From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 1 05:21:30 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:21:30 +0100 Subject: HW: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 07:30:43PM -0400, Mary Sullivan typed out: > Do you have any links, or copies of interviews with Lemmy dealing with the > psychoacoustics > they played with back then. Dave is certainly a master at inducing certain > states through sound. You may not be into them, but The Dead were into that > sort of thing, too, and the subject has always fascinated me. Hi Mary, I'm sorry, but a brief play with Google and a search of the BOC-L archives doesn't turn up any actual links. From the look of this, though, Lemmy was telling this tale to the Sunday Times in 2000: http://listserv.ispnetinc.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0009C&L=BOC-L&P=R4660 Everything else is dead links, expired domains or insufficient record I'm afraid. But, if it helps, Scott Heller did an interview with him for _Aural Innovations_ back in 2000 which is online as audio, RealAudio here: http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue14/lemmy01.ram and MP3 here: http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue14/lemmy01.mp3 Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 1 09:03:17 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:17 EDT Subject: HW: Calvert memorial Gig Message-ID: Bring some books with you :-) Steve. In a message dated 27/07/2008 11:28:40 GMT Standard Time, ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK writes: Possibly! Trying to work out finances and stuff! From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 1 09:13:07 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:13:07 +0000 Subject: what i need in a trade :-) Message-ID: I watched GAH every week when it was on TV here in Norway...... same with Cosmos - I also had a fondness for Culp for some reason. GAH is probably my #1 all time 'nostalgia' program,....... Havent seen it on TV since the mid 80s......... C. ----- Original Message ---- From: gary shindler To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 31 July, 2008 9:41:43 PM Subject: Re: what i need in a trade :-) I was a fan of "GAH" when it was on. Robert Culp was a badass. I remember one of those erotic thriller movies with William Katt and Shannon Tweed. Dave Thomas did a Carl Sagan impersonation on "SCTV" which I'm more familiar with than "Cosmos." Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:48:50 AM Subject: what i need in a trade :-) http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-American-Hero-Complete-Notebook/ http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-American-Hero-Complete-Notebook/dp/B000GRUR4G http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Carl-Sagan-DVD-Set/dp/B000055ZOB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1217515531&sr=1-1 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 1 11:47:49 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:47:49 -0500 Subject: HW: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20080801092129.GG8279@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 8/1/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote >>> Hi Mary, I'm sorry, but a brief play with Google and a search of the BOC-L archives doesn't turn up any actual links. From the look of this, though, Lemmy was telling this tale to the Sunday Times in 2000: http://listserv.ispnetinc.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0009C&L=BOC-L&P=R4660>>>> *Hey wait a minute.....I'm not fully awake but wasn't the last part Genesis P Orridge n' companies old trick???* From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Aug 1 19:42:34 2008 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:42:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: the reaper by way of the CBS late night orchestra In-Reply-To: <200807220421.m6M4LQZY024517@outbound2.logical.net> Message-ID: There's an iPhone app based on the skit, where Christopher Walken says "I need more cowbell!" and you tap the screen to play the bell. If that's not a reason to spend hundreds of dollars on a cellphone, I don't know what is. ;-) I've got a fever, Brian > Will Farrell's walk-on music was a version of (Don't Fear) the Reaper > in what seemed to be a different key and the horns taking the vocal > lines of the verse. > > cobwell fever, > Jason. > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 1 16:23:24 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:23:24 +0000 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question Message-ID: yes i have the Die Losung. thanks for the info Keith..... of course Experimente must have been the first AD..... and btw, Mike...... how to send You, the coal meister 60 dollars......... if i can get opened my Paypal access somehow!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ---- From: Keith Henderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 31 July, 2008 10:12:44 PM Subject: Re: Off: AMON DUUL question CM asks... > they are so obscure and are now being remastered. these are > the other ADUK ones on my wantlist: > > Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (CD) This was the last one I think...from what I remember, not so interesting. I assume it is still Anderson at the helm, but IIRC Weinzierl didn't even participate on this one...another bunch of friends and relations of the Demi Monde studio family...I think Gavin Griffiths, early Ozric member, appears on this one. Maybe Joie too? And a bunch of "Who?" > Amon D??l (UK) - Meeting With Menmachines (CD) I don't have the CD, but I used to own the vinyl, which had a similar title (longer...MWM Inglorious Heroes of the Past or something). With Ms. Waring on vocals...mostly lousy poppy tunes with her, um, interesting voice. I mean, she's pretty annoying. > Amon D??l (UK) - Experimente (CD) This is a pre-1970 Amon Duul (I) release I believe...not an AD-UK one at all. Correct me if I am wrong. > Amon D??l (UK) - Airs On A Shoestring (CD) This is another Anderson/Weinzierl/Evans/Waring CD, but mostly a compilation of stuff from HMP and MWM. But it contains the cool long improv track from HMP ("something...two pints of blood" or whatever it is) with Waring only doing "space whisper" (so she's not so annoying here), and a similar long improv piece (quite interesting) "Olaf, where's my $20,000?" which I think is exclusive to this release. So I would recommend finding just this one, and forgetting these other three AD-UK CDs (well, assuming you already have the Calvert one). These two tracks are the only interesting things they did with Waring IMHO...mostly because she just kept her mouth shut for the most part. :) Grakkl (Bornich, Rheinland-Pfalz) __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 1 18:44:35 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 22:44:35 +0000 Subject: HW: Trade? (hehe SPAM?) Message-ID: hey all, i need to get rid of some things and i cannot auction on Ebay cause my Paypal is shut down (which means i can forget about "Four Track Mind Vol. 4" and the Gunslinger teeshirt I wanted! I offer the Hawkwind tribute CD for that CDR and teeshirt. Take a look below, i also have a wantlist. Nothing below is of great value other than the AoS/HWV CD which is scarce. Church of Hed - s/t (Quarkspace spinoff) (sealed new CD) Hawkwind - Live From The Darkside (Yuri Gagarin show in digipak CD) (slight water damage on digi) Hawkwind - Assassins Of Silence/Hundred Watt Violence (sealed new Hawkwind tribute CD, seen it go for 75$) Marillion - Brave CDR (its not the real disc, its just from The Pirate Bay and cover art from an archive on the web, so you get this Marillion CDR for 1 dollar) Motorpsycho - It's A Love Cult (CD) (new unused, norwegian psych 2002) Quarkspace - Spacefolds 5 CD no cover art Quarkspace - Spacefolds 7 CD (sealed new) Quarkspace & Matt Howarth - Node In Peril (CD and Comic book in sealed new digipak) The Sweet - Blockbuster! compilation (barely used, like new) Nik Turner - The Prophets of Time (Cleopatra CD) (small deletion hole on bar code) PS: if anyone can pay me in 60 USD cash cause i owe Mike C 60 bucks, make me an offer for anything or give me your outbox / trade list, whatever. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 1 21:39:27 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 01:39:27 +0000 Subject: OFF: Hawkwind X 2 MK. XXVII & Amon Drool 007 at the ZOO Message-ID: why and how Hawkwind is so goddamn cool: why True Sounds of Liberty and the pursuit of multiple groups called the same, Hawkwind, probably complications related to Christian Death........ THE POINT: Like Hawkwind and Amon D??l , TSOL and Chr. Death were two or even 3 diff. bands touring and releasing records under the same name. Now those bands are always the coolest. They all put out cheesy CDs on Cleopatra. Like Nik's usage of the Hawkwind name on USA tours, TSOL and Christian Death did the same. DOES IT MEAN HAWKWIND and AMON D??L were the first anarchyzombiegothdeathrockers.............. Monarchy in The U.K. I wanna destroy Mossad Bikers....... here is my TSOL collection. I used to be the main cool Menudo collector in alt.punk now I em em emi nem mmmmmm yum yum.in the USA christian true sounds of liberty VS christian death chr. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 1 22:41:58 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 02:41:58 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: PT interested folk, an off observation for BOC-l: the demo version of this Porcupine Tree song is totally different in lyrics then what appeared on "Stupid Dream" - its really cool how its totally opposite meanings and last minute changes to totally diff. lyrics. Too tired to type ALL them out but its really cool how they differ so much.- the first is about innocent Jesus and praying to God and a killer striking twice in a night, no mention of a Friend I cannot reach or being a martyr, for the grace of god for even less. Great song both versions! I enjoy how they are totally different. The demo is a must hear, its very negative. I also love "Piano Lessons" lyrics. reagards c. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 2 01:08:56 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:56 -0500 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question In-Reply-To: <671951.95151.qm@web23001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Don't get noided, fight it, just fight it.....the Gong trilogy for instance, might never have come about..... On 8/1/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > yes i have the Die Losung. thanks for the info Keith..... of course > Experimente must have been the first AD..... > > and btw, Mike...... how to send You, the coal meister 60 dollars......... > if i can get opened my Paypal access somehow!!!!!!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Keith Henderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, 31 July, 2008 10:12:44 PM > Subject: Re: Off: AMON DUUL question > > CM asks... > > > they are so obscure and are now being remastered. these are > > the other ADUK ones on my wantlist: > > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (CD) > > This was the last one I think...from what I remember, not so > interesting. I assume it is still Anderson at the helm, but IIRC Weinzierl > didn't even participate on this one...another bunch of friends and relations > of the Demi Monde studio family...I think Gavin Griffiths, early Ozric > member, appears on this one. Maybe Joie too? And a bunch of "Who?" > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Meeting With Menmachines (CD) > > I don't have the CD, but I used to own the vinyl, which had a similar title > (longer...MWM Inglorious Heroes of the Past or something). With Ms. Waring > on vocals...mostly lousy poppy tunes with her, um, interesting voice. I > mean, she's pretty annoying. > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Experimente (CD) > > This is a pre-1970 Amon Duul (I) release I believe...not an AD-UK one at > all. Correct me if I am wrong. > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Airs On A Shoestring (CD) > > This is another Anderson/Weinzierl/Evans/Waring CD, but mostly a > compilation of stuff from HMP and MWM. But it contains the cool long improv > track from HMP ("something...two pints of blood" or whatever it is) with > Waring only doing "space whisper" (so she's not so annoying here), and a > similar long improv piece (quite interesting) "Olaf, where's my $20,000?" > which I think is exclusive to this release. So I would recommend finding > just this one, and forgetting these other three AD-UK CDs (well, assuming > you already have the Calvert one). These two tracks are the only > interesting things they did with Waring IMHO...mostly because she just kept > her mouth shut for the most part. :) > > Grakkl (Bornich, Rheinland-Pfalz) > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 2 03:44:31 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:44:31 +0100 Subject: Knights of Space DVD Message-ID: HMV just written to me - It's on its way! Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 2 03:53:50 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:53:50 +0100 Subject: Wierd 108 - Stafarers Message-ID: Just been browsing Starfarers site and read Weird 108 review where I am name checked on the sleeve. http://www.starfarer.net/weird108.html Thought I'd let you know why I am there. At the launch party I spoke to Dave Brock and Rob Ayling and asked why this disc had never been released. Dave said it was down to Rob and Rob said he knew nothing about it. I think Dave didn't want to get involved in any discussion on this and left. Rob and I continued talking and I said that fans thought this was to be the bonus disc under the collectors series and not a mispressed Space Brock. Rob said that no decision was ever taken on the bonus disc and Space Brock just happened to be handy. I said I would write to Rob re Weird 8 and sent him a CD transfer I had done from the cassette. I believe that Dave supplied the master tapes for transfer and tidy-up. Maybe Nick Loebner did supply tapes or can update on his name check. I'm on the sleeve for having suggested the release. Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Sat Aug 2 06:56:39 2008 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (SickthingsUK) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:56:39 +0100 Subject: Knights of Space DVD Message-ID: Subject: Knights of Space DVD > HMV just written to me - It's on its way! My DVD arrived this morning from Play.com. Not played it yet, but rather dissapointed it is NOT a 2 disc set as advertised, nor does it include the 8 page booklet again as advertised. Is everyone else's the same or is something missing from mine? From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Aug 2 01:49:32 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 05:49:32 +0000 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question Message-ID: benoit on marimbas might think he is the chosen son of pierre......... bon lozaga might never have founded gongzilla.......... god bless gong :-) ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, 2 August, 2008 7:08:56 AM Subject: Re: Off: AMON DUUL question Don't get noided, fight it, just fight it.....the Gong trilogy for instance, might never have come about..... On 8/1/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > yes i have the Die Losung. thanks for the info Keith..... of course > Experimente must have been the first AD..... > > and btw, Mike...... how to send You, the coal meister 60 dollars......... > if i can get opened my Paypal access somehow!!!!!!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Keith Henderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Thursday, 31 July, 2008 10:12:44 PM > Subject: Re: Off: AMON DUUL question > > CM asks... > > > they are so obscure and are now being remastered. these are > > the other ADUK ones on my wantlist: > > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (CD) > > This was the last one I think...from what I remember, not so > interesting. I assume it is still Anderson at the helm, but IIRC Weinzierl > didn't even participate on this one...another bunch of friends and relations > of the Demi Monde studio family...I think Gavin Griffiths, early Ozric > member, appears on this one. Maybe Joie too? And a bunch of "Who?" > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Meeting With Menmachines (CD) > > I don't have the CD, but I used to own the vinyl, which had a similar title > (longer...MWM Inglorious Heroes of the Past or something). With Ms. Waring > on vocals...mostly lousy poppy tunes with her, um, interesting voice. I > mean, she's pretty annoying. > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Experimente (CD) > > This is a pre-1970 Amon Duul (I) release I believe...not an AD-UK one at > all. Correct me if I am wrong. > > > Amon D??l (UK) - Airs On A Shoestring (CD) > > This is another Anderson/Weinzierl/Evans/Waring CD, but mostly a > compilation of stuff from HMP and MWM. But it contains the cool long improv > track from HMP ("something...two pints of blood" or whatever it is) with > Waring only doing "space whisper" (so she's not so annoying here), and a > similar long improv piece (quite interesting) "Olaf, where's my $20,000?" > which I think is exclusive to this release. So I would recommend finding > just this one, and forgetting these other three AD-UK CDs (well, assuming > you already have the Calvert one). These two tracks are the only > interesting things they did with Waring IMHO...mostly because she just kept > her mouth shut for the most part. :) > > Grakkl (Bornich, Rheinland-Pfalz) > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Aug 3 05:49:23 2008 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:49:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Hawkfest 2008 photos Message-ID: Hi folks, I have stuck up a new bunch of photos of the Hawkwind performance on 26/07/08. They're on www.tangledwoof.com Then follow the link. Enjoy... Cheers Alan p.s. There's more to go on, but they'll be random other bands and stuff. From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Aug 3 09:56:25 2008 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:56:25 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Hawkfest 2008 photos In-Reply-To: <48957F23.7050608@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Thanks Alan. This is the first Hawkfest we couldn't make, so it's great to see the photos. Rich Alan Taylor wrote: > Hi folks, I have stuck up a new bunch of photos of the Hawkwind > performance on 26/07/08. They're on > > www.tangledwoof.com > > Then follow the link. > > Enjoy... > > Cheers > Alan > > p.s. There's more to go on, but they'll be random other bands and stuff. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Aug 3 14:26:34 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:26:34 -0500 Subject: Nik Turner "Pyramid Power" mega-rare 45 enquiry, visionary head?? Message-ID: *well, maybe 20 really is plenty??* *as I was careening through some eBay material I had to do a double-take at this single on offer* *"project pounce" went straight into effect, I had no clue Jim Collins had this, much less for sale, and stranger that it originated from me????* *anyway, I seem to recall "Pyramid Power" mix, but cannot recall any more details.....I seem to recall mine listed the tracks on the label (hand written?)* *but it all washes into a fog after that* *this copy is 15 of 20 and lists "Force Majeure" but not the tracks* *so info as to what it is again (shame on me) appreciated....* *the "green meteor" on the edge of 1994 must still be throwing off sparks......* From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Aug 3 22:15:15 2008 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:15:15 EDT Subject: HW: Hawkwind Hawkfest 2008 photos Message-ID: In a message dated 8/3/2008 5:27:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: www.tangledwoof.com Great shots--thanks Al. bill s **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 4 08:01:56 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:01:56 +0100 Subject: HW: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:21:30 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 10:12:54 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:12:54 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Direct DVD's - DO NOT ORDER YET Message-ID: An update for you on these - DO NOT ORDER YET. I wrote to Rob Ayling of Voiceprint asking for an update on these and his reply is Hi Steve, indeed - long time . . . . This web site ISN'T officially OPEN - hence no one has heard anything . . . can't keep anything secret on the web can we ? Please advise everyone - existing orders will be honoured - bit please do NOT order until we post the news flash confirming the site is open. Make sense ? Rob 2008/8/4 steve freight wrote Hi Rob, Long time no speak - trust you are keeping well. Reason for the mail is to ask about the 3 DVD's under the Hawkwind Direct banner. I have ordered these but have not heard anything as yet, Are these pre-order (there is nothing on the site to suggest this) or is there a delay in sending these out? As you know I am on the HW discussion group and I know a few people have ordered but no one has received as yet. Hope you don't mind me contacting you direct on this. Regards, Steve Freight -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Aug 4 10:33:57 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:33:57 -0400 Subject: HW: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <200808041201.m74C1uxA003474@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: HI Mike, I have a gismo that sonicly repells mosquitoes, it's worked so far. That's cool, "Ironically there are stories of schoolkids using it as a ringtone"I think I'd notice it. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:02 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: TMTYL Jonathan Jarrett writes: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 07:30:43PM -0400, Mary Sullivan typed out: > > Do you have any links, or copies of interviews with Lemmy dealing with the > > psychoacoustics > > they played with back then. Dave is certainly a master at inducing certain > > states through sound. You may not be into them, but The Dead were into that > > sort of thing, too, and the subject has always fascinated me. > > Hi Mary, > I'm sorry, but a brief play with Google and a search of > the BOC-L archives doesn't turn up any actual links. From the look of > this, though, Lemmy was telling this tale to the Sunday Times in 2000: > > http://listserv.ispnetinc.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0009C&L=BOC-L&P=R4660 The real story is in sonic weaponry. There have been rumours of a crowd-dispersal device, possibly van-mounted, which bombards crowds with subsonics which cause a sense of panic and a need to escape the scene. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4857417 More concrete is a system used by ships to deter pirates off the coast of Africa. These use some sort of sonic array and are able to focus sound on the small boats used by the pirates. Again these can cause such discomfort as to force a retreat. http://www.forteantimes.com/features/commentary/110/sonic_weapons.html More mundane is the Mosquito, a high-frequency sound device used by British shopkeepers to deter teenagers from hanging around the shops. http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2006/04/04/mosquito_sound_wa ve_feature.shtml The idea is that the sound is so high-pitched that only kids can hear it. Ironically there are stories of schoolkids using it as a ringtone for their phones, that teachers can't hear. -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 12:20:10 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:20:10 -0400 Subject: HW: TMTYL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you have an ultrasonic humidifier, you can put your finger in the tank right where a focal point is above the transducer (metal disc on the bottom about 4cm wide), and if you're lucky you feel a really sharp pain. I wonder how conductive and dispersive the air is-- like if you could manage to get a narrow beam that would result in some good watts per square cm at the target. If so, could you modulate the ultrasound pain to produce a sensation of audible noise in someone's ear? Focussing it would be easy, the hang-up would be finding a really powerful transducer. That's hundreds of times higher than what's just beyond the range of hearing though. At lower ultrasound freqs you could set up a trap with a TV dish or something, at least being able to focus it on individuals at short range. On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Mary Sullivan < maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote: > HI Mike, > I have a gismo that sonicly repells mosquitoes, it's worked so far. That's > cool, "Ironically there are stories of schoolkids using it as a ringtone"I > think I'd notice it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:02 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: TMTYL > > > Jonathan Jarrett writes: > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 07:30:43PM -0400, Mary Sullivan typed out: > > > Do you have any links, or copies of interviews with Lemmy dealing with > the > > > psychoacoustics > > > they played with back then. Dave is certainly a master at inducing > certain > > > states through sound. You may not be into them, but The Dead were into > that > > > sort of thing, too, and the subject has always fascinated me. > > > > Hi Mary, > > I'm sorry, but a brief play with Google and a search of > > the BOC-L archives doesn't turn up any actual links. From the look of > > this, though, Lemmy was telling this tale to the Sunday Times in 2000: > > > > http://listserv.ispnetinc.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0009C&L=BOC-L&P=R4660 > > The real story is in sonic weaponry. There have been rumours of a > crowd-dispersal device, possibly van-mounted, which bombards crowds with > subsonics which cause a sense of panic and a need to escape the scene. > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4857417 > > More concrete is a system used by ships to deter pirates off the coast > of Africa. These use some sort of sonic array and are able to focus > sound on the small boats used by the pirates. Again these can cause such > discomfort as to force a retreat. > > http://www.forteantimes.com/features/commentary/110/sonic_weapons.html > > More mundane is the Mosquito, a high-frequency sound device used by > British shopkeepers to deter teenagers from hanging around the shops. > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2006/04/04/mosquito_sound_wa > ve_feature.shtml > > The idea is that the sound is so high-pitched that only kids can hear > it. Ironically there are stories of schoolkids using it as a ringtone > for their phones, that teachers can't hear. > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 13:32:54 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:32:54 +0100 Subject: RE VOICEPRINT DVD's FW: [Elist] Voiceprint August Newsletter Message-ID: So are they or are they not now available???????? Steve View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:55:32 +0100 To: elist at voiceprint.co.uk From: elist at voiceprint.co.uk Subject: [Elist] Voiceprint August Newsletter *ePrint From Voiceprint* *August 2008* Well here we are in the midst of the Summer Holidays and for those of you with youngsters who are forever complaining of being bored with nothing to do and basically being driven to distraction we have our usual mix of news and suggestions for your listening and viewing pleasure and something that will perhaps give you some respite from the little monsters!!! Lots of DVDs now available this month including Bill Bruford, All About Eve and Hawkwind. Time then to get off and prepare myself for the forthcoming interviews with Jefferson Starship and Quicksilver Messenger Service at the end of the month which will become forthcoming podcasts. Looks like it is going to be a fabulous August all told. Catch you in the autumn?.Which believe it or not is next month. * * *Forthcoming Attractions* * * *Bruford And The Beat DVD Now Available* *The material contained on this DVD was filmed in New York City and New Haven, Connecticut, USA in February and March 1982. As with so many things to do with Bruford, he was amongst the first to offer material to the then fledgling genre of drum instructional videos. 'Bruford and the Beat' features solos, interviews, demonstrations and rare performance footage of Bill with King Crimson, with guest appearances by Robert Fripp and Steve Howe. Both entertaining and educational, this visually rich programme will appeal to anyone interested in music but more importantly those who have followed the various twists and turns of Bill Bruford's lengthy career.* The DVD can be purchased from a dedicated website http://www.brufordandthebeatdvd.com/ Where you can watch a short low resolution clip from the DVD * * *Jefferson** Starship and Quicksilver Messenger Service Live* Those two stalwarts of the San Francisco Music Scene *Jefferson Starship*and *Quicksilver Messenger Service* arrive in the UK for a series of live dates in August. Please note that *Quicksilver Messenger Service* will be guests on selected dates and not throughout the tour. The dates are below*. * 1st Aug London, UK/ The 100 Club w/ JOHN FERENZIK, TONY MORLEY 8th Aug Inverness, Scotland/ Belladrum Festival w/ J. FERENZIK, TONY MORLEY 24th Aug Ross On Wye, UK/ Roots Festival w/ JEFF PEVAR, TONY MORLEY 26th Aug London, UK/ The 100 Club ***"Tree of Liberty" UK release party*** 27th Aug Bilston, UK/ Robin 2 QMS ONLY!!! 28th Aug Edinburgh, Scotland/ Edinburgh Festival w/ QMS, PEVAR, MORLEY 29th Aug Holmfirth, UK/ Picturedome w/ QMS, PEVAR, MORLEY 30th Aug Bedford, UK/ The Rhythm Festival QMS ONLY!!! 31st Aug Bedford, UK/ The Rhythm Festival w/ JEFF PEVAR, TONY MORLEY * * *Quicksilver Messenger Service Live Archive* Further to our report in the last ePrint we can now announce the details of the first releases from the Quicksilver Messenger Service Live . They will be released starting in September and consist of the following shows: *Avalon Ballroom San Francisco 6th September 1966* *Avalon Ballroom San Francisco 28th October 1966* *Fillmore Auditorium San Francisco 4th February 1967 (2CD Set)* *Fillmore Auditorium 6th February 1967* *Carousel Ballroom San Francisco 4th April 1968 (2CD Set)* * * *Martin Stephenson & The Daintees London Gig* *Martin Stephenson and the Daintees* play a rare London gig at the Jazz Caf? London on *Tuesday the 12th of August*. The band had originally hoped to play a date on Monday the 11th of August but this gig was cancelled and tickets for that date are now valid for the 12th. Support comes from *Helen McCookerybook* who also releases an album through Voiceprint in the autumn. * * *Hawkwind Live DVDs* The Official Bootleg DVD series from Hawkwind gets underway with the release of the first three releases now available from a dedicated website http://www.hawkwinddirect.com/ The DVDs are available to buy separately or you can buy them all at a discounted price. You can also view low resolution clips of the contents of the DVDs on the website. *All About Eve Live In Germany DVD* *All About Eve* release a DVD stemming from their performance on German television in September 1992. The band had just released the album *Touched By Jesus* and guitarist *Marty Wilson-Piper* had just joined the band. This is the first time this material has been released officially and *Julianne Regan* has written the sleeve notes for the DVD. The set list included six of the eleven tracks included on the *Touched By Jesus* album which certainly showed that the band were solidly behind the new album. The songs included *Strange Way**, Share It With Me, Touched By Jesus, Hide Child, Farewell Mr. Sorrow *and *Rhythm Of Life*. The band still performed a couple of stalwarts from the previous albums such as *In The Clouds, Wild Hearted Woman, Road To Your Soul* and *Every Angel* but this was a new *All About Eve* and one that the fans took to immediately as can be seen by the reception on this DVD. * * *Eric Burdon The Animals and Beyond DVD Documentary* *Eric Burdon* will always be associated with the British R n B band *The Animals.* Coming out of Newcastle in the early sixties the band burst onto the music scene with an incredible version of *House Of The Rising Sun*. The song reached number one all over the world and the band embarked on three years of intensive touring and recording which would include the hit songs *We Gotta Get Out Of This Place*, *It's My Life* and *Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood*. Of all the bands that broke through in the sixties it was the *Animals *who were considered to be the true purveyors of authentic R n B and the main reason for that was *Eric Burdon's* voice. This film is an excellent primer covering the career of *Eric Burdon* and contains a number of interviews with some of the musicians who worked with him over the years including former members of the *Animals* (*John Steel*and *Hilton Valentine*) and the *New Animals* (*Zoot Money*). There are also interviews with *Eric Burdon* himself and *Brian Auger* who were working together in a band at the time. The film also includes clips from Eric Burdon's career which takes in rare clips from the *Animals, The New Animals * and *Eric Burdon and War*. *Voiceprint Web Radio* Voiceprint is happy to say the initial response to their new dedicated web radio website has been excellent. The new website which was launched in mid 2007 features music and interviews from your favourite Voiceprint artists. There are already many varied and diverse programmes available to listen to on the Voiceprint Web Radio Station including Exclusive interviews with *Jo Fletcher*, *Daevid Allen*, *Larry Fast* and the popular *Mix n Match*programmes where you can listen to many of the artists who release albums through Voiceprint. In 2008 you can expect radio shows featuring *John Payne *, *Chris Thompson*, *Barbara Dickson* and many more artists talking about their music and featuring tracks from albums new and old So for more music and more interviews throughout 2008 just go here: * www.voiceprintwebradio.com* *And stay Tuned!!* This month's featured programme features music from the *Reel Recordings*catalogue. Jon Kirkman is in conversation with *Reel Recordings* MD *Michael King* and discusses the catalogue and some of the eclectic releases already available including a rare live recording from *Kevin Ayers*. * * *Download Recommendation: Martin Stephenson & The Daintees: Gladsome Humour & Blue* Several albums where released by the *Daintees* including *'The Boat to Bolivia'* and 'Salutation *Road**'*. In 1988 *Gladsome, Humour & Blue*contained the superb *'Wholly Humble Heart'*. Reviews were generally excellent, and Stephenson enhanced an already impressive reputation. Essential to *Martin Stephenson and Daintee's* fans new and old!** *Back Catalogue Recommendation: Patrick Moraz: The Story Of I* *The Story Of I* was *Patrick Moraz's* debut solo album and recorded in late 1975 during a period when all the members of *Yes* embarked on solo projects. The album was a concept piece based around a story Patrick had written. Musically the album features Latin and rock rhythms in fact the entire album has a very percussive feel to it. One of the featured musicians on the album alongside Patrick is well known session drummer *Andy Newmark*. Other featured musicians on the album are jazz drummer *Alphonse Mouzon* and bassist *Jeff Berlin*. *New Release Recommendation: Steve Miller Trio: Meets Elton Dean* Pianist *Steve Miller* (1943-1998) formed his trio in the mid-eighties after a lengthy hiatus for technique re evaluation. With young bassist *Tony Moore * and AMM drummer *Eddie Prevost*, Steve was now able to improvise freely sans traces of his deep roots in blues and boogie. With time spent in * Delivery* and *Carava*n well behind him, Steve's new path lead to a weekly series of concerts billed as "Meetings with Remarkable Saxophonists". At London's Bull & Gate, the diverse talents of *Lol Coxhill, Harrison Smith, Elton Dean* (1945-2006) and *Bobby Wellins* rose to meet the spontaneous challenge of improvised music making, with all performances professionally recorded on high speed tape. The special success, in our opinion, was the splendid meeting of altoist *Elton Dean* and the *Steve Miller Trio*. Two extended sets of continuous collective improvisation, strongly rooted in the powerful modern jazz aesthetic, comprise this nearly hour long CD. With rare concert photos and notes from Steve complimenting this important document, the *Steve Miller Trio* "*Meets Elton Dean*" is indeed a musical meeting to be treasured. Stellar musical meeting of old friends, previously unreleased, makes this compact disc document a worthy companion to last year's successful reissue of the *Steve Miller/Lol* *Coxhill *Virgin recordings. *Forthcoming Release Recommendation: Fish: Return To Childhood DVD* *Fish *first came to the notice of music fans as the front man for neo progressive rock band *Marillion.* The band had secured a recording deal with EMI records in late 1982 and released their debut album *Script For A Jesters Tear* in 1983. Further albums including *Fugazi* and the massively popular *Misplaced Childhood* album which spawned a number of top twenty singles including *Kayleigh* ensured that *Marillion* became on of the biggest British rock bands at the time. The bands final album featuring Fish was *Clutching At Straws*. Again the band toured in support of that album and following touring duties again began work on the proposed follow up. During the sessions for the follow up *Fish *left the band and commenced on a solo career that continues to this day. This DVD is the companion release to the *Return To Childhood* CD which was recorded in Holland during the twentieth anniversary tour in November 2005 to celebrate the release of the *Marillion* album *Misplaced Childhood*. The DVD includes the full performance of the *Misplaced Childhood* album and also other solo material from *Fish *such as *Credo *and *Big Wedge*alongside *Marillion* classics *Market Square Heroes* and *Incommunicado.* *So as you can see there is plenty to look forward to from Voiceprint. Make sure you are signed up for regular newsletters and tell your friends. Voiceprint will continue to be one of the most exciting independent labels on the scene in 2008. Why not join us.*** *(c)Voiceprint Group of Companies 2008* *You have received this email as you signed up for Voiceprint updates.* ------------------------------ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it Now! -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 4 15:10:36 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:10:36 +0100 Subject: Just back from Hawkfest Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Aug 4 15:28:35 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:28:35 EDT Subject: Just back from Hawkfest Message-ID: Yes, it was an amazing unforgettable weekend. I didn't think 2003 could be topped. It was. Here's to next year. FORTY YEARS OF HAWKWIND. I'm looking forward to 2011 - 42 years when maybe there could be a Hitchhiker's theme running. Marvin meets Angela. Got lots of ideas for that. Steve. In a message dated 04/08/2008 20:11:38 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: So a huge THANK-YOU to Kris, Margaret, Dave, the bands, the crews and everyone who contributed. It was a masterpicece of organisation. We enjoyed it immensely and it was great to spend time with you other fans. From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 17:10:49 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:10:49 +0100 Subject: Voiceprint DVD's - Order now! Message-ID: Seems I opened Voiceprint up to early ordering and shipping. Got following e-mail just now after questioning the original mail and the fact that a newsletter followed with conflicting info. Rob's comments Hi Steve, we will be shipping in about two weeks time. Due to people stumbling upon the site we have decided to open it anyways. So now you know and can get ordering! Apologies for all the confusion earlier but at least now resolved Here's the link http://www.hawkwinddirect.com/ Steve -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From joe.e at TELIA.COM Mon Aug 4 18:05:36 2008 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:05:36 +0200 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Got a mail from CD Services today; --------------------------------------- [...] We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', 'Choose Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more recent works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and all should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the original master tapes), Content and Packaging. November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) from the beginning of 2009. There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes and vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on that score in the coming months ahead. [...] --------------------------------------- This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior on the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk reissues? ;0) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 18:14:23 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:14:23 -0500 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <200808042206.m74M6PNS031465@sputnik.bktv.se> Message-ID: screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions YES YES do this first I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen replanted transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list (hehe) mike I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri on the cover looks like...not bad On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > --------------------------------------- > [...] > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, Strangeness > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', 'Choose > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more recent > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and all > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) from > the beginning of 2009. > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes and > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on > that score in the coming months ahead. > [...] > --------------------------------------- > > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior on > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk > reissues? ;0) > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 21:15:30 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:15:30 -0700 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: Oooooooooooooooh yeah! -----Original Message----- From: Johan Edlundh Date: Monday, Aug 4, 2008 6:10 pm Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Got a mail from CD Services today; --------------------------------------- [...] We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', 'Choose Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more recent works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and all should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the original master tapes), Content and Packaging. November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) from the beginning of 2009. There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes and vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on that score in the coming months ahead. [...] --------------------------------------- This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior on the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk reissues? ;0) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 5 05:49:58 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:49:58 +0100 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:05:36 +0200 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 06:51:03 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:51:03 +0000 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <200808050949.m759nwKU007222@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Really? I thought it would kick-start the economy again. Brown is saved! --- On Tue, 8/5/08, M Holmes wrote: From: M Holmes Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 10:49 AM Johan Edlundh writes: > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of > Hawk reissues? ;0) This will be the final straw for the banks I'm afraid... FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Aug 5 07:41:38 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:41:38 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind- New DVDs Message-ID: Hej 35? for the 3. Not a bad price I guess but from what I recall, the Treworgy and the US tours video tapes were not that good to start with. Is it really worth it? Are they going to be put together as badly as most of the other Hawkwind DVDs out there? Chronicles has like 30% sound on one channel compared to 100% on the other. I don't think there has been a single, really great Hawkwind DVD and I am not ready to spend any more money on shitty ones. I ordered the new Knights of Space but it already seems it was marketed as a double with a booklet and it is a single without any booklet? I just don't trust these people anymore. My 2 cents... scott From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Tue Aug 5 08:21:55 2008 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:21:55 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind- New DVDs Message-ID: Yeah the DVD re-issues of the old VHS tapes have been pretty shoddy. Chronicle of the Black Sword sounds terrible, and the picture is considerably darker than the VHS tape. The same goes for Night of the Hawks, Chaos, and Love in Space. It's as if they used one of the tapes (instead of the master) to make the DVDs. On the other hand, the newer ones look great. On a somewhat related note, has anyone sent HW their passport and SASE and received the Magna show? I've been waiting a couple of months and nothing has happened. Not only am I expecting to not get the DVD, but I expect my passport has been lost as well! Any stories to the contrary? John Majka Hej 35? for the 3. Not a bad price I guess but from what I recall, the Treworgy and the US tours video tapes were not that good to start with. Is it really worth it? Are they going to be put together as badly as most of the other Hawkwind DVDs out there? Chronicles has like 30% sound on one channel compared to 100% on the other. I don't think there has been a single, really great Hawkwind DVD and I am not ready to spend any more money on shitty ones. I ordered the new Knights of Space but it already seems it was marketed as a double with a booklet and it is a single without any booklet? I just don't trust these people anymore. My 2 cents... scott From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 5 15:30:15 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:30:15 EDT Subject: Just back from Hawkfest Message-ID: In a message dated 04/08/2008 20:11:38 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: So a huge THANK-YOU to Kris, Margaret, Dave, the bands, the crews and everyone who contributed. It was a masterpicece of organisation. We enjoyed it immensely and it was great to spend time with you other fans. FoFP Aye Laddie. I'll second that. See you in December. Steve. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Aug 5 16:10:56 2008 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:10:56 -0400 Subject: HW: Reissue news from Chery Red Message-ID: For their official text: http://cherryred.co.uk/crzone/newsletters/0807.pdf Check out the 2nd page, "Editorial" column. So I reckon that Atomhenge is their HW-only offshoot? J. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 18:32:51 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:32:51 +0100 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <200808042206.m74M6PNS031465@sputnik.bktv.se> <17d80c610808041514s228ad03eqe9db71004eefd9d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: you are a complete idiot aha t -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions > YES > YES > do this first > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen replanted > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list (hehe) > mike > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri on > the cover looks like...not bad > > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: >> >> Got a mail from CD Services today; >> >> --------------------------------------- >> [...] >> We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND >> catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and >> Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! >> >> Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding >> Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and >> Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. >> >> Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, >> Strangeness >> & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', >> 'Choose >> Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more >> recent >> works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. >> >> All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and >> all >> should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the >> Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the >> original master tapes), Content and Packaging. >> >> November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; >> with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and >> Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. >> The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) >> from >> the beginning of 2009. >> >> There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes >> and >> vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on >> that score in the coming months ahead. >> [...] >> --------------------------------------- >> >> >> This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior >> on >> the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. >> >> Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk >> reissues? ;0) >> >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 13:52:30 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:52:30 +0000 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: Wow thats great news. Its time to chuck those Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirate issues of Warrior and the Virgin CDs out for the definitive Atomhenge editions! ----- Original Message ---- From: Johan Edlundh To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:05:36 AM Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Got a mail from CD Services today; --------------------------------------- [...] We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', 'Choose Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more recent works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and all should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the original master tapes), Content and Packaging. November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) from the beginning of 2009. There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes and vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on that score in the coming months ahead. [...] --------------------------------------- This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior on the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk reissues? ;0) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 13:56:16 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:56:16 +0000 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to Mike. ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions YES YES do this first I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen replanted transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list (hehe) mike I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri on the cover looks like...not bad On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > --------------------------------------- > [...] > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, Strangeness > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', 'Choose > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more recent > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and all > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) from > the beginning of 2009. > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes and > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on > that score in the coming months ahead. > [...] > --------------------------------------- > > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior on > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk > reissues? ;0) > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 19:11:05 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:11:05 -0500 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <879465.81239.qm@web23006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: *you are a complete idiot* *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to > Mike. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions > YES > YES > do this first > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen replanted > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list (hehe) > mike > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri on > the cover looks like...not bad > > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > > > --------------------------------------- > > [...] > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. > > > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, > Strangeness > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', > 'Choose > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more > recent > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. > > > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and > all > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. > > > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) > from > > the beginning of 2009. > > > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes > and > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on > > that score in the coming months ahead. > > [...] > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior > on > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. > > > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk > > reissues? ;0) > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 19:40:20 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:40:20 +0100 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <879465.81239.qm@web23006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <17d80c610808051611s16155b0eo811527bcdcf22ae3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: that's good, mike is now a pariah to the whole world....just like i am...sniff.... and i don't wear crocodile death products...they have as much right to live as us degenerate humans - who are destroying mother earth...for god's sake when will you all wake up from your comfortable and unaware existances??? fucking texan degenerate everyone just shuttup!!! he's got lots of stuff on me, but i've got even more on him...just contact me for the juicy bits. judge trev (relatively important person on this stupid list) and you all wait for the "bob calvert memorial concert" - i'm gonna blow all the "has beens" off with an acoustic guitar with worn down frets ...easy...no probs...just watch gimme a ring if you can afford it. so i can insult you just for fun. i used to think that the answer was love....but now i know that the ONLY answer is DEATH ...sob - NIK TURNER DROVE ME TO THIS..IT'S ALL HIS FAULT, as well as mike coleman's remaster everything..what..why remaster crap btw i've got a knife...i'm looking for a gun too, but they are expensive in the uk tel: 0044 (0)1273 387645...guns wanted REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, Video Downloads, News, Healers -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:11 AM To: Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > *you are a complete idiot* > *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* > > > On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >> i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to >> Mike. