From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Nov 1 17:59:49 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:59:49 +0000 Subject: HW: Upcoming Litmus Gigs (and a Space Ritual gig) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 12:18:45AM +0100, trev typed out: > another incisive review by jj but i fear (because of your unsurpassed review > accuracy), you may be adopting (unwhittingly ) the clothing of the > (enlightened) bigot. > one piece of advice for jj: don't expect everything to fall into your > preconceptions of what you think it should sound like. this is your one > failing. we, the creators of styles, react to reality, and this never > conforms with what has gone before. accept and judge as best you can It's not my only failing by a long chalk, mate, it's just the most obvious one that gets onto BOC-L... I take your point, of course. It's a weakness I recognise in myself, I mean it took me ages to learn to love the Brain Surgeons because what I *wanted* was some way in which more BOC would exist. Likewise with the MoAB stuff I probably shouldn't have been expecting high-speed punk, though I'm sure I remember some comment of yours on this list about Terry Ollis refusing to drum for you and Ron because you went too fast. But that was Bajina not MoAB. Anyway, yes, it's a fair criticism and I do try and watch for it. I suspect a band with no hype gets a fairer hearing from me than one that's good at putting itself forward, anyway, I do tend to want to snarl at advertising. People creating styles is fine with me though. A couple of my favourite bands have more or less blended their own (Clutch being the obvious one). Though there are lots of things I'd like there to be more of, replicating what has already been new once probably irks me more in the long run, say, over the course of a full set or album... In the case of Litmus they've got an obvious influence to outshine and I think the next album is going to leave that influence much further behind and mark their own territory a lot better. Space Ritual meanwhile did look as if they were going to at least remould the stuff they use, which is kind of inevitably well-worn, but the last time I saw them that promise appeared to have been lost. I'm hoping to make the gig on Sunday 13th and maybe then they'll change my mind again. But generally I wish more people would create styles. I realise it in't that easy, of course. Yours, Jon ObCD: Man - _Man_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Nov 1 18:16:17 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:16:17 +0000 Subject: HW: Upcoming Litmus Gigs (and a Space Ritual gig) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 12:40:14AM +0100, trev typed out: > the only appeal of space ritual, and hawkwind, for that matter, is to remind > people of their halcyon days - this is one of the things that music is very > effective at doing. space ritual are all crap musicians (apart from nik), > resting on fragile laurels, but lots of people like that. I suspect Dave Anderson of not playing at full strength most of the time. He's clearly not the young man in 1971 Amon Duul II any more, but at the Nik Turner's Space Unit gig he did at least show some energy and speed he doesn't usually have to with Space Ritual. Nik too can certainly deliver a lot better than he usually does, though he's almost always fun to hear. Sam Ollis is I think pretty good. Terry is pretty solid but only, it seems, within a very limited range of sound patterns now. (This is very sad I think.) I don't think I'd want to defend any of the others from what you say here though. The thing about Hawkwind, I don't agree with you there. For one thing they've had several halcyon days, depending on when people first saw them. I know some people (you know one of them, indeed, Melissa from Pyramids of SNAFU) who identify with Hawkwind in the 1980s Stonehenge era much more than they do with the Space Ritual one. Similarly, though I love _Space Ritual_ *I* never saw any band come close to it live, except maybe the second Hawkestra in a really unsubtle way, and to me tip-top live Hawkwind is Hawkwind as they were in 1996, when I first saw them, or in 2001 when suddenly they had all their best musicians at once, everything seemed to be going on and all kinds of potential swirling round them. But they aren't currently doing much that sounds like either, and anyone going out for a halcyon Hawkset is likely to be disappointed. If that means they aren't fulfilling their function, well, um, I'd probably agree with you there because they seem to have mislaid the thing that makes their sets a coherent experience rather than a series of songs, which to me is definitely part of that ideal trip, but I don't know that many other fans would say they're not delivering the goods right now. Are they just seeing the old band on the stage anyway d'you think? > this is not an age of acceptance of the unusual and when unusual gems > appear, they are more often than not, ignored or denigrated. I don't disagree with this, but I'd be quite interested in what recommendations you might make for stuff that's overlooked. Assuming we put _God and Man_ and _Insect Brain_ in whichever of first and second places you'd like :-) what else is there out there that you reckon should be more heard than it is? Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Nov 1 18:21:44 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:21:44 +0000 Subject: OFF: Colour Haze & Los Natas; Euro dates incl. UK In-Reply-To: <435F9D90.2050006@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 04:15:28PM +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > Los Natas did a HW cover, too, I think .... "Brainstorm"? Not in > Spanish, though, AFAICR .... No, it's in English, and it's only all right really. It's on a fairly disappointing compilation of seventies covers by stoner bands called _Sucking the 70s_, which has so very many good ideas and so few of them coming off. Clutch, for example, cover Tull's `Cross-Eyed Mary', which should be a match made in heaven, but it's a sub-par live performance with no frills when frills is half of what it's about.