From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Dec 1 13:44:32 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 18:44:32 +0000 Subject: The Farewell One Eyed Bishops show 11/29/2009 ( so long and thanks for all the fish! ) Message-ID: Greetings friends, I am happy that the farewell gig is done. It was a good one, and a good crowd of about 75-80 people. The One Eyed Bishops began as a side project to Sloterdijk, but within a short time, it was the more active of the two bands. Seems blues/boogie/skiffle/roots& r&b have a mich wider audience than spacerock. We had a good run, but for at least a few months, I have to put it down. I am currently more interested in visual arts ( drawing & painting ), as well a long postponed forrey into the 'great outdoors'. I am moving off the family farm where I have resided since 1968, and so it is with mixed emotions that this break comes along. Simply put, I need to adjust to my new surroundings, and express myself in a different medium. I love playing live music, but with the exception of this farewell gig, I have sort of been on auto pilotduring the last few shows. I need to recapture the sincerity I put into the music, and though it was there for sure on the 29th, it's been waning, as I yearn to do something else for awhile. I would like to thank everyone who came out for this show, and would like to offer a 'special above all' thanks to my Dad, Erik Burro, whom upon realizing he had forgotten about doing the sound for the show some 6 hours drive or so away, made the effort to return early from his holiday to help us pull this off properly. Thanks, also to the band; Jeff Berry ( and his wife Loree ) who travelled all the way down from near Albany New York, to be part of this and to Stewkey lead singer of The Nazz and one of my best friends. We missed Maria Stella, and Jay Adcock, but ' the show must go on', and it did. We played three sets, and and I don't know how many songs, but will post the set lists when they are available. Also thanks to Linda Mac for taking some nice pictures, Seth Kalman, Scott Abbamonte, and to everyone at the corner house. We'll see you whenever we are ready to start up again ..Peace, Mike Burro PS: Look out for new Sloterdijk music in 2009! at: http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 Visit Stewkey at:http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkey _________________________________________________________________ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the ?I?m a PC? Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Mon Dec 1 13:56:15 2008 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 13:56:15 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind (Hawkwind Tribute Show in Wash.D,C, USA) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ?This is copied from the message board at Progressiveears.com: On Saturday, December 20, there is a Hawkwind tribute night entitled "Psychedelic Warlords: A Tribute to Hawkwind" happening at the Velvet Lounge in Washington DC.? All bands appearing will be performing Hawkwind songs.? The lineup so far consists of DC avant-improv/psych band Kohoutek, Ultrabunny (featuring orignal Bunnybrains members Malcolm Tent and Bobby Bunny) and probably Philly psych band Bardo Pond although they are not 100% confirmed at this time. One other act TBA. There will also be killer psych/prog/kraut DJ sets downstairs by DJs Naraku, Provoke and Elephant Bone.? $8 cover charge, doors at 9:00? It should be quite the mindfryer...? Thanks,? John? www.velvetloungedc.com? http://611florida.alkem.org/kohoutek/frizz.html? http://ultrabunny.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Dec 1 19:31:08 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:31:08 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind (Hawkwind Tribute Show in Wash.D,C, USA) In-Reply-To: <8CB21FD9F24F354-4D0-B51@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Sounds like a great deal for a fun time, too bad I'm so far away, you can ring in Winter Solstice in style. Have a great time. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of elipxr5 at AOL.COM Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:56 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind (Hawkwind Tribute Show in Wash.D,C, USA) This is copied from the message board at Progressiveears.com: On Saturday, December 20, there is a Hawkwind tribute night entitled "Psychedelic Warlords: A Tribute to Hawkwind" happening at the Velvet Lounge in Washington DC. All bands appearing will be performing Hawkwind songs. The lineup so far consists of DC avant-improv/psych band Kohoutek, Ultrabunny (featuring orignal Bunnybrains members Malcolm Tent and Bobby Bunny) and probably Philly psych band Bardo Pond although they are not 100% confirmed at this time. One other act TBA. There will also be killer psych/prog/kraut DJ sets downstairs by DJs Naraku, Provoke and Elephant Bone. $8 cover charge, doors at 9:00 It should be quite the mindfryer... Thanks, John www.velvetloungedc.com http://611florida.alkem.org/kohoutek/frizz.html http://ultrabunny.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 1 20:06:07 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:06:07 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind (Hawkwind Tribute Show in Wash.D,C, USA) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I suggest that heretofore (whatever that means), that any playing or recording of Hawkwind tributes see all monies going into pots for the importation of the real thing back into this disgusting country, and that a newly somehow renigged version of the PLASMATICS be the opening act for every show time for the man-eating MAGGOTS!!!!!! On 12/1/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Sounds like a great deal for a fun time, too bad I'm so far away, you can > ring in Winter Solstice in style. Have a great time. > > Kaduflyer > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of elipxr5 at AOL.COM > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:56 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Hawkwind (Hawkwind Tribute Show in Wash.D,C, USA) > > > This is copied from the message board at Progressiveears.com: > > On Saturday, December 20, there is a Hawkwind tribute night entitled > "Psychedelic Warlords: A Tribute to Hawkwind" happening at the Velvet Lounge > in Washington DC. > All bands appearing will be performing Hawkwind songs. > > The lineup so far consists of DC avant-improv/psych band Kohoutek, > Ultrabunny (featuring orignal Bunnybrains members Malcolm Tent and Bobby > Bunny) and probably Philly psych band Bardo Pond although they are not 100% > confirmed at this time. One other act TBA. There will also be killer > psych/prog/kraut DJ sets downstairs by DJs Naraku, Provoke and Elephant > Bone. > > $8 cover charge, doors at 9:00 > > It should be quite the mindfryer... > > Thanks, > John > > > www.velvetloungedc.com > http://611florida.alkem.org/kohoutek/frizz.html > http://ultrabunny.com/ > > > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Dec 1 23:31:42 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:31:42 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind (Hawkwind Tribute Show in Wash.D,C, USA) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812011706r4b9370ddndb228accf809c843@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Mike, that sounds like fun, I have a TV to donate. I'll be awake for a while, so feel free to call. Later, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:06 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind (Hawkwind Tribute Show in Wash.D,C, USA) I suggest that heretofore (whatever that means), that any playing or recording of Hawkwind tributes see all monies going into pots for the importation of the real thing back into this disgusting country, and that a newly somehow renigged version of the PLASMATICS be the opening act for every show time for the man-eating MAGGOTS!!!!!! On 12/1/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Sounds like a great deal for a fun time, too bad I'm so far away, you can > ring in Winter Solstice in style. Have a great time. > > Kaduflyer > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of elipxr5 at AOL.COM > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:56 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Hawkwind (Hawkwind Tribute Show in Wash.D,C, USA) > > > This is copied from the message board at Progressiveears.com: > > On Saturday, December 20, there is a Hawkwind tribute night entitled > "Psychedelic Warlords: A Tribute to Hawkwind" happening at the Velvet Lounge > in Washington DC. > All bands appearing will be performing Hawkwind songs. > > The lineup so far consists of DC avant-improv/psych band Kohoutek, > Ultrabunny (featuring orignal Bunnybrains members Malcolm Tent and Bobby > Bunny) and probably Philly psych band Bardo Pond although they are not 100% > confirmed at this time. One other act TBA. There will also be killer > psych/prog/kraut DJ sets downstairs by DJs Naraku, Provoke and Elephant > Bone. > > $8 cover charge, doors at 9:00 > > It should be quite the mindfryer... > > Thanks, > John > > > www.velvetloungedc.com > http://611florida.alkem.org/kohoutek/frizz.html > http://ultrabunny.com/ > > > > > From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Dec 2 12:30:49 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:30:49 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Winter Tour - Glasgow bound Message-ID: ah - I've just been looking at the Met Office website http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/index.html and found the following: It could be they are getting a bit over-excited about what will simply turn out to be a rainy day - which has happened before! - but please take care everyone and have a safe journey north! >There is a moderate risk of a severe event affecting parts of Scotland and northern England. Snow spreading from the west Wednesday evening is likely to become persistent and heavy at times into Thursday morning, especially on hills, and potentially to some lower levels. Considerable drifting is likely over higher ground in strong winds. The snow, turning to rain at lower levels, will clear eastwards by Thursday afternoon. Issued at: 1555 Tue 2 Dec< Best wishes jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Dec 2 13:42:28 2008 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:42:28 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Winter Tour - Glasgow bound In-Reply-To: A<78FD10407E1F4AA484A9CEF8DAF41707@jillspc> Message-ID: Hmm...We get about 120 inches of snow per winter here. Hope you folks don't have too tough a time of it! tj -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jill Strobridge Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Hawkwind Winter Tour - Glasgow bound ah - I've just been looking at the Met Office website http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/index.html and found the following: It could be they are getting a bit over-excited about what will simply turn out to be a rainy day - which has happened before! - but please take care everyone and have a safe journey north! >There is a moderate risk of a severe event affecting parts of Scotland and northern England. Snow spreading from the west Wednesday evening is likely to become persistent and heavy at times into Thursday morning, especially on hills, and potentially to some lower levels. Considerable drifting is likely over higher ground in strong winds. The snow, turning to rain at lower levels, will clear eastwards by Thursday afternoon. Issued at: 1555 Tue 2 Dec< Best wishes jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Dec 2 14:12:47 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:12:47 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <000b01c94fe4$08fdac30$0202a8c0@Laptop> <8CB1DFC376F43BA-984-6DD@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> <17d80c610811261015s42b49847y554a5b4b128a5ada@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:15 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > while we're putting thigs right can we PLEASE get that "1999" party or > even > the abbreviated version pressed up on vinyl?? > there are those who think CD's are just half-a-lick away from POSTAGE > STAMPS...we'll pay A LOT OF MONEY for this > and further, I am sure the Atomhenge folks are delicoious people but I for > one am NONE-TOO-AMUSED being offered yet more compilation CDS, in order > that > I get unreleased material > put the frickin' unreleased stuff with their respective albums as bonus > tracks and do vinyl versions as well... > RRRRG > > > On 11/26/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: >> >> Looks like all the other record companies who have hawkwind catalogues >> are >> trying to get in and sell CD's off the back of the Atomhenge series.... >> >> I know a buddy of mine bought something 2 weeks ago thinking it was from >> the new series... had to give him the bad news.... >> >> So I'd say expect all the usual CR*P to get another dirty airing whilst >> the >> back catalogue gets released... >> >> Still with any luck it will kick EMI into actually getting Warriors >> released in newly remastered spangliness. Got a copy on CD now, but it >> was >> which is more evil the boot from e-bay or quality MP3 via P2P... So I >> went >> the Boot route cos at least there more chance of them getting caught and >> the >> band getting some royalties.... >> >> Chuurs loike - now where's me cider >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Bottomley >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 4:28 pm >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> >> >> This looks like a compilation of Voiceprint material. I haven't heard it, >> but would guess that tracks 1 & 2 are from Weird Vol 3 (2 aka >> "Elements"). >> 3 >> through 7 from Atomhenge 76. 8 through 12 are the Sonic Assassins tracks >> found on Weird Vol 1 (amongst others). The last 2 I'm not sure about. >> MotU >> could be the Greasy Truckers version as per Weird Vol 6 & the version of >> Silver Machine may be the Yuri Gagarin version - both are the right sort >> of >> length, anyway. >> >> I'd very much doubt if it's necessary for anyone other than True >> Kollectors. >> >> >> Hope this helps a little. >> >> Dave >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Ian Jeffcock >> Sent: 26 November 2008 16:15 >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> >> Saw the captioned CD title for sale on amazon and hmv.co.jp >> Anyone got any idea where the recordings on this release might be from? >> >> 1 Circles (04:30) >> 2 I Am the Eye (That Looks Within) (04:24) >> 3 Paradox (04:26) >> 4 Wind of Change (04:06) >> 5 Back on the Streets (04:54) >> 6 Sonic Attack (06:27) >> 7 Kerb Crawler (05:35) >> 8 Over the Top (07:48) >> 9 Magnu (03:02) >> 10 Angels of Life (05:33) >> 11 Freefall (07:59) >> 12 Death Trap (05:04) >> 13 Master of the Universe (07:41) >> 14 Silver Machine (03:33) >> >> Cheers, Ian. >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Dec 2 14:17:19 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:17:19 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <000b01c94fe4$08fdac30$0202a8c0@Laptop> <8CB1DFC376F43BA-984-6DD@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> <17d80c610811261015s42b49847y554a5b4b128a5ada@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Why don't you stop talking about other people and start talking about me...ME d'ya hear. For instance, just imagine if there was a full-length video of the only gig that the legendary Inner City Hawks ever played, and it was really good, and it was about to be unleashed upon the Blessed Ones. Just imagine that ...and in time for Xmas phew! trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:15 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > while we're putting thigs right can we PLEASE get that "1999" party or > even > the abbreviated version pressed up on vinyl?? > there are those who think CD's are just half-a-lick away from POSTAGE > STAMPS...we'll pay A LOT OF MONEY for this > and further, I am sure the Atomhenge folks are delicoious people but I for > one am NONE-TOO-AMUSED being offered yet more compilation CDS, in order > that > I get unreleased material > put the frickin' unreleased stuff with their respective albums as bonus > tracks and do vinyl versions as well... > RRRRG > > > On 11/26/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: >> >> Looks like all the other record companies who have hawkwind catalogues >> are >> trying to get in and sell CD's off the back of the Atomhenge series.... >> >> I know a buddy of mine bought something 2 weeks ago thinking it was from >> the new series... had to give him the bad news.... >> >> So I'd say expect all the usual CR*P to get another dirty airing whilst >> the >> back catalogue gets released... >> >> Still with any luck it will kick EMI into actually getting Warriors >> released in newly remastered spangliness. Got a copy on CD now, but it >> was >> which is more evil the boot from e-bay or quality MP3 via P2P... So I >> went >> the Boot route cos at least there more chance of them getting caught and >> the >> band getting some royalties.... >> >> Chuurs loike - now where's me cider >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Bottomley >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 4:28 pm >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> >> >> This looks like a compilation of Voiceprint material. I haven't heard it, >> but would guess that tracks 1 & 2 are from Weird Vol 3 (2 aka >> "Elements"). >> 3 >> through 7 from Atomhenge 76. 8 through 12 are the Sonic Assassins tracks >> found on Weird Vol 1 (amongst others). The last 2 I'm not sure about. >> MotU >> could be the Greasy Truckers version as per Weird Vol 6 & the version of >> Silver Machine may be the Yuri Gagarin version - both are the right sort >> of >> length, anyway. >> >> I'd very much doubt if it's necessary for anyone other than True >> Kollectors. >> >> >> Hope this helps a little. >> >> Dave >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Ian Jeffcock >> Sent: 26 November 2008 16:15 >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> >> Saw the captioned CD title for sale on amazon and hmv.co.jp >> Anyone got any idea where the recordings on this release might be from? >> >> 1 Circles (04:30) >> 2 I Am the Eye (That Looks Within) (04:24) >> 3 Paradox (04:26) >> 4 Wind of Change (04:06) >> 5 Back on the Streets (04:54) >> 6 Sonic Attack (06:27) >> 7 Kerb Crawler (05:35) >> 8 Over the Top (07:48) >> 9 Magnu (03:02) >> 10 Angels of Life (05:33) >> 11 Freefall (07:59) >> 12 Death Trap (05:04) >> 13 Master of the Universe (07:41) >> 14 Silver Machine (03:33) >> >> Cheers, Ian. >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Dec 2 14:30:27 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:30:27 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 02 Dec 2008, at 14:17 , trev wrote: > For instance, just imagine if there was a full-length video of the > only gig that the legendary Inner City Hawks ever played, and it > was really good, and it was about to be unleashed upon the Blessed > Ones. > Just imagine that I'd settle for a DVD-quality release of the "Paint Your Windows White" video! That was cool. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Dec 2 15:11:57 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:11:57 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The support band were better!;) --- On Tue, 2/12/08, trev wrote: From: trev Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008, 7:17 PM Why don't you stop talking about other people and start talking about me...ME d'ya hear. For instance, just imagine if there was a full-length video of the only gig that the legendary Inner City Hawks ever played, and it was really good, and it was about to be unleashed upon the Blessed Ones. Just imagine that ...and in time for Xmas phew! trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:15 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > while we're putting thigs right can we PLEASE get that "1999" party or even > the abbreviated version pressed up on vinyl?? > there are those who think CD's are just half-a-lick away from POSTAGE > STAMPS...we'll pay A LOT OF MONEY for this > and further, I am sure the Atomhenge folks are delicoious people but I for > one am NONE-TOO-AMUSED being offered yet more compilation CDS, in order that > I get unreleased material > put the frickin' unreleased stuff with their respective albums as bonus > tracks and do vinyl versions as well... > RRRRG > > > On 11/26/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: >> >> Looks like all the other record companies who have hawkwind catalogues are >> trying to get in and sell CD's off the back of the Atomhenge series.... >> >> I know a buddy of mine bought something 2 weeks ago thinking it was from >> the new series... had to give him the bad news.... >> >> So I'd say expect all the usual CR*P to get another dirty airing whilst the >> back catalogue gets released... >> >> Still with any luck it will kick EMI into actually getting Warriors >> released in newly remastered spangliness. Got a copy on CD now, but it was >> which is more evil the boot from e-bay or quality MP3 via P2P... So I went >> the Boot route cos at least there more chance of them getting caught and the >> band getting some royalties.... >> >> Chuurs loike - now where's me cider >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Bottomley >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 4:28 pm >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> >> >> This looks like a compilation of Voiceprint material. I haven't heard it, >> but would guess that tracks 1 & 2 are from Weird Vol 3 (2 aka "Elements"). >> 3 >> through 7 from Atomhenge 76. 8 through 12 are the Sonic Assassins tracks >> found on Weird Vol 1 (amongst others). The last 2 I'm not sure about. MotU >> could be the Greasy Truckers version as per Weird Vol 6 & the version of >> Silver Machine may be the Yuri Gagarin version - both are the right sort of >> length, anyway. >> >> I'd very much doubt if it's necessary for anyone other than True >> Kollectors. >> >> >> Hope this helps a little. >> >> Dave >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Ian Jeffcock >> Sent: 26 November 2008 16:15 >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> >> Saw the captioned CD title for sale on amazon and hmv.co.jp >> Anyone got any idea where the recordings on this release might be from? >> >> 1 Circles (04:30) >> 2 I Am the Eye (That Looks Within) (04:24) >> 3 Paradox (04:26) >> 4 Wind of Change (04:06) >> 5 Back on the Streets (04:54) >> 6 Sonic Attack (06:27) >> 7 Kerb Crawler (05:35) >> 8 Over the Top (07:48) >> 9 Magnu (03:02) >> 10 Angels of Life (05:33) >> 11 Freefall (07:59) >> 12 Death Trap (05:04) >> 13 Master of the Universe (07:41) >> 14 Silver Machine (03:33) >> >> Cheers, Ian. >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 2 15:42:30 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:42:30 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: will it float? this is NTSC land baby baby On 12/2/08, trev wrote: > > Why don't you stop talking about other people and start talking about > me...ME d'ya hear. > > For instance, just imagine if there was a full-length video of the only gig > that the legendary Inner City Hawks ever played, and it was really good, and > it was about to be unleashed upon the Blessed Ones. > > Just imagine that > > ...and in time for Xmas > > phew! > > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:15 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > > while we're putting thigs right can we PLEASE get that "1999" party or even >> the abbreviated version pressed up on vinyl?? >> there are those who think CD's are just half-a-lick away from POSTAGE >> STAMPS...we'll pay A LOT OF MONEY for this >> and further, I am sure the Atomhenge folks are delicoious people but I for >> one am NONE-TOO-AMUSED being offered yet more compilation CDS, in order >> that >> I get unreleased material >> put the frickin' unreleased stuff with their respective albums as bonus >> tracks and do vinyl versions as well... >> RRRRG >> >> >> On 11/26/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: >> >>> >>> Looks like all the other record companies who have hawkwind catalogues >>> are >>> trying to get in and sell CD's off the back of the Atomhenge series.... >>> >>> I know a buddy of mine bought something 2 weeks ago thinking it was from >>> the new series... had to give him the bad news.... >>> >>> So I'd say expect all the usual CR*P to get another dirty airing whilst >>> the >>> back catalogue gets released... >>> >>> Still with any luck it will kick EMI into actually getting Warriors >>> released in newly remastered spangliness. Got a copy on CD now, but it >>> was >>> which is more evil the boot from e-bay or quality MP3 via P2P... So I >>> went >>> the Boot route cos at least there more chance of them getting caught and >>> the >>> band getting some royalties.... >>> >>> Chuurs loike - now where's me cider >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: David Bottomley >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 4:28 pm >>> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> >>> >>> This looks like a compilation of Voiceprint material. I haven't heard it, >>> but would guess that tracks 1 & 2 are from Weird Vol 3 (2 aka >>> "Elements"). >>> 3 >>> through 7 from Atomhenge 76. 8 through 12 are the Sonic Assassins tracks >>> found on Weird Vol 1 (amongst others). The last 2 I'm not sure about. >>> MotU >>> could be the Greasy Truckers version as per Weird Vol 6 & the version of >>> Silver Machine may be the Yuri Gagarin version - both are the right sort >>> of >>> length, anyway. >>> >>> I'd very much doubt if it's necessary for anyone other than True >>> Kollectors. >>> >>> >>> Hope this helps a little. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Ian Jeffcock >>> Sent: 26 November 2008 16:15 >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> >>> Saw the captioned CD title for sale on amazon and hmv.co.jp >>> Anyone got any idea where the recordings on this release might be from? >>> >>> 1 Circles (04:30) >>> 2 I Am the Eye (That Looks Within) (04:24) >>> 3 Paradox (04:26) >>> 4 Wind of Change (04:06) >>> 5 Back on the Streets (04:54) >>> 6 Sonic Attack (06:27) >>> 7 Kerb Crawler (05:35) >>> 8 Over the Top (07:48) >>> 9 Magnu (03:02) >>> 10 Angels of Life (05:33) >>> 11 Freefall (07:59) >>> 12 Death Trap (05:04) >>> 13 Master of the Universe (07:41) >>> 14 Silver Machine (03:33) >>> >>> Cheers, Ian. >>> >>> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 2 15:44:55 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:44:55 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812021242y70696c83j5519e1d58bd8c2e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: do me one up before I buy anybody a stupid gift at a holiday I can't get behind no offense to Jesus Christ whatever he was On 12/2/08, mike coleman wrote: > > will it float? this is NTSC land baby baby > > > > On 12/2/08, trev wrote: >> >> Why don't you stop talking about other people and start talking about >> me...ME d'ya hear. >> >> For instance, just imagine if there was a full-length video of the only >> gig that the legendary Inner City Hawks ever played, and it was really good, >> and it was about to be unleashed upon the Blessed Ones. >> >> Just imagine that >> >> ...and in time for Xmas >> >> phew! >> >> >> trev >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:15 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> while we're putting thigs right can we PLEASE get that "1999" party or >>> even >>> the abbreviated version pressed up on vinyl?? >>> there are those who think CD's are just half-a-lick away from POSTAGE >>> STAMPS...we'll pay A LOT OF MONEY for this >>> and further, I am sure the Atomhenge folks are delicoious people but I >>> for >>> one am NONE-TOO-AMUSED being offered yet more compilation CDS, in order >>> that >>> I get unreleased material >>> put the frickin' unreleased stuff with their respective albums as bonus >>> tracks and do vinyl versions as well... >>> RRRRG >>> >>> >>> On 11/26/08, iainferguson at aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Looks like all the other record companies who have hawkwind catalogues >>>> are >>>> trying to get in and sell CD's off the back of the Atomhenge series.... >>>> >>>> I know a buddy of mine bought something 2 weeks ago thinking it was from >>>> the new series... had to give him the bad news.... >>>> >>>> So I'd say expect all the usual CR*P to get another dirty airing whilst >>>> the >>>> back catalogue gets released... >>>> >>>> Still with any luck it will kick EMI into actually getting Warriors >>>> released in newly remastered spangliness. Got a copy on CD now, but it >>>> was >>>> which is more evil the boot from e-bay or quality MP3 via P2P... So I >>>> went >>>> the Boot route cos at least there more chance of them getting caught and >>>> the >>>> band getting some royalties.... >>>> >>>> Chuurs loike - now where's me cider >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: David Bottomley >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> Sent: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 4:28 pm >>>> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This looks like a compilation of Voiceprint material. I haven't heard >>>> it, >>>> but would guess that tracks 1 & 2 are from Weird Vol 3 (2 aka >>>> "Elements"). >>>> 3 >>>> through 7 from Atomhenge 76. 8 through 12 are the Sonic Assassins tracks >>>> found on Weird Vol 1 (amongst others). The last 2 I'm not sure about. >>>> MotU >>>> could be the Greasy Truckers version as per Weird Vol 6 & the version of >>>> Silver Machine may be the Yuri Gagarin version - both are the right sort >>>> of >>>> length, anyway. >>>> >>>> I'd very much doubt if it's necessary for anyone other than True >>>> Kollectors. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hope this helps a little. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> ] >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Ian Jeffcock >>>> Sent: 26 November 2008 16:15 >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >>>> >>>> Saw the captioned CD title for sale on amazon and hmv.co.jp >>>> Anyone got any idea where the recordings on this release might be from? >>>> >>>> 1 Circles (04:30) >>>> 2 I Am the Eye (That Looks Within) (04:24) >>>> 3 Paradox (04:26) >>>> 4 Wind of Change (04:06) >>>> 5 Back on the Streets (04:54) >>>> 6 Sonic Attack (06:27) >>>> 7 Kerb Crawler (05:35) >>>> 8 Over the Top (07:48) >>>> 9 Magnu (03:02) >>>> 10 Angels of Life (05:33) >>>> 11 Freefall (07:59) >>>> 12 Death Trap (05:04) >>>> 13 Master of the Universe (07:41) >>>> 14 Silver Machine (03:33) >>>> >>>> Cheers, Ian. >>>> >>>> >>> > From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Tue Dec 2 18:28:19 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:28:19 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:30:27 -0500, you sent through the ether: >I'd settle for a DVD-quality release of the "Paint Your Windows >White" video! That was cool. :) Kick him while he's down why don't you.. :) ..and be careful what you wish for, you just might get it! -S. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Dec 2 18:30:31 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 23:30:31 +0000 Subject: BOC: Killer Kowalski In-Reply-To: <20081125183843.jo1xthxqjkgog4gg@webmail.bath.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 06:38:43PM +0000, Mike Godwin typed out: > I see that Killer Kowalski, mentioned in Meltzer's song 'Donovan's > Monkey' has just died. And I thought Meltzer was making him up! He got an obituary in _The Guardian_ in the UK, it rather surprised me as I'd thought similarly... Yours, Jon ObCD: Farflung - _A Wound in Eternity_ why have I not yet raved at you all about how good this album is eh? what's wrong with me etc. -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 2 19:44:46 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:44:46 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <43hbj4942dmmt8b9cq1utr39boqj0fs2e9@4ax.com> Message-ID: On 12/2/08, Steve Pond wrote: > > ..and be careful what you > wish for, you just might get it! > > -S. > > <<<<<<>>>>>>> ps-sincere apologies my religious remarks people, I think I can pack them up my friend Pierre got audibly frightened when I tried to share my thoughts I am very amused, of course " I ain't gonna live forever", and i got more Motorhead bootlegs than I'll ever need From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Tue Dec 2 19:50:31 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:50:31 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812021644q5d3dc151ud1eb94536338c69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:44:46 -0600, you sent through the ether: >> <<<<<<>>>>>>> What's that you say?? Another studio version of Spirit of the Age you say? Why, I can help with that right now! www.krankschaft.com Music section, high quality MP3.. 8 minutes 50.. what more could you want.. -S. From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Wed Dec 3 03:57:51 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 03:57:51 -0500 Subject: FW: Amon Duul Message-ID: I got this email from John Weinzierl of Amon D??l II. He doesn't give the web site URL, which is www.amonduul.de. Check out the movie link for some cool old videos. Also note he says they plan to post live shows to the site so might want to bookmark it. Jerry _____ From: John Weinzierl [mailto:john at amonduul.de] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:55 PM Subject: Amon Duul Dear friends, we have worked a bit on our web site, and it?s going to be a real website very soon. Since today it?s possible to see and listen to all our legal albums, old and new. We have included a shop now, so you can purchase all the items offered right away. Besides our vintage albums you can get my albums "Weinzierl meets Calvert" and "Pure Spirit" and "Wounded" of my trio "JHM", directly from our site. We?re planning to transmit some of our live concerts on our site as well. Since today you can see pics?n?clips, if you find the movie button. This is the beginning of our communication directly with you through our site. About new songs, new albums, latenight seesions, the lot.... You?ll be asked your oppinion to all kind of things and projects there, so we can keep up the fight together. But please be patient with us, we?re still constructing and adding things, and sometimes - as you all know - these things take a litte longer, if it?s done right. So check it out! Love to all of you John Weinzierl From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Dec 3 04:44:22 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:44:22 GMT Subject: Hawkwind Winter Tour - Glasgow bound In-Reply-To: Theodore O Jackson's message of Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:42:28 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Dec 3 05:31:18 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:31:18 +0000 Subject: HW: Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <809440.94842.qm@web26905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 08:02:35PM +0000, Ian Abrahams typed out: > Iain, to be fair the anthologies are principally marketed for the > casual listener as an introduction to these albums which have been > unavailable for so long, adding one or two unreleased tracks adds > value for the die-hard collectors who must have everything when they > could have been shelling out for a complete set of previously released > tracks, but its not the target audience for these releases. Wait until > you get Hawklords... the track list there on the bonus disc looks like > it'll blow us all away!! These anthologies are certainly good selections which should cause any new fan to bite deep, though I do wonder whether a new fan will really shell out 20 quid on a box set. The two-version _Epoch-Eclipse_ approach seemed like a good one here, especially with its exclusive content. As for contents, though, I am noticing two things: (i) the unreleased stuff is all on the first set - does this indicate that the vaults were already emptied to make the EBS recordings? (ii) some well-judged inclusions and exclusions (one track only from _Out and Intake_, only two from _Zones_, well, fair enough, though only two from _California Brainstorm_ is a bit of a pity) but odd firstly to see anything from _White Zone_ (is that in the reissue program?!) and *nothing* from _Love in Space_! It is being reissued, right? That said, I will freely admit that I will be surprised, and pleasantly so, if we make it to the next stage of reissues, because of the money issues I outlined last time this subject came up, but I was ever the cynic, hey? And I'm as keen to have CDs of the Charisma stuff as anyone. A third thing, though, that hadn't struck me before. Had anyone else noticed that Dave and Nik are now on the same label again? Look: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/atomhenge/releases.htm Joint tour anyone? :-) Yours, Jon ObCassette: R. E. M. - _Life's Rich Pageant_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Dec 2 14:39:39 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:39:39 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers Message-ID: i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob calvert too! c. ________________________________ From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008 20:30:27 Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers On 02 Dec 2008, at 14:17 , trev wrote: > For instance, just imagine if there was a full-length video of the only gig that the legendary Inner City Hawks ever played, and it was really good, and it was about to be unleashed upon the Blessed Ones. > Just imagine that I'd settle for a DVD-quality release of the "Paint Your Windows White" video! That was cool. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 3 10:20:14 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 09:20:14 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <503657.65238.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob > calvert too! is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his pipe?? do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, where Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted their converstation?? well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? ** From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Dec 3 10:22:54 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:22:54 +0000 Subject: HW: Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <20081203103118.GJ6536@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: But the CDs aren't being reissued chronologically so its not a case of the Charisma ones arriving and then everything tailing off. I mean, Esoteric have done a comprehensive Man reissue over the last 18 months so I don't really see a problem with a Hawkwind programme over the same timescale... even in these troubled times. Ian --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: From: Jonathan Jarrett Subject: Re: HW: Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 10:31 AM On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 08:02:35PM +0000, Ian Abrahams typed out: > Iain, to be fair the anthologies are principally marketed for the > casual listener as an introduction to these albums which have been > unavailable for so long, adding one or two unreleased tracks adds > value for the die-hard collectors who must have everything when they > could have been shelling out for a complete set of previously released > tracks, but its not the target audience for these releases. Wait until > you get Hawklords... the track list there on the bonus disc looks like > it'll blow us all away!! These anthologies are certainly good selections which should cause any new fan to bite deep, though I do wonder whether a new fan will really shell out 20 quid on a box set. The two-version _Epoch-Eclipse_ approach seemed like a good one here, especially with its exclusive content. As for contents, though, I am noticing two things: (i) the unreleased stuff is all on the first set - does this indicate that the vaults were already emptied to make the EBS recordings? (ii) some well-judged inclusions and exclusions (one track only from _Out and Intake_, only two from _Zones_, well, fair enough, though only two from _California Brainstorm_ is a bit of a pity) but odd firstly to see anything from _White Zone_ (is that in the reissue program?!) and *nothing* from _Love in Space_! It is being reissued, right? That said, I will freely admit that I will be surprised, and pleasantly so, if we make it to the next stage of reissues, because of the money issues I outlined last time this subject came up, but I was ever the cynic, hey? And I'm as keen to have CDs of the Charisma stuff as anyone. A third thing, though, that hadn't struck me before. Had anyone else noticed that Dave and Nik are now on the same label again? Look: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/atomhenge/releases.htm Joint tour anyone? :-) Yours, Jon ObCassette: R. E. M. - _Life's Rich Pageant_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 3 10:48:56 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:48:56 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <000b01c94fe4$08fdac30$0202a8c0@Laptop> <8CB1DFC376F43BA-984-6DD@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> <17d80c610811261015s42b49847y554a5b4b128a5ada@mail.gmail.com> <503657.65238.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <17d80c610812030720y3d790dcft756215b07262bd12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: give it to me -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob >> calvert too! > > > is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his pipe?? > do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, > where > Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted > their > converstation?? > well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? > bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? > ** > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 3 13:30:01 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:30:01 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks whipped and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... oh, you want my cd..... On 12/3/08, trev wrote: > > give it to me > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > > On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >>> >>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob >>> calvert too! >>> >> >> >> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his pipe?? >> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, >> where >> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted >> their >> converstation?? >> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >> ** >> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 3 14:56:38 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:56:38 -0600 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers Message-ID: I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the disc,,,,,it's HIS!!! On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: > > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks whipped > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... > oh, you want my cd..... > > > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >> >> give it to me >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob >>>> calvert too! >>>> >>> >>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his >>> pipe?? >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, >>> where >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted >>> their >>> converstation?? >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>> ** >>> >>> > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Wed Dec 3 18:39:10 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:39:10 -0500 Subject: Looking for Dave Henderson who wrote for Sounds magazine Message-ID: Sorry folks, totally off topic, but you space rockers are always such a wealth of information so I hope you don't mind. Does anyone have a current email address for Dave Henderson, who wrote the Wild Planet column in Sounds magazine in the mid-1980s? He took over from a similar theme from Mick Sinclair who had written the Cassette Pets column. Any info appreciated. THANKS! Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio Aural-Innovations.com From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Dec 4 00:38:45 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:38:45 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped cream among those who like the stuff, ak! Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the disc,,,,,it's HIS!!! On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: > > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks whipped > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... > oh, you want my cd..... > > > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >> >> give it to me >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob >>>> calvert too! >>>> >>> >>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his >>> pipe?? >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, >>> where >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted >>> their >>> converstation?? >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>> ** >>> >>> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 4 08:40:50 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 07:40:50 -0600 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way for you to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I thought I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped cream > among those who like the stuff, ak! > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > > > I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the > disc,,,,,it's > HIS!!! > > On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks > whipped > > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place > > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... > > oh, you want my cd..... > > > > > > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: > >> > >> give it to me > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "mike coleman" > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM > >> To: > >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > >> > >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and > bob > >>>> calvert too! > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his > >>> pipe?? > >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, > >>> where > >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted > >>> their > >>> converstation?? > >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? > >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Dec 4 09:45:46 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:45:46 -0000 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: no referee's all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get along fine. now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. their first and last gig? it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even rehearsing a collectors "must" maybe you've all got it anyway i'm 58 now trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way for > you > to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it > did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? > did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I > thought > I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet > > > On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >> >> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped cream >> among those who like the stuff, ak! >> >> Mary >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> >> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >> disc,,,,,it's >> HIS!!! >> >> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >> > >> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks >> whipped >> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >> > oh, you want my cd..... >> > >> > >> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >> >> >> >> give it to me >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> From: "mike coleman" >> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >> >> To: >> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> >> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and >> bob >> >>>> calvert too! >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his >> >>> pipe?? >> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, >> >>> where >> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >> >>> interrupted >> >>> their >> >>> converstation?? >> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >> >>> ** >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 4 10:18:20 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:18:20 -0600 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Come to the states travel to Upland Caluifornia with me do my sister shes says she's lean and trim now I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in fact is it acid anymore?? how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone is a sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream if it doesn't glob off) the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses who chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire fence, and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns of the elite On 12/4/08, trev wrote: > > no referee's > all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get along > fine. > > now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. > > their first and last gig? > > it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even > rehearsing > > a collectors "must" > > maybe you've all got it anyway > > i'm 58 now > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > > OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way for >> you >> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >> thought >> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >> >> >> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >> >>> >>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped cream >>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> >>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>> disc,,,,,it's >>> HIS!!! >>> >>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>> > >>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks >>> whipped >>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>> > >>> > >>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>> >> >>> >> give it to me >>> >> >>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>> >> To: >>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >> >>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and >>> bob >>> >>>> calvert too! >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his >>> >>> pipe?? >>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, >>> >>> where >>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>> interrupted >>> >>> their >>> >>> converstation?? >>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>> >>> ** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 4 12:02:15 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:02:15 -0600 Subject: HW for EXTREME kollectors ONLY/ my revenge Message-ID: well, a certain somebody is amused that the Israel Urban Gorilla on eBay that I need is being bid up by young upstarts, so I must now have my laugh I could not even pull this stunt off when I was the first person from space to spend more money on Hawkwind than any mortal creature had ever before me when I brought you discoveries like, say, the Irish pressing of "Church Of Hawkwind" I now have 2 differing pressings of the original USA Doremi Fasol Latido (LP)...... *HAHAHAHAHA* who says "the only ones" cannot still be "major players", even if my vision is no longer 20-10 Wilfried I expect another toss in for this, and nothing taped or VG!!! From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Dec 3 10:53:36 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:53:36 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers Message-ID: yeah, puffing away as ever on The Spirit Of The Age. And they do the Doors "People Are Strange" ! have a PondStereo CDR of the Carlisle Stars & Stripes show with liner notes too! The Dingwalls 86 thing is edited and is professionally shot from many cameras/panning etc. ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2008 16:20:14 Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob > calvert too! is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his pipe?? do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, where Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted their converstation?? well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? ** From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Dec 3 10:55:59 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:55:59 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers Message-ID: Mixed Up wuz in the band (I thin i meant ZOOMING, not so much PANNING. Mixed Up wuz in the band (I think, therefore I am) Nord ________________________________ From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2008 16:53:36 Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers yeah, puffing away as ever on The Spirit Of The Age. And they do the Doors "People Are Strange" ! have a PondStereo CDR of the Carlisle Stars & Stripes show with liner notes too! The Dingwalls 86 thing is edited and is professionally shot from many cameras/panning etc. ________________________________ From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2008 16:20:14 Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob > calvert too! is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his pipe?? do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, where Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted their converstation?? well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? ** From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Dec 4 19:24:07 2008 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Mr H) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:24:07 -0500 Subject: HW: Glasgow Message-ID: Hmm, my first posting since 2002. How time flies. Anyway, just wondering what folks thought of the Glasgow show tonight / last night. Stuart H From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Dec 5 06:03:38 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:03:38 -0000 Subject: Glasgow Message-ID: Terrific - Sound quality was awful - which was a real shame 'cos they were playing really well - very tight and solid and organised. Lots of subtlty and variation too with a couple of genuinely awesome tracks. Just off to catch a train to Newcastle so will leave the sensible comments for others to make but Kris and Dave and Richard and everyone else came to the bar afterwards for a chat which was wondeful! Didn't have a pen with me and memory of the track list got lost a haze somewhere between Edinburgh and Glasgow but includes Master of the Universe Time We Left Orgone Accumulator Lighthouse (but not necessarily in that order) Whose Gonna Win The War Angels of Death A new one <...!forgotten!....> Right to Decide Hassan I Sahba / Space is Their Palestine Utopia Damnation Alley encore: Flying Doctor Silver Machine ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr H" To: Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:24 AM Subject: HW: Glasgow Hmm, my first posting since 2002. How time flies. Anyway, just wondering what folks thought of the Glasgow show tonight / last night. Stuart H From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Dec 5 07:24:36 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:24:36 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <000b01c94fe4$08fdac30$0202a8c0@Laptop> <8CB1DFC376F43BA-984-6DD@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> <17d80c610811261015s42b49847y554a5b4b128a5ada@mail.gmail.com> <503657.65238.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <17d80c610812030720y3d790dcft756215b07262bd12@mail.gmail.com> <246415.49517.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: don't talk about pond...talk about me....ME...ME...ME Inner City Hawks...no rehearsal...yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:53 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > yeah, puffing away as ever on The Spirit Of The Age. And they do the Doors > "People Are Strange" ! have a PondStereo CDR of the Carlisle Stars & > Stripes show with liner notes too! > The Dingwalls 86 thing is edited and is professionally shot from many > cameras/panning etc. > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, 3 December, 2008 16:20:14 > Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > > On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality and bob >> calvert too! > > > is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his pipe?? > do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth show, > where > Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just interrupted > their > converstation?? > well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? > bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? > ** > > > > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Dec 5 07:42:58 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:42:58 GMT Subject: HW: Glasgow In-Reply-To: Mr H's message of Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:24:07 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Dec 5 08:10:23 2008 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Mr H) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:10:23 -0500 Subject: HW: Glasgow Message-ID: M Holmes to BOC-L Mr H writes: > Hmm, my first posting since 2002. How time flies. > > Anyway, just wondering what folks thought of the Glasgow show tonight / last > night. >WHAT????? >-- >The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >Scotland, with registration number SC005336 Well, it was just before midnight when I was sitting typing, and after midnight when I hit send, so it was last night / tonight. Stuart H From Wilfried at MUENSTER.DE Fri Dec 5 08:20:56 2008 From: Wilfried at MUENSTER.DE (Wilfried Schuesler) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:20:56 +0100 Subject: Urban Gorilla In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike, to be honest on this 7": The seller has only zero points and Alfred and Jess/Canada are fighting over it. I think it will be better to let it go (though I do know I won't be able to stop you at all if you are willing). Wilfried From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Dec 5 08:53:00 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:53:00 -0000 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040718t38db0e7at7c16e2f204beaf45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > Come to the states > travel to Upland Caluifornia with me > do my sister > shes says she's lean and trim now > I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in fact > is > it acid anymore?? > how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone is > a > sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream if it > doesn't glob off) > the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses who > chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire fence, > and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns of > the > elite > > > On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >> >> no referee's >> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get along >> fine. >> >> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. >> >> their first and last gig? >> >> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even >> rehearsing >> >> a collectors "must" >> >> maybe you've all got it anyway >> >> i'm 58 now >> >> trev >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way for >>> you >>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >>> thought >>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>> >>> >>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped cream >>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >>>> >>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>> HIS!!! >>>> >>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>> > >>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks >>>> whipped >>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> give it to me >>>> >> >>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>> >> To: >>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >> >>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality >>>> >>>> and >>>> bob >>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his >>>> >>> pipe?? >>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth >>>> >>> show, >>>> >>> where >>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>>> interrupted >>>> >>> their >>>> >>> converstation?? >>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>> >>> ** >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Fri Dec 5 09:04:50 2008 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 06:04:50 -0800 Subject: Looking for Dave Henderson who wrote for Sounds magazine In-Reply-To: <7F9CD1C81BD24D2ABF757C57EF5CD2BC@kranman> Message-ID: new.uk.music.yahoo.com/blogs/church_of_dave/ Seems to write a blog here, Jerry...Keith (See his Oct. 5 posting about cassette underground, for instance.) --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Jerry Kranitz wrote: > From: Jerry Kranitz > Subject: Looking for Dave Henderson who wrote for Sounds magazine > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 1:39 AM > Sorry folks, totally off topic, but you space rockers are > always such a > wealth of information so I hope you don't mind. > > Does anyone have a current email address for Dave > Henderson, who wrote the > Wild Planet column in Sounds magazine in the mid-1980s? He > took over from a > similar theme from Mick Sinclair who had written the > Cassette Pets column. > Any info appreciated. THANKS! > > Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) > Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio > Aural-Innovations.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Dec 5 09:10:27 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:10:27 -0000 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040718t38db0e7at7c16e2f204beaf45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The mighty guns of Judgement Division have blasted the wire asunder... ...At the sound of the Thunder Horn, the legions of the Blessed advance, their holy tridents blazing with the fire of purification. send me a pic of you seester, tex. i would like to talk weeth her...or mebee more than just talk eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? Judge Wanker -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > Come to the states > travel to Upland Caluifornia with me > do my sister > shes says she's lean and trim now > I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in fact > is > it acid anymore?? > how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone is > a > sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream if it > doesn't glob off) > the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses who > chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire fence, > and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns of > the > elite > > > On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >> >> no referee's >> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get along >> fine. >> >> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. >> >> their first and last gig? >> >> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even >> rehearsing >> >> a collectors "must" >> >> maybe you've all got it anyway >> >> i'm 58 now >> >> trev >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way for >>> you >>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >>> thought >>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>> >>> >>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped cream >>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >>>> >>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>> HIS!!! >>>> >>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>> > >>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks >>>> whipped >>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> give it to me >>>> >> >>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>> >> To: >>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >> >>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality >>>> >>>> and >>>> bob >>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his >>>> >>> pipe?? >>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth >>>> >>> show, >>>> >>> where >>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>>> interrupted >>>> >>> their >>>> >>> converstation?? >>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>> >>> ** >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 5 11:20:57 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:20:57 -0600 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: she'll be 62 on the day your killing me, do you think you can act mature??? and you don't fear my silly curse do you?? I mean it SHOULD be called off by now On 12/5/08, trev wrote: > > The mighty guns of Judgement Division have blasted the wire asunder... > ...At the sound of the Thunder Horn, the legions of the Blessed advance, > their holy tridents blazing with the fire of purification. > > send me a pic of you seester, tex. i would like to talk weeth her...or > mebee more than just talk eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? eh? > > Judge Wanker > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > > Come to the states >> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me >> do my sister >> shes says she's lean and trim now >> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in fact >> is >> it acid anymore?? >> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone is >> a >> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream if it >> doesn't glob off) >> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses who >> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire fence, >> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns of >> the >> elite >> >> >> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >> >>> >>> no referee's >>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get along >>> fine. >>> >>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. >>> >>> their first and last gig? >>> >>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even >>> rehearsing >>> >>> a collectors "must" >>> >>> maybe you've all got it anyway >>> >>> i'm 58 now >>> >>> trev >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way for >>> >>>> you >>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >>>> thought >>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped cream >>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>>> >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>>> HIS!!! >>>>> >>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks >>>>> whipped >>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> give it to me >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>>> >> To: >>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality >>>>> >>>> and >>>>> bob >>>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on his >>>>> >>> pipe?? >>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth >>> >>>>> show, >>>>> >>> where >>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>>>> interrupted >>>>> >>> their >>>>> >>> converstation?? >>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>>> >>> ** >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 5 11:47:27 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:47:27 -0600 Subject: Urban Gorilla In-Reply-To: <60DE44F9E4C249438090DCEE296F1056@ads.stadtmuenster.de> Message-ID: there is no way anybody can beat my high bid not worried at all!!!! besides, jess is only a tape collector no worries mate, I will easily DESTROY THEM!!!! On 12/5/08, Wilfried Schuesler wrote: > > Mike, > > to be honest on this 7": > > The seller has only zero points and Alfred and Jess/Canada are fighting > over > it. I think it will be better to let it go (though I do know I won't be > able > to stop you at all if you are willing). > > Wilfried > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 5 11:51:18 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:51:18 -0600 Subject: Urban Gorilla In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812050847t552f134aq8f9c6fab8ac605e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: uhhh Wilfried, did you realise this is on forum??? I naturally didn't, and it was "psych", however I am pissed off as I need that doremi that I showed you damn (sorry folks) Hey CDS is offering Hawkwind cover 45 singles and 3 new t-shirts but I've no idea what they are yet duohhh On 12/5/08, mike coleman wrote: > > there is no way anybody can beat my high bid > not worried at all!!!! > besides, jess is only a tape collector > no worries mate, I will easily DESTROY THEM!!!! > > > On 12/5/08, Wilfried Schuesler wrote: >> >> Mike, >> >> to be honest on this 7": >> >> The seller has only zero points and Alfred and Jess/Canada are fighting >> over >> it. I think it will be better to let it go (though I do know I won't be >> able >> to stop you at all if you are willing). >> >> Wilfried >> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 5 12:21:16 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:21:16 -0600 Subject: Urban Gorilla In-Reply-To: <60DE44F9E4C249438090DCEE296F1056@ads.stadtmuenster.de> Message-ID: Now let's get real here....... that 45 is in black and white and has the WRONG crew pictured for Urban Guerilla not to mention the label mispelled, and they are FIGHTING over it???? the starting bid of $24.99 shuld have sent them running since they will all be out of work come the new year..... all part of my new unblown masterplan.... On 12/5/08, Wilfried Schuesler wrote: > > Mike, > > to be honest on this 7": > > The seller has only zero points and Alfred and Jess/Canada are fighting > over > it. I think it will be better to let it go (though I do know I won't be > able > to stop you at all if you are willing). > > Wilfried > From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Dec 5 14:40:16 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:40:16 EST Subject: Glasgow Message-ID: In a message dated 05/12/2008 11:04:43 GMT Standard Time, jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: Terrific - Sound quality was awful - which was a real shame 'cos they were playing really well - very tight and solid and organised. Lots of subtlty and variation too with a couple of genuinely awesome tracks. Did they play as a 5 piece? What part did Niall Hone play in it? And Dave. Was he up there with the guitar? Steve. From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Dec 6 06:59:17 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:59:17 +0100 Subject: Hawk Tour 12/2008 Message-ID: Hi Folks I really wonder if there is a new guitarrist on stage ? Noone mentioned him on the reviews !!! If he really was on stage, well, what can you tell us about him ???????????????? Bernhard From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Dec 6 07:05:02 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:05:02 EST Subject: Hawk Tour 12/2008 Message-ID: In a message dated 06/12/2008 11:59:52 GMT Standard Time, bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE writes: Hi Folks I really wonder if there is a new guitarrist on stage ? Noone mentioned him on the reviews !!! If he really was on stage, well, what can you tell us about him That's what I want to know too. Not one mention. I emailed AllGigs.co.uk to get them to update the line up, which they have now done. Maybe it needs amending again? Steve From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Dec 6 08:02:37 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:02:37 -0000 Subject: Hawk Tour 12/2008 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think it's Niall from Tribe of Crow, at least there was talk of him joining a few months ago. He's a great guitar player but an even better bass player - one of the best around at the moment. His last "gig" was with me which consisted of two rehearsals with Atomgods earlier this year, a project which was abandoned after I found that there was zero interest in us from the promoters I contacted. The drummer was Nimbus, a very powerful and simple drummer (the best kind for rock imo). We had phenomenal power and x factor but promoters are understandably more interested in the pull of a name than the quality of music. Never mind, if it is Niall he certainly deserves his new gig. He's the type of musican who doesn't need to rehearse - he doesn't know how to play badly lol. I could be wrong about this...I mean how do I know...no one tells me anything, sob! Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 12:05 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawk Tour 12/2008 > > In a message dated 06/12/2008 11:59:52 GMT Standard Time, > bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE writes: > > Hi Folks > > I really wonder if there is a new guitarrist on stage ? > Noone mentioned him on the reviews !!! > > If he really was on stage, well, what can you tell us about him > > > > > That's what I want to know too. > Not one mention. I emailed AllGigs.co.uk to get them to update the line > up, > which they have now done. Maybe it needs amending again? > > Steve > From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Dec 6 11:15:40 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:15:40 EST Subject: Wolverhampton on Wednesday... Message-ID: It has transpired that I will not now be able to get a lift back from Wolverhampton to Alsager on Wednesday night. I have checked taxi prices and the minimum I was quoted was ?50. So unless there is anyone here who is: a) in my area, b) going to the Wolves gig, and c) willing to give a poor Hawklord a lift back, I will have a spare ticket going for the cost price of ?19.00 Cheers, Steve. From tim at KALYR.COM Sat Dec 6 11:24:12 2008 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:24:12 +0000 Subject: Wolverhampton on Wednesday... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM wrote: > > It has transpired that I will not now be able to get a lift back from > Wolverhampton to Alsager on Wednesday night. > I have checked taxi prices and the minimum I was quoted was ?50 > Hi, Have you checked laterooms.com for accomodation? When I went see to Panic Room at the Little Civic back in October, I managed to get a hotel room (we're talking proper hotel, not roach motel) room for ?35, which is, well, 15 less than 50 squid. -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Dec 6 12:11:14 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:11:14 EST Subject: Wolverhampton on Wednesday... Message-ID: Tim, yer a star! I'm booked in at the Brittania for ?27.00. That's saved me exactly 20 quid in total on what I would have paid on trains and taxis. Not to mention the gloom and misery of not being at a Hawkwind concert. Cheers, Steve. In a message dated 06/12/2008 16:26:21 GMT Standard Time, tim at KALYR.COM writes: Hi, Have you checked laterooms.com for accomodation? When I went see to Panic Room at the Little Civic back in October, I managed to get a hotel room (we're talking proper hotel, not roach motel) room for ?35, which is, well, 15 less than 50 squid. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Dec 6 14:37:39 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 14:37:39 EST Subject: Wolverhampton Pubs... Message-ID: Anyone fancy a pint before the gig in Wolves? I don't know the area, but I'm sure it won't take too long to get acquainted. The postcode for the Wulfrun is WV1 1RQ. There are five pubs in the Good Beer Guide with a WV1 postcode: Hogshead (listed building, food 'til 9pm) Moon Under The Water (Wetherspoons - say no more!) Posada (This looks a good one and was visited by Lawrence of Arabia in 1934) Stile and the Tap & Spile (might nbe my first stop as it states "handy for bus and railway") Steve. From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Dec 6 18:40:04 2008 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:40:04 +0000 Subject: HW : 70 new photos added Message-ID: Hi folks I've put a whole bunch of photos on www.tangledwoof.com, from the gig on Thursday night in Glasgow. I sent another bunch to Steve at starfarer.net so he will no doubt put these on his site sometime in the next few days. Cheers Alan From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Dec 7 06:49:41 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:49:41 +0000 Subject: Astoria Message-ID: Does anyone know what the Astoria's attitude to taking photo's is? also recording? Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From tim at KALYR.COM Sun Dec 7 06:54:31 2008 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:54:31 +0000 Subject: Astoria In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve Freight wrote: > Does anyone know what the Astoria's attitude to taking photo's is? also > recording? > > I think they allow compact cameras, but not SLRs. Anything in between you might have to try and persuade security that it's not a 'professional camera'. Either that or try and get the band to give you a photo pass. -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Dec 7 09:25:02 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:25:02 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind: Official live releases (1971-2007) Message-ID: Hi Folks Here is a list of ALL official Hawkwind live releases. Most of them are on CD and/or LP. (If on another source then it is mentioned) Only dates are listed which contain at least 3 tracks I am sure that I have forgotten some dates. Please feel free to fill up the gaps. For most of us it is a usefull list to see what we have and what we need and what MUST be released Indeed almost every year has an official live release. The years without an official release are: 1975 / 1987 / 1991 / 1994 / 1998 / 1999 / 2003 / 2004 Here we go: ??.??.1971 (Text Of Festival) 13.02.1972 (Greasy Truckers) 28.09.1972 (SpaceRock From London) 22.12.1972 (Space Ritual) 30.12.1972 (Space Ritual) 27.05.1973 (Yuri Gagarin) 21.03.1974 (Live In Chicago) 27.09.1976 (Atomhenge 76) 23.06.1977 (Hawkwind 76-77 WEIRD CD) 23.12.1977 (Sonic Assassins) 23.11.1978 (Hawklords Live) 24.11.1978 (WEIRD CD Plymouth) 01.12.1979 (Complete 79) 08.12.1979 (Live 79) 18.12.1980 (Zones / Do Not Panic) 20.06.1981 (Glstonbury 81 Tape) 25.10.1981 (Live 81 VHS) 21.10.1982 (Live 82 VHS) 31.10.1982 (Zones / Do Not Panic) 13.11.1982 (Live 82) 04.06.1983 (Cricket St. Thomas VHS) 09.03.1984 (Ipswich 84) 20.06.1984 (Stonehenge DVD) 27.11.1984 (Undisclosed Files) 04.12.1985 (Live Chronicles) 24.08.1986 (Live At Reading) 22.04.1988 (Hammersmith 88 Tape BBC Broadcast) 07.12.1988 (Undisclosed Files) 10.03.1989 (Live 79-89 VHS) 29.07.1989 (Treworgey DVD) 04.10.1989 (Minneapolis 89) 10.10.1989 (Palace Springs) 25.01.1990 (Live in Nottingham) 02.07.1990 (Bournemouth 90 VHS) 23.06.1990 (Glastonbury 90) 22.10.1990 (Live In Nottingham) ---> Is indeed Manchester 05.11.1990 (Live In Space 90) 16.12.1990 (California Brainstorm) 17.12.1990 (USA 90 DVD) 19.05.1992 (Reading 92) 15.08.1992 (Brixton 92 VHS) 27.11.1993 (Business Trip) 27.07.1995 (BBC TV Studio TV appereance) 19.10.1995 (Love In Space) 21.07.1996 (Burg Herzberg Festival GERMAN TV Broadcast) 31.08.1997 (Strange Daze) ??.10.1997 (Hawkwind 97) 20.11.1997 (In Your Area) 29.12.2000 (Yule Ritual) 18.08.2001 (Canterbury Festival) 04.12.2002 (Out Of The Shadows) 13.12.2002 (Spaced Out In London) 21.12.2005 (Astoria 2005 DVD) 22.04.2006 (Tilburg Fesitival OFFICIAL DOWNLOAD) 18.12.2006 (Space Melt DVD) 19.12.2007 (Knights Of Space) From youless at COX.NET Sun Dec 7 11:45:27 2008 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:45:27 -0500 Subject: HW : 70 new photos added Message-ID: I'm playing catch up here...just added Alan's wonderful photos on these pages: http://www.starfarer.net/tourvw11.html http://www.starfarer.net/photos425.html http://www.starfarer.net/photos426.html Thanks Alan! My site wouldn't be up to much without the talents and generosity of great people like him... Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:40:04 +0000, Alan Taylor wrote: >Hi folks > >I've put a whole bunch of photos on www.tangledwoof.com, from the gig on >Thursday night in Glasgow. I sent another bunch to Steve at >starfarer.net so he will no doubt put these on his site sometime in the >next few days. > >Cheers >Alan From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Dec 7 12:12:54 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:12:54 -0000 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040718t38db0e7at7c16e2f204beaf45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: to tex coleman so i offer you all the magnificent inner city hawks collectors video you offer me your sister and i hear nothing...nothing no one likes me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:53 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > >> Come to the states >> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me >> do my sister >> shes says she's lean and trim now >> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in fact >> is >> it acid anymore?? >> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone is >> a >> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream if >> it >> doesn't glob off) >> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses who >> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire >> fence, >> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns of >> the >> elite >> >> >> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >>> >>> no referee's >>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get along >>> fine. >>> >>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. >>> >>> their first and last gig? >>> >>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even >>> rehearsing >>> >>> a collectors "must" >>> >>> maybe you've all got it anyway >>> >>> i'm 58 now >>> >>> trev >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way for >>>> you >>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >>>> thought >>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped >>>>> cream >>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>>> >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>>> HIS!!! >>>>> >>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks >>>>> whipped >>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> give it to me >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>>> >> To: >>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality >>>>> >>>> and >>>>> bob >>>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on >>>>> >>> his >>>>> >>> pipe?? >>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth >>>>> >>> show, >>>>> >>> where >>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>>>> interrupted >>>>> >>> their >>>>> >>> converstation?? >>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>>> >>> ** >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Dec 7 12:49:59 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:49:59 -0600 Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Trev my endeavors transforming a common high-school dropout into mangod allow me little time to afford any attention on how to play PAL DVDS..... and you know how I hate computers making any noise...... On 12/7/08, trev wrote: > > to tex coleman > > so i offer you all the magnificent inner city hawks collectors video > you offer me your sister > and i hear nothing...nothing > no one likes me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "trev" > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:53 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > > -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> Come to the states >>> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me >>> do my sister >>> shes says she's lean and trim now >>> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in fact >>> is >>> it acid anymore?? >>> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone is >>> a >>> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream if >>> it >>> doesn't glob off) >>> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses who >>> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire >>> fence, >>> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns of >>> the >>> elite >>> >>> >>> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> no referee's >>>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get along >>>> fine. >>>> >>>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. >>>> >>>> their first and last gig? >>>> >>>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even >>>> rehearsing >>>> >>>> a collectors "must" >>>> >>>> maybe you've all got it anyway >>>> >>>> i'm 58 now >>>> >>>> trev >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >>>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way for >>>> >>>>> you >>>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >>>>> thought >>>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped >>>>>> cream >>>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>>>> HIS!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks >>>>>> whipped >>>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> give it to me >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>>>> >> To: >>>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality >>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>> bob >>>>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on >>>>>> >>> his >>>>>> >>> pipe?? >>>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth >>>>>> >>> show, >>>>>> >>> where >>>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>>>>> interrupted >>>>>> >>> their >>>>>> >>> converstation?? >>>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>>>> >>> ** >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Dec 7 18:04:11 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 23:04:11 -0000 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040718t38db0e7at7c16e2f204beaf45@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812070949u4f2afe09xab679f66f11ff235@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: well you seem to have had the time to learn the english language...sort of anyway for folks who can play PAL dvd's (will make efforts to get some in nstc or whatever it is if i see any interest) Inner City Hawks live at the Standard, London (a few years ago) This was their one and only gig (no rehearsal of course) It is a collectors "Must Buy" The promoter of the Standard rang me up and said "Hallo Trev, I've got a spot for next Thursday can you do it?" I said, "Sure" (thinking hard) "I've got this band with Ron Tree from Hawkwind" (remembering that we had played at the Hamburg Hawkfest a year or so previously) "What's the name of the band" I never expected this "Erm, well, haha, blub blub ooh" (pregnant pause) "INNER CITY HAWKS," I blurted out Commander Jim Hawkman, and Angelflame turned up on the night too. I've forgotten the drummers name. The gig was very good It's got Blanga It was video'd by someone. It will be ready in a couple of days. It will be ?10 free postage. I'm trying to get it out in time for Xmas Stop talking about other people and start talking about me...ME ME ME d'ya hear! Judge Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:49 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > Trev my endeavors transforming a common high-school dropout into mangod > allow me little time to afford any attention on how to play PAL DVDS..... > and you know how I hate computers making any noise...... > > > On 12/7/08, trev wrote: >> >> to tex coleman >> >> so i offer you all the magnificent inner city hawks collectors video >> you offer me your sister >> and i hear nothing...nothing >> no one likes me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >> >> trev >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "trev" >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:53 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> Come to the states >>>> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me >>>> do my sister >>>> shes says she's lean and trim now >>>> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in >>>> fact >>>> is >>>> it acid anymore?? >>>> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone >>>> is >>>> a >>>> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream if >>>> it >>>> doesn't glob off) >>>> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses >>>> who >>>> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire >>>> fence, >>>> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns of >>>> the >>>> elite >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> no referee's >>>>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get >>>>> along >>>>> fine. >>>>> >>>>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. >>>>> >>>>> their first and last gig? >>>>> >>>>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even >>>>> rehearsing >>>>> >>>>> a collectors "must" >>>>> >>>>> maybe you've all got it anyway >>>>> >>>>> i'm 58 now >>>>> >>>>> trev >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>> >>>>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way >>>>> for >>>>> >>>>>> you >>>>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>>>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>>>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >>>>>> thought >>>>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped >>>>>>> cream >>>>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>>>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>>>>> HIS!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk chicks >>>>>>> whipped >>>>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> give it to me >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>>>>> >> To: >>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome quality >>>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>> bob >>>>>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on >>>>>>> >>> his >>>>>>> >>> pipe?? >>>>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth >>>>>>> >>> show, >>>>>>> >>> where >>>>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>>>>>> interrupted >>>>>>> >>> their >>>>>>> >>> converstation?? >>>>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>>>>> >>> ** >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 8 10:13:25 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:13:25 GMT Subject: HW: Glasgow In-Reply-To: Mr H's message of Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:10:23 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 8 10:14:41 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:14:41 GMT Subject: HW: Glasgow In-Reply-To: Mr H's message of Fri, 5 Dec 2008 08:10:23 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 8 10:17:17 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:17:17 GMT Subject: Glasgow In-Reply-To: StevePXR5@AOL.COM's message of Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:40:16 EST Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 8 10:36:13 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:36:13 -0000 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040718t38db0e7at7c16e2f204beaf45@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812070949u4f2afe09xab679f66f11ff235@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's doesn't it? you're trying to mislead me so i enter the gates of hell t -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:04 PM To: Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks > well you seem to have had the time to learn the english language...sort of > > anyway for folks who can play PAL dvd's (will make efforts to get some in > nstc or whatever it is if i see any interest) > > Inner City Hawks live at the Standard, London (a few years ago) > > This was their one and only gig (no rehearsal of course) > > It is a collectors "Must Buy" > > The promoter of the Standard rang me up and said "Hallo Trev, I've got a > spot for next Thursday can you do it?" > I said, "Sure" (thinking hard) > "I've got this band with Ron Tree from Hawkwind" (remembering that we had > played at the Hamburg Hawkfest a year or so previously) > "What's the name of the band" > I never expected this > "Erm, well, haha, blub blub ooh" (pregnant pause) > "INNER CITY HAWKS," I blurted out > > Commander Jim Hawkman, and Angelflame turned up on the night too. I've > forgotten the drummers name. > > The gig was very good > > It's got Blanga > > It was video'd by someone. > > It will be ready in a couple of days. > > It will be ?10 free postage. > > I'm trying to get it out in time for Xmas > > Stop talking about other people and start talking about me...ME ME ME d'ya > hear! > > > Judge Trev > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:49 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > >> Trev my endeavors transforming a common high-school dropout into mangod >> allow me little time to afford any attention on how to play PAL DVDS..... >> and you know how I hate computers making any noise...... >> >> >> On 12/7/08, trev wrote: >>> >>> to tex coleman >>> >>> so i offer you all the magnificent inner city hawks collectors video >>> you offer me your sister >>> and i hear nothing...nothing >>> no one likes me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >>> >>> trev >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "trev" >>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:53 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >>>> Come to the states >>>>> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me >>>>> do my sister >>>>> shes says she's lean and trim now >>>>> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in >>>>> fact >>>>> is >>>>> it acid anymore?? >>>>> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone >>>>> is >>>>> a >>>>> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream >>>>> if >>>>> it >>>>> doesn't glob off) >>>>> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses >>>>> who >>>>> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire >>>>> fence, >>>>> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns >>>>> of >>>>> the >>>>> elite >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> no referee's >>>>>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get >>>>>> along >>>>>> fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. >>>>>> >>>>>> their first and last gig? >>>>>> >>>>>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even >>>>>> rehearsing >>>>>> >>>>>> a collectors "must" >>>>>> >>>>>> maybe you've all got it anyway >>>>>> >>>>>> i'm 58 now >>>>>> >>>>>> trev >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space >>>>>> Rangers >>>>>> >>>>>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way >>>>>> for >>>>>> >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>>>>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>>>>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >>>>>>> thought >>>>>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped >>>>>>>> cream >>>>>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>>>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>>>>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>>>>>> HIS!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk >>>>>>>> > chicks >>>>>>>> whipped >>>>>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>>>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>>>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> give it to me >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>>>>>> >> To: >>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome >>>>>>>> >>>> quality >>>>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>>> bob >>>>>>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on >>>>>>>> >>> his >>>>>>>> >>> pipe?? >>>>>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth >>>>>>>> >>> show, >>>>>>>> >>> where >>>>>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>>>>>>> interrupted >>>>>>>> >>> their >>>>>>>> >>> converstation?? >>>>>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>>>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>>>>>> >>> ** >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 8 10:37:24 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:37:24 -0600 Subject: HW- for John Majka?? Message-ID: the "major players" as hermann-ze-germann calls them, should all be out of the way, you should be able to nail it if you wish: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220325940258&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:GB:1123 From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 8 10:38:29 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:38:29 -0000 Subject: Glasgow In-Reply-To: <200812081517.mB8FHHlH013039@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: so it is niall then...he looks like robin hood t -------------------------------------------------- From: "M Holmes" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:17 PM To: Subject: Re: Glasgow > StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > >> Did they play as a 5 piece? What part did Niall Hone play in it? And >> Dave. >> Was he up there with the guitar? > > Yep, Niall was there in Glasgow. The whole band came up to the bar > afterwards and chatted with the fans. A very good night apart from > whatever had gone wrong with the sound. > > FoFP > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 8 10:47:11 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:47:11 -0600 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: last time I checked DVD's were videos unless you're compressing MP3's on them or something, of course I have NO clue what i just said but it feels right, and god Lemmy singing "Liar" in the morning sure is sweet and by the way Ron says you have to give me a free copy or he's going to take up issue with you over the name ha!! On 12/8/08, trev wrote: > > anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's > doesn't it? > > you're trying to mislead me so i enter the gates of hell > > t > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "trev" > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:04 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks > > well you seem to have had the time to learn the english language...sort of >> >> anyway for folks who can play PAL dvd's (will make efforts to get some in >> nstc or whatever it is if i see any interest) >> >> Inner City Hawks live at the Standard, London (a few years ago) >> >> This was their one and only gig (no rehearsal of course) >> >> It is a collectors "Must Buy" >> >> The promoter of the Standard rang me up and said "Hallo Trev, I've got a >> spot for next Thursday can you do it?" >> I said, "Sure" (thinking hard) >> "I've got this band with Ron Tree from Hawkwind" (remembering that we had >> played at the Hamburg Hawkfest a year or so previously) >> "What's the name of the band" >> I never expected this >> "Erm, well, haha, blub blub ooh" (pregnant pause) >> "INNER CITY HAWKS," I blurted out >> >> Commander Jim Hawkman, and Angelflame turned up on the night too. I've >> forgotten the drummers name. >> >> The gig was very good >> >> It's got Blanga >> >> It was video'd by someone. >> >> It will be ready in a couple of days. >> >> It will be ?10 free postage. >> >> I'm trying to get it out in time for Xmas >> >> Stop talking about other people and start talking about me...ME ME ME d'ya >> hear! >> >> >> Judge Trev >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:49 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >> >> Trev my endeavors transforming a common high-school dropout into mangod >>> allow me little time to afford any attention on how to play PAL DVDS..... >>> and you know how I hate computers making any noise...... >>> >>> >>> On 12/7/08, trev wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> to tex coleman >>>> >>>> so i offer you all the magnificent inner city hawks collectors video >>>> you offer me your sister >>>> and i hear nothing...nothing >>>> no one likes me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >>>> >>>> trev >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "trev" >>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:53 PM >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>> >>>>> Come to the states >>>>> >>>>>> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me >>>>>> do my sister >>>>>> shes says she's lean and trim now >>>>>> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in >>>>>> fact >>>>>> is >>>>>> it acid anymore?? >>>>>> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when everyone >>>>>> is >>>>>> a >>>>>> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream >>>>>> if >>>>>> it >>>>>> doesn't glob off) >>>>>> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses >>>>>> who >>>>>> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire >>>>>> fence, >>>>>> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns >>>>>> of >>>>>> the >>>>>> elite >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> no referee's >>>>>>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get >>>>>>> along >>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has commented. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> their first and last gig? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without even >>>>>>> rehearsing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a collectors "must" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> maybe you've all got it anyway >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i'm 58 now >>>>>>> >>>>>>> trev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space >>>>>>> Rangers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a way >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>>>>>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>>>>>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, I >>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped >>>>>>>>> cream >>>>>>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>>>>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>>>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>>>>>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>>>>>>> HIS!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk > >>>>>>>>> chicks >>>>>>>>> whipped >>>>>>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>>>>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>>>>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> give it to me >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>>>>>>> >> To: >>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome >>>> >>>>>>>>> quality >>>>>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>>>> bob >>>>>>>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away on >>>>>>>>> >>> his >>>>>>>>> >>> pipe?? >>>>>>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen Elizabeth >>>>>>>>> >>> show, >>>>>>>>> >>> where >>>>>>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>> >>>>>>>>> interrupted >>>>>>>>> >>> their >>>>>>>>> >>> converstation?? >>>>>>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>>>>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>>>>>>> >>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Mon Dec 8 11:41:56 2008 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:41:56 -0500 Subject: HW- for John Majka?? Message-ID: well you're right, Mike... it's one of the few pieces I don't have in my collection as of yet. John Majka > the "major players" as hermann-ze-germann calls them, should all be out of > the way, you should be able to nail it if you wish: > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220325940258&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:GB:1123 From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 8 13:16:17 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:16:17 -0000 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040718t38db0e7at7c16e2f204beaf45@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812070949u4f2afe09xab679f66f11ff235@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812080747r657e6ac5k7ba81919710a6e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:47 PM To: Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks > last time I checked DVD's were videos unless you're compressing MP3's on > them or something, of course I have NO clue what i just said but it feels > right, and god Lemmy singing "Liar" in the morning sure is sweet and by > the > way Ron says you have to give me a free copy or he's going to take up > issue > with you over the name > ha!! > > > On 12/8/08, trev wrote: >> >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's >> doesn't it? >> >> you're trying to mislead me so i enter the gates of hell >> >> t >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "trev" >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:04 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks >> >> well you seem to have had the time to learn the english language...sort >> of >>> >>> anyway for folks who can play PAL dvd's (will make efforts to get some >>> in >>> nstc or whatever it is if i see any interest) >>> >>> Inner City Hawks live at the Standard, London (a few years ago) >>> >>> This was their one and only gig (no rehearsal of course) >>> >>> It is a collectors "Must Buy" >>> >>> The promoter of the Standard rang me up and said "Hallo Trev, I've got a >>> spot for next Thursday can you do it?" >>> I said, "Sure" (thinking hard) >>> "I've got this band with Ron Tree from Hawkwind" (remembering that we >>> had >>> played at the Hamburg Hawkfest a year or so previously) >>> "What's the name of the band" >>> I never expected this >>> "Erm, well, haha, blub blub ooh" (pregnant pause) >>> "INNER CITY HAWKS," I blurted out >>> >>> Commander Jim Hawkman, and Angelflame turned up on the night too. I've >>> forgotten the drummers name. >>> >>> The gig was very good >>> >>> It's got Blanga >>> >>> It was video'd by someone. >>> >>> It will be ready in a couple of days. >>> >>> It will be ?10 free postage. >>> >>> I'm trying to get it out in time for Xmas >>> >>> Stop talking about other people and start talking about me...ME ME ME >>> d'ya >>> hear! >>> >>> >>> Judge Trev >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:49 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> Trev my endeavors transforming a common high-school dropout into mangod >>>> allow me little time to afford any attention on how to play PAL >>>> DVDS..... >>>> and you know how I hate computers making any noise...... >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/7/08, trev wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> to tex coleman >>>>> >>>>> so i offer you all the magnificent inner city hawks collectors video >>>>> you offer me your sister >>>>> and i hear nothing...nothing >>>>> no one likes me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >>>>> >>>>> trev >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "trev" >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:53 PM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space >>>>>> Rangers >>>>>> >>>>>> Come to the states >>>>>> >>>>>>> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me >>>>>>> do my sister >>>>>>> shes says she's lean and trim now >>>>>>> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in >>>>>>> fact >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> it acid anymore?? >>>>>>> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when >>>>>>> everyone >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> doesn't glob off) >>>>>>> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses >>>>>>> who >>>>>>> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire >>>>>>> fence, >>>>>>> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> elite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> no referee's >>>>>>>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get >>>>>>>> along >>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has >>>>>>>> commented. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> their first and last gig? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without >>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>> rehearsing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a collectors "must" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maybe you've all got it anyway >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i'm 58 now >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> trev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space >>>>>>>> Rangers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a >>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>>>>>>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>>>>>>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped >>>>>>>>>> cream >>>>>>>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>>>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space >>>>>>>>>> Rangers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>>>>>>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>>>>>>>> HIS!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk > >>>>>>>>>> chicks >>>>>>>>>> whipped >>>>>>>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>>>>>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>>>>>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> give it to me >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>>>>>>>> >> To: >>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome >>>> >>>>>>>>>> quality >>>>>>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>>>>> bob >>>>>>>>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away >>>>>>>>>> >>> on >>>>>>>>>> >>> his >>>>>>>>>> >>> pipe?? >>>>>>>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen >>>>>>>>>> >>> Elizabeth >>>>>>>>>> >>> show, >>>>>>>>>> >>> where >>>>>>>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> interrupted >>>>>>>>>> >>> their >>>>>>>>>> >>> converstation?? >>>>>>>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>>>>>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>>>>>>>> >>> ** >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 8 13:38:06 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:38:06 -0000 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040718t38db0e7at7c16e2f204beaf45@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812070949u4f2afe09xab679f66f11ff235@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812080747r657e6ac5k7ba81919710a6e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ok, video tapes ...video tapes! ron doesn't like the name...he likes moab...i don't like moab...i like ich...it's german for "I" or "me"...good name for a big-head...but it won't be used again...it's only a "collectors" thing now...he likes modest names like the mother of all bands. it's good to see m holmes posting again for he is a Blessed One who's name is written in the sacred book of "the names and the names and the sacred names"...unlike you, who's name was ritually expunged from the ranks of the holy when you started getting too lippy. judge modest -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:47 PM To: Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks > last time I checked DVD's were videos unless you're compressing MP3's on > them or something, of course I have NO clue what i just said but it feels > right, and god Lemmy singing "Liar" in the morning sure is sweet and by > the > way Ron says you have to give me a free copy or he's going to take up > issue > with you over the name > ha!! > > > On 12/8/08, trev wrote: >> >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's >> doesn't it? >> >> you're trying to mislead me so i enter the gates of hell >> >> t >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "trev" >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:04 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks >> >> well you seem to have had the time to learn the english language...sort >> of >>> >>> anyway for folks who can play PAL dvd's (will make efforts to get some >>> in >>> nstc or whatever it is if i see any interest) >>> >>> Inner City Hawks live at the Standard, London (a few years ago) >>> >>> This was their one and only gig (no rehearsal of course) >>> >>> It is a collectors "Must Buy" >>> >>> The promoter of the Standard rang me up and said "Hallo Trev, I've got a >>> spot for next Thursday can you do it?" >>> I said, "Sure" (thinking hard) >>> "I've got this band with Ron Tree from Hawkwind" (remembering that we >>> had >>> played at the Hamburg Hawkfest a year or so previously) >>> "What's the name of the band" >>> I never expected this >>> "Erm, well, haha, blub blub ooh" (pregnant pause) >>> "INNER CITY HAWKS," I blurted out >>> >>> Commander Jim Hawkman, and Angelflame turned up on the night too. I've >>> forgotten the drummers name. >>> >>> The gig was very good >>> >>> It's got Blanga >>> >>> It was video'd by someone. >>> >>> It will be ready in a couple of days. >>> >>> It will be ?10 free postage. >>> >>> I'm trying to get it out in time for Xmas >>> >>> Stop talking about other people and start talking about me...ME ME ME >>> d'ya >>> hear! >>> >>> >>> Judge Trev >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:49 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>> >>> Trev my endeavors transforming a common high-school dropout into mangod >>>> allow me little time to afford any attention on how to play PAL >>>> DVDS..... >>>> and you know how I hate computers making any noise...... >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/7/08, trev wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> to tex coleman >>>>> >>>>> so i offer you all the magnificent inner city hawks collectors video >>>>> you offer me your sister >>>>> and i hear nothing...nothing >>>>> no one likes me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >>>>> >>>>> trev >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "trev" >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:53 PM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM >>>>>> To: >>>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space >>>>>> Rangers >>>>>> >>>>>> Come to the states >>>>>> >>>>>>> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me >>>>>>> do my sister >>>>>>> shes says she's lean and trim now >>>>>>> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in >>>>>>> fact >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> it acid anymore?? >>>>>>> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when >>>>>>> everyone >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> doesn't glob off) >>>>>>> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses >>>>>>> who >>>>>>> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire >>>>>>> fence, >>>>>>> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> elite >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> no referee's >>>>>>>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get >>>>>>>> along >>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has >>>>>>>> commented. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> their first and last gig? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without >>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>> rehearsing >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a collectors "must" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> maybe you've all got it anyway >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i'm 58 now >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> trev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM >>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space >>>>>>>> Rangers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a >>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it >>>>>>>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? >>>>>>>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped >>>>>>>>>> cream >>>>>>>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM >>>>>>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>>>>>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space >>>>>>>>>> Rangers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the >>>>>>>>>> disc,,,,,it's >>>>>>>>>> HIS!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk > >>>>>>>>>> chicks >>>>>>>>>> whipped >>>>>>>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place >>>>>>>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... >>>>>>>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> give it to me >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" >>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM >>>>>>>>>> >> To: >>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer >>>>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome >>>> >>>>>>>>>> quality >>>>>>>>>> >>>> and >>>>>>>>>> bob >>>>>>>>>> >>>> calvert too! >>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away >>>>>>>>>> >>> on >>>>>>>>>> >>> his >>>>>>>>>> >>> pipe?? >>>>>>>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen >>>>>>>>>> >>> Elizabeth >>>>>>>>>> >>> show, >>>>>>>>>> >>> where >>>>>>>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> interrupted >>>>>>>>>> >>> their >>>>>>>>>> >>> converstation?? >>>>>>>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? >>>>>>>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? >>>>>>>>>> >>> ** >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> > From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Mon Dec 8 14:21:46 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 20:21:46 +0100 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, if you got nothing to say...... In the mean time, please check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style 2nd example. Gr, Arjan H On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:16:17 -0000, trev wrote > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:47 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks > > > last time I checked DVD's were videos unless you're compressing MP3's on > > them or something, of course I have NO clue what i just said but it feels > > right, and god Lemmy singing "Liar" in the morning sure is sweet and by > > the > > way Ron says you have to give me a free copy or he's going to take up > > issue > > with you over the name > > ha!! > > > > > > On 12/8/08, trev wrote: > >> > >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's > >> doesn't it? > >> > >> you're trying to mislead me so i enter the gates of hell > >> > >> t > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "trev" > >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 11:04 PM > >> To: > >> Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks > >> > >> well you seem to have had the time to learn the english language...sort > >> of > >>> > >>> anyway for folks who can play PAL dvd's (will make efforts to get some > >>> in > >>> nstc or whatever it is if i see any interest) > >>> > >>> Inner City Hawks live at the Standard, London (a few years ago) > >>> > >>> This was their one and only gig (no rehearsal of course) > >>> > >>> It is a collectors "Must Buy" > >>> > >>> The promoter of the Standard rang me up and said "Hallo Trev, I've got a > >>> spot for next Thursday can you do it?" > >>> I said, "Sure" (thinking hard) > >>> "I've got this band with Ron Tree from Hawkwind" (remembering that we > >>> had > >>> played at the Hamburg Hawkfest a year or so previously) > >>> "What's the name of the band" > >>> I never expected this > >>> "Erm, well, haha, blub blub ooh" (pregnant pause) > >>> "INNER CITY HAWKS," I blurted out > >>> > >>> Commander Jim Hawkman, and Angelflame turned up on the night too. I've > >>> forgotten the drummers name. > >>> > >>> The gig was very good > >>> > >>> It's got Blanga > >>> > >>> It was video'd by someone. > >>> > >>> It will be ready in a couple of days. > >>> > >>> It will be ?10 free postage. > >>> > >>> I'm trying to get it out in time for Xmas > >>> > >>> Stop talking about other people and start talking about me...ME ME ME > >>> d'ya > >>> hear! > >>> > >>> > >>> Judge Trev > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>> From: "mike coleman" > >>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:49 PM > >>> To: > >>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > >>> > >>> Trev my endeavors transforming a common high-school dropout into mangod > >>>> allow me little time to afford any attention on how to play PAL > >>>> DVDS..... > >>>> and you know how I hate computers making any noise...... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 12/7/08, trev wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> to tex coleman > >>>>> > >>>>> so i offer you all the magnificent inner city hawks collectors video > >>>>> you offer me your sister > >>>>> and i hear nothing...nothing > >>>>> no one likes me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa > >>>>> > >>>>> trev > >>>>> > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> From: "trev" > >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:53 PM > >>>>> To: > >>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > >>>>> > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>>> From: "mike coleman" > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:18 PM > >>>>>> To: > >>>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space > >>>>>> Rangers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Come to the states > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> travel to Upland Caluifornia with me > >>>>>>> do my sister > >>>>>>> shes says she's lean and trim now > >>>>>>> I'm to old for young bands, the acid isn't potent like it was....in > >>>>>>> fact > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>> it acid anymore?? > >>>>>>> how can anybody have anything to offer musically anymore when > >>>>>>> everyone > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>> a > >>>>>>> sheep?? (other than whipped cream and destruction) (or shaving cream > >>>>>>> if > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>> doesn't glob off) > >>>>>>> the problem is not the Trilateral shepherds, it's the grazing masses > >>>>>>> who > >>>>>>> chose the pasture even when they are shown a cut in the barbed-wire > >>>>>>> fence, > >>>>>>> and refuse to allow themselves to see that they are mowing the lawns > >>>>>>> of > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> elite > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 12/4/08, trev wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> no referee's > >>>>>>>> all he has to do is assume that everything is mine, and we'll get > >>>>>>>> along > >>>>>>>> fine. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> now about the inner city hawks...i notice that no one has > >>>>>>>> commented. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> their first and last gig? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it'll show all the youth bands just what we gods can do without > >>>>>>>> even > >>>>>>>> rehearsing > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> a collectors "must" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> maybe you've all got it anyway > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> i'm 58 now > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> trev > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> From: "mike coleman" > >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 1:40 PM > >>>>>>>> To: > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space > >>>>>>>> Rangers > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> OMG!!! here is a way to for you to enjoy it!!!!, well actually a > >>>>>>>> way > >>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>> to enjoy someone else enjoying it!!!, and NOBODYeven has to eat it > >>>>>>>>> did I mention the 3CD bootleg ICU set "attack of the mad saxman"?? > >>>>>>>>> did I ask if there was a legetimate release called "acid punks"??, > >>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>> thought > >>>>>>>>> I saw that title when I was too depressed to do music yet > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can I be the referee, between you 2, just keep that nasty whipped > >>>>>>>>>> cream > >>>>>>>>>> among those who like the stuff, ak! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Mary > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:57 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: (OFF)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space > >>>>>>>>>> Rangers > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I mean whipped creamed, and you'll have to ask Steve about the > >>>>>>>>>> disc,,,,,it's > >>>>>>>>>> HIS!!! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 12/3/08, mike coleman wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > yes 'youre welcome to the name, but I want my brighton punk > > >>>>>>>>>> chicks > >>>>>>>>>> whipped > >>>>>>>>>> > and creamed, and lots of destruction taking place > >>>>>>>>>> > I will not only live but thrive vicariously through this.... > >>>>>>>>>> > oh, you want my cd..... > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > On 12/3/08, trev wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> give it to me > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> -------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>> >> From: "mike coleman" > >>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:20 PM > >>>>>>>>>> >> To: > >>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> On 12/2/08, Amphetamine Embalmer > >>>>>>>>>> >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> i have a 120 minute VHS of icu at Dingwalls 86, awesome >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> quality > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> bob > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> calvert too! > >>>>>>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> is that the one where Calvert is standing there puffing away > >>>>>>>>>> >>> on > >>>>>>>>>> >>> his > >>>>>>>>>> >>> pipe?? > >>>>>>>>>> >>> do you have the *STEREO *label successor to the Queen > >>>>>>>>>> >>> Elizabeth > >>>>>>>>>> >>> show, > >>>>>>>>>> >>> where > >>>>>>>>>> >>> Calvert is telling the audience he hopes they haven't just > >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> interrupted > >>>>>>>>>> >>> their > >>>>>>>>>> >>> converstation?? > >>>>>>>>>> >>> well I do, shit, Steve, what am I sending next???? > >>>>>>>>>> >>> bring on the *JUDGEMATICS!!!! *ya think?? > >>>>>>>>>> >>> ** > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>> > > -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Dec 8 16:03:50 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 16:03:50 -0500 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 08 Dec 2008, at 10:36 , trev wrote: > anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's > doesn't it? My limited understanding is that most DVD players convert on the fly between NTSC and PAL, so that's not an issue usually. However, a Yooessan will need to check that their DVD player is multi-regional in order to play discs from the Yookay (and vice versa); the US is Region 1, and the UK is in Region 2. (Here in Colombia, I'm in Region 4.) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 8 16:15:23 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:15:23 -0000 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812031156l1385b1e5r8c8a4512b1f24111@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040540x3bd10655u1ed0a46cd5ca57a1@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812040718t38db0e7at7c16e2f204beaf45@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812070949u4f2afe09xab679f66f11ff235@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610812080747r657e6ac5k7ba81919710a6e79@mail.gmail.com> <20081208192017.M51246@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: good point arjan, the post included far too many old irrelevant posts ( a ridiculous amount)..and thanks for reminding us. trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Arjan Hulsebos" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:21 PM To: Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks > Well, if you got nothing to say...... > > In the mean time, please check out > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style > 2nd example. > > Gr, > > Arjan H > > > On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:16:17 -0000, trev wrote >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "mike coleman" >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:47 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks >> >> > last time I checked DVD's were videos unless you're compressing MP3's >> > on >> > them or something, of course I have NO clue what i just said but it >> > feels >> > right, and god Lemmy singing "Liar" in the morning sure is sweet and by >> > the >> > way Ron says you have to give me a free copy or he's going to take up >> > issue >> > with you over the name >> > ha!! >> > >> > >> > On 12/8/08, trev wrote: >> >> >> >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's >> >> doesn't it? >> >> >> >> you're trying to mislead me so i enter the gates of hell >> >> >> >> t From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Dec 9 06:12:04 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:12:04 GMT Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Dec 9 06:46:00 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:46:00 +0100 Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: <200812091112.mB9BC4b5026895@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 11:12:04 GMT, M Holmes wrote > Claims that up to 70% of the UK can't edit Wikipedia due to Internet > Watch Foundation censorship of a Scorpions album cover: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/12/wikipedia_is_censored.html Not commenting on whether this is censorship or not, this is what happens when you hand over control to a third party over which you have no control. The solution is fairly simple: get yoursenf a decent ISP. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Dec 9 07:24:22 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:24:22 GMT Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: Arjan Hulsebos's message of Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:46:00 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Dec 9 07:36:55 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:36:55 +0100 Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: <200812091224.mB9COMeU008306@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:24:22 GMT, M Holmes wrote > I'm vaguely tempted to point IWF at the Blind Faith album to see if > we can up the ante a bit. I do wonder if they've bitten off more > than they can chew this time. When you're on a crusade, you'll bite at just about anything... > I get it through work and up to yesterday Wikipedia was OK. I'm sure > I've seen that Scorpions cover quite a few times hunting through > record bins. I'd have thought that if it was going to destroy > Britain, it'd have managed it by now. If the (now) woman in the > picture was upset about it I'd be more sympathetic to the IWF case, > but it seems she's not. If she'd been upset about it, there are other, and more effective ways to resolve the issue. This is pretty much like a bunch of loonies out on a crusade. Kinda like that other crusade, that "war on terror". Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Dec 9 07:38:52 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 07:38:52 EST Subject: OFF Wikipedia censorship over album cover Message-ID: In a message dated 09/12/2008 12:25:08 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: I'm vaguely tempted to point IWF at the Blind Faith album to see if we can up the ante a bit. At least that "supergroup" didn't include a version of Good Morning Little Schoolgirl on their album. What's that all about anyway, and is it acceptable for that song to be included in setlists now? Steve - ready for take off. From tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Dec 9 09:09:41 2008 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:09:41 -0500 Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: A<20081209123148.M18006@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: When you're on a crusade, you'll bite at just about anything... > I get it through work and up to yesterday Wikipedia was OK. I'm sure > I've seen that Scorpions cover quite a few times hunting through > record bins. I'd have thought that if it was going to destroy > Britain, it'd have managed it by now. If the (now) woman in the > picture was upset about it I'd be more sympathetic to the IWF case, > but it seems she's not. If she'd been upset about it, there are other, and more effective ways to resolve the issue. This is pretty much like a bunch of loonies out on a crusade. Kinda like that other crusade, that "war on terror". Gr, Arjan H Hehe, yah, that, and the 'war on drugs' both of which are such roaring successes... From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Tue Dec 9 12:33:52 2008 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:33:52 +0000 Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: <20081209123148.M18006@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: Original message from Arjan Hulsebos : > If she'd been upset about it, there are other, and more effective ways to > resolve the issue. This is pretty much like a bunch of loonies out on a > crusade. Kinda like that other crusade, that "war on terror". Same people are probably responsible, too. WorldNetDaily and the Conservative Women of America have been after Wikipedia to pull the image for some time. WND has gone so far as to report it to the FBI. Wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn that the complaint to IWF came from someone involved in a related organization. From jonathan at ATT.NET Tue Dec 9 13:56:14 2008 From: jonathan at ATT.NET (Jonathan Clark) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:56:14 -0500 Subject: PAL and NTSC on DVDs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: trev wrote: >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's doesn't it? No, it applies to DVDs as well. This is a subject with a lot of piece-parts, and I'm sure I do not understand it fully, but here's a summary. Corrections and/or pointers to a better article welcome. There are three main TV broadcast systems in use in the world (plus variants on each): PAL (mainly Europe and the ex-Empire countries, but not France and its ex-Empire, plus China, Brazil, and Argentina); SECAM (France, its ex-Empire and Russia), and NTSC (North, Central and South America except for Brazil and Argentina, and Japan). NTSC was the first system and is the simplest, SECAM came later and is more complex, and PAL came last and seems to give the best results. The video on a DVD (or a videotape) will always be always be encoded with one of these formats. Nearly all TVs will only "do" one format. The capabilities of DVD players seem to vary greatly around the world. Multi-system TVs do exist, as do multi-system DVD players. These work together because this sort of DVD player just outputs whatever format the DVD is in, without conversion. A PAL/NTSC converting DVD player will read both PAL and NTSC disks and output either PAL or NTSC, converting as necessary. It turns out that up-converting NTSC to PAL is so easy that most DVD players in the UK include this feature. Going the other way is harder (I don't know why) or perhaps just rarer. But Wait There's More - keep reading! Carl Edlund Anderson replied: > My limited understanding is that most DVD players convert on the fly > between NTSC and PAL, so that's not an issue usually. That seems to be true in the UK, but is certainly not true here in the US. Basically all DVD players sold here are NTSC-only. Converting DVD players do exist, and are quite legal, but they are hard(er) to find. You will not find one in your local Wal-Mart, for example. > between NTSC and PAL, so that's not an issue usually. However, a > Yooessan will need to check that their DVD player is multi-regional > in order to play discs from the Yookay (and vice versa); the US is > Region 1, and the UK is in Region 2. (Here in Colombia, I'm in > Region 4.) You are quite right, and that is the other thing to watch out for. DVDs also come with a 'Region code' number (0-6) on them, which is just a way of restricting where they can be played. DVD players also contain this number. When you put a DVD into a player it compares its number with that on the DVD, if they don't match then the player will refuse to play the disk. However, if either number is zero (0) then the test always passes (hence the occasional reference to a Region-0 disk). See http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.10 Some players come with their region code set to zero, and others can be 'hacked' to set this. See e.g. http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks So if I (living in the US) go to the UK and buy a DVD, I have two hurdles to jump to get it to play here: first, the PAL/NTSC conversion, second, the region code. The simplest solution is to purchase a converting region-free DVD player. There are other solutions - some video authoring packages have this capability so you can read the disk in on a PC, convert it to the other format, then burn it to a DVD. You still have to strip the region code off, though (there are other programs which will do this). The whole issue of playing DVDs on PCs is even more insane - any format can be played, but the PC may or may not respect the region code. However, at least for Windows, there is a secret counter in almost all drives which gets incremented every time you switch formats. Once this hits five (5), the drive is locked in that format, and refuses to play any other. So if you only play NTSC or PAL DVDs this won't affect you, but if you play one, then the other, then the first, then pretty soon your DVD drive will stop playing one or the other disk. It may be possible to reset or disable this counter, see e.g. http://tdb.rpc1.org/ I believe that Apple computers work the same way, but I'm not sure. I have no clue about the various flavours of Linux. There is no PAL/SECAM/NTSC stuff with Blu-Ray disks, but there are region codes still. So far most disks seem to be region-free. Also note that the regions are different from DVD region codes (there are only three of them, for example). I must say I'm grateful to Hawkwind (among others) for putting their DVDs out as NTSC Region 0, it means that I can "just play them" here, as can those in the UK. Jonathan From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Dec 9 14:29:20 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:29:20 -0500 Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: <200812091112.mB9BC4b5026895@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 9 Dec 2008, at 6:12 AM, M Holmes wrote: > Claims that up to 70% of the UK can't edit Wikipedia due to Internet > Watch Foundation censorship of a Scorpions album cover: There's more coverage on this on The Register, and The Guardian even had a flowchart outlining how the filtering is done. The reason why most of the UK can't edit Wikipedia is because of the poor transparent proxying performed by the filtering mechanism. (Not enough information about the original request is passed onwards.) So, to Wikipedia, it appeared as if all requests were coming from behind the same IP address and they blocked anonymous editing of pages because they couldn't disambiguate the edits to a level of granularity that satisfies them. Registered WikiWonks can still log in and edit, though, you'll no doubt be delighted to hear. :-) The filtering system didn't sound too scalable to me. What we need to do is to get some more popular sites onto the block list (there were hints of Amazon; mebbe someone should whip up a YouTube clip of a bunch of people holding up the Scorpions album cover to get that site added) so as to have the thing bring itself down under the weight of its own creakiness... >:-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Dec 9 14:35:05 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:35:05 -0500 Subject: PAL and NTSC on DVDs In-Reply-To: <493EBF4E.5060705@att.net> Message-ID: On 09 Dec 2008, at 13:56 , Jonathan Clark wrote: > Carl Edlund Anderson replied: >> My limited understanding is that most DVD players convert on the >> fly between NTSC and PAL, so that's not an issue usually. > > That seems to be true in the UK, but is certainly not true here in > the US. > Basically all DVD players sold here are NTSC-only. Converting DVD > players > do exist, and are quite legal, but they are hard(er) to find. You > will not > find one in your local Wal-Mart, for example. Although I did find a cheapo multi-region DVD player in a local Carrefour hypermarket here in Colombia that will happily play my PAL DVDs from the UK. :) (Colombia, in Region 4, is a NTSC shop, I believe). However, my modus operandi is to drag a selection of DVDs from different places along to the shop and "try before you buy". That's the easiest way to be sure! :) > The whole issue of playing DVDs on PCs is even more insane - any > format can be > played, but the PC may or may not respect the region code. However, > at least for > Windows, there is a secret counter in almost all drives which gets > incremented > every time you switch formats. Once this hits five (5), the drive > is locked in > that format, and refuses to play any other. So if you only play > NTSC or PAL DVDs > this won't affect you, but if you play one, then the other, then > the first, then > pretty soon your DVD drive will stop playing one or the other disk. > It may be > possible to reset or disable this counter, see e.g. http:// > tdb.rpc1.org/ > I believe that Apple computers work the same way, but I'm not sure. Yes, on OS X, if you use the system's DVD playing software, it asks for for your region the first time and thereafter only allows that region (or possibly you have 10 plays before the region is fixed, or something like that.). However, if you use a 3rd-party player like VLC, you get around that issue. It is possible to hack the firmware on some Apple-supplied DVD drives, but I've never bothered with that; a rarely play DVDs on my computer. > There is no PAL/SECAM/NTSC stuff with Blu-Ray disks, but there are > region codes still. > So far most disks seem to be region-free. I think even the film industry started to find region coding to be more hassle than it was worth. Dumb idea, really! :) > I must say I'm grateful to Hawkwind (among others) for putting > their DVDs out as > NTSC Region 0, it means that I can "just play them" here, as can > those in the UK. Yes, quite a lot of music DVDs started coming out as region-free/ Region 0 once the bands and/or their management basically realized that region-coding was a hindrance to sales and distribution. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From joe.e at TELIA.COM Tue Dec 9 14:35:03 2008 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 20:35:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Leif Edling/Candlemass revealed as a Hawkfan. In-Reply-To: <001401c95953$e239db90$6501a8c0@MAJKA> Message-ID: hi, Leif Edling, long time bassman in Sweden's Candlemass, has put out his first solo effort _Songs of torment, Songs of Joy_ http://www.ginza.se/index.aspx?artnr=236926 Fourth track on this entity is entitled "On The Edge Of Time", and is described as a 'poetic reflection of an old hawkwind album cover'. http://www.collectable-records.ru/groups/hawkwind/warrior.htm If you check out this link http://www.sr.se/webbradio/webbradio.asp?type=broadcast&Id=1475409 you'll find a radio broadcast from the National Swedish Radio with about half an hour of music and interviews regarding this release. For example Leif Edling describes the how he put the folded out shield cover in front of him, pour up some wine and penned like twenty verses of lyric. The interview is in Swedish, but the music is international. You can scroll to the interesting parts using this time scheme: 07:10-10:10 LEIF EDLING: THE SCAR 10:10-11:20 Interview: Why your first Solo Effort now, after 20 years as artist? 11:20-14:05 LEIF EDLING: IT IS NOT THERE 14:05-15:00 Interview: Why your first... (cont'd) 15:00-17:25 LEIF EDLING: ON THE EDGE OF TIME (pt I) 17:25-19:05 Interview: You're not a vocalist, how did you find your singing style? 19:05-20:35 LEIF EDLING: ON THE EDGE OF TIME (pt II) 20:35-22:20 Interview: Descriprion of the OtEoT creation process. 22:20-26:55 LEIF EDLING: ON THE EDGE OF TIME (pt III) 26:55-28:55 Interview: What does Hawkwind mean for you? 28:55-32:10 HAWKWIND: KINGS OF SPEED 32:10-32:40 Leif Edling Section End I'll need this album. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Dec 9 14:40:01 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:40:01 -0000 Subject: PAL and NTSC on DVDs In-Reply-To: <493EBF4E.5060705@att.net> Message-ID: thanks jonathan, i test them on realplayer, windows media, and a dvd player...i am in the UK maybe i should say that? ...to cover myself. lol trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Clark" Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:56 PM To: Subject: Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs > trev wrote: >>> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's doesn't it? > > No, it applies to DVDs as well. > > This is a subject with a lot of piece-parts, and I'm sure I do not > understand > it fully, but here's a summary. Corrections and/or pointers to a better > article > welcome. > > There are three main TV broadcast systems in use in the world (plus > variants on > each): PAL (mainly Europe and the ex-Empire countries, but not France and > its > ex-Empire, plus China, Brazil, and Argentina); SECAM (France, its > ex-Empire and > Russia), and NTSC (North, Central and South America except for Brazil and > Argentina, > and Japan). NTSC was the first system and is the simplest, SECAM came > later and is > more complex, and PAL came last and seems to give the best results. > > The video on a DVD (or a videotape) will always be always be encoded with > one of > these formats. > > Nearly all TVs will only "do" one format. The capabilities of DVD players > seem to > vary greatly around the world. > > Multi-system TVs do exist, as do multi-system DVD players. These work > together because > this sort of DVD player just outputs whatever format the DVD is in, > without conversion. > > A PAL/NTSC converting DVD player will read both PAL and NTSC disks and > output either > PAL or NTSC, converting as necessary. It turns out that up-converting NTSC > to PAL is > so easy that most DVD players in the UK include this feature. Going the > other way is > harder (I don't know why) or perhaps just rarer. But Wait There's More - > keep reading! > > Carl Edlund Anderson replied: >> My limited understanding is that most DVD players convert on the fly >> between NTSC and PAL, so that's not an issue usually. > > That seems to be true in the UK, but is certainly not true here in the US. > Basically all DVD players sold here are NTSC-only. Converting DVD players > do exist, and are quite legal, but they are hard(er) to find. You will not > find one in your local Wal-Mart, for example. > >> between NTSC and PAL, so that's not an issue usually. However, a >> Yooessan will need to check that their DVD player is multi-regional in >> order to play discs from the Yookay (and vice versa); the US is Region >> 1, and the UK is in Region 2. (Here in Colombia, I'm in Region 4.) > > You are quite right, and that is the other thing to watch out for. DVDs > also > come with a 'Region code' number (0-6) on them, which is just a way of > restricting > where they can be played. DVD players also contain this number. When you > put a > DVD into a player it compares its number with that on the DVD, if they > don't > match then the player will refuse to play the disk. However, if either > number > is zero (0) then the test always passes (hence the occasional reference to > a > Region-0 disk). See http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.10 > > Some players come with their region code set to zero, and others can be > 'hacked' > to set this. See e.g. http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks > > So if I (living in the US) go to the UK and buy a DVD, I have two hurdles > to jump > to get it to play here: first, the PAL/NTSC conversion, second, the region > code. > The simplest solution is to purchase a converting region-free DVD player. > There > are other solutions - some video authoring packages have this capability > so > you can read the disk in on a PC, convert it to the other format, then > burn it > to a DVD. You still have to strip the region code off, though (there are > other > programs which will do this). > > The whole issue of playing DVDs on PCs is even more insane - any format > can be > played, but the PC may or may not respect the region code. However, at > least for > Windows, there is a secret counter in almost all drives which gets > incremented > every time you switch formats. Once this hits five (5), the drive is > locked in > that format, and refuses to play any other. So if you only play NTSC or > PAL DVDs > this won't affect you, but if you play one, then the other, then the > first, then > pretty soon your DVD drive will stop playing one or the other disk. It may > be > possible to reset or disable this counter, see e.g. http://tdb.rpc1.org/ > > I believe that Apple computers work the same way, but I'm not sure. I have > no > clue about the various flavours of Linux. > > There is no PAL/SECAM/NTSC stuff with Blu-Ray disks, but there are region > codes still. > So far most disks seem to be region-free. Also note that the regions are > different > from DVD region codes (there are only three of them, for example). > > I must say I'm grateful to Hawkwind (among others) for putting their DVDs > out as > NTSC Region 0, it means that I can "just play them" here, as can those in > the UK. > > Jonathan > From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Tue Dec 9 15:23:44 2008 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:23:44 -0800 Subject: PAL and NTSC on DVDs Message-ID: J.C. wrote... > >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not > dvd's doesn't it? > > No, it applies to DVDs as well. > > This is a subject with a lot of piece-parts, and I'm > sure I do not understand > it fully, but here's a summary. Corrections and/or > pointers to a better article welcome. I'm just a layperson on this subject as well, but my understanding is that the difference in all "video" (ie, scanned images displayed on rows of pixels on a screen) between No.Amer./Japan (NTSC) and Europe/rest of world (PAL) reflects very basic differences that cannot be changed with any new format. Conversion is the only way. And that basic difference is in part due to the difference in electrical power, *not* the voltage difference but rather the frequency, 50 Hz vs. 60 Hz. Because the scan rate is set to match the frequency of the alternating current in order to avoid weird interference patterns on your screen. Actually, it is effectively half the frequency (25 vs. 30 scans per second) because the rows of pixels are offset between one (odd-numbered) row and the next (even-numbered) row below it. I mean, the pixel dots are not in vertical rows, but are 'close-packed' to increase the density. (Therefore, if your eyes were really good, the top and bottom edge of a screen should look 'sharp' and the left and right side of the image a bit fuzzy.) And so the image has to be built in two 'halves' (odd and even rows separately, one after the other) in fact. And so converters (called CODECs? or something) have to 'interpolate' the extra 5 images per second if going one way, and remove some going the other way (NTSC-PAL). There is also a difference in the pixel density, PAL has (IIRC) higher resolution and therefore more pixel lines per scan (ie., the physical screen is different). But while that could theoretically be standardized worldwide, the electrical power difference would still remain, and there would still be a need for multiple video systems. Right? > Nearly all TVs will only "do" one format. The > capabilities of DVD players seem to > vary greatly around the world. As should be clear, ALL TVs can ONLY do one format (the pixel rows are physical entities), for sure...if they show an image from another format, it is because it has been converted somewhere. DVD players don't actually show the image, they just read the data off the disc and feed it to the video display device, so that's a fundamental difference there. And yes, they can have converters (or not) too. Of course, DVD players more commonly, because it is relatively common to buy a US DVD in a European store, whereas watching TV anywhere, you just project the video that you receive (over the air, or by cable, or from your DVD player), which is normally the right format for your screen (although satellite receivers must have converters in those boxes?, for foreign channels at least). Less of a reason to have one in your TV then. > It turns out that > up-converting NTSC to PAL is > so easy that most DVD players in the UK include this > feature. Going the other way is > harder (I don't know why) or perhaps just rarer. Maybe it is because NTSC has extra images (5 more) per second that can just be thrown out (or rather, a half-image of the odd-row of Image No. 3-NTSC mixed with a half-image of the even-row of Image No. 4-NTSC to make Image No. 3-PAL, whereas 1,2,5 and 6 NTSC are all taken straight across as images 1,2,4, and 5 PAL. Repeat until 25 images are made from the original 30.) ...is the way I think it actually goes. This happens five times a second, so your eye wouldn't actually see this overlapping of half-images, unless Jerry Bruckheimer was director and the images only routinely last 0.2 seconds between cuts. > Some players come with their region code set to zero, and > others can be 'hacked' > to set this. See e.g. http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks Yes, but some 'hacks' *only* do the region-encoding part (Which is useless if your TV is the wrong type), as some DVD players actually do not have the format CODEC in there. But many actually *do,* because lots of basic computer-chip parts of DVD players are so mass-produced, that the same basic part is used for 100 different DVD players (of different sophistication and cost). And the manufacturers just have the extra features either turned 'on' or 'off' via these 'hack codes' to fit the particular model. I know, that sounds like companies are ripping you off, by selling you a cheap model that can theoretically do exactly what the more expensive one can do, even though all the same electronics are in there. But I gather it is not so simple as that...and I have heard that using a hack code to turn on a feature is sometimes dangerous to your player, because it is enabling a feature that the *rest* of the electronics in the device is actually not designed to cooperate with. > There is no PAL/SECAM/NTSC stuff with Blu-Ray disks, but > there are region codes still. > So far most disks seem to be region-free. Also note that > the regions are different > from DVD region codes (there are only three of them, for > example). I don't know anything about BluRay, but this must be true only if BluRay is a completely new video system. Which I guess might be true, because it is SuperHighDef (right?), with presumably many more pixel lines per image. So if you project it on any standard TV of today, the image at that point would then be downgraded/converted to either PAL or NTSC. But if it were on a super duper plasma high-def TV, then it wouldn't. So the (TV) display and the (disc) output are not necessarily one and the same, no matter the situation. And if BluRay is a totally new video format of its own, wouldn't its scanrate(s) still have to be set to fit the electrical power grid? Or is there something so fundamentally different about HD that that isn't an issue anymore? Grakkl, who took a course in digital video editing a few years ago, but has unfortunately no practical experience in the field From bloody.peasant at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 9 15:56:47 2008 From: bloody.peasant at GMAIL.COM (Roy G. Ovrebo) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:56:47 +0100 Subject: PAL and NTSC on DVDs In-Reply-To: <23102.40588.