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: mike coleman >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM >> Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label >> >> screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions >> YES >> YES >> do this first >> I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen replanted >> transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list (hehe) >> mike >> I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri >> on >> the cover looks like...not bad >> >> On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: >> > >> > Got a mail from CD Services today; >> > >> > --------------------------------------- >> > [...] >> > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND >> > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and >> > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! >> > >> > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding >> > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and >> > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. >> > >> > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, >> Strangeness >> > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', >> 'Choose >> > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more >> recent >> > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. >> > >> > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and >> all >> > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the >> > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the >> > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. >> > >> > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue >> > campaign; >> > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and >> > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. >> > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) >> from >> > the beginning of 2009. >> > >> > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes >> and >> > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens >> > on >> > that score in the coming months ahead. >> > [...] >> > --------------------------------------- >> > >> > >> > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the >> > Warrior >> on >> > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near >> > future. >> > >> > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of >> > Hawk >> > reissues? ;0) >> > >> > >> > -- >> > This message has been scanned for viruses and >> > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> > believed to be clean. >> > >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> Not happy with your email address?. >> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available >> now >> at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 19:46:30 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:46:30 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > "i think you are an idiot like trev said." > well I told you I loved you and you quickly let me know the feeling was NOT mutual........ I was only kidding but seeing as how you thought my best friend and likely the single-most highly educated member of the the greater Hawk-family would call me an idiot in public (he knows I am), with whom I now communicate telepathically, you are making me wonder.......Trev is highly political minded and his comments involve his own isle where the sun never sets i" might sell them to at 30 bucks a pop when the remasters come out." > yes since Olaf ispired me to flame you in fun, I had wanted the list to know you did, but figured I better make sure it gets here since your into Satan and 666, and stuff i sent your money so be nice to me. > alright > & explain the last sentence................???????????????????? > *read this: http://www.newsweek.com/id/150240/>1=43002* ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 1:11:05 AM > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > *you are a complete idiot* > *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* > > > On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to > > Mike. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: mike coleman > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM > > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions > > YES > > YES > > do this first > > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen replanted > > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list (hehe) > > mike > > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri > on > > the cover looks like...not bad > > > > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > > > > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > [...] > > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > > > > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding > > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and > > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. > > > > > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, > > Strangeness > > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', > > 'Choose > > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more > > recent > > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. > > > > > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and > > all > > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the > > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the > > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. > > > > > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue > campaign; > > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and > > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. > > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) > > from > > > the beginning of 2009. > > > > > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes > > and > > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens > on > > > that score in the coming months ahead. > > > [...] > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the > Warrior > > on > > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near > future. > > > > > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of > Hawk > > > reissues? ;0) > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Not happy with your email address?. > > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available > now > > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > > > > ------------------------------ > Not happy with your email address? > Get the one you really want - > millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Aug 5 20:04:26 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:04:26 -0400 Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808051646g4b1df848kc470abad83773ee1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I believe from Trev that's a compliment. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:47 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > "i think you are an idiot like trev said." > well I told you I loved you and you quickly let me know the feeling was NOT mutual........ I was only kidding but seeing as how you thought my best friend and likely the single-most highly educated member of the the greater Hawk-family would call me an idiot in public (he knows I am), with whom I now communicate telepathically, you are making me wonder.......Trev is highly political minded and his comments involve his own isle where the sun never sets i" might sell them to at 30 bucks a pop when the remasters come out." > yes since Olaf ispired me to flame you in fun, I had wanted the list to know you did, but figured I better make sure it gets here since your into Satan and 666, and stuff i sent your money so be nice to me. > alright > & explain the last sentence................???????????????????? > *read this: http://www.newsweek.com/id/150240/>1=43002* ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 1:11:05 AM > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > *you are a complete idiot* > *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* > > > On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to > > Mike. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: mike coleman > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM > > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions > > YES > > YES > > do this first > > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen replanted > > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list (hehe) > > mike > > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri > on > > the cover looks like...not bad > > > > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > > > > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > [...] > > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > > > > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding > > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and > > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. > > > > > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, > > Strangeness > > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', > > 'Choose > > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more > > recent > > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. > > > > > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and > > all > > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the > > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the > > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. > > > > > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue > campaign; > > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and > > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. > > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) > > from > > > the beginning of 2009. > > > > > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes > > and > > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens > on > > > that score in the coming months ahead. > > > [...] > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the > Warrior > > on > > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near > future. > > > > > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of > Hawk > > > reissues? ;0) > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Not happy with your email address?. > > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available > now > > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > > > > ------------------------------ > Not happy with your email address? > Get the one you really want - > millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 20:53:10 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:53:10 +0100 Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808051646g4b1df848kc470abad83773ee1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: he's twisting everything i said he is the devil...beware ...666 and all that... trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:46 AM To: Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >> "i think you are an idiot like trev said." >> > well I told you I loved you and you quickly let me know the feeling was > NOT > mutual........ > I was only kidding but seeing as how you thought my best friend and likely > the single-most highly educated member of the the greater Hawk-family > would > call me an idiot in public (he knows I am), with whom I now communicate > telepathically, you are making me wonder.......Trev is highly political > minded and his comments involve his own isle where the sun never sets > > i" might sell them to at 30 bucks a pop when the remasters come out." >> > > yes since Olaf ispired me to flame you in fun, I had wanted the list to > know > you did, but figured I better make sure it gets here since your into Satan > and 666, and stuff > > i sent your money so be nice to me. >> > alright > > >> & explain the last sentence................???????????????????? >> > > *read this: http://www.newsweek.com/id/150240/>1=43002* > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: mike coleman >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 1:11:05 AM >> Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label >> >> *you are a complete idiot* >> *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* >> >> >> On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> > >> > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to >> > Mike. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ---- >> > From: mike coleman >> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM >> > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label >> > >> > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions >> > YES >> > YES >> > do this first >> > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen >> > replanted >> > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list >> > (hehe) >> > mike >> > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri >> on >> > the cover looks like...not bad >> > >> > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: >> > > >> > > Got a mail from CD Services today; >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------- >> > > [...] >> > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND >> > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and >> > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! >> > > >> > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding >> > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and >> > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. >> > > >> > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, >> > Strangeness >> > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', >> > 'Choose >> > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more >> > recent >> > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. >> > > >> > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" >> > > and >> > all >> > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be >> > > the >> > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from >> > > the >> > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. >> > > >> > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue >> campaign; >> > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and >> > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. >> > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in >> > > stages) >> > from >> > > the beginning of 2009. >> > > >> > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles >> > > boxes >> > and >> > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what >> > > happens >> on >> > > that score in the coming months ahead. >> > > [...] >> > > --------------------------------------- >> > > >> > > >> > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the >> Warrior >> > on >> > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near >> future. >> > > >> > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of >> Hawk >> > > reissues? ;0) >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and >> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> > > believed to be clean. >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ >> > Not happy with your email address?. >> > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available >> now >> > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> Not happy with your email address? >> Get the one you really want - >> millions of new email addresses available now at >> Yahoo! >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 20:57:47 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:57:47 +0100 Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: don't you listen to that mike any more mary, no no no unless you want to go to hell that is trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Sullivan" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:04 AM To: Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > I believe from Trev that's a compliment. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:47 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >> "i think you are an idiot like trev said." >> > well I told you I loved you and you quickly let me know the feeling was > NOT > mutual........ > I was only kidding but seeing as how you thought my best friend and likely > the single-most highly educated member of the the greater Hawk-family > would > call me an idiot in public (he knows I am), with whom I now communicate > telepathically, you are making me wonder.......Trev is highly political > minded and his comments involve his own isle where the sun never sets > > i" might sell them to at 30 bucks a pop when the remasters come out." >> > > yes since Olaf ispired me to flame you in fun, I had wanted the list to > know > you did, but figured I better make sure it gets here since your into Satan > and 666, and stuff > > i sent your money so be nice to me. >> > alright > > >> & explain the last sentence................???????????????????? >> > > *read this: http://www.newsweek.com/id/150240/>1=43002* > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: mike coleman >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 1:11:05 AM >> Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label >> >> *you are a complete idiot* >> *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* >> >> >> On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> > >> > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to >> > Mike. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ---- >> > From: mike coleman >> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM >> > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label >> > >> > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions >> > YES >> > YES >> > do this first >> > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen >> > replanted >> > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list > (hehe) >> > mike >> > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri >> on >> > the cover looks like...not bad >> > >> > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: >> > > >> > > Got a mail from CD Services today; >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------- >> > > [...] >> > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND >> > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and >> > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! >> > > >> > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding >> > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and >> > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. >> > > >> > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, >> > Strangeness >> > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', >> > 'Choose >> > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more >> > recent >> > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. >> > > >> > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" >> > > and >> > all >> > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be >> > > the >> > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from >> > > the >> > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. >> > > >> > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue >> campaign; >> > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and >> > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. >> > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in >> > > stages) >> > from >> > > the beginning of 2009. >> > > >> > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles > boxes >> > and >> > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what >> > > happens >> on >> > > that score in the coming months ahead. >> > > [...] >> > > --------------------------------------- >> > > >> > > >> > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the >> Warrior >> > on >> > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near >> future. >> > > >> > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of >> Hawk >> > > reissues? ;0) >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and >> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> > > believed to be clean. >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ >> > Not happy with your email address?. >> > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available >> now >> > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> Not happy with your email address? >> Get the one you really want - >> millions of new email addresses available now at > Yahoo! >> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Aug 5 21:07:16 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:07:16 -0400 Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm already there. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of trev Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:58 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label don't you listen to that mike any more mary, no no no unless you want to go to hell that is trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Sullivan" Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:04 AM To: Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > I believe from Trev that's a compliment. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:47 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >> "i think you are an idiot like trev said." >> > well I told you I loved you and you quickly let me know the feeling was > NOT > mutual........ > I was only kidding but seeing as how you thought my best friend and likely > the single-most highly educated member of the the greater Hawk-family > would > call me an idiot in public (he knows I am), with whom I now communicate > telepathically, you are making me wonder.......Trev is highly political > minded and his comments involve his own isle where the sun never sets > > i" might sell them to at 30 bucks a pop when the remasters come out." >> > > yes since Olaf ispired me to flame you in fun, I had wanted the list to > know > you did, but figured I better make sure it gets here since your into Satan > and 666, and stuff > > i sent your money so be nice to me. >> > alright > > >> & explain the last sentence................???????????????????? >> > > *read this: http://www.newsweek.com/id/150240/>1=43002* > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: mike coleman >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 1:11:05 AM >> Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label >> >> *you are a complete idiot* >> *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* >> >> >> On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> > >> > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to >> > Mike. >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ---- >> > From: mike coleman >> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM >> > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label >> > >> > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions >> > YES >> > YES >> > do this first >> > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen >> > replanted >> > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list > (hehe) >> > mike >> > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri >> on >> > the cover looks like...not bad >> > >> > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: >> > > >> > > Got a mail from CD Services today; >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------- >> > > [...] >> > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND >> > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and >> > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! >> > > >> > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding >> > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and >> > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. >> > > >> > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, >> > Strangeness >> > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', >> > 'Choose >> > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more >> > recent >> > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. >> > > >> > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" >> > > and >> > all >> > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be >> > > the >> > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from >> > > the >> > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. >> > > >> > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue >> campaign; >> > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and >> > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. >> > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in >> > > stages) >> > from >> > > the beginning of 2009. >> > > >> > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles > boxes >> > and >> > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what >> > > happens >> on >> > > that score in the coming months ahead. >> > > [...] >> > > --------------------------------------- >> > > >> > > >> > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the >> Warrior >> > on >> > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near >> future. >> > > >> > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of >> Hawk >> > > reissues? ;0) >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and >> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> > > believed to be clean. >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ >> > Not happy with your email address?. >> > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available >> now >> > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> Not happy with your email address? >> Get the one you really want - >> millions of new email addresses available now at > Yahoo! >> > From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Tue Aug 5 21:15:20 2008 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:15:20 -0500 Subject: Aurora, Illinois 20080801 Set List Message-ID: Had to get back to Texas to send it! Summer of Love Teen Archer Burnin' for You I'm On The Lamb But I Ain't No Sheep Harvest Moon Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll w/ Buck solo Joan Crawford Black Blade Then Came the Last Days of May w/ guest Vinny Moore of UFO Vinny solo Buck solo Godzilla Sarzo solo drum solo Buck solo DFTR 10pm curfew - Why do they let the opening act play so long? Richie Castellano - kb and g Rudy Sarzo - bass Jules Randino - drums From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 22:53:20 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:53:20 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: we created the religions, it's much worse than you could possibly ever imagine with the very limited brain capacity we allowed you to retain we have holographic images..... On 8/5/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I'm already there. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of trev > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:58 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > don't you listen to that mike any more mary, no no no > unless you want to go to hell that is > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mary Sullivan" > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:04 AM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > I believe from Trev that's a compliment. > > > > Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:47 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > > > > On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > >> > >> "i think you are an idiot like trev said." > >> > > well I told you I loved you and you quickly let me know the feeling was > > NOT > > mutual........ > > I was only kidding but seeing as how you thought my best friend and > likely > > the single-most highly educated member of the the greater Hawk-family > > would > > call me an idiot in public (he knows I am), with whom I now communicate > > telepathically, you are making me wonder.......Trev is highly political > > minded and his comments involve his own isle where the sun never sets > > > > i" might sell them to at 30 bucks a pop when the remasters come out." > >> > > > > yes since Olaf ispired me to flame you in fun, I had wanted the list to > > know > > you did, but figured I better make sure it gets here since your into > Satan > > and 666, and stuff > > > > i sent your money so be nice to me. > >> > > alright > > > > > >> & explain the last sentence................???????????????????? > >> > > > > *read this: http://www.newsweek.com/id/150240/>1=43002* > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: mike coleman > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 1:11:05 AM > >> Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > >> > >> *you are a complete idiot* > >> *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* > >> > >> > >> On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > >> > > >> > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not > to > >> > Mike. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ---- > >> > From: mike coleman > >> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM > >> > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > >> > > >> > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions > >> > YES > >> > YES > >> > do this first > >> > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen > >> > replanted > >> > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list > > (hehe) > >> > mike > >> > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put > Yuri > >> on > >> > the cover looks like...not bad > >> > > >> > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > >> > > > >> > > --------------------------------------- > >> > > [...] > >> > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > >> > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered > and > >> > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > >> > > > >> > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding > >> > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's > and > >> > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. > >> > > > >> > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, > >> > Strangeness > >> > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', > >> > 'Choose > >> > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the > more > >> > recent > >> > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. > >> > > > >> > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" > >> > > and > >> > all > >> > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be > >> > > the > >> > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from > >> > > the > >> > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. > >> > > > >> > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue > >> campaign; > >> > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums > and > >> > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. > >> > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in > >> > > stages) > >> > from > >> > > the beginning of 2009. > >> > > > >> > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles > > boxes > >> > and > >> > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what > >> > > happens > >> on > >> > > that score in the coming months ahead. > >> > > [...] > >> > > --------------------------------------- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the > >> Warrior > >> > on > >> > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near > >> future. > >> > > > >> > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of > >> Hawk > >> > > reissues? ;0) > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> > > believed to be clean. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > __________________________________________________________ > >> > Not happy with your email address?. > >> > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses > available > >> now > >> > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> Not happy with your email address? > >> Get the one you really want - > >> millions of new email addresses available now at > > Yahoo! > >> > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 23:04:41 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:04:41 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No not yet, but dead like me you are I will bring you hell slowly On 8/5/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I'm already there. > > Mary > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of trev > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:58 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > don't you listen to that mike any more mary, no no no > unless you want to go to hell that is > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Mary Sullivan" > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:04 AM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > I believe from Trev that's a compliment. > > > > Mary > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of mike coleman > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:47 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > > > > > On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > >> > >> "i think you are an idiot like trev said." > >> > > well I told you I loved you and you quickly let me know the feeling was > > NOT > > mutual........ > > I was only kidding but seeing as how you thought my best friend and > likely > > the single-most highly educated member of the the greater Hawk-family > > would > > call me an idiot in public (he knows I am), with whom I now communicate > > telepathically, you are making me wonder.......Trev is highly political > > minded and his comments involve his own isle where the sun never sets > > > > i" might sell them to at 30 bucks a pop when the remasters come out." > >> > > > > yes since Olaf ispired me to flame you in fun, I had wanted the list to > > know > > you did, but figured I better make sure it gets here since your into > Satan > > and 666, and stuff > > > > i sent your money so be nice to me. > >> > > alright > > > > > >> & explain the last sentence................???????????????????? > >> > > > > *read this: http://www.newsweek.com/id/150240/>1=43002* > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: mike coleman > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 1:11:05 AM > >> Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > >> > >> *you are a complete idiot* > >> *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* > >> > >> > >> On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > >> > > >> > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not > to > >> > Mike. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ---- > >> > From: mike coleman > >> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM > >> > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > >> > > >> > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions > >> > YES > >> > YES > >> > do this first > >> > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen > >> > replanted > >> > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list > > (hehe) > >> > mike > >> > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put > Yuri > >> on > >> > the cover looks like...not bad > >> > > >> > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > >> > > > >> > > --------------------------------------- > >> > > [...] > >> > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > >> > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered > and > >> > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > >> > > > >> > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding > >> > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's > and > >> > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. > >> > > > >> > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, > >> > Strangeness > >> > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', > >> > 'Choose > >> > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the > more > >> > recent > >> > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. > >> > > > >> > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" > >> > > and > >> > all > >> > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be > >> > > the > >> > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from > >> > > the > >> > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. > >> > > > >> > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue > >> campaign; > >> > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums > and > >> > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. > >> > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in > >> > > stages) > >> > from > >> > > the beginning of 2009. > >> > > > >> > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles > > boxes > >> > and > >> > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what > >> > > happens > >> on > >> > > that score in the coming months ahead. > >> > > [...] > >> > > --------------------------------------- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the > >> Warrior > >> > on > >> > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near > >> future. > >> > > > >> > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of > >> Hawk > >> > > reissues? ;0) > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > >> > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > >> > > believed to be clean. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > __________________________________________________________ > >> > Not happy with your email address?. > >> > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses > available > >> now > >> > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> Not happy with your email address? > >> Get the one you really want - > >> millions of new email addresses available now at > > Yahoo! > >> > > > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Aug 5 23:20:00 2008 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:20:00 EDT Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: Insect, Brucie, Skull and Trev ---all in one night.............next........look to the heavens bill s ny **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Aug 6 05:09:45 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:09:45 +0200 Subject: HW remasters Message-ID: Hej Do people have any guess what the bonus material will be? Seems very unlikely it will be anything that most of us collectors don't already have. It says all remastered from the original tapes. I find this highly unlikely but it is possilbe. The recent space ritual recordings they did take the original 1/4 mix down tape to Abbey Road and it does sound really great but then who will put that kind of effort into the rest of the catalog? Do these 1/4 tapes even exist still and what shape are they in? I guess we will soon find out. I am not sure I will buy yet another copy of these records. I already have like 125 Hawkwind CDs... Curious what others think? scott From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 6 06:08:03 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:08:03 +0100 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:11:05 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 6 07:14:16 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:14:16 +0100 Subject: HW remasters In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E921459D0780@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: How about studio versions (if they exist) of Uncle Sam, High Rise etc? The full concerts from which live material has been taken? DVD's of concerts from similar periods to the albums? Steve On 8/6/08, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > > Hej > > Do people have any guess what the bonus material will be? Seems very > unlikely it will be anything that most of us collectors don't already have. > It says all remastered from the original tapes. I find this highly unlikely > but it is possilbe. The recent space ritual recordings they did take the > original 1/4 mix down tape to Abbey Road and it does sound really great but > then who will put that kind of effort into the rest of the catalog? Do these > 1/4 tapes even exist still and what shape are they in? I guess we will soon > find out. I am not sure I will buy yet another copy of these records. I > already have like 125 Hawkwind CDs... > > Curious what others think? > > scott > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 6 08:42:21 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:42:21 -0500 Subject: HW remasters In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E921459D0780@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: On 06 Aug 2008, at 04:09 , SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > It says all remastered from the original tapes. I find this highly > unlikely but it is possilbe. The recent space ritual recordings > they did take the original 1/4 mix down tape to Abbey Road and it > does sound really great but then who will put that kind of effort > into the rest of the catalog? Do these 1/4 tapes even exist still > and what shape are they in? I guess we will soon find out. I am not > sure I will buy yet another copy of these records. I already have > like 125 Hawkwind CDs... I would guess there is some chance that Dave himself still has an increasingly large percentage of original tapes as we get closer to the present? I would guess he has piles of out-takes and things, too. (Rehersal jams for the Hawkfest? Lemmy whacking Nik in the head for being a loon in glorious 5.1 surround sound? Who knows!? ;)) On the other hand, I wonder how much remastering will help the more recent releases (and is it _worth_ getting a remastered _Distant Horizons_? Rather than bonus tracks, I might cut it down to an EP! ;)). And even on the Virgin-era stuff, I wonder if the new remastering can do anything more that the Griffin remastering did not. (Though it would be worth knowing whether we will get the expanded Griffin _Live Chronicles_, or just the original). But, yes, for my part, I'm not sure I'm missing much worth struggling for from between '76 and '97. Pssibly I don't have _all_ the edits of "Douglas in the Jungle" or something like that, but being a very small "k" kollektor, maybe even a subscript ;) I will probably survive. Still, I think the important thing here is not that stuff is getting bonus tracks or remastering -- it's that it's going to be available at all, meaning that people who missed the last rounds of reissues or who have since become fans can get the albums in some sensible way again .... Assuming there's any kind of decent distribution! :) (Should I complain that there should be sales of FLAC downloads of these new reissues? Nah, who would listen .....) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 6 08:43:18 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:43:18 -0500 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <707296.60825.qm@web23001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 05 Aug 2008, at 12:52 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > Wow thats great news. Its time to chuck those Rock Fever and Sun > Rise pirate issues of Warrior and the Virgin CDs out for the > definitive Atomhenge editions! Better hang on to the Warrior pirates! Sounds like that's one album that will remain officially out of print for the time being .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 6 08:50:33 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:50:33 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind- New DVDs In-Reply-To: <126A561607A76D4B90A6B67641C593E921459D044C@exdkmbx005.corp.novocorp.net> Message-ID: On 05 Aug 2008, at 06:41 , SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > I don't think there has been a single, really great Hawkwind DVD > and I am not ready to spend any more money on shitty ones. Ah, that DVD from a couple of years back with Arthur Brown on it was quite well shot and had quite good sound (for all that I couldn't hear it in 5.1 on my CRT TV when I rented the DVD via LoveFilm back in the UK!). On the other hand, Arthur Brown, while a marvelous dude, didn't really do a lot for me in Hawkwind ... and I have to say that apart from the fact that he wrote a few cool songs (Moonglum, etc.), I've always felt a bit ambivalent about Huw. He works for me in the mid-80s-vibe Hawkwind, but not so much in the '90s/'00s Hawkwind. So I didn't rush out to buy the DVD, though I remember I enjoyed watching it. A decent DVD release of Chronicles would be cool. I think I wore my old VHS copy out to death back in university! It was just ... a remarkable document! :) I loved the '90ish VHS of the Nottingham Rock City performance (I think it was, too), well except for the dancer, and I have it in mind there was a DVD version of that as well, though I don't think I ever saw it. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 6 08:52:05 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:52:05 -0500 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <3300729329.13790979@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey, and wait! While we're at it, can we please have a release of that much-discussed Roadburn performance from a couple of years back? I'd much rather buy that than a remastered _Distant Horizons_ with bonus tracks! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 19:09:39 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:09:39 +0000 Subject: HW: Reissue news from Chery Red Message-ID: can you paste the article in an email? i cant open the url/pdf file for some reason- ----- Original Message ---- From: Jason Scruton To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 10:10:56 PM Subject: HW: Reissue news from Chery Red For their official text: http://cherryred.co.uk/crzone/newsletters/0807.pdf Check out the 2nd page, "Editorial" column. So I reckon that Atomhenge is their HW-only offshoot? J. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 19:16:20 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:16:20 +0000 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: of course nobody like EMI own the rights for Warrior. Why wasnt this remastered by EMI? its probably their most well known LP next to SR. We had Dojo mastering it from vinyl, we had weird artwork on the USA one. I used to own the Dojo and now have shitty Rock Fever one. I wonder if there will be digipaks like Love In Space........................ ----- Original Message ---- From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 7:52:30 PM Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Wow thats great news. Its time to chuck those Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirate issues of Warrior and the Virgin CDs out for the definitive Atomhenge editions! ----- Original Message ---- From: Johan Edlundh To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:05:36 AM Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Got a mail from CD Services today; --------------------------------------- [...] We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', 'Choose Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more recent works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and all should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the original master tapes), Content and Packaging. November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) from the beginning of 2009. There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes and vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on that score in the coming months ahead. [...] --------------------------------------- This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior on the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk reissues? ;0) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 19:20:17 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:20:17 +0000 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: i might sell them to at 30 bu i think you are an idiot like trev said. i might sell them to at 30 bucks a pop when the remasters come out. i sent your money so be nice to me. & explain the last sentence................???????????????????? ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 1:11:05 AM Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label *you are a complete idiot* *crocs in your shoe wardrobe no doubt* On 8/5/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > i will donate the Rock Fever and Sun Rise pirates to charity but not to > Mike. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, 5 August, 2008 12:14:23 AM > Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > screw everything, they are talking singles boxes and LP editions > YES > YES > do this first > I knew of this (except I somehow missed the above in my stolen replanted > transmission), but shame on CD services for not spamming this list (hehe) > mike > I still want to know how the new "Bring Me The Head" is...they put Yuri on > the cover looks like...not bad > > On 8/4/08, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > > > --------------------------------------- > > [...] > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > > > Over the next eighteen months, every HAWKWIND album from 'Astounding > > Sounds...' to 'Distant Horizons', together with all Singles, EP's and > > Associated Recordings will be made available again on CD. > > > > Among the list of albums to come are classics such as: 'Quark, > Strangeness > > & Charm', '25 Years On', 'Live '79', 'Levitation', 'Sonic Attack', > 'Choose > > Your Masques' and 'Chronicle Of The Black Sword', through to the more > recent > > works such as: 'Alien 4', 'Love In Space' and 'Distant Horizons'. > > > > All the albums will be released as "Expanded, Remastered Editions" and > all > > should include Previously Unreleased Bonus Material. These will be the > > Definitive Editions in terms of Audio Remastering (all coming from the > > original master tapes), Content and Packaging. > > > > November 2008 will see the start of the Hawkwind back-catalogue campaign; > > with two newly remastered 3CD Anthology sets compiled from Albums and > > Singles released during the periods 1976-1984 and 1985-1997. > > The original album release schedule will swing into action (in stages) > from > > the beginning of 2009. > > > > There is a possibility that there may be some special fan singles boxes > and > > vinyl editions of the albums, but let's just wait and see what happens on > > that score in the coming months ahead. > > [...] > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > This means that everything in the entire Hawk Catalouge, but the Warrior > on > > the Edge of Time, will be available in remastered mode in a near future. > > > > Will those of us that is Kompletists survive this massive attack of Hawk > > reissues? ;0) > > > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Aug 6 12:04:15 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:04:15 +0000 Subject: see the OEBs in NYC on August 14th ( sitting in w/Moogy Klingman band ) or 23rd..unique venues too! Message-ID: The One Eyed Bishops w/Stewkey of NAZZ will be playing a show at 'Uncle Mike's in the Tribeca section of Manhattan..The following press release gives all the details..Cheers! Mike http://www.prlog.org/10091841-classic-rockers-to-make-stop-in-tribeca-nyc-august-23rd.html Stewkey ( of NAZZ ) and Mike Burro (OEBs ) to guest with Moogy Klingman band, next thursday August 14th..FREE ADMISSION Hi Friends, I want to pass on the information below about a weekly gathering put on by The Moogy Klingman Band. It's called 'Last Days', and it's going to be a great series. If you have a free Thursday night, and you are in or near New York City, you should try to come out for this, because there is no admission price and you will have the opportunity to see some of the city's top players and singers. I will be guesting along with Stewkey of NAZZ on August 14th.Hope to see some of you there! Peace, Mike Burro http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 http://www.myspace.com/nazzfeaturingstewkey Moogy's message and info below> Hi Folks, We're having summer fun every Thursday nite at Sapphire starting this Thursday, July 31st. Sapphire, an absolutely beautiful air conditioned club down on 249 Eldridge street, one block west of 1st Avenue, just a few doors down from Houston street. It's in the heart of the East Village and it's one happening area. There's no cover or admission (though we will be passing the hat for the band) and it's just a one drink minimum and there will be cheap drink deals. It's going to be a singer's showcase as well as my band with Jim Satten on guitar, Denny Mcdermett on drums and Even Steven Levee on bass. It's going for 5 Thursdays, 7 to 10 pm, July 31st, August 7th, Aug. 14th, Aug 21st, and Aug 28th. We're gonna have the best singers in NYC sitting in with us, and some great players. Please don't miss it.