divine creation (witness the food chain), in a form of imposed slavery as birthright, and raised his glance with rage towards the source of all earthly life spare maybe the flowers and trees.... How dare he be created with limited capacity........ and why does Wilfried claim to have a Canadian Xenon Codex??? On 1/10/10, Jonathan Smith wrote: > > Mary, Thanks for that insight into HPL. I didn't know that he outgrew > his racist views. Now I will have to re-read him and reconsider my views. > Apparently his biographer, L. Sprague de Camp mention that he tempered his > views later on. > > There are, however, some terrible examples in his writing which *may* have > been written to deliberately shock, eg: > > For evolved man ? the apex of organic progress on the Earth ? what branch > of > > reflection is more fitting than that which occupies only his higher and > > exclusively human faculties? The primal savage or ape merely looks about > his > > native forest to find a mate; the exalted Aryan should lift his eyes to > > the worlds of space and consider his relation to infinity!!!! > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft > > 2010/1/11 Mary Sullivan > > > John Majka wrote, "Lovecraft is definitely a favorite of mine. The > course > > of his life shows the progress of a true humanitarian and scholar. It is > > true that earlier > > on, Lovecraft could have been considered (along with 99% of Americans) to > > be > > > > racist, but he dropped these views in later years and there are many > > letters > > > > showing his regret that he could have ever been so callow or could have > > thought in such a way. It's heartening that he evaluated himself and his > > views and remade himself. Even the quality of the stories exists on an > > incline, getting ever better and more sophisticated. It's a shame that > > cancer killed him at such a young age and that none of his writing was > > published in book form before his death. He would surely have gone on to > > even greater achievements. One can only speculate about the greatness of > a > > Lovecraft novel...." > > > > Wrote, "A sign of an intelligent person is one who can grow beyond their > > earlier work, and admit they were in err. I respect a person that's > honest > > enough to do that. > > > > Mary > > > > P.S. I'd read in a collection of Lovecraft stories that he died from > > Rickets? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of Steve Swann > > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:10 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > > > > > > Also, as someone else mentioned, he was a thinking person who in later > life > > appears (based on his voluminous body of correspondence) to have > > reconsidered and recanted his earlier racist views... > > > > Steve > > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson > > wrote: > > > On 08 Jan 2010, at 07:24 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > > >> I agree Lovecraft wrote some fantastic > > >> stories, I also understand he had his prejudices. > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't say that I _ignore_ the prejudices evidenced in the works > > > of people like Lovecraft and Howard, but I try to remember that they > > > are products of their time and culture -- which, despite the closeness > > > to my own, _isn't_ the same! After all, I am accustomed to reading > > > works by much older authors, some of whom came from cultures in which > > > slavery was normal and human sacrifice not unknown (and heaven knows > > > whatever other everyday things for them would seem shocking to us), > > > and I need to see their works as products of a particular time and > > > place as well. (It's easier with them, since there's more distance, > > > but really it's the same issue.) > > > > > > Heck, I wouldn't necessarily condone all the thing some of my favorite > > > musicians have done over the years -- but I'm listening to their > > > music, not issuing a general approval of everything they did or said > > > as an individual! :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Carl > > > > > > -- > > > Carl Edlund Anderson > > > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jan 11 07:03:16 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:03:16 -0500 Subject: Captain Deli's offers In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001101603n160db3cducbf52b65b7c2a19b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That's a bummer, is that why I get a funny click when I try to download a Porcupine Tree show 11-25-2002? Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:04 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Captain Deli's offers > > This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's > Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times. This limit is reached. To download this file, the uploader either needs to transfer this file into > his/her Collector's Account, or upload the file again. The file can > later be moved to a Collector's Account. The uploader just needs to > click the delete link of the file to get further information. Can't be downloaded.... 2010/1/11 Mary Sullivan > A few Hawkwind shows have been posted by Captain Deli and he wants > them to be available to all who want them. The show he refers to as > being the first is Wolverhampton 2009 and it is amazing. Here's his > email, so you can get the info from him first hand. Even I managed > the download, with some guidance from C. D. This will be a regular > thing, so if he doesn't join, I'll keep you informed, I asked him if > he wanted me to let everyone on this forum about the goodies, so > everything's cool. > > Enjoy, > > Mary > > > > You can try to get access to it through this Rapidshare search > engine:- > > http://www.rapidsharedata.com/ > > > and search for 'Hawkwind' - it comes up top, followed by the 2 I > intend to offer the forum later in the week - Ramsgate 84 & Newcastle > 01 - both cool by the way! There's also Kinetic Playground 71 & > Glasgow 80 on this site, the site gets busy, so early morning, u.k. or > late night here in the states is best for free users, from my > experience. > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 11 08:22:35 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:22:35 +0000 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001051544hbb5ce30r69ac9569bdbbe0d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > oh good, despite the timewarp my switched cd's didn't mess him up. > I dropped out of 11 th grade Jon, but if Brian's still running around in > Marina Del Rey, and releasing music I'm willling to chase him and Tommy too > I don't have "when science fails" or "Nine Pin Body" so any comments as to > how deep my food rations should now go- appreciated I don't have _When Science Fails_--I must hunt it down for Kompletism reasons--but I do have _Nine Pin Body_. If you happen to have one of the boot versions of the never-released _Myth of Solid Ground_ there is very little on NPB you don't already have. If you don't have that though then there are several awesome crunchy heavy tracks about things coming through portholes, wormholes, dimensional divides, and so on which I would thoroughly recommend and not wish to be without, though there is also some filler stuff that sounds as if Tommy decided one day that Can wasn't minimalist enough and to make that point he'd record something with even less variation *really quietly*. Bracketed by the creeping riff-horrors from outer space, though, so you still finish the record with a grin on your face and a tendency to twitch at unexpected noises. does that help? > On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> (ii) I had it `roughly right' that `Raven' as it stands is the correct full >> track #1, `Sonic Evaporation' is the following track with the "I'm >> disintegrating..." refrain as far as the unexpected multicoloured organ >> cascade, which is `Helianthus', `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' is what >> happens next and `Alius Orbis' starts with the crushing downwards riff that >> we can also identify because it's been in a live set or two like the Strange >> Daze CD-R. `The Way the Sky Is' is of course on _So Many Minds_ so we know >> that one, and `(It's Not A Bad Dream)' refers to the forty-minute circus >> organ outtro we all know and dread. (Dare *you* listen to the thing >> carefully enough to see if it repeats anywhere? I'm not sure it's looped, I >> think they may actually have played it.) A postscript, on relistening to this it seems to me that really, the `disintegration' refrain must belong to `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' as the section that precedes it just has too much in it that doesn't relate to be one track. So now I would say `Raven' as far as the end of the female vocal section, `Sonic Evaporation' for what follows as far as the organ, which is `Helianthus' as I say, then the breakout and build-up from there `Candied Electronic Atmospheres'. The extra track number should probably be in `Sonic Evaporation' somewhere, if we agree that #8 is the outtro to `The Way the Sky Is'. I do wish I could have recovered what I originally thought and McGibbony's response though. Yours, Jon (who seems to be closing in on real-time) -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From mysterioso at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 09:06:09 2010 From: mysterioso at GMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:06:09 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <0DA2892F6ED46743AEFB703E03030E6501C043CDCBC0@EVS03.ad.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Y'know, I think that's the one. I must dig out my anthologies and find the story. 2010/1/8 Arin Komins > Dreamquest of Unknown Kadath, per chance? > > Arin > -------------------------------------------- > Arin Komins > akomins at uchicago.edu > Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A > 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 > tel: (773)834-4087 > fax: (773)702-0559 > -------------------------------------------- > > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- > : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Chris Allen > : Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:04 AM > : To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > : Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > : > : The was one Lovecraft story which featured his journey in sleep to > : mountain-tops (I think there may have been a temple on a plateau) and > : chasms > : (winged beasts on the way, possibly), but I cannot remember for the > : life of > : me what it was called. Does that description ring a bell with anyone? > : It may have featured cats, also, but I may be conflating it with > : another > : story, possibly by Poe. > : > : > : 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > : > : > I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. > : I > : > remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me > : to get > : > a > : > copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, > : after a > : > while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of > : Lord > : > Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which > : stories were > : > influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. > : > > : > Mary > : > > : > -----Original Message----- > : > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- > : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > : > On > : > Behalf Of Paul Mather > : > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM > : > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > : > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > : > > : > > : > On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > : > > : > > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. > : Maybe > : > > I shouldn't admit that openly... > : > > : > Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. > : > > : > Cheers, > : > > : > Paul. > : > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jan 11 09:11:30 2010 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:11:30 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <7e287e6d1001110606v4fd65dbbgc82f761104d330e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That's the 1 I got half way through, since that's all my friend had on tape, it was abridged, but still, I want to finish it. I've got Skype installed, now I just need to find out how to get my skype name and use the program. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Chris Allen Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:06 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request Y'know, I think that's the one. I must dig out my anthologies and find the story. 2010/1/8 Arin Komins > Dreamquest of Unknown Kadath, per chance? > > Arin > -------------------------------------------- > Arin Komins > akomins at uchicago.edu > Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A > 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 > tel: (773)834-4087 > fax: (773)702-0559 > -------------------------------------------- > > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- > : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Chris Allen > : Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:04 AM > : To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > : Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > : > : The was one Lovecraft story which featured his journey in sleep to > : mountain-tops (I think there may have been a temple on a plateau) > and > : chasms > : (winged beasts on the way, possibly), but I cannot remember for the > : life of > : me what it was called. Does that description ring a bell with anyone? > : It may have featured cats, also, but I may be conflating it with > : another > : story, possibly by Poe. > : > : > : 2010/1/7 Mary Sullivan > : > : > I haven't heard a lot from the band, but found I liked what I heard. > : I > : > remember a song "The Mountains Of Madness." It took forever for me > : to get > : > a > : > copy of that story, I expected more. The stories are well told, > : after a > : > while Lovecraft became a parody of himself. I liked the influence of > : Lord > : > Dunsany. I haven't read anything by him, but I can tell which > : stories were > : > influenced by him, they're a totally different style, more dreamy. > : > > : > Mary > : > > : > -----Original Message----- > : > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- > : L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > : > On > : > Behalf Of Paul Mather > : > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:43 AM > : > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > : > Subject: Re: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request > : > > : > > : > On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Chris Allen wrote: > : > > : > > Mind you, I've a wee soft spot for HP Lovecraft the band, too. > : Maybe > : > > I shouldn't admit that openly... > : > > : > Why not? Their 1968 live album is really good. There, I said it. > : > > : > Cheers, > : > > : > Paul. > : > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 10:16:18 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:16:18 -0600 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've got Myth!! I've got Myrth!! thank's again Jon Now if I just had Meth!! On 1/11/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > >> oh good, despite the timewarp my switched cd's didn't mess him up. >> I dropped out of 11 th grade Jon, but if Brian's still running around in >> Marina Del Rey, and releasing music I'm willling to chase him and Tommy >> too >> I don't have "when science fails" or "Nine Pin Body" so any comments as to >> how deep my food rations should now go- appreciated >> > > I don't have _When Science Fails_--I must hunt it down for > Kompletism reasons--but I do have _Nine Pin Body_. If you happen to have one > of the boot versions of the never-released _Myth of Solid Ground_ there is > very little on NPB you don't already have. If you don't have that though > then there are several awesome crunchy heavy tracks about things coming > through portholes, wormholes, dimensional divides, and so on which I would > thoroughly recommend and not wish to be without, though there is also some > filler stuff that sounds as if Tommy decided one day that Can wasn't > minimalist enough and to make that point he'd record something with even > less variation *really quietly*. Bracketed by the creeping riff-horrors from > outer space, though, so you still finish the record with a grin on your face > and a tendency to twitch at unexpected noises. does that help? > > On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> > > > > (ii) I had it `roughly right' that `Raven' as it stands is the correct >>> full >>> track #1, `Sonic Evaporation' is the following track with the "I'm >>> disintegrating..." refrain as far as the unexpected multicoloured organ >>> cascade, which is `Helianthus', `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' is what >>> happens next and `Alius Orbis' starts with the crushing downwards riff >>> that >>> we can also identify because it's been in a live set or two like the >>> Strange >>> Daze CD-R. `The Way the Sky Is' is of course on _So Many Minds_ so we >>> know >>> that one, and `(It's Not A Bad Dream)' refers to the forty-minute circus >>> organ outtro we all know and dread. (Dare *you* listen to the thing >>> carefully enough to see if it repeats anywhere? I'm not sure it's looped, >>> I >>> think they may actually have played it.) >>> >> > A postscript, on relistening to this it seems to me that really, the > `disintegration' refrain must belong to `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' as > the section that precedes it just has too much in it that doesn't relate to > be one track. So now I would say `Raven' as far as the end of the female > vocal section, `Sonic Evaporation' for what follows as far as the organ, > which is `Helianthus' as I say, then the breakout and build-up from there > `Candied Electronic Atmospheres'. The extra track number should probably be > in `Sonic Evaporation' somewhere, if we agree that #8 is the outtro to `The > Way the Sky Is'. I do wish I could have recovered what I originally thought > and McGibbony's response though. Yours, > Jon (who seems to be closing in on real-time) > > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 11 11:06:58 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:06:58 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001070516h5600e55bp28376f0696543557@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with everything > and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit replay??? I talked briefly with Ron at the Barney Bubbles gig. He seemed in good health and jubilant about the gig but didn't have any immediate future plans. He advised me to keep an eye out because when he did have some they were going to be wild, and as I said in the review, his performance suggested a man fully in control of his faculties and, more importantly, Calvert's and Moorcock's words (and his own). All the same, I didn't get the impression that he was spilling over with ambitions just right now. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 13:01:38 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:01:38 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to insect brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal performances. available here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab ?10 + p&p all major credit cards accepted judge trev )On 11/01/2010 16:06, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > >> I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with >> everything >> and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit >> replay??? > > I talked briefly with Ron at the Barney Bubbles gig. He seemed in > good health and jubilant about the gig but didn't have any immediate > future plans. He advised me to keep an eye out because when he did > have some they were going to be wild, and as I said in the review, his > performance suggested a man fully in control of his faculties and, > more importantly, Calvert's and Moorcock's words (and his own). All > the same, I didn't get the impression that he was spilling over with > ambitions just right now. Yours, > Jon > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 13:11:19 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:11:19 -0600 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: actually, that is the ONE CD I want to play NOW I would also say that Bajina takes the cake for driving neigjhbors and cat past the mountains of madness. I had to pull it out on the new nabes with the barky dog Go get Ron........take out a loan and give him an advance?? isn't your mum still alive??? have you not left her in ruin yet as I did mineor is she too stubborn??? On 1/11/10, trev wrote: > > tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to insect > brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full > stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal > performances. > > available here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab > > ?10 + p&p all major credit cards accepted > > judge trev > > > )On 11/01/2010 16:06, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > >> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: >> >> I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with everything >>> and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit >>> replay??? >>> >> >> I talked briefly with Ron at the Barney Bubbles gig. He seemed in good >> health and jubilant about the gig but didn't have any immediate future >> plans. He advised me to keep an eye out because when he did have some they >> were going to be wild, and as I said in the review, his performance >> suggested a man fully in control of his faculties and, more importantly, >> Calvert's and Moorcock's words (and his own). All the same, I didn't get the >> impression that he was spilling over with ambitions just right now. Yours, >> Jon >> >> From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 13:26:14 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:26:14 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001111011o2b4742c1mff2b2f05c0b94f37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: bajina is a second rate live gig recording...insect brain is supreme...listen to the sound clips http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab no one can stand before the judge/tree cannonade of light...no one dy'a hear...no one suzerain of the universe On 11/01/2010 18:11, mike coleman wrote: > actually, that is the ONE CD I want to play > NOW > I would also say that Bajina takes the cake for driving neigjhbors and cat > past the mountains of madness. I had to pull it out on the new nabes with > the barky dog > Go get Ron........take out a loan and give him an advance?? > isn't your mum still alive??? > have you not left her in ruin yet as I did mineor is she too stubborn??? > On 1/11/10, trev wrote: > >> tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to insect >> brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full >> stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal >> performances. >> >> available here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab >> >> ?10 + p&p all major credit cards accepted >> >> judge trev >> >> >> )On 11/01/2010 16:06, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> >> >>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with everything >>> >>>> and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit >>>> replay??? >>>> >>>> >>> I talked briefly with Ron at the Barney Bubbles gig. He seemed in good >>> health and jubilant about the gig but didn't have any immediate future >>> plans. He advised me to keep an eye out because when he did have some they >>> were going to be wild, and as I said in the review, his performance >>> suggested a man fully in control of his faculties and, more importantly, >>> Calvert's and Moorcock's words (and his own). All the same, I didn't get the >>> impression that he was spilling over with ambitions just right now. Yours, >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 13:37:47 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:37:47 -0600 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: NO!!! it is an unparalelled unique indulgence into crazy fun needs a 180gm vinyl!!! Let's face it, if it's guitar we're after we can just watch Eric Johnson's Live at Anaheim video. I was wondering the other night what it's be like to be you and to practice for every second of the rest of my (your) life, only to have Eric step in and destroy every aspect of my (your) ability with one note...... On 1/11/10, trev wrote: > > bajina is a second rate live gig recording...insect brain is > supreme...listen to the sound clips > > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab > > no one can stand before the judge/tree cannonade of light...no one dy'a > hear...no one > > > suzerain of the universe > > > > > On 11/01/2010 18:11, mike coleman wrote: > >> actually, that is the ONE CD I want to play >> NOW >> I would also say that Bajina takes the cake for driving neigjhbors and cat >> past the mountains of madness. I had to pull it out on the new nabes with >> the barky dog >> Go get Ron........take out a loan and give him an advance?? >> isn't your mum still alive??? >> have you not left her in ruin yet as I did mineor is she too stubborn??? >> On 1/11/10, trev wrote: >> >> >>> tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to >>> insect >>> brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full >>> stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal >>> performances. >>> >>> available here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab >>> >>> ?10 + p&p all major credit cards accepted >>> >>> judge trev >>> >>> >>> )On 11/01/2010 16:06, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: >>>> >>>> I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with >>>> everything >>>> >>>> >>>>> and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit >>>>> replay??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I talked briefly with Ron at the Barney Bubbles gig. He seemed in >>>> good >>>> health and jubilant about the gig but didn't have any immediate future >>>> plans. He advised me to keep an eye out because when he did have some >>>> they >>>> were going to be wild, and as I said in the review, his performance >>>> suggested a man fully in control of his faculties and, more importantly, >>>> Calvert's and Moorcock's words (and his own). All the same, I didn't get >>>> the >>>> impression that he was spilling over with ambitions just right now. >>>> Yours, >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 13:46:34 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:46:34 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001111037o3f66e44ele0fa1bffc97482b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: johnson is nothing to judge trev...suzerain of the universe...ha! ....and i don't need to practise like mere mortals...it's all zen babe...zen!...zen!...zen! On 11/01/2010 18:37, mike coleman wrote: > NO!!! it is an unparalelled unique indulgence into crazy fun > needs a 180gm vinyl!!! > Let's face it, if it's guitar we're after we can just watch Eric Johnson's > Live at Anaheim video. > I was wondering the other night what it's be like to be you and to practice > for every second of the rest of my (your) life, only to have Eric step in > and destroy every aspect of my (your) ability with one note...... > > On 1/11/10, trev wrote: > >> bajina is a second rate live gig recording...insect brain is >> supreme...listen to the sound clips >> >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab >> >> no one can stand before the judge/tree cannonade of light...no one dy'a >> hear...no one >> >> >> suzerain of the universe >> >> >> >> >> On 11/01/2010 18:11, mike coleman wrote: >> >> >>> actually, that is the ONE CD I want to play >>> NOW >>> I would also say that Bajina takes the cake for driving neigjhbors and cat >>> past the mountains of madness. I had to pull it out on the new nabes with >>> the barky dog >>> Go get Ron........take out a loan and give him an advance?? >>> isn't your mum still alive??? >>> have you not left her in ruin yet as I did mineor is she too stubborn??? >>> On 1/11/10, trev wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to >>>> insect >>>> brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full >>>> stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal >>>> performances. >>>> >>>> available here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab >>>> >>>> ?10 + p&p all major credit cards accepted >>>> >>>> judge trev >>>> >>>> >>>> )On 11/01/2010 16:06, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with >>>>> everything >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit >>>>>> replay??? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I talked briefly with Ron at the Barney Bubbles gig. He seemed in >>>>> good >>>>> health and jubilant about the gig but didn't have any immediate future >>>>> plans. He advised me to keep an eye out because when he did have some >>>>> they >>>>> were going to be wild, and as I said in the review, his performance >>>>> suggested a man fully in control of his faculties and, more importantly, >>>>> Calvert's and Moorcock's words (and his own). All the same, I didn't get >>>>> the >>>>> impression that he was spilling over with ambitions just right now. >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Jon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 14:01:04 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:01:04 -0600 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes that is actually true, but I fear I've thrown him the keys to the kingdom, and you'd best incorporate him ASAP as he's bound to move away from the Hendrix thing and when he does it's potential danger On 1/11/10, trev wrote: > > johnson is nothing to judge trev...suzerain of the universe...ha! > > ....and i don't need to practise like mere mortals...it's all zen > babe...zen!...zen!...zen! > > > > > On 11/01/2010 18:37, mike coleman wrote: > >> NO!!! it is an unparalelled unique indulgence into crazy fun >> needs a 180gm vinyl!!! >> Let's face it, if it's guitar we're after we can just watch Eric Johnson's >> Live at Anaheim video. >> I was wondering the other night what it's be like to be you and to >> practice >> for every second of the rest of my (your) life, only to have Eric step in >> and destroy every aspect of my (your) ability with one note...... >> >> On 1/11/10, trev wrote: >> >> >>> bajina is a second rate live gig recording...insect brain is >>> supreme...listen to the sound clips >>> >>> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab >>> >>> no one can stand before the judge/tree cannonade of light...no one dy'a >>> hear...no one >>> >>> >>> suzerain of the universe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/01/2010 18:11, mike coleman wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> actually, that is the ONE CD I want to play >>>> NOW >>>> I would also say that Bajina takes the cake for driving neigjhbors and >>>> cat >>>> past the mountains of madness. I had to pull it out on the new nabes >>>> with >>>> the barky dog >>>> Go get Ron........take out a loan and give him an advance?? >>>> isn't your mum still alive??? >>>> have you not left her in ruin yet as I did mineor is she too stubborn??? >>>> On 1/11/10, trev wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to >>>>> insect >>>>> brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album >>>>> ...full >>>>> stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising >>>>> vocal >>>>> performances. >>>>> >>>>> available here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab >>>>> >>>>> ?10 + p&p all major credit cards accepted >>>>> >>>>> judge trev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> )On 11/01/2010 16:06, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with >>>>>> everything >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit >>>>>>> replay??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I talked briefly with Ron at the Barney Bubbles gig. He seemed in >>>>>> good >>>>>> health and jubilant about the gig but didn't have any immediate future >>>>>> plans. He advised me to keep an eye out because when he did have some >>>>>> they >>>>>> were going to be wild, and as I said in the review, his performance >>>>>> suggested a man fully in control of his faculties and, more >>>>>> importantly, >>>>>> Calvert's and Moorcock's words (and his own). All the same, I didn't >>>>>> get >>>>>> the >>>>>> impression that he was spilling over with ambitions just right now. >>>>>> Yours, >>>>>> Jon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 14:33:16 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:33:16 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001111101x2b56efe4rac1a1c50c8bb5f7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: anyway, just shuttup and make everyone buy this http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab because i need the money..ok...satisfied are we??? and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney bubbles artwork as you suggested...ok judge trev On 11/01/2010 19:01, mike coleman wrote: > Yes that is actually true, but I fear I've thrown him the keys to the > kingdom, and you'd best incorporate him ASAP as he's bound to move away from > the Hendrix thing and when he does it's potential danger > > On 1/11/10, trev wrote: > >> johnson is nothing to judge trev...suzerain of the universe...ha! >> >> ....and i don't need to practise like mere mortals...it's all zen >> babe...zen!...zen!...zen! >> >> >> >> >> On 11/01/2010 18:37, mike coleman wrote: >> >> >>> NO!!! it is an unparalelled unique indulgence into crazy fun >>> needs a 180gm vinyl!!! >>> Let's face it, if it's guitar we're after we can just watch Eric Johnson's >>> Live at Anaheim video. >>> I was wondering the other night what it's be like to be you and to >>> practice >>> for every second of the rest of my (your) life, only to have Eric step in >>> and destroy every aspect of my (your) ability with one note...... >>> >>> On 1/11/10, trev wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> bajina is a second rate live gig recording...insect brain is >>>> supreme...listen to the sound clips >>>> >>>> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab >>>> >>>> no one can stand before the judge/tree cannonade of light...no one dy'a >>>> hear...no one >>>> >>>> >>>> suzerain of the universe >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/01/2010 18:11, mike coleman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> actually, that is the ONE CD I want to play >>>>> NOW >>>>> I would also say that Bajina takes the cake for driving neigjhbors and >>>>> cat >>>>> past the mountains of madness. I had to pull it out on the new nabes >>>>> with >>>>> the barky dog >>>>> Go get Ron........take out a loan and give him an advance?? >>>>> isn't your mum still alive??? >>>>> have you not left her in ruin yet as I did mineor is she too stubborn??? >>>>> On 1/11/10, trev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to >>>>>> insect >>>>>> brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album >>>>>> ...full >>>>>> stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising >>>>>> vocal >>>>>> performances. >>>>>> >>>>>> available here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab >>>>>> >>>>>> ?10 + p&p all major credit cards accepted >>>>>> >>>>>> judge trev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> )On 11/01/2010 16:06, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder if Ron has recovered enough to juice him up again with >>>>>>> everything >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and maybe some newly invented chemicals if there are any and hit >>>>>>>> replay??