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Keith Henderson wrote: > J.C. wrote... > >> >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not >> dvd's doesn't it? >> >> No, it applies to DVDs as well. >> >> This is a subject with a lot of piece-parts, and I'm >> sure I do not understand >> it fully, but here's a summary. Corrections and/or >> pointers to a better article welcome. > > I'm just a layperson on this subject as well, but my understanding is that the difference in all "video" (ie, scanned images displayed on rows of pixels on a screen) between No.Amer./Japan (NTSC) and Europe/rest of world (PAL) reflects very basic differences that cannot be changed with any new format. Conversion is the only way. And that basic difference is in part due to the difference in electrical power, *not* the voltage difference but rather the frequency, 50 Hz vs. 60 Hz. Because the scan rate is set to match the frequency of the alternating current in order to avoid weird interference patterns on your screen. I think that isn't a problem anymore. TV system frequency doesn't have to be wedded to the power frequency. [snip] >> It turns out that >> up-converting NTSC to PAL is >> so easy that most DVD players in the UK include this >> feature. Going the other way is >> harder (I don't know why) or perhaps just rarer. > > Maybe it is because NTSC has extra images (5 more) per second that can just be thrown out (or rather, a half-image of the odd-row of Image No. 3-NTSC mixed with a half-image of the even-row of Image No. 4-NTSC to make Image No. 3-PAL, whereas 1,2,5 and 6 NTSC are all taken straight across as images 1,2,4, and 5 PAL. Repeat until 25 images are made from the original 30.) ...is the way I think it actually goes. This happens five times a second, so your eye wouldn't actually see this overlapping of half-images, unless Jerry Bruckheimer was director and the images only routinely last 0.2 seconds between cuts. Wikipedia: "Many newer VCR and DVD players sold in Europe can play back NTSC tapes/discs. When operating in this mode most of them do not output a true (625/25) PAL signal but rather a hybrid of PAL and NTSC known as "PAL 60" (or "pseudo PAL") with "60" standing for 60 Hz, instead of 50 Hz. Some video game consoles also output a signal in this mode. Most newer television sets can display such a signal correctly but some will only do so (if at all) in black and white and/or with flickering/foldover at the bottom of the picture, or picture rolling" My personal experience: Most DVD players now will convert the colours of this PAL 60. Most TVs now will get the colours right without depending on the DVD player. I've got an old TV. When playing an NTSC disc on one DVD player, it'll display in black'n'white, because neither the DVD player nor the TV set will handle the converted colours right. Plug that DVD player into a more modern TV and I'll get colour. I've also got another DVD player that'll show NTSC discs in colour on the old TV. So if your DVD player _and_ TV aren't _both_ crap, you should be able to play NTSC discs in colour... -- Roy From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Dec 9 17:17:57 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:17:57 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:17:19PM -0000, trev typed out: > For instance, just imagine if there was a full-length video of the only gig > that the legendary Inner City Hawks ever played, and it was really good, > and it was about to be unleashed upon the Blessed Ones. I went back digging in the archives to try and find out why I didn't make that gig, and what it had been like, and *no-one* seems to have mentioned it. In fact the only thread developing from it seems to be some Judge Trev character, selling videos of it... But seriously, how does it compare to, for example, _Bajina_? And why, why haven't I bought _Naked_ yet? That might be more of a question... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Tue Dec 9 17:24:41 2008 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:24:41 -0800 Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: <200812091224.mB9COMeU008306@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP sez... > I get it through work and up to yesterday Wikipedia was OK. > I'm sure I've seen that Scorpions cover quite a few times > hunting through record bins. I owned a copy of the original LP (Virgin Killer) for many years, and then tried to sell it on Ebay two years ago. I was smart enough to censor my photo image when I posted the listing. But that didn't matter! As everyone knows, the Ferengi run Ebay, and consider *not* showing the "offending" parts actually *more* offensive for some reason. So they nixed the auction within hours. Not that they "won" or anything. Somebody who had been trying to buy a copy of this album for months, only to see every auction cancelled by Ebay, wrote me personally (warning me my posting wouldn't last the day despite my image-censoring) and we worked out a deal between ourselves once the auction was nixed. Maybe I could have gotten a little more money out of the sale than the price we negotiated, but at least I got the satisfaction of selling my merchandise (thanks to Ebay) without even having to pay any Ebay/PayPal fees at all for the listing or sale! :) The only thing I don't understand about the BBC article is that they consider the Scorpions to be somewhat 'obscure.' ?! OK, when that album came out, they were not widely known around the world, but five years later they were on top of it. Or at least on "Top of the Bill." Grakkl (Bornich an der Loreley) From tim at KALYR.COM Tue Dec 9 17:33:04 2008 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 22:33:04 +0000 Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: <533891.86571.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: > The only thing I don't understand about the BBC article is that they consider the Scorpions to be somewhat 'obscure.' ?! OK, when that album came out, they were not widely known around the world, but five years later they were on top of it. Or at least on "Top of the Bill." > The BBC do not acknowledge the existence of any forms of popular music apart from tuneless four-chord indie and sausage-factory pop. I believe it's official policy. If it's not on the (very narrow) Radio 1 playlist, it doesn't exist. -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Tue Dec 9 18:46:42 2008 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:46:42 -0800 Subject: OFF: Gong (w/ Hillage) at Burg Herzberg '09 In-Reply-To: <493EF220.5050800@kalyr.com> Message-ID: Hi Folks... Have just checked the Burg Herzberg (central Germany) webpage for the first time in awhile, and see that they've already got about 10 acts lined up for next year's fest. By far, the most interesting act is Trilogy Gong, with Steve Hillage again onstage! Super...so the Amsterdam and London gigs were just the beginning of Hillage playing old-school space rock again! Now, if only Hawkwind would sign up to come back again this (next) year. With luck, they wouldn't have the miserable rain problems and off-night that they had last time ('05 was it?). (And Amon Duul two, too, who have brought back Danny Fischelcher on drums to replace the sadly-departed H.P. Leopold, and are planning to tour soon. The great Space Rock triumvirate all on one stage in one weekend...what a rush that would be!) Ciao...Grakkl From asg at MVDBASE.COM Tue Dec 9 18:56:12 2008 From: asg at MVDBASE.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:56:12 +0100 Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: <8426EC98-483F-49A9-869D-62BF4F4EE366@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: > > Claims that up to 70% of the UK can't edit Wikipedia due to Internet > > Watch Foundation censorship of a Scorpions album cover: > > There's more coverage on this on The Register, and The Guardian even > had a flowchart outlining how the filtering is done. Just found this on... the wikipedia page dedicated to the 'Virgin killer' album! Apparently, the ban didn't last very long: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sarah Robertson, director of communications for the IWF, stated that in collaboration with the Child Exploitation and Online Protection agency of the UK, the image had been rated as a "1 on a scale of 1 to 5, where 1 is the least offensive",[30] representing "erotic posing with no sexual activity". [30] On December 9, 2008, the IWF issued a statement reversing their blacklist of Wikipedia.[31] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BTW, note #31 points to this IWF link: http://www.iwf.org.uk/media/news.251.htm Alex. -- --------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : prog.xrs.net / rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Dec 9 20:19:27 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:19:27 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review Message-ID: ohmigod Exeter was a strange venue - it took an hour to find the place (Tim's comment that someone was trying to keep it a secret seemed all too true) and once through the door you came into a hall with a large bar and seating on one side while the other side comprised a sort of hotel reception area with a stage tucked away at the back - indeed as was pointed out to me - the bar area was larger than the stage area! It is therefore a huge tribute to the band and a credit to their professionalism, as well as the quality of their playing and the strength of the set that despite this they not only managed to fit everyone on stage, but had a full lightshow and played a very creditable set - though it can't have been easy - the dancers even had to perform on boxes laid out across the front of the stage! Set list was as Glasgow: Intro, Master of the Universe, Time We Left, Lighthouse (I'm entirely in favour of someone helping Tim with the vocals on this - it's a lovely track and works well with two vocalists), then an Alien intro - , then Orgone Acumulator / Only Dreaming, Whose Gonna Win The War (this is awesome and has been given a strong contemporary relevance with the dancers portraying soldiers - not dancing - just standing there with guns. The last time I saw something similar was Marrillion doing "Forgotten Heroes" but let us pass swiftly onwards! The audience reaction to this track is interestingly varied - there was silence at Newcastle, I'm not sure people quite knew what to make of it), swiftly followed by (and it's a very neatly crafted seque) Angels of Death/Life (with firey images of skull heads and a truly wonderful extended drum/choppy guitar/drum rhythm sequence - a glorious sound) then Wraith, Utopia (excellent version - clear vocals - images of the mindless masses on their way to work - as-indeed-I-should-be-tomorrow-don't-want-to-think-about-it), Damnation Alley, Sentinel - I like this, lyrical, calm and has the dancers/performers as strangely stooped giant stilted creatures stalking among the band on stage (though sadly they couldn't get on stage in Exeter) then Right to Decide (with a 3rd verse I haven't sussed yet), Fahrenheit 451 (Dibs doing an excellent job with the spoken verse), and Damnation Alley to end the set. In Exeter the encore was limited (unsurprisingly) to Silver Machine but in Newcastle the band started early so did an extended encore which included (hooray - I don't care what anyone says about repetitiveness I just love this!) Assault and Battery / Golden Void and Where Are They Now). Dave's guitar really makes these tracks come alive and "sing" but truly I could not have been happier. Overall I strongly feel the strength/quality of the overall sound is so much better with Tim and Niall contributing as well - you may not always be aware of them individually but the extra dimension makes a tremendous difference - at least it does when the sound mix doesn't deafen you. Anyhow - that's it for my tour this winter. Thank you and congratulations to everyone. Enjoy the rest of the tour! jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 06:18:48 2008 From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:18:48 +0000 Subject: PAL and NTSC on DVDs In-Reply-To: <493EBF4E.5060705@att.net> Message-ID: I just hacked my ?25 DVD player to region 0! Now I can watch "The Corner" on DVD! Thanks Jonathan! BTW saw the Hawks at Hard Rock Hell at weekend. Cut down 1 hour set, but very tight. New bloke v. good, twiddly guitar stuff and keyboard stuff too, as well as bass (yes, two basses) on one song. Seems Mr. Dibs' sound has beefed up a bit too, although the sound didn't really balance at all until halfway through first number, masters. Apparently, Black Label Society the headline act hogged all the soundcheck time and also Litmus and Hawkwind almost came to blows when setting up. American band, Clutch, who'd been in Glasgow the night before went on cold and were ace, reallly hard southern blues based rock. Met some very nice Hawkfans and looked at photos of each others dogs! > Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 13:56:14 -0500> From: jonathan at ATT.NET> Subject: Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > trev wrote:> >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's doesn't it?> > No, it applies to DVDs as well.> > This is a subject with a lot of piece-parts, and I'm sure I do not understand> it fully, but here's a summary. Corrections and/or pointers to a better article> welcome.> > There are three main TV broadcast systems in use in the world (plus variants on> each): PAL (mainly Europe and the ex-Empire countries, but not France and its> ex-Empire, plus China, Brazil, and Argentina); SECAM (France, its ex-Empire and> Russia), and NTSC (North, Central and South America except for Brazil and Argentina,> and Japan). NTSC was the first system and is the simplest, SECAM came later and is> more complex, and PAL came last and seems to give the best results.> > The video on a DVD (or a videotape) will always be always be encoded with one of> these formats.> > Nearly all TVs will only "do" one format. The capabilities of DVD players seem to> vary greatly around the world.> > Multi-system TVs do exist, as do multi-system DVD players. These work together because> this sort of DVD player just outputs whatever format the DVD is in, without conversion.> > A PAL/NTSC converting DVD player will read both PAL and NTSC disks and output either> PAL or NTSC, converting as necessary. It turns out that up-converting NTSC to PAL is> so easy that most DVD players in the UK include this feature. Going the other way is> harder (I don't know why) or perhaps just rarer. But Wait There's More - keep reading!> > Carl Edlund Anderson replied:> > My limited understanding is that most DVD players convert on the fly > > between NTSC and PAL, so that's not an issue usually.> > That seems to be true in the UK, but is certainly not true here in the US.> Basically all DVD players sold here are NTSC-only. Converting DVD players> do exist, and are quite legal, but they are hard(er) to find. You will not> find one in your local Wal-Mart, for example.> > > between NTSC and PAL, so that's not an issue usually. However, a > > Yooessan will need to check that their DVD player is multi-regional > > in order to play discs from the Yookay (and vice versa); the US is > > Region 1, and the UK is in Region 2. (Here in Colombia, I'm in > > Region 4.)> > You are quite right, and that is the other thing to watch out for. DVDs also> come with a 'Region code' number (0-6) on them, which is just a way of restricting> where they can be played. DVD players also contain this number. When you put a> DVD into a player it compares its number with that on the DVD, if they don't> match then the player will refuse to play the disk. However, if either number> is zero (0) then the test always passes (hence the occasional reference to a> Region-0 disk). See http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.10> > Some players come with their region code set to zero, and others can be 'hacked'> to set this. See e.g. http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks> > So if I (living in the US) go to the UK and buy a DVD, I have two hurdles to jump> to get it to play here: first, the PAL/NTSC conversion, second, the region code.> The simplest solution is to purchase a converting region-free DVD player. There> are other solutions - some video authoring packages have this capability so> you can read the disk in on a PC, convert it to the other format, then burn it> to a DVD. You still have to strip the region code off, though (there are other> programs which will do this).> > The whole issue of playing DVDs on PCs is even more insane - any format can be> played, but the PC may or may not respect the region code. However, at least for> Windows, there is a secret counter in almost all drives which gets incremented> every time you switch formats. Once this hits five (5), the drive is locked in> that format, and refuses to play any other. So if you only play NTSC or PAL DVDs> this won't affect you, but if you play one, then the other, then the first, then> pretty soon your DVD drive will stop playing one or the other disk. It may be> possible to reset or disable this counter, see e.g. http://tdb.rpc1.org/> > I believe that Apple computers work the same way, but I'm not sure. I have no> clue about the various flavours of Linux.> > There is no PAL/SECAM/NTSC stuff with Blu-Ray disks, but there are region codes still.> So far most disks seem to be region-free. Also note that the regions are different> from DVD region codes (there are only three of them, for example).> > I must say I'm grateful to Hawkwind (among others) for putting their DVDs out as> NTSC Region 0, it means that I can "just play them" here, as can those in the UK.> > Jonathan _________________________________________________________________ Get Windows Live Messenger on your Mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000001ukm/direct/01/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Dec 10 07:06:39 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:06:39 -0500 Subject: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10 Dec 2008, at 06:18 , Edmund Clout wrote: > American band, Clutch, who'd been in Glasgow the night before went > on cold and were ace, reallly hard southern blues based rock. Clutch are veteran tourers and a great band! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 07:46:52 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:46:52 -0800 Subject: Urban Gorilla Message-ID: Mike's album purchases are part of the government's 5 trillion dollar bailout of the Space Rock industry. Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Friday, Dec 5, 2008 11:49 am Subject: Re: Urban Gorilla To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET there is no way anybody can beat my high bid not worried at all!!!! besides, jess is only a tape collector no worries mate, I will easily DESTROY THEM!!!! On 12/5/08, Wilfried Schuesler wrote: > Mike, > to be honest on this 7": > The seller has only zero points and Alfred and Jess/Canada are fighting over it. I think it will be better to let it go (though I do know I won't be able to stop you at all if you are willing). > Wilfried From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 07:54:35 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:54:35 -0800 Subject: HW : 70 new photos added Message-ID: By the way, I keep meaning to thank you for maintaining tangledwoof. That is just a freakin' awesome pics colllection - it's what I point people on other groups to when they ask what Hawkwind looks like in the 2000's.... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Alan Taylor Date: Saturday, Dec 6, 2008 6:41 pm Subject: HW : 70 new photos added To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Hi folks I've put a whole bunch of photos on www.tangledwoof.com, from the gig on Thursday night in Glasgow. I sent another bunch to Steve at starfarer.net so he will no doubt put these on his site sometime in the next few days. Cheers Alan From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 08:00:57 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:00:57 -0800 Subject: HW: Glasgow Message-ID: You know that description reminds me of the Hideaway Club gig years ago. The sound started out too soft, then slowly crept up until it was absolutely perfect, it was loud, but you could hear every note with ringing clarity. Then it kept getting louder still, until by the end it was your typical stadium loudness in a compact club problem.... Ah well, That worked pretty well for Hassan I Sabha actually.... :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes Date: Monday, Dec 8, 2008 10:15 am Subject: Re: HW: Glasgow To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Mr H writes: > M Holmes to BOC-L Mr H writes: > Hmm, my first posting since 2002. How time flies. > > Anyway, just wondering what folks thought of the Glasgow show tonight / last > night. >WHAT????? Well, it was just before midnight when I was sitting typing, and after midnight when I hit send, so it was last night / tonight. Hmmm. I meant it was FUCKING LOUD!!! Too loud: the sound was muffled and awful. We could hear guitar fuzz and little else. No vocals. Hardly any synth, Newcastle was very much better though. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 09:21:00 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:21:00 -0600 Subject: Urban Gorilla In-Reply-To: <3311740013.19630847@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Morning Steve, while it is true that I have NEVER been a cheapskate, and it still remains true today even though I am poor as weeds, a man named Alfred in Austria (I think) seems to be the reigning champ of hi-dollar spending now. he got my Urban Gorilla but I've had my revenge!!!!! we do expect the failed economy to produce many a vinyl delight, but I may have to ask my boss for finanical help he'd be German. you know the one. On 12/10/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > Mike's album purchases are part of the government's 5 trillion dollar > bailout of the Space Rock industry. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Friday, Dec 5, 2008 11:49 am > Subject: Re: Urban Gorilla > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > there is no way anybody can beat my high bid > not worried at all!!!! > besides, jess is only a tape collector > no worries mate, I will easily DESTROY THEM!!!! > > > On 12/5/08, Wilfried Schuesler wrote: > > > Mike, > > > to be honest on this 7": > > > The seller has only zero points and Alfred and Jess/Canada are fighting > over > it. I think it will be better to let it go (though I do know I won't be > able > to stop you at all if you are willing). > > > Wilfried > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Dec 10 09:47:13 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:47:13 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review In-Reply-To: <6C7D1C94BBC8466399C083E8F232DF9C@jillspc> Message-ID: Thanks very much for this interesting review Jill Are you sure that they did FAHRENHEIT 451 ??? Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jill Strobridge Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:19 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review ohmigod Exeter was a strange venue - it took an hour to find the place (Tim's comment that someone was trying to keep it a secret seemed all too true) and once through the door you came into a hall with a large bar and seating on one side while the other side comprised a sort of hotel reception area with a stage tucked away at the back - indeed as was pointed out to me - the bar area was larger than the stage area! It is therefore a huge tribute to the band and a credit to their professionalism, as well as the quality of their playing and the strength of the set that despite this they not only managed to fit everyone on stage, but had a full lightshow and played a very creditable set - though it can't have been easy - the dancers even had to perform on boxes laid out across the front of the stage! Set list was as Glasgow: Intro, Master of the Universe, Time We Left, Lighthouse (I'm entirely in favour of someone helping Tim with the vocals on this - it's a lovely track and works well with two vocalists), then an Alien intro - , then Orgone Acumulator / Only Dreaming, Whose Gonna Win The War (this is awesome and has been given a strong contemporary relevance with the dancers portraying soldiers - not dancing - just standing there with guns. The last time I saw something similar was Marrillion doing "Forgotten Heroes" but let us pass swiftly onwards! The audience reaction to this track is interestingly varied - there was silence at Newcastle, I'm not sure people quite knew what to make of it), swiftly followed by (and it's a very neatly crafted seque) Angels of Death/Life (with firey images of skull heads and a truly wonderful extended drum/choppy guitar/drum rhythm sequence - a glorious sound) then Wraith, Utopia (excellent version - clear vocals - images of the mindless masses on their way to work - as-indeed-I-should-be-tomorrow-don't-want-to-think-about-it), Damnation Alley, Sentinel - I like this, lyrical, calm and has the dancers/performers as strangely stooped giant stilted creatures stalking among the band on stage (though sadly they couldn't get on stage in Exeter) then Right to Decide (with a 3rd verse I haven't sussed yet), Fahrenheit 451 (Dibs doing an excellent job with the spoken verse), and Damnation Alley to end the set. In Exeter the encore was limited (unsurprisingly) to Silver Machine but in Newcastle the band started early so did an extended encore which included (hooray - I don't care what anyone says about repetitiveness I just love this!) Assault and Battery / Golden Void and Where Are They Now). Dave's guitar really makes these tracks come alive and "sing" but truly I could not have been happier. Overall I strongly feel the strength/quality of the overall sound is so much better with Tim and Niall contributing as well - you may not always be aware of them individually but the extra dimension makes a tremendous difference - at least it does when the sound mix doesn't deafen you. Anyhow - that's it for my tour this winter. Thank you and congratulations to everyone. Enjoy the rest of the tour! jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 09:50:56 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:50:56 -0600 Subject: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Trevor after I came home last night, and phoned the HELLS ANGEL'S Dallas chapter about my personal disdain of submitting this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_war, in the name of "HEAVEN's LITTLE SISTERS", Brighton chapter, UK, where it was unanimously agreed that it should be sped-read at best, to show what we BOC-L brotherhood here gladly toss out the window in favor of more anarchistic solutions to little rumbles, it hit me as I was soaking in the tub: You could have been perceived as flaming me, and while it _Might_ be true that somebody out there thinks you play the guitar all wrong, have NO business singing, and as a result, have no respect for your self glorifying slant in postings, it actually likely boils down to something a little less sinister, I think, but I do admit to having communed with mother nature when this came: remember when Albert Bouchard's posts used to come in with a list of subscribers?? well now we have you posting almost like clockwork with absolutely NO content in your post, and then you are posting a second time so see, it's isn't quite so horrific and nobody has to die, yet, I don't think.... On 12/8/08, trev wrote: > > good point arjan, > > the post included far too many old irrelevant posts ( a ridiculous > amount)..and thanks for reminding us. > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Arjan Hulsebos" > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:21 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks > > Well, if you got nothing to say...... >> >> In the mean time, please check out >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style >> 2nd example. >> >> Gr, >> >> Arjan H >> >> >> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 18:16:17 -0000, trev wrote >> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mike coleman" >>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:47 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: (ON)Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks >>> >>> > last time I checked DVD's were videos unless you're compressing MP3's > >>> on >>> > them or something, of course I have NO clue what i just said but it > >>> feels >>> > right, and god Lemmy singing "Liar" in the morning sure is sweet and by >>> > the >>> > way Ron says you have to give me a free copy or he's going to take up >>> > issue >>> > with you over the name >>> > ha!! >>> > >>> > >>> > On 12/8/08, trev wrote: >>> >> >>> >> anyway, the PAL thing only applies to videos, not dvd's >>> >> doesn't it? >>> >> >>> >> you're trying to mislead me so i enter the gates of hell >>> >> >>> >> t >>> >> > From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 11:16:21 2008 From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:16:21 +0000 Subject: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK I've had a think and the set list at Hard Rock Hell (which still sounds better than Pontin's Prestatyn) might have been: Masters Of The Universe Time We Left Orgone Accumulator/You Know You're Only Dreaming/Orgone Accumulator Angels Of Death/Life Hassan-i-Sabbah with shortish bit in the middle Right to Decide Brainstorm Silver Machine I don't know if the order is exactly right but I don't think I've missed anything out. The one where they played two basses was in the middle, not the first three or last two. Edmund> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:06:39 -0500> From: cea at CARLAZ.COM> Subject: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs)> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > On 10 Dec 2008, at 06:18 , Edmund Clout wrote:> > American band, Clutch, who'd been in Glasgow the night before went > > on cold and were ace, reallly hard southern blues based rock.> > Clutch are veteran tourers and a great band!> > Cheers,> Carl> > --> Carl Edlund Anderson> http://www.carlaz.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Live Search presents Big Snap II - win John Lewis vouchers http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 11:53:15 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:53:15 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <000b01c94fe4$08fdac30$0202a8c0@Laptop> <8CB1DFC376F43BA-984-6DD@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> <17d80c610811261015s42b49847y554a5b4b128a5ada@mail.gmail.com> <20081209221757.GD25786@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: the playing and performance is a lot better than bajina(even without rehearsal) and the vibe is good, but as it's a vid, the sound quality (in camera) is not as good as the bajina german desk mix of course. it has some nice psychedelic video editing which does enhance the overall visual effect. it is not pro quality, but is well worth a tenner (free postage) if you're into the musos on it. it's the only gig that inner city hawks ever did or ever will so... i'm waiting for the final edit to arrive. when it does the real festival music ads will go up and the spamming will start he he )it's not really spamming, it's group emailing because i do religiously remove anyone who wants to be removed, so there...tryinf to make me feel guilty eh? BASH take that (i punch myself in the face) ooer. trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:17 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:17:19PM -0000, trev typed out: >> For instance, just imagine if there was a full-length video of the only >> gig >> that the legendary Inner City Hawks ever played, and it was really good, >> and it was about to be unleashed upon the Blessed Ones. > > I went back digging in the archives to try and find out why I > didn't make that gig, and what it had been like, and *no-one* seems to > have mentioned it. In fact the only thread developing from it seems to > be some Judge Trev character, selling videos of it... But seriously, how > does it compare to, for example, _Bajina_? And why, why haven't I bought > _Naked_ yet? That might be more of a question... Yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Dec 10 12:27:46 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:27:46 GMT Subject: Wikipedia censorship over album cover In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:29:20 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Dec 10 13:20:54 2008 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:20:54 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review In-Reply-To: <1LAQKs-0Dh91g0@fwd05.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Hi Bernhard, I wasn't at Exeter but yes, if it's the same as they did at Glasgow, then it is Fahrenheit 451 spoken by Dibs. I can't vouch for it being the whole thing because after I caught the opening line - "In Lexington they are going to burn..." I kinda drifted off... Alan bernhard.pospiech wrote: > Thanks very much for this interesting review Jill > > > Are you sure that they did FAHRENHEIT 451 ??? > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:19 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review > > ohmigod Exeter was a strange venue - it took an hour to find the place > (Tim's comment that someone was trying to keep it a secret seemed all too > true) and once through the door you came into a hall with a large bar and > seating on one side while the other side comprised a sort of hotel reception > area with a stage tucked away at the back - indeed as was pointed out to me > - the bar area was larger than the stage area! It is therefore a huge > tribute to the band and a credit to their professionalism, as well as the > quality of their playing and the strength of the set that despite this they > not only managed to fit everyone on stage, but had a full lightshow and > played a very creditable set - though it can't have been easy - the dancers > even had to perform on boxes laid out across the front of the stage! > > Set list was as Glasgow: Intro, Master of the Universe, Time We Left, > Lighthouse (I'm entirely in favour of someone helping Tim with the vocals on > this - it's a lovely track and works well with two vocalists), then an Alien > intro - , then Orgone Acumulator / Only Dreaming, > Whose Gonna Win The War (this is awesome > and has been given a strong contemporary relevance with the dancers > portraying soldiers - not dancing - just standing there with guns. The last > time I saw something similar was Marrillion doing "Forgotten Heroes" but let > us pass swiftly onwards! The audience reaction to this track is > interestingly varied - there was silence at Newcastle, I'm not sure people > quite knew what to make of it), swiftly followed by (and it's a very neatly > crafted seque) Angels of Death/Life (with firey images of skull heads and a > truly wonderful extended drum/choppy guitar/drum rhythm sequence - a > glorious sound) then Wraith, Utopia (excellent version - clear vocals - > images of the mindless masses on their way to work - > as-indeed-I-should-be-tomorrow-don't-want-to-think-about-it), Damnation > Alley, Sentinel - I like this, lyrical, calm and has the dancers/performers > as strangely stooped giant stilted creatures stalking among the band on > stage (though sadly they couldn't get on stage in Exeter) then Right to > Decide (with a 3rd verse I haven't sussed yet), Fahrenheit 451 (Dibs doing > an excellent job with the spoken verse), and Damnation Alley to end the set. > In Exeter the encore was limited (unsurprisingly) to Silver Machine but in > Newcastle the band started early so did an extended encore which included > (hooray - I don't care what anyone says about repetitiveness I just love > this!) Assault and Battery / Golden Void and Where Are They Now). Dave's > guitar really makes these tracks come alive and "sing" I want - perhaps "resonate" is better> but truly I could not have been > happier. Overall I strongly feel the strength/quality of the overall sound > is so much better with Tim and Niall contributing as well - you may not > always be aware of them individually but the extra dimension makes a > tremendous difference - at least it does when the sound mix doesn't deafen > you. > > Anyhow - that's it for my tour this winter. Thank you and congratulations > to everyone. Enjoy the rest of the tour! > jill > ============================================== > Jill Strobridge > ============================================== > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 10/12/2008 09:30 > > From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Dec 10 13:21:21 2008 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:21:21 +0000 Subject: HW : 70 new photos added In-Reply-To: <3311740477.19677210@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Cheers, thanks for saying so. Nice to be of assistance! Alan Steve Swann wrote: > By the way, I keep meaning to thank you for maintaining tangledwoof. That is just a freakin' awesome pics colllection - it's what I point people on other groups to when they ask what Hawkwind looks like in the 2000's.... > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Taylor > Date: Saturday, Dec 6, 2008 6:41 pm > Subject: HW : 70 new photos added > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Hi folks > > I've put a whole bunch of photos on www.tangledwoof.com, from the gig on > Thursday night in Glasgow. I sent another bunch to Steve at > starfarer.net so he will no doubt put these on his site sometime in the > next few days. > > Cheers > Alan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1841 - Release Date: 10/12/2008 09:30 > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 13:49:53 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:49:53 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Inner City Hawks In-Reply-To: <000b01c94fe4$08fdac30$0202a8c0@Laptop> <8CB1DFC376F43BA-984-6DD@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> <17d80c610811261015s42b49847y554a5b4b128a5ada@mail.gmail.com> <20081209221757.GD25786@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: release of "live at the standard" is now postponed 'til january because the mastered sound track won't sinch properly with the visuals...so when that's sorted it'll be available can anyone do that? no? ok trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:53 PM To: Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > the playing and performance is a lot better than bajina(even without > rehearsal) and the vibe is good, but as it's a vid, the sound quality (in > camera) is not as good as the bajina german desk mix of course. it has > some nice psychedelic video editing which does enhance the overall visual > effect. it is not pro quality, but is well worth a tenner (free postage) > if you're into the musos on it. it's the only gig that inner city hawks > ever did or ever will so... > > i'm waiting for the final edit to arrive. when it does the real festival > music ads will go up and the spamming will start he he )it's not really > spamming, it's group emailing because i do religiously remove anyone who > wants to be removed, so there...tryinf to make me feel guilty eh? BASH > take that (i punch myself in the face) ooer. > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jonathan Jarrett" > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:17 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers > >> >> I went back digging in the archives to try and find out why I >> didn't make that gig, and what it had been like, and *no-one* seems to >> have mentioned it. In fact the only thread developing from it seems to >> be some Judge Trev character, selling videos of it... But seriously, how >> does it compare to, for example, _Bajina_? And why, why haven't I bought >> _Naked_ yet? That might be more of a question... Yours, >> Jon >> >> -- >> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> > From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Dec 10 14:13:24 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:13:24 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review Message-ID: We asked Richard what the new tracks were when the band came up to the bar in Glasgow and he definitely said Fahrenheit 451 - so I'm sticking with that for now until I'm told otherwise. cheers! jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "bernhard.pospiech" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review > Thanks very much for this interesting review Jill > > > Are you sure that they did FAHRENHEIT 451 ??? > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:19 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review > > ohmigod Exeter was a strange venue - it took an hour to find the place > (Tim's comment that someone was trying to keep it a secret seemed all too > true) and once through the door you came into a hall with a large bar and > seating on one side while the other side comprised a sort of hotel > reception > area with a stage tucked away at the back - indeed as was pointed out to > me > - the bar area was larger than the stage area! It is therefore a huge > tribute to the band and a credit to their professionalism, as well as the > quality of their playing and the strength of the set that despite this > they > not only managed to fit everyone on stage, but had a full lightshow and > played a very creditable set - though it can't have been easy - the > dancers > even had to perform on boxes laid out across the front of the stage! > > Set list was as Glasgow: Intro, Master of the Universe, Time We Left, > Lighthouse (I'm entirely in favour of someone helping Tim with the vocals > on > this - it's a lovely track and works well with two vocalists), then an > Alien > intro - , then Orgone Acumulator / Only > Dreaming, > Whose Gonna Win The War (this is > awesome > and has been given a strong contemporary relevance with the dancers > portraying soldiers - not dancing - just standing there with guns. The > last > time I saw something similar was Marrillion doing "Forgotten Heroes" but > let > us pass swiftly onwards! The audience reaction to this track is > interestingly varied - there was silence at Newcastle, I'm not sure people > quite knew what to make of it), swiftly followed by (and it's a very > neatly > crafted seque) Angels of Death/Life (with firey images of skull heads and > a > truly wonderful extended drum/choppy guitar/drum rhythm sequence - a > glorious sound) then Wraith, Utopia (excellent version - clear vocals - > images of the mindless masses on their way to work - > as-indeed-I-should-be-tomorrow-don't-want-to-think-about-it), Damnation > Alley, Sentinel - I like this, lyrical, calm and has the > dancers/performers > as strangely stooped giant stilted creatures stalking among the band on > stage (though sadly they couldn't get on stage in Exeter) then Right to > Decide (with a 3rd verse I haven't sussed yet), Fahrenheit 451 (Dibs doing > an excellent job with the spoken verse), and Damnation Alley to end the > set. > In Exeter the encore was limited (unsurprisingly) to Silver Machine but in > Newcastle the band started early so did an extended encore which included > (hooray - I don't care what anyone says about repetitiveness I just love > this!) Assault and Battery / Golden Void and Where Are They Now). Dave's > guitar really makes these tracks come alive and "sing" word > I want - perhaps "resonate" is better> but truly I could not have been > happier. Overall I strongly feel the strength/quality of the overall > sound > is so much better with Tim and Niall contributing as well - you may not > always be aware of them individually but the extra dimension makes a > tremendous difference - at least it does when the sound mix doesn't deafen > you. > > Anyhow - that's it for my tour this winter. Thank you and > congratulations > to everyone. Enjoy the rest of the tour! > jill > ============================================== > Jill Strobridge > ============================================== > > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 14:36:28 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:36:28 -0800 Subject: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs) Message-ID: Even though I've tried and mostly failed to "get" Clutch's studio work, the one time I saw them live they really impressed me. Probably the most brutally tight live outfit I've ever seen. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 7:13 am Subject: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs) To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 10 Dec 2008, at 06:18 , Edmund Clout wrote: American band, Clutch, who'd been in Glasgow the night before went on cold and were ace, reallly hard southern blues based rock. Clutch are veteran tourers and a great band! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 14:40:10 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 11:40:10 -0800 Subject: Urban Gorilla Message-ID: I don't know the one actually - but now I have this pleasingly comic vision of you working as Bernhard P's wacky sidekick/procurer, for which I thank you. Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 9:22 am Subject: Re: Urban Gorilla To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Morning Steve, while it is true that I have NEVER been a cheapskate, and it still remains true today even though I am poor as weeds, a man named Alfred in Austria (I think) seems to be the reigning champ of hi-dollar spending now. he got my Urban Gorilla but I've had my revenge!!!!! we do expect the failed economy to produce many a vinyl delight, but I may have to ask my boss for finanical help he'd be German. you know the one. On 12/10/08, Steve Swann wrote: > Mike's album purchases are part of the government's 5 trillion dollar bailout of the Space Rock industry. > Steve > -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Friday, Dec 5, 2008 11:49 am Subject: Re: Urban Gorilla To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > there is no way anybody can beat my high bid not worried at all!!!! besides, jess is only a tape collector no worries mate, I will easily DESTROY THEM!!!! > On 12/5/08, Wilfried Schuesler wrote: > > Mike, > > to be honest on this 7": > > The seller has only zero points and Alfred and Jess/Canada are fighting over it. I think it will be better to let it go (though I do know I won't be able to stop you at all if you are willing). > > Wilfried From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Dec 10 14:53:05 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:53:05 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Then it must be F451 !!! Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jill Strobridge Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review We asked Richard what the new tracks were when the band came up to the bar in Glasgow and he definitely said Fahrenheit 451 - so I'm sticking with that for now until I'm told otherwise. cheers! jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "bernhard.pospiech" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review > Thanks very much for this interesting review Jill > > > Are you sure that they did FAHRENHEIT 451 ??? > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Jill Strobridge > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:19 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review > > ohmigod Exeter was a strange venue - it took an hour to find the place > (Tim's comment that someone was trying to keep it a secret seemed all > too > true) and once through the door you came into a hall with a large bar > and seating on one side while the other side comprised a sort of hotel > reception area with a stage tucked away at the back - indeed as was > pointed out to me > - the bar area was larger than the stage area! It is therefore a huge > tribute to the band and a credit to their professionalism, as well as > the quality of their playing and the strength of the set that despite > this they not only managed to fit everyone on stage, but had a full > lightshow and played a very creditable set - though it can't have been > easy - the dancers even had to perform on boxes laid out across the > front of the stage! > > Set list was as Glasgow: Intro, Master of the Universe, Time We Left, > Lighthouse (I'm entirely in favour of someone helping Tim with the > vocals on this - it's a lovely track and works well with two > vocalists), then an Alien intro - , then > Orgone Acumulator / Only Dreaming, > Whose Gonna Win The War (this is awesome and has been given a strong > contemporary relevance with the dancers portraying soldiers - not > dancing - just standing there with guns. The last time I saw > something similar was Marrillion doing "Forgotten Heroes" but let us > pass swiftly onwards! The audience reaction to this track is > interestingly varied - there was silence at Newcastle, I'm not sure > people quite knew what to make of it), swiftly followed by (and it's a > very neatly crafted seque) Angels of Death/Life (with firey images of > skull heads and a truly wonderful extended drum/choppy guitar/drum > rhythm sequence - a glorious sound) then Wraith, Utopia (excellent > version - clear vocals - images of the mindless masses on their way to > work - as-indeed-I-should-be-tomorrow-don't-want-to-think-about-it), > Damnation Alley, Sentinel - I like this, lyrical, calm and has the > dancers/performers as strangely stooped giant stilted creatures > stalking among the band on stage (though sadly they couldn't get on > stage in Exeter) then Right to Decide (with a 3rd verse I haven't > sussed yet), Fahrenheit 451 (Dibs doing an excellent job with the > spoken verse), and Damnation Alley to end the set. > In Exeter the encore was limited (unsurprisingly) to Silver Machine > but in Newcastle the band started early so did an extended encore > which included (hooray - I don't care what anyone says about > repetitiveness I just love > this!) Assault and Battery / Golden Void and Where Are They Now). > Dave's guitar really makes these tracks come alive and "sing" not the word I want - perhaps "resonate" is better> but truly I could > not have been happier. Overall I strongly feel the strength/quality > of the overall sound is so much better with Tim and Niall contributing > as well - you may not always be aware of them individually but the > extra dimension makes a tremendous difference - at least it does when > the sound mix doesn't deafen you. > > Anyhow - that's it for my tour this winter. Thank you and > congratulations > to everyone. Enjoy the rest of the tour! > jill > ============================================== > Jill Strobridge > ============================================== > > From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Dec 10 15:03:26 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:03:26 +0100 Subject: HW Rumor Message-ID: Hej Hope everyone is enjoying the UK tour.l Hope a few recordings pop up! I read a rumor that Nik will be puttin gon the complete Space Ritual 2LP in March 2009 at the Roundhouse in London in honor of Barney Bubbles 25th anniversary of his passing on. Rumor also said that all the original members who are still alive except Dave Brock would take part. Seems highly unlikely that Stacia or Lemmy will take part but you never know... Sure would be amazing to see if they could redo all the stage designs from the tour and even get magic Muscle to open the show like on the original tour. Doubt they would all trip acid like they used to before every gig.. My guess it will be Nik's band perfoming Space Ritual.. Anyone else heard anything about this? Scott ObCD Pilgrim Fathers (UK 2008) ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Dec 10 15:12:41 2008 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:12:41 EST Subject: Hawkwind Exeter - the foyer review Message-ID: Thanks Jill---wonderful review! Bill S **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 16:22:19 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:22:19 -0000 Subject: Urban Gorilla In-Reply-To: <3311740013.19630847@smtp.gmail.com> <17d80c610812100621v2ce9ef27o5db01d53ca2448b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Alfred is a High-Ranking Blessed One...watch it trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:21 PM To: Subject: Re: Urban Gorilla > Morning Steve, while it is true that I have NEVER been a cheapskate, and > it > still remains true today even though I am poor as weeds, a man named > Alfred > in Austria (I think) seems to be the reigning champ of hi-dollar spending > now. > he got my Urban Gorilla but I've had my revenge!!!!! > we do expect the failed economy to produce many a vinyl delight, but I may > have to ask my boss for finanical help > he'd be German. you know the one. > > > On 12/10/08, Steve Swann wrote: >> >> Mike's album purchases are part of the government's 5 trillion dollar >> bailout of the Space Rock industry. >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mike coleman >> > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 16:40:13 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:40:13 -0800 Subject: HW Rumor Message-ID: Well hell - if that rumor is true, I'll need a Brit volunteer to acquire tix for me... I feel a London trip coming on. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" Date: Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 3:05 pm Subject: HW Rumor To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Hej Hope everyone is enjoying the UK tour.l Hope a few recordings pop up! I read a rumor that Nik will be puttin gon the complete Space Ritual 2LP in March 2009 at the Roundhouse in London in honor of Barney Bubbles 25th anniversary of his passing on. Rumor also said that all the original members who are still alive except Dave Brock would take part. Seems highly unlikely that Stacia or Lemmy will take part but you never know... Sure would be amazing to see if they could redo all the stage designs from the tour and even get magic Muscle to open the show like on the original tour. Doubt they would all trip acid like they used to before every gig.. My guess it will be Nik's band perfoming Space Ritual.. Anyone else heard anything about this? Scott ObCD Pilgrim Fathers (UK 2008) ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 16:51:48 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:51:48 -0000 Subject: HW Rumor In-Reply-To: <3311772012.20873674@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes it's all true. I've written to John Curd to get on the Bill, doing my Bob Calvert tribute song Starfighter, because the glaring omission from the hawklords gig is of course Bob Calvert. Tell him to book me...everyone...right now... The whole list Now Now Now Now Judge Trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Swann" Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:40 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Rumor > Well hell - if that rumor is true, I'll need a Brit volunteer to acquire > tix for me... I feel a London trip coming on. :) > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" > Date: Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 3:05 pm > Subject: HW Rumor > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Hej > > Hope everyone is enjoying the UK tour.l Hope a few recordings pop up! I > read a rumor that Nik will be puttin gon the complete Space Ritual 2LP in > March 2009 at the Roundhouse in London in honor of Barney Bubbles 25th > anniversary of his passing on. Rumor also said that all the original > members who are still alive except Dave Brock would take part. Seems > highly unlikely that Stacia or Lemmy will take part but you never know... > Sure would be amazing to see if they could redo all the stage designs from > the tour and even get magic Muscle to open the show like on the original > tour. Doubt they would all trip acid like they used to before every gig.. > > My guess it will be Nik's band perfoming Space Ritual.. Anyone else heard > anything about this? > > Scott > > ObCD Pilgrim Fathers (UK 2008) > > ______________ > > Scott Heller > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) > stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by > law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, > copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained > herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary > information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this > e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 19:58:24 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:58:24 -0600 Subject: Urban Gorilla In-Reply-To: Message-ID: didn't touch the thing with a ten-foot pole how I got him I will never tell everthing's cool and casual Trev, and I paid a long overdue visit to the actual motorcycle club today and what they manufactured for me on-the-spot to you is a gasser!!! :-) by the way, dealing drugs was never alluring or cool enough for me to dabble in it much but if you NTSC a few a' them thingies I still like to pretend I'm Delta-Wave do it for free On 12/10/08, trev wrote: > > Alfred is a High-Ranking Blessed One...watch it > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "mike coleman" > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:21 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Urban Gorilla > > Morning Steve, while it is true that I have NEVER been a cheapskate, and it >> still remains true today even though I am poor as weeds, a man named >> Alfred >> in Austria (I think) seems to be the reigning champ of hi-dollar spending >> now. >> he got my Urban Gorilla but I've had my revenge!!!!! >> we do expect the failed economy to produce many a vinyl delight, but I may >> have to ask my boss for finanical help >> he'd be German. you know the one. >> >> >> On 12/10/08, Steve Swann wrote: >> >>> >>> Mike's album purchases are part of the government's 5 trillion dollar >>> bailout of the Space Rock industry. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mike coleman >>> >>> >> From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 10 20:17:17 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:17:17 -0000 Subject: Nik Turner/Judge Trev/Space Ritual/Atomgods Xmas offer Message-ID: Hi from Real Festival Music All Albums by: Inner City Unit Inner City Unit/Atomgods Judge Trev Mother of All Bands Space Ritual Nik Turner here: www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html Available post-free up 'til Xmas All UK orders received on or before 16th December will arrive in time for Xmas Offer is word-wide All major credit cards and pay pal accepted REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, Video Downloads, News, Healers From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 11 04:21:37 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:21:37 +0000 Subject: Reefer Madness (long version) Message-ID: Don't think I've seen this mentioned but the version that is on the new box set will NOT be on the ASAM reissue. This version is remaining exclusive to the box. If anyone is in London next Friday and going to Spitelfields record fair, a dealer at the last one had copies for ?12. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG Thu Dec 11 08:35:17 2008 From: ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG (Ian Jeffcock) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:35:17 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind: Official live releases (1971-2007) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice thread, I have most of these CDs and have been thinking for a while of putting them all on my MP3 player. So now I've started going thru and MP3-ing them all. So far I found that I am unbelieveably missing "Text Of Festival" on CD, I have it on LP but I guess I was just avoiding all those "Bring me the head..." CDs to the point I didn't even get text of festival. I've been trying to figure out the 1972/1973 list, I think one title slightly off and one missing: 28.09.1972 (BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert) 14.10.1972 (Space London 1972 / Space Rock From London) then we have the Empire Pool complete show, maybe its better than Bring Me The Head... 27.05.1973 (Empire Pool Wembley 1973) After this, it seems to get extremely complicated having to pull tracks from weird tapes, anthology and friends and relations to get the Hawklords / Sonic Assassins together and in the right chronological order, and its not easy to find the exact dates of those recordings, I looked at a few different places including wiki which seems to be good, but can't figure out the exact dates. Anyway not so important, probably best just to go with the running order as it is in the weird series. From ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG Thu Dec 11 08:47:52 2008 From: ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG (Ian Jeffcock) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:47:52 +0800 Subject: Hawklords - Rockfield Studios, 1979 - British Tribal Music question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now this is probably a daft question, but, does the explosion at the start of "British Tribal Music" really belong to this track? Are there any versions without it? All the versions I have start with this explosion which seems to belong to the end of "High Rise". If I get "Master Of The Universe" compilation which has "Born To Go" followed by "British Tribal Music", does that get rid of the explosion? BTW the hwcodex talks about the explosion but doesn't help much since some of the versions stated as 1 & not 1a have the explosion! Well, I did say it was a daft question. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 11 09:13:41 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:13:41 -0600 Subject: Hawklords - Rockfield Studios, 1979 - British Tribal Music question In-Reply-To: <200812111348.mBBDmGW1067505@www.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: wasn't that the one that is actually a piece of "oh my fingers they must ache"??? forgive me please if I'm already getting little undiagnosable strokes affecting memory... On 12/11/08, Ian Jeffcock wrote: > > Now this is probably a daft question, but, does the explosion at the start > of "British Tribal Music" > really belong to this track? Are there any versions without it? All the > versions I have start with > this explosion which seems to belong to the end of "High Rise". > > If I get "Master Of The Universe" compilation which has "Born To Go" > followed by "British Tribal Music", > does that get rid of the explosion? BTW the hwcodex talks about the > explosion but doesn't help much > since some of the versions stated as 1 & not 1a have the explosion! > > Well, I did say it was a daft question. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 11 12:46:20 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:46:20 -0600 Subject: (Off) Trev Message-ID: Dear Trev totally straight, I have considered my doses of 'lip" in your one patricular case to be all in acceptable stride to the one whom I've considered "made of steel" where forums are concerned..... and considered nothing negative let loose upon a group I am assuming, like myself, is here to enjoy our favorite diversions away from the rigors of daiy life, not bothered by this little thing nor that, etc. If I've overdone it anywhere I've got nothing left anyway also, I was offering to handle a few videos over here for free in case that wasn't clear mike From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Dec 11 17:10:58 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:10:58 -0500 Subject: NEW Michael Moorcock & The Deep Fix CD Message-ID: Just out on Noh Poetry Records.... Michael Moorcock & The Deep Fix - "The Entropy Tango & Gloriana Demo Sessions" 30 tracks recorded by Moorcock and Pete Pavli, recorded 1977-78. For more information go to www.nohpoetryrecords.com I'll have a track on the new Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio show, which should be online Sunday. Jerry From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Fri Dec 12 07:09:09 2008 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:09:09 EST Subject: Return to form Message-ID: Nottingham last night was awesome. Real return to form and concentrating on giving us some good ol space rock. New line up seems to work very well............much impressed. Dibsy seems to be settling, and Dave actually stood at the front !! Set list as previously mentioned more or less. Like the spoken version of 451 too. Whose idea is it to start gigs at 8pm tho ? Rock City never used to start before 9 and often as late as 10, hence missing the first 15 mins as a result of having "just one more" in the Tap 'n' Tumbler. Roll on Astoria.......... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 12 08:50:21 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:50:21 -0600 Subject: Return to form In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/12/08, Martin Hutchby wrote: > > Dave actually stood at > the front !! AWESOME!!!! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 12 09:21:22 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:21:22 -0600 Subject: HW Rumor In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922B0DE98C2@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: This surely must be becoming about the most painful thing in all of rock' n 'roll to have to look at OK, so Dave likes to allow a lot of personel flowing through the ranks, in a manner of speaking, and Nik SURELY is 100 percent founder HOWEVER if it were me now that the feeling is returning in my 2 most important guitar fingers, with only the stomach to lose, the "cousin-it" hair to grow and tolerate and the band to form, I'd personally do the Lemmy thing and maybe i will I'd be like "oh you liked that Space Ritual stuff eh??? wait till your head implodes with THIS!!!!!!" and besides, none of this will work without rock's _DEFINITIVE_ drummer Simon King (according to Wiki) Simon WHERE ARE YOU????? and teasing aside, if Judge Trev would simply stop losing hair over Nik and the Hawkwind thing, throw together a rocking 3 piece Atomgods, and they played the same night how much you wanna bet I'd be at THAT GIG! NO SHIT On 12/10/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > Hej > > Hope everyone is enjoying the UK tour.l Hope a few recordings pop up! I > read a rumor that Nik will be puttin gon the complete Space Ritual 2LP in > March 2009 at the Roundhouse in London in honor of Barney Bubbles 25th > anniversary of his passing on. Rumor also said that all the original members > who are still alive except Dave Brock would take part. Seems highly unlikely > that Stacia or Lemmy will take part but you never know... Sure would be > amazing to see if they could redo all the stage designs from the tour and > even get magic Muscle to open the show like on the original tour. Doubt they > would all trip acid like they used to before every gig.. > > My guess it will be Nik's band perfoming Space Ritual.. Anyone else heard > anything about this? > > Scott > > ObCD Pilgrim Fathers (UK 2008) > > ______________ > > Scott Heller > > > This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) > stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. > You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying > or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is > strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If > you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender > and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. > From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Fri Dec 12 09:51:38 2008 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:51:38 EST Subject: Return to form Message-ID: Yeah I know; to be fair he did have a chair on standby............................. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 12 10:04:28 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:04:28 -0600 Subject: Return to form In-Reply-To: Message-ID: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I almost tried to throw a Fripp joke in the first time whip out the old FX devices or buy them back from whomever got them, maybe break out the old cream guitar, stay standing and hit the stomp boxes hard!!!! no handkerchief needed in pocket at this time period, however, but he could pull that off too I suppose!! On 12/12/08, Martin Hutchby wrote: > > Yeah I know; to be fair he did have a chair on > standby............................. > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Dec 13 18:44:40 2008 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:44:40 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock & Space Does Not Care Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com DECEMBER 14, 2008: NEW RADIO SHOWS NOTE: I?m thinking about discontinuing the RealAudio and lo-bandwidth mp3 versions of the shows and only doing the high bandwidth mp3 version. Please email me at jkranitz at aural-innovations.com if this would impact your ability to listen to the shows. I've just uploaded new shows from Aura Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #208), and Space Does Not Care (show #8). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #208) Guild Navigators ? ?Intro/Andromeda Crashing? (from Jet Jaguar vs. The Guild Navigators: Deathrace Beyond the Stars) Jet Jaguar ? ?Blackhole Killer? (from Jet Jaguar vs. The Guild Navigators: Deathrace Beyond the Stars) Peter Lindahl ? ?Fr?n vast till ?st? (from Psychedelic Sweden) Quarkspace ? ?Third Score? (from Spacefolds 9) Bad Liquor Pond ? ?Village of Kings? (from Radiant Transmission) Antrilon ? ?Mind Erase? (from Mind Erase) Michael Moorcock & The Deep Fix ? ?The Birthplace Of Harlequin? (from The Entropy Tango & Gloriana Demo Sessions) Heavy Water Experiments ? ?Book Colored Blue? (from Heavy Water Experiments) The Orange Drop ? ?El Intro Del? (unreleased) Psychedelic Warlords ? ?Parabola Asteroider? (from Psychedelic Warlords) Klaus Schulze ? ?Solar Wind? (from Timewind) High Watt Electrocutions ? ?The Thief Steals in the Darkness (12:30am)? (from Night Songs) The Penetralia ? ?Battlestar F*cking Galactica? (from Pimalia sampler: Smatterings Volume One) Forms Of Things Unknown ? ?Interrupted by Interior Design Part Two? (from Pimalia sampler: Smatterings Volume One) Larry Marotta ? ?Anemic Cinema? (from Silent Film Soundtracks Volume One) Census of Hallucinations ? ?Spirit of the Cat? (from Opus 2) Priscilla Hernandez ? ?Nightmare? (from Ancient Shadows) Embyro ? ?Call? (from Steig Aus) Space Does Not Care (show #8) Chuck Rosenberg did a radio show dubbed "Space Does Not Care" from 1999-2003 at KUCR out of Riverside, CA, which streamed on-line for most of that time. The format of the new online version of Space Does Not Care is secured by Chuck under the umbrella of Psych/Space/Kraut/Electro/Indie/Folk/Noise-rock. LIARS - "Rose and Licorice" (from Split EP Atheists, Reconsider - ARRCO) ONEIDA - "Everyday Is a Child with Teeth" (from Atheists, Reconsider) ALIEN SEX FIEND - "Smells Like..." (from Too Much Acid?) OZRIC TENTACLES - "Even the Air Is Dreaming" (from V/A Travellers Aid Trust) FIRECLAN - "Electric Sunrise" (from Sunrise to Sunset - Noh Poetry) MELTING EUPHORIA - "Landships Awake" (from Inside the Gardens of the Mind - Cleopatra) FIVE WAY MIRROR - "The Question" (from Transcendence - Burnt Hair) MOGWAI - "Boring Machines Disturb Sleep" (from Happy Songs for Happy People) CIRCLE - "DNA" (from split LP Surface/Marble Zone 2- Metamorphos) VOCOKESH - "Vocokesh Theme Song" (from Through the Smoke - Strange Attractors Audio House) RESIDENTS - "Birthday Boy" (from Buster & Glenn) PERE UBU - "Heart of Darkness" (from Datapanik in the Year 0 - Geffen) OLD TIME RELIJUN - "The King of Lost Light " (from 2012 - K) F/i - "Psychological Warfare Testing" (from The Past Darkly/The Future Lightly - Lexicon Devil) AVEY TARE & KRIA BREKKAN - "Was Onaip" (from Pullhair Rubeye - Paw Tracks) TWIN ATLAS - "Don't Diss This Song" (from Inside the Skate Scandal - Twilight Furniture/North of January) http://Aural-Innovations.com From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Dec 14 10:12:19 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:12:19 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind: Official live releases (1971-2007) In-Reply-To: <200812111335.mBBDZUJb063786@www.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: Hi Ian >I've been trying to figure out the 1972/1973 list, I think one title slightly off and one missing: >28.09.1972 (BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert) >14.10.1972 (Space London 1972 / Space Rock From London) Both dates are identcal with the same show 28.09.72 was the day when HW played 14.10.72 was the day when this show was broadcasted >then we have the Empire Pool complete show, maybe its better than Bring Me The Head... >27.05.1973 (Empire Pool Wembley 1973) Emprire Pool and Yuri are 2 different names for the same show Cheers Bernhard From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Dec 14 11:41:28 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:28 +0000 Subject: Merchandise Message-ID: Anything new to be had on the merchandise stall this tour? Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Dec 14 13:13:32 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:13:32 -0600 Subject: HW Rumor In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812120621h1dcd8d27v7311223fa4eb23c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: just let us know that there is love for one another amongst the angels.... then, we can get on with the business of postponing world war 3 and imposed population control by showing that we are not afraid to think....... ...as well as possibly gaining another chance at establishing trade routes with more advanced beings I certainly do not wish to intefere with the alimighty this: $ If this is more fundrazing, hopefully all the cash goes into a heap for something a little less giggy, and not sucked away by one of Colin's ex-lovers or something (just imho) 1) my mother was taken away forever on the 12th 2) my mother died on the 12th 3) my only girlfriend went away on the 12th 4) the moon was closer to us than it has been in 15 years on the 12th bye ps-also IMHO, Bajina is mandatory psychedelic madness, so the video should be golden On 12/12/08, mike coleman wrote: > > This surely must be becoming about the most painful thing in all of rock' n > 'roll to have to look at > OK, so Dave likes to allow a lot of personel flowing through the ranks, in > a manner of speaking, and Nik SURELY is 100 percent founder > HOWEVER > if it were me now that the feeling is returning in my 2 most important > guitar fingers, with only the stomach to lose, the "cousin-it" hair to grow > and tolerate and the band to form, I'd personally do the Lemmy thing > and maybe i will > I'd be like "oh you liked that Space Ritual stuff eh??? wait till your head > implodes with THIS!!!!!!" > and besides, none of this will work without rock's _DEFINITIVE_ drummer > Simon King (according to Wiki) > Simon WHERE ARE YOU????? > and teasing aside, if Judge Trev would simply stop losing hair over Nik and > the Hawkwind thing, throw together a rocking 3 piece Atomgods, and they > played the same night > how much you wanna bet I'd be at THAT GIG! > NO SHIT > > > On 12/10/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >> >> Hej >> >> Hope everyone is enjoying the UK tour.l Hope a few recordings pop up! I >> read a rumor that Nik will be puttin gon the complete Space Ritual 2LP in >> March 2009 at the Roundhouse in London in honor of Barney Bubbles 25th >> anniversary of his passing on. Rumor also said that all the original members >> who are still alive except Dave Brock would take part. Seems highly unlikely >> that Stacia or Lemmy will take part but you never know... Sure would be >> amazing to see if they could redo all the stage designs from the tour and >> even get magic Muscle to open the show like on the original tour. Doubt they >> would all trip acid like they used to before every gig.. >> >> My guess it will be Nik's band perfoming Space Ritual.. Anyone else heard >> anything about this? >> >> Scott >> >> ObCD Pilgrim Fathers (UK 2008) >> >> ______________ >> >> Scott Heller >> >> >> This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) >> stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. >> You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying >> or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is >> strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If >> you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender >> and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. >> > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sun Dec 14 21:28:12 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:28:12 -0800 Subject: Fw: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind - Spirit Of The Age: An Anthology 1976-1984 Message-ID: ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Telstar To: Up-Tight at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 4:03:45 PM Subject: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind - Spirit Of The Age: An Anthology 1976-1984 "Or: Hawkwind, Dave Brock and his ever-shifting array of supporting characters, the not-so well-defined years. Most of the heads understand the parameters of the United Artists era between the late sixties and mid 70s; and many see the Charisma years that followed as some kind of high-water mark. But then . . . off we go through an increasingly bewildering array of releases on ever-smaller labels that delighted the hardcore but seldom offered any door for the casual fan to stroll through." http://www.bbc. co.uk/music/ release/6p9x/ Al __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Polls MARKETPLACE ________________________________ >From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent ActivityVisit Your Group Yahoo! Groups Everyday Wellness Zone Check out featured healthy living groups. All-Bran Day 10 Club on Yahoo! Groups Feel better with fiber. Group Charity Loans that change lives Kiva.org . __,_._,___ From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Mon Dec 15 02:47:38 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:47:38 +0100 Subject: HW Distant Horizons Message-ID: Hello I was just writing my reivew of the Atomhenge box sets and was thinking that there was a discussion and rumors and such that the version of Distant Horizons that was released was acutally not the final version. Doug Smith just put this one out but Jerry had a much better version with more layers, etc.. Can anyone confirm this? It would be great if this could be the one released by Cherry Red/Esoteric so we could finally hear the real record. I compared the tracks on the box set to the original CD and it is the same mix but it sounds much better in the remastered format than the original. Will we ever get to hear the final version of Distant Horizons? scott From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 15 07:36:27 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:36:27 -0800 Subject: Atomhenge for dummies Message-ID: Could someone in the know give me a rundown on this whole Atomhenge re-releases business? Is this a thorough re-working of the catalog? Steve From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Dec 15 07:46:34 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:46:34 +0000 Subject: Atomhenge for dummies In-Reply-To: <3312171389.31844224@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Its a full re-issue programme of everything from ASAM to Distant Horizons plus out-takes and entended editions (eg Hawklords Live will have the remainder of the set restored). --- On Mon, 12/15/08, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: Atomhenge for dummies To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 12:36 PM Could someone in the know give me a rundown on this whole Atomhenge re-releases business? Is this a thorough re-working of the catalog? Steve From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Dec 15 08:55:06 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:55:06 -0800 Subject: Atomhenge for dummies Message-ID: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/atomhenge/main.htm ________________________________ From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:36:27 AM Subject: Atomhenge for dummies Could someone in the know give me a rundown on this whole Atomhenge re-releases business? Is this a thorough re-working of the catalog? Steve From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 15 10:30:39 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:30:39 GMT Subject: HW Rumor In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:13:32 -0600 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 15 11:37:12 2008 From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:37:12 +0000 Subject: Merchandise & Prestatyn Set List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Better Selection than I've seen for a while. They had a few t-shirts including In search of space(which I got), Doremi shield, Take me to your leader(as modelled by D.Brock), A version based on the spaceritual cover I'd not seen before, and I think one other. They had two Xmas CDs, one from 2004 and another one (Black with Hawkwind in red computery writing I think.) I did see someone with the spacemelt DVD after the show, but hadn't noticed it on the stall (may have sold out). Also should Mr. Starfarer be listening: Re. Prestatyn setlist, After going to Manchester I can confirm Hassan-i Sabbah had the same middle bit at both gigs which I presume is the current arrangement of Space is their Palestine. I'm also as sure as I can be I got the set list about right apart from that. Can't shed any light on which number had doubled up Bass Guitars though, as I was bouncing too much to notice at Manchester! In general I think this is the best they've sounded since Alan left. I prefer the heavier sound they tend to have with two guitars (from what I gather) anyway, and the bass end of the sound seems much more sorted (i.e. louder) than before, and better deep/sub-bass synth sounds too. Is this Nialls influence I wonder? Also Mr. Brock seems to do more lead when there's another guitarist, do ya think? Big grin and praying for Spring mini-tour Ed> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:28 +0000> From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM> Subject: Merchandise> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > Anything new to be had on the merchandise stall this tour?> > Steve> > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight> http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree _________________________________________________________________ Get Windows Live Messenger on your Mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000001ukm/direct/01/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 15 11:45:39 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Already Dead) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:45:39 -0600 Subject: HW Rumor In-Reply-To: <200812151530.mBFFUdxX025410@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > Sorry to hear of your loss Mike. Please accept my condolences. > (the other) Mike Oh wow thanks Mike.....I only put my personal crud up to help divert a true case of "overlip" My sisters were always jealoius that I was adopted and they made sure my life was detroyed,,,,,,,,but I found life after death like Lemmy.....too bad I lack the good looks and talent anyway, what I was REALLY meaning before is, I haven't even got around to playing my Space Ritual stuff Nik was doing a decade-and-a-half ago, and I totally accept that USA gigs are likely gone and nonexistant (surelt Dallas ones anyway) but couildn't the old ritual get a facelift for the times so-to-speak, when uncle sam is far beyond neptune??? what' the matter with the first LP??? One glance up at my wall, daily, through the glass, there he is in full HiiWatt-Henge glory.....and Huw.....the 2, in the sun......how about founding "The Sunshine Special", and giving us the "Undersea Ritual"...link: http://ufoexperiences.blogspot.com/2006/12/ufos-undersea.html) or what about something like "The Space-Time, Zero Point Ritual"??? anyway, I just hope to GOD Nik and Dave have come to working agreements, I personally prefer not to hear the Space Ritual material too many times without Brock, but who knows, maybe he'll be there with Richard, etc. I hope the house is packed beyond capacity....I just want my holographic vinyl with some new breaking ground, and Mike you are the Mike, and everbody knows you're here..... From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Mon Dec 15 13:58:49 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:58:49 +0000 Subject: Merchandise & Prestatyn Set Lis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi did you buy the new Xmas CD? What's on it? Thanks Steve On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Edmund Clout wrote: > Better Selection than I've seen for a while. They had a few t-shirts > including In search of space(which I got), Doremi shield, Take me to your > leader(as modelled by D.Brock), A version based on the spaceritual cover I'd > not seen before, and I think one other. They had two Xmas CDs, one from 2004 > and another one (Black with Hawkwind in red computery writing I think.) I > did see someone with the spacemelt DVD after the show, but hadn't noticed it > on the stall (may have sold out). > > Also should Mr. Starfarer be listening: Re. Prestatyn setlist, After going > to Manchester I can confirm Hassan-i Sabbah had the same middle bit at both > gigs which I presume is the current arrangement of Space is their Palestine. > I'm also as sure as I can be I got the set list about right apart from that. > Can't shed any light on which number had doubled up Bass Guitars though, as > I was bouncing too much to notice at Manchester! > > In general I think this is the best they've sounded since Alan left. I > prefer the heavier sound they tend to have with two guitars (from what I > gather) anyway, and the bass end of the sound seems much more sorted (i.e. > louder) than before, and better deep/sub-bass synth sounds too. Is this > Nialls influence I wonder? Also Mr. Brock seems to do more lead when there's > another guitarist, do ya think? > > Big grin and praying for Spring mini-tour > Ed> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:41:28 +0000> From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM> > Subject: Merchandise> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > Anything new to > be had on the merchandise stall this tour?> > Steve> > -- > View Steve's > Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Windows Live Messenger on your Mobile > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000001ukm/direct/01/ -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 15 14:24:45 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:24:45 GMT Subject: Pub before Astoria? Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Dec 15 15:42:32 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:42:32 -0500 Subject: HW Distant Horizons In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922B14D97F8@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: Hi Scott, That would be great since that's a really fine album with a lot of depth, I hope there is more. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:48 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW Distant Horizons Hello I was just writing my reivew of the Atomhenge box sets and was thinking that there was a discussion and rumors and such that the version of Distant Horizons that was released was acutally not the final version. Doug Smith just put this one out but Jerry had a much better version with more layers, etc.. Can anyone confirm this? It would be great if this could be the one released by Cherry Red/Esoteric so we could finally hear the real record. I compared the tracks on the box set to the original CD and it is the same mix but it sounds much better in the remastered format than the original. Will we ever get to hear the final version of Distant Horizons? scott From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 15 16:13:31 2008 From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:13:31 +0000 Subject: Merchandise & Prestatyn Set Lis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unfortunately no, the gig was starting and I got a bit flustered and only got the older one. Although I do prefer to get stuff in chronological order. Ed I also apologise for the mess IE seems to make of included previous posts bit. I think it's wantonly ignoring the returns. I've added some extra as an experiment in improving legibility > > Hi did you buy the new Xmas CD? > > What's on it? > > Thanks Steve > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Edmund Clout wrote:> > > Better Selection than I've seen for a while. They had a few t-shirts> > including In search of space(which I got), Doremi shield, Take me to your> > leader(as modelled by D.Brock), A version based on the spaceritual cover I'd> > not seen before, and I think one other. They had two Xmas CDs, one from 2004> > and another one (Black with Hawkwind in red computery writing I think.) I> > did see someone with the spacemelt DVD after the show, but hadn't noticed it> > on the stall (may have sold out).> >> > Also should Mr. Starfarer be listening: Re. Prestatyn setlist, After going> > to Manchester I can confirm Hassan-i Sabbah had the same middle bit at both> > gigs which I presume is the current arrangement of Space is their Palestine.> > I'm also as sure as I can be I got the set list about right apart from that.> > Can't shed any light on which number had doubled up Bass Guitars though, as> > I was bouncing too much to notice at Manchester!> >> > In general I think this is the best they've sounded since Alan left. I> > prefer the heavier sound they tend to have with two guitars (from what I> > gather) anyway, and the bass end of the sound seems much more sorted (i.e.> > louder) than before, and better deep/sub-bass synth sounds too. Is this> > Nialls influence I wonder? Also Mr. Brock seems to do more lead when there's> > another guitarist, do ya think?> >> > Big grin and praying for Spring mini-tour> > Ed _________________________________________________________________ Are you a PC?? Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 16 07:34:44 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:34:44 -0800 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 Message-ID: So what facts do we have? I looked at the London Roundhouse web site and they have nothing even though they list gigs through late 2009. I Googled for it and only found hints and allegations so to speak. Has anybody got the facts about this thing? Trev, what do you know about it? Steve From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Dec 16 08:47:28 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:47:28 +0000 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <3312257685.34505956@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nik has told me that the venue and date are confirmed, a promoter is putting the line-up together and funding is in place.? I know that people have been lined up to do the lights and to record the event. --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:34 PM So what facts do we have? I looked at the London Roundhouse web site and they have nothing even though they list gigs through late 2009. I Googled for it and only found hints and allegations so to speak. Has anybody got the facts about this thing? Trev, what do you know about it? Steve From ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG Tue Dec 16 09:34:08 2008 From: ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG (Ian Jeffcock) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:34:08 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind: Official live releases (1971-2007) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Bernhard, Thanks for the clarification on those titles, I hadn't realized that all 3 of these CDs are effectively the same: http://home.clara.net/adawson/spaclond.html (Space London 1972) http://home.clara.net/adawson/spacrock.html (Space Rock From London) http://home.clara.net/adawson/bbc-rad1.html (BBC Radio 1 live in Concert) I'd had the Windsong edition of the CD long back, and then I guess I'd fallen into the trap of thinking that one of the other CDs was something different and bought it just incase. Now for that Bring Me The Head show, I think this one would be the best version since its the complete 78 min show: http://www.starfarer.net/emprpool.html But as you pointed out, they are both from the same gig. Now what would be really awesome would be to match up all the officially released live material against the gig list on Starfarer's website. For now I'm still completing my ultimate Hawkwind live MP3 playlist into my panasonic SD player so I can listen to all this stuff on my commute to work, but I've still a way to go since I only got to Hawklords live so far. Cheers, Ian. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 16 09:56:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:56:08 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind: Official live releases (1971-2007) In-Reply-To: <200812161434.mBGEYOrL007950@www.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: On 12/16/08, Ian Jeffcock wrote: > > Hi Bernhard, > Thanks for the clarification on those titles, I hadn't realized that all 3 > of these CDs are effectively the same: > http://home.clara.net/adawson/spaclond.html (Space London 1972) > http://home.clara.net/adawson/spacrock.html (Space Rock From London) > http://home.clara.net/adawson/bbc-rad1.html (BBC Radio 1 live in Concert) > I'd had the Windsong edition of the CD long back, and then I guess I'd > fallen into the trap of thinking > that one of the other CDs was something different and bought it just > incase. > > *The above are not all the same, the official Windsong edition has > problems with "muddy sound" at least in places, but curiously if I remember > correct, has a few more minutes of Brainstorm??? The other 2 are bootlegs > from the actual transcription vinyl and have always been considered more > desireable. however, I believe one lacks the intro and the other lacks the > outro but I only have the "Space London" left so I am not 100 percent > positive on this* mike From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 16 10:25:33 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:25:33 -0800 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 Message-ID: Thanks Colin! What date though? All I've heard is March 2009. Also, could any of you London-savvy folks tell me a good place to stay near the Roundhouse? Steve -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen Date: Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 8:50 am Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Nik has told me that the venue and date are confirmed, a promoter is putting the line-up together and funding is in place.? I know that people have been lined up to do the lights and to record the event. --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:34 PM So what facts do we have? I looked at the London Roundhouse web site and they have nothing even though they list gigs through late 2009. I Googled for it and only found hints and allegations so to speak. Has anybody got the facts about this thing? Trev, what do you know about it? Steve From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Dec 16 10:51:11 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:51:11 +0000 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <3312267932.34965645@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: March 8th. --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 3:25 PM Thanks Colin! What date though? All I've heard is March 2009. Also, could any of you London-savvy folks tell me a good place to stay near the Roundhouse? Steve -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen Date: Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 8:50 am Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Nik has told me that the venue and date are confirmed, a promoter is putting the line-up together and funding is in place.? I know that people have been lined up to do the lights and to record the event. --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:34 PM So what facts do we have? I looked at the London Roundhouse web site and they have nothing even though they list gigs through late 2009. I Googled for it and only found hints and allegations so to speak. Has anybody got the facts about this thing? Trev, what do you know about it? Steve From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Dec 16 15:45:09 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:45:09 -0000 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <369244.61943.qm@web23204.