From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Oct 1 04:26:41 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:26:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Album quiz In-Reply-To: <53342.98324.qm@web26912.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 07:40:22AM -0700, Ian Abrahams typed out: > Hmm, not as easy as it looks! > > Steve Bishop wrote: Pete Howe was the first person to get them all correct .................. > > http://www.amiwrong.com/music/albums/Hawkwind-trivia-quiz.shtml It's _Yuri Gagarin_ that's the problem. I only got it right by process of elimination, I know perfecetly well when it was *recorded*, but... Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 1 10:50:15 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:50:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: TREV In-Reply-To: Message-ID: please forgive(a post)....*if* I still owe your former associate for something, in my case it wasn't intentional, and I'm already on to a hopeful repair...... sorry about you own experience On 9/30/07, trev wrote: > > no > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike coleman" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:26 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: TREV > > > >I ripped Fee off > > I was just thinking of reaching her through Wallis > > guess that's one less karmic debt > > Trev if you've got a personal copy, can I buy a cdr??? > > > > > > On 9/30/07, trev wrote: > >> > >> i'm on all the tracks. i made the album for fee warner who ripped me > off > >> . > >> do not buy this album > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "mike coleman" > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:17 PM > >> Subject: Re: OFF: TREV > >> > >> > >> >I didn't report the retread as I know that isn't so notable but it > >> >looked > >> >to > >> > me like the 2 tracks with Ron (who has been heard from lately BTW), > >> > are/were > >> > standout originals, etc, etc.,...insofar as the Rick Welsh ones, yes, > >> now > >> > I > >> > have to look again and figure this crap out > >> > further: if anyone ever has any problem with something Judge sends > >> > you...contact him and he'll fix it...he goes nuts if soemthing screws > >> > up > >> > (but that almost never happens of course)...apparently the festy > bands > >> do > >> > a > >> > lot of CDR's, etc, etc....I still see a Love and Peace poster hanging > >> > right > >> > side up...FLIP IT!!!!!! > >> > On 9/27/07, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:30:41PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > *I don't have a couple tracks on a Steve Tooks Horns cd that also > >> >> includes > >> >> > Ron Tree on bass* > >> >> > *any comments and info welcomed* > >> >> > >> >> Ooh, I didn't know about that. It also includes Judge Trev > and > >> >> Rick Welch, but only on two tracks, and one retread Judge Trev's ICU > >> >> track, itself a retread Atomgods track and according to the page > where > >> I > >> >> learnt all this, which is *here*: > >> >> > >> >> http://www.stevetook.mercurymoon.co.uk/horns.html > >> >> > >> >> even when it was an Atomgods track it was actually a track > originally > >> >> written at the time the Judge was in Steve Took's Horns originally. > >> >> May > >> >> the circle remain unbroken, yours, > >> >> Jon (who has updated the file > which > >> >> will some day go to the web anew) > >> >> -- > >> >> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of > elephants?" > >> >> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > >> >> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 1 13:19:01 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:19:01 +0000 Subject: OEBs at 'Highway to Healthcare III' ( songlist from 9/30/07 ) Message-ID: These are the ones I remember...Peace, Mike tunes from Highway to Healthcare III, Crosswicks, New Jersey: September 30th, 2007 Sect AppealSmokstack LightningThe Red RoosterBlues with a FeelingWildwood BluesGot my mojo WorkinAround & AroundKing BeeI know you Rider On The Road Again The Last TimeRoute 66 lineup: Stewkey : vocals Russ T. Blades: drums Greg Elwell: guitar Mike Burro: guitar ps: the first photos from the gig are online at: http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger? http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Oct 1 15:04:41 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:04:41 -0400 Subject: OEBs at 'Highway to Healthcare III' ( songlist from 9/30/07 ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mike, Sounds like the set was a lot offun. Hopefully, we'll connect 1 of these days. Best wishes, Kaduflyer From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Oct 2 11:06:01 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:06:01 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops on YouTube: from 9/30/07 'Got my mojo Workin' ( with Stewkey ) Message-ID: Here is the first ever OEB YouTube video. It's the tune 'I Got my Mojo Workin', and it's form our gig on 9/30/07 Highway to Healthcare III,Tall Ceders Picnic Grove, Crosswicks New Jersey http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vr-ywsY3uXM Hope you all enjoy it..Peace, Mike PS: Special thanks to Greg Elwell for taking the time to put it together lineup: Stewkey ( Nazz ) : vocals Russ T. Blades ( Vince Martell Band, Vanilla Fudge ) : drums Greg Elwell: guitar Mike Burro : guitar/vocals _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Oct 2 14:14:03 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:14:03 +0000 Subject: [SLOTERDIJK-Pod] One Eyed Bishops on YouTube: 'The Red Rooster' is also now online In-Reply-To: Message-ID: here the url for 'The Red Rooster'. I haven't yet seen it myself...Mike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykfrJj9UfXw To: ir004728 at mindspring.com; boc-l at listserv.ispnetinc.net; cratylus7 at msn.com; dantilbury at yahoo.co.uk; f.renier at kennisnet.org; elgre at hotmail.com; greg.elwell at gmail.com; hawkwind at yahoogroups.com; headsmithuk at yahoo.co.uk; info at i-potatomusic.com; kevin.gardner at pindar.us.com; jawdiok at comcast.net; margaret at tait1959.fsnet.co.uk; soulventrus at yahoo.com; mrsmariac1 at msn.com; mw2 at oakham.rutland.sch.uk; sloterdijk at email.msn.com; moogyking at aol.com; nancymca at capital.net; nexus at panix.com; paulhirsh at talktalk.net; randomgeo at hotmail.com; rancity at comcast.net; woodsrainham at hotmail.com; ss7713 at msn.com; ss7713 at comcast.net; starrgazrr419 at yahoo.com; sloterdijk-pod at yahoogroups.com; spacerockers at yahoogroups.com; stewkeymusic at comcast.net; toddrundgren-groknrollutopia at yahoogroups.comFrom: Sloterdijk at msn.comDate: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:06:01 +0000Subject: [SLOTERDIJK-Pod] One Eyed Bishops on YouTube: from 9/30/07 'Got my mojo Workin' ( with Stewkey ) Here is the first ever OEB YouTube video. It's the tune 'I Got my Mojo Workin', and it's form our gig on 9/30/07Highway to Healthcare III,Tall Ceders Picnic Grove, Crosswicks New Jersey http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vr-ywsY3uXM Hope you all enjoy it..Peace, Mike PS: Special thanks to Greg Elwell for taking the time to put it together lineup: Stewkey ( Nazz ) : vocalsRuss T. Blades ( Vince Martell Band, Vanilla Fudge ) : drumsGreg Elwell: guitarMike Burro : guitar/vocals Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Get 'em! __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Links | Database | Polls | Members "One Is" Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 1 New MembersVisit Your Group Yahoo! News Odd News You won't believe it, but it's true Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central get help and provide feedback on Groups. 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Kaduflyer From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Oct 3 15:59:22 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:59:22 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK to perform 'Yule Gathering' show at New Jersey metal club December 28th 2007 Message-ID: Greetings friends,it is my pleasure to announce that SLOTERDIJK will perform a special 'Yule Gathering' showat the Cherrywood Rock Club on Friday, December 28, 2007. 1460 Blackwood-Clementon Rd.Clementon, NJ 08021 http://www.myspace.com/cherrywoodrock At this time we are not sure who the other acts will be how much the cover will be to get in. What we do know, is that we are planning to play what might be the heaviest set we have done, as we will be using a lineup that features three guitarists. Here is the lineup as it stands now: Mike Burro guitar/synths/drum programming/vocals http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 http://www.soundclick.com/sloterdijk http://www.garageband.com/artist/sloterdijkGreg Elwell guitar : http://www.brainstatik.com/cc111304sl1.movKevin Gardner (formerly of Glorian Blak ) guitar/keyboards (see video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu5NTTQfIygJeff Berry bass _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Oct 6 07:29:23 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 07:29:23 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock, Alchemical and Drool Trough shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com OCTOBER 6, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS Did you think I disappeared? I ran into major issues with my internet hosting service and had to switch, which took a few weeks. But the dust has settled and I?m in good hands now. In fact, if anyone needs a good reliable hosting service drop me a note and I?ll hook you up. I've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #185), The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #27), and Drool Trough Radio (show #67). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #185) White Hills ? ?Visions Of The Past, Present And Future? (from Heads On Fire) Atlantic Drone ? ?Mary Pickford Waking Up In A Burning Barn? (from Atlantic Drone) Lunar Dunes ? ?From Above? (from Above) Vermin Engine ? ?The Bomb Is God? (from Earth of the Scum) Vespero ? ?Rito? (from Rito) Sendelica ? ?Indrid Cold? (from Spaceman Bubblegum and Other Weird Tales from the Mercury Mind) Kalutaliksuak ? ?While He Sit In Ice Cracking A Whip Around? (from Kalutaliksuak) GDeVA ? ?Mechanism ? 32? (from Bubbles, Bubbles ) Mooch ? ?Abu Hureya? (from Postvorta/Starhenge) Blue Lily Commission - "Seraglio" (from Eastern Evening) Scattered Planets ? ?Wash Rinse Dry? (from Deep Space Psychosis) Uber Dramm ? ?Apathetic Bluesman? (from Uber Dramm) Astro Al ? ?Earthlihng Idiots? (from Pet Noizes) Harts Horn ? ?Squirmryrm? (from Pet Noizes) The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #27) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Space Rock, Progressive Rock and much much more. Dieter Born Zero Born Schliegel ? Space Caravan Troy Lukarilla ? Why Can?t I Get A Gig? Tess Arkells - Conscience Blue Lily Commission - Persia Cousin Silas ? Glass Ravine DJ Monkey ? Big Oil Dave Dill ? Left Behind Terry Munday - Nemesis Anton Barbeau ? I?m Always Offending My Sensitive Friends Nick Bensen ? No Resistance Peter Cooper - Wheel Adrian - Dreams Herboreah ? Schizoid Indiscipline Part II Don Campau & Mark Kissinger ? Man On A Mission Drool Trough Radio (show #67) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. Ons?gen Ensemble - " Hotto?zzoH" (from Hotto?zzoH) Helen Money ? ?Jackson? (from Helen Money) Kiss The Anus Of A Black Cat ? ?Turning Hegel On His Head? (from Turning Hegel On His Head 7? single) Picore ? ?La Teigne? (from L?helium Du Peuple) Vocabularinist ? ?Dust & Fragrance? (from Monkey Brains Controlling Robot Arms) Bret Hart ? ?Bless This Mess? (from Edge Surfing podcast site) Bret Hart ? ?Some Mill-Thoughts of Charlie Poole? (from Edge Surfing podcast site) Don Campau & Dino DiMuro ? ?Richard The Lion Hearted? (from Playdate) Robin O?Brien & Don Campau ? ?Our Father? (from The Way You Fall) Bronze Fawn ? ?Lumber? (from Lumber) Oddisea ? ?Fusing? (from Being and Feeling) J.C. Cinel ? ?Brush My Cymbals? (from Before My Eyes) Jack Conte ? ?Yeah Yeah Yeah? (from Nightmares and Daydreams) Friends ? ?Missing Person? (from Spangleland) Showstar ? ?Get Drunk? (from <.>) Cowbrain & Saw ? ?The Millions? (from Uncertain Hand) Divergent Future ? ?Except for the Sky? (From Rift) JDJ Band ? ?Go Go Girl? (from ?) Sam Barry ? ?Darkest Dream? (from Darkest Dream) Suzy Callahan ? ?I Built a House for Frank Lloyd Wright? (from Freedom Party for Insects) http://Aural-Innovations.com From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Oct 6 11:36:58 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:36:58 -0400 Subject: (Other): ALIEN PLANETSCAPES DOUG WALKER MEMORIAL JAM AVAILABLE NOW! Message-ID: Sorry for the marketing email but this is for a good cause. And btw... the Aural Innovations store is closed, but I'm committed to these Alien Planetscapes releases that make their music available and help send some money to the late Doug Walker's son, Evan. A new 2-CDR set recorded late 2006 and early 2007 by former members of Alien Planetscapes as a tribute to the late great Doug "Dr Synth" Walker. Chris Altenhoff of Alien Planetscapes made these available for sale by Aural Innovations, with ALL proceeds going to Doug's son Evan Walker. This is a NO-FRILLS package! Just 2 CDRs and credits. No artwork. But you get 108 minutes of free-wheeling and absolutely smoking all instrumental space rock jams. And it's all for a good cause. Get both CDs for $9 + $2 shipping in the U.S., $3 to Canada, and $5 to anywhere else in the world. Paypal to jkranitz at aural-innovations.com (Folks in the US who want to send a check or money order email me and I'll give you the info you need. In fact, that would be great as I save the Paypal fees and get more to Evan) Note that I've also got a few copies left of the Alien Planetscapes Live January 18, 1983 on WFMU radio left for $7 each, all proceeds of course going to Evan Walker. A VERY cool archival recording from Doug's early days. Any questions, email me at jkranitz at aural-innovations.com Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio & E-zine Aural-Innovations.com From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 8 11:10:37 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:10:37 +0000 Subject: New links to One Eyed Bishops videos on YOUTUBE Message-ID: Greetings friends, we had a few problems with our initial video offerings. Greg wanted to get them out there as quickly as possible, but then went back and deleted them in order to some re-editing. I trust you'll all find these a bit better..I honestly don't know which tune each link will take you to, but one you find one, just click on 'more by this user' and you should be able to see them all. From what Greg tells me he has 4 tunes up from our September 30th 'Highway to Healthcare III' show in Crosswicks New Jersey. Although it's tought to tell from the footage, there were 389 bikes in voleved in the rally that day, and a good amount of money was donated to Deborah Heart & Lung Center, which sponsores the event. Our lineup was: Mike Burro: guitar/vocals Stewkey vocals Greg Elwell guitar Russ T. Blades drums The tunes available are: I got my mojo workin Blues with a feeling The Red Rooster On the road again here are the links: Yo Boss, Here are the links to the new videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iOwkdAeD1g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtlfIeMRPPA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS3Z0OLZW64 -greg _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!? Play Star Shuffle:? the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Oct 8 12:12:33 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:12:33 -0700 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? Message-ID: Haven't seen any posts in some time. Am I the only one in the dark or is there nothing afoot? Gary --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 8 12:54:35 2007 From: heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM (tim elliott) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:54:35 -0400 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: <296809.21145.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess things are slow right now On 10/8/07, gary shindler wrote: > > Haven't seen any posts in some time. Am I the only one in the dark or is > there nothing afoot? > Gary > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who > knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > -- tim 8>)... http://heathcliff13.blogspot.com From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Mon Oct 8 12:54:16 2007 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (Hawkfan) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:54:16 +0100 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: <296809.21145.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Nothing afoot here either! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: 08 October 2007 17:13 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? Haven't seen any posts in some time. Am I the only one in the dark or is there nothing afoot? Gary --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Mon Oct 8 14:50:50 2007 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:50:50 +0200 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: <8809f5fb0710080954y622c6ac3o121802121ec48c33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:54:35 -0400, tim elliott wrote > I guess things are slow right now Yeah, I don't suppose we all just found a life ;-) Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Oct 8 15:07:27 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:07:27 -0700 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: <20071008184926.M19155@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: As crazy as work has been I wouldn't have much time to read posts as it is. Arjan Hulsebos wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:54:35 -0400, tim elliott wrote > I guess things are slow right now Yeah, I don't suppose we all just found a life ;-) Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 8 16:35:08 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:35:08 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops 'On the Road Again' video on YouTUBe Message-ID: Hi Friends, this url did not appear on my original announcement. It's the link ot the youtube video of The One Eyed Bishops w/ Stewkey doing the old Canned Heat tune 'On The Road Again'....Cheers! Mike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aEe0ECuvys&mode=user&search= _________________________________________________________________ Boo!?Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Oct 8 18:17:44 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:17:44 -0400 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: <20071008184926.M19155@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 08:50:50PM +0200, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:54:35 -0400, tim elliott wrote > > I guess things are slow right now > > Yeah, I don't suppose we all just found a life ;-) List postings are being drowned in emails extolling the advantages of Megadik. Steve From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Oct 8 23:07:13 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:07:13 -0400 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been in the hospital with a major migraine attack, so I assume the list is just quiet for now. Greetings to all, Kaduflyer From pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Oct 9 03:28:03 2007 From: pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:28:03 -0600 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: <20071008184926.M19155@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: An update for me, folx. After job hunting for 3 weeks, with absolutely appalling results , 15 applications, 2 responses, I've gone back to driving cab for the largest (and busiest) company here in Boise. I'm still getting used to it-12 hr shifts, at three to four times the pace I was used to.. Wow. I think once I manage to get used to this, it'll be pretty good. It only took me 2 days to get the rhythm of the dispatch., But making money sure helps!!! Not only that, after purchasing a FM modulator for my cd based mp3 player, I have tunes all shift!!! yummy!! Keep rockin'! Pam Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:54:35 -0400, tim elliott wrote > >> I guess things are slow right now >> > > Yeah, I don't suppose we all just found a life ;-) > > Gr, > > Arjan H > > -------------------------------- > Rock in the 70ies: > substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration > > > From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 9 04:18:38 2007 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:18:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: <20071008221744.GA1178@plutonia.com> Message-ID: Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: 10th October 2007 The Komedia 44 Gardner Street Brighton BN1 1UN (supporting Space Ritual) 28th October 2007 The Underworld 174 Camden High Street London NW1 0NE (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans Pistols and Earthling Society) 23rd November 2007 The Old Blue Last 38 Great Eastern Street Shoreditch London (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) 25th January 2008 The Bull and Gate 389 Kentish Town Road London NW5 2TJ (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) 1st March 2008 Born To Go Club Club 85 74 Whinbush Road Hitchin Hertfordshire England SG5 1PZ (Headlining, with support from Xenon Codex) There are more dates to be slotted in but they are not confirmed yet. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Oct 9 04:20:02 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 04:20:02 -0400 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: <470B2D83.6000300@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hi Pam, When you mentioned the hours you're keeping with work, my first hope was in fact that you have good tunes to listen to while working. I'm sure you've heard all about the reputation of Boston drivers, between the traffic and other drivers driving around here for a living must be a real drag. I use a transportation system for people who have trouble navigating the city by public transportation, and I know they don't pay the drivers much. The turn-over rate is extremely high, and the only way for these people to make a decent wage is to work 70 or 80 hours a week. Most of the drivers are foreign, and they're the ones who make the system work. The whole system is automated, and the computer doesn't take into account things like traffic, or having to wait on other clients. Generally it works pretty well. I wish you the best of luck with your driving gig, and hope you get some generous tips. Beware of Death Traps, and Curb crawlers. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Oct 9 04:40:35 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 04:40:35 -0400 Subject: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: <866440.59413.qm@web23211.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For some reason I got 4 copies of your message, I'm assuming it's a problem on my end, the computer often does this to me, I hope your tour goes really well, and you have 4 times as much fun as planned, and have 4 times the amount of people anticipated. I'd really like to be there, but it's a long swim from Boston. Even if I started swimming now I wouldn't make it. When I can, I swim for 3 hours a few times a week. I just space out, and keep going so that it's become as easy as walking. I'm not a really strong swimmer, but I enjoy it. I'll be interested in hearing about the shows, and wish you the very best. Fly on, Kaduflyer From pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Oct 9 12:04:23 2007 From: pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:04:23 -0600 Subject: Is the list down or am I off it? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks. I got a new burner for my relic of a computer, so am happily setting up some compilation discs (albums, rather than songs) I can put up to 20 albums on a disc, therefore not having to even change it for the shift !!! Although, I have the tendency to mix up stuff that's miles apart in tunes types:) fun! I will watch out for the death traps & curb crawlers!! lol Pam vzenv14m wrote: > Hi Pam, > When you mentioned the hours you're keeping with work, my first hope was in > fact that you have good tunes to listen to while working. I'm sure you've > heard all about the reputation of Boston drivers, between the traffic and > other drivers driving around here for a living must be a real drag. I use a > transportation system for people who have trouble navigating the city by > public transportation, and I know they don't pay the drivers much. The > turn-over rate is extremely high, and the only way for these people to make > a decent wage is to work 70 or 80 hours a week. Most of the drivers are > foreign, and they're the ones who make the system work. The whole system is > automated, and the computer doesn't take into account things like traffic, > or having to wait on other clients. Generally it works pretty well. > I wish you the best of luck with your driving gig, and hope you get some > generous tips. Beware of Death Traps, and Curb crawlers. > > Kaduflyer > > > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Oct 10 14:35:59 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:35:59 +0000 Subject: Downliners Sect videos on YouTube Message-ID: Greetings friends, many of you may know that The Downliners Sect are one my all time favorite bands. Well today I uncovered three videos of the sect on YouTube, so I'm passing them your way. Cheers! Mike Burro Downliners Sect videos on YouTube!!!! Check em out!!! 'Little Egypt' http://youtube.com/watch?v=4rGZlrg3kPc ( classic sect with Terry Gibson/Clemson ) 'Bloodhound' by Larry Bright from Madrid, Spain 2007 http://youtube.com/watch?v=ikdoDUqXZeg Twickenham Music Day 2006 http://youtube.com/watch?v=x-tbYtT_QlA _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Oct 13 20:28:28 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:28:28 -0400 Subject: (OFF): Aural Innovations: New Kozmik Ken, Alchemical Radio, and Drool Trough Radio Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com OCTOBER 14, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've just uploaded new shows from The Kozmik Ken Experience (October 2007), The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #28), and Drool Trough Radio (show #68). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html The Kozmik Ken Experience (October 2007 - 2 Part Show) Part 1 Spirits of the Earth - "In a Field" (from Myspace download) Earthling Society - "Wrong" (from Tears of Andromeda-Black Sails Against the Sky) Electric Orange - "Span 5" (from Morbus) Unimother 27 - "Pray With Me" (from Escape From the Ephemeral Mind) Litmus - "Under the Sign" (from Planetfall) Skomm - "Nice Ghengis" (from Myspace download) Zone Six - "Hopscotch" (from Live Wired 2004) The Setting Son - "I'm Down" (from The Setting Son) Part 2 Peyote Mothership - "Mary Jane" (from First Landing) Dragontears - "Doubtstains" (from 2000 Micrograms From Home) O-Head - "Delta Celphi" (from Steps Across the Cortex) Urban Spacemen - "Rising Light" (from Plainsongs) Space Pirates - "Kaptain Kaputnik's Holiday" (from Avast Byond) Ectogram - "Sycamore Rash" (from Tall Things Falling) Dream Machine - "Invisible Maze" (from Logia) Psychik Atters - "Made in Sheffield" (from Mystic Minutes II) The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #28) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, adventurous Pop, and much much more. (Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill) Second Sight - October Carl Burnett - Crazy, Crazy, Crazy DJ Monkey - Messages Linda McLean - Choose That Road John Danley - Deconstructing Gregory Barsamian Paul Bullock - Shining Star Patrick Porter - Cordwood And Spark John Danley - Sartori Patrick Porter - Colorado Fran Gray - Ancient Of Days Cousin Silas - Window Spinnerettes Carl Burnett - Suffer Mercury Boy - Keep It Real The Forresters - Skin Deep Litmus - Twin Star Tribe - The Julia Tree Drool Trough Radio (show #68) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. Strings of Consciousness - "Crystallize It" (from Our Moon Is Full) Charles Rice Goff III - "The Old Maid's Last Hope" (from Sweat On A Blacksmith's Apron) Life In A Blender - "Whole Thing Down" (from The Heart is a Small Balloon) R.Stevie Moore - "If I Fell Down" (from Moored) R.Stevie Moore - "Very Bad Man From Iraq" (from Shrigley Field) What's He Building In There? - "A Walk On The Beach" (from What's He Building In There?) Deathsquad - "Interlude: A Croydon Tale" (from The Crustacean Sessions) 9 on Bali - "Sanur" (from Sanur) Hamadryad - "Polaroid Vendetta" (from Live in France 2006) Junk Farm - "Master-Sync" (from Ugly Little Thing) Qwaarn - "Fore" (from Aberrations) Dimension X - "Cordwood" (from Implications of a Genetic Defense) Spaced Out - "A Freak Az" (from Live at the Crescendo Festival) Michael Hensley - "Take Me Away" (from Fire Behind Me) http://Aural-Innovations.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Oct 14 18:16:05 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:16:05 -0500 Subject: HW content code: $1,627.20 Message-ID: Congradulations!!! while I step outside of life's heavy hand to celebrate the new owner of the BBC 1972 transcription LP!!!!!! I was worried it might not get it's full value, but I kept faith and I see it did had I accepted the offer on mine I would have got rippped off maybe a friend got it (won it, on the auction) maybe someone on here at any rate, carnk that sucker up, it holds it's value!!! it can peel the top layer of the head off!!! mike c From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Oct 14 19:24:05 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:24:05 -0500 Subject: (off) calling Message-ID: Bill Stewart From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 15 06:30:50 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:30:50 +0100 Subject: HW content code: $1,627.20 In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > Congradulations!!! > while I step outside of life's heavy hand to celebrate the new owner of the > BBC 1972 transcription LP!!!!!! > I was worried it might not get it's full value, but I kept faith and I see > it did > had I accepted the offer on mine I would have got rippped off > maybe a friend got it (won it, on the auction) > maybe someone on here > at any rate, carnk that sucker up, it holds it's value!!! > it can peel the top layer of the head off!!! Did this come up on ebay or something? How much did it go for? FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 15 08:51:42 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:51:42 -0500 Subject: HW content code: $1,627.20 In-Reply-To: <200710151030.l9FAUoXQ021946@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: YES (IN ANSWER TO fOFP'S QUESTION ABOUT BBC LP ON EBAY AND IT'S FINAL PRICE) $1,627.20 GOING TO SEE PT ON THE 28TH IF ANYONE HAS INGENIOUS METHOD OF CLEANING FINGERPRINTS PERFECTLY OFF BLACK CD INSERTS, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE THE KNOWLEDGE, AS IT STANDS, I AM DRIVEN FURTHER INSANE BY THIS..... On 10/15/07, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > > Congradulations!!! > > while I step outside of life's heavy hand to celebrate the new owner of > the > > BBC 1972 transcription LP!!!!!! > > I was worried it might not get it's full value, but I kept faith and I > see > > it did > > had I accepted the offer on mine I would have got rippped off > > maybe a friend got it (won it, on the auction) > > maybe someone on here > > at any rate, carnk that sucker up, it holds it's value!!! > > it can peel the top layer of the head off!!! > > Did this come up on ebay or something? How much did it go for? > > FoFP > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 15 08:58:34 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:58:34 -0500 Subject: HW-pewter Doremi Shield Message-ID: Jim Lascko so far won't accept payment for the KOS 45 i decided I couldn't live without (which btw, is just a written-on copy, not anything special other than most of you probably don't have it, since that single doesn't indicate sides from what I can tell) anyway, if anyone wants the Griffin Doremi pewter shiled, it's on eBay, I'm doing my job here, it is item number:: 330176351764 i believe it came with a cd copy of "undisclosed files" attached to the back if you get it, don't drop it on your foot From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 15 09:45:55 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:45:55 -0500 Subject: HW_more on Beeb albums Message-ID: Mike- if you put yours up you'll get more than 800 pounds c'mon!!! further, I have a pristine BBC Stiv Hillside Village LP with all cues, inserts, cool pic, etc, from 79......I grabbed that one as I went running out the door If anyone knows the current value estimate, I'd like to know....sadly I left the 77 one, but it wasn't strict mint like this one mc From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 15 14:23:13 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:23:13 +0000 Subject: FREE show: October 20th with NAZZ, Vinny Martell ( Vanilla Fudge ) members of Blood Sweat & Tears, C Message-ID: see the link below and check out the info for C.A.R.E. Concert http://www.maranathanj.org/index.html _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook ? together at last. ?Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Oct 15 14:24:21 2007 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:24:21 EDT Subject: HW_more on Beeb albums Message-ID: I've got one for Led Zep, somewhere, circa 1974. Condition is 3 steps below poor:(. Damn!!! should have taken care of my vinyl. bill ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 17 10:36:14 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:36:14 -0500 Subject: (off) POLITICS in USA with a slant on smoking Message-ID: I am transplanting some issues regarding tobacco use and the politics therof, because it is a very close-to-heart situation with me....meanwhile I am working on bringing you your FoFP back *the first:* Just know that Smoking is counter productive. It has cost corporations millions of hours in productivity. Since the United States of America, Canada and Mexico is really the UNITED CORPORATIONS OF AMERICA, the working class are just subjects to the Corporations. If smokers are going to smoke then the Corporations are going to get there money's worth from these smoker subjects through taxes. The UNIONS were the working class's only representation in Washington DC. Reagan killed the unions and their clout in Washington DC in the 80's. Who better would know the union's power in DC than Reagan, he was once president of the Actors Guild. (actors union). Since then it has been higher prices and lower wages. Yet that was not enough for the USC of A (United Corporations of America), they demanded productivity be increased from 80% to 150%. Considering that smoking is a habit, it will take time to break smoking habit through manipulation and poplar opinion (democracy). So to make up for loss of productivity punish smokers through higher taxes. Bottom line: If you are going to smoke you are going to pay. *the second, which made me think of a little band from Devonshire:* Although I rarely post here, I had to respond to the link. Some very good quotes, it is actually pretty amazing when you look at the authors of these quotes, a who's who of thinking people and great Americans. Question authority, question government, question organized reilgion, question yourself. All healty things. One of my favorites, from now deceased comedian Bill Hicks: I smoke, if this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your F#@$ing mouth. From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Oct 17 10:58:08 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:58:08 -0700 Subject: (off) POLITICS in USA with a slant on smoking In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710170736x28405972s96fa587bb41c2490@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Bill Hicks would be grilling these times. DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: I am transplanting some issues regarding tobacco use and the politics therof, because it is a very close-to-heart situation with me....meanwhile I am working on bringing you your FoFP back *the first:* Just know that Smoking is counter productive. It has cost corporations millions of hours in productivity. Since the United States of America, Canada and Mexico is really the UNITED CORPORATIONS OF AMERICA, the working class are just subjects to the Corporations. If smokers are going to smoke then the Corporations are going to get there money's worth from these smoker subjects through taxes. The UNIONS were the working class's only representation in Washington DC. Reagan killed the unions and their clout in Washington DC in the 80's. Who better would know the union's power in DC than Reagan, he was once president of the Actors Guild. (actors union). Since then it has been higher prices and lower wages. Yet that was not enough for the USC of A (United Corporations of America), they demanded productivity be increased from 80% to 150%. Considering that smoking is a habit, it will take time to break smoking habit through manipulation and poplar opinion (democracy). So to make up for loss of productivity punish smokers through higher taxes. Bottom line: If you are going to smoke you are going to pay. *the second, which made me think of a little band from Devonshire:* Although I rarely post here, I had to respond to the link. Some very good quotes, it is actually pretty amazing when you look at the authors of these quotes, a who's who of thinking people and great Americans. Question authority, question government, question organized reilgion, question yourself. All healty things. One of my favorites, from now deceased comedian Bill Hicks: I smoke, if this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your F#@$ing mouth. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Oct 17 13:24:48 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:24:48 +0100 Subject: (off) POLITICS in USA with a slant on smoking Message-ID: the enemy of democracy is capitalism discuss with particular reference to president Isenhower's speech on same (1950's) (5000 words...cough!) and make sure that they're in by monday ----- Original Message ----- From: "gary shindler" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: (off) POLITICS in USA with a slant on smoking > Bill Hicks would be grilling these times. > > DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: I am transplanting some > issues regarding tobacco use and the politics > therof, because it is a very close-to-heart situation with me....meanwhile > I > am working on bringing you your FoFP back > *the first:* > Just know that Smoking is counter productive. It has cost corporations > millions of hours in productivity. Since the United States of America, > Canada and Mexico is really the UNITED CORPORATIONS OF AMERICA, the > working > class are just subjects to the Corporations. If smokers are going to smoke > then the Corporations are going to get there money's worth from these > smoker > subjects through taxes. > The UNIONS were the working class's only representation in Washington DC. > Reagan killed the unions and their clout in Washington DC in the 80's. Who > better would know the union's power in DC than Reagan, he was once > president > of the Actors Guild. (actors union). > Since then it has been higher prices and lower wages. Yet that was not > enough for the USC of A (United Corporations of America), they demanded > productivity be increased from 80% to 150%. Considering that smoking is a > habit, it will take time to break smoking habit through manipulation and > poplar opinion (democracy). So to make up for loss of productivity punish > smokers through higher taxes. > Bottom line: If you are going to smoke you are going to pay. > *the second, which made me think of a little band from Devonshire:* > Although I rarely post here, I had to respond to the link. Some very good > quotes, it is actually pretty amazing when you look at the authors of > these > quotes, a who's who of thinking people and great Americans. Question > authority, question government, question organized reilgion, question > yourself. All healty things. One of my favorites, from now deceased > comedian > Bill Hicks: I smoke, if this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at > the world in which we live and shut your F#@$ing mouth. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Oct 17 15:41:30 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:41:30 +0100 Subject: on/a new song Message-ID: The (lost) Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism (country and western song) Don't you know they're cryin' Don't you know they're cryin Cryin' in the streets Cryin' in the streets Don't you know they're cryin' lord Don't you know they're cryin lord They're cryin' in defeat They're cryin in defeat Talkin to you youngs Talkin to you youngs Who's fate is now complete Who's fate is now complete Say how can you run boy Say how can you run boy When life could be so sweet When life could be so sweet Talkin' of the ghosts Talkin of the ghosts Who died in 44 Who died in the World War Talkin' of the people Who's minds still remain free Who cry at what they see Who cry at what they see Listen to our heros Who died to set us free Who weren't afraid to see Who weren't afraid to see Listen to our heros Listen to our heros Like Lennon and Ghandij Like Churchill and the Greeks I'm talkin' of the end Of democracy The last hope of the free The last hope of the free Talkin of the end Lord Of democracy They're cryin in the streets They're cryin' in the streets The capital of power It aint like you or me It cannot feel or see It cannot feel or see The capital of power Will not allow the free To feel or live or be To feel or live or be When Mother Earth herself Is screamin' out no more Is shouting out no more There aint no room for more The one upon the white horse Will fall upon the floor Will fall upon the floor Copyright 2007 Trev Thoms (Judge) yes, very good thoms, now perhaps you might explain why you've been late every day this week? ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: (off) POLITICS in USA with a slant on smoking > the enemy of democracy is capitalism > > discuss with particular reference to president Isenhower's speech on same > (1950's) > > (5000 words...cough!) > > and make sure that they're in by monday > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gary shindler" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: (off) POLITICS in USA with a slant on smoking > > >> Bill Hicks would be grilling these times. >> >> DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: I am transplanting some >> issues regarding tobacco use and the politics >> therof, because it is a very close-to-heart situation with >> me....meanwhile I >> am working on bringing you your FoFP back >> *the first:* >> Just know that Smoking is counter productive. It has cost corporations >> millions of hours in productivity. Since the United States of America, >> Canada and Mexico is really the UNITED CORPORATIONS OF AMERICA, the >> working >> class are just subjects to the Corporations. If smokers are going to >> smoke >> then the Corporations are going to get there money's worth from these >> smoker >> subjects through taxes. >> The UNIONS were the working class's only representation in Washington DC. >> Reagan killed the unions and their clout in Washington DC in the 80's. >> Who >> better would know the union's power in DC than Reagan, he was once >> president >> of the Actors Guild. (actors union). >> Since then it has been higher prices and lower wages. Yet that was not >> enough for the USC of A (United Corporations of America), they demanded >> productivity be increased from 80% to 150%. Considering that smoking is a >> habit, it will take time to break smoking habit through manipulation and >> poplar opinion (democracy). So to make up for loss of productivity punish >> smokers through higher taxes. >> Bottom line: If you are going to smoke you are going to pay. >> *the second, which made me think of a little band from Devonshire:* >> Although I rarely post here, I had to respond to the link. Some very good >> quotes, it is actually pretty amazing when you look at the authors of >> these >> quotes, a who's who of thinking people and great Americans. Question >> authority, question government, question organized reilgion, question >> yourself. All healty things. One of my favorites, from now deceased >> comedian >> Bill Hicks: I smoke, if this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at >> the world in which we live and shut your F#@$ing mouth. >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 18 07:37:44 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:37:44 +0100 Subject: on/a new song In-Reply-To: trev's message of Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:41:30 +0100 Message-ID: trev writes: > The (lost) Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism (country and western > song) > Talkin to you youngs > Talkin to you youngs > Who's fate is now complete ^^^^^ Whose. > Listen to our heros ^^^^^ Heroes. > It aint like you or me ^^^^ ain't Mike "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves, but particularly likes the shooting" Holmes From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 18 08:42:43 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:42:43 +0100 Subject: on/a new song Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: on/a new song > trev writes: > >> The (lost) Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism (country and western >> song) >> Talkin to you youngs >> Talkin to you youngs >> Who's fate is now complete > ^^^^^ > > Whose. > >> Listen to our heros > ^^^^^ > > Heroes. > >> It aint like you or me > ^^^^ > > ain't > > > Mike "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves, but particularly likes the shooting" > Holmes > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 18 08:46:35 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:46:35 +0100 Subject: on/a new song Message-ID: yea but yea but it's artistic license to more accurately portray the country and western idiom cough! shakespear did it why can't i eh eh eh eh know-all ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: on/a new song > trev writes: > >> The (lost) Battle Between Democracy and Capitalism (country and western >> song) >> Talkin to you youngs >> Talkin to you youngs >> Who's fate is now complete > ^^^^^ > > Whose. > >> Listen to our heros > ^^^^^ > > Heroes. > >> It aint like you or me > ^^^^ > > ain't > > > Mike "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves, but particularly likes the shooting" > Holmes > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Oct 18 08:58:44 2007 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:58:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: on/a new song In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 18 Oct 2007, at 1:46 PM, trev wrote: > to more accurately portray the country and western idiom More accurately to portray Cheers, Paul "You can split my infinitive when you pry it from my cold, dead hands" Mather. ;-) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Thu Oct 18 10:11:46 2007 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:11:46 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: on/a new song In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:58:44 +0100, Paul Mather wrote > On 18 Oct 2007, at 1:46 PM, trev wrote: > > > to more accurately portray the country and western idiom > > More accurately to portray > > Cheers, > > Paul "You can split my infinitive when you pry it from my cold, dead > hands" Mather. Good grief, what medication y'all been on? > ;-) Ah, OK, at least one was a funny pill. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 18 09:30:27 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:30:27 +0100 Subject: on/a new song Message-ID: yeabut yeabut i talk cockanese just like shakespear must have (done) anyway, where's your essay? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: OFF: Re: on/a new song > On 18 Oct 2007, at 1:46 PM, trev wrote: > >> to more accurately portray the country and western idiom > > More accurately to portray > > Cheers, > > Paul "You can split my infinitive when you pry it from my cold, dead > hands" Mather. > > ;-) > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 18 09:47:38 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:47:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: on/a new song In-Reply-To: Arjan Hulsebos's message of Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: Arjan Hulsebos writes: > > Paul "You can split my infinitive when you pry it from my cold, dead > > hands" Mather. > Good grief, what medication y'all been on? We're putting the "E" into apostrophe. FoFP From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Thu Oct 18 12:25:45 2007 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:25:45 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: on/a new song In-Reply-To: <200710181347.l9IDlc5m028798@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:47:38 +0100, M Holmes wrote > Arjan Hulsebos writes: > > > > Paul "You can split my infinitive when you pry it from my cold, dead > > > hands" Mather. > > > Good grief, what medication y'all been on? > > We're putting the "E" into apostrophe. The crux of the biscuit, alright. Gr, Arjan H -------------------------------- Rock in the 70ies: substance inhalation, hotel devastation, and amplifier obliteration From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Oct 20 08:43:43 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:43:43 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock, Alchemical, And Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com OCTOBER 20, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #186), The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #29), and The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #50). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #186) Jet Jaguar - "The Last Kings Of Space" (from Space Anthem) Bad Liquor Pond - "Waves of Nightengales (Verse Three) Fuzz Unlimited - "Florida Tags" (from Take A Hit) Census of Hallucinations - "The World's Transfiguration"/"Don't Do It" (from Waylaid On The Pathway To Oblivion) Space Debris - "Mountain" (from Into the Sun) Man From M.A.R.S. - "Reluctant Astronaut" (from Tales Of A Reluctant Astronaut) Noidz - "Alienoidz Theme" (from Water World) Universal - "10000 Miles" (from Recordings 1987-1989) Clear Blue Sky - "Gateway to the Seventh Dimension" (from Gateway to the Seventh Dimension) Xai Von Face - "City Of Temples" (unreleased) Strange New Worlds - "Black Sorceress" (from Exploring the Space-Funk Continuum, Volume 2) Doug Yule - "After The Fall Redux" (from The Ptolemaic Terrascope Summer/Fall 2007 CD) Mushroom - unreleased secret treat Craig de Maio - "Planetary Chit-Chat" (from Craig de Maio) Gravanzia - "Discordheed" (from Doom to the Doom Men) Alien Planetscapes - CD 2, track 2 (excerpt) (from Doug Walker Memorial Jam) The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #29) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, adventurous Pop, and much much more. (Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill) DJ Monkey - U-Boat Don Campau & Eric Wallack - Salt Of The Earth Taba - Dreamland Steppin' In It - The Lodge Dieter Born Zero Born Schliegel - Wonder Patrick Porter - Cigarette Lighter Finder Nick Toone - The Forest Of Brethill Paradox One - Yap, Yap, Yap Troy Lukarilla - Compulsion Tony Winn - Satan's Zoo MC Ear - Priest The Clumsy Lovers - Highland Skip The New York Reggae Collective - Nuclear War The Handsome Donkeys - Scarborough Fair Cheap Wine - Reckless Danielle Brusaschetto- Poesia Totale Dei Muscoli Lamp Of The Universe - Tantra Asana John Danley - The Ballad Of Marcia Trimble 1966 - 1975 The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #50) The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown was created to give an audio spotlight to the exciting improvisational, experimental, and general avant-garde rock & jazz we receive in the Aural Innovations mailbox. Hugh Hopper - "On The Spot" (from Numero D'Vol) Soft Machine Legacy - "In The Back Room" (from Steam) Microblind Harvestmen - "Firing the Bush" (from Songs & Instrumentals From Death Bottom Slide) Michael Vlatkovich Quartet - "Once in a Blue Moon a Decent Wolf Comes Along" (from AliveBuquerque) Matt Weston - "Holler" (From Holler) The Fantastic Merlins - "It Would Seem" (from Look Around) Gnomus - Kolik" (from Diagnosis) Helen Money - "I'll See You In Hell" (from Helen Money) Bitrate - "Disinformed" (from Satiated With Simulacra) Gustavo Aguilar - "RoCaMaYoHa" (from Unsettled On An Old Sense of Place) Kioku - "Pinari" (from Both Far And Near) Blues Control - "Migration" (from Blues Control) Vole - tracks 2 & 4 (from Vole Radio 1) http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 22 11:35:13 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:35:13 +0100 Subject: Greasy Truckers 3CD Message-ID: Got this from C&D Records today. It's in a very tasty double-CD box with the same cover art front and back as the LP. There's a CD-sized booklet inside the case. This contains a full tracklist for each band (Man, Brinsley Schwartz and Hawkwind) plus some potted histories of the bands and the gigs. All we'd previusly had for Hawkwind from this gig were Master of the Universe and Born To Go from the Greasy Truckers double-LP and Silver Machine, which actually appeared on the Glastonbury fayre triple-LP in its original form, with lyrics sung by Calvert, before being edited and the vocals overlaid by Lemmy to produce Hawkwind's classic hit single. The blurb reports that the gig is recorded in full on this set from the original 8-track recording. So from that period in history when the Hawkwind space cadets were about to graduate and be assigned their full Space Ritual mission, we have now added: You Shouldn't Do That The Awakening Paranoia Earth Calling Welcome to the Future Brainstorm (jam) Brainstorm is reported to be an instrumental jam which would later evolve into the track we all know and love. I'd like to give you a review, but the truth is I'm at work and haven't heard it yet. I'm rather looking forward to it though... FoFP From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Oct 22 11:50:55 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:50:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: <866440.59413.qm@web23211.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > 28th October 2007 > The Underworld > 174 Camden High Street > London > NW1 0NE > (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > Pistols and Earthling Society) > > 23rd November 2007 > The Old Blue Last > 38 Great Eastern Street > Shoreditch > London > (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) > > 25th January 2008 > The Bull and Gate > 389 Kentish Town Road > London > NW5 2TJ > (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) All of these are good news but those I've left in especially good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 12:08:51 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:08:51 -0500 Subject: LOOT Message-ID: PLEASE SEND THE LOOT (GREAT SPEAKIN' btw) AGAIN, JUST DOIN' JOB From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Oct 22 12:22:01 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:22:01 -0400 Subject: LOOT In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710220908n35efed76p36528f4168fe86fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ha? I'll call. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 12:41:11 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:41:11 -0500 Subject: (off): LOOT Message-ID: On 10/22/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > ha? I'll call. > you may thank our dear Norwegian friend, for giving me a deal on your typically always late from D.R. Animal, birthday gift.... it'll make ya wanna sliiiiiiiillllllllllll-uh From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 12:46:31 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:46:31 -0500 Subject: (off) LOOT Message-ID: ooops, make that: "it'll make ya wanna smiiiiiiiiiiilllllllll-uh and I haven't even popped my morning benzo's yet and even though every member of this list is in reality a close personal friend, it might be polite to announce that Blind Chick(TM), is getting turned on to NEU 1 and 2, Hawkwind 99/74 partee', and Kraftwerk 1 for good measure S.S.S. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Oct 22 12:46:32 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:46:32 -0400 Subject: (off): LOOT In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710220941s1457b351lde56cccb4e76c26d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: it'll make ya wanna sliiiiiiiillllllllllll ha? call? From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Oct 22 12:53:40 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:53:40 -0400 Subject: (off) LOOT In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710220946g702a2809n38b09b7c71b8cc7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: far out From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Oct 22 13:12:18 2007 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:12:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: <20071022155055.GA3125@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: The lean four piece approach it is. Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > 28th October 2007 > The Underworld > 174 Camden High Street > London > NW1 0NE > (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > Pistols and Earthling Society) > > 23rd November 2007 > The Old Blue Last > 38 Great Eastern Street > Shoreditch > London > (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) > > 25th January 2008 > The Bull and Gate > 389 Kentish Town Road > London > NW5 2TJ > (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) All of these are good news but those I've left in especially good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 14:40:09 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:40:09 -0500 Subject: HW) blame Don Henley Message-ID: Mick Slattery found himself facing a physical confrontation with my friend the other nite.... either he knows ALL the broom-closets and storage rooms, or he may have a cloak of invisibility sss From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 15:01:10 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:01:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates Message-ID: and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars who don't turn up. yes - that's right - no one loves me! AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS TO MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR http://www.judgetrev.com but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... no one...no one... all alone abandoned left to die in the cold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > The lean four piece approach it is. > > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, > 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > > > >> 28th October 2007 >> The Underworld >> 174 Camden High Street >> London >> NW1 0NE >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >> Pistols and Earthling Society) >> >> 23rd November 2007 >> The Old Blue Last >> 38 Great Eastern Street >> Shoreditch >> London >> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) >> >> 25th January 2008 >> The Bull and Gate >> 389 Kentish Town Road >> London >> NW5 2TJ >> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) > > > > All of these are good news but those I've left in especially > good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will > these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 15:09:52 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:09:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: no-one because what we found in real-time isn't anyone at all rock steady On 10/22/07, trev wrote: > > and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are > star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars who > don't turn up. > > yes - that's right - no one loves me! > > AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS > TO > MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS > EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN > RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR > http://www.judgetrev.com > > but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... > > no one...no one... > > all alone > > abandoned > > left to die in the cold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > > > > The lean four piece approach it is. > > > > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct > 09, > > 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > > > > > > > >> 28th October 2007 > >> The Underworld > >> 174 Camden High Street > >> London > >> NW1 0NE > >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > >> Pistols and Earthling Society) > >> > >> 23rd November 2007 > >> The Old Blue Last > >> 38 Great Eastern Street > >> Shoreditch > >> London > >> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) > >> > >> 25th January 2008 > >> The Bull and Gate > >> 389 Kentish Town Road > >> London > >> NW5 2TJ > >> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) > > > > > > > > All of these are good news but those I've left in especially > > good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will > > these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > > From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Oct 22 15:24:24 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:24:24 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind show pics Message-ID: A while back, someone posted a site that had tons of great pics from a recent Hawkwind shows, they were especially good at capturing the light show. Now I can't find it. Anyone have that link?? Thanks! Steve From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Oct 22 16:37:52 2007 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:37:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am sure that there is someone out there who loves you! trev wrote: and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars who don't turn up. yes - that's right - no one loves me! AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS TO MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR http://www.judgetrev.com but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... no one...no one... all alone abandoned left to die in the cold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > The lean four piece approach it is. > > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, > 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > > > >> 28th October 2007 >> The Underworld >> 174 Camden High Street >> London >> NW1 0NE >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >> Pistols and Earthling Society) >> >> 23rd November 2007 >> The Old Blue Last >> 38 Great Eastern Street >> Shoreditch >> London >> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) >> >> 25th January 2008 >> The Bull and Gate >> 389 Kentish Town Road >> London >> NW5 2TJ >> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) > > > > All of these are good news but those I've left in especially > good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will > these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 17:10:26 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:10:26 -0500 Subject: (now off) HW: Litmus Dates Message-ID: I'm gonna ring Doug Smith, and get Trev a brand new set of stage gear and at least a 2 gig USA tour.... I know of 2 blessed names right of the tip'e'me ead, but I will go on a limb with only ome for privacey issues it involves the New York groove, where the mirrors can be fractured and they like 'em like that.... starts with a B_, couple LL's and something about stew comes to mind... ok, better log off, I hope..... you really outta try OZONE On 10/22/07, Colin Allen wrote: > > I am sure that there is someone out there who loves you! > > trev wrote: > and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are > star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars who > don't turn up. > > yes - that's right - no one loves me! > > AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS > TO > MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS > EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN > RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR > http://www.judgetrev.com > > but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... > > no one...no one... > > all alone > > abandoned > > left to die in the cold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > > > > The lean four piece approach it is. > > > > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, > > 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > > > > > > > >> 28th October 2007 > >> The Underworld > >> 174 Camden High Street > >> London > >> NW1 0NE > >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > >> Pistols and Earthling Society) > >> > >> 23rd November 2007 > >> The Old Blue Last > >> 38 Great Eastern Street > >> Shoreditch > >> London > >> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) > >> > >> 25th January 2008 > >> The Bull and Gate > >> 389 Kentish Town Road > >> London > >> NW5 2TJ > >> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) > > > > > > > > All of these are good news but those I've left in especially > > good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will > > these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > > From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Oct 22 17:16:30 2007 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:16:30 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind show pics Message-ID: This may not be the site you are looking for but it does have some stunning pics. Arab Neil's photos on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/9164285 at N04/ Ethereal Nige has some superb ones on flickr too: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=hawkwind&w=9163682%40N08&ct=6&ss=2&z=t enjoy jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Swann" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: Hawkwind show pics >A while back, someone posted a site that had tons of great pics > from a recent Hawkwind shows, they were especially good at > capturing the light show. Now I can't find it. Anyone have that > link?? > > Thanks! > Steve > > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 17:38:50 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:38:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates Message-ID: there isn't...no-one...no-one no-one at all ..and there isn't anyone who will buy me new stage gear and arrange a big tour of the states either now if only i had a martin d16 you can get them online here http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?sw=martin+d+16&x=6&y=1 if only i had one of those they're only ?699.63 including postage cough! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates >I am sure that there is someone out there who loves you! > > trev wrote: > and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are > star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars who > don't turn up. > > yes - that's right - no one loves me! > > AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS > TO > MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS > EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN > RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR > http://www.judgetrev.com > > but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... > > no one...no one... > > all alone > > abandoned > > left to die in the cold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > > >> The lean four piece approach it is. >> >> Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, >> 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >>> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: >> >> >> >>> 28th October 2007 >>> The Underworld >>> 174 Camden High Street >>> London >>> NW1 0NE >>> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >>> Pistols and Earthling Society) >>> >>> 23rd November 2007 >>> The Old Blue Last >>> 38 Great Eastern Street >>> Shoreditch >>> London >>> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) >>> >>> 25th January 2008 >>> The Bull and Gate >>> 389 Kentish Town Road >>> London >>> NW5 2TJ >>> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) >> >> >> >> All of these are good news but those I've left in especially >> good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will >> these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, >> Jon >> >> -- >> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Oct 22 12:52:52 2007 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:52:52 +0000 Subject: (off) LOOT Message-ID: can't do Kraftwerk 1 or Neu!2 as they are in storage......... (and the KW is on cassette) ----- Original Message ---- From: DOG ROT ANIMAL To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, 22 October, 2007 6:46:31 PM Subject: (off) LOOT ooops, make that: "it'll make ya wanna smiiiiiiiiiiilllllllll-uh and I haven't even popped my morning benzo's yet and even though every member of this list is in reality a close personal friend, it might be polite to announce that Blind Chick(TM), is getting turned on to NEU 1 and 2, Hawkwind 99/74 partee', and Kraftwerk 1 for good measure S.S.S. ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Oct 22 17:49:36 2007 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:49:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Look on the bright side; at least you don't have a girl's e-mail address;). trev wrote: there isn't...no-one...no-one no-one at all ..and there isn't anyone who will buy me new stage gear and arrange a big tour of the states either now if only i had a martin d16 you can get them online here http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?sw=martin+d+16&x=6&y=1 if only i had one of those they're only ?699.63 including postage cough! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates >I am sure that there is someone out there who loves you! > > trev wrote: > and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are > star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars who > don't turn up. > > yes - that's right - no one loves me! > > AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS > TO > MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS > EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN > RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR > http://www.judgetrev.com > > but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... > > no one...no one... > > all alone > > abandoned > > left to die in the cold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > > >> The lean four piece approach it is. >> >> Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, >> 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >>> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: >> >> >> >>> 28th October 2007 >>> The Underworld >>> 174 Camden High Street >>> London >>> NW1 0NE >>> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >>> Pistols and Earthling Society) >>> >>> 23rd November 2007 >>> The Old Blue Last >>> 38 Great Eastern Street >>> Shoreditch >>> London >>> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) >>> >>> 25th January 2008 >>> The Bull and Gate >>> 389 Kentish Town Road >>> London >>> NW5 2TJ >>> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) >> >> >> >> All of these are good news but those I've left in especially >> good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will >> these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, >> Jon >> >> -- >> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Oct 22 18:20:35 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:20:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates Message-ID: i s'pose there is that... sniff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > Look on the bright side; at least you don't have a girl's e-mail > address;). > > trev wrote: there isn't...no-one...no-one > > > > no-one at all > > > ..and there isn't anyone who will buy me new stage gear and arrange a big > tour of the states either > > now if only i had a martin d16 > > you can get them online here > http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?sw=martin+d+16&x=6&y=1 > > if only i had one of those > > they're only ?699.63 including postage > > cough! > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > > >>I am sure that there is someone out there who loves you! >> >> trev wrote: >> and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are >> star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars >> who >> don't turn up. >> >> yes - that's right - no one loves me! >> >> AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS >> TO >> MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS >> EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN >> RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR >> http://www.judgetrev.com >> >> but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... >> >> no one...no one... >> >> all alone >> >> abandoned >> >> left to die in the cold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin Allen" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates >> >> >>> The lean four piece approach it is. >>> >>> Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, >>> 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >>>> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: >>> >>> >>> >>>> 28th October 2007 >>>> The Underworld >>>> 174 Camden High Street >>>> London >>>> NW1 0NE >>>> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >>>> Pistols and Earthling Society) >>>> >>>> 23rd November 2007 >>>> The Old Blue Last >>>> 38 Great Eastern Street >>>> Shoreditch >>>> London >>>> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) >>>> >>>> 25th January 2008 >>>> The Bull and Gate >>>> 389 Kentish Town Road >>>> London >>>> NW5 2TJ >>>> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) >>> >>> >>> >>> All of these are good news but those I've left in especially >>> good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will >>> these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, >>> Jon >>> >>> -- >>> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >>> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >>> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >>> >> > From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Oct 22 19:54:27 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:54:27 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind show pics In-Reply-To: <016f01c814f0$d16bf940$6401a8c0@jillspc> Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 10:16:30PM +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: > This may not be the site you are looking for but it does have some stunning > pics. > > Arab Neil's photos on flickr > http://www.flickr.com/photos/9164285 at N04/ > > Ethereal Nige has some superb ones on flickr too: > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=hawkwind&w=9163682%40N08&ct=6&ss=2&z=t Yeah neither of those is the site that I was thinking of, but they're both pretty great. Thanks Jill. Steve From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Oct 23 06:00:01 2007 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:00:01 +0200 Subject: HW: Space Rock Spectacular Message-ID: Hello Nice to meet some british folks while I was in the UK this weekend. Managed to find the Drayton Town Hall and run into Harvey Bainbridge in the driveway.. Was not sure how many people would come out for the gig with the mistake of the Rugby match being placed on the same evening and I guess about 30 paid people were there... A lot of cool bands but a terrible time with the sound. Xoo, are a new HW inspired band, Xenon Codex era and played a short set and Huw Lloyd Langton joined them on an encore of Moonglum. The band was playing that song anyway and huw something else at least to start and then he caught on. Peyote Mothership, were really cool but only got about 28mins to play but the sound was never that good. Soundman never showed up so it was pretty much up to someone and it turned out the bass player from Underground Zero was having to do most of the sound. Assassins of Silence was pure chaos with terrible sound and a guy at the soundboard only making it worse. Huw was in a terrible state by this time and extremely loud to start with and playing in a completely different world. Harvey looked at him quite often wondering just what the hell he was playing?? Bridget Wishart joined the band on most of the set as well as harvey... Too bad it was just pure chaos and that was continued with Dr. Hasbeen... Dr. Hasbeen joined by a bunch of kids....crazy stuff... Underground Zero, last gig with the original line up was pretty fun stuff. Look for a full review and setlists and stuff on my aural innovations review... scott www.oresundspacecollective.com From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 23 06:13:57 2007 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:13:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ..and there is always the consideration of tripod masts and Mr Whitworth's wonderful products to console you. trev wrote: i s'pose there is that... sniff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > Look on the bright side; at least you don't have a girl's e-mail > address;). > > trev wrote: there isn't...no-one...no-one > > > > no-one at all > > > ..and there isn't anyone who will buy me new stage gear and arrange a big > tour of the states either > > now if only i had a martin d16 > > you can get them online here > http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?sw=martin+d+16&x=6&y=1 > > if only i had one of those > > they're only ?699.63 including postage > > cough! > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > > >>I am sure that there is someone out there who loves you! >> >> trev wrote: >> and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are >> star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars >> who >> don't turn up. >> >> yes - that's right - no one loves me! >> >> AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS >> TO >> MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS >> EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN >> RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR >> http://www.judgetrev.com >> >> but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... >> >> no one...no one... >> >> all alone >> >> abandoned >> >> left to die in the cold >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin Allen" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates >> >> >>> The lean four piece approach it is. >>> >>> Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, >>> 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >>>> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: >>> >>> >>> >>>> 28th October 2007 >>>> The Underworld >>>> 174 Camden High Street >>>> London >>>> NW1 0NE >>>> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >>>> Pistols and Earthling Society) >>>> >>>> 23rd November 2007 >>>> The Old Blue Last >>>> 38 Great Eastern Street >>>> Shoreditch >>>> London >>>> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) >>>> >>>> 25th January 2008 >>>> The Bull and Gate >>>> 389 Kentish Town Road >>>> London >>>> NW5 2TJ >>>> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) >>> >>> >>> >>> All of these are good news but those I've left in especially >>> good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will >>> these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, >>> Jon >>> >>> -- >>> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >>> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >>> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >>> >> > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Oct 23 11:22:30 2007 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:22:30 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind show pics In-Reply-To: <20071022192424.GA27579@plutonia.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve Go to: http://www.tangledwoof.com/ Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Stephen Swann Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:24 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Hawkwind show pics A while back, someone posted a site that had tons of great pics from a recent Hawkwind shows, they were especially good at capturing the light show. Now I can't find it. Anyone have that link?? Thanks! Steve From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Oct 23 11:49:00 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:49:00 -0400 Subject: Space Rock Spectacular In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry to hear there were problems with the attendance, and sound. If Chris and I had the money, he would have done the sound for the fun of doing it, and anyone who's heard his mixes knows he knows what he's doing. I'm glad Huw got a ride to the show. Take care, and I look forward to reading more of your postings. When, or if you are in touch with Carl wish him well for me. Your friend, Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Oct 23 11:55:13 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:55:13 -0400 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Trev, If I had the connections I'd arrange a tour for you, but sad to say I don't. It's too bad you couldn't find another band to tour with who have a larger audience, your music certainly stands out on it's own, but to get a larger draw it might be a possibility. If I win the lottery, I'll invest in a tour for you, but the chances of that are very slim. Your friend, Blind Chick (ha ha) From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Oct 23 12:14:47 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:14:47 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind show pics In-Reply-To: <1IkLZc-1Oyg7c0@fwd31.aul.t-online.de> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 05:22:30PM +0200, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > Hi Steve > > Go to: http://www.tangledwoof.com/ THAT'S the one! Thanks Bernhard! Steve From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Oct 23 14:34:48 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:34:48 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thought you might like to see an e-mail I have sent to EMI. Be interesting to see the response. Got this e-mail from their website - well hidden of course - enquiries at emimusic.co.uk Have to agree with the earlier post that the edit is "clunky". Probably best not to mention Weird Tapes version if you write. Steve ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steve Freight Date: Oct 23, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 To: enquiries at emimusic.co.uk Dear sirs, I have just purchased the above triple CD and find that despite your claims on the back of the CD namely "None of the musical performances of Man Hawkwind or Brinsley Schwarz have been edited or overdubbed..." this is not true. The Hawkwind song Born To Go has had the middle removed and an edit is plainly to be heard at 3'57" into the song. This song has been released by you in its entirety on another release, Hawkwind's Space Ritual, as a bonus track and the running time of the CD would have allowed the full version of the song to have been included. I am most disappointed as I have waited years for this concert to be released in full and now find that despite claims to the contrary by your company you have edited this marvelous historical document which is one of the holy grails for Hawkwind lovers. I am not as familiar with the man and Brinsley Schwarz material to know if any edits on their performances have taken place. I find it very poor from a company of your standing that you could mislead the public and wonder if you have any plans to redo the Hawkwind disc and have the concert released as advertised "with no musical performances of Hawkwind edited" and give us, the paying public, what we were led to believe we were purchasing. I feel that an exchange of this disc is warranted without further cost being incurred. I look forward with anticipation to your reply. Regards, Steve Freight 6 Hollis Lock Chelmsford Essex CM2 6RR From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 23 16:45:34 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:45:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates Message-ID: well, colin, i'm actually more concerned with the oncoming battle between the vested interests and lethal cabon footprint of the facistic capitalist multi-nationals, and those blessed ones who will defend the survival of our children. "how can you run when you know" the trouble is, is that the public do not yet know, and it is the duty of the sonic priests to tell them all about it. you should tell your band of youths about the great conflict which is about to burst upon mankind and get them to take part in it, rather than pandering to the fickle whims of effete superstars who don't turn up... and setting up girls email addresses AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS TO MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR AND THE BEAST WAS CAST ALIVE IN A LAKE OF BURNING FIRE AND THE REST OF THEM WERE SLAIN BY THE ONE UPON THE WHITE HORSE AND HIS NAME IT WAS THE WORD OF GOD AND WRITTEN UPON HIS THIGH WAS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS http://www.judgetrev.com so where's me d16 then...(fingers drumming the table impatiently) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > ..and there is always the consideration of tripod masts and Mr Whitworth's > wonderful products to console you. > > trev wrote: i s'pose there is that... sniff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > > >> Look on the bright side; at least you don't have a girl's e-mail >> address;). >> >> trev wrote: there isn't...no-one...no-one >> >> >> >> no-one at all >> >> >> ..and there isn't anyone who will buy me new stage gear and arrange a big >> tour of the states either >> >> now if only i had a martin d16 >> >> you can get them online here >> http://www.thomann.de/gb/search_dir.html?sw=martin+d+16&x=6&y=1 >> >> if only i had one of those >> >> they're only ?699.63 including postage >> >> cough! >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin Allen" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:37 PM >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates >> >> >>>I am sure that there is someone out there who loves you! >>> >>> trev wrote: >>> and judge trev won't be appearing at any of them because they are >>> star-struck youths who only allow walk-on's and supports by superstars >>> who >>> don't turn up. >>> >>> yes - that's right - no one loves me! >>> >>> AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS >>> TO >>> MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS >>> EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN >>> RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR >>> http://www.judgetrev.com >>> >>> but he doesn't support litmus because they don't love him either... >>> >>> no one...no one... >>> >>> all alone >>> >>> abandoned >>> >>> left to die in the cold >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Colin Allen" >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates >>> >>> >>>> The lean four piece approach it is. >>>> >>>> Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, >>>> 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >>>>> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> 28th October 2007 >>>>> The Underworld >>>>> 174 Camden High Street >>>>> London >>>>> NW1 0NE >>>>> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >>>>> Pistols and Earthling Society) >>>>> >>>>> 23rd November 2007 >>>>> The Old Blue Last >>>>> 38 Great Eastern Street >>>>> Shoreditch >>>>> London >>>>> (Headlining, with Please and Winters - this is a free gig!!!!!!) >>>>> >>>>> 25th January 2008 >>>>> The Bull and Gate >>>>> 389 Kentish Town Road >>>>> London >>>>> NW5 2TJ >>>>> (An evening with Litmus - a full-length set!) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All of these are good news but those I've left in especially >>>> good. Does this mean that there is at last a new keyboardist or will >>>> these gigs be the lean four-piece approach again? Yours, >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >>>> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >>>> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >>>> >>> >> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Oct 23 16:41:42 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:41:42 -0400 Subject: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve, How's the sound quality? Kaduflyer From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Oct 23 17:05:10 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:05:10 +0100 Subject: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Really quite excellent - silver machine has always sounded muddy to me but is now clear. I haven't really had much chance to listen to it (watching Arsenal win 7 - 0 tonight) but will do so tomorrow on the train to work. Oh and lucky me - A Roundhouse / Truckers connection - I got tickets today for Paul McCartney on Thursday. Steve On 10/23/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > Hi Steve, > How's the sound quality? > > Kaduflyer > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Oct 23 17:05:27 2007 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:05:27 EDT Subject: HW: Litmus Dates Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/2007 12:01:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET writes: From what I understand he's using different players every night. Talked to one of our pals today and he was familiar with a few of the players and supposedly they're all real good. Don't know who Damo's playing with in your neck of the woods, but each time I've seen him play- using this format-, all the players were TOP NOTCH -You want me to check it out for you? Haven't heard boooo from yooooo in a loooooong time. What are going to be for Halloween??? Best regards, Bill & Bev ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 23 17:25:11 2007 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:25:11 EDT Subject: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 Message-ID: Marvellous! If you get the chance to meet him, ask him to think of a number... then tell him he's wrong. There is a point to this, but I'm not going to climb to it now. Steve. In a message dated 10/23/2007 22:06:44 GMT Standard Time, stevefreight at GMAIL.COM writes: Oh and lucky me - A Roundhouse / Truckers connection - I got tickets today for Paul McCartney on Thursday. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 24 00:34:47 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:34:47 -0500 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates (now evil) Message-ID: On 10/23/07, Stewartbas at aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/23/2007 12:01:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET writes: > <]\Blind Chick (ha ha) > You're BLIND???? Geez Mare,....In light of this revelation I just > can't,..... let you drive my car no mo.... > *That was the only "usable" one.......the others remain locked in me and > Trev's headspace.* > *I know, she's extremely clever........all these years to figure out what > "I saw that" means.......* *While I'm at it, thought I might suggest that some of you lovely good-hearted folks who are the reason today and tomorrow exists, might do well to unsubscribe for just a little bit* *somebody is about to get their ass knocked out and their soul vacuumed up and trapped* SSS From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 24 04:20:10 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:20:10 +0100 Subject: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi again, Sorry if you keep getting this if so then there is something wrong with the list as I keep getting this rejected. Mail below. OK then, I've just listened to this on the way in to work and I have to say this is excellent in all respects - even the rambling nature of the links. As an embryonic Hawkwind all the things I loved about them are present, chugging riffs, SF poetry with weird noises (Pity Calvert didn't do this on Centigrade). You can see how they tightened the songs up and links to produce Space Ritual (and this was my first live Hawkwind experience - giving my age away). The sound is excellent. As I said in previous post I always found the Glastonbury Silver Machine muddy i sound. Now it's clear. Well worth getting even with the clunky edit on Born To Go! Now for Man and Brinsley! Oh and one extra thing I should have put in my mail to EMI - Born To Go full version was also on the original Vinyl edition of Greasy Truckers so if anyone else writes in to them mention this! Probably gets us no-where but I'll post any reply I get. This happened to Deep Purple in Rock when first issued that a wrong edit was included and they did re-release this and allow replacements to be collected from HMV, so there is a precedent. Maybe a mail to Trading Standards later eh? Steve On 10/23/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > Hi Steve, > How's the sound quality? > > Kaduflyer > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 24 07:19:08 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:19:08 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Steve Freight's message of Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:34:48 +0100 Message-ID: Steve Freight writes: > > The Hawkwind song Born To Go has had the middle removed and an edit is > plainly to be heard at 3'57" into the song. So is it just the 7" release of Born to Go. I'm sure that was an edit of the GT version. FoFP From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 24 10:12:41 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:12:41 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: <200710241119.l9OBJ8VP001051@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: No, that was the first part of the song I think just faded out at the end - this has a chunk missing after 4 minutes. Steve On 10/24/07, M Holmes wrote: > > Steve Freight writes: > > > > The Hawkwind song Born To Go has had the middle removed and an edit is > > plainly to be heard at 3'57" into the song. > > So is it just the 7" release of Born to Go. I'm sure that was an edit of > the GT version. > > FoFP > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 24 14:52:07 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:52:07 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ^^^On 10/24/07, Steve Freight wrote^^^No, that was the first part of the song I think just faded out ^^^at the end - ^^^this has a chunk missing after 4 min *That song entered my physical body and became a living part of me* *I always wished to god it had got a studio version single* *thanks very much for the shared knowledge guys, now I pray somebody hooks me up* *got sealed Electric Tepee pic discs.......is that any good??