From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 1 05:00:23 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 05:00:23 -0400 Subject: Blade Runner soundtrack article In-Reply-To: <118758.40753.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: PKD is 1 of my favorite authors, and I own 1 vangelisalbum, Albedo 0.39, I always liked their music, and really like that of Aphrodite's child, too. I couldn't afford to delve into their music due to lack of cash, you know where I'm at concerning that. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:48 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Blade Runner soundtrack article "Massive Attack's triumphant rendering of Vangelis' Blade Runner soundtrack with the Heritage Orchestra helps the movie legend live on." http://tinyurl. com/4n888p Al From bigwibble6 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 2 07:13:21 2008 From: bigwibble6 at YAHOO.CO.UK (big mike) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:13:21 +0000 Subject: HW + related on official tape (rare) Message-ID: Is anyone interested in the following tapes, very reasonable rates, act quickly or else they will go to a charity shop and be unloved All legitimately bought tapes Harvey B Invisible Warrior, Alman Mulo Band Afrodiziac, Alman Mulo Band Interstellar Chaos, Harvey Bainbridge Nik Turner, plays flutes on some tracks on Water from the well, Mazlyn Jones Mazlyn Jones, Mazlyn Jones (5th album, 1991) The maximum effect, ICU (trev tape) Imperial Pompadours, Ersatz, from ICU merchandise 11, waterloo st Maxout, ICU Trev Thoms Maiden Voyage, Iron maiden (1970) Huw L-L Widowmaker, widowmaker (jet records) Dave brock Dave Brock and the agents of chaos (flicknife) Bob Calvert Centigrade 232, (harbour publications) Simon House interesting times, High tide 3 Hawkwind Independent days 2 (flicknife) Night riding, (compilation), KNMC10017 And the covers all project, tapes 1 to 4 If anyone is interested drop me a line swiftly mike (big) From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jul 2 11:35:52 2008 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:35:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: Fire of Unknown Origin reprinted? Message-ID: Got this from Amazon after sorting Blue Oyser Cult by release date: Audio CD (February 1, 2008) Original Release Date: June 1981 Number of Discs: 1 Label: Sbme Special Mkts. ASIN: B0012GMVFS it's fire of unknown origin, no extra tracks, no indication of being re-anythinged. and who/what is sbme? sony in a parallel universe (or in foreign markets?) Anyone seen this disc? J. (if this is the 2nd time you've seen this email, apologies. Wasn't sure if the 1st time went through.) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 2 13:54:28 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:54:28 -0500 Subject: BOC: Fire of Unknown Origin reprinted? In-Reply-To: <2cb5b31c166f3560e5e42a53d59c7d63@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Perhaps just a straight reissue, as with Imaginos? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 2 13:58:51 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:58:51 -0500 Subject: Blade Runner soundtrack article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 01 Jul 2008, at 04:00 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > I own 1 vangelisalbum, Albedo 0.39, I > always liked their music, and really like that of Aphrodite's > child, too. Oh, yeah, a friend played me the _666_ album shortly before I left the UK, and some of it is pretty far out! There's a nice 2CD reissue of that, I think, but I haven't got it either. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 2 15:34:18 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:34:18 -0700 Subject: BOC: Fire of Unknown Origin reprinted? Message-ID: I thought I remembered someone (Al?) saying that FOUO was slated to get the remastering treatment next? This doesn't look like it though.... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jason Scruton Date: Wednesday, Jul 2, 2008 11:38 am Subject: BOC: Fire of Unknown Origin reprinted? To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Got this from Amazon after sorting Blue Oyser Cult by release date: Audio CD (February 1, 2008) Original Release Date: June 1981 Number of Discs: 1 Label: Sbme Special Mkts. ASIN: B0012GMVFS it's fire of unknown origin, no extra tracks, no indication of being re-anythinged. and who/what is sbme? sony in a parallel universe (or in foreign markets?) Anyone seen this disc? J. (if this is the 2nd time you've seen this email, apologies. Wasn't sure if the 1st time went through.) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jul 4 09:49:27 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:49:27 +0100 Subject: HW: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 09:20:24AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > So I don't think the perceived problem in Hawkwind's case is > necessarily that of digital vs. analogue, even though surely Brock & > Co. probably have more years of experience in the analogue realm than > the digital. I think it's more that recording with a system like > Logic makes it incredibly easy to apply fantastic amounts of tweaking > and processing to everything, to add new layers than then tweak and > process them into the middle of next week as well. This is an > awesome temptation for the musician! And I think this is what > results in the kind of "muffled" sound Mike refers to -- it's > something I've noticed more an more of over the last decade or so of > Hawkwind records, particularly in the most recent studio outputs. I > think they (or Dave anyway) are just overcooking everything, > producing everything to death with piles of tweaking and effects. > When you've been working on a track for a few months and have become > way to familiar with every part in it, you adjust a few extra things > here and there and slip some new bit in -- and suddenly it sounds > great to you again .... But to the casual listener who never heard it > before, and may never hear it until they buy the disc, rip the song > to some relatively low bit rate MP3 and crank it through their iPod > earbuds ... it just sounds glossily muffled. For what it's worth, I think this is on the button. Now that one can produce records to professional standard on home equipment the pressure is kind of off. I think DarXtar's _Tombola_, which was held up for so many years, caught this even worse than TMTYL. A fine album, but on headphones the original music sounds almost as if it was being broadcast from a speaker in a recess in the studio wall where S?ren was putting on another year's set of overlays... I think TMTYL caught this too to a lesser degree. Compare that to the Mot?rhead-like work ethic of Bedouin, which Alan once expressed to me as being ready and able to record all the songs first take, because you know them and you can and you may not have long in the studio, and it's easy to see how he and the Captain could have a difference of opinion about how long it should take to make an album... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jul 4 10:29:19 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:29:19 +0100 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610806200744v1961e441o9a6d4372173f14ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 09:44:32AM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > so while you guys get the technical part all patched up how's about this: > return to original mission statement: band is a black nightmare out to make > people's head's and sphincters explode.... > slap governments in face and reduce to little schoolgirls.... This is one of those things where people seem to remember it different, innit, most especially Lemmy and Nik, though I was listening to _1999 Party_ last night, with Nik doing his best menace over `Warriors at the Edge of Time' and thinking: "Nah. You were into the scary schtick then, mate, you just don't want to remember it that way". Which may be unfair, but it doesn't sound it on that recording. > my comment about Silver Machine popping up meant this to me: Lemmy is on > good terms with band......? Unless my ears deceive me, that's not a new recording of Lemmy on TMYTF's `Silver Machine' alas, it's the old single mixed into the main recording. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Jul 4 10:41:35 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:41:35 -0500 Subject: HW: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080704134927.GA12630@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 04 Jul 2008, at 08:49 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Compare that to the Mot?rhead-like work ethic of Bedouin, which > Alan once expressed to me as being ready and able to record all the > songs first take, because you know them and you can and you may not > have > long in the studio, and it's easy to see how he and the Captain could > have a difference of opinion about how long it should take to make an > album... Good point! Though, from what I've heard of Gunslinger, they should have taken a bit a few more minutes in the studio to bring the drums up a bit. Alan's bass is perhaps a bit _too_ over powering! (Did I really say that? Shame on me! ;) No, really, since Gunslinger's musical ethic/ vibe is pretty strongly derived from that of Motorhead, if you listen to the GS tracks alongside a recent MH track, GS is a bit "spacier", but mostly I notice Mickey Dee's snare much fatter and more present in the mix. Ah well, splitting hairs perhaps (if not snares .....) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jul 4 13:37:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:37:06 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080704142919.GB12630@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: > > This is one of those things where people seem to remember it > different, innit, most especially Lemmy and Nik, though I was listening > to _1999 Party_ last night, with Nik doing his best menace over > `Warriors at the Edge of Time' and thinking: "Nah. You were into the > scary schtick then, mate, you just don't want to remember it that way". *well we disagree again....I think Nik doing those vocals is as good as it ever got (for an american who wasn't at HW gigs then) and in fact I mailed Nik about this very thing a few months ago* *I liked Nik doing the vocals on stuff like that the very best..;;;;just my opinion, not saying it's the right one or the best one....I have stated before that I always considered Nik the other head of a two-headed Hawk, and quite frankly, I wish to god he could get along with Dave, and not over-honk, because I wish he was in Hawkwind......I hope he dirched the white alien-spikey suit by now though...* > Unless my ears deceive me, that's not a new recording of Lemmy > on TMYTF's `Silver Machine' alas, it's the old single mixed into the > main recording. Yours, > *Oh I'm sure it is, but wouldn't Lemmy know it was being used??, etc, > etc...* From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jul 4 17:28:48 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 22:28:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: TMTYL (now off) In-Reply-To: <676FD345-A719-456C-88C4-D8E6D102EA84@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:50:35PM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > On 20 Jun 2008, at 12:23 , mike coleman wrote: > >I don't download anything nor know how even if this old Dell with > >windows 98 would do it > > Probably "yes", though might quickly fill up your hard-drive. FWIW, this old P333 with Win 98SE plays MP3s quite happily, and streams Roadburn stuff with a certain amount of faff; but that's software not machine power. It can't cope wth YouTube but music it will fine. The hard drive is nearly full; I had to choose quite carefully which ?resund Space Collective jams I *really wanted* a while back... All the same, I think you can assume you can at least listen to stuff if you have a decent web connection. Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _The 1999 Party_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jul 4 17:56:14 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:56:14 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind on Imaginos Message-ID: yes, my semi-authorized 2 disc commemoritive cdr set "The Invaders", that if not to die for must at least be to mame for, beginning with tv series narrative "The Invaders, alien being from a dying planet", leading into lighhouse,,,,,seems to be on Imaginos label....could there be a loose connection?? but now that I got your attention, I am once again desperately seeking a human head hunt......the mysterious duo from another world like myself that called themselves Cerberus and assumed names of Gary and Anna if they have not retuned to their home star system and someone has their co-ordinates I need them...... Roy T, aka MC From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 4 19:30:19 2008 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:30:19 -0400 Subject: SPAM: HARD TO FIND HAWKWIND ON EBAY In-Reply-To: <20080618170202.54F1256BD0@mx01.guardian.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Hawkfans. Sorry for the SPAM. I have one copy each of the original CD releases of Chronicle of the Black Sword and Warrior on the Edge of Time for sale on Ebay, ending tomorrow. I thought some of you might be looking for these Thanks, Eli From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jul 4 17:36:56 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 22:36:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: TMTYL (now off) In-Reply-To: <20080704212848.GC12630@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Old Del was some old lady mohawker-hobbit with a pick axe in Canada! > On 20 Jun 2008, at 12:23 , mike coleman wrote: > >I don't download anything nor know how even if this old Dell with > >windows 98 would do it > --------------------------------- Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! From jt_ at COX.NET Sat Jul 5 18:02:13 2008 From: jt_ at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:02:13 -0500 Subject: BOC: Fire of Unknown Origin reprinted? In-Reply-To: <2cb5b31c166f3560e5e42a53d59c7d63@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Jason Scruton wrote: > Got this from Amazon after sorting Blue Oyser Cult by release date: > > Audio CD (February 1, 2008) > Original Release Date: June 1981 > Number of Discs: 1 > Label: Sbme Special Mkts. > ASIN: B0012GMVFS > > it's fire of unknown origin, no extra tracks, no indication of being > re-anythinged. > > and who/what is sbme? sony in a parallel universe (or in foreign markets?) > Anyone seen this disc? Yeah, must be Sony BMG. Maybe calling it a "reussue" will prompt record stores to buy an obligatory CD to stock. That's why they keep issuing compilations. From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Jul 7 13:16:17 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:16:17 -0700 Subject: Fw: [Up-Tight] An essential taster of space rock: Hawkwind: Space Ritual (1973) Message-ID: --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Telstar wrote: From: Telstar Subject: [Up-Tight] An essential taster of space rock: Hawkwind: Space Ritual (1973) To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 7:33 AM "Born out of the late-1960s psychedelic movement just as humans set foot on the Moon for the first time, space rock was invented by and for people who wanted to fly high but weren't interested in using a spacecraft to do their astral gazing. Blending sci-fi-inspired lyrics and experimental instrumental passages, the music was dedicated to exploring the limits of inner and outer space." http://tinyurl. com/Hawkwind Al __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Polls MARKETPLACE Yahoo! Groups users, check out this limited time offer from Blockbuster! Rent DVDs free for a month! Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity ?2 New PhotosVisit Your Group Best of Y! Groups Discover groups that are the best of their class. Moderator Central Yahoo! Groups Join and receive produce updates. Yahoo! Groups Join a program to help you find balance in your life. . __,_._,___ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Jul 7 17:46:37 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:46:37 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind again Message-ID: "Born out of the late-1960s psychedelic movement just as humans set foot on the Moon for the first time, space rock was invented by and for people who wanted to fly high but weren't interested in using a spacecraft to do their astral gazing. Blending sci-fi-inspired lyrics and experimental instrumental passages, the music was dedicated to exploring the limits of inner and outer space." http://tinyurl. com/Hawkwind Al From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 7 18:18:43 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Humannoyed) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:18:43 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind again In-Reply-To: <580393.41208.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: re: uptight: try a copy of the december 18, 1981 show further, this copy of you volume.2 on the essential label has brought an indication of life on the timeship control panel.... michaelohim On 7/7/08, gary shindler wrote: > > "Born out of the late-1960s psychedelic movement just as humans set foot on > the Moon for the first time, space rock was invented by and for people who > wanted to fly high but weren't interested in using a spacecraft to do their > astral gazing. Blending sci-fi-inspired lyrics and experimental > instrumental > passages, the music was dedicated to exploring the limits of inner and > outer > space." > > http://tinyurl. com/Hawkwind > > Al > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 7 18:22:27 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Humannoyed) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:22:27 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind again (and off again) Message-ID: whoop, though it'll likey be all uphill, the you vl.2 is on the exposure label....... On 7/7/08, Humannoyed wrote: > > re: uptight: try a copy of the december 18, 1981 show > further, this copy of you volume.2 on the essential label has brought an > indication of life on the timeship control panel.... > michaelohim > > On 7/7/08, gary shindler wrote: >> >> "Born out of the late-1960s psychedelic movement just as humans set foot >> on >> the Moon for the first time, space rock was invented by and for people who >> wanted to fly high but weren't interested in using a spacecraft to do >> their >> astral gazing. Blending sci-fi-inspired lyrics and experimental >> instrumental >> passages, the music was dedicated to exploring the limits of inner and >> outer >> space." >> >> http://tinyurl. com/Hawkwind >> >> Al >> >> >> >> >> > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Tue Jul 8 07:17:56 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:17:56 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock Radio Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JULY 8, 2008: NEW RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #203). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #203) Jet Jaguar - "Commandos of the New Sun" (from 3rd Millennium Power Drive) La Otracina - "Fight For The Night" (from The Risk of Gravitation) Colour Haze - "One" (from All) Nole Plastique - "Wavy Red" (from Escaperhead) Space Debris - "Japanese Girl" (from Elephant Moon) St. John Green - "7th Generation Mutation" (from St. John Green) Ra Can Row - "Things Beyond Our Control" (from Ra Can Row) Poseidotica - "Campo Magnetico" (from La Distancia) El Festival de los Viajes - "Conjuro de Los Matados" (from El Festival de los Viajes) Radio Eris - "Shining Silver" (from The Cruel Tutelage of Master Hotei or Who is Toulouse Turac?) Allison - "Everyday Sunday" (from People From Outer Space) No Man's Land - "News From The Sun" (from Home In The Sky) Ghost - "Rabirabi" (from Lama Rabi Rabi) Earthling Society - "Valerie A Tyden Divu" (from Beauty And The Beast) The Barbarellatones - "Temple of Shiva" (from Temple of Shiva) Space Probe Taurus - "Snakebirth" (from Space Probe Taurus) Anubis - "Masquerade" (from Sibuna) Man - "7171 551" (from Maximum Darkness) http://Aural-Innovations.com From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jul 8 14:14:09 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:14:09 +0000 Subject: upcoming ONE EYED BISHOPS shows Message-ID: upcoming ONE EYED BISHOPS shows Jul 18 2008 7:30P The Raven Lounge Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Aug 23 2008 8:30P Uncle Mike?s New York (Tribeca section ), New York Aug 28 2008 7:30P Championships Sports Bar & Grill Trenton, New Jersey Sep 25 2008 8:00P Memories Lounge: POSTPONED Richland, New Jersey Sep 26 2008 8:00P The Blue Room Lounge Secaucus, New Jersey Oct 12 2008 7:30P Fig Cafe & Hookah Bar Jenkintown, Pennsylvania Oct 28 2008 8:00P The Dive Philadelphia, Pennsylvania For complete details of individual gigs visit our site at:http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 8 22:05:21 2008 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 22:05:21 -0400 Subject: (SPAM) Hawkwind Shirts On Ebay Message-ID: HI. I must apologize once more for spamming everybody. I listed 25 Hawkwind shirts from my collection on Ebay today, including a few very rare ones. Also quite a few for ten dollars each. I also listed some Ozric Tentacles shirts, and one of those Ozric Tentacles Vitamin Enhanced 6 CD cereal box sets.All the auctions run until Sunday. Thanks for any interest. Yours, Eli From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Jul 11 11:26:15 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:26:15 -0700 Subject: Lemmy at 'em Message-ID: Jason Heller writes: "From Blabbermouth: Ian "Lemmy" Kilmister, former Hawkwind member and the longtime singer/bassist/ wart-wielder of metal legend Mot?rhead, has pissed off some Germans by wearing what appears to be a Nazi hat (see below) for a photo shoot for a German newspaper." http://tinyurl. com/Lemmyatthem I laughed out loud at this: "In related news: Lemmy can do whatever the fuck he wants. Who's gonna stop him? You?" Al From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jul 12 08:18:48 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:18:48 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks Message-ID: I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get them Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like that I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member with her, and her brother is on the way.... mike ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's wish.... From kruch7 at COX.NET Sat Jul 12 08:36:33 2008 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Joseph Elric Smith) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:36:33 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks Message-ID: OMG that is horrible, my thoughts and prayers with the family ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? Blog http://www.aeonity.com/arioch http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike coleman" To: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:18 AM Subject: important sad news folks >I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > them > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like > that > I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member > with her, and her brother is on the way.... > mike > ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > wish.... > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.9/1548 - Release Date: 7/12/2008 7:40 AM From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jul 12 18:43:44 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:43:44 +0100 Subject: important sad news folks Message-ID: oh - that is unbelievably sad news. My deepest sympathies to Mary. jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike coleman" To: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: important sad news folks >I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > them > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like > that > I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member > with her, and her brother is on the way.... > mike > ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > wish.... > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 14 07:30:03 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:30:03 +0100 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:18:48 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jul 14 11:28:59 2008 From: pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET (Pam & Cliff) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:28:59 -0600 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <200807141130.m6EBU3UG024356@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Please pass mine on as well. Hugz to Mary from me! Pam M Holmes wrote: > mike coleman writes: > > >> I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get >> them >> Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us >> he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like that >> I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member >> with her, and her brother is on the way.... >> mike >> ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's >> wish.... >> > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > Please pass on my condolences... > > Mike > > From michael.crosby3 at NTLWORLD.COM Mon Jul 14 12:42:31 2008 From: michael.crosby3 at NTLWORLD.COM (Mik) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:42:31 +0100 Subject: important sad news folks Message-ID: Coming out of lurking mode to send my condolences to Mary, I think we can all agree Chris will be sadly missed by the Hawkwind family. -------------------------------------------------- From: "M Holmes" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:30 PM To: Subject: Re: important sad news folks > mike coleman writes: > >> I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get >> them >> Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us >> he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like >> that >> I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member >> with her, and her brother is on the way.... >> mike >> ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's >> wish.... > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > Please pass on my condolences... > > Mike > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jul 14 14:09:54 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:09:54 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is tragic news, especially as it seems Chris was just getting the chance to start putting things back together. My sincerest condolences to Mary! :( Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jul 14 14:20:06 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:20:06 +0000 Subject: OEBs w/ Stewkey of NAZZ in center city Philadelphia July 18tH Message-ID: OEBs w/ Stewkey of NAZZ in center city Philadelphia July 18t Nice lounge show at 'The Raven' in Rittenhouse Square:visit: http://www.myspace.com/theravenlounge for more information:lineup:Mike Burro: guitar/vocalsStewkey : vocalsJeff Berry: bassMaria Stella : vocals, percussionalso see:http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkey _________________________________________________________________ The i?m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Mon Jul 14 14:27:08 2008 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:27:08 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting Carl Edlund Anderson : > This is tragic news, especially as it seems Chris was just getting the > chance to start putting things back together. My sincerest condolences > to Mary! :( Mine as well. I still remember him engineering us during the Ossian's Ride sessions. "It's ok that David's synth is loud. We'll balance it during the mix!" :-) -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Saturn comes back around to show you everything Lets you choose what you will not see and then Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again Spits you out like a child, light and innocent." The Grudge - TOOL From zim594j at TNINET.SE Mon Jul 14 15:31:33 2008 From: zim594j at TNINET.SE (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:31:33 +0200 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <20080714142708.6j9e8k2aogc4wogs-qxhmavpx@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: My condolences to Mary! Sincerely, Kenneth From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jul 14 15:48:33 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:48:33 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: when this kind of thing happens, there really isn't anything you can say (and I'm speaking about directly talking to a person who has just had this happen), but something did occur to me that I believe: he was where he was "supposed" to be and where he would want to be when it occured: with his wife. Mary will TOTALLY appreciate you all, I GUARANTEE THAT On 7/14/08, Kenneth Magnusson wrote: > > My condolences to Mary! > > Sincerely, > Kenneth > From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Jul 15 05:12:27 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:12:27 +0200 Subject: OFF. Chris Bruce Message-ID: Hej It is sure sad news as Chris was really rebuilding his life again. I had exchanged 5 mails with him just last week as we were trying to locate the old electronic music artist, David Prescott, who used to play with Doug Walker. He sold all his synths and moved to Vermont.. NO one seems to know where he is. Anyway.. it is a loss for the Hawkwind community as I know that Chris had soundboard recordings of at least two Hawkwind shows in PCM format that have never been circulated. Asbury Park 1991 is one of them. I even never got to hear this one when he had a working PCM deck and we were looking through all the tapes back in 1992 and I got a direct copy of the Minneapolis soundboards that he made. Chris and Mary also have or had quite a bit of uncirculated video as well (Portland, etc..). Maybe, with some help, Mary will be able to find this stuff for the community and the band. It must be tough. All the best to Mary and her family.... scott www.oresundspacecollective.com From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 15 07:19:23 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:19:23 -0700 Subject: important sad news folks Message-ID: When I got seriously into Hawkwind in the early 90s Chris, Mary and the Kadu Flyer were already legendary in the fan community. I'm sorry I never got to meet him. And my sincerest condolances to Mary. Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Saturday, Jul 12, 2008 8:23 am Subject: important sad news folks To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get them Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like that I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member with her, and her brother is on the way.... mike ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's wish.... From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 15 09:13:23 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:13:23 +0100 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <200807141130.m6EBU3UG024356@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> <20080714142708.6j9e8k2aogc4wogs-qxhmavpx@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: My thoughts are with you , Mary Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth Magnusson" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:31 PM To: Subject: Re: important sad news folks > My condolences to Mary! > > Sincerely, > Kenneth > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jul 15 09:57:13 2008 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:57:13 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ...and Rich and my thoughts go out to you as well. Take care! Arin On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, trev wrote: :Subject: Re: important sad news folks : :My thoughts are with you , Mary : :Trev : :-------------------------------------------------- :From: "Kenneth Magnusson" :Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:31 PM :To: :Subject: Re: important sad news folks : :> My condolences to Mary! :> :> Sincerely, :> Kenneth :> : -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-6090 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jul 15 10:24:34 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:24:34 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Though this is only really important to me personally, Chris provided me with my introduction to studio recording and a love for that sort of thing that stays with me today, for all that I'm an amateur hobbyist whose "studio" is a computer desk in a bedroom corner. Back when things were still difficult to record at home, Chris gave me discounts on studio time :) and was a tremendous help as my first ever band and the demo projects felt their ways onto tape, as well as introducing me to the (also much missed) Larry Boyd. These things were then, and remain today, important parts of my life and I'll always appreciated them. Chris will never be forgotten and what he did for me and many other Hawkwfans and people who knew him will remain valued. Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 15 10:47:52 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:47:52 +0100 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:24:34 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jul 15 11:36:20 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:36:20 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <200807151447.m6FElqDX019954@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 15 Jul 2008, at 09:47 , M Holmes wrote: > I hope we can get a song dedicated to Chris at Hawkfest. If anyone > is in > contact with the Captain at present, that would be worth > mentioning. The > fans, and I'm sure Mary, would appreciate it. Good idea! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 15 11:56:11 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:56:11 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <200807151447.m6FElqDX019954@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: If I had the means, I'd be there. I know our fine Captain will make the right decission. Will people please send me modern showsincluding this year's HF? I don't know when I'll ever learn bit torent with my voice software, and lack of instructions. I am lost out of syberspace, trying to look in. Of course, all this is nothing when I compare to losing Chris, I keep expecting him to call, or something. Peace, Marys -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:48 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > Chris will never be forgotten and what he did for me and many other > Hawkwfans and people who knew him will remain valued. I hope we can get a song dedicated to Chris at Hawkfest. If anyone is in contact with the Captain at present, that would be worth mentioning. The fans, and I'm sure Mary, would appreciate it. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 15 12:06:13 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:06:13 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <200807151447.m6FElqDX019954@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I forgot to tell you, that's a kind thought, and idea. It's funny, I turned him on to Hawkwind,being a sound envgineer, and lover of psychedelic music, he got into them right away. Hawkwind were very kind to me for allowing me to travel as a crew member, I sort of got my way in, with Captain Dave's permission by doing our free newsletter. Doing Hawkwind music was always a lot of fun for cChris, it's a bitter sweet memory, right now, as they all are. I thank everyone from Spaceship Hawkwind for writing. Please forgive any errors in transmission, gotto fly, need to make arrangements for Chris. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:48 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > Chris will never be forgotten and what he did for me and many other > Hawkwfans and people who knew him will remain valued. I hope we can get a song dedicated to Chris at Hawkfest. If anyone is in contact with the Captain at present, that would be worth mentioning. The fans, and I'm sure Mary, would appreciate it. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 15 12:08:06 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:08:06 +0100 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Mary Sullivan's message of Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:56:11 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jul 15 14:16:25 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:16:25 +0000 Subject: OEB version of 'Hurry on Sundown' with NIk Turner now online Message-ID: Greetings friends, we have upoaded a version of 'Hurry On Sundown' recorded in 2004 on NIk Turner's 'Future Cities of the Past tour'.The song was recorded at 'The Court Tavern', in New Brunswick, New Jersey; USAThe lineup featured here is:Mike Burro: electric guitar/vocalsJay Adcock : drumkitJaimie Dejesus: bassGreg Elwell: electric guitarNIk Turner : saxhere it at: http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From frank.weil at COMCAST.NET Tue Jul 15 22:18:13 2008 From: frank.weil at COMCAST.NET (Frank) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:18:13 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <3298951164.8281920@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: No mere words can make the loss any less devastating, but my sincerest condolances to Mary, family, and friends. Frank From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 17 04:25:59 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:25:59 +0100 Subject: BOC - UK Tour Dates Announced! In-Reply-To: <3297398298.7971638@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 04:58:19AM -0700, Steve Swann typed out: > And btw, all official released versions of the film feature the Vangelis soundtrack. And the Director's Cut has a very dramatic abrupt ending, with the elevator doors slamming in your face, which then cuts immediately to the closing credits featuring said banging synthesizer music that started this chat. :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > Date: Thursday, Jun 26, 2008 7:04 pm > Subject: Re: BOC - UK Tour Dates Announced! > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > You are charged to fare forth and bring back a copy of Vangelis's > _Blade Runner_ soundtrack. It's quite good. :) I think more important than Carl's mission is that I rewatch the film, in any version, seeing as I plainly didn't have my ears switched on when last I did! Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 17 07:27:00 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:27:00 -0700 Subject: BOC - UK Tour Dates Announced! Message-ID: I fully support this plan of action! :) If you can, see the 2008 Final Cut version that recently made the theaters. Otherwise the Director's Cut version from the early 90s - the Final Cut version is nicely remastered**, but in terms of content they're 99% the same. -Steve ** minor quibble with the remastering - it made most of the scenes look f-- phenomenal, but in some ways that causes the scenes shot on low-light film stock to look even more obviously grainy by contrast with the awe inspiring clarity of the rest... -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jarrett Date: Thursday, Jul 17, 2008 4:31 am Subject: Re: BOC - UK Tour Dates Announced! To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET I think more important than Carl's mission is that I rewatch the film, in any version, seeing as I plainly didn't have my ears switched on when last I did! Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Jul 17 14:06:39 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:06:39 +0000 Subject: article about upcoming OEB show in Emusic Newswite Message-ID: http://emusicwire.org/10089060/iowa-punkers-to-bill-with-classic-rockers-in-trenton.html _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008 From drgoon at MAC.COM Fri Jul 18 12:57:38 2008 From: drgoon at MAC.COM (Gordon Hundley) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:57:38 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807120518v337c0792n7bbcd4c63b6349bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Terrible loss. My thoughts are with you Mary. Gordon From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jul 20 07:00:06 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:00:06 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio: Rod Summers/VEC Audio Dramas Special Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JULY 20, 2008: NEW RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #204). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #204) Rod Summers/VEC Audio Dramas Special Here's something quite different for Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio. Rod Summers is a veteran audio artist, having bought his first tape recorder in 1960, and, as an outgrowth of his involvement in the international mail art network, organized the VEC Audio Exchange Project, which produced 16 compilation tapes between 1978-1983. Rod recently shared several CDs of his work spanning several years. One of the standouts was the Two Audio Dramas CD, which struck me as inventive, humorous, and wildly OUT THERE. Tune in and hear two radio plays, with a 10 minute cosmic musical piece between the two plays. These are older recordings but are good fun to listen to and I couldn't resist sharing them with my listeners. Given that this is a Space Rock show I imagine this will bring a smile to the faces of Robert Calvert fans. [Track 1: 0:00-46:00] Helgi Saga >From the CD notes: The audio-drama Helgi Saga was written and recorded from May to November 1985. Inspiration sources for the original story were many and various but the main ones were my Viking friends Helgi "The Turtle" Fridjonsson and Por Elis Palsson, the Icelandic sagas, especially Burnt Njall's Saga, and the Bible, book of Ezekial, chapter one from verse four. The story itself is a black comedy about the progress of a noble Viking who, whilst at battle on behalf of a Norwegian king, has a close encounter of the third kind with robot representatives from Cosmic Control. [Track 2: 46:00-56:00] Sagara (cosmic music) [Track 3: 56:00-71:00] The Saga of Brjan The Raud & The Scoring Technique In Cribbage An audio drama & sound poem by Rod Summers For for lots of detailed information about Rod's work and history, including audio and interviews you can visit: http://maastrichtmoetjehoren.blogspot.com/search/label/rod%20summers http://Aural-Innovations.com From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 13:43:53 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:43:53 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <003001c8e6ea$33f418b0$6402a8c0@E510> Message-ID: Hi Frank, You're right, words don't mean anything right now, actions do, and I thank you for your kind thoughts. Peace, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:18 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks No mere words can make the loss any less devastating, but my sincerest condolances to Mary, family, and friends. Frank From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 13:53:55 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:53:55 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Arin, I'm trying to take care, but there doesn't really seem to be much reason to bother, the best part of my life is gone. Thanks for your kind thoughts. Happy summer, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks ...and Rich and my thoughts go out to you as well. Take care! Arin On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, trev wrote: :Subject: Re: important sad news folks : :My thoughts are with you , Mary : :Trev : :-------------------------------------------------- :From: "Kenneth Magnusson" :Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:31 PM :To: :Subject: Re: important sad news folks : :> My condolences to Mary! :> :> Sincerely, :> Kenneth :> : -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-6090 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 14:03:58 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:03:58 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kenith, Thanks for being so thoughtful, I'm kind of at a loss for words, they don't do me much good right now. Best wishes, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Kenneth Magnusson Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:32 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks My condolences to Mary! Sincerely, Kenneth From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 14:14:01 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:01 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <487B70BB.2000301@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hi Pam and Cliff, Thanks for the psychic hug and vibes. I feel mostly dead inside, but I hope that changes, eventually. Your friend, Mary P.S. I hope business is picking up for you. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Pam & Cliff Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks Please pass mine on as well. Hugz to Mary from me! Pam M Holmes wrote: > mike coleman writes: > > >> I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get >> them >> Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us >> he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like that >> I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member >> with her, and her brother is on the way.... >> mike >> ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's >> wish.... >> > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > Please pass on my condolences... > > Mike > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 14:14:01 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:01 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <20080714142708.6j9e8k2aogc4wogs-qxhmavpx@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: Hi Dave, Thanks for writing, and I have to say I always enjoyed hanging out in the studio when Chris was recording. I hope life is treating you well. I guess nobody said life is fair. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of David Kuznick Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:27 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks Quoting Carl Edlund Anderson : > This is tragic news, especially as it seems Chris was just getting the > chance to start putting things back together. My sincerest condolences > to Mary! :( Mine as well. I still remember him engineering us during the Ossian's Ride sessions. "It's ok that David's synth is loud. We'll balance it during the mix!" :-) -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Saturn comes back around to show you everything Lets you choose what you will not see and then Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again Spits you out like a child, light and innocent." The Grudge - TOOL From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 14:14:01 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:01 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <200807141130.m6EBU3UG024356@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I'm glad you got to know Chris he was a very special person, and his soul is shining down, I'm just too self-absorbed, or whatever to feel his presence. Peace, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:30 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks mike coleman writes: > I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > them > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like that > I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member > with her, and her brother is on the way.... > mike > ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > wish.... I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. Please pass on my condolences... Mike -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 14:20:19 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:20:19 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mick, Thanks for your kind words. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Mik Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks Coming out of lurking mode to send my condolences to Mary, I think we can all agree Chris will be sadly missed by the Hawkwind family. -------------------------------------------------- From: "M Holmes" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:30 PM To: Subject: Re: important sad news folks > mike coleman writes: > >> I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get >> them >> Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us >> he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like >> that >> I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member >> with her, and her brother is on the way.... >> mike >> ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's >> wish.... > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > Please pass on my condolences... > > Mike > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 14:24:05 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:24:05 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Trev, Chris really enjoyed Naked, God And Man, and Revolution And Rebellion too. I'll miss him more than I can say. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of trev Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:13 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks My thoughts are with you , Mary Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth Magnusson" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:31 PM To: Subject: Re: important sad news folks > My condolences to Mary! > > Sincerely, > Kenneth > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Jul 20 16:18:26 2008 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:18:26 -0500 Subject: hw mention in the NY times Message-ID: In Dave Itzkoff's review of Elric - Stealer of Souls: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/books/review/Itzkoff-t.html?_r=3&ref=books&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 20 17:11:57 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:11:57 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was just thinking it'd be kinda groovy to have a painting with Dave Brock and Daevid Allen portrayed like Vishnu (for starters), eventually giving way to my entire apartment being covered in blue-skinned heroes......anybody up for this?? I'll get Wilfried to pay for it since he's rich unless you'll accept a CDR or something,,,,,,,,forgive me but I'm not getting a visual on Lemmy this way, just yet..... me insane?? On 7/20/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Mick, > Thanks for your kind words. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Mik > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > Coming out of lurking mode to send my condolences to Mary, I think we can > all agree Chris will be sadly missed by the Hawkwind family. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "M Holmes" > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:30 PM > To: > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > mike coleman writes: > > > >> I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you > get > >> them > >> Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > >> he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like > >> that > >> I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family > member > >> with her, and her brother is on the way.... > >> mike > >> ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > >> wish.... > > > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > > Please pass on my condolences... > > > > Mike > > > > -- > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 20 17:27:19 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:27:19 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: but you will......it's tricky.....but you will.....maybe we've got another greatest private rider in the world...... On 7/20/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Mike, > I'm glad you got to know Chris he was a very special person, and his soul > is > shining down, I'm just too self-absorbed, or whatever to feel his presence. > > Peace, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:30 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > mike coleman writes: > > > I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > > them > > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > > he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like > that > > I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member > > with her, and her brother is on the way.... > > mike > > ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > > wish.... > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > Please pass on my condolences... > > Mike > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 17:30:12 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:30:12 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807201411k4658cf88md40dbe4f5ee7b5e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll help paint -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:12 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks I was just thinking it'd be kinda groovy to have a painting with Dave Brock and Daevid Allen portrayed like Vishnu (for starters), eventually giving way to my entire apartment being covered in blue-skinned heroes......anybody up for this?? I'll get Wilfried to pay for it since he's rich unless you'll accept a CDR or something,,,,,,,,forgive me but I'm not getting a visual on Lemmy this way, just yet..... me insane?? On 7/20/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Mick, > Thanks for your kind words. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Mik > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:43 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > Coming out of lurking mode to send my condolences to Mary, I think we can > all agree Chris will be sadly missed by the Hawkwind family. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "M Holmes" > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:30 PM > To: > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > mike coleman writes: > > > >> I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you > get > >> them > >> Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > >> he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like > >> that > >> I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family > member > >> with her, and her brother is on the way.... > >> mike > >> ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > >> wish.... > > > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > > Please pass on my condolences... > > > > Mike > > > > -- > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Jul 20 17:36:31 2008 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:36:31 -0500 Subject: HW: David and Daevid In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807201411k4658cf88md40dbe4f5ee7b5e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I always wondered what a collaboration between Dave and Daevid Allen would sound like.. Whatever the result it would make very interesting listening. Rich From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 17:49:56 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:49:56 -0400 Subject: David and Daevid In-Reply-To: <4883AFDF.9090203@comcast.net> Message-ID: It sure would, true Magic Brothers. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Rich W Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:37 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: David and Daevid I always wondered what a collaboration between Dave and Daevid Allen would sound like.. Whatever the result it would make very interesting listening. Rich From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 20 17:53:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:53:06 -0500 Subject: HW: David and Daevid In-Reply-To: <4883AFDF.9090203@comcast.net> Message-ID: slightly different approaches, but both aspects of the very same highly delightful and exclusive alien weaponry business from the inside out...... the timing was just so crucial On 7/20/08, Rich W wrote: > > I always wondered what a collaboration between Dave and Daevid Allen would > sound like.. > > Whatever the result it would make very interesting listening. > > Rich > From daveb10000 at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Jul 20 18:12:04 2008 From: daveb10000 at NTLWORLD.COM (David Bottomley) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:12:04 +0100 Subject: HW: David and Daevid In-Reply-To: <4883AFDF.9090203@comcast.net> Message-ID: Indeed!. Mind you, I've long thought that "Behind The Face" on "Spacebrock" is heavily influenced by Daevid Allen. Perhaps this is as close as we'll get? Dave -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Rich W Sent: 20 July 2008 22:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: David and Daevid I always wondered what a collaboration between Dave and Daevid Allen would sound like.. Whatever the result it would make very interesting listening. Rich From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 18:09:50 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:09:50 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807201427m5c57ef05rc615c0643c75a88c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If I could, I'd ask my biological family for the cash to go be with my Hawkwind family for Hawkfest. I don't have either kind of passport. If I did have the cash, maybe someone could adopt me as their guest, ah well, a pipe dream, now all I need is something to help fill the pipe, and then I can dream. Trying to move further, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:27 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks but you will......it's tricky.....but you will.....maybe we've got another greatest private rider in the world...... On 7/20/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Mike, > I'm glad you got to know Chris he was a very special person, and his soul > is > shining down, I'm just too self-absorbed, or whatever to feel his presence. > > Peace, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:30 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > mike coleman writes: > > > I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > > them > > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > > he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like > that > > I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member > > with her, and her brother is on the way.... > > mike > > ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > > wish.... > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > Please pass on my condolences... > > Mike > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jul 20 18:19:53 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:19:53 -0400 Subject: hw mention in the NY times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Arin, Is there a direct link, I got to The Times, but it seems all I got were advertisements, will try again. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Arin Komins Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:18 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: hw mention in the NY times In Dave Itzkoff's review of Elric - Stealer of Souls: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/books/review/Itzkoff-t.html?_r=3&ref=books &oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 20 19:44:46 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:44:46 -0500 Subject: HW: David and Daevid In-Reply-To: <000001c8eab5$a8dfd280$0202a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: On 7/20/08, David Bottomley wrote: > > Indeed!. > > Mind you, I've long thought that "Behind The Face" on "Spacebrock" is > heavily influenced by Daevid Allen. Perhaps this is as close as we'll get? I think anything is possible right now.......I think a "shift" in reality is underway while to me the Gong guitarists are the masters of the glissandoz, Mary and I just trip out and trip out and trip out on Dave Brock... he knows how to apply it!!! so now I have something to do!!! play behind the face thanks From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jul 20 20:04:47 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:04:47 -0500 Subject: from a Horror Van to a Joe Chill In-Reply-To: <642777.60829.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I disagree, Floyd were "cosmic" blue skin for everyone they're all heroes to me On 7/20/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > hi, > brock and allen both inherited spacerock from pink floyd, imho. > > > ------------------------------ > Not happy with your email address? > Get the one you really want - > millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Jul 20 21:41:34 2008 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:41:34 -0500 Subject: hw mention in the NY times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Mary Sullivan wrote: :Subject: Re: hw mention in the NY times : :Hi Arin, :Is there a direct link, I got to The Times, but it seems all I got were :advertisements, will try again. : Hi Mary, This was a direct link earlier today: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/books/review/Itzkoff-t.html?_r=3&ref=books&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin ...but I see the nytimes has it under login protection now :-( Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Jul 20 19:57:16 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:57:16 +0000 Subject: from a Horror Van to a Joe Chill Message-ID: hi, brock and allen both inherited spacerock from pink floyd, imho. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jul 21 10:06:24 2008 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:06:24 -0500 Subject: hw mention in the NY times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Arin Komins wrote: :Subject: Re: hw mention in the NY times : ::Hi Arin, ::Is there a direct link, I got to The Times, but it seems all I got were ::advertisements, will try again. :: : :Hi Mary, : :This was a direct link earlier today: : :http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/books/review/Itzkoff-t.html?_r=3&ref=books&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin : :...but I see the nytimes has it under login protection now :-( : ...but it's up again without protection. I copied out the text and pasted it inline, so hopefully you should be able to read this. Across the Universe Amorality Tales By DAVE ITZKOFF Published: July 20, 2008 No matter how many of my remaining brain cells are eaten up by song lyrics or Simpsons catchphrases, there is one scene from a fantasy novel I shall never forget: Our hero has fallen in with a horde of savages as they ransack a town. To keep himself from getting caught up in their bloodshed, he takes refuge in a house that has so far avoided the slaughter-madness, only to have his sanctuary violated by a barbarian dragging a helpless female villager by her hair. Rather than immediately leaping to the womans rescue, our protagonist tells the intruder to find a safe haven of his own. It is only when the barbarian refuses to leave that our hero draws his sword, attacking with such swiftness and ferocity that the would-be rapist is cleaved in two. Who said chivalry is dead? Some readers those with a complete collection of Hawkwind albums and possibly an old Phototron growing dust in the closet will recognize this moment from one of the earliest tales of Elric, the brooding, amoral adventurer first set down on paper by Michael Moorcock more than 45 years ago. And to them I wont need to explain why a long-overdue reissue, titled Elric: The Stealer of Souls. Chronicles of the Last Emperor of Melnibon, Volume I (Del Rey/Ballantine, paper, $15), about the exploits of an aging swashbuckler whose heyday predates the Pentagon Papers, could not have arrived at a more opportune moment. Those unfamiliar with Elric may, at first, find his journeys incomparably strange. Moorcocks hero is designed as a kind of anti-Conan: he is a thin, longhaired albino with a darkly cynical worldview, unmoved by the decadence and death that surround him the living embodiment of Moorcocks axiom that Time is an agony of Now. And oy, does Elric ever agonize. He draws his strength from mysterious drugs and an enchanted sword, called Stormbringer, that seems to possess an ominous agenda of its own; he betrays the allies who seek his assistance and occasionally slays the innocent captives who await his rescue; and he is prone to delivering such inspirational pronouncements as Aye, it is fitting that we should be wanderers, for we have no place in this world. Prince Hamlet, by comparison, is a paragon of courage and decisiveness. What is stranger still is that the world Elric was born into did not necessarily need him. Moorcock was 21 years old when he introduced the character in the June 1961 issue of a British periodical called Science Fantasy. Ray guns and rocket ships were rapidly overtaking swords and sorcery as the preferred pulp subjects of the day, and many of Moorcocks lasting science fiction accomplishments including his novella Behold the Man; his radical, satirical Jerry Cornelius novels; and his immensely influential editorship of the sci-fi magazine New Worlds were several years away. Since this is a science fiction column, perhaps the best way to understand Moorcocks past is to peer farther into his future. In the late 1970s, with the Tories preparing to take power and George Lucass Star Wars saga in ascendancy, he published his pioneering essay Starship Stormtroopers, a brilliant, bench-clearing diatribe that ought to be required reading for any speculative-fiction fan who is ready to put down his 20-sided dice and become an adult. In Starship Stormtroopers, Moorcock takes a one-man stand against what he perceives as widespread reactionary politics in genre fiction, railing against not only monolithic science fiction writers like Robert A. Heinlein, Isaac Asimov and A. E. van Vogt (wild-eyed paternalists to a man, he declares them), but also C. S. Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien titans of fantasy who seemed to be obvious influences on him. Wielding his pen like Stormbringer, Moorcock writes, If I were sitting in a Tube train and all the people opposite me were reading Mein Kampf with obvious enjoyment and approval it probably wouldnt disturb me much more than if they were reading Heinlein, Tolkien or Richard Adams. And then he takes off the kid gloves. What the utopian fiction of such authors teaches its readers, Moorcock argues, is blind obedience to a romantic hero whose motives may be just as ambiguous or pernicious as those of his enemies. Heroes betray us, he writes. By having them, in real life, we betray ourselves. Left unchecked and unexamined, our desire to believe in these infallible father figures yields Ronald Reagan, George Wallace and Joe McCarthy. And, Moorcock says, At its most spectacular it gives us Charlie Manson and Scientology. Moorcock writes that the only true alternative to such figures is the anarchist: a mature, realistic adult imposing laws upon the self and modifying them according to an experience of life, an interpretation of the world. Whether or not one fully buys into this line of thinking, its not hard to see how Elric was, for Moorcock, a formative attempt at a character who would transcend the problems the author saw in genre fiction and exist within this new framework a hero who rarely won the treasure or the girl, and sometimes encouraged the girl to leap into a yawning chasm to her doom. Through Elrics incipient adventures, as he contends with villains whose names suggest the sounds H. P. Lovecraft made when he cleared his throat the sorcerer Theleb Kaarna, Queen Yishana of Jharkor, a monster called Quaolnargn the morality of these stories is rarely more sophisticated than your average heavy-metal album cover. Elrics quests, we are told, are just pantomimes of the continuing and unresolvable battle between Law and Chaos, and there is no Truth but that of Eternal struggle. Yet by the end of The Stealer of Souls, the underpinning philosophy of the stories has grown considerably more mature and even a bit Nietzschean. Elric learns that he is destined to be a kind of bermensch figure, a prelude to history whose true purpose is to bring about the end of the world so that a new era of man can begin. He wrestles with the possibility of eternal recurrence, then accepts his fate in the torso-splittingly violent manner to which he is accustomed. (Sorry for the spoilers, folks, but who wouldnt appreciate a little advance notice when the Apocalypse rolls around?) Before the author destroys the earth and makes it impossible for you to read his book, however, there is one other tale in The Stealer of Souls that stands as a perfect parable of the Moorcockian worldview. This story concerns a powerful wizard who has placed his soul in the body of a cat a cat that has been captured by an evil tyrant, who can now make the spellcaster obey his every command. Elric tries to rescue the cat but of course loses it during a terrific battle; nonetheless, he tells the wizard that the tyrant can no longer threaten him, and that he is free. But, the wizard asks, What if he recaptures the cat what then? There is no salvation that we cannot imagine to be another form of damnation, and our souls are never truly free as long as there are cats to hide them in and ill-intentioned men to master them. Its not a pleasant thought, but it sure has the ring of truth. Meow. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-6090 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jul 21 11:27:32 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:27:32 +0000 Subject: OEB songlist from 7/18/2008 'The Raven Lounge', Philadelphia, PA Message-ID: OEB songlist from 7/18/2008 'The Raven Lounge', Philadelphia, PA Smokestack Lightning (You gotta ) Help Me The Red Rooster King Bee Waiting for the Man> Ejection Sect Appeal Who do you Love? 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From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 22 14:50:34 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:50:34 -0500 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I recommend the lyrics to the hillage track "green" in the absense of the actual song, as a nice starting ground ....it won't be easy....but nothing worthwhile usually is other than the answer to everything On 7/20/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > If I could, I'd ask my biological family for the cash to go be with my > Hawkwind family for Hawkfest. I don't have either kind of passport. If I > did have the cash, maybe someone could adopt me as their guest, ah well, a > pipe dream, now all I need is something to help fill the pipe, and then I > can dream. > > Trying to move further, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:27 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > but you will......it's tricky.....but you will.....maybe we've got another > greatest private rider in the world...... > > On 7/20/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > I'm glad you got to know Chris he was a very special person, and his soul > > is > > shining down, I'm just too self-absorbed, or whatever to feel his > presence. > > > > Peace, > > > > Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:30 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > > > > mike coleman writes: > > > > > I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you > get > > > them > > > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > > > he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like > > that > > > I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family > member > > > with her, and her brother is on the way.... > > > mike > > > ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > > > wish.... > > > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > > Please pass on my condolences... > > > > Mike > > > > -- > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 22 16:55:21 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:55:21 +0100 Subject: Gunslinger (was: HW: TMTYL) In-Reply-To: <7D34FE78-A991-4C5E-9460-0F1D5473310F@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 09:41:35AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > Though, from what I've heard of Gunslinger, they should have taken a > bit a few more minutes in the studio to bring the drums up a bit. > Alan's bass is perhaps a bit _too_ over powering! (Did I really say > that? Shame on me! ;) No, really, since Gunslinger's musical ethic/ > vibe is pretty strongly derived from that of Motorhead, if you listen > to the GS tracks alongside a recent MH track, GS is a bit "spacier", > but mostly I notice Mickey Dee's snare much fatter and more present > in the mix. Ah well, splitting hairs perhaps (if not snares .....) Alan's bass, from the one gig I've seen of theirs, is really a lot more than half of Gunslinger. The guitarist and drummer are there and balance him out some of the way, but they're neither of them really strong enough performers to sneak back the focus. Whereas Mikkey Dee is, as Lemmy has told us all by now surely, "the best drummer in the world"... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 22 17:51:53 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:51:53 +0100 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807041037w3f096b00m90594e636ce66816@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:37:06PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > This is one of those things where people seem to remember it > > different, innit, most especially Lemmy and Nik, though I was > > listening to _1999 Party_ last night, with Nik doing his best menace > > over `Warriors at the Edge of Time' and thinking: "Nah. You were > > into the scary schtick then, mate, you just don't want to remember > > it that way". > > *well we disagree again....I think Nik doing those vocals is as good as it > ever got (for an american who wasn't at HW gigs then) and in fact I mailed > Nik about this very thing a few months ago* > *I liked Nik doing the vocals on stuff like that the very best..;;;;just my > opinion, not saying it's the right one or the best one....I have stated > before that I always considered Nik the other head of a two-headed Hawk, and > quite frankly, I wish to god he could get along with Dave, and not > over-honk, because I wish he was in Hawkwind......I hope he dirched the > white alien-spikey suit by now though...* No, no, I think I've been misunderstood here. What I mean is, you know how when Nik talks about Hawkwind he pictures it as this happy hippy commune where everyone was nice and friendly; and when Lemmy talks about it he emphasises the messing with the audience, the playing with frequencies that resonated body cavities and the general attack. What I was saying is that _1999 Party_ makes it sound very much as if Nik didn't mind being frightening at times too. I've seen Nik be good with Hawkwind, and I've seen him be bad; on the whole I'd rather overall that Nik brought Farflung etc. as his backing band over to the UK than see either Space Ritual or Hawkwind at the moment, but until Nik finds some fellow travellers with that much discipline, the real Hawks are going to be the dependable act. Not that some of Nik's chaotic gigs haven't been fun... but not all of them by a long chalk. > > *Oh I'm sure it is, but wouldn't Lemmy know it was being used??, etc, > > etc...* Oh right. Well, I can't imagine he objects to extra revenue. But I bet he bitches in interviews about how Hawkwind are still making money out of his singing... Yours, Jon ObCD: Pressurehed - _Sudden Vertigo_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jul 22 18:24:37 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:24:37 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080722215152.GH3235@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 22 Jul 2008, at 16:51 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > I bet he bitches in interviews about how Hawkwind are still making > money > out of his singing... Hawkwind are making money!? ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 22 18:49:03 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:49:03 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080722215152.GH3235@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: *sorry I'm hovering around so much, by the way what time zone are you in, I'm fascinated by it!!!* *you're right I did misunderstand, and now we're in harmony* *I say get Nik that multi-colored wig he had in one of those RCA-era tour programs I think it was and "put him in coach"* *but I have bigger dreams to continue.....* ** On 7/22/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:37:06PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > > This is one of those things where people seem to remember it > > > different, innit, most especially Lemmy and Nik, though I was > > > listening to _1999 Party_ last night, with Nik doing his best menace > > > over `Warriors at the Edge of Time' and thinking: "Nah. You were > > > into the scary schtick then, mate, you just don't want to remember > > > it that way". > > > > *well we disagree again....I think Nik doing those vocals is as good as > it > > ever got (for an american who wasn't at HW gigs then) and in fact I > mailed > > Nik about this very thing a few months ago* > > *I liked Nik doing the vocals on stuff like that the very best..;;;;just > my > > opinion, not saying it's the right one or the best one....I have stated > > before that I always considered Nik the other head of a two-headed Hawk, > and > > quite frankly, I wish to god he could get along with Dave, and not > > over-honk, because I wish he was in Hawkwind......I hope he dirched the > > white alien-spikey suit by now though...* > > No, no, I think I've been misunderstood here. What I mean is, > you know how when Nik talks about Hawkwind he pictures it as this happy > hippy commune where everyone was nice and friendly; and when Lemmy talks > about it he emphasises the messing with the audience, the playing with > frequencies that resonated body cavities and the general attack. What I > was saying is that _1999 Party_ makes it sound very much as if Nik > didn't mind being frightening at times too. > > I've seen Nik be good with Hawkwind, and I've seen him be bad; > on the whole I'd rather overall that Nik brought Farflung etc. as his > backing band over to the UK than see either Space Ritual or Hawkwind at > the moment, but until Nik finds some fellow travellers with that much > discipline, the real Hawks are going to be the dependable act. Not that > some of Nik's chaotic gigs haven't been fun... but not all of them by a > long chalk. > > > > *Oh I'm sure it is, but wouldn't Lemmy know it was being used??, > etc, > > > etc...* > > Oh right. Well, I can't imagine he objects to extra revenue. But > I bet he bitches in interviews about how Hawkwind are still making money > out of his singing... Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Pressurehed - _Sudden Vertigo_ > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 22 19:30:43 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:30:43 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080722215152.GH3235@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Jon, Do you have any links, or copies of interviews with Lemmy dealing with the psychoacoustics they played with back then. Dave is certainly a master at inducing certain states through sound. You may not be into them, but The Dead were into that sort of thing, too, and the subject has always fascinated me. I'm a psychology major, but don't have the grounding to learn much about psychacoustics, I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit their pants. That's 1 way of doing a sonic attack, I trust Hawkwind with their use of such powerful knowledge. Please, if you, or anyone else has anymore info on the interviews, or psychoacoustics, let me know? Many thanks Kaduflyer P.S. I'm trying to mend my wings right now, it's going to take a while. Thanks to Hawkwind, and everyone on both the Yahoo and BOC groups for the support I've been given during the worst time of my life. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:52 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:37:06PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > This is one of those things where people seem to remember it > > different, innit, most especially Lemmy and Nik, though I was > > listening to _1999 Party_ last night, with Nik doing his best menace > > over `Warriors at the Edge of Time' and thinking: "Nah. You were > > into the scary schtick then, mate, you just don't want to remember > > it that way". > > *well we disagree again....I think Nik doing those vocals is as good as it > ever got (for an american who wasn't at HW gigs then) and in fact I mailed > Nik about this very thing a few months ago* > *I liked Nik doing the vocals on stuff like that the very best..;;;;just my > opinion, not saying it's the right one or the best one....I have stated > before that I always considered Nik the other head of a two-headed Hawk, and > quite frankly, I wish to god he could get along with Dave, and not > over-honk, because I wish he was in Hawkwind......I hope he dirched the > white alien-spikey suit by now though...* No, no, I think I've been misunderstood here. What I mean is, you know how when Nik talks about Hawkwind he pictures it as this happy hippy commune where everyone was nice and friendly; and when Lemmy talks about it he emphasises the messing with the audience, the playing with frequencies that resonated body cavities and the general attack. What I was saying is that _1999 Party_ makes it sound very much as if Nik didn't mind being frightening at times too. I've seen Nik be good with Hawkwind, and I've seen him be bad; on the whole I'd rather overall that Nik brought Farflung etc. as his backing band over to the UK than see either Space Ritual or Hawkwind at the moment, but until Nik finds some fellow travellers with that much discipline, the real Hawks are going to be the dependable act. Not that some of Nik's chaotic gigs haven't been fun... but not all of them by a long chalk. > > *Oh I'm sure it is, but wouldn't Lemmy know it was being used??, etc, > > etc...* Oh right. Well, I can't imagine he objects to extra revenue. But I bet he bitches in interviews about how Hawkwind are still making money out of his singing... Yours, Jon ObCD: Pressurehed - _Sudden Vertigo_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 22 19:53:18 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:53:18 -0500 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL Message-ID: that's it, I'm prepared to declare the dead the "stupidest band in world history", and to personally torture each remaning member until they are worthless for anything other than the geriatric towers.....you know, where Trev lives now..... well, my hillage video's almost down on youtube,,,,,,gotta go On 7/22/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Jon, > Do you have any links, or copies of interviews with Lemmy dealing with the > psychoacoustics > they played with back then. Dave is certainly a master at inducing certain > states through sound. You may not be into them, but The Dead were into > that > sort of thing, too, and the subject has always fascinated me. > I'm a psychology major, but don't have the grounding to learn much about > psychacoustics, I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit their > pants. That's 1 way of doing a sonic attack, I trust Hawkwind with their > use of such powerful knowledge. Please, if you, or anyone else has anymore > info on the interviews, or psychoacoustics, let me know? > > Many thanks > > Kaduflyer > > P.S. I'm trying to mend my wings right now, it's going to take a while. > Thanks to Hawkwind, and everyone on both the Yahoo and BOC groups for the > support I've been given during the worst time of my life. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:52 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: TMTYL > > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:37:06PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > > This is one of those things where people seem to remember it > > > different, innit, most especially Lemmy and Nik, though I was > > > listening to _1999 Party_ last night, with Nik doing his best menace > > > over `Warriors at the Edge of Time' and thinking: "Nah. You were > > > into the scary schtick then, mate, you just don't want to remember > > > it that way". > > > > *well we disagree again....I think Nik doing those vocals is as good as > it > > ever got (for an american who wasn't at HW gigs then) and in fact I > mailed > > Nik about this very thing a few months ago* > > *I liked Nik doing the vocals on stuff like that the very best..;;;;just > my > > opinion, not saying it's the right one or the best one....I have stated > > before that I always considered Nik the other head of a two-headed Hawk, > and > > quite frankly, I wish to god he could get along with Dave, and not > > over-honk, because I wish he was in Hawkwind......I hope he dirched the > > white alien-spikey suit by now though...* > > No, no, I think I've been misunderstood here. What I mean is, > you know how when Nik talks about Hawkwind he pictures it as this happy > hippy commune where everyone was nice and friendly; and when Lemmy talks > about it he emphasises the messing with the audience, the playing with > frequencies that resonated body cavities and the general attack. What I > was saying is that _1999 Party_ makes it sound very much as if Nik > didn't mind being frightening at times too. > > I've seen Nik be good with Hawkwind, and I've seen him be bad; > on the whole I'd rather overall that Nik brought Farflung etc. as his > backing band over to the UK than see either Space Ritual or Hawkwind at > the moment, but until Nik finds some fellow travellers with that much > discipline, the real Hawks are going to be the dependable act. Not that > some of Nik's chaotic gigs haven't been fun... but not all of them by a > long chalk. > > > > *Oh I'm sure it is, but wouldn't Lemmy know it was being used??, > etc, > > > etc...* > > Oh right. Well, I can't imagine he objects to extra revenue. But > I bet he bitches in interviews about how Hawkwind are still making money > out of his singing... Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Pressurehed - _Sudden Vertigo_ > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Tue Jul 22 20:01:46 2008 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:01:46 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting Mary Sullivan : > I'm a psychology major, but don't have the grounding to learn much about > psychacoustics, I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit their > pants. Total urban myth, with no scientific evidence to back it up. DavidK From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 22 20:13:17 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:13:17 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080722200146.2zaids3bc4skog8c-qxhmavpx@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: > Total urban myth, with no scientific evidence to back it up. > DavidK > > she also tells me that on at least one occasion LSD was vaporized onto the > crowd,,,,here's praying which is something I resereve doing to the barest of > minimum, that this was also urban myth.....either way if this kind of pure > garbage is spewing out of even the fans then I need to get on the phone with > Jeff Dunn again.....he's probably at the gym now... peace From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 22 20:20:54 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:20:54 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807201427m5c57ef05rc615c0643c75a88c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm writing to wish everyone a happy Hawkfest. I'm not fishing when I write about finding someone to adopt me, and all that, I just wish I were there, since I don't know how I'll manage to catch another Hawkwind show. If I'm looking for something, I'm blunt enough to ask. If anyone makes a recording, please keep me in mind, granted it's not the same, but I'd love to hear it. Will everyone who goes, that includes all bands, give Chris a great musical send off? I'd really appreciate that. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:27 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks but you will......it's tricky.....but you will.....maybe we've got another greatest private rider in the world...... On 7/20/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Mike, > I'm glad you got to know Chris he was a very special person, and his soul > is > shining down, I'm just too self-absorbed, or whatever to feel his presence. > > Peace, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:30 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: important sad news folks > > > mike coleman writes: > > > I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > > them > > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us > > he apparently passed away last night from an aneurysm or something like > that > > I didn't want to keep Mary on the phone long as she needs a family member > > with her, and her brother is on the way.... > > mike > > ps-somebody pass this to the Yahoo Hawkwind group please, it is Mary's > > wish.... > > I'm very sad to hear that. I did some trading with Chris way back when. > Please pass on my condolences... > > Mike > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jul 22 20:12:32 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:12:32 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 22 Jul 2008, at 18:30 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit > their > pants. My understanding is that this is actually an urban legend. Some groups have claimed to have verified its effectiveness (if so, I'm glad I wasn't there), but as far as I know there is no actual demonstrable evidence. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 22 20:30:58 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:30:58 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080722200146.2zaids3bc4skog8c-qxhmavpx@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: Hi David, Thanks for the info. I still want to know more about psychoacoustics. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of David Kuznick Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:02 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL Quoting Mary Sullivan : > I'm a psychology major, but don't have the grounding to learn much about > psychacoustics, I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit their > pants. Total urban myth, with no scientific evidence to back it up. DavidK From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 22 20:32:11 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:32:11 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807221713m458b9d76uba6a4adc56806b8b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, No, this was not "Urban myth," and Mountain Girl, who was involved with Jerry and Kezey got on the case of anyone who would randomly spray people with acid and dmso, it's mental rape. I've found the Dead family to be as kind and intelligent as the Hawkwind family, the scene got too big and out of control, and there were lots of stupid people who were there getting totally smashed and being irresponsible. I do wish Hawkwind had been able to reach a wider audience, but I'm also glad they never got so big that they attracted such slime. I'm sure the Dead never condoned such behavior, if I was ever sprayed I never noticed, I was already in that space, so it wouldn't bother me, but that kind of thing is truly evil. Even though you're not into their music, Mike, don't judge a band or their fan base by the actions of a few assholes. I'm sure even in the Hawkfamily there have been some assholes, I'm glad to say I never met any of themin any of the musical circles I travel in. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL > Total urban myth, with no scientific evidence to back it up. > DavidK > > she also tells me that on at least one occasion LSD was vaporized onto the > crowd,,,,here's praying which is something I resereve doing to the barest of > minimum, that this was also urban myth.....either way if this kind of pure > garbage is spewing out of even the fans then I need to get on the phone with > Jeff Dunn again.....he's probably at the gym now... peace From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 22 20:37:15 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:37:15 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I certainly would not be happy about such an experience either, and would probably literally find a way to throw the shit back in any band's face that would do such a thing. My real interest in psychoacoustics is to change states of mind, especially my own, and induce relaxation. I'm sure Chris would have quite a bit to say on this subject, being a sound engineer, (as you know). Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL On 22 Jul 2008, at 18:30 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit > their > pants. My understanding is that this is actually an urban legend. Some groups have claimed to have verified its effectiveness (if so, I'm glad I wasn't there), but as far as I know there is no actual demonstrable evidence. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 22 21:05:10 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:05:10 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: *Mary, just find something better to focus on...what bothers me the most is that the rubbish pours so freely from YOU* *now I'm sorry, but I'm rethinking just how effective my time is* *and on that note I conclude with:* *"Technicians of Bus-wreck No-Further, Your Smack-head is DEAD DEAD DEAD"* *hahahahahahahaha* On 7/22/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I certainly would not be happy about such an experience either, and would > probably literally find a way to throw the shit back in any band's face > that > would do such a thing. > My real interest in psychoacoustics is to change states of mind, especially > my own, and induce relaxation. I'm sure Chris would have quite a bit to > say > on this subject, being a sound engineer, (as you know). > > Love, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:13 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: TMTYL > > > On 22 Jul 2008, at 18:30 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit > > their > > pants. > > > > My understanding is that this is actually an urban legend. Some > groups have claimed to have verified its effectiveness (if so, I'm > glad I wasn't there), but as far as I know there is no actual > demonstrable evidence. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Jul 22 21:29:42 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:29:42 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 22 Jul 2008, at 8:37 PM, Mary Sullivan wrote: > My real interest in psychoacoustics is to change states of mind, > especially > my own, and induce relaxation. I think there is a confusion of terminology here. As I understand it, "psychoacoustics" is the field that studies the psychophysics of hearing, i.e., the limits that the biology and operation of the human ear places upon the ability to perceive sounds. What you seem to be talking about is how sound affects higher-order brain functioning. This may well fall under the umbrella of psychoacoustics but it's not what springs to my mind when the term is used. Still, it's all interesting. Cheers (and heartfelt condolences), Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 22 21:58:14 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:58:14 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <938FA5A4-70D4-489F-83CC-513CF661406B@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 7/22/08, Paul Mather wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2008, at 8:37 PM, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > ((<*>)) Still, it's all interesting.