From nonemoreblack at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 1 05:05:31 2009 From: nonemoreblack at HOTMAIL.COM (SUBSCRIBE BOC-L Nonemoreblack) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 05:05:31 -0400 Subject: Porchester, Hawkfans galore Message-ID: Pleasure to meet you Steve, and thanks for the keyring. I'm Jon, we talked quite a lot about Joy Division, The Sisters Of Mercy, and how my personal circumstances topped even yours! From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Tue Sep 1 05:30:57 2009 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 04:30:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Porchester Message-ID: It's 3AM and the the Jet lag has me wide awake. Porchester was a fantastic weekend. It was lovely to see everyone again, and to meet new folk. This was intended to be a party, and thats what it was. A gathering of friends from all over the world enjoying the music we all love. There were many highlights for me. Musically, to finally hear Fahrenheit 451 live (twice), also 'You'd Better Believe It' which I have never heard a better version of in all my years as a Hawkfan. I liked the new songs. Everyone in the band looked Happy. Tim played some fabulous Theremin, and was really givin it some with the Keytar/Virtual Axe out front. I thought Captain Rizz worked out very well for the middle section of Assassins/Hassan, although not so much for Spirit of the Age ;-) Spirit felt a little untogether on Friday, but Sauturday it was dead on. Dave playing Harmonica however briefly was alone worth the price of admission :-) 'Mirror of Illusion' and 'Green Finned Demon' were a pleasure. I totally disagree with some of the earlier comments about Huw, I think he was great on the Saturday, with various band members guesting on different tracks (Tim playing Harmonica!!!) and Marion on board to keep him flying. He still looks frail, but he belonged there, and I was very happy to see him. (Pause for Extreme Fanboy Moment) Toby Marks!!! Banco De Gaia. Toby was DJing some great chill/spacey stuff all weekend, which was fantastic, specially Saturday afternoon. If you haven't heard any 'Banco De Gaia' albums, please go and check them out. 'Maya' the first proper album (after his early tape stuff) is a good place to start, then 'Last Train to Lhasa' Toby is exploring some of his influences on the new album 'Memories Dreams Reflections' including covers of Floyd, King Crimson, and Hawkwind. His 22 minute version of Floyds 'Echoes' is bloody great. Normally I'm quite shy about introducing myself, but I went over the DJ booth and had my fanboy moment with Toby :-) (End Extreme Fanboy Moment) Clive From 'Dr. and the Medics' was a smashing MC for the Friday gig. Richards Badger puppet spouting about Death Metal, in the Q and A session. Hilarious. Thanks to Kris, Dave, and everyone involved for a great weekend. Rich W. From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Tue Sep 1 06:22:20 2009 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 05:22:20 -0500 Subject: HW: Banco De Gaia Photos From Porchester Message-ID: http://tiny.cc/qzypW Toby linked some photos of him on stage at porchester, mostly from the side of the stage. Rich W From steve.bishop at DB.COM Tue Sep 1 07:03:16 2009 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:03:16 +0100 Subject: Porchester - Saturday In-Reply-To: <4A9CF5DC.1020805@comcast.net> Message-ID: OK, well time to add my tuppence worth ! I joined the fantastic Hawkwalk with Jimski, Ashman, Steve Swann, Jill, Mike, Mrs Smith et al and had a great morning chatting to some very nice, personable and friendly like-minded Hawkfans (thanks for telling me I looked a bit 'normal' for a Hawkfan Mrs Smith !!) which was a perfect start to the day ........ got to the venue which was pretty quiet to start, ok the 'ale' wasn't on tap to start with (and at various times of the afternoon) but there was cider, lager and guinness as alternatives and I'm not that fussy as long as it's alcoholic so i wasn't too unhappy .......... got in an early order for the chili con carne and sat with Steve S, Jill and Mike to polish it off quickly before the 'Elves' set - and have to say food was fine tho could have done with being bit bigger ! Elves set was excellent, thoroughly enjoyed TOSH too for a bit of blanga tho I think the mix wasn't set up quite right IMHO ........Tarantism I missed cos I decided to soak up some alcohol with fish n chips from down the road, the Whoopee band was a good laugh, Huw was the same Huw we're used to from Xmas gigs and then Hawkwind played what I thought was a storming set ...... i think Dibs is getting better n better, i've always liked him, he's very approachable, finds time to chat with everyone and seems to be relaxing into his role ....Niall was brill, I was at the front and could really hear his guitar this time, (thought he was way too low in the mix at the Astoria (my last HW gig) so nice to hear what he adds) ...... rest of the team were their usual excellent selves, DB's lead especially good, standout track for me was You'd Better Believe it ....... Freebies were most welcome, nice to be able to buy commemorative shirt too. All in all a thoroughly great day, especially for the low price, they could have really 'milked' the occasion and charged a tenner more - and we'd all have paid it too ! I guess the only slight 'downer' for me is that when we're told that there'll be 'special guests' we all kinda assume it'll be some ex-band members so I was hopeful of that - tho I was secretly hoping that maybe Mr Clapton would pass thru (he did send a message instead !). Great day, great value, great band - and great fans to meet which was almost the best part for me. Big thanks to Kris and the band Sid --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Sep 1 07:35:28 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:35:28 -0400 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: <465D2EDD-60A3-4825-BCDA-BD04A0EABCA1@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 31 Aug 2009, at 15:06, Mick Crook wrote: > Dave playing a Les Paul -Yeeeessss!!! I believe Dave started using a Gibson Les Paul Custom round about 2004. (I think he started using a Line6 Pod about the same time -- blasphemy for guitar purists, of course, but Dave is not exactly one of those. :)) I guess Buck Dharma isn't one either. He's been using a POD for many years... tj From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 1 07:42:41 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:42:41 -0400 Subject: Porchester, Hawkfans galore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon! Glad you wrote, I was trying to draw up a list of the people I talked to, and realizing that my infernally awful memory was already conflating those who were on BOC-L, vs the yahoo list, or even just other Hawkwind fans who don't do the online thing at all... Pleasure to meet you (again). Steve On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:05 AM, SUBSCRIBE BOC-L Nonemoreblack wrote: > Pleasure to meet you Steve, and thanks for the keyring. I'm Jon, we talked > quite a lot about Joy Division, The Sisters Of Mercy, and how my personal > circumstances topped even yours! > From converging_spirals at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 1 08:20:14 2009 From: converging_spirals at YAHOO.COM (Samantha Fitzpatrick) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 05:20:14 -0700 Subject: First vid of Porchester opening song sequence In-Reply-To: <919e368d0908311957s71ce6938udf27ed718771a741@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the link. ...A nice rendition of 'Where are They Now' at the end..? good harmonies. Sam.. --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: First vid of Porchester opening song sequence To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 2:57 AM http://www.youtube.com/user/4GC This vid was clearly shot in low light mode, because the band looks more brightly lit and the background video projections far more washed out than it looked in person.? I wish the contributor had left the Warrior poem at the beginning of this.? But it captures the sound fairly well for something obviously shot from a handheld. Watch it quick, the band may make the contributor take it down since they've got a pro video in the works. Steve From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 1 09:34:43 2009 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:34:43 -0400 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show Message-ID: Ah, it pains me to comment on this thread, but unfortunately it appears that an excellent BOC show is not the lock that it used to be. The last BOC show I was at was early 2008 and it was absolutely fantastic (they pulled out lots of old chestnuts), and I know they did a very well-received fans-only show last November. But based on setlists I've seen of many recent shows, I can understand fans frustration. It would seem based on the setlists that Eric's ability to sing has been diminished - this happened back in the late 90's for a year or so when he only sang 2 or 3 songs (and "E.T.I." was more "rapped", then sung). He "came back" after that, and the band added Eric-belting songs like "Astronomy" and "Take Me Away" back in the setlist. Unfortunately we're back to a mostly Buck-sung setlist (nothing wrong with Buck's vocals, and it's cool to get some otherwise unheard tunes like "Shooting Shark", "Perfect Water", and "I Love the Night" (all 3 verses), but there is something missing without Eric's heavier vocals, and some of the songs that go with them). I'm not sure if Buck's injury that kept the band out of action for 6 months is a factor... However, while they are now "2 Oyster Cult" again, I thought the 3 "other guys" added a good deal of energy to their line-up. Jules is an excellent drummer, Richie is possibly the most musically talented of all of them (Heaven Forbid!!), and Rudy Szarzo needs no introduction. Finally, we can opine whether or not BOC has anything left to offer, but I'd turn this around - what demand motivates them to do anything other than what they're doing? They're playing for a paycheck and (hopefully) they still enjoy what they are doing, but other than a (diminishing) base of hardcore fans that still hope they might breakout the setlist from *On Your Feet or on Your Knees* (and a few even more disillusioned fans that think the original line-up might still play together some day), what motivation to they have to do anything different? Keep "living in the pocket of the moment", John PS: I thought *Heaven Forbid* and *Curse of the Hidden Mirror* were excellent albums - understandably though, the demand from the audiences (who are aging as fast as most of the band) is not that great. > -----Original Message----- > From: Theodore O Jackson [mailto:tjackson at SYR.EDU] > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:42 PM > Subject: Re: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show > > I guess 2?C must still be making some money out of playing the county > fairs with the puppet shows, since I can't think of why else they are > doing it. > > > Yah, if not for the 'Taste of Peoria' type shows and Indian > casinos, I guess 2?C would be out of business... > > > > The last time I saw any incarnation of the band (in London > probably at least 5 years ago!), Alan was still aboard to make it > 3?C, but other than Buck (and, actually, Alan) still being able to > crank out some cool guitar, it was pretty clear that there was > nothing really going on. Honestly, Eric's recent "Hamtouchers" > Warhammer song was more fun than most of "Curse of the Hidden Mirror" > -- and what's the likelihood of 2?C being able to crank out an album > better than _Harvest Moon_ (which at least had a pretty decent title > track, > > Heaven Forbid? But yeah, Harvest Moon is a truly great song. > I guess they probably quit doing it live a while back, which > is too bad as it was one of their best songs live... > > > > for all that it was a retread of something Buck wrote in the > 80s) or _CotHM_? Slight, is my lamentable prediction -- in which > case, what's the point? > > Though I can understand a band that doesn't produce a lot of new > material but delivers ripping, amazing live performances .... it's > not like 2?C seem to be doing that anyway. :/ Maybe they figure that > they are now so low on the radar that they can just run the name into > the ground with no harm done? I dunno .... > > > Yah, sounds about right. Besides they're at a good age to retire. > Do a couple more years of municipal festivals and call it a day. > Well, you can always spin Secret Treaties any time ya want... > > > tj From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 1 09:58:24 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:58:24 -0700 Subject: First vid of Porchester opening song sequence Message-ID: Isn't it gorgeous? That's a song that I always thought it seemed a little lost amongst the Hawks catalog, too contemplative to stand up to the stormers that you might put it next to in a setlist. But make it the lead-out from Golden Void and all of a sudden it comes into its own as a beautiful melancholy/poetic number, just heartbreakingly perfect. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Samantha Fitzpatrick Date: Tuesday, Sep 1, 2009 8:22 am Subject: Re: First vid of Porchester opening song sequence To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Thanks for the link. ..A nice rendition of 'Where are They Now' at the end..? good harmonies. Sam.. --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: First vid of Porchester opening song sequence To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 2:57 AM http://www.youtube.com/user/4GC This vid was clearly shot in low light mode, because the band looks more brightly lit and the background video projections far more washed out than it looked in person.? I wish the contributor had left the Warrior poem at the beginning of this.? But it captures the sound fairly well for something obviously shot from a handheld. Watch it quick, the band may make the contributor take it down since they've got a pro video in the works. Steve From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Sep 1 10:32:16 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:32:16 -0400 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah, it pains me to comment on this thread, Me too. 'I come here to bury B?C, not praise them...' but unfortunately it appears that an excellent BOC show is not the lock that it used to be. The last BOC show I was at was early 2008 and it was absolutely fantastic (they pulled out lots of old chestnuts), and I know they did a very well-received fans-only show last November. Thing is, the quality of the playing is now essentially immaterial, as Buck is the only instrumentalist from the original band remaining, Eric's occasional rhythm guitar notwithstanding. The hired guys may play great, but so what? It isn't the BAND anymore... But based on setlists I've seen of many recent shows, I can understand fans frustration. It would seem based on the setlists that Eric's ability to sing has been diminished And, he wasn't all that great a singer before. Great frontman, though, and generally, that's enough... - this happened back in the late 90's for a year or so when he only sang 2 or 3 songs (and "E.T.I." was more "rapped", then sung). He "came back" after that, and the band added Eric-belting songs like "Astronomy" and "Take Me Away" back in the setlist. Unfortunately we're back to a mostly Buck-sung setlist (nothing wrong with Buck's vocals, and it's cool to get some otherwise unheard tunes like "Shooting Shark", "Perfect Water", and "I Love the Night" (all 3 verses), but there is something missing without Eric's heavier vocals, and some of the songs that go with them). Yes, Eric sets the tone for the band. Buck just doesn't convey the same humorous sense of mystery... I'm not sure if Buck's injury that kept the band out of action for 6 months is a factor... However, while they are now "2 Oyster Cult" again, I thought the 3 "other guys" added a good deal of energy to their line-up. Jules is an excellent drummer, Richie is possibly the most musically talented of all of them (Heaven Forbid!!), and Rudy Szarzo needs no introduction. Nope, but they're just a bunch of 'other guys.' I grew up with B?C the band... Finally, we can opine whether or not BOC has anything left to offer, Not really what I'm trying to say. Buck is always brilliant live, and he'll always be one of my favorite guitarists. It's still great to see a guy play like that even if you need a scorecard to tell who's in the band anymore... but I'd turn this around - what demand motivates them to do anything other than what they're doing? They're playing for a paycheck and (hopefully) they still enjoy what they are doing, but other than a (diminishing) base of hardcore fans that still hope they might breakout the setlist from *On Your Feet or on Your Knees* (and a few even more disillusioned fans that think the original line-up might still play together some day), what motivation to they have to do anything different? Yah, we have to realize that they are professional musicians who make a living from playing. They are just doing their jobs... Keep "living in the pocket of the moment", John PS: I thought *Heaven Forbid* and *Curse of the Hidden Mirror* were excellent albums - understandably though, the demand from the audiences (who are aging as fast as most of the band) is not that great. Yep, I liked them both too. Good to hear some stuff a little different from them. No band can keep going over the same ground. Those 2 CDs were great because the band resisted the urge to copy old stuff. Then again, some of the new material was pretty lame too. I doubt half the songs on those 2 discs could have made the cut for a CD in the old days... tj From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 1 11:14:38 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:14:38 -0500 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E8224E93607@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On 01 Sep 2009, at 06:35, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > I guess Buck Dharma isn't one either. He's been using a > POD for many years... Has he? I didn't know .... Well, frankly, for the gigging musician who perhaps doesn't have a pile of roadies and techies at one's beck and all, those things are pretty handy. You plug in, run out to the PA, and you're done. The audience, insofar as they care at all, probably subconsciously appreciate the fact that you've got trouble-free sound more than they might appreciate the use of a "real" amp! Cheer,s Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Tue Sep 1 11:24:44 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:24:44 +0100 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: A<401E8A37-F923-41ED-90B5-693DE9CE83E2@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Buck was certainly using a Pod when they played at the stables a couple of years back, though I did wonder if it was because of the small size of the venue - it ain't really big enough to crank a full rig right up without stunning the ushers into a semi-coma! Chris Warburton Senior Database Administrator Tel: + 44 (0)1582 695463 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: 01 September 2009 16:15 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: 40th anniversary Gig On 01 Sep 2009, at 06:35, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > I guess Buck Dharma isn't one either. He's been using a POD for many > years... Has he? I didn't know .... Well, frankly, for the gigging musician who perhaps doesn't have a pile of roadies and techies at one's beck and all, those things are pretty handy. You plug in, run out to the PA, and you're done. The audience, insofar as they care at all, probably subconsciously appreciate the fact that you've got trouble-free sound more than they might appreciate the use of a "real" amp! Cheer,s Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you are not one of the intended recipients, or this email is received in error, please immediately either notify the sender or contact UBM Aviation on +44 (0) 1582 600111 quoting the name of the sender and the email address to which it has been sent and then delete it and any attachment(s). While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, UBM Aviation and its affiliate companies cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your systems, and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. Neither UBM Aviation nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. UBM Aviation may monitor or record outgoing and incoming e-mail to secure effective system operation and for other lawful purposes. By replying to this email you give your consent to such monitoring. Thank you. UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Sep 1 11:36:55 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:36:55 -0400 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: <401E8A37-F923-41ED-90B5-693DE9CE83E2@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 01 Sep 2009, at 06:35, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > I guess Buck Dharma isn't one either. He's been using a > POD for many years... Has he? I didn't know .... Well, frankly, for the gigging musician who perhaps doesn't have a pile of roadies and techies at one's beck and all, those things are pretty handy. You plug in, run out to the PA, and you're done. Yep. I think Buck splits his signal, runs one to the board and another to his stage amps, which are essentially monitors. So, his stage amps aren't just for show--sound actually runs through them--but the preamps don't do anything to create the sound... The audience, insofar as they care at all, probably subconsciously appreciate the fact that you've got trouble-free sound more than they might appreciate the use of a "real" amp! Yah, I have to admit I use modelers sometimes, although I've had glitches with them too. Being I rarely play out these days, I have the luxury of leaving my tube rig at practice, so I can use anything I want, and the modelers stay home for noodling and figuring out stuff... tj From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Sep 1 11:38:44 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:38:44 -0400 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Chris Warburton Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: 40th anniversary Gig Buck was certainly using a Pod when they played at the stables a couple of years back, though I did wonder if it was because of the small size of the venue - it ain't really big enough to crank a full rig right up without stunning the ushers into a semi-coma! Far as I know he's been doing that for a long time, easily 10 years. It gives you a lot of flexibility, and also, since B?C don't transport amps any more, the POD ensures a consistent tone if the rental amps aren't all that, sound-wise... tj From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Tue Sep 1 11:42:53 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:42:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Be Seeing You? In-Reply-To: A<4A8DC1BF.6000506@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: I've been pleasantly surprised by True Blood, and Weeds tickles my funny bone in a way that few other shows have lately - maybe because it actually has a story arc rather than just being the misadventures of a dope-dealing single-mum: It could have been truly awful. It may not be to all tastes, but I've enjoyed 'Entourage' too. Chris Warburton ObCD: The intercontinentals - Bill Frisell -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jerry G Sent: 20 August 2009 22:36 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Be Seeing You? M Holmes wrote: > They've taken the single best ever television series. They've > surgically removed the humour and quirkiness. They've crossed it with > James Bond, Lost and Twin Peaks, and they've explicated it to death. > > There Is No Escape, from bad television: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FqQsaK5KpQ > > FoFP > I just got done renting the HBO series 'True Blood' and ShowTimes 'Weeds'. Maybe it's just me, but they almost have me thinking about getting TV again. This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you are not one of the intended recipients, or this email is received in error, please immediately either notify the sender or contact UBM Aviation on +44 (0) 1582 600111 quoting the name of the sender and the email address to which it has been sent and then delete it and any attachment(s). While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, UBM Aviation and its affiliate companies cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your systems, and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. Neither UBM Aviation nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. UBM Aviation may monitor or record outgoing and incoming e-mail to secure effective system operation and for other lawful purposes. By replying to this email you give your consent to such monitoring. Thank you. UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 1 11:38:31 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:38:31 -0500 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 01 Sep 2009, at 08:34, Swartz, John A. wrote: > Finally, we can opine whether or not BOC has anything left to > offer, but I'd turn this around - what demand motivates them to do > anything other than what they're doing? They're playing for a > paycheck and (hopefully) they still enjoy what they are doing, but > other than a (diminishing) base of hardcore fans that still hope > they might breakout the setlist from *On Your Feet or on Your > Knees* (and a few even more disillusioned fans that think the > original line-up might still play together some day), what > motivation to they have to do anything different? Well, that's just it. I reckon Eric and Buck must be basically satisfied with the ever decreasing spiral, and I'm just disappointed because I _want_ them to have more to offer than that -- if not as B?C, then as something else (either individually or together). But those are just my wants, and of course Eric and Buck have no obligation to respond to such wants. :) (Though, of course, neither have I have any obligation to extend my fandom once the band is failing to cater to my wants!) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Tue Sep 1 11:43:45 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:43:45 +0100 Subject: Be Seeing You? In-Reply-To: A<8CBEFF5E9ED59AA-D60-AF3B@webmail-d015.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It's the "OFF" switch - shame my partner doesn't know it exists! Chris Warburton -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Sent: 20 August 2009 22:40 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Be Seeing You? There is... -----Original Message----- From: Samantha Fitzpatrick To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:36 Subject: Re: Be Seeing You? >There Is No Escape, from bad television: Indeed...! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. 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In-Reply-To: A<200908211203.n7LC3Slv027578@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike, It's on Friday nights, I think it's on the FX channel Chris Warburton Senior Database Administrator Tel: + 44 (0)1582 695463 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 21 August 2009 13:03 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Be Seeing You? Jerry G writes: > M Holmes wrote: > > There Is No Escape, from bad television: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FqQsaK5KpQ > > FoFP > I just got done renting the HBO series 'True Blood' and ShowTimes > 'Weeds'. Maybe it's just me, but they almost have me thinking about > getting TV again. I was a big fan of Weeds. The other hasn't made it here yet. If you want to watch a great series though, try "The Shield" or "Dexter". That's a level of writing that's been very rarely seen in television. 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Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 1 11:44:17 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:44:17 -0500 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E8224E9360A@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On 01 Sep 2009, at 09:32, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > Those 2 CDs were great because > the band resisted the urge to copy old stuff. Then > again, some of the new material was pretty lame too. > I doubt half the songs on those 2 discs could have made > the cut for a CD in the old days... Yeah, HF and CotHM recalled the likes of RbN and CN more than ST or FoUO! I just don't think that their hearts are in it. Or Buck and Eric by themselves can't turn out the necessary volume of good songs. There were more songwriters in or associated with the band back in the day, and taking the best from all of all them was sufficient to produce some quite good albums quite a lot of the time. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Tue Sep 1 11:51:50 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:51:50 +0100 Subject: Off: Be Seeing You? In-Reply-To: A Message-ID: I'll go along with that too, it's a bit cheesy at times, but plenty of mad ideas, and I love the town sheriff as the "everyman" character, who often figures out the obvious that the "mad scientist" types just can't see! Chris Warburton -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: 21 August 2009 20:04 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Be Seeing You? Mary, I can recommend Eureka as half decent sf. Good classic utopian mad science stuff. (Not, mind, necessarily *accurate* science, but definitely mad science :-) ) Arin On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, mary wrote: :Subject: Re: Be Seeing You? : :I've never used my new TV, when my brother drops by, he may, but anything I :want should be on youtube. If there is any half decent science fiction on :local TV I'd like to get names of shows? I do like to stay up to date with :that, but refuse to pay for cable. I have better things to spend my money :on. : :Peace, : :Mary :P.S. In Bab. 5 they adopted the sollute and the phrase "Be seeing you," :among the psi cops. I wish I could watch the original series of The :Prisoner the series with someone, so I could get the finer details :described. I understand it's quite a mind bender. : : :-----Original Message----- :From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List :[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman :Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:10 AM :To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET :Subject: Re: Be Seeing You? : : :(Paul wrote) : :PS: If your gifted TV truly is new, chances are it already has a DTV :> receiver built in to it. Still, keep the coloured markers handy, just in :> case. :> :I was hoping that wasn't going to get pointed out : ).....it in fact does :have _some use_ but not much and of course it is a wonderful scenic upgrade :to the other tiny gifted one..I came up in the world just having it sit :there :I confess I broke down and turned it on yesterday to watch the incredibly :wriitten and acted UFO: TARGET earth, which lead me to be enjoying this :other fun one 'Psychic Killer" that I'm straight in the middle of and "Don't :Go Near The Park" has my curiosity peaked :But I can still make an etch-a-sketch yet :If the quanitiy of UFO related material that I am missing out on starts :piling up on my spirit I was thinking pawn shops.... : -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you are not one of the intended recipients, or this email is received in error, please immediately either notify the sender or contact UBM Aviation on +44 (0) 1582 600111 quoting the name of the sender and the email address to which it has been sent and then delete it and any attachment(s). While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, UBM Aviation and its affiliate companies cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your systems, and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. Neither UBM Aviation nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. UBM Aviation may monitor or record outgoing and incoming e-mail to secure effective system operation and for other lawful purposes. By replying to this email you give your consent to such monitoring. Thank you. UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 1 11:52:55 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:52:55 -0500 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E8224E9360C@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On 01 Sep 2009, at 10:36, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > Yep. I think Buck splits his signal, runs one > to the board and another to his stage amps, > which are essentially monitors. So, his stage > amps aren't just for show--sound actually runs > through them--but the preamps don't do anything > to create the sound... The last time I was gigging anywhere, I did essentially the same thing, though with a SansAmp GT2 (instead of a POD), splitting the signal out to the PA and also to the tiny, dinky (and borrowed!) bass amp that served me as an onstage monitor! :) > Yah, I have to admit I use modelers sometimes, although > I've had glitches with them too. Being I rarely play > out these days, I have the luxury of leaving my > tube rig at practice, so I can use anything I want, > and the modelers stay home for noodling and figuring > out stuff... These days, everything I do is home-recording straight into the computer. I don't even have an amp of any kind, so it's all modellers for me. While it would be fun to mess around with a big ol' tube amp and microphones, I don't think the neighbours (or spouse!) would appreciate it, and the modellers sound just fine for my purposes. Actually, I've become kind of a fan of digital "re- amping", since I can apply all kinds of different amp simulation to the recorded dry signal after the fact. I tend to just slap down a basic guitar sound when recording and then futz around with the amp modelling later, once I have a better idea of how the song is shaping up. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK Tue Sep 1 12:17:36 2009 From: Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 17:17:36 +0100 Subject: [Hawkind] Porchester Saturday Message-ID: My own personal reflection.... (coming out of lurking) Steve Swann might have said >And let me add that the dancers were great. The costumes and the >choreography were well thought out and added to the show. I don't >always think that's so with the various sideshow attractions that >Hawkwind brings onstage with them :-) but this time it really worked. I concur... more foreplanning and choreography was evident than in some of the more recent events. And yes - why not rap to Spirit of the Age - how apt!! Yo! I loved the event - there was a really nice vibe in the hall and as the Hawkwind set progressed during the evening the sound seemed to balance out, any lack of quality (as people have pointed out, due to the wooden panelling) was made up for with some cracking playing on the night & now having the free copy of the promo cd - which I am listening to as I type. Only complaint is I still don't have a decent digital rendition of Brainbox polution - Any chance of releasing it as a single? My greatest recollection of the evening was about half way through 'Right to decide' when my friend, who had never heard Hawkwind before, got completely enraptured with them, started jigging about and then dashed forward in a frenzy to get closer. This is amazing since 1. he's extremly picky about his music, 2. rarely shows emotion, 3. never dances.. and yet for the first time, at 46 years of age - he was smitten. !! Good job guys and thanks for having us. Maxine From andreas.stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Sep 1 12:36:00 2009 From: andreas.stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (andreas.stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:36:00 GMT Subject: Porchester - Saturday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ok, I rarely post anything here, but the party last Saturday was so good that I just have to write down my thoughts. We, that?s me, my wife and her friend, arrived in London on Saturday morning and after having breakfast near Piccadilly in Soho went by bus to Notting Hill Gate. It was great to see some familiar faces and getting to know some more Hawkfans, especially Steve Swann. The Hawkwalk really was very enjoyable, a big thank you to Jim who did a great job showing us all the historical buildings round Portobello Road. Though I?ve been there before I haven?t noticed the "flat block of 2 dimensions" before that inspired both Calvert?s and Ballard?s High Rise. Seeing the houses where Moorcock lived in the 70?s was very inspiring. Wish I had a time machine going back there some 35 years... The 25 page booklet Jim produced is a very interesting read as well, with some photographs of places as they were back then and as they look now. Sorry that I couldn?t make the last part of the tour cos I had to look after my wife and her friend who had some aching feet and sat down at a cafe. Strange that they chose the one that used to be the office where Friends/Frendz magazine was produced ages ago. The personal didn?t knew anything about Frendz though when I asked them. But we did continue the route and got to see Island Record Studios (which had some beautiful graffitis sprayed upon its walls) and All Saints church. After we checked into our hotel we walked about 400 yards to Porchester Hall, got our bags with the CD etc., got our tickets stamped and heard Tim Blake singing. Hawkwind were already on stage and were doing some songs by Tim at a rather low volume. There were only about a hundred people there and greeted my old friends Rainer, Bernhard and Christos. Standing right in front of the stage seeing Hawkwind perform was a strange experience, as well as hearing Dave singing Mirror of illusion in an unusual stripped down version, even playing harmonica and obviously having lots of fun. He had to put his glasses on to read the lyrics from the lyric book from the 80?s (which has by the way lots of faults...). It was over all too soon though. The Porchester Hall itself was beautiful, as we walked around we met other familiar faces (it was great to see you again, Scott!). Got some very tasty ale at the bar, bought T-Shirts and had a good time. TOSH was playing much louder than HW, and the drums were pretty annoying. But it was great to see Huw playing electric guitar with them. Ok, his soloing went a bit too long, but anyway, it was good to see him well and alive and having some fun on stage. Obviously he was in a much better state than at last year?s Hawkfest when I last saw him. Smiling throughout the day he was friendly to everyone who wanted to have a talk with him. His acoustic set later on wasn?t that great, but occasionally his playing was plain wonderful. Tarantism were indeed pretty good, but I would have liked to see some other HW-connected act instead, maybe some more Tim Blake songs. Ah well, you cannot have everything. The Chili was excellent as well, after ordering it took only 15 min. until our meals arrived. After that we took an hour break and went back to our hotel for a littly nap, which was plain necessary considering we?ve been up since 2.30 am. So we missed the skiffle band who got some divided reactions from fans. We arrived just in time for the raffle, but since we knew nothing about it we left our bags of HW goodies at the hotel, so we couldn?t win anything. Did anyone hear Matthew calling out the numbers 0547, 0548 or 0549? By that time the ale barrel was empty so I tried a Guiness, which was ok. After I got used to that dark brew I wanted another one, but then the barrel was also empty. So then it was time for, gulp, a lager... no, that was no good, but anyway, it was the only booze left... No, it ain?t not good, but over here in Germany we are blessed with so much better beer... The only good thing was that I had no headache from those 3 or 4 pints of lager the next day. Then after Huwie finished his acoustic set the HW show began. It started really good with that A&B/Golden Void/Where are they now medley. The band was really enjoying themselves, and the fans were going nuts. The sound was really muddy though and it was some big noise, I couldn?t hear each instrument clearly, which really was a shame. After an hour we left the front rows and farther away from stage the sound wasn?t better. The highlight for me was Angels of death, especially for the very heavy bass playing by Niall. The 2 new songs didn?t work for me, sorry to say, but I have to admit that I?ve heard them for the first time. Spirit of the Age was another totally different version and there was lots of rambling around on stage by that time, with the 2 dancers, which were excellent throughout the set, and even Cpt. Rizz fitted in perfectly. The encore was a let-down though: another boring version of Assassins of Allah and a not very inspired version of Fahrenheit 451. Maybe it was the fault of the bloody booze, but by the 2nd part of the show wasn?t much enjoyable for me, or maybe I was missing the "special guests" or maybe it was cos I was expecting a setlist more varied, some older stuff from the first 4 albums. To me it wasn?t one of the great gigs, just an average one. I?ve seen them so many times, over 50 concerts over the last 22 years, and a lot of them gigs HW were much better, but then again I?ve seen worse gigs, especially in 93/94 and in 97, so I won?t complain. All in all though it was a great party and worth the distresses of travelling. We, the fans, really got a lot for our money. For 25 quid you got a festival, a CD and a wonderful bag. And HW could have easily sold more tickets, but on that day you could walk easily all around the Hall without bumping into people. So we?ve all had a good time and I?d like to thank Dave and all of the crew members on & behind stage for a wonderful day. Lastly, one wish: Me and all the German fans (there were at least 15 of us there) would really like to have HW celebrating their 40th anniversary in Germany as well! Please, just one gig here would be just fine. A gig in Amsterdam or Tilburg or any other dutch town would be fine as well. Cheers, Andreas From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Sep 1 12:48:09 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:48:09 -0400 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show In-Reply-To: <16DEF671-C5C6-4D22-982F-12C6F7AD6ACA@carlaz.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:44 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show On 01 Sep 2009, at 09:32, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > Those 2 CDs were great because > the band resisted the urge to copy old stuff. Then > again, some of the new material was pretty lame too. > I doubt half the songs on those 2 discs could have made > the cut for a CD in the old days... Yeah, HF and CotHM recalled the likes of RbN and CN more than ST or FoUO! Yah, I agree. Hmm...I guess they aren't so great after all! I just don't think that their hearts are in it. Or Buck and Eric by themselves can't turn out the necessary volume of good songs. That's been the problem since they told Al to fout le camp. He was their most prolific writer and after they quit using Pearlman and Meltzer for lyrics, the well kind of dried up. Buck can write great songs, but he takes his time between writing them... There were more songwriters in or associated with the band back in the day, and taking the best from all of all them was sufficient to produce some quite good albums quite a lot of the time. No doubt. Even when they used new outside sources for writing, c.f. Heaven Forbid, the lyrics were usually the downfall... tj From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Sep 1 12:51:38 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:51:38 -0400 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: <26CA2A7E-B011-4DA3-8887-4725A809CA5D@carlaz.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:53 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: 40th anniversary Gig > Yah, I have to admit I use modelers sometimes, although > I've had glitches with them too. Being I rarely play > out these days, I have the luxury of leaving my > tube rig at practice, so I can use anything I want, > and the modelers stay home for noodling and figuring > out stuff... These days, everything I do is home-recording straight into the computer. I don't even have an amp of any kind, so it's all modellers for me. While it would be fun to mess around with a big ol' tube amp and microphones, I don't think the neighbours (or spouse!) Hehe, we practice at the bass player's house and he's single, so I can use a gig-worthy amp any time I want! But I still don't want to render myself deaf, so I use a volume pedal in the FX loop and it yields a result similar to an attenuator. Brings the crowd-slaying amp down to a usable level... would appreciate it, and the modellers sound just fine for my purposes. Actually, I've become kind of a fan of digital "re- amping", since I can apply all kinds of different amp simulation to the recorded dry signal after the fact. I tend to just slap down a basic guitar sound when recording and then futz around with the amp modelling later, once I have a better idea of how the song is shaping up. Sounds like a great system... tj From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 1 13:03:05 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:03:05 -0700 Subject: Porchester - Saturday Message-ID: Hey Andreas, I wondered where you'd got to, I thought we'd just lost you in the crowd in Notting Hill carnival. Steve -----Original Message----- From: andreas.stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Date: Tuesday, Sep 1, 2009 12:39 pm Subject: Re: Porchester - Saturday To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Ok, I rarely post anything here, but the party last Saturday was so good that I just have to write down my thoughts. We, that?s me, my wife and her friend, arrived in London on Saturday morning and after having breakfast near Piccadilly in Soho went by bus to Notting Hill Gate. It was great to see some familiar faces and getting to know some more Hawkfans, especially Steve Swann. The Hawkwalk really was very enjoyable, a big thank you to Jim who did a great job showing us all the historical buildings round Portobello Road. Though I?ve been there before I haven?t noticed the "flat block of 2 dimensions" before that inspired both Calvert?s and Ballard?s High Rise. Seeing the houses where Moorcock lived in the 70?s was very inspiring. Wish I had a time machine going back there some 35 years... The 25 page booklet Jim produced is a very interesting read as well, with some photographs of places as they were back then and as they look now. Sorry that I couldn?t make the last part of the tour cos I had to look after my wife and her friend who had some aching feet and sat down at a cafe. Strange that they chose the one that used to be the office where Friends/Frendz magazine was produced ages ago. The personal didn?t knew anything about Frendz though when I asked them. But we did continue the route and got to see Island Record Studios (which had some beautiful graffitis sprayed upon its walls) and All Saints church. After we checked into our hotel we walked about 400 yards to Porchester Hall, got our bags with the CD etc., got our tickets stamped and heard Tim Blake singing. Hawkwind were already on stage and were doing some songs by Tim at a rather low volume. There were only about a hundred people there and greeted my old friends Rainer, Bernhard and Christos. Standing right in front of the stage seeing Hawkwind perform was a strange experience, as well as hearing Dave singing Mirror of illusion in an unusual stripped down version, even playing harmonica and obviously having lots of fun. He had to put his glasses on to read the lyrics from the lyric book from the 80?s (which has by the way lots of faults...). It was over all too soon though. The Porchester Hall itself was beautiful, as we walked around we met other familiar faces (it was great to see you again, Scott!). Got some very tasty ale at the bar, bought T-Shirts and had a good time. TOSH was playing much louder than HW, and the drums were pretty annoying. But it was great to see Huw playing electric guitar with them. Ok, his soloing went a bit too long, but anyway, it was good to see him well and alive and having some fun on stage. Obviously he was in a much better state than at last year?s Hawkfest when I last saw him. Smiling throughout the day he was friendly to everyone who wanted to have a talk with him. His acoustic set later on wasn?t that great, but occasionally his playing was plain wonderful. Tarantism were indeed pretty good, but I would have liked to see some other HW-connected act instead, maybe some more Tim Blake songs. Ah well, you cannot have everything. The Chili was excellent as well, after ordering it took only 15 min. until our meals arrived. After that we took an hour break and went back to our hotel for a littly nap, which was plain necessary considering we?ve been up since 2.30 am. So we missed the skiffle band who got some divided reactions from fans. We arrived just in time for the raffle, but since we knew nothing about it we left our bags of HW goodies at the hotel, so we couldn?t win anything. Did anyone hear Matthew calling out the numbers 0547, 0548 or 0549? By that time the ale barrel was empty so I tried a Guiness, which was ok. After I got used to that dark brew I wanted another one, but then the barrel was also empty. So then it was time for, gulp, a lager... no, that was no good, but anyway, it was the only booze left... No, it ain?t not good, but over here in Germany we are blessed with so much better beer... The only good thing was that I had no headache from those 3 or 4 pints of lager the next day. Then after Huwie finished his acoustic set the HW show began. It started really good with that A&B/Golden Void/Where are they now medley. The band was really enjoying themselves, and the fans were going nuts. The sound was really muddy though and it was some big noise, I couldn?t hear each instrument clearly, which really was a shame. After an hour we left the front rows and farther away from stage the sound wasn?t better. The highlight for me was Angels of death, especially for the very heavy bass playing by Niall. The 2 new songs didn?t work for me, sorry to say, but I have to admit that I?ve heard them for the first time. Spirit of the Age was another totally different version and there was lots of rambling around on stage by that time, with the 2 dancers, which were excellent throughout the set, and even Cpt. Rizz fitted in perfectly. The encore was a let-down though: another boring version of Assassins of Allah and a not very inspired version of Fahrenheit 451. Maybe it was the fault of the bloody booze, but by the 2nd part of the show wasn?t much enjoyable for me, or maybe I was missing the "special guests" or maybe it was cos I was expecting a setlist more varied, some older stuff from the first 4 albums. To me it wasn?t one of the great gigs, just an average one. I?ve seen them so many times, over 50 concerts over the last 22 years, and a lot of them gigs HW were much better, but then again I?ve seen worse gigs, especially in 93/94 and in 97, so I won?t complain. All in all though it was a great party and worth the distresses of travelling. We, the fans, really got a lot for our money. For 25 quid you got a festival, a CD and a wonderful bag. And HW could have easily sold more tickets, but on that day you could walk easily all around the Hall without bumping into people. So we?ve all had a good time and I?d like to thank Dave and all of the crew members on & behind stage for a wonderful day. Lastly, one wish: Me and all the German fans (there were at least 15 of us there) would really like to have HW celebrating their 40th anniversary in Germany as well! Please, just one gig here would be just fine. A gig in Amsterdam or Tilburg or any other dutch town would be fine as well. Cheers, Andreas From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 1 13:12:48 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:12:48 -0500 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E8224E9360F@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On 01 Sep 2009, at 11:48, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > That's been the problem since they told Al to > fout le camp. He was their most prolific writer > and after they quit using Pearlman and Meltzer > for lyrics, the well kind of dried up. Buck > can write great songs, but he takes his time > between writing them... All true! Let the evidence show: _Imaginos_, effectively showcasing Al and Sandy's work for all that much of it was revisiting old ground, vs. either of the non-Al/Sandy bookends to that, _Club Ninja_ or _Heaven Forbid_ (or the _Bad Channels_ songs). My case is rested -- nay, it has flown to the Caribbean and lounges on a beach sipping umbrella drinks, so well rested is it! > Even when they used new outside sources > for writing, c.f. Heaven Forbid, the lyrics were > usually the downfall... Yeah, I _wanted_ to like John Shirley's lyrics -- I knew he was a big fan, and I pretty much enjoyed some of his books -- but they ... I think they just didn't work out! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 1 13:39:27 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:39:27 -0700 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show Message-ID: Actually per Al's account of those days as he told it to me, he said that he used to drive other band members to develop their songs - not letting them just noodle around but pushing them to turn their ideas into finished songs. I sort of gather that Don is a perfectionist who is always working on ideas, but doesn't like to call something "finished". Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Tuesday, Sep 1, 2009 1:20 pm Subject: Re: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 01 Sep 2009, at 11:48, Theodore O Jackson wrote: That's been the problem since they told Al to fout le camp. He was their most prolific writer and after they quit using Pearlman and Meltzer for lyrics, the well kind of dried up. Buck can write great songs, but he takes his time between writing them... All true! Let the evidence show: _Imaginos_, effectively showcasing Al and Sandy's work for all that much of it was revisiting old ground, vs. either of the non-Al/Sandy bookends to that, _Club Ninja_ or _Heaven Forbid_ (or the _Bad Channels_ songs). My case is rested -- nay, it has flown to the Caribbean and lounges on a beach sipping umbrella drinks, so well rested is it! > Even when they used new outside sources for writing, c.f. Heaven Forbid, the lyrics were usually the downfall... Yeah, I _wanted_ to like John Shirley's lyrics -- I knew he was a big fan, and I pretty much enjoyed some of his books -- but they ... I think they just didn't work out! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 1 14:10:08 2009 From: lindyhopper999 at YAHOO.COM (The Baron) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 14:10:08 -0400 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show Message-ID: I did like some of the selections, but felt a lack of energy in the performance. ME262, Stairway To The Stars, 7 Screaming Dizbusters, a few more were good choices, just lacked the delivery. I suppose a "radio" fan who never saw them before would be happy, but a true fan who has seen what they're capable of is left saddened. I had hoped to hear some other songs that appear to have been dropped from the setlist. Astronomy, I'd Like To See You In Black... I'd have been happy with the setlist I suppose, if they were up to the standard of years past. I left feeling like Buck is the only one still working hard. His guitar work is still amazing. I liked that he paid tribute to Les Paul with a musical interlude between songs. Nice touch. He's one of the best guitarists but seems to not get the recognition a technician of his caliper should get. On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:34:43 -0400, Swartz, John A. wrote: >Ah, it pains me to comment on this thread, but unfortunately it appears that an excellent BOC show is not the lock that it used to be. The last BOC show I was at was early 2008 and it was absolutely fantastic (they pulled out lots of old chestnuts), and I know they did a very well-received fans-only show last November. But based on setlists I've seen of many recent shows, I can understand fans frustration. It would seem based on the setlists that Eric's ability to sing has been diminished - this happened back in the late 90's for a year or so when he only sang 2 or 3 songs (and "E.T.I." was more "rapped", then sung). He "came back" after that, and the band added Eric-belting songs like "Astronomy" and "Take Me Away" back in the setlist. Unfortunately we're back to a mostly Buck-sung setlist (nothing wrong with Buck's vocals, and it's cool to get some otherwise unheard tunes like "Shooting Shark", "Perfect Water", and "I Love the Night" (all 3 verses), but there is something missing without Eric's heavier vocals, and some of the songs that go with them). > >I'm not sure if Buck's injury that kept the band out of action for 6 months is a factor... > >However, while they are now "2 Oyster Cult" again, I thought the 3 "other guys" added a good deal of energy to their line-up. Jules is an excellent drummer, Richie is possibly the most musically talented of all of them (Heaven Forbid!!), and Rudy Szarzo needs no introduction. > >Finally, we can opine whether or not BOC has anything left to offer, but I'd turn this around - what demand motivates them to do anything other than what they're doing? They're playing for a paycheck and (hopefully) they still enjoy what they are doing, but other than a (diminishing) base of hardcore fans that still hope they might breakout the setlist from *On Your Feet or on Your Knees* (and a few even more disillusioned fans that think the original line-up might still play together some day), what motivation to they have to do anything different? > >Keep "living in the pocket of the moment", > >John > >PS: I thought *Heaven Forbid* and *Curse of the Hidden Mirror* were excellent albums - understandably though, the demand from the audiences (who are aging as fast as most of the band) is not that great. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Theodore O Jackson [mailto:tjackson at SYR.EDU] >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:42 PM >> Subject: Re: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show >> >> I guess 2?C must still be making some money out of playing the county >> fairs with the puppet shows, since I can't think of why else they are >> doing it. >> >> >> Yah, if not for the 'Taste of Peoria' type shows and Indian >> casinos, I guess 2?C would be out of business... >> >> >> >> The last time I saw any incarnation of the band (in London >> probably at least 5 years ago!), Alan was still aboard to make it >> 3?C, but other than Buck (and, actually, Alan) still being able to >> crank out some cool guitar, it was pretty clear that there was >> nothing really going on. Honestly, Eric's recent "Hamtouchers" >> Warhammer song was more fun than most of "Curse of the Hidden Mirror" >> -- and what's the likelihood of 2?C being able to crank out an album >> better than _Harvest Moon_ (which at least had a pretty decent title >> track, >> >> Heaven Forbid? But yeah, Harvest Moon is a truly great song. >> I guess they probably quit doing it live a while back, which >> is too bad as it was one of their best songs live... >> >> >> >> for all that it was a retread of something Buck wrote in the >> 80s) or _CotHM_? Slight, is my lamentable prediction -- in which >> case, what's the point? >> >> Though I can understand a band that doesn't produce a lot of new >> material but delivers ripping, amazing live performances .... it's >> not like 2?C seem to be doing that anyway. :/ Maybe they figure that >> they are now so low on the radar that they can just run the name into >> the ground with no harm done? I dunno .... >> >> >> Yah, sounds about right. Besides they're at a good age to retire. >> Do a couple more years of municipal festivals and call it a day. >> Well, you can always spin Secret Treaties any time ya want... >> >> >> tj From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Sep 1 14:24:41 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 14:24:41 -0400 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I did like some of the selections, but felt a lack of energy in the performance. ME262, Stairway To The Stars, 7 Screaming Dizbusters, a few more were good choices, just lacked the delivery. I guess I shouldn't be whining, as I don't think I've ever seen them do Dizbusters, and I've probably seen them close to 50 times... I suppose a "radio" fan who never saw them before would be happy, but a true fan who has seen what they're capable of is left saddened. Yah, that's it in a nutshell. I've probably seen the original lineup more than any of the other incarnations, and that really sticks with ya... I had hoped to hear some other songs that appear to have been dropped from the setlist. Astronomy, I'd Like To See You In Black... SYiB! Great song. Only saw it a few times live, but it rocked, and worked well in the live set... I'd have been happy with the setlist I suppose, if they were up to the standard of years past. I left feeling like Buck is the only one still working hard. His guitar work is still amazing. I liked that he paid tribute to Les Paul with a musical interlude between songs. Nice touch. He's one of the best guitarists but seems to not get the recognition a technician of his caliper should get. I never could understand it. Even when B?C were selling huge in the 70s, you never saw Buck in the guitar magazines. And this is a guy with a very unique style who foreshadowed the shredders of the 80s. Well, he now seems to get his due. You see him mentioned more in the guitar mags now than he was in the heyday... tj From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Sep 1 17:14:53 2009 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:14:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Re Hawkwind at Porchester Hall Message-ID: oooh I just love the outakes CD it is gorgeous - one of the finest pieces of unfinished work since..... oh I dunno "The Mezentian Gate"? (which no-one will have heard of) or - Leonardo da Vinci's works? - whatever. And is that Arthur Brown I hear?? The sound has a real depth to it and this CD is going to be on my player for a long time. Thank you all! I can't really add anything to the other weekend reports - they say it all so I'll mention some extraneous bits. The Porchester pub made an excellent gathering place to wind down quietly after the venue closed and it was great to meet up with so many other Hawkfans, especially Steve Swann - who didn't look anything like I expected. And there was an especially enjoyable half hour or so earlier Saturday afternoon when Niall joined us for a chat. Thank you! JimSki's guided walk was fascinating - I'd wandered round most of it on my own years ago but his knowedge was encyclopaedic and the information booklet is full of interesting articles. I must echo the comments of the person who says it should be made into a heritage trail - the area has a unique social and musical history that spans an whole era. Seriously - if any of the Ladbroke Grove / Portobello Road denizens are looking to do more than stall selling there is a huge Musical Heritage all around them just crying out to be revealed. Surely it's time for more than endlessly repeated images of an Abbey Road pedestrian crossing and nostalgic videos of Woodstock and Jimi Hendrix at the Isle of Wight Festival. Thoroughly enjoyed the Elves of Silbury set but in TOSH the drummer was somewhat too aggressive for my taste which spoiled an otherwise good set - thoroughly enjoyed the Question and Answer session too (rather to my surprise) - and, ah yes, the Badger was - ummm - remarkable! Pity about the acoustics for the evening set - it was worse on Saturday than on Friday, possibly because the curtains were drawn and there was nowhere for the sound to escape so it kept bouncing around inside the room. But the band were playing really well and if you could tune out the acoustic shriek (and sometimes it did disappear) the set was wonderful. Please, please can someone with a version of Sentinel try to work out some lyrics for me. I keep catching bits but I'd love to put it all together so I can wander round singing it - off key. Congrats to the guy doing the food though I suspect he was a bit overwhelmed by the demand. But he didn't seem to panic and just kept doing his best - well done sir! And to all the other organisers who were never anything less than cheerful - even the nice doorkeeper who must have had a very long day! It was strangely wierd to wake up on Sunday and not have anything Hawkwind to do. Ah well - not long until Christmas! Thank you everyone Jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 1 17:58:36 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 14:58:36 -0700 Subject: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E8224E93613@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: I think I remember a guitar magazine featuring him around his solo album (with a shot of his collection) and I am pretty sure he used to be a columnist for Guitar World in the 80s. ________________________________ From: Theodore O Jackson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 1:24:41 PM Subject: Re: Boc: BOC Cleveland Ohio Show I did like some of the selections, but felt a lack of energy in the performance. ME262, Stairway To The Stars, 7 Screaming Dizbusters, a few more were good choices, just lacked the delivery. I guess I shouldn't be whining, as I don't think I've ever seen them do Dizbusters, and I've probably seen them close to 50 times... I suppose a "radio" fan who never saw them before would be happy, but a true fan who has seen what they're capable of is left saddened. Yah, that's it in a nutshell. I've probably seen the original lineup more than any of the other incarnations, and that really sticks with ya... I had hoped to hear some other songs that appear to have been dropped from the setlist. Astronomy, I'd Like To See You In Black... SYiB! Great song. Only saw it a few times live, but it rocked, and worked well in the live set... I'd have been happy with the setlist I suppose, if they were up to the standard of years past. I left feeling like Buck is the only one still working hard. His guitar work is still amazing. I liked that he paid tribute to Les Paul with a musical interlude between songs. Nice touch. He's one of the best guitarists but seems to not get the recognition a technician of his caliper should get. I never could understand it. Even when B?C were selling huge in the 70s, you never saw Buck in the guitar magazines. And this is a guy with a very unique style who foreshadowed the shredders of the 80s. Well, he now seems to get his due. You see him mentioned more in the guitar mags now than he was in the heyday... tj From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Sep 2 14:01:35 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:01:35 +0200 Subject: Hawklords Live 78 CD Message-ID: Hi folks Bought on Saturday the HAWKLORDS LIVE 78 CD at HMV My good old friend Rainer told me to listen carefully to DEATH TRAP Of well, it is for sure not the song that was performed on 24.11.78 The power break was not cut-out for this release. The song was replaced with a song from another gig. I wonder from which one it could be from.......... cheers Bernhard From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Wed Sep 2 15:47:45 2009 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:47:45 -0400 Subject: Hawklords Live 78 CD Message-ID: I noticed the same thing, Bernhard, and was also wondering from where this version of Death Trap was taken. Since the tapes have been edited, it calls into question the other songs as well. I haven't done a side-by-side comparison with the "actual" tape of the show, so I don't yet know if other songs were exchanged as well. Hawkwind is indeed a band of mystery, not the least of which includes my having applied for a replacement passport 4 times in the last 3 years with no results whatsoever (my original from years back never having been returned by the band). I've enjoyed what I've seen and heard of the Porchester show and other shows on the current tour. Even what I've heard from Huw I thought was quite respectable, despite some comments to the contrary. It was mesmerizing to hear Dave play the harmonica, since the community's only familiarity with that skill dates primarily from his pre-Hawkwind days. Long may they fly! John Majka > Hi folks > > Bought on Saturday the HAWKLORDS LIVE 78 CD at HMV > My good old friend Rainer told me to listen carefully to DEATH TRAP > > Of well, it is for sure not the song that was performed on 24.11.78 > > The power break was not cut-out for this release. > The song was replaced with a song from another gig. > I wonder from which one it could be from.......... > > > cheers > Bernhard > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Wed Sep 2 17:17:48 2009 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:17:48 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com SEPTEMBER 2, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOW: AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #223). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #223) Guild Navigators - "Space Ark" (from Deathrace Beyond the Stars: Guild Navigators vs. Jet Jaguar) Scarlet Utopia - "NGC 1365 Spiral Galaxy" (from Adventures Under Black Light) Alien Planetscapes - "Great Red Spot #2" (from Iron Man Of Venus) Zarathhustra - "Gettin' The Venus Down To Earth" (from Stratoskopia - A Friday Night on Venus - Jam Session 3) Soriah (with Ashkelon Sain) - "Tonacayotica" (from Atlan) Spirits Burning & Bridget Wishart - "Mother Of The Dragon" (from forthcoming Bloodlines) Space Mirrors - "Dreamland II: Area 51" (From Majestic 12: A Hidden Presence) Psi Corp - "On Board the Ariel" (from "Tekeli-li" A Soundtrack to the Adventures of A.G.Pym) Nifty Eagu + The Glo-Pilots - "Sabbath Blues" (from Ezoteric) Trev and Kev - "Beautiful Stranger/Master of the Universe Medley" (from Live at the Cosmic Puffin) The Def-A-Kators - "Object (dub mix)" (from Texas Redneck With A Big Cock) Random Touch - "All That Happened Was" (from A Way From The Heard) The Future Kings Of England - "Time Flies Like An Arrow" (from The Viewing Point) Don Campau - "I Nailed Sarah Palin" (from Seizure) Litter & Leech - "Season of the Doomed" (from Augmented Reality) Lamp Of The Universe - "Astral Planes of Knowing" (from Acid Mantra) ST 37 - "Breaking Lines" (from High and Inside) Baby Woodrose - "Take It" (from Baby Woodrose) Brad Anderson - "Sulfuric Acid Trip" (from Juiced) Zone Six - "Collaptus" (from Live Wired 2004) http://Aural-Innovations.com From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Wed Sep 2 19:04:00 2009 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (mark) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:04:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Interpretation of Sonic Attack Message-ID: Found this interpretation of Sonic Attack on youtube. Unlike any version heard before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJDXdEYszfY From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 3 01:01:12 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:01:12 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall Message-ID: Well, hell. I've been trying to do a writeup of the Porchester shows now for a couple of days, and there's just too much to cover. So let me start with the important thing, by thanking some people. Mike Holmes and Jill Strobridge - I spent so much time with the two of you that you were practically my hosts for the event. After chatting online for almost 20 years (!!) it was great to finally meet both of you. I had a great time, thanks much for the hospitality. Arin & Rich - it was great to meet you, thanks especially for introducing me to so many people that I otherwise wouldn't have met. We hadn't talked all that much online previously, I see now that was a mistake. Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you and thanks for the good company. Bernhard, Christos and Rainer - Glad to make the acquaintance of the Kollektor Kings :) I had a great time talking with you guys. Maxine & ??? - It was really fun hanging out with you (and damn I'm embarrassed at forgetting your friend's name)! Although some day I want a coherent explanation of how we ended up in an Austrian bar at 2am with guys in lederhosen singing Ein Prosit. It must have been the fault of those Dutch guys! The Hawkwalk Gang - most especially Jimski for his work in writing up and leading the tour. Steve Youles, Steve Bishop, Andreas, Mick, Jon and the 20 or so other Hawkfans that I met on the walk... somewhere there are a lot of pictures of this group, I hope someone puts them up and captions them with people's names for those like me who wouldn't remember their head if it wasn't screwed on. So, the shows. There's been a lot of talk about the quality of the pre-show material. Hawkwind doing its Elves of Silly Berry excuse me Silbury act, the various other bands and performers, the Q&A sessions, Huw, Tarantism, Bob Kerr, et al. I look at it this way. I had expected most of the day to be a kind of laid back party with the band going on at the end of the day. Instead Hawkwind, various members of Hawkwind, and other musical guests were up on stage most of the bloody day, giving us a show to watch if we felt like watching it. I went back and forth between hanging out with the numerous and wonderful Hawkfans who I'd never had a chance to meet before and watching the various shows on stage. On Friday I watched pretty much everything, except for a brief interlude for food (I had ordered from the food service, but when I realized that it was going to take 40 minutes, Jill and I went out instead). On Saturday I spent more time mingling, which had the detrimental effect of causing me to miss the Elves' performance of The Only Ones (which they hadn't done on Friday). Grrrrrr! But bottom line I thought the performances were a great thing. I mean, counting the Elves, I basically got to see Hawkwind play 4 times this weekend, what's not to like about that? I liked TOSH a lot - in effect, TOSH went a fair way towards satisfying my craving for Space Ritual era heavy acid rock Hawkwind. I agree with the people who said the drum sound was too aggressive, that could be just an over-amplification issue. I also had a chat afterward with TOSH's guitar player (Dave's guitar tech) who's an incredibly nice guy. I ran in Dibs in the hall at one point and told him he's my hero - the fan who becomes a member of the band, which is the best story in the world! Later when a handful of us were having a beer with Niall in the Porchester, I found out that he's got a very similar story. No wonder the band is looking like such a happy bunch these days. ;-) As for the "main event", both nights were storming gigs. The band was spot on, and they blew the roof off the place. Hell, if I never saw a better gig than that, I'd still count myself a lucky man, because I saw it *twice*. ;-) Hawkwind... FORTY FUCKING YEARS and still rocking like seven kinds of thunder! Last of all, I have to thank Dave Brock, who has never met me, but who has shaped most of my adult life with his music. Steve From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 3 01:32:08 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:32:08 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: <919e368d0909022201q1cd051dbn626b021cc14fb8ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/3/09, Steve Swann wrote: > Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you and If it is I wonder if he knows what it stands for before revealing what I graciously refrained from changing it to- PXR5pieces All in good spirit this end back to the rest of your report (remember he won't read this if you don't reply) From crimsonmirrors at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 3 01:42:38 2009 From: crimsonmirrors at GMAIL.COM (Crimson One) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:42:38 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: <17d80c610909022232x573f7abfo9cffed6354a2cb04@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: By all means someone reply! Or...wait, I already did. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM, mike coleman wrote: > On 9/3/09, Steve Swann wrote: > > > Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you and > > > If it is I wonder if he knows what it stands for before revealing what I > graciously refrained from changing it to- PXR5pieces > All in good spirit this end > back to the rest of your report > (remember he won't read this if you don't reply) > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 3 01:49:18 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:49:18 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now if you did that it was only to LEARN NOT to start a fight On 9/3/09, Crimson One wrote: > > By all means someone reply! Or...wait, I already did. > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM, mike coleman >wrote: > > > On 9/3/09, Steve Swann wrote: > > > > > Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you and > > > > > > If it is I wonder if he knows what it stands for before revealing what I > > graciously refrained from changing it to- PXR5pieces > > All in good spirit this end > > back to the rest of your report > > (remember he won't read this if you don't reply) > > > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 3 01:55:11 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:55:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Re Hawkwind at Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So, Al Bouchard expected me to look like Sandy Pearlman. http://homepage.mac.com/blackmarketclash/Bands/Clash/recordings/1978/78-01-26%20Lanchester/78%2000%2001%20PHOTO%20SANDY%20PEARLMAN.jpg Carl Anderson expected me to look like Dave Wyndorf. ;-) http://images.coveralia.com/audio/m/Monster_Magnet-Powertrip-Frontal.jpg ...although these days, I sort of do ;-) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2608604678_541b78f7d6_b.jpg Dare I ask what you expected me to look like? LOL! Steve On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Jill Strobridge wrote: > oooh I just love the outakes CD it is gorgeous - one of the finest pieces of > unfinished work since..... oh I dunno "The Mezentian Gate"? (which no-one > will have heard of) or - Leonardo da Vinci's works? - whatever. ?And is that > Arthur Brown I hear?? ?The sound has a real depth to it and this CD is going > to be on my player for a long time. ? Thank you all! > > I can't really add anything to the other weekend reports - they say it all > so I'll mention some extraneous bits. ?The Porchester pub made an excellent > gathering place to wind down quietly after the venue closed and it was great > to meet up with so many other Hawkfans, especially Steve Swann - who didn't > look anything like I expected. ? And there was an especially enjoyable half > hour or so earlier Saturday afternoon when Niall joined us for a chat. Thank > you! > > JimSki's guided walk was fascinating - I'd wandered round most of it on my > own years ago but his knowedge was encyclopaedic and the information booklet > is full of interesting articles. ? I must echo the comments of the person > who says it should be made into a heritage trail - the area has a unique > social and musical history that spans an whole era. ?Seriously - if any of > the Ladbroke Grove / Portobello Road denizens are looking to do more than > stall selling there is a huge Musical Heritage all around them just crying > out to be revealed. ? Surely it's time for more than endlessly repeated > images of an Abbey Road pedestrian crossing and nostalgic videos of > Woodstock and Jimi Hendrix at the Isle of Wight Festival. > > Thoroughly enjoyed the Elves of Silbury set but in TOSH the drummer was > somewhat too aggressive for my taste which spoiled an otherwise good set - > thoroughly enjoyed the Question and Answer session too (rather to my > surprise) - and, ah yes, the Badger was - ummm - remarkable! ? Pity about > the acoustics for the evening set - it was worse on Saturday than on Friday, > possibly because the curtains were drawn and there was nowhere for the sound > to escape so it kept bouncing around inside the room. ?But the band were > playing really well and if you could tune out the acoustic shriek (and > sometimes it did disappear) the set was wonderful. ?Please, please can > someone with a version of Sentinel try to work out some lyrics for me. ?I > keep catching bits but I'd love to put it all together so I can wander round > singing it - off key. > > Congrats to the guy doing the food though I suspect he was a bit overwhelmed > by the demand. ?But he didn't seem to panic and just kept doing his best - > well done sir! ? ?And to all the other organisers who were never anything > less than cheerful - even the nice doorkeeper who must have had a very long > day! > > It was strangely wierd to wake up on Sunday and not have anything Hawkwind > to do. ? Ah well - not long until Christmas! > > Thank you everyone > Jill > ============================================== > Jill Strobridge > ============================================== > From crimsonmirrors at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 3 01:57:02 2009 From: crimsonmirrors at GMAIL.COM (Crimson One) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 00:57:02 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: <17d80c610909022249y17dcb051h180f20d16228112a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I would never ever start a fight. Fighting is evil. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, mike coleman wrote: > Now if you did that it was only to LEARN > NOT to start a fight > > > > On 9/3/09, Crimson One wrote: > > > > By all means someone reply! Or...wait, I already did. > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM, mike coleman > >wrote: > > > > > On 9/3/09, Steve Swann wrote: > > > > > > > Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you and > > > > > > > > > If it is I wonder if he knows what it stands for before revealing what > I > > > graciously refrained from changing it to- PXR5pieces > > > All in good spirit this end > > > back to the rest of your report > > > (remember he won't read this if you don't reply) > > > > > > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Sep 3 12:41:56 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:41:56 +0200 Subject: Hawklords Live 78 CD In-Reply-To: <95CA424B1A3E4995831FF184B9D46DF3@MAJKA> Message-ID: Hello John I will try to compare at least DEATH TRAP with the recordings I have from the HL Tour. If I should have success I will let you know Perhaps someone should ask ATOMHENGE where DT is from Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:48 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawklords Live 78 CD I noticed the same thing, Bernhard, and was also wondering from where this version of Death Trap was taken. Since the tapes have been edited, it calls into question the other songs as well. I haven't done a side-by-side comparison with the "actual" tape of the show, so I don't yet know if other songs were exchanged as well. Hawkwind is indeed a band of mystery, not the least of which includes my having applied for a replacement passport 4 times in the last 3 years with no results whatsoever (my original from years back never having been returned by the band). I've enjoyed what I've seen and heard of the Porchester show and other shows on the current tour. Even what I've heard from Huw I thought was quite respectable, despite some comments to the contrary. It was mesmerizing to hear Dave play the harmonica, since the community's only familiarity with that skill dates primarily from his pre-Hawkwind days. Long may they fly! John Majka > Hi folks > > Bought on Saturday the HAWKLORDS LIVE 78 CD at HMV My good old friend > Rainer told me to listen carefully to DEATH TRAP > > Of well, it is for sure not the song that was performed on 24.11.78 > > The power break was not cut-out for this release. > The song was replaced with a song from another gig. > I wonder from which one it could be from.......... > > > cheers > Bernhard > From david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Sep 3 19:05:42 2009 From: david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM (Dave Hall) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 00:05:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles 229 Club Gig In-Reply-To: <35716.62846.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi I've missed something here. Barney Bubbles Memorial gig - great! Benefit for what? Regards Dave ---- Ian Abrahams wrote: > PRESS RELEASE THE HAWKLORDS HEADLINE AN ALL-DAY BARNEY BUBBLES MEMORIAL BENEFIT CONCERT ? ? ? The 229 Club, 229 Great Portland Street, London, W1W 5PN Sunday 29th November, 2009 from 2 ? 10pm On 14th November 1983, the art and music worlds lost one of their most important and innovative figures with the death of the legendary graphic designer Barney Bubbles. His work as Hawkwind?s cover artist and stage-set creator established him as key figure in the Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill counter-culture scene, whilst his subsequent work with Stiff Records (including his designs for Elvis Costello?s album covers and his fractured Kandinsky-esque cover painting for The Damned?s Music For Pleasure LP) established his relevance to the punk/new-wave generation. He directed the seminal video for The Specials? ?Ghost Town? single, worked as art director at Friends magazine and was an early champion of Pennie Smith, who was to become one of rock?s most lauded photographers. ??...one of the most important graphic artists of his time.? Will Birch, ?No Sleep ?Till Canvey Island ? The British Pub Rock Scene?. Barney Bubbles? long-time friend and admirer, former Hawkwind saxophonist Nik Turner, has been instrumental in organising this memorial concert celebrating the life and achievements of this most singular of multi-media artists, with a view to setting up a foundation/annual award for innovative album cover design, and a memorial plaque for him... Headliners THE HAWKLORDS, featuring Adrian Shaw, Alan Davey, Harvey Bainbridge, Jerry Richards, Martin Griffin, Nik Turner, Ron Tree, Steve Swindells and Terry Ollis will perform Hawkwind?s 1973 stage extravaganza, Space Ritual, up-dated to 2009, supported by? The New Bubblettes dancers and lighting designs inspired by Liquid Len & The Lensmen. The day?s extensive line-up also features key 70s Notting Hill band QUINTESSENCE, The Damned founder-member Brian James, fronting his own BRIAN JAMES GANG, Nik Turner?s INNER CITY UNIT and the band created by Barney Bubbles,THE IMPERIAL POMPADOURS. Pentameters Players will perform their acclaimed staging of ROBERT CALVERT?s play, ?The Stars That Play With Laughing Sam?s Dice?. Also appearing during this memorial concert: JERRY FITZGERALD/LOL COXHILL?S ?FRE-EX, TRIKIMIKI?S ?3-D SPACE-WARP?, and D.J. JEFF DEXTER ?Barney was, as far as media direction of the youth of this country, probably the most important artist of our generation.? Douglas Smith, interviewed by Jonathon Green, ?Days In the Life: Voices From The English Underground?. www.hawklords.com The 229 ticket hotline 0207 323 7229 * ?20.00 advance, ?25.00 door From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 4 01:54:58 2009 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:54:58 -0700 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles 229 Club Gig In-Reply-To: <20090904000542.R9E5P.828910.root@web04-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: "Barney Bubbles? long-time friend and admirer, former Hawkwind saxophonist Nik Turner, has been instrumental in organising this memorial concert celebrating the life and achievements of this most singular of multi-media artists, with a view to setting up a foundation/annual award for innovative album cover design, and a memorial plaque for him..." ...which all costs money! So that's the idea of the show, a celebration of the work of Barney Bubbles by a collection of bands who had links to him, in order to raise some funds to do something in his honour, whether it be a plaque in Notting Hill (maybe at the site of the old Friends office) or an award in his name... Ian ________________________________ From: Dave Hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 12:05:42 AM Subject: Re: HW: Barney Bubbles 229 Club Gig Hi I've missed something here. Barney Bubbles Memorial gig - great! Benefit for what? Regards Dave ---- Ian Abrahams wrote: > PRESS RELEASE THE HAWKLORDS HEADLINE AN ALL-DAY BARNEY BUBBLES MEMORIAL BENEFIT CONCERT ? ? ? The 229 Club, 229 Great Portland Street, London, W1W 5PN Sunday 29th November, 2009 from 2 ? 10pm On 14th November 1983, the art and music worlds lost one of their most important and innovative figures with the death of the legendary graphic designer Barney Bubbles. His work as Hawkwind?s cover artist and stage-set creator established him as key figure in the Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill counter-culture scene, whilst his subsequent work with Stiff Records (including his designs for Elvis Costello?s album covers and his fractured Kandinsky-esque cover painting for The Damned?s Music For Pleasure LP) established his relevance to the punk/new-wave generation. He directed the seminal video for The Specials? ?Ghost Town? single, worked as art director at Friends magazine and was an early champion of Pennie Smith, who was to become one of rock?s most lauded photographers. ??...one of the most important graphic artists of his time.? Will Birch, ?No Sleep ?Till Canvey Island ? The British Pub Rock Scene?. Barney Bubbles? long-time friend and admirer, former Hawkwind saxophonist Nik Turner, has been instrumental in organising this memorial concert celebrating the life and achievements of this most singular of multi-media artists, with a view to setting up a foundation/annual award for innovative album cover design, and a memorial plaque for him... Headliners THE HAWKLORDS, featuring Adrian Shaw, Alan Davey, Harvey Bainbridge, Jerry Richards, Martin Griffin, Nik Turner, Ron Tree, Steve Swindells and Terry Ollis will perform Hawkwind?s 1973 stage extravaganza, Space Ritual, up-dated to 2009, supported by? The New Bubblettes dancers and lighting designs inspired by Liquid Len & The Lensmen. The day?s extensive line-up also features key 70s Notting Hill band QUINTESSENCE, The Damned founder-member Brian James, fronting his own BRIAN JAMES GANG, Nik Turner?s INNER CITY UNIT and the band created by Barney Bubbles,THE IMPERIAL POMPADOURS. Pentameters Players will perform their acclaimed staging of ROBERT CALVERT?s play, ?The Stars That Play With Laughing Sam?s Dice?. Also appearing during this memorial concert: JERRY FITZGERALD/LOL COXHILL?S ?FRE-EX, TRIKIMIKI?S ?3-D SPACE-WARP?, and D.J.. JEFF DEXTER ?Barney was, as far as media direction of the youth of this country, probably the most important artist of our generation.? Douglas Smith, interviewed by Jonathon Green, ?Days In the Life: Voices From The English Underground?. www.hawklords.com The 229 ticket hotline 0207 323 7229 * ?20.00 advance, ?25.00 door From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 4 02:00:18 2009 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:00:18 +0800 Subject: HW: Barney Bubbles 229 Club Gig In-Reply-To: <498155.39360.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I suppose it has to be a memorial for someone or something :) Jonathan 2009/9/4 Ian Abrahams > "Barney Bubbles? long-time friend and admirer, former Hawkwind saxophonist > Nik Turner, has been instrumental in organising this memorial concert > celebrating the life and achievements of this most singular of multi-media > artists, with a view to setting up a foundation/annual award for innovative > album cover design, and a memorial plaque for him..." > > ...which all costs money! > > So that's the idea of the show, a celebration of the work of Barney Bubbles > by a collection of bands who had links to him, in order to raise some funds > to do something in his honour, whether it be a plaque in Notting Hill (maybe > at the site of the old Friends office) or an award in his name... > > Ian > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave Hall > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 12:05:42 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Barney Bubbles 229 Club Gig > > Hi > > I've missed something here. Barney Bubbles Memorial gig - great! Benefit > for what? > > Regards > > Dave > ---- Ian Abrahams wrote: > > PRESS RELEASE > THE HAWKLORDS HEADLINE AN ALL-DAY BARNEY BUBBLES MEMORIAL BENEFIT CONCERT > > > > The 229 Club, 229 Great Portland Street, London, W1W 5PN > Sunday 29th November, 2009 from 2 ? 10pm > On 14th November 1983, the art and music worlds lost one of their most > important and innovative figures with the death of the legendary graphic > designer Barney Bubbles. His work as Hawkwind?s cover artist and stage-set > creator established him as key figure in the Ladbroke Grove/Notting Hill > counter-culture scene, whilst his subsequent work with Stiff Records > (including his designs for Elvis Costello?s album covers and his fractured > Kandinsky-esque cover painting for The Damned?s Music For Pleasure LP) > established his relevance to the punk/new-wave generation. He directed the > seminal video for The Specials? ?Ghost Town? single, worked as art director > at Friends magazine and was an early champion of Pennie Smith, who was to > become one of rock?s most lauded photographers. > ?...one of the most important graphic artists of his time.? Will Birch, > ?No Sleep ?Till Canvey Island ? The British Pub Rock Scene?. > Barney Bubbles? long-time friend and admirer, former Hawkwind saxophonist > Nik Turner, has been instrumental in organising this memorial concert > celebrating the life and achievements of this most singular of multi-media > artists, with a view to setting up a foundation/annual award for innovative > album cover design, and a memorial plaque for him... > Headliners THE HAWKLORDS, featuring Adrian Shaw, Alan Davey, Harvey > Bainbridge, Jerry Richards, Martin Griffin, Nik Turner, Ron Tree, Steve > Swindells and Terry Ollis will perform Hawkwind?s 1973 stage extravaganza, > Space Ritual, up-dated to 2009, supported by The New Bubblettes dancers and > lighting designs inspired by Liquid Len & The Lensmen. > The day?s extensive line-up also features key 70s Notting Hill band > QUINTESSENCE, The Damned founder-member Brian James, fronting his own BRIAN > JAMES GANG, Nik Turner?s INNER CITY UNIT and the band created by Barney > Bubbles,THE IMPERIAL POMPADOURS. > Pentameters Players will perform their acclaimed staging of ROBERT > CALVERT?s play, ?The Stars That Play With Laughing Sam?s Dice?. > Also appearing during this memorial concert: JERRY FITZGERALD/LOL COXHILL?S > ?FRE-EX, TRIKIMIKI?S ?3-D SPACE-WARP?, and D.J.. JEFF DEXTER > ?Barney was, as far as media direction of the youth of this country, > probably the most important artist of our generation.? Douglas Smith, > interviewed by Jonathon Green, ?Days In the Life: Voices From The English > Underground?. > www.hawklords.com > The 229 ticket hotline 0207 323 7229 * ?20.00 advance, ?25.00 door > > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 4 08:46:38 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:46:38 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: <919e368d0909022201q1cd051dbn626b021cc14fb8ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh and it was also great meeting Alan of Tangledwoof, who I expected to be a guy with a full professional photographer's rig! Alan, I'm still flatly amazed that you get the kind of shots you do with that consumer grade camera - Tangled Woof captures the look and feel of a Hawkwind concert better than any site I know (it's where I point people to when ask me "so what's supposed to be so special about this light show I keep hearing about?"). I'm looking forward to seeing what you got this time... :) Steve On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Steve Swann wrote: > Well, hell. ?I've been trying to do a writeup of the Porchester shows > now for a couple of days, and there's just too much to cover. ?So let > me start with the important thing, by thanking some people. > > Mike Holmes and Jill Strobridge - I spent so much time with the two of > you that you were practically my hosts for the event. ?After chatting > online for almost 20 years (!!) it was great to finally meet both of > you. ?I had a great time, thanks much for the hospitality. > Arin & Rich - it was great to meet you, thanks especially for > introducing me to so many people that I otherwise wouldn't have met. > We hadn't talked all that much online previously, I see now that was a > mistake. > Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? ?:) ?Glad to meet you and > thanks for the good company. > Bernhard, Christos and Rainer - Glad to make the acquaintance of the > Kollektor Kings :) ?I had a great time talking with you guys. > Maxine & ??? - It was really fun hanging out with you (and damn I'm > embarrassed at forgetting your friend's name)! ?Although some day I > want a coherent explanation of how we ended up in an Austrian bar at > 2am with guys in lederhosen singing Ein Prosit. ?It must have been the > fault of those Dutch guys! > The Hawkwalk Gang - most especially Jimski for his work in writing up > and leading the tour. ?Steve Youles, Steve Bishop, Andreas, Mick, Jon > and the 20 or so other Hawkfans that I met on the walk... somewhere > there are a lot of pictures of this group, I hope someone puts them up > and captions them with people's names for those like me who wouldn't > remember their head if it wasn't screwed on. > > So, the shows. ?There's been a lot of talk about the quality of the > pre-show material. ?Hawkwind doing its Elves of Silly Berry excuse me > Silbury act, the various other bands and performers, the Q&A sessions, > Huw, Tarantism, Bob Kerr, et al. ?I look at it this way. ?I had > expected most of the day to be a kind of laid back party with the band > going on at the end of the day. ?Instead Hawkwind, various members of > Hawkwind, and other musical guests were up on stage most of the bloody > day, giving us a show to watch if we felt like watching it. > > I went back and forth between hanging out with the numerous and > wonderful Hawkfans who I'd never had a chance to meet before and > watching the various shows on stage. ?On Friday I watched pretty much > everything, except for a brief interlude for food (I had ordered from > the food service, but when I realized that it was going to take 40 > minutes, Jill and I went out instead). ?On Saturday I spent more time > mingling, which had the detrimental effect of causing me to miss the > Elves' performance of The Only Ones (which they hadn't done on > Friday). ?Grrrrrr! ?But bottom line I thought the performances were a > great thing. ?I mean, counting the Elves, I basically got to see > Hawkwind play 4 times this weekend, what's not to like about that? > > I liked TOSH a lot - in effect, TOSH went a fair way towards > satisfying my craving for Space Ritual era heavy acid rock Hawkwind. > I agree with the people who said the drum sound was too aggressive, > that could be just an over-amplification issue. ?I also had a chat > afterward with TOSH's guitar player (Dave's guitar tech) who's an > incredibly nice guy. > > I ran in Dibs in the hall at one point and told him he's my hero - the > fan who becomes a member of the band, which is the best story in the > world! ?Later when a handful of us were having a beer with Niall in > the Porchester, I found out that he's got a very similar story. ?No > wonder the band is looking like such a happy bunch these days. ?;-) > > As for the "main event", both nights were storming gigs. ?The band was > spot on, and they blew the roof off the place. ?Hell, if I never saw a > better gig than that, I'd still count myself a lucky man, because I > saw it *twice*. ?;-) > > Hawkwind... FORTY FUCKING YEARS and still rocking like seven kinds of thunder! > > Last of all, I have to thank Dave Brock, who has never met me, but who > has shaped most of my adult life with his music. > > Steve > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 4 11:06:23 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:06:23 -0700 Subject: Shonen Knife tribute to BOC Message-ID: http://www.imeem.com/artists/shonen_knife/music/e0w5At3c/shonen-knife-blue-oyster-cult-live-bonus-track/ From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Fri Sep 4 11:18:50 2009 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:18:50 -0400 Subject: Shonen Knife tribute to BOC In-Reply-To: <215870.72182.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have the vinyl 45 rpm of this with Picture Sleeve. --EF On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:06:23 -0400, gary shindler wrote: > http://www.imeem.com/artists/shonen_knife/music/e0w5At3c/shonen-knife-blue-oyster-cult-live-bonus-track/ > > > -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 4 12:11:06 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:11:06 -0700 Subject: Shonen Knife tribute to BOC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Like, no like or just because it's BOC-related. I saw Shonen Knife with Nirvana and the Breeders and the stupid Okie audience yelled slurs like "Go back, Japs!" Such an open-minded state. Of course they produce crap like Barth Grooks and Toby Keith so there you go. ________________________________ From: E F To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 10:18:50 AM Subject: Re: Shonen Knife tribute to BOC I have the vinyl 45 rpm of this with Picture Sleeve. ? --EF On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:06:23 -0400, gary shindler wrote: > http://www.imeem.com/artists/shonen_knife/music/e0w5At3c/shonen-knife-blue-oyster-cult-live-bonus-track/ > > > --Until Further Notice, I am Unique From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Fri Sep 4 12:22:52 2009 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:22:52 -0400 Subject: Shonen Knife tribute to BOC In-Reply-To: <476996.34778.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I bought the 45 because it was BOC related and then I got intrigued. I had a customer at the time who had a secretary that was here from Japan studying (she was about 19) and I gave her a tape of the 45. She brought me a Shonen Knife CD the next day and a transalation of the BOC song. I think I bought two other CDs as well. They are a fun band! As for the misplaced Jingoism...yeah, we have that problem here, and not just in the southern states. I'm from NJ (20 minutes outside of Manhattan) and when I first went to visit friends from Texas I called 'Yankee' a lot by the locals. --EF On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 12:11:06 -0400, gary shindler wrote: > Like, no like or just because it's BOC-related. I saw Shonen Knife with > Nirvana and the Breeders and the stupid Okie audience yelled slurs like > "Go back, Japs!" Such an open-minded state. Of course they produce crap > like Barth Grooks and Toby Keith so there you go. > > > > ________________________________ > From: E F > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 10:18:50 AM > Subject: Re: Shonen Knife tribute to BOC > > I have the vinyl 45 rpm of this with Picture Sleeve. > > --EF > > > On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:06:23 -0400, gary shindler > wrote: > >> http://www.imeem.com/artists/shonen_knife/music/e0w5At3c/shonen-knife-blue-oyster-cult-live-bonus-track/ >> >> >> > > > --Until Further Notice, I am Unique > > > > -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Sep 5 03:52:06 2009 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 08:52:06 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: <919e368d0909040546o157e7dedt9d71674957e53f3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Steve, thanks for saying so, it was really good talking to you. The day was great, and met so many old and new friends, though it went by in a bit of a blur. I took a few photos, not a huge amount and not many that were any good. I think it was the light levels - the light show wasn't as bright/good as normal (although it did have its moments) and I didn't get a decent spot to take the pics from. Maybe the Guinness was taking its toll too! I spoke to Neil and Marie of Chaos Illuminations, they said they couldn't do the lightshow as parking impossible and it didn't stack up on this occasion. Which was nice for them as they got to watch the gig as from the crowd, a bit of a novelty I'd think. Anyway, I was a bit p'd off at not getting many decent pics so I decided to take some OK video clips with far from decent sound. These may appear on a video sharing site near you sometime soon...though I do hate it when folk put just snippets of songs on,which is what I'll be doing, sorry! And with that, my memory card was full up. A thoroughly good day, highlights for me were the Mirror of Illusion and the whole of the HW set,with all the blanga. And question time where they said there would be a 2010 Hawkfest. Yay. I need to crank up the 'beast' (my old PC) to get the photos onto tangledwoof.com, so maybe sometime in the next week. Onwards Alan Steve Swann wrote: > Oh and it was also great meeting Alan of Tangledwoof, who I expected > to be a guy with a full professional photographer's rig! Alan, I'm > still flatly amazed that you get the kind of shots you do with that > consumer grade camera - Tangled Woof captures the look and feel of a > Hawkwind concert better than any site I know (it's where I point > people to when ask me "so what's supposed to be so special about this > light show I keep hearing about?"). I'm looking forward to seeing > what you got this time... :) > > Steve > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Steve Swann wrote: > >> Well, hell. I've been trying to do a writeup of the Porchester shows >> now for a couple of days, and there's just too much to cover. So let >> me start with the important thing, by thanking some people. >> >> Mike Holmes and Jill Strobridge - I spent so much time with the two of >> you that you were practically my hosts for the event. After chatting >> online for almost 20 years (!!) it was great to finally meet both of >> you. I had a great time, thanks much for the hospitality. >> Arin & Rich - it was great to meet you, thanks especially for >> introducing me to so many people that I otherwise wouldn't have met. >> We hadn't talked all that much online previously, I see now that was a >> mistake. >> Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you and >> thanks for the good company. >> Bernhard, Christos and Rainer - Glad to make the acquaintance of the >> Kollektor Kings :) I had a great time talking with you guys. >> Maxine & ??? - It was really fun hanging out with you (and damn I'm >> embarrassed at forgetting your friend's name)! Although some day I >> want a coherent explanation of how we ended up in an Austrian bar at >> 2am with guys in lederhosen singing Ein Prosit. It must have been the >> fault of those Dutch guys! >> The Hawkwalk Gang - most especially Jimski for his work in writing up >> and leading the tour. Steve Youles, Steve Bishop, Andreas, Mick, Jon >> and the 20 or so other Hawkfans that I met on the walk... somewhere >> there are a lot of pictures of this group, I hope someone puts them up >> and captions them with people's names for those like me who wouldn't >> remember their head if it wasn't screwed on. >> >> So, the shows. There's been a lot of talk about the quality of the >> pre-show material. Hawkwind doing its Elves of Silly Berry excuse me >> Silbury act, the various other bands and performers, the Q&A sessions, >> Huw, Tarantism, Bob Kerr, et al. I look at it this way. I had >> expected most of the day to be a kind of laid back party with the band >> going on at the end of the day. Instead Hawkwind, various members of >> Hawkwind, and other musical guests were up on stage most of the bloody >> day, giving us a show to watch if we felt like watching it. >> >> I went back and forth between hanging out with the numerous and >> wonderful Hawkfans who I'd never had a chance to meet before and >> watching the various shows on stage. On Friday I watched pretty much >> everything, except for a brief interlude for food (I had ordered from >> the food service, but when I realized that it was going to take 40 >> minutes, Jill and I went out instead). On Saturday I spent more time >> mingling, which had the detrimental effect of causing me to miss the >> Elves' performance of The Only Ones (which they hadn't done on >> Friday). Grrrrrr! But bottom line I thought the performances were a >> great thing. I mean, counting the Elves, I basically got to see >> Hawkwind play 4 times this weekend, what's not to like about that? >> >> I liked TOSH a lot - in effect, TOSH went a fair way towards >> satisfying my craving for Space Ritual era heavy acid rock Hawkwind. >> I agree with the people who said the drum sound was too aggressive, >> that could be just an over-amplification issue. I also had a chat >> afterward with TOSH's guitar player (Dave's guitar tech) who's an >> incredibly nice guy. >> >> I ran in Dibs in the hall at one point and told him he's my hero - the >> fan who becomes a member of the band, which is the best story in the >> world! Later when a handful of us were having a beer with Niall in >> the Porchester, I found out that he's got a very similar story. No >> wonder the band is looking like such a happy bunch these days. ;-) >> >> As for the "main event", both nights were storming gigs. The band was >> spot on, and they blew the roof off the place. Hell, if I never saw a >> better gig than that, I'd still count myself a lucky man, because I >> saw it *twice*. ;-) >> >> Hawkwind... FORTY FUCKING YEARS and still rocking like seven kinds of thunder! >> >> Last of all, I have to thank Dave Brock, who has never met me, but who >> has shaped most of my adult life with his music. >> >> Steve >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2342 - Release Date: 09/02/09 18:03:00 >> >> From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Sep 5 08:24:15 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 07:24:15 -0500 Subject: Shonen Knife tribute to BOC In-Reply-To: <215870.72182.