From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Fri Jun 1 06:09:51 2007 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:09:51 +0200 Subject: [HW] Dave Brock's Jupiter 8 Up for Auction Message-ID: Well,don't think it's Dave's (not shure),I can't remember Dave's having a Jupiter 8,he was more a Korg man I think it's Alan Davey's one,he for sure had one. And the Jupiter 8 the best one??? Around the same time the Phropet 5 from Sequential Cirquits en the Oberheim OB-8 came out at around the same price and they were far superior. I once had a weekend at that time with the three of them and the Jupiter 8 was by far the lesser one.Ok, the Oby wasn't very relaible,but still,best sound.The Phropet 5 had the sweetest sound.Every Jupiter 8 I ever heard has a irritating constant background noise. Anyway wouldn't mind getting Alan's or Dave's. greetings filip ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Kuznick" To: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [HW] Dave Brock's Jupiter 8 Up for Auction > Quoting Denis Regenbrecht : > >> Hi, >> >> just saw this on . >> Thought some of the other synth-guys on the list might be >> interested... ;-) >> >> I _think_ I won't try to auction for it for various reasons (don't >> need yet another synth, money, ...), yet it's very tempting.... >> *must not succumb to gear-acquisition-syndrome anymore* > > Yeah, as awesome a synth as it is, a JP-8 is expensive enough (about $2500 > on > ebay, more if it's MIDI-ed) without adding the "owned-by-Brock" tax to it. > But > it really is one of the best synths ever. > > PS I love how he has the note names written onto the keys. :-) > > -- > David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu > "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light > from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, > I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." > Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 1 01:47:35 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 00:47:35 -0500 Subject: (off) Mary Bruce contact info Message-ID: been dumping my woes via telephone on Mary B gremlins of unknown intent seem to have decided she's not to be on this list she asked me to put up her email the names Scott H and Bill S have come up a few times (but she'd love to hear from anyone, etc) here: maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jun 1 09:09:13 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:09:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: Litmus in Hitchin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 11:41:55AM +0100, trev typed out: > No, you don't want to buy their album... you want to buy mine I'm pretty sure I already did, Trev :-) I like `Yer All Gonna Die' best. > (their guitarist has a girls email address) That may well be true though; on the other hand I ran into him at a beer festival in a real ale pub once, so I think it's all a bit more complex than that :-) -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Fri Jun 1 09:57:39 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:57:39 -0400 Subject: [HW] Dave Brock's Jupiter 8 Up for Auction In-Reply-To: <003601c7a434$ffdc97d0$0202a8c0@filip> Message-ID: Quoting Filip Vanhuyse : > Well,don't think it's Dave's (not shure),I can't remember Dave's having a > Jupiter 8,he was more a Korg man > I think it's Alan Davey's one,he for sure had one. > > And the Jupiter 8 the best one??? I said "one of the best". That's a pretty big difference. > Around the same time the Phropet 5 from > Sequential Cirquits en the Oberheim OB-8 came out at around the same price > and they were far superior. In what ways were they "far superior"? They were all quite different in many ways. They are also great synths for sure. > I once had a weekend at that time with the three of them and the Jupiter 8 > was by far the lesser one.Ok, the Oby wasn't very relaible,but still,best > sound.The Phropet 5 had the sweetest sound.Every Jupiter 8 I ever heard has > a irritating constant background noise. I have never heard any such thing, nor have I heard anyone else ever complain about that. "best" sound, "sweetest" sound. It sounds like this is becoming a "religious debate". -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Jun 1 10:57:11 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:57:11 +0000 Subject: HW: Hope to see some of you in Allentown!!! Message-ID: Hi everyone, I've made arrangements to have the weekend of the 23rd FREE and am hoping to frive up to Allentown on the day of the gig..Anyone know if there are any campsites within say 10 mile of the town????Peace, Mike From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jun 2 04:45:19 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:45:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest Bands In-Reply-To: <200705031343.l43Dh87q023793@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 02:43:08PM +0100, M Holmes typed out: > Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > > The Quantum Technicians of Spaceship Hawkwind. You can know where they > > are, or how fast they're moving, but not both! > > Are they Quantum Mechanics then? Somewhere I hope my partner still has a cartoon that used to hang on her fridge entitled `Quantum Mechanics'. It had a large box marked `Atom Smasher', with an `Out of Order' sign hung on it, and on one side a thin balding type in glasses and a labcoat, and on the the other two workmen with overalls and toolbox, and the captions read: "Well, I dunno Prof, could be yer particles, could be yer waveform..." "... we won't know till we 'ave a look." This has caused susceptible physicists to be incapable of speech for some minutes, I tell you. Yours, Jon ObCD: Blur - _Blur_ (and why not, eh?) -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Sat Jun 2 08:12:05 2007 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (Space Rock Spectacular 2007) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 13:12:05 +0100 Subject: Space Rock Spectacular 2007 Message-ID: The Spectacular 2007 takes place on Saturday October 20th in Oxfordshire and features: Underground Zero, Dr Hasbeen, Assassins of Silence, Peyote Mothership, Xoo and DJ Kozmik Ken. Special guests so far confirmed are Harvey Bainbridge and Huw Lloyd Langton Posters (with all the details) available to download here: Hi Res version: http://i65.photobuc ket.com/albums/ h237/bicesterdav e/spacerockposte rhi_res.jpg and a web quality version: http://i65.photobuc ket.com/albums/ h237/bicesterdav e/spacerockposte rweb-1.jpg From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jun 3 03:43:22 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock, Alchemical Radio & Improv/Experimental Radio Shows Message-ID: [NOTE: If you would like to be removed from this list, just reply to this message and we'll take care of it. Otherwise, please forward this announcement to any friends or lists you think would be interested. Help us spread the word!!!] http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 3, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #177), The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #18), and The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #49). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #177) Litmus - "Psychic Projection" (from Planetfall) Bedtime Story - "Little Magic Mushrooms" (from Bedtime Story) Maserati - "Show Me The Season" (from Inventions for the New Season) The Great Imperial Yo-Yo - "Sticklebrick" (from Chicken Island) In The Labyrinth - "Catch a Cloud" (from Dryad) Peter Lindahl & Friends - "Syrran" (from Psychedelic Sweden) Vert:x - "Acidic Clone" (from A.F.M.O.M.A.H.E.) Lek - "Demon" (from Giant World Knowledge Bliss Control) Love Tank - "Home" (from Bestial Glow) Lloyd Page - "XT Rolled Oats"/"MRDMOMBBDB WhoaSplatBang" (From Elemental Asylum) Ethereal - "Into the Void" (from Beyond Neptune) Red Octopus - "Savage Journey" (from Myspace page) The Aurapool - "Mindgaps" (from The Aurapool Live at the Wallflower, 2-24-07) Griddle - "Then Their Heads Exploded" (from Klimty Favela) Amp - "Remember" (from All Of Yesterday Tomorrow) Igra Staklenih Perli - "Putovanje U Plavo"/ "Majestetski Kraj" (from Igra Staklenih Perli) The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #18) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Space Rock, Progressive Rock and much much more. (Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill) Nothing 2 Declare - Fallen Angel Daevid Allen's University Of Errors - Earthbound Hilda - Smile Dave Corwin - Break The Mountain The Dogstar Poets - Pashion Play Daniele Brusaschetto - Movements Milo - Minimalist Life In A Blender - Sex With Cops Centric Jones - Apollo 4.32 Saturnia - Sunflower Peter Johnston - Be Your Own Best Friend Bronze - Statue In The Stone Kwabena - Freeman Rick Ray - Power Gone Mad John Bartles And Arpad - Leviathan Lullaby The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #49) The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown was created to give an audio spotlight to the exciting improvisational, experimental, and general avant-garde rock & jazz we receive in the Aural Innovations mailbox. Chicago Underground Trio - "Transcendence" (from Chronicle) Various Artists - "Your Life Has Been Measured For You" (excerpt) (from Your Life Has Been Measured For You) Various Artists - "Your Life Has Been Sectored For You 3" (from Your Life Has Been Sectored For You) Ross Hammond's Teakayo Mission - "54321 Contact" (from Ross Hammond's Teakayo Mission) The Zanzibar Snails - "Indignity" (from Introdewcing.) Bret Hart & Maurizio Bianchi - "Alpha Dog Days" (excerpt) (from Beta Max Out) Michael Vernusky - "Autumnal i" (Resonance: Steel Pan in the 21st Century) Michael Vernusky - "Means and Meditiations" (from Blood That Sees the Light) Western Automatic - "The Burlap Tundra" (from Crows of the World Vol. 1) The Mighty Vitamins - "Get A Good Job" (from Take-Out) Bill Horist and Marron - "Shizuka No Umi" (from Sleep Hammer) Various Artists - "Burnish Misplaced Empathy" (excerpt) (from Masters of the Ungentlemanly Art) Uncle Woody Sullender & Kevin Davis - "Knocking Dust" (from The Tempest is Over) http://Aural-Innovations.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jun 3 21:46:13 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 20:46:13 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Motorhead "Best Of" wanted Message-ID: of all the life-threatening ultra-collectibles that I had stolen/removed from my grasp, one thing that I couldn't believe was gone was a compilation of Motorhead (I think just a "best of"), but it's identifiable by a basic blue overall color and has a motorcycle-engine head on the cover....I believe it's on Roadrunner Netherlands or Roadracer, but I really liked that one and if somebody has it and will trade with a Hawkwind or Related item , DO TELL (got a couple MH extras too) I've still got some older stock brand new, .......also, I'm looking for a mint booklet to the EMI original "On Parole" CD, would buy whole CD if blowout-bargain...... delta-wave at hotmail.com OR insect.brain at gmail.com mike c trivia-it was my uk fame cd which was copied to make the USA version.(On Paraole)...(which didn't sound as good, hmmm) (and I had to buy another UK one, mine was lost) where's my royalty Ian??? (he _DID_ give it a nice package!!!) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jun 4 04:35:06 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:35:06 +0100 Subject: NIK: Kubano Kickasso (Re: Glastonbury SS info for Capt. FoFP + others?) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610705031503n2780e510m12bbafa613e2955b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 05:03:41PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > also, not sure if this crowd even really wants this type of stuff on the > board, but whilst at it.... > can someone tell me if Nik's Kubanno Kickasso is a CDR standard, with > handwritten label? (just tilte) > or is mine special? (which could be the same as a reference to a mentally > impaired person) > I told Nik I was God basically, and now I think I may be getting the silent > treatment > I told him I was prepared for his "sorcery" in that it wouldn't play on my > donated boom-box > (kinda nervy considering no money was sent) Mike, Nik was selling these at the Inner City Pompadours gig a few years back, as I recall. I nearly bought one but got the first Deviants album instead, because the stall was loaded with deleted Captain trips stuff and I figured if Nik was burning CD-Rs of his albums they'd be easy enough to find again. Not the full Kollector bit I realise. Anyway, what you describe sounds like one of those. As I understood it at the time, the deal was that the actual release of the disc was held up because parts of the band weren't happy with it and wanted to re-record their parts. Nik got so fed up/skint waiting that he was burning these `pre-release' CD-Rs meanwhile. As far as I know though the re-recording never happened and the music is the same on these discs as on the `real deal', which has a sleeve and artwork and all those other trappings of conformity. Have not yet got this either, so no Kollector points to me at all this round. Nota bene I no longer have any idea where I learnt all this gossip--possibly Andy Garibaldi but it seems a little unfair to pin it to him now--and I can't rule out that it was a spontaneous creation of some bored neurons in my over-busy skull. FWIW though, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 4 05:13:32 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 04:13:32 -0500 Subject: Kubano-K/Glastonbury Goldmine Original/ My Poor Unwanted BBC CDR Message-ID: to Jon + Crew as for Kubano, the tracks do display on my computer and it has Nik's writing, so bottom-feeder I've become, it'll always be Kick-End to me. Re: My clean Glasontury w/Bob....I want to remove weird stuff Kevin added and put the original "Bicycle" If i copy this does anybody care, and do we have a whipper-snapper for a lightning fast however cheap artist?? up to you people, but I say one last time, my CDR would be the last to go where other releases are concerned.... and Jon ....thanks is less than what I mean for the informative input love mike and I don't joke with that (regarding all, even the mean biting type) m From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 4 10:10:52 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:10:52 +0100 Subject: Kubano-K/Glastonbury Goldmine Original/ My Poor Unwanted BBC CDR In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Mon, 4 Jun 2007 04:13:32 -0500 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > to Jon + Crew > as for Kubano, the tracks do display on my computer and it has Nik's > writing, so bottom-feeder I've become, it'll always be Kick-End to me. > Re: My clean Glasontury w/Bob....I want to remove weird stuff Kevin added > and put the original "Bicycle" > If i copy this does anybody care, and do we have a whipper-snapper for a > lightning fast however cheap artist?? I'm interested. FoFP From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jun 4 10:54:51 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 14:54:51 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK 'featured band' at Free Musician list for the next 2 days!!! Message-ID: Greetings friends, SLOTERDIJK is being featured on the 'Free Musician list' for the next 2 days. Check it out, and register your own band on this excellent service page!!!! Peace, Mike Burro ( SLOTERDIJK ) http://www.FreeMusicianList.com _________________________________________________________________ Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play now?it's FREE! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 5 08:17:26 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 07:17:26 -0500 Subject: 1972 BBC HW Freakout on CDR Message-ID: Boc-L figurehead wrote: >I'm interested. >FoFP I think you'll like it mike..... unfortunately my "new" friend Sam, who hates people (including himself, I suspect), thinks his time collecting movies and music renders him too busy for "psychic vampires" such as myself who have no mom (he's 57), and no money "scam" going, to be bothered with me ......he'd be perfect to burn the CDR.....I'll do my damdest meantime, but I will see him at the end of month I will send it to you with lightning speed as soon as I get it made (and I WILL) ps-he thinks HW sucks (because they are rock), he's a (retired) Jazz drummer with WAYYYYY too many cymbals..... he likes Gong, Gentle Giant, John Zorn,,,,,,,, I caught him with a snapper reissue of OT "Jurassic Shift" in his car that he tried to say I gave him, and probably didn't remember doing so (I ate all his Klonopin)...but it's bullshit......that CD has a bonus track.......if he does anything like that again *HE's DEAD!!! no more Sam* *and for the record, to any doubters.....Brenda Johns, the lady who's fingers did the typing and work selling my Hawkwind + related collection on eBay....she's DEAD!!! (would only be about 44 or 45 now)* *too bad, so sad* mc From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jun 6 14:04:47 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:04:47 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: test From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jun 6 14:07:07 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:07:07 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Greetings I am baaaaack! Mary Bruce From heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 14:21:04 2007 From: heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM (tim elliott) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:21:04 -0400 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6/6/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > test > -- tim 8>)... http://heathcliff13.blogspot.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 15:03:15 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:03:15 -0500 Subject: test Message-ID: press......... Warrior On The Edge Of Time..........Presswell records USA 1975 (MINT!) (I wonder if those laser turntables will make all old scratched LP's sound perfect again....man I would love that to compare the sound of the different pressings) it's going in whatever hole-in-the-ground my dead carcass is chucked into (the test-press) has a sound all it's own, not like Atco press say, I bought "Codename HW 2000" or whatever it is, again, yesterday.....wheres my plastic wallet dammit???? well??? BTW- I'm not really a killer......no need but I am an idiot, been waiting years to find a cheap copy of MH "Inferno", and it happened yesterday........between that and the Venom, I got this funny idea that throwing a Heineken bottle at my kitchen window was "the thing:" to do.........I guess 20 bucks ain't so bad though...WTF was I thinking??? nevermind..and BTW...just wanted to comment that I am amazed at the music many of you get to take in......I couldn't even keep track of a paper list of all that music much less owning it.... my swiped OT "Jurassic Shift" has been replaced with an IRS copy...no bonus cut, but to my thinking the IRS issues would be the more collectible OT.........maybe a boring subject, dunno, but will ask if anyone can tell me which CD's were issued by IRS as I seem to have trouble finding that info...also, am I correct about the collectibility of that label?? so whats with them anyway? all the members left and Ed's got his wife in now???? mc ps -"Fear Of Blank Planet" doesn't do a lot for me...nice to see Alex turn up tho..... On 6/6/07, tim elliott wrote: > > On 6/6/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > > > test > > > > > > -- > tim 8>)... > http://heathcliff13.blogspot.com > From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Wed Jun 6 15:37:07 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 15:37:07 -0400 Subject: test In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706061203v2e668a2ax7c754dc651b6beef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Quoting mike coleman : > OT.........maybe a boring subject, dunno, but will ask if anyone can tell me > which CD's were issued by IRS as I seem to have trouble finding that > info... Don't know if this is complete, but: http://www.discogs.com/label/I.R.S.+Records > mc > ps -"Fear Of Blank Planet" doesn't do a lot for me...nice to see Alex turn > up tho..... I need to listen to it some more. It definitely hasn't grabbed me as much as when they played the entire album live as part of the "preview" shows last fall with ProjeKt 6. That was an amazing show. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Wed Jun 6 16:11:57 2007 From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 14:11:57 -0600 Subject: OFF: Re: test In-Reply-To: <20070606153707.adc00oswgck888gc@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: I've seen Porcupine Tree twice, but not ProjeKct Six. How was it? Guido > I need to listen to it some more. It definitely hasn't grabbed me as much as > when they played the entire album live as part of the "preview" shows last fall > with ProjeKt 6. That was an amazing show. > > -- > David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu > "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light > from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, > I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." > Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG > From tim at KALYR.COM Wed Jun 6 16:22:41 2007 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:22:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <20070606153707.adc00oswgck888gc@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: David Kuznick wrote: >>ps -"Fear Of Blank Planet" doesn't do a lot for me...nice to see Alex turn >>up tho..... > > > I need to listen to it some more. It definitely hasn't grabbed me as much as > when they played the entire album live as part of the "preview" shows last fall > with ProjeKt 6. That was an amazing show. Took me a couple of listens to get into, but once it clicked, it was my album of the year so far, by quite a long way. -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Wed Jun 6 16:29:53 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:29:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: test In-Reply-To: <4667150D.3050103@spiralrealm.com> Message-ID: Quoting Guido Vacano : > I've seen Porcupine Tree twice, but not ProjeKct Six. How was it? Mixed. On the one hand it was great to hear Robert "shred" after seeing him do Soundscapes a number of times recently (I actually worked a Soundscapes show for him as a Four Quarter Maintainer/personal security; check the credits of Love Cannot Bear :-), plus hearing him use some of the classic "Frippertronics" soloing tone was a nice surprise too. Adrian's contributions I found to be a mixed bag. On many of the pieces he had this annoying repetitive bass sequence being triggered by each drum hit that quickly grew tiresome; I think it would have worked better with just drums and guitar. But after all, it was mostly improvised and they were experimenting. I think it was the weakest of all the Projekts, but there were still some great moments. You can get some teasers here: http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=23&show=1111 "Time Grove in Boston" shows what I'm talking about with the bass thing. I think the pieces without it are much better. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 17:23:35 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:23:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <46671791.2040803@kalyr.com> Message-ID: For me Porcupine Tree lost it a few years ago. The last fully rounded album they did was Stupid Dream. Each album since has had at least one track that I would call real Tree but Fear Of A Blank Planet has left me cold. I'm pleased Steven Wilson and co have finally found acceptance but for me they lost the roots of what the band was originally about. Perhaps they progressed too far for the original fans. Those that saw them at Brixton with Hawkwind saw the real Tree for me. Steve (former Porcupine Tree fanzine Voyage 35 producer) On 6/6/07, Tim Hall wrote: > > David Kuznick wrote: > > >>ps -"Fear Of Blank Planet" doesn't do a lot for me...nice to see Alex > turn > >>up tho..... > > > > > > I need to listen to it some more. It definitely hasn't grabbed me as > much as > > when they played the entire album live as part of the "preview" shows > last fall > > with ProjeKt 6. That was an amazing show. > > Took me a couple of listens to get into, but once it clicked, it was my > album of the year so far, by quite a long way. > > -- Tim > http://www.kalyr.com/weblog > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Wed Jun 6 17:39:39 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:39:39 -0400 Subject: The Return Of Bridget Wishart Message-ID: [posted for Steve Palmer] Posted by: "dekray" dekray at yahoo.com dekray Tue Jun 5, 2007 8:06 am (PST) Hi guys and gals, I haven't checked in here for a few months, but I have some news for you. Over the last few months, Bridget Wishart has been working on the new Mooch album "Dr Silbury's Liquid Brainstem Band". Mooch, as some of you may know, have been providing psychedelic sounds from the UK Underground since 1992, and have released quite a few albums now, including 2005's "Gaiaspace". Anyway, Bridget and I have collaborated on three tracks. The style is spacerock with lots of synths. Bridget wrote the lyrics on all three tracks, and also created the melody for one track. I've just posted MP3 excerpts of the new album on my MySpace site, so if you want to check out the music set your browser to: http://www.myspace.com/moochspacey Release date is the summer solstice! More info to follow, STEVE... From tim at KALYR.COM Wed Jun 6 18:23:56 2007 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 23:23:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Steve Freight wrote: > For me Porcupine Tree lost it a few years ago. > > The last fully rounded album they did was Stupid Dream. Each album > since has had at least one track that I would call real Tree but Fear > Of A Blank Planet has left me cold. > > I'm pleased Steven Wilson and co have finally found acceptance but > for me they lost the roots of what the band was originally about. > Perhaps they progressed too far for the original fans. Those that saw > them at Brixton with Hawkwind saw the real Tree for me. > > Steve (former Porcupine Tree fanzine Voyage 35 producer) I suppose it's inevitable that if a band changes and evolves there's going to be a certain turnover of fans. The alternative is for a band to release endless retreads of the same album (Threshold, I'm looking at you!). That approach will keep the existing fanbase happy, but it's not a good way to grow support. And it's ultimately boring. Why keep buying albums that sound just the same as the ones you've got already? I lovw both "Stupid Dream" and the stuff they're doing now. It's not better or worse, just... different. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 18:17:24 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:17:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6/6/07, Steve Freight wrote: > >>For me Porcupine Tree lost it a few years ago. > > >>The last fully rounded album they did was Stupid Dream > *I totally agree.....I seem to remember reading reviews about Stupid Dream > five years ago (almost)?? being too commercial, etc...in fact I _THINK_ it > was Jon Jarrett (which is a tribute of sorts to you , Jon, if correct, that > I remember) but for me, I think Stupid Dream is my favorite* * I tend to be very forgiving of artists, especially of Steven's caliber, because he is so great it is just mindblowing, and if he never did another thing I'd never forget* * I was just so happy for him to see he made the major label........(they made)* *Good god am I glad I still have all my original PT CD's.......it looks to me like he's not only razor-clever with the music but with the marketing as well.......it looks downright DANGEROUS to collect them.....you'd need to buy each album in about 6 different versions right???* *I have only played the new one about 3 times and indeed it may still impact me, not concerned though....I'll pick up anything by those geniuses so long as I can afford* *it still ain't (isn't, don't know whats with me and the "aints" today) Hawkwind though!!!!! * *Is the Radioactive Toy promo CD single one of the collecters bombs??? I had 2, but at least "F*ckhead" Eric Johnson (who _is_ lucky I have not removed his limbs, I'm still debating) left me one* *did the mystery of the name Porcupine Tree ever get "solved"???* *mc* From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 20:56:20 2007 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 00:56:20 +0000 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706061517m27ca22e6keefa45d9107f6652@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: oh well, an album title that pays homage to Public Enemys finest hour cant be ALL bad ;) >From: mike coleman >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:17:24 -0500 > >On 6/6/07, Steve Freight wrote: > >> >>For me Porcupine Tree lost it a few years ago. >> >> >>The last fully rounded album they did was Stupid Dream >>*I totally agree.....I seem to remember reading reviews about Stupid Dream >>five years ago (almost)?? being too commercial, etc...in fact I _THINK_ it >>was Jon Jarrett (which is a tribute of sorts to you , Jon, if correct, >>that >>I remember) but for me, I think Stupid Dream is my favorite* > >* I tend to be very forgiving of artists, especially of Steven's caliber, >because he is so great it is just mindblowing, and if he never did another >thing I'd never forget* >* I was just so happy for him to see he made the major label........(they >made)* >*Good god am I glad I still have all my original PT CD's.......it looks to >me like he's not only razor-clever with the music but with the marketing as >well.......it looks downright DANGEROUS to collect them.....you'd need to >buy each album in about 6 different versions right???* >*I have only played the new one about 3 times and indeed it may still >impact >me, not concerned though....I'll pick up anything by those geniuses so long >as I can afford* >*it still ain't (isn't, don't know whats with me and the "aints" >today) Hawkwind though!!!!! * >*Is the Radioactive Toy promo CD single one of the collecters bombs??? I >had 2, but at least "F*ckhead" Eric Johnson (who _is_ lucky I have not >removed his limbs, I'm still debating) left me one* >*did the mystery of the name Porcupine Tree ever get "solved"???* >*mc* _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 7 10:10:10 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:10:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Apology Last post, Glastonbury Silver Machine Calvert Message-ID: Digital Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <17d80c610705021316hed480cah809759f6265a735e at mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:16:57PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > ps_ I actually forgot how dangerous you Boc'L inhabitants were, what with > your virtues and attributes We are full of 'em, so we are to be sure, every one of us a different combination of trivia. But not so dangerous surely. > makes sense that I'd be here tho' It does, I think. Now if we can get Doug Pearson posting again, it can be a proper *cabal*. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 6 21:07:07 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:07:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: *so now at age 42, I find out about Public Enemy* *I should have figured mentioning the PT was serious* *the way I see it, is I was just analyzing cross-breeding of the finest* *I am a sham anyway, as after all this it dawned on me, I don't have "dead wing" or whatever that was* *I'll get it* *thanks for a path* *m* On 6/6/07, pete howe wrote: > > oh well, an album title that pays homage to Public Enemys finest hour cant > be ALL bad ;) > > > > >From: mike coleman > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >Subject: Re: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet > >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:17:24 -0500 > > > >On 6/6/07, Steve Freight wrote: > > > >> >>For me Porcupine Tree lost it a few years ago. > >> > >> >>The last fully rounded album they did was Stupid Dream > >>*I totally agree.....I seem to remember reading reviews about Stupid > Dream > >>five years ago (almost)?? being too commercial, etc...in fact I _THINK_ > it > >>was Jon Jarrett (which is a tribute of sorts to you , Jon, if correct, > >>that > >>I remember) but for me, I think Stupid Dream is my favorite* > > > >* I tend to be very forgiving of artists, especially of Steven's > caliber, > >because he is so great it is just mindblowing, and if he never did > another > >thing I'd never forget* > >* I was just so happy for him to see he made the major label........(they > >made)* > >*Good god am I glad I still have all my original PT CD's.......it looks > to > >me like he's not only razor-clever with the music but with the marketing > as > >well.......it looks downright DANGEROUS to collect them.....you'd need to > >buy each album in about 6 different versions right???* > >*I have only played the new one about 3 times and indeed it may still > >impact > >me, not concerned though....I'll pick up anything by those geniuses so > long > >as I can afford* > >*it still ain't (isn't, don't know whats with me and the "aints" > >today) Hawkwind though!!!!! * > >*Is the Radioactive Toy promo CD single one of the collecters bombs??? I > >had 2, but at least "F*ckhead" Eric Johnson (who _is_ lucky I have not > >removed his limbs, I'm still debating) left me one* > >*did the mystery of the name Porcupine Tree ever get "solved"???* > >*mc* > > _________________________________________________________________ > Play your part in making history - Email Britain! > http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 7 11:39:17 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:39:17 +0100 Subject: V.Michael Smith vs Aural Innovations In-Reply-To: <17d80c610705081258t1684e5ci2b23adf1cec21876@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:58:01PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > *I am on a forum elswehere discussing nightshade and making one's own > cigarettes, etc, and almost everyone there uses aliases....I find this > bizarre, as I am used to you fine people, etc* > *that list SURELY isn't comparable in size to this one...WHY ARE PEOPLE SO > AFRAID to post their name????* I think this is partly a matter of fashion. I think both that these days, when you have to register with a forum on the web with some kind of username, it's kind of accepted that you post under that username because it appears on your posts. But even when I was just starting to use the web the idea of a `handle' that you used online rather than your real-name, like a CB radio handle, was there, and some people did. BOC-L is kind of older than that, and so are most of its users I guess. And then the kind of groups who roll their own drugs so often don't like to use their birth names anyway. The other thing of course is that if they're holding down supposedly-responsible jobs or expect to, they may not want it to be possible to Google them and come up with their name next to a `smoke your own St John's Wort' recipe... Just guesses though, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 7 08:55:27 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 07:55:27 -0500 Subject: (Off Musical Topic) Mental Retardation? Message-ID: Dear Boc-L-ers: does the fact that I pretty much post at will and post a lot indicate that I suffer from some form of mental impairment??? I myself never understood lurking, as to me it seems "sneaky" and even "moochy" (hahaha) but I have very much respect for so much restraint that so many have do I just make an ass out of myself, or is it ok?? and BTW-my modded Ultimatic with the Arbro Inc. acetal plastic cutter and the precision H-Link is better than your Ultimatic mc From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 7 10:56:47 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:56:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Apology Last post, Glastonbury Silver Machine Calvert-Porcupine T add-on Message-ID: established citizen wrote: <<< It does, I think. Now if we can get Doug Pearson posting again, it can be a proper *cabal*. Yours, >>> *JON* Maybe Mumford can get him, he's got a line..... I wonder if Doug would accept/would want/doesn't have, a misspressed Spacebrock, but a one-of-a-kind Nova-Drive issue, with inverse art??? hmmm listening to FOBP.....I think I figured out what throws me,,,,,it's the introduction of a certain type of metal riffing that showed up on "in absentia" that I am just not accustomed to looking to PT for....... thank you Jon mc ps-I want Dave Brock to start posting lots, and especially find out if he wants me to leave earth > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 7 12:35:46 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 17:35:46 +0100 Subject: (Off Musical Topic) Mental Retardation? In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Thu, 7 Jun 2007 07:55:27 -0500 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > Dear Boc-L-ers: > does the fact that I pretty much post at will and post a lot indicate that I > suffer from some form of mental impairment??? No, that's when you spend your time to obsessively use moviemaker software to produce porn movies involving cartoon TV characters or bits of Lego (tm). FoFP From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 7 12:40:57 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 17:40:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <466733FC.2080801@kalyr.com> Message-ID: I agree with you Tim, I'm not after retreads and do get heartily sick of bands that do this. What I am saying is that the CORE of what Porcupine Tree were has changed and this is what has alienated me. The direction they are now following is one that I personally don't like. They do try to put at least one track on each album that appeals to the original fans such as Arriving Somewhere on the last album, but the general direction is away from what, imo, made them tick. Hawkwind have evolved and not lost that core as far as I am concerned,but from posts about TMTYL and TMTYF it appears that they have to some on this list, and perhaps this is why there have been these negative vibes recently. Steve On 6/6/07, Tim Hall wrote: > > Steve Freight wrote: > > > For me Porcupine Tree lost it a few years ago. > > > > The last fully rounded album they did was Stupid Dream. Each album > > since has had at least one track that I would call real Tree but Fear > > Of A Blank Planet has left me cold. > > > > I'm pleased Steven Wilson and co have finally found acceptance but > > for me they lost the roots of what the band was originally about. > > Perhaps they progressed too far for the original fans. Those that saw > > them at Brixton with Hawkwind saw the real Tree for me. > > > > Steve (former Porcupine Tree fanzine Voyage 35 producer) > > I suppose it's inevitable that if a band changes and evolves there's > going to be a certain turnover of fans. The alternative is for a band > to release endless retreads of the same album (Threshold, I'm looking at > you!). That approach will keep the existing fanbase happy, but it's not > a good way to grow support. And it's ultimately boring. Why keep buying > albums that sound just the same as the ones you've got already? > > I lovw both "Stupid Dream" and the stuff they're doing now. It's not > better or worse, just... different. > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 7 12:48:28 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:48:28 -0500 Subject: V.Michael Smith carries Trevor Message-ID: Jon, I am the "out in the open" mishma respecter of the lot........nightshade encompasses tobacco......there did however seem to be a couple hiding from ex's and such..... it's taken me months to gain a foothold there the Ultimatic masterplan did not fail me ps-*I've got a couple extra CD copies of the VERY FIRST pressing of JT's ICU "NOW yOU gET YOUR aSS KICKED" with the upside-down spine printing that I will take offers on starting at 2 bills or I'll trade for the haWKWIND dRAGONFLY/jA lp.....i NEED TO TOTALLY CRUSH MUENSTER* PS-hAWKWIND uPSIDE dOWN NEVER SOUNDED FRESHER iMHO On 6/7/07, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 02:58:01PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > *I am on a forum elswehere discussing nightshade and making one's own > > cigarettes, etc, and almost everyone there uses aliases....I find this > > bizarre, as I am used to you fine people, etc* > > *that list SURELY isn't comparable in size to this one...WHY ARE PEOPLE > SO > > AFRAID to post their name????