From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jul 1 10:21:12 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:21:12 -0700 Subject: BOC.com Band Picture In-Reply-To: <663352411209637a090a10ff3a966afb@pop.logical.net> Message-ID: I really like Allen's piano intro to "Joan Crawford." Of course I'm a sucker for over the top piano, just like Mike Garson's piano on "Aladdin Sane." The last time I saw BOC (with Danny Miranda and Bobby Rondinelli) I was really impressed how much guitar Allen played, to me he was the band's secret weapon. And he dated Patti Smith, too. Too cool. Gary ________________________________ From: "js3619 at ACMENET.NET" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:06:13 PM Subject: Re: BOC.com Band Picture From http://blueoystercult.com/Band/Richie.html : "Since the retirement of Allen Lanier, Richie has switched over to the guitars/keyboards position, both of which he's quite the master!" Allen doesn't have a "Former Members" page on the History section of the site yet. Perhaps it's still in the process of being written. Either way, a really lousy way to bid farewell to someone who has been there almost always since the beginning.? This should be fun: What is everyone's favorite Allen Lanier keyboard and/or guitar moment? At very least, his vest and a pack of smokes should be enshrined in the rock n roll hall of fame. Jason. On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:59:25 -0400, Joe Loehr wrote: > I've noticed that They've updated the band's picture on the home page. > > No Allen and Rudy Sarzo's been added. > > Joe From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 1 11:05:13 2009 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:05:13 EDT Subject: BOC.com Band Picture Message-ID: In a message dated 7/1/2009 9:22:45 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM writes: The last time I saw BOC (with Danny Miranda and Bobby Rondinelli) I was really impressed how much guitar Allen played, to me he was the band's secret weapon. And he dated Patti Smith, too. Too cool. The last time I saw them was in Fort Wayne when they played our Three Rivers Festival back in ' 04. Buck's amp went out in the middle of 'Last Days of May,' and Allen stepped up to play while Buck and the roadies sorted it out. Allen got a big round of applause for it, too. Joe **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) From tjackson at SYR.EDU Wed Jul 1 11:07:58 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:07:58 -0400 Subject: BOC.com Band Picture In-Reply-To: <778510.19335.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I can't single out a particular keyboard moment because I like them all. I think Allen was a master at finding the part that would work best within a particular song. And he was content to lay back and support the song rather than continually trying to show off. It takes a true pro to approach his work with that attitude... Guitar-wise? Well, live, at least during the past 10 years or so, I'd say Allen was a helluva keyboardist! But on record he was obviously all over the first few albums, and again, always worked to further the song rather than himself. Perhaps his best attribute as a guitarist is that you can't point out a lot of showoff moments, but you can point to a lot of great songs made better for his having played on them... As for Patti Smith? Well, better him than me! tj -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:21 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: BOC.com Band Picture I really like Allen's piano intro to "Joan Crawford." Of course I'm a sucker for over the top piano, just like Mike Garson's piano on "Aladdin Sane." The last time I saw BOC (with Danny Miranda and Bobby Rondinelli) I was really impressed how much guitar Allen played, to me he was the band's secret weapon. And he dated Patti Smith, too. Too cool. Gary ________________________________ From: "js3619 at ACMENET.NET" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:06:13 PM Subject: Re: BOC.com Band Picture >From http://blueoystercult.com/Band/Richie.html : "Since the retirement of Allen Lanier, Richie has switched over to the guitars/keyboards position, both of which he's quite the master!" Allen doesn't have a "Former Members" page on the History section of the site yet. Perhaps it's still in the process of being written. Either way, a really lousy way to bid farewell to someone who has been there almost always since the beginning.? This should be fun: What is everyone's favorite Allen Lanier keyboard and/or guitar moment? At very least, his vest and a pack of smokes should be enshrined in the rock n roll hall of fame. Jason. On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:59:25 -0400, Joe Loehr wrote: > I've noticed that They've updated the band's picture on the home page. > > No Allen and Rudy Sarzo's been added. > > Joe From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jul 1 11:11:50 2009 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (js3619 at ACMENET.NET) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:11:50 -0400 Subject: BOC.com Band Picture In-Reply-To: <778510.19335.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: for the 'boards: His solo in "Quicklime Girl" is just suitably unnerving. The break in Unknown Tongue but "Death Valley Nights" takes the cake for mood. ...come to think of it, the synth swirl on Astronomy was always effective on ST. I think his best (or at least most notable) guitar work is on the Stalk-Forrest Group material - a great jangly yet swinging vibe. He contributed atmosphere to the band's material, which is no small matter. On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:21:12 -0700, gary shindler wrote: > I really like Allen's piano intro to "Joan Crawford." Of course I'm a > sucker for over the top piano, just like Mike Garson's piano on "Aladdin > Sane." > The last time I saw BOC (with Danny Miranda and Bobby Rondinelli) I was > really impressed how much guitar Allen played, to me he was the band's > secret weapon. And he dated Patti Smith, too. Too cool. > Gary > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "js3619 at ACMENET.NET" > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:06:13 PM > Subject: Re: BOC.com Band Picture > > From http://blueoystercult.com/Band/Richie.html : > > "Since the retirement of Allen Lanier, Richie has switched over to the > guitars/keyboards position, both of which he's quite the master!" > > Allen doesn't have a "Former Members" page on the History section of the > site yet. Perhaps it's still in the process of being written. > > Either way, a really lousy way to bid farewell to someone who has been > there almost always since the beginning.? This should be fun: > > What is everyone's favorite Allen Lanier keyboard and/or guitar moment? > > At very least, his vest and a pack of smokes should be enshrined in the > rock n roll hall of fame. > > Jason. > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:59:25 -0400, Joe Loehr wrote: >> I've noticed that They've updated the band's picture on the home page. >> >> No Allen and Rudy Sarzo's been added. >> >> Joe From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Wed Jul 1 11:23:39 2009 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:23:39 -0400 Subject: BOC.com Band Picture In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E821CC55716@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Best Allen moments I can remember are one in Randolph, NJ in the late 80s or very early 90s when I went back stage to give him some photos I had taken of him at a gig a few months before and he darted away, then came back up to me, took the picture from my hand, gave me a quick 'thanks.' and ran off out of sight. It reminded me of trying to feed a stray cat. Best keyboard moment was at The Stone Pony in Asbury Park, NJ early 90s when he started playing a medley of an original moody piece (similar to the intro to Joan Crawford) along with the themes to Twin Peaks and The X-Files, it was very cool! --EF > From http://blueoystercult.com/Band/Richie.html : > > "Since the retirement of Allen Lanier, Richie has switched over to the > guitars/keyboards position, both of which he's quite the master!" > > Allen doesn't have a "Former Members" page on the History section of the > site yet. Perhaps it's still in the process of being written. > > Either way, a really lousy way to bid farewell to someone who has been > there almost always since the beginning.? This should be fun: > > What is everyone's favorite Allen Lanier keyboard and/or guitar moment? > > At very least, his vest and a pack of smokes should be enshrined in the > rock n roll hall of fame. > > Jason. > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:59:25 -0400, Joe Loehr wrote: >> I've noticed that They've updated the band's picture on the home page. >> >> No Allen and Rudy Sarzo's been added. >> >> Joe > > > > -- "Until Further Notice I am Unique!" From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jul 1 12:26:18 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 09:26:18 -0700 Subject: BOC.com Band Picture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Buck was the only one that did any signing when I saw them in Newkirk, Oklahoma. It was sad that it was a country music honky tonk. One idiot I know complained because there wasn't a light show. I thought they were a lot better than when I saw them on the "Revolution by Night"?tour. ________________________________ From: E F To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 10:23:39 AM Subject: Re: BOC.com Band Picture Best Allen moments I can remember are one in Randolph, NJ in the late 80s or very early 90s when I went back stage to give him some photos I had taken of him at a gig a few months before and he darted away, then came back up to me, took the picture from my hand, gave me a quick 'thanks.' and ran off out of sight.? It reminded me of trying to feed a stray cat. Best keyboard moment was at The Stone Pony in Asbury Park, NJ early 90s when he started playing a medley of an original moody piece (similar to the intro to Joan Crawford) along with the themes to Twin Peaks and The X-Files, it was very cool! ? --EF > From http://blueoystercult.com/Band/Richie.html : > > "Since the retirement of Allen Lanier, Richie has switched over to the > guitars/keyboards position, both of which he's quite the master!" > > Allen doesn't have a "Former Members" page on the History section of the > site yet. Perhaps it's still in the process of being written. > > Either way, a really lousy way to bid farewell to someone who has been > there almost always since the beginning.? This should be fun: > > What is everyone's favorite Allen Lanier keyboard and/or guitar moment? > > At very least, his vest and a pack of smokes should be enshrined in the > rock n roll hall of fame. > > Jason. > > On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:59:25 -0400, Joe Loehr wrote: >> I've noticed that They've updated the band's picture on the home page. >> >> No Allen and Rudy Sarzo's been added. >> >> Joe > > > > --"Until Further Notice I am Unique!" From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Jul 1 14:02:40 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:02:40 +0000 Subject: Mike Burro shows in July & August Message-ID: 08/14/2009 07:00 PM - Bust Stop Music Cafe 148 South Broadway Pitman, New Jersey 08071 US Cost:check on venue website Description:special acoustic duo of Mike, plus Stewkey of the band Nazz visit: http://www.myspace.com/busstopmusic or call ( 856 ) 582-0009 http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkey Diffy Productions presents: at The All Call Inn http://www.myspace.com/diffyproductions 07/24/2009 08:30 PM The All Call Inn http://www.myspace.com/theallcallinn 214 Weber Ave Ewing, New Jersey 08630 Cost:$5.00 Description:Mike Burro http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 The show will be 21+, will have a $5 cover and will start at 9 PM. All Call is located at 214 Weber Ave Ewing NJ 08638. Also playing: Sundays Murder http://www.myspace.com/sundaysmurder Groove Train Riders http://www.myspace.com/groovetrainriders Evelyn Rose www.myspace.com/evelynnrose Kind of a mixed bill but it should be fun. Peace, Mike 08/14/2009 07:00 PM - Bus Stop Music Cafe A night of hoodu, boogie, roots & blues 148 South Broadway Pitman, New Jersey 08071 Cost:check on venue website Description:special acoustic duo of Mike Burro, plus Stewkey, the leader of Nazz visit: http://www.myspace.com/busstopmusic or call ( 856 ) 582-0009 http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkey plus The Missing Keys: http://www.myspace.com/themissingkeys _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 1 14:06:57 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:06:57 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album Message-ID: TREV AND KEV - LIVE AT THE COSMIC PUFFIN ?7.99 + postage...Buy it here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html Real Festival Music photo-review of Cosmic Puffin Festival: http://www.ralfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html Trev and Kev have broken all the rules - Can this be a new form of music? Psychedelic Space Rock is supposed to be serious music played by electric bands, that don't also include Country and Western, Rock 'n' Roll, or Madonna songs in their set. Well here is the exception that breaks the rules, as you might expect from a duo fronted by Judge Trev of INNER CITY UNIT - the seminal psychedelic punk band that reached No. 1 in the Indie charts with a song about the Bader-Meinhof gang! Yes, there is agit-prop here too. Judge Trev, Hawkwind composer, has penned two new and unreleased songs for this album, "The Lost Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism" and a first version of "The Ballad of Fred Goodwin". Mix this with a good helping of Laurel and Hardy-type humour and you have one of the most enjoyable and eye-opening live albums from this year's festivals. Judge Trev guitar/vocals Kev Ellis harmonica/vocals/synthesizer Helped by Andy Radburn on Synthesizer 1. Beside the Sea-Side Thoms 2. Watching the Grass Grow (Watching the Gwass Gwow - a la Nik Turner) Thoms/Turner 3. Little Black Egg Nightcrawlers 4. Beautiful Stranger/Master of the Universe Medley Madonna/Turner 5. Raj Neesh Thoms/Turner 6. Skinheads in Leningrad Thoms 7. Ohio Neil Young 8. Ghost Riders in the Sky Stan Jones 9. The Ballad of Fred Goodwin Thoms 10. Hitler's Favourite Tune Thoms 11. Fulson Prison Cash 12. No Regrets Scott Walker 13. High School Confidential Lewis 14. The Lost Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism Thoms Live multi-track recording April 12th 2009 Cosmic Puffin Festival, Mersea Island, UK 1 hour 2 mins 53 secs Mix: Kev Ellis/Andy Radburn Mastering: Real Festival Music A Real Festival Music archival quality product...guaranteed for 100 years by Taiyo Yuden -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:28 PM To: "BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List" Subject: Inner City Unit's Judge Trev takes shocking new musical direction > Yes, this Hawkwind composer and main composer of the ground-breaking Inner > City Unit has shot off at a tangent into a new and shocking music/ > performance genre! > > His new album "Live at the Cosmic Puffin", details of which will be revealed > shortly, is a step into something completely different and may stun many > members of this list. LATCP contains two brand-new Judge Trev compositions > and includes songs by Madonna, Stan Jones, and Scott Walker! > > The Judge himself explained: > > "Well, being the best space-rock electric guitarist on the scene today man, > I've found it hard to find other musicians who are good enough to play with. > Most of them are afraid of my power, so I've decided to try my hand with a > comedy duo...yea...dig...comedy man...Trev and Kev. Kev's a bit fat and not > really good-looking enough to actually be on a stage in front of people, but > I decided to give the boy a chance...he can play the mouth organ a bit and > at least people laugh at him a lot. We've just finished mastering our new > album and I sincerely hope that all you fans out there like what we've put > together. Yea man, It's a cool album, man. My last major studio album was > with Hawkwind's Ron Tree, but the deal with Black Widow records got screwed > up by management... so it looks as if being a comedian is the only avenue > open for my creativity, man." I'm sorry but that's the way it is...I didn't > ask to be born, man." > > There you go. We hope that you'll buy his great new album and give this > legendary and vastly underrated God of Rock a chance to get out there and > make it happen...Watch this space. > > Discover the Green Festivals > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:25 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Rest in Peace, Michael Jackson, now listen to live at the > cosmic puffin > >> On 6/27/09, trev wrote: >>> >>> dear tex coleman, >> >> >> yes? >> >> now you've published sloterdijks mail out addys yet again to the spammers >> of >>> the world so that they can add them to thei >> >> spam lists >> >> >> darn >> >> >> bcc not cc... slotter... >> >> what? >> >> not that i'd expect anything else from an oil well-oaf...ha ha >> >> >> hmm >> >> i'm sending you the first burn of "live at the cosmic puffin", since it >> will >>> go down in history as a milestone in the development of popular music, >>> signed >> >> >> cool >> >> consider this full and complete payment for all and everything that you >>> think i owe you... >> >> >> you owe me nothing, I used you to complain about cockroaches, I knew you >> wouldn't mind.... >> >> he he >>> >>> judge >>> >> From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 1 14:26:12 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:26:12 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oops rfm link was wrong -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:06 PM To: Subject: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album > TREV AND KEV - LIVE AT THE COSMIC PUFFIN > > ?7.99 + postage...Buy it here: > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > > Real Festival Music photo-review of Cosmic Puffin Festival: > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > > > Trev and Kev have broken all the rules - Can this be a new form of music? Psychedelic Space Rock is supposed to be serious music played by electric bands, that don't also include Country and Western, Rock 'n' Roll, or Madonna songs in their set. Well here is the exception that breaks the rules, as you might expect from a duo fronted by Judge Trev of INNER CITY UNIT - the seminal psychedelic punk band that reached No. 1 in the Indie charts with a song about the Bader-Meinhof gang! Yes, there is agit-prop here too. Judge Trev, Hawkwind composer, has penned two new and unreleased songs for this album, "The Lost Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism" and a first version of "The Ballad of Fred Goodwin". > > > Mix this with a good helping of Laurel and Hardy-type humour and you have one of the most enjoyable and eye-opening live albums from this year's festivals. > > > Judge Trev guitar/vocals > > Kev Ellis harmonica/vocals/synthesizer > > > > Helped by Andy Radburn on Synthesizer > > > > 1. Beside the Sea-Side Thoms > > 2. Watching the Grass Grow (Watching the Gwass Gwow - a la Nik Turner) Thoms/Turner > > 3. Little Black Egg Nightcrawlers > > 4. Beautiful Stranger/Master of the Universe Medley Madonna/Turner > > 5. Raj Neesh Thoms/Turner > > 6. Skinheads in Leningrad Thoms > > 7. Ohio Neil Young > > 8. Ghost Riders in the Sky Stan Jones > > 9. The Ballad of Fred Goodwin Thoms > > 10. Hitler's Favourite Tune Thoms > > 11. Fulson Prison Cash > > 12. No Regrets Scott Walker > > 13. High School Confidential Lewis > > 14. The Lost Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism Thoms > > > > Live multi-track recording > > April 12th 2009 Cosmic Puffin Festival, Mersea Island, UK 1 hour 2 mins 53 secs > > > > Mix: Kev Ellis/Andy Radburn > > Mastering: Real Festival Music > > > > A Real Festival Music archival quality product...guaranteed for 100 years by Taiyo Yuden > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "trev" > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:28 PM > To: "BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List" > Subject: Inner City Unit's Judge Trev takes shocking new musical direction > >> Yes, this Hawkwind composer and main composer of the ground-breaking Inner >> City Unit has shot off at a tangent into a new and shocking music/ >> performance genre! >> >> His new album "Live at the Cosmic Puffin", details of which will be revealed >> shortly, is a step into something completely different and may stun many >> members of this list. LATCP contains two brand-new Judge Trev compositions >> and includes songs by Madonna, Stan Jones, and Scott Walker! >> >> The Judge himself explained: >> >> "Well, being the best space-rock electric guitarist on the scene today man, >> I've found it hard to find other musicians who are good enough to play with. >> Most of them are afraid of my power, so I've decided to try my hand with a >> comedy duo...yea...dig...comedy man...Trev and Kev. Kev's a bit fat and not >> really good-looking enough to actually be on a stage in front of people, but >> I decided to give the boy a chance...he can play the mouth organ a bit and >> at least people laugh at him a lot. We've just finished mastering our new >> album and I sincerely hope that all you fans out there like what we've put >> together. Yea man, It's a cool album, man. My last major studio album was >> with Hawkwind's Ron Tree, but the deal with Black Widow records got screwed >> up by management... so it looks as if being a comedian is the only avenue >> open for my creativity, man." I'm sorry but that's the way it is...I didn't >> ask to be born, man." >> >> There you go. We hope that you'll buy his great new album and give this >> legendary and vastly underrated God of Rock a chance to get out there and >> make it happen...Watch this space. >> >> Discover the Green Festivals >> REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk >> Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:25 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: Rest in Peace, Michael Jackson, now listen to live at the >> cosmic puffin >> >>> On 6/27/09, trev wrote: >>>> >>>> dear tex coleman, >>> >>> >>> yes? >>> >>> now you've published sloterdijks mail out addys yet again to the spammers >>> of >>>> the world so that they can add them to thei >>> >>> spam lists >>> >>> >>> darn >>> >>> >>> bcc not cc... slotter... >>> >>> what? >>> >>> not that i'd expect anything else from an oil well-oaf...ha ha >>> >>> >>> hmm >>> >>> i'm sending you the first burn of "live at the cosmic puffin", since it >>> will >>>> go down in history as a milestone in the development of popular music, >>>> signed >>> >>> >>> cool >>> >>> consider this full and complete payment for all and everything that you >>>> think i owe you... >>> >>> >>> you owe me nothing, I used you to complain about cockroaches, I knew you >>> wouldn't mind.... >>> >>> he he >>>> >>>> judge >>>> >>> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 1 14:34:20 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:34:20 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album..right links In-Reply-To: Message-ID: this is the right one -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:26 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album > oops rfm link was wrong > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "trev" > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:06 PM > To: > Subject: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album > >> TREV AND KEV - LIVE AT THE COSMIC PUFFIN >> >> ?7.99 + postage...Buy it here: >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html >> >> Real Festival Music photo-review of Cosmic Puffin Festival: >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/images.html >> >> >> Trev and Kev have broken all the rules - Can this be a new form of music? Psychedelic Space Rock is supposed to be serious music played by electric bands, that don't also include Country and Western, Rock 'n' Roll, or Madonna songs in their set. Well here is the exception that breaks the rules, as you might expect from a duo fronted by Judge Trev of INNER CITY UNIT - the seminal psychedelic punk band that reached No. 1 in the Indie charts with a song about the Bader-Meinhof gang! Yes, there is agit-prop here too. Judge Trev, Hawkwind composer, has penned two new and unreleased songs for this album, "The Lost Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism" and a first version of "The Ballad of Fred Goodwin". >> >> >> Mix this with a good helping of Laurel and Hardy-type humour and you have one of the most enjoyable and eye-opening live albums from this year's festivals. >> >> >> Judge Trev guitar/vocals >> >> Kev Ellis harmonica/vocals/synthesizer >> >> >> >> Helped by Andy Radburn on Synthesizer >> >> >> >> 1. Beside the Sea-Side Thoms >> >> 2. Watching the Grass Grow (Watching the Gwass Gwow - a la Nik Turner) Thoms/Turner >> >> 3. Little Black Egg Nightcrawlers >> >> 4. Beautiful Stranger/Master of the Universe Medley Madonna/Turner >> >> 5. Raj Neesh Thoms/Turner >> >> 6. Skinheads in Leningrad Thoms >> >> 7. Ohio Neil Young >> >> 8. Ghost Riders in the Sky Stan Jones >> >> 9. The Ballad of Fred Goodwin Thoms >> >> 10. Hitler's Favourite Tune Thoms >> >> 11. Fulson Prison Cash >> >> 12. No Regrets Scott Walker >> >> 13. High School Confidential Lewis >> >> 14. The Lost Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism Thoms >> >> >> >> Live multi-track recording >> >> April 12th 2009 Cosmic Puffin Festival, Mersea Island, UK 1 hour 2 mins 53 secs >> >> >> >> Mix: Kev Ellis/Andy Radburn >> >> Mastering: Real Festival Music >> >> >> >> A Real Festival Music archival quality product...guaranteed for 100 years by Taiyo Yuden >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "trev" >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:28 PM >> To: "BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List" >> Subject: Inner City Unit's Judge Trev takes shocking new musical direction >> >>> Yes, this Hawkwind composer and main composer of the ground-breaking Inner >>> City Unit has shot off at a tangent into a new and shocking music/ >>> performance genre! >>> >>> His new album "Live at the Cosmic Puffin", details of which will be revealed >>> shortly, is a step into something completely different and may stun many >>> members of this list. LATCP contains two brand-new Judge Trev compositions >>> and includes songs by Madonna, Stan Jones, and Scott Walker! >>> >>> The Judge himself explained: >>> >>> "Well, being the best space-rock electric guitarist on the scene today man, >>> I've found it hard to find other musicians who are good enough to play with. >>> Most of them are afraid of my power, so I've decided to try my hand with a >>> comedy duo...yea...dig...comedy man...Trev and Kev. Kev's a bit fat and not >>> really good-looking enough to actually be on a stage in front of people, but >>> I decided to give the boy a chance...he can play the mouth organ a bit and >>> at least people laugh at him a lot. We've just finished mastering our new >>> album and I sincerely hope that all you fans out there like what we've put >>> together. Yea man, It's a cool album, man. My last major studio album was >>> with Hawkwind's Ron Tree, but the deal with Black Widow records got screwed >>> up by management... so it looks as if being a comedian is the only avenue >>> open for my creativity, man." I'm sorry but that's the way it is...I didn't >>> ask to be born, man." >>> >>> There you go. We hope that you'll buy his great new album and give this >>> legendary and vastly underrated God of Rock a chance to get out there and >>> make it happen...Watch this space. >>> >>> Discover the Green Festivals >>> REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk >>> Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:25 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: Rest in Peace, Michael Jackson, now listen to live at the >>> cosmic puffin >>> >>>> On 6/27/09, trev wrote: >>>>> >>>>> dear tex coleman, >>>> >>>> >>>> yes? >>>> >>>> now you've published sloterdijks mail out addys yet again to the spammers >>>> of >>>>> the world so that they can add them to thei >>>> >>>> spam lists >>>> >>>> >>>> darn >>>> >>>> >>>> bcc not cc... slotter... >>>> >>>> what? >>>> >>>> not that i'd expect anything else from an oil well-oaf...ha ha >>>> >>>> >>>> hmm >>>> >>>> i'm sending you the first burn of "live at the cosmic puffin", since it >>>> will >>>>> go down in history as a milestone in the development of popular music, >>>>> signed >>>> >>>> >>>> cool >>>> >>>> consider this full and complete payment for all and everything that you >>>>> think i owe you... >>>> >>>> >>>> you owe me nothing, I used you to complain about cockroaches, I knew you >>>> wouldn't mind.... >>>> >>>> he he >>>>> >>>>> judge >>>>> >>>> >> > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 1 14:35:53 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (swann1066) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:35:53 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album Message-ID: Ah, JLL's "High School Confidential". For a moment there I had a disturbing but rather hysterical image of Trev & Co. covering Rough Trade... Steve -----Original Message----- From: trev Date: Wednesday, Jul 1, 2009 2:29 pm Subject: Re: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET oops rfm link was wrong -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:06 PM To: Subject: Hawkwind composer Judge Trev's new album > TREV AND KEV - LIVE AT THE COSMIC PUFFIN > > ?7.99 + postage...Buy it here: > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > > Real Festival Music photo-review of Cosmic Puffin Festival: > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > > > Trev and Kev have broken all the rules - Can this be a new form of music? Psychedelic Space Rock is supposed to be serious music played by electric bands, that don't also include Country and Western, Rock 'n' Roll, or Madonna songs in their set. Well here is the exception that breaks the rules, as you might expect from a duo fronted by Judge Trev of INNER CITY UNIT - the seminal psychedelic punk band that reached No. 1 in the Indie charts with a song about the Bader-Meinhof gang! Yes, there is agit-prop here too. Judge Trev, Hawkwind composer, has penned two new and unreleased songs for this album, "The Lost Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism" and a first version of "The Ballad of Fred Goodwin". > > > Mix this with a good helping of Laurel and Hardy-type humour and you have one of the most enjoyable and eye-opening live albums from this year's festivals. > > > Judge Trev guitar/vocals > > Kev Ellis harmonica/vocals/synthesizer > > > > Helped by Andy Radburn on Synthesizer > > > > 1. Beside the Sea-Side Thoms > > 2. Watching the Grass Grow (Watching the Gwass Gwow - a la Nik Turner) Thoms/Turner > > 3. Little Black Egg Nightcrawlers > > 4. Beautiful Stranger/Master of the Universe Medley Madonna/Turner > > 5. Raj Neesh Thoms/Turner > > 6. Skinheads in Leningrad Thoms > > 7. Ohio Neil Young > > 8. Ghost Riders in the Sky Stan Jones > > 9. The Ballad of Fred Goodwin Thoms > > 10. Hitler's Favourite Tune Thoms > > 11. Fulson Prison Cash > > 12. No Regrets Scott Walker > > 13. High School Confidential Lewis > > 14. The Lost Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism Thoms > > > > Live multi-track recording > > April 12th 2009 Cosmic Puffin Festival, Mersea Island, UK 1 hour 2 mins 53 secs > > > > From jt_ at COX.NET Wed Jul 1 14:50:30 2009 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 14:50:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: Re: Joan Crawford (re BOC.com Band Picture) In-Reply-To: <0F1A30D891A94945ACE56D9815D54E821CC55716@suex07-mbx-09.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: -> > I really like Allen's piano intro to "Joan Crawford." Of course I'm a sucker for over the top piano, just like Mike Garson's piano on "Aladdin Sane." Thought the piano intro was actually written by Al or Joe. Joe, according to this? http://www.hotrails.co.uk/blueskybag/joebouchard/010608.htm From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Jul 2 05:32:49 2009 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Mr H) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 05:32:49 -0400 Subject: Spacerock article Message-ID: That space rock article in Instant magazine is now available to download here; http://www.instantmagazine.co.uk/previous-issues/current-instant.pdf SAH From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Jul 2 09:02:22 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:02:22 +0000 Subject: Mike Burro shows in July & August ( 8/14 show w/ Stewkey of NAZZ ) Message-ID: Diffy Productions presents: at The All Call Inn http://www.myspace.com/diffyproductions 07/24/2009 08:30 PM The All Call Inn http://www.myspace.com/theallcallinn 214 Weber Ave Ewing, New Jersey 08630 Cost:$5.00 Description:Mike Burro http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 The show will be 21+, will have a $5 cover and will start at 9 PM. All Call is located at 214 Weber Ave Ewing NJ 08638. Also playing: Sundays Murder http://www.myspace.com/sundaysmurder Groove Train Riders http://www.myspace.com/groovetrainriders Evelyn Rose http://www.myspace.com/evelynnrose Kind of a mixed bill but it should be fun. Peace, Mike 08/14/2009 07:00 PM - Bus Stop Music Cafe A night of hoodu, boogie, roots & blues 148 South Broadway Pitman, New Jersey 08071 Cost:check on venue website Description:special acoustic duo of Mike Burro, plus Stewkey, the leader of Nazz visit: http://www.myspace.com/busstopmusic or call ( 856 ) 582-0009 http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkey plus The Missing Keys: http://www.myspace.com/themissingkeys _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jul 3 16:49:37 2009 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:49:37 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind reissues Message-ID: The nice Esoterica people who are reissuing the Hawkwind catalogue have a newsletter update they send round occasionally and this time the following was mentioned - which I post here in case anyone who doesn't get the newsletter might be interested. cheers jill *********** Also just to mention, I came across a box the other day with some spare copies of both Captain Lockheed and Lucky Leif that we did on Eclectic in 2007 (both with lovely packaging, slipcased etc) No need to pay silly money as per ebay-if anyone wants one I am charging ?12.00 and no postage to anywhere (although I wont ship to Russia, Indonesia or South America--postage there is one big black hole it would seem!. You just need to pay me by paypal to esotericarts at btconnect.com and make sure you put whic h titles you want in the notes and that your address is on the payment. Ive got around 15 of each, so once theyve gone-theyve gone but if you order and they have gone--I will refund back immediately and pop you an email. ******** ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 3 17:46:37 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:46:37 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind reissues In-Reply-To: <5EA9BF4E528B43B0926430678906A9B3@jillspc> Message-ID: It also mentioned that... "September will see the mighty "Levitation" out--this will be a double disc." Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jill Strobridge To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:49 Subject: Hawkwind reissues The nice Esoterica people who are reissuing the Hawkwind catalogue have a newsletter update they send round occasionally and this time the following was mentioned - which I post here in case anyone who doesn't get the newsletter might be interested.? cheers? jill? ? ***********? Also just to mention, I came across a box the other day with some spare copies of both Captain Lockheed and Lucky Leif that we did on Eclectic in 2007 (both with lovely packaging, slipcased etc) No need to pay silly money as per ebay-if anyone wants one? I am charging ?12.00 and no postage to anywhere (although I wont ship to Russia, Indonesia or South America--postage there is one big black hole it would seem!. You just need to pay me by paypal to esotericarts at btconnect.com and make sure you put whic? h titles you want in the notes and that your address is on the payment.? Ive got around 15 of each, so once theyve gone-theyve gone but if you order and they have gone--I will refund back immediately and pop you an email.? ********? ? ==============================================? Jill Strobridge ? ============================================== ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sat Jul 4 11:51:22 2009 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:51:22 +0200 Subject: HW: London Record Stores? In-Reply-To: <8CBCA3EDFEC55CD-C9C-7F2@mblk-d49.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: hello, going to London in late July. I wonder if anyone can recommend some good record stores (used vinyl) to visit for a common Hawkfan? thanks in advance, .joe -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Jul 4 14:30:20 2009 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:30:20 +0000 Subject: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary gig Travelodge? Message-ID: Hi Folks, Where's everyone heading? I haven't booked any thing yet..... Cheers, Mick --- On Thu, 30/4/09, M Holmes wrote: > From: M Holmes > Subject: Re: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary gig Travelodge? > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 30 April, 2009, 11:48 AM > Jill Strobridge writes: > > > That's exactly what's > needed!???Travelodge are basic but there's > nothing > > hugely wrong with them > > HELLOOO??? Bar CLOSES at *ELEVEN* > > That's not like an amp that goes up to Eleven. > > FoFP > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, > registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Jul 4 20:47:56 2009 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 19:47:56 -0500 Subject: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary gig Travelodge? In-Reply-To: <420089.15091.qm@web86209.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hiya Mick, So far folks are doing random places. Rich and I will be at the Park Inn, Hyde Park. thanks, Arin On Sat, 4 Jul 2009, Mick Crook wrote: :Subject: Re: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary gig Travelodge? : :Hi Folks, : :Where's everyone heading? I haven't booked any thing yet..... : :Cheers, : :Mick : :--- On Thu, 30/4/09, M Holmes wrote: : :> From: M Holmes :> Subject: Re: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary gig Travelodge? :> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET :> Date: Thursday, 30 April, 2009, 11:48 AM :> Jill Strobridge writes: :> :> > That's exactly what's :> needed!???Travelodge are basic but there's :> nothing :> > hugely wrong with them :> :> HELLOOO??? Bar CLOSES at *ELEVEN* :> :> That's not like an amp that goes up to Eleven. :> :> FoFP :> :> -- :> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, :> registered in :> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. :> : : : : -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sun Jul 5 10:02:15 2009 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:02:15 +0000 Subject: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary gig Travelodge? Message-ID: Thanks Arin!! Mick --- On Sun, 5/7/09, Arin Komins wrote: > From: Arin Komins > Subject: Re: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary gig Travelodge? > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 1:47 AM > Hiya Mick, > > So far folks are doing random places.? Rich and I will > be at the > Park Inn, Hyde Park. > > thanks, > > Arin > > On Sat, 4 Jul 2009, Mick Crook wrote: > > :Subject: Re: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary gig? > Travelodge? > : > :Hi Folks, > : > :Where's everyone heading? I haven't booked any thing > yet..... > : > :Cheers, > : > :Mick > : > :--- On Thu, 30/4/09, M Holmes > wrote: > : > :> From: M Holmes > :> Subject: Re: Choosing hotel for 40th anniversary > gig? Travelodge? > :> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > :> Date: Thursday, 30 April, 2009, 11:48 AM > :> Jill Strobridge writes: > :> > :> > That's exactly what's > :> needed!???Travelodge are basic but there's > :> nothing > :> > hugely wrong with them > :> > :> HELLOOO??? Bar CLOSES at *ELEVEN* > :> > :> That's not like an amp that goes up to Eleven. > :> > :> FoFP > :> > :> -- > :> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, > :> registered in > :> Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > :> > : > : > :? ? ? > : > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins??? ??? > ??? ? ? > ?????? ? ? ? akomins at uchicago.edu > Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A??? > ??? ??? tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637??? > fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jul 6 11:29:15 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:29:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Deviants In-Reply-To: <17d80c610906272103n7743a888y9781676e9017e762@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, mike coleman wrote: > this is easy > 3 of the best psychedelic masterpieces in the world > So good I had to take Trev's japanese sealed copy of disposable to keep > safely until one day, with a prayer, he'll be able to listen to music again > Not having them is like having no ears and pretending you are missing > nothing I have only two-thirds of a pair of ears, as I lack _Disposable_, but I intend to remedy this soon. It needs doing because _III_ is one of the best psych albums, worldly, musical, jaded and funny as well as fuzzy and irreverent, that I own. And _Ptooff!