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:47 PM To: Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 > Nik has told me that the venue and date are confirmed, a promoter is > putting the line-up together and funding is in place. I know that people > have been lined up to do the lights and to record the event. > > --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > From: Steve Swann > Subject: Space Ritual 2009 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:34 PM > > So what facts do we have? I looked at the London Roundhouse web site and > they > have nothing even though they list gigs through late 2009. I Googled for > it and > only found hints and allegations so to speak. Has anybody got the facts > about > this thing? > > Trev, what do you know about it? > > Steve > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 16 18:05:42 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:05:42 -0800 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 Message-ID: Trev, either my mail reader is screwing up, or your msg was empty. Curious to know if you have any inside info on it.... Steve -----Original Message----- From: trev Date: Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 3:47 pm Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Nik has told me that the venue and date are confirmed, a promoter is putting the line-up together and funding is in place. I know that people have been lined up to do the lights and to record the event. > --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: > From: Steve Swann Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:34 PM > So what facts do we have? I looked at the London Roundhouse web site and they have nothing even though they list gigs through late 2009. I Googled for it and only found hints and allegations so to speak. Has anybody got the facts about this thing? > Trev, what do you know about it? > Steve Re: Space Ritual 2009trev Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 16 18:12:01 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:12:01 -0800 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 Message-ID: Thanks again Colin! Steve -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen Date: Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 10:53 am Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET March 8th. --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 3:25 PM Thanks Colin! What date though? All I've heard is March 2009. Also, could any of you London-savvy folks tell me a good place to stay near the Roundhouse? Steve -----Original Message----- From: Colin Allen Date: Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 8:50 am Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Nik has told me that the venue and date are confirmed, a promoter is putting the line-up together and funding is in place.? I know that people have been lined up to do the lights and to record the event. --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: From: Steve Swann Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:34 PM So what facts do we have? I looked at the London Roundhouse web site and they have nothing even though they list gigs through late 2009. I Googled for it and only found hints and allegations so to speak. Has anybody got the facts about this thing? Trev, what do you know about it? Steve From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Dec 16 18:17:38 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:17:38 -0500 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <3312295541.35986917@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, I got about ten copies of your message Trev's, and everyone else's in the past 5 days. I hate computers, sometimes. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Steve Swann Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 6:06 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 Trev, either my mail reader is screwing up, or your msg was empty. Curious to know if you have any inside info on it.... Steve -----Original Message----- From: trev Date: Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 3:47 pm Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Nik has told me that the venue and date are confirmed, a promoter is putting the line-up together and funding is in place. I know that people have been lined up to do the lights and to record the event. > --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Steve Swann wrote: > From: Steve Swann Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 12:34 PM > So what facts do we have? I looked at the London Roundhouse web site and they have nothing even though they list gigs through late 2009. I Googled for it and only found hints and allegations so to speak. Has anybody got the facts about this thing? > Trev, what do you know about it? > Steve Re: Space Ritual 2009trev Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 17 04:36:59 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:36:59 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind V Survivors (and any TV show) Message-ID: No Contest for me - Hawkwind every time That is what videos / PVR's / recordable DVD's / BBC I-player are for. You all missed a great gig last night at the Astoria - best for ages in my opinion (and yes you are entitled to yours) Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From steve.bishop at DB.COM Wed Dec 17 04:43:58 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:43:58 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind V Survivors (and any TV show) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yup, agree, it was superb, Brocky's playing was excellent, would have liked bit more volume from Niall tho ................ Tim Blake was having a ball too ! --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK Wed Dec 17 09:01:43 2008 From: imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK (Jason Gool) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:01:43 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind V Survivors (and any TV show) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And me! It was the first time I'd seen them with Dibbs and it was the best I've seen them in a long time. I don't think I've ever seem Tim B so animated as he was last night. Jas > Yup, agree, it was superb, Brocky's playing was excellent, would have liked > bit more volume from Niall tho ................ Tim Blake was having a ball > too ! > > --- > > This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are > not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please > notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized > copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly > forbidden. > > Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional > EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Wed Dec 17 09:42:56 2008 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:42:56 EST Subject: Return to form 2................. Message-ID: Just recovering from last nights AWESOME show at the Astoria..............First class, better than I could have hoped. Just watched Knights of Space again to confirm how much better it was than last year. Big, full sound, the second guitar making all the difference, back to the good old days of space ROCK. General consensus seems to be best gig for a long time and I heartily agree..................... This crew seems to be gelling better and better. Long may it continue Phew........... From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Dec 17 10:52:57 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:52:57 +0000 Subject: FW: Stories, Utopia, Strawbs & Nazz w/Patti Rothberg- Cutting Room -New Year's nite In-Reply-To: <1284694596.22131461229524881706.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Message-ID: This is where I'll probably be on New Years''...Come on, come all!!! Mike Burro http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 www.stewkey.com http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkey Moogy Klingman presents A New Year's Nite Bash Bash with some of rock's legendary dinosaur bands and an a legendary rock diva !! Thursday nite, Jan. 1st, 7:30 pm at the Cutting Room, 19 w. 24th st Moogy Klingman's Utopia w/Jim Satin & Even Steven Levee They'll will be doing "Utopia theme" & Moogy's "You gotta have Friends" Ian Lloyd's Stories performing his hit singles "Brother Louie" and "Mamie Blue" Stewkey of Nazz performing his hits, "Open My Eyes" & "Hello, It's Me" John Ford of the Strawbs performing the Strawbs hits, "Heavy Disguise" & "Part of the Union" P atti Rothberg performing "inside" from her legendary 1996 album, "between the 1 & the 9" The Cutting Room - 19 w. 24th st. bet. 5th & 6th ave. - in Manhattan, www.thecuttingroomnyc.com $10 food or drink minimum, $15 cover --- $10 cover per person for you & 3 with this flyer (print it out) reservation s - v.i.p. list- moogyking at aol.com or 212 724 0242 For more info - www.moogymusic.com Below (left to right) - Stewkey, Moogy Klingman and I an Lloyd, Stewkey, Moogy and Ian Lloyd have been rocking America for decades. On Thursday nite, Jan. 1st at the Cutting Room in NYC, t here is going to be a big rockin' nite. Moogy Klingman will be there doing the Utopia theme(he was a founding member of the band). He'll do the classic song he co-wrote w/Buzzy Linhart for Bette Midler, "You gotta have Friends". Moogy Klingman & Ian Lloyd dueting at a recent show Ian Lloyd and Stories had at least 3 top twenty hits including the #1 "Brother Louie" and we'll be playing them. And coming all the way from Philidelphia, Stewkey - the lead singer of The Nazz, which was Todd Rundgren first band. The Nazz had hits with "Hello, It's Me" and "Open My Eyes". Stewkey was the lead singer on those songs and the Nazz's three albums for Atlantic. To dd still sings both hits, but Stewkey sang them first. John Ford of the Strawbs (bassist, singer &songwriter) will be doing songs from his new album and some of the big Strawbs hits! patti rothberg Patti Rothberg - a legendary rocker, who's 1996 album, "Between the 1 & the 9" sold almost a half million albums. She'll be performing songs including her hit, "Inside" at the show. We're gonna party hardy, so don't be tardy!! - Moogy check out these websites www.moogymusic.com www.pattirothberg.com www.machinedreamrecords.com/ ian lloyd www.stewkey.com www.myspace.com/johnfordofthestrawbs ___________________________________ Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. _________________________________________________________________ You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 17 11:21:51 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:21:51 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Christmas CD Message-ID: BTW there is no 2nd christmas CD. The 2nd CD (and one I did not have) is the sampler mentioned a couple of years ago I think with tracks from Bedouin / Brock / Langton and Blake. No need to panic then. Oh for a -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 17 11:26:58 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:26:58 +0000 Subject: Fwd: Hawkwind Christmas CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oops hit send before I finished - was going to say Oh for a Hawkwind version of I'm a fairy on top of the Christmas tree! Can anyone come up with a more ridiculous Christmas cover song than that! Also anyone familiar with Bob Rivers and his twisted tunes (a bit like the Barron Knights). (search Bob Rivers Show and listen to I am Santa Clause (Iron Man parody) or Hey hey you get off of my roof) What Hawkwind song could we twist the lyrics of to come up with a Hawkwind Christmas classic? any budding lyricist out there? Steve ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steve Freight Date: Dec 17, 2008 4:21 PM Subject: Hawkwind Christmas CD To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com, BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List < BOC-L at listserv.ispnetinc.net> BTW there is no 2nd christmas CD. The 2nd CD (and one I did not have) is the sampler mentioned a couple of years ago I think with tracks from Bedouin / Brock / Langton and Blake. No need to panic then. Oh for a -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 17 12:27:17 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:27:17 -0800 Subject: London accomodations Message-ID: Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... Steve From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Dec 17 12:44:41 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:44:41 -0800 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 Message-ID: Would Lemmy participate? Is he in the Brock or Turner camp? Someone mentioned Simon King returning. That would be very cool. Of course living in the Unemployed States of America I will have to read the kind list members' reports. Gary? ________________________________ From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:27:17 AM Subject: London accomodations Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... Steve From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Dec 17 14:19:53 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:19:53 -0500 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <260300.35979.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gary, I too am a member of the Unemployed States Of America , and I too appreciate fans from across the pond keeping us in tune with what's happening over there. Peace, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:45 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Space Ritual 2009 Would Lemmy participate? Is he in the Brock or Turner camp? Someone mentioned Simon King returning. That would be very cool. Of course living in the Unemployed States of America I will have to read the kind list members' reports. Gary? ________________________________ From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:27:17 AM Subject: London accomodations Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... Steve From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 17 14:58:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:58:08 -0600 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lemmy won't be there, not if Nik is heading the thing next, I popped in a copy of Sonic Attack 2001 yesterday, and it was having problems in my new player, then another copy, same thing which were left over stock, and now I am playing my personal copy which always worked hmmm (this seems to be OK) the sound on this CD is awesome.....recommended to anybody lacking it On 12/17/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Gary, I too am a member of the Unemployed States Of America , and I too > appreciate fans from across the pond keeping us in tune with what's > happening over there. > > Peace, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of gary shindler > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:45 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Space Ritual 2009 > > > Would Lemmy participate? Is he in the Brock or Turner camp? > Someone mentioned Simon King returning. That would be very cool. Of course > living in the Unemployed States of America I will have to read the kind > list > members' reports. > Gary > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steve Swann > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:27:17 AM > Subject: London accomodations > > Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? > > Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just > waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... > > Steve > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Dec 17 15:17:49 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:17:49 -0800 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 Message-ID: Mary and others, I wasn't saying I was unemployed I was just ranting about the state of the economy. I guess the economy's in the $&#)(&$)er worldwide so... Gary On 12/17/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Gary, I too am a member of the Unemployed States Of America , and I too > appreciate fans from across the pond keeping us in tune with what's > happening over there. > > Peace, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of gary shindler > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:45 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Space Ritual 2009 > > > Would Lemmy participate? Is he in the Brock or Turner camp? > Someone mentioned Simon King returning. That would be very cool. Of course > living in the Unemployed States of America I will have to read the kind > list > members' reports. > Gary > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steve Swann > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:27:17 AM > Subject: London accomodations > > Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? > > Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just > waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... > > Steve > From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Dec 17 15:20:23 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:20:23 +0000 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <260300.35979.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't think that Lemmy is in either Dave's or Nik's camp; the only camp that he is in is Lemmy's. --- On Wed, 17/12/08, gary shindler wrote: From: gary shindler Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 5:44 PM Would Lemmy participate? Is he in the Brock or Turner camp? Someone mentioned Simon King returning. That would be very cool. Of course living in the Unemployed States of America I will have to read the kind list members' reports. Gary? ________________________________ From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:27:17 AM Subject: London accomodations Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... Steve From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Dec 17 15:29:11 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:29:11 -0800 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 Message-ID: Yeah, I doubt he feels too much obligation to either camp but the Space Ritual tour was pumped by him and Simon. ? ________________________________ From: Colin Allen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:20:23 PM Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 I don't think that Lemmy is in either Dave's or Nik's camp; the only camp that he is in is Lemmy's. --- On Wed, 17/12/08, gary shindler wrote: From: gary shindler Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 5:44 PM Would Lemmy participate? Is he in the Brock or Turner camp? Someone mentioned Simon King returning. That would be very cool. Of course living in the Unemployed States of America I will have to read the kind list members' reports. Gary? ________________________________ From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:27:17 AM Subject: London accomodations Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... Steve From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Dec 17 16:04:41 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:04:41 -0500 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <191544.4052.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 17 Dec 2008, at 15:20 , Colin Allen wrote: > I don't think that Lemmy is in either Dave's or Nik's camp; the > only camp that he is in is Lemmy's. And I don't think Lemmy thought the whole Hawkestra thing a few years back was such a good experience that he'd be too keen to jump into another similar venture! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 17 16:46:35 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:46:35 -0600 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <66CA9B81-6845-49B4-811F-6050AE14EE1B@carlaz.com> Message-ID: very true, and I was going to mention that. Who knows, after his VH-1 fun at Nik and the whole moat ordeal...... I can say that when a friend brought up Nik in the past, Lemmy shut him down in an instant....maybe Nik told him he should stop taking speed.... but enough a my yakin'..... On 12/17/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 17 Dec 2008, at 15:20 , Colin Allen wrote: > >> I don't think that Lemmy is in either Dave's or Nik's camp; the only camp >> that he is in is Lemmy's. >> > > > And I don't think Lemmy thought the whole Hawkestra thing a few years back > was such a good experience that he'd be too keen to jump into another > similar venture! > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 17 16:49:01 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:49:01 +0000 Subject: Return to form 2................. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And I have just finished watching Survivors on TV - no contest as I thought - Hawkwind win hands down. Steve On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Martin Hutchby wrote: > Just recovering from last nights AWESOME show at the > Astoria..............First class, better than I could have hoped. Just > watched Knights of Space > again to confirm how much better it was than last year. > Big, full sound, the second guitar making all the difference, back to the > good old days of space ROCK. > General consensus seems to be best gig for a long time and I heartily > agree..................... > This crew seems to be gelling better and better. > Long may it continue > Phew........... > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 17 17:04:15 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:04:15 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Adrian Wagner Message-ID: has anybody out there got the "Electronic Light Orchestra" LP or the music? I lost this LP and I need the music to keep the shadow breathing at my side passified I am willing to trade actual cd's for a CDR, etc mike From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Dec 17 22:48:12 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:48:12 -0500 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <191544.4052.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think you're right. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Colin Allen Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:20 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 I don't think that Lemmy is in either Dave's or Nik's camp; the only camp that he is in is Lemmy's. --- On Wed, 17/12/08, gary shindler wrote: From: gary shindler Subject: Space Ritual 2009 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 5:44 PM Would Lemmy participate? Is he in the Brock or Turner camp? Someone mentioned Simon King returning. That would be very cool. Of course living in the Unemployed States of America I will have to read the kind list members' reports. Gary ________________________________ From: Steve Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:27:17 AM Subject: London accomodations Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... Steve From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Dec 17 22:53:47 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:53:47 -0500 Subject: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <713978.54335.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I hope that means you aren't unemployed, that's good. I hope things stay that way for as long as you need work. Automation is causing many to lose jobs, among many other reasons. Hopefully the new administration will be able to restore the economy but it's going to take 4 years till we even start to feel the changes, (in my uninformed economic opinion). I hate politics, whether it be in government, or Hawkwind, so I'll say no more on all this. I do appreciate the musical energy that both Dave and Nik have shared with us through the years, along with all other Hawks. Best wishes, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:18 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Space Ritual 2009 Mary and others, I wasn't saying I was unemployed I was just ranting about the state of the economy. I guess the economy's in the $&#)(&$)er worldwide so... Gary On 12/17/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Gary, I too am a member of the Unemployed States Of America , and I too > appreciate fans from across the pond keeping us in tune with what's > happening over there. > > Peace, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of gary shindler > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:45 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Space Ritual 2009 > > > Would Lemmy participate? Is he in the Brock or Turner camp? > Someone mentioned Simon King returning. That would be very cool. Of course > living in the Unemployed States of America I will have to read the kind > list > members' reports. > Gary > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steve Swann > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:27:17 AM > Subject: London accomodations > > Where's a good place to stay, convenient to the Roundhouse? > > Right I'm about 75% sure I'll be attending Space Ritual 2009 - I'm just > waiting to hear more details as the show shapes up.... > > Steve > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Dec 18 04:51:23 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:51:23 +0000 Subject: HW: Return Of The Legendary Space Rangers In-Reply-To: <629094.81065.qm@web26905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 03:22:54PM +0000, Ian Abrahams typed out: > But the CDs aren't being reissued chronologically so its not a case of > the Charisma ones arriving and then everything tailing off. I mean, > Esoteric have done a comprehensive Man reissue over the last 18 months > so I don't really see a problem with a Hawkwind programme over the > same timescale... even in these troubled times. Dear Ian, the latter point's a reassuring one, certainly. As to the former, I didn't mean to imply that that was how I saw the program running; it's just that it's the Charisma ones I don't have CDs of, ASAM excepted, so those are the ones I'm most interested in. Everything else has been on issue in the UK during my fandom... I'll still be faintly surprised when some discs actually emerge, but that's because I'm a cynic, or possibly, a devoted believer in Hawkwind's ability to shoot themselves in the foot with record deals. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 18 04:51:46 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:51:46 +0000 Subject: Off Topic - Merry Christmas - I think - was Hawkwind CD Message-ID: If anyone was offended by Mary's mail (and I wasn't) here is a PC greeting for all. And a Politically Correct Compliments of the Season to You, Please accept without obligation, express or implied, these best wishes for an environmentally safe, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive and gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday as practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice (but with respect for the religious or secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or for their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all) and further for a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated onset of the generally accepted calendar year including, but not limited to, the Christian calendar, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures). The preceding wishes are extended without regard to the race, creed, age, physical ability, religious faith or lack thereof, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishee(s). This message may not be copied without the express permission of the person I stole it from. Without prejudice -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu Dec 18 05:55:58 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:55:58 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual Message-ID: Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Dec 18 07:14:18 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:14:18 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E922B1578A48@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Dec 18 07:31:41 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:31:41 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <953920.51767.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Dec 18 07:34:37 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:34:37 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <953920.51767.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I believe that others are also being invited.? Based on the performance at Herne Bay, I suspect that this will be worth seeing and I am more than happy to pay to see something as enjoyable as that event was. --- On Thu, 18/12/08, Ian Abrahams wrote: From: Ian Abrahams Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:14 PM I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Dec 18 07:37:09 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:37:09 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDI1z-1FaGXI0@fwd09.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Dec 18 07:48:00 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:48:00 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDI1z-1FaGXI0@fwd09.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Bernhard, ? Honestly, yours is amongst the *most* respected opinions on this forum... but what you've said here is so wrong my friend. ? Herne Bay was just wonderful, well appreciated by the audience (including people I'd brought along that had never had any HW related exposure before), Nik's playing was terrific. ? Yes, Jerry was indeed 'Man of the Match' as I said on my blog about the event, but how anyone can dismiss the playing of Adrian Shaw, Alan Davey, Steve Swindells and the rest is beyond my understanding... and Ron's delivery on High Rise was just *immense*. ? Sorry, Bernhard, I guess you've heard a bootleg... they only tell a bit of the story and they never replace being there and the reaction on the night was of real pleasure from the audience... ? Roll on the Roundhouse... Ian --- On Thu, 12/18/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Dec 18 08:06:34 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:06:34 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <503492.41791.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Colin >Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? No, but all I have here is an audience recording from this show. I know that just a recording is not the same like beeing there. But it is a good chance only to focus on the audio part and not be affected by the visuals I also know that a COMPLETE gig/show is the video AND the audio part. I am talking about the AUDIO part here A fine selection of tracks but they have played not together but against each other Have listened a couple of times to this show. As I mentioned before the best musician on stage was Jerry Again I am very sorry to be so negative. Most of the musicians from this show are good musiscians and great people. But they performed on this day a crap gig. Perhaps they did not have the time to reherse. Who knows ? My very private oppinion is that Nik Turner is the problem. Listening very carefully to this show you can hear that everytime when NT is taking action the quality of the performance goes down. Not only at the HB show but also during most of the other SR shows they did over the last couple of years. Lets hope that SR2009 will be better than Herne Bay Bernhard --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Dec 18 08:12:51 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:12:51 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <43460.93045.qm@web26902.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Ian Thank you for your kind words. As I wrote to Colin I only have a good audience recording here. But I am sure that I can hear every instrument that was played. And I heard how wrong they were played. I know that just listening to an audio tape is not comparable to a LIVE event. Watching all these wonderful musicians must be awesome But it is a psychological point. Listenling to a show over the headphones reveals all the musical problems which were hidden by the optical effects and the "feeling" of an event I am not against this SR2009 project But it has to be better that HB2008. And I must again admit that in my eyes (and ears) Nik Turner is the main problem I am sorry to be so negative Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:48 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, yours is amongst the *most* respected opinions on this forum... but what you've said here is so wrong my friend. ? Herne Bay was just wonderful, well appreciated by the audience (including people I'd brought along that had never had any HW related exposure before), Nik's playing was terrific. ? Yes, Jerry was indeed 'Man of the Match' as I said on my blog about the event, but how anyone can dismiss the playing of Adrian Shaw, Alan Davey, Steve Swindells and the rest is beyond my understanding... and Ron's delivery on High Rise was just *immense*. ? Sorry, Bernhard, I guess you've heard a bootleg... they only tell a bit of the story and they never replace being there and the reaction on the night was of real pleasure from the audience... ? Roll on the Roundhouse... Ian --- On Thu, 12/18/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Dec 18 08:20:43 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:20:43 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDIfp-0nKczo0@fwd08.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: I understand what you're saying, Bernhard, but the essence of a gig is in being there and experiencing the live performance not in picking over the result out of context. ? You are right, it was unrehearsed... could have been awful because of it, but it just wasn't... it was absolutely great. ? And I could agree with you about Nik if this was a discussion about 82/83/84 but I can't agree about Herne Bay or about Space Ritual in general because he plays well and commands the stage with charisma... and can get all these great ex-Hawkwind musicians to perform with him so every gig is a real event. ? Ian --- On Thu, 12/18/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 1:12 PM Hello Ian Thank you for your kind words. As I wrote to Colin I only have a good audience recording here. But I am sure that I can hear every instrument that was played. And I heard how wrong they were played. I know that just listening to an audio tape is not comparable to a LIVE event. Watching all these wonderful musicians must be awesome But it is a psychological point. Listenling to a show over the headphones reveals all the musical problems which were hidden by the optical effects and the "feeling" of an event I am not against this SR2009 project But it has to be better that HB2008. And I must again admit that in my eyes (and ears) Nik Turner is the main problem I am sorry to be so negative Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:48 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, yours is amongst the *most* respected opinions on this forum... but what you've said here is so wrong my friend. ? Herne Bay was just wonderful, well appreciated by the audience (including people I'd brought along that had never had any HW related exposure before), Nik's playing was terrific. ? Yes, Jerry was indeed 'Man of the Match' as I said on my blog about the event, but how anyone can dismiss the playing of Adrian Shaw, Alan Davey, Steve Swindells and the rest is beyond my understanding... and Ron's delivery on High Rise was just *immense*. ? Sorry, Bernhard, I guess you've heard a bootleg... they only tell a bit of the story and they never replace being there and the reaction on the night was of real pleasure from the audience... ? Roll on the Roundhouse... Ian --- On Thu, 12/18/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Dec 18 08:39:16 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:39:16 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <56900.57980.qm@web26906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi again Ian Lets see what will happen during the SR2009 performance. Of course I wish all musicians (and the folks infront of the stage ) a great show. I am sure they can make it ! They are all great musicians and as I mentioned before great people !!! And lets hope NT will focus more into "playing music" than into performing an "expensive clown" Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 2:21 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I understand what you're saying, Bernhard, but the essence of a gig is in being there and experiencing the live performance not in picking over the result out of context. ? You are right, it was unrehearsed... could have been awful because of it, but it just wasn't... it was absolutely great. ? And I could agree with you about Nik if this was a discussion about 82/83/84 but I can't agree about Herne Bay or about Space Ritual in general because he plays well and commands the stage with charisma... and can get all these great ex-Hawkwind musicians to perform with him so every gig is a real event. ? Ian --- On Thu, 12/18/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 1:12 PM Hello Ian Thank you for your kind words. As I wrote to Colin I only have a good audience recording here. But I am sure that I can hear every instrument that was played. And I heard how wrong they were played. I know that just listening to an audio tape is not comparable to a LIVE event. Watching all these wonderful musicians must be awesome But it is a psychological point. Listenling to a show over the headphones reveals all the musical problems which were hidden by the optical effects and the "feeling" of an event I am not against this SR2009 project But it has to be better that HB2008. And I must again admit that in my eyes (and ears) Nik Turner is the main problem I am sorry to be so negative Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:48 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, yours is amongst the *most* respected opinions on this forum... but what you've said here is so wrong my friend. ? Herne Bay was just wonderful, well appreciated by the audience (including people I'd brought along that had never had any HW related exposure before), Nik's playing was terrific. ? Yes, Jerry was indeed 'Man of the Match' as I said on my blog about the event, but how anyone can dismiss the playing of Adrian Shaw, Alan Davey, Steve Swindells and the rest is beyond my understanding... and Ron's delivery on High Rise was just *immense*. ? Sorry, Bernhard, I guess you've heard a bootleg... they only tell a bit of the story and they never replace being there and the reaction on the night was of real pleasure from the audience... ? Roll on the Roundhouse... Ian --- On Thu, 12/18/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Dec 18 10:00:49 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:00:49 -0800 Subject: Fallen Angel Message-ID: In an unfortunate mishap, Blue Oyster Cult lead guitarist/vocalist Donald 'Buck Dharma' Roeser slipped on a flight of stairs in his Florida home this past Sunday evening, while carrying some packages. The fall resulted in a shoulder injury, which has forced the cancellation of the band's remaining shows for 2008. A complete and full recovery is expected. Further details regarding the status of the Blue Oyster Cult 2009 tour schedule will be announced shortly. Cancelled Dates Dec. 18 - Cleveland, OH - House of Blues Dec. 19 - Palatine, IL - Durty Nellie's Dec. 20 - Council Bluffs, IA - Horseshoe Casino Whiskey Roadhouse From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Dec 18 10:37:17 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:37:17 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDIZk-03pJCq0@fwd08.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Hi? Bernhard, ? I strongly suspect that it will be much better; the line-up that played at Herne Bay had not rehearsed at all yet still produced some incredible moments.? With a few solid rehearsals under their belts, the results could be quite amazing.? I certainly believe that this will be a lot better than the chaos that was the Hawkestra event. ? Colin --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 1:06 PM Hi Colin >Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? No, but all I have here is an audience recording from this show. I know that just a recording is not the same like beeing there. But it is a good chance only to focus on the audio part and not be affected by the visuals I also know that a COMPLETE gig/show is the video AND the audio part. I am talking about the AUDIO part here A fine selection of tracks but they have played not together but against each other Have listened a couple of times to this show. As I mentioned before the best musician on stage was Jerry Again I am very sorry to be so negative. Most of the musicians from this show are good musiscians and great people. But they performed on this day a crap gig. Perhaps they did not have the time to reherse. Who knows ? My very private oppinion is that Nik Turner is the problem. Listening very carefully to this show you can hear that everytime when NT is taking action the quality of the performance goes down. Not only at the HB show but also during most of the other SR shows they did over the last couple of years. Lets hope that SR2009 will be better than Herne Bay Bernhard --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 18 10:40:42 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:40:42 -0800 Subject: HW Space Ritual Message-ID: I have to wonder what happened when I saw Nikwind (when he was backed the Pressurehead guys) in NY years ago. The band gave a great performance and Nik was downright gentlemanly. He freaking bowed to the audience at the end, and in a very formal voice thanked us all for attending! It was a great show I wouldn't have thought twice about going back to see them again. And my wife saw Nikwind twice and she said the show I missed was even better. And yet I always hear these stories about him being a loose cannon. Did I just get lucky seeing that show?? Steve -----Original Message----- From: "bernhard.pospiech" Date: Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 7:32 am Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Thu Dec 18 10:53:16 2008 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:53:16 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <3312441640.40169218@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:40:42 -0800, you sent through the ether: >And yet I always hear these stories about him being a loose cannon. Nik is -not- a loose canon! -S. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Dec 18 11:25:07 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:25:07 -0500 Subject: Fallen Angel In-Reply-To: <840360.50564.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ouch, best wishes for a speedy recovery with the least amount of pain it takes to heal right. Best wishes, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:01 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Fallen Angel In an unfortunate mishap, Blue Oyster Cult lead guitarist/vocalist Donald 'Buck Dharma' Roeser slipped on a flight of stairs in his Florida home this past Sunday evening, while carrying some packages. The fall resulted in a shoulder injury, which has forced the cancellation of the band's remaining shows for 2008. A complete and full recovery is expected. Further details regarding the status of the Blue Oyster Cult 2009 tour schedule will be announced shortly. Cancelled Dates Dec. 18 - Cleveland, OH - House of Blues Dec. 19 - Palatine, IL - Durty Nellie's Dec. 20 - Council Bluffs, IA - Horseshoe Casino Whiskey Roadhouse From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Dec 18 11:32:14 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:32:14 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <933209.52745.qm@web23205.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi again Colin I am sure that they will play a much better gig after they have rehearsed for a couple of days. We have here a lot of excellent musicians ! If Nik remembers that he is a musician as well then we will get a great show ! The problem with HAWKESTRA was that we had at least 30 different personalities with 30 different interests on stage. Unfortunately to much politics in this life !! Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Colin Allen Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:37 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Hi? Bernhard, ? I strongly suspect that it will be much better; the line-up that played at Herne Bay had not rehearsed at all yet still produced some incredible moments.? With a few solid rehearsals under their belts, the results could be quite amazing.? I certainly believe that this will be a lot better than the chaos that was the Hawkestra event. ? Colin --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 1:06 PM Hi Colin >Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? No, but all I have here is an audience recording from this show. I know that just a recording is not the same like beeing there. But it is a good chance only to focus on the audio part and not be affected by the visuals I also know that a COMPLETE gig/show is the video AND the audio part. I am talking about the AUDIO part here A fine selection of tracks but they have played not together but against each other Have listened a couple of times to this show. As I mentioned before the best musician on stage was Jerry Again I am very sorry to be so negative. Most of the musicians from this show are good musiscians and great people. But they performed on this day a crap gig. Perhaps they did not have the time to reherse. Who knows ? My very private oppinion is that Nik Turner is the problem. Listening very carefully to this show you can hear that everytime when NT is taking action the quality of the performance goes down. Not only at the HB show but also during most of the other SR shows they did over the last couple of years. Lets hope that SR2009 will be better than Herne Bay Bernhard --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Dec 18 11:39:56 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:39:56 -0500 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDLmm-1QHnY80@fwd10.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: "Unfortunately to much politics in this life !!" Hi Bernhard, I agree, and when the politics gets mixed up with the music it's not cool. Of course money is the underlying issue, and as long as everyone has enough to comfortably survive that's what it really comes down to. Obviously playing Hawkwind music for musicians is a labor of love. For me, it's a way of staying sane, but the only work I need to do is insert the CD. I don't have to deal with the day to day issues that spring up while being on the road. Happy touring to Dave, and Nik. Peace, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of bernhard.pospiech Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:32 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Hi again Colin I am sure that they will play a much better gig after they have rehearsed for a couple of days. We have here a lot of excellent musicians ! If Nik remembers that he is a musician as well then we will get a great show ! The problem with HAWKESTRA was that we had at least 30 different personalities with 30 different interests on stage. Unfortunately to much politics in this life !! Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Colin Allen Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:37 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Hi? Bernhard, ? I strongly suspect that it will be much better; the line-up that played at Herne Bay had not rehearsed at all yet still produced some incredible moments.? With a few solid rehearsals under their belts, the results could be quite amazing.? I certainly believe that this will be a lot better than the chaos that was the Hawkestra event. ? Colin --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 1:06 PM Hi Colin >Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? No, but all I have here is an audience recording from this show. I know that just a recording is not the same like beeing there. But it is a good chance only to focus on the audio part and not be affected by the visuals I also know that a COMPLETE gig/show is the video AND the audio part. I am talking about the AUDIO part here A fine selection of tracks but they have played not together but against each other Have listened a couple of times to this show. As I mentioned before the best musician on stage was Jerry Again I am very sorry to be so negative. Most of the musicians from this show are good musiscians and great people. But they performed on this day a crap gig. Perhaps they did not have the time to reherse. Who knows ? My very private oppinion is that Nik Turner is the problem. Listening very carefully to this show you can hear that everytime when NT is taking action the quality of the performance goes down. Not only at the HB show but also during most of the other SR shows they did over the last couple of years. Lets hope that SR2009 will be better than Herne Bay Bernhard --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM Hi there This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay than it will be a waste of money. It was an absolutely crap performance. The only highlight was Jerry Richards I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. Playing without Nik Turner He is the one who ruins every gig. I am sorry to say it but it is the truth Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: From: SHLL (Scott Heller) Subject: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM Hej How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any of the original band: No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that means it will be: Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding the event..... And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the details bring...before making final judgement. scott From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 18 11:50:34 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:50:34 -0600 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDLmm-1QHnY80@fwd10.