From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 2 11:25:50 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:25:50 +0100 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <669388.2403.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 06:36:46PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer typed out: > they thoug > http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/eggfoolejung/index.html > > they thought it unlikely that such a primitive mind could ever take over the world of art bwahaha Even I would have to admit that some of that is quite good. Like the National Steam cover especially, which is a pity as I have never thought that I wanted the album.... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 2 12:20:58 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:20:58 -0700 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation Message-ID: Alright Mike when are you going to give up this pretense of not being American? Dammit man, all you need at this point is a handlebar moustache and a 10 gallon hat. Steve -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes Date: Friday, Aug 29, 2008 6:32 am Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET mike coleman writes: > I saw a newslink that teachers can "pack heat" here in the states now?? I guess I certainly would want to if I did that profession!! I raised a pint to that last weekend. It's time teachers took seriously their responsibilities for the safety of their pupils and were trained and ready to shoot would-be rappage-killers. Oh that we weren't so cowardly in my country. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 2 12:45:23 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:45:23 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Steve Swann's message of Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:20:58 -0700 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 2 12:49:16 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:49:16 EDT Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation Message-ID: Not to mention the accent. Steve. In a message dated 02/09/2008 17:46:07 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: Oh, I have a cowboy hat bought at Steamboat Springs. No wife, no horse and no mustache though... From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Sep 2 13:48:15 2008 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:48:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Silver Machine - first metal record In-Reply-To: Message-ID: According to one of the two fellows at http://soundopinions.com/shownotes/2008/082908/shownotes.html, Silver Machine is the birthpoint of heavy metal. The Lemmy version of the song is given a spin. The podcast is available from the link above. From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 2 16:07:32 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:07:32 +0000 Subject: Off: Litmus News In-Reply-To: <6d21f3f9bc9d3a63b5704cbe5d5620d4@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Hi all, Firstly, some news on the recording front; the band are booked to go back to Foel Studio in North Wales in November in order to finish off the vocals for the new album.? Hopefully, an intense weekend should see everything finished. There are a lot of gigs coming up; details can be found at http://www.litmusmusic.co.uk or http://www.myspace.com/litmusspacerock. However, here is a list: 5th September 2008 Kosmische Club Corsica Studio Units 4/5 Elephant Road London SE17 1LB 20th September 2008 The Twist 25 Military Road Colchester Essex CO1 2AD 27th September 2008 The Black Swan Festival Bath Racecourse Lansdown Bath BA1 9BU 11th October 2008 The Grosvenor 17 Sidney Road Stockwell W9 0TP 7th November 2008 The Standard Music Venue 1 Blackhorse Lane London E17 6DS 5th December 2008 Hard Rock Hell 2 Pontins Prestatyn Sands Central Beach, Barkby Avenue, Prestatyn, Denbighshire, North Wales LL19 7LA 13th December 2008 Rise Above Records Anniversary Event University of London Union Malet Street London WC1E 7HY The gig on October 11th should be particularly interesting as it is a mini-all dayer with Xoo, Peyote Guru, Trev Thoms and Kevin Ellis, Bruise and the Red Fishes, as well as Litmus.? Come along and enjoy an eclectic selection of music from some of the best acts around. Finally, but most importantly, we would like to welcome keyboard wizard Oli Mayne to Litmus.? The search for a keyboard player has been a long one but? the wait has been worthwhile as Oli is exactly what we need.? Best wishes to you all and hope to see you soon! Colin Manager - Litmus From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Sep 3 11:06:22 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:06:22 +0000 Subject: OFF: SLOTERDIJK two 'new' 'old' cuts on our myspace site: Message-ID: Two 'new' 'old' cuts on our myspace site: 'Sonic Attack' ( Moorcock ): Live version from 'The Garden Party II' ( 2003 ) ' The Thunderbirds' ( Burro ) Live version from 'The Traveling Outerspace Spectacular' tour 2000 ( supporting Harvey Bainbridge of Hawkwind ) http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Wed Sep 3 18:12:58 2008 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (mark) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 23:12:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Nik: Youtube Videos Message-ID: Has anybody else noticed the Inner City Unit and Robert Calvert videos that have started to appear on Youtube in the last 3 months or so? Link: http://www.youtube.com/user/arghyachtess Mark From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 3 19:07:51 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:07:51 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik: Youtube Videos In-Reply-To: <-1254031727244580477@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: No!!! On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:12 PM, mark wrote: > > > Has anybody else noticed the Inner City Unit and Robert Calvert videos that > have started to appear on Youtube in the last 3 months or so? > > > > Link: http://www.youtube.com/user/arghyachtess > > > > Mark > > > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Sep 4 16:40:17 2008 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:40:17 +0000 Subject: HW: Nik: Youtube Videos In-Reply-To: <008901c90e12$399cfe40$acd6fac0$@von-bargen@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks for the link Mark!! Well worth checking out!! Cheers, Mick --- On Wed, 3/9/08, mark wrote: > From: mark > Subject: HW: Nik: Youtube Videos > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008, 11:12 PM > Has anybody else noticed the Inner City Unit and Robert > Calvert videos that > have started to appear on Youtube in the last 3 months or > so? > > > > Link: http://www.youtube.com/user/arghyachtess > > > > Mark From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 4 16:42:19 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:42:19 +0100 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are Message-ID: Just been watching this and have to say the more I hear OHWA the more I like it. It was my fav track from TMTYL and if this had been a part of Electric Teepee it would be hailed a classic. As it is, it is probably derided because people seem anti TMTYL. It is to me one of my fav laid back tracks by the band and easily beats Blue Shift etc. Oh and I was in raptures at this concert when they played my top 3 Hawk songs, 7 by 7, Paradox and Brainbox Pollution. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 4 17:14:32 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:14:32 -0500 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 04 Sep 2008, at 15:42 , Steve Freight wrote: > Just been watching this and have to say the more I hear OHWA the > more I like > it. > It was my fav track from TMTYL and if this had been a part of Electric > Teepee it would be hailed a classic. As it is, it is probably derided > because people seem anti TMTYL. Actually, I remember liking OHWA quite well when I heard it live. Nothing fancy, but it "sounds like Hawkwind"! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Sun Sep 7 18:48:04 2008 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (mark) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 23:48:04 +0100 Subject: FW: Upcoming Hawkwind Tribute Album? Message-ID: Hey, Chanced across another mention of Hawkwind in the free newspaper Metro. This time it as in relation to a Liverpool band called Mugstar. Full article here: http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/article.html?in_article_id=290643 &in_page_id=202 The lie that caught my eye went: The band are also acknowledging the debt they owe to original space-rockers Hawkwind by contributing tracks to a forthcoming tribute album. So, anybody know anything? Mark From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Sep 8 07:06:17 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:06:17 +0000 Subject: Almost an all-dayer! In-Reply-To: <004301c9113b$cc261400$64723c00$@von-bargen@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: Dear all, The following rather splendid event is being held at the Grosvenor (17 Sidney Road, Stockwell, London, W9 0TP) on Saturday, 11th October: 15:00-15:45: Xoo (www.myspace.com/xoospace) 16:15-17:00: Peyote Guru (Chris Cambridge & Peyote Lee www.myspace.com/peyoteguru) 17:30-18:15: Kev and Trev (www.myspace.com/trevandkev) 18:45-19:30: Bruise (www.myspace.com/bruiseuk) 20:00-20:45: The Red Fishes (www.myspace.com/theredfishes) 21:15-23:00: Litmus (www.myspace.com/litmusspacerock) Admission is ?8.00 ? From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 08:15:59 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:15:59 +0100 Subject: Almost an all-dayer! In-Reply-To: <168190.91064.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 12:06 PM To: Subject: Almost an all-dayer! > Dear all, > > The following rather splendid event is being held at the Grosvenor (17 > Sidney Road, Stockwell, London, W9 0TP) on Saturday, 11th October: > > 15:00-15:45: Xoo (www.myspace.com/xoospace) > 16:15-17:00: Peyote Guru (Chris Cambridge & Peyote Lee > www.myspace.com/peyoteguru) > 17:30-18:15: Kev and Trev (www.myspace.com/trevandkev) > 18:45-19:30: Bruise (www.myspace.com/bruiseuk) > 20:00-20:45: The Red Fishes (www.myspace.com/theredfishes) > 21:15-23:00: Litmus (www.myspace.com/litmusspacerock) > > Admission is ?8.00 > > > > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Sep 8 08:19:55 2008 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:19:55 -0500 Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page Message-ID: Just in case folks don't read the blog: "Jason Stuart We are very sorry to have to let you know, that our keyboard player Jason Stuart is seriously ill. On Friday he was rushed into hospital with an aneurysm which unfortunately lodged in his brain and caused a haemorrhage. The doctors have been trying to save his life ever since. His condition is very serious indeed. Please send positive thoughts and prayers. We will update you on his condition as soon as we have more news." Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-6090 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 8 10:41:09 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 07:41:09 -0700 Subject: Widowmaker LP Message-ID: Saw a used copy of the Widowmaker LP with Huw Loyd Langton and Ariel Bender the other day. Any comments, recommendations, jeers on this? Gary From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 8 11:10:01 2008 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:10:01 -0400 Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page/Jason In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi All. This terrible news hit me like a ton of bricks. All my best wishes and positive energy are being directed at Jason. I've had the great good fortune to have met and spoken to him several times, and I couldn't think of a kinder, warmer, friendlier, more life loving guy. I really hope that we'll hear some better news regarding his health and prognosis very soon. All my best thoughts to him, his family, and the band and the crew. Yours, Eli Friedman -----Original Message----- From: Arin Komins To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 8:19 am Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page Just in case folks don't read the blog:? ? "Jason Stuart? ? We are very sorry to have to let you know, that our keyboard player Jason Stuart is seriously ill.? On Friday he was rushed into hospital with an aneurysm which unfortunately lodged in his brain and caused a haemorrhage.? The doctors have been trying to save his life ever since.? His condition is very serious indeed. Please send positive thoughts and prayers.? We will update you on his condition as soon as we have more news."? ? Arin? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------? Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu? Assistant Director - Solutions Arc hitecture? University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087? 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-6090? ------------------------------------------------------------------? From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Sep 8 11:14:20 2008 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:14:20 -0400 Subject: Widowmaker LP In-Reply-To: <299648.12462.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I like it, bought it years and years ago, still sounds good now..albeit in a classic 70's stylee.. -----Original Message----- From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:41 Subject: Widowmaker LP Saw a used copy of the Widowmaker LP with Huw Loyd Langton and Ariel Bender the other day. Any comments, recommendations, jeers on this? Gary ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Sep 8 11:20:21 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:20:21 +0000 Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Best wishes to Jason and hopes for a speedy and complete recovery from everyone in and involved with Litmus. --- On Mon, 8/9/08, Arin Komins wrote: From: Arin Komins Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, 8 September, 2008, 1:19 PM Just in case folks don't read the blog: "Jason Stuart We are very sorry to have to let you know, that our keyboard player Jason Stuart is seriously ill. On Friday he was rushed into hospital with an aneurysm which unfortunately lodged in his brain and caused a haemorrhage. The doctors have been trying to save his life ever since. His condition is very serious indeed. Please send positive thoughts and prayers. We will update you on his condition as soon as we have more news." Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-6090 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 13:05:53 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:05:53 -0500 Subject: Widowmaker LP In-Reply-To: <8CADFDCB41A0D36-750-1A17@FWM-D43.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 9/8/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: > > I like it, bought it years and years ago, still sounds good now..albeit in > a classic 70's stylee.. I recommend the first one myself, which is the assumed article here, it is on CD in case you didin't know, it rocks, and Geezer Butler stole one of the bass lines from this or the other one (likely this) to create the "Heaven and Hell" bass line.... From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Sep 8 13:23:12 2008 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:23:12 -0400 Subject: Widowmaker LP In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809081005n515327e0qa33aa98c19633cc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >From black-sabbath.com The bass line for Heaven & Hell was written by Geoff Nicholls. Geoff Nicholls was originally brought in to replace Geezer Butler, but moved to keyboards when Geezer returned to the band before the album was recorded. There's another rumour that the bass on this album was actually played by Craig Gruber, and not Geezer, but this is largely unfounded. Craig was briefly tried out for bass during the period that Geezer quit, but did not formally join. All the songs were written before Geezer returned - the only song that Geezer actually had a hand in writing was Neon Knights, which was the final song recorded. fun facts. I only just read that because a friend bougth the album for me. replete with a lynn curlee cover (the Agents of Fortune cover creator.) hmmm ... there's a contest : 6 degrees of BOC-L. J. On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:05:53 -0500, mike coleman wrote: > On 9/8/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: >> >> I like it, bought it years and years ago, still sounds good now..albeit > in >> a classic 70's stylee.. > > > I recommend the first one myself, which is the assumed article here, it is > on CD in case you didin't know, it rocks, and Geezer Butler stole one of > the > bass lines from this or the other one (likely this) to create the "Heaven > and Hell" bass line.... From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 13:49:22 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:49:22 -0700 Subject: Widowmaker LP Message-ID: Btw, if any of you are fans of the Dio-era Black Sabbath, definitely go see them as Heaven & Hell. I've seen them twice recently, touring with Megadeth (who were also awesome) and more recently with Priest and Motorhead. They were terrific both times. I never thought I would have a chance to hear "Sign of the Southern Cross" or "Falling Off the Edge of the World" live... :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jason Scruton Date: Monday, Sep 8, 2008 1:27 pm Subject: Re: Widowmaker LP To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >From black-sabbath.com The bass line for Heaven & Hell was written by Geoff Nicholls. Geoff Nicholls was originally brought in to replace Geezer Butler, but moved to keyboards when Geezer returned to the band before the album was recorded. There's another rumour that the bass on this album was actually played by Craig Gruber, and not Geezer, but this is largely unfounded. Craig was briefly tried out for bass during the period that Geezer quit, but did not formally join. All the songs were written before Geezer returned - the only song that Geezer actually had a hand in writing was Neon Knights, which was the final song recorded. fun facts. I only just read that because a friend bougth the album for me. replete with a lynn curlee cover (the Agents of Fortune cover creator.) hmmm ... there's a contest : 6 degrees of BOC-L. J. On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:05:53 -0500, mike coleman wrote: On 9/8/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: > > I like it, bought it years and years ago, still sounds good now..albeit in > a classic 70's stylee.. I recommend the first one myself, which is the assumed article here, it is on CD in case you didin't know, it rocks, and Geezer Butler stole one of the bass lines from this or the other one (likely this) to create the "Heaven and Hell" bass line.... From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 8 15:07:08 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:07:08 -0700 Subject: Heaven and Hell Message-ID: I definitely like their new live LP more than "Live Evil." Dio is best left to sing songs he helped write. Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 12:49:22 PM Subject: Re: Widowmaker LP Btw, if any of you are fans of the Dio-era Black Sabbath, definitely go see them as Heaven & Hell.? I've seen them twice recently, touring with Megadeth (who were also awesome) and more recently with Priest and Motorhead.? They were terrific both times.? I never thought I would have a chance to hear "Sign of the Southern Cross" or "Falling Off the Edge of the World" live...? ? :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jason Scruton Date: Monday, Sep 8, 2008 1:27 pm Subject: Re: Widowmaker LP To: Reply-? ? BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From black-sabbath.com The bass line for Heaven & Hell was written by Geoff Nicholls. Geoff Nicholls was originally brought in to replace Geezer Butler, but moved to keyboards when Geezer returned to the band before the album was recorded. There's another rumour that the bass on this album was actually played by Craig Gruber, and not Geezer, but this is largely unfounded.? Craig was briefly tried out for bass during the period that Geezer quit, but did not formally join. All the songs were written before Geezer returned - the only song that Geezer actually had a hand in writing was Neon Knights, which was the final song recorded. fun facts. I only just read that because a friend bougth the album for me. replete with a lynn curlee cover (the Agents of Fortune cover creator.)? hmmm ... there's a contest : 6 degrees of BOC-L. J. On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:05:53 -0500, mike coleman wrote: On 9/8/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: > > I like it, bought it years and years ago, still sounds good now..albeit in > a classic 70's stylee.. I recommend the first one myself, which is the assumed article here, it is on CD in case you didin't know, it rocks, and Geezer Butler stole one of the bass lines from this or the other one (likely this) to create? the "Heaven and Hell" bass line.... From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 8 15:52:38 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:52:38 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <466635.75199.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah, it used to be I barely rated Dio-era Sabbath, but I listened to a lot of stuff in the first time in a long time when Rhino put out the Dio-era Sabbath compilation (and the few new tracks weren't bad at all, though I still think the last Iommi solo album, with Glenn Hughes, had some better stuff). But then the new live Heaven & Hell DVD (which, unfortunately, I don't own, but did see before I left the UK) *really* impressed me. Particularly for some songs from _Dehumanizer_, which I had never really liked the sound on, were just *huge* live. (Of course, it may help that they?re probably played live now at least a half-step lower than on the records. :) Anyway, good stuff. Leaving the UK, I missed my chance to see the band in London last December, but I _will_ pick up that live DVD when next I'm in the States and will be watching for the new studio album next year. And, of course, if they come down to Colombia, I?ll go see them. :) Cheers, Carl On 08 Sep 2008, at 14:07 , gary shindler wrote: > I definitely like their new live LP more than "Live Evil." Dio is > best left to sing songs he helped write. > Gary > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Steve Swann > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 12:49:22 PM > Subject: Re: Widowmaker LP > > Btw, if any of you are fans of the Dio-era Black Sabbath, > definitely go see them as Heaven & Hell. I've seen them twice > recently, touring with Megadeth (who were also awesome) and more > recently with Priest and Motorhead. They were terrific both > times. I never thought I would have a chance to hear "Sign of the > Southern Cross" or "Falling Off the Edge of the World" live... > :) > > Steve -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 8 16:04:25 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:04:25 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell Message-ID: It's interesting to see Dio get his due now. While he was with first with Sabbath there seemed to be so much mudslinging between the Sabbath and Ozzy camps.? I really like "Rainbow Rising" and think it could be interesting if he worked with Ritchie Blackmore again. Unfortunately Cozy Powell's out of the picture and Blackmore's playing renaissance festival music. ??? Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 2:52:38 PM Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell Yeah, it used to be I barely rated Dio-era Sabbath, but I listened to? a lot of stuff in the first time in a long time when Rhino put out? the Dio-era Sabbath compilation (and the few new tracks weren't bad? at all, though I still think the last Iommi solo album, with Glenn? Hughes, had some better stuff).? But then the new live Heaven & Hell? DVD (which, unfortunately, I don't own, but did see before I left the? UK) *really* impressed me.? Particularly for some songs from? _Dehumanizer_, which I had never really liked the sound on, were just? *huge* live.? (Of course, it may help that they?re probably played? live now at least a half-step lower than on the records. :) Anyway, good stuff.? Leaving the UK, I missed my chance to see the? band in London last December, but I _will_ pick up that live DVD when? next I'm in the States and will be watching for the new studio album? next year.? And, of course, if they come down to Colombia, I?ll go? see them. :) Cheers, Carl On 08 Sep 2008, at 14:07 , gary shindler wrote: > I definitely like their new live LP more than "Live Evil." Dio is? > best left to sing songs he helped write. > Gary > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Steve Swann > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 12:49:22 PM > Subject: Re: Widowmaker LP > > Btw, if any of you are fans of the Dio-era Black Sabbath,? > definitely go see them as Heaven & Hell.? I've seen them twice? > recently, touring with Megadeth (who were also awesome) and more? > recently with Priest and Motorhead.? They were terrific both? > times.? I never thought I would have a chance to hear "Sign of the? > Southern Cross" or "Falling Off the Edge of the World" live...? > ? :) > > Steve -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 8 17:40:14 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:40:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <583598.17912.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 08 Sep 2008, at 15:04 , gary shindler wrote: > It's interesting to see Dio get his due now. While he was with > first with Sabbath there seemed to be so much mudslinging between > the Sabbath and Ozzy camps. 'Course I was about 9 then! :) On the other hand, '80s metal seems to be enjoying a retro- renaissance. A decade ago everyone was still excited about the original Sabbath lineup's influence on grunge, and that lineup was just dusting off for their reunion (which, other than loads of subsequent tours, never produced much new). And perhaps it's now just Dio's turn. :) Mmm, checking it now, I still think Dehumanizer sounds kinda dodgy -- but the same songs in the current live touring are amazing. :) I also think there's always something to hear when Iommi's playing, even in that rather rough late 80s period. And even though Hughes vocals are not my favorite, I think the Iommi _Fused_ album has some monster stuff on it. So I also think there's not unreasonable hope for the "Mob Rules" lineup squeezing out a decent new album. > I really like "Rainbow Rising" and think it could be interesting if > he worked with Ritchie Blackmore again. Unfortunately Cozy Powell's > out of the picture and Blackmore's playing renaissance festival music. Yeah, I don't see that reunion happening anytime real soon! ;) On the other hand, having come to terms with Dio-era Sabbath, I know that I oughta go check out Rainbow some more. (However, when I go listen to _Holy Diver_ it still doesn't do that much for me.) -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 18:14:07 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:14:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <2ABCE667-00D2-42B6-AD5A-3F9B2F7B7015@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Rainbow kicks ass. So does elf On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 08 Sep 2008, at 15:04 , gary shindler wrote: > >> It's interesting to see Dio get his due now. While he was with first with >> Sabbath there seemed to be so much mudslinging between the Sabbath and Ozzy >> camps. >> > > > 'Course I was about 9 then! :) > > On the other hand, '80s metal seems to be enjoying a retro-renaissance. A > decade ago everyone was still excited about the original Sabbath lineup's > influence on grunge, and that lineup was just dusting off for their reunion > (which, other than loads of subsequent tours, never produced much new). And > perhaps it's now just Dio's turn. :) > > Mmm, checking it now, I still think Dehumanizer sounds kinda dodgy -- but > the same songs in the current live touring are amazing. :) > > I also think there's always something to hear when Iommi's playing, even in > that rather rough late 80s period. And even though Hughes vocals are not my > favorite, I think the Iommi _Fused_ album has some monster stuff on it. So > I also think there's not unreasonable hope for the "Mob Rules" lineup > squeezing out a decent new album. > > > I really like "Rainbow Rising" and think it could be interesting if he >> worked with Ritchie Blackmore again. Unfortunately Cozy Powell's out of the >> picture and Blackmore's playing renaissance festival music. >> > > > Yeah, I don't see that reunion happening anytime real soon! ;) On the > other hand, having come to terms with Dio-era Sabbath, I know that I oughta > go check out Rainbow some more. (However, when I go listen to _Holy Diver_ > it still doesn't do that much for me.) > > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > I've had neon knights stuck in my head for god knows how long now -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 18:15:28 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:15:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sent this to the wrong list On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Owen O'Neill wrote: > Rainbow kicks ass. So does elf > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> On 08 Sep 2008, at 15:04 , gary shindler wrote: >> >>> It's interesting to see Dio get his due now. While he was with first with >>> Sabbath there seemed to be so much mudslinging between the Sabbath and Ozzy >>> camps. >>> >> >> >> 'Course I was about 9 then! :) >> >> On the other hand, '80s metal seems to be enjoying a retro-renaissance. A >> decade ago everyone was still excited about the original Sabbath lineup's >> influence on grunge, and that lineup was just dusting off for their reunion >> (which, other than loads of subsequent tours, never produced much new). And >> perhaps it's now just Dio's turn. :) >> >> Mmm, checking it now, I still think Dehumanizer sounds kinda dodgy -- but >> the same songs in the current live touring are amazing. :) >> >> I also think there's always something to hear when Iommi's playing, even >> in that rather rough late 80s period. And even though Hughes vocals are not >> my favorite, I think the Iommi _Fused_ album has some monster stuff on it. >> So I also think there's not unreasonable hope for the "Mob Rules" lineup >> squeezing out a decent new album. >> >> >> I really like "Rainbow Rising" and think it could be interesting if he >>> worked with Ritchie Blackmore again. Unfortunately Cozy Powell's out of the >>> picture and Blackmore's playing renaissance festival music. >>> >> >> >> Yeah, I don't see that reunion happening anytime real soon! ;) On the >> other hand, having come to terms with Dio-era Sabbath, I know that I oughta >> go check out Rainbow some more. (However, when I go listen to _Holy Diver_ >> it still doesn't do that much for me.) >> >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > I've had neon knights stuck in my head for god knows how long now > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 8 18:26:19 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:26:19 -0500 Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Checking the blog, I understand that Jason has died. :( Another loss to us all. :( Carl On 08 Sep 2008, at 07:19 , Arin Komins wrote: > Just in case folks don't read the blog: > "Jason Stuart > > We are very sorry to have to let you know, that our keyboard player > Jason Stuart is seriously ill. > On Friday he was rushed into hospital with an aneurysm which > unfortunately lodged in his brain and caused a haemorrhage. > The doctors have been trying to save his life ever since. > His condition is very serious indeed. Please send positive thoughts > and prayers. > We will update you on his condition as soon as we have more news." > > Arin -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 18:45:33 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:45:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell, much more off than off used to be off Message-ID: I always like whatever scrambling process happens at the end of Owen's submissions....... like now......it's got a delta-thing, and so alien > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 18:49:58 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:49:58 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell Message-ID: You definitely should check out Rainbow. "Stargazer" from Rainbow Rising is one of my favorite songs ever. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Monday, Sep 8, 2008 5:43 pm Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 08 Sep 2008, at 15:04 , gary shindler wrote: It's interesting to see Dio get his due now. While he was with first with Sabbath there seemed to be so much mudslinging between the Sabbath and Ozzy camps. 'Course I was about 9 then! :) On the other hand, '80s metal seems to be enjoying a retro- renaissance. A decade ago everyone was still excited about the original Sabbath lineup's influence on grunge, and that lineup was just dusting off for their reunion (which, other than loads of subsequent tours, never produced much new). And perhaps it's now just Dio's turn. :) Mmm, checking it now, I still think Dehumanizer sounds kinda dodgy -- but the same songs in the current live touring are amazing. :) I also think there's always something to hear when Iommi's playing, even in that rather rough late 80s period. And even though Hughes vocals are not my favorite, I think the Iommi _Fused_ album has some monster stuff on it. So I also think there's not unreasonable hope for the "Mob Rules" lineup squeezing out a decent new album. > I really like "Rainbow Rising" and think it could be interesting if he worked with Ritchie Blackmore again. Unfortunately Cozy Powell's out of the picture and Blackmore's playing renaissance festival music. Yeah, I don't see that reunion happening anytime real soon! ;) On the other hand, having come to terms with Dio-era Sabbath, I know that I oughta go check out Rainbow some more. (However, when I go listen to _Holy Diver_ it still doesn't do that much for me.) -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 8 19:03:16 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:03:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <3303744597.10142650@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 08 Sep 2008, at 17:49 , Steve Swann wrote: > You definitely should check out Rainbow. "Stargazer" from Rainbow > Rising is one of my favorite songs ever. It's on my list! I also remember Esa Holopainen from Amorphis is a big Rainbow fan, so I know this is a bit of rock history that I need to take notice of. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 20:06:11 2008 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:06:11 +0800 Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page In-Reply-To: <21F4A4A1-EE49-4413-B842-482128AC1BAF@carlaz.com> Message-ID:

Quantcast 2008/9/9 Carl Edlund Anderson > Checking the blog, I understand that Jason has died. :( > Another loss to us all. :( > > Carl > > > > On 08 Sep 2008, at 07:19 , Arin Komins wrote: > >> Just in case folks don't read the blog: >> "Jason Stuart >> >> We are very sorry to have to let you know, that our keyboard player Jason >> Stuart is seriously ill. >> On Friday he was rushed into hospital with an aneurysm which unfortunately >> lodged in his brain and caused a haemorrhage. >> The doctors have been trying to save his life ever since. >> His condition is very serious indeed. Please send positive thoughts and >> prayers. >> We will update you on his condition as soon as we have more news." >> >> Arin >> > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 8 20:07:55 2008 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:07:55 +0800 Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page In-Reply-To: <39dabad60809081706h1e2a5471p6c658c6619b43cf8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry. Mistake. That's very sad. He'll be a great loss to Hawkwind. I, for one, really appreciated his keyboard playing as it gave them a more musical sound. 2008/9/9 Jonathan Smith > height="83" width="262">
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Please send positive thoughts and >>> prayers. >>> We will update you on his condition as soon as we have more news." >>> >>> Arin >>> >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 9 06:40:17 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:40:17 +0100 Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:15:00 +0000 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 9 08:30:42 2008 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:30:42 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 8 Sep 2008 to 9 Sep 2008 (#2008-213) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Holy Diver rocks. "Shame on the Night" has the definitive sound of 80s metal bass to me. John Carl said: (However, when I go listen to _Holy Diver_ it still doesn't do that much for me.) I thought "Holy Diver" was a good album. Vivian Campbell played some amazing solos, Jimmy Bain played strong Geezer-like bass lines and Dio's lyrics were good. "Last in Line" was a step down: I remember a song called "Eat Your Heart Out" with really bad lyrics. I faded out from there with Dio, Sabbath, Maiden, etc. Got out of the metal scene into punk, alternative, etc. Gary From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 9 13:08:09 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:08:09 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <683802.75614.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 08 Sep 2008, at 19:46 , gary shindler wrote: > I thought "Holy Diver" was a good album. Vivian Campbell played > some amazing solos, Jimmy Bain played strong Geezer-like bass lines > and Dio's lyrics were good. "Last in Line" was a step down: I > remember a song called "Eat Your Heart Out" with really bad lyrics. > I faded out from there with Dio, Sabbath, Maiden, etc. Got out of > the metal scene into punk, alternative, etc. On 09 Sep 2008, at 07:30 , Swartz, John A. wrote: > Holy Diver rocks. "Shame on the Night" has the definitive sound of > 80s metal bass to me. I'm not saying I don't _like_ Holy Diver at all :) just that (coming to this music decades later) that I like the high points of Dio- Sabbath better than I like most of _Holy Diver_. Perhaps, had I "been there", I'd have different memories ... :) It's OK, well enough; I just don't completely suss its iconic status. Admittedly, Vivian Campbell is justifiably great on _Holy Diver_ ... which just makes it all the more irritating that he's just treading water with latter-day Def Leppard (instead of giving them the real kick in the arse they could use). The 80s metal/hard-rock scene really passed me by back when it was happening (barring, perhaps, Metallica towards the end of the decade), and I certainly didn't really pay it much mind (barring, of course, Motorhead!) in the '90s. Other than being too young to pick up on the early part of the decade, by the end of it there was just too much hair-spray trauma! ;) It was really Bruce Dickinson's excellent solo album _The Chemical Wedding_ towards the end of the '90s that made me prick up my ears and start thinking there was something to be heard in the classic power metal side of things -- I only started giving Iron Maiden and Dio-era Sabbath some personal auditions after that point. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 9 15:31:03 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:31:03 -0700 Subject: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: Carl said: "Admittedly, Vivian Campbell is justifiably great on "Holy Diver" ...? which just makes it all the more irritating that he's just treading? water with latter-day Def Leppard (instead of giving them the real? kick in the arse they could use)." I agree Vivian Campbell's talents are wasted in Def Leppard. He's probably made a lot more $ with them than Dio, though. Carl said: "It was really Bruce Dickinson's?excellent solo album?"The Chemical Wedding" towards the end of the? '90s that made me prick up my ears and start thinking there was?something to be heard in the classic power metal side of things -- I?only started giving Iron Maiden and Dio-era Sabbath some personal?auditions after that point." I only heard Dickinson's first album with "All the Young Dudes." He does have a movie now of "The Chemical Wedding." Iron Maiden was my first rock concert with Fastway and Saxon. It was the "Piece of Mind" tour. Cue up the mullets and spandex. ? Gary From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 9 15:59:30 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:59:30 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <198079.44942.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 09 Sep 2008, at 14:31 , gary shindler wrote: > I only heard Dickinson's first album with "All the Young Dudes." He > does have a movie now of "The Chemical Wedding." That would be _Tattooed Millionaire_, which is IMO in nothing like the same league as _The Chemical Wedding_ (which is effectively a William Blake inspired concept album). TCW has Adrian Smith aboard, with guitar duties rounded out by the mighty (if not widely known) talents of Roy Z, and contains very serious rocking indeed. Go forth and listen of it! (TCW also, with all respect, beats the crap out of Maiden's _Virtual XI_, released the same year. I reckon Steve Harris probably decided that inviting Smith and Dickinson back was a must-do after listening to TCW! ;)) The followup to TCW was _Tyranny of Souls_, which is also quite good (definitely better than _Tattooed Millionaire_, IMO) if not quite as fab as TCW (IMO). It lacks Adrian Smith (both he and Bruce being back in the Maiden fold by then) and is largely a Bruce/Roy Z collaborative effort -- but that still produces an album better than many I've heard. I have heard some fan's pick _Accident of Birth_, the predecessor to TCW as a favorite Dickinson solo album (and it has the same band as TCW, I think), but I definitely prefer TCW and Tyranny. > Iron Maiden was my first rock concert with Fastway and Saxon. It > was the "Piece of Mind" tour. Cue up the mullets and spandex. I've never actually seen Maiden live! I only started warming to them recently (despite getting hooked by a Dickinson solo album 10 years ago) and though I would have seen their concert earlier this year in Bogot?, it was actually already sold out when I arrived late last year. (It was their first ever gig in the country.) Still, not having any long held expectations, I find I really like some of the stuff on the recent _Matter of Life and Death_ album at least as well as anything from the "classic" period. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 9 16:22:48 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:22:48 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: Haven't heard Maiden since the reunion album and I missed the Blaze era (like they'll get him back!). I think Paul Dianno gets a bum rap. The albums he sang on were good.?I doubt Dickinson could sing "Purgatory" as well. I remember thinking Judas Priest were a joke when I saw them with Megadeth and Testament. Halford was stalking the stage like he was a member of Run DMC (before he came out and left). I think their bass player hid through the whole show. Gary? ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 2:59:30 PM Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. On 09 Sep 2008, at 14:31 , gary shindler wrote: > I only heard Dickinson's first album with "All the Young Dudes." He? > does have a movie now of "The Chemical Wedding." That would be _Tattooed Millionaire_, which is IMO in nothing like? the same league as _The Chemical Wedding_ (which is effectively a? William Blake inspired concept album).? TCW has Adrian Smith aboard,? with guitar duties rounded out by the mighty (if not widely known)? talents of Roy Z, and contains very serious rocking indeed.? Go forth? and listen of it!? (TCW also, with all respect, beats the crap out of? Maiden's _Virtual XI_, released the same year.? I reckon Steve Harris? probably decided that inviting Smith and Dickinson back was a must-do? after listening to TCW! ;)) The followup to TCW was _Tyranny of Souls_, which is also quite good? (definitely better than _Tattooed Millionaire_, IMO) if not quite as? fab as TCW (IMO).? It lacks Adrian Smith (both he and Bruce being? back in the Maiden fold by then) and is largely a Bruce/Roy Z? collaborative effort -- but that still produces an album better than? many I've heard.? I have heard some fan's pick _Accident of Birth_,? the predecessor to TCW as a favorite Dickinson solo album (and it has? the same band as TCW, I think), but I definitely prefer TCW and Tyranny. > Iron Maiden was my first rock concert with Fastway and Saxon. It? > was the "Piece of Mind" tour. Cue up the mullets and spandex. I've never actually seen Maiden live!? I only started warming to them? recently (despite getting hooked by a Dickinson solo album 10 years? ago) and though I would have seen their concert earlier this year in? Bogot?, it was actually already sold out when I arrived late last? year.? (It was their first ever gig in the country.)? Still, not? having any long held expectations, I find I really like some of the? stuff on the recent _Matter of Life and Death_ album at least as well? as anything from the "classic" period. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 9 17:15:07 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:15:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <154229.70130.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 09 Sep 2008, at 15:22 , gary shindler wrote: > Haven't heard Maiden since the reunion album and I missed the Blaze > era (like they'll get him back!). > I think Paul Dianno gets a bum rap. The albums he sang on were > good. I doubt Dickinson could sing "Purgatory" as well. The Di'Anno stuff seems all right to me -- though I can understand why they ended up needing to replace him, I can also understand why they still (I think) perform songs from that era. The reunion album was _Brave New World_, I guess; it seems pretty good to me, too, as did the follow-up _Dance of Death_. Still, I like _A Matter of Life and Death_ more (I'm not claiming this is necessarily a widely held opinion :)) than either of those. AMoLaD has got a few long, proggy (let's say it: indulgent!) yet riff-tastic songs that really work for me. There ya go! > I remember thinking Judas Priest were a joke when I saw them with > Megadeth and Testament. Halford was stalking the stage like he was > a member of Run DMC (before he came out and left). I think their > bass player hid through the whole show. Ah, now I never really warmed to Priest, either. I keep thinking that I must be missing something, and need to re-listen to either the classic or modern output, but whatever hear never latches on. Maybe someday! I didn't use to like Maiden or Dio-era Sabbath, either! :) Speaking of 80s metal and 70s metal and suchlike .... Of late, I have quite enjoyed the new Grand Magus _Iron Will_ album. GM started as a very doomy stoner band, and have steadily added what seem to be 80s- ish power-metal influences; I wouldn't have predicted that working for me, given my history of suspicion of 80s metal -- but it has! They were a _good_ stoner-doom band back when they started, but largely one of many. They've kept key elements of that sound, but have rocked up the tempos, and the singer has something of a baritone Dio-Gillan vibe rather than the usual stoner bawl. Plus, they're a power trio with a Flying V and a Rickenbacker bass, so what's not to like? :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Sep 9 17:46:00 2008 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:46:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >Ah, now I never really warmed to Priest, either. I keep thinking that I must be missing >something, and need to re-listen to either the classic or modern output, but whatever >hear never latches on. Maybe someday! I didn't use to like Maiden or Dio-era >Sabbath, either! :) Maybe it does have something to do with what was around when you were growing up. I like Priest - mainly their older stuff. Have you ever listened to Rocka Rolla? It's a little different than their other stuff. I used to listen to Black Sabbath and Deep Purple a lot back then, but don't care for Deep Purple as much now. Of course I listened to Alice Cooper a lot too (Schools Out, Billion Dollar Babies timeframe). From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Sep 9 17:58:50 2008 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:58:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Speaking of 80s metal and 70s metal and suchlike .... Of late, I have > quite enjoyed the new Grand Magus _Iron Will_ album. GM started as a > very doomy stoner band, and have steadily added what seem to be > 80s-ish power-metal influences; I wouldn't have predicted that working > for me, given my history of suspicion of 80s metal -- but it has! > They were a _good_ stoner-doom band back when they started, but > largely one of many. They've kept key elements of that sound, but > have rocked up the tempos, and the singer has something of a baritone > Dio-Gillan vibe rather than the usual stoner bawl. Plus, they're a > power trio with a Flying V and a Rickenbacker bass, so what's not to > like? :) I might have to check them out now. I just checked allmusic and found out the singer also sings for Spiritual Beggars. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 9 18:28:00 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:28:00 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <48C6F19A.7020907@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: On 09 Sep 2008, at 16:58 , Jerry G wrote: > I might have to check them [Grand Magus] out now. I just checked > allmusic and found out the singer > also sings for Spiritual Beggars. Yeah, Grand Magus first really came to my attention via the Spiritual Beggars -- though possibly I didn't warm to Grand Magus right away back then because I was a massive fan of the "Spice" era Spiritual Beggars, and felt like they kinda went downhill after Spice's departure (though since it's mostly Michael Amott's band, maybe he just started running low on song-writing ideas around the same time). Apologies to anyone who loves the latter-day Spiritual Beggars! :) Though Magus/Beggars vocalist Janne "JB" Christofferson would be an asset to most any band. (He's also the guitarist in GM.) The first two Grand Magus albums definitely have a lot of the slow stoner/doom thing going on, but they really seem to find their own voice with "Wolf's Return", predecessor to the latest _Iron Will_ (also a new drummer on Iron Will, I think). Something of a car crash between Candlemass and bits of Maiden (or Priest or even Purple) with a big Viking obsession going on. Like the mighty Litmus :) Grand Magus are currently on doommongers Rise Above Records. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 08:17:57 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:17:57 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: I always confuse DoD and AMOLAD just because of the names and thenatic similarity, but if I recall correctly I think I agree with you. DoD has Paschandale which I think is overall my favorite Iron Maiden song (even over and above my previous favorites like The Trooper, Flight of Icarus, Number of the Beast and Run to the Hills) but (assuming I'm not conflating them yet again) :) I think _A Matter..._ is overall a better album. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Tuesday, Sep 9, 2008 5:18 pm Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 09 Sep 2008, at 15:22 , gary shindler wrote: Haven't heard Maiden since the reunion album and I missed the Blaze era (like they'll get him back!). I think Paul Dianno gets a bum rap. The albums he sang on were good. I doubt Dickinson could sing "Purgatory" as well. The Di'Anno stuff seems all right to me -- though I can understand why they ended up needing to replace him, I can also understand why they still (I think) perform songs from that era. The reunion album was _Brave New World_, I guess; it seems pretty good to me, too, as did the follow-up _Dance of Death_. Still, I like _A Matter of Life and Death_ more (I'm not claiming this is necessarily a widely held opinion :)) than either of those. AMoLaD has got a few long, proggy (let's say it: indulgent!) yet riff-tastic songs that really work for me. There ya go! > I remember thinking Judas Priest were a joke when I saw them with Megadeth and Testament. Halford was stalking the stage like he was a member of Run DMC (before he came out and left). I think their bass player hid through the whole show. Ah, now I never really warmed to Priest, either. I keep thinking that I must be missing something, and need to re-listen to either the classic or modern output, but whatever hear never latches on. Maybe someday! I didn't use to like Maiden or Dio-era Sabbath, either! :) Speaking of 80s metal and 70s metal and suchlike .... Of late, I have quite enjoyed the new Grand Magus _Iron Will_ album. GM started as a very doomy stoner band, and have steadily added what seem to be 80s- ish power-metal influences; I wouldn't have predicted that working for me, given my history of suspicion of 80s metal -- but it has! They were a _good_ stoner-doom band back when they started, but largely one of many. They've kept key elements of that sound, but have rocked up the tempos, and the singer has something of a baritone Dio-Gillan vibe rather than the usual stoner bawl. Plus, they're a power trio with a Flying V and a Rickenbacker bass, so what's not to like? :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Sep 10 09:51:23 2008 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (Swartz, John A.) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:51:23 -0400 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah, 80s hair metal (which I get to listen to more these days than ever on XM Radio's "The Boneyard" channel). I never saw Dio in concert (with or without Black Sabbath), but my first Iron Maiden concert was on the "Piece of Mind" tour (also with Fastway, but not Saxon). I love most of the stuff off the first 2 Dio albums - and at the time they came out thought that maybe people who said Dio was saving his best stuff for his solo career once he split from Sabbath had a legit point. Funny, looking back on it, I probably prefer the stuff on Black Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" and "The Mob Rules" album to the first 2 Dio albums. Jimmy Bain's a great bassist (with great metal tone), but he really can't compare with the legendary Geezer Butler (or Steve Harris of Iron Maiden*). Tony Iommi and Vivian Campbell are apples and oranges - both great in their own rights. * Speaking of Steve Harris, when I now listen to "Die Young" on Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" album, I can't help wonder if Geezer had started listening to what Iron Maiden was doing - that bassline sounds more like a Steve Harris creation... Other metal bands that I got into include Ozzy, Motley Crue (saw them open for Ozzy in 1984 just before they got huge), Quiet Riot (oh, it was good fun - you know it was!), Y&T, Twisted Sister (more good fun). I also got to see Black Sabbath fronted by Ian Gillian on the "Born Again" tour - not to everyone's taste (and sacrilege to some Sabbath fans), but it was good stuff. And I blame my 80s metal obsession on the fact that BOC was starting their commercial slide... John From tjackson at SYR.EDU Wed Sep 10 10:02:14 2008 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:02:14 -0400 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: A<353C399334AFCE47AFB137669E034A09015F73A3@IMCSRV6.MITRE.ORG> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Swartz, John A. Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:51 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: 80s Metal Ah, 80s hair metal (which I get to listen to more these days than ever on XM Radio's "The Boneyard" channel). I never saw Dio in concert (with or without Black Sabbath), First time I saw RJD, he was in a local band from here in Upstate NY called Elf. I expect most of the folks on this list weren't born yet at the time of that gig, or they were very young... tj From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 10:06:11 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:06:11 -0500 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <353C399334AFCE47AFB137669E034A09015F73A3@IMCSRV6.MITRE.ORG> Message-ID: I shall never forget seeing Megadeth on the 'Peace Sells" tour at the "longhorn ballroom", and me sitting so happily at the bar pounding my trademark heinekens, when some lady came up and said "hey, your friend just got thrown out" (who I brought in my car), and me saying "so?" nothing was going to stop my private little mega-evening it turned out my stupid drunk friend had been slamming around in a circle and actually wounded some girl, and he had crawled into the sunroof of my mazda rx7, and was crouched down hiding......... ahhh the good old days,,,,, ps-I remember all that spandex at the maiden show....likely was the "piece of mind" tour for me as well On 9/10/08, Swartz, John A. wrote: > > Ah, 80s hair metal (which I get to listen to more these days than ever > on XM Radio's "The Boneyard" channel). I never saw Dio in concert > (with or without Black Sabbath), but my first Iron Maiden concert was > on the "Piece of Mind" tour (also with Fastway, but not Saxon). I love > most of the stuff off the first 2 Dio albums - and at the time they > came out thought that maybe people who said Dio was saving his best > stuff for his solo career once he split from Sabbath had a legit point. > Funny, looking back on it, I probably prefer the stuff on Black > Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" and "The Mob Rules" album to the first 2 > Dio albums. Jimmy Bain's a great bassist (with great metal tone), but > he really can't compare with the legendary Geezer Butler (or Steve > Harris of Iron Maiden*). Tony Iommi and Vivian Campbell are apples and > oranges - both great in their own rights. > > > > * Speaking of Steve Harris, when I now listen to "Die Young" on > Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" album, I can't help wonder if Geezer had > started listening to what Iron Maiden was doing - that bassline sounds > more like a Steve Harris creation... > > > > Other metal bands that I got into include Ozzy, Motley Crue (saw them > open for Ozzy in 1984 just before they got huge), Quiet Riot (oh, it > was good fun - you know it was!), Y&T, Twisted Sister (more good fun). > I also got to see Black Sabbath fronted by Ian Gillian on the "Born > Again" tour - not to everyone's taste (and sacrilege to some Sabbath > fans), but it was good stuff. > > > > And I blame my 80s metal obsession on the fact that BOC was starting > their commercial slide... > > > > John > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 10:39:45 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:39:45 -0500 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <44223619888B784FA7A621427B24888B650F9E@SUEXCL-03.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: > > > First time I saw RJD, he was in a local band from > here in Upstate NY called Elf. I expect most of > the folks on this list weren't born yet at the time > of that gig, or they were very young... > > tj > well I remember an album title, "carolina county ball" wasn't it?? I passed on it, I've never tolerated him well, and I also remember a Hawkwind fan that was a customer of mine, who did reviews, had him on his answering machine I think that now famous hand gesture actually originated with his Italian mom, but I could just be wrong.... (I'm guilty of blowing black sabbath off right after I saw them with van halen being the new unknown, the never say die tour I suppose...no ozzy, not for me..) now I think I'd rather just watch him than listen to him.....don't know.... From tjackson at SYR.EDU Wed Sep 10 10:53:55 2008 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:53:55 -0400 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: A<17d80c610809100739p6de8fe73rbbaba4ff8bfd22c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > > First time I saw RJD, he was in a local band from > here in Upstate NY called Elf. I expect most of > the folks on this list weren't born yet at the time > of that gig, or they were very young... > > tj > well I remember an album title, "carolina county ball" wasn't it?? Not familiar with that one. I think the first album was just entitled "Elf," but it was better than 30 years ago... I passed on it, I've never tolerated him well, and I also remember a Hawkwind fan that was a customer of mine, who did reviews, had him on his answering machine I think that now famous hand gesture actually originated with his Italian mom, but I could just be wrong.... Makes sense, back in the Elf days he went by the rather more unwieldy name Ron Padavona... tj From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 10 11:01:44 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:01:44 -0700 Subject: 80s Metal Message-ID: One of my favorite shows wa I saw Ozzy and Motley in KC on that tour. One of my favorite shows was Saxon and Accept (tour for "Crusader" and "Balls to the Wall"). I had a third row seat on the floor and banged my head so hard I passed out.?So many seats were empty I couldn't believe it wasn't cancelled!?Saxon really impressed me with Maiden on that "Piece of Mind" tour. Gillan was my favorite singer and I really liked "Born Again." Seeing Purple's reunion tour was a highlight - from what I can remember ;) On topic for the list: Rainbow had more fans when I saw them with BOC ("Revolution by Night"). Many of the crowd left before BOC's encore. If you thought BOC was commercial then how about?Rainbow? Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: "Swartz, John A." To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:51:23 AM Subject: Re: 80s Metal Ah, 80s hair metal (which I get to listen to more these days than ever on XM Radio's "The Boneyard" channel).? I never saw Dio in concert (with or without Black Sabbath), but my first Iron Maiden concert was on the "Piece of Mind" tour (also with Fastway, but not Saxon).? I love most of the stuff off the first 2 Dio albums - and at the time they came out thought that maybe people who said Dio was saving his best stuff for his solo career once he split from Sabbath had a legit point. Funny, looking back on it, I probably prefer the stuff on Black Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" and "The Mob Rules" album to the first 2 Dio albums.? Jimmy Bain's a great bassist (with great metal tone), but he really can't compare with the legendary Geezer Butler (or Steve Harris of Iron Maiden*).? Tony Iommi and Vivian Campbell are apples and oranges - both great in their own rights. * Speaking of Steve Harris, when I now listen to "Die Young" on Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" album, I can't help wonder if Geezer had started listening to what Iron Maiden was doing - that bassline sounds more like a Steve Harris creation... Other metal bands that I got into include Ozzy, Motley Crue (saw them open for Ozzy in 1984 just before they got huge), Quiet Riot (oh, it was good fun - you know it was!), Y&T, Twisted Sister (more good fun). I also got to see Black Sabbath fronted by Ian Gillian on the "Born Again" tour - not to everyone's taste (and sacrilege to some Sabbath fans), but it was good stuff. And I blame my 80s metal obsession on the fact that BOC was starting their commercial slide... John From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 11:34:45 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:34:45 -0500 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809100739p6de8fe73rbbaba4ff8bfd22c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 09:39 , mike coleman wrote: > I think that now famous hand gesture actually originated with his > Italian > mom, but I could just be wrong.... Grandmother, I think -- but it is indeed adapted from a common gesture used in parts of Italy to ward of the evil eye. Or, at the very least, is remarkable similar! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 11:46:34 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:46:34 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <353C399334AFCE47AFB137669E034A09015F73A3@IMCSRV6.MITRE.ORG> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 08:51 , Swartz, John A. wrote: > Funny, looking back on it, I probably prefer the stuff on Black > Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" and "The Mob Rules" album to the first 2 > Dio albums. Jimmy Bain's a great bassist (with great metal tone), but > he really can't compare with the legendary Geezer Butler (or Steve > Harris of Iron Maiden*). Tony Iommi and Vivian Campbell are apples > and > oranges - both great in their own rights. I'd agree with all that, though I have to say that Campbell seems to have turned in his best work on the first two Dio albums and his Whitesnake/DefLep career has been ... less exciting. Iommi's various projects, whether in various Sabbath incarnations or solo have been uneven in and of themselves, but Iommi's guitar and writing contributions remain pretty solid to this day. > * Speaking of Steve Harris, when I now listen to "Die Young" on > Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" album, I can't help wonder if Geezer had > started listening to what Iron Maiden was doing - that bassline sounds > more like a Steve Harris creation... It wouldn't really surprise me -- it does have a relatively NWOBHM vibe, as far as Sabbath songs go anyway. I have also read that the Harris-penned Maiden track "Children of the Damned" started with an inspiration from Sabbath's "Children of the Sea". > I also got to see Black Sabbath fronted by Ian Gillian on the "Born > Again" tour - not to everyone's taste (and sacrilege to some Sabbath > fans), but it was good stuff. Ah, but what _isn't_ sacrilege to some Sabbath fans? ;) Or any fans? ;) I'm as familiar with the brief, Gillan-fronted Sabbath as with the Ozzy or Dio incarnations, but my understanding is that _Born Again_ has come to enjoy a fairly substantial cult status. > And I blame my 80s metal obsession on the fact that BOC was starting > their commercial slide... (Bringing us almost on topic!) Aye, well, there's the rub. Not that I was really aware of BOC at the time, nor 80s metal (though by the end of the decade in high school I got into Def Leppard through their then fame with the Hysteria album, though I quickly gravitated back towards the High'n'Dry album :)), but I'm rather of the opinion that BOC should have simply broken up in the wake of Albert's departure, if not after releasing _Extraterrestrial Live_ at least after RbN. CN should not have happened really -- whatever saving graces we might try to extricate from it could have easily have been saved for another time. However the workload might be broken down, the twin departures of Al and Sandy Pearlman from the BOC orbit clearly did them no good in terms of actually producing reliably decent music. We need only compare CN and Imaginos (though that latter only came out in 1988, if one tracks down the demos that are floating around the internet, it's clear that a some sort of polished version could well have been released earlier had CBS actually wanted that) to see how that story was playing out. Without Al and Pearlman, the writing talent is basically reduced to Buck -- and though that's a pretty good talent (!), it doesn't seem to be enough to provide a constant stream of new material for a band rightly or wrongly linked to a proto-metal reputation. I would _like_ to say that the plan should have been (with shades of Sabbath) to triumphantly reform the original lineup in the latter 1990s or for the new millennium -- giving everyone time to, ya know, work out their various issues with any luck. And that perhaps would have been the time to unleash the _Imaginos_ material with all new recordings. As it is, I think the years of touring with the puppet show and a rotating cast around 2OC or 3OC have "diluted the brand". Sure bands like Priest and Maiden -- which are practically of an age with BOC, or not many years younger, even if their heydays came later -- have suffered their own periods of decline and fall or close to it, but they have also snapped back to produce at least relatively successful if not always amazing albums (OK, perhaps Priest's Nostradamus should have been reined in to half its size on a single disc that kept the better bits, and that still probably wouldn't have totally set the word alight, but hey) and tours. Sure, Priest is out there on what is effectively a "Dinosaurs of Metal" tour with the Dio- Sabbath, Motorhead, etc. But on the other hand, they _are_ on that tour, and BOC is not. I'm not sure whether the likes of Nostradamus is better or worse than, say, _Curse of the Hidden Mirror_, but it's probably sold more copies, at least got more press, and of course came out this year instead of in 2001. (Maiden's _AMOLAD_ *i?* better, though, being genuinely good!). Nostradamus at least least makes an _effort_, whether or not it lives up to its intentions. Will CotHM the last studio album to bear the BOC moniker? Will we eventually see the band touring as 1OC, sans one or Eric or Buck? Oh well -- just a bunch of rambling about ground we've covered again and again before. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 11:48:02 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:48:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <3303879476.14381767@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 07:17 , Steve Swann wrote: > I always confuse DoD and AMOLAD just because of the names and > thenatic similarity, but if I recall correctly I think I agree with > you. DoD has Paschandale which I think is overall my favorite Iron > Maiden song (even over and above my previous favorites like The > Trooper, Flight of Icarus, Number of the Beast and Run to the > Hills) but (assuming I'm not conflating them yet again) :) I think > _A Matter..._ is overall a better album. AMOLAD has stuff like "For the Greater Good of God", "Brighter Than a Thousand Suns" .... Yeah, DoD is pretty solid and "Paschandale" is stupendous, though I think AMOLAD edges it out for me as a totality. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 11:52:42 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:52:42 -0500 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <44223619888B784FA7A621427B24888B650F9F@SUEXCL-03.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: > > > Not familiar with that one. I think the first > album was just entitled "Elf," but it was better > than 30 years ago... it was the 2nd LP, 1974......I bet _That's_ a weird listen!!!! From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 11:55:23 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:55:23 -0700 Subject: 80s Metal Message-ID: I'm not too keen on most Elf material, it mostly sounds like swamp boogie to me. But one song - "Wonderworld" I think it's called - clearly presaged his terrific work with Rainbow. And as for his work with Sabbath, I can hardly say enough good things about it. Heaven and Hell is one of about maybe 10 albums (along with Back in Black, Fire of Unknown Origin, Number of the Beast, Screaming for Vengeance, Blackout, Pyromania, et al) to come out between '80 and '82 that pretty much set my taste in rock and metal when I was a kid. Obviously a lot of them I left behind, but I think a couple of them have proven pretty themselves to be essentially timeless (Back in Black being perhaps the most obvious example). Steve -----Original Message----- From: Theodore O Jackson Date: Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 10:04 am Subject: Re: 80s Metal To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Swartz, John A. Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:51 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: 80s Metal Ah, 80s hair metal (which I get to listen to more these days than ever on XM Radio's "The Boneyard" channel). I never saw Dio in concert (with or without Black Sabbath), First time I saw RJD, he was in a local band from here in Upstate NY called Elf. I expect most of the folks on this list weren't born yet at the time of that gig, or they were very young... tj From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 12:02:18 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:02:18 -0500 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <3303892522.125578@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: I figured it sucked' hehe I liked the first Def Leppard LP, I think little Pete Willlis should kick all their asses On 9/10/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > I'm not too keen on most Elf material, it mostly sounds like swamp boogie > to me. But one song - "Wonderworld" I think it's called - clearly presaged > his terrific work with Rainbow. > > And as for his work with Sabbath, I can hardly say enough good things about > it. Heaven and Hell is one of about maybe 10 albums (along with Back in > Black, Fire of Unknown Origin, Number of the Beast, Screaming for Vengeance, > Blackout, Pyromania, et al) to come out between '80 and '82 that pretty much > set my taste in rock and metal when I was a kid. Obviously a lot of them I > left behind, but I think a couple of them have proven pretty themselves to > be essentially timeless (Back in Black being perhaps the most obvious > example). > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Theodore O Jackson > Date: Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 10:04 am > Subject: Re: 80s Metal > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On Behalf Of Swartz, John A. > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:51 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: 80s Metal > > Ah, 80s hair metal (which I get to listen to more these days than ever > on XM Radio's "The Boneyard" channel). I never saw Dio in concert > (with or without Black Sabbath), > > > First time I saw RJD, he was in a local band from > here in Upstate NY called Elf. I expect most of > the folks on this list weren't born yet at the time > of that gig, or they were very young... > > > tj > From tjackson at SYR.EDU Wed Sep 10 13:12:00 2008 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:12:00 -0400 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: A<374B32C7-B1DD-4CD2-BDDA-1341A54AF929@carlaz.com> Message-ID: ... I'm rather of the opinion that BOC should have simply broken up in the wake of Albert's departure, if not after releasing _Extraterrestrial Live_ at least after RbN. Couldn't agree more, and the subsequent releases more than bear this out. After Pearlman and Meltzer were marginalized as B?C contributors, Albert filled the power vacuum quite nicely. He was always a prolific, if sometimes scattershot, songwriter. Firing Albert was like shooting the proverbial albatross. The band went quickly downhill material-wise, and they just never seemed to have the same onstage chemistry either after that point. OTOH, B?C by that time had become quite a cash cow, and who could blame the rest of the band for not wanting to pull the plug on a great band that was still making lots of money, esp. given the musical climate of the times. Why should B?C call it quits when the musical landscape of the day was rather barren? It's not like Buck is/was a shabby songwriter, he just doesn't work fast enough to write an album's worth of material on his own. Joe was still in the band before CN, and he's always been a great songwriter. But when he left the band, it was time to call it a day... CN should not have happened really -- whatever saving graces we might try to extricate from it could have easily have been saved for another time. However the workload might be broken down, the twin departures of Al and Sandy Pearlman from the BOC orbit clearly did them no good in terms of actually producing reliably decent music. We need only compare CN and Imaginos (though that latter only came out in 1988, if one tracks down the demos that are floating around the internet, it's clear that a some sort of polished version could well have been released earlier had CBS actually wanted that) to see how that story was playing out. Can't blame CBS for wanting to make a buck off the band. Imaginos, though brilliant, showed almost zero commercial potential. Whilst adored by the hardcore fans, a lot of casual listeners would have been left scratching their heads... Without Al and Pearlman, the writing talent is basically reduced to Buck -- and though that's a pretty good talent (!), it doesn't seem to be enough to provide a constant stream of new material for a band rightly or wrongly linked to a proto-metal reputation. I should have read your entire post before writing the above! I would _like_ to say that the plan should have been (with shades of Sabbath) to triumphantly reform the original lineup in the latter 1990s or for the new millennium -- giving everyone time to, ya know, work out their various issues with any luck. And that perhaps would have been the time to unleash the _Imaginos_ material with all new recordings. As it is, I think the years of touring with the puppet show and a rotating cast around 2OC or 3OC have "diluted the brand". I think by that time, there was just too much bad blood on all sides to make that happen. All the pity, as you'd think a bunch of great musicians could have realized the amazing thing they had, and swallowed their pride to give it another go. But by that time, B?C had become an institution, and I think the 3?C remainders realized that the group had settled into a routine, playing smaller venues, albeit, but also without the huge overhead of the old days. I expect, at the end of the day, it was a simple business solution... Will CotHM the last studio album to bear the BOC moniker? Probably... Will we eventually see the band touring as 1OC, sans one or Eric or Buck? Well, they're currently 2?C, and have been for quite a while. They actually played in my town a while back and I refused to go because of that... tj From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 10 13:27:51 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:27:51 -0700 Subject: 80s Metal Message-ID: "Well, they're currently 2?C, and have been for quite Theodore said: "Well, they're currently 2?C, and have been for quite a while. They actually played in my town a while back and I refused to go because of that..." I'd probably still go see them again. A couple of months ago they played an outdoor BBQ festival (I know, insert a snide comment here) and I was tempted to pay even a small entry fee to hear them. I really wish I'd checked the Brain Surgeons when they came through. Kicking myself over that one. I'm not missing Peter Hammill though (now it's really off-topic). Gary From mysterioso at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 13:56:32 2008 From: mysterioso at GMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:56:32 +0100 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <353C399334AFCE47AFB137669E034A09015F73A3@IMCSRV6.MITRE.ORG> Message-ID: > * Speaking of Steve Harris, when I now listen to "Die Young" on > Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" album, I can't help wonder if Geezer had > started listening to what Iron Maiden was doing - that bassline sounds > more like a Steve Harris creation... Curiously, according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_and_Hell_(Black_Sabbath_album) Geezer may not have been the one who came up with the Harris-esque basslines for much of Heaven and Hell, as he'd pretty much left the band, only to return for the actual recording sessions. I've read this from various sources in the last fortnight, but can't put my hand on the other links right now. From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 14:15:55 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:15:55 -0700 Subject: 80s Metal Message-ID: For those of you who never got to see late period Brain Surgeons with Ross on guitar, well... I hate to rub in, but those were MONSTER rock & roll shows. Al finally had a guitar player for the Surgeons who was a match for his songwriting powers*. Holy mother of god, that was some of the most kick ass live rock and roll I've ever heard. Steve * don't get me wrong, Pete and Billy were great, and Deb . But Ross had the colossal riffing powers necessary to really carry the Surgeons' sound -----Original Message----- From: gary shindler Date: Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 1:29 pm Subject: Re: 80s Metal To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET "Well, they're currently 2?C, and have been for quite Theodore said: "Well, they're currently 2?C, and have been for quite a while. They actually played in my town a while back and I refused to go because of that..." I'd probably still go see them again. A couple of months ago they played an outdoor BBQ festival (I know, insert a snide comment here) and I was tempted to pay even a small entry fee to hear them. I really wish I'd checked the Brain Surgeons when they came through. Kicking myself over that one. I'm not missing Peter Hammill though (now it's really off-topic). Gary From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 14:22:04 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:22:04 -0700 Subject: 80s Metal Message-ID: It's actually been a good number of years at this point since I've seen BOC play. But if they come around again, I'd go see them just to watch Buck play guitar. I'm glad the live DVD finally captured the modern "guitar epic" version of Last Days of May, but seeing it on DVD is no match for watch Buck wrangle those strings in person... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Theodore O Jackson Date: Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 1:15 pm Subject: Re: 80s Metal To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET .. I'm rather of the opinion that BOC should have simply broken up in the wake of Albert's departure, if not after releasing _Extraterrestrial Live_ at least after RbN. Couldn't agree more, and the subsequent releases more than bear this out. After Pearlman and Meltzer were marginalized as B?C contributors, Albert filled the power vacuum quite nicely. He was always a prolific, if sometimes scattershot, songwriter. Firing Albert was like shooting the proverbial albatross. The band went quickly downhill material-wise, and they just never seemed to have the same onstage chemistry either after that point. OTOH, B?C by that time had become quite a cash cow, and who could blame the rest of the band for not wanting to pull the plug on a great band that was still making lots of money, esp. given the musical climate of the times. Why should B?C call it quits when the musical landscape of the day was rather barren? It's not like Buck is/was a shabby songwriter, he just doesn't work fast enough to write an album's worth of material on his own. Joe was still in the band before CN, and he's always been a great songwriter. But when he left the band, it was time to call it a day... CN should not have happened really -- whatever saving graces we might try to extricate from it could have easily have been saved for another time. However the workload might be broken down, the twin departures of Al and Sandy Pearlman from the BOC orbit clearly did them no good in terms of actually producing reliably decent music. We need only compare CN and Imaginos (though that latter only came out in 1988, if one tracks down the demos that are floating around the internet, it's clear that a some sort of polished version could well have been released earlier had CBS actually wanted that) to see how that story was playing out. Can't blame CBS for wanting to make a buck off the band. Imaginos, though brilliant, showed almost zero commercial potential. Whilst adored by the hardcore fans, a lot of casual listeners would have been left scratching their heads... Without Al and Pearlman, the writing talent is basically reduced to Buck -- and though that's a pretty good talent (!), it doesn't seem to be enough to provide a constant stream of new material for a band rightly or wrongly linked to a proto-metal reputation. I should have read your entire post before writing the above! I would _like_ to say that the plan should have been (with shades of Sabbath) to triumphantly reform the original lineup in the latter 1990s or for the new millennium -- giving everyone time to, ya know, work out their various issues with any luck. And that perhaps would have been the time to unleash the _Imaginos_ material with all new recordings. As it is, I think the years of touring with the puppet show and a rotating cast around 2OC or 3OC have "diluted the brand". I think by that time, there was just too much bad blood on all sides to make that happen. All the pity, as you'd think a bunch of great musicians could have realized the amazing thing they had, and swallowed their pride to give it another go. But by that time, B?C had become an institution, and I think the 3?C remainders realized that the group had settled into a routine, playing smaller venues, albeit, but also without the huge overhead of the old days. I expect, at the end of the day, it was a simple business solution... Will CotHM the last studio album to bear the BOC moniker? Probably... Will we eventually see the band touring as 1OC, sans one or Eric or Buck? Well, they're currently 2?C, and have been for quite a while. They actually played in my town a while back and I refused to go because of that... tj From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 14:28:02 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:28:02 -0500 Subject: BOC: real and alternate histories (was Re: 80s Metal) In-Reply-To: <44223619888B784FA7A621427B24888B650FA1@SUEXCL-03.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 12:12 , Theodore O Jackson wrote: > OTOH, B?C by that time had become quite a cash > cow, and who could blame the rest of the band for not wanting to pull > the plug on a great band that was still making lots of money, esp. > given > the musical climate of the times. Why should B?C call it quits > when the > musical landscape of the day was rather barren? It's not like Buck > is/was > a shabby songwriter, he just doesn't work fast enough to write an > album's > worth of material on his own. Joe was still in the band before CN, > and he's > always been a great songwriter. But when he left the band, it was > time to > call it a day... Yeah, I can easily see how the prevailing logic at the time encouraged them not to officially break up -- it's just that 20/20 hindsight view that makes me think that in the long run breaking up might have worked out better ... Had all the cards been played right, and there'd been a good following wind. ;) In my "alternate history plan" (in which the band definitively breaks up after ETL or at worst RBN), Buck goes on to an 80s pop-rock career (shades of Don Henley or Glenn Frey! ;)) as he seems to have sort of intended to try, or maybe forms some short lived supergroups in a Jimmy Page kind of way. The others do their various things, be it working in production, working at Cinnabon ;) or whatever .... > Can't blame CBS for wanting to make a buck off the band. Imaginos, > though brilliant, showed almost zero commercial potential. Whilst > adored > by the hardcore fans, a lot of casual listeners would have been left > scratching their heads... Indeed -- though I think that's why in my "alternate history plan", I would have seen Imaginos utterly shelved (barring perhaps some minor bootleg leaks of the Iommi "Eighth Star" variety to keep the hardcore fans' appetites whetted ;)) ... until the time for the triumphant reunion. >> I would _like_ to say that the plan should have been (with shades of >> Sabbath) to triumphantly reform the original lineup in the latter >> 1990s or for the new millennium -- giving everyone time to, ya know, >> work out their various issues with any luck. And that perhaps would >> have been the time to unleash the _Imaginos_ material with all new >> recordings. As it is, I think the years of touring with the puppet >> show and a rotating cast around 2OC or 3OC have "diluted the brand". > > > > I think by that time, there was just too much bad blood on all sides > to make that happen. Well, here I'm thinking in terms of my "alternate history plan". Sure there was bad blood when Albert went, but I think a lot of other stuff went on to keep the blood bad or make it even worse thereafter. If the band had just quit after ETL or RBN, and there'd been nothing else (for example, no abortive "Albert Returns" tour, no record company shenanigans with Imaginos), perhaps things could have been patched up eventually. After all, there was a lot of bad blood over Ozzy's sacking from Sabbath, yadda yadda, and we could make a list of further sackings and breakups that were later sorted out to some extent when heads were older, wiser, and cooler. With a long 15-year hiatus from the early 80s to late 90s, perhaps bridges could have then been built and triumphant returns plotted. However, in the event, the Old Gods could not really Return because they'd barely been away, albeit with a reduced pantheon, increasingly shrunken powers, and dwindling pools of worshippers. But in my alternate history plan, sometime in the last 10 years perhaps would have been the time for to try out a reunion tour, and then (in the wake of its obvious success :)) move directly to re- recording the old Imaginos demo material with real involvement of all the principals: the Bouchard Bros., Pearlman, and of course Buck. Then there would have been might and glory for at least a few tours -- and who knows, perhaps they could have worked out yet another whole new album between them. (Even without further involvement from Pearlman, think of the best things Buck wrote since RBN or after, and all the best bits of tBS, and condense them into an album: Woah! :)) Oh well! Reality is a harsh mistress! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From tim at KALYR.COM Wed Sep 10 14:21:34 2008 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:21:34 +0100 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <86562.12548.qm@web36902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: gary shindler wrote: > Gillan was my favorite singer and I really liked "Born Again." Seeing Purple's reunion tour was a highlight - from what I can remember ;) > > I saw Gillan fronting his own band (simply called "Gillan") three times in the early 80s. They may have had patchy albums and too many cheesy singles, but they were amazing live. > On topic for the list: Rainbow had more fans when I saw them with BOC ("Revolution by Night"). Many of the crowd left before BOC's encore. If you thought BOC was commercial then how about Rainbow? > Now that's one band I never did get to see - this was the days when you had to apply for tickets by post, and whether or not they'd sold out by the time your ticket application arrived was a bit of a lottery. Yes, they got very commercial after Dio left to join Sabbath, and I think BOC's 80s material stands up better today. -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://www.last.fm/user/kalyr From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 14:35:19 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:35:19 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <7e287e6d0809101056p17504cc1v98877e6a60fb8088@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 12:56 , Chris Allen wrote: >> Curiously, according to this: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_and_Hell_(Black_Sabbath_album) > Geezer may not have been the one who came up with the Harris-esque > basslines for much of Heaven and Hell, as he'd pretty much left the > band, only to return for the actual recording sessions. > I've read this from various sources in the last fortnight, but can't > put my hand on the other links right now. Hmm, yes, that's right -- someone mentioned as much here the other day, to the effect that Geezer was really only involved with writing "Neon Knights" (so the info at claims also). Though there's a stage banter comment from Dio on the recent Radio City Music Hall live Heaven & Hell gig about the song "Lady Evil" in which he seems to attribute a significant role in that song to Geezer. Not sure what to make of that, really. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 15:07:08 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:07:08 -0500 Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <3303900954.460585@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 13:15 , Steve Swann wrote: > For those of you who never got to see late period Brain Surgeons > with Ross on guitar, well... I hate to rub in, but those were > MONSTER rock & roll shows. Al finally had a guitar player for the > Surgeons who was a match for his songwriting powers*. Holy mother > of god, that was some of the most kick ass live rock and roll I've > ever heard. > * don't get me wrong, Pete and Billy were great, and Deb . But > Ross had the colossal riffing powers necessary to really carry the > Surgeons' sound Agree 100%. I saw the initial touring incarnation and the final Rossified incarnation, and though I always enjoyed the shows ... well, the _Denial of Death_ lineup was *amazing*, as was the album. I think that album and those gigs stand up pretty well alongside anything else in the history of BOC and its occasional if mysterious side shoots. When we talk about great and shining albums here, well, we have to remember that such albums are the definite minority in the world -- we just talk about those few more. And few bands will ever make an album as good as _Denial of Death_. On 10 Sep 2008, at 13:22 , Steve Swann wrote: > It's actually been a good number of years at this point since I've > seen BOC play. But if they come around again, I'd go see them just > to watch Buck play guitar. Yeah, I was thinking something similar. I've come to conceive of 2OC as essentially "The Buck Show" with a lot of old BOC tunes on which Eric happens to sing some numbers. Heck, "Harvest Moon" is really an old number from Buck's "The Red & the Black" 80s power-pop-trio with Jon Rogers anyway, no? But Buck remains a hell of a guitar player and it's worth going to see a hell of a guitar player. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 16:14:21 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:14:21 -0700 Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal Message-ID: You know, don't even ask *why* such a thing would occur to me, but I just thought how ridiculously awesome a band with Al, Ross and Joey Cerisano (Seige & Investitute) would be. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 3:09 pm Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 10 Sep 2008, at 13:15 , Steve Swann wrote: For those of you who never got to see late period Brain Surgeons with Ross on guitar, well... I hate to rub in, but those were MONSTER rock & roll shows. Al finally had a guitar player for the Surgeons who was a match for his songwriting powers*. Holy mother of god, that was some of the most kick ass live rock and roll I've ever heard. * don't get me wrong, Pete and Billy were great, and Deb . But Ross had the colossal riffing powers necessary to really carry the Surgeons' sound Agree 100%. I saw the initial touring incarnation and the final Rossified incarnation, and though I always enjoyed the shows ... well, the _Denial of Death_ lineup was *amazing*, as was the album. I think that album and those gigs stand up pretty well alongside anything else in the history of BOC and its occasional if mysterious side shoots. When we talk about great and shining albums here, well, we have to remember that such albums are the definite minority in the world -- we just talk about those few more. And few bands will ever make an album as good as _Denial of Death_. On 10 Sep 2008, at 13:22 , Steve Swann wrote: It's actually been a good number of years at this point since I've seen BOC play. But if they come around again, I'd go see them just to watch Buck play guitar. Yeah, I was thinking something similar. I've come to conceive of 2OC as essentially "The Buck Show" with a lot of old BOC tunes on which Eric happens to sing some numbers. Heck, "Harvest Moon" is really an old number from Buck's "The Red & the Black" 80s power-pop-trio with Jon Rogers anyway, no? But Buck remains a hell of a guitar player and it's worth going to see a hell of a guitar player. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 17:04:16 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:04:16 -0500 Subject: Dave Allen and Dave Brock 45 single Kollektorbomb Message-ID: I tried to warn you all about Dave, but found myself in coded flames..... In this case I got the joke, however I must warn any Kollektors with a capitol K that following this link will likely result in something similar to peeling off the warning sticker on a pxr5 LP (although that can be done, somehow, just saw one...steam??): http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180283103033&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123 one cool thing about being a demon in hell is you get cool records looks like the dead man's hand again...... anybody care to reverse engineer this one??? From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 17:08:24 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:08:24 -0700 Subject: BOC: real and alternate histories (was Re: 80s Metal) Message-ID: Argh yes, I hate the way Imaginos (due to timing, politics, and a variety of other factors) ended up falling through the cracks, and becoming (depending on whose point of view you take) either the "lost classic" or the unwanted bastard child. But either way, left behind. God damn it. So, I love your alternate history take on it, where instead it becomes the vehicle for their triumphant reunion. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Wednesday, Sep 10, 2008 2:31 pm Subject: BOC: real and alternate histories (was Re: 80s Metal) To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 10 Sep 2008, at 12:12 , Theodore O Jackson wrote: > OTOH, B?C by that time had become quite a cash > cow, and who could blame the rest of the band for not wanting to pull > the plug on a great band that was still making lots of money, esp. > given > the musical climate of the times. Why should B?C call it quits > when the > musical landscape of the day was rather barren? It's not like Buck > is/was > a shabby songwriter, he just doesn't work fast enough to write an > album's > worth of material on his own. Joe was still in the band before CN, > and he's > always been a great songwriter. But when he left the band, it was > time to > call it a day... Yeah, I can easily see how the prevailing logic at the time encouraged them not to officially break up -- it's just that 20/20 hindsight view that makes me think that in the long run breaking up might have worked out better ... Had all the cards been played right, and there'd been a good following wind. ;) In my "alternate history plan" (in which the band definitively breaks up after ETL or at worst RBN), Buck goes on to an 80s pop-rock career (shades of Don Henley or Glenn Frey! ;)) as he seems to have sort of intended to try, or maybe forms some short lived supergroups in a Jimmy Page kind of way. The others do their various things, be it working in production, working at Cinnabon ;) or whatever .... > Can't blame CBS for wanting to make a buck off the band. Imaginos, > though brilliant, showed almost zero commercial potential. Whilst > adored > by the hardcore fans, a lot of casual listeners would have been left > scratching their heads... Indeed -- though I think that's why in my "alternate history plan", I would have seen Imaginos utterly shelved (barring perhaps some minor bootleg leaks of the Iommi "Eighth Star" variety to keep the hardcore fans' appetites whetted ;)) ... until the time for the triumphant reunion. >> I would _like_ to say that the plan should have been (with shades of >> Sabbath) to triumphantly reform the original lineup in the latter >> 1990s or for the new millennium -- giving everyone time to, ya know, >> work out their various issues with any luck. And that perhaps would >> have been the time to unleash the _Imaginos_ material with all new >> recordings. As it is, I think the years of touring with the puppet From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 17:18:27 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:18:27 -0500 Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <3303908060.790212@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 15:14 , Steve Swann wrote: > You know, don't even ask *why* such a thing would occur to me, but > I just thought how ridiculously awesome a band with Al, Ross and > Joey Cerisano (Seige & Investitute) would be. :) That would be awesome -- though good luck scoring Cerisano for availability! (And isn't Ross now basically touring with what was a Manowar tribute band behind him?) Still, Joey is still based largely in the NYC area, no? I guess they'd still need a bass player, but perhaps David Hirschberg remains available. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 17:38:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:38:06 -0500 Subject: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <48C8102E.3080200@kalyr.com> Message-ID: one of you wrote: > > > > Now that's one band I never did get to see - this was the days when you had > to apply for tickets by post, and whether or not they'd sold out by the time > your ticket application arrived was a bit of a lottery. > Yes, they got very commercial after Dio left to join Sabbath, and I think > BOC's 80s material stands up better today. Remember when (for USA anyway) tickets and ticket stubs were actually something to collect?? I remember my 78 sabbath one had glitter all in the lettering.....(and gosh those christians outside trying to save our souls were a gas, as were the excellent bootleg t-shirts you could actually afford) Rainbow....had the "rising" tape.....played it to death Deep Purple, for me, was, is, and shall always be, IN ROCK and FIREBALL........ Zeppelin-glad that discussion is not on this forum From albert at CELLSUM.COM Wed Sep 10 20:02:01 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:02:01 -0400 Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: David is out of commission for the moment having injured his middle finger on his left hand in a kitchen mishap (actually pretty serious) but I'm trying to get him back in shape to play a Obama benefit in Woodstock on October 11 with the Underbelly (featuring Joe Bouchard). On Sep 10, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 10 Sep 2008, at 15:14 , Steve Swann wrote: >> You know, don't even ask *why* such a thing would occur to me, but >> I just thought how ridiculously awesome a band with Al, Ross and >> Joey Cerisano (Seige & Investitute) would be. :) > > > That would be awesome -- though good luck scoring Cerisano for > availability! (And isn't Ross now basically touring with what was a > Manowar tribute band behind him?) Still, Joey is still based > largely in the NYC area, no? > > I guess they'd still need a bass player, but perhaps David > Hirschberg remains available. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 21:02:53 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:02:53 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff Message-ID: first: want to thank Judge Trev, as it just occurred to me that, for some reason, mostly known from above, I contacted him when I wasn't even contacting local people in my life. He encouraged me for a long time to "participate" once again. I thank him for the new (albeit still shitty) life that I have. I was in touch with him a LONG TIME before I started bothering this forum again..... next: nobody is getting younger and people are departing. very sad. my best friend who I never hear from because he is the worst case of video game addiction the world has ever seen, and it's ugly, so ugly(and I've cleaned up a real crack house with candle wax all over the walls) , just had his brother fall over dead of a heart attack 3 days ago.....out of the blue, he was about 50...... I think at this point I almost deserve a reward for being so good at "completely rejecting every one and every thing" (of course every one and every thing also rejects me so it's mutual), but I did cave being alone month after month can do funny things to the mind, and so I caved a bit I googled and found my lost collecter friend Pierre Thompson, And god bless him, he's still there, and the poor guy has been waiting for a new HW LP since "The Elf and the Hawk", so I took care of that...... more on him in a minute, thought I'd mention that Mary Bruce seems to be doing pretty good, she took a bit of a dive there for a while, which I feared would happen, but she's hangin' tough..... which leads to this: she is into a lot of stuff that I generally am not, one of them being dreams.......I figured something "cosmic" can happen very seldom and occasionally, but mostly thought they are nothing more than our own invention. But I just had a revelation. I used to wake up dreaming of collecting a bunch of Hawklords 45's and records, and it would KILL ME to wake up and realise I had no collection, no more family, just nothing. no joy. NEVER would I have planned for the Hawklords to be a focus of a new collection if such a thing were even imgainable at the time, and it certainly wasn't. But this is exactly what has happened, the most prominent new things have been tons of Hawklords stuff. I feel very certain I dreamed the future in some way....the Hawklords dreams were recurring and so annoying that said, my friend Pierre was in an early incarnation of the local semi-legendary band 'The Nervebreakers", and they have a site, and I thought it fun considering some of the things his bandmate 'Barry Kooda", or wots is name has to say for instance, almost kicking Sid Vicious's ass (that's arse for Trev), being known by sting but not knowing sting, having his picture in the rolling stone, and playing with Roky Erickson link: http://www.nervebreakers.com/history.htm so anyway, thanks Trev, and nobody take each new day for granted........ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 22:42:59 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:42:59 -0400 Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah, I don't have any illusions about the possibilities actually getting Cerisano. Al tipped me off to that fact, like, 10 years ago when I asked him about "that guy who sang Siege & Investiture"... And yeah, I was just kind of assuming David H, I shouldn't take him for granted like that. :) Steve On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 10 Sep 2008, at 15:14 , Steve Swann wrote: >> >> You know, don't even ask *why* such a thing would occur to me, but I just >> thought how ridiculously awesome a band with Al, Ross and Joey Cerisano >> (Seige & Investitute) would be. :) > > > That would be awesome -- though good luck scoring Cerisano for availability! > (And isn't Ross now basically touring with what was a Manowar tribute band > behind him?) Still, Joey is still based largely in the NYC area, no? > > I guess they'd still need a bass player, but perhaps David Hirschberg > remains available. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 22:48:36 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:48:36 -0400 Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <9B029D2F-0EF8-4E7B-B84A-F25A117665C1@cellsum.com> Message-ID: Wasn't it supposed to be a "bizarre gardening accident"? All joking aside though, I hope he's ok! David is such a great guy.... Steve On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Albert Bouchard wrote: > David is out of commission for the moment having injured his middle finger > on his left hand in a kitchen mishap (actually pretty serious) but I'm > trying to get him back in shape to play a Obama benefit in Woodstock on > October 11 with the Underbelly (featuring Joe Bouchard). > > On Sep 10, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> On 10 Sep 2008, at 15:14 , Steve Swann wrote: >>> >>> You know, don't even ask *why* such a thing would occur to me, but I just >>> thought how ridiculously awesome a band with Al, Ross and Joey Cerisano >>> (Seige & Investitute) would be. :) >> >> >> That would be awesome -- though good luck scoring Cerisano for >> availability! (And isn't Ross now basically touring with what was a Manowar >> tribute band behind him?) Still, Joey is still based largely in the NYC >> area, no? >> >> I guess they'd still need a bass player, but perhaps David Hirschberg >> remains available. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 23:05:35 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:05:35 -0500 Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <919e368d0809101942j538cef22h2a85dcc1ea6940b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 21:42 , Steve Swann wrote: > Yeah, I don't have any illusions about the possibilities actually > getting Cerisano. Al tipped me off to that fact, like, 10 years ago > when I asked him about "that guy who sang Siege & Investiture"... But, hey, as long as we're dreaming .... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 10 23:17:45 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:17:45 -0500 Subject: BOC: real and alternate histories (was Re: 80s Metal) In-Reply-To: <3303911303.963891@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 16:08 , Steve Swann wrote: > Argh yes, I hate the way Imaginos (due to timing, politics, and a > variety of other factors) ended up falling through the cracks, and > becoming (depending on whose point of view you take) either the > "lost classic" or the unwanted bastard child. But either way, left > behind. > God damn it. > So, I love your alternate history take on it, where instead it > becomes the vehicle for their triumphant reunion. :) I thought a great album deserved a more powerful role. :) Yeah, when I achieve omnipotence (any day now ...) I'll sort it all out. ;) Yeah, the timing and all that .... Reality bites! Well, so it goes. Still, as it is, I'm glad Imaginos happened at all. And given its bizarre background and creation process, it's really incredibly how strong it turned out and how well it holds up _20_ years after release (and longer yet since some of the recording sessions that survive onto the released version, too be sure). It's either one of the best BOC albums, or the best albums that should be (or have been) a BOC album. A great album in any case. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 10 23:22:30 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:22:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <92953A44-E5EB-428D-99D0-E5A0D6B23BA8@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Either way, what a hell of a comeback, huh? I can hardly think of another band that, so many years into their career, actually got their shit in gear again and came out with 2 of their best albums decades after most people had written them off. So, I just listened to Paschandale again, to make sure I wasn't just overrating it from memory. Holy shit, I'm totally not. :) Steve On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 10 Sep 2008, at 07:17 , Steve Swann wrote: >> >> I always confuse DoD and AMOLAD just because of the names and thenatic >> similarity, but if I recall correctly I think I agree with you. DoD has >> Paschandale which I think is overall my favorite Iron Maiden song (even over >> and above my previous favorites like The Trooper, Flight of Icarus, Number >> of the Beast and Run to the Hills) but (assuming I'm not conflating them yet >> again) :) I think _A Matter..._ is overall a better album. > > > AMOLAD has stuff like "For the Greater Good of God", "Brighter Than a > Thousand Suns" .... Yeah, DoD is pretty solid and "Paschandale" is > stupendous, though I think AMOLAD edges it out for me as a totality. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 08:45:41 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:45:41 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809101802m1d14ee57mef1bbe7b45eb7f3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: yawn!... have you carried out your orders coleman, because i forgot to add...we shoot deserters judge trev judgement division Judge Trev website: http://www.judgetrev.com AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS THE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:02 AM To: Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > first: > want to thank Judge Trev, as it just occurred to me that, for some reason, > mostly known from above, I contacted him when I wasn't even contacting > local > people in my life. > He encouraged me for a long time to "participate" once again. I thank him > for the new (albeit still shitty) life that I have. I was in touch with > him > a LONG TIME before I started bothering this forum again..... > next: nobody is getting younger and people are departing. very sad. my > best > friend who I never hear from because he is the worst case of video game > addiction the world has ever seen, and it's ugly, so ugly(and I've cleaned > up a real crack house with candle wax all over the walls) , just had his > brother fall over dead of a heart attack 3 days ago.....out of the blue, > he > was about 50...... > I think at this point I almost deserve a reward for being so good at > "completely rejecting every one and every thing" (of course every one and > every thing also rejects me so it's mutual), but I did cave > being alone month after month can do funny things to the mind, and so I > caved a bit > I googled and found my lost collecter friend Pierre Thompson, And god > bless > him, he's still there, and the poor guy has been waiting for a new HW LP > since "The Elf and the Hawk", so I took care of that...... > more on him in a minute, thought I'd mention that Mary Bruce seems to be > doing pretty good, she took a bit of a dive there for a while, which I > feared would happen, but she's hangin' tough..... > which leads to this: she is into a lot of stuff that I generally am not, > one > of them being dreams.......I figured something "cosmic" can happen very > seldom and occasionally, but mostly thought they are nothing more than our > own invention. But I just had a revelation. I used to wake up dreaming of > collecting a bunch of Hawklords 45's and records, and it would KILL ME to > wake up and realise I had no collection, no more family, just nothing. no > joy. NEVER would I have planned for the Hawklords to be a focus of a new > collection if such a thing were even imgainable at the time, and it > certainly wasn't. But this is exactly what has happened, the most > prominent > new things have been tons of Hawklords stuff. I feel very certain I > dreamed > the future in some way....the Hawklords dreams were recurring and so > annoying > that said, my friend Pierre was in an early incarnation of the local > semi-legendary band 'The Nervebreakers", and they have a site, and I > thought > it fun considering some of the things his bandmate 'Barry Kooda", or wots > is > name has to say > for instance, almost kicking Sid Vicious's ass (that's arse for Trev), > being > known by sting but not knowing sting, having his picture in the rolling > stone, and playing with Roky Erickson > link: http://www.nervebreakers.com/history.htm > so anyway, thanks Trev, and nobody take each new day for granted........ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 11 09:15:11 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:15:11 -0500 Subject: tBS/BOC: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <919e368d0809101948m69819612uf4292a69e432c58d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 21:48 , Steve Swann wrote: > Wasn't it supposed to be a "bizarre gardening accident"? I would expect a bass player to be able to escape with only temporary entrapment in a giant pod .... > All joking aside though, I hope he's ok! David is such a great > guy.... Yes, indeed -- best wishes to his speedy recovery and return to the fretboard! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 10:21:15 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:21:15 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: YEs I ran around town naked with ICU written on my chest hairs, and I even became somewhat aroused at one point, but funny enough and just my luck, it seemed like nobody even noticed me, and I even ran alongside the highway I really think you guys should let me give the directions for this promo biz.... you gave me the yawn of hawkwind?? now THAT hurts......but it's not totally fair since you saw all the contents of the mail already I guess it's getting time to call you and yell in your ear or something OHHHHH you're ruffled because I warned about the explosion...... On 9/11/08, trev wrote: > > yawn!... > > have you carried out your orders coleman, because i forgot to add...we > shoot deserters > > judge trev > > judgement division > > Judge Trev website: http://www.judgetrev.com > AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF > THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME > OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS THE JUDGES AND > IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:02 AM > To: > Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > first: >> want to thank Judge Trev, as it just occurred to me that, for some reason, >> mostly known from above, I contacted him when I wasn't even contacting >> local >> people in my life. >> He encouraged me for a long time to "participate" once again. I thank him >> for the new (albeit still shitty) life that I have. I was in touch with >> him >> a LONG TIME before I started bothering this forum again..... >> next: nobody is getting younger and people are departing. very sad. my >> best >> friend who I never hear from because he is the worst case of video game >> addiction the world has ever seen, and it's ugly, so ugly(and I've cleaned >> up a real crack house with candle wax all over the walls) , just had his >> brother fall over dead of a heart attack 3 days ago.....out of the blue, >> he >> was about 50...... >> I think at this point I almost deserve a reward for being so good at >> "completely rejecting every one and every thing" (of course every one and >> every thing also rejects me so it's mutual), but I did cave >> being alone month after month can do funny things to the mind, and so I >> caved a bit >> I googled and found my lost collecter friend Pierre Thompson, And god >> bless >> him, he's still there, and the poor guy has been waiting for a new HW LP >> since "The Elf and the Hawk", so I took care of that...... >> more on him in a minute, thought I'd mention that Mary Bruce seems to be >> doing pretty good, she took a bit of a dive there for a while, which I >> feared would happen, but she's hangin' tough..... >> which leads to this: she is into a lot of stuff that I generally am not, >> one >> of them being dreams.......I figured something "cosmic" can happen very >> seldom and occasionally, but mostly thought they are nothing more than our >> own invention. But I just had a revelation. I used to wake up dreaming of >> collecting a bunch of Hawklords 45's and records, and it would KILL ME to >> wake up and realise I had no collection, no more family, just nothing. no >> joy. NEVER would I have planned for the Hawklords to be a focus of a new >> collection if such a thing were even imgainable at the time, and it >> certainly wasn't. But this is exactly what has happened, the most >> prominent >> new things have been tons of Hawklords stuff. I feel very certain I >> dreamed >> the future in some way....the Hawklords dreams were recurring and so >> annoying >> that said, my friend Pierre was in an early incarnation of the local >> semi-legendary band 'The Nervebreakers", and they have a site, and I >> thought >> it fun considering some of the things his bandmate 'Barry Kooda", or wots >> is >> name has to say >> for instance, almost kicking Sid Vicious's ass (that's arse for Trev), >> being >> known by sting but not knowing sting, having his picture in the rolling >> stone, and playing with Roky Erickson >> link: http://www.nervebreakers.com/history.htm >> so anyway, thanks Trev, and nobody take each new day for granted........ >> >> From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 11 10:28:50 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:28:50 +0100 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808231656m3a99b786rc75ceda01817b6b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 06:56:57PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > Jon, I absolutely love Dangerous Vision!!! I Fucking love it!!! of > course, arguments about my sanity could easily be made against me and I'd > just be complimented.........I won't go any further because this is your > territory and I respect everyone's station but I will butt right out by > saying....Zones comes as close to the brown note (I think) as Mary's gonna > get with the whistle (which I have always loved from day one), or at least > the psycoacoocoostiks, just ask her how she's affected.... > (agreed the rest of the album has always been a bit lacklustre but I still > haven't peeled off either of my Japanese copy's...) Mike, while you will always have my respect as a Kollector and source of The Nollidge, no-one in their right minds can love `Dangerous Visions'. But I think the whistle is as worthy a sonic attack as any, and it makes the relentless quality of that particular `Brainstorm' seem all the more cyberpunk and dystopian as a result I reckon. Hey, the coffee was obviously good today, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 11 10:41:16 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:41:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <919e368d0809102022y22b071abq13c77f8310109a31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2008, at 22:22 , Steve Swann wrote: > Either way, what a hell of a comeback, huh? I can hardly think of > another band that, so many years into their career, actually got their > shit in gear again and came out with 2 of their best albums decades > after most people had written them off. > So, I just listened to Paschandale again, to make sure I wasn't just > overrating it from memory. Holy shit, I'm totally not. :) Agreed! Though let's not forget they've actually had _3_ studio albums since the return of Dickinson and Smith to the band: the first was _Brave New World_ (also quite good! "The Wicker Man" etc.), followed by DoD and them AMALAD. So they really came out swinging, and haven't let down the side since. Though I would not want to say that other albums from, ah, _older_ artists :) that have not gotten the same commercial or critical attention are any less good. tBS might have been playing grimy clubs instead of selling out giant stadiums, but I don't think _Denial of Death_ is any less good. Likewise, the Iommi/Hughes _Fused_ album surely made barely a ripple in terms of sales figures, but a "reunion" studio album featuring the original Sabbath lineup would surely have contained very similar music indeed, though have surely attracted considerably more media attention and sales (in the event, there wasn't so much as a gig in support of it, let alone a tour!). Whether or not the upcoming Heaven & Hell (="Mob Rules" lineup) album is actually as good (though of course it could be as good or better), it will surely sell more copies in any case. As with Imaginos, all the musical brilliance in the world can only help so much when one's market position is not good. :/ Maiden's post-reunion success in musical terms in all theirs, but the commercial angle is unquestionably aided by the fact that they have come out as a reunited (even augmented) _band_ and only spent the 90s and two albums without Smith and Dickinson ... well, I guess 3 albums without Smith. (I don't think the real problem with the "Blaze" era was really Blaze -- I think the band was in many ways right to pick a different kind of singer with which to be going forward -- and think the problem was principally that they were missing two contributing songwriters, and Harris wasn't carrying that job all on his own. Harris is more prolific than Buck Dharma, but the dynamic there when too many other writers are absent seems similar.) Likewise, in HW, with Brock slow to produce new songs these days and Alan (who contributed a fair percentage of the writing over the last few decades) out of the band, and Richard not _really_ a top drawer writer AFAICT, I am dubious about HW's capacity to produce new material (and then not process it into the ground in the studio! ;)). Still, I do have real hopes that Maiden and H&H can produce yet more cool albums! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 10:42:07 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:42:07 -0500 Subject: this is not OFF sorry Message-ID: I purposely did not put off in this mail because it is a desperate cry for help and I want to reach anyone that may know we need a source for the heavy PVC outer LP jackets that Simply Vinyl used (they appear to have gone out of business?), and now a company called EARMARK?? anyway, if anyone can help here PLEASE DO and state what I owe for the info mike From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 13:12:38 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:12:38 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809101802m1d14ee57mef1bbe7b45eb7f3b@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809110721j3a593ffcqbb55109d71ca40ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: since you have completely ignored the commission sent to you, i'm sending it to the whole list just to show them the extent of your dereliction of duty...for which you are going to be shot... ...and if there are any fundamentalists on this list who believe in creationism over darwin, you'll be shot too...oh yes this move was initiated by the mighty thunder rider himself here is what i sent to coleman, which he ignored: i see you i see all your mails it will take a lot more than this type of insignificant gossip to grab my holy attention icu are moving against the fundamentalist christians, namely clear channel (biggest radio network in usa), and their attack upon the minds of the flower of western youth in the uk, via their fifth columnists, live nation. we have mobilised and our divisions come to conquer or to die. our battle honours are unfurled and the destruction of their ally thatcher will no doubt rile them to fury gather information send it to me in particular, we need the lists of uk radio stations which have been bought up (we have the list of fallen venues already) as you are a texan, and in fudamentalist christian territory, your chances of survival are slim if you join our glorious ranks however, i expect nothing less from you than total commitment of your brigades in the west. look the enemy up on the internet and learn of their alliance with the devil himself. spend many many hours on this judge trev Judge Trev website: http://www.judgetrev.com AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS THE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:21 PM To: Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > YEs I ran around town naked with ICU written on my chest hairs, and I even > became somewhat aroused at one point, but funny enough and just my luck, > it > seemed like nobody even noticed me, and I even ran alongside the highway > I really think you guys should let me give the directions for this promo > biz.... > you gave me the yawn of hawkwind?? now THAT hurts......but it's not > totally > fair since you saw all the contents of the mail already > I guess it's getting time to call you and yell in your ear or something > OHHHHH you're ruffled because I warned about the explosion...... > > On 9/11/08, trev wrote: >> >> yawn!... >> >> have you carried out your orders coleman, because i forgot to add...we >> shoot deserters >> >> judge trev >> >> judgement division >> >> Judge Trev website: http://www.judgetrev.com >> AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF >> THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A >> FLAME >> OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS THE JUDGES >> AND >> IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:02 AM >> To: >> Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff >> >> first: >>> want to thank Judge Trev, as it just occurred to me that, for some >>> reason, >>> mostly known from above, I contacted him when I wasn't even contacting >>> local >>> people in my life. >>> He encouraged me for a long time to "participate" once again. I thank >>> him >>> for the new (albeit still shitty) life that I have. I was in touch with >>> him >>> a LONG TIME before I started bothering this forum again..... >>> next: nobody is getting younger and people are departing. very sad. my >>> best >>> friend who I never hear from because he is the worst case of video game >>> addiction the world has ever seen, and it's ugly, so ugly(and I've >>> cleaned >>> up a real crack house with candle wax all over the walls) , just had his >>> brother fall over dead of a heart attack 3 days ago.....out of the blue, >>> he >>> was about 50...... >>> I think at this point I almost deserve a reward for being so good at >>> "completely rejecting every one and every thing" (of course every one >>> and >>> every thing also rejects me so it's mutual), but I did cave >>> being alone month after month can do funny things to the mind, and so I >>> caved a bit >>> I googled and found my lost collecter friend Pierre Thompson, And god >>> bless >>> him, he's still there, and the poor guy has been waiting for a new HW LP >>> since "The Elf and the Hawk", so I took care of that...... >>> more on him in a minute, thought I'd mention that Mary Bruce seems to be >>> doing pretty good, she took a bit of a dive there for a while, which I >>> feared would happen, but she's hangin' tough..... >>> which leads to this: she is into a lot of stuff that I generally am not, >>> one >>> of them being dreams.......I figured something "cosmic" can happen very >>> seldom and occasionally, but mostly thought they are nothing more than >>> our >>> own invention. But I just had a revelation. I used to wake up dreaming >>> of >>> collecting a bunch of Hawklords 45's and records, and it would KILL ME >>> to >>> wake up and realise I had no collection, no more family, just nothing. >>> no >>> joy. NEVER would I have planned for the Hawklords to be a focus of a new >>> collection if such a thing were even imgainable at the time, and it >>> certainly wasn't. But this is exactly what has happened, the most >>> prominent >>> new things have been tons of Hawklords stuff. I feel very certain I >>> dreamed >>> the future in some way....the Hawklords dreams were recurring and so >>> annoying >>> that said, my friend Pierre was in an early incarnation of the local >>> semi-legendary band 'The Nervebreakers", and they have a site, and I >>> thought >>> it fun considering some of the things his bandmate 'Barry Kooda", or >>> wots >>> is >>> name has to say >>> for instance, almost kicking Sid Vicious's ass (that's arse for Trev), >>> being >>> known by sting but not knowing sting, having his picture in the rolling >>> stone, and playing with Roky Erickson >>> link: http://www.nervebreakers.com/history.htm >>> so anyway, thanks Trev, and nobody take each new day for granted........ >>> >>> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 13:17:19 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:17:19 +0100 Subject: this is not OFF sorry In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809110742r43d52c0ex52a911af4b4296ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: the future of mankind hangs in the balance and all you can talk about is pvc jackets gaaaaaaaaaaaaaa -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:42 PM To: Subject: this is not OFF sorry > I purposely did not put off in this mail because it is a desperate cry for > help and I want to reach anyone that may know > we need a source for the heavy PVC outer LP jackets that Simply Vinyl used > (they appear to have gone out of business?), and now a company called > EARMARK?? > anyway, if anyone can help here PLEASE DO and state what I owe for the > info > mike > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 13:56:05 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:56:05 +0100 Subject: this is not OFF sorry In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809110742r43d52c0ex52a911af4b4296ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: here is an actual example of speaking in tongues asjkler ntr nilpdfio;rtiojut5npiopqett5jcipqm[ofw4tjhi5hjg jdfn;ftrhkoseuiteu89[hutusdrtjhori;u8w4nuptrhtio[tyiohuriogudtyunhtornudtyu gor blimey...that felt good -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:17 PM To: Subject: Re: this is not OFF sorry > the future of mankind hangs in the balance and all you can talk about is > pvc jackets > > gaaaaaaaaaaaaaa > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:42 PM > To: > Subject: this is not OFF sorry > >> I purposely did not put off in this mail because it is a desperate cry >> for >> help and I want to reach anyone that may know >> we need a source for the heavy PVC outer LP jackets that Simply Vinyl >> used >> (they appear to have gone out of business?), and now a company called >> EARMARK?? >> anyway, if anyone can help here PLEASE DO and state what I owe for the >> info >> mike >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 14:31:26 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:31:26 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: before I even read this 1) who but whom had the nerve and the guts to say theY wanted Nik IN hawkwind?? well??? 2) who but whom had the nerve to say they thought the twin heads of the hawk had human representatives? 3) yes, my life was so insane battling christians when I simply needed time to cry and cry and cry I am actually a dangerous person in real life now and I find this very liberating and I challenge you to prove yourself by coming here and helping me destroy the human race, which I am capable of doing all by myself, and am certainly going to do (for my late mother who is now everyones mother), and humans will be rebuilt in a very tiny fashion on a foundation that Nik has undertsood longer thaN MYSELF AND ONE WHICH YOU ARE IN THE DISCOVERY THOWS OF.... *light, WHICH IS INTERCHANGEABLE WITH LOVE* *I WANT TO GIVE WILFRIED THE 45 SO BAD..........* On 9/11/08, trev wrote: > > since you have completely ignored the commission sent to you, i'm sending > it to the whole list just to show them the extent of your dereliction of > duty...for which you are going to be shot... > > ...and if there are any fundamentalists on this list who believe in > creationism over darwin, you'll be shot too...oh yes > > this move was initiated by the mighty thunder rider himself > > here is what i sent to coleman, which he ignored: > > > i see you > i see all your mails > it will take a lot more than this type of insignificant gossip to grab my > holy attention > > icu are moving against the fundamentalist christians, namely clear channel > (biggest radio network in usa), and their attack upon the minds of the > flower of western youth in the uk, via their fifth columnists, live nation. > > we have mobilised and our divisions come to conquer or to die. > our battle honours are unfurled and the destruction of their ally thatcher > will no doubt rile them to fury > > gather information > > send it to me > > in particular, we need the lists of uk radio stations which have been > bought up (we have the list of fallen venues already) > > as you are a texan, and in fudamentalist christian territory, your chances > of survival are slim if you join our glorious ranks > > however, i expect nothing less from you than total commitment of your > brigades in the west. > > look the enemy up on the internet and learn of their alliance with the > devil himself. > > spend many many hours on this > > > judge trev > > Judge Trev website: http://www.judgetrev.com > AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF > THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME > OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS THE JUDGES AND > IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:21 PM > To: > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > YEs I ran around town naked with ICU written on my chest hairs, and I even >> became somewhat aroused at one point, but funny enough and just my luck, >> it >> seemed like nobody even noticed me, and I even ran alongside the highway >> I really think you guys should let me give the directions for this promo >> biz.... >> you gave me the yawn of hawkwind?? now THAT hurts......but it's not >> totally >> fair since you saw all the contents of the mail already >> I guess it's getting time to call you and yell in your ear or something >> OHHHHH you're ruffled because I warned about the explosion...... >> >> On 9/11/08, trev wrote: >> >>> >>> yawn!... >>> >>> have you carried out your orders coleman, because i forgot to add...we >>> shoot deserters >>> >>> judge trev >>> >>> judgement division >>> >>> Judge Trev website: http://www.judgetrev.com >>> AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN THE LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF >>> THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS EYES WERE AS A >>> FLAME >>> OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS THE JUDGES >>> AND >>> IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:02 AM >>> To: >>> Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff >>> >>> first: >>> >>>> want to thank Judge Trev, as it just occurred to me that, for some >>>> reason, >>>> mostly known from above, I contacted him when I wasn't even contacting >>>> local >>>> people in my life. >>>> He encouraged me for a long time to "participate" once again. I thank >>>> him >>>> for the new (albeit still shitty) life that I have. I was in touch with >>>> him >>>> a LONG TIME before I started bothering this forum again..... >>>> next: nobody is getting younger and people are departing. very sad. my >>>> best >>>> friend who I never hear from because he is the worst case of video game >>>> addiction the world has ever seen, and it's ugly, so ugly(and I've >>>> cleaned >>>> up a real crack house with candle wax all over the walls) , just had his >>>> brother fall over dead of a heart attack 3 days ago.....out of the blue, >>>> he >>>> was about 50...... >>>> I think at this point I almost deserve a reward for being so good at >>>> "completely rejecting every one and every thing" (of course every one >>>> and >>>> every thing also rejects me so it's mutual), but I did cave >>>> being alone month after month can do funny things to the mind, and so I >>>> caved a bit >>>> I googled and found my lost collecter friend Pierre Thompson, And god >>>> bless >>>> him, he's still there, and the poor guy has been waiting for a new HW LP >>>> since "The Elf and the Hawk", so I took care of that...... >>>> more on him in a minute, thought I'd mention that Mary Bruce seems to be >>>> doing pretty good, she took a bit of a dive there for a while, which I >>>> feared would happen, but she's hangin' tough..... >>>> which leads to this: she is into a lot of stuff that I generally am not, >>>> one >>>> of them being dreams.......I figured something "cosmic" can happen very >>>> seldom and occasionally, but mostly thought they are nothing more than >>>> our >>>> own invention. But I just had a revelation. I used to wake up dreaming >>>> of >>>> collecting a bunch of Hawklords 45's and records, and it would KILL ME >>>> to >>>> wake up and realise I had no collection, no more family, just nothing. >>>> no >>>> joy. NEVER would I have planned for the Hawklords to be a focus of a new >>>> collection if such a thing were even imgainable at the time, and it >>>> certainly wasn't. But this is exactly what has happened, the most >>>> prominent >>>> new things have been tons of Hawklords stuff. I feel very certain I >>>> dreamed >>>> the future in some way....the Hawklords dreams were recurring and so >>>> annoying >>>> that said, my friend Pierre was in an early incarnation of the local >>>> semi-legendary band 'The Nervebreakers", and they have a site, and I >>>> thought >>>> it fun considering some of the things his bandmate 'Barry Kooda", or >>>> wots >>>> is >>>> name has to say >>>> for instance, almost kicking Sid Vicious's ass (that's arse for Trev), >>>> being >>>> known by sting but not knowing sting, having his picture in the rolling >>>> stone, and playing with Roky Erickson >>>> link: http://www.nervebreakers.com/history.htm >>>> so anyway, thanks Trev, and nobody take each new day for granted........ >>>> >>>> >>>> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 14:47:13 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:47:13 -0500 Subject: this is not OFF sorry, WELL YES IT IS OFF Message-ID: LOL LOVE IT OR HATE IT, DAVE BROCK GAINED POSSESION OF THE EARTH. YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT FORCE HIS HAND YOU, NOT i, HAVE FAILED TO SEE THE CRAFTY WORK LAID BEFORE YOU SO THEREFORE, PVC SLEEVES ARE VERY VERY SIGNIFICANT PS-i NEED An LP TO PUT THAT RED WAX YOU GAVE ME WITH i FONDLE IT SOMETIMES LATE AT NIGHT IN THE CLOSET i AM SURE THE NEIGHBORS WONDER WHY i AM IN THE CLOSET SO OFTEN NOW SEND ME A TURNTABLE AND i'LL PUT YOU BACK ON TRACK On 9/11/08, trev wrote: > > here is an actual example of speaking in tongues > > asjkler ntr nilpdfio;rtiojut5npiopqett5jcipqm[ofw4tjhi5hjg > jdfn;ftrhkoseuiteu89[hutusdrtjhori;u8w4nuptrhtio[tyiohuriogudtyunhtornudtyu > > gor blimey...that felt good > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "trev" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:17 PM > To: > Subject: Re: this is not OFF sorry > > the future of mankind hangs in the balance and all you can talk about is >> pvc jackets >> >> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:42 PM >> To: >> Subject: this is not OFF sorry >> >> I purposely did not put off in this mail because it is a desperate cry for >>> help and I want to reach anyone that may know >>> we need a source for the heavy PVC outer LP jackets that Simply Vinyl >>> used >>> (they appear to have gone out of business?), and now a company called >>> EARMARK?? >>> anyway, if anyone can help here PLEASE DO and state what I owe for the >>> info >>> mike >>> >>> >> From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 15:52:39 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:52:39 +0100 Subject: ON In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809111147jab2367bs3ee93617c53e2d30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: i have set your execution date 4 am, 12th december, 2008 leave the door open so we can get in -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:47 PM To: Subject: Re: this is not OFF sorry, WELL YES IT IS OFF > LOL > LOVE IT OR HATE IT, DAVE BROCK GAINED POSSESION OF THE EARTH. > YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT FORCE HIS HAND > YOU, NOT i, HAVE FAILED TO SEE THE CRAFTY WORK LAID BEFORE YOU > SO THEREFORE, PVC SLEEVES ARE VERY VERY SIGNIFICANT > PS-i NEED An LP TO PUT THAT RED WAX YOU GAVE ME WITH > i FONDLE IT SOMETIMES LATE AT NIGHT IN THE CLOSET > i AM SURE THE NEIGHBORS WONDER WHY i AM IN THE CLOSET SO OFTEN > NOW SEND ME A TURNTABLE AND i'LL PUT YOU BACK ON TRACK > > > On 9/11/08, trev wrote: >> >> here is an actual example of speaking in tongues >> >> asjkler ntr nilpdfio;rtiojut5npiopqett5jcipqm[ofw4tjhi5hjg >> jdfn;ftrhkoseuiteu89[hutusdrtjhori;u8w4nuptrhtio[tyiohuriogudtyunhtornudtyu >> >> gor blimey...that felt good >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "trev" >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:17 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: this is not OFF sorry >> >> the future of mankind hangs in the balance and all you can talk about is >>> pvc jackets >>> >>> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:42 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: this is not OFF sorry >>> >>> I purposely did not put off in this mail because it is a desperate cry >>> for >>>> help and I want to reach anyone that may know >>>> we need a source for the heavy PVC outer LP jackets that Simply Vinyl >>>> used >>>> (they appear to have gone out of business?), and now a company called >>>> EARMARK?? >>>> anyway, if anyone can help here PLEASE DO and state what I owe for the >>>> info >>>> mike >>>> >>>> >>> > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 16:06:46 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff Message-ID: Mike I just had to tell you what a riot it is watching you finger-paint with the English language. ;-) Anyway if you and Trev destroy Clear Channel I'll buy you all the vinyl sleeves you want. You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite CC having a big stake in them. XM Fungus makes me happy that the world exists. ;) Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 2:33 pm Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET before I even read this 1) who but whom had the nerve and the guts to say theY wanted Nik IN hawkwind?? well??? 2) who but whom had the nerve to say they thought the twin heads of the hawk had human representatives? 3) yes, my life was so insane battling christians when I simply needed time to cry and cry and cry I am actually a dangerous person in real life now and I find this very liberating and I challenge you to prove yourself by coming here and helping me destroy the human race, which I am capable of doing all by myself, and am certainly going to do (for my late mother who is now everyones mother), and humans will be rebuilt in a very tiny fashion on a foundation that Nik has undertsood longer thaN MYSELF AND ONE WHICH YOU ARE IN THE DISCOVERY THOWS OF.... *light, WHICH IS INTERCHANGEABLE WITH LOVE* *I WANT TO GIVE WILFRIED THE 45 SO BAD..........* On 9/11/08, trev wrote: > since you have completely ignored the commission sent to you, i'm sending it to the whole list just to show them the extent of your dereliction of duty...for which you are going to be shot... > ...and if there are any fundamentalists on this list who believe in creationism over darwin, you'll be shot too...oh yes > this move was initiated by the mighty thunder rider himself > here is what i sent to coleman, which he ignored: > i see you i see all your mails it will take a lot more than this type of insignificant gossip to grab my holy attention > icu are moving against the fundamentalist christians, namely clear channel (biggest radio network in usa), and their attack upon the minds of the flower of western youth in the uk, via their fifth columnists, live nation. > we have mobilised and our divisions come to conquer or to die. our battle honours are unfurled and the destruction of their ally thatcher will no doubt rile them to fury > gather information > send it to me > in particular, we need the lists of uk radio stations which have been bought up (we have the list of fallen venues already) > as you are a texan, and in fudamentalist christian territory, your chances of survival are slim if you join our glorious ranks > however, i expect nothing less from you than total commitment of your brigades in the west. > look the enemy up on the internet and learn of their alliance with the devil himself. > spend many many hours on this > ju From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Thu Sep 11 16:14:55 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:14:55 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <3303994005.3049236@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: >You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite CC having a big stake in them CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. -S. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 16:27:45 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:27:45 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <3303994005.3049236@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: OUT OF BIG LOVE i NOW REVEAL: ALL EARTH ACTIVITIES ARE IN FACT GOVERENED BY THE LUNAR SURFACE EVERYTHING MUST BE CLEARED BY HI T EVERYTHING YOU DESIRE SHALL BE YOURS THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT... On 9/11/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > Mike I just had to tell you what a riot it is watching you finger-paint > with the English language. ;-) > > Anyway if you and Trev destroy Clear Channel I'll buy you all the vinyl > sleeves you want. > > You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite CC > having a big stake in them. XM Fungus makes me happy that the world > exists. ;) > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 2:33 pm > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > before I even read this > 1) who but whom had the nerve and the guts to say theY wanted Nik IN > hawkwind?? well??? > 2) who but whom had the nerve to say they thought the twin heads of the > hawk had human representatives? > 3) yes, my life was so insane battling christians when I simply needed time > to cry and cry and cry > I am actually a dangerous person in real life now and I find this very > liberating and I challenge you to prove yourself by coming here and helping > me destroy the human race, which I am capable of doing all by myself, and am > certainly going to do (for my late mother who is now everyones mother), and > humans will be rebuilt in a very tiny fashion on a foundation that Nik has > undertsood longer thaN MYSELF AND ONE WHICH YOU ARE IN THE DISCOVERY THOWS > OF.... > *light, WHICH IS INTERCHANGEABLE WITH LOVE* > *I WANT TO GIVE WILFRIED THE 45 SO BAD..........* > > > On 9/11/08, trev wrote: > > > since you have completely ignored the commission sent to you, i'm sending > it to the whole list just to show them the extent of your dereliction of > duty...for which you are going to be shot... > > > ...and if there are any fundamentalists on this list who believe in > creationism over darwin, you'll be shot too...oh yes > > > this move was initiated by the mighty thunder rider himself > > > here is what i sent to coleman, which he ignored: > > > > i see you > i see all your mails > it will take a lot more than this type of insignificant gossip to grab my > holy attention > > > icu are moving against the fundamentalist christians, namely clear > channel > (biggest radio network in usa), and their attack upon the minds of the > flower of western youth in the uk, via their fifth columnists, live nation. > > > we have mobilised and our divisions come to conquer or to die. > our battle honours are unfurled and the destruction of their ally thatcher > will no doubt rile them to fury > > > gather information > > > send it to me > > > in particular, we need the lists of uk radio stations which have been > bought up (we have the list of fallen venues already) > > > as you are a texan, and in fudamentalist christian territory, your > chances > of survival are slim if you join our glorious ranks > > > however, i expect nothing less from you than total commitment of your > brigades in the west. > > > look the enemy up on the internet and learn of their alliance with the > devil himself. > > > spend many many hours on this > > > > ju > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 18:39:39 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:39:39 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <3303994005.3049236@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Pond" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM To: Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: > >>You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite CC >>having a big stake in them > > > CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. > > I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly > merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is > populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. > > -S. > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 18:48:39 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:48:39 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <3303994005.3049236@smtp.gmail.com> <17d80c610809111327h2f2cd3cn5f636b4e421dab3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: YES EVERYTHING EVERYTHING...I'M SO FULL OF MYSELF, HAVING JUST PUT UP THE SECOND OF OUR RFM PHOTO REVIEWS OF THE HIGHLAND FESTIVALS. ITS FULL OF SCOTTISH AND FRENCH BIRDS...LEAPING LEAPING LEAPING...SHOT BY OUR NEW SCOTTISH SUN PHOTOGRAPHER DUNCAN http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/belladrum.html what d'a means its off topic ok we'll get back to killing then... trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:27 PM To: Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > OUT OF BIG LOVE i NOW REVEAL: > ALL EARTH ACTIVITIES ARE IN FACT GOVERENED BY THE LUNAR SURFACE > EVERYTHING MUST BE CLEARED BY HI T > EVERYTHING YOU DESIRE SHALL BE YOURS > THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT... > > > On 9/11/08, Steve Swann wrote: >> >> Mike I just had to tell you what a riot it is watching you finger-paint >> with the English language. ;-) >> >> Anyway if you and Trev destroy Clear Channel I'll buy you all the vinyl >> sleeves you want. >> >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite CC >> having a big stake in them. XM Fungus makes me happy that the world >> exists. ;) >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mike coleman >> Date: Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 2:33 pm >> Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff >> To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> To: >> BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> >> before I even read this >> 1) who but whom had the nerve and the guts to say theY wanted Nik IN >> hawkwind?? well??? >> 2) who but whom had the nerve to say they thought the twin heads of the >> hawk had human representatives? >> 3) yes, my life was so insane battling christians when I simply needed >> time >> to cry and cry and cry >> I am actually a dangerous person in real life now and I find this very >> liberating and I challenge you to prove yourself by coming here and >> helping >> me destroy the human race, which I am capable of doing all by myself, and >> am >> certainly going to do (for my late mother who is now everyones mother), >> and >> humans will be rebuilt in a very tiny fashion on a foundation that Nik >> has >> undertsood longer thaN MYSELF AND ONE WHICH YOU ARE IN THE DISCOVERY >> THOWS >> OF.... >> *light, WHICH IS INTERCHANGEABLE WITH LOVE* >> *I WANT TO GIVE WILFRIED THE 45 SO BAD..........* >> >> >> On 9/11/08, trev wrote: >> >> > since you have completely ignored the commission sent to you, i'm >> > sending >> it to the whole list just to show them the extent of your dereliction of >> duty...for which you are going to be shot... >> >> > ...and if there are any fundamentalists on this list who believe in >> creationism over darwin, you'll be shot too...oh yes >> >> > this move was initiated by the mighty thunder rider himself >> >> > here is what i sent to coleman, which he ignored: >> >> > >> i see you >> i see all your mails >> it will take a lot more than this type of insignificant gossip to grab my >> holy attention >> >> > icu are moving against the fundamentalist christians, namely clear >> channel >> (biggest radio network in usa), and their attack upon the minds of the >> flower of western youth in the uk, via their fifth columnists, live >> nation. >> >> > we have mobilised and our divisions come to conquer or to die. >> our battle honours are unfurled and the destruction of their ally >> thatcher >> will no doubt rile them to fury >> >> > gather information >> >> > send it to me >> >> > in particular, we need the lists of uk radio stations which have been >> bought up (we have the list of fallen venues already) >> >> > as you are a texan, and in fudamentalist christian territory, your >> chances >> of survival are slim if you join our glorious ranks >> >> > however, i expect nothing less from you than total commitment of your >> brigades in the west. >> >> > look the enemy up on the internet and learn of their alliance with the >> devil himself. >> >> > spend many many hours on this >> >> > >> ju >> > From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 20:03:08 2008 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:03:08 +0800 Subject: Dave Allen and Dave Brock 45 single Kollektorbomb Message-ID: I've never seen this before - is it really just Brocky or is it Hawkwind??? > I tried to warn you all about Dave, but found myself in coded flames..... > In this case I got the joke, however I must warn any Kollektors with a > capitol K that following this link will likely result in something similar > to peeling off the warning sticker on a pxr5 LP (although that can be done, > somehow, just saw one...steam??): > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180283103033&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123 > one cool thing about being a demon in hell is you get cool records > looks like the dead man's hand again...... > anybody care to reverse engineer this one??? -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com Powered by Outblaze From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 20:54:32 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:54:32 -0500 Subject: Dave Allen and Dave Brock 45 single Kollektorbomb In-Reply-To: <20080912000308.C81E37BD45@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: *well I'm thrilled to find out (answering visionary head below, pardon my failure here)* *people at the top don't even know of this* *my guess says it's truly brock solo, apparently dave allen was pretty slick * *I cannot find anything about his record label and the seller was unfamiliar with either artist, but knew it was one USA and one British....* ** ** On 9/11/08, Visionary Head wrote: > > I've never seen this before - is it really just Brocky or is it Hawkwind??? > > > I tried to warn you all about Dave, but found myself in coded flames..... > > In this case I got the joke, however I must warn any Kollektors with a > > capitol K that following this link will likely result in something > similar > > to peeling off the warning sticker on a pxr5 LP (although that can be > done, > > somehow, just saw one...steam??): > > > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180283103033&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123 > > one cool thing about being a demon in hell is you get cool records > > looks like the dead man's hand again...... > > anybody care to reverse engineer this one??? > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com > > Powered by Outblaze > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 21:21:44 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:21:44 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: steve (pond) I tried contacting you months ago through your website, not too long after I was in touch with Trev, thought I did everything correct, and took my best however lame attempt at an apology to you, and figured it was rejected while I am fresh out of Hasbro UFO's (those all went in the estate sale), and I worked so hard getting you a good one (the motors varied), it did, _just_ occur to me that my shelf is buckling from Atomgods LP's, and while I can no longer offer you a USA cut-out, I can in fact offer the genuine article in case of the tiny chance you still didn't get that....... otherwise I am in store for some hevy creative thinking, looks like.... steve (swann) thank you so much On 9/11/08, trev wrote: > > YES EVERYTHING EVERYTHING...I'M SO FULL OF MYSELF, HAVING JUST PUT UP THE > SECOND OF OUR RFM PHOTO REVIEWS OF THE HIGHLAND FESTIVALS. ITS FULL OF > SCOTTISH AND FRENCH BIRDS...LEAPING LEAPING LEAPING...SHOT BY OUR NEW > SCOTTISH SUN PHOTOGRAPHER DUNCAN > > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/belladrum.html > > what d'a means its off topic > > ok we'll get back to killing then... > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:27 PM > To: > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > OUT OF BIG LOVE i NOW REVEAL: >> ALL EARTH ACTIVITIES ARE IN FACT GOVERENED BY THE LUNAR SURFACE >> EVERYTHING MUST BE CLEARED BY HI T >> EVERYTHING YOU DESIRE SHALL BE YOURS >> THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT... >> >> >> On 9/11/08, Steve Swann wrote: >> >>> >>> Mike I just had to tell you what a riot it is watching you finger-paint >>> with the English language. ;-) >>> >>> Anyway if you and Trev destroy Clear Channel I'll buy you all the vinyl >>> sleeves you want. >>> >>> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite CC >>> having a big stake in them. XM Fungus makes me happy that the world >>> exists. ;) >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mike coleman >>> Date: Thursday, Sep 11, 2008 2:33 pm >>> Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff >>> To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> >To: >>> BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> >>> before I even read this >>> 1) who but whom had the nerve and the guts to say theY wanted Nik IN >>> hawkwind?? well??? >>> 2) who but whom had the nerve to say they thought the twin heads of the >>> hawk had human representatives? >>> 3) yes, my life was so insane battling christians when I simply needed >>> time >>> to cry and cry and cry >>> I am actually a dangerous person in real life now and I find this very >>> liberating and I challenge you to prove yourself by coming here and >>> helping >>> me destroy the human race, which I am capable of doing all by myself, and >>> am >>> certainly going to do (for my late mother who is now everyones mother), >>> and >>> humans will be rebuilt in a very tiny fashion on a foundation that Nik >>> has >>> undertsood longer thaN MYSELF AND ONE WHICH YOU ARE IN THE DISCOVERY >>> THOWS >>> OF.... >>> *light, WHICH IS INTERCHANGEABLE WITH LOVE* >>> *I WANT TO GIVE WILFRIED THE 45 SO BAD..........* >>> >>> >>> On 9/11/08, trev wrote: >>> >>> > since you have completely ignored the commission sent to you, i'm > >>> sending >>> it to the whole list just to show them the extent of your dereliction of >>> duty...for which you are going to be shot... >>> >>> > ...and if there are any fundamentalists on this list who believe in >>> creationism over darwin, you'll be shot too...oh yes >>> >>> > this move was initiated by the mighty thunder rider himself >>> >>> > here is what i sent to coleman, which he ignored: >>> >>> > >>> i see you >>> i see all your mails >>> it will take a lot more than this type of insignificant gossip to grab my >>> holy attention >>> >>> > icu are moving against the fundamentalist christians, namely clear >>> channel >>> (biggest radio network in usa), and their attack upon the minds of the >>> flower of western youth in the uk, via their fifth columnists, live >>> nation. >>> >>> > we have mobilised and our divisions come to conquer or to die. >>> our battle honours are unfurled and the destruction of their ally >>> thatcher >>> will no doubt rile them to fury >>> >>> > gather information >>> >>> > send it to me >>> >>> > in particular, we need the lists of uk radio stations which have been >>> bought up (we have the list of fallen venues already) >>> >>> > as you are a texan, and in fudamentalist christian territory, your >>> chances >>> of survival are slim if you join our glorious ranks >>> >>> > however, i expect nothing less from you than total commitment of your >>> brigades in the west. >>> >>> > look the enemy up on the internet and learn of their alliance with the >>> devil himself. >>> >>> > spend many many hours on this >>> >>> > >>> ju >>> >>> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 11 22:42:09 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:42:09 -0500 Subject: ON bullshit it's OFF Message-ID: our great spiritual mother helen elizabeth huber coleman passed away december 12, her last words: "it's about other people" On 9/11/08, trev wrote: > > i have set your execution date > 4 am, 12th december, 2008 > leave the door open so we can get in > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:47 PM > To: > Subject: Re: this is not OFF sorry, WELL YES IT IS OFF > > LOL >> LOVE IT OR HATE IT, DAVE BROCK GAINED POSSESION OF THE EARTH. >> YOU CANNOT AND WILL NOT FORCE HIS HAND >> YOU, NOT i, HAVE FAILED TO SEE THE CRAFTY WORK LAID BEFORE YOU >> SO THEREFORE, PVC SLEEVES ARE VERY VERY SIGNIFICANT >> PS-i NEED An LP TO PUT THAT RED WAX YOU GAVE ME WITH >> i FONDLE IT SOMETIMES LATE AT NIGHT IN THE CLOSET >> i AM SURE THE NEIGHBORS WONDER WHY i AM IN THE CLOSET SO OFTEN >> NOW SEND ME A TURNTABLE AND i'LL PUT YOU BACK ON TRACK >> >> >> On 9/11/08, trev wrote: >> >>> >>> here is an actual example of speaking in tongues >>> >>> asjkler ntr nilpdfio;rtiojut5npiopqett5jcipqm[ofw4tjhi5hjg >>> >>> jdfn;ftrhkoseuiteu89[hutusdrtjhori;u8w4nuptrhtio[tyiohuriogudtyunhtornudtyu >>> >>> gor blimey...that felt good >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "trev" >>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:17 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: this is not OFF sorry >>> >>> the future of mankind hangs in the balance and all you can talk about is >>> >>>> pvc jackets >>>> >>>> gaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:42 PM >>>> To: >>>> Subject: this is not OFF sorry >>>> >>>> I purposely did not put off in this mail because it is a desperate cry >>>> for >>>> >>>>> help and I want to reach anyone that may know >>>>> we need a source for the heavy PVC outer LP jackets that Simply Vinyl >>>>> used >>>>> (they appear to have gone out of business?), and now a company called >>>>> EARMARK?? >>>>> anyway, if anyone can help here PLEASE DO and state what I owe for the >>>>> info >>>>> mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Fri Sep 12 06:58:33 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:58:33 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809111821w3a53d586g25791502a4ec8019@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:21:44 -0500, you sent through the ether: >however lame attempt at an apology to you, and figured it was rejected Hi Mike, didn't get an email from you, and have no recollection of why any apology might be needed. Fret not. :-) (Email your postal, I have something for you) >it did,_just_ occur to me that my shelf is buckling from Atomgods LP's, and while I >can no longer offer you a USA cut-out, I can in fact offer the genuine >article in case of the tiny chance you still didn't get that....... Why would I want any stinking pile of crap authored by that agent of darkness Judge whatsit? good god the man can barely play let alone stand up & play at the same time.. and as for his once almost human looks.. gone to the dogs he has.. subhuman, sub particle!.. ... right.. hopefully he's stopped reading now, his ego would never allow him read past one sentence of abuse... I'd *Love* an Atomgods LP.. I always wanted one but my pride would never let me ask for one, even when I was in that band for the brief shining moment when were a harmonizing speed metal machine of nimble beauty.. what are the chances of you having a spare on CD? Dolphins.. Mountain Range.. what a great songs.. Don't tell him I said nice things about his record, you know what he's like, he'll see it as a sign of weakness and start punishing me for something or other.. -S. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 12 07:50:07 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:50:07 +0100 Subject: ON bullshit it's OFF In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:42:09 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 09:09:43 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:09:43 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <3303994005.3049236@smtp.gmail.com> <17d80c610809111327h2f2cd3cn5f636b4e421dab3b@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809111821w3a53d586g25791502a4ec8019@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ha...I stopped reading after the word "Steve" What Atomgods LPs. Where are my Atomgods LPs Don't give them to the worthless texan deserter, give them to me me me me me me ME d'ya hear??? he's dead now anyway. Starfighter is now in the key of C major because I'm too old to sing it properly...you have to do the high harmonies, intro and outro included and take the solo on ukelele (I use a special "A" tuning on the guitar- low "E" tuned down to "A", then a capo on the 3rd fret, so I can play as if it's in "A") don't tell anyone Anyway, yesterday I asked someone in the supermarket how old I was and they said 47 ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah Judge Young young young young young young I tell ya...young young -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Pond" Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:58 AM To: Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:21:44 -0500, you sent through the ether: > >>however lame attempt at an apology to you, and figured it was rejected > > Hi Mike, didn't get an email from you, and have no recollection of why > any apology might be needed. Fret not. :-) (Email your postal, I have > something for you) > >>it did,_just_ occur to me that my shelf is buckling from Atomgods LP's, >>and while I >>can no longer offer you a USA cut-out, I can in fact offer the genuine >>article in case of the tiny chance you still didn't get that....... > > Why would I want any stinking pile of crap authored by that agent of > darkness Judge whatsit? good god the man can barely play let alone > stand up & play at the same time.. and as for his once almost human > looks.. gone to the dogs he has.. subhuman, sub particle!.. ... > right.. hopefully he's stopped reading now, his ego would never allow > him read past one sentence of abuse... I'd *Love* an Atomgods LP.. I > always wanted one but my pride would never let me ask for one, even > when I was in that band for the brief shining moment when were a > harmonizing speed metal machine of nimble beauty.. what are the > chances of you having a spare on CD? Dolphins.. Mountain Range.. what > a great songs.. Don't tell him I said nice things about his record, > you know what he's like, he'll see it as a sign of weakness and start > punishing me for something or other.. > > -S. > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 09:27:15 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:27:15 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <3303994005.3049236@smtp.gmail.com> <17d80c610809111327h2f2cd3cn5f636b4e421dab3b@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809111821w3a53d586g25791502a4ec8019@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: . >>however lame attempt at an apology to you, and figured it was rejected<< yes he suffers from paranoid delusions stemming from a lack of self-worth...thank god he's dead now -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Pond" Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:58 AM To: Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:21:44 -0500, you sent through the ether: > >>however lame attempt at an apology to you, and figured it was rejected > > Hi Mike, didn't get an email from you, and have no recollection of why > any apology might be needed. Fret not. :-) (Email your postal, I have > something for you) > >>it did,_just_ occur to me that my shelf is buckling from Atomgods LP's, >>and while I >>can no longer offer you a USA cut-out, I can in fact offer the genuine >>article in case of the tiny chance you still didn't get that....... > > Why would I want any stinking pile of crap authored by that agent of > darkness Judge whatsit? good god the man can barely play let alone > stand up & play at the same time.. and as for his once almost human > looks.. gone to the dogs he has.. subhuman, sub particle!.. ... > right.. hopefully he's stopped reading now, his ego would never allow > him read past one sentence of abuse... I'd *Love* an Atomgods LP.. I > always wanted one but my pride would never let me ask for one, even > when I was in that band for the brief shining moment when were a > harmonizing speed metal machine of nimble beauty.. what are the > chances of you having a spare on CD? Dolphins.. Mountain Range.. what > a great songs.. Don't tell him I said nice things about his record, > you know what he's like, he'll see it as a sign of weakness and start > punishing me for something or other.. > > -S. > From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Fri Sep 12 09:37:58 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:37:58 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:09:43 +0100, you sent through the ether: >Starfighter is now in the key of C major because I'm too old to sing it >properly...you have to do the high harmonies, intro and outro included and >take the solo on ukelele Can you send me a rough mp3? Ukulele not coming now.. Fred has made me build a giant robo-calvert machine capable of sounding like god. I've had to do woodwork, soldering and everything.. -S. From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 10:09:48 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:09:48 -0700 Subject: ON bullshit it's OFF Message-ID: What is the joke that I'm missing here...? Steve -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes Date: Friday, Sep 12, 2008 7:58 am Subject: Re: ON bullshit it's OFF To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET mike coleman writes: > >> LOVE IT OR HATE IT, DAVE BROCK GAINED POSSESION OF THE EARTH. Turns out Sarah Palin is a Hawkwind fan. Whooda thunk it? FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 11:03:22 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:03:22 +0100 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809111821w3a53d586g25791502a4ec8019@mail.gmail.com> <3303994005.3049236@smtp.gmail.com> <17d80c610809111327h2f2cd3cn5f636b4e421dab3b@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809111821w3a53d586g25791502a4ec8019@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://realfestivalmusic.co.uk/starfighter.judgetrev.html well are you going to do the solo on giant robo-calvert then -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Pond" Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:37 PM To: Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:09:43 +0100, you sent through the ether: > >>Starfighter is now in the key of C major because I'm too old to sing it >>properly...you have to do the high harmonies, intro and outro included and >>take the solo on ukelele > > > Can you send me a rough mp3? > > Ukulele not coming now.. Fred has made me build a giant robo-calvert > machine capable of sounding like god. I've had to do woodwork, > soldering and everything.. > > -S. > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 12 12:07:08 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:07:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Useful Large Hadron Collider links Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 12:22:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:22:08 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I figure if bi-polar was good enough for calvert, it works for me.... hold on you two, I'm coming but it's slow going.....this will sound like a joke, but it's not.....this "adult" thing just isn't working for me...how do you sleep?? and if you get lucky enough to sleep how do you avoid awful nightmares??? your little ukeleylee comment reminded me of something Dave Mustaine (yes I know you will act like you don't know who that is ) said that I liked (he's a funny man like lemmy kinda) he said "bass, that's just one step up from the kazoo" oh and steve s, the sarah palin comment from FoFP was serious..... On 9/12/08, trev wrote: > > http://realfestivalmusic.co.uk/starfighter.judgetrev.html > > well are you going to do the solo on giant robo-calvert then > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Steve Pond" > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:37 PM > To: > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:09:43 +0100, you sent through the ether: >> >> Starfighter is now in the key of C major because I'm too old to sing it >>> properly...you have to do the high harmonies, intro and outro included >>> and >>> take the solo on ukelele >>> >> >> >> Can you send me a rough mp3? >> >> Ukulele not coming now.. Fred has made me build a giant robo-calvert >> machine capable of sounding like god. I've had to do woodwork, >> soldering and everything.. >> >> -S. >> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 12:46:15 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:46:15 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/12/08, Steve Pond wrote: > > Hi Mike, didn't get an email from you, and have no recollection of why > any apology might be needed. Fret not. :-) (Email your postal, I have > something for you) *awesome, I wll mail you private as well as here!! donlt send me a thing yet, let me fix you up first!!