* > > I think this is partly a matter of fashion. I think both that > these days, when you have to register with a forum on the web with some > kind of username, it's kind of accepted that you post under that > username because it appears on your posts. But even when I was just > starting to use the web the idea of a `handle' that you used online > rather than your real-name, like a CB radio handle, was there, and some > people did. BOC-L is kind of older than that, and so are most of its > users I guess. And then the kind of groups who roll their own drugs so > often don't like to use their birth names anyway. > > The other thing of course is that if they're holding down > supposedly-responsible jobs or expect to, they may not want it to be > possible to Google them and come up with their name next to a `smoke > your own St John's Wort' recipe... Just guesses though, yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 7 18:20:30 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:20:30 +0100 Subject: NIK/OFF: Litmus & Inner City Unit, The Standard, Walthamstow, 11/05/07 Message-ID: I realise this review is a bit late, but so is all my mail at the moment, and there haven't been any others. I stuck this up on a BBS I use, which is why it contains explanations BOC-L don't need. This is going to be another review where I hope Trev will forgive me; I thought he was badly let down by a band of which he was by a long way the best part. But this is what I wrote. "I had worries about this gig, because since I last saw them Litmus had shed their keyboardist and I didn't know what the new one would be like, and because Inner City Unit, the 80s punk band of ex-Hawkwind saxophonist Nik Turner, while brilliant at the time, have always been rather awful since they started sporadically reforming and would be playing with two original members max. But because I wanted to see what would happen with Litmus, and also buy their new album, and because [another user of the BBS] was also going to make it, I happened along. "Litmus has in fact not yet acquired a new keyboardist at all, which made them sound rather different. They had more space for guitar, whereas before the guitar had often been fighting against the actual tune; on the other hand, now on several tracks big parts of the actual tune were missing. The jams, of which there are usually lots, were more successful than before--both bass-player and guitarist separately told me that now they're carrying more of it by themselves they're generally concentrating more--but the setlist oddly restricted by what they could so as a four-piece. So there were only two tracks from the new album, two things from before the first one and a cover. The setlist was: Destroy the Mothership! [which was awesome for the extra attack] Tempest Twinstar [with a long and brilliant jam] Sonic Light [with a fluffed intro and half the tune missing, dull] (Theta Wave) Inductor [which Martin said they only do because I moan if they don't, well, it was good so I don't care] White Light/White Heat [which was OK, and segued into a new number whose title I don't know yet, which sounded like a lost Hawkwind track from long ago--I mean even more than their stuff usually does] Ejection [Hawkwind cover, solid] Evil [very old song which still needs to be part of something bigger I think, but whose riff is still the absolute killer] "And that was it! Short and odd, but mostly well-played, and it's good that they are confident enough to do this kind of holding performance until the line-up can be healed, but, at the same time, this was sort of only part of a show. "Inner City Unit took the stage with two synth players, both scrounged from Nik's lacklustre Hawkwind nostalgia act Space Ritual, Judge Trev and Nik from ICU proper, the drummer from Nik's Cuban jazz outfit The Fantastic All-Stars, and Nazar Ali Khan who was sucked into ICU for the reformation having previously been the band's graphic designer. This was not an auspicious start, and they followed it up by doing one of the few gigs so bad that I've left early rather than listen to any more. I'll try and be brief. "Nazar cannot play bass live. There was a time when he was just completely useless and I recognise that he has got a lot better. Unfortunately, he has got a lot better by practising soloes and licks in his bedroom, not by playing with a band. He ruined almost every number that had any kind of change in, simply because when he hit the change he would charge off at a different speed to the one he'd been using, oblivious to the rest of the band who then had to try and match up. This in turn made the drummer, whom I've seen be very good before, more or less useless because he kept being unfooted and so played everything safe. Trev, on guitar and possibly the only person in the band who knew how the songs actually went (Nik's recall of this sort of detail often being a bit sketchy--though actually he only came in out of place twice that I spotted and then at least he was 4 bars out so that the band could cover it relatively easily, and though he did do one sax solo in the wrong key that was mostly because Nazar had already got out of key and Nik followed him rather than Trev), slowly took more and more control over the course of the gig. He'd started too quiet, and too respectful of the other players, and by the time I gave up and left he at least had become impressively aggressive and shreddy, but since apart from Nik the rest of the band weren't picking up on it that didn't really save matters. And whenever there was some energy actually going, the hapless swooshes and sputters of the synth players, of whom they *maybe* needed one, sucked it away by destroying and puncturing the rhythm and drowning the tune. In summary, Nik and Trev were good; but they'd have been incomparably better had they been busking outside by themselves. I couldn't stand seeing what had been good songs once so uselessly murdered and left well before the end. Sorry. I shall need considerable reassurance before I risk another ICU performance I'm afraid. "The setlist such as I saw was: Watching the Grass Grow Raj Neesh Ghost Riders in the Sky Cybernetic Love Brand New Cadillac (Remember) Margate Beach Two Worlds Virgin Love Gas Money Space Invaders World of LSD Cars Eat With Autoface The Right Stuff (although Trev played the guitar part from `Ejection' throughout, which is more or less the point at which I decided to leave) "All of these, I promise, are good songs and you can haul most off http://www.deadfred.co.uk and I bet you will enjoy them, more or less, but for gods' sake don't go and see them live. The end." How it seemed to me, at least, yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 7 18:34:29 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 23:34:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind ...CAUTION In-Reply-To: <17d80c610705101308u6de7446bobe4be442dc971c41@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:08:21PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > *I just checked, and after all these nearly 5 years my copy of Hawkwind > CAUTION is still on back-order* > *I think I am losing patience* > *would somebody sell a CDR????* If I but had one to sell. I never heard of anyone but Paul Ward with a real copy, and he seems to be lost to the 'net, like so many others. Back-order is a bit of a joke sometimes. The trouble is that the people who sell the stuff you really want, can't afford to employ people who can do the job well. > *also, I must tread carefully and word myself with, erm, caution here but I > must ask* > *W(why)TF is Hawkwind on a Blue Oyster Cult forum????* > *the only connection I can see, is that God was wearing a BOC T-Shirt on an > LP cover* I believe we have a canonical answer to this, as with many other things, which is `blame Steve Swann' :-) > *now don't get me wrong, I actually felt "safe" with BOC people posting > recently, and don't mind at all since I have forgiven them for appearing in > Dallas in 1979 when I was an excited little 14 year old, WITHOUT LASERS!!!! The remaster of _Some Enchanted Evening_ includes a quote from Buck saying that they hadn't realised how much they'd lost track of the audience till they got rid of the lasers and could *see* that there *was* an audience again. So maybe you got a better show? But I got to admit, SEE doesn't make it sound easy... > *if BOC played with Hawkwind, they would have to run away screaming in holy > terror for their destroyed (collective ego)(best I can muster at moment.)* I think BOC would look a bit tame but HW have definitely been more startling than they currently are, so maybe not. The difference would have been a lot sharper in 2001-2003. But HW have always been less of their time than BOC, and I think that's a lot to do with the difference. > *I would MUCH prefer to see Hawkwind and Venom connected on a forum* > *not to mention doing dates together in this brave new world here where a > lifetime has begun* > *just my extremely valuable 2 sense* I have never quite got on with Venom, but then I am by nature not that metal. And what metal I like tends to be a long way from the centre; Keelhaul, Dillinger Escape Plan, unpredictable stuff. Yours, Jon ObCD: Iron Butterfly - _Inna Gadda da Vida_ (so, OK, what's supposed to be good about this, exactly?) -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Jun 7 19:26:32 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:26:32 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind ...CAUTION In-Reply-To: <20070607223429.GM27701@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:34:29PM +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:08:21PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > *also, I must tread carefully and word myself with, erm, caution here but I > > must ask* > > *W(why)TF is Hawkwind on a Blue Oyster Cult forum????* > > *the only connection I can see, is that God was wearing a BOC T-Shirt on an > > LP cover* > > I believe we have a canonical answer to this, as with many other > things, which is `blame Steve Swann' :-) It's 'cuz I started the list, and I like BOC and Hawkwind. ;-) That was 17 years ago. What amazes me at times is that some of the people who signed on within the first week are still around. Steve From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 7 16:07:21 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:07:21 -0500 Subject: (offishily frittering in an offhand way) Time Enough For Love Message-ID: *now that I have it, what do I do with it??* *jeez loueeze, it's pushing 600 pg's and I can't find one sexy pop-up anywhere* *oh, I just looked at the cover again* *nevermind, gotta go to myspace and check on my freaks* *mc leg-ohhhhh(tm)* From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 7 19:33:56 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:33:56 -0400 Subject: (Off Musical Topic) Mental Retardation? In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706070555g3ef07dd3s3ff02ecf78a4128e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You just have a lot to say, but try and center out, and write about Hawkwind. Just a thought. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 7 19:39:09 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:39:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706061807t5d413ad2g5ca145f35ace4496@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't quite follow how this thread goes from Porcupine Tree, to Public enemy, but I'm new here. My favorite PT album is The Sky Moves Sideways. I think some of their later stuff is over produced. I still go to their shows, especially when Frip is opening. They sent me their first album, out of the blue, when we were doing the Kaduflyer Magazine, and we promoted it heavily. Cheers, Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 7 19:42:15 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:42:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Apology Last post, Glastonbury Silver Machine Calvert-Porcupine T add-on In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706070756r62977040wa28b92339f09d69e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think that he and the band are saying we should have left this dying rock a long time ago, is it too late? Should we go out into space and destroy another world? I want our race to survive, but not like this, the more we learn, the closer we seem to getting to self-destruction. A few thoughts, Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 7 19:43:35 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:43:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think those 2 Hawkwind discs are fantastic. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 7 19:44:27 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:44:27 -0400 Subject: (Off Musical Topic) Mental Retardation? In-Reply-To: <200706071635.l57GZkZE029362@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: right on! Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 7 19:49:13 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:49:13 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind ...CAUTION In-Reply-To: <20070607232632.GA11103@plutonia.com> Message-ID: There's a Michael Moorcock link between the 2, that's the only reason that comes to mind immediately. Kaduflyer P.S. They're both into sci-fi, too, obviously. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 7 19:51:18 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:51:18 -0400 Subject: (offishily frittering in an offhand way) Time Enough For Love In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706071307m93cf92coa92e89e97ebe936c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Mike, give me a call, if you have a minute. Hawkwind Rule, Kaduflyer From deborah at VACANO.ORG Thu Jun 7 20:04:55 2007 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:04:55 -0600 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Follow up .. I'm not really getting the link between Public Enemy and Porcupine tree either.. can you explain? And I have have been on this list off and on since 96.. lol~ Deborah vzenv14m wrote: > I don't quite follow how this thread goes from Porcupine Tree, to Public > enemy, but I'm new here. My favorite PT album is The Sky Moves Sideways. I > think some of their later stuff is over produced. I still go to their > shows, especially when Frip is opening. > They sent me their first album, out of the blue, when we were doing the > Kaduflyer Magazine, and we promoted it heavily. > > Cheers, > > Kaduflyer > > From deborah at VACANO.ORG Thu Jun 7 20:06:14 2007 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:06:14 -0600 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I love *"In Absentia"that is one of my favorite all time albums.. That album rocks my world!! I got into Hawkwind back in the hawklords days.. We saw them a couple weeks ago at the fox in boulder.. I was craving some of the songs off "In Absentia".. Cool show.. but a little short on Something~ I'm glad I have the "Arriving Somewhere".. DVD I'm a late bloomer when it comes to Porcupine.. We... Guido and I found them on Amazon.. I'm gonna get "Stupid Dreams".. I promise.. Man we would love to see them with fripp!! right on~ Cheers, Deborah www.myspace.com/myst11* vzenv14m wrote: > I don't quite follow how this thread goes from Porcupine Tree, to Public > enemy, but I'm new here. My favorite PT album is The Sky Moves Sideways. I > think some of their later stuff is over produced. I still go to their > shows, especially when Frip is opening. > They sent me their first album, out of the blue, when we were doing the > Kaduflyer Magazine, and we promoted it heavily. > > Cheers, > > Kaduflyer > > From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Thu Jun 7 20:13:32 2007 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 20:13:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet Message-ID: Public Enemy had an album titled "Fear of a Black Planet" The Porcupine Tree title is a take off on Public Enemy's It seems like all the people from long ago are showing up recently on BOC-L. I expect Brian Perera to walk in any minute. John Majka > Follow up .. I'm not really getting the link between Public Enemy and > Porcupine tree either.. can you explain? > And I have have been on this list off and on since 96.. lol~ > Deborah > > > vzenv14m wrote: >> I don't quite follow how this thread goes from Porcupine Tree, to Public >> enemy, but I'm new here. My favorite PT album is The Sky Moves Sideways. >> I >> think some of their later stuff is over produced. I still go to their >> shows, especially when Frip is opening. >> They sent me their first album, out of the blue, when we were doing the >> Kaduflyer Magazine, and we promoted it heavily. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Kaduflyer >> >> From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jun 7 20:14:41 2007 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 01:14:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8 Jun 2007, at 12:39 AM, vzenv14m wrote: > I don't quite follow how this thread goes from Porcupine Tree, to > Public > enemy, but I'm new here. I presume it's because Public Enemy did an album called _Fear of a Black Planet_ and the person making the connection wasn't reading the thread title too closely. :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From senator at CHUNDER.UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Thu Jun 7 20:08:57 2007 From: senator at CHUNDER.UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 17:08:57 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkwind ...CAUTION In-Reply-To: <20070607232632.GA11103@plutonia.com> from "Stephen Swann" at Jun 07, 2007 07:26:32 PM Message-ID: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 11:34:29PM +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:08:21PM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > > *also, I must tread carefully and word myself with, erm, caution here but I > > > must ask* > > > *W(why)TF is Hawkwind on a Blue Oyster Cult forum????* > > > *the only connection I can see, is that God was wearing a BOC T-Shirt on an > > > LP cover* > > > > I believe we have a canonical answer to this, as with many other > > things, which is `blame Steve Swann' :-) > > It's 'cuz I started the list, and I like BOC and Hawkwind. ;-) > > That was 17 years ago. What amazes me at times is that > some of the people who signed on within the first week are > still around. > > Steve And posting...at least occasionally. Still my best source for leads on god rock of all flavors. Bill From deborah at VACANO.ORG Thu Jun 7 20:20:00 2007 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:20:00 -0600 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <001401c7a961$d9b09a20$0302a8c0@MAJKA> Message-ID: Cool.. had no idea!!!! thanks John!! Public Enemy was so rockin in the day~!! (All us old farts show up now and then.. eh?..:o) Deborah (lets try my link again) www.myspace.com/myst11 John Majka wrote: > Public Enemy had an album titled "Fear of a Black Planet" > > The Porcupine Tree title is a take off on Public Enemy's > > It seems like all the people from long ago are showing up recently on > BOC-L. I expect Brian Perera to walk in any minute. > > John Majka > > >> Follow up .. I'm not really getting the link between Public Enemy and >> Porcupine tree either.. can you explain? >> And I have have been on this list off and on since 96.. lol~ >> Deborah >> >> >> vzenv14m wrote: >>> I don't quite follow how this thread goes from Porcupine Tree, to >>> Public >>> enemy, but I'm new here. My favorite PT album is The Sky Moves >>> Sideways. I >>> think some of their later stuff is over produced. I still go to their >>> shows, especially when Frip is opening. >>> They sent me their first album, out of the blue, when we were doing the >>> Kaduflyer Magazine, and we promoted it heavily. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Kaduflyer >>> >>> > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 7 19:50:50 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:50:50 -0500 Subject: (Off Musical Topic) Mental Retardation? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ,<<< vzenv14m wrote: > > right on!>>> > > Kaduflyer > right on what? there is nothing I despise more than behaving and staying focused,,,,,that is what I am supposed to be doing elsewhere but I think my insanity won out again From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 7 22:00:20 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 21:00:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <001401c7a961$d9b09a20$0302a8c0@MAJKA> Message-ID: *<<*On 6/7/07, John Majka jmajk at indy.rr.com> wrote:*>> wrote:>>>* > >>Public Enemy had an album titled "Fear of a Black Planet" > >>The Porcupine Tree title is a take off on Public Enemy's > >>It seems like all the people from long ago are showing up recently on > BOC-L. > >>I expect Brian Perera to walk in any minute. it's really real folks.....we've been spotted from on high......the time is ever fuller and none of us are getting any younger I would _love_ to talk to Brian again......he is a wonderful person......he tried to stop me/save me........I was his very first customer, never forget talking to his mom at the Rock Cave and then contacting him after returning from California seeing HW....... Jon I wanna thank you, I've just heard from Doug P and it wasn't frightening or derogatory in any way..... and John, I remember you., of course love RFM support system *enjoying all the posts.........* From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jun 8 04:55:11 2007 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:55:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <46689D27.5000601@vacano.org> Message-ID: Public Enemys finest hour was an album called "Fear of a blaCk planet"(1990)...Anyone got the connection, yet???..lol..come on, you eclectic music-lovers,keep up! :) >From: Deborah Vacano >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:04:55 -0600 > >Follow up .. I'm not really getting the link between Public Enemy and >Porcupine tree either.. can you explain? >And I have have been on this list off and on since 96.. lol~ >Deborah > > >vzenv14m wrote: >>I don't quite follow how this thread goes from Porcupine Tree, to Public >>enemy, but I'm new here. My favorite PT album is The Sky Moves Sideways. >>I >>think some of their later stuff is over produced. I still go to their >>shows, especially when Frip is opening. >>They sent me their first album, out of the blue, when we were doing the >>Kaduflyer Magazine, and we promoted it heavily. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Kaduflyer >> >> _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jun 8 05:01:16 2007 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:01:16 +0000 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: of course I read it correctly..derr..Porcupine Tree are using a play on words on Public Enemy's ground-breaking album..jeez.. In fact,I believe Terminator X often used Robert Fripp samples in their crazy background noise. >From: Paul Mather >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet >Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 01:14:41 +0100 > >On 8 Jun 2007, at 12:39 AM, vzenv14m wrote: > >>I don't quite follow how this thread goes from Porcupine Tree, to Public >>enemy, but I'm new here. > >I presume it's because Public Enemy did an album called _Fear of a Black >Planet_ and the person making the connection wasn't reading the thread >title too closely. :-) > >Cheers, > >Paul. > >e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > >"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jun 8 05:30:38 2007 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:30:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Roky Erickson in today's Guardian Message-ID: There's an article on Roky Erickson in today's Guardian, in advance of his upcoming gig at the Royal Festival Hall on the 18th June: http://music.guardian.co.uk/rock/story/0,,2097535,00.html Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Jun 8 06:25:17 2007 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:25:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: Roky Erickson in today's Guardian In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Cheers for that, I cant wait to see him, any others going.... I didnt know I got tickets, as when i tried to get them the online ticket system timed out, so it was a huge plesant surprise yesterday when the tickets came through... 10 rows back YEEHAR !!!! Iain Paul Mather wrote on 08/06/2007, 10:30: > There's an article on Roky Erickson in today's Guardian, in advance > of his upcoming gig at the Royal Festival Hall on the 18th June: > > http://music.guardian.co.uk/rock/story/0,,2097535,00.html > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Fri Jun 8 11:42:23 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:42:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet In-Reply-To: <001401c7a961$d9b09a20$0302a8c0@MAJKA> Message-ID: Quoting John Majka : > Public Enemy had an album titled "Fear of a Black Planet" > > The Porcupine Tree title is a take off on Public Enemy's > > It seems like all the people from long ago are showing up recently on BOC-L. > I expect Brian Perera to walk in any minute. I keep urging Tania to re-join, but so far she has resisted. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jun 8 11:57:07 2007 From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 16:57:07 +0100 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706061203v2e668a2ax7c754dc651b6beef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mike Coleman wrote: >so whats with them anyway? all the members left and Ed's got his wife in >now???? I've just checked on Wiki, and the 'original core' of Ozrics lasted 10 years from '83 to '94 (Joie, Ed, and Merv) when Joie and Merv left fully to do Eat Static full time. They'd been doing both for a while, two for the price of one! That means Arboresence is the last album with the original core, in fact I think only the bass player had changed prior to that, Gavin to Roly to Mia roughly. Incidentally, the discography says Pungent Effulgent was released before Erpland, but I distinctly recall that in the UK at least Erpland was released first, even though P.E. was recorded first. I'm sure there are mistakes and I'll probably be corrected. I got the limited edition Jurrasic Shift in the Hemp paper cover on the day of release from Andy's records in Cambridge, do I get Kollector points for that? Look forward to meeting new people at Hawkfest next week. I'm giddy with excitement, a wedding AND Lemmy too! To recap, I'm the blond guy with specs on his own at the back! ;-) Edmund _________________________________________________________________ Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 8 09:29:30 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:29:30 -0500 Subject: Roky Erikson in Todays Guardian Message-ID: *morning class!* *forgive me if I've told this already* *I just can't help.....my lost HW koalechtor friend Pierre Thompson and I were at a record convention in Austin some years ago, and there's Roky, and people were trying so hard to get an autograph or to just talk to him, and he would have NONE of it.....* *we didn't give one shit about him, as (especially me) was way too busy making sure no-one else could get any quality HW gear that day (such is the nature of the beast unfortunately)......and whaddaya know, Roky latched onto us, talked our ear off, meanwhile refusing anyone else, he really was (for lack of another way to put it) so sweet, and we all ended up outside while we waited for his mother to come pick him up.....He seemed like an actual friend of mine that I already knew, and he acted that way......looking back what a great memory.......* *the only record I ever bought (and I think ever heard) by them is (I think) "the psychedelic sounds of"??? does that sound right?? and it had "fire engine"???? anyway, recommendations welcome* *mike c* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 8 11:40:45 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 10:40:45 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Uh Oh Death Comes Ripping/ Roky E Message-ID: *I have been given orders to kill from on high* *I've done my best to avoid it but it may be unavoidable* *if I kill you please don't take it personal* *man that artcile on Roky set me thinking* *how great* *he makes perfect sense to me, and it all makes perfect sense* *right down to the Zyprexa (no meds for me, they don't work, and no argument from professionals either)(one therapist wanted to do shock therapy on me.....I was terrified)* *as a child in school, I wouldn't pay attention, much preferring to doodle UFO's which were so familiar to me* *the only real Pink Floyd to me is the Barrett stuff, and even then I prefer and cling to my Barrett solo stuff* *I've got 2-of-a-kind, do you?* *and the moms, etc* *damned I wish I wasn't so insecure, I was supposed to "rock"* *bye bye* *mc* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 8 12:48:21 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:48:21 -0500 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll call myself Egelloc Notsob for this one Yes, you absolutely get Kalektor points for the hemp JS...... I too, had it immmediately, and my connection with RPM records was so slick (now Groovenet, recommended), that I often had items here in Texas before the dwellers of the Kingdom did.......I had kept 2 vinyls of the hemp cover, now ripped away by sisters who thought they could dictate to God what their brother had to be........ I myself feel pretty confident that "Pungent" was the first, and if anyone has a copy of the Demi-Monde vinyl, could you just get it out and give it a kissy for me.......I'd love to even see a scan of it........ I still have my hemp original CD of JS........*WARNING PEOPLE: The ink on the original Dovetail releases can cause them to go bad, I've had 2 go bad now........better rebuy the entire catalog if you're stuck with those* *if my wanted thread about ornithological swarming ever comes to light, there's more to say.......* *oh, I just reread, you did say Pungent was first but released second.....could be...what's with that Demi_Monde LP??? I am sorta tickled that the IRS catalog isn't boldly recorded in history......kinda draws me back....* *E.N.* On 6/8/07, Edmund Clout wrote: > > Mike Coleman wrote: > >so whats with them anyway? all the members left and Ed's got his wife in > >now???? > > I've just checked on Wiki, and the 'original core' of Ozrics lasted 10 > years > from '83 to '94 (Joie, Ed, and Merv) when Joie and Merv left fully to do > Eat > Static full time. They'd been doing both for a while, two for the price of > one! That means Arboresence is the last album with the original core, in > fact I think only the bass player had changed prior to that, Gavin to Roly > to Mia roughly. Incidentally, the discography says Pungent Effulgent was > released before Erpland, but I distinctly recall that in the UK at least > Erpland was released first, even though P.E. was recorded first. I'm sure > there are mistakes and I'll probably be corrected. I got the limited > edition > Jurrasic Shift in the Hemp paper cover on the day of release from Andy's > records in Cambridge, do I get Kollector points for that? > > Look forward to meeting new people at Hawkfest next week. I'm giddy with > excitement, a wedding AND Lemmy too! To recap, I'm the blond guy with > specs > on his own at the back! ;-) > > Edmund > > _________________________________________________________________ > Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition > http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 8 13:54:23 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:54:23 -0500 Subject: (OFF) a coded message heard Message-ID: I really do apologize about yet another despite my satanic skill the lighthouse of the heart is forefront and I pray you will appreciate that this idea may get ME in trouble: send the drummer chicks email address to this one: vontrippenhoff at btinternet.com have it forwarded to it's intended destination I only have about 30 mins left on my calling card and to have to ring Conrad and Jeff in the UK would suck it right up the spirits are converging just been reunited with Hawkfamily Steve I am fogged up about your creation, I remember you, and also, to blame you for everything......I had forgotten ps-I retract about BOC, if you let me I wanna see em I myself would have put HW first though, no matter so tired of this malnutrition feeling......have to go out...afraid mike From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jun 8 12:14:28 2007 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 16:14:28 +0000 Subject: OFF: Fear of a Blank Planet Message-ID: Jon Browne is somehow missed...... always a good man to discuss comic books with!!!! > It seems like all the people from long ago are showing up recently on BOC-L. > I expect Brian Perera to walk in any minute. I keep urging Tania to re-join, but so far she has resisted. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ From e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 9 06:51:41 2007 From: e_clout at HOTMAIL.COM (Edmund Clout) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 11:51:41 +0100 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706080948y5ae95596k5b7862d390b61f21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Extra research: The demi-monde Pungent Effulgent release was first ('89), then the Dovetail Erpland ('90), then the Dove Tail Pungent Effulgent (later in '90). I can remember reading why, but I can't remember what I read, maybe poor distribution (it certainly wasn't available in Chester or Cambridge record shops at the time when I looked.)? or just rereleased on their own dovetail label. Also forgot Tig, the original drummer. Ed P.S. Forgot to boast that I was at the Cambridge Junction gig that made half of the Live Underslunky LP. You can hear me cheering wildly on it (Honest!) _________________________________________________________________ Could you be the guest MSN Movies presenter? Click Here to Audition http://www.lightscameraaudition.co.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jun 9 07:21:19 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 12:21:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Planetfall! In-Reply-To: <97AAE8F8-D56C-49C3-80E1-C58DCC3FE4F5@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 07:09:05PM +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > So, Amazon delivered, iTunes has ripped, and Litmus is planetfallin' > for me. Only as far as "Lost Stations" so far, and I'm convinced! :) Agreed, I'm pretty happy with this. Something threw me about the way the first track is mixed the first couple of times through, the electronics are so large in the sound that they rob the actual tune of some of its impact, but it sounds better loud--obviously--and in the end what it comes down to is that I've seen them do it better live, which is just something I'll have to live with. But otherwise what I have heard before is certainly up to standard and there's enough stuff I haven't, also all quality, that I still got to feel as if I was discovering a new album. I was kind of startled to find all the first three tracks coming in at under five minutes though! It's difficult to say whether I just haven't heard it as much as `Under the Sign', which was my instinctual guess at best song on the disc, but actually I think `Fare Neyond' is the greatest patch on here. Partly because of its position, coming after a set of quite direful negative songs it suddenly returns to pace and drive and adrenalin and carries you towards the end of the disc much more hopeful than the doomy tinges of the previous fare might have left you. So yes: I don't know yet whether this will be my album of the year but as yet no other stronger contenders present themselves... Yours, Jon ObCassette: The Fall - _Cerebral Caustic_ -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 9 09:33:11 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 08:33:11 -0500 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: .