From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Feb 1 04:41:21 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:41:21 +0000 Subject: HW: (off) Vote for Litmus and help spacerock! In-Reply-To: <17d80c610801282009y216c51f4i33170bc6688e6ef9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, As you may know, Litmus have been nominated for the Independent Music Awards 2008. From February 1st to March 31st you can vote for us by going to: http://www.indyawards.co.uk/2008/artist_voting.php?artists=L and clicking on the "VOTE" button under our entry. It is strictly one vote per e-mail address. This could help raise the profile of spacerock! Best wishes, Litmus From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Feb 1 09:39:58 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:39:58 -0000 Subject: (off) Vote for Litmus and help spacerock! Message-ID: ok i voted...don't know why...i don't think that any of them are even forty yet! i though the lower age limit for spacerock was fifty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: HW: (off) Vote for Litmus and help spacerock! > Hi all, > As you may know, Litmus have been nominated for the Independent Music > Awards 2008. From February 1st to March 31st you can vote for us by > going to: http://www.indyawards.co.uk/2008/artist_voting.php?artists=L > and clicking on the "VOTE" button under our entry. It is strictly one > vote per e-mail address. > This could help raise the profile of spacerock! > Best wishes, > Litmus > From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Feb 1 11:03:18 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:03:18 +0000 Subject: (off) Vote for Litmus and help spacerock! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: They just look amazingly youthful; Fiddler is actually 87 next week. trev wrote: ok i voted...don't know why...i don't think that any of them are even forty yet! i though the lower age limit for spacerock was fifty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: HW: (off) Vote for Litmus and help spacerock! > Hi all, > As you may know, Litmus have been nominated for the Independent Music > Awards 2008. From February 1st to March 31st you can vote for us by > going to: http://www.indyawards.co.uk/2008/artist_voting.php?artists=L > and clicking on the "VOTE" button under our entry. It is strictly one > vote per e-mail address. > This could help raise the profile of spacerock! > Best wishes, > Litmus > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Feb 1 11:17:12 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:17:12 -0500 Subject: (off) Vote for Litmus and help spacerock! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good one Trev, I needed a laugh. I guess it's like The Who say, "The Kids Are All Right." Your friend, Mary P.S. Chris asked me to tell you he sends his best wishes. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Feb 1 16:28:15 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:28:15 -0500 Subject: Last minute Philly show: OEBs w/Stewkey of NAZZ 2/5/08 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I wish I were closer, I'm sure it'll be a great show, have a great time. Kaduflyer From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 2 03:48:46 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 08:48:46 +0000 Subject: Freak Emporium RIP Message-ID: Not sure if this has been mentioned but the Freak Emporium has closed. One less source for those oddball and classic psych CD's. Notice on their website expalins why. Seems Jersey is to blame http://www.freakemporium.com/ Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 2 11:01:04 2008 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Dave Hall) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 17:01:04 +0100 Subject: Back on the list Message-ID: Hi After a spell off the list - server problems etc, I'm back on. Without wading through the digests can anyone enlighten me as to Alan's departure and the wellbeing of Tim and Huw, and importantly - how were the recent gigs? Dave From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 2 11:30:32 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:30:32 -0600 Subject: Back on the list In-Reply-To: <10411835.664851201968064088.JavaMail.www@wwinf3101> Message-ID: i'm not the right person, but I'm taking a shot, since I am appaled this forum doesn't have 999 attendees as it rightfully should I left for 5+ years myself, forced off anyway 1) Alan's departure is unsolved unless you know the right people and even then it's hazy, but as I've spoken of Ade Shaw, he (Alan) can "hold his own" for sure, however let's hope due to his excellentness that things resolve and he'll at least do pop-ups with the wind 2) From what I've read Tim and Huw are great, and I have spoken to Marion, this time with muscian/DJ Dave Adam's help Tim has been doing shows with Hawkwind, but so far he rebels doing Birdongs in the set Jon Jarrett said the recent gigs were such he wants more overall: *GOOD* Hawkwind speak of ditching much of the computerized stuff for the moment, and that they are gearing up to kick-ass (at least as I interprit things) *WELCOME BACK, STAY* On 2/2/08, Dave Hall wrote: > > Hi > After a spell off the list - server problems etc, I'm back on. Without > wading through the digests can anyone enlighten me as to Alan's departure > and the wellbeing of Tim and Huw, and importantly - how were the recent > gigs? > > Dave > From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 3 08:00:29 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:00:29 EST Subject: Back on the list / Robert Calvert Message-ID: Dave, You may have missed this then: _http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/calvert.html_ (http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/calvert.html) a link to a complete show of Robert Calvert & The Maximum Effect at the Carlisle Stars & Stripes on November 3 1986. It was posted a while back (can't remember who by, but it was someone in the band on the night). I've just got around to converting it to WAV and am listening to it now on CD. It's a great recording so goand check it out. Does anyone know of any other good HW related material available out there on the net for download? Steve. _StevePXR5 at aol.com_ (mailto:StevePXR5 at aol.com) In a message dated 02/02/2008 16:12:59 GMT Standard Time, dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: Hi After a spell off the list - server problems etc, I'm back on. Without wading through the digests can anyone enlighten me as to Alan's departure and the wellbeing of Tim and Huw, and importantly - how were the recent gigs? Dave From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 3 08:08:35 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:08:35 EST Subject: Back on the list Message-ID: As for Tim and Huw... Tim was on fine form on the recent gigs and may (?) be back with the Hawks for their March dates. And Huw? I'm glad to say that when I saw him at Hawkfest he was much better health than he had been. Still likes a drink - in fact we were working our way through some good ales in my tent during Hawkwinds set at Hawkfest last year - but who doesn't. I know I do! What a night - what a character. Steve. In a message dated 02/02/2008 16:12:59 GMT Standard Time, dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: Hi After a spell off the list - server problems etc, I'm back on. Without wading through the digests can anyone enlighten me as to Alan's departure and the wellbeing of Tim and Huw, and importantly - how were the recent gigs? Dave From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Sun Feb 3 08:59:23 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:59:23 +0100 Subject: HW: State of things.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Dave I wish we knew more.. There has been no official word about the circumstances of Alan leaving. Seems he just wanted to get on with a lot more music that Hawkwind can allow him to. I don't think and there have not been any rumors of bad blood between him and dave or anything nasty happening.. As for Tim and Huw, people seem to be very satisified with the recent HW gigs with Tim. Lets hope they are recording some new stuff now! As for Huw, saw him at the space rock spectacular in Drayton in October and he was dreadful. I think he needs to give up the electric guitar. He simply can't play anymore.. Terrible.. Harvey was there and played killer stuff but was quite dismayed with Huw.... Hope for a good 2008 for us Hawkwind fans.. scott From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Sun Feb 3 09:07:58 2008 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (David Adams) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:07:58 -0000 Subject: Sunday Space Rock tonight Message-ID: On Sunday Space Rock tonight, www.banburymusicradio.com 20:00 GMT Music from: Harvey Bainbridge, Xoo, Tangerine Dream, Milo Black, Astro Al, Zone Six, Bubble Dubble and much more. In the studio my guest will be Godiva X So please tune in this and every sunday for Sunday Space Rock on BMR From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 3 10:23:14 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:23:14 -0600 Subject: HW: State of things.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Scott, been hoping you were just tied up with your own band, asked about you lately BUT please don't say/tell me that about Huw is it just a matter maybe of ALE after the gig vs before??? I saved him from the backlash of the Hawkwestra and I bet I could do it again example: while I couldn't resist the the neighbors needed to hear parts of the Black Sword CD, it was when Huw started doing his take on "The War I survived" that I almost felt like living another day mike On 2/3/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > Hello Dave > > I wish we knew more.. There has been no official word about the > circumstances of Alan leaving. Seems he just wanted to get on with a lot > more music that Hawkwind can allow him to. I don't think and there have > not been any rumors of bad blood between him and dave or anything nasty > happening.. > > As for Tim and Huw, people seem to be very satisified with the recent HW > gigs with Tim. Lets hope they are recording some new stuff now! As for > Huw, saw him at the space rock spectacular in Drayton in October and he > was dreadful. I think he needs to give up the electric guitar. He simply > can't play anymore.. Terrible.. Harvey was there and played killer stuff > but was quite dismayed with Huw.... > > Hope for a good 2008 for us Hawkwind fans.. > > scott > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 3 10:35:44 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:35:44 -0600 Subject: HW (just my insanity, could be OFF) Message-ID: *I need someone to dig up studio verions of "Time For Sale" (or at least CLEAR unreleased versions), "Born to Go", "Opa-Loka", and whatever else and do a CHAOTIC deal with the right people to produce 45 singles virtually undetectable as not having been part of the original catalog* *ALSO. amd more "Feasible", in addition to, give us a sinlges deluxe miniature CD boxed set the way the Motorhead output-machine did* *GOD I wish I still had that* *maybe add "Orgone Occumulater" too, since I can't boast a 45 edit anymore until BASTARD hooks me up, if ever//////* *Mike* *ahh what the heck, lets have some decades overdue "Church Of Hawkwind" 45's too* *ps-most people on the list know I'm (OFF)* *I only made one real mistake yesterday speaking of Blake's "Birdsongs", but if you really think about it, is it really THAT insane for a Hawkwind show???* From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Feb 3 10:59:25 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:59:25 -0500 Subject: HW: State of things.. In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802030723q10cc81e0m9366a68a23f4ccb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That is a shame if that's the case with Huw, and Scott, I do trust your ear, but it's stuff none of us like to hear. Maybe if he goes off the sauce, he'll shine again, he's so fine, when he's right on. Mary From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Feb 3 11:00:28 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:00:28 -0500 Subject: HW (just my insanity, could be OFF) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802030735q5111a24eg455ba86f45db9a6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mike, we were just talking about the other day, weren't we? It is a great idea. Mary From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 3 11:09:02 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:09:02 -0600 Subject: HW: State of things.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and I don't believe he uses a guitar or vox (is that that silly Frampton-type tube), to do his vocals On 2/3/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > That is a shame if that's the case with Huw, and Scott, I do trust your > ear, > but it's stuff none of us like to hear. Maybe if he goes off the sauce, > he'll shine again, he's so fine, when he's right on. > > Mary > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 3 11:23:09 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:23:09 -0600 Subject: (OFF OFF OFF)Re: HW (just my insanity, could be OFF) Message-ID: *yes I believe you and I can take documented credit on that one!!! is your face on??? what about Vicki?? is her coffee served??? (hey wait a minute, isn't ALL the credit really MINE??)* **let' see, how to redeem this email, uh, uh, uh I need somebody to trade me a UK yellow label Mt Grill *WITH the USA 4-track promo, both in at least NM condition, and while you're at it, somebody fix me up with just ONE of the 3 STOCK USA Psi-Power/Death Traps to go with my sealed LP that will disappear into Dallas never to be heard from again.......(sigh)* On 2/3/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > Mike, we were just talking about the other day, weren't we? It is a great > idea. > > Mary > From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 3 15:36:31 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:36:31 EST Subject: Sunday Space Rock tonight Message-ID: Gawd, this is terrible!!! I've told so many people about this show - how it rocks. Unbelievable!!! In a message dated 02/03/2008 14:09:23 GMT Standard Time, dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM writes: On Sunday Space Rock tonight, www.banburymusicradio.com 20:00 GMT Music from: Harvey Bainbridge, Xoo, Tangerine Dream, Milo Black, Astro Al, Zone Six, Bubble Dubble and much more. In the studio my guest will be Godiva X From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 3 16:40:12 2008 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (EliPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:40:12 EST Subject: (Off) SPAM- Hawkwind Hard To Find CDs on Ebay (vinyl to follow) Message-ID: Hi. Sorry for the intrusion. I will be putting up an Alan Davey Elf and the Hawk Ep vinyl set with inserts in mint later today on Ebay. Today I listed these CD's on Ebay. My Ebay ID is EliHawkfan (of course) The Business Trip (jewel box) Chronicles of the Black Sword on Dojo Live '79 on Castle Best of Friends and Relations Zone/Do Not Panic Double CD set Electric Tepee remaster Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 (acid Daze comp-new sealed) California Brainstorm US edition Dave Brock Strange Trips and Pipe Dreams jewel box Live Chronicles on Castle Lots of vinyl 45's to follow this week. Thanks for any interst. Sorry for the SPAM ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002548) From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Feb 3 19:36:14 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:36:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Electronic Cottage and Drool Trough Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com FEBRUARY 3, 2008: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've just uploaded new shows from The Electronic Cottage (show #28), and Drool Trough Radio (show #74). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html The Electronic Cottage (show #28) The Electronic Cottage was created to give an audio spotlight to the ambient, cosmic space, and general electronic sound explorations we receive at Aural Innovations. The show is named after Hal McGee's zine of the same name that published in the late 1980's and early 1990's. Dave Fuglewicz - "Happy Birthday Hal" (from Tapegerm.com download) Hal McGee - "itchinmytwitchglitch" (from Tapegerm.com download) Second Sight - "Stronger Hearts" (from Stronger When We're Together) Graffiti 61 - Track 5 (from Astropop) PXL - "Every Which Way But Out" (from PXL) Dave Fuglewicz - "Reflections" (from Tapegerm.com download) Mooch - "Orbital Traffic" (from Golden Ear Machine) Ascanio Borga - "Floating Sequence" (from Peripheral Vision) Harold Nono - "A Shining Space" (from To The River Lounge) CNTR - "Laika - Part Two" (from Northern Deviation) Shakuhachi - "Chasing Shadows" (From Virtual and Unreal) Mystic Tech - "Lullaby for Tomorrow" (from Meta) Lensflare - "Wurm Equinoxe Twilight" (from Dawn of a New Era) Cane 141 - track 2 (from Lost At Sea) Mental Anguish - "Perfect Poison Mystery Drop Yard" (from Tapgerm.com download) Drool Trough Radio (show #74) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. Human Flesh - "Possession" (from Penumbra) Human Flesh - "I Love You, You Know." (from Penumbra) Ceramic Hobs - "Stick The Wal On Terror Up Your Arse" (from Al Al Who) Howl in the Typewriter - track 1 (from Grand Theft Audio) The Haddenham One - "40 Miles of Dickson Road" (from Godspunk Vol. 4 compilation) Raz Mesinai's Badawi - "Badawi vs. Juakali: Crows" (from Unit of Resistance) Life In A Blender - "Kissusness" (from The Heart is a Small Balloon) Miss Massive Snowflake - "Swing of Hair" (from Queen's Headache) Rick Skol - "Neophyte" (from Neophyte) The Toilet Boys - "Gods - Monsters" (from Sex Music) Feverdreams - "Blue Eyes" (from Words and Music) PerkinsWood - "Icicle Sunrise" (from Roll) Deathsquad - "The Calm Armageddon" (from On Windscale Pier) Deathsquad - "Ballistic (Theme from Crustacian Pt Two) (from The Crustacean Sessions) The Bird Names - "Unibomba!" (from Wooden Lake/Sexual Diner) Arol - "Soul Crying in the Night" (from A Soul Crying in the Night) Wounded Meadow - "Railroad Girl" (from Railroad Girl) The Magnet School - "The Ghost of Duane" (from Tonight We Drink. Tomorrow We Battle The Evil At Hand) Oddisea - "The Enlightenment" (from Being and Feeling) Bronze Fawn - "Thumb Puppet Wizard" (from Lumber) Adam Gilbert - "Only One" (from Fishing for Water) http://Aural-Innovations.com From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Mon Feb 4 07:47:23 2008 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (David Adams) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:47:23 -0000 Subject: Playlist Space Rock Feb. 3rd Message-ID: Mellow Yellow-1st Band From Outer Space, Spooky-Bubble Dubble, Love Love On A Real Train-Tangerine Dream, Trip-Godiva X, Under The Moon-Godiva X, Retro Party-Godiva X, The Tower Called Heaven-Milo Black, Flying-The Beatles, Space Station No. 5-Montrose, The Tower called Heaven-Milo Black,Rockhead To Eden-Zone 6, Ambiente Differente-Andrea, Acid House Of Dreams-Harvey Bainbridge, Grand Theft Auto-Theme, On My Mind-The Morning After, Los Siete-Domes Of Silence, Lond Time-Astro Al, The Desert A Rose-Some Sound, Brain Tattoo-Xoo, Twilight Pilot-Ohead, 2009-35007 My studio guest was Godiva X Thanks to everone that tuned in, last nights listener stats were excellent, please continue to tune in every Sunday. The show is repeated Wednesdays at 10:00 GMT on BMR From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Feb 4 11:07:28 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:07:28 +0000 Subject: Last minute Philly show: OEBs w/Stewkey of NAZZ TOMORROW!! Message-ID: Last minute Philly show: OEBs w/Stewkey of NAZZ 2/5/08 Body: 02/05/2008 09:00 PM - The M Room ( Manhattan Room ) 15 West Girard Ave ( between Front st & Frankford Ave ) Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19123 US Cost:$5.00 Venue Phone (215 ) 739-5577Very special acoustic performance with guest vocalist and Philly music celeb ?Stewkey? of the Nazz. The One Eyed Bishops will be headlining this show. Support by Cait Youth ( www.myspace.com/CaitYouth ). Possibly one more act to be added. Visit the ?M? Room online at: www.themanhattanroom.com or www.myspace.com/TheManhattanRoom _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Feb 4 14:48:13 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:48:13 +0000 Subject: Headsmith shows: opening for Michael Shenker ( UFO ) & MAN Message-ID: Headsmith to support Michael Shenker ( UFO ), and MAN I hope some of you UK folks will get a chance to check out Phil Smith's 'Headsmith' band. Phil played lead guitar for The One Eyed Bishops when we performed in The UK in 2002, 2003 & 2004. Phil worked with Rod Goodway of Magic Muscle in his 'Ethereal Counterbalance', project as well many other great bands..see all their dates at: http://www.myspace.com/headsmithband Headsmith supports Michael SchenkerHeadsmith is supporting Michael Schenker and Friends on 17th February 2008 at the amazing Thekla venue in Bristol. Tickets are just ?15.Michael Schenker is not to be missed as he a brilliant guitarist. Schenker played with UFO for eight years, and the musicians he has played with since reads like a whos who of rock. Get there early and catch the Headsmith warmup set which starts at 8pm Another upcoming date will soon find them performing with Wales' very own MAN... Peace, Mike Burro PS: Headsmith is seeking good supporting slots in The UK contact HeadsmithUK at yahoo.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Feb 5 10:04:49 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:04:49 -0600 Subject: HW Barney Bubbles/Dave Brock speaker cabinets Message-ID: here is some rather interesting stuff for auction http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hawkwind-Custom-Speakers-used-by-Dave-Brock_W0QQitemZ290204242683QQihZ019QQcategoryZ1288QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I just was discussing Colin yesterday in an unrelated forum that sprung from Funky Paul Olson, where I once found a photo of Colin playing guitar on his site isn't it time for that book, regardless of his unsigned work mystery??? From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Feb 5 11:16:51 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:16:51 +0000 Subject: OEBs w/Stewkey of NAZZ in Philly TONIGHT!! ( also Dtewkey interview on RundgrenRadio ) Message-ID: Last minute Philly show: OEBs w/Stewkey of NAZZ TONIGHT!!Body: Last minute Philly show: OEBs w/Stewkey of NAZZ 2/5/08 Body: 02/05/2008 09:00 PM - The M Room ( Manhattan Room ) 15 West Girard Ave ( between Front st & Frankford Ave ) Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19123 US Cost:$5.00 Venue Phone (215 ) 739-5577 Very special acoustic performance with guest vocalist and Philly music celeb ?Stewkey? of the Nazz. The One Eyed Bishops will be headlining this show. Support by Cait Youth ( www.myspace.com/CaitYouth ). Possibly one more act to be added. Visit the ?M? Room online at: www.themanhattanroom.com or www.myspace.com/TheManhattanRoom Here the new Stewkey interview on www.RundgrenRadio.com Stewkey discusses Nazz today and yesterday as well as his many other projects, like 'pre-Cheap Trick' band Sick Man of Europe which he fronted alongside Rick Neilsen, Bun E. Carlos, & Tom Peterson ( Tom calls in to catch up ), & Fuse. Also his work with Vince Martel ( Vanilla Fudge ), Moogy Klingman ( Utopia ), Mike Burro ( One Eyed Bishops ) and many more!!! _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 5 15:49:24 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:49:24 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Cover Versions Part 2 In-Reply-To: <200801141423.m0EEN1Yu014061@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 02:23:01PM +0000, M Holmes typed out: > Steve Freight writes: > > Just a thought but what classic (or not so classic) song do you think > > Hawkwind could cover well? > > The Doctor Who theme? Especially with Tim on theremin. But I think Alan is as likely to do this and might do it as well. Still, it'd be great to hear a section of it dropped into a jam like they still do with `Paranoia'. > I'd love to hear a Hawkwind version of "Diesel Spaceship" or "Guidance > is Internal" by Ship of Fools. I'm not sure there's really enough of a song in the former to sustain a Hawkwind performance, not without words. The latter'd be great though, I can just hear Dr Brock's guitar ripping through that one. I may have to listen to that now. Once the Pink Fairies finish maybe, yours, Jon ObCD: Pink Fairies - _What A Bunch of Sweeties_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Feb 7 12:49:26 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:49:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer Message-ID: Hello folks Well, I think it is time to start a serious trading offer. Since the trading ban is officially stopped I can offer you the following show: Hawkwind, Torquay - Princess Theatre, 20.11.2001 intro / lighthouse / levitation / spiral galaxy / moonglum / brainbox pollution / wind of change / angels of death / watcher / motorway city / hurry on sundown / hassan i sahba / space is their / hassan i sahba / assault & battery / golden void / ejection The recording quality is EXCELLENT (no soundboard) and it is about 105 minutes long Most of you will know that it was the only show of the Autumn 2001 tour where Jez Huggett played with them. Captain Black was with them on this gig as well !! A great gig from a great tour with great musicians I am sure that NOONE has got this recording. Awaiting your offers.... cheers Bernhard From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Feb 7 14:59:54 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:59:54 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops w/Stewkey of NAZZ +Backyard 1 nite of great music!!! Message-ID: One Eyed Bishops w/ Backyard 1 nite of great music!!! 02/15/2008 08:00 PM - Barrington Coffeehouse 131 Clements Bridge Rd. Barrington, New Jersey 08007 Description:special acoustic show with guest vocalist ?Stewkey? of NAZZ. Check out: http://www.Barringtoncoffeehouse.comBackyard is a great band from South Jersey. They play a nice mixture of classic music..check them out at: http://www.myspace.com/backyardmusic OEB lineup at this time: Mike Burro : guitars/vocalsStewkey ( of NAZZ ) vocalssee: http://www.myspace.com/Nazzfeaturingstewkey _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From albert at CELLSUM.COM Thu Feb 7 20:09:31 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 20:09:31 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this Thursday Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and Adrian Romero. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 7 23:03:14 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:03:14 -0600 Subject: Shameless as long as it gets POSTED Message-ID: Albert, you need no modesty- this IS your BOC forum (however frought with what may be at times annoying HW addicted freaks of high standing, and I doubt I am wrong that anything you said on here, wouldn't be anticipated, wanted, etc no matter what the musical assembly of the minute would be peace mike c On 2/7/08, Albert Bouchard wrote: > > In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers > should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this Thursday > Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is > 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. > > The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft > White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and > Adrian Romero. From tjackson at SYR.EDU Fri Feb 8 08:46:39 2008 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:46:39 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: A Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Albert Bouchard Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:10 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Shameless In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this Thursday Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and Adrian Romero. Whoa! Time out here. Do you think you can drop a bomb like this with no explanation? Details, sir! I take it this project will resurrect old SWU tunes, or is it new tunes? Please tell us what's up! From albert at CELLSUM.COM Fri Feb 8 09:45:17 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:45:17 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The plan is to resurrect some old SWUB tunes but also to do some new stuff. Right now we're just doing one SWUB tune but we have a couple more we're planning on doing. We're going to Paris in March to open for the Animals and we are only gong to have a half hour to play so we won't get an opportunity to stretch out until some dates later in the year. We recorded a song for the M?torhead tribute album (a wild take on "Back At The Funny Farm") which should also be out in March. We're also doing some BOC chestnuts so people can hear how BOC might have sounded if Les hadn't left the group in 1969. We have a myspace page www.myspace/nderbelly which should have some pix and audio clips soon. Al On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > ] On Behalf Of Albert Bouchard > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:10 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Shameless > > In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers > should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this > Thursday Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The > address is > 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. > > The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft > White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and > Adrian Romero. > > > Whoa! Time out here. Do you think you can drop a bomb > like this with no explanation? Details, sir! I take > it this project will resurrect old SWU tunes, or is it > new tunes? Please tell us what's up! > From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Fri Feb 8 15:59:30 2008 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 04:59:30 +0800 Subject: HW: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer Message-ID: Why not upload it to dimeadozen.org - then we can all share the love... > Hello folks > > Well, I think it is time to start a serious trading offer. > Since the trading ban is officially stopped I can offer you the following > show: > > > Hawkwind, Torquay - Princess Theatre, 20.11.2001 > > intro / lighthouse / levitation / spiral galaxy / moonglum / brainbox > pollution / wind of change > / angels of death / watcher / motorway city / hurry on sundown / hassan i > sahba / > space is their / hassan i sahba / assault & battery / golden void / ejection > > > The recording quality is EXCELLENT (no soundboard) and it is about 105 > minutes long > > Most of you will know that it was the only show of the Autumn 2001 tour > where Jez Huggett played with them. > Captain Black was with them on this gig as well !! > > A great gig from a great tour with great musicians > > > I am sure that NOONE has got this recording. > > > > Awaiting your offers.... > > > > cheers > Bernhard -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com Powered by Outblaze From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Fri Feb 8 16:06:32 2008 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (David Adams) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:06:32 -0000 Subject: Sunday Space Rock Cyndee Special Message-ID: This Sunday 20:00 GMT,Space Rock violinist Cyndee Lee Rule will be calling in live from Philadelphia. Cyndee appears on many albums by noted Space Rock bands and musicians and also on her own recordings. She has played live with many of the genres top people, such as Harvey Bainbridge. I will be playing tunes from many of the musical projects Cyndees Viper violin is featured on. Also on the show music from:Hawkwind, Humanoid, Absinth House, Omnia Opera, Leviathan and more Be sure to tune in this and every Sunday on www.banburymusicrad io.com From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 8 16:13:48 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:13:48 EST Subject: Sunday Space Rock Cyndee Special Message-ID: Remind us again nearer the time, lest we forget :-) Steve. In a message dated 02/08/2008 21:07:26 GMT Standard Time, dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM writes: Be sure to tune in this and every Sunday on www.banburymusicrad io.