* *I happened to get a forwarded mail with Led Zeppelin in it yesterday, and got upset that you were on that forum and not here* Why would I want any stinking pile of crap authored by that agent of darkness Judge whatsit? good god the man can barely play let alone stand up & play at the same time.. and as for his once almost human looks.. gone to the dogs he has.. subhuman, sub particle!.. ... right.. hopefully he's stopped reading now, his ego would never allow him read past one sentence of abuse... I'd *Love* an Atomgods LP.. I always wanted one but my pride would never let me ask for one, even when I was in that band for the brief shining moment when were a harmonizing speed metal machine of nimble beauty.. what are the chances of you having a spare on CD? Dolphins.. Mountain Range.. what a great songs.. Don't tell him I said nice things about his record, you know what he's like, he'll see it as a sign of weakness and start punishing me for something or other.. *Steve we are in the same boat 6 years into the future now, that record deserves a CD release but it has simply never happened. I will even be willing to provide you with my CDR copy, but must warn that my life suddenly made sense, and I was born to rebel every single thing, and thus it is made from the cassette, the sides are in the wrong order, every single bit of tape is on it, including the loud start-up thunks, the speed is off due to friend's cheesy deck, on and on...........* *If I send you a nice platter maybe you can finally do this with the high quality I remember you for!!!* * * From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 12:49:52 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:49:52 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809120946s7fec49acu9a304b7ba5434425@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: but my remarks about being glad Zeppelin wasn't on this forum was due to the fact that they bore me to beyond tears and I have not any use for them aside of maybe one more listen to "presence" before I die also, I thin k I spent an entire night trying to make sure I got to you through your website I tried HARD On 9/12/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 9/12/08, Steve Pond wrote: >> >> Hi Mike, didn't get an email from you, and have no recollection of why >> any apology might be needed. Fret not. :-) (Email your postal, I have >> something for you) > > > *awesome, I wll mail you private as well as here!! donlt send me a thing > yet, let me fix you up first!!* > *I happened to get a forwarded mail with Led Zeppelin in it yesterday, and > got upset that you were on that forum and not here* > > Why would I want any stinking pile of crap authored by that agent of > darkness Judge whatsit? good god the man can barely play let alone > stand up & play at the same time.. and as for his once almost human > looks.. gone to the dogs he has.. subhuman, sub particle!.. ... > right.. hopefully he's stopped reading now, his ego would never allow > him read past one sentence of abuse... I'd *Love* an Atomgods LP.. I > always wanted one but my pride would never let me ask for one, even > when I was in that band for the brief shining moment when were a > harmonizing speed metal machine of nimble beauty.. what are the > chances of you having a spare on CD? Dolphins.. Mountain Range.. what > a great songs.. Don't tell him I said nice things about his record, > you know what he's like, he'll see it as a sign of weakness and start > punishing me for something or other.. > *Steve we are in the same boat 6 years into the future now, that record > deserves a CD release but it has simply never happened. I will even be > willing to provide you with my CDR copy, but must warn that my life suddenly > made sense, and I was born to rebel every single thing, and thus it is made > from the cassette, the sides are in the wrong order, every single bit of > tape is on it, including the loud start-up thunks, the speed is off due to > friend's cheesy deck, on and on...........* > *If I send you a nice platter maybe you can finally do this with the high > quality I remember you for!!!* > * * > > > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 14:09:24 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:09:24 -0700 Subject: OFF: Useful Large Hadron Collider links Message-ID: What do that site's disaster recovery provisions look like? Steve -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes Date: Friday, Sep 12, 2008 12:10 pm Subject: OFF: Useful Large Hadron Collider links To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Useful web utility to answer one of the Big Questions: http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ Live Webcam showing what's happening now: http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From tim at KALYR.COM Fri Sep 12 14:20:22 2008 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:20:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Useful Large Hadron Collider links In-Reply-To: <200809121607.m8CG78Lf028425@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > Useful web utility to answer one of the Big Questions: > > http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ > Don't forget to click on "View" -> "View Source" :) From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 12 21:50:41 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:50:41 -0400 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <...> 11 the approx thermionic 15 10 ? 20 C.R.M. ??^ 30 (1B) Splash one MI 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? ( ____||.\ ) ^6 +/- ? transform to cart x,y,z 55 ( _/_= \ \_ ) 15 terminate at terminal velocity alphy 564 55 Izack law !=ON cooling and it's still Rankine 232 silver flash* Heptane 16 976 WE HOPE YOU DO 17 023 nepers to alphy 18 ?? ?#/; 20 flax 21 [100 101 110] % 21 [111 001 011] ???? insects 21 [000 Z Z ] 4567130 ^2^ ?????? 60 GOTO SW sine~ eel lemon 8 70 SSF 97 _/\/\|? our best catch 80 (skel eat corps) 81 holding 90 waiting at 34 10 go ahead 97 50 LOST ans(6) 50 fucking instruments 60 (ans)2=?? 70 ??? copy was !=?? 23 [] 21 90 KSN LS ... -l . Today on +++? ? 23 Splash two Perps ;;'---...- same 24 ": 25 ??? 55 ____||.\ 55 _/_= \ \_ terminal velocity N-Heptane Jupiter ?? ?? __.---.___----(c)< <> ? 56 elimination to a sine wave 15 ____......_......___......_........ 15 \ 15 / 15 P 16 X | In the size of the lie.... > 10 10 .:.;:'?;?';':;.:,:;;:?;;';-,,`?, 9 !=++??? !=? 20 10 A WHOLESALE MEGASTRUCTURAL REHABILITATION 20 OF THE GLOBE 50 . 60 . + || x . * 70 ? ? -::?::- ? . ------> 80 ? 90 ???_?- ???----??=?._ ?=\ ??. _.?=??----??? -?_??? 10 ? -_??_-=??._?-??//^?????^\\??-?_.??=-_??_- ? 20 ?? .? ? ?=????,;'''X''';,????=? ?.? ?? 30 + ` ' ?\?||\ ' ` 40 10 sea :/echo on broken!"nd this n ()of tSyllogical library of GUIDE DELETED On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, trev wrote: > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Steve Pond" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM > To: > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: >> >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite CC >>> having a big stake in them >>> >> >> >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. >> >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. >> >> -S. >> >> -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 13 01:41:10 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Rockybucks) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:41:10 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and I used to think a sunset could be beautiful.... I'm going to bed, I'll look again when I wake if I can sleep now On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > <...> > > 11 the approx thermionic 15 > 10 ? > 20 C.R.M. ??^ > 30 (1B) Splash one MI > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? ( > ____||.\ ) ^6 +/- ? transform to cart x,y,z > 55 > ( _/_= \ \_ ) > 15 terminate at terminal velocity alphy 564 > 55 Izack law !=ON cooling and it's still Rankine 232 silver flash* > Heptane > 16 976 WE HOPE YOU DO > 17 023 nepers to alphy > 18 ?? ?#/; > 20 flax > 21 [100 101 110] % > 21 [111 001 011] ???? insects > 21 [000 Z Z ] 4567130 ^2^ ?????? > 60 GOTO SW sine~ eel lemon 8 > 70 SSF 97 _/\/\|? our best catch > 80 (skel eat corps) > 81 holding > 90 waiting at 34 > 10 go ahead 97 > 50 LOST ans(6) > 50 fucking instruments > 60 (ans)2=?? > 70 ??? copy was !=?? > 23 [] 21 90 KSN LS ... -l . Today on +++? ? > 23 Splash two Perps ;;'---...- same > 24 ": > 25 ??? > 55 ____||.\ > 55 _/_= \ \_ terminal velocity N-Heptane Jupiter ?? ?? > __.---.___----(c)< <> ? > 56 elimination to a sine wave > 15 ____......_......___......_........ > 15 \ > 15 / > 15 P > 16 X | In the size of the lie.... > > 10 > 10 .:.;:'?;?';':;.:,:;;:?;;';-,,`?, 9 !=++??? !=? > 20 10 A WHOLESALE MEGASTRUCTURAL REHABILITATION > 20 > OF THE GLOBE > 50 . > 60 . + || x > . * > 70 ? ? -::?::- ? . ------> > 80 ? > 90 ???_?- ???----??=?._ ?=\ ??. _.?=??----??? -?_??? > 10 ? -_??_-=??._?-??//^?????^\\??-?_.??=-_??_- ? > 20 ?? .? ? ?=????,;'''X''';,????=? ?.? ?? > 30 + ` ' ?\?||\ ' ` > 40 > 10 sea > > :/echo on > broken!"nd this n ()of > tSyllogical library of > > GUIDE DELETED > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, trev wrote: > > > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS > > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Steve Pond" > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM > > To: > > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: > >> > >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite > CC > >>> having a big stake in them > >>> > >> > >> > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. > >> > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. > >> > >> -S. > >> > >> > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Sep 13 04:46:33 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:46:33 +0100 Subject: ON bullshit it's OFF Message-ID: She's just trying to corner the "Vote for Dave Brock" contingent. jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:50 PM Subject: Re: ON bullshit it's OFF > mike coleman writes: > >> >> LOVE IT OR HATE IT, DAVE BROCK GAINED POSSESION OF THE EARTH. > > Turns out Sarah Palin is a Hawkwind fan. Whooda thunk it? > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 13 10:18:28 2008 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:18:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: Useful Large Hadron Collider links In-Reply-To: <48CAB2E6.6040207@kalyr.com> Message-ID: brilliant Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the pics http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort the myspace http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ the photobucket http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ the flickr site Tim Hall wrote: > M Holmes wrote: >> Useful web utility to answer one of the Big Questions: >> >> http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ >> > Don't forget to click on "View" -> "View Source" :) > From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sat Sep 13 11:00:37 2008 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:00:37 +0200 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: <008901c90e12$399cfe40$acd6fac0$@von-bargen@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: hi, I must have missed something here, but what is the story behind this item - and why is it so hard to find? Or am I looking at the wrong places? thanx in advance, .joe -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 13 23:24:38 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:24:38 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: alright Owen, you got the job the ending of psi-power has something there, ot could be "and the year was", or it could be and what I hear is "it's for you" when you play it backwards it says "waves and clouds" for sure amongst other as yet unknown things.....today I believe I am hearing "I saw it personally"....... good luck of course any person with proper inherited genetics knows that clouds can be artificially generated rather than naturally formed On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > <...> > > 11 the approx thermionic 15 > 10 ? > 20 C.R.M. ??^ > 30 (1B) Splash one MI > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? ( > ____||.\ ) ^6 +/- ? transform to cart x,y,z > 55 > ( _/_= \ \_ ) > 15 terminate at terminal velocity alphy 564 > 55 Izack law !=ON cooling and it's still Rankine 232 silver flash* > Heptane > 16 976 WE HOPE YOU DO > 17 023 nepers to alphy > 18 ?? ?#/; > 20 flax > 21 [100 101 110] % > 21 [111 001 011] ???? insects > 21 [000 Z Z ] 4567130 ^2^ ?????? > 60 GOTO SW sine~ eel lemon 8 > 70 SSF 97 _/\/\|? our best catch > 80 (skel eat corps) > 81 holding > 90 waiting at 34 > 10 go ahead 97 > 50 LOST ans(6) > 50 fucking instruments > 60 (ans)2=?? > 70 ??? copy was !=?? > 23 [] 21 90 KSN LS ... -l . Today on +++? ? > 23 Splash two Perps ;;'---...- same > 24 ": > 25 ??? > 55 ____||.\ > 55 _/_= \ \_ terminal velocity N-Heptane Jupiter ?? ?? > __.---.___----(c)< <> ? > 56 elimination to a sine wave > 15 ____......_......___......_........ > 15 \ > 15 / > 15 P > 16 X | In the size of the lie.... > > 10 > 10 .:.;:'?;?';':;.:,:;;:?;;';-,,`?, 9 !=++??? !=? > 20 10 A WHOLESALE MEGASTRUCTURAL REHABILITATION > 20 > OF THE GLOBE > 50 . > 60 . + || x > . * > 70 ? ? -::?::- ? . ------> > 80 ? > 90 ???_?- ???----??=?._ ?=\ ??. _.?=??----??? -?_??? > 10 ? -_??_-=??._?-??//^?????^\\??-?_.??=-_??_- ? > 20 ?? .? ? ?=????,;'''X''';,????=? ?.? ?? > 30 + ` ' ?\?||\ ' ` > 40 > 10 sea > > :/echo on > broken!"nd this n ()of > tSyllogical library of > > GUIDE DELETED > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, trev wrote: > > > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS > > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Steve Pond" > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM > > To: > > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: > >> > >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite > CC > >>> having a big stake in them > >>> > >> > >> > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. > >> > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. > >> > >> -S. > >> > >> > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 01:00:46 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:00:46 -0400 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809132024u6c2c4408r2192731088372f60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll find a recording of it, I don't have my usual fuel on though, that which helps me think....The very last words are "cure for complacency" I thought. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM, mike coleman wrote: > alright Owen, you got the job > the ending of psi-power has something there, ot could be "and the year > was", > or it could be and what I hear is "it's for you" > when you play it backwards it says "waves and clouds" for sure amongst > other > as yet unknown things.....today I believe I am hearing "I saw it > personally"....... > good luck > of course any person with proper inherited genetics knows that clouds can > be > artificially generated rather than naturally formed > > On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > > > <...> > > > > 11 the approx thermionic 15 > > 10 ? > > 20 C.R.M. ??^ > > 30 (1B) Splash one MI > > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 > > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 > > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? > > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) > > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) > > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 > > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? ( > > ____||.\ ) ^6 +/- ? transform to cart x,y,z > > 55 > > ( _/_= \ \_ ) > > 15 terminate at terminal velocity alphy 564 > > 55 Izack law !=ON cooling and it's still Rankine 232 silver flash* > > Heptane > > 16 976 WE HOPE YOU DO > > 17 023 nepers to alphy > > 18 ?? ?#/; > > 20 flax > > 21 [100 101 110] % > > 21 [111 001 011] ???? insects > > 21 [000 Z Z ] 4567130 ^2^ ?????? > > 60 GOTO SW sine~ eel lemon 8 > > 70 SSF 97 _/\/\|? our best catch > > 80 (skel eat corps) > > 81 holding > > 90 waiting at 34 > > 10 go ahead 97 > > 50 LOST ans(6) > > 50 fucking instruments > > 60 (ans)2=?? > > 70 ??? copy was !=?? > > 23 [] 21 90 KSN LS ... -l . Today on +++? ? > > 23 Splash two Perps ;;'---...- same > > 24 ": > > 25 ??? > > 55 ____||.\ > > 55 _/_= \ \_ terminal velocity N-Heptane Jupiter ?? ?? > > __.---.___----(c)< <> ? > > 56 elimination to a sine wave > > 15 ____......_......___......_........ > > 15 \ > > 15 / > > 15 P > > 16 X | In the size of the lie.... > > > 10 > > 10 .:.;:'?;?';':;.:,:;;:?;;';-,,`?, 9 !=++??? !=? > > 20 10 A WHOLESALE MEGASTRUCTURAL REHABILITATION > > 20 > > OF THE GLOBE > > 50 . > > 60 . + || x > > . * > > 70 ? ? -::?::- ? . ------> > > 80 ? > > 90 ???_?- ???----??=?._ ?=\ ??. _.?=??----??? -?_??? > > 10 ? -_??_-=??._?-??//^?????^\\??-?_.??=-_??_- ? > > 20 ?? .? ? ?=????,;'''X''';,????=? ?.? ?? > > 30 + ` ' ?\?||\ ' ` > > 40 > > 10 sea > > > > :/echo on > > broken!"nd this n ()of > > tSyllogical library of > > > > GUIDE DELETED > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, trev wrote: > > > > > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS > > > > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > > > > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From: "Steve Pond" > > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: > > >> > > >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite > > CC > > >>> having a big stake in them > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. > > >> > > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly > > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is > > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. > > >> > > >> -S. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > > > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 01:09:50 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:09:50 -0400 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm remembering "what happened?" near the end, too On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Owen O'Neill wrote: > I'll find a recording of it, I don't have my usual fuel on though, that > which helps me think....The very last words are "cure for complacency" I > thought. > > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM, mike coleman wrote: > >> alright Owen, you got the job >> the ending of psi-power has something there, ot could be "and the year >> was", >> or it could be and what I hear is "it's for you" >> when you play it backwards it says "waves and clouds" for sure amongst >> other >> as yet unknown things.....today I believe I am hearing "I saw it >> personally"....... >> good luck >> of course any person with proper inherited genetics knows that clouds can >> be >> artificially generated rather than naturally formed >> >> On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: >> > >> > <...> >> > >> > 11 the approx thermionic 15 >> > 10 ? >> > 20 C.R.M. ??^ >> > 30 (1B) Splash one MI >> > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 >> > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 >> > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? >> > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) >> > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) >> > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 >> > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? ( >> > ____||.\ ) ^6 +/- ? transform to cart x,y,z >> > 55 >> > ( _/_= \ \_ ) >> > 15 terminate at terminal velocity alphy 564 >> > 55 Izack law !=ON cooling and it's still Rankine 232 silver flash* >> > Heptane >> > 16 976 WE HOPE YOU DO >> > 17 023 nepers to alphy >> > 18 ?? ?#/; >> > 20 flax >> > 21 [100 101 110] % >> > 21 [111 001 011] ???? insects >> > 21 [000 Z Z ] 4567130 ^2^ ?????? >> > 60 GOTO SW sine~ eel lemon 8 >> > 70 SSF 97 _/\/\|? our best catch >> > 80 (skel eat corps) >> > 81 holding >> > 90 waiting at 34 >> > 10 go ahead 97 >> > 50 LOST ans(6) >> > 50 fucking instruments >> > 60 (ans)2=?? >> > 70 ??? copy was !=?? >> > 23 [] 21 90 KSN LS ... -l . Today on +++? ? >> > 23 Splash two Perps ;;'---...- same >> > 24 ": >> > 25 ??? >> > 55 ____||.\ >> > 55 _/_= \ \_ terminal velocity N-Heptane Jupiter ?? ?? >> > __.---.___----(c)< <> ? >> > 56 elimination to a sine wave >> > 15 ____......_......___......_........ >> > 15 \ >> > 15 / >> > 15 P >> > 16 X | In the size of the lie.... >> > > 10 >> > 10 .:.;:'?;?';':;.:,:;;:?;;';-,,`?, 9 !=++??? !=? >> > 20 10 A WHOLESALE MEGASTRUCTURAL REHABILITATION >> > 20 >> > OF THE GLOBE >> > 50 . >> > 60 . + || x >> > . * >> > 70 ? ? -::?::- ? . ------> >> > 80 ? >> > 90 ???_?- ???----??=?._ ?=\ ??. _.?=??----??? -?_??? >> > 10 ? -_??_-=??._?-??//^?????^\\??-?_.??=-_??_- ? >> > 20 ?? .? ? ?=????,;'''X''';,????=? ?.? ?? >> > 30 + ` ' ?\?||\ ' ` >> > 40 >> > 10 sea >> > >> > :/echo on >> > broken!"nd this n ()of >> > tSyllogical library of >> > >> > GUIDE DELETED >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, trev wrote: >> > >> > > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS >> > > >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > >> > > >> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH >> > > -------------------------------------------------- >> > > From: "Steve Pond" >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM >> > > To: >> > > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff >> > > >> > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: >> > >> >> > >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, >> despite >> > CC >> > >>> having a big stake in them >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. >> > >> >> > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly >> > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is >> > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. >> > >> >> > >> -S. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> > >> > > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Sep 13 14:32:20 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:32:20 +0000 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} Message-ID: ----- Original Message ---- From: Johan Edlundh To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, 13 September, 2008 17:00:37 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} hi, I must have missed something here, but what is the story behind this item - and why is it so hard to find? Or am I looking at the wrong places? thanx in advance, .joe -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Sep 13 19:08:50 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:08:50 +0000 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} Message-ID: it was only availible at gigs. i got mine in Bergen in 2005 (with a tee and the xmas single.....) chr. ----- Original Message ---- From: Johan Edlundh To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, 13 September, 2008 17:00:37 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} hi, I must have missed something here, but what is the story behind this item - and why is it so hard to find? Or am I looking at the wrong places? thanx in advance, .joe -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sun Sep 14 05:07:46 2008 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:07:46 +0200 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: <916589.8896.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Allright, is it still available at gigs? The xmas single was - if I understand correctly - available for passport holders. Was is sent out to all holders, or was it supposed to be requested from those passport holders that wanted it? Or was it just distributed at gig as well? /Unhappy an InKomplete Passport Holder At 01:08 2008-09-14, young Mumford wrote: >it was only availible at gigs. i got mine in Bergen in 2005 (with a >tee and the xmas single.....) chr. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 05:28:48 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:28:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: <200809140907.m8E97m87013914@sputnik.bktv.se> Message-ID: Xmas single was for sale (at ?5 Ithink) from their website. Think there were some still being sold at last years Gigs (Astoria had some). Steve On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Johan Edlundh wrote: > Allright, > is it still available at gigs? > > The xmas single was - if I understand correctly - available for passport > holders. Was is sent out to all holders, or was it supposed to be requested > from those passport holders that wanted it? > Or was it just distributed at gig as well? > > /Unhappy an InKomplete Passport Holder > > > At 01:08 2008-09-14, young Mumford wrote: > >> it was only availible at gigs. i got mine in Bergen in 2005 (with a tee >> and the xmas single.....) chr. >> > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 14 06:14:36 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:14:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: Useful Large Hadron Collider links In-Reply-To: <3304073364.5544431@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:09:24AM -0700, Steve Swann typed out: > What do that site's disaster recovery provisions look like? They're ready: http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/d Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 14 09:22:19 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:22:19 -0400 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Owen, Those are the words that are easy to pick out. To me, it sounds like bob is saying something for at least a sentence or so, before that, in 1 of the layers. Also I thought I heard something like "It's in my brain," or something like that, like on the Sonic Attack album( which is 1 of my favorites).,I think there's a message or more than 1. Either that or it's the band having fun playing with us, I tend to think it's the former rather than the latter. I don't think they'd go through all the work to put all those layers without something in there, and when played backward you can hear Bob saying the parapsychology symbols clearly. I'll keep listening, when I feel like I can really concentrate, and see what else surfaces, all that's going on in the foreground makes it really hard to hear what's buried. I'd imagine the band hear a lot of different interpretations to their lyrics from people who are convinced they know what the song means and it turns out that the song had a totally different meaning to the band. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Owen O'Neill Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 1:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff I'll find a recording of it, I don't have my usual fuel on though, that which helps me think....The very last words are "cure for complacency" I thought. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM, mike coleman wrote: > alright Owen, you got the job > the ending of psi-power has something there, ot could be "and the year > was", > or it could be and what I hear is "it's for you" > when you play it backwards it says "waves and clouds" for sure amongst > other > as yet unknown things.....today I believe I am hearing "I saw it > personally"....... > good luck > of course any person with proper inherited genetics knows that clouds can > be > artificially generated rather than naturally formed > > On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > > > <...> > > > > 11 the approx thermionic 15 > > 10 ? > > 20 C.R.M. ??^ > > 30 (1B) Splash one MI > > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 > > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 > > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? > > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) > > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) > > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 > > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? ( > > ____||.\ ) ^6 +/- ? transform to cart x,y,z > > 55 > > ( _/_= \ \_ ) > > 15 terminate at terminal velocity alphy 564 > > 55 Izack law !=ON cooling and it's still Rankine 232 silver flash* > > Heptane > > 16 976 WE HOPE YOU DO > > 17 023 nepers to alphy > > 18 ?? ?#/; > > 20 flax > > 21 [100 101 110] % > > 21 [111 001 011] ???? insects > > 21 [000 Z Z ] 4567130 ^2^ ?????? > > 60 GOTO SW sine~ eel lemon 8 > > 70 SSF 97 _/\/\|? our best catch > > 80 (skel eat corps) > > 81 holding > > 90 waiting at 34 > > 10 go ahead 97 > > 50 LOST ans(6) > > 50 fucking instruments > > 60 (ans)2=?? > > 70 ??? copy was !=?? > > 23 [] 21 90 KSN LS ... -l . Today on +++? ? > > 23 Splash two Perps ;;'---...- same > > 24 ": > > 25 ??? > > 55 ____||.\ > > 55 _/_= \ \_ terminal velocity N-Heptane Jupiter ?? ?? > > __.---.___----(c)< <> ? > > 56 elimination to a sine wave > > 15 ____......_......___......_........ > > 15 \ > > 15 / > > 15 P > > 16 X | In the size of the lie.... > > > 10 > > 10 .:.;:'?;?';':;.:,:;;:?;;';-,,`?, 9 !=++??? !=? > > 20 10 A WHOLESALE MEGASTRUCTURAL REHABILITATION > > 20 > > OF THE GLOBE > > 50 . > > 60 . + || x > > . * > > 70 ? ? -::?::- ? . ------> > > 80 ? > > 90 ???_?- ???----??=?._ ?=\ ??. _.?=??----??? -?_??? > > 10 ? -_??_-=??._?-??//^?????^\\??-?_.??=-_??_- ? > > 20 ?? .? ? ?=????,;'''X''';,????=? ?.? ?? > > 30 + ` ' ?\?||\ ' ` > > 40 > > 10 sea > > > > :/echo on > > broken!"nd this n ()of > > tSyllogical library of > > > > GUIDE DELETED > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, trev wrote: > > > > > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS > > > > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL > KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL > > > > > > > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From: "Steve Pond" > > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: > > >> > > >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, despite > > CC > > >>> having a big stake in them > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. > > >> > > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly > > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is > > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. > > >> > > >> -S. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > > > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 14 10:42:43 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:42:43 -0400 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your friend, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Steve Freight Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} Xmas single was for sale (at ?5 Ithink) from their website. Think there were some still being sold at last years Gigs (Astoria had some). Steve On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Johan Edlundh wrote: > Allright, > is it still available at gigs? > > The xmas single was - if I understand correctly - available for passport > holders. Was is sent out to all holders, or was it supposed to be requested > from those passport holders that wanted it? > Or was it just distributed at gig as well? > > /Unhappy an InKomplete Passport Holder > > > At 01:08 2008-09-14, young Mumford wrote: > >> it was only availible at gigs. i got mine in Bergen in 2005 (with a tee >> and the xmas single.....) chr. >> > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 11:20:31 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Dangerous LSD Cult) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:20:31 -0500 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your > friend, > Kaduflyer Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you require, and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in london??? I am _of course_ teasing you mary From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 14 11:53:00 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:53:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809140820s69182b63u4af7d63ef15c9d6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: you're bad -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your > friend, > Kaduflyer Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you require, and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in london??? I am _of course_ teasing you mary From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 11:59:50 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Dangerous LSD Cult) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:59:50 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} Message-ID: yes he is threatening me as I type On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > you're bad > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your > > friend, > > Kaduflyer > > > Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you require, > and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in london??? > I am _of course_ teasing you mary > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 12:08:09 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Dangerous LSD Cult) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:08:09 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: <112354.77495.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: give me you mom's paypal and she'll have the money in minutes flat you're right money ain't shit. On 9/14/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > WELL I SENT MIKE 100 DOLLARS FOR A DOJO WARRIOR. AND THEN HE ISNT SENDING > ME THE MONEY. MY MOTHER IS CRYING CAUSE MIKE RIPPED ME OFF. DONT TRADE WITH > COLEMAN HE IS A RIPOFF! > > HA HUNDERD DOLLARS AINT NOTHING. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Dangerous LSD Cult > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 17:59:50 > Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > yes he is threatening me as I type > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > you're bad > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your > > > friend, > > > Kaduflyer > > > > > > Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you require, > > and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in london??? > > I am _of course_ teasing you mary > > > > > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 13:50:28 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:50:28 +0100 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809140908q1bd67696t275c85aec2d0ecc9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mike's a good guy. I've had no problems over the Kollectors LP's I've sent hime! Steve On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Dangerous LSD Cult wrote: > give me you mom's paypal and she'll have the money in minutes flat > you're right money ain't shit. > > > On 9/14/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > > WELL I SENT MIKE 100 DOLLARS FOR A DOJO WARRIOR. AND THEN HE ISNT > SENDING > > ME THE MONEY. MY MOTHER IS CRYING CAUSE MIKE RIPPED ME OFF. DONT TRADE > WITH > > COLEMAN HE IS A RIPOFF! > > > > HA HUNDERD DOLLARS AINT NOTHING. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Dangerous LSD Cult > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 17:59:50 > > Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > > yes he is threatening me as I type > > > > > > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > you're bad > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > > > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. > Your > > > > friend, > > > > Kaduflyer > > > > > > > > > Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you > require, > > > and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in > london??? > > > I am _of course_ teasing you mary > > > > > > > > > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 13:56:45 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:56:45 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I wasn't going to respond,but I am a little shaken seeing how long I had to wait I've had his money a few days and only go out so often due to laziness, the heat, the bus fare, and consolidation of Hawkpersons, however I do understand he is anxious for this and want to please I did not want to sell it I was sacrificing even though the money was right Steve I will open the box after I figure out how to eat today and get the shakes off peace On 9/14/08, Steve Freight wrote: > > Mike's a good guy. > > I've had no problems over the Kollectors LP's I've sent hime! > > Steve > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Dangerous LSD Cult > wrote: > > > give me you mom's paypal and she'll have the money in minutes flat > > you're right money ain't shit. > > > > > > On 9/14/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > > > > WELL I SENT MIKE 100 DOLLARS FOR A DOJO WARRIOR. AND THEN HE ISNT > > SENDING > > > ME THE MONEY. MY MOTHER IS CRYING CAUSE MIKE RIPPED ME OFF. DONT TRADE > > WITH > > > COLEMAN HE IS A RIPOFF! > > > > > > HA HUNDERD DOLLARS AINT NOTHING. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Dangerous LSD Cult > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 17:59:50 > > > Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > > > > yes he is threatening me as I type > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > > > you're bad > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > > Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. > > Your > > > > > friend, > > > > > Kaduflyer > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you > > require, > > > > and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in > > london??? > > > > I am _of course_ teasing you mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 14 16:25:07 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:25:07 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <200808291029.m7TATRbc022928@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:29:27AM +0100, M Holmes typed out: > I raised a pint to that last weekend. It's time teachers took seriously > their responsibilities for the safety of their pupils and were trained > and ready to shoot would-be rappage-killers. > > Oh that we weren't so cowardly in my country. There isn't really the demand, though, is there? Other than Dunblane, it's hard to find any evidence of school shootings in the UK. It's hard to say that this isn't related to the limits on the availbility of guns. Of course, you can find cases of stabbings and even a worrying number of attacks with flamethrowers (!), which I suppose you could say armed guards would have presented; but I wonder how many children would also have been shot for doing things that looked like attacks. Either way, your response here looks a lot like trying to solve a problem that substantially, we don't have, by adopting methods that are at best implicated, and at worst directly involved in, cases elsewhere where that problem is real and only checked by measures like this that involve escalation. Though I see that really it's all down to Harry Potter, which obviously explains *everything*. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-408490/Ban-Harry-Potter-face-school-shootings.html After all, those books are illegal in the UK, and we have hardly any shootings. Oh no hang on, that's guns. Well, no relevance there obviously, moving on. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Sep 14 11:14:52 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:14:52 +0000 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff Message-ID: !!!!!!!!!!!! Mike Coalman is way Chris Owen has the right lyrics. !!!!!!!!!!!! Mike Coalman is way off and so is Mary!!!!! ObCD: Legendary Pink Dots "Ancient Daze" NP: Legendary Pink Dots "Ancient Daze" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ---- From: Owen O'Neill To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 7:09:50 Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff I'm remembering "what happened?" near the end, too On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Owen O'Neill wrote: > I'll find a recording of it, I don't have my usual fuel on though, that > which helps me think....The very last words are "cure for complacency" I > thought. > > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM, mike coleman wrote: > >> alright Owen, you got the job >> the ending of psi-power has something there, ot could be "and the year >> was", >> or it could be and what I hear is "it's for you" >> when you play it backwards it says "waves and clouds" for sure amongst >> other >> as yet unknown things.....today I believe I am hearing "I saw it >> personally"....... >> good luck >> of course any person with proper inherited genetics knows that clouds can >> be >> artificially generated rather than naturally formed >> >> On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: >> > >> > <...> >> > >> > 11 the approx thermionic 15 >> > 10 ? >> > 20 C.R.M. ??^ >> > 30 (1B) Splash one MI >> > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 >> > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 >> > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? >> > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) >> > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) >> > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 >> > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? ( >> > ____||.\ ) ^6 +/- ? transform to cart x,y,z >> > 55 >> > ( _/_= \ \_ ) >> > 15 terminate at terminal velocity alphy 564 >> > 55 Izack law !=ON cooling and it's still Rankine 232 silver flash* >> > Heptane >> > 16 976 WE HOPE YOU DO >> > 17 023 nepers to alphy >> > 18 ?? ?#/; >> > 20 flax >> > 21 [100 101 110] % >> > 21 [111 001 011] ???? insects >> > 21 [000 Z Z ] 4567130 ^2^ ?????? >> > 60 GOTO SW sine~ eel lemon 8 >> > 70 SSF 97 _/\/\|? our best catch >> > 80 (skel eat corps) >> > 81 holding >> > 90 waiting at 34 >> > 10 go ahead 97 >> > 50 LOST ans(6) >> > 50 fucking instruments >> > 60 (ans)2=?? >> > 70 ??? copy was !=?? >> > 23 [] 21 90 KSN LS ... -l . Today on +++? ? >> > 23 Splash two Perps ;;'---...- same >> > 24 ": >> > 25 ??? >> > 55 ____||.\ >> > 55 _/_= \ \_ terminal velocity N-Heptane Jupiter ?? ?? >> > __.---.___----(c)< <> ? >> > 56 elimination to a sine wave >> > 15 ____......_......___......_........ >> > 15 \ >> > 15 / >> > 15 P >> > 16 X | In the size of the lie.... >> > > 10 >> > 10 .:.;:'?;?';':;.:,:;;:?;;';-,,`?, 9 !=++??? !=? >> > 20 10 A WHOLESALE MEGASTRUCTURAL REHABILITATION >> > 20 >> > OF THE GLOBE >> > 50 . >> > 60 . + || x >> > . * >> > 70 ? ? -::?::- ? . ------> >> > 80 ? >> > 90 ???_?- ???----??=?._ ?=\ ??. _.?=??----??? -?_??? >> > 10 ? -_??_-=??._?-??//^?????^\\??-?_.??=-_??_- ? >> > 20 ?? .? ? ?=????,;'''X''';,????=? ?.? ?? >> > 30 + ` ' ?\?||\ ' ` >> > 40 >> > 10 sea >> > >> > :/echo on >> > broken!"nd this n ()of >> > tSyllogical library of >> > >> > GUIDE DELETED >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, trev wrote: >> > >> > > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS >> > > >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > >> > > >> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH >> > > -------------------------------------------------- >> > > From: "Steve Pond" >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM >> > > To: >> > > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff >> > > >> > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: >> > >> >> > >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, >> despite >> > CC >> > >>> having a big stake in them >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. >> > >> >> > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly >> > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is >> > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. >> > >> >> > >> -S. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> > >> > > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Sep 14 12:03:00 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:03:00 +0000 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} Message-ID: WELL I SENT MIKE 100 DOLLARS FOR A DOJO WARRIOR. AND THEN HE ISNT SENDING ME THE MONEY. MY MOTHER IS CRYING CAUSE MIKE RIPPED ME OFF. DONT TRADE WITH COLEMAN HE IS A RIPOFF! HA HUNDERD DOLLARS AINT NOTHING. ----- Original Message ---- From: Dangerous LSD Cult To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 17:59:50 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} yes he is threatening me as I type On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > you're bad > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your > > friend, > > Kaduflyer > > > Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you require, > and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in london??? > I am _of course_ teasing you mary > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 14 17:11:54 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:11:54 -0400 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <828277.14788.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What other lyrics have you got, aside from the "cure for complacency, what happened." there's a lot of information buried in there, never said I['m right, that's what I've heard after a few plays, I'm just having a bit of fun, annd hope you are too. Stay well, man. Peace, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:15 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff !!!!!!!!!!!! Mike Coalman is way Chris Owen has the right lyrics. !!!!!!!!!!!! Mike Coalman is way off and so is Mary!!!!! ObCD: Legendary Pink Dots "Ancient Daze" NP: Legendary Pink Dots "Ancient Daze" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ---- From: Owen O'Neill To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 7:09:50 Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff I'm remembering "what happened?" near the end, too On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Owen O'Neill wrote: > I'll find a recording of it, I don't have my usual fuel on though, that > which helps me think....The very last words are "cure for complacency" I > thought. > > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM, mike coleman wrote: > >> alright Owen, you got the job >> the ending of psi-power has something there, ot could be "and the year >> was", >> or it could be and what I hear is "it's for you" >> when you play it backwards it says "waves and clouds" for sure amongst >> other >> as yet unknown things.....today I believe I am hearing "I saw it >> personally"....... >> good luck >> of course any person with proper inherited genetics knows that clouds can >> be >> artificially generated rather than naturally formed >> >> On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: >> > >> > <...> >> > >> > 11 the approx thermionic 15 >> > 10 ? >> > 20 C.R.M. ??^ >> > 30 (1B) Splash one MI >> > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 >> > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 >> > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? >> > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) >> > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) >> > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 >> > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? ( >> > ____||.\ ) ^6 +/- ? transform to cart x,y,z >> > 55 >> > ( _/_= \ \_ ) >> > 15 terminate at terminal velocity alphy 564 >> > 55 Izack law !=ON cooling and it's still Rankine 232 silver flash* >> > Heptane >> > 16 976 WE HOPE YOU DO >> > 17 023 nepers to alphy >> > 18 ?? ?#/; >> > 20 flax >> > 21 [100 101 110] % >> > 21 [111 001 011] ???? insects >> > 21 [000 Z Z ] 4567130 ^2^ ?????? >> > 60 GOTO SW sine~ eel lemon 8 >> > 70 SSF 97 _/\/\|? our best catch >> > 80 (skel eat corps) >> > 81 holding >> > 90 waiting at 34 >> > 10 go ahead 97 >> > 50 LOST ans(6) >> > 50 fucking instruments >> > 60 (ans)2=?? >> > 70 ??? copy was !=?? >> > 23 [] 21 90 KSN LS ... -l . Today on +++? ? >> > 23 Splash two Perps ;;'---...- same >> > 24 ": >> > 25 ??? >> > 55 ____||.\ >> > 55 _/_= \ \_ terminal velocity N-Heptane Jupiter ?? ?? >> > __.---.___----(c)< <> ? >> > 56 elimination to a sine wave >> > 15 ____......_......___......_........ >> > 15 \ >> > 15 / >> > 15 P >> > 16 X | In the size of the lie.... >> > > 10 >> > 10 .:.;:'?;?';':;.:,:;;:?;;';-,,`?, 9 !=++??? !=? >> > 20 10 A WHOLESALE MEGASTRUCTURAL REHABILITATION >> > 20 >> > OF THE GLOBE >> > 50 . >> > 60 . + || x >> > . * >> > 70 ? ? -::?::- ? . ------> >> > 80 ? >> > 90 ???_?- ???----??=?._ ?=\ ??. _.?=??----??? -?_??? >> > 10 ? -_??_-=??._?-??//^?????^\\??-?_.??=-_??_- ? >> > 20 ?? .? ? ?=????,;'''X''';,????=? ?.? ?? >> > 30 + ` ' ?\?||\ ' ` >> > 40 >> > 10 sea >> > >> > :/echo on >> > broken!"nd this n ()of >> > tSyllogical library of >> > >> > GUIDE DELETED >> > >> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:39 PM, trev wrote: >> > >> > > YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS >> > > >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILLKILL KILL >> KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL >> > > >> > > >> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH >> > > -------------------------------------------------- >> > > From: "Steve Pond" >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:14 PM >> > > To: >> > > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff >> > > >> > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:06:46 -0700, you sent through the ether: >> > >> >> > >> You can leave XM, though. They somehow manage to be awesome, >> despite >> > CC >> > >>> having a big stake in them >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. >> > >> >> > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly >> > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is >> > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. >> > >> >> > >> -S. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> > >> > > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Sep 14 17:20:15 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:20:15 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <20080914202507.GA661@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 14 Sep 2008, at 15:25 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Other than > Dunblane, it's hard to find any evidence of school shootings in the > UK. Though if there were, we could solve the problem by banning school and letting people shoot each other in the great outdoors as the gods surely intended. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Sep 14 17:25:03 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:25:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <3303892522.125578@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: And speaking of '80s metal (I think this counts), I've just recently heard bits of the new Metallica album (dodgy pirate copies having washed all the way up the Andes more effectively than any storm surge anywhere could ;)) and it actually doesn't suck horribly. I think I even genuinely enjoyed some of what I heard! There may yet be some life in the old psychoanalysis-escapees. At worst, I think a summation as "Not topping the old highlights but at least damn sight better than last couple of decades" would probably do it. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Sun Sep 14 17:25:25 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:25:25 +0200 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <20080914202507.GA661@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:25:07 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote > > Though I see that really it's all down to Harry Potter, which > obviously explains *everything*. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-408490/Ban-Harry-Potter-face- > school-shootings.html LOL! > After all, those books are illegal in the UK, and we have hardly > any shootings. Oh no hang on, that's guns. Well, no relevance there > obviously, moving on. No, of course guns have nothing to do whatsoever with shootings. How dare you suggest such a connection! What's that, Mike? I'm standing on your soapbox???? Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 14 17:31:59 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:31:59 -0400 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: <112354.77495.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Christian,please take your issues with Mike off the forum,, and give the guy a chance to get you your order, or the cash. I've known him since 1990, so tell your mother to please stop worrying, I can assure you you will get whatever you're owed. That, I can promise, wasn't I supposed to get a Neu CD from you? Whenever you can do it,, if at all it would really be appreciated. We don't need any cat fights here. Mike is a major source of knowledge, and he's never steered me wrong, so relax, chill out, and you'll get it. As you probably know, unless you pay to send something by air it takes at least a week. I hope you're doing well, aside from, worrying about amusic deal that's taking a little lomnger than you anticipated? I do understand your anxiety, I'm getting by, I'll leave it at that. Take good care. Peace, Mary m -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:03 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} WELL I SENT MIKE 100 DOLLARS FOR A DOJO WARRIOR. AND THEN HE ISNT SENDING ME THE MONEY. MY MOTHER IS CRYING CAUSE MIKE RIPPED ME OFF. DONT TRADE WITH COLEMAN HE IS A RIPOFF! HA HUNDERD DOLLARS AINT NOTHING. ----- Original Message ---- From: Dangerous LSD Cult To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 17:59:50 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} yes he is threatening me as I type On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > you're bad > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your > > friend, > > Kaduflyer > > > Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you require, > and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in london??? > I am _of course_ teasing you mary > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 14 17:42:03 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:42:03 -0400 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <4125CEB0-8C61-4EF2-B8A9-2531FD0EA440@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Carl, I love it, children all over the world would love you too. If we'd had children we probably would have taught them at home. Chris would have had the little ones wellversed in particle physics at the age of 5, and the little 1 would be teaching me how to operate the computerlong before that. Seriously though, as Mike and I have been saying in our private conversations, entrusting children to strangers is an open door for a lot of things, including abuse, even if it's the teachers, especially at a tender age, if a child is uncomfortable with a teacher a parent and the school should listen. Often children are intimidated and don't tell mommy everything. I did well in school, but I hated it. Since guns are so readily available here, maybe I should have 1 too? I don't want that kind of toy, too noisy. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:20 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation On 14 Sep 2008, at 15:25 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Other than > Dunblane, it's hard to find any evidence of school shootings in the > UK. Though if there were, we could solve the problem by banning school and letting people shoot each other in the great outdoors as the gods surely intended. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 14 17:42:03 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:42:03 -0400 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <20080914212014.M87354@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: 2 laughs in a day, we're onn a roll here. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:25 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:25:07 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote > > Though I see that really it's all down to Harry Potter, which > obviously explains *everything*. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-408490/Ban-Harry-Potter-face- > school-shootings.html LOL! > After all, those books are illegal in the UK, and we have hardly > any shootings. Oh no hang on, that's guns. Well, no relevance there > obviously, moving on. No, of course guns have nothing to do whatsoever with shootings. How dare you suggest such a connection! What's that, Mike? I'm standing on your soapbox???? Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Sep 14 17:56:35 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:56:35 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 14 Sep 2008, at 16:42 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > Since guns are so readily available here, maybe I should have 1 > too? I > don't want that kind of toy, too noisy. Well, I find it difficult to hold a gun and a guitar at the same time, so I have opted to stick with the guitar for the time being! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 19:01:19 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:01:19 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <828277.14788.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: *actually I apologize as the readers here cannot hear what mary and I hear with the "it's for you", I don't know if the "waves and clouds" can be heard on a reverse of whatever longest version availble to the market has to offer....* *my bad* On 9/14/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > !!!!!!!!!!!! > > Mike Coalman is way > Chris Owen has the right lyrics. > > !!!!!!!!!!!! > > Mike Coalman is way off and so is Mary!!!!! > > ObCD: Legendary Pink Dots "Ancient Daze" > NP: Legendary Pink Dots "Ancient Daze" > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Owen O'Neill > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 7:09:50 > Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff > > I'm remembering "what happened?" near the end, too > > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > > I'll find a recording of it, I don't have my usual fuel on though, that > > which helps me think....The very last words are "cure for complacency" I > > thought. > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM, mike coleman >wrote: > > > >> alright Owen, you got the job > >> the ending of psi-power has something there, ot could be "and the year > >> was", > >> or it could be and what I hear is "it's for you" > >> when you play it backwards it says "waves and clouds" for sure amongst > >> other > >> as yet unknown things.....today I believe I am hearing "I saw it > >> personally"....... > >> good luck > >> of course any person with proper inherited genetics knows that clouds > can > >> be > >> artificially generated rather than naturally formed > >> > >> On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: > >> > > >> > <...> > >> > > >> > 11 the approx thermionic 15 > >> > 10 ? > >> > 20 C.R.M. ??^ > >> > 30 (1B) Splash one MI > >> > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 > >> > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 > >> > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? > >> > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) > >> > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) > >> > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 > >> > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? 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They somehow manage to be awesome, > >> despite > >> > CC > >> > >>> having a big stake in them > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. > >> > >> > >> > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the newly > >> > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is > >> > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. > >> > >> > >> > >> -S. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > > > > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 19:13:43 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:13:43 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: Message-ID: the irony is, I probably had it comin' from NY and elsewhere, but not from Norway thanks Mary, and I am not bothered, I'm a bigger soul than to be upset that he wants quick service, I'll just do whatever he wants unbeknownst to Christian, I was getting a double whammy but for differing reasons it's all moonweeds fault you know everything is moonweeds fault On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Christian,please take your issues with Mike off the forum,, and give the > guy a chance to get you your order, or the cash. I've known him since 1990, > so tell your mother to please stop worrying, I can assure you you will get > whatever you're owed. That, I can promise, wasn't I supposed to get a Neu > CD from you? Whenever you can do it,, if at all it would really be > appreciated. We don't need any cat fights here. Mike is a major source of > knowledge, and he's never steered me wrong, so relax, chill out, and you'll > get it. As you probably know, unless you pay to send something by air it > takes at least a week. I hope you're doing well, aside from, worrying about > amusic deal that's taking a little lomnger than you anticipated? I do > understand your anxiety, I'm getting by, I'll leave it at that. Take good > care. > > Peace, > > Mary > > m > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:03 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > WELL I SENT MIKE 100 DOLLARS FOR A DOJO WARRIOR. AND THEN HE ISNT SENDING > ME THE MONEY. MY MOTHER IS CRYING CAUSE MIKE RIPPED ME OFF. DONT TRADE WITH > COLEMAN HE IS A RIPOFF! > > HA HUNDERD DOLLARS AINT NOTHING. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Dangerous LSD Cult > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 17:59:50 > Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > yes he is threatening me as I type > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > you're bad > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your > > > friend, > > > Kaduflyer > > > > > > Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you require, > > and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in london??? > > I am _of course_ teasing you mary > > > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 19:30:02 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:30:02 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Well, I find it difficult to hold a gun and a guitar at the same time, so I > have opted to stick with the guitar for the time being! *Ace "Paul" Frehley solved that, I think he should load it with something deadly and get the others* *as for myself, a gun is too easy, I have a feeling you could shoot me and I would just be invigorated and proceed to reduce one to -o-, no bone particulates* but I certainly do not want to test the theory From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 19:33:17 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:33:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: 80s Metal In-Reply-To: <5163F29C-4B45-4AB7-BC46-1D8D5F19919E@carlaz.com> Message-ID: anybody got any exodus with kirk playing??? On 9/14/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > And speaking of '80s metal (I think this counts), I've just recently heard > bits of the new Metallica album (dodgy pirate copies having washed all the > way up the Andes more effectively than any storm surge anywhere could ;)) > and it actually doesn't suck horribly. I think I even genuinely enjoyed > some of what I heard! There may yet be some life in the old > psychoanalysis-escapees. At worst, I think a summation as "Not topping the > old highlights but at least damn sight better than last couple of decades" > would probably do it. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 14 20:22:24 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:22:24 -0400 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809141613v1c4500ecu2644ddec00c777ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I love this group. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 7:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} the irony is, I probably had it comin' from NY and elsewhere, but not from Norway thanks Mary, and I am not bothered, I'm a bigger soul than to be upset that he wants quick service, I'll just do whatever he wants unbeknownst to Christian, I was getting a double whammy but for differing reasons it's all moonweeds fault you know everything is moonweeds fault On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Christian,please take your issues with Mike off the forum,, and give the > guy a chance to get you your order, or the cash. I've known him since 1990, > so tell your mother to please stop worrying, I can assure you you will get > whatever you're owed. That, I can promise, wasn't I supposed to get a Neu > CD from you? Whenever you can do it,, if at all it would really be > appreciated. We don't need any cat fights here. Mike is a major source of > knowledge, and he's never steered me wrong, so relax, chill out, and you'll > get it. As you probably know, unless you pay to send something by air it > takes at least a week. I hope you're doing well, aside from, worrying about > amusic deal that's taking a little lomnger than you anticipated? I do > understand your anxiety, I'm getting by, I'll leave it at that. Take good > care. > > Peace, > > Mary > > m > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:03 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > WELL I SENT MIKE 100 DOLLARS FOR A DOJO WARRIOR. AND THEN HE ISNT SENDING > ME THE MONEY. MY MOTHER IS CRYING CAUSE MIKE RIPPED ME OFF. DONT TRADE WITH > COLEMAN HE IS A RIPOFF! > > HA HUNDERD DOLLARS AINT NOTHING. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Dangerous LSD Cult > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 17:59:50 > Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > yes he is threatening me as I type > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > you're bad > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Dangerous LSD Cult > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:21 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: HW: Spaced out in London {Live Walthamstow 2002} > > > > > > On 9/14/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > > > Hi Steve,Do you know how Much they were?I'd like to have a copy. Your > > > friend, > > > Kaduflyer > > > > > > Hi mary, you need to specify to steve which of the pressings you require, > > and steve while you're at it could you find me a spaced out in london??? > > I am _of course_ teasing you mary > > > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 14 22:48:35 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:48:35 -0500 Subject: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809141601t6e5a87c0p5da313e15b559dec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I checked the Virgin cd issue and the last words are indeed just slightly chopped (where I hear "it's for you") as it goes into the next track but don't let that stop you from unlocking everything for mary, you know what cats are like..... gone to bed On 9/14/08, mike coleman wrote: > > *actually I apologize as the readers here cannot hear what mary and I hear > with the "it's for you", I don't know if the "waves and clouds" can be heard > on a reverse of whatever longest version availble to the market has to > offer....* > *my bad* > > > On 9/14/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >> !!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> Mike Coalman is way >> Chris Owen has the right lyrics. >> >> !!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> Mike Coalman is way off and so is Mary!!!!! >> >> ObCD: Legendary Pink Dots "Ancient Daze" >> NP: Legendary Pink Dots "Ancient Daze" >> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Owen O'Neill >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Sunday, 14 September, 2008 7:09:50 >> Subject: Re: OFF) I'm now going to leap completely off the cliff >> >> I'm remembering "what happened?" near the end, too >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Owen O'Neill wrote: >> >> > I'll find a recording of it, I don't have my usual fuel on though, that >> > which helps me think....The very last words are "cure for complacency" I >> > thought. >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM, mike coleman > >wrote: >> > >> >> alright Owen, you got the job >> >> the ending of psi-power has something there, ot could be "and the year >> >> was", >> >> or it could be and what I hear is "it's for you" >> >> when you play it backwards it says "waves and clouds" for sure amongst >> >> other >> >> as yet unknown things.....today I believe I am hearing "I saw it >> >> personally"....... >> >> good luck >> >> of course any person with proper inherited genetics knows that clouds >> can >> >> be >> >> artificially generated rather than naturally formed >> >> >> >> On 9/12/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: >> >> > >> >> > <...> >> >> > >> >> > 11 the approx thermionic 15 >> >> > 10 ? >> >> > 20 C.R.M. ??^ >> >> > 30 (1B) Splash one MI >> >> > 45 GOTO 45 10/1/07 >> >> > 45 R- is scheduled 45 GOTO at hexa100 01 watch at 35 to 34 >> >> > 46 ! lookout 31 BCD get off the line? >> >> > 30 safety snake food door number 1 [] [] (Y/N) >> >> > 40 :/ Y number one 8 & 8 ([] 35 34) >> >> > 50 _/\/\|? <> 8 >> >> > 55 ~?_bifurcation_fork_ so de-godelize with 2nd order partial ? ? 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They somehow manage to be awesome, >> >> despite >> >> > CC >> >> > >>> having a big stake in them >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> CC have a share in XM?? Shocker.. didn't know that. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> I wonder how the amount of anti Clear Channel rhetoric on the >> newly >> >> > >> merged Sirius channels 100 & 101 will go down there.. Sirius is >> >> > >> populated by many people who hate Clear Channel. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> -S. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> >> >> >> >> > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 15 01:40:48 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:40:48 -0400 Subject: Al is that you...? Message-ID: On the right, at 2:07? ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc9PPy0jzc8 Steve From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 15 06:21:29 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:21:29 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:25:07 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 15 06:24:27 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:24:27 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:20:15 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 15 06:25:20 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:25:20 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Arjan Hulsebos's message of Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:25:25 +0200 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 15 06:29:48 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:29:48 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Mary Sullivan's message of Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:42:03 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 15 06:33:12 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:33:12 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:56:35 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 15 07:14:18 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:14:18 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <200809151033.m8FAXCOA001748@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 15 Sep 2008, at 05:33 , M Holmes wrote: > Carl Edlund Anderson writes: >> Well, I find it difficult to hold a gun and a guitar at the same >> time > > Clearly you'll never be a C&W star... I've learned to live with that realization ... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 15 07:53:25 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:53:25 -0400 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <200809151025.m8FAPKJ8001114@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I guess it's O.K. for me to get my gun since nobody seems to object. Mike H., , thanks for the laughs. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation Arjan Hulsebos writes: > No, of course guns have nothing to do whatsoever with shootings. How dare you > suggest such a connection! > > What's that, Mike? I'm standing on your soapbox???? Yeh. Gerroff Moi Land! FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Sep 15 12:09:57 2008 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:09:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pink Floyd's keyboardist has passed away Message-ID: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7617363.stm From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 15 12:42:36 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:42:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Pink Floyd's keyboardist has passed away In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 15 Sep 2008, at 11:09 , Jason Scruton wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7617363.stm Wow, I had no idea he'd been ill. The music world continues to take blows. :( Well. I'm glad the '70s lineup got a chance to go out in style back at Live 8. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 15 14:50:13 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:50:13 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind - Stonehenge Geocoin Message-ID: Any Geocachers on the group? Thought I'd let you know that I have today released a geoincoin featuring Stonhenge, into the wild with a misson to go on a world tour visiting sites linked to Hawkwind or visiting fans around the world. I have deicated the coin to the memory of Jason. If you are lucky enough to find this please let me know and take a photo for the gallery. My Geo ID is FR8YS. The coin is called Hawkwind - Stonehenge Geocoin (cut and paste to search) If you are not a cacher and want to know more click here http://www.geocaching.com/ Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Sep 15 16:47:56 2008 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:47:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: the cult of the harvester of eyes and black blades, in comics that is. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Fun stuff --- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/cultharvesteye.htm http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/blackblademuramasa.htm From kruch7 at COX.NET Mon Sep 15 16:57:21 2008 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Joseph Elric Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:57:21 -0400 Subject: the cult of the harvester of eyes and black blades, in comics that is. Message-ID: wow cool links thanks for sharing Ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? Blog http://www.aeonity.com/arioch http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Scruton" To: Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: BOC: the cult of the harvester of eyes and black blades, in comics that is. > Fun stuff --- > > http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/cultharvesteye.htm > > > http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/blackblademuramasa.htm > -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1672 - Release Date: 9/15/2008 9:21 AM From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Sep 15 17:43:01 2008 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:43:01 -0400 Subject: the cult of the harvester of eyes and black blades, in comics that is. In-Reply-To: <9A724C25C1DD4598999929AEC3144DE1@Arioch> Message-ID: and this is vera gemini's page -- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/geminive.htm At 04:57 PM 9/15/2008, you wrote: >wow cool links thanks for sharing >Ken > >Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics >Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you > >Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour > >WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? >Blog http://www.aeonity.com/arioch >http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Scruton" >To: >Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:47 PM >Subject: BOC: the cult of the harvester of eyes and black blades, in >comics that is. > > >>Fun stuff --- >>http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/cultharvesteye.htm >> >> >>http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/blackblademuramasa.htm > > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1672 - Release Date: >9/15/2008 9:21 AM From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Sep 15 19:10:03 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:10:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pink Floyd's keyboardist has passed away In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I didn't know he was ill either, a major loss to music, the music he made wil llive on forever. I got high listening to Echoes when I first heard it, and didn't injest anything unusual. I hope he was kept comfortable during his illness. It's very sad. I wish him rest and peace. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Pink Floyd's keyboardist has passed away On 15 Sep 2008, at 11:09 , Jason Scruton wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7617363.stm Wow, I had no idea he'd been ill. The music world continues to take blows. :( Well. I'm glad the '70s lineup got a chance to go out in style back at Live 8. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 16 10:00:43 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:00:43 +0100 Subject: Off: Litmus News In-Reply-To: <810865.24051.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 08:07:32PM +0000, Colin Allen typed out: > Firstly, some news on the recording front; the band are booked to go > back to Foel Studio in North Wales in November in order to finish off > the vocals for the new album.? Hopefully, an intense weekend should see > everything finished. Excellent, looking forward to this. You have Farflung to beat this year, though... > 5th September 2008 > Kosmische Club > Corsica Studio > Units 4/5 > Elephant Road > London > SE17 1LB I couldn't make this one, sadly, how did it go? I hope to make it to Stockwell, possibly in disguise to avoid Judge Trev's wrath, and hopefully to one or two of the others too. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Sep 17 05:00:40 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:00:40 +0000 Subject: Off: Litmus News In-Reply-To: <20080916140043.GG16545@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: The Farflung album is excellent; hearing it has made me dig out my other Farflung CDs and I have fallen in love with The Belief Module all over again. ? The Kosmische gig was ok; it was all rather badly organised but the guys played an excellent set. --- On Tue, 16/9/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: From: Jonathan Jarrett Subject: Re: Off: Litmus News To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 September, 2008, 3:00 PM On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 08:07:32PM +0000, Colin Allen typed out: > Firstly, some news on the recording front; the band are booked to go > back to Foel Studio in North Wales in November in order to finish off > the vocals for the new album.? Hopefully, an intense weekend should see > everything finished. Excellent, looking forward to this. You have Farflung to beat this year, though... > 5th September 2008 > Kosmische Club > Corsica Studio > Units 4/5 > Elephant Road > London > SE17 1LB I couldn't make this one, sadly, how did it go? I hope to make it to Stockwell, possibly in disguise to avoid Judge Trev's wrath, and hopefully to one or two of the others too. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 16 21:48:13 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:48:13 +0000 Subject: Virgin Charisma years Message-ID: I for sure am glad to see this era of HW being remastered after all those terrible Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates, being out of print since the 80s. Has the band said anything about the bogus releases? some are selling at high prices at Amazon for example. chr, From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Sep 16 22:08:50 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 02:08:50 +0000 Subject: Virgin Charisma years Message-ID: correction i meant that the original Virgin Charisma CDs have been out of print, not the Charismas. Way back in 1996 when I joined I had about 80 Hawkwind CDs and had never met or spoken to Anybody who liked Hawkwind before. Its strange to think about. I used to master the english language much better (so good in English that I could have passed as a UKer) Well my point is, i lost my original HW collection and its been hell on earth to replace my collection on all the labels etc. which I originally had. Post trauma of losing my original HW stuff its eating me up inside that I actually own those poseur German pirates of Warrior, Quark, Astounding and PXR5 and 25Years On. Now its all being remastered so time to spend another 30 000 kroner on Hawkwind CDs but I need those Virgin ones, they are after all my fave period, ah the romance and mystique and SF imagery is unparrallelled. Long may they fly......... Christian ----- Original Message ---- From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, 17 September, 2008 3:48:13 Subject: Virgin Charisma years I for sure am glad to see this era of HW being remastered after all those terrible Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates, being out of print since the 80s. Has the band said anything about the bogus releases? some are selling at high prices at Amazon for example. chr, From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 17 09:49:09 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:49:09 -0700 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation Message-ID: ..or play gigs with the Hong Kong Cavaliers.. Steve -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes Date: Monday, Sep 15, 2008 6:35 am Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > Well, I find it difficult to hold a gun and a guitar at the same time Clearly you'll never be a C&W star... FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 17 10:10:38 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:10:38 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <3304489748.14997650@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually, there was a luthier here in Colombia who took some of the weapons from decommissioned paramilitary groups and turned them into guitars as a sort of symbolic "swords into ploughshares" thing. A number of big-name musicians here keenly took them up, famously Colombian metalhead-turned-poprock-icon Juanes (who even took one on his US tour, and was amazed that it somehow breezed through customs with barely a second look while the utterly normal amplifiers were scrutinized in considerable detail). Maybe I can get one of those -- there oughta be enough decommissioned weapons to go around! ;) Cheers, Carl On 17 Sep 2008, at 08:49 , Steve Swann wrote: > ..or play gigs with the Hong Kong Cavaliers.. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes > Date: Monday, Sep 15, 2008 6:35 am > Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > >> Well, I find it difficult to hold a gun and a guitar at the same > time > > Clearly you'll never be a C&W star... > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Sep 17 10:16:38 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:16:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: Latest casualty in the loudness wars Message-ID: Steve Swann, look away now... :-) http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/sep/17/metallica.guitar.hero.loudness.war Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Sep 17 11:10:42 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:10:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: Latest casualty in the loudness wars In-Reply-To: <2FEA5432-6F7E-4B21-A9DC-AEE3F14B48ED@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: I rather expected the new Metallica to be outrageously over- compressed, and what I heard certainly didn't disappoint my expectation (in contrast with my ears ;)). Interesting that the Guitar Hero version is better, though! I wouldn't have predicted that. I wonder what the explanation is (beyond the obvious that the versions of the tracks sent to the gaming people went out before the versions for the CD were "smashed to f**k"). Cheers, Carl On 17 Sep 2008, at 09:16 , Paul Mather wrote: > Steve Swann, look away now... :-) > http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/sep/17/ > metallica.guitar.hero.loudness.war -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Sep 17 12:30:58 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:30:58 -0400 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <821F2628-D18A-4C1A-B638-81EC191C3D7F@carlaz.com> Message-ID: since I don't play guitar very well, I guess I don't want to play a gun, either. That's funny about customs. Do people give their guns names like guitars? Of course, aside from the fear people are experiencing, a lot of this gun stuff seems to be a macho thing, "Mine's bigger than yours." When it comes down to it, whether it be sex or guns, the end result from either is going to be the same, even a little gun can blow you into the next world. A guitar is a better use for them, if they need to be used at all. I do believe a person has the right to own them, just to freak people out I thought about going into a gun shop and demanding to buy 1 because it's my constitutional right. I guess I'm not quite as young and crazy as I could get, back a few years ago. I actually would have done it, especially if I was challenged. I feel like I've aged about 20 years within the past few months, I guess it's all relative. while myy gun gently weeps, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:11 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation Actually, there was a luthier here in Colombia who took some of the weapons from decommissioned paramilitary groups and turned them into guitars as a sort of symbolic "swords into ploughshares" thing. A number of big-name musicians here keenly took them up, famously Colombian metalhead-turned-poprock-icon Juanes (who even took one on his US tour, and was amazed that it somehow breezed through customs with barely a second look while the utterly normal amplifiers were scrutinized in considerable detail). Maybe I can get one of those -- there oughta be enough decommissioned weapons to go around! ;) Cheers, Carl On 17 Sep 2008, at 08:49 , Steve Swann wrote: > ..or play gigs with the Hong Kong Cavaliers.. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes > Date: Monday, Sep 15, 2008 6:35 am > Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > >> Well, I find it difficult to hold a gun and a guitar at the same > time > > Clearly you'll never be a C&W star... > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 17 13:02:52 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:02:52 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Mary Sullivan's message of Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:30:58 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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While he was with first with Sabbath there seemed to be so much mudslinging between the Sabbath and Ozzy camps.? > I really like "Rainbow Rising" and think it could be interesting if he worked with Ritchie Blackmore again. Unfortunately Cozy Powell's out of the picture and Blackmore's playing renaissance festival music. ??? The biggest problem with Dio I have is how corny his lyrics are. And, on _Rainbow Rising_ particularly, especially `Stargazer', how many times he repeats them. The trouble is he doesn't seem to sound much cop singing others' words, but his own are almost too much to take. It's a splendid album, but I do wish he'd just shut up and let the band play after a few times through the variations... Yours, Jon n/p ELvis Costello - _My Aim Is True_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Sep 17 17:25:46 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:25:46 EDT Subject: The Wright Stuff - Jason Stuart Tribute... Message-ID: Matthew Wright will be paying a tribute to Jason on his show tomorrow morning. It airs on Channel 5 at 9am to 10:30am. Steve. From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Sep 18 04:09:07 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:09:07 -0400 Subject: The September 2008 issue of Aural Innovations is online now!!! Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com THE SEPTEMBER 2008 ISSUE OF AURAL INNOVATIONS IS ONLINE NOW!!! The September 2008 issue (#40) of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers Space Rock, Psychedelia, Stoner Rock, Electronic music, Progressive Rock and more. See the index of this issue's contents below. The September 2008 issue of Aural Innovations includes: Joxfield ProjeX profile/interview Jeremy Morris profile/interview Horizons Beyond Infinity: A Guild to the Pioneers of Space Music in the Age of Apollo A Space Rock Odyssey Uppsala, Sweden 8/30/08 Kildemose Festival, ?rb?k (Denmark June 29-30th, 2008) Roskilde Festival (Denmark July 3-7th, 2008) Sweden Rock Festival (June 4-8th, 2008) Edward Artemeiv's Musical Universe (book review) Live Concert Reviews Releases from Voiceprint Releases from Overlord Records Releases from Sulatron Records Releases from Stone Island Records Releases from Transubstans Records Releases from Ambientlive Releases from Aquatalan Records Releases from Releases from Beta-lactam Ring Records Releases from Inam Records Releases from Small Stone Records Releases from Crucial Blast Releases from Esoteric Recordings And loads of other reviews!!! You can go directly to the new issue at: http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue40/issue40.html http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 18 07:18:42 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:18:42 +0100 Subject: The Worlds of Fantasy Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 18 08:30:36 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:30:36 -0500 Subject: The September 2008 issue of Aural Innovations is online now!!! In-Reply-To: <00f501c91965$d44c47d0$0200a8c0@kranman> Message-ID: On 18 Sep 2008, at 03:09 , Jerry Kranitz wrote: > A Space Rock Odyssey Uppsala, Sweden 8/30/08 > Kildemose Festival, ?rb?k (Denmark June 29-30th, 2008) > Roskilde Festival (Denmark July 3-7th, 2008) > Sweden Rock Festival (June 4-8th, 2008) Scandinavia is clearly the center of the space-rock universe! (Winds of time doubtless blowing through it ....) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Sep 18 08:31:05 2008 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:31:05 +0100 Subject: The Worlds of Fantasy In-Reply-To: <200809181118.m8IBIgEu015126@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Ahhhh, Optimist says I really really really hope that whilst all the current & x hawks were "talking" and signing up to the re-release program , that they managed to discuss and agree to get this footage and whatever else footage stored, out to us. I just want the footage, if its got no sound, i'll dub it from Space Ritual, I don't care, I just want to see it, and the Hawklords footage, its ours to see and not someones to hold in a bloody bank doing nothing for anyone.... Unfortunately the pesimist says, that EMI or whomever has it, will never let it go, as no one will agree to the licencig & royalties etc, and we'll have to wait until they are all dead and most of us too. Its a real shame. Love & Peace & hoping that the band will still be touring in December (frome here I come, ohh and Falmouth, hopefully there's a campsite open down there so we can take the Campervan down there and watch the band. iain M Holmes wrote: > On one of the digital channels a month or so back. Episode 3 had > Moorcock interviewed talking about Tolein, hippies and Fantasy novels. > They showed clips from ToTP Silver machine, but there were some > two-second clips of a nude Stacia, obviously from a later Space Ritual > gig judging by the colour wash. Somewhere, someone has footage of SR... > > FoFP > > > > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 18 08:35:10 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:35:10 -0500 Subject: The Worlds of Fantasy In-Reply-To: <200809181118.m8IBIgEu015126@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 18 Sep 2008, at 06:18 , M Holmes wrote: > They showed clips from ToTP Silver machine, but there were some > two-second clips of a nude Stacia, obviously from a later Space Ritual > gig judging by the colour wash. Somewhere, someone has footage of > SR... With the usual Luck of Hawkwind, what was once a gloriously pro-shot multi-camera document of the Space Ritual tour (complete with multi- track soundboard mix) has during the intervening years been lost, found, subjected to public enquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters, resulting in the only surviving material being a a few 2-second clips of a nude Stacia .... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Sep 18 08:43:45 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:43:45 -0400 Subject: The Worlds of Fantasy In-Reply-To: <200809181118.m8IBIgEu015126@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 18 Sep 2008, at 7:18 AM, M Holmes wrote: > On one of the digital channels a month or so back. Episode 3 had > Moorcock interviewed talking about Tolein, hippies and Fantasy novels. > They showed clips from ToTP Silver machine, but there were some > two-second clips of a nude Stacia, obviously from a later Space Ritual > gig judging by the colour wash. Somewhere, someone has footage of > SR... Didn't the BBC4 Hawkwind documentary feature one or two short clips that would fit the above description? Are the ones you saw taken from that, or are they previously-unseen footage? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From steve.bishop at DB.COM Thu Sep 18 08:43:49 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:43:49 +0100 Subject: The Worlds of Fantasy In-Reply-To: <48D24A09.7050803@aol.com> Message-ID: T'would be remarkable if the only 2-second clips remaining were purely of a naked Stacia - how discerning ...........! --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 18 08:53:51 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:53:51 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <20080917211501.GF29437@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 17 Sep 2008, at 16:15 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > The biggest problem with Dio I have is how corny his lyrics are. > And, on _Rainbow Rising_ particularly, especially `Stargazer', how > many > times he repeats them. The trouble is he doesn't seem to sound much > cop > singing others' words, but his own are almost too much to take. It's a > splendid album, but I do wish he'd just shut up and let the band play > after a few times through the variations... Dio does have the capacity to write some ferociously cheese-ball lyrics though, in fairness, we don't have to travel far in the World o' Metal to find serious competition for the fermented dairy products competition. Heavy, the mighty early Sabbath itself is not exactly about to win any literary prizes for their lyrics. ;) Not everyone has the strangeitude of Pearlman or the madness of Calvert on board. But though Dio's lyrics may well be more _pretentious_ (read "corny" if thy goblet of metal hath temporarily been set down ;)) than many, though I'm not sure they're significantly _worse_ (or less coherent) than many. He does tend to wail on a bit when we might prefer an extended instrumental workout, but this is always a danger when there's a singer in the band with nothing else to do (cue Gillan's congas ;)) and of course especially when they have primma-dona-ish tendencies .... ;) "Dio has rocked for a long, long time, Now it's time for him to pass the torch. He has songs of wilderbeasts and angels, He has soared on the wings of a demon. It's time to pass the torch, You're too old to rock, no more rockin' for you. We're takin' you to a home, But we will sing a song about you." Well ... actually I hope he still has at least the upcoming Heaven & Hell album in him! :) It took a _long_ time for Dio to grow on me, but I've come to appreciate his contribution in the right setting -- which seems to be in the company of a riff-monging genius like Blackmore or Iommi who can provide sufficient foundational musical glory to carry Dio's outrageous word-smithing. Wilderbeasts and angels not withstanding .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 18 11:20:45 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:20:45 +0100 Subject: HW: newly up on the hw myspace page In-Reply-To: <200809091040.m89AeHb8006966@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:40:17AM +0100, M Holmes typed out: > Colin Allen writes: > > Terribly sad news about Jason.?? I only met him once, in the days > > before he joined Hawkwind, but he seemed to be a genuinely decent > > human being.?? Sincerest condolences to his family and friends > > from all the Litmus folk. > I hope that it will in the future provide some comfort to his family and > friends that many of us will enjoy his work for a long time to come. It seems to be a bad time to be a keyboardist. Awful news, he seemed like fun. There are no good outcomes from an event like this. My sympathies are with those left to cope, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Sep 18 10:10:18 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:10:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: "Dio has rocked for a long, long time, Now it's time for him to pass the torch. He has songs of wilderbeasts and angels, He has soared on the wings of a demon. It's time to pass the torch, You're too old to rock, no more rockin' for you. We're takin' you to a home, But we will sing a song about you." Now THATS corny, like psych ward or retirement home isnt! Well ... actually I hope he still has at least the upcoming Heaven & Hell album in him! :) It took a _long_ time for Dio to grow on me, but I've come to appreciate his contribution in the right setting -- which seems to be in the company of a riff-monging genius like Blackmore or Iommi who can provide sufficient foundational musical glory to carry Dio's outrageous word-smithing. Wilderbeasts and angels not withstanding .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ I always liked Dio better than Ozzy. I really like Born Again w/Gillan. Christian NP: The Strokes "First Impressions of Earth" From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 18 11:50:31 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:50:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <937933.16708.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 18 Sep 2008, at 09:10 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> "Dio has rocked for a long, long time, >> Now it's time for him to pass the torch. >> He has songs of wilderbeasts and angels, >> He has soared on the wings of a demon. >> >> It's time to pass the torch, >> You're too old to rock, no more rockin' for you. >> We're takin' you to a home, >> But we will sing a song about you." > > > > Now THATS corny, like psych ward or retirement home isnt! I am, of course, quoting the mighty Tenacious D's song "Dio". :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Sep 18 12:04:47 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:04:47 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell Message-ID: NNot much of a rap fan, if you know what I mean. I am a rock maniac though and thought i would be late with some Sabbath observations!!. I played "Rusty Angels" by Sabbath on the radio in 2006 on a Xmas special (I like Tony Martin's vocals alot, and I think the song is a classic from the pre-reunion era from1995 (from "Forbidden"). Ihave some sabbath DVDs with Gillan and Dio and Martin........ Dio never struck me as corny/xheesey really, more uh beefey. ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 18 September, 2008 17:50:31 Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell On 18 Sep 2008, at 09:10 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> "Dio has rocked for a long, long time, >> Now it's time for him to pass the torch. >> He has songs of wilderbeasts and angels, >> He has soared on the wings of a demon. >> >> It's time to pass the torch, >> You're too old to rock, no more rockin' for you. >> We're takin' you to a home, >> But we will sing a song about you." > > > > Now THATS corny, like psych ward or retirement home isnt! I am, of course, quoting the mighty Tenacious D's song "Dio". :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 18 12:28:11 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:28:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <512953.93343.qm@web23006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 18 Sep 2008, at 11:04 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > NNot much of a rap fan, if you know what I mean. Well, I kinda of do, but with that in mind, I should advise you that Tenacious D are a acoustic/rock comedy act and not a rap act. :) For example: Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 18 12:41:50 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:41:50 +0100 Subject: The Worlds of Fantasy In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:43:45 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Sep 18 12:52:08 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:52:08 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell Message-ID: NP: U2 "Under A Blood Red Sky" aha! goes to show how much i know. NP: U2 "Under A Blood Red Sky" ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 18 September, 2008 18:28:11 Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell On 18 Sep 2008, at 11:04 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > NNot much of a rap fan, if you know what I mean. Well, I kinda of do, but with that in mind, I should advise you that Tenacious D are a acoustic/rock comedy act and not a rap act. :) For example: Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From p_cianci at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 18 14:19:35 2008 From: p_cianci at YAHOO.COM (Wylie) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:19:35 -0700 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation Message-ID: Quothe FoFP: >If you want to say "NO" >convincingly to a rapist, a gun is much more likely to work than a guitar. Indeed, but the odds are not so good with the gun if one is surprised. Martial arts skills are much more handy. My 7-year-old has been in karate class for a couple years now. Even for her size and age, when she hits you, you _know_ you've been hit. Come the teen years, the "worrying about boys" thing may take on a whole new meaning. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 18 14:39:13 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:39:13 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <489907.58986.qm@web54009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And my guitar is pretty heavy -- you could do someone an injury, going on Pete Townsend on 'em! ;) Cheers, Carl On 18 Sep 2008, at 13:19 , Wylie wrote: > Quothe FoFP: >> If you want to say "NO" >> convincingly to a rapist, a gun is much more likely to work than a >> guitar. > > Indeed, but the odds are not so good with the gun if one is surprised. > Martial arts skills are much more handy. My 7-year-old has been in > karate class for a couple years now. Even for her size and age, > when she hits you, you _know_ you've been hit. Come the teen > years, the "worrying about boys" thing may take on a whole new > meaning. -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 18 14:49:20 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:49:20 +0100 Subject: The Worlds of Fantasy In-Reply-To: <200809181641.m8IGfoai008127@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Isn't this on the Space Ritual DVD? the Urban Guerrilla video if I remember that someone said would have given Tony Blackburn a haeart attack. I did ask if this had been done recently or if it was an original video from the 70's but no-one seemed to know,. Steve On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, M Holmes wrote: > Paul Mather writes: > > > On 18 Sep 2008, at 7:18 AM, M Holmes wrote: > > > > > On one of the digital channels a month or so back. Episode 3 had > > > Moorcock interviewed talking about Tolein, hippies and Fantasy novels. > > > They showed clips from ToTP Silver machine, but there were some > > > two-second clips of a nude Stacia, obviously from a later Space Ritual > > > gig judging by the colour wash. Somewhere, someone has footage of > > > SR... > > > > Didn't the BBC4 Hawkwind documentary feature one or two short clips > > that would fit the above description? Are the ones you saw taken from > > that, or are they previously-unseen footage? > > Good point! Need to check... > > FoFP > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Thu Sep 18 15:08:25 2008 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (SickthingsUK) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:08:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong Message-ID: Does anyone have a list (and track list) of the old GAS tapes that the Appriciation Society released over the years? Sure I had one but can't find it anywhere, or on the Gong sote :( Thanks From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 18 15:50:31 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:50:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:59:30PM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > The followup to TCW was _Tyranny of Souls_, which is also quite good > (definitely better than _Tattooed Millionaire_, IMO) if not quite as > fab as TCW (IMO). It lacks Adrian Smith (both he and Bruce being > back in the Maiden fold by then) and is largely a Bruce/Roy Z > collaborative effort -- but that still produces an album better than > many I've heard. I have heard some fan's pick _Accident of Birth_, > the predecessor to TCW as a favorite Dickinson solo album (and it has > the same band as TCW, I think), but I definitely prefer TCW and Tyranny. I borrowed _Accident of Birth_ from a friend a while after getting TCW, and though the band is the same and the sound is the same, and I can see how people would like it, it just doesn't have the whole Blake schtick which makes TCW so compelling. _Accident of Birth_ does not demand to have its artwork done as woodcuts and oils; TCW really does benefit from its concept to elevate the interest value of the music and words together, for me at least. AoB punches about the same weight, but doesn't have the style. So I thought anyway, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 18 16:24:12 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:24:12 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <399F6776-0FFC-4514-B4E2-688F848AC772@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 9/18/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > And my guitar is pretty heavy -- you could do someone an injury, going on > Pete Townsend on 'em! ;) > Cheers, > Carl My friend Robert (the colorado one, who had the computer problem) can kick anyone's ass (that's arse to Trev). He grew up with this limitless storehouse of energy or something, and I mean what I just said. His brother James _TEACHES_ martial arts in California, and has for years, and just for an example they had some tournament and somehow Bob was there and ended up kicking all the arses, James superiors included. It is so frustrating that these handly little "killing machines" so often end up like Bob is now, Trev's fundamentalist enemy with unbeliveable self-control and tolerance. Somebody tried to steal his dinner right out of his hand and he almost slipped but didn't. I find communicating with him is turning almost into a copy of the now discarded fundamentalist, who was fake, anyway in some respects I feel like I could share more with the tree outside the religion is so constipating but Carl I need you to involve yourself in an LP conspiracy with Dallas ,,,,,The Doremi's are GATEFOLDS when picked from your trees there....DUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 18 16:41:56 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:41:56 -0500 Subject: The Worlds of Fantasy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: pardon what my be recurring ignorance in public, but could such a said film clip get or be _colorized_???? My friend Pierre is telling me they have perfected colorizing old B&W movie film, and while I personally believe NOTHING any human trys to tell me, including Nik, I was told that black and white footage exists..... and while your minds are on the Space Ritual, some hopefully usefull info to _someone_, since I realize all of you could be rich like I once was and have EVERYTHING except the Dave Allen 45, but the new SR Sundown Volume 2 includes the picture that was used in the original japanese edition's poster (and was also a poster from edmunton, I think, or something like that) but that is mandatory if you do not have it or haven't seen it......thank god for OPM On 9/18/08, Steve Freight wrote: > > Isn't this on the Space Ritual DVD? the Urban Guerrilla video if I remember > that someone said would have given Tony Blackburn a haeart attack. > > I did ask if this had been done recently or if it was an original video > from > the 70's but no-one seemed to know,. > > Steve > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, M Holmes wrote: > > > Paul Mather writes: > > > > > On 18 Sep 2008, at 7:18 AM, M Holmes wrote: > > > > > > > On one of the digital channels a month or so back. Episode 3 had > > > > Moorcock interviewed talking about Tolein, hippies and Fantasy > novels. > > > > They showed clips from ToTP Silver machine, but there were some > > > > two-second clips of a nude Stacia, obviously from a later Space > Ritual > > > > gig judging by the colour wash. Somewhere, someone has footage of > > > > SR... > > > > > > Didn't the BBC4 Hawkwind documentary feature one or two short clips > > > that would fit the above description? Are the ones you saw taken from > > > that, or are they previously-unseen footage? > > > > Good point! Need to check... > > > > FoFP > > > > -- > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 18 17:23:50 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:23:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <20080918195031.GH28978@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 18 Sep 2008, at 14:50 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > I borrowed _Accident of Birth_ from a friend a while after > getting TCW, and though the band is the same and the sound is the > same, > and I can see how people would like it, it just doesn't have the whole > Blake schtick which makes TCW so compelling. _Accident of Birth_ does > not demand to have its artwork done as woodcuts and oils; TCW really > does benefit from its concept to elevate the interest value of the > music > and words together, for me at least. AoB punches about the same > weight, > but doesn't have the style. So I thought anyway, yours, Yeah, I know what you mean. AOB is solid, but it doesn't transcend. TCW, though, is just laced with this monstrous _vibe_ that makes it as big as it should be. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 18 17:36:10 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:36:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <8BCD4E30-FD55-496D-8D44-BEE20E8AAA31@carlaz.com> Message-ID: > Yeah, I know what you mean. AOB is solid, but it doesn't transcend. TCW, > though, is just laced with this monstrous _vibe_ that makes it as big as it > should be. :) > > Seeing them a few years back on one of those annoying monstro tours that > the amercian public causes motorhead to get involved with (you know, the > "ace of spades" people), the one with the steaming brain, where we had nice > "wheelchair seating" thanks to my hope-to-godfully not deceased dear missing > friend Jeff having me wheel him in for some strange reason, I had a hard > time picking out Dave Murray whom I love since he looks like my friend Keely > kinda, as I used to see with green beer bottles a lot, so it looked to me > like they had a new young blonde toothpick??? > we missed motorhead, too fashionably late (this thread has off in the subject line) ps-yes I know heineken isn't great beer or anything, it's just all I can drink if I do From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 18 18:25:31 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:25:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809181436l2d734f2dna42d9fb9f43d1423@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 18 Sep 2008, at 16:36 , mike coleman wrote: > Seeing them a few years back on one of those annoying monstro tours > that > the amercian public causes motorhead to get involved with (you > know, the > "ace of spades" people), the one with the steaming brain, where we > had nice > "wheelchair seating" thanks to my hope-to-godfully not deceased > dear missing > friend Jeff having me wheel him in for some strange reason, I had a > hard > time picking out Dave Murray whom I love since he looks like my > friend Keely > kinda, as I used to see with green beer bottles a lot, so it looked > to me > like they had a new young blonde toothpick??? >> Assuming we are discussing Maiden Dave Murray would definitely have been there, having been in Maiden since 1976 or so. Adrian Smith, too, as he rejoined with Dickinson in 1999 and remains there now. You may be thinking of Janick Gers, who joined as a replacement for Smith when Smith left in 1990 (Gers first play on Dickinson's Tattooed Millionaire album, then joined Maiden and remained after Dickinson then left) and has stayed as a third guitarist since Smith's return. However, though conceivably a blonde toothpick, Gers is not _that_ young -- early 50s I think! Though perhaps that's still young as the history of rock goes. :) (In the 90s, while both were out of Maiden, Smith teamed up with Dickinson for Dickinson's AOB and TCW albums, and associated tours.) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 18 19:06:23 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:06:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <6C09C4BF-8F4D-459A-A404-CBBC0512A046@carlaz.com> Message-ID: > > >>> Assuming we are discussing Maiden Dave Murray would definitely have been >>> there, having been in Maiden since 1976 or so. Adrian Smith, too, as he >>> rejoined with Dickinson in 1999 and remains there now. You may be thinking >>> of Janick Gers, who joined as a replacement for Smith when Smith left in >>> 1990 (Gers first play on Dickinson's Tattooed Millionaire album, then joined >>> Maiden and remained after Dickinson then left) and has stayed as a third >>> guitarist since Smith's return. However, though conceivably a blonde >>> toothpick, Gers is not _that_ young -- early 50s I think! Though perhaps >>> that's still young as the history of rock goes. :) >>> >>> (In the 90s, while both were out of Maiden, Smith teamed up with >>> Dickinson for Dickinson's AOB and TCW albums, and associated tours.) >> >> > Carl I was hoping you would do that, if I sounded like I had an 'attitude', > I did, but not _at all_ on maiden, only in that I want my motohead shows > like I would want my LSD if I ever did it again. PURE. HEADLINING> > maiden was a band that when introduced to me in whatever the year of the 80's it was, was like "where the hell have you been" I like Dianno stuff best myself, but that is a theme for me and many bands, Hawkwind aside I seemed to discover Hawkwind, Metallica, and Motorhead all on the same day, and I did my first and only backflip at the 1985 "ride the lightning" show...I am very proud of that backflip, not to mention the clever lie to the police who pulled me over speeding away from the show...... I used to have people falling down the stairs beerbottles in tow, to the tune of "kill 'em all", going 24-7, every day of the week, security 3 times a night until the police finale, boy was I nice guy to live in apartments with they called me insane for liking this unknown metaliica....... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 18 19:14:00 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:14:00 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809181606i11af2ee3h166e6cd400da54af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: oh and, yes, exactly as you stated, murray and smith were there, as well as the fellow with the nice hair, and I do recall they played a then "new" song to do with war amongst the tribes of some sort.... Carl *PLEASE pick a SA doremi and a Church LP out of a tree there some day, for me....* *state the requirement(s)* On 9/18/08, mike coleman wrote: > > >>>> Assuming we are discussing Maiden Dave Murray would definitely have been >> there, having been in Maiden since 1976 or so. Adrian Smith, too, as he >> rejoined with Dickinson in 1999 and remains there now. You may be thinking >> of Janick Gers, who joined as a replacement for Smith when Smith left in >> 1990 (Gers first play on Dickinson's Tattooed Millionaire album, then joined >> Maiden and remained after Dickinson then left) and has stayed as a third >> guitarist since Smith's return. However, though conceivably a blonde >> toothpick, Gers is not _that_ young -- early 50s I think! Though perhaps >> that's still young as the history of rock goes. :) >> >> (In the 90s, while both were out of Maiden, Smith teamed up with Dickinson >> for Dickinson's AOB and TCW albums, and associated tours.) > > > Carl I was hoping you would do that, if I sounded like I had an 'attitude', > I did, but not _at all_ on maiden, only in that I want my motohead shows > like I would want my LSD if I ever did it again. PURE. HEADLINING> > > maiden was a band that when introduced to me in whatever the year of the > 80's it was, was like "where the hell have you been" > I like Dianno stuff best myself, but that is a theme for me and many bands, > Hawkwind aside > I seemed to discover Hawkwind, Metallica, and Motorhead all on the same > day, and I did my first and only backflip at the 1985 "ride the lightning" > show...I am very proud of that backflip, not to mention the clever lie to > the police who pulled me over speeding away from the show...... > I used to have people falling down the stairs beerbottles in tow, to the > tune of "kill 'em all", going 24-7, every day of the week, security 3 times > a night until the police finale, boy was I nice guy to live in apartments > with > they called me insane for liking this unknown metaliica....... > > > > > > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Sep 18 13:39:10 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:39:10 +0000 Subject: The Wright Stuff - Jason Stuart Tribute... Message-ID: well i am getting Knights of Space on CD and the DVD in the mail in a day or two so...... i'll pay my tribute that way! ObCD: H?sker D? "Zen Arcade" ----- Original Message ---- From: "StevePXR5 at AOL.COM" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 17 September, 2008 23:25:46 Subject: The Wright Stuff - Jason Stuart Tribute... Matthew Wright will be paying a tribute to Jason on his show tomorrow morning. It airs on Channel 5 at 9am to 10:30am. Steve. From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Thu Sep 18 23:08:45 2008 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:08:45 -0600 Subject: OFF: Re: Heaven and Hell In-Reply-To: <512953.93343.qm@web23006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >>>I played "Rusty Angels" by Sabbath on the radio in 2006 on a Xmas special >>>(I like Tony Martin's vocals alot Great song. I'm a big Tony Martin fan. He is the only singer Sabbath had that would sing anything from the Sabbath catelog, although I don't recall him ever singing anything from Born Again. Cross Purposes is my favorite album from that lineup. Brilliant. Brad From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 19 07:30:59 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:30:59 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: Speaking of monstrous vibe, did you ever pick up the reissued Spine of God? You know I'm not going to leave off until you do... :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Thursday, Sep 18, 2008 5:27 pm Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 18 Sep 2008, at 14:50 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: I borrowed _Accident of Birth_ from a friend a while after getting TCW, and though the band is the same and the sound is the same, and I can see how people would like it, it just doesn't have the whole Blake schtick which makes TCW so compelling. _Accident of Birth_ does not demand to have its artwork done as woodcuts and oils; TCW really does benefit from its concept to elevate the interest value of the music and words together, for me at least. AoB punches about the same weight, but doesn't have the style. So I thought anyway, yours, Yeah, I know what you mean. AOB is solid, but it doesn't transcend. TCW, though, is just laced with this monstrous _vibe_ that makes it as big as it should be. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Sep 19 08:53:33 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:53:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <3304654258.19689229@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 19 Sep 2008, at 06:30 , Steve Swann wrote: > Speaking of monstrous vibe, did you ever pick up the reissued Spine > of God? You know I'm not going to leave off until you do... :) I did! I got it just over a year ago, just before I left the UK. (I was pretty sure I wouldn't find a copy here in the local Bogota Tower Records .... ;)). Actually, I mentioned it briefly in an earlier eruption of the loudness wars discussion a few months ago, where I noted it does seem to be more compressed that the original CD issue, but the original CD issue also sounded like arse in various ways that the reissue doesn't, so I'm much happier with the new one. :) Ah, Monster Magnet .... They (or Wyndorf, or whoever) could kind of use a "comeback album" .... ;) I suggest a 50 minute album on which the tracks intersperse 6-8 minute HawkSabbath roar numbers with 3-4 minute pseudo-MCStooges songs, plus an accompanying EP that includes a 30-minute cover of The Spacious Mind's "Interplanetarian Lovemachine". Producing will be some mad Scandinavian who understands how to get a modern snap on a 70s dinosaur vibe. Sorted. :) Dunno how many copies it would move in the mainstream charts, but we could at least restore some dignity to the name. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 19 09:27:31 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:27:31 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: When I run the universe (scheduled for next week, though you know how these things tend to slip), I'm going to put you in charge of music development. (And you'll have to work closely with Dr. Mather, my Minister of Audio Engineering, on this damned compression issue.) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Sep 19, 2008 8:58 am Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 19 Sep 2008, at 06:30 , Steve Swann wrote: Speaking of monstrous vibe, did you ever pick up the reissued Spine of God? You know I'm not going to leave off until you do... :) I did! I got it just over a year ago, just before I left the UK. (I was pretty sure I wouldn't find a copy here in the local Bogota Tower Records .... ;)). Actually, I mentioned it briefly in an earlier eruption of the loudness wars discussion a few months ago, where I noted it does seem to be more compressed that the original CD issue, but the original CD issue also sounded like arse in various ways that the reissue doesn't, so I'm much happier with the new one. :) Ah, Monster Magnet .... They (or Wyndorf, or whoever) could kind of use a "comeback album" .... ;) I suggest a 50 minute album on which the tracks intersperse 6-8 minute HawkSabbath roar numbers with 3-4 minute pseudo-MCStooges songs, plus an accompanying EP that includes a 30-minute cover of The Spacious Mind's "Interplanetarian Lovemachine". Producing will be some mad Scandinavian who understands how to get a modern snap on a 70s dinosaur vibe. Sorted. :) Dunno how many copies it would move in the mainstream charts, but we could at least restore some dignity to the name. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Sep 19 11:16:48 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:16:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <3304661250.19964895@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 19 Sep 2008, at 08:27 , Steve Swann wrote: > When I run the universe (scheduled for next week, though you know > how these things tend to slip), I'm going to put you in charge of > music development. > (And you'll have to work closely with Dr. Mather, my Minister of > Audio Engineering, on this damned compression issue.) Sign me up! :) I ask only for an electric cattle prod to "encourage" recalcitrant musicians who think they know better than their (new) lords and masters. (Just because we are replacing the current music industry's hierarchy doesn't mean we can start letting musicians do whatever they want. ;) Inmates and the asylum and all that! ;)) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 19 12:21:58 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:21:58 +0000 Subject: HW: Knights of Space: first impressions Message-ID: I've listened to this cursory and didnt find it as bad as some people think, the sound is stellar I think, and the keyboard stuff isnt overdone IMO. The sound is fine, whats the problem? I enjoyed Dave's melodic singing on Robot and Tim Blakes poem... Orgone Accumulator is nice, and so is MotU - though I didnt like the piano on Paradox much, but it works on a symfo like manner I guess. Jason RIP. Mr. Dibs also does a good job on bass. Cool that they did some Ron stuff (the Alien stuff) Chr. NP: Mercury Rev "Deserter's Songs" ObCD: Faith No More "We Care Alot" From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 19 13:09:32 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:32 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: I think we should skip ALL evil satanic heavy metal discussions and go straight to the party where they play Beck "Mellow Gold" CD and watch "Cool World" with the soundtrack by The Cult..... who are more my cuppa coffee, i am an old softy I guess, apart from Voivod. Christian (SoFunkinWhatt) NP: "The Pary Goes On" from Kingston Wall - III Trilogy ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, 19 September, 2008 17:16:48 Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. On 19 Sep 2008, at 08:27 , Steve Swann wrote: > When I run the universe (scheduled for next week, though you know > how these things tend to slip), I'm going to put you in charge of > music development. > (And you'll have to work closely with Dr. Mather, my Minister of > Audio Engineering, on this damned compression issue.) Sign me up! :) I ask only for an electric cattle prod to "encourage" recalcitrant musicians who think they know better than their (new) lords and masters. (Just because we are replacing the current music industry's hierarchy doesn't mean we can start letting musicians do whatever they want. ;) Inmates and the asylum and all that! ;)) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 19 15:12:41 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:12:41 +0000 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball Message-ID: anybody see this hilarious movie??? Its probably the funniest thing i've seen in years. LOL NP: The White Stripes "Elephant" ObCD: The Chameleons "Tripping Dogs" ( bootleg ) From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 19 16:36:45 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:36:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Love Message-ID: what an awesome Brock tune!!!!!!!! cool. Christian the dude From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 19 17:47:03 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:47:03 +0000 Subject: HW: Knights of Space: first impressions Message-ID: i am really digging "Damnation Alley" and "Dreaming" in the middle of Orgone. Ah, great stuff! chr. ----- Original Message ---- From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Sent: Friday, 19 September, 2008 18:21:58 Subject: HW: Knights of Space: first impressions I've listened to this cursory and didnt find it as bad as some people think, the sound is stellar I think, and the keyboard stuff isnt overdone IMO. The sound is fine, whats the problem? I enjoyed Dave's melodic singing on Robot and Tim Blakes poem... Orgone Accumulator is nice, and so is MotU - though I didnt like the piano on Paradox much, but it works on a symfo like manner I guess. Jason RIP. Mr. Dibs also does a good job on bass. Cool that they did some Ron stuff (the Alien stuff) Chr. NP: Mercury Rev "Deserter's Songs" ObCD: Faith No More "We Care Alot" From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Sep 19 17:56:30 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:56:30 +0000 Subject: HW: singalong Sonic Attack & Welcome to the Future! Message-ID: c. i enjoyed those too on Knights Of Space............ really cool. c. ObCD: Pierre Moerlen's Gong "Arista Years" From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Sun Sep 21 11:47:15 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:47:15 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <482043.99124.qm@web23003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:32 +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote > I think we should skip ALL evil satanic heavy metal discussions and > go straight to the party where they play Beck "Mellow Gold" CD and > watch "Cool World" with the soundtrack by The Cult..... who are more > my cuppa coffee, i am an old softy I guess, apart from Voivod. Hmmm, I'd rather go to hell..... Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 21 12:19:39 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:19:39 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <20080921154623.M74325@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: LOL!!!! I'd throw my every single release by Black Sabbath and Judas Priest "20 feet into the neighbors yard" (a personal favorite saying) to keep my Trouble cds if necessary.... bring back eric (of course not that I have time for that, I'm too busy in the closet with my Hawkwind LP's I can't play....) yet again, LOL!!!! On 9/21/08, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:32 +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote > > I think we should skip ALL evil satanic heavy metal discussions and > > go straight to the party where they play Beck "Mellow Gold" CD and > > watch "Cool World" with the soundtrack by The Cult..... who are more > > my cuppa coffee, i am an old softy I guess, apart from Voivod. > > Hmmm, I'd rather go to hell..... > > Gr, > > Arjan H > > -------------------------------- > Rock in the 70ies: > substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 22 00:26:54 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:26:54 -0500 Subject: Dave Allen and Dave Brock 45 single THE LAST WORD Message-ID: On 9/11/08, Visionary Head wrote: > > I've never seen this before - is it really just Brocky or is it Hawkwind??? > > *when I bought this item the idea of a cover version never crossed my > mind.......I have just heard it through the phone, and it IS INDEED a cover > version, albeit a very wild one, and I have little doubt likely as rare as > they come......(not to mention as confusing as they come)* *Wilfried, I think you're going to be pretty happy with this....the guitars are WILD!!!!!!!!!!* * Now send me some Dave Allen material, somebody, all is not lost for me!!!!* * "may your god stay with you"* From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 22 09:22:55 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:22:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809210919h1a865006p49273c73f0e79187@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 21 Sep 2008, at 11:19 , mike coleman wrote: > my > Trouble cds if necessary.... > bring back eric Ah, Trouble! _Manic Frustration_ is my favorite of theirs, I think .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Sep 21 11:52:08 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:52:08 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: ----- Origina you will be welcome... welcome- TO HELL! Chr. ----- Original Message ---- From: Arjan Hulsebos To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sunday, 21 September, 2008 17:47:15 Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:09:32 +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote > I think we should skip ALL evil satanic heavy metal discussions and > go straight to the party where they play Beck "Mellow Gold" CD and > watch "Cool World" with the soundtrack by The Cult..... who are more > my cuppa coffee, i am an old softy I guess, apart from Voivod. Hmmm, I'd rather go to hell..... Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Sep 22 10:55:39 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:55:39 +0100 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 09:42:19PM +0100, Steve Freight typed out: > Just been watching this and have to say the more I hear OHWA the more I like > it. > > It was my fav track from TMTYL and if this had been a part of Electric > Teepee it would be hailed a classic. As it is, it is probably derided > because people seem anti TMTYL. > > It is to me one of my fav laid back tracks by the band and easily beats Blue > Shift etc. I also like this one, but I am a sucker for Alan's big synth chord washes of soft noise. It does however suffer from the `lounge jazz' break in the middle. I think my favourite of all Alan's HW synth pieces is indubitably `Elfin', which is just beautiful, but part of it is the way that it develops into `Silver Machine' on _Love in Space_. That's going to be one of the most valuable pieces of this supposed reissue program... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Sep 22 11:00:52 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:00:52 +0000 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: <20080922145538.GG23178@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: strange choice of words Jon, it's a 'reissue programme' ... that's what it is ... why 'supposed'? --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: From: Jonathan Jarrett Subject: Re: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 3:55 PM On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 09:42:19PM +0100, Steve Freight typed out: > Just been watching this and have to say the more I hear OHWA the more I like > it. > > It was my fav track from TMTYL and if this had been a part of Electric > Teepee it would be hailed a classic. As it is, it is probably derided > because people seem anti TMTYL. > > It is to me one of my fav laid back tracks by the band and easily beats Blue > Shift etc. I also like this one, but I am a sucker for Alan's big synth chord washes of soft noise. It does however suffer from the `lounge jazz' break in the middle. I think my favourite of all Alan's HW synth pieces is indubitably `Elfin', which is just beautiful, but part of it is the way that it develops into `Silver Machine' on _Love in Space_. That's going to be one of the most valuable pieces of this supposed reissue program... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 22 12:38:14 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:38:14 -0500 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: <128662.37480.qm@web26905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 22 Sep 2008, at 10:00 , Ian Abrahams wrote: > strange choice of words Jon, it's a 'reissue programme' ... that's > what it is ... why 'supposed'? Well, given the history Hawkwind universe -- awash with the best laid schemes of mice and thingygummies that have aft ganged agley -- one might be forgiven for tacking the word "supposed" or "intended" or similar in front of _everything_ until the output is actually in one's hot little hands! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 22 13:14:52 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:14:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/22/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: Ah, Trouble! _Manic Frustration_ is my favorite of theirs, I think .... *I don't have that yet!!!! but I will get it now!!! my collection ended in 1990 with the self-titled CD, as they took too long putting anything out and they had chaged gears a bit which threw me.....the 1st one PSALM 9 is a masterpiece IMHO......* *my usual longwinded stuff: I hung out with them in the hotel room, and my now discarded catholic friend (for being EVIL and FAKE) was disappointed that the singer was tending to his nostrils, and the the guitarist was trying to get his girfriend in the shower, but I had a blast, and the late drummed Barry Stern and I talked about Hawkwind* *he was a fan.......* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 22 13:34:44 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:34:44 -0500 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: <431F2E95-6A1A-4FD2-BC6A-F5E3131B29EC@carlaz.com> Message-ID: > > Carl sent through the ether: > Well, given the history Hawkwind universe -- awash with the best laid > schemes of mice and thingygummies that have aft ganged agley -- one might be > forgiven for tacking the word "supposed" or "intended" or similar in front > of _everything_ until the output is actually in one's hot little hands! ;) > I couldn't agree more, everything is tentative until provem > otherwise....also it looks to me like there is _another_ reissue program > under the surface, already in motion, to sell us the lower quality stuff yet > again..... > My friend Pierre simply WON'T HEAR Hawkwind unless it's vinyl, and I am about ready to join the rebellion, you know, for rebellion sake (oh no not money oh no), but speaking of Love In Space, if anybody has a cover with scrathed CD's please come forth..... From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Sep 22 16:52:51 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:52:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <154229.70130.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:22:48PM -0700, gary shindler typed out: > I remember thinking Judas Priest were a joke when I saw them with > Megadeth and Testament. Halford was stalking the stage like he was a > member of Run DMC (before he came out and left). I think their bass > player hid through the whole show. A little while ago, my brother bought me Judas Priest's _Painkiller_ as a birthday present. I... can see how people like it, but it makes me cringe with embarrassment except in a very unselfconscious mood. Drummer's excellent, though, in the style. Anyway, the thing is, Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, do you suppose? Yours, Jon ObCD: Space Ritual - _Otherworld_, which I only just got and which is confusing me by being not bad enough that I'm not entirely certain it might not be good. A terrible string of negatives, but I was truly expecting it to suck, and it fails to do so. More on this I expect... -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Sep 22 17:05:26 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:05:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <20080922205251.GI23178@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 9/22/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > \ A little while ago, my brother bought me Judas Priest's > _Painkiller_ as a birthday present. I... can see how people like it, but > it makes me cringe with embarrassment except in a very unselfconscious > mood. Drummer's excellent, though, in the style. Anyway, the thing is, > Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live > bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or > did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, > do you suppose? Yours, > Jon *before the great eruption and the fate worse than death, I bought (much of) Priest remastered stuff, and I tried to listen to something the other day, and I had to eject....Priest is just too silly-ish for me now, HOWEVER being that I need no human to tell me how to think, and that I usually think different to anything human, I must provide my usual strong opinion* *1) Judas Priest "Stained Class"....mandatory, classic, will not end up in neighbors parking space* *2) Black Sabbath "Sabbotage", as above, and "Never Say Die" sticks to my heart* *otherwise thank you for reminding me to play "Otherworld" again.....* *Nik is a god, and he works hard* ObCD: Space Ritual - _Otherworld_, which I only just got and which is > confusing me by being not bad enough that I'm not entirely certain it > might not be good. A terrible string of negatives, but I was truly > expecting it to suck, and it fails to do so. More on this I expect... > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Mon Sep 22 21:48:41 2008 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:48:41 -0600 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809221405y33435ca3ha60d643339b5435e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > *1) Judas Priest "Stained Class"....mandatory, classic, will not end up in > neighbors parking space* Amen. This is my all time favorite metal album. I love the songs, the production, the performances... not a weak link anywhere here. When it came out, I made a cassette of it and took it to Pacific Stereo in Covina, CA and put it on their best system in their listening room and spent the day there. The staff there finally made me leave when they realized this kid wasn't going to buy anything, even though I kept flashing my American Express card so they thought there was a chance. A desert island disc for me. > *2) Black Sabbath "Sabbotage", as above, and "Never Say Die" sticks to my > heart* Sabotage is my favorite Ozzy Sab album, even with the weak "Am I Going Insane" tune. I'm still trying to figure out how the singer in my first band pulled of "Symptom of the Universe". Must have been the cocaine. Brad, in Utah From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 23 01:04:03 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:04:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: *not a flaw in the below anywhere. when I was at dinner tonight I was thinking of that exact one weak link.* *I guess the sabbotage LP was one that wasn't so much reproducable live with my limited knowledge of the sabbath world and such. And agreed "best of those eras". I am unfamiliar with the incarnation with the singer that the embalmer mentioned, although I believe I saw that tour with Motorhead opening,* *Born Again is in my collection, a later edition and I am aware of the powers of Gillan and such* ** ** On 9/22/08, Brad Dahl wrote: > > *1) Judas Priest "Stained Class"....mandatory, classic, will not end up in >> neighbors parking space* >> > > Amen. This is my all time favorite metal album. I love the songs, the > production, the performances... not a weak link anywhere here. When it came > out, I made a cassette of it and took it to Pacific Stereo in Covina, CA and > put it on their best system in their listening room and spent the day there. > The staff there finally made me leave when they realized this kid wasn't > going to buy anything, even though I kept flashing my American Express card > so they thought there was a chance. A desert island disc for me. > > *2) Black Sabbath "Sabbotage", as above, and "Never Say Die" sticks to my >> heart* >> > > Sabotage is my favorite Ozzy Sab album, even with the weak "Am I Going > Insane" tune. I'm still trying to figure out how the singer in my first > band pulled of "Symptom of the Universe". Must have been the cocaine. > > Brad, in Utah > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 23 01:09:50 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:09:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809222204o4d51b4b1v250d127caeba53ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: wait a min.....Brad. Brad. awkward moment. don't I _know_ you!!!!!!! didn't I have YOUR records!!!!! On 9/23/08, mike coleman wrote: > > *not a flaw in the below anywhere. when I was at dinner tonight I was > thinking of that exact one weak link.* > *I guess the sabbotage LP was one that wasn't so much reproducable live > with my limited knowledge of the sabbath world and such. And agreed "best of > those eras". I am unfamiliar with the incarnation with the singer that the > embalmer mentioned, although I believe I saw that tour with Motorhead > opening,* > *Born Again is in my collection, a later edition and I am aware of the > powers of Gillan and such* > ** > ** > > > On 9/22/08, Brad Dahl wrote: >> >> *1) Judas Priest "Stained Class"....mandatory, classic, will not end up in >>> neighbors parking space* >>> >> >> Amen. This is my all time favorite metal album. I love the songs, the >> production, the performances... not a weak link anywhere here. When it came >> out, I made a cassette of it and took it to Pacific Stereo in Covina, CA and >> put it on their best system in their listening room and spent the day there. >> The staff there finally made me leave when they realized this kid wasn't >> going to buy anything, even though I kept flashing my American Express card >> so they thought there was a chance. A desert island disc for me. >> >> *2) Black Sabbath "Sabbotage", as above, and "Never Say Die" sticks to my >>> heart* >>> >> >> Sabotage is my favorite Ozzy Sab album, even with the weak "Am I Going >> Insane" tune. I'm still trying to figure out how the singer in my first >> band pulled of "Symptom of the Universe". Must have been the cocaine. >> >> Brad, in Utah >> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 23 02:05:57 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:05:57 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809222209hc01467cmd82b3f41963cb7a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: that would have been brad knox scuse me and now that memory is returned.....if anyone knows where he is...... On 9/23/08, mike coleman wrote: > > wait a min.....Brad. Brad. > awkward moment. don't I _know_ you!!!!!!! > didn't I have YOUR records!!!!! > > > > On 9/23/08, mike coleman wrote: >> >> *not a flaw in the below anywhere. when I was at dinner tonight I was >> thinking of that exact one weak link.* >> *I guess the sabbotage LP was one that wasn't so much reproducable live >> with my limited knowledge of the sabbath world and such. And agreed "best of >> those eras". I am unfamiliar with the incarnation with the singer that the >> embalmer mentioned, although I believe I saw that tour with Motorhead >> opening,* >> *Born Again is in my collection, a later edition and I am aware of the >> powers of Gillan and such* >> ** >> ** >> >> >> On 9/22/08, Brad Dahl wrote: >>> >>> *1) Judas Priest "Stained Class"....mandatory, classic, will not end up >>>> in >>>> neighbors parking space* >>>> >>> >>> Amen. This is my all time favorite metal album. I love the songs, the >>> production, the performances... not a weak link anywhere here. When it came >>> out, I made a cassette of it and took it to Pacific Stereo in Covina, CA and >>> put it on their best system in their listening room and spent the day there. >>> The staff there finally made me leave when they realized this kid wasn't >>> going to buy anything, even though I kept flashing my American Express card >>> so they thought there was a chance. A desert island disc for me. >>> >>> *2) Black Sabbath "Sabbotage", as above, and "Never Say Die" sticks to my >>>> heart* >>>> >>> >>> Sabotage is my favorite Ozzy Sab album, even with the weak "Am I Going >>> Insane" tune. I'm still trying to figure out how the singer in my first >>> band pulled of "Symptom of the Universe". Must have been the cocaine. >>> >>> Brad, in Utah >>> >> >> > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 23 03:18:59 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:18:59 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <4125CEB0-8C61-4EF2-B8A9-2531FD0EA440@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 04:20:15PM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > On 14 Sep 2008, at 15:25 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > >Other than > >Dunblane, it's hard to find any evidence of school shootings in the > >UK. > Though if there were, we could solve the problem by banning school > and letting people shoot each other in the great outdoors as the gods > surely intended. "I went and shot the maximum The game laws would allow: Seven hunters, two game-wardens And a cow." Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 23 04:38:26 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:38:26 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <200809151021.m8FALTBs000920@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:21:29AM +0100, M Holmes typed out: > Well, I think guns could help a lot with school bullying problems. I can't see how. The kids who carried out the Columbine massacre were victims of bullying with access to firearms for heavens' sake. If you're meaning that the bullied should have guns to protect themselves, I see two scenarios: one, Columbine, or two, bullies with a big pile of captured guns to further intimidate people with. That would only work if the bullied were *immediately*, first-time, willing to shoot somebody, otherwise the bullies learn that they won't and take their power away. And if they are so willing, they're probably not getting bullied anyway, because someone who fights back is not a natural victim. Meanwhile, if you mean that teachers should use firearms to prevent bullying, firstly what do the firearms get them that normal sanctions don't, here, unless the bullies also have guns and are threatening the teachers? Which is hardly the same scenario. And secondly, since bullying is by its nature mainly carried out where teachers aren't, it doesn't bring the `solution' anywhere near the problem. So yup: I really, really, don't agree, I think whatever you're suggesting here would be either ineffective and terrifying or downright and tragically disastrous. Possibly time to get back to Hawkwind, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Sep 23 05:26:07 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:26:07 +0200 Subject: OFF: Space Rock Message-ID: Hello Everyone! Just a quick announcement that my band, the all improvised space rock band, Oresund Space Collective, have our 4th CD out entitled "Inside your Head". We have two sample tracks up at myspace (link below) and you can buy the CD from our web site.. Thanks to some of you for checking out the band and supporting space rock! Now back to your regular Hawkwind, BOC channel.............. scott www.oresundspacecollective.com www.myspace.com/oresundspacecollective ObCD: Stone Oak Cosmonaut (holland) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 23 07:11:01 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:11:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:52:51 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 23 07:12:28 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:12:28 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:38:26 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 23 10:00:34 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:00:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 04:15:07PM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > Speaking of 80s metal and 70s metal and suchlike .... Of late, I have > quite enjoyed the new Grand Magus _Iron Will_ album. GM started as a > very doomy stoner band, and have steadily added what seem to be 80s- > ish power-metal influences; I wouldn't have predicted that working > for me, given my history of suspicion of 80s metal -- but it has! > They were a _good_ stoner-doom band back when they started, but > largely one of many. They've kept key elements of that sound, but > have rocked up the tempos, and the singer has something of a baritone > Dio-Gillan vibe rather than the usual stoner bawl. Plus, they're a > power trio with a Flying V and a Rickenbacker bass, so what's not to > like? :) I agree that they've actually become a pretty impressive band by dint of adding a bit more widdle, which isn't something I'd say of many groups :-) The singer is good, hell, they're all good but he can carry their `new direction'. None of this stops them being a little dull live unless they're having an absolutely perfect night, though. On a good night they are a grinding relentless machine of perfectly-timed doom, and on a band night they just go on without really getting the power up. I've never been quite sure whether to chance an album because of this... You think _Iron Will_ is a safe bet? Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 23 10:08:24 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:08:24 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <200809231112.m8NBCS9m021192@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: "Kill them all; God will know his own." Cheers, Carl, who has lost track of what this thread has to do with either Brock or _Captured Rotation_ (still a favorite of mine, despite the good Mr. Jarrett's concerns about the doings of the archaeopteryxes :)) -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 23 10:14:54 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:14:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 22 Sep 2008, at 20:48 , Brad Dahl wrote: > I'm still trying to figure out how the singer in my first band > pulled of "Symptom of the Universe". Must have been the cocaine. I'm presuming that's the only way Ozzy managed it. ;) Sepultura did a solid cover of SotU in what is now back in the day, though I was always disappointed that Max didn't tackle the "clean sung" bit at the end; it was just a vocal-less acoustic outro in their version. And there is, of course, the marvelous medieval Latin re-imagination of the track as "Symptoma Mundi" by Rondellus, which is virtually a cappella. (Whenever I listen to it, I keep waiting for them to break into a little frame-drum groove or something, but of course it never happens ....) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 23 10:20:02 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:20:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809221014m46598b19ud91f0693c6472c13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 22 Sep 2008, at 12:14 , mike coleman wrote: > On 9/22/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> Ah, Trouble! _Manic Frustration_ is my favorite of theirs, I >> think .... > > > *I don't have that yet!!!! but I will get it now!!! I do recommend _Manic Frustration_. Solid stuff throughout, IMO, and the slide into the chorus from Donovan's "Atlantis" at the end is just an added bonus. I don't think the follow-up (and effective swan-song) _Plastic Green Head_ is as highly regarded, and truly the original songs are not as strong that go around -- but I will always enjoy it even if only for the _awesome_ cover of "Porpoise Song" (from the Monkees' _Head_ soundtrack). There's a cover of "Tomorrow Never Knows", too, which is actually pretty great, but I think eclipsed by "Porpoise Song". (Though I have always been a not-very-closet Monkees fan. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Sep 23 11:11:47 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:11:47 +0200 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <76C785D9-C355-4ABB-AFB3-CDAFE5A97A9C@carlaz.com> Message-ID: > Carl, who has lost track of what this thread has to do with either > Brock or _Captured Rotation_ (still a favorite of mine, despite the > good Mr. Jarrett's concerns about the doings of the archaeopteryxes > :)) But that's the beauty of BOC-L. You start reading a thead, and you only have to look away for a second. When you return, the thread has wandered off into the deep surreal. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 23 11:41:25 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:41:25 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <20080923140034.GD16017@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: I got the fever for more Rickenbacker bass... ? Gary? From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 23 11:43:27 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:43:27 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <20080923140034.GD16017@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 23 Sep 2008, at 09:00 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > You think _Iron Will_ is a safe bet? I really like _Iron Will_ -- such as I've heard it, which is only in the form of some dodgy MP3s (since gods know that no shops down 'ere carry Grand Magus!). It was recommended to me, and I thought, "Mmm, Grand Magus? I kinda remember them. Well, OK, I'll give it a listen I guess ...". But, somewhat to my surprise, it really clicked with me. Not that I've heard lots of new releases from 2008, but _Iron Will_ is certainly a winner among them in my book. Your mileage may vary, but I'd give it a go. I mean, it _might_ just be me. After all, if someone told me "You should listen to a Swedish, Viking-obsessed, power-doom trio armed with Gibsons and Rickenbackers", I'd be forced to answer "Well, OBVIOUSLY I should listen to that!". :) Luckily, I continue feeling like I should listen to it again and again, too. ("It's much better than _Cats_ ....") I think there are a bunch of good tracks on the album, but for a quick taster I'd check out lead-off "Like the Oar Strikes the Water", and then "The Shadow Knows" (which is actually the most "80s metal" of the tracks, I think -- though if all 80s metal were like that, I'd like 80s metal rather more than I do!). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 23 11:44:56 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:44:56 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <32463850-1AFA-484F-A63E-3F9940EB2DFC@carlaz.com> Message-ID: When I saw Slayer on "Seasons of the Abyss" tour their intro music was "Symptom." I couldn't survive the pit during Testament and had to watch Slayer from the back of the hall. "Symptom" has to be one of Sabbath's best songs... Gary?? From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Sep 23 13:11:55 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:11:55 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK/OEBs: More links of yore and present: Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK links of yore: http://www.ilike.com/artist/Sloterdijk ( SLOTERDIJK on ILike )http://www.strange-trips.com/docs/sd99.htm ( Strange Daze 99 festival review, reprinted from 'Progression Magazine' )http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue13/slotdijk.html (Aural-Innovations review of 'Integration CD ) http://www.lollipopshop.de/artists/sloterdijk01.html(description of Integration CD, from Lollipop shop records, Berlin Germany )http://www.progressive-newsletter.de/index_e.htm ( Sloterdijk review, German only )http://www.germanrock.de/zeitung/sonderausgabe_2/hawkfan_2000/index.htm( Review of North German Hawkfan Festival 2000; German only )http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue16/slotdij1.html( Aural Innovations, Review and Interview 2001 : Uranium Zone CD ) http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/May2001/sloter.html (Zeitgeist, review of Uranium Zone CD ) http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue29/slotdij4.html ( Aural Innovations Review of Pemaf CD 2004 ) http://www.prnewsnow.com/Public_Release/Music/59220.html( Press release about Harvey Bainbridge ( Hawkwind ) 'Clouds over Titan tour' )http://s14.zetaboards.com/Zeitgeist/topic/124400/1/#post1106( Zeigeist review of 'Beware the Charlatans' CD )http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue20/slotdij3.html (Aural Innovation review of 'Beware the Charlatans CD 2002 )http://www.citypaper.net/articles/121400/mus.space.shtml ( Philadelphia City Paper article about Sloterdijk ) http://progressive.homestead.com/holland.html#anchor_64 ( Dutch progressive music review of Integration CD )https://www.eurock.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=1091 ( Eurock description of Integration CD )http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/10/prweb167767.htm (Press release for 2004 New Jersey show )http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/8/prweb151096.htm ( article 'Hawk winds over New Jersey' about NIk Turner 2004 tour )http://tdfanszone.soundfuturesdirect.com/tdfz_radioshow.html (Tangerine Dream Fanzone broadcast and list of bands etc )http://www.prlog.org/10012318-hawkwind-inspired-spacerockers-sloterdijk-to-perform-rare-new-york-new-jersey-concerts.htm( Press release for 'Ring Shaped Nodule' shows )http://www.bluesmatters.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=48 (OEB UK Tour 2003; article from 'Blues Matters' Magazine )http://cellsum.com/atlanticcity.htm (Outrageous pics from The Brain Surgeons/One Eyed Bishops show in Atlantic City 2003 ) http://nachofoto.com/photo-of-sloterdijk-A4d1a9a2e3637 (nachphoto )http://www.prlog.org/10089060-iowa-punkers-to-bill-with-classic-rockers-in-trenton.html(Press release for 2008 OEB show)http://www.prnewsnow.com/Public_Release/Music/47614.html(Press release for 'One Eyed Assassins show 2005' ( Hawkwind tribute performance ) _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 23 13:59:12 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:59:12 -0700 Subject: Deborah left Brain Surgeons? Message-ID: Cellsum Records website says Deborah Frost left the Brain Surgeons. Are the Brain Surgeons over? Gary From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Sep 23 15:12:20 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:12:20 -0500 Subject: Deborah left Brain Surgeons? In-Reply-To: <747118.92415.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 23 Sep 2008, at 12:59 , gary shindler wrote: > Cellsum Records website says Deborah Frost left the Brain Surgeons. > Are the Brain Surgeons over? I have been operating under the assumption for the past year or more that tBS is effectively on "permanent hiatus". Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From steve.bishop at DB.COM Wed Sep 24 02:18:19 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:18:19 +0100 Subject: Make What You Can ? In-Reply-To: <948BBD30-53AA-42F8-8C12-5366C823530D@carlaz.com> Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnHxaNG71t8 What a great track - how come it wasn't on Space Ritual ? Anyone know much about this track cos don't recall seeing it anywhere else ? Have they performed it live since ? Steve --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From steve.bishop at DB.COM Wed Sep 24 02:20:35 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:20:35 +0100 Subject: DB with make-up ? In-Reply-To: <948BBD30-53AA-42F8-8C12-5366C823530D@carlaz.com> Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPS0ATZw8LQ Not one of Daves better fashion statements ................... --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Sep 24 03:49:51 2008 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:49:51 +0100 Subject: Make What You Can ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bloomin heck it's brilliant. says its on text of festival - well that means i've got it, whoohoo, i'll be able to play it again and again and again and again. just goes to show how long since i tried playing that album... excellent Iain Steve Bishop wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnHxaNG71t8 > > What a great track - how come it wasn't on Space Ritual ? Anyone know much > about this track cos don't recall seeing it anywhere else ? Have they > performed it live since ? > > Steve > > --- > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly > forbidden. > > Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional > EU corporate and regulatory disclosures.= > > From steve.bishop at DB.COM Wed Sep 24 06:37:49 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:37:49 +0100 Subject: Make What You Can ? In-Reply-To: <48D9F11F.8020406@aol.com> Message-ID: Think it's only on Weird Tapes Vol 6, no listing for it on ToF .................. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Sep 24 07:39:21 2008 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:39:21 +0100 Subject: Make What You Can ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I believe that song was originally recorded at Rockfield in 1972 during the sessions for the Doremi album but there wasn't time to finish it. > Think it's only on Weird Tapes Vol 6, no listing for it on ToF > .................. > > --- > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you > are > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > strictly > forbidden. > > Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for > additional > EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. ----------------------------------------- This email was sent from supanet.com. http://www.supanet.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 24 08:02:17 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:02:17 -0500 Subject: DB with make-up ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/24/08, Steve Bishop wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPS0ATZw8LQ without a look yet, with my slow pc and I am not sure if I am up yet, Dave had his eyes painted black on the fairly rare Bronze promo videos...... I think I miss those the most of all my videos.....he looks freaky for sure!!!! (on those) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 24 08:20:58 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:20:58 -0500 Subject: Make What You Can ? In-Reply-To: <2c491acb8d5ad427e860d79c7387710d.squirrel@webmail.supanet.com> Message-ID: OMHFG!!!! I'm awake now, VIDEO of MWYC????? holy sh$t...... I am very confused why the other gentlemen would think this ever had a thing to do with TOF....... On 9/24/08, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > I believe that song was originally recorded at Rockfield in 1972 during > the sessions for the Doremi album but there wasn't time to finish it. > > > Think it's only on Weird Tapes Vol 6, no listing for it on ToF > > .................. > > > > --- > > > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If > you > > are > > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > > notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized > > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is > > strictly > > forbidden. > > > > Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for > > additional > > EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This email was sent from supanet.com. > http://www.supanet.com/ > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Sep 24 08:28:04 2008 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:28:04 +0100 Subject: Make What You Can ? In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809240520q4b81c02bk946aa4ed2d8f2a0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi , i'll explain, on the You Tube site, they seem to sugggest that its available on TOF - i didn't believe it, but as i am not near the record at this time, i was being positive.. Steve et al have correctly stated that it isn't .... Cheers iain mike coleman wrote: > OMHFG!!!! I'm awake now, VIDEO of MWYC????? > holy sh$t...... > I am very confused why the other gentlemen would think this ever had a thing > to do with TOF....... > > > On 9/24/08, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > >> I believe that song was originally recorded at Rockfield in 1972 during >> the sessions for the Doremi album but there wasn't time to finish it. >> >> >>> Think it's only on Weird Tapes Vol 6, no listing for it on ToF >>> .................. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If >>> >> you >> >>> are >>> not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please >>> notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized >>> copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is >>> strictly >>> forbidden. >>> >>> Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for >>> additional >>> EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. >>> >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> This email was sent from supanet.com. >> http://www.supanet.com/ >> >> > > From steve.bishop at DB.COM Wed Sep 24 08:37:49 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:37:49 +0100 Subject: Make What You Can ? In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809240520q4b81c02bk946aa4ed2d8f2a0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sadly no video of the track, just a spaced out freaky coloured version of the BBC Silver Machine film with the audio track laid over the top .............. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 24 09:22:42 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:22:42 -0500 Subject: Make What You Can ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/24/08, Steve Bishop wrote: > > Sadly no video of the track, just a spaced out freaky coloured version of > the > BBC Silver Machine film with the audio track laid over the top > .............. > > good afternoon you 2, yes I just finished, and while it's always a treat > for me to see Simon behind the kit, I was disappointed at yet another > youtube patch job, and my comment is "what a mess", if I had a hangover it > might not be unlike being in a pink polkadotted place and I'd likely > vomit....... speaking of TOF, it's being regurgitated again, does anybody know if the missing side is picked up yet, if not I must steal a car, grab the judas priest and start mowing bodies...... From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Sep 24 01:54:05 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:54:05 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: I loe Rondellus' version of "War Pigs"by Rondellus is awesome , my fave song of their CD! "Atlantis" by Donovan was a staple at parties at our house when I was a student way back in the early 90s when we were peaking hour meeting in the Trip Room on Acid! Hawkwind was always played too. Yawn Its morning and I got high two days ago. Someone gave me a gram of hash y'see. Christian ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008 16:14:54 Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. On 22 Sep 2008, at 20:48 , Brad Dahl wrote: > I'm still trying to figure out how the singer in my first band > pulled of "Symptom of the Universe". Must have been the cocaine. I'm presuming that's the only way Ozzy managed it. ;) Sepultura did a solid cover of SotU in what is now back in the day, though I was always disappointed that Max didn't tackle the "clean sung" bit at the end; it was just a vocal-less acoustic outro in their version. And there is, of course, the marvelous medieval Latin re-imagination of the track as "Symptoma Mundi" by Rondellus, which is virtually a cappella. (Whenever I listen to it, I keep waiting for them to break into a little frame-drum groove or something, but of course it never happens ....) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Sep 24 14:15:39 2008 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:15:39 EDT Subject: DB with make-up ? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/24/2008 8:04:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: Skeleton suit?? **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Sep 24 14:49:14 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:49:14 +0000 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: <431F2E95-6A1A-4FD2-BC6A-F5E3131B29EC@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Hi Carl, ? :)? Yes, I got the reference really, but this is a big label paying real money to get these albums out into the world again so we can all breathe easy on these - they'll be happening! ? Ian --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: From: Carl Edlund Anderson Subject: Re: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:38 PM On 22 Sep 2008, at 10:00 , Ian Abrahams wrote: > strange choice of words Jon, it's a 'reissue programme' ... that's > what it is ... why 'supposed'? Well, given the history Hawkwind universe -- awash with the best laid schemes of mice and thingygummies that have aft ganged agley -- one might be forgiven for tacking the word "supposed" or "intended" or similar in front of _everything_ until the output is actually in one's hot little hands! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 24 14:51:37 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:51:37 -0500 Subject: DB with make-up ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/24/08, Stewartbas at aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/24/2008 8:04:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: > > Dave > had his eyes painted black on the fairly rare Bronze promo videos...... > I think I miss those the most of all my videos.....he looks freaky for > sure!!!! (on those)> > > Skeleton suit?? *I don't recall seeing dave in Entwhistle's garb (is that spelled right), however I swear I don't have dave's t here in dallas..........* *but by george, I agree!!!* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Sep 24 14:54:54 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:54:54 -0500 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: <914961.30229.qm@web26906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Ian, seeing as you are rather "heavy" in the wind, please oversee that proposed box sets and vinyl become concrete foundations in the long-term plan that surely is happening... On 9/24/08, Ian Abrahams wrote: > > Hi Carl, > > :) Yes, I got the reference really, but this is a big label paying real > money to get these albums out into the world again so we can all breathe > easy on these - they'll be happening! > > Ian > > --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > Subject: Re: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:38 PM > > On 22 Sep 2008, at 10:00 , Ian Abrahams wrote: > > strange choice of words Jon, it's a 'reissue programme' ... > that's > > what it is ... why 'supposed'? > > > > Well, given the history Hawkwind universe -- awash with the best laid > schemes of mice and thingygummies that have aft ganged agley -- one > might be forgiven for tacking the word "supposed" or > "intended" or > similar in front of _everything_ until the output is actually in > one's hot little hands! ;) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Sep 24 15:09:36 2008 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:09:36 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, do you suppose? At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were judged against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury and Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). Halford began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for Vengeance, which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series of 'Hit' singles and continuous radio play. One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy of Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to bottom) REO Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix sold for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees F and inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management saw NO reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place went completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he was dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's why my friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised when RH came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole persona to the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of up and coming heavy metal acts. I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same stage setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his voice back or was it just trickery. Anyway it was a fantastic show. Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't end till around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, very, very nicely. Message-ID: stained class + killing machine=a nice pair british steal helps with the comedown jmo On 9/24/08, Stewartbas at aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live > bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or > did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, > do you suppose? > At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were > judged > against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury and > Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). Halford > began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for > Vengeance, > which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series of > 'Hit' > singles and continuous radio play. > One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy of > Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to bottom) > REO > Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. > It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix sold > for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees > F and > inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management > saw NO > reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place went > completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he was > dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's why > my > friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised when > RH > came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole persona > to > the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of up > and coming heavy metal acts. > I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same stage > setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, > strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. > I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his > voice back or was it just trickery. > Anyway it was a fantastic show. > Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't > end till > around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, > very, very > nicely. > > > > > > I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I think he > may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's been > hindering > his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. > > bill s > ny > > > > > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Sep 24 15:36:31 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:36:31 -0700 Subject: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East ? --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, do you suppose? At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were judged against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury and Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). Halford began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for Vengeance, which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series of 'Hit' singles and continuous radio play. One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy of Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to bottom) REO Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix sold for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees F and inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management saw NO reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place went completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he was dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's why my friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised when RH came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole persona to the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of up and coming heavy metal acts. I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same stage setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his voice back or was it just trickery. Anyway it was a fantastic show. Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't end till around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, very, very nicely. Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 09:00:40AM +0000, Colin Allen typed out: > The Farflung album is excellent; hearing it has made me dig out my other Farflung CDs and I have fallen in love with The Belief Module all over again. > ? > The Kosmische gig was ok; it was all rather badly organised but the guys played an excellent set. A Litmus/Farflung double bill is clearly what is now required. With an *immense* `Raven Jam' as the encore. Ah, pleasant hope, etc., yours, Jon n/p: Gong - _Wingful of Eyes_ (hmm. oh well) -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 25 01:27:39 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:27:39 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: at the realisation of the risk of pushing the mc nausea factor and fully aware I am likely contributing nothing, bill I enjoyed that read, since you got one or two on me...... in reality, they took jimi (those monkees knew what was up didn't they), so we took priest. they really belong to us in a way...or did, er, yaknow..... as you stated below, by the time screaming for vengeance was out, I ended up at the show by default, and sure enough every single last person was up on their feet for the entire show, and resultantly, I SAW nothing........ BTW, i now see "am I going insane" as a highlight and a strong point for sabotage, even a cool drum echo-ee thing going on, and demonic wail is priceless...... you see, sabbath ripped "master of the universe" title so I was THRILLED to get a HW track titled "Hole In The Sky", my absolute favorite....... On 9/24/08, Stewartbas at aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live > bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or > did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, > do you suppose? > At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were > judged > against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury and > Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). Halford > began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for > Vengeance, > which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series of > 'Hit' > singles and continuous radio play. > One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy of > Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to bottom) > REO > Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. > It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix sold > for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees > F and > inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management > saw NO > reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place went > completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he was > dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's why > my > friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised when > RH > came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole persona > to > the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of up > and coming heavy metal acts. > I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same stage > setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, > strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. > I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his > voice back or was it just trickery. > Anyway it was a fantastic show. > Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't > end till > around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, > very, very > nicely. > > > > > > I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I think he > may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's been > hindering > his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. > > bill s > ny > > > > > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 25 08:38:14 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:38:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <604055.94209.qm@web23006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Christian,Sounds like fun parties. We don't get hash over here anymore. Don't worry, you'll come down, next week, haha, just kidding. I'll bet you're straightened out now after a long sleep. Next time you can give the hash to me,, just kidding. Take care. Fly safely, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:54 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. I loe Rondellus' version of "War Pigs"by Rondellus is awesome , my fave song of their CD! "Atlantis" by Donovan was a staple at parties at our house when I was a student way back in the early 90s when we were peaking hour meeting in the Trip Room on Acid! Hawkwind was always played too. Yawn Its morning and I got high two days ago. Someone gave me a gram of hash y'see. Christian ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008 16:14:54 Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. On 22 Sep 2008, at 20:48 , Brad Dahl wrote: > I'm still trying to figure out how the singer in my first band > pulled of "Symptom of the Universe". Must have been the cocaine. I'm presuming that's the only way Ozzy managed it. ;) Sepultura did a solid cover of SotU in what is now back in the day, though I was always disappointed that Max didn't tackle the "clean sung" bit at the end; it was just a vocal-less acoustic outro in their version. And there is, of course, the marvelous medieval Latin re-imagination of the track as "Symptoma Mundi" by Rondellus, which is virtually a cappella. (Whenever I listen to it, I keep waiting for them to break into a little frame-drum groove or something, but of course it never happens ....) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 25 10:02:11 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:02:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/25/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hey Christian,Sounds like fun parties. We don't get hash over here > anymore. Don't worry, you'll come down, next week, haha, just kidding. I'll > bet you're straightened out now after a long sleep. Next time you can give > the hash to me,, just kidding. Take care. > > nanobot swarms on the wall > clocking all that you're saying > there's a bug in the hall > so there's no use in praying. > They've invaded your home. > They've invaded your privacy. > You thought you were alone > but there's always the microphone > listening in - before you begin > it's all on file. > > While you wait in the queue > hanging round in the foyer > there's a lens fixed on you > (no it's not paranoia.) > It's a steel toothed comb > like the ones used for head-lice tests. > You can tell by the tone: > hollow echoing on the phone. > It's all on tape - > your voice-print's wave shape. > It's stored on file. > > There's a sign on the door: > The Department of Secrets - > And in there there's yours, > all your hopes and your regrets. > They've invaded your home. > They've invaded your privacy. > You thought you were alone > but there's always the microphone > listening in - before you begin > it's all on file. > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 25 10:51:16 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:51:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:22:55AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > On 21 Sep 2008, at 11:19 , mike coleman wrote: > >my Trouble cds if necessary.... > >bring back eric > > Ah, Trouble! _Manic Frustration_ is my favorite of theirs, I think .... Now I saw them at this year's Roadburn, and they were a very odd band. Some tracks absolutely rocked, and some were terribly terribly stale and weak retread stuff. I mean, I was alternately going "this lot are DULL, I'm going after this track" and then "hey, this is f-in' ace" and then "what happened? Where did the good stuff go?" In the end I went to see a Peruvian band called La Ira de Dios who were much much more my thing, like a very angry red-hot version of `Brainstorm' done by a metal band for most of a set. But Trouble, they had quality control issues the like of which only Hawkwind have ever rivalled IMO. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 25 11:28:07 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:28:07 +0100 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: <431F2E95-6A1A-4FD2-BC6A-F5E3131B29EC@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:38:14AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > On 22 Sep 2008, at 10:00 , Ian Abrahams wrote: > >strange choice of words Jon, it's a 'reissue programme' ... that's > >what it is ... why 'supposed'? > > Well, given the history Hawkwind universe -- awash with the best laid > schemes of mice and thingygummies that have aft ganged agley -- one > might be forgiven for tacking the word "supposed" or "intended" or > similar in front of _everything_ until the output is actually in > one's hot little hands! ;) This was basically the thrust of my scepticism, yes. Is it out yet? Then Dave, Doug, Beaky, Mick or Titch could still manage to scupper it somehow... But more seriously, the economics of this suggest to me that we'll be lucky to see _Love in Space_ any time soon. I can't imagine that Cherry Red are actually going to re-release everything from ASAM to DH all at once. The vast investment involved in getting that all ready before you've sold any copies would be beyond the reach of all but the hugest labels, and then you'd see very little return for a long while, because the shops would be swamped with slow-moving product. And we know the product is slow-moving, because the EMI remasters were still around--are still around, a few--in shops years after pressing, and those are the maximum-selling albums surely, or all but. So the revenue stream for this is not large. Look at B?C, with fewer albums, still struggling to break even in the course of a year or two even with their most popular albums. HW probably have a bigger buying public still, but that doesn't guarantee much market placement against the latest round of cheaper Head of Dave Anderson reissues. So they'll release a few at a time, and they'll be the well-known ones first, ASAM, QS&C, 25YO (please!), _Levitation_, _Palace Springs_, _Xenon Codex_... The EBS stuff must be way down the line, and LiS almost last in that line. If the project is still running by then, despite revenues that I bet will disappoint the Cherry Red execs, I'll be very pleasantly surprised. That's all, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 25 11:37:05 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:37:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: Space Rock In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922639A52A6@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:26:07AM +0200, SHLL (Scott Heller) typed out: > Just a quick announcement that my band, the all improvised space rock > band, Oresund Space Collective, have our 4th CD out entitled "Inside > your Head". We have two sample tracks up at myspace (link below) and > you can buy the CD from our web site.. Thanks to some of you for > checking out the band and supporting space rock! Fourth! Good heavens man. I seem not to have heard about the second or third at that rate... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 25 12:05:32 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:05:32 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <501158.88710.qm@web23007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: the lyrics were posted in response to mary, NOT you, they are traceable to "hump on your back" in a haphazzard fashion, please leave me out of your blame or wrath, and I changed a few words only so as not to copyright infringe on the good Aural Innovations site where they can be located... On 9/25/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > I'd rather listen to Simple Minds "Don't You Forget About Me" which is NP > on my MP3 player. Next up is Sisters Of Mercy "No Time To Cry" - if it hadnt > been for me we wouldnt have such songs that tell the greatest truths - > > so tell me Mike Coleman: where are the lyrics you posted from? Its about > what they are exploiting me and I know its intentional harrassment. > > Christian the harrassed > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, 25 September, 2008 16:02:11 > Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. > > On 9/25/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > Hey Christian,Sounds like fun parties. We don't get hash over here > > anymore. Don't worry, you'll come down, next week, haha, just kidding. > I'll > > bet you're straightened out now after a long sleep. Next time you can > give > > the hash to me,, just kidding. Take care. > > > > nanobot swarms on the wall > > clocking all that you're saying > > there's a bug in the hall > > so there's no use in praying. > > They've invaded your home. > > They've invaded your privacy. > > You thought you were alone > > but there's always the microphone > > listening in - before you begin > > it's all on file. > > > > While you wait in the queue > > hanging round in the foyer > > there's a lens fixed on you > > (no it's not paranoia.) > > It's a steel toothed comb > > like the ones used for head-lice tests. > > You can tell by the tone: > > hollow echoing on the phone. > > It's all on tape - > > your voice-print's wave shape. > > It's stored on file. > > > > There's a sign on the door: > > The Department of Secrets - > > And in there there's yours, > > all your hopes and your regrets. > > They've invaded your home. > > They've invaded your privacy. > > You thought you were alone > > but there's always the microphone > > listening in - before you begin > > it's all on file. > > > > > > > From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Sep 25 12:34:53 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:34:53 +0000 Subject: HW: Bob Calvert - 'Freq' Message-ID: Haven't seen it mentioned much on either Hawkwind list, but Atomhenge (Cherry Red) are about to reissue Bob Calvert's 'Freq' album (29th September release date I believe). I've done the booklet notes for this one and there's some great photos of Bob taken by Oz Hardwick in the package. ? Ian From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 25 13:27:04 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:27:04 -0500 Subject: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording In-Reply-To: <291561.8050.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: yes this does mess up my nice pair now doesn't it?? a nice trio thanks for pointing out that we have another case of the space ritual going on here as far as live recordings go.... On 9/24/08, gary shindler wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East > > > --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: > > From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM > Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM > > In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live > > bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or > did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, > do you suppose? > At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were > judged > against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury and > Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). Halford > began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for > Vengeance, > > which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series of > 'Hit' > singles and continuous radio play. > One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy of > Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to bottom) > REO > Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. > It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix sold > for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees > F and > inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management > saw NO > reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place went > completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he was > dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's why > my > friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised when > RH > came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole > persona to > the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of > up > and coming heavy metal acts. > I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same stage > setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, > strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. > I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his > voice back or was it just trickery. > Anyway it was a fantastic show. > Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't end > till > around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, very, > very > nicely. > > > > > > I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I think he > > may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's > been hindering > his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. > > bill s > ny > > > > > > > > > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and > calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > > > From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Thu Sep 25 13:32:29 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:32:29 +0200 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: <20080925152807.GH11619@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:28:07 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote > But more seriously, the economics of this > suggest to me that we'll be lucky to see _Love in Space_ any time > soon. I can't imagine that Cherry Red are actually going to re- > release everything from ASAM to DH all at once. The vast investment > involved in getting that all ready before you've sold any copies > would be beyond the reach of all but the hugest labels, and then > you'd see very little return for a long while, because the shops > would be swamped with slow-moving product. And we know the product > is slow-moving, because the EMI remasters were still around--are > still around, a few--in shops years after pressing, and those are > the maximum-selling albums surely, or all but. Depends. They might offer it as lossless downloads. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Thu Sep 25 16:31:26 2008 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:31:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. In-Reply-To: <20080925145116.GG11619@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:22:55AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > >> On 21 Sep 2008, at 11:19 , mike coleman wrote: >> >>> my Trouble cds if necessary.... >>> bring back eric >>> >> Ah, Trouble! _Manic Frustration_ is my favorite of theirs, I think .... >> > > Now I saw them at this year's Roadburn, and they were a very odd > band. Some tracks absolutely rocked, and some were terribly terribly > stale and weak retread stuff. I mean, I was alternately going "this lot > are DULL, I'm going after this track" and then "hey, this is f-in' ace" > and then "what happened? Where did the good stuff go?" In the end I went > to see a Peruvian band called La Ira de Dios who were much much more my > thing, like a very angry red-hot version of `Brainstorm' done by a metal > band for most of a set. But Trouble, they had quality control issues the > like of which only Hawkwind have ever rivalled IMO. Yours, > La Ira de Dios. I picked up Archaeopterix on vinyl from Aural Innovations a while back. I'd love to see them live. I haven't been keeping up with things as much as I should ever since Jerry had to give up selling music - guess I should've spent more :) . I'm glad he still does the radio shows and zine so I can keep somewhat up to date on new music ...speaking of which, it's probably been a few months since I checked the site out, better head over now. From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Sep 25 16:47:34 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:47:34 -0700 Subject: Fear of God? In-Reply-To: <48DBF51E.1060005@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: On the 80s/90s metal tip: anybody listen to Fear of God? I remember first seeing their video on Headbangers Ball. ? http://www.fear-of-god.com/ ? --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Jerry G wrote: From: Jerry G Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 3:31 PM Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 08:22:55AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > >> On 21 Sep 2008, at 11:19 , mike coleman wrote: >> >>> my Trouble cds if necessary.... >>> bring back eric >>> >> Ah, Trouble! _Manic Frustration_ is my favorite of theirs, I think .... >> > > Now I saw them at this year's Roadburn, and they were a very odd > band. Some tracks absolutely rocked, and some were terribly terribly > stale and weak retread stuff. I mean, I was alternately going "this lot > are DULL, I'm going after this track" and then "hey, this is f-in' ace" > and then "what happened? Where did the good stuff go?" In the end I went > to see a Peruvian band called La Ira de Dios who were much much more my > thing, like a very angry red-hot version of `Brainstorm' done by a metal > band for most of a set. But Trouble, they had quality control issues the > like of which only Hawkwind have ever rivalled IMO. Yours, > La Ira de Dios. I picked up Archaeopterix on vinyl from Aural Innovations a while back. I'd love to see them live. I haven't been keeping up with things as much as I should ever since Jerry had to give up selling music - guess I should've spent more :) . I'm glad he still does the radio shows and zine so I can keep somewhat up to date on new music ...speaking of which, it's probably been a few months since I checked the site out, better head over now. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 25 17:41:15 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:41:15 +0100 Subject: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording In-Reply-To: <291561.8050.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <17d80c610809251027w34d31098v8e853e51ba4ddc3f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: never mind about judas priest...i need a lift to herne bay from brighton on sunday...mine has fallen through ooer trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:27 PM To: Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording > yes this does mess up my nice pair now doesn't it?? > a nice trio > thanks for pointing out that we have another case of the space ritual > going > on here as far as live recordings go.... > > > On 9/24/08, gary shindler wrote: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East >> >> >> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: >> >> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM >> Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM >> >> In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: >> >> Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live >> >> bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or >> did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, >> do you suppose? >> At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were >> judged >> against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury >> and >> Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). >> Halford >> began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for >> Vengeance, >> >> which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series of >> 'Hit' >> singles and continuous radio play. >> One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy of >> Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to bottom) >> REO >> Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. >> It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix >> sold >> for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees >> F and >> inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management >> saw NO >> reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place >> went >> completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he >> was >> dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's >> why >> my >> friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised when >> RH >> came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole >> persona to >> the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of >> up >> and coming heavy metal acts. >> I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same >> stage >> setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, >> strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. >> I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his >> voice back or was it just trickery. >> Anyway it was a fantastic show. >> Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't end >> till >> around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, very, >> very >> nicely. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >> I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I think >> he >> >> may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's >> been hindering >> his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. >> >> bill s >> ny >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >> tips >> and >> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >> >> >> >> >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Sep 25 20:00:39 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:00:39 -0500 Subject: Astoria 2006 DVD Out Here We Are In-Reply-To: <20080925172917.M71032@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: On 25 Sep 2008, at 12:32 , Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > Depends. They might offer it as lossless downloads. Oh, now _that_ would be worthy news! I rate the chances of me being able to mail-order big piles of CDs to Colombia as, at best, "awful". ;) But there's nothing wrong with my internet connection; I could actually _buy_ lossless downloads ..... 'Course, what are the chances of that happening ...... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 25 20:09:39 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:09:39 -0400 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: <20080923150720.M14820@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: I love Captured Rotation too. It is fun to see how a thread will spin out. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation > Carl, who has lost track of what this thread has to do with either > Brock or _Captured Rotation_ (still a favorite of mine, despite the > good Mr. Jarrett's concerns about the doings of the archaeopteryxes > :)) But that's the beauty of BOC-L. You start reading a thead, and you only have to look away for a second. When you return, the thread has wandered off into the deep surreal. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Sep 25 20:09:40 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:09:40 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drives and backups (was: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++) In-Reply-To: <20080826084132.M328@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: You're way over my head, I simply need to find out how to back up. Chris ws horrified when he saw my crashed disc. Any guidance would be helpful. Peace, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Arjan Hulsebos Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:58 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Drives and backups (was: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++) On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:23:26 -0400, Paul Mather wrote > One of the things to remember about hard drives is that though they > have automatic bad sector reallocation, it is only triggered on a > write. So, if you have data sitting on a sector that subsequently > goes bad, there's nothing the drive can do about it. That's where > redundant schemes like RAID come in: it can try and recover the data > automatically from other drives in the RAID, or from parity > information. Alas, this is where you can also discover that other > drives in the RAID, say same models from the same manufacturer or > same batch, have also failed in similar fashion, and the multiple > failures cause the RAID itself to fail. This is especially true when you do disk mirroring... > Because of this cluster failure phenomenon, enterprise level RAID > controllers will usually have an option for the controller to > periodically "police" the entire surface of all attached drives, > making sure the data are readable. > > Arjan, you might want to look into using the ZFS filesystem for > your fileservers. One of its main design features is to try not to > trust data coming from various subsystems unless it can verify it. > Thus, it employs various levels of checksumming and redundancy. It > tries to be proactive about data integrity, too. It has a "scrub" > function that tries to discover bad sectors, and, in a RAID > configuration, automatic resilvering when bad data are discovered. ZFS is very groovy, more so when you have _lost_ of Gigs to throw into the game. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Thu Sep 25 20:15:08 2008 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:15:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Space Rock In-Reply-To: <20080925153705.GI11619@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Sad to say, my recent adventures in bandland (The Hands Of Joe) imploded due to some spectacularly Spinal Tap-ish behaviour on the part of our front man before I could even try to persuade any of you lot to come and see us, never mind get as far as the studio... Watch this space - my main partner-in-crime is taking over a pub, so I'm sure more live adventures will follow! Cheers ChrisW ObFestival:Loopallu 2008 (The Best Little Fest In The West) On 25 Sep 2008, at 16:37, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:26:07AM +0200, SHLL (Scott Heller) typed > out: >> Just a quick announcement that my band, the all improvised space rock >> band, Oresund Space Collective, have our 4th CD out entitled "Inside >> your Head". We have two sample tracks up at myspace (link below) and >> you can buy the CD from our web site.. Thanks to some of you for >> checking out the band and supporting space rock! > > Fourth! Good heavens man. I seem not to have heard about the > second or third at that rate... Yours, > Jon > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Sep 25 20:17:11 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:17:11 -0500 Subject: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording In-Reply-To: Message-ID: agreed but shouldn't you stay home so we can negotiate the paint pen thing?? On 9/25/08, trev wrote: > > never mind about judas priest...i need a lift to herne bay from brighton on > sunday...mine has fallen through > > ooer > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:27 PM > To: > Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording > > yes this does mess up my nice pair now doesn't it?? >> a nice trio >> thanks for pointing out that we have another case of the space ritual >> going >> on here as far as live recordings go.... >> >> >> On 9/24/08, gary shindler wrote: >> >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East >>> >>> >>> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: >>> >>> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM >>> Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM >>> >>> In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: >>> >>> Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live >>> >>> bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or >>> did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, >>> do you suppose? >>> At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were >>> judged >>> against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury >>> and >>> Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). >>> Halford >>> began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for >>> Vengeance, >>> >>> which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series of >>> 'Hit' >>> singles and continuous radio play. >>> One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy of >>> Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to bottom) >>> REO >>> Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. >>> It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix >>> sold >>> for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees >>> F and >>> inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management >>> saw NO >>> reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place >>> went >>> completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he >>> was >>> dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's >>> why >>> my >>> friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised when >>> RH >>> came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole >>> persona to >>> the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of >>> up >>> and coming heavy metal acts. >>> I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same >>> stage >>> setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, >>> strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. >>> I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his >>> voice back or was it just trickery. >>> Anyway it was a fantastic show. >>> Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't end >>> till >>> around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, very, >>> very >>> nicely. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I think >>> he >>> >>> may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's >>> been hindering >>> his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. >>> >>> bill s >>> ny >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >>> tips >>> and >>> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Fri Sep 26 03:22:42 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:22:42 +0200 Subject: OFF: Drives and backups (was: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:09:40 -0400, Mary Sullivan wrote > You're way over my head, I simply need to find out how to back up. > Chris ws horrified when he saw my crashed disc. Any guidance would > be helpful. Assuming your computer's got USB ports, just get an external HD. If you don't care about reinstalling the OS, just copy the stuff you want to back up over to the USB HD, otherwise use back up software. If you do go for that, then do test the restore procedures. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Sep 26 08:11:02 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:11:02 +0100 Subject: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording In-Reply-To: <291561.8050.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <17d80c610809251027w34d31098v8e853e51ba4ddc3f@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809251717q4d30c86cx26fcc8f1e251194c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: paint pen thing?...paint pen thing? -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:17 AM To: Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording > agreed but shouldn't you stay home so we can negotiate the paint pen > thing?? > > > > On 9/25/08, trev wrote: >> >> never mind about judas priest...i need a lift to herne bay from brighton >> on >> sunday...mine has fallen through >> >> ooer >> >> trev >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:27 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording >> >> yes this does mess up my nice pair now doesn't it?? >>> a nice trio >>> thanks for pointing out that we have another case of the space ritual >>> going >>> on here as far as live recordings go.... >>> >>> >>> On 9/24/08, gary shindler wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM >>>> Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM >>>> >>>> In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: >>>> >>>> Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live >>>> >>>> bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or >>>> did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, >>>> do you suppose? >>>> At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were >>>> judged >>>> against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury >>>> and >>>> Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). >>>> Halford >>>> began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for >>>> Vengeance, >>>> >>>> which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series >>>> of >>>> 'Hit' >>>> singles and continuous radio play. >>>> One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy >>>> of >>>> Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to >>>> bottom) >>>> REO >>>> Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. >>>> It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix >>>> sold >>>> for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees >>>> F and >>>> inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management >>>> saw NO >>>> reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place >>>> went >>>> completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he >>>> was >>>> dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's >>>> why >>>> my >>>> friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised >>>> when >>>> RH >>>> came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole >>>> persona to >>>> the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of >>>> up >>>> and coming heavy metal acts. >>>> I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same >>>> stage >>>> setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, >>>> strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. >>>> I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his >>>> voice back or was it just trickery. >>>> Anyway it was a fantastic show. >>>> Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't end >>>> till >>>> around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, very, >>>> very >>>> nicely. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I think >>>> he >>>> >>>> may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's >>>> been hindering >>>> his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. >>>> >>>> bill s >>>> ny >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >>>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >>>> tips >>>> and >>>> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Sep 26 08:46:04 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:46:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: Space Rock In-Reply-To: <760CE11D-A9D0-4235-A1CF-FC66668A01B1@madasafish.com> Message-ID: On 25 Sep 2008, at 19:15 , Chris Warburton wrote: > Sad to say, my recent adventures in bandland (The Hands Of Joe) > imploded due to some spectacularly Spinal Tap-ish behaviour on the > part of our front man before I could even try to persuade any of > you lot to come and see us, never mind get as far as the studio... > Watch this space - my main partner-in-crime is taking over a pub, > so I'm sure more live adventures will follow! Bummer! I know that feeling .... ;) But here's hoping a freshly dusted-down phoenix arises from the ashes .... :) BTW, any of you out there in would-be-band-land that are interested in virtual collaboration, gi' us a shout. These days, I tend to do my home-recording (albeit at a speed that would get me enough material for album-length releases _almost_ as slowly as current BOC ;) in Apple GarageBand, so it's easy for me to exchange material with other GB users -- but obviously it's not much harder just to sling WAVs around, taking them in and out of whatever editor people are using locally. Improvisatory material is, erm, understandably difficult to do this way ;) but one can at least crank out composed pieces that don't sound too bad for all that their knocked up at home by clueless if enthusiastic amateurs with guitars plugged into the computer -- an improvement on _Bring Me the Head of Yuri Gargarin_, I should think, anyway. ;) I think I've still got some time to wait before online music collaboration becomes as easy as (or easier than) as chatting by Skype ... but we're closer than we were 10 years ago! :) All that technology will eventually create the global jam (hopefully generating enough noise to irritate the global village regularly :)). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Sep 26 10:29:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:29:08 -0500 Subject: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording In-Reply-To: Message-ID: you know EXACTLY that which I speak, it's really the least you could do for me since you got me banned for life on the Yahoo group and have tried your hardest to divide and conquer and putting me at risk of being a HW reject...... I figure even you are getting pretty far "up there" in years and I better get you on this since the chance might go away forever any day now.... I can't decide weather to let you crack the seal or if I better check it since it has a description beyond simple silver, "silver argent plateado" which frightens me a bit.....now, you have forum members suggesting that Nik hang up the conscious of Hawkwind concept, that means in plain english, that there are "bigger fish to fry", so get at it NOW On 9/26/08, trev wrote: > > paint pen thing?...paint pen thing? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:17 AM > To: > Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording > > agreed but shouldn't you stay home so we can negotiate the paint pen >> thing?? >> >> >> >> On 9/25/08, trev wrote: >> >>> >>> never mind about judas priest...i need a lift to herne bay from brighton >>> on >>> sunday...mine has fallen through >>> >>> ooer >>> >>> trev >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:27 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording >>> >>> yes this does mess up my nice pair now doesn't it?? >>> >>>> a nice trio >>>> thanks for pointing out that we have another case of the space ritual >>>> going >>>> on here as far as live recordings go.... >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/24/08, gary shindler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM >>>>> Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. >>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>> jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: >>>>> >>>>> Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live >>>>> >>>>> bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this or >>>>> did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as bonuses, >>>>> do you suppose? >>>>> At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others were >>>>> judged >>>>> against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy Mercury >>>>> and >>>>> Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). >>>>> Halford >>>>> began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for >>>>> Vengeance, >>>>> >>>>> which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a series >>>>> of >>>>> 'Hit' >>>>> singles and continuous radio play. >>>>> One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old Academy >>>>> of >>>>> Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to >>>>> bottom) >>>>> REO >>>>> Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. >>>>> It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix >>>>> sold >>>>> for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 degrees >>>>> F and >>>>> inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head management >>>>> saw NO >>>>> reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the place >>>>> went >>>>> completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and he >>>>> was >>>>> dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. That's >>>>> why >>>>> my >>>>> friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised >>>>> when >>>>> RH >>>>> came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole >>>>> persona to >>>>> the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's of >>>>> up >>>>> and coming heavy metal acts. >>>>> I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same >>>>> stage >>>>> setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the drummer, >>>>> strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. >>>>> I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got his >>>>> voice back or was it just trickery. >>>>> Anyway it was a fantastic show. >>>>> Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't end >>>>> till >>>>> around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, very, >>>>> very >>>>> nicely. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I think >>>>> he >>>>> >>>>> may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's >>>>> been hindering >>>>> his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. >>>>> >>>>> bill s >>>>> ny >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial >>>>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >>>>> tips >>>>> and >>>>> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001 >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Sep 26 10:36:54 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:36:54 +0100 Subject: HW/NIK: new albums compared (was OFF: Dio, Maiden, etc.) In-Reply-To: <200809231111.m8NBB1WM021082@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:11:01PM +0100, M Holmes typed out: > Jonathan Jarrett writes: > > ObCD: Space Ritual - _Otherworld_, which I only just got and which is > > confusing me by being not bad enough that I'm not entirely certain it > > might not be good. A terrible string of negatives, but I was truly > > expecting it to suck, and it fails to do so. More on this I expect... > I've quite liked it from the getgo. It's the only good thing Nik has > done in I don't know how long. Maybe he can finally let go of Hawkwind > and start producing some music again... It is good, isn't it? But I'm not sure Nik is to blame. If you have a good look at the writing credits, he's mostly there for words, but a lot of the words are words we've heard before, from Sphynx or ICU, `Time Crime', `Communique' and so on. The real new creative input seems to be coming from a guest, this Russell bloke, and, well, Dave Anderson. It's really Anderson's album, to read those credits anyway. The weird thing; it sounds so much more professionally produced than TMTYL. The material isn't as good, I think, I don't think that, beyond `Otherworld' itself and `Sonic Savages', there's any truly stand-out songs here, whereas TMTYL has several, especially `Sun Ray' and `Angela Android' but others as well. But it sounds so good overall that you could be fooled into thinking there were. It reminds me of when I saw the 21st Century Schizoid Band, who are King Crimson's kind of XHawkwind equivalent. They had some new material too, and it wasn't very interesting, but they knew so much about arrangements and general musical cunning that the essential drabness of their songs were very well disguised. Something similar here, and this is very strong evidence to my mind that HW should really stop producing records in a barn and Pro Tools... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Sep 25 11:28:22 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:28:22 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. Message-ID: I'd rather listen to Simple Minds "Don't You Forget About Me" which is NP on my MP3 player. Next up is Sisters Of Mercy "No Time To Cry" - if it hadnt been for me we wouldnt have such songs that tell the greatest truths - so tell me Mike Coleman: where are the lyrics you posted from? Its about what they are exploiting me and I know its intentional harrassment. Christian the harrassed ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 25 September, 2008 16:02:11 Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. On 9/25/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hey Christian,Sounds like fun parties. We don't get hash over here > anymore. Don't worry, you'll come down, next week, haha, just kidding. I'll > bet you're straightened out now after a long sleep. Next time you can give > the hash to me,, just kidding. Take care. > > nanobot swarms on the wall > clocking all that you're saying > there's a bug in the hall > so there's no use in praying. > They've invaded your home. > They've invaded your privacy. > You thought you were alone > but there's always the microphone > listening in - before you begin > it's all on file. > > While you wait in the queue > hanging round in the foyer > there's a lens fixed on you > (no it's not paranoia.) > It's a steel toothed comb > like the ones used for head-lice tests. > You can tell by the tone: > hollow echoing on the phone. > It's all on tape - > your voice-print's wave shape. > It's stored on file. > > There's a sign on the door: > The Department of Secrets - > And in there there's yours, > all your hopes and your regrets. > They've invaded your home. > They've invaded your privacy. > You thought you were alone > but there's always the microphone > listening in - before you begin > it's all on file. > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Sep 27 12:03:57 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:03:57 +0100 Subject: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording In-Reply-To: <291561.8050.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <17d80c610809251027w34d31098v8e853e51ba4ddc3f@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809251717q4d30c86cx26fcc8f1e251194c@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809260729q4bd1b675v61290bdc215d1174@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Miserable worm...You speak of materialistic gain and rank archivism when the LIGHT harmonies of Thoms, Reeves and Pond are being prepared to be unleashed unto the BLESSED ONES along with the GIANT ROBO CALVERT -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:29 PM To: Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording > you know EXACTLY that which I speak, it's really the least you could do > for > me since you got me banned for life on the Yahoo group and have tried your > hardest to divide and conquer and putting me at risk of being a HW > reject...... > I figure even you are getting pretty far "up there" in years and I better > get you on this since the chance might go away forever any day now.... > I can't decide weather to let you crack the seal or if I better check it > since it has a description beyond simple silver, "silver argent plateado" > which frightens me a bit.....now, you have forum members suggesting that > Nik > hang up the conscious of Hawkwind concept, that means in plain english, > that > there are "bigger fish to fry", so get at it > NOW > > > On 9/26/08, trev wrote: >> >> paint pen thing?...paint pen thing? >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:17 AM >> To: >> Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording >> >> agreed but shouldn't you stay home so we can negotiate the paint pen >>> thing?? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/25/08, trev wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> never mind about judas priest...i need a lift to herne bay from >>>> brighton >>>> on >>>> sunday...mine has fallen through >>>> >>>> ooer >>>> >>>> trev >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:27 PM >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording >>>> >>>> yes this does mess up my nice pair now doesn't it?? >>>> >>>>> a nice trio >>>>> thanks for pointing out that we have another case of the space ritual >>>>> going >>>>> on here as far as live recordings go.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/24/08, gary shindler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM >>>>>> Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. >>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>>> jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live >>>>>> >>>>>> bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this >>>>>> or >>>>>> did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as >>>>>> bonuses, >>>>>> do you suppose? >>>>>> At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others >>>>>> were >>>>>> judged >>>>>> against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy >>>>>> Mercury >>>>>> and >>>>>> Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). >>>>>> Halford >>>>>> began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for >>>>>> Vengeance, >>>>>> >>>>>> which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a >>>>>> series >>>>>> of >>>>>> 'Hit' >>>>>> singles and continuous radio play. >>>>>> One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old >>>>>> Academy >>>>>> of >>>>>> Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to >>>>>> bottom) >>>>>> REO >>>>>> Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. >>>>>> It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix >>>>>> sold >>>>>> for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 >>>>>> degrees >>>>>> F and >>>>>> inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head >>>>>> management >>>>>> saw NO >>>>>> reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the >>>>>> place >>>>>> went >>>>>> completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and >>>>>> he >>>>>> was >>>>>> dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. >>>>>> That's >>>>>> why >>>>>> my >>>>>> friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised >>>>>> when >>>>>> RH >>>>>> came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole >>>>>> persona to >>>>>> the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's >>>>>> of >>>>>> up >>>>>> and coming heavy metal acts. >>>>>> I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same >>>>>> stage >>>>>> setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the >>>>>> drummer, >>>>>> strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. >>>>>> I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got >>>>>> his >>>>>> voice back or was it just trickery. >>>>>> Anyway it was a fantastic show. >>>>>> Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't >>>>>> end >>>>>> till >>>>>> around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, >>>>>> very, >>>>>> very >>>>>> nicely. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>>> >>>>> it >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> expect... >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I >>>>>> think >>>>>> he >>>>>> >>>>>> may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's >>>>>> been hindering >>>>>> his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. >>>>>> >>>>>> bill s >>>>>> ny >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life >>>>>> financial >>>>>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >>>>>> tips >>>>>> and >>>>>> calculators. >>>>>> (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001 >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 27 12:32:38 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:32:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: <570542.49952.qm@web23006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah I saw that. I was just bored and it was on TV, I never would have selected it other wise. Hilarious, not at all made for my snobbish intellectual tastes, but one of the funniest movies I've seen in a few years, the other being "Spaceman" On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Amphetamine Embalmer < superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > anybody see this hilarious movie??? Its probably the funniest thing i've > seen in years. LOL > > NP: The White Stripes "Elephant" > ObCD: The Chameleons "Tripping Dogs" ( bootleg ) > > > > > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 27 13:59:51 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:59:51 -0500 Subject: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oh yes, about that robo calvert I didn't have the heart to announce steve influenced me to do a one-off robo god whose flamethrower voice sounds like mike coleman congrats on the mental psi-warfare, it never occured to me that my Atomogods work is incomplete, somewhere out in that vast fishing hole lies a sealed USA copy WITHOUT a notch cut, and it never occured to me I might want your dedication to me done in blue, or red, or yellow.....blue is winning as of this moment.... I was going to suggest you 3 form a pact, but chickened out, good to see I have forced more secrets out well, off to plan somebody's next nuisssance.... shouldn't you be in a stranger's automobile by now??? On 9/27/08, trev wrote: > > Miserable worm...You speak of materialistic gain and rank archivism when > the LIGHT harmonies of Thoms, Reeves and Pond are being prepared to be > unleashed unto the BLESSED ONES along with the GIANT ROBO CALVERT > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:29 PM > To: > Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording > > you know EXACTLY that which I speak, it's really the least you could do for >> me since you got me banned for life on the Yahoo group and have tried your >> hardest to divide and conquer and putting me at risk of being a HW >> reject...... >> I figure even you are getting pretty far "up there" in years and I better >> get you on this since the chance might go away forever any day now.... >> I can't decide weather to let you crack the seal or if I better check it >> since it has a description beyond simple silver, "silver argent plateado" >> which frightens me a bit.....now, you have forum members suggesting that >> Nik >> hang up the conscious of Hawkwind concept, that means in plain english, >> that >> there are "bigger fish to fry", so get at it >> NOW >> >> >> On 9/26/08, trev wrote: >> >>> >>> paint pen thing?...paint pen thing? >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:17 AM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording >>> >>> agreed but shouldn't you stay home so we can negotiate the paint pen >>> >>>> thing?? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/25/08, trev wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> never mind about judas priest...i need a lift to herne bay from >>>>> brighton >>>>> on >>>>> sunday...mine has fallen through >>>>> >>>>> ooer >>>>> >>>>> trev >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:27 PM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording >>>>> >>>>> yes this does mess up my nice pair now doesn't it?? >>>>> >>>>> a nice trio >>>>>> thanks for pointing out that we have another case of the space ritual >>>>>> going >>>>>> on here as far as live recordings go.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/24/08, gary shindler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. >>>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>>>> jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as >>>>>>> bonuses, >>>>>>> do you suppose? >>>>>>> At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> judged >>>>>>> against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy >>>>>>> Mercury >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). >>>>>>> Halford >>>>>>> began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for >>>>>>> Vengeance, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a >>>>>>> series >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> 'Hit' >>>>>>> singles and continuous radio play. >>>>>>> One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old >>>>>>> Academy >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to >>>>>>> bottom) >>>>>>> REO >>>>>>> Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. >>>>>>> It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix >>>>>>> sold >>>>>>> for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 >>>>>>> degrees >>>>>>> F and >>>>>>> inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head >>>>>>> management >>>>>>> saw NO >>>>>>> reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the >>>>>>> place >>>>>>> went >>>>>>> completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. >>>>>>> That's >>>>>>> why >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> RH >>>>>>> came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole >>>>>>> persona to >>>>>>> the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> up >>>>>>> and coming heavy metal acts. >>>>>>> I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same >>>>>>> stage >>>>>>> setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the >>>>>>> drummer, >>>>>>> strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. >>>>>>> I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got >>>>>>> his >>>>>>> voice back or was it just trickery. >>>>>>> Anyway it was a fantastic show. >>>>>>> Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't >>>>>>> end >>>>>>> till >>>>>>> around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, >>>>>>> very, >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> nicely. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> is >>>>>>> >>>>>> it >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> expect... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> >>>>>>> may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's >>>>>>> been hindering >>>>>>> his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bill s >>>>>>> ny >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life >>>>>>> financial >>>>>>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >>>>>>> tips >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001 >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 27 14:15:38 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:15:38 -0500 Subject: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU Message-ID: *in case anybody has dyslexia of the mind* *THIS IS VERY SERIOUS GOOD NEWS......* On 9/27/08, trev wrote: > > Miserable worm...You speak of materialistic gain and rank archivism when > the LIGHT harmonies of Thoms, Reeves and Pond are being prepared to be > unleashed unto the BLESSED ONES along with the GIANT ROBO CALVERT > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 3:29 PM > To: > Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording > > you know EXACTLY that which I speak, it's really the least you could do for >> me since you got me banned for life on the Yahoo group and have tried your >> hardest to divide and conquer and putting me at risk of being a HW >> reject...... >> I figure even you are getting pretty far "up there" in years and I better >> get you on this since the chance might go away forever any day now.... >> I can't decide weather to let you crack the seal or if I better check it >> since it has a description beyond simple silver, "silver argent plateado" >> which frightens me a bit.....now, you have forum members suggesting that >> Nik >> hang up the conscious of Hawkwind concept, that means in plain english, >> that >> there are "bigger fish to fry", so get at it >> NOW >> >> >> On 9/26/08, trev wrote: >> >>> >>> paint pen thing?...paint pen thing? >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:17 AM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording >>> >>> agreed but shouldn't you stay home so we can negotiate the paint pen >>> >>>> thing?? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/25/08, trev wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> never mind about judas priest...i need a lift to herne bay from >>>>> brighton >>>>> on >>>>> sunday...mine has fallen through >>>>> >>>>> ooer >>>>> >>>>> trev >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:27 PM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: In reference to Judas Priest's live recording >>>>> >>>>> yes this does mess up my nice pair now doesn't it?? >>>>> >>>>> a nice trio >>>>>> thanks for pointing out that we have another case of the space ritual >>>>>> going >>>>>> on here as far as live recordings go.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/24/08, gary shindler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleashed_in_the_East >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Wed, 9/24/08, Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: OFF: Re: Dio, Maiden, etc. >>>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 2:09 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a message dated 9/22/2008 4:53:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>>>>>> jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Halford's singing's silly but competent--but there's also some live >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bonus material, on which he sounds *awful*. Was he always like this >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> did they just have a very thin selection of material to use as >>>>>>> bonuses, >>>>>>> do you suppose? >>>>>>> At one time Halford was THE voice of Heavy Metal whom all others >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> judged >>>>>>> against. The only others who came close were; Gillian, Freddy >>>>>>> Mercury >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Robert Plant (although by this time Plant was in serious decline). >>>>>>> Halford >>>>>>> began loosing the hi notes in concert somewhere after Screaming for >>>>>>> Vengeance, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> which by that time they were the hottest act in town, due to a >>>>>>> series >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> 'Hit' >>>>>>> singles and continuous radio play. >>>>>>> One of the greatest rock shows I've ever saw was JP at the old >>>>>>> Academy >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Music on 14th St in NYC around 1977. The billing was(from top to >>>>>>> bottom) >>>>>>> REO >>>>>>> Speedwagon, Starz, and JP at the bottom of the bill. >>>>>>> It was a July evening and it was billed as a BARGAIN Night as the tix >>>>>>> sold >>>>>>> for only $3.50. The temperature outside had to be close to 100 >>>>>>> degrees >>>>>>> F and >>>>>>> inside was at least 10 degrees hotter..and for $3.50 a head >>>>>>> management >>>>>>> saw NO >>>>>>> reason to put on the AC. Priest played most of Sad Wings and the >>>>>>> place >>>>>>> went >>>>>>> completely mental. I remember Halford had long flowing red hair and >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> dressed in chiffon and he acted, aaaa, how can I say this...gay. >>>>>>> That's >>>>>>> why >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> friends and I were always surprised that everyone else was surprised >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> RH >>>>>>> came 'out'. The next tour, JP headlined and had switched the whole >>>>>>> persona to >>>>>>> the campy, leather, S&M thing, which was immediately copied by 100's >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> up >>>>>>> and coming heavy metal acts. >>>>>>> I remember seeing Iron Maiden open for the Priest with the EXACT same >>>>>>> stage >>>>>>> setup, runways at each side of the stage coming up behind the >>>>>>> drummer, >>>>>>> strobes, everything was the same except smaller for Iron Maiden. >>>>>>> I saw the Priest last month in NY and they were GREAT...Halford got >>>>>>> his >>>>>>> voice back or was it just trickery. >>>>>>> Anyway it was a fantastic show. >>>>>>> Since the Hawks were on a long hiatus from the states that wouldn't >>>>>>> end >>>>>>> till >>>>>>> around '89 --the Priest filled that void, for a few years anyway, >>>>>>> very, >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> nicely. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> is >>>>>>> >>>>>> it >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> expect... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought this was Nik's best work since Sphinx (both). Finally I >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> >>>>>>> may be over the whole, 'I'm the spirit of Hawkwind' crap that's >>>>>>> been hindering >>>>>>> his artistic progress for years. This is a good one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bill s >>>>>>> ny >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life >>>>>>> financial >>>>>>> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, >>>>>>> tips >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001 >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Sat Sep 27 16:00:54 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:00:54 +0100 Subject: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809271115k660afce7p428d6f4110b4fc67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >when the LIGHT harmonies of Thoms, Reeves and Pond are being prepared to be unleashed > unto the BLESSED ONES along with the GIANT ROBO CALVERT I take it you found a ride then? Fred & I just spent another day polishing the Robo-Calvert into life, it lives, it breathes, it is a mighty and terrifying thing.. Anyone who is within traveling distance of Herne Bay would be a fule not to attend. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 27 17:21:24 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:21:24 -0500 Subject: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > sp- > I take it you found a ride then? He doesn't go until tomorrow, he's probably drunk... as you can see, my relationship with Trev has devolved into one of pure hate and zero tolerance.....I can usually "chase him off" the BOC-L, but every now and again he turns up with something quite pathetic and useless to bellow..... It's quite sad that the age of the computer has taken away the sanity of the atlantic ocean resting between us It looks like I may have to go offline..... Since you seem willing to share a stage with alcohol moistened microphones, I must try to salvage what I can here.....Trev may have gotten the hump off his back when he finally licked his nasty addiction to embalming fluid back in the 80's, but the damage was done and now that he is elderly he's gotten senile, and doesn't realise in this late stage of the game (no pun intended), his constant gigging in the UK does no good in preserving the fact he every existed at all, not to mention doing USA fans very little good ....... at this juncture for him it's all about the product, the pose, and the marketing (I'm thinking wig, I'm thinking brunette),,,,, if your garage yeilds fruit, could I get you to consider sending him the standard issue of my favorite 45, in some snot manner to inlcude a note "on loan from mike coleman", since he pretends he's never heard it.......If you are going to use him I want him to at least have a reminder of "how it's done" and with that out in the open, I have improved upon the "hump on you back" lyrics (unless everybody else is just wrong), and if anybody cares to shop them around to eddie clarke or anything, be my guest.... I don't need no I don't need no smack Don't you do it It'll stop you in your tracks You might think it's clever Nodding out forever With a monkey on your back Ain't no future The mainline ain't the way If you got problems Face 'em now today 'Cause there ain't no use in hidin' While you're watchin' your friends dyin' (could be "girlfriends", take your pick) The Monkey makes you pay Turn it up! You might think I Ain't got no place to preach But paradise Is right there in your reach But I'm here to tell ya Heroin gonna kill ya The monkey's just a leach From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Sep 27 19:06:22 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:06:22 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Kozmik Ken & Space Does Not Care shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com AUGUST 28, 2008: NEW RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded new shows from The Kozmik Ken Experience (October 2008), and our brand new show, Space Does Not Care, hosted by Chuck Rosenberg. See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html The Kozmik Ken Experience (October 2008) The Higher Craft - "Senorita" (from Magic Box) Sula Bassana - "My Blue Guitar" (from Dreamer) Assemblehead - "Summon the Vardig" (from In Sunburst Sound) Project Moonbeam - "Speculation" (from Project Moonbeam) Earthling Society - "Sundropped" (from Beauty and the Beast) Rockinghorse People - "On and On" (from Nothing For The Road) Unimother 27 - "My Ritual Ashes" (from Grin) Alan Davey - "Queen of the Night" (from Beouin) Baby Woodrose - "I Feel High" (from Coming Round Again) Heavy Water Experiments - "Book Colored Blue" (Heavy Water Experiments) Lava - "Glenn" (from Lava) Space Does Not Care (show #1) Chuck Rosenberg did a radio show dubbed "Space Does Not Care" from 1999-2003 at KUCR out of Riverside, CA, which streamed on-line for most of that time. The format of the new online version of Space Does Not Care is secured by Chuck under the umbrella of Psych/Space/Kraut/Electro/Indie/Folk/Noise-rock. BLACK MOUNTAIN - "Modern Music" (from Black Mountain - Jag Jaguar) THE OCTOPUS PROJECT - "Black Blizzard/Red Umbrella" (from Hello, Avalanche - Peek-a-Boo) OCASEK - "Hungarian Dream Come True" (from Cinematic 1996-1997 - Digitalis) FUXA "Girl (radio edit)" (from The Modified Mechanics of this Device - Mind Expansion?) DAVID LYNCH - "The Pink Room" (from Twin Peaks - Fire Walk With Me Soundtrack - Warner Bros) INDO TRIBE - "Bite The Bullet Baby - Pulse Three" (from Indo Tribe 1991 Release) RICHARD THOMAS - "I Am Carnal, And I Know That You Are Too" (from I Am Carnal, and I Know That You Approve) SHEEP ON DRUGS vs BAGMAN - "Strange Days" (from Chemical Warfare - Invisible) SILVER APPLES - "Fantasies" (from Contact - MCA) THIRD EYE FOUNDATION - "I Have Known Love" (from Electronic Evocations - A Tribute To The Silver Apples - Enraptured) SERENA MANEESH - "Candlelighted" (from Serena Maneesh - PlayLoud/Beggars Banquet) THE ARCADE FIRE - "Neighborhood #4 (7 Kettles)" (from Funeral - Merge) BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE - "hHallmark" (from Bee Hives - Arts & Crafts) CLYDE FEDERAL - "Corpses Flicker (Live)" (from Ascension Days - Galactic Zoo Dossier) CHARALAMBIDES - "Samar" (from Historic Sixth Ward - Wholly Other) THE EARLY YEARS - "High Times and Low Lives" (from The Early Years - Beggars' Banquet) HAWKWIND - "Life Form" (from PXR5) http://Aural-Innovations.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Sep 27 13:43:33 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:43:33 +0000 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball Message-ID: Funny and intellectual movies: Ken Russell 'Lair of The White Worm" also: "Withnail & I", these must be two of my all time movies, and I usually also like "intelligent" type movies, rarely humour, but the exceptions of course....... like in comics, S. Clay Wilson for example. Christian PS: Lair of the white worm is about me, THE ELK-HOUND (a local legend) ----- Original Message ---- From: Owen O'Neill To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, 27 September, 2008 18:32:38 Subject: Re: OFF: Dodgeball Yeah I saw that. I was just bored and it was on TV, I never would have selected it other wise. Hilarious, not at all made for my snobbish intellectual tastes, but one of the funniest movies I've seen in a few years, the other being "Spaceman" On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Amphetamine Embalmer < superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > anybody see this hilarious movie??? Its probably the funniest thing i've > seen in years. LOL > > NP: The White Stripes "Elephant" > ObCD: The Chameleons "Tripping Dogs" ( bootleg ) > > > > > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Sep 27 22:10:59 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:10:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: <791700.34376.qm@web23004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 27 Sep 2008, at 12:43 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > also: "Withnail & I" This film is, IMO, one of humanity's greatest achievements. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Sep 27 22:17:15 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:17:15 -0500 Subject: HW/NIK: new albums compared (was OFF: Dio, Maiden, etc.) In-Reply-To: <20080926143654.GM14640@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 26 Sep 2008, at 09:36 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Something similar here, and this is very strong evidence > to my mind that HW should really stop producing records in a barn and > Pro Tools... Actually, I think it's possibly more important that _HW_ stop producing their _own_ records. I'm sure one _could_ produce a perfectly decent record in a barn with Pro Tools -- _if_ one knew when the hell to stop messing around with the blimmin' mix! Even a small handful of cooks can make a mess of the soup if they have continual access to it and keep chucking more and more random ingredients into it over the months or years they keep it simmering. ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 27 22:59:15 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (nosehair regeneration) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:59:15 -0500 Subject: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809271421q5c5bf176if64594413dc9a54c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: um, before I get strung on the cross Trev 1) it IS bullshit 2) some folks get to shed a tear when alone at xmas, I get it every weekend 3) I need a drink 4) nobody to drink with 5) I need god 6) no god here 7) i feel sick 8) oops On 9/27/08, mike coleman wrote: > > sp- >> I take it you found a ride then? > > > He doesn't go until tomorrow, he's probably drunk... > as you can see, my relationship with Trev has devolved into one of pure > hate and zero tolerance.....I can usually "chase him off" the BOC-L, but > every now and again he turns up with something quite pathetic and useless to > bellow..... > It's quite sad that the age of the computer has taken away the sanity of > the atlantic ocean resting between us > It looks like I may have to go offline..... > Since you seem willing to share a stage with alcohol moistened microphones, > I must try to salvage what I can here.....Trev may have gotten the hump off > his back when he finally licked his nasty addiction to embalming fluid back > in the 80's, but the damage was done and now that he is elderly he's gotten > senile, and doesn't realise in this late stage of the game (no pun > intended), his constant gigging in the UK does no good in preserving the > fact he every existed at all, not to mention doing USA fans very little good > ....... > at this juncture for him it's all about the product, the pose, and the > marketing (I'm thinking wig, I'm thinking brunette),,,,, > if your garage yeilds fruit, could I get you to consider sending him the > standard issue of my favorite 45, in some snot manner to inlcude a note "on > loan from mike coleman", since he pretends he's never heard it.......If you > are going to use him I want him to at least have a reminder of "how it's > done" > and with that out in the open, I have improved upon the "hump on you back" > lyrics (unless everybody else is just wrong), and if anybody cares to shop > them around to eddie clarke or anything, be my guest.... > I don't need no > I don't need no smack > Don't you do it > It'll stop you in your tracks > You might think it's clever > Nodding out forever > With a monkey on your back > Ain't no future > The mainline ain't the way > If you got problems > Face 'em now today > 'Cause there ain't no use in hidin' > While you're watchin' your friends dyin' (could be "girlfriends", take your > pick) > The Monkey makes you pay > Turn it up! > You might think I > Ain't got no place to preach > But paradise > Is right there in your reach > But I'm here to tell ya > Heroin gonna kill ya > The monkey's just a leach > > > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Sep 27 23:09:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (nosehair regeneration) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:09:08 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: <37596A40-8B18-40E5-8B83-ECE02F317895@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 9/27/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 27 Sep 2008, at 12:43 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > >> also: "Withnail & I" >> This film is, IMO, one of humanity's greatest achievements. > > and "lair" imHo, one of the worst......(digging back far far through the foggy recesses for that).......NOTHING personal here christian, I just hated it, and I realise it's a "cult" movie or an attempt at one..... also IMHO whoever decided nosehairs should be trimmed was genius, like satan.... From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Sep 27 22:50:01 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:50:01 +0000 Subject: HW/NIK: new albums compared (was OFF: Dio, Maiden, etc.) Message-ID: LOL your soup comparison is so funny dude i broke down and LOL laughed LOL dude LOL christian Hawkwind-dood ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Sunday, 28 September, 2008 4:17:15 Subject: Re: HW/NIK: new albums compared (was OFF: Dio, Maiden, etc.) On 26 Sep 2008, at 09:36 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Something similar here, and this is very strong evidence > to my mind that HW should really stop producing records in a barn and > Pro Tools... Actually, I think it's possibly more important that _HW_ stop producing their _own_ records. I'm sure one _could_ produce a perfectly decent record in a barn with Pro Tools -- _if_ one knew when the hell to stop messing around with the blimmin' mix! Even a small handful of cooks can make a mess of the soup if they have continual access to it and keep chucking more and more random ingredients into it over the months or years they keep it simmering. ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Sep 28 19:45:13 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:45:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: <37596A40-8B18-40E5-8B83-ECE02F317895@carlaz.com> Message-ID: never heard of it. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Dodgeball On 27 Sep 2008, at 12:43 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > also: "Withnail & I" This film is, IMO, one of humanity's greatest achievements. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 28 20:13:46 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:13:46 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/28/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > never heard of it Hi Mary, several movies werem mentioned here, but knowing you as I do you likely refer to "lair of the white worm". The more I strain to think about it, I simply recall it was too strange and complicated for my ADD to handle. I t seems like I was amped up and wanted to salvage it in an erotic manner but that failed as well....... so long as I'm looking back, GARBAGE, now there's wholesome film...... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Sep 28 20:27:11 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:27:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809281713h53524922tf65da4cbc99f9df3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I meant TRASH, andy warhol's trash 1970. Not really recommended.... On 9/28/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 9/28/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >> >> never heard of it > > > Hi Mary, several movies werem mentioned here, but knowing you as I do you > likely refer to "lair of the white worm". The more I strain to think about > it, I simply recall it was too strange and complicated for my ADD to handle. > I t seems like I was amped up and wanted to salvage it in an erotic manner > but that failed as well....... > so long as I'm looking back, GARBAGE, now there's wholesome film...... > > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 29 07:23:41 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:23:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:10:59 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Sep 29 09:17:24 2008 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:17:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: <200809291123.m8TBNfLk025706@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I've never really understood the cult of playing films over and over again, but there's 3 exceptions on my list, withnail & I, Usual suspects and Diva I guess WaI is a marmite moment... when i first saw it I hated it, got boozed up watched it again and then I understood it... weird init iain M Holmes wrote: > Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > > >> On 27 Sep 2008, at 12:43 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >>> also: "Withnail & I" >>> > > >> This film is, IMO, one of humanity's greatest achievements. >> > > I've seen duller movies ("All Tomorrow's Parties" being the > Hall-of-Famer in that regard) but WaI is pretty well up there. What is > it you thought good about it? > > FoFP > > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Sep 29 10:17:10 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:17:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball In-Reply-To: <200809291123.m8TBNfLk025706@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 29 Sep 2008, at 06:23 , M Holmes wrote: > WaI is pretty well up there. What is > it you thought good about it? It just clicked with me immediately -- and, no, I didn't need to get wasted to appreciate it. ;) I thought the characters are incredibly well-drawn, the writing/dialog was fantastic, and the whole film hung together really well. I've certainly been through my part of living in reduced circumstances in slum-like conditions -- if perhaps not as dodgily or dramatically reduced as those in the film ;) -- but there was plenty that resonated with personal experience. (OK, less the bits about being pursued by someone's outrageously camp uncle, thank heavens! :)). The ending is, I think, a little uncertain (largely because movie is more character-driven than plot-driven, and its hard to know quite how to wrap things up), though largely carried by RE Grant's strong and appropriate-to-the-scene delivery of the Hamlet quotes. I have been given to understand that the original intention was for Withnail to commit suicide, but I think that would have actually been a bit too pat. I think it actually works better with Withnail delivering his final bow to the wolves and drifting off into the rain. I wouldn't change it, I think. It's surely one of the more "quotable" films out there. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Mon Sep 29 10:33:41 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:33:41 +0100 Subject: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit Message-ID: For anyone who couldn't go to the Calvert Tribute Show yesterday I just uploaded a sample audio to the Krankschaft page from last nights Calvert benefit. http://www.krankschaft.com/music.html Krankschaft, electro beat psychedelics coming your way soon.. -Steve From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Sep 29 11:04:58 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:04:58 -0700 Subject: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anybody have a report from the benefit? Gary --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Steve Pond wrote: From: Steve Pond Subject: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 9:33 AM For anyone who couldn't go to the Calvert Tribute Show yesterday I just uploaded a sample audio to the Krankschaft page from last nights Calvert benefit. http://www.krankschaft.com/music.html Krankschaft, electro beat psychedelics coming your way soon.. -Steve From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Sep 29 15:20:16 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:20:16 +0000 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball Message-ID: Its also on time with Hawkwi where I got the name "the embalmer"!!!!!! Its also on time with Hawkwind chronology! late 60s/early 70s......... ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 16:17:10 Subject: Re: OFF: Dodgeball On 29 Sep 2008, at 06:23 , M Holmes wrote: > WaI is pretty well up there. What is > it you thought good about it? It just clicked with me immediately -- and, no, I didn't need to get wasted to appreciate it. ;) I thought the characters are incredibly well-drawn, the writing/dialog was fantastic, and the whole film hung together really well. I've certainly been through my part of living in reduced circumstances in slum-like conditions -- if perhaps not as dodgily or dramatically reduced as those in the film ;) -- but there was plenty that resonated with personal experience. (OK, less the bits about being pursued by someone's outrageously camp uncle, thank heavens! :)). The ending is, I think, a little uncertain (largely because movie is more character-driven than plot-driven, and its hard to know quite how to wrap things up), though largely carried by RE Grant's strong and appropriate-to-the-scene delivery of the Hamlet quotes. I have been given to understand that the original intention was for Withnail to commit suicide, but I think that would have actually been a bit too pat. I think it actually works better with Withnail delivering his final bow to the wolves and drifting off into the rain. I wouldn't change it, I think. It's surely one of the more "quotable" films out there. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Sep 29 18:23:09 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:23:09 +0000 Subject: OFF: Dodgeball Message-ID: Its also on time with Haw where I got the name "the embalmer"!!!!!! Its also on time with Hawkwind chronology! late 60s/early 70s......... the settig of London at the end of the swinging 60s ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, 29 September, 2008 16:17:10 Subject: Re: OFF: Dodgeball On 29 Sep 2008, at 06:23 , M Holmes wrote: > WaI is pretty well up there. What is > it you thought good about it? It just clicked with me immediately -- and, no, I didn't need to get wasted to appreciate it. ;) I thought the characters are incredibly well-drawn, the writing/dialog was fantastic, and the whole film hung together really well. I've certainly been through my part of living in reduced circumstances in slum-like conditions -- if perhaps not as dodgily or dramatically reduced as those in the film ;) -- but there was plenty that resonated with personal experience. (OK, less the bits about being pursued by someone's outrageously camp uncle, thank heavens! :)). The ending is, I think, a little uncertain (largely because movie is more character-driven than plot-driven, and its hard to know quite how to wrap things up), though largely carried by RE Grant's strong and appropriate-to-the-scene delivery of the Hamlet quotes. I have been given to understand that the original intention was for Withnail to commit suicide, but I think that would have actually been a bit too pat. I think it actually works better with Withnail delivering his final bow to the wolves and drifting off into the rain. I wouldn't change it, I think. It's surely one of the more "quotable" films out there. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Mon Sep 29 22:07:37 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:07:37 +0100 Subject: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:33:41 +0100, you sent through the ether: >For anyone who couldn't go to the Calvert Tribute Show yesterday I >just uploaded a sample audio to the Krankschaft page And now I've uploaded the full show, enjoy! http://www.krankschaft.com If anyone took any pictures and you wouldn't mind us using them on the website could you pop some in the mail? ..pretty please? -S. From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 30 09:14:53 2008 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:14:53 +0800 Subject: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Many thanks! 2008/9/30 Steve Pond > On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:33:41 +0100, you sent through the ether: > > >For anyone who couldn't go to the Calvert Tribute Show yesterday I > >just uploaded a sample audio to the Krankschaft page > > > And now I've uploaded the full show, enjoy! > > http://www.krankschaft.com > > If anyone took any pictures and you wouldn't mind us using them on the > website could you pop some in the mail? ..pretty please? > > -S. > > From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Tue Sep 30 09:23:26 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:23:26 +0100 Subject: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been tinkering with the Krankschaft website, it has a forum now amongst other things (If it has 10 messages by year end I'll be surprised) However; As well as having the entire show online we've added a "donate" button, so if you enjoy the music and want to send some money -directly- to Jill Calvert to help with her medical care please do. Once again, the money is going directly to Jill, no middle men at all. Nick Calvert told me this (And I hope he doesn't mind me repeating it here): "Jill obviously cant work and chronic illness is an extremely expensive career choice... I mention this only because the term 'Donation' is slightly ambiguous and if anyone does feel like donating they can rest assured it goes straight to my mother. It will all help to lift the cumulative financial drain she seems to be under (petrol for twice daily car trips to the hospital, bills and what not" We've already raised a decent sum for something that's only been active a few hours, so many thanks to everyone who has contributed! Let's keep it going... -Steve From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 30 10:21:40 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:21:40 +0100 Subject: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809271115k660afce7p428d6f4110b4fc67@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809271421q5c5bf176if64594413dc9a54c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ghasp!...now you have to be executed again 4am tomorrow...leave the front door open -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:21 PM To: Subject: Re: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU >> >> sp- >> I take it you found a ride then? > > > He doesn't go until tomorrow, he's probably drunk... > as you can see, my relationship with Trev has devolved into one of pure > hate > and zero tolerance.....I can usually "chase him off" the BOC-L, but every > now and again he turns up with something quite pathetic and useless to > bellow..... > It's quite sad that the age of the computer has taken away the sanity of > the > atlantic ocean resting between us > It looks like I may have to go offline..... > Since you seem willing to share a stage with alcohol moistened > microphones, > I must try to salvage what I can here.....Trev may have gotten the hump > off > his back when he finally licked his nasty addiction to embalming fluid > back > in the 80's, but the damage was done and now that he is elderly he's > gotten > senile, and doesn't realise in this late stage of the game (no pun > intended), his constant gigging in the UK does no good in preserving the > fact he every existed at all, not to mention doing USA fans very little > good > ....... > at this juncture for him it's all about the product, the pose, and the > marketing (I'm thinking wig, I'm thinking brunette),,,,, > if your garage yeilds fruit, could I get you to consider sending him the > standard issue of my favorite 45, in some snot manner to inlcude a note > "on > loan from mike coleman", since he pretends he's never heard it.......If > you > are going to use him I want him to at least have a reminder of "how it's > done" > and with that out in the open, I have improved upon the "hump on you back" > lyrics (unless everybody else is just wrong), and if anybody cares to shop > them around to eddie clarke or anything, be my guest.... > I don't need no > I don't need no smack > Don't you do it > It'll stop you in your tracks > You might think it's clever > Nodding out forever > With a monkey on your back > Ain't no future > The mainline ain't the way > If you got problems > Face 'em now today > 'Cause there ain't no use in hidin' > While you're watchin' your friends dyin' (could be "girlfriends", take > your > pick) > The Monkey makes you pay > Turn it up! > You might think I > Ain't got no place to preach > But paradise > Is right there in your reach > But I'm here to tell ya > Heroin gonna kill ya > The monkey's just a leach > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 30 10:23:50 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:23:50 +0100 Subject: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU In-Reply-To: <17d80c610809271115k660afce7p428d6f4110b4fc67@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610809271421q5c5bf176if64594413dc9a54c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: so go over again what i have to do. sign the thing with some silver pen...what? you can't expect a person of my stature to deal in common trade...surely??? -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:21 PM To: Subject: Re: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU >> >> sp- >> I take it you found a ride then? > > > He doesn't go until tomorrow, he's probably drunk... > as you can see, my relationship with Trev has devolved into one of pure > hate > and zero tolerance.....I can usually "chase him off" the BOC-L, but every > now and again he turns up with something quite pathetic and useless to > bellow..... > It's quite sad that the age of the computer has taken away the sanity of > the > atlantic ocean resting between us > It looks like I may have to go offline..... > Since you seem willing to share a stage with alcohol moistened > microphones, > I must try to salvage what I can here.....Trev may have gotten the hump > off > his back when he finally licked his nasty addiction to embalming fluid > back > in the 80's, but the damage was done and now that he is elderly he's > gotten > senile, and doesn't realise in this late stage of the game (no pun > intended), his constant gigging in the UK does no good in preserving the > fact he every existed at all, not to mention doing USA fans very little > good > ....... > at this juncture for him it's all about the product, the pose, and the > marketing (I'm thinking wig, I'm thinking brunette),,,,, > if your garage yeilds fruit, could I get you to consider sending him the > standard issue of my favorite 45, in some snot manner to inlcude a note > "on > loan from mike coleman", since he pretends he's never heard it.......If > you > are going to use him I want him to at least have a reminder of "how it's > done" > and with that out in the open, I have improved upon the "hump on you back" > lyrics (unless everybody else is just wrong), and if anybody cares to shop > them around to eddie clarke or anything, be my guest.... > I don't need no > I don't need no smack > Don't you do it > It'll stop you in your tracks > You might think it's clever > Nodding out forever > With a monkey on your back > Ain't no future > The mainline ain't the way > If you got problems > Face 'em now today > 'Cause there ain't no use in hidin' > While you're watchin' your friends dyin' (could be "girlfriends", take > your > pick) > The Monkey makes you pay > Turn it up! > You might think I > Ain't got no place to preach > But paradise > Is right there in your reach > But I'm here to tell ya > Heroin gonna kill ya > The monkey's just a leach > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 30 10:46:55 2008 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:46:55 +0800 Subject: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit In-Reply-To: <1r94e4d5qd1odrdl2o3oslb7ena886lcj2@4ax.com> Message-ID: There's at least one post now. 2008/9/30 Steve Pond > I've been tinkering with the Krankschaft website, it has a forum now > amongst other things (If it has 10 messages by year end I'll be > surprised) > > However; > > As well as having the entire show online we've added a "donate" > button, so if you enjoy the music and want to send some money > -directly- to Jill Calvert to help with her medical care please do. > > Once again, the money is going directly to Jill, no middle men at all. > Nick Calvert told me this (And I hope he doesn't mind me repeating it > here): > > "Jill obviously cant work and chronic illness is an extremely > expensive career choice... I mention this only because the term > 'Donation' is slightly ambiguous and if anyone does feel like donating > they can rest assured it goes straight to my mother. It will all help > to lift the cumulative financial drain she seems to be under (petrol > for twice daily car trips to the hospital, bills and what not" > > We've already raised a decent sum for something that's only been > active a few hours, so many thanks to everyone who has contributed! > > Let's keep it going... > > -Steve > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Sep 30 12:01:47 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:01:47 -0500 Subject: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU In-Reply-To: Message-ID: yes, and I apologize for being so harsh, I was in a terrible mood since I chased the old friends away and the boc-l'ers all have things to do on the weekend (but I'm getting friends again, like NOW!!!) in truth, it may be impossible to completely gloss over your Geritol phase http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geritol, but your years of bottom-feeding wore well for you, and you surely have a year or so left and only some intensive liposuction, facial botox injections and hair dye are needed to get ICU going strong again and then I imagine Steve can keep it going strong!! I'm thinking something like blue might look good (you signing with a paint pen) please be very careful with yourself until this is accomplished!!! mike ps-can I have your hair??? I need a wig On 9/30/08, trev wrote: > > so go over again what i have to do. sign the thing with some silver > pen...what? > > you can't expect a person of my stature to deal in common trade...surely??? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:21 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (Was), gay metal band thread:(Now) the return of ICU > > >>> sp- >>> I take it you found a ride then? >>> >> >> >> He doesn't go until tomorrow, he's probably drunk... >> as you can see, my relationship with Trev has devolved into one of pure >> hate >> and zero tolerance.....I can usually "chase him off" the BOC-L, but every >> now and again he turns up with something quite pathetic and useless to >> bellow..... >> It's quite sad that the age of the computer has taken away the sanity of >> the >> atlantic ocean resting between us >> It looks like I may have to go offline..... >> Since you seem willing to share a stage with alcohol moistened >> microphones, >> I must try to salvage what I can here.....Trev may have gotten the hump >> off >> his back when he finally licked his nasty addiction to embalming fluid >> back >> in the 80's, but the damage was done and now that he is elderly he's >> gotten >> senile, and doesn't realise in this late stage of the game (no pun >> intended), his constant gigging in the UK does no good in preserving the >> fact he every existed at all, not to mention doing USA fans very little >> good >> ....... >> at this juncture for him it's all about the product, the pose, and the >> marketing (I'm thinking wig, I'm thinking brunette),,,,, >> if your garage yeilds fruit, could I get you to consider sending him the >> standard issue of my favorite 45, in some snot manner to inlcude a note >> "on >> loan from mike coleman", since he pretends he's never heard it.......If >> you >> are going to use him I want him to at least have a reminder of "how it's >> done" >> and with that out in the open, I have improved upon the "hump on you back" >> lyrics (unless everybody else is just wrong), and if anybody cares to shop >> them around to eddie clarke or anything, be my guest.... >> I don't need no >> I don't need no smack >> Don't you do it >> It'll stop you in your tracks >> You might think it's clever >> Nodding out forever >> With a monkey on your back >> Ain't no future >> The mainline ain't the way >> If you got problems >> Face 'em now today >> 'Cause there ain't no use in hidin' >> While you're watchin' your friends dyin' (could be "girlfriends", take >> your >> pick) >> The Monkey makes you pay >> Turn it up! >> You might think I >> Ain't got no place to preach >> But paradise >> Is right there in your reach >> But I'm here to tell ya >> Heroin gonna kill ya >> The monkey's just a leach >> >> From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 30 22:12:24 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:12:24 -0700 Subject: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for doing "All the Machines Are Quiet." Enjoyed it. Gary --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Steve Pond wrote: From: Steve Pond Subject: Re: NIK: Krankschaft at the Calvert Benefit To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 9:07 PM On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:33:41 +0100, you sent through the ether: >For anyone who couldn't go to the Calvert Tribute Show yesterday I >just uploaded a sample audio to the Krankschaft page And now I've uploaded the full show, enjoy! http://www.krankschaft.com If anyone took any pictures and you wouldn't mind us using them on the website could you pop some in the mail? ..pretty please? -S.