>>Edmund C (a new friend) : >>P.S. Forgot to boast that I was at the Cambridge Junction gig that made half >>of the Live Underslunky LP. You can hear me cheering wildly on it (Honest!) ______________________________________________________ *I hope it goes without saying that everything you've said and done has been thoroughly enjoyed and read-* *when Ozric's came to Dallas, Seaweed told me they were expecting Texas to be like "Mississippi Burning"* *the show got such a response, and so many people kept wandering in off the street totally mesmerized, that it was the only show of the tour where they threw the 6CD box-sets into the audience........* *I got to hang out with them backstage* *of all the autographed treasures and personal items my sisters didn't see me worthy of keeping, one thing I really miss is a picture of an empty pizza box on a dirty floor with ED's sneakers in the pic......I just loved that one.....* *as for hearing oneself on albums, yes I do that too, but not as cleverly as you .....I ruined all chances of Hawkwind San Diego 89 ever getting an official release, because I was SO loud, there was no possible way to get me out.......it went underground and exists as "Indra's Ayahuasca"...Dave has it and it's beautiful.......* *I chose Jack Daniels over liquid LSD that night......never forget standing on my chair and having one "hawkfan Adrian" put his phone number in my hand......I always felt bad I didn't call.....I had never encountered that spirit before, I thought maybe it was a gay hookup......(shit I wish I had the number) (KIDDING!!)* *I probably did the same thing to the Hawkwind Boulder 95 show.......thank god for "The A Files".......* *I think Richard and his girlfriend were rather amused by our acid dealer who only showed up at the very end of the San Diego show, danced _REALLY_funny, then was spoken to in the parking lot....I think they were telling him he'd blend right in at the festivals........d'ohh* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 9 09:47:40 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 08:47:40 -0500 Subject: Jon Jarrett's ICU connection Message-ID: *Jon (and myself) have inadvertantly brought about the scribing of the first track of what will become the new ICU album.* *the only pair of shoes I have that I can wear besides my good leather ones that make my feet look like Bozo, have a huge hole in one of them, duck-taped from the inside...but when it rains my foot gets sopped* *If I sneak the lyrics up here would any of you send just a TINY contribution (I do mean tiny), so I can at least get some new shoes in case I become an "ICU reject"???* *mc* ** ** From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 9 10:43:26 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 09:43:26 -0500 Subject: (off yet not off) these people Message-ID: weigh heavily on my heart and I need a reuniting: (all of my old connections do, but I'm starting here) 1) Steven Skane in Australia (find him please) 2) Cerberus.....the big 2 (get them) thank you class m can I submit a list of the ones I want offed?? From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Sat Jun 9 15:11:09 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:11:09 -0400 Subject: Request for Hawkwind tour news Message-ID: All, I see Mission Control lists two USA tour dates in June: Bethlehem PA on June 23rd, and Allentown PA on June 24th. But there's a club in Brooklyn, called Europa, who claim on their webpage that Hawkwind will be playing there on June 25th: http://www.europalive.net/schedule/artist.php?id=625 Any comment from the official Hawkwind camp? Steve From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sat Jun 9 16:56:32 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:56:32 -0700 Subject: Request for Hawkwind tour news In-Reply-To: <20070609191109.GA3321@plutonia.com> Message-ID: Sure Captain Brock will love Europa's website and the link to a Youtube video with Nik! Stephen Swann wrote: All, I see Mission Control lists two USA tour dates in June: Bethlehem PA on June 23rd, and Allentown PA on June 24th. But there's a club in Brooklyn, called Europa, who claim on their webpage that Hawkwind will be playing there on June 25th: http://www.europalive.net/schedule/artist.php?id=625 Any comment from the official Hawkwind camp? Steve --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Sun Jun 10 00:06:57 2007 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:06:57 -0400 Subject: So WHO Is going to NearFest?? Message-ID: It's important for me to know other than Chris T who is coming from our list(s). Please email me off list at mike.montfort at gmail.com as soon as you can. Thanks so much!!! -- Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the pics http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort the myspace http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ the photobucket http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ the flickr site From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jun 10 11:14:03 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:14:03 +0100 Subject: JON JARRET NARROWLY ESCAPES TERRORIST BOMB BLAST was NIK/OFF: Litmus & Inner City Unit, The Standard, Walthamstow, 11/05/07 Message-ID: The celebrated music reviewer Jonathan Jarret narrowly missed death in the early hours of yesterday morning when his home was destroyed by a massive explosion. He survived by a fluke..."I had the radio on and they started to play a track by a band called *Inner City Unit*. I was so frightened by the music that I just had to get out to get some fresh air. Imagine my surprise when my house suddenly exploded". The terrorist squad wish to interview a London musician, Nazar Ali Khan who was seen lurking about Jarret's home the previous evening with a large package. Khan has since disappeared. The police found Khan's own home deserted with the slogan "Allah Akbar" daubed across his door. Khan is now believed to be in the Tora Bora region of Wales and is being sought by special services to help them with their enquiries. The Pime Minister declined to comment officially on the situation but members of the press have reported that he seemed to be in a daze and was repeatedly muttering "ICU have reformed ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - ICU have reformed he he he he he hehe....". Reuters ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:20 PM Subject: NIK/OFF: Litmus & Inner City Unit, The Standard, Walthamstow, 11/05/07 > I realise this review is a bit late, but so is all my mail at > the moment, and there haven't been any others. I stuck this up on a BBS > I use, which is why it contains explanations BOC-L don't need. This is > going to be another review where I hope Trev will forgive me; I thought > he was badly let down by a band of which he was by a long way the best > part. But this is what I wrote. > > "I had worries about this gig, because since I last saw them > Litmus had shed their keyboardist and I didn't know what the new one > would be like, and because Inner City Unit, the 80s punk band of > ex-Hawkwind saxophonist Nik Turner, while brilliant at the time, have > always been rather awful since they started sporadically reforming and > would be playing with two original members max. But because I wanted to > see what would happen with Litmus, and also buy their new album, and > because [another user of the BBS] was also going to make it, I happened > along. > > "Litmus has in fact not yet acquired a new keyboardist at all, > which made them sound rather different. They had more space for guitar, > whereas before the guitar had often been fighting against the actual > tune; on the other hand, now on several tracks big parts of the actual > tune were missing. The jams, of which there are usually lots, were more > successful than before--both bass-player and guitarist separately told > me that now they're carrying more of it by themselves they're generally > concentrating more--but the setlist oddly restricted by what they could > so as a four-piece. So there were only two tracks from the new album, > two things from before the first one and a cover. The setlist was: > > Destroy the Mothership! [which was awesome for the extra attack] > Tempest > Twinstar [with a long and brilliant jam] > Sonic Light [with a fluffed intro and half the tune missing, dull] > (Theta Wave) Inductor [which Martin said they only do because I moan if > they don't, well, it was good so I don't care] > White Light/White Heat [which was OK, and segued into a new number whose > title I don't know yet, which sounded like a lost > Hawkwind track from long ago--I mean even more than > their stuff usually does] > Ejection [Hawkwind cover, solid] > Evil [very old song which still needs to be part of something bigger I > think, but whose riff is still the absolute killer] > > "And that was it! Short and odd, but mostly well-played, and > it's good that they are confident enough to do this kind of holding > performance until the line-up can be healed, but, at the same time, this > was sort of only part of a show. > > "Inner City Unit took the stage with two synth players, both > scrounged from Nik's lacklustre Hawkwind nostalgia act Space Ritual, > Judge Trev and Nik from ICU proper, the drummer from Nik's Cuban jazz > outfit The Fantastic All-Stars, and Nazar Ali Khan who was sucked into > ICU for the reformation having previously been the band's graphic > designer. This was not an auspicious start, and they followed it up by > doing one of the few gigs so bad that I've left early rather than listen > to any more. I'll try and be brief. > > "Nazar cannot play bass live. There was a time when he was just > completely useless and I recognise that he has got a lot better. > Unfortunately, he has got a lot better by practising soloes and licks in > his bedroom, not by playing with a band. He ruined almost every number > that had any kind of change in, simply because when he hit the change he > would charge off at a different speed to the one he'd been using, > oblivious to the rest of the band who then had to try and match up. This > in turn made the drummer, whom I've seen be very good before, more or > less useless because he kept being unfooted and so played everything > safe. > > Trev, on guitar and possibly the only person in the band who > knew how the songs actually went (Nik's recall of this sort of detail > often being a bit sketchy--though actually he only came in out of place > twice that I spotted and then at least he was 4 bars out so that the > band could cover it relatively easily, and though he did do one sax solo > in the wrong key that was mostly because Nazar had already got out of > key and Nik followed him rather than Trev), slowly took more and more > control over the course of the gig. He'd started too quiet, and too > respectful of the other players, and by the time I gave up and left he > at least had become impressively aggressive and shreddy, but since apart > from Nik the rest of the band weren't picking up on it that didn't > really save matters. And whenever there was some energy actually going, > the hapless swooshes and sputters of the synth players, of whom they > *maybe* needed one, sucked it away by destroying and puncturing the > rhythm and drowning the tune. > > In summary, Nik and Trev were good; but they'd have been > incomparably better had they been busking outside by themselves. I > couldn't stand seeing what had been good songs once so uselessly > murdered and left well before the end. Sorry. I shall need considerable > reassurance before I risk another ICU performance I'm afraid. > > "The setlist such as I saw was: > > Watching the Grass Grow > Raj Neesh > Ghost Riders in the Sky > Cybernetic Love > Brand New Cadillac > (Remember) Margate Beach > Two Worlds > Virgin Love > Gas Money > Space Invaders > World of LSD > Cars Eat With Autoface > The Right Stuff (although Trev played the guitar part from `Ejection' > throughout, which is more or less the point at which I decided > to leave) > > "All of these, I promise, are good songs and you can haul most > off http://www.deadfred.co.uk and I bet you will enjoy them, more or > less, but for gods' sake don't go and see them live. The end." > > How it seemed to me, at least, yours, > Jon > > -- > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jun 10 14:40:08 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:40:08 -0400 Subject: So WHO Is going to NearFest?? In-Reply-To: <466B78E1.9050506@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll be there, Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jun 10 12:26:44 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:26:44 -0500 Subject: JON JARRET NARROWLY ESCAPES TERRORIST BOMB BLAST was NIK/OFF: Litmus & Inner City Unit, The Standard, Walthamstow, 11/05/07 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear Forum as I sat crying in my beer and realizing that Syd was much more handsome than me, and talented in volumes 10 of me could never comprehend, debating unsubscribing with an apology......I decided just to simply state that it's hard to realize your mental illness when you don 't hear voices/etc Trev, you had an innocent person's house exploded......wrong person.......(look more closely) here's that song folks, I like my crap shoes, it's all "part of it" enjoy:-) ps-I've heard Larry and Ian on the Disky(VERSION) CD......it's gonna be alright..THEY WILL SAVE ME *ooooo that clinking clanking sound* Money makes the world go around, the world go around, the world go around, Money makes the world go around, it makes the world go round. A mark, a yen, a buck or a pound, a buck or a pound, a buck or a pound, Is all that makes the world go around, that clinking clanking sound, Can make the world go round. If you happen to be rich, and you feel like a night's entertainment, You can pay for a gay escapade. If you happen to be rich, and alone and you need a companion, You can ring ting-a-ling for the maid. If you happen to be rich and you find you are left by your lover, Tho you moan and you groan quite a lot, You can take it on the chin, call a cab and begin to recover on your fourteen carat yacht. Money makes the world go around, the world go around, the world go around, Money makes the world go around, of that we both are sure. (Raspberry) On being poor. When you haven't any coal in the stove and you freeze in the winter And you curse to the wind at your fate. When you haven't any shoes on your feet and your coat's thin as paper And you look thirty pounds underweight, When you go to get a word of advice from the fat little pastor, he will tell you to love evermore. But when hunger comes to rap, rat-a-tat, rat-a-tat, at the window See how love flies out the door. For money makes the world go around, the world go around, the world go around. Money makes the world go around, the clinking, clanking sound of Money, money, money, money, Money, money, money, money, Get a little, get a little, Money, money, money, money, Mark, a yen, a buck or a pound, That clinking, clanking clunking sound is all that makes the world go round, It makes the world go round copyright trev thoms 2007 On 6/10/07, trev wrote: > > The celebrated music reviewer Jonathan Jarret narrowly missed death in the > early hours of yesterday morning when his home was destroyed by a massive > explosion. He survived by a fluke..."I had the radio on and they started > to > play a track by a band called *Inner City Unit*. I was so frightened by > the > music that I just had to get out to get some fresh air. Imagine my > surprise > when my house suddenly exploded". > > The terrorist squad wish to interview a London musician, Nazar Ali Khan > who > was seen lurking about Jarret's home the previous evening with a large > package. Khan has since disappeared. The police found Khan's own home > deserted with the slogan "Allah Akbar" daubed across his door. > > Khan is now believed to be in the Tora Bora region of Wales and is being > sought by special services to help them with their enquiries. > > The Pime Minister declined to comment officially on the situation but > members of the press have reported that he seemed to be in a daze and was > repeatedly muttering "ICU have reformed ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - ICU have > reformed he he he he he hehe....". > > Reuters > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Jarrett" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:20 PM > Subject: NIK/OFF: Litmus & Inner City Unit, The Standard, Walthamstow, > 11/05/07 > > > > I realise this review is a bit late, but so is all my mail at > > the moment, and there haven't been any others. I stuck this up on a BBS > > I use, which is why it contains explanations BOC-L don't need. This is > > going to be another review where I hope Trev will forgive me; I thought > > he was badly let down by a band of which he was by a long way the best > > part. But this is what I wrote. > > > > "I had worries about this gig, because since I last saw them > > Litmus had shed their keyboardist and I didn't know what the new one > > would be like, and because Inner City Unit, the 80s punk band of > > ex-Hawkwind saxophonist Nik Turner, while brilliant at the time, have > > always been rather awful since they started sporadically reforming and > > would be playing with two original members max. But because I wanted to > > see what would happen with Litmus, and also buy their new album, and > > because [another user of the BBS] was also going to make it, I happened > > along. > > > > "Litmus has in fact not yet acquired a new keyboardist at all, > > which made them sound rather different. They had more space for guitar, > > whereas before the guitar had often been fighting against the actual > > tune; on the other hand, now on several tracks big parts of the actual > > tune were missing. The jams, of which there are usually lots, were more > > successful than before--both bass-player and guitarist separately told > > me that now they're carrying more of it by themselves they're generally > > concentrating more--but the setlist oddly restricted by what they could > > so as a four-piece. So there were only two tracks from the new album, > > two things from before the first one and a cover. The setlist was: > > > > Destroy the Mothership! [which was awesome for the extra attack] > > Tempest > > Twinstar [with a long and brilliant jam] > > Sonic Light [with a fluffed intro and half the tune missing, dull] > > (Theta Wave) Inductor [which Martin said they only do because I moan if > > they don't, well, it was good so I don't care] > > White Light/White Heat [which was OK, and segued into a new number whose > > title I don't know yet, which sounded like a lost > > Hawkwind track from long ago--I mean even more than > > their stuff usually does] > > Ejection [Hawkwind cover, solid] > > Evil [very old song which still needs to be part of something bigger I > > think, but whose riff is still the absolute killer] > > > > "And that was it! Short and odd, but mostly well-played, and > > it's good that they are confident enough to do this kind of holding > > performance until the line-up can be healed, but, at the same time, this > > was sort of only part of a show. > > > > "Inner City Unit took the stage with two synth players, both > > scrounged from Nik's lacklustre Hawkwind nostalgia act Space Ritual, > > Judge Trev and Nik from ICU proper, the drummer from Nik's Cuban jazz > > outfit The Fantastic All-Stars, and Nazar Ali Khan who was sucked into > > ICU for the reformation having previously been the band's graphic > > designer. This was not an auspicious start, and they followed it up by > > doing one of the few gigs so bad that I've left early rather than listen > > to any more. I'll try and be brief. > > > > "Nazar cannot play bass live. There was a time when he was just > > completely useless and I recognise that he has got a lot better. > > Unfortunately, he has got a lot better by practising soloes and licks in > > his bedroom, not by playing with a band. He ruined almost every number > > that had any kind of change in, simply because when he hit the change he > > would charge off at a different speed to the one he'd been using, > > oblivious to the rest of the band who then had to try and match up. This > > in turn made the drummer, whom I've seen be very good before, more or > > less useless because he kept being unfooted and so played everything > > safe. > > > > Trev, on guitar and possibly the only person in the band who > > knew how the songs actually went (Nik's recall of this sort of detail > > often being a bit sketchy--though actually he only came in out of place > > twice that I spotted and then at least he was 4 bars out so that the > > band could cover it relatively easily, and though he did do one sax solo > > in the wrong key that was mostly because Nazar had already got out of > > key and Nik followed him rather than Trev), slowly took more and more > > control over the course of the gig. He'd started too quiet, and too > > respectful of the other players, and by the time I gave up and left he > > at least had become impressively aggressive and shreddy, but since apart > > from Nik the rest of the band weren't picking up on it that didn't > > really save matters. And whenever there was some energy actually going, > > the hapless swooshes and sputters of the synth players, of whom they > > *maybe* needed one, sucked it away by destroying and puncturing the > > rhythm and drowning the tune. > > > > In summary, Nik and Trev were good; but they'd have been > > incomparably better had they been busking outside by themselves. I > > couldn't stand seeing what had been good songs once so uselessly > > murdered and left well before the end. Sorry. I shall need considerable > > reassurance before I risk another ICU performance I'm afraid. > > > > "The setlist such as I saw was: > > > > Watching the Grass Grow > > Raj Neesh > > Ghost Riders in the Sky > > Cybernetic Love > > Brand New Cadillac > > (Remember) Margate Beach > > Two Worlds > > Virgin Love > > Gas Money > > Space Invaders > > World of LSD > > Cars Eat With Autoface > > The Right Stuff (although Trev played the guitar part from `Ejection' > > throughout, which is more or less the point at which I decided > > to leave) > > > > "All of these, I promise, are good songs and you can haul most > > off http://www.deadfred.co.uk and I bet you will enjoy them, more or > > less, but for gods' sake don't go and see them live. The end." > > > > How it seemed to me, at least, yours, > > Jon > > > > -- > > "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" > > (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) > > Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jun 10 13:20:04 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:20:04 -0500 Subject: (OFF) don't be afraid Mary Message-ID: I am the one who has to fear we talked so long the mind forgot but at 3-something in the morning in the middle of motorhead-marathon madness, the HEART remembered the closeness we've achieved so fast freaks me out, scary........ despite my aching head, I'm off to the Nektar site now maybe I'll shoot for those "down-to-earth" 45's I always wanted depsite them being uselss to me now (I mail her private next time) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sun Jun 10 16:14:13 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:14:13 -0400 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706090633q5f0b25d5m601845c1aa334944@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, With a computer and pro tools, you can eliminate any sound, out of a recording, but I heard the mix had some flaws, in the recording, There were some decent audience copies someone, (I don't know who made, and there was an attempt at doing a 4 track, but there were problems with a track, at the 4 channel Alan and his bass kept dropping out, or making some sort of noise. There's an example of a tape I wouldn't want going around if I were a band member, the music was great, but I think it was a bad cable. I can remember being so disappointed in the 60 cycle hum on Woodstock, I suppose in some ways it represented the times, I'm trying to remember when the first great live recording was that I heard. I think Live Dead is up there, and Band of Gypsies ace, Mry From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jun 10 16:28:18 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:28:18 -0500 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: *Mary my sweetsiepoopums, it's a soundboard copy, including soundchecks, you own it, I have it minus the art/then innovative packaging, Dave's got it, Kevin's got it, and if anyone else has it and I get blamed I'm phoning Trev......and that call I will make* On 6/10/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > Hi Mike, > With a computer and pro tools, you can eliminate any sound, out of a > recording, but I heard the mix had some flaws, in the recording, There > were > some decent audience copies someone, (I don't know who made, and there was > an attempt at doing a 4 track, but there were problems with a track, at > the > 4 channel Alan and his bass kept dropping out, or making some sort of > noise. > There's an example of a tape I wouldn't want going around if I were a > band > member, the music was great, but I think it was a bad cable. > > I can remember being so disappointed in the 60 cycle hum on Woodstock, I > suppose in some ways it represented the times, I'm trying to remember when > the first great live recording was that I heard. I think Live Dead is up > there, and Band of Gypsies ace, > > Mry > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sun Jun 10 20:58:08 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:58:08 -0500 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706101328l3a09a9b6yadbd8e8c516b560d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mary has a way of projecting her triptic intelligence and letting me know that she "sees me" that makes me nervous my response here made loving sense to me but it occured to me she is brand newly returned here and might appreciate my treating her in a more sane fashion....she is in fact so clever that I have to be constantly reminded of her blindness otherwise I will always forget she is.......and speaking of I am hoping that some good soul(s) will keep just a bit of an eye on her since she won't be stopped seeing HW Nearfests and such and there is no Chris at the moment attending her I had not been intelligent enought to realize/take the time to, that she was simply explaining the REAL reasons nothing could be done with SD 89, even had the band wanted too, etc...... I have been offline and had company already........ in case anyone thinks I advocate substances previously mentioned, etc.....ABSOLUTELY NOT.........only if that was a path you took as well, etc........ can we just get some love already please or kill me and why was there no encore at the Palace Springs show?.......did somebody have to get to the toilet? or was that sort of thing simply "not done" at The Palace?? that one has eaten me in years previous....or was it to do with the recording process??? dewey decimal On 6/10/07, mike coleman wrote: > > *Mary my sweetsiepoopums, it's a soundboard copy, including soundchecks, > you own it, I have it minus the art/then innovative packaging, Dave's got > it, Kevin's got it, and if anyone else has it and I get blamed I'm phoning > Trev......and that call I will make * > > On 6/10/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > With a computer and pro tools, you can eliminate any sound, out of a > > recording, but I heard the mix had some flaws, in the recording, There > > were > > some decent audience copies someone, (I don't know who made, and there > > was > > an attempt at doing a 4 track, but there were problems with a track, at > > the > > 4 channel Alan and his bass kept dropping out, or making some sort of > > noise. > > There's an example of a tape I wouldn't want going around if I were a > > band > > member, the music was great, but I think it was a bad cable. > > > > I can remember being so disappointed in the 60 cycle hum on Woodstock, I > > > > suppose in some ways it represented the times, I'm trying to remember > > when > > the first great live recording was that I heard. I think Live Dead is > > up > > there, and Band of Gypsies ace, > > > > Mry > > > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 11 04:46:12 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:46:12 -0400 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706101758s2d5c169bu189caf5877903df6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I appreciate your concern, but I have a lot of friends looking out for me at the festival. With respect to Palace Springs, actually, there was a double encore Of Needle Gun and Ejection, Often times bands don't put the first or last songs on an album, the first is they're getting the sound right, from a sound check to an empty room, to a room full of people. The set was fairly similar to San Diego. Stay cool, Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 11 04:51:29 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:51:29 -0400 Subject: Ozrics History (Was Re: test) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706101328l3a09a9b6yadbd8e8c516b560d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike "*Mary my sweetsiepoopums,"I don't know where that came from As you know, I don't have recordings, it's against Captain's orders. Kaduflyer . From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 11 04:57:00 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:57:00 -0400 Subject: Greetings, Message-ID: Hello friends, it's good to be back in this forum. Chris is doing well and will be returning within the year. I'm looking forward to hearing from old friends. Love in Space, Kaduflyer From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Mon Jun 11 07:48:04 2007 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:48:04 -0700 Subject: OFF: Summer '07 festivals Message-ID: Hi Folx... I writing from Koeln (Cologne) on my first week of my Summer '07 Euro-festival tour, basically repeating the fun I had back in '05. Tomorrow the music begins with old Krautrockers Holederlin here in Koeln, then off to Hawkfest in Nottinghamgebiet. Hope to see a bunch of you here and there, if not at Hawkfest itself. Hopefully they'll let me in, as my HW passport is still in storage in Switzerland I do believe. I plan to get to as many cool festivals as I can this summer. Sadly, I probably won't make Eastern Haze again, as they seem determined to hold it on the very same weekend as Burg Herzberg in central Germany. It's difficult to decide which one to go to, but I have to choose the one here in DE, as it's just a nicer place to be in. :) Just for kicks, I checked out the lineup for Glasters this year...I have to say, there's not very much there that would interest me going in. Millions of names, but a ton of crud I've never heard of...maybe a lot of cool discoveries, but it would take time just to sample bits and pieces to find the right one at the moment. Only Kava Kava, Ozrics, Rodrigo y Gabriela and the Who were names that sparked any interest up front. Eastern Haze has three times as much with three times fewer acts. So...thanks to some help/advice from you folks, I'm travelling now with my MP3 player this time and 1,460 songs (how many cassettes would that have been?). I got a standard iPod nano (8GB) in the end, because I had to rely on other people's computers to do the ripping and transferring of tunes, and those people already had iPods. So far it's going well, though for some strange reason certain songs sound more distorted than others at the same volume. (only very few songs are noticably distorted, I mean). I think it's probably because I'm using a cheap set of earphones and not the iPod ones themselves, but those didn't come with a case to wind them up in, which I prefer to do (otherwise they get knotted). I'll have to see if I can swap them. Now I have to find out where to pick up one of these Solio solar chargers, so I don't have to pay for electricity on the road. I haven't seen one in the stores here...are they available in the UK (Nottingham for example?). I didn't get an outlet power device with my iPod, as those are now just sold separately (?), so I'm going to buy one today here in Koeln (with a German plug) so I can charge it up that way to start. I don't have a laptop with me or anything...my pack is heavy enough as it is. Well, nice to hear from Mary B. again (I met you and Chris at Bill S.' in Yonkers ca. '95). Hope to see many others on the road this summer...ciao. Grakkl --------------------------------- You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Jun 11 08:13:49 2007 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:13:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Summer '07 festivals In-Reply-To: <236047.83639.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2007, at 12:48 PM, Keith Henderson wrote: > Now I have to find out where to pick up one of these Solio solar > chargers, so I don't have to pay for electricity on the road. I > haven't seen one in the stores here...are they available in the UK > (Nottingham for example?). The only place I've seen solar chargers for mobile phones, MP3 players, etc. for sale is in airports. Mind you, that's not to say you can't get them elsewhere; I just don't shop very much and so that's the only place I remember seeing them. I'd recommend, then, looking in places that sell "travel accessories" as a good bet. Safe travels! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 11 09:38:02 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:38:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Summer '07 festivals In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:48:04 -0700 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > Hope to see a bunch of you here and there, if not at Hawkfest > itself. Hopefully they'll let me in, as my HW passport is still in > storage in Switzerland I do believe. Hey Keith - come and camp with us again. Hopefully we'll arrive pretty close to noon on Friday... FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 11 05:27:42 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:27:42 -0500 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) Message-ID: sorry folks had the first mail not gotten filtered I wouldn't have done at least one of these, I know I'm looking (REAL) stupid, but this one is purely proper.....Mary, there was no encore at The Palace.......that was my first Hawkwind show.....the people in that audience seemed like snobs (double that) to me, they didn't really cheer, and I remember having a strange feeling when it was over, even having thought about Texas, and noise-making, and encores, wondering if CA "behaved differently".......the "way" Hawkwind played at San Diego was totally different from the way they played at Palace (which I have attributed to the recording process)......I think that show was a wrong first show for me.........now if you correct me about an encore I may need to see a doctor for meds as I will never understand that my memory could ever be less than deadly-accurate on that, but since you were working for the band and you are my friend, I won't trifle about it...... by the way I was born in LA, so to me that was kinda "going home"...I was VERY dissappointed at my birthplace, not just the Hawkwind show,,,,but I did find Motorhead self-titled CD at the Rock Cave on Big Beat, which at the time, was a pretty nice find.... On 6/11/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > Hi Mike, > I appreciate your concern, but I have a lot of friends looking out for me > at > the festival. With respect to Palace Springs, actually, there was a > double > encore Of Needle Gun and Ejection, Often times bands don't put the first > or > last songs on an album, the first is they're getting the sound > right, from > a sound check to an empty room, to a room full of people. The set was > fairly similar to San Diego. > > Stay cool, > > Kaduflyer > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Jun 11 11:19:21 2007 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:19:21 +0200 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706110227w64447af4p4f2073af6b569c43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike I agree with Mary. They did NEEDLE GUND and EJECTION in the encore of the Palace set on 10.10.89 Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of mike coleman Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:28 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) sorry folks had the first mail not gotten filtered I wouldn't have done at least one of these, I know I'm looking (REAL) stupid, but this one is purely proper.....Mary, there was no encore at The Palace.......that was my first Hawkwind show.....the people in that audience seemed like snobs (double that) to me, they didn't really cheer, and I remember having a strange feeling when it was over, even having thought about Texas, and noise-making, and encores, wondering if CA "behaved differently".......the "way" Hawkwind played at San Diego was totally different from the way they played at Palace (which I have attributed to the recording process)......I think that show was a wrong first show for me.........now if you correct me about an encore I may need to see a doctor for meds as I will never understand that my memory could ever be less than deadly-accurate on that, but since you were working for the band and you are my friend, I won't trifle about it...... by the way I was born in LA, so to me that was kinda "going home"...I was VERY dissappointed at my birthplace, not just the Hawkwind show,,,,but I did find Motorhead self-titled CD at the Rock Cave on Big Beat, which at the time, was a pretty nice find.... On 6/11/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > Hi Mike, > I appreciate your concern, but I have a lot of friends looking out for > me at the festival. With respect to Palace Springs, actually, there > was a double encore Of Needle Gun and Ejection, Often times bands > don't put the first or last songs on an album, the first is they're > getting the sound right, from a sound check to an empty room, to a > room full of people. The set was fairly similar to San Diego. > > Stay cool, > > Kaduflyer > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 11 11:41:51 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:41:51 -0500 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <1Hxlfd-2A8Z9c0@fwd32.sul.t-online.de> Message-ID: >>>On 6/11/07, bernhard.pospiech wrote: > > >>>Hi Mike > >>>I agree with Mary. > >>They did NEEDLE GUND and EJECTION in the encore of the Palace set on > >>>10.10.89 > > > well alrighty then!!!! weeeeee! anyway,,,,,hmm...cough....err........yeah > I called Mary at 4:30 in the morning (grin) but we didn't cover that base > much......imagining you didn't actually attend that show, but maybe you > did.......so then I say this.....I was pissed off and looking for > blood.......somebody could have got hurt,,,,,I was NOT a happy Hawkwind fan > AT ALL..... people in the audience were chattering amongst themselves in a way that struck me wrong........so now my question would be,,,,,was there a LONG delay before the encores, because if so I had already left looking for a fight (which we almost got the next night with the then "new" singer for St. Vitus and another friend of his, who could "smell" we were not local, but "sensed" our power..was weird...