* *mike* *make EMI add all the minutes* *this chaos shit is getting old now* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 24 15:26:53 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:26:53 -0500 Subject: Delta-Wave BOC-L list exclusive Space Ritual offer Message-ID: If I can get 10 orders I can get one or 2 mixing desk shows released on RFM of the original UK Space Ritual configuration my memory is horrid, so apology that the lineup info I give is all I have 1) The Judge 2) The trumpeteer himself 3) Tommy 4) unnamed bassist from USA who started drinking young, like me 5) Commander Jim, who won't correspond with me because I have the wrong plumbing 6) Captain Rick 7) A talented drummer, of african lineage, Simon-King-like, so it goes....... mike From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 24 18:44:01 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:44:01 -0500 Subject: (OFF) cosmic couriers/cosmic jokers/stray kittens Message-ID: oh dear oh dear i knew this would happen I've just got this starving white kitten what in hell do i do?? i don't even eat of course the 2 cans of tuna the charity gave me yesterday are MIA I had a can of mackeral that would have been here until I died it gobbled and drank water, then meowed it's head off, and now seems very cozy and content it is the sweetest thing I swear to god and that is how it got in here i opened the door but it didn't want out Mary, you're going to feed this thing if it stays, you know you did this so is there a cosmic jokers bootleg LP "out there" with a Hawkwind track or is that just a jaunted false memory of yesterday gone away m From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Oct 25 00:33:04 2007 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:33:04 EDT Subject: (OFF) cosmic couriers/cosmic jokers/stray kittens Message-ID: In a message dated 10/24/2007 6:45:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: Message-ID: I think it may be gay i don't care, in fact it probably suits me best as a hyper-tensive cat would get farflung by me it is so feminine and I was so certain, but I had the neighbor girl look just a while ago and by-george...frickin' gonads (pardon language)' the kitty is from god and goes everywhere I go, it can't stand to be parted from me for 30 seconds so, Elrica I suppose, in a 2007 kinda way.....it has an ingured front paw....I spoke to mare..she's just playing hard to find at the moment...... On 10/25/07, Stewartbas at aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/24/2007 6:45:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > insect.brain at GMAIL.COM writes: > > > Is it an Elric or an Elrica? > > > Well, for starters, don't try to eat it..very stringy flesh, ...or so I'm > told. And don't try any of your shenanigans...until you have it > de-clawed, of > course. And please don't start referring to the cat as your fiance or we > can't be friends. > > Reincarnation???.....just a thought. Over to Brucie,, Mare, any thoughts? > > Bill s > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Oct 25 05:32:22 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:32:22 -0400 Subject: (OFF) cosmic couriers/cosmic jokers/stray kittens In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710242241y1a1bcd45g4245f11ba1aa971c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, What every cat person needs to know, ,Your cat will need the following; cat food and water, a litter box, with scooper, and don't throw waste in the toilet) kitty toys, (a few balls with bells, or a store bought toy is best, a carrying box to bring him to the vet, funding for his shots and operation, and lots of love and patients. You may be able to get charity for the cat's shots and operation, which he must have, if he doesn't get his shots his health is at risk, and if he doesn't get the operation your house will smell like cat piss when he starts spraying, at around 6 months. Since he's been outside in the past when he gets braver he may try to leave and explore, don't encourage this, and do not have him declawed, it's cruel. If you can do all this, and give him lots of play and cuddle time I'm sure the 2 of you will be good for each other. Be patient, he may be needy for a couple of days, but they adjust quickly. A note from a doctor or therapist will allow most managers of apartments to let you keep your cat just have the doctor say it's a new therapy to help you stay calm. Is his name Elric? If you have any other questions, ask Bill, or try googling for advice like you did for me. You know you can ask me any time, as long as I'm awake. probably best to continue any further discussion on this off list. I'm really happy you've found a little friend, and if I can do anything to help you keep him, let me know. Greetings, fellow Hawkfans, I don't have much to say on topic right now, Have to start saving my pennies for the Greasy Truckers set. Best wishes to all, Mary From des at EFALKMEDIA.COM Fri Oct 26 13:41:15 2007 From: des at EFALKMEDIA.COM (E F) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:41:15 -0400 Subject: Off: Neal Smith Mirrored Premier Vintage Drum Set For Sale Message-ID: A friend of mine just forwarded this to me, I thought it was quirky enough to share. Guess the Real Estate Biz is slowing down. Hey Albert, how's you closet? ;-) --EF http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=26297041&blogID=319247976 Neal Smith Mirrored Premier Vintage Drum Set For Sale Neal Smith, drummer for the original Alice Cooper band is selling his historic Mirrored Premier Drum Set. This is the very first set ever of completely mirrored drums. The set includes four bass drums: The two originals from the financial-record setting 1973 Billion Dollar Babies tour, and the two bass drums from Alice Cooper's 1974 Brazilian tour, for which the band held the Guinness Book of World Records for over twenty years for the indoor concert attendance record of 125,000 people. A picture of the kit from 1973 can now be found in the pictures section of Neal's Myspace. The kit includes 19 drums total. No cymbals will be included, but all Premier stands and hardware, including extra parts, will be included. Drums are being sold "as is." Photos to clarify their condition wil be available shortly. The buyer will pay for all shipping, or can pick them up in Connecticut. Serious inquiries only can be sent to Neal via his Myspace page. Please include your email address. Thank you Feel free to spread the word From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Oct 27 10:16:47 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:16:47 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock, Alchemical, and Electronic Cottage shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com OCTOBER 27, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #187), The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #30), and The Electronic Cottage (show #27). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #187) Loxley Beade - "Waiting For The Day" (from Homogeneous Hump) Peyote Mothership - "Mary Jane" (from First Landing) Modal Logic - "Neurotransmission" (from forthcoming Chemical Armegeddon) Alpha Wave Movement - "Mind Phased Pictures" (from They Mystic & The Machine) Baby Woodrose - "Renegade Soul" (from Chasing Rainbows) Fernwood - "Makena" (from Fernwood) Djam Karet - "Recollection Harvest" (from Recollection Harvest) Xai Von Face - "Yantra Being" (unreleased) Von Face - "Outer Rings" (unreleased) Rattus and the Scientific Method Orchestra - "Solar Energy" (from Solar Chronicles) Graveyard - "Thin Line" (from Graveyard) Burning Saviours - "Signs" (From Nymphs & Weavers) The Terminals - "Last Days Of The Sun" (from Last Days Of The Sun) rst - "Stone Circle Free" (from Axes) The Stumps - track 3 (from The Black Wood) Vespero - "Triptych to the Falling Sun" (from Rito) Olekranon - "Spaces Between Them" (from The Wire Risk) Cold Sky - "Energetic" (from In Process) The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #30) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, adventurous Pop, and much much more. (Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill) The Forresters - Are You Ready? Nick Toone - Reflected Sounds Of Underground Spirits Root Deco - Shallow Man Don Campau & Eric Wallack - Wrong Turn Arthur's Dream - Starvation Peter Lacey - Anderida Fran Gray - In Your Room Mystery Juice - Cursed With Good Fortune Paul Bullock - The Car Pool Mom Neumeria - Open Sky Brainticket - Within Venus PSD (Paul Stephen Duffy) - In Time Saturnia - Planetarium Carl Burnett - 3/4 Jam The Nightjars - Babylon Howl In The Typewriter - Extract From "Grand Theft Audio The Electronic Cottage (show #27) The Electronic Cottage was created to give an audio spotlight to the ambient, cosmic space, and general electronic sound explorations we receive at Aural Innovations. The show is named after Hal McGee's zine of the same name that published in the late 1980's and early 1990's. Planet Y - "Space Station" (excerpt) (from Space Station) Kyron - "I See My Mother" (from Dark Goddess) Sara Lunden & Andrey Kiritchenko - "Don't You Remember" (from There Was No End) Sara Lunden & Mjos Bjorkas - "You Can Come" (from Dubious) Alex Monk - "Przykrosc" (from Alex Monk) Donkey - "Burra" (from Stone) Damian Olsen - "Transition Between Lovers" (from forthcoming album, Ghosts) Damian Olsen - "The Song of the Seals" (from Radio Valhalla) Mystic Tech - "Sitar Fantasy" (from Meta) Book of Shadows - "Music for Cocoon Bearing Insects and Animals Part 1" (from The Inner World) Gliese 614 - "Warlord" (from Warlord EP) Gliese 614 - "I" (from Qiivuuw) SourceCodeX - "Vain Traditional Abyss" (from Primordial Lands Arise) http://Aural-Innovations.com From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Oct 27 12:43:30 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:43:30 +0100 Subject: [Hawkwind] Re: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi again Dave, Amazing the tricks your mind and ear can play. I've gone back and listened to the 2 versions and can now distinctly hear the differences you have highlighted. The only thing I'd like to add is that I'm amazed the band were so together (if it is not an edit on the newly released version) as to be able to change gear so in sinc with each other that it sounds like a cut!!! Perhaps if Dave Brock sees this he may be able to shed some light on this. Also seems strange that with all the old tape trading that went on a copy of this gig never (to my knowledge) surfaced for this issue not to have been known previously. As Jill says - time to update the Codex. Steve PS I've said this before, but think the sound on the new Truckers CD is the best of anything previously released from this set. On 10/27/07, Dave Brown wrote: > > As a long-standing Hawkfan who actually used to have a copy of the > Greasy Truckers LP (but sold it when the price was just right - after > taping it of course!), I'm intimately familar with the best version > of "Born To Go" ever. I've just received my copy of the CD and I see > what Steve means about 3:57. However, I suspect there's something > else going on here. I've got the version on Space Ritual, and it is > indeed much longer. However...all is not what it seems. > > I've extracted both tracks to wav format and opened them in Cool > Edit. The first thing I noticed is that the version on Ritual (and on > the original album) has 30 seconds of Calvert going on about the > miners, so I chopped that out so that both versions start at the > opening chord. > > The next thing one notices is that the newly-released version has no > echo on the vocals. That tells us before we even start that the > original LP version (and the Ritual bonus track) is a remix. > > Ok, now to look at the timings. I picked some salient points in the > song and checked whether they were the same in both versions. Here's > what I found: > > 0:51 - After the intro, the track proper starts. Both versions agree > (within a second) > > 1:29 - The first verse kicks in ("We Were Born To Go"), again both > versions. > > 2:19 - The second verse ("Breaking out of the shell") checks out on > both. > > 2:45 - However, here things go a bit strange. Where I expect the > song to go (being familiar with the LP/Ritual Bonus track version) it > doesn't. In fact, listening to it again, just after the second verse > ends, there's a prominent Simon King drum roll, followed by that big > synthesizer "swirl" from earlier in the song. This isn't in the new > version, and I think that's because it's an overdub, added from > earlier in the song. > > When we get the verse that starts "We were born to blaze", on > the "old" version it's at 3:02, but on the new version it's at 4:15. > However, vocally it's sung differently (listen to Calvert on "A > nuclear way through space") > > In fact, in the old version this verse is sung again, at 7:18. This > second rendition is vocally identical to the same verse at 4:15 in > the new version...and is only sung once. > > So where's this "alternate" take on the verse from? That's the > question. It isn't anywhere in the "new" recording. Personally I'm > beginning to suspect it's an overdub added later (with Calvert adding > vocals at the mixing stage), and this is the reason why the version > on the new CD is shorter - it is in fact the original "as heard on > the night" version, and the version we're familiar with has been > chopped up a bit, and overdubbed. > > It would certainly explain that oddness at 3:57. Perhaps it's not > actually an edit, but the original song diverging from the version we > are familiar with. The version on Space Ritual has certainly been > cleaned up and enhanced, so who's to say it wasn't "extended" as > well? > > Only a true Hawkfan could be this sad! > > Dave > Recent Activity > > - 1 > New Members > > Visit Your Group > > Yahoo! Search > > Find it now > > Everything you > > need in one place. > Share Photos > > Put your favorite > > photos and > > more online. > Featured Y! Groups > > and category pages. > > There is something > > for everyone. > . > > __,_._,___ > From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Oct 27 14:14:25 2007 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:14:25 +0100 Subject: [Hawkwind] Re: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 Message-ID: Codex already updated - by Starfarer 8-) see his website http://www.starfarer.net/ under the Resources link Thanks Steve for looking after this so well! jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Freight" To: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Hawkwind] Re: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 > Hi again Dave, > > Amazing the tricks your mind and ear can play. > > I've gone back and listened to the 2 versions and can now distinctly hear > the differences you have highlighted. > > The only thing I'd like to add is that I'm amazed the band were so > together > (if it is not an edit on the newly released version) as to be able to > change > gear so in sinc with each other that it sounds like a cut!!! > > Perhaps if Dave Brock sees this he may be able to shed some light on this. > > Also seems strange that with all the old tape trading that went on a copy > of > this gig never (to my knowledge) surfaced for this issue not to have been > known previously. As Jill says - time to update the Codex. > > Steve > > PS I've said this before, but think the sound on the new Truckers CD is > the > best of anything previously released from this set. > > On 10/27/07, Dave Brown wrote: >> >> As a long-standing Hawkfan who actually used to have a copy of the >> Greasy Truckers LP (but sold it when the price was just right - after >> taping it of course!), I'm intimately familar with the best version >> of "Born To Go" ever. I've just received my copy of the CD and I see >> what Steve means about 3:57. However, I suspect there's something >> else going on here. I've got the version on Space Ritual, and it is >> indeed much longer. However...all is not what it seems. >> >> I've extracted both tracks to wav format and opened them in Cool >> Edit. The first thing I noticed is that the version on Ritual (and on >> the original album) has 30 seconds of Calvert going on about the >> miners, so I chopped that out so that both versions start at the >> opening chord. >> >> The next thing one notices is that the newly-released version has no >> echo on the vocals. That tells us before we even start that the >> original LP version (and the Ritual bonus track) is a remix. >> >> Ok, now to look at the timings. I picked some salient points in the >> song and checked whether they were the same in both versions. Here's >> what I found: >> >> 0:51 - After the intro, the track proper starts. Both versions agree >> (within a second) >> >> 1:29 - The first verse kicks in ("We Were Born To Go"), again both >> versions. >> >> 2:19 - The second verse ("Breaking out of the shell") checks out on >> both. >> >> 2:45 - However, here things go a bit strange. Where I expect the >> song to go (being familiar with the LP/Ritual Bonus track version) it >> doesn't. In fact, listening to it again, just after the second verse >> ends, there's a prominent Simon King drum roll, followed by that big >> synthesizer "swirl" from earlier in the song. This isn't in the new >> version, and I think that's because it's an overdub, added from >> earlier in the song. >> >> When we get the verse that starts "We were born to blaze", on >> the "old" version it's at 3:02, but on the new version it's at 4:15. >> However, vocally it's sung differently (listen to Calvert on "A >> nuclear way through space") >> >> In fact, in the old version this verse is sung again, at 7:18. This >> second rendition is vocally identical to the same verse at 4:15 in >> the new version...and is only sung once. >> >> So where's this "alternate" take on the verse from? That's the >> question. It isn't anywhere in the "new" recording. Personally I'm >> beginning to suspect it's an overdub added later (with Calvert adding >> vocals at the mixing stage), and this is the reason why the version >> on the new CD is shorter - it is in fact the original "as heard on >> the night" version, and the version we're familiar with has been >> chopped up a bit, and overdubbed. >> >> It would certainly explain that oddness at 3:57. Perhaps it's not >> actually an edit, but the original song diverging from the version we >> are familiar with. The version on Space Ritual has certainly been >> cleaned up and enhanced, so who's to say it wasn't "extended" as >> well? >> >> Only a true Hawkfan could be this sad! >> >> Dave >> Recent Activity >> >> - 1 >> New >> Members >> >> Visit Your Group >> >> Yahoo! Search >> >> Find it >> now >> >> Everything you >> >> need in one place. >> Share Photos >> >> Put your >> favorite >> >> photos and >> >> more online. >> Featured Y! Groups >> >> and category >> pages. >> >> There is something >> >> for everyone. >> . >> >> __,_._,___ >> > > > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Oct 28 02:24:04 2007 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:24:04 +0100 Subject: [Hawkwind] Re: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: <014701c818c5$3517b830$6401a8c0@jillspc> Message-ID: Thank you Jill. The CODEX is a very important tool for every serious Hawkwind fan Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jill Strobridge Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: [Hawkwind] Re: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 Codex already updated - by Starfarer 8-) see his website http://www.starfarer.net/ under the Resources link Thanks Steve for looking after this so well! jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Freight" To: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Hawkwind] Re: Fwd: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 > Hi again Dave, > > Amazing the tricks your mind and ear can play. > > I've gone back and listened to the 2 versions and can now distinctly hear > the differences you have highlighted. > > The only thing I'd like to add is that I'm amazed the band were so > together > (if it is not an edit on the newly released version) as to be able to > change > gear so in sinc with each other that it sounds like a cut!!! > > Perhaps if Dave Brock sees this he may be able to shed some light on this. > > Also seems strange that with all the old tape trading that went on a copy > of > this gig never (to my knowledge) surfaced for this issue not to have been > known previously. As Jill says - time to update the Codex. > > Steve > > PS I've said this before, but think the sound on the new Truckers CD is > the > best of anything previously released from this set. > > On 10/27/07, Dave Brown wrote: >> >> As a long-standing Hawkfan who actually used to have a copy of the >> Greasy Truckers LP (but sold it when the price was just right - after >> taping it of course!), I'm intimately familar with the best version >> of "Born To Go" ever. I've just received my copy of the CD and I see >> what Steve means about 3:57. However, I suspect there's something >> else going on here. I've got the version on Space Ritual, and it is >> indeed much longer. However...all is not what it seems. >> >> I've extracted both tracks to wav format and opened them in Cool >> Edit. The first thing I noticed is that the version on Ritual (and on >> the original album) has 30 seconds of Calvert going on about the >> miners, so I chopped that out so that both versions start at the >> opening chord. >> >> The next thing one notices is that the newly-released version has no >> echo on the vocals. That tells us before we even start that the >> original LP version (and the Ritual bonus track) is a remix. >> >> Ok, now to look at the timings. I picked some salient points in the >> song and checked whether they were the same in both versions. Here's >> what I found: >> >> 0:51 - After the intro, the track proper starts. Both versions agree >> (within a second) >> >> 1:29 - The first verse kicks in ("We Were Born To Go"), again both >> versions. >> >> 2:19 - The second verse ("Breaking out of the shell") checks out on >> both. >> >> 2:45 - However, here things go a bit strange. Where I expect the >> song to go (being familiar with the LP/Ritual Bonus track version) it >> doesn't. In fact, listening to it again, just after the second verse >> ends, there's a prominent Simon King drum roll, followed by that big >> synthesizer "swirl" from earlier in the song. This isn't in the new >> version, and I think that's because it's an overdub, added from >> earlier in the song. >> >> When we get the verse that starts "We were born to blaze", on >> the "old" version it's at 3:02, but on the new version it's at 4:15. >> However, vocally it's sung differently (listen to Calvert on "A >> nuclear way through space") >> >> In fact, in the old version this verse is sung again, at 7:18. This >> second rendition is vocally identical to the same verse at 4:15 in >> the new version...and is only sung once. >> >> So where's this "alternate" take on the verse from? That's the >> question. It isn't anywhere in the "new" recording. Personally I'm >> beginning to suspect it's an overdub added later (with Calvert adding >> vocals at the mixing stage), and this is the reason why the version >> on the new CD is shorter - it is in fact the original "as heard on >> the night" version, and the version we're familiar with has been >> chopped up a bit, and overdubbed. >> >> It would certainly explain that oddness at 3:57. Perhaps it's not >> actually an edit, but the original song diverging from the version we >> are familiar with. The version on Space Ritual has certainly been >> cleaned up and enhanced, so who's to say it wasn't "extended" as >> well? >> >> Only a true Hawkfan could be this sad! >> >> Dave >> Recent Activity >> >> - 1 >> New >> Members >> >> Visit Your Group >> >> Yahoo! Search >> >> Find it >> now >> >> Everything you >> >> need in one place. >> Share Photos >> >> Put your >> favorite >> >> photos and >> >> more online. >> Featured Y! Groups >> >> and category >> pages. >> >> There is something >> >> for everyone. >> . >> >> __,_._,___ >> > > > From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sun Oct 28 07:31:22 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:31:22 +0000 Subject: Re Jam on Weird 1 Message-ID: In Codex Jam is said to be is the end of the Roadhawks encore from Space Ritual but without the segue with Silver Machine. Could this be the end of Brainstorm on Greasy Truckers? Steve From denis at PTI-INC.DE Sun Oct 28 16:11:53 2007 From: denis at PTI-INC.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:11:53 +0100 Subject: NIK: SpaceRitual's equipment stolen Message-ID: Hi, just read this on the planetgong.co.uk -forum (originally posted by Jonny Greene on 10/10/07): > Following rehearsals for the Autumn tour which starts tonight at the > Komedia Brighton, Space Ritual had all their equipment stolen from > the tour bus last night . > > A spokesman for the band said "All we have left is our toothbrushes, > everything else was stolen. They have taken everything, guitars, > laptops, amps etc etc." > > This seems like Deja-vu. Hawkwind had all their equipment stolen in > 1972 and only the intervention of two philanthropic equipment > manufacturers (Vox & AKG) who re-equipped the band, saved them from > disbanding. > > If you are offered any of this or come across it for sale please > email spaceritual.org or telephone 01843 294890 or 07973 436924 > > A reward will be offered for recovery of the equipment or > information leading to its recovery. > > many thanks for reading this, also for the many messages of > condelence. > > ALL TOUR DATES ARE EXPECTED TO BE FULFILLED! > > Aria Pro 3 Long Scale bass with red neck, natural > sanded body. > Capo, strap, strings > Peavey 115 Bass Combo with Celestion 15 Inch speaker. > 2xPro 25ft cables. > 1x Boss Tuner. > 1x Microphone & cable. > 1x Reel 4 plug extension. > 1x guitar stand. > 1 Jessops telescopic camera tripod. > 1x haversack > 1x 4 way extension 1 meter. > 1 wheely bag full of clothes, including stage gear. > 11x Paradogs CDs. > 10x Earth Lab CDs loose. > 100x Earth Lab CDs > > Hamer 6 string electric "Artiste" flame top red semi > hollow guitar with capo, and strap, serial No. 778224. > PRS 6 string guitar, cherry red flame maple top, > serial No. 072729. > Mesa Boogie studio 22 amp. > PEDALS: > Line 6 Delay > Tremolo Danelectro > Boss tuner Pedal > Route 66 Overdrive > Damm Treble Booster. > Plus all cables > 1x guitar stand > plus 1x wheelie suitcase. > > 20" Paiste Ride Cymbal > 16" Paiste Crash > 22" Yamaha YD four drum kit > 3x cymbal stands > 15" hi hats and stand > bass drum pedal > snare stand > drum stool > drum cases > Traps case. > > Roland XP80 keyboard & case > 4 Roland expansion boards > Peavey 300 watt amp > Flight Case > Wah-Wah pedal > Roland volume pedal > Switch pedal (Roland) > Plug board > Floppy discs 3 3 unique sounds > 2x 5 metre leads > 12 volt halogen desk lamp > > 2x Analogue Systems RS15 Integrators > Each Integrator comprises about 12 sound generating / > filtering / modifying modules. > 1x $MS pedals Triwave Picogenerator > 1x Danelectro echo/delay pedal > 1x Korg Kaoss Pad II > 4x Flightcase Warehouse custom made flightcases > 1x Samson 10-channel stereo mixer. > 1x Sennheiser headphones > 1x Painted shop mannequin in UV / dayglo colours, > signed on foot "Cassie 2007", mannequin has circular > metal stand. > 1x UV strip light mounted on wood, with white > transformer, about 4' long. > Flight cases & synthesizers / noise boxes/ mixers are > marked with a UV pen with postcode, name & phone > number- C. Purdon, CF15 9QR, 07949 096508 > > Mackintosh I-Book Lap top computer > Radio mic - Samson dual diversity > CD player - Phillips Walkman You know, there must be some special kind of hell for people who steal musicians' instruments. Fucking bastards. (c)IAO D+R np: Ministry, "The Last Sucker" From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Oct 28 18:47:04 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:47:04 -0600 Subject: NIK: SpaceRitual's equipment stolen In-Reply-To: <5DE0BCDA-C745-4527-AAF0-D080A77EDF80@pti-inc.de> Message-ID: if anybody opposed our captain, we'd have actual deaths on our hands....... it's been solved for actually quite a while now...... the one I knew who got at least one of the rossington-collins guitars and also got my moms sterling silver over which I still cry, got all his teeth smashed out (or in)....I truly wish I killed him.... it was done from on high......(as high as it gets).......that's what I know and i am _of course_ kidding about the captain....... On 10/28/07, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > Hi, > > just read this on the planetgong.co.uk -forum (originally posted by > Jonny Greene on 10/10/07): > > > Following rehearsals for the Autumn tour which starts tonight at the > > Komedia Brighton, Space Ritual had all their equipment stolen from > > the tour bus last night . > > > > A spokesman for the band said "All we have left is our toothbrushes, > > everything else was stolen. They have taken everything, guitars, > > laptops, amps etc etc." > > > > This seems like Deja-vu. Hawkwind had all their equipment stolen in > > 1972 and only the intervention of two philanthropic equipment > > manufacturers (Vox & AKG) who re-equipped the band, saved them from > > disbanding. > > > > If you are offered any of this or come across it for sale please > > email spaceritual.org or telephone 01843 294890 or 07973 436924 > > > > A reward will be offered for recovery of the equipment or > > information leading to its recovery. > > > > many thanks for reading this, also for the many messages of > > condelence. > > > > ALL TOUR DATES ARE EXPECTED TO BE FULFILLED! > > > > Aria Pro 3 Long Scale bass with red neck, natural > > sanded body. > > Capo, strap, strings > > Peavey 115 Bass Combo with Celestion 15 Inch speaker. > > 2xPro 25ft cables. > > 1x Boss Tuner. > > 1x Microphone & cable. > > 1x Reel 4 plug extension. > > 1x guitar stand. > > 1 Jessops telescopic camera tripod. > > 1x haversack > > 1x 4 way extension 1 meter. > > 1 wheely bag full of clothes, including stage gear. > > 11x Paradogs CDs. > > 10x Earth Lab CDs loose. > > 100x Earth Lab CDs > > > > Hamer 6 string electric "Artiste" flame top red semi > > hollow guitar with capo, and strap, serial No. 778224. > > PRS 6 string guitar, cherry red flame maple top, > > serial No. 072729. > > Mesa Boogie studio 22 amp. > > PEDALS: > > Line 6 Delay > > Tremolo Danelectro > > Boss tuner Pedal > > Route 66 Overdrive > > Damm Treble Booster. > > Plus all cables > > 1x guitar stand > > plus 1x wheelie suitcase. > > > > 20" Paiste Ride Cymbal > > 16" Paiste Crash > > 22" Yamaha YD four drum kit > > 3x cymbal stands > > 15" hi hats and stand > > bass drum pedal > > snare stand > > drum stool > > drum cases > > Traps case. > > > > Roland XP80 keyboard & case > > 4 Roland expansion boards > > Peavey 300 watt amp > > Flight Case > > Wah-Wah pedal > > Roland volume pedal > > Switch pedal (Roland) > > Plug board > > Floppy discs 3 3 unique sounds > > 2x 5 metre leads > > 12 volt halogen desk lamp > > > > 2x Analogue Systems RS15 Integrators > > Each Integrator comprises about 12 sound generating / > > filtering / modifying modules. > > 1x $MS pedals Triwave Picogenerator > > 1x Danelectro echo/delay pedal > > 1x Korg Kaoss Pad II > > 4x Flightcase Warehouse custom made flightcases > > 1x Samson 10-channel stereo mixer. > > 1x Sennheiser headphones > > 1x Painted shop mannequin in UV / dayglo colours, > > signed on foot "Cassie 2007", mannequin has circular > > metal stand. > > 1x UV strip light mounted on wood, with white > > transformer, about 4' long. > > Flight cases & synthesizers / noise boxes/ mixers are > > marked with a UV pen with postcode, name & phone > > number- C. Purdon, CF15 9QR, 07949 096508 > > > > Mackintosh I-Book Lap top computer > > Radio mic - Samson dual diversity > > CD player - Phillips Walkman > > You know, there must be some special kind of hell for people who steal > musicians' instruments. Fucking bastards. > > (c)IAO > D+R > > np: Ministry, "The Last Sucker" > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Oct 28 19:47:31 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:47:31 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty Message-ID: my new kitty suddenly and mysteriously develops two huge bleeding patches on it's hinds my friends who were taking me to the porcupine tree show which was the first show in at least 5 years are rushing him to the hospital....... i am not upset about the show, i just feel the damage of my life and wish to cry for a while i don't wish i kiiled anyone ever, it's just hard not to think that way under certain conditions it's not steve's fault From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Oct 28 20:59:12 2007 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:59:12 EDT Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty Message-ID: Any news yet re Kitty? -Bev ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 29 00:28:51 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:28:51 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <835027.20906.qm@web23008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: it was caustic burns just now showing up from battery acid or something this is what happens to bad little boys when they get older he cost my friend $250.00 already and the friend says eric owes him not me (I couldn't name him virginia after one of eric's guitars, so mary named him) i was spastic and blue that his girlfriend was going to get him in a power play over money he is apparently going to her house for a few days.....he may need surgery on one of the feet, still don't know about other possible disease, etc if nature takes him away....... no porcupine i have to stay awake all night in case he tries to shake off one of the two remaining bandages, out of four...all four legs were affected On 10/28/07, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > could you not herd the cat to the vet, and you missed PT over a cat who > could lick his wounds after a fight with the neighboring kitty??? or did you > hurt the cat????????? > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: DOG ROT ANIMAL > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Monday, 29 October, 2007 12:47:31 AM > Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty > > my new kitty suddenly and mysteriously develops two huge bleeding patches > on > it's hinds > my friends who were taking me to the porcupine tree show which was the > first > show in at least 5 years are rushing him to the hospital....... > i am not upset about the show, i just feel the damage of my life and wish > to > cry for a while > i don't wish i kiiled anyone ever, it's just hard not to think that way > under certain conditions > > it's not steve's fault > > > > ------------------------------ > For email that puts you in control, choose Yahoo! Mail > . > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 29 07:15:06 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:15:06 GMT Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: DOG ROT ANIMAL's message of Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:47:31 -0600 Message-ID: DOG ROT ANIMAL writes: > my new kitty suddenly and mysteriously develops two huge bleeding patches on > it's hinds Ah. You can't make them go like a friction-wheel toy car. That doesn't work with cats. FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 29 07:41:50 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:41:50 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <200710291115.l9TBF68h012237@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: ^^^Ah. You can't make them go like a friction-wheel toy car. That doesn't ^^^work with cats. FoFP IT'S A SINCH: TAPE LOOPS From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Oct 29 09:39:14 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:39:14 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710290441r115eb5b2s96894ea92caa6d74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Chris is wondering if fire ants could have anything to do with the kitty's problem? From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Oct 29 10:08:19 2007 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:08:19 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710281647m69514009sb08fc589d2f5ef8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: :Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty : :my new kitty suddenly and mysteriously develops two huge bleeding patches on :it's hinds :my friends who were taking me to the porcupine tree show which was the first :show in at least 5 years are rushing him to the hospital....... :i am not upset about the show, i just feel the damage of my life and wish to :cry for a while :i don't wish i kiiled anyone ever, it's just hard not to think that way :under certain conditions Cats have anal sacs on their rears which can get infected and burst open. That's be time for a vet :-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 29 11:02:02 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:02:02 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i am gearing up for a fight they panicked and the vet played into it this cat is lively, hungry, happy, it just got wormed at the office, and it's staying for the moment the emergency vet also spotted flea eggs no mention of the hiney sorry about all this on list however I appreciate the responses 100000+ she has 4 cats and if it goes anywhere, ok with her, but think it's best quiet with me for now, she's claiming spca friends which ainlt happnin', i just talked to them i'm afraid somebody else will see how precious it is and try to pry it away..... mike again, they were claiming exposure to something caustic causing burns which it _sure as heck_ didn't get here, and further, it's front paws are fine, and the stupid bandages they put were adhesive of all dumb things only one remains, on the worst one, the other one now looks fine On 10/29/07, Arin Komins wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: > > :Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty > : > :my new kitty suddenly and mysteriously develops two huge bleeding patches > on > :it's hinds > :my friends who were taking me to the porcupine tree show which was the > first > :show in at least 5 years are rushing him to the hospital....... > :i am not upset about the show, i just feel the damage of my life and wish > to > :cry for a while > :i don't wish i kiiled anyone ever, it's just hard not to think that way > :under certain conditions > > Cats have anal sacs on their rears which can get infected and burst open. > > That's be time for a vet :-) > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Oct 29 12:02:24 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:02:24 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710290802l6c9e1370pf477ab9a173cb66a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: a last note the cat is going she has a connection through her work..... but _I did_ have to fight she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment where four other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I have nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue) I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust with them but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is nooooooo doubt positive thoughts please i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video with kids popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds like where I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an opening act called "3" or "three".....