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I talked briefly with Ron at the Barney Bubbles gig. He seemed in >>>>>>> good >>>>>>> health and jubilant about the gig but didn't have any immediate future >>>>>>> plans. He advised me to keep an eye out because when he did have some >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> were going to be wild, and as I said in the review, his performance >>>>>>> suggested a man fully in control of his faculties and, more >>>>>>> importantly, >>>>>>> Calvert's and Moorcock's words (and his own). All the same, I didn't >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> impression that he was spilling over with ambitions just right now. >>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 16:30:00 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:30:00 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Vision Quest Request In-Reply-To: <39dabad60912140509v73a83998o703e718c4616fc30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: When I was in Bombay in the late 90s the featured performer at one of the big restaurants was a bellydancer whose backing band could best be described at Arabic techno metal (chopping metal powerchord guitar and quavery eastern synths over a thundering dance beat). They were so good that I tried to buy a cd or even a freaking demo tape from them. Unfortunately since they were just "the backing band" they had never formally recorded.... On Dec 14, 2009 8:13 AM, "Jonathan Smith" wrote: It would work for sure! :) The idea of Arabic psychedelia sounds great. * Bellymetal* (Kephra seem to be its sole band) sounds too good to be true. There was Hassan i Sabbah.... Cheers, Jonathan 2009/12/14 Carl Edlund Anderson > On 14 Dec 2009, at 07:41 , Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> ..... in an infinitely probable alternate un... From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 11 17:37:40 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:37:40 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <411963.47888.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Colin Allen wrote: > Richard Morley, not Robert.? I spoke with him on a couple of occasions when I was working with HW and got the impression that he was "disenchanted". My mistake! Thanks for the correction. Where would one look for Mr Morley's work? There seem to be rather a lot of candidates on the Internet... Yours, Jon ObCD: Pete Atkin - _Secret Drinker_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jan 11 18:01:14 2010 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:01:14 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't think he has any "work" as such.? He was best known for running a community (of sorts) at Clearwell castle and for adopting a Nepalese boy as his son.? He featured in the mainstream press and on TV a few years ago as there was considerable interest in the adoption and the circumstances surrounding it.? When I spoke with him, he was running a hotel in Tunbridge Wells. The community at Clearwell castle was what he described as a molecular family; it was this, and his views on society, which brought him into contact with HW. To be honest, it was all rather odd. --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: From: Jonathan Jarrett Subject: Re: HW observation To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, 11 January, 2010, 22:37 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Colin Allen wrote: > Richard Morley, not Robert.? I spoke with him on a couple of occasions when I was working with HW and got the impression that he was "disenchanted". ??? My mistake! Thanks for the correction. Where would one look for Mr Morley's work? There seem to be rather a lot of candidates on the Internet... Yours, ??? ??? ???Jon ObCD: Pete Atkin - _Secret Drinker_ --? ? ???Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge? ? jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ???======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man.? With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???-Robert Anton Wilson From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 12 01:32:05 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:32:05 +0800 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <989991.62134.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: *"tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to insect brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal performances."* ** *Insect Brain* really is superb. MOAB had so much potential. (*Bajina* is OK but not nearly as good, although the neighbours surely hate it!). Trev, what are the chances of MOAB every recording again? After all, MOAB is really you and Ron Tree. Also, what happened the other tracks from MOAB-- how about making them available? Jonathan On 12/01/2010, Colin Allen wrote: > > I don't think he has any "work" as such. He was best known for running a > community (of sorts) at Clearwell castle and for adopting a Nepalese boy as > his son. He featured in the mainstream press and on TV a few years ago as > there was considerable interest in the adoption and the circumstances > surrounding it. When I spoke with him, he was running a hotel in Tunbridge > Wells. > > The community at Clearwell castle was what he described as a molecular > family; it was this, and his views on society, which brought him into > contact with HW. > > To be honest, it was all rather odd. > > --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Jonathan Jarrett > wrote: > > From: Jonathan Jarrett > Subject: Re: HW observation > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Monday, 11 January, 2010, 22:37 > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Colin Allen wrote: > > > Richard Morley, not Robert. I spoke with him on a couple of occasions > when I was working with HW and got the impression that he was > "disenchanted". > > My mistake! Thanks for the correction. Where would one look for Mr > Morley's work? There seem to be rather a lot of candidates on the > Internet... Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Pete Atkin - _Secret Drinker_ > -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jan 12 09:15:52 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:15:52 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001112232j4196458s1c11a5b3798025a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ha ha...who knows what the future may bring. There are no plans for Ron and myself at the moment. He has continued MOAB, but apart from Ron being in it, there the connection ends from the original band. We found a great session drummer a day before we recorded Insect Brain...John Morgan from Senser. His drumming really helped to bring the music together with just a two hour rehearsal before we went into the studio. There arn't any other tracks apart from those on Insect Brain. Maybe some iffy live recordings from the couple of gigs we played but I don't have them. We were offered a deal from Black Widow Recs but it was scuppered by the management, and the band fell apart. I really liked playing with Ron...we have a musical afinity. Do you like my manic use of hyperbole...lol *"tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it... Trev .On 12/01/2010 06:32, Jonathan Smith wrote: > *"tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to insect > brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full > stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal > performances."* > ** > *Insect Brain* really is superb. MOAB had so much potential. (*Bajina* is OK > but not nearly as good, although the neighbours surely hate it!). > > Trev, what are the chances of MOAB every recording again? After all, MOAB is > really you and Ron Tree. Also, what happened the other tracks from MOAB-- > how about making them available? > > Jonathan > > > > On 12/01/2010, Colin Allen wrote: > >> I don't think he has any "work" as such. He was best known for running a >> community (of sorts) at Clearwell castle and for adopting a Nepalese boy as >> his son. He featured in the mainstream press and on TV a few years ago as >> there was considerable interest in the adoption and the circumstances >> surrounding it. When I spoke with him, he was running a hotel in Tunbridge >> Wells. >> >> The community at Clearwell castle was what he described as a molecular >> family; it was this, and his views on society, which brought him into >> contact with HW. >> >> To be honest, it was all rather odd. >> >> --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Jonathan Jarrett >> wrote: >> >> From: Jonathan Jarrett >> Subject: Re: HW observation >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Monday, 11 January, 2010, 22:37 >> >> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Colin Allen wrote: >> >> >>> Richard Morley, not Robert. I spoke with him on a couple of occasions >>> >> when I was working with HW and got the impression that he was >> "disenchanted". >> >> My mistake! Thanks for the correction. Where would one look for Mr >> Morley's work? There seem to be rather a lot of candidates on the >> Internet... Yours, >> Jon >> >> ObCD: Pete Atkin - _Secret Drinker_ >> -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> ======================================================================= >> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >> opposite" >> -Robert Anton Wilson >> >> > > From david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM Tue Jan 12 14:22:16 2010 From: david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM (Dave Hall) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:22:16 +0000 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Chaps Have just listed both on e-bay. Good luck. Start of mass clear out. Dave ---- Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > > oh good, despite the timewarp my switched cd's didn't mess him up. > > I dropped out of 11 th grade Jon, but if Brian's still running around in > > Marina Del Rey, and releasing music I'm willling to chase him and Tommy too > > I don't have "when science fails" or "Nine Pin Body" so any comments as to > > how deep my food rations should now go- appreciated > > I don't have _When Science Fails_--I must hunt it down for > Kompletism reasons--but I do have _Nine Pin Body_. If you happen to have > one of the boot versions of the never-released _Myth of Solid Ground_ > there is very little on NPB you don't already have. If you don't have that > though then there are several awesome crunchy heavy tracks about things > coming through portholes, wormholes, dimensional divides, and so on which > I would thoroughly recommend and not wish to be without, though there is > also some filler stuff that sounds as if Tommy decided one day that Can > wasn't minimalist enough and to make that point he'd record something with > even less variation *really quietly*. Bracketed by the creeping > riff-horrors from outer space, though, so you still finish the record with > a grin on your face and a tendency to twitch at unexpected noises. does > that help? > > > On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > > > >> (ii) I had it `roughly right' that `Raven' as it stands is the correct full > >> track #1, `Sonic Evaporation' is the following track with the "I'm > >> disintegrating..." refrain as far as the unexpected multicoloured organ > >> cascade, which is `Helianthus', `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' is what > >> happens next and `Alius Orbis' starts with the crushing downwards riff that > >> we can also identify because it's been in a live set or two like the Strange > >> Daze CD-R. `The Way the Sky Is' is of course on _So Many Minds_ so we know > >> that one, and `(It's Not A Bad Dream)' refers to the forty-minute circus > >> organ outtro we all know and dread. (Dare *you* listen to the thing > >> carefully enough to see if it repeats anywhere? I'm not sure it's looped, I > >> think they may actually have played it.) > > A postscript, on relistening to this it seems to me that really, > the `disintegration' refrain must belong to `Candied Electronic > Atmospheres' as the section that precedes it just has too much in it that > doesn't relate to be one track. So now I would say `Raven' as far as the > end of the female vocal section, `Sonic Evaporation' for what follows as > far as the organ, which is `Helianthus' as I say, then the breakout and > build-up from there `Candied Electronic Atmospheres'. The extra track > number should probably be in `Sonic Evaporation' somewhere, if we agree > that #8 is the outtro to `The Way the Sky Is'. I do wish I could have > recovered what I originally thought and McGibbony's response though. > Yours, > Jon (who seems to be closing in on real-time) > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 12 18:35:40 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:35:40 -0600 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: <20100112192216.LWZRT.91350.root@web07-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: Not a bad idea. If only I had "$ good luck $". Maybe I'll dump a Raven When I do have luck my accuracy rate is about 99.9 Ah well, if I ended up "jousting with Jon", it'd be wrong, just all wrong Now I'm so pissed off that my CD1 of "Acid Jam 2" was stolen while stored gotta go must make someone miserable On 1/12/10, Dave Hall wrote: > > Hi Chaps > > Have just listed both on e-bay. Good luck. Start of mass clear out. > > Dave > ---- Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > > > oh good, despite the timewarp my switched cd's didn't mess him up. > > > I dropped out of 11 th grade Jon, but if Brian's still running around > in > > > Marina Del Rey, and releasing music I'm willling to chase him and Tommy > too > > > I don't have "when science fails" or "Nine Pin Body" so any comments as > to > > > how deep my food rations should now go- appreciated > > > > I don't have _When Science Fails_--I must hunt it down for > > Kompletism reasons--but I do have _Nine Pin Body_. If you happen to have > > one of the boot versions of the never-released _Myth of Solid Ground_ > > there is very little on NPB you don't already have. If you don't have > that > > though then there are several awesome crunchy heavy tracks about things > > coming through portholes, wormholes, dimensional divides, and so on which > > I would thoroughly recommend and not wish to be without, though there is > > also some filler stuff that sounds as if Tommy decided one day that Can > > wasn't minimalist enough and to make that point he'd record something > with > > even less variation *really quietly*. Bracketed by the creeping > > riff-horrors from outer space, though, so you still finish the record > with > > a grin on your face and a tendency to twitch at unexpected noises. does > > that help? > > > > > On 1/5/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > > > > > > > >> (ii) I had it `roughly right' that `Raven' as it stands is the correct > full > > >> track #1, `Sonic Evaporation' is the following track with the "I'm > > >> disintegrating..." refrain as far as the unexpected multicoloured > organ > > >> cascade, which is `Helianthus', `Candied Electronic Atmospheres' is > what > > >> happens next and `Alius Orbis' starts with the crushing downwards riff > that > > >> we can also identify because it's been in a live set or two like the > Strange > > >> Daze CD-R. `The Way the Sky Is' is of course on _So Many Minds_ so we > know > > >> that one, and `(It's Not A Bad Dream)' refers to the forty-minute > circus > > >> organ outtro we all know and dread. (Dare *you* listen to the thing > > >> carefully enough to see if it repeats anywhere? I'm not sure it's > looped, I > > >> think they may actually have played it.) > > > > A postscript, on relistening to this it seems to me that really, > > the `disintegration' refrain must belong to `Candied Electronic > > Atmospheres' as the section that precedes it just has too much in it that > > doesn't relate to be one track. So now I would say `Raven' as far as the > > end of the female vocal section, `Sonic Evaporation' for what follows as > > far as the organ, which is `Helianthus' as I say, then the breakout and > > build-up from there `Candied Electronic Atmospheres'. The extra track > > number should probably be in `Sonic Evaporation' somewhere, if we agree > > that #8 is the outtro to `The Way the Sky Is'. I do wish I could have > > recovered what I originally thought and McGibbony's response though. > > Yours, > > Jon (who seems to be closing in on real-time) > > > > -- > > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > > ======================================================================= > > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > > -Robert Anton Wilson > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 12 19:50:25 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 08:50:25 +0800 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A shame the record deal fell through! I didn't know MOAB still existed, but probably not very good anymore.:) I wouldn't have guessed the drummer had only rehearsed for two hours! I thought there might be more MOAB racks because of the review on Starfarer's web site: http://www.starfarer.net/solowrks18.html They mention *Bad, Spark in the Dark, Negative, Positive, Drain Cleaner Truck, Sanity, Ooh, My Heart. but they must be the live tracks.* The hyperbole is funny but contains some truth.;) The Ron Tree solo tracks which have appeared are not very good. Jonathan 2010/1/12 trev > Ha ha...who knows what the future may bring. There are no plans for Ron > and myself at the moment. > He has continued MOAB, but apart from Ron being in it, there the connection > ends from the original band. > We found a great session drummer a day before we recorded Insect > Brain...John Morgan from Senser. > His drumming really helped to bring the music together with just a two hour > rehearsal before we went into the studio. > > There arn't any other tracks apart from those on Insect Brain. Maybe some > iffy live recordings from the couple of gigs we played but I don't have > them. > > We were offered a deal from Black Widow Recs but it was scuppered by the > management, and the band fell apart. > > I really liked playing with Ron...we have a musical afinity. > > Do you like my manic use of hyperbole...lol > > *"tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it... > > > Trev > > .On 12/01/2010 06:32, Jonathan Smith wrote: > >> *"tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to >> insect >> >> brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full >> stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal >> performances."