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Just turn the thing over to Elvis Costello and have any prior Hawkwind members make certain to play ONLY their own material or other musical cover versions that Barney would have had a happier memory with, and to show the integrity of the event and that it is not an act of war (AGAIN) be that intentionally or non-so how's that for some BS???? nik's not getting younger, may he have a great time and all who attend I guess enjoy anything offered while the precious moments still exist on earth.... On 12/18/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > Hi again Colin > > I am sure that they will play a much better gig after > they have rehearsed for a couple of days. > > We have here a lot of excellent musicians ! > If Nik remembers that he is a musician as well then we will get > a great show ! > > The problem with HAWKESTRA was that we had at least 30 different > personalities > with 30 different interests on stage. > > Unfortunately to much politics in this life !! > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Colin Allen > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:37 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > Hi Bernhard, > > I strongly suspect that it will be much better; the line-up that played at > Herne Bay had not rehearsed at all yet still produced some incredible > moments. With a few solid rehearsals under their belts, the results could > be quite amazing. I certainly believe that this will be a lot better than > the chaos that was the Hawkestra event. > > Colin > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 1:06 PM > > Hi Colin > > > >Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > No, but all I have here is an audience recording from this show. > I know that just a recording is not the same like beeing there. > But it is a good chance only to focus on the audio part and not be affected > by the visuals I also know that a COMPLETE gig/show is the video AND the > audio part. > > I am talking about the AUDIO part here > A fine selection of tracks but they have played not together but against > each other > > Have listened a couple of times to this show. > As I mentioned before the best musician on stage was Jerry > > Again I am very sorry to be so negative. > > Most of the musicians from this show are good musiscians and great people. > But they performed on this day a crap gig. > Perhaps they did not have the time to reherse. Who knows ? > > My very private oppinion is that Nik Turner is the problem. > Listening very carefully to this show you can hear that everytime when NT > is > taking action the quality of the performance goes down. > Not only at the HB show but also during most of the other SR shows they did > over the last couple of years. > > > Lets hope that SR2009 will be better than Herne Bay > > > Bernhard > > > > > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay > than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect > to > me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and > the > rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne > Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have any > of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that > means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually see > the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding > the > event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the > details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Dec 18 14:33:32 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:33:32 -0000 Subject: Solstice sunrise Message-ID: A couple of websites for folk to watch the Winter Solstice sunrise at Maeshowe and Newgrange if it's not raining. Saturday might be ok but Sunday 21st December is looking rather iffy. http://www.maeshowe.co.uk/ http://www.servecast.com/opw/211208/index.html Peace and light jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 18 16:28:22 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:28:22 -0600 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812180850o5dbee7fcp9e32adce28920608@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: real quick: Nik's relationship carried on with Barney after Hawkwind's ended so Nik is the man for this memorial maybe they will have Trev and Steve do a huge amount of ICU on top of the appropriate HW interpretations..... On 12/18/08, mike coleman wrote: > > Just turn the thing over to Elvis Costello and have any prior Hawkwind > members make certain to play ONLY their own material or other musical cover > versions that Barney would have had a happier memory with, and to show the > integrity of the event and that it is not an act of war (AGAIN) be that > intentionally or non-so > how's that for some BS???? > nik's not getting younger, may he have a great time and all who attend > I guess enjoy anything offered while the precious moments still exist on > earth.... > > > > On 12/18/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: >> >> Hi again Colin >> >> I am sure that they will play a much better gig after >> they have rehearsed for a couple of days. >> >> We have here a lot of excellent musicians ! >> If Nik remembers that he is a musician as well then we will get >> a great show ! >> >> The problem with HAWKESTRA was that we had at least 30 different >> personalities >> with 30 different interests on stage. >> >> Unfortunately to much politics in this life !! >> >> >> Cheers >> Bernhard >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Colin Allen >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:37 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual >> >> Hi Bernhard, >> >> I strongly suspect that it will be much better; the line-up that played at >> Herne Bay had not rehearsed at all yet still produced some incredible >> moments. With a few solid rehearsals under their belts, the results could >> be quite amazing. I certainly believe that this will be a lot better than >> the chaos that was the Hawkestra event. >> >> Colin >> >> --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech >> wrote: >> >> From: bernhard.pospiech >> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 1:06 PM >> >> Hi Colin >> >> >> >Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? >> >> No, but all I have here is an audience recording from this show. >> I know that just a recording is not the same like beeing there. >> But it is a good chance only to focus on the audio part and not be >> affected >> by the visuals I also know that a COMPLETE gig/show is the video AND the >> audio part. >> >> I am talking about the AUDIO part here >> A fine selection of tracks but they have played not together but against >> each other >> >> Have listened a couple of times to this show. >> As I mentioned before the best musician on stage was Jerry >> >> Again I am very sorry to be so negative. >> >> Most of the musicians from this show are good musiscians and great people. >> But they performed on this day a crap gig. >> Perhaps they did not have the time to reherse. Who knows ? >> >> My very private oppinion is that Nik Turner is the problem. >> Listening very carefully to this show you can hear that everytime when NT >> is >> taking action the quality of the performance goes down. >> Not only at the HB show but also during most of the other SR shows they >> did >> over the last couple of years. >> >> >> Lets hope that SR2009 will be better than Herne Bay >> >> >> Bernhard >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech >> wrote: >> >> From: bernhard.pospiech >> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM >> >> Hi there >> >> This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay >> than it will be a waste of money. >> >> It was an absolutely crap performance. >> >> >> The only highlight was Jerry Richards >> >> I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. >> Playing without Nik Turner >> >> He is the one who ruins every gig. >> I am sorry to say it but it is the truth >> >> >> Bernhard >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Ian Abrahams >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual >> >> I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is >> basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, >> playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect >> to >> me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and >> the >> rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne >> Bay... >> personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) >> >> --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >> >> From: SHLL (Scott Heller) >> Subject: HW Space Ritual >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM >> >> Hej >> >> How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have >> any >> of the original band: >> >> No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that >> means it will be: >> >> Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually >> see >> the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding >> the >> event..... >> >> And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the >> details bring...before making final judgement. >> >> scott >> > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Dec 18 17:01:16 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:01:16 -0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <503492.41791.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay > than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect > to > me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and > the > rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne > Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have > any > of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that > means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually > see > the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding > the > event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the > details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Dec 18 17:25:13 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:25:13 -0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <3312441640.40169218@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Then, a couple of months later, they did a big 25 date European Tour under the name of Space Ritual...I was in it...that was good too. The Pressurehead guys were on that tour as well. You can buy the CD of the Freiburg gig. here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html ...and all UK orders from real festival music will arrive in time for Christmas if i get the order by tomorrow (according to the post office) trev REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, Video Downloads, News, Healers -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Swann" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 3:40 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > I have to wonder what happened when I saw Nikwind (when he was backed the > Pressurehead guys) in NY years ago. The band gave a great performance and > Nik was downright gentlemanly. He freaking bowed to the audience at the > end, and in a very formal voice thanked us all for attending! It was a > great show I wouldn't have thought twice about going back to see them > again. And my wife saw Nikwind twice and she said the show I missed was > even better. > > And yet I always hear these stories about him being a loose cannon. Did I > just get lucky seeing that show?? > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: "bernhard.pospiech" > Date: Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 7:32 am > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay > than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect > to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket > (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at > Herne Bay... personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have > any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that > means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually > see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those > surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the > details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Dec 18 17:32:45 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:32:45 -0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDLmm-1QHnY80@fwd10.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: There again a rehearsal might ruin the whole thing... Take a look at the Real Festival Music photo review of Herne Bay...lots of fun there http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/images.html trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "bernhard.pospiech" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:32 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Hi again Colin > > I am sure that they will play a much better gig after > they have rehearsed for a couple of days. > > We have here a lot of excellent musicians ! > If Nik remembers that he is a musician as well then we will get > a great show ! > > The problem with HAWKESTRA was that we had at least 30 different > personalities > with 30 different interests on stage. > > Unfortunately to much politics in this life !! > > > Cheers > Bernhard > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Colin Allen > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:37 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > Hi Bernhard, > > I strongly suspect that it will be much better; the line-up that played at > Herne Bay had not rehearsed at all yet still produced some incredible > moments. With a few solid rehearsals under their belts, the results could > be quite amazing. I certainly believe that this will be a lot better than > the chaos that was the Hawkestra event. > > Colin > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 1:06 PM > > Hi Colin > > >>Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > No, but all I have here is an audience recording from this show. > I know that just a recording is not the same like beeing there. > But it is a good chance only to focus on the audio part and not be > affected > by the visuals I also know that a COMPLETE gig/show is the video AND the > audio part. > > I am talking about the AUDIO part here > A fine selection of tracks but they have played not together but against > each other > > Have listened a couple of times to this show. > As I mentioned before the best musician on stage was Jerry > > Again I am very sorry to be so negative. > > Most of the musicians from this show are good musiscians and great people. > But they performed on this day a crap gig. > Perhaps they did not have the time to reherse. Who knows ? > > My very private oppinion is that Nik Turner is the problem. > Listening very carefully to this show you can hear that everytime when NT > is > taking action the quality of the performance goes down. > Not only at the HB show but also during most of the other SR shows they > did > over the last couple of years. > > > Lets hope that SR2009 will be better than Herne Bay > > > Bernhard > > > > > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne Bay > than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent prospect > to > me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into Nik's pocket (and > the > rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the performance at Herne > Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly have > any > of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King that > means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't actually > see > the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and those surrounding > the > event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what the > details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Dec 19 03:41:13 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:41:13 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi there !! I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly folks But unfortunately the output was crap. I am sorry to say this. Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne > Bay than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent > prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into > Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > performance at Herne Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly > have any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King > that means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't > actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and > those surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what > the details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Dec 19 04:23:26 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:23:26 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDauT-1WrK1w0@fwd10.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Bernhard, ? Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. ? It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! ? You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context!? :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM Hi there !! I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly folks But unfortunately the output was crap. I am sorry to say this. Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne > Bay than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent > prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into > Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > performance at Herne Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly > have any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King > that means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't > actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and > those surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what > the details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Dec 19 04:56:33 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:56:33 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <773741.23198.qm@web26905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Good morning Ian I really understand what you are trying to explain. Of course I know that I was not there and I also know that the "feeling" of a real live experience is not compareble to a bootleg recording of a show. Therefore I mentioned a couple of times that I am only talking about the "AUDIO" part of this event. I can not judge about the light show, the peoples mood and the overall feeling. It is just the plain music for me I can talk about. And this music is not the music I can enjoy. Good musicians were on stage and played lot of great songs from my favorite band. They tried to play them in a different way. No problem. But in fact this "different way" did not work. This is not only my view. Lot of good friends of mine from the HW lists think the same way. I do not want to start a discussion here that could make some peole angry. Hawkwind have played lots of crap shows over the years !!! And I have no problem to mention this as well !!! A real musician knows when he played a crap show. I really hope that SR2009 will be much more rehearsed and than we all will get a great show. No need for a perfect show. But it has to be "listenable" without basic errors All I wanted is to mention that a crap show was played. Nothing more !!!! Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:23 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. ? It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! ? You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context!? :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM Hi there !! I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly folks But unfortunately the output was crap. I am sorry to say this. Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne > Bay than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent > prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into > Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > performance at Herne Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly > have any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King > that means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't > actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and > those surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what > the details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Dec 19 07:51:34 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:51:34 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDc5O-1Be56e0@fwd00.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Bernhard, ? My friend, we just aren't going to agree, I'm afraid. People went to the gig, had a great time, really enjoyed themselves, got their money's worth and were happy. If, after that, people who didn't go are picking over the notes played and determining whether a gig was 'crap' on that basis, it isn't the way I think a gig should be understood. I'm just happy I had a fab time with nice people at a great show... I'll leave it there! :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:56 AM Good morning Ian I really understand what you are trying to explain. Of course I know that I was not there and I also know that the "feeling" of a real live experience is not compareble to a bootleg recording of a show. Therefore I mentioned a couple of times that I am only talking about the "AUDIO" part of this event. I can not judge about the light show, the peoples mood and the overall feeling. It is just the plain music for me I can talk about. And this music is not the music I can enjoy. Good musicians were on stage and played lot of great songs from my favorite band. They tried to play them in a different way. No problem. But in fact this "different way" did not work. This is not only my view. Lot of good friends of mine from the HW lists think the same way. I do not want to start a discussion here that could make some peole angry. Hawkwind have played lots of crap shows over the years !!! And I have no problem to mention this as well !!! A real musician knows when he played a crap show. I really hope that SR2009 will be much more rehearsed and than we all will get a great show. No need for a perfect show. But it has to be "listenable" without basic errors All I wanted is to mention that a crap show was played. Nothing more !!!! Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:23 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. ? It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! ? You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context!? :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM Hi there !! I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly folks But unfortunately the output was crap. I am sorry to say this. Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne > Bay than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent > prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into > Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > performance at Herne Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly > have any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King > that means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't > actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and > those surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what > the details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Dec 19 08:02:43 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:02:43 +0100 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <56910.61527.qm@web26908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: OK Ian, no problem for me Important is that all folks who went to this show were happy and enjoyed it Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:52 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? My friend, we just aren't going to agree, I'm afraid. People went to the gig, had a great time, really enjoyed themselves, got their money's worth and were happy. If, after that, people who didn't go are picking over the notes played and determining whether a gig was 'crap' on that basis, it isn't the way I think a gig should be understood. I'm just happy I had a fab time with nice people at a great show... I'll leave it there! :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:56 AM Good morning Ian I really understand what you are trying to explain. Of course I know that I was not there and I also know that the "feeling" of a real live experience is not compareble to a bootleg recording of a show. Therefore I mentioned a couple of times that I am only talking about the "AUDIO" part of this event. I can not judge about the light show, the peoples mood and the overall feeling. It is just the plain music for me I can talk about. And this music is not the music I can enjoy. Good musicians were on stage and played lot of great songs from my favorite band. They tried to play them in a different way. No problem. But in fact this "different way" did not work. This is not only my view. Lot of good friends of mine from the HW lists think the same way. I do not want to start a discussion here that could make some peole angry. Hawkwind have played lots of crap shows over the years !!! And I have no problem to mention this as well !!! A real musician knows when he played a crap show. I really hope that SR2009 will be much more rehearsed and than we all will get a great show. No need for a perfect show. But it has to be "listenable" without basic errors All I wanted is to mention that a crap show was played. Nothing more !!!! Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:23 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. ? It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! ? You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context!? :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM Hi there !! I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly folks But unfortunately the output was crap. I am sorry to say this. Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne > Bay than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent > prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into > Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > performance at Herne Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly > have any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King > that means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't > actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and > those surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what > the details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Dec 19 11:00:11 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:00:11 +0000 Subject: HW: recent tour In-Reply-To: <584EB339E48A47B3B49B7E3C1B4741F2@jillspc> Message-ID: So, everyone seems to have seen marvellous shows (and the lurkers support you by SMS): but what was the new stuff like? Is this genuinely new material? Because if that's the result of having Dibs and/or Niall on board I think even those of who couldn't make these gigs will be very happy to have them... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From steve.bishop at DB.COM Fri Dec 19 11:06:50 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:06:50 +0000 Subject: HW: recent tour In-Reply-To: <20081219160011.GA28810@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: New stuff (Wraith and Sentinels) definitely new stuff and definitely quality stuff ...................... not sure that Niall would have had time yet to have any input into this but definitely got the inference that Dibs had. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Dec 19 11:18:11 2008 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iainferguson at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:18:11 -0500 Subject: HW: recent tour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Also the 2nd half of Utopia, wasn't that brand new as well, or was I cosmically bewildered at the time... -----Original Message----- From: Steve Bishop To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 8:06 Subject: Re: HW: recent tour New stuff (Wraith and Sentinels) definitely new stuff and definitely quality stuff ...................... not sure that Niall would have had time yet to have any input into this but definitely got the inference that Dibs had. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures.= ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 19 11:40:57 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:40:57 +0000 Subject: Cherry Red Cat - Brock interview Message-ID: Received a Cherry Red Catalogue (Nov / Dec 2008) issue no 8 and there is a (very) brief interview with Dave Brock in there to support the 2 box sets. I won't keep this so if any collectors out there want my copy first to send me their address can have. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Dec 19 14:05:19 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:05:19 -0800 Subject: Cherry Red Cat - Brock interview Message-ID: Could you scan it and e-mail to list? I'm sure others have already asked so I won't put my address. Gary ________________________________ From: Steve Freight To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:40:57 AM Subject: Cherry Red Cat - Brock interview Received a Cherry Red Catalogue (Nov / Dec 2008) issue no 8 and there is a (very) brief interview with Dave Brock in there to support the 2 box sets. I won't keep this so if any collectors out there want my copy first to send me their address can have. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Dec 20 03:10:20 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:10:20 -0500 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <56910.61527.qm@web26908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've been at shows that sounded fine, and later would hear something from a tape and realize a musician made a mistake. I didn't affect my enjoyment of the show at the time, and although I may notice the mistake later with more clarity, I still enjoy the show. I know some people who don't like live recordings at all, but I like the spontaneous ness of a live gig, (even with mistakes), especially if I was there. The only think that I can't stand with live shows is fans making so much noise during quiet parts of the music that it interferes with listening to a live show. I think we may have different expectations when listening to live shows. This includes all bands, not exclusively Hawkwind. I like hearing consecutive shows so I can hear how certain spaces get worked out. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? My friend, we just aren't going to agree, I'm afraid. People went to the gig, had a great time, really enjoyed themselves, got their money's worth and were happy. If, after that, people who didn't go are picking over the notes played and determining whether a gig was 'crap' on that basis, it isn't the way I think a gig should be understood. I'm just happy I had a fab time with nice people at a great show... I'll leave it there! :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:56 AM Good morning Ian I really understand what you are trying to explain. Of course I know that I was not there and I also know that the "feeling" of a real live experience is not compareble to a bootleg recording of a show. Therefore I mentioned a couple of times that I am only talking about the "AUDIO" part of this event. I can not judge about the light show, the peoples mood and the overall feeling. It is just the plain music for me I can talk about. And this music is not the music I can enjoy. Good musicians were on stage and played lot of great songs from my favorite band. They tried to play them in a different way. No problem. But in fact this "different way" did not work. This is not only my view. Lot of good friends of mine from the HW lists think the same way. I do not want to start a discussion here that could make some peole angry. Hawkwind have played lots of crap shows over the years !!! And I have no problem to mention this as well !!! A real musician knows when he played a crap show. I really hope that SR2009 will be much more rehearsed and than we all will get a great show. No need for a perfect show. But it has to be "listenable" without basic errors All I wanted is to mention that a crap show was played. Nothing more !!!! Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:23 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. ? It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! ? You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context!? :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM Hi there !! I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly folks But unfortunately the output was crap. I am sorry to say this. Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne > Bay than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent > prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into > Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > performance at Herne Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly > have any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King > that means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't > actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and > those surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what > the details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Dec 20 03:33:29 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:33:29 -0500 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <1LDezY-1jWwl60@fwd01.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Now you have my curiosity peaked. With so many folks playing I'd imagine there's the possibility of people stepping all over each others; (some more than others). Since I wasn't their either; I hope the show becomes available for all of us. I'd be willing to buy the show to support Bob's family. It must have been hard to get so many different musicians together for the gig; and perhaps they didn't have time to rehearse? I admire the spirit of the gig; and look forward to hearing it; sometime; so I can express my opinion.; I'm glad those who went had a great time. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of bernhard.pospiech Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:03 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual OK Ian, no problem for me Important is that all folks who went to this show were happy and enjoyed it Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:52 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? My friend, we just aren't going to agree, I'm afraid. People went to the gig, had a great time, really enjoyed themselves, got their money's worth and were happy. If, after that, people who didn't go are picking over the notes played and determining whether a gig was 'crap' on that basis, it isn't the way I think a gig should be understood. I'm just happy I had a fab time with nice people at a great show... I'll leave it there! :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:56 AM Good morning Ian I really understand what you are trying to explain. Of course I know that I was not there and I also know that the "feeling" of a real live experience is not compareble to a bootleg recording of a show. Therefore I mentioned a couple of times that I am only talking about the "AUDIO" part of this event. I can not judge about the light show, the peoples mood and the overall feeling. It is just the plain music for me I can talk about. And this music is not the music I can enjoy. Good musicians were on stage and played lot of great songs from my favorite band. They tried to play them in a different way. No problem. But in fact this "different way" did not work. This is not only my view. Lot of good friends of mine from the HW lists think the same way. I do not want to start a discussion here that could make some peole angry. Hawkwind have played lots of crap shows over the years !!! And I have no problem to mention this as well !!! A real musician knows when he played a crap show. I really hope that SR2009 will be much more rehearsed and than we all will get a great show. No need for a perfect show. But it has to be "listenable" without basic errors All I wanted is to mention that a crap show was played. Nothing more !!!! Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:23 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. ? It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! ? You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context!? :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM Hi there !! I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly folks But unfortunately the output was crap. I am sorry to say this. Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne > Bay than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent > prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into > Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > performance at Herne Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly > have any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King > that means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't > actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and > those surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what > the details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Dec 20 07:15:16 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:15:16 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The event was recorded to 24 track and was filmed so there is a possibility that it may appear at some point. Best wishes, Colin --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: From: Mary Sullivan Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 8:33 AM Now you have my curiosity peaked. With so many folks playing I'd imagine there's the possibility of people stepping all over each others; (some more than others). Since I wasn't their either; I hope the show becomes available for all of us. I'd be willing to buy the show to support Bob's family. It must have been hard to get so many different musicians together for the gig; and perhaps they didn't have time to rehearse? I admire the spirit of the gig; and look forward to hearing it; sometime; so I can express my opinion.; I'm glad those who went had a great time. Love, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of bernhard.pospiech Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:03 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual OK Ian, no problem for me Important is that all folks who went to this show were happy and enjoyed it Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:52 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? My friend, we just aren't going to agree, I'm afraid. People went to the gig, had a great time, really enjoyed themselves, got their money's worth and were happy. If, after that, people who didn't go are picking over the notes played and determining whether a gig was 'crap' on that basis, it isn't the way I think a gig should be understood. I'm just happy I had a fab time with nice people at a great show... I'll leave it there! :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:56 AM Good morning Ian I really understand what you are trying to explain. Of course I know that I was not there and I also know that the "feeling" of a real live experience is not compareble to a bootleg recording of a show. Therefore I mentioned a couple of times that I am only talking about the "AUDIO" part of this event. I can not judge about the light show, the peoples mood and the overall feeling. It is just the plain music for me I can talk about. And this music is not the music I can enjoy. Good musicians were on stage and played lot of great songs from my favorite band. They tried to play them in a different way. No problem. But in fact this "different way" did not work. This is not only my view. Lot of good friends of mine from the HW lists think the same way. I do not want to start a discussion here that could make some peole angry. Hawkwind have played lots of crap shows over the years !!! And I have no problem to mention this as well !!! A real musician knows when he played a crap show. I really hope that SR2009 will be much more rehearsed and than we all will get a great show. No need for a perfect show. But it has to be "listenable" without basic errors All I wanted is to mention that a crap show was played. Nothing more !!!! Regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:23 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual Bernhard, ? Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. ? It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! ? You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context!? :) ? Ian --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech wrote: From: bernhard.pospiech Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM Hi there !! I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly folks But unfortunately the output was crap. I am sorry to say this. Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) regards Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of trev Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual ha ha ha the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage because it is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it change your life forever actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? > > --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech > > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM > > Hi there > > This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne > Bay than it will be a waste of money. > > It was an absolutely crap performance. > > > The only highlight was Jerry Richards > > I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. > Playing without Nik Turner > > He is the one who ruins every gig. > I am sorry to say it but it is the truth > > > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, > playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent > prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into > Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > performance at Herne Bay... > personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) > > --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > From: SHLL (Scott Heller) > Subject: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM > > Hej > > How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly > have any of the original band: > > No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King > that means it will be: > > Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't > actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and > those surrounding the event..... > > And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what > the details bring...before making final judgement. > > scott > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Dec 20 09:23:50 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:23:50 -0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <550596.97456.