HW: Welcome to the Future

mike coleman insect.brain at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jun 10 12:13:18 EDT 2008


thanks for doing that Steve, I just played the second disc, where curiously
my hex on the last track is gone....Jon did you cause this???  so anyway, my
take is this: FWIW .....there is sneaky things in them hills.....the Angels
Of Life is so freekin' awesome that if this version in it's exactness (as
found here) isn't to be had elsewhere then the virtual wallets must come
out.......

On 6/8/08, Steve Youles <youless at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Taking Jon's questions in reverse order...
>
> I just A/B listened to the version on the Welcome To The Future comp, which
> the Codex accounts as 1L, along with that found on 'Silver Machine'
> (Hallmark
> compilation) which is claimed to be 1aL.
>
> They may well be different mixes.  The WTTF version has a much hotter audio
> signal so I was hearing more detail as a result, but I am sure both of
> these are
> from the same performance, because of the melodies played on the wibbly
> keyboard parts that sound rather flute-like.  However the 1aL version fades
> out on Brock's vocals where the one on WTTF continues on (and on)
> eventually getting to some Bob Calvert ranting.  In that sense, the oft-
> compiled version 1aL is definitely cut by comparison with WTTF's 1L.
>
> (I wonder if the hotter signal on 1L indicates it's a desk recording, with
> the
> dingier-sounding 1aL being an audience recording? That would certainly be
> consistent with apparently different mixes...)
>
> Re: Cake Out or Hash Cake '77 as it is often called... Although WTTF's
> sleeve
> notes claim this is from Stonehenge 77, I have an audience recording of
> that
> performance and it's not included.  As with 'Slap It On Der Table' and
> Watchfield, I think it has become erroneously associated with a particular
> free
> festival because it first saw light of day on the old "Hawkwind Live at
> Stonehenge and Watchfield" vinyl bootleg album.
>
> Both sound like rehearsal room / recording studio jams to me. FWIW.
>
> Steve
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 18:24:12 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett
> <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK> wrote:
>
> >       Dear All,
> >                 a little while ago I picked up a 2CD comp called this,
> >because it united a load of Weird Tapes and extra material I'd never
> >managed to pick up. I see that the Codex knows of it, but for others
> >I'll just say that it has the Watchfield Festival triplet, most of the
> >set from _Atomhenge 76_ (lacking only `Uncle Sam's on Mars' and `Time
> >for Sale', which is just as well I suppose because otherwise I'd have a
> >redundant CD), and on disc 2 the Stonehenge 1977 and Sonic Assassins
> >sets. Several of these things I'd never heard before, and so I wondered
> >if people could answer what may be some pretty basic questions.
> >
> >       Firstly, what on earth is `Slap It On The Table'? It's not a
> >live track at all, is it? How did it get lumped with the Watchfield
> >stuff?
> >
> >       Secondly, is `Cake Out' genuinely part of the Stonehenge set? It
> >doesn't sound like the same mix to me but it's hard to be sure, and of
> >course it might not be the same mix and still be from the same original
> >tape.
> >
> >       Thirdly, how on earth did the original, as I assume this is,
> >recording of the Sonic Assassins `Angels of Life', codex # 1L, get
> >turned into the one we know from infinite comps, codex ' 1aL? The codex
> >says the latter is a cut, but it's more than that surely, the guitar and
> >keyboard balance is quite different in the `Angels' section, and some of
> >the vocals are too; is this is just editing? Wow. And who bothered, and
> >why?
> >
> >       I suppose the answers to these may not be known, but equally
> >maybe they are and I just always missed them before because of not
> >having heard the right bits... Grateful for any answers, yours,
> >
>        Jon
> >
> >
> >ObCD: Love - _Comes in Colours_
> >--
> >"When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"
> >           (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)
> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
>



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