* *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again* *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the nice forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us and doing good* *peace* On 10/29/07, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: > > i am gearing up for a fight > they panicked and the vet played into it > this cat is lively, hungry, happy, it just got wormed at the office, and > it's staying for the moment > the emergency vet also spotted flea eggs > no mention of the hiney > sorry about all this on list however I appreciate the responses 100000+ > she has 4 cats and if it goes anywhere, ok with her, but think it's best > quiet with me for now, she's claiming spca friends which ainlt happnin', i > just talked to them > i'm afraid somebody else will see how precious it is and try to pry it > away..... > mike > again, they were claiming exposure to something caustic causing burns > which it _sure as heck_ didn't get here, and further, it's front paws are > fine, and the stupid bandages they put were adhesive of all dumb things > only one remains, on the worst one, the other one now looks fine > > > On 10/29/07, Arin Komins wrote: > > > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: > > > > :Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty > > : > > :my new kitty suddenly and mysteriously develops two huge bleeding > > patches on > > :it's hinds > > :my friends who were taking me to the porcupine tree show which was the > > first > > :show in at least 5 years are rushing him to the hospital....... > > :i am not upset about the show, i just feel the damage of my life and > > wish to > > :cry for a while > > :i don't wish i kiiled anyone ever, it's just hard not to think that way > > :under certain conditions > > > > Cats have anal sacs on their rears which can get infected and burst > > open. > > > > That's be time for a vet :-) > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Assistant Director - Solutions Architecture > > University of Chicago/NSIT/RP&A tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #428, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Oct 29 12:09:36 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:09:36 -0700 Subject: Some Enchanted Evening remastered Message-ID: Directed to Albert: I was impressed with your double bass drum setup in the DVD portion of "Some Enchanted Evening." Are you the progenitor of thrash metal? I was also curious what type of bass Joe's playing in that concert. Looks similar to Jerry Garcia's SG like guitar. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From albert at CELLSUM.COM Mon Oct 29 12:20:15 2007 From: albert at CELLSUM.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:20:15 -0400 Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: Some Enchanted Evening remastered In-Reply-To: <895064.90107.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Spam detection software, running on the system "www.ispnetinc.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I think maybe I was. We definitely influenced Mot?rhead and they were influential on most of the thrash and speed metal groups in the mid-80's. Everything comes from somewhere though. We were trying to rock-ize the Blues Project. It's funny hearing Dennis Dunaway talking about how Alice Cooper was influenced by Frank Zappa. Joe's bass in that video was an alembic, an instrument the rest of the band didn't appreciate at the time (thought it was too jazzy). Sounds pretty good now though. 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From: albert bouchard Subject: Re: Some Enchanted Evening remastered Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:20:15 -0400 Size: 2412 URL: From tjackson at SYR.EDU Mon Oct 29 12:35:57 2007 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:35:57 -0400 Subject: Some Enchanted Evening remastered In-Reply-To: A<895064.90107.qm@web36906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 12:10 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Some Enchanted Evening remastered Directed to Albert: I was impressed with your double bass drum setup in the DVD portion of "Some Enchanted Evening." Are you the progenitor of thrash metal? I was also curious what type of bass Joe's playing in that concert. Looks similar to Jerry Garcia's SG like guitar. I'm virtually certain that Joe's bass was an Alembic, which is similar to Jerry's 2 main guitars... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Oct 30 05:44:00 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:44:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: <866440.59413.qm@web23211.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > 28th October 2007 > The Underworld > 174 Camden High Street > London > NW1 0NE > (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > Pistols and Earthling Society) Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus into producing new t-shirt designs. Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest. Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the money for a new Litmus t-shirt. So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance again. The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes, I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and possibly some help. Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't really much for anyone else. So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar explosion would probably level the venue. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 30 07:38:41 2007 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:38:41 +0000 Subject: HW: Litmus Dates In-Reply-To: <20071030094400.GA23253@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: See my comments below: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > 28th October 2007 > The Underworld > 174 Camden High Street > London > NW1 0NE > (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > Pistols and Earthling Society) Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus into producing new t-shirt designs. No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest. I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a very good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were probably played the best set on the night. Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the money for a new Litmus t-shirt. So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance again. The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes, I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and possibly some help. Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to be heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was the cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were no longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space Ritual. I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened than you were. Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't really much for anyone else. So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar explosion would probably level the venue. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" 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Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Oct 30 14:08:00 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:08:00 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty, kitty's going to be all right In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710290902v504a83f3q534484675b8204e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Greetings friends, Thanks to all who helped Mike Coleman with advice and support in dealing with the crisis with his kitty, apparently the burns were from fertilizer that the cat got into, so make sure your little friends can't get into that, or antifreeze. The cat won't be losing his leg. These are reasons why I don't let my little Kosh outside, but Mike found this little guy and he followed him home and adopted him, and he intends to keep him an indoor cat. Mike, It's too bad you missed the PT show, but you did the right thing, getting the cat seen right away, and I'm glad you got some help for the little one. I don't know how well attended the show was in Texas, but I hope they come back to your area, I was bummed they didn't play Boston, and they didn't play anywhere close enough to make a show practical for me. Love in space, to all, Mary and Kosh From drgoon at MAC.COM Tue Oct 30 14:18:11 2007 From: drgoon at MAC.COM (Gordon Hundley) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:18:11 -0400 Subject: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Oct 24, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Steve Freight wrote: > Well worth getting even with the clunky edit on Born To Go! Now for > Man and > Brinsley! > > Oh and one extra thing I should have put in my mail to EMI - Born > To Go full > version was also on the original Vinyl edition of Greasy Truckers > so if > anyone else writes in to them mention this! Probably gets us no- > where but > I'll post any reply I get. Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade- in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened? Gordon. From drgoon at MAC.COM Tue Oct 30 14:19:12 2007 From: drgoon at MAC.COM (Gordon Hundley) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:19:12 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710290902v504a83f3q534484675b8204e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: > a last note > the cat is going she has a connection through her work..... > but _I did_ have to fight > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment > where four > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I > have > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue) > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust > with them > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is > nooooooo doubt > positive thoughts please > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks. > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video > with kids > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds > like where > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an > opening > act called "3" or "three".....* > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again* > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the > nice > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us > and doing > good* > *peace* Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour swings around again. The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon. Gordon From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Tue Oct 30 14:27:37 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:27:37 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <33C00DFE-FEB6-4126-8C9A-348BFBC821D7@mac.com> Message-ID: Quoting Gordon Hundley : > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now > that Joie & Merv are back, Oh, I hadn't heard that. That's very good news. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Saturn comes back around to show you everything Lets you choose what you will not see and then Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again Spits you out like a child, light and innocent." The Grudge - TOOL From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Oct 30 14:45:15 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:45:15 +0000 Subject: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: <28CB16A0-FCD3-48AE-B479-0F4438A125A8@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Gordon, They do actually confess that they do not have the start as they were late turning on the recorder. It's in the body of the booklet somewhere. Steve On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley wrote: Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade- in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened? Gordon. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Oct 30 15:03:01 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:03:01 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <33C00DFE-FEB6-4126-8C9A-348BFBC821D7@mac.com> Message-ID: it's a blessed sunshiny day dallas way.......wasn't going to put eric johnson the moon kitty from beyond the stars on the forum any further, but the vet he saw today was what I thought the day heralded, no-nonsense, straight-forward....said eric won't be losing his leg (which wasn't reported yesterday), said kitty probably sat in *fertilizer, *or a car engine, etc.....kitty stays with me, gets bandages changed every other day......... *fabulous info on the Steve Wilson experience and equally dazzling on the Ed Wynne experience, guess I better figure out how to tuck in a shirt with the beer-belly and guts up toward a (cough, ghasp)..j.....ja.......(cough)....jah......* *I can't say it.......* *there's this extremely large luvpack I just signed for that sopmebody sent the EJ experience from NY......* *I wish I could remember who.......* On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley wrote: > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: > > > a last note > > the cat is going she has a connection through her work..... > > but _I did_ have to fight > > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment > > where four > > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I > > have > > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue) > > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust > > with them > > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is > > nooooooo doubt > > positive thoughts please > > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care > > I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks. > > > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video > > with kids > > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds > > like where > > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an > > opening > > act called "3" or "three".....* > > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again* > > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the > > nice > > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us > > and doing > > good* > > *peace* > > Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't > doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only > had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that > we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was > very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they > wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd > was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break > for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do > 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any > US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour > swings around again. > > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now > that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal > with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon. > > Gordon > From drgoon at MAC.COM Tue Oct 30 15:12:15 2007 From: drgoon at MAC.COM (Gordon Hundley) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:12:15 -0400 Subject: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah, okay. So it wasn't edited down to convenient vinyl sized chunk at all, its simply a case of "dude, have you turned the recorder on yet?", "no, Dave said that Tommy was doing it", "dude, you are Tommy", "oh yeah, right". Toke. ;) Gordon. On Oct 30, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Steve Freight wrote: > Hi Gordon, > > They do actually confess that they do not have the start as they > were late > turning on the recorder. It's in the body of the booklet somewhere. > > Steve > > > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley wrote: > Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's > still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade- > in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell > can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've > destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened? > > Gordon. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Oct 30 16:29:24 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:29:24 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <33C00DFE-FEB6-4126-8C9A-348BFBC821D7@mac.com> Message-ID: Hey Gordon, This is Robin after the fact and concert in Dallas. It was fantastic. One thing though! I want to know how you know so much about Pt as well as Oz Ten? I am loving all their work. YOU can respond to me directly at abigstepup at yahoo.com it is definitely a start in the right direction. at any rate. i hate the fact that our government visa b--s--t. keeps these great talented people from coming around. as far as i am concerend DFW is full of freaks and great talent as well as good rockers. I hail from Chicao area and they rock just about the same. at my age i have been throught at least 15 types of various rock seguays. let me knowwhat you think. cheers! Robin On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley wrote: > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote: > > > a last note > > the cat is going she has a connection through her work..... > > but _I did_ have to fight > > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment > > where four > > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I > > have > > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue) > > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust > > with them > > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is > > nooooooo doubt > > positive thoughts please > > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care > > I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks. > > > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video > > with kids > > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds > > like where > > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an > > opening > > act called "3" or "three".....* > > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again* > > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the > > nice > > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us > > and doing > > good* > > *peace* > > Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't > doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only > had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that > we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was > very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they > wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd > was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break > for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do > 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any > US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour > swings around again. > > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now > that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal > with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon. > > Gordon > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Oct 30 17:34:54 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:34:54 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710301203s4f181c0aubd5ce619f05187fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I want to thank that guy from NYC as well. For a "capitalist son of a bitch," as you put it, you're all right. Love to you, your mate, and the little ones, Mary From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Oct 30 17:36:59 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:36:59 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty Ozrics In-Reply-To: <20071030142737.4t0yg20yok4wk4c0@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: I hadn't heard they'd rejoined either, I hope they make it back next year. Kaduflyer From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Oct 30 19:46:27 2007 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:46:27 EDT Subject: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty, kitty's going to be all right Message-ID: In a message dated 10/30/2007 2:09:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET writes: Yesssssssssssss. I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the editing stage. The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour line up: Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy Grenias (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the present Space Ritual rather interesting. trev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > See my comments below: > > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > > > >> 28th October 2007 >> The Underworld >> 174 Camden High Street >> London >> NW1 0NE >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >> Pistols and Earthling Society) > > > > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus > into producing new t-shirt designs. > > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. > > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest. > > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a very > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were > probably played the best set on the night. > > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the > money for a new Litmus t-shirt. > > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance > again. > > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes, > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and > possibly some help. > > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to be > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was the > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were no > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space Ritual. > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened than > you were. > > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't > really much for anyone else. > > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Oct 30 21:29:12 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (DOG ROT ANIMAL) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:29:12 -0600 Subject: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of that....... I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in the states bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney into the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs I deserved it On 10/30/07, trev wrote: > > Yesssssssssssss. > > I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the editing > stage. > The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in > 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour > line up: > Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy > Grenias > (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh > It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the > present Space Ritual rather interesting. > > trev > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > > > > See my comments below: > > > > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct > > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > > > > > > > >> 28th October 2007 > >> The Underworld > >> 174 Camden High Street > >> London > >> NW1 0NE > >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > >> Pistols and Earthling Society) > > > > > > > > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and > > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, > > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus > > into producing new t-shirt designs. > > > > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. > > > > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, > > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost > > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their > > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the > > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the > > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about > > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an > > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his > > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw > > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest. > > > > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a > very > > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was > > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were > > probably played the best set on the night. > > > > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they > > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other > > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an > > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde > > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been > > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton > > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they > > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far > > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for > > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to > > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols > > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were > > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer > > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited > > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all > > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily > > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too > > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being > > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely > > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album > > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the > > money for a new Litmus t-shirt. > > > > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that > > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this > > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and > > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken > > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but > > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, > > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were > > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and > > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too > > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance > > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap > > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As > > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance > > again. > > > > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at > > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a > > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes, > > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at > > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be > > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, > > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with > > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or > > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to > > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we > > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point > > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes > > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and > > possibly some help. > > > > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to > be > > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him > > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was > the > > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were > no > > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when > > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space > Ritual. > > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened > than > > you were. > > > > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. > > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting > > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has > > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the > > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down > > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too > > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with > > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer > > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I > > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd > > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old > > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues > > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them > > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in > > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually > > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences > > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't > > really much for anyone else. > > > > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, > > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright > > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a > > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar > > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 30 22:22:49 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:22:49 -0000 Subject: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier Message-ID: European Space Ritual...European Space Ritual I'll blow that Helios wotsit off anyday is/was Paul Fox in Farflung???? .and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:29 AM Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like > one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of > that....... > I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in the > states > bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being > carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney into > the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know > I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs > I deserved it > > > On 10/30/07, trev wrote: >> >> Yesssssssssssss. >> >> I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the >> editing >> stage. >> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in >> 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour >> line up: >> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy >> Grenias >> (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh >> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the >> present Space Ritual rather interesting. >> >> trev >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin Allen" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates >> >> >> > See my comments below: >> > >> > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, >> > Oct >> > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: >> > >> > >> > >> >> 28th October 2007 >> >> The Underworld >> >> 174 Camden High Street >> >> London >> >> NW1 0NE >> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >> >> Pistols and Earthling Society) >> > >> > >> > >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and >> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, >> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus >> > into producing new t-shirt designs. >> > >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. >> > >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, >> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost >> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their >> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the >> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of >> > the >> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about >> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an >> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit >> > his >> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw >> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest. >> > >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a >> very >> > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was >> > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were >> > probably played the best set on the night. >> > >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they >> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, >> > other >> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an >> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde >> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been >> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar >> > Broughton >> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they >> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far >> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for >> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to >> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols >> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs >> > were >> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer >> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be >> > credited >> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all >> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a >> > happily >> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too >> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being >> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely >> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album >> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the >> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt. >> > >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that >> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this >> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and >> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken >> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but >> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, >> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were >> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and >> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for >> > too >> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a >> > performance >> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap >> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. >> > As >> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance >> > again. >> > >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at >> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a >> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two >> > minutes, >> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and >> > at >> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be >> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, >> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with >> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or >> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to >> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we >> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point >> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what >> > goes >> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and >> > possibly some help. >> > >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to >> be >> > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him >> > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was >> the >> > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were >> no >> > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially >> > when >> > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space >> Ritual. >> > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened >> than >> > you were. >> > >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. >> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting >> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has >> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and >> > the >> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down >> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too >> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with >> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer >> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I >> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd >> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old >> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues >> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them >> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans >> > in >> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually >> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences >> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't >> > really much for anyone else. >> > >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, >> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright >> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a >> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar >> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours, >> > Jon >> > >> > -- >> > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" >> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> > >> > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Oct 30 22:30:48 2007 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:30:48 EDT Subject: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier Message-ID: In a message dated 10/30/2007 10:24:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: i Message-ID: 1) uhh, I'll go for that 2) Paul is kewel 3) no 4) it's hot baths, more than anyone ever 5) even though your the "writer", like the UFO song which is great, watch it, or I'll get BAS associates, you you you...nevemind mc cold clamey bombing DRA, future leader of the USA revolt in the streets On 10/30/07, trev wrote: > > European Space Ritual...European Space Ritual > I'll blow that Helios wotsit off anyday > > is/was Paul Fox in Farflung???? > > .and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:29 AM > Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier > > > > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like > > one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of > > that....... > > I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in > the > > states > > bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being > > carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney > into > > the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know > > I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs > > I deserved it > > > > > > On 10/30/07, trev wrote: > >> > >> Yesssssssssssss. > >> > >> I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the > >> editing > >> stage. > >> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in > >> 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour > >> line up: > >> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy > >> Grenias > >> (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh > >> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the > >> present Space Ritual rather interesting. > >> > >> trev > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Colin Allen" > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM > >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > >> > >> > >> > See my comments below: > >> > > >> > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, > >> > Oct > >> > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > >> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> 28th October 2007 > >> >> The Underworld > >> >> 174 Camden High Street > >> >> London > >> >> NW1 0NE > >> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > >> >> Pistols and Earthling Society) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and > >> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, > >> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured > Litmus > >> > into producing new t-shirt designs. > >> > > >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. > >> > > >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, > >> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost > >> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of > their > >> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the > >> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of > >> > the > >> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about > >> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was > an > >> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit > >> > his > >> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I > saw > >> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest. > >> > > >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a > >> very > >> > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set > was > >> > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were > >> > probably played the best set on the night. > >> > > >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they > >> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, > >> > other > >> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an > >> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde > >> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been > >> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar > >> > Broughton > >> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they > >> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far > >> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point > for > >> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to > >> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols > >> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs > >> > were > >> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer > >> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be > >> > credited > >> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all > >> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a > >> > happily > >> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too > >> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being > >> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely > >> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album > >> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save > the > >> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt. > >> > > >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that > >> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts > this > >> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and > >> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken > >> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but > >> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete > songs, > >> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were > >> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and > >> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for > >> > too > >> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a > >> > performance > >> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to > wrap > >> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. > >> > As > >> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance > >> > again. > >> > > >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at > >> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was > a > >> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two > >> > minutes, > >> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and > >> > at > >> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be > >> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, > >> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with > >> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or > >> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to > >> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, > we > >> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point > >> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what > >> > goes > >> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and > >> > possibly some help. > >> > > >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed > to > >> be > >> > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left > him > >> > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This > was > >> the > >> > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs > were > >> no > >> > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially > >> > when > >> > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space > >> Ritual. > >> > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened > >> than > >> > you were. > >> > > >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. > >> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by > recruiting > >> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has > >> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and > >> > the > >> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold > down > >> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too > >> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with > >> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the > drummer > >> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, > I > >> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if > you'd > >> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old > >> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues > >> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them > >> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans > >> > in > >> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually > >> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences > >> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't > >> > really much for anyone else. > >> > > >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, > >> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; > outright > >> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on > a > >> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar > >> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours, > >> > Jon > >> > > >> > -- > >> > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > >> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > >> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > >> > > >> > > > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Oct 31 10:59:07 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:59:07 +0000 Subject: OEB all hallows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well it wasn't a proper gig per se' in that it was a live auditionfor a paying gig. We decided to use their open mic event as a way of auditioning. The place was quite packed, and I made an observation about the material that a lot of the younger kids were playing. It seemed that there is a sort of lilting/sad quality in many of the songs. There was nothing upbeat until we went on. I was sitting there wondering, "Why are these kids so sad sounding""..In my opinion one of the happiest sounds in the place was the sound of the coffee machine. It was a great venue, excellent sound..Anyway, we were told that we could only play two songs, because it was getting late, so we decided to link two numbers together without telling anyone. That way we hoped to play three tunes..The three tunes turned out to be the following: The Wizard ( Uriah Heep )Ejection> Hurry On Sundown So it was quite a hoot...BOO!!! > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:32:06 -0400> From: LISTSERV at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> Subject: BOC-L Digest - 30 Oct 2007 - Special issue (#2007-278)> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > There are 19 messages totalling 1564 lines in this issue.> > Topics in this special issue:> > 1. HW: Litmus Dates (2)> 2. Mike Burro to make 'All Hallows' appearance TONIGHT (FREE)> 3. (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty, kitty's going to be all right (2)> 4. Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4 (3)> 5. (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty (5)> 6. (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty Ozrics> 7. Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier (5)> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:44:00 +0000> From: Jonathan Jarrett > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> > Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> > > > > 28th October 2007> > The Underworld> > 174 Camden High Street> > London> > NW1 0NE> > (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> > Pistols and Earthling Society)> > > > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus > into producing new t-shirt designs.> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance > again.> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes, > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and > possibly some help.> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't > really much for anyone else.> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> Jon> > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:38:41 +0000> From: Colin Allen > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> > See my comments below:> > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> > Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> > > > > 28th October 2007> > The Underworld> > 174 Camden High Street> > London> > NW1 0NE> > (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> > Pistols and Earthling Society)> > > > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented, > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus > into producing new t-shirt designs.> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. > > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a very good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were probably played the best set on the night.> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs, > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance > again.> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes, > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and > possibly some help.> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to be heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was the cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were no longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space Ritual. I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened than you were.> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't > really much for anyone else.> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> Jon> > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:20:50 +0000> From: Burro Mike > Subject: Mike Burro to make 'All Hallows' appearance TONIGHT (FREE)> > =20> > Mike Burro & Greg Elwell to make 'All Hallows' appearance' 10/30 FREE Oct=> ober, 30 2007 at Coffee Works Cafe 910 Berlin Rd, Vorhees, New Jersey 08043=> Cost : FREEMike Burro & Greg Elwell will perform a few acoustic songs for => =92All Hallows=92.=20> This has become a tradition, so come out and be part of it!!=20> venue phone number: ( 856 ) 784-5282> venue website: www.coffee-works.com> http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1> =20> _________________________________________________________________> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. Stop => by today.> http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_Oc=> tWLtagline=> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:08:00 -0500> From: vzenv14m > Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty, kitty's going to be all right> > Greetings friends,> Thanks to all who helped Mike Coleman with advice and support in dealing> with the crisis with his kitty, apparently the burns were from fertilizer> that the cat got into, so make sure your little friends can't get into> that, or antifreeze. The cat won't be losing his leg. These are reasons> why I don't let my little Kosh outside, but Mike found this little guy and> he followed him home and adopted him, and he intends to keep him an indoor> cat. Mike,> It's too bad you missed the PT show, but you did the right thing, getting> the cat seen right away, and I'm glad you got some help for the little one.> I don't know how well attended the show was in Texas, but I hope they come> back to your area, I was bummed they didn't play Boston, and they didn't> play anywhere close enough to make a show practical for me.> > Love in space, to all,> > Mary and Kosh> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:18:11 -0400> From: Gordon Hundley > Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4> > On Oct 24, 2007, at 4:20 AM, Steve Freight wrote:> > > Well worth getting even with the clunky edit on Born To Go! Now for > > Man and> > Brinsley!> >> > Oh and one extra thing I should have put in my mail to EMI - Born > > To Go full> > version was also on the original Vinyl edition of Greasy Truckers > > so if> > anyone else writes in to them mention this! Probably gets us no- > > where but> > I'll post any reply I get.> > Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's > still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade- > in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell > can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've > destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened?> > Gordon.> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:19:12 -0400> From: Gordon Hundley > Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote:> > > a last note> > the cat is going she has a connection through her work.....> > but _I did_ have to fight> > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment > > where four> > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I > > have> > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue)> > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust > > with them> > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is> > nooooooo doubt> > positive thoughts please> > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care> > I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks.> > > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video > > with kids> > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds > > like where> > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an > > opening> > act called "3" or "three".....*> > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again*> > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the > > nice> > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us > > and doing> > good*> > *peace*> > Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't > doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only > had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that > we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was > very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they > wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd > was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break > for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do > 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any > US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour > swings around again.> > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now > that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal > with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon.> > Gordon> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:27:37 -0400> From: David Kuznick > Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > Quoting Gordon Hundley :> > > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their> > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now> > that Joie & Merv are back,> > Oh, I hadn't heard that. That's very good news.> > -- > David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu> "Saturn comes back around to show you everything> Lets you choose what you will not see and then> Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again> Spits you out like a child, light and innocent." The Grudge - TOOL> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:45:15 +0000> From: Steve Freight > Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4> > Hi Gordon,> > They do actually confess that they do not have the start as they were late> turning on the recorder. It's in the body of the booklet somewhere.> > Steve> > > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley wrote:> Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's> still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade-> in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell> can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've> destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened?> > Gordon.> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:03:01 -0600> From: DOG ROT ANIMAL > Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > it's a blessed sunshiny day dallas way.......wasn't going to put eric> johnson the moon kitty from beyond the stars on the forum any further, but> the vet he saw today was what I thought the day heralded, no-nonsense,> straight-forward....said eric won't be losing his leg (which wasn't reported> yesterday), said kitty probably sat in *fertilizer, *or a car engine,> etc.....kitty stays with me, gets bandages changed every other day.........> *fabulous info on the Steve Wilson experience and equally dazzling on the Ed> Wynne experience, guess I better figure out how to tuck in a shirt with the> beer-belly and guts up toward a (cough,> ghasp)..j.....ja.......(cough)....jah......*> *I can't say it.......*> *there's this extremely large luvpack I just signed for that sopmebody sent> the EJ experience from NY......*> *I wish I could remember who.......*> > > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley wrote:> >> > On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote:> >> > > a last note> > > the cat is going she has a connection through her work.....> > > but _I did_ have to fight> > > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment> > > where four> > > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I> > > have> > > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue)> > > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust> > > with them> > > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is> > > nooooooo doubt> > > positive thoughts please> > > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care> >> > I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks.> >> > > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video> > > with kids> > > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds> > > like where> > > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an> > > opening> > > act called "3" or "three".....*> > > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again*> > > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the> > > nice> > > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us> > > and doing> > > good*> > > *peace*> >> > Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't> > doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only> > had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that> > we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was> > very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they> > wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd> > was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break> > for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do> > 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any> > US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour> > swings around again.> >> > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their> > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now> > that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal> > with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon.> >> > Gordon> >> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:12:15 -0400> From: Gordon Hundley > Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers CD 0999 503235 2 4> > Ah, okay. So it wasn't edited down to convenient vinyl sized chunk at > all, its simply a case of "dude, have you turned the recorder on > yet?", "no, Dave said that Tommy was doing it", "dude, you are > Tommy", "oh yeah, right". Toke.> > ;)> > Gordon.> > On Oct 30, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Steve Freight wrote:> > > Hi Gordon,> >> > They do actually confess that they do not have the start as they > > were late> > turning on the recorder. It's in the body of the booklet somewhere.> >> > Steve> >> >> > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley wrote:> > Just as with the original vinyl and earlier CD releases, there's> > still around ten minutes missing from Spunk Rock prior to the fade-> > in. This is the best attempt so far, I suppose, but why the hell> > can't they release the whole thing or at least fess up that they've> > destroyed their archival copies if that's what has happened?> >> > Gordon.> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:29:24 -0600> From: DOG ROT ANIMAL > Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > Hey Gordon,> This is Robin after the fact and concert in Dallas. It was fantastic. One> thing though! I want to know how you know so much about Pt as well as Oz> Ten? I am loving all their work. YOU can respond to me directly at> abigstepup at yahoo.com> it is definitely a start in the right direction. at any rate. i hate the> fact that our government visa b--s--t. keeps these great talented people> from coming around. as far as i am concerend DFW is full of freaks and great> talent as well as good rockers. I hail from Chicao area and they rock just> about the same. at my age i have been throught at least 15 types of various> rock seguays. let me knowwhat you think. cheers! Robin> > On 10/30/07, Gordon Hundley wrote:> >> > On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:02 PM, DOG ROT ANIMAL wrote:> >> > > a last note> > > the cat is going she has a connection through her work.....