From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Thu Mar 1 06:50:47 2007
From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:50:47 +0100
Subject: Hot Rails For Trade
Message-ID: <THU.1.MAR.2007.125047.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Instead of ordering extra copies of cd's,you better should pay the people
what you ow them...
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Subject: BOC: Hot Rails For Trade
Does anyone want a copy of MEATMEN "Pope On A Rope" CD? It has a cover of
"Hot Rails To Hell", the CD is still sealed in shrinkwrap, as I ordered an
extra copy..... by mistake!
Its AWESOME!
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Mar 1 07:02:14 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:02:14 +0000
Subject: Hot Rails For Trade
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Well this was ordered while my transaction block was in on Ebay... don't need to start digging up on BOCL, you will get your 100 dollars in a couple of weeks....
Christian
Instead of ordering extra copies of cd's,you better should pay the people
what you ow them...
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Does anyone want a copy of MEATMEN "Pope On A Rope" CD? It has a cover of
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From management at HAWKWIND.COM Thu Mar 1 11:37:16 2007
From: management at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:37:16 -0000
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
Message-ID: <THU.1.MAR.2007.163716.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hello Folks!
The long awaited credit card facility to buy Hawkfest tickets is up and running!
Simply go to www.hawkfest2007 and follow the instructions.......
See you there!
Best wishes
The Hawkfest team
From management at HAWKWIND.COM Thu Mar 1 11:42:02 2007
From: management at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:42:02 -0000
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
Message-ID: <THU.1.MAR.2007.164202.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
OOPs missed the .com bit off.
That should be www.hawkfest2007.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Hawkwind
To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
Hello Folks!
The long awaited credit card facility to buy Hawkfest tickets is up and running!
Simply go to www.hawkfest2007.com and follow the instructions.......
See you there!
Best wishes
The Hawkfest team
From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Thu Mar 1 12:55:23 2007
From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:55:23 -0800
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
In-Reply-To: <010201c75c20$8af5ec70$0201a8c0@PB01>
Message-ID: <THU.1.MAR.2007.095523.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Right next to an airport? Okay...
Hawkwind <management at HAWKWIND.COM> wrote: OOPs missed the .com bit off.
That should be www.hawkfest2007.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Hawkwind
To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
Hello Folks!
The long awaited credit card facility to buy Hawkfest tickets is up and running!
Simply go to www.hawkfest2007.com and follow the instructions.......
See you there!
Best wishes
The Hawkfest team
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From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 1 14:58:19 2007
From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:58:19 EST
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <THU.1.MAR.2007.145819.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Agreed.
Buying a new Hawkwind release and getting it home is and was always a
special occasion for me.
Got home, settled down with some beers and pressed play. Soon got up again
to take the CD out convinced that I'd been given the wrong one - "Some mistake
here" I thought.
Sadly not.
Steve.
In a message dated 02/28/2007 21:03:30 GMT Standard Time,
sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM writes:
Distant Horizons is a pretty awful album.Up there with the worst IMO.
From steve.bishop at DB.COM Fri Mar 2 02:52:00 2007
From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:52:00 +0000
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
In-Reply-To: <010201c75c20$8af5ec70$0201a8c0@PB01>
Message-ID: <FRI.2.MAR.2007.075200.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
OK, tried to book tickets and all I get is
Error: RomanCart does not recognize this transaction.
Can someone please help ?
Hawkwind <management at HAWKWIND.COM>
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OOPs missed the .com bit off.
That should be www.hawkfest2007.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Hawkwind
To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
Hello Folks!
The long awaited credit card facility to buy Hawkfest tickets is up and running!
Simply go to www.hawkfest2007.com and follow the instructions.......
See you there!
Best wishes
The Hawkfest team
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From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Fri Mar 2 04:07:34 2007
From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:07:34 EST
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <FRI.2.MAR.2007.040734.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Aw, we're all having a pop at Distant Horizons....sure not the best, but
then again TMTYL was weak as dish water ; the truly pointless Out Here We Are
still putting a hole in the liveset. Horses for courses I suppose.
Nice to see there's only a full 3 day ticket option for Hawkfest - obviously
those of us who have to work but would still like to see the band don't
count. 3 days or nothing. Thanks.
Hutch
From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Mar 2 05:40:46 2007
From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:40:46 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: <be2.d0ea4a1.33194356@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.2.MAR.2007.104046.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
<irony ON>
Why don't we pitch up at the gates with a flat bed and do a free concert?
<irony OFF>
Incidentally, looks like I can't persuade any mates they like HW enough to
come with me to Hawkfest, and I've not been before. I'm assuming people will
be friendly and i won't end up spending three days stood at back on me own.
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From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Mar 2 08:04:21 2007
From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:04:21 -0600
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
In-Reply-To: <OF16133BB8.4CE2A7B1-ON80257292.002B11EB-80257292.002B21B4@db.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.2.MAR.2007.070421.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Steve Bishop wrote:
:Subject: Re: HW:Hawkfest tickets
:
:OK, tried to book tickets and all I get is
:
:Error: RomanCart does not recognize this transaction.
:
:Can someone please help ?
:
Rich and I got the same error last night....
Thanks,
Arin
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From steve.bishop at DB.COM Fri Mar 2 08:15:18 2007
From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:15:18 +0000
Subject: HW:Hawkfest tickets
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.62.0703020703210.1041@unecre.hpuvpntb.rqh>
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Tried again after e;mail from Kris, all working fine now, they had 'teething probs' .............!
See y'all there !
Bish
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Steve Bishop wrote:
:Subject: Re: HW:Hawkfest tickets
:
:OK, tried to book tickets and all I get is
:
:Error: RomanCart does not recognize this transaction.
:
:Can someone please help ?
:
Rich and I got the same error last night....
Thanks,
Arin
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From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Fri Mar 2 19:11:35 2007
From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:11:35 -0600
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F320086F59260B52044F22794870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FRI.2.MAR.2007.181135.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Both the previous Hawkfests have been great events :-) Lots of fun, lots
of like minded friendly folk to spend time with :-) It will be a blast,
whether you manage to drag friends with you or not. :-)
Rich W.
Edmund Clout wrote:
> <irony ON>
> Why don't we pitch up at the gates with a flat bed and do a free concert?
> <irony OFF>
> Incidentally, looks like I can't persuade any mates they like HW
> enough to come with me to Hawkfest, and I've not been before. I'm
> assuming people will be friendly and i won't end up spending three
> days stood at back on me own.
>
> Edmund
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Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:47:43 -0500
Subject: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock & Alchemical Radio Shows
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From: management at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:33:31 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind on the radio tonight
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From Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK Mon Mar 5 04:16:09 2007
From: Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:16:09 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.091609.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Edmund Clout <e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM> SED
>Incidentally, looks like I can't persuade any mates they like HW enough
to
>come with me to Hawkfest, and I've not been before. I'm assuming people
will
>be friendly and i won't end up spending three days stood at back on me
own.
May I suggest that you make your way to the front?
HTH
Maxine
From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Mar 5 07:28:36 2007
From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:28:36 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <45EBDFDA0200009C0001FF25@perth.iso.port.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.122836.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>From: Maxine Wesley <Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK>
>
> > Edmund Clout <e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM> SED
>
> >Incidentally, looks like I can't persuade any mates they like HW enough
>to
> >come with me to Hawkfest, and I've not been before. I'm assuming people
>will
> >be friendly and i won't end up spending three days stood at back on me
>own.
>
>May I suggest that you make your way to the front?
>
>HTH
>
>Maxine
Shhh, I'm trying to play it for sympathy ;-)
Also, on a comletely different subject; I just got Empire Pool '73, my first
experience of Hawkwind 'bootleg'/Audience recorded quality stuff, and thank
god its taken 'til now. No wonder people get angry over Bring me the head...
if Empire Pool is a superior cleaned up sound source Yuri must be utter
sh*te. I'm not complaing about Empire, I knew what I was getting, but its
made my mind up to not bother with the bootleg CDRs of reading 75 and so on
that turn up on e-bay regularly (which go to ?30, for a home produced CDR,
bit off if you ask me.)
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From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Mon Mar 5 09:08:40 2007
From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:08:40 -0500
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F4B30A4B4AE1E40D54465794840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.090840.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Quoting Edmund Clout <e_clout at hotmail.com>:
> Also, on a comletely different subject; I just got Empire Pool '73, my first
> experience of Hawkwind 'bootleg'/Audience recorded quality stuff, and thank
> god its taken 'til now. No wonder people get angry over Bring me the head...
> if Empire Pool is a superior cleaned up sound source Yuri must be utter
> sh*te.
Yuri is nowhere near as bad as some of the reports make it out to be. It's not
great, but I've heard far worse.
--
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From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Mon Mar 5 10:54:28 2007
From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:54:28 -0500
Subject: Empire Pool
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.105428.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Actually, despite all the constant negative criticism, I'd say that Bring Me
the Head of Yuri Gagarin is one of the best HW bootlegs out there that has
seen semi-official release. The sound quality is nowhere near as bad as
most of the reports would seem to say. People who are shocked at the sound
quality have obviously never collected or listened to many bootleg
recordings. I have at least several dozens shows that sound much worse. On
the other hand, some of the best bootleg recordings have never been pressed
for sale. By their nature, bootlegs will be sub-par recordings since more
often than not they are sourced by a guy with a jambox in the audience...
what can you expect? This is not to say that all audience recordings are
bad, at all. If not for many of these illicit recordings, there would be no
recordings at all.
John Majka
> Also, on a comletely different subject; I just got Empire Pool '73, my
> first experience of Hawkwind 'bootleg'/Audience recorded quality stuff,
> and thank god its taken 'til now. No wonder people get angry over Bring me
> the head... if Empire Pool is a superior cleaned up sound source Yuri must
> be utter sh*te. I'm not complaing about Empire, I knew what I was getting,
> but its made my mind up to not bother with the bootleg CDRs of reading 75
> and so on that turn up on e-bay regularly (which go to ?30, for a home
> produced
From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Mar 5 11:09:01 2007
From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:09:01 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <20070305090840.6mjso04g0o00wsgk@webmail.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.160901.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Thats true..i have heard worse.. Anyone heard the dreadful pile of cr*p that
is "text of festival"??.a double album of blurred noise that comes and goes
with the wind..(wind direction, that is).
Bootleg or not..these were released "officially", by some rip-off obscure
record label.. and theyre probably the worst 2 cds of ANY band ive got in
cd/vinyl collection.
Get real.. these SHOULD have stayed as bootlegs..theres no indication of the
appalling sound quality thats about to hit you.These were released by little
labels cashing in on a name, and ripping off hawkwind fans.Full-stop.
*Any newcomer to Hawkwind hearing that pile of crud would be off them for
life.(and lets face it, theyre EASIER to get hold of,than their studio
albums..lol).
Thats my tuppence.. i'll get off my soapbox now..he he
>From: David Kuznick <dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: Empire Pool
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:08:40 -0500
>
>Quoting Edmund Clout <e_clout at hotmail.com>:
>
> > Also, on a comletely different subject; I just got Empire Pool '73, my
>first
> > experience of Hawkwind 'bootleg'/Audience recorded quality stuff, and
>thank
> > god its taken 'til now. No wonder people get angry over Bring me the
>head...
> > if Empire Pool is a superior cleaned up sound source Yuri must be utter
> > sh*te.
>
>Yuri is nowhere near as bad as some of the reports make it out to be. It's
>not
>great, but I've heard far worse.
>
>--
>David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu
>"Ever had the feeling you've been here before? Drinking down the poison
>the way you were taught. Ever thought from here on in your life begins
>and all you knew was wrong?"
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From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 5 11:24:59 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:24:59 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F3949681CA2316B1BFE03C0B6840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.162459.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 05/03/2007 16:09, pete howe wrote:
> Get real.. these SHOULD have stayed as bootlegs..theres no indication of
> the appalling sound quality thats about to hit you.These were released
> by little labels cashing in on a name, and ripping off hawkwind
> fans.Full-stop.
> *Any newcomer to Hawkwind hearing that pile of crud would be off them
> for life.(and lets face it, theyre EASIER to get hold of,than their
> studio albums..lol).
If only Hawkwind had the equivalent of Ian Gillan on the BBC begging
fans not to buy hideously awful live albums released without their
knowledge :)
Cheers,
Carl
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From drakrats at AOL.COM Mon Mar 5 11:42:28 2007
From: drakrats at AOL.COM (Mark Darkstar)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:42:28 -0500
Subject: Empire Pool
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.114228.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
'Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin' was released on the Demi Monde label. It
is run by none other that Dave Anderson of Hawkwind fame. There are alot of
good lp's on that label, especially if you like Gong.
I bought 'Text of Festival' when it came out purely for the
tracks 'Sound..Shouln't..Improvise...' and
'Improvise..Compromise..Reprise'. I still listen to these now and they still sound
ok...
If you ever feel you have been ripped off just take the lp/cd back to the store
and get something else. Noone forces you to listen to them. I would rather
have these albums as they are than not have them at all.
From steve.bishop at DB.COM Mon Mar 5 11:50:18 2007
From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:50:18 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200703051142283618.02DB@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
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But the point is that if these easier to buy cd's are the FIRST experience of Hawkwind that anyone gets then they wouldn't know they were poor output, they'd just assume the rest of the Hawkwind catalogue was equally as crap !
Mark Darkstar <drakrats at AOL.COM>
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'Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin' was released on the Demi Monde label. It
is run by none other that Dave Anderson of Hawkwind fame. There are alot of
good lp's on that label, especially if you like Gong.
I bought 'Text of Festival' when it came out purely for the
tracks 'Sound..Shouln't..Improvise...' and
'Improvise..Compromise..Reprise'. I still listen to these now and they still sound
ok...
If you ever feel you have been ripped off just take the lp/cd back to the store
and get something else. Noone forces you to listen to them. I would rather
have these albums as they are than not have them at all.
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From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Mar 5 11:52:59 2007
From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:52:59 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200703051142283618.02DB@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
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very true..i DONT listen to them..lol.. No wonder Dave Brock is p*ssed off
with all these unlistenable releases.
And AS I SAID..Any Newcomer to HAWKWIND, would be put off for life..
>From: Mark Darkstar <drakrats at AOL.COM>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: Empire Pool
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:42:28 -0500
>
>'Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin' was released on the Demi Monde label.
>It
>is run by none other that Dave Anderson of Hawkwind fame. There are alot of
>good lp's on that label, especially if you like Gong.
>I bought 'Text of Festival' when it came out purely for the
>tracks 'Sound..Shouln't..Improvise...' and
>'Improvise..Compromise..Reprise'. I still listen to these now and they
>still sound
>ok...
>If you ever feel you have been ripped off just take the lp/cd back to the
>store
>and get something else. Noone forces you to listen to them. I would rather
>have these albums as they are than not have them at all.
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From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 15:27:17 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:27:17 +0000
Subject: HW: Litmus this Friday
In-Reply-To: <001801c75f3e$8e78f010$0202a8c0@MAJKA>
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.202717.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Litmus, with support from The Green Ray, will be playing at:
The Standard Music Venue
1 Blackhorse Lane
London
E17 6DS
this Friday, 9th March.
Entry: ?8.00
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 15:29:32 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:29:32 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F24AA3AD8B0EDF3D191B874B6840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.202932.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Glastonbury 1990?
pete howe <sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: very true..i DONT listen to them..lol.. No wonder Dave Brock is p*ssed off
with all these unlistenable releases.
And AS I SAID..Any Newcomer to HAWKWIND, would be put off for life..
>From: Mark Darkstar
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: Empire Pool
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:42:28 -0500
>
>'Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin' was released on the Demi Monde label.
>It
>is run by none other that Dave Anderson of Hawkwind fame. There are alot of
>good lp's on that label, especially if you like Gong.
>I bought 'Text of Festival' when it came out purely for the
>tracks 'Sound..Shouln't..Improvise...' and
>'Improvise..Compromise..Reprise'. I still listen to these now and they
>still sound
>ok...
>If you ever feel you have been ripped off just take the lp/cd back to the
>store
>and get something else. Noone forces you to listen to them. I would rather
>have these albums as they are than not have them at all.
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From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 15:30:24 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:30:24 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F24AA3AD8B0EDF3D191B874B6840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.203024.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Glastonbury 1990?
pete howe <sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: very true..i DONT listen to them..lol.. No wonder Dave Brock is p*ssed off
with all these unlistenable releases.
And AS I SAID..Any Newcomer to HAWKWIND, would be put off for life..
>From: Mark Darkstar
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: Empire Pool
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:42:28 -0500
>
>'Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin' was released on the Demi Monde label.
>It
>is run by none other that Dave Anderson of Hawkwind fame. There are alot of
>good lp's on that label, especially if you like Gong.
>I bought 'Text of Festival' when it came out purely for the
>tracks 'Sound..Shouln't..Improvise...' and
>'Improvise..Compromise..Reprise'. I still listen to these now and they
>still sound
>ok...
>If you ever feel you have been ripped off just take the lp/cd back to the
>store
>and get something else. Noone forces you to listen to them. I would rather
>have these albums as they are than not have them at all.
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From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Mon Mar 5 16:19:19 2007
From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:19:19 -0800
Subject: BOC: reference in cool Onion article
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.131919.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Unreleased Jimmy Page Guitar Riff To Be Retrieved From Secret Vault To Save Rock And Roll www.theonion.com March 5, 2007 | Issue 43?10
GWYNEDD, WALES?Calling it the planet's last, best hope for saving rock music, the Guardians of the Protectorate of Rock announced Monday that they would take the extraordinary step of unleashing a never-before-heard Jimmy Page riff, hidden for decades in a mythic, impenetrable vault.
Enlarge Image Some speculate that this is the gate to the secret vault.
"We who believe in the immortality of rock took a vow 30 years ago that we would never release this incredibly powerful force unless we faced a Day of Reckoning?and that day has come," said Black Sabbath guitarist Tony Iommi, one of the chosen few who helped forge the Secret Vault to Save Rock and Roll, at a press conference in the Welsh highlands.
"Just look at the pop charts, and you shall know I speak the truth."
"Let's give rock and roll its fucking balls back," he added.
The Guardians said recent developments in the music world, such as the unaccountable popularity of the Dixie Chicks and Sufjan Stevens, have created a "perfect storm of lameness" from which rock might never recover. While Iommi refused to say when the vault would be opened, hard rock sources believe it will take place just prior to next month's Fall Out Boy?Honda Civic tour, which many fear will suck the remaining lifeblood from all that still rocks.
"Citizens of Rock, we refuse to stand idly by any longer," ZZ Top founder and Protectorate High Elder Billy Gibbons said. "When a puss like James Blunt is allowed to rule the airwaves, we must respond by exposing this monster riff, and blowing minds into the stratosphere."
The Protectorate, devoted to the preservation of badass jams and blistering guitar solos, was reportedly formed in the 1970s during the rise of adult contemporary music. According to legend, the riff, played only once by Page and recorded on a special cobalt record, contains the raw power, mind-blowing skill, and unbridled passion of all the Guardians combined. Recently translated parchments from the era describe it as a soul-searing power-chord progression faintly resembling a cross between "Smoke On The Water" and "Living Loving Maid," but "basically defying all description."
It is believed that, upon the riff's release, even those who claim that the genre is dead will have no choice but to pump their fists, bang their heads, and bow down to the gods of rock for all eternity.
"May God have mercy on our souls for what we are going to set loose upon the world," proclaimed Queen guitarist Brian May, dressed in druidic robes and bathed in the rising blue smoke of a nearby fog machine. "Will it save rock or destroy mankind? We have no way of knowing?yet we have no other choice."
Members of the Protectorate were each given only partial information about the location of the vault, which they were instructed to open in unison only in the event of a total Rockopalypse. While some believed the vault was buried in Boston, Chicago, Kansas, Europe, or Asia, others claimed it could be found in the Court of the Crimson King.
However, after piecing together clues hidden in Yes album covers and Pink Floyd liner notes, rock historians now believe the riff is locked away deep beneath the Welsh countryside house known as Bron-Yr-Aur, at rock-grid coordinates SH735026. British weather satellites have also photographed an enormous cloud, shaped like a hybrid of an upside-down question mark and cross, forming above these exact coordinates.
The vault's Key, regarded as too staggering a burden for any one man to bear, was divided in two parts, with half entrusted to Eddie Van Halen and half to David Lee Roth, shortly after Roth left the rock supergroup Van Halen. The two men, who have refused to work together for 20 years, recently announced plans for a historic reunion tour.
"Before we shake Heaven and Earth with the vicious power of this riff, we of the High Council of Elders of the Guardians of the Protectorate of Rock ask you: Are you about to rock?"
AC/DC guitarist Angus Young said. "If so, we salute you."
When asked to comment on the possible dangers of using the riff, Sir Paul McCartney seemed surprised.
"There's a secret vault to save rock and roll?" McCartney said. "This is the first I've heard of it."
----------------------------
Hope you enjoyed this...Grakkl
P.S. I swear that's a Rodney Matthews' Diamond Head album cover. :)
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From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 18:43:59 2007
From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:43:59 -0000
Subject: reference in cool Onion article
Message-ID: <MON.5.MAR.2007.234359.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
How come Wales gets to hide all these arcane lost rock-riff wonders?
Wasn't the "recently-discovered-lost Jimmy-Hendrix-tape" <tongue firmly in
cheek> a version of the Welsh National Anthem? I mean I know Merlin
nicked the Stonehenge Bluestones from there (at least I don't think he paid
for them - somehow you get the impression that's not how magicians generally
conduct their activities) and they've been the focus of a festival of some
kind or another ever since but I was unaware that Wales was also the
repository for vaults of ancient rock music. Although if it's all stored
in the mines the bluestones were taken from...... Now there would be a
Thing. The Music of the Stones.
Musingly
jill
==============================================
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==============================================
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Subject: BOC: reference in cool Onion article
Unreleased Jimmy Page Guitar Riff To Be Retrieved From Secret
Vault To Save Rock And Roll www.theonion.com March 5, 2007 | Issue 43.10
GWYNEDD, WALES-Calling it the planet's last, best hope for
saving rock music, the Guardians of the Protectorate of Rock announced
Monday that they would take the extraordinary step of unleashing a
never-before-heard Jimmy Page riff, hidden for decades in a mythic,
impenetrable vault.
Enlarge Image Some speculate that this is the gate to the secret vault.
"We who believe in the immortality of rock took a vow 30 years ago that we
would never release this incredibly powerful force unless we faced a Day of
Reckoning-and that day has come," said Black Sabbath guitarist Tony Iommi,
one of the chosen few who helped forge the Secret Vault to Save Rock and
Roll, at a press conference in the Welsh highlands.
"Just look at the pop charts, and you shall know I speak the truth."
"Let's give rock and roll its fucking balls back," he added.
The Guardians said recent developments in the music world, such as the
unaccountable popularity of the Dixie Chicks and Sufjan Stevens, have
created a "perfect storm of lameness" from which rock might never recover.
While Iommi refused to say when the vault would be opened, hard rock sources
believe it will take place just prior to next month's Fall Out Boy-Honda
Civic tour, which many fear will suck the remaining lifeblood from all that
still rocks.
"Citizens of Rock, we refuse to stand idly by any longer," ZZ Top founder
and Protectorate High Elder Billy Gibbons said. "When a puss like James
Blunt is allowed to rule the airwaves, we must respond by exposing this
monster riff, and blowing minds into the stratosphere."
The Protectorate, devoted to the preservation of badass jams and
blistering guitar solos, was reportedly formed in the 1970s during the rise
of adult contemporary music. According to legend, the riff, played only once
by Page and recorded on a special cobalt record, contains the raw power,
mind-blowing skill, and unbridled passion of all the Guardians combined.
Recently translated parchments from the era describe it as a soul-searing
power-chord progression faintly resembling a cross between "Smoke On The
Water" and "Living Loving Maid," but "basically defying all description."
It is believed that, upon the riff's release, even those who claim that
the genre is dead will have no choice but to pump their fists, bang their
heads, and bow down to the gods of rock for all eternity.
"May God have mercy on our souls for what we are going to set loose upon
the world," proclaimed Queen guitarist Brian May, dressed in druidic robes
and bathed in the rising blue smoke of a nearby fog machine. "Will it save
rock or destroy mankind? We have no way of knowing-yet we have no other
choice."
Members of the Protectorate were each given only partial information about
the location of the vault, which they were instructed to open in unison only
in the event of a total Rockopalypse. While some believed the vault was
buried in Boston, Chicago, Kansas, Europe, or Asia, others claimed it could
be found in the Court of the Crimson King.
However, after piecing together clues hidden in Yes album covers and Pink
Floyd liner notes, rock historians now believe the riff is locked away deep
beneath the Welsh countryside house known as Bron-Yr-Aur, at rock-grid
coordinates SH735026. British weather satellites have also photographed an
enormous cloud, shaped like a hybrid of an upside-down question mark and
cross, forming above these exact coordinates.
The vault's Key, regarded as too staggering a burden for any one man to
bear, was divided in two parts, with half entrusted to Eddie Van Halen and
half to David Lee Roth, shortly after Roth left the rock supergroup Van
Halen. The two men, who have refused to work together for 20 years, recently
announced plans for a historic reunion tour.
"Before we shake Heaven and Earth with the vicious power of this riff, we
of the High Council of Elders of the Guardians of the Protectorate of Rock
ask you: Are you about to rock?"
AC/DC guitarist Angus Young said. "If so, we salute you."
When asked to comment on the possible dangers of using the riff, Sir Paul
McCartney seemed surprised.
"There's a secret vault to save rock and roll?" McCartney said. "This is
the first I've heard of it."
----------------------------
Hope you enjoyed this...Grakkl
P.S. I swear that's a Rodney Matthews' Diamond Head album cover. :)
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 5 21:12:53 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 02:12:53 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
Message-ID: <TUE.6.MAR.2007.021253.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Whereas "TEXT OF FESTIVAL" is terrible, terrible recording, crap drugged out jamming (IMO!!) I find "YURI GAGARIN" to be quite good, the recording is some stuff unavailible elsewhere, plenty of showing off, and not so bad recording REALLY its a LIVE Hawkwind album from 1973. But TEXT is a terrible way to hear Hawkwind for the first time., I agree. But Demi Monde had some good things going for them like some one said, like the AMON DUUL and MOTHERGONG stuff, and so Dave Anderson who puts out that Hawkwind CRAPOLA stuff is really someone Dave Brock probably has probably phoned the police on after some of those utterly BORING (re)releases of HAWKWINDS WORST MOMENTS!! Like TEXT..... of NOT SO FESTIVE when hearing THAT!
Christian
----- Original Message ----
From: pete howe <sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Monday, 5 March, 2007 5:09:01 PM
Subject: Re: Empire Pool
Thats true..i have heard worse.. Anyone heard the dreadful pile of cr*p that
is "text of festival"??.a double album of blurred noise that comes and goes
with the wind..(wind direction, that is).
Bootleg or not..these were released "officially", by some rip-off obscure
record label.. and theyre probably the worst 2 cds of ANY band ive got in
cd/vinyl collection.
Get real.. these SHOULD have stayed as bootlegs..theres no indication of the
appalling sound quality thats about to hit you.These were released by little
labels cashing in on a name, and ripping off hawkwind fans.Full-stop.
*Any newcomer to Hawkwind hearing that pile of crud would be off them for
life.(and lets face it, theyre EASIER to get hold of,than their studio
albums..lol).
Thats my tuppence.. i'll get off my soapbox now..he he
>From: David Kuznick <dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: Empire Pool
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 09:08:40 -0500
>
>Quoting Edmund Clout <e_clout at hotmail.com>:
>
> > Also, on a comletely different subject; I just got Empire Pool '73, my
>first
> > experience of Hawkwind 'bootleg'/Audience recorded quality stuff, and
>thank
> > god its taken 'til now. No wonder people get angry over Bring me the
>head...
> > if Empire Pool is a superior cleaned up sound source Yuri must be utter
> > sh*te.
>
>Yuri is nowhere near as bad as some of the reports make it out to be. It's
>not
>great, but I've heard far worse.
>
>--
>David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu
>"Ever had the feeling you've been here before? Drinking down the poison
>the way you were taught. Ever thought from here on in your life begins
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From joninwhite at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Mar 6 15:32:31 2007
From: joninwhite at HOTMAIL.COM (Jon Jon)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:32:31 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <TUE.6.MAR.2007.203231.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
hmm... hard to call here. Are you a completist? If so, then it is an absolute must.If not.... well it certainly is no classic - you will have gathered that by the other responses.The artwork is crap and the album is ordinary but it has it's moments, 'wheels' being one of them - brock plays some excellent heavy guitar on it and in my mind it is a classic.The rest of the album is pretty heavy sounding too - the hawks were experimenting with a grungy sound at the time which IMHO has a great sound, and i believe that the (low fi) production suits itWhat lets the album down is the very average tunes (with the exception of 'wheels' and 'love in space')I own a copy, and personally would NOT fork out ?30 for itA tenner? Yes - or trade - maybe you have sorted something out as i speakThere will be people who know more about the album in general, but i hope this helpsJonathan> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:03:41 +0000> From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: HW:Distant Horizons> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET> > After finishing the Carol Clerk book I realised of the mainstream albums I > never got around to buying (or hearing) Distant Horizons. What are peoples > views on it? It sells on Ebay from time to time but it seems like it is not > listed to buy new any more. Is it worth a 20 or ?30 investment, or does > someone have a spare copy to trade? If so contact me offline at > eddiejobson at hotmail.com> > Also noticed while searching that the PXR5 cd now comes with New Worlds Fair > on the end of it? My older copy hasn't got that.> > Eddie.> > _________________________________________________________________> Rate your skiving credentials with our Slack-o-meter > http://www.slack-o-meter.com
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From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Mar 7 04:16:35 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:16:35 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W400B612FEC72D197D865A3C47B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.091635.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 06 Mar 2007, at 20:32, Jon Jon wrote:
> but it has it's moments, 'wheels' being one of them - brock plays
> some excellent heavy guitar on it and in my mind it is a classic.
I had put that down to mostly Jerry, but I suppose Brock would likely
bein there as well.
Cheers,
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From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Wed Mar 7 10:19:17 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:19:17 -0500
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F24AA3AD8B0EDF3D191B874B6840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.101917.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:52:59PM +0000, pete howe wrote:
> very true..i DONT listen to them..lol.. No wonder Dave Brock is p*ssed off
> with all these unlistenable releases.
> And AS I SAID..Any Newcomer to HAWKWIND, would be put off for life..
If I had gone on just the first couple of releases I bought,
I might never have started this list. :)
The problem is that for a beginner, there's no easy way to
distinguish the crappy bootlegs and shady unauthorized
re-releases from the authentic albums.
Steve
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 09:54:16 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:54:16 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.145416.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
C.
hmm... hard to call here. Are you a compl
I agree with this :)
C.
hmm... hard to call here. Are you a completist? If so, then it is an absolute must.If not.... well it certainly is no classic - you will have gathered that by the other responses.The artwork is crap and the album is ordinary but it has it's moments, 'wheels' being one of them - brock plays some excellent heavy guitar on it and in my mind it is a classic.The rest of the album is pretty heavy sounding too - the hawks were experimenting with a grungy sound at the time which IMHO has a great sound, and i believe that the (low fi) production suits itWhat lets the album down is the very average tunes (with the exception of 'wheels' and 'love in space')I own a copy, and personally would NOT fork out ?30 for itA tenner? Yes - or trade - maybe you have sorted something out as i speakThere will be people who know more about the album in general, but i hope this helpsJonathan
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From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Mar 7 10:46:18 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:46:18 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
In-Reply-To: <20070307151917.GA15661@plutonia.com>
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.154618.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 07/03/2007 15:19, Stephen Swann wrote:
> The problem is that for a beginner, there's no easy way to
> distinguish the crappy bootlegs and shady unauthorized
> re-releases from the authentic albums.
One could do worse than start at (or near) the beginning of the list on
<http://www.hawkwind.com/alb/alb_.htm> and working forward. But, yes,
point taken, and that doesn't help much standing in a record shop!
(On the other hand, I can't remember the last time I bought a CD in a shop!)