- Moogy Moogy Klingman/Jim Satten band with Even Steven Levee & Denny McDermett "The Singer's showcase" I Sapphire at 249 Eldridge st. 1 block west of 1st Avenue at Houston st. 7 to 10 pm, Thursdays July 31st, Aug. 7th, Aug. 14th, Aug. 21st, Aug.28th!! in Manhattan's East Village - No Cover, cheap drink deals!! reservations - moogyking at aol.com or 212 724 0242 Don't miss the Moogy Klingman band's YouTube videos at the moogymusic. com website!! Moogy Klingman - Moogy was a founding member of Todd Rundgren's "Utopia". Moogy will be performing the Utopia theme as well as songs from his Capitol, EMI and Moogymusic solo albums - songs that went on to be recorded by people like Johny Winter, Eric Clapton, Barry Manilow, Bette Midler, Todd Rundgren and others. Moogy's band will be playing other songs he wrote like "Dust in the Wind" which Todd Rundgren recorded on his "Something, Anything" album and Axel Rose & Guns & Roses does live in concert (on their very occasional gigs).He'll also be doing a song he co-wrote with Buzzy Linhart called, "You Gotta Have Friends', which is Bett Midler's theme song. Moogy has played, recorded and/or had his songs covered by many rock legends, including Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Luther Van Dross, Bob Dylan, Bo Diddley, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Allan Woody and Warren Haynes from the Allman Bros & Gov't Mule. Moogy has worked with great female rockers like Bette Midler, Carly Simon, Cindy Lauper, Shawn Colvin, Irene Cara, and Thelma Houston. www. moogymusic. com Jim Satin on guitar is a Blues/R & B guitar legend. He was Bo Diddley's lead guitarist and band leader for 14 years and lead the Ron Wood Band (of the Rolling Stones) on a world tour. He and Moogy also played together in the "Moogy/Woody Band" with Allmans Brothers alumni Allan Woody, and Warren Haynes. Jim was Ronnie Spector and the Ronette's guitarist and band leader for several years (she was just inducted into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame). Jim has played guitar for the original Temptations (David Ruffin & Eddie Kendricks), and Sam and Dave, among many other great blues and R & B acts. Jim played guitar on the Buzzy Linhart/Moogy Klingman mini - tour with Phoebe Snow as guest vocalist, last summer. www. jimsatten. com Even Steven Levee has been recording and playing bass with Moogy for many years in bands like "Moogy and the Mojo's" and "Freak Parade". Even also performed on the Buzzy Linhart/Moogy Klingman mini -tour with Phoebe Snow. Even has worked with many blues, rock and fusion acts including Blues The Hard Way, Brad Factor:10, Lost At Home, Life Force and he appears on RattleSnake Guitar: The Music of Peter Green CD and The Peter Green Song Book. In addition Even is a producer for i-Potato Music working with MC Magic D, Gun Hill, Barbara Lee George and Lovin' Spoonful founding member, Joe Butler. Even's website is www. bassmastergeneral. com Denny McDermett has played drums with Moogy on many occasion throughout the years. Denny also plays drums for many great acts including Donald Fagan of Steely Dan, Phoebe Snow and The Bacon Brothers. He is considered one of NYC's top drummers. http://www. granatino. com/sdresource/17mcderm. htm _________________________________________________________________ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 6 13:43:57 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:43:57 -0500 Subject: Eli's Hawkwind 45's on eBay Message-ID: just a reminder that Eli Friedman has some extremely rare Hawkwind 45's ending today, and for anybody here in the states you may want to think again with the shipping rates these days and such more later mike From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 6 14:17:41 2008 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:17:41 -0400 Subject: Fwd: (OFF) Eli's Hawkwind 45's on eBay In-Reply-To: <8CAC606ABA5F06D-C80-3B5@webmail-me15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks very much for the mention, Mike. I have to admit that I'm surprised that last time I looked there were about 15 45's with minimum bids of 5 dollars with no bidders. Where have all the HawkFans gone? Maybe all the fans have their copies already. And for you on the list, I'd like to mention that I've added a bunch of rare LP's to Ebay as well, and will add more over the next couple of days. Thanks everybody, Yours, Eli -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 1:43 pm Subject: Eli's Hawkwind 45's on eBay just a reminder that Eli Friedman has some extremely rare Hawkwind 45's ending today, and for anybody here in the states you may want to think again with the shipping rates these days and such more later mike From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Aug 6 14:12:21 2008 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:12:21 +0200 Subject: HW Knights of Space Message-ID: Hello I just got my copy and boy can I say I am quite disappointed. While it is a great set list the sound at the beginning is terrible. It gets better but does no one in the band even check this stuff out? During the first song and during a lot of the concert when Tim plays the theremin you can't hear it at all or barely. It is mixed well at times but at the beginning they show him playing it and you can't hear it at all. Dave's guitar is basically missing for a lot of the concert. It is never loud enough and most of the time sounds like he is playing in another room. I also really don't like Jason's new age piano stuff mixed into so many of the old tracks. It just makes the music too new age and not spacey. The spacey sounds are now this nice and movie friendly pinao lines. It is ok on Paradox but it also in Aliem I am as a dominant piece, in Master of the universe, etc... The bass is by far the most dominant instrument in the mix. The vocals sound great but I just don't understand why it sounds the way it does if they had real multitracks to mix. Pity.... Anyway, I say don't go for it unless you really have to. Still one of my all time favorite bands but this is like 2 stars out of 5. Scott ______________ Scott Heller This e-mail (including any attachments) is intended for the addressee(s) stated above only and may contain confidential information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorised reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information contained herein is strictly prohibited and may violate rights to proprietary information. If you are not an intended recipient, please return this e-mail to the sender and delete it immediately hereafter. Thank you. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 6 14:34:31 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:34:31 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Eli's Hawkwind 45's on eBay In-Reply-To: <8CAC607D9B6B61C-C80-47A@webmail-me15.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On 06 Aug 2008, at 13:17 , elipxr5 at AOL.COM wrote: > I have to admit that I'm > surprised that last time I looked there were about 15 45's with > minimum > bids of 5 dollars with no bidders. Where have all the HawkFans gone? > Maybe all the fans have their copies already. Perhaps at least all the fans with vinyl-playing turntables already have their copies, at least. :) I would need to be a bigger-K collector to go for vinyl singles, since the last time I had regular access to a turntable was as a teenager in my parents' house, and most everything HW released as a vinyl single I have on one CD release or another. :) Buying vinyl singles would be something of a wild extravagance for me! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 6 14:50:22 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:50:22 EDT Subject: HW Knights of Space Message-ID: Well, I have to and I have done. I just made the mistake of ordering from Amazon again. I should have learned my lesson after the TMTYL fiasco, but noooo. It concerns me what you say about the sound. During the Question Time at Hawkfest, remastering was mentioned for the albums soon to be re-issued on Cheery Red. Dave said the band aren't doing it, someone else is. I just hope we don't have a major f*** up with these re-issues. Deep Purple got it perfectly right, the mixes and mastering was all done by Roger Glover. If Dave has no input on this (and he bloody well should do) Zarquon knows what it will turn out like. Sorry to put a negative on a positive. I just want it to be right. Steve. In a message dated 06/08/2008 19:31:01 GMT Standard Time, shll at HAGEDORN.DK writes: Anyway, I say don't go for it unless you really have to. Still one of my all time favorite bands but this is like 2 stars out of 5. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 6 14:52:22 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:52:22 EDT Subject: (OFF) Eli's Hawkwind 45's on eBay Message-ID: We're always lurking around somewhere in Void City. StevePXR5 In a message dated 06/08/2008 19:19:10 GMT Standard Time, elipxr5 at AOL.COM writes: Where have all the HawkFans gone? From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Aug 6 14:54:17 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 18:54:17 +0000 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The reissue programme is, as I understand it, being overseen by Mark and Vicky of Esoteric which is part of the Cherry Red family and given the loving care with which their product has been treated in the past, I really don't think anyone has to worry about the Hawkwind catalogue... seems in excellent hands to me! ? Ian --- On Wed, 8/6/08, StevePXR5 at AOL.COM wrote: From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Subject: Re: HW Knights of Space To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:50 PM Well, I have to and I have done. I just made the mistake of ordering from Amazon again. I should have learned my lesson after the TMTYL fiasco, but noooo. It concerns me what you say about the sound. During the Question Time at Hawkfest, remastering was mentioned for the albums soon to be re-issued on Cheery Red. Dave said the band aren't doing it, someone else is. I just hope we don't have a major f*** up with these re-issues. Deep Purple got it perfectly right, the mixes and mastering was all done by Roger Glover. If Dave has no input on this (and he bloody well should do) Zarquon knows what it will turn out like. Sorry to put a negative on a positive. I just want it to be right. Steve. In a message dated 06/08/2008 19:31:01 GMT Standard Time, shll at HAGEDORN.DK writes: Anyway, I say don't go for it unless you really have to. Still one of my all time favorite bands but this is like 2 stars out of 5. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 6 14:57:25 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:57:25 EDT Subject: HW Knights of Space Message-ID: Thanks Ian. I'll be able to sleep now :-) Cheers, Steve. In a message dated 06/08/2008 19:55:24 GMT Standard Time, ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK writes: The reissue programme is, as I understand it, being overseen by Mark and Vicky of Esoteric which is part of the Cherry Red family and given the loving care with which their product has been treated in the past, I really don't think anyone has to worry about the Hawkwind catalogue... seems in excellent hands to me! From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Aug 6 15:01:03 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:01:03 +0000 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Really? The anticipation is keeping the rest of us up! :) ? Even me, who didn't even bother with TMTYL or Knights of Space or, or, or... :) ? Ian --- On Wed, 8/6/08, StevePXR5 at AOL.COM wrote: From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Subject: Re: HW Knights of Space To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 7:57 PM Thanks Ian. I'll be able to sleep now :-) Cheers, Steve. In a message dated 06/08/2008 19:55:24 GMT Standard Time, ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK writes: The reissue programme is, as I understand it, being overseen by Mark and Vicky of Esoteric which is part of the Cherry Red family and given the loving care with which their product has been treated in the past, I really don't think anyone has to worry about the Hawkwind catalogue... seems in excellent hands to me! From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 6 15:08:02 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:08:02 EDT Subject: HW Knights of Space Message-ID: I haven't even received the Knights DVD yet. Cancelled the Amazon order and re-ordered from Play.com. Was posted Saturday but not here yet. I really was hoping it would be as I am working later tomorrow then going to see Diamond Head, so won't have chance to sit down and watch it. It'll make for a good Friday night though... may even get the Absynth out. Make that a GREAT Friday night. Cheers, Steve. In a message dated 06/08/2008 20:01:56 GMT Standard Time, ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK writes: Really? The anticipation is keeping the rest of us up! :) Even me, who didn't even bother with TMTYL or Knights of Space or, or, or... :) Ian From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 6 15:11:35 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:11:35 -0700 Subject: HW Knights of Space Message-ID: Which Purple albums did Roger Glover remix? His period with Gillan? Gary ----- Original Message ---- From: "StevePXR5 at AOL.COM" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 1:50:22 PM Subject: Re: HW Knights of Space Well, I have to and I have done. I just made the mistake of ordering from? Amazon again. I should have learned my lesson after the TMTYL fiasco, but? noooo. It concerns me what you say about the sound. During the Question Time at? Hawkfest, remastering was mentioned for the albums soon to be re-issued on? Cheery Red. Dave said the band aren't doing it, someone else is. I just hope we don't have a major f*** up with these re-issues. Deep Purple got it perfectly right, the mixes and mastering was all done by? Roger Glover. If Dave has no input on this (and he bloody well should do) Zarquon knows? what it will turn out like. Sorry to put a negative on a positive. I just want it to be right. Steve. In a message dated 06/08/2008 19:31:01 GMT Standard Time, shll at HAGEDORN.DK? writes: Anyway,? I say don't go for it unless you really have to. Still one of my all time? favorite bands but this is like 2 stars out of 5. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 6 15:26:45 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:26:45 EDT Subject: Eli's Hawkwind 45's on eBay Message-ID: Eli's shipping rates are a tad on the high side, especially if you buy multiple items. Full shipping for the first item, then 50% discount on shipping for each item thereafter. Shipping is priced by weight. I paid nearly double the shiiping cost for the items I purchased. He is very fast and reliable though. Shame about the overpriced shipping. Steve. In a message dated 06/08/2008 18:44:59 GMT Standard Time, insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: just a reminder that Eli Friedman has some extremely rare Hawkwind 45's ending today, and for anybody here in the states you may want to think again with the shipping rates these days and such From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 6 15:46:27 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:46:27 -0400 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <40447B7E-A1B4-4DDD-8F39-6CA435E99385@carlaz.com> Message-ID: I want both. Roadburn should have been released as a full show on CD, nice live performance by everyone.. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Hey, and wait! While we're at it, can we please have a release of that much-discussed Roadburn performance from a couple of years back? I'd much rather buy that than a remastered _Distant Horizons_ with bonus tracks! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Aug 6 15:56:30 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:56:30 -0400 Subject: Just back from Hawkfest In-Reply-To: <200808041910.m74JAaQs009730@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I almost feel like I was there, sounds like a great time. Happy trails, Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:11 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Just back from Hawkfest Just got back and I'm afraid too much work to do a full review as yet. I'd like to say though that this was easily the best Hawkfest yet. The weather stayed fine (too hot if anything) the whole weekend. The infrastructure held out, with water being generally available and the toilets being emptied and cleaned every day. The real ale in the bars was good and the choice of food quite decent. The bands were great and I'm only sorry that the marquees were too hot during the day and we had to listen from outside. I hope the bands weren't too discouraged by the numbers of us who did this. The only thing I could think of to improve was that there be a couple of communal fires by the stalls where people could meet and chat. Omnia Opera had a very good fire setup that was off the ground and I enjoyed a chat with them on the last night. It would be good to see more of that, and perhaps the folks from crew camping could pop out for a chat with the fans. So a huge THANK-YOU to Kris, Margaret, Dave, the bands, the crews and everyone who contributed. It was a masterpicece of organisation. We enjoyed it immensely and it was great to spend time with you other fans. FoFP -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 6 15:58:26 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:58:26 -0500 Subject: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 06 Aug 2008, at 14:46 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > Roadburn should have been released as a full show on CD, nice > live performance by everyone Amen! :) It really stood out in my mind as one of the best live HW recordings (certainly in terms of performance) in quite a number of years. And that was just on the strength of the Roadburn RealAudio stream! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 6 16:34:03 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:34:03 -0500 Subject: Eli's Hawkwind 45's on eBay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I never looked at his shipping rates come to think of it, but I know they pack stuff beyond beyond the normal way that is causing wonderful albums do be destroyed all across the world every day, listen.....do you hear that....ohh another crunched package and dented corners......I fantasize about going into the mailer business, since proper boxes exist, but most don't have ot use them...... 45 singles however, do not seem to require all that....hmm....maybe something for him to consider...I don't know... also, the international rates now days have deflated all the fun :( On 8/6/08, StevePXR5 at aol.com wrote: > > > Eli's shipping rates are a tad on the high side, especially if you buy > multiple items. > Full shipping for the first item, then 50% discount on shipping for each > item thereafter. Shipping is priced by weight. I paid nearly double the > shiiping > cost for the items I purchased. > He is very fast and reliable though. Shame about the overpriced shipping. > Steve. > > In a message dated 06/08/2008 18:44:59 GMT Standard Time, > insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: > > just a reminder that Eli Friedman has some extremely rare Hawkwind 45's > ending today, and for anybody here in the states you may want to think > again > with the shipping rates these days and such > > > > > > > > > From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 6 17:33:25 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:33:25 EDT Subject: HW remasters Message-ID: It would be good to take the Motorhead route and issue each CD as a double with a live disc relevant to that tour. Steve. PS - I like the idea of a Distant Horizons EP to improve on the quality of the original full length thing. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Aug 6 20:15:03 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:15:03 +0100 Subject: Off: AMON DUUL question In-Reply-To: <105572.29054.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 01:12:44PM -0700, Keith Henderson typed out: > CM asks... > > Amon D??l (UK) - Meeting With Menmachines (CD) > > I don't have the CD, but I used to own the vinyl, which had a similar title (longer...MWM Inglorious Heroes of the Past or something). With Ms. Waring on vocals...mostly lousy poppy tunes with her, um, interesting voice. I mean, she's pretty annoying. I have this on vinyl, and the title is as Keith describes; also the quality, though I found Ms Waring's vocals less annoying than Mr Anderson's, mainly because her words are more interesting. His I find sub-par Mick Farren butchered for rhyme. The best bits are undoubtedly when they're both quiet, but it's still fairly dull jamming and I wouldn't say it was necessary for anything except Kollector purposes. Yours, Jon ObMP3s: Inner City Unit , _Maximum Effect_ demos -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 6 21:36:51 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:36:51 -0400 Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation Message-ID: I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on doremi.co.uk. Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort of wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a recording like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be constantly puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it seemed to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded into a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 7 02:48:43 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:48:43 -0500 Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Owen, just in case you didn't know, and you might, the "proper version" comes from the rarish ICU album called "Ersatz", by the Barney Bubbles inspired ICU family under the name of "The Imperial Pompadours" ......it's got some more regular tracks like "King Bee", and "Light Show, etc, etc (on side one, from memory)...and the massive hit "Moo Goo Gai Pan" most people can't handle the album, but I bet you could, like me.... please direct any offers of this LP to me, a couple copies are needed and I know most of you can't stand it anyway On 8/6/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on > doremi.co.uk. > Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort of > wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a recording > like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different > "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. > (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the > craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been > studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be > constantly > puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it seemed > to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly > prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded > into > a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From steve.bishop at DB.COM Thu Aug 7 06:05:59 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:05:59 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Daily Mail today ! In-Reply-To: <17d80c610807230741r57faa57cp24ce78456633d581@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Picture n all ! Page 61 of my edition in the 'Answers to Correspondents' section with article about what the 'Silver Machine' was in the Hawkwind song .............. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 7 08:57:11 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:57:11 +0100 Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Insolence across the Nation was the brainchild of Barney Bubbles and was created by Nik Turner on a Teak 4 track recorder. I'm on it, Dead Fred is on it, and Bob Calvert is on it. It is currently available in it's massive entirety as the 10th track on "Judgement and Thunder", available here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html It is the most unsettling and frightening track I have ever heard and I admit that I am afraid to listen to it (I've played it twice). It is a work of great genius and I would advise the whole list to buy at least 2 copies each...cough! It was released on F Beat records but was soon withdrawn because they discovered that the soundtrack includes copyright performances by many orchestra's, including, I believe the London Philharmonic. I am bravely bootlegging it for the betterment of mankind and any record company who raises an eyebrow at my release will be going home in an ambulance! it's a tenner plus postage Judge Trev tel: 0044 (0)1273 387645 REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, Video Downloads, News, Healers -------------------------------------------------- From: "Owen O'Neill" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:36 AM To: Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on > doremi.co.uk. > Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort of > wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a recording > like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different > "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. > (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the > craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been > studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be > constantly > puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it > seemed > to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly > prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded > into > a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 7 09:05:13 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:05:13 -0400 Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808062348n4432031dnb6d6450f6ba7ca15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A friend of mine wrote to Dead Fred a couple of years ago and got the all the mp3s of that album,except the B side. Also he sent an earlier (original?) version of Motorcycle Boots in French that I'm listening to now: L_homme_A_La_Moto. That was the greatest thing putting their whole catalog online, I'd have not heard none of it otherwise minus some tracks that went on Friends&Relations, maybe now on youtube those awful videos. Other trivia from Insolence: The monologue that starts "I am sometimes filled with a depressing fear, you know..." --just noticed myself recently that it's from the movie M by Fritz Lang. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:48 AM, mike coleman wrote: > Hi Owen, just in case you didn't know, and you might, the "proper version" > comes from the rarish ICU album called "Ersatz", by the Barney Bubbles > inspired ICU family under the name of "The Imperial Pompadours" > > ......it's got some more regular tracks like "King Bee", and "Light Show, > etc, etc (on side one, from memory)...and the massive hit "Moo Goo Gai Pan" > most people can't handle the album, but I bet you could, like me.... > please direct any offers of this LP to me, a couple copies are needed and I > know most of you can't stand it anyway > > On 8/6/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: > > > > I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on > > doremi.co.uk. > > Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort of > > wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a recording > > like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different > > "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. > > (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the > > craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been > > studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be > > constantly > > puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it > seemed > > to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly > > prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded > > into > > a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) > > > > > > -- > > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > > > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 7 09:10:31 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:10:31 +0100 Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808062348n4432031dnb6d6450f6ba7ca15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ersatz is completely rare as it was withdrawn as i said. don't buy it off mike coleman, buy "insolence" on judgement and thunder from me me me me me i've got an ersatz and no one is having it. anyway, anything you buy from coleman will stink of the horrible sweat from his unkempt steamy texan appartment. Long Live Santa Anna! judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:48 AM To: Subject: Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > Hi Owen, just in case you didn't know, and you might, the "proper version" > comes from the rarish ICU album called "Ersatz", by the Barney Bubbles > inspired ICU family under the name of "The Imperial Pompadours" > > ......it's got some more regular tracks like "King Bee", and "Light Show, > etc, etc (on side one, from memory)...and the massive hit "Moo Goo Gai > Pan" > most people can't handle the album, but I bet you could, like me.... > please direct any offers of this LP to me, a couple copies are needed and > I > know most of you can't stand it anyway > > On 8/6/08, Owen O'Neill wrote: >> >> I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on >> doremi.co.uk. >> Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort of >> wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a recording >> like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different >> "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. >> (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the >> craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been >> studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be >> constantly >> puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it >> seemed >> to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly >> prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded >> into >> a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) >> >> >> -- >> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> > From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 7 09:30:49 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:30:49 -0400 Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What Hey! Nice. I listened to it on a hit of acid once. Draw the curtains... it's daylight... The rest of the album should be good too. What's Insolence mastered from? I just saw the video of you on youtube playing Ghost Riders. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:57 AM, trev wrote: > Insolence across the Nation was the brainchild of Barney Bubbles and was > created by Nik Turner on a Teak 4 track recorder. I'm on it, Dead Fred is > on it, and Bob Calvert is on it. It is currently available in it's massive > entirety as the 10th track on "Judgement and Thunder", available here: > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > It is the most unsettling and frightening track I have ever heard and I > admit that I am afraid to listen to it (I've played it twice). It is a work > of great genius and I would advise the whole list to buy at least 2 copies > each...cough! > It was released on F Beat records but was soon withdrawn because they > discovered that the soundtrack includes copyright performances by many > orchestra's, including, I believe the London Philharmonic. I am bravely > bootlegging it for the betterment of mankind and any record company who > raises an eyebrow at my release will be going home in an ambulance! > > it's a tenner plus postage > > Judge Trev > > tel: 0044 (0)1273 387645 > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, Video Downloads, > News, Healers > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Owen O'Neill" > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:36 AM > To: > Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > > > I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on >> doremi.co.uk. >> Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort of >> wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a recording >> like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different >> "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. >> (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the >> craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been >> studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be >> constantly >> puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it >> seemed >> to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly >> prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded >> into >> a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) >> >> >> -- >> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> >> -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 7 10:11:00 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:11:00 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind in Daily Mail today ! Message-ID: Can you scan it and forward it to us Yanks? ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Bishop To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 5:05:59 AM Subject: Hawkwind in Daily Mail today ! Picture n all ! Page 61 of my edition in the 'Answers to Correspondents' section with article about what the 'Silver Machine' was in the Hawkwind song .............. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From steve.bishop at DB.COM Thu Aug 7 10:31:48 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:31:48 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Daily Mail today ! In-Reply-To: <562974.33310.qm@web36901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tried to attach a p d f scan of the article but wouldn't get through to the Group. I've sent to Starfarer too no probs so maybe it'll be on that site soon ? --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 7 10:40:58 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:40:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <406550.51536.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 02:41:58AM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer typed out: > PT interested folk, an off observation for BOC-l: the demo version of > this Porcupine Tree song is totally different in lyrics then what > appeared on "Stupid Dream" - its really cool how its totally opposite > meanings and last minute changes to totally diff. lyrics. Too tired to > type ALL them out but its really cool how they differ so much.- the > first is about innocent Jesus and praying to God and a killer striking > twice in a night, no mention of a Friend I cannot reach or being a > martyr, for the grace of god for even less. Great song both versions! > I enjoy how they are totally different. The demo is a must hear, its > very negative. It's not quite as different as you think, in fact; the full version of the track on _Recordings_ has all the lyrics of the demo version, but the controversial ones are all shunted into the latter half, so that they don't make the _Stupid Dream_ edit version. The `killer' stanza is gone but pretty much everything else remains, including some angry flailing against the Bible I imagine you'd enjoy. The second half was also a B-side somewhere I think, I mean they milked those three albums so dry it hurt to squeeze them. That was about when I realised I was finished with being a PT Kollector. > I also love "Piano Lessons" lyrics. The lyrics are all that stop `How Is Your Life Today?' being `Piano Lessons' take 2, in fact. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Aug 7 11:40:04 2008 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:40:04 EDT Subject: HW Knights of Space Message-ID: Mark and Vicky did a great job with Nektar material, if that's any indication, we have no worries. bs **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 7 12:03:29 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:03:29 +0100 Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: it's mastered from the yinyl and then cleaned up a bit the sound quality on the original is not what you'd call hi fi as it was created on a teak 4 track tape recorder using the crude overdubbing that was de rigeur in the early 80's the performance however is terrifying "mutti...muti....aaaaaaaagh" "don't want to...don't want to...but must... MUST....SCREEEEEAM I CAN KEEP MY ARM RAISED FOR TWO HOURS...TWO HOURS..(as his storm troopers parade) oh gawd country and western is much safer -------------------------------------------------- From: "Owen O'Neill" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:30 PM To: Subject: Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > What Hey! Nice. I listened to it on a hit of acid once. Draw the > curtains... > it's daylight... The rest of the album should be good too. What's > Insolence > mastered from? I just saw the video of you on youtube playing Ghost > Riders. > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:57 AM, trev wrote: > >> Insolence across the Nation was the brainchild of Barney Bubbles and was >> created by Nik Turner on a Teak 4 track recorder. I'm on it, Dead Fred >> is >> on it, and Bob Calvert is on it. It is currently available in it's >> massive >> entirety as the 10th track on "Judgement and Thunder", available here: >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html >> It is the most unsettling and frightening track I have ever heard and I >> admit that I am afraid to listen to it (I've played it twice). It is a >> work >> of great genius and I would advise the whole list to buy at least 2 >> copies >> each...cough! >> It was released on F Beat records but was soon withdrawn because they >> discovered that the soundtrack includes copyright performances by many >> orchestra's, including, I believe the London Philharmonic. I am bravely >> bootlegging it for the betterment of mankind and any record company who >> raises an eyebrow at my release will be going home in an ambulance! >> >> it's a tenner plus postage >> >> Judge Trev >> >> tel: 0044 (0)1273 387645 >> REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk >> Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, Video >> Downloads, >> News, Healers >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Owen O'Neill" >> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:36 AM >> To: >> Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation >> >> >> I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on >>> doremi.co.uk. >>> Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort >>> of >>> wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a >>> recording >>> like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different >>> "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. >>> (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the >>> craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been >>> studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be >>> constantly >>> puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it >>> seemed >>> to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly >>> prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded >>> into >>> a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >>> >>> > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 11:36:43 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:36:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: I tried liking PT in the 90s on the Delerium label, got a bunch of stuff from BOC-L'er Randy Abeck (where is he now) on cassette after reading about Wilson in magazines like Freak Beat etc. Stuff like "Sky Moves Sideways" i thought was pretty boring. I got "Signify" on Delerium CD when it came out and it bored me AGAIN! I traded the CD off in rec.music.progressive, I never got beyond the long whoshes of Floyd numbness. BUT, when I started getting into music again after tossing all my HW and other CDs in the bin (i swore I was without need for any of it), around 2003-4, well I discovered that PT had turned METAL and gotten much attention and were huge in prog circles when Prog became cool (or uncool, if you think Radiohead has anything to do with Prog then hang yourself) again I started downloading PT on The Pirate Bay and thought they were a band I really had missed out on with stuff like "Stupid Dream" which i really liked. So I now have most PT CDs on either CDRs and some remasters of the early Delerium and have taken a liking to them. I got "Nil Recurring" and was really disappointed in it. "Fear" and "Deadwing" were pretty cool though. I think its bizarre how they went metal but it works. Did they sell out, that is the question. Christian ----- Original Message ---- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 7 August, 2008 4:40:58 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 02:41:58AM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer typed out: > PT interested folk, an off observation for BOC-l: the demo version of > this Porcupine Tree song is totally different in lyrics then what > appeared on "Stupid Dream" - its really cool how its totally opposite > meanings and last minute changes to totally diff. lyrics. Too tired to > type ALL them out but its really cool how they differ so much.- the > first is about innocent Jesus and praying to God and a killer striking > twice in a night, no mention of a Friend I cannot reach or being a > martyr, for the grace of god for even less. Great song both versions! > I enjoy how they are totally different. The demo is a must hear, its > very negative. It's not quite as different as you think, in fact; the full version of the track on _Recordings_ has all the lyrics of the demo version, but the controversial ones are all shunted into the latter half, so that they don't make the _Stupid Dream_ edit version. The `killer' stanza is gone but pretty much everything else remains, including some angry flailing against the Bible I imagine you'd enjoy. The second half was also a B-side somewhere I think, I mean they milked those three albums so dry it hurt to squeeze them. That was about when I realised I was finished with being a PT Kollector. > I also love "Piano Lessons" lyrics. The lyrics are all that stop `How Is Your Life Today?' being `Piano Lessons' take 2, in fact. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 11:40:36 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:40:36 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: I think Steven Wilson is the Great Beast of Metal, and his number is 666! All hail and drink a case of Meister Braus. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 7 August, 2008 4:40:58 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 02:41:58AM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer typed out: > PT interested folk, an off observation for BOC-l: the demo version of > this Porcupine Tree song is totally different in lyrics then what > appeared on "Stupid Dream" - its really cool how its totally opposite > meanings and last minute changes to totally diff. lyrics. Too tired to > type ALL them out but its really cool how they differ so much.- the > first is about innocent Jesus and praying to God and a killer striking > twice in a night, no mention of a Friend I cannot reach or being a > martyr, for the grace of god for even less. Great song both versions! > I enjoy how they are totally different. The demo is a must hear, its > very negative. It's not quite as different as you think, in fact; the full version of the track on _Recordings_ has all the lyrics of the demo version, but the controversial ones are all shunted into the latter half, so that they don't make the _Stupid Dream_ edit version. The `killer' stanza is gone but pretty much everything else remains, including some angry flailing against the Bible I imagine you'd enjoy. The second half was also a B-side somewhere I think, I mean they milked those three albums so dry it hurt to squeeze them. That was about when I realised I was finished with being a PT Kollector. > I also love "Piano Lessons" lyrics. The lyrics are all that stop `How Is Your Life Today?' being `Piano Lessons' take 2, in fact. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Aug 7 15:26:36 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:26:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <303005.59409.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 07 Aug 2008, at 10:36 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > I think its bizarre how they went metal but it works. Did they sell > out, that is the question. What a wonderful world it would be if people could successfully sell out by going metal! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 7 16:39:34 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:39:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <20080807144058.GK13335@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: and the third version on Ambulance Chasers bootleg of stupid dream demos - different again. Steve On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Jonathan Jarrett < jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 02:41:58AM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer typed out: > > PT interested folk, an off observation for BOC-l: the demo version of > > this Porcupine Tree song is totally different in lyrics then what > > appeared on "Stupid Dream" - its really cool how its totally opposite > > meanings and last minute changes to totally diff. lyrics. Too tired to > > type ALL them out but its really cool how they differ so much.- the > > first is about innocent Jesus and praying to God and a killer striking > > twice in a night, no mention of a Friend I cannot reach or being a > > martyr, for the grace of god for even less. Great song both versions! > > I enjoy how they are totally different. The demo is a must hear, its > > very negative. > > It's not quite as different as you think, in fact; the full > version of the track on _Recordings_ has all the lyrics of the demo > version, but the controversial ones are all shunted into the latter > half, so that they don't make the _Stupid Dream_ edit version. The > `killer' stanza is gone but pretty much everything else remains, > including some angry flailing against the Bible I imagine you'd enjoy. > The second half was also a B-side somewhere I think, I mean they milked > those three albums so dry it hurt to squeeze them. That was about when I > realised I was finished with being a PT Kollector. > > > I also love "Piano Lessons" lyrics. > > The lyrics are all that stop `How Is Your Life Today?' being > `Piano Lessons' take 2, in fact. Yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 7 17:15:04 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:15:04 +0100 Subject: Inner City Unit gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is now confirmed that Dino Ferari, ICU's original drummer, will be flying over from Rome to play at these gigs and will be playing alongside Myreg. yes a double-kit line up! Woooooo > > Inner City Unit are young and good-looking...cough! > > Featuring: Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Dino Ferari, Commander Jim Hawkman, > Nazer Ali > Khan, Myreg Griffiths, Mekon > > > > Thursday 28th August - Real Music Club, The Greenhouse Effect, 63 Church > Road, Hove, Brighton, Sussex > > www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/realmusicclub1.html > > > > > Friday 29th August - Glastonbury Assembly Rooms, High Street, > Glastonbury, Somerset > > http://www.assemblyrooms.org.uk/ > > > > Saturday 30th August - Inn on the Green, 3 - 5 Thorpe Close, Ladbroke > Grove, London W10 5XL > > http://www.iotg.co.uk/common-page.asp?id=home > > > > > ICU MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/nikturnerinnercityunit > > > > > FREEDOM! -------------------------------------------------- From: "Owen O'Neill" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:30 PM To: Subject: Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > What Hey! Nice. I listened to it on a hit of acid once. Draw the > curtains... > it's daylight... The rest of the album should be good too. What's > Insolence > mastered from? I just saw the video of you on youtube playing Ghost > Riders. > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:57 AM, trev wrote: > >> Insolence across the Nation was the brainchild of Barney Bubbles and was >> created by Nik Turner on a Teak 4 track recorder. I'm on it, Dead Fred >> is >> on it, and Bob Calvert is on it. It is currently available in it's >> massive >> entirety as the 10th track on "Judgement and Thunder", available here: >> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html >> It is the most unsettling and frightening track I have ever heard and I >> admit that I am afraid to listen to it (I've played it twice). It is a >> work >> of great genius and I would advise the whole list to buy at least 2 >> copies >> each...cough! >> It was released on F Beat records but was soon withdrawn because they >> discovered that the soundtrack includes copyright performances by many >> orchestra's, including, I believe the London Philharmonic. I am bravely >> bootlegging it for the betterment of mankind and any record company who >> raises an eyebrow at my release will be going home in an ambulance! >> >> it's a tenner plus postage >> >> Judge Trev >> >> tel: 0044 (0)1273 387645 >> REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk >> Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, Video >> Downloads, >> News, Healers >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Owen O'Neill" >> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:36 AM >> To: >> Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation >> >> >> I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on >>> doremi.co.uk. >>> Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort >>> of >>> wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a >>> recording >>> like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different >>> "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. >>> (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the >>> craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been >>> studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be >>> constantly >>> puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it >>> seemed >>> to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly >>> prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded >>> into >>> a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >>> >>> > > > -- > .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 15:31:47 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:31:47 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: ----- Or did i hear you right? METAL SELLS! just ask Metallica. ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 7 August, 2008 9:26:36 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version On 07 Aug 2008, at 10:36 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > I think its bizarre how they went metal but it works. Did they sell > out, that is the question. What a wonderful world it would be if people could successfully sell out by going metal! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Aug 7 18:24:48 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:24:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <637728.88101.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 07 Aug 2008, at 14:31 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > METAL SELLS! just ask Metallica. Though when people have accused Metallica of selling out, it has not been because they went _more_ metal. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 8 04:40:29 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:40:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <200808042206.m74M6PNS031465@sputnik.bktv.se> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:05:36AM +0200, Johan Edlundh typed out: > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > --------------------------------------- > [...] > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! Trying to pull this together in my head. We're looking at stuff that was on Charisma that went to Virgin that went to EMI... and stuff that was on Bronze that went to Castle that would therefore now belong to Sanctuary? and stuff that was on RCA that went to EBS, and stuff that was on GWR that went to Castle etc., and then just stuff that was on EBS all along. So Doug Smith is involved... and I guess Sanctuary (if I'm right in remembering that they picked up Castle's Essential label) have had all the money they think is viable out of the RCA and GWR releases. And I suppose EMI would just rather have someone else do the reissue of this chunk of catalogue? Are they still printing the six they did remaster? All the same, it's an impressive amount of apparent cooperation, goodwill and effort, which leaves the question: why couldn't they manage to get Warrior? Why would EMI sit on that and not the Charisma/Virgin stuff? Oh well. I mean, I have my copy, you know. But it still seems odd. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 05:05:35 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 04:05:35 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/5/08, Stewartbas at aol.com wrote: > > Insect, Brucie, Skull and Trev ---all in one > night.............next........look to the heavens *Aha!! I told you guys I'd bring him in..........you see Bill, the more people laugh at my proclomation of only partial humanity and having a healthy dose of the "space gene" that was set to awaken, you have become another disbeliever who will only become further entagled and unable to break free of my revenge web* *you'll do much better with psychotropics now that you are in this catagory than the useless pursuit of skywatching.......* *we're not letting the inbound celestial whatnots destroy earth so you'll get real bored, unless they over-medicate you that is....then it could be interesting.......you'll learn that sanity is a sickness, it'll be OK, except you need more Hawkwind gear* From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 05:08:07 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:08:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <20080808084029.GT13335@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior (there was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) and that after that they were done on a licensing deal with the recordings remaining the property of Hawkwind or Doug. Steve On 8/8/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:05:36AM +0200, Johan Edlundh typed out: > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > > > --------------------------------------- > > [...] > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > > > Trying to pull this together in my head. We're looking at stuff > that was on Charisma that went to Virgin that went to EMI... and stuff > that was on Bronze that went to Castle that would therefore now belong > to Sanctuary? and stuff that was on RCA that went to EBS, and stuff that > was on GWR that went to Castle etc., and then just stuff that was on EBS > all along. So Doug Smith is involved... and I guess Sanctuary (if I'm > right in remembering that they picked up Castle's Essential label) have > had all the money they think is viable out of the RCA and GWR releases. > And I suppose EMI would just rather have someone else do the reissue of > this chunk of catalogue? Are they still printing the six they did > remaster? > > All the same, it's an impressive amount of apparent cooperation, > goodwill and effort, which leaves the question: why couldn't they manage > to get Warrior? Why would EMI sit on that and not the Charisma/Virgin > stuff? Oh well. I mean, I have my copy, you know. But it still seems > odd. Yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 05:14:26 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 04:14:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cutting room floor United Artists material, reels and reels of it...CD's to infinity, Hawkwind Brand Name Laser Tables, Vinyl minus barcodes (OK so anti-drug messages might need a place on the inner sleeves for the fiends) *CD SINGLES BOX.* On 8/8/08, Steve Freight wrote: > > I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior (there > was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) and that > after that they were done on a licensing deal with the recordings remaining > the property of Hawkwind or Doug. > > Steve > > > On 8/8/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:05:36AM +0200, Johan Edlundh typed out: > > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > [...] > > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > > > > > > > Trying to pull this together in my head. We're looking at stuff > > that was on Charisma that went to Virgin that went to EMI... and stuff > > that was on Bronze that went to Castle that would therefore now belong > > to Sanctuary? and stuff that was on RCA that went to EBS, and stuff that > > was on GWR that went to Castle etc., and then just stuff that was on EBS > > all along. So Doug Smith is involved... and I guess Sanctuary (if I'm > > right in remembering that they picked up Castle's Essential label) have > > had all the money they think is viable out of the RCA and GWR releases. > > And I suppose EMI would just rather have someone else do the reissue of > > this chunk of catalogue? Are they still printing the six they did > > remaster? > > > > All the same, it's an impressive amount of apparent cooperation, > > goodwill and effort, which leaves the question: why couldn't they manage > > to get Warrior? Why would EMI sit on that and not the Charisma/Virgin > > stuff? Oh well. I mean, I have my copy, you know. But it still seems > > odd. Yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 08:37:44 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:37:44 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:08 , Steve Freight wrote: > I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior > (there > was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) Yes, it's been my understanding, too, that EMI don't own the Warrior rights. I'm sure they would have given it the surprisingly lavish treatment their other albums got if they had owned it. I can't now remember the details surrounding the rights for it -- though obviously Griffen got ahold of them at some point! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 08:50:50 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:50:50 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <8D4B451E-BD6A-4523-81EF-91C30B8A7069@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 8/8/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:08 , Steve Freight wrote: > >> I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior (there >> was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) >> Yes, it's been my understanding, too, that EMI don't own the Warrior >> rights. I'm sure they would have given it the surprisingly lavish treatment >> their other albums got if they had owned it. I can't now remember the >> details surrounding the rights for it -- though obviously Griffen got ahold >> of them at some poi >> >> The Atco master tapes which somehow different than the supposedly missing >> original United Artisits tapes..... >> >> ah, they'll show up!!!! and if not I bet Dave can access the USA ones >> again if he were inclined, also if rights were involved, wonder who'd have >> them now? >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 09:29:32 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:29:32 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808080550s223d175egdb30703334f7fcb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Then again ... though I realize this is blasphemy, I actually like the Assault>Void on _Palace Springs_ much better than the Warrior version! Now an expanded _Palace Springs_ -- I'd be into that. Always liked that album, with the notable exception of "Acid Test", which is at best filler. Let's replace it with a nice version of "Out of the Shadows" and throw in some other "augmented 3-piece" live stuff. The slightly strange separation of "Treadmill" (clearly ending with the Time We Left riff) from "Time We Left > Heads" could also be remedied. Ah, I bet we could make a lovely semi-live/semi-studio HW album (in the vein of the Dead's "touched up" _Europe '72_) spanning 1989-1993 with _Palace Springs_ as its core and pulling stuff in from _California Brainstorm_ and whatever Dave has lying about. Some creative editing and remixing (though _not_ overseen by the band, or it will take 10 years and end up sounding like Yet Another Track from TMTYL! ;) and voila .... Sometimes I think it's not so much a remastering of the HW back catalog that's needed as a re-editing! ;) It's a shame that HW were never organized enough to spawn the massive industry around them that the Dead have for cleaning up the archives with ridiculous quantities of technology and audio engineering skill. Oh well! Idle daydreams! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 09:37:24 2008 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:37:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808080550s223d175egdb30703334f7fcb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Atco don't have the album version of Kings of Speed and have a slightly longer intro to Magnu which makes the UK and US CD's the same length! Motorhead tapes have (or had) disappeared (in smoke?) hence mastering of the UK CD from vinyl and Motorhead on both UK and US CD's from the single. Must check Anthology version of Motorhead to see if the scratch that is evident on the Warrior has totally disappeared - not thought to check before. If so then tapes have been found. Steve On 8/8/08, mike coleman wrote: > > On 8/8/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > > On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:08 , Steve Freight wrote: > > > >> I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior > (there > >> was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) > >> Yes, it's been my understanding, too, that EMI don't own the Warrior > >> rights. I'm sure they would have given it the surprisingly lavish > treatment > >> their other albums got if they had owned it. I can't now remember the > >> details surrounding the rights for it -- though obviously Griffen got > ahold > >> of them at some poi > >> > >> The Atco master tapes which somehow different than the supposedly > missing > >> original United Artisits tapes..... > >> > >> ah, they'll show up!!!! and if not I bet Dave can access the USA ones > >> again if he were inclined, also if rights were involved, wonder who'd > have > >> them now? > >> > > > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 10:20:08 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:20:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 08:37 , Steve Freight wrote: > Must check Anthology version of Motorhead to see if the scratch > that is > evident on the Warrior has totally disappeared - not thought to check > before. If so then tapes have been found. Or, possibly, very cunning digital editing of the needledrop rip? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 8 10:29:01 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:29:01 +0100 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: Scott Heller's message of Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:12:21 +0200 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 8 10:47:29 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:47:29 +0100 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:50:22PM -0400, StevePXR5 at AOL.COM typed out: > It concerns me what you say about the sound. During the Question Time at > Hawkfest, remastering was mentioned for the albums soon to be re-issued on > Cheery Red. Dave said the band aren't doing it, someone else is. I think that's encouraging, actually. If the band was doing it it would end up getting done at Barkalot Farm and sounding that same flavour of "I HAVE A COMPUTER IN MY BEDROOM!" as TMYTL does, which would be a shame for things as sharp-sounding as the Charisma material ought to be, and even more so for _Levitation_ (which hardly *needs* remastering). And if, as someone else said, it's the same team as did the Deep Purple remasters, then that's good enough for me (though Dale Churchett would be better, wherever he went...) Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 18:34:07 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:34:07 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: okay then, but Metal sells alot more than underground Delerium label psyche/space rock. Metal fills stadiums, so i call that selling out. Billboard and European charts and in stores they are selling in the Metal section with Burzum and Cradle Of Filth. Those guys sell alot of Metal, or the Black/Death version of it which has become so popular......... ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, 8 August, 2008 12:24:48 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version On 07 Aug 2008, at 14:31 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > METAL SELLS! just ask Metallica. Though when people have accused Metallica of selling out, it has not been because they went _more_ metal. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 19:04:17 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:04:17 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: ----- Original Message ---- au contraire mon frere, as they say. ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, 8 August, 2008 12:24:48 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version On 07 Aug 2008, at 14:31 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > METAL SELLS! just ask Metallica. Though when people have accused Metallica of selling out, it has not been because they went _more_ metal. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 19:18:40 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:18:40 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: ----- Original Message -- did i hear 80s Alice Cooper........... ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 7 August, 2008 9:26:36 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version On 07 Aug 2008, at 10:36 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > I think its bizarre how they went metal but it works. Did they sell > out, that is the question. What a wonderful world it would be if people could successfully sell out by going metal! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 19:26:39 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:26:39 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: Porcupine Tree - O here's what my PT collection is. Modest so far. Porcupine Tree - On The Sunday Of Life... (Snapper digipak CD remaster) Porcupine Tree - Up The Down Stair (CS, from original Delerium CD) Porcupine Tree - The Sky Moves Sideways (CS, from original Delerium CD) Porcupine Tree - Voyage 34 (Snapper digipak CD remaster with bonus remixes) Porcupine Tree - Spiral Circus (live London, High Wycombe, BBC,1993, bootleg) (CDR) Porcupien Tree - Transmission IV (CDR) [unedited 40 min. improv of "Moonloop", on Delerium] Porcupine Tree - The BBC Sessions [1993, '95 & '96 radio spots/recordings] (bootleg) (CDR) Porcupine Tree - Metanoia (Snapper remaster CD w/extra tracks, studio jams 95-96) Porcupine Tree - Signify (CS, from original Delerium CD) Porcupien Tree - Coma Divine: Live In Rome, March 1997 (2CD w/bonus disc) (CDR) Porcupine Tree - Stars Die: The Delerium Years 1991-1997 (2CD on Snapper, remastered digipak) Porcupine Tree - Insignificance (CDR) (1997) [w/cover of NEU!'s "Hallogallo"] Porcupine Tree - Stupid Dream (remaster w/5.1 DVDA surround mix disc) Porcupine Tree - Phantasmagoria (live Wheaton, USA 26/05/99) (bootleg) (CDR) Porcupine Tree - Lightbulb Sun (remaster w/5.1 DVDA surround mix disc) Porcupine Tree - In Absentia Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere (live 2002) (2CDR ripped from DVD) Porcupine Tree - XM (2003) (CDR) Porcupine Tree - Futile EP (CDR) Porcupine Tree - Warszawa 2004 (live) (CDR) Porcupine Tree - XM II (2005, CDR) (live) Porcupine Tree - Deadwing (2005, CDR) Porcupine Tree - Lazarus (3 track CD single) (CDR) Porcupine Tree - Fear Of A Blank Planet (2007, CDR) Porcupine Tree - Nil Recurring __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 8 03:38:15 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:38:15 +0000 Subject: trade? is that spam too? Message-ID: here are some discs i need to trade off. give me a list - used CDs or CDRs of live shows or whatever goes. I dont have Paypal access so i can't sell them. what to do? FIND TRADERS ON BOC-L! Church of Hed - s/t (Quarkspace spinoff) (sealed new CD) Hawkwind - Live From The Darkside (Yuri Gagarin show in digipak CD) (slight water damage on digi) Hawkwind - Assassins Of Silence/Hundred Watt Violence (sealed new Hawkwind tribute CD) Motorpsycho - It's A Love Cult (CD) (new unused, 2002) Quarkspace - Spacefolds 5 CD (just the CDs which are w/out any cover art) Quarkspace - Spacefolds 7 CD (sealed new) Quarkspace & Matt Howarth - Node In Peril (CD and Comic book in sealed new digipak) The Sweet - Blockbuster! (as new, compilation) Nik Turner - The Prophets of Time (Cleopatra CD) (small deletion hole on bar code) __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 8 05:23:28 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:23:28 +0000 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: i wish i still had my dojo warrior.!!!!!!! RFM versions suck (no not Trev & his bootleg CDR boutiqe but the Germans at RIDGETOP) ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Freight To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, 8 August, 2008 11:08:07 AM Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior (there was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) and that after that they were done on a licensing deal with the recordings remaining the property of Hawkwind or Doug. Steve On 8/8/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:05:36AM +0200, Johan Edlundh typed out: > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > > > --------------------------------------- > > [...] > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > > > Trying to pull this together in my head. We're looking at stuff > that was on Charisma that went to Virgin that went to EMI... and stuff > that was on Bronze that went to Castle that would therefore now belong > to Sanctuary? and stuff that was on RCA that went to EBS, and stuff that > was on GWR that went to Castle etc., and then just stuff that was on EBS > all along. So Doug Smith is involved... and I guess Sanctuary (if I'm > right in remembering that they picked up Castle's Essential label) have > had all the money they think is viable out of the RCA and GWR releases. > And I suppose EMI would just rather have someone else do the reissue of > this chunk of catalogue? Are they still printing the six they did > remaster? > > All the same, it's an impressive amount of apparent cooperation, > goodwill and effort, which leaves the question: why couldn't they manage > to get Warrior? Why would EMI sit on that and not the Charisma/Virgin > stuff? Oh well. I mean, I have my copy, you know. But it still seems > odd. Yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -- View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 11:50:37 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:50:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <212801.6528.qm@web23007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 07 Aug 2008, at 17:34 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > okay then, but Metal sells alot more than underground Delerium > label psyche/space rock. Metal fills stadiums, so i call that > selling out. Billboard and European charts and in stores they are > selling in the Metal section with Burzum and Cradle Of Filth. Those > guys sell alot of Metal, or the Black/Death version of it which has > become so popular......... Well, it is true that bands like Nightwish score significant chart success in Europe. Nevertheless, if metal bands are filling stadiums, I don't think I can be too upset with the trend -- whether or not it's selling out! :) Have Opeth become more like PT, or PT more like Opeth? :) Hmm, now do Hawkwind and BOC fill stadiums by becoming more metal, less metal, or simply releasing more coherent records? Well, I'd say the the third of those would be a good start. :) Number one might not hurt, but it can't help without option three! :) It's true that "classic metal" seems relatively popular these days ... maybe HW can dust off the Live Chronicle set list and get a dude in with a white wig and big sword. :) And BOC could stop being happy to be a county fair oldies act and act like that had something to say (preferably something sinister, if they can manage it). Difficult for them when so many of the players are basically guns for hire, though .... There HW has the advantage: there've been so many darned people passing through the band that they can have just about anyone in there as long as they get the vibe right (though getting the vibe right seems to be one of their major difficulties! ;)) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 11:54:35 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:54:35 -0700 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: I don't know if anyone considers this blasphemy, but I recently re-listened to the old One Way and EMI discs and (admittedly without attempting any sort of double blind scientific comparison) I once again acme away with a very strong impression of liking the One Way releases better.... I think it might be that the sound of the OW releases is softer - the EMI discs have a harsher, more brittle tone that sets my teeth on edge. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 8:41 am Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:08 , Steve Freight wrote: I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior (there was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) Yes, it's been my understanding, too, that EMI don't own the Warrior rights. I'm sure they would have given it the surprisingly lavish treatment their other albums got if they had owned it. I can't now remember the details surrounding the rights for it -- though obviously Griffen got ahold of them at some point! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 11:55:02 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:55:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <220533.27806.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:23 , Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > i wish i still had my dojo warrior.!!!!!!! I'm kind of surprised there aren't torrents of the Dojo or Griffin Warriors floating around. Hawkwind fans must have higher morals than I would have suspected. ;) Not that I would stoop to downloading such things if they were available, of course .... if perhaps only because I _have_ both CDs. :) Though at least freebie versions would knock the eBay pirate sellers back a few steps. If I were Dave, I'd seed it myself just out of irritation with the fact that no one can buy my record legitimately (though perhaps he holds out some hope of actually getting paid through another legit release, which is fair enough!). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 11:57:36 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:57:36 -0700 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: I agree that the sound on those is fantastic, what I would like is a remastering of the album so that the songs flow more naturally from one to the next, like they did in the concerts, rather than the separated, disjointed presentation they currently have... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 9:33 am Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Then again ... though I realize this is blasphemy, I actually like the Assault>Void on _Palace Springs_ much better than the Warrior version! Now an expanded _Palace Springs_ -- I'd be into that. Always liked that album, with the notable exception of "Acid Test", which is at best filler. Let's replace it with a nice version of "Out of the Shadows" and throw in some other "augmented 3-piece" live stuff. The slightly strange separation of "Treadmill" (clearly ending with the Time We Left riff) from "Time We Left > Heads" could also be remedied. Ah, I bet we could make a lovely semi-live/semi-studio HW album (in the vein of the Dead's "touched up" _Europe '72_) spanning 1989-1993 with _Palace Springs_ as its core and pulling stuff in from _California Brainstorm_ and whatever Dave has lying about. Some creative editing and remixing (though _not_ overseen by the band, or it will take 10 years and end up sounding like Yet Another Track from TMTYL! ;) and voila .... Sometimes I think it's not so much a remastering of the HW back catalog that's needed as a re-editing! ;) It's a shame that HW were never organized enough to spawn the massive industry around them that the Dead have for cleaning up the archives with ridiculous quantities of technology and audio engineering skill. Oh well! Idle daydreams! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 12:06:12 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:06:12 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <3301041274.22060716@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 10:54 , Steve Swann wrote: > I don't know if anyone considers this blasphemy, but I recently re- > listened to the old One Way and EMI discs and (admittedly without > attempting any sort of double blind scientific comparison) I once > again acme away with a very strong impression of liking the One Way > releases better.... Aren't you on record as raving about the EMI Doremi re-master when it came out? :) Or have I misremembered that ....? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 12:08:22 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:08:22 -0700 Subject: HW Knights of Space Message-ID: Whatever people might think of the content (and I realize not everyone is as big a fan of the album as I am) I think it would be crazy for anyone to deny that Levitation is one of the one of the most crisp and clean sounding albums ever. It was digital recording done right, and I think that remastering could only detract from what's now about as close to a perfect mastering job as I've ever heard. Especially given modern studio standard practice: (1) compress the shit out of it (2) increase volume past clipping levels (3) repeat until totally ruined Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jarrett Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 10:50 am Subject: Re: HW Knights of Space To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:50:22PM -0400, StevePXR5 at AOL.COM typed out: It concerns me what you say about the sound. During the Question Time at Hawkfest, remastering was mentioned for the albums soon to be re-issued on Cheery Red. Dave said the band aren't doing it, someone else is. I think that's encouraging, actually. If the band was doing it it would end up getting done at Barkalot Farm and sounding that same flavour of "I HAVE A COMPUTER IN MY BEDROOM!" as TMYTL does, which would be a shame for things as sharp-sounding as the Charisma material ought to be, and even more so for _Levitation_ (which hardly *needs* remastering). And if, as someone else said, it's the same team as did the Deep Purple remasters, then that's good enough for me (though Dale Churchett would be better, wherever he went...) Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 12:08:36 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:08:36 -0700 Subject: HW Knights of Space Message-ID: Whatever people might think of the content (and I realize not everyone is as big a fan of the album as I am) I think it would be crazy for anyone to deny that Levitation is one of the one of the most crisp and clean sounding albums ever. It was digital recording done right, and I think that remastering could only detract from what's now about as close to a perfect mastering job as I've ever heard. Especially given modern studio standard practice: (1) compress the shit out of it (2) increase volume past clipping level (3) repeat until totally ruined Steve -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jarrett Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 10:50 am Subject: Re: HW Knights of Space To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:50:22PM -0400, StevePXR5 at AOL.COM typed out: It concerns me what you say about the sound. During the Question Time at Hawkfest, remastering was mentioned for the albums soon to be re-issued on Cheery Red. Dave said the band aren't doing it, someone else is. I think that's encouraging, actually. If the band was doing it it would end up getting done at Barkalot Farm and sounding that same flavour of "I HAVE A COMPUTER IN MY BEDROOM!" as TMYTL does, which would be a shame for things as sharp-sounding as the Charisma material ought to be, and even more so for _Levitation_ (which hardly *needs* remastering). And if, as someone else said, it's the same team as did the Deep Purple remasters, then that's good enough for me (though Dale Churchett would be better, wherever he went...) Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 12:08:56 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:08:56 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <3301041455.22078861@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 10:57 , Steve Swann wrote: > what I would like is a remastering of the album so that the songs > flow more naturally from one to the next, like they did in the > concerts, rather than the separated, disjointed presentation they > currently have... Yes, exactly. I mean, even if the recordings actually came from different concerts, I shouldn't think it would be impossible to mix things together to create a more realistic sounding "idealized" concert. OK, when we're thinking like purists, we can be horrified that the sanctity of the original warts'n'all recordings should be violated in this way :) but on the other hand we know we could make a better sounding record like that. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 12:40:49 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:40:49 -0500 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: <3301042114.22144792@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 11:08 , Steve Swann wrote: > I think it would be crazy for anyone to deny that Levitation is one > of the one of the most crisp and clean sounding albums ever. It > was digital recording done right, and I think that remastering > could only detract from what's now about as close to a perfect > mastering job as I've ever heard. Levitation does sound pretty good. Honestly, I've seldom heard re- mastering do much for many "'80s and after releases" unless the original mastering for CD was just stupidly messed up. Like, the 2006 re-release of _Spine of God_ is rather more compressed than the original CD release, but the original CD mastering was also not very good. So, I like the 2006 version rather better. > Especially given modern studio standard practice: > (1) compress the shit out of it > (2) increase volume past clipping level > (3) repeat until totally ruined This trend really is reaching ridiculous levels. I've got some recent CDs where there will be this delicate little keyboard or acoustic intro to a song, and then the band comes in with a "whommmmm" power chord, except that the levels are so insanely redlined that it sounds like someone farting through a bad phone line rather than a massive explosion of gloriously amplified awesomeness. Fizzes like a bottle of Coke dropped from orbit! Kinda of takes away from the intended effect, I think .... Someone needs to step in and put the brakes on this. You want to stupidly compress the single going out to radios and as a videos or whatever: OK, what the heck. No one buys singles any more anyway. :) Burn the competition's ears out! But on a whole CD? These insanely over-compressed to superloudness CDs start to get a bit wearing after a few tracks (even if they don't fuzz out at points) and who wants to listen to that? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 12:50:58 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:50:58 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <220533.27806.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: why??? godwin's copy of motorhead was cleaner!! pretty sure! and dunno bout you but I'll take the longer Magnu intro myself!! and then what about that carefully restored artwork?? nice shade of pink on the Dojo or what??? you're wearing crocs now I can tell, probably just like sam's On 8/8/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > i wish i still had my dojo warrior.!!!!!!! RFM versions suck (no not Trev & > his bootleg CDR boutiqe but the Germans at RIDGETOP) > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Steve Freight > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Friday, 8 August, 2008 11:08:07 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior (there > was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) and that > after that they were done on a licensing deal with the recordings remaining > the property of Hawkwind or Doug. > > Steve > > > On 8/8/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:05:36AM +0200, Johan Edlundh typed out: > > > Got a mail from CD Services today; > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > [...] > > > We are extremely pleased to announce to you that the entire HAWKWIND > > > catalogue released between 1976 and 1997 is soon to be Remastered and > > > Re-Issued on the new Atomhenge Label... and with Bonus Tracks!!! > > > > > > > > Trying to pull this together in my head. We're looking at stuff > > that was on Charisma that went to Virgin that went to EMI... and stuff > > that was on Bronze that went to Castle that would therefore now belong > > to Sanctuary? and stuff that was on RCA that went to EBS, and stuff that > > was on GWR that went to Castle etc., and then just stuff that was on EBS > > all along. So Doug Smith is involved... and I guess Sanctuary (if I'm > > right in remembering that they picked up Castle's Essential label) have > > had all the money they think is viable out of the RCA and GWR releases. > > And I suppose EMI would just rather have someone else do the reissue of > > this chunk of catalogue? Are they still printing the six they did > > remaster? > > > > All the same, it's an impressive amount of apparent cooperation, > > goodwill and effort, which leaves the question: why couldn't they manage > > to get Warrior? Why would EMI sit on that and not the Charisma/Virgin > > stuff? Oh well. I mean, I have my copy, you know. But it still seems > > odd. Yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > > > > > -- > View Steve's Photos of Hawkwind Porcupine Tree and Isle of Wight > http://www.flickr.com/photos/venthawktree > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Aug 8 12:52:59 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:52:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <9C5F891C-2A80-4926-A74C-3BB88A7770C7@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 8 Aug 2008, at 12:08 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Yes, exactly. I mean, even if the recordings actually came from > different concerts, I shouldn't think it would be impossible to mix > things together to create a more realistic sounding "idealized" > concert. See Frank Zappa's "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore" series of releases for details. Some of the editing and flow on that is amazing! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Fri Aug 8 13:14:45 2008 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:14:45 -0400 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: Hmmm quite an odd minority opinion about the One Way issues of the early albums, I'd say. They were all mastered from vinyl, complete with pops and cracks. My opinion is probably the same as that of most people, which is that they sounded terrible. The Repertoire editions sounded somewhat better, but then I think that the EMI remasters were a revelation. They sound as if ten layers of mud were removed from the master tapes, revealing the music in all its glory. John Majka >I don't know if anyone considers this blasphemy, but I recently re-listened >to the old One Way and EMI discs and (admittedly without attempting any >sort of double blind scientific comparison) I once again acme away with a >very strong impression of liking the One Way releases better.... > > I think it might be that the sound of the OW releases is softer - the EMI > discs have a harsher, more brittle tone that sets my teeth on edge. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 8:41 am > Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:08 , Steve Freight wrote: > I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior > (there > was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) > > > Yes, it's been my understanding, too, that EMI don't own the Warrior > rights. I'm sure they would have given it the surprisingly lavish > treatment their other albums got if they had owned it. I can't now > remember the details surrounding the rights for it -- though > obviously Griffen got ahold of them at some point! > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 13:32:49 2008 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:32:49 -0400 Subject: trade? is that ____ too? In-Reply-To: <663187.77822.qm@web23005.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Using that *word* (again as a reminder) will cause an email like this to be filtered by many of the *that word* filters people use now a days. Im sure a real mod will correct me but no I don't think this is disallowed either. Keeping the music in the family is what its all about no? Best to all Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the pics http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort the myspace http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ the photobucket http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ the flickr site Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > here are some discs i need to trade off. give me a list - used CDs or CDRs of live shows or whatever goes. I dont have Paypal access so i can't sell them. what to do? FIND TRADERS ON BOC-L! > > > Church of Hed - s/t (Quarkspace spinoff) (sealed new CD) > Hawkwind - Live From The Darkside (Yuri Gagarin show in digipak CD) (slight water damage on digi) > Hawkwind - Assassins Of Silence/Hundred Watt Violence (sealed new Hawkwind tribute CD) > Motorpsycho - It's A Love Cult (CD) (new unused, 2002) > Quarkspace - Spacefolds 5 CD (just the CDs which are w/out any cover art) > Quarkspace - Spacefolds 7 CD (sealed new) > Quarkspace & Matt Howarth - Node In Peril (CD and Comic book in sealed new digipak) > The Sweet - Blockbuster! (as new, compilation) > Nik Turner - The Prophets of Time (Cleopatra CD) (small deletion hole on bar code) > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 13:33:00 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (The Bishop Of Battle) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:33:00 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <003b01c8f97a$4189b7d0$6501a8c0@MAJKA> Message-ID: wonder if steve was comparing doremi's?? I like Simon King's version of it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doremi_Fasol_Latido glad I got the German 1st UK press now, you can make war with that LP you know..... On 8/8/08, John Majka wrote: > > Hmmm quite an odd minority opinion about the One Way issues of the early > albums, I'd say. They were all mastered from vinyl, complete with pops and > cracks. My opinion is probably the same as that of most people, which is > that they sounded terrible. The Repertoire editions sounded somewhat > better, but then I think that the EMI remasters were a revelation. They > sound as if ten layers of mud were removed from the master tapes, revealing > the music in all its glory. > John Majka > > > I don't know if anyone considers this blasphemy, but I recently re-listened >> to the old One Way and EMI discs and (admittedly without attempting any sort >> of double blind scientific comparison) I once again acme away with a very >> strong impression of liking the One Way releases better.... >> >> I think it might be that the sound of the OW releases is softer - the EMI >> discs have a harsher, more brittle tone that sets my teeth on edge. >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson >> Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 8:41 am >> Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label >> To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: >> BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> >> On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:08 , Steve Freight wrote: >> I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior >> (there >> was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) >> >> >> Yes, it's been my understanding, too, that EMI don't own the Warrior >> rights. I'm sure they would have given it the surprisingly lavish >> treatment their other albums got if they had owned it. I can't now >> remember the details surrounding the rights for it -- though >> obviously Griffen got ahold of them at some point! >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 14:22:30 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:22:30 -0700 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: I reserve the right to be inconsistent. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 12:09 pm Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 08 Aug 2008, at 10:54 , Steve Swann wrote: I don't know if anyone considers this blasphemy, but I recently re- listened to the old One Way and EMI discs and (admittedly without attempting any sort of double blind scientific comparison) I once again acme away with a very strong impression of liking the One Way releases better.... Aren't you on record as raving about the EMI Doremi re-master when it came out? :) Or have I misremembered that ....? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 15:09:31 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:09:31 -0700 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: Actually the specific album I was referencing was Space Ritual, so its possible my comment may not apply to the others. I mean, I would expect it to, but I didn't really compare. If the One Way albums were mastered from vinyl, this may be yet another case of some things just sounded better on vinyl (Thick As A Brick being my canonical example of that). If that makes me a goddam loony then so be it. :) And it definitely doesn't apply to everything - you just saw me wax rhapsodic about great the cd of Levitation sounds... Steve -----Original Message----- From: The Bishop Of Battle Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 1:36 pm Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET wonder if steve was comparing doremi's?? I like Simon King's version of it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doremi_Fasol_Latido glad I got the German 1st UK press now, you can make war with that LP you know..... On 8/8/08, John Majka wrote: > Hmmm quite an odd minority opinion about the One Way issues of the early albums, I'd say. They were all mastered from vinyl, complete with pops and cracks. My opinion is probably the same as that of most people, which is that they sounded terrible. The Repertoire editions sounded somewhat better, but then I think that the EMI remasters were a revelation. They sound as if ten layers of mud were removed from the master tapes, revealing the music in all its glory. John Majka > I don't know if anyone considers this blasphemy, but I recently re-listened > to the old One Way and EMI discs and (admittedly without attempting any sort > of double blind scientific comparison) I once again acme away with a very > strong impression of liking the One Way releases better.... > > I think it might be that the sound of the OW releases is softer - the EMI > discs have a harsher, more brittle tone that sets my teeth on edge. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 8:41 am > Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:08 , Steve Freight wrote: > I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior > (there > was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) > > > Yes, it's been my understanding, too, that EMI don't own the Warrior > rights. I'm sure they would have given it the surprisingly lavish > treatment their other albums got if they had owned it. I can't now > remember the details surrounding the rights for it -- though > obviously Griffen got ahold of them at some point! > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 15:11:22 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:11:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <3301050149.22513414@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 13:22 , Steve Swann wrote: > I reserve the right to be inconsistent. :) Perhaps we could take the EMI and One Way versions and blend them .... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 15:16:26 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:16:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <3301052969.22670602@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: * I sounded off myself about the One Way Dormei (months ago) and maybe I'll try the space ritual* *I didn't dispute this, I never had much problem with vinyl noise on those, and at the time of issue it was quite a thing* On 8/8/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > Actually the specific album I was referencing was Space Ritual, so its > possible my comment may not apply to the others. I mean, I would expect it > to, but I didn't really compare. > > If the One Way albums were mastered from vinyl, this may be yet another > case of some things just sounded better on vinyl (Thick As A Brick being my > canonical example of that). If that makes me a goddam loony then so be > it. :) > > And it definitely doesn't apply to everything - you just saw me wax > rhapsodic about great the cd of Levitation sounds... > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Bishop Of Battle > Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 1:36 pm > Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > wonder if steve was comparing doremi's?? I like Simon King's version of it > here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doremi_Fasol_Latido > glad I got the German 1st UK press now, you can make war with that LP you > know..... > On 8/8/08, John Majka wrote: > > > Hmmm quite an odd minority opinion about the One Way issues of the early > albums, I'd say. They were all mastered from vinyl, complete with pops and > cracks. My opinion is probably the same as that of most people, which is > that they sounded terrible. The Repertoire editions sounded somewhat > better, but then I think that the EMI remasters were a revelation. They > sound as if ten layers of mud were removed from the master tapes, revealing > the music in all its glory. > John Majka > > > > I don't know if anyone considers this blasphemy, but I recently re-listened > > to the old One Way and EMI discs and (admittedly without attempting any > sort > > of double blind scientific comparison) I once again acme away with a very > > strong impression of liking the One Way releases better.... > > > > I think it might be that the sound of the OW releases is softer - the EMI > > discs have a harsher, more brittle tone that sets my teeth on edge. > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > > Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 8:41 am > > Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label > > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > > On 08 Aug 2008, at 04:08 , Steve Freight wrote: > > I think I read somewhere that EMI own the recordings up to Warrior > > (there > > was some dispute when this was released outside of the EMI stable) > > > > > > Yes, it's been my understanding, too, that EMI don't own the Warrior > > rights. I'm sure they would have given it the surprisingly lavish > > treatment their other albums got if they had owned it. I can't now > > remember the details surrounding the rights for it -- though > > obviously Griffen got ahold of them at some point! > > > > Cheers, > > Carl > > > > -- > > Carl Edlund Anderson > > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 8 15:22:41 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:22:41 EDT Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: Catching up on emails here and deleting a few with subject lines that do not hold much interest, which is the way it should be. I read earlier that Levitation is perfect as it is. I couldn't help but agree as I whacked it on at a good volume. Then I thought about the Genesis albums that came out recently. Each had the original recording plus a DVD audio full 5.1 surroung disc. These sound superb. So Levitation CAN be improved upon. A 5.1 audio mix of this would levitate me. How about doing this with all of them? Hey... if it's good enough for Genesis... Steve. In a message dated 08/08/2008 20:10:38 GMT Standard Time, swann1066 at GMAIL.COM writes: And it definitely doesn't apply to everything - you just saw me wax rhapsodic about great the cd of Levitation sounds... From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 15:41:31 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:41:31 -0700 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: So if I raved about the EMI remasters it was probably because they have a fuller, cleaner sound, which ostensiblywould be better. But when I turn the lights down and the stereo up with intention of just sinking into the total sonic experience that is Space Ritual, I found that the EMI discs just had a sharp, slightly cutting treble quality that constantly nagged at my ear and made feel distracted and on edge. I swapped back the One Way disc and immediately it had that warm, mellow-but-crushing sound that to me is SR... :) And I suspect that probably was the vinyl influence. Maybe I should buy one of those stupid inline tube amps that adds higher order harmonics and smooths off the treble end of the amplification curve. I'd probably love that shit.... Steve once again on behalf of the minoity opinion :) -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 3:13 pm Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 08 Aug 2008, at 13:22 , Steve Swann wrote: I reserve the right to be inconsistent. :) Perhaps we could take the EMI and One Way versions and blend them .... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 15:55:28 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:55:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <3301052969.22670602@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 14:09 , Steve Swann wrote: > some things just sounded better on vinyl (Thick As A Brick being my > canonical example of that). Though the MFSL CD version of TAAB ain't bad. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 8 15:57:19 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:57:19 -0500 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label In-Reply-To: <3301054890.22813040@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 08 Aug 2008, at 14:41 , Steve Swann wrote: > Maybe I should buy one of those stupid inline tube amps that adds > higher order harmonics and smooths off the treble end of the > amplification curve. I'd probably love that shit.... Maybe just some EQ tweaking? That might be cheaper, at least :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 8 13:55:15 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:55:15 +0000 Subject: trade? is that ____ too? Message-ID: ok.Thanks. I am not spam,. i feel better. SO I ordered extra copies of BY MISTAKE : Amon D??l UK - Meetings With Menmachines (sealed new) Amon D??l UK - Fool Moon (sealed new) : so I have to send them to Mike Coleman for a DOJO Warrior (I hope he got his 60 dollars i sent as cash) OR TRADE THEM WITH SOMEONE ELSE IN THE BOC-L FAMILY! C. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike Montfort To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Friday, 8 August, 2008 7:32:49 PM Subject: Re: trade? is that ____ too? Using that *word* (again as a reminder) will cause an email like this to be filtered by many of the *that word* filters people use now a days. Im sure a real mod will correct me but no I don't think this is disallowed either. Keeping the music in the family is what its all about no? Best to all Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the pics http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort the myspace http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ the photobucket http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ the flickr site Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > here are some discs i need to trade off. give me a list - used CDs or CDRs of live shows or whatever goes. I dont have Paypal access so i can't sell them. what to do? FIND TRADERS ON BOC-L! > > > Church of Hed - s/t (Quarkspace spinoff) (sealed new CD) > Hawkwind - Live From The Darkside (Yuri Gagarin show in digipak CD) (slight water damage on digi) > Hawkwind - Assassins Of Silence/Hundred Watt Violence (sealed new Hawkwind tribute CD) > Motorpsycho - It's A Love Cult (CD) (new unused, 2002) > Quarkspace - Spacefolds 5 CD (just the CDs which are w/out any cover art) > Quarkspace - Spacefolds 7 CD (sealed new) > Quarkspace & Matt Howarth - Node In Peril (CD and Comic book in sealed new digipak) > The Sweet - Blockbuster! (as new, compilation) > Nik Turner - The Prophets of Time (Cleopatra CD) (small deletion hole on bar code) > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > > __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 17:35:34 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:35:34 -0700 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: I have the MFSL cd, and loony that I am, I still like the vinyl better. :) At least MFSL never did that compress/oversaturate bullshit... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 3:59 pm Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 08 Aug 2008, at 14:09 , Steve Swann wrote: some things just sounded better on vinyl (Thick As A Brick being my canonical example of that). Though the MFSL CD version of TAAB ain't bad. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 17:50:09 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:50:09 -0700 Subject: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label Message-ID: I've done EQ tweaking which can do the high end rolloff, but will still never add back those warm high order harmonics. And before Dr Mather points out that adding high order harmonics is actually a form of sonic distortion, just let me say that I am cognizant of that and I don't much care... I'm by no means a musical purist and I just think it sounds better. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 4:00 pm Subject: Re: HW: Remaster everything on the Atomhenge Label To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 08 Aug 2008, at 14:41 , Steve Swann wrote: Maybe I should buy one of those stupid inline tube amps that adds higher order harmonics and smooths off the treble end of the amplification curve. I'd probably love that shit.... Maybe just some EQ tweaking? That might be cheaper, at least :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 8 18:32:53 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:32:53 -0500 Subject: trade? is that ____ too? In-Reply-To: <238028.89705.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: well, my fool moon does list 8 tracks but calls up only 5.....I think there is a couple missing........ send more money with it, I'm tying to keep up with the jones's On 8/8/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > ok.Thanks. I am not spam,. i feel better. SO I ordered extra copies of BY > MISTAKE : > > Amon D??l UK - Meetings With Menmachines (sealed new) > Amon D??l UK - Fool Moon (sealed new) > : > so I have to send them to Mike Coleman for a DOJO Warrior (I hope he got > his 60 dollars i sent as cash) > OR TRADE THEM WITH SOMEONE ELSE IN THE BOC-L FAMILY! > C. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mike Montfort > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Friday, 8 August, 2008 7:32:49 PM > Subject: Re: trade? is that ____ too? > > Using that *word* (again as a reminder) will cause an email like this to > be filtered by many of the *that word* filters people use now a days. > > Im sure a real mod will correct me but no I don't think this is > disallowed either. Keeping the music in the family is what its all about > no? > > Best to all > > Mike > http://corwyn.blogspot.com > the blog > http://www.mikemontfort.com > the pics > http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort > the myspace > http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ > the photobucket > http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ > the flickr site > > > > Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > here are some discs i need to trade off. give me a list - used CDs or > CDRs of live shows or whatever goes. I dont have Paypal access so i can't > sell them. what to do? FIND TRADERS ON BOC-L! > > > > > > Church of Hed - s/t (Quarkspace spinoff) (sealed new CD) > > Hawkwind - Live From The Darkside (Yuri Gagarin show in digipak CD) > (slight water damage on digi) > > Hawkwind - Assassins Of Silence/Hundred Watt Violence (sealed new > Hawkwind tribute CD) > > Motorpsycho - It's A Love Cult (CD) (new unused, 2002) > > Quarkspace - Spacefolds 5 CD (just the CDs which are w/out any cover art) > > Quarkspace - Spacefolds 7 CD (sealed new) > > Quarkspace & Matt Howarth - Node In Peril (CD and Comic book in sealed > new digipak) > > The Sweet - Blockbuster! (as new, compilation) > > Nik Turner - The Prophets of Time (Cleopatra CD) (small deletion hole on > bar code) > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Not happy with your email address?. > > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available > now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now > at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Aug 9 14:45:03 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:45:03 +0100 Subject: Inner City Unit gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It is now confirmed that Gregg Mackella's Paradise 9 will be supporting ICU at the Inn on the Green gig. This band is a little-known Psychedelic Punk band but one who's musical prowess must be heard. Greg himself, in his younger years was a pro busker who blasted commuters with Space Music on the London Underground...face-to-face in the tube carriages, not on the platform. He still has the summonses to prove it! It's time that their hour came. They are a very very good band indeed both in playing standard and material. -------------------------------------------------- From: "trev" Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:15 PM To: Subject: Inner City Unit gigs > It is now confirmed that Dino Ferari, ICU's original drummer, will be > flying over from Rome to play at these gigs and will be playing > alongside Myreg. yes a double-kit line up! Woooooo > >> >> > Inner City Unit are young and good-looking...cough! >> >> Featuring: Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Dino Ferari, Commander Jim Hawkman, >> Nazer Ali >> Khan, Myreg Griffiths, Mekon >> >> >> >> Thursday 28th August - Real Music Club, The Greenhouse Effect, 63 > Church >> Road, Hove, Brighton, Sussex >> >> www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/realmusicclub1.html >> >> >> >> >> Friday 29th August - Glastonbury Assembly Rooms, High Street, >> Glastonbury, Somerset >> >> http://www.assemblyrooms.org.uk/ >> >> >> >> Saturday 30th August - Inn on the Green, 3 - 5 Thorpe Close, Ladbroke >> Grove, London W10 5XL >> >> http://www.iotg.co.uk/common-page.asp?id=home >> >> >> >> >> ICU MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/nikturnerinnercityunit >> >> >> >> >> FREEDOM! > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Owen O'Neill" > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:30 PM > To: > Subject: Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > >> What Hey! Nice. I listened to it on a hit of acid once. Draw the >> curtains... >> it's daylight... The rest of the album should be good too. What's >> Insolence >> mastered from? I just saw the video of you on youtube playing Ghost >> Riders. >> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:57 AM, trev wrote: >> >>> Insolence across the Nation was the brainchild of Barney Bubbles and was >>> created by Nik Turner on a Teak 4 track recorder. I'm on it, Dead Fred >>> is >>> on it, and Bob Calvert is on it. It is currently available in it's >>> massive >>> entirety as the 10th track on "Judgement and Thunder", available here: >>> http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html >>> It is the most unsettling and frightening track I have ever heard and I >>> admit that I am afraid to listen to it (I've played it twice). It is a >>> work >>> of great genius and I would advise the whole list to buy at least 2 >>> copies >>> each...cough! >>> It was released on F Beat records but was soon withdrawn because they >>> discovered that the soundtrack includes copyright performances by many >>> orchestra's, including, I believe the London Philharmonic. I am bravely >>> bootlegging it for the betterment of mankind and any record company who >>> raises an eyebrow at my release will be going home in an ambulance! >>> >>> it's a tenner plus postage >>> >>> Judge Trev >>> >>> tel: 0044 (0)1273 387645 >>> REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk >>> Festival CD's, Festival Photo Reviews, Festival Listings, Video >>> Downloads, >>> News, Healers >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Owen O'Neill" >>> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:36 AM >>> To: >>> Subject: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation >>> >>> >>> I first got that track I think in late '99 when it was found on >>>> doremi.co.uk. >>>> Hasn't been there for years, but someone must have it??? Also I'd sort >>>> of >>>> wondered about whether MP3 compression could badly parse such a >>>> recording >>>> like this where all that is going on. I know I've heard different >>>> "versions" possibly just from the original MP3 at the ICU site. >>>> (I'm usually not interested in hearing about Hitler but that's like the >>>> craziest/most complicated track I ever heard. And at the time I'd been >>>> studying lots of areas of recent history because otherwise I'd be >>>> constantly >>>> puzzled about some things. I noticed that lots of the material in it >>>> seemed >>>> to draw from a wartime report on hitler's personality, I think mostly >>>> prepared by English and American psycholanalysts, later it was expanded >>>> into >>>> a book called "The Mind of Adolf Hitler".) >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, >> > From elipxr5 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 10 00:01:14 2008 From: elipxr5 at AOL.COM (elipxr5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:01:14 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind Vinyl on Ebay Message-ID: I have about 30 Hawkwind and related, (Calvert,ICU, Nik Turner, Simon House, etc.) 12 inch vinyl albums up on Ebay ending Sunday and Monday. Quite a few are somewhat uncommon. Thanks for any interest. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Aug 10 04:21:26 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (microcosmick) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:21:26 -0500 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation Message-ID: > > Trev said: "country and western is much safer" > Trev I got such a kick introducing and having "cowboy mike" meet and spend > time with Nik and crew..... I met him by chance when I was tripping in a parking lot and this chick said "my neighbor LOVES hawkwind", and took me up to meet him when the proof that LSD does unknown things to the brain despite it's just a toxin like all the other shit for the most part..... you see, I had JUST received my copy on CD of "Passout" (mailorder from your old driver, John I think his name is), and when he (the cowboy) (whose motto was beer in right hand, cigarette in left, and girl, nevermind) produced his copy the tracers kicked in bad I got mad at RPM records because I had told them of it and he happened to be there to buy it despite I didn't need it and neither did he, you can only take a cowboy out so far in space before they need a line dance (is that a real dance?) He kept insisting that I get my jeans pleated down the middle, and go looking for cowgirls and that just didn't take........pretty cool guy though really he had multiple copies of Doremi and 2 turntables set up so you could play them together just slightly out of phase and he called this "flanging"??? it was kewel, anybody else ever do that????? m ps-and out of all my friends I brought along to drive the van so I wouldn't be responsible directly if anything happened to the god-men passengers, we found out who the real man was when it was time to drive home from, as Nik announced at the time "Hooston"....(we were leaving the tour and band at that point, they were sick of having a male groupie, me).....bunch of little girls....(cowboy swerved and failed miserably, a major ejection I gave him.....(they could have at least produced a line for me to discover I was really speeding on a trip) From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 10 16:04:12 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:04:12 +0100 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808100121u6705c719y6b30311352cccf26@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ha ha, yes, tex has mentioned nik's pronunciation of hooston...i don't understand, being a limey. how'r you supposed to pronounce it then? trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "microcosmick" Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:21 AM To: Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation >> >> Trev said: "country and western is much safer" > > > > >> Trev I got such a kick introducing and having "cowboy mike" meet and >> spend >> time with Nik and crew..... > > I met him by chance when I was tripping in a parking lot and this chick > said > "my neighbor LOVES hawkwind", and took me up to meet him when the proof > that > LSD does unknown things to the brain despite it's just a toxin like all > the > other shit for the most part..... > you see, I had JUST received my copy on CD of "Passout" (mailorder from > your > old driver, John I think his name is), and when he (the cowboy) (whose > motto > was beer in right hand, cigarette in left, and girl, nevermind) produced > his > copy the tracers kicked in bad > I got mad at RPM records because I had told them of it and he happened to > be > there to buy it despite I didn't need it > and neither did he, you can only take a cowboy out so far in space before > they need a line dance (is that a real dance?) > He kept insisting that I get my jeans pleated down the middle, and go > looking for cowgirls and that just didn't take........pretty cool guy > though > really > he had multiple copies of Doremi and 2 turntables set up so you could play > them together just slightly out of phase and he called this "flanging"??? > it was kewel, anybody else ever do that????? > m > ps-and out of all my friends I brought along to drive the van so I > wouldn't > be responsible directly if anything happened to the god-men passengers, we > found out who the real man was when it was time to drive home from, as Nik > announced at the time "Hooston"....(we were leaving the tour and band at > that point, they were sick of having a male groupie, me).....bunch of > little > girls....(cowboy swerved and failed miserably, a major ejection I gave > him.....(they could have at least produced a line for me to discover I was > really speeding on a trip) > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Aug 10 18:04:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (microcosmick) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:04:06 -0500 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/10/08, trev wrote: > > ha ha, yes, tex has mentioned nik's pronunciation of hooston...i don't > understand, being a limey. > how'r you supposed to pronounce it then? you don't have the xenon codex do you From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Aug 10 22:14:39 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:14:39 -0500 Subject: comments on Eli's Hawkwind auctions Message-ID: of the few items left, thought I'd point out that he has a Captain Jesus and the Sunray dream LP up, as well as a perfectly preserved Roadhawks with sticker and poster, and a pretty nice 1st LP foldout the Captain Jesus was pressed extremely limited and is now worth quite a bit (yes, a lot) his postage (at least here in the USA) gets you the records unbumped by post, which is something I always demand, no matter extra cost I thought maybe some of you might need to know his ebay handle is : elihawkfan, and that is what you enter into an advanced serach to call up his stuff there will be more later, but I will be pointing out some things (with his permission) since he's my friend and he deserves a living wage not rage From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 11 05:25:06 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:25:06 +0100 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: <507565.88830.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 07:01:03PM +0000, Ian Abrahams typed out: > Even me, who didn't even bother with TMTYL or Knights of Space or, or, > or... :) I have to say, I think TMTYL is worth having. It's not their best album but it's a long way from being their worst and there's lots on it to like. _Knights of Space_, by the sound of it so far, maybe not so much... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 11 08:48:33 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:48:33 +0100 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808100121u6705c719y6b30311352cccf26@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610808101504i6ef40d68iaee50ffe57b12024@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: no -------------------------------------------------- From: "microcosmick" Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:04 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > On 8/10/08, trev wrote: >> >> ha ha, yes, tex has mentioned nik's pronunciation of hooston...i don't >> understand, being a limey. >> how'r you supposed to pronounce it then? > > > you don't have the xenon codex do you > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 11 08:50:51 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:50:51 +0100 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808100121u6705c719y6b30311352cccf26@mail.gmail.com> <17d80c610808101504i6ef40d68iaee50ffe57b12024@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: oh god i've just realized...microcosmic IS YOU JUST HOW MANY OF YOU ARE THERE OUT THERE T -------------------------------------------------- From: "microcosmick" Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:04 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > On 8/10/08, trev wrote: >> >> ha ha, yes, tex has mentioned nik's pronunciation of hooston...i don't >> understand, being a limey. >> how'r you supposed to pronounce it then? > > > you don't have the xenon codex do you > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 11 08:54:33 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:54:33 -0500 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: <20080811092505.GC5274@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 11 Aug 2008, at 04:25 , Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > I have to say, I think TMTYL is worth having. It's not their > best album but it's a long way from being their worst and there's lots > on it to like. Purely out of curiosity, I now find myself wondering what you would pick as their worst album and how many stand between it and TMTYL? :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 11 09:01:28 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:01:28 -0500 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > JUST HOW MANY OF YOU ARE THERE OUT THERE > *One.* Offspring would be an unnecessary distraction that would just take up more cement and toilet paper, causing further environmental damage, and I would have to mate with a human and the results would be less than stellar. I am the bishop of battle, master of all I survey, and I am all that is needed to turn the world upside down and destroy all of society as it is known once my mission is completed, I'm grabbing my french hassan, and I shall not pass through again you will then be able to tolerate it yourselves........ -------------------------------------------------- > From: "microcosmick" > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:04 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation > > On 8/10/08, trev wrote: >> >>> >>> ha ha, yes, tex has mentioned nik's pronunciation of hooston...i don't >>> understand, being a limey. >>> how'r you supposed to pronounce it then? >>> >> >> >> you don't have the xenon codex do you >> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 11 09:24:53 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:24:53 -0500 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808110601t61172c56v84cf0ee48dfbb31c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: and Jeez, I even remember (sort of) the 1969 moon landing.............don't you know what "Santa Claus" is/was/meant???? well I'll tell you.......BIG TROUBLE< (I told you about the parents didn't I??) (eyeroll) On 8/11/08, mike coleman wrote: > > JUST HOW MANY OF YOU ARE THERE OUT THERE >> *One.* > > Offspring would be an unnecessary distraction that would just take up more > cement and toilet paper, causing further environmental damage, and I would > have to mate with a human and the results would be less than stellar. > I am the bishop of battle, master of all I survey, and I am all that is > needed to turn the world upside down and destroy all of society as it is > known > once my mission is completed, I'm grabbing my french hassan, and I shall > not pass through again > you will then be able to tolerate it yourselves........ > > > -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "microcosmick" >> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:04 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation >> >> On 8/10/08, trev wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ha ha, yes, tex has mentioned nik's pronunciation of hooston...i don't >>>> understand, being a limey. >>>> how'r you supposed to pronounce it then? >>>> >>> >>> >>> you don't have the xenon codex do you >>> >>> > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 11 10:38:19 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:38:19 +0100 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: trev's message of Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:50:51 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 11 10:40:02 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:40:02 +0100 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:24:53 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 11 11:11:31 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:11:31 -0500 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: <200808111438.m7BEcJ9U008812@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 8/11/08, M Holmes wrote: > > > \Watch out! It's a trick!! He's TWINS!!! > > *This one's clever Trev, you best go listen to "the war I survived" on > you pod, leave this to me* OK mike, he who came before and also bore the 3 sevens sang about the phenomena before even joining gong or singing about my garden hose here: Open your eyes if you dare Future comes, all you know is that you'll share Suns and moons, many cycles, miles of days Your love shines like a beacon through the haze Your twin lives twined together Jigsaw, fit, snap together Your twin heads crowned together King and Queen, an extra gene Can your words cope with infinity ? You must communicate it perfectly Don't you think you can surely make it now ? You don't need anyone to show you how Your twin lives twined together Jigsaw, fit, snap together Your twin heads crowned together King and Queen, an extra gene it's called Stargazers From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 11 11:18:25 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:18:25 -0500 Subject: (OFF, open chat to JT)Re: ICU: Insolence Across the Nation In-Reply-To: <200808111440.m7BEe24X009046@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 8/11/08, M Holmes wrote: > > > ObBhorat: You doesn't believe the the MOON does you? How naive is that? not in any normal sense, it's just a storage orb.......I think their done with it, looks like china's gonna brave it From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Aug 11 12:08:34 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:08:34 +0000 Subject: Klangstorm: Flight Recorder Message-ID: Customers who bought this item also bought: SLOTERDIJK : Integration http://www.eurock.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=1289 _________________________________________________________________ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Aug 11 12:18:05 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (Gary Shindler) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:18:05 -0400 Subject: Soundgarden Inadvertently Reunites At Area Cinnabon Message-ID: bewlay68 at yahoo.com recommends a page from The Onion. 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From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 11 13:05:53 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:05:53 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: Soundgarden Inadvertently Reunites At Area Cinnabon Message-ID: Funny enough, while this was not one of my repertoire, I own the one with "dusty" is it??, and certain tracks got heavy play recently, second only to days of the new, one song "where are you" getting played so many times I was getting sick from malnutrition and so my little converter plug most mysteriously came unglued and wouldn't go back right......then.... sure don't miss that strecthy shit on the "black hole sun" vid god living without television and cable is so awesome wonder what crap they push now............Pamela Anderson with Rocket Men???? On 8/11/08, Gary Shindler wrote: > > bewlay68 at yahoo.com recommends a page from The Onion. > > The recommended page is: Soundgarden > Inadvertently Reunites At Area Cinnabon > > ************************************************************************ > You are receiving this email because your friend at > bewlay68 at yahoo.com sent it to you. If you do not wish to receive > emails like this, please contact your friend. > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 12 02:53:07 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:53:07 +0000 Subject: HW: wonder what this is??????? Message-ID: http://www.amazon.com/Hawk-Wind-Michael-editor-Tarachow/dp/B000J0PKOC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218521255&sr=1-12 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 12 11:48:42 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:42 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder what this is??????? Message-ID: On 8/12/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > http://www.amazon.com/Hawk-Wind-Michael-editor-Tarachow/dp/B000J0PKOC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218521255&sr=1-12 oh oh I wanna guess!!!! AUM, you spamming the forum without putting the word "spam"??? got the cash on my way to grocery store with .25 cents in my pocket.....thanks..... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 12 15:14:02 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:14:02 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder if the trade will happen?? Message-ID: On 8/12/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > now if only you could send me a dojo warrior and i'll throw some more > cash at you- > > alright, you couldn't have asked at a better time, 2 copies survived the > world's corpuscle response to the invader I am, I tended to sell the copy I > played once and this one is so mint it will creak if you open the > insert...... > warrior is my favorite, and I was planning on keeping these, BUT...get me a mint Italian Hassan sleeve and record, and it's yours OR, make a reasonably ridiculously high offer and I'll likely do it....... further, just curious, how many tracks show on the fool moon when in the cd player??? (and no, I only do vinyl right now, thanks tho') From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 12 22:15:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:15:06 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder if the trade will happen?? In-Reply-To: <358226.9268.qm@web23005.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8/12/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > are all your jokes on me? > I thought it was the lamp of truth, not a joke > my joke is on the entire human race......small potataos would fall way short placing you in any understandable dimension therein 50 bucks won't get a mint Italian Hassan ps-losers don't own French Hassans, just for the record (no pun intended), I was thinking me and FoFP could have ourselves a little fun survey to see what differing (anti-depresssant) meds are handed out in our respective countries (even though USA is really another British territory) for the less fortunate keepers (Kompletists) of voluminous material possesions but just can't quite enjoy a leisure listen to the space ritual due to that pesky recurring memory that their life's work likely will never be capped off...... From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Tue Aug 12 23:45:25 2008 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:45:25 -0400 Subject: Random possible BOC refence? In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808121915w5c42bef7p6fdf9b3c10f7216d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: New York City Oyster Bar named Balthazar? http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1034210136031747396IOvBKX Is the place referencing the band, the band the place, random cosmic coincidence? Bill From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 12 12:07:13 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:07:13 +0000 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder what this is??????? Message-ID: now if only you could send me a dojo warrior and i'll throw some more cash at you- 25 c warrior pah! ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008 5:48:42 PM Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder what this is??????? On 8/12/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > http://www.amazon.com/Hawk-Wind-Michael-editor-Tarachow/dp/B000J0PKOC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218521255&sr=1-12 oh oh I wanna guess!!!! AUM, you spamming the forum without putting the word "spam"??? got the cash on my way to grocery store with .25 cents in my pocket.....thanks..... Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Aug 13 18:41:22 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:41:22 +0000 Subject: old fashionef boc-l trade? Message-ID: Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (new sealed Plastichead have: Amon D??l (UK) - Fool Moon (new sealed Plastichead remaster CD) Amon D??l (UK) - Meetings With Menmachines Unremarkable Heroes OF The Past(new sealed Plastichead remaster CD) Church of Hed - s/t (Quarkspace spinoff) (sealed new CD) Hawkwind - Live From The Darkside (Yuri Gagarin show in digipak CD) (slight water damage on digi) Motorpsycho - It's A Love Cult (CD) (new unplayed, 2002) Quarkspace - Spacefolds 5 CD Quarkspace - Spacefolds 7 CD (sealed new) Quarkspace & Matt Howarth - Node In Peril (CD and Howarth's Comic book in sealed new digipak) The Sweet - Blockbuster! (as new, compilation) Nik Turner - The Prophets of Time (Cleopatra CD) (small deletion hole on bar code) ask for wantlist Christan PS: its been awhile since we did a poll. NP: The White Stripes "White Bloodcells" ObCD: Pierre Moerlen's Gong "Downwind" Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From albert at CELLSUM.COM Wed Aug 13 21:48:28 2008 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:48:28 -0400 Subject: Random possible BOC refence? In-Reply-To: <48A258D5.1000805@ugcs.caltech.edu> Message-ID: Coincidence I think. I've gone past the place and there's no other BOC references that I can see. On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:45 PM, Bill Bradley wrote: > New York City Oyster Bar named Balthazar? > http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1034210136031747396IOvBKX > > Is the place referencing the band, the band the place, random > cosmic coincidence? > > Bill > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 13 22:52:11 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:52:11 -0500 Subject: Random possible BOC refence? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just the mysterious machinations of Les Invisibles ..... Cheers, Carl On 13 Aug 2008, at 20:48 , Albert Bouchard wrote: > Coincidence I think. I've gone past the place and there's no other > BOC references that I can see. > > On Aug 12, 2008, at 11:45 PM, Bill Bradley wrote: >> New York City Oyster Bar named Balthazar? >> http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1034210136031747396IOvBKX >> Is the place referencing the band, the band the place, random >> cosmic coincidence? -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 14 04:04:53 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:04:53 -0500 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder if the TSOL trade will happen?? In-Reply-To: <731328.29609.qm@web23004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: *CONGRATUALTIONS ON THE COMPLETED COLLECTION CHRISTIAN, AND ALSO IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GIVEN THAT 99 PERCENT OF WHAT i SAY ON HERE IS BS, ASIDE OF HAWKWIND INFO, DON'T PUT YOURSELF DOWN, AND i AM PROOF THAT THE MUSIC ITESELF CAN BE THE DRUG* *NOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE FLICKNIFE PUNK SINGLES CD ON ANAGRAM???* *THERE IS ONLY ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY THAT DETERMINES IF A PERSON IS A WINNER IN LIFE OR A LOSER, ALL OTHER THINGS ARE MAN-MADE ILLUSORY BELIEFS, AND THAT IS THE FRENCH HASSAN* *i CAN'T EVEN FIND A DOJO WARRIOR ANYWHERE TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T RIP ME OFF INSTEAD OF MY RIPPING YOU OFF* On 8/14/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > Mike-L! Well well well I am in a mental hospital listening to TSOL all > the time so what do i know, I eat Zyprexa and Cisyrdinol gets shot in my ass > here at krankenhaus where I have spent the last 5 years as a loser. I smoke > hash joints once in a while with the daughter of one of the guys in > legendary Norw. psych/kraut band AKASHA. She gets me stoned so i get by. BTW > My TSOL collection is complete, for all to behold: (I am an old alt.punk'er > so I get to like The White Stripes too heheeee!) poseurs, leave them all > behind! > > > T.S.O.L. - T.S.O.L./Weathered Statues [first 2 EP's on one CD] > T.S.O.L. - Dance With Me [1st proper album 1980] > T.S.O.L. - Beneath The Shadows [1981] > T.S.O.L. - Thoughts Of Yesterday 1981-1982 (compilation) > T.S.O.L. - Change Today? (1984) [first with new singer Joe Wood] (bonus > tracks) > T.S.O.L. - Revenge [Joe's bloated and bluesy punky-pukey "bad boy" rock > ...] > T.S.O.L. - Hit And Run (1987) [on the way to heavy rock, and Joe singing > his dirty bad boy blues a factor.] > T.S.O.L. - Strangelove (1990) [awful heavy rock, and only 1 original member > left.] > T.S.O.L. - Hell & Back Together: 1984-1990 [comp. of the Joe/Mitch era, > w/prev. unreleased live tracks] > T.S.O.L. - Live '91 [unofficial reunion with original lineup, Jack & Todd, > Ron & Mike...] > T.S.O.L. - Disappear [their 2001 comeback - and a great one.... the classic > original early lineup] > T.S.O.L. - Who's Screwing Who... Greatest Non Hits! [re-recorded classics > chosen by the fans] > T.S.O.L. - Divided We Stand (2003) > T.S.O.L. - 4 Songs EP (2005) (CDR) > Tender Fury - Garden Of Evil [w/ Jack of T.S.O.L./Joykiller] > Tender Fury - If Anger Were Soul, I'd Be James Brown > The Joykiller - Ready Sexed Go!: Anthology [w/Jack Grisham and Ron Emory > from T.S.O.L.] > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008 4:15:06 > Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder if the trade will happen?? > > On 8/12/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > > are all your jokes on me? > > > > > > I thought it was the lamp of truth, not a joke > > > > my joke is on the entire human race......small potataos would fall way > short placing you in any understandable dimension therein > 50 bucks won't get a mint Italian Hassan > ps-losers don't own French Hassans, just for the record (no pun intended), > I > was thinking me and FoFP could have ourselves a little fun survey to see > what differing (anti-depresssant) meds are handed out in our respective > countries (even though USA is really another British territory) for the > less > fortunate keepers (Kompletists) of voluminous material possesions but just > can't quite enjoy a leisure listen to the space ritual due to that pesky > recurring memory that their life's work likely will never be capped > off...... > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 14 08:09:40 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:09:40 +0100 Subject: NIK: Inner City Unit gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 07:45:03PM +0100, trev typed out: > It is now confirmed that Gregg Mackella's Paradise 9 will be supporting ICU > at the Inn on the Green gig. > This band is a little-known Psychedelic Punk band but one who's musical > prowess must be heard. > Greg himself, in his younger years was a pro busker who blasted commuters > with Space Music on the London Underground...face-to-face in the tube > carriages, not on the platform. He still has the summonses to prove it! > It's time that their hour came. They are a very very good band indeed both > in playing standard and material. Lumme, yes, I think I remember being at one of those performances. That was quite fun :-) I can't remember if he was any good, mind, but I'll be happy to find out. How are the ICU rehearsals going? Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 14 09:03:58 2008 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:03:58 +0000 Subject: HW: Atomhenge site Message-ID: List members here might find this of interest: --- On Thu, 8/14/08, caravansongs wrote: From: caravansongs Subject: [Hawkwind] Atomhenge site To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 1:56 PM Hi guys we have now set up the basic pages for Atomhenge and this will be added to as releases come along. It isnt intended as a pure "Hawkwind" site, hence we wont be having great big biogs/discogs etc, its intended to be used for news and direct purchasing of the catalogue that will appear on Atomhenge as its released. We have set up the mailing list on there for anyone wanting to keep up to date with news of the releases and once the catalogue kicks off I tend to do once a month updates. Its an opt in mailing list so I cant just go adding anyone willy-nilly, you have to add yourself. Also no lists will be "passed on" etc. www.atomhenge. com Thanks Vicky __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Polls Hawkwind e-group! The world's #1 and greatest e-source for Hawkwind fans -- created and maintained by Hawkwind fans! Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity ?3 New Members ?1 New LinksVisit Your Group Yahoo! Search Find it now Everything you need in one place. Yahoo! Groups Special K ChallengeJoin others who are losing pounds. Yahoo! Groups Join people over 40 who are finding ways to stay in shape. . __,_._,___ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 14 09:32:11 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:32:11 +0100 Subject: NIK: Inner City Unit gigs In-Reply-To: <20080814120940.GD8439@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: icu have only rehearsed once, and funnily enough that was the day before the standard gig, which you did an accurate review of (enough said) we will never rehearse again if we ever catch any band rehearsing we will kill them and their families and kids if any one even dares say the now forbidden word "rehearse" they will be publicly burned alive along with their families and kids of course. judge trev "and in righteousness he judges and in righteousness he wages war" -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:09 PM To: Subject: Re: NIK: Inner City Unit gigs > On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 07:45:03PM +0100, trev typed out: >> It is now confirmed that Gregg Mackella's Paradise 9 will be supporting >> ICU >> at the Inn on the Green gig. >> This band is a little-known Psychedelic Punk band but one who's musical >> prowess must be heard. >> Greg himself, in his younger years was a pro busker who blasted commuters >> with Space Music on the London Underground...face-to-face in the tube >> carriages, not on the platform. He still has the summonses to prove it! >> It's time that their hour came. They are a very very good band indeed >> both >> in playing standard and material. > > Lumme, yes, I think I remember being at one of those > performances. That was quite fun :-) I can't remember if he was any > good, mind, but I'll be happy to find out. How are the ICU rehearsals > going? Yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 14 11:12:30 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:12:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <303005.59409.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 03:36:43PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer typed out: > I tried liking PT in the 90s on the Delerium label, got a bunch of > stuff from BOC-L'er Randy Abeck (where is he now) on cassette after > reading about Wilson in magazines like Freak Beat etc. Stuff like "Sky > Moves Sideways" i thought was pretty boring. I got "Signify" on > Delerium CD when it came out and it bored me AGAIN! I traded the CD > off in rec.music.progressive, I never got beyond the long whoshes of > Floyd numbness. BUT, when I started getting into music again after > tossing all my HW and other CDs in the bin (i swore I was without need > for any of it), around 2003-4, well I discovered that PT had turned > METAL and gotten much attention and were huge in prog circles when > Prog became cool (or uncool, if you think Radiohead has anything to do > with Prog then hang yourself) again I started downloading PT on The > Pirate Bay and thought they were a band I really had missed out on > with stuff like "Stupid Dream" which i really liked. Well, there's a difference; as is well-documented on here I think _Stupid Dream_ is their weakest, and certainly flabbiest, album. I do like the new style too, but that album still sings of an uncertain change in direction and contains some stuff that should never have seen the light of day, which up till then had not been something one could say of PT. > So I now have most PT CDs on either CDRs and some remasters of the > early Delerium and have taken a liking to them. I got "Nil Recurring" > and was really disappointed in it. "Fear" and "Deadwing" were pretty > cool though. I think its bizarre how they went metal but it works. Did > they sell out, that is the question. Well, I remember the last PT gig I went to, when _Stupid Dream_ was not quite a new album any more and the material for _Lightbulb Sun_ was entering the setlist. They did two sets that evening, no support band. The first set was all old psychedelic stuff, plus `Russia on Ice' which was marvellous and `Tinto Brass' for the opener which also worked well. It reminded me of everything I thought was great about this band, the interplay, the arcane synth noise and the fantastic guitar sound most of all. Then the second set was basically singles hour. About half the songs were led off by Steven Wilson on an acoustic and Colin Edwin seemed to spend more of the set watching him than he did playing. It reminded me of everything I thought sucked about the `new direction'; it was self-indulgent, twee, didn't involve the band, wasn't even faintly altered-sounding and all the songs sounded alike. Now the middle three things they have cured, but the first and last even the new stuff still battles with. Mind you, I'm two albums behind, I haven't got _Fear of a Blank Planet_ yet even (and didn't like the Blackfield album much). What did you find wrong about the new one? It sounds like it might be either more interesting than the regular output, or else another _Metanoia_... Yours, Jon (who also doesn't yet have the last Drunk Horse album, which is far more serious a problem) -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From drgoon at MAC.COM Thu Aug 14 12:59:25 2008 From: drgoon at MAC.COM (Gordon Hundley) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:59:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <303005.59409.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > I discovered that PT had turned METAL and gotten much attention and > were huge in prog circles when Prog became cool (or uncool, if you > think Radiohead has anything to do with Prog then hang yourself) I had decided that based on many of their obvious influences, it was okay to consider Radiohead prog-related. However, on reading your advice, I decided to hang myself. Tragically, it turns out that the rope was made by a prog artist and it was too long. Gordon. From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 14 01:56:08 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:56:08 +0000 Subject: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder if the TSOL trade will happen?? Message-ID: Mike-L! Well well well I am in a mental hospital listening to TSOL all the time so what do i know, I eat Zyprexa and Cisyrdinol gets shot in my ass here at krankenhaus where I have spent the last 5 years as a loser. I smoke hash joints once in a while with the daughter of one of the guys in legendary Norw. psych/kraut band AKASHA. She gets me stoned so i get by. BTW My TSOL collection is complete, for all to behold: (I am an old alt.punk'er so I get to like The White Stripes too heheeee!) poseurs, leave them all behind! T.S.O.L. - T.S.O.L./Weathered Statues [first 2 EP's on one CD] T.S.O.L. - Dance With Me [1st proper album 1980] T.S.O.L. - Beneath The Shadows [1981] T.S.O.L. - Thoughts Of Yesterday 1981-1982 (compilation) T.S.O.L. - Change Today? (1984) [first with new singer Joe Wood] (bonus tracks) T.S.O.L. - Revenge [Joe's bloated and bluesy punky-pukey "bad boy" rock ...] T.S.O.L. - Hit And Run (1987) [on the way to heavy rock, and Joe singing his dirty bad boy blues a factor.] T.S.O.L. - Strangelove (1990) [awful heavy rock, and only 1 original member left.] T.S.O.L. - Hell & Back Together: 1984-1990 [comp. of the Joe/Mitch era, w/prev. unreleased live tracks] T.S.O.L. - Live '91 [unofficial reunion with original lineup, Jack & Todd, Ron & Mike...] T.S.O.L. - Disappear [their 2001 comeback - and a great one.... the classic original early lineup] T.S.O.L. - Who's Screwing Who... Greatest Non Hits! [re-recorded classics chosen by the fans] T.S.O.L. - Divided We Stand (2003) T.S.O.L. - 4 Songs EP (2005) (CDR) Tender Fury - Garden Of Evil [w/ Jack of T.S.O.L./Joykiller] Tender Fury - If Anger Were Soul, I'd Be James Brown The Joykiller - Ready Sexed Go!: Anthology [w/Jack Grisham and Ron Emory from T.S.O.L.] ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008 4:15:06 Subject: Re: (OFF)Re: HW: wonder if the trade will happen?? On 8/12/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > are all your jokes on me? > I thought it was the lamp of truth, not a joke > my joke is on the entire human race......small potataos would fall way short placing you in any understandable dimension therein 50 bucks won't get a mint Italian Hassan ps-losers don't own French Hassans, just for the record (no pun intended), I was thinking me and FoFP could have ourselves a little fun survey to see what differing (anti-depresssant) meds are handed out in our respective countries (even though USA is really another British territory) for the less fortunate keepers (Kompletists) of voluminous material possesions but just can't quite enjoy a leisure listen to the space ritual due to that pesky recurring memory that their life's work likely will never be capped off...... Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 08:54:08 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:54:08 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: Mind you, I'm two albums behind, I haven't got _Fear of a B Mind you, I'm two albums behind, I haven't got _Fear of a Blank Planet_ yet even (and didn't like the Blackfield album much). What did you find wrong about the new one? It sounds like it might be either more interesting than the regular output, or else another _Metanoia_... The "Nil Recurring" thing sounds like washed up Industrial music with lame lyrics about teenagers smoking pot. Real bad! The techno-beats are typical "new direction of Prog" thing and its not very satisfying - Christian Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 12:41:35 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:41:35 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: Well I like MUSE alot, their song "Take A Bow" sounds like Genesis ca. "Watcher In The Skies", the kbds and lyrics are real Prog. But Radiohead sounds like lamer indie rock to me. c. ----- Original Message ---- From: Gordon Hundley To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 14 August, 2008 18:59:25 Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version On Aug 7, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > I discovered that PT had turned METAL and gotten much attention and > were huge in prog circles when Prog became cool (or uncool, if you > think Radiohead has anything to do with Prog then hang yourself) I had decided that based on many of their obvious influences, it was okay to consider Radiohead prog-related. However, on reading your advice, I decided to hang myself. Tragically, it turns out that the rope was made by a prog artist and it was too long. Gordon. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 14:54:23 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:54:23 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: I bought 13th Star by Fish which has that terrible staccato new-prog techno sound - i am truly now fully initiated a lost little loser in jehovahs witnesses ?? ::::::::::::::: The "Nil Recurring" thing sounds like washed up Industrial music with lame lyrics about teenagers smoking pot. Real bad! The techno-beats are typical "new direction of Prog" thing and its not very satisfying - Christian Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From tim at KALYR.COM Fri Aug 15 17:30:09 2008 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:30:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <3388.42074.qm@web23007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > I bought 13th Star by Fish which has that terrible staccato new-prog techno sound - i am truly now fully initiated a lost little loser in jehovahs witnesses ?? > Techno is the future of prog - just listen to Wishbone Ash's "Psychic Terrorism" album. Fish's 13th Star and Porcupine Tree's Fear of a Blank Planet were my top two albums of 2007 - so maybe I've been assimilated into new-prog techno.... -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 15 19:20:56 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:20:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <48A5F561.7040305@kalyr.com> Message-ID: On 8/15/08, Tim Hall wrote: "Techno is the future of prog - just listen to Wishbone Ash's "Psychic Terrorism" album. Fish's 13th Star and Porcupine Tree's Fear of a Blank Planet were my top two albums of 2007 - so maybe I've been assimilated into new-prog techno...." and just to revisit a years old difference in dietary intake (with jon), I started with porcupine tree from the very first moment of hitting CD, and if I were on a sinking ship with my cargo of cd's , stupid dream would be the last to go.......I personally liked the pre-metal style (not thinking if SD is or isn't), and as I sit here, listening to fear o. b. p., I like it, as I will always like anything the gods do, but it fails to uplift much.........but I am full aware it could hit me 6 years from now........ say maybe Inner City Unit featuring he whom sits upon the light throne, should frisk attendees for pen and parchment LOL.... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 15 19:48:55 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:48:55 -0500 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon Message-ID: christian please provide your thoughts on this one (no repercussions, promise) From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Aug 15 19:49:38 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:49:38 -0700 Subject: Peter Hammill's to tour America Message-ID: http://www.sofasound.com/touring.htm And he's coming to Kansas City! Woo hoo! Gary From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 15 20:23:34 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:23:34 -0500 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <219008.84733.qm@web23001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8/15/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > mike > the first track has spooky lyrics which i liked. the music isnt very > interesting imo. i did like menmachines more. havent listened at the whole > thing yet, so i have no opinion yet,but later i will make my opinions known. > christian > > > Oh yeah , you're a lyric guy.....this is where my ADD/ignorance? shows up, > but just like I can't stand reading books, music to me has always been about > the sound and the vibe, as I am the world's worst at making out lyrics > anyway, but I prefer that they remain part of the overall sound, and to > interpret what I do hear in my own way > sidenote: mary b has had me looking at Hawkwind lyrics, and wow, sure glad I did I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest things there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and profound, when it really isn't saying much at all and of course my favorite on that cd, has no lyrics...never heard menmachines you got me there..... From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 19:42:44 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:42:44 +0000 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version Message-ID: I also think Stupid Dream their best. I think its before the Metal style kicked in. That happened around "In Absentia" 2001-2ish. mike wrote: and just to revisit a years old difference in dietary intake (with jon), I started with porcupine tree from the very first moment of hitting CD, and if I were on a sinking ship with my cargo of cd's , stupid dream would be the last to go.......I personally liked the pre-metal style (not thinking if SD is or isn't), and as I sit here, listening to fear o. b. p., I like it, as I will always like anything the gods do, but it fails to uplift much.........but I am full aware it could hit me 6 years from now........ say maybe Inner City Unit featuring he whom sits upon the light throne, should frisk attendees for pen and parchment LOL.... Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 19:58:46 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:58:46 +0000 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon Message-ID: mike the first track has spooky lyrics which i liked. the music isnt very interesting imo. i did like menmachines more. havent listened at the whole thing yet, so i have no opinion yet,but later i will make my opinions known. christian ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, 16 August, 2008 1:48:55 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon christian please provide your thoughts on this one (no repercussions, promise) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Aug 16 10:34:10 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:34:10 -0500 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808151723n683be215pb09ee18b337ca38d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: > I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest > things > there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and > profound, when it > really isn't saying much at all Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Aug 16 12:59:59 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:59:59 +0000 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon Message-ID: np: Psychic TV/PTV3 "hell is invisible, yes rawk lyrics rule......... np: Psychic TV/PTV3 "hell is invisible, heaven is her/E" ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, 16 August, 2008 16:34:10 Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: > I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest > things > there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and > profound, when it > really isn't saying much at all Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 16 23:11:46 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:11:46 -0500 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <25313.55096.qm@web23003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8/16/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > np: Psychic TV/PTV3 "hell is invisible, > yes rawk lyrics rule......... I guess I.E.M. would just be totally lost on you then, I'd weep for you, but > weeping in my case is totally useless...... From nexus at PANIX.COM Mon Aug 18 11:23:15 2008 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:23:15 -0400 Subject: Gig this weekend ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Mike, so is the gig still on for this weekend? What are the specs and details? And a set list? JB From nexus at PANIX.COM Mon Aug 18 11:33:42 2008 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:33:42 -0400 Subject: Gig this weekend ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Hey Mike, >so is the gig still on for this weekend? What are the specs and >details? And a set list? >JB Sorry folks, this was mean to be a private message. Umm. Bob Calvert still rocks and Secret Treaties is a great album. JB From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Aug 18 13:03:54 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:03:54 +0000 Subject: 2 upcoming OEB shows ( with Stewkey of NAZZ ) Message-ID: 08/28/2008 07:30 PM - Championships Sports Bar & Grill 931Chambers Street Trenton, New Jersey US Cost:TBA Description:One Eyed Bishops w/ Stewkey of NAZZ +Funks G and More TBA. Awaiting confirmationof this booking. Beer specials include $1.50 PBR/cans $1 Rolling Rock Pints, $2 Miller Lite Bottles DURING ALL SHOWS!!! Venue Phone number is: (609) 394-7437 or visit: http:www. myspace. com/championshipbar --------------------------------------------------------------------------------08/23/2008 08:30 PM - Uncle Mike?s 57 Murray St.New York (Tribeca section ), New York 10007 US Cost:check with venue Description:Great venue and a substantial move up for us in the BIG APPLE.This is going to be a great show! visit: http://www. myspace. com/unclemikestribeca This booking was done by Markel Entertainment.For booking information contact Dan Melnick at: (203 ) 927-7683 _________________________________________________________________ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 18 13:58:24 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (gravitational lensing) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:58:24 -0500 Subject: (OFF) FarfFlung Message-ID: I just saw I have access to colored wax of "wound in eternity" so if anybody has bus fare and handling fees...... mike c I just thought it was worth noting I guess vinyl is back and maybe for the wrong reasons my friend told me a while back people here in the states wanted it just to have more "stuff" to pose can I get some help removing "the nooge" from Texas??? this state still isn't big enough for the 2 of us From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Aug 18 14:00:51 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:00:51 -0700 Subject: (OFF) FarfFlung Message-ID: "W" will be coming back soon. Where's Kinky Friedman when you need him? ----- Original Message ---- From: gravitational lensing To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:58:24 PM Subject: (OFF) FarfFlung I just saw I have access to colored wax of "wound in eternity" so if anybody has bus fare and handling fees...... mike c I just thought it was worth noting I guess vinyl is back and maybe for the wrong reasons my friend told me a while back people here in the states wanted it just to have more "stuff" to pose can I get some help removing "the nooge" from Texas???? this state still isn't big enough for the 2 of us From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 18 14:22:13 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:22:13 -0500 Subject: (OFF) FarfFlung In-Reply-To: <559310.85730.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8/18/08, gary shindler wrote: > > "W" will be coming back soon. Where's Kinky Friedman when you need him? If I ever bother to even actually see an image of any of the political players, all my pea-brain sees is distorted puppets like some 80's MTV Genesis video Now, where the Bush's are concerned it is the father I am still focused on, from what I understand (again, with my pea-brain), he had the credentials to possibly know about and maybe even make some kind of move upon, the secret angels-egg hot potatoe....... From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 18 19:02:26 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:02:26 -0500 Subject: (OFF) FarfFlung incl HW slight return Message-ID: > > > On 8/18/08, gary shindler wrote: >> >> "W" will be coming back soon. Where's Kinky Friedman when you need him? > > > > according to wikki he's coming back too..... can he maybe get the nooog isolated and contained? we need to get a war going somewhere just for him to pay him back for his draft-dodge schenananigans, and if anybody SHOULD have gone to nam......(not that I really know anything about what I just said) has anybody played that 10" of Hawkwind silver machine(s )and do I need one?? does anybody have THE GUTS to tell this.....I dare you.......don't be sheep unto anyone From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 09:23:38 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:23:38 +0100 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <219008.84733.qm@web23001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <17d80c610808151723n683be215pb09ee18b337ca38d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: yes, well tex coleman has become far too much involved in specious conspiracy theories (because he lacks self-worth and it makes him feel important), to remeber that the positive humanistic contributions of music are (in reverse order of importance) 1. entertainment 2.emotional release 3.self-transcendence it can save you a lot of money in therapy bills anyway, i don't really care because i'm a rock star and i'm much better-looking than cole hole is trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:34 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: >> I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest >> things >> there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and profound, >> when it >> really isn't saying much at all > > > > Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Aug 17 13:11:30 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:11:30 +0000 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question Message-ID: i have yet to see Outside The Law by HLLG on CD. Does it exist? I have so far: Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Wind Of Change/Outside The Law 7" vinyl single Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Outside The Law (LP - live) Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Like An Arrow... (Through The Heart) (CD) & (LP) Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Time, Space & LLG (LP) & (CD) Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Elegy (CD) Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Night Air (CD) & (LP) Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - River Run (CD 1994) Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Chain Reaction(1999) Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move (CD 1996) Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move... Plus (bonus tracks & diff. cover art) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 19 10:33:29 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:33:29 +0000 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon Message-ID: get this: i get free housing and food because i live at a mental hospital ! and free therapy which i do not need! i am fat and ugly now but no-one has to see my face even though i am a widely published comics artist (Mad magazine in Norway for instance) Haha! Christian ----- Original Message ---- From: trev To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 15:23:38 Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon yes, well tex coleman has become far too much involved in specious conspiracy theories (because he lacks self-worth and it makes him feel important), to remeber that the positive humanistic contributions of music are (in reverse order of importance) 1. entertainment 2.emotional release 3.self-transcendence it can save you a lot of money in therapy bills anyway, i don't really care because i'm a rock star and i'm much better-looking than cole hole is trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:34 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: >> I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest >> things >> there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and profound, >> when it >> really isn't saying much at all > > > > Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 13:39:38 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:39:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version In-Reply-To: <3388.42074.qm@web23007.