_ is, well, what it is; proof that you could be as socially scathing as Zappa with rather less talent expended. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 6 19:30:12 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:30:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Back on the street, back on the street again! Message-ID: I was suddenly and unnexpectedly exiled, incommunicado for over a month- Back today and the hereon pending an outcome of events tomorrow, Tuesday. I shall be reading through a backlog of mail, attending to all direct correspondence that was cut off back in the last week of May. Totally out of my control, and I've had a hell of a time so I'm not apologizing. And I hope there's no bad news like the death of Michael Jackson or something, or the continued routine budgeting of a United States standing army. Nice if something's going on for a 40th anniversary. (I see there's a thread concverning that. But is this "antedating"? :) Was there a HW in 1969 that someone like me would recognize? Where's the wire spool recordings? :) If I have the funds in advance maybe I could even show up, a much needed vacation- and I've never been to England either, except driving through to get to the far-superior Scotland, or else flying over you to get to pathetically under-industrialized Ireland. Chlamydia is NOT A FLOWER! -Owen .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From albert at CELLSUM.COM Mon Jul 6 22:06:53 2009 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:06:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: Re: Joan Crawford (re BOC.com Band Picture) In-Reply-To: <20090701145030.JA00S.133004.imail@eastrmwml46> Message-ID: Joe actually wrote the part. Allen did a terrific job on it though. On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Jeff Thompson wrote: > -> >> I really like Allen's piano intro to "Joan Crawford." Of course I'm >> a sucker for over the top piano, just like Mike Garson's piano on >> "Aladdin Sane." > > Thought the piano intro was actually written by Al or Joe. Joe, > according to this? > > http://www.hotrails.co.uk/blueskybag/joebouchard/010608.htm > From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 7 00:23:02 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:23:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: The Deviants In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I only know of the Deviants by mention in some stuff I read about Hawkwind, never any description of their music, though I'd like to hear them. A used record store near me had the only LP I've ever seen-- interestingly it was on PROUD display on a shelf about 7 feet up, behind the register, alone together with a Pink Fairies record, each going for something like $30. I should've asked them to play it but for some reason didn't think to. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Jarrett < jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, mike coleman wrote: > > this is easy >> 3 of the best psychedelic masterpieces in the world >> So good I had to take Trev's japanese sealed copy of disposable to keep >> safely until one day, with a prayer, he'll be able to listen to music >> again >> Not having them is like having no ears and pretending you are missing >> nothing >> > > I have only two-thirds of a pair of ears, as I lack _Disposable_, > but I intend to remedy this soon. It needs doing because _III_ is one of the > best psych albums, worldly, musical, jaded and funny as well as fuzzy and > irreverent, that I own. And _Ptooff!_ is, well, what it is; proof that you > could be as socially scathing as Zappa with rather less talent expended. > Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Jul 7 05:08:36 2009 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:08:36 +0200 Subject: HW: what's happening.... Message-ID: Hej Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand. IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go or hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was in the band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society (new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), PreMEd, Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. scott http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD (soundboard recording of my bands latest space rock show......) From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Jul 7 12:27:29 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:27:29 +0200 Subject: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922D3E7F0F5@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: Hi Scott Here is the track list from one of the April shows: 09.04.2009, BOLTON, ALBERT HALLS, 115 minutes warriors / assault and battery / golden void / where are they now / reapers poem / angels of death / prometheus rising / death trap / poem / orgone accumulator / only dreaming / orgone accumulator / green machine / wraith / you'd better believe it / sentinel / magnu / brainbox pollution / whos gonna win the war / poem / damnation alley / right to decide / mirror of illusions / hassan i sahba / jam / hassan i sahba Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:09 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: what's happening.... Hej Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand. IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go or hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was in the band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society (new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), PreMEd, Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. scott http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD (soundboard recording of my bands latest space rock show......) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jul 7 12:45:37 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:45:37 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922D3E7F0F5@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: On 07 Jul 2009, at 04:08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... I saw a phone-camera-sourced YouTube clip of a performance (or part thereof) of "Mirror of Illusion", but I still think the _ET_ "Mask of Morning" remake is actually better. :) > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? Admittedly, no, but I'd be interested to hear any reports! Darned if I know how I'd be likely to get a copy within the next several years (at least unless more stuff starts getting sold as lossless downloads), but Alan has a demonstrated capacity to turn out some recordings worth waiting for .... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From itop57 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 7 19:45:49 2009 From: itop57 at GMAIL.COM (itop) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:45:49 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922D3E7F0F5@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: Hi Scott on Girlschools myspace it says they are playing in Germany that weekend so they wont be opening we will have to wait to find out who is i think it might be Arthur Brown. As for Alan Daveys new cd its very good its nice to hear Simon House playing again. Ian 2009/7/7 SHLL (Scott Heller) > Hej > > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The > 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand. > IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool > venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they > play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... > > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go or > hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was in the > band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society > (new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), PreMEd, > Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. > > scott > > http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD (soundboard recording of > my bands latest space rock show......) > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 8 03:57:01 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 02:57:01 -0500 Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" Message-ID: It's finally out..... the comprehensive works To name just one thing, the original art for the Astounding cover which was apparenty too delicious for the record cmpany to use Thanks Keith http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/095520173X?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwrockpopfas-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=095520173X From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Jul 8 04:16:05 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:16:05 -0400 Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907080057s692b1ce1g83bae021179caf04@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mike, hate to say this, but I got it for Xmas.... Maybe I should have said something... Iain -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 8:57 Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" It's finally out..... the comprehensive works To name just one thing, the original art for the Astounding cover which was apparenty too delicious for the record cmpany to use Thanks Keith http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/095520173X?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwrockpopfas-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=095520173X ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Jul 8 04:20:12 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:20:12 -0400 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Don't see the point in talking about it, Those that hate modern Hawkwind will slag it, those that love em will praise it.. Every discussion at the moment ends in a bitch fight.. I have a ticket, but not a hotel room, because I'm not stumping up money for a hotel until the lineup is confirmed.. bugger I just discussed it... Iain? -----Original Message----- From: itop To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 0:45 Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... Hi Scott on Girlschools myspace it says they are playing in Germany that weekend so they wont be opening we will have to wait to find out who is i think it might be Arthur Brown. As for Alan Daveys new cd its very good its nice to hear Simon House playing again. Ian 2009/7/7 SHLL (Scott Heller) > Hej > > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The > 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand. > IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool > venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they > play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... > > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go or > hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was in the > band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society > (new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), PreMEd, > Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. > > scott > > http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD (soundboard recording of > my bands latest space rock show......) > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 8 04:28:23 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:28:23 -0500 Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" In-Reply-To: <8CBCDBB7963E893-1040-377E@webmail-da15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Say it now say lots!!! I'm too busy hogging vinyl Now about getting these "wonderful" Atomhenge folks to include me on the list press wax and they will come.... On 7/8/09, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: > > Mike, > > hate to say this, but I got it for Xmas.... > > Maybe I should have said something... > > Iain > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 8:57 > Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" > > > > > > > > > > > It's finally out..... > the comprehensive works > To name just one thing, the original art for the Astounding cover which was > apparenty too delicious for the record cmpany to use > Thanks Keith > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/095520173X?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwrockpopfas-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=095520173X > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. > Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Jul 8 05:10:09 2009 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:10:09 +0200 Subject: HW:what's happening Message-ID: Hello Well, a few people are alive..Wow. that looked like a great set list for April and some new songs as well. As for August, we can for sure rule out that Lemmy will attend as motorhead are on tour in the USA at this time. I guess all those associated with the Hawklords- Nik, harvey, swindells, etc.. won't be... The later day Jerry Richards (Earthlab), Ron Tree- seem doubtful, but you never know. The Space Ritual Crew: nik, crimble, anderson, etc.. doubt they will be asked to be involved.. I guess the line up will be the current band playing a lot of old material and maybe Arthur or Simon as guests. I can't actually see how else would perform with Brock and them. They probably have to sign some legal contract before being allow to go on stage with brock so that he can have control of all the procedes without the mess of the Hawkestra... Huw, unless he is very sick will appear for sure, is my guess... hope he is sober... more thoughts?? I am excited anyway... scott From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 8 05:17:05 2009 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:17:05 +0000 Subject: HW:what's happening In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922D3E7F5C6@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: If you mean Simon House, I don't really see that happening to be honest. ________________________________ From: SHLL (Scott Heller) To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:10:09 AM Subject: Re: HW:what's happening Hello Well, a few people are alive..Wow. that looked like a great set list for April and some new songs as well. As for August, we can for sure rule out that Lemmy will attend as motorhead are on tour in the USA at this time. I guess all those associated with the Hawklords- Nik, harvey, swindells, etc.. won't be... The later day Jerry Richards (Earthlab), Ron Tree- seem doubtful, but you never know. The Space Ritual Crew: nik, crimble, anderson, etc.. doubt they will be asked to be involved.. I guess the line up will be the current band playing a lot of old material and maybe Arthur or Simon as guests. I can't actually see how else would perform with Brock and them. They probably have to sign some legal contract before being allow to go on stage with brock so that he can have control of all the procedes without the mess of the Hawkestra... Huw, unless he is very sick will appear for sure, is my guess... hope he is sober... more thoughts?? I am excited anyway... scott From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 8 05:31:27 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:31:27 -0500 Subject: HW:what's happening In-Reply-To: <125499.40655.qm@web26908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What's with all this personal attachment?? It's Hawkwind Maybe I better try to go to bed ps-Trev knows things On 7/8/09, Ian Abrahams wrote: > > If you mean Simon House, I don't really see that happening to be honest. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:10:09 AM > Subject: Re: HW:what's happening > > Hello > > Well, a few people are alive..Wow. that looked like a great set list for > April and some new songs as well. > > As for August, we can for sure rule out that Lemmy will attend as motorhead > are on tour in the USA at this time. > > I guess all those associated with the Hawklords- Nik, harvey, swindells, > etc.. won't be... > > The later day Jerry Richards (Earthlab), Ron Tree- seem doubtful, but you > never know. > > The Space Ritual Crew: nik, crimble, anderson, etc.. doubt they will be > asked to be involved.. > > I guess the line up will be the current band playing a lot of old material > and maybe Arthur or Simon as guests. I can't actually see how else would > perform with Brock and them. They probably have to sign some legal contract > before being allow to go on stage with brock so that he can have control of > all the procedes without the mess of the Hawkestra... > > Huw, unless he is very sick will appear for sure, is my guess... hope he is > sober... > > more thoughts?? I am excited anyway... > scott > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 8 05:38:39 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:38:39 -0500 Subject: HW:what's happening In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907080231padd5f40rc6b30df5d754ebd2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: but before I do I might like to hear of Kniveton turning up with Tim's fully restored synthis, and a red laser of course He's pretty busy these days though On 7/8/09, mike coleman wrote: > > What's with all this personal attachment?? > It's Hawkwind > Maybe I better try to go to bed > ps-Trev knows things > > On 7/8/09, Ian Abrahams wrote: >> >> If you mean Simon House, I don't really see that happening to be honest. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: SHLL (Scott Heller) >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:10:09 AM >> Subject: Re: HW:what's happening >> >> Hello >> >> Well, a few people are alive..Wow. that looked like a great set list for >> April and some new songs as well. >> >> As for August, we can for sure rule out that Lemmy will attend as >> motorhead are on tour in the USA at this time. >> >> I guess all those associated with the Hawklords- Nik, harvey, swindells, >> etc.. won't be... >> >> The later day Jerry Richards (Earthlab), Ron Tree- seem doubtful, but you >> never know. >> >> The Space Ritual Crew: nik, crimble, anderson, etc.. doubt they will be >> asked to be involved.. >> >> I guess the line up will be the current band playing a lot of old material >> and maybe Arthur or Simon as guests. I can't actually see how else would >> perform with Brock and them. They probably have to sign some legal contract >> before being allow to go on stage with brock so that he can have control of >> all the procedes without the mess of the Hawkestra... >> >> Huw, unless he is very sick will appear for sure, is my guess... hope he >> is sober... >> >> more thoughts?? I am excited anyway... >> scott >> > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 8 05:43:02 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:43:02 +0100 Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" In-Reply-To: iainferguson@AOL.COM's message of Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:16:05 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Jul 8 05:45:53 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 05:45:53 -0400 Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" In-Reply-To: <200907080943.n689h2OR028563@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Ohh Hahaha, Your the funny one today ;-) -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:43 Subject: Re: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: > Mike, > > hate to say this, but I got it for Xmas.... > > Maybe I should have said something... Like "THANK YOU Santa!"? -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Jul 8 08:44:15 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:44:15 +0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - what's happening In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Scott, sorry for the delay in responding to your note re: the roundup '81'. I appreciated your note. Your 100% correct about that type of southern rock being a 'dying breed'. The show you described sounded great and I'm assuming it took place over in Skandanavia? I agree that there aren't really many new bands that carry on with that tradition. Back in the mid 90's I was very close to moving down to Jacksonville Florida and starting a new band with Banner Thomas ( the original bassist for Molly Hatchet ), and possibly Artimus Pyle who requested to hear my material..That was the 'White Rhino' project. I still have the tracks somewhere. They were totaly southern, with the duel leads, boogie woogie piano buried beneath slide, and growly vocals...peace, Mike Burro > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 05:00:02 -0400 > From: LISTSERV at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: BOC-L Digest - 7 Jul 2009 to 8 Jul 2009 (#2009-186) > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > There are 8 messages totalling 388 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. HW: what's happening.... (4) > 2. what's happening.... > 3. HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" (3) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:08:36 +0200 > From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" > Subject: HW: what's happening.... > > Hej > > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The = > 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand= > . IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool v= > enue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they= > play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... > > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go or = > hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was in the= > band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society (= > new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), PreMEd, Gun= > slinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. > > scott > > http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD (soundboard recording of = > my bands latest space rock show......) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:27:29 +0200 > From: "bernhard.pospiech" > Subject: Re: what's happening.... > > Hi Scott > > Here is the track list from one of the April shows: > > 09.04.2009, BOLTON, ALBERT HALLS, 115 minutes > warriors / assault and battery / golden void / where are they now / reapers > poem / angels of death / prometheus rising / death trap / poem / orgone > accumulator / only dreaming / orgone accumulator / green machine / wraith / > you'd better believe it / sentinel / magnu / brainbox pollution / whos gonna > win the war / poem / damnation alley / right to decide / mirror of illusions > / hassan i sahba / jam / hassan i sahba > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:09 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: HW: what's happening.... > > Hej > > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The > 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand. > IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool > venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they > play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... > > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go or > hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was in the > band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society > (new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), PreMEd, > Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. > > scott > > http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD (soundboard recording of > my bands latest space rock show......) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:45:37 -0500 > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > > On 07 Jul 2009, at 04:08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... > > I saw a phone-camera-sourced YouTube clip of a performance (or part > thereof) of "Mirror of Illusion", but I still think the _ET_ "Mask of > Morning" remake is actually better. :) > > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > > Admittedly, no, but I'd be interested to hear any reports! Darned if > I know how I'd be likely to get a copy within the next several years > (at least unless more stuff starts getting sold as lossless > downloads), but Alan has a demonstrated capacity to turn out some > recordings worth waiting for .... :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 00:45:49 +0100 > From: itop > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > > Hi Scott on Girlschools myspace it says they are playing in Germany that > weekend so they wont be opening we will have to wait to find out who is i > think it might be Arthur Brown. As for Alan Daveys new cd its very good its > nice to hear Simon House playing again. > > Ian > > 2009/7/7 SHLL (Scott Heller) > > > Hej > > > > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The > > 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand. > > IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool > > venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they > > play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... > > > > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go or > > hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was in the > > band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society > > (new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), PreMEd, > > Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. > > > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. > > > > scott > > > > http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD (soundboard recording of > > my bands latest space rock show......) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 02:57:01 -0500 > From: mike coleman > Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" > > It's finally out..... > the comprehensive works > To name just one thing, the original art for the Astounding cover which was > apparenty too delicious for the record cmpany to use > Thanks Keith > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/095520173X?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwrockpopfas-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=095520173X > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:16:05 -0400 > From: iainferguson at AOL.COM > Subject: Re: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" > > Mike, > > hate to say this, but I got it for Xmas.... > > Maybe I should have said something... > > Iain > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 8:57 > Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" > > > > > > > > > > > It's finally out..... > the comprehensive works > To name just one thing, the original art for the Astounding cover which was > apparenty too delicious for the record cmpany to use > Thanks Keith > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/095520173X?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwrockpopfas-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=095520173X > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 04:20:12 -0400 > From: iainferguson at AOL.COM > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > > Don't see the point in talking about it, > > Those that hate modern Hawkwind will slag it, those that love em will praise it.. > > Every discussion at the moment ends in a bitch fight.. > > I have a ticket, but not a hotel room, because I'm not stumping up money for a hotel until the lineup is confirmed.. > > bugger I just discussed it... > > Iain? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: itop > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 0:45 > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Scott on Girlschools myspace it says they are playing in Germany that > weekend so they wont be opening we will have to wait to find out who is i > think it might be Arthur Brown. As for Alan Daveys new cd its very good its > nice to hear Simon House playing again. > > Ian > > 2009/7/7 SHLL (Scott Heller) > > > Hej > > > > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The > > 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand. > > IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool > > venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they > > play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... > > > > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go or > > hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was in the > > band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society > > (new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), PreMEd, > > Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. > > > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. > > > > scott > > > > http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD (soundboard recording of > > my bands latest space rock show......) > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 03:28:23 -0500 > From: mike coleman > Subject: Re: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" > > Say it now > say lots!!! > I'm too busy hogging vinyl > Now about getting these "wonderful" Atomhenge folks to include me on the > list > press wax and they will come.... > > > On 7/8/09, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > hate to say this, but I got it for Xmas.... > > > > Maybe I should have said something... > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mike coleman > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 8:57 > > Subject: HW Barney Bubbles "Reasons To Be Cheerful" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's finally out..... > > the comprehensive works > > To name just one thing, the original art for the Astounding cover which was > > apparenty too delicious for the record cmpany to use > > Thanks Keith > > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/095520173X?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwrockpopfas-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=095520173X > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. > > Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of BOC-L Digest - 7 Jul 2009 to 8 Jul 2009 (#2009-186) > ********************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 8 08:59:02 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:59:02 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 07 Jul 2009, at 18:45 , itop wrote: > As for Alan Daveys new cd its very good Anyone have any more extensive details or comments on this? :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 8 17:30:31 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:30:31 +0000 Subject: HW: what's happening.... Message-ID: The Hawklords were very good indeed at SRS; the line-up was Nik, Alan, Ron, Jerry, Alf Hardy, Josh Dreamspirit and Mr Bublik. SRS was the best of the Sonic Rocks so far by a long way, and I say that as the person responsible for Sonic Rock 2005; massive kudos to Marty and his team for such an amazing event! The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to problems with the test copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been assured that it will be released on August 17th. Swedish radio's channel P3 dedicated 45 minutes to the album and an interview on Thursday 2nd July. --- On Tue, 7/7/09, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW: what's happening.... > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009, 10:08 AM > Hej > > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at > the moment. The 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. > Girlschool opening I understand. IT will be quite > disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool > venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april > gigs? What did they play? I heard Mirror of Illusion > mentioned.... > > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock > Solstice? Anyone go or hear about the gig, what they played, > if they were any good, who was in the band,e tc.... Looks > like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society (new cd > is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), > PreMEd, Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space > rock),etc.. > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. > > scott > > http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD? > (soundboard recording of my bands latest space rock > show......) > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 8 17:54:23 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:54:23 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <60723.80315.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 08 Jul 2009, at 16:30, Colin Allen wrote: > The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to problems with the > test copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been > assured that it will be released on August 17th. Ooooo, new Litmus! Now I only need to figure out how to get a copy sometime in the course of the next few years. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 8 18:27:07 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:27:07 -0400 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <60723.80315.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I agree that they were superb that night. As a Hawkwind fan (that is understating) I thoroughly enjoyed their energy and vibrancy.? I can't call them the Hawklords though. No matter how good they are, if they continue with that name, I will have to, and will, refer to them as "The So-Called Hawklords". It is a stolen name. "Clones of TOSH" would be better. Great music, but I would never wear a tee shirt saying "I saw the HAWKLORDS tonight" because I didn't, and never will. Steve. -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:30 Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... The Hawklords were very good indeed at SRS; the line-up was Nik, Alan, Ron, Jerry, Alf Hardy, Josh Dreamspirit and Mr Bublik. SRS was the best of the Sonic Rocks so far by a long way, and I say that as the person responsible for Sonic Rock 2005; massive kudos to Marty and his team for such an amazing event! The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to problems with the test copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been assured that it will be released on August 17th. Swedish radio's channel P3 dedicated 45 minutes to the album and an interview on Thursday 2nd July. --- On Tue, 7/7/09, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW: what's happening.... > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009, 10:08 AM > Hej > > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at > the moment. The 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. > Girlschool opening I understand. IT will be quite > disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool > venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april > gigs? What did they play? I heard Mirror of Illusion > mentioned.... > > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock > Solstice? Anyone go or hear about the gig, what they played, > if they were any good, who was in the band,e tc.... Looks > like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society (new cd > is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), > PreMEd, Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space > rock),etc.. > > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. > > scott > > http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD? > (soundboard recording of my bands latest space rock > show......) > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 8 18:32:31 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:32:31 -0400 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <029815FD-85A6-4662-8C7D-7C2C9E24C92C@carlaz.com> Message-ID: I could send my cat over with a copy if things are that bad there. The poor fella's got a bad leg, but if you really can't get any music, as long as I can supply him with food for the journey, he would be happy to help a fellow space rocker. But I wouldn't be happy to let him go :-) Where do you live Carl, and why is it so nearly impossible for you to get CD's in the post?? I'm sure I could send it to you, and if I could........ Steve. Ooooo, new Litmus! Now I only need to figure out how to get a copy sometime in the course of the next few years. :)? ? Cheers,? Carl? -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:54 Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... On 08 Jul 2009, at 16:30, Colin Allen wrote:? > The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to problems with the > test copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been > assured that it will be released on August 17th.? ? ? Ooooo, new Litmus! Now I only need to figure out how to get a copy sometime in the course of the next few years. :)? ? Cheers,? Carl? ? --? Carl Edlund Anderson? http://www.carlaz.com/? ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 8 18:29:35 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:29:35 -0500 Subject: Mike Nesmith offers thoughts about his late friend Douglas Adams ( Hitchhikers Guide ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah, thanks for that! Mike Nesmith rules. I've long maintained a twisted plan to do a space-rock-blanga version of "Daily Nightly", but for good or for ill haven't ever gotten best slapping down a few bars of initial essays at it. (I keep thinking about taking "Circle Sky", too -- which would turn into space-rock on its own easily enough -- but instead redoing it with the slower punctuated-power- chord-sledgehammer vibe of, say, Monster Magnet's "Dopes to Infinity" :)). Cheers, Carl On 29 Jun 2009, at 11:02, Burro Mike wrote: > I was surprised to find out that during the last 10 years of his > life, Douglas Adams, the author of 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the > Galaxy' and it's follow-ups, was a very close friend of Mike > Nesmith ( the former Monkee ). Below is a fascinating site about > Adams and thoughts from Mike and many others...Cheers! > > http://movies.ign.com/articles/607/607319p5.html -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 8 18:31:34 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:31:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Alan Davey interview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 29 Jun 2009, at 06:43, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> On 15 Jun 2009, at 10:22 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >>> It's a Viking drug thing: we wouldn't understand :-) >> ?La aspiradora de los dinosaurios me va a llevar a la casa! > > I have to admit to some scepticism here :-) Not just about the > assertion itself, but I don't think that's the sort of vacuum Mr > Wyndorf meant. True, though I thought it might actually be stranger, and therefore no bad thing. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From busterpepper at MIDWAYNET.NET Thu Jul 9 00:58:11 2009 From: busterpepper at MIDWAYNET.NET (Lost Johnny) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 00:58:11 -0400 Subject: Hawklords t-shirts, Herne Bay dvd and cd Message-ID: Colin ,do you know if there were any Hawklords t-shirts ,Herne Bay dvd's or cd's sold at the show ? I saw Dave Roberts somewhere say that they were to soon be sold on-line too? Hear anything about that yet ? On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:30:31 +0000, Colin Allen wrote: >The Hawklords were very good indeed at SRS; the line-up was Nik, Alan, Ron, Jerry, Alf Hardy, Josh Dreamspirit and Mr Bublik. SRS was the best of the Sonic Rocks so far by a long way, and I say that as the person responsible for Sonic Rock 2005; massive kudos to Marty and his team for such an amazing event! > >The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to problems with the test copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been assured that it will be released on August 17th. Swedish radio's channel P3 dedicated 45 minutes to the album and an interview on Thursday 2nd July. > >--- On Tue, 7/7/09, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > >> From: SHLL (Scott Heller) >> Subject: HW: what's happening.... >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009, 10:08 AM >> Hej >> >> Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at >> the moment. The 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. >> Girlschool opening I understand. IT will be quite >> disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool >> venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april >> gigs? What did they play? I heard Mirror of Illusion >> mentioned.... >> >> Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock >> Solstice? Anyone go or hear about the gig, what they played, >> if they were any good, who was in the band,e tc.... Looks >> like a cool space rock weekend with earthing society (new cd >> is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), >> PreMEd, Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space >> rock),etc.. >> >> Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? >> >> Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. >> >> scott >> >> http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD >> (soundboard recording of my bands latest space rock >> show......) >> From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 9 03:57:12 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 07:57:12 +0000 Subject: Hawklords t-shirts, Herne Bay dvd and cd Message-ID: DVDs, CDs and Ts were available, as was a superb double CD of Space Ritual live at the 100 Club in 2007; the latter is quite stunning and has a tremendous version of MOTU. --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Lost Johnny wrote: > From: Lost Johnny > Subject: Hawklords t-shirts, Herne Bay dvd and cd > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 5:58 AM > Colin ,do you know if there were any > Hawklords t-shirts ,Herne Bay dvd's or > cd's sold at the show ? I saw Dave Roberts somewhere say > that they were to > soon be sold on-line too????Hear anything > about that yet ?? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ??? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ???On > Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:30:31 +0000, Colin Allen > wrote: > > >The Hawklords were very good indeed at SRS; the line-up > was Nik, Alan, Ron, > Jerry, Alf Hardy, Josh Dreamspirit and Mr Bublik. SRS was > the best of the > Sonic Rocks so far by a long way, and I say that as the > person responsible > for Sonic Rock 2005; massive kudos to Marty and his team > for such an amazing > event! > > > >The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to > problems with the test > copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been > assured that it > will be released on August 17th. Swedish radio's channel P3 > dedicated 45 > minutes to the album and an interview on Thursday 2nd > July. > > > >--- On Tue, 7/7/09, SHLL (Scott Heller) > wrote: > > > >> From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > >> Subject: HW: what's happening.... > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >> Date: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009, 10:08 AM > >> Hej > >> > >> Seems that not much discussion of the band is > happening at > >> the moment. The 40th anniversary show is only 7 > weeks away. > >> Girlschool opening I understand. IT will be quite > >> disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a > cool > >> venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the > april > >> gigs? What did they play? I heard Mirror of > Illusion > >> mentioned.... > >> > >> Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic > Rock > >> Solstice? Anyone go or hear about the gig, what > they played, > >> if they were any good, who was in the band,e > tc.... Looks > >> like a cool space rock weekend with earthing > society (new cd > >> is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed > now), > >> PreMEd, Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space > >> rock),etc.. > >> > >> Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > >> > >> Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion > going.. > >> > >> scott > >> > >> http://www.archive.org/details/OSC2009-06-26.SBD > >> (soundboard recording of my bands latest space > rock > >> show......) > >> > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Jul 9 09:05:45 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:05:45 +0000 Subject: complete information about two upcoming shows Message-ID: complete information about our two upcoming shows below: July 24th: Mike Burro & Friends August 14th: Mike with Stewkey of NAZZ http://www.prlog.org/10276498.html _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that?s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jul 9 11:47:40 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:47:40 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <8CBCE331E0A53D9-1084-1F0A@FWM-D29.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 08 Jul 2009, at 17:32, stevepxr5 at AOL.COM wrote: > Where do you live Carl, and why is it so nearly impossible for you > to get CD's in the post?? I'm sure I could send it to you, and if I > could........ I live in Colombia, South America. :) That's not nearly so dramatic sounding as TV and Hollywood would paint it (though it was probably even more dramatic than that about 15 years ago), but there is no national postal system, digital media get slapped with very high import taxes (not books, though), and my house actually has no official postal address. That said, books and letters sent to my mum- in-law's flat (which does have an address :)) from abroad have a very good record of actually arriving, but CDs and DVDs are scarcely worth the risk vs. the expense. (Digital media are more likely to go AWOL than English-language printed matter! ;) On the other hand, I have perfectly fine high-speed Internet that may actually be more reliable than the service I had in the UK. (As usual in the developing world, when the new tech starts to arrive, it arrives as _new_ tech, with no legacy systems to work around or on top of, and so it actually tends to work surprisingly well.) Therefore, I look forward more than ever to the day when buying lossless downloads are the norm. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 9 13:53:28 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:53:28 -0400 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <4A1954A0-8747-42D5-AAC0-C450A0C6C6AF@carlaz.com> Message-ID: No national postal service, but high speed Internet... Reminds me of when I was in Mumbai. The part of the city near the bay... well, let's just say that you can smell the lack of sanitation. As we were driving to the hotel, we saw everywhere men women and children digging in that red clay they have for soil... I asked our host what all the digging was about. He said, "They're laying fiber optic cable." So I jokingly asked him "Wouldn't it make more sense to lay some sewer lines?" He said, "The fiber optic cable will pay for the sewer lines." Steve On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 08 Jul 2009, at 17:32, stevepxr5 at AOL.COM wrote: >> >> Where do you live Carl, and why is it so nearly impossible for you to get >> CD's in the post?? I'm sure I could send it to you, and if I could........ > > > I live in Colombia, South America. :) ?That's not nearly so dramatic > sounding as TV and Hollywood would paint it (though it was probably even > more dramatic than that about 15 years ago), but there is no national postal > system, digital media get slapped with very high import taxes (not books, > though), and my house actually has no official postal address. ?That said, > books and letters sent to my mum-in-law's flat (which does have an address > :)) from abroad have a very good record of actually arriving, but CDs and > DVDs are scarcely worth the risk vs. the expense. ?(Digital media are more > likely to go AWOL than English-language printed matter! ;) > > On the other hand, I have perfectly fine high-speed Internet that may > actually be more reliable than the service I had in the UK. ?(As usual in > the developing world, when the new tech starts to arrive, it arrives as > _new_ tech, with no legacy systems to work around or on top of, and so it > actually tends to work surprisingly well.) ?Therefore, I look forward more > than ever to the day when buying lossless downloads are the norm. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 9 14:06:25 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:06:25 +0000 Subject: HW: what's happening.... Message-ID: Carl, I am sure that I can find a way to get lossless downloads of Aurora to you via FTP. Colin Manager - Litmus --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 4:47 PM > On 08 Jul 2009, at 17:32, stevepxr5 at AOL.COM > wrote: > > Where do you live Carl, and why is it so nearly > impossible for you to get CD's in the post?? I'm sure I > could send it to you, and if I could........ > > > I live in Colombia, South America. :)? That's not > nearly so dramatic sounding as TV and Hollywood would paint > it (though it was probably even more dramatic than that > about 15 years ago), but there is no national postal system, > digital media get slapped with very high import taxes (not > books, though), and my house actually has no official postal > address.? That said, books and letters sent to my > mum-in-law's flat (which does have an address :)) from > abroad have a very good record of actually arriving, but CDs > and DVDs are scarcely worth the risk vs. the expense.? > (Digital media are more likely to go AWOL than > English-language printed matter! ;) > > On the other hand, I have perfectly fine high-speed > Internet that may actually be more reliable than the service > I had in the UK.? (As usual in the developing world, > when the new tech starts to arrive, it arrives as _new_ > tech, with no legacy systems to work around or on top of, > and so it actually tends to work surprisingly well.)? > Therefore, I look forward more than ever to the day when > buying lossless downloads are the norm. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jul 9 14:51:34 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:51:34 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <345686.567.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 09 Jul 2009, at 13:06, Colin Allen wrote: > I am sure that I can find a way to get lossless downloads of Aurora > to you via FTP. Ah, _now_ we're talking! :) Well, I look forward to the release even more, knowing that there's a chance of getting it. Yes, hopefully we can come to some arrangement! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jul 9 14:59:08 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:59:08 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <919e368d0907091053m47ed2abegdc57dee93737cea4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Something like that! :) We have sewers as well, round my parts, though. :) Cheers, Carl On 09 Jul 2009, at 12:53, Steve Swann wrote: > No national postal service, but high speed Internet... > Reminds me of when I was in Mumbai. The part of the city near the > bay... well, let's just say that you can smell the lack of sanitation. > As we were driving to the hotel, we saw everywhere men women and > children digging in that red clay they have for soil... I asked our > host what all the digging was about. He said, "They're laying fiber > optic cable." So I jokingly asked him "Wouldn't it make more sense to > lay some sewer lines?" He said, "The fiber optic cable will pay for > the sewer lines." -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Thu Jul 9 20:14:08 2009 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:14:08 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind at stonehenge 76? Message-ID: I'm surprised to read in the liner notes for the new Atomehenge QS&C that Brock, Calvert, Griffin and Hayles played stonehenge in 1976 Is this really true?! Its specifically mentioned that Bainbridge DIDN'T play. So who did? Rudolph? I don't see this gig listed on the starfarer site, so am wondering if it really happened, or its crossed wires Anyone? VH -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Jul 10 11:04:49 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:04:49 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind at stonehenge 76? In-Reply-To: <20090710001408.72573326701@ws1-8.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Hi there It is not 100% confirmed but I also remeber that I saw an article in a magazine that the Hawks played Stonehenge 21.06.1976 (for the 1st time) I think the lineup was as follows: BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Visionary Head Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:14 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Hawkwind at stonehenge 76? I'm surprised to read in the liner notes for the new Atomehenge QS&C that Brock, Calvert, Griffin and Hayles played stonehenge in 1976 Is this really true?! Its specifically mentioned that Bainbridge DIDN'T play. So who did? Rudolph? I don't see this gig listed on the starfarer site, so am wondering if it really happened, or its crossed wires Anyone? VH -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 10 11:53:17 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:53:17 +0100 Subject: Fame(?) at last Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Jul 10 12:14:11 2009 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:14:11 -0500 Subject: Fame(?) at last In-Reply-To: <200907101553.n6AFrHIT027662@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Fame(?) at last : :"The DNA Cowboys" (still freely offered as Hawkwind lyrics...) now :at The Human Genre Project: : :http://www.boingboing.net/2009/07/08/human-genre-project.html It's up on Ken MacLeod's blog, too :-) (from last week.) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jul 10 12:51:13 2009 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:51:13 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind at stonehenge 76? Message-ID: There is a bit of the festival's history at this site..... http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/henge-history.html It doesn't mention them playing in 76 but it does 75. Cheers, Mick --- On Fri, 10/7/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: Hawkwind at stonehenge 76? > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 4:04 PM > Hi there > > It is not 100% confirmed but I also remeber that I saw an > article in a > magazine > that the Hawks played Stonehenge 21.06.1976 (for the 1st > time) > > I think the lineup was as follows: > > BR/RU/TU/PO/CA/KI/HO > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Visionary Head > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 2:14 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Hawkwind at stonehenge 76? > > I'm surprised to read in the liner notes for the new > Atomehenge QS&C that > Brock, Calvert, Griffin and Hayles played stonehenge in > 1976 Is this really > true?! > Its specifically mentioned that Bainbridge DIDN'T play. So > who did? > Rudolph? > I don't see this gig listed on the starfarer site, so am > wondering if it > really happened, or its crossed wires > > Anyone? > > VH > > -- > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com > From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jul 11 14:01:36 2009 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Mr H) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:01:36 -0400 Subject: Hw: HW on your radio Message-ID: On Sunday 12 July at 20.00 GMT, the weekly Rock Profiles show on Get Ready To Rock Radio will be devoted to Hawkwind. That's right, a whole hour of HW streaming to the entire universe on GRTR radio - http://www.getreadytorockradio.com/ Apparently, you can also listen via iTunes, but that's a bit too much for me. PS - I'm presenting it. SAH From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 13 03:55:10 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:55:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I Message-ID: Someone said here it was a good movie, a little short of a year ago. Then I asked someone else about it, one of the types of people who're always getting told which intellectual movies to watch by and he said "no, no it's no big deal it's come up somehow recently and everyone's watching it"-- our highly discriminating circles who think only of high art. Then I decided to watch it and thought it was OK! Whoever recommends that too have you seen all these(?): "Return of the Living Dead", "Repo Man", "Forbidden Planet", or "The General" (Buster Keaton's). Some I have known to be discredulous of Forbidden Planet. Any one of these should be enjoyable for you to view at the exact moment you are reading this. Only the other day hadn't you just walked out of a movie? Chances are alot of the other people envied your comparitive defiance to their meek "polite" behavior. They wouln't have wanted to insult the idea of going to sit through really bad/audience insulting shite. .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From steve.bishop at DB.COM Mon Jul 13 04:14:14 2009 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:14:14 +0100 Subject: ok - what's this pls ?! Message-ID: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001G4ANB0/ref=pe_3511_16122781_snp_dp --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Jul 13 04:32:50 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:32:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Owen, don't think it was me but Withnail and I is a fantastic film, excluding all the hype around it, it is just the lovely moment of melancholy at the ending of the 60's.. fantastic stuff.. I love Repo man as well - There's two versions, 1 with the swear words, and one which is the TV version which is much funnier as they try to cover the swear words with the likes of? "Melon Farmer", and "Bad Melon Farmer" Iain -----Original Message----- From: Owen O'Neill To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 8:55 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I Someone said here it was a good movie, a little short of a year ago. Then I asked someone else about it, one of the types of people who're always getting told which intellectual movies to watch by and he said "no, no it's no big deal it's come up somehow recently and everyone's watching it"-- our highly discriminating circles who think only of high art. Then I decided to watch it and thought it was OK! Whoever recommends that too have you seen all these(?): "Return of the Living Dead", "Repo Man", "Forbidden Planet", or "The General" (Buster Keaton's). Some I have known to be discredulous of Forbidden Planet. Any one of these should be enjoyable for you to view at the exact moment you are reading this. Only the other day hadn't you just walked out of a movie? Chances are alot of the other people envied your comparitive defiance to their meek "polite" behavior. They=2 0wouln't have wanted to insult the idea of going to sit through really bad/audience insulting shite. .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 13 05:26:18 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:26:18 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <345686.567.qm@web23202.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Carl, why not order the new Trev and Kev album instead? http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html We deliver worldwide...no probs It's much better than the Litmus one of course. Acoustic Space is really in these days. I really think that the days of "proper" loud electric bands are over now and I'm sure that everyone on this list agrees with me. Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:06 PM To: Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > Carl, > > I am sure that I can find a way to get lossless downloads of Aurora to you via FTP. > > Colin > Manager - Litmus > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson >> Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 4:47 PM >> On 08 Jul 2009, at 17:32, stevepxr5 at AOL.COM >> wrote: >> > Where do you live Carl, and why is it so nearly >> impossible for you to get CD's in the post?? I'm sure I >> could send it to you, and if I could........ >> >> >> I live in Colombia, South America. :) That's not >> nearly so dramatic sounding as TV and Hollywood would paint >> it (though it was probably even more dramatic than that >> about 15 years ago), but there is no national postal system, >> digital media get slapped with very high import taxes (not >> books, though), and my house actually has no official postal >> address. That said, books and letters sent to my >> mum-in-law's flat (which does have an address :)) from >> abroad have a very good record of actually arriving, but CDs >> and DVDs are scarcely worth the risk vs. the expense. >> (Digital media are more likely to go AWOL than >> English-language printed matter! ;) >> >> On the other hand, I have perfectly fine high-speed >> Internet that may actually be more reliable than the service >> I had in the UK. (As usual in the developing world, >> when the new tech starts to arrive, it arrives as _new_ >> tech, with no legacy systems to work around or on top of, >> and so it actually tends to work surprisingly well.) >> Therefore, I look forward more than ever to the day when >> buying lossless downloads are the norm. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 13 05:40:16 2009 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:40:16 +0100 Subject: ok - what's this pls ?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's one of the Hawkwind Direct DVD's I suspect http://www.hawkwinddirect.com/ Steve On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Steve Bishop wrote: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001G4ANB0/ref=pe_3511_16122781_snp_dp > > --- > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you > are > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > strictly > forbidden. > > Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for > additional > EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree New Charlie Yahoo discussion group available to join here http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/itsinevitable/?yguid=215509111 to discuss the New Charlie CD Kitchens of Distinction OUT NOW(and anything else Charlie) Terry Thomas Podcast http://www.voiceprintwebradio.com/podcasts/terrythomas_interview01.xml From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 13 06:08:06 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:08:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I In-Reply-To: <8CBD1ABA4728A5A-E1C-FFD@WEBMAIL-MB19.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I didn't know about the TV version. The first time I actually noticed how vulgar and boorish almost ALL the dialogue in that movie was was when I played it for my father, which for one thing I did because I noticed he really liked 2 other characters played by Harry Dean Stanton, one of them of course the android in Alien. And just think, about the same year Harry Stanton was in repo man he was honored with top billing in the credits for Red Dawn, just for being in a 30 second shot. John Wayne was a fag! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:32 AM, wrote: > Owen, > > don't think it was me but Withnail and I is a fantastic film, excluding all > the hype around it, it is just the lovely moment of melancholy at the ending > of the 60's.. fantastic stuff.. > > > > I love Repo man as well - There's two versions, 1 with the swear words, and > one which is the TV version which is much funnier as they try to cover the > swear words with the likes of "Melon Farmer", and "Bad Melon Farmer" > > Iain > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Owen O'Neill > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 8:55 > Subject: OFF: Withnail & I > > > > > > > > > > > Someone said here it was a good movie, a little short of a year ago. Then I > asked someone else about it, one of the types of people who're always > getting told which intellectual movies to watch by and he said "no, no it's > no big deal it's come up somehow recently and everyone's watching it"-- our > highly discriminating circles who think only of high art. Then I decided > to > watch it and thought it was OK! Whoever recommends that too have you seen > all these(?): "Return of the Living Dead", "Repo Man", "Forbidden Planet", > or "The General" (Buster Keaton's). Some I have known to be discredulous > of > Forbidden Planet. Any one of these should be enjoyable for you to view at > the exact moment you are reading this. Only the other day hadn't you just > walked out of a movie? Chances are alot of the other people envied your > comparitive defiance to their meek "polite" behavior. They=2 > 0wouln't have > wanted to insult the idea of going to sit through really bad/audience > insulting shite. > > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. > Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jul 13 07:54:50 2009 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:54:50 -0500 Subject: ok - what's this pls ?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Steve Bishop wrote: :Subject: ok - what's this pls ?! : :http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001G4ANB0/ref=pe_3511_16122781_snp_dp See the detail for this release here: http://www.hawkwinddirect.com/ It's a voiceprint release. Details are also here: http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/web/Release/HAWKVP48DVD/ Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jul 13 10:55:28 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:55:28 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13 Jul 2009, at 04:26, trev wrote: > We deliver worldwide...no probs It's not the sending, it's the arriving .... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jul 13 10:58:16 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:58:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13 Jul 2009, at 02:55, Owen O'Neill wrote: > Someone said here it was a good movie, a little short of a year > ago. Then I > asked someone else about it, one of the types of people who're always > getting told which intellectual movies to watch by and he said "no, > no it's > no big deal it's come up somehow recently and everyone's watching > it"-- our > highly discriminating circles who think only of high art. Then I > decided to > watch it and thought it was OK! Indeed it is. But "come up somehow recently"? Surely Withnail & I has been a cult film staple virtually since its initial release in the late '80s? (Though it's stature especially outside of Britain was doubtless aided, as for most cult films, by the advent of VHS and then DVD releases.) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 13 13:15:00 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:15:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I In-Reply-To: <7EFF3A16-0DEC-4E99-930D-101BA6BC8729@carlaz.com> Message-ID: It's not as well known a movie as one may assume. 99.9% of movies which are crap I would never talk about. I'm sick of the very idea of moving pictures again just writing this new message. You see I am just beginning in the undergoing of Dianetics processing and anyone I am able to communicate with must bear with the apparent bizarre memory recollection patterns which those familliar know that they're conducive with dianetics science. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 13 Jul 2009, at 02:55, Owen O'Neill wrote: > >> Someone said here it was a good movie, a little short of a year ago. Then >> I >> asked someone else about it, one of the types of people who're always >> getting told which intellectual movies to watch by and he said "no, no >> it's >> no big deal it's come up somehow recently and everyone's watching it"-- >> our >> highly discriminating circles who think only of high art. Then I decided >> to >> watch it and thought it was OK! >> > > > Indeed it is. But "come up somehow recently"? Surely Withnail & I has > been a cult film staple virtually since its initial release in the late > '80s? (Though it's stature especially outside of Britain was doubtless > aided, as for most cult films, by the advent of VHS and then DVD releases.) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 13 13:16:33 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:16:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Owen O'Neill wrote: > It's not as well known a movie as one may assume. 99.9% of movies which are > crap ^^taht only meaning that I think 999 out of every 1000 movies I've seen are crap From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jul 13 13:43:10 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:43:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13 Jul 2009, at 12:15, Owen O'Neill wrote: > It's not as well known a movie as one may assume. Though as it was placed into the top half of the Channel 4 "100 Greatest Films" list a little while back, I think one may assume with modest safety that it is not entirely unknown. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jul 13 16:50:46 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:50:46 +0000 Subject: HW: what's happening.... Message-ID: Yes, I believe that it makes a much better beermat! --- On Mon, 13/7/09, trev wrote: From: trev Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 10:26 AM Hi Carl, why not order the new Trev and Kev album instead?? http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html We deliver worldwide...no probs It's much better than the Litmus one of course. Acoustic Space is really in these days. I really think that the days of "proper" loud electric bands are over now and I'm sure that everyone on this list agrees with me. Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:06 PM To: Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > Carl, > > I am sure that I can find a way to get lossless downloads of Aurora to you via FTP. > > Colin > Manager - Litmus > > --- On Thu, 9/7/09, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson >> Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 4:47 PM >> On 08 Jul 2009, at 17:32, stevepxr5 at AOL.COM >> wrote: >> > Where do you live Carl, and why is it so nearly >> impossible for you to get CD's in the post?? I'm sure I >> could send it to you, and if I could........ >> >> >> I live in Colombia, South America. :) That's not >> nearly so dramatic sounding as TV and Hollywood would paint >> it (though it was probably even more dramatic than that >> about 15 years ago), but there is no national postal system, >> digital media get slapped with very high import taxes (not >> books, though), and my house actually has no official postal >> address. That said, books and letters sent to my >> mum-in-law's flat (which does have an address :)) from >> abroad have a very good record of actually arriving, but CDs >> and DVDs are scarcely worth the risk vs. the expense. >> (Digital media are more likely to go AWOL than >> English-language printed matter! ;) >> >> On the other hand, I have perfectly fine high-speed >> Internet that may actually be more reliable than the service >> I had in the UK. (As usual in the developing world, >> when the new tech starts to arrive, it arrives as _new_ >> tech, with no legacy systems to work around or on top of, >> and so it actually tends to work surprisingly well.) >> Therefore, I look forward more than ever to the day when >> buying lossless downloads are the norm. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 14 01:36:00 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:36:00 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening....(To Trev?)(and some guy) Message-ID: On 7/13/09, Colin Allen wrote: > > Yes, I believe that it makes a much better beermat! and it doesn't stop there anyone doubting the staying power of the now legendary archival quality taiyo yuden stock, just simply could not do better than to ask Trev for a promo and a few quid compensation for time taken to analyze the stunning playback of these babes......I mean it played totally glitch free all the way through on the first try......... Then, if you are able to focus your attention away from the dazzling japanese display of workmanship, you get to the intense subversion happening underneath.... here we witness Trev and (some guy) taking the piss in many directions......testosterone aplenty.....(well, the other guy's a bit squeaky but Trev covers it) He's attempting to single handedly destroy the space rock genre, annoy Dave Brock for not having them at the Hawkfest, turn Turner fuming to the point that he is forced back into ICU to pick up the broken shards, and if that isn't proof of Trev's (and some guy's) big balls, it is further guaranteed to make Mike Coleman (me) squirm trying to review it a must have for it's guts alone!!! and remember, the outer plastic sleeve makes a beermat, so you really get 2 beermats From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Tue Jul 14 04:45:31 2009 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:45:31 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JULY 14, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOW: AURAL INNOVATIONS SPACE ROCK RADIO (SHOW #221) + REVIEWS I've uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #221)). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Though new issues of Aural Innovations are officially on hiatus, AI staffer Chuck Rosenberg submitted a handful of great reviews so I've published an update. We'll call it a "Chuckdate"! Check them out at: http://www.aural-innovations.com/2009/july/july2009.htm Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #221) The Movements - "Mother, Some Day I'm Going To Be An Astronaut" (from For Sardines Space Is No Problem) THTX - "Collective Mind Anarchy" (from The Flickering Sky) Alan Davey - "Strung Out" (from Eclectic Devils) The Rick Ray Band - "Taken Control" (from The Setlist) Rockets - "Legions of Aliens" (from Plasteroid) Mac of BIOnight - "The Asylum" (from Aelectroid) Spirits Burning - "Strafed By A UFO" (from Spirits Burning: Our Best Trips 1998-2008) Sendelica - "Glory Bee" (from The Girl From The Future Who Lit Up The Sky With Golden Worlds) High Watt Electrocutions - "Headphone Opus" (from Desert Opuses) Robert Calvert and Maximum Effect - "Damnation Alley" (from Live at the Stars n Stripes, Carlisle 1986) Astro Al - "Where The Worlds Collide" (from Naughty Kitty) Earthling Society - "Tempel ov Flaming Youth" (From Sci-Fi Hi-Fi) I/D - "Hot Boy" (from Midnight Hot) Olekranon - "I Know You Still Want Me Dead" (From Recycle Human Lung) Enormous - "Fly Low Dragonfly" (from Attentionsbahn) Gestalt-Risla - "The Journey To The East" (unreleased) Massaro - "Blue Moon" (from Technicolor Static) http://Aural-Innovations.com From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 14 07:26:46 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:26:46 -0700 Subject: HW: what's happening....(To Trev?)(and some guy) Message-ID: Taiyo Yuden may be the most durable, but is it as absorbent? Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Tuesday, Jul 14, 2009 1:39 am Subject: Re: HW: what's happening....(To Trev?)(and some guy) To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 7/13/09, Colin Allen wrote: > Yes, I believe that it makes a much better beermat! and it doesn't stop there anyone doubting the staying power of the now legendary archival quality taiyo yuden stock, just simply could not do better than to ask Trev for a promo and a few quid compensation for time taken to analyze the stunning playback of these babes......I mean it played totally glitch free all the way through on the first try......... Then, if you are able to focus your attention away from the dazzling japanese display of workmanship, you get to the intense subversion happening underneath.... here we witness Trev and (some guy) taking the piss in many directions......testosterone aplenty.....(well, the other guy's a bit squeaky but Trev covers it) He's attempting to single handedly destroy the space rock genre, annoy Dave Brock for not having them at the Hawkfest, turn Turner fuming to the point that he is forced back into ICU to pick up the broken shards, and if that isn't proof of Trev's (and some guy's) big balls, it is further guaranteed to make Mike Coleman (me) squirm trying to review it a must have for it's guts alone!!! and remember, the outer plastic sleeve makes a beermat, so you really get 2 beermats From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 14 13:21:40 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:21:40 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening....Trev and Kev and swooshes Message-ID: On 7/14/09, Steve wrote: > > Taiyo Yuden may be the most durable, but is it as absorbent? I don't know!! In all fairness Trev's playing is good as usual and it is a fun CD, and it honestly does have superb quality, I was amazed at that aspect and I'm not joking...deep bass, etc Also, by track 6 it did make me begn to laugh.....and it's not my fault if my sense of humor's broke... From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 14 15:39:13 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:39:13 +0100 Subject: Live at the Cosmic Puffin - Trev and Kev In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907141021x47a34e60jd1ae3841c81851ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Live at the Cosmic Puffin Trev and Kev get it here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html sound clip available -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:21 PM To: Subject: Re: HW: what's happening....Trev and Kev and swooshes > On 7/14/09, Steve wrote: >> >> Taiyo Yuden may be the most durable, but is it as absorbent? > > > I don't know!! > In all fairness Trev's playing is good as usual and it is a fun CD, and it > honestly does have superb quality, I was amazed at that aspect and I'm not > joking...deep bass, etc > Also, by track 6 it did make me begn to laugh.....and it's not my fault if > my sense of humor's broke... > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 14 21:41:47 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:41:47 +0100 Subject: Live at the Cosmic Puffin - Trev and Kev In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907141021x47a34e60jd1ae3841c81851ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yea, TREV and kev...TREV and kev...Yeeeeaaaaa http://www.myspace.com/trevandkev -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:39 PM To: Subject: Live at the Cosmic Puffin - Trev and Kev > Live at the Cosmic Puffin > > Trev and Kev > > get it here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > > sound clip available > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:21 PM > To: > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening....Trev and Kev and swooshes > >> On 7/14/09, Steve wrote: >>> >>> Taiyo Yuden may be the most durable, but is it as absorbent? >> >> >> I don't know!! >> In all fairness Trev's playing is absolutely fantastic as usual and it is a milestone CD, subversive and humorous and it >> honestly does have superb quality, I was amazed at that aspect and I'm not >> joking...deep bass, etc >> Also, by track 6 it did make me begn to laugh.....I ended up sptlitting my sides, it was so good. if you don't buy it you must be mad...like wot I am..he he he he he. That Judge Trev guy is just the best...Yeeaaaaaaa. I really wish I was just like him. I wish I had a pair of his underpants... >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 14 23:20:09 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:20:09 -0500 Subject: Live at the Cosmic Puffin - Trev and Kev In-Reply-To: Message-ID: lol don't you think his voice is a little stuck in adolescence to actually _name_ him, despite small caps??? the 114 degree heat isn't the bad part, it's the humidity that comes on through the evening I get a small window of a couple hours Where's this killing you promised Trev you promised me killing and you know I rely on you and believed you and I NEED THAT KILLING taking place On 7/14/09, trev wrote: > > Yea, TREV and kev...TREV and kev...Yeeeeaaaaa > > http://www.myspace.com/trevandkev > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "trev" > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:39 PM > To: > Subject: Live at the Cosmic Puffin - Trev and Kev > > > Live at the Cosmic Puffin > > > > Trev and Kev > > > > get it here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > > > > sound clip available > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "mike coleman" > > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:21 PM > > To: > > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening....Trev and Kev and swooshes > > > >> On 7/14/09, Steve wrote: > >>> > >>> Taiyo Yuden may be the most durable, but is it as absorbent? > >> > >> > >> I don't know!! > >> In all fairness Trev's playing is absolutely fantastic as usual and it > is a milestone CD, subversive and humorous and it > >> honestly does have superb quality, I was amazed at that aspect and I'm > not > >> joking...deep bass, etc > >> Also, by track 6 it did make me begn to laugh.....I ended up sptlitting > my sides, it was so good. if you don't buy it you must be mad...like wot I > am..he he he he he. That Judge Trev guy is just the best...Yeeaaaaaaa. I > really wish I was just like him. I wish I had a pair of his underpants... > >> > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 15 00:01:59 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:01:59 -0500 Subject: Live at the Cosmic Puffin - Trev and Kev In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907142020k336d50e9if92aa4d8b6b1afbb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: and I think I just realised why Trev is doing this duet despite the behaviour of these 2 onstage being a little poofie and making one wonder if there might be more than a name-rhyme going on It's kinda like he's got Ron Tree in permanent "alien voice" mode And I also just realised that if you already know the acoustic characteristics of the yoyo yuden CDRS, or you just don't care or you get the disc out, you've got 4, that's right 4!! beermats the paper booklet opens On 7/14/09, mike coleman wrote: > > lol > don't you think his voice is a little stuck in adolescence to actually > _name_ him, despite small caps??? > the 114 degree heat isn't the bad part, it's the humidity that comes on > through the evening > I get a small window of a couple hours > Where's this killing you promised > Trev you promised me killing and you know I rely on you and believed you > and I NEED THAT KILLING taking place > > On 7/14/09, trev wrote: >> >> Yea, TREV and kev...TREV and kev...Yeeeeaaaaa >> >> http://www.myspace.com/trevandkev >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "trev" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:39 PM >> To: >> Subject: Live at the Cosmic Puffin - Trev and Kev >> >> > Live at the Cosmic Puffin >> > >> > Trev and Kev >> > >> > get it here http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html >> > >> > sound clip available >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------- >> > From: "mike coleman" >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:21 PM >> > To: >> > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening....Trev and Kev and swooshes >> > >> >> On 7/14/09, Steve wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Taiyo Yuden may be the most durable, but is it as absorbent? >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't know!! >> >> In all fairness Trev's playing is absolutely fantastic as usual and it >> is a milestone CD, subversive and humorous and it >> >> honestly does have superb quality, I was amazed at that aspect and I'm >> not >> >> joking...deep bass, etc >> >> Also, by track 6 it did make me begn to laugh.....I ended up >> sptlitting my sides, it was so good. if you don't buy it you must be >> mad...like wot I am..he he he he he. That Judge Trev guy is just the >> best...Yeeaaaaaaa. I really wish I was just like him. I wish I had a pair of >> his underpants... >> >> >> > >> > > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jul 15 01:01:42 2009 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (js3619 at ACMENET.NET) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:01:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: SUNY Stony Brook mention Message-ID: http://www.earbender.com/2009/06/17/stony-brook-university-recognizes-alumni-blue-oyster-cult-richard-meltzer/ From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Wed Jul 15 05:03:30 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:03:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I In-Reply-To: A<5530DF7B-29BC-4DF1-AF38-FD051CF6915E@carlaz.com> Message-ID: And definitely a "cult" movie amongst "men of a certain age" (ahem!) It's also worth noting that it's earned a BFI monograph, and the publication of Richard E. Grant's production diary. There's a book by the director too. It was also national news when the remote Cumbrian farmhouse used as "Uncle Monty"'s residence went up for auction... Chris W obCD Art Zoyd - Berlin -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: 13 July 2009 18:43 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Withnail & I On 13 Jul 2009, at 12:15, Owen O'Neill wrote: > It's not as well known a movie as one may assume. Though as it was placed into the top half of the Channel 4 "100 Greatest Films" list a little while back, I think one may assume with modest safety that it is not entirely unknown. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. 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I can assure you I have watched this film maybe a dozen times, and I for one would never even think about it... ?"we'll have to drink fast, A brace of pints and 2 quadruple gins please landlord" - err no thanks IF -----Original Message----- From: Chris Warburton To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, Jul 15, 2009 10:03 am Subject: Re: OFF: Withnail & I And definitely a "cult" movie amongst "men of a certain age" (ahem!) It's also worth noting that it's earned a BFI monograph, and the publication of Richard E. Grant's production diary. There's a book by the director too. It was also national news when the remote Cumbrian farmhouse used as "Uncle Monty"'s residence went up for auction... Chris W obCD Art Zoyd - Berlin -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: 13 July 2009 18:43 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Withnail & I On 13 Jul 2009, at 12:15, Owen O'Neill wrote: > It's not as well known a movie as one may assume. Though as it was placed into the top half of the Channel 4 "100 Greatest Films" list a little while back, I think one may assume with modest safety that it is not entirely unknown. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. If you are not one of the intended recipients, or this email is received in error, please immediately either notify the sender or contact UBM Aviation on +44 (0) 1582 600111 quoting the name of the sender and the email address to which it has been sent and then delete it and any attachment(s). While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, UBM Aviation and its affiliate companies cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your systems, and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. Neither UBM Aviation nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. UBM Aviation may monitor or record outgoing and incoming e-mail to secure effective system operation and for other lawful purposes. By replying to this email you give your consent to such monitoring. Thank you. UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 15 08:04:45 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:04:45 -0500 Subject: OFF: Withnail & I In-Reply-To: <8CBD3438863D8EC-137C-9F6@webmail-de07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 15 Jul 2009, at 04:12 , iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > There is also I believe a rather mad drinking game, whereby the > viewers need to drink at the same regularity & quanitity as one of > the screen actors. > I can assure you I have watched this film maybe a dozen times, and > I for one would never even think about it.. I believe the most recent DVD release actually as a "featurette" about the drinking game, though I have not seen this. I am pretty sure that trying to keep up with the character of Withnail, drink for drink through the film (even leaving the lighter fluid aside) would probably prove fatal if one succeeded! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 15 08:09:30 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:09:30 -0500 Subject: BOC: SUNY Stony Brook mention In-Reply-To: <864cff48e9cdd80dd9f0013b53c590a9@pop.logical.net> Message-ID: On 15 Jul 2009, at 00:01 , js3619 at ACMENET.NET wrote: > http://www.earbender.com/2009/06/17/stony-brook-university- > recognizes-alumni-blue-oyster-cult-richard-meltzer/ Ah, SUNY Stony Brook! My hometown university! My mom used to work there. :) Admittedly, my family didn't move to Stony Brook until after whatever association BOC, or members or associates thereof, had with the campus had probably ended (sometime between ST and AoF). However, before that, we did live in Oyster Bay, which I always felt oughta be somehow connected to the whole mythos. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 15 08:42:37 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:42:37 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am happy to report that my lack of Alan Davey's _Eclectic Devils_ has been remedied by my good friend Andy Gilham (formerly of this list) who bought a copy in the UK and got someone traveling to Colombia to carry it to me. :) Must be the only copy in the continent! ;) Ripping away in iTunes now so that I can listen later today. :) Cheers, Carl ps - got a copy of the _Anvil! The Story of Anvil_ DVD as well, which I gather is top viewing. :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 15 11:03:17 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:03:17 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <82801356-55E2-4B1C-8447-E420DAD449B7@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Carl- > ps - got a copy of the _Anvil! The Story of Anvil_ DVD as well, which I > gather is top viewing. :) I almost brought this up This band came up in a conversation somehow, and I recalled I had seen them in my youth, and I remember thinking back then that they were unique in some way, so I looked on wikipedia and to my utter shock, they've made (this) movie about the band that "sometimes plays gigs and nobody is there at all", and it is supposed to be one of the best rock-docs ever made and it has lemmy.... anything further on this appreciated cheers mike From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jul 15 11:29:39 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:29:39 -0700 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907150803u725bc9a9tb67fecff21ebc418@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It's a good documentary: the singer/guitarist is a cater/delivery person and the drummer is also doing a 9-5 dead end job. They get a tour offer to tour Europe and try to convince Chris Tsangarides to produce a new record (which they have to borrow money to make). This woman manages their tour and I wonder if she even knew what she was doing (she later marries their guitarist). In one scene they basically play this dungeon and argue about getting paid. They often have to take the train to gigs. Lemmy, Lars Ulrich, Slash, etc. are interviewed. It shows footage of them playing some Japanese festival in the 80s. I was an 80s metal kid and I hadn't heard them (I started to listening to Metallica when "Ride the Lightning" came out). I recommend it. ? ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:03:17 AM Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... Carl- > ps - got a copy of the _Anvil! The Story of Anvil_ DVD as well, which I > gather is top viewing. :) I almost brought this up This band came up in a conversation somehow, and I recalled I had seen them in my youth, and I remember thinking back then that they were unique in some way, so I looked on wikipedia and to my utter shock, they've made (this) movie about the band that "sometimes plays gigs and nobody is there at all", and it is supposed to be one of the best rock-docs ever made and it has lemmy.... anything further on this appreciated cheers mike From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 15 11:42:26 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:42:26 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <83065.44421.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 15 Jul 2009, at 10:29, gary shindler wrote: > They often have to take the train to gigs. Heh, been there, done that! :) And for hometown gigs, I bicycled! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jul 15 12:12:12 2009 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:12:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anvil: The Story of Anvil! (was: Re: HW: what's happening....) In-Reply-To: <83065.44421.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I second this! I saw the film at the local cinema and can heartily recommend it. Although it is real-life _Spinal Tap_ in quite a few places, overall I found it a very touching and moving film in the end---one more about an enduring friendship and pursuing a chosen dream than simply the story of an almost-made-it heavy metal band. (Perhaps more pertinent to this list, I couldn't help wondering all the way through, "is this what latter-day Hawkwind and BOC have to put up with nowadays?) It's a really good documentary, made by a fan apparently, and I hope, if nothing else, it drives some resurgence of interest and sales Anvil's way. Cheers, Paul. On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:29 AM, gary shindler wrote: > It's a good documentary: the singer/guitarist is a cater/delivery > person and the drummer is also doing a 9-5 dead end job. They get a > tour offer to tour Europe and try to convince Chris Tsangarides to > produce a new record (which they have to borrow money to make). This > woman manages their tour and I wonder if she even knew what she was > doing (she later marries their guitarist). In one scene they > basically play this dungeon and argue about getting paid. They often > have to take the train to gigs. > Lemmy, Lars Ulrich, Slash, etc. are interviewed. It shows footage of > them playing some Japanese festival in the 80s. I was an 80s metal > kid and I hadn't heard them (I started to listening to Metallica > when "Ride the Lightning" came out). I recommend it. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:03:17 AM > Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > > Carl- > ps - got a copy of the _Anvil! The Story of Anvil_ DVD as > well, which I > gather is top viewing. :) I almost brought this up > This band came up in a conversation somehow, and I recalled I had > seen them in my youth, and I remember thinking back then that they > were unique in some way, so I looked on wikipedia and to my utter > shock, they've made (this) movie about the band that "sometimes > plays gigs and nobody is there at all", and it is supposed to be one > of the best rock-docs ever made and it has lemmy.... anything > further on this appreciated cheers mike > > > > > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Jul 15 13:58:11 2009 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:58:11 -0500 Subject: HW: yet another sf author who is a fan Message-ID: Looks like Simon R. Green is a fan of the band. The first Nightside book (_Something from the Nightside_) mentions one of the protagonist's favorite bars...the ghost of the famous Hawk's Wind Bar and Grill, where such luminaries as the Sonic Assassin, the Notting Hill Sorcerer, and the Cornelius clan hang out. Anyone keeping track of Hawkwind refs in fiction? Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #409, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 16 02:55:50 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:55:50 -0500 Subject: (off) Trev and Kev Message-ID: the personal irony for me is that (that guy) that Trev lets on stage is (unless I'm mistaken) a british hell's angel I'm sure the CD is great fun and as soon as I ever get some beer I'm gonna test that theory From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Thu Jul 16 04:12:14 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:12:14 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: A<40E66DAB-E78B-40E5-AEE9-4CA6691E51EA@carlaz.com> Message-ID: You must have had a helluva rack'n'panniers to take your rig *LOL* Chris Warburton Senior Database Administrator Tel: + 44 (0)1582 695463 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: 15 July 2009 16:42 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... On 15 Jul 2009, at 10:29, gary shindler wrote: > They often have to take the train to gigs. Heh, been there, done that! :) And for hometown gigs, I bicycled! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the intended recipient. 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UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jul 16 09:35:38 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:35:38 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <7EB1B21B9738D44F91456B3D81367DBD0214CCAA@uk01ex03.travel.oag.com> Message-ID: On 16 Jul 2009, at 03:12 , Chris Warburton wrote: > You must have had a helluva rack'n'panniers to take your rig *LOL* Sadly, I just had a very small rig instead! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Jul 16 13:29:21 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:29:21 +0000 Subject: Don't forget about our July 24th and August 14th shows Message-ID: complete information about our two upcoming shows below: July 24th: Mike Burro & Friends August 14th: Mike with Stewkey of NAZZ http://www.prlog.org/10276498.html _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive?: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Jul 17 12:05:10 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:05:10 -0700 Subject: Apollo 11 video Message-ID: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_sc/us_sci_moon_video From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 17 12:15:40 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:15:40 +0100 Subject: Teapots in Space Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jul 17 17:50:19 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:50:19 -0500 Subject: Teapots in Space In-Reply-To: <200907171615.n6HGFe5C008781@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: oh come on, not even an ayahuasca experience could erase the truth that astronomers are just more quarantined humans to "them", and that they only risk earth to steal garden gnomes with American accents....and water On 7/17/09, M Holmes wrote: > > Gong fans will like this video: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc94HvUNH8I > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Jul 17 18:15:22 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:15:22 +0000 Subject: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny Message-ID: Enjoy!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kHk4RFAROg&feature=related _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jul 17 21:54:03 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:54:03 -0500 Subject: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny In-Reply-To: Message-ID: giggling I hadto pull the speakers up to my ears but it was worth it weather or not "the devil" is just another fairytale (no pun intended here), and the rites of ragnarok only a symbolic ritual, nothing saddens me more than satan's awesome rock being twisted into a biblical laugh no thanks for reminding me of the "Vengeance Rising" CD I used to have (gifted by one of those unfortunates sadly lacking in alien genetic heritage), but I'll get over it and I wonder how they'd have fared here's to the austrian gay community lol On 7/17/09, Burro Mike wrote: > > > > > > Enjoy!!! > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kHk4RFAROg&feature=related > > _________________________________________________________________ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. > > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jul 18 00:54:33 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:54:33 -0500 Subject: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907171854q25cbd000x53f68b9eab706c4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: However bands like Trouble, not specifically catagorized as "christian rock", but with that basic theme, singing honest lyrics like "we are not holy men but at least we try"........ mighty fine imho, mighty fine On 7/17/09, mike coleman wrote: > > giggling > I hadto pull the speakers up to my ears but it was worth it > weather or not "the devil" is just another fairytale (no pun intended > here), and the rites of ragnarok only a symbolic ritual, nothing saddens me > more than satan's awesome rock being twisted into a biblical laugh > no thanks for reminding me of the "Vengeance Rising" CD I used to have > (gifted by one of those unfortunates sadly lacking in alien genetic > heritage), but I'll get over it and I wonder how they'd have fared > here's to the austrian gay community lol > > On 7/17/09, Burro Mike wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Enjoy!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kHk4RFAROg&feature=related >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. >> >> http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 > > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 18 07:28:40 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:28:40 +0100 Subject: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907171854q25cbd000x53f68b9eab706c4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Become enlightened by the secret knowledge of the BLESSED ONES and gain access to the ONE TRUE WAY only ?7.99 (plus postage) http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/cosmicpuffin.html -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:54 AM To: Subject: Re: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny > giggling > I hadto pull the speakers up to my ears but it was worth it > weather or not "the devil" is just another fairytale (no pun intended here), > and the rites of ragnarok only a symbolic ritual, nothing saddens me more > than satan's awesome rock being twisted into a biblical laugh > no thanks for reminding me of the "Vengeance Rising" CD I used to have > (gifted by one of those unfortunates sadly lacking in alien genetic > heritage), but I'll get over it and I wonder how they'd have fared > here's to the austrian gay community lol > > On 7/17/09, Burro Mike wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Enjoy!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kHk4RFAROg&feature=related >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. >> >> http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Jul 18 15:04:44 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:04:44 -0500 Subject: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907172154i57c154a1kd60c4d78244408e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 17 Jul 2009, at 23:54 , mike coleman wrote: > However bands like Trouble, not specifically catagorized as "christian > rock", but with that basic theme, singing honest lyrics like "we > are not > holy men but at least we try"........ > mighty fine imho, mighty fine Great band, Trouble! :) I don't much care about a musician's spiritual preferences, anyway -- only that they create music I like. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jul 18 15:34:30 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:34:30 -0500 Subject: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/18/09, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > Great band, Trouble! :) > > I don't much care about a musician's spiritual preferences, anyway -- only > that they create music I like. :) Totally agree....If I can make out lyrics I'd just assume they be about garden gnomes and pop rock candy I just loathe people who think they have to procreate to complete their pathetic existence and even worse, fear flipping the bird straight in creation's eye (reserving the word god as it's selfish to just "assume" the actual almighty made us), over certain hardships in life lol From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jul 18 18:33:33 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:33:33 +0100 Subject: Spacerock article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Mr H wrote: > That space rock article in Instant magazine is now available to download here; > > http://www.instantmagazine.co.uk/previous-issues/current-instant.pdf That's a broad broad church of spacerock there Mr H! Monster Magnet and Kyuss I would admit if only because, although Kyuss are all about deserts to my ears, `Gardenia' is basically `Time We Left' with the riff revved up a bit, complete with strangled guitar break, and `Asteroid' is hard to deny. And Monster Magnet have actually used the `Time We Left' riff intact and covered `Brainstorm'. OK. But the Flaming Lips? What makes them space rather than psychedelia? (Or, in fact, indie. Say rather, what makes the Flaming Lips such a pale shadow of the Olivia Tremor Control?) Just some discussion points :-) Good to see the word got out once more though, yours, Jon ObAlbum: Keelhaul - _Keelhaul_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Jul 18 19:37:09 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:37:09 -0500 Subject: Spacerock article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 18 Jul 2009, at 17:33 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Kyuss are all about deserts to my ears, But there's a lot of space out in them there deserts! ;) > `Gardenia' is basically `Time We Left' with the riff revved up a > bit, complete with strangled guitar break The break I might compare to Time We Left, if a bit more grooved out, though I tend to compare Gardenia more to the likes of Master of the Universe or Brainstorm, gracias al monolithic, downtuned, powerchord riffing. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 18 20:14:55 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:14:55 +0100 Subject: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907171854q25cbd000x53f68b9eab706c4d@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610907172154i57c154a1kd60c4d78244408e8@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610907181234g440ea22j9d98a16f614abb4b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: will you please just shuttup and start selling my new album available here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html> and the lol spaeaks volumes... there's going to be a big announcement soon regarding live at the cosmic puffin and it will concern you all > Totally agree....If I can make out lyrics I'd just assume they be about > garden gnomes and pop rock candy > I just loathe people who think they have to procreate to complete their > pathetic existence and even worse, fear flipping the bird straight in > creation's eye (reserving the word god as it's selfish to just "assume" the > actual almighty made us), over certain hardships in life > lol > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jul 18 22:51:13 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:51:13 -0500 Subject: Apollo 11 video + forum apology+ secret space program Message-ID: Dear cool people (Trev made me send this draft) please find it in your hearts to forgive 1 more time for my spewing personal crud that is off topic but here's some more- I'm not quite as negative as it could appear, and I do believe I get firsthand proof almost daily of "something higher" that's good, although it's tricky business and I couldn't find words to say how you work it I haven't looked at this video yet as I'm afraid I'll just get mad not seeing "them" along the crater however I would like to add that my own research is leaning more and more to the tune of the USA having a secret space program and how depressing it would be if our earthly quaranteen is us and them isn't it time the USA at least broke out soemthing cool and nailed somebody evil straight in the forehead?? Next, I was about to say that Jarrett is so right that Monster Magnet isn't space rock and that it was just a trick of Wyndorf resembling Brock a bit, (before Christian reposted he got fat) (do we still have a Christian?), covering a couple songs, doing HW tunes at soundchaeck, etc , etc.......and then I remembered there's Tab 25 I remember I used to go to their shows in the 90's and watching the screen and thinking "this is so rudementarily lame" I do enjoy them as a heavy rock act on the odd occasion...... Now that we can buy Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Life at the cosmic pufin, there is no more room for Monster Magnet something has to go that's Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev we need money money money money money nobody will hire us and you have work so give send click buy send click buy money money money will shuttup for money send click pay Trev and Kev On 7/17/09, gary shindler wrote: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_sc/us_sci_moon_video > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jul 18 22:46:53 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:46:53 -0500 Subject: Bruno visits Christian Rock Festival..old clip from Ali G show..very funny In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907181234g440ea22j9d98a16f614abb4b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: this calls for the draft I wrote and saved Yes I need to sell the Trev and Kev CDR, otherwise I will starve make paypal to mike coleman insect.brain at gmail.com On 7/18/09, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 7/18/09, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >> Great band, Trouble! :) >> >> I don't much care about a musician's spiritual preferences, anyway -- only >> that they create music I like. :) > > > Totally agree....If I can make out lyrics I'd just assume they be about > garden gnomes and pop rock candy > I just loathe people who think they have to procreate to complete their > pathetic existence and even worse, fear flipping the bird straight in > creation's eye (reserving the word god as it's selfish to just "assume" the > actual almighty made us), over certain hardships in life > lol > > > From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sun Jul 19 05:58:38 2009 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:58:38 +0200 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The third Hawkwind Alien Autopsy boot is now - in a short time frame - active on the German eBay site (not visable in the UK or US sister sites). http://cgi.ebay.de/HAWKWIND-ALIEN-AUTOPSY-LP-COLORED-VINYL-RARE_W0QQitemZ300330992494QQcmdZViewItemQQptZB%C3%BCcher_Unterhaltung_Music_CDs?hash=item45ed1f436e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (attention: Will time out within 23 hours This time it is a colored vinyl, stated to have been made in a limited edition of 100 copies. What is the story behind this one? I've not heard of this item before, though I've been collecting Hawkwind stuff since the early eighties. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 19 09:30:49 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:30:49 -0500 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <200907190956.n6J9uKjF009182@sputnik.bktv.se> Message-ID: Hi Johan All I know is that we first saw it on eBay on black vinyl, with a printed label, and that one went expensive, then I did dome e-digging and discovered it had originally been offered off-ebay for $50.00, then suddenly the seller of the eBay one had another one to go to the next highest bidder, then suddenly there was another still offered to (someone I had to kil lol) and that is when I stepped in and tried to reason with the seller for a couple copies at a human price, which failed miserably and I got no response, then it showed up in Germany with a blank white label and that went expensive, and then one of the last things I heard about it was in German, which is as follows * USA-Pressung 2008* - 125 copies, es wird keine reissue geben *- 50 wurden nach Japan, 50 innerhalb der USA und 25 nach Deutschland verkauft* *- es gibt nur schwarzes vinyl mit weissem Label, 3 inserts * *- alle mit Hoffmann Stempel & Pr?gung* On 7/19/09, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > The third Hawkwind Alien Autopsy boot is now - in a short time frame - > active on the German eBay site (not visable in the UK or US sister sites). > > > http://cgi.ebay.de/HAWKWIND-ALIEN-AUTOPSY-LP-COLORED-VINYL-RARE_W0QQitemZ300330992494QQcmdZViewItemQQptZB%C3%BCcher_Unterhaltung_Music_CDs?hash=item45ed1f436e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 > (attention: Will time out within 23 hours > > This time it is a colored vinyl, stated to have been made in a limited > edition of 100 copies. > > What is the story behind this one? > I've not heard of this item before, though I've been collecting Hawkwind > stuff since the early eighties. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Jul 19 12:31:15 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:31:15 +0200 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907190630u335f0070vf5440fee9bb31fc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi folks Here is the translation: - 125 copies, es wird keine reissue geben 125 copies, there will be no reissues *- 50 wurden nach Japan, 50 innerhalb der USA und 25 nach Deutschland verkauft* 50 were sold to Japan, 50 within the USA and 50 to Germany *- es gibt nur schwarzes vinyl mit weissem Label, 3 inserts * Only black vinyl available with white label, 3 inserts *- alle mit Hoffmann Stempel & Pr?gung* All with Hofmann stamp Hope that helps Bernhard On 7/19/09, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > The third Hawkwind Alien Autopsy boot is now - in a short time frame - > active on the German eBay site (not visable in the UK or US sister sites). > > > http://cgi.ebay.de/HAWKWIND-ALIEN-AUTOPSY-LP-COLORED-VINYL-RARE_W0QQit > emZ300330992494QQcmdZViewItemQQptZB%C3%BCcher_Unterhaltung_Music_CDs?h > ash=item45ed1f436e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C3 > 9%3A1%7C72%3A1229%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 > (attention: Will time out within 23 hours > > This time it is a colored vinyl, stated to have been made in a limited > edition of 100 copies. > > What is the story behind this one? > I've not heard of this item before, though I've been collecting > Hawkwind stuff since the early eighties. > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 19 12:43:18 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:43:18 -0500 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <1MSZGE-0loJDk0@fwd06.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: > > Hope that helps > > Bernhard Thanks Bernard. It does. It helps me want it, wich I didn't want. Now I'll have to click repeat on "Eat The Gun" thanks From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Jul 19 12:53:23 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:53:23 +0200 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907190943q28004f88k922212b1b82c4865@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: :-)) I'd like to know why they released it as a single LP and not the complete show on a double one. Very strange -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > > Hope that helps > > Bernhard Thanks Bernard. It does. It helps me want it, wich I didn't want. Now I'll have to click repeat on "Eat The Gun" thanks From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 19 12:58:51 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:58:51 -0500 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <1MSZbd-0QAweO0@fwd00.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Oh Bernard, before you run off, you are just the person to ask if this show is good enough to be made into the record your comment appreciated cheers On 7/19/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > :-)) > > I'd like to know why they released it as a single LP and not the complete > show on a double one. > Very strange > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Bernhard > > > Thanks Bernard. It does. It helps me want it, wich I didn't want. Now I'll > have to click repeat on "Eat The Gun" > thanks > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Jul 19 13:27:49 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:27:49 +0200 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907190958r5827f92cmc684709e3a68a7d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike Well, I have this show on CDR and it is a great one !!! I hope the vinyl has at least the same quality as the CDR Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:59 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy Oh Bernard, before you run off, you are just the person to ask if this show is good enough to be made into the record your comment appreciated cheers On 7/19/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > :-)) > > I'd like to know why they released it as a single LP and not the > complete show on a double one. > Very strange > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Bernhard > > > Thanks Bernard. It does. It helps me want it, wich I didn't want. Now > I'll have to click repeat on "Eat The Gun" > thanks > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 19 13:34:27 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:34:27 -0500 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <1MSa8x-1pS33A0@fwd05.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: I hope you have retained all of your cassettes, as many of my CDRS have begun to die off after a decade or so, and I even have my stuff sealed in sandwich bags keep those cassettes I wish I had that show to listen to now I wish Dave would release a killer 75 show On 7/19/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > Hi Mike > > Well, I have this show on CDR and it is a great one !!! > I hope the vinyl has at least the same quality as the CDR > > > Bernhard > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:59 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > > Oh Bernard, before you run off, you are just the person to ask if this show > is good enough to be made into the record your comment appreciated cheers > > > On 7/19/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > > > :-)) > > > > I'd like to know why they released it as a single LP and not the > > complete show on a double one. > > Very strange > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of mike coleman > > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:43 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > > > > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > > > Bernhard > > > > > > Thanks Bernard. It does. It helps me want it, wich I didn't want. Now > > I'll have to click repeat on "Eat The Gun" > > thanks > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 20 01:22:45 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:22:45 -0500 Subject: Apollo 11 video In-Reply-To: <52071.76046.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: They just said Neil Armstrong just spoke at some big gala for about 11 seconds Nasa loses moonlanding foorage due to "re-useable" formats anyone buying this stuff should do the rest of us a favor and shoot yourself in the head right now so nobody else has to wake up wake up buy the cosmic puffin cd befoe you do from me insect.brain at gmail.com USA dollars $17 I've sold 5 and I feel a bit gullty but I'm sure glad I'm hard to find and this is addictive wake up thy sheep NASA= Not A Space Agency ps-yes I am prepeared to hear from somebody smart that I am wrong, so if I am bring it on On 7/17/09, gary shindler wrote: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_sc/us_sci_moon_video > > > > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Jul 20 08:26:24 2009 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:26:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <1MSZGE-0loJDk0@fwd06.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: On Jul 19, 2009, at 12:31 PM, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > Hi folks > > Here is the translation: > > - 125 copies, es wird keine reissue geben > 125 copies, there will be no reissues > [...] > 50 were sold to Japan, 50 within the USA and 50 to Germany Is it just me, or do we have a slight arithmetic problem here... :-) Cheers, Paul. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jul 20 08:50:07 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:50:07 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922D3E7F0F5@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > Seems that not much discussion of the band is happening at the moment. The 40th anniversary show is only 7 weeks away. Girlschool opening I understand. IT will be quite disappointing if it is just a normal HW show in a cool venue. I never even saw a set list posted from the april gigs? What did they play? I heard Mirror of Illusion mentioned.... I've rather lost touch with the whole scene, I think; hardly going to any gigs, because I used to hear about them on mailing lists that no longer forward me such information (though I am going to see Jefferson Starship and QMS double-head next month, thirty years too late I'm well ware but it still seemed unmissable). I have bought quite a chunk of spacerock lately, and am glad to see it's still being made, but not so much of it was new (the new Spaceseed is well up to standard though). Missed the Litmus album launch gig entirely through my own stupidity, and I was going to the Hawklords Roundhouse gig but... So yes: given the setlist that Bernhard posted I should really make some effort to reconnect to the real deal. > Saw the Hawklords actually played at the Sonic Rock Solstice? Anyone go > or hear about the gig, what they played, if they were any good, who was > in the band,e tc.... Looks like a cool space rock weekend with earthing > society (new cd is their best ever!), Litmus (new one very delayed now), > PreMEd, Gunslinger (ok more motorhead than space rock),etc.. Y'see, I didn't even know about the Sonic Rock Solstice except as a concept. I don't think I could have made it but because it wasn't put in front of me as an idea it never had a chance. > Anyone hear the new Alan Davey solo record?? > > Come on people....... let's get this HW discussion going.. Easier than BOC one at least! Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 20 09:23:28 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 06:23:28 -0700 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy Message-ID: Use those extra-absorbent Taiyo Yuden beermats! I had two CDRs of rarities from one of my favorite bands die on me and boy was that distressing. Hard drive space is cheap these days I'm thinking of taking FLACs of everything irreplaceable and keeping two active copies of it (cross copying between 2 separate computers). Last time I checked consumer/home backup technology was lagging hard drive space rather badly.... Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 1:37 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET I hope you have retained all of your cassettes, as many of my CDRS have begun to die off after a decade or so, and I even have my stuff sealed in sandwich bags keep those cassettes I wish I had that show to listen to now I wish Dave would release a killer 75 show On 7/19/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > Hi Mike > Well, I have this show on CDR and it is a great one !!! I hope the vinyl has at least the same quality as the CDR > Bernhard > > -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:59 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > Oh Bernard, before you run off, you are just the person to ask if this show is good enough to be made into the record your comment appreciated cheers > On 7/19/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > :-)) > > I'd like to know why they released it as a single LP and not the > complete show on a double one. > Very strange > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Bernhard > > > Thanks Bernard. It does. It helps me want it, wich I didn't want. Now > I'll have to click repeat on "Eat The Gun" > thanks > From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Mon Jul 20 10:04:39 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:04:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: A<3330926607.156990@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: WD do a 2TB usb hard drive pair in a usb enclosure that's configured as a raid mirrored pair for $small Chris Warburton Senior Database Administrator Tel: + 44 (0)1582 695463 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: 20 July 2009 14:23 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy Use those extra-absorbent Taiyo Yuden beermats! I had two CDRs of rarities from one of my favorite bands die on me and boy was that distressing. Hard drive space is cheap these days I'm thinking of taking FLACs of everything irreplaceable and keeping two active copies of it (cross copying between 2 separate computers). Last time I checked consumer/home backup technology was lagging hard drive space rather badly.... Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Sunday, Jul 19, 2009 1:37 pm Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET I hope you have retained all of your cassettes, as many of my CDRS have begun to die off after a decade or so, and I even have my stuff sealed in sandwich bags keep those cassettes I wish I had that show to listen to now I wish Dave would release a killer 75 show On 7/19/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > Hi Mike > Well, I have this show on CDR and it is a great one !!! I hope the vinyl has at least the same quality as the CDR > Bernhard > > -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:59 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > Oh Bernard, before you run off, you are just the person to ask if this > show is good enough to be made into the record your comment appreciated cheers > On 7/19/09, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > :-)) > > I'd like to know why they released it as a single LP and not the > complete show on a double one. > Very strange > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy > > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Bernhard > > > Thanks Bernard. It does. It helps me want it, wich I didn't want. 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Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Jul 20 10:39:26 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:39:26 +0200 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: :-)))) I did only the translation, not the mathematics ;-))) Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 2:26 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy On Jul 19, 2009, at 12:31 PM, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > Hi folks > > Here is the translation: > > - 125 copies, es wird keine reissue geben > 125 copies, there will be no reissues > [...] > 50 were sold to Japan, 50 within the USA and 50 to Germany Is it just me, or do we have a slight arithmetic problem here... :-) Cheers, Paul. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jul 20 10:49:01 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:49:01 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <8CBCDBC0CA16743-1040-379A@webmail-da15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote: > Those that hate modern Hawkwind will slag it, those that love em will praise it.. Ah, but, what's modern Hawkwind? The best Hawkwind I ever saw was in 2001 (though looking back I think everything I was experiencing that year was heightened by a variety of factors). Is that still modern? It's not 1972 Hawkwind but then I sometimes wonder whether anyone really knows what that was like. It sounds like 2009 Hawkwind is pulling a few stops out, new songs, long sets and so on. But any Hawkwind is better than no Hawkwind. When I bitch it's because something else has got in the way of there being more of it, or else that I'm cynically expecting something to do so. The core of this reaction is a grumpy junkie denied his fix... > I have a ticket, but not a hotel room, because I'm not stumping up money > for a hotel until the lineup is confirmed.. Arthur Brown! Graham Coxon! Just like in 2003! Damn, sorry. What I mean is: I'll be happier not knowing who's playing than being told something they can't, in the end, deliver, so I can appreciate silence on this score. > bugger I just discussed it... Dammit, and here's us with our Trappist-like vow of silence eh? Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Jul 20 11:16:40 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:16:40 -0400 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah,? I get your point about RFH expectations of guests. Think I'd like o follow your example here and just go with the flow, seems much easier option, what will be will be. Looking forward to the gig actually, especially as i'll see them at beautiful days as well. As for modern, I think Hawkwind were rather quite forward in 2001, certainly the tours around then were great, and i stand by this last winters tour as being the finest since that period. anyhow, Trappist like - now your talking, A Chimey tonight will go down very well with the new Tinariwen Album... Cheers IF? -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 3:49 pm Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, iainferguson at AOL.COM wrote:? ? > Those that hate modern Hawkwind will slag it, those that love em will praise it..? ? ? Ah, but, what's modern Hawkwind? The best Hawkwind I ever saw was in 2001 (though looking back I think everything I was experiencing that year was heightened by a variety of factors). Is that still modern? It's not 1972 Hawkwind but then I sometimes wonder whether anyone really knows what that was like. It sounds like 2009 Hawkwind is pulling a few stops out, new songs, long sets and so on. But any Hawkwind is better than no Hawkwind. When I bitch it's because something else has got in the way of there being more of it, or else that I'm cynically expecting something to do so. The core of this reaction is a grumpy junkie denied his fix...? ? > I have a ticket, but not a hotel room, because I'm not stumping up money > for a hotel until the lineup is confirmed..? ? ? Arthur Brown! Graham Coxon! Just like in 2003! Damn, sorry. What I mean is: I'll be happier not knowing who's playing than being told something they can't, in the end, deliver, so I can appreciate silence on this score.? ? > bugger I just discussed it...? ? ? Dammit, and here's us with our Trappist-like vow of silence eh? Yours,? ? Jon? ? -- ? Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk? ? =======================================================================? ?"With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite"? ? -Robert Anton Wilson? From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jul 20 11:55:59 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:55:59 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <60723.80315.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Colin Allen wrote: > The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to problems with the test > copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been assured that > it will be released on August 17th. Swedish radio's channel P3 dedicated > 45 minutes to the album and an interview on Thursday 2nd July. This makes me feel *less* bad about missing that gig. But only by so much. Apart from this Yellowstock Festival, what other gigs are coming up? All content on the website seems to be inaccessible... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 20 12:01:51 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:01:51 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening.... In-Reply-To: <60723.80315.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:55 PM To: Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Colin Allen wrote: > >> The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to problems with the test >> copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been assured that >> it will be released on August 17th. Swedish radio's channel P3 dedicated >> 45 minutes to the album and an interview on Thursday 2nd July. > > This makes me feel *less* bad about missing that gig. But only by so > much. Apart from this Yellowstock Festival, what other gigs are coming up? > All content on the website seems to be inaccessible... Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 20 12:19:32 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:19:32 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening....Trev and Kev In-Reply-To: <60723.80315.qm@web23201.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: However, the Trev and Kev album "Live at the Cosmic Puffin" is available right now. It's burned on Taiyo Yuden archival Cd's guaranteed for 100 years so it'll probably be around much longer than "Aurora" It features two new songs by the renowned Hawkwind songwriter, Judge Trev and lots of old Inner City Unit faves too. You can get it here with credit card or pay pal or money http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html or apparently also from Mike Coleman By buying this album you will also contribute to the economic "levelling" of humanity as the impoverished Judge Trev will get wealthier and whoever buys it will get poorer in money (but richer in spirit) thus making the world a fairer place to live in. The gap between rich and poor is now greater than ever before. Do you believe in the Brotherhood of Man? Do you believe in equality for all men? Yes?, then this album is a must buy...in fact why not buy 10 of them? btw anyone going to the Big Green Gathering on the 29th...Trev and Kev are playing there wed and thu...so is nik turner... and ron tree (wed 10.30)...contact me for more details. Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:55 PM To: Subject: Re: HW: what's happening.... > On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Colin Allen wrote: > >> The Litmus album "Aurora" has been delayed due to problems with the test >> copies of both vinyl and CD versions; however, I have been assured that >> it will be released on August 17th. Swedish radio's channel P3 dedicated >> 45 minutes to the album and an interview on Thursday 2nd July. > > This makes me feel *less* bad about missing that gig. But only by > so much. Apart from this Yellowstock Festival, what other gigs are coming > up? All content on the website seems to be inaccessible... Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jul 20 13:35:40 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:35:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <3330926607.156990@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 20 Jul 2009, at 08:23 , Steve wrote: > I had two CDRs of rarities from one of my favorite bands die on me > and boy was that distressing. Hard drive space is cheap these days > I'm thinking of taking FLACs of everything irreplaceable and > keeping two active copies of it (cross copying between 2 separate > computers). Last time I checked consumer/home backup technology > was lagging hard drive space rather badly.... I thought hard drive space _was_ now consumer/home backup technology! :) All the CDs and other music I had in the UK is crammed losslessly onto a little under 680 GB of hard drive, but I just recently got the rest of my CDs from the US, and have 2 1TB drives at the top of my list of things to get; one for storage, one for backup. I can get them for about 250 USD, which is a small price to pay next to replacing all that music. Sure, a house fire could wipeout my main drive and the backup drive, along with the CDs (which are now effectively their own backup medium), but then a house fire could always have wiped out my CDs or vinyl or whatever. Putting everything lossless on HDs I think makes my whole collection safer and more accessible than ever. -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Jul 20 16:34:00 2009 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:34:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <05C01DE3-06BE-47FB-9C85-8A46A666A55E@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 20 Jul 2009, at 08:23 , Steve wrote: >> I had two CDRs of rarities from one of my favorite bands die on me >> and boy was that distressing. Hard drive space is cheap these days >> I'm thinking of taking FLACs of everything irreplaceable and >> keeping two active copies of it (cross copying between 2 separate >> computers). Last time I checked consumer/home backup technology >> was lagging hard drive space rather badly.... > > > I thought hard drive space _was_ now consumer/home backup > technology! :) > > All the CDs and other music I had in the UK is crammed losslessly > onto a little under 680 GB of hard drive, but I just recently got > the rest of my CDs from the US, and have 2 1TB drives at the top of > my list of things to get; one for storage, one for backup. I can > get them for about 250 USD, which is a small price to pay next to > replacing all that music. Sure, a house fire could wipeout my main > drive and the backup drive, along with the CDs (which are now > effectively their own backup medium), but then a house fire could > always have wiped out my CDs or vinyl or whatever. Putting > everything lossless on HDs I think makes my whole collection safer > and more accessible than ever. It makes your whole collection more accessible but probably not safer. If you do go the "primary + backup" drive route, remember a couple of salient points: 1) Consumer drives are getting larger all the time but are also suffering from ever poorer engineering, hence earlier failures; 2) External drives (USD, FireWire, etc.) don't support S.M.A.R.T. reporting, hence no forewarning of impending drive failures; 3) Increased areal density has lead to an increase in silent data corruption; 4) RAID is not a backup strategy; 5) Physical damage is not the only way to lose data. Be proactive and scrub often! Use checksums and test them! (Buy TREV and kev's latest release!;) One possibility to consider is to use an online backup such as Mozy or Amazon S3 as your backup drive. (Be sure to read the SLA very carefully!) That way, you can offline your storage and disaster recovery headaches to someone else. (The downside is that it is more expensive than a DIY consumer solution, but who said enterprise-level solutions necessarily came cheap?:) Cheers, Paul. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jul 20 16:44:30 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:44:30 -0500 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 20 Jul 2009, at 15:34 , Paul Mather wrote: > One possibility to consider is to use an online backup such as Mozy > or Amazon S3 as your backup drive. (Be sure to read the SLA very > carefully!) That way, you can offline your storage and disaster > recovery headaches to someone else. (The downside is that it is > more expensive than a DIY consumer solution, but who said > enterprise-level solutions necessarily came cheap?:) That would be better, but I'm not sure I'm willing to spring for the added security over the relative cheapness of 1 main drive, 1 backup drive, and (of course) the original CDs in most cases. However, I would guess that online storage will itself eventually become more affordable, too, and that would be a good extra line of security for the future. Cheer, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Jul 20 17:38:13 2009 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:38:13 -0400 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <1MStzX-1zPvwg0@fwd05.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: bernhard.pospiech wrote: > :-)))) > > I did only the translation, not the mathematics ;-))) > > > Bernhard > The math was OK, it was your fingers. The original said: *- 50 wurden nach Japan, 50 innerhalb der USA und 25 nach Deutschland verkauft* From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 20 18:08:01 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:08:01 -0400 Subject: Apollo 11 video + forum apology+ secret space program In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907181951w33eccd12lf8efe8e9247e3bc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: THere's stuff I saw, publicly available information about things being done in space that would outrage/inspire one depending on who's or not a "reactionist" On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM, mike coleman wrote: > Dear cool people (Trev made me send this draft) > please find it in your hearts to forgive 1 more time for my spewing > personal > crud that is off topic > but here's some more- I'm not quite as negative as it could appear, and I > do > believe I get firsthand proof almost daily of "something higher" that's > good, although it's tricky business and I couldn't find words to say how > you > work it > I haven't looked at this video yet as I'm afraid I'll just get mad not > seeing "them" along the crater however I would like to add that my own > research is leaning more and more to the tune of the USA having a secret > space program and how depressing it would be if our earthly quaranteen is > us > and them > isn't it time the USA at least broke out soemthing cool and nailed somebody > evil straight in the forehead?? > Next, I was about to say that Jarrett is so right that Monster Magnet isn't > space rock and that it was just a trick of Wyndorf resembling Brock a bit, > (before Christian reposted he got fat) (do we still have a Christian?), > covering a couple songs, doing HW tunes at soundchaeck, etc , etc.......and > then I remembered there's Tab 25 > I remember I used to go to their shows in the 90's and watching the screen > and thinking "this is so rudementarily lame" > I do enjoy them as a heavy rock act on the odd occasion...... > Now that we can buy Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev > Life at the cosmic pufin, there is no more room for Monster Magnet > something has to go > that's Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev > we need money > money money money money > nobody will hire us and you have work so give send click buy send click buy > money money money > will shuttup for money > send click pay Trev and Kev > > On 7/17/09, gary shindler wrote: > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_sc/us_sci_moon_video > > > > > > > > > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 20 18:09:11 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:09:11 -0400 Subject: Is anyone on this list a Scientologist? nt Message-ID: nt= no text. .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Jul 20 19:36:56 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:36:56 -0700 Subject: Is anyone on this list a Scientologist? nt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ________________________________ F No and what if they are? ________________________________ From: Owen O'Neill To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:09:11 PM Subject: Is anyone on this list a Scientologist? nt nt= no text. .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 21 01:00:25 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:00:25 -0500 Subject: Apollo 11 video + forum apology+ secret space program In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not much up on the subject, but it does seem there is high strangeness about the monn landing(s)/trips, and apparently Neil Armstrong barely ever say anything and that in itself is apparently weird I believe santa claus exists, personally On 7/20/09, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > THere's stuff I saw, publicly available information about things being done > in space that would outrage/inspire one depending on who's or not a > "reactionist" > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM, mike coleman >wrote: > > > Dear cool people (Trev made me send this draft) > > please find it in your hearts to forgive 1 more time for my spewing > > personal > > crud that is off topic > > but here's some more- I'm not quite as negative as it could appear, and I > > do > > believe I get firsthand proof almost daily of "something higher" that's > > good, although it's tricky business and I couldn't find words to say how > > you > > work it > > I haven't looked at this video yet as I'm afraid I'll just get mad not > > seeing "them" along the crater however I would like to add that my own > > research is leaning more and more to the tune of the USA having a secret > > space program and how depressing it would be if our earthly quaranteen is > > us > > and them > > isn't it time the USA at least broke out soemthing cool and nailed > somebody > > evil straight in the forehead?? > > Next, I was about to say that Jarrett is so right that Monster Magnet > isn't > > space rock and that it was just a trick of Wyndorf resembling Brock a > bit, > > (before Christian reposted he got fat) (do we still have a Christian?), > > covering a couple songs, doing HW tunes at soundchaeck, etc , > etc.......and > > then I remembered there's Tab 25 > > I remember I used to go to their shows in the 90's and watching the > screen > > and thinking "this is so rudementarily lame" > > I do enjoy them as a heavy rock act on the odd occasion...... > > Now that we can buy Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev > > Life at the cosmic pufin, there is no more room for Monster Magnet > > something has to go > > that's Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev > > we need money > > money money money money > > nobody will hire us and you have work so give send click buy send click > buy > > money money money > > will shuttup for money > > send click pay Trev and Kev > > > > On 7/17/09, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_sc/us_sci_moon_video > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 21 01:02:32 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:02:32 -0500 Subject: Is anyone on this list a Scientologist? nt In-Reply-To: <873491.96509.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 7/20/09, gary shindler wrote: > > ________________________________ > F > No and what if they are? Well, they might jump up and down on Opra's couch, given the chance?? Billy Sheehan's not lurking here AFAIK From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 21 01:12:16 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:12:16 -0500 Subject: Apollo 11 video + forum apology+ secret space program In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907202200t74e6b16t38c5005389c4d744@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: moon and says yes I've been sloppy night On 7/21/09, mike coleman wrote: > > I'm not much up on the subject, but it does seem there is high strangeness > about the monn landing(s)/trips, and apparently Neil Armstrong barely ever > say anything and that in itself is apparently weird > I believe santa claus exists, personally > > > On 7/20/09, Owen O'Neill wrote: >> >> THere's stuff I saw, publicly available information about things being >> done >> in space that would outrage/inspire one depending on who's or not a >> "reactionist" >> >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM, mike coleman > >wrote: >> >> > Dear cool people (Trev made me send this draft) >> > please find it in your hearts to forgive 1 more time for my spewing >> > personal >> > crud that is off topic >> > but here's some more- I'm not quite as negative as it could appear, and >> I >> > do >> > believe I get firsthand proof almost daily of "something higher" that's >> > good, although it's tricky business and I couldn't find words to say how >> > you >> > work it >> > I haven't looked at this video yet as I'm afraid I'll just get mad not >> > seeing "them" along the crater however I would like to add that my own >> > research is leaning more and more to the tune of the USA having a secret >> > space program and how depressing it would be if our earthly quaranteen >> is >> > us >> > and them >> > isn't it time the USA at least broke out soemthing cool and nailed >> somebody >> > evil straight in the forehead?? >> > Next, I was about to say that Jarrett is so right that Monster Magnet >> isn't >> > space rock and that it was just a trick of Wyndorf resembling Brock a >> bit, >> > (before Christian reposted he got fat) (do we still have a Christian?), >> > covering a couple songs, doing HW tunes at soundchaeck, etc , >> etc.......and >> > then I remembered there's Tab 25 >> > I remember I used to go to their shows in the 90's and watching the >> screen >> > and thinking "this is so rudementarily lame" >> > I do enjoy them as a heavy rock act on the odd occasion...... >> > Now that we can buy Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev >> > Life at the cosmic pufin, there is no more room for Monster Magnet >> > something has to go >> > that's Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev >> > we need money >> > money money money money >> > nobody will hire us and you have work so give send click buy send click >> buy >> > money money money >> > will shuttup for money >> > send click pay Trev and Kev >> > >> > On 7/17/09, gary shindler wrote: >> > > >> > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_sc/us_sci_moon_video >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 21 10:38:43 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:38:43 +0100 Subject: HW: what's happening....Trev and Kev and swooshes In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907141021x47a34e60jd1ae3841c81851ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote: > In all fairness Trev's playing is good as usual and it is a fun CD, and it > honestly does have superb quality, I was amazed at that aspect and I'm not > joking...deep bass, etc Which is impressive, given that the total instrumentation was an acoustic guitar and a pair of synths, one of which mainly played a single note... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Jul 21 10:44:03 2009 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:44:03 +0200 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: <4A64E3C5.9010406@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Ooops -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jerry G Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:38 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy bernhard.pospiech wrote: > :-)))) > > I did only the translation, not the mathematics ;-))) > > > Bernhard > The math was OK, it was your fingers. The original said: *- 50 wurden nach Japan, 50 innerhalb der USA und 25 nach Deutschland verkauft* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 21 11:08:17 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:08:17 -0500 Subject: HW: what's happening....Trev and Kev and swooshes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon, you and me have enough behind us for you to point out bluntly that I'm a bloody idiot, and I was a bit prepared since I always feel like going "gagaga bla bla gagagaga" after I read posts by like say, Paul, but when you post about trev and *KEV, *you have to include the link, like this- You can get it here with credit card or pay pal or money http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html Trev's done a satanic ritual with the list names on anybody who doesn't buy it within one week On 7/21/09, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote: > > In all fairness Trev's playing is good as usual and it is a fun CD, and it >> honestly does have superb quality, I was amazed at that aspect and I'm not >> joking...deep bass, etc >> > > Which is impressive, given that the total instrumentation was an > acoustic guitar and a pair of synths, one of which mainly played a single > note... Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly > opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 22 04:52:37 2009 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:52:37 -0400 Subject: Apollo 11 video + forum apology+ secret space program In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907202200t74e6b16t38c5005389c4d744@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Buzz Aldrin punches a reporter who's harassing him about the fake moon landing!: http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=3844 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:00 AM, mike coleman wrote: > I'm not much up on the subject, but it does seem there is high strangeness > about the monn landing(s)/trips, and apparently Neil Armstrong barely ever > say anything and that in itself is apparently weird > I believe santa claus exists, personally > > > On 7/20/09, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > > > THere's stuff I saw, publicly available information about things being > done > > in space that would outrage/inspire one depending on who's or not a > > "reactionist" > > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM, mike coleman > >wrote: > > > > > Dear cool people (Trev made me send this draft) > > > please find it in your hearts to forgive 1 more time for my spewing > > > personal > > > crud that is off topic > > > but here's some more- I'm not quite as negative as it could appear, and > I > > > do > > > believe I get firsthand proof almost daily of "something higher" that's > > > good, although it's tricky business and I couldn't find words to say > how > > > you > > > work it > > > I haven't looked at this video yet as I'm afraid I'll just get mad not > > > seeing "them" along the crater however I would like to add that my own > > > research is leaning more and more to the tune of the USA having a > secret > > > space program and how depressing it would be if our earthly quaranteen > is > > > us > > > and them > > > isn't it time the USA at least broke out soemthing cool and nailed > > somebody > > > evil straight in the forehead?? > > > Next, I was about to say that Jarrett is so right that Monster Magnet > > isn't > > > space rock and that it was just a trick of Wyndorf resembling Brock a > > bit, > > > (before Christian reposted he got fat) (do we still have a Christian?), > > > covering a couple songs, doing HW tunes at soundchaeck, etc , > > etc.......and > > > then I remembered there's Tab 25 > > > I remember I used to go to their shows in the 90's and watching the > > screen > > > and thinking "this is so rudementarily lame" > > > I do enjoy them as a heavy rock act on the odd occasion...... > > > Now that we can buy Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev > > > Life at the cosmic pufin, there is no more room for Monster Magnet > > > something has to go > > > that's Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev > > > we need money > > > money money money money > > > nobody will hire us and you have work so give send click buy send click > > buy > > > money money money > > > will shuttup for money > > > send click pay Trev and Kev > > > > > > On 7/17/09, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_sc/us_sci_moon_video > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > > > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Jul 22 11:51:22 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:51:22 +0000 Subject: Mike Burro & Friend gig reminder THIS FRIDAY, EWING, NJ 4 bands for 5 bucks!!! Message-ID: complete details about the gig at: http:/www/.prlog.org/10276498.html _________________________________________________________________ Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 22 12:01:22 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:01:22 -0500 Subject: Apollo 11 video + forum apology+ secret space program In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One guy I heard the other night had a good one he said we went but the footage is fake I also heard that Neil Armstrong was the solitrary financial business success compared to the others and that combined with his shyness is why he is so quiet His autograph goes for a thousand BTW, I have listened to that guy on the radio that buzz punched Long ago Eisenhour warned us the public are just a bunch of foolish duped sheep and it is terrifying to me I'm trapped on earth On 7/22/09, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > Buzz Aldrin punches a reporter who's harassing him about the fake moon > landing!: > http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=3844 > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:00 AM, mike coleman >wrote: > > > I'm not much up on the subject, but it does seem there is high > strangeness > > about the monn landing(s)/trips, and apparently Neil Armstrong barely > ever > > say anything and that in itself is apparently weird > > I believe santa claus exists, personally > > > > > > On 7/20/09, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > > > > > THere's stuff I saw, publicly available information about things being > > done > > > in space that would outrage/inspire one depending on who's or not a > > > "reactionist" > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:51 PM, mike coleman > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Dear cool people (Trev made me send this draft) > > > > please find it in your hearts to forgive 1 more time for my spewing > > > > personal > > > > crud that is off topic > > > > but here's some more- I'm not quite as negative as it could appear, > and > > I > > > > do > > > > believe I get firsthand proof almost daily of "something higher" > that's > > > > good, although it's tricky business and I couldn't find words to say > > how > > > > you > > > > work it > > > > I haven't looked at this video yet as I'm afraid I'll just get mad > not > > > > seeing "them" along the crater however I would like to add that my > own > > > > research is leaning more and more to the tune of the USA having a > > secret > > > > space program and how depressing it would be if our earthly > quaranteen > > is > > > > us > > > > and them > > > > isn't it time the USA at least broke out soemthing cool and nailed > > > somebody > > > > evil straight in the forehead?? > > > > Next, I was about to say that Jarrett is so right that Monster Magnet > > > isn't > > > > space rock and that it was just a trick of Wyndorf resembling Brock a > > > bit, > > > > (before Christian reposted he got fat) (do we still have a > Christian?), > > > > covering a couple songs, doing HW tunes at soundchaeck, etc , > > > etc.......and > > > > then I remembered there's Tab 25 > > > > I remember I used to go to their shows in the 90's and watching the > > > screen > > > > and thinking "this is so rudementarily lame" > > > > I do enjoy them as a heavy rock act on the odd occasion...... > > > > Now that we can buy Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and > Kev > > > > Life at the cosmic pufin, there is no more room for Monster Magnet > > > > something has to go > > > > that's Trev and Kev Trev and Kev Trev and Kev > > > > we need money > > > > money money money money > > > > nobody will hire us and you have work so give send click buy send > click > > > buy > > > > money money money > > > > will shuttup for money > > > > send click pay Trev and Kev > > > > > > > > On 7/17/09, gary shindler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_sc/us_sci_moon_video > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > > > > > > > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 22 12:12:52 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:12:52 +0100 Subject: Apollo 11 video + forum apology+ secret space program In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:01:22 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 22 12:16:25 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:16:25 -0500 Subject: Mike Burro & Friend gig reminder THIS FRIDAY, EWING, NJ 4 bands for 5 bucks!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Get the Jersey Devil to be onstage at your gigs and they will come in droves from all over : -) On 7/22/09, Burro Mike wrote: > > complete details about the gig at: > http:/www/.prlog.org/10276498.html > _________________________________________________________________ > Bing? brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it > now. > > http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 22 12:26:24 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:26:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: Neil Merryweather Message-ID: Dear forum A friend of mine who is just about 60 going on 6 is doing a little experimenting, and shopping by album cover (primarily, in this case) rather than by music He decided this artist was worth checking out and has bought "Space Rangers"and "Kryptonite" I will inherit one of these since it is a cut-out anyway, I must admit I am (a bit) interested by what I have read any comments?? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 22 12:38:32 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:38:32 -0500 Subject: (was): Apollo 11 video + now off Message-ID: whoda thunkit they're sentient frikin' golf balls, just sitting up there doing god knows what thanks for this Mike On 7/22/09, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > > One guy I heard the other night had a good one > > he said we went but the footage is fake > > Apollo 11 did land on the Moon. However, they didn't come from Earth, > but from Zeta Reticuli III. Neil Armstrong cannot appear in public very > often because he was hit by a golf ball on The Moon and this prevents > him from keeping his shapeshifting from his Lizard form very long. > > Really. I have proof! > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 22 12:47:04 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:47:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: yet more myspace homebrew Message-ID: Of late, I must admit that my (fairly limited) musical ambitions have been directed more towards trying to teach myself about mixing and suchlike than they have been towards recording new material. Well, we bedroom musicians have to do it all, after all -- can't just slap down some tracks and hope the producer will make you sound good .... ;) So though genuinely new output borders on the non-existent, I've nevertheless uploaded a few new mixes to my MySpace page: . Some really are just remixes, like the new mix of "Afterburner -- though I think the new mix sounds reasonably decent compared to older versions. Some are demos and partial demos that I'm just putting out there for the first time (because, what the heck, I've been slow to create completed versions! :)) like "Tam Lin" and "Anvil of Ice". (OK, Jon Jarrett has heard earlier versions of "Anvil of Ice" and, I think, even attempted to come up with some lyrics for it, though I don't recall where they've got to ...). There's also a nice comment on my cover of "Hassan I Sabha" from Alan Davey's cousin and partner in Gunslinger, Nigel Potter (in his guise as Aggressor UK). I think that's not my latest mix of that up there, but, yeah, it still sounds all right. :) Anyway, enjoy -- in so far as that's possible! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 22 15:13:43 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:13:43 +0100 Subject: Trev and Kev debut album FLOPS In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907220916v5db07ef2s573f87d5d31b52f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, It's a total flop. Only purchased by the High Blessed alone...Those who would stand out against the grain...Those who think and do not follow...Those who will man the final redout...Those who are not sheep. Thank You As to the rest...You can still get it here. Sheep need not apply http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html Kevin Ellis has pulled out of the Big Green Gathering at the last minute...typical house husband, leaving me no alternative but to play an acoustic duo set with the Mighty Thunder Rider. I'll make him play flute only. It doesn't rain but it pours No one loves me Judge Trev From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 22 16:07:39 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:07:39 +0000 Subject: Aurora Message-ID: The new Litmus album "Aurora" will be released on Metal Blade (USA and Canada) and Rise Above Records (rest of the world) on August 17th.? It will be available on single CD, double black vinyl, double blue vinyl, and double purple vinyl (the latter two including a poster and a cloth patch).? All vinyl versions feature an etched fourth side. The CD version is available to pre-order from the Litmus online shop (http://www.litmusmusic.co.uk/onlineshop.html). Colin From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 00:17:37 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:17:37 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Trev and Kev debut album " FLOPS" Message-ID: > > > No one loves me > Judge Trev Me either, but in my case I earned it. We must also remember people are busy scrambling for their cheese, of which the packaging is shrinking and prices inflating, they are too busy jumping through hoops so it's not ALL their fault we shrivel into death Anyway, it's too soon to put the "Flops" album out, you're flooding the market (and it will actually not be your debut) hang in there, and for a start, tell everyone you know to do this one simple thing. Every time you see hear or read something and it says "scientists" simply replace that word with the following: "you will not program me with cattle-feed" You see, scientists tend to be the biggest morons of all, bending over backwards to solve alien questions with applied human education Human beings are fascinating for sure, and capable of remarkable intelligence but there's above and beyond........ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 00:31:50 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:31:50 -0500 Subject: Aurora In-Reply-To: <573795.288.