Cheers,
Carl
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From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Wed Mar 7 10:52:59 2007
From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:52:59 -0500
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.105259.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I don't think Distant Horizons is any worse than Alien 4, for example, so if
you like that one, I'd say certainly give DH a try. There are several
tracks I quite like--"Wheels" is one of Hawkwind's great moments, I think,
and though others will disagree with me, I also liked "Phetamine Street"
quite a bit. There are some songs that sound more like Brock solo album
stuff, and they actually sound out of place on Distant Horizons. I would
say that those tracks are the low points--"Clouded Vision," "Population
Overload," "Waimea Canyon Drive." The opener is startling, and not
necessarily in a good way, with its sampled reggae voice. However, I
should reiterate that I don't think Alien 4 or In Your Area are that much
better. Each of these albums is spotty, with some great tracks interspersed
with only mediocre ones. Nevertheless, all of these albums have their
redeeming features and I would recommend them to a fan, but not as a first
exposure to Hawkwind.
Looking forward to seeing you all at Nearfest, and to the possibility of a
US tour....
John Majka
From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Wed Mar 7 11:02:20 2007
From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:02:20 +0100
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.170220.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I can't remember when I bought a CD !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" <cea at CARLAZ.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: Hawkwind bootlegs
> On 07/03/2007 15:19, Stephen Swann wrote:
>> The problem is that for a beginner, there's no easy way to
>> distinguish the crappy bootlegs and shady unauthorized
>> re-releases from the authentic albums.
>
> One could do worse than start at (or near) the beginning of the list on
> <http://www.hawkwind.com/alb/alb_.htm> and working forward. But, yes,
> point taken, and that doesn't help much standing in a record shop!
>
> (On the other hand, I can't remember the last time I bought a CD in a
> shop!)
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> mailto:cea at carlaz.com
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Mar 7 12:15:24 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:15:24 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: <000801c760d0$ae426780$0202a8c0@MAJKA>
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.171524.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 07/03/2007 15:52, John Majka wrote:
> I don't think Distant Horizons is any worse than Alien 4, for example,
> so if you like that one, I'd say certainly give DH a try.
Ah, but Alien 4 had Sputnik Stan, which I liked better than the better
stuff on DH .... :)
Cheers,
Carl
--
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http://www.carlaz.com/
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 12:06:34 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:06:34 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.170634.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
----- Original Message ----
From: Stephen Swann <swann at PLUTONIA.COM
----- Original Message ----
From: Stephen Swann <swann at PLUTONIA.COM>
The problem is that for a beginner, there's no easy way to
distinguish the crappy bootlegs and shady unauthorized
re-releases from the authentic albums.
Steve
Why this list was started? To let people find out ??? :-)
Thanks Steve! I must have had about 50 Hawkwind CDs when I joined BOC-L in 1996, it seemed like UK was the hippest country on the planet, I had just moved back to Europe from 3 years in USA,,, and BOC-L was GROOVY!!
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 12:44:45 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:44:45 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.174445.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I thought "Beam Me Up" was the best thing on there, though many may disagree.... ALIEN 4 had better production and conceptual type thing going for it than Distant Horizons which seems to have been a pretty "rushed" relase (NO RELATION TO LIMBAUGH OR GEDDY LEE, Americans still trying to survive the 90s take note!).... And whats the deal with Legendary Pink Dots "sound wizard" producing so many recent Hawkwind releases though? (DH for one) Did Dave Brock discover him via LPD or?? Wonder what the story is.....
Christian
On 07/03/2007 15:52, John Majka wrote:
> I don't think Distant Horizons is any worse than Alien 4, for example,
> so if you like that one, I'd say certainly give DH a try.
Ah, but Alien 4 had Sputnik Stan, which I liked better than the better
stuff on DH .... :)
Cheers,
Carl
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From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Mar 7 15:26:27 2007
From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:26:27 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: <418576.49629.qm@web23013.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.202627.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Really..a pretty good guide is the Epoch eclipse triple cd.Nothing from
Distant horzons on THAT(unless you count D. H.s pointless INSTRUMENTAL vsn
of Love in Space)..You may also note theres nothing from "It Is The Business
of the future..." AND..obviously..NOTHING from all those badly recorded
illegal live cds.Its worthy to note,there is a track from "Church of
hawkwind"..which was far superior to "Business..".
We can argue all day about tracks included or missing on it..but its pretty
good as an album guide to quality(note-1 cd for 69-74,1 cd for
75-78,..and..ermm..1 cd for 79-99ish..lol)
pete
>From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: HW:Distant Horizons
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:44:45 +0000
>
>I thought "Beam Me Up" was the best thing on there, though many may
>disagree.... ALIEN 4 had better production and conceptual type thing going
>for it than Distant Horizons which seems to have been a pretty "rushed"
>relase (NO RELATION TO LIMBAUGH OR GEDDY LEE, Americans still trying to
>survive the 90s take note!).... And whats the deal with Legendary Pink Dots
>"sound wizard" producing so many recent Hawkwind releases though? (DH for
>one) Did Dave Brock discover him via LPD or?? Wonder what the story is.....
>
>Christian
>
>On 07/03/2007 15:52, John Majka wrote:
> > I don't think Distant Horizons is any worse than Alien 4, for example,
> > so if you like that one, I'd say certainly give DH a try.
>
>Ah, but Alien 4 had Sputnik Stan, which I liked better than the better
>stuff on DH .... :)
>
>Cheers,
>Carl
>
>--
>Carl Edlund Anderson
>mailto:cea at carlaz.com
>http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 15:45:30 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:45:30 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.204530.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well the Epoch Eclipse CD is okay for young STONER KIDS WHO WANNA HEAR HAWKWIND for the FIRST TIME cause they heard Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet take a cr*p and they wanna be like their PARENTS and GET HIGH, well, that collection is OKAY FOR BEGINNERS... novices in CLASS TO BEE OF HAWKWIND HIGH...... but if you are serious about COLLECTING and COLLECTIONS of prime HAWKWIND I recommend the ACID DAZE 2CD on RECEIVER and the FRIENDS AND RELATIONS and WEIRD TAPE series, THEY ARE ESSENTIAL!!! ***4 VETERANS ONLY*** though......
Christian Who Has No Day Job Other Than Dave Jobs
Really..a pretty good guide is the Epoch eclipse triple cd.Nothing from
Distant horzons on THAT(unless you count D. H.s pointless INSTRUMENTAL vsn
of Love in Space)..You may also note theres nothing from "It Is The Business
of the future..." AND..obviously..NOTHING from all those badly recorded
illegal live cds.Its worthy to note,there is a track from "Church of
hawkwind"..which was far superior to "Business..".
We can argue all day about tracks included or missing on it..but its pretty
good as an album guide to quality(note-1 cd for 69-74,1 cd for
75-78,..and..ermm..1 cd for 79-99ish..lol)
pete
>From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: HW:Distant Horizons
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:44:45 +0000
>
>I thought "Beam Me Up" was the best thing on there, though many may
>disagree.... ALIEN 4 had better production and conceptual type thing going
>for it than Distant Horizons which seems to have been a pretty "rushed"
>relase (NO RELATION TO LIMBAUGH OR GEDDY LEE, Americans still trying to
>survive the 90s take note!).... And whats the deal with Legendary Pink Dots
>"sound wizard" producing so many recent Hawkwind releases though? (DH for
>one) Did Dave Brock discover him via LPD or?? Wonder what the story is.....
>
>Christian
>
>On 07/03/2007 15:52, John Majka wrote:
> > I don't think Distant Horizons is any worse than Alien 4, for example,
> > so if you like that one, I'd say certainly give DH a try.
>
>Ah, but Alien 4 had Sputnik Stan, which I liked better than the better
>stuff on DH .... :)
>
>Cheers,
>Carl
>
>--
>Carl Edlund Anderson
>mailto:cea at carlaz.com
>http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 16:19:37 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:19:37 +0000
Subject: HW: "Don't Be Donkish"
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.211937.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
So any UKers care to provide me with an answer to THIS: just what is this HAWKWIND track all about then?? Should I be Paranoid that meeting Alan Davey in Bergen last year when HAWKWIND played with Enslaved and WE should make me particularly Donkish?? And what does "Donkish" mean?? Does it mean like "WANNABEE" ??? Then I for sure WON't BE DONKISH..... Any Englishmen care to comment on what excactly Hawkwind are blathering on about?? I have the CD/DVD of Take Me To Your Future but have feared popping on "DONT BE DONKISH" in case there is some sort of OLD FARTING conspiracy at CAMEBRIDGE going on!
Christian
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 16:06:02 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:06:02 +0000
Subject: HW: Church/Business
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.210602.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well, "IITBOTFTBD" sucks monkeys breath and "COH" is so cheesey cause
Well, "IITBOTFTBD" sucks monkeys breath and "COH" is so cheesey cause its full of holes, not a work of GENIUS but MAYBE A WORK OF ART..... if Dave Brock set out in the world to be a SOLO ENTERTAINER then "Earthed To The Ground" IS BOTH GENIUS AND A WORK OF SERIOUS BUSINESS :-) Like a real Anarcho Syndicate growing out of the grooves on THAT LP isn't my observation, then that grotesque ARCHANGEL standing on the TAKEOFF RAMP waiting for A BIT OF ROMANTICISM and Thee Billy Shaxbard Quothe Him on THAT...... winter of hour discontents......
Shades of CHURCH BUSINESS.....: "The Lord's Business...... WITCHFYNDER!"Christian
Really..a pretty good guide is the Epoch eclipse triple cd.Nothing from
Distant horzons on THAT(unless you count D. H.s pointless INSTRUMENTAL vsn
of Love in Space)..You may also note theres nothing from "It Is The Business
of the future..." AND..obviously..NOTHING from all those badly recorded
illegal live cds.Its worthy to note,there is a track from "Church of
hawkwind"..which was far superior to "Business..".
We can argue all day about tracks included or missing on it..but its pretty
good as an album guide to quality(note-1 cd for 69-74,1 cd for
75-78,..and..ermm..1 cd for 79-99ish..lol)
pete
>From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: HW:Distant Horizons
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:44:45 +0000
>
>I thought "Beam Me Up" was the best thing on there, though many may
>disagree.... ALIEN 4 had better production and conceptual type thing going
>for it than Distant Horizons which seems to have been a pretty "rushed"
>relase (NO RELATION TO LIMBAUGH OR GEDDY LEE, Americans still trying to
>survive the 90s take note!).... And whats the deal with Legendary Pink Dots
>"sound wizard" producing so many recent Hawkwind releases though? (DH for
>one) Did Dave Brock discover him via LPD or?? Wonder what the story is.....
>
>Christian
>
>On 07/03/2007 15:52, John Majka wrote:
> > I don't think Distant Horizons is any worse than Alien 4, for example,
> > so if you like that one, I'd say certainly give DH a try.
>
>Ah, but Alien 4 had Sputnik Stan, which I liked better than the better
>stuff on DH .... :)
>
>Cheers,
>Carl
>
>--
>Carl Edlund Anderson
>mailto:cea at carlaz.com
>http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 18:36:41 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 23:36:41 +0000
Subject: HW: Church/Business
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.233641.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well, "IITBOTFTBD" sucks monkeys breath and "COH" is so cheesey cause its full of holes, not a work of GENIUS but MAYBE A WORK OF ART..... if Dave Brock set out in the world to be a SOLO ENTERTAINER then "Earthed To The Ground" IS BOTH GENIUS AND A WORK OF SERIOUS BUSINESS :-) Like a real Anarcho Syndicate growing out of the grooves on THAT LP isn't my observation...
Shades of CHURCH BUSINESS.....:
Christian
Really..a pretty good guide
is the Epoch eclipse triple cd.Nothing from
Distant horzons on THAT(unless you count D. H.s pointless INSTRUMENTAL vsn
of Love in Space)..You may also note theres nothing from "It Is The Business
of the future..." AND..obviously..NOTHING from all those badly recorded
illegal live cds.Its worthy to note,there is a track from "Church of
hawkwind"..which was far superior to "Business..".
We can argue all day about tracks included or missing on it..but its pretty
good as an album guide to quality(note-1 cd for 69-74,1 cd for
75-78,..and..ermm..1 cd for 79-99ish..lol)
pete
>From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: HW:Distant Horizons
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:44:45 +0000
>
>I
thought "Beam Me Up" was the best thing on there, though many may
>disagree.... ALIEN 4 had better production and conceptual type thing going
>for it than Distant Horizons which seems to have been a pretty "rushed"
>relase (NO RELATION TO LIMBAUGH OR GEDDY LEE, Americans still trying to
>survive the 90s take note!).... And whats the deal with Legendary Pink Dots
>"sound wizard" producing so many recent Hawkwind releases though? (DH for
>one) Did Dave Brock discover him via LPD or?? Wonder what the story is.....
>
>Christian
>
>On 07/03/2007 15:52, John Majka wrote:
> > I don't think Distant Horizons is any worse than Alien 4, for example,
> > so if you like that one, I'd say certainly give DH a try.
>
>Ah, but Alien 4 had Sputnik Stan, which I liked better than the better
>stuff on DH .... :)
>
>Cheers,
>Carl
>
>--
>Carl Edlund
Anderson
>mailto:cea at carlaz.com
>http://www.carlaz.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Wed Mar 7 18:55:44 2007
From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (Mark Storer)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 23:55:44 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind.com
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.235544.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
www.hawkwind.com seems to have disappeared in smoke!!
From itop57 at GMAIL.COM Wed Mar 7 19:04:25 2007
From: itop57 at GMAIL.COM (itop)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 00:04:25 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind.com
In-Reply-To: <00a701c76114$1fad74d0$0200a8c0@roobarb>
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.000425.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
it looks ok to me
On 3/7/07, Mark Storer <mjec.storer at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> www.hawkwind.com seems to have disappeared in smoke!!
>
--
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From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Mar 7 20:02:32 2007
From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 01:02:32 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: <551889.51925.qm@web23011.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.010232.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
..well, ive got all their albums anyway..including a few i wish i hadnt..but
my point was..any NEWCOMER to hawkwind would do FAR FAR FAR better to buy
Epoch Eclipse than ..say..ermm.."text of festival"..lol.. ;-)
>From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: HW:Distant Horizons
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:45:30 +0000
>
>Well the Epoch Eclipse CD is okay for young STONER KIDS WHO WANNA HEAR
>HAWKWIND for the FIRST TIME cause they heard Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet
>take a cr*p and they wanna be like their PARENTS and GET HIGH, well, that
>collection is OKAY FOR BEGINNERS... novices in CLASS TO BEE OF HAWKWIND
>HIGH...... but if you are serious about COLLECTING and COLLECTIONS of prime
>HAWKWIND I recommend the ACID DAZE 2CD on RECEIVER and the FRIENDS AND
>RELATIONS and WEIRD TAPE series, THEY ARE ESSENTIAL!!! ***4 VETERANS
>ONLY*** though......
>
>Christian Who Has No Day Job Other Than Dave Jobs
>
>
>Really..a pretty good guide is the Epoch eclipse triple cd.Nothing from
>Distant horzons on THAT(unless you count D. H.s pointless INSTRUMENTAL vsn
>of Love in Space)..You may also note theres nothing from "It Is The
>Business
>of the future..." AND..obviously..NOTHING from all those badly recorded
>illegal live cds.Its worthy to note,there is a track from "Church of
>hawkwind"..which was far superior to "Business..".
>We can argue all day about tracks included or missing on it..but its
>pretty
>good as an album guide to quality(note-1 cd for 69-74,1 cd for
>75-78,..and..ermm..1 cd for 79-99ish..lol)
> pete
>
>
>
> >From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
> >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> >Subject: Re: HW:Distant Horizons
> >Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:44:45 +0000
> >
> >I thought "Beam Me Up" was the best thing on there, though many may
> >disagree.... ALIEN 4 had better production and conceptual type thing
>going
> >for it than Distant Horizons which seems to have been a pretty "rushed"
> >relase (NO RELATION TO LIMBAUGH OR GEDDY LEE, Americans still trying to
> >survive the 90s take note!).... And whats the deal with Legendary Pink
>Dots
> >"sound wizard" producing so many recent Hawkwind releases though? (DH for
> >one) Did Dave Brock discover him via LPD or?? Wonder what the story
>is.....
> >
> >Christian
> >
> >On 07/03/2007 15:52, John Majka wrote:
> > > I don't think Distant Horizons is any worse than Alien 4, for example,
> > > so if you like that one, I'd say certainly give DH a try.
> >
> >Ah, but Alien 4 had Sputnik Stan, which I liked better than the better
> >stuff on DH .... :)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Carl
> >
> >--
> >Carl Edlund Anderson
> >mailto:cea at carlaz.com
> >http://www.carlaz.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Wed Mar 7 20:08:02 2007
From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 01:08:02 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind.com
In-Reply-To: <d2ddbc5f0703071604t591629fdp360f1e015ab43cde@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.010802.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Try refresh. Looks like someone forgot to renew the domain name
registration!!!
itop wrote:
> it looks ok to me
>
> On 3/7/07, Mark Storer <mjec.storer at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> www.hawkwind.com seems to have disappeared in smoke!!
>>
>
>
>
From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Wed Mar 7 20:31:09 2007
From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:31:09 -0700
Subject: Hawkwind.com
In-Reply-To: <45EF61F2.6090304@darkstar.uk.net>
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.183109.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hmmm. I wonder who 123-reg.co.uk is?
Gonna miss all those stars . . .
Guido
Horse wrote:
> Try refresh. Looks like someone forgot to renew the domain name
> registration!!!
>
> itop wrote:
>> it looks ok to me
>>
>> On 3/7/07, Mark Storer <mjec.storer at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> www.hawkwind.com seems to have disappeared in smoke!!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Wed Mar 7 20:55:06 2007
From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:55:06 -0600
Subject: OFF: Dreadzone + Dub Reggae
In-Reply-To: <d2ddbc5f0703071604t591629fdp360f1e015ab43cde@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <WED.7.MAR.2007.195506.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hey Guys,
I'm looking for suggestions about which 'Dreadzone' album to check out
first since the few things i've heard have been interesting, and also
any other Dub Reggae albums worth a listen. Probably a side effect from
that great reggae sound system that was at Hawkfest ;-)
Rich
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 19:09:00 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 00:09:00 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind.com
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.000900.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
c.
you are joking! its there.... maybe they updated it, thats it......
c.
spotty trained
----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Thursday, 8 March, 2007 12:55:44 AM
Subject: Hawkwind.com
www.hawkwind.com seems to have disappeared in smoke!!
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Mar 7 20:19:45 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0000
Subject: HW:epoch eclipse
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.011945.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
well I was a bit disappointed in it because it didnt reflect my personal 30 year top picks (especially the last disc with recent stuff, which is not a good selection) but then like you say tis a fine collection, a better way to be introduced to Hawkwind than yes Text of Festival for instance, which is a piece o shi*e..... christian
..well, ive got all their albums anyway..including a few i wish i hadnt..but
my point was..any NEWCOMER to hawkwind would do FAR FAR FAR better to buy
Epoch Eclipse than ..say..ermm.."text of festival"..lol.. ;-)
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From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Mar 8 04:51:09 2007
From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:51:09 +0000
Subject: OFF: Dreadzone + Dub Reggae
In-Reply-To: <45EF6CFA.1070707@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.095109.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Rich,
All their Albums are great.....
The BBC sessions CD is a great place to start, has some of their ambient
tunes along with the foot stomping ones..
As for Dub... King Tubby leads the way for me...
Prince Far I, Big Youth, Lee Perry are all excellent places to start...
Iain
Rich W wrote on 08/03/2007, 01:55:
> Hey Guys,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions about which 'Dreadzone' album to check out
> first since the few things i've heard have been interesting, and also
> any other Dub Reggae albums worth a listen. Probably a side effect from
> that great reggae sound system that was at Hawkfest ;-)
>
> Rich
From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Thu Mar 8 05:48:15 2007
From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:48:15 +0100
Subject: Hawkwind.com
In-Reply-To: <45EF675D.5080506@spiralrealm.com>
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.114815.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:31:09 -0700, Guido Vacano wrote
> Hmmm. I wonder who 123-reg.co.uk is?
That's the registrar. Looks very much like a belated renewal of the domain
name registration. As a matter of fact, the domain has been extended until May
4th, 2012. As the record has been updated today, I reckon the domain was
pulled off the net due to expiry of the domain, it was hastily renewed today,
but the registrar hasn't put the domain back on the net. It's probably back
tomorrow. Registrars usually update their zone files only once a day.
Gr,
Arjan H
From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 8 05:58:51 2007
From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:58:51 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind.com
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.105851.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
no it's gone ha ha
----- Original Message -----
From: "itop" <itop57 at GMAIL.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: Hawkwind.com
> it looks ok to me
>
> On 3/7/07, Mark Storer <mjec.storer at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> www.hawkwind.com seems to have disappeared in smoke!!
>>
>
>
>
> --
> work is the curse of the thinking class
>
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 8 06:07:43 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:07:43 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F182C69CD3C3CC9B7CF0FF3B67A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.110743.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 07/03/2007 20:26, pete howe wrote:
> Really..a pretty good guide is the Epoch eclipse triple cd.
Agreed. AFAICT, that's hands-down the best Hawkwind overview.
On 07/03/2007 20:45, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> but if you are serious about COLLECTING and COLLECTIONS of prime
> HAWKWIND I recommend the ACID DAZE 2CD on RECEIVER and the FRIENDS
> AND RELATIONS and WEIRD TAPE series, THEY ARE ESSENTIAL!!!
> ***4 VETERANS ONLY*** though......
It _is_ good stuff, but I think you are right about "4 veterans only"!
A beginner will get a better sense of things with Epoch Eclipse.
Cheers,
Carl
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From Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK Thu Mar 8 06:19:52 2007
From: Maxine.Wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:19:52 +0000
Subject: OFF: Dreadzone + Dub Reggae
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.111952.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Rich sed:
>I'm looking for suggestions about which 'Dreadzone' album to check out
>first since the few things i've heard have been interesting, and also
>any other Dub Reggae albums worth a listen.
My favourite album has to be "Once upon a time.." = quality!! Found it
at a friends the other night and bored him sick by playing it end to
end...
Funnilienuff - I first came across Dreadzone in 2000 at a WOMAD festival
in Las Palmas de las Canarias - I had gone expecting alot more
'multi-culturalism' but discovered that the spanish/black quarter of the
Island consider 'World Music' to be English stuff - makes sense really -
so the festival was a mixture of punk, skiffle and headlining were Edwin
Starr followed by Dreadzone ... (reminds me a bit of that festival in
Norfolk with Hawkwind headlining after Dean Friedman, a gospel choir and
Marie Wilson!).
best regards
Maxine
(And thanks for reminding me I must buy a Dreadzone Album)
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Mar 8 11:23:26 2007
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:23:26 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
In-Reply-To: <45EEDE4A.5010003@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.162326.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
One problem seems to be that HMV and Virgin love stocking this stuff over
"official" releases.
Why do they buy them in and not the new legit stuff? Probably 'cos they are
cheap and include a track called Silver Machine.
TMTYF was not stocked until very recently in my local HMV and after pointing
this out initially they suddenly had plenty of copies of welcome to the
future which they ordered by mistake.
Steve
On 3/7/07, Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at carlaz.com> wrote:
>
> On 07/03/2007 15:19, Stephen Swann wrote:
> > The problem is that for a beginner, there's no easy way to
> > distinguish the crappy bootlegs and shady unauthorized
> > re-releases from the authentic albums.
>
> One could do worse than start at (or near) the beginning of the list on
> <http://www.hawkwind.com/alb/alb_.htm> and working forward. But, yes,
> point taken, and that doesn't help much standing in a record shop!
>
> (On the other hand, I can't remember the last time I bought a CD in a
> shop!)
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> mailto:cea at carlaz.com
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 12:44:50 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:44:50 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
In-Reply-To: <d63946010703080823s65a4e298j6b48e616518fb689@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.174450.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Probably because the poor quality recordings go out through a better distributor than the official ones.
Steve Freight <stevefreight at GMAIL.COM> wrote: One problem seems to be that HMV and Virgin love stocking this stuff over
"official" releases.
Why do they buy them in and not the new legit stuff? Probably 'cos they are
cheap and include a track called Silver Machine.
TMTYF was not stocked until very recently in my local HMV and after pointing
this out initially they suddenly had plenty of copies of welcome to the
future which they ordered by mistake.
Steve
On 3/7/07, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
>
> On 07/03/2007 15:19, Stephen Swann wrote:
> > The problem is that for a beginner, there's no easy way to
> > distinguish the crappy bootlegs and shady unauthorized
> > re-releases from the authentic albums.
>
> One could do worse than start at (or near) the beginning of the list on
> and working forward. But, yes,
> point taken, and that doesn't help much standing in a record shop!
>
> (On the other hand, I can't remember the last time I bought a CD in a
> shop!)
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
> --
> Carl Edlund Anderson
> mailto:cea at carlaz.com
> http://www.carlaz.com/
>
From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Mar 8 16:09:53 2007
From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:09:53 +0100
Subject: HW: Hawkwind Internet site
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.220953.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hello folks
I was asked to post the following info to the lists:
=========================================================
Hawkwind.com has had a serious problem with a DNS
issue that has NOTHING to do with renewals as has been suggested.
It should be up again as soon as the fault gets rectified across the
net's routers
=========================================================
regards
Bernhard
From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Fri Mar 9 06:19:00 2007
From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:19:00 +0100
Subject: HW: Hawkwind Internet site
In-Reply-To: <1HPPrr-18u8si0@fwd33.sul.t-online.de>
Message-ID: <FRI.9.MAR.2007.121900.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:09:53 +0100, bernhard.pospiech wrote
> Hello folks
>
> I was asked to post the following info to the lists:
>
> =========================================================
> Hawkwind.com has had a serious problem with a DNS
> issue that has NOTHING to do with renewals as has been suggested.
> It should be up again as soon as the fault gets rectified across the
> net's routers
> =========================================================
Yeah, I should've read more carefully. The domain was created on may 3, 1996,
and will expire on may 4, 2012, so the domain wasn't up for renewal.
They've changed nameservers (and probably hosting provider) from 123-reg.co.uk
to cybercon.com; it appears that something went seriously wrong in the
process, to say the least. Depending on the nature of the problem, it may take
anything from a few hours to weeks to get this sorted.
Gr,
Arjan H
From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Mar 9 08:17:21 2007
From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:17:21 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind Internet site
Message-ID: <FRI.9.MAR.2007.131721.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
it can even take months...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arjan Hulsebos" <arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind Internet site
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:09:53 +0100, bernhard.pospiech wrote
>> Hello folks
>>
>> I was asked to post the following info to the lists:
>>
>> =========================================================
>> Hawkwind.com has had a serious problem with a DNS
>> issue that has NOTHING to do with renewals as has been suggested.
>> It should be up again as soon as the fault gets rectified across the
>> net's routers
>> =========================================================
>
> Yeah, I should've read more carefully. The domain was created on may 3,
> 1996,
> and will expire on may 4, 2012, so the domain wasn't up for renewal.
>
> They've changed nameservers (and probably hosting provider) from
> 123-reg.co.uk
> to cybercon.com; it appears that something went seriously wrong in the
> process, to say the least. Depending on the nature of the problem, it may
> take
> anything from a few hours to weeks to get this sorted.
>
> Gr,
>
> Arjan H
>
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Mar 8 18:39:15 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:39:15 +0000
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
Message-ID: <THU.8.MAR.2007.233915.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well I sent my Hawkwind stamps off like two months ago and have gotten nothing yet, is the deal expired or what??
Secondly, WHAT IS ON THE CD?? Mail me privately so not to ruin it for everyone :)
christian
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From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Mar 9 13:16:01 2007
From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:16:01 +0000
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
In-Reply-To: <947743.13178.qm@web23007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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the tracks from text of festival , i believe..lol lol lol
>From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
>Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:39:15 +0000
>
>Well I sent my Hawkwind stamps off like two months ago and have gotten
>nothing yet, is the deal expired or what??
>
>Secondly, WHAT IS ON THE CD?? Mail me privately so not to ruin it for
>everyone :)
>
>christian
>
>
>
>
>
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 9 14:58:34 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:58:34 +0000
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
Message-ID: <FRI.9.MAR.2007.195834.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well I try to avoid Hawkwind in the 70s, like Text of Festival, because there is a certain outdated stigma to that particular decade (and as I started out in the 80s with Black Sword and Xenon Codex and am a purist in the 80s material, it has to be NWOBHM or New Wave Hawkwind!!!) - like I don't particularly care for ANY of the 70s albums except Quark, Hawklords and PXR5...... before that Hawkwind might as well have been Grunge like Nirvana or something, just noise and jamming heavy cr*p....... like Silver Machine totally sucks and is so outdated musically it gets old grannies to get up and dance like ABBA or something, Eurovision Bong Contest!!!
Christian
----- Original Message ----
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To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Friday, 9 March, 2007 7:16:01 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
the tracks from text of festival , i believe..lol lol lol
>From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
>Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:39:15 +0000
>
>Well I sent my Hawkwind stamps off like two months ago and have gotten
>nothing yet, is the deal expired or what??
>
>Secondly, WHAT IS ON THE CD?? Mail me privately so not to ruin it for
>everyone :)
>
>christian
>
>
>
>
>
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From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Fri Mar 9 17:51:01 2007
From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:51:01 EST
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
Message-ID: <FRI.9.MAR.2007.175101.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Christian.......wakey wakey. Lots of us started on this stuff, y'know the
"jamming crap". Try being a tad more open minded.
Martin
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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:06:41 -0500
Subject: Aural Innovations: New Alchemical, Drool Trough,
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From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Mar 10 17:29:31 2007
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:29:31 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind.Com
Message-ID: <SAT.10.MAR.2007.222931.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Oh well, thought hawkwind.com was back on it's feet but every link I've
tried sends me to jumbocruisers.com.
Perhaps the next tour bus eh guys?
Steve
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 9 18:19:38 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:19:38 +0000
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
Message-ID: <FRI.9.MAR.2007.231938.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well I WAS a huge fan of In Search Of Space and Mountain Grill etc. in the 80s but always thought Huw and Harvey and Bob to some degree did better versions of those songs on like British Tribal Music and Acid Daze CDs, something about the wicked 80s artwork that wuz reall HEAVY METAL and not just some gruesome PROGROCK secret fantasy (though I was/am known to have my Prog/70s perversions and fantasies, true, at a young age when I also listened to GOTH!) My friends actually thought I was a Pervert for liking Hawkwind in the 80s and 90s at souch a young age,, like oohhh all those underground CDS..... You are one sick Puppy, Christian, "well I am the doctor of Doom if you would care to know" etc. Very ENglish and proper, too I was, in Englsh class, a dapper young dandy indeed :-)
OPEN MINDED I AM DO NOT TAKE MY MIND LITELY ITS SOO FREE YET SO... ALONE!!!!
Thats like a warning cause I am an ESPER and a spelkaster......
Christian
Christian.......wakey wakey. Lots of us started on this stuff, y'know the
"jamming crap". Try being a tad more open minded.
Martin
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 9 18:30:49 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:30:49 +0000
Subject: HW; coping with the curse of demtia
Message-ID: <FRI.9.MAR.2007.233049.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I am a completist rebulding a lost collection, have rebuilt like 90% so far, I've been a Hawkfan since 1988 of Hawkwind, my first year of High School and it WAS the age of 16 and it was a good time. At some point in 2002 I *threw away* about 80 Hawkwind CDs and about 30 spinoff CDs (Turner, Davey etc) and it put in a deep depression
not having my Hawkwind stash anymore it was like really bad, kinda pointless and insane, plus boc-l seemed to reject me in the middle of all that being a member since 1996 having met and traded with many cool people, and suddenly some weird funky conspiracy, cause they thought I was so full of it I deserved it I guess :-/...... well anyway, the story goes well, because I bought Hawkwind and spinoff stuff/books etc.back this fall, spent about 35 000 NOK on the whole Hawkwind Party on my Creditcard!!!!!! On Ebay alone....
THOUGHT THE BOC-L AND THE WORLD NEEDED TO KNOW :-)
Christian
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From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:53:14 +0000
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
Message-ID: <SAT.10.MAR.2007.215314.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well I WAS a huge fan of In Search Of Space and Mountain Grill etc. i
Well I WAS a huge fan of In Search Of Space and Mountain Grill etc. in the 80s but always thought Huw and Harvey and Bob to some degree did better versions of those songs on like British Tribal Music and Acid Daze CDs, something about the wicked 80s artwork that wuz reall HEAVY METAL and not just some gruesome PROGROCK secret fantasy (though I was/am known to have my Prog/70s perversions and fantasies, true, at a young age when I also listened to GOTH!) My friends actually thought I was a Pervert for liking Hawkwind in the 80s and 90s at souch a young age,, like oohhh all those underground CDS..... You are one sick Puppy, Christian, "well I am the doctor of Doom if you would care to know" etc. Very ENglish and proper, too I was, in Englsh class, a
dapper young dandy indeed :-)
OPEN MINDED I AM DO NOT TAKE MY MIND LITELY ITS SOO FREE YET SO... ALONE!!!!