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Feb 8 22:02:51 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:02:51 -0000 Subject: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer Message-ID: well thank goodness the trading ban has stopped...whew i can now officialy offer six pairs of judge trev's soiled underpants at the bargain price of ?15 each (plus post and packing) send cheque to 34a upper lewes road brighton east sussex bn2 3fh cheques payable to real festival music p&p uk ?1 europe ?1.50 rest of world ?2 mike coleman forced me to say this by means of invading my dreams without permission jt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Visionary Head" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:59 PM Subject: HW: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer Why not upload it to dimeadozen.org - then we can all share the love... > Hello folks > > Well, I think it is time to start a serious trading offer. > Since the trading ban is officially stopped I can offer you the following > show: > > > Hawkwind, Torquay - Princess Theatre, 20.11.2001 > > intro / lighthouse / levitation / spiral galaxy / moonglum / brainbox > pollution / wind of change > / angels of death / watcher / motorway city / hurry on sundown / hassan i > sahba / > space is their / hassan i sahba / assault & battery / golden void / > ejection > > > The recording quality is EXCELLENT (no soundboard) and it is about 105 > minutes long > > Most of you will know that it was the only show of the Autumn 2001 tour > where Jez Huggett played with them. > Captain Black was with them on this gig as well !! > > A great gig from a great tour with great musicians > > > I am sure that NOONE has got this recording. > > > > Awaiting your offers.... > > > > cheers > Bernhard -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com Powered by Outblaze From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 8 22:24:02 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:24:02 -0600 Subject: Trading ban is stopped -> but that is boring to the semi-coded message here seen(t) to Trev Message-ID: *Trev, do want the pink square?* *seriously* *email me if you do* *and yes, I have semi-connected, but not neccessarily motives per se* (I'm afraid to mail him direct for a few darker days), maybe until Dave plays more on the Banbury Broadshift-cast BTW, throw some NEU 1 on would ya, and see if Tommy Grenas will fly in rather than go across suspect inter-sea lines godhopefully not using a cell-phone, if that is possible : ) back to the Mind Journey whose recording level is a little higher octane, still disallowed however by not going up where it could/should?? late : ) Trev's Victim, and I don't mean the noisy records I ritualed in dead night's impenatrable blackness and quite dangerous storm-activity as well, LOTS of times...... On 2/8/08, trev wrote: > > well thank goodness the trading ban has stopped...whew > i can now officialy offer six pairs of judge trev's soiled underpants at > the > bargain price of ?15 each (plus post and packing) > > send cheque to > 34a upper lewes road > brighton > east sussex > bn2 3fh > > cheques payable to real festival music > > p&p uk ?1 > europe ?1.50 > rest of world ?2 > > mike coleman forced me to say this by means of invading my dreams without > permission > > jt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Visionary Head" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:59 PM > Subject: HW: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer > > > Why not upload it to dimeadozen.org - then we can all share the love... > > > Hello folks > > > > Well, I think it is time to start a serious trading offer. > > Since the trading ban is officially stopped I can offer you the > following > > show: > > > > > > Hawkwind, Torquay - Princess Theatre, 20.11.2001 > > > > intro / lighthouse / levitation / spiral galaxy / moonglum / brainbox > > pollution / wind of change > > / angels of death / watcher / motorway city / hurry on sundown / hassan > i > > sahba / > > space is their / hassan i sahba / assault & battery / golden void / > > ejection > > > > > > The recording quality is EXCELLENT (no soundboard) and it is about 105 > > minutes long > > > > Most of you will know that it was the only show of the Autumn 2001 tour > > where Jez Huggett played with them. > > Captain Black was with them on this gig as well !! > > > > A great gig from a great tour with great musicians > > > > > > I am sure that NOONE has got this recording. > > > > > > > > Awaiting your offers.... > > > > > > > > cheers > > Bernhard > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com > > Powered by Outblaze > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 9 06:48:46 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:48:46 +0000 Subject: HW: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer In-Reply-To: <20080208205930.C84F3233A4@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Hi, I'm getting a test page on your link - am I doing soemthing wrong? Steve On Feb 8, 2008 8:59 PM, Visionary Head wrote: > Why not upload it to dimeadozen.org - then we can all share the love... > > > Hello folks > > > > Well, I think it is time to start a serious trading offer. > > Since the trading ban is officially stopped I can offer you the > following > > show: > > > > > > Hawkwind, Torquay - Princess Theatre, 20.11.2001 > > > > intro / lighthouse / levitation / spiral galaxy / moonglum / brainbox > > pollution / wind of change > > / angels of death / watcher / motorway city / hurry on sundown / hassan > i > > sahba / > > space is their / hassan i sahba / assault & battery / golden void / > ejection > > > > > > The recording quality is EXCELLENT (no soundboard) and it is about 105 > > minutes long > > > > Most of you will know that it was the only show of the Autumn 2001 tour > > where Jez Huggett played with them. > > Captain Black was with them on this gig as well !! > > > > A great gig from a great tour with great musicians > > > > > > I am sure that NOONE has got this recording. > > > > > > > > Awaiting your offers.... > > > > > > > > cheers > > Bernhard > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com > > Powered by Outblaze > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK Sat Feb 9 07:09:15 2008 From: hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK (john-paul) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:09:15 -0000 Subject: HW: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer Message-ID: hi steve, heres the address, see if this works http://windwizard.110mb.com/ cheers, john-paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Freight" To: Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 11:48 AM Subject: Re: HW: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer > Hi, > > I'm getting a test page on your link - am I doing soemthing wrong? > > Steve > > On Feb 8, 2008 8:59 PM, Visionary Head wrote: > >> Why not upload it to dimeadozen.org - then we can all share the love... >> >> > Hello folks >> > >> > Well, I think it is time to start a serious trading offer. >> > Since the trading ban is officially stopped I can offer you the >> following >> > show: >> > >> > >> > Hawkwind, Torquay - Princess Theatre, 20.11.2001 >> > >> > intro / lighthouse / levitation / spiral galaxy / moonglum / brainbox >> > pollution / wind of change >> > / angels of death / watcher / motorway city / hurry on sundown / hassan >> i >> > sahba / >> > space is their / hassan i sahba / assault & battery / golden void / >> ejection >> > >> > >> > The recording quality is EXCELLENT (no soundboard) and it is about 105 >> > minutes long >> > >> > Most of you will know that it was the only show of the Autumn 2001 tour >> > where Jez Huggett played with them. >> > Captain Black was with them on this gig as well !! >> > >> > A great gig from a great tour with great musicians >> > >> > >> > I am sure that NOONE has got this recording. >> > >> > >> > >> > Awaiting your offers.... >> > >> > >> > >> > cheers >> > Bernhard >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com >> >> Powered by Outblaze >> > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Feb 9 08:17:11 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 08:17:11 -0500 Subject: Sunday Space Rock Cyndee Special In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve, How could you forget? haha Kaduflyer From grinningboy at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Feb 9 08:23:44 2008 From: grinningboy at NTLWORLD.COM (Charles the Grinning Boy) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:23:44 -0000 Subject: Shameless Message-ID: Paris - this side of the pond. Any chance of a UK date Albert? It's 3 years since tBS played the 100 club (3 years, where did the time go?) .......Charlie (CtGB) ----- Original Message ----- From: "albert bouchard" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Shameless The plan is to resurrect some old SWUB tunes but also to do some new stuff. Right now we're just doing one SWUB tune but we have a couple more we're planning on doing. We're going to Paris in March to open for the Animals and we are only gong to have a half hour to play so we won't get an opportunity to stretch out until some dates later in the year. We recorded a song for the M?torhead tribute album (a wild take on "Back At The Funny Farm") which should also be out in March. We're also doing some BOC chestnuts so people can hear how BOC might have sounded if Les hadn't left the group in 1969. We have a myspace page www.myspace/nderbelly which should have some pix and audio clips soon. Al On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET ] > On Behalf Of Albert Bouchard > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:10 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Shameless > > In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers should > know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this Thursday Feb. 14, > Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is > 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. > > The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft White > Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and Adrian > Romero. > > > Whoa! Time out here. Do you think you can drop a bomb > like this with no explanation? Details, sir! I take > it this project will resurrect old SWU tunes, or is it > new tunes? Please tell us what's up! > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Feb 9 11:27:39 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:27:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows Message-ID: Hello folks Here is a message to make some things clear and solve the confusion I may have caused in my mail 2 days ago - I am in posession of about 780 Hawkwind live recordings on CDR and/or tape - I am colleceting recordings for about 20 years - I will NEVER act against Hawkwinds trading rules !!!! - In the past, now and in the future I will share my collection with every serious Hawkwind fan/collector - In the past I have traded 1 recording in return for another show - I will continue this sort of trading !! - Some fans I am trading with are doing trees from the shows they have received from me. No problem for me ! - In the past I have digged out LOTS of recordings that were not available to other fans. - Most of them are available to other fans now The reason for my mail 2 days ago was to wake up some "sleeping" Hawkwind-Live-Recordings-Owners. Of course I will trade the Torquay 2001 show for free in the next couple of weeks. But perhaps we will get now some unkown recordings from fans who have never traded before. All we are trading these days are (for serious collectors) well known recordings. New recordings comes up from a handfull great fans who are taping current shows. They know who they are !!!! Thanks guys ! It is time for some "new" old recordings that are well hidden and should see the light of day because the trading ban is stopped and we all are allowed to trade the music we love !!! cheers Bernhard From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 9 12:29:44 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:29:44 -0600 Subject: Sunday Space Rock Cyndee Special In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ((<*>))On 2/9/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > Steve, How could you forget? haha > Kaduflyer((<*>)) The same as me, remember a lot of people have big collections and Sunday is their theorectical weekend.....and I even forget USA times included would be cool, especially on the weds recast, figuring that time out put stress on me, even though I could do it..... mike From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 9 12:43:57 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 11:43:57 -0600 Subject: HW: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows In-Reply-To: <1JNsWn-1Cbkie0@fwd33.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Hawkwind is maybe THE ONE band who shouldn't worry about the trading except where shows are captured soundboard and whatever other pro-touches they use for an ofiicial release they have been kinged the "gods" of psychedelic, and the more in people's hands the merrier as long as band member's farts do not come through louder and clearer than the original toot, this should be the right move, IMHO now, send me mercy CDR's, since I am loved SOOO much and am so poor because fighting for UFO disclosure is harder than being a starving muscian- the good news- I am so smart-ass, I will get the job done (not to mention this is why I was born on earth) mike c On 2/9/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > Hello folks > > Here is a message to make some things clear and solve the confusion I may > have caused in my mail 2 days ago > > - I am in posession of about 780 Hawkwind live recordings on CDR and/or > tape > - I am colleceting recordings for about 20 years > - I will NEVER act against Hawkwinds trading rules !!!! > - In the past, now and in the future I will share my collection with every > serious Hawkwind fan/collector > - In the past I have traded 1 recording in return for another show > - I will continue this sort of trading !! > - Some fans I am trading with are doing trees from the shows they have > received from me. No problem for me ! > - In the past I have digged out LOTS of recordings that were not available > to other fans. > - Most of them are available to other fans now > > The reason for my mail 2 days ago was to wake up some "sleeping" > Hawkwind-Live-Recordings-Owners. > Of course I will trade the Torquay 2001 show for free in the next couple > of > weeks. > > But perhaps we will get now some unkown recordings from fans who have > never > traded before. > > All we are trading these days are (for serious collectors) well known > recordings. > New recordings comes up from a handfull great fans who are taping current > shows. They know who they are !!!! Thanks guys ! > > It is time for some "new" old recordings that are well hidden and should > see > the light of day > because the trading ban is stopped and we all are allowed to trade the > music > we love !!! > > > cheers > Bernhard > > > > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Feb 9 14:40:05 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:40:05 -0500 Subject: Sunday Space Rock Cyndee Special In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802090929p6466f101r1f10bfce155d391d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, There's a 6 hour time difference for you. I don't know if that changes with day light savings time. Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 9 15:08:16 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:08:16 -0600 Subject: Sunday Space Rock Cyndee Special In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ((<*>))2/9/08, vzenv14m wrote: > Hi Mike, > There's a 6 hour time difference for you. I don't know if that changes > with > day light savings time ((<*>)) Mary I have probably known that before you- you don't frick around on eBay, nor waking up your friends across oceans by telly (we say phone) at a poor hour, much less interrupt a sex life::::::::but I don't serve humanity in any normal way and you or someone could be wasting valuable UFO moments in my mind I've litte capcity for this so limited race of whatever it's dominant creatures could be adequately termed for Banbury, stating any of the USA times such as : Eastern , Pacific, or best yet, Central-Standard time, would be a closer move to this future we will create, who cares if it's raioactive and hateful, and makes charred hash-browns out of all we have ever known....... God can make more, why I wouldn't understand Mc From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Sat Feb 9 16:14:28 2008 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:14:28 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:09:31PM -0500, Albert Bouchard wrote: > In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers > should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this Thursday > Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is > 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. > > The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft > White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and > Adrian Romero. So glad I decided to start checking my list mail more often...!! Steve From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 9 17:14:39 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:14:39 -0600 Subject: (OFF) RonTree/ Judge Trev Message-ID: get this, I know of 3 confirmable copies of what must be one of the Capt. Jesus LP's minus cover (I think some went out at shows minus cover, didn't they?) where he signed "Ron Bagina Tree" hehehehehe if anybody has upwards of 40 quid I can probably produce one, since I doubt my infosourse would get all 3........ mike c UNPLAYED From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Feb 9 17:52:19 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:52:19 -0500 Subject: Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The value all depends on what they're soiled with. Good luck, ha, ha. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Feb 9 18:12:33 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:12:33 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: <20080209211428.GA7328@plutonia.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, Nice to see a posting from you, it's been a while. Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 9 18:39:56 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 17:39:56 -0600 Subject: (OFF, over 13 years of age comments?) Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer Message-ID: sweat Mary, especially the kind after a guy's been out in the Texas summer of 110 degrees all the day long by USA measurement, if you gals could fill the tub and bathe in it you would, simply very discreetly anything else you get would be a possible jackpot for the price if I were you, and I'm not, get them auto'd since the Bainbridge "T" fell into other fondlie hands... *THE ABOVE SILLYNESS SPAWNED FROM THE POST DIRECTLY BELOW, thank you, and may this weekend inspire us ALL to overcome and even overtake, this world holding so much disagreement for us* On 2/9/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > The value all depends on what they're soiled with. Good luck, ha, ha. > > Kaduflyer > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Feb 9 18:47:33 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:47:33 -0500 Subject: (OFF, over 13 years of age comments?) Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802091539n1db083aatfd14192fab4c2363@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: are you sure that's what it is? Mary From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 9 19:00:30 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 18:00:30 -0600 Subject: (OFF, over 13 years of age comments?) Trading ban is stopped --> Here is my offer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: today it was....I never wanted a bath in sweat myself On 2/9/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > are you sure that's what it is? > > Mary > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Feb 10 04:08:22 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:08:22 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock Radio Show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com FEBRUARY 10, 2008: NEW RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #194). See the playlist below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #194) Stone Oak Cosmonaut - "Out of Orbit Part 2 - Star Voyage" (yet to be released) Leaf - "The Quiet and Friendly Gnome" (unreleased) Howl in the Typewriter - track 9 (from Grand Theft Audio) Vopat - "Find Something" (from Vopat) Loxley Beade - "Waiting For The Day" (from Homogeneous Hump) Ira Del Baccano - "a Propulsione di Improbabilita' Infinita' Part3" (edit) (unreleased) Ohead - "Desert Path" (from Gaia's Garden) Alien Sun - "Alien Sun Trip" (yet to be released) Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O - "Ruck Zuck" (from 41st Century Splendid Man Returns) The Higher Craft - "Time Bandit" (from Myspace.com download) Cortez - "The High Life" (from Thunder In A Forgotten Town) Deville - "Sweet Blood" (from Come Heavy Sleep) All A Stagger - "Out There Somewhere" (from In Sight Of Earshot) http://Aural-Innovations.com From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 10 15:13:33 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:13:33 EST Subject: Sunday Space Rock Cyndee Special Message-ID: What happened? They're just playing lame 80's garbage? Steve. In a message dated 02/08/2008 21:07:26 GMT Standard Time, dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM writes: This Sunday 20:00 GMT,Space Rock violinist Cyndee Lee Rule will be calling in live from Philadelphia. Cyndee appears on many albums by noted Space Rock bands and musicians and also on her own recordings. She has played live with many of the genres top people, such as Harvey Bainbridge. I will be playing tunes from many of the musical projects Cyndees Viper violin is featured on. Also on the show music from:Hawkwind, Humanoid, Absinth House, Omnia Opera, Leviathan and more Be sure to tune in this and every Sunday on www.banburymusicrad io.com From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Feb 10 16:09:50 2008 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:09:50 -0500 Subject: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't suppose anyone has the address of the church on the cover of "On Your Feet .. ."? _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From berryj170 at MSN.COM Sun Feb 10 17:07:11 2008 From: berryj170 at MSN.COM (JOHN BERRY) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:07:11 -0500 Subject: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The church is located on route 35 in Vista NY, right on the southern Connecticut border.> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:09:50 -0500> From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > I don't suppose anyone has the address of the church on the cover of "On Your Feet .. ."?> > _________________________________________________________________> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Feb 10 17:59:13 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:59:13 -0500 Subject: On Your Feet . . . question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I haven't heard that 1 or Secret Treaties in a long time, both great albums. As soon as I heard the track Rock and Roll, I said to myself, these guys are going to go far. That was the first time I heard BOC. Kaduflyer From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Sun Feb 10 18:22:16 2008 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Anthony ORourke) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:22:16 +0000 Subject: BOCFANS fundraiser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't know if you've seen it or are interested but I thought I would advertise it nevertheless. Some of the good people over at BOCFANS.com are trying to put together a fundraiser for BOC FANS SHOW. In other words, the fans (try and ) recommend the setlist. The hope is that BOC can be persuaded to do a special gig some time in Nov/Dec in the NYC area. Currently they are asking for pledges and soon the cash. I've no idea what a BOC show costs to put on - band and venue hire, security, insurance, etc - but I guess it's a lot. If you're interested here's a link to the page on BOCFANS. http://www.bocfans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9221 Tony From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Sun Feb 10 23:49:31 2008 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:49:31 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 06:12:33PM -0500, vzenv14m wrote: > Hi Steve, > Nice to see a posting from you, it's been a while. > > Kaduflyer Thanks. :) Been busy with a bunch of real life stuff lately, not nearly as much of it music-related as I would prefer... Steve From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 11 06:14:21 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:14:21 GMT Subject: (OFF) RonTree/ Judge Trev In-Reply-To: The Intelligentsia's message of Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:14:39 -0600 Message-ID: The Intelligentsia writes: > get this, I know of 3 confirmable copies of what must be one of the Capt. > Jesus LP's minus cover (I think some went out at shows minus cover, didn't > they?) > where he signed "Ron Bagina Tree" "The Bajina Monologues" would be a great title for an album >;-) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Feb 11 09:40:48 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:40:48 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: <20080209211428.GA7328@plutonia.com> Message-ID: On 09 Feb 2008, at 16:14 , Stephen Swann wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:09:31PM -0500, Albert Bouchard wrote: >> In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers >> should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this >> Thursday >> Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is >> 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. >> >> The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft >> White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and >> Adrian Romero. > > So glad I decided to start checking my list mail more often...!! Yup, this is worth delurking for! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 11 09:46:27 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:46:27 -0600 Subject: (OFF) RonTree/ Judge Trev In-Reply-To: <200802111114.m1BBEL6t013207@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: the problem is that neither of them wants to tell the other just how doomed they'd be if there were a reunion i say bullocks, do it, put out the album of the below title, and watch the green grow On 2/11/08, M Holmes wrote: > > The Intelligentsia writes: > > > get this, I know of 3 confirmable copies of what must be one of the > Capt. > > Jesus LP's minus cover (I think some went out at shows minus cover, > didn't > > they?) > > where he signed "Ron Bagina Tree" > > "The Bajina Monologues" would be a great title for an album >;-) > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 11 09:51:31 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:51:31 -0600 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Carl- please forgive if my old-age, amphetamine cheese-hole'd brain makes a mistake here, but didn't you go off because of a move, and are you not the one who had an Inner City Unit Max Effect CDR go bad??? if so, funny thing, mine just died Trev was looking for you to replace it mike On 2/11/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 09 Feb 2008, at 16:14 , Stephen Swann wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:09:31PM -0500, Albert Bouchard wrote: > >> In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers > >> should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this > >> Thursday > >> Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is > >> 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. > >> > >> The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft > >> White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and > >> Adrian Romero. > > > > So glad I decided to start checking my list mail more often...!! > > > Yup, this is worth delurking for! :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Feb 11 11:23:21 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:23:21 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: One Eyed Bishops w/ Backyard: This Friday night 2/15!!! One Eyed Bishops w/ Backyard 1 nite of great music!!! Body: 02/15/2008 08:00 PM - Barrington Coffeehouse 131 Clements Bridge Rd. Barrington, New Jersey 08007 Description:special acoustic show with guest vocalist ?Stewkey? of NAZZ. Check out: www.Barringtoncoffeehouse.com Backyard is a great band from South Jersey. They play a nice mixture of classic music.. check them out at: www.myspace.com/backyardmusic OEB lineup at this time: Mike Burro : guitars/vocalsStewkey ( of NAZZ ) vocalssee: www.myspace.com/Nazzfeaturingstewkey www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 ( for additional OEB dates ) _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Mon Feb 11 12:00:23 2008 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (David Adams) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:00:23 -0000 Subject: Sunday space rock great news!! Message-ID: Sunday Space Rock..good news After the debarcle with the changed lock to the street door on Sunday. BMR now have keys to the new lock and the presenters can get back into the studio! The great new for Space Rock Sunday fans (the most popular show on BMR..Thank You!!) is that next Sunday will be a 3 hour show, 7pm to 10pm. As well as packing in all the great music I had lined up for last Sunday, and the interview with Cyndee Lee Rule, I will be talking to Danny faulkner ahead of the release of the new Pre Med album on monday, and giving exclusive air play to tracks from the new album. So Sunday Space Rock 17th Feb 3 solid hours of the best Space Rock music and 2 interviews. You cant miss it folks Sunday night is Space Rock night. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Feb 11 13:05:26 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:05:26 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802110651h7a289bafycb3b186a5c32b93f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11 Feb 2008, at 09:51 , The Intelligentsia wrote: > please forgive if my old-age, amphetamine cheese-hole'd brain makes a > mistake here, but didn't you go off because of a move, I did. I'm still moved, but less gone off now. :) > and are you not the > one who had an Inner City Unit Max Effect CDR go bad??? > if so, funny thing, mine just died > Trev was looking for you to replace it I was, yeah! My ICU Maximum Effect CDR, originally purchased from or via Trev, I think, was indeed found dead shortly before I left the UK. Sorry to hear yours has now keeled over as well -- bummer! If I (and you) could somehow get a replacement, that would be awesome. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Feb 11 14:25:10 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:25:10 +0000 Subject: HW: (off) Litmus at the Bull and Gate - January 25th In-Reply-To: <001001c85b62$6ad07c70$0202a8c0@ga8s661fxmprz> Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 08:46:03PM +0800, Bill & Cynthia typed out: > > ObCD: Omnia Opera - _Red Shift_ > > Hi Jon > > Where did you get the Omnia Opera CD from? Saw them at Hawkfest and they > were a highlight. From the late lamented Freak Emporium about a year after it originally came out, I'm afraid... Not much use to you. Amazon have still got copies but they're fearsomely expensive, and Gemm only have the first one, self-titled, which isn't as, er, finished. Though more like the way they currently sound, I think. So I'm afraid I haven't got a useful answer, sorry. Yours, Jon ObCD: Melvins - _Stag_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 11 15:24:45 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:24:45 -0000 Subject: Shameless Message-ID: yes i strongly advise everyone not to buy anything from real festival music anymore because the owner is a shark who sells duff merchandise judge duff bye bye ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Intelligentsia" To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Shameless > Hey Carl- > please forgive if my old-age, amphetamine cheese-hole'd brain makes a > mistake here, but didn't you go off because of a move, and are you not the > one who had an Inner City Unit Max Effect CDR go bad??? > if so, funny thing, mine just died > Trev was looking for you to replace it > mike > > > On 2/11/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >> On 09 Feb 2008, at 16:14 , Stephen Swann wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:09:31PM -0500, Albert Bouchard wrote: >> >> In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers >> >> should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this >> >> Thursday >> >> Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is >> >> 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. >> >> >> >> The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft >> >> White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and >> >> Adrian Romero. >> > >> > So glad I decided to start checking my list mail more often...!! >> >> >> Yup, this is worth delurking for! :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Feb 11 16:09:52 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:09:52 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: <3F938093-1163-4531-A7B3-416B30FA914E@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Hi Carl, Don't worry, Trev is really cool about that kind of thing, good luck. Kaduflyer From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 11 17:07:24 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:07:24 -0000 Subject: Shameless Message-ID: and unless i get a smoking patch quick, i'm gonna kill everyone on the list (kids too) just like i did before judge kill hallo ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev" To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Shameless > yes i strongly advise everyone not to buy anything from real festival > music anymore because the owner is a shark who sells duff merchandise > > > judge duff > > bye bye > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Intelligentsia" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: Shameless > > >> Hey Carl- >> please forgive if my old-age, amphetamine cheese-hole'd brain makes a >> mistake here, but didn't you go off because of a move, and are you not >> the >> one who had an Inner City Unit Max Effect CDR go bad??? >> if so, funny thing, mine just died >> Trev was looking for you to replace it >> mike >> >> >> On 2/11/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >>> >>> On 09 Feb 2008, at 16:14 , Stephen Swann wrote: >>> >>> > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:09:31PM -0500, Albert Bouchard wrote: >>> >> In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers >>> >> should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this >>> >> Thursday >>> >> Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is >>> >> 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. >>> >> >>> >> The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft >>> >> White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and >>> >> Adrian Romero. >>> > >>> > So glad I decided to start checking my list mail more often...!! >>> >>> >>> Yup, this is worth delurking for! :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Carl >>> >>> -- >>> Carl Edlund Anderson >>> http://www.carlaz.com/ >>> >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 11 20:31:21 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:31:21 -0000 Subject: Shameless Message-ID: send your request and address to judge48 at hotmail.com and you will get a new one as it says on the website no questions asked replacement policy this policy doesn't apply to mike coleman because it only applies to members of the human race hur hur jt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Shameless > On 11 Feb 2008, at 09:51 , The Intelligentsia wrote: >> please forgive if my old-age, amphetamine cheese-hole'd brain makes a >> mistake here, but didn't you go off because of a move, > > I did. I'm still moved, but less gone off now. :) > >> and are you not the >> one who had an Inner City Unit Max Effect CDR go bad??? >> if so, funny thing, mine just died >> Trev was looking for you to replace it > > > I was, yeah! My ICU Maximum Effect CDR, originally purchased from or > via Trev, I think, was indeed found dead shortly before I left the > UK. Sorry to hear yours has now keeled over as well -- bummer! If I > (and you) could somehow get a replacement, that would be awesome. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Feb 12 01:30:49 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:30:49 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Trev, As you know, Mike's transcended the human race, a long time ago. That makes him qualified. Don't worry, you're 1 of the few he won't kill, ha,ha. Your pal, Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Feb 12 04:04:51 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Intelligentsia) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:04:51 -0600 Subject: Shameless CDR vs CD questions Message-ID: Just _what_ is the deal here??? In my past experiences I have had 2 problems: 1) CD's with scratches either so deep or so many of them that they cause the music to get "hung up", making a very fast rotational clicking noise 2) Ozric Tentacle's original Dovetail CD's having an apparent "ink" problem, whereupon it would eat down into the cd, and cause the music to become a horror noise rather than music *BUT THEN RECENTLY, I tried to copy some HW CDR's at a friend's, and he's an ass, as well as a friend, so of course they were done at 4x normal speed and DID NOT come out right* *come to find out, he can record actual cd's at 4x with no problem, but NOT CDR's* *so what's the deal with THAT?????* *then we get to Trev's Max Effect CDR......not normal here either- what mine does, is it has occasional drop-outs in the music, and will tend to jump ahead in the tracks* *now admittedly my players are cheap, but they only malfunction with this one- also, there are a fair amount of blemishes on it because he's a musician, and most don't know better, etc* *my point being: I thought none of this stuff was supposed to happen with CD's/CDR's!!! I thought only hang-up's would occur when too many scratches or a scratch that is too deep is present* *fill me in folks, would ya please!!!!* *thanks* *mc* ** ** From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Feb 12 05:38:42 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (LSD KILL!! KILL!!!) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:38:42 -0600 Subject: HW Kollekter mail, Doremi's anyone Message-ID: here is a couple items I thought worth a mention since they can both just be blought: the first, an original japanese press of Doremi which opens up into a gatefold revealing both sides if the original inner sleeve in gray and black it comes with a nice big white booklet with photos, etc.....these LP's are pressed heavy-duty on the cover and record the price is reasonable and could be higher http://cgi.ebay.com/PROMO-WHITE-LABEL-HAWKWIND-JAPAN-DOREMI-FASOL-LATIDO_W0QQitemZ300189660629QQihZ020QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem next is a German record club press that has a significantly different label, and thus makes it desirable http://cgi.ebay.com/HAWKWIND-Doremi-Fasol-Latido_W0QQitemZ230221550046QQihZ013QQcategoryZ37188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem mike c From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Feb 12 06:05:36 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:05:36 +0000 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802120104n27cb82b4uf0ea74ea03b60f80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12 Feb 2008, at 9:04 AM, The Intelligentsia wrote: > Just _what_ is the deal here??? > In my past experiences I have had 2 problems: > 1) CD's with scratches either so deep or so many of them that they > cause the > music to get "hung up", making a very fast rotational clicking noise > 2) Ozric Tentacle's original Dovetail CD's having an apparent "ink" > problem, > whereupon it would eat down into the cd, and cause the music to > become a > horror noise rather than music > *BUT THEN RECENTLY, I tried to copy some HW CDR's at a friend's, and > he's an > ass, as well as a friend, so of course they were done at 4x normal > speed and > DID NOT come out right* > *come to find out, he can record actual cd's at 4x with no problem, > but NOT > CDR's* > *so what's the deal with THAT?????* > *then we get to Trev's Max Effect CDR......not normal here either- > what > mine does, is it has occasional drop-outs in the music, and will > tend to > jump ahead in the tracks* > *now admittedly my players are cheap, but they only malfunction with > this > one- also, there are a fair amount of blemishes on it because he's a > musician, and most don't know better, etc* > *my point being: I thought none of this stuff was supposed to happen > with > CD's/CDR's!!! I thought only hang-up's would occur when too many > scratches > or a scratch that is too deep is present* > *fill me in folks, would ya please!!!!* Here's the gist of it: CDs and CD-Rs use different physical technologies to encode the music layer and so are prone to degradation in different ways. In particular, CD-Rs are less robust than CDs and, usually, scratches on the underside are the least of your worries. Greatly simplified, CD-Rs are basically a shiny reflective layer with a layer of organic dye underneath, all encased in plastic. Music is recorded on the disc by the CD-R drive laser operating at higher than normal read power. The higher power causes the organic dye layer at that particular point on the disc to change its chemical properties and, importantly, to become optically different, reflectively speaking. (That's why they call it "burning" a CD-R.) So, altering the organic dye layer is how the 0s and 1s that encode the disc's contents (including music) are recorded. This presents two major points of failure as far as disc longevity and playback quality is concerned: the quality (and stability) of the organic dye layer, and the toughness of the reflective label layer. If the reflective label side is easily breached or scratched this can cause damage because at those points on the disc there is now nothing to reflect the read laser back. So, discs with tougher reflective layer sides are better. If the organic dye layer degrades then this leads to a general increase in the Bit Error Rate (BER) of the disc. Once the BER becomes too high (to be compensated for by the built-in error correction capabilities of the CD format) then you start to get playback problems. The organic dye layer can degrade for a variety of reasons: poor storage; excessive heat or humidity; etc. Remember, though, that the organic dye is a chemical and so, as with all chemicals, can vary in quality due to the materials and processes that go into manufacturing the chemical. So, low quality dyes may not be as stable over the long term and might degrade faster than higher quality dyes. (A lack of stability causes the optical properties to degrade over time; 0s degrading into 1s; etc.---somewhat similar to the "CD rot" that afflicted the Ozric Tentacles Dovetail pressed CDs.) Low quality dyes might also make the original recording of a lower quality in the sense that it is closer to the acceptable margins of engineering tolerance (pits and lands size, etc.) allowed by the CD format. For example, if a dye is lower quality, it might not change its state well-defined enough when burning at high speed, resulting in a recorded disc that is already at the margins. Such discs will be harder to play on a variety of different hardware and are less likely to have as long a useful life. As for underside scratches, the ones that do the most damage are the ones that run parallel to the CD spiral direction. Ones that radiate straight out from the centre to the edge are the least damaging because they affect less contiguous runs of bits, and so are the easiest to overcome via the CD format error correction. Likewise, surface scratches that are not too deep are usually not problematic because the laser focuses past them and so, optically, they don't present much of a challenge. To sum up, even though lots of people will no doubt disagree, the main factor on the LONG TERM life of your CD-Rs is the quality of the disc and how it is stored. Buy good quality discs and you will have less problems. Again, this will probably kick off an argument, so take it for what it's worth, but the usual rule of thumb is to try and avoid "Made in Taiwan" discs and look for "Made in Japan" discs. There is a big quality difference in the fabrication plants and the consensus is that the Japanese ones are higher quality. There aren't that many fabrication plants and most of the varieties of discs you see are just companies branding product from some fab or other. Unfortunately, most of the discs you find in the shops are of the made in Taiwan variety. In the interests of full disclosure, I buy unbranded Taiyo Yuden discs. I hope this helps. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 12 07:31:51 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:31:51 -0000 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) Message-ID: hi paul, i used to use verbatim data life plus. the last lot were on data write i burn them one at a time at16 x on a 52 x burner (nero burning rom) then print the on-body on an epson photo r265. i also print, cut out, assemble the covers by hand each cd takes 15 mins to produce, not counting the 20 -30 hours or so to, master tracks, design cover etc the amount i sell on rfm makes it uneconomical to mass-produce most emergent bands who play at green festivals (real festival music bands) find it uneconomical to produce anything but cdrs i think it's better to sell cdr's than to not have your music heard, apart from live performances, which would be the choice for a lot of of these bands i'll be buying jap cdrs from now on...are there any other jap branded makes that you can recommend. cdrs are now so cheap that it's madness to buy any but the best i buy from svp communications (blankdiscshop) a commercial re-release of max effect is on the cards soon...maybe it's quite refreshing to speak to someone on this list who obviously isn't mentally deranged .... lol best wishes, jt REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CDs, Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) > On 12 Feb 2008, at 9:04 AM, The Intelligentsia wrote: > >> Just _what_ is the deal here??? >> In my past experiences I have had 2 problems: >> 1) CD's with scratches either so deep or so many of them that they cause >> the >> music to get "hung up", making a very fast rotational clicking noise >> 2) Ozric Tentacle's original Dovetail CD's having an apparent "ink" >> problem, >> whereupon it would eat down into the cd, and cause the music to become a >> horror noise rather than music >> *BUT THEN RECENTLY, I tried to copy some HW CDR's at a friend's, and >> he's an >> ass, as well as a friend, so of course they were done at 4x normal speed >> and >> DID NOT come out right* >> *come to find out, he can record actual cd's at 4x with no problem, but >> NOT >> CDR's* >> *so what's the deal with THAT?????* >> *then we get to Trev's Max Effect CDR......not normal here either- >> what >> mine does, is it has occasional drop-outs in the music, and will tend to >> jump ahead in the tracks* >> *now admittedly my players are cheap, but they only malfunction with >> this >> one- also, there are a fair amount of blemishes on it because he's a >> musician, and most don't know better, etc* >> *my point being: I thought none of this stuff was supposed to happen >> with >> CD's/CDR's!!! I thought only hang-up's would occur when too many >> scratches >> or a scratch that is too deep is present* >> *fill me in folks, would ya please!!!!* > > Here's the gist of it: CDs and CD-Rs use different physical technologies > to encode the music layer and so are prone to degradation in different > ways. In particular, CD-Rs are less robust than CDs and, usually, > scratches on the underside are the least of your worries. > > Greatly simplified, CD-Rs are basically a shiny reflective layer with a > layer of organic dye underneath, all encased in plastic. Music is > recorded on the disc by the CD-R drive laser operating at higher than > normal read power. The higher power causes the organic dye layer at that > particular point on the disc to change its chemical properties and, > importantly, to become optically different, reflectively speaking. > (That's why they call it "burning" a CD-R.) So, altering the organic dye > layer is how the 0s and 1s that encode the disc's contents (including > music) are recorded. > > This presents two major points of failure as far as disc longevity and > playback quality is concerned: the quality (and stability) of the organic > dye layer, and the toughness of the reflective label layer. If the > reflective label side is easily breached or scratched this can cause > damage because at those points on the disc there is now nothing to > reflect the read laser back. So, discs with tougher reflective layer > sides are better. > > If the organic dye layer degrades then this leads to a general increase > in the Bit Error Rate (BER) of the disc. Once the BER becomes too high > (to be compensated for by the built-in error correction capabilities of > the CD format) then you start to get playback problems. The organic dye > layer can degrade for a variety of reasons: poor storage; excessive heat > or humidity; etc. Remember, though, that the organic dye is a chemical > and so, as with all chemicals, can vary in quality due to the materials > and processes that go into manufacturing the chemical. So, low quality > dyes may not be as stable over the long term and might degrade faster > than higher quality dyes. (A lack of stability causes the optical > properties to degrade over time; 0s degrading into 1s; etc.---somewhat > similar to the "CD rot" that afflicted the Ozric Tentacles Dovetail > pressed CDs.) Low quality dyes might also make the original recording of > a lower quality in the sense that it is closer to the acceptable margins > of engineering tolerance (pits and lands size, etc.) allowed by the CD > format. For example, if a dye is lower quality, it might not change its > state well-defined enough when burning at high speed, resulting in a > recorded disc that is already at the margins. Such discs will be harder > to play on a variety of different hardware and are less likely to have as > long a useful life. > > As for underside scratches, the ones that do the most damage are the ones > that run parallel to the CD spiral direction. Ones that radiate straight > out from the centre to the edge are the least damaging because they > affect less contiguous runs of bits, and so are the easiest to overcome > via the CD format error correction. Likewise, surface scratches that are > not too deep are usually not problematic because the laser focuses past > them and so, optically, they don't present much of a challenge. > > To sum up, even though lots of people will no doubt disagree, the main > factor on the LONG TERM life of your CD-Rs is the quality of the disc and > how it is stored. Buy good quality discs and you will have less > problems. > > Again, this will probably kick off an argument, so take it for what it's > worth, but the usual rule of thumb is to try and avoid "Made in Taiwan" > discs and look for "Made in Japan" discs. There is a big quality > difference in the fabrication plants and the consensus is that the > Japanese ones are higher quality. There aren't that many fabrication > plants and most of the varieties of discs you see are just companies > branding product from some fab or other. Unfortunately, most of the > discs you find in the shops are of the made in Taiwan variety. In the > interests of full disclosure, I buy unbranded Taiyo Yuden discs. > > I hope this helps. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Feb 12 07:47:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (LSD KILL!! KILL!!!) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:47:08 -0600 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: first: major thanks Paul second: it wasn't about RFM Trev, and dood, you've got German vinyl CDR_Acetate_ Max Effect no matter about the comm release that I already knew might happen On 2/12/08, trev wrote: > > hi paul, > > i used to use verbatim data life plus. the last lot were on data write > i burn them one at a time at16 x on a 52 x burner (nero burning rom) > then print the on-body on an epson photo r265. > i also print, cut out, assemble the covers by hand > each cd takes 15 mins to produce, not counting the 20 -30 hours or so to, > master tracks, design cover etc > > the amount i sell on rfm makes it uneconomical to mass-produce > > most emergent bands who play at green festivals (real festival music > bands) > find it uneconomical to produce anything but cdrs > > i think it's better to sell cdr's than to not have your music heard, apart > from live performances, which would be the choice for a lot of of these > bands > > i'll be buying jap cdrs from now on...are there any other jap branded > makes > that you can recommend. > cdrs are now so cheap that it's madness to buy any but the best > > i buy from svp communications (blankdiscshop) > > a commercial re-release of max effect is on the cards soon...maybe > > it's quite refreshing to speak to someone on this list who obviously isn't > mentally deranged .... lol > > best wishes, > > jt > > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > Festival CDs, Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, News, Healers > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Mather" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:05 AM > Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) > > > > On 12 Feb 2008, at 9:04 AM, The Intelligentsia wrote: > > > >> Just _what_ is the deal here??? > >> In my past experiences I have had 2 problems: > >> 1) CD's with scratches either so deep or so many of them that > they cause > >> the > >> music to get "hung up", making a very fast rotational clicking noise > >> 2) Ozric Tentacle's original Dovetail CD's having an apparent "ink" > >> problem, > >> whereupon it would eat down into the cd, and cause the music to become > a > >> horror noise rather than music > >> *BUT THEN RECENTLY, I tried to copy some HW CDR's at a friend's, and > >> he's an > >> ass, as well as a friend, so of course they were done at 4x > normal speed > >> and > >> DID NOT come out right* > >> *come to find out, he can record actual cd's at 4x with no > problem, but > >> NOT > >> CDR's* > >> *so what's the deal with THAT?????* > >> *then we get to Trev's Max Effect CDR......not normal here either- > >> what > >> mine does, is it has occasional drop-outs in the music, and will tend > to > >> jump ahead in the tracks* > >> *now admittedly my players are cheap, but they only malfunction with > >> this > >> one- also, there are a fair amount of blemishes on it because he's a > >> musician, and most don't know better, etc* > >> *my point being: I thought none of this stuff was supposed to happen > >> with > >> CD's/CDR's!!! I thought only hang-up's would occur when too many > >> scratches > >> or a scratch that is too deep is present* > >> *fill me in folks, would ya please!!!!* > > > > Here's the gist of it: CDs and CD-Rs use different > physical technologies > > to encode the music layer and so are prone to degradation in different > > ways. In particular, CD-Rs are less robust than CDs and, usually, > > scratches on the underside are the least of your worries. > > > > Greatly simplified, CD-Rs are basically a shiny reflective layer with a > > layer of organic dye underneath, all encased in plastic. Music is > > recorded on the disc by the CD-R drive laser operating at higher than > > normal read power. The higher power causes the organic dye layer > at that > > particular point on the disc to change its chemical properties and, > > importantly, to become optically different, reflectively speaking. > > (That's why they call it "burning" a CD-R.) So, altering the organic > dye > > layer is how the 0s and 1s that encode the disc's contents (including > > music) are recorded. > > > > This presents two major points of failure as far as disc longevity and > > playback quality is concerned: the quality (and stability) of > the organic > > dye layer, and the toughness of the reflective label layer. If the > > reflective label side is easily breached or scratched this can cause > > damage because at those points on the disc there is now nothing to > > reflect the read laser back. So, discs with tougher reflective layer > > sides are better. > > > > If the organic dye layer degrades then this leads to a general increase > > in the Bit Error Rate (BER) of the disc. Once the BER becomes too high > > (to be compensated for by the built-in error correction capabilities of > > the CD format) then you start to get playback problems. The organic > dye > > layer can degrade for a variety of reasons: poor storage; excessive > heat > > or humidity; etc. Remember, though, that the organic dye is a chemical > > and so, as with all chemicals, can vary in quality due to the materials > > and processes that go into manufacturing the chemical. So, low quality > > dyes may not be as stable over the long term and might degrade faster > > than higher quality dyes. (A lack of stability causes the optical > > properties to degrade over time; 0s degrading into 1s; etc.---somewhat > > similar to the "CD rot" that afflicted the Ozric Tentacles Dovetail > > pressed CDs.) Low quality dyes might also make the original recording > of > > a lower quality in the sense that it is closer to the acceptable > margins > > of engineering tolerance (pits and lands size, etc.) allowed by the CD > > format. For example, if a dye is lower quality, it might not > change its > > state well-defined enough when burning at high speed, resulting in a > > recorded disc that is already at the margins. Such discs will > be harder > > to play on a variety of different hardware and are less likely to have > as > > long a useful life. > > > > As for underside scratches, the ones that do the most damage are > the ones > > that run parallel to the CD spiral direction. Ones that > radiate straight > > out from the centre to the edge are the least damaging because they > > affect less contiguous runs of bits, and so are the easiest to overcome > > via the CD format error correction. Likewise, surface scratches that > are > > not too deep are usually not problematic because the laser focuses past > > them and so, optically, they don't present much of a challenge. > > > > To sum up, even though lots of people will no doubt disagree, the main > > factor on the LONG TERM life of your CD-Rs is the quality of the > disc and > > how it is stored. Buy good quality discs and you will have less > > problems. > > > > Again, this will probably kick off an argument, so take it for > what it's > > worth, but the usual rule of thumb is to try and avoid "Made in Taiwan" > > discs and look for "Made in Japan" discs. There is a big quality > > difference in the fabrication plants and the consensus is that the > > Japanese ones are higher quality. There aren't that many fabrication > > plants and most of the varieties of discs you see are just companies > > branding product from some fab or other. Unfortunately, most of the > > discs you find in the shops are of the made in Taiwan variety. In the > > interests of full disclosure, I buy unbranded Taiyo Yuden discs. > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Paul. > > > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > > > From starrywisdom at EMULSIONALCHEMY.ORG Tue Feb 12 10:19:01 2008 From: starrywisdom at EMULSIONALCHEMY.ORG (Adam Savje) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:19:01 -0500 Subject: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question Message-ID: Can you find it on google earth? ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN BERRY" To: Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question The church is located on route 35 in Vista NY, right on the southern Connecticut border.> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:09:50 -0500> From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > I don't suppose anyone has the address of the church on the cover of "On Your Feet .. ."?> > _________________________________________________________________> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> http://biggestloser.msn.com/= From starrywisdom at EMULSIONALCHEMY.ORG Tue Feb 12 10:30:42 2008 From: starrywisdom at EMULSIONALCHEMY.ORG (Adam Savje) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:30:42 -0500 Subject: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question Message-ID: I wonder if this is the church? 8 Shady Ln South Salem, NY 10590 http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&tab=wl ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN BERRY" To: Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question The church is located on route 35 in Vista NY, right on the southern Connecticut border.> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:09:50 -0500> From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: BOC: On Your Feet . . . question> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > I don't suppose anyone has the address of the church on the cover of "On Your Feet .. ."?> > _________________________________________________________________> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> http://biggestloser.msn.com/= From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Feb 12 12:49:56 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:49:56 -0500 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12 Feb 2008, at 06:05 , Paul Mather wrote: > (A lack of stability causes the optical properties to degrade over > time; 0s degrading into 1s; etc.---somewhat similar to the "CD rot" > that afflicted the Ozric Tentacles Dovetail pressed CDs.) My Dovetail OT CDs definitely show the scary "bronzing" of CD rot, and have for some time. But if there are any problems, the CD error correction has overcome them so far! Besides, I've now ripped them all to lossless files on a big ol' hard drive, which is itself backed up to another big ol' harddrive, so I'm less worried than I was. :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Feb 12 13:01:53 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:01:53 -0800 Subject: Lemmy interview Message-ID: http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/Interviews/08/Interview_with_Lemmy.htm --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Feb 12 14:21:40 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:21:40 +0000 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12 Feb 2008, at 12:31 PM, trev wrote: > hi paul, > > i used to use verbatim data life plus. the last lot were on data write > i burn them one at a time at16 x on a 52 x burner (nero burning rom) > then print the on-body on an epson photo r265. > i also print, cut out, assemble the covers by hand > each cd takes 15 mins to produce, not counting the 20 -30 hours or > so to, master tracks, design cover etc > > the amount i sell on rfm makes it uneconomical to mass-produce > > most emergent bands who play at green festivals (real festival music > bands) find it uneconomical to produce anything but cdrs > > i think it's better to sell cdr's than to not have your music heard, > apart from live performances, which would be the choice for a lot of > of these bands I agree with you entirely. CD-Rs are a great way to beat the economics of scale that work against you when trying to do pressed CD runs. Digital downloads are becoming another way for bands to get the music out there, too, but the infrastructure requirement may be more than emergent bands can manage. I did hear recently of one band selling "instant live"-type recordings at gigs on USB sticks! (I forget the name of the band.) It's good that there are different ways of getting the music out there. > i'll be buying jap cdrs from now on...are there any other jap > branded makes that you can recommend. > cdrs are now so cheap that it's madness to buy any but the best I used to buy Mitsui CD-Rs, which used to be the "gold standard" for CD-Rs, especially Mitsui Golds. But, I don't know if they're still up there nowadays. (I heard their foray into DVD media got a bit of a drubbing, quality-wise, so maybe they've let things slip.) Taiyo Yuden's always consistently seem to be mentioned at or near the top of the quality leagues, so I just stick with them (mainly I buy DVD media these days, though). Their popularity has usually meant people trying to find re-branded versions of them at cheaper prices. It used to be that Fuji CD-Rs used to be made by Taiyo Yuden and boxed and branded by Fuji, which made them pretty easy to find in retail shops for a while. Better than that, places like Best Buy would often have them on special, so you could buy Taiyo Yuden blanks for really knock down prices. Unfortunately, Fuji moved their disc manufacture to someone else, in Taiwan, and the good times ended. Some manufacturers (fabrication plants) have varied in quality over time, so I guess it's hard to sort out the wheat from the chaff. For example, CMC Magnetics and Ritek used to source for LOADS of brands, and the quality of the discs was terrible. (In fact, Philips threatened Ritek with a cease-and-desist over being able to use the "CD Recordable" logo on their media because it was so poor with regards to the spec.) But, I heard that Ritek, at least, got their act together better and improved quality so they're not so awful as they once were. But, like I said, Taiyo Yuden (remember the "That's" brand of cassettes you used to be able to buy cheap at Richer Sounds?