(Kolby would have got 'em) (me, I was about to run, and run so fast)......OR was the encore practically "blended in"??? bright note: people shopping for Hawkwind vinyl next day, including cute girl buying the "Hawkwind comes to life" LP, and me finding a copy of Warrior in shrink so all got better...... From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 11 14:20:30 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:20:30 -0400 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706110227w64447af4p4f2073af6b569c43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You're wrong about the encore, because after the show Harvey and Richard were talking about how they could have done another set. I'm positive. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 11 14:22:27 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:22:27 -0400 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <1Hxlfd-2A8Z9c0@fwd32.sul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Thanks Bernhard, a friendly feud with respect to the encore. , I only argue a point when I know I'm right I hope you're doing well.. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 11 14:27:39 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:27:39 -0400 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706110841g7098036fh65059aa987ea6a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: No, there wasn't that long a wait, that opening band was something, ha? They did all '70's covers, if you didn't like them when they first came out, you wouldn't have liked the band. The Hawkwind set was great, you always get barflies standing around talking, stand close to the board in the future, Mike, that should cut down on the noise pollution. Love in Space, Mary From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 11 14:26:46 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:26:46 -0500 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree Message-ID: *I have been trying to occupy myself by explaining to womenfolk from the list that I am really nice, but we have just discovered that my Yule Ritual has "Money Tree" and hers does not* *I can imagine you all already know about this but I was in the looney bin and I know you'll undertsand my grave concern* *so what does SHE have that I DON'T????* *hurry please or I'll kill another kitten (in an ever more creative fashion...blame YOUTUBE and Mark Owen)* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 11 14:46:47 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:46:47 -0500 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I missed the first act, you know how it is.......also, I realised.....I was "biased" about the LA crowd as they all seemed polystyrene........and they were packed so thick I couldn't get a view.......so I became the barfly at the back....... my bad my bad and I wasn't feuding, not with you, just stating my recall and I am WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG gotta go get one of god-knows-how-many-baths ps-I "sensed" most didn't know Hawkwind very well at that time....OBVIOUSLY many Hawkwind "heavies" were there, but I mean in general......didn't like it cool club tho with the "tubes" that allowed music to flow into the front area, etc On 6/11/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > No, there wasn't that long a wait, that opening band was something, ha? > They did all '70's covers, if you didn't like them when they first came > out, > you wouldn't have liked the band. The Hawkwind set was great, you always > get barflies standing around talking, stand close to the board in the > future, Mike, that should cut down on the noise pollution. > > Love in Space, > > Mary > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Jun 12 02:01:41 2007 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:01:41 +0200 Subject: Alan Davey / Bedouin Message-ID: Hi folks there are some interesting news on this site http://www.alandaveymusic.co.uk/info.htm cheers Bernhard From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 12 07:25:58 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:25:58 +0100 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: vzenv14m's message of Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:22:27 -0400 Message-ID: vzenv14m writes: > Thanks Bernhard, a friendly feud with respect to the encore. , I only argue > a point when I know I'm right I hope you're doing well.. That's just negative thinking. I always know I'm right. Even when I'm wrong ;-) FoFP From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 07:58:52 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:58:52 -0400 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706110841g7098036fh65059aa987ea6a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, I did make a small mistake, not to the bands that performed the night of Palace Springs, but it was in San Diego where they had the '70's cover band open for Hawkwind, that was weird. In San Francisco, the sign read, "subject to change, King of Kings, and Hawkwind." Having traveled on the Greyhound to get there we freaked when we read Subject to Change, thankfully, it turned out to be the name of the band. I remember Harvey did a nice melody line on Winds of Change, when I complimented him on it, he said it sounded the way it did because he was depressed. I let him know it would be nice to hear it that way without the depression. I don't remember it, but someone in a letter to the flyer was totally outraged because we gave Subject to Change a fairly positive review, he claimed they said they were a CIA experiment, maybe so, I had a migraine from some Chinese food laced with MSG and don't really remember their set. I let Chris handle that review It was really funny, we got to the Stone 15 minutes before the band, and they freaked when they saw we made it. A friend, slipped us some money, and told us he'd take care of us if we made it to the west coast, and he sure did. If said person is on the list, drop me a line, I'd love to hear from you, you made it possible for us to do the entire U.S. tour. You know who you are, so if you're out there please write. Fly on, Kaduflyer. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 08:03:13 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:03:13 -0400 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706111146t60cbb648p7d88f522aa6af002@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: In other words you didn't miss anything. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 08:06:20 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:06:20 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706111126p41d89d62l11fcb57824c4a981@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: beware against killing kittens, read the story by Lovecraft, The Cats of Althaur, (I'm sure I screwed up the spelling, but you'll never even jokingly think a mean thought about a kitten. If you can't find the story, I'll tell it to you, I know, you weren't being serious. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 08:13:42 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:13:42 -0400 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <200706121125.l5CBPwYP023043@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: FoFP? Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 11 20:15:06 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:15:06 -0500 Subject: 3 HW Shows-Fire In The Trash Message-ID: The westwind blew "yes New York show" in my ear...Steve... after writhing and squirming rather than resting today due to the humidity level caused by people who insist the world needs their offspring in it because one of the kids might do what they actually want, I noticed a beeping in the heart (like the red batphone) and was summoned to dig through the dirty clothes to find the lesser evil, in order that I might suffer unto the mailbox........ well, sure enough, my ICU shish-ka-bob somehow cleared customs and is ready for it's first misshapen (misshapen after what WE'RE gonna do) head...... *I JUST CANNOT WAIT.....so many heads, so little time.....muhaha mahaha..... * *but wait!!! theres MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!* *to prime me for the athletical skills I will need, my 5th CD copy of On Parole arrived, and not the one I thought......this one's an Aussie original instead of a Caroline copy I thought...weeeeeeeeeeeeeee* *since it's ok for me to partake of food (I don't reproduce and I know why gay people exist), but I generally don't, I guess I'll be ordering the 7th and 8th copies in short order* *ALSO, God sympathised with me that my original EMI version was sacrificed to Lazza and Ian when the nicely packaged but inferior USA version was shared, in hopes the world might evolve.......my replacement has the original (beautiful) 7pound 99 pence EMI sticker on the jewel........* *if you all don't make a mad rush to order the remastered and revamped "Revolution and Rebellion" with the totally rightous label (you'll like it).....I will be removing Trevor from the UK and bringing him here where stardom proper can be achieved.......* *now go spoil the shit out of your CHILDREN or I will put you on my list* *Kill! Er!!!* From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 08:30:00 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:30:00 -0400 Subject: 3 HW Shows-Fire In The Trash In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706111715j1b09ab51r6bf65876b33084de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Let Trev know I thought the lyrics to Money Tree are Brilliant, and he's got the talent to make it on his own, any other way of looking at it is putting himself down. He like Nik is a unique and brilliant person. Granted, I haven't heard a lot of ICU, but their writing is thought provoking, and the music is great, so to Trev, "You can do it, you're brilliant." Love in Space, Kaduflyer From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Tue Jun 12 09:12:35 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:12:35 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting vzenv14m : > beware against killing kittens, read the story by Lovecraft, The Cats of > Althaur, (I'm sure I screwed up the spelling, but you'll never even jokingly > think a mean thought about a kitten. If you can't find the story, I'll tell > it to you, I know, you weren't being serious. Or A Dream of a Thousand Cats from the Sandman stories by Neil Gaiman. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 12 09:10:53 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:10:53 -0500 Subject: 3 HW Shows-Fire In The Trash In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <<< wrote:Let Trev know I thought the lyrics to Money Tree are >>>>Brilliant,<<>>> sweetsiepoopums, I won't have to, Trev is on this list.......let's hope he and Ronald get on enough that he forwards your response........ I didn't send you "speaking in tongues", I was flirting with a married lady and she's the only one who got those........but I am sure Trev would like to know what you thought of "OOOOO That Clinking Clanking Sound" now let's hope you haven't got me in trouble with an Agent Of Chaos who I was already in trouble with From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 12 09:30:00 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:30:00 -0500 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <20070612091235.pnv0pycw04o084cc@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: >>>On 6/12/07, David Kuznick wrote: >>>Or A Dream of a Thousand Cats from the Sandman stories by Neil Gaiman *My friend Mark LOVES Neil.....he's got the graphic novels and such.......the cats have taken him over and it is their apartment, not Mark's ......Atilla is a God, Ivan is a Satan......* *I gave him my copy of "smoke and mirrors" because I am insane and I can't read anything but old UFO books* *I have ferrel cats that know me and will approach me......* *my heart is with the ferrel possums though, I like the way they drool after feasting on grapes.....* **"Ciggie Cop" (TM) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 12 11:28:43 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:28:43 +0100 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: vzenv14m's message of Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:13:42 -0400 Message-ID: vzenv14m writes: > FoFP? > > Kaduflyer Friend of Fernando Poo From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 12:55:55 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:55:55 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <20070612091235.pnv0pycw04o084cc@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: Hi Dave, I'm not familiar with that story, I'll see if my downloading service has it, what's available in braille or tape is very limited, I'll let you know if I am able to find it. Many thanks, Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 13:13:06 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:13:06 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706120630q7c0da277vdb825a76fd1fae9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Any cat people have any ideas on how to change my cat's circadian rhythm, and get him to eat dry food? I've tried ignoring him at 5 in the morning, but he doesn't give up, he'll meow for a few hours, getting progressively louder, and more destructive. All he'll willingly eat is Fancy Feast, which I don't like giving him. People say, if you leave a cat long enough he'll eat what he has, not this guy. I won't go into detail on how he harasses me into giving him what he wants, but several vets have told me not to let him go for over a day without food, because that can cause liver damage. I've tried giving him the minimum amount of canned stuff to survive on, and he became a terror. I've had several cats, 1 of which I was told as a kitten I'd never get to eat anything but 9 Lives well, I had him eating Purina in 2 weeks. Kosh is a strange cat. He was anemic as a kitten, so maybe I over compensated. I'm going to have to find someone to come in and give him a can a day, and he'll have to eat the other stuff while I'm going to the shows. I've done this before, while in hospital with migraines, and he did eat the dry food, then. The last case was aggravated because I had to board him out I realize, this is a Hawkwind forum, and not 1 for cats, but I don't want to be worried about him during the shows. Seriously, though, any ideas are welcomed, and if I've offended anyone's sense of the nature of this group I'm sorry. I can hardly wait till Near Fest. Peace, and Meow, Mary and Kosh. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 13:15:58 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:15:58 -0400 Subject: 3 HW Shows-Fire In The Trash In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706120610j7ea4e1fegb6467480b666464e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: There's a paradox "now let's hope you haven't got me in trouble with an Agent Of Chaos who I was already in trouble with" Kaduflyer, From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Tue Jun 12 13:17:18 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:17:18 -0400 Subject: Palace Springs 1989, Oct 10th...right! (was Ozrics) In-Reply-To: <200706121528.l5CFShcv029131@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Thanks, I didn't know what to make of that. Kaduflyer From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 12 12:55:48 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:55:48 -0500 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706120630q7c0da277vdb825a76fd1fae9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: *I have a saying first born to my Catholic-wannabe-in-training-priest......it goes "Who The F*ck Do You Think I Am"????* *if you call this quick you MUST be joking.........I have compromised this ONE time and taken a fat fully grown cat and used it for a water-balloon on a car windshield from up on a bridge......I knew how limber felines are so it lived, but judging from the screech it's never going to be the same........* *I can come right through your monitors and enter you physical body and do things.......* *I have evolved and "moved ahead" since I was last in this arena........doesn't look like a lot has gone forward here since before..... * *you think sillence would work on ME?????? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahweeeeeeeeeeeeee* *now I will help you a little since I realize we do have innocent blood here and one of them may be willing to help if they just know more......* *it appears I do NOT, in fact, have MONEY TREE, as my copy simply lists the song..........so can you just tell me if all we have is a printing mis-press or if the later pressings have music I do not......* *also, WHERE IS Money Tree to be found??? well??? (foot tapping) hmmm??? (drooling)* *Shivering Jemmy Of The Shallow Brigade, "Princest Of Chaos"* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 12 13:25:22 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:25:22 -0500 Subject: (Off Topic) HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree Message-ID: They've got another forum if they can't take it.........I couldn't seem to get Mark any help with Ivan even from Cathryn who has nine in their condo, 3 in their million-plus dollar home, who are the only residents of that home, and a slew of ferrel ones coming to feed daily, but maybe they could help you I'm a little miffed/tiffed at them at the moment but I am due to contact them Lemme know...... ps-Mark got angry when I read him my mail so I pray we don't have any "Owen's" on this list..........but he sits and does nothing but kill things on his computer ALL DAY LONG when he is not at work...after I pointed that out, he shut his trap. Love Michael On 6/12/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > Any cat people have any ideas on how to change my cat's circadian rhythm, > and get him to eat dry food? I've tried ignoring him at 5 in the morning, > but he doesn't give up, he'll meow for a few hours, getting progressively > louder, and more destructive. All he'll willingly eat is Fancy Feast, > which I don't like giving him. People say, if you leave a cat long enough > he'll eat what he has, not this guy. I won't go into detail on how he > harasses me into giving him what he wants, but several vets have told me > not > to let him go for over a day without food, because that can cause liver > damage. I've tried giving him the minimum amount of canned stuff to > survive > on, and he became a terror. > I've had several cats, 1 of which I was told as a kitten I'd never get to > eat anything but 9 Lives well, I had him eating Purina in 2 weeks. Kosh > is > a strange cat. He was anemic as a kitten, so maybe I over > compensated. I'm > going to have to find someone to come in and give him a can a day, and > he'll > have to eat the other stuff while I'm going to the shows. I've done this > before, while in hospital with migraines, and he did eat the dry food, > then. > The last case was aggravated because I had to board him out I realize, > this > is a Hawkwind forum, and not 1 for cats, but I don't want to be worried > about him during the shows. Seriously, though, any ideas are welcomed, > and > if I've offended anyone's sense of the nature of this group I'm sorry. I > can hardly wait till Near Fest. > > Peace, and Meow, > > Mary and Kosh. > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jun 13 08:00:25 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:00:25 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <20070612091235.pnv0pycw04o084cc@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: Greetings, Dave, Unfortunately, Dream of a thousand cats isn't available to me, I tried all my sources, hopefully, someone will donate a copy to Bookshare, then I will be able to read it. Cats are people too, Kaduflyer From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Wed Jun 13 08:12:21 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:12:21 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:00:25AM -0400, vzenv14m wrote: > Greetings, Dave, > Unfortunately, Dream of a thousand cats isn't available to me, I tried all > my sources, hopefully, someone will donate a copy to Bookshare, then I will > be able to read it. > > Cats are people too, > > Kaduflyer All the old Sandman issues have been collected as graphic novels, which you can buy from Amazon or any good comic store. I forget which one contains "Dream", but it's one of the first 3 or 4 anyway. Steve From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Wed Jun 13 10:12:08 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:12:08 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting vzenv14m : > Greetings, Dave, > Unfortunately, Dream of a thousand cats isn't available to me, I tried all > my sources, hopefully, someone will donate a copy to Bookshare, then I will > be able to read it. I'm not surprised given that it's a comic book, unfortunately. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From clyvedon.press at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Jun 13 10:08:17 2007 From: clyvedon.press at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Chris Purdon / Clyvedon Press) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:08:17 +0100 Subject: New book announcement: Robert Calvert anthology Message-ID: Hello everyone, I am delighted to formally announce the publication by The Clyvedon Press in 2008 of a new, fully authorised, casebound edition of the written work of Robert Calvert. Compiled with the full authorisation and involvement of Jill, Robert's widow, the book will comprise his poems, stories and plays. The contents of the book will include: . Re-set versions of Centigrade 232 and The Earth Ritual . Little-known poems including: Voices in the Wind; Decorating; Empty Shells; Bicyclepoem; The Action Man Explains; The Sad Ballad of a Soldier; August Stramm in a Garden; Event (for Jill); Three Men in a Boat; Sound Poem; Photo Finish; Canal Path Travelogue . Stories and prose including: The Toad; Street Theatre Police Brutality Read All Abaht It!; The Last of the Listening Ears; Reclusion; The Young Man and the Sea; Morning - And the Hour-Glass Whispers; Cattle at Twilight; 8 Days a Week . Plays to include: Box; The Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Dice; Mirror Mirror; Roar of the Sealion This list is not exhaustive, and material is still being researched and gathered. If you have any of Robert's writings that you think might be suitable for inclusion, please contact me at the address below. In particular, we would like to include Robert's play about Brian Jones and Donald Crowhurst, the manuscript for which is missing. Otherwise, if you think you can help in any way, we would be delighted to hear from you. Bibliographic and contact details: Casebound, approximately 300 pages. Price and ISBN to be confirmed; publication date 2008. In conjunction with the launch of the book, there will also be a Robert Calvert event in 2008 at Pentameters Theatre, Hampstead, London, organised by Leonie Scott-Matthews. This will take the form of one of the plays being staged, or a week of different events each night. Clyvedon Press is not taking orders for the book yet. However, if you wish to be kept informed or express your interest in purchasing the book, please send or e-mail your contact details to me at the address below. Your details will not be supplied to any third party and will be used solely to keep you informed about the book. I shall also be at this weekend's Hawkfest, so you can speak to me there if you wish. With kind reagrds to all, Chris Purdon The Clyvedon Press Ltd 95 Maes-y-Sarn Pentyrch, Cardiff CF15 9QR UK E-mail: Clyvedon.press at btopenworld.com From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Wed Jun 13 10:59:49 2007 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (Space Rock Spectacular 2007) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:59:49 +0100 Subject: Space Rock Spectacular tickets now available Message-ID: Underground Zero + Dr Hasbeen + Assassins of Silence + Peyote Mothership + Xoo + Dj Kozmik Ken. Special guests: Harvey Bainbridge and Huw Lloyd Langton. 20th october. OX14 4LF The online payment will be up and running in the next couple of days. meanwhile if you want tickets send us a message and some will be put aside. ?6 advance, it will be ?8 on the door From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 13 10:56:47 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:56:47 -0500 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: *<<<*On 6/13/07, vzenv14m maryann.sullivan1 at verizon.net> wrote*>> wrote>>> * <<> *oh geez to think I would have left them* *I'll see if Mark can tell where the rodent-killer story is, that way you can donate it* From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Wed Jun 13 13:02:11 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:02:11 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <20070613121221.GA24296@plutonia.com> Message-ID: Hi Steve, Being blind a graphic novel doesn't do me much good, I still don't know what happens in the graphic novel of Ledge of Darkness. thanks for the info, maybe I'll find them and get someone to read and describe them. Your friend, Kaduflyer From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Jun 14 06:32:19 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:32:19 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 01:02:11PM -0400, vzenv14m wrote: > Hi Steve, > Being blind a graphic novel doesn't do me much good, I still don't know what > happens in the graphic novel of Ledge of Darkness. > thanks for the info, maybe I'll find them and get someone to read and > describe them. Well, for what it's worth, the story is told very much as a narrative, and is more of an illustrated novelette than a comic book. So, the lack of illustrations won't be a significant hindrance to understanding or enjoying it. Steve From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 14 10:17:59 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:17:59 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <20070614103219.GA22716@plutonia.com> Message-ID: cool From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Jun 14 12:33:13 2007 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:33:13 +0000 Subject: HW: about the Allentown PA show 6/24::Is this confirmed? Do they have visas? Message-ID: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could confirm whether or not the Hawkwind gig in Allentown PA on June 24th is a definite 'GO'. I'm trying to make special arrangements with my work to have off on Monday ( and then work the following Friday ), so that I can chill out and camp after the show. The thing is, with Hawkwind's visa history ( or lack of it ), I really need to know by early next week if the show is actually happening??Can anyboday provide this info on list and also back burner to me at: sloterdijk at msn.com I sure hope it's on!!! Peace, Mike Burro ( SLOTERDIJK ) http://www.myspace.com/sloterdijk1 _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazine?s 2007 editors? choice for best Web mail?award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 13 23:45:01 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:45:01 -0500 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <20070613121221.GA24296@plutonia.com> Message-ID: >>Steve Swan relayed: >>All the old Sandman issues have been collected as graphic >>novels, which you can buy from Amazon or any good comic >>store. I forget which one contains "Dream", but it's one >>of the first 3 or 4 anyway. *it's in issue 18, which my friend doesn't have,,,,,,,* *mike* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 13 23:52:29 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:52:29 -0500 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706132045q72b0941flb47f5c5698a9bfe7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: *just in case: (sorry, meant to include with prior post)* *my surely first run Yule Ritual simply has a typo and is the same as later copies* *BUT, there's one with Hippy....* *thanks Hawkwind and "Meowing Cat Studios" just wouldn't have cut it for me* *Dogs=can be vegan* *Cats=can't be done* ** From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 14 00:12:09 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:12:09 -0500 Subject: Commandment Demandment Message-ID: *you will give us all existing Captain Jesus recordings in digital format, or I will seriously consider tucking you safely in Heaven and you will sin not* *(no paper was used in my own injection....it's tricky)* If I could inject myself with printed paper I might evolve into a money tree Money don't grow they print it on dead trees I'm no printed paper fool with queenface on me Humanity no mystery Forced to climb the money tree Now I'm free and it's pure ecstacy It's a cash machine injection 24 hour transaction We can't eat the money polystyrene or cardboard Sending all the money in a world insane Mashed up trees are folded into different shaped boxes Whilst we never stop from buying products of pain Watch me as I write upon this piece of paper Which was once a tree not just a money tree too All the trees it takes to shape and sail an armada Extinction of a species from whence money was borne Humanity no mystery Forced to climb the money tree Now I'm free and it's pure ecstacy It's a cash machine injection 24 hour transaction If I could inject myself with printed paper I might evolve into a money tree Money don't grow they print it on dead trees I'm no printed paper fool with queenface on me Humanity no mystery Forced to climb the money tree Now I'm free and it's pure ecstacy It's a cash machine injection 24 hour transaction From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Thu Jun 14 12:11:17 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:11:17 -0500 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: as a message of love to each and everyone here that has been so kind so far, I put the lyrics to Money Tree up, but to me it looks like they haven't come through since I seem to get filtered if I title a subject line, but not if I respond to one...... If they didn't come through I'd suggest emailing Ben, but I know better....blame Steven Swan and then there's another......hmm ps- Steve,,,,,saw where Blue Oyster Cult apparently took the guys in Bastard under their wing and became like the first major act to carry them with??? according to Wikipedia... and in that moment I was humbled........hushed........taught........., etc, etc. I've mailed Larry Wallis and I'm afraid...... I do NOT have permission to have given you Money Tree since it's apparently NOT grabable online, and for god sakes, perfomance rights you MUST clear through your nearest agent of chaos From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 14 16:29:28 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:29:28 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706140911v75c12b30v3ca9cd9391aaae9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I got 'em Mary From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 14 20:20:58 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:20:58 -0400 Subject: HW YULE RITUAL...Money Tree In-Reply-To: <20070614103219.GA22716@plutonia.com> Message-ID: I've got a friend that's really into all the Sandman comics, I didn't know he was into them, but Chris told me today, so maybe I can get him to read me a story. I need a bedtime story, could anyone tell me the story of what happens to MS. Ming, from Legends from the End of Time? I found her to be a character that one loves to hate. I finally found out the connection between Elric, and Lord Jagged when I read Elric at the End of Time, I got a good laugh out of that. That Jagged is a manipulative character, all that End of Time stuff was a lot of fun. Happy trails, Kaduflyer From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jun 15 05:00:44 2007 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:00:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: <17d80c610705180530r12aa4275i6e9f37d44158815c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 07:30:14AM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > *so what about how Richard is most proficient Hawkwind drummer, etc??* I reckon so, as long as proficiency is all you mean. Richard's technical ability, flawless timing and obsession with robots having sex is second to none on the HW drum stool. (Second place must go to Alan Powell? The version of `Brainstorm' on _Atomhenge 76_ shows just what having two drummers can do for a rock band...) Just at times one yearns for a bit more rolling thunder out of him like Simon King's gratuitous kettle-drum abuse, and a bit less dance-steady roboticness. The gig, I think it was the Forum in 2002? when Danny Thompson was being second drummer in places, and then took one song (`Sword of the East'? Damn my failing memory, and I haven't time or a decent mailer to search for my gig review) by himself was good in this respect, because Richard came back on sounding much less like a drum machine. As if Danny had out-rawked him and now he had to level up. That was good. Yours, Jon -- "When fortune wanes, of what assistance are quantities of elephants?" (Juvaini, Afghan Muslim chronicler, c. 1206) Jon Jarrett, Fitzwilliam Museum, jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jun 15 05:16:52 2007 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:16:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: <20070615090044.GC12234@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 15 Jun 2007, at 10:00 AM, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 07:30:14AM -0500, mike coleman typed out: > > > >> *so what about how Richard is most proficient Hawkwind drummer, >> etc??* > > I reckon so, as long as proficiency is all you mean. Richard's > technical ability, flawless timing and obsession with robots having > sex > is second to none on the HW drum stool. If proficiency is your yardstick, surely the title goes to Ginger Baker, then? I don't know about the obsession with robots having sex part, though. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Fri Jun 15 07:05:39 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:05:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 10:16:52AM +0100, Paul Mather wrote: > On 15 Jun 2007, at 10:00 AM, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > >>*so what about how Richard is most proficient Hawkwind drummer, > >>etc??* > > > > I reckon so, as long as proficiency is all you mean. Richard's > >technical ability, flawless timing and obsession with robots having > >sex > >is second to none on the HW drum stool. > > If proficiency is your yardstick, surely the title goes to Ginger > Baker, then? I don't know about the obsession with robots having sex > part, though. The first time I heard World of Tiers, I thought "Damn, who's that drummer?!" If you want a clear cut example of how he stepped it up a notch, compare the Motorway City recordings from Live '79 and Levitation. It's problematic that I pay attention to drumming, because so much rock-n-roll drumming is soooo bad. If I could just ignore it, I would enjoy a lot more music. But especially a lot of rock & roll producers seem to take a sadistic delight in mixing bad WHACK-WHACK-WHACK type drumming way forward in the mix, so it's like being assaulted by a three year old with a toy drum. Steve From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Jun 15 07:05:22 2007 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:05:22 +0100 Subject: JON JARRET NARROWLY ESCAPES TERRORIST BOMB BLAST was NIK/OFF: Litmus & Inner City Unit, The Standard, Walthamstow, 11/05/07 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/06/2007 16:14, trev wrote: > The Pime Minister declined to comment officially on the situation I wanted to read that as the "Pie Minister", which would also be a good kind of minister to have .... -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Jun 15 07:12:33 2007 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:12:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: <20070615110538.GA12713@plutonia.com> Message-ID: On 15/06/2007 12:05, Stephen Swann wrote: > It's problematic that I pay attention to drumming, because > so much rock-n-roll drumming is soooo bad. If I could just > ignore it, I would enjoy a lot more music. But especially a > lot of rock & roll producers seem to take a sadistic delight > in mixing bad WHACK-WHACK-WHACK type drumming way forward > in the mix, so it's like being assaulted by a three year > old with a toy drum. I agree with the assessment, though strangely that comes as something of relief to me when I'm trying (as non-drummer, or at least untrained drummer) to do my own drum programming. The lowered bar makes me look taller ;) and I need all the altitude I can get! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From delta-wave at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 16 04:05:52 2007 From: delta-wave at HOTMAIL.COM (SUBSCRIBE BOC-L Anonymous) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:05:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:16:52 +0100, Paul Mather wrote: > I don't know about the obsession with robots having sex >part, though. Hawkdiscs may be getting fantastic distribution stateside (my experience last time was what I would remember as domestic prices) but Japan must sadly not be getting the same convenience They've just unveiled a humanoid toddler with which they intend to study, well, toddlers I suppose not the robot nor the love I had in mind (when I get killed I regenerate, of course, wouldn't recommend removing any parts as everybody knows what happens then) I'm so full of it nobody killed me From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 16 08:02:36 2007 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:02:36 +0000 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: They also have an obsession with "looking in the future", which is handy for EMI, because when they release Hawkwind-the 40 year anthology triple cd in 2 years time, it SHOULD be exactly the same as the 30 year anthology.lol :) >From: SUBSCRIBE BOC-L Anonymous >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: Space Ritual + DVD >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:05:52 -0400 > >On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:16:52 +0100, Paul Mather > wrote: > > I don't know about the obsession with robots having sex > >part, though. >Hawkdiscs may be getting fantastic distribution stateside (my experience >last >time was what I would remember as domestic prices) but Japan must sadly not >be getting the same convenience >They've just unveiled a humanoid toddler with which they intend to study, >well, toddlers I suppose >not the robot nor the love I had in mind >(when I get killed I regenerate, of course, wouldn't recommend removing any >parts as everybody knows what happens then) >I'm so full of it >nobody killed me _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 16 08:11:17 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:11:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good morning I read an article somewhere about South Korea, and their use of robots from domestic chores, to defense on the boarder, (spooky). I don't know much about drummers, but I think Richard not only is a drummer but as a person, is the most solid centered person I know, and that's reflected in his drumming. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 16 08:23:17 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:23:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What's this "lol" I'm finding in lots of messages? Kaduflyer From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Jun 16 08:40:50 2007 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 05:40:50 -0700 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Stands for 'Laughing Out Loud', Mary. Best, Ian vzenv14m wrote: What's this "lol" I'm finding in lots of messages? Kaduflyer --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 16 08:54:32 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:54:32 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: <21751.56092.qm@web26905.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian, Thanks, Mare From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Sat Jun 16 09:04:33 2007 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (Space Rock Spectacular 2007) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:04:33 +0100 Subject: Space rock spectacular ticket available online now Message-ID: Tickets for the October Space Rock Spectacular are now available here: http://www.assassinsofsilence.com/srs.htm There are some on ebay here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220122527932&rd=1&rd=1 The show features Underground Zero, Dr Hasbeen, Assassins of Silence, Peyote Mothership and Xoo. DJ is Kozmik Ken, special guests are Harvey Bainbridge and Huw Lloyd Langton. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 16 09:30:03 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:30:03 -0400 Subject: Space rock spectacular ticket available online now In-Reply-To: <001201c7b016$e3e67990$0200a8c0@tony> Message-ID: Greetings, If you're that spacy, beam me over, my birthday's in October, but I don't have a passport, come on, you can do it! Seriously, it sounds like a great time, I'd love to get to spend time with Harvey and everyone else, Harvey and I are friends. I wish everyone that is there a high time. Fly on, Kaduflyer From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 16 10:14:19 2007 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:14:19 +0000 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A mate of mine(male) thought it meant "lots of love"..so when i kept putting lol in emails or texts to him, he started getting a bit worried.. lol :) Pete >From: vzenv14m >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: Space Ritual + DVD >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 08:54:32 -0400 > >Hi Ian, >Thanks, > >Mare _________________________________________________________________ Win tickets to the sold out Live Earth concert! http://liveearth.uk.msn.com From delta-wave at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 16 11:52:16 2007 From: delta-wave at HOTMAIL.COM (SUBSCRIBE BOC-L Anonymous) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:52:16 -0400 Subject: Ali Goes To The S R S Message-ID: now that I drew you in, it's a trick of light, but I did get a private message that you have to go to the Space Rock Spectacular...... I have a favor to ask, would some kind soul that is purchasing the new BEDOUIN LIVE 4track (recording from 98), (and I know EVERYONE on here has already ordered it, unless finances hinder), please tell Alan that there is a mentally unsound fan named Mike Coleman who is blaming him for forcing him to climb a money tree (the oncoming 200+ dollar air-bill doesn't help either, but he can't be bothered with that useless boring info), and asks if he would shelve 1 CD of EVERYTHING he's done since, say, er, to be safe, March of 2002, and to please be very patient, as it could be quite a while for Mike to figure out how to dress, keep evil hair from looking ridiculous in public, how to hustle for employment with nothing to put down, how to communicate in a way people understand, how to not say I WILL CUT YOUR HEAD OFF, to people who are supposed to be friendly acquaintances, etc and BTW, I thought LOL, was "Lots Of Love" for an eternity, and every-time I see it, my mind still wants to think that, and I have and do use it for that purpose intentionally LOL-the love one, and not sex, LOVE From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 16 12:38:15 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:38:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That's funny. lol (take it as you like). Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 16 12:43:32 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:43:32 -0400 Subject: Ali Goes To The S R S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've known Mike for a long time, and a lot of what he says is to try and get a rise out of people, demented, maybe, but there's a kind soul under it all. Do as you see fit, but I have to express my opinion on this matter. lol Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 16 12:48:23 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:48:23 -0400 Subject: Ali Goes To The S R S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If I had the money I'd be there I'm blowing my stash on going to the festival, luckily being a vegetarian is cheaper than being a meat eater, so I may not be able to afford CDs, for now, but I'll be able to eat. If anyone does get in touch with Alan, PLEASE pass him my address, and let him know "Madam Quantum would love to hear from him," (madam Quantum is an inside joke), please pass it along? Peace, Kaduflyer From delta-wave at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 16 13:04:05 2007 From: delta-wave at HOTMAIL.COM (SUBSCRIBE BOC-L Anonymous) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:04:05 -0400 Subject: Keith Kniveton and stage hat Message-ID: back in 2002, when my neighbors decided that living next to me was causing their perfectly manicured lawns which were groomed to look exactly like all the other lawns to DIE, well actually they were just terrified of me because they discovered calling the police was completely useless since Mike found them sexy (actually the Police AND the neighbors) and would leave notes on the door saying "Dear Dallas Police, the beer and music MUST go on, PLEASE do NOT break my window, I will give you gas money, love Mike"......and that was getting them no results and faxing me at 3am wasn't either, they were overjoyed at overhearing things like "I will kill you" , etc, and reported me as a danger to my mother...whereby I was legally removed from my home and seperated from my personal gift from God......(you'd be proud, they had to chase me all over Dallas JUST missing me every time, including back to the home, and it took them AGES to ever find me, by the Sheriff Constable himself, and when he did find me, you could see the personal repect and the kindness with which the legal papers were finally able to be served.......hey I was trying to protect all that Hawkgear)...so anyway, I never thought I wouldn't get to go back in the house for the good stuff........ Keith was an actual personal friend of mine (which makes sense if you think about it) and I owed him a rare 45 he had been patiently waiting for while I made myself sick with unfulfilled sexual fantasies)....anyway, that sets the stage for me to ask.....WHERE and HOW is he, and is anyone here close to him and know if he still collects Hawkwind items at random, etc.......what he is doing/playing, and if he wants any of my bootleg CD's or even worse and more painful...... help me mike see From delta-wave at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jun 16 13:27:18 2007 From: delta-wave at HOTMAIL.COM (SUBSCRIBE BOC-L Anonymous) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:27:18 -0400 Subject: (strayed and frayed OFF) Ali Goes To The S R S Message-ID: On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:43:32 -0400, vzenv14m wrote: >I've known Mike for a long time, and a lot of what he says is to try and get >a rise out of people, demented, maybe, but there's a kind soul under it all. >Do as you see fit, but I have to express my opinion on this matter Mairy, don't you remember.........you know,,,,,,,,"dealing with the devil"??? remember now??? what she says is true, in fact I was just musing over how long Madame, about 1990? maybe even 89? ah who cares at this point, anyway you did make a little boo-boo EVERY SINGLE WORD TODAY IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE (except for Alan going to SRS, Dave didn't realize I would NEVER forget him......he's friends with Huw, and me with him, and on and on and on and on, etc) From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 16 13:40:17 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:40:17 -0400 Subject: (strayed and frayed OFF) Ali Goes To The S R S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: srs? From bloody.peasant at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 16 15:25:49 2007 From: bloody.peasant at GMAIL.COM (Roy G. Ovrebo) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:25:49 +0200 Subject: HW: Space Ritual + DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: pete howe wrote: > A mate of mine(male) thought it meant "lots of love"..so when i kept > putting lol in emails or texts to him, he started getting a bit worried.. > lol :) "My dog died yesterday." "OMG. LOL." I've also heard of people who'd abbreviate "Waves To Friends" using the initial letters. LOL, WTF! -- Roy G. Ovrebo From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 16 22:38:27 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (Mike Coleman) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:38:27 -0400 Subject: Keith Kniveton and stage hat Message-ID: oh dear.....SO SORRY with another, but I cannot have things that could look wrong on someone else 1) While Keith was and I hope is, my friend, he didn't know what I was doing other than possible hints about (cough, eed buse)(cough)..... 2) what I meant by his friendship making sense is simply because I had SUCH a lot of STUFF!!!! 3) I DO NOT believe in nor condone bothering neighbors, and I didn't then (as stated, I like them, or how they looked anyway!! hehehe), but I lived in a pretty nice sized home and if my elderly mom could sleep fine the "nabes" had to get "Colemanized" for disturbing my spiritual studies and early morning musical "examinations" 4) when I referred to Keith's maybe requiring something more painful, I hope it came across as "If boots are not good enough I may have to look into more sacred items, etc" (DO NOT KNOW if he wants unofficial stuff, I just imagine he may have any official items he ever wanted, etc) 5) he deserves it, HELL of a GREAT example of , whatever he's being (human may be insulting so I omit) ps-I will always be "off the chain" but I'm gonna chill mike coleman From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jun 17 10:36:41 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:36:41 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock, Alchemical Radio, and Drool Trough Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 17, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #178), The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #19), and Drool Trough Radio (show #63). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html I'm close to being able to produce true podcasts, for those of you who are interested in the subscription capabilities of true podcasting. I hope to have that up and running in the next couple weeks. Stay tuned..... Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #178) The Space Pirates - "Attack of the Space Pirates" (from Avast Beyond) Quarkspace - "Shifting Dervish" (from Spacefolds 8) ST 37 - "Thirst" (from And Then What) The Great Imperial Yo-Yo - "Physche" (from Blink) Starfield - "Energise" (from Return to Earth) The Ghost Lilacs - "See Saw" (from The Ghost Lilacs) Used Alien Mind - "Phase One Complete" (from The Placement Aside) Unimother 27 - "Warm Embrace" (from Escape From The Ephemeral Mind) Epstein Superflu - "Solara" (from demo 2007) Turkey Makes Me Sleepy - "Turkish Coffee" (from The Big Part of the Wishbone) Thunderdogs - "L$D Conspiracy" (from Thundermental) Second Sight - "Time To Make A Resolution" (from Second Sight) Bruce Cameron - "Mind Gardens" (from Midnight Daydream) Bruce Cameron - "Raining the Blues" (from Midnight Daydream) The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #19) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Space Rock, Progressive Rock and much much more. (Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill) Gong - Bambolay / Ya Sunne Romislokus - Dreg Dave Corwin - Not Your Place The Dogstar Poets - Magic Mile Life In A Blender - Dolly Down The Hole Neosoreskin - Bird's Eye View Hilda - Sparklers Lily Holbrook - King's Castle Nothing 2 Declare - Amber Phil Naro - Under The Night Sun Tim Mungenast - Birth Of Monsters Shmantra - Floating Hilda - Energectible Bit Flower Junk Bunny - Some Natural History Tim Mungenast - Lithium Statement Nick Bensen - Never Coming Down John Bartles & Arpad - Code Of The Forest People Drool Trough Radio (show #63) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. Julie Vik - "All New" (from Twist) Bodycocktail - "Necessary Pain" (from Cassette Culture Compilaton Two) C. Goff III & Reverend Bakerbop - "Collars for Dollars" (from Cassette Culture Compilaton Two) Brother Brick - "Chokito Bar" (from Stranded in the Nineties) Arthur Loves Plastic - "I'll Be There" (from Beneath the Watchful Eyes) Marlon Cherry - "Kuku Afuera De Djoniba" (from Ancient Sound, Modern Dance) Squeegeed Clean - "It's After the End of the State of Origin, don't you know that yet?" (from Synkronized Fukking Up) Eric Wallack - "Lion, Be Not Afraid Cried The Tick-Tock Man" (from The 365 Project) Eric Wallack - "Words, Like Origami Moths, Flutter Then Fall Into The Unknown" (from The 365 Project) Drifting in Silence - "Texture" (from fallto) Duo Dynamic - "Time to Man" (From Unrest For Peace) Atomic Buddha - "You're Not In Reach" (from Cosmic Band) 23 Current - "Noise in the Circuit" (from Curve of the Universe) Chris Phinney & Don Campau - "Body and Diffusion" (from Scientific Standards) Psychedelic Disco Angels - "Rowbong" (from Credito O No Credito) Fragile Dragon - "Golden Ring" (from Light Bend and Rhythm) Dead Against The Rest - "Angry Machine" (from Electric Funfair) Anika - "Xnt'qd Dkdbsqhb"" (from A:03-04) The Brother Kite - "Bringing It Back Home" (from Waiting for the Time to be Right) The Energy Flow - "I Am Strange" (from Existence Thru Technology) http://Aural-Innovations.com From steve.bishop at DB.COM Mon Jun 18 03:29:41 2007 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:29:41 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: <20070615090044.GC12234@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: OK, Alan went 'fishing' instead of playing at the Hawkfest - worrying news ? Mr Dibs deputised very ably and I thought the gig went very well but what of the future now ..............? --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Mon Jun 18 04:24:57 2007 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 04:24:57 EDT Subject: Alan Davey Message-ID: Sorry, but Dibsy was bloody awful...........that dreadful monotone voice that completely fell apart for Assassins. Poor gig. The only time I haven't stayed for an encore. The fact Alan wasn't there had a huge impact. Can't fault Dibsy for trying, but I'm afraid he's way, way off. Might make a difference if he doesn't try to sing though. Don't wish to be so negative but that really was a band struggling (IMHO of course) Angry backlash to the usual addresss please...................... Martin From steve.bishop at DB.COM Mon Jun 18 04:44:43 2007 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:44:43 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Whilst maybe not being quite so negative, when I said deputised ably I meant he was good in a 'holding' job so that at least the gig would go ahead .......... only man I know who could walk straight into Alan's role is Lemmy and sadly he wasn't around ! He was meant to be there on Fri but didn't appear due to illness although he was allegedly doing his own gig somewhere on Satday eve ? Thought HW line-up played quite tightly although it was never going to be the same without Alan .......... and I think the band sensed that too. Hope it's just a temporary hiatus and Alan is soon back in the fold but if not ...................? Martin Hutchby To Sent by: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET BOC/Hawkwind cc Discussion List Re: Alan Davey 18/06/2007 09:24 Please respond to BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Sorry, but Dibsy was bloody awful...........that dreadful monotone voice that completely fell apart for Assassins. Poor gig. The only time I haven't stayed for an encore. The fact Alan wasn't there had a huge impact. Can't fault Dibsy for trying, but I'm afraid he's way, way off. Might make a difference if he doesn't try to sing though. Don't wish to be so negative but that really was a band struggling (IMHO of course) Angry backlash to the usual addresss please...................... Martin --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jun 18 04:49:10 2007 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:49:10 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 18/06/2007 09:24, Martin Hutchby wrote: > Sorry, but Dibsy was bloody awful...........that dreadful monotone voice > that completely fell apart for Assassins. Poor gig. The only time I haven't > stayed for an encore. The fact Alan wasn't there had a huge impact. Can't fault > Dibsy for trying, but I'm afraid he's way, way off. Might make a difference if > he doesn't try to sing though. > Don't wish to be so negative but that really was a band struggling (IMHO of > course) > Angry backlash to the usual addresss please...................... No angry backlash from me -- I wasn't there, but I can easily imagine the band struggling pretty terribly without Alan. They didn't usually do that well without him when he was on hiatus in the '90s, and that was with plenty of warning .... I wonder what's up. A decade further, is Alan off for another "time-out" again? It'd be a shame, 'cause I thought they were playing really well in the last year or so, and Alan is pretty fundamental to the 'cause IMO. When the Brock/Davey/Chadwick core have it together, they cook as hot as any line-up and better than many. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jun 18 04:55:14 2007 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:55:14 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lemmy played at the Royal Festival Hall on Saturday and showed no signs whatever of "pneumonia"!. Steve Bishop wrote: Whilst maybe not being quite so negative, when I said deputised ably I meant he was good in a 'holding' job so that at least the gig would go ahead .......... only man I know who could walk straight into Alan's role is Lemmy and sadly he wasn't around ! He was meant to be there on Fri but didn't appear due to illness although he was allegedly doing his own gig somewhere on Satday eve ? Thought HW line-up played quite tightly although it was never going to be the same without Alan .......... and I think the band sensed that too. Hope it's just a temporary hiatus and Alan is soon back in the fold but if not ...................? Martin Hutchby OL.COM> To Sent by: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET BOC/Hawkwind cc Discussion List PNETINC.NET> Re: Alan Davey 18/06/2007 09:24 Please respond to BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List PNETINC.NET> Sorry, but Dibsy was bloody awful...........that dreadful monotone voice that completely fell apart for Assassins. Poor gig. The only time I haven't stayed for an encore. The fact Alan wasn't there had a huge impact. Can't fault Dibsy for trying, but I'm afraid he's way, way off. Might make a difference if he doesn't try to sing though. Don't wish to be so negative but that really was a band struggling (IMHO of course) Angry backlash to the usual addresss please...................... Martin --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 18 05:11:00 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:11:00 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd really love it if Alan made it over to America, but that doesn't seem likely. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 18 05:13:25 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:13:25 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: <46764706.8040901@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Hi Carl, I agree with you, totally about Alan. The last couple of time Hawkwind made it over here his presence was missed, it just wasn't the same. I'm still very much looking forward to the show next weekend. Kaduflyer From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 18 05:17:26 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:17:26 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: <513580.2225.qm@web23207.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It seems whenever Lemmy has been asked to play with Hawkwind, (at least when we had the Strange Daze festivals), he's always claimed to be ill. It's a shame, why doesn't he just say he's not into it? It would just be nice to hear him live on bass with Hawkwind since I never caught the Space Ritual lineup. Kaduflyer. From steve.bishop at DB.COM Mon Jun 18 05:23:07 2007 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:23:07 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: seeing him live at the Hawkestra on stage WITH Alan was bloody awesome - even with all the so-called 'defects' of the event, I wouldn't have missed it for the world .............. just wish some kind of record (audio or visual) of the event would see the light of day, irrespective of any technical shortcomings ......... vzenv14m To Sent by: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET BOC/Hawkwind cc Discussion List Re: Alan Davey 18/06/2007 10:17 Please respond to BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List It seems whenever Lemmy has been asked to play with Hawkwind, (at least when we had the Strange Daze festivals), he's always claimed to be ill. It's a shame, why doesn't he just say he's not into it? It would just be nice to hear him live on bass with Hawkwind since I never caught the Space Ritual lineup. Kaduflyer. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jun 18 06:08:58 2007 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:58 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 18/06/2007 10:23, Steve Bishop wrote: > seeing him live at the Hawkestra on stage WITH Alan was bloody awesome - even > with all the so-called 'defects' of the event, I wouldn't have missed it for > the world .............. At the risk of saying "me too", well, me too! :) The Hawkestra was a tremendous "fanboy high" for me, and from an audience perspective it was just an awesomely good time. I can easily understand why it didn't go down that way on stage or backstage, though! ;) Still, I always wonder whether hearing it/seeing it again in the cold clear light of day would tarnish the rather rose-coloured memories I have of the affair! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Mon Jun 18 07:35:36 2007 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (Space Rock Spectacular 2007) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:35:36 +0100 Subject: Breaking SRS news Message-ID: The Space Rock spectacular in October will be Underground zeros LAST EVER gig. Tickets now available to buy online. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 09:09:13 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:09:13 -0500 Subject: Trevor Thoms gets expensive suit and gets to sue Message-ID: *lucky for Judge "48", he hired the right man* *I've just discovered that JT's ICU has been completely robbed by Motorhead....* *Lemmy, of course, did a fantastically clever job with the theft, but his own ego brought him down (happens to the best of 'em) when he just had to make Snake Bite Love track number 3 * *Fortunately my father's old best friend was a high powered business lawyer and I have been referred to the right man to bring the case to fruition* *Once again, fortunately, this being Dallas, I'll be able to make the twisted drug references admissable.....* *gotta go, I am busy negotiating the "Hawkwind Fart" single, the most collectible single ever to be released by the band, and believe me, NO ONE will find every version in one lifetime.....* *mike c* From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Mon Jun 18 09:18:35 2007 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (Space Rock Spectacular 2007) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:18:35 +0100 Subject: Trevor Thoms gets expensive suit and gets to sue Message-ID: I'll phone Trev and ask him about that shall I? he may have some idea what you're talking about!! mike coleman insect.brain at GMAIL.COM wrote: *lucky for Judge "48", he hired the right man* *I've just discovered that JT's ICU has been completely robbed by Motorhead....* *Lemmy, of course, did a fantastically clever job with the theft, but his own ego brought him down (happens to the best of 'em) when he just had to make Snake Bite Love track number 3 * *Fortunately my father's old best friend was a high powered business lawyer and I have been referred to the right man to bring the case to fruition* *Once again, fortunately, this being Dallas, I'll be able to make the twisted drug references admissable.....* *gotta go, I am busy negotiating the "Hawkwind Fart" single, the most collectible single ever to be released by the band, and believe me, NO ONE will find every version in one lifetime.....* *mike c* From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Mon Jun 18 09:44:15 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:44:15 -0400 Subject: Trevor Thoms gets expensive suit and gets to sue In-Reply-To: <000e01c7b1ab$2d22ae40$0200a8c0@tony> Message-ID: You haven't slept either, ha? I have a friend dropping by till 11 o'clock tonight, that's when she scheduled The Ride to pick her up, I wish she hadn't scheduled it for so late, I have to go to the Y tomorrow. I'll give you a call when she leaves. I could sure use some extra valium.If you're still awake feel free to call. Mary From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 09:47:43 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:47:43 -0500 Subject: Trevor Thoms gets expensive suit and gets to sue In-Reply-To: <000e01c7b1ab$2d22ae40$0200a8c0@tony> Message-ID: yeah couldn't resist guess I should have put "off" in the subject line apologies the offense and in case you think i do those things I don't, but there is truth in my words and of course none in the lawsuit.. i'll phone him after you m On 6/18/07, Space Rock Spectacular 2007 wrote: > > I'll phone Trev and ask him about that shall I? he may have some idea what > you're talking about!! > > mike coleman insect.brain at GMAIL.COM wrote: > > *lucky for Judge "48", he hired the right man* > *I've just discovered that JT's ICU has been completely robbed by > Motorhead....* > *Lemmy, of course, did a fantastically clever job with the theft, but his > own ego brought him down (happens to the best of 'em) when he just had to > make Snake Bite Love track number 3 * > *Fortunately my father's old best friend was a high powered business > lawyer > and I have been referred to the right man to bring the case to fruition* > *Once again, fortunately, this being Dallas, I'll be able to make the > twisted drug references admissable.....* > *gotta go, I am busy negotiating the "Hawkwind Fart" single, the most > collectible single ever to be released by the band, and believe me, NO ONE > will find every version in one lifetime.....* > *mike c* > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 10:07:12 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:07:12 -0500 Subject: Re (OFF topic): Trevor Thoms gets expensive suit and gets to sue Message-ID: make that 0 truth just insanity someone could rely on I'll play somehwere else, I'm not up-to-date enough and neither is my refigerator peace On 6/18/07, mike coleman wrote: > > yeah couldn't resist > guess I should have put "off" in the subject line > apologies the offense and in case you think i do those things > I don't, but there is truth in my words and of course none in the > lawsuit.. > i'll phone him after you > m > > > On 6/18/07, Space Rock Spectacular 2007 > wrote: > > > > I'll phone Trev and ask him about that shall I? he may have some idea > > what you're talking about!! > > > > mike coleman insect.brain at GMAIL.COM wrote: > > > > *lucky for Judge "48", he hired the right man* > > *I've just discovered that JT's ICU has been completely robbed by > > Motorhead....* > > *Lemmy, of course, did a fantastically clever job with the theft, but > > his > > own ego brought him down (happens to the best of 'em) when he just had > > to > > make Snake Bite Love track number 3 * > > *Fortunately my father's old best friend was a high powered business > > lawyer > > and I have been referred to the right man to bring the case to fruition* > > *Once again, fortunately, this being Dallas, I'll be able to make the > > twisted drug references admissable.....* > > *gotta go, I am busy negotiating the "Hawkwind Fart" single, the most > > collectible single ever to be released by the band, and believe me, NO > > ONE > > will find every version in one lifetime.....* > > *mike c* > > > > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Jun 18 13:08:36 2007 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason M. Scruton) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:08:36 -0400 Subject: BOC: personnel movement. Message-ID: June 16, 2007 Starting today, June 16th, 2007, Rudy Sarzo joins BOC as bassist for the balance of 2007. Former bassist with Quiet Riot, Ozzy, Whitesnake and long time friend of the band, Rudy will play until Ronnie Dio returns from touring with Heaven and Hell. (Rudy is the current bassist in Dio). Rudy and Eric have been friends since meeting up at "Hear 'N Aid" in 1985. Eric adds that "Buck and I are really happy to have Rudy playing bass with us. He's a great fit and a great guy." Check out Rudy's site: www.rudysarzo.com Richie Castellano will continue handling the left side of the stage on keyboards, guitar and vocals. (Seems like a temporary measure, but reinforcing the fact that the mystery of A.Lanier's absence remains. - J.) From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 18 15:58:54 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:58:54 -0500 Subject: Hawklords Current Compact Disc Status Message-ID: something I've been wondering for a while... there was a time when I (personally) would have rated the Hawkords CD original issue on Virgin as taking the prize for being the rarest and most valuable of the standard/regular CD releases.....(and god who knew, I could have bought a truckload)... I am curious if the original is still an item to go under lock and key or if that has now changed??? and then for some possible useless, however on-topic blog: there are 2 differing "inkings" of the original Chronicle Of The Black sword.(CD).....what I would consider to be the first, has a "murky" shade of blue to the booklet... and what I would consider to be the rarer second one has a more (to me) appealing sky-blue inking.....this second one is the one I kept, but I kinda wish I would have kept both!!!!! also, when I was at the record convention in Austin, where I met Roky, etc, I did make a mistake....there was a resissue of the VINYL of Astounding Sounds that had the most electric beautiful ink on the marijuana leaves I've ever seen, but I left it .......later I realized about the different pressing runs and such..... .................. so the band is doing "Only The Dead Dreams"...Eh??...that and "Age Of The Micro Man" are my 2 personal faves from that beauty..... and further, the band having Dibbs minus Alan doesn't surprise me in the least.......it's what Hawkwind does and has done so many times before one final thing...if anyone has the Flicknife cassette of "Out And Intake", could you be kind enough to say so, and maybe even play it at your convenience and tell me if there is anything sneaky in the music??? the artwork on that one is changed, and I never got around to playing it I miss that item coleman From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Mon Jun 18 16:11:56 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:11:56 -0700 Subject: BOC: personnel movement. In-Reply-To: <20070618130836.961b8ian4gc4sssk@webmail.acmenet.net> Message-ID: I hope Mr. Lanier's okay. Last time I saw BOC (1998?) I was impressed with his versatility. Sarzo is a good bass player. See they'll be playing either Missouri or Kansas state fair with Alice Cooper. Gary "Jason M. Scruton" wrote: June 16, 2007 Starting today, June 16th, 2007, Rudy Sarzo joins BOC as bassist for the balance of 2007. Former bassist with Quiet Riot, Ozzy, Whitesnake and long time friend of the band, Rudy will play until Ronnie Dio returns from touring with Heaven and Hell. (Rudy is the current bassist in Dio). Rudy and Eric have been friends since meeting up at "Hear 'N Aid" in 1985. Eric adds that "Buck and I are really happy to have Rudy playing bass with us. He's a great fit and a great guy." Check out Rudy's site: www.rudysarzo.com Richie Castellano will continue handling the left side of the stage on keyboards, guitar and vocals. (Seems like a temporary measure, but reinforcing the fact that the mystery of A.Lanier's absence remains. - J.) --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Tue Jun 19 00:41:34 2007 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:41:34 -0600 Subject: BOC: Re: personnel movement. Message-ID: >>> Starting today, June 16th, 2007, Rudy Sarzo joins BOC as bassist for the >>> balance of 2007. I did not think much of Rudy when he was with Ozzy, but I have to say he does a good job with Dio. He can play and seems to be quite the professional. BOC will be here in Utah in a few weeks and I'll give a report then. I hope Allen is doing OK. Until then, Baby, that's the breaks. Brad From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 12:02:39 2007 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:02:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate Message-ID: Rumours that "Brainstorm" was to be renamed "Rainstorm" proved unfounded as the weather slowly cleared over the weekend. First the most important bit - congratulations to Dave and Kris! And very many thanks to them and their family for staging a memorable event which I thoroughly enjoyed. Also to all Hawkwind related players, crew, technicians, bands and everyone else who kept things running despite some truly aw(e)ful weather on Thursday and Friday, which thankfully I missed. Stories of tents being lifted off the ground by gusts of wind and rivers of rain make me relieved I only turned up on Saturday lunchtime to find a sea of mud around the main tent, very wet fields and several deep puddles to negotiate. Next important bit is the set list compiled on Saturday. Unfortunately my pen didn't write too well on damp paper and there are bits where I stopped writing / forgot / got confused so if anyone can add or amend I'd be grateful! : A longish sound check on stage (understandable considering the weather) Warriors on the Edge of Time Assault & Battery Golden Void Where Are They Now (Richard did vocals on this?) Lighthouse (Dave vocals?) with (I think) a long guitar filler Right Stuff (in two halves split - again, I think I remember here - by a rather nice instrumental piece) The Awakening (poem) Orgone Accumulator Paradox (superb - I loved this) Robot Steppenwolf Flying Doctor Utopia (I really enjoy this one) Infinity (ditto - though I know some people who don't) Images Only the Dead Dreams of a Cold War Kid (suddenly relevant again in today's news - but needs some more work) Sonic Attack ?Assassins of Allah? Shouldn't Do That I'm told that we missed out on a planned Spirit of the Age encore because the midnight hour arrived when (by decree) walls of live sound turn into the thud of a sound system and hundreds of people gathered together in a huge blue marquee tent disperse into a myriad multicoloured nylon domes leaving only memories of the music and a stunning light show with images and colours flowing all across the tent. Comments: yes - I missed Alan - I missed especially the apparently effortlessly easy linking between riffs from one guitar player to another born out of years of practice between musicians who know each other's music style and can create a seamless drift through the set list when everyone is performing well. But this is something that will return. Dibs played a splendid set (I understand he was rather nervous before the show!) and there were moments of great pleasure in the above set. Perhaps a larger problem is who will share the vocals - it will be hard work if Dave has to keep carrying the majority of the songs. The wedding was a wonderful