Thats like a warning cause I am an ESPER and a spelkaster......
Christian
Christian.......wakey wakey. Lots of us started on this stuff, y'know the
"jamming crap". Try being a tad more open minded.
Martin
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From heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM Sun Mar 11 09:02:49 2007
From: heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM (tim elliott)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:02:49 -0400
Subject: OFF:Lindsey Buckingham
Message-ID: <SUN.11.MAR.2007.090249.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
If anyone has a chance to see him on tour, don't miss it! Saw him last night
in Orlando and
it was a great show. The man is incredible with his guitar playing; even
more so than
with the Mac. Don't miss him!
tim 8>)...
http://heathcliff13.blogspot.com
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 11 11:24:16 2007
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:24:16 +0000
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F3949681CA2316B1BFE03C0B6840@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SUN.11.MAR.2007.152416.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:09:01PM +0000, pete howe typed out:
> Thats true..i have heard worse.. Anyone heard the dreadful pile of cr*p
> that is "text of festival"??.a double album of blurred noise that comes
> and goes with the wind..(wind direction, that is).
> Bootleg or not..these were released "officially", by some rip-off obscure
> record label.. and theyre probably the worst 2 cds of ANY band ive got in
> cd/vinyl collection.
I reckon the sound on _Text of Festival_ to be better than on
_Yuri Gagarin_, myself, or at least, for the kind of noise that was
actually happening it probably does less damage. The problem with _Yuri
Gagarin_ is that what you can hear of it sounds like it was a really
good gig, but the instruments all blot each other out, half the words
are indistinct and it's all *over there somewhere*. ToF is just muddy,
you can hear all the instruments and the few words are intelligible, and
there's less going on to lose anyway. I resent teh fiver I paid for
_Yuri_ much more than whatever I paid for ToF (though I did at least get
that on double vinyl with the Aid Daze style cover, so it has some
slight artefactual value too). Yours,
Jon
ObCD-R: Mother of All Bands - _Insect Brain_ (Trev seems to have been
right about this burrowing into the head, I am still playing it every
few weeks)
--
"When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"
(Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)
Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Mar 11 11:38:38 2007
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:38:38 +0000
Subject: HW: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <641963.85832.qm@web23209.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.11.MAR.2007.153838.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 08:30:24PM +0000, Colin Allen typed out:
> Glastonbury 1990?
Again, there, though I feel no need to buy it having listened
to Carl's copy, other than annoying audience noise (which ToF mostly
doesn't suffer from--it wasn't audience recordings, was it?) the
recording is at least audible, if muffled. It certainly shouldn't be an
official release without some kind of warning, because it *is* an
audience recording and not a band one, even if they own it, but the gig
was apparently pretty good and you can hear it, albeit badly. There's
whole chunks of _Yuri_ that are just lost to the listener,
which is frustrating because of the unique material. None of that on
_Glastonbury 1990_, as innovation wasn't running so strongly by then I
guess... Yours,
Jon
--
"When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"
(Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)
Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Sun Mar 11 12:11:25 2007
From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:11:25 -0000
Subject: HW: Life on Mars new series
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.62.0702070809160.22936@unecre.hpuvpntb.rqh>
Message-ID: <SUN.11.MAR.2007.161125.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I recently picked up the Life On Mars series 1 DVDs and notice that a lot of
the songs from the telly, don't make it to the DVD, "Stairway to the Stars"
being one of them. I didn't realise that they edited music out of TV DVDs.
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Arin Komins
Sent: 07 February 2007 14:11
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: HW: Life on Mars new series
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Jill Strobridge wrote:
:Subject: HW: Life on Mars new series
:
:Watching a preview for the new Life on Mars series and - yes - they played
:Silver Machine!
It's just a shame that none of the HW tracks are on the Life on Mars
soundtrack cd :-(
Maybe if they do a season 2 soundtrack.....
Arin
(looking forward to the new season. Shame it's the final season though!)
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From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Mar 11 12:21:05 2007
From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich W)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:21:05 -0500
Subject: HW: Life on Mars new series
In-Reply-To: <002a01c763f7$ebe89a30$4101a8c0@studybox>
Message-ID: <SUN.11.MAR.2007.112105.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sadly, yes they do if it's going to cost too much. I bought 'Tour of
Duty' remember that? All the tasty 60's rock music was replaced by
library music on all 3 seasons.
It's a pain.
Rich W
Tony wrote:
> I recently picked up the Life On Mars series 1 DVDs and notice that a lot of
> the songs from the telly, don't make it to the DVD, "Stairway to the Stars"
> being one of them. I didn't realise that they edited music out of TV DVDs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
> Behalf Of Arin Komins
> Sent: 07 February 2007 14:11
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Subject: Re: HW: Life on Mars new series
>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Jill Strobridge wrote:
>
> :Subject: HW: Life on Mars new series
> :
> :Watching a preview for the new Life on Mars series and - yes - they played
> :Silver Machine!
>
> It's just a shame that none of the HW tracks are on the Life on Mars
> soundtrack cd :-(
>
> Maybe if they do a season 2 soundtrack.....
>
> Arin
> (looking forward to the new season. Shame it's the final season though!)
>
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Mar 11 13:34:14 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:34:14 +0000
Subject: HW: XITINTODAY CD for trade
Message-ID: <SUN.11.MAR.2007.173414.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well I have a sealed extra copy of this Nik Turner item and would have it for trade (ordered 2 by mistake!!)
Looking for a couple of out of print HW related items,,,,,,
christian
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From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Mar 12 07:03:02 2007
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:03:02 +0000
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: <BAY128-F19756C591D1B081BE6131CB6810@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <MON.12.MAR.2007.110302.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:01:56PM +0000, pete howe typed out:
> Distant Horizons is a pretty awful album.Up there with the worst IMO.If you
> want to hear a half decent studio song from the richards/tree period, try
> the song "hippy", from the half studio/half live "in your area" cd(still
> available)..That track is a HW classic, and worth the price of the cd for
> that track alone.
It's interesting how opinions differ. I agree that `Hippy' is an
excellent track and it deserves a reissue somewhere, though given that
almost all its writers are now, er, estranged from the band I suppose
that this will never happen. And there are two or three other pieces on
_In Your Area_ I don't mind but basically I never play it. This may in
part be because for the live stuff, the versions on _Hawkwind 1997_,
which I *do* still play, are a lot better to my ears. Mainly because
Rizz is actually contributing something here and there.
_Distant Horizons_ on the other hand I still like quite a lot,
mainly because it shows Ron actually being good, and before the whole
ranting-about-insects-and-genetic-mutation that seems now to be the
limit of his particular art form had got old. It's an oddly split album,
with Brock hardly being noticeable in the upbeat stuff and his own stuff
being only solo-release quality, but I still quite like the whole
thing, instrumental of `Love in Space' excepted. On the other hand,
there is absolutely no way that it's worth what you'd currently have to
pay to get a copy. I paid well over the odds for it at the time just
because of wanting to buy a new Hawkwind release on the high street. And
it is lo-fi, lacks production values and the artwork's awful. So yeah.
But I was quite into that nu-punk thing they were doing in 1997-1998 and
for me that's that album. Yours,
Jon
--
"When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"
(Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)
Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Mar 12 11:53:38 2007
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:53:38 +0000
Subject: OFF: reference in cool Onion article
In-Reply-To: <00d701c75f80$25ad8590$6501a8c0@jillspc>
Message-ID: <MON.12.MAR.2007.155338.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:43:59PM -0000, Jill Strobridge typed out:
> How come Wales gets to hide all these arcane lost rock-riff wonders?
> Wasn't the "recently-discovered-lost Jimmy-Hendrix-tape" <tongue firmly in
> cheek> a version of the Welsh National Anthem? I mean I know Merlin
> nicked the Stonehenge Bluestones from there (at least I don't think he paid
> for them - somehow you get the impression that's not how magicians
> generally conduct their activities) and they've been the focus of a
> festival of some kind or another ever since but I was unaware that Wales
> was also the repository for vaults of ancient rock music. Although if
> it's all stored in the mines the bluestones were taken from...... Now
> there would be a Thing. The Music of the Stones.
I wonder what you would get if you took some kind of reading of
the stones, an ultrasonic one of their composition maybe or a microwave
radar one of their surfaces, and somehow mapped it to sound output.
Actually, no I don't; I wonder how many years behind I am the first
person to think of this and how much Googling I'd have to do to find out
where it's on sale (at which point, I hasten to add, I would shake my
head wryly and close the browser window). Yours,
Jon
--
"When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"
(Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)
Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Mar 12 14:47:52 2007
From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:47:52 +0000
Subject: SLOTERDIJK: 'back on the streets' ( announcing live gis for
spring 2007 )
Message-ID: <MON.12.MAR.2007.184752.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Greetings friends,
it is with pleasure that we announce the first live SLOTERDIJK performances
of 2007!!
April 12th 2007 ( awaiting final confirmation ) Mexicali Blues, Teaneck, New
Jersey ( near NYC )
This is a premier venue, just a stone's throw away from downtown New York
and the surrounding areas. Not only does this place offer fine quality
sound, but also fine quality food and beverages.
If you wish to go 'full tilt' there is even an option for diiner and show
reservations of any combo. Advance tickets will alsa be available with
credit or debit card sales.
Visit: http://www.mexicalibluescafe.com ( at the time of this writing
sloterdijk is not yet on the website calendar of events )
April 28th: Cafe Arabica. Morristown, New Jersey ( venue, restaurant &
HOOKAH BAR! )
CONFIRMED: SLOTERDIJK @ 9pm Dub Soulecters @ 10:30 PM
another class AA venue with a very special extra feature!!
see: http://www.cafearabicaNJ.com for more details!!
Become the band's myspace friend and receive automatic gig reminders and
more!!!
http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1
http://www.soundclick.com/sloterdijk
lineup:
Mike Burro : electric guitars/vocals, synths, programming
Greg Elwell: electric guitars
Jeff Berry: bass, backing vocals
PS: SLOTERDIJK is also seeking dancers/ mimes etc, for a more elaborate
stage presentation. Email uus directly if interested...Peace!!
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 12 14:51:31 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:51:31 GMT
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
In-Reply-To: Rich W's message of Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:11:35 -0600
Message-ID: <MON.12.MAR.2007.185131.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Rich W writes:
> > Incidentally, looks like I can't persuade any mates they like HW
> > enough to come with me to Hawkfest, and I've not been before. I'm
> > assuming people will be friendly and i won't end up spending three
> > days stood at back on me own.
I'll have the brightest coloured jacket on site. Find me and I'll buy
you a beer...
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 12 14:55:43 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:55:43 GMT
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: Edmund Clout's message of Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:28:36 +0000
Message-ID: <MON.12.MAR.2007.185543.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Edmund Clout writes:
> Also, on a comletely different subject; I just got Empire Pool '73, my first
> experience of Hawkwind 'bootleg'/Audience recorded quality stuff, and thank
> god its taken 'til now. No wonder people get angry over Bring me the head...
> if Empire Pool is a superior cleaned up sound source Yuri must be utter
> sh*te.
If you put Mariarchi music on at Volume Eleven in the room next door,
then put your head inside a biscuit tin and put a running vibrator on
the top of it, then eat some ginger snaps, it will sound exactly like
BMtHoYG.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 12 14:57:55 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:57:55 GMT
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: Steve Bishop's message of Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:50:18 +0000
Message-ID: <MON.12.MAR.2007.185755.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Steve Bishop writes:
> But the point is that if these easier to buy cd's are the FIRST
> experience of Hawkwind that anyone gets then they wouldn't know they
> were poor output, they'd just assume the rest of the Hawkwind
> catalogue was equally as crap !
I know someone who years ago bought Yuri and came to that conclusion.
I've been working on curing him.
FoFP
From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 12 14:58:00 2007
From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:58:00 EDT
Subject: HW:Distant Horizons
Message-ID: <MON.12.MAR.2007.145800.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Yer on!
Steve.
In a message dated 03/12/2007 18:52:12 GMT Standard Time,
fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes:
I'll have the brightest coloured jacket on site. Find me and I'll buy
you a beer...
FoFP
From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Mon Mar 12 15:16:18 2007
From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:16:18 +0100
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: <200703121855.l2CIthJP009392@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.12.MAR.2007.201618.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:55:43 GMT, M Holmes wrote
> If you put Mariarchi music on at Volume Eleven in the room next door,
> then put your head inside a biscuit tin and put a running vibrator on
> the top of it, then eat some ginger snaps, it will sound exactly like
> BMtHoYG.
Now, how would he know _that_???
On the original thread, I don't think many newcomers will be put off by these
substandard releases. With so many resources available today, it's relatively
easy to find out what's interesting or not. When I want to check out a new
band, I'd Google a bit, listen to a few tracks on Amazon, maybe download some
stuff. that way, you'll pretty soon find out what's listenable, what's cool,
and what's better avoided.
Gr,
Arjan H
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 13 07:49:27 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:49:27 GMT
Subject: Empire Pool
In-Reply-To: Arjan Hulsebos's message of Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:16:18 +0100
Message-ID: <TUE.13.MAR.2007.114927.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Arjan Hulsebos writes:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:55:43 GMT, M Holmes wrote
> > If you put Mariarchi music on at Volume Eleven in the room next door,
> > then put your head inside a biscuit tin and put a running vibrator on
> > the top of it, then eat some ginger snaps, it will sound exactly like
> > BMtHoYG.
> Now, how would he know _that_???
I have a friend who's a diplomat ;-)
FoFP
From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Tue Mar 13 07:55:24 2007
From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Mike Godwin)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:55:24 +0000
Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 Mar 2007 to 13 Mar 2007 (#2007-53)
In-Reply-To: <BOC-L%200703130500050998.040D@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Message-ID: <TUE.13.MAR.2007.115524.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Quoting BOC-L automatic digest system <LISTSERV at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>:
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:53:38 +0000
> From: Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK>
> Subject: Re: OFF: reference in cool Onion article
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:43:59PM -0000, Jill Strobridge typed out:
>> How come Wales gets to hide all these arcane lost rock-riff wonders?
>> Wasn't the "recently-discovered-lost Jimmy-Hendrix-tape" <tongue firmly in
>> cheek> a version of the Welsh National Anthem?
* It turned out to be the lead guitarist from the Vibrators, who was
interviewed on Newsnight and admitted it.
>> I mean I know Merlin
>> nicked the Stonehenge Bluestones from there (at least I don't think he paid
>> for them - somehow you get the impression that's not how magicians
>> generally conduct their activities)
* Wasn't there a recent theory that the bluestones came from somewhere
a lot nearer to Salisbury Plain?
>> and they've been the focus of a
>> festival of some kind or another ever since but I was unaware that Wales
>> was also the repository for vaults of ancient rock music. Although if
>> it's all stored in the mines the bluestones were taken from...... Now
>> there would be a Thing. The Music of the Stones.
* I think that the reference is to 'Bron-Y-Aur stomp' by LZ and Roy Harper.
> I wonder what you would get if you took some kind of reading of
> the stones, an ultrasonic one of their composition maybe or a microwave
> radar one of their surfaces, and somehow mapped it to sound output.
> Actually, no I don't; I wonder how many years behind I am the first
> person to think of this and how much Googling I'd have to do to find out
> where it's on sale (at which point, I hasten to add, I would shake my
> head wryly and close the browser window). Yours,
> Jon
* Julian Cope is your man for this! He has written an essential book on
the topic.
- Mike Godwin
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 13 12:51:04 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:51:04 GMT
Subject: DNA doodling
Message-ID: <TUE.13.MAR.2007.165104.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
The DNA Cowboys strike again:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&
taxonomyName=storage&articleId=9011945&taxonomyId=19&intsrc=kc_top
Maybe soon I could get some Hawkwind lyrics put into my junk DNA?
FoFP
From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Mar 13 13:25:04 2007
From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:25:04 +0000
Subject: One Eyed Bishops appearance with FREE FOOD and DRINKs: Wed March
28th!!!
Message-ID: <TUE.13.MAR.2007.172504.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
The One Eyed Bishops will make an impromptu appearance at Burlington County
College on Wednesday, March 28th at approximately 8PM..
This appearance is part of a larger event, which includes a karaoke and open
mic evening..
Also FREE FOOD & DRINKS!!!
Karaoke: 5-7 PM ( in the student lounge)
Open Mic 7-9 PM ( BCC Cafeteria ) OEBs to perform soon after 8PM
It's not too late to get on the bill!!! Contact Kristen or Heather at ( 609
) 894-9311 ( ask for the student activities office ) . This event is open to
the public!! also visit: http://www.bcc.edu
Come help support us in our bid for a prize, or choose to compete against
us, it's all for fun!!
Once again that's at: Burlington County College Library | 601 Pemberton
Browns Mills Rd | Pemberton, NJ 08068
Visit the OEBs online at: http://www.oneeyedbishops.com
also keep in touch with SLOTERDIJK at: http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1
and http://www.soundclick.com/sloterdijk ( see sloterdijk spring dates )
From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Mar 13 15:37:30 2007
From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:37:30 +0000
Subject: SLOTERDIJK: 'back on the streets' ( announcing CONFIRMED gigs for
April 2007 )
Message-ID: <TUE.13.MAR.2007.193730.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Greetings friends,
it is with pleasure that we announce the first live SLOTERDIJK performances
of 2007!!
April 12th 2007 Mexicali Blues, Teaneck, New Jersey ( near NYC )
This is a premier venue, just a stone's throw away from downtown New York
and the surrounding areas. Not only does this place offer fine quality
sound, but also fine quality food and beverages.
If you wish to go 'full tilt' there is even an option for dinner and show
reservations of any combo. Advance tickets will alsa be available with
credit or debit card sales.
Visit: http://www.mexicalibluescafe.com ( main venue site )
for ticket info and times:
http://tickets.mexicalibluescafe.com/Default.asp?SearchMonth=&monthsubmit=&SearchText=&MV=&sel=&pg=2&anchor=upcoming#upcoming
We are hoping to see many of our NYC area friends at this show!!!
April 28th: Cafe Arabica. Morristown, New Jersey ( venue, restaurant &
HOOKAH BAR! )
SLOTERDIJK @ 9pm Dub Soulecters @ 10:30 PM
another class A venue with a very special feature!!
see: http://www.cafearabicaNJ.com for more details!!
Become the band's myspace friend and receive automatic gig reminders and
more!!!
http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1
http://www.soundclick.com/sloterdijk
lineup:
Mike Burro : electric guitars/vocals, synths, programming
Greg Elwell: electric guitars
Jeff Berry: bass, backing vocals
PS: SLOTERDIJK is also seeking dancers/ mimes etc, for a more elaborate
stage presentation.
Email us directly if interested...Peace!!
From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Mar 13 16:36:56 2007
From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:36:56 +0100
Subject: DNA doodling
In-Reply-To: <200703131651.l2DGp4EY015343@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.13.MAR.2007.213656.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:51:04 GMT, M Holmes wrote
> The DNA Cowboys strike again:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&
> taxonomyName=storage&articleId=9011945&taxonomyId=19&intsrc=kc_top
Gives a brand new meaning to "data farm".
> Maybe soon I could get some Hawkwind lyrics put into my junk DNA?
Junk DNA? That's alien data storage!
Gr,
Arjan H
From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Mar 14 15:46:34 2007
From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:46:34 -0400
Subject: Hawkfest Bands
Message-ID: <WED.14.MAR.2007.154634.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
**IMPORTANT NEWS**
Hawkwind and Hawkfest are pleased to announce the first batch of bands
confirmed to play the festival.
Included are direct links to their own web sites and also Myspace pages if
they have them.
Precise details such as specific days these bands will be playing on have
yet to be confirmed and there's plenty more to come so keep coming back for
all the latest info, but for now bands confirmed are -
HAWKWIND
http://www.hawkwind.com/
http://www.myspace.com/hawkwindofficial
http://www.myspace.com/hawkfest2007
Spacehead
http://www.myspace.com/spaceheaduk
http://www.spacehead-lab23.co.uk/
TOSH
http://www.myspace.com/techniciansofspaceshiphawkwind
Huw Lloyd Langton
http://www.huwlloyd-langton.co.uk/
Bob Kerr's Whoopee Band
http://www.whoopeeband.de/
Ken Coyler Legacy Band
http://www.kencolyertrust.org/index2.html
Skyclad
http://www.skyclad.co.uk/html/menu.html
Grooveweird
http://www.myspace.com/grooveweird
Omnia Opera
http://www.myspace.com/spacebastards
http://www.omniaopera.co.uk/
Mr Pink
http://www.myspace.com/misterpinkuk
http://www.mister-pink.co.uk/
Tribe Of Cro
http://www.myspace.com/tribeofcro
http://www.thetribeofcro.co.uk/
Radical Dance Faction (RDF)
http://www.myspace.com/radicaldancefaction
Tarantism
http://www.myspace.com/tarantismband
http://www.tarantism.co.uk/
Bruise
http://www.myspace.com/bruiseuk
http://www.bruisemusic.co.uk/
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Mar 15 15:42:41 2007
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:42:41 +0000
Subject: OFF: Litmus in Cambridge
Message-ID: <THU.15.MAR.2007.194241.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Dear All,
Litmus played Cambridge for my birthday, which was
kind of nice of them though they didn't know, and I thought I should do
a review.
This was a Cambridge Rocksoc gig, so the supports were at least
interesting, because the guy who organises their gigs has odd contacts
in weird places. That said, I ignored the first one and stayed in the
pub part of the venue because it was full of people I hadn't seen for
ages. The second band, Godsize, were a kind of doom hardcore effort who
were quite impressive, and had a frontman who could handle heckles with
the best of them, quite different persona in and out of songs. I'd see
them again but I didn't feel the need to download their stuff from
Myspace and so on, you know.
Litmus were a while getting on stage, and seemed a little less
organised than usual. I didn't take a setlist this time because Colin
always has to correct mine, but it would e quite short because most of
the songs they did play, `Tempest' excepted, were stretched out to
include a lot of jamming, some of which was, er, more successful than
the rest. In particular Simon seemed to be off on his own on guitar
without really checking in with the band and this rather bled all the
energy out of `Under the Sign', with which they closed. The set was all
kind of like that, offhand and more relaxed than usual. They did at
least do `(Theta Wave) Inductor' well and people danced that I'd never
expect to dance to spacerock, but I have definitely seen them better,
and hopefully will again at the end of the month in Hitchin. I had a
good time anyway, you know, but Hawkwind would have been better and
that ain't always so :-) Yours,
Jon
Ob12": The Cramps - _Smell of Female_
--
"When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"
(Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)
Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Mar 16 09:26:01 2007
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:26:01 +0000
Subject: Lucky Leif & Lockheed
Message-ID: <FRI.16.MAR.2007.132601.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Don't know if this has already been answered but I think the version of
Midgard is the unintelligible version - at least I could not make any sense
of it - don't have the LP or BGO versions to compare against anymore though.
Re Lockheed - worth buying for the extended Right Stuff and also good to
have, at last, the single edit of Catch A Falling Stafighter, which I always
preferred to the Album version.
Steve
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Mar 17 00:12:20 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:12:20 +0000
Subject: Dingwalls 1986 DVD
Message-ID: <SAT.17.MAR.2007.041220.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Has anyone transferred the ICU Dingwalls 1986 VHS to DVD on this list? Its really an EXCELLENT 2 hour show with Bob Calvert guesting, Nik is outrageous as usual and so is the band + audience is having fun and the video camera/edit effects etc. is really professional (and the sound is so good) you would think it an official release and not a bootleg...... its got to be a favorite amongst this list ???
Christian
NP: Sundial "Overspill" (12" Orange Vinyl Maxi)
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From hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK Sat Mar 17 12:31:58 2007
From: hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK (John-Paul Drinkall)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:31:58 -0400
Subject: bronze film footage
Message-ID: <SAT.17.MAR.2007.123158.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
while watching "who's gonna win" "levitation" and "world of tiers" , the bronze
records promo videos, i was wondering if the whole album was filmed. i know
its only mimed footage but given the lack of hawk video from that era it would
be nice to see a revamped dvd of it. does anybody know anything about this
film? or have it in its entirety?
john-paul
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Mar 17 18:41:54 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:41:54 +0000
Subject: HW: Flicknife Records Years
Message-ID: <SAT.17.MAR.2007.224154.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I always thought it odd cause Flicknife is basically a punk label, though I started out collecting Hawkwind during the Flicknife era, that Hawkwind would be on Flicknife...... perhaps some of their best years, or perhaps the bands darkest to some??
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From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Sat Mar 17 23:01:07 2007
From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:01:07 -0400
Subject: bronze film footage
Message-ID: <SAT.17.MAR.2007.230107.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
what's really great is that German TV footage from circa 1980... Huw's lead
on "Who's Gonna Win the War" is really quite spectacular. I imagine it's
difficult to track down a very good copy, as Kris & Dave wound up asking me
to make a copy of my less-than-stellar tape some years back for their use.
Surely someone must have the actual master or a tape closer in generation to
the master?
John Majka
> while watching "who's gonna win" "levitation" and "world of tiers" , the
> bronze
> records promo videos, i was wondering if the whole album was filmed. i
> know
> its only mimed footage but given the lack of hawk video from that era it
> would
> be nice to see a revamped dvd of it. does anybody know anything about this
> film? or have it in its entirety?
> john-paul
From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Mar 18 08:00:08 2007
From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:00:08 -0400
Subject: Aural Innovations: New Alchemical Radio and Drool Trough Radio
Shows
Message-ID: <SUN.18.MAR.2007.080008.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://Aural-Innovations.com
MARCH 18, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS
I've just uploaded new shows from The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #10),
and Drool Trough Radio (show #59). See the playlists below. Aural
Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and
RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at:
http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html
The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #10)
Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and
features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Space Rock, Progressive
Rock and much much more.
(Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill)
The Lucky Bishops - Silent Car
Basement 3 - Clear
Mountain Mirrors - Field Of Grass
Mostly Autumn - Evergreen
Paul Rose - Return
Sutrobath - Fabulous Nothing
Tidal Flood - Helium
Star Nation - Hey, That's My Blanket
Paul Rose - Transmission
Sutrobath - Wave Break
Basement 3 - Forever
The Bitter Little Cider Apples - Crocodile Head
Star Nation - Star Rats
Drool Trough Radio (show #59)
Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the
underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the
next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade
musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels.
The Fast Camels - "Big Daddy Smyth" (from The Magic Optician)
Diane Marie Kloba - "Hello From Illinois" (from Messages From The
Ionosphere)
Heartscore - "Death in the Opposite House" (from Many Directions)
Magik Plastique - "Spiro" (from We See You)
Court - "Synaptic Ghost" (from Frost of Watermelon)
Glyn Bailey - "Moonwalkers" (from Songs From The Old Illawalla)
David McIntire & Greg Segal - "Bound" (from Wonder, Doubt and Curiosity)
Anton Barbeau - "Alphalpha Bhang" (from Drug Free!)
The Bitter Little Cider Apples - "B.L.C.A." (from Still)
Cheese - "Forever Dumb" (from Let It Brie: 1994-1997)
Garfield's Birthday - "Memories Fade" (from Mr Newton E.P.)
Shinyville - "Free Makeover" (from No Sleep Till Babylon)
Malassis - "Looking For Gold" (from Birds Like Bricks)
Karac - "Beautiful Day" (from Myspace.com site)
Sully Sixty - "Stolen Pearls" (from Myspace.com site)
Pilotos - "She's One Of A Kind" (from Thank God for the Devil)
diGBox - "Guilt" (from Ignorance and Want)
Sound Proof - "Cowboys" (from Sound Proof)
Awful Drivers - "Perishable Humans" (from Perishable Humans)
Sur la mer - "Lento" (from Prelude to the Sea)
http://Aural-Innovations.com
From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Mar 18 08:22:44 2007
From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:22:44 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
Message-ID: <SUN.18.MAR.2007.122244.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Can't answer that one Paul, But I'd love to know where the footage of the
Hawklords shown on Top Ten about 5 years ago is. Apparently the whole show
was filmed by an Italian company, so it's out there somewhere. What I'd give
to see that!
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From hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK Sun Mar 18 10:27:37 2007
From: hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK (John-Paul Drinkall)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:27:37 -0400
Subject: bronze film footage
Message-ID: <SUN.18.MAR.2007.102737.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
hi eddie, rumour has it that is was footage from a gig at uxbridge. as you say
what would you give to see that. i have a feeling there may be more film out
there than everyone realises from all eras. even the silent spaceritual stuff
should be released, dub it, a la genesis with the lamb lies down video. i bet
there is someone on this list could do it. i'll wager the promised films from take
me to your future never sees the light of day either. when i asked d.brock at
magna he just shrugged and said "voiceprint". enough said.
jp
From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Sun Mar 18 18:57:21 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:57:21 -0400
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
In-Reply-To: <535880.28251.qm@web23009.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.18.MAR.2007.185721.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 07:58:34PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> - like I don't particularly care for ANY of the 70s albums
> except Quark, Hawklords and PXR5...... before that
> Hawkwind might as well have been Grunge like Nirvana or
> something, just noise and jamming heavy cr*p.......
Don't make me come over there.
Steve
From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Sun Mar 18 19:43:49 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:43:49 -0400
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
In-Reply-To: <20070318232032.62707.qmail@web23003.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.18.MAR.2007.194349.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 11:20:32PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> well read my other post about ISOS and MOTG, I like em too! I was exaggerating abit :)
>
> Now come over here or I'll make you........
Truth is that I'm a NWOBHM weenie too, I love what a lot of
list members slag as the "Lloyd-Langton speed metal" era, and
Live Chronicles is a serious contender for my favorite album
ever... ;-)
Steve
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Mar 18 19:18:14 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:18:14 +0000
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
Message-ID: <SUN.18.MAR.2007.231814.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
----- Original Message ----
From: Stephen Swann <swann at PLUTONIA.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Sunday, 18 March, 2007 11:57:21 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 07:58:34PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> - like I don't particularly care for ANY of the 70s albums
> except Quark, Hawklords and PXR5...... before that
> Hawkwind might as well have been Grunge like Nirvana or
> something, just noise and jamming heavy cr*p.......
Don't make me come over there.
Steve
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Mar 18 19:20:32 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:20:32 +0000
Subject: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
Message-ID: <SUN.18.MAR.2007.232032.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
well read my other post about ISOS and MOTG, I like em too! I was exaggerating abit :)
Now come over here or I'll make you........
----- Original Message ----
From: Stephen Swann <swann at PLUTONIA.COM>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Sunday, 18 March, 2007 11:57:21 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Voiceprint Surprise HAWKWIND CD
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 07:58:34PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> - like I don't particularly care for ANY of the 70s albums
> except Quark, Hawklords and PXR5...... before that
> Hawkwind might as well have been Grunge like Nirvana or
> something, just noise and jamming heavy cr*p.......
Don't make me come over there.
Steve
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From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 06:37:17 2007
From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:37:17 -0000
Subject: OFF: a little bit of lunacy?
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.103717.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Something to do while making the breakfast (from the BBC website)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6460089.stm
"I discovered that if you put lunar soil in your microwave oven, next to
your tea, it will melt at 1,200C before your tea boils - which is a magical
thing," Professor Larry Taylor, director of the Planetary Geosciences
Institute at Tennessee.
However it's part of a more problematic story that suggests lunar dust might
cause the equivalent of silicosis in humans - which rather puts in jeopardy
any long-term habitation there 8-(
jill
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==============================================
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 19 06:49:46 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:49:46 GMT
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: John-Paul Drinkall's message of Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:31:58 -0400
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.104946.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
John-Paul Drinkall writes:
> while watching "who's gonna win" "levitation" and "world of tiers" ,
> the bronze records promo videos, i was wondering if the whole album
> was filmed. i know its only mimed footage but given the lack of hawk
> video from that era it would be nice to see a revamped dvd of it.
> does anybody know anything about this film? or have it in its
> entirety?
I have an original copy and those are the only tracks.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 19 06:51:22 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:51:22 GMT
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: eddie jobson's message of Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:22:44 +0000
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.105122.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
eddie jobson writes:
> Can't answer that one Paul, But I'd love to know where the footage of the
> Hawklords shown on Top Ten about 5 years ago is. Apparently the whole show
> was filmed by an Italian company, so it's out there somewhere. What I'd give
> to see that!
Yeah, it'd be quite something to see Bob in his full aspect...