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have a vague feeling I have this track on a Shonen Knife CD -- or maybe a studio version? I now have all my CDs "in da house" again, though I haven't finished digitizing (and, thereby, reacquainting myself with) them all, and this is one of those that still awaits the ripping treatment. I did see them live in Boston some time back in the 90s (when they were still a complete 3-piece). Great, very high energy gig! I think I got a autographs, too ... but I'd have to check that CD! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Sep 4 23:01:52 2009 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:01:52 EDT Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall Message-ID: In a message dated 9/4/2009 8:48:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, swann1066 at GMAIL.COM writes: >Last of all, I have to thank Dave Brock, who has never met me, but who > has shaped most of my adult life with his music. Ditto, ditto, We love Dave Brock....the fucking BEST!!! Thanks for all the fun, Brocky! Bill & Bev From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Sep 7 14:36:28 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:36:28 +0000 Subject: Sloterdijk version of Hawkwind's Golden Void on Youtube Message-ID: I was looking around on youtube and noticed someone had uploaded our version of 'Golden Void' from the 'Daze of The Underground' Hawkwind tribute cd on Godreah Records. No real graphics, just the cover art from the album. Still it feels nice to have had someone take the time the upload the song. The original recording was from a live show; September 30th 2000 ( Live Transmania; actually a biker rally celebrating the 30th anniversary of the, Freedom Riders MC ). I later added one additional keyboard in 2004, and fiddled about with the tracks in the studio. All the very best, Mike Burro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zifM7nb8hP8 http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009 From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 8 17:20:19 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:20:19 -0400 Subject: Hawkind on Planet Rock... Message-ID: Planet RAWK are having a 1 hour special featuring our favourite band on Saturday at 19:00 hours UK time. Be there for??"The Mighty Wind ? Hawkwind at 40" ...or be square. StevePXR5 From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 8 17:28:08 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:28:08 -0400 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: <200908311312.n7VDC78P029131@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: You are welcome! StevePXR5 -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:12 Subject: Re: 40th anniversary Gig To be fair, all the wood panelling in the hall created a great deal of mush in the sound as the walls acted like soundboards. Using my hands to screen my ears from the echo (thanks to whoever gave me that tip) made for a crisper sound, but it's had to go through a gig with your hands cupping your ears. From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 8 17:29:49 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:29:49 -0400 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: <919e368d0908310628n5fb265c9xa15c8a0cd3a05572@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Naaah. ?PXR5 logo. Steve... LOL! I have this vision now of all us showing up at a gig wearing some kind of plastic headband-with-ear-cup contraptions. Maybe we could get them imprinted with a BOC-L logo. ;-) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:28 Subject: Re: 40th anniversary Gig LOL! I have this vision now of all us showing up at a gig wearing some kind of plastic headband-with-ear-cup contraptions. Maybe we could get them imprinted with a BOC-L logo. ;-) Steve On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:12 AM, M Holmes wrote: > Martin Hutchby writes: > >> Yep, quite a good synopsis ?that.......Hawkwind have obviously decided to >> run a yts scheme for soundmen - ?but why did we have to get the guy on his >> first day yesterday ?? > > To be fair, all the wood panelling in the hall created a great deal of > mush in the sound as the walls acted like soundboards. ?Using my hands > to screen my ears from the echo (thanks to whoever gave me that tip) > made for a crisper sound, but it's had to go through a gig with your > hands cupping your ears. ?It's a nice hall to play, but the sound there > is never going to be easy. > > FoFP > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu Sep 10 02:28:15 2009 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:28:15 +0200 Subject: HW 40th Annivesary full review Message-ID: Hello My review is now on line of the show. Enjoy.. http://www.lowcut.dk/joomla/ scott From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Sep 10 12:51:01 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:51:01 +0200 Subject: HW 40th Annivesary full review In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922D42ABDD1@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: Great review Scott !!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:28 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW 40th Annivesary full review Hello My review is now on line of the show. Enjoy.. http://www.lowcut.dk/joomla/ scott From jt_ at COX.NET Thu Sep 10 15:25:21 2009 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:25:21 -0500 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now that this conversation has completely died .. my turn! > This time the band seemed to be "going through the motions". That's too bad. I saw 3OC back in 2000 or so, with Rondinelli and Miranda, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. Even suffered through a random incarnation of Starship, and Foghat, to get to it, and considered it worth it. Certainly enjoyed it more than seeing them on the Club Ninja tour. > Weird song selections too. > Golden Age Of Leather? > Shooting Shark? Man oh man, I would have LOVED to have seen those. And they did Last Days of May? You lucky dog. > No Astronomy. As someone noted, sounds like Eric's lost his voice again so they are tilting in favor of Donald songs. Pity. The "Kiss My Axe (While I Drink My Beer)" goof, while fun, got me worried .. Eric did NOT sound ready to, say, jump back in the studio and record another album, as unlikely as that is. > Please, please, please stop with the Burning For You. The day they retire Burning For You is the day they pry Donald's guitar from his cold fingers. Hmmm .. even if Eric quit, Donald could still put on a fair fascimile of BOC, couldn't he? For not being "the lead singer," he wound up singing the Big Three. I suppose I'd rather see Donald at the lead of a One Oyster Cult than Eric, if they couldn't do the right thing and retire the name. I don't begrudge the guys from still slogging it out, though. I wish history had turned out differently and Imaginos had turned into the rebirth of a second wind for the oyster boys, with Albert on board. But, heck. Alan Parsons is touring and has been for more than a decade. Parsons. Dude didn't play any instruments or sing on any album, and he's fronting a band of musicians that didn't play on any of his albums, for a studio entity that never toured in the first place. Weird. And he's got a devoted enough fan base to keep a mailing list far more active of on-topic content than BOC-L manages to cough up for BOC. Totally weird. I don't begrudge Parsons deciding to turn into a touring act in what otherwise could have been his retirement years. He apparently puts on a show that a bunch of fanatics on the mailing list are willing to go see over and over again. And as long as Eric and Buck have a good time singing at county fairs, well, whatever... I'll go see them again if they ever swing within 100 miles of my location. I miss the late 90s / early 2000s when they were recording again and for a few brief years it actually felt like BOC was a real band again. I think I hold Curse of the Hidden Mirror and Heaven Forbid in far higher regard than a lot of people here, but that's a rant for another day. > Godzilla turned into a huge sing along and then some weird solo noodlings > that had nothing to do with the song. That's not new. Been a solo showcase forever. Maybe it's in the contract they offer the bass and drum players -- "dude! you get to SOLO! Like, for half an hour!" Anyway, I don't begrudge it, other than the fact that it takes time away from other songs they could be doing. Gives you ample time to go hit the beer stand. I still don't know what happened to Allen. Did EB piss him off, or did the ciggies finally damage his health to the point where being on the road wasn't feasible? -- Jeff From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 10 17:22:02 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:22:02 -0700 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <4AA952A1.8050503@cox.net> Message-ID: Looks like they're playing Kansas City Oct. 2 and their group picture still shows Allen. If anybody goes to any of the current shows between that I'd like to see set lists. They are in Newkirk, OK the county seat of my hometown tonight. Don't know if they're worth $25 bucks for the cheap seats here. ? ________________________________ From: Jeff Thompson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:25:21 PM Subject: BOC ravings Now that this conversation has completely died .. my turn! > This time the band seemed to be "going through the motions". That's too bad.? I saw 3OC back in 2000 or so, with Rondinelli and Miranda, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. Even suffered through a random incarnation of Starship, and Foghat, to get to it, and considered it worth it.? Certainly enjoyed it more than seeing them on the Club Ninja tour. > Weird song selections too. > Golden Age Of Leather? > Shooting Shark? Man oh man, I would have LOVED to have seen those.? And they did Last Days of May?? You lucky dog. > No Astronomy. As someone noted, sounds like Eric's lost his voice again so they are tilting in favor of Donald songs.? Pity. The "Kiss My Axe (While I Drink My Beer)" goof, while fun, got me worried .. Eric did NOT sound ready to, say, jump back in the studio and record another album, as unlikely as that is. > Please, please, please stop with the Burning For You. The day they retire Burning For You is the day they pry Donald's guitar from his cold fingers. Hmmm .. even if Eric quit, Donald could still put on a fair fascimile of BOC, couldn't he?? For not being "the lead singer," he wound up singing the Big Three.? I suppose I'd rather see Donald at the lead of a One Oyster Cult than Eric, if they couldn't do the right thing and retire the name. I don't begrudge the guys from still slogging it out, though.? I wish history had turned out differently and Imaginos had turned into the rebirth of a second wind for the oyster boys, with Albert on board. But, heck.? Alan Parsons is touring and has been for more than a decade. Parsons.? Dude didn't play any instruments or sing on any album, and he's fronting a band of musicians that didn't play on any of his albums, for a studio entity that never toured in the first place.? Weird. And he's got a devoted enough fan base to keep a mailing list far more active of on-topic content than BOC-L manages to cough up for BOC. Totally weird. I don't begrudge Parsons deciding to turn into a touring act in what otherwise could have been his retirement years.? He apparently puts on a show that a bunch of fanatics on the mailing list are willing to go see over and over again. And as long as Eric and Buck have a good time singing at county fairs, well, whatever...? I'll go see them again if they ever swing within 100 miles of my location. I miss the late 90s / early 2000s when they were recording again and for a few brief years it actually felt like BOC was a real band again. I think I hold Curse of the Hidden Mirror and Heaven Forbid in far higher regard than a lot of people here, but that's a rant for another day. > Godzilla turned into a huge sing along and then some weird solo noodlings > that had nothing to do with the song. That's not new.? Been a solo showcase forever. Maybe it's in the contract they offer the bass and drum players -- "dude!? you get to SOLO!? Like, for half an hour!" Anyway, I don't begrudge it, other than the fact that it takes time away from other songs they could be doing.? Gives you ample time to go hit the beer stand. I still don't know what happened to Allen.? Did EB piss him off, or did the ciggies finally damage his health to the point where being on the road wasn't feasible? -- Jeff From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Sep 10 17:35:16 2009 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:35:16 +0100 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <4AA952A1.8050503@cox.net> Message-ID: Jeff Thompson wrote: >> This time the band seemed to be "going through the motions". > > That's too bad. I saw 3OC back in 2000 or so, with Rondinelli and > Miranda, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. > > Even suffered through a random incarnation of Starship, and Foghat, > to get to it, and considered it worth it. Certainly enjoyed it more > than seeing them on the Club Ninja tour. I saw the 2OC last year in Manchester, and thought they were still cutting it live - and Eric was on pretty good form. And they even played Astronomy, which was the first time I'd seen the song live. Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though. Drum solos should simply not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos are an abomination no matter who's on bass. -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://twitter.com/kalyr From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 10 17:41:14 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:41:14 -0700 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <4AA97114.4080305@kalyr.com> Message-ID: There's a Michael Anthony bass solo on Youtube with the Jack Daniels whiskey bass that supports your theory. ________________________________ From: Tim Hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:35:16 PM Subject: Re: BOC ravings Jeff Thompson wrote: >> This time the band seemed to be "going through the motions". > > That's too bad.? I saw 3OC back in 2000 or so, with Rondinelli and Miranda, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. > > Even suffered through a random incarnation of Starship, and Foghat, > to get to it, and considered it worth it.? Certainly enjoyed it more > than seeing them on the Club Ninja tour. I saw the 2OC last year in Manchester, and thought they were still cutting it live - and Eric was on pretty good form.? And they even played Astronomy, which was the first time I'd seen the song live. Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though.? Drum solos should simply not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos are an abomination no matter who's on bass. -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://twitter.com/kalyr From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Thu Sep 10 17:52:44 2009 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:52:44 -0400 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <510324.13826.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: gary shindler wrote: > There's a Michael Anthony bass solo on Youtube with the Jack Daniels whiskey bass that supports your theory. > > Ah, but Stu Hamm and Les Claypool exist as counter-arguments Bill > ________________________________ > From: Tim Hall > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:35:16 PM > Subject: Re: BOC ravings > > Jeff Thompson wrote: > >>> This time the band seemed to be "going through the motions". >>> >> That's too bad. I saw 3OC back in 2000 or so, with Rondinelli and Miranda, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. >> >> Even suffered through a random incarnation of Starship, and Foghat, >> to get to it, and considered it worth it. Certainly enjoyed it more >> than seeing them on the Club Ninja tour. >> > > I saw the 2OC last year in Manchester, and thought they were still cutting it live - and Eric was on pretty good form. And they even played Astronomy, which was the first time I'd seen the song live. > > Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though. Drum solos should simply not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos are an abomination no matter who's on bass. > -- Tim > http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > http://twitter.com/kalyr > > > > > From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Thu Sep 10 20:35:34 2009 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:35:34 -0400 Subject: Random BOC song use Message-ID: Just saw the new commercial for the Lincoln MKS and they are using a very stylized electronic version of "Burning For You" in it. Don't know if it's an actual version they are using or one produced just for the commercial. There is a female vocal on it. It sounds pretty good, I actually like it. Nice to see the band (or someone) cashing in a little. --Eric From jt_ at COX.NET Fri Sep 11 01:35:59 2009 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 00:35:59 -0500 Subject: Random BOC song use In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's by a group called "Shiny Toy Guns." It unfortunately has not been made available for purchase ... I couldn't find it anywhere. Looking at their Amazon mp3s, they seem to like doing cover songs, so maybe they'll take it on to a new album. Fingers crossed. -- Jeff E F wrote: > Just saw the new commercial for the Lincoln MKS and they are using a > very stylized electronic version of "Burning For You" in it. Don't know > if it's an actual version they are using or one produced just for the > commercial. There is a female vocal on it. It sounds pretty good, I > actually like it. > Nice to see the band (or someone) cashing in a little. > > --Eric > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 11 09:57:24 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:57:24 -0700 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <4AA9752C.204@ugcs.caltech.edu> Message-ID: I saw Primus in concert about 10 years ago Bill and I am a bass player and respect Claypool but the mix was so high on his bass that I was upset you couldn't hear Ler Lamonde's guitar. I don't know if it was because they were outdoors by a river or what but the sound to me sucked. ________________________________ From: Bill Bradley To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:52:44 PM Subject: Re: BOC ravings gary shindler wrote: > There's a Michael Anthony bass solo on Youtube with the Jack Daniels whiskey bass that supports your theory. >? ? Ah, but Stu Hamm and Les Claypool exist as counter-arguments ? Bill > ________________________________ > From: Tim Hall > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:35:16 PM > Subject: Re: BOC ravings > > Jeff Thompson wrote: >? >>> This time the band seemed to be "going through the motions". >>>? ? ? >> That's too bad.? I saw 3OC back in 2000 or so, with Rondinelli and Miranda, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. >> >> Even suffered through a random incarnation of Starship, and Foghat, >> to get to it, and considered it worth it.? Certainly enjoyed it more >> than seeing them on the Club Ninja tour. >>? ? > > I saw the 2OC last year in Manchester, and thought they were still cutting it live - and Eric was on pretty good form.? And they even played Astronomy, which was the first time I'd seen the song live. > > Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though.? Drum solos should simply not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos are an abomination no matter who's on bass. > -- Tim > http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > http://twitter.com/kalyr > > > >? ? ? ? From charliegrant at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Sep 12 07:30:36 2009 From: charliegrant at NTLWORLD.COM (Chas) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:30:36 +0100 Subject: BOC ravings Message-ID: Try www.hotrails.co.uk - it's a great site and has set lists dating back to the early 1970's .......Charlie (CtGB) ----- Original Message ----- From: "gary shindler" To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Re: BOC ravings Looks like they're playing Kansas City Oct. 2 and their group picture still shows Allen. If anybody goes to any of the current shows between that I'd like to see set lists. They are in Newkirk, OK the county seat of my hometown tonight. Don't know if they're worth $25 bucks for the cheap seats here. ________________________________ From: Jeff Thompson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:25:21 PM Subject: BOC ravings Now that this conversation has completely died .. my turn! > This time the band seemed to be "going through the motions". That's too bad. I saw 3OC back in 2000 or so, with Rondinelli and Miranda, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. Even suffered through a random incarnation of Starship, and Foghat, to get to it, and considered it worth it. Certainly enjoyed it more than seeing them on the Club Ninja tour. > Weird song selections too. > Golden Age Of Leather? > Shooting Shark? Man oh man, I would have LOVED to have seen those. And they did Last Days of May? You lucky dog. > No Astronomy. As someone noted, sounds like Eric's lost his voice again so they are tilting in favor of Donald songs. Pity. The "Kiss My Axe (While I Drink My Beer)" goof, while fun, got me worried .. Eric did NOT sound ready to, say, jump back in the studio and record another album, as unlikely as that is. > Please, please, please stop with the Burning For You. The day they retire Burning For You is the day they pry Donald's guitar from his cold fingers. Hmmm .. even if Eric quit, Donald could still put on a fair fascimile of BOC, couldn't he? For not being "the lead singer," he wound up singing the Big Three. I suppose I'd rather see Donald at the lead of a One Oyster Cult than Eric, if they couldn't do the right thing and retire the name. I don't begrudge the guys from still slogging it out, though. I wish history had turned out differently and Imaginos had turned into the rebirth of a second wind for the oyster boys, with Albert on board. But, heck. Alan Parsons is touring and has been for more than a decade. Parsons. Dude didn't play any instruments or sing on any album, and he's fronting a band of musicians that didn't play on any of his albums, for a studio entity that never toured in the first place. Weird. And he's got a devoted enough fan base to keep a mailing list far more active of on-topic content than BOC-L manages to cough up for BOC. Totally weird. I don't begrudge Parsons deciding to turn into a touring act in what otherwise could have been his retirement years. He apparently puts on a show that a bunch of fanatics on the mailing list are willing to go see over and over again. And as long as Eric and Buck have a good time singing at county fairs, well, whatever... I'll go see them again if they ever swing within 100 miles of my location. I miss the late 90s / early 2000s when they were recording again and for a few brief years it actually felt like BOC was a real band again. I think I hold Curse of the Hidden Mirror and Heaven Forbid in far higher regard than a lot of people here, but that's a rant for another day. > Godzilla turned into a huge sing along and then some weird solo noodlings > that had nothing to do with the song. That's not new. Been a solo showcase forever. Maybe it's in the contract they offer the bass and drum players -- "dude! you get to SOLO! Like, for half an hour!" Anyway, I don't begrudge it, other than the fact that it takes time away from other songs they could be doing. Gives you ample time to go hit the beer stand. I still don't know what happened to Allen. Did EB piss him off, or did the ciggies finally damage his health to the point where being on the road wasn't feasible? -- Jeff From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 12 11:52:01 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:52:01 -0400 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <4AA97114.4080305@kalyr.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Tim Hall wrote: > > Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though. ?Drum solos should > simply not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos are an > abomination no matter who's on bass. Actually, Joe's bass solo when I saw them on the Revolution by Night tour was really cool, and stands out as one of the oddball highlights of my concert going career - even my friends who aren't really big concert goers thought it was great. I got the chance to meet Joe at one point and tell him so; I think my enthusiasm embarrassed him. ;-) Steve From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Sat Sep 12 12:05:06 2009 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:05:06 -0400 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <919e368d0909120852x447ebceav1c5c37357722bd43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have to say that I like Joe's bass solos also. They were ecclectic, well mixed (I love his bass sound live) and he didn't linger. I think the last part is the most important part. I remember Jason Newsted had a nice tasty solo during the "And Justice for All" Tour. Bass solos aside, aren't most solos kind of snoozers? --Eric On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:52:01 -0400, Steve Swann wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Tim Hall wrote: >> >> Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though. Drum solos should >> simply not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos >> are an >> abomination no matter who's on bass. > > Actually, Joe's bass solo when I saw them on the Revolution by Night > tour was really cool, and stands out as one of the oddball highlights > of my concert going career - even my friends who aren't really big > concert goers thought it was great. > > I got the chance to meet Joe at one point and tell him so; I think my > enthusiasm embarrassed him. ;-) > > Steve -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 12 13:47:01 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:47:01 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards Message-ID: So, I had assumed that the signed postcards were "printed" signatures, meaning that the band signed an original postcard, which was then reprinted 1000 times, or however many they made. It didn't seem like an unreasonable assumption, who could in all fairness expect the band to sit down and hand-sign 1000 postcards? We're fans, not torturers! :) Anyway, I was wrong. The signatures on the postcards are originals. The signatures on mine are slightly different from each other in handwriting and positioning on the card (also, one of mine is signed by Huw and the other is not). Holy shit, that's a lot of signing. Thanks guys!! And while I'm thanking the band for their efforts, let me add that it was great of them to come out for the 2nd encore on Friday. I know they were on their feet all bloody day making the event happen, so I appreciate the fact that they came back that one last time, rather than just turning on the house lights and calling it a night. Steve From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Sep 12 13:59:15 2009 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:59:15 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards In-Reply-To: <919e368d0909121047r7b4fe2acu9961e023a7a21f47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You there, Steve? please contact me off list. Ta, Alan Steve Swann wrote: > So, I had assumed that the signed postcards were "printed" signatures, > meaning that the band signed an original postcard, which was then > reprinted 1000 times, or however many they made. It didn't seem like > an unreasonable assumption, who could in all fairness expect the band > to sit down and hand-sign 1000 postcards? We're fans, not torturers! > :) > > Anyway, I was wrong. The signatures on the postcards are originals. > The signatures on mine are slightly different from each other in > handwriting and positioning on the card (also, one of mine is signed > by Huw and the other is not). Holy shit, that's a lot of signing. > > Thanks guys!! > > And while I'm thanking the band for their efforts, let me add that it > was great of them to come out for the 2nd encore on Friday. I know > they were on their feet all bloody day making the event happen, so I > appreciate the fact that they came back that one last time, rather > than just turning on the house lights and calling it a night. > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.92/2364 - Release Date: 09/11/09 17:51:00 > > From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Sat Sep 12 14:04:44 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:04:44 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards In-Reply-To: <919e368d0909121047r7b4fe2acu9961e023a7a21f47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It was a fantastic event Steve. I'm glad it turned out to be so... at last you have had success with a trip to the UK. Hawkwind - the band you can rely on. Steve. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:47 Subject: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards So, I had assumed that the signed postcards were "printed" signatures, meaning that the band signed an original postcard, which was then reprinted 1000 times, or however many they made. It didn't seem like an unreasonable assumption, who could in all fairness expect the band to sit down and hand-sign 1000 postcards? We're fans, not torturers! :) Anyway, I was wrong. The signatures on the postcards are originals. The signatures on mine are slightly different from each other in handwriting and positioning on the card (also, one of mine is signed by Huw and the other is not). Holy shit, that's a lot of signing. Thanks guys!! And while I'm thanking the band for their efforts, let me add that it was great of them to come out for the 2nd encore on Friday. I know they were on their feet all bloody day making the event happen, so I appreciate the fact that they came back that one last time, rather than just turning on the house lights and calling it a night. Steve From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Sat Sep 12 14:08:12 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:08:12 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards In-Reply-To: <4AABE173.4060100@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: You will get a lot of replies to this Alan. Not as many as if you asked Paul to contact you though. Steve. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Taylor To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:59 Subject: Re: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards You there, Steve? please contact me off list. Ta, Alan? ? Steve Swann wrote:? > So, I had assumed that the signed postcards were "printed" signatures,? > meaning that the band signed an original postcard, which was then? > reprinted 1000 times, or however many they made. It didn't seem like? > an unreasonable assumption, who could in all fairness expect the band? > to sit down and hand-sign 1000 postcards? We're fans, not torturers!? > :)? >? > Anyway, I was wrong. The signatures on the postcards are originals.? > The signatures on mine are slightly different from each other in? > handwriting and positioning on the card (also, one of mine is signed? > by Huw and the other is not). Holy shit, that's a lot of signing.? >? > Thanks guys!!? >? > And while I'm thanking the band for their efforts, let me add that it? > was great of them to come out for the 2nd encore on Friday. I know? > they were on their feet all bloody day making the event happen, so I? > appreciate the fact that they came back that one last time, rather? > than just turning on the house lights and calling it a night.? >? > Steve? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------? >? >? > No virus found in this incoming message.? > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.92/2364 - Release Date: 09/11/09 17:51:00? >? > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 13 08:11:09 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:11:09 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards In-Reply-To: <919e368d0909121047r7b4fe2acu9961e023a7a21f47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: my guess is the autographs were an inside joke for Hawkwind on the fans : ) x 2 still, nice to have!!!! On 9/12/09, Steve Swann wrote: > > So, I had assumed that the signed postcards were "printed" signatures, > meaning that the band signed an original postcard, which was then > reprinted 1000 times, or however many they made. It didn't seem like > an unreasonable assumption, who could in all fairness expect the band > to sit down and hand-sign 1000 postcards? We're fans, not torturers! > :) > > Anyway, I was wrong. The signatures on the postcards are originals. > The signatures on mine are slightly different from each other in > handwriting and positioning on the card (also, one of mine is signed > by Huw and the other is not). Holy shit, that's a lot of signing. > > Thanks guys!! > > And while I'm thanking the band for their efforts, let me add that it > was great of them to come out for the 2nd encore on Friday. I know > they were on their feet all bloody day making the event happen, so I > appreciate the fact that they came back that one last time, rather > than just turning on the house lights and calling it a night. > > Steve > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 13 08:18:34 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:18:34 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards In-Reply-To: <17d80c610909130511n15e434c3r70bec2fe6e84db16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: and possibly a preventative measure as well : ) On 9/13/09, mike coleman wrote: > > my guess is the autographs were an inside joke for Hawkwind on the fans : ) > x 2 > still, nice to have!!!! > > > On 9/12/09, Steve Swann wrote: >> >> So, I had assumed that the signed postcards were "printed" signatures, >> meaning that the band signed an original postcard, which was then >> reprinted 1000 times, or however many they made. It didn't seem like >> an unreasonable assumption, who could in all fairness expect the band >> to sit down and hand-sign 1000 postcards? We're fans, not torturers! >> :) >> >> Anyway, I was wrong. The signatures on the postcards are originals. >> The signatures on mine are slightly different from each other in >> handwriting and positioning on the card (also, one of mine is signed >> by Huw and the other is not). Holy shit, that's a lot of signing. >> >> Thanks guys!! >> >> And while I'm thanking the band for their efforts, let me add that it >> was great of them to come out for the 2nd encore on Friday. I know >> they were on their feet all bloody day making the event happen, so I >> appreciate the fact that they came back that one last time, rather >> than just turning on the house lights and calling it a night. >> >> Steve >> > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 13 18:53:57 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:53:57 -0400 Subject: 40th anniversary Gig In-Reply-To: <472435.92906.qm@web24006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Scott, Glad you had a great time. Sorry the sound engineer didn't do his job as well as he should have. I'd think the band would have a permanent sound man. The CDs after the show is a great idea. I enjoyed reading about your time, and am glad you made it. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Samantha Fitzpatrick Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:00 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: 40th anniversary Gig ...I remember someone who knew Huw telling me that he had hearing problems... Sam --- On Sun, 30/8/09, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: 40th anniversary Gig To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Sunday, 30 August, 2009, 10:14 AM Hello All, It was great to meet up with some of the folks from the list, Bernhard, Arin, chris, keith, andreas, etc... What a day it was. Some grreat stuff and some crap stuff. Oh yeah, they gave everyone a nice clotho bag with a special CD only for this event with Jason on it and some of the material is exclusive to this CD. Also a nice card with full authographs. A raffle ticket that as remake of a fake ticket stub from the first gig. I did nto win anything in the raffle but tey gave away some Motorhead crew shirts, LSD25 compilation cds and original huw lloyd lanngton artwork. I really hope that this is the last time that Hawkwind will parade poor old Huw Lloyd Langton out to embarsse him. The poor guy is just a sad pathetic shell of what he used to be. Day started off with Hawkwind with a different name, elves of silsbury hill? And that was pretty cool with dave plaing harmonica and mirror of illusion, green finned demon and some Tim blake tracks, etc.. They played like 45 minjs. Sounds was pretty crap in this hall though and the sound man was only ok. He did not really watch the members so some you never heard if he did not get them into the mix to start with. Next up was TOSH with spacehead guys belting out born to go and the sound was dreadful. Then huw joined them for masters of the universe and ejection and he was noodling away his own world and you could not heard him hardly at all until the end of the gig. Short and not good set. Tartantism were excellent and real surprise. A bit like a folky Culture Shock. The Hawkwind question and answer time was great fun. Richard was inssane with the talking badger. And a bit disruptive as well.? Anyway, the Roadburn DVD will be out in time for the winter tour they said. A new LP will come out next year. They are considering working with a company to provide instant live CDs of their shows. We will see. Bob Keer and his Woople bnd was just fucking weird and bizzare fun. Bob was dave's neighbor in ladbrocke groove in the 60s and was the one who provided a rehearsal place for an early version of Hawkwind. He would play trumpet during Lighthouse at the real Hawkwind gig. 20;15 Huw starts thing soff with Tim blake and plays and old blues song with Dave on harmonica. Then a strange rocky path. Huw basically can't sing at all anymore and then he gets confused and lost if he does and the song goes all wobbly until he finds himself. He is just way way past his time and it is pretty pathetic they parade him out like this. I know all the old people still love him and I used to but he is just sad now. Dave was suppose to come back out and do Hurry on Sundown with Huw but I guess he was just to embarssed as Huw was just out of it. Tim blake stayed on and played harmonica. Huw wanted to leave but was forced to play a few more. Sad.... The real Hawkwind show was a blinder with some pretty cool jamming in some songs. Tim blake was amazing. Great set of tracks and the only guest were mathew wright for silver mahcine backing vocals, capt rizz on silver machine and hassan I sahba and some guy named Daniel? Who played on one track. Sadly the new guy from Tribe of Cro, his guitar was way too low and e played the lead guitar on Lord of light and It's s Easy bt you could not hardly hear him at all. His space effects were great. Magnu, Farenheith 451 )last encore), I have trouble with this keyboard so sorry for all the mistakes.. Great 1hr 45 min HW set. Good lights but not as good as Chaos Illumination used to do. Dancers were very cool. Hawkwind can still deliver a blinding spaced out set..... Great... It is just sad that no one from the 70s except Tim Blake is involved with the band anymore. Let's hope one day they can all come together in the spirit of the music and put all the bullshit baggae aside and just have a good time and play some psychedelic music in the spirit of 1970..... I had a great time. scott ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Sep 14 08:29:04 2009 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:29:04 -0400 Subject: BOC and Bass Message-ID: Drum and bass solos are alright in my book, but one after another breaks up the flow of the concert too much, IMHO (not to mention the fact that BOC's been doing a drum solo in "Godzilla" for the past 30 years!!!). As a bassplayer, I do NOT think bass solos are an abomination (although I'm not skilled enough to pull off a real good one, so I'm happy to not do one*), but (like drum solos) I prefer shorter ones. I saw Stu Hamm playing with Joe Satriani 10 years ago or so and his bass solo was most excellent. I respect Claypool as a bassplayer, but never could get into Primus (as much as I wanted to like them). Michael Anthony is an very solid bassplayer (just saw him with Chickenfoot in Boston last month), but I've also seen that YouTube video and his "solo" was musically uninspiring (it was really more of an opportunity to let him go crazy on stage). * I actually had to do an impromptu bass solo at a gig last year (our first club gig no less) when one of our guitarists broke a string and had to change it (he had brought a spare guitar, but he had broken a string on THAT one in the first set - Murphy's Law) - someone in the crowd yelled out "bass solo" (what a fool), so I took a page from Joe Bouchard's book (figuratively) and started playing the bassline to Pink Floyd's "Money" (something Joe worked into some of his solos in the early 80s). By the way, to the person who mentioned the recent BOC bass solo and being confused by it, I suspect you are talking about the intro Eric gives to Rudy Szarzo, where he gives a brief musical history of Rudy, punctuated by the band playing snippets of "Metal Health" (Quiet Riot), "Still of the Night" (Whitesnake), and "Crazy Train" (Ozzy Osbourne) - I found that rather entertaining. John > -----Original Message----- > From: gary shindler [mailto:bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: BOC ravings > > I saw Primus in concert about 10 years ago Bill and I am a bass player and > respect Claypool but the mix was so high on his bass that I was upset you > couldn't hear Ler Lamonde's guitar. I don't know if it was because they > were outdoors by a river or what but the sound to me sucked. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Bradley > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:52:44 PM > Subject: Re: BOC ravings > > gary shindler wrote: > > There's a Michael Anthony bass solo on Youtube with the Jack Daniels > whiskey bass that supports your theory. > > > ? Ah, but Stu Hamm and Les Claypool exist as counter-arguments > > ? Bill > > > ________________________________ > > From: Tim Hall > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:35:16 PM > > Subject: Re: BOC ravings > > > > Jeff Thompson wrote: > > > >>> This time the band seemed to be "going through the motions". > >>> > >> That's too bad.? I saw 3OC back in 2000 or so, with Rondinelli and > Miranda, and I enjoyed the heck out of it. > >> > >> Even suffered through a random incarnation of Starship, and Foghat, > >> to get to it, and considered it worth it.? Certainly enjoyed it more > >> than seeing them on the Club Ninja tour. > >> > > > > I saw the 2OC last year in Manchester, and thought they were still > cutting it live - and Eric was on pretty good form.? And they even played > Astronomy, which was the first time I'd seen the song live. > > > > Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though.? Drum solos should > simply not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos are an > abomination no matter who's on bass. > > -- Tim > > http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > > http://twitter.com/kalyr > > > > > > > > > > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 14 11:06:12 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:06:12 -0700 Subject: 2OC in Newkirk, OK Message-ID: http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/concertsBOCOK.htm My comrade Jeb Wright had lots of good words to say about 2OC's gig in Newkirk, OK Thursday. He doesn't mention that they were sharing a bill with Billy Squier. Gary From tjackson at SYR.EDU Mon Sep 14 11:25:18 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:25:18 -0400 Subject: 2OC in Newkirk, OK In-Reply-To: <724573.96632.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow, Seven whole songs! Did people actually pay to see this or was it a freebie? tj -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:06 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: 2OC in Newkirk, OK http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/concertsBOCOK.htm My comrade Jeb Wright had lots of good words to say about 2OC's gig in Newkirk, OK Thursday. He doesn't mention that they were sharing a bill with Billy Squier. Gary From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Mon Sep 14 11:30:40 2009 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:30:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: RIP Jim Carroll Message-ID: JAMES DENNIS ?JIM? CARROLL, 60, a punk -ock outlaw poet and author who chronicled his wild youth in The Basketball Diaries, later made into a movie with Leonardo DiCaprio, died of a heart attack last Friday in his Manhattan home, according music business attorney Rosemary Carroll, his former wife. Carroll?s chaotic life combined sports, drugs and poetry, chronicled in his book, made into the 1995 film. After briefly attending Wagner College on Staten Island and Columbia University, he found his way to Andy Warhol?s Factory, contributing dialogue for Warhol?s films. Later he worked as a studio assistant for the painter Larry Rivers and lived with Patti Smith and photographer Robert Mapplethorpe. His debut album, Catholic Boy, included ?People Who Died,? a litany of his friends, which was featured in the movie E.T. Two more albums, Dry Dreams (1982) and I Write Your Name (1984) followed. He published several more poetry collections? The Book of Nods (1986), Fear of Dreaming (1993) and Void of Course: Poems 1994-1997 (1998)?as well as releasing several spoken-word albums. From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 14 12:54:52 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:54:52 -0700 Subject: 2OC in Newkirk, OK In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E82013B56E8B3@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Jeb said it was an hour set. I know a facebook friend commented on her 60something parents enjoying the Billy Squier set (think O'Cult were openers). ________________________________ From: Theodore O Jackson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:25:18 AM Subject: Re: 2OC in Newkirk, OK Wow, Seven whole songs!? Did people actually pay to see this or was it a freebie? tj -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:06 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: 2OC in Newkirk, OK http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/concertsBOCOK.htm My comrade Jeb Wright had lots of good words to say about 2OC's gig in Newkirk, OK Thursday. He doesn't mention that they were sharing a bill with Billy Squier. Gary From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 15 08:02:14 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:02:14 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind goodie bags, signed postcards In-Reply-To: Steve Swann's message of Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:47:01 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 15 08:04:03 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:04:03 +0100 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: Steve Swann's message of Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:52:01 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 15 08:27:36 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:27:36 +0100 Subject: [mary: Re: 40th anniversary Gig] Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 15 20:25:08 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:25:08 -0500 Subject: (was OFF)Re: Be Seeing You? Message-ID: On 8/21/09, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 3:27 AM, mike coleman wrote: > > Having just been gifted a nice new big one, and the thrill of refusing to >> chase a goverment coupon to get a digital converter so I can watch it >> waning, I'm thinking erasable coloured markers might be the next logical >> step...... >> > > You've missed the boat my old friend. The deadline for applying for a > coupon was 31st July. So, unless your powers of forgery are good, it looks > like you've missed out on the $40 bung. But not any longer......having just passed on a coupon handout, I continued on my rebellion course. Free combobulator being delivered in short order. What I want now, is a video-game like device to cause explosions and various nasty things at any given push of a button or 2 , so I can nuke the image and the audio too.......maybe a little gun to shoot at the people on the screen From crimsonmirrors at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 15 20:23:34 2009 From: crimsonmirrors at GMAIL.COM (Sybaelle) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:23:34 -0500 Subject: (was OFF)Re: Be Seeing You? In-Reply-To: <17d80c610909151725oe022c63ifac65e7997b67157@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: In other words you want Grand Theft Auto with all the cheats. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:25 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: (was OFF)Re: Be Seeing You? On 8/21/09, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 3:27 AM, mike coleman wrote: > > Having just been gifted a nice new big one, and the thrill of refusing to >> chase a goverment coupon to get a digital converter so I can watch it >> waning, I'm thinking erasable coloured markers might be the next logical >> step...... >> > > You've missed the boat my old friend. The deadline for applying for a > coupon was 31st July. So, unless your powers of forgery are good, it looks > like you've missed out on the $40 bung. But not any longer......having just passed on a coupon handout, I continued on my rebellion course. Free combobulator being delivered in short order. What I want now, is a video-game like device to cause explosions and various nasty things at any given push of a button or 2 , so I can nuke the image and the audio too.......maybe a little gun to shoot at the people on the screen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.96/2369 - Release Date: 09/15/09 05:59:00 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 15 20:40:52 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:40:52 -0500 Subject: (was OFF)Re: Be Seeing You? In-Reply-To: <01be01ca3663$eef3fcb0$ccdbf610$@com> Message-ID: no, absolutely not. I just want to blow people up. real people. talking heads. people unlike me who always have something worth saying. On 9/15/09, Sybaelle wrote: > > In other words you want Grand Theft Auto with all the cheats. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:25 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: (was OFF)Re: Be Seeing You? > > On 8/21/09, Paul Mather wrote: > > > > On Aug 21, 2009, at 3:27 AM, mike coleman wrote: > > > > Having just been gifted a nice new big one, and the thrill of refusing to > >> chase a goverment coupon to get a digital converter so I can watch it > >> waning, I'm thinking erasable coloured markers might be the next logical > >> step...... > >> > > > > You've missed the boat my old friend. The deadline for applying for a > > coupon was 31st July. So, unless your powers of forgery are good, it > looks > > like you've missed out on the $40 bung. > > > But not any longer......having just passed on a coupon handout, I continued > on my rebellion course. Free combobulator being delivered in short order. > What I want now, is a video-game like device to cause explosions and > various > nasty things at any given push of a button or 2 , so I can nuke the image > and the audio too.......maybe a little gun to shoot at the people on the > screen > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.96/2369 - Release Date: 09/15/09 > 05:59:00 > From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Sep 16 05:07:30 2009 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:07:30 +0200 Subject: [mary: Re: 40th anniversary Gig] Message-ID: > Hi Scott, > Glad you had a great time. Sorry the sound engineer didn't do his job > as well as he should have. Message-ID: I observed how Chris did sound, and gave him my opinion if someone was too low in the mix. I like the idea about the ears. Hope you're well. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:07 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: [mary: Re: 40th anniversary Gig] > Hi Scott, > Glad you had a great time. Sorry the sound engineer didn't do his job > as well as he should have. Message-ID: Never mind about Dave, I realized that was Steve posting that he hadn't met him. I know you have. Love, Mary and Kosh -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In a message dated 9/4/2009 8:48:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, swann1066 at GMAIL.COM writes: >Last of all, I have to thank Dave Brock, who has never met me, but who >has shaped most of my adult life with his music. Ditto, ditto, We love Dave Brock....the fucking BEST!!! Thanks for all the fun, Brocky! Bill & Bev From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Sep 16 09:28:15 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:28:15 +0100 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <4AA97114.4080305@kalyr.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Tim Hall wrote: > Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though. Drum solos should simply > not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos are an > abomination no matter who's on bass. My exceptions for drum soloes would be Carl Palmer, who's just like a circus stunt to watch, and Jean-Paul Gaster of Clutch and he Bakerton Group, who soloes in such a way that you don't have to stop dancing. I would have said that there were no exceptions for bass either, but I was just listening to East of Eden's _Mercator Projected_ this morning and I have to say, if there is one it might be Steve York's in `Centaur Woman'. Rather alarmingly, I find he's on MySpace, and seems to have wound up as bassman for Vinegar Joe, Laura Branigan and Elkie Brooks and now plays Latin folk. It, er, doesn't sound quite as virtuoso. Oh well. He's at: http://www.myspace.com/steveyorkbassist Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 16 09:45:50 2009 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:45:50 +0000 Subject: BOC ravings Message-ID: Maybe I've missed it, but Chris Squire's bass solos are epic.... He plays it like a lead guitar. Just fantastic. I'd watch him anytime soloing. Sent from my Verizon Storm From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 16 10:01:35 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:01:35 -0700 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I heard Asia's live album from their reunion tour and Palmer's drumming sounded off. Sure he can do the fills but keeping the beat is really what it's about. ?? ________________________________ From: Jonathan Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:28:15 AM Subject: Re: BOC ravings On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Tim Hall wrote: > Could do without all the solos in Godzilla, though.? Drum solos should simply not be allowed unless your name is Neil Peart, and bass solos are an abomination no matter who's on bass. ??? My exceptions for drum soloes would be Carl Palmer, who's just like a circus stunt to watch, and Jean-Paul Gaster of Clutch and he Bakerton Group, who soloes in such a way that you don't have to stop dancing. I would have said that there were no exceptions for bass either, but I was just listening to East of Eden's _Mercator Projected_ this morning and I have to say, if there is one it might be Steve York's in `Centaur Woman'. Rather alarmingly, I find he's on MySpace, and seems to have wound up as bassman for Vinegar Joe, Laura Branigan and Elkie Brooks and now plays Latin folk. It, er, doesn't sound quite as virtuoso. Oh well. He's at: http://www.myspace.com/steveyorkbassist Yours, ??? Jon --? ? ? Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge? ? jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ? ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man.? With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Robert Anton Wilson From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 16 10:02:16 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:02:16 -0700 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <2132035453-1253108748-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1259153465-@bda852.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I have loved Squire's album "Fish Out of Water" since I was a teenager. Good stuff. ________________________________ From: Mike Montfort To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:45:50 AM Subject: Re: BOC ravings Maybe I've missed it, but Chris Squire's bass solos are epic.... He plays it like a lead guitar. Just fantastic. I'd watch him anytime soloing. Sent from my Verizon Storm From tjackson at SYR.EDU Wed Sep 16 10:18:19 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:18:19 -0400 Subject: BOC ravings In-Reply-To: <115521.9532.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I heard Asia's live album from their reunion tour and Palmer's drumming sounded off. Sure he can do the fills but keeping the beat is really what it's about. ?? In that case, listen to his solo in Karn Evil 9 [1st impression] on Welcome Back My friends... His right foot never stops for about 5 minutes and keeps perfect time throughout the dizzying solo. Dislike ELP all ya want, but that guy can flat-out bring it, or at least he could back then... tj From steve.bishop at DB.COM Thu Sep 17 13:17:56 2009 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:17:56 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Forum In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E82013B56E8BA@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Anyone else having problems accessing the Hawkwind Free Forum from the Hawkwind web site ?! --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Thu Sep 17 13:48:19 2009 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:48:19 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Forum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:17:56 +0100, you sent through the ether: >Anyone else having problems accessing the Hawkwind Free Forum from the >Hawkwind web site ?! Yup seems to be broken.. Feel free to chat on the Krankschaft forum in the meantime, and also maybe take a listen to the audio trailer for our imminent album! :o) www.krankschaft.com -S. From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 17 20:00:11 2009 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:00:11 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Forum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It seems to have changed to a new style... new software. The new Krankshaft album should be good. I'm even more interested by the idea of the next album based around "Ode to the Sun." The notes and drawings which Bob made where quite intriguing. 2009/9/18 Steve Pond > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:17:56 +0100, you sent through the ether: > > >Anyone else having problems accessing the Hawkwind Free Forum from the > >Hawkwind web site ?! > > > Yup seems to be broken.. > > Feel free to chat on the Krankschaft forum in the meantime, and also > maybe take a listen to the audio trailer for our imminent album! :o) > > www.krankschaft.com > > -S. > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 18 11:33:26 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:33:26 -0700 Subject: Flaming Lips Message-ID: Listening to stream of their new album and noticed in their lyrics they mention a "Silver Machine." The album is out there and I think it's pretty good. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Sep 18 13:37:25 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:37:25 +0100 Subject: Litmus - Bull and Gate 12.09.09 In-Reply-To: <1857.1251745307@litmusmusic.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Litmus wrote: > Litmus are playing a "special" at the Bull & Gate in Kentish Town on > Saturday September 12th. This will be one of those occasions when > the band get to play a really long set with no support acts. The > infamous Litmus psychedelic lightshow will, of course, be there! This was an excellent gig, a real return to form after me seeing too many gigs in a row where the sound was bad, Martin was ill etc. This time everyone was well and the sound, once the keyboards had been adjusted up in the first break, was perfect: I heard words I've never been able to make out before, and indeed, Simon seemed to be trying harder with his singing than usual and had some new ideas for the guitar during the breaks, into which Olly the new keyboard player has managed to force himself. Whenever the band got locked into a jam in one of the many lengthy breaks, I'd look round at Olly after a minute or two and find him tapping a few keys that fit perfectly and occasionally even managing to rev the whole band up by an swirling build-up of tension. This is how it should be, I am very pleased by this tendency. I won't give a set-list because Colin can do it better than I can, but special mention must be made of the pair of songs Martin introduced apparently as part of an argument with someone about whether Blodwyn Pig were the best band to come out of Birmingham or not. He prefaced that explanation with the words, "This is for all the people who call us a second-hand second-rate rehash of Hawkwind. I'll have you know, we can be a second-hand second-rate rehash of *any band you care to name*" and then they played Duran Duran's `Planet Earth' and Black Sabbath's `Symptom of the Universe', barely pausing for breath, concluding with the remark, "It's not Blodwyn Pig, is it?" Both versions were excellent; I personally have been waiting for someone to recpature `Planet Earth' for spacerock since I first heard it. And `Symptom' sounds *really weird* without screeched Brummy vocals. Anyway. They then did one track off the second and four-fifths of the first demo, so it was a pretty unexpected set all things considered. The main surprise was how little of _You Are Here_ there was, I think only the first track! I am getting too old for my old dancefloor antics; my back and neck were killing me for a couple of days afterwards, and my ears only stopped buzzing some time Monday, but it was all worth it. I hope the next gig is sooner than they seemed to think it would be. > The new album "Aurora" is now available in shops and from the band's > online shop [1] . I bought it, have played it, and will have to live with it a while longer before giving some kind of view. I'm certainly not as immediately struck with it as was Carl, but I want to give it a proper chance before opining. Tell you what though, I'm already really excited for the next one... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Sep 19 16:23:27 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:23:27 +0000 Subject: Litmus - Bull and Gate 12.09.09 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just to complete Jon's review, the setlist was: Infinity Drive Destroy the Mothership Tempest Beyond the Sun In the Burning Light Eos Miles Away Stars Kings of Infinite Space Sonic Light Under The Sign Planet Earth Symptom of the Universe Ma:55oN Rift Red Skies The Temple Twinstar Evil Earthbound I make that 2 songs from You Are Here:). Thanks to everyone who came; we certainly enjoyed it! Colin --- On Fri, 18/9/09, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: From: Jonathan Jarrett Subject: Re: Litmus - Bull and Gate 12.09.09 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, 18 September, 2009, 6:37 PM On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Litmus wrote: > Litmus are playing a "special" at the Bull & Gate in Kentish Town on > Saturday September 12th.? This will be one of those occasions when > the band get to play a really long set with no support acts.? The > infamous Litmus psychedelic lightshow will, of course, be there! ??? This was an excellent gig, a real return to form after me seeing too many gigs in a row where the sound was bad, Martin was ill etc. This time everyone was well and the sound, once the keyboards had been adjusted up in the first break, was perfect: I heard words I've never been able to make out before, and indeed, Simon seemed to be trying harder with his singing than usual and had some new ideas for the guitar during the breaks, into which Olly the new keyboard player has managed to force himself. Whenever the band got locked into a jam in one of the many lengthy breaks, I'd look round at Olly after a minute or two and find him tapping a few keys that fit perfectly and occasionally even managing to rev the whole band up by an swirling build-up of tension. This is how it should be, I am very pleased by this tendency. ??? I won't give a set-list because Colin can do it better than I can, but special mention must be made of the pair of songs Martin introduced apparently as part of an argument with someone about whether Blodwyn Pig were the best band to come out of Birmingham or not. He prefaced that explanation with the words, "This is for all the people who call us a second-hand second-rate rehash of Hawkwind. I'll have you know, we can be a second-hand second-rate rehash of *any band you care to name*" and then they played Duran Duran's `Planet Earth' and Black Sabbath's `Symptom of the Universe', barely pausing for breath, concluding with the remark, "It's not Blodwyn Pig, is it?" Both versions were excellent; I personally have been waiting for someone to recpature `Planet Earth' for spacerock since I first heard it. And `Symptom' sounds *really weird* without screeched Brummy vocals. Anyway. They then did one track off the second and four-fifths of the first demo, so it was a pretty unexpected set all things considered. The main surprise was how little of _You Are Here_ there was, I think only the first track! ??? I am getting too old for my old dancefloor antics; my back and neck were killing me for a couple of days afterwards, and my ears only stopped buzzing some time Monday, but it was all worth it. I hope the next gig is sooner than they seemed to think it would be. > The new album "Aurora" is now available in shops and from the band's > online shop [1] . ??? I bought it, have played it, and will have to live with it a while longer before giving some kind of view. I'm certainly not as immediately struck with it as was Carl, but I want to give it a proper chance before opining. Tell you what though, I'm already really excited for the next one... Yours, ??? ??? Jon --? ? ???Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge? ? jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ???======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man.? With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???-Robert Anton Wilson From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Sep 20 14:39:34 2009 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:39:34 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com SEPTEMBER 20, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOW: AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #224). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #224) Secret Saucer ? ?Light Years Away? (from Tri-Angle Waves) Litmus ? ?In The Burning Light? (from Aurora) Fell ? ?Dust On Countertops? (from Incoherent Lullabies) Man in Space ? ?Bright Purple Spacecraft? (from How To Potty Train A Supernova) Nifty Eagu + The Glo-Pilots ? ?Coco Left The Door Open? (from Ezoteric) VAS DEFERENS ORGANIZATION SET Shits and Giggles ? ?More Valium On The Mellotron? (from Trick or Treat) Vas Deferens Organization ? ?Purple Aerosol? (from Saturation) Vas Deferens Organization ? ?Entrees? (from Drug Bubbles) Vas Deferens Organization ? ?Perpetual Motion Motors for Parasol Wielding Parisians? (from The Idiot Parade) SubArachnoid Space ? ?Akathesia? (from Eight Bells) Gestalt-Risla ? ?Yesterday?s Future? (unreleased) Dave Fuglewicz ? ?Empty (and waiting)? (from Tapergerm download) Scarlet Utopia ? ?Omega Space Walk? (from Adventures Under Black Light) TRIGON 20TH ANNIVERSARY SET Trigon ? ?In Trance? (from Live 2007 DVD) Trigon ? ?Ein Ton Schr?gt Durch Den Rauch? (from Continuum) Trigon ? ?You Do Fr?send? (from Herzberg 2004) Trigon ? ?Lederne Beistelldamen? (from Emergent) Trigon ? ?Wenn Wir Dich Rauchen Schreien Wir? (from Artrock-Festival Live 2003) Trev and Kev ? ?Watching The Grass Grow? (from Live at the Cosmic Puffin) Instant Drone Factory ? ?Out Of The Chaos? (from Ho Avuto Paura Del Mare) Little Fyodor ? ?The God Gripe Song? (from Peace is Boring) Hidria Spacefolk ? ?Astroban? (from Balansia) Tribe of Cro ? ?And the Ants Marched (On)? (from Hydroculture) http://Aural-Innovations.com From christian.c.carlsson at ERICSSON.COM Thu Sep 24 09:58:16 2009 From: christian.c.carlsson at ERICSSON.COM (Christian Carlsson C) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:58:16 +0200 Subject: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: A<92A8B7E0A29F44468DABA78D2941B013@kranman> Message-ID: Does somebody know something about this? Regards, Christian _________________________________________ Save a tree...please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jerry Kranitz Sent: den 20 september 2009 20:40 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show http://Aural-Innovations.com SEPTEMBER 20, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOW: AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #224). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #224) Secret Saucer - "Light Years Away" (from Tri-Angle Waves) Litmus - "In The Burning Light" (from Aurora) Fell - "Dust On Countertops" (from Incoherent Lullabies) Man in Space - "Bright Purple Spacecraft" (from How To Potty Train A Supernova) Nifty Eagu + The Glo-Pilots - "Coco Left The Door Open" (from Ezoteric) VAS DEFERENS ORGANIZATION SET Shits and Giggles - "More Valium On The Mellotron" (from Trick or Treat) Vas Deferens Organization - "Purple Aerosol" (from Saturation) Vas Deferens Organization - "Entrees" (from Drug Bubbles) Vas Deferens Organization - "Perpetual Motion Motors for Parasol Wielding Parisians" (from The Idiot Parade) SubArachnoid Space - "Akathesia" (from Eight Bells) Gestalt-Risla - "Yesterday's Future" (unreleased) Dave Fuglewicz - "Empty (and waiting)" (from Tapergerm download) Scarlet Utopia - "Omega Space Walk" (from Adventures Under Black Light) TRIGON 20TH ANNIVERSARY SET Trigon - "In Trance" (from Live 2007 DVD) Trigon - "Ein Ton Schr?gt Durch Den Rauch" (from Continuum) Trigon - "You Do Fr?send" (from Herzberg 2004) Trigon - "Lederne Beistelldamen" (from Emergent) Trigon - "Wenn Wir Dich Rauchen Schreien Wir" (from Artrock-Festival Live 2003) Trev and Kev - "Watching The Grass Grow" (from Live at the Cosmic Puffin) Instant Drone Factory - "Out Of The Chaos" (from Ho Avuto Paura Del Mare) Little Fyodor - "The God Gripe Song" (from Peace is Boring) Hidria Spacefolk - "Astroban" (from Balansia) Tribe of Cro - "And the Ants Marched (On)" (from Hydroculture) http://Aural-Innovations.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 25 02:45:12 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:45:12 -0500 Subject: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: <8584D5E8B400FD418DDEC6B93F177B9D01A88D39@esealmw115.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: KO I ma gnikaerb ecnelis tuoba siht meti, hcihw I was tuoba a keew oga eud ot ym llew-detcennoc erutan (hsulb), tub ym noitamrofni si yzzuf dna detimil....... Eht ruomur si tsuj 001 seipoc edam.... This posting was in my spam folder which has me baffled as I do not put forum members into spam (puts imaginary but certainly un-named hand on chin) Mike On 9/24/09, Christian Carlsson C wrote: > > Does somebody know something about this? > < > http://www.tradera.com/HAWKWIND-Warrior--Japan-Picture-disc-LP-ULTRA-RARE-auktion_98705748 > > > > Regards, Christian > _________________________________________ > > Save a tree...please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On Behalf Of Jerry Kranitz > Sent: den 20 september 2009 20:40 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show > > http://Aural-Innovations.com > > SEPTEMBER 20, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOW: AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO > > I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show > #224). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day > in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio > shows page at: > http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html > > Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #224) > > Secret Saucer - "Light Years Away" (from Tri-Angle Waves) > Litmus - "In The Burning Light" (from Aurora) > Fell - "Dust On Countertops" (from Incoherent Lullabies) > Man in Space - "Bright Purple Spacecraft" (from How To Potty Train A > Supernova) > Nifty Eagu + The Glo-Pilots - "Coco Left The Door Open" (from Ezoteric) > > VAS DEFERENS ORGANIZATION SET > > Shits and Giggles - "More Valium On The Mellotron" (from Trick or Treat) > Vas Deferens Organization - "Purple Aerosol" (from Saturation) > Vas Deferens Organization - "Entrees" (from Drug Bubbles) > Vas Deferens Organization - "Perpetual Motion Motors for Parasol Wielding > Parisians" (from The Idiot Parade) > > SubArachnoid Space - "Akathesia" (from Eight Bells) > Gestalt-Risla - "Yesterday's Future" (unreleased) > Dave Fuglewicz - "Empty (and waiting)" (from Tapergerm download) > Scarlet Utopia - "Omega Space Walk" (from Adventures Under Black Light) > > TRIGON 20TH ANNIVERSARY SET > > Trigon - "In Trance" (from Live 2007 DVD) > Trigon - "Ein Ton Schr?gt Durch Den Rauch" (from Continuum) > Trigon - "You Do Fr?send" (from Herzberg 2004) > Trigon - "Lederne Beistelldamen" (from Emergent) > Trigon - "Wenn Wir Dich Rauchen Schreien Wir" (from Artrock-Festival Live > 2003) > > Trev and Kev - "Watching The Grass Grow" (from Live at the Cosmic Puffin) > Instant Drone Factory - "Out Of The Chaos" (from Ho Avuto Paura Del Mare) > Little Fyodor - "The God Gripe Song" (from Peace is Boring) > Hidria Spacefolk - "Astroban" (from Balansia) > Tribe of Cro - "And the Ants Marched (On)" (from Hydroculture) > > http://Aural-Innovations.com > From grison at TELIA.COM Fri Sep 25 06:57:46 2009 From: grison at TELIA.COM (Mats Johansson) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:57:46 +0200 Subject: SV: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: <17d80c610909242345m7c93a811v45719b67444c7711@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It seems like a late 70?s release, by looking at the pictures on the insert. The price is not at par with my desire to own this item. -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]F?r mike coleman Skickat: den 25 september 2009 08:45 Till: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET ?mne: Re: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE KO I ma gnikaerb ecnelis tuoba siht meti, hcihw I was tuoba a keew oga eud ot ym llew-detcennoc erutan (hsulb), tub ym noitamrofni si yzzuf dna detimil....... Eht ruomur si tsuj 001 seipoc edam.... This posting was in my spam folder which has me baffled as I do not put forum members into spam (puts imaginary but certainly un-named hand on chin) Mike On 9/24/09, Christian Carlsson C wrote: > > Does somebody know something about this? > < > http://www.tradera.com/HAWKWIND-Warrior--Japan-Picture-disc-LP-ULTRA-RARE-au ktion_98705748 > > > > Regards, Christian > _________________________________________ > > Save a tree...please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On Behalf Of Jerry Kranitz > Sent: den 20 september 2009 20:40 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show > > http://Aural-Innovations.com > > SEPTEMBER 20, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOW: AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO > > I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show > #224). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day > in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio > shows page at: > http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html > > Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #224) > > Secret Saucer - "Light Years Away" (from Tri-Angle Waves) > Litmus - "In The Burning Light" (from Aurora) > Fell - "Dust On Countertops" (from Incoherent Lullabies) > Man in Space - "Bright Purple Spacecraft" (from How To Potty Train A > Supernova) > Nifty Eagu + The Glo-Pilots - "Coco Left The Door Open" (from Ezoteric) > > VAS DEFERENS ORGANIZATION SET > > Shits and Giggles - "More Valium On The Mellotron" (from Trick or Treat) > Vas Deferens Organization - "Purple Aerosol" (from Saturation) > Vas Deferens Organization - "Entrees" (from Drug Bubbles) > Vas Deferens Organization - "Perpetual Motion Motors for Parasol Wielding > Parisians" (from The Idiot Parade) > > SubArachnoid Space - "Akathesia" (from Eight Bells) > Gestalt-Risla - "Yesterday's Future" (unreleased) > Dave Fuglewicz - "Empty (and waiting)" (from Tapergerm download) > Scarlet Utopia - "Omega Space Walk" (from Adventures Under Black Light) > > TRIGON 20TH ANNIVERSARY SET > > Trigon - "In Trance" (from Live 2007 DVD) > Trigon - "Ein Ton Schr?gt Durch Den Rauch" (from Continuum) > Trigon - "You Do Fr?send" (from Herzberg 2004) > Trigon - "Lederne Beistelldamen" (from Emergent) > Trigon - "Wenn Wir Dich Rauchen Schreien Wir" (from Artrock-Festival Live > 2003) > > Trev and Kev - "Watching The Grass Grow" (from Live at the Cosmic Puffin) > Instant Drone Factory - "Out Of The Chaos" (from Ho Avuto Paura Del Mare) > Little Fyodor - "The God Gripe Song" (from Peace is Boring) > Hidria Spacefolk - "Astroban" (from Balansia) > Tribe of Cro - "And the Ants Marched (On)" (from Hydroculture) > > http://Aural-Innovations.com > From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Fri Sep 25 07:41:20 2009 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 06:41:20 -0500 Subject: SV: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lol, thats a nice way way of saying it's too freaking expensive, although if it is the real deal and there are only 100 copies, then then perhaps thats not too much money ;-) Very Pretty anyway. Rich W. Mats Johansson wrote: > It seems like a late 70?s release, by looking at the pictures on the insert. > The price is not at par with my desire to own this item. > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fr?n: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]F?r mike coleman > Skickat: den 25 september 2009 08:45 > Till: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > ?mne: Re: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE > > > KO > I ma gnikaerb ecnelis tuoba siht meti, hcihw I was tuoba a keew oga eud ot > ym llew-detcennoc erutan (hsulb), tub ym noitamrofni si yzzuf dna > detimil....... > Eht ruomur si tsuj 001 seipoc edam.... > > This posting was in my spam folder which has me baffled as I do not put > forum members into spam > (puts imaginary but certainly un-named hand on chin) > Mike > > > On 9/24/09, Christian Carlsson C wrote: > >> Does somebody know something about this? >> < >> >> > http://www.tradera.com/HAWKWIND-Warrior--Japan-Picture-disc-LP-ULTRA-RARE-au > ktion_98705748 > >> Regards, Christian >> _________________________________________ >> >> Save a tree...please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On Behalf Of Jerry Kranitz >> Sent: den 20 september 2009 20:40 >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show >> >> http://Aural-Innovations.com >> >> SEPTEMBER 20, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOW: AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO >> >> I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show >> #224). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day >> in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio >> shows page at: >> http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html >> >> Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #224) >> >> Secret Saucer - "Light Years Away" (from Tri-Angle Waves) >> Litmus - "In The Burning Light" (from Aurora) >> Fell - "Dust On Countertops" (from Incoherent Lullabies) >> Man in Space - "Bright Purple Spacecraft" (from How To Potty Train A >> Supernova) >> Nifty Eagu + The Glo-Pilots - "Coco Left The Door Open" (from Ezoteric) >> >> VAS DEFERENS ORGANIZATION SET >> >> Shits and Giggles - "More Valium On The Mellotron" (from Trick or Treat) >> Vas Deferens Organization - "Purple Aerosol" (from Saturation) >> Vas Deferens Organization - "Entrees" (from Drug Bubbles) >> Vas Deferens Organization - "Perpetual Motion Motors for Parasol Wielding >> Parisians" (from The Idiot Parade) >> >> SubArachnoid Space - "Akathesia" (from Eight Bells) >> Gestalt-Risla - "Yesterday's Future" (unreleased) >> Dave Fuglewicz - "Empty (and waiting)" (from Tapergerm download) >> Scarlet Utopia - "Omega Space Walk" (from Adventures Under Black Light) >> >> TRIGON 20TH ANNIVERSARY SET >> >> Trigon - "In Trance" (from Live 2007 DVD) >> Trigon - "Ein Ton Schr?gt Durch Den Rauch" (from Continuum) >> Trigon - "You Do Fr?send" (from Herzberg 2004) >> Trigon - "Lederne Beistelldamen" (from Emergent) >> Trigon - "Wenn Wir Dich Rauchen Schreien Wir" (from Artrock-Festival Live >> 2003) >> >> Trev and Kev - "Watching The Grass Grow" (from Live at the Cosmic Puffin) >> Instant Drone Factory - "Out Of The Chaos" (from Ho Avuto Paura Del Mare) >> Little Fyodor - "The God Gripe Song" (from Peace is Boring) >> Hidria Spacefolk - "Astroban" (from Balansia) >> Tribe of Cro - "And the Ants Marched (On)" (from Hydroculture) >> >> http://Aural-Innovations.com >> >> > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 25 09:30:29 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:30:29 +0100 Subject: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: Christian Carlsson C's message of Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:58:16 +0200 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From grison at TELIA.COM Fri Sep 25 09:59:39 2009 From: grison at TELIA.COM (Mats Johansson) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:59:39 +0200 Subject: SV: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: <200909251330.n8PDUTYf025594@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Try this link, click on the UK flag for international registration. http://www.tradera.com/regtrader/register1.aspx Good luck -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]F?r M Holmes Skickat: den 25 september 2009 15:30 Till: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET ?mne: Re: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE Christian Carlsson C writes: > Does somebody know something about this? > I'd be interested, but can't get a login for the site because I don't have a Swedish ID number. Anyone here from Sweden? FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From grison at TELIA.COM Fri Sep 25 09:59:39 2009 From: grison at TELIA.COM (Mats Johansson) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:59:39 +0200 Subject: SV: SV: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: <4ABCAC60.40902@comcast.net> Message-ID: Well, if it was the only remaining item for my HW collection to be completed, then 1500 SEK ($220 or ? 120 approx) wouldn't be too much, but I can buy loads of other HW records for that money. It sure is pretty, but I'll go for a regular japan LP that probably sounds better than this one. Cheers M -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]F?r Rich W Skickat: den 25 september 2009 13:41 Till: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET ?mne: Re: SV: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE Lol, thats a nice way way of saying it's too freaking expensive, although if it is the real deal and there are only 100 copies, then then perhaps thats not too much money ;-) Very Pretty anyway. Rich W. Mats Johansson wrote: > It seems like a late 70?s release, by looking at the pictures on the insert. > The price is not at par with my desire to own this item. > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fr?n: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]F?r mike coleman > Skickat: den 25 september 2009 08:45 > Till: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > ?mne: Re: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE > > > KO > I ma gnikaerb ecnelis tuoba siht meti, hcihw I was tuoba a keew oga eud ot > ym llew-detcennoc erutan (hsulb), tub ym noitamrofni si yzzuf dna > detimil....... > Eht ruomur si tsuj 001 seipoc edam.... > > This posting was in my spam folder which has me baffled as I do not put > forum members into spam > (puts imaginary but certainly un-named hand on chin) > Mike > > > On 9/24/09, Christian Carlsson C wrote: > >> Does somebody know something about this? >> < >> >> > http://www.tradera.com/HAWKWIND-Warrior--Japan-Picture-disc-LP-ULTRA-RARE-au > ktion_98705748 > >> Regards, Christian >> _________________________________________ >> >> Save a tree...please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On Behalf Of Jerry Kranitz >> Sent: den 20 september 2009 20:40 >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show >> >> http://Aural-Innovations.com >> >> SEPTEMBER 20, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOW: AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO >> >> I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show >> #224). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day >> in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio >> shows page at: >> http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html >> >> Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #224) >> >> Secret Saucer - "Light Years Away" (from Tri-Angle Waves) >> Litmus - "In The Burning Light" (from Aurora) >> Fell - "Dust On Countertops" (from Incoherent Lullabies) >> Man in Space - "Bright Purple Spacecraft" (from How To Potty Train A >> Supernova) >> Nifty Eagu + The Glo-Pilots - "Coco Left The Door Open" (from Ezoteric) >> >> VAS DEFERENS ORGANIZATION SET >> >> Shits and Giggles - "More Valium On The Mellotron" (from Trick or Treat) >> Vas Deferens Organization - "Purple Aerosol" (from Saturation) >> Vas Deferens Organization - "Entrees" (from Drug Bubbles) >> Vas Deferens Organization - "Perpetual Motion Motors for Parasol Wielding >> Parisians" (from The Idiot Parade) >> >> SubArachnoid Space - "Akathesia" (from Eight Bells) >> Gestalt-Risla - "Yesterday's Future" (unreleased) >> Dave Fuglewicz - "Empty (and waiting)" (from Tapergerm download) >> Scarlet Utopia - "Omega Space Walk" (from Adventures Under Black Light) >> >> TRIGON 20TH ANNIVERSARY SET >> >> Trigon - "In Trance" (from Live 2007 DVD) >> Trigon - "Ein Ton Schr?gt Durch Den Rauch" (from Continuum) >> Trigon - "You Do Fr?send" (from Herzberg 2004) >> Trigon - "Lederne Beistelldamen" (from Emergent) >> Trigon - "Wenn Wir Dich Rauchen Schreien Wir" (from Artrock-Festival Live >> 2003) >> >> Trev and Kev - "Watching The Grass Grow" (from Live at the Cosmic Puffin) >> Instant Drone Factory - "Out Of The Chaos" (from Ho Avuto Paura Del Mare) >> Little Fyodor - "The God Gripe Song" (from Peace is Boring) >> Hidria Spacefolk - "Astroban" (from Balansia) >> Tribe of Cro - "And the Ants Marched (On)" (from Hydroculture) >> >> http://Aural-Innovations.com >> >> > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Sep 25 11:46:14 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:46:14 -0700 Subject: Motorhead in Kansas City review Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/yemtdrm From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Sep 25 14:19:40 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:19:40 +0100 Subject: Excellent review in Mojo magazine for Hawkwind's Show at The Green Man Festival. Message-ID: This Months Mojo has done a nice review of the green man festival, and ends the piece with But all the bongos in the world can't top Hawkwind. From the phased synths and locked groove of Assault & Battery to Hassan I Sabbah's arabesque throb, via interstellar cement mixer You'd better believe it, Space rocks premier institution thrill both the veteran freaks and weekend warriors. It might not be folk music per se, but what could be more traditional in a british festival context than having your brain melted by silver machine, as fireworks explode into the endless summer night. NICE !!!! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 25 15:32:31 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:32:31 -0500 Subject: SV: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > It sure is pretty, but I'll go for a regular japan LP that probably sounds > better than this one. > > Cheers > > Me too. and I did, thank god I actually pulled the japanese sellers "heart > strings" to such extent that he went and bought me a replacement "astounding > sounds" for the one that got ruined because he didn't listen to my repeated > PLEADING for a big box.... I almost had to visit a hospital........ I donlt know this but I wonder if that Warrior is 180 gram, I know the Alien Autopsy boot was, I think they might be pressing well these days but I have NO idea about this one......in the past I always considered pic discs to be somewhat second-rate at playing, compared to black, etc///// From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Fri Sep 25 18:04:07 2009 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:04:07 -0500 Subject: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE Message-ID: I know I want one! > Does somebody know something about this? > http://www.tradera.com/HAWKWIND-Warrior--Japan-Picture-disc-LP-ULTRA-RAR=E-auktion_98705748 > > Regards, Christian -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750 See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 25 21:15:43 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:15:43 -0500 Subject: HAWKWIND - Warrior.. / Japan Picture disc LP ULTRA RARE In-Reply-To: <20090925220407.84C74BE407E@ws1-9.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On 9/25/09, Visionary Head wrote: > > I know I want one! and of course I do too, I simply find these "instant expensive" items to be spiritually wrong, as well as infuriating- And as much as the sleeve isn't the prettiest, since they are showing the Japanese collection in all it's Obi-stripped glory, I say DEMAND AN OBI From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 26 11:18:21 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:18:21 -0400 Subject: Buck Message-ID: You have to sit through a short commercial to get to the vid, but it's worth it. ;-) http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200810233637915 Steve From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Sat Sep 26 12:23:34 2009 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:23:34 -0400 Subject: Buck In-Reply-To: <919e368d0909260818j52691296tb5668838ce15fff3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What's amazing is that anyone recognized him. ;) On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:18:21 -0400, Steve Swann wrote: > You have to sit through a short commercial to get to the vid, but it's > worth it. ;-) > > http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200810233637915 > > Steve -- Until Further Notice, I am Unique From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 27 06:21:02 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:21:02 -0500 Subject: HW Fwd: the little red penis Message-ID: I thought this was worth sharing...... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: mike coleman Date: Sep 27, 2009 2:21 AM Subject: the little red penis To:(name removed) did you ever notice it on XISOS? From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 27 10:13:17 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:13:17 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Laura, Just finished reading Conversations With Noone, very good. I hate writing. Your personality shows through in your writing. I know you like junk food, and are very spiritual. Did you see when Wavy Gravy was running Nobody for president? Nobody should have that much power, nobody works for me, and so on. He had a routine down, and some people treated him like he was a fool, but he was making a valid political statement. That's another thing I see you're, is skeptical at best of the government. Please let me know more about your ideas about tofu? I like the stuff, but don't cook with it since it never tastes good when I cook it. I don't want to buy into something that isn't really as healthy as I think. I respect your opinions. Porcupine Tree Peace e, tonight, yes!!! Mary and Kosh -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Crimson One Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall I would never ever start a fight. Fighting is evil. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, mike coleman wrote: > Now if you did that it was only to LEARN > NOT to start a fight > > > > On 9/3/09, Crimson One wrote: > > > > By all means someone reply! Or...wait, I already did. > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM, mike coleman > > > >wrote: > > > > > On 9/3/09, Steve Swann wrote: > > > > > > > Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you > > > > and > > > > > > > > > If it is I wonder if he knows what it stands for before revealing > > > what > I > > > graciously refrained from changing it to- PXR5pieces > > > All in good spirit this end > > > back to the rest of your report > > > (remember he won't read this if you don't reply) > > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 27 10:57:32 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:57:32 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: <3D5BE7B0EEBD402A91EC0093C857065B@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Dear Mary, I'm pretty sure Laura would prefer you mailed her privately but luckily I don't see anything too incriminating here It's really easy to remember, it's crimsonmirrors at gmail.com. On 9/27/09, mary wrote: > > Hi Laura, > Just finished reading Conversations With Noone, very good. I hate writing. > Your personality shows through in your writing. I know you like junk food, > and are very spiritual. > Did you see when Wavy Gravy was running Nobody for president? Nobody > should > have that much power, nobody works for me, and so on. He had a routine > down, and some people treated him like he was a fool, but he was making a > valid political statement. That's another thing I see you're, is skeptical > at best of the government. > Please let me know more about your ideas about tofu? I like the stuff, but > don't cook with it since it never tastes good when I cook it. I don't want > to buy into something that isn't really as healthy as I think. I respect > your opinions. > Porcupine Tree > Peace > e, tonight, yes!!! > > Mary and Kosh > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Crimson One > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:57 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall > > > I would never ever start a fight. Fighting is evil. > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, mike coleman >wrote: > > > Now if you did that it was only to LEARN > > NOT to start a fight > > > > > > > > On 9/3/09, Crimson One wrote: > > > > > > By all means someone reply! Or...wait, I already did. > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM, mike coleman > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > On 9/3/09, Steve Swann wrote: > > > > > > > > > Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is I wonder if he knows what it stands for before revealing > > > > what > > I > > > > graciously refrained from changing it to- PXR5pieces > > > > All in good spirit this end > > > > back to the rest of your report > > > > (remember he won't read this if you don't reply) > > > > > > > > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 27 11:27:41 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:27:41 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Laura, My sincere apology, Hi Laura, I made the mistake of thinking I was sending to your private email, I wouldn't tease you about a conjecture with the junk food in a group. What struck me was you mention a chain that I guess many of you are familiar with almost as if it were Burger King, (sorry, I can't remember your name. I really hope I didn't offend you, in any way. I was really primarily writing to let you know how much I enjoy your writing. The way you get inside the minds of the characters you write is humorous, and insightful. Have you considered getting it published, in a magazine., like Asimov's? I don't remember the technical stuff I knew so well about writing, nor do I care to, but I love stories, and you've got 1 big 1, with lots of little stories in it. Seriously, I'm impressed. I love stories! I'll write to you soon. Peace, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Crimson One Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind 40 Porchester Hall I would never ever start a fight. Fighting is evil. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, mike coleman wrote: > Now if you did that it was only to LEARN > NOT to start a fight > > > > On 9/3/09, Crimson One wrote: > > > > By all means someone reply! Or...wait, I already did. > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM, mike coleman > > > >wrote: > > > > > On 9/3/09, Steve Swann wrote: > > > > > > > Steve PXR5 - Is that your real last name? :) Glad to meet you > > > > and > > > > > > > > > If it is I wonder if he knows what it stands for before revealing > > > what > I > > > graciously refrained from changing it to- PXR5pieces > > > All in good spirit this end > > > back to the rest of your report > > > (remember he won't read this if you don't reply) > > > > > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Sep 27 16:00:51 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:00:51 +0100 Subject: TREV and kev Pandemic of Noize dispatches In-Reply-To: <17d80c610909270321m4586fd9amde29a772969dc38e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yup, to a near sell-out audience and taking the main stage at 11pm, before the Fun Loving Criminals, (the No.1 chart topping,"headliners"), Trev and kev opened with their LSD influenced "Oh I do like to be beside the seaside", from their Live at the Cosmic Puffin album, taunting the "E" based audience that it was about time they started using mens drugs instead of kiddy stuff. Then, being in the mood to take no prisoners, the legend toppling acoustic duo unleashed "Raj Neesh" into the astonished and confused crowd. At this stage, it is reliably reported that the Mafia-backed Fun Loving Criminals were seen to burst into tears and start whimpering for their mummies. Following this with their Madonna/Hawkind medley, it was clear that the opposition had arrived at their "El Alamein". After a rapturously received set Judge Trev, legs astride, purveyed the field of slaughter before him as the ullulations of the Blessed Ones echoed across the field of combat, and with a derisive sneer on his triumphant lips, he offered the surviving crusties and fashionable, a la mode club-goers a COUNTRY AND WESTERN song, "The Ballad of Fred Goodwin" (Live at the Cosmic Puffin), as the Crowzones picked at the twitching corpses which littered the Field of Theatre Coronet. The event was a near carbon copy of their recent engagement at Moonfest where Justin Hawkins chart-topping band "Hotlegs" suffered a similar fate. TREV and kev are available for functions, weddings, barmitzfas and any bona fide chart topping performers who wish to try their luck in the time-honoured sport of mortal combat. Buy Live at the Cosmic Puffin here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html Trev and Kev Myspace http://www.myspace.com/trevandkev > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Sep 27 18:17:57 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:17:57 -0500 Subject: TREV and kev Pandemic of Noize dispatches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 27 Sep 2009, at 15:00 , trev wrote: > Following this with their Madonna/Hawkind medley Actually, I've spent about the last 10 years dreaming about doing a roaring space-rock version of "Ray of Light". Yeah, I heard the Stooge's version, but I think I could do it better as space-rock! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 28 06:10:26 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:10:26 +0100 Subject: FAO: Tim Fulcher Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Sep 28 10:20:35 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:20:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set Message-ID: Ohhh this arrived today.... dived straight into the Live at lewisham odeon 1980.. My God,? Huw's playing is phenomenal....Don't think I have heard a better recording of Huw EVER !!!!!!!!!! Really takes me back to those days when Huw was always in his dennis the menace red & black top, skinny jeans & big daps ( trainers).. ? Brilliant..... From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Mon Sep 28 10:32:11 2009 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:32:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set In-Reply-To: <8CC0E5DFAD59B3B-4980-3699@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Got to wait a week for ours, it just shipped :-( Can't wait Rich iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > Ohhh this arrived today.... > > dived straight into the Live at lewisham odeon 1980.. > > My God,? Huw's playing is phenomenal....Don't think I have heard a better recording of Huw EVER !!!!!!!!!! > > Really takes me back to those days when Huw was always in his dennis the menace red & black top, skinny jeans & big daps ( trainers).. > ? > Brilliant..... > > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Sep 28 10:37:24 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:37:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set In-Reply-To: <4AC0C8EB.2040907@comcast.net> Message-ID: Rich, good to see you at Porchester.... Hope you get yer CD's soon,? I won't mention then that there's an early version of Angels of death that is brilliant to hear as the band changed it so dramatically once Ginger was replaced,? ahahahaha iain -----Original Message----- From: Rich W To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:32 Subject: Re: HW: Levitation 3CD set Got to wait a week for ours, it just shipped :-( Can't wait? ? Rich? ? iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote:? > Ohhh this arrived today....? >? > dived straight into the Live at lewisham odeon 1980..? >? > My God,? Huw's playing is phenomenal....Don't think I have heard a better recording of Huw EVER !!!!!!!!!!? >? > Really takes me back to those days when Huw was always in his dennis the menace red & black top, skinny jeans & big daps ( trainers)..? > ?? > Brilliant.....? >? > From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 28 10:39:20 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:39:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set In-Reply-To: <8CC0E5DFAD59B3B-4980-3699@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Not received mine yet. What's the packaging like?? Plastic box or digi? -----Original Message----- From: iainferguson at AOL.COM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:20 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set Ohhh this arrived today.... dived straight into the Live at lewisham odeon 1980.. My God,? Huw's playing is phenomenal....Don't think I have heard a better recording of Huw EVER !!!!!!!!!! Really takes me back to those days when Huw was always in his dennis the menace red & black top, skinny jeans & big daps ( trainers).. ? Brilliant..... From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Sep 28 10:50:07 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:50:07 -0400 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set In-Reply-To: <8CC0E609955B290-16C0-1D47C@webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, Its rather lovely...... 