> > > but _I did_ have to fight> > > she wants (it would seem) ultimately to take it to her apartment> > > where four> > > other cats are, and then take it to work with her if needed when I> > > have> > > nothing but time and love (my friend certainly couldn't argue)> > > I am not going so I don't cause any scene and as my act of trust> > > with them> > > but this one loves and trusts me above all others and of that there is> > > nooooooo doubt> > > positive thoughts please> > > i am not retarded, just unfamiliar with feline emergency care> >> > I hope the cat gets well. But you are now without him? That sucks.> >> > > *my friend Robin who _did_ make the Porcupine show talked of video> > > with kids> > > popping pills and a message of more caring for the world, sounds> > > like where> > > I'm at....she actually seemed equally if not more impressed by an> > > opening> > > act called "3" or "three".....*> > > *here's hoping they ever get to Tejas again*> > > *we never saw the Ozric's a second time, and speaking of I hope the> > > nice> > > forum participant who can hear himself on the live CD is with us> > > and doing> > > good*> > > *peace*> >> > Porcupine Tree will be back in your area before too long, I don't> > doubt. Texas hasn't been one of the primary markets, so they've only> > had shows every other year rather than a couple of times a year that> > we spoilt folks in the NE have had. But by all accounts, the band was> > very impressed with the audiences, and even said of Dallas that they> > wished that they had brought recording equipment because the crowd> > was so good. As far as I know, 2008 is largely going to be a break> > for PT, and they have no commitments or plans, but they expect to do> > 'a handful' of gigs in major cities. Which may or may not include any> > US gigs. Probably 2009 on the next album cycle before any real tour> > swings around again.> >> > The Ozrics had the inevitable visa troubles affecting most of their> > planned US gigs this year, but managed to pull one off. However, now> > that Joie & Merv are back, I presume there are more visas to deal> > with. Here's hoping a proper US tour comes together soon.> >> > Gordon> >> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:34:54 -0500> From: vzenv14m > Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty> > I want to thank that guy from NYC as well. For a "capitalist son of a> bitch," as you put it, you're all right.> > Love to you, your mate, and the little ones,> > Mary> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:36:59 -0500> From: vzenv14m > Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty Ozrics> > I hadn't heard they'd rejoined either, I hope they make it back next year.> > Kaduflyer> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:46:27 EDT> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM> Subject: Re: (OFF) Love/Missing PT/Kitty, kitty's going to be all right> > In a message dated 10/30/2007 2:09:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET writes:> > > Fertilizer!! Wot the f**K is Coleman doin down there, making bombs? I sure > as hell know he ain't growin corn, or is this ethanol scam starting to trickle > down?> Looking forward to the further adventures of 'Lil Mike and Kitty Hawk' > ...ohhh gawd i gotta get a life.> Hi Mare Mare! BTW string is NO GOOD let Tosh know.> > bsny> > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com> > ------------------------------> > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:54:56 -0000> From: trev > Subject: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > Yesssssssssssss.> > I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the editing > stage.> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in > 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour> line up:> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy Grenias > (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the > present Space Ritual rather interesting.> > trev> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Allen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> > > > See my comments below:> >> > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct > > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> >> >> >> >> 28th October 2007> >> The Underworld> >> 174 Camden High Street> >> London> >> NW1 0NE> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> >> Pistols and Earthling Society)> >> >> >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented,> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus> > into producing new t-shirt designs.> >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea.> >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam,> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a very > > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was > > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were > > probably played the best set on the night.> >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs,> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance> > again.> >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes,> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon,> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and> > possibly some help.> >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to be > > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him > > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was the > > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were no > > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when > > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space Ritual. > > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened than > > you were.> >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known.> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't> > really much for anyone else.> >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind,> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> > Jon> >> > -- > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > > > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:29:12 -0600> From: DOG ROT ANIMAL > Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like> one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of> that.......> I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in the> states> bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being> carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney into> the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know> I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs> I deserved it> > > On 10/30/07, trev wrote:> >> > Yesssssssssssss.> >> > I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the editing> > stage.> > The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in> > 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour> > line up:> > Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy> > Grenias> > (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh> > It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the> > present Space Ritual rather interesting.> >> > trev> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Colin Allen" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM> > Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> >> >> > > See my comments below:> > >> > > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, Oct> > > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> > >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> > >> > >> > >> > >> 28th October 2007> > >> The Underworld> > >> 174 Camden High Street> > >> London> > >> NW1 0NE> > >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> > >> Pistols and Earthling Society)> > >> > >> > >> > > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and> > > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented,> > > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus> > > into producing new t-shirt designs.> > >> > > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea.> > >> > > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam,> > > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost> > > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their> > > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the> > > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of the> > > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about> > > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an> > > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit his> > > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw> > > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> > >> > > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a> > very> > > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was> > > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were> > > probably played the best set on the night.> > >> > > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they> > > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, other> > > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an> > > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde> > > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been> > > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar Broughton> > > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they> > > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far> > > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for> > > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to> > > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols> > > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs were> > > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer> > > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be credited> > > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all> > > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a happily> > > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too> > > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being> > > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely> > > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album> > > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the> > > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> > >> > > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that> > > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this> > > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and> > > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken> > > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but> > > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs,> > > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were> > > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and> > > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for too> > > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a performance> > > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap> > > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. As> > > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance> > > again.> > >> > > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at> > > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a> > > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two minutes,> > > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and at> > > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be> > > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon,> > > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with> > > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or> > > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to> > > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we> > > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point> > > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what goes> > > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and> > > possibly some help.> > >> > > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to> > be> > > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him> > > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was> > the> > > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were> > no> > > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially when> > > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space> > Ritual.> > > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened> > than> > > you were.> > >> > > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known.> > > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting> > > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has> > > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and the> > > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down> > > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too> > > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with> > > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer> > > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I> > > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd> > > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old> > > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues> > > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them> > > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans in> > > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually> > > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences> > > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't> > > really much for anyone else.> > >> > > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind,> > > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright> > > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a> > > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar> > > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> > > Jon> > >> > > --> > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> > > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> > > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > >> >> > ------------------------------> > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:22:49 -0000> From: trev > Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > European Space Ritual...European Space Ritual> I'll blow that Helios wotsit off anyday> > is/was Paul Fox in Farflung????> > .and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:29 AM> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > > > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like> > one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of> > that.......> > I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in the> > states> > bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being> > carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney into> > the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know> > I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs> > I deserved it> >> >> > On 10/30/07, trev wrote:> >>> >> Yesssssssssssss.> >>> >> I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the > >> editing> >> stage.> >> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in> >> 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour> >> line up:> >> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy> >> Grenias> >> (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh> >> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the> >> present Space Ritual rather interesting.> >>> >> trev> >> ----- Original Message -----> >> From: "Colin Allen" > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM> >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> >>> >>> >> > See my comments below:> >> >> >> > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, > >> > Oct> >> > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> >> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 28th October 2007> >> >> The Underworld> >> >> 174 Camden High Street> >> >> London> >> >> NW1 0NE> >> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> >> >> Pistols and Earthling Society)> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and> >> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented,> >> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured Litmus> >> > into producing new t-shirt designs.> >> >> >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea.> >> >> >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam,> >> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost> >> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of their> >> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the> >> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of > >> > the> >> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about> >> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was an> >> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit > >> > his> >> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I saw> >> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> >> >> >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a> >> very> >> > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set was> >> > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were> >> > probably played the best set on the night.> >> >> >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they> >> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, > >> > other> >> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an> >> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde> >> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been> >> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar > >> > Broughton> >> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they> >> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far> >> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point for> >> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to> >> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols> >> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs > >> > were> >> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer> >> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be > >> > credited> >> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all> >> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a > >> > happily> >> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too> >> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being> >> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely> >> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album> >> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save the> >> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> >> >> >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that> >> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts this> >> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and> >> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken> >> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but> >> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete songs,> >> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were> >> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and> >> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for > >> > too> >> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a > >> > performance> >> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to wrap> >> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff. > >> > As> >> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance> >> > again.> >> >> >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at> >> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was a> >> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two > >> > minutes,> >> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and > >> > at> >> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be> >> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon,> >> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with> >> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or> >> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to> >> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, we> >> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point> >> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what > >> > goes> >> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and> >> > possibly some help.> >> >> >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed to> >> be> >> > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left him> >> > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This was> >> the> >> > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs were> >> no> >> > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially > >> > when> >> > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space> >> Ritual.> >> > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened> >> than> >> > you were.> >> >> >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known.> >> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by recruiting> >> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has> >> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and > >> > the> >> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold down> >> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too> >> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with> >> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the drummer> >> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't, I> >> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if you'd> >> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old> >> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues> >> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them> >> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans > >> > in> >> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually> >> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences> >> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't> >> > really much for anyone else.> >> >> >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind,> >> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; outright> >> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on a> >> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar> >> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> >> > Jon> >> >> >> > --> >> > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> >> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> >> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> >> >> >>> > > > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:30:48 EDT> From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > In a message dated 10/30/2007 10:24:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM writes:> > i Yes, and Pressurehed too> > > > . Kitty has eaten all the X's and is drinking the bath water..doh!!> > bsny> > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:31:26 -0600> From: DOG ROT ANIMAL > Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> > 1) uhh, I'll go for that> 2) Paul is kewel> 3) no> 4) it's hot baths, more than anyone ever> 5) even though your the "writer", like the UFO song which is great, watch> it, or I'll get BAS associates, you you you...nevemind> mc cold clamey bombing DRA, future leader of the USA revolt in the streets> > > On 10/30/07, trev wrote:> >> > European Space Ritual...European Space Ritual> > I'll blow that Helios wotsit off anyday> >> > is/was Paul Fox in Farflung????> >> > .and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:29 AM> > Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier> >> >> > > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like> > > one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of> > > that.......> > > I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in> > the> > > states> > > bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being> > > carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney> > into> > > the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know> > > I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs> > > I deserved it> > >> > >> > > On 10/30/07, trev wrote:> > >>> > >> Yesssssssssssss.> > >>> > >> I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the> > >> editing> > >> stage.> > >> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg in> > >> 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour> > >> line up:> > >> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy> > >> Grenias> > >> (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh> > >> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the> > >> present Space Ritual rather interesting.> > >>> > >> trev> > >> ----- Original Message -----> > >> From: "Colin Allen" > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM> > >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates> > >>> > >>> > >> > See my comments below:> > >> >> > >> > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue,> > >> > Oct> > >> > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out:> > >> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled:> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> 28th October 2007> > >> >> The Underworld> > >> >> 174 Camden High Street> > >> >> London> > >> >> NW1 0NE> > >> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans> > >> >> Pistols and Earthling Society)> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and> > >> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently represented,> > >> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured> > Litmus> > >> > into producing new t-shirt designs.> > >> >> > >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea.> > >> >> > >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam,> > >> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost> > >> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of> > their> > >> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the> > >> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of> > >> > the> > >> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise about> > >> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was> > an> > >> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit> > >> > his> > >> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I> > saw> > >> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest.> > >> >> > >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are a> > >> very> > >> > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set> > was> > >> > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they were> > >> > probably played the best set on the night.> > >> >> > >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they> > >> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair,> > >> > other> > >> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an> > >> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at Hyde> > >> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been> > >> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar> > >> > Broughton> > >> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they> > >> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far> > >> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point> > for> > >> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going to> > >> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the Pistols> > >> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs> > >> > were> > >> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer> > >> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be> > >> > credited> > >> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all> > >> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a> > >> > happily> > >> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too> > >> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being> > >> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall definitely> > >> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album> > >> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save> > the> > >> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt.> > >> >> > >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that> > >> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts> > this> > >> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and> > >> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken> > >> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but> > >> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete> > songs,> > >> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were> > >> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and> > >> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for> > >> > too> > >> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a> > >> > performance> > >> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to> > wrap> > >> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the riff.> > >> > As> > >> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance> > >> > again.> > >> >> > >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at> > >> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which was> > a> > >> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two> > >> > minutes,> > >> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", and> > >> > at> > >> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be> > >> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon,> > >> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with> > >> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or> > >> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to> > >> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting,> > we> > >> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point> > >> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what> > >> > goes> > >> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and> > >> > possibly some help.> > >> >> > >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed> > to> > >> be> > >> > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left> > him> > >> > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This> > was> > >> the> > >> > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs> > were> > >> no> > >> > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially> > >> > when> > >> > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space> > >> Ritual.> > >> > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what happened> > >> than> > >> > you were.> > >> >> > >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known.> > >> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by> > recruiting> > >> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this has> > >> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and> > >> > the> > >> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold> > down> > >> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too> > >> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with> > >> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the> > drummer> > >> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they didn't,> > I> > >> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if> > you'd> > >> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an old> > >> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub blues> > >> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with them> > >> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big fans> > >> > in> > >> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually> > >> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from experiences> > >> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't> > >> > really much for anyone else.> > >> >> > >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind,> > >> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place;> > outright> > >> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them on> > a> > >> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar> > >> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours,> > >> > Jon> > >> >> > >> > --> > >> > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"> > >> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)> > >> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > ------------------------------> > End of BOC-L Digest - 30 Oct 2007 - Special issue (#2007-278)> ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf?. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 31 11:07:14 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (SHORT SHARP SHOCK) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:07:14 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Steven Wilson Message-ID: was barefoot in Dallas god I love that so the ones i know in my very very limited experience by comparison would be 1) that cold blue Skynyrd singer 2) that Pink Fairies dude who sang FOOLS 3) The God Of Sonic Priesthood who I caught doing it, think 'is name is Trevie 4) Stevie Wonder Wilson From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Oct 31 12:00:13 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:00:13 -0000 Subject: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier Message-ID: a. what is BAS b. what is DRA i know USA not that i care of course...me being a big star and all that it is the original space ritual, the guitarist and synthesizer player are different (better) that's all, mr know all cole hole anyway, i've just finished editing the new space ritual album. it is called SPACE RITUAL - NAKED '94 (provisional) it is a desk mix from the 25 date euro tour, from the jazzhaus, freiburg, 25th may 1994. i found it on a cassette in a trunk. it's fantastic..i honestly like it a lot. it has mark 10 blanga and it is suitably rough enough to badly offend any anorack types who might like to criticise it. tommy grenias and paul fox are wonderful. they have mounted their war elephants and i personally saw them trample over 1000 orks to pulp during orgone accumulator alone. i'm a bit low in the mix as usual because it is a desk mix and my mighty marshall hardly needs to go through any puny pa to be heard. nik and rik are fine. jo blake is THE DEFINITIVE space rock drummer. he is a rock with beautifuly sensitive ears. i'm exited, now i have to get a cover pic...who shall i steal it off... trev p.s. and mr coley wolly texy wexy, i might remind you, that without cold baths, the british empire would never have come into existence...harumph! ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:31 AM Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier > 1) uhh, I'll go for that > 2) Paul is kewel > 3) no > 4) it's hot baths, more than anyone ever > 5) even though your the "writer", like the UFO song which is great, watch > it, or I'll get BAS associates, you you you...nevemind > mc cold clamey bombing DRA, future leader of the USA revolt in the streets > > > On 10/30/07, trev wrote: >> >> European Space Ritual...European Space Ritual >> I'll blow that Helios wotsit off anyday >> >> is/was Paul Fox in Farflung???? >> >> .and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:29 AM >> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier >> >> >> > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like >> > one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of >> > that....... >> > I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you in >> the >> > states >> > bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being >> > carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney >> into >> > the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know >> > I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs >> > I deserved it >> > >> > >> > On 10/30/07, trev wrote: >> >> >> >> Yesssssssssssss. >> >> >> >> I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the >> >> editing >> >> stage. >> >> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg >> >> in >> >> 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour >> >> line up: >> >> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy >> >> Grenias >> >> (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh >> >> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with the >> >> present Space Ritual rather interesting. >> >> >> >> trev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Colin Allen" >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM >> >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates >> >> >> >> >> >> > See my comments below: >> >> > >> >> > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Tue, >> >> > Oct >> >> > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: >> >> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> 28th October 2007 >> >> >> The Underworld >> >> >> 174 Camden High Street >> >> >> London >> >> >> NW1 0NE >> >> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans >> >> >> Pistols and Earthling Society) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and >> >> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently >> >> > represented, >> >> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured >> Litmus >> >> > into producing new t-shirt designs. >> >> > >> >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. >> >> > >> >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, >> >> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost >> >> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of >> their >> >> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed the >> >> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination of >> >> > the >> >> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise >> >> > about >> >> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did was >> an >> >> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really hit >> >> > his >> >> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I >> saw >> >> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest. >> >> > >> >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who are >> >> > a >> >> very >> >> > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their set >> was >> >> > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they >> >> > were >> >> > probably played the best set on the night. >> >> > >> >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they >> >> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, >> >> > other >> >> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an >> >> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at >> >> > Hyde >> >> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had been >> >> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar >> >> > Broughton >> >> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself they >> >> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band far >> >> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point >> for >> >> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going >> >> > to >> >> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the >> >> > Pistols >> >> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the songs >> >> > were >> >> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer >> >> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be >> >> > credited >> >> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all >> >> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a >> >> > happily >> >> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too >> >> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being >> >> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall >> >> > definitely >> >> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album >> >> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to save >> the >> >> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt. >> >> > >> >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that >> >> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts >> this >> >> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and >> >> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have taken >> >> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but >> >> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete >> songs, >> >> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were >> >> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and >> >> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed for >> >> > too >> >> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a >> >> > performance >> >> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to >> wrap >> >> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the >> >> > riff. >> >> > As >> >> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could dance >> >> > again. >> >> > >> >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at >> >> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which >> >> > was >> a >> >> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two >> >> > minutes, >> >> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", >> >> > and >> >> > at >> >> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be >> >> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, >> >> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up with >> >> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or >> >> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared to >> >> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid spacewasting, >> we >> >> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a point >> >> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know what >> >> > goes >> >> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and >> >> > possibly some help. >> >> > >> >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is supposed >> to >> >> be >> >> > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left >> him >> >> > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This >> was >> >> the >> >> > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs >> were >> >> no >> >> > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, especially >> >> > when >> >> > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space >> >> Ritual. >> >> > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what >> >> > happened >> >> than >> >> > you were. >> >> > >> >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. >> >> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by >> recruiting >> >> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this >> >> > has >> >> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred and >> >> > the >> >> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold >> down >> >> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked too >> >> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with >> >> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the >> drummer >> >> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they >> >> > didn't, >> I >> >> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if >> you'd >> >> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an >> >> > old >> >> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub >> >> > blues >> >> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with >> >> > them >> >> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big >> >> > fans >> >> > in >> >> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks actually >> >> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from >> >> > experiences >> >> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't >> >> > really much for anyone else. >> >> > >> >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, >> >> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; >> outright >> >> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them >> >> > on >> a >> >> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone guitar >> >> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours, >> >> > Jon >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of >> >> > elephants?" >> >> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) >> >> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 31 12:29:56 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (SHORT SHARP SHOCK) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:29:56 -0600 Subject: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oh relax remember you said on list nobody loved you sniff sob ps-BAS isn't for me to reveal, I l already said too much...but I will say this,,,,there's lots of them they are tough good thing they like you, so long as you're under my protective majick On 10/31/07, trev wrote: > > a. what is BAS > b. what is DRA > i know USA > not that i care of course...me being a big star and all that > it is the original space ritual, the guitarist and synthesizer player are > different (better) that's all, mr know all cole hole > > > > anyway, i've just finished editing the new space ritual album. it is > called > SPACE RITUAL - NAKED '94 (provisional) > it is a desk mix from the 25 date euro tour, from the jazzhaus, freiburg, > 25th may 1994. > i found it on a cassette in a trunk. > it's fantastic..i honestly like it a lot. it has mark 10 blanga and it is > suitably rough enough to badly offend any anorack types who might like to > criticise it. > tommy grenias and paul fox are wonderful. they have mounted their war > elephants and i personally saw them trample over 1000 orks to pulp during > orgone accumulator alone. > i'm a bit low in the mix as usual because it is a desk mix and my mighty > marshall hardly needs to go through any puny pa to be heard. nik and rik > are fine. jo blake is THE DEFINITIVE space rock drummer. he is a rock with > beautifuly sensitive ears. > > i'm exited, > > now i have to get a cover pic...who shall i steal it off... > > trev > > p.s. and mr coley wolly texy wexy, i might remind you, that without cold > baths, the british empire would never have come into existence...harumph! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:31 AM > Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier > > > > 1) uhh, I'll go for that > > 2) Paul is kewel > > 3) no > > 4) it's hot baths, more than anyone ever > > 5) even though your the "writer", like the UFO song which is great, > watch > > it, or I'll get BAS associates, you you you...nevemind > > mc cold clamey bombing DRA, future leader of the USA revolt in the > streets > > > > > > On 10/30/07, trev wrote: > >> > >> European Space Ritual...European Space Ritual > >> I'll blow that Helios wotsit off anyday > >> > >> is/was Paul Fox in Farflung???? > >> > >> .and stop taking Xanax - take cold baths instead > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "DOG ROT ANIMAL" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:29 AM > >> Subject: Re: Jarret slags off Litmus - Yamato rams Thames Barrier > >> > >> > >> > Dear star of word composition and beloved forum-resident god-like > >> > one.....put the other T and you never know what good could come of > >> > that....... > >> > I won't even question "original" since it's true I didn't catch you > in > >> the > >> > states > >> > bare with me on your personal request, I've got a kidney stone being > >> > carefully attenuated in prayer I can keep it from sending the kidney > >> into > >> > the shock that feels like.......you don't wanna know > >> > I need you to hire me on a couple USA mail-out jobs, my Xanax costs > >> > I deserved it > >> > > >> > > >> > On 10/30/07, trev wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Yesssssssssssss. > >> >> > >> >> I'd just like to say that there is a new Space Ritual album in the > >> >> editing > >> >> stage. > >> >> The original Space Ritual, I mean. It was recorded live in Freiburg > >> >> in > >> >> 1994, part of the first European Space Ritual tour > >> >> line up: > >> >> Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Commander Jim Hawkman(ICU), Paul Fox, Tommy > >> >> Grenias > >> >> (Farflung),Jo Blake, Rik Welsh > >> >> It is a desk mix album, but I think you'll find the contrast with > the > >> >> present Space Ritual rather interesting. > >> >> > >> >> trev > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Colin Allen" > >> >> To: > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:38 AM > >> >> Subject: Re: HW: Litmus Dates > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > See my comments below: > >> >> > > >> >> > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On > Tue, > >> >> > Oct > >> >> > 09, 2007 at 09:18:38AM +0100, Colin Allen typed out: > >> >> >> Uber-Space Rockers Litmus have the following dates scheduled: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> 28th October 2007 > >> >> >> The Underworld > >> >> >> 174 Camden High Street > >> >> >> London > >> >> >> NW1 0NE > >> >> >> (2nd night of the All Hallows Festival with Leafhound, Gentlemans > >> >> >> Pistols and Earthling Society) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Well, I was there, and with a reasonable head of beer on too and > >> >> > so prepared to enjoy many things. All the bands decently > >> >> > represented, > >> >> > which was nice; also good to see that Rise Above have belaboured > >> Litmus > >> >> > into producing new t-shirt designs. > >> >> > > >> >> > No, they had not; the t-shirts were the band's idea. > >> >> > > >> >> > Earthling Society were first up and opened with a slow jam, > >> >> > which may not have been the best way to go about it; Sherman lost > >> >> > interest quite rapidly and disappeared to the loo for the rest of > >> their > >> >> > set, of which this was about a third. This meant that she missed > the > >> >> > bits where they actually did something, including the culmination > of > >> >> > the > >> >> > jam where they'd piled so much in that just shunting that noise > >> >> > about > >> >> > began to have an intensity of its own. The second track they did > was > >> an > >> >> > actual song, and not a bad one even, but the singer can't really > hit > >> >> > his > >> >> > notes, and their playing is nothing remarkable, and by and large I > >> saw > >> >> > nothing in this set that did more than catch my interest. > >> >> > > >> >> > I do feel that this is rather unfair on Earthling Society, who > are > >> >> > a > >> >> very > >> >> > good band; this was not an ideal environment for them but their > set > >> was > >> >> > both enjoyable and musically of very high quality. For me, they > >> >> > were > >> >> > probably played the best set on the night. > >> >> > > >> >> > Of an entirely different stamp were Gentleman's Pistols. As they > >> >> > were setting up I took stock of the general amount of facial hair, > >> >> > other > >> >> > hair, vintage instrumentation and swagger, and was reminded of an > >> >> > interview I read once with Mick Farren about the Deviants gig at > >> >> > Hyde > >> >> > Park. I can't remember who exactly it was that the Deviants had > been > >> >> > sandwiched between for that gig, but one of them was the Edgar > >> >> > Broughton > >> >> > band, and Mick told of how he'd been unable to convince himself > they > >> >> > could catch the audience, what with being stuck between one band > far > >> >> > heavier and another far cleverer. And Paul Rudolph found the point > >> for > >> >> > them to stand on by coming to the mic and saying, "Now we're going > >> >> > to > >> >> > have some fun". This was what I found myself expecting as the > >> >> > Pistols > >> >> > took the stage. I wasn't wrong either. I think a third of the > songs > >> >> > were > >> >> > about masturbation or other unsavoury sexual practices, the singer > >> >> > (whose hair and beard were most outrageous of all) needed to be > >> >> > credited > >> >> > for camp as well as guitar, posing and vocals, and they were all > >> >> > enjoying themselves hugely playing loud fuzzy rock and roll of a > >> >> > happily > >> >> > filthy kind. No-one could accuse them of taking themselves too > >> >> > seriously, but you certainly couldn't have accused them of being > >> >> > under-rehearsed either; this band is worth seeing. I shall > >> >> > definitely > >> >> > hope to catch them again, and I only held off on buying the album > >> >> > because it was clear that Sherman was going to and I wanted to > save > >> the > >> >> > money for a new Litmus t-shirt. > >> >> > > >> >> > So Litmus had a lot to follow, although I was confident that > >> >> > they could manage it. However, I'm not sure they made any converts > >> this > >> >> > night in the event. A four-track set, half of which was new and > >> >> > unfinished material, and much of which was jamming, would have > taken > >> >> > over and stolen Earthling Society's thunder with no problem but > >> >> > following people who'd been playing short, furious and complete > >> songs, > >> >> > Litmus unfortunately looked rather amateur. The known songs were > >> >> > `Infinity Drive', which was ugly and brutal but in a good way, and > >> >> > has a new break now, and `Under the Sign', which probably jammed > for > >> >> > too > >> >> > long; I think it's possible that Litmus might benefit from a > >> >> > performance > >> >> > rule that says once they drop the ball once in a jam it's time to > >> wrap > >> >> > it up and remind the audience who's boss by getting back to the > >> >> > riff. > >> >> > As > >> >> > it was it was a long time to wait for the bit where one could > dance > >> >> > again. > >> >> > > >> >> > The new stuff had its parts but they were spaced out too far at > >> >> > the moment. The worst of it was that during the last track, which > >> >> > was > >> a > >> >> > monster in terms of time but only came to a focus for about two > >> >> > minutes, > >> >> > I found myself thinking, "Marek [the drummer] is wasted on this", > >> >> > and > >> >> > at > >> >> > any other time I wouldn't usually notice him because I'd be > >> >> > concentrating on the stringsmen. From this I conclude that Simon, > >> >> > especially, but also Martin to a lesser extent, need to come up > with > >> >> > some new tricks, or perhaps focus on song structure a bit more, or > >> >> > mainly, I suspect, finally get a new keyboardist and be prepared > to > >> >> > endure him or her saying, "guys, guys, this is flaccid > spacewasting, > >> we > >> >> > can do better than this". It may not always be true but it's a > point > >> >> > they perhaps need to be readier to hear. So I don't quite know > what > >> >> > goes > >> >> > on in Litmus camp at this time, but I think it needs some work and > >> >> > possibly some help. > >> >> > > >> >> > Unfortunately, you did not hear the new material as it is > supposed > >> to > >> >> be > >> >> > heard due to the untimely death of Simon's pedal board, which left > >> him > >> >> > playing solely through his amp without any effects whatever. This > >> was > >> >> the > >> >> > cause of the somewhat stilted jamming as, to an extent, the songs > >> were > >> >> no > >> >> > longer really playable. Due to this, it was a poor set, > especially > >> >> > when > >> >> > compared with the recent performance in Brighton supporting Space > >> >> Ritual. > >> >> > I suspect that the band are even more disappointed with what > >> >> > happened > >> >> than > >> >> > you were. > >> >> > > >> >> > Headliners were Leafhound, of whom I probably should have known. > >> >> > They have done a Nektar- or Blue-Cheer-like rejuvenation by > >> recruiting > >> >> > one new younger member, but I don't know how much difference this > >> >> > has > >> >> > made. The guitarist is the new boy, and definitely had the shred > and > >> >> > the > >> >> > widdle, a Vai fan I suspect, whilst also being quite ready to hold > >> down > >> >> > the riff where necessary, and apart from the fact that he looked > too > >> >> > damn clean compared to the rest of the band I had no problem with > >> >> > considering him part of the deal. And the bassist was fine, the > >> drummer > >> >> > and singer both clearly still had what they'd had, or if they > >> >> > didn't, > >> I > >> >> > didn't know, not knowing the original. Let me put it this way: if > >> you'd > >> >> > only been able to hear them, you wouldn't have known they were an > >> >> > old > >> >> > band. What you might have thought, however, is "why is this pub > >> >> > blues > >> >> > band headlining in the Underworld?" There was nothing wrong with > >> >> > them > >> >> > but they were some way off being special. I guess there were big > >> >> > fans > >> >> > in > >> >> > the audience who were pleased to see their favourite tracks > actually > >> >> > being done right, and I can certainly relate to that from > >> >> > experiences > >> >> > with other bands, but I couldn't join them there and there wasn't > >> >> > really much for anyone else. > >> >> > > >> >> > So yes. Earthling Society and Leafhound come in some way behind, > >> >> > Litmus suffering creative injuries and scrape a second place; > >> outright > >> >> > victory by a long way to Gentleman's Pistols. If we could get them > >> >> > on > >> a > >> >> > bill with Gorilla and Drunk Horse the resultant testosterone > guitar > >> >> > explosion would probably level the venue. Yours, > >> >> > Jon > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of > >> >> > elephants?" > >> >> > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > >> >> > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at > chiark.greenend.org.uk > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > From drgoon at MAC.COM Wed Oct 31 13:59:32 2007 From: drgoon at MAC.COM (Gordon Hundley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:59:32 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Steven Wilson In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710310807k2e8ffd17x3f401ea16533c36a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Oct 31, 2007, at 11:07 AM, SHORT SHARP SHOCK wrote: > was barefoot in Dallas > god I love that ... is always barefoot on stage - he tours with a rug that gets taped to the stage wherever they play. Henry Rollins used to be barefoot on stage most of the time back in the 80s, Lenny Kravitz too. Bjork still prefers not to wear shoes at most gigs, and the in the videos I've seen of that Joss Stone lass, she tends to be barefoot. "Fools" would have been Larry Wallis... though I think he was always wearing shoes (boots?) when I saw him with the Fairies (80s reunion period). They were pretty sticky-floored venues though. Gordon. From tjackson at SYR.EDU Wed Oct 31 14:13:34 2007 From: tjackson at SYR.EDU (Theodore O Jackson) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:13:34 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Steven Wilson In-Reply-To: A<52452ED8-0892-4FAB-94F0-5F0FB1D3E177@mac.com> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Gordon Hundley Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:00 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: (OFF) Steven Wilson On Oct 31, 2007, at 11:07 AM, SHORT SHARP SHOCK wrote: > was barefoot in Dallas > god I love that ... is always barefoot on stage - he tours with a rug that gets taped to the stage wherever they play. Henry Rollins used to be barefoot on stage most of the time back in the 80s, Lenny Kravitz too. Bjork still prefers not to wear shoes at most gigs, and the in the videos I've seen of that Joss Stone lass, she tends to be barefoot. Yah, but the original barefoot singer was Ronnie van Zandt of Lynyrd Skynyrd... theo From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 31 14:19:27 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:19:27 +0000 Subject: (OFF) Steven Wilson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: or Sandie Shaw! On 10/31/07, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On Behalf Of Gordon Hundley > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:00 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF) Steven Wilson > > On Oct 31, 2007, at 11:07 AM, SHORT SHARP SHOCK wrote: > > > was barefoot in Dallas > > god I love that > > ... is always barefoot on stage - he tours with a rug that gets taped > to the stage wherever they play. Henry Rollins used to be barefoot on > stage most of the time back in the 80s, Lenny Kravitz too. Bjork > still prefers not to wear shoes at most gigs, and the in the videos > I've seen of that Joss Stone lass, she tends to be barefoot. > > > Yah, but the original barefoot singer was Ronnie van Zandt > of Lynyrd Skynyrd... > > > theo > From tim at KALYR.COM Wed Oct 31 14:50:31 2007 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:50:31 +0000 Subject: (OFF) Steven Wilson In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710310807k2e8ffd17x3f401ea16533c36a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: SHORT SHARP SHOCK wrote: > was barefoot in Dallas > god I love that > so the ones i know in my very very limited experience by comparison would > be > 1) that cold blue Skynyrd singer > 2) that Pink Fairies dude who sang FOOLS > 3) The God Of Sonic Priesthood who I caught doing it, think 'is name is > Trevie > 4) Stevie Wonder Wilson Angie Gordon (Keys/Flute/Backing Vox for Mostly Autumn) usually goes barefoot on stage. Not something I'd want to do in some of the grungier venues I've seen them play. -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Oct 31 22:06:37 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (SHORT SHARP SHOCK) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:06:37 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Steven Wilson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <^>"Yah, but the original barefoot singer was Ronnie van Zandt <^>of Lynyrd Skynyrd..." <^>theo alright Theo! (and everyone else!!!) other than my most fortunate luck of having an Ace up the sleeve (Trev), it should be obvious that I'm rather nobody at all.... at any rate, at least I got the Skynyrd one right, and listed him first as for Kravitz, I'd never know...see him as cool but can't really stand most of his tunes, seems a poser mixture to me......(no offense on anyone, Bjork hurts people in airports and messed up my TAT LP, and the others are expertise I don't have...). _*HOWEVER_ Wallis of the "I'm not sleepin' in a field" ilk, got booted from UFO for unprofessionally not wearing shoes......I always thought (as well as getting drunk and telling Mogg off, which is fine with me because Mick Bolton was the shit to me) , until you folks who are my teachers correct me??? that's why I listed him, and lastly* *can we please scoot Nik and Dave aside for Judge, and simply realise he is his own man, despite at this point in his career he looks to Nik for a few reasons some are private but I can tell you he is NOT a Dave Brock detractor.........**......he's fun......* ps-Kravitz clogs toilets....did anyone else see that show???? From drgoon at MAC.COM Wed Oct 31 23:41:30 2007 From: drgoon at MAC.COM (Gordon Hundley) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:41:30 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Steven Wilson In-Reply-To: <17d80c610710311906r2977912q7a112bc0c6af17ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:06 PM, SHORT SHARP SHOCK wrote: > (no offense on anyone, Bjork > hurts people in airports and messed up my TAT LP, and the others are > expertise I don't have...). Bjork assaulted your copy of Travelers Aid Trust?! Damn, I personally always thought she had some Hippy Slag in her. And I ain't talking about Tricky. > _*HOWEVER_ Wallis of the "I'm not sleepin' in a field" ilk, got > booted from > UFO for unprofessionally not wearing shoes......I always thought > (as well as > getting drunk and telling Mogg off, which is fine with me because Mick > Bolton was the shit to me) , until you folks who are my teachers > correct > me??? that's why I listed him, and lastly* Wallis did good without those UFO lads... and the boy Schenker did them all right for a few years too. I feel a need to listen to Kings of Oblivion now. When's the Fun Begin? > *can we please scoot Nik and Dave aside for Judge, and simply > realise he is > his own man, despite at this point in his career he looks to Nik > for a few > reasons some are private but I can tell you he is NOT a Dave Brock > detractor.........**......he's fun......* Yes. Alright then. Gordon. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Oct 31 23:48:06 2007 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:48:06 EDT Subject: (OFF) Steven Wilson Message-ID: In a message dated 10/31/2007 2:56:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tim at KALYR.COM writes: ----- Original Mes Edward Ka-Spel of The Legendary Pink Dots.......... ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Freight To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Wednesday, 31 October, 2007 7:19:27 PM Subject: Re: (OFF) Steven Wilson or Sandie Shaw! On 10/31/07, Theodore O Jackson wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On Behalf Of Gordon Hundley > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:00 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: (OFF) Steven Wilson > > On Oct 31, 2007, at 11:07 AM, SHORT SHARP SHOCK wrote: > > > was barefoot in Dallas > > god I love that > > ... is always barefoot on stage - he tours with a rug that gets taped > to the stage wherever they play. Henry Rollins used to be barefoot on > stage most of the time back in the 80s, Lenny Kravitz too. Bjork > still prefers not to wear shoes at most gigs, and the in the videos > I've seen of that Joss Stone lass, she tends to be barefoot. > > > Yah, but the original barefoot singer was Ronnie van Zandt > of Lynyrd Skynyrd... > > > theo > ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! 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