FoFP
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 07:15:20 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:15:20 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <200703191051.l2JApMeG023849@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.111520.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I have seen parts of this, back when I was involved with "You Know Who"; the quality is stunning and seeing Calvert on film is especially interesting. However, I have to say that it did not come across as being the best gig ever.
M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK> wrote: eddie jobson writes:
> Can't answer that one Paul, But I'd love to know where the footage of the
> Hawklords shown on Top Ten about 5 years ago is. Apparently the whole show
> was filmed by an Italian company, so it's out there somewhere. What I'd give
> to see that!
Yeah, it'd be quite something to see Bob in his full aspect...
FoFP
From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Mar 19 07:26:00 2007
From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:26:00 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <20070319111521.3777.qmail@web23215.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.112600.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Who cares,
everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually no
one has seen it..
Everyone would get a cut of the money, they could even put it into a 3rd
party to deal with the royalties, if that were an issue ( which they
would bound to be)
I don't care if its out a tune, timing to cock, just let me see
it....the band were mainly off their chump in the 70's anyway.
Unfortunately I have this feeling that its just gonna get buried like
all other footage of bands that isn't top notch, or dont get along, and
would rather no one get to see it.
even Gong have finally released the classic era DVD, its only 24mins long...
Fuck it, I demand to see that footage, its is our inheritance, not
theirs....
Colin Allen wrote on 19/03/2007, 11:15:
> I have seen parts of this, back when I was involved with "You Know
> Who"; the quality is stunning and seeing Calvert on film is especially
> interesting. However, I have to say that it did not come across as
> being the best gig ever.
>
> M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK> wrote: eddie jobson writes:
>
> > Can't answer that one Paul, But I'd love to know where the footage
> of the
> > Hawklords shown on Top Ten about 5 years ago is. Apparently the
> whole show
> > was filmed by an Italian company, so it's out there somewhere. What
> I'd give
> > to see that!
>
> Yeah, it'd be quite something to see Bob in his full aspect...
>
> FoFP
>
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 07:40:27 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:40:27 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <45FE7348.6020001@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.114027.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
It may actually all be rather more complex than that. At the time, the band only had small portions of the Hawklords footage, with the full version apparently being in the physical possession of an unrelated third party.
However, given that people want to give them money for copies of the footage, one would hope that a way could be found of releasing it at some point.
Iain Ferguson <iainferguson at AOL.COM> wrote:
Who cares,
everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually no
one has seen it..
Everyone would get a cut of the money, they could even put it into a 3rd
party to deal with the royalties, if that were an issue ( which they
would bound to be)
I don't care if its out a tune, timing to cock, just let me see
it....the band were mainly off their chump in the 70's anyway.
Unfortunately I have this feeling that its just gonna get buried like
all other footage of bands that isn't top notch, or dont get along, and
would rather no one get to see it.
even Gong have finally released the classic era DVD, its only 24mins long...
Fuck it, I demand to see that footage, its is our inheritance, not
theirs....
Colin Allen wrote on 19/03/2007, 11:15:
> I have seen parts of this, back when I was involved with "You Know
> Who"; the quality is stunning and seeing Calvert on film is especially
> interesting. However, I have to say that it did not come across as
> being the best gig ever.
>
> M Holmes wrote: eddie jobson writes:
>
> > Can't answer that one Paul, But I'd love to know where the footage
> of the
> > Hawklords shown on Top Ten about 5 years ago is. Apparently the
> whole show
> > was filmed by an Italian company, so it's out there somewhere. What
> I'd give
> > to see that!
>
> Yeah, it'd be quite something to see Bob in his full aspect...
>
> FoFP
>
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 19 08:16:50 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:16:50 GMT
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:26:00 +0000
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.121650.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Iain Ferguson writes:
> Who cares,
>
> everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
>
> they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually no
> one has seen it..
>
> I don't care if its out a tune, timing to cock, just let me see
> it....the band were mainly off their chump in the 70's anyway.
>
> Unfortunately I have this feeling that its just gonna get buried like
> all other footage of bands that isn't top notch, or dont get along, and
> would rather no one get to see it.
I just don't see the missing sound being a gigantic issue. The reason
we want video is so that we can *see* the band. Look at the TotP "Silver
Machine" video. It's just footage from 1972 with the single played over
it. If we can enjoy that then we can certainly enjoy video of a whole
Space Ritual concert.
For sound, we have Space Ritual, Space Ritual II, and the two Brian
Matthews tracks, as well as whatever Dave has tucked away in the attic.
Sure, it'd take a largish number of man-hours to match sound to video if
some clever editing were to be done. On the other hand, the work can now
be done on any average gaming PC. A simple way to get it done would be
for the band to farm a track each out to any of us who volunteer. It
might not be perfect, but it would certainly be better than the blank
screen we currently have.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 19 08:17:51 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:17:51 GMT
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:40:27 +0000
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.121751.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Colin Allen writes:
> It may actually all be rather more complex than that. At the time,
> the band only had small portions of the Hawklords footage, with the
> full version apparently being in the physical possession of an
> unrelated third party.
> However, given that people want to give them money for copies of the
> footage, one would hope that a way could be found of releasing it at
> some point.
Any idea who it is and how much money they'd want to hand it over?
FoFP
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 10:23:58 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:23:58 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <200703191217.l2JCHph1017242@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.142358.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I did know the name and probably have it written down somewhere; I will check.
M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK> wrote: Colin Allen writes:
> It may actually all be rather more complex than that. At the time,
> the band only had small portions of the Hawklords footage, with the
> full version apparently being in the physical possession of an
> unrelated third party.
> However, given that people want to give them money for copies of the
> footage, one would hope that a way could be found of releasing it at
> some point.
Any idea who it is and how much money they'd want to hand it over?
FoFP
From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Mar 19 10:46:06 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:46:06 -0400
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <45FE7348.6020001@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.104606.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:26:00AM +0000, Iain Ferguson wrote:
> Who cares,
>
> everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
>
> they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually no
> one has seen it..
There's Space Ritual footage??? And no one has ever released it?
AARGRGHGHRRHGHGHRGHGHRRRGHGHGHGRHGRHRGHGH!
apoplectic,
Steve
From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Mar 19 10:59:55 2007
From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason M. Scruton)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:59:55 -0400
Subject: BOC: joe bouchard interview online
In-Reply-To: <20070319144606.GA24637@plutonia.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.105955.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://www.ktyd.com/pages/early.html
there's a link to the windows media file of a radio interview w/ him.
it starts with the SNL skit, up to the "more cowell" line. It's
interesting and entertaining.
Also, on the new SEE, my favorite things are the 5 guitar solo, it's
more dramatic an arrangement than the ME262 version. Also, the riffs
that took "ooooh eyes'" place are pretty cool.
Where did the DVD footage come from? was it in Sony's vaults? or one
of the band/producers?
Last Q: Has anyone heard any news about how Allen Lanier is faring,
since he's missed a few gigs of late?
J.
From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Mon Mar 19 11:07:47 2007
From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:07:47 +0100
Subject: bronze film footage
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.160747.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well,the "Silver Machine" footage with Stacia blowing bubbles is from the
Space Ritual.The Bronze footage is on the 2 video
"concerts,festivals,private parties1979-1989/1979-1992" I think.
greetings filip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Swann" <swann at PLUTONIA.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: bronze film footage
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:26:00AM +0000, Iain Ferguson wrote:
>> Who cares,
>>
>> everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
>>
>> they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually no
>> one has seen it..
>
> There's Space Ritual footage??? And no one has ever released it?
>
> AARGRGHGHRRHGHGHRGHGHRRRGHGHGHGRHGRHRGHGH!
>
> apoplectic,
> Steve
>
>
From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Mar 19 11:09:29 2007
From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:09:29 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <45FE7348.6020001@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.150929.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Here here
>From: Iain Ferguson <iainferguson at AOL.COM>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: bronze film footage
>Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:26:00 +0000
>
>Who cares,
>
>everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
>
>they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually no
>one has seen it..
>
>Everyone would get a cut of the money, they could even put it into a 3rd
>party to deal with the royalties, if that were an issue ( which they
>would bound to be)
>
>I don't care if its out a tune, timing to cock, just let me see
>it....the band were mainly off their chump in the 70's anyway.
>
>Unfortunately I have this feeling that its just gonna get buried like
>all other footage of bands that isn't top notch, or dont get along, and
>would rather no one get to see it.
>
>even Gong have finally released the classic era DVD, its only 24mins
>long...
>
>Fuck it, I demand to see that footage, its is our inheritance, not
>theirs....
>
>
>Colin Allen wrote on 19/03/2007, 11:15:
>
> > I have seen parts of this, back when I was involved with "You Know
> > Who"; the quality is stunning and seeing Calvert on film is especially
> > interesting. However, I have to say that it did not come across as
> > being the best gig ever.
> >
> > M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK> wrote: eddie jobson writes:
> >
> > > Can't answer that one Paul, But I'd love to know where the footage
> > of the
> > > Hawklords shown on Top Ten about 5 years ago is. Apparently the
> > whole show
> > > was filmed by an Italian company, so it's out there somewhere. What
> > I'd give
> > > to see that!
> >
> > Yeah, it'd be quite something to see Bob in his full aspect...
> >
> > FoFP
> >
_________________________________________________________________
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From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Mar 19 11:20:46 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:20:46 -0400
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <000601c76a38$5ac1c670$0202a8c0@filip>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.112046.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 04:07:47PM +0100, Filip Vanhuyse wrote:
> Well,the "Silver Machine" footage with Stacia blowing bubbles is from the
> Space Ritual.The Bronze footage is on the 2 video
> "concerts,festivals,private parties1979-1989/1979-1992" I think.
Really? I fucking love that clip - but I thought it was
taped off Top of the Pops. Is that whole TOTP clip
artificially constructed then, or did TOTP show that footage
rather than have the band perform?
And, is the rest of the SR footage basically like that? And,
and, and... where do I send my check goddammitall???
Is this going to be one of those situations like when Dave
was surprised that we all love his guitar playing and want to
hear more of it? Like, "Oh, you guys actually *want* that
old Space Ritual video? Who knew...?"
Steve
From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Mar 19 11:30:08 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:30:08 -0400
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
In-Reply-To: <201742.43666.qm@web23012.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.113008.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 05:06:34PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
>
> Why this list was started? To let people find out ??? :-)
It was started because I wasn't having much luck getting
discussions started about BOC or Hawkwind on alt.rock-n-roll
or alt.rock-n-roll.metal, most people were too interested in
having pissing contests over which bands were poseurs. So I
decided to start a list where I could boot off anyone who
was being obnoxious. Fortunately, BOC and Hawkwind fans are
a cool bunch of people, and we seldom had a problem with
that. ;-)
> Thanks Steve! I must have had about 50 Hawkwind CDs when I
> joined BOC-L in 1996, it seemed like UK was the hippest
> country on the planet, I had just moved back to Europe
> from 3 years in USA,,, and BOC-L was GROOVY!!
BOC-L _is_ groovy. :)
Steve
From daveb10000 at NTLWORLD.COM Mon Mar 19 11:48:22 2007
From: daveb10000 at NTLWORLD.COM (Dave Bottomley)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:48:22 -0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <20070319152046.GB24105@plutonia.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.154822.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi Steve
I'm pretty sure the TotP footage pre-dates the Space Ritual by a few months.
In fact, did they ever perform SM as part of the Space Ritual? AFAIR, it was
filmed at Dunstable sometime in the summer of 1972 (July?), specially *for*
TotP. My presumption is therefore that it was at least commissioned by, if
not filmed by, the BBC. Anyone know if I'm wrong to make that assumption?
Whilst it appears that it's Silver Machine being performed during some
sections, I wouldn't be at all surprised if what we're seeing is a actually
composite of different bits/songs from the gig. So, the real question is -
how much of the Dunstable gig did they film? And where are the out-takes?!
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Stephen Swann
Sent: 19 March 2007 15:21
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: bronze film footage
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 04:07:47PM +0100, Filip Vanhuyse wrote:
> Well,the "Silver Machine" footage with Stacia blowing bubbles is from
> the
> Space Ritual.The Bronze footage is on the 2 video
> "concerts,festivals,private parties1979-1989/1979-1992" I think.
Really? I fucking love that clip - but I thought it was
taped off Top of the Pops. Is that whole TOTP clip artificially constructed
then, or did TOTP show that footage rather than have the band perform?
And, is the rest of the SR footage basically like that? And,
and, and... where do I send my check goddammitall???
Is this going to be one of those situations like when Dave
was surprised that we all love his guitar playing and want to hear more of
it? Like, "Oh, you guys actually *want* that old Space Ritual video? Who
knew...?"
Steve
From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Mar 19 11:51:00 2007
From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:51:00 +0100
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <000601c76a38$5ac1c670$0202a8c0@filip>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.165100.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
The well known SILVER MACHINE footage from TOTP is from the Dunstable show
07.07.1972.
The sound is indeed from the reworked Roundhouse version from 13.02.1972
with Lemmy on vocals instead of Rob Calvert
Cheers
Bernhard
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Filip Vanhuyse
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:08 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: bronze film footage
Well,the "Silver Machine" footage with Stacia blowing bubbles is from the
Space Ritual.The Bronze footage is on the 2 video
"concerts,festivals,private parties1979-1989/1979-1992" I think.
greetings filip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Swann" <swann at PLUTONIA.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: bronze film footage
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:26:00AM +0000, Iain Ferguson wrote:
>> Who cares,
>>
>> everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
>>
>> they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually no
>> one has seen it..
>
> There's Space Ritual footage??? And no one has ever released it?
>
> AARGRGHGHRRHGHGHRGHGHRRRGHGHGHGRHGRHRGHGH!
>
> apoplectic,
> Steve
>
>
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 12:24:08 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:24:08 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <1HTK8H-106qtl0@fwd33.sul.t-online.de>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.162408.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Bernhard,
That is what is always said but I have also been told that Calvert was not at the Dunstable gig. Any ideas on that?
"bernhard.pospiech" <bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:
The well known SILVER MACHINE footage from TOTP is from the Dunstable show
07.07.1972.
The sound is indeed from the reworked Roundhouse version from 13.02.1972
with Lemmy on vocals instead of Rob Calvert
Cheers
Bernhard
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Filip Vanhuyse
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:08 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: bronze film footage
Well,the "Silver Machine" footage with Stacia blowing bubbles is from the
Space Ritual.The Bronze footage is on the 2 video
"concerts,festivals,private parties1979-1989/1979-1992" I think.
greetings filip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Swann"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: bronze film footage
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:26:00AM +0000, Iain Ferguson wrote:
>> Who cares,
>>
>> everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
>>
>> they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually no
>> one has seen it..
>
> There's Space Ritual footage??? And no one has ever released it?
>
> AARGRGHGHRRHGHGHRGHGHRRRGHGHGHGRHGRHRGHGH!
>
> apoplectic,
> Steve
>
>
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 19 12:56:25 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:56:25 GMT
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: Stephen Swann's message of Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:20:46 -0400
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.165625.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Stephen Swann writes:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 04:07:47PM +0100, Filip Vanhuyse wrote:
> > Well,the "Silver Machine" footage with Stacia blowing bubbles is from the
> > Space Ritual.The Bronze footage is on the 2 video
> > "concerts,festivals,private parties1979-1989/1979-1992" I think.
>
> Really? I fucking love that clip - but I thought it was
> taped off Top of the Pops. Is that whole TOTP clip
> artificially constructed then, or did TOTP show that footage
> rather than have the band perform?
The story as I heard it: The band refused to appear on ToTP and
challenged the Beeb to come to a gig. The BBC sent the Outside
Broadcast team to record the gig. Calculations on timing suggest that
this was most likely the Dunstable Queensway gig on 7/7/72. The ToTP
broadcast included video cuts from the gig being broadcast along with
the sound from the Silver Machine single (itself an edit from the
Edmonton Sundown gig - the original recording appeared on the
Glastonbury Fayre triple-LP). The only other appearance from that gig
that I know about was the broadcast of "Silver Machine" and "Brainstorm"
in August of 1972 on the Brian Matthews Top of the Pops radio show. In
both cases the live recording was broadcast. There would have been 24
BBC Transcription discs made containing those two tracks (by BBC
Radiophonic Workshop), but the local BBC stations were ordered to
destroy these after the show. So far we've only heard of one survivor.
What I don't know is whether the rumoured "Space Ritual" video without
the sound is from that same gig. If it is, then we at least have the
sound which can be matched to video for two tracks. However, given it's
a BBC transcription disc they're on, there are undoubtedly some
interesting copyright issues. No doubt the easiest thing to do would be to
pretend the sound came from "someone's attic".
> And, is the rest of the SR footage basically like that? And,
> and, and... where do I send my check goddammitall???
I've no doubt a whipround here would net some funds with which to tempt
the holders of the footage ;-)
> Is this going to be one of those situations like when Dave
> was surprised that we all love his guitar playing and want to
> hear more of it? Like, "Oh, you guys actually *want* that
> old Space Ritual video? Who knew...?"
Heh. I suspect the real issues are copyright. Then again, as a
capitalist, I know that such questions can easily melt under the light
of cold hard cash.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 19 13:01:37 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:01:37 GMT
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: Colin Allen's message of Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:24:08 +0000
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.170137.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Colin Allen writes:
> Bernhard,
> That is what is always said but I have also been told that Calvert
> was not at the Dunstable gig. Any ideas on that?
> "bernhard.pospiech" <bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:
> The well known SILVER MACHINE footage from TOTP is from the Dunstable show
> 07.07.1972.
> The sound is indeed from the reworked Roundhouse version from 13.02.1972
> with Lemmy on vocals instead of Rob Calvert
Woops! Did I say Edmonton? Naturally I bow to Bernhard where questions
of provenance are concerned.
So, suppose I found the time to take the ToTP video and match it up to
the live "Silver Machine" sound. What would be the easiest package (for
a PC) for me to buy, learn, and edit it? Would Cap'n Dave set the dogs
on me if I made the result available to fans on BOC-L?
FoFP
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 19 13:03:03 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:03:03 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <20070319152046.GB24105@plutonia.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.170303.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 19/03/2007 15:20, Stephen Swann wrote:
> Is this going to be one of those situations like when Dave
> was surprised that we all love his guitar playing and want to
> hear more of it?
I am just going to take this opportunity to say that I have never yet
heard _too_much_ of Dave's guitar. :) I realize he's been letting it
out for a roam around a bit more recently, but there could always be _more_.
Secondly, and completely off-topic, I'm going to ask whether anyone
knows whether the Roadburn recordings from last year are still likely to
see some kind of decent sounding release (as opposed to rips from the
RealAudio that we all discussed to death)?
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 19 13:05:35 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:05:35 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <200703191701.l2JH1bgb011055@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.170535.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 19/03/2007 17:01, M Holmes wrote:
> So, suppose I found the time to take the ToTP video and match it up to
> the live "Silver Machine" sound. What would be the easiest package (for
> a PC) for me to buy, learn, and edit it?
iMovie if you've got a Mac. Otherwise I've no idea!
> Would Cap'n Dave set the dogs
> on me if I made the result available to fans on BOC-L?
Mmmmm ... yeah, probably! :) ;)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 19 13:11:52 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:11:52 GMT
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:03:03 +0000
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.171152.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Carl Edlund Anderson writes:
> I am just going to take this opportunity to say that I have never yet
> heard _too_much_ of Dave's guitar. :) I realize he's been letting it
> out for a roam around a bit more recently, but there could always be _more_.
What we neeed is more of Dave's harmonica...
FoFP
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 19 13:15:23 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:15:23 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <200703191711.l2JHBqhv013410@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.171523.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 19/03/2007 17:11, M Holmes wrote:
> What we neeed is more of Dave's harmonica...
On principal I'd like to say "yes", but I fear it might distract him
from the guitar, and I want to stay "on message" here :)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Mar 19 13:18:20 2007
From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:18:20 +0100
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <20070319162408.10435.qmail@web23215.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.181820.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi Colin
>That is what is always said but I have also been told that Calvert was not
at the Dunstable gig.
Thats true. He was not at the Dunstable gig.
And of course he is NOT in this short Silver Machine video
I am very sure that the video footage is from Dunstable 07.07.72
Cheers
Bernhard
"bernhard.pospiech" <bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE> wrote:
The well known SILVER MACHINE footage from TOTP is from the Dunstable show
07.07.1972.
The sound is indeed from the reworked Roundhouse version from 13.02.1972
with Lemmy on vocals instead of Rob Calvert
Cheers
Bernhard
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On
Behalf Of Filip Vanhuyse
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:08 PM
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: bronze film footage
Well,the "Silver Machine" footage with Stacia blowing bubbles is from the
Space Ritual.The Bronze footage is on the 2 video
"concerts,festivals,private parties1979-1989/1979-1992" I think.
greetings filip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Swann"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: bronze film footage
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:26:00AM +0000, Iain Ferguson wrote:
>> Who cares,
>>
>> everyone wants to see this & the Space Ritual footage..
>>
>> they are the holy fricking grail of Hawkwind footage, and virtually
>> no one has seen it..
>
> There's Space Ritual footage??? And no one has ever released it?
>
> AARGRGHGHRRHGHGHRGHGHRRRGHGHGHGRHGRHRGHGH!
>
> apoplectic,
> Steve
>
>
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 19 14:01:57 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:01:57 GMT
Subject: screwup on Hawkwind homepage?
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.180157.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
They have the Hawkfest event on the front page. There's a link to the
website at the bottom, but it clicks through to the Buy Ticket page
again. There's no way to get to the website...
FoFP
From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 16:39:51 2007
From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:39:51 -0000
Subject: screwup on Hawkwind homepage?
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.203951.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
It appears so. See this mesage from 9th March.
jill
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:09:53 +0100, bernhard.pospiech wrote
> Hello folks
>
> I was asked to post the following info to the lists:
>
> =========================================================
> Hawkwind.com has had a serious problem with a DNS
> issue that has NOTHING to do with renewals as has been suggested.
> It should be up again as soon as the fault gets rectified across the
> net's routers
> =========================================================
Yeah, I should've read more carefully. The domain was created on may 3,
1996,
and will expire on may 4, 2012, so the domain wasn't up for renewal.
They've changed nameservers (and probably hosting provider) from
123-reg.co.uk
to cybercon.com; it appears that something went seriously wrong in the
process, to say the least. Depending on the nature of the problem, it may
take
anything from a few hours to weeks to get this sorted.
Gr,
Arjan H
==============================================
Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk>
==============================================
----- Original Message -----
From: "M Holmes" <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 6:01 PM
Subject: screwup on Hawkwind homepage?
> They have the Hawkfest event on the front page. There's a link to the
> website at the bottom, but it clicks through to the Buy Ticket page
> again. There's no way to get to the website...
>
> FoFP
>
>
>
>
From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Mon Mar 19 16:48:32 2007
From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:48:32 -0600
Subject: screwup on Hawkwind homepage?
In-Reply-To: <200703191801.l2JI1vJ0021184@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.144832.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
It's the same URL. Why they did that . . . ?
Guido
M Holmes wrote:
> They have the Hawkfest event on the front page. There's a link to the
> website at the bottom, but it clicks through to the Buy Ticket page
> again. There's no way to get to the website...
>
> FoFP
>
>
From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Mon Mar 19 17:47:10 2007
From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:47:10 -0700
Subject: HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <200703191216.l2JCGoVQ017054@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.144710.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi Folks...
It's nice the see the list active again, even if its a little bit focussed on the "minutia" of audio sources and the like. Such things are critical I guess.
And you know, I brought up this Space Ritual video "rumour" about a year ago, as I had noticed some teasing mention of some mysterious "Hawkwind Project" that was alluded to on Voiceprint's site (I think it was). Now that others here are discussing this, I suppose I should ask if anyone has any info about whether the band/Voiceprint are really in the process of doing the audio/video match, or what?
On a totally different note, it looks as though I will shortly be leaving the US for some length of time, though for where and for how long, who can say? I'm just sick of living in Columbus, and since I have no job and no life here, what is there to lose? So I will see all of you at Hawkfest in June, and then will be around the continent for the rest of summer festival season, and if a miracle occurs, find a job and a new home somewhere close by.
That means I'm again in liquidation mode, as I want to get rid of as much stuff as I possibly can. So, a couple quick questions...
Vinyl: I sold off a bunch of my old vinyl four years ago, when I moved to Europe the first time, so I only have the "good" stuff left. Maybe 100-120 or so. About half of it is really unusual stuff that I'd like to keep, because it is either not on CD, or else special ltd. ed. releases. The rest of it is essentially Hawkwind, Amon Duul II, and Gong (plus a couple Nektar and Can LPs I guess). So maybe 60-70 items, near complete of those three bands (one-two missing) dating from 1970-1989. Also, a handful of Hawkwind singles (Your Last chance, WGWTW x 2, etc.) Oh, and the Calvert LPs, and a couple other solo. Hey, is Steve Swindells' Fresh Blood on CD yet? (Should I save the LP?)
I don't play vinyl any more, and although it would be nice to keep them, it really doesn't make sense to ship them back across the ocean from whence they came. It's hard enough to find European space rock in the US as it is...once they've been imported at great expense, it kind of makes sense to keep them here in the market. So I'm making up a list of the ones I am willing to let go and doing my best to grade them (I'm no expert...they are mostly in very good shape, with a few exceptions. I took good care of them, though some I bought already used, so...). I would like the sell the whole thing as a lot...I don't have the patience and time to spend doing them one at a time on Ebay, as they are hard to ship and such.
Is there anybody here, or anybody any of you knows, that might be interested in this lot? I don't know what the price would be - I'm thinking that a lot of it would go in the $6-$10 range individually, so I'm thinking perhaps "half-price" on that, for a total in the $300-$350 range. (I have a really nice Moorcock New Worlds Fair vinyl - that I might do an individual deal on, either as part of, or separate from, this lot. I'm not sure what it's worth these days, but it must be alot.) Obviously I'm looking for someone in the US or Canada, as if I were going to send it to Europe/elsewhere, I'd take it with me to keep. What would be great is if someone "nearby" would be willing to come down and pick them up. I'll probably be going to Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and central PA in the next two months, so that would be my geographical range. I couldn't imagine how much it would charge to ship/insure. Luckily, many American Hawkfans live in the "Greater Lake" region
(Buffalo-Milwaukee corridor).
Also, I have five or six Hawkwind t-shirts that are old and a bit worn, but I just can't throw them out. They are generally from the 1982-1991 tours (UK and US) and are also too small for me now. They are all larges prolly, and would fit someone in the 150-165 lb. range. Does anybody want them? I'd offer them for a simple trade of something interesting, musically speaking. Like a CDR or something. What would be great is a CDR of the Quark album actually. I have an original Virgin CD but it's getting eaten by CD rot or something. Lotsa noise. I'm sure I had a Griffin version at one time, but I must have sold it already as I can't find it now. I must have thought I didn't need two of the same album. Wrong! Anyway, first acceptable offer here gets the shirts, for what they're worth.
Finally....a question about iPods....
I would like to finally get one of these things that everyone else has, for my travelling. Ideally, I would have it soon and loaded up with music before I fly to Germany. In this case, I would be buying it in the US, designed for charging with 120V/60Hz power. Is that going to be a problem? Can I simply buy a new charger in Germany that would be for 110V/50Hz? How much would that cost me separately? Is there any other issue here? The batteries are the same, right? (Or can you buy a "European" model in the US?)
Thanks...Keith
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 19 14:28:40 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:28:40 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.182840.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 05:06:34PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
>
> Why this list was started? To let people find out ??? :-)
It was started because I wasn't having much luck getting
discussions started about BOC or Hawkwind on alt.rock-n-roll
or alt.rock-n-roll.metal, most people were too interested in
having pissing contests over which bands were poseurs.
Yes and don't we just hate all poseurs and wannabees to Hawkwind on BOC-L :-)
So I
decided to start a list where I could boot off anyone who
was being obnoxious. Fortunately, BOC and Hawkwind fans are
a cool bunch of people, and we seldom had a problem with
that. ;-)
Yes and I am the only person moderated on BOC-L it goes to show how (un)cool the black sheep Christian Mumford is (quoth in 3rd Person, take note students of Psychology!). I've been booted off the Yahoo! group for awhile... if a person isn't allowed to speak properly to himself he cannot even begin to express himself to others no?? If I said "Peter Hammill is a Nazi and I swear I am Hitler in Van Der Graaf Generator" or claim "Dave Brock is a Witch, Nik Turner is a Queen, and I hate Monster Magnet because Dave Wyndorf is Policing All The Stoners With His Big Mouth" then I have been kicked off as Off Topic A**hole,,,,,
> Thanks Steve! I must have had about 50 Hawkwind CDs when I
> joined BOC-L in 1996, it seemed like UK was the hippest
> country on the planet, I had just moved back to Europe
> from 3 years in USA,,, and BOC-L was GROOVY!!
BOC-L _is_ groovy. :)
Steve
As groovy as "Bittersweet Symphony" by THE VERVE??
Thats a fave of mine!
Christian
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From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Mar 19 19:01:22 2007
From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:01:22 +0000
Subject: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <200703191656.l2JGuPX0007497@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.230122.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I am pretty sure the Silver Machine version that I have on the Glastonbury
Fayre album with Bob's vocals is from the Roundhouse 1972, I think the dates
even on the 7" sibgle?, not Edmonton. The same gig that the Master of the
Universe and Born to Go came from released on Greasy Truckers.
>From: M Holmes <fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: bronze film footage
>Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:56:25 GMT
>
>Stephen Swann writes:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 04:07:47PM +0100, Filip Vanhuyse wrote:
> > > Well,the "Silver Machine" footage with Stacia blowing bubbles is from
>the
> > > Space Ritual.The Bronze footage is on the 2 video
> > > "concerts,festivals,private parties1979-1989/1979-1992" I think.
> >
> > Really? I fucking love that clip - but I thought it was
> > taped off Top of the Pops. Is that whole TOTP clip
> > artificially constructed then, or did TOTP show that footage
> > rather than have the band perform?
>
>The story as I heard it: The band refused to appear on ToTP and
>challenged the Beeb to come to a gig. The BBC sent the Outside
>Broadcast team to record the gig. Calculations on timing suggest that
>this was most likely the Dunstable Queensway gig on 7/7/72. The ToTP
>broadcast included video cuts from the gig being broadcast along with
>the sound from the Silver Machine single (itself an edit from the
>Edmonton Sundown gig - the original recording appeared on the
>Glastonbury Fayre triple-LP). The only other appearance from that gig
>that I know about was the broadcast of "Silver Machine" and "Brainstorm"
>in August of 1972 on the Brian Matthews Top of the Pops radio show. In
>both cases the live recording was broadcast. There would have been 24
>BBC Transcription discs made containing those two tracks (by BBC
>Radiophonic Workshop), but the local BBC stations were ordered to
>destroy these after the show. So far we've only heard of one survivor.
>
>What I don't know is whether the rumoured "Space Ritual" video without
>the sound is from that same gig. If it is, then we at least have the
>sound which can be matched to video for two tracks. However, given it's
>a BBC transcription disc they're on, there are undoubtedly some
>interesting copyright issues. No doubt the easiest thing to do would be to
>pretend the sound came from "someone's attic".
>
> > And, is the rest of the SR footage basically like that? And,
> > and, and... where do I send my check goddammitall???
>
>I've no doubt a whipround here would net some funds with which to tempt
>the holders of the footage ;-)
>
> > Is this going to be one of those situations like when Dave
> > was surprised that we all love his guitar playing and want to
> > hear more of it? Like, "Oh, you guys actually *want* that
> > old Space Ritual video? Who knew...?"
>
>Heh. I suspect the real issues are copyright. Then again, as a
>capitalist, I know that such questions can easily melt under the light
>of cold hard cash.
>
>FoFP
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From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Mar 19 19:06:46 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:06:46 +0000
Subject: HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <976383.45521.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.230646.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 19 Mar 2007, at 9:47 PM, Keith Henderson wrote:
> Finally....a question about iPods....
>
> I would like to finally get one of these things that everyone
> else has, for my travelling. Ideally, I would have it soon and
> loaded up with music before I fly to Germany. In this case, I
> would be buying it in the US, designed for charging with 120V/60Hz
> power. Is that going to be a problem? Can I simply buy a new
> charger in Germany that would be for 110V/50Hz? How much would
> that cost me separately? Is there any other issue here? The
> batteries are the same, right? (Or can you buy a "European" model
> in the US?)
If you are going to buy an actual iPod, you charge it via the USB
port of the computer on which you run iTunes (which is how you load
tunes onto the iPod). So, there is no charger issue.