occasion and I feel honoured to have been able to see it. A relaxed laughter-filled ceremony in a large high raftered medieval threshing barn gorgeously lit at one end by orange light. Silver grey and royal blue were the wedding colours. Beautiful. Afterwards, in a courtyard, family and friends in formal wedding clothes mingled and shared a cake along with fans wearing a variety of robot and alien forms, with silver cloaks, green suits, medieval dresses and false tuxedo t-shirts followed by a more formal reception and cake cutting ceremony in a marquee tent nearby. It was, dare I say it, almost magical. Other memories - sitting in Mike and Lucy's net-curtained gazebo in the campsite listening to the music drifting up from the main tent and chatting to other Hawkfriends. Lovely to see Arin and Rich and Steve and Rob and Keith and Julie and - everyone! TOSH later that evening was an excellent way to end the day (and though I could have wished that the hour and a half spent setting up the stage was done rather earlier than while we were all standing there waiting for Huw's acoustic set to start this is perhaps a bit unfair given the fact that there had just been a wedding party beforehand!). A nicely blanga set of mostly older tracks and everyone got a chance to do something - from reading Ten Seconds of Forever to playing guitar frontstage. Good fun. Sadly though I seem to have missed the Tim Blake tape later in the barn! Ah well. A real shame the rain made everything so muddy but the site facilities were excellent - especially the shop which never seemed to close. Very good service. Congratulations to all and thank you! jill ============================================== Jill Strobridge ============================================== From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Tue Jun 19 12:47:37 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:47:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <041201c7b28b$438f94f0$6701a8c0@jillspc> Message-ID: Quoting Jill Strobridge : > A longish sound check on stage (understandable considering the weather) > Warriors on the Edge of Time > Assault & Battery > Golden Void > Where Are They Now (Richard did vocals on this?) > Lighthouse (Dave vocals?) with (I think) a long guitar filler > Right Stuff (in two halves split - again, I think I remember here - by a > rather nice instrumental piece) > The Awakening (poem) > Orgone Accumulator > Paradox (superb - I loved this) > > Robot > Steppenwolf > Flying Doctor > Utopia (I really enjoy this one) > Infinity (ditto - though I know some people who don't) > Images > Only the Dead Dreams of a Cold War Kid (suddenly relevant again in today's > news - but needs some more work) > Sonic Attack > ?Assassins of Allah? > Shouldn't Do That Much as I know I'll miss Alan, if they do a similar setlist to the above this weekend at NEARFest, I will be one happy Hawkster (especially if they add in Spirit of the Age)! -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Jun 19 12:54:51 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:54:51 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <20070619124737.wgnq3ko0c48480c0@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: So what's going on with Alan? What's the official word? Are you reading Ian Abrahams? Gary David Kuznick wrote: Quoting Jill Strobridge : > A longish sound check on stage (understandable considering the weather) > Warriors on the Edge of Time > Assault & Battery > Golden Void > Where Are They Now (Richard did vocals on this?) > Lighthouse (Dave vocals?) with (I think) a long guitar filler > Right Stuff (in two halves split - again, I think I remember here - by a > rather nice instrumental piece) > The Awakening (poem) > Orgone Accumulator > Paradox (superb - I loved this) > > Robot > Steppenwolf > Flying Doctor > Utopia (I really enjoy this one) > Infinity (ditto - though I know some people who don't) > Images > Only the Dead Dreams of a Cold War Kid (suddenly relevant again in today's > news - but needs some more work) > Sonic Attack > ?Assassins of Allah? > Shouldn't Do That Much as I know I'll miss Alan, if they do a similar setlist to the above this weekend at NEARFest, I will be one happy Hawkster (especially if they add in Spirit of the Age)! -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Tue Jun 19 12:59:18 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:59:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <392174.15229.qm@web36913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Quoting gary shindler : > So what's going on with Alan? What's the official word? Are you reading Ian > Abrahams? The organizers of NEARFest have said he is not in the band. That's all I know. From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Jun 19 13:12:25 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:12:25 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <20070619125918.ksoej3issg4gk4wc@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: Next to Brock he's the longest standing veteran. Not good... David Kuznick wrote: Quoting gary shindler : > So what's going on with Alan? What's the official word? Are you reading Ian > Abrahams? The organizers of NEARFest have said he is not in the band. That's all I know. --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Jun 19 13:19:49 2007 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:19:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <041201c7b28b$438f94f0$6701a8c0@jillspc> Message-ID: Jill, Many thanks for your review - sadly I couldn't make the event this year :( Mick --- Jill Strobridge wrote: > Rumours that "Brainstorm" was to be renamed > "Rainstorm" proved unfounded as the weather slowly > cleared over the weekend. > > First the most important bit - congratulations to > Dave and Kris! And very many thanks to them and > their family for staging a memorable event which I > thoroughly enjoyed. Also to all Hawkwind related > players, crew, technicians, bands and everyone else > who kept things running despite some truly aw(e)ful > weather on Thursday and Friday, which thankfully I > missed. Stories of tents being lifted off the > ground by gusts of wind and rivers of rain make me > relieved I only turned up on Saturday lunchtime to > find a sea of mud around the main tent, very wet > fields and several deep puddles to negotiate. > > Next important bit is the set list compiled on > Saturday. Unfortunately my pen didn't write too > well on damp paper and there are bits where I > stopped writing / forgot / got confused so if anyone > can add or amend I'd be grateful! : > > A longish sound check on stage (understandable > considering the weather) > Warriors on the Edge of Time > Assault & Battery > Golden Void > Where Are They Now (Richard did vocals on this?) > Lighthouse (Dave vocals?) with (I think) a long > guitar filler > Right Stuff (in two halves split - again, I think I > remember here - by a rather nice instrumental piece) > The Awakening (poem) > Orgone Accumulator > Paradox (superb - I loved this) > > Robot > Steppenwolf > Flying Doctor hi Bill> > Utopia (I really enjoy this one) > Infinity (ditto - though I know some people who > don't) > Images remember it!> > Only the Dead Dreams of a Cold War Kid (suddenly > relevant again in today's news - but needs some more > work) > Sonic Attack > ?Assassins of Allah? > Shouldn't Do That > > I'm told that we missed out on a planned Spirit of > the Age encore because the midnight hour arrived > when (by decree) walls of live sound turn into the > thud of a sound system and hundreds of people > gathered together in a huge blue marquee tent > disperse into a myriad multicoloured nylon domes > leaving only memories of the music and a stunning > light show with images and colours flowing all > across the tent. > > Comments: yes - I missed Alan - I missed especially > the apparently effortlessly easy linking between > riffs from one guitar player to another born out of > years of practice between musicians who know each > other's music style and can create a seamless drift > through the set list when everyone is performing > well. But this is something that will return. > Dibs played a splendid set (I understand he was > rather nervous before the show!) and there were > moments of great pleasure in the above set. > Perhaps a larger problem is who will share the > vocals - it will be hard work if Dave has to keep > carrying the majority of the songs. > > The wedding was a wonderful occasion and I feel > honoured to have been able to see it. A relaxed > laughter-filled ceremony in a large high raftered > medieval threshing barn gorgeously lit at one end by > orange light. Silver grey and royal blue were the > wedding colours. Beautiful. Afterwards, in a > courtyard, family and friends in formal wedding > clothes mingled and shared a cake along with fans > wearing a variety of robot and alien forms, with > silver cloaks, green suits, medieval dresses and > false tuxedo t-shirts followed by a more formal > reception and cake cutting ceremony in a marquee > tent nearby. It was, dare I say it, almost > magical. > > Other memories - sitting in Mike and Lucy's > net-curtained gazebo in the campsite listening to > the music drifting up from the main tent and > chatting to other Hawkfriends. Lovely to see > Arin and Rich and Steve and Rob and Keith and Julie > and - everyone! > > TOSH later that evening was an excellent way to end > the day (and though I could have wished that the > hour and a half spent setting up the stage was done > rather earlier than while we were all standing there > waiting for Huw's acoustic set to start this is > perhaps a bit unfair given the fact that there had > just been a wedding party beforehand!). A nicely > blanga set of mostly older tracks and everyone got a > chance to do something - from reading Ten Seconds of > Forever to playing guitar frontstage. Good fun. > Sadly though I seem to have missed the Tim Blake > tape later in the barn! Ah well. > > A real shame the rain made everything so muddy but > the site facilities were excellent - especially the > shop which never seemed to close. Very good > service. Congratulations to all and thank you! > > jill > > ============================================== > Jill Strobridge > ============================================== > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html From steve.bishop at DB.COM Tue Jun 19 13:20:35 2007 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:20:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <215629.32416.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: and pretty difficult to replace talent-wise ............... and being a part of Hawkwind isn't something that many musicians can do, one has to be of a certain 'ilk', approach and mentality to slot naturally in to the mothership .... how many competent musicians have moved swiftly thru the doors previously ............. worrying for the future, let's hope it's a temporary absence gary shindler To Sent by: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET BOC/Hawkwind cc Discussion List Re: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate 19/06/2007 18:12 Please respond to BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Next to Brock he's the longest standing veteran. Not good... David Kuznick wrote: Quoting gary shindler : > So what's going on with Alan? What's the official word? Are you reading Ian > Abrahams? The organizers of NEARFest have said he is not in the band. That's all I know. --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 14:24:57 2007 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:24:57 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <392174.15229.qm@web36913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Are you reading Ian Abrahams? Nah, not me, I tend to find that once I've written something I've no wish to read it again! (Please, no wags out there saying 'me too' either!) Abie. gary shindler wrote: So what's going on with Alan? What's the official word? Are you reading Ian Abrahams? Gary --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Jun 19 15:10:06 2007 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:10:06 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <98553.40837.qm@web26910.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And in serious mode, can I just say this: Sorry folks, I'm not going to elaborate. I'm not Alan's PR agent, all I've done is give him a little bit of a hand with some publicity for his new CD by writing a PR sheet, setting up a Myspace, chasing a bit of press and doing a couple of interviews (look out for the latest issue of 'Bass Guitar Magazine' due out any day now). Doesn't make me Alan's voice on-line and it's not fair or right for me to try and present any views on which gigs he does or doesn't play at. The only thing I'm modestly involved in is 'Human on the Outside' - and I'm absolutely delighted to be involved with that. Ian Ian Abrahams wrote: Are you reading Ian Abrahams? Nah, not me, I tend to find that once I've written something I've no wish to read it again! (Please, no wags out there saying 'me too' either!) Abie. gary shindler wrote: So what's going on with Alan? What's the official word? Are you reading Ian Abrahams? Gary --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jun 20 09:40:02 2007 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:40:02 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <549655.55467.qm@web26910.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi All (Hoi z?me)... Just a few thoughts. I totally agree with nearly all of what Jill has already said. I took lots of photos and notes, and plan to do a full review (for AI as well as here) whenever I have the time and am not paying actual hard cash for online service (as I am now). It really was a wonderful event...I enjoyed myself much more than the last one four years ago, even though that one featured so many great bands, perhaps more than this time. So it was really a personal reason for me...I just wasn't in a very friendly sociable mood last time, whereas this time I was almost, um, 'chatty' I guess is the word. And seeing all the same faces again was really nice, and a few ones that I hadn't met before. I saw a few Frenchmen and Dutchman as well as the Germans, Aussies, and us Amis (incl. the expat Britons). I'm not much on weddings normally, being perpetually unattached I don't quite fathom the institution as well as the ceremony, but it was undoubtedly the coolest wedding I've ever been to. The costumes were really out there, some of them...just about everything and anything you could imagine. My personal favourite was the panda bear outfit. The event was an interesting mixture of traditional stuff (the bridesmaids' dresses, formality of the ceremony structure, and cake and reception protocols and such) but there was this weird overtone of 1,000 strange (or degenerate) uncles hanging about that gave it a unique flavor. It was great that Dave and Kris had the informal reception in the big courtyard open to everyone and anyone (i.e., us 'lot' of weirdos) before going off to have their own more private gathering. And some of us lucky ones even got in to the ceremony inside (a very tight place with only about 100 or so capacity), where they exchanged the actual 'Trauringe' (To be nice, I won't even put the 'n' in parantheses as I usually do, to make my little personal joke about what I think of marriage...only the Germans will understand what I mean here...) The TOSH set thereafter was the real party though, proverbial icing on the cake as it were. Sure, Dibbsy's voice was a little rough by the end, but he had done three entire sets over the weekend by then (incl. Spacehead and HW proper) so not without proper cause. It was really nice that Huwy stayed around to play el. guitar through nearly the entire TOSH set, and esp. since he played pretty decently throughout. Well, the acoustic set got on a bit, considering that we'd already been waiting an hour for something to happen, but once HoS kicked in, it was full on blanga for the next 70 minutes straight. And it was all essentially an encore for the previous night, so what a big bonus. Dave played only three songs or so in total, so he left Keef to carrz on a lot through whole stretches of the set, and he did quite well too, esp. on rhythm/wah guitar. Richard sat out drumming through all of Sunday, playing his own synth rig and putting in some backing vocals here and there. I think there were five synth rigs, in addition to four (or maybe five) el. guitar setups, so that's why it took so damn long for TOSH to get underway. So the rain was bad...and the mud was worse...and the fermenting broth of straw and spilled beer was too much to take. My shoes will never smell the same. On Saturday, I gave up the shoes (I didn't know about Wellies before...seems like a good idea, but they wouldn't fit into my Rucksack) and went with barefeet and flipflops and just let the mud squeeze between my toes. Actually felt pretty therapeutic at times, considering how sore my feet have been. By Sunday though, the place was not only liveable, but with the cool fresh air, it was very nice. It's never even remotely possible that it could be under 20C for a high in the month of June in a place like Ohio. Or even Minneapolis. On Monday, we all got our stuff packed up (even the Edinburgh lot with their metropolis of buildings) and got out on the road before, yet again, the storms arrived. Sitting in the airport, just three miles away, so I just walked out across the Donington Raceway fields and on down the A453 to the terminal, I laughed at the heavy rain and said to myself, 'Ha, this time you're too late!' I saw that it delayed Jill's flight a little bit, and mine three hours later was also delayed slightly, but my pack and tent were all nicely dried out still, so no worries, mate. So now here I am in Sachsen-Anhalt, in a town called Wittenberg. I came here because it was the first city at the top of the map I bought in Berlin yesterday, which includes everything from here south to the border with Czech Rep. And because I could see an indicator suggesting there was a campsite here, and there was, lucky for me. So I'm camping 20 m from the banks of the Elbe over on the other side of the river. Not much of a river here, no heavy boat traffic like on the Main or Neckar or esp. Rhein. But it's pleasant enough even without the boats to watch. Wittenberg is also known as the Lutherstadt, because 500 years ago some dude named Luther did something important in the history of the world. Or so they say. The way is went is something like this (the details are a bit sketchy perhaps)...he was challenged by, but then defeated, the world champion Samurai Warrior Kobiyashi by eating 50 giant sausage dogs in only 20 minutes. Washed down, of course, by many liters of real ale. And then afterwards the victorious Martin Luther produced in one single sitting his infamous 95 Feces, which somehow he nailed to the outhouse door for all the stunned onlookers to see for themselves. I think his record stands to this day, if I'm not mistaken. Ooooh, I'm surely going to hell when I die now. OK, enough of that frivolity. I'm on to Dresden and points south next (Prague and maybe Leipzig and Weimar), eventually making my way back west towards Kassel and then Burg Herzberg in mid July. My shoes should start to lose their nasty odour by then. One note: I actually found two stores in Nottingham that actually did sell the Solio solar-iPod/cellphone/camera-battery chargers. One of which was the airport electronics/travel gadget store, just as Paul had suggested, but also in the one right downtown in that Victoria Centre mall. It was 60 quid though, and I couldn't make myself shell out that much just now, as I had just spent some money on the plug-in charger model, and I'm hoping to find one later on (Prague?) for significantly less, considering the miserable exchange rate I suffered in Blighty. Anyway, they are available in some stores, so if you want to go green to your next festival, you might check them out...they're pretty small and compact at least. Don't know how well they work or how long it takes to charge stuff up. Especially when the skies are cloudy, but... That's all for now...not as short as I planned, but I've still got a few minutes on the clock. Ciao...Keith --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. From dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM Fri Jun 22 05:33:04 2007 From: dave at ASSASSINSOFSILENCE.COM (Space Rock Spectacular 2007) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:33:04 +0100 Subject: Moxters of Rock tomorrow in leicestershire Message-ID: Tomorrow (Satudary 23rd June), the Assassins of Silence are joining a host of mainly tribute bands at the dreadfully punningly named Moxters of Rock at The Vic in Coalville. They will be on stage at about 8:30pm, but there's plenty of other bands and events the rest of the time. Full details at gigs.assassinsofsilence.com Clear space, The Assassins From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Jun 23 10:11:08 2007 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:11:08 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Alchemcial Radio and Lo Finest Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com JUNE 24, 2007: NEW RADIO SHOWS I've just uploaded new shows from The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #20), and Lo Finest (show #9). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html The Best of Alchemical Radio (show #20) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends at Pet Hippy Productions and features an excellent assortment of Psychedelia, Space Rock, Progressive Rock and much much more. (Alchemical Radio Theme Tune by Dave Dill) Phil Naro - Spiritual Revolution Daevid Allen's University Of Errors - If You Die The Dipsomaniacs - Before Painting Your Murals Saturnia - Omnia Lily Holbrook - Another Winter Peter Johnston - Slowly The Days Roll By Tygre Moth & The Invisible Gypsy Band - Another Day A Little Paradise Adrian - Three Sides Anton Barbeau - The King Of Missouri Barra - Silverman John Bartles - The Night I Heard The Cattle Go Baa Brown Trout & The Lunkers - Every Day Above Ground Keith Christmas - Floating Cousin Silas - Doris Stokes On My TV Crown Posada - Stop Complaining Lo Finest (show #9) If Bwana/Al Margolis Special Lo Finest is a program dedicated to the appreciation of homemade recordings that were made and distributed on cassette tapes during the 1980s and 90s, hosted by veteran home recording artist Charles Rice Goff III. This edition of Lo Finest is dedicated to Al Margolis' project called If, Bwana. Al was one of the most active members of the cassette underground during the 1980s. He not only personally collaborated with cassette artists from all over the world, but he also distributed over 300 cassette albums of his own and others through his legendary Sound Of Pig cassette label. You can visit the Sound Of Pig web site at www.pogus.com "What Martin Et" from "They Call Me Bwana" "Invisible Cities" from "Beware The Sleeping Squid" "Brain Dead" from "Radio Slaves" Excerpt from "If Bwana In Four Parts" (produced by Zan Hoffman) Excerpt from "Horns & Hard Art" (with Brian Charles) Excerpt from No Other Radio show, KPFA Berkeley, September, 1988 (with John Gullak and Das) Excerpt from "Another Umbrella Corparation #4" (with David Gardener) Excerpt from "XTSW-Radio One" (with Don Campau) "Don't Forget" from "Bwana Dog Live In Toronto, 10/24/87" (with Hal McGee) http://Aural-Innovations.com From steve.bishop at DB.COM Mon Jun 25 03:21:55 2007 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:21:55 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey & thoughts In-Reply-To: <392174.15229.qm@web36913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Is there any official word on Alan please ? After reading some comments on his MySpace site it sounds ominously like he's gone .................. There seems to be a vacuum with regards to new material and, much as I love Hawkwinds back catalogue, I have a distinct unease with regards to the artistic future of the band. TMTYL was not bad as an album but there were no serious classic stand-out blanga HW tracks on there that will be future classics .................. hate to say it but it feels like they are in their twilight years now creatively. But I will still take every opportunity I can to see them, they'll never be surpassed as my all-time favourite band .................... but they are so much better WITH Alan. Bish --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 04:07:24 2007 From: ianabrahams1 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 01:07:24 -0700 Subject: Alan Davey & thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think if you check Alan's Myspace, then it shows that he left Hawkwind on 10th June. Ian Steve Bishop wrote: Is there any official word on Alan please ? After reading some comments on his MySpace site it sounds ominously like he's gone .................. There seems to be a vacuum with regards to new material and, much as I love Hawkwinds back catalogue, I have a distinct unease with regards to the artistic future of the band. TMTYL was not bad as an album but there were no serious classic stand-out blanga HW tracks on there that will be future classics .................. hate to say it but it feels like they are in their twilight years now creatively. But I will still take every opportunity I can to see them, they'll never be surpassed as my all-time favourite band .................... but they are so much better WITH Alan. Bish --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 25 10:19:19 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:19:19 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey and thoughts Message-ID: *I can't imagine it's not a WIDE OPEN DOOR for Alan.......* *with all the years in HW under his belt, you'll be seeing him in HW again, I'd bet greenbacks (someone else's, for now)* *I stopped "critiquing" HW years ago, since they are guaranteed to throw me off "true magnetic north"......I often find I like what they have done better after I arrive in the future and look backwards* *before I go further, please know that my abrasive comments are NOT judgemental on anyone, as I love everyone, even if I have to kill somebody, I love them too......* *I also imagine Alan isn't making a big stink about concentrating on his own stuff, because it "isn't"* *I will say for myself, however, if he is doing his own thing for a bit, a telephone call to Ron would please the shit out of me, so long as Ron and Alan can work that out, if Ron is still living, can still play, and would leave the Suckers to their...whatever it is they do since I've not been sent any........* *as for hawkwind.....Dave is going to see what is written, and Dave will surely kick your ass like you want.........* *let's hope he doesn't put names and faces together* *cheer up people* *and listen, as for myself, I am perfectly interested in any of you, and I wouldn't mind posts about Jenny, (somebody's wife), having a headache because the kids are screaming and misbehaving, causing a terrible headache when the ironing is being neglected and the favorite soap-opera is getting interrupted* *peace* *mike c* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 25 14:00:43 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:00:43 -0500 Subject: excecpt you missed one unreal thing Message-ID: *oh you thought that was for BOC list??* ** *hahahahahahahaaaa* *that's funny to me, sorry* *yeah I'm not that gutsy these days* *I had already sent it to Trev, it was for him, and I thought it was funny so I shared it with you* *Blanga....I want to KILL the Blangas* *peace* *munrealc* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Mon Jun 25 14:16:57 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:16:57 -0500 Subject: excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706251100p16ed8943r9264f73de4ed204b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: *I swear it's Mumfurd.....he's got some power I haven't come across and all I did was hit reply......so everbody knows I don't hear "blanga blanga blanga" in Orgone Accumulator.....big deal....* *sorry people, and I WASN'T kidding earlier about my interest in YOURSELVES* *peace* *mike* On 6/25/07, mike coleman wrote: > > *oh you thought that was for BOC list??* > ** > *hahahahahahahaaaa* > *that's funny to me, sorry* > *yeah I'm not that gutsy these days* > *I had already sent it to Trev, it was for him, and I thought it was funny > so I shared it with you* > *Blanga....I want to KILL the Blangas* > *peace* > *munrealc* > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jun 25 14:17:51 2007 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:17:51 +0000 Subject: excecpt you missed one unreal thing Message-ID: i thought it was fun, but i didn't think it was for real (you jest openly) - too much inside reference and everything is one big soup of non-reality, nobody would buy it in a metal zine anyway, but thanks for sharing it, it was enjoyable (if not a non-real kind of artificial sort of 'locked-in' syndrome kind of way) 'locked in' syndrome: nothing is real, its all one big felching noise and the nightmare is over, it will all be over one day when the filthy pigs bite the big one........ christian ----- Original Message ---- From: mike coleman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Monday, 25 June, 2007 8:00:43 PM Subject: excecpt you missed one unreal thing *oh you thought that was for BOC list??* ** *hahahahahahahaaaa* *that's funny to me, sorry* *yeah I'm not that gutsy these days* *I had already sent it to Trev, it was for him, and I thought it was funny so I shared it with you* *Blanga....I want to KILL the Blangas* *peace* *munrealc* ___________________________________________________________ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 06:17:43 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:17:43 -0500 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing Message-ID: *What??? Christian, how could you possibly think there might be anything to it other than pre-kindergarten level gaga??? well??? r u INSANE?? (nevermind, I already know)....I mean "Metallidood" as a reviewer???* *P_L_E_A_S_E.........where's my nearfest reviews??? geez is it still going???? I was hoping to hear from somebody who's trousers were still tripping......* On 6/25/07, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > i thought it was fun, but i didn't think it was for real (you jest openly) > - too much inside reference and everything is one big soup of non-reality, > nobody would buy it in a metal zine anyway, but thanks for sharing it, it > was enjoyable (if not a non-real kind of artificial sort of 'locked-in' > syndrome kind of way) > > 'locked in' syndrome: nothing is real, its all one big felching noise and > the nightmare is over, it will all be over one day when the filthy pigs bite > the big one........ > christian > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike coleman > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Sent: Monday, 25 June, 2007 8:00:43 PM > Subject: excecpt you missed one unreal thing > > *oh you thought that was for BOC list??* > ** > *hahahahahahahaaaa* > *that's funny to me, sorry* > *yeah I'm not that gutsy these days* > *I had already sent it to Trev, it was for him, and I thought it was funny > so I shared it with you* > *Blanga....I want to KILL the Blangas* > *peace* > *munrealc* > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your > email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. > http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk > From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 06:29:32 2007 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:29:32 +0000 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706260317v13d948ecuec996681c1910212@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Is everyone ok over there, or is George Bush putting something in the drinking water?lol ;) Yep , i've read ALL the conspiracy NWO theories..lol >From: mike coleman >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:17:43 -0500 > >*What??? Christian, how could you possibly think there might be anything >to it other than pre-kindergarten level gaga??? well??? r u INSANE?? >(nevermind, I already know)....I mean "Metallidood" as a reviewer???* >*P_L_E_A_S_E.........where's my nearfest reviews??? geez is it still >going???? I was hoping to hear from somebody who's trousers were still >tripping......* > > >On 6/25/07, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: >> >>i thought it was fun, but i didn't think it was for real (you jest openly) >>- too much inside reference and everything is one big soup of non-reality, >>nobody would buy it in a metal zine anyway, but thanks for sharing it, it >>was enjoyable (if not a non-real kind of artificial sort of 'locked-in' >>syndrome kind of way) >> >>'locked in' syndrome: nothing is real, its all one big felching noise and >>the nightmare is over, it will all be over one day when the filthy pigs >>bite >>the big one........ >>christian >> >> >>----- Original Message ---- >>From: mike coleman >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Sent: Monday, 25 June, 2007 8:00:43 PM >>Subject: excecpt you missed one unreal thing >> >>*oh you thought that was for BOC list??* >>** >>*hahahahahahahaaaa* >>*that's funny to me, sorry* >>*yeah I'm not that gutsy these days* >>*I had already sent it to Trev, it was for him, and I thought it was funny >>so I shared it with you* >>*Blanga....I want to KILL the Blangas* >>*peace* >>*munrealc* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>___________________________________________________________ >>What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your >>email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. >>http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk >> _________________________________________________________________ Win tickets to the sold out Live Earth concert! http://liveearth.uk.msn.com From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 06:40:32 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:40:32 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Kollektor Korner Message-ID: *Look what one of my secret agent's karma just brought him* *he is an actual card carrying Agent Of Chaos, if named, you'd know, but I can't do that* *anyway, look what you'll live out your entire life and NEVER own......hehe* ** *******A white sleeve, handwritten with the words Hawkwind, Roadhawks. Inside are two 12" LP's. One is an acetate (you can tell by the weight and rigidity this isn't ordinary vinyl), with a note written on the grey/white label "Side 1, 2nd cut with less top on track 3" Side 2 looks like a test tone. The second LP is a single sided vinyl, labelled "rejected 1st cut". * *Then also in the package, is a second white sleeve, labelled "UAK 29919 A-2 Reference of Re-cut". In this one is another 12" acetate, this time with both sides 1 and 2 of Roadhawks, but looking at the groove widths this is a different cut again to the official UA release. I checked my old vinyl copy: sure enough, UAK 29919 A-3 stamped into the run-out.******** ** *mike coleman* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 07:00:38 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:00:38 -0500 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ** << wrote: > <<< <<< <<< Hi there folks, I know this is not true HW, but it is a hippy up in the middle of a field and Spaceritual are playing, along with every other neocrusty-festy band from my youth that are still going, so forgive my intruding, but Is any one else going to Eastern Haze (http://www.easternhaze.com/)? Any one been before, got any advice about it considering I am going with my 3 and a half year old daughter? What are Here and Now like now-a-days? Who are this litmus/nukli/tribe of cro/omnia opera/spacehead/kava kava anyway? 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Registered Offices: Bucknalls Lane, Garston, Watford, Hertfordshire WD25 9XX From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 11:44:58 2007 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:44:58 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: <46764706.8040901@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Well in the US the band did fantastic. Most of the people I talked to at NF and Brooklyn didn't know who Dibsy was but thought his voice fitted very well for Hawkwind. So maybe he was just off for Hawkfest. Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the pics http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort the myspace http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ the photobucket http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ the flickr site Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On 18/06/2007 09:24, Martin Hutchby wrote: >> Sorry, but Dibsy was bloody awful...........that dreadful monotone >> voice that completely fell apart for Assassins. Poor gig. The only >> time I haven't stayed for an encore. The fact Alan wasn't there had >> a huge impact. Can't fault Dibsy for trying, but I'm afraid he's >> way, way off. Might make a difference if he doesn't try to sing though. >> Don't wish to be so negative but that really was a band struggling >> (IMHO of course) >> Angry backlash to the usual addresss please...................... > > No angry backlash from me -- I wasn't there, but I can easily imagine > the band struggling pretty terribly without Alan. They didn't usually > do that well without him when he was on hiatus in the '90s, and that > was with plenty of warning .... I wonder what's up. A decade > further, is Alan off for another "time-out" again? It'd be a shame, > 'cause I thought they were playing really well in the last year or so, > and Alan is pretty fundamental to the 'cause IMO. When the > Brock/Davey/Chadwick core have it together, they cook as hot as any > line-up and better than many. > > Cheers, > Carl > From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Tue Jun 26 12:03:50 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:03:50 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: <4681347A.9090604@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I thought he did a fine job at NEARFest. If only the sound problems could have been resolved... BTW, that was me who yelled to Dave that we couldn't hear his guitar :-). Quoting Mike Montfort : > Well in the US the band did fantastic. > > Most of the people I talked to at NF and Brooklyn didn't know who Dibsy > was but thought his voice fitted very well for Hawkwind. > > So maybe he was just off for Hawkfest. > > Mike > http://corwyn.blogspot.com > the blog > http://www.mikemontfort.com > the pics > http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort > the myspace > http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ > the photobucket > http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ > the flickr site > > > > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > On 18/06/2007 09:24, Martin Hutchby wrote: > >> Sorry, but Dibsy was bloody awful...........that dreadful monotone > >> voice that completely fell apart for Assassins. Poor gig. The only > >> time I haven't stayed for an encore. The fact Alan wasn't there had > >> a huge impact. Can't fault Dibsy for trying, but I'm afraid he's > >> way, way off. Might make a difference if he doesn't try to sing though. > >> Don't wish to be so negative but that really was a band struggling > >> (IMHO of course) > >> Angry backlash to the usual addresss please...................... > > > > No angry backlash from me -- I wasn't there, but I can easily imagine > > the band struggling pretty terribly without Alan. They didn't usually > > do that well without him when he was on hiatus in the '90s, and that > > was with plenty of warning .... I wonder what's up. A decade > > further, is Alan off for another "time-out" again? It'd be a shame, > > 'cause I thought they were playing really well in the last year or so, > > and Alan is pretty fundamental to the 'cause IMO. When the > > Brock/Davey/Chadwick core have it together, they cook as hot as any > > line-up and better than many. > > > > Cheers, > > Carl > > > -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Jun 26 12:33:09 2007 From: colinjallen at YAHOO.