---that's Taiyo Yuden:) consistently get the thumbs up---so much so that there are several "How to spot fake Taiyo Yuden" articles you can search for on the Web. :-) > i buy from svp communications (blankdiscshop) They appear to sell Taiyo Yudens: http://svp.co.uk/products-list.php?bid=29 The good thing about their CD-R listings is they list the manufacturer ID code of the disc, so you can see if your favourite brand is apparently made by Taiyo Yuden. (Unfortunately, this is just what the disc is claiming as the manufacturer, and not necessarily that of the true manufacturer, but usually it is.) I bought my last lot of discs from DVDshoponline: http://www.dvdshoponline.co.uk/Taiyo-Yuden.html Thanks for the SVP nod, though, as I might try them next time. > a commercial re-release of max effect is on the cards soon...maybe Trev, you've just made my day! That's the best news I've heard for a while. Let's hope "maybe" turns into "definitely." Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Tue Feb 12 16:39:30 2008 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:39:30 -0500 Subject: Taiyo Yuden Message-ID: Does anyone know if the Taiyo Yuden discs are "all purpose"? I typically use a component CD burner (audio, not data), which of course will not use data CDRs. John Majka From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 12 17:13:25 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:13:25 -0000 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) Message-ID: valuable info paul, thanks i'm about to order Taiyo Yuden Full-Face Silver Printable 52x CD-R and some taiyo dvds, and some lovely mail envelopes, and some more ink cartridges an ad is coming into my mind involving a samurai warrior and mike coleman, who is playing the part of a taiwanese churl... ..or the battleship yamato, and a taiwanese rowing boat (with mike coleman rowing) hmmmmmmmmmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) > On 12 Feb 2008, at 12:31 PM, trev wrote: > >> hi paul, >> >> i used to use verbatim data life plus. the last lot were on data write >> i burn them one at a time at16 x on a 52 x burner (nero burning rom) >> then print the on-body on an epson photo r265. >> i also print, cut out, assemble the covers by hand >> each cd takes 15 mins to produce, not counting the 20 -30 hours or so >> to, master tracks, design cover etc >> >> the amount i sell on rfm makes it uneconomical to mass-produce >> >> most emergent bands who play at green festivals (real festival music >> bands) find it uneconomical to produce anything but cdrs >> >> i think it's better to sell cdr's than to not have your music heard, >> apart from live performances, which would be the choice for a lot of of >> these bands > > I agree with you entirely. CD-Rs are a great way to beat the economics > of scale that work against you when trying to do pressed CD runs. > Digital downloads are becoming another way for bands to get the music out > there, too, but the infrastructure requirement may be more than emergent > bands can manage. > > I did hear recently of one band selling "instant live"-type recordings at > gigs on USB sticks! (I forget the name of the band.) It's good that > there are different ways of getting the music out there. > >> i'll be buying jap cdrs from now on...are there any other jap branded >> makes that you can recommend. >> cdrs are now so cheap that it's madness to buy any but the best > > I used to buy Mitsui CD-Rs, which used to be the "gold standard" for > CD-Rs, especially Mitsui Golds. But, I don't know if they're still up > there nowadays. (I heard their foray into DVD media got a bit of a > drubbing, quality-wise, so maybe they've let things slip.) > > Taiyo Yuden's always consistently seem to be mentioned at or near the top > of the quality leagues, so I just stick with them (mainly I buy DVD media > these days, though). Their popularity has usually meant people trying to > find re-branded versions of them at cheaper prices. It used to be that > Fuji CD-Rs used to be made by Taiyo Yuden and boxed and branded by Fuji, > which made them pretty easy to find in retail shops for a while. Better > than that, places like Best Buy would often have them on special, so you > could buy Taiyo Yuden blanks for really knock down prices. > Unfortunately, Fuji moved their disc manufacture to someone else, in > Taiwan, and the good times ended. > > Some manufacturers (fabrication plants) have varied in quality over time, > so I guess it's hard to sort out the wheat from the chaff. For example, > CMC Magnetics and Ritek used to source for LOADS of brands, and the > quality of the discs was terrible. (In fact, Philips threatened Ritek > with a cease-and-desist over being able to use the "CD Recordable" logo > on their media because it was so poor with regards to the spec.) But, I > heard that Ritek, at least, got their act together better and improved > quality so they're not so awful as they once were. But, like I said, > Taiyo Yuden (remember the "That's" brand of cassettes you used to be able > to buy cheap at Richer Sounds?---that's Taiyo Yuden:) consistently get > the thumbs up---so much so that there are several "How to spot fake Taiyo > Yuden" articles you can search for on the Web. :-) > >> i buy from svp communications (blankdiscshop) > > They appear to sell Taiyo Yudens: > http://svp.co.uk/products-list.php?bid=29 > > The good thing about their CD-R listings is they list the manufacturer ID > code of the disc, so you can see if your favourite brand is apparently > made by Taiyo Yuden. (Unfortunately, this is just what the disc is > claiming as the manufacturer, and not necessarily that of the true > manufacturer, but usually it is.) > > I bought my last lot of discs from DVDshoponline: > http://www.dvdshoponline.co.uk/Taiyo-Yuden.html > > Thanks for the SVP nod, though, as I might try them next time. > >> a commercial re-release of max effect is on the cards soon...maybe > > Trev, you've just made my day! That's the best news I've heard for a > while. > > Let's hope "maybe" turns into "definitely." > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Feb 12 17:37:18 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:18 -0500 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have a question, or 2, if a CD is burned from another CDR does that make a difference, and does it matter if the copies are made in real time, or faster. I was always under the impression that since it's all digital there should be no loss of info, but a friend claims when someone burns discs at quadruple speed they don't play right? I understand there's generational loss with tapes, but I'd think it would matter digitally? Just wondering. Kaduflyer From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 12 18:10:53 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:10:53 -0000 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) Message-ID: hail mary, before the boffins start, i must say that if you are burning with 7 year old equipment (like mike coleman does) which might have a maximum burning speed of 8x, the 4x might be dodgy. however, nowadays the standard maximum speed for cd burners is around 50x, so... or am i talking about something completely different? mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike colehole colehole dogdick ----- Original Message ----- From: "vzenv14m" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:37 PM Subject: Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) >I have a question, or 2, if a CD is burned from another CDR does that make >a > difference, and does it matter if the copies are made in real time, or > faster. I was always under the impression that since it's all digital > there > should be no loss of info, but a friend claims when someone burns discs at > quadruple speed they don't play right? > I understand there's generational loss with tapes, but I'd think it would > matter digitally? Just wondering. > > Kaduflyer > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 12 18:20:49 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:20:49 -0000 Subject: Shameless Message-ID: for carl anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:31 AM Subject: Re: Shameless > send your request and address to > > judge48 at hotmail.com > > and you will get a new one > > as it says on the website > > no questions asked replacement policy > > this policy doesn't apply to mike coleman > > because it only applies to members of the human race > > hur hur > > jt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:05 PM > Subject: Re: Shameless > > >> On 11 Feb 2008, at 09:51 , The Intelligentsia wrote: >>> please forgive if my old-age, amphetamine cheese-hole'd brain makes a >>> mistake here, but didn't you go off because of a move, >> >> I did. I'm still moved, but less gone off now. :) >> >>> and are you not the >>> one who had an Inner City Unit Max Effect CDR go bad??? >>> if so, funny thing, mine just died >>> Trev was looking for you to replace it >> >> >> I was, yeah! My ICU Maximum Effect CDR, originally purchased from or >> via Trev, I think, was indeed found dead shortly before I left the >> UK. Sorry to hear yours has now keeled over as well -- bummer! If I >> (and you) could somehow get a replacement, that would be awesome. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Feb 12 18:33:30 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:33:30 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12 Feb 2008, at 18:20 , trev wrote: > for carl anderson > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:31 AM > Subject: Re: Shameless >> send your request and address to >> judge48 at hotmail.com >> and you will get a new one Thanks, Trev! Seeking enlightment -- or at least the maximum effect -- I've sent an email off to that address. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 13 02:54:54 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (LSD KILL!! KILL!!!) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:54:54 -0600 Subject: (OFF)Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) Message-ID: no. (in response to Trev's immoral attempt at sexual arousal) not me. sam the movie librarian who _really_ should consider that taking his klonopin could be very beneficial I have passed all this info which everyone here knows I am incapable of understanding to him, in an darkly inspired attempt to make him fearful of his house full of inferior DVD product, since it really doesn't connect up to the UFO subject unless I was to reopen my mind to Philip Corso and if there were any truth therein, and I can't enjoy CDR's without art I was given a loveseat today!!! helps take the sting out of the 3 failed Hawkwind records that arrived and I'll just focus on the 2 sealed perfect ones can a laser turntable be had under 10k? it's late, I should be in bed, it's Mary's fault sure glad I got a cat to sit on the loveseat with me On 2/12/08, trev wrote: > > hail mary, > > before the boffins start, i must say that if you are burning with 7 year > old > equipment (like mike coleman does) which might have a maximum burning > speed > of 8x, the 4x might be dodgy. > however, nowadays the standard maximum speed for cd burners is around 50x, > so... > > or am i talking about something completely different? > > mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike > coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman > mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike colehole > colehole dogdick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "vzenv14m" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) > > > >I have a question, or 2, if a CD is burned from another CDR does that > make > >a > > difference, and does it matter if the copies are made in real time, or > > faster. I was always under the impression that since it's all digital > > there > > should be no loss of info, but a friend claims when someone burns discs > at > > quadruple speed they don't play right? > > I understand there's generational loss with tapes, but I'd think it > would > > matter digitally? Just wondering. > > > > Kaduflyer > > > From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Wed Feb 13 03:07:36 2008 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:07:36 +0000 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) Message-ID: A boffin starts: Data CDs can be copied as many times as you like, and barring failures of your CD drive all the copies will be identical. However audio CDs are not encoded onto the disk in the same way as data CDs. Different CD drives will read the same audio CD and return different data depending on the exact way they process the data on the audio CD. That's one reason why expensive CD players sound better than cheap ones. So if you take an original CD, copy it and burn the copy to a CDR, the copy will be close to the original but not identical. If you make a second generation copy the second copy will be different again, and so on. The recording speed won't make any difference. The difference comes only from the way the electronics in the CD drive extract data from the audio CD. In practice I can't tell the difference between a first and second generation copy on my HiFi. Maybe with a better HiFi (and younger ears!) I could, but I suspect the difference is very small. In any case I generally use MP3s these days, and even though they are allegedly lower quality than CD I can't hear the difference between a CD and an MP3 ripped at 256KHz or greater. Hope this helps more than it confuses! JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: 12 February 2008 23:11 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) hail mary, before the boffins start, i must say that if you are burning with 7 year old equipment (like mike coleman does) which might have a maximum burning speed of 8x, the 4x might be dodgy. however, nowadays the standard maximum speed for cd burners is around 50x, so... or am i talking about something completely different? mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike colehole colehole dogdick ----- Original Message ----- From: "vzenv14m" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:37 PM Subject: Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) >I have a question, or 2, if a CD is burned from another CDR does that make >a > difference, and does it matter if the copies are made in real time, or > faster. I was always under the impression that since it's all digital > there > should be no loss of info, but a friend claims when someone burns discs at > quadruple speed they don't play right? > I understand there's generational loss with tapes, but I'd think it would > matter digitally? Just wondering. > > Kaduflyer > From albert at CELLSUM.COM Wed Feb 13 07:18:31 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:18:31 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: <00c101c86b1f$02202b40$8b00a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: There is a chance but not on this trip. This is a new band so we'll have to see how it goes and if we can we'll be back for a more extensive tour in the fall or sometime next year. Al On Feb 9, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Charles the Grinning Boy wrote: > Paris - this side of the pond. > Any chance of a UK date Albert? It's 3 years since tBS played the > 100 club (3 years, where did the time go?) > > .......Charlie (CtGB) > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "albert bouchard" > > To: > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: Shameless > > > The plan is to resurrect some old SWUB tunes but also to do some new > stuff. Right now we're just doing one SWUB tune but we have a couple > more we're planning on doing. We're going to Paris in March to open > for the Animals and we are only gong to have a half hour to play so we > won't get an opportunity to stretch out until some dates later in the > year. We recorded a song for the M?torhead tribute album (a wild take > on "Back At The Funny Farm") which should also be out in March. We're > also doing some BOC chestnuts so people can hear how BOC might have > sounded if Les hadn't left the group in 1969. We have a myspace page > www.myspace/nderbelly which should have some pix and audio clips soon. > Al > > On Feb 8, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> ] On Behalf Of Albert Bouchard >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:10 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Shameless >> >> In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers >> should know that the ?nderbelly is playing its debut gig this >> Thursday Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The >> address is >> 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. >> >> The ?nderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft >> White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and >> Adrian Romero. >> >> >> Whoa! Time out here. Do you think you can drop a bomb >> like this with no explanation? Details, sir! I take >> it this project will resurrect old SWU tunes, or is it >> new tunes? Please tell us what's up! > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 13 07:19:46 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:19:46 -0000 Subject: (OFF)Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) Message-ID: >mike coleman (rowing boat-load of taiwanese datawrite cds in south china >sea) "well kitty, we sure should make a bundle on this load of sub standard cheap shite" >kitty "miaoooow" >mike coleman "this'll show that BOC lot that i'm a real person living a normal productive life" >kitty "that's what you think" >mike coleman "i'm glad you agree with me" (smiling manically) ..gee what's that little blip on the horizon"? PAN TO BATTLESHIP TAIYO YUDEN (9X18.1 INCH GUNS TRAVERSING ON TO TARGET ROWING BOAT) CUT TO CAPTAIN COLIN ALLEN (THICK LENS SPECTACLES AND OVERSIZED BUCK-TEETH INSERTED) CUT TO CREW OF ENRAGED SAMURAI SEAMEN (MANY FROTHING AT MOUTH, ALL BRANDISHING BIZARRELY-SHAPED CUTTING WEAPONS SHAKING THEM FURIOUSLY) capt colin allen > "oh my sons of rising sun...kill kill kill in name of emperor...kill > americano pig who dare denigrate human life on earth for cheap profit" BOOOOOOOOM (GUNS UNLEASH) CUT TO FROZEN SHOT OF COLEMAN IN ROWING BOAT WITH 12 TONS OF HIGH EXPLOSIVE ORDINANCE 10 FEET ABOVE HEAD. (MANIC GRIN STILL ON FACE...) THE END ----- Original Message ----- From: "LSD KILL!! KILL!!!" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:54 AM Subject: (OFF)Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) > no. (in response to Trev's immoral attempt at sexual arousal) > not me. > sam the movie librarian who _really_ should consider that taking his > klonopin could be very beneficial > I have passed all this info which everyone here knows I am incapable of > understanding to him, in an darkly inspired attempt to make him fearful of > his house full of inferior DVD product, since it really doesn't connect up > to the UFO subject unless I was to reopen my mind to Philip Corso and if > there were any truth therein, and I can't enjoy CDR's without art > I was given a loveseat today!!! helps take the sting out of the 3 failed > Hawkwind records that arrived and I'll just focus on the 2 sealed perfect > ones > can a laser turntable be had under 10k? > it's late, I should be in bed, it's Mary's fault > sure glad I got a cat to sit on the loveseat with me > > On 2/12/08, trev wrote: >> >> hail mary, >> >> before the boffins start, i must say that if you are burning with 7 year >> old >> equipment (like mike coleman does) which might have a maximum burning >> speed >> of 8x, the 4x might be dodgy. >> however, nowadays the standard maximum speed for cd burners is around >> 50x, >> so... >> >> or am i talking about something completely different? >> >> mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike >> coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman >> mike coleman mike coleman mike coleman mike colehole >> colehole dogdick >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "vzenv14m" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:37 PM >> Subject: Re: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) >> >> >> >I have a question, or 2, if a CD is burned from another CDR does that >> make >> >a >> > difference, and does it matter if the copies are made in real time, or >> > faster. I was always under the impression that since it's all digital >> > there >> > should be no loss of info, but a friend claims when someone burns discs >> at >> > quadruple speed they don't play right? >> > I understand there's generational loss with tapes, but I'd think it >> would >> > matter digitally? Just wondering. >> > >> > Kaduflyer >> > >> > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Feb 13 10:49:50 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:49:50 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops w/ Backyard: Just 2 days away!!!! 2/15 Message-ID: One Eyed Bishops w/ Backyard: This Friday night 2/15!!! One Eyed Bishops w/ Backyard 1 nite of great music!!! Body: 02/15/2008 08:00 PM - Barrington Coffeehouse 131 Clements Bridge Rd. Barrington, New Jersey 08007 Description:special acoustic show with guest vocalist ?Stewkey? of NAZZ. Check out: www.Barringtoncoffeehouse.com Backyard is a great band from South Jersey. They play a nice mixture of classic music..check them out at: www.myspace.com/backyardmusic OEB lineup at this time: Mike Burro : guitars/vocalsStewkey ( of NAZZ ) vocalssee: www.myspace.com/Nazzfeaturingstewkey _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 14 07:01:03 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:01:03 -0600 Subject: HW spanish psi-power/the head of RFM/kollektorpost Message-ID: I've just put down the phone from Sheffield confirming I've just got a spanish psi-power pic sleeve 45 my sources tell me this single is about number 4 in rarity with HW singles- I'd be curious on others opinions I can't believe the shame, none of you buying the Japanese Doremi I put a link up to you see, when you get items like that, you become a "lord of the hornets", so to speak- better than money in the bank I bet if I asked Mary to send that data to the Yahoo list they'd be scooped away see, I could just call Mary and issue a command with my megaphone to the Yahoo list, with say, just one of about 4 HW items I have, and request "bring me the head of Trev Thoms", and surely in no time, I'd have his head, and his guitars, in a trade the sick truth of life is great isn't it!!!!!! weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 14 09:27:05 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:27:05 GMT Subject: HW spanish psi-power/the head of RFM/kollektorpost In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:01:03 -0600 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > I've just put down the phone from Sheffield confirming I've just got a > spanish psi-power pic sleeve 45 Bastid! If you ever find it has a little brother... > my sources tell me this single is about number 4 in rarity with HW singles- > I'd be curious on others opinions > I can't believe the shame, none of you buying the Japanese Doremi I put a > link up to I have some sort of Japanese Doremi somewhere. Both LP and CD. Do let us know of other rarities you spot. You seem to have a remarkable talent for sniffing these out... FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 14 10:40:21 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:40:21 -0600 Subject: HW spanish psi-power/the head of RFM/kollektorpost In-Reply-To: <200802141427.m1EER5Ym014056@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 2/14/08, M Holmes: "Bastid! If you ever find it has a little brother.".. *Mike, I got you one didn't I??? at any rate, I am giving SERIOUS consideration to making a photcopy like I used to have, and just putting it with a stock USA 45, since I have an affinity for Hawkmerch from my own UFO alpha-base 1.* *I can say that things which would SERIOUSLY SWAY me would be like* *1) a USA Promo Warrior with the Orange sticker in a mint or near mint jacket, LP itself unimportant* *2) The Uk foldout Warrior WITHOUT the hair (77 press I presume)* *3) A colored Sonic Attack to replace the one I had, don't care if it's a pirate, it played better than any of the kijillion black ones I had, and I had MINT* *4) any still sealed records, etc* *I aM LOOKING FORWARD TO ELI FRIEDMAN'S 45 LIST, THERE MAY BE SOME NICE THINGS THERE* *YOU KNOW AS i TYPE i AM WONDERING IF THE _KNOWN_ LARGEST HW COLLECTOR GOT MY YUGOSLAVIAN RECORD CLUB PRESS OF SILVER MACHINE???* *5) A MINT FRENCH HASSAN- THIS IS MY "PROBLEM CHILD"* "I have some sort of Japanese Doremi somewhere. Both LP and CD." *WHILE THE ORIGINAL COPY IS THE ONE TO HAVE, WITH IT'S INDESTRUCTABLE JACKET AND HEAVY VINYL, I HAD A CONVERSTION WITH A CERTAIN FRIEND OF DAVE BROCK'S ABOUT THIS, WHO, LIKE MYSELF, LIKES ACTUAL RECORDS, AND HE DISAGREED WITH MY THINKING THE REISSUE HAD THE BEST SONIC SOUND- THE RESISSUE IS IN A SINGLE SLEEVE, HAS NO GATEFOLD, NOR COOL BOOKLET, HOWEVER BOTH PICK UP THE TRACK SILVER MACHINE IF MY MEMORY HAS ANY "UMPH" LEFT (the one I sent a link to is the original, which will have heavier bass)* "Do let us know of other rarities you spot. You seem to have a remarkable talent for sniffing these out..." *THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLEMENT MIKE* FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 14 10:49:36 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:49:36 -0600 Subject: HW spanish psi-power/the head of RFM/kollektorpost In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802140740y3382ff6bgd67439ce8eda4e78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: oh lord, sorry another, but number 5 should : "a mint ITALIAN Hassan".....like I really expect to get anywhere with this, but I hate being in error, printwise to make this post useful: the original alien abduction culprit of 1961 in the New Hampshire White Mountains was seen on military radars it's getting time to rip this world upside down for better or worse, I'm sick of the matrix On 2/14/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 2/14/08, M Holmes: > "Bastid! If you ever find it has a little brother.".. > *Mike, I got you one didn't I??? at any rate, I am giving SERIOUS > consideration to making a photcopy like I used to have, and just putting it > with a stock USA 45, since I have an affinity for Hawkmerch from my own UFO > alpha-base 1.* > *I can say that things which would SERIOUSLY SWAY me would be like* > *1) a USA Promo Warrior with the Orange sticker in a mint or near mint > jacket, LP itself unimportant* > *2) The Uk foldout Warrior WITHOUT the hair (77 press I presume)* > *3) A colored Sonic Attack to replace the one I had, don't care if it's a > pirate, it played better than any of the kijillion black ones I had, and I > had MINT* > *4) any still sealed records, etc* > *I aM LOOKING FORWARD TO ELI FRIEDMAN'S 45 LIST, THERE MAY BE SOME NICE > THINGS THERE* > *YOU KNOW AS i TYPE i AM WONDERING IF THE _KNOWN_ LARGEST HW COLLECTOR GOT > MY YUGOSLAVIAN RECORD CLUB PRESS OF SILVER MACHINE???* > *5) A MINT FRENCH HASSAN- THIS IS MY "PROBLEM CHILD"* > "I have some sort of Japanese Doremi somewhere. Both LP and CD." > *WHILE THE ORIGINAL COPY IS THE ONE TO HAVE, WITH IT'S INDESTRUCTABLE > JACKET AND HEAVY VINYL, I HAD A CONVERSTION WITH A CERTAIN FRIEND OF DAVE > BROCK'S ABOUT THIS, WHO, LIKE MYSELF, LIKES ACTUAL RECORDS, AND HE DISAGREED > WITH MY THINKING THE REISSUE HAD THE BEST SONIC SOUND- THE RESISSUE IS IN A > SINGLE SLEEVE, HAS NO GATEFOLD, NOR COOL BOOKLET, HOWEVER BOTH PICK UP THE > TRACK SILVER MACHINE IF MY MEMORY HAS ANY "UMPH" LEFT (the one I sent a link > to is the original, which will have heavier bass)* > > "Do let us know of other rarities you spot. You seem to have a remarkable > talent for sniffing these out..." > *THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLEMENT MIKE* > FoFP > > > From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Thu Feb 14 15:01:53 2008 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:01:53 +0800 Subject: HW spanish psi-power/the head of RFM/kollektorpost Message-ID: > Do let us know of other rarities you spot. You seem > to have a remarkable talent for sniffing these out... > > FoFP Iranian silver Machine - http://cgi.ebay.com/Hawkwind-silver-seven-IRAN-PRESS-diff- Royal-label-7-PS_W0QQitemZ190198871800QQihZ009QQcategoryZ3 06QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com Powered by Outblaze From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 14 15:50:14 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:50:14 -0600 Subject: HW spanish psi-power/the head of RFM/kollektorpost In-Reply-To: <20080214200156.2D307CBE76@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: *Most excellent Visionary Head* *what a wonderful item that I wish I could get, but since I cannot, I throw up some hopefully encouraging news:* *there has actually been a few of these turn up over the last year or so, and the 3 dangerous people with whom you would not want to compete already paid their fortunes and this one may be obtainable.* *As for myself, I want an Angola Silver Machine and if that turns up I will get on the red phone to Muenster in less time than my best snipe* *somebody come off some Mexican Hawkwind singles would you??, that would be well good!!* *as for this Iranian jobber, may some good fan LSD KILL!! KILL!!! it* On 2/14/08, Visionary Head wrote: > > > Do let us know of other rarities you spot. You seem > > to have a remarkable talent for sniffing these out... > > > > FoFP > > Iranian silver Machine - > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Hawkwind-silver-seven-IRAN-PRESS-diff- > Royal-label-7-PS_W0QQitemZ190198871800QQihZ009QQcategoryZ3 > 06QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com > > Powered by Outblaze > From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Thu Feb 14 18:09:35 2008 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (David Adams) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:09:35 -0000 Subject: Extra long Sunday Space rock this week,. packed with goodies Message-ID: Sunday 7pm GMT www.banburymusicradio.com An extra hour this week to fit in music from: APS, Nanobots, Neu, Anubis, Alien Dream, Druid's Keep, Omnia Opera, Humanoid, Absinthe House and more. Special air play of tracks from the new Earth Born album and Danny Faulkner on the phone ahead of the imminent release of the new Pre Med album, air play of tracks from that too. Plus!! Cyndee Lee Rule on the phone and lots of Cyndee Viperized tunes. You would be mad to miss it!! Sunday night is Space rock night From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 15 04:49:03 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:49:03 +0000 Subject: HW: (off) Litmus at the Bull and Gate - January 25th In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 04:06:47PM -0000, trev typed out: > Naaaaa John, I doubt very much if anyone will be there....you see, Judge > Trev and Kev Ellis are gigging at the Horse and Groom, Islingword Road, > Brighton on the same night AGAIN. > > This happened before..a couple of months ago and while we pulled an > audience of between 4-5 thousand, Litmus did manage to pull 2 passers by in > because they were drunk. You must have bust the doors of your venue off, then, because Litmus had pleasantly close to a full house. I was trying to do too many things with the night, and only arrived at about nine, by which time, I soon learnt, that they had been playing for about an hour and had broken the snare drum. It didn't seem to slow them down; Marek was using an extra tom for the time being and it gave his drums a very martial sort of crack. The replacement snare, when Colin bravely fetched it, wasn't quite as distinctive. The band had kept most of their new material for the second half of the set, so other than one of the best versions of `Under the Sign' I can remember (though, it must be admitted, I was already cheerfully drunk and probably more forgiving than usual) I mostly saw songs I didn't know. I did however steal the set-list off the stage (no-one seemed to want it) so can tell you that the whole thing went: Temple Twinstar Earthbound Evil You Are Here Infinity Drive Dreams of Space Sonic Light (Theta Wave) Inductor Mothership Tempest Under the Sign Helios Astronomy Domine Kings of Infinite Space `Masson Riff' Endless Skies Right Stuff Hero With a Wing Ejection I came in mid-way through `Tempest', and so there was an awful lot that I missed which I'd rather not have, but what I saw was between good and absolutely bloody electric. In particular, the `Astronomy Domine', which I'd have thought the lack of a keyboardist (still) would prevent, was downright head-melting, and Simon's guitar work deserves maximum credit for his effectively taking up the space of two instruments without resorting to widdling. Martin was in fact playing a keyboard, set up in the dark behind Anton, during `Helios', and I thought that was a good (if slightly HW!) compromise, which might let them resurrect `Planetfall' (though I guess Simon might have to take the keyboard part) and maybe other things. Otherwise, the final triplet was complete fan service really, but I never ever expected to see `Hero With a Wing' done live, and I'm not sure it can be done as anything more than a special treat for people who know the Captain Lockheed album backwards, but on that level it was very rewarding. The new stuff, despite my forgiving mood, didn't grab me as much as it might have; `Kings of Infinite Space' could teeter towards being a "power ballad" like `Lost Stations' or it could become an epic piledriver and I don't think this is worked out yet. The thing on the set-list as `Masson Riff', which I'm guessing won't be its final title, is really quite a lot like a second take at `(Theta Wave) Inductor', which keeps me happy as a concert-goer but doesn't really stand out as new development of the genre. It's probably the best new thing that I saw, however, and it would be unfair to say there's not good stuff in the brew; it's just not as shockingly brilliant as `Mothership' and `Under the Sign' and indeed `Far Beyond' were when I first heard them. I hope there is stuff like that to come though, and on the showing of this gig I'll certainly be out the front waiting for it to hit me. > why why oh why does their manager "Colin of the Yamato" (who is also a > traitor to the empire) repeatedly ensure that their gigs are completely > empty because they coincide with the magnificent performances of the mighty > Judge Trev. Well *quite*. How are they supposed to turn up and worship, after all? > You see, they are far too young to have any sex appeal like wot i ave - an > essential in the space rock community...cough! > > jt (57) > > THE BUS PASS COMETH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May it be like the gasman, ever threatened but never actually present, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 15 08:12:05 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:12:05 EST Subject: Pre Med Interview NOW... Message-ID: On Island FM _http://www.islandfm.com/_ (http://www.islandfm.com/) This may cause the whole of the internet to crash as a certain Mr Davey is involved. We shall see... Steve. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Feb 15 10:06:02 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:06:02 -0000 Subject: HW: (off) Litmus at the Bull and Gate - January 25th Message-ID: if only it was only the doors which were busted off...windows...most of the fixtures and fittings...not to mention the casualties...oh rock and roll you have much to answer for...ghasp! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" To: Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: HW: (off) Litmus at the Bull and Gate - January 25th > On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 04:06:47PM -0000, trev typed out: >> Naaaaa John, I doubt very much if anyone will be there....you see, Judge >> Trev and Kev Ellis are gigging at the Horse and Groom, Islingword Road, >> Brighton on the same night AGAIN. >> >> This happened before..a couple of months ago and while we pulled an >> audience of between 4-5 thousand, Litmus did manage to pull 2 passers by >> in >> because they were drunk. > > You must have bust the doors of your venue off, then, because > Litmus had pleasantly close to a full house. > > I was trying to do too many things with the night, and only > arrived at about nine, by which time, I soon learnt, that they had been > playing for about an hour and had broken the snare drum. It didn't seem > to slow them down; Marek was using an extra tom for the time being and > it gave his drums a very martial sort of crack. The replacement snare, > when Colin bravely fetched it, wasn't quite as distinctive. > > The band had kept most of their new material for the second half > of the set, so other than one of the best versions of `Under the Sign' I > can remember (though, it must be admitted, I was already cheerfully > drunk and probably more forgiving than usual) I mostly saw songs I > didn't know. I did however steal the set-list off the stage (no-one > seemed to want it) so can tell you that the whole thing went: > > Temple > Twinstar > Earthbound > Evil > You Are Here > Infinity Drive > Dreams of Space > Sonic Light > (Theta Wave) Inductor > Mothership > Tempest > Under the Sign > Helios > Astronomy Domine > Kings of Infinite Space > `Masson Riff' > Endless Skies > Right Stuff > Hero With a Wing > Ejection > > I came in mid-way through `Tempest', and so there was an awful > lot that I missed which I'd rather not have, but what I saw was between > good and absolutely bloody electric. In particular, the `Astronomy > Domine', which I'd have thought the lack of a keyboardist (still) would > prevent, was downright head-melting, and Simon's guitar work deserves > maximum credit for his effectively taking up the space of two > instruments without resorting to widdling. Martin was in fact playing a > keyboard, set up in the dark behind Anton, during `Helios', and I > thought that was a good (if slightly HW!) compromise, which might let > them resurrect `Planetfall' (though I guess Simon might have to take the > keyboard part) and maybe other things. Otherwise, the final triplet was > complete fan service really, but I never ever expected to see `Hero With > a Wing' done live, and I'm not sure it can be done as anything more than > a special treat for people who know the Captain Lockheed album > backwards, but on that level it was very rewarding. > > The new stuff, despite my forgiving mood, didn't grab me as much > as it might have; `Kings of Infinite Space' could teeter towards being a > "power ballad" like `Lost Stations' or it could become an epic > piledriver and I don't think this is worked out yet. The thing on the > set-list as `Masson Riff', which I'm guessing won't be its final title, > is really quite a lot like a second take at `(Theta Wave) Inductor', > which keeps me happy as a concert-goer but doesn't really stand out as > new development of the genre. It's probably the best new thing that I > saw, however, and it would be unfair to say there's not good stuff in > the brew; it's just not as shockingly brilliant as `Mothership' and > `Under the Sign' and indeed `Far Beyond' were when I first heard them. I > hope there is stuff like that to come though, and on the showing of this > gig I'll certainly be out the front waiting for it to hit me. > >> why why oh why does their manager "Colin of the Yamato" (who is also a >> traitor to the empire) repeatedly ensure that their gigs are completely >> empty because they coincide with the magnificent performances of the >> mighty >> Judge Trev. > > Well *quite*. How are they supposed to turn up and worship, > after all? > >> You see, they are far too young to have any sex appeal like wot i ave - >> an >> essential in the space rock community...cough! >> >> jt (57) >> >> THE BUS PASS COMETH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > May it be like the gasman, ever threatened but never actually > present, yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 15 11:59:14 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:59:14 EST Subject: Save Planet Rock Message-ID: OK, I know that petitions don't mean much in most cases. It's money that talks, but in this case I've put my name to it. Go to this link and add yours as well and supprt rock music. _http://www.youchoose.net/campaign/save_planet_rock_ (http://www.youchoose.net/campaign/save_planet_rock) Thanks, Steve. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 15 12:07:22 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:07:22 GMT Subject: Save Planet Rock In-Reply-To: StevePXR5@AOL.COM's message of Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:59:14 EST Message-ID: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > OK, I know that petitions don't mean much in most cases. Heh. When Downing Street started its people's petitions website, I started a couple, and signed up for around fifty of 'em. I now get a steady stream of email telling me that the government has read the petition and intends to do bugger all about it. I really do get the feeling that they don't realise that they are working for *us*. FoFP From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Feb 15 15:54:13 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:54:13 -0500 Subject: Extra long Sunday Space rock this week,. packed with goodies In-Reply-To: <001001c86f5e$aaa072f0$0200a8c0@yourr50edlrte1> Message-ID: Hi Dave, I'll be tuned in, so it better be good, (ha, ha). I'm really looking forward to the segment with Cyndee, we've written a bit off list, I'm really glad it's a longer show and am looking forward to it, very much. When you can, please play some Neu for me, just try to let me know in advance. I'm curious about them, since I know Dave was involved with mixing them, (was that it), and I know he likes them, he told me so. No pressure, really, just a request. Did Roye from Nektar contact you? He said he will. Rock on, to the best D.J. in space, Kaduflyer P.S. To all you other cyber d.j.'s like Jerry kranitz and others, I think you're also doing a wonderful job turning us all on to new sonic vibrations, Thanks I can tell you put a lot of thought behind your shows. I like the style of Dave's show, between the interviews, and talking to the audience, it's like progressive radio used to be. Thanks to all of you for putting together such fine shows. I'm out there listening. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Feb 15 15:54:14 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:54:14 -0500 Subject: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows In-Reply-To: <1JNsWn-1Cbkie0@fwd33.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Hi Bernhard, Well put, and I agree, I'm always interested in getting a new live recording, but I also hope more older material surfaces, especially from '75, the trouble with a lot of the earlier recordings is quality, but I'd think with all that can be done with computers, they can be cleaned up a lot. Your friend, Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 16 03:50:50 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:50:50 -0600 Subject: (OFF/HW-related) I've been ripped off/ help me or kick me Message-ID: [Post removed with the author's permission] From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Feb 16 06:21:41 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:21:41 +0100 Subject: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi again Mary I also hope to see some "new" old material turning up I suppose there are lot of fans with recordings out there who have not contact to other fans or Hawkwind discussion groups Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of vzenv14m Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:54 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows Hi Bernhard, Well put, and I agree, I'm always interested in getting a new live recording, but I also hope more older material surfaces, especially from '75, the trouble with a lot of the earlier recordings is quality, but I'd think with all that can be done with computers, they can be cleaned up a lot. Your friend, Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 16 07:24:55 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Kitty Clumps AHHH) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:24:55 -0600 Subject: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows In-Reply-To: <1JQL5U-1HL9u40@fwd33.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: *If the past has any bearing on the future, I seriously doubt anyone would have more than you Bernhard,,,,,,* *I remember.....* *cheers* *mc* On 2/16/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > Hi again Mary > > I also hope to see some "new" old material turning up > > I suppose there are lot of fans with recordings out there who have not > contact to other fans or Hawkwind discussion groups > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of vzenv14m > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:54 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows > > Hi Bernhard, > Well put, and I agree, I'm always interested in getting a new live > recording, but I also hope more older material surfaces, especially from > '75, the trouble with a lot of the earlier recordings is quality, but I'd > think with all that can be done with computers, they can be cleaned up a > lot. > > Your friend, > > Kaduflyer > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Feb 16 07:30:34 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:30:34 +0100 Subject: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802160424j5a4c3ebged0e4eac3654db0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike My intention is to motivate all the other list members to keep their eyes open like I did and still do. Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Kitty Clumps AHHH Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:25 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows *If the past has any bearing on the future, I seriously doubt anyone would have more than you Bernhard,,,,,,* *I remember.....* *cheers* *mc* On 2/16/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > Hi again Mary > > I also hope to see some "new" old material turning up > > I suppose there are lot of fans with recordings out there who have not > contact to other fans or Hawkwind discussion groups > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of vzenv14m > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:54 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows > > Hi Bernhard, > Well put, and I agree, I'm always interested in getting a new live > recording, but I also hope more older material surfaces, especially > from '75, the trouble with a lot of the earlier recordings is quality, > but I'd think with all that can be done with computers, they can be > cleaned up a lot. > > Your friend, > > Kaduflyer > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 16 08:07:02 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:07:02 -0600 Subject: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows In-Reply-To: <1JQMA9-0zNTpQ0@fwd35.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: *do it brother* *keep the faith as I strongly believe there are things out there* *I want to make a crazy statement: supposedly the date 2013 is now a significant one, and the scientific community is expected to take many suicides* ps-putting hot chocolate powder in my coffee may be a bad idea On 2/16/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > Hi Mike > > My intention is to motivate all the other list members to keep their eyes > open like I did and still do. > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Kitty Clumps AHHH > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:25 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows > > *If the past has any bearing on the future, I seriously doubt anyone would > have more than you Bernhard,,,,,,* *I remember.....* > *cheers* > *mc* > > > On 2/16/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > > > Hi again Mary > > > > I also hope to see some "new" old material turning up > > > > I suppose there are lot of fans with recordings out there who have not > > contact to other fans or Hawkwind discussion groups > > > > > > Cheers > > Bernhard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > > On > > Behalf Of vzenv14m > > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:54 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: Open letter / Trading Hawkwind live-shows > > > > Hi Bernhard, > > Well put, and I agree, I'm always interested in getting a new live > > recording, but I also hope more older material surfaces, especially > > from '75, the trouble with a lot of the earlier recordings is quality, > > but I'd think with all that can be done with computers, they can be > > cleaned up a lot. > > > > Your friend, > > > > Kaduflyer > > > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 17 05:43:45 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:43:45 +0000 Subject: OFFish - E-Bay - Anubian Lights / New Worlds Fair Message-ID: Hope no-one minds but thought I'd let you know that I have put 2 Anubian Lights CD's up on e-bay as well as my Griffin box set of Moorcock's New World's Fair. I also have the following vinyl for sale which I'd rather do off line as I have had bad experiences selling vinyl via e-bay with one person buying stuff and sending back what clearly were not my copies. British Tribal Music - probably played once Stonehenge '83 - very good condition and I think I have played it twice. Lloyd Langton Group - Dreams that fade away 12" single Lloyd Langton Group - Time Space and LLG (US version) Lloyd Langton Group - Night Air Lloyd Langton Group - Like an Arrow Lloyd Langton Group - Outside The Law with 7" single (I have 2 copies of this - one with very good sleeve one with some scuffing of the sleeve) Lloyd Langton Group - Wind of Change 7" single with pic sleeve. Steve Swindells - Fresh Blood. As said hope no-one minds this mail - please contact me off line at stevefreight at gmail.com if interested in any of the above with your offer. Please also let me know your country so I can get a price for postage. Many thanks. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Sun Feb 17 07:28:42 2008 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (David Adams) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:28:42 -0000 Subject: An extra hour of Sunday Space Rock tonight Message-ID: Yep, an extra hour of the best Space Rock music from around the world. Interviews with Danny Faulkner and Cyndee Lee Rule. Loads of great tunes from the lkikes of, Leviathan, APS, Omnia Opera, Neu, Spirits Burning (from the new album Earthborn) and loads more!! 7pm til 10pm www.banburymusicradio.com The only place to be on a Sunday night From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Feb 17 09:25:05 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:25:05 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Carl, Nice to see a posting from you again. I've missed hearing from you. Kaduflyer From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 17 09:57:15 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:57:15 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP Message-ID: Re my previous mail For those interested and in answer to a few queries this is an album pressed in Yugoslavia of Stonehenge 22nd June 1983. It has a white label and is in good condition with a couple of surface marks. Tracks are Side 1 (22'31") Utopia / Psycehdelic Warlords / Motorway City Side 2 (22'38") Ejection / Shot Down In the Night / Master of the Universe / Spirit of The Age (which if memory serves right cuts off mid song) Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 17 11:10:16 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:10:16 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: isn't that actaully another of Ande's handiwork?? does anybody know how I can get in touch with him, man that would be great (Ande Tucker, should be in California still I presume??) I just had a great reuniting with some an old friend (lurking here) due to my ripoff post so it seems you never know what good is to come from bad BUT I heard Steven Skane from the Yahoo list is no longer with us apparently gone in the same manner as Larry Boyd this is terrible beyond beyond beyond beyond *NO MORE DEATH NO MORE DEATH NO MORE DEATH* also, wasn't this LP a 500 run?? should be wortha penny now ther are some super rare 45's on the horizon!!!!!! mike c On 2/17/08, Steve Freight wrote: > > Re my previous mail > > For those interested and in answer to a few queries this is an album > pressed > in Yugoslavia of Stonehenge 22nd June 1983. It has a white label and is in > good condition with a couple of surface marks. Tracks are > > Side 1 (22'31") Utopia / Psycehdelic Warlords / Motorway City > Side 2 (22'38") Ejection / Shot Down In the Night / Master of the Universe > / > Spirit of The Age (which if memory serves right cuts off mid song) > > Steve > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 17 11:15:55 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:15:55 -0600 Subject: (OFF-HW related) to Steve Freight Message-ID: Dear Steve I am mailing you on-forum because there was an apparent problem with my mail direct to you I just wonder if you'd consider trading any odd CD's I may have for some of your Langton LP's, I can guess not but have to ask bacause I am a serious addict I can't buy anything at the moment because I need to eat once for every 20 times my cat does my email, in case you can mail me insect.brain at gmail.com thank you mike coleman ps-THANK YOU SISTER MARE MARE, regardless From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 17 12:10:48 2008 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (EliPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:10:48 EST Subject: (off) Spam-Ultra rare Hawkwind 45 collection for sale Message-ID: Hi Hawkfans. Sorry to spam you all again, but I'm unloading a bunch of rare 45's from my collection on the market. I thought I would offer them up here to the real fans prior to posting what remains on Ebay. Conditions are mostly very good to mint. The Japanese Urban Guerilla looks like it was purchased yesterday and delivered from 1972 via time machine. Seriously. Please feel free to ask about condition on specific items you may be interested in. Email me offlist at EliPXR5 at aol.com with any offers or questions. Thanks for checking them out. Okay I got these Flicknifers with picture sleeves Zarozinia Motorway City Night of the Hawks Who's Gonna Win The War RCA picture sleeves Angels of Death Silver Mahine w/Psy Warlords Bronze Shot Down In The Night picture sleeve German Quark picture sleeve German and Dutch Silver Machine w/ Urban Guerrila nice picture sleeves French and Portugal Kings of Speed with wicked nice picture sleeves German and Britishr Back on the Streets pic sleeves Silver Machine with picture sleeves Japan, Spain, Yugoslavia, Portugal, Israel, Germany, and Holland (magenta color variation) Urban Guerrila with picture sleeves France, Portugal, Italy, Germany, and Japan (this Japanese single is very rare. So rare that according to kollector guru Mike Coleman its not included in the Hawkwind Illustrated Collector's Guide book because they couldn't find a copy. Its got a gorgeous color wrap around glossy paper sleeve with a beautiful Space Ritual era posed band photo including Stacia in white face make-up, and is in mint condition) picture disk Silver Machine/ 7 X 7 Liberty (beautiful art) Brock Social alliance picture disc and picture sleeve versions Calvert Ejection picture sleeve and plain black sleeve versions Calvert Lord of the Hornets picture sleeve Cricket Star flexidisc Moorcock Dodgem Dude picture sleeve That's what I'm offering. Please check about specific conditions as some things are less than mint. And if some one were to make a decent offer I'd sell the lot as a whole, and someone would have an awesome 45's collection in one buy. Thanks, all Eli Friedman Thanks Mike Coleman for the input and info ************** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Sun Feb 17 14:04:54 2008 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:04:54 EST Subject: HW spanish psi-power/the head of RFM/kollektorpost Message-ID: HI Mike - just picked up this thread, appreciate it's a couple of days old now; but, where does the Paul Anka single feature in the rarity lists..........? Remember that one? Cheers - Martin. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 17 14:13:55 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:13:55 -0600 Subject: HW spanish psi-power/the head of RFM/kollektorpost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've not forgotten (you) Martin would that be the psychedelic warlords one we discussed if so, maybe one of the "unplaceables" you're maybe the only known possessor otherwise I do not remember that, it's beyond my scope cheers On 2/17/08, Martin Hutchby wrote: > > HI Mike - just picked up this thread, appreciate it's a couple of days old > now; but, where does the Paul Anka single feature in the rarity > lists..........? Remember that one? > Cheers - Martin. > > > > > From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Sun Feb 17 19:08:04 2008 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:08:04 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP Message-ID: > isn't that actaully another of Ande's handiwork?? > does anybody know how I can get in touch with him, man that would be great > (Ande Tucker, should be in California still I presume??) > I just had a great reuniting with some an old friend (lurking here) due to > my ripoff post so it seems you never know what good is to come from bad > BUT > I heard Steven Skane from the Yahoo list is no longer with us apparently > gone in the same manner as Larry Boyd > this is terrible beyond beyond beyond beyond *NO MORE DEATH NO MORE DEATH NO > MORE DEATH* > also, wasn't this LP a 500 run?? should be wortha penny now > ther are some super rare 45's on the horizon!!!!!! > mike c I think you'll find Stonehenge was done by a guy called Dave Robinson who use to run Heartbeat Records in Horsham, West Sussex. There were 1,000 pressed. Dave also did the Glasgow "Golden Void" album. Except there, he pressed up 500 copies and made 1,000 sleeves, and once the first 500 sold, he made 500 more records. Just so you are in full possession of the facts. Peace VH -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com Powered by Outblaze From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 17 20:22:57 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:22:57 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: <20080218000804.C2239233BE@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: *absolutely corrected I am* *I just recall getting the golden void (which is in fact the LP cover I was remembering here, although I know they both came from the same place), from Ande when he still lived in England* *glad he is off the hook on that actaully, as I felt a little bad having connected him* *thank you* *mike* *again, please, if anyone has a contact point on Ande, please provide, I am certain he wouldn't mind* *peace indeed!!!* *ps-I wonder if he's (Ande) still got anything stashed at his mom's (in England) lol!!* On 2/17/08, Visionary Head wrote: > > > isn't that actaully another of Ande's handiwork?? > > does anybody know how I can get in touch with him, man that would be > great > > (Ande Tucker, should be in California still I presume??) > > I just had a great reuniting with some an old friend (lurking here) due > to > > my ripoff post so it seems you never know what good is to come from bad > > BUT > > I heard Steven Skane from the Yahoo list is no longer with us apparently > > gone in the same manner as Larry Boyd > > this is terrible beyond beyond beyond beyond *NO MORE DEATH NO MORE > DEATH NO > > MORE DEATH* > > also, wasn't this LP a 500 run?? should be wortha penny now > > ther are some super rare 45's on the horizon!!!!!! > > mike c > > > I think you'll find Stonehenge was done by a guy called Dave Robinson who > use to run Heartbeat Records in Horsham, West Sussex. There were 1,000 > pressed. Dave also did the Glasgow "Golden Void" album. Except there, he > pressed up 500 copies and made 1,000 sleeves, and once the first 500 sold, > he made 500 more records. > > Just so you are in full possession of the facts. > > Peace > > VH > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com > > Powered by Outblaze > From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Sun Feb 17 20:42:08 2008 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:42:08 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP Message-ID: I think I might have Ande's address, as he sent me some records last year I believe.... John Majka > *absolutely corrected I am* > *I just recall getting the golden void (which is in fact the LP cover I > was > remembering here, although I know they both came from the same place), > from > Ande when he still lived in England* > *glad he is off the hook on that actaully, as I felt a little bad having > connected him* > *thank you* > *mike* > *again, please, if anyone has a contact point on Ande, please provide, I > am > certain he wouldn't mind* > *peace indeed!!!* > *ps-I wonder if he's (Ande) still got anything stashed at his mom's (in > England) lol!!* > > > > On 2/17/08, Visionary Head wrote: >> >> > isn't that actaully another of Ande's handiwork?? >> > does anybody know how I can get in touch with him, man that would be >> great >> > (Ande Tucker, should be in California still I presume??) >> > I just had a great reuniting with some an old friend (lurking here) due >> to >> > my ripoff post so it seems you never know what good is to come from bad >> > BUT >> > I heard Steven Skane from the Yahoo list is no longer with us >> > apparently >> > gone in the same manner as Larry Boyd >> > this is terrible beyond beyond beyond beyond *NO MORE DEATH NO MORE >> DEATH NO >> > MORE DEATH* >> > also, wasn't this LP a 500 run?? should be wortha penny now >> > ther are some super rare 45's on the horizon!!!!!! >> > mike c >> >> >> I think you'll find Stonehenge was done by a guy called Dave Robinson who >> use to run Heartbeat Records in Horsham, West Sussex. There were 1,000 >> pressed. Dave also did the Glasgow "Golden Void" album. Except there, he >> pressed up 500 copies and made 1,000 sleeves, and once the first 500 >> sold, >> he made 500 more records. >> >> Just so you are in full possession of the facts. >> >> Peace >> >> VH >> >> -- >> _______________________________________________ >> Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com >> >> Powered by Outblaze >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 17 21:02:54 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:02:54 -0600 Subject: (OFF)(was)Hawkwind Stonhenge LP(now) Ande T Message-ID: On 2/17/08, John Majka wrote: > > I think I might have Ande's address, as he sent me some records last year > I > believe.... > John Majka *I just pulled out the old bag of bus. cards I kept, and found his- he was the only HW person I spoke to when living at my first apartment of terror- trying to remember how that came about- * *the address I have would be his girlfriend Amy's, in Fountain Valley CA.......I went to call him only to discover my card has only 4 mins.....ahhhh* *I have an email on him with Neptune in it, but could that still be good* *oh lord could he possibly still have the French Hassan???? * *anyway John, if anything I just said doesn't match, please bring me up* *thanks* *mike* From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 18 06:12:37 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:12:37 GMT Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:10:16 -0600 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > isn't that actaully another of Ande's handiwork?? Really??? he never mentioned that back in the day I was in touch with him. > does anybody know how I can get in touch with him, man that would be great > (Ande Tucker, should be in California still I presume??) He was about a year ago. > also, wasn't this LP a 500 run?? should be wortha penny now > ther are some super rare 45's on the horizon!!!!!! There are???????? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 18 06:14:22 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:14:22 GMT Subject: (off) Spam-Ultra rare Hawkwind 45 collection for sale In-Reply-To: EliPXR5@AOL.COM's message of Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:10:48 EST Message-ID: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM writes: Any chance of picces of the pic sleeves? Or pointers to 'em? FoFP > Okay I got these Flicknifers with picture sleeves > Zarozinia > Motorway City > Night of the Hawks > Who's Gonna Win The War > > RCA picture sleeves > Angels of Death > Silver Mahine w/Psy Warlords > > Bronze Shot Down In The Night picture sleeve > German Quark picture sleeve > German and Dutch Silver Machine w/ Urban Guerrila nice picture sleeves > French and Portugal Kings of Speed with wicked nice picture sleeves > German and Britishr Back on the Streets pic sleeves > > Silver Machine with picture sleeves > Japan, Spain, Yugoslavia, Portugal, Israel, Germany, and Holland (magenta > color variation) > > > Urban Guerrila with picture sleeves > France, Portugal, Italy, Germany, and Japan (this Japanese single is very > rare. So rare that according to kollector guru Mike Coleman its not included in > the Hawkwind Illustrated Collector's Guide book because they couldn't find a > copy. Its got a gorgeous color wrap around glossy paper sleeve with a beautiful > Space Ritual era posed band photo including Stacia in white face make-up, and > is in mint condition) > > picture disk Silver Machine/ 7 X 7 Liberty (beautiful art) > > Brock Social alliance picture disc and picture sleeve versions > > Calvert Ejection picture sleeve and plain black sleeve versions > > Calvert Lord of the Hornets picture sleeve > > Cricket Star flexidisc > > Moorcock Dodgem Dude picture sleeve > > > That's what I'm offering. Please check about specific conditions as some > things are less than mint. And if some one were to make a decent offer I'd sell > the lot as a whole, and someone would have an awesome 45's collection in one > buy. > Thanks, all Eli Friedman > Thanks Mike Coleman for the input and info > > > ************** > Ideas to please picky > eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 18 06:15:55 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:15:55 GMT Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: Visionary Head's message of Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:08:04 +0800 Message-ID: Visionary Head writes: > I think you'll find Stonehenge was done by a guy called Dave Robinson > who use to run Heartbeat Records in Horsham, West Sussex. There were > 1,000 pressed. Dave also did the Glasgow "Golden Void" album. Except > there, he pressed up 500 copies and made 1,000 > sleeves, and once the > first 500 sold, he made 500 more records. > Just so you are in full possession of the facts. Fascinating. So anyone know the story of the Hawkwind Mind Journey bootleg LP? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 18 06:19:11 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:19:11 GMT Subject: (OFF)(was)Hawkwind Stonhenge LP(now) Ande T In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:02:54 -0600 Message-ID: Try: andetucker at appleisp.net Cheers FoFP From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Feb 18 06:25:17 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:25:17 -0500 Subject: (off) Spam-Ultra rare Hawkwind 45 collection for sale In-Reply-To: <200802181114.m1IBEMUu029972@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Stop!! I can't read this any more, I want it all, especially the Angels Of Death, ah well, I can dream, right. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Feb 18 07:31:53 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:31:53 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: <200802181115.m1IBFtF0000186@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I'm drooling over my keyboard while reading about all these rarities. Kaduflyer From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Feb 18 07:51:41 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:51:41 +0000 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) In-Reply-To: <200802130807.m1D87lgL061711@www.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: On 13 Feb 2008, at 8:07 AM, John Rennie wrote: > A boffin starts: > > Data CDs can be copied as many times as you like, and barring > failures of your CD drive all the copies will be identical. > > However audio CDs are not encoded onto the disk in the same way as > data CDs. Different CD drives will read the same audio CD and return > different data depending on the exact way they process the data on > the audio CD. That's one reason why expensive CD players sound better > than cheap ones. That's partly true, but a little misleading. It's true, as you say, that data CDs and audio CDs are encoded differently on the disc, although the low-level encoding (e.g., 8-to-14 coding and Reed-Solomon cross-interleaved error correcting code) is the same. On data CDs, each sector encodes 2048 bytes of application-level data; on an audio CD, each frame (sector) encodes 2352 bytes, which represents 588 16- bit stereo samples (or 1/75th second of CD-quality audio @ 44.1 KHz). The data CD gets less data per sector because they use some of the raw sector data for extra data integrity checking: it's more important that you detect that the balance in your bank spreadsheet file has erroneously changed than some audio samples in a frame. The former would be potentially catastrophic, whereas the latter would probably be perceptually unnoticeable. (BTW, the main reason expensive CD players sound better than cheap ones is due mostly to the better quality of the analogue components.) > So if you take an original CD, copy it and burn the copy to a CDR, > the copy will be close to the original but not identical. If you make > a second generation copy the second copy will be different again, and > so on. The recording speed won't make any difference. The difference > comes only from the way the electronics in the CD drive extract data > from the audio CD. It's not true that you can't make a bit-identical copy of an audio CD. You just need to take certain safeguards. The main trouble CD drives have in extracting audio data is deciding exactly where audio frames begin. Between different drives, there can be a sector sample offset, particular to the drive, which represents the offset between the true frame start and the one delivered to the extractor application. (To complicate matters, CD writers also have a write sector sample offset.) So, to make bit-identical copies, you need: a) decent CDDA extraction software aware of the issues (e.g., EAC; cdparanoia; etc.), and b) to calibrate your CD drive. There are lots of tutorials on how to do this, via a variety of mechanisms, on the Web. (E.g., do a search for "EAC sample offset".) Some extractors, like EAC and dBPowerAMP support AccurateRip, which lets you calibrate your drive with respect to a database of known pressed CDs and even compare your rips with others. Once you have calibrated your drive, you can make second-generation copies that are verifiably identical to the first-generation ones. (Note, also, that firmware support for accurate CDDA extraction has improved enormously since the early days.) To return to the original query, a lot of the problems with copying CDs stems from trying to do real-time (i.e., one-pass, burst-mode) style copies. In those cases, the emphasis is on speed, not accuracy, and so errors can be passed through. Doing a secure extraction to an image file that you then burn as the copy is a much better way to ensure fewer (or no) errors in the copy, because the extractor can take greater pains to detect and correct (via re-reading) bad source data. For example, EAC operating in secure mode is different to the way it operates in burst mode. The former is much more preferred for bit-identical copies, even though it may be slower. I hope this helps. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Feb 18 08:01:31 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:01:31 -0500 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) In-Reply-To: <200802181251.m1ICpgIG006141@authsmtp1.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: Hi Paul, Thanks for the info, a lot of it goes over my head, but with Chris being a sound engineer, and a computer freak he'll know what you're saying. He's away for a few months, but I expect him home soon. He'll know what to do. I hope all the shows are still up for grabs on the file sharing sites, because I don't know how to do that. Thanks for setting me straight on the copying of CDs and CDRs. Your friend, Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 08:12:26 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:12:26 -0600 Subject: (off) Spam-Ultra rare Hawkwind 45 collection for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/18/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > Stop!! I can't read this any more, I want it all, especially the Angels Of > Death, ah well, I can dream, right. > > Kaduflyer > Mary, I'll get you a million copies of that overnight at any time you like the end. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 08:25:50 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:25:50 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: <200802181115.m1IBFtF0000186@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > Fascinating. So anyone know the story of the Hawkwind Mind Journey > bootleg LP? > > FoFP > Mike thank you a jillion first off, and next, Visionary Head may come along and correct me here, especially since this is a "guided" guess, and now guided by "fuzzy math" since I don't remember things like some freaks do (inside joke), and I do this stuff because I am trying to be usefull and I feel Hawkwind "won" so........ I think Brian Tawn had a hand in that one (but not sure), and it's iffy if he had any more made for friends etc, but it looks like it's not an item that a person could really go after and ever expect to attain, since his friends will not budge if they have it I have what may be as good a recording of it as anyone will ever get, however I still suspect the level could have gone up some..... From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Feb 18 08:28:54 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:28:54 +0000 Subject: CD-R quality (was Re: Shameless CDR vs CD questions) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 18 Feb 2008, at 1:01 PM, vzenv14m wrote: > Hi Paul, > Thanks for the info, a lot of it goes over my head, but with Chris > being a > sound engineer, and a computer freak he'll know what you're saying. > He's > away for a few months, but I expect him home soon. He'll know what > to do. > I hope all the shows are still up for grabs on the file sharing sites, > because I don't know how to do that. Thanks for setting me straight > on the > copying of CDs and CDRs. It's a lot easier to verify whether your copy of a show is okay when you get it from a file sharing site because it is already in data format. As a result, there are extra error checking mechanisms that can be incorporated and used to tell whether the audio data has become corrupted. All of the common audio file formats used for lossless digital audio trading have associated mechanisms for checking the audio data, either externally or as part of the audio file format itself. SHN files, for example, almost always come with MD5 checksum files that can be used to determine whether the SHN files have been modified (due to data corruption, etc.). FLAC files (the prevalent lossless digital audio trading format nowadays) have strong checksums built into file format that can check whether the audio data has become corrupted. MD5 and fingerprint files can also be used to compare the audio files to a known authoritative source, to enable you to verify that your version is *identical* to it. So, it's easier to eliminate and detect generational loss when using lossless digital audio files that are typically shared on the Internet or traded via data discs. (Lossless digital audio files also make excellent archival backup copies, for that same reason.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 08:36:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:36:06 -0600 Subject: (HW) Ultra-Rarity knowledge/Ande Message-ID: Dear FoFP and serious collectors- one thing Ande had, which I have NEVER seen anyone else have, and I mean to go into (my disc of) Wilfried's collection to see if he has, is a SINGLE SLEEVE ISSUE of Japanese In Search Of Space LP...... On 2/18/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 2/18/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > > > Stop!! I can't read this any more, I want it all, especially the Angels > > Of > > Death, ah well, I can dream, right. > > > > Kaduflyer > > > > Mary, I'll get you a million copies of that overnight at any time you like > the end. > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Feb 18 08:40:10 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:40:10 -0500 Subject: (HW) Ultra-Rarity knowledge/Ande In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802180536r41709d7dv9acfa33d838d8cfd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 09:52:31 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:52:31 +0000 Subject: Distant Horizons - Again Message-ID: Listened to again over the weekend as I'm going through some of my least favourites to see if my view or appreciation has changed. Unfortunately not but... Anyone else want to sing Psychedelic Warlords to Wheels - this seems to me to be an instrumental speeded up warlords song. I used to think this about another track but for the life of me could not remember which - until today - when listening to the White Zone. Is Frenzy a run through for Wheels? sound similar to me Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 18 10:03:52 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:03:52 EST Subject: Distant Horizons - Again Message-ID: In a message dated 02/18/2008 14:53:21 GMT Standard Time, stevefreight at GMAIL.COM writes: Anyone else want to sing Psychedelic Warlords to Wheels - this seems to me to be an instrumental speeded up warlords song. I've been out in the garden doing just that, but came back in when windows started opening. We'll do it at Hawkfest. Steve. From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Feb 18 11:55:58 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:55:58 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: <200802181115.m1IBFtF0000186@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike >Fascinating. So anyone know the story of the Hawkwind Mind Journey bootleg LP? Yep. Only one was made and still exists. Just a plain white cover. Nothing else. I am not the lucky one who owns it. Bernhard From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 12:33:59 2008 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:33:59 +0800 Subject: (HW) Ultra-Rarity knowledge/Ande Message-ID: > Dear FoFP and serious collectors- > one thing Ande had, which I have NEVER seen anyone > else have, and I mean to go into (my disc of) > Wilfried's collection to see if he has, is a SINGLE > SLEEVE ISSUE of Japanese In Search Of Space LP...... His single sleeve (with different inserts) and his Japanese radio promo gatefold sleeve (with inserts) are/were both up for sale. Well, they were last time I heard -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com Powered by Outblaze From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 12:35:33 2008 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:35:33 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP Message-ID: > Hi Mike > > >> Fascinating. So anyone know the story of the Hawkwind >> Mind Journey bootleg LP? > > Yep. Only one was made and still exists. > Just a plain white cover. Nothing else. > > I am not the lucky one who owns it. > > > Bernhard Actually its an acetate LP, not even vinyl. It Brian Tawns, he had it cut incase anything happened to his tape. -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com Powered by Outblaze From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 18 12:45:33 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:45:33 GMT Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: bernhard.pospiech's message of Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:55:58 +0100 Message-ID: bernhard.pospiech writes: > Hi Mike > > > >Fascinating. So anyone know the story of the Hawkwind Mind Journey bootleg > LP? > > Yep. Only one was made and still exists. > Just a plain white cover. Nothing else. > > I am not the lucky one who owns it. So how much does it cost to make a one-off bootleg to give that extra kudos to one's collection? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 18 12:46:52 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:46:52 GMT Subject: (HW) Ultra-Rarity knowledge/Ande In-Reply-To: Visionary Head's message of Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:33:59 +0800 Message-ID: Visionary Head writes: > His single sleeve (with different inserts) and his Japanese radio > promo gatefold sleeve (with inserts) are/were both up for sale. Well, > they were last time I heard I'll know the Eschaton is being Immanetised when I hear that the US Forces album is for sale on Ebay... FoFP From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Feb 18 13:25:13 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:25:13 +0000 Subject: new OEB video on YOUTUBE ( Waiting for the Man ) from 2006? Message-ID: Jeff Berry has uploaded a video from the last ever OEB show at Buzz's Tavern in Mt. Holly New Jersey..This was also the last performance with long time OEB and Sloterdijk percussionist Jay Adcock...Cheers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ay5NapkguU PS: If anyone remembers the date of this one, please refresh my memory...Mike _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Feb 18 15:06:48 2008 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:06:48 +0000 Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802171113j696aab81gd8360d4b27bdad15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... http://www-glast.sonoma.edu/glastname/ Cheers, Mick __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 15:58:07 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:58:07 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Stonhenge LP In-Reply-To: <200802181745.m1IHjXVg007776@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > So how much does it cost to make a one-off bootleg to give that extra > kudos to one's collection? > > FoFP > *i DUNNO BUT MY SNOOPING GMAIL KEEPS SHOVING THIS IN MY FACE: WWW.TRUTONE.COM * From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 16:03:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:03:08 -0600 Subject: (HW) Ultra-Rarity knowledge/Ande In-Reply-To: <200802181746.m1IHkqkk007828@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > I'll know the Eschaton is being Immanetised when I hear that the US > Forces album is for sale on Ebay... > > FoFP > i MAY BE COMPLETELY CLUELESS HERE, BUT ISN'T IT SOMETHING LIKE ESCHALON FWIW, I SAY THE STOCK JAPS ARE THE BEST CATCHES, THE DRAGONFLY IS ANOTHER THAT WILL DRAIN A SECOND MORTAGAGE IF IT EVER TRULY SHOWS UP....LOL From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 16:09:55 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:09:55 -0600 Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! In-Reply-To: <502244.52096.qm@web86206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2/18/08, Michael Crook wrote: > > A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... > *MY CHOICE WOULD BE "SLOW-WALKER", ALTHOUGH FASTWALKERS ARE MY SPECIALTY* From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Mon Feb 18 16:16:16 2008 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:16:16 -0500 Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! In-Reply-To: <502244.52096.qm@web86206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Michael Crook wrote: > A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... > > http://www-glast.sonoma.edu/glastname/ > > Cheers, > > Mick > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com > P.X.R.5? Somehow I don't see that one flying... Bill From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 16:20:29 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:20:29 -0600 Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! In-Reply-To: <47B9F5A0.2040106@ugcs.caltech.edu> Message-ID: > P.X.R.5? Somehow I don't see that one flying... > > Bill > why not?? because there is no crew?? From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Feb 18 16:21:55 2008 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:21:55 +0000 Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802181309o36fcc605j45f488c8f81be0c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What - on a Treadmill? --- mike coleman wrote: > On 2/18/08, Michael Crook > wrote: > > > > A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... > > *MY CHOICE WOULD BE "SLOW-WALKER", ALTHOUGH > FASTWALKERS ARE MY SPECIALTY* > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 18 16:28:39 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:28:39 -0600 Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! In-Reply-To: <351207.5202.qm@web86206.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: is that what they do up there these days aside of growing crystals sideways so they can clone luminous swines? On 2/18/08, Michael Crook wrote: > > What - on a Treadmill? > > > --- mike coleman wrote: > > > On 2/18/08, Michael Crook > > wrote: > > > > > > A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... > > > *MY CHOICE WOULD BE "SLOW-WALKER", ALTHOUGH > > FASTWALKERS ARE MY SPECIALTY* > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try > it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Feb 18 16:36:02 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:36:02 +0000 Subject: Here's another on 'Route 66' from September 30th, 2007 Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ8zxYvlF-g From: sloterdijk at msn.comTo: afterdark_st37 at yahoo.com; all at payroll-schweiz.ch; darkrisin at verizon.net; boc-l at listserv.ispnetinc.net; greg.elwell at gmail.com; hawkwind at yahoogroups.com; headsmithuk at yahoo.co.uk; jawdiok at comcast.net; jregen7243 at yahoo.com; dl006a5789 at blueyonder.co.uk; darma60 at yahoo.com; margaret at tait1959.fsnet.co.uk; soulventrus at yahoo.com; mrsmariac1 at msn.com; mw2 at oakham.rutland.sch.uk; moogyking at aol.com; nexus at panix.com; rancity at comcast.net; wim23 at hotmail.com; ss7713 at comcast.net; ss7713 at msn.com; skatrif at comcast.net; stewkey at verizon.netSubject: new OEB video on YOUTUBE ( Waiting for the Man ) from 2006?Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:25:13 +0000 Jeff Berry has uploaded a video from the last ever OEB show at Buzz's Tavern in Mt. Holly New Jersey..This was also the last performance with long time OEB and Sloterdijk percussionist Jay Adcock...Cheers! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ay5NapkguU PS: If anyone remembers the date of this one, please refresh my memory...Mike Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. Play now! _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Feb 18 18:03:55 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:03:55 -0000 Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! Message-ID: Space Bandit? Golden Void? jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Crook" To: Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:06 PM Subject: Re: HW Name that Satellite!! >A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... > > http://www-glast.sonoma.edu/glastname/ > > Cheers, > > Mick > > > __________________________________________________________ > Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com > > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 19 07:00:47 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:00:47 GMT Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! In-Reply-To: Michael Crook's message of Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:06:48 +0000 Message-ID: Michael Crook writes: > A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... > > http://www-glast.sonoma.edu/glastname/ I dunno. This is looking for Gamma-ray bursters right? It's just crying out to be called "Hulk"... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 19 07:06:25 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:06:25 GMT Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! In-Reply-To: Bill Bradley's message of Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:16:16 -0500 Message-ID: > A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... > http://www-glast.sonoma.edu/glastname/ "Lighthouse" would be quite good, but it's hard to make the case... FoFP From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 19 10:10:42 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:10:42 +0000 Subject: (OFF) Re: New BOC Dates!/Foghat In-Reply-To: <8809f5fb0801310815l3b0cf277k9a47eff54b78de87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 11:15:25AM -0500, tim elliott typed out: > I've seen Foghat live and they still put on a kickass show I remember Larry Boyd, may he rest with a spiritual version of his tape collection nearby, sticking up for Foghat a few years ago and comparing them to Status Quo for an American audience; you know just what you'll get, you turn up, you get rocked, you go home. And there's something to be said for that. You kind of get it seeing Mot?rhead these days but Lemmy seems to take time to stop being moody first. Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Electric Tepee_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM Tue Feb 19 10:33:40 2008 From: heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM (tim elliott) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:33:40 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Re: New BOC Dates!/Foghat In-Reply-To: <20080219151042.GD20233@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Exactly Jon, sometimes you just want to go and have fun, know what you're going to get, and watch some guys making music they love; because you know they're not doing it for the big bucks. tim 8>)... On 2/19/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 11:15:25AM -0500, tim elliott typed out: > > I've seen Foghat live and they still put on a kickass show > > I remember Larry Boyd, may he rest with a spiritual version of > his tape collection nearby, sticking up for Foghat a few years ago and > comparing them to Status Quo for an American audience; you know just > what you'll get, you turn up, you get rocked, you go home. And there's > something to be said for that. You kind of get it seeing Mot?rhead these > days but Lemmy seems to take time to stop being moody first. Yours, > Jon > ObCD: Hawkwind - _Electric Tepee_ > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -- tim 8>)... http://heathcliff13.blogspot.com From nexus at PANIX.COM Tue Feb 19 13:41:45 2008 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:41:45 -0500 Subject: Shameless In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers =20 >should know that the =DCnderbelly is playing its debut gig this Thursday = >=20 >Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address is =20 >169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. > >The =DCnderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft =20 >White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and =20 >Adrian Romero.=20= So, how did the gig go? Anyone? Buehler? JB From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Feb 19 14:05:57 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:05:57 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops setlist: Barrington Coffeehouse: 2/15/2008 Message-ID: One Eyed Bishops setlist for February 15th, 2008 Barrington Coffeehouse, Barrington, New Jersey lineup: Stewkey: vocals Mike Burro: guitar/vocals Railroad Bill ( You gotta ) Help Me Smokestack Lightning ( I'm not you ) Steppin Stone Worried Man Blues Wildwood Blues Season of the Witch I got my mojo workin Waiting for the man>Ejection Around & Around Blues with a feeling The Red Rooster Hurry on Sundown new tunes, videos, and dates at: http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 19 15:33:10 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:33:10 EST Subject: HW Name that Satellite!! Message-ID: Hall Of The Martian Grill. With the cover art for the Mountain Grill LP painted all around the observatory. It could be officially opened by Hawkwind. Steve. Sure they'll find a Mac out there. In a message dated 02/18/2008 20:07:49 GMT Standard Time, m.j.crook at TALK21.COM writes: A HW related name would be good - any ideas...... http://www-glast.sonoma.edu/glastname/ Cheers, Mick From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Feb 19 15:42:53 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:42:53 -0600 Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes Message-ID: I am posting this, since a couple people might find it interesting, not to mention I'd love to hear the rational explanation that is beyond me if there is one I just got a USA copy of Warrior, and knowing there are variances, I went into Wilfried's virtual collection to see if I might be lucky enough to get one to rub in on him, and of course, I did....... He has a copy like I used to, that has all the song titles written beneath the spindle hole, and (beneath) the side indication words ONE and TWO He also has another copy, with "Assault and Battery" above the hole and the word ONE, and then on side 2 it has "Magnu" and "Standing at the Edge" above the hole and the word TWO the copy I just got has all the tracks on side one below, but on side 2 "Magnu" rides above now that I think about it, I think mine's the rarest so what to make of this madness???? all I can do is: *HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ah ah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA * *now PLEASE if anybody ever notices that your label indicates RCA (record club) along with Atco, let go, let go* *mike * From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 03:57:28 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:57:28 +0000 Subject: Off - Hawkwind Stonehenge LP Message-ID: Hi, Thanks for the interest in the vinyl. All gone now except the Stonehenge 83 LP, which given the interest shown initially is surprising. Still open to offers. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Feb 20 06:39:44 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:39:44 -0500 Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802191242l4f99db37n36ead9700fc9818d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You collectors are so anal. Just kidding, actually I'm jealous, once again, just kidding. I hope you all find the bits and pieces you're looking for to make your collections complete. I'd be happy if I could afford to get a virgin copy of every official HW release. Congrats, Mike, and good luck to all you collectors out there. Wilfried, it sounds like, from what Mike's told me you have quite the collection. I can't bear to look, I might start turning green. Happy hunting. Your friend, Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 06:55:12 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:55:12 -0600 Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Moin Mare, are you awake I'd like to call???......I don't think there is such a thing as a complete collection with Hawkwind, only status unless you never tell anyone you are a librarian, etc....... Mary vinyl isn't as popular as it was in the time before, I keep telling you not to worry. A lot of digital citizens. The reason I put this on the forum is to state that I believe me and Wilfried have now unlocked the 3 USA Warriors and of course the 4th goes to me (the club edition) since I am the only person around these parts to know about it he can wait be glad you see in a slightly different way than we do, otherwise I might be evil and send you a cd of Wilfried's collection I doubt you would still be with us. mike ps-I know the color-shade variances too, so look out Wilf (like he really cares) (but I do) I think it's safe to say Wilfried takes the prize for having the known largest collection- I was very dissappointed that my birthday came and went and he failed to send me the stand-up Warrior cardboard display On 2/20/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > You collectors are so anal. Just kidding, actually I'm jealous, once > again, > just kidding. I hope you all find the bits and pieces you're looking for > to > make your collections complete. I'd be happy if I could afford to get a > virgin copy of every official HW release. Congrats, Mike, and good luck > to > all you collectors out there. > Wilfried, it sounds like, from what Mike's told me you have quite the > collection. I can't bear to look, I might start turning green. Happy > hunting. > Your friend, > > Kaduflyer > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Feb 20 07:02:07 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:02:07 -0500 Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802200355x602404f9le81b89856fb0da58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You're right, I'd probably have either heart failure, or severe depression. Mare From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Feb 20 09:29:14 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:29:14 +0000 Subject: HW: State of things.