As for batteries, the iPod uses a built-in rechargeable battery that
can't be user replaced. There is some minor controversy about
battery life and premature obsolescence with some people complaining
about too short a useful lifetime for their iPod. Most people seem
to love them, though.
I've noticed that modern portable electronic device AC adapters have
universal international power supplies that work across all voltage
ranges. My iBook G4 laptop, for example, has an AC adapter that is
100-240 V, 50-60 Hz. I guess that's so business travellers can use
their laptops anywhere in the world, and all they need to worry about
is having an appropriate universal plug adapter so they can plug the
thing into a wall socket to recharge the battery. (My external hard
drive AC adapter is like that, too, letting you use the HD anywhere
in the world.)
Of course, by "iPod" you could have meant a generic high-capacity
portable music player. There are lots of those about. For example,
I hear the ones by Creative are well recommended.
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Mon Mar 19 19:22:15 2007
From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:22:15 -0600
Subject: HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <976383.45521.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.172215.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi Keith--
Regarding iPods:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=47FFCC51&nplm=M8794G%2FB
<http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=47FFCC51&nplm=M8794G%2FB>
Looks like you can take it pretty much anywhere (well, maybe not some
third or fourth world places, where you might be stuck using a kerosene
powered record player :-) ), and not worry about charging. BTW,
www.apple.com is a great site for iPod users, Mac users, etc.
Guido
Keith Henderson wrote:
> Finally....a question about iPods....
>
> I would like to finally get one of these things that everyone else has, for my travelling. Ideally, I would have it soon and loaded up with music before I fly to Germany. In this case, I would be buying it in the US, designed for charging with 120V/60Hz power. Is that going to be a problem? Can I simply buy a new charger in Germany that would be for 110V/50Hz? How much would that cost me separately? Is there any other issue here? The batteries are the same, right? (Or can you buy a "European" model in the US?)
>
> Thanks...Keith
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love
> (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
>
From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Mon Mar 19 19:24:06 2007
From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:24:06 -0700
Subject: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <E484581A-70D5-40E0-9871-94343E42540A@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.162406.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Paul wrote...
Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> wrote: >If you are going to buy an actual iPod, you charge it via the USB
>port of the computer on which you run iTunes (which is how you load
>tunes onto the iPod). So, there is no charger issue.
Well, that's interesting. Tells you how much I know. Do all brands work this way? That would sure make things a lot more simple in one sense (worldwide universal), although I don't own a ("modern") computer let alone one that I would carry around in a backpack, so is that the *only* way they can be charged?
>Of course, by "iPod" you could have meant a generic high-capacity
portable music player. There are lots of those about. For example,
I hear the ones by Creative are well recommended.
Yeah, I was using the term in a "generic" sense, which probably pisses off Apple, as I know that trademarks can become invalid if terms become accepted as generic.
Anyway, my interest in buying one would be entirely to load up music that I own myself (or is freely available online)...I have no interest in purchasing music files online. So to me it will be entirely a portable device - I don't want to buy music via Apple. So how might that change what brand I would prefer?
I'll look into Creative anyway.
Thanks...feel free to take offline is you think this is too much offtopic here.
Grakkl
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From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Mon Mar 19 20:09:21 2007
From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:09:21 -0600
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <459309.84086.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.180921.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi Keith--
Get an iPod. There are reasons why they're selling better than
Creative players. And the way Creative is going these days . . . ever
hear of Rio? :-) I was thinking of buying a Rio Karma a few years ago.
I'm very glad I didn't.
BTW, you don't need to buy music from Apple. You can use iTunes to
rip all your CDs, and very effectively (and pleasantly) manage your
music library. I suspect you'd like iTunes far better than whatever
software package comes with Creative players.
Guido
Keith Henderson wrote:
> Paul wrote...
>
> Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> wrote: >If you are going to buy an actual iPod, you charge it via the USB
>
>> port of the computer on which you run iTunes (which is how you load
>> tunes onto the iPod). So, there is no charger issue.
>>
>
> Well, that's interesting. Tells you how much I know. Do all brands work this way? That would sure make things a lot more simple in one sense (worldwide universal), although I don't own a ("modern") computer let alone one that I would carry around in a backpack, so is that the *only* way they can be charged?
>
>
>> Of course, by "iPod" you could have meant a generic high-capacity
>>
> portable music player. There are lots of those about. For example,
> I hear the ones by Creative are well recommended.
>
> Yeah, I was using the term in a "generic" sense, which probably pisses off Apple, as I know that trademarks can become invalid if terms become accepted as generic.
>
> Anyway, my interest in buying one would be entirely to load up music that I own myself (or is freely available online)...I have no interest in purchasing music files online. So to me it will be entirely a portable device - I don't want to buy music via Apple. So how might that change what brand I would prefer?
>
> I'll look into Creative anyway.
>
> Thanks...feel free to take offline is you think this is too much offtopic here.
>
> Grakkl
>
>
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From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Mar 19 20:33:07 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:33:07 +0000
Subject: HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <45FF1B27.1090202@spiralrealm.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.003307.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 19 Mar 2007, at 11:22 PM, Guido Vacano wrote:
> Hi Keith--
>
> Regarding iPods:
>
> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/
> RSLID?mco=47FFCC51&nplm=M8794G%2FB <http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-
> APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=47FFCC51&nplm=M8794G%2FB>
Save your $39 and buy one of those universal plugs you can buy at any
airport or travel department instead. It's much cheaper and much
more compact, plus you get the advantage of longer cable length.
(You can also save money by simply cutting off the old plug and
wiring on one of the country in which you'll be resident. I replaced
some USA plugs with British three-prong plugs, but that may not work
for all regions of the world [e.g., places that tend to use only
moulded plugs]. Alternatively, many AC adapters can be modified
simply by replacing the cable that runs from the wall outlet to the
AC adapter with a similar one of the proper nationality. I
transformed my external HD AC adapter in this way, just by swapping
the US power cable side with a British one.)
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Mar 19 21:00:56 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:00:56 +0000
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <45FF2631.3070208@spiralrealm.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.010056.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 20 Mar 2007, at 12:09 AM, Guido Vacano wrote:
> Hi Keith--
>
> Get an iPod. There are reasons why they're selling better than
> Creative players. And the way Creative is going these days . . .
> ever hear of Rio? :-) I was thinking of buying a Rio Karma a few
> years ago. I'm very glad I didn't.
Just a disclaimer: I don't own an iPod or any kind of portable music
player (unless you count my laptop as a portable music player:). I
mentioned Creative because their devices like the Creative Nomad hard
drive recorder were active in the taping scene and gained respect
before laptop recording became de rigeur. Also, on another list I'm
on, which has an active taper contingent, Creative devices like the
Zen are well-respected. I've also heard those devices are more
likely to support more different file formats; I believe some
Creative models even support FLAC natively. With the iPod, unless
you replace its firmware, you're stuck with Apple's limited audio
format support.
I believe iPods sell better than Creative players because they have
great styling and are very easy to use. But, style and ergonomics
aside, it's fair to say you'll get more bang for your buck by buying
a non-Apple "iPod."
> BTW, you don't need to buy music from Apple. You can use iTunes
> to rip all your CDs, and very effectively (and pleasantly) manage
> your music library. I suspect you'd like iTunes far better than
> whatever software package comes with Creative players.
Note, though that you're pretty much stuck with iTunes if you use an
iPod. I have an iBook and use iTunes as my music player and it works
(unsurprisingly) superbly well. My sister has an old Windows
computer and uses iTunes and it works terribly. (In fact, right now,
it doesn't work at all when it comes to importing CDs as anything
other than WAV.) So, given Keith, by his own admission, doesn't have
"the most modern computer," he may have issues running iTunes.
Because it's the way you interface with your iPod, he may have issues
there, too.
My brother can load music onto his Creative MuVo without the need for
any additional software: just a drag and drop of files from his hard
drive to the MuVo USB drive and then he can listen to it on the
MuVo. You can't do that with an iPod. (You can drag and drop the
files, but I don't think you can listen to it.) So the iPod is less
convenient for grabbing music on the run.
(His MuVo came with software; it's just that you don't NEED to use
it, unlike the iPod.)
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Mon Mar 19 23:09:24 2007
From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:09:24 -0600
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <505081AA-5CA6-40C2-A034-3C443A52A37B@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.210924.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Okay, I'm wrong, get a Creative player. I'll stick with the limited file
formats:
Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from
iTunes Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3 and
4), Apple Lossless, AIFF and WAV
Bummer, no Ogg Vorbis. BTW, iTunes works fine on Windows boxes, I know
firsthand. But Creative's a great choice -- until they o out of business.
Guido
Paul Mather wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2007, at 12:09 AM, Guido Vacano wrote:
>
>> Hi Keith--
>>
>> Get an iPod. There are reasons why they're selling better than
>> Creative players. And the way Creative is going these days . . . ever
>> hear of Rio? :-) I was thinking of buying a Rio Karma a few years
>> ago. I'm very glad I didn't.
>
> Just a disclaimer: I don't own an iPod or any kind of portable music
> player (unless you count my laptop as a portable music player:). I
> mentioned Creative because their devices like the Creative Nomad hard
> drive recorder were active in the taping scene and gained respect
> before laptop recording became de rigeur. Also, on another list I'm
> on, which has an active taper contingent, Creative devices like the
> Zen are well-respected. I've also heard those devices are more likely
> to support more different file formats; I believe some Creative models
> even support FLAC natively. With the iPod, unless you replace its
> firmware, you're stuck with Apple's limited audio format support.
>
> I believe iPods sell better than Creative players because they have
> great styling and are very easy to use. But, style and ergonomics
> aside, it's fair to say you'll get more bang for your buck by buying a
> non-Apple "iPod."
>
>> BTW, you don't need to buy music from Apple. You can use iTunes to
>> rip all your CDs, and very effectively (and pleasantly) manage your
>> music library. I suspect you'd like iTunes far better than whatever
>> software package comes with Creative players.
>
> Note, though that you're pretty much stuck with iTunes if you use an
> iPod. I have an iBook and use iTunes as my music player and it works
> (unsurprisingly) superbly well. My sister has an old Windows computer
> and uses iTunes and it works terribly. (In fact, right now, it
> doesn't work at all when it comes to importing CDs as anything other
> than WAV.) So, given Keith, by his own admission, doesn't have "the
> most modern computer," he may have issues running iTunes. Because
> it's the way you interface with your iPod, he may have issues there, too.
>
> My brother can load music onto his Creative MuVo without the need for
> any additional software: just a drag and drop of files from his hard
> drive to the MuVo USB drive and then he can listen to it on the MuVo.
> You can't do that with an iPod. (You can drag and drop the files, but
> I don't think you can listen to it.) So the iPod is less convenient
> for grabbing music on the run.
>
> (His MuVo came with software; it's just that you don't NEED to use it,
> unlike the iPod.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
> --- Frank Vincent Zappa
From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Mar 19 23:55:18 2007
From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:55:18 -0400
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <45FF2631.3070208@spiralrealm.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.235518.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Guido Vacano wrote:
> Hi Keith--
>
> Get an iPod. There are reasons why they're selling better than
> Creative players. And the way Creative is going these days . . . ever
> hear of Rio? :-) I was thinking of buying a Rio Karma a few years ago.
> I'm very glad I didn't.
One of my players is a Rio Karma. I haven't heard or seen anything that
can come close to
the sound quality yet.
From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Tue Mar 20 00:20:23 2007
From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:20:23 -0600
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <45FF5B26.6010806@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <MON.19.MAR.2007.222023.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I've heard from various sources that the Karma had great sound, but I
was scared off by the reports of hard drive failure. Maybe Rio would
still be around if they had picked the right hard drive? Dunno. I hope
yours keeps rockin'. :-)
Guido
Jerry G wrote:
> Guido Vacano wrote:
>> Hi Keith--
>>
>> Get an iPod. There are reasons why they're selling better than
>> Creative players. And the way Creative is going these days . . . ever
>> hear of Rio? :-) I was thinking of buying a Rio Karma a few years
>> ago. I'm very glad I didn't.
> One of my players is a Rio Karma. I haven't heard or seen anything
> that can come close to
> the sound quality yet.
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Mar 20 05:37:23 2007
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:37:23 +0000
Subject: Barney Bubbles - Mojo Classics Album Covers
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.093723.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Nice (3 page) article in the above magazine on Barney and includes the In
Search Of Space and Space Ritual covers, along with Ian Dury Do It Yourself.
Page 76 for you WH Smith browsers.
Steve
From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 06:11:36 2007
From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:11:36 +0000
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <45FF2631.3070208@spiralrealm.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.101136.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Just a personal comment,
I love my Creative Zen....
Windows Media player is the best tool for ripping and loading music onto
your MP3 that i have found.
the Creative software is surprisingly good. but find WMP even easier...
dont be a sheep, think about what you want to be able to do with your
MP3... Mine has radio & a microphone.....both of which i use a lot...
Iain
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Mar 20 06:37:15 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:37:15 +0000
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <45FF2631.3070208@spiralrealm.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.103715.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 20/03/2007 00:09, Guido Vacano wrote:
> Get an iPod. There are reasons why they're selling better than
> Creative players. And the way Creative is going these days . . . ever
> hear of Rio? :-) I was thinking of buying a Rio Karma a few years ago.
> I'm very glad I didn't.
I knew a guy who used to work for the well-regarded iRiver company
designed their players .... Now he works at Apple!
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Mar 20 06:53:05 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:53:05 +0000
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <505081AA-5CA6-40C2-A034-3C443A52A37B@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.105305.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 20/03/2007 01:00, Paul Mather wrote:
> Note, though that you're pretty much stuck with iTunes if you use an
> iPod. I have an iBook and use iTunes as my music player and it works
> (unsurprisingly) superbly well. My sister has an old Windows computer
> and uses iTunes and it works terribly. (In fact, right now, it doesn't
> work at all when it comes to importing CDs as anything other than WAV.)
> So, given Keith, by his own admission, doesn't have "the most modern
> computer," he may have issues running iTunes. Because it's the way you
> interface with your iPod, he may have issues there, too.
I'm given to understand that there are issues between Vista and
iTunes/iPods right now (actually, I'm given to understand there are
issues between Vista and almost _everything_), and Windows is pretty
easy to corrupt or otherwise bugger up with regards to non-Microsoft
apps like iTunes (especially apps made by competitors ;)
I can confirm iTunes works great on Macs, though -- I've been using it
ever since the SoundJam days without trouble or complaint. I've just
started a massive project of re-ripping all my CDs (the ones in the UK,
anyway) in lossless format to a big honking hard-drive using iTunes.
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Mar 20 07:54:14 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:54:14 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
In-Reply-To: <892589.28999.qm@web23006.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.115414.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 19/03/2007 18:28, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> "and I hate Monster Magnet because Dave Wyndorf is Policing All The Stoners With His Big Mouth"
Speaking of which, are MM even still going? They completely dropped off
the radar after Wyndorf's overdose about a year ago.
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From Tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Mar 20 08:05:25 2007
From: Tjackson at SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:05:25 -0400
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.080525.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>>> cea at CARLAZ.COM 3/20/2007 7:54 AM >>>
On 19/03/2007 18:28, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> "and I hate Monster Magnet because Dave Wyndorf is Policing All The
Stoners With His Big Mouth"
Speaking of which, are MM even still going? They completely dropped
off
the radar after Wyndorf's overdose about a year ago.
Not a peep out of Dave. I see that Ed's
working with another band, so I'd say
chances of any new MM stuff are slim
right now...
theo
From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 08:24:51 2007
From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:24:51 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind on BBC4!
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.122451.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I think this programme could possibly be worth watching ;-)
A bit strange there's no mention of Dave Brock though.
Dave
21:00 Fri 30th
BBC4
Originals: Hawkwind - Do Not Panic 0
The inside story of Hawkwind, one of Britain's wildest acid rock bands, who
emerged from the Ladbroke Grove underground at the end of the 60s trailing
the radicalism of the counter-culture in their wake, and have been a direct
influence on punk, metal, dance and rave. The film includes interviews with
some of the band's enduring legends, including bassist Lemmy, writer
Michael Moorcock, founder members Terry Ollis, Nik Turner and Mick
Slattery, and former managers Doug Smith and Jeff Dexter
Starring:
Duration: 60mins
From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 09:46:16 2007
From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:46:16 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind on BBC4!
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.2.20070316163400.0350c2d8@pop3.easynet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.134616.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Don't know if this is just plain lies, but
there was a statement from Nik Turner when he was on The Freak Zone a
few weeks ago, and i am para phrasing here, "that due to Dave wanting
some kind of artistic control over the program the BBC have cut him out
of the program"
As I said, i'm wanting to stir things up, by that is an good
approximation of what Nik said.
I hope its a great program, and that what Nik said is incorrect.
but this could be why Dave's name isn't on the blurb ?
maybe the band could comment ?
Iain
gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote on 20/03/2007, 12:24:
> I think this programme could possibly be worth watching ;-)
> A bit strange there's no mention of Dave Brock though.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> 21:00 Fri 30th
> BBC4
> Originals: Hawkwind - Do Not Panic 0
> The inside story of Hawkwind, one of Britain's wildest acid rock
> bands, who
> emerged from the Ladbroke Grove underground at the end of the 60s
> trailing
> the radicalism of the counter-culture in their wake, and have been a
> direct
> influence on punk, metal, dance and rave. The film includes interviews
> with
> some of the band's enduring legends, including bassist Lemmy, writer
> Michael Moorcock, founder members Terry Ollis, Nik Turner and Mick
> Slattery, and former managers Doug Smith and Jeff Dexter
>
> Starring:
> Duration: 60mins
>
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 09:54:14 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:54:14 +0000
Subject: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <459309.84086.qm@web33212.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.135414.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I have one of those rather cute Sony ones (it was the smooth curves that made me buy it!); it also can charge via the USB port as well as via mains.
Keith Henderson <khenders64 at YAHOO.COM> wrote: Paul wrote...
Paul Mather
wrote: >If you are going to buy an actual iPod, you charge it via the USB
>port of the computer on which you run iTunes (which is how you load
>tunes onto the iPod). So, there is no charger issue.
Well, that's interesting. Tells you how much I know. Do all brands work this way? That would sure make things a lot more simple in one sense (worldwide universal), although I don't own a ("modern") computer let alone one that I would carry around in a backpack, so is that the *only* way they can be charged?
>Of course, by "iPod" you could have meant a generic high-capacity
portable music player. There are lots of those about. For example,
I hear the ones by Creative are well recommended.
Yeah, I was using the term in a "generic" sense, which probably pisses off Apple, as I know that trademarks can become invalid if terms become accepted as generic.
Anyway, my interest in buying one would be entirely to load up music that I own myself (or is freely available online)...I have no interest in purchasing music files online. So to me it will be entirely a portable device - I don't want to buy music via Apple. So how might that change what brand I would prefer?
I'll look into Creative anyway.
Thanks...feel free to take offline is you think this is too much offtopic here.
Grakkl
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From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 09:59:34 2007
From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:59:34 +0000
Subject: OOPs i missed a couple of words out ,
that make it look like i am stirring it up .. I'm not Re:
Hawkwind on BBC4!
In-Reply-To: <45FFE5A8.5090408@aol.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.135934.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
OOOPPS,
just to clarify I am NOT trying to stir things up, just pass
information on what i heard on the radio..
I didn't check my grammer before sending this mail..
Iain Ferguson wrote on 20/03/2007, 13:46:
> Don't know if this is just plain lies, but
>
> there was a statement from Nik Turner when he was on The Freak Zone a
> few weeks ago, and i am para phrasing here, "that due to Dave wanting
> some kind of artistic control over the program the BBC have cut him out
> of the program"
>
> As I said, i'm wanting to stir things up, by that is an good
> approximation of what Nik said.
>
> I hope its a great program, and that what Nik said is incorrect.
>
> but this could be why Dave's name isn't on the blurb ?
>
> maybe the band could comment ?
>
> Iain
>
>
> gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote on 20/03/2007, 12:24:
>
> > I think this programme could possibly be worth watching ;-)
> > A bit strange there's no mention of Dave Brock though.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > 21:00 Fri 30th
> > BBC4
> > Originals: Hawkwind - Do Not Panic 0
> > The inside story of Hawkwind, one of Britain's wildest acid rock
> > bands, who
> > emerged from the Ladbroke Grove underground at the end of the 60s
> > trailing
> > the radicalism of the counter-culture in their wake, and have been a
> > direct
> > influence on punk, metal, dance and rave. The film includes interviews
> > with
> > some of the band's enduring legends, including bassist Lemmy, writer
> > Michael Moorcock, founder members Terry Ollis, Nik Turner and Mick
> > Slattery, and former managers Doug Smith and Jeff Dexter
> >
> > Starring:
> > Duration: 60mins
> >
>
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 20 10:11:39 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:11:39 GMT
Subject: OOPs i missed a couple of words out ,
that make it look like i am stirring it up .. I'm not Re:
Hawkwind on BBC4!
In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:59:34 +0000
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.141139.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Iain Ferguson writes:
> I didn't check my grammer before sending this mail..
Heh. How's her bowels these days?
FoFP
From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Mar 20 10:24:47 2007
From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:24:47 +0000
Subject: OOPs i missed a couple of words out ,
that make it look like i am stirring it up .. I'm not Re:
Hawkwind on BBC4!
In-Reply-To: <200703201411.l2KEBdVt027604@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.142447.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
hahahahahahah
i need a bloody spell checker, and a someone to check my type :-)
M Holmes wrote on 20/03/2007, 14:11:
> Iain Ferguson writes:
>
> > I didn't check my grammer before sending this mail..
>
>
> Heh. How's her bowels these days?
>
> FoFP
>
From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Mar 20 10:43:50 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:43:50 -0400
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
In-Reply-To: <45FFCB66.7080503@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.104350.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:54:14AM +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
> On 19/03/2007 18:28, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> >"and I hate Monster Magnet because Dave Wyndorf is Policing All The
> >Stoners With His Big Mouth"
>
> Speaking of which, are MM even still going? They completely dropped off
> the radar after Wyndorf's overdose about a year ago.
Did you ever pick up the remaster of Spine of God? BLANGA
BLANGA BLANGA!
Steve
From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 11:33:56 2007
From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:33:56 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind on BBC4!
In-Reply-To: <45FFE5A8.5090408@aol.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.153356.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Ha ha, shoulda known an hour-long programme on Hawkwind (finally!) had to
go astray somehow! Ah well, hopefully some good footage in it at least.
Dave
At 13:46 20/03/2007 +0000, you wrote:
>Don't know if this is just plain lies, but
>
>there was a statement from Nik Turner when he was on The Freak Zone a
>few weeks ago, and i am para phrasing here, "that due to Dave wanting
>some kind of artistic control over the program the BBC have cut him out
>of the program"
>
>As I said, i'm wanting to stir things up, by that is an good
>approximation of what Nik said.
>
>I hope its a great program, and that what Nik said is incorrect.
>
>but this could be why Dave's name isn't on the blurb ?
>
>maybe the band could comment ?
>
>Iain
>
>
>gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote on 20/03/2007, 12:24:
>
> > I think this programme could possibly be worth watching ;-)
> > A bit strange there's no mention of Dave Brock though.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > 21:00 Fri 30th
> > BBC4
> > Originals: Hawkwind - Do Not Panic 0
> > The inside story of Hawkwind, one of Britain's wildest acid rock
> > bands, who
> > emerged from the Ladbroke Grove underground at the end of the 60s
> > trailing
> > the radicalism of the counter-culture in their wake, and have been a
> > direct
> > influence on punk, metal, dance and rave. The film includes interviews
> > with
> > some of the band's enduring legends, including bassist Lemmy, writer
> > Michael Moorcock, founder members Terry Ollis, Nik Turner and Mick
> > Slattery, and former managers Doug Smith and Jeff Dexter
> >
> > Starring:
> > Duration: 60mins
> >
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Mar 20 11:59:49 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:59:49 +0000
Subject: Spine of God (not Re: Hawkwind bootlegs)
In-Reply-To: <20070320144350.GC613@plutonia.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.155949.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 20/03/2007 14:43, Stephen Swann wrote:
> Did you ever pick up the remaster of Spine of God? BLANGA
> BLANGA BLANGA!
This is the 2006 SPV release, yeah? Lamely, no, I haven't -- it's still
sitting in my Amazon.co.uk "saved for later" list! But, I kinda ought
to chuck it in with my BOC remasters -- it's enough to score me the free
shipping, so there's no excuse that way! :)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Mar 20 12:09:58 2007
From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:09:58 -0400
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <45FF6107.7050807@spiralrealm.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.120958.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Guido Vacano wrote:
> I've heard from various sources that the Karma had great sound, but I
> was scared off by the reports of hard drive failure. Maybe Rio would
> still be around if they had picked the right hard drive? Dunno. I hope
> yours keeps rockin'. :-)
The biggest problem was leaving them plugged in to the dock. The battery
would swell - causing
those hard drive problems. When the hard drive finally goes, I'll open
it up and put a new one
in.
From hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 12:14:08 2007
From: hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK (John-Paul Drinkall)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:14:08 -0400
Subject: film footage
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.121408.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
continuing on the film footage theme. it is said that on the 14th or 15th
september 1973 swedish television filmed the hawks at either mantorps or
gothenburg. although only "masters" was aired on swedish tv the whole gig
was supposed to have been filmed. according to all the places i have looked
there was only one swedish tv company at that time which was svt, if this is
true maybe this footage can be tracked down. is there anyone out there from
that part of the world that knows any more?
john-paul
From hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 12:16:28 2007
From: hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK (john-paul)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:16:28 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind on BBC4!
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.161628.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
some of this was filmed at magna ( apparently)
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Subject: Re: Hawkwind on BBC4!
> Ha ha, shoulda known an hour-long programme on Hawkwind (finally!) had to
> go astray somehow! Ah well, hopefully some good footage in it at least.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> At 13:46 20/03/2007 +0000, you wrote:
>>Don't know if this is just plain lies, but
>>
>>there was a statement from Nik Turner when he was on The Freak Zone a
>>few weeks ago, and i am para phrasing here, "that due to Dave wanting
>>some kind of artistic control over the program the BBC have cut him out
>>of the program"
>>
>>As I said, i'm wanting to stir things up, by that is an good
>>approximation of what Nik said.
>>
>>I hope its a great program, and that what Nik said is incorrect.
>>
>>but this could be why Dave's name isn't on the blurb ?
>>
>>maybe the band could comment ?
>>
>>Iain
>>
>>
>>gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote on 20/03/2007, 12:24:
>>
>> > I think this programme could possibly be worth watching ;-)
>> > A bit strange there's no mention of Dave Brock though.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 21:00 Fri 30th
>> > BBC4
>> > Originals: Hawkwind - Do Not Panic 0
>> > The inside story of Hawkwind, one of Britain's wildest acid rock
>> > bands, who
>> > emerged from the Ladbroke Grove underground at the end of the 60s
>> > trailing
>> > the radicalism of the counter-culture in their wake, and have been a
>> > direct
>> > influence on punk, metal, dance and rave. The film includes interviews
>> > with
>> > some of the band's enduring legends, including bassist Lemmy, writer
>> > Michael Moorcock, founder members Terry Ollis, Nik Turner and Mick
>> > Slattery, and former managers Doug Smith and Jeff Dexter
>> >
>> > Starring:
>> > Duration: 60mins
>> >
>
From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Mar 20 12:21:26 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:21:26 -0400
Subject: Spine of God (not Re: Hawkwind bootlegs)
In-Reply-To: <460004F5.7000509@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.122126.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 03:59:49PM +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
> On 20/03/2007 14:43, Stephen Swann wrote:
> >Did you ever pick up the remaster of Spine of God? BLANGA
> >BLANGA BLANGA!
>
>
> This is the 2006 SPV release, yeah? Lamely, no, I haven't -- it's still
> sitting in my Amazon.co.uk "saved for later" list! But, I kinda ought
> to chuck it in with my BOC remasters -- it's enough to score me the free
> shipping, so there's no excuse that way! :)
Yes that is the one. Carl, you have no idea how much you're
going to love hearing it. Spine of God has always been an
awesome album strapped by lousy sonic presentation, now
it's just an awesome album, period.
And the BOC remasters, well, you just gotta. :)
Steve
From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Mar 20 12:47:25 2007
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:47:25 +0000
Subject: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <70585.78546.qm@web23214.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.164725.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
One interesting point that I have had is that MP3's in my experience put a 2
second gap in between tracks (do they still do this?). This can be VERY
annoying when listening to live stuff of medleys (Try Space Ritual with 2
second gaps between each track or the second side of the beatles Abbey
Road).
Sony Atrac system whilst also sounding better than mp3's (IMO) is continuous
so if you are using your own CD's as master then this may be a consideration
in your purchase.
My daughter bought one of the 4 gig Sony's that has built in noise
cancelling headphone technology - another plus if on a train.
Steve
On 3/20/07, Colin Allen <colinjallen at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I have one of those rather cute Sony ones (it was the smooth curves that
> made me buy it!); it also can charge via the USB port as well as via mains.
>
> Keith Henderson <khenders64 at YAHOO.COM> wrote: Paul wrote...
>
> Paul Mather
> wrote: >If you are going to buy an actual iPod, you charge it via the USB
> >port of the computer on which you run iTunes (which is how you load
> >tunes onto the iPod). So, there is no charger issue.
>
> Well, that's interesting. Tells you how much I know. Do all brands work
> this way? That would sure make things a lot more simple in one sense
> (worldwide universal), although I don't own a ("modern") computer let alone
> one that I would carry around in a backpack, so is that the *only* way they
> can be charged?
>
> >Of course, by "iPod" you could have meant a generic high-capacity
> portable music player. There are lots of those about. For example,
> I hear the ones by Creative are well recommended.
>
> Yeah, I was using the term in a "generic" sense, which probably pisses off
> Apple, as I know that trademarks can become invalid if terms become accepted
> as generic.
>
> Anyway, my interest in buying one would be entirely to load up music that
> I own myself (or is freely available online)...I have no interest in
> purchasing music files online. So to me it will be entirely a portable
> device - I don't want to buy music via Apple. So how might that change what
> brand I would prefer?
>
> I'll look into Creative anyway.
>
> Thanks...feel free to take offline is you think this is too much offtopic
> here.
>
> Grakkl
>
>
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From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Mar 20 13:35:27 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:35:27 +0000
Subject: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <d63946010703200947j2eba7801x16694bdd78ef5776@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.173527.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 20/03/2007 16:47, Steve Freight wrote:
> One interesting point that I have had is that MP3's in my experience put
> a 2
> second gap in between tracks (do they still do this?). This can be VERY
> annoying when listening to live stuff of medleys (Try Space Ritual with 2
> second gaps between each track or the second side of the beatles Abbey
> Road).
I _think_ this is a limitation of the MP3 codec, I believe. You can get
around this by using software that will rip multiple CD tracks to a
single file and turning that into an MP3 (or extracting the tracks as
WAV files and then gluing them together as a single WAV file in an audio
editor), or by not using MP3s and using a audio file format that
supports "gapless" playback.
iTunes for example, will let you designate contiguous CD tracks to be
ripped as a single file, and more recent versions allow you to designate
tracks/albums as "gapless", specifically to avoid this problem (this
works with MP4 files, like AAC and Apple Lossless). See
<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304362>; Steve Jobs used
the Beatles and Floyd as examples of exactly why he wanted a solution
for this. :) Even so, I've read claims that there is actually an
_extremely_ tiny gap with Apple's "gapless" system, but I'm not sure if
this is real as, if it exists, it seems well too short for detection by
most human ears.
You may be able to get some form gapless playback with oggs or FLAC
files, too, though these aren't supported for playback in iTunes, so I
haven't tried it. I never really liked MP3s, though they were a good
first step for online audio in some ways, and this is one of the reasons
why.
Cheers,
Carl
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From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Mar 20 13:39:46 2007
From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:39:46 +0000
Subject: SLOTERDIJK gig listings with printable flyers..please help get
the word out!!