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <48A5F561.7040305@kalyr.com> <17d80c610808151620x2d447260x76ddbbb5d8421ee2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "techno" will now be added to the list of banned words (in addition to "rehearsal") all who are found guilty of uttering this unspeakable blasphemy against the one true god will suffer the usual penalty (burning at the stake along with relatives and kids) judge trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "mike coleman" Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:20 AM To: Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree "Even Less" Demo version vs. "Stupid Dream" rewritten version > On 8/15/08, Tim Hall wrote: > "Techno is the future of prog - just listen to Wishbone Ash's "Psychic > Terrorism" album. > Fish's 13th Star and Porcupine Tree's Fear of a Blank Planet were my top > two > albums of 2007 - so maybe I've been assimilated into new-prog techno...." > > and just to revisit a years old difference in dietary intake (with jon), I > started with porcupine tree from the very first moment of hitting CD, and > if > I were on a sinking ship with my cargo of cd's , stupid dream would be the > last to go.......I personally liked the pre-metal style (not thinking if > SD > is or isn't), and as I sit here, listening to fear o. b. p., I like it, as > I > will always like anything the gods do, but it fails to uplift > much.........but I am full aware it could hit me 6 years from now........ > say maybe Inner City Unit featuring he whom sits upon the light throne, > should frisk attendees for pen and parchment LOL.... > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 13:49:37 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:49:37 +0100 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <383083.69980.qm@web23004.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: well you should keep plugging at the mad magazine then christian lol show us your artwork how about some icu stuff...featuring me mainly... trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:33 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > get this: i get free housing and food because i live at a mental hospital > ! and free therapy which i do not need! i am fat and ugly now but no-one > has to see my face even though i am a widely published comics artist (Mad > magazine in Norway for instance) > > Haha! > Christian > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: trev > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 15:23:38 > Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > > yes, well tex coleman has become far too much involved in specious > conspiracy theories (because he lacks self-worth and it makes him feel > important), to remeber that the positive humanistic contributions of music > are (in reverse order of importance) > 1. entertainment > 2.emotional release > 3.self-transcendence > > it can save you a lot of money in therapy bills > > anyway, i don't really care because i'm a rock star and i'm much > better-looking than cole hole is > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:34 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > >> On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: >>> I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest >>> things >>> there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and profound, >>> when it >>> really isn't saying much at all >> >> >> >> Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK Tue Aug 19 13:55:48 2008 From: imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK (Jason Gool) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:55:48 +0100 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <658527.55242.qm@web23003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? Jas > i have yet to see Outside The Law by HLLG on CD. Does it exist? I have so far: > > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Wind Of Change/Outside The Law 7" vinyl single > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Outside The Law (LP - live) > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Like An Arrow... (Through The Heart) (CD) & (LP) > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Time, Space & LLG (LP) & (CD) > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Elegy (CD) > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Night Air (CD) & (LP) > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - River Run (CD 1994) > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Chain Reaction(1999) > Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move (CD 1996) > Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move... Plus (bonus tracks & diff. cover art) > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Aug 19 14:14:38 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:14:38 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <48AB1734.21754.2520507@imaginos.pavilion.co.uk> Message-ID: On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: > Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete _Outside the Law_ album, though. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Aug 19 14:50:51 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:50:51 +0000 Subject: Iowa Punks to bill with classic rockers in Trenton, NJ 8/23 Message-ID: 'Funks G' to bill with 'The One Eyed Bishops' w/ Stewkey of NAZZ' in Trenton, NJAugust 28th, 2008http://i-newswire. com/pr187328. html _________________________________________________________________ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 17:24:53 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:24:53 -0500 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: *uhhh Trev......I.E.M. is music???* *cole hole is really really bad, can we just go back to dogdick??* *and by the way, I have finally achieved my crowning glory after endless nicotine stained hands, and sleepless day and night after sleepless day and night and I know what the truth is* *it's a doosey* ** ** On 8/19/08, trev wrote: > > yes, well tex coleman has become far too much involved in specious > conspiracy theories (because he lacks self-worth and it makes him feel > important), to remeber that the positive humanistic contributions of music > are (in reverse order of importance) > 1. entertainment > 2.emotional release > 3.self-transcendence > > it can save you a lot of money in therapy bills > > anyway, i don't really care because i'm a rock star and i'm much > better-looking than cole hole is > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:34 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > > On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: >> >>> I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest >>> things >>> there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and profound, >>> when it >>> really isn't saying much at all >>> >> >> >> >> Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> >> From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 17:37:21 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:37:21 -0500 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808191424g6d26af10q92b4eee2f2cc53ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: *and Trev the point of this is really to say that after weeding through (agency omitted) incoming information and disinformation at regular intervals to test me and see how successful the crossbreed was or wasn't, by having me pick wheat from chaff, I've saved the link with the guy that told how it really is but you hate computers and yourself and your career and most of all Nik so I didn't want to spam you at home there in the old folks place but if you want to know I'll cut you in however my Bajina CD was acting up when I tried to scare the neighbor's yet again at 7:30 am yesterday so it might cost you but probably not and yes unfortunately everyone on the list is better looking than me* On 8/19/08, mike coleman wrote: > > *uhhh Trev......I.E.M. is music???* > *cole hole is really really bad, can we just go back to dogdick??* > *and by the way, I have finally achieved my crowning glory after endless > nicotine stained hands, and sleepless day and night after sleepless day and > night and I know what the truth is* > *it's a doosey* > ** > ** > > > On 8/19/08, trev wrote: >> >> yes, well tex coleman has become far too much involved in specious >> conspiracy theories (because he lacks self-worth and it makes him feel >> important), to remeber that the positive humanistic contributions of music >> are (in reverse order of importance) >> 1. entertainment >> 2.emotional release >> 3.self-transcendence >> >> it can save you a lot of money in therapy bills >> >> anyway, i don't really care because i'm a rock star and i'm much >> better-looking than cole hole is >> >> trev >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" >> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:34 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon >> >> On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: >>> >>>> I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest >>>> things >>>> there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and profound, >>>> when it >>>> really isn't saying much at all >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Carl >>> >>> -- >>> Carl Edlund Anderson >>> http://www.carlaz.com/ >>> >>> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 17:54:27 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:54:27 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <5C274922-D69F-401C-941F-7A56C8A608D0@carlaz.com> Message-ID: The album likely will never see the light of day, if the Langtons have any say as I do not think Huw is proud of it, however I am of the opinion that if you play the vinyl and have a couple drinks (jeez it's time for me, I've become much too sober), the reverberating effect is quite enjoyable but actually finding the LP still won't end your chase per say because you will likely still not get to hear "working time"(or is that on an FnR now?) which thanks to one of the many gods among us on this forum, steve freight being no exception, I'll have it paid off likely before I die and so as usual, I win. ps-I think this may be one better left on vinyl, the cd "strength" might remove the ambience of what I said above and also "I see you", I think it's called you will likely lack since you lack my knowledge but that is OK you are younger and it makes sense On 8/19/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: > >> Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? >> > > > > The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete _Outside the > Law_ album, though. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 17:58:32 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:58:32 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808191454q697b7331v89fdcfba2cb0a7fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: oh, I see your large amounts of cash have already beat me, figures, so no, you have everything, and do you now see that no matter how many cds you get you are stuck with the same person you always were?? (sorry all the mails) On 8/19/08, mike coleman wrote: > > The album likely will never see the light of day, if the Langtons have any > say as I do not think Huw is proud of it, however I am of the opinion that > if you play the vinyl and have a couple drinks (jeez it's time for me, I've > become much too sober), the reverberating effect is quite enjoyable but > actually finding the LP still won't end your chase per say because you will > likely still not get to hear "working time"(or is that on an FnR > now?) which thanks to one of the many gods among us on this forum, steve > freight being no exception, I'll have it paid off likely before I die and so > as usual, I win. > ps-I think this may be one better left on vinyl, the cd "strength" might > remove the ambience of what I said above > and also "I see you", I think it's called you will likely lack since you > lack my knowledge but that is OK you are younger and it makes sense > > On 8/19/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >> On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: >> >>> Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? >>> >> >> >> >> The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete _Outside the >> Law_ album, though. >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 18:14:52 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:14:52 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <567689.24917.qm@web23003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: no, I made you an acceptable dood (I'm kidding), but nevermind that, go look at the depiction of the "like an arrow" cd on the voiceprint site, and if you can explain what has happened to the sacred heart, you can ascend higher On 8/19/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > well, i am a cool Hawkwind dude as i always have been so...... > > comics made me a cool dude. > > i have the OTL LP you buffoon > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 23:58:32 > Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question > > oh, I see your large amounts of cash have already beat me, figures, so no, > you have everything, and do you now see that no matter how many cds you get > you are stuck with the same person you always were?? (sorry all the mails) > > On 8/19/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > > The album likely will never see the light of day, if the Langtons have > any > > say as I do not think Huw is proud of it, however I am of the opinion > that > > if you play the vinyl and have a couple drinks (jeez it's time for me, > I've > > become much too sober), the reverberating effect is quite enjoyable but > > actually finding the LP still won't end your chase per say because you > will > > likely still not get to hear "working time"(or is that on an FnR > > now?) which thanks to one of the many gods among us on this forum, steve > > freight being no exception, I'll have it paid off likely before I die and > so > > as usual, I win. > > ps-I think this may be one better left on vinyl, the cd "strength" might > > remove the ambience of what I said above > > and also "I see you", I think it's called you will likely lack since you > > lack my knowledge but that is OK you are younger and it makes sense > > > > On 8/19/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> > >> On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: > >> > >>> Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete _Outside > the > >> Law_ album, though. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Carl > >> > >> -- > >> Carl Edlund Anderson > >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > >> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 18:36:24 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:36:24 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <50064.38509.qm@web23003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: sincere apologies christian, I like to kid around but not if it truly effects your status.....nobody is really supposed to be victimized by my googoo, and I broke my own ethics last night when I saw a baby whale in australia attached itself to a boat thinking it was it's mother and it said something about the whale dying..........I cried.....(couldn't read it) so if that whale does not live........ I think there may be a message in that heart on the voiceprint site On 8/19/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > you kidd around too much......... i used to be the main dood with nate, > howie, rinkus, ray and the party gang at Kubert school. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008 0:14:52 > Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question > > no, I made you an acceptable dood (I'm kidding), but nevermind that, go > look > at the depiction of the "like an arrow" cd on the voiceprint site, and if > you can explain what has happened to the sacred heart, you can ascend > higher > > On 8/19/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > > well, i am a cool Hawkwind dude as i always have been so...... > > > > comics made me a cool dude. > > > > i have the OTL LP you buffoon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: mike coleman > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 23:58:32 > > Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question > > > > oh, I see your large amounts of cash have already beat me, figures, so > no, > > you have everything, and do you now see that no matter how many cds you > get > > you are stuck with the same person you always were?? (sorry all the > mails) > > > > On 8/19/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > > > > The album likely will never see the light of day, if the Langtons have > > any > > > say as I do not think Huw is proud of it, however I am of the opinion > > that > > > if you play the vinyl and have a couple drinks (jeez it's time for me, > > I've > > > become much too sober), the reverberating effect is quite enjoyable but > > > actually finding the LP still won't end your chase per say because you > > will > > > likely still not get to hear "working time"(or is that on an FnR > > > now?) which thanks to one of the many gods among us on this forum, > steve > > > freight being no exception, I'll have it paid off likely before I die > and > > so > > > as usual, I win. > > > ps-I think this may be one better left on vinyl, the cd "strength" > might > > > remove the ambience of what I said above > > > and also "I see you", I think it's called you will likely lack since > you > > > lack my knowledge but that is OK you are younger and it makes sense > > > > > > On 8/19/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > >> > > >> On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: > > >> > > >>> Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete _Outside > > the > > >> Law_ album, though. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Carl > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Carl Edlund Anderson > > >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 21:35:59 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:35:59 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808191536q516ad341l42a106a947dfc412@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: wait!!! no man can fool with an alien!!!! (not the local texas ones) his collection is incomplete!!!!!! *Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha* *and to think my copy is already boxed up and addressed!!!!!* On 8/19/08, mike coleman wrote: > > sincere apologies christian, I like to kid around but not if it truly > effects your status.....nobody is really supposed to be victimized by my > googoo, and I broke my own ethics last night when I saw a baby whale in > australia attached itself to a boat thinking it was it's mother and it said > something about the whale dying..........I cried.....(couldn't read it) > so if that whale does not live........ > I think there may be a message in that heart on the voiceprint site > > On 8/19/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >> you kidd around too much......... i used to be the main dood with nate, >> howie, rinkus, ray and the party gang at Kubert school. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: mike coleman >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008 0:14:52 >> Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question >> >> no, I made you an acceptable dood (I'm kidding), but nevermind that, go >> look >> at the depiction of the "like an arrow" cd on the voiceprint site, and if >> you can explain what has happened to the sacred heart, you can ascend >> higher >> >> On 8/19/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> > >> > well, i am a cool Hawkwind dude as i always have been so...... >> > >> > comics made me a cool dude. >> > >> > i have the OTL LP you buffoon >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ---- >> > From: mike coleman >> > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> > Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 23:58:32 >> > Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question >> > >> > oh, I see your large amounts of cash have already beat me, figures, so >> no, >> > you have everything, and do you now see that no matter how many cds you >> get >> > you are stuck with the same person you always were?? (sorry all the >> mails) >> > >> > On 8/19/08, mike coleman wrote: >> > > >> > > The album likely will never see the light of day, if the Langtons have >> > any >> > > say as I do not think Huw is proud of it, however I am of the opinion >> > that >> > > if you play the vinyl and have a couple drinks (jeez it's time for me, >> > I've >> > > become much too sober), the reverberating effect is quite enjoyable >> but >> > > actually finding the LP still won't end your chase per say because you >> > will >> > > likely still not get to hear "working time"(or is that on an FnR >> > > now?) which thanks to one of the many gods among us on this forum, >> steve >> > > freight being no exception, I'll have it paid off likely before I die >> and >> > so >> > > as usual, I win. >> > > ps-I think this may be one better left on vinyl, the cd "strength" >> might >> > > remove the ambience of what I said above >> > > and also "I see you", I think it's called you will likely lack since >> you >> > > lack my knowledge but that is OK you are younger and it makes sense >> > > >> > > On 8/19/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> > >> >> > >> On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete >> _Outside >> > the >> > >> Law_ album, though. >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> Carl >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> > >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > Send instant messages to your online friends >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> > >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> > > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 19 14:23:54 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:23:54 +0000 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question Message-ID: ----- Original Message - yes sorry, the full live LP. :) ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 20:14:38 Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: > Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete _Outside the Law_ album, though. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 19 14:36:46 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:36:46 +0000 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon Message-ID: they thoug http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/eggfoolejung/index.html they thought it unlikely that such a primitive mind could ever take over the world of art bwahaha ----- Original Message ---- From: trev To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 19:49:37 Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon well you should keep plugging at the mad magazine then christian lol show us your artwork how about some icu stuff...featuring me mainly... trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:33 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > get this: i get free housing and food because i live at a mental hospital > ! and free therapy which i do not need! i am fat and ugly now but no-one > has to see my face even though i am a widely published comics artist (Mad > magazine in Norway for instance) > > Haha! > Christian > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: trev > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 15:23:38 > Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > > yes, well tex coleman has become far too much involved in specious > conspiracy theories (because he lacks self-worth and it makes him feel > important), to remeber that the positive humanistic contributions of music > are (in reverse order of importance) > 1. entertainment > 2.emotional release > 3.self-transcendence > > it can save you a lot of money in therapy bills > > anyway, i don't really care because i'm a rock star and i'm much > better-looking than cole hole is > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:34 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > >> On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: >>> I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest >>> things >>> there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and profound, >>> when it >>> really isn't saying much at all >> >> >> >> Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 19 18:03:38 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:03:38 +0000 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question Message-ID: comics well, i am a cool Hawkwind dude as i always have been so...... comics made me a cool dude. i have the OTL LP you buffoon ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 23:58:32 Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question oh, I see your large amounts of cash have already beat me, figures, so no, you have everything, and do you now see that no matter how many cds you get you are stuck with the same person you always were?? (sorry all the mails) On 8/19/08, mike coleman wrote: > > The album likely will never see the light of day, if the Langtons have any > say as I do not think Huw is proud of it, however I am of the opinion that > if you play the vinyl and have a couple drinks (jeez it's time for me, I've > become much too sober), the reverberating effect is quite enjoyable but > actually finding the LP still won't end your chase per say because you will > likely still not get to hear "working time"(or is that on an FnR > now?) which thanks to one of the many gods among us on this forum, steve > freight being no exception, I'll have it paid off likely before I die and so > as usual, I win. > ps-I think this may be one better left on vinyl, the cd "strength" might > remove the ambience of what I said above > and also "I see you", I think it's called you will likely lack since you > lack my knowledge but that is OK you are younger and it makes sense > > On 8/19/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >> On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: >> >>> Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? >>> >> >> >> >> The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete _Outside the >> Law_ album, though. >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 19 18:24:17 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:24:17 +0000 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question Message-ID: you kidd around too much......... i used to be the main dood with nate, howie, rinkus, ray and the party gang at Kubert school. ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008 0:14:52 Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question no, I made you an acceptable dood (I'm kidding), but nevermind that, go look at the depiction of the "like an arrow" cd on the voiceprint site, and if you can explain what has happened to the sacred heart, you can ascend higher On 8/19/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > well, i am a cool Hawkwind dude as i always have been so...... > > comics made me a cool dude. > > i have the OTL LP you buffoon > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 23:58:32 > Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question > > oh, I see your large amounts of cash have already beat me, figures, so no, > you have everything, and do you now see that no matter how many cds you get > you are stuck with the same person you always were?? (sorry all the mails) > > On 8/19/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > > The album likely will never see the light of day, if the Langtons have > any > > say as I do not think Huw is proud of it, however I am of the opinion > that > > if you play the vinyl and have a couple drinks (jeez it's time for me, > I've > > become much too sober), the reverberating effect is quite enjoyable but > > actually finding the LP still won't end your chase per say because you > will > > likely still not get to hear "working time"(or is that on an FnR > > now?) which thanks to one of the many gods among us on this forum, steve > > freight being no exception, I'll have it paid off likely before I die and > so > > as usual, I win. > > ps-I think this may be one better left on vinyl, the cd "strength" might > > remove the ambience of what I said above > > and also "I see you", I think it's called you will likely lack since you > > lack my knowledge but that is OK you are younger and it makes sense > > > > On 8/19/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > >> > >> On 19 Aug 2008, at 12:55 , Jason Gool wrote: > >> > >>> Isn't it on The Best Of Friends And Relations? > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> The song is. I think Christian is talking about the complete _Outside > the > >> Law_ album, though. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Carl > >> > >> -- > >> Carl Edlund Anderson > >> http://www.carlaz.com/ > >> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 19 22:52:12 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:52:12 +0100 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <669388.2403.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: you are a genuius i had no idea you were so good. coleman misled me do stuff for us...i will recommend you if we have specific art requirments in the future you are pisces - i am scorpio. we will relate well so long as you obey me without question he he "and in righteousness he judges...and in righteousness he wages war" trev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:36 PM To: Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > they thoug > http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/eggfoolejung/index.html > > they thought it unlikely that such a primitive mind could ever take over > the world of art bwahaha > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: trev > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 19:49:37 > Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > > well you should keep plugging at the mad magazine then christian lol > show us your artwork > how about some icu stuff...featuring me mainly... > > trev > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:33 PM > To: > Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > >> get this: i get free housing and food because i live at a mental hospital >> ! and free therapy which i do not need! i am fat and ugly now but no-one >> has to see my face even though i am a widely published comics artist (Mad >> magazine in Norway for instance) >> >> Haha! >> Christian >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: trev >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008 15:23:38 >> Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon >> >> yes, well tex coleman has become far too much involved in specious >> conspiracy theories (because he lacks self-worth and it makes him feel >> important), to remeber that the positive humanistic contributions of >> music >> are (in reverse order of importance) >> 1. entertainment >> 2.emotional release >> 3.self-transcendence >> >> it can save you a lot of money in therapy bills >> >> anyway, i don't really care because i'm a rock star and i'm much >> better-looking than cole hole is >> >> trev >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" >> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 3:34 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon >> >>> On 15 Aug 2008, at 19:23 , mike coleman wrote: >>>> I sometimes used to think that music was really one of the silliest >>>> things >>>> there is, with so much of it sounding so earth-shaking and profound, >>>> when it >>>> really isn't saying much at all >>> >>> >>> >>> Always one of the attractions, I thought. :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Carl >>> >>> -- >>> Carl Edlund Anderson >>> http://www.carlaz.com/ >>> >> >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Aug 20 12:28:25 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:28:25 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops w/Stewkey gig reminders for the remainder of August Message-ID: 08/28/2008 07:30 PM - Championships Sports Bar & Grill 931Chambers Street Trenton, New Jersey US Cost:TBA Description:One Eyed Bishops w/ Stewkey of NAZZ +Funks G and More TBA. 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Jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: caravansongs To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: [Hawkwind] Chance for a free copy of all of the new reissues etc Hi guys I will be making a draw on Wednesday next week for 2 people to get a free copy of all titles we release on Atomhenge. All people who are registered on the Atomhenge mailing list by next wednesday will be eligible and it will be done as a "blind stab" at the list, so if you arent registered --nows your chance. Im doing it this way as its more likley its the "hardened" fans who will already have registered. It is an opt in list , so you will be sent a link that you need to click on to activate it. This means I cant add people who havent asked to join. Once the releases start, the mailing will go out once a month with an update on new titles. Cheers Vicky __,_._,___ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 20 19:19:47 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:19:47 -0500 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] Chance for a free copy of all of the new reissues etc In-Reply-To: <01dd01c90315$e6067830$6901a8c0@jillspc> Message-ID: awesome Jill, I toyed seriously with the idea trying to BS and get free copies, the cds are killing me as I go hungry trying to make wilfried jealous every chance I get oh yeah, the israel doremi isn't rare, oh yeah..... but still a blessing here as I must sign up this instant and you have relieved me of the dreaded searching out the now buried link not to mention reminding me say, your not put off or anooyed or horrified at me I hope, and beyond this I'll be darned if I didn't just now catch the years 19-79 through 2004 on the Hawklords gray (mines black of course) 12", and wonder what kind of research exactly concluded 4 years back On 8/20/08, Jill Strobridge wrote: > > This appeared on the Yahoogroup list and may be of interest to those who > don't get mailings from there. > > Jill > ============================================== > Jill Strobridge > ============================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: caravansongs > To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:06 PM > Subject: [Hawkwind] Chance for a free copy of all of the new reissues etc > > Hi guys > > I will be making a draw on Wednesday next week for 2 people to get a > free copy of all titles we release on Atomhenge. > > All people who are registered on the Atomhenge mailing list by next > wednesday will be eligible and it will be done as a "blind stab" at > the list, so if you arent registered --nows your chance. Im doing it > this way as its more likley its the "hardened" fans who will already > have registered. > > It is an opt in list , so you will be sent a link that you need to > click on to activate it. This means I cant add people who havent > asked to join. Once the releases start, the mailing will go out once > a month with an update on new titles. > > Cheers > > Vicky > > > > > __,_._,___ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 20 21:29:14 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:29:14 -0500 Subject: (OFF)[Hawkwind] Chance for a free copy of all of the new reissues etc Message-ID: I cringe sending another post (not that I wouldn't relish 10 million of whomevers), but since Wilfried is a great friend, I wish to clarify I was teasing about him and further that the Israel doremi was not to make him jealous hoever if I get hands on somtehing that could I'd be OK with that, however he sometimes cannot pinpoint a value, etc, as in above doremi that he already has for many years......... so that said can anybody clarify that you would expect an ornage label on a german CYM vinyl since I sent him a link.....(his is black) I'd swear my two german RCA's and the one South African Church Of created a complete set of orange.... sorry I have low self esteem, not the lowest mind you, but low oop bye bye m On 8/20/08, mike coleman wrote: > > awesome Jill, I toyed seriously with the idea trying to BS and get free > copies, the cds are killing me as I go hungry trying to make wilfried > jealous every chance I get > oh yeah, the israel doremi isn't rare, oh yeah..... > but still a blessing here as I must sign up this instant and you have > relieved me of the dreaded searching out the now buried link not to mention > reminding me > say, your not put off or anooyed or horrified at me I hope, and beyond this > I'll be darned if I didn't just now catch the years 19-79 through 2004 on > the Hawklords gray (mines black of course) 12", and wonder what kind of > research exactly concluded 4 years back > > > > On 8/20/08, Jill Strobridge wrote: >> >> This appeared on the Yahoogroup list and may be of interest to those who >> don't get mailings from there. >> >> Jill >> ============================================== >> Jill Strobridge >> ============================================== >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: caravansongs >> To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:06 PM >> Subject: [Hawkwind] Chance for a free copy of all of the new reissues etc >> >> Hi guys >> >> I will be making a draw on Wednesday next week for 2 people to get a >> free copy of all titles we release on Atomhenge. >> >> All people who are registered on the Atomhenge mailing list by next >> wednesday will be eligible and it will be done as a "blind stab" at >> the list, so if you arent registered --nows your chance. Im doing it >> this way as its more likley its the "hardened" fans who will already >> have registered. >> >> It is an opt in list , so you will be sent a link that you need to >> click on to activate it. This means I cant add people who havent >> asked to join. Once the releases start, the mailing will go out once >> a month with an update on new titles. >> >> Cheers >> >> Vicky >> >> >> >> >> __,_._,___ >> > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 21 07:00:49 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:00:49 +0100 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] Chance for a free copy of all of the new reissues etc In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:41:34 +0100 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG Thu Aug 21 07:54:28 2008 From: ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG (Ian Jeffcock) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:54:28 +0800 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One other bit of info is that "Wind Of Change" is not on any of the Friends and Relations CDs, but can be found on "The Best of Indie Metal" CD, currently available on eBay for as low as GBP 1.49 definitely worth buying to complete your Huw CD collection. Just for the record, these are the 3 tracks on friends and relations: (1) Outside The Law - A side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law (2) Working Time - B side from 7" single Wind Of Change (3) I See You - B side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law And there is a Huw gig currently up on Dime that I posted there, from the same era as Outside The Law, and probably better quality too, from Leadmill, Sheffield 22-Jan-1984. At 05:00 AM 8/20/2008 -0400, you wrote: > > i have yet to see Outside The Law by HLLG on CD. Does it exist? I have > so far: > > > > > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Wind Of Change/Outside The Law 7" > vinyl single > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Outside The Law (LP - live) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Like An Arrow... (Through The Heart) > (CD) & (LP) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Time, Space & LLG (LP) & (CD) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Elegy (CD) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Night Air (CD) & (LP) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - River Run (CD 1994) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Chain Reaction(1999) > > Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move (CD 1996) > > Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move... Plus (bonus tracks & > diff. cover art) > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 21 08:13:33 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:13:33 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20080821194629.03d627c0@pacific.net.sg> Message-ID: oh thanks for all that, I am all messed up remembering, however, how will Christian get the coolest one if I buy them all up first? and are these also on the FnR releases?? http://home.clara.net/adawson/solo/dreams.html and how will he ever find elegy on wax??? On 8/21/08, Ian Jeffcock wrote: > > One other bit of info is that "Wind Of Change" is not on any of the Friends > and Relations CDs, > but can be found on "The Best of Indie Metal" CD, currently available on > eBay for as low as GBP 1.49 > definitely worth buying to complete your Huw CD collection. > > Just for the record, these are the 3 tracks on friends and relations: > (1) Outside The Law - A side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law > (2) Working Time - B side from 7" single Wind Of Change > (3) I See You - B side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law > > And there is a Huw gig currently up on Dime that I posted there, from the > same era as Outside The Law, > and probably better quality too, from Leadmill, Sheffield 22-Jan-1984. > > At 05:00 AM 8/20/2008 -0400, you wrote: > >> > i have yet to see Outside The Law by HLLG on CD. Does it exist? I have >> so far: >> > >> > >> > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Wind Of Change/Outside The Law 7" vinyl >> single >> > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Outside The Law (LP - live) >> > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Like An Arrow... (Through The Heart) >> (CD) & (LP) >> > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Time, Space & LLG (LP) & (CD) >> > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Elegy (CD) >> > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Night Air (CD) & (LP) >> > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - River Run (CD 1994) >> > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Chain Reaction(1999) >> > Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move (CD 1996) >> > Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move... Plus (bonus tracks & diff. >> cover art) >> > >> > Send instant messages to your online friends >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> > >> > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Aug 21 08:59:15 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:59:15 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20080821194629.03d627c0@pacific.net.sg> Message-ID: On 21 Aug 2008, at 06:54 , Ian Jeffcock wrote: > And there is a Huw gig currently up on Dime that I posted there, > from the same era as Outside The Law, > and probably better quality too ;) > from Leadmill, Sheffield 22-Jan-1984. I might try to check it out, though Dime started to drive me nuts. I downloaded and then seeded a few HW shows for _months_, but no one else ever seemed to leech! Actually, I'm not sure that I wasn't deleted from Dime for having a bad sharing ratio -- though not through any fault of my own! :/ Possibly I chose unpopular shows! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 21 08:15:47 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:15:47 +0000 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question Message-ID: AND I HAVE THE BEST OF INDIE METAL CD!!!!!! I even posted about it on THIS VERY LIST around 2004....... haha, bought at a food store in the trash section of DVD and CD stuff. It has Persian Risk and The Scrubs too........ c. ----- Original Message ---- From: Ian Jeffcock To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Thursday, 21 August, 2008 13:54:28 Subject: Re: HW: huw: outside the law! question One other bit of info is that "Wind Of Change" is not on any of the Friends and Relations CDs, but can be found on "The Best of Indie Metal" CD, currently available on eBay for as low as GBP 1.49 definitely worth buying to complete your Huw CD collection. Just for the record, these are the 3 tracks on friends and relations: (1) Outside The Law - A side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law (2) Working Time - B side from 7" single Wind Of Change (3) I See You - B side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law And there is a Huw gig currently up on Dime that I posted there, from the same era as Outside The Law, and probably better quality too, from Leadmill, Sheffield 22-Jan-1984. At 05:00 AM 8/20/2008 -0400, you wrote: > > i have yet to see Outside The Law by HLLG on CD. Does it exist? I have > so far: > > > > > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Wind Of Change/Outside The Law 7" > vinyl single > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Outside The Law (LP - live) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Like An Arrow... (Through The Heart) > (CD) & (LP) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Time, Space & LLG (LP) & (CD) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Elegy (CD) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Night Air (CD) & (LP) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - River Run (CD 1994) > > Lloyd-Langton Group (Hawkwind) - Chain Reaction(1999) > > Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move (CD 1996) > > Huw Lloyd-Langton (Hawkwind) - On The Move... Plus (bonus tracks & > diff. cover art) > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Aug 21 11:56:27 2008 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:56:27 +0100 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] Chance for a free copy of all of the new reissues etc In-Reply-To: <200808211100.m7LB0n2R028803@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike, its www.atomhenge.co.uk on the mail page iain > > So: how do we sign up for the atomhenge list? > > > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 21 12:19:44 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:19:44 +0000 Subject: HW: The Competition Message-ID: NOW, BOC-L riddle me this ARE MY GERANIUMS BULLET PROOF ??? Coffe and digestive biscuits, can never get enough of them. NEVER ENOUGH COMPETITIONS!!! Huw on Vinyl, Huw on CD. Oh yeah, HUW IS COOL, so so cool like an ice cream cone, like a Tombstone. Chr. NP: Rolling Stones "Bridges To Babylon" (kidding) ObCD: The Deep Freeze Mice "Live In Switzerland" (a MUST HEAR band!) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From mpainter at SOUNDOUT.CO.UK Thu Aug 21 13:45:28 2008 From: mpainter at SOUNDOUT.CO.UK (Mark Painter) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:45:28 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 20 Aug 2008 to 21 Aug 2008 (#2008-199) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > All people who are registered on the Atomhenge mailing list by next > wednesday will be eligible and it will be done as a "blind stab" at Could someone point me to where I can join that mailing list, or at leadt who's mailinglist it is! Thanks folks.. Mark From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Thu Aug 21 18:34:51 2008 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (mark) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:34:51 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 20 Aug 2008 to 21 Aug 2008 (#2008-199) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mark Painter wrote: Could someone point me to where I can join that mailing list, or at leadt who's mailinglist it is! Thanks folks.. Mark Hey www.atomhenge.com Look for mailing list and follow the instructions. You have to respond to the email that you receive. Mark From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 21 22:20:15 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:20:15 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20080821194629.03d627c0@pacific.net.sg> Message-ID: On 8/21/08, Ian Jeffcock wrote: > > Just for the record, these are the 3 tracks on friends and relations: > (1) Outside The Law - A side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law > (2) Working Time - B side from 7" single Wind Of Change > (3) I See You - B side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law > > *wait a minute!! the version of "outside the law" that we have on FnR is > the strong version actually taken from the _seperate_ "Outside The Law" 45, > of which Wind Of Change would be the B-side that Christian is blooming about > owning on CD, right??, and so I am asking and guessing that the only other > things as yet unreleased are the 2 tracks "Dreams" and "It's On Me" from > the 12" I mentioned.....?* ** From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 21 22:45:01 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:45:01 -0500 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808211920y5af2b454vd3f91f8a8435b3cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: *correction to myself here, the single is "Wind Of Change" (what does Marion think of him wearing that flashy stuff), with "Outside The Law" being the B-side, however I just had them backwards, the O.T.L is unconneted to the flicknife LP of the same name.....(right?)* On 8/21/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 8/21/08, Ian Jeffcock wrote: >> >> Just for the record, these are the 3 tracks on friends and relations: >> (1) Outside The Law - A side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law >> (2) Working Time - B side from 7" single Wind Of Change >> (3) I See You - B side from the 7" single free with Outside The Law >> >> *wait a minute!! the version of "outside the law" that we have on FnR is >> the strong version actually taken from the _seperate_ "Outside The Law" 45, >> of which Wind Of Change would be the B-side that Christian is blooming about >> owning on CD, right??, and so I am asking and guessing that the only other >> things as yet unreleased are the 2 tracks "Dreams" and "It's On Me" from >> the 12" I mentioned.....?* > > > ** > > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 02:25:31 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:25:31 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: HEADS UP, A DOOR HAS BEEN OPENED INTO THE HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE KOLLEKTOR CLUB HERE IS A CHANCE FOR A REGULAR WORKING CLASS WEEKEND HAWKWIND HOBBYIST TO TURN INTO SUPERMAN LITERALLY OVER NIGHT I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE WHOM HAVE SUFFERED MUCH KNASHING OF TEETH SINCE i HAD TO WHIP OUT MY SUB MACHINE GUN LAST TIME SO THIS IS PROOF OF MY HEART ON DISPLAY TO ALL OUR COMFY LITTLE FLOCK (NOT COMMERCIALIZED LIKE THE CATTLE PEN FORUM) THIS IS THE SACRED COLLECTION CAPPER, AND WHILE MAYBE NOT THE ABSOLUTE RAREST IN THE WORLD, IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE BECAUSE OF THIS FACT IF MY MOTHER WAS STILL HERE YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHANCE AS i WOULD PAY WHATEVER IT TOOK AND SNATCH IT AWAY WITH THE ONE I ALREADY HAVE I NOTICE THIS SELLER IS IN FRANCE AND IS CALLING IT A PROMO SO i THINK IT IS SAFE TO PROCLAIM IT OFFICALLY AS A PROMO NOW AND FURTHER, BECAUSE i LOVE YOU, THIS IS GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY A LOT LOT......SOME OF YOU WILL NEED ACCESS TO YOUR PARENTS RETIREMENT FUNDS IF YOU WANT IT AND EXPECT TO HAVE A REAL CHANCE OF PLUCKING THE JEWEL IT IS M- CONDITION WHICH MEANS YOU CAN HEAR THE MOANS AS IT IS VIEWED http://cgi.ebay.com/HAWKWIND-Hassan-I-Sahba-PROMO-FRENCH-ONLY-CHARISMA-7_W0QQitemZ350091011067QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350091011067&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 08:03:14 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:03:14 -0700 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: So, is the version of Hassan I Sabha anything different than what have readily available, or is it just the fact that it's a rare pressing that makes it so sought after? Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 2:28 am Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET HEADS UP, A DOOR HAS BEEN OPENED INTO THE HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE KOLLEKTOR CLUB HERE IS A CHANCE FOR A REGULAR WORKING CLASS WEEKEND HAWKWIND HOBBYIST TO TURN INTO SUPERMAN LITERALLY OVER NIGHT I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE WHOM HAVE SUFFERED MUCH KNASHING OF TEETH SINCE i HAD TO WHIP OUT MY SUB MACHINE GUN LAST TIME SO THIS IS PROOF OF MY HEART ON DISPLAY TO ALL OUR COMFY LITTLE FLOCK (NOT COMMERCIALIZED LIKE THE CATTLE PEN FORUM) THIS IS THE SACRED COLLECTION CAPPER, AND WHILE MAYBE NOT THE ABSOLUTE RAREST IN THE WORLD, IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE BECAUSE OF THIS FACT IF MY MOTHER WAS STILL HERE YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHANCE AS i WOULD PAY WHATEVER IT TOOK AND SNATCH IT AWAY WITH THE ONE I ALREADY HAVE I NOTICE THIS SELLER IS IN FRANCE AND IS CALLING IT A PROMO SO i THINK IT IS SAFE TO PROCLAIM IT OFFICALLY AS A PROMO NOW AND FURTHER, BECAUSE i LOVE YOU, THIS IS GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY A LOT LOT......SOME OF YOU WILL NEED ACCESS TO YOUR PARENTS RETIREMENT FUNDS IF YOU WANT IT AND EXPECT TO HAVE A REAL CHANCE OF PLUCKING THE JEWEL IT IS M- CONDITION WHICH MEANS YOU CAN HEAR THE MOANS AS IT IS VIEWED http://cgi.ebay.com/HAWKWIND-Hassan-I-Sahba-PROMO-FRENCH-ONLY-CHARISMA-7_W0QQitemZ350091011067QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350091011067&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 From ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG Fri Aug 22 08:06:09 2008 From: ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG (Ian Jeffcock) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:06:09 +0800 Subject: HW: huw: outside the law! question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: unfortunately only the flicknife stuff made it on to the FnR releases I'm never going to get to hear "dreams that fade away" and "its on me" again because my vinyl is tucked up in an atic 6000 miles away... what on earth was the ultra noise label anyway? I wonder if anyone on the list could ask Huw nicely if he will consider putting MP3s of them on his site At 05:00 AM 8/22/2008 -0400, you wrote: >oh thanks for all that, I am all messed up remembering, however, how will >Christian get the coolest one if I buy them all up first? and are these also >on the FnR releases?? >http://home.clara.net/adawson/solo/dreams.html >and how will he ever find elegy on wax??? From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 08:47:03 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:47:03 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3302236994.55524415@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: none of the Kollektors who make it that high up the mountain ever _actually_ _play_ their kollektions....you know that Steve.... but Ultra Noise is my business so no, according to an informant there is nothing there for music-only people On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > So, is the version of Hassan I Sabha anything different than what have > readily available, or is it just the fact that it's a rare pressing that > makes it so sought after? > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 2:28 am > Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one > man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > HEADS UP, A DOOR HAS BEEN OPENED INTO THE HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE KOLLEKTOR CLUB > HERE IS A CHANCE FOR A REGULAR WORKING CLASS WEEKEND HAWKWIND HOBBYIST TO > TURN INTO SUPERMAN LITERALLY OVER NIGHT > I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE WHOM HAVE SUFFERED MUCH KNASHING OF TEETH SINCE i > HAD TO WHIP OUT MY SUB MACHINE GUN LAST TIME SO THIS IS PROOF OF MY HEART ON > DISPLAY TO ALL OUR COMFY LITTLE FLOCK (NOT COMMERCIALIZED LIKE THE CATTLE > PEN FORUM) > THIS IS THE SACRED COLLECTION CAPPER, AND WHILE MAYBE NOT THE ABSOLUTE > RAREST IN THE WORLD, IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE BECAUSE OF THIS FACT > IF MY MOTHER WAS STILL HERE YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHANCE AS i WOULD PAY > WHATEVER IT TOOK AND SNATCH IT AWAY WITH THE ONE I ALREADY HAVE > I NOTICE THIS SELLER IS IN FRANCE AND IS CALLING IT A PROMO SO i THINK IT > IS SAFE TO PROCLAIM IT OFFICALLY AS A PROMO NOW > AND FURTHER, BECAUSE i LOVE YOU, THIS IS GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY A > LOT LOT......SOME OF YOU WILL NEED ACCESS TO YOUR PARENTS RETIREMENT FUNDS > IF YOU WANT IT AND EXPECT TO HAVE A REAL CHANCE OF PLUCKING THE JEWEL IT IS > M- CONDITION WHICH MEANS YOU CAN HEAR THE MOANS AS IT IS VIEWED > http://cgi.ebay.com/HAWKWIND-Hassan-I-Sahba-PROMO-FRENCH-ONLY-CHARISMA-7_W0QQitemZ350091011067QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350091011067&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 22 09:41:31 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:41:31 +0100 Subject: Dave's political ambitions? Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 10:27:39 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:27:39 -0700 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: I'm not *quite* music-only, I feel the Kollektor itch too, but to me its more stuff about the band itself. Like that synth they put up for sale recently that I think was Alan's? I can't even play and yet that thing made me go into a shark-like Kollektor blood frenzy because of the association between that and their live shows. For example if they had come out and said "this is the synth you can hear on Zarozinia in Live Chronicles," I probably would have been trying to sign over my house to them, even as my wife had me dragged off and committed to a mental institution. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 8:51 am Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET none of the Kollektors who make it that high up the mountain ever _actually_ _play_ their kollektions....you know that Steve.... but Ultra Noise is my business so no, according to an informant there is nothing there for music-only people On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > So, is the version of Hassan I Sabha anything different than what have readily available, or is it just the fact that it's a rare pressing that makes it so sought after? > Steve > -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 2:28 am Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > HEADS UP, A DOOR HAS BEEN OPENED INTO THE HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE KOLLEKTOR CLUB HERE IS A CHANCE FOR A REGULAR WORKING CLASS WEEKEND HAWKWIND HOBBYIST TO TURN INTO SUPERMAN LITERALLY OVER NIGHT I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE WHOM HAVE SUFFERED MUCH KNASHING OF TEETH SINCE i HAD TO WHIP OUT MY SUB MACHINE GUN LAST TIME SO THIS IS PROOF OF MY HEART ON DISPLAY TO ALL OUR COMFY LITTLE FLOCK (NOT COMMERCIALIZED LIKE THE CATTLE PEN FORUM) THIS IS THE SACRED COLLECTION CAPPER, AND WHILE MAYBE NOT THE ABSOLUTE RAREST IN THE WORLD, IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE BECAUSE OF THIS FACT IF MY MOTHER WAS STILL HERE YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHANCE AS i WOULD PAY WHATEVER IT TOOK AND SNATCH IT AWAY WITH THE ONE I ALREADY HAVE I NOTICE THIS SELLER IS IN FRANCE AND IS CALLING IT A PROMO SO i THINK IT IS SAFE TO PROCLAIM IT OFFICALLY AS A PROMO NOW AND FURTHER, BECAUSE i LOVE YOU, THIS IS GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY A LOT LOT......SOME OF YOU WILL NEED ACCESS TO YOUR PARENTS RETIREMENT FUNDS IF YOU WANT IT AND EXPECT TO HAVE A REAL CHANCE OF PLUCKING THE JEWEL IT IS M- CONDITION WHICH MEANS YOU CAN HEAR THE MOANS AS IT IS VIEWED http://cgi.ebay.com/HAWKWIND-Hassan-I-Sahba-PROMO-FRENCH-ONLY-CHARISMA-7_W0QQitemZ350091011067QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350091011067&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 10:40:19 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:40:19 -0500 Subject: Dave's political ambitions? In-Reply-To: <200808221341.m7MDfVgj009914@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: lol, imho it just needed to do a quick cut to the band on stage in the 70's or something strobes in full bloom as I sit wondering if I have the guts to go on craigs list for a turntable handout, I'm comparing doremi's and I am wondering why on this israel version they saw the need to list tracks thus: brainstorm (turner), space (dave brock) down through the night (dave brock) one change(del dettmar) lord of light (dave brock) (then oddly, only this track in lighter font) Time We Left (dave brock) The Watcher (I.F.Kilmister what to many could appear as a USA low-budget clone, is in fact, not On 8/22/08, M Holmes wrote: > > Looks like the yank hawkfans have been active: > > http://tinyurl.com/5au5p3 > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 10:47:49 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:47:49 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3302245659.55960917@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: and hopefully the private mail I sent you revealed that you in fact caught me off guard, and that was an off-the-cuff, scot-like reply, when in fact I look at cd's like microwaved potatoes and cell-phones- mostly cute trading card type things that I will certainly play but I like serving up a good heaping "hawkwind meal", so just give me a rega-3 replacement and I'll play every piece of vinyl I ever get over and over again (I'll be needing japanese inners too, however)......but if I never make it the face was as good as the snatch On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > I'm not *quite* music-only, I feel the Kollektor itch too, but to me its > more stuff about the band itself. Like that synth they put up for sale > recently that I think was Alan's? I can't even play and yet that thing made > me go into a shark-like Kollektor blood frenzy because of the > association between that and their live shows. > > For example if they had come out and said "this is the synth you can hear > on Zarozinia in Live Chronicles," I probably would have been trying to sign > over my house to them, even as my wife had me dragged off and committed to a > mental institution. :) > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 8:51 am > Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one > man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > none of the Kollektors who make it that high up the mountain ever > _actually_ > _play_ their kollektions....you know that Steve.... > but Ultra Noise is my business so no, according to an informant there is > nothing there for music-only people > > > On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > > So, is the version of Hassan I Sabha anything different than what have > readily available, or is it just the fact that it's a rare pressing that > makes it so sought after? > > > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 2:28 am > Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one > man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > HEADS UP, A DOOR HAS BEEN OPENED INTO THE HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE KOLLEKTOR CLUB > HERE IS A CHANCE FOR A REGULAR WORKING CLASS WEEKEND HAWKWIND HOBBYIST TO > TURN INTO SUPERMAN LITERALLY OVER NIGHT > I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE WHOM HAVE SUFFERED MUCH KNASHING OF TEETH SINCE i > HAD TO WHIP OUT MY SUB MACHINE GUN LAST TIME SO THIS IS PROOF OF MY HEART > ON > DISPLAY TO ALL OUR COMFY LITTLE FLOCK (NOT COMMERCIALIZED LIKE THE CATTLE > PEN FORUM) > THIS IS THE SACRED COLLECTION CAPPER, AND WHILE MAYBE NOT THE ABSOLUTE > RAREST IN THE WORLD, IT IS CONSIDERED TO BE BECAUSE OF THIS FACT > IF MY MOTHER WAS STILL HERE YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHANCE AS i WOULD PAY > WHATEVER IT TOOK AND SNATCH IT AWAY WITH THE ONE I ALREADY HAVE > I NOTICE THIS SELLER IS IN FRANCE AND IS CALLING IT A PROMO SO i THINK IT > IS SAFE TO PROCLAIM IT OFFICALLY AS A PROMO NOW > AND FURTHER, BECAUSE i LOVE YOU, THIS IS GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY A > LOT LOT......SOME OF YOU WILL NEED ACCESS TO YOUR PARENTS RETIREMENT FUNDS > IF YOU WANT IT AND EXPECT TO HAVE A REAL CHANCE OF PLUCKING THE JEWEL IT IS > M- CONDITION WHICH MEANS YOU CAN HEAR THE MOANS AS IT IS VIEWED > > http://cgi.ebay.com/HAWKWIND-Hassan-I-Sahba-PROMO-FRENCH-ONLY-CHARISMA-7_W0QQitemZ350091011067QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350091011067&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 > From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 11:04:01 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:04:01 -0700 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: If you're talking about the qualitative differences between cd and vinyl, I'm totally with you - I miss everything about vinyl except the maintenance - trying to get that last freaking speck of dust to get rid off the pop it was causing in the middle of a song used to make me nuts. But I miss the warmth of sound, the packaging/artwork... Examining the album sleeve as the record played was part of the experience - CD "liner notes" have never cut it... Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 10:51 am Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET and hopefully the private mail I sent you revealed that you in fact caught me off guard, and that was an off-the-cuff, scot-like reply, when in fact I look at cd's like microwaved potatoes and cell-phones- mostly cute trading card type things that I will certainly play but I like serving up a good heaping "hawkwind meal", so just give me a rega-3 replacement and I'll play every piece of vinyl I ever get over and over again (I'll be needing japanese inners too, however)......but if I never make it the face was as good as the snatch On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > I'm not *quite* music-only, I feel the Kollektor itch too, but to me its more stuff about the band itself. Like that synth they put up for sale recently that I think was Alan's? I can't even play and yet that thing made me go into a shark-like Kollektor blood frenzy because of the association between that and their live shows. > For example if they had come out and said "this is the synth you can hear on Zarozinia in Live Chronicles," I probably would have been trying to sign over my house to them, even as my wife had me dragged off and committed to a mental institution. :) > Steve > -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 8:51 am Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > none of the Kollektors who make it that high up the mountain ever _actually_ _play_ their kollektions....you know that Steve.... but Ultra Noise is my business so no, according to an informant there is nothing there for music-only people > On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > So, is the version of Hassan I Sabha anything different than what have readily available, or is it just the fact that it's a rare pressing that makes it so sought after? > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 2:28 am Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > HEADS UP, A DOOR HAS BEEN OPENED INTO THE HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE KOLLEKTOR CLUB HERE IS A CHANCE FOR From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 11:43:25 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:43:25 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3302247841.56046120@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: steve, I'm actually trying to catch my daily few minutes of nightmares that no human, even murderers should ever know but I must send FoFP a post (again) I can solve all that for you, I unlocked the secrets (however single pops come back from such things as exclaiming something to your friend and you didn't notice that microscopic projectile spittle),,,,,,no problem though.......more on this later also, I love CD sound and covenience, I do for sure, at this point I am not really arguing sound superiority, just fun.... On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > If you're talking about the qualitative differences between cd and vinyl, > I'm totally with you - I miss everything about vinyl except the maintenance > - trying to get that last freaking speck of dust to get rid off the pop it > was causing in the middle of a song used to make me nuts. But I miss the > warmth of sound, the packaging/artwork... Examining the album sleeve as the > record played was part of the experience - CD "liner notes" have never cut > it... > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 10:51 am > Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one > man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > and hopefully the private mail I sent you revealed that you in fact caught > me off guard, and that was an off-the-cuff, scot-like reply, when in fact I > look at cd's like microwaved potatoes and cell-phones- mostly cute trading > card type things that I will certainly play but I like serving up a good > heaping "hawkwind meal", so just give me a rega-3 replacement and I'll play > every piece of vinyl I ever get over and over again (I'll be needing > japanese inners too, however)......but if I never make it the face was as > good as the snatch > > On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > > I'm not *quite* music-only, I feel the Kollektor itch too, but to me its > more stuff about the band itself. Like that synth they put up for sale > recently that I think was Alan's? I can't even play and yet that thing > made > me go into a shark-like Kollektor blood frenzy because of the > association between that and their live shows. > > > For example if they had come out and said "this is the synth you can > hear > on Zarozinia in Live Chronicles," I probably would have been trying to sign > over my house to them, even as my wife had me dragged off and committed to > a > mental institution. :) > > > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 8:51 am > Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one > man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > none of the Kollektors who make it that high up the mountain ever > _actually_ > _play_ their kollektions....you know that Steve.... > but Ultra Noise is my business so no, according to an informant there is > nothing there for music-only people > > > > On 8/22/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > > > So, is the version of Hassan I Sabha anything different than what have > readily available, or is it just the fact that it's a rare pressing that > makes it so sought after? > > > > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 2:28 am > Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one > man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > > > HEADS UP, A DOOR HAS BEEN OPENED INTO THE HIGHLY EXCLUSIVE KOLLEKTOR > CLUB > HERE IS A CHANCE FOR > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 11:48:33 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:48:33 -0500 Subject: Dave's political ambitions? In-Reply-To: <200808221341.m7MDfVgj009914@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 8/22/08, M Holmes wrote: > > Looks like the yank hawkfans have been active: > http://tinyurl.com/5au5p3 > > Yes typical US corn-fed beefbrains for sure, that is a much too public > office for Dave and he wouldn't have it for a minute, Lemmy would enjoy such > a seat much more, however I do wonder if Dave could be trusted atop Shadow > and the free energy....... but speaking of beef I've decided to start an honest living by opening the premiere restaurant specialing in mutilated cattle steaks, I figured out why the carcasses are chucked back and you wouldn't believe the benifits here...... (off now, all clear, bye) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 22 12:25:59 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:25:59 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3302247841.56046120@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 22 Aug 2008, at 10:04 , Steve Swann wrote: > If you're talking about the qualitative differences between cd and > vinyl, I'm totally with you - I miss everything about vinyl except > the maintenance - trying to get that last freaking speck of dust to > get rid off the pop it was causing in the middle of a song used to > make me nuts. But I miss the warmth of sound, the packaging/ > artwork... Examining the album sleeve as the record played was part > of the experience - CD "liner notes" have never cut it... I'm a total heretic, having moved ever closer to the completely digital experience! ;) I now just rip my CDs losslessly to my iTunes libaray, and then store the original CD away. When possible, I buy lossless FLAC files for download and skip the CD entirely (though I refuse to buy lossy digital formats); the delivery is faster (and, where I am, more likely to arrive! ;)). Everything sits on one giant hard disk and gets backed up to a second giant hard disk. I think I'll shortly need to move up from the current 750 GB disks to 1 TB disks, though! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 14:47:44 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:47:44 -0700 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: Oh, just because I whine about the loss of the grace and beauty of the LP format doesn't mean that I've actually bothered to fix my record player for the past 5 years.... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 12:36 pm Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 22 Aug 2008, at 10:04 , Steve Swann wrote: If you're talking about the qualitative differences between cd and vinyl, I'm totally with you - I miss everything about vinyl except the maintenance - trying to get that last freaking speck of dust to get rid off the pop it was causing in the middle of a song used to make me nuts. But I miss the warmth of sound, the packaging/ artwork... Examining the album sleeve as the record played was part of the experience - CD "liner notes" have never cut it... I'm a total heretic, having moved ever closer to the completely digital experience! ;) I now just rip my CDs losslessly to my iTunes libaray, and then store the original CD away. When possible, I buy lossless FLAC files for download and skip the CD entirely (though I refuse to buy lossy digital formats); the delivery is faster (and, where I am, more likely to arrive! ;)). Everything sits on one giant hard disk and gets backed up to a second giant hard disk. I think I'll shortly need to move up from the current 750 GB disks to 1 TB disks, though! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 22 15:17:26 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:17:26 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3302261264.56449866@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ah, well, people probably complained that wax cylinders totally ruined the musical experience to which they had been accustomed when those came on to the scene as well ..... Worse than Dylan going electric! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 22 15:42:21 2008 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:42:21 EDT Subject: Dave's political ambitions? Message-ID: Aye, that it does laddie :-) "We cannae give it any more Captain. She'll blow the crystals." "Captain?"......."Captain?" Blow Crystals............ Check Steve. In a message dated 22/08/2008 14:42:36 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: Looks like the yank hawkfans have been active: http://tinyurl.com/5au5p3 From owen.01 at GMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 16:15:14 2008 From: owen.01 at GMAIL.COM (Owen O'Neill) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:15:14 -0400 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <828110E9-F649-46AC-824B-99ADA5F172C7@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Ha, this dude in Germany has a collection of cylinders that he recorded and put on archive.org. My fav is called "a ragtime medley" by Vess Ossman c. 1898 and there's a much more recent 1916 one called Under the Double Eagle. I might have use these to back up a cartoon where the original Bonzo Dog Band track is owned by EMI..I heard of some kind of recording that just used steel wire, must've been very efficient but prob. demagnetized easily. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Ah, well, people probably complained that wax cylinders totally ruined the > musical experience to which they had been accustomed when those came on to > the scene as well ..... Worse than Dylan going electric! ;) > > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > -- .:.;:'?;???:;:,:;';,,';':;.:,:;:;',,':;.';:?;;';-,,`?, From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Aug 22 17:26:49 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:26:49 -0400 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <098DA0A2-0BB7-414B-ADCF-1BA331E4F561@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 22 Aug 2008, at 12:25 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 22 Aug 2008, at 10:04 , Steve Swann wrote: >> If you're talking about the qualitative differences between cd and >> vinyl, I'm totally with you - I miss everything about vinyl except >> the maintenance - trying to get that last freaking speck of dust to >> get rid off the pop it was causing in the middle of a song used to >> make me nuts. But I miss the warmth of sound, the packaging/ >> artwork... Examining the album sleeve as the record played was part >> of the experience - CD "liner notes" have never cut it... > > > > I'm a total heretic, having moved ever closer to the completely > digital experience! ;) I now just rip my CDs losslessly to my > iTunes libaray, and then store the original CD away. When possible, > I buy lossless FLAC files for download and skip the CD entirely > (though I refuse to buy lossy digital formats); the delivery is > faster (and, where I am, more likely to arrive! ;)). Everything > sits on one giant hard disk and gets backed up to a second giant > hard disk. I think I'll shortly need to move up from the current > 750 GB disks to 1 TB disks, though! :) Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least from different batches if the same model? There's an increased chance of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate for all your eggs to be lost in one go... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Aug 22 17:52:34 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:52:34 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <4A53F207-315F-4396-9371-6FAF7DF95B9F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 22 Aug 2008, at 16:26 , Paul Mather wrote: > Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least > from different batches if the same model? There's an increased > chance of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate > for all your eggs to be lost in one go... Same manufacturer, I think, but different models and all. Purchased in different countries, I think! I tend to keep the backup drive disconnected and powered down except when actually doing a periodic backup. Good points, though! You can never have too much redundancy. (I've always got the CDs for most things, of course, though re- ripping them would be pain! But of course the CDs are subject to the evil CD rot, vinyl gets scratched, tapes wear thin or get magnetized ... and a house fire would really screw it all! ;)) Cheer,s Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 22 19:16:15 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:16:15 +0100 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808162011vb17e845m21a6df23726cf34c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:11:46PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > On 8/16/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > np: Psychic TV/PTV3 "hell is invisible, > > yes rawk lyrics rule......... > I guess I.E.M. would just be totally lost on you then, I'd weep for you, but > > weeping in my case is totally useless...... I *wish* he'd do more IEM stuff. A lot of the stuff that he is doing (I see No Man are touring!) might be like that but the mystique and the declaration of intent of producing under that name is important too. And several parts of _Arcadia Son_ were genuinely brilliant. I couldn't even really tell you why I think so. Yours, Jon ObLP: Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush - _Tales of the Unexpected_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 22 19:33:35 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:33:35 +0000 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon Message-ID: NP: Hawkwind "Warrior on the Edge of Time" (rock fever ed what is IEM? NP: Hawkwind "Warrior on the Edge of Time" (rock fever ed.) ----- Original Message ---- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, 23 August, 2008 1:16:15 Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:11:46PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > On 8/16/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > np: Psychic TV/PTV3 "hell is invisible, > > yes rawk lyrics rule......... > I guess I.E.M. would just be totally lost on you then, I'd weep for you, but > > weeping in my case is totally useless...... I *wish* he'd do more IEM stuff. A lot of the stuff that he is doing (I see No Man are touring!) might be like that but the mystique and the declaration of intent of producing under that name is important too. And several parts of _Arcadia Son_ were genuinely brilliant. I couldn't even really tell you why I think so. Yours, Jon ObLP: Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush - _Tales of the Unexpected_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 23 03:36:03 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:36:03 -0500 Subject: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon In-Reply-To: <582764.91812.qm@web23002.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: another favor I did you it's steven wilson's output in krautrok mode (what _is_ krautrock?), entitled "Incredible Expanding Mindfuck" now send me a copy of the Indie Metal CD for that knowledge, you've actually gotten a hell of a deal, and is that counterfeit artist killer combobulator sorted out yet??? On 8/22/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > NP: Hawkwind "Warrior on the Edge of Time" (rock fever ed > what is IEM? > > NP: Hawkwind "Warrior on the Edge of Time" (rock fever ed.) > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jonathan Jarrett > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Saturday, 23 August, 2008 1:16:15 > Subject: Re: (OFF) amp. embalmer/amon duul fool moon > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:11:46PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > On 8/16/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > np: Psychic TV/PTV3 "hell is invisible, > > > yes rawk lyrics rule......... > > I guess I.E.M. would just be totally lost on you then, I'd weep for you, > but > > > weeping in my case is totally useless...... > > I *wish* he'd do more IEM stuff. A lot of the stuff that he is > doing (I see No Man are touring!) might be like that but the mystique > and the declaration of intent of producing under that name is important > too. And several parts of _Arcadia Son_ were genuinely brilliant. I > couldn't even really tell you why I think so. Yours, > Jon > > ObLP: Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush - _Tales of the Unexpected_ > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Aug 23 08:28:04 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:28:04 -0400 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <4A53F207-315F-4396-9371-6FAF7DF95B9F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: I agree, try to clean an album blind, some time, especially living with a cat. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Paul Mather Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:27 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ On 22 Aug 2008, at 12:25 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 22 Aug 2008, at 10:04 , Steve Swann wrote: >> If you're talking about the qualitative differences between cd and >> vinyl, I'm totally with you - I miss everything about vinyl except >> the maintenance - trying to get that last freaking speck of dust to >> get rid off the pop it was causing in the middle of a song used to >> make me nuts. But I miss the warmth of sound, the packaging/ >> artwork... Examining the album sleeve as the record played was part >> of the experience - CD "liner notes" have never cut it... > > > > I'm a total heretic, having moved ever closer to the completely > digital experience! ;) I now just rip my CDs losslessly to my > iTunes libaray, and then store the original CD away. When possible, > I buy lossless FLAC files for download and skip the CD entirely > (though I refuse to buy lossy digital formats); the delivery is > faster (and, where I am, more likely to arrive! ;)). Everything > sits on one giant hard disk and gets backed up to a second giant > hard disk. I think I'll shortly need to move up from the current > 750 GB disks to 1 TB disks, though! :) Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least from different batches if the same model? There's an increased chance of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate for all your eggs to be lost in one go... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Aug 23 08:28:03 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:28:03 -0400 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Carl, for the info. I only had 1 drive, that's why I went down, but I still don't know how to do back up, Chris was going to show me all that. Mary -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Carl Edlund Anderson Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:53 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ On 22 Aug 2008, at 16:26 , Paul Mather wrote: > Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least > from different batches if the same model? There's an increased > chance of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate > for all your eggs to be lost in one go... Same manufacturer, I think, but different models and all. Purchased in different countries, I think! I tend to keep the backup drive disconnected and powered down except when actually doing a periodic backup. Good points, though! You can never have too much redundancy. (I've always got the CDs for most things, of course, though re- ripping them would be pain! But of course the CDs are subject to the evil CD rot, vinyl gets scratched, tapes wear thin or get magnetized ... and a house fire would really screw it all! ;)) Cheer,s Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Aug 23 19:18:13 2008 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:18:13 +0100 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 07:54:33AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > Purely out of curiosity, I now find myself wondering what you would > pick as their worst album and how many stand between it and TMTYL? :) Well, there's a question. I think their worst, for me, is unquestionably _Zones_, a hodge-podge of sub-par live material redeemed from scratched plastic monotony only by a few moments of tension, and studio offerings that should never have been committed to tape (`Dangerous Visions', I'm looking at you). I also don't reckon IitBotFtbD very much, I mean it's not bad but it's not exciting at all, to me at least. IYA has some excellent stuff on it but is marred by badly-edited Rizz and is perhaps the most schizophrenically-split of all HW albums, Dave on one side and a band on the other and when the twain meet it's got Rizz all over it (I was much happier with him on _Hawkwind 1997_). _Out and Intake_ is like _Zones_ only without the extremes and with more anonymous production. And I like _Spacebrock_ for what it is, viz a Dave solo album, but TMYTL is clearly better. Then we get down into the fine print. I'd have trouble deciding between TMYTL and any of _Sonic Attack_, flawed though it be, _Church of Hawkwind_ or _Space Bandits_. For some reason _Church_ is a very nice unit, even though perhaps it's not electrically exciting; on the other hand it's questionable what one loses off _Space Bandits_ if one can still own _California Brainstorm_. So I guess in a pinch I'd keep _Space Bandits_ and _Church_ in the ranks above and drop _Sonic Attack_, some of which I like but some of which is really tedious, below. All the other core albums I'd probably take over TMYTL, except that if I was allowed to keep _Love in Space_ I'd keep TMYTL rather than _Alien4_ (but if we were only ranking studio albums _Alien4_ would beat it), and actually _Yule Ritual_, good though it is, doesn't really do anything that some other live album somewhere doesn't do better. So, at that rate, I guess that currently TMYTL is 9th from the bottom, out of what, 34 core albums? Not so great perhaps, maybe you were right to question my commitment to it, but I'm still quite pleased by it as an album. I mean, most of the ones I've ranked below it I like in some way, it's really only _Zones_ and IYA I find genuinely unsatisfactory and even they have things on that still make me play them. O&I is pretty pointless too, basically I don't like the bag-of- bits approach to an album, TiHDnP excepted because it's all great stuff. Even these days, annoyed and disappointed, I remain a fan, you know. Yours, Jon ObMP3: Amon Tobin - `Chomp Samba' -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 23 19:56:57 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:56:57 -0500 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: <20080823231813.GE21423@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Jon, I absolutely love Dangerous Vision!!! I Fucking love it!!! of course, arguments about my sanity could easily be made against me and I'd just be complimented.........I won't go any further because this is your territory and I respect everyone's station but I will butt right out by saying....Zones comes as close to the brown note (I think) as Mary's gonna get with the whistle (which I have always loved from day one), or at least the psycoacoocoostiks, just ask her how she's affected.... (agreed the rest of the album has always been a bit lacklustre but I still haven't peeled off either of my Japanese copy's...) On 8/23/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 07:54:33AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > > Purely out of curiosity, I now find myself wondering what you would > > pick as their worst album and how many stand between it and TMTYL? :) > > Well, there's a question. I think their worst, for me, is > unquestionably _Zones_, a hodge-podge of sub-par live material redeemed > from scratched plastic monotony only by a few moments of tension, and > studio offerings that should never have been committed to tape > (`Dangerous Visions', I'm looking at you). I also don't reckon > IitBotFtbD very much, I mean it's not bad but it's not exciting at all, > to me at least. IYA has some excellent stuff on it but is marred by > badly-edited Rizz and is perhaps the most schizophrenically-split of all > HW albums, Dave on one side and a band on the other and when the twain > meet it's got Rizz all over it (I was much happier with him on _Hawkwind > 1997_). _Out and Intake_ is like _Zones_ only without the extremes > and with more anonymous production. And I like _Spacebrock_ for what it > is, viz a Dave solo album, but TMYTL is clearly better. Then we get down > into the fine print. I'd have trouble deciding between TMYTL and any of > _Sonic Attack_, flawed though it be, _Church of Hawkwind_ or _Space > Bandits_. For some reason _Church_ is a very nice unit, even though > perhaps it's not electrically exciting; on the other hand it's > questionable what one loses off _Space Bandits_ if one can still own > _California Brainstorm_. So I guess in a pinch I'd keep _Space > Bandits_ and _Church_ in the ranks above and drop _Sonic Attack_, > some of which I like but some of which is really tedious, below. All the > other core albums I'd probably take over TMYTL, except that if I was > allowed to keep _Love in Space_ I'd keep TMYTL rather than _Alien4_ (but > if we were only ranking studio albums _Alien4_ would beat it), and > actually _Yule Ritual_, good though it is, doesn't really do anything > that some other live album somewhere doesn't do better. > > So, at that rate, I guess that currently TMYTL is 9th from the > bottom, out of what, 34 core albums? Not so great perhaps, maybe you > were right to question my commitment to it, but I'm still quite pleased > by it as an album. I mean, most of the ones I've ranked below it I like > in some way, it's really only _Zones_ and IYA I find genuinely > unsatisfactory and even they have things on that still make me play > them. O&I is pretty pointless too, basically I don't like the bag-of- > bits approach to an album, TiHDnP excepted because it's all great stuff. > Even these days, annoyed and disappointed, I remain a fan, you know. > Yours, > Jon > > ObMP3: Amon Tobin - `Chomp Samba' > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 23 19:58:56 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:58:56 -0500 Subject: HW Knights of Space In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808231656m3a99b786rc75ceda01817b6b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: wait a minute- I only have the promo and I'll swap it for a mint stock one any takers?? it's flawless, of course and I would expect same.,.,,in fact just vinyl could be swapped, I think??? On 8/23/08, mike coleman wrote: > > Jon, I absolutely love Dangerous Vision!!! I Fucking love it!!! of > course, arguments about my sanity could easily be made against me and I'd > just be complimented.........I won't go any further because this is your > territory and I respect everyone's station but I will butt right out by > saying....Zones comes as close to the brown note (I think) as Mary's gonna > get with the whistle (which I have always loved from day one), or at least > the psycoacoocoostiks, just ask her how she's affected.... > (agreed the rest of the album has always been a bit lacklustre but I still > haven't peeled off either of my Japanese copy's...) > On 8/23/08, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 07:54:33AM -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: >> > Purely out of curiosity, I now find myself wondering what you would >> > pick as their worst album and how many stand between it and TMTYL? :) >> >> Well, there's a question. I think their worst, for me, is >> unquestionably _Zones_, a hodge-podge of sub-par live material redeemed >> from scratched plastic monotony only by a few moments of tension, and >> studio offerings that should never have been committed to tape >> (`Dangerous Visions', I'm looking at you). I also don't reckon >> IitBotFtbD very much, I mean it's not bad but it's not exciting at all, >> to me at least. IYA has some excellent stuff on it but is marred by >> badly-edited Rizz and is perhaps the most schizophrenically-split of all >> HW albums, Dave on one side and a band on the other and when the twain >> meet it's got Rizz all over it (I was much happier with him on _Hawkwind >> 1997_). _Out and Intake_ is like _Zones_ only without the extremes >> and with more anonymous production. And I like _Spacebrock_ for what it >> is, viz a Dave solo album, but TMYTL is clearly better. Then we get down >> into the fine print. I'd have trouble deciding between TMYTL and any of >> _Sonic Attack_, flawed though it be, _Church of Hawkwind_ or _Space >> Bandits_. For some reason _Church_ is a very nice unit, even though >> perhaps it's not electrically exciting; on the other hand it's >> questionable what one loses off _Space Bandits_ if one can still own >> _California Brainstorm_. So I guess in a pinch I'd keep _Space >> Bandits_ and _Church_ in the ranks above and drop _Sonic Attack_, >> some of which I like but some of which is really tedious, below. All the >> other core albums I'd probably take over TMYTL, except that if I was >> allowed to keep _Love in Space_ I'd keep TMYTL rather than _Alien4_ (but >> if we were only ranking studio albums _Alien4_ would beat it), and >> actually _Yule Ritual_, good though it is, doesn't really do anything >> that some other live album somewhere doesn't do better. >> >> So, at that rate, I guess that currently TMYTL is 9th from the >> bottom, out of what, 34 core albums? Not so great perhaps, maybe you >> were right to question my commitment to it, but I'm still quite pleased >> by it as an album. I mean, most of the ones I've ranked below it I like >> in some way, it's really only _Zones_ and IYA I find genuinely >> unsatisfactory and even they have things on that still make me play >> them. O&I is pretty pointless too, basically I don't like the bag-of- >> bits approach to an album, TiHDnP excepted because it's all great stuff. >> Even these days, annoyed and disappointed, I remain a fan, you know. >> Yours, >> Jon >> >> ObMP3: Amon Tobin - `Chomp Samba' >> -- >> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 23 20:00:06 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:00:06 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8/23/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I agree, try to clean an album blind, some time, especially living with a > cat. I actually did clean a copy of Captain Lockheed blind one time when I was in the middle of invention with my home-made vacuum machine, however there was no feline.... despite my technical breakthrough, I always felt some guilt. If cleaning is the trouble then I am fascinated and I can likely solve this. Nothing more than a carbon fiber brush is required. I am amazed at how you do the rest. Getting back on track with the thread, if you want in there is no provision for non-sightedness, you have to obtain the single. It is a long tradition and it is to show the sacrificial lengths you are willing to go through in a relatively short time unto space rock's finest. We realize many members no longer play records and also respect each individual owner's choice weather or not they wish to actually play their single....you will not be questioned.......hazing remains the same for the relatively small female percentage From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Aug 23 20:06:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:06:08 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808231700t4d53cd12tecf6729a2d4c3671@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: darnit!!! the below post was in my draft and sent accidentally.......sorry, what I wanted to send was..."Mary I have been going through this Kollecktor Klub manual (of course she won't notice the K's I just used) for a few hours now, and its all very confusing but it looks like I can find a loophole in the most extreme situations, such as like when one of the male members needs to know how to check a melon for ripeness, but the girl at the store already helped me, however it is very very clear that the Klub is only for the sighted......I'm terribly sorry really" On 8/23/08, mike coleman wrote: > > > On 8/23/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: >> >> I agree, try to clean an album blind, some time, especially living with a >> cat. > > > I actually did clean a copy of Captain Lockheed blind one time when I was > in the middle of invention with my home-made vacuum machine, however there > was no feline.... > despite my technical breakthrough, I always felt some guilt. If cleaning is > the trouble then I am fascinated and I can likely solve this. Nothing more > than a carbon fiber brush is required. I am amazed at how you do the rest. > Getting back on track with the thread, if you want in there is no provision > for non-sightedness, you have to obtain the single. It is a long tradition > and it is to show the sacrificial lengths you are willing to go through in a > relatively short time unto space rock's finest. We realize many members no > longer play records and also respect each individual owner's choice weather > or not they wish to actually play their single....you will not be > questioned.......hazing remains the same for the relatively small female > percentage > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Aug 24 04:38:05 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:38:05 -0500 Subject: +++ HW +++ advertising aid item israel doremi +++ HW +++ Message-ID: here is a rare-ass Israeli pressing of Doremi that I thought somebody might want since the cover is laminated but mostly because I just discovered the song credits on the back cover are whack, they are out of order, a few are shortened, one is printed more lightly, and the musician credits are changed UNIQUE!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250286289216&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1123 mike From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Aug 24 07:42:28 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:42:28 -0500 Subject: +++ HW +++ advertising aid item israel doremi +++ HW +++ In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808240138j20a879d6p3e440d6cdde30d2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: whoops, mistake, your british originals are now devalued and you'll simply have to expand your collections with some other pressing. The reason I made this error is because the Israel prsssings credit the USA on the label and so I was comparing to the USA-Yank vesrion which has the songs listed correct......I think On 8/24/08, mike coleman wrote: > > here is a rare-ass Israeli pressing of Doremi that I thought somebody might > want since the cover is laminated but mostly because I just discovered the > song credits on the back cover are whack, they are out of order, a few are > shortened, one is printed more lightly, and the musician credits are changed > UNIQUE!!!!! > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250286289216&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1123 > mike > > From clyvedon.press at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Aug 24 08:03:48 2008 From: clyvedon.press at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Chris Purdon) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:03:48 -0400 Subject: Robert Calvert at Pentameters Theatre Message-ID: Pentameters is proud to present, as part of its 40th anniversary, a double bill of short one-act plays in memory of the renowned playwright and poet ROBERT CALVERT who died 20 years ago. Cattle at Twilight, here premiered, is a fantasy about Noel Coward and Hendrix set in a celestial zone. The Stars that Play with Laughing Sam?s Dice, premiered at Pentameters in 1976 with a set designed by Barney Bubbles, portrays Sergeant McNully and Jimi?s last parachute jump in 1961. The performance also features the newly re-discovered poem of Robert's entitled Blue Grow The Rushes O. These plays are directed and produced by L?onie Scott-Matthews, who first presented Robert Calvert at Pentameters in 1969 reading from his play The Box. He subsequently read his poetry there over the years. Jonson Wilkinson plays Noel Coward, Jeff Mash (from Seattle ? Hendrix?s birthplace) Sergeant McNully, and Jason Julien?Connage Jimi Hendrix. The set is designed by Godfrey Old, with sound design by Godfrey Old in collaboration with Edward Roumfort. Wednesday 10th September until Saturday 20th September (no Monday performance). There will also be a performance of these two plays at the Robert Calvert Memorial Concert in Herne Bay on 28 September. Tuesday ? Saturday 8.00pm. Sunday 5.00pm. Tickets ?12. Concession ?10. Box Office/Press +44 (0)207 435 3648. ----- PENTAMETERS THE HORSESHOE, 28 HEATH STREET, HAMPSTEAD, LONDON NW3 6TE, UK www.pentameters.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)207 435 3648 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 25 06:35:58 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:35:58 +0100 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:26:49 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Mon Aug 25 07:22:45 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:22:45 +0200 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <200808251035.m7PAZw3E007360@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:35:58 +0100, M Holmes wrote > Paul Mather writes: > > > Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least > > from different batches if the same model? There's an increased chance > > of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate for all > > your eggs to be lost in one go... > > We won't be safe until all Hawkwind tracks are etched on the event > horizon of a black hole. Yes, in stationary photons, please! Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 25 07:40:57 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:40:57 -0700 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: Yeah the people who keep tabs on these things at work tell me that the shiny new high capacity disks (I think they said anything .5 Gig+) use some magnetic storage scheme that is more prone to sudden catastrophic failure than the previous mag tech. Dunno how that washes with the last 20 years of improvments in drive mechanism reliability... But they advised me the same thing - cycle backups between drives by diff manufacturers. Which I have done, then after the dual failures 6 months from now, some helpful soul will doubtless point out my error in purchasing from two relabelers who use the same underlying OEM drive. :) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 5:56 pm Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 22 Aug 2008, at 16:26 , Paul Mather wrote: Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least from different batches if the same model? There's an increased chance of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate for all your eggs to be lost in one go... Same manufacturer, I think, but different models and all. Purchased in different countries, I think! I tend to keep the backup drive disconnected and powered down except when actually doing a periodic backup. Good points, though! You can never have too much redundancy. (I've always got the CDs for most things, of course, though re- ripping them would be pain! But of course the CDs are subject to the evil CD rot, vinyl gets scratched, tapes wear thin or get magnetized ... and a house fire would really screw it all! ;)) Cheer,s Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 25 07:51:01 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:51:01 -0700 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: Oh and as for CD rot, when I mp3'ed roughly 300 of my CDs last year, I found that I had rot on maybe 5 disks, and in most cases it only affected the last track or two (I think only 1 disk was completely hosed). Also some very long disks that I thought had rotted out the last few tracks proved readable by newer drives with better DAE (a $25 LITE-ON drive kicked the ass of my 5 year old Plextor). Steve -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: Friday, Aug 22, 2008 5:56 pm Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 22 Aug 2008, at 16:26 , Paul Mather wrote: Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least from different batches if the same model? There's an increased chance of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate for all your eggs to be lost in one go... Same manufacturer, I think, but different models and all. Purchased in different countries, I think! I tend to keep the backup drive disconnected and powered down except when actually doing a periodic backup. Good points, though! You can never have too much redundancy. (I've always got the CDs for most things, of course, though re- ripping them would be pain! But of course the CDs are subject to the evil CD rot, vinyl gets scratched, tapes wear thin or get magnetized ... and a house fire would really screw it all! ;)) Cheer,s Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 25 08:09:01 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:09:01 -0400 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <20080825112202.M54648@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: On 25 Aug 2008, at 7:22 AM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:35:58 +0100, M Holmes wrote >> Paul Mather writes: >> >>> Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least >>> from different batches if the same model? There's an increased >>> chance >>> of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate for all >>> your eggs to be lost in one go... >> >> We won't be safe until all Hawkwind tracks are etched on the event >> horizon of a black hole. > > Yes, in stationary photons, please! ...from at least two different manufacturers?? ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 25 09:25:09 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:25:09 +0100 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:09:01 -0400 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 25 10:31:24 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:31:24 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Aug 2008, at 07:28 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > I only had 1 drive, that's why I went down, but > I still don't know how to do back up, Chris was going to show me > all that. Well, up until now, I use the incredibly dumb and brute force method of occasionally copying my entire "active" music library from one hard drive to the the backup drive. I attach the backup drive, copy the music library to it (replacing the old version of the backup), and then I disconnect the backup drive until the next time I do a backup. I need to buy some larger drives (which is gonna have to wait until at least I get through the next round of house payments, if not until I'm next in the States), and I plan to buy some decent backup software (which will compare my "active" and "backup" copies of the music library, and then only copy across the bits that have changed in the "active" library to the "backup" library -- which should be quicker and more efficient. There are many backup packages available, but as I have a Mac, I can't really say that much about the relative merits of backup software for Windows. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Mon Aug 25 10:52:41 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:52:41 +0200 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3BB1025B-AFC7-4D9D-9358-2C131AB2711F@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:31:24 -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote > Well, up until now, I use the incredibly dumb and brute force method Out of curiosity, has anyone gone through the drill of restoring their data from a backup? We once backed up a fileserver, swapped its disk for a fresh one, and did a restore. The process seemed to be successful, only to find out at the next boot that mere random patterns had been written to the disk. The only way to get a usable disk again was a low level format.... Not to scare you in any way, but if you're _not_ using Carl's brute force method, do go through the drill. It's worth it. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 25 10:59:42 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:59:42 -0700 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: Hmmph, to think that Arjan would be leading the next wave of "Perfect Music Forever" disinformation! The next thing you know we'll all be sitting at the heat death of the universe, looking mournfully at our photon-decayed copy of Space Ritual... "but they said this one wouldn't wear out!" Really, haven't we fallen for this one enough times already? Steve -----Original Message----- From: Paul Mather Date: Monday, Aug 25, 2008 8:11 am Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET On 25 Aug 2008, at 7:22 AM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:35:58 +0100, M Holmes wrote > Paul Mather writes: > >> Are your two hard drives from different manufacturers, or at least >> from different batches if the same model? There's an increased >> chance >> of simultaneous/close together failures otherwise. I'd hate for all >> your eggs to be lost in one go... > > We won't be safe until all Hawkwind tracks are etched on the event > horizon of a black hole. > Yes, in stationary photons, please! ..from at least two different manufacturers?? ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Mon Aug 25 11:06:45 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:06:45 +0200 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3302506781.62818802@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:59:42 -0700, Steve Swann wrote > Really, haven't we fallen for this one enough times already? Sho'nuff, but did we ever learn? Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Aug 25 11:16:31 2008 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:16:31 +0000 Subject: OEBs w/ Stewkwey of NAZZ this Thursday night in Trenton, New Jersey, 8/28 Message-ID: All the information is contained below...Cheers!Iowa Punks to bill with classic rockers in Trenton, NJ 8/28 'Funks G' to bill with The One Eyed Bishops in Trenton, NJAugust 28th, 2008http://i-newswire. com/pr187328. html _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows?. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 25 11:29:41 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:29:41 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <20080825150547.M55366@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: On 25 Aug 2008, at 10:06 , Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:59:42 -0700, Steve Swann wrote >> Really, haven't we fallen for this one enough times already? > > Sho'nuff, but did we ever learn? Already weeds are writing their scriptures in the sand! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Aug 25 11:35:14 2008 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:35:14 +0100 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] Robert Calvert at Pentameters Theatre, London Message-ID: Something else from the Yahoo mailing list and I think it's also mentioned on the web discussion forum. jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: chris_purdon To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: [Hawkwind] Robert Calvert at Pentameters Theatre, London Pentameters is proud to present, as part of its 40th anniversary, a double bill of short one-act plays in memory of the renowned playwright and poet ROBERT CALVERT who died 20 years ago. Cattle at Twilight, here premiered, is a fantasy about Noel Coward and Hendrix set in a celestial zone. The Stars that Play with Laughing Sam's Dice, premiered at Pentameters in 1976 with a set designed by Barney Bubbles, portrays Sergeant McNully and Jimi's last parachute jump in 1961. The performance also features the newly re-discovered poem of Robert's entitled Blue Grow The Rushes O. These plays are directed and produced by L?onie Scott-Matthews, who first presented Robert Calvert at Pentameters in 1969 reading from his play The Box. He subsequently read his poetry there over the years. Jonson Wilkinson plays Noel Coward, Jeff Mash (from Seattle - Hendrix's birthplace) Sergeant McNully, and Jason Julien-Connage Jimi Hendrix. The set is designed by Godfrey Old, with sound design by Godfrey Old in collaboration with Edward Roumfort. Wednesday 10th September until Saturday 20th September (no Monday performance). There will also be a performance of these two plays at the Robert Calvert Memorial Concert in Herne Bay on 28 September. Tuesday - Saturday 8.00pm. Sunday 5.00pm. Tickets ?12. Concession ?10. Box Office/Press 0207 435 3648. --------- PENTAMETERS THE HORSESHOE, 28 HEATH STREET, HAMPSTEAD, LONDON NW3 6TE, UK www.pentameters.co.uk Tel: 0207 435 3648 __,_._,___ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 25 12:23:26 2008 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:23:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: Drives and backups (was: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++) In-Reply-To: <20080825144408.M7865@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: On 25 Aug 2008, at 10:52 AM, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:31:24 -0500, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote >> Well, up until now, I use the incredibly dumb and brute force method > > Out of curiosity, has anyone gone through the drill of restoring > their data > from a backup? We once backed up a fileserver, swapped its disk for > a fresh > one, and did a restore. The process seemed to be successful, only to > find out > at the next boot that mere random patterns had been written to the > disk. The > only way to get a usable disk again was a low level format.... > > Not to scare you in any way, but if you're _not_ using Carl's brute > force > method, do go through the drill. It's worth it. I've restored from backups several times, including, I'm happy to say as a Mac user, a complete system restore successfully from a Time Machine backup. (I've also done many successful restores from a Tivoli TSM regular backup.) Usually, when I'm archiving data to DVD, I'll include an MD5 checksum of all the data on the disc along with the files themselves. Then, I check the written data against that. It's no protection against the DVD subsequently becoming unreadable, but at least it guards against the backup-wrote-random-gibberish-instead-of-the-data-you'd-intended scenario you mention above. All decent backup software will also let you verify a backup, too. DDS DAT drives, which I've used in the past for backups, feature read-after-write tape heads. One of the things to remember about hard drives is that though they have automatic bad sector reallocation, it is only triggered on a write. So, if you have data sitting on a sector that subsequently goes bad, there's nothing the drive can do about it. That's where redundant schemes like RAID come in: it can try and recover the data automatically from other drives in the RAID, or from parity information. Alas, this is where you can also discover that other drives in the RAID, say same models from the same manufacturer or same batch, have also failed in similar fashion, and the multiple failures cause the RAID itself to fail. Because of this cluster failure phenomenon, enterprise level RAID controllers will usually have an option for the controller to periodically "police" the entire surface of all attached drives, making sure the data are readable. Arjan, you might want to look into using the ZFS filesystem for your fileservers. One of its main design features is to try not to trust data coming from various subsystems unless it can verify it. Thus, it employs various levels of checksumming and redundancy. It tries to be proactive about data integrity, too. It has a "scrub" function that tries to discover bad sectors, and, in a RAID configuration, automatic resilvering when bad data are discovered. ZFS is supported by Solaris and FreeBSD 7+, to give two examples. (Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard features read-only ZFS support and a read-write ZFS kernel module via the Developer Zone. Hopefully, Time Machine in 10.6 will use ZFS as its underlying file system...) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 25 13:12:43 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:12:43 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "On 8/25/08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: Already weeds are writing their scriptures in the sand! ;)" (audible bubble gum chewing), comments: "but this goes to eleven!" From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Aug 25 13:14:43 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:14:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: Drives and backups (was: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++) In-Reply-To: <9DEEECF2-A857-4E33-9CCB-2DF2DC9711B3@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 25 Aug 2008, at 11:23 , Paul Mather wrote: > I'm happy to say as a Mac user, a complete system restore > successfully from a Time Machine backup. Yeah, I haven't made the move to Leopard yet; I'm still on Tiger. I guess it remains to be seen whether I move to 10.5 before 10.6 comes along! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Aug 25 17:03:17 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:03:17 -0500 Subject: (OFF) A Call For Help From You Smart Starrats Message-ID: *Dear Forum, I totally apologize for just how "off" this is but I need some help for a special friend who is in Colorado pulling his hair out, this guy is amazing and spends all his free time helping people, and I am one of his subjects, anyway, please provide some thoughts as computers are neither one of our strengths, I was proud to suggest asking you guys when on the phone....* Yo so here it is. I can not get on T-mobil.com web site. what happens when I try to get on the site it comes up with security error message I enter ph# and password and continue than I get the option of proceeding to the web site even though it is not recomended. I choose this and it goes to thier home page. normally when this happens with other sites Like my e-mail site I can then go ahead and navigate the site. this is not the case with the t- mobil site. I try to use the site and it kicks me off and asks for my ph# and password again. I am able to access this site from other computers. I have spent a lot of time with a varity of tech support personel at t- mobil no help. I have Added thier web site to my security page on internet explorer 7 and this still does not work. I tried micro soft support that was suppose to be free and after an hour of tranfers and holding they told me to call a different ph#. I did this and they said Oh yea we can fix the problem but it will cost you. They would not even give me an estimate of how much it would cost me to use this free micro soft support. thanks Mike good luck I hope you can help. Peace dude! ------------------------------ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find Out How From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Aug 24 23:20:37 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:20:37 +0000 Subject: HW: hitherto undiscovered cover version of "Sonic Attack" Message-ID: Which is found on The Deep Freeze Mice "Live In Switzerland", track 10 called "Ant men". modern life with the Hawks. NP: Jethro Tull "Life's A Long Song" ObCD: Childsupport "Welcome To Amerika" Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Aug 25 04:40:40 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:40:40 +0000 Subject: HBY:vinyl sux Message-ID: CDs & downloads are THE FUTURE i'm with Carl, there! suxsuxsux CDs & downloads are THE FUTURE i'm with Carl, there! c. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Aug 25 10:51:09 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:51:09 +0000 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: i backed up my entire PC on a portable drive. But I broke the port on the drive and have to break it open and put it INSIDE my laptop. tell Mary or me how to do that! C. ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 16:31:24 Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ On 23 Aug 2008, at 07:28 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > I only had 1 drive, that's why I went down, but > I still don't know how to do back up, Chris was going to show me > all that. Well, up until now, I use the incredibly dumb and brute force method of occasionally copying my entire "active" music library from one hard drive to the the backup drive. I attach the backup drive, copy the music library to it (replacing the old version of the backup), and then I disconnect the backup drive until the next time I do a backup. I need to buy some larger drives (which is gonna have to wait until at least I get through the next round of house payments, if not until I'm next in the States), and I plan to buy some decent backup software (which will compare my "active" and "backup" copies of the music library, and then only copy across the bits that have changed in the "active" library to the "backup" library -- which should be quicker and more efficient. There are many backup packages available, but as I have a Mac, I can't really say that much about the relative merits of backup software for Windows. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Aug 26 04:58:10 2008 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:10 +0200 Subject: OFF: Drives and backups (was: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++) In-Reply-To: <9DEEECF2-A857-4E33-9CCB-2DF2DC9711B3@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:23:26 -0400, Paul Mather wrote > One of the things to remember about hard drives is that though they > have automatic bad sector reallocation, it is only triggered on a > write. So, if you have data sitting on a sector that subsequently > goes bad, there's nothing the drive can do about it. That's where > redundant schemes like RAID come in: it can try and recover the data > automatically from other drives in the RAID, or from parity > information. Alas, this is where you can also discover that other > drives in the RAID, say same models from the same manufacturer or > same batch, have also failed in similar fashion, and the multiple > failures cause the RAID itself to fail. This is especially true when you do disk mirroring... > Because of this cluster failure phenomenon, enterprise level RAID > controllers will usually have an option for the controller to > periodically "police" the entire surface of all attached drives, > making sure the data are readable. > > Arjan, you might want to look into using the ZFS filesystem for > your fileservers. One of its main design features is to try not to > trust data coming from various subsystems unless it can verify it. > Thus, it employs various levels of checksumming and redundancy. It > tries to be proactive about data integrity, too. It has a "scrub" > function that tries to discover bad sectors, and, in a RAID > configuration, automatic resilvering when bad data are discovered. ZFS is very groovy, more so when you have _lost_ of Gigs to throw into the game. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 26 07:34:57 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:34:57 -0700 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: "It depends." There's a fair to good chance though that any external drive is just a standard SATA drive in fancy enclosure. You might be able to tear it out and just buy a new drive enclosure (I've bought several from Newegg.com). No guarantees you understand... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Amphetamine Embalmer Date: Monday, Aug 25, 2008 8:04 pm Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET i backed up my entire PC on a portable drive. But I broke the port on the drive and have to break it open and put it INSIDE my laptop. tell Mary or me how to do that! C. ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 16:31:24 Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ On 23 Aug 2008, at 07:28 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > I only had 1 drive, that's why I went down, but > I still don't know how to do back up, Chris was going to show me > all that. Well, up until now, I use the incredibly dumb and brute force method of occasionally copying my entire "active" music library from one hard drive to the the backup drive. I attach the backup drive, copy the music library to it (replacing the old version of the backup), and then I disconnect the backup drive until the next time I do a backup. I need to buy some larger drives (which is gonna have to wait until at least I get through the next round of house payments, if not until I'm next in the States), and I plan to buy some decent backup software (which will compare my "active" and "backup" copies of the music library, and then only copy across the bits that have changed in the "active" library to the "backup" library -- which should be quicker and more efficient. There are many backup packages available, but as I have a Mac, I can't really say that much about the relative merits of backup software for Windows. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From swann1066 at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 26 07:41:34 2008 From: swann1066 at GMAIL.COM (Steve Swann) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:41:34 -0700 Subject: (OFF) A Call For Help From You Smart Starrats Message-ID: Make sure his browser is accepting cookies, it's sounding like IE is failing to maintain the session. If that doesn't fix it contact me off list. Steve -----Original Message----- From: mike coleman Date: Monday, Aug 25, 2008 5:05 pm Subject: (OFF) A Call For Help From You Smart Starrats To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET *Dear Forum, I totally apologize for just how "off" this is but I need some help for a special friend who is in Colorado pulling his hair out, this guy is amazing and spends all his free time helping people, and I am one of his subjects, anyway, please provide some thoughts as computers are neither one of our strengths, I was proud to suggest asking you guys when on the phone....* Yo so here it is. I can not get on T-mobil.com web site. what happens when I try to get on the site it comes up with security error message I enter ph# and password and continue than I get the option of proceeding to the web site even though it is not recomended. I choose this and it goes to thier home page. normally when this happens with other sites Like my e-mail site I can then go ahead and navigate the site. this is not the case with the t- mobil site. I try to use the site and it kicks me off and asks for my ph# and password again. I am able to access this site from other computers. I have spent a lot of time with a varity of tech support personel at t- mobil no help. I have Added thier web site to my security page on internet explorer 7 and this still does not work. I tried micro soft support that was suppose to be free and after an hour of tranfers and holding they told me to call a different ph#. I did this and they said Oh yea we can fix the problem but it will cost you. They would not even give me an estimate of how much it would cost me to use this free micro soft support. thanks Mike good luck I hope you can help. Peace dude! ------------------------------ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find Out How From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 26 07:49:03 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:49:03 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3302580897.1678166@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: do something like the back of the original pxr5 album here On 8/26/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > "It depends." There's a fair to good chance though that any external drive > is just a standard SATA drive in fancy enclosure. You might be able to tear > it out and just buy a new drive enclosure (I've bought several from > Newegg.com). > No guarantees you understand... > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Amphetamine Embalmer > Date: Monday, Aug 25, 2008 8:04 pm > Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one > man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > i backed up my entire PC on a portable drive. But I broke the port on the > drive and have to break it open and put it INSIDE my laptop. > tell Mary or me how to do that! > > C. > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Monday, 25 August, 2008 16:31:24 > Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man > isolator+++ > > On 23 Aug 2008, at 07:28 , Mary Sullivan wrote: > > I only had 1 drive, that's why I went down, but > > I still don't know how to do back up, Chris was going to show me > > all that. > > > > Well, up until now, I use the incredibly dumb and brute force method > of occasionally copying my entire "active" music library from one > hard drive to the the backup drive. I attach the backup drive, copy > the music library to it (replacing the old version of the backup), > and then I disconnect the backup drive until the next time I do a > backup. > > I need to buy some larger drives (which is gonna have to wait until > at least I get through the next round of house payments, if not until > I'm next in the States), and I plan to buy some decent backup > software (which will compare my "active" and "backup" copies of the > music library, and then only copy across the bits that have changed > in the "active" library to the "backup" library -- which should be > quicker and more efficient. > > There are many backup packages available, but as I have a Mac, I > can't really say that much about the relative merits of backup > software for Windows. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Aug 26 07:52:17 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:52:17 -0500 Subject: (OFF) A Call For Help From You Smart Starrats In-Reply-To: <3302581293.1717811@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: will do and thank you, I was very embarrased to ask the forum, and would have needed low esteem pills if it went totally ignored I meant to say anyone could contact me offlist. have great evenings On 8/26/08, Steve Swann wrote: > > Make sure his browser is accepting cookies, it's sounding like IE is > failing to maintain the session. > > If that doesn't fix it contact me off list. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike coleman > Date: Monday, Aug 25, 2008 5:05 pm > Subject: (OFF) A Call For Help From You Smart Starrats > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To: > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > *Dear Forum, I totally apologize for just how "off" this is but I need some > help for a special friend who is in Colorado pulling his hair out, this guy > is amazing and spends all his free time helping people, and I am one of his > subjects, anyway, please provide some thoughts as computers are neither one > of our strengths, I was proud to suggest asking you guys when on the > phone....* > > > Yo so here it is. I can not get on T-mobil.com web site. what happens when > I try to get on the site it comes up with security error message I enter ph# > and password and continue than I get the option of proceeding to the web > site even though it is not recomended. I choose this and it goes to thier > home page. normally when this happens with other sites Like my e-mail site I > can then go ahead and navigate the site. this is not the case with the t- > mobil site. I try to use the site and it kicks me off and asks for my ph# > and password again. I am able to access this site from other computers. I > have spent a lot of time with a varity of tech support personel at t- mobil > no help. I have Added thier web site to my security page on internet > explorer 7 and this still does not work. I tried micro soft support that > was suppose to be free and after an hour of tranfers and holding they told > me to call a different ph#. I did this and they said Oh yea we can fix the > problem but it will cost you. They would not even give me an estimate of how > much it would cost me to use this free micro soft support. thanks Mike good > luck I hope you can help. Peace dude! > ------------------------------ > Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find Out > How< > http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 > > > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Aug 26 08:38:10 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:38:10 -0500 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ In-Reply-To: <3302580897.1678166@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: It might be tough to cram an external drive into a laptop -- laptops tend to require smaller drives than normally go into external enclosures or desktop machines, I think. But as Steve says, you might well simply be able to buy another external enclosure and put the drive itself in that. I did the opposite once, and pulled an old laptop drive out of an otherwise dead laptop and stuck it in a external enclosure (sized for such drives). It's actually still humming away here now, though rather small for my music library -- I use it as a kind of tertiary backup for other small files and stuff. Cheers, Carl On 26 Aug 2008, at 06:34 , Steve Swann wrote: > "It depends." There's a fair to good chance though that any > external drive is just a standard SATA drive in fancy enclosure. > You might be able to tear it out and just buy a new drive enclosure > (I've bought several from Newegg.com). > No guarantees you understand... > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Amphetamine Embalmer > Date: Monday, Aug 25, 2008 8:04 pm > Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan++ > +one man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > i backed up my entire PC on a portable drive. But I broke the port > on the drive and have to break it open and put it INSIDE my laptop. > tell Mary or me how to do that! > > C. > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 26 11:03:15 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:03:15 +0000 Subject: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ Message-ID: well my now broken ext. backup drive is a Seagate Free Agent and my PC is a portable Toshiba Satellite. Its hard to imagine room for another hard disk inside my PC. Looks like buying a new plastic shell for the Seagate is the solution. c. ----- Original Message ---- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Tuesday, 26 August, 2008 14:38:10 Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan+++one man isolator+++ It might be tough to cram an external drive into a laptop -- laptops tend to require smaller drives than normally go into external enclosures or desktop machines, I think. But as Steve says, you might well simply be able to buy another external enclosure and put the drive itself in that. I did the opposite once, and pulled an old laptop drive out of an otherwise dead laptop and stuck it in a external enclosure (sized for such drives). It's actually still humming away here now, though rather small for my music library -- I use it as a kind of tertiary backup for other small files and stuff. Cheers, Carl On 26 Aug 2008, at 06:34 , Steve Swann wrote: > "It depends." There's a fair to good chance though that any > external drive is just a standard SATA drive in fancy enclosure. > You might be able to tear it out and just buy a new drive enclosure > (I've bought several from Newegg.com). > No guarantees you understand... > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Amphetamine Embalmer > Date: Monday, Aug 25, 2008 8:04 pm > Subject: Re: +++stop press+++advertising aid item french hassan++ > +one man isolator+++ > To: Reply- BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > i backed up my entire PC on a portable drive. But I broke the port > on the drive and have to break it open and put it INSIDE my laptop. > tell Mary or me how to do that! > > C. > -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 27 09:16:25 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:16:25 -0700 Subject: No Brock?! Message-ID: Looks like Brock's not involved. That's not cool especially as many times as he's revised Calvert's songs. And there was that Calvert/Brock CD. ? Gary From Esoteric: As many of you know we are involved with arranging the Bob Calvert memorial date down in Herne Bay on 28th September with Nik and many of the old Hawklords and Starfighters present.(see www.nikturner,com) Tickets are reasonable at ?9.00? and available from www.seetickets.com.(search under Nik Turner) From steve.bishop at DB.COM Wed Aug 27 09:28:11 2008 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:28:11 +0100 Subject: No Brock?! In-Reply-To: <273933.32155.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: May have something to do with Nik being there ?! --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Please refer to http://www.db.com/en/content/eu_disclosures.htm for additional EU corporate and regulatory disclosures. From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Aug 27 09:42:14 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:42:14 +0000 Subject: No Brock?! In-Reply-To: <273933.32155.qm@web36908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: He was invited. --- On Wed, 27/8/08, gary shindler wrote: From: gary shindler Subject: No Brock?! To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:16 PM Looks like Brock's not involved. That's not cool especially as many times as he's revised Calvert's songs. And there was that Calvert/Brock CD. ? Gary >From Esoteric: As many of you know we are involved with arranging the Bob Calvert memorial date down in Herne Bay on 28th September with Nik and many of the old Hawklords and Starfighters present.(see www.nikturner,com) Tickets are reasonable at ?9.00? and available from www.seetickets.com.(search under Nik Turner) From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 27 09:48:20 2008 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:48:20 +0800 Subject: No Brock?! In-Reply-To: <766339.12587.qm@web23203.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dave Brock did a Robert Calvert concert memorial many years ago. 2008/8/27 Colin Allen > He was invited. > > --- On Wed, 27/8/08, gary shindler wrote: > > From: gary shindler > Subject: No Brock?! > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:16 PM > > Looks like Brock's not involved. That's not cool especially as many > times as he's revised Calvert's songs. And there was that Calvert/Brock > CD. > Gary > From Esoteric: > As many of you know we are involved with arranging the Bob Calvert memorial > date down in Herne Bay on 28th September with Nik and many of the old > Hawklords > and Starfighters present.(see www.nikturner,com) Tickets are reasonable at > ?9.00 and available from www.seetickets.com.(search under Nik Turner) > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Aug 26 22:41:13 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:41:13 +0000 Subject: HW: The Deep Freeze Mice Message-ID: T Their take on "Sonic Attack" goes like this (it is called "Ant men": To the cheese factory to the four goats separate them as they consume the grass,which conceals that which is written beneath it Those of you who have X-Ray Vision press your foreheads to the floor panels so that you may warn the others of the approach of the Ant-Men Those of you who are Ant Men report to the nearest police station! it is found on their live in Switzerland CD Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Aug 27 10:12:40 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:12:40 +0000 Subject: No Brock?! In-Reply-To: <39dabad60808270648y6d8ee218ldecb4300a9409f1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As did others.? This event is intended to mark the 20th anniversary of the death of someone who was?Hawkwind's best ever frontman and who wrote the lyrics to some of their greatest songs.? It is also intended to raise a bit of money for his family. ? Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited chose not to attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; showing respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal animosity. --- On Wed, 27/8/08, Jonathan Smith wrote: From: Jonathan Smith Subject: Re: No Brock?! To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:48 PM Dave Brock did a Robert Calvert concert memorial many years ago. 2008/8/27 Colin Allen > He was invited. > > --- On Wed, 27/8/08, gary shindler wrote: > > From: gary shindler > Subject: No Brock?! > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:16 PM > > Looks like Brock's not involved. That's not cool especially as many > times as he's revised Calvert's songs. And there was that Calvert/Brock > CD. > Gary > From Esoteric: > As many of you know we are involved with arranging the Bob Calvert memorial > date down in Herne Bay on 28th September with Nik and many of the old > Hawklords > and Starfighters present.(see www.nikturner,com) Tickets are reasonable at > ?9.00 and available from www.seetickets.com.(search under Nik Turner) > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 27 11:08:24 2008 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:08:24 -0700 Subject: No Brock?! Message-ID: That's why I started the thread. Calvert's legacy with Hawkwind can't be ignored. I also wonder if Moorcock would be involved. Gary? ----- Original Message ---- From: Colin Allen As did others.? This event is intended to mark the 20th anniversary of the death of someone who was?Hawkwind's best ever frontman and who wrote the lyrics to some of their greatest songs.? It is also intended to raise a bit of money for his family. ? Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited chose not to attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; showing respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal animosity. --- On Wed, 27/8/08, Jonathan Smith wrote: From: Jonathan Smith Subject: Re: No Brock?! To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:48 PM Dave Brock did a Robert Calvert concert memorial many years ago. 2008/8/27 Colin Allen > He was invited. > > --- On Wed, 27/8/08, gary shindler wrote: > > From: gary shindler > Subject: No Brock?! > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:16 PM > > Looks like Brock's not involved. That's not cool especially as many > times as he's revised Calvert's songs. And there was that Calvert/Brock > CD. > Gary > From Esoteric: > As many of you know we are involved with arranging the Bob Calvert memorial > date down in Herne Bay on 28th September with Nik and many of the old > Hawklords > and Starfighters present.(see www.nikturner,com) Tickets are reasonable at > ?9.00? and available from www.seetickets.com.(search under Nik Turner) > From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Aug 27 11:33:34 2008 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:33:34 +0000 Subject: No Brock?! In-Reply-To: <5136.81375.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The last time that I saw Bob and Moorcock together, they were having a bit of a scuffle:). --- On Wed, 27/8/08, gary shindler wrote: From: gary shindler Subject: Re: No Brock?! To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 4:08 PM That's why I started the thread. Calvert's legacy with Hawkwind can't be ignored. I also wonder if Moorcock would be involved. Gary? ----- Original Message ---- From: Colin Allen As did others.? This event is intended to mark the 20th anniversary of the death of someone who was?Hawkwind's best ever frontman and who wrote the lyrics to some of their greatest songs.? It is also intended to raise a bit of money for his family. ? Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited chose not to attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; showing respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal animosity. --- On Wed, 27/8/08, Jonathan Smith wrote: From: Jonathan Smith Subject: Re: No Brock?! To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:48 PM Dave Brock did a Robert Calvert concert memorial many years ago. 2008/8/27 Colin Allen > He was invited. > > --- On Wed, 27/8/08, gary shindler wrote: > > From: gary shindler > Subject: No Brock?! > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008, 2:16 PM > > Looks like Brock's not involved. That's not cool especially as many > times as he's revised Calvert's songs. And there was that Calvert/Brock > CD. > Gary > From Esoteric: > As many of you know we are involved with arranging the Bob Calvert memorial > date down in Herne Bay on 28th September with Nik and many of the old > Hawklords > and Starfighters present.(see www.nikturner,com) Tickets are reasonable at > ?9.00? and available from www.seetickets.com.(search under Nik Turner) > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 27 15:48:40 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:48:40 -0500 Subject: ICU: Maximum Effect Message-ID: Oh, frabjous day! The replacement CD of _Maximum Effect_ that Trev so kindly burnt off for me finally finished wending its way to South America. Many thanks, Trev! The bones of elvis are once more among us .... Anyone know the proper writing credits for the tracks? Just so I can enshrine them in my iTunes library forever and ever, amen? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Aug 27 16:03:36 2008 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:03:36 -0500 Subject: ICU: Maximum Effect In-Reply-To: <65F6C086-4B2D-4FC9-A893-AC9D02D7EB76@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 27 Aug 2008, at 14:48 , Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Anyone know the proper writing credits for the tracks? Just so I > can enshrine them in my iTunes library forever and ever, amen? Ah ha! Found them on the Real Festival Music site! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Aug 27 17:21:08 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:21:08 -0500 Subject: HW: The Deep Freeze Mice In-Reply-To: <446410.63944.qm@web23005.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: isn't this just another queen/vaniilla ice thing?? On 8/26/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > T > Their take on "Sonic Attack" goes like this (it is called "Ant men": > > To the cheese factory to the four goats separate > them as they consume the grass,which conceals > that which is written beneath it > > Those of you who have X-Ray Vision press your > foreheads to the floor panels so that you may warn > the others of the approach of the Ant-Men > > Those of you who are Ant Men report to the nearest police station! > > it is found on their live in Switzerland CD > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 28 06:53:08 2008 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:53:08 +0100 Subject: ICU: Maximum Effect In-Reply-To: <65F6C086-4B2D-4FC9-A893-AC9D02D7EB76@carlaz.com> <8595BD5E-BD69-4A26-8679-739AE9EED5E1@carlaz.com> Message-ID: the secrets of existence themselves can be found on the real festival music site -------------------------------------------------- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:03 PM To: Subject: Re: ICU: Maximum Effect > On 27 Aug 2008, at 14:48 , Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> Anyone know the proper writing credits for the tracks? Just so I can >> enshrine them in my iTunes library forever and ever, amen? > > > Ah ha! Found them on the Real Festival Music site! :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 28 07:00:54 2008 From: smithjm77x7 at GMAIL.COM (Jonathan Smith) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:00:54 +0800 Subject: ICU: Maximum Effect In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not sure about that, but the ICU/MOAB CDs you sent me are quite profound. :) "Indolence...." is very strange. 2008/8/28 trev > the secrets of existence themselves can be found on the real festival music > site > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:03 PM > To: > Subject: Re: ICU: Maximum Effect > > > On 27 Aug 2008, at 14:48 , Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> >>> Anyone know the proper writing credits for the tracks? Just so I can >>> enshrine them in my iTunes library forever and ever, amen? >>> >> >> >> Ah ha! Found them on the Real Festival Music site! :) >> >> Cheers, >> Carl >> >> -- >> Carl Edlund Anderson >> http://www.carlaz.com/ >> >> From Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK Thu Aug 28 08:43:09 2008 From: Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:43:09 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:12:40 +0000 From: Colin Allen wrote: >Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited chose not to >attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; showing >respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal animosity. I've been in a similar situation myself - a mutual friends 50th celebration....Way I figured was I would respect the event and not turn up for fear of ruining what would otherwise have been a harmonious occasion..... coz i wouldn't have been able to contain my anger at this pillock who would have been there... my point is there is always a different way of looking at things - and what, really, does this have to do with cow bells? Joni Mitchell (I've looked at life from both sides now, From win and lose and still somehow, It's life's illusions I recall. I really don't know life, at all. ...)! From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Aug 28 10:18:02 2008 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (Mary Sullivan) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:18:02 -0400 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?! In-Reply-To: <48B6AB6D0200009C00066466@perth.iso.port.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Maxine Well put, "pillock " never heard that one. Kaduflyer -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Maxine Wesley Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?! Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:12:40 +0000 From: Colin Allen wrote: >Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited chose not to >attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; showing >respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal animosity. I've been in a similar situation myself - a mutual friends 50th celebration....Way I figured was I would respect the event and not turn up for fear of ruining what would otherwise have been a harmonious occasion..... coz i wouldn't have been able to contain my anger at this pillock who would have been there... my point is there is always a different way of looking at things - and what, really, does this have to do with cow bells? Joni Mitchell (I've looked at life from both sides now, From win and lose and still somehow, It's life's illusions I recall. I really don't know life, at all. ...)! From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 28 10:30:10 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:30:10 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: yes she did good with the hot potato yet another way to word things is "why would dave want to blow himself up"?? sad about the forum members, we'll miss them On 8/28/08, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Maxine Well put, "pillock " never heard that one. > > Kaduflyer > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Maxine Wesley > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?! > > > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:12:40 +0000 > From: Colin Allen wrote: > > >Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited chose not > to > >attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; showing > >respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal animosity. > > I've been in a similar situation myself - a mutual friends 50th > celebration....Way I figured was I would respect the event and not turn up > for fear of ruining what would otherwise have been a harmonious > occasion..... coz i wouldn't have been able to contain my anger at this > pillock who would have been there... my point is there is always a > different way of looking at things - and what, really, does this have to do > with cow bells? > > > Joni Mitchell > (I've looked at life from both sides now, From win and lose and still > somehow, It's life's illusions I recall. I really don't know life, at all. > ...)! > From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Thu Aug 28 13:14:18 2008 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:14:18 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Pillock" - excellent English epithet for "bear of VERY little brain" - and usually no social graces... ChrisW obCD:Nostalgia 77 Octet - Weapons of Jazz Destruction On 28 Aug 2008, at 15:18, Mary Sullivan wrote: > Hi Maxine Well put, "pillock " never heard that one. > > Kaduflyer > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Maxine Wesley > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?! > > > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:12:40 +0000 > From: Colin Allen wrote: > >> Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited >> chose not to >> attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; >> showing >> respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal >> animosity. > > I've been in a similar situation myself - a mutual friends 50th > celebration....Way I figured was I would respect the event and not > turn up > for fear of ruining what would otherwise have been a harmonious > occasion..... coz i wouldn't have been able to contain my anger at > this > pillock who would have been there... my point is there is always a > different way of looking at things - and what, really, does this > have to do > with cow bells? > > > Joni Mitchell > (I've looked at life from both sides now, From win and lose and still > somehow, It's life's illusions I recall. I really don't know life, > at all. > ...)! > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 28 15:45:09 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (bixonic expandora) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:45:09 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?! In-Reply-To: <581631CD-0F31-4C77-AB82-A67CAFE2F56B@madasafish.com> Message-ID: in an attempt at grace (nausea), I wonder if the fact this new label seems to be all-inclusive is telling of anything? Hillbillock On 8/28/08, Chris Warburton wrote: > > "Pillock" - excellent English epithet for "bear of VERY little brain" - and > usually no social graces... > ChrisW > obCD:Nostalgia 77 Octet - Weapons of Jazz Destruction > > On 28 Aug 2008, at 15:18, Mary Sullivan wrote: > > Hi Maxine Well put, "pillock " never heard that one. >> >> Kaduflyer >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Maxine Wesley >> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?! >> >> >> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:12:40 +0000 >> From: Colin Allen wrote: >> >> Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited chose not >>> to >>> attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; showing >>> respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal >>> animosity. >>> >> >> I've been in a similar situation myself - a mutual friends 50th >> celebration....Way I figured was I would respect the event and not turn up >> for fear of ruining what would otherwise have been a harmonious >> occasion..... coz i wouldn't have been able to contain my anger at this >> pillock who would have been there... my point is there is always a >> different way of looking at things - and what, really, does this have to >> do >> with cow bells? >> >> >> Joni Mitchell >> (I've looked at life from both sides now, From win and lose and still >> somehow, It's life's illusions I recall. I really don't know life, at all. >> ...)! >> >> From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Aug 28 12:44:21 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:44:21 +0000 Subject: HW: The Deep Freeze Mice Message-ID: its really more a tribute/homage to Sonic Attack, tongue in cheek style c. ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008 23:21:08 Subject: Re: HW: The Deep Freeze Mice isn't this just another queen/vaniilla ice thing?? On 8/26/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > T > Their take on "Sonic Attack" goes like this (it is called "Ant men": > > To the cheese factory to the four goats separate > them as they consume the grass,which conceals > that which is written beneath it > > Those of you who have X-Ray Vision press your > foreheads to the floor panels so that you may warn > the others of the approach of the Ant-Men > > Those of you who are Ant Men report to the nearest police station! > > it is found on their live in Switzerland CD > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From tim at KALYR.COM Thu Aug 28 17:54:46 2008 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:54:46 +0100 Subject: Imaginos CD Message-ID: Great to hear the album again - I only had it on vinyl, and it's a long long time since I've heard the entire album. Disappointed in the liner notes - can anyone explain why it failed to reproduce the original sleeve notes from the LP? -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog http://www.last.fm/user/kalyr From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Thu Aug 28 18:14:05 2008 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:14:05 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?! In-Reply-To: <17d80c610808281245g5b4264fbk1a1cb559df152783@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I dunno, but the deputy had at my son's school was BillWhillock... On 28 Aug 2008, at 20:45, bixonic expandora wrote: > in an attempt at grace (nausea), I wonder if the fact this new label > seems > to be all-inclusive is telling of anything? > Hillbillock > > > On 8/28/08, Chris Warburton wrote: >> >> "Pillock" - excellent English epithet for "bear of VERY little >> brain" - and >> usually no social graces... >> ChrisW >> obCD:Nostalgia 77 Octet - Weapons of Jazz Destruction >> >> On 28 Aug 2008, at 15:18, Mary Sullivan wrote: >> >> Hi Maxine Well put, "pillock " never heard that one. >>> >>> Kaduflyer >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Maxine Wesley >>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 AM >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Subject: Re: Off - Wot No Brock?! >>> >>> >>> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:12:40 +0000 >>> From: Colin Allen wrote: >>> >>> Personally, I would find it very sad if anyone who was invited >>> chose not >>>> to >>>> attend due to a personal dislike for someone who is taking part; >>>> showing >>>> respect to Bob and his work is far more important than personal >>>> animosity. >>>> >>> >>> I've been in a similar situation myself - a mutual friends 50th >>> celebration....Way I figured was I would respect the event and not >>> turn up >>> for fear of ruining what would otherwise have been a harmonious >>> occasion..... coz i wouldn't have been able to contain my anger at >>> this >>> pillock who would have been there... my point is there is always a >>> different way of looking at things - and what, really, does this >>> have to >>> do >>> with cow bells? >>> >>> >>> Joni Mitchell >>> (I've looked at life from both sides now, From win and lose and >>> still >>> somehow, It's life's illusions I recall. I really don't know life, >>> at all. >>> ...)! >>> >>> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 28 18:20:52 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (bixonic expandora) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:20:52 -0500 Subject: HW: The Deep Freeze Mice In-Reply-To: <104596.60265.qm@web23005.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: yes, make that a hawkwind/vanilla mice thing the heat, the heat....HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPP On 8/28/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > its really more a tribute/homage to Sonic Attack, tongue in cheek style > > c. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Wednesday, 27 August, 2008 23:21:08 > Subject: Re: HW: The Deep Freeze Mice > > isn't this just another queen/vaniilla ice thing?? > > On 8/26/08, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > > T > > Their take on "Sonic Attack" goes like this (it is called "Ant men": > > > > To the cheese factory to the four goats separate > > them as they consume the grass,which conceals > > that which is written beneath it > > > > Those of you who have X-Ray Vision press your > > foreheads to the floor panels so that you may warn > > the others of the approach of the Ant-Men > > > > Those of you who are Ant Men report to the nearest police station! > > > > it is found on their live in Switzerland CD > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Aug 28 23:23:28 2008 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:23:28 -0500 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation Message-ID: On 8/28/08, Chris Warburton wrote: > > I dunno, but the deputy had at my son's school was BillWhillock... > that's almost a little scary, maybe you have _actual_ hillocks where you > live?? I guess they need enforcement like that now huh?? > if nothing else to make sure the kids "pull 'em up" and don't show draws and that their clothing doesn't double as weaponry (this would apply for USA) I saw a newslink that teachers can "pack heat" here in the states now?? I guess I certainly would want to if I did that profession!! and for no special reason, I say, I am now getting spammed blind by one of my old "aces" and Alan Davey's "captured rotation" was on there, so I guess there is a new issue of this?? that was a special moment for me, there's symbology aplenty going on with the track list, I'd just seen a green meteor, and it's a good little album IMHO just thought I'd mention it in case one person did not know...... From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 29 06:29:27 2008 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:29:27 +0100 Subject: Off - Wot No Brock?!/ captured rotation In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:23:28 -0500 Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Aug 29 05:28:03 2008 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:28:03 +0000 Subject: HW: "Zzzypanm" My superduper 999 net auctions at QXL Message-ID: i am selling CDs by Amon Duul, N http://auksjon.qxl.no/boddhisattva i am selling CDs by Amon Duul, Nik Turner, Quarkspace, Soft Machine and more. START BIDDING :-) Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com