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 02:59:23PM +0100, SHLL (Scott Heller) typed out: > As for Tim and Huw, people seem to be very satisified with the recent HW > gigs with Tim. Lets hope they are recording some new stuff now! As for > Huw, saw him at the space rock spectacular in Drayton in October and he > was dreadful. I think he needs to give up the electric guitar. He simply > can't play anymore.. Terrible.. Harvey was there and played killer stuff > but was quite dismayed with Huw.... Huw seems a bit variable at the moment. On stage he's much more cheerful than I've seen him in the past, and acoustic he's always good, but he's certainly not playing his best leads electric these days; lots of power chors, always well-chosen and full of counterpoint and stuff, but just not much more going on. Always happy to see him, but given that he *can* still dazzle on acoustic, I wish he would keep the concentration going for the power-on part of the shows... Yours, Jon ObCD: Ozric Tentacles - _Erpland_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 09:42:10 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:42:10 -0600 Subject: HW: State of things.. In-Reply-To: <20080220142914.GG20233@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: ((<*>)) On 2/20/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: Huw seems a bit variable at the moment. On stage he's much more cheerful than I've seen him in the past, and acoustic he's always good, but he's certainly not playing his best leads electric these days; lots of power chors, always well-chosen and full of counterpoint and stuff, but just not much more going on. Always happy to see him, but given that he *can* still dazzle on acoustic, I wish he would keep the concentration going for the power-on part of the shows... Yours, Jon ((<*>)) on second thought, could it be that he stopped knocking back some drinks prior to the shows and that he in fact could benefit by so doing lol!!! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 10:38:23 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:38:23 -0600 Subject: (HW) Jap kOS pic-sleeve on eBay Message-ID: If someone can snatch this close to his starting offer, IMHO opinion, it may be the rarest of the Jap single releases http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270213402035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 14:43:12 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:43:12 -0000 Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes Message-ID: hey folks - i've got about six copies of the original poster, hard cardboard, for the space ritual LP in 71. It's the same photo that adorned the sleeve, ie stacia, lemmy et al and there are no words or anything, just the pic - not sure wot the purpose of the poster was but it's a goodie, in very good condition but has been rolled as if for postage. it's a rare item so if anyone is interested let me knowwith a serious offer ok? e-mail me at slimtimslide at nsworld.com and we'll get it together tim From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 15:18:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:18:06 -0600 Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes and TREV Message-ID: *Trev, please get slim to hold the best one for you (ah, well, for now).....and BTW, an email I sent to your regular address this a.m. "bounced", but I let it go since my hotmail is experiencing trouble* *you wouldn't change that, right???* On 2/20/08, trev wrote: > > hey folks - i've got about six copies of the original poster, hard > cardboard, for the space ritual LP in 71. It's the same photo that > adorned > the sleeve, ie stacia, lemmy et al and there are no words or anything, > just > the pic - not sure wot the purpose of the poster was but it's a goodie, in > very good condition but has been rolled as if for postage. it's a rare > item > so if anyone is interested let me knowwith a serious offer ok? e-mail me > at > slimtimslide at nsworld.com and we'll get it together > > > tim > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 15:25:37 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:25:37 -0600 Subject: (HW) Jap kOS pic-sleeve on eBay In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802200738w59617048mf660a0a37785ca6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: update, I didn't notice it has tape on it don't pay more that the starting price if you get it at all On 2/20/08, mike coleman wrote: > > If someone can snatch this close to his starting offer, IMHO opinion, it > may be the rarest of the Jap single releases > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270213402035&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 16:23:28 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:23:28 -0600 Subject: (HW) A collector call for help, plus the info DEEP FIX Message-ID: Japanese vinyl pressings exist in RED vinyl for the 1st LP, ISOS, and pretty sure Doremi as well I believe they stopped doing this after Doremi but am not certain find any of these including a STOCK copy of the 1st LP, which has a thicker differing OBI-strip than all later LP's....I had actually got one, but my dealer was waiting for me to send my wooden USA-post proof box that was my trademark of fussiness THAT never happened, and if you only knew how much money in the thousands of dollars I lost with that dealer who should be shot...... I even let him off the hook and simply asked him to help Wilfried (since too many years went by) (and I guess he is paranoid of a trick/trap) One of my MANY MANY losses was a Jap press of Greasy Truckers which would have BLOWN AWAY the normal one, and BTW, if you're going to own that, you want the one with the original black round price sticker, you'd be amazed what it does to liven up the cover There is an unconfirmed but likely rumour that the Urban Guerilla 45 which Eli Friedman has offered was pressed on green vinyl, and further, many of you here may know the silver machine was pressed in red vinyl and that is fact find me any of these and I'll make sure you and yours are drinking and dining at the finest establishments cheers mc djinn From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 19:56:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:56:08 -0600 Subject: (OFF) disregard the matrix, refuse to go "bahhh, bahhh" Message-ID: This subject hit home after my cat was neutered, and the bloody spot on it's leg freaked me out not knowing procedures and such, and my friend Robin told me they put an automatic ID chip in his leg and acted like I should be happy needless to say, I blew out her eardrum, disagreeing that this is acceptable under that circumstance- PAYING for the service is ONE thing, but forced implant is a step in a bad direction IMHO now this link showed up in front of me NEVER agreee to this- BIG MISTAKE overall, IN MY STRONG, non-humble, CERTAINTY here: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2008/tc20080211_165324.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: mike coleman Date: Feb 17, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: kosh have mary click this link To: maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2008/tc20080211_165324.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 20:04:10 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:04:10 -0600 Subject: Robert Calvert premonic lyrical contents Message-ID: I was just thinking about whatever song off "Die Losung" where our poetic fave sang about trying to relax as that's how people get heart-attacks, and also, his lyrics on PXR5, speaking on Robot isn't it? about unwinding your mind I wish Dave or Trev would grab Ronnie Tree and send him to me for my own attempt at keeping him from taking all drugs all at once so that he can do a take on "Urban Indian", and more mike From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Feb 21 04:28:34 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:28:34 -0500 Subject: Robert Calvert premonic lyrical contents In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802201704j2d62860eidd05db37899a55df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The line from the song about relaxing, is Adrenalin Rush. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Feb 21 04:49:01 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:49:01 -0500 Subject: (OFF) disregard the matrix, refuse to go "bahhh, bahhh" In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802201656s52881e4dobc3172754bd69f9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: They've got your Name, They've got your number. Big Brother's been out there for a long time this is the next step, of course, it's only for our own good, right? (ha, ha), Besides it's dangerous. "I've got a silicon chip in my head." They're already trying to eradicate paper money, so there'll be a trail showing how you spend your money, among other things. "Living on a knife edge, Looking for the ground." Kaduflyer By the way, for those who don't know, I was not the friend Mike was referring to with respect to chipping the cat. It's evil. I'd never do that to my cat. From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Feb 21 12:12:34 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:12:34 +0000 Subject: new pics up from OEBs w/ Stewkey Barrington New Jersey 2/15/2008 Message-ID: New pics and more dates at: http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 21 13:18:02 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:18:02 GMT Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes In-Reply-To: trev's message of Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:43:12 -0000 Message-ID: trev writes: > hey folks - i've got about six copies of the original poster, hard > cardboard, for the space ritual LP in 71. It's the same photo that adorned > the sleeve, ie stacia, lemmy et al and there are no words or anything, just > the pic - not sure wot the purpose of the poster was but it's a goodie, in > very good condition but has been rolled as if for postage. it's a rare item > so if anyone is interested let me knowwith a serious offer ok? e-mail me at > slimtimslide at nsworld.com and we'll get it together Any pointers to a pic of it? Could be interested in parting with Federation Credits... FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 21 13:49:32 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:49:32 -0600 Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes In-Reply-To: <200802211818.m1LII2S1028911@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 2/21/08, M Holmes wrote: > > trev writes: > Any pointers to a pic of it? Could be interested in parting with > Federation Credits... > > FoFP > while we (me) rebellious americans may often ere, as compared (to) actual hometown HW dwellers, but did the 1971date (credited) send at least a bad cell tone ring to your MPE/Phone/Camera??? wasn't that a fornative time not yet arrived at the UA photos for the 73 LP??? pics-to-poster of _that_ in 71?? really?? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 21 15:34:23 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:34:23 GMT Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes In-Reply-To: Delta-Wave's message of Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:49:32 -0600 Message-ID: Delta-Wave writes: > while we (me) rebellious americans may often ere, as compared (to) actual > hometown HW dwellers, but did the 1971date (credited) send at least a bad > cell tone ring to your MPE/Phone/Camera??? > wasn't that a fornative time not yet arrived at the UA photos for the 73 > LP??? > pics-to-poster of _that_ in 71?? really?? You are Drieux and I claim my ten Dollars! FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 21 15:52:11 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:52:11 -0600 Subject: (HW) my shameless collection/keeping Wilfried on his toes In-Reply-To: <200802212034.m1LKYNhK007387@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: actually you owe me a lot more than that by default I am going to look up your "high level language", but whilst here, I have just received 2 USA (stock) psi-power singles that replace my former 3....I was headed into the virtual items to see if the missing third lies in Deutchland, or if it's still in a void details upon a person who cares Djinni On 2/21/08, M Holmes wrote: > > Delta-Wave writes: > > > while we (me) rebellious americans may often ere, as compared (to) > actual > > hometown HW dwellers, but did the 1971date (credited) send at least a > bad > > cell tone ring to your MPE/Phone/Camera??? > > wasn't that a fornative time not yet arrived at the UA photos for the 73 > > LP??? > > pics-to-poster of _that_ in 71?? really?? > > You are Drieux and I claim my ten Dollars! > > FoFP > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 21 23:47:24 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:47:24 -0600 Subject: (HW) Collector post/ French Hassan Message-ID: upon conversing with one of my contactees, it turns out that I not only KNOW who was giving French Hassans out at shows from a suitcase, but am also friends with that person (I hope, still) and actually hung out with him at the Brixton Hawkestropera, and so it would appear that item is really a promo despite having 2 songs FoFP could you supply me a recording of it at some point??? I can hear the subtle differences and such, and enjoy them that person is also, or at least WAS the owner of the Uruguay (sp?) Mt. Grill that has the inner sleeve photos on the back cover I am so pissed off that somebody overbid me on a yellow label Mt. Grill, and nobody's kitty dies since I have made a complete conversion to cat-lover they are still sneaky sons-a-bitches, and anyone who thinks their excrement is a superior situation to dogs is lying to themselves or else they ignore certain smells, etc it's clump clump clump clump clump clump clump clump clump (even if I had an elctro-sweep, I'd still want it OUT!!!!) previous post correction: when I asked aloud if the great Ande T still had the French Hassan, my bad again, I meant Italian m From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 21 23:54:09 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:54:09 -0600 Subject: (HW) bringing the 1975 discussion to the people here Message-ID: I heard rumour that 75 shows are being discussed on that Yahoo forum I am the strange bird who seems to be pretty well satisfied with the legit catalog, but I must say that I played the Mind Journey today and was totally enjoying it until: *IT CUT OFF* *AHHHHHHHHHHH* *now that we know it is a tape source has anyone got the rest??* *further, are there other recordings that good that I can beat Mary Bruce in obtaining????* *and lastly: I was told of a 75 show where air-force jets flew overhead* *anybody know of that??* *m* From visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM Fri Feb 22 01:46:10 2008 From: visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM (Visionary Head) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:46:10 +0800 Subject: (HW) A collector call for help, plus the info DEEP FIX Message-ID: >There is an unconfirmed but likely rumour that the >Urban Guerilla 45 which Eli Friedman has offered >was pressed on green vinyl, I don't have the green vinyl, but the first I heard of this was in 1980(!), a dealer was advertising it in the classifieds in the back of "Sounds". I still have the ad somewhere. I never believed it existed - would love to see one! VH -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com Powered by Outblaze From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 22 03:18:19 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:18:19 -0600 Subject: (HW) A collector call for help, plus the info DEEP FIX In-Reply-To: <20080222064610.5B51523427@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: On 2/22/08, Visionary Head wrote: > > I don't have the green vinyl, but the first I heard of this was in > 1980(!), a dealer was advertising it in the classifieds in the back of > "Sounds". I still have the ad somewhere. I never believed it existed - would > love to see one! > > *Oh good, supporting evidence, and a chance to add some things so as not > to confuse* 1) as (from my experirence) when the colored Sonic first appeared in an add at rediculous prices, disbelief and mistrust were the order of the day- I want to say that either Mick Bryceland first saw this (green one), and again, my memory may fail, but I believe Ande saw one somewhere, but the point is that we've got a tip that it's out there: In my past, the _Original_ Jap items were the creme-de-la creme hawkwind vinyl, so mark my words: if Eli is saying his is flawless and your chances of finding a Green Jap "Urban" are greater that you will be a solid member of Hawkwind before you die. You wont find it, and if you do, better hope you're richer than shit. Next, I have heard of a Japanese ISOS in Red but have no direct evidence. as for the 1st LP, you can bank in Switzerland over this solid fact, however it is so impossible that your dealer will probably keep it and not let you even have a chance the red SM has turned up a few times, but again, you won't get these items cheap, unless you have an ace up your sleeve over there, and even then it's not easy. As for the Doremi, again, I've heard rumours, but can't verify first hand. These are items almost worth just forgetting, however I know the few with the means, so just in case, and it made for another read. I commented earlier aboput stock copies being better- that could be just me being wrong- it's just that much like here in the USA, it seemed to me promos were showing up at a faster rate than many stocks......and I bought my share, more than just one copy, etc........(plus I'm a sucker for the full-colored, Liberty labels, as opposed to the white promos) so I guess you may as well know that the Jap original Doremi can come with a gold OBI-strip or a pink one, like ISOS (pink one), so that seemed redundant, however both are correct and valid and if you get promo LP's of these and it has an OBI, give thanks to something...... cheers and thanks for further evidence mike -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.doramail.com > > Powered by Outblaze > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Feb 22 05:43:01 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:43:01 -0500 Subject: (HW) bringing the 1975 discussion to the people here In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802212054x65b36d52hc907bdf57a388c8d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mary Bruce, who's that. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Feb 22 05:44:06 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:44:06 -0500 Subject: (HW) A collector call for help, plus the info DEEP FIX In-Reply-To: <20080222064610.5B51523427@ws5-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Hi Vh, I can't help, but do wish you luck. Kaduflyer From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 22 09:53:00 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:53:00 GMT Subject: (HW) Collector post/ French Hassan In-Reply-To: Delta-Wave's message of Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:47:24 -0600 Message-ID: Delta-Wave writes: > upon conversing with one of my contactees, it turns out that I not only KNOW > who was giving French Hassans out at shows from a suitcase, but am also > friends with that person (I hope, still) and actually hung out with him at > the Brixton Hawkestropera, and so it would appear that item is really a > promo despite having 2 songs Who dat? > FoFP could you supply me a recording of it at some point??? Yep. I can do that, if I can ever find my record deck under the pile of CDs I've yet to hear... FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 22 10:37:18 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:37:18 -0600 Subject: (HW) Collector post/ French Hassan In-Reply-To: <200802221453.m1MEr0ka005915@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 2/22/08, M Holmes wrote: > > Delta-Wave writes: > > > upon conversing with one of my contactees, it turns out that I not only > KNOW > > who was giving French Hassans out at shows from a suitcase, > Who dat? *Mick Bryceland* u supply me a recording of it at some point??? > > Yep. I can do that, if I can ever find my record deck under the pile of > CDs I've yet to hear... *do it soon and include a strong copy of you-know-what and learn that god's creations can continue to amaze, and in my case that you will never hear of it even spoken of, unless it's me-to-you* From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 22 10:43:44 2008 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (EliPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:43:44 EST Subject: (HW) A collector call for help, plus the info DEEP FIX Message-ID: Hi. Eli Friedman here. Just to set the record straight, the Japanese 7 inch 45 of Urban Guerilla I posted about is on regular black high quality Japanese vinyl. I have never seen a green one. Sorry. I certainly never suggested to anyone that it was green vinyl. Yours, Eli Friedman By the way...no one on the list expressed any interest in any 45's so I'll have to take my chances with Ebay. I'll be putting them up later this week. In a message dated 2/22/08 2:12:15 AM, visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM writes: > >There is an unconfirmed but likely rumour that the > >Urban Guerilla 45 which Eli Friedman has offered > >was pressed on green vinyl, > > I don't have the green vinyl, but the first I heard of this was in 1980(!), > a dealer was advertising it in the classifieds in the back of "Sounds". I > still have the ad somewhere. I never believed it existed - would love to see > one! > > VH > ************** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 22 11:18:41 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:18:41 -0600 Subject: (HW) A collector call for help, plus the info DEEP FIX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Eli- I mentioned that to you and you didn't say anything, as well as _I think_ I got another opinion and they understood my words it should be clear that if Urban G exists on green wax, it's really the stuff of legend, and I suspect we ALL got the rumour from the very ad Visionary Head saw......that stated, I bet it dOES exist further, I have just had confirmation that the Jap ISOS DOES exist in red vinyl, so the mystery is down to Doremi and the Urban G from what I have heard and am open to corrections, colored vinyl is in fact inferior to black, at least in the old days the Urban Guerill Eli offers has a fold-out type sleeve, and is the only one of it's kind for the Jap singles these were always the rarest and most important singles to me, not to mention the playback. and a last comment: when I said the Jap promos are less rare than the stocks, or at least 50/50 it seemed, not so as far as the reissues, i.e. (Warrior, SR, and Dormei), I would say the promos are definitely rarer, (and again) as far as the originals, it matters not, only that you should shed a few tears if you don't have any, or at least have the fond memories like I do I would bid on that if I didn't have to borrow more money mike On 2/22/08, EliPXR5 at aol.com wrote: > > Hi. Eli Friedman here. Just to set the record straight, the Japanese 7 > inch > 45 of Urban Guerilla I posted about is on regular black high quality > Japanese > vinyl. I have never seen a green one. Sorry. > I certainly never suggested to anyone that it was green vinyl. Yours, Eli > Friedman > By the way...no one on the list expressed any interest in any 45's so I'll > have to take my chances with Ebay. I'll be putting them up later this > week. > > In a message dated 2/22/08 2:12:15 AM, visionaryhead at DORAMAIL.COM writes: > > > > >There is an unconfirmed but likely rumour that the > > >Urban Guerilla 45 which Eli Friedman has offered > > >was pressed on green vinyl, > > > > I don't have the green vinyl, but the first I heard of this was in > 1980(!), > > a dealer was advertising it in the classifieds in the back of "Sounds". > I > > still have the ad somewhere. I never believed it existed - would love to > see > > one! > > > > VH > > > > > > > ************** > Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > > ( > http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 22 12:15:21 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:15:21 GMT Subject: (HW) Collector post/ French Hassan In-Reply-To: Delta-Wave's message of Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:37:18 -0600 Message-ID: Delta-Wave writes: > u supply me a recording of it at some point??? > > > > Yep. I can do that, if I can ever find my record deck under the pile of > > CDs I've yet to hear... > *do it soon Havta wait until mid-March. I'm off skiing in Utah soon and more to do beforehand than there is time. FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 22 14:43:46 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:43:46 -0600 Subject: (HW) another collectorpost regarding ISOS booklet NOT log Message-ID: I just got an email with a comment from a nameless person who had said "whatever happened to that bloke with the nice mom who never sent any records" well, that saying is really the same as project bluebook's statement when they terminated it (publically) by saying "ufo's are not a threat to national security" there is much more there than meets the 99 pecent fools of society's "eyes" see turns out my friend who sent the mail has been waiting for a copy of the little ISOS booklet that is about Hawklords booklet size, from that very person for years I used to have it and described to him it was very nice and that I recalled something unique about the paper texture....(it is identified as dark blue with stars adorning it) just for grins, I decided to look in my Jap ISOS to see if there was a 5percent or less chance I put mine in there I FREAKED out that it IS in there, and not only that, I had made it the slickest plastic jacket ever, out of a Jap resealable sleeve so I ask: what is this booklet exactly???? I was so happy I just closed the record up and filed it back thanks mike ps-should I get a Hawklords booklet or not??? I am trying to put keepsakes with the LP's to make them as sweet as artificial sweeteners with poison ingredients can get, but fear that will be too thick to really put with the record already sporting a 45...... thanks From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Feb 22 19:49:08 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:49:08 -0500 Subject: (HW) another collectorpost regarding ISOS booklet NOT log In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802221143v614c7364vb36e5726859e8fb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mike, I wouldn't put it in with all the other stuff there already. I know you'll think of something, you're quite clever. Mary From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 22 21:43:19 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:43:19 -0600 Subject: (HW) another collectorpost regarding ISOS booklet NOT log In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/22/08, vzenv14m wrote: > > Mike, > I wouldn't put it in with all the other stuff there already. I know > you'll > think of something, you're quite clever Well the ISOS book stays, it goes like a glove on a falconer's perch hand/arm into the ISOS (also missing a LOG that I got ripped off) (of course neither came in it) I think I remember it has the HW "Fly As A Kite" story in it??? as for the Hawklords booklet, it could go with the 12" promo, which already sports the other 45, but my heart lies with it going LP-wise apologies I asked the forum, that wasn't so smart Wilfired surely won't tell me......so that concludes today's HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the "HAHAHAHA's" will probably have to wait a bit until I lift the red phone again or go jump through somebody's hoops that are at least hoops I can handle ( I have a semi plan) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Feb 23 10:45:01 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:45:01 -0600 Subject: (HW) open question regarding French Hassan Message-ID: so what we wanna know, considering Mick was a roadie at that time, was why were these singles pressed in France BEFORE the tour???? (why not UK) also, the way I was told, is that he was giving them out to people on the street (arghh),,,,,,,,,no mention of a suitcase while that doesn't mean he didn't have one if I knew where he was, I contact him as well....... mike From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Feb 23 20:47:52 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:47:52 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock and Drool Trough shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com FEBRUARY 24, 2008: NEW RADIO SHOW I've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #195, and Drool Trough Radio (show #75). See playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #195) Thunderbolt Pagoda ? ?Horizon On Fire? (from Thunderbolt Pagoda) Jeremy ? ?Sky Song? (from Mystery and Illusion) Stone Oak Cosmonaut ? ?A Circle Run? (from Out of Orbit) Von Trippenhof ? multiple tracks from Space Opera & Wail Songs The Spacious Mind ? ?To Earth With Love? (from Cosmic Minds At Play) The Divine Baze Orchestra ? ?Little Man? (from Once we were born ) Tim Jones & Dave Blenkinsop ? ?Foot Tap Response? (from Stone Premonitions ? Vol. 1: 1974-1979) Tim Jones ? ?The Empire Falls Flat? (from Stone Premonitions ? Vol. 2: 1980-1984) Tim Jones & Kevin Heard ? ?People in Power? (from Stone Premonitions ? Vol. 3: 1984-1987) Darxtar ? ?7? (from Sju) Paul Rose ? ?Still Water? (from Dissipation) Krypt?sthesie ? ?An Evening Following a Cuttle-Fish? (from Inner Whirl) Halcyon High ? ?Soul Slides Away? (from To Be Infinite) Why Johnny Kills ? ?M.O.M.? (from Sex) Far East Family Band ? ?Mystery of Northern Space? (from Nipponjin) Drool Trough Radio (show #75) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. Wrong Turn ? Nervous Breakdown? (From Nothing Grows From Scars) Don Campau ? ?Selfish? (from Pests) Nichole Worden ? ?Teak? (from Gracious Spirit of Wood) Tim Reed ? ?The Point? (from Selected Electroacoustic Works) Emily Picha ? ?Eyes On A Prize? (from Westerly) Andrew Maurer ? ?Sweat Beads? (from There is a Window) Human Flesh - ?Rust? (from Penumbra) UNIT ? ?Rocket No.9? (from Godspunk Volume Four) Sun Ra and his Solar Arkestra ? ?Rocket Number Nine Take Off For The Planet Venus? (from Interstellar Low Ways) PerkinsWood ? ?God? (from Guitar Island) PerkinsWood ? ?Roll Bob Roll? (from Son of Sparkle) IVA ? ?Ambient? (from IVA) Squidley ? ?(9 Intro?/?Underground City #9? (from Welcome To My Spaceship) Oxygene8 ? ?Freak of Chance? (from Freak of Chance) Tin Scribble ? ?Listen? (from Children of Saturn) Buck Gooter ? ?Ain?t That Martian? (from Animals) Department ? ?It?s All Too Late Now? (from Turncoat) Darsombra ? ?Lamentings/Auguries? (from Eternal Jewel) Rectoplasm ? ?Guatan? (from Lemuria) Aaron English ? ?Like Smoke? (from The Marriage of the Sun and Moon) http://Aural-Innovations.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 24 01:28:31 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:28:31 -0600 Subject: (HW) more of my collector expertise and the lack of Message-ID: While I may be safe to include the name of the originating source of this interesting mail I received today, boundary crossing needs to be history so that I can climb higher and higher and so.....here we go......fascinating to me, and I know Mike Poo and Jill and some others could wade through this: Hi Mike - firstly hope things are OK. Secondly just a note to say I've > really been liking the recent discussion posts on the BOC list re the > various rarities. You're right, it could drive you to distraction trying to > figure them all out. > how many UK copies of the first LP do you know of ? Here's my list, tell > me if you know of any more: > Blue label *yes, mine was given to me as I never cared about it, it > looked flawless but crackled like a fireplace* > 3 x different black labels *what????? Wilfried are you receiving??? are > you including Sunset issues here???* > 1 x black label mis-press with a different version of the black label on > either side *way too cool, take a pic and share it please* > 2 x Sunsets *I had a UK copy (sealed, of course, then a play one) and then > Wilf got me a Dutch? copy that I got to have for about five minutes, just > long anough to enjoy all the print on the rear was blue!!!!* > 2 x Rockfiles *I had a New Zealand and a UK, red and black "Doremi Grill" > logos on rear being the distinguishing factors* > Liberty 80's press s/s *I want it, how much you want>>>?? I had 2 of > these, yellow label and gray label* > Liberty 80's Picture disc *Nice piece* > Any advances on the above....? *Not sure I understand this, sorry* > And whilst I'm here, did the 1st LP exist with a US Sun & Clouds label - > try as I might, it eludes me. Not even a sniff of one. *You betcha!!!! I > will get you a nice one just after I get myself another, also exists with > differing tan labels (very slight font diff, etc), and my fave is the gray > label one, dunno why* > *is that enough for now, I mean, I want this stuff too, and I can't give it all away all at once!!!! hehehehehe* *kidding* *mike* *BTW, I had an Italian 1st LP, another one given freely, and it took me to even notice it was- the UA catalog got an amazing amount of pressings* *I went all day having trouble digesting that it was friday until the REAL shock came that it is/was SATURDAY????