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.173946.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Greetings friends,
I encourage you to check out FREEMUSICIANLIST.COM. You can make a band page
and liat your gigs etc. One of the best features is the template for gig
flyers. If you are in the NY/NJ area plaeas print a flyer and post it
somewhere that you think might make a difference. We really need street team
support for these shows, especially the one at 'Mexicali Blues'..If we do
well on April 12th, you could soon see mere spacerock shows at this
venue..Check out
http://www.freemusicianlist.com/BandDetails.asp?PBandName=SLOTERDIJK
Peace, Mike Burro ( SLOTERDIJK )
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 12:12:11 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:12:11 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.161211.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Its not actually a remaster per se, just new artwork ("upgraded") and an extra track...... Monster Magnet were a good band at the time, sort of a 90s classic of the genre along with Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger....
christian
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 11:54:14AM +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
> On 19/03/2007 18:28, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> >"and I hate Monster Magnet because Dave Wyndorf is Policing All The
> >Stoners With His Big Mouth"
>
> Speaking of which, are MM even still going? They completely dropped off
> the radar after Wyndorf's overdose about a year ago.
Did you ever pick up the remaster of Spine of God? BLANGA
BLANGA BLANGA!
Steve
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From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Mar 20 15:23:18 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:23:18 +0000
Subject: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <46001B5F.4080106@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.192318.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 20 Mar 2007, at 5:35 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
> You may be able to get some form gapless playback with oggs or FLAC
> files, too, though these aren't supported for playback in iTunes,
> so I haven't tried it.
You can play Vorbis files in iTunes via the Xiph QuickTime
Component. I know I had some albums in .ogg format from when I used
Amarok under FreeBSD that I play unconverted in iTunes that way. (It
isn't fully supported in iTunes. For example, you can't attach album
artwork, but the audio works fine.)
Unfortunately, you can't play them on an iPod, unless you've replaced
its firmware with, say, Rockbox.
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Mar 20 15:27:35 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:27:35 -0400
Subject: Hawkwind bootlegs
In-Reply-To: <159335.24477.qm@web23009.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.152735.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 04:12:11PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> Its not actually a remaster per se, just new artwork
> ("upgraded") and an extra track...... Monster Magnet were
> a good band at the time, sort of a 90s classic of the
> genre along with Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger....
That's incorrect, Christian. I have Spine of God both on
original CD and vinyl, and it sounded thin and tinny on both
of them. The new CD has tremendous sonic punch. It is
without question remastered.
Steve
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 15:52:27 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:52:27 +0000
Subject: Spine Of God remaster
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.195227.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 04:12:11PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> Its not actually a remaster per se, just new artwork
> ("upgraded") and an extra track...... Monster Magnet were
> a good band at the time, sort of a 90s classic of the
> genre along with Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger....
That's incorrect, Christian. I have Spine of God both on
original CD and vinyl, and it sounded thin and tinny on both
of them. The new CD has tremendous sonic punch. It is
without question remastered.
Steve
I don't have my original of SPINE OF GOD anymore so I cannot compare. I was sure I read some sort of press release that it wasn't a "remaster" per se, just an "upgraded repackaging", but I may be wrong... or it seems I AM COMPLETELY wrong altogether!! I bow my head in humble Salute!!!
On the topic of heavy pothead induced rawk, how is the new FU MANCHU CD? I have seen it with two different covers. And I will catch FU MANCHU on tour with VALIANT THORR in May in Oslo...... hopefully! VT had a really cool full page ad in "NATT & DAG", looks like members of BLACK DEBBATH/THULSA DOOM etc.
Christian
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From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Mar 20 17:08:57 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:08:57 +0000
Subject: HW: Life on Mars
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.210857.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Life on Mars just started and kicked off with Hawkwind's "You
Shouldn't Do That" from _In Search of Space_. All that after a
Camberwick Green spoof!
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From Tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Mar 20 17:23:18 2007
From: Tjackson at SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:23:18 -0400
Subject: Spine Of God remaster
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.172318.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On the topic of heavy pothead induced rawk, how is the new FU MANCHU
CD? I have seen it with two different covers. And I will catch FU MANCHU
on tour with VALIANT THORR in May in Oslo...... hopefully! VT had a
really cool full page ad in "NATT & DAG", looks like members of BLACK
DEBBATH/THULSA DOOM etc.
Haven't heard the new one, but if it's anything like the one CD I have
[can't remember the name, but it's got a car on the cover] it's
decent stoner metal. Lyrics weren't anything to get excited
over, musicianship is competent. If you like Monster Magnet
Light, then it'll do just fine for ya...
theo
From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Mar 20 17:28:37 2007
From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:28:37 -0400
Subject: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <d63946010703200947j2eba7801x16694bdd78ef5776@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.172837.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Steve Freight wrote:
> One interesting point that I have had is that MP3's in my experience
> put a 2
> second gap in between tracks (do they still do this?). This can be VERY
> annoying when listening to live stuff of medleys (Try Space Ritual with 2
> second gaps between each track or the second side of the beatles Abbey
> Road).
>
The Rio Karma had gapless playback. I thought I read that the newest
iPods now have
it (maybe 5th gen with firmware update).
J
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 17:36:05 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:36:05 +0000
Subject: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: <d63946010703200947j2eba7801x16694bdd78ef5776@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.213605.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
That is a good point about the ATRAC system; live recordings do tend to work better without unwanted gaps!
I also agree on ATRAC sounding better than MP3.
Steve Freight <stevefreight at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
One interesting point that I have had is that MP3's in my experience put a 2
second gap in between tracks (do they still do this?). This can be VERY
annoying when listening to live stuff of medleys (Try Space Ritual with 2
second gaps between each track or the second side of the beatles Abbey
Road).
Sony Atrac system whilst also sounding better than mp3's (IMO) is continuous
so if you are using your own CD's as master then this may be a consideration
in your purchase.
My daughter bought one of the 4 gig Sony's that has built in noise
cancelling headphone technology - another plus if on a train.
Steve
On 3/20/07, Colin Allen wrote:
>
> I have one of those rather cute Sony ones (it was the smooth curves that
> made me buy it!); it also can charge via the USB port as well as via mains.
>
> Keith Henderson wrote: Paul wrote...
>
> Paul Mather
> wrote: >If you are going to buy an actual iPod, you charge it via the USB
> >port of the computer on which you run iTunes (which is how you load
> >tunes onto the iPod). So, there is no charger issue.
>
> Well, that's interesting. Tells you how much I know. Do all brands work
> this way? That would sure make things a lot more simple in one sense
> (worldwide universal), although I don't own a ("modern") computer let alone
> one that I would carry around in a backpack, so is that the *only* way they
> can be charged?
>
> >Of course, by "iPod" you could have meant a generic high-capacity
> portable music player. There are lots of those about. For example,
> I hear the ones by Creative are well recommended.
>
> Yeah, I was using the term in a "generic" sense, which probably pisses off
> Apple, as I know that trademarks can become invalid if terms become accepted
> as generic.
>
> Anyway, my interest in buying one would be entirely to load up music that
> I own myself (or is freely available online)...I have no interest in
> purchasing music files online. So to me it will be entirely a portable
> device - I don't want to buy music via Apple. So how might that change what
> brand I would prefer?
>
> I'll look into Creative anyway.
>
> Thanks...feel free to take offline is you think this is too much offtopic
> here.
>
> Grakkl
>
>
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From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Mar 20 18:01:03 2007
From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:01:03 +0000
Subject: HW: Life on Mars
In-Reply-To: <E67DFBBF-F612-40AD-89CA-0824EDFF1804@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.220103.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Great Episode!!!
On 3/20/07, Paul Mather <paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu> wrote:
>
> Life on Mars just started and kicked off with Hawkwind's "You
> Shouldn't Do That" from _In Search of Space_. All that after a
> Camberwick Green spoof!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
> --- Frank Vincent Zappa
>
From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Wed Mar 21 09:56:51 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:56:51 -0400
Subject: Spine Of God remaster
In-Reply-To: <320931.71991.qm@web23012.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <WED.21.MAR.2007.095651.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 07:52:27PM +0000, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> On the topic of heavy pothead induced rawk, how is the
> new FU MANCHU CD?
I have to admit to having an entirely unfair bias against Fu
Manchu that has kept me from giving them a fair shake.
Basically, years ago, some dumbass reviewer on
Stonerrock.com savaged one of my favorite bands (Ridge) by
tagging them as a cheap Fu Manchu ripoff, thus leading
pretty much directly to the demise of Ridge. With a
relatively tiny anticipated fan base to begin with (the
Meteor City / Black Lodge / Stonerrock.com folks) all
reading the same review, it completely tanked their sales,
so they just gave up and broke up the band. One of these
days I should just get over it and give Fu Manchu another
chance, since they actually had nothing to do with it. :)
Steve
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Mar 20 17:41:33 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:41:33 +0000
Subject: Spine Of God remaster
Message-ID: <TUE.20.MAR.2007.214133.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Haven't heard the new one, but if it's anything like the one CD I have
[can't remember the name, but it's got a car on the cover] it's
decent stoner metal. Lyrics weren't anything to get excited
over, musicianship is competent. If you like Monster Magnet
Light, then it'll do just fine for ya...
theo
Well Theo, I have about 5 different Fu Manchu CDs/relases, and I saw them live in 1997 with Spiritual Beggars and so on, so I know what they sound like in general, they vary in quality from release to release really, I was just wondering if anyone has heard the newest CD... I just needed an expert opinion!
In fact, I rather like Fu Manchu better than Monster Magnet, well MM after 1995 isn't my cuppa tea, even though I have been bewildered to exclaim otherwise and suffered a demise worse than reverse Siddha Yogin Karma, because of it... I once in an article in a Norwegian paper, reviewing "Powertrip", claimed "Monster Magnet are the best band of the 90s" which is pretty crazy, I don't think MM are particularly genius and wish I hadn't made that incriminating claim... its like saying "Duran Duran are the best band of the 80s" - Sign of the times maybe.... but not gifted above the common ilk of the day.... "so I scream as loud as I can and run like hell!! I'm not here, man.... I'm gone......!!!"
Christian
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From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Mar 21 10:47:50 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:47:50 GMT
Subject: OFF: Re: was HW: Vinyl, t-shirts, etc. now "iPods"
In-Reply-To: Jerry G's message of Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:09:58 -0400
Message-ID: <WED.21.MAR.2007.144750.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Jerry G writes:
> Guido Vacano wrote:
> > I've heard from various sources that the Karma had great sound, but I
> > was scared off by the reports of hard drive failure. Maybe Rio would
> > still be around if they had picked the right hard drive? Dunno. I hope
> > yours keeps rockin'. :-)
> The biggest problem was leaving them plugged in to the dock. The battery
> would swell - causing
> those hard drive problems. When the hard drive finally goes, I'll open
> it up and put a new one
> in.
My Archos has actually been pretty good for recording, playing movies
etc
It's a bit bulky for carrying while listening to music tho...
FoFP
From drakrats at AOL.COM Wed Mar 21 11:14:53 2007
From: drakrats at AOL.COM (Mark Darkstar)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:14:53 -0400
Subject: Spine Of God remaster
Message-ID: <WED.21.MAR.2007.111453.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
"Duran Duran are the best band of the 80s"
Now you're talking.....maybe even the 90's too.
Forget Fu Manchu....the films weren't up to much anyway....and bring back
videos with yachts in tropical waters....sweeet.
'drakrats'
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Mar 21 11:41:07 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:41:07 +0000
Subject: Spine Of God remaster
In-Reply-To: <20070321135651.GB1275@plutonia.com>
Message-ID: <WED.21.MAR.2007.154107.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 21/03/2007 13:56, Stephen Swann wrote:
> One of these
> days I should just get over it and give Fu Manchu another
> chance, since they actually had nothing to do with it. :)
I have a bunch of their earlier, up to the mid/late 90s, albums and
there's some good stuff on there. Saw them live in the US supporting
Monster Magnet just after the latter's _Dopes to Infinity_ came out
(Scott will remember that -- he did an interview with the then MM
bassist, I believe) and a couple of times thereafter in the UK.
They then turned in an album or so that I thought were a bit weak, and I
kinda lost track of them. For all I know, they've since returned to
being an all-powerful force of sludge (as they were :) but I don't know!
Cheers,
Carl
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From drakrats at AOL.COM Wed Mar 21 13:51:56 2007
From: drakrats at AOL.COM (Mark Darkstar)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:51:56 -0400
Subject: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
Message-ID: <WED.21.MAR.2007.135156.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I was just wondering if anybody besides myself was going to the Litmus, Omnia
Opera, Lloyd Langton Gig in Hitchin on the 31st of this month.
Mark
From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Mar 21 16:58:09 2007
From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:58:09 -0000
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <WED.21.MAR.2007.205809.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
Human On The Outside......
Something to add to my birthday wish list 8-)
jill
==============================================
Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk>
==============================================
From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Thu Mar 22 03:47:06 2007
From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:47:06 +1100
Subject: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <THU.22.MAR.2007.184706.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Has anyone heard it yet? Need a review as soon as possible, please.
Thanks
Allan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill Strobridge" <jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:58 AM
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
> The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
> and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
> Human On The Outside......
>
>
> Something to add to my birthday wish list 8-)
> jill
>
> ==============================================
> Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk>
> ==============================================
>
From daveb10000 at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Mar 22 11:38:04 2007
From: daveb10000 at NTLWORLD.COM (Dave Bottomley)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:38:04 -0000
Subject: HW: Tim's liberty
Message-ID: <THU.22.MAR.2007.153804.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi folks
Don't know if I'm a bit behind the times with this, but I've just discovered
that Tim Blake has a MySpace page:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile
<http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=1
00321165> &friendid=100321165
For those interested in his ongoing hassles with the authorities, I quote
the following from his blog:
"It looks as if Tim's Legal Difficulties have been resolved in a compromise
that does not include imprisonement. However, he is to be consigned to
'House Arrest" for a period of 4 months and a half, starting in april. As a
result, all touring and festival plans seem to be compromised, and
travelling outside of France is totally out of the question untill
September. WE WOULD BE MORE THAN INTERESTED IN RECEIVING WORK ENQUIRIES FROM
SEPTEMBER ONWARDS."
This is news to me & clearly a much better outcome than many were fearing.
So I guess we should be grateful for that. But I fail to understand what
this "compromise" achieves. And it still implies some degree of guilt on
Tim's part which, as far as I understand the details of the case at least,
is highly questionnable (and that's putting it mildly).
Of course, it also totally scuppers his chances of appearing at Hawkfest.
Still, I thought many of you would like to know (if you don't already).
Cheers
Dave
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Mar 22 12:32:54 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:32:54 +0000
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
In-Reply-To: <01a701c76bfb$a1e2d7f0$6501a8c0@jillspc>
Message-ID: <THU.22.MAR.2007.163254.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 21/03/2007 20:58, Jill Strobridge wrote:
> The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
> and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
> Human On The Outside......
That is good news. I remember seeing a flyer about this on the last
tour, but of course when I went to the URL it wasn't up! Cool to see it
there now (if still a bit low on info).
Cheers,
Carl
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From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 17:07:51 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:07:51 +0000
Subject: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200703211351560196.01D4@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Message-ID: <THU.22.MAR.2007.210751.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Not me! I wouldn't go anywhere near that bunch of reprobates!
:)) :))
Mark Darkstar <drakrats at AOL.COM> wrote:
I was just wondering if anybody besides myself was going to the Litmus, Omnia
Opera, Lloyd Langton Gig in Hitchin on the 31st of this month.
Mark
From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 22 18:24:16 2007
From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:24:16 -0000
Subject: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
Message-ID: <THU.22.MAR.2007.222416.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Nor me Colin. Neither will I go to the May 11th Inner City Unit gig at the
Walthamstow Standard with those young reprobates Litmus supporting. You'll
not catch me rubbing shoulders such anti-social, and revolutionary
elements - independent thought indeed...
..And I'll stay away from all subsequent concerts involving THAT type of
social group, especially the outrageous events which are listed here:
http://www.judgetrev.com/forthcoming-gigs.html
Love and Kisses,
Judge Trev
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Allen" <colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
> Not me! I wouldn't go anywhere near that bunch of reprobates!
>
> :)) :))
>
> Mark Darkstar <drakrats at AOL.COM> wrote:
> I was just wondering if anybody besides myself was going to the Litmus,
> Omnia
> Opera, Lloyd Langton Gig in Hitchin on the 31st of this month.
>
> Mark
>
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 18:54:53 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:54:53 +0000
Subject: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
In-Reply-To: <BAY141-DAV416B77E97F9B0D3A2B518BA6B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.22.MAR.2007.225453.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Inner City Unit and Litmus? Dangerous radicals and anti-social elements, all of them! Probably best that neither of us go to that gig (at least, not without something with tripod masts in support)!
I just looked at that gig-list that you linked to; filth like that should be banned.
trev <judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
Nor me Colin. Neither will I go to the May 11th Inner City Unit gig at the
Walthamstow Standard with those young reprobates Litmus supporting. You'll
not catch me rubbing shoulders such anti-social, and revolutionary
elements - independent thought indeed...
..And I'll stay away from all subsequent concerts involving THAT type of
social group, especially the outrageous events which are listed here:
http://www.judgetrev.com/forthcoming-gigs.html
Love and Kisses,
Judge Trev
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Allen"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
> Not me! I wouldn't go anywhere near that bunch of reprobates!
>
> :)) :))
>
> Mark Darkstar wrote:
> I was just wondering if anybody besides myself was going to the Litmus,
> Omnia
> Opera, Lloyd Langton Gig in Hitchin on the 31st of this month.
>
> Mark
>
From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 22 19:53:31 2007
From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:53:31 -0000
Subject: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
Message-ID: <THU.22.MAR.2007.235331.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Allen" <colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
> Inner City Unit and Litmus? Dangerous radicals and anti-social elements,
> all of them! Probably best that neither of us go to that gig (at least,
> not without something with tripod masts in support)!
>
> I just looked at that gig-list that you linked to; filth like that should
> be banned.
>
> trev <judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Nor me Colin. Neither will I go to the May 11th Inner City Unit gig at
> the
> Walthamstow Standard with those young reprobates Litmus supporting. You'll
> not catch me rubbing shoulders such anti-social, and revolutionary
> elements - independent thought indeed...
>
> ..And I'll stay away from all subsequent concerts involving THAT type of
> social group, especially the outrageous events which are listed here:
> http://www.judgetrev.com/forthcoming-gigs.html
>
> Love and Kisses,
>
> Judge Trev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin Allen"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
>
>
>> Not me! I wouldn't go anywhere near that bunch of reprobates!
>>
>> :)) :))
>>
>> Mark Darkstar wrote:
>> I was just wondering if anybody besides myself was going to the Litmus,
>> Omnia
>> Opera, Lloyd Langton Gig in Hitchin on the 31st of this month.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 22 19:55:48 2007
From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev)
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:55:48 -0000
Subject: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
Message-ID: <THU.22.MAR.2007.235548.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hear Hear
Judge Trev
AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS TO
MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS
EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN
RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR
http://www.judgetrev.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin Allen" <colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
> Inner City Unit and Litmus? Dangerous radicals and anti-social elements,
> all of them! Probably best that neither of us go to that gig (at least,
> not without something with tripod masts in support)!
>
> I just looked at that gig-list that you linked to; filth like that should
> be banned.
>
> trev <judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Nor me Colin. Neither will I go to the May 11th Inner City Unit gig at
> the
> Walthamstow Standard with those young reprobates Litmus supporting. You'll
> not catch me rubbing shoulders such anti-social, and revolutionary
> elements - independent thought indeed...
>
> ..And I'll stay away from all subsequent concerts involving THAT type of
> social group, especially the outrageous events which are listed here:
> http://www.judgetrev.com/forthcoming-gigs.html
>
> Love and Kisses,
>
> Judge Trev
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin Allen"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: OFF : Litmus in Hitchin
>
>
>> Not me! I wouldn't go anywhere near that bunch of reprobates!
>>
>> :)) :))
>>
>> Mark Darkstar wrote:
>> I was just wondering if anybody besides myself was going to the Litmus,
>> Omnia
>> Opera, Lloyd Langton Gig in Hitchin on the 31st of this month.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Mar 22 20:57:07 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:57:07 +0000
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.005707.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well the shop part of the site is now open there... didn't know there were so many Bedoun releases... will be three weeks before I can break out my credit card again!
Christian
----- Original Message ----
From: Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Sent: Wednesday, 21 March, 2007 9:58:09 PM
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
Human On The Outside......
Something to add to my birthday wish list 8-)
jill
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From ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG Fri Mar 23 09:06:32 2007
From: ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG (Ian Jeffcock)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:06:32 +0800
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
In-Reply-To: <BOC-L%200703230500042898.0245@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.210632.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I do hope they ship to Singapore... I just ordered one anyway... Ian.
At 05:00 AM 3/23/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>Well the shop part of the site is now open there... didn't know there were
>so many Bedoun releases... will be three weeks before I can break out my
>credit card again!
>
>Christian
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Sent: Wednesday, 21 March, 2007 9:58:09 PM
>Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
>
>The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
>and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
>Human On The Outside......
>
>
>Something to add to my birthday wish list 8-)
>jill
>
>==============================================
>Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk>
>==============================================
From ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG Fri Mar 23 09:20:35 2007
From: ianjeffcock at PACIFIC.NET.SG (Ian Jeffcock)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:20:35 +0800
Subject: Fwd: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.212035.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Took me a little time to find the link at the bottom of the page to the old
Bedouin site.
Nice to see that site on-line again. Now if only ALIEN HEART CD was
available from
this site, I'd love to get hold of a copy of that one... Ian.
>Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:06:32 +0800
>To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>From: Ian Jeffcock <ianjeffcock at pacific.net.sg>
>Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
>
>I do hope they ship to Singapore... I just ordered one anyway... Ian.
>
>At 05:00 AM 3/23/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>>Well the shop part of the site is now open there... didn't know there
>>were so many Bedoun releases... will be three weeks before I can break
>>out my credit card again!
>>
>>Christian
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>>Sent: Wednesday, 21 March, 2007 9:58:09 PM
>>Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
>>
>>The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
>>and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
>>Human On The Outside......
>>
>>
>>Something to add to my birthday wish list 8-)
>>jill
>>
>>==============================================
>>Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk>
>>==============================================
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Mar 23 10:06:25 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:06:25 +0000
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
In-Reply-To: <987557.58307.qm@web23004.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.140625.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 23/03/2007 00:57, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> Well the shop part of the site is now open there...
So it is! Just viewing my printable receipt now ....
> didn't know there were so many Bedoun releases...
I still have something of a soft spot _Captured Rotation_ (particularly
"The Call", "Ancient Light", "Pre-Med"), though I liked Alan's vocals on
the live Bedouin versions better than Ron Tree's vocals on the studio
albums -- and, indeed, the live Bedouin versions were pretty awesome.
But I won't start another argument with Mr. Jarrett about whether there
can be archaeopteryx movement in clouds or not ;) :)
Cheers,
Carl
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From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Fri Mar 23 10:17:34 2007
From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:17:34 +0100
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.151734.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Woeha,the three week credit card break again.
Folks,don't listen to this guy,he's a fraud and a liar
Filip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
> Well the shop part of the site is now open there... didn't know there were
> so many Bedoun releases... will be three weeks before I can break out my
> credit card again!
>
> Christian
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March, 2007 9:58:09 PM
> Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
>
> The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
> and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
> Human On The Outside......
>
>
> Something to add to my birthday wish list 8-)
> jill
>
> ==============================================
> Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk>
> ==============================================
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 10:26:06 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:26:06 +0000
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.142606.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> didn't know there were so many Bedoun releases...
Carl wrote:
>>I still have something of a soft spot _Captured Rotation_ (particularly
"The Call", "Ancient Light", "Pre-Med"), though I liked Alan's vocals on
the live Bedouin versions better than Ron Tree's vocals on the studio
albums -- and, indeed, the live Bedouin versions were pretty awesome.
Those are also my 3 favorite tracks off Captured Rotation! Rousing stuff.....
Must be that Ron Tree got the vocals on the best songs......
Speaking of Tree, I've been listening to the Bajina disc alot recently and its really good, didn't like it much first time I heard it but now I've actually discovered there were actual *songs* on it, not just a bunch of industrial noises (though that stuff has its charm too...)
Christian
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 10:32:32 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:32:32 +0000
Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.143232.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Filip, I've had problems downpaying my credit card and have been suspended from ebay, you are not the only one not seeing his money from me on ebay, but I am not "a fraud" and i am not a "liar", so don't go spreading utter bullshit about me on this list, this is a private conflict between you and me and ebay, you don't get to see *any* money by squealing like pig on BOC-L......
Christian
Woeha,the three week credit card break again.
Folks,don't listen to this guy,he's a fraud and a liar
Filip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
> Well the shop part of the site is now open there... didn't know there were
> so many Bedoun releases... will be three weeks before I can break out my
> credit card again!
>
> Christian
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March, 2007 9:58:09 PM
> Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
>
> The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
> and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
> Human On The Outside......
>
>
> Something to add to my birthday wish list 8-)
> jill
>
> ==============================================
> Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at blueyonder.co.uk>
> ==============================================
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From ben at TMK.COM Fri Mar 23 11:38:21 2007
From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:38:21 -0400
Subject: ADMIN: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
In-Reply-To: <357687.91380.qm@web23007.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.113821.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Christian and Filip,
I've let Christian's last message go through, but I'd like this to be the last
this is discussed on-list about it. If there's a final resolution, one of you
can feel free to post, but, otherwise, please take any issues off-list.
You've both had your say. That's it for now.
YnSSHM,
Ben
From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Fri Mar 23 11:40:53 2007
From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:40:53 +0100
Subject: Fw: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.164053.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
----- Original Message -----
From: Amphetamine Embalmer
To: Filip Vanhuyse
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
feel lucky today? well you won't get lucky with me... fishing for nice comments? obviously not.....
----- Original Message ----
From: Filip Vanhuyse <Filip.Vanhuyse at pandora.be>
To: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, 23 March, 2007 4:17:25 PM
Subject: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Oh,isn't this a nice guy?
----- Original Message -----
From: Amphetamine Embalmer
To: Filip Vanhuyse
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
well 3 months in hell over this fucking business, so fuck you too, filip :-(
----- Original Message ----
From: Filip Vanhuyse <Filip.Vanhuyse at pandora.be>
To: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, 23 March, 2007 3:39:57 PM
Subject: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Well,after 3 months.....................
----- Original Message -----
From: Amphetamine Embalmer
To: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 3:34 PM
Subject: Fw: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Friday, 23 March, 2007 3:32:32 PM
Subject: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Filip, I've had problems downpaying my credit card and have been suspended from ebay, you are not the only one not seeing his money from me on ebay, but I am not "a fraud" and i am not a "liar", so don't go spreading utter bullshit about me on this list, this is a private conflict between you and me and ebay, you don't get to see *any* money by squealing like pig on BOC-L......
Christian
Woeha,the three week credit card break again.
Folks,don't listen to this guy,he's a fraud and a liar
Filip
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From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
> Well the shop part of the site is now open there... didn't know there were
> so many Bedoun releases... will be three weeks before I can break out my
> credit card again!
>
> Christian
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jill Strobridge <jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK>
> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March, 2007 9:58:09 PM
> Subject: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
>
> The GOOD news is that www.alandaveymusic.co.uk will be up shortly,
> and Alan has a CRACKING solo CD that just HAS to be heard called
> Human On The Outside......
>
>
> Something to add to my birthday wish list 8-)
> jill
>
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From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Fri Mar 23 11:46:03 2007
From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:46:03 +0100
Subject: ADMIN: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
Message-ID: <FRI.23.MAR.2007.164603.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sorry Ben if I was any trouble.
greetings filip
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Cohen" <ben at TMK.COM>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:38 PM
Subject: ADMIN: Re: HW: News from the Hawkwind camp!
> Christian and Filip,
>
> I've let Christian's last message go through, but I'd like this to be the
> last
> this is discussed on-list about it. If there's a final resolution, one of
> you
> can feel free to post, but, otherwise, please take any issues off-list.
>
> You've both had your say. That's it for now.
>
> YnSSHM,
> Ben
>
>
From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Mar 24 06:39:49 2007
From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:39:49 +0000
Subject: HW: HW on BBC4
In-Reply-To: <000801c76d56$00d1e840$0202a8c0@filip>
Message-ID: <SAT.24.MAR.2007.103949.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sadly no input from Dave :(
Hopefully there will be some good early footage and
maybe contact could be established with the programme
researchers to find the source!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=friday&filename=20070330/20070330_2100_4544_12424_60&service_id=4544
If the link doesn't work here's the text...
Hawkwind: Do Not Panic
Told for the first time, the inside story of Hawkwind,
one of Britain's wildest acid rock bands. They emerged
from the Ladbroke Grove underground at the end of the
1960s, trailing the radicalism of the counter-culture
in their wake, and have been a direct influence on
punk, metal, dance and rave - as well as pioneering
multimedia rock shows with their legendary Space
Ritual tour, and leading the free festival scene from
its birth to its apogee at the last Stonehenge in
1984.
Unruly, anarchic, and often at war with themselves,
Hawkwind are one of the last great outsider bands.
Although the testimony of guitarist and founder member
Dave Brock isn't present, the film includes interviews
with some of the band's enduring legends, including
bassist Lemmy, writer Michael Moorcock, founder
members Terry Ollis, Nik Turner and Mick Slattery,
former managers Doug Smith and Jeff Dexter, leading
rock critic Nick Kent and broadcaster and super-fan
Matthew Wright.
Mick
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 23 21:10:10 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:10:10 +0000
Subject: HW: Quarkspace/Church of Hed for trade
Message-ID: <SAT.24.MAR.2007.011010.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Got s bunch of these CDs from Paul Williams as royalties for the National Steam CD art (a CD sadly out of print.... a poor seller, must be because of my cover artwork!), will trade for similar space- bands, new and used etc.
I have:
Quarkspace & Matt Howarth - Node In Peril CD (1 left! With comic book and nice digipak)
Quarkspace Spacefolds 5 CD (no cover on this release)
Quarkspace Spacefolds 7 CD
Church of Hed CD
None are CDRs and all have artwork/printed CDs....
I would describe these discs as a croos between Clearlight, Hammill, Canterbury jamming, Pink Floyd "lite", Ozric Tentacles with piano of sorts...
Christian
NP: Tangle Edge, Bergen, 6/11/94
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From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Mar 24 08:17:22 2007
From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:17:22 +0000
Subject: HW: HW on BBC4
Message-ID: <SAT.24.MAR.2007.121722.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Why is this? Surely Dave must have been aware the programme was being made.
Did he not want to participate or was he left out intentionally? Either way
I can't wait but it will probably give another snapshot of more hidden
footage like the Top Ten programme did that isn't available. Maybe as it's
the BBC anything shown may be more accessible?
>From: Michael Crook <m.j.crook at TALK21.COM>
>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
>Subject: Re: HW: HW on BBC4
>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:39:49 +0000
>
>Sadly no input from Dave :(
>
>Hopefully there will be some good early footage and
>maybe contact could be established with the programme
>researchers to find the source!
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=friday&filename=20070330/20070330_2100_4544_12424_60&service_id=4544
>
>If the link doesn't work here's the text...
>
>Hawkwind: Do Not Panic
>Told for the first time, the inside story of Hawkwind,
>one of Britain's wildest acid rock bands. They emerged
>from the Ladbroke Grove underground at the end of the
>1960s, trailing the radicalism of the counter-culture
>in their wake, and have been a direct influence on
>punk, metal, dance and rave - as well as pioneering
>multimedia rock shows with their legendary Space
>Ritual tour, and leading the free festival scene from
>its birth to its apogee at the last Stonehenge in
>1984.
>
>Unruly, anarchic, and often at war with themselves,
>Hawkwind are one of the last great outsider bands.
>Although the testimony of guitarist and founder member
>Dave Brock isn't present, the film includes interviews
>with some of the band's enduring legends, including
>bassist Lemmy, writer Michael Moorcock, founder
>members Terry Ollis, Nik Turner and Mick Slattery,
>former managers Doug Smith and Jeff Dexter, leading
>rock critic Nick Kent and broadcaster and super-fan
>Matthew Wright.
>
>
>Mick
>
>
>
>
>
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From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 16:17:27 2007
From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:17:27 -0700
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Solo CD Press Release
Message-ID: <SAT.24.MAR.2007.131727.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi Folks,
Here's some additional information on the release of Alan's new solo CD. Please feel free to forward around to other newsgroups etc. Anyone needing a copy of the Press Release in word.doc format please e-mail me directly. I understand Alan will have stock of this release within the next two weeks.
Alan Davey
Human on the Outside
Format: CD
Website: www.alandaveymusic.co.uk
Alan Davey, long-time bass player with legendary space rockers Hawkwind, releases his new solo album, ?Human on the Outside?.