((<*>)) it certainly is, no argument there, and no argument that Dave especially along with other HW crew are masters of it, it's just if they have an actual working formula to program me to (word edited for mary) the G. Dead personnel, then that I don't care to know and it will always fall short of efficacy on me.... I would love somebody in HW to confirm my suspicion that these skills are lifted from the ether, and if they are communicable, it is largely unrecorded.... > ((<*>))Cheers (and heartfelt condolences),((<*>)) absolutely seconded, while tough love surely comes in my sleep, I intended no personal hurt other than to say: KNOCK IT OFF MARY, it is all in the way that you use it... From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 22 22:38:10 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:38:10 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807221858k5b36d74cme0c458af10379224@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey stranger, All it takes is to give Sonic Attack a good listen, and that's a tiny demonstration of all this. I know, and trust Dave, and the other musicians who have guided Spaceship Hawkwind to not abuse any knowledge they have in this field. I'm not talking about anything new, this kind of thing has been around for thousands of years, electronics take it to a new level, and I find it really intriguing, as you know. Don't worry, I think when Dave talks about playing music, the aspect of play is important. He wouldn't be still doing it if it weren't fun, and isn't that what it's all about? Music can take on many roles in society, it can heal, be a form of spreading ideas, (or news, like the wandering Minstrals), bring peopletogether, or just have a good time. With rubbish like elevator music, it can have less desireable affects, but like everything, it's all in how you use it. Later, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:58 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL On 7/22/08, Paul Mather wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2008, at 8:37 PM, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > ((<*>)) Still, it's all interesting.((<*>)) it certainly is, no argument there, and no argument that Dave especially along with other HW crew are masters of it, it's just if they have an actual working formula to program me to (word edited for mary) the G. Dead personnel, then that I don't care to know and it will always fall short of efficacy on me.... I would love somebody in HW to confirm my suspicion that these skills are lifted from the ether, and if they are communicable, it is largely unrecorded.... > ((<*>))Cheers (and heartfelt condolences),((<*>)) absolutely seconded, while tough love surely comes in my sleep, I intended no personal hurt other than to say: KNOCK IT OFF MARY, it is all in the way that you use it... From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 22 22:46:27 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:46:27 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807221805ydec9ea1k22b1e6fe10e68b56@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: shut up, you burn out, Ha, ha. Love ya, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:05 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL *Mary, just find something better to focus on...what bothers me the most is that the rubbish pours so freely from YOU* *now I'm sorry, but I'm rethinking just how effective my time is* *and on that note I conclude with:* *"Technicians of Bus-wreck No-Further, Your Smack-head is DEAD DEAD DEAD"* *hahahahahahahaha* On 7/22/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I certainly would not be happy about such an experience either, and would > probably literally find a way to throw the shit back in any band's face > that > would do such a thing. > My real interest in psychoacoustics is to change states of mind, especially > my own, and induce relaxation. I'm sure Chris would have quite a bit to > say > on this subject, being a sound engineer, (as you know). > > Love, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:13 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: TMTYL > > > On 22 Jul 2008, at 18:30 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit > > their > > pants. > > > > My understanding is that this is actually an urban legend. Some > groups have claimed to have verified its effectiveness (if so, I'm > glad I wasn't there), but as far as I know there is no actual > demonstrable evidence. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 22 23:01:17 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:01:17 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: TMTYL Message-ID: damn right and I beat you to it, you're free to share what I just mailed you privately may the thread continue if it can without my futher input, nobody need rob me of my right to communicate On 7/22/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > shut up, you burn out, Ha, ha. > > Love ya, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:05 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: TMTYL > > > *Mary, just find something better to focus on...what bothers me the most is > that the rubbish pours so freely from YOU* > *now I'm sorry, but I'm rethinking just how effective my time is* > *and on that note I conclude with:* > *"Technicians of Bus-wreck No-Further, Your Smack-head is DEAD DEAD DEAD"* > *hahahahahahahaha* > > > On 7/22/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > > I certainly would not be happy about such an experience either, and would > > probably literally find a way to throw the shit back in any band's face > > that > > would do such a thing. > > My real interest in psychoacoustics is to change states of mind, > especially > > my own, and induce relaxation. I'm sure Chris would have quite a bit to > > say > > on this subject, being a sound engineer, (as you know). > > > > Love, > > > > Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:13 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: TMTYL > > > > > > On 22 Jul 2008, at 18:30 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > > > I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > > > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit > > > their > > > pants. > > > > > > > > My understanding is that this is actually an urban legend. Some > > groups have claimed to have verified its effectiveness (if so, I'm > > glad I wasn't there), but as far as I know there is no actual > > demonstrable evidence. > > > > Cheers, > > Carl > > > > -- > > Carl Edlund Anderson > > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jul 22 23:16:36 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:16:36 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <938FA5A4-70D4-489F-83CC-513CF661406B@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: Hi Paul, Since my high school teachers decided a blind person was not capable of comprehending physics, I've never taken a physics course in my life. Chris tried to teach me a bit about partial physics, but I don't know my protons from my electron, and all those forces and stuff, ak!!! I was always under the impression that psychoacoustics involved the affect of sound on the body. I want to know it all, (grin). Chris, having been an engineer was going to demonstrate some of the techniques, which he's previously done when we played with time using a digital delay. Thank you for your condolences, I don't know what I'm going to do without him. At one time, I'd thought about doing work with sufferers of chronic pain using my degree in psychology, and getting certified to do massage therapy. I don't have the hand strength, or discipline for that. I noticed when my shiatsu (acupressure) therapist did her treatment she was totally focused on the breathing. Being a chronic sufferer of migraines I don't know if I'm strong enough for that. I guess I'll continue working with my prisoner's rights group, and the peace group, the way things are going on with this earth scares me, and that's a reason why we chose not to have children. By not doing anything, I'm as culpable as those who are actively destroying our home, "Silence means approval," (r.e.m). Since I'm still here there must be a reason. If all this is a wake up call it's a hell of an attempt for a "Cure for complacency." Please, if Anyone can tell me what's being said in the background of Psi Power leading up to the previous quote I must know. I've listened to it backwards forwards, and can't quite hear what's being said. Lord of light was my first Hawkwind experience, but Psi Power is very special to me. I've had telepathic experiences I can't explain, nor can others who claim to have a working understanding of the mind. If anyone else finds telepathy particularly interesting, please contact me off list? It's something that happens to me sometimes, but I don't have, or want control over it. Thank you Paul, for indulging me here on my rant, since the group is getting it too we can call it group therapy, right? I sincerely appreciate your good vibes, they help. I want you, and everyone on the list to know how much your support has meant in this being the worst time of my life. I hope Chris isn't suffering any more, which he was, due to the inadequate health care he received. An example being, they knew he needed his teeth taken out, with a lot of cutting into the bone, the only way they'd do it was with no Novocain, or anything, 1 tooth every few weeks, and they wanted to take them all out, since due to neglect they weren't worth saving. I don't know too many people who would submit to that. I'm sorry, I digress, I'm usually not this disjointed., I guess it's a verbal manifestation of the chaos in my heart and soul I'm going through. Peace Mary P.S. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:30 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL On 22 Jul 2008, at 8:37 PM, Mary Sullivan wrote: > My real interest in psychoacoustics is to change states of mind, > especially > my own, and induce relaxation. I think there is a confusion of terminology here. As I understand it, "psychoacoustics" is the field that studies the psychophysics of hearing, i.e., the limits that the biology and operation of the human ear places upon the ability to perceive sounds. What you seem to be talking about is how sound affects higher-order brain functioning. This may well fall under the umbrella of psychoacoustics but it's not what springs to my mind when the term is used. Still, it's all interesting. Cheers (and heartfelt condolences), Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 01:41:08 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:41:08 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080722200146.2zaids3bc4skog8c-qxhmavpx@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: There's at least one account of Nikola Tesla having built an oscillating platform on which the bowl-disruptor effect was sometimes observed. I read it in "Tesla: Man Out of Time", Margaret Cheney. Alright book, it said Mark Twain stood on it and had to rush off to the water locker. But I don't know anything about the sources of this inorfmation. Pretty sure the mechanical oscillator would have been a low frequency, say for example maybe 5 to 200Hz. The compression waves that make up sound travelling through the air usually don't amount to much force though I know I've been buffeted by the huge speakers at concerts before. Huge diaphragms. Vibrations are also carrying through the ground. The urban legend could have just started from someone talking about doing something like that. Brain activity responds to phasing of sound waves played into the left and right ear. The simplest type of brainwave entrainment, trying to synch your head into a relaxed state that just correlates to the alpha-rhythm detectable on EEGs---methods employ sensory stimuli at the same frequency, like a sonic phase difference, flashing light, electric field pulse. I've tried some of this stuff first hand and on friends, electrodes, goggles with LEDs inside and yeah playing various Hawkwind songs. It wasn't theraputic though because we were just trying to f*ck with our heads. The music was definitely important with all this and it wasn't even necessarily designed intentionally to do anything like that, just some Hawkwind recordings in stereo. Nowadays you can build your own EEG machine from a kit and be a real scientist. *Two people seemed to have lapsed into a hypnotic state, with one guy sort of lurching after a few minutes and hastily taking off the goggles and headphones, saying he was kind of frightened all of a sudden realizing he had no idea how long he'd been listening for. On my own I experimented with electrodes as well, and a few times had some very lucid waking dreams (think that's the right term)--- my whole CNS was kind of screwed up for some days, totally irregular sleep just short of passing out once while riding a bike, and what I think was completely innappropriate adrenaline response while just lying in the dark thinking about nothing in particular. =With these experiences I wish I'd been more careful about playing with electricity like that. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:01 PM, David Kuznick wrote: > Quoting Mary Sullivan : > > I'm a psychology major, but don't have the grounding to learn much about >> psychacoustics, I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the >> Dead >> knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit their >> pants. >> > > Total urban myth, with no scientific evidence to back it up. > > DavidK > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 01:48:36 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:48:36 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > bowl-disruptor effect > Oh I meant "bowel"-disruptor. It's a fictional handheld weapon that does this From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jul 23 02:54:39 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:54:39 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Carl, I'm trying to get an entry into the GB which isn't compadible with my reader. If I wrote a message and sent it to you, would you post it? Please let me know? Love, and friendship, always, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL On 22 Jul 2008, at 18:30 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead > knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit > their > pants. My understanding is that this is actually an urban legend. Some groups have claimed to have verified its effectiveness (if so, I'm glad I wasn't there), but as far as I know there is no actual demonstrable evidence. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 07:18:19 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:18:19 -0700 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL Message-ID: I've never been a fan of the Dead, but as someone who's been wasting his time and money playing Rock Band lately, I have to say those weird little jangly trippy jammy tunes are fun as hell to play on a fake plastic scale model stratocaster. :) Btw, so is Don't Fear the Reaper. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008 7:55 pm Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET that's it, I'm prepared to declare the dead the "stupidest band in world history", and to personally torture each remaning member until they are worthless for anything other than the geriatric towers.....you know, where Trev lives now..... well, my hillage video's almost down on youtube,,,,,,gotta go On 7/22/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > Hi Jon, Do you have any links, or copies of interviews with Lemmy dealing with the psychoacoustics they played with back then. Dave is certainly a master at inducing certain states through sound. You may not be into them, but The Dead were into that sort of thing, too, and the subject has always fascinated me. I'm a psychology major, but don't have the grounding to learn much about psychacoustics, I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit their pants. That's 1 way of doing a sonic attack, I trust Hawkwind with their use of such powerful knowledge. Please, if you, or anyone else has anymore info on the interviews, or psychoacoustics, let me know? > Many thanks > Kaduflyer > P.S. I'm trying to mend my wings right now, it's going to take a while. Thanks to Hawkwind, and everyone on both the Yahoo and BOC groups for the support I've been given during the worst time of my life. > -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:52 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL > On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:37:06PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > This is one of those things where people seem to remember it > > different, innit, most especially Lemmy and Nik, though I was > > listening to _1999 Party_ last night, with Nik doing his best menace > > over `Warriors at the Edge of Time' and thinking: "Nah. You were > > into the scary schtick then, mate, you just don't want to remember > > it that way". > > *well we disagree again....I think Nik doing those vocals is as good as it > ever got (for an american who wasn't at HW gigs then) and in fact I mailed > Nik about this very thing a few months ago* > *I liked Nik doing the vocals on stuff like that the very best..;;;;just my > opinion, not saying it's the right one or the best one....I have stated > b From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 07:28:36 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:28:36 -0700 Subject: TMTYL Message-ID: As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: "Owen O'Neill" Date: Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 2:00 am Subject: Re: TMTYL To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > bowl-disruptor effect Oh I meant "bowel"-disruptor. It's a fictional handheld weapon that does this From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 23 08:40:37 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:40:37 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <3299642916.26943690@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:28 , Steve Swann wrote: > As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) [imagine "thumbs up" emoticon here] :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 23 08:45:58 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:45:58 -0500 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <3299642298.26881914@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:18 , Steve Swann wrote: > I've never been a fan of the Dead, but as someone who's been > wasting his time and money playing Rock Band lately, I have to say > those weird little jangly trippy jammy tunes are fun as hell to > play on a fake plastic scale model stratocaster. :) As someone who is a fan of the Dead, they're also pretty fun to jam out on a real guitar, too. :) Ah, I'm a sucker for "hippy pop"! Especially the kind you can merrily turn from a 3-minute jangle into into a 30-minute pseudo-Coltrane workout whenever you feel like it. :) Plenty of GD influence lurking around the edges of Proto-BOC, as I recall. Buck was supposed to be into that vibe back in the day, wasn't he? > Btw, so is Don't Fear the Reaper. :) One of the earliest songs I tried to learn on electric guitar! :) The guitar breaks/solo in the middle were tricky, as I recall .... I think I'd need a few months of practice (practice!?) to get back to the point where I could angle them recognizably. ;) But you can very satisfyingly play the main riff for ever and a day. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 23 09:10:11 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:10:11 +0000 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL Message-ID: GUILTY! -- DID I HEAR SUPERTRAMP? GENESIS? SPIN DOCTORS? GUILTY! ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008 2:45:58 PM Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:18 , Steve Swann wrote: > I've never been a fan of the Dead, but as someone who's been > wasting his time and money playing Rock Band lately, I have to say > those weird little jangly trippy jammy tunes are fun as hell to > play on a fake plastic scale model stratocaster. :) As someone who is a fan of the Dead, they're also pretty fun to jam out on a real guitar, too. :) Ah, I'm a sucker for "hippy pop"! Especially the kind you can merrily turn from a 3-minute jangle into into a 30-minute pseudo-Coltrane workout whenever you feel like it. :) Plenty of GD influence lurking around the edges of Proto-BOC, as I recall. Buck was supposed to be into that vibe back in the day, wasn't he? > Btw, so is Don't Fear the Reaper. :) One of the earliest songs I tried to learn on electric guitar! :) The guitar breaks/solo in the middle were tricky, as I recall .... I think I'd need a few months of practice (practice!?) to get back to the point where I could angle them recognizably.. ;) But you can very satisfyingly play the main riff for ever and a day. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 10:11:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:11:06 -0500 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <675555.66495.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I like the Arcadia So Red The Rose cassette I once had!!!! Nothing wrong with the GD, other than I never saw them tripping to "get it". Back in the mid 80's, I had this guy that I didn't know, that somehow ended up coming to my apartment late at night and I'd be driniking, and he would play live dead tapes for hours and getting off on them so hard, and I just got a kick watching him then there were the 2 couch-guys, I think were downer heads, that would show up for the couch.... then there was "turkey baster Bob", the dead-head with a phone in his closet, an upper connection that I recorded a Dead bootleg for......hmmmmm oops sorry, I just woke up unfortunately On 7/23/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > GUILTY! > > > > > -- > DID I HEAR SUPERTRAMP? GENESIS? SPIN DOCTORS? > > GUILTY! > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008 2:45:58 PM > Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL > > On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:18 , Steve Swann wrote: > > I've never been a fan of the Dead, but as someone who's been > > wasting his time and money playing Rock Band lately, I have to say > > those weird little jangly trippy jammy tunes are fun as hell to > > play on a fake plastic scale model stratocaster. :) > > > As someone who is a fan of the Dead, they're also pretty fun to jam > out on a real guitar, too. :) Ah, I'm a sucker for "hippy pop"! > Especially the kind you can merrily turn from a 3-minute jangle into > into a 30-minute pseudo-Coltrane workout whenever you feel like it. :) > > Plenty of GD influence lurking around the edges of Proto-BOC, as I > recall. Buck was supposed to be into that vibe back in the day, > wasn't he? > > > > Btw, so is Don't Fear the Reaper. :) > > > One of the earliest songs I tried to learn on electric guitar! :) > The guitar breaks/solo in the middle were tricky, as I recall .... I > think I'd need a few months of practice (practice!?) to get back to > the point where I could angle them recognizably.. ;) But you can very > satisfyingly play the main riff for ever and a day. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 10:22:01 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:22:01 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <864CB911-6A4B-4C8B-88B8-88D6650A8938@carlaz.com> Message-ID: and there's always the Ultrasonics the the creatures use.........and further, I would say that if I were at some of the HW gigs when they were doing Sonic Attack and such during the Distant Horizons era and had I taken anything "funny", I'd be inclined to say to myself "by George I think Hawkwind is blowing my mind, this is frightening" On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:28 , Steve Swann wrote: > >> As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) >> > > > [imagine "thumbs up" emoticon here] :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 10:41:42 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:41:42 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807230722y5e37d2c5kc74ef409dd14f617@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: unless the US gov is holding back on everything fun, I think Waco proved I need not worry, here: *this would fall under psychoaccoustics wouldn't it??, I didn't read it: * http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/256/sonic_weapons.html On 7/23/08, mike coleman wrote: > > and there's always the Ultrasonics the the creatures use.........and > further, I would say that if I were at some of the HW gigs when they were > doing Sonic Attack and such during the Distant Horizons era and had I taken > anything "funny", I'd be inclined to say to myself "by George I think > Hawkwind is blowing my mind, this is frightening" > > On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >> On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:28 , Steve Swann wrote: >> >>> As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) >>> >> >> >> [imagine "thumbs up" emoticon here] :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jul 23 10:42:47 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:42:47 -0500 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807230711m7594b30ard63f9258f40e4dc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 23 Jul 2008, at 09:11 , mike coleman wrote: > I never saw them tripping to "get it". Well, actually, I never saw them whilst tripping either, but I still rather feel like I got something there. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 10:57:50 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:57:50 -0500 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <1183F8F2-412C-44B0-9C51-268CDD927864@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > "\them tripping to "get it". >> Well, actually, I never saw them whilst tripping either, but I still >> rather feel like I got something there. :) " >> >> I was simply annoyed at mary, since I've gotten almost too close with her, >> and she knows how much I HATE hearing the 2 things regarding the Dead......I >> think we'd be poor Hawkwind fans not to realize that the Dead certainly had >> talent in quantity, regardless if it didn't appeal to all..... >> >> My younger next-door neighbor was a complete Dead-Head, and he had Warrior >> before I did, and he wouldn't sell it or trade it with me, and I >> contemplated (unseriously) doing a break-in, especially since my mom swore >> she saw him as one of the getaways with one of my guitars.......I later had >> eyes for his younger sister who sadly was another who thought you can "play" >> with Heroin, and her friend who was also rather lovely, is no longer with >> us......overdose....but anyway, Karen, his sister, said Alan (him) would >> have "Fire On The Mountain", "Fire On The Mountain", playing playing... >> > From albert at CELLSUM.COM Wed Jul 23 11:22:03 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:22:03 -0400 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <37D6FCE7-D35F-4294-9245-1E2D5825219E@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Not so much Buck but Andy Winters, the bass player, was a big fan of Phil Lesh and we did open for them once and they were very nice to us. Al On Jul 23, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:18 , Steve Swann wrote: >> I've never been a fan of the Dead, but as someone who's been >> wasting his time and money playing Rock Band lately, I have to say >> those weird little jangly trippy jammy tunes are fun as hell to >> play on a fake plastic scale model stratocaster. :) > > > As someone who is a fan of the Dead, they're also pretty fun to jam > out on a real guitar, too. :) Ah, I'm a sucker for "hippy pop"! > Especially the kind you can merrily turn from a 3-minute jangle into > into a 30-minute pseudo-Coltrane workout whenever you feel like it. :) > > Plenty of GD influence lurking around the edges of Proto-BOC, as I > recall. Buck was supposed to be into that vibe back in the day, > wasn't he? > > >> Btw, so is Don't Fear the Reaper. :) > > > One of the earliest songs I tried to learn on electric guitar! :) > The guitar breaks/solo in the middle were tricky, as I recall .... I > think I'd need a few months of practice (practice!?) to get back to > the point where I could angle them recognizably. ;) But you can > very satisfyingly play the main riff for ever and a day. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 23 12:23:12 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:23:12 +0100 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:13:17 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jul 23 14:58:06 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:58:06 -0400 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <3299642298.26881914@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, I tried to play guitar, I even figured out the chords to the intro, and verses to Floyd's echoes, the end piece of Saucer full of secrets, and Silver Machine. I wasn't very good at it, I sounded like I was trying to play guitar, rather than it sound like the guitar played the music. Granted I could have practiced a lot more, but we're talking about a cheap silvertone hand me down, I did manage to do bar chordsbut never learned anything about doing leads, and my mother paid for lessons. I studied a little classical and folk guitar, but that wasn't what I wanted. I really gave up when I tried to play the Kinks tune Till The End Of The Day, (1 of the best pop hit singles), but I couldn't do the changes keeping the right rhythm, even while playing very slowly, and my cat, Garcia, used to hide when I'd pull out the guitar. I tried piano too, but we had a psycho piano teacher who would seriously hit you for wrong fingering, or anything else she felt like taking her frustrations out on her students, and being children we were all too scared to complain. She still works at the Perkins School, maybe I should go back, knock her out with something, lock her in a room, and play the loudest heaviest music, and if there is such a thing as a brown note, she'd deserve multiple exposures to it. An out of tune guitar will drive me up a wall, I don't have perfect pitch, but it's relatively close. Rock on, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:18 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL I've never been a fan of the Dead, but as someone who's been wasting his time and money playing Rock Band lately, I have to say those weird little jangly trippy jammy tunes are fun as hell to play on a fake plastic scale model stratocaster. :) Btw, so is Don't Fear the Reaper. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008 7:55 pm Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET that's it, I'm prepared to declare the dead the "stupidest band in world history", and to personally torture each remaning member until they are worthless for anything other than the geriatric towers.....you know, where Trev lives now..... well, my hillage video's almost down on youtube,,,,,,gotta go On 7/22/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > Hi Jon, Do you have any links, or copies of interviews with Lemmy dealing with the psychoacoustics they played with back then. Dave is certainly a master at inducing certain states through sound. You may not be into them, but The Dead were into that sort of thing, too, and the subject has always fascinated me. I'm a psychology major, but don't have the grounding to learn much about psychacoustics, I guess there's a note called the Brown Note, that the Dead knew about that can literally make an entire group of people shit their pants. That's 1 way of doing a sonic attack, I trust Hawkwind with their use of such powerful knowledge. Please, if you, or anyone else has anymore info on the interviews, or psychoacoustics, let me know? > Many thanks > Kaduflyer > P.S. I'm trying to mend my wings right now, it's going to take a while. Thanks to Hawkwind, and everyone on both the Yahoo and BOC groups for the support I've been given during the worst time of my life. > -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:52 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL > On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:37:06PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > This is one of those things where people seem to remember it > > different, innit, most especially Lemmy and Nik, though I was > > listening to _1999 Party_ last night, with Nik doing his best menace > > over `Warriors at the Edge of Time' and thinking: "Nah. You were > > into the scary schtick then, mate, you just don't want to remember > > it that way". > > *well we disagree again....I think Nik doing those vocals is as good as it > ever got (for an american who wasn't at HW gigs then) and in fact I mailed > Nik about this very thing a few months ago* > *I liked Nik doing the vocals on stuff like that the very best..;;;;just my > opinion, not saying it's the right one or the best one....I have stated > b From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jul 23 14:58:06 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:58:06 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <3299642916.26943690@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, The name isn't familiar to me. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: "Owen O'Neill" Date: Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 2:00 am Subject: Re: TMTYL To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > bowl-disruptor effect Oh I meant "bowel"-disruptor. It's a fictional handheld weapon that does this From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 15:01:14 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:01:14 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <3299642916.26943690@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh, man XD On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Steve Swann wrote: > As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) > > Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: "Owen O'Neill" > Date: Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 2:00 am > Subject: Re: TMTYL > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > > bowl-disruptor effect > > Oh I meant "bowel"-disruptor. It's a fictional handheld weapon that does > this > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jul 23 15:08:08 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:08:08 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807230722y5e37d2c5kc74ef409dd14f617@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: While we were talking about Nik being scary, I was listening to Naked, and the sonic Attack is very disturbing, real fine synth. work, the whole band was tight. I didn't know how I'd feel about a trumpet playing SR music, but it all sounded fine to me. I use a sonic device to repell mosquitoes. I hate the critters, ak!! Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:22 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL and there's always the Ultrasonics the the creatures use.........and further, I would say that if I were at some of the HW gigs when they were doing Sonic Attack and such during the Distant Horizons era and had I taken anything "funny", I'd be inclined to say to myself "by George I think Hawkwind is blowing my mind, this is frightening" On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:28 , Steve Swann wrote: > >> As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) >> > > > [imagine "thumbs up" emoticon here] :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jul 23 15:20:06 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:20:06 -0700 Subject: TMTYL Message-ID: >From Wikipedia: Transmetropolitan is a postcyberpunk comic book series written by Warren Ellis with art by Darick Robertson and published by DC Comics. The series was originally part of the short-lived DC Comics imprint Helix Comics, but upon the end of the book's first year the series was moved to the Vertigo imprint as DC Comics cancelled the Helix Comics imprint. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary Sullivan To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:58:06 PM Subject: Re: TMTYL Hi Steve, The name isn't familiar to me. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows.? :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: "Owen O'Neill" Date: Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 2:00 am Subject: Re: TMTYL To: Reply-? ? BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > ? bowl-disruptor effect Oh I meant "bowel"-disruptor. It's a fictional handheld weapon that does this From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jul 23 15:39:25 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:39:25 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807230741r57faa57cp24ce78456633d581@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, Very interesting reading, it seems as though relatively little is known about the use of ultra, and infra sound, but a lot of alleged experiments have been done, finding the data to back them up is another matter. The gist of the article is that sound is impractical as a weapon due to it's dentrimental affects on the operator of the gismo, and the unpradictible affects on a large crowd, whether it be in an open or closed environment. I'm not qualified to do justice to the piece, thanks, Mike, and for all who are interested, I'd check out the link. Mike told me after finding it, he couldn't get back into the article, but even I got through, I guess your computer is having problems. With it being as old as it is, with no upgrades in memory, or other maintainance issues, I'm not surprised. I appreciat you putting the link in your posting. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:42 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL unless the US gov is holding back on everything fun, I think Waco proved I need not worry, here: *this would fall under psychoaccoustics wouldn't it??, I didn't read it: * http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/256/sonic_weapons.html On 7/23/08, mike coleman wrote: > > and there's always the Ultrasonics the the creatures use.........and > further, I would say that if I were at some of the HW gigs when they were > doing Sonic Attack and such during the Distant Horizons era and had I taken > anything "funny", I'd be inclined to say to myself "by George I think > Hawkwind is blowing my mind, this is frightening" > > On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >> On 23 Jul 2008, at 06:28 , Steve Swann wrote: >> >>> As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) >>> >> >> >> [imagine "thumbs up" emoticon here] :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jul 23 16:08:18 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:08:18 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <200807231623.m6NGNCcX002938@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: No, there were stupid kids, that weren't old enough to work for the bastards at the CIA, unless they employ teen-agers. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:23 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL mike coleman writes: > > she also tells me that on at least one occasion LSD was vaporized onto the > > crowd I bet only the CIA have done something so ridiculously stupid. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 16:14:19 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:14:19 -0500 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <200807231623.m6NGNCcX002938@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 7/23/08, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > > > he also tells me that on at least one occasion LSD was vaporized onto > the > > > crowd > > I bet only the CIA have done something so ridiculously stupid. > > FoFP > > Hey just because I'm over-the-hill, and untrustworthy to the young hippies > and headed for the geriatric towers soon, doesn't mean I'm not progressive, > I want Mary to have her full experience, that's why I only ask that it be > done person by person in little booths..... I didn't believe any of it either which was one of the reasons I tried to stop the flow of these things even getting formed verbally, but as of this morining I am told that a brown note can be traced to Phil Lesh.....I give up From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jul 23 16:32:45 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:32:45 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807231314x165deef5pa1f0aed9f9ce7ee8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What have I started here, oh no!!! Love, Mary P.S. Mike, you give up, I'm shocked, I never thought I'd hear those words from you, but we both do like to have the last word, don't we? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL On 7/23/08, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > > > he also tells me that on at least one occasion LSD was vaporized onto > the > > > crowd > > I bet only the CIA have done something so ridiculously stupid. > > FoFP > > Hey just because I'm over-the-hill, and untrustworthy to the young hippies > and headed for the geriatric towers soon, doesn't mean I'm not progressive, > I want Mary to have her full experience, that's why I only ask that it be > done person by person in little booths..... I didn't believe any of it either which was one of the reasons I tried to stop the flow of these things even getting formed verbally, but as of this morining I am told that a brown note can be traced to Phil Lesh.....I give up From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 23 17:36:14 2008 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:36:14 -0400 Subject: (SPAM) Hawkwind Goodies on Ebay In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807120518v337c0792n7bbcd4c63b6349bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ??Hi Everybody. Apologies for more SPAM. I've listed some goodies on Ebay including a Hawkwind Area S4 EP, a couple of fanzines, tour programs, a sticker sheet from the eighties, a Hawkestra baseball cap, and some autographed, and not autographed 8 by 10 photos. Thanks for any interest. Yours, Eli From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 17:37:51 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:37:51 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Phishing For Donations Message-ID: I am currently offering the answer to everything freely, since it took me over 17 years to get it from just one letter on a Steve Hillage album, and I am simply asking for donations of any amount for Trev's geriatrics fund since he goes through more adult diapers than he is alotted as a way of saying thank you, you will receive the very handy cover of him doing the Walker Brothers "No Regrets" from myself, which will be very handy in clearing those late-night hanger-ons with empty pockets and large tummys..... donations to: judge48 at hotmail.com From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jul 23 23:46:35 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:46:35 -0400 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807230757sb279f8bqc93148939a00836a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I didn't indulge in anything at my first Dead show, but I got it, crystal clear, I was offered some wine, and smoke, but I knew I'd probably dig the smoke too much, so I decided to wait till I was older before thinking of indulging in anything, and that's the real acid test, if it works without the drugs that's a cool thing. Mike, isn't it interesting, how we can be coming from such different places, ideologically and still connect. That's what I love about the music I listen to, aside from the music, I love interacting with other fans, especially those who know more than I do, which includes almost everyone here on this forum, and other Hawkwind forums too. I want to keep learning and growing. Stay cool, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:58 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > "\them tripping to "get it". >> Well, actually, I never saw them whilst tripping either, but I still >> rather feel like I got something there. :) " >> >> I was simply annoyed at mary, since I've gotten almost too close with her, >> and she knows how much I HATE hearing the 2 things regarding the Dead......I >> think we'd be poor Hawkwind fans not to realize that the Dead certainly had >> talent in quantity, regardless if it didn't appeal to all..... >> >> My younger next-door neighbor was a complete Dead-Head, and he had Warrior >> before I did, and he wouldn't sell it or trade it with me, and I >> contemplated (unseriously) doing a break-in, especially since my mom swore >> she saw him as one of the getaways with one of my guitars.......I later had >> eyes for his younger sister who sadly was another who thought you can "play" >> with Heroin, and her friend who was also rather lovely, is no longer with >> us......overdose....but anyway, Karen, his sister, said Alan (him) would >> have "Fire On The Mountain", "Fire On The Mountain", playing playing... >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 24 00:01:32 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:01:32 -0500 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: well, all isn't lost, we will now plan an attack on the piano teacher I'm not an idiot, I just have low self-esteem Jerry Garcia is (was) known to be an extremely talented guitarist I may become a fan some day, but I have all this quantity of British space-stuff that just doesn't allow my attention out very far also wanted to say I enjoyed everyone who hasn't flamed and Owen's especially though I must reread it peace and to make this more "less annoying" how about my now sending a post that I had saved in draft form to spare the masses but before that, I have had this EGG cd for 18 years, and I am once again trying to "get" it..... here: I was just really mindless and typed "top psychedelic albums of all time" into a search, and got EXACTLY what I expected first, this one, that I got annoyed by: http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/qlistspage3.htm#Psychedelic! then, the next place I went, had this first: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=803321 On 7/23/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I didn't indulge in anything at my first Dead show, but I got it, crystal > clear, I was offered some wine, and smoke, but I knew I'd probably dig the > smoke too much, so I decided to wait till I was older before thinking of > indulging in anything, and that's the real acid test, if it works without > the drugs that's a cool thing. > Mike, isn't it interesting, how we can be coming from such different > places, > ideologically and still connect. That's what I love about the music I > listen to, aside from the music, I love interacting with other fans, > especially those who know more than I do, which includes almost everyone > here on this forum, and other Hawkwind forums too. I want to keep learning > and growing. > > Stay cool, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:58 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL > > > On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > > "\them tripping to "get it". > >> Well, actually, I never saw them whilst tripping either, but I still > >> rather feel like I got something there. :) " > >> > >> I was simply annoyed at mary, since I've gotten almost too close with > her, > >> and she knows how much I HATE hearing the 2 things regarding the > Dead......I > >> think we'd be poor Hawkwind fans not to realize that the Dead certainly > had > >> talent in quantity, regardless if it didn't appeal to all..... > >> > >> My younger next-door neighbor was a complete Dead-Head, and he had > Warrior > >> before I did, and he wouldn't sell it or trade it with me, and I > >> contemplated (unseriously) doing a break-in, especially since my mom > swore > >> she saw him as one of the getaways with one of my guitars.......I later > had > >> eyes for his younger sister who sadly was another who thought you can > "play" > >> with Heroin, and her friend who was also rather lovely, is no longer > with > >> us......overdose....but anyway, Karen, his sister, said Alan (him) would > >> have "Fire On The Mountain", "Fire On The Mountain", playing playing... > >> > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 24 03:15:33 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:15:33 -0500 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807232101idc6969ex943835b762485249@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: uh, silly string costs money, scrap the first line so o> to> infinity means time reduction and infinite acceleraton huh....... I wish einstein was around to ask what a previous bad boy is to do with his philosophy, ah well.....maybe if you are profound enough something might happen,,,hmm On 7/23/08, mike coleman wrote: > > well, all isn't lost, we will now plan an attack on the piano teacher > I'm not an idiot, I just have low self-esteem > Jerry Garcia is (was) known to be an extremely talented guitarist > I may become a fan some day, but I have all this quantity of British > space-stuff that just doesn't allow my attention out very far > also wanted to say I enjoyed everyone who hasn't flamed and Owen's > especially though I must reread it > peace > and to make this more "less annoying" how about my now sending a post that > I had saved in draft form to spare the masses > but before that, I have had this EGG cd for 18 years, and I am once again > trying to "get" it..... > here: > I was just really mindless and typed "top psychedelic albums of all time" > into a search, and got EXACTLY what I expected > first, this one, that I got annoyed by: > http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/qlistspage3.htm#Psychedelic! > then, the next place I went, had this first: > http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=803321 > > > > On 7/23/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >> >> I didn't indulge in anything at my first Dead show, but I got it, crystal >> clear, I was offered some wine, and smoke, but I knew I'd probably dig the >> smoke too much, so I decided to wait till I was older before thinking of >> indulging in anything, and that's the real acid test, if it works without >> the drugs that's a cool thing. >> Mike, isn't it interesting, how we can be coming from such different >> places, >> ideologically and still connect. That's what I love about the music I >> listen to, aside from the music, I love interacting with other fans, >> especially those who know more than I do, which includes almost everyone >> here on this forum, and other Hawkwind forums too. I want to keep >> learning >> and growing. >> >> Stay cool, >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:58 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL >> >> >> On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> > >> > "\them tripping to "get it". >> >> Well, actually, I never saw them whilst tripping either, but I still >> >> rather feel like I got something there. :) " >> >> >> >> I was simply annoyed at mary, since I've gotten almost too close with >> her, >> >> and she knows how much I HATE hearing the 2 things regarding the >> Dead......I >> >> think we'd be poor Hawkwind fans not to realize that the Dead certainly >> had >> >> talent in quantity, regardless if it didn't appeal to all..... >> >> >> >> My younger next-door neighbor was a complete Dead-Head, and he had >> Warrior >> >> before I did, and he wouldn't sell it or trade it with me, and I >> >> contemplated (unseriously) doing a break-in, especially since my mom >> swore >> >> she saw him as one of the getaways with one of my guitars.......I later >> had >> >> eyes for his younger sister who sadly was another who thought you can >> "play" >> >> with Heroin, and her friend who was also rather lovely, is no longer >> with >> >> us......overdose....but anyway, Karen, his sister, said Alan (him) >> would >> >> have "Fire On The Mountain", "Fire On The Mountain", playing playing... >> >> >> > >> > > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 24 07:49:37 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:49:37 -0700 Subject: TMTYL Message-ID: Apologies for the lack of context there - Warren Ellis is a comic writer, sometimes called the Internet Jesus. :) He is widely considered to be a peer of such comics luminaries as Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman. You could google for his "Edison Hate Future" one panel comics - they all feature the exact same visual, which is a classic black and white drawing of Thomas Edison sitting next to some device (presumably his first telephone prototype), with tubes/wires going into his ears from the machine, and an oddly intense expression on his face. For a while Ellis was writing a new caption for that drawing every few weeks. Some of them are excruciatingly funny if you're at all up on pop culture and internet trends, and have a slightly sick sense of humor. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Mary Sullivan Date: Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 3:01 pm Subject: Re: TMTYL To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Hi Steve, The name isn't familiar to me. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: "Owen O'Neill" Date: Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 2:00 am Subject: Re: TMTYL To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > bowl-disruptor effect Oh I meant "bowel"-disruptor. It's a fictional handheld weapon that does this From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 24 08:55:35 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:55:35 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Phishing For Donations In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807231437v29750154raa1ee594c2c0d5c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: just because i bootleg everyone - he has to bootleg me pah! trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:37 PM To: Subject: (OFF) Phishing For Donations > I am currently offering the answer to everything freely, since it took me > over 17 years to get it from just one letter on a Steve Hillage album, and > I > am simply asking for donations of any amount for Trev's geriatrics fund > since he goes through more adult diapers than he is alotted > as a way of saying thank you, you will receive the very handy cover of him > doing the Walker Brothers "No Regrets" from myself, which will be very > handy > in clearing those late-night hanger-ons with empty pockets and large > tummys..... > donations to: judge48 at hotmail.com > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jul 24 09:21:10 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:21:10 -0500 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <767EF8F1-08E8-4EEE-8652-3BC339CF0426@cellsum.com> Message-ID: On 23 Jul 2008, at 10:22 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > Not so much Buck but Andy Winters, the bass player, was a big fan > of Phil Lesh and we did open for them once and they were very nice > to us. Ah, thanks for the clarification! I knew I remembered there was someone from back in the SWUB days that was something of a fan. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jul 24 11:01:11 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:01:11 -0400 Subject: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <3299730577.123468@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: I wish I could get more into commics, people always told me that the graphic stuff is integrated with the plot, and I love X-men, The late Larry Boyd gave me a book containing all 9 comics of the story of The Pheonix since he knew I thought Jean Gray was really cool, and of course, he knew about my interest in telepathy. Happy trailsto you all, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:50 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL Apologies for the lack of context there - Warren Ellis is a comic writer, sometimes called the Internet Jesus. :) He is widely considered to be a peer of such comics luminaries as Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman. You could google for his "Edison Hate Future" one panel comics - they all feature the exact same visual, which is a classic black and white drawing of Thomas Edison sitting next to some device (presumably his first telephone prototype), with tubes/wires going into his ears from the machine, and an oddly intense expression on his face. For a while Ellis was writing a new caption for that drawing every few weeks. Some of them are excruciatingly funny if you're at all up on pop culture and internet trends, and have a slightly sick sense of humor. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Mary Sullivan Date: Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 3:01 pm Subject: Re: TMTYL To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Hi Steve, The name isn't familiar to me. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: TMTYL As any fan of Warren Ellis' Transmetropolitan well knows. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: "Owen O'Neill" Date: Wednesday, Jul 23, 2008 2:00 am Subject: Re: TMTYL To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > bowl-disruptor effect Oh I meant "bowel"-disruptor. It's a fictional handheld weapon that does this From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jul 24 11:01:10 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:01:10 -0400 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807240015u5f5648c6xd0087896dd9826c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: uh, silly string costs money, scrap the first lineHa? Call me later, I need to center before therapy. Later Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:16 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL uh, silly string costs money, scrap the first line so o> to> infinity means time reduction and infinite acceleraton huh....... I wish einstein was around to ask what a previous bad boy is to do with his philosophy, ah well.....maybe if you are profound enough something might happen,,,hmm On 7/23/08, mike coleman wrote: > > well, all isn't lost, we will now plan an attack on the piano teacher > I'm not an idiot, I just have low self-esteem > Jerry Garcia is (was) known to be an extremely talented guitarist > I may become a fan some day, but I have all this quantity of British > space-stuff that just doesn't allow my attention out very far > also wanted to say I enjoyed everyone who hasn't flamed and Owen's > especially though I must reread it > peace > and to make this more "less annoying" how about my now sending a post that > I had saved in draft form to spare the masses > but before that, I have had this EGG cd for 18 years, and I am once again > trying to "get" it..... > here: > I was just really mindless and typed "top psychedelic albums of all time" > into a search, and got EXACTLY what I expected > first, this one, that I got annoyed by: > http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/qlistspage3.htm#Psychedelic! > then, the next place I went, had this first: > http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=803321 > > > > On 7/23/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >> >> I didn't indulge in anything at my first Dead show, but I got it, crystal >> clear, I was offered some wine, and smoke, but I knew I'd probably dig the >> smoke too much, so I decided to wait till I was older before thinking of >> indulging in anything, and that's the real acid test, if it works without >> the drugs that's a cool thing. >> Mike, isn't it interesting, how we can be coming from such different >> places, >> ideologically and still connect. That's what I love about the music I >> listen to, aside from the music, I love interacting with other fans, >> especially those who know more than I do, which includes almost everyone >> here on this forum, and other Hawkwind forums too. I want to keep >> learning >> and growing. >> >> Stay cool, >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:58 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL >> >> >> On 7/23/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> > >> > "\them tripping to "get it". >> >> Well, actually, I never saw them whilst tripping either, but I still >> >> rather feel like I got something there. :) " >> >> >> >> I was simply annoyed at mary, since I've gotten almost too close with >> her, >> >> and she knows how much I HATE hearing the 2 things regarding the >> Dead......I >> >> think we'd be poor Hawkwind fans not to realize that the Dead certainly >> had >> >> talent in quantity, regardless if it didn't appeal to all..... >> >> >> >> My younger next-door neighbor was a complete Dead-Head, and he had >> Warrior >> >> before I did, and he wouldn't sell it or trade it with me, and I >> >> contemplated (unseriously) doing a break-in, especially since my mom >> swore >> >> she saw him as one of the getaways with one of my guitars.......I later >> had >> >> eyes for his younger sister who sadly was another who thought you can >> "play" >> >> with Heroin, and her friend who was also rather lovely, is no longer >> with >> >> us......overdose....but anyway, Karen, his sister, said Alan (him) >> would >> >> have "Fire On The Mountain", "Fire On The Mountain", playing playing... >> >> >> > >> > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jul 24 11:11:12 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:11:12 -0400 Subject: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think Phil is the most intelligent member of the band, Garcia, Phil, and Mickey are the most intelligent musically,, but I think the entire band was great. I miss them a lot, and think that the rest of the band have done well to keep the scene alive. I think the Jam Bands are cool stuff, too, Chris was really into that sound. I'd say musically it was his first love. We met through going to the Dead, (indirectly).Prog Rock is mine, so our collection was (at 1 time, I don't know what it's like now), extensive. We had a Euro and American divider in the collection. There is so much Spacerock out there I'll never catch up, Dave Adams' SRS helps me stay connected, as do postings from everyone else. Stay cool, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:21 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF BABBLE)Re: TMTYL On 23 Jul 2008, at 10:22 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > Not so much Buck but Andy Winters, the bass player, was a big fan > of Phil Lesh and we did open for them once and they were very nice > to us. Ah, thanks for the clarification! I knew I remembered there was someone from back in the SWUB days that was something of a fan. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 24 11:42:46 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:42:46 +0100 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807120518v337c0792n7bbcd4c63b6349bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 07:18:48AM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > them > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us I didn't reply to this when it came in, I should have. What I did instead was go and find _California Brainstorm_ and mentally thank him for making it sound that way. So sorry, Mary, but I hope you find the good in life again somehow. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jul 24 12:26:46 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:26:46 -0700 Subject: happy birthday Albert! Message-ID: Crawdaddy says it's your birthday. My dad was born a year before you. Gary From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jul 24 12:31:21 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:31:21 -0400 Subject: happy birthday Albert! In-Reply-To: <460912.69062.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hey mamn, Albert, Have a great 1, I know we've communicated a bit on line. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:27 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: happy birthday Albert! Crawdaddy says it's your birthday. My dad was born a year before you. Gary From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Thu Jul 24 13:01:28 2008 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:01:28 -0400 Subject: happy birthday Albert! In-Reply-To: <460912.69062.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I thought Albert's b-day was the 24th of May? In which case, Happy Birthday, Late, Early or Otherwise. --Eric On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:26:46 -0400, gary shindler wrote: > Crawdaddy says it's your birthday. My dad was born a year before you. > Gary > > > -- "Until Further Notice I am Unique!" From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 24 13:18:10 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:18:10 -0500 Subject: happy birthday Albert! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm trying to figure it out myself right now.... if you google it, the initial link says today, but when you end up on wiki, it's may welcome to 2 birthdays and may they both be happy.....the word may was in that sentence.....hmm On 7/24/08, E F wrote: > > I thought Albert's b-day was the 24th of May? In which case, Happy > Birthday, Late, Early or Otherwise. > > --Eric > > > > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:26:46 -0400, gary shindler > wrote: > > Crawdaddy says it's your birthday. My dad was born a year before you. >> Gary >> >> >> >> > > > -- > "Until Further Notice I am Unique!" > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jul 24 15:11:37 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:11:37 -0400 Subject: important sad news folks In-Reply-To: <20080724154246.GA24767@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Hi Jon, I know Chris would heartily approve of your choice of action. He was proud to have been involved in that project. Thanks for everything, I enjoy your postings. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 07:18:48AM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > them > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us I didn't reply to this when it came in, I should have. What I did instead was go and find _California Brainstorm_ and mentally thank him for making it sound that way. So sorry, Mary, but I hope you find the good in life again somehow. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jul 24 15:15:41 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:15:41 -0700 Subject: important sad news folks Message-ID: ----- Original Message Glad to "know" your husband more, Mary. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary Sullivan To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:11:37 PM Subject: Re: important sad news folks Hi Jon, I know Chris would heartily approve of your choice of action.? He was proud to have been involved in that project. Thanks for everything, I enjoy your postings. Your friend, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: important sad news folks On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 07:18:48AM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > I just woke up to one of those messages that don't seem real when you get > them > Mary's Bruce's husband Chris, is no longer with us ??? I didn't reply to this when it came in, I should have. What I did instead was go and find _California Brainstorm_ and mentally thank him for making it sound that way. So sorry, Mary, but I hope you find the good in life again somehow. Yours, ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" ??? ? ? (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From albert at CELLSUM.COM Thu Jul 24 21:09:58 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:09:58 -0400 Subject: happy birthday Albert! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That is correct but thanks for the wishes anyway. Al On Jul 24, 2008, at 1:01 PM, E F wrote: > I thought Albert's b-day was the 24th of May? In which case, Happy > Birthday, Late, Early or Otherwise. > > --Eric > > > > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:26:46 -0400, gary shindler > wrote: > >> Crawdaddy says it's your birthday. My dad was born a year before you. >> Gary >> >> >> > > > > -- > "Until Further Notice I am Unique!" > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 24 22:49:35 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (lone charioteer) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:49:35 -0500 Subject: happy birthday Albert! In-Reply-To: <0EA556E1-665C-465A-BE47-8CD75CE10D0E@cellsum.com> Message-ID: then came the last days of may (I thought it seemed too soon) the blue oyster cullt On 7/24/08, Albert Bouchard wrote: > > That is correct but thanks for the wishes anyway. > Al > On Jul 24, 2008, at 1:01 PM, E F wrote: > > I thought Albert's b-day was the 24th of May? In which case, Happy >> Birthday, Late, Early or Otherwise. >> >> --Eric >> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:26:46 -0400, gary shindler >> wrote: >> >> Crawdaddy says it's your birthday. My dad was born a year before you. >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "Until Further Notice I am Unique!" >> >> From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Jul 25 09:37:42 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:37:42 -0500 Subject: happy birthday Albert! In-Reply-To: <0EA556E1-665C-465A-BE47-8CD75CE10D0E@cellsum.com> Message-ID: On 24 Jul 2008, at 20:09 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > That is correct but thanks for the wishes anyway. Happy Extra-Special-Bonus-Internet-Enabled Birthday! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Jul 25 16:03:37 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:03:37 +0100 Subject: Out Of The Shadows CD Message-ID: When did this get released? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hawkwind-Out-Of-The-Shadows-Live-Concert-CD_W0QQitemZ220260780436QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220260780436&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318 I usually buy all unique CD's and whilst I knew the DVD was available I did not know of the CD. Got a copy and happy (except as with DVD) Arthur not knowing the lyrics! Nice digipac. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Jul 26 14:05:00 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:05:00 +0100 Subject: Knights of Space Message-ID: We now have 3 release dates - one for each format, on HMV http://hmv.com/hmvweb/simpleSearch.do?searchUID=&pGroupID=-1&adultFlag=false&simpleSearchString=hawkwind+knights&primaryID=-1 Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Sun Jul 27 04:18:13 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:18:13 +0200 Subject: HW: Calvert memorial Gig Message-ID: Hej Anyone planning to go to this: At the moment, the line up for the memorial concert is as follows.... Nik Turner, Adrian Shaw, Harvey Bainbridge, Alan Davey, Martin Griffin, Steve Swindells, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Nick Calvert + special Guests. The concert is on 28th September, Kings Hall, Herne Bay, UK There will be a fan convention from 3pm and Music from 8pm. Tickets are ?9 on the door or Advance from www.seetickets.com (subject to booking fee) Line up is correct as far as I know at the moment but checking Nik Turners website WWW.NIKTURNER.COM might be a good idea. Scott ObCD- ?resund Space Collective- Inside your Head (out in August) ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Sun Jul 27 04:19:10 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:19:10 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawkfest 2008 Message-ID: Hej Any reports from hawkfest? Any annoucements from the band about a new CD before the tour in December, perhaps?? Set lists???? Waiting patiently..... Scott ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Jul 27 06:27:46 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:27:46 +0000 Subject: HW: Calvert memorial Gig In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E921457BF33D@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: Possibly! Trying to work out finances and stuff! --- On Sun, 7/27/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW: Calvert memorial Gig To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 9:18 AM Hej Anyone planning to go to this: At the moment, the line up for the memorial concert is as follows.... Nik Turner, Adrian Shaw, Harvey Bainbridge, Alan Davey, Martin Griffin, Steve Swindells, Jerry Richards, Ron Tree, Nick Calvert + special Guests. The concert is on 28th September, Kings Hall, Herne Bay, UK There will be a fan convention from 3pm and Music from 8pm. Tickets are ?9 on the door or Advance from www.seetickets.com (subject to booking fee) Line up is correct as far as I know at the moment but checking Nik Turners website WWW.NIKTURNER.COM might be a good idea. Scott ObCD- ?resund Space Collective- Inside your Head (out in August) ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Mon Jul 28 06:00:56 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:00:56 +0200 Subject: HW: In holland Aug 2nd Message-ID: Hej Anyone going to this free show in Holland? http://www.schollenpop.nl/2008/index2008.htm scott From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Jul 26 19:00:10 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:00:10 +0000 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question Message-ID: I finally just got Hawk Meets Penguin on CD. No info at all on it. I know this is the 'other' UK Amon Duul like the Die Losung CD with Robert Calvert. What are the personell lineups on these CDs of the UK AD? they are so obscure and are now being remastered. these are the other ADUK ones on my wantlist: Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (CD) Amon D??l (UK) - Meeting With Menmachines (CD) Amon D??l (UK) - Experimente (CD) Amon D??l (UK) - Airs On A Shoestring (CD) Any help would be appreciated. best Christian __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Jul 26 20:25:56 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:25:56 +0000 Subject: HW: The Truth About Us Message-ID: I didnt think the new Pre-Med CD was as good/excellent/mindblowing as Its Medication Time. They have a new young member whose guitar skills doesent match the spiderman-soloing guitar pyrotechnics of Lewis Turner and the production is pretty muffled in fuzz. IMO. I'll give it another try once the trauma of the Paradogs/earth lab thingie of Jerry Richards wears of - terrible boring and outdated techno!!!!!!! regards christian __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From denis at PTI-INC.DE Mon Jul 28 09:47:47 2008 From: denis at PTI-INC.