* *jeez I've got to sit at this damned computer listening to bANBURY again????? i SPENT 3 HOURS AND NOT A WHIFF OF icu..........(IT'S FRIENDLY HUMOR DAVE, DON'T FREAK)* From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Sun Feb 24 06:30:10 2008 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (David Adams) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:30:10 -0000 Subject: Tonight on Sunday Space Rock, Nik Turner interview Message-ID: I'm re-playing the 'chat'I had with Nik Turner back in December, enhanced to make his voice somewhat clearer, be sure to tune in. Also tonight, music from: Space Mirrors, Zone Six, Space Seed (with Harvey Bainbridge), Space Ritual, APS, Daevid Allen, Chrosoma Project and more! Plus a couple more from the talked about 'precursor' bag. (suggestions always welcome) Tune in tonight from 8pm GMT on www.banburymusicradio.com From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 24 07:18:48 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:18:48 +0000 Subject: Take me to your future - previews Message-ID: Has anyone heard anything on when the DVD's featured on this disc will be released I'm really waiting for the Promo DVD Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 24 22:54:07 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:54:07 -0600 Subject: (HW) more of my collector expertise and the lack of/total insanity anyone??? Message-ID: *I'm so bored I could die, and so I will add some things:* *the 1st LP has been issued in a jillion places like all the Liberty/Ua catalog, but I will metion a couple others I recall-* *Australian press- single sleeve: beware the Aussie presses at least as far as the UA catalog goes as they are made from recycled vinyl and sound like dog poopie, however, if you are like everyone else besides me, and just collect, you want the ISOS, since it is single sleeve with a diff back cover, anf the Warrior, again single sleeve with a unique font on the song credits on the rear- I am after a mint one of this and will ask to borrow money from my one true friend Wilfried. I decided that even though I emancipated from the human race that I would have no chance of survival without a REAL friend. So I gave him my japanese pressing of the 1st LP.* *It is awesome. The cover is so thick you could drop it and it would be fine. The playback destroys all pressings, just like all the Jap originals, with my own private opinion that Dormei is too bass-heavy, and I prefer the Jap reissue- however some of you have better turntables than I ever had and so...........* *the German pressing of the 1st LP can be identified by it's sticker on the cover that says "electric rock", and before I go, just to prove I am what I say I am:* *TRY THIS STUNT:* *the 1st LP and ISOS exist as promos from the USA, most commonly noted by being embossed on the front cover with "Not For Sale", which is simply an imprint, no color or anything BUT!!!!!!! the 1st LP also exists as a promo in a rarer form, which has a white round sticker that says "promotional copy, not for sale".........I also once got a copy of ISOS that had that sticker on THE BACK COVER....if you have that, you've really got something....none of these records are labeled as promos on the labels themselves, just the covers* *and if that isn't enough, there is a really neat looking yellow promotional booklet for the first LP, made here in the states, full size book, that I want again* *if I find somebody else's money to bid on these items, and they show up, and I catch you competing: out you go!!!!* ** On 2/24/08, Delta-Wave wrote: > > While I may be safe to include the name of the originating source of this > interesting mail I received today, boundary crossing needs to be history so > that I can climb higher and higher and so.....here we go......fascinating to > me, and I know Mike Poo and Jill and some others could wade through this: > > Hi Mike - firstly hope things are OK. Secondly just a note to say I've > > really been liking the recent discussion posts on the BOC list re the > > various rarities. You're right, it could drive you to distraction trying to > > figure them all out. > > how many UK copies of the first LP do you know of ? Here's my list, > > tell me if you know of any more: > > Blue label *yes, mine was given to me as I never cared about it, it > > looked flawless but crackled like a fireplace* > > 3 x different black labels *what????? Wilfried are you receiving??? are > > you including Sunset issues here???* > > 1 x black label mis-press with a different version of the black label on > > either side *way too cool, take a pic and share it please* > > 2 x Sunsets *I had a UK copy (sealed, of course, then a play one) and > > then Wilf got me a Dutch? copy that I got to have for about five minutes, > > just long anough to enjoy all the print on the rear was blue!!!!* > > 2 x Rockfiles *I had a New Zealand and a UK, red and black "Doremi > > Grill" logos on rear being the distinguishing factors* > > Liberty 80's press s/s *I want it, how much you want>>>?? I had 2 of > > these, yellow label and gray label* > > Liberty 80's Picture disc *Nice piece* > > Any advances on the above....? *Not sure I understand this, sorry* > > And whilst I'm here, did the 1st LP exist with a US Sun & Clouds label - > > try as I might, it eludes me. Not even a sniff of one. *You betcha!!!! > > I will get you a nice one just after I get myself another, also exists with > > differing tan labels (very slight font diff, etc), and my fave is the gray > > label one, dunno why* > > > *is that enough for now, I mean, I want this stuff too, and I can't give > it all away all at once!!!! hehehehehe* > *kidding* > *mike* > *BTW, I had an Italian 1st LP, another one given freely, and it took me to > even notice it was- the UA catalog got an amazing amount of pressings* > *I went all day having trouble digesting that it was friday until the REAL > shock came that it is/was SATURDAY????* > *jeez I've got to sit at this damned computer listening to bANBURY > again????? i SPENT 3 HOURS AND NOT A WHIFF OF icu..........(IT'S FRIENDLY > HUMOR DAVE, DON'T FREAK)* > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Feb 24 23:11:27 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:11:27 -0600 Subject: (HW) more of my collector expertise and the lack of/total insanity anyone???/oops more Message-ID: and how about this: somehow, somewhere, with some record, United Artists USA pressed SOMETHING with that now famous "sun and coulds" artwork as an entire INNER SLEEVE.. I had it on my wall I loved it so much until I finally took it down and put it with my USA space ritual pressed with the "sun and clouds" logo......I won't speak of those pressings unless I get paypalled, hihihihihi........anyway, one of my big things was to try to put as many cool items in with the records so that I would have the copies to destroy all others...........one thing I never figured out: how to safely stow the "explora" HW promo rocketship into a Space Ritual.......... On 2/24/08, Delta-Wave wrote: > > *I'm so bored I could die, and so I will add some things:* > *the 1st LP has been issued in a jillion places like all the Liberty/Ua > catalog, but I will metion a couple others I recall-* > *Australian press- single sleeve: beware the Aussie presses at least as > far as the UA catalog goes as they are made from recycled vinyl and sound > like dog poopie, however, if you are like everyone else besides me, and just > collect, you want the ISOS, since it is single sleeve with a diff back > cover, anf the Warrior, again single sleeve with a unique font on the song > credits on the rear- I am after a mint one of this and will ask to borrow > money from my one true friend Wilfried. I decided that even though I > emancipated from the human race that I would have no chance of survival > without a REAL friend. So I gave him my japanese pressing of the 1st LP.* > *It is awesome. The cover is so thick you could drop it and it would be > fine. The playback destroys all pressings, just like all the Jap originals, > with my own private opinion that Dormei is too bass-heavy, and I prefer the > Jap reissue- however some of you have better turntables than I ever had and > so...........* > *the German pressing of the 1st LP can be identified by it's sticker on > the cover that says "electric rock", and before I go, just to prove I am > what I say I am:* > *TRY THIS STUNT:* > *the 1st LP and ISOS exist as promos from the USA, most commonly noted by > being embossed on the front cover with "Not For Sale", which is simply an > imprint, no color or anything BUT!!!!!!! the 1st LP also exists as a promo > in a rarer form, which has a white round sticker that says "promotional > copy, not for sale".........I also once got a copy of ISOS that had that > sticker on THE BACK COVER....if you have that, you've really got > something....none of these records are labeled as promos on the labels > themselves, just the covers* > *and if that isn't enough, there is a really neat looking yellow > promotional booklet for the first LP, made here in the states, full size > book, that I want again* > *if I find somebody else's money to bid on these items, and they show up, > and I catch you competing: out you go!!!!* > ** > > > On 2/24/08, Delta-Wave wrote: > > > > While I may be safe to include the name of the originating source of > > this interesting mail I received today, boundary crossing needs to be > > history so that I can climb higher and higher and so.....here we > > go......fascinating to me, and I know Mike Poo and Jill and some others > > could wade through this: > > > > Hi Mike - firstly hope things are OK. Secondly just a note to say I've > > > really been liking the recent discussion posts on the BOC list re the > > > various rarities. You're right, it could drive you to distraction trying to > > > figure them all out. > > > how many UK copies of the first LP do you know of ? Here's my list, > > > tell me if you know of any more: > > > Blue label *yes, mine was given to me as I never cared about it, it > > > looked flawless but crackled like a fireplace* > > > 3 x different black labels *what????? Wilfried are you receiving??? > > > are you including Sunset issues here???* > > > 1 x black label mis-press with a different version of the black label > > > on either side *way too cool, take a pic and share it please* > > > 2 x Sunsets *I had a UK copy (sealed, of course, then a play one) and > > > then Wilf got me a Dutch? copy that I got to have for about five minutes, > > > just long anough to enjoy all the print on the rear was blue!!!!* > > > 2 x Rockfiles *I had a New Zealand and a UK, red and black "Doremi > > > Grill" logos on rear being the distinguishing factors* > > > Liberty 80's press s/s *I want it, how much you want>>>?? I had 2 of > > > these, yellow label and gray label* > > > Liberty 80's Picture disc *Nice piece* > > > Any advances on the above....? *Not sure I understand this, sorry* > > > And whilst I'm here, did the 1st LP exist with a US Sun & Clouds label > > > - try as I might, it eludes me. Not even a sniff of one. *You > > > betcha!!!! I will get you a nice one just after I get myself another, also > > > exists with differing tan labels (very slight font diff, etc), and my fave > > > is the gray label one, dunno why* > > > > > *is that enough for now, I mean, I want this stuff too, and I can't give > > it all away all at once!!!! hehehehehe* > > *kidding* > > *mike* > > *BTW, I had an Italian 1st LP, another one given freely, and it took me > > to even notice it was- the UA catalog got an amazing amount of pressings > > * > > *I went all day having trouble digesting that it was friday until the > > REAL shock came that it is/was SATURDAY????* > > *jeez I've got to sit at this damned computer listening to bANBURY > > again????? i SPENT 3 HOURS AND NOT A WHIFF OF icu..........(IT'S FRIENDLY > > HUMOR DAVE, DON'T FREAK)* > > > > > > > > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 25 00:41:10 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:41:10 -0600 Subject: (HW) spamming the forum with itemspeak Message-ID: if you ever find a USA log-book pressed in BLACK and not dark blue either keep it or donate it to the coleman future-but-never-gained-again reconstruction effort/attempt and of course you old Brits know the LOG is in colors in the UK, I always wanted Bob's green one, never pulled that off I've just been into one German man's virtual items and seen a French first LP with a lovely RED label I also spotted a copy I _think_ is German whose "Electric Rock" sticker looks much cooler than mine did, his is purple colored and mine was white with blue and (I think) orange print....there will probably be an answer coming, likely diff country press, etc forgive me thanks mike From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Feb 25 00:45:22 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Delta-Wave) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:45:22 -0600 Subject: (HW)(word sP*Ming deleted) the forum with itemspeak Message-ID: On 2/24/08, Delta-Wave wrote: > > if you ever find a USA log-book pressed in BLACK and not dark blue > either keep it or donate it to the coleman future-but-never-gained-again > reconstruction effort/attempt > and of course you old Brits know the LOG is in colors in the UK, I always > wanted Bob's green one, never pulled that off > I've just been into one German man's virtual items and seen a French first > LP with a lovely RED label > I also spotted a copy I _think_ is German whose "Electric Rock" sticker > looks much cooler than mine did, his is purple colored and mine was white > with blue and (I think) orange print....there will probably be an answer > coming, likely diff country press, etc > forgive me > thanks > mike > From albert at CELLSUM.COM Mon Feb 25 07:16:56 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:16:56 -0500 Subject: More Re: Shameless In-Reply-To: <200802191841.m1JIfjX11630@panix5.panix.com> Message-ID: The gig went well. There were no listers there other than me but we did have a few fans and bunch of regulars there and the place is tiny so it was respectably full. We played a acoustic instrument levels even though we played electric guitars but it was pretty rocking. I put a couple badly recorded tracks up on our myspace page http://www.myspace.com/nderbelly We are playing again in New York City at 9PM on Sunday March 9th at Arlene's Grocery so that should be a better gig in terms of being able to make a little noise. Al On Feb 19, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Jeff Berry wrote: >> In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers >> =20 >> should know that the =DCnderbelly is playing its debut gig this >> Thursday = >> =20 >> Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address >> is =20 >> 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. >> >> The =DCnderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original Soft >> =20 >> White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and =20 >> Adrian Romero.=20= > > > So, how did the gig go? Anyone? Buehler? > > JB > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Feb 26 09:47:24 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Michael Von Coleman) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:47:24 -0600 Subject: (HW) oh come on (ramblings) Message-ID: cheer up to wilfried's disgusting credit, that jap 1st LP I gave him was a promo, he already had the stock but not with that obi-strip, he needs one.... there's a Hawkwind kite for gods sake and there are TWO different Warrior cardboard displays one that holds the record closed and one that holds it opened if anyone can provide the latter please contact me and I'll get you A LOT of money I'll be gone all day and evening so I hope there is something to read when I return peace mike c From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 26 10:52:41 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:52:41 GMT Subject: (HW) oh come on (ramblings) In-Reply-To: Michael Von Coleman's message of Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:47:24 -0600 Message-ID: Michael Von Coleman writes: > there's a Hawkwind kite for gods sake There's also the Hawkwind Rocket - a little cardboard cut-out-and-assemble sheet. I've forgotten where that came from though... And of course there's the Silver Machine Flying Saucer... FoFP From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Feb 26 12:10:07 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:10:07 +0000 Subject: video: One Eyed Bishops w/ Stewkey ( of NAZZ ) 'Route 66' Message-ID: Here's a video uploaded by Greg Elwell..'Route 66' from Highway to Healthcare III' ( September 30th , 2007 ) http://youtube.com/watch?v=uJ8zxYvlF-g lineup: Mike Burro: guitar/vocals Greg Elwell: guitar Stewkey: vocals Russ T. Blades: drums also available on our website at: http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 26 14:44:50 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:44:50 GMT Subject: The President's Tapes Message-ID: Sometimes life imitates art: "Gennifer Flowers is putting the tapes of her recorded conversations with Bill Clinton during their 12-year affair on the auction block, Vegas Confidential learned Monday." From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Feb 26 23:30:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Michael Von Coleman) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:30:08 -0600 Subject: (HW) oh come on (ramblings) In-Reply-To: <200802261552.m1QFqfAT028156@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 2/26/08, M Holmes wrote: ""There's also the Hawkwind Rocket - a little cardboard cut-out-and-assemble sheet. I've forgotten where that came from though...""" *thats the little explora usa promo thingie that has a rubber band attached but certainly did not look flightworthy, I never got the guts to take the band off so I could shove itc in a jap SR.....* ""And of course there's the Silver Machine Flying Saucer..."" *and after a long stressful day of being insulted non-stop, but by a genuine friend, I have come home to discover there is indeed life after death....who the hell needs a 1950's rocket when you can get a wee spinning disc from the high heavens.........good gwad please get and send a pic* *THANK YOU MIKE* FoFP From CWarburton at OAG.COM Wed Feb 27 07:16:08 2008 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (CWarburton at OAG.COM) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:16:08 -0000 Subject: OFF:Novelties: The Ten Best Post-Apocalyptic Survival Vehicles Message-ID: http://jalopnik.com/360213/the-ten-best-post+apocalyptic-survival-vehicl es Courtesy of boingboing - though as one poster on there put it, where's the Landmaster from Damnation Alley? 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From albert at CELLSUM.COM Wed Feb 27 07:35:29 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:35:29 -0500 Subject: More Re: Shameless In-Reply-To: <0CB5A67C-A41D-448F-BDB0-BEE5688E139E@cellsum.com> Message-ID: Woops. That gig is not at Arlene's Grocery but at the Club Midway a few blocks away on Avenue B. Sorry, Al On Feb 25, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Albert Bouchard wrote: > The gig went well. There were no listers there other than me but we > did have a few fans and bunch of regulars there and the place is > tiny so it was respectably full. We played a acoustic instrument > levels even though we played electric guitars but it was pretty > rocking. I put a couple badly recorded tracks up on our myspace page http://www.myspace.com/nderbelly > We are playing again in New York City at 9PM on Sunday March 9th at > Arlene's Grocery so that should be a better gig in terms of being > able to make a little noise. > Al > On Feb 19, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Jeff Berry wrote: > >>> In the interest of shameless self-promotion, NY metro area listers >>> =20 >>> should know that the =DCnderbelly is playing its debut gig this >>> Thursday = >>> =20 >>> Feb. 14, Valentine's Day at the 169 Bar in Chinatown. The address >>> is =20 >>> 169 East Broadway NY NY. The time is 11PM and the cover is $10. >>> >>> The =DCnderbelly is Albert Bouchard (BOC), Les Vegas (original >>> Soft =20 >>> White Underbelly vocalist), David Hirschberg (Brain Surgeons) and >>> =20 >>> Adrian Romero.=20= >> >> >> So, how did the gig go? Anyone? Buehler? >> >> JB >> > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Feb 27 11:51:02 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:51:02 -0800 Subject: The President's Tapes In-Reply-To: <200802261944.m1QJioNx006438@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I live in the Kansas City area and the American Jazz Museum recently acquired Bill Clinton's saxophone. Yeah, like he's up there with Bird, Miles and Coltrane. Still the museum is very good. M Holmes wrote: Sometimes life imitates art: "Gennifer Flowers is putting the tapes of her recorded conversations with Bill Clinton during their 12-year affair on the auction block, Vegas Confidential learned Monday." --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Feb 28 01:52:45 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:52:45 -0800 Subject: Alan Davey Live Dates Message-ID: The following live dates are Alan Davey/Gunslinger as special guests of Limehouse Lizzy (apart from Walthamstow and Wolverhampton in April which are with Litmus, and the Sonic World Festival, and Ipswich Railway which I think is Gunslinger solo), more to come: 14 Mar 2008 Wedgewood Rooms, Portsmouth 27 Mar 2008 The Brook, Southampton. 28 Mar 2008 Swan Theatre, High Wycombe. 4 Apr 2008 Academy, Newcastle. 5 Apr 2008 Robin 2, Bilston. 11 Apr 2008 The Standard, Walthamstow 12 Apr 2008 Little Civic, Wolverhampton 18 Apr 2008 Hambleton Forum, Northallerton. 19 Apr 2008 Arts Centre, Haverhill. 25 Apr 2008 Arts Centre, Solihull. 23 May 2008 The Wharf, Tavistock. 24 May 2008 Civic Hall, Whitchurch. 30 May 2008 Academy, Oxford. 7 Jun 2008 Rock City,Nottingham. 12 Jun 2008 Arts Centre, Salisbury. 13 Jun 2008 Queens Hall, Narberth. 21 Jun 2008 Ipswich Railway 18 Jul 2008 The Sonic World Fest, Ripley, Derbys Please repost to other forums/lists where appropriate - thanks! Ian --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 28 04:07:33 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:07:33 +0000 Subject: Lemmy interview In-Reply-To: <651311.47924.qm@web36912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 10:01:53AM -0800, gary shindler typed out: > http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/Interviews/08/Interview_with_Lemmy.htm That's a good interview. He seems a lot more chilled and talkative in it than he sometimes comes across, but he never lacks for things to say you haven't read before, does he? Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 28 10:02:41 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:02:41 +0000 Subject: NIK: Maximum Effect reissue (was Re: CD-R quality) In-Reply-To: <413B2196-DC02-432B-B385-EF2CE8FD045F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 07:21:40PM +0000, Paul Mather typed out: > On 12 Feb 2008, at 12:31 PM, trev wrote: > >a commercial re-release of max effect is on the cards soon...maybe > > Trev, you've just made my day! That's the best news I've heard for a > while. > > Let's hope "maybe" turns into "definitely." Absolutely! And Trev, if you're reading, please *please* make sure that if it happens, it gets `Paradise Beach' as a bonus track, I've been wanting a CD issue of that ever since I first heard it in a club played by someone who'd got hold of an original 45... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Feb 28 11:45:22 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:45:22 -0600 Subject: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay Message-ID: In case anybody cares, I just had a look at Eli Friedman's eBay auctions, and he is claiming his german Silver Machine has the alternate mix of 7by7. I am pretty sure my memory is in tact here, that the alt mix is pretty hard to get on any of the issues such as the UK, other than the FRENCH version so I am thinking he may not realize this makes it better (rarer) than the usual german issue From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Feb 28 12:37:33 2008 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:37:33 +0000 Subject: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802280845k1d8ef94aj9eb919b36ff962d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: is that the one that is on the Stasis CD? mike coleman wrote: > In case anybody cares, I just had a look at Eli Friedman's eBay auctions, > and he is claiming his german Silver Machine has the alternate mix of 7by7. > I am pretty sure my memory is in tact here, that the alt mix is pretty hard > to get on any of the issues such as the UK, other than the FRENCH version > so I am thinking he may not realize this makes it better (rarer) than the > usual german issue > > > > From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 28 12:27:18 2008 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (EliPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:27:18 EST Subject: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay Message-ID: I'd have to check the booklet that came with Stasis, which I'll do at home later, but I think you are correct. In a message dated 2/28/08 12:22:23 PM, alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: > is that the one that is on the Stasis CD? > ************** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Feb 28 13:58:38 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:58:38 -0500 Subject: NIK: Maximum Effect reissue (was Re: CD-R quality) In-Reply-To: <20080228150241.GE22268@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: And in related new, my replacement Maximum Effect CD has arrived safely at it's holding address in the States! :) Thanks, Trev! I still need to wrangle it down to Colombia (where the post enters by seaweed gate ...), but I'll manage it in the end. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 29 06:34:34 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:34:34 GMT Subject: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:45:22 -0600 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > In case anybody cares, I just had a look at Eli Friedman's eBay auctions, > and he is claiming his german Silver Machine has the alternate mix of 7by7. > I am pretty sure my memory is in tact here, that the alt mix is pretty hard > to get on any of the issues such as the UK, other than the FRENCH version > so I am thinking he may not realize this makes it better (rarer) than the > usual german issue The one Silver Machine I was looking for but never found was the die-cut one where they'd failed to cut it, I.E it was round. Anyone ever seen one? FoFP From Wilfried at MUENSTER.DE Fri Feb 29 07:27:09 2008 From: Wilfried at MUENSTER.DE (Wilfried Schuesler) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:27:09 +0100 Subject: AW: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay In-Reply-To: <200802291134.m1TBYYBI011865@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes, I have one. If you'd like to receive a photo let me please know. Wilfried -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] Im Auftrag von M Holmes Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 12:35 An: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Betreff: Re: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay mike coleman writes: > In case anybody cares, I just had a look at Eli Friedman's eBay auctions, > and he is claiming his german Silver Machine has the alternate mix of 7by7. > I am pretty sure my memory is in tact here, that the alt mix is pretty hard > to get on any of the issues such as the UK, other than the FRENCH version > so I am thinking he may not realize this makes it better (rarer) than the > usual german issue The one Silver Machine I was looking for but never found was the die-cut one where they'd failed to cut it, I.E it was round. Anyone ever seen one? FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 29 08:46:48 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:46:48 -0600 Subject: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay In-Reply-To: <71D15B82EB5F44E6B3A0E8D0C7F97872@ads.stadtmuenster.de> Message-ID: Damn, you guys had to bring that memory up I personally always thought that record was very stupid looking and did NOT do hw justice, but I did manage to get the uncut version, supposedly these ended up in a trash dumpster or something, and that transformed it into something I liked a lot mine was in a black glossy-ish? cutaway sleeve (like the green one that houses the pic lp 1st album) and it was nice looking I guess I will have to look and see if Wilfried's is in that same black sleeve On 2/29/08, Wilfried Schuesler wrote: > > Yes, I have one. > > If you'd like to receive a photo let me please know. > > Wilfried > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] Im > Auftrag von M Holmes > Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Februar 2008 12:35 > An: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Betreff: Re: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay > > mike coleman writes: > > > In case anybody cares, I just had a look at Eli Friedman's eBay > auctions, > > and he is claiming his german Silver Machine has the alternate mix of > 7by7. > > I am pretty sure my memory is in tact here, that the alt mix is pretty > hard > > to get on any of the issues such as the UK, other than the FRENCH > version > > so I am thinking he may not realize this makes it better (rarer) than > the > > usual german issue > > The one Silver Machine I was looking for but never found was the die-cut > one where they'd failed to cut it, I.E it was round. > > Anyone ever seen one? > > FoFP > From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Fri Feb 29 09:25:56 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:25:56 +0100 Subject: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802290546t26667ccbl995188e177646aa8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:46:48 -0600, mike coleman wrote > Damn, you guys had to bring that memory up > I personally always thought that record was very stupid looking and > did NOT do hw justice, but I did manage to get the uncut version, OK, now you've got me wondering... so, the uncut version is round, but then how does the cut version look? Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 29 09:59:29 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:59:29 -0600 Subject: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay In-Reply-To: <20080229142200.M72815@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: On 2/29/08, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > > OK, now you've got me wondering... so, the uncut version is round, but > then > how does the cut version look? good question.....I actually never even bought the regular version until maybe even after?? I had the uncut, and oh yes, let's not forget we also had to buy a 12" with that gaye biker on lame acid (I'm kidding, really) as after I posted I realized that opinions vary and some people may really like that depiction........funny thing, here I am and I'm not sure how to answer your question other than "oddly shaped"? "oddly cut"?? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Feb 29 13:19:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:19:06 -0600 Subject: Fwd: (HW) Silver Mach, w/ alt mix 7 x 7 on ebay In-Reply-To: <17d80c610802290659p3ce2f6ees64b23a2f49871b39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: uhhh, as I just sat down here it occured to me: I guess it was in the shape of the bike, apologies I didn't think of that in the previous On 2/29/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 2/29/08, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > > > > OK, now you've got me wondering... so, the uncut version is round, but > > then > > how does the cut version look? > > > good question.....I actually never even bought the regular version until > maybe even after?? I had the uncut, and oh yes, let's not forget we also had > to buy a 12" with that gaye biker on lame acid (I'm kidding, really) as > after I posted I realized that opinions vary and some people may really like > that depiction........funny thing, here I am and I'm not sure how to answer > your question other than "oddly shaped"? "oddly cut"?? > > >