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That's cool that you're overseeing this stuff Colin On 7/22/09, Colin Allen wrote: > > The new Litmus album "Aurora" will be released on Metal Blade (USA and > Canada) and Rise Above Records (rest of the world) on August 17th. It will > be available on single CD, double black vinyl, double blue vinyl, and double > purple vinyl (the latter two including a poster and a cloth patch). All > vinyl versions feature an etched fourth side. > > The CD version is available to pre-order from the Litmus online shop ( > http://www.litmusmusic.co.uk/onlineshop.html). > > Colin > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 01:08:08 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:08:08 -0500 Subject: (WAY WAY OFF) the ironic delight and the deadly danger Message-ID: It's like this I'm an alien that came to earth to learn some of the most painful lessons a soul could imagine The drug LSD was discovered around the same timelines as the advent of nuclear technology There was a reason for this Much of it located within Hawkwind recordings I am going to continue hammering away at the PTB (largely with Doremi Fasol Latido), and it's looking like it won't be much longer until the cover-up falls apart The greatest lie on all of mankind is the alien secret and I am not speaking about my fellow mexican immigrants The rich controlling elite bombard the human race with a bunch of white noise pollution They know it's crumbling and this is an extremely dangerous time and it's very likely that world war 3 is in the making along with god-knows-what else People simply must understand that your most beloved and charished belief systems and (ducking) religious beliefs are the very thing that make you controllable and will likely be THE END OF YOU PLEASE WAKE UP and WAKE UP YESTERDAY I am not going to continue to preach on the forum, don't worry as I go I site one simple thing one need look no further (but of course I could give daily examples for the remainder of my life) than the 1964 soccorro new mexico landing with occupants It happened and it was as real as your last orgasm We're aliens, we're here, and we're fucking with you DEAL WITH IT From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu Jul 23 01:27:13 2009 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:27:13 +0200 Subject: HW: Green Man Festival- Aug 23rd Message-ID: Hawkwind to appear at Green Man Festival In what is becoming an increasingly busy summer we can now confirm that Hawkwind will be playing the Green Man festival in Wales on the 23rd August. as part of 11 hours of "Space Music", for more details see below or visit the festival's own web site by clicking here. On Sunday night in the Far Out Tent Amorphous Androgynous will be performing as a band in their own right as well as curating 11 hours of Monstrous Psychedelic Bubble cosmic space music. Bands will include legendary space rockers Hawkwind, beautiful folk from the mellifluously voiced Alisha Sufit (of 70s MAGIC CARPET fame ), The Yellow Moon Band hot off the space launch pads of last year's album 'Travels Into Several Remote Nations Of The World". Nick Nicely will enthrall with his colour saturated universe of psychedelic songs and Cranium Pie will cover the space-prog end of the MPB spectrum, with Amorphous Androgynous themselves covering all sonic dimensions in between. On the DJ front expect to hear a spectrum illuminated by psychedelic, funkoid infused progtronica, to pagan love vibrations and Indian sitar cover versions. Basically expect the unexpected to liberate your mind, soul and your feet from Andy Votel and the Monstrous Psychedelic impresario himself Gaz Cobain! With lighting by the Bardo States it'll be an 11 hr visual and sonic feast! Anyone going?? Sounds interesting... Pity I don't arrive in England until the 26th.... Scott ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu Jul 23 07:18:48 2009 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:18:48 +0200 Subject: Aurora Message-ID: Hello I just pre-ordered the double vinyl with the poster, patch, etc.. can't wait... Rise Above rip us all off though with the postage. 18? for postage for Europe for 2 double vinyl records is too much. Costs them less than half I guess...... Not happy about this.... Good luck Litmus..... scott ObCD: Alan Davey- Eclectic Devils (Pretty damn cool. Simon House alone makes this worth getting. IT has been awhile since he played such amazing spacey stuff) From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 11:01:30 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:01:30 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Trev and Kev debut album " FLOPS" In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907222117g49417015t409556d8c3778895@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Shuttup...It's mainly your fault that it's a flop ...and posts about me aren't OFF..i'm a hawkwind songwriter so there...and i play with the mighty thunder rider my next project is gonna be "Judge Trev plays Country"...that will be OFF -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:17 AM To: Subject: (OFF) Trev and Kev debut album " FLOPS" >> >> >> No one loves me >> Judge Trev > > > Me either, but in my case I earned it. We must also remember people are > busy > scrambling for their cheese, of which the packaging is shrinking and > prices > inflating, they are too busy jumping through hoops so it's not ALL their > fault we shrivel into death > Anyway, it's too soon to put the "Flops" album out, you're flooding the > market (and it will actually not be your debut) > hang in there, and for a start, tell everyone you know to do this one > simple thing. Every time you see hear or read something and it says > "scientists" simply replace that word with the following: "you will not > program me with cattle-feed" > You see, scientists tend to be the biggest morons of all, bending over > backwards to solve alien questions with applied human education > Human beings are fascinating for sure, and capable of remarkable > intelligence but there's above and beyond........ > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 11:02:28 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:02:28 +0100 Subject: Aurora In-Reply-To: <573795.288.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <17d80c610907222131y71782581le1ccfcb3b09b2464@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: lick lick lick lick lick lick how pathetic -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:31 AM To: Subject: Re: Aurora > That's cool that you're overseeing this stuff Colin > > On 7/22/09, Colin Allen wrote: >> >> The new Litmus album "Aurora" will be released on Metal Blade (USA and >> Canada) and Rise Above Records (rest of the world) on August 17th. It >> will >> be available on single CD, double black vinyl, double blue vinyl, and >> double >> purple vinyl (the latter two including a poster and a cloth patch). All >> vinyl versions feature an etched fourth side. >> >> The CD version is available to pre-order from the Litmus online shop ( >> http://www.litmusmusic.co.uk/onlineshop.html). >> >> Colin >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 11:08:04 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:08:04 +0100 Subject: Aurora In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922D3F45126@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: real festival music are much much cheaper, because we are human and not a machine or faceless greedy exploiting corporation run by real musicians and hawkwind songwriter the real thing buy buy buy buy don't be hoodwinked by the forces of evil Discover the UK Green Festival scene REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers -------------------------------------------------- From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:18 PM To: Subject: Re: Aurora > Hello > > I just pre-ordered the double vinyl with the poster, patch, etc.. can't wait... Rise Above rip us all off though with the postage. 18? for postage for Europe for 2 double vinyl records is too much. Costs them less than half I guess...... Not happy about this.... > > Good luck Litmus..... > > scott > > ObCD: Alan Davey- Eclectic Devils (Pretty damn cool. Simon House alone makes this worth getting. IT has been awhile since he played such amazing spacey stuff) > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 12:51:13 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:51:13 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Trev Message-ID: On 7/23/09, trev wrote: > > ...and posts about me aren't OFF It largely wasn't about you, and I was seperating your personal life (yawn) from the professional one if not simply grabbing the first post lacking any conctent that I could grab and abusing it SUCKER!!!!! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 13:05:24 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:05:24 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Re: Aurora Message-ID: On 7/23/09, trev wrote: > > lick lick lick lick lick lick > how pathetic Is it really though, coming from me, who's never heard even one note of Litmus and do you know Scott Heller very well and wasn't this risky of you since he might have been offended and the world might get treated to a DVD of you getting bashed up at a show Now there's one I could convert to NTSC From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 23 15:43:19 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:43:19 +0000 Subject: Aurora Message-ID: That does seem rather high! --- On Thu, 23/7/09, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: Re: Aurora To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 12:18 PM Hello I just pre-ordered the double vinyl with the poster, patch, etc.. can't wait... Rise Above rip us all off though with the postage. 18? for postage for Europe for 2 double vinyl records is too much. Costs them less than half I guess...... Not happy about this.... Good luck Litmus..... scott ObCD: Alan Davey- Eclectic Devils (Pretty damn cool. Simon House alone makes this worth getting. IT has been awhile since he played such amazing spacey stuff) From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 15:45:57 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:45:57 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Trev In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907230951i6c940e40ta75168a58dc4df83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: right...killing starts now -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:51 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF) Trev > On 7/23/09, trev wrote: >> >> ...and posts about me aren't OFF > > > It largely wasn't about you, and I was seperating your personal life > (yawn) > from the professional one if not simply grabbing the first post lacking > any > conctent that I could grab and abusing it > SUCKER!!!!! > From stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Thu Jul 23 15:53:42 2009 From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM (stevepxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:53:42 -0400 Subject: Aurora In-Reply-To: <318040.3139.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It is extremely high.Scott was right in calling it a rip-off. I sent a 12" LP to Denmark today at a cost of ?7.27, and that was as an Airsure Small Packet which can be tracked and needs a signature. ?18.00 is way too much. Steve. -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:43 Subject: Re: Aurora That does seem rather high! --- On Thu, 23/7/09, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: Re: Aurora To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 12:18 PM Hello I just pre-ordered the double vinyl with the poster, patch, etc.. can't wait... Rise Above rip us all off though with the postage. 18? for postage for Europe for 2 double vinyl records is too much. Costs them less than half I guess...... Not happy about this.... Good luck Litmus..... scott ObCD: Alan Davey- Eclectic Devils (Pretty damn cool. Simon House alone makes this worth getting. IT has been awhile since he played such amazing spacey stuff) ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 23 16:16:01 2009 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:16:01 +0000 Subject: Aurora Message-ID: I just tried the Rise Above site and could not get the European shipping up to ?18.00; it came out as ?13.50 for Europe and ?18.00 for the rest of the world. Having said that, both still seem rather high. Colin --- On Thu, 23/7/09, stevepxr5 at AOL.COM wrote: From: stevepxr5 at AOL.COM Subject: Re: Aurora To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 8:53 PM It is extremely high.Scott was right in calling it a rip-off. I sent a 12" LP to Denmark today at a cost of ?7.27, and that was as an Airsure Small Packet which can be tracked and needs a signature. ?18.00 is way too much. Steve. -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:43 Subject: Re: Aurora That does seem rather high! --- On Thu, 23/7/09, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: Re: Aurora To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 23 July, 2009, 12:18 PM Hello I just pre-ordered the double vinyl with the poster, patch, etc.. can't wait... Rise Above rip us all off though with the postage. 18? for postage for Europe for 2 double vinyl records is too much. Costs them less than half I guess...... Not happy about this.... Good luck Litmus..... scott ObCD: Alan Davey- Eclectic Devils (Pretty damn cool. Simon House alone makes this worth getting. IT has been awhile since he played such amazing spacey stuff) ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 17:16:16 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:16:16 +0100 Subject: if you don't buy it..i'm gonna kill meself In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907220916v5db07ef2s573f87d5d31b52f1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:13 PM To: Subject: Trev and Kev debut album FLOPS > Yes, It's a total flop. Only purchased by the High Blessed alone...and bootleggers of course...Those who would stand out against the grain...Those who think and do not follow...Those who will man the final redout...Those who are not sheep. Thank You > > As to the rest...You can still get it here. Sheep need not apply http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > > Im playing here on Saturday http://www.remotegoat.co.uk/event_view.php?uid=82936 an anti war gig...i'm gonna play war songs > > Judge Flop> From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Thu Jul 23 19:42:51 2009 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (mark) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:42:51 +0100 Subject: HW:Porchester Show 29/08/09 - 30 tickets Message-ID: A small number of tickets will go on sale on Monday 27th July through Seetickets. See second item on the blog list for details. http://blogs.myspace.com/hawkwindofficial Please note that 30 production tickets will go on sale this coming Monday, 27th July for the 40th Anniversary show at Porchester Hall on Saturday 29th August, these will be available through seetickets - Hope that is of help to any of you who have not as yet got tickets for this event www.seetickets.com Mark From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 19:43:24 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:43:24 -0500 Subject: if you don't buy it..i'm gonna kill meself In-Reply-To: Message-ID: no you're not, your going into the studio with Nicholas to record some deadly mexicali space metal (I mean you ARE for ME right?) I'll be in touch soon off-list On 7/23/09, trev wrote: > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "trev" > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:13 PM > To: > > Subject: Trev and Kev debut album FLOPS > > > Yes, It's a total flop. Only purchased by the High Blessed alone...and > bootleggers of course...Those who would stand out against the grain...Those > who think and do not follow...Those who will man the final redout...Those > who are not sheep. Thank You > > > > As to the rest...You can still get it here. Sheep need not apply > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > > > > Im playing here on Saturday > http://www.remotegoat.co.uk/event_view.php?uid=82936 > an anti war gig...i'm gonna play war songs > > > > Judge Flop> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 23 20:56:48 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:56:48 +0100 Subject: if you don't buy it..i'm gonna kill meself In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907220916v5db07ef2s573f87d5d31b52f1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610907231643v8c4a201ub16fe05d6f057f8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: before i go...i'm gonna kill you first -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:43 AM To: Subject: Re: if you don't buy it..i'm gonna kill meself > no you're not, your going into the studio with Nicholas to record some > deadly mexicali space metal (I mean you ARE for ME right?) > I'll be in touch soon off-list > > > On 7/23/09, trev wrote: >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "trev" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:13 PM >> To: >> >> Subject: Trev and Kev debut album FLOPS >> >> > Yes, It's a total flop. Only purchased by the High Blessed alone...and >> bootleggers of course...Those who would stand out against the >> grain...Those >> who think and do not follow...Those who will man the final redout...Those >> who are not sheep. Thank You >> > >> > As to the rest...You can still get it here. Sheep need not apply >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html >> > >> > Im playing here on Saturday >> http://www.remotegoat.co.uk/event_view.php?uid=82936 >> an anti war gig...i'm gonna play war songs >> > >> > Judge Flop> >> > From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Fri Jul 24 07:15:29 2009 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:15:29 +0200 Subject: aurora Message-ID: One reason the shipping was 18? is as I said it was two double records (I also ordered the limited edition Church of Misery). So it is 4 records but still 18? is way too much. I will look at the postage stamp and I bet it is under 10? for them to ship it here. We will see in late August...... Can't wait to hear it. Planetfall was in my top 10 in 2007. Scott ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Fri Jul 24 17:48:14 2009 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:48:14 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Does Not Care & Lo Finest Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JULY 24, 2009: NEW RADIO SHOWS: SPACE DOES NOT CARE and LO FINEST I've uploaded new shows from Space Does Not Care (show #18), and Lo Finest (show #16). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in both streaming and download editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Space Does Not Care (show #18) Chuck Rosenberg did a radio show dubbed "Space Does Not Care" from 1999-2003 at KUCR out of Riverside, CA, which streamed on-line for most of that time. The format of the new online version of Space Does Not Care is secured by Chuck under the umbrella of Psych/Space/Kraut/Electro/Indie/Folk/Noise-rock. VERDE - "Yhdysputki" (from Karmes - Karkia Mistika) CIRCLE - "Ed-Visio/Scoop/Kyberia" (from Meronia - Ektro) CHUCK SPEAKS GLANDS OF EXTERNAL SECRETION - "Space Needle/Something Bad In Front Of Me/Hallucinatory Companion" (from Northern Exposure Will Be Right Back - Starlight Furniture Co) BARBARA MANNING - "Make It Go Away/Straw Man" (from One Perfect Green Blanket/Lately I Keep Scissors - Heyday) JETTISON SLINKY - "Idyll Acid Arbor" (from The Only Song We Know - Evander) DEFENDER - "Orangutans and Orphanages" (unreleased demo) CHUCK SPEAKS THE ORB - "Montagne D'Or " (from Orbus Terrarum - Island) "Mystery Tune" CHROME - "New Age" (from Chrome Box - Cleopatra) CHROMOSOME DAMAGE - "Radio Noir" (from ST'd - Fuzzy Portal) THE ORB - "Eros" (from Orblivion - Island) CHUCK SPEAKS ENORMOUS - "Fly Low Dragonfl (from Attentionsbahn - Sona) IGRA STAKLENIH PERLI - "Putovanje U Plavo " (from ST'd) F/i - "Boots Of Ascension" (from V/A Space Box - Cleopatra) SPIRITS BURNING - "Smart Messages In the Sand/Speak To the Wind (from New Worlds By Design - Musea/Gazul) CHUCK SPEAKS KOPECKY - "Autumn Swirl" (from Orion - M.A.C.E.) SENDELICA - "The Girl From the Future" (from The Girl From the Future... - R.A.I.G.) DARXTAR - "Breath Messages" (from HawXtar - SBM CD-R) MANUAL - "Seleva" (from V/A Little Darla Has a Treat For You Vol. 21 - Darla) CHUCK SPEAKS ECHOBOY - "Innocent, Clueless and Young" (from Elektrique Soul Psymphonie - First Time) Lo Finest (show #16) Lo Finest is a program dedicated to the appreciation of homemade recordings that were made and distributed on cassette tapes during the 1980s and 90s, hosted by veteran home recording artist Charles Rice Goff III. Buzzsaw - "Tale Of A Tape" (excerpt from very limited edition cassette, unofficial release) Alien Planetscapes - "Miles Riff" (From Electronic Cottage Volume I) Rotcod Zzaj - "No Wage Ballet" (From Electronic Cottage Volume I) Minoy - "Technostress" (From Electronic Cottage Volume I) 60 Cycle Hum - "November, 1986" (from Connection) Herd Of The Ether Space - "In The Cold Sunlight" (from Other Than Random Modulation) Deaf Lions - (2 of 26 pieces from Copia) Astro Epos - (beginning section from Revelation) Bene Gesserit - "Little Lady" (from Live In Belgium & Holland) Bene Gesserit - "Erg Habbania" (from Live In Belgium & Holland) De Fabriek - "Emulate" (from Elegy 3) Yggdrasil - "Free Form Mantra" (from Elegy 3) http://Aural-Innovations.com From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Fri Jul 24 18:50:32 2009 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:50:32 -0400 Subject: Do you know of a company called Offshore Distributions or Offshore Direct? Message-ID: Does anyone know of a company called Offshore Distributions, or Offshore Direct? David Unlimbo of the band Unlimbo, and currently in Akahum, contacted me after seeing copies of the "Prahna Fish" CD by Unlimbo for sale for ?40 on Amazon. The problem is that the original record label - Polygraph Records - has been changed to Aural Innovations. In addition, to quote David, "To make things even more criminal they have changed the barcode - obviously by putting their own sticker over mine - which makes the situation property theft." Aural Innovations has NEVER been a label. Whoever these idiots are they obviously know who I am, and why they chose Aural Innovations to stick on there as the label is completely beyond me. But I've worked too hard for too many years supporting bands to have my reputation tarnished by nonsense like this. David doesn't suspect me of any wrongdoing and we're working together to try and figure out who these people are. The Amazon listing is at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0000276BB/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&q id=1248307025&sr=8-1&condition=new You won't see the image of the CD because after David complained Amazon removed it, though they did not remove the listing. David referred to the company as Offshore Distributions, but on Amazon is lists them as offshoredirect If anyone has any clue at all who these people might be I'd be grateful if you would contact me off list. The Unlimbo CD is underground and firmly in the Space Rock realm, so whoever these people are I'm guessing they are... if not among us... not far away. Any assistance appreciated! Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio Aural-Innovations.com From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Jul 24 18:56:08 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:56:08 -0500 Subject: Off: Free & Music & Chris Anderson Message-ID: Wired has an excerpt from the new Chris Anderson book (FREE: The Future of a Radical Price) which is fun reading, particularly the bits about piracy and marketing and money-making in the Chinese and Brazilian music biz. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Jul 25 10:29:42 2009 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:29:42 +0000 Subject: setlist: Mike Burro & Friend: July 24th All Call Inn: Ewing, NJ Message-ID: Although it was only about a 30 minute set, Jeff and I were in fine form for this one. We liked this venue too..Cheers! Mike Hymie the Winey Spinning Wheel Blues ( I'm not your ) Steppin Stone Uranium Zone Space is Deep> Hurry On Sundown The Last Time Mike Burro: guitar/vocals/tamborine Jeff Berry: bass/backing vocals http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 PS: Jeff, sorry to tell you this, but there's no tape from this show. I pushed record, but it was the wrong side. Instead of a whole empty side, it was the end of side 1..next time mate!! _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Jul 26 09:57:48 2009 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:57:48 +0100 Subject: Do you know of a company called Offshore Distributions or Offshore Direct? Message-ID: Any point getting in touch with Amazon and asking them for contact details for these folk? If Amazon are acting as distributors they ought to have some info - maybe? good luck Jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Kranitz" To: Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:50 PM Subject: Do you know of a company called Offshore Distributions or Offshore Direct? Does anyone know of a company called Offshore Distributions, or Offshore Direct? David Unlimbo of the band Unlimbo, and currently in Akahum, contacted me after seeing copies of the "Prahna Fish" CD by Unlimbo for sale for ?40 on Amazon. The problem is that the original record label - Polygraph Records - has been changed to Aural Innovations. In addition, to quote David, "To make things even more criminal they have changed the barcode - obviously by putting their own sticker over mine - which makes the situation property theft." Aural Innovations has NEVER been a label. Whoever these idiots are they obviously know who I am, and why they chose Aural Innovations to stick on there as the label is completely beyond me. But I've worked too hard for too many years supporting bands to have my reputation tarnished by nonsense like this. David doesn't suspect me of any wrongdoing and we're working together to try and figure out who these people are. The Amazon listing is at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0000276BB/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&q id=1248307025&sr=8-1&condition=new You won't see the image of the CD because after David complained Amazon removed it, though they did not remove the listing. David referred to the company as Offshore Distributions, but on Amazon is lists them as offshoredirect If anyone has any clue at all who these people might be I'd be grateful if you would contact me off list. The Unlimbo CD is underground and firmly in the Space Rock realm, so whoever these people are I'm guessing they are... if not among us... not far away. Any assistance appreciated! Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio Aural-Innovations.com From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Jul 26 14:14:22 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:14:22 -0500 Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? Message-ID: Does anyone have a convenient list of recording/remix/release dates for the material on the _Mighty Hawkwind Classics_ compilation? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Jul 26 15:24:12 2009 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:24:12 EDT Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/26/2009 1:16:10 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time, cea at CARLAZ.COM writes: Does anyone have a convenient list of recording/remix/release dates for the material on the _Mighty Hawkwind Classics_ compilation? For Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 (from Andrew Dawson's Hawkwind Files) _http://home.clara.net/adawson/mighty.html_ (http://home.clara.net/adawson/mighty.html) For the individual realeases: Hawkwind Zoo EP _http://home.clara.net/adawson/singles/hawk-zoo.html_ (http://home.clara.net/adawson/singles/hawk-zoo.html) Motorhead/Valium 10 _http://home.clara.net/adawson/singles/motorhe2.html_ (http://home.clara.net/adawson/singles/motorhe2.html) Earth Ritual Preview EP _http://home.clara.net/adawson/singles/earthrit.html_ (http://home.clara.net/adawson/singles/earthrit.html) Sonic Assassins EP _http://home.clara.net/adawson/singles/sonic1.html_ (http://home.clara.net/adawson/singles/sonic1.html) Joe **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgI D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) From youless at COX.NET Sun Jul 26 15:24:48 2009 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:24:48 -0400 Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? Message-ID: I garnered this from the Hawkwind Codex, with release dates from the Hawkwind Files website (http://home.clara.net/adawson/index.html): Death Trap - 12" Sonic Assassins EP version, recorded 23/12/77 at Queen's Hall, Barnstaple, released Nov 1981 Dragons & Fables - from the Earth Ritual EP, released March 1984 Dream Dancers - from the Earth Ritual EP, released March 1984 Free Fall - 12" Sonic Assassins EP version, recorded 23/12/77 at Queen's Hall, Barnstaple, released Nov 1981 Green Finned Demon - from the Earth Ritual EP, released March 1984 Hurry On Sundown - from the Hawkwind Zoo 12" EP (recorded 1970? released by Flicknife May 1981) Kings Of Speed - from the Hawkwind Zoo 12" EP (instrumental version recorded 1975/6 released by Flicknife May 1981) Motorhead - from the July 1981 Flicknife Motorhead/Valium 10 single, recorded 1975 as Dave's remix featuring just him, Alan Powell and Lemmy Night Of The Hawks - from the Earth Ritual EP, released March 1984 Over The Top - 12" Sonic Assassins EP version, recorded 23/12/77 at Queen's Hall, Barnstaple, released Nov 1981 Sweet Mistress Of Pain - from the Hawkwind Zoo 12" EP (recorded 1970? released by Flicknife May 1981) Valium Ten - from the July 1981 Flicknife Motorhead/Valium single. Recorded by the rump of the Hawklords, 1979 Hope that helps! Steve From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Jul 26 18:02:56 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:02:56 -0500 Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Fantastic! Thanks to both of you! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Mon Jul 27 05:42:04 2009 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:42:04 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 26 Jul 2009 to 27 Jul 2009 (#2009-205) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Beyond pulling the CD image, which shows the offending evidence, Amazon has, so far anyway, been less than cooperative. So I thought I'd take a shot and see if anyone might know who these people are. --------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:57:48 +0100 From: Jill Strobridge Subject: Re: Do you know of a company called Offshore Distributions or Offshore Direct? Any point getting in touch with Amazon and asking them for contact details for these folk? If Amazon are acting as distributors they ought to have some info - maybe? good luck Jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Kranitz" To: Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:50 PM Subject: Do you know of a company called Offshore Distributions or Offshore Direct? Does anyone know of a company called Offshore Distributions, or Offshore Direct? David Unlimbo of the band Unlimbo, and currently in Akahum, contacted me after seeing copies of the "Prahna Fish" CD by Unlimbo for sale for ?40 on Amazon. The problem is that the original record label - Polygraph Records - has been changed to Aural Innovations. In addition, to quote David, "To make things even more criminal they have changed the barcode - obviously by putting their own sticker over mine - which makes the situation property theft." Aural Innovations has NEVER been a label. Whoever these idiots are they obviously know who I am, and why they chose Aural Innovations to stick on there as the label is completely beyond me. But I've worked too hard for too many years supporting bands to have my reputation tarnished by nonsense like this. David doesn't suspect me of any wrongdoing and we're working together to try and figure out who these people are. The Amazon listing is at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0000276BB/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&q id=1248307025&sr=8-1&condition=new You won't see the image of the CD because after David complained Amazon removed it, though they did not remove the listing. David referred to the company as Offshore Distributions, but on Amazon is lists them as offshoredirect If anyone has any clue at all who these people might be I'd be grateful if you would contact me off list. The Unlimbo CD is underground and firmly in the Space Rock realm, so whoever these people are I'm guessing they are... if not among us... not far away. Any assistance appreciated! Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio Aural-Innovations.com From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 27 07:38:32 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:38:32 -0700 Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? Message-ID: Carl, are you telling me that you don't keep a recent copy of the Hawkwind Codex around for easy reference?! ObSheesh: Sheesh! Steve :) -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Sunday, Jul 26, 2009 2:18 pm Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Does anyone have a convenient list of recording/remix/release dates for the material on the _Mighty Hawkwind Classics_ compilation? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 27 07:42:21 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:42:21 -0700 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 26 Jul 2009 to 27 Jul 2009 (#2009-205) Message-ID: Their lawyers will keep them from being helpful - they'll be in full CYA mode out of concern for being nabbed as accessories. They don't want to help you, they just want this problem to go away. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kranitz Date: Monday, Jul 27, 2009 5:45 am Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 26 Jul 2009 to 27 Jul 2009 (#2009-205) To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Beyond pulling the CD image, which shows the offending evidence, Amazon has, so far anyway, been less than cooperative. So I thought I'd take a shot and see if anyone might know who these people are. --------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:57:48 +0100 From: Jill Strobridge Subject: Re: Do you know of a company called Offshore Distributions or Offshore Direct? Any point getting in touch with Amazon and asking them for contact details for these folk? If Amazon are acting as distributors they ought to have some info - maybe? good luck Jill =============================================Jill Strobridge =============================================----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Kranitz" To: Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:50 PM Subject: Do you know of a company called Offshore Distributions or Offshore Direct? Does anyone know of a company called Offshore Distributions, or Offshore Direct? David Unlimbo of the band Unlimbo, and currently in Akahum, contacted me after seeing copies of the "Prahna Fish" CD by Unlimbo for sale for ?40 on Amazon. The problem is that the original record label - Polygraph Records - has been changed to Aural Innovations. In addition, to quote David, "To make things even more criminal they have changed the barcode - obviously by putting their own sticker over mine - which makes the situation property theft." Aural Innovations has NEVER been a label. Whoever these idiots are they obviously know who I am, and why they chose Aural Innovations to stick on there as the label is completely beyond me. But I've worked too hard for too many years supporting bands to have my reputation tarnished by nonsense like this. David doesn't suspect me of any wrongdoing and we're working together to try and figure out who these people are. The Amazon listing is at: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0000276BB/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&q id48307025&sr=8-1&condition=new You won't see the image of the CD because after David complained Amazon removed it, though they did From arjanh at DEHULST.NL Mon Jul 27 08:00:45 2009 From: arjanh at DEHULST.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:00:45 +0200 Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? In-Reply-To: <3331525114.5041064@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:38:32 -0700, Steve wrote > Carl, are you telling me that you don't keep a recent copy of the > Hawkwind Codex around for easy reference?! Well, offline copies are a major source for SNAFUs... Granted, the data already in the Codex is not likely to change, so the risk you're taking when storing and using an offline copy is having incomplete data. YMMV whether that is a bad thing or not. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jul 27 08:41:51 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:41:51 -0500 Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? In-Reply-To: <20090727115442.M54077@dehulst.nl> Message-ID: On 27 Jul 2009, at 07:00 , Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:38:32 -0700, Steve wrote >> Carl, are you telling me that you don't keep a recent copy of the >> Hawkwind Codex around for easy reference?! > > Well, offline copies are a major source for SNAFUs... > Granted, the data already in the Codex is not likely to change, so > the risk > you're taking when storing and using an offline copy is having > incomplete > data. YMMV whether that is a bad thing or not. ;) Actually, I zoomed off to the first online copy of the codex that Google found me to check, but whatever version it was was organized principally by song, noting on which albums the songs appeared. Perhaps all the Codex versions are organized like that -- it's a sensible approach to Hawkwindiana, after all. However, I was wondering whether anyone already had the data conveniently collected for the specific album so I wouldn't have to trawl about through the Codex (and do actual _work_ ;)). Luckily, they did! :) Hmm, maybe the Codex needs to become a database, cross-searchable to pull different sets of data .... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 27 08:51:19 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:51:19 -0700 Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? Message-ID: That's why I say recent copy. I make sure to refresh mine every so often. Also I don't care so much about the endless slew of repackaged compilations or the 15 new covers that have been slapped on Yuri Gagarin :) so having a version that's even a year or two out of date is usually good enough for my purposes... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Arjan Hulsebos Date: Monday, Jul 27, 2009 8:08 am Subject: Re: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:38:32 -0700, Steve wrote Carl, are you telling me that you don't keep a recent copy of the Hawkwind Codex around for easy reference?! Well, offline copies are a major source for SNAFUs... Granted, the data already in the Codex is not likely to change, so the risk you're taking when storing and using an offline copy is having incomplete data. YMMV whether that is a bad thing or not. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From arjanh at DEHULST.NL Mon Jul 27 09:02:42 2009 From: arjanh at DEHULST.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:02:42 +0200 Subject: Mighty Hawkwind Classics details? In-Reply-To: <887F8055-0CB2-4284-B490-58AE9E0925EF@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:41:51 -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote > Hmm, maybe the Codex needs to become a database, cross-searchable to > pull different sets of data .... :) That might be an option, but depends on whether you have access to a database server, and/or whether you can run scripts on the web server. Another option would be XML, and XSLT to transform the content into web pages. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jul 27 10:49:18 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:49:18 +0100 Subject: Teapots in Space In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907171450l2fcf234mad1ca0430b8b37fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote: > oh come on, not even an ayahuasca experience could erase the truth that > astronomers are just more quarantined humans to "them", and that they only > risk earth to steal garden gnomes with American accents....and water Perhaps they're after tea. Do you know of any *other* planet where it grows? Eh? You see, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 27 11:30:23 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:30:23 +0100 Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <200907171615.n6HGFe5C008781@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> <17d80c610907171450l2fcf234mad1ca0430b8b37fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Look at this. Real festival Music are going to war and we call upon the legions of the Blessed to mobilize. Under Real Festival Music News section http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/welcome.html Trev Discover the UK Green Festival scene REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:49 PM To: Subject: Re: Teapots in Space > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote: > >> oh come on, not even an ayahuasca experience could erase the truth that >> astronomers are just more quarantined humans to "them", and that they only >> risk earth to steal garden gnomes with American accents....and water > > Perhaps they're after tea. Do you know of any *other* planet where > it grows? Eh? You see, yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Jul 27 12:02:55 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:02:55 -0400 Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Trev, i'm from 4 miles from Cheddar, and there seems conflicting stories about why the licence has been handed back by the festival promoters. 1/ the Council & Police say civil disruption and traffic chaos. plus provisions for safe parking and signage on site were not present. 2/ the festival organiser ( or spokesperson) couldn't work out why it was cancelled. 3/ the media round here are saying the promoter didn't apply to the council for road signs to be made so that they could divert traffic around the area, you'll know how narrow are lanes are in these parts. 4/ Firebrigade & H&S are saying there were deep concerns about fire hazards, and lack of sweardship. but whats the truth, You got any inside knowledge, was looking forward to it... iain -----Original Message----- From: trev To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:30 pm Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. Look at this. Real festival Music are going to war and we call upon the legions of the Blessed to mobilize. Under Real Festival Music News section http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/welcome.html Trev Discover the UK Green Festival scene REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:49 PM To: Subject: Re: Teapots in Space > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote: > >> oh come on, not even an ayahuasca experience could erase the truth that >> astronomers are just more quarantined humans to "them", and that they only >> risk earth to steal garden gnomes with American accents....and water > > Perhaps they're after tea. Do you know of any *other* planet where > it grows? Eh? You see, yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > ======================================================================= > "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" > -Robert Anton Wilson > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 27 13:20:47 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:20:47 +0100 Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <200907171615.n6HGFe5C008781@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> <17d80c610907171450l2fcf234mad1ca0430b8b37fa@mail.gmail.com> <8CBDCEAD665373E-E80-879@WEBMAIL-DG12.