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:33:09 +0100 Subject: Nik: Eastern Haze In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Easterm Haze is great for Children; we played there last year (and are playing again this year). It is a very friendly, laid back festival with plenty for everyone of all ages. As to the bands that you mention, I really cannot comment. Colin Manager - Litmus http://www.myspace.com/litmusspacerock "Wright, Mike" wrote: Hi there folks, I know this is not true HW, but it is a hippy up in the middle of a field and Spaceritual are playing, along with every other neocrusty-festy band from my youth that are still going, so forgive my intruding, but Is any one else going to Eastern Haze (http://www.easternhaze.com/)? Any one been before, got any advice about it considering I am going with my 3 and a half year old daughter? What are Here and Now like now-a-days? Who are this litmus/nukli/tribe of cro/omnia opera/spacehead/kava kava anyway? Cheers Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. Building Research Establishment Ltd, Registered under number 3319324 in England and Wales. BRE Certification Limited, Registered under number 3548352 in England and Wales. Building Research Establishment and BRE Certification are subsidiaries of the BRE Trust. BRE Trust, Registered under number 3282856 in England and Wales, and registered as a charity (No 1092193). Registered Offices: Bucknalls Lane, Garston, Watford, Hertfordshire WD25 9XX From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 13:03:04 2007 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:03:04 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Brooklyn Message-ID: Hey All GREAT show on Monday, The band was just blistering hot and loud. They had a fantastic PA system in the small venue and the boys did a great job of mixing it up from the setlists on Saturday and Sunday. No new surprises from the Allentown show setlist, just some differing order of the songs. I think last two songs (the Encores) from Allentown were not played at Brooklyn, but Im very bad with setlists. The Encore in Brooklyn was a rousing Brainstorm. I also had the opportunity to get to the venue around 3pm when Keef and co were setting up, and was just coming back from lunch when the band showed up. I had a unique opportunity to chat with Dave Brock about all sorts of history of the band and his thoughts other things as well. The most chatting I did was with Kris however, such a wonderful person. I probably spent at lest a half hour with Dave one on one and much more time with Kris. I spied the box of Tshirts sitting in the middle of the floor after setup so I asked Kris if I could get that organized for them. This morphed into me selling Merchandise for the show. It was tons of fun meeting the US fans, many many many of whom seem to have no idea of our list lol. Some do post to the HW forum. Alas by the time things got rolling things in the Tshirt dept were down to any color you wanted as long as it was a White XL... But we did sell quite a few T's and Season's Greetings CD's. I stayed around after the show to sell a few more and then thank the band individually for a wonderful weekend. For me, without sounding like a total fanboy, it was a dream come true, to be able to help out the Mothership, have a real conversation with the man who is responsible for so much musical pleasure in my life and to meet Kris who is truly a star. So now I'm deaf today, and have to return to reality, which is not easy. I posted my pictures to this show at my PhotoBucket site under the subfolder Hawkwind Brooklyn http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/Hawkwind%20Brooklyn/ If that wraps use the link below in my sig file to navigate to the folder. Also don't forget there are HW pics in the NF Saturday folder as well. If anyone from the list that was at the show and I didn't meet sorry for that. It was quite crazy selling Merch. -- Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the pics http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort the myspace http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ the photobucket http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ the flickr site From heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 13:18:41 2007 From: heathcliff13 at GMAIL.COM (tim elliott) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:18:41 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Brooklyn In-Reply-To: <468146C8.2040709@gmail.com> Message-ID: Great photos Mike, and a new career too!! What more could you ask for - LOL tim 8>)... On 6/26/07, Mike Montfort wrote: > > Hey All > > GREAT show on Monday, The band was just blistering hot and loud. They > had a fantastic PA system in the small venue and the boys did a great > job of mixing it up from the setlists on Saturday and Sunday. No new > surprises from the Allentown show setlist, just some differing order of > the songs. I think last two songs (the Encores) from Allentown were not > played at Brooklyn, but Im very bad with setlists. The Encore in > Brooklyn was a rousing Brainstorm. > > I also had the opportunity to get to the venue around 3pm when Keef and > co were setting up, and was just coming back from lunch when the band > showed up. I had a unique opportunity to chat with Dave Brock about all > sorts of history of the band and his thoughts other things as well. The > most chatting I did was with Kris however, such a wonderful person. I > probably spent at lest a half hour with Dave one on one and much more > time with Kris. > > I spied the box of Tshirts sitting in the middle of the floor after > setup so I asked Kris if I could get that organized for them. This > morphed into me selling Merchandise for the show. It was tons of fun > meeting the US fans, many many many of whom seem to have no idea of our > list lol. Some do post to the HW forum. Alas by the time things got > rolling things in the Tshirt dept were down to any color you wanted as > long as it was a White XL... But we did sell quite a few T's and > Season's Greetings CD's. > > I stayed around after the show to sell a few more and then thank the > band individually for a wonderful weekend. For me, without sounding > like a total fanboy, it was a dream come true, to be able to help out > the Mothership, have a real conversation with the man who is responsible > for so much musical pleasure in my life and to meet Kris who is truly a > star. > > So now I'm deaf today, and have to return to reality, which is not easy. > > I posted my pictures to this show at my PhotoBucket site under the > subfolder Hawkwind Brooklyn > > > > http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/Hawkwind%20Brooklyn/ > > If that wraps use the link below in my sig file to navigate to the > folder. Also don't forget there are HW pics in the NF Saturday folder > as well. > > If anyone from the list that was at the show and I didn't meet sorry for > that. It was quite crazy selling Merch. > > -- > > > Mike > http://corwyn.blogspot.com > the blog > http://www.mikemontfort.com > the pics > http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort > the myspace > http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ > the photobucket > http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ > the flickr site > -- tim 8>)... http://heathcliff13.blogspot.com From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 16:15:05 2007 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:15:05 +0100 Subject: Fwd: FW: Hawkwind - Space Ritual Collector's Edition CD & DV In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Got the attached which you might find interesting. Steve Hawkwind Space Ritual Collector's Edition CD & DVD Pioneering space rock for stoners. Released in 1973 this live album is an excellent record of the classic Hawkwind line up; the band's one constant member since the 60's Dave Brock is on guitar, founding member Nik Turner is on saxophone & flute, the genius lyrics of the deeply troubled schizophrenic poet Bob Calvert, the personification of heavy metal, Lemmy on bass/vocals and the earth-moving rhythm section of Simon King. Hawkwind were renowned for their countercultural ideals and famously played for free outside the perimeter of the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival for 5 consecutive days. In fact the band gigged almost constantly in 1972 so it's perhaps unsurprising that the performance here is so tight. [image: Hawkwind - Space Ritual Collector's Edition] The show for the Space Ritual tour was conceived as a space rock opera, the band were heavily influenced by the space race and the sci fi and fantasy of author Micheal Moorcock who even collaborated with the band on numerous occasions. The CDs in this Collectors Edition feature the original album with some extended tracks (they were originally editted due to the time restrictions of vinyl) and 3 bonus tracks. Extensive sleeve notes are provided by Nik Turner. The DVD is more a DVD album than DVD video; it allows the listener to enjoy the album as it was originally recorded - as one long continous piece of live music - this is the first time it's been available this way. There is a brand new 5.1 mix as well as the standard stereo mix. A visualizer will play on screen while the music plays. Click here to check out a sample: [image: Windows Media]Windows Media [image: Windows Media]Quicktime The DVD also features 2 promo videos which are previously unreleased - Silver Machine & Urban Guerilla. These also get a digital release. [image: CD1 & CD2] - 1.Earth Calling - 2.Born To Go - listen - 3.Down Through The Night - 4.The Awakening - 5.Lord Of Light - 6.The Black Corridor - 7.Space Is Deep - listen - 8.Electronic No 1 - 9.Orgone Accumulator - listen - 10.Upside Down - 11.10 Seconds Of Forever - 12.Brainstorm - ( PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED COMPLETE VERSION) - 1.Seven By Seven - 2.Sonic Attack - listen - 3.Time We Left This World Today - 4.Master Of The Universe - listen - 5.Welcome To The Future - ( PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED COMPLETE VERSION) - 6.You Shouldn't Do That (PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED) - 7.Orgone Accumulator (BONUS TRACK) - 8.Time We Left This World Today (BONUS TRACK) - 9.You Shouldn't Do That (BONUS TRACK) [image: DVD] - 1.Earth Calling - 2.Born To Go - 3.Down Through The Night - 4.The Awakening - 5.Lord Of Light - 6.The Black Corridor - 7.Space Is Deep - 8.Electronic No 1 - 9.Orgone Accumulator - 10.Upside Down - 11.10 Seconds Of Forever - 12.Brainstorm - 13.Seven By Seven - 14.Sonic Attack - 15.Time We Left This World Today - 16.Master Of The Universe - 17.Welcome To The Future - ( PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED COMPLETE VERSION) - 18.You Shouldn't Do That (PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED) - 19.Silver Machine - Original promo film - 20.Urban Guerilla - Original promo film [image: itunes] [image: amazon] [image: play.com] [image: hmv] Buy on Itunes Buy on Amazon Buy on Play.com Buy on HMV Silver Machine & Urban Guerilla video downloads also released on June 25. PROMOTIONS The band were recently subject to an hour long TV documentary which has aired on BBC 4. The band's annual festival HAWKFEST takes place on 15th - 17th June in Castle Donington You have received this e-mail because you signed up to receive rock and / or Genesis news from EMI Music. Click here to unsubscribe here ------------------------------ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jun 26 19:25:23 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:25:23 +0100 Subject: Eastern Haze Message-ID: check this out from last year http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/easternhaze.html trev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wright, Mike" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: Nik: Eastern Haze Hi there folks, I know this is not true HW, but it is a hippy up in the middle of a field and Spaceritual are playing, along with every other neocrusty-festy band from my youth that are still going, so forgive my intruding, but Is any one else going to Eastern Haze (http://www.easternhaze.com/)? Any one been before, got any advice about it considering I am going with my 3 and a half year old daughter? What are Here and Now like now-a-days? Who are this litmus/nukli/tribe of cro/omnia opera/spacehead/kava kava anyway? Cheers Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. Building Research Establishment Ltd, Registered under number 3319324 in England and Wales. BRE Certification Limited, Registered under number 3548352 in England and Wales. Building Research Establishment and BRE Certification are subsidiaries of the BRE Trust. BRE Trust, Registered under number 3282856 in England and Wales, and registered as a charity (No 1092193). Registered Offices: Bucknalls Lane, Garston, Watford, Hertfordshire WD25 9XX From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jun 27 05:04:39 2007 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:04:39 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: <20070626120350.9picwc8kskskwwwk@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: On 26/06/2007 17:03, David Kuznick wrote: > BTW, that was me who yelled to Dave that we couldn't hear > his guitar :-). Good man! :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 09:13:33 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:13:33 +0100 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing Message-ID: i see, you have ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike coleman" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing > ** > << wrote: > >> <<<> <<<> <<< > *Hullo Pete, (yes I got that from Dave, it's "earthy"), and all you > educated > ones......first of all MAJOR apologies for this embarrassment to myself on > the board,,,,,,,,I only responded again because Christian (who has become > a > good friend in short order) embarrassed me,,,,,,in case one of the words > he > used didn't slip by you, blame my friend Mark, not Christian, since he got > it from us (wishing I'd NEVER seen it)........myself, I cannot STAND > water, > so whatever I've had has been at least diluted.......which reminds > me,,,there was an old movie about water supplies being tainted with LSD in > a > US town or something, does anyone know this movie??? I have always wanted > to > see it in a big way!!!!!????* > *below is the ridiculous mail I sent to Trev, and since you good people > got > exposed to the aftercrud, here it is, and I cringe and duck...PLEASE > forgive > me.....* > *the following review is by "Metallidood"* > ** > *Hi kiddies, I've just been sent a promo of "Revolution and Rebellion" a > sort of "best of" collection of "songs" (and I use this term loosely, it > is > certainly a huge stretch) by a very very obscure guitarist (named Trevorie > Tulane Thomas) who faintly glimmered in the public eye for about a > nanosecond, as a second and lesser known guitarist for a band who was > almost > completely invisible to the public eye, back in part of a year in the > 1980's, I think..... * > *The CD comes as a bit of a surprise, really, because looking at the > cover > artwork before I ever played one song, I was already thinking to myself > "now > this is going to have REAL BLANGA!!!"* > ** > *the tracks follow, with my reviews aside of them:* > ** > *1) Atlantic Waves- {Like, Blanga!!!}* > *2) Cars Eat With Autoface- {this Blanga goes to eleven!!}* > *3) Dolphins- {this is more Blanga than Blanga}* > *4) Bashin Up The Rich {very very dark Blanga}* > *5) Blue Rinse Haggard Robot {so silly I almost missed the Blanga}* > *6) Bildeborg-{hilarious spoof of secret shadow Blanga societies}* > *7) Skinheads In Leningrad-{it's coming up Blanga again, and this is a > very > punk rock track}* > *8) Rituals and Sodomy-{this one really hit me, naughty Blanga}* > *9) Dog Rot-{what can I say, this guy knows his Blanga}* > *10) Battle Of The Tress-{very very silly song about Trees fighting, > didn't > hear much Blanga on this one}* > *11) China-{great reminder that even in a holocaust, we can go out with > "real Blanga feel"}* > *12) Epitaph-{like, I'm so sure, gag me with a Blanga spoon}* > From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Wed Jun 27 09:52:25 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:52:25 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: <46822827.9020205@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Quoting Carl Edlund Anderson : > On 26/06/2007 17:03, David Kuznick wrote: > > BTW, that was me who yelled to Dave that we couldn't hear > > his guitar :-). > > Good man! :) :-) He responded something like "I'm the one that's usually playing too loud". From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 10:57:47 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:57:47 -0500 Subject: Mike Friend Of Obscure Island RU receiving??? Message-ID: Dear Lord Of The Eldrin BOC-List Higher Council Of The Robed Ones.........(don't know if the table's round sorry) I did indeed manage to infest and infiltrate the Deckard home ( I cannot WAIT until me and Nik go there and scare the living SHIT out of them, but that's another story) had a great day there since he and I both pretty much find human beings to be a problem, and the same goes for the work day of the common man (this does not apply to you educated ones who are able to control your monetary intake yourselves).....but then sweet love turned to sour in a FRY's electronic store when Sammie (the 57 year old retired Jazz drummer who thinks John Zorn is music but not Hawkwind) decided to pick on me for the umteenth time that I must have a drug and money management problem since I have nothing to show for it (referring to 5000 dollars I lived on for five years)...... well, that old Coleman Devil that scares pretty much everyone within at least a hundred mile radius reappeared in force, and I was going to tear him into shards right there in the store, and you all WOULD be proud of "resident mikey nutcase", as to my surprise, he was scared, and wanted no part..........I was nice enough to leave the store so I wouldn't embarrass them by quickly making friends with the police ( a talent of mine) and possibly not even getting thrown out............ the point of this vomitary public upheaval??? he was much much too concerned with how important his copying movies is/was, and refused to do any editing for you. so what I have now for you is one full CDR of "Unimagined Facets" (BBC 72, plus Kevin's weird-tape additions) and another full CDR comp, which contains the Glastonbury Silver Machine in it's finest form......... if this is perfectly good for you, shoot me your current Dome location please, and if not maybe Christian might consider doing some editing since I love him, and he knows it.........lemme know when I got home, I had an electricity disconnection recording on my phone, after everything had clearly been arranged, and I was screaming and tearing bits of furniture apart, and looking to start a body-count, which is actually pretty gutsy since this is Mexican territory, and they, just like me, will kill you....no joke......good thing they have accepted this "loco gringo"........(and me them, I've called their bluff with the help of a spiritual older brother you all would call Lemmy) and Jon, if that mail to you was a bit dark, sorry, I thought it was going on the list, probably better it didn't as I really don't feel like killing fake musicians just now...... and Trev, hang tough buddy, it'll get better..... Mike C, Assassin Assassin *ASSASSIN!!!!!!!!!!!!* From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:17:43 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:17:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:40:02 -0700 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > So the rain was bad...and the mud was worse...and the fermenting broth > of straw and spilled beer was too much to take. Rain?? Mud?? That was just a wee bit o' damp. At Glasters we had real rain and mud. The kind of rain and mud that goes on forever and drains your soul even as it tries to suck off a welly with every step you take, Mud that permeates every crevice of skin adn clothing and oozes like The Blob into your sleeping bag to keep you awake and fantasising of hot showers and soap. As for straw, we dreamt of having straw. On the whole of Glasters there were exactly three straw bales and traders were involved in armed shootouts to obtain these so that punters could buy from them without the use of advanced nautical equipment. Straw. If only I'd had some straw. Hell, if I could have found grass I'd have made my own straw. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:19:04 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:19:04 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey & thoughts In-Reply-To: Steve Bishop's message of Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:21:55 +0100 Message-ID: Steve Bishop writes: > There seems to be a vacuum with regards to new material and, much as I love > Hawkwinds back catalogue, I have a distinct unease with regards to the > artistic future of the band. TMTYL was not bad as an album but there were no > serious classic stand-out blanga HW tracks on there that will be future > classics Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Angela Android is the new Brainstorm... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:21:37 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:21:37 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey and thoughts In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > *I will say for myself, however, if he is doing his own thing for a bit, a > telephone call to Ron would please the shit out of me No. No. NO! If we're to have ex-bassists back, then it's Adrian Shaw to the Big Red Courtesy Phone... Sorry, but apart from a pretty good Calvert impression on Steppenwolf, Ron pretty much held things back... FoFP From steve.bishop at DB.COM Wed Jun 27 11:22:20 2007 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:22:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: <200706271517.l5RFHhIC004418@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Errrrr, hate to be picky but if you'd found grass you could've made hay !! (straw comes from corn .........) M Holmes To Sent by: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET BOC/Hawkwind cc Discussion List Re: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate 27/06/2007 16:17 Please respond to BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Keith Henderson writes: > So the rain was bad...and the mud was worse...and the fermenting broth > of straw and spilled beer was too much to take. Rain?? Mud?? That was just a wee bit o' damp. At Glasters we had real rain and mud. The kind of rain and mud that goes on forever and drains your soul even as it tries to suck off a welly with every step you take, Mud that permeates every crevice of skin adn clothing and oozes like The Blob into your sleeping bag to keep you awake and fantasising of hot showers and soap. As for straw, we dreamt of having straw. On the whole of Glasters there were exactly three straw bales and traders were involved in armed shootouts to obtain these so that punters could buy from them without the use of advanced nautical equipment. Straw. If only I'd had some straw. Hell, if I could have found grass I'd have made my own straw. FoFP --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:23:32 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:23:32 +0100 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:17:43 -0500 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > *What??? Christian, how could you possibly think there might be anything > to it other than pre-kindergarten level gaga??? well??? r u INSANE?? Ummm. Under the Drieux Convention, there can be no argument between Christian and Mike Coleman. The universe might explode... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:25:08 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:25:08 +0100 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: pete howe's message of Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:29:32 +0000 Message-ID: pete howe writes: > Is everyone ok over there, or is George Bush putting something in the > drinking water?lol Can YOU pass the Azeed Test? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:27:10 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:27:10 +0100 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:00:38 -0500 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > there was an old movie about water supplies being tainted with LSD in a > US town or something, does anyone know this movie??? I have always wanted to > see it in a big way!!!!!????* G.A.S.S. ??? FoFP From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 11:28:28 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:28:28 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey and thoughts In-Reply-To: <200706271521.l5RFLbNC005379@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 6/27/07, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > > *I will say for myself, however, if he is doing his own thing for a bit, > a > > telephone call to Ron would please the shit out of me > > $$$$$No. No. NO!$$$$$$$ > > Well, there you have it, I've been duck taped at the mouth...... I just thought Adrian was wandering the streets of San Fransico, or whichever California town to this day......how he's managed to get solo records out is beyond me From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:28:37 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:28:37 +0100 Subject: Nik: Eastern Haze In-Reply-To: Wright, Mike's message of Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:01:17 +0100 Message-ID: Wright, Mike writes: > Hi there folks, > > I know this is not true HW, but it is a hippy up in the middle of a > field and Spaceritual are playing, along with every other > neocrusty-festy band from my youth that are still going, so forgive my > intruding, but > > Is any one else going to Eastern Haze (http://www.easternhaze.com/)? I'm still thinking about it. It was good last year... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:30:44 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:30:44 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey In-Reply-To: Mike Montfort's message of Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:44:58 -0400 Message-ID: Mike Montfort writes: > Well in the US the band did fantastic. > > Most of the people I talked to at NF and Brooklyn didn't know who Dibsy > was but thought his voice fitted very well for Hawkwind. Comments from Brooklyn from guys I've dragged along to gigs in the past but who aren't exactly fans were: A) Dibs made a good fist of things. B) Jason's jazzy synth style doesn't suit Hawkwind. C) Lightshow very desultory for Hawkwind. So what happened with the lightshow? Wasn't Jim there? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:36:59 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:36:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: Steve Bishop's message of Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:22:20 +0100 Message-ID: Steve Bishop writes: > Errrrr, hate to be picky but if you'd found grass you could've made hay !! > (straw comes from corn .........) Fairy Nuff. Is hay no good for sorting out mud then? What i was thinking is that they should have got grit lorries full of sand and dropped it around the tracks at Glasters. It's have solidified the mud, and the sand would have improved overall soil drainiage for next time. Possibly sand is bad for cows, but I can't imagine quite how... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 27 11:38:24 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:38:24 +0100 Subject: Alan Davey and thoughts In-Reply-To: mike coleman's message of Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:28:28 -0500 Message-ID: mike coleman writes: > > $$$$$No. No. NO!$$$$$$$ > > Well, there you have it, I've been duck taped at the mouth...... That's because you're quackers. FoFP From Chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK Wed Jun 27 11:40:42 2007 From: Chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK (Chaosillumination) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:40:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate Message-ID: You were lucky Mike, having it so easy at Glasters, we dreamt of being able to see any actual mud beneath the 7ft of water that was on the main road interchange into Chesterfield on Monday...we've been living in a lake here, not the luxury of a tent. And eating freezing cold gravel too. http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/chesterfield?articleid=2981617 Another 6 inches higher on the 'stream' feeding that puddle and Hawkwind would no longer have a lightshow. I lost enough gear at the Hawkfest due to water without being flooded out...hopefully ALL the strobes will be working next time. Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate > Keith Henderson writes: > >> So the rain was bad...and the mud was worse...and the fermenting broth >> of straw and spilled beer was too much to take. > > Rain?? Mud?? That was just a wee bit o' damp. At Glasters we had real > rain and mud. The kind of rain and mud that goes on forever and drains > your soul even as it tries to suck off a welly with every step you take, > Mud that permeates every crevice of skin adn clothing and oozes like The > Blob into your sleeping bag to keep you awake and fantasising of hot > showers and soap. > > As for straw, we dreamt of having straw. On the whole of Glasters there > were exactly three straw bales and traders were involved in armed > shootouts to obtain these so that punters could buy from them without > the use of advanced nautical equipment. > > Straw. If only I'd had some straw. Hell, if I could have found grass I'd > have made my own straw. > > FoFP From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 12:38:02 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:38:02 +0100 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing >i see, you have > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike coleman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing > > >> ** >> << wrote: >> >>> <<<>> the >>> <<<>> <<<> >> *Hullo Pete, (yes I got that from Dave, it's "earthy"), and all you >> educated >> ones......first of all MAJOR apologies for this embarrassment to myself >> on >> the board,,,,,,,,I only responded again because Christian (who has become >> a >> good friend in short order) embarrassed me,,,,,,in case one of the words >> he >> used didn't slip by you, blame my friend Mark, not Christian, since he >> got >> it from us (wishing I'd NEVER seen it)........myself, I cannot STAND >> water, >> so whatever I've had has been at least diluted.......which reminds >> me,,,there was an old movie about water supplies being tainted with LSD >> in a >> US town or something, does anyone know this movie??? I have always wanted >> to >> see it in a big way!!!!!????* >> *below is the ridiculous mail I sent to Trev, and since you good people >> got >> exposed to the aftercrud, here it is, and I cringe and duck...PLEASE >> forgive >> me.....* >> *the following review is by "Metallidood"* >> ** >> *Hi kiddies, I've just been sent a promo of "Revolution and Rebellion" a >> sort of "best of" collection of "songs" (and I use this term loosely, it >> is >> certainly a huge stretch) by a very very obscure guitarist (named >> Trevorie >> Tulane Thomas) who faintly glimmered in the public eye for about a >> nanosecond, as a second and lesser known guitarist for a band who was >> almost >> completely invisible to the public eye, back in part of a year in the >> 1980's, I think..... * >> *The CD comes as a bit of a surprise, really, because looking at the >> cover >> artwork before I ever played one song, I was already thinking to myself >> "now >> this is going to have REAL BLANGA!!!"* >> ** >> *the tracks follow, with my reviews aside of them:* >> ** >> *1) Atlantic Waves- {Like, Blanga!!!}* >> *2) Cars Eat With Autoface- {this Blanga goes to eleven!!}* >> *3) Dolphins- {this is more Blanga than Blanga}* >> *4) Bashin Up The Rich {very very dark Blanga}* >> *5) Blue Rinse Haggard Robot {so silly I almost missed the Blanga}* >> *6) Bildeborg-{hilarious spoof of secret shadow Blanga societies}* >> *7) Skinheads In Leningrad-{it's coming up Blanga again, and this is a >> very >> punk rock track}* >> *8) Rituals and Sodomy-{this one really hit me, naughty Blanga}* >> *9) Dog Rot-{what can I say, this guy knows his Blanga}* >> *10) Battle Of The Tress-{very very silly song about Trees fighting, >> didn't >> hear much Blanga on this one}* >> *11) China-{great reminder that even in a holocaust, we can go out with >> "real Blanga feel"}* >> *12) Epitaph-{like, I'm so sure, gag me with a Blanga spoon}* >> > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 13:34:39 2007 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:34:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate Message-ID: 7 foot of water?....nothing! cold gravel?....we would have killed for it this was glastonbury http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/glasto2007.html trev REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, Chat, Healers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chaosillumination" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate > You were lucky Mike, having it so easy at Glasters, we dreamt of being > able to see any actual mud beneath the 7ft of water that was on the main > road interchange into Chesterfield on Monday...we've been living in a lake > here, not the luxury of a tent. And eating freezing cold gravel too. > > http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/chesterfield?articleid=2981617 > > Another 6 inches higher on the 'stream' feeding that puddle and Hawkwind > would no longer have a lightshow. I lost enough gear at the Hawkfest due > to water without being flooded out...hopefully ALL the strobes will be > working next time. > > Neil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Holmes" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate > > >> Keith Henderson writes: >> >>> So the rain was bad...and the mud was worse...and the fermenting broth >>> of straw and spilled beer was too much to take. >> >> Rain?? Mud?? That was just a wee bit o' damp. At Glasters we had real >> rain and mud. The kind of rain and mud that goes on forever and drains >> your soul even as it tries to suck off a welly with every step you take, >> Mud that permeates every crevice of skin adn clothing and oozes like The >> Blob into your sleeping bag to keep you awake and fantasising of hot >> showers and soap. >> >> As for straw, we dreamt of having straw. On the whole of Glasters there >> were exactly three straw bales and traders were involved in armed >> shootouts to obtain these so that punters could buy from them without >> the use of advanced nautical equipment. >> >> Straw. If only I'd had some straw. Hell, if I could have found grass I'd >> have made my own straw. >> >> FoFP > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 15:54:28 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:54:28 -0500 Subject: Alan Davet and thoughts Message-ID: <> FoFP revealed risking possble cover alrighty then , I'll put my guise right up and now and I bet it doesn't stop one trickery (maybe even yours) and then still hit the floor laughing...it works wonders on the pub goers whom cross me so lovingly easy here it is : http://www.buycostumes.com/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=31164&PCatID=childcostumes&ccatid=childanimalcostumes From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jun 27 16:17:54 2007 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:17:54 -0700 Subject: Alan Davet and thoughts In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706271254u6f32550cye761f41329642006@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Wear that to a Flaming Lips show. Gary mike coleman wrote: <> FoFP revealed risking possble cover alrighty then , I'll put my guise right up and now and I bet it doesn't stop one trickery (maybe even yours) and then still hit the floor laughing...it works wonders on the pub goers whom cross me so lovingly easy here it is : http://www.buycostumes.com/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=31164&PCatID=childcostumes&ccatid=childanimalcostumes --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Wed Jun 27 22:26:37 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:26:37 -0500 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed an S, I think Message-ID: On 6/27/07, M Holmes wrote: > > mike coleman writes: > > > there was an old movie about water supplies being tainted with LSD in a > > US town or something, does anyone know this movie??? I have always > wanted to > > see it in a big way!!!!!????