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:47:47 +0200 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question In-Reply-To: <85700.50373.qm@web23007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Christian, On 27.07.2008, at 01:00, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > I finally just got Hawk Meets Penguin on CD. No info at all on it. I > know this is the 'other' UK Amon Duul like the Die Losung CD with > Robert Calvert. What are the personell lineups on these CDs of the > UK AD? I don't have the CD myself, but from what I know AD UK is basically just John Weinzierl (g, voc) and Dave Anderson (b) plus an assortment of various guest musicians. For the "Hawk meets Penguin" CD those were Guy Evans on drums/ percussion and Julie Wareing on female vocals. On the "Die L?sung" the guests also were Evans and Wareing, plus additionally Ed Wynne (g, syn) and Joie Hinton (syn) from the Ozric Tentacles, Robert Calvert (voc), Mick Jones (dr), Tony McPhee (g), Marcus Diess (perc) and Mick Chetwood (syn). (c)IAO D+R np: Amon D??l II, "Made in Germany" From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Jul 28 11:23:54 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:23:54 +0200 Subject: In holland Aug 2nd In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E9214597CC0B@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: Hi Scott I'll be there. With Chris, Rainer and Andreas !! What about you ? Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: In holland Aug 2nd Hej Anyone going to this free show in Holland? http://www.schollenpop.nl/2008/index2008.htm scott From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 29 07:14:36 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:14:36 -0500 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question In-Reply-To: <6E68A2DD-D3B2-4F63-9D69-A0DC3007E22E@pti-inc.de> Message-ID: "hawk meets penguin", is, out of my entire collection, the one cd that over the years I have repeatedly forgotten if I actually own it or not, and yesterday was no exception....I do not know how or why I have it, since the vinyl didn't do much for me in my younger years.... anyway, my CD of it says "Amon Duul 2", not the most rightous "Amon Duul" (opinion firmly on display)....also, kudos to Magnum with the use of black ink on the inner booklet, when they could have made it an insert or white.....I guess the dark is on purpose I recommend medication for the absence of Fool Moon.....something that causes "mask face" and drooling On 7/28/08, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > Hi Christian, > > > On 27.07.2008, at 01:00, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > I finally just got Hawk Meets Penguin on CD. No info at all on it. I know >> this is the 'other' UK Amon Duul like the Die Losung CD with Robert Calvert. >> What are the personell lineups on these CDs of the UK AD? >> > > I don't have the CD myself, but from what I know AD UK is basically just > John Weinzierl (g, voc) and Dave Anderson (b) plus an assortment of various > guest musicians. > For the "Hawk meets Penguin" CD those were Guy Evans on drums/percussion > and Julie Wareing on female vocals. > On the "Die L?sung" the guests also were Evans and Wareing, plus > additionally Ed Wynne (g, syn) and Joie Hinton (syn) from the Ozric > Tentacles, Robert Calvert (voc), Mick Jones (dr), Tony McPhee (g), Marcus > Diess (perc) and Mick Chetwood (syn). > > (c)IAO > D+R > np: Amon D??l II, "Made in Germany" From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jul 29 07:41:16 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:41:16 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Off: AMON DUUL question In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807290440m5d88d46ex8a25072ddcc2eca0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/29/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > Too much speed gives you that stretch canvas masque. Look like a movie > queen. See you all at the hoolabandoola White Stripes party, a friendly > Christian-worshipping band i have fallen in love with......... via alt.punk, > haha i am so cool and so are they. NP: "Elephant" by The White Stripes > *This is terrible, I've seen it all too many times now, and it can lead to boy-bands like Menudo collecting...* *let's just nip this wrong trend right in the bud * *STRONG DISCLAMER, if you are simply "common folk", are easily religiously offended, fear self-thinking, or simply have a constipation in the sense of humor department due to insecurity of faith, LEAVE THIS YOUTUBE VID FOR CHRISTIAN and DO NOT WATCH IT!!!!! (or allow other family members to see it, etc)* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDENmSJIlMI&feature=related ** From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jul 28 12:38:05 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:38:05 +0000 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question Message-ID: cheers Christian ----- Origin thanks for info.......!!!!! cheers Christian ----- Original Message ---- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, 28 July, 2008 3:47:47 PM Subject: Re: Off: AMON DUUL question Hi Christian, On 27.07.2008, at 01:00, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > I finally just got Hawk Meets Penguin on CD. No info at all on it. I > know this is the 'other' UK Amon Duul like the Die Losung CD with > Robert Calvert. What are the personell lineups on these CDs of the > UK AD? I don't have the CD myself, but from what I know AD UK is basically just John Weinzierl (g, voc) and Dave Anderson (b) plus an assortment of various guest musicians. For the "Hawk meets Penguin" CD those were Guy Evans on drums/ percussion and Julie Wareing on female vocals. On the "Die L?sung" the guests also were Evans and Wareing, plus additionally Ed Wynne (g, syn) and Joie Hinton (syn) from the Ozric Tentacles, Robert Calvert (voc), Mick Jones (dr), Tony McPhee (g), Marcus Diess (perc) and Mick Chetwood (syn). (c)IAO D+R np: Amon D??l II, "Made in Germany" __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Jul 29 07:31:44 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:31:44 +0000 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question Message-ID: Too much speed gives you that stretch canvas masque. Look like a movie queen. See you all at the hoolabandoola White Stripes party, a friendly Christian-worshipping band i have fallen in love with......... via alt.punk, haha i am so cool and so are they. NP: "Elephant" by The White Stripes I recommend medication for the absence of Fool Moon.....something that causes "mask face" and drooling On 7/28/08, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > Hi Christian, > > > On 27.07.2008, at 01:00, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > I finally just got Hawk Meets Penguin on CD. No info at all on it. I know >> this is the 'other' UK Amon Duul like the Die Losung CD with Robert Calvert. >> What are the personell lineups on these CDs of the UK AD? >> > > I don't have the CD myself, but from what I know AD UK is basically just > John Weinzierl (g, voc) and Dave Anderson (b) plus an assortment of various > guest musicians. > For the "Hawk meets Penguin" CD those were Guy Evans on drums/percussion > and Julie Wareing on female vocals. > On the "Die L?sung" the guests also were Evans and Wareing, plus > additionally Ed Wynne (g, syn) and Joie Hinton (syn) from the Ozric > Tentacles, Robert Calvert (voc), Mick Jones (dr), Tony McPhee (g), Marcus > Diess (perc) and Mick Chetwood (syn). > > (c)IAO > D+R > np: Amon D??l II, "Made in Germany" __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jul 29 13:08:40 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:08:40 +0000 Subject: weekly 'last days jams' hosted by Moogy Klingman ( Stewkey and I to guest on August 14th ) Message-ID: weekly 'last days jams' hosted by Moogy Klingman Hi Friends,I want to pass on the information below about a weekly gathering put on by The Moogy Klingman Band. It's called 'Last Days', and it's going to be a great series. If you have a free Thursday night, and you are in or near New York City, you should try to come out for this, because there is no admission price and you will have the opportunity to see some of the city's top players and singers. I will be guesting along with Stewkey of NAZZ on August 14th.Hope to see some of you there! Peace, Mike Burro http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkeyMoogy's message and info below>Hi Folks, We're having summer fun every Thursday nite at Sapphire starting this Thursday, July 31st. Sapphire, an absolutely beautiful air conditioned club down on 249 Eldridge street, one block west of 1st Avenue, just a few doors down from Houston street. It's in the heart of the East Village and it's one happening area.There's no cover or admission (though we will be passing the hat for the band) and it's just a one drink minimum and there will be cheap drink deals.It's going to be a singer's showcase as well as my band with Jim Satten on guitar, Denny Mcdermett on drums and Even Steven Levee on bass. It's going for 5 Thursdays, 7 to 10 pm, July 31st, August 7th, Aug. 14th, Aug 21st, and Aug 28th.We're gonna have the best singers in NYC sitting in with us, and some great players. Please don't miss it.- MoogyMoogy Klingman/Jim Satten band withEven Steven Levee & Denny McDermett"The Singer's showcase" ISapphire at 249 Eldridge st. 1 block west of 1st Avenue at Houston st.7 to 10 pm, Thursdays July 31st, Aug. 7th, Aug. 14th, Aug. 21st, Aug.28th!! in Manhattan's East Village - No Cover, cheap drink deals!!reservations - moogyking at aol.com or 212 724 0242Don't miss the Moogy Klingman band's YouTube videos at the moogymusic. com website!!Moogy Klingman - Moogy was a founding member of Todd Rundgren's "Utopia". Moogy will be performing the Utopia theme as well as songs from his Capitol, EMI and Moogymusic solo albums - songs that went on to be recorded by people like Johny Winter, Eric Clapton, Barry Manilow, Bette Midler, Todd Rundgren and others. Moogy's band will be playing other songs he wrote like "Dust in the Wind" which Todd Rundgren recorded on his "Something, Anything" album and Axel Rose & Guns & Roses does live in concert (on their very occasional gigs).He'll also be doing a song he co-wrote with Buzzy Linhart called, "You Gotta Have Friends', which is Bett Midler's theme song.Moogy has played, recorded and/or had his songs covered by many rock legends, including Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Luther Van Dross, Bob Dylan, Bo Diddley, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Allan Woody and Warren Haynes from the Allman Bros & Gov't Mule. Moogy has worked with great female rockers like Bette Midler, Carly Simon, Cindy Lauper, Shawn Colvin, Irene Cara, and Thelma Houston. www. moogymusic. comJim Satin on guitar is a Blues/R & B guitar legend. He was Bo Diddley's lead guitarist and band leader for 14 years and lead the Ron Wood Band (of the Rolling Stones) on a world tour.He and Moogy also played together in the "Moogy/Woody Band" with Allmans Brothers alumni Allan Woody, and Warren Haynes. Jim was Ronnie Spector and the Ronette's guitarist and band leader for several years (she was just inducted into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame).Jim has played guitar for the original Temptations (David Ruffin & Eddie Kendricks), and Sam and Dave, among many other great blues and R & B acts. Jim played guitar on the Buzzy Linhart/Moogy Klingman mini - tour with Phoebe Snow as guest vocalist, last summer. www. jimsatten. comEven Steven Levee has been recording and playing bass with Moogy for many years in bands like "Moogy and the Mojo's" and "Freak Parade". Even also performed on the Buzzy Linhart/Moogy Klingman mini -tour with Phoebe Snow. Even has worked with many blues, rock and fusion acts including Blues The Hard Way, Brad Factor:10, Lost At Home, Life Force and he appears on RattleSnake Guitar: The Music of Peter Green CD and The Peter Green Song Book. In addition Even is a producer for i-Potato Music working with MC Magic D, Gun Hill, Barbara Lee George and Lovin' Spoonful founding member, Joe Butler. Even's website is www. bassmastergeneral. comDenny McDermett has played drums with Moogy on many occasion throughout the years. Denny also plays drums for many great acts including Donald Fagan of Steely Dan, Phoebe Snow and The Bacon Brothers. He is considered one of NYC's top drummers. http://www. granatino. com/sdresource/17mcderm. htm _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_family_safety_072008 From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 31 10:48:50 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:48:50 +0000 Subject: what i need in a trade :-) Message-ID: http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-American-Hero-Complete-Notebook/ http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-American-Hero-Complete-Notebook/dp/B000GRUR4G http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Carl-Sagan-DVD-Set/dp/B000055ZOB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1217515531&sr=1-1 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jul 31 15:41:43 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:41:43 -0700 Subject: what i need in a trade :-) Message-ID: I was a fan of "GAH" when it was on. Robert Culp was a badass.?I remember one of those erotic thriller movies with William Katt and Shannon Tweed. Dave Thomas did a Carl Sagan impersonation on "SCTV" which I'm more familiar with than "Cosmos."?? Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:48:50 AM Subject: what i need in a trade :-) http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-American-Hero-Complete-Notebook/ ? http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-American-Hero-Complete-Notebook/dp/B000GRUR4G http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Carl-Sagan-DVD-Set/dp/B000055ZOB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1217515531&sr=1-1 ? ? ? __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Thu Jul 31 15:51:21 2008 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:51:21 -0400 Subject: (SPAM) HAWKWIND VINYL SINGLES GALORE ON EBAY Message-ID: Hi. My usual apologies for sending SPAM. But...I've just listed about 25 Hawkwind and related (Brock, Calvert, Moorcock) 7 inch vinyl singles (remember those) up on Ebay with nice picture sleeves on most of them. I made the insane move of putting them each up for a $5 minimum, so don't let me down now...bid those babies up. Some of these are quite rare. Thanks for any interest. Yours, Eli From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Thu Jul 31 16:12:44 2008 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:12:44 -0700 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question In-Reply-To: <85700.50373.qm@web23007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: CM asks... > they are so obscure and are now being remastered. these are > the other ADUK ones on my wantlist: > > Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (CD) This was the last one I think...from what I remember, not so interesting. I assume it is still Anderson at the helm, but IIRC Weinzierl didn't even participate on this one...another bunch of friends and relations of the Demi Monde studio family...I think Gavin Griffiths, early Ozric member, appears on this one. Maybe Joie too? And a bunch of "Who?" > Amon D??l (UK) - Meeting With Menmachines (CD) I don't have the CD, but I used to own the vinyl, which had a similar title (longer...MWM Inglorious Heroes of the Past or something). With Ms. Waring on vocals...mostly lousy poppy tunes with her, um, interesting voice. I mean, she's pretty annoying. > Amon D??l (UK) - Experimente (CD) This is a pre-1970 Amon Duul (I) release I believe...not an AD-UK one at all. Correct me if I am wrong. > Amon D??l (UK) - Airs On A Shoestring (CD) This is another Anderson/Weinzierl/Evans/Waring CD, but mostly a compilation of stuff from HMP and MWM. But it contains the cool long improv track from HMP ("something...two pints of blood" or whatever it is) with Waring only doing "space whisper" (so she's not so annoying here), and a similar long improv piece (quite interesting) "Olaf, where's my $20,000?" which I think is exclusive to this release. So I would recommend finding just this one, and forgetting these other three AD-UK CDs (well, assuming you already have the Calvert one). These two tracks are the only interesting things they did with Waring IMHO...mostly because she just kept her mouth shut for the most part. :) Grakkl (Bornich, Rheinland-Pfalz) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 31 17:23:40 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:23:40 -0500 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question In-Reply-To: <105572.29054.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 7/31/08, Keith Henderson wrote: > > CM asks... > > they are so obscure and are now being remastered. these are > > the other ADUK ones on my wantlist: > > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (CD) > This was the last one I think...from what I remember, not so > interesting. I assume it is still Anderson at the helm, but IIRC Weinzierl > didn't even participate on this one...another bunch of friends and relations > of the Demi Monde studio family...I think Gavin Griffiths, early Ozric > member, appears on this one. Maybe Joie too? And a bunch of "Who?" *I am confused here, are we talking Die Losung, or Fool Moon.....both of which are AWESOME in the extreme!!!!* *I would argue that just the track "Mustaffa Vole" from Fool Moon is more valuable than the entire remnant catalog (that's catalogue to you British) of both incarnations of the band(s)* > Amon D??l (UK) - Meeting With Menmachines (CD) > I don't have the CD, but I used to own the vinyl, which had a similar title > (longer...MWM Inglorious Heroes of the Past or something). With Ms. Waring > on vocals...mostly lousy poppy tunes with her, um, interesting voice. I > mean, she's pretty annoying. > > Amon D??l (UK) - Experimente (CD) > This is a pre-1970 Amon Duul (I) release I believe...not an AD-UK one at > all. Correct me if I am wrong. > > Amon D??l (UK) - Airs On A Shoestring (CD) > This is another Anderson/Weinzierl/Evans/Waring CD, but mostly a > compilation of stuff from HMP and MWM. But it contains the cool long improv > track from HMP ("something...two pints of blood" or whatever it is) with > Waring only doing "space whisper" (so she's not so annoying here), and a > similar long improv piece (quite interesting) "Olaf, where's my $20,000?" > which I think is exclusive to this release. So I would recommend finding > just this one, and forgetting these other three AD-UK CDs (well, assuming > you already have the Calvert one). These two tracks are the only > interesting things they did with Waring IMHO...mostly because she just kept > her mouth shut for the most part. :) > Grakkl (Bornich, Rheinland-Pfalz) *Tracklist for Airs On A Shoestring CD* *1) Hymn For The Hardcore* *2) Pioneer* *3) One Moments Anger Is Two Pints Of Blood (confirms what Keith said)* *4) Marcus Leid* *5) Olaf (where's my $20.000) * *I suppose you want me to play it too??? any more digging??? eh?? eh>>>* *Christian where's my______________????* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 31 17:45:47 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:45:47 -0500 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807311423r326f7282t7476d06d0a12a96a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: OK, so I get a bit carried away, and I don't want to pit the original makers of such greatness as Wolf City against the Ozrics, but anyway, I am POSITIVE Christian will LOVE Fool Moon, and the players are: andy: percussion chambers: vocal, perc gavin: guitars jane: vocals, shenai john: drums, madness joie: synths, samples kay: bass vocals On 7/31/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 7/31/08, Keith Henderson wrote: >> >> CM asks... >> > they are so obscure and are now being remastered. these are >> > the other ADUK ones on my wantlist: >> > >> > Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (CD) >> This was the last one I think...from what I remember, not so >> interesting. I assume it is still Anderson at the helm, but IIRC Weinzierl >> didn't even participate on this one...another bunch of friends and relations >> of the Demi Monde studio family...I think Gavin Griffiths, early Ozric >> member, appears on this one. Maybe Joie too? And a bunch of "Who?" > > > *I am confused here, are we talking Die Losung, or Fool Moon.....both of > which are AWESOME in the extreme!!!!* > *I would argue that just the track "Mustaffa Vole" from Fool Moon is more > valuable than the entire remnant catalog (that's catalogue to you British) > of both incarnations of the band(s)* > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Meeting With Menmachines (CD) >> I don't have the CD, but I used to own the vinyl, which had a similar >> title (longer...MWM Inglorious Heroes of the Past or something). With Ms. >> Waring on vocals...mostly lousy poppy tunes with her, um, interesting >> voice. I mean, she's pretty annoying. >> > Amon D??l (UK) - Experimente (CD) >> This is a pre-1970 Amon Duul (I) release I believe...not an AD-UK one at >> all. Correct me if I am wrong. >> > Amon D??l (UK) - Airs On A Shoestring (CD) >> This is another Anderson/Weinzierl/Evans/Waring CD, but mostly a >> compilation of stuff from HMP and MWM. But it contains the cool long improv >> track from HMP ("something...two pints of blood" or whatever it is) with >> Waring only doing "space whisper" (so she's not so annoying here), and a >> similar long improv piece (quite interesting) "Olaf, where's my $20,000?" >> which I think is exclusive to this release. So I would recommend finding >> just this one, and forgetting these other three AD-UK CDs (well, assuming >> you already have the Calvert one). These two tracks are the only >> interesting things they did with Waring IMHO...mostly because she just kept >> her mouth shut for the most part. :) >> Grakkl (Bornich, Rheinland-Pfalz) > > > *Tracklist for Airs On A Shoestring CD* > *1) Hymn For The Hardcore* > *2) Pioneer* > *3) One Moments Anger Is Two Pints Of Blood (confirms what Keith said)* > *4) Marcus Leid* > *5) Olaf (where's my $20.000) * > *I suppose you want me to play it too??? any more digging??? eh?? eh>>>* > *Christian where's my______________????* > > > > From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Thu Jul 31 19:20:35 2008 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:20:35 -0400 Subject: (SPAM) HAWKWIND VINYL SINGLES GALORE ON EBAY In-Reply-To: <8CAC15DF0F85EAF-1420-8F7@webmail-da08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Eli Please in the future do not use the word S**M in your emails. Long ago both lists established that this sort of announcement was acceptable. By putting that word in, you just assure that some people will never get your emails Just put OT: etc. Thanks in advance Mike On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:51 PM, wrote: > Hi. My usual apologies for sending SPAM. But...I've just listed about 25 > Hawkwind and related (Brock, Calvert, Moorcock) 7 inch vinyl singles > (remember those) up on Ebay with nice picture sleeves on most of them. I > made the insane move of putting them each up for a $5 minimum, so don't let > me down now...bid those babies up. Some of these are quite rare. Thanks for > any interest. Yours, Eli >