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: My only inside knowledge so far is of me having been to about 8 or 9 BGG's and I can say that: 1. There has never been any civil disruption of note and the parking and site directions have always been efficient. 2. At this stage the only clear reason is that an injunction has been served and speculation would probably not help matters for legal reasons 3. The council and police are fully aware of any necessary road diversions needed, the festival having been on regularly on that site for many years. 4. Stewardship at the BGG has always been very efficient...too efficient for the likes of a lot of the festivalgoers and equal to any other fest I've ever been to. Anyway, hearsay is not much use in this situation particularly when it comes from agencies in the pay and under the sway of the local council and local police themselves. We'll see what happens when the nationals get the story. BGG is the most influential green music festival in the UK. It is the only music festival that gets ALL it's power from sustainable sources, no generators on site, and it's value to humanity and to the future development of the UK in this age of global warming is inestimable. Look at the several photo reviews on Real Festival Music and you can get a good idea of what the BGG is about. Trev Discover the UK Green Festival scene REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:02 PM To: Subject: Re: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. > Trev, > > i'm from 4 miles from Cheddar, and there seems conflicting stories about why the licence has been handed back by the festival promoters. > 1/ the Council & Police say civil disruption and traffic chaos. plus provisions for safe parking and signage on site were not present. > 2/ the festival organiser ( or spokesperson) couldn't work out why it was cancelled. > 3/ the media round here are saying the promoter didn't apply to the council for road signs to be made so that they could divert traffic around the area, you'll know how narrow are lanes are in these parts. > 4/ Firebrigade & H&S are saying there were deep concerns about fire hazards, and lack of sweardship. > > but whats the truth, You got any inside knowledge, was looking forward to it... > > iain > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: trev > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:30 pm > Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. > > > > > > > > > > > Look at this. Real festival Music are going to war and we call upon the legions > of the Blessed to mobilize. > Under Real Festival Music News section > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/welcome.html > > Trev > > > Discover the UK Green Festival scene > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jonathan Jarrett" > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:49 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Teapots in Space > >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote: >> >>> oh come on, not even an ayahuasca experience could erase the truth that >>> astronomers are just more quarantined humans to "them", and that they only >>> risk earth to steal garden gnomes with American accents....and water >> >> Perhaps they're after tea. Do you know of any *other* planet where >> it grows? Eh? You see, yours, >> Jon >> >> -- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> ======================================================================= >> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" >> -Robert Anton Wilson >> > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 27 17:05:40 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:05:40 -0500 Subject: Teapots in Space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/27/09, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > Perhaps they're after tea. Do you know of any *other* planet where > it grows? Eh? You see, yours, > Jon That could very well be, and I meant to tell mike that that the visual did appeal to a gong fan, but they used to come for soma you know, until it was overharvested apparently......I wonder why they turn thier nose at ayahuasca, but then maybe they don't hmmmm From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 28 04:01:39 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:01:39 +0100 Subject: Spacerock article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 18 Jul 2009, at 17:33 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > But there's a lot of space out in them there deserts! ;) There's pretty much the same amount anywhere else if you're looking up :-) > The break I might compare to Time We Left, if a bit more grooved out, though > I tend to compare Gardenia more to the likes of Master of the Universe or > Brainstorm, gracias al monolithic, downtuned, powerchord riffing. I'll grant you the point, but not the Spanglish. Besides, surely in this case Garcias al... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 28 06:36:31 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:36:31 +0100 Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <200907171615.n6HGFe5C008781@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> <17d80c610907171450l2fcf234mad1ca0430b8b37fa@mail.gmail.com> <8CBDCEAD665373E-E80-879@WEBMAIL-DG12.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: Here's the official press release from BGG PRESS NOTICE - 26TH JULY 2009 www.big-green-gathering.com contact holly at desylvapr.com / anna at desylvapr.com / 020 3393 7020 Big Green Gathering Shut Down "It's political" Chief Superintendent tells BGG Director Chief Superintendent Paul Richards admitted to a Big Green Gathering Director that the decision to shut down the Big Green Gathering was political and confirmed to the Chair of the Big Green Gathering that orders had come from the highest level. During a meeting today between the police and directors of the Big Green Gathering, the superintendent said the decision to shut down the BGG was taken over a week ago, confirming the statement from the BGG lawyer that the 'injunction was a red herring.' Directors from the BGG are horrified at this partisan interpretation of licencing law. Big Green Gathering Chair Brig Oubridge said, "At the multi-agency meeting on Thursday 23rd July, we were still negotiating with the police and the council under the genuine belief that things were progressing and we were continuing to spend money on infrastructure, wages and security. If they knew they were going to cancel the event, we can only conclude that this drive to increase expenditure appears to be a deliberate attempt to bankrupt the Big Green Gathering. The injunction served on the Big Green Gathering was primarily addressing the fact that the Big Green Gathering did not obtain the necessary road closure despite the fact that the Highways Agency had previously indicated that this would be done. The Big Green Gathering has been running an event since 1994 and never before has public safety been an issue. The BGG has an exemplary record on health and safety and crime levels have always been low for the number of people on site. Despite the concerns over the behaviour of the Council and the Police, event organisers will work with them to ensure the safety of those at the premises and ensure that they leave the land in an orderly fashion. Brig concluded, "We are very aware of our responsibilities to those already on the site and very sad for all those who were coming to enjoy one of the most peaceful festivals in the UK." Ends: Holly de Sylva -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:02 PM To: Subject: Re: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. > Trev, > > i'm from 4 miles from Cheddar, and there seems conflicting stories about > why the licence has been handed back by the festival promoters. > 1/ the Council & Police say civil disruption and traffic chaos. plus > provisions for safe parking and signage on site were not present. > 2/ the festival organiser ( or spokesperson) couldn't work out why it was > cancelled. > 3/ the media round here are saying the promoter didn't apply to the > council for road signs to be made so that they could divert traffic around > the area, you'll know how narrow are lanes are in these parts. > 4/ Firebrigade & H&S are saying there were deep concerns about fire > hazards, and lack of sweardship. > > but whats the truth, You got any inside knowledge, was looking forward to > it... > > iain > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: trev > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:30 pm > Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police > and local council. > > > > > > > > > > > Look at this. Real festival Music are going to war and we call upon the > legions > of the Blessed to mobilize. > Under Real Festival Music News section > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/welcome.html > > Trev > > > Discover the UK Green Festival scene > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jonathan Jarrett" > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:49 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Teapots in Space > >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote: >> >>> oh come on, not even an ayahuasca experience could erase the truth that >>> astronomers are just more quarantined humans to "them", and that they >>> only >>> risk earth to steal garden gnomes with American accents....and water >> >> Perhaps they're after tea. Do you know of any *other* planet where >> it grows? Eh? You see, yours, >> Jon >> >> -- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> >> ======================================================================= >> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >> opposite" >> -Robert Anton Wilson >> > > > > > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Jul 28 07:34:55 2009 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:34:55 -0400 Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So the plot thinkens.. It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... If the Police actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the finger of blame to Council / Government... and not a public disorder/safety issue. Iain -----Original Message----- From: trev To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 3:36 Subject: Re: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. Here's the official press release from BGG? ? ? PRESS NOTICE - 26TH JULY 2009? ? www.big-green-gathering.com? ? contact holly at desylvapr.com / anna at desylvapr.com / 020 3393 7020? ? ? ? Big Green Gathering Shut Down? ? "It's political" Chief Superintendent tells BGG Director? ? ? Chief Superintendent Paul Richards admitted to a Big Green Gathering Director that the decision to shut down the Big Green Gathering was political and confirmed to the Chair of the Big Green Gathering that orders had come from the highest level.? ? During a meeting today between the police and directors of the Big Green Gathering, the superintendent said the decision to shut down the BGG was taken over a week ago, confirming the statement from the BGG lawyer that the 'injunction was a red herring.'? ? Directors from the BGG are horrified at this partisan interpretation of licencing law. Big Green Gathering Chair Brig Oubridge said, "At the multi-agency meeting on Thursday 23rd July, we were still negotiating with the police and the council under the genuine belief that things were progressing and we were continuing to spend money on infrastructure, wages and security. If they knew they were going to cancel the event, we can only conclude that this drive to increase expenditure appears to be a deliberate attempt to bankrupt the Big Green Gathering.? ? The injunction served on the Big Green Gathering was primarily addressing the fact that the Big Green Gathering did not obtain the necessary road closure despite the fact that the Highways Agency had previously indicated that this would be done.? ? The Big Green Gathering has been running an event since 1994 and never before has public safety been an issue. The BGG has an exemplary record on health and safety and crime levels have always been low for the number of people on site.? ? Despite the concerns over the behaviour of the Council and the Police, event organisers will work with them to ensure the safety of those at the premises and ensure that they leave the land in an orderly fashion. Brig concluded, "We are very aware of our responsibilities to those already on the site and very sad for all those who were coming to enjoy one of the most peaceful festivals in the UK."? ? Ends:? ? ? ? Holly de Sylva? ? ? --------------------------------------------------? From: ? Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:02 PM? To: ? Subject: Re: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council.? ? > Trev,? >? > i'm from 4 miles from Cheddar, and there seems conflicting stories about > why the licence has been handed back by the festival promoters.? > 1/ the Council & Police say civil disruption and traffic chaos. plus > provisions for safe parking and signage on site were not present.? > 2/ the festival organiser ( or spokesperson) couldn't work out why it was > cancelled.? > 3/ the media round here are saying the promoter didn't apply to the > council for road signs to be made so that they could divert traffic around > the area, you'll know how narrow are lanes are in these parts.? > 4/ Firebrigade & H&S are saying there were deep concerns about fire > hazards, and lack of sweardship.? >? > but whats the truth, You got any inside knowledge, was looking forward to > it...? >? > iain? >? >? >? >? >? > -----Original Message-----? > From: trev ? > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET? > Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:30 pm? > Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police > and local council.? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > Look at this. Real festival Music are going to war and we call upon the > legions? > of the Blessed to mobilize.? > Under Real Festival Music News section? > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/welcome.html? >? > Trev? >? >? > Discover the UK Green Festival scene? > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk? > Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers? >? >? > --------------------------------------------------? > From: "Jonathan Jarrett" ? > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:49 PM? > To: ? > Subject: Re: Teapots in Space? >? >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote:? >>? >>> oh come on, not even an ayahuasca experience could erase the truth that? >>> astronomers are just more quarantined humans to "them", and that they >>> only? >>> risk earth to steal garden gnomes with American accents....and water? >>? >> Perhaps they're after tea. Do you know of any *other* planet where? >> it grows? Eh? You see, yours,? >> Jon? >>? >> -- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk? >> >> =======================================================================? >> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >> opposite"? >> -Robert Anton Wilson? >>? >? >? >? >? > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jul 28 08:37:43 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:37:43 -0500 Subject: Spacerock article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 28 Jul 2009, at 03:01 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > I'll grant you the point, but not the Spanglish. I am a native speaker of Spanglish! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 28 09:20:59 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:20:59 -0700 Subject: Spacerock article Message-ID: Am I the only one on the list who saw Kyuss live? It was kind of an accident - a friend and I went to see L7, and Kyuss opened for them. They were touring their new "Blues for the Red Sun" album, and had some of those little carboard promotional cards for it. I almost tossed mine out cause I had never heard of Kyuss (and didn't even get the dweeby D&D reference, amazingly enough). :) But while we were hanging out, Kyuss started playing, and Holy Crap-- it was like god had reached down and made a band play exactly kind of heavy downtuned, cranked-up, monster blues metal riffage that's dearest to my heart. Tried to buy their albums right after, but this was years before the Web and couldn't find anything in my glorious home town of Buffalo. Finally found Blues for the Red Sun at (are ready for this?) in a Radio Shack on the NC outer banks that had about 50 CDs for sale in a bin, one of which was an album that I had sought unsuccessfully in some of the largest record stores in the world... ;-) And then of course not long after that I found Welcome to Sky Valley, which might possibly be my favorite album ever... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Tuesday, Jul 28, 2009 8:46 am Subject: Re: Spacerock article To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 28 Jul 2009, at 03:01 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: I'll grant you the point, but not the Spanglish. I am a native speaker of Spanglish! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Jul 28 09:28:06 2009 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:28:06 -0700 Subject: Spacerock article In-Reply-To: <3331617658.6562870@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Haven't seen Kyuss but I saw Queens of the Stone Age opening for Ween for their first album. They were great with a psychedelic film playing behind them. ________________________________ From: Steve To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:20:59 AM Subject: Re: Spacerock article Am I the only one on the list who saw Kyuss live?? It was kind of an accident - a friend and I went to see L7, and Kyuss opened for them.? They were touring their new "Blues for the Red Sun" album, and had some of those little carboard promotional cards for it.? I almost tossed mine out cause I had never heard of Kyuss (and didn't even get the dweeby D&D reference, amazingly enough).? :)? But while we were hanging out, Kyuss started playing, and Holy Crap-- it was like god had reached down and made a band play exactly kind of heavy downtuned, cranked-up, monster blues metal riffage that's dearest to my heart.? Tried to buy their albums right after, but this was years before the Web and couldn't find anything in my glorious home town of Buffalo.? Finally found Blues for the Red Sun at (are ready for this?) in a Radio Shack on the NC outer banks that had about 50 CDs for sale in a bin, one of which was an album that I had sought unsuccessfully in some of the largest record stores in the world...? ;-) And then of course not long after that I found Welcome to Sky Valley, which might possibly be my favorite album ever... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Tuesday, Jul 28, 2009 8:46 am Subject: Re: Spacerock article To: Reply-? ? BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 28 Jul 2009, at 03:01 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: I'll grant you the point, but not the Spanglish. I am a native speaker of Spanglish! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Jul 28 09:39:26 2009 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:39:26 -0400 Subject: Spacerock article In-Reply-To: <693277.40700.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Haven't seen Kyuss but I saw Queens of the Stone Age opening for Ween for their first album. They were great with a psychedelic film playing behind them. Looks like they had the opening band and headliner inverted! ________________________________ From: Steve To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:20:59 AM Subject: Re: Spacerock article Am I the only one on the list who saw Kyuss live?? It was kind of an accident - a friend and I went to see L7, and Kyuss opened for them.? They were touring their new "Blues for the Red Sun" album, and had some of those little carboard promotional cards for it.? I almost tossed mine out cause I had never heard of Kyuss (and didn't even get the dweeby D&D reference, amazingly enough).? :)? But while we were hanging out, Kyuss started playing, and Holy Crap-- it was like god had reached down and made a band play exactly kind of heavy downtuned, cranked-up, monster blues metal riffage that's dearest to my heart.? Tried to buy their albums right after, but this was years before the Web and couldn't find anything in my glorious home town of Buffalo.? Finally found Blues for the Red Sun at (are ready for this?) in a Radio Shack on the NC outer banks that had about 50 CDs for sale in a bin, one of which was an album that I had sought unsuccessfully in some of the largest record stores in the world...? ;-) And then of course not long after that I found Welcome to Sky Valley, which might possibly be my favorite album ever... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Tuesday, Jul 28, 2009 8:46 am Subject: Re: Spacerock article To: Reply-? ? BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 28 Jul 2009, at 03:01 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: I'll grant you the point, but not the Spanglish. I am a native speaker of Spanglish! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 28 09:44:10 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:44:10 +0100 Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <200907171615.n6HGFe5C008781@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> <17d80c610907171450l2fcf234mad1ca0430b8b37fa@mail.gmail.com> <8CBDCEAD665373E-E80-879@WEBMAIL-DG12.sim.aol.com> <8CBDD8E90A7B756-7F0-149@FWM-D44.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: It seems as if the "Highest level" as quoted by the policeman referred to the chief of Somerset and Avon police and not Napoleon Bonapert as I assumed... I think it's a clear case of local provincial prejudice myself You see...all the locals see is a bunch of "alternative people" going to a fest without understanding that the fest is the premier green awareness music and environment festival in th UK I've heard that one cop has been sacked already for his part in it. Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:34 PM To: Subject: Re: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. > So the plot thinkens.. > > It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... > If the Police actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the > finger of blame to Council / Government... and not a public > disorder/safety issue. > > Iain > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: trev > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 3:36 > Subject: Re: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from > police and local council. > > > > > > > > > > Here's the official press release from BGG? > ? > > ? > > PRESS NOTICE - 26TH JULY 2009? > ? > > www.big-green-gathering.com? > ? > > contact holly at desylvapr.com / anna at desylvapr.com / 020 3393 7020? > ? > > ? > > ? > > Big Green Gathering Shut Down? > ? > > "It's political" Chief Superintendent tells BGG Director? > ? > > ? > > Chief Superintendent Paul Richards admitted to a Big Green Gathering > Director that the decision to shut down the Big Green Gathering was > political and confirmed to the Chair of the Big Green Gathering that > orders > had come from the highest level.? > ? > > During a meeting today between the police and directors of the Big Green > Gathering, the superintendent said the decision to shut down the BGG was > taken over a week ago, confirming the statement from the BGG lawyer that > the > 'injunction was a red herring.'? > ? > > Directors from the BGG are horrified at this partisan interpretation of > licencing law. Big Green Gathering Chair Brig Oubridge said, "At the > multi-agency meeting on Thursday 23rd July, we were still negotiating with > the police and the council under the genuine belief that things were > progressing and we were continuing to spend money on infrastructure, wages > and security. If they knew they were going to cancel the event, we can > only > conclude that this drive to increase expenditure appears to be a > deliberate > attempt to bankrupt the Big Green Gathering.? > ? > > The injunction served on the Big Green Gathering was primarily addressing > the fact that the Big Green Gathering did not obtain the necessary road > closure despite the fact that the Highways Agency had previously indicated > that this would be done.? > ? > > The Big Green Gathering has been running an event since 1994 and never > before has public safety been an issue. The BGG has an exemplary record > on > health and safety and crime levels have always been low for the number of > people on site.? > ? > > Despite the concerns over the behaviour of the Council and the Police, > event > organisers will work with them to ensure the safety of those at the > premises > and ensure that they leave the land in an orderly fashion. Brig > concluded, > "We are very aware of our responsibilities to those already on the site > and > very sad for all those who were coming to enjoy one of the most peaceful > festivals in the UK."? > ? > > Ends:? > ? > > ? > > ? > > Holly de Sylva? > ? > > ? > > --------------------------------------------------? > > From: ? > > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:02 PM? > > To: ? > > Subject: Re: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from > police > and local council.? > ? > >> Trev,? > >>? > >> i'm from 4 miles from Cheddar, and there seems conflicting stories about >> why the licence has been handed back by the festival promoters.? > >> 1/ the Council & Police say civil disruption and traffic chaos. plus >> provisions for safe parking and signage on site were not present.? > >> 2/ the festival organiser ( or spokesperson) couldn't work out why it was >> cancelled.? > >> 3/ the media round here are saying the promoter didn't apply to the >> council for road signs to be made so that they could divert traffic >> around >> the area, you'll know how narrow are lanes are in these parts.? > >> 4/ Firebrigade & H&S are saying there were deep concerns about fire >> hazards, and lack of sweardship.? > >>? > >> but whats the truth, You got any inside knowledge, was looking forward to >> it...? > >>? > >> iain? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >> -----Original Message-----? > >> From: trev ? > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET? > >> Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 4:30 pm? > >> Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police >> and local council.? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >> Look at this. Real festival Music are going to war and we call upon the >> legions? > >> of the Blessed to mobilize.? > >> Under Real Festival Music News section? > >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/welcome.html? > >>? > >> Trev? > >>? > >>? > >> Discover the UK Green Festival scene? > >> REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk? > >> Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers? > >>? > >>? > >> --------------------------------------------------? > >> From: "Jonathan Jarrett" ? > >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:49 PM? > >> To: ? > >> Subject: Re: Teapots in Space? > >>? > >>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, mike coleman wrote:? > >>>? > >>>> oh come on, not even an ayahuasca experience could erase the truth >>>> that? > >>>> astronomers are just more quarantined humans to "them", and that they >>>> only? > >>>> risk earth to steal garden gnomes with American accents....and water? > >>>? > >>> Perhaps they're after tea. Do you know of any *other* planet where? > >>> it grows? Eh? You see, yours,? > >>> Jon? > >>>? > >>> -- >>> Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk? > >>> >>> =======================================================================? > >>> "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly >>> opposite"? > >>> -Robert Anton Wilson? > >>>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >>? > >> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the > move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 28 10:25:16 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:25:16 -0700 Subject: Spacerock article Message-ID: I would say the same thing about Kyuss opening for L7. Kyuss rocked, L7 (the band is had actually gone to see) I almost walked out on... I liked their studio work, but they stank live. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Theodore O Jackson Date: Tuesday, Jul 28, 2009 9:42 am Subject: Re: Spacerock article To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Haven't seen Kyuss but I saw Queens of the Stone Age opening for Ween for their first album. They were great with a psychedelic film playing behind them. Looks like they had the opening band and headliner inverted! ________________________________ From: Steve To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:20:59 AM Subject: Re: Spacerock article Am I the only one on the list who saw Kyuss live?? It was kind of an accident - a friend and I went to see L7, and Kyuss opened for them.? They were touring their new "Blues for the Red Sun" album, and had some of those little carboard promotional cards for it.? I almost tossed mine out cause I had never heard of Kyuss (and didn't even get the dweeby D&D reference, amazingly enough).? :)? But while we were hanging out, Kyuss started playing, and Holy Crap-- it was like god had reached down and made a band play exactly kind of heavy downtuned, cranked-up, monster blues metal riffage that's dearest to my heart.? Tried to buy their albums right after, but this was years before the Web and couldn't find anything in my glorious home town of Buffalo.? Finally found Blues for the Red Sun at (are ready for this?) in a Radio Shack on the NC outer banks that had about 50 CDs for sale in a bin, one of which was an album that I had sought unsuccessfully in some of the largest record stores in the world...? ;-) And then of course not long after that I found Welcome to Sky Valley, which might possibly be my favorite album ever... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Tuesday, Jul 28, 2009 8:46 am Subject: Re: Spacerock article To: Reply-? ? BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 28 Jul 2009, at 03:01 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: I'll grant you the point, but not the Spanglish. I am a native speaker of Spanglish! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 28 10:37:05 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:37:05 +0100 Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: iainferguson@AOL.COM's message of Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:34:55 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 28 12:08:51 2009 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (mary) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:08:51 -0400 Subject: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <200907281437.n6SEb5cm021733@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I don't follow the news, politics or any of that in my cynicism, it seems to me, like this is a case of different tactics from Stonehenge, getting aware. Getting nowhere, and soon getting no air. I don't like this dream, would someone wake me before the final disaster? There's hope, and maybe still time. Good luck with the festival, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:37 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: > So the plot thinkens.. > It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... If the Police > actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the finger of blame > to Council / Government... and not a public disorder/safety issue. So is this Brown's revenge for Porrit's parthian shots at him? FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Tue Jul 28 12:21:34 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:21:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: A Message-ID: iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: > So the plot thinkens.. > It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... If the Police > actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the finger of > blame to Council / Government... and not a public disorder/safety issue. I mentioned this to a friend of mine who is quite close to such things, and her responses were (identifying items removed to protect the innocent *G*): "Yawn . . . I've been hearing all about it since Sunday . . started with the phone calls ( I wasn't going, I'm not a shareholder or on the committee) and the reports are getting more fantastic and more rabid, "its all a conspiracy . . . it was planned from the beginning . . . . it was thru corporate pressure . . .it was aliens . . . . a big boy did it and ran away. . . . " ) I still think that if the BGG committee suspected they would be shut down they should have crossed the Ts and dotted the Is to ensure they couldn't be got on bureaucratic processes such as applications to the council to close roads and such like then they could point to 'political' reasons for its closure. " Also: "the green group shop is becoming a focus for the whingeing, moaning and conspiracy theories, I'm staying well out of it as the tendency is to fly off into fantasy and feeling hard done by." And: "The main p-off for us is the assumption that all of those who would have gone to the BGG now think they can turn up at our party (and invite their mates) and we have no say in it! We are resisting it being turned into a mini BGG as the crowd who want to come have no respect for anyones space, ideas, preferences or choice of music, they expect to arrive, be fed and watered & to set themselves up at the centre of the party and play diddly (dirgy, miserable and endless!) music all night with no regard for others, or the fact the place they choose will probably be under my bedroom window (Gardez loo!) And whats more they expect us to be not only grateful for the music but attentive, they often complain when people in pubs continue to chat while they are playing. . . . (close rant!)" Make of that what you will!! Cheers ChrisW ObCD:NoVa eXPReSS by NeBeLNeST This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). 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Name: not available URL: From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 28 14:32:49 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:32:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <200907281437.n6SEb5cm021733@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> A <7EB1B21B9738D44F91456B3D81367DBD0214CCCF@uk01ex03.travel.oag.com> Message-ID: So Global Warming is all a load of insignificant poppycock and the right to hold public gatherings doesn't matter anyway Right...got it Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Warburton" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:21 PM To: Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. > iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: > >> So the plot thinkens.. > >> It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... If the Police >> actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the finger of >> blame to Council / Government... and not a public disorder/safety > issue. > > I mentioned this to a friend of mine who is quite close to such things, > and her responses were (identifying items removed to protect the > innocent *G*): > > "Yawn . . . I've been hearing all about it since Sunday . . started > with the phone calls ( I wasn't going, I'm not a shareholder or on the > committee) and the reports are getting more fantastic and more rabid, > "its all a conspiracy . . . it was planned from the beginning . . . . it > was thru corporate pressure . . .it was aliens . . . . a big boy did it > and ran away. . . . " ) I still think that if the BGG committee > suspected they would be shut down they should have crossed the Ts and > dotted the Is to ensure they couldn't be got on bureaucratic processes > such as applications to the council to close roads and such like then > they could point to 'political' reasons for its closure. " > > Also: > "the green group shop is becoming a focus for the whingeing, moaning and > conspiracy theories, I'm staying well out of it as the tendency is to > fly off into fantasy and feeling hard done by." > > And: > "The main p-off for us is the assumption that all of those who would > have gone to the BGG now think they can turn up at our party (and invite > their mates) and we have no say in it! We are resisting it being > turned into a mini BGG as the crowd who want to come have no respect for > anyones space, ideas, preferences or choice of music, they expect to > arrive, be fed and watered & to set themselves up at the centre of the > party and play diddly (dirgy, miserable and endless!) music all night > with no regard for others, or the fact the place they choose will > probably be under my bedroom window (Gardez loo!) And whats more they > expect us to be not only grateful for the music but attentive, they > often complain when people in pubs continue to chat while they are > playing. . . . (close rant!)" > > Make of that what you will!! > > Cheers > ChrisW > ObCD:NoVa eXPReSS by NeBeLNeST > This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any > attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They > may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other > than the intended recipient. If you are not one of the intended > recipients, or this email is received in error, please immediately either > notify the sender or contact UBM Aviation on +44 (0) 1582 600111 quoting > the name of the sender and the email address to which it has been sent and > then delete it and any attachment(s). > > While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound > e-mails, UBM Aviation and its affiliate companies cannot guarantee that > attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your systems, and does > not accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems > experienced. Neither UBM Aviation nor the sender accepts any > responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan or > otherwise check this email and any attachments. > > UBM Aviation may monitor or record outgoing and incoming e-mail to secure > effective system operation and for other lawful purposes. By replying to > this email you give your consent to such monitoring. > > Thank you. > > UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, > No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, > London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church > Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 28 17:50:54 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:50:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: it's much too late for windmills and cars that run on farts the only way to have any chance at all is to address the problem at the source human hunting season sadly won't fly so I propose treating baby-making as an illness, worse than tobacco smoking in the states incremental taxes until having more than a couple is so astronomical that only the filthy rich can have 3 or more people need to understand that there is only so much a person can ever achieve or do and that's not good enough or excuse enough too much strain on resources and not enough thought for the critters no time for alternatives that can come later after people learn reproductive self control and that cute infants are cute so the parasitic larval stage gets it's needs met : )O On 7/28/09, trev wrote: > > So Global Warming is all a load of insignificant poppycock and the right to > hold public gatherings doesn't matter anyway > Right...got it > > Trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Chris Warburton" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:21 PM > To: > Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from > police and local council. > > iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: >> >> So the plot thinkens.. >>> >> >> It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... If the Police >>> actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the finger of >>> blame to Council / Government... and not a public disorder/safety >>> >> issue. >> >> I mentioned this to a friend of mine who is quite close to such things, >> and her responses were (identifying items removed to protect the >> innocent *G*): >> >> "Yawn . . . I've been hearing all about it since Sunday . . started >> with the phone calls ( I wasn't going, I'm not a shareholder or on the >> committee) and the reports are getting more fantastic and more rabid, >> "its all a conspiracy . . . it was planned from the beginning . . . . it >> was thru corporate pressure . . .it was aliens . . . . a big boy did it >> and ran away. . . . " ) I still think that if the BGG committee >> suspected they would be shut down they should have crossed the Ts and >> dotted the Is to ensure they couldn't be got on bureaucratic processes >> such as applications to the council to close roads and such like then >> they could point to 'political' reasons for its closure. " >> >> Also: >> "the green group shop is becoming a focus for the whingeing, moaning and >> conspiracy theories, I'm staying well out of it as the tendency is to >> fly off into fantasy and feeling hard done by." >> >> And: >> "The main p-off for us is the assumption that all of those who would >> have gone to the BGG now think they can turn up at our party (and invite >> their mates) and we have no say in it! We are resisting it being >> turned into a mini BGG as the crowd who want to come have no respect for >> anyones space, ideas, preferences or choice of music, they expect to >> arrive, be fed and watered & to set themselves up at the centre of the >> party and play diddly (dirgy, miserable and endless!) music all night >> with no regard for others, or the fact the place they choose will >> probably be under my bedroom window (Gardez loo!) And whats more they >> expect us to be not only grateful for the music but attentive, they >> often complain when people in pubs continue to chat while they are >> playing. . . . (close rant!)" >> >> Make of that what you will!! >> >> Cheers >> ChrisW >> ObCD:NoVa eXPReSS by NeBeLNeST >> This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any >> attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They may >> not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the >> intended recipient. 