Brimming with Davey?s kaleidoscopic and technicolour musical ideas, Human on the Outside is destined to please long time fans of his work with Hawkwind, admirers of his previous solo outings Captured Rotation and Bedouin (both recently reissued by Voiceprint Records) and a whole new audience.
Human on the Outside is a timely reminder of Alan?s ability as a multi-talented instrumentalist featuring not only his highly regarded bass playing (he describes his style as "playing like a rhythm or lead guitar") but also his synth and six-string guitar work. The album also includes a vocal contribution (on ?Glass Wolves?) by his Meads of Asphodel colleague Metatron.
"It?s eclectic" notes Davey. "This album is way ahead of anything I?ve done before. There are deep, atmospheric, sounds and some really unusual rock numbers. It?s still clearly me ? but it sounds like nothing I?ve ever done before, it has a real filmic quality to it. I?m always stretching myself as a musician and trying to do something totally different, really experimenting with sounds. This one is really on the button."
Available from www.alandaveymusic.co.uk
"Davey remains an inventive and imaginative composer"
Record Collector Magazine
"If Alan Davey were cut down the middle, he?d have Hawkwind written through him"
Hawkwind ? Sonic Assassins (SAF Publishing, 2004)
For further information & interviews, please contact:
Ian Abrahams
T: 07722519266
E: ianabrahamsPR at fsmail.net
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From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sat Mar 24 17:49:51 2007
From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:49:51 +0100
Subject: film footage
In-Reply-To: <LISTSERV%200703201214086662.01BB@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Message-ID: <SAT.24.MAR.2007.224951.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
At 17:14 2007-03-20, you wrote:
>continuing on the film footage theme. it is said that on the 14th or 15th
>september 1973 swedish television filmed the hawks at either mantorps or
>gothenburg. although only "masters" was aired on swedish tv the whole gig
>was supposed to have been filmed. according to all the places i have looked
>there was only one swedish tv company at that time which was svt, if this is
>true maybe this footage can be tracked down. is there anyone out there from
>that part of the world that knows any more?
>john-paul
hi folks,
from the vaults:
(boc-l - 1 Dec 2000 16:59:06)
-----------------------------------------
1973.09.15 Swedish television filmed a Peace and Love festival in
Scandinavium, Gothenburg, where the Hawks was one of 6-8 bands playing
all night. The whole set was filmed, and was broadcasted almost a year
later - 1974.07.26 - in our second uncommercial channel TV2, local
time 21:35.
I got a clip from the tv guide in the local tabloid paper Aftonbladet
26th of July 1974, saying "Rymdpop, Tasavallan och Pugh i j?ttegala"
There's a big color pic of an eight musicnauts strong Hawkwind, along
with the following [fast] translated text:
"The pop festival in Gothenburg was a disapoinment, said the critics.
The English Space Poppers Hawkwind, with its light- and soundshow
"Space Ritual" was one of the more interesting piece, meant one
recencent."
The Hawkwind shot was well cut down - only a 2-3 mins passage of the
second verse of Master of the Universe was left - but "it was HEAVY"
claims hawkfriend K.S?ren Bengtsson of darXtar, who is remembering
Seeing It As It Really Were in his parents television set.
Nazareth was on the festival bill, but didn't show up.
Hawkwind was probably on stage at the same minute our old king died, that
very evening in 1973. There was no mention of something Earthly as a pop
festival in the papers the days after, for understandable reasons.
If you got a time machine, and manage to tune in 26th of July, National
Swedish Broadcast TV2, 21:35 - you've also got 2-3 minutes of Master of the
Universe.
Unfortunally the Royal Swedish Television have erased all media from this
event to save Space on their shelves.
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Mar 24 21:39:05 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 01:39:05 +0000
Subject: National Steam on CDBaby (not for sale!)
Message-ID: <SUN.25.MAR.2007.013905.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
From Columbus Ohio the sensational National Steam!
Reviewer: Christian Mumford
Well
I was the graphic artist for the cover tray and booklet of this CD, so
I thought I'd have a go with a short review. The music sounds abit like
a cross between Clearlight, Tangerine Dream, and Peter Hammill. You can
hear the musicians know what they are set out to do, and do some fine
space improv and a few progressive numbers. I hope this CD goes back in
print again, its very important that they keep such good music
availible again. Christian Mumford ( royalistradio at hotmail.com )
--------
hopefully my review will pop up on CDbaby shortly,,,,,, http://cdbaby.com/cd/nationalsteam
& do get the QUARKSPACE and CHURCH OF HED stuff from me!
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From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Mar 24 22:35:02 2007
From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:35:02 -0400
Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock, Alchemical Radio,
and Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown Shows
Message-ID: <SAT.24.MAR.2007.223502.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://Aural-Innovations.com
MARCH 24, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS
I've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show
#172), The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #11), and The Ear-Relevant Music
Hoedown (show #48). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24
hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go
directly to the Radio shows page at:
http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html
Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #172)
Enormous - "Pour It On Your Head" (from upcoming album Multiminchia)
Dream Robot - "Convergence" (from Air Boy: Defender of the Earth)
Yeti Rain - "Book of Visions" (from Discarnate)
Ogre - "Dogmen (of Planet Earth)" (from Seven Hells)
Chris Phinney & Don Campau - "All The Globulins You Are" (from Scientific
Standards)
Audiophyle - "Fire 2006" (from Cog)
Seven that Spells - "Black Liquorice / Tragic Boredom of the Universe" (from
My Mommy Wants to Kiss Your Mamma)
Ultra Violet Rays - "Believe" (from Universal Heart)
Paradox One - "An Orison of Somni" (from Inventing Stars)
Dora Flood - "Feels Like Yesterday" (from We Live Now)
White Hills - "Passage" (from Glitter Glamour Atrocity)
The Rick Ray Band - "Standing In Harms Way" (from Nothing To Lose)
White Noise Sound - "Blood" (from Blood EP)
The Aurapool - "Denial" (from The Aurapool)
Softwar - "Psychic Shake" (from Softwar)
Voltress - "Guts" (alternate mix of track from Antelopes)
The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #11)
Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and
features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Space Rock, Progressive
Rock and much much more.
(Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill)
Punishment Of Luxury - Blood Money
The Bitter Little Cider Apples - Antique Happiness
Basement 3 - Rudy Song
The Ozric Tentacles - Pixel Dreams
The Morrigan - In The End
Clear Blue Sky - Earth, The Rock
Tygre Moth & The Invisible Gypsy Band - Tick Tock Before The Silence
Jones Ave - Broken By The World
Mostly Autumn - Shrinking Violet
Ray Bennett - Changing
Gazpacho - Bravo
The Lucky Bishops - Doppelganger
The Morrigan - Slieve Russell / The March Hare
The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #48)
The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown was created to give an audio spotlight to the
exciting improvisational, experimental, and general avant-garde rock & jazz
we receive in the Aural Innovations mailbox.
Magik Plastique - "Say Goodbye Tonight" (from We See You)
Emily Hay/Brad Dutz/Wayne Peet - "It Can Be Thick" (from s/t)
Phil Hargreaves & Glenn Weyant - "To The Singer" (from Friday Morning
Everywhere)
Marcos Fernandes & Mike Pride - "Is Anything More Than Everything" (from A
Mountain is a Mammal)
Random Touch - "Bound For Escape" (from Alchemy)
If, Bwana - "Connecticut" (from Cassette Culture Compilaton Two)
Michael Thomas Jackson - "A Little Something for Ligeti" (from Cassette
Culture Compilaton Two)
Bela Emerson - "Subaqua" (from Audio Art Compilaton 3)
Music For One - "Beginnings With No Ends (from Audio Art Compilation 3)
Sandoz Lab Technicians - "Nebulous" (from The Western Lands)
The Mighty Vitamins - "Talk That Big Talk" (from Take-Out)
Bill Horist and Marron - "Ame mo Fureba, Yuki mo Furu" (from Sleep Hammer)
Matt Weston - "Lonely Drive, Crowded Street" (from Resistance Cruisers)
Destructo Swarmbots - "Sipping on the Fog" (from Clear Light)
DC Improvisers Collective - "Meme + Variations" (from Meme + Variations)
http://Aural-Innovations.com
From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sun Mar 25 07:23:49 2007
From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:23:49 +0200
Subject: Alan Davey Solo CD Press Release
Message-ID: <SUN.25.MAR.2007.132349.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Will there be a vinyl release?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Abrahams" <ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK>
To: <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:17 PM
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Solo CD Press Release
> Hi Folks,
>
> Here's some additional information on the release of Alan's new solo CD.
> Please feel free to forward around to other newsgroups etc. Anyone needing
> a copy of the Press Release in word.doc format please e-mail me directly.
> I understand Alan will have stock of this release within the next two
> weeks.
>
> Alan Davey
> Human on the Outside
>
> Format: CD
> Website: www.alandaveymusic.co.uk
>
> Alan Davey, long-time bass player with legendary space rockers Hawkwind,
> releases his new solo album, 'Human on the Outside'.
>
> Brimming with Davey's kaleidoscopic and technicolour musical ideas, Human
> on the Outside is destined to please long time fans of his work with
> Hawkwind, admirers of his previous solo outings Captured Rotation and
> Bedouin (both recently reissued by Voiceprint Records) and a whole new
> audience.
>
> Human on the Outside is a timely reminder of Alan's ability as a
> multi-talented instrumentalist featuring not only his highly regarded bass
> playing (he describes his style as "playing like a rhythm or lead guitar")
> but also his synth and six-string guitar work. The album also includes a
> vocal contribution (on 'Glass Wolves') by his Meads of Asphodel colleague
> Metatron.
>
> "It's eclectic" notes Davey. "This album is way ahead of anything I've
> done before. There are deep, atmospheric, sounds and some really unusual
> rock numbers. It's still clearly me - but it sounds like nothing I've ever
> done before, it has a real filmic quality to it. I'm always stretching
> myself as a musician and trying to do something totally different, really
> experimenting with sounds. This one is really on the button."
>
> Available from www.alandaveymusic.co.uk
>
>
> "Davey remains an inventive and imaginative composer"
> Record Collector Magazine
>
> "If Alan Davey were cut down the middle, he'd have Hawkwind written
> through him"
> Hawkwind - Sonic Assassins (SAF Publishing, 2004)
>
> For further information & interviews, please contact:
> Ian Abrahams
> T: 07722519266
> E: ianabrahamsPR at fsmail.net
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Don't pick lemons.
> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>
>
From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Mar 25 07:35:44 2007
From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 04:35:44 -0700
Subject: Alan Davey Solo CD Press Release
In-Reply-To: <001001c76ed0$0f9e8b50$0202a8c0@filip>
Message-ID: <SUN.25.MAR.2007.043544.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Not at the moment, but actually it's a good point - would be very collectable! I'll mention it to Alan.
By the way, the full PR is on:
www.spacerockreviews.blogspot.com (first thing up!) and
www.ianabrahams.blogspot.com
Ian
Filip Vanhuyse <Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE> wrote:
Will there be a vinyl release?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Abrahams"
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:17 PM
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Solo CD Press Release
> Hi Folks,
>
> Here's some additional information on the release of Alan's new solo CD.
> Please feel free to forward around to other newsgroups etc. Anyone needing
> a copy of the Press Release in word.doc format please e-mail me directly.
> I understand Alan will have stock of this release within the next two
> weeks.
>
> Alan Davey
> Human on the Outside
>
> Format: CD
> Website: www.alandaveymusic.co.uk
>
> Alan Davey, long-time bass player with legendary space rockers Hawkwind,
> releases his new solo album, 'Human on the Outside'.
>
> Brimming with Davey's kaleidoscopic and technicolour musical ideas, Human
> on the Outside is destined to please long time fans of his work with
> Hawkwind, admirers of his previous solo outings Captured Rotation and
> Bedouin (both recently reissued by Voiceprint Records) and a whole new
> audience.
>
> Human on the Outside is a timely reminder of Alan's ability as a
> multi-talented instrumentalist featuring not only his highly regarded bass
> playing (he describes his style as "playing like a rhythm or lead guitar")
> but also his synth and six-string guitar work. The album also includes a
> vocal contribution (on 'Glass Wolves') by his Meads of Asphodel colleague
> Metatron.
>
> "It's eclectic" notes Davey. "This album is way ahead of anything I've
> done before. There are deep, atmospheric, sounds and some really unusual
> rock numbers. It's still clearly me - but it sounds like nothing I've ever
> done before, it has a real filmic quality to it. I'm always stretching
> myself as a musician and trying to do something totally different, really
> experimenting with sounds. This one is really on the button."
>
> Available from www.alandaveymusic.co.uk
>
>
> "Davey remains an inventive and imaginative composer"
> Record Collector Magazine
>
> "If Alan Davey were cut down the middle, he'd have Hawkwind written
> through him"
> Hawkwind - Sonic Assassins (SAF Publishing, 2004)
>
> For further information & interviews, please contact:
> Ian Abrahams
> T: 07722519266
> E: ianabrahamsPR at fsmail.net
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Don't pick lemons.
> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>
>
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From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Mar 26 05:19:53 2007
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:19:53 +0100
Subject: BOC: new remasters
In-Reply-To: <20070319105955.l3x0kb5w08sk44gg@webmail.acmenet.net>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.101953.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
I've had time to give these a proper spin now, and even to get
the DVD somewhere I could watch it, or most of it. I'm pretty pleased
with this overall: _Spectres_ will never be my favourite album, but I'm
a lot more likely to stick it on now it's not on muddy-soudning tape :-)
As someone else said, it still sounds like _Spectres_ but that's much
less of a problem now than it was. `I Love the Night', particularly,
really shines with this sound and even `Searching for Celine', which I
was always dubious about, makes a lot more sense when its subtleties are
audible. `R U Ready to Rock' is still a bit of a clunker, but the live
version on SEE has always solved that problem :-) And of course
`Godzilla' is still fabulous. Odd that `Golden Age of Leather' doesn't
seem improved much; I was hoping the chorus at the beginning would
become clearer, I don't know; this song it seems to me has been cleaned
up less successfully than the others.
Of the bonus tracks, well, I am at a complete loss to understand
*why* BOC recorded `Be My Baby', but it's a perfectly good version, and
reminds the listener that Eric can in fact sing (in fact this whole
album does a pretty good job of that). `Night Flyer' is great, it's not
quite `Boorman' again but close to, and the lyrics drag one into the
middle of the song slowly just to work out what's going on. I'd have
happily seen this on the album instead of one of the tracks that made
the cut. I am less sure about `Please Hold', mainly because Eric misses
several of the high notes, and the whole song sounds strained as a
result in places, but it keeps popping up in my head. Weird amalgam of
Stalk Forrest Group and something like Becker & Fagen in some ways...
And `M for Murder' also keeps coming back, but like `Mommy' on _Secret
Treaties_ I can see why it didn't make the cut.
_Some Enchanted Evening_ was the album that got me into BOC in
the first place. This remaster has firstly proven that I was quite right
:-) and secondly given me a kind of deja vu of another experience. At
about the same time in my late teens I had recently developed, firstly
the conviction that SEE proved that BOC were, or at least had in 1978
been, the most brilliant rock band ever, and secondly, a huge crush on
Chrissy Hynde. Now a few years ago I actually saw the Pretenders, fully
expecting to have my teenage obsessions firmly drowned by the passage of
time, and Ms Hynde was entirely fabulous and I went away very surprised
that anything I'd thought when I was seventeen could have been so true.
Well, this remaster has proven that there were at least two such things
:-) If there's a better live rock album than this I'll never believe it.
So the remasterers have done a good job I'd say. It still sounds like a
live album, but now you can hear the slight echo from the edges of the
performance space that is *why* the sound is slightly confined, and
whatever fuzzinesses and slight crowdings of ranges there may be you
feel were there in the halls when the recordings were made. So I'm
pretty happy with this; one of my favourite albums of all time renewed
and made better.
Again, bonus tracks; here I think it's clearer that the right
decisions were made at the time when choosing what to include. It's good
to hear all these extras but not a one should have replaced anything
that was there to start with. I was very struck by the busier drums on
`Summer of Love', and I'm glad I didn't listen to the audio-only `5
Guitars' before I'd seen the DVD version because I'm not sure I'd have
really understood what was going on. Joe can play bass a bit can't he?
:-)
As for the DVD, well, the sound could be better but it could be
oh so much worse, and Eric looks less ridiculous than he could have done
(the silver spandex and cape picture in the _Agents of Fortune_ liner
notes proves how far he *could* have gone :-) ) without dampening the
whole rock spectacle thing. And the 5 guitars bit is a lot of fun, and
the pyrotechnics works well; the lasers, I thought, didn't really come
over as impressive as the write-up makes them. For my money the coolest
thing by far is Eric and Buck's duelling guitars; after all the pictures
I'd seen of it it's great to find out what that actually *sounded* like,
especially when the answer is, `almost as much as if things are on the
point of breaking as it looks as if they were' and also `really cool'.
The actual performances are also more or less as good as the audio disc,
but less well preserved; and the "semi-bootleg" nature of the film means
that you only get one perspective and so Al, most of all, is very hard
to see properly for a lot of the show, whereas one would like to be
able to see what he was hitting, assuming that his arms weren't blurred
in real time too :-) But basically, anyone seeing this show on DVD ought
to see what the whole fuss is about, and that's the most important
thing. It needs a proper viewing on a bigger screen turned up with beers
to hand, but for now, I am very happy with this package.
Roll on the next batch, whatever they may be. That is a question
actually. CE's already had a kind of remaster, hasn't it? And though
_Mirrors_ badly *needs* one, it's perhaps the least important album
musically speaking (though if what has been done for `I Love the Night'
on _Spectres_ can be done for `The Vigil' I'm sold already). We all want
OYFOOYK, but we've just had two discs of live material, so I wonder if
the people in charge will not want to put it off some more; and does
*anyone* care enough about tRbN? So I'm guessing next batch will be
_Mirrors_ and FoUO, but not for some time... Anyway, that's more than
2pworth by some way, so I'll stop. Yours,
Jon
--
"When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?"
(Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206)
Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 26 05:38:39 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:38:39 +0100
Subject: BOC: new remasters
In-Reply-To: <20070326091953.GG28915@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.103839.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 26/03/2007 10:19, Jonathan Jarrett wrote:
> Odd that `Golden Age of Leather' doesn't
> seem improved much; I was hoping the chorus at the beginning would
> become clearer, I don't know; this song it seems to me has been cleaned
> up less successfully than the others.
Maybe there were just lots and lots and lots of layers of analogue tape
(or overdubs on analogue tape) in the mix that remastering can't help
much with? My understanding has been that _Imaginos_ suffers from
similar problems of vast, vast piles of analogue editing. (Though I
stand ready to be corrected in these recording-amateur's assumptions!)
> I went away very surprised
> that anything I'd thought when I was seventeen could have been so true.
I am sure everything I believed at 17 is still true! :) I have,
however, added a few other true beliefs to stand alongside those over
the intervening zillion years .... :)
> Joe can play bass a bit can't he? :-)
Let the record show it!
> Eric looks less ridiculous than he could have done
> (the silver spandex and cape picture in the _Agents of Fortune_ liner
> notes proves how far he *could* have gone :-) )
And _had_ in fact gone before. On the other hand, Buck has never looked
better than he did in the white suit and sporting the 'tache.
> It needs a proper viewing on a bigger screen turned up with beers
> to hand
As does nearly everything ....
> CE's already had a kind of remaster, hasn't it?
Um, can't remember .... Has it?
> And though
> _Mirrors_ badly *needs* one, it's perhaps the least important album
> musically speaking (though if what has been done for `I Love the Night'
> on _Spectres_ can be done for `The Vigil' I'm sold already).
And maybe with some very nice previously unreleased bonus tracks, or at
least some top notch live cuts from the era.
> and does *anyone* care enough about tRbN?
My guess is: No.
> So I'm guessing next batch will be
> _Mirrors_ and FoUO, but not for some time...
Good guess, I'd say, though I've always thought _FoUO_ sounds pretty
damn good already! A lot of care seemed to be taken with the recording
process there, I thought. Still, that's not stopped people remastering
plenty of other stuff from the 80s (some of which still sounds perfectly
respectable, though other 80s stuff was mastered in an utterly dire
way), and again the addition of good bonus tracks would be the clincher
here.
I would, of course, clamour for an _Imaginos_ remaster, though that will
_never_ happen :P (And though it certainly couldn't hurt, I'm not sure
how much it will help, giving the complicated recording process.) Maybe
someday about a million years from now Rhino Handmade will release a 3
disc package of _Imaginos_ goodies salvaged from the original recordings
(hey, they did it for the Monkees' _Headquarters_!) and we'll finally
hear it in all it's random access glory. And, then again, Donovan's
monkeys might fly out of my butt .... ;)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Mon Mar 26 09:01:07 2007
From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:01:07 -0500
Subject: Hawkwind @NF 07 gen Tix on sale 3/31/07!!!
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.080107.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Tickets for NEARfest 2007 will go on sale Saturday, March 31st at
11:00am EST. Go to the General Sales page for prices and details.
Don't forget that you can also purchase the same seats for the Friday
preshow at the same time that you buy your NEARfest tickets!
http://www.nearfest.com
These sell out in minuites so be ready at your computers
From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Mon Mar 26 09:18:35 2007
From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:18:35 -0500
Subject: BOC: Still no Alan
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.081835.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
My best friend from college saw BOC in Anaheim last night.. Set list
will come as soon as he can get it to me.
No alan and no reason why, he saw the band after the show with his two
dau aged 14 and 11, and asked each about Alan. None of them gave an
answer.
The band was very very friendly and gave each of the girls a signed
set list. Eric gave the oldest girl a pick as well.
Buck and Eric were apparently extreemly great to meet.
Set list later
Mike
From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Mar 26 09:20:11 2007
From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:20:11 -0500
Subject: Hawkwind @NF 07 gen Tix on sale 3/31/07!!!
In-Reply-To: <b65d0adc0703260601r5f6fd26fk7542d64dd6ee0d0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.082011.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Mike Montfort wrote:
:Subject: Hawkwind @NF 07 gen Tix on sale 3/31/07!!!
:
:Tickets for NEARfest 2007 will go on sale Saturday, March 31st at
:11:00am EST. Go to the General Sales page for prices and details.
:Don't forget that you can also purchase the same seats for the Friday
:preshow at the same time that you buy your NEARfest tickets!
:
:http://www.nearfest.com
:
:These sell out in minuites so be ready at your computers
Speaking of which, has anyone heard if the band is now clear for their
visas?
Thanks,
Arin
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From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Mar 26 11:56:25 2007
From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason M. Scruton)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:56:25 -0400
Subject: BOC: new remasters
In-Reply-To: <4607949F.4020706@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.115625.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Quoting Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>:
> On 26/03/2007 10:19, Jonathan Jarrett wrote:
>> Odd that `Golden Age of Leather' doesn't seem improved much; I was
>> hoping the chorus at the beginning would become clearer, I don't
>> know; this song it seems to me has been cleaned up less
>> successfully than the others.
The one song I used to listen to a lot on the old CD/LP, "Death Valley
Nights," is one I can't listen to (with headphones) on the
remaster,The piano track sounds soooo 'wobbly' -- maybe it was always
treated this way but the remastering brought it out more -- that it
just throws me off each time (it's a bucking piano track then!hah!).
>> Eric looks less ridiculous than he could have done (the silver
>> spandex and cape picture in the _Agents of Fortune_ liner notes
>> proves how far he *could* have gone :-) )
>
> And _had_ in fact gone before. On the other hand, Buck has never
> looked better than he did in the white suit and sporting the 'tache.
The SEE DVD di a lot to rectify Eric's image -- maybe because he
doesn't do as many hang gestures as he did on "Stairway to the Stars"
and prowls the stage a bit more than he does in Live 1976.
>
>> CE's already had a kind of remaster, hasn't it?
>
> Um, can't remember .... Has it?
It was done for release in Europe/UK in 1999.
That Rhino Handmade would do a good job with an "imaginos special" is
a good idea. I could see Pearlman being involved, I hope, thinking it
would make a fun challenge to wrap up that phase in his career the way
he oughta.
>> and does *anyone* care enough about tRbN?
>
> My guess is: No.
Moreso than Club Ninja... poor ol' Club. I liked Take Me Away and the
paradigm of metal, Let Go (though I never listen to eyes on fire.
that's just plain creepy.) CN is too... smooth.
I'm still waiting for OYF to join its remastered siblings. if i had
to choose, i'd rather that alb than ETL.
better hold on tight to your soul now,
J.
From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Mon Mar 26 12:11:56 2007
From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:11:56 -0500
Subject: BOC: Setlist '07 - Warning!!! Spoilers for tour
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.111156.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
3/25/07
Stairway to the Stars
O D'd on Life
I'm Burning for You
Shooting Shark
Black Blade
Summer of Love
Golden Age of Leather
MC
Last Days of May (With a VERY long solos by Ritchie and then Buck)
Godzilla
Buck Solo ? NOT Buck's Boogie, but him standing there alone, with NO
other instruments, and doing very cool things on the guitar.
Reaper
ENCORE:
She's as Beautiful as a Foot
Cities on Flame
The Red & the Black
From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Mar 26 12:24:44 2007
From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason M. Scruton)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:24:44 -0400
Subject: BOC: Setlist '07 - Warning!!! Spoilers for tour
In-Reply-To: <b65d0adc0703260911s229160afo9925cc7d6be21b94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.122444.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> ENCORE:
> She's as Beautiful as a Foot
Holy cow!!! I'd go see BOC now just for that encore. I miss buck's
psychedelic playing.
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Mar 26 12:43:55 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:43:55 +0100
Subject: BOC: new remasters
In-Reply-To: <20070326115625.hzuqwy3rmsswcoks@webmail.acmenet.net>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.174355.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 26/03/2007 16:56, Jason M. Scruton wrote:
> Quoting Carl Edlund Anderson <cea at CARLAZ.COM>:
>> On 26/03/2007 10:19, Jonathan Jarrett wrote:
>>> and does *anyone* care enough about tRbN?
>>
>> My guess is: No.
>
> Moreso than Club Ninja... poor ol' Club. I liked Take Me Away and the
> paradigm of metal, Let Go (though I never listen to eyes on fire. that's
> just plain creepy.) CN is too... smooth.
Actually, I quite like "Take Me Away" too. But, even so, I'm not sure
anyone's in a huge rush to remaster _tRbN_.
As for CN .... well, I certainly used to have a guilty soft spot for
"Beat 'Em Up" (!) but it's been a loooong while since I've actually
listened to _CN_, so I'd best reserve judgment there.
IMO, there's a good argument that BOC should have broken up -- full
stop, or at least semi-colon -- after FoUO and Al's departure, then have
reformed around the turn of the millennium, older and wiser and fully
armed with the Imaginos material for a new double album with the
original line-up. But, eh, so it goes. ;)
> I'm still waiting for OYF to join its remastered siblings. if i had to
> choose, i'd rather that alb than ETL.
More Al content, for one thing! :)
Hey, I mean, I like ETL all right -- it was one of the first BOC albums
I actually owned -- but I'm not sure it deserves remastering as much as
does OYF.
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea at carlaz.com
http://www.carlaz.com/
From Tjackson at SYR.EDU Mon Mar 26 13:16:34 2007
From: Tjackson at SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:16:34 -0400
Subject: BOC: Setlist '07 - Warning!!! Spoilers for tour
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.131634.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>>> mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM 3/26/2007 12:11 PM >>>
3/25/07
Stairway to the Stars
O D'd on Life
I'm Burning for You
Shooting Shark
Black Blade
Summer of Love
Golden Age of Leather
MC
Uh, does this MC mean what I think it means?
Last Days of May (With a VERY long solos by Ritchie and then Buck)
Godzilla
Buck Solo * NOT Buck's Boogie, but him standing there alone, with NO
other instruments, and doing very cool things on the guitar.
Reaper
ENCORE:
She's as Beautiful as a Foot
Cities on Flame
The Red & the Black
Hmm, a couple points of interest, no doubt!
Kinda bittersweet, finally putting SABAaF
in the set, only to not hear Allen playing on
it. 'MC'? Holy shit, that would really be
something to hear. Then top it all off with
TAtSoL, and GAoL. Pretty nice set for that
show. Toss in Teen Archer of Flaming
Telepaths, and you're really talking!
theo
From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 26 14:32:12 2007
From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:32:12 -0700
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Myspace Page
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.113212.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi Folks,
Alan now has a myspace page to further promote his new CD. We've got a couple of tracks from his previous solo/Bedouin releases already playing, there will be a new track later this week and we'll be adding content over the next couple of weeks.
I'm giving a little help with the admin side to start with but Alan will see all comments - and of course there's a link to his main website.
www.myspace.com/alandaveymusic
Friend requests welcome!
Ian
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From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Mon Mar 26 17:13:14 2007
From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:13:14 -0400
Subject: Hawkwind @NF 07 gen Tix on sale 3/31/07!!!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.62.0703260818030.23238@unecre.hpuvpntb.rqh>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.171314.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
According to Rob and Chad the people from Nearfest all is a go.
Have not heard from the Hawkind camp.
Mike
http://corwyn.blogspot.com
the blog
http://www.mikemontfort.com
the pics
http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort
the myspace
http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/
the photobucket
http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/
the flickr site
Arin Komins wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Mike Montfort wrote:
>
> :Subject: Hawkwind @NF 07 gen Tix on sale 3/31/07!!!
> :
> :Tickets for NEARfest 2007 will go on sale Saturday, March 31st at
> :11:00am EST. Go to the General Sales page for prices and details.
> :Don't forget that you can also purchase the same seats for the Friday
> :preshow at the same time that you buy your NEARfest tickets!
> :
> :http://www.nearfest.com
> :
> :These sell out in minuites so be ready at your computers
>
> Speaking of which, has anyone heard if the band is now clear for their
> visas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Arin
>
From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Mar 26 18:15:30 2007
From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry G)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:15:30 -0400
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Myspace Page
In-Reply-To: <777185.86549.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.181530.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Ian Abrahams wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Alan now has a myspace page to further promote his new CD. We've got a couple of tracks from his previous solo/Bedouin releases already playing, there will be a new track later this week and we'll be adding content over the next couple of weeks.
>
Already ordered the CD. How long before they ship to the US?
J
From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 02:34:40 2007
From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:34:40 -0700
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Myspace Page
In-Reply-To: <46084602.6070809@stny.rr.com>
Message-ID: <MON.26.MAR.2007.233440.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Last time I spoke to Alan they'd be with him in just over a week's time so a few days before Easter I'd think.
Ian
Jerry G <jguizar at STNY.RR.COM> wrote:
Ian Abrahams wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Alan now has a myspace page to further promote his new CD. We've got a couple of tracks from his previous solo/Bedouin releases already playing, there will be a new track later this week and we'll be adding content over the next couple of weeks.
>
Already ordered the CD. How long before they ship to the US?
J
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From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Mar 27 02:40:35 2007
From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller))
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:40:35 +0200
Subject: BOC Live review
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.084035.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://www.musicstreetjournal.com/blueoystercultlive07.htm
Good BOC review, where the guy calls Allan the long time bass player...
scott
www.oresundspacecollective.com
From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Mar 27 02:52:10 2007
From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:52:10 +0100
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Myspace Page
In-Reply-To: <777185.86549.qm@web26903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.075210.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 26 Mar 2007, at 19:32, Ian Abrahams wrote:
> Alan now has a myspace page to further promote his new CD. We've
> got a couple of tracks from his previous solo/Bedouin releases
> already playing, there will be a new track later this week and
> we'll be adding content over the next couple of weeks. [...]
> www.myspace.com/alandaveymusic
Cool. His Rickenbacker pose photo is better than mine :) but there's
only so much I can do! :) Already ordered the CD, so I'm already
looking forward to that!
> Friend requests welcome!
Just put mine in! :)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
http://www.carlaz.com/
http://www.myspace.com/carlsefni
From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Mar 27 03:13:18 2007
From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller))
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:13:18 +0200
Subject: OFF: Oresund Space Collective
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.091318.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hej Folks,
I don't mean to waste space with promoting my band but we just got a
review and the reviewer really thinks we sound a lot like Hawkwind,
apparently... If those of you who have the CD could comment (privately
is ok), I would be curious..
Anyway, hope you enjoy reading this if you have the time. I just got Nik
Turners Xitintoday remaster. Great sound.. far out CD... Look forward to
Allan's new solo CD.
scott
Oresund Space Collective - It's All About Delay
By Gary Hill
Overall Review
This modern space rock band have released their second disc for
Record Heaven/Transubstans. A double disc collection, this is possibly
even better than its predecessor. While you will still find healthy
helping of Hawkwind in the mix (how can you play space rock and not be
compared to Hawkwind?), I'd say that this one has more variety than the
last. While I'm not crazy about each and every piece here, the ones that
grabbed me really blew me away. This comes highly recommended to fans of
Hawkwind, space rock in general, psyehedelia and jam band music. It's a
great disc and the really wild thing is that it, like all OSC music, is
completely improvised. For more information check out the Record Heaven
website.