* >> ** >> *Insect Brain* really is superb. MOAB had so much potential. (*Bajina* is >> OK >> but not nearly as good, although the neighbours surely hate it!). >> >> Trev, what are the chances of MOAB every recording again? After all, MOAB >> is >> really you and Ron Tree. Also, what happened the other tracks from MOAB-- >> how about making them available? >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> On 12/01/2010, Colin Allen wrote: >> >> >>> I don't think he has any "work" as such. He was best known for running a >>> community (of sorts) at Clearwell castle and for adopting a Nepalese boy >>> as >>> his son. He featured in the mainstream press and on TV a few years ago >>> as >>> there was considerable interest in the adoption and the circumstances >>> surrounding it. When I spoke with him, he was running a hotel in >>> Tunbridge >>> Wells. >>> >>> The community at Clearwell castle was what he described as a molecular >>> family; it was this, and his views on society, which brought him into >>> contact with HW. >>> >>> To be honest, it was all rather odd. >>> >>> --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Jonathan Jarrett >>> wrote: >>> >>> From: Jonathan Jarrett >>> Subject: Re: HW observation >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Date: Monday, 11 January, 2010, 22:37 >>> >>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Colin Allen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Richard Morley, not Robert. I spoke with him on a couple of occasions >>>> >>>> >>> when I was working with HW and got the impression that he was >>> "disenchanted". >>> >>> My mistake! Thanks for the correction. Where would one look for Mr >>> Morley's work? There seem to be rather a lot of candidates on the >>> Internet... Yours, >>> Jon >>> >>> ObCD: Pete Atkin - _Secret Drinker_ >>> -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at >>> chiark.greenend.org.uk >>> >>> ======================================================================= >>> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >>> opposite" >>> -Robert Anton Wilson >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 13 10:44:03 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:44:03 +0000 Subject: HW observation In-Reply-To: <39dabad61001121650k17bd8f28kb24681fb941f239d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Some of the tracks might be on this http://www.cherryred.co.uk/cherryred/artists/stevetook.php It's called "Blow It" That many years old moab release was our old managers project, the one who scuppered the Black Widow deal. They though they could go it alone... I can see it would be a good collectors item...They put everything they had on it. I haven't got all that stuff. They have since apparently disappeared from the scene. Never mind everyone...this is designed for the maximum aesthetic reward http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#moab roll up! roll up! All major credit cards accepted!!! trev On 13/01/2010 00:50, Jonathan Smith wrote: > A shame the record deal fell through! I didn't know MOAB still existed, but > probably not very good anymore.:) I wouldn't have guessed the drummer had > only rehearsed for two hours! > > I thought there might be more MOAB racks because of the review on > Starfarer's web site: > > http://www.starfarer.net/solowrks18.html > > They mention *Bad, Spark in the Dark, Negative, Positive, Drain Cleaner > Truck, Sanity, Ooh, My Heart. but they must be the live tracks.* > > The hyperbole is funny but contains some truth.;) The Ron Tree > solo tracks which have appeared are not very good. > > Jonathan > > 2010/1/12 trev > > >> Ha ha...who knows what the future may bring. There are no plans for Ron >> and myself at the moment. >> He has continued MOAB, but apart from Ron being in it, there the connection >> ends from the original band. >> We found a great session drummer a day before we recorded Insect >> Brain...John Morgan from Senser. >> His drumming really helped to bring the music together with just a two hour >> rehearsal before we went into the studio. >> >> There arn't any other tracks apart from those on Insect Brain. Maybe some >> iffy live recordings from the couple of gigs we played but I don't have >> them. >> >> We were offered a deal from Black Widow Recs but it was scuppered by the >> management, and the band fell apart. >> >> I really liked playing with Ron...we have a musical afinity. >> >> Do you like my manic use of hyperbole...lol >> >> *"tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it... >> >> >> Trev >> >> .On 12/01/2010 06:32, Jonathan Smith wrote: >> >> >>> *"tree is nothing without me...he just doesn't realize it...listen to >>> insect >>> >>> brain...his best album outside hawkwind (some say his best album ...full >>> stop) which certainly contains his most expressive and hair-raising vocal >>> performances."* >>> ** >>> *Insect Brain* really is superb. MOAB had so much potential. (*Bajina* is >>> OK >>> but not nearly as good, although the neighbours surely hate it!). >>> >>> Trev, what are the chances of MOAB every recording again? After all, MOAB >>> is >>> really you and Ron Tree. Also, what happened the other tracks from MOAB-- >>> how about making them available? >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/01/2010, Colin Allen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I don't think he has any "work" as such. He was best known for running a >>>> community (of sorts) at Clearwell castle and for adopting a Nepalese boy >>>> as >>>> his son. He featured in the mainstream press and on TV a few years ago >>>> as >>>> there was considerable interest in the adoption and the circumstances >>>> surrounding it. When I spoke with him, he was running a hotel in >>>> Tunbridge >>>> Wells. >>>> >>>> The community at Clearwell castle was what he described as a molecular >>>> family; it was this, and his views on society, which brought him into >>>> contact with HW. >>>> >>>> To be honest, it was all rather odd. >>>> >>>> --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Jonathan Jarrett >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Jonathan Jarrett >>>> Subject: Re: HW observation >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> Date: Monday, 11 January, 2010, 22:37 >>>> >>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Colin Allen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Richard Morley, not Robert. I spoke with him on a couple of occasions >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> when I was working with HW and got the impression that he was >>>> "disenchanted". >>>> >>>> My mistake! Thanks for the correction. Where would one look for Mr >>>> Morley's work? There seem to be rather a lot of candidates on the >>>> Internet... Yours, >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> ObCD: Pete Atkin - _Secret Drinker_ >>>> -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at >>>> chiark.greenend.org.uk >>>> >>>> ======================================================================= >>>> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >>>> opposite" >>>> -Robert Anton Wilson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 13 14:31:16 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:31:16 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind songwritwer offers Maximum Effect with original Barney Bubbles cover artwork Message-ID: Inner City Unit's "best album", Maximum Effect is now available with original Barney Bubbles artwork cover. Price slashed and in wallet style packaging. ?7.99 + p&p Get it here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html Discover the Green Music Festivals REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Jan 13 15:32:48 2010 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:32:48 -0600 Subject: HW: warren ellis mention of HW Message-ID: Evidently Warren Ellis is a fan? http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=8321 Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jan 13 17:37:38 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:37:38 -0500 Subject: HW: warren ellis mention of HW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Arin Komins wrote: > Evidently Warren Ellis is a fan? > > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=8321 They're overdue for a collaboration with a mad sci-fi writer. ;-) Steve From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 14 06:40:44 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:40:44 GMT Subject: HW: warren ellis mention of HW In-Reply-To: Steve Swann's message of Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:37:38 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jan 14 07:48:57 2010 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:48:57 -0500 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001121535r33af80f6se349dbb0aed2a35f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jan 12, 2010, at 6:35 PM, mike coleman wrote: > Now I'm so pissed off that my CD1 of "Acid Jam 2" was stolen while stored Rightfully so, given CD 1 is the better of the two of that album! :-( Cheers, Paul. From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 14 08:14:30 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:14:30 -0500 Subject: HW: warren ellis mention of HW In-Reply-To: <201001141140.o0EBeiHk026505@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:40 AM, M Holmes wrote: > Steve Swann writes: > >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Arin Komins wrote: >> > Evidently Warren Ellis is a fan? >> > >> > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=8321 >> >> They're overdue for a collaboration with a mad sci-fi writer. ?;-) > > I might, using sufficient bribery with beer, be able to persuade Charlie > Stross to do something. > > I'd quite like to see a song about the Infovore in Singularity Sky > (though please Eris, not a rewrite of Star Cannibal), but perhaps > something about in in-game robbery in Halting State (yes, I loved > Digital Nation) would be simpler. What, you don't think a Hawkwind song about Laundry would go over well..?! Steve From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jan 14 23:53:49 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:53:49 -0500 Subject: Atomhenge re-issues Message-ID: I just got another big batch of Atomhenge re-issues: Levitation, Hawklords 25 Years On & Live 78, Lucky Leif, Chronicle of the Black Sword... Ok Atomhenge, you've convinced me. These things are the real deal. Even if these weren't great sounding remasters, they'd be worth picking up for the liner notes. These have to be the first re-issues since Griffin Records that really display some quality of work in the packaging... these are not "make a quick buck" knock-offs like god-knows-how-many shady re-issues by no-name record companies, these are obviously labors of love by true fans. I highly encourage you to buy them all. Whoever runs Cherry Red/Atomhenge, I expect a check in the mail for this... ;-) Steve From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 15 11:25:56 2010 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:25:56 +0000 Subject: Off - OINK bit torrent founder cleared Message-ID: News just broke, that unlike Pirate Bay, OINK founder has been cleared. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/15/oink_verdict/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8461879.stm Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Jan 15 12:51:23 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:51:23 -0500 Subject: Atomhenge re-issues In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001142053w5962403dyb2a12dc2e29c26a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andy Gilham brought me the Atomhenge reissue of Steve Swindells's _Fresh Blood_. I may have to wait on the others, though! Cheers, Carl On 14 Jan 2010, at 23:53 , Steve Swann wrote: > I just got another big batch of Atomhenge re-issues: Levitation, > Hawklords 25 Years On & Live 78, Lucky Leif, Chronicle of the Black > Sword... > > Ok Atomhenge, you've convinced me. These things are the real deal. > > Even if these weren't great sounding remasters, they'd be worth > picking up for the liner notes. These have to be the first re-issues > since Griffin Records that really display some quality of work in the > packaging... these are not "make a quick buck" knock-offs like > god-knows-how-many shady re-issues by no-name record companies, these > are obviously labors of love by true fans. I highly encourage you to > buy them all. > > Whoever runs Cherry Red/Atomhenge, I expect a check in the mail for this... ;-) > > Steve > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Jan 15 13:48:12 2010 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:48:12 +0000 Subject: Mike Burro radio performance: May 9th Message-ID: Greetings my friends, I am happy to announce that, on May 9th, I will be performing at 'Rock On Radio Live' hosted by Danny Coleman ( WIFI 1460AM )This going to be a fantastic show. I'll be playing live, plus discussing music, New Jersey, the local scene, and some of the stories behind the songs. Cheers! Mike http://www.myspace.com/rockonradio1460 Rockonradio1460 at hotmail.com with questions and comments. Tune in...turn on...and as always ROCK ON! WWW.WIFI1460AM.COM WWW.HAMILTONRADIO.NET WWW.WILDNITERADIO.COM WWW.STARFMRADIO.NET _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 16:14:10 2010 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:14:10 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind interviewd by Krankschafts Robot Message-ID: The latest Krankschaft Podcast - Robot Radio - Episode 2 Has just gone Live. The main feature is an interview with Hawkwind backstage at one of the gigs on the winter tour, the outside broadcast robot grills the band about all manner of stuff, it's Hawkwind like you've never heard them before.. Also included are an ICU demo from the 1980's, a tune for Barney Bubbles by Fred and some new characters, notably the Buddha Bot, and "Heavy Bin".. All free at http://www.krankschaft.com or directly from within itunes at: itpc://www.doremi.co.uk/podcastgen1.3/feed.xml Cheers, -Steve From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 15 20:23:23 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 01:23:23 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind interviewd by Krankschafts Robot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm taller than you Suzerain of the Universe On 15/01/2010 21:14, Steve Pond wrote: > The latest Krankschaft Podcast - Robot Radio - Episode 2 Has just gone > Live. > > The main feature is an interview with Hawkwind backstage at one of the > gigs on the winter tour, the outside broadcast robot grills the band > about all manner of stuff, it's Hawkwind like you've never heard them > before.. > > Also included are an ICU demo from the 1980's, a tune for Barney > Bubbles by Fred and some new characters, notably the Buddha Bot, and > "Heavy Bin".. > > All free at http://www.krankschaft.com or directly from within itunes > at: > itpc://www.doremi.co.uk/podcastgen1.3/feed.xml > > Cheers, > > -Steve > > > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Sat Jan 16 02:11:57 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:11:57 -0500 Subject: Atomhenge re-issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Re-issues or diapers, re-issues or diapers?! What a shitty conundrum! :) Steve On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Andy Gilham brought me the Atomhenge reissue of Steve Swindells's _Fresh Blood_. I may have to wait on the others, though! > > Cheers, > Carl > > On 14 Jan 2010, at 23:53 , Steve Swann wrote: > >> I just got another big batch of Atomhenge re-issues: Levitation, >> Hawklords 25 Years On & Live 78, Lucky Leif, Chronicle of the Black >> Sword... >> >> Ok Atomhenge, you've convinced me. ?These things are the real deal. >> >> Even if these weren't great sounding remasters, they'd be worth >> picking up for the liner notes. ?These have to be the first re-issues >> since Griffin Records that really display some quality of work in the >> packaging... ?these are not "make a quick buck" knock-offs like >> god-knows-how-many shady re-issues by no-name record companies, these >> are obviously labors of love by true fans. ?I highly encourage you to >> buy them all. >> >> Whoever runs Cherry Red/Atomhenge, I expect a check in the mail for this... ?;-) >> >> Steve >> > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Jan 16 16:00:52 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:00:52 -0500 Subject: Atomhenge re-issues In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001152311i6b662ce9ob6a4cbd2532a11d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 16 Jan 2010, at 02:11, Steve Swann wrote: > Re-issues or diapers, re-issues or diapers?! What a shitty > conundrum! :) Just so! ;) Though it reminds me that I need to start loading up the iPod my sister got for Luna (in the unlikely event that I have a few spare moments to do so!). I should say "Hurry on Sundown" at least, should be on there .... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jan 16 21:43:16 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:43:16 -0600 Subject: Atomhenge re-issues In-Reply-To: <0399B03D-6843-412A-A276-C0F44D675F6E@carlaz.com> Message-ID: If that newborn's already got an iPod I see no reason to waste one iota of time- I recall Lemmy saying in some interview regarding people's kids wearing MH shirts, that: "it's never too early to start the kids on MH" so with these things in mind why not combine the 2!! Hawkwind diapers!!! ps-If you hold out long enough maybe you can get the japanese mini-LP versions of the AH CDs- the japs _theorectically_ do have the most dust-free manufacturing laboratories On 1/16/10, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 16 Jan 2010, at 02:11, Steve Swann wrote: > >> Re-issues or diapers, re-issues or diapers?! What a shitty conundrum! :) >> > > > Just so! ;) > > Though it reminds me that I need to start loading up the iPod my sister got > for Luna (in the unlikely event that I have a few spare moments to do so!). > I should say "Hurry on Sundown" at least, should be on there .... :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jan 17 19:42:40 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:42:40 +0000 Subject: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: > and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max > effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney bubbles > artwork as you suggested...ok Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, then that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from you... :-) Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 17 23:24:05 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:24:05 -0600 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) Message-ID: Anbody ever notice a "funky" smell on the Real Festival CD paper booklets?? Since they come in "wallet" style I had them in a drawer in my bedroom, but now that I've accumulated a stack of them I've just had to move them out as the smell was waking me up ...and I smoke.......until tomorrow On 1/17/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: > > and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney bubbles >> artwork as you suggested...ok >> > > Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, > then that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from > you... :-) Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 02:39:46 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:39:46 +0800 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001172024l60f90e7cm56f215b35f2cfc2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Free odours! Nice! ;) 2010/1/18 mike coleman > Anbody ever notice a "funky" smell on the Real Festival CD paper booklets?? > Since they come in "wallet" style I had them in a drawer in my bedroom, but > now that I've accumulated a stack of them I've just had to move them out as > the smell was waking me up > ...and I smoke.......until tomorrow > > > > On 1/17/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > > > On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: > > > > and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max > >> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney bubbles > >> artwork as you suggested...ok > >> > > > > Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, > > then that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from > > you... :-) Yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > ======================================================================= > > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > > opposite" > > -Robert Anton Wilson > > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 18 05:01:20 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:01:20 GMT Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:24:05 -0600 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jan 18 06:22:42 2010 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:22:42 +0000 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: <201001181001.o0IA1K7f026123@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Cathedral did a limited version of The Garden of Unearthly Delights which was apple scented. --- On Mon, 18/1/10, M Holmes wrote: From: M Holmes Subject: Re: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, 18 January, 2010, 10:01 mike coleman writes: > Anbody ever notice a "funky" smell on the Real Festival CD paper booklets?? > Since they come in "wallet" style I had them in a drawer in my bedroom, but > now that I've accumulated a stack of them I've just had to move them out as > the smell was waking me up That's the new Big Thing: they'll release CD's in various different scents so that Kollectors have to buy them all. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Mon Jan 18 06:33:11 2010 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:33:11 +0000 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: <324333.99184.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:22:42 +0000, you sent through the ether: >Cathedral did a limited version of The Garden of Unearthly Delights which was apple scented. Madonna's "Like a Prayer" came coated in Patchouli.. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 08:08:21 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:08:21 +0000 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for years...anyone got one? it's one of my faves trev On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: > >> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney >> bubbles artwork as you suggested...ok > > Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, > then that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy > from you... :-) Yours, > Jon > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Jan 18 08:13:36 2010 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:13:36 -0500 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: <324333.99184.qm@web23206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ermm, how do i put this. I was in a Plague Metal band called Dysentery Parlour and our album ( ***K'in Abysmal) smelt of poo. and to most ears sounded like it too.. -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 11:22 am Subject: Re: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) Cathedral did a limited version of The Garden of Unearthly Delights which was apple scented. --- On Mon, 18/1/10, M Holmes wrote: From: M Holmes Subject: Re: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, 18 January, 2010, 10:01 mike coleman writes: > Anbody ever notice a "funky" smell on the Real Festival CD paper booklets?? > Since they come in "wallet" style I had them in a drawer in my bedroom, but > now that I've accumulated a stack of them I've just had to move them out as > the smell was waking me up That's the new Big Thing: they'll release CD's in various different scents so that Kollectors have to buy them all. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 08:14:26 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:14:26 +0000 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: <0kh8l5hnnl456sktm44sbaqi2pg0b0mbjo@4ax.com> Message-ID: yes max effect is in a special "plastic fetish" masturbation wallet. christian turned me on to it... get it here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#icu all major credit cards accepted only ?7.99 + p&p On 18/01/2010 11:33, Steve Pond wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:22:42 +0000, you sent through the ether: > > >> Cathedral did a limited version of The Garden of Unearthly Delights which was apple scented. >> > Madonna's "Like a Prayer" came coated in Patchouli.. > > > > > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 18 08:27:39 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:27:39 +0000 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001121535r33af80f6se349dbb0aed2a35f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > Ah well, if I ended up "jousting with Jon", it'd be wrong, just all wrong No need to fear on that score, I don't use eBay. Can't guarantee to be online and watching at the right time, so I'd only ever get uncontested things. At which rate I may as well just buy them. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 09:58:49 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:58:49 -0600 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/18/10, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > > Ah well, if I ended up "jousting with Jon", it'd be wrong, just all wrong >> > > No need to fear on that score, I don't use eBay. Can't guarantee to > be online and watching at the right time, so I'd only ever get uncontested > things. At which rate I may as well just buy them. Yours, > Jon I'll craft you an eBay gun if you want one.... But you must always keep it holstered when not firing, and NEVER let anyone handle your package.(period inserted for SS) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 10:02:51 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:02:51 -0600 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: LOL since my original post I put the RFM CD's on the patio to air out, and then it came to me- see if any other cds smell by god they all smell like the same paper smell when removed from the jewel cases. I guess the wallets "leak" On 1/18/10, trev wrote: > > yes max effect is in a special "plastic fetish" masturbation wallet. > christian turned me on to it... > > get it here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#icu > > all major credit cards accepted > > only ?7.99 + p&p > > > On 18/01/2010 11:33, Steve Pond wrote: > >> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:22:42 +0000, you sent through the ether: >> >> >> >>> Cathedral did a limited version of The Garden of Unearthly Delights which >>> was apple scented. >>> >>> >> Madonna's "Like a Prayer" came coated in Patchouli.. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 10:49:45 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Fabienne Shine) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:49:45 -0600 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: <0kh8l5hnnl456sktm44sbaqi2pg0b0mbjo@4ax.com> Message-ID: On 1/18/10, Steve Pond wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:22:42 +0000, I sent through the ether > Madonna's "Like a Prayer" came coated in Patchouli.. > > > > *PUKE!!~!~!* what, was she posing as a hippie for a minute?? that is sooo wrong. It should have come with a packet of patchouli fragrance for the owner of the CD to disguise himself/herself for partaking of whtever it is she put on that disc.... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 11:16:33 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:16:33 -0600 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I seem to recall that's with Amyl Nitrate and if so I've got it nailed from my friends in Illinois for 20 USA.... well Judge??? the paypal remains the same.,,. On 1/18/10, trev wrote: > > i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for > years...anyone got one? > it's one of my faves > > > > trev > > On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > >> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: >> >> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >>> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney bubbles >>> artwork as you suggested...ok >>> >> >> Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, then >> that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from you... >> :-) Yours, >> Jon >> >> From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 18 11:18:27 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:18:27 +0000 Subject: Atomhenge re-issues In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001142053w5962403dyb2a12dc2e29c26a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, Steve Swann wrote: > Ok Atomhenge, you've convinced me. These things are the real deal. > > Even if these weren't great sounding remasters, they'd be worth > picking up for the liner notes. These have to be the first re-issues > since Griffin Records that really display some quality of work in the > packaging... these are not "make a quick buck" knock-offs like > god-knows-how-many shady re-issues by no-name record companies, these > are obviously labors of love by true fans. I highly encourage you to > buy them all. I've only got two of these so far, and Amazon told me one was unobtainable before changing its mind two days later, so the distribution might still need some work... but you're quite right, the actual product is great. So far I have _Live 79_, which has everything you'd expect and sounds great (though I never had a non-remaster CD of this, so I don't have a comparator), and _PXR5_, which has completely resold me on the album, and especially the track of `Jack of Shadows'. I never much cared for it before, and now there's three versions on here, but the other two are live demo versions, and one has Adrian Shaw on vocals which is fun in itself, but the other is Calvert singing with no effects on, his voice clearly a bit tired, but you can hear every nuance of expression he's putting into the words, and none of it's overstated (perhaps because he was tired), it's just masterful, and the band is perfect behind him. I'd far rather have this version than the finished one. But meanwhile, having Simon House's violin break on `Robot' remastered *suits me fine* so I would recommend this one to the house and will be getting more. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 11:54:23 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:54:23 +0000 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001180816k2bffd9t439410a6d3f252cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As I mentioned in your private BEGGING EMAIL...Salvation cannot be bought...neither can redemption from ETERNAL DAMNATION Judge God ps. unless you are yourself God of course On 18/01/2010 16:16, mike coleman wrote: > I seem to recall that's with Amyl Nitrate and if so I've got it nailed from > my friends in Illinois for 20 USA.... > well Judge??? > the paypal remains the same.,,. > > On 1/18/10, trev wrote: > >> i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for >> years...anyone got one? >> it's one of my faves >> >> >> >> trev >> >> On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> >> >>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: >>> >>> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >>> >>>> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney bubbles >>>> artwork as you suggested...ok >>>> >>>> >>> Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, then >>> that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from you... >>> :-) Yours, >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 12:36:53 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:36:53 -0600 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh no as you know I pride myself on being "the host with the most" (DEMONS), and if you think I'd let a single one leave for (excuse me I'm getting pains in my sides), "salvation", then you must be......mad you have to buy your own music, I already demonically found you plenty of copies I need nobody's "great restraining order" thank you, and besides the people on this forum I really don't need anybody period On 1/18/10, trev wrote: > > As I mentioned in your private BEGGING EMAIL...Salvation cannot be > bought...neither can redemption from ETERNAL DAMNATION > > Judge God > > ps. unless you are yourself God of course > > > On 18/01/2010 16:16, mike coleman wrote: > >> I seem to recall that's with Amyl Nitrate and if so I've got it nailed >> from >> my friends in Illinois for 20 USA.... >> well Judge??? >> the paypal remains the same.,,. >> >> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >> >> >>> i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for >>> years...anyone got one? >>> it's one of my faves >>> >>> >>> >>> trev >>> >>> On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: >>>> >>>> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >>>> >>>> >>>>> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney >>>>> bubbles >>>>> artwork as you suggested...ok >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, then >>>> that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from >>>> you... >>>> :-) Yours, >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 13:15:34 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:15:34 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Re: NIK: Message-ID: Of course in reality, the concept of demons _is_ problematical, as wicked entities seem to exist, but surely none more wicked than that which prevents man from knowing his true position.....and not not only what is _out there_, but that which comes and goes freely and watches. I tried to buy that 45 with Trev's money, loan it to him, pay it back, and recover the 45 I'm going to lie down now On 1/18/10, mike coleman wrote: > > Oh no > as you know I pride myself on being "the host with the most" (DEMONS), and > if you think I'd let a single one leave for (excuse me I'm getting pains in > my sides), "salvation", then you must be......mad > you have to buy your own music, I already demonically found you plenty of > copies > I need nobody's "great restraining order" thank you, and besides the people > on this forum I really don't need anybody period > > > > > On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >> >> As I mentioned in your private BEGGING EMAIL...Salvation cannot be >> bought...neither can redemption from ETERNAL DAMNATION >> >> Judge God >> >> ps. unless you are yourself God of course >> >> >> On 18/01/2010 16:16, mike coleman wrote: >> >>> I seem to recall that's with Amyl Nitrate and if so I've got it nailed >>> from >>> my friends in Illinois for 20 USA.... >>> well Judge??? >>> the paypal remains the same.,,. >>> >>> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >>> >>> >>>> i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for >>>> years...anyone got one? >>>> it's one of my faves >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> trev >>>> >>>> On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney >>>>>> bubbles >>>>>> artwork as you suggested...ok >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, >>>>> then >>>>> that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from >>>>> you... >>>>> :-) Yours, >>>>> Jon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 13:25:03 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:25:03 +0000 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001180936n1f2c7fe1uccb74249d48d8096@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You need GOD So does everyone on this list, so you'd better buy GOD AND MAN to be safe http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#judge-trev ?10 + p&p All major credit cards accepted On 18/01/2010 17:36, mike coleman wrote: > Oh no > as you know I pride myself on being "the host with the most" (DEMONS), and > if you think I'd let a single one leave for (excuse me I'm getting pains in > my sides), "salvation", then you must be......mad > you have to buy your own music, I already demonically found you plenty of > copies > I need nobody's "great restraining order" thank you, and besides the people > on this forum I really don't need anybody period > > > > > On 1/18/10, trev wrote: > >> As I mentioned in your private BEGGING EMAIL...Salvation cannot be >> bought...neither can redemption from ETERNAL DAMNATION >> >> Judge God >> >> ps. unless you are yourself God of course >> >> >> On 18/01/2010 16:16, mike coleman wrote: >> >> >>> I seem to recall that's with Amyl Nitrate and if so I've got it nailed >>> from >>> my friends in Illinois for 20 USA.... >>> well Judge??? >>> the paypal remains the same.,,. >>> >>> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for >>>> years...anyone got one? >>>> it's one of my faves >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> trev >>>> >>>> On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney >>>>>> bubbles >>>>>> artwork as you suggested...ok >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, then >>>>> that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from >>>>> you... >>>>> :-) Yours, >>>>> Jon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jan 18 13:47:52 2010 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:47:52 -0500 Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 18 Jan 2010, at 08:27, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > I don't use eBay. Can't guarantee to be online and watching at the > right time, so I'd only ever get uncontested things. At which rate > I may as well just buy them. Yeah, I always had that problem with eBay. The amount of time one needs to invest in watching the progress of an auction rather swallows up any other benefits! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 15:53:27 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:53:27 -0600 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If man is involved I will torture it and spit at it's maker better record a new abbreviated title On 1/18/10, trev wrote: > > You need GOD > > So does everyone on this list, so you'd better buy GOD AND MAN to be safe > > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#judge-trev > > ?10 + p&p > > All major credit cards accepted > > > On 18/01/2010 17:36, mike coleman wrote: > >> Oh no >> as you know I pride myself on being "the host with the most" (DEMONS), and >> if you think I'd let a single one leave for (excuse me I'm getting pains >> in >> my sides), "salvation", then you must be......mad >> you have to buy your own music, I already demonically found you plenty of >> copies >> I need nobody's "great restraining order" thank you, and besides the >> people >> on this forum I really don't need anybody period >> >> >> >> >> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >> >> >>> As I mentioned in your private BEGGING EMAIL...Salvation cannot be >>> bought...neither can redemption from ETERNAL DAMNATION >>> >>> Judge God >>> >>> ps. unless you are yourself God of course >>> >>> >>> On 18/01/2010 16:16, mike coleman wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I seem to recall that's with Amyl Nitrate and if so I've got it nailed >>>> from >>>> my friends in Illinois for 20 USA.... >>>> well Judge??? >>>> the paypal remains the same.,,. >>>> >>>> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for >>>>> years...anyone got one? >>>>> it's one of my faves >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> trev >>>>> >>>>> On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney >>>>>>> bubbles >>>>>>> artwork as you suggested...ok >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, >>>>>> then >>>>>> that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from >>>>>> you... >>>>>> :-) Yours, >>>>>> Jon >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 17:32:12 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (hope) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:32:12 -0600 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001181253n498f8926pe75cca9b40d34d34@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am compelled (embarrasingly) to cap this: I am not spewing hate without a rainbow- one can simply "turn alien" amd pray to that which _did not_ create man, although I suppose being able to "turn alien" does demostrate some value of mankind's author. I am sick to death of the human race failing to realise that the US governement has had physical and biological material from elsewhere for decades. Until the fact is overcome collectively, the race is a bunch of fruitflies flittiing about blinded by the excuse they created and cling too for dear ego.....going NOWHERE.....no matter near or far and putty for world political systems to have whatever way with they choose On 1/18/10, mike coleman wrote: > > If man is involved I will torture it and spit at it's maker > better record a new abbreviated title > > > On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >> >> You need GOD >> >> So does everyone on this list, so you'd better buy GOD AND MAN to be safe >> >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#judge-trev >> >> ?10 + p&p >> >> All major credit cards accepted >> >> >> On 18/01/2010 17:36, mike coleman wrote: >> >>> Oh no >>> as you know I pride myself on being "the host with the most" (DEMONS), >>> and >>> if you think I'd let a single one leave for (excuse me I'm getting pains >>> in >>> my sides), "salvation", then you must be......mad >>> you have to buy your own music, I already demonically found you plenty of >>> copies >>> I need nobody's "great restraining order" thank you, and besides the >>> people >>> on this forum I really don't need anybody period >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >>> >>> >>>> As I mentioned in your private BEGGING EMAIL...Salvation cannot be >>>> bought...neither can redemption from ETERNAL DAMNATION >>>> >>>> Judge God >>>> >>>> ps. unless you are yourself God of course >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18/01/2010 16:16, mike coleman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I seem to recall that's with Amyl Nitrate and if so I've got it nailed >>>>> from >>>>> my friends in Illinois for 20 USA.... >>>>> well Judge??? >>>>> the paypal remains the same.,,. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for >>>>>> years...anyone got one? >>>>>> it's one of my faves >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> trev >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney >>>>>>>> bubbles >>>>>>>> artwork as you suggested...ok >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from >>>>>>> you... >>>>>>> :-) Yours, >>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jan 18 20:03:58 2010 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 01:03:58 +0000 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001181432kc035227w6a0059e5c2c3779d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: hope Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:32:12 To: Subject: Re: NIK: I am compelled (embarrasingly) to cap this: I am not spewing hate without a rainbow- one can simply "turn alien" amd pray to that which_did not_ create man, although I suppose being able to "turn alien" does demostrate some value of mankind's author. I am sick to death of the human race failing to realise that the US governement has had physical and biological material from elsewhere for decades. Until the fact is overcome collectively, the race is a bunch of fruitflies flittiing about blinded by the excuse they created and cling too for dear ego.....going NOWHERE.....no matter near or far and putty for world political systems to have whatever way with they choose On 1/18/10, mike coleman wrote: > > If man is involved I will torture it and spit at it's maker > better record a new abbreviated title > > > On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >> >> You need GOD >> >> So does everyone on this list, so you'd better buy GOD AND MAN to be safe >> >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#judge-trev >> >> ?10 + p&p >> >> All major credit cards accepted >> >> >> On 18/01/2010 17:36, mike coleman wrote: >> >>> Oh no >>> as you know I pride myself on being "the host with the most" (DEMONS), >>> and >>> if you think I'd let a single one leave for (excuse me I'm getting pains >>> in >>> my sides), "salvation", then you must be......mad >>> you have to buy your own music, I already demonically found you plenty of >>> copies >>> I need nobody's "great restraining order" thank you, and besides the >>> people >>> on this forum I really don't need anybody period >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >>> >>> >>>> As I mentioned in your private BEGGING EMAIL...Salvation cannot be >>>> bought...neither can redemption from ETERNAL DAMNATION >>>> >>>> Judge God >>>> >>>> ps. unless you are yourself God of course >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18/01/2010 16:16, mike coleman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I seem to recall that's with Amyl Nitrate and if so I've got it nailed >>>>> from >>>>> my friends in Illinois for 20 USA.... >>>>> well Judge??? >>>>> the paypal remains the same.,,. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> i haven't got a recording of paradise beach...i've been looking for >>>>>> years...anyone got one? >>>>>> it's one of my faves >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> trev >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18/01/2010 00:42, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, trev wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and it's the best thing on real festival music, together with max >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> effect...and i'm making a new cover for max with original barney >>>>>>>> bubbles >>>>>>>> artwork as you suggested...ok >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah, now if you were to put `Paradise Beach' on as a bonus track, >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> that'd be worth buying even for those who already bought a copy from >>>>>>> you... >>>>>>> :-) Yours, >>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Jan 19 05:06:45 2010 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:06:45 +0000 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001181432kc035227w6a0059e5c2c3779d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > I am sick to death of the human race > failing to realise that the US governement has had physical and > biological material from elsewhere for decades. Not very intelligent of those aliens to crash in the US, then. And not very considerate of them not to come and clean up their mess. ;-) Gr, Arjan H --------------------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 19 06:26:35 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:26:35 GMT Subject: FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:47:52 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 19 08:30:55 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (hope) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:30:55 -0600 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: <20100119100259.M58513@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: > > > Not very intelligent of those aliens to crash in the US, then. And not very > considerate of them not to come and clean up their mess. > > ;-) my personal favorite belief on this is that it was somehow brought down by lightning. But supposedly 2 of them slammed into one another (also not so bright), however the US governement was trying like crazy to shoot one down, to the point of obsession, and they might have just got lucky. also could have been " a plant" There is (unproven rumor), that they did come back for the material, and missed their intended landing co-ordinates which resulted in the 1964 soccoro landing I mentioned before. Then things get real nuts into exchange programs and real life close encounters movie stuff. The important thing is that now compartmentalized (supposed military, and Eisenhour warned about this happening) organisation got the stuff, it's absolutely real, and aside of the money and power systems involved in keeping it secret, they think the public cannot handle it and I tend to agree and that is why I'm so pissed off. Aliens are "just dandy" to the public at large, as long as they exist in far-off worlds, but as soon as they can get here, people get scared and want to laugh them away. The nuclear activites in the USA at that time seem to have been the big attraction. over to you Nik. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 19 08:39:51 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:39:51 -0600 Subject: (OFF): FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? Message-ID: On 1/19/10, M Holmes wrote: > > > I built up a goodly number of Hawkwind rarities by trading on Ebay. > When I discovered what the hell the bubble lights I'd had on the xmas > tree as a kid were (see 1950's bubble lights: Telsen and Noma), Ebay was > a godsend in helping me obtain enough of them (they're collectibles of > course) to light my tree. Without looking to see these, could these be lights with coloured liquid that bubbles up into a tube/chamber?? If so, I had them in the early 70s, and was enchanted by them myself. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 19 08:58:59 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:58:59 -0600 Subject: (OFF)Re: NIK: Message-ID: On 1/19/10, hope wrote: > > >> Not very intelligent of those aliens to crash in the US, then. And not >> very >> considerate of them not to come and clean up their mess. >> >> ;-) > > What's _REALLY_ annoying and even more of a perplexion (just go with it), is the cattle mutilation problem we have in the USA. this is a greater mystery than the UFO phenomena, though many of us feel the 2 are connected, and the bastards don't seem to care that chucking back the carcasses scares us. I'm suggesting signs with flashing lights attempting to teach them peoper ettiquete/manners, and also a depiction of a farmhouse with a circle and a slash so they don't do it too close to people. mutialtions can occur in a single moment right outside your bedroom window (if you're a farmer), and you hear nothing. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 19 10:22:30 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:22:30 GMT Subject: (OFF): FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:39:51 -0600 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 19 10:24:04 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:24:04 GMT Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:58:59 -0600 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 19 10:47:39 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:47:39 -0600 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <201001191524.o0JFO4Vn010210@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 1/19/10, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > What's _REALLY_ annoying and even more of a perplexion (just go with > it), > > is the cattle mutilation problem we have in the USA. > Weird that you consider that more irritating than all the anal probing. > FoFP Actually not so weird considering one of the main things conistently occuring with the mutes, is the coring out of the anus. Maybe this is where alien abduction wannabees and wishfuls got the idea. What the situation is, from a US intelligence perspective, is that we have more advanced intelligence(s) sharing our airspace (and world) on a daily basis, and we are powerless to stop it even if we needed to. One can only hope that the secrecy these intelligences themselves are keeping, is that at least some of them are just waiting for us to "come out of the cave". They probably don't like having rocks thrown at them. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 19 11:14:07 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:14:07 GMT Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:47:39 -0600 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jan 19 11:46:19 2010 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:46:19 +0000 Subject: no header In-Reply-To: <201001191614.o0JGE7EB014024@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Will you please cease this inane and pruriently dissolute off-topic banter, and resume your buying of loads of cds from this wonderful hawkwind songwriter. Now that Blessed One Christian has got the boot for the 3rd time, how do you think I'm going to pay my champagne bill this month??? It might interest you to know that on the "other" list I'm accepted now as being God. Judge God Discover the Green Music Festivals REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers Trev and Kev MySpace http://www.myspace.com/trevandkev Judge Trev MySpace http://www.myspace.com/judgetrev Real Music Club MySpace http://www.myspace.com/realmusicclubbrighton1 Real Music Club website http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/realmusicclub1.html Inner City Unit Myspace http://www.myspace.com/nikturnerinnercityunit Judge Trev: http://www.judgetrev.com AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR Judge Trev albums http://www.judgetrev.com/discography-albums.html On 19/01/2010 16:14, M Holmes wrote: > mike coleman writes: > > >> Actually not so weird considering one of the main things conistently >> occuring with the mutes, is the coring out of the anus. >> > It'll be an alien Kollectors' thing. They probably all have a line of > cattle-arses preserved under glass on whatever passes for their mantlepieces. > > You know how it goes: once they've got a couple, they'll want the whole set. > > FoFP > > > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Jan 19 11:53:33 2010 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:53:33 -0500 Subject: (OFF): FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: <201001191522.o0JFMUxt010080@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:22 AM, M Holmes wrote: > Took me years (and the invention of the Interweb) to figure out what > they were. Nobody else in the UK had ever even heard of them. I never saw this type of bubble Christmas tree light until I came to the USA. Someone I was visiting, in Gainesville, Florida, had them up on his Christmas tree. I thought they looked pretty cool. Cheers, Paul. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 19 14:41:41 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:41:41 -0600 Subject: no header In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I guess it's time you were informed.... now that the people of earth are waking up, the harsh realities of mankind's already harsh nature (at it's fundamental root) has brought smack back and it's more acceptable than ever... get our money?? hahahahaha yeah right we need YOURS On 1/19/10, trev wrote: > > Will you please cease this inane and pruriently dissolute off-topic banter, > and resume your buying of loads of cds from this wonderful hawkwind > songwriter. > Now that Blessed One Christian has got the boot for the 3rd time, how do > you think I'm going to pay my champagne bill this month??? > > It might interest you to know that on the "other" list I'm accepted now as > being God. > > Judge God > > > Discover the Green Music Festivals > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk < > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/> > Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers > > Trev and Kev MySpace http://www.myspace.com/trevandkev > > Judge Trev MySpace http://www.myspace.com/judgetrev > > Real Music Club MySpace http://www.myspace.com/realmusicclubbrighton1 > > Real Music Club website > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/realmusicclub1.html > > Inner City Unit Myspace http://www.myspace.com/nikturnerinnercityunit > > Judge Trev: http://www.judgetrev.com > > AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF > THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME > OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND > IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR > > Judge Trev albums http://www.judgetrev.com/discography-albums.html > > On 19/01/2010 16:14, M Holmes wrote: > >> mike coleman writes: >> >> >> >>> Actually not so weird considering one of the main things conistently >>> occuring with the mutes, is the coring out of the anus. >>> >>> >> It'll be an alien Kollectors' thing. They probably all have a line of >> cattle-arses preserved under glass on whatever passes for their >> mantlepieces. >> >> You know how it goes: once they've got a couple, they'll want the whole >> set. >> >> FoFP >> >> >> >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 19 14:50:28 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:50:28 -0600 Subject: Fwd: HW: making myself useful and slapping Trev In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001191147l5b0b3a22p377bb586618578f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: *all thanks to Wilfried Shuesler for this!!