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By replying to >> this email you give your consent to such monitoring. >> >> Thank you. >> >> UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, >> No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, >> SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, >> Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK >> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 28 18:32:45 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:32:45 -0500 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610907281450x5d22a920p74b530b3bcece098@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: and since Trev made me insane again, I suppose it's only fair to say the fest was cancelled by "them". Not for knowing too much as Trev surely hasn't studied james forrestal's suicide yet, for one, and besides the alien revelation is likely the best bet now, so long as people don't freak out..... it was cancelled as a favor to Trev....(and Nik) and as for me, I am pro life simply quality vs. quantity (reserving judement where rape is concerned) now about that Kyuss... On 7/28/09, mike coleman wrote: > > it's much too late for windmills and cars that run on farts > the only way to have any chance at all is to address the problem at the > source > human hunting season sadly won't fly so I propose treating baby-making as > an illness, worse than tobacco smoking in the states > incremental taxes until having more than a couple is so astronomical that > only the filthy rich can have 3 or more > people need to understand that there is only so much a person can ever > achieve or do and that's not good enough or excuse enough > too much strain on resources and not enough thought for the critters > no time for alternatives > that can come later after people learn reproductive self control and that > cute infants are cute so the parasitic larval stage gets it's needs met : )O > > > > On 7/28/09, trev wrote: >> >> So Global Warming is all a load of insignificant poppycock and the right >> to hold public gatherings doesn't matter anyway >> Right...got it >> >> Trev >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Chris Warburton" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:21 PM >> To: >> Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from >> police and local council. >> >> iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: >>> >>> So the plot thinkens.. >>>> >>> >>> It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... If the Police >>>> actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the finger of >>>> blame to Council / Government... and not a public disorder/safety >>>> >>> issue. >>> >>> I mentioned this to a friend of mine who is quite close to such things, >>> and her responses were (identifying items removed to protect the >>> innocent *G*): >>> >>> "Yawn . . . I've been hearing all about it since Sunday . . started >>> with the phone calls ( I wasn't going, I'm not a shareholder or on the >>> committee) and the reports are getting more fantastic and more rabid, >>> "its all a conspiracy . . . it was planned from the beginning . . . . it >>> was thru corporate pressure . . .it was aliens . . . . a big boy did it >>> and ran away. . . . " ) I still think that if the BGG committee >>> suspected they would be shut down they should have crossed the Ts and >>> dotted the Is to ensure they couldn't be got on bureaucratic processes >>> such as applications to the council to close roads and such like then >>> they could point to 'political' reasons for its closure. " >>> >>> Also: >>> "the green group shop is becoming a focus for the whingeing, moaning and >>> conspiracy theories, I'm staying well out of it as the tendency is to >>> fly off into fantasy and feeling hard done by." >>> >>> And: >>> "The main p-off for us is the assumption that all of those who would >>> have gone to the BGG now think they can turn up at our party (and invite >>> their mates) and we have no say in it! We are resisting it being >>> turned into a mini BGG as the crowd who want to come have no respect for >>> anyones space, ideas, preferences or choice of music, they expect to >>> arrive, be fed and watered & to set themselves up at the centre of the >>> party and play diddly (dirgy, miserable and endless!) music all night >>> with no regard for others, or the fact the place they choose will >>> probably be under my bedroom window (Gardez loo!) And whats more they >>> expect us to be not only grateful for the music but attentive, they >>> often complain when people in pubs continue to chat while they are >>> playing. . . . (close rant!)" >>> >>> Make of that what you will!! >>> >>> Cheers >>> ChrisW >>> ObCD:NoVa eXPReSS by NeBeLNeST >>> This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any >>> attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. They may >>> not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone other than the >>> intended recipient. If you are not one of the intended recipients, or this >>> email is received in error, please immediately either notify the sender or >>> contact UBM Aviation on +44 (0) 1582 600111 quoting the name of the sender >>> and the email address to which it has been sent and then delete it and any >>> attachment(s). >>> >>> While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound >>> e-mails, UBM Aviation and its affiliate companies cannot guarantee that >>> attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your systems, and does not >>> accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. >>> Neither UBM Aviation nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses >>> and it is your responsibility to scan or otherwise check this email and any >>> attachments. >>> >>> UBM Aviation may monitor or record outgoing and incoming e-mail to secure >>> effective system operation and for other lawful purposes. By replying to >>> this email you give your consent to such monitoring. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, >>> No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, London, >>> SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church Street, >>> Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK >>> >>> > From Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM Wed Jul 29 05:09:05 2009 From: Chris.Warburton at UBMAVIATION.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:09:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: A Message-ID: Not at all, on either count. However, having seen that there are so many conflicting stories about what is ACTUALLY going on, I thought my (VERY green, and VERY political) friend's observations were quite interesting. There are almost certainly some very dodgy agendas in play here, but also some failures of organization. We don't help ourselves by flying off the handle. We have to learn, and get it right in future. Chris Warburton P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: 28 July 2009 19:33 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. So Global Warming is all a load of insignificant poppycock and the right to hold public gatherings doesn't matter anyway Right...got it Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris Warburton" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:21 PM To: Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. > iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: > >> So the plot thinkens.. > >> It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... If the Police >> actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the finger of >> blame to Council / Government... and not a public disorder/safety > issue. > > I mentioned this to a friend of mine who is quite close to such > things, and her responses were (identifying items removed to protect > the innocent *G*): > > "Yawn . . . I've been hearing all about it since Sunday . . started > with the phone calls ( I wasn't going, I'm not a shareholder or on the > committee) and the reports are getting more fantastic and more rabid, > "its all a conspiracy . . . it was planned from the beginning . . . . > it was thru corporate pressure . . .it was aliens . . . . a big boy did it > and ran away. . . . " ) I still think that if the BGG committee > suspected they would be shut down they should have crossed the Ts and > dotted the Is to ensure they couldn't be got on bureaucratic processes > such as applications to the council to close roads and such like then > they could point to 'political' reasons for its closure. " > > Also: > "the green group shop is becoming a focus for the whingeing, moaning > and conspiracy theories, I'm staying well out of it as the tendency is > to fly off into fantasy and feeling hard done by." > > And: > "The main p-off for us is the assumption that all of those who would > have gone to the BGG now think they can turn up at our party (and invite > their mates) and we have no say in it! We are resisting it being > turned into a mini BGG as the crowd who want to come have no respect > for anyones space, ideas, preferences or choice of music, they expect > to arrive, be fed and watered & to set themselves up at the centre of > the party and play diddly (dirgy, miserable and endless!) music all > night with no regard for others, or the fact the place they choose > will probably be under my bedroom window (Gardez loo!) And whats more > they expect us to be not only grateful for the music but attentive, > they often complain when people in pubs continue to chat while they > are playing. . . . (close rant!)" > > Make of that what you will!! > > Cheers > ChrisW > ObCD:NoVa eXPReSS by NeBeLNeST > This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any > attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. > They may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone > other than the intended recipient. If you are not one of the intended > recipients, or this email is received in error, please immediately > either notify the sender or contact UBM Aviation on +44 (0) 1582 > 600111 quoting the name of the sender and the email address to which > it has been sent and then delete it and any attachment(s). > > While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and > outbound e-mails, UBM Aviation and its affiliate companies cannot > guarantee that attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your > systems, and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or > computer problems experienced. Neither UBM Aviation nor the sender > accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility > to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. > > UBM Aviation may monitor or record outgoing and incoming e-mail to > secure effective system operation and for other lawful purposes. By > replying to this email you give your consent to such monitoring. > > Thank you. > > UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, > No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, > London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church > Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 29 05:28:32 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:28:32 -0500 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <7EB1B21B9738D44F91456B3D81367DBD0214CCD0@uk01ex03.travel.oag.com> Message-ID: Realising I'm not really up on the exact fest quarrels, my own research says that enough of your beloved scientists are now overwhelmingly convinced that global warming (this one issue) is linked to man and fossil fuels (amongst whatever else like people that over eat and pass gas frequetly) Sitting in my seat with endless days 100+, it was 115 here the other day with added humidity (every day) like I've never suffered through hell before, I am sure a believer Big business and governments are doubtful to do enough fast enough IMHO. Last I read, we had best AT LEAST TRY, to change emissions, as it might work We've got bigger problems though......like why the first Alien Autopsy LP had a colored label on black vinyl when there are only supposed to be 5 of those with a white one (I'll be going to bed soon I hope) somebody cover me On 7/29/09, Chris Warburton wrote: > > Not at all, on either count. However, having seen that there are so > many conflicting stories about what is ACTUALLY going on, I thought my > (VERY green, and VERY political) friend's observations were quite > interesting. There are almost certainly some very dodgy agendas in play > here, but also some failures of organization. We don't help ourselves > by flying off the handle. We have to learn, and get it right in future. > > > > Chris Warburton > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On Behalf Of trev > Sent: 28 July 2009 19:33 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat > from police and local council. > > So Global Warming is all a load of insignificant poppycock and the right > to hold public gatherings doesn't matter anyway Right...got it > > Trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Chris Warburton" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:21 PM > To: > Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from > police and local council. > > > iainferguson at AOL.COM writes: > > > >> So the plot thinkens.. > > > >> It's all starting to smell horribly of big brother.... If the Police > > >> actually said that, well done, cos they are pointing the finger of > >> blame to Council / Government... and not a public disorder/safety > > issue. > > > > I mentioned this to a friend of mine who is quite close to such > > things, and her responses were (identifying items removed to protect > > the innocent *G*): > > > > "Yawn . . . I've been hearing all about it since Sunday . . started > > with the phone calls ( I wasn't going, I'm not a shareholder or on the > > committee) and the reports are getting more fantastic and more rabid, > > "its all a conspiracy . . . it was planned from the beginning . . . . > > it was thru corporate pressure . . .it was aliens . . . . a big boy > did it > > and ran away. . . . " ) I still think that if the BGG committee > > suspected they would be shut down they should have crossed the Ts and > > dotted the Is to ensure they couldn't be got on bureaucratic processes > > > such as applications to the council to close roads and such like then > > they could point to 'political' reasons for its closure. " > > > > Also: > > "the green group shop is becoming a focus for the whingeing, moaning > > and conspiracy theories, I'm staying well out of it as the tendency is > > > to fly off into fantasy and feeling hard done by." > > > > And: > > "The main p-off for us is the assumption that all of those who would > > have gone to the BGG now think they can turn up at our party (and > invite > > their mates) and we have no say in it! We are resisting it being > > turned into a mini BGG as the crowd who want to come have no respect > > for anyones space, ideas, preferences or choice of music, they expect > > to arrive, be fed and watered & to set themselves up at the centre of > > the party and play diddly (dirgy, miserable and endless!) music all > > night with no regard for others, or the fact the place they choose > > will probably be under my bedroom window (Gardez loo!) And whats more > > they expect us to be not only grateful for the music but attentive, > > they often complain when people in pubs continue to chat while they > > are playing. . . . (close rant!)" > > > > Make of that what you will!! > > > > Cheers > > ChrisW > > ObCD:NoVa eXPReSS by NeBeLNeST > > This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It and any > > attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information. > > They may not be disclosed to or used by or copied in any way by anyone > > > other than the intended recipient. If you are not one of the intended > > > recipients, or this email is received in error, please immediately > > either notify the sender or contact UBM Aviation on +44 (0) 1582 > > 600111 quoting the name of the sender and the email address to which > > it has been sent and then delete it and any attachment(s). > > > > While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and > > outbound e-mails, UBM Aviation and its affiliate companies cannot > > guarantee that attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your > > systems, and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or > > computer problems experienced. Neither UBM Aviation nor the sender > > accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility > > to scan or otherwise check this email and any attachments. > > > > UBM Aviation may monitor or record outgoing and incoming e-mail to > > secure effective system operation and for other lawful purposes. By > > replying to this email you give your consent to such monitoring. > > > > Thank you. > > > > UBM Aviation Worldwide Limited is registered in England and Wales, > > No.4226716. Registered office: Ludgate House, 245 Blackfriars Road, > > London, SE1 9UY, UK and place of business at The OAG Building, Church > > Street, Dunstable, Beds LU5 4HB, UK > > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 29 05:38:43 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:38:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:50:54 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 29 05:40:41 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:40:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:28:32 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 29 05:53:20 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:53:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: UK's premier green awareness festival under threat from police and local council. In-Reply-To: <200907290940.n6T9efWW016904@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: OK, I'm afraid of you guys but wingin' things in my own capacity did you see where Buzz Aldrin is sudenly vocal about the monolith on phobos and especially great for me, the russians have just spoke of UFOs being prevalent in the deepest parts of the atlantic, bermuda triangle area, carribean and their own lake which is the deepest known to man where they chased silver suited humanoids at 165 feet down. to the death of 3 and injury to 4 stay away from lakes, reservoirs and bathtubs I swear I've even seen them drain a local water tank.......... I'm lovin' it, as McDonalds doesn't do it for me On 7/29/09, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > > Realising I'm not really up on the exact fest quarrels, my own research > says > > that enough of your beloved scientists are now overwhelmingly convinced > that > > global warming (this one issue) is linked to man > > I'd love to hear how we caused global warming on Mars and Titan... > > *Some* of it may be linked to human activity. What we don't know is > whether that amounts to even most of it. > > FoFP > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 29 16:50:03 2009 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:50:03 +0100 Subject: Live 1982 Vinyl Message-ID: Not seen this mentioned before (but if it has apologies) but Amazon have Live 1982 on vinyl listed and it is mentioned in this months Record Collector as being in the Pipeline. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree Listen to Samples of Charlie's album here http://www.musicline.de/player_flash/?pid=0604388334629&tid=0604388334629-0-0&type=product&musicloadurl=&site_variant=de Then join the new Charlie Yahoo discussion group available to join here http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/itsinevitable/?yguid=215509111 to discuss the New Charlie CD Kitchens of Distinction OUT NOW(and anything else Charlie) Terry Thomas Podcast http://www.voiceprintwebradio.com/podcasts/terrythomas_interview01.xml From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 29 17:08:41 2009 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:08:41 -0500 Subject: Live 1982 Vinyl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you Dave and Kris!!~! (I knew they'd listen) (and Steve) any label info?? Please keep me posted Steve, and direct me to the nearest dealer who understands that 9 out of 10 people posting LP's need to greet the hanging tree, that will get them here UNBLEMISHED On 7/29/09, Steve Freight wrote: > > Not seen this mentioned before (but if it has apologies) but Amazon have > Live 1982 on vinyl listed and it is mentioned in this months Record > Collector as being in the Pipeline. > > Steve > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > Listen to Samples of Charlie's album here > > http://www.musicline.de/player_flash/?pid=0604388334629&tid=0604388334629-0-0&type=product&musicloadurl=&site_variant=de > Then join the new Charlie Yahoo discussion group available to join here > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/itsinevitable/?yguid=215509111 > to discuss the New Charlie CD Kitchens of Distinction OUT NOW(and anything > else Charlie) > Terry Thomas Podcast > http://www.voiceprintwebradio.com/podcasts/terrythomas_interview01.xml > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 30 05:45:56 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:45:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Paul Mather wrote: > One possibility to consider is to use an online backup such as Mozy or Amazon > S3 as your backup drive. (Be sure to read the SLA very carefully!) That > way, you can offline your storage and disaster recovery headaches to someone > else. (The downside is that it is more expensive than a DIY consumer > solution, but who said enterprise-level solutions necessarily came cheap?:) I have to say that I would never want to trust my backup to an outside agency. Online services go bankrupt sometimes, and then no SLA will bring your stuff back. Or, more simply, they can just have network outages. By all means use this for an offsite restore-in-case-of-disaster level copy but I don't think you want to use it in preference to a home solution. I am now uncomfortably aware that I don't really have much of my stuff backed up anywhere *other* than online, though that online is at least my landlord's machine. Hmm. And yesterday I fixed one of my CD-writers, too. Clearly serendipity is at work. Yours, Jonathan -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jul 30 08:25:46 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:25:46 -0500 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 30 Jul 2009, at 04:45 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Paul Mather wrote: >> One possibility to consider is to use an online backup such as >> Mozy or Amazon S3 as your backup drive. (Be sure to read the SLA >> very carefully!) That way, you can offline your storage and >> disaster recovery headaches to someone else. (The downside is >> that it is more expensive than a DIY consumer solution, but who >> said enterprise-level solutions necessarily came cheap?:) > > I have to say that I would never want to trust my backup to an > outside agency. Online services go bankrupt sometimes, and then no > SLA will bring your stuff back. Or, more simply, they can just have > network outages. By all means use this for an offsite restore-in- > case-of-disaster level copy but I don't think you want to use it in > preference to a home solution. I think that's what Paul was suggesting! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jul 30 09:46:57 2009 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:46:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Online backups (was: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Paul Mather wrote: > >> One possibility to consider is to use an online backup such as Mozy >> or Amazon S3 as your backup drive. (Be sure to read the SLA very >> carefully!) That way, you can offline your storage and disaster >> recovery headaches to someone else. (The downside is that it is >> more expensive than a DIY consumer solution, but who said >> enterprise-level solutions necessarily came cheap?:) > > I have to say that I would never want to trust my backup to an > outside agency. That's a fair comment, although, truth be told, you already do. For example, you trust Seagate, Western Digital, Maxtor, and the likes not to produce buggy firmware that will brick your drive suddenly. (Seagate Barracuda problems, anybody?:) You are trusting them to be truthful about failure rates and failure modes. You also are trusting the outside agency that wrote your backup software to produce something that actually backs up everything needed to restore properly (permissions, ACLs, xattrs, flags, resource forks, etc.). You're also trusting them to document it properly so you can understand its shortcomings and implement it properly. To be fair, these are quite rare events, but then so are large enterprise storage vendors going bankrupt without any lead time whatsoever; network outages in agencies with SLAs specifying five nines of availability; and so on. > Online services go bankrupt sometimes, and then no SLA will bring > your stuff back. Or, more simply, they can just have network > outages. By all means use this for an offsite restore-in-case-of- > disaster level copy but I don't think you want to use it in > preference to a home solution. One of the attractive things I see regarding online backups is that it solves quite nicely the thorny dilemma of offsite backups. Lots of people who undertake backups still store them onsite, and then, when something nasty like their house gets flooded; burns down; or gets broken into and their equipment stolen, are left up the creek without a paddle because they've now lost their active data AND their backups. That's a disaster recovery no-no. I'm involved with the MetaArchive initiative, which is an offshoot of the LOCKSS (Lots of Copies Keeps Stuff Safe) project. When they recently announced they were moving the Properties Server into the Amazon Cloud I had the exact same reaction as you did: do we have a non-cloud instance to use as a backup?!? Our migration into using cloud computing is measured, deliberate, and gradual. I would expect anyone using an online backup solution to be wary, too, and to exercise due diligence. But, I think we should be realistic about the risks, and, to be honest, I think the risk of making a hash of implementing a home-brew backup solution is as great as---or greater than---using an online one. (Hands up those that use "RAID" as a backup solution. [You do know it isn't, don't you?] Hands up those who do that have actually simulated a drive failure and replacement...) I believe that the more people that use online storage such as Amazon S3 the more reliable it will become: we will view it much the same as we do as electricity in the industrialised world: something that is "just there." More and more software supports online storage, including even some FTP clients. More and more third-party backup solutions are leveraging online storage, too. One I discovered recently that looks very interesting is a project by the FreeBSD Security Officer, Colin Percival (author of bsdiff, portsnap, and freebsd-update), called Tarsnap (see http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2008-11-10-tarsnap-public-beta.html and http://www.tarsnap.com). It describes itself as "online backups for the truly paranoid," which, I have to admit, does warm the cockles of my heart. The good news is that its prepaid pricing model is currently profitable even with the relatively low economies of scale provided by its paid private beta phase, meaning the service is self- sustaining. And, at only $0.30/GiB/month storage space and $0.30/GiB of bandwidth used, it is cheaper than all the current crop of online backup services. (And, actually, you only pay for the storage and bandwidth you in fact consume: the rate is actually 300 picodollars per byte of bandwidth used and 300 picodollars per byte-month of storage. This means that if you are only storing a few MiB of data [for address books, bookmarks, contacts, etc.] you'll only be deducted a fraction of a cent from your prepaid account total each month.) > I am now uncomfortably aware that I don't really have much of my > stuff backed up anywhere *other* than online, though that online is > at least my landlord's machine. Hey, don't knock it. Reciprocal agreements are one way to go: you back up my data and I'll back up yours. (Of course, make sure to use a backup client that supports encryption to ensure privacy.) Cheers, Paul. From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 30 11:54:29 2009 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:54:29 -0700 Subject: OFF: Online backups (was: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy) Message-ID: Given that the amount of data that I wish to *seriously* back up is not that large, I have seriously considered making a big zip or tar file and gmailing it to myself. (I may yet.) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Paul Mather Date: Thursday, Jul 30, 2009 9:56 am Subject: OFF: Online backups (was: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy) To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On Jul 30, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Paul Mather wrote: >> One possibility to consider is to use an online backup such as Mozy > or Amazon S3 as your backup drive. (Be sure to read the SLA very > carefully!) That way, you can offline your storage and disaster > recovery headaches to someone else. (The downside is that it is > more expensive than a DIY consumer solution, but who said > enterprise-level solutions necessarily came cheap?:) > I have to say that I would never want to trust my backup to an outside agency. That's a fair comment, although, truth be told, you already do. For example, you trust Seagate, Western Digital, Maxtor, and the likes not to produce buggy firmware that will brick your drive suddenly. (Seagate Barracuda problems, anybody?:) You are trusting them to be truthful about failure rates and failure modes. You also are trusting the outside agency that wrote your backup software to produce something that actually backs up everything needed to restore properly (permissions, ACLs, xattrs, flags, resource forks, etc.). You're also trusting them to document it properly so you can understand its shortcomings and implement it properly. To be fair, these are quite rare events, but then so are large enterprise storage vendors going bankrupt without any lead time whatsoever; network outages in agencies with SLAs specifying five nines of availability; and so on. > Online services go bankrupt sometimes, and then no SLA will bring your stuff back. Or, more simply, they can just have network outages. By all means use this for an offsite restore-in-case-of- disaster level copy but I don't think you want to use it in preference to a home solution. One of the attractive things I see regarding online backups is that it solves quite nicely the thorny dilemma of offsite backups. Lots of people who undertake backups still store them onsite, and then, when something nasty like their house gets flooded; burns down; or gets broken into and their equipment stolen, are left up the creek without a paddle because they've now lost their active data AND their backups. That's a disaster recovery no-no. I'm involved with the MetaArchive initiative, which is an offshoot of the LOCKSS (Lots of Copies Keeps Stuff Safe) project. When they recently announced they were moving the Properties Server into the Amazon Cloud I had the exact same reaction as you did: do we have a non-cloud instance to use as a backup?!? Our migration into using cloud computing is measured, deliberate, and gradual. I would expect anyone using an online backup solution to be wary, too, and to exercise due diligence. But, I think we should be realistic about the risks, and, to be honest, I think the risk of making a hash of implementing a home-brew backup solution is as great as---or greater than---using an online one. (Hands up those that use "RAID" as a backup solution. [You do know it isn't, don't you?] Hands up those who do that have actually simulated a drive failure and replacement...) I believe that the more people that use online storage such as Amazon S3 the more reliable it will become: we will view it much the same as we do as electricity in the industrialised world: something that is "just there." More and more software supports online storage, including even some FTP clients. More and more third-party backup solutions are leveraging online storage, too. One I discovered recently that looks very interesting is a project by the FreeBSD Security Officer, Colin Percival (author of bsdiff, portsnap, and freebsd-update), called Tarsnap (see http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2008-11-10-tarsnap-public-beta.html and http://www.tarsnap.com). It describes itself as "online backups for the truly paranoid," which, I have to admit, does warm the cockles of my heart. The good news is that its prepaid pricing model is currently profitable even with the relatively low economies of scale provided by its paid private beta phase, meaning the service is self- sustaining. And, at only $0.30/GiB/month storage space and $0.30/GiB of bandwidth used, it is cheaper than all the current crop of online backup services. (And, actually, you only pay for the storage and bandwidth you in fact consume: the rate is actually 300 picodollars per byte of bandwidth used and 300 picodollars per byte-month of storage. This means that if you are only storing a few MiB of data [for address books, bookmarks, contacts, etc.] you'll only be deducted a fraction of a cent from your prepaid account total each month.) > I am now uncomfortably aware that I don't really have much of my stuff backed up anywhere *other* than online, though that online is at least my landlord's machine. Hey, don't knock it. Reciprocal agreements are one way to go: you back up my data and I'll back up yours. (Of course, make sure to use a backup client that supports encryption to ensure privacy.) Cheers, Paul. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jul 30 12:12:47 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:12:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Online backups (was: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy) In-Reply-To: <3331799667.8473103@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 30 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Steve wrote: > Given that the amount of data that I wish to *seriously* back up is > not that large, I have seriously considered making a big zip or tar > file and gmailing it to myself. Given that I'm closing in a terabyte of music to back up (and that's probably not a lot in comparison to the collections of some on this list!), I probably shouldn't take that route .... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 30 13:20:29 2009 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:20:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Alien Autopsy In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:25:46 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jul 30 14:45:55 2009 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:45:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: Online backups (was: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy) In-Reply-To: <672DFABF-C3DF-4D41-ADF0-4E87EE9D1E71@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Jul 30, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 30 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Steve wrote: >> Given that the amount of data that I wish to *seriously* back up is >> not that large, I have seriously considered making a big zip or tar >> file and gmailing it to myself. > > > Given that I'm closing in a terabyte of music to back up (and that's > probably not a lot in comparison to the collections of some on this > list!), I probably shouldn't take that route .... Aw, c'mon Carl, show a little moxie. You just have to sign up for a little over 140 Gmail accounts and then fire off a little under 42,000 e-mails to archive your terabyte of music. Sheesh, kids today, don't know they're born. Why, when I were a lad we had to send e-mails by rearranging wires on a plugboard and flicking switches for each character... >;-) Cheers, Paul. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 30 15:49:37 2009 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:49:37 +0100 Subject: Judgement Division strikes Message-ID: On 29th July advance panzer units of Judgement Visual Division assaulted the enemy lines at Fernhill Farm N. Somerset. All enemy resistance was crushed in the first assault and the Garrison of the Blessed, relieved. end message AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR Discover the UK Green Festival scene REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jul 30 15:58:53 2009 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:58:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Online backups (was: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 30 Jul 2009, at 13:45, Paul Mather wrote: > Aw, c'mon Carl, show a little moxie. You just have to sign up for > a little over 140 Gmail accounts and then fire off a little under > 42,000 e-mails to archive your terabyte of music. I'll need to get some spambot software! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Thu Jul 30 17:08:18 2009 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:08:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Online backups (was: Re: HW: Alien Autopsy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > Aw, c'mon Carl, show a little moxie. You just have to sign up for a > little over 140 Gmail accounts and then fire off a little under 42,000 > e-mails to archive your terabyte of music. > > Sheesh, kids today, don't know they're born. Why, when I were a lad > we had to send e-mails by rearranging wires on a plugboard and > flicking switches for each character... > > >;-) You had an Altair? I had to type all mine in on an IBM 029. I'd love to go with LTO-4 if the prices weren't so high. I wish their average life expectancy was a little higher as well. It'd be nice if there was an affordable holographic storage that would hold a few petabytes, have unlimited writes, and lasted a few centuries. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 30 17:55:47 2009 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:55:47 +0100 Subject: OFF:Roadburn Streams In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922C9808F34@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 May 2009, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > Here are three of the great bands from this year's roadburn festival that you can hear in good quality streaming audio. > > Amon D??l II - http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/ondemand/41972244 > Farflung - http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/ondemand/41972269 > Vibravoid - http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/ondemand/41972308 > Enjoy... The list knows by now how rare it is for me to break my swearless practice so I trust you will take my word when I say that that Farflung set is *bloody excellent*, and endearing also for how glad Tommy was to have an audience of any size; mainly however it just hammers through the material without concessions to time or venue, and spreads the work across all the old albums as well as a good tranche of the new one. I would *recommend* this as listening. Also, Carl, you entirely need to check out the 2008 set from Ira de Dios. I was there and the recording is as good as the set then, plus which, it ought to flip a number of your switches being (a) heavy, (b) jammed and stoning, (c) mainly vocalised in Latin American Spanish and (d) ornamented with numerous rather indulgent but not over-long guitar breaks. I tell you: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/ondemand/39702919 Probably not just Carl, either, Odd comparison to the set by Kruger, which I remember as being crushing and completely masterful, and comes across in proper recording as smug and rather go-nowhere. I suppose it makes a lot of difference when you can't hear the words, but I'm not used to the difference being in that direction. Also, of course, it was much louder than I dare play it at home and I was drunk and emotional, but even so, I just can't get into this one the way it was live. Odd. Oh well, that's why we pay for tickdts innit, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Cambridge jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ======================================================================= "With Capitalism, man exploits man. With Socialism, it is exactly opposite" -Robert Anton Wilson