Track by Track Review
Disc 1
Rolling: Starting with a quick, "we're rolling," we are. A chiming
sounding guitar texture leads this one off and whooshing sounds bring in
Hawkwind-like textures. The rhythmic bass line brings in more echoes of
the Hawkmeisters. A retro sounding organ and space sounds are laid over
the top of this backdrop. At about two minutes in a new funky guitar
sound ups the ante, while the main themes remain the same. This turns
crunchy as it carries on. Synthesizer plays over the top of the motif
before more retro organ rejoins the fray. A killer echoey guitar brings
in elements of '60's psychedelia. Like the best space rock, this travels
through incremental changes and additions. A Hendrix musical quote
emerges at one point. After all the instruments have had a chance to
shine, they drop it back for a while (at about the eight minute mark)
and the bass takes a (accompanied) solo. Some Doors-like keyboards come
over the top of this arrangement at points. This is simply a screaming
piece of space rock that, while evoking echoes of Hawkwind, still has
its own identity, too. It's an awesome way to lead off the proceedings.
At almost twelve and a half minutes it's still not the longest piece on
this half of the set.
Cirkus Yoda 1: More dramatic and mysterious keyboard tones are the
first thing heard here, accompanied by picked acoustic guitar (that
again makes me think of The Doors). Sound bites and other textures are
placed over the top of this and with keys sweeping overhead they begin
building upon this structure. It climbs up after a while into harder
rocking territory. While I wouldn't say this cut is an obvious killer as
the one that preceded it, the keyboard textures and cool psychedelic
guitar really make it a standout. It even includes a keyboard section
that calls to mind Rick Wakeman's work in Yes. In fact, I'd have to say
there is little to no Hawkwind on this song. I suddenly feel like I'm in
a scene from Monty Python - "you could get spam, eggs and spam - there's
not much spam in that."
Cirkus Yoda 2: Feeling like an electronic take on some spaghetti
western theme, this is definitely a change of pace. It moves into more
standard space rock territory later, but I have to say, this isn't one
of my favorites. The guitar solo late is a nice touch, though.
Nebula 4747: This almost feels like what California Guitar Trio might
sound like if they added in other instruments and became a space rock
band. This, as is typical with most space rock, doesn't go anywhere
fast, but the arrangement swirls in slowly growing modes and is a good
(but not great) one.
Isle of Mogens: Here we get something that feels like a electro-jazz
version of Hawkind sound. I guess you could almost see it as Kraftwerk
meets Hawkwind in jazzy motif. This is one of the cooler soundscapes on
the disc. It turns rather funky later. It gets some killer keyboard
sounds at times, too.
Shaved Cortex: At about fifteen and a half minutes in length, this is
the longest piece of music on CD 1. A psychedelic jam band sound starts
it and waves of space are laid over the top. It turns to heavier,
Hawk-like modes later with Doors-oriented keyboards skipping over the
surface. Still further down the road killer keys and theremin work waves
of sound over some scorching space guitar textures. It turns to more
pure Hawkwind type sounds in a hard rocking jam later. This one moves in
a variety of different directions and is my favorite track on this disc
of the set, if not the whole album.
Pink Jumps in the Ring: A bouncy texture with waves of echoey sound
makes up the mode here. This has a definite surf music texture and keys
sounding like a barking dog emerge in the mix, too. This one rocks out
harder than some of the other stuff as it grows and is another
highlight.
In Her Majesty's Secret Saucer: Awesome space keys lead this off. Then
guitars join into the musical fray. Other keys wash over as it's
building up. The track pounds out into a fast paced, hard rocking jam
just before the one minute mark and we're off on a wonderful journey
from there. More retro keys play over the top as space washes provide
the backing. Lines of noisy guitar scream across in a tasty manner
later. As one might guess from the title a lot of this feels like
science fiction music, perhaps a bit like the soundtrack to "Space
1999." Heavy organ sounds grind across the sound at times as does funky
guitar. This is a pure screamer and another highlight of the disc.
Disc 2
Jupiter Flyby: At almost twenty five minutes, this is the longest
track on the set. It starts very sedately and guitar begins to build
upwards. Keyboards and whooshing textures enter to play over this
backdrop. This doesn't go far in this vein, though, instead dropping
back to space for a time. The group play around in this textural format
for a short time, then new keyboard textures begin to rise up. They work
through a few varying modes and moods within this general motif. At
around six and a half minutes in it begins to become more of a "song"
structure, with guitar taking the lead in creating the melody. Still,
this is never fully realized as they move back out into ambient zones
after a time. At around the twelve minute mark, though, they power it
out into a new song structure. This is a prog jam with a lot of elements
of space and psychedelia. Working through various incarnations and
manifestations this gets quite powerful at times. Doors-type keys emerge
later and this segment is the longest movement of the track, taking it
eventually to its conclusion.
Alien Strip Club: Guitar sounds start this one off and they build up
with a psychedelic space rock texture. This eventually settles into a
satisfying groove as it carries on. As it gradually builds and morphs,
it becomes a smoking space rocker that is one of the highlights of the
set. The echoes of Hawkwind do emerge on this track, too, but it's
definitely not limited to that territory.
Chris Ice Sack: This song and the next probably have the most clever
titles of the whole disc - say it fast and you'll get it. Again, sedate
modes begin this. As the song structure rises up it's echoey and covered
with plenty of whooshing, Hawk-like keyboard sounds. It modulates
through a number of changes on this theme before moving out into a more
freeform jazz jam that still rooted deeply in space tones. This reminds
me a bit of some of the Grateful Dead's space jams, but with Hawkwind
styled keys laid over the top of the format. As it moves onward keys
begin to take on textures more like The Doors and Pink Floyd and then
the whole arrangement starts to resemble very early Floyd. More
Kraftwerk-like sounds come over at times and this whole sound evolves
vary slowly. It does turn into something a bit more funky and fast paced
later. Then it transforms into a hard-edged jam that calls to mind very
early Hawkwind. This is blistering in it's fast paced sonic
architecture. A great fusion sort of sound takes over later with lots of
funk overtones. At over twenty minutes this is the second longest piece
here, but nothing on this second disc clocks in at less than fifteen
minutes.
The Tony Blair Witch Crocket Project: A bouncy guitar texture leads
this off, but weird keys play over the top of this bluesy, folky mode
that still reminds me of early Hawkwind. As this grows it becomes
playful and perhaps a bit like early King Crimson. There are spoken
vocals, laid over the top, echoes and manipulated in layers of whispers
and dream-like textures. This gives way after a while to a weirder
soundscape for a time - with odd keyboard textures taking command. Then
the keys modulate out into a new melody that is bouncy and a bit New-Age
like. Still other elements are present keeping this from being "easy
listening." This moves through a number of odd changes with weird sounds
emerging and moving forward, making this the strangest piece of music on
the set. It does include some killer echoey retro guitar, though,
bringing it into the realm of psychedelia. This never really seems to
coalesce all that well, though. For this reviewer it's probably the
weakest cut on show here. I just didn't think it was all that easy to
listen to and not the best choice to close the disc.
www.oresundspacecollective.com
From Tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Mar 27 07:30:48 2007
From: Tjackson at SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:30:48 -0400
Subject: BOC Live review
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.073048.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>>> shll at HAGEDORN.DK 3/27/2007 2:40 AM >>>
http://www.musicstreetjournal.com/blueoystercultlive07.htm
Good BOC review, where the guy calls Allan the long time bass
player...
scott
Who's Allan?
theo
From wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET Tue Mar 27 08:09:27 2007
From: wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET (Warrick Bell)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:09:27 -0400
Subject: BOC: new remasters
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.080927.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hello BOC-L,
Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:19:53 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote:
> I am less sure about `Please Hold', mainly because Eric misses
> several of the high notes, and the whole song sounds strained as a
> result in places, but it keeps popping up in my head.
To me it sounded like it was Alan singing it, which is maybe why there are missed notes. I seem to recall Al mentioning that one of the bonus tracks was going to be another Alan vocal.
From Tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Mar 27 08:19:29 2007
From: Tjackson at SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:19:29 -0400
Subject: BOC: new remasters
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.081929.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
>>> wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET 3/27/2007 8:09 AM >>>
Hello BOC-L,
Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:19:53 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote:
> I am less sure about `Please Hold', mainly because Eric misses
> several of the high notes, and the whole song sounds strained as a
> result in places, but it keeps popping up in my head.
To me it sounded like it was Alan singing it, which is maybe why there
are missed notes. I seem to recall Al mentioning that one of the bonus
tracks was going to be another Alan vocal.
Who's Alan?
theo
From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Mar 27 09:48:48 2007
From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:48:48 -0500
Subject: HW: HW on BBC4
In-Reply-To: <20070324103950.1429.qmail@web86205.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.084848.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Michael Crook wrote:
:Subject: Re: HW: HW on BBC4
:
:Sadly no input from Dave :(
:
:Hopefully there will be some good early footage and
:maybe contact could be established with the programme
:researchers to find the source!
:
:http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/listings/programme.shtml?day=friday&filename=20070330/20070330_2100_4544_12424_60&service_id=4544
Would some kind soul record and upload this somewhere where it might be
reachable for those of us who are BBC-deprived? Somehow I suspect that
this won't make it across to BBC America :-)
Thanks!
Arin
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From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Mar 27 10:14:03 2007
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:14:03 +0100
Subject: HW: bronze film footage
In-Reply-To: <45FEC247.7040403@carlaz.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.151403.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 05:03:03PM +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out:
> I am just going to take this opportunity to say that I have never yet
> heard _too_much_ of Dave's guitar. :) I realize he's been letting it
> out for a roam around a bit more recently, but there could always be _more_.
Now, I think I actually have, but it was mainly down to the
sound of the venue. The Cambridge Junction gig in, er, 2004? with
Spacehead supporting, Dave's rig was *so* much louder than everythimng
else that the only way to hear any of the other instruments, even the
bass, was to be right over the other side of the stage. Unfortunately
wherever you were the high-range was still full of painful white noise
and Simon's violin was basically making static because of this. So yeah,
not Dave's fault, but the performance would have been easier to enjoy if
he'd *turned it down a bit*.
That's the only time, mind, and I've lamented the lack of guitar
much more often. Luckily the band made up for that perofrmance in
Nottingham the next evening, which was a marvellous gig.
> Secondly, and completely off-topic, I'm going to ask whether anyone
> knows whether the Roadburn recordings from last year are still likely to
> see some kind of decent sounding release (as opposed to rips from the
> RealAudio that we all discussed to death)?
That, also, was a marvellous gig, though whether we need still
another retrospective live release just yet is maybe more questionable.
I'd like it to be out there, sure; but it is, those webcasts don't go
anywhere as yet. Yours,
Jon
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From bart at HAWKBOY.NL Tue Mar 27 10:28:34 2007
From: bart at HAWKBOY.NL (Bart Brugmans)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:28:34 +0200
Subject: HW: Live on Mars CD
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.162834.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Anybody know why there in NO Hawkwind on the Lfe on Mars CD???
http://www7.cd-wow.nl/detail_results.php?product_code=1885985
Is this a missed opportunity or what?
--BArt
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Mar 27 12:32:39 2007
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:32:39 +0100
Subject: HW: HW on BBC4
In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:48:48 -0500
Message-ID: <TUE.27.MAR.2007.173239.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Arin Komins writes:
> Would some kind soul record and upload this somewhere where it might be
> reachable for those of us who are BBC-deprived? Somehow I suspect that
> this won't make it across to BBC America :-)
I can certainly record it and convert it to Mpg4. Dunno where I could
load it though?
FoFP
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Mar 27 23:21:43 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:21:43 +0100
Subject: Dave Brock in The Doors
Message-ID: <WED.28.MAR.2007.042143.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://cdbaby.com/cd/wildchild
sounds just like uh, him.....
Christian
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From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Mar 29 08:52:21 2007
From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 08:52:21 -0400
Subject: Dave Brock in The Doors
In-Reply-To: <591184.55884.qm@web23009.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.29.MAR.2007.085221.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 04:21:43AM +0100, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> http://cdbaby.com/cd/wildchild
>
> sounds just like uh, him.....
>
> Christian
Gosh, who knew our Dave could get so down with dirty blues? ;-)
Seriously, though, it's a good thing these guys are just a
cover band, or things could get very confused, doing music
searches on Dave Brock. If this other Brock guy ever
strikes out on his own, the whole Hawkwind Kollektor thing
will get quite confusing. Errr... make that "even more
confusing". :)
Steve
From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Mar 29 13:57:44 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:57:44 +0000
Subject: Dave Brock in The Doors
Message-ID: <THU.29.MAR.2007.175744.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Maybe he could be in a Hawkwind composite cover band with the other Robert Calvert, Danny Thompson, Nicky Turner..... (remember our very own Jon Browne once concocted such a band on this very list!)
Christian
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 04:21:43AM +0100, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote:
> http://cdbaby.com/cd/wildchild
>
> sounds just like uh, him.....
>
> Christian
Gosh, who knew our Dave could get so down with dirty blues? ;-)
Seriously, though, it's a good thing these guys are just a
cover band, or things could get very confused, doing music
searches on Dave Brock. If this other Brock guy ever
strikes out on his own, the whole Hawkwind Kollektor thing
will get quite confusing. Errr... make that "even more
confusing". :)
Steve
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From greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Mar 29 17:16:03 2007
From: greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM (greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM)
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:16:03 +0100
Subject: HW: HW on BBC4
Message-ID: <THU.29.MAR.2007.221603.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
> Would some kind soul record and upload this somewhere where it might be
> reachable for those of us who are BBC-deprived? Somehow I suspect that
> this won't make it across to BBC America :-)
>
>
Keep an eye on the various Bit Torrent trackers. It is certainly due to be
uploaded on at least two of them over the weekend.
Dave
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From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 05:33:32 2007
From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:33:32 +0100
Subject: OFF: stonehenge pocket watch
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.103332.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
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From heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM Fri Mar 30 07:19:21 2007
From: heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM (tim elliott)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:19:21 -0400
Subject: OFF: stonehenge pocket watch
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...And where are they now, the little people of Stone'enge...
ha-ha
tim 8>)...
On 3/30/07, Wright, Mike <wrightm at bre.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Stonehenge is certainly surrounded by mystery concerning why it was
> built and by whom. Druids, aliens, Merlin, the devil - heck, we don't
> know - probably built by some ancient ancestors of modern geeks. You can
> now harness the power of the sun and the stones by using the Stonehenge
> Watch. Just position the watch using the accompanying high viscosity
> compass to tell local apparent time just as the builders of Stonehenge
> did thousands of years ago.
>
> see photo at
>
> http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/watches/7d2b/
>
> Low Carbon Technology Briefings ? Various dates, Dec 2006 to March 2007 at
> BRE, Watford
> A series of briefings on the benefits of low carbon technologies, designed
> to give a general overview of the technologies supported by the Low Carbon
> Buildings Programme.
>
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>
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From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:45:04 -0700
Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
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From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Mar 30 13:11:34 2007
From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:11:34 EDT
Subject: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
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Yo...there's no message attached
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From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Mar 30 14:07:50 2007
From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:07:50 -0500
Subject: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
In-Reply-To: <d39.5b082a4.333e9ec6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.130750.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote:
:Yo...there's no message attached
Yeah, it was attached. (...and thanks Gary! That made for interesting
reading.)
See link:
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/article2403301.ece
Arin
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From heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM Fri Mar 30 14:59:20 2007
From: heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM (tim elliott)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:59:20 -0400
Subject: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.62.0703301306340.12676@unecre.hpuvpntb.rqh>
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.145920.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Well, it's a damn shame DB had to let his ego get in the way...wouldn't
think that would be an issue at this point in one's career.
tim 8>)...
On 3/30/07, Arin Komins <akomins at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote:
>
> :Yo...there's no message attached
>
> Yeah, it was attached. (...and thanks Gary! That made for interesting
> reading.)
>
> See link:
>
> http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/article2403301.ece
>
> Arin
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 15:01:45 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:01:45 +0000
Subject: Brock Mumford
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.190145.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://cdbaby.com/cd/munisteri
If that ain't a cool name I don't know what..... like "Jim Morrison/Dave Brock/Christian Mumford band"
Christian Mumford :-)
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 15:43:09 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:43:09 +0000
Subject: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.194309.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
i cried.... the death of Hawkwind....... media kilt em awl
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Well, it's a damn shame DB had to let his ego get in the way...wouldn't
think that would be an issue at this point in one's career.
tim 8>)...
On 3/30/07, Arin Komins <akomins at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote:
>
> :Yo...there's no message attached
>
> Yeah, it was attached. (...and thanks Gary! That made for interesting
> reading.)
>
> See link:
>
> http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/article2403301.ece
>
> Arin
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From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Mar 30 17:43:31 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:43:31 +0100
Subject: HW: Do Not Panic documentary
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.224331.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
It was a nice documentary on BBC 4. Obviously, footage must be very
thin on the ground, because they appeared to recycle the Top of the
Pops footage many many times. But, the documentary itself was
positive (despite Brock and co. having pulled out) and didn't leave a
bad aftertaste in the mouth, unlike, say, the Carol Clerk book did
for me. What's more, they showed the Top of the Pops Silver Machine
single as a separate short programme afterwards.
According to the TV schedules, the documentary is being repeated
tonight, and probably will be in the near future.
Nicely done!
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 17:57:09 2007
From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:57:09 +0100
Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
In-Reply-To: <758622.74044.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.225709.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
That all sounds very believable; it reflects my own experience of them.
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From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Mar 30 18:09:27 2007
From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:09:27 +0000
Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.220927.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
i just got Ian Abrahams Hawkwind book today- VERY enjoyable, lots of detail and lots of input from so many sources, even quoting BOC-l members, really great for the fans!! Thanks Ian!
it all seems to flow somehow.....
Christian
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That all sounds very believable; it reflects my own experience of them.
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From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Fri Mar 30 20:52:07 2007
From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (IainFerguson at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:52:07 EDT
Subject: HW: Do Not Panic documentary
Message-ID: <FRI.30.MAR.2007.205207.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi
I'd like to say that I thought the program tonight was excellent. Ok, you
can be picky, BUT Hawkwind came across as still cool, And dave's none appearance
seemed very cool by the end.
I think it was a shame that Nik's comments were allowed too much space, i'd
have liked more of huw, simon, lemmy, plus having del, dik, alan powell &
simon king actually speak.
would have loved to have heard from Stacia ( coorrrrrr, some footage tonight
i aint seen before), and Simon King, plus some of the less well known
celebrity persons in the band....
would loved to have had some shite about ginger , but there you go can't
have everything..
Dave your absence was noticed, all through the program, BUT you came out
lovely my boy.
Now do me a fucking favour, and pop round me house for cuppa tea when your
in bristol next, I can offer you nice amounts of calm and love, BUT if your
gonna stay the night , i need 24 hours notice.........
But realise this.... i am gonna badger you to the end of the night about
getting this Space ritual footage DUBBED and released.......Come on... do it now
man, we need this...
By the way , what Kudos that would be, my actual physical embodiment of a
god hav'in a cuppa tea my house chatting about 'osses and the lay of the land,
and getting that fucking film released...
Love peace, and thank your own god for Hawkwind.....
From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Mar 31 03:01:23 2007
From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:01:23 -0700
Subject: Fwd: [Up-Tight] Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
In-Reply-To: <974457.26851.qm@web23015.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.000123.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Thanks for that Christian!
Actually, with marketing hat firmly on for a moment, can I mention that 'Sonic Assassins' publisher SAF now have a new website: www.safpublishing.co.uk
They have a 20% off introductory offer running and a further 10% for people who register on the site for their newsletter. So it's a great chance to pick up one of the remaining SA hardbacks!
But also of interest here they have Polly Marshall's terrific biog of Arthur Brown as well as SAF's reprint of Daevid Allen's Gong Dreaming 1 (lovely edition) and Graham Bennett's comprehensive if not definitive work on Soft Machine ...
Heck, they even have pre-orders for my new book 'Strange Boat - Mike Scott & The Waterboys', due in stock next week!
Advert over, we return to our normal programming ...
Ian
Amphetamine Embalmer <superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK> wrote:
i just got Ian Abrahams Hawkwind book today- VERY enjoyable, lots of detail and lots of input from so many sources, even quoting BOC-l members, really great for the fans!! Thanks Ian!
it all seems to flow somehow.....
Christian
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That all sounds very believable; it reflects my own experience of them.
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From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Mar 31 04:08:22 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:08:22 +0100
Subject: HW: Do Not Panic documentary
In-Reply-To: <c14.14174240.333f0ab7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.090822.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 31 Mar 2007, at 1:52 AM, IainFerguson at AOL.COM wrote:
> I'd like to say that I thought the program tonight was excellent.
> Ok, you
> can be picky, BUT Hawkwind came across as still cool, And dave's
> none appearance
> seemed very cool by the end.
>
> I think it was a shame that Nik's comments were allowed too much
> space, i'd
> have liked more of huw, simon, lemmy, plus having del, dik, alan
> powell &
> simon king actually speak.
>
> would have loved to have heard from Stacia ( coorrrrrr, some
> footage tonight
> i aint seen before), and Simon King, plus some of the less well known
> celebrity persons in the band....
If you read the Independent article link that was posted yesterday
you'll find out that the film maker tried to get input from Stacia,
Simon King, etc., but they just don't want to be interviewed about
Hawkwind. (I don't think Simon King cooperated with the recent crop
of Hawkwind biographies, either.) It also said that the documentary
was made on a very tight budget, so that would probably preclude
travelling far and wide to interview some ex-members.
Maybe a little Nik goes a long way for some people, but for my money
I thought Lemmy and Terry Ollis got more screen space. I was
actually expecting more Nik at the time, but then thought afterwards
that maybe some of his input was cut out after Brock pulled out.
Still, all in all, a very nice documentary.
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From denis at PTI-INC.DE Sat Mar 31 04:24:27 2007
From: denis at PTI-INC.DE (Denis Regenbrecht)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:24:27 +0200
Subject: Hawkwind: They're still feeling mean
In-Reply-To: <758622.74044.qm@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.102427.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Hi,
[BBC4-Hawkwind-Documentary]
did anyone record this documentary in some way?
I'd love to see it, but there's no BBC4in Germany.
(c)IAO
D+R
np: Tool, "10.000 Days"
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Mar 31 06:00:32 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:00:32 +0100
Subject: HW: Those interested in watching the BBC 4 documentary...
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.110032.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
...might like to know that it's now active on the www.uknova.com
BitTorrent site (a great source for British TV programmes, BTW).
Info:
MUSIC: Originals
On: BBC 4 (116)
Date: Friday 30th March 2007
Time: 21:00 to 22:00 (1 hour long)
Hawkwind - Do Not Panic.
The inside story of Hawkwind, one of Britain's wildest acid rock
bands, who emerged from the Ladbroke Grove underground at the end of
the 60s trailing the radicalism of the counter-culture in their wake,
and have been a direct influence on punk, metal, dance and rave. The
film includes interviews with some of the band's enduring legends,
including bassist Lemmy, writer Michael Moorcock, founder members
Terry Ollis, Nik Turner and Mick Slattery, and former managers Doug
Smith and Jeff Dexter.
AVI File Details
========================================
Name.........: Hawkwind - Do Not Panic.avi
Filesize.....: 599 MB (or 614,372 KB or 629,116,928 bytes)
Runtime......: 00:59:21 (89,030 fr)
Video Codec..: XviD
Video Bitrate: 1279 kb/s
Audio Codec..: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3
Audio Bitrate: 128 kb/s (64/ch, stereo) CBR
Frame Size...: 704x400 (1.76:1) [=44:25]
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Mar 31 06:22:24 2007
From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:22:24 -0400
Subject: Aural Innovations: New Kozmik Ken, Alchemical Radio,
and Drool Trough Shows
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.062224.0400.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
http://Aural-Innovations.com
MARCH 31, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS
I've just uploaded new shows from The Kozmik Ken Experience (April 2007),
The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #12), and Drool Trough Radio (show #60).
See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi
and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the
Radio shows page at:
http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html
The Kozmik Ken Experience (April 2007)
Auroris - "Eon" (from Cryogenic Dreams)
La Ira de Dios - "The Sign" (from Hacia el Sol Rojo)
Saturnia - "Organza" (from Muzak)
Imogene - "Wormwood Raindrops" (from Imogene)
Vagtazo Halottkemek - "Where There's No Earth" (from Reconquering Eden 2)
Subgiant - "Plantlife" (from Global Control)
The Exploding Madonna - "Beneath Naked Heaven" (from The Exploding Madonna)
My Sleeping Karma - "Drannel Xu IIop" (from My Sleeping Karma)
Ostinato - "Antiaircraft" (from Chasing the Form)
?resund Space Collective - "Isle of Mogens" (from It's All About Delay)
The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #12)
Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and
features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Space Rock, Progressive
Rock and much much more.
(Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill)
Neosoreskin ? Somethin? Sweet
Sutrobath ? Solo Tonight
Quankmeyer Faergoalzia ? Dissassemblement Of Reality
Tygre Moth & The Invisible Gypsy Band ? Meandering Footpaths
Adrian - Twilight
The Ozric Tentacles ? Ta Knut
Saul Zonana ? Fool On A Bike
The Bitter Little Cider Apples ? Scented Garden
Neosoreskin ? Riding The Giant Fish
The Morrigan ? Joe Cooley?s Reel
Centric Jones ? Let Go Your Course
The Lucky Bishops ? Strange Times
Gazpacho ? Sea Of Tranquility
Joshua Charles ? People Listen
The Dipsomaniacs ? How To Fall
Tygre Moth & The Invisible Gypsy Band ? Another Room
Drool Trough Radio (show #60)
Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the
underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the
next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade
musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels.
J C Bosco ? ?Passing the Time? (from Being In The Energy Funnel)
Unknown Instructors ? ?Tar Baby & the Rising Sun? (from The Master?s Voice)
Super Famicom ? ?What Are The Hills White Like?? (from Everybody Else in My
Band is Romantic)
Sarah Asher ? ?Fish Bowls? (from Balloon on a String EP)
Sympozion ? ?Patterns? (from Kundabuffer)
Andy Xport ? ?Sexed Up? (from Myspace.com page)
Man?s Hate - ?Human Waste? (from Love Me)
Heat From A Dead Star ? ?Black Swans/Re: dux tion? (from The Lighthouse)
Bill & the AntiDepressants ? ?All Dead? (from Project X)
The Rick Ray Band ? ?Substitute For Faith? (from Nothing To Lose)
Robin O?Brien ? ?So Good? (from Fore)
Hilda ? ?Beach of My Dream? (from Hypnofleur)
The Atari Star ? ?Satyricon Salt? (from Aniseed)
Julie Vik ? ?Taken? (from Twist)
Grey Keddie ? ?Moto Verde? (from Grey Keddie)
G.T. Arpe ? ?Grey #4? (from Doused Fires #2)
Rullian ? ?Stacked Bravado? (from Chameleons in Disguise)
Melody Nife ? track 6 (from Sci Fi Sol)
Softwar ? ?The Softwar? (from Softwar)
M ? ?Mother?s Milk? (from L?amour Est Mort)
http://Aural-Innovations.com
From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Mar 31 07:22:27 2007
From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:22:27 -0700
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Myspace Update
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.042227.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Just uploaded the wonderfully atmospheric 'Delusions of Ganja' from Alan's new solo album to his myspace page:
www.myspace.com/alandaveymusic
Ian
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From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 31 07:29:17 2007
From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:29:17 EDT
Subject: HW: Alan Davey Myspace Update
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.072917.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Thanks Ian.
I want to get this album, but I'm moving the week after next so will have to
wait until then.
Steve.
In a message dated 03/31/2007 12:23:14 GMT Standard Time,
ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK writes:
Just uploaded the wonderfully atmospheric 'Delusions of Ganja' from Alan's
new solo album to his myspace page:
www.myspace.com/alandaveymusic
Ian
From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Sat Mar 31 11:34:19 2007
From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:34:19 +0100
Subject: Those interested in watching the BBC 4 documentary...
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.163419.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
Subject: HW: Those interested in watching the BBC 4 documentary...
> ...might like to know that it's now active on the www.uknova.com
> BitTorrent site (a great source for British TV programmes, BTW).
Unfortunatly it won`t let you sign up :(
Any other torrents out there? My recording messed up as the station signal was awful last night here.
Cheers
Si
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Mar 31 12:35:27 2007
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:35:27 +0100
Subject: Those interested in watching the BBC 4 documentary...
In-Reply-To: <163701c773aa$0d0a1e70$6901a8c0@kermitz>
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.173527.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On 31 Mar 2007, at 4:34 PM, Si Halley wrote:
> Subject: HW: Those interested in watching the BBC 4 documentary...
>
>
>> ...might like to know that it's now active on the www.uknova.com
>> BitTorrent site (a great source for British TV programmes, BTW).
>
> Unfortunatly it won`t let you sign up :(
Sorry about that. It seems they are a victim of their own success: I
discovered from the forums that they have suspended signups until
they can sort out their server load problems. (Doctor Who tonight
won't help matters.:)
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Mar 31 17:34:09 2007
From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:34:09 +0000
Subject: HW: Do Not Panic documentary
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.213409.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
The footage they showed a couple of times of Calvert singing Urban Guerilla
in the hat on stage I have seen a couple of times before, surely that isn't
a different gig than the Dunstable '72 where the TOTP Silver Machine wasa
taken from as Urban Guerilla was 73 surely?
Spotted a small clip from the Isle of Wight Festival but nothing from the
Hawklords that Top Ten showed?
Eddie.
From: Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU>
Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List <BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET
Subject: Re: HW: Do Not Panic documentary
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:08:22 +0100
>On 31 Mar 2007, at 1:52 AM, IainFerguson at AOL.COM wrote:
>
>>I'd like to say that I thought the program tonight was excellent. Ok, you
>>can be picky, BUT Hawkwind came across as still cool, And dave's none
>>appearance
>> seemed very cool by the end.
>>
>>I think it was a shame that Nik's comments were allowed too much space,
>>i'd
>>have liked more of huw, simon, lemmy, plus having del, dik, alan powell
>>&
>>simon king actually speak.
>>
>>would have loved to have heard from Stacia ( coorrrrrr, some footage
>>tonight
>>i aint seen before), and Simon King, plus some of the less well known
>>celebrity persons in the band....
>
>If you read the Independent article link that was posted yesterday you'll
>find out that the film maker tried to get input from Stacia, Simon King,
>etc., but they just don't want to be interviewed about Hawkwind. (I don't
>think Simon King cooperated with the recent crop of Hawkwind biographies,
>either.) It also said that the documentary was made on a very tight
>budget, so that would probably preclude travelling far and wide to
>interview some ex-members.
>
>Maybe a little Nik goes a long way for some people, but for my money I
>thought Lemmy and Terry Ollis got more screen space. I was actually
>expecting more Nik at the time, but then thought afterwards that maybe
>some of his input was cut out after Brock pulled out.
>
>Still, all in all, a very nice documentary.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Paul.
>
>e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
>"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
> --- Frank Vincent Zappa
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From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Mar 31 19:07:43 2007
From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:07:43 -0500
Subject: Those interested in watching the BBC 4 documentary...
In-Reply-To: <49E54245-4881-4AB2-BF9B-29924D5EC244@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.31.MAR.2007.180743.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET>
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Paul Mather wrote:
:Subject: Re: Those interested in watching the BBC 4 documentary...
:
:On 31 Mar 2007, at 4:34 PM, Si Halley wrote:
:
:> Subject: HW: Those interested in watching the BBC 4 documentary...
:>
:>
:> > ...might like to know that it's now active on the www.uknova.com
:> > BitTorrent site (a great source for British TV programmes, BTW).
:>
:> Unfortunatly it won`t let you sign up :(
:
:Sorry about that. It seems they are a victim of their own success: I
:discovered from the forums that they have suspended signups until they can sort
:out their server load problems. (Doctor Who tonight won't help matters.:)
:
For those of you who snatched it from the bittorent server already....feel
like uploading it to one of the free http file hosts for us? (mediafire,
megaupload, freefilehost.co.uk, gigasize, etc?)
Arin
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