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: They probably turned the cameras off when I came on, out of fear. trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:15 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > The event was recorded to 24 track and was filmed so there is a > possibility that it may appear at some point. > > Best wishes, > > Colin > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > From: Mary Sullivan > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 8:33 AM > > Now you have my curiosity peaked. With so many folks playing I'd imagine > there's the possibility of people stepping all over each others; (some > more > than others). Since I wasn't their either; I hope the show becomes > available for all of us. I'd be willing to buy the show to support > Bob's > family. It must have been hard to get so many different musicians > together > for the gig; and perhaps they didn't have time to rehearse? I admire the > spirit of the gig; and look forward to hearing it; sometime; so I can > express my opinion.; I'm glad those who went had a great time. > Love, > Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of bernhard.pospiech > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:03 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > > OK Ian, no problem for me > > Important is that all folks who went to this show were happy and enjoyed > it > > > Regards > Bernhard > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:52 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > Bernhard, > > My friend, we just aren't going to agree, I'm afraid. People went to > the > gig, had a great time, really enjoyed themselves, got their money's worth > and were happy. If, after that, people who didn't go are picking over the > notes played and determining whether a gig was 'crap' on that basis, it > isn't the way I think a gig should be understood. I'm just happy I had > a fab > time with nice people at a great show... I'll leave it there! :) > > Ian > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:56 AM > > Good morning Ian > > I really understand what you are trying to explain. > > Of course I know that I was not there and I also know that the > "feeling" of > a real live experience is not compareble to a bootleg recording of a show. > > Therefore I mentioned a couple of times that I am only talking about the > "AUDIO" part of this event. > > I can not judge about the light show, the peoples mood and the overall > feeling. > > It is just the plain music for me I can talk about. > > And this music is not the music I can enjoy. > > Good musicians were on stage and played lot of great songs from my > favorite > band. > They tried to play them in a different way. No problem. > > But in fact this "different way" did not work. > This is not only my view. > Lot of good friends of mine from the HW lists think the same way. > > I do not want to start a discussion here that could make some peole angry. > > Hawkwind have played lots of crap shows over the years !!! > And I have no problem to mention this as well !!! > A real musician knows when he played a crap show. > > I really hope that SR2009 will be much more rehearsed and than we all will > get a great show. > No need for a perfect show. But it has to be "listenable" without > basic > errors > > All I wanted is to mention that a crap show was played. Nothing more !!!! > > > Regards > Bernhard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:23 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > Bernhard, > > Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a > live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I > know > people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it > was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show > to > listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. > > It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! > > You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! > It > wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people > to > go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context! :) > > Ian > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM > > Hi there !! > > I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. > I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. > > As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly > folks > > But unfortunately the output was crap. > > I am sorry to say this. > Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. > > It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. > > A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. > I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) > > regards > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of trev > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > ha ha ha > > the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song > "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage > because it > is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable > > and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power > ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it > change your life forever > > actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual > > > > judge trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Colin Allen" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM > To: > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > >> Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? >> >> --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech >> >> wrote: >> >> From: bernhard.pospiech >> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM >> >> Hi there >> >> This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne >> Bay than it will be a waste of money. >> >> It was an absolutely crap performance. >> >> >> The only highlight was Jerry Richards >> >> I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. >> Playing without Nik Turner >> >> He is the one who ruins every gig. >> I am sorry to say it but it is the truth >> >> >> Bernhard >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Ian Abrahams >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual >> >> I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > >> basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, >> playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent >> prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into >> Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > >> performance at Herne Bay... >> personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) >> >> --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >> >> From: SHLL (Scott Heller) >> Subject: HW Space Ritual >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM >> >> Hej >> >> How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly >> have any of the original band: >> >> No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King >> that means it will be: >> >> Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't >> actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and >> those surrounding the event..... >> >> And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what >> the details bring...before making final judgement. >> >> scott >> > From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Dec 20 10:49:50 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:49:50 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think the lenses all broke at that very moment! --- On Sat, 20/12/08, trev wrote: From: trev Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 2:23 PM They probably turned the cameras off when I came on, out of fear. trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:15 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > The event was recorded to 24 track and was filmed so there is a > possibility that it may appear at some point. > > Best wishes, > > Colin > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > From: Mary Sullivan > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 8:33 AM > > Now you have my curiosity peaked. With so many folks playing I'd imagine > there's the possibility of people stepping all over each others; (some > more > than others). Since I wasn't their either; I hope the show becomes > available for all of us. I'd be willing to buy the show to support > Bob's > family. It must have been hard to get so many different musicians > together > for the gig; and perhaps they didn't have time to rehearse? I admire the > spirit of the gig; and look forward to hearing it; sometime; so I can > express my opinion.; I'm glad those who went had a great time. > Love, > Mary > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of bernhard.pospiech > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 8:03 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > > OK Ian, no problem for me > > Important is that all folks who went to this show were happy and enjoyed > it > > > Regards > Bernhard > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 1:52 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > Bernhard, > > My friend, we just aren't going to agree, I'm afraid. People went to > the > gig, had a great time, really enjoyed themselves, got their money's worth > and were happy. If, after that, people who didn't go are picking over the > notes played and determining whether a gig was 'crap' on that basis, it > isn't the way I think a gig should be understood. I'm just happy I had > a fab > time with nice people at a great show... I'll leave it there! :) > > Ian > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 9:56 AM > > Good morning Ian > > I really understand what you are trying to explain. > > Of course I know that I was not there and I also know that the > "feeling" of > a real live experience is not compareble to a bootleg recording of a show. > > Therefore I mentioned a couple of times that I am only talking about the > "AUDIO" part of this event. > > I can not judge about the light show, the peoples mood and the overall > feeling. > > It is just the plain music for me I can talk about. > > And this music is not the music I can enjoy. > > Good musicians were on stage and played lot of great songs from my > favorite > band. > They tried to play them in a different way. No problem. > > But in fact this "different way" did not work. > This is not only my view. > Lot of good friends of mine from the HW lists think the same way. > > I do not want to start a discussion here that could make some peole angry. > > Hawkwind have played lots of crap shows over the years !!! > And I have no problem to mention this as well !!! > A real musician knows when he played a crap show. > > I really hope that SR2009 will be much more rehearsed and than we all will > get a great show. > No need for a perfect show. But it has to be "listenable" without > basic > errors > > All I wanted is to mention that a crap show was played. Nothing more !!!! > > > Regards > Bernhard > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:23 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > Bernhard, > > Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a > live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I > know > people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and it > was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show > to > listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. > > It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! > > You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! > It > wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people > to > go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context! :) > > Ian > > > --- On Fri, 12/19/08, bernhard.pospiech > wrote: > > From: bernhard.pospiech > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:41 AM > > Hi there !! > > I believe that you and the others wanted to do the best. > I also believe that the band and the folks had lot of fun. > > As I mentioned before most people on stage are great musicians and friedly > folks > > But unfortunately the output was crap. > > I am sorry to say this. > Have listend to the recording a couple of times and it doesn't get better. > > It was indeed an unrehearsed performance. > > A big party for the great ROB CALVERT. > I am sorry that it musically did not work (for me and lot of fans I know) > > regards > Bernhard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of trev > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:01 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > ha ha ha > > the only hope for this gig is if judge trev plays his tribute song > "starfighter", for bob calvert, before hawklords take the stage > because it > is bobs absence which will be the most noticeable > > and surely you saw me at herne bay bernhard, didn't you feel the power > ...the truth...didn't i induce a state of self-trancendence...didn't it > change your life forever > > actually the herne bay line up was good, much better than usual > > > > judge trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Colin Allen" > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 12:37 PM > To: > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > >> Were you at the Herne Bay gig, Bernhard? >> >> --- On Thu, 18/12/08, bernhard.pospiech >> >> wrote: >> >> From: bernhard.pospiech >> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, 18 December, 2008, 12:31 PM >> >> Hi there >> >> This show is a good idea but if they play as bad as they did in Herne >> Bay than it will be a waste of money. >> >> It was an absolutely crap performance. >> >> >> The only highlight was Jerry Richards >> >> I only see one chace for this event to be successfull. >> Playing without Nik Turner >> >> He is the one who ruins every gig. >> I am sorry to say it but it is the truth >> >> >> Bernhard >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >> On >> Behalf Of Ian Abrahams >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:14 PM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual >> >> I've got no real insight, but I think the band we are talking about is > >> basically the band as performed at Herne Bay for the Calvert tribute, >> playing the music of the Space Ritual... seems like an excellent >> prospect to me and I have absolutely no problem putting money into >> Nik's pocket (and the rest of the guys involved)... in fact, given the > >> performance at Herne Bay... >> personally I'd be delighted to put money in their pocket! :) >> >> --- On Thu, 12/18/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >> >> From: SHLL (Scott Heller) >> Subject: HW Space Ritual >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 10:55 AM >> >> Hej >> >> How I would love to come and see this but seeing as it will hardly >> have any of the original band: >> >> No lemmy, no calvert, no brock, no stacia, most likely not Simon King >> that means it will be: >> >> Nik, maybe Del Dettmar, Dik Mik.. probably only Nik... I don't >> actually see the point except to put some cash into Niks pocket and >> those surrounding the event..... >> >> And I will not likely travel from Denmark to see it.. Let's see what >> the details bring...before making final judgement. >> >> scott >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Dec 20 13:49:10 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:49:10 -0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <58766.31131.qm@web23208.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: because litmus accidentally walked in front of the camera? trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 3:49 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > I think the lenses all broke at that very moment! > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, trev wrote: > From: trev > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 2:23 PM > > They probably turned the cameras off when I came on, out of fear. > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Colin Allen" > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:15 PM > To: > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > >> The event was recorded to 24 track and was filmed so there is a >> possibility that it may appear at some point. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Colin >> From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Dec 20 14:26:16 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:26:16 +0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Very possibly:). --- On Sat, 20/12/08, trev wrote: From: trev Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 6:49 PM because litmus accidentally walked in front of the camera? trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Colin Allen" Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 3:49 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > I think the lenses all broke at that very moment! > > --- On Sat, 20/12/08, trev wrote: > From: trev > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Saturday, 20 December, 2008, 2:23 PM > > They probably turned the cameras off when I came on, out of fear. > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Colin Allen" > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:15 PM > To: > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > >> The event was recorded to 24 track and was filmed so there is a possibility that it may appear at some point. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Colin >> From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Dec 20 16:58:38 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:58:38 +0000 Subject: Cherry Red Cat - Brock interview In-Reply-To: <822299.63865.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Its at work at the moment so will do so next week. I will send to Starfarers so he can put on his site and ask him to send a link to the group. Steve On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:05 PM, gary shindler wrote: > Could you scan it and e-mail to list? I'm sure others have already asked so > I won't put my address. > Gary > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steve Freight > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:40:57 AM > Subject: Cherry Red Cat - Brock interview > > Received a Cherry Red Catalogue (Nov / Dec 2008) issue no 8 and there is a > (very) brief interview with Dave Brock in there to support the 2 box sets. > > I won't keep this so if any collectors out there want my copy first to send > me their address can have. > > Steve > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Dec 20 18:18:29 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:18:29 -0500 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <773741.23198.qm@web26905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 19 Dec 2008, at 4:23 AM, Ian Abrahams wrote: > Bernhard, > > Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig > is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - > which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context > of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of > story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's > always out of context. > > It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! > > You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't > there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was > put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, > context, always context! :) I agree! The canonical example of this, for me, is "Wild Thing" from the _Jimi Plays Monterey_ album. The latter part of the song is pretty boring to listen to on disc (where Mitch and Noel are raging away creating a wild cacophony and Jimi is physically abusing his guitar) but it's probably one of the iconic moments in live rock history and must have been an absolute blinder for those who were in attendance. It's a perfect example of a stellar gig that doesn't translate over to the audio document. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Dec 21 07:37:54 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:37:54 +0100 Subject: HW Tour 12/2008 ---> SENTINEL Message-ID: Hi I have one question regarding the new song called SENTINEL Is it based on ARTHUR C. CLARKEs short story with the same title which was the basic story for 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY ?? Thanks Bernhard From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Dec 20 22:00:39 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 03:00:39 -0000 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: <773741.23198.qm@web26905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <74F04D8F-F50C-4319-A12E-E73A7D2C28E2@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: which brings us to the question of "What is Music"? Music is the oil of life Music can calm Music can enrage Inspire Amuse Distract Kill Provide emotional release Cause self-transcendence etc it is a thing of belief and analysis it's a very subjective thing as far as ones personal enjoyment goes he he -------------------------------------------------- From: "Paul Mather" Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:18 PM To: Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > On 19 Dec 2008, at 4:23 AM, Ian Abrahams wrote: > >> Bernhard, >> >> Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig >> is a live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - >> which I know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context >> of the show and it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of >> story'. Great to get a show to listen to afterwards but that's >> always out of context. >> >> It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! >> >> You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't >> there! It wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was >> put on for people to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, >> context, always context! :) > > I agree! The canonical example of this, for me, is "Wild Thing" from > the _Jimi Plays Monterey_ album. The latter part of the song is > pretty boring to listen to on disc (where Mitch and Noel are raging > away creating a wild cacophony and Jimi is physically abusing his > guitar) but it's probably one of the iconic moments in live rock > history and must have been an absolute blinder for those who were in > attendance. It's a perfect example of a stellar gig that doesn't > translate over to the audio document. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Dec 21 19:26:21 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:26:21 -0600 Subject: HW Space Ritual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: what are you doing here on the forum. It's the weekend and didn't I assign you a campy b-movie.......nevermind I've been through my NikWind/Grenas/Creed/Thoms stuff, and looking back, now that the tension between camps is past, right? , allI I can say is overall that quality of spacerock I do not believe I can find short of Hawkwind _version Devonshire_ , in all the land far and wide MANDATORY true, I still may have mixed feelings about Nik's psychedelic codpiece and hockey helmet, and maybe he's out of tune vocally on some stuff, but nontheless what a blessing I had never played TRANSGLOBAL...what a surprise, to find me some eyes is there a word for "fear of codpieces"?? nevermind again, and Trev it sounds like you're a brown-note believer, wow, I guess I am a skeptic too about something music is 1' and zeros music is deep On 12/20/08, trev wrote: > > which brings us to the question of > "What is Music"? > > Music is the oil of life > > Music can calm > Music can enrage > Inspire > Amuse > Distract > Kill > Provide emotional release > Cause self-transcendence > etc > > it is a thing of belief > and analysis > > it's a very subjective thing as far as ones personal enjoyment goes > > he he > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Paul Mather" > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re: HW Space Ritual > > On 19 Dec 2008, at 4:23 AM, Ian Abrahams wrote: >> >> Bernhard, >>> >>> Honestly, I think you've really missed the point here... a live gig is a >>> live gig, it's for the people who turn up and enjoy the event - which I >>> know people who attended did enjoy... so that's the context of the show and >>> it was a fantastic event and, really, 'end of story'. Great to get a show >>> to listen to afterwards but that's always out of context. >>> >>> It wasn't 'crap'... it just wasn't... sorry! >>> >>> You say it didn't work for you and other people... you weren't there! It >>> wasn't assembled to be picked over on a bootleg, it was put on for people >>> to go and get a buzz from on the day... please, context, always context! >>> :) >>> >> >> I agree! The canonical example of this, for me, is "Wild Thing" from the >> _Jimi Plays Monterey_ album. The latter part of the song is pretty boring >> to listen to on disc (where Mitch and Noel are raging away creating a wild >> cacophony and Jimi is physically abusing his guitar) but it's probably one >> of the iconic moments in live rock history and must have been an absolute >> blinder for those who were in attendance. It's a perfect example of a >> stellar gig that doesn't translate over to the audio document. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul. >> >> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production >> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> --- Frank Vincent Zappa >> >> From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Dec 22 16:26:35 2008 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:26:35 -0500 Subject: BOC: Agents of Fortune cover art anecdote. Message-ID: >From Black-sabbath.com, Lynn Curlee had this to say about Agents of Fortune and Heaven and Hell: "Yep I did the HEAVEN AND HELL cover painting. I had done AGENTS OF FORTUNE, specifically for BLUE OYSTER CULT in 1976. The band had seen a show of my paintings in NYC where I lived at the time, and they commissioned the magician holding tarot cards (the image was my idea) for their cover. Then a few years later, I had moved to L.A. and I got a call from the management of BLACK SABBATH. As I recall, the two bands had the same management or agent or something. They had a new album and the cover art wasn't working out so they were in a jam. So they asked if I had something suitable. I had already painted the SMOKING ANGELS as a gallery painting. and they chose it for their cover. You may be interested to know that in the original painting the angel on the right side had a complete wing that was cropped to fit the album cover. "Both paintings are long gone, I think they were purchased directly from me by band members, although it was a long long time ago and I don't have good financial records from those days. Someone else might have bought either painting. In any event, I haven't had either one of them for many years. Those were the only two album covers I ever did. I never was really a commercial artist - instead I showed in galleries. I occasionally get emails from people asking about prints or posters from the album covers, but I have never reproduced either one of them in any form. The copyright was actually held by the record company in those days." From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Dec 23 04:07:35 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:07:35 +0000 Subject: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:06:39AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 06:18 , Edmund Clout wrote: > >American band, Clutch, who'd been in Glasgow the night before went > >on cold and were ace, reallly hard southern blues based rock. > Clutch are veteran tourers and a great band! I was very sorry not to be able to make that gig, the line-up was pretty inarguable, but so was their over-18s policy and I had care of the child that weekend. That makes the organisers officially less broad-minded than the Hells Angels; the last time said child saw Clutch was at one of their festivals... But, yes, Clutch are amazing, and very few bands can have as long a string of consistently good albums under their belt; Mot?rhead, the Bevis Frond... but few others. If you liked what you saw live I very much recommend getting hold of _Pure Rock Fury_ and then exploring from there. Their lyrics are full of weirdness and prophecy and their rhythm section full of swing. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Dec 23 13:53:38 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:53:38 +0000 Subject: OFF: Rasta Santa by NAZZ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My friend Stewkey and his band NAZZ just came out with a new Christmas song for this year. It's called 'Rasta Santa'.. Check it out at: http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkey Peace, Mike Burro > Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:00:07 -0500> From: LISTSERV at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> Subject: BOC-L Digest - 22 Dec 2008 to 23 Dec 2008 (#2008-311)> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > There are 2 messages totalling 69 lines in this issue.> > Topics of the day:> > 1. BOC: Agents of Fortune cover art anecdote.> 2. Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs)> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:26:35 -0500> From: Jason Scruton > Subject: BOC: Agents of Fortune cover art anecdote.> > From Black-sabbath.com, Lynn Curlee had this to say about Agents of Fortune> and Heaven and Hell:> > "Yep I did the HEAVEN AND HELL cover painting. I had done AGENTS OF> FORTUNE, specifically for BLUE OYSTER CULT in 1976. The band had seen a> show of my paintings in NYC where I lived at the time, and they> commissioned the magician holding tarot cards (the image was my idea) for> their cover. Then a few years later, I had moved to L.A. and I got a call> from the management of BLACK SABBATH. As I recall, the two bands had the> same management or agent or something. They had a new album and the cover> art wasn't working out so they were in a jam. So they asked if I had> something suitable. I had already painted the SMOKING ANGELS as a gallery> painting. and they chose it for their cover. You may be interested to know> that in the original painting the angel on the right side had a complete> wing that was cropped to fit the album cover.> > "Both paintings are long gone, I think they were purchased directly from me> by band members, although it was a long long time ago and I don't have good> financial records from those days. Someone else might have bought either> painting. In any event, I haven't had either one of them for many years.> Those were the only two album covers I ever did. I never was really a> commercial artist - instead I showed in galleries. I occasionally get> emails from people asking about prints or posters from the album covers,> but I have never reproduced either one of them in any form. The copyright> was actually held by the record company in those days."> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:07:35 +0000> From: Jonathan Jarrett > Subject: Re: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs)> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:06:39AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out:> > On 10 Dec 2008, at 06:18 , Edmund Clout wrote:> > >American band, Clutch, who'd been in Glasgow the night before went > > >on cold and were ace, reallly hard southern blues based rock.> > Clutch are veteran tourers and a great band!> > I was very sorry not to be able to make that gig, the line-up > was pretty inarguable, but so was their over-18s policy and I had care > of the child that weekend. That makes the organisers officially less > broad-minded than the Hells Angels; the last time said child saw Clutch > was at one of their festivals...> > But, yes, Clutch are amazing, and very few bands can have as > long a string of consistently good albums under their belt; Mot?rhead, > the Bevis Frond... but few others. If you liked what you saw live I very > much recommend getting hold of _Pure Rock Fury_ and then exploring from > there. Their lyrics are full of weirdness and prophecy and their > rhythm section full of swing. Yours,> Jon> > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > ------------------------------> > End of BOC-L Digest - 22 Dec 2008 to 23 Dec 2008 (#2008-311)> ************************************************************ _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Dec 24 04:08:12 2008 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:08:12 +0100 Subject: HW More 2009 Tour dates Message-ID: http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/tour%20dates.htm From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Dec 24 10:58:10 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 15:58:10 +0000 Subject: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs) Message-ID: I had a girfriend when I was living in New Jersey, around 1994 who played Clutch "Bacchanalia" in the car (a Ford Saturn) She was a huge metalhead, Danzig, Cro-Mags and Flotsam And Jetsam were her fave bands. Dear god, all i do is remember her ,its torturous having to jerk off so much. But she liked Clutch! Happy Christmas & New Year! Christian ________________________________ From: Jonathan Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 10:07:35 Subject: Re: Hard Rock Hell (was Re: PAL and NTSC on DVDs) On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 07:06:39AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > On 10 Dec 2008, at 06:18 , Edmund Clout wrote: > >American band, Clutch, who'd been in Glasgow the night before went > >on cold and were ace, reallly hard southern blues based rock. > Clutch are veteran tourers and a great band! I was very sorry not to be able to make that gig, the line-up was pretty inarguable, but so was their over-18s policy and I had care of the child that weekend. That makes the organisers officially less broad-minded than the Hells Angels; the last time said child saw Clutch was at one of their festivals... But, yes, Clutch are amazing, and very few bands can have as long a string of consistently good albums under their belt; Mot?rhead, the Bevis Frond... but few others. If you liked what you saw live I very much recommend getting hold of _Pure Rock Fury_ and then exploring from there. Their lyrics are full of weirdness and prophecy and their rhythm section full of swing. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 24 17:03:23 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:03:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: No reason, I just love this video: Message-ID: CAUTIONARY TALES OF SWORDS #3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0X40l_VsVM Brian Eno and Yngwei Malmmstein are in the soundtrack. That qualifies it enough. -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Dec 25 02:36:21 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 07:36:21 +0000 Subject: Merry Christmas Message-ID: Hi everyone, Have a great Christmas. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Dec 25 04:27:00 2008 From: pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET (Pam & Cliff) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:27:00 -0700 Subject: Happy Holidays! Message-ID: A happy Holiday to each and all, and wishes for a profitable and fun new year! Pam Boise Id. Usa From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Thu Dec 25 05:19:57 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:19:57 +0100 Subject: Season greetings Message-ID: Well, the season greetings tree has once again produced some flowers, so: Happy X-Mas and a Merry New Year. Have a nice one, y'all. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From kruch7 at COX.NET Thu Dec 25 05:29:31 2008 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Joseph Elric Smith) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:29:31 -0500 Subject: Happy Christmas Message-ID: Happy Christmas, to us all. May we enjoy the spirit and the peace of this Christmas season Ken Maggie and Linda Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you Slice N Dice: Game and Pizza Parlour WWBYD What would Brigham Young do ? Blog http://www.aeonity.com/arioch http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1863 - Release Date: 12/24/2008 11:49 AM From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Dec 26 20:28:35 2008 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:28:35 -0500 Subject: BOC: Agents of Fortune cover art anecdote. In-Reply-To: <1b9110812895279fa77ff828a27b8320@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: > From Black-sabbath.com, Lynn Curlee had this to say about Agents of > Fortune > and Heaven and Hell: Hmmm. The AoF cover is suitably mysterious and all, but give me a high quality poster of the Tyranny & Mutation cover art any day...or the 1975 tour logo with the ME262. Brian OBAlbumTrack> Teen Archer From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Fri Dec 26 20:40:08 2008 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:40:08 -0500 Subject: BOC: Agents of Fortune cover art anecdote. In-Reply-To: <54684.69.207.161.191.1230341315.squirrel@webmail1.web.com> Message-ID: 2nded! Eric On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:28:35 -0500, blackblade wrote: >> From Black-sabbath.com, Lynn Curlee had this to say about Agents of >> Fortune >> and Heaven and Hell: > > Hmmm. The AoF cover is suitably mysterious and all, but give me a high > quality poster of the Tyranny & Mutation cover art any day...or the 1975 > tour logo with the ME262. > > Brian > > OBAlbumTrack> Teen Archer -- --Eric ------------ "It's strange how the simple things in life go on while we become more difficult." --Richard Brautigan From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Dec 27 09:36:21 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:36:21 +0000 Subject: Return to form In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 07:09:09AM -0500, Martin Hutchby typed out: > Whose idea is it to start gigs at 8pm tho ? Rock City never used to start > before 9 and often as late as 10, hence missing the first 15 mins as a result > of having "just one more" in the Tap 'n' Tumbler. By analogy with the Astoria, my guess would be they had a club night going on afterwards... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Dec 26 12:59:28 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:59:28 +0000 Subject: Season greetings Message-ID: well those dutch have smokable trees eh?? merriment indeed, to a friend in need............ smoking tha.-------- Christian ________________________________ From: Arjan Hulsebos To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 25 December, 2008 11:19:57 Subject: Season greetings Well, the season greetings tree has once again produced some flowers, so: Happy X-Mas and a Merry New Year. Have a nice one, y'all. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Dec 28 19:35:38 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:35:38 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Direct (San Diego 89 Xenomorph) Message-ID: Hi Scott + all I have done a little sleuthing into my personal stash, but I want to preface with a disclaimer: in the past and now included, the only way I have ever been able to truly enjoy live tapes is if somebody put them on CDR with artwork. While I am guilty of grabbing anything with the word Hawkwind, I am certainly not guilty of trading or spreading anything unofficial. Hawkwind had total access to my life via Douglas Smith during my stint selling a few items when they were harder to get stateside....... I just investigated 2 CDRS in my collection which claim to be the San Diego October 12 89 show. The first, called the "Hawklog Master Series, "Heads" Vol 12", had a run of 75 copies, and is a single cdr. The second, called "San Diego 89", is a double CDR on a label titled "Smashing Rocks" Mary Bruce helped me to define these both contain the Minneapolis show. I would like to know if anybody out there could tell me how the quality on these compares with the now officially released version, and further if there are other hijinxed CDRS about....... No drunkTexan?? it ain't San Diego On 11/26/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > hello > > Interesting that these really good soundboard recordings (Reading 1992) and > Minneapolis 1989 are coming out officially. Both are excellent shows. It is > highly unlikely that the minneapolis is from Chris Bruce's master recording. > I made a cassette copy directly from the master at his apartment in > Cambridge back in 1994. I am not sure how many people he made direct copies > for but a few for sure. Only 1 person on this list got my copy. > > Great show... > > I would love to see a decent quality DVD released from the 1992 UK tour as > the light show was amazing and these small teepee's the band members were > in, etc.. You could probably sync up the audio from Reading 1992 as all the > music on this tour was more or less sequenced due to the band being a three > piece. Great tour.. wish I had seen it live... > > scott > > ObLP- Ozric Tentacles- Erpland > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Dec 28 19:43:29 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 18:43:29 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Direct (San Diego 89 Xenomorph) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812281635l67258102j4f5d5678d24f6a9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: oops, they are both 2CDRS, there is a 12B on the Hawklog version.... On 12/28/08, mike coleman wrote: > > Hi Scott + all > I have done a little sleuthing into my personal stash, but I want to > preface with a disclaimer: > in the past and now included, the only way I have ever been able to truly > enjoy live tapes is if somebody put them on CDR with artwork. While I am > guilty of grabbing anything with the word Hawkwind, I am certainly not > guilty of trading or spreading anything unofficial. Hawkwind had total > access to my life via Douglas Smith during my stint selling a few items when > they were harder to get stateside....... > I just investigated 2 CDRS in my collection which claim to be the San Diego > October 12 89 show. The first, called the "Hawklog Master Series, "Heads" > Vol 12", had a run of 75 copies, and is a single cdr. The second, called > "San Diego 89", is a double CDR on a label titled "Smashing Rocks" > Mary Bruce helped me to define these both contain the Minneapolis show. > I would like to know if anybody out there could tell me how the quality on > these compares with the now officially released version, and further if > there are other hijinxed CDRS about....... > No drunkTexan?? it ain't San Diego > > On 11/26/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: >> >> hello >> >> Interesting that these really good soundboard recordings (Reading 1992) >> and Minneapolis 1989 are coming out officially. Both are excellent shows. It >> is highly unlikely that the minneapolis is from Chris Bruce's master >> recording. I made a cassette copy directly from the master at his apartment >> in Cambridge back in 1994. I am not sure how many people he made direct >> copies for but a few for sure. Only 1 person on this list got my copy. >> >> Great show... >> >> I would love to see a decent quality DVD released from the 1992 UK tour as >> the light show was amazing and these small teepee's the band members were >> in, etc.. You could probably sync up the audio from Reading 1992 as all the >> music on this tour was more or less sequenced due to the band being a three >> piece. Great tour.. wish I had seen it live... >> >> scott >> >> ObLP- Ozric Tentacles- Erpland >> > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Dec 29 09:17:56 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 06:17:56 -0800 Subject: Fw: [Up-Tight] How To Buy...Hawkwind! Message-ID: ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Telstar To: Up-tight at yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:13:14 AM Subject: [Up-Tight] How To Buy...Hawkwind! "The band?s roots lie not in the Summer Of Love, but in the volatile? freak scene that coalesced around London?s Portobello and Ladbroke? Grove in 1968. There, the convergence of cheap drugs, free sex, art,? literature and music created a politically-charged counter-culture of? which Hawkwind became the house band, developing their pioneering? brand of groove-led space rock and a radical world-view to match." http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2008/12/how_to_buyhawkwind.html Al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: ? ? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Up-Tight/ <*> Your email settings: ? ? Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: ? ? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Up-Tight/join ? ? (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: ? ? mailto:Up-Tight-digest at yahoogroups.com ? ? mailto:Up-Tight-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ? ? Up-Tight-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: ? ? http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Dec 30 12:55:31 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:55:31 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Christmas CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 04:21:51PM +0000, Steve Freight typed out: > The 2nd CD (and one I did not have) is the sampler mentioned a couple of > years ago I think with tracks from Bedouin / Brock / Langton and Blake. Oh, is that the one that they were giving away to ticket-holders from the Forum gig those years ago? I'm glad that's still around, if I can actually make any of the dates they've got coming up this time that's a collection gap I can plug. Yours, Jon Ob2LP: Bevis Frond - _Son of Walter_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 30 13:53:10 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:53:10 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Christmas CD In-Reply-To: <20081230175531.GF12607@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: It's the same as this but mine does not have a cover - Is this home made or did it originally come with a sleeve? Steve On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Jonathan Jarrett < jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > Oh, is that the one that they were giving away to ticket-holders > from the Forum gig those years ago? I'm glad that's still around, if I > can actually make any of the dates they've got coming up this time > that's a collection gap I can plug. Yours, > Jon > > Ob2LP: Bevis Frond - _Son of Walter_ > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 30 13:53:44 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:53:44 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Christmas CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oops link here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hawkwind-Christmas-2002-EP-Rare-and-Deleted_W0QQitemZ330296950464QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL?hash=item330296950464&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Steve Freight wrote: > It's the same as this but mine does not have a cover - Is this home made or > did it originally come with a sleeve? > > Steve > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Jonathan Jarrett < > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > >> Oh, is that the one that they were giving away to ticket-holders >> from the Forum gig those years ago? I'm glad that's still around, if I >> can actually make any of the dates they've got coming up this time >> that's a collection gap I can plug. Yours, >> Jon >> >> Ob2LP: Bevis Frond - _Son of Walter_ >> -- >> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Dec 30 13:58:21 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:58:21 +0000 Subject: NIK: Re: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812171158g63c73443h7072cc38f17b0c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:58:08PM -0600, mike coleman typed out: > next, I popped in a copy of Sonic Attack 2001 yesterday, and it was having > problems in my new player, then another copy, same thing which were left > over stock, and now I am playing my personal copy which always worked > hmmm (this seems to be OK) > the sound on this CD is awesome.....recommended to anybody lacking it It is a damn good CD, but it's worth mentioning that most of it is on other CDs too, the first Anubian Lights, _Space Ritual 1994_ and so on. However, the stuff that *isn't*, including two remixes of the Grenas-Fox-Turner _Sphynx_ material and a *storming* rehearsal take of `You Shouldn't Do That' with Grenas on bass (I once saw Carl Anderson try to play along to this and have to up his ante quite rapidly as he realised how fast it was going) make it worth hunting down anyway. And anyway, how many copies of `Grid Co-Ordinate: Vorp 9' would be too many, eh? Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Dec 30 14:11:18 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:11:18 +0000 Subject: HW: Re: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <17d80c610812171346s75c12896jf28b7337e61fe9c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 03:46:35PM -0600, mike coleman typed out: > I can say that when a friend brought up Nik in the past, Lemmy shut him down > in an instant....maybe Nik told him he should stop taking speed.... > but enough a my yakin'..... I think there is basis for thinking that Lemmy doesn't really see any need to deal with Nik. The piece of this evidence that's always stuck with me is an interview with Lemmy that was done in the wake of the Hawkestra, when Lemmy was decidedly uncharitable about Dave's guitar playing these days and complained about doing the songs as a `medley'. I think it was also in that interview, and if not that one one at a similar time, where the interviewer asked how he got on with Nik these days, since Nik had basically got him fired, and Lemmy's answer was only, "He just rang me up and apologised for that the other day, you know". No further details, just this implication that Lemmy had been waiting for that since 1975! I admire his score-keeping. Andy Gilham lent me his copy of _White Line Fever_, in fact, and that's my current bedtime reading. Lemmy's story-telling is one of his undersung skills, but from a man who likes to talk like that, I think a short answer probably tells us something... The other thing that has often struck me about this is that when it comes to looking back on the glorious early seventies Hawkwind, Nik and Lemmy are at opposite ends of the spectrum of memory. Nik's interviews always make it sound like one friendly commune giving out joy tickets to everyone they came near and Playing for the People Man, and this is the `spirit of Hawkwind' he invokes now when he thinks Dave's being an arsehole over the name and so on. Lemmy's version seems directly built to steamroller that and always goes on about Dik Mik using his audio generator to try and make trippers go into spasms and generally the band being about messing people up. You have to figure that both of them are remembering the Hawkwind they want to have been part of, but equally, if those ideologies were similar then, you can see how the two of them getting along must have been difficult. To say nothing of their *musical* ideologies, Lemmy the ultimate professional mercenary bassist and Nik, well... So I find it hard to believe they get on now except out of necessity. And why does Lemmy need to? Nik was ringing him to apologise to make the Hawkestra possible, I imagine... All hypothetical but I like to play the game anyway. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Dec 30 15:31:40 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:31:40 -0500 Subject: NIK: Re: Space Ritual 2009 In-Reply-To: <20081230185821.GH12607@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 30 Dec 2008, at 13:58 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > *storming* rehearsal take of > `You Shouldn't Do That' with Grenas on bass (I once saw Carl Anderson > try to play along to this and have to up his ante quite rapidly as he > realised how fast it was going) Heh, I'd forgotten that! It is quite brisk. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Dec 31 09:45:22 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:45:22 +0000 Subject: HW: recent tour In-Reply-To: <8CB300C8563ACA2-CB4-94B@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:18:11AM -0500, iainferguson at AOL.COM typed out: > Also the 2nd half of Utopia, wasn't that brand new as well, or was I cosmically bewildered at the time... > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Bishop > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 8:06 > Subject: Re: HW: recent tour > > New stuff (Wraith and Sentinels) definitely new stuff and definitely quality > stuff ...................... not sure that Niall would have had time yet to > have any input into this but definitely got the inference that Dibs had. My recollection is sketchy, but from what I can piece together from my review of last year's Astoria gig, Dibs had added new words to `Arrival in Utopia' even then, and they'd stuffed an instrumental chunk of `Deathtrap' into the break. I can believe Dibs has expanded his contribution since then. Gotta say it's really good to gather that the new boy is getting to try out songs and play with the old stuff, and it works. I wish I'd been free to actually *see* them this tour. They'll probably have a different line-up by the spring... Yours, Jon ObCD: Presidents of the United States of America - _Presidents of the United States of America_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 31 10:25:38 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:25:38 +0000 Subject: Chrsitmas CD's on E-bay Message-ID: Amazed that these 2 discs are currently at ?10.50 and ?17.50 when they are on sale at concerts for ?5 each - possibly people can't get to a gig to get them but even so... Steve Seasons Greetings http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hawkwind-Seasons-Greetings-From-Deep-Space_W0QQitemZ330296949537QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL?hash=item330296949537&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1297%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 2nd annual party http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hawkwind-Christmas-2002-EP-Rare-and-Deleted_W0QQitemZ330296950464QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CDsDVDs_CDs_CDs_GL?hash=item330296950464&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1297%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Dec 31 11:37:21 2008 From: pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET (Pam & Cliff) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:37:21 -0700 Subject: NYE Message-ID: Have a great new years eve. folks!!! I'm looking forward to a long, profitable night!!! Wheee!! Have fun & be safe, please. Pam From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Dec 31 12:50:27 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:50:27 -0500 Subject: NYE In-Reply-To: <495B9FC1.20405@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Same to you, Pam, and drive safely. For some reason, the authorities won't give me a license to drive, I don't know why? I hope you get a lot of big tips, and don't have to deal with too many folks who are a bit too tipsy for their own good. I suppose it's all in a day's work? Have a prosperous evening, and a better year ahead. All the best, Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Pam & Cliff Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:37 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: NYE Have a great new years eve. folks!!! I'm looking forward to a long, profitable night!!! Wheee!! Have fun & be safe, please. Pam From pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Dec 31 13:35:32 2008 From: pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET (Pam & Cliff) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:35:32 -0700 Subject: NYE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks, Mary!! This is the profitable night from hell for me. Most folks are pretty happy, which helps alot. Kerb Crawler mode in force tonite!!! I've just set up a 250 song playlist in albums on my iPod, so tunes are set, and I'm ready ro rock!!! Have fun Pam Mary Sullivan wrote: > Same to you, Pam, and drive safely. For some reason, the authorities won't > give me a license to drive, I don't know why? I hope you get a lot of big > tips, and don't have to deal with too many folks who are a bit too tipsy for > their own good. I suppose it's all in a day's work? Have a prosperous > evening, and a better year ahead. > > All the best, > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Pam & Cliff > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:37 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: NYE > > > Have a great new years eve. folks!!! I'm looking forward to a long, > profitable night!!! > Wheee!! Have fun & be safe, please. > Pam > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: 12/31/2008 8:44 AM > >