* CD SERVICES NEWS 40 - 42 BRANTWOOD AVE DUNDEE DD3 6EW UK Telephone: (+44) 0 1382 776595 / Fax: (+44) 0 1382 776595 E-Mail: orders at cd-services.com or info at cd-services.com On-Line Stores: www.cd-services.com In this message... Here is an updated version of the posting we made earlier today, with some additional text detail and the Cover Art for the pending release of 'Hawkwind at the BBC-1972 Double Disc Set... HAWKWIND: HAWKWIND AT THE BBC-1972 (2CD - Mono+Stereo Mixes & Sessions - Stock # T1281594) 2CD ?13.99 Legendary space-rock outfit Hawkwind have maintained an extremely loyal fan base and amassed 14 Top-40 albums throughout the 5 decades they've been active. Their re-issues continue to sell well, with the last 'live' album re-issued on EMI - 2007's 'Space Ritual' - selling 5k units OTC to date. 'Hawkwind At The BBC-1972' captures the band just after the surprise of the UK no. 3 hit single in July with the classic: 'Silver Machine', and before their 'live' experience: 'Space Ritual' which was recorded on tour later that same year. Whilst the bulk of this Double CD release is made up of the 'live' set recorded for the BBC In Concert programme, it opens with a previously unreleased session recorded for Johnnie Walker featuring a shortened version of the 'Doremi Fasol Latido' album classic: 'Brainstorm' and a version of the then hit single: 'Silver Machine', featuring Lemmy on vocals, as per the single. The In Concert itself, a hypnotic continuous performance, is presented in both MONO and STEREO versions. The Mono version was previously released by Windsong on CD in 1991 and has now been Remastered and Re-Indexed to include all of the pieces originally performed, and the concert itself in its entirety. The Stereo version has long been in the domain of the bootleggers as an off-air recording known the as "Broadcast" version. This mix was in fact distributed by the BBC for broadcast internationally and features an edited: 'Brainstorm', missing approximately 4 minutes from the front of the song, a shorter: 'Welcome To The Future' and 'Electronic No. 1' (not indexed on the previous CD release), but a longer 'Countdown' introduction. Officially released for the first time, apart from being in Stereo, the sound quality is superior to the Mono version and the mix is generally more exciting. Whilst the CD racks and on-line listings are full of unofficial and poor Hawkwind 'live' recordings, this set is a prime chunk of space rock from the band at the peak of their powers and is an essential addition to the band's huge discography. Track List - CD1: 01. Brainstorm [Mono - Johnnie Walker Radio 1 session] * Previously Unreleased * 02. Silver Machine [Mono - Johnnie Walker Radio 1 session] * Previously Unreleased * 03. Countdown [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 04. Born To Go [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 05. Black Corridor [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 06. Seven By Seven [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 07. Brainstorm [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 08. Electronic No. 1 [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 09. Master Of The Universe [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 10. Paranoia [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 11. Earth Calling [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 12. Silver Machine [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] 13. Welcome To The Future [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] Track List - CD2: 01. Countdown [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 02. Born To Go [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 03. Black Corridor [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 04. Seven By Seven [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 05. Brainstorm [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 06. Electronic No. 1 [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 07. Master Of The Universe [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 08. Paranoia [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 09. Earth Calling [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 10. Silver Machine [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * 11. Welcome To The Future [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * For technical reasons this title is not yet available from our on-line shop, however, as an existing CDS customer, ordering it NOW could not be easier! Simply press your 'Reply' key (some e-mail clients require you to highlight the text you wish to copy first), then 'Send' the e-mail back to us. Alternatively, just copy & paste the Artist & Title line into a fresh e-mail and send it to orders at cd-services.com . If you reply from the e-mail address we sent this info to, you don't even need to type out your address details or customer number on your return order, as we can pick up all the details we need from your e-mail address. Some customers still like to Telephone or Fax their orders in, so these options are still open to you to use, but remember if you use the Fax option, please include your customer number or post-code to enable us to locate your account quickly, plus, if necessary, any update to your credit card details. If your last order was a credit card transaction, and you wish to use a new credit card, of if you think the credit card details on your CDS account may be out of date, please contact us to refresh the data; otherwise we do not need this information to process your order. Please note: If you paid your last order by cheque or postal-order, you can still send the e-mail back to reserve the items you want, and we will send the goods once your payment has arrived. Please remember that CD Services does not charge your credit card until the day your order is shipped out to you, so placing a pre-order on new releases cost you nothing, and often allows you to take advantage of any pre-release deal price we may be offering on some items. PRICES quoted are in UK Pounds (?) only, and all are inclusive of V.A.T. at the standard UK rate of 17.5%. (Non EEC Customers that are exempt from paying UK taxes should divide the quoted prices by 1.175 to calculate the V.A.T. free prices they will pay). All PRICES are subject to change without prior notice. POSTAGE RATES are as per normal CDS rates for this item in your area in the world. The CD Services Team. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jan 19 16:28:55 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:28:55 -0600 Subject: (OFF): FarFlung techincal question/Grenas apology? In-Reply-To: <1907D1D5-C8E2-4C7C-BD76-17F2950FDC3A@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: damn, I'm out of benzos otherwise I'd be willing to medicate in order to get off the computer, but I am (slowly) reincorporating the televison so I'll give it my best shot.... I thought these things were "the new' gimmic when I got them, but I see they originate from the "golden age of the flying saucer craze" in the USA and they are obviously inspired by back-engineering something.... wow, we got cheated here!! I think I recall mine were bloody noisy!!! and further.... Mike, it would appear like the 2 tracks on your BBC LP have hit CD would it not?? can I buy your LP now for a lot of dosh out of somebody else's wallet??? On 1/19/10, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:22 AM, M Holmes wrote: > > > Took me years (and the invention of the Interweb) to figure out what > > they were. Nobody else in the UK had ever even heard of them. > > I never saw this type of bubble Christmas tree light until I came to the > USA. Someone I was visiting, in Gainesville, Florida, had them up on his > Christmas tree. I thought they looked pretty cool. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > From stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Jan 19 14:32:06 2010 From: stewartbas at AOL.COM (stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:32:06 -0500 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <201001191524.o0JFO4Vn010210@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <,Weird that you consider that more irritating than all the To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 10:24 am Subject: (no subject) mike coleman writes: > What's _REALLY_ annoying and even more of a perplexion (just go with it), is the cattle mutilation problem we have in the USA. Weird that you consider that more irritating than all the anal probing. FoFP - he University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in cotland, with registration number SC005336. From stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Jan 19 14:53:25 2010 From: stewartbas at AOL.COM (stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:53:25 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: NIK: In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001190558q49741b79k9b4eb7e0db0634ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 8:58 am Subject: (OFF)Re: NIK: On 1/19/10, hope wrote: > Not very intelligent of those aliens to crash in the US, then. And not > very > considerate of them not to come and clean up their mess. > > ;-) hat's _REALLY_ annoying and even more of a perplexion (just go with it), s the cattle mutilation problem we have in the USA. his is a greater mystery than the UFO phenomena, though many of us feel the are connected, and the bastards don't seem to care that chucking back the arcasses scares us. 'm suggesting signs with flashing lights attempting to teach them peoper ttiquete/manners, and also a depiction of a farmhouse with a circle and a lash so they don't do it too close to people. utialtions can occur in a single moment right outside your bedroom window if you're a farmer), and you hear nothing. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 20 06:05:11 2010 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:05:11 GMT Subject: Fwd: HW: making myself useful and slapping Trev In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:50:28 -0600 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 20 07:29:42 2010 From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:29:42 +0000 Subject: HW: making myself useful and slapping Trev In-Reply-To: <201001201105.o0KB5BcN005494@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I've done a google and found out a bit more. It's due out on 15 March 2010 and an EMI release, which means it'll probably be legitimate and should be widely available. So far only found this site taking online preorders: http://www.spincds.com/product.asp?id=9023141 Ed > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:05:11 +0000 > From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK > Subject: Re: Fwd: HW: making myself useful and slapping Trev > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > mike coleman writes: > > > *all thanks to Wilfried Shuesler for this!!* > > > > CD SERVICES NEWS > > 40 - 42 BRANTWOOD AVE DUNDEE DD3 6EW UK > > Telephone: (+44) 0 1382 776595 / Fax: (+44) 0 1382 776595 > > E-Mail: orders at cd-services.com or info at cd-services.com > > On-Line Stores: www.cd-services.com > > > > In this message... Here is an updated version of the posting we made > > earlier today, with some additional text detail and the Cover Art for the > > pending release of 'Hawkwind at the BBC-1972 Double Disc Set... > > > > HAWKWIND: HAWKWIND AT THE BBC-1972 (2CD - Mono+Stereo Mixes & Sessions - > > Stock # T1281594) 2CD ?13.99 > > Legendary space-rock outfit Hawkwind have maintained an extremely loyal fan > > base and amassed 14 Top-40 albums throughout the 5 decades they've been > > active. Their re-issues continue to sell well, with the last 'live' album > > re-issued on EMI - 2007's 'Space Ritual' - selling 5k units OTC to date. > > 'Hawkwind At The BBC-1972' captures the band just after the surprise of the > > UK no. 3 hit single in July with the classic: 'Silver Machine', and before > > their 'live' experience: 'Space Ritual' which was recorded on tour later > > that same year. > > Whilst the bulk of this Double CD release is made up of the 'live' set > > recorded for the BBC In Concert programme, it opens with a previously > > unreleased session recorded for Johnnie Walker featuring a shortened version > > of the 'Doremi Fasol Latido' album classic: 'Brainstorm' and a version of > > the then hit single: 'Silver Machine', featuring Lemmy on vocals, as per the > > single. > > I have the transcription disc for this. The show is listed as "Brian > Matthews". > > FoFP > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. _________________________________________________________________ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jan 20 09:17:42 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:17:42 -0500 Subject: HW: making myself useful and slapping Trev In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001191150w64efb871wc11e4994e929d63c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Is this the Chinese Year of the Re-issue or something? Between the AromHenge releases and stuff like this, it's a good thing I'm not behind on my mortgage... ;-) Steve On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:50 PM, mike coleman wrote: > *all thanks to Wilfried Shuesler for this!!* > > CD SERVICES NEWS > 40 - 42 BRANTWOOD AVE ? DUNDEE ? DD3 6EW ? UK > Telephone: (+44) 0 1382 776595 / Fax: (+44) 0 1382 776595 > E-Mail: orders at cd-services.com or info at cd-services.com > On-Line Stores: www.cd-services.com > > In this message... ?Here is an updated version of the posting we made > earlier today, with some additional text detail and the Cover Art for the > pending release of 'Hawkwind at the BBC-1972 Double Disc Set... > > HAWKWIND: HAWKWIND AT THE BBC-1972 (2CD - Mono+Stereo Mixes & Sessions - > Stock # T1281594) 2CD ?13.99 > Legendary space-rock outfit Hawkwind have maintained an extremely loyal fan > base and amassed 14 Top-40 albums throughout the 5 decades they've been > active. Their re-issues continue to sell well, with the last 'live' album > re-issued on EMI - 2007's 'Space Ritual' - selling 5k units OTC to date. > 'Hawkwind At The BBC-1972' captures the band just after the surprise of the > UK no. 3 hit single in July with the classic: 'Silver Machine', and before > their 'live' experience: 'Space Ritual' which was recorded on tour later > that same year. > Whilst the bulk of this Double CD release is made up of the 'live' set > recorded for the BBC In Concert programme, it opens with a previously > unreleased session recorded for Johnnie Walker featuring a shortened version > of the 'Doremi Fasol Latido' album classic: 'Brainstorm' and a version of > the then hit single: 'Silver Machine', featuring Lemmy on vocals, as per the > single. > The In Concert itself, a hypnotic continuous performance, is presented in > both MONO and STEREO versions. The Mono version was previously released by > Windsong on CD in 1991 and has now been Remastered and Re-Indexed to include > all of the pieces originally performed, and the concert itself in its > entirety. > The Stereo version has long been in the domain of the bootleggers as an > off-air recording known the as "Broadcast" version. This mix was in fact > distributed by the BBC for broadcast internationally and features an edited: > 'Brainstorm', missing approximately 4 minutes from the front of the song, a > shorter: 'Welcome To The Future' and 'Electronic No. 1' (not indexed on the > previous CD release), but a longer 'Countdown' introduction. Officially > released for the first time, apart from being in Stereo, the sound quality > is superior to the Mono version and the mix is generally more exciting. > Whilst the CD racks and on-line listings are full of unofficial and poor > Hawkwind 'live' recordings, this set is a prime chunk of space rock from the > band at the peak of their powers and is an essential addition to the band's > huge discography. > Track List - CD1: > 01. ? ? Brainstorm [Mono - Johnnie Walker Radio 1 session] * Previously > Unreleased * > 02. ? ? Silver Machine [Mono - Johnnie Walker Radio 1 session] * Previously > Unreleased * > 03. ? ? Countdown [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] > 04. ? ? Born To Go [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] > 05. ? ? Black Corridor [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] > 06. ? ? Seven By Seven [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] > 07. ? ? Brainstorm [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] > 08. ? ? Electronic No. 1 [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] ?