3 CD's, with a few postcards a 30 odd page booklet that has the 1980 program in it and a 7 page essay from our very own Brian Tawn ( not read yet as listening to album whilst working),? Each CD is in its own printed cardboard sleeve, and the whole lot is in a hard cardboard case, the type that reel to reel tapes used to be packed in (for those old enough to remember them).. iain -----Original Message----- From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:39 Subject: Re: HW: Levitation 3CD set Not received mine yet. What's the packaging like?? Plastic box or digi? -----Original Message----- From: iainferguson at AOL.COM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:20 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set Ohhh this arrived today.... dived straight into the Live at lewisham odeon 1980.. My God,? Huw's playing is phenomenal....Don't think I have heard a better recording of Huw EVER !!!!!!!!!! Really takes me back to those days when Huw was always in his dennis the menace red & black top, skinny jeans & big daps ( trainers).. ? Brilliant..... Hi Steve, From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 28 10:57:09 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:57:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set In-Reply-To: <8CC0E621B2DA13B-4980-3D94@webmail-d003.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Oh wow. ?This sounds superb! I was hoping it wouldn't be in one of those bulky plastic CD cases. I can't wait for this to arrive. Hopefully tomorrow. I am on leave now so it will be on as soon as I receive it. Thanks for the info Iain. Steve -----Original Message----- From: iainferguson at AOL.COM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:50 Subject: Re: HW: Levitation 3CD set Hi Steve, Its rather lovely...... 3 CD's, with a few postcards a 30 odd page booklet that has the 1980 program in it and a 7 page essay from our very own Brian Tawn ( not read yet as listening to album whilst working),? Each CD is in its own printed cardboard sleeve, and the whole lot is in a hard cardboard case, the type that reel to reel tapes used to be packed in (for those old enough to remember them).. iain -----Original Message----- From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:39 Subject: Re: HW: Levitation 3CD set Not received mine yet. What's the packaging like?? Plastic box or digi? -----Original Message----- From: iainferguson at AOL.COM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:20 Subject: HW: Levitation 3CD set Ohhh this arrived today.... dived straight into the Live at lewisham odeon 1980.. My God,? Huw's playing is phenomenal....Don't think I have heard a better recording of Huw EVER !!!!!!!!!! Really takes me back to those days when Huw was always in his dennis the menace red & black top, skinny jeans & big daps ( trainers).. ? Brilliant..... Hi Steve, From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 28 11:00:14 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:00:14 -0500 Subject: HW vinyl newsflash Message-ID: just in from a source here in Dallas: Hawkwind "Shot Down In The Night- Live 1979" coming in November on the Vinyl Lovers label, which I hear is a good label From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Mon Sep 28 17:49:09 2009 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:49:09 -0500 Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: HW: Levitation 3CD set Message-ID: Spam detection software, running on the system "www.ispnetinc.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: The Atomhenge site lists the Lewisham live tracks on Levitation, but the Starfarer site - http://www.starfarer.net/gigs1980.html listing doesn't match. It lists several more (e.g. Brainstorm, Silver Machine, Master) [...] Content analysis details: (5.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.7 SARE_FREE_WEBM_Dora Sender used free email account - may be spammer 2.5 DNS_FROM_RFC_DSN RBL: Envelope sender in dsn.rfc-ignorant.org 1.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is a abuseable web server [98.119.103.122 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Visionary Head" Subject: Re: HW: Levitation 3CD set Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:49:09 -0500 Size: 2507 URL: From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 29 10:51:18 2009 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:51:18 +0000 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Message-ID: Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 29 11:11:02 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:11:02 -0700 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <28587.80864.qm@web26908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 29 11:23:27 2009 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:23:27 +0000 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <743062.9041.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 29 11:33:06 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:33:06 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <254870.99305.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm glad you did. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:23 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Sep 29 11:32:50 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:32:50 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <254870.99305.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 29 11:34:55 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:34:55 -0700 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <254870.99305.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ian, I assumed you wrote it. My mistake. Thanks for passing it on though. Listening to samples now. ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:23:27 AM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 29 11:38:39 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:38:39 +0000 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <8CC0F313CF94761-5A4-1BC37@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: If Hawkwind had a front man for most of that time, it probably was Alan. --- On Tue, 29/9/09, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: From: iainferguson at AOL.COM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 4:32 PM Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 29 11:41:38 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:41:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <8CC0F313CF94761-5A4-1BC37@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is. Can anybody help? Mary P.S. Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 29 11:42:20 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:42:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <334682.89500.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm definitely having trouble finding my way around the site, samples, drool. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:35 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Ian, I assumed you wrote it. My mistake. Thanks for passing it on though. Listening to samples now. ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:23:27 AM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 29 11:44:31 2009 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:44:31 +0000 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <8CC0F313CF94761-5A4-1BC37@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Quite right Iain, and sorry Gary, I shouldn't have been abrupt and rude about your point. A really great job has been done on Alan's site, and Eclectic Devils is a FANTASTIC album (just get it for 'Encounter' alone! and then get it for the rest as well!). But look, I've said this once, on the Hawkwind forum, and I'll mention it here again. I'm NOT in anybody's camp. A few Hawks (past-members) have from time to time asked me for a bit of help simply because I've now got one or two contacts and can write a reasonable press sheet and I've always been happy to do what modest little bits of help I can for people (always unpaid). It's never to do with what side of any divide they are on, it's only to do with they come and kindly ask and always seem to appreciate the little bits I can do (and they are very little bits, let's be honest). If anybody?who is?a current member asked for some help, I'd do exactly the same, for exactly the same reward and I'd do it quite happily. Unfortunately, that's unlikely to happen but that's just one of those things. But I'm not doing something for one person because they are on one side of things and not doing stuff for others because they are on the other side. I don't work like that, I try to be balanced and objective always... Ian ________________________________ From: "iainferguson at AOL.COM" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:32:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 29 11:47:03 2009 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:47:03 +0000 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <2DE15CADD1A7400097C5C337FEF72CC1@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi Mary, There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as well.. Ian ________________________________ From: mary To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is.? Can anybody help? Mary P.S.? Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 29 11:53:43 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:53:43 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <976490.52597.qm@web26901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ian, I was about to ask you off list for suggestions. If I can't get in the ways you told me, is there a link you can send? If not, please let Alan know his site has to be more accessible for me, and other blind users. Thanks, and I'll let you know how it works, in a few seconds. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi Mary, There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as well.. Ian ________________________________ From: mary To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is.? Can anybody help? Mary P.S.? Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 29 11:55:37 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:55:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <976490.52597.qm@web26901.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is all I get. Mary C# VB.Net ASP.Net Javascript AJAX MapBasic MapXtreme RoutingJServer MySQL Oracle Currently working on the National FiReControl Project developing mainly web apps and web and Windows services, particularly in the area of road routing and GIS. Imass Ltd Northumbria House Regent Centre Gosforth Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi Mary, There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as well.. Ian ________________________________ From: mary To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is.? Can anybody help? Mary P.S.? Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 29 12:00:12 2009 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:00:12 +0000 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <24CBCCD7726149A380B4137A25A524FB@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: Let me know how you get on, and we'll work something else out if you can't access what you need... ________________________________ From: mary To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:53:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Thanks Ian, I was about to ask you off list for suggestions.? If I can't get in the ways you told me, is there a link you can send?? If not, please let Alan know his site has to be more accessible for me, and other blind users. Thanks, and I'll let you know how it works, in a few seconds. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi Mary, There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as well.. Ian ________________________________ From: mary To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is.? Can anybody help? Mary P.S.? Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 29 12:01:08 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:01:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <5D8701E93A0F4EF8919C74675994DF42@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: just give me your card info and I'll spend your money helping you support "your people".....(**) On 9/29/09, mary wrote: > > This is all I get. > > Mary > > > > C# > VB.Net > ASP.Net > Javascript > AJAX > MapBasic > MapXtreme > RoutingJServer > MySQL > Oracle > > Currently working on the National FiReControl Project developing mainly web > apps and web and Windows services, particularly in the area of road routing > and GIS. > > Imass Ltd > Northumbria House > Regent Centre > Gosforth > Newcastle upon Tyne > NE3 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top > Hi Mary, > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of links - > not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the Alan Davey > banner at the top of the home page takes you there as well.. > > Ian > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mary > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to > contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is. Can anybody help? > > Mary > > P.S. Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been > rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, > none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it > all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be > honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , > Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for > 22 > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and > all > > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through > the > new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link > at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from > Oz > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing > the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic > now!!). > > Ian > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 29 13:05:51 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:05:51 -0700 Subject: Hoaxwind? Message-ID: http://www.myspace.com/hoaxwind Anyone know of this band? Saw on Alan Davey's site that they play some shows with Gunslinger. Gary From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 29 19:43:51 2009 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:43:51 +0800 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <420069.74963.qm@web26902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for that. I was wondering where ECLECTIC DEVILS had got to! Great to hear creative new music from Alan. I seem to have made an order without any problems. 2009/9/30 Ian Abrahams > Let me know how you get on, and we'll work something else out if you can't > access what you need... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mary > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:53:43 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Thanks Ian, I was about to ask you off list for suggestions. If I can't > get > in the ways you told me, is there a link you can send? If not, please let > Alan know his site has to be more accessible for me, and other blind users. > Thanks, and I'll let you know how it works, in a few seconds. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top > Hi Mary, > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of links - > not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the Alan Davey > banner at the top of the home page takes you there as well.. > > Ian > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mary > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to > contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is. Can anybody help? > > Mary > > P.S. Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been > rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, > none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it > all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be > honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , > Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for > 22 > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and > all > > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through > the > new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link > at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from > Oz > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing > the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic > now!!). > > Ian > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Sep 29 20:12:31 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:12:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <39dabad60909291643i28e0b46dyf651f84b149876fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My problems are unique, since I can't use anything graphic being blind. I think I can only access the front page with my reader, and everything layered below that I can't find. I hope in time the site will be more blind friendly. If there are direct links to music, or ordering that would be much easier. Mary This is all I get. When I try to use the "Links list," that does me no good, I only have 2 choices, 1 being to make contact, and I don't even know what the other link is for. It's obviously a problem with my reader. C# VB.Net ASP.Net Javascript AJAX MapBasic MapXtreme RoutingJServer MySQL Oracle Currently working on the National FiReControl Project developing mainly web apps and web and Windows services, particularly in the area of road routing and GIS. Imass Ltd Northumbria House Regent Centre Gosforth Newcastle upon Tyne NE3 -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi Mary, There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as well.. Ian ________________________________ From: Mary To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is.? Can anybody help? Mary P.S.? Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Hi folks, Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. regards iain -----Original Message----- From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! ________________________________ From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all that but... ________________________________ From: Ian Abrahams To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Hello All, Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic Devils, there. Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). Ian -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:44 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Thanks for that. I was wondering where ECLECTIC DEVILS had got to! Great to hear creative new music from Alan. I seem to have made an order without any problems. 2009/9/30 Ian Abrahams > Let me know how you get on, and we'll work something else out if you > can't access what you need... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mary > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:53:43 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Thanks Ian, I was about to ask you off list for suggestions. If I > can't get in the ways you told me, is there a link you can send? If > not, please let Alan know his site has to be more accessible for me, > and other blind users. Thanks, and I'll let you know how it works, in > a few seconds. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi Mary, > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of > links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the > Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as > well.. > > Ian > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mary > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, > 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is. Can > anybody help? > > Mary > > P.S. Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's > been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the > two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just > fans doing it all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and > to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had > when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind > for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get > paid and all > > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan > Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders > through the new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link > at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review > from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be > found singing the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic > now!!). > > Ian > > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 29 22:07:02 2009 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:07:02 +0800 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <24173F55578D4D1AACDA0E62D835FB4F@feeleyq0nl12xq> Message-ID: I didn't realise that.:) 2009/9/30 mary > My problems are unique, since I can't use anything graphic being blind. I > think I can only access the front page with my reader, and everything > layered below that I can't find. I hope in time the site will be more > blind friendly. If there are direct links to music, or ordering that would > be much easier. > > Mary > This is all I get. When I try to use the "Links list," that does me no > good, > I only have 2 choices, 1 being to make contact, and I don't even know what > the other link is for. It's obviously a problem with my reader. > > > C# > VB.Net > ASP.Net > Javascript > AJAX > MapBasic > MapXtreme > RoutingJServer > MySQL > Oracle > > Currently working on the National FiReControl Project developing mainly web > apps and web and Windows services, particularly in the area of road routing > and GIS. > > Imass Ltd > Northumbria House > Regent Centre > Gosforth > Newcastle upon Tyne > NE3 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top > Hi Mary, > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of links - > not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the Alan Davey > banner at the top of the home page takes you there as well.. > > Ian > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mary > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, 1 to > contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is. Can anybody help? > > Mary > > P.S. Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been > rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, > none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it > all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be > honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , > Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for > 22 > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and > all > > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through > the > new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link > at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from > Oz > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing > the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic > now!!). > > Ian > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Jonathan Smith > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:44 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > Thanks for that. I was wondering where ECLECTIC DEVILS had got to! Great to > hear creative new music from Alan. I seem to have made an order without any > problems. > > 2009/9/30 Ian Abrahams > > > Let me know how you get on, and we'll work something else out if you > > can't access what you need... > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mary > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:53:43 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Thanks Ian, I was about to ask you off list for suggestions. If I > > can't get in the ways you told me, is there a link you can send? If > > not, please let Alan know his site has to be more accessible for me, > > and other blind users. Thanks, and I'll let you know how it works, in > > a few seconds. > > > > Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi Mary, > > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of > > links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the > > Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as > > well.. > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mary > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, > > 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is. Can > > anybody help? > > > > Mary > > > > P.S. Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's > > been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the > > two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just > > fans doing it all. > > > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and > > to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had > > when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > > > regards > > iain > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gary shindler > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind > > for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get > > paid and all > > > > that but... > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Hello All, > > > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan > > Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders > > through the new > > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register > link > > at > > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, > Eclectic > > Devils, there. > > > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review > > from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be > > found singing the > > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic > > now!!). > > > > Ian > > > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 30 07:16:52 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:16:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <39dabad60909291907g26521417yb6cc300130fad99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, The blindness, it is hard to tell on line. A lot of people who talk to me on the phone will often forget I can't see, and will start to ask me a visual question. So many people in this modern day and age are so up tight they may have questions about being blind, but they're to scared to ask, or someone will ask if I watched, (embarrassed um, listened to a TV program. I've been blind all my life, and I have no comprehension of light, shadows, color, or the sky, but that's all right, at least I never had them and lost all that. It would be interesting, for a day, probably quite overwhelming, if the studies I've read are true about folks who have never seen getting vision for the first time. Well, now that I've managed to twist this thread way off topic, we can go back to our topic which may still be in progress. I'm still reading last night's mail. Peace, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jonathan Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:07 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website I didn't realise that.:) 2009/9/30 mary > My problems are unique, since I can't use anything graphic being > blind. I think I can only access the front page with my reader, and > everything layered below that I can't find. I hope in time the site > will be more blind friendly. If there are direct links to music, or > ordering that would be much easier. > > Mary > This is all I get. When I try to use the "Links list," that does me no > good, I only have 2 choices, 1 being to make contact, and I don't even > know what the other link is for. It's obviously a problem with my > reader. > > > C# > VB.Net > ASP.Net > Javascript > AJAX > MapBasic > MapXtreme > RoutingJServer > MySQL > Oracle > > Currently working on the National FiReControl Project developing > mainly web apps and web and Windows services, particularly in the area > of road routing and GIS. > > Imass Ltd > Northumbria House > Regent Centre > Gosforth > Newcastle upon Tyne > NE3 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi Mary, > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of > links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the > Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as > well.. > > Ian > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mary > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 links, > 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is. Can > anybody help? > > Mary > > P.S. Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's > been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the > two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just > fans doing it all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and > to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had > when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind > for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get > paid and all > > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan > Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders > through the new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link > at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review > from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be > found singing the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic > now!!). > > Ian > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Jonathan Smith > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:44 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > Thanks for that. I was wondering where ECLECTIC DEVILS had got to! > Great to hear creative new music from Alan. I seem to have made an > order without any problems. > > 2009/9/30 Ian Abrahams > > > Let me know how you get on, and we'll work something else out if you > > can't access what you need... > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mary > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:53:43 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Thanks Ian, I was about to ask you off list for suggestions. If I > > can't get in the ways you told me, is there a link you can send? If > > not, please let Alan know his site has to be more accessible for me, > > and other blind users. Thanks, and I'll let you know how it works, > > in a few seconds. > > > > Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:47 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top Hi > > Mary, > > > > There's a web shop link, which is the second link in the top row of > > links - not sure how your software locates that - or clicking on the > > Alan Davey banner at the top of the home page takes you there as > > well.. > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: mary > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:41:38 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > I'm having trouble finding where to order on the site, I get 2 > > links, 1 to contact Alan, and I have no idea what that other one is. > > Can anybody help? > > > > Mary > > > > P.S. Thanks for tolerating my lack of computer skills. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of iainferguson at AOL.COM > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:33 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, > > it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between > > the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and > > it's just fans doing it all. > > > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and > > to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had > > when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > > > regards > > iain > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gary shindler > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for > > Hawkwind for 22 years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he > > didn't get paid and all > > > > that but... > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Hello All, > > > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan > > Davey: www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 > > orders through the new site, so worth getting along and registering > > there (find the register > link > > at > > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, > Eclectic > > Devils, there. > > > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including > > a three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star > > review from Oz Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can > > also be found singing the praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red > > Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). > > > > Ian > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 30 11:23:43 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:23:43 -0500 Subject: OFF for a momment HW: Alan Davey Website Message-ID: On 9/30/09, mary wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, > The blindness, it is hard to tell on line. A lot of people who talk to me > on the phone will often forget I can't see. Yes 2 decades later I have finally trained myself to defeat her "dishonest" use of the word "look". (period inserted for SS) So now, when she says "I looked to see if the cat puke was a hairball", it's much more entertaining. From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Wed Sep 30 11:51:01 2009 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:51:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Robots discuss Krankschaft In-Reply-To: <17d80c610909300823o30e6bbccgde852e211682ed9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We just commissioned some Robots to make a commercial for the Krankschaft album.. no expense spared: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090930063929139 It's actually a fantastic website, I might get addicted.. -S. From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 30 12:11:20 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:11:20 -0400 Subject: OFF for a momment HW: Alan Davey Website In-Reply-To: <17d80c610909300823o30e6bbccgde852e211682ed9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A new one for my resume. :) On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM, mike coleman wrote: > On 9/30/09, mary wrote: >> >> Hi Jonathan, >> The blindness, it is hard to tell on line. ?A lot of people who talk to me >> on the phone will often forget I can't see. > > > Yes 2 decades later I have finally trained myself to defeat her "dishonest" > use of the word "look". (period inserted for SS) > So now, when she says "I looked to see if the cat puke was a hairball", > ?it's much more entertaining. > From david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM Wed Sep 30 14:40:45 2009 From: david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM (Dave Hall) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho In-Reply-To: <783486.35255.