* > > @@@@@G.A.S.S. ???@@@@, btw, it's GAS-S-S-S *Nope, "It Became Necessary To Destroy The World In Order To Save It", innit it.* *The closest I came was a 1969 Get Smart episode, and I don't think I could get through that* *how dissappointing if true* From jonathan at ATT.NET Thu Jun 28 11:28:59 2007 From: jonathan at ATT.NET (Jonathan Clark) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:28:59 -0400 Subject: NEARFest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > A) Dibs made a good fist of things. > B) Jason's jazzy synth style doesn't suit Hawkwind. > C) Lightshow very desultory for Hawkwind. I'd agree with all of those. But it seemed like the band was having a good time up on stage, what with Dave complaining about how heavy his new guitar was (and "I'm getting on a bit, you know"). Orgone Accumulator with cocktail jazz piano was pretty strange. I'd also comment that it was a lot quieter than I was expecting - I didn't have to use my earplugs at all (even after Dave remembered to turn up his PA amp, and thanks to the guy who hollered at him to do so). Nice sound mix, even with the odd crackling that was coming out of the stage right PA stack, until the sound guy turned up and kicked something that was under the desk. Anyway, a fun day. I only caught the very end of Magenta's set but it seemed like they might be worthy of some more attention. Anyone else like (or hate) them? Jonathan From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Thu Jun 28 14:28:28 2007 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:28:28 -0400 Subject: NEARFest In-Reply-To: <4683D3BB.2060709@att.net> Message-ID: Quoting Jonathan Clark : > M Holmes wrote: > > A) Dibs made a good fist of things. > > B) Jason's jazzy synth style doesn't suit Hawkwind. > > C) Lightshow very desultory for Hawkwind. > > I'd agree with all of those. I kind of liked the keys. It was different, but I thought it worked just fine. > I'd also comment that it was a lot quieter than I was expecting - I > didn't have to use my earplugs at all In general, NEARFest often tends to have the volume at listenable levels. There is NO reason why one should ever have to use earplugs in a relatively small venue unless you are sitting right in front of the speakers. Anytime you need to put earplugs in, it means the sound person is doing something wrong. Things can be PLENTY loud without hurting your ears. Tool live is generally a very good example of this. > (even after Dave remembered > to turn up his PA amp, and thanks to the guy who hollered at him to > do so). You're welcome. :-) I just want to know how the person in charge of the sound in the house could have been so clueless as to not notice that there was almost no guitar at all for so long. Once in a while it would be audible, then down it would go again. > Nice sound mix, Huh? I though the sound was AWFUL. Dave's guitar was still often going out even after me saying something, there was often no bass drum in the mix until the very end, Richard's mike was off a lot of the time, etc. > even with the odd crackling that was coming > out of the stage right PA stack, until the sound guy turned up and > kicked something that was under the desk. There had been crackling earlier in the day too (and again on Sunday), but it was the worst for HW. > Anyway, a fun day. I only caught the very end of Magenta's set but it > seemed like they might be worthy of some more attention. Anyone else > like (or hate) them? Not hate, but eh. I find most of what they do (and some of Rob Reed's other projects for that matter, like Cyan) very cliched. It's not *bad* (and I like that style of music too, so it's not like I have a stylistic bias), but for a band that is trying to be a very melodic prog band, almost none of the melodies stick in my head, and the lyrics are too often cringe-inducing; I think if Christina didn't enunciate so well, it wouldn't bother me as much. :-) I have the first 2 CD's and keep trying to like them, but it just doesn't click for me. I think the last song they did was The White Queen off the first album, Revolutions, which is definitely one of their best songs. That being said, I still enjoyed the performance, but it didn't "wow" me (like Indukti, for instance). -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Once I thought I saw you in a crowded hazy bar, dancing on the light from star to star. Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are, I saw your brown eyes turning once to fire." Like a Hurricane - NEIL YOUNG From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Jun 28 14:38:19 2007 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:38:19 EDT Subject: Nik: Eastern Haze Message-ID: The tickets arrived yesterday. In a message dated 06/27/2007 16:29:10 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > I know this is not true HW, but it is a hippy up in the middle of a > field and Spaceritual are playing, along with every other > neocrusty-festy band from my youth that are still going, so forgive my > intruding, but > > Is any one else going to Eastern Haze (http://www.easternhaze.com/)? I'm still thinking about it. It was good last year... From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Jun 28 16:32:31 2007 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (EliPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:32:31 EDT Subject: [Hawkwind] setlists for U.S. shows/reality check Message-ID: Hi Hawkfans. I compiled these setlists of the 3 recent US shows (which were awesome) from my foggy memory of events. If anyone has any corrections I'd appreciate them. I'm sure I must have failed somewhere in my recollection of events. I think the setlists are pretty close though. Thanks to any who respond. Yours, Eli Friedman 6/23/07 Nearfest, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Warriors On The Edge Of Time Assault and Battery The Golden Void Where Are They Now? Lighthouse The Awakening The Right Stuff Orgone Accumulator Paradox Robot The Flying Doctor Arrival In Utopia Infinity Sonic Attack Assassins of Allah encores: Spirit of the Age Master of the Universe Welcome to the Future 6/24/07 Allentown, Pennsylvania, Sterling Hotel Quark Strangeness and Charm Warriors On The Edge Of Time Assault and Battery The Golden Void Where Are They Now? Lighthouse The Awakening The Right Stuff Orgone Accumulator Paradox Robot The Flying Doctor Arrival In Utopia Infinity Images Only the Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid Sonic Attack Brainstorm encore: Lord of Light Welcome to the Future 6/25/07 Brooklyn, New York, Europa Club Warriors On The Edge Of Time Assault and Battery The Golden Void Where Are They Now? Lighthouse The Awakening The Right Stuff Orgone Accumulator Paradox Robot The Flying Doctor Quark Strangeness and Charm Arrival In Utopia Infinity Images Only the Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid Sonic Attack Assasssins of Allah encore: Brainstorm ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM Thu Jun 28 19:08:00 2007 From: Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM (Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:08:00 EDT Subject: [Hawkwind] setlists for U.S. shows/reality check Message-ID: Thanks for the list! Couldn't get to Nearfest....man, Magma, too... I can't believe they couldn't get to Cleveland, or Chicago. Was it a Visa issue? I hope you brothers and sisters had a great time. With Mr Lasko in Cleveland and what the solar light show have done for them in the past... How was Magma? Seeing BOC over the holiday...I need a fix... Love in Space, Dale ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Thu Jun 28 19:36:44 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:36:44 -0400 Subject: [Hawkwind] setlists for U.S. shows/reality check In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Dale, As you've probably read from my postings, we were at NF but had to go to the Hawkwind show, so we missed Magma, it was a tough decision. It was great to spend some time with Jim, last time I ran into him, he was with a friend, and I cassually told them they could crash here if something came up, and they were sure they were going right to Vermont. Well, they forgot some of theirstuff at the club, so they both crashed at my place. I'd planned to make, or buy them breakfast,, but they left really early to get on the road. Chris and I have always made it a policy to help fellow travelers that we know, or click with over a show or two. I do hope Magma come back to the states, I'd really like to catch their act, I've only heard a little of their music, but the sci-fi story surrounding them sounds interesting. Peace, Kaduflyer From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 29 00:51:02 2007 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:51:02 -0400 Subject: [Hawkwind] setlists for U.S. shows/reality check In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes it was a visa issue. Brock had a 7 day work visa according to Chad who is one half the the team that makes Nearfest happen every year. Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the pics http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort the myspace http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ the photobucket http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ the flickr site Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM wrote: > Thanks for the list! Couldn't get to Nearfest....man, Magma, too... > > I can't believe they couldn't get to Cleveland, or Chicago. Was it a Visa > issue? I hope you brothers and sisters had a great time. With Mr Lasko in > Cleveland and what the solar light show have done for them in the past... > > How was Magma? > > Seeing BOC over the holiday...I need a fix... > > Love in Space, > > Dale > > > ************************************** > See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > From mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 29 00:55:56 2007 From: mike.montfort at GMAIL.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:55:56 -0400 Subject: NEARFest In-Reply-To: <4683D3BB.2060709@att.net> Message-ID: Wholeheartedly agree with A Completely disagree with B. Jay was awesome at the two shows I saw (I missed Allentown). Much like Zappa, Hawkwind is Dave (and Richard) and those who play with them, and each musician brings his own thing to the band and their interpretations of the songs enrich all of us and the Mothership as well. If Dave thinks he works out thats good enough for me. As for C, it worked for me. ---- Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the pics http://www.myspace.com/mikemontfort the myspace http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m220/MikeMontfort/ the photobucket http://www.flickr.com/photos/corwyn/ the flickr site > M Holmes wrote: >> A) Dibs made a good fist of things. >> B) Jason's jazzy synth style doesn't suit Hawkwind. >> C) Lightshow very desultory for Hawkwind. > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 29 12:06:57 2007 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:06:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest - one to celebrate In-Reply-To: Chaosillumination's message of Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:40:42 +0100 Message-ID: Chaosillumination writes: > Another 6 inches higher on the 'stream' feeding that puddle and Hawkwind > would no longer have a lightshow. I lost enough gear at the Hawkfest due to > water without being flooded out...hopefully ALL the strobes will be working > next time. Sorry to hear of your troubles. Still, it could have been worse: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6748785.stm FoFP From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Jun 29 17:44:18 2007 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:44:18 -0600 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <200706271527.l5RFRAbL006570@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Raising hand... oh, oh, oh... I know which movie you speak of:o) "Wild in the streets"1968 Send all the over 30's to the acid camps.. I loved this movie.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTRNly1UiOw BTW.. Thank you Mike for the DV!!! Deborah www.myspace.com/myst11 M Holmes wrote: > mike coleman writes: > > >> there was an old movie about water supplies being tainted with LSD in a >> US town or something, does anyone know this movie??? I have always wanted to >> see it in a big way!!!!!????* >> > > G.A.S.S. ??? > > FoFP > > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 29 18:12:25 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:12:25 -0500 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <46857D32.5010501@vacano.org> Message-ID: On 6/29/07, Deborah Vacano wrote: > > Raising hand... > oh, oh, oh... > I know which movie you speak of:o) > > "Wild in the streets" > > *Now Deborah, where have you been, you know how lonely it is, and then > gets compounded when you have to put Ozric Tentacles DVD's and Porcupine > Tree CD's back because you don't monetarily "amount" to anything in this > world.....I've tried to sleep as much as possible since TUES nite.....and > yes, you get the big prize, as my space sis Penny confirmed this, but off > list, so YOU WIN!!!!! so glad it was you!!!!!* *Love, the poor and embarrased "bottom feeding" element, I suppose, Mike* From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Jun 29 22:32:31 2007 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 20:32:31 -0600 Subject: (OFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706291512x28b0f88av12028ccbc84bd607@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have been here reading all these crazy posts.. wishing I was back east~ Man oh man.. Sounds so groovy !! thank you guys for posting!! bringing the rest of us there with ya!! sniff sniff cry cry .... wishing Hawkwind would come to Colorado~ but it sounds like an impossibility~ We love our Hawkwind so much here!~~ Mountain daddies!! Come sing!! I personally would love to throw the biggest groovy..ist space rock Colorado BBQ!! I guess that is all I have to say!! I was thanking M. Holmes.. thank you so much sir for the Dv..!! Hugs to me brother Mike!! Its okay Bro!! Don't be sad!! **smile** It's all way coolio!! Deborah www.myspace.com/myst11 mike coleman wrote: > On 6/29/07, Deborah Vacano wrote: >> >> Raising hand... >> oh, oh, oh... >> I know which movie you speak of:o) >> >> "Wild in the streets" >> >> *Now Deborah, where have you been, you know how lonely it is, and then >> gets compounded when you have to put Ozric Tentacles DVD's and Porcupine >> Tree CD's back because you don't monetarily "amount" to anything in this >> world.....I've tried to sleep as much as possible since TUES >> nite.....and >> yes, you get the big prize, as my space sis Penny confirmed this, but >> off >> list, so YOU WIN!!!!! so glad it was you!!!!!* > > > *Love, the poor and embarrased "bottom feeding" element, I suppose, Mike* > From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Fri Jun 29 23:13:24 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:13:24 -0500 Subject: (OFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <4685C0BF.5050505@vacano.org> Message-ID: *Debra....I know aspects of Dave Brock that he revealed to me in a certain way since others get their own special attentions..........we all still remember Boulder......and when they do Dallas, the club will probably pack more than the whole Nearfest.......some of us might be undead, but life isn't quite over........* *I hope the spacewhiches are getting packed regularly, future generations are relying on you,,,,,,,,* *maybe they can hire Ron to do a USA tour, ya know, for me.......* *another personal upheaval.....my friend Pierre who I lost track of gave the band a labcoat and pushed Ron to wear it...it worked well, and I say for the billionth time, Brock, put a photo of it on Ron in the Spacebrock booklet........If I don't have family pics, at least a I have a few lookbacks with the Wind, which my TROUBLE demo keeps reminding me to listen to,......thanks Embalmer* *dogdick* On 6/29/07, Deborah Vacano wrote: > > I have been here reading all these crazy posts.. > wishing I was back east~ > > Man oh man.. Sounds so groovy !! > thank you guys for posting!! > bringing the rest of us there with ya!! > > sniff sniff cry cry .... > wishing Hawkwind would come to Colorado~ > but it sounds like an impossibility~ > > We love our Hawkwind so much here!~~ > Mountain daddies!! Come sing!! > > I personally would love to throw the biggest groovy..ist space rock > Colorado BBQ!! > I guess that is all I have to say!! > > I was thanking M. Holmes.. thank you so much sir for the Dv..!! > > Hugs to me brother Mike!! > > Its okay Bro!! > Don't be sad!! > **smile** > It's all way coolio!! > > > Deborah > www.myspace.com/myst11 > > > > > > > > > > > > mike coleman wrote: > > On 6/29/07, Deborah Vacano wrote: > >> > >> Raising hand... > >> oh, oh, oh... > >> I know which movie you speak of:o) > >> > >> "Wild in the streets" > >> > >> *Now Deborah, where have you been, you know how lonely it is, and then > >> gets compounded when you have to put Ozric Tentacles DVD's and > Porcupine > >> Tree CD's back because you don't monetarily "amount" to anything in > this > >> world.....I've tried to sleep as much as possible since TUES > >> nite.....and > >> yes, you get the big prize, as my space sis Penny confirmed this, but > >> off > >> list, so YOU WIN!!!!! so glad it was you!!!!!* > > > > > > *Love, the poor and embarrased "bottom feeding" element, I suppose, > Mike* > > > From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Jun 29 23:25:31 2007 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:25:31 -0600 Subject: (OFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706292013p7e2861k52751d7edf2471b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Mike... r U on space crack? what'd da frizzz nat~ LOL.. Deborah VVVVV mike coleman wrote: > *Debra....I know aspects of Dave Brock that he revealed to me in a > certain > way since others get their own special attentions..........we all still > remember Boulder......and when they do Dallas, the club will probably > pack > more than the whole Nearfest.......some of us might be undead, but life > isn't quite over........* > *I hope the spacewhiches are getting packed regularly, future generations > are relying on you,,,,,,,,* > *maybe they can hire Ron to do a USA tour, ya know, for me.......* > *another personal upheaval.....my friend Pierre who I lost track of > gave the > band a labcoat and pushed Ron to wear it...it worked well, and I say > for the > billionth time, Brock, put a photo of it on Ron in the Spacebrock > booklet........If I don't have family pics, at least a I have a few > lookbacks with the Wind, which my TROUBLE demo keeps reminding me to > listen > to,......thanks Embalmer* > *dogdick* > > > On 6/29/07, Deborah Vacano wrote: >> >> I have been here reading all these crazy posts.. >> wishing I was back east~ >> >> Man oh man.. Sounds so groovy !! >> thank you guys for posting!! >> bringing the rest of us there with ya!! >> >> sniff sniff cry cry .... >> wishing Hawkwind would come to Colorado~ >> but it sounds like an impossibility~ >> >> We love our Hawkwind so much here!~~ >> Mountain daddies!! Come sing!! >> >> I personally would love to throw the biggest groovy..ist space rock >> Colorado BBQ!! >> I guess that is all I have to say!! >> >> I was thanking M. Holmes.. thank you so much sir for the Dv..!! >> >> Hugs to me brother Mike!! >> >> Its okay Bro!! >> Don't be sad!! >> **smile** >> It's all way coolio!! >> >> >> Deborah >> www.myspace.com/myst11 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> mike coleman wrote: >> > On 6/29/07, Deborah Vacano wrote: >> >> >> >> Raising hand... >> >> oh, oh, oh... >> >> I know which movie you speak of:o) >> >> >> >> "Wild in the streets" >> >> >> >> *Now Deborah, where have you been, you know how lonely it is, and >> then >> >> gets compounded when you have to put Ozric Tentacles DVD's and >> Porcupine >> >> Tree CD's back because you don't monetarily "amount" to anything in >> this >> >> world.....I've tried to sleep as much as possible since TUES >> >> nite.....and >> >> yes, you get the big prize, as my space sis Penny confirmed this, but >> >> off >> >> list, so YOU WIN!!!!! so glad it was you!!!!!* >> > >> > >> > *Love, the poor and embarrased "bottom feeding" element, I suppose, >> Mike* >> > >> > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Fri Jun 29 23:56:49 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:56:49 -0400 Subject: (oFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706291512x28b0f88av12028ccbc84bd607@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: hey now! I won, I really did, I got it first and would have written you earlier but did not see your posting. Right on, Debbie I still get the pries, (big grin), don't take my child like nature seriously. Mike, like you said to me, I'm surprised more people didn't know the answer. Lol, (take it as you like), Kaduflyer P.S. Mike, if you want to talk, I'll be awake for about another hour, or so. If not, ring me up tomorrow night around 10 your time I'm going down to visit with my traveling companions tomorrow.. When you get it, enjoy. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 30 00:00:01 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:00:01 -0500 Subject: (OFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <4685CD2B.50102@vacano.org> Message-ID: ** On 6/29/07, Deborah Vacano wrote: > > Hey Mike... r U on space crack? > what'd da frizzz nat~ > LOL. One thing I like about you is the challenge of being over my head often, in a fun way,,,,I am however wondering, if I may have just been flamed off the forum of sorts..... so I wlll spew forth "insecurities " in my usual fashinon,. crack of any kind, would terrify me, whether from Zeta-Reticuli, or the next door neighbors, etc...that is not a mind expanding thing at all, it's cash draining "cheese" of a concoction.....(and if I catch any of you admittiting to cheese use, Steve and Ben will need to kick you off until we're satisfied treatment has taken hold)., it exists, it's a Dallas embarrassment, and Mumford is behind it as he is many things only I've been priveliged to take in...... what I was saying, is this , Dave, and Richard, and whoever the falovour of the minute is, are Doctors.........consider this on levels......... love, taking pride in the river and the lessons I've learned (hear Trower's licks??) FoJTT ps- in a way, I was thanking Dave (especially on this since it's his solo) for preserving a happy memory that I wasn't man enough to retain, apparently, and yes, bragging again, but REMENBER, I will NEVER complain on ANYONE unless attacked .rock stars are not all I'm here for ....I require my own breathing room too........ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 30 00:15:28 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:15:28 -0400 Subject: (OFF) except you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <4685C0BF.5050505@vacano.org> Message-ID: Hi Deb, Your thoughts say it all, nice to meet another woman here in the forum. I remember when we traveled with Hawkwind when they played The Mercury in Denver, and The Dead were in town for a couple of nights. We went to check out the scene, but neglected to bring handbills announcing to all the Deadheads who didn't have tickets that Hawkwind were in town. Dave said they should have thought to rent a flatbed truck and generator so they could have played the parking lot. After he said that, I didn't feel so bad, since that would have been an even better way to bring in people. I hope Hawkwind come back again, but I don't think it's likely. I don't mean to be a bummer, but with the attendance at the last shows that's how it seems. I really appreciate that they came over to play for us lucky few. I know Colorado is a long way from the shows, and if you can't afford it that's a drag, but a lot of people wimped out which is sad. As I've mentioned previously, it was a nice sort of gathering of the tribes for me, although I thought a lot of the NF people were snobs, (I'm more progressive than you, since my band is more musically complex), or whatever. Some of the people were so full of themselves they weren't even friendly to people like me who listen to what they think of as repetitive boring drone. They are the ones that don't listen, as we all know there's a lot below the surface with Hawkwind. Maybe you'll be lucky, and win on a scratch ticket or something so you can go over to the U.K. for a fix of Hawkwind, that's the only way I'll get over there. Pandora did leave hope in the box though. Peace, Kaduflyer From deborah at VACANO.ORG Sat Jun 30 00:23:11 2007 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:23:11 -0600 Subject: WAY(OFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <17d80c610706292100k24e3a82eja9e1b255ec9b83ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: All I can say is you are right.. Robyn Trower is cool.. and you are also right.. Crack is a Zeta-Reticulin drug!! Mike, your heart is too big for that.. I'm sorry for being mean.. Your a good guy!! And, I give Mary A. the gold medal for the right answer.. I guess I'm just to old... over 30 and need to be retired to the acid camp! woo hoo saucers in my eyes~ Love and Peas!! Deborah www.myspace.com/myst11 mike coleman wrote: > ** > On 6/29/07, Deborah Vacano wrote: >> >> Hey Mike... r U on space crack? >> what'd da frizzz nat~ >> LOL. > > > One thing I like about you is the challenge of being over my head > often, in > a fun way,,,,I am however wondering, if I may have just been flamed > off the > forum of sorts..... > so I wlll spew forth "insecurities " in my usual fashinon,. crack of any > kind, would terrify me, whether from Zeta-Reticuli, or the next door > neighbors, etc...that is not a mind expanding thing at all, it's cash > draining "cheese" of a concoction.....(and if I catch any of you > admittiting > to cheese use, Steve and Ben will need to kick you off until we're > satisfied treatment has taken hold)., it exists, it's a Dallas > embarrassment, and Mumford is behind it as he is many things only I've > been > priveliged to take in...... > what I was saying, is this , Dave, and Richard, and whoever the > falovour of > the minute is, are Doctors.........consider this on levels......... > love, taking pride in the river and the lessons I've learned (hear > Trower's > licks??) FoJTT > ps- in a way, I was thanking Dave (especially on this since it's his > solo) > for preserving a happy memory that I wasn't man enough to retain, > apparently, and yes, bragging again, but REMENBER, I will NEVER > complain on > ANYONE unless attacked .rock stars are not all I'm here for ....I > require my > own breathing room too........ > From deborah at VACANO.ORG Sat Jun 30 00:42:40 2007 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:42:40 -0600 Subject: (OFF) except you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Mercury? Wow.. when was that? Man oh mighty!! that would have been something!! I only got a chance to see Hawkwind one time at The Fox in Boulder... Glad to meet another space sister in the forum~;o) Yea for you!! I am so glad you were able to catch them this time around~ I need to blow the dust off my passport.. i hope someday I will be able to put it to some use~ Yep.. the east coast is a little to far from us~ And i totally agree with you people are getting really weird these days at shows.. Snobbie and Snubbie.. yuppie and gruppie!! Thinking of the last time we saw Primus.. about 8 months ago... This drunk dude tried to crawl his way up on stage.. and ripped all the wires out of the sound board.. and then some other bad cat was yelling at Les all night.. couldn't believe it.. calling him an asshole and how he hated him... needless to say.. Les wasn't pleased~ Some shows are so spiritual .. and awesome.. and some shows are just so messed up due to such weird crowds~ We have been to alot of shows this year.. It's our one outlet in life..lol I think the best show I saw was "The Who".. In MHO.. they were just amazing!! Anyway.. hope to maybe meet up with you someday~ Big space sister hug! Deborah vzenv14m wrote: > Hi Deb, > Your thoughts say it all, nice to meet another woman here in the forum. I > remember when we traveled with Hawkwind when they played The Mercury in > Denver, and The Dead were in town for a couple of nights. We went to check > out the scene, but neglected to bring handbills announcing to all the > Deadheads who didn't have tickets that Hawkwind were in town. Dave said > they should have thought to rent a flatbed truck and generator so they could > have played the parking lot. After he said that, I didn't feel so bad, > since that would have been an even better way to bring in people. I hope > Hawkwind come back again, but I don't think it's likely. I don't mean to be > a bummer, but with the attendance at the last shows that's how it seems. I > really appreciate that they came over to play for us lucky few. I know > Colorado is a long way from the shows, and if you can't afford it that's a > drag, but a lot of people wimped out which is sad. As I've mentioned > previously, it was a nice sort of gathering of the tribes for me, although I > thought a lot of the NF people were snobs, (I'm more progressive than you, > since my band is more musically complex), or whatever. Some of the people > were so full of themselves they weren't even friendly to people like me who > listen to what they think of as repetitive boring drone. They are the ones > that don't listen, as we all know there's a lot below the surface with > Hawkwind. > > Maybe you'll be lucky, and win on a scratch ticket or something so you can > go over to the U.K. for a fix of Hawkwind, that's the only way I'll get over > there. Pandora did leave hope in the box though. > > Peace, > > Kaduflyer > > From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 30 07:47:38 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:47:38 -0400 Subject: (OFF) except you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: <4685DF40.6020908@vacano.org> Message-ID: The Mercury was '90, the show you saw was '95. From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Jun 30 00:13:02 2007 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:13:02 +0000 Subject: (OFF) excecpt you missed one unreal thing Message-ID: So Mike, are you saying I am your Dallas 'Cheese' dope dealer and that I am an embarrasment in Dallas....... ? :-)) (nobody can eat Superman) Meth-Embalmer One thing I like about you is the challenge of being over my head often, in a fun way,,,,I am however wondering, if I may have just been flamed off the forum of sorts..... so I wlll spew forth "insecurities " in my usual fashinon,. crack of any kind, would terrify me, whether from Zeta-Reticuli, or the next door neighbors, etc...that is not a mind expanding thing at all, it's cash draining "cheese" of a concoction.....(and if I catch any of you admittiting to cheese use, Steve and Ben will need to kick you off until we're satisfied treatment has taken hold)., it exists, it's a Dallas embarrassment, and Mumford is behind it as he is many things only I've been priveliged to take in...... what I was saying, is this , Dave, and Richard, and whoever the falovour of the minute is, are Doctors.........consider this on levels......... love, taking pride in the river and the lessons I've learned (hear Trower's licks??) FoJTT ps- in a way, I was thanking Dave (especially on this since it's his solo) for preserving a happy memory that I wasn't man enough to retain, apparently, and yes, bragging again, but REMENBER, I will NEVER complain on ANYONE unless attacked .rock stars are not all I'm here for ....I require my own breathing room too........ ___________________________________________________________ Now you can have your favourite RSS headlines come to you with the all new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 30 08:01:03 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:01:03 -0500 Subject: (OFF) except you missed one unreal thing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>On 6/30/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > >< On monday,July 1st,the Belgian television is coming to film my Hawkcave,my Hawkwind collection and an interview about Hawkwind,don't know yet when it will be broadcast. greetings filip From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Sat Jun 30 09:10:10 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:10:10 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey and thoughts In-Reply-To: <200706271521.l5RFLbNC005379@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 04:21:37PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > mike coleman writes: > > > *I will say for myself, however, if he is doing his own thing for a bit, a > > telephone call to Ron would please the shit out of me > > No. No. NO! > > If we're to have ex-bassists back, then it's Adrian Shaw to the Big Red > Courtesy Phone... > > Sorry, but apart from a pretty good Calvert impression on Steppenwolf, > Ron pretty much held things back... I kinda liked Ron. Don't know what he contributed as an instrumentalist or songwriter, but I liked his renditions of Calvert's stuff. Hey, what ever happened to that Lemmy guy? He was pretty good. ;-) Steve From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Sat Jun 30 09:44:09 2007 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:44:09 -0400 Subject: Dave's guitar In-Reply-To: <20070627095225.a4f5kw4c4040wo8k@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 09:52:25AM -0400, David Kuznick wrote: > Quoting Carl Edlund Anderson : > > > On 26/06/2007 17:03, David Kuznick wrote: > > > BTW, that was me who yelled to Dave that we couldn't hear > > > his guitar :-). > > > > Good man! :) > > :-) He responded something like "I'm the one that's usually playing too loud". Ok, we need to nip that notion in the bud!!! BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA! Steve From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Jun 30 11:49:13 2007 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:49:13 +0100 Subject: HW: "High Rise" versions Message-ID: As I recall, the CD releases of PXR5 have a different (live) version of "High Rise" from the original studio version on the vinyl release, but I also remember reading somewhere that the studio version had eventually appeared on CD on some compilations. Were these _Spirit of the Age_ and the closely related _Tales from Atomhenge_? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET Sat Jun 30 13:20:51 2007 From: maryann.sullivan1 at VERIZON.NET (vzenv14m) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:20:51 -0400 Subject: "High Rise" versions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The mix of PXR5 is slightly different as well, I prefer the original High Rise. From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 30 13:32:15 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:32:15 -0500 Subject: HW: "High Rise" versions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 6/30/07, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > As I recall, the CD releases of PXR5 have a different (live) version > of "High Rise" from the original studio version on the vinyl release, > but I also remember reading somewhere that the studio version had > eventually appeared on CD on some compilations. Were these _Spirit > of the Age_ and the closely related _Tales from Atomhenge_? *This one I never investigated like I should.......but recall you are correct, and have a memory of Brian Perera telling me the cassette version was different (which I think he may have used, can't recall), so I wonder which version that was......* *also, I read on Starfarers page the the 2 Calvert LP's from the 70' were being reissued with bonus tracks...any info on these??? and did they ever fix that "spoken track" off Lucky Leaf???* *BTW- I have a mint copy of the original "Spirit Of The Age" CD comp on Virgin, I'd consider selling if the $$$ were right.....* *mike* From insect.brain at GMAIL.COM Sat Jun 30 13:37:39 2007 From: insect.brain at GMAIL.COM (mike coleman) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:37:39 -0500 Subject: (Off Subject) "High Rise" versions Message-ID: On 6/30/07, vzenv14m wrote: > > The mix of PXR5 is slightly different as well, I prefer the original High > Rise. > I made it all this way, and my collection is ruined and I must die.... not *PXR5,,,,,,,* From youless at COX.NET Sat Jun 30 14:47:14 2007 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:47:14 -0400 Subject: HW: "High Rise" versions Message-ID: Yes, those 2 CD compilations do indeed contain the original vinyl version of High Rise. This kind of question is answered by the Hawkwind Codex at http://www.starfarer.net/hwcodex.html Cheers Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:49:13 +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >As I recall, the CD releases of PXR5 have a different (live) version >of "High Rise" from the original studio version on the vinyl release, >but I also remember reading somewhere that the studio version had >eventually appeared on CD on some compilations. Were these _Spirit >of the Age_ and the closely related _Tales from Atomhenge_? > >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >http://www.carlaz.com/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Jun 30 09:40:10 2007 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (Amphetamine Embalmer) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:40:10 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey and thoughts Message-ID: Alien 4 and Distant Horizons maa aaaaaaan!!!!!! c. ----- Original Message ---- From: Stephen Swann To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Sent: Saturday, 30 June, 2007 3:10:10 PM Subject: Re: Alan Davey and thoughts On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 04:21:37PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > mike coleman writes: > > > *I will say for myself, however, if he is doing his own thing for a bit, a > > telephone call to Ron would please the shit out of me > > No. No. NO! > > If we're to have ex-bassists back, then it's Adrian Shaw to the Big Red > Courtesy Phone... > > Sorry, but apart from a pretty good Calvert impression on Steppenwolf, > Ron pretty much held things back... I kinda liked Ron. Don't know what he contributed as an instrumentalist or songwriter, but I liked his renditions of Calvert's stuff. Hey, what ever happened to that Lemmy guy? He was pretty good. ;-) Steve ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/