* Previously Unreleased * > 09. ? ? Master Of The Universe [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] > 10. ? ? Paranoia [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] > 11. ? ? Earth Calling [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] > 12. ? ? Silver Machine [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] > 13. ? ? Welcome To The Future [Mono Mix - Live at the Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] > Track List - CD2: > 01. ? ? Countdown [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * > Previously Unreleased * > 02. ? ? Born To Go [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * > Previously Unreleased * > 03. ? ? Black Corridor [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] > * Previously Unreleased * > 04. ? ? Seven By Seven [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] > * Previously Unreleased * > 05. ? ? Brainstorm [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * > Previously Unreleased * > 06. ? ? Electronic No. 1 [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * > 07. ? ? Master Of The Universe [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * > 08. ? ? Paranoia [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * > Previously Unreleased * > 09. ? ? Earth Calling [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] * > Previously Unreleased * > 10. ? ? Silver Machine [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London 28-09-1972] > * Previously Unreleased * > 11. ? ? Welcome To The Future [Stereo Mix - Live Paris Theatre, London > 28-09-1972] * Previously Unreleased * > > For technical reasons this title is not yet available from our on-line shop, > however, as an existing CDS customer, ordering it NOW could not be easier! > Simply press your 'Reply' key (some e-mail clients require you to highlight > the text you wish to copy first), then 'Send' the e-mail back to us. > Alternatively, just copy & paste the Artist & Title line into a fresh e-mail > and send it to orders at cd-services.com . > If you reply from the e-mail address we sent this info to, you don't even > need to type out your address details or customer number on your return > order, as we can pick up all the details we need from your e-mail address. > Some customers still like to Telephone or Fax their orders in, so these > options are still open to you to use, but remember if you use the Fax > option, please include your customer number or post-code to enable us to > locate your account quickly, plus, if necessary, any update to your credit > card details. > If your last order was a credit card transaction, and you wish to use a new > credit card, of if you think the credit card details on your CDS account may > be out of date, please contact us to refresh the data; otherwise we do not > need this information to process your order. > Please note: If you paid your last order by cheque or postal-order, you can > still send the e-mail back to reserve the items you want, and we will send > the goods once your payment has arrived. > > Please remember that CD Services does not charge your credit card until the > day your order is shipped out to you, so placing a pre-order on new releases > cost you nothing, and often allows you to take advantage of any pre-release > deal price we may be offering on some items. > > PRICES quoted are in UK Pounds (?) only, and all are inclusive of V.A.T. at > the standard UK rate of 17.5%. > (Non EEC Customers that are exempt from paying UK taxes should divide the > quoted prices by 1.175 to calculate the V.A.T. free prices they will pay). > All PRICES are subject to change without prior notice. > > POSTAGE RATES are as per normal CDS rates for this item in your area in the > world. > > The CD Services Team. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jan 20 09:39:33 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:39:33 -0600 Subject: Fwd: HW: making myself useful and slapping Trev In-Reply-To: <201001201105.o0KB5BcN005494@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 1/20/10, M Holmes wrote I have the transcription disc for this. The show is listed as "Brian Matthews". FoFP "Brian Matthews, Jack Daniels, Johnnie Walker"........all good note that it's _scotch_ isn't it delicious?? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jan 20 09:54:20 2010 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:54:20 -0600 Subject: Bouchard Brothers Message-ID: last night looking a little further into Damon's Edge's EX, of whose name I borrowed to take a poke at Madonna (NOT STEVE), I discovered that both of the Bouchard brothers played on one of her records a couple years ago kewl!!~ any comments about this appreciated From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jan 22 10:58:39 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:58:39 +0000 Subject: (OFF) RF, still is- Re: NIK: (was: Re: HW observation) In-Reply-To: <8CC66572DC00653-2050-8C22@webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > I was in a Plague Metal band called Dysentery Parlour and our album ( > ***K'in Abysmal) smelt of poo. I probably don't actually want the answer to this question, but, how did you do this? Was it like a more coprolitical version of `every copy signed by the band' or what? Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jan 22 11:05:02 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:05:02 +0000 Subject: NIK: In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001181253n498f8926pe75cca9b40d34d34@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > If man is involved I will torture it and spit at it's maker > better record a new abbreviated title > > On 1/18/10, trev wrote: >> You need GOD >> >> So does everyone on this list, so you'd better buy GOD AND MAN to be safe >> >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#judge-trev Actually, the other thing I've so far bought from the Cherry Red reissue series apart from the Hawkwind ones I mentioned was Man's _Maximum Darkness_ and they've done a grand job with that too. Deke Leonard's sleeve notes are quality, and the sound is fine, plus two bonus tracks where you can actually hear Cippolina play as well, one being a twenty-minute version of `Come On'. I was quite pleased with that for the money, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jan 22 11:24:33 2010 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:24:33 +0000 Subject: Fwd: HW: making myself useful and slapping Trev In-Reply-To: <17d80c611001191150w64efb871wc11e4994e929d63c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, mike coleman wrote: > CD SERVICES NEWS > 40 - 42 BRANTWOOD AVE DUNDEE DD3 6EW UK > Telephone: (+44) 0 1382 776595 / Fax: (+44) 0 1382 776595 > E-Mail: orders at cd-services.com or info at cd-services.com > On-Line Stores: www.cd-services.com > For technical reasons this title is not yet available from our on-line shop, > however, as an existing CDS customer, ordering it NOW could not be easier! My gods, have they *still* not taken possession of their own damn website? It's been *years*. Slightly shocked, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM Fri Jan 22 14:18:56 2010 From: lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM (The Baron) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:18:56 -0500 Subject: Hw: Re: Strange Hawkwind Message-ID: So I dragged this old thread up because I just discovered this cd. I've gotta say, I could see how some would hate it if not a lounge jazz lover, but since I love lounge jazz I loved this cd. You can listen to the whole CD on Lala.com From lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM Fri Jan 22 14:21:06 2010 From: lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM (The Baron) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:21:06 -0500 Subject: Hw: Re: Strange Hawkwind Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:18:56 -0500, The Baron wrote: >So I dragged this old thread up because I just discovered this cd. >I've gotta say, I could see how some would hate it if not a lounge jazz >lover, but since I love lounge jazz I loved this cd. >You can listen to the whole CD on Lala.com Well that didn't work. From lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM Fri Jan 22 14:23:24 2010 From: lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM (The Baron) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:23:24 -0500 Subject: Strange Hawkwind Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:40:35 +0100, bernhard.pospiech wrote: >H i Folks, > >listen to the samles on this link: > >http://www.7digital.com/artists/the-buddha-lounge-ensemble/buddha-lounge-ren >ditions-of-hawkwind/ > > > > >cheers >Bernhard > This is the one that was supposed to post. From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Fri Jan 22 21:11:03 2010 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 21:11:03 -0500 Subject: Strange Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My problem with this is that the samples stop just short of where I anticipate some really annoying vocals are going to ruin the song. I don't want to hear the rest of that QS&C rendition with that guy singing like that. I don't like it, but really wonder if they all get ruined that way because the music's kind of good otherwise. If I knew that guy wasn't going to ruin Urban Guerilla I'd definitely buy it for 79p as long as there's no bullshit about registering with that site or anything. (Really touchy about lyrics, myself, esp. something about the forced accents and stuff that seem to be popular now-a-days nothing pisses me off more than knowing i'd really like something if not for some irritating singer, and to make matters worse I don't even know how to describe vocals in an intelligent way, I have no technical vocabulary that's reliable. I wish I could find some treatise on these singers who piss me off that could articulate my frustration. ---Anyone ever heard of Electric 6? That's the best example I have. A friend sold me onto their first album and I bought it, because $7 and I specialize in high voltage, nuclear war. I mean, I really do. I really liked the sounds coming from the instruments, And it's good to find current pop music that I can sort of identify with, and I listened to the CD abunch of times before it got stolen, but had to grit my teeth and try hard to ignore the absolute suck of the vocalist(s), the first guy sounding like he was eating cheeseburgers or something while singing, then the second vocalist on DANGER HIGH VOLTAGE was a prancing falsetto , whatever thing I wish they could edit out in a remix. I heard (back up singer) was the guy from The White Stripes, whom I hate. Then I went to see them live without that idiot where ever he's from, and good riddance, I could finally hear the song without that shrill "you-have-to-be-constantly-aware-of-my-point-i'm-really trying to getting-across-that-i'm-a-prissy-homosexual because it makes the song more entertaining somehow" antic, and I believe the band looked like they were just plowing through cocaine backstage and in between performances.) On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, The Baron wrote: > On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:40:35 +0100, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > >H i Folks, > > > >listen to the samles on this link: > > > > > http://www.7digital.com/artists/the-buddha-lounge-ensemble/buddha-lounge-ren > >ditions-of-hawkwind/ > > > > > > > > > >cheers > >Bernhard > > > > > This is the one that was supposed to post. > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Sat Jan 23 05:52:52 2010 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:52:52 +0800 Subject: Strange Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Message-ID: :) If Claude Challe did Hawlwind! I have those files. They all sound almost the same-- I don''t play them much! 2010/1/23 The Baron > On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:40:35 +0100, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > >H i Folks, > > > >listen to the samles on this link: > > > > > http://www.7digital.com/artists/the-buddha-lounge-ensemble/buddha-lounge-ren > >ditions-of-hawkwind/ > > > > > > > > > >cheers > >Bernhard > > > > > This is the one that was supposed to post. > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Jan 23 14:02:48 2010 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:02:48 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Astral Visions & Space Does Not Care Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JANUARY 23, 2010: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've uploaded new shows from Astral Visions Radio (show #3), and Space Does Not Care (show #22). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Astral Visions Radio: Suomi Special - Psychotropic Caravan II Festival Special (show #3) The Psychotropic Caravan II Festival will take place in Helsinki, Finland on February 5 & 6, 2010 For more information visit www.myspace.com/psycaravan Astral Visions Radio Show - Music from Psychotropic Zone, is hosted by DJ Astro Litmus ? "Sonic Light" (from You Are Here) Semtex ? "Loading Up" (from Pot Secret) The Heads ? "Cardinal Fuzz" (from Tilburg) Mr. Peter Hayden ? "47 Eyes in My Mind Every Night..." (from Orbit:Orbit split 10" with Galacticka) Tuliter? ? "All-seeing Delirium" (from Alpha) Orange Goblin ? "Some You Win Some You Lose" (from Thieving From The House of God) Temples - "The Dying Nomad" (from Demo 09) Pharaoh Overlord - "Octacon" (from #3) Big Naturals & The Heads - "Different Without But The Same Within" (from Rituals Volume 2) Litmus ? "Lost Stations" (from Planet Fall) Semtex ? "Sin C Milla" (from Pot Secret) The Heads ? "Spliff Riff" (from The Time Is Now!) Mr. Peter Hayden - "Smoke in Space (sample fragment)" (from forthcoming album) Orange Goblin - "Lazy Mary" (from Thieving From The House of God) Temples - "Kingston D??l II" (from Tallentumia Reh. Jam 09) Litmus ? "In The Burning Light" (from Aurora) The Heads ? "Widow Maker" (from Tilburg) Orange Goblin ? "Cities of Frost" (from Healing Through Fire) Pharaoh Overlord ? "Live 19.01.10 (Excerpt)" (unreleased) Space Does Not Care (show #22) Chuck Rosenberg did a radio show dubbed "Space Does Not Care" from 1999-2003 at KUCR out of Riverside, CA, which streamed on-line for most of that time. The format of the new online version of Space Does Not Care is secured by Chuck under the umbrella of Psych/Space/Kraut/Electro/Indie/Folk/Noise-rock. HAWKWIND - "This Is Your Capt. Speaking" (from V/A Greasy Truckers) HAWKWIND - "Brainstorm" (from Space Ritual/Space Ritual 2) HAWKWIND - "The Awakening" (from V/A Greasy Truckers) AMORPHOUS ADROGYNOUS - "Riders (On the Circadian Rhythms)/Yantra/Tiny Space Birds" (from The Peppermint Tree - FSOLDigital) FLOWCHART - "Rain Boa Bye" (from Cumulus Mood Twang - Carrot Top) BANCO de GAIA - "White Paint" (from Live At Glastonbury - Planet Dog) DEFENDER - "Def D'n'B" (from CD-R) DEERHOOF - "Dummy Discards A Heart" (from Apple O' - Kill Rock Stars) DEERHOOF - "Giga Dance" (from Milk Man - AllTomorrow'sParties/5 Rue Constantine) GUILD NAVIGATORS - "Red Vision 7" (from CD-R) LIGHTNING BOLT - "Fleeing The Valley Of Whirling Knives"(from ST'd - Load) SCHEMA - "Echolalia... Curvilinear" (from ST'd - 5RC) ESCAPADE - "Moving in Limbo" (from Inner Translucence - Mother West) F/i - "The Ninth Corner" (from Paradise Out Here - Lexicon Devil) CUJO - "The Method" (from Adventures In Foam - Ninja Tune) WOOB - "10 Ton Laboratory" (from V/A More Bass Than Space - Dubmission) FFWD - "Klangtest" (from ST'd - Inter-Modo) HEAVENLY MUSIC CORP. - "Sphereless/Xmorphia" (from Anechoic - Silent) EXIT TERRA - "Next Phase Pt 2"(from ST'd - Riverside) SHALABI EFFECT - "On the Bowery" (from ST'd - Alien8) http://Aural-Innovations.com From lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jan 27 12:47:57 2010 From: lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM (The Baron) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:47:57 -0500 Subject: Strange Hawkwind Message-ID: The vocals are a bit annoying. I can see this not getting played all that much, more a novelty, but I like it anyway. Speaking of great musical cd's that are totally ruined by vocals, that one release by Simon House would have been great if all instrumentals, but it is unlistenable with that dude singing, whoever he is. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Fri Jan 29 17:56:25 2010 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:56:25 -0500 Subject: BOC: double reference related to winter Message-ID: http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/10-things-that-happened-the-last-time-britain-froze/ see numbers 3 and 10. From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Jan 30 09:14:41 2010 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:14:41 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind, Syd ( LMPTBB ) & Pink Fairies: Corn Exchange Message-ID: Check out this exceelent article and mp3 file: http://www.nsblog.co.uk/FraKcman/131/ Fascinating to me the Fred Frith was on guitar with the 'Last Minute Put Together Boogie Band'...Cheers! Mike _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft?s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Sun Jan 31 17:04:34 2010 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:04:34 -0500 Subject: BOC: double reference related to winter In-Reply-To: <201001292256.o0TMuST4024541@outbound1.logical.net> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Jason Scruton wrote: > http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/10-things-that-happened-the-last-time-britain-froze/ > > see numbers 3 and 10. > Anvil are mainstream darlings? What did I miss? Steve From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sun Jan 31 17:08:50 2010 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:08:50 -0500 Subject: BOC: double reference related to winter In-Reply-To: <919e368d1001311404v39aa88d9od841bc2a03773b72@mail.gmail.co m> Message-ID: Just the documentary that made the rounds in the independent film distribution circuit. It was really quite good. Now available on DVD. http://www.anvilthemovie.com/ At 05:04 PM 1/31/2010, you wrote: >On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Jason Scruton wrote: > > > http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/10-things-that-happened-the-last-time-britain-froze/ > > > > see numbers 3 and 10. > > > >Anvil are mainstream darlings? What did I miss? > >Steve From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Sun Jan 31 20:24:19 2010 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:24:19 -0800 Subject: HW: Hawkwind playing at Burg Herzberg '10? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Folks... I don't see any notice of this on hawkwind.com, but at the official Burg Herzberg (central Germany) page, they have Hawkwind listed among the expected performers at this year's festival on July 15-18. Can anyone confirm this via connections to the band/management as it were? Thanks... Grakkl