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Just been onto the site. Give me a break - frontman, is he jesting? I remember seeing Alan at his first gig at Stonehenge and it was great. However a bit odd because that year the big rumour was that Lemmy was coming out on the tour - so what we got was a clone. The following year was great - Black Sword, the biz. After this Alan seemed to descend into becoming even more of a Lemmy clone to the extent of copying his vocal style and the positioning of the mic - this was a bit of a bore really. To be honest a lot of the guys who came to the gigs with me complained there was nothing new and the band had become there own 70s tribute act - they stopped coming because of that. The trio years were crap - endless recycles and programmed synths - no soul, no spirit. Julian Cope described it well, they had gone into stasis. The high points over the years - the return of Simon House, Ron Tree and the Alien tour [Alan bounced him out the band I believe] - now Ron was a frontman. All the duff stuff can't be laid at Alan but as he was a prime driver he has to take some of the blame. What I can't take is the slavish devotion and copying of Lemmy, talk about stifling creativity and originality - 25 years of copying someone else is a bit sad. The last two gigs have been amongst the best I ever seen - what's more all me old mates have returned! So all in all, Alan yes you helped keep the band alive but on the negative side for some periods you relegated them to being almost a tribute act. Creativity was stifled and the band did not grow. Proof of the pudding time for Dave Brock, is the next album going to be any good? I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. Dave PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent ---- Colin Allen wrote: > If Hawkwind had a front man for most of that time, it probably was Alan. > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > > > From: iainferguson at AOL.COM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 4:32 PM > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). > > Ian From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Wed Sep 30 15:16:47 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:16:47 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho In-Reply-To: <20090930194045.50NQF.401163.root@web05-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: Why do you call Mr Dibs an Incumbent? That is how you described Alan. After all you said about Alan, do you, if you delve deep back to the 70's, want Lemmy back or are you prepared to accept the band in their latest incarnation? ? I first saw Hawkwind on the Sonic Attack tour in 1981 at Preston's Guildhall. ?Since then I have never looked back. ? Now I live and breathe Hawkwind. Then band are moving onward, ever onward. ?The Porchester gigs were incredible. ?The band were superb, the sound was not. ?There was a SCREEEEEE. Yes, it was me that suggested cupping the hands behind the ears. It worked. See you at Wolves and Manchester. Steve. (PS - Chris - I'll not be going to Monster Magnet - I'll be in Manchester. So I'll see you for a pint or 2 at Wolves.) I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. Dave PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent -----Original Message----- From: Dave Hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho Hi Just been onto the site. Give me a break - frontman, is he jesting? I remember seeing Alan at his first gig at Stonehenge and it was great. However a bit odd because that year the big rumour was that Lemmy was coming out on the tour - so what we got was a clone. The following year was great - Black Sword, the biz. After this Alan seemed to descend into becoming even more of a Lemmy clone to the extent of copying his vocal style and the positioning of the mic - this was a bit of a bore really. To be honest a lot of the guys who came to the gigs with me complained there was nothing new and the band had become there own 70s tribute act - they stopped coming because of that. The trio years were crap - endless recycles and programmed synths - no soul, no spirit. Julian Cope described it well, they had gone into stasis. The high points over the years - the return of Simon House, Ron Tree and the Alien tour [Alan bounced him out the band I believe] - now Ron was a frontman. All the duff stuff can't be laid at Alan but as he was a prime driver he has to take some of the blame. What I can't take is the slavish devotion and copying of Lemmy, talk about stifling creativity and originality - 25 years of copying someone else is a bit sad. The last two gigs have been amongst the best I ever seen - what's more all me old mates have returned! So all in all, Alan yes you helped keep the band alive but on the negative side for some periods you relegated them to being almost a tribute act. Creativity was stifled and the band did not grow. Proof of the pudding time for Dave Brock, is the next album going to be any good? I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. Dave PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent ---- Colin Allen wrote: > If Hawkwind had a front man for most of that time, it probably was Alan. > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > > > From: iainferguson at AOL.COM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 4:32 PM > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). > > Ian From david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM Wed Sep 30 16:35:41 2009 From: david.hall6800 at NTLWORLD.COM (Dave Hall) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:35:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho In-Reply-To: <8CC1019AFFB7A8F-4D04-12EDD@webmail-d074.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Ahem First off Mr Dibs is the incumbent as he currently holds the office or post of bassist. There is nothing negative in the use of the word. Dibs has been great at the gigs - choice of T-shirts could be better, and I look forward to the next cd. Second, the band are currently on blasting form - want to see that transferred to the studio. Hopefully the move away from programmed synths will help. Dave ---- stevepxr5 at AOL.COM wrote: > Why do you call Mr Dibs an Incumbent? That is how you described Alan. > After all you said about Alan, do you, if you delve deep back to the 70's, want Lemmy back or are you prepared to accept the band in their latest incarnation? ? > > I first saw Hawkwind on the Sonic Attack tour in 1981 at Preston's Guildhall. ?Since then I have never looked back. ? > > Now I live and breathe Hawkwind. > > Then band are moving onward, ever onward. ?The Porchester gigs were incredible. ?The band were superb, the sound was not. ?There was a SCREEEEEE. > > Yes, it was me that suggested cupping the hands behind the ears. > > It worked. > > > > > See you at Wolves and Manchester. > > > > > Steve. > > > > > (PS - Chris - I'll not be going to Monster Magnet - I'll be in Manchester. So I'll see you for a pint or 2 at Wolves.) > > > > > > > > I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first > band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to > say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. > > Dave > PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Hall > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40 > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho > > > > > > > > > Hi > > Just been onto the site. Give me a break - frontman, is he jesting? I remember > seeing Alan at his first gig at Stonehenge and it was great. However a bit odd > because that year the big rumour was that Lemmy was coming out on the tour - so > what we got was a clone. The following year was great - Black Sword, the biz. > After this Alan seemed to descend into becoming even more of a Lemmy clone to > the extent of copying his vocal style and the positioning of the mic - this was > a bit of a bore really. To be honest a lot of the guys who came to the gigs with > me complained there was nothing new and the band had become there own 70s > tribute act - they stopped coming because of that. The trio years were crap - > endless recycles and programmed synths - no soul, no spirit. Julian Cope > described it well, they had gone into stasis. The high points over the years - > the return of Simon House, Ron Tree and the Alien tour [Alan bounced him out the > band I believe] - now Ron was a frontman. All the duff stuff can't be laid at > Alan but as he was a prime driver he has to take some of the blame. What I can't > take is the slavish devotion and copying of Lemmy, talk about stifling > creativity and originality - 25 years of copying someone else is a bit sad. The > last two gigs have been amongst the best I ever seen - what's more all me old > mates have returned! > So all in all, Alan yes you helped keep the band alive but on the negative side > for some periods you relegated them to being almost a tribute act. Creativity > was stifled and the band did not grow. Proof of the pudding time for Dave Brock, > is the next album going to be any good? > I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first > band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to > say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. > > Dave > PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent > ---- Colin Allen wrote: > > If Hawkwind had a front man for most of that time, it probably was Alan. > > > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > > > > > > From: iainferguson at AOL.COM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 4:32 PM > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been > rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none > of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. > > > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be > honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , > Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > > > regards > > iain > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gary shindler > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 > > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all > > that but... > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Hello All, > > > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: > > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the > new > > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at > > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > > Devils, there. > > > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz > > > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the > > > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). > > > > Ian > > > > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 30 17:18:44 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:18:44 -0500 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho In-Reply-To: <20090930213541.DXPR5.213364.root@web02-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: On 30 Sep 2009, at 15:35, Dave Hall wrote: > Second, the band are currently on blasting form - want to see that > transferred to the studio. Hopefully the move away from programmed > synths will help. Down with programmed synths! Still, I feel comfortable thinking of Alan in many ways as "Most Valuable Player" during much of the "trio(+)" period, a period that produced a lot of music I liked, despite the programmed synths. Alan came up with good fraction of the cool songs from that period, and brought a good vibe to the band's stage presence (at a time when Dave was [in]famous for "hiding behind the synths"). When he was out of the band, he came up with a pretty good solo album (_Captured Rotation_) that was IMO an improvement on the official HW output from that same time (_Distant Horizons_!), and Bedouin was a stonking live side project (even if its official recorded output never quite lived up to my expectations). Yes, Alan does manifest a somewhat alarming "Lemmy, Jr." vibe -- and though I have a Rick basically because Lemmy does, it's true that Alan has sometimes taken that sort of thing a bit farther than I might have recommended -- and he is doubtless imperfect numerous other ways at which we might only begin to guess (but, then, who isn't?) .... Still, I can think of people who have occupied the "bass chair" in Hawkwind with less satisfying effect. There seems to be little shortage of bad blood, to some degree or another, between former crew-members of spaceship Hawkwind and their once-upon-a-time captain, so we can perhaps be unsurprised to sense some in Alan .... And given his long and generally (AFAIK) honourable tenure in the band, we might forgive him for trading on the association now that he's flying fairly firmly solo. But, in any case, I think Alan has plenty he could do on his own or in new projects if he can find the ways and means to do so. At the end, I do not pay attention to Alan's current doings because he was a member of Hawkwind -- after all, the highways and byways of Britain are fairly littered with former Hawkwind members, many of whom I am content to let lie! ;) Rather I pay attention because I think he was a pretty valuable former member who still has some cool stuff to whip out of his hat (or from out his sleeve, or whatever!). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Wed Sep 30 17:53:52 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:53:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho In-Reply-To: <20090930213541.DXPR5.213364.root@web02-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: Ahem... Regarding the Incumbency... Mr Dibs is the Bassbringer, and every credit to him. What I have heard, and that's a lot, of his contributions to Hawkwind, he is bringing his own style to it. So although he is "Currently holding office" he is not "Lying or leaning on something else". I agree he has been great at the gigs. What's wrong with his choice of tee shirts (included the "R" in there).? He wears the same ones as me. Nowt wrong with that. Onward flies the Bird. Cheers, StevePXR5 Ahem First off Mr Dibs is the incumbent as he currently holds the office or post of bassist. There is nothing negative in the use of the word. Dibs has been great at the gigs - choice of T-shirts could be better, and I look forward to the next cd. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:35 Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho Ahem First off Mr Dibs is the incumbent as he currently holds the office or post of bassist. There is nothing negative in the use of the word. Dibs has been great at the gigs - choice of T-shirts could be better, and I look forward to the next cd. Second, the band are currently on blasting form - want to see that transferred to the studio. Hopefully the move away from programmed synths will help. Dave ---- stevepxr5 at AOL.COM wrote: > Why do you call Mr Dibs an Incumbent? That is how you described Alan. > After all you said about Alan, do you, if you delve deep back to the 70's, want Lemmy back or are you prepared to accept the band in their latest incarnation? ? > > I first saw Hawkwind on the Sonic Attack tour in 1981 at Preston's Guildhall. ?Since then I have never looked back. ? > > Now I live and breathe Hawkwind. > > Then band are moving onward, ever onward. ?The Porchester gigs were incredible. ?The band were superb, the sound was not. ?There was a SCREEEEEE. > > Yes, it was me that suggested cupping the hands behind the ears. > > It worked. > > > > > See you at Wolves and Manchester. > > > > > Steve. > > > > > (PS - Chris - I'll not be going to Monster Magnet - I'll be in Manchester. So I'll see you for a pint or 2 at Wolves.) > > > > > > > > I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first > band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to > say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. > > Dave > PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Hall > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40 > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho > > > > > > > > > Hi > > Just been onto the site. Give me a break - frontman, is he jesting? I remember > seeing Alan at his first gig at Stonehenge and it was great. However a bit odd > because that year the big rumour was that Lemmy was coming out on the tour - so > what we got was a clone. The following year was great - Black Sword, the biz. > After this Alan seemed to descend into becoming even more of a Lemmy clone to > the extent of copying his vocal style and the positioning of the mic - this was > a bit of a bore really. To be honest a lot of the guys who came to the gigs with > me complained there was nothing new and the band had become there own 70s > tribute act - they stopped coming because of that. The trio years were crap - > endless recycles and programmed synths - no soul, no spirit. Julian Cope > described it well, they had gone into stasis. The high points over the years - > the return of Simon House, Ron Tree and the Alien tour [Alan bounced him out the > band I believe] - now Ron was a frontman. All the duff stuff can't be laid at > Alan but as he was a prime driver he has to take some of the blame. What I can't > take is the slavish devotion and copying of Lemmy, talk about stifling > creativity and originality - 25 years of copying someone else is a bit sad. The > last two gigs have been amongst the best I ever seen - what's more all me old > mates have returned! > So all in all, Alan yes you helped keep the band alive but on the negative side > for some periods you relegated them to being almost a tribute act. Creativity > was stifled and the band did not grow. Proof of the pudding time for Dave Brock, > is the next album going to be any good? > I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first > band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to > say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. > > Dave > PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent > ---- Colin Allen wrote: > > If Hawkwind had a front man for most of that time, it probably was Alan. > > > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > > > > > > From: iainferguson at AOL.CO M > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 4:32 PM > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's been > rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none > of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. > > > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to be > honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , > Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > > > regards > > iain > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: gary shindler > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind for 22 > > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all > > that but... > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ian Abrahams > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > Hello All, > > > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan Davey: > > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the > new > > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at > > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > > Devils, there. > > > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, includin g a > > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz > > > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the > > > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). > > > > Ian > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 30 19:48:35 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:48:35 -0500 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho In-Reply-To: <8CC102FA276F8FA-3AC8-1542A@webmail-m043.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Oh good!! ? and the MyStevions just wasn't flyin'///// On 9/30/09, stevepxr5 at aol.com wrote: > > Ahem... > > > > Regarding the Incumbency... > > > > Mr Dibs is the Bassbringer, and every credit to him. > > What I have heard, and that's a lot, of his contributions to Hawkwind, he > is bringing his own style to it. > So although he is "Currently holding office" he is not "Lying or leaning on > something else". > > I agree he has been great at the gigs. > > What's wrong with his choice of tee shirts (included the "R" in there).? He > wears the same ones as me. > > > > Nowt wrong with that. > > > > Onward flies the Bird. > > > > Cheers, > > StevePXR5 > > > Ahem > First off Mr Dibs is the incumbent as he currently holds the office or post > of > bassist. There is nothing negative in the use of the word. Dibs has been > great > at the gigs - choice of T-shirts could be better, and I look forward to the > next > cd. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Hall > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:35 > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho > > > > Ahem > First off Mr Dibs is the incumbent as he currently holds the office or post > of > bassist. There is nothing negative in the use of the word. Dibs has been > great > at the gigs - choice of T-shirts could be better, and I look forward to the > next > cd. > > Second, the band are currently on blasting form - want to see that > transferred > to the studio. Hopefully the move away from programmed synths will help. > > Dave > ---- stevepxr5 at AOL.COM wrote: > > Why do you call Mr Dibs an Incumbent? That is how you described Alan. > > After all you said about Alan, do you, if you delve deep back to the > 70's, > want Lemmy back or are you prepared to accept the band in their latest > incarnation? ? > > > > I first saw Hawkwind on the Sonic Attack tour in 1981 at Preston's > Guildhall. > ?Since then I have never looked back. ? > > > > Now I live and breathe Hawkwind. > > > > Then band are moving onward, ever onward. ?The Porchester gigs were > incredible. ?The band were superb, the sound was not. ?There was a > SCREEEEEE. > > > > Yes, it was me that suggested cupping the hands behind the ears. > > > > It worked. > > > > > > > > > > See you at Wolves and Manchester. > > > > > > > > > > Steve. > > > > > > > > > > (PS - Chris - I'll not be going to Monster Magnet - I'll be in > Manchester. So > I'll see you for a pint or 2 at Wolves.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the > first > > band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I > have > to > > say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. > > > > Dave > > PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Hall > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40 > > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > Just been onto the site. Give me a break - frontman, is he jesting? I > remember > > > seeing Alan at his first gig at Stonehenge and it was great. However a > bit odd > > > because that year the big rumour was that > Lemmy was coming out on the tour - > so > > what we got was a clone. The following year was great - Black Sword, the > biz. > > After this Alan seemed to descend into becoming even more of a Lemmy > clone to > > the extent of copying his vocal style and the positioning of the mic - > this > was > > a bit of a bore really. To be honest a lot of the guys who came to the > gigs > with > > me complained there was nothing new and the band had become there own 70s > > tribute act - they stopped coming because of that. The trio years were > crap - > > endless recycles and programmed synths - no soul, no spirit. Julian Cope > > described it well, they had gone into stasis. The high points over the > years - > > > the return of Simon House, Ron Tree and the Alien tour [Alan bounced him > out > the > > band I believe] - now Ron was a frontman. All the duff stuff can't be > laid at > > Alan but as he was a prime driver he has to take some of the blame. What > I > can't > > take is the slavish devotion and copying of Lemmy, talk about stifling > > creativity and originality - 25 years of copying someone else is a bit > sad. > The > > last two gigs have been amongst the best I ever seen - what's more all me > old > > mates have returned! > > So all in all, Alan yes you helped keep the band alive but on the > negative > side > > for some periods you relegated them to being almost a tribute act. > Creativity > > was stifled and the band did not grow. Proof of the pudding time for Dave > Brock, > > is the next album going to be any good? > > I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the > first > > band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I > have > to > > say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. > > > > Dave > > PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent > > ---- Colin Allen wrote: > > > If Hawkwind had a front man for most of that time, it probably was > Alan. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, iainferguson at AOL.COM > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: iainferguson at AOL.CO > M > > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 4:32 PM > > > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's > been > > rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, > none > > > of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. > > > > > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and to > be > > honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz > , > > Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > > > > > regards > > > iain > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ian Abrahams > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: gary shindler > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > > > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind > for > 22 > > > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid > and all > > > > that but... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Ian Abrahams > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > > > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan > Davey: > > > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders > through the > > new > > > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register > link > at > > > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, > Eclectic > > > Devils, there. > > > > > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, includin > g a > > > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review > from > Oz > > > > > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found > singing > the > > > > > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic > now!!). > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 30 23:26:52 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:26:52 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho In-Reply-To: <20090930194045.50NQF.401163.root@web05-winn.ispmail.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: I find the work Alan does with synthesizers very creative, of course the Lemmy influence is there, but Alan did bring his own sounds to the band, too. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Dave Hall Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:41 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho Hi Just been onto the site. Give me a break - frontman, is he jesting? I remember seeing Alan at his first gig at Stonehenge and it was great. However a bit odd because that year the big rumour was that Lemmy was coming out on the tour - so what we got was a clone. The following year was great - Black Sword, the biz. After this Alan seemed to descend into becoming even more of a Lemmy clone to the extent of copying his vocal style and the positioning of the mic - this was a bit of a bore really. To be honest a lot of the guys who came to the gigs with me complained there was nothing new and the band had become there own 70s tribute act - they stopped coming because of that. The trio years were crap - endless recycles and programmed synths - no soul, no spirit. Julian Cope described it well, they had gone into stasis. The high points over the years - the return of Simon House, Ron Tree and the Alien tour [Alan bounced him out the band I believe] - now Ron was a frontman. All the duff stuff can't be laid at Alan but as he was a prime driver he has to take some of the blame. What I can't take is the slavish devotion and copying of Lemmy, talk about stifling creativity and originality - 25 years of copying someone else is a bit sad. The last two gigs have been amongst the best I ever seen - what's more all me old mates have returned! So all in all, Alan yes you helped keep the band alive but on the negative side for some periods you relegated them to being almost a tribute act. Creativity was stifled and the band did not grow. Proof of the pudding time for Dave Brock, is the next album going to be any good? I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. Dave PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent ---- Colin Allen wrote: > If Hawkwind had a front man for most of that time, it probably was > Alan. > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, iainferguson at AOL.COM > wrote: > > > From: iainferguson at AOL.COM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 4:32 PM > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's > been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the > two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just > fans doing it all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and > to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had > when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind > for 22 > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan > Davey: > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register link at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found singing the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic now!!). > > Ian From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 30 23:29:31 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:29:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho In-Reply-To: <8CC1019AFFB7A8F-4D04-12EDD@webmail-d074.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: You caught the Sonic Attack tour, please don't look, I'm turning green around the edges with envy. Actually, I'm very happy with the way my history with Hawkwind developed. Too bad you had to resort to cupping your hands around your ears, but if it worked, I'd do it too. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:17 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho Why do you call Mr Dibs an Incumbent? That is how you described Alan. After all you said about Alan, do you, if you delve deep back to the 70's, want Lemmy back or are you prepared to accept the band in their latest incarnation? ? I first saw Hawkwind on the Sonic Attack tour in 1981 at Preston's Guildhall. ?Since then I have never looked back. ? Now I live and breathe Hawkwind. Then band are moving onward, ever onward. ?The Porchester gigs were incredible. ?The band were superb, the sound was not. ?There was a SCREEEEEE. Yes, it was me that suggested cupping the hands behind the ears. It worked. See you at Wolves and Manchester. Steve. (PS - Chris - I'll not be going to Monster Magnet - I'll be in Manchester. So I'll see you for a pint or 2 at Wolves.) I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. Dave PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent -----Original Message----- From: Dave Hall To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:40 Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website Ho Ho Ho Hi Just been onto the site. Give me a break - frontman, is he jesting? I remember seeing Alan at his first gig at Stonehenge and it was great. However a bit odd because that year the big rumour was that Lemmy was coming out on the tour - so what we got was a clone. The following year was great - Black Sword, the biz. After this Alan seemed to descend into becoming even more of a Lemmy clone to the extent of copying his vocal style and the positioning of the mic - this was a bit of a bore really. To be honest a lot of the guys who came to the gigs with me complained there was nothing new and the band had become there own 70s tribute act - they stopped coming because of that. The trio years were crap - endless recycles and programmed synths - no soul, no spirit. Julian Cope described it well, they had gone into stasis. The high points over the years - the return of Simon House, Ron Tree and the Alien tour [Alan bounced him out the band I believe] - now Ron was a frontman. All the duff stuff can't be laid at Alan but as he was a prime driver he has to take some of the blame. What I can't take is the slavish devotion and copying of Lemmy, talk about stifling creativity and originality - 25 years of copying someone else is a bit sad. The last two gigs have been amongst the best I ever seen - what's more all me old mates have returned! So all in all, Alan yes you helped keep the band alive but on the negative side for some periods you relegated them to being almost a tribute act. Creativity was stifled and the band did not grow. Proof of the pudding time for Dave Brock, is the next album going to be any good? I have been to gigs on every tour from the late 70s (Hawkwind were the first band I saw), festivals, Stonehenge, Hawkestra, Hawkcon, Donnington and I have to say the band have been so great recently I can't wait to the next one. Dave PS Jury is still out on the present bass incumbent ---- Colin Allen wrote: > If Hawkwind had a front man for most of that time, it probably was > Alan. > > --- On Tue, 29/9/09, iainferguson at AOL.COM > wrote: > > > From: iainferguson at AOL.COM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 4:32 PM > > > Hi folks, > > Please can we try not not get all hot under the collar over this, it's > been rather pleasant here for a while, with no bitching between the two teams, none of the musicians are making any comments and it's just fans doing it all. > > To be fair to Ian, he was just pointing out Alan's new website,? and > to be honest, Alan was the nearest thing to a front man the band had when Rizz , Bridget , and Ron wern't in the band.. > > regards > iain > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 4:23 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > > > > > > > > > > Why tell me??? I only passed on the link! > > > > > ________________________________ > From: gary shindler > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:11:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Alan was the Bass player/Synth, vocalist and front man(?) for Hawkwind > for 22 > years. That seems a bit of a stretch, Ian. I know he didn't get paid and all > that but... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ian Abrahams > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:51:18 AM > Subject: HW: Alan Davey Website > > Hello All, > > Just to let you know, there's a new website just launched for Alan > Davey: > www.alandaveymusic.com and a special offer on the 1st 50 orders through the new > site, so worth getting along and registering there (find the register > link at > the bottom of the home page). You can order the new AD solo album, Eclectic > Devils, there. > > Eclectic Devils has been getting some very strong reviews, including a > three-star review in Record Collector and a fantastic four-star review from Oz > Hardwick in the latest R2 (Rock N Reel) (where I can also be found > singing the > praises of Hall & Oates' 'Along the Red Ledge' LP, but I'm off-topic > now!!). > > Ian