[1] I'm sure they could do it better than that. Tummler's `Working for MCA' adds pace but loses snarl and shape from the original, and it goes on like that. Los Natas's performance is probably one of the less disappointing pieces on it, but really, it's a poor collection. Just by way of warning, yours, Jon [1] Though the Mushroom River Band's version of `Hymn 43' is surprisingly OK. -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From dplaw at IC24.NET Tue Nov 1 19:22:26 2005 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:22:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Get Voting Message-ID: there's no real easy way of putting this other than i suggest that all of you visit the following page that I've just posted to the Hawkwind Museum site - http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm it's all pretty self explanatory really! this is no flash in the pan thing and should hopefully get us all riveted for several weeks to come! come on you're curious aren't you? so click on the link above enjoy! regards Dave From steve.bishop at DB.COM Wed Nov 2 02:59:11 2005 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 07:59:11 +0000 Subject: HW: Get Voting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It has to be Lord of Light - will be fantastic to hear Alans amazing bass playing on such a classic ................. Dave Law Sent by: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET 02/11/2005 00:22 cc Subject Please respond to HW: Get Voting BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List there's no real easy way of putting this other than i suggest that all of you visit the following page that I've just posted to the Hawkwind Museum site - http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm it's all pretty self explanatory really! this is no flash in the pan thing and should hopefully get us all riveted for several weeks to come! come on you're curious aren't you? so click on the link above enjoy! regards Dave -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Nov 2 05:25:58 2005 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:25:58 +0000 Subject: HW: Get Voting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just hope Dave means "Arrival in Utopia", and not the actual track "utopia"! lol Pete(you gotta get into it, to get out of it) >From: Steve Bishop >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: Get Voting >Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 07:59:11 +0000 > >It has to be Lord of Light - will be fantastic to hear Alans amazing bass >playing on such a classic ................. > > > > > > Dave Law > Sent by: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To > > > > > > BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > 02/11/2005 00:22 > > > > > > > > > > > > > cc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject > > > Please respond to > > > HW: Get Voting > > > BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > > > > > > > > >there's no real easy way of putting this other than i suggest that all of >you visit the following page that I've just posted to the Hawkwind Museum >site - >http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm > >it's all pretty self explanatory really! > >this is no flash in the pan thing and should hopefully get us all riveted >for several weeks to come! > >come on you're curious aren't you? so click on the link above > >enjoy! > >regards > >Dave > > > > > >-- > >This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you >are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) >please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any >unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this >e-mail is strictly forbidden. _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Nov 2 05:48:37 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:48:37 +0000 Subject: HW: Get Voting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If Lighthouse is on there, does that potentially mean that Tim Blake will play Iain pete howe wrote on 11/2/2005, 10:25 AM: > I just hope Dave means "Arrival in Utopia", and not the actual track > "utopia"! > lol > Pete(you gotta get into it, to get out of it) > > > >From: Steve Bishop > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >Subject: Re: HW: Get Voting > >Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 07:59:11 +0000 > > > >It has to be Lord of Light - will be fantastic to hear Alans amazing > bass > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Nov 2 06:13:19 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:13:19 +0000 Subject: HW: Get Voting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, clearly, the answer is: Upside Down! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Nov 2 06:41:54 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:41:54 GMT Subject: HW: Get Voting In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:48:37 +0000 Message-ID: Iain Ferguson writes: > If Lighthouse is on there, does that potentially mean that Tim Blake > will play If Blake plays, we'd better have New Jerusalem. Bet he's not coming tho.... FoFP From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Wed Nov 2 07:38:53 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 04:38:53 -0800 Subject: OFF: Colour Haze & Los Natas; Euro dates incl. UK In-Reply-To: <20051101232144.GF32123@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: Jon said... Jonathan Jarrett wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 04:15:28PM +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > Los Natas did a HW cover, too, I think .... "Brainstorm"? Not in > Spanish, though, AFAICR .... >No, it's in English, and it's only all right really. It's on a >fairly disappointing compilation of seventies covers by stoner bands >called _Sucking the 70s_, which has so very many good ideas and so few of >them coming off. Hmmm...I?ve been told that their version on Brainstorm on the Muenchen Sessions CD (I believe it is) *is* actually in Spanish, but I haven't got it (either), so I am not one to say for sure. BTW, I saw their show in Leuven, BE which was quite good, but it was not entirely enjoyable mainly because the club was awful. It looked like they just got ?hold of the joint one day earlier and only had a couple hours to build a stage (plywood), soundsystem (the sound was OK actually), 'lighting rig' (plumbing pipes) and 'decorate.' Plus, it was about 15 feet wide, and 80 feet long, and it was fairly packed (maybe 200) and with the bar along the one side and merch table on the other, it was nearly impossible to move back to front. Plus, since it was mandatory that everyone who paid to get in, each smoke about a pack of cigarettes, the place was a nightmare to try to breath in. (I was chuffed to find out that Columbus, OH has now banned smoking in bars/clubs...makes it almost bearable to live there! But when is that going to happen in central Europe?...we need it here desperately!) I also didn?t care much for Natas' style of performance, although the songs were quite good. They looked as if they didn?t distinguish between farting around in the practice room, and playing on stage in front of an audience. I couldn't tell sometimes the difference between guitar riff intros/outros, and testing effects pedals and tuning...and then when the guitarist broke a string, they all just drifted offstage for 5 minutes until he had time to fix it...no urgency whatsoever to get on with it. Strange. Nevertheless, it was worth seeing for sure. The opening band, some local Belgian group, was fairly decent too...more uptempo style of Stoner Rock, a la Nebula. I forgotten their name already, something beginning with C. Ciao...Grakkl (in W?rzburg DE) P.S. Ozrics in Eindhoven, NL were alright, but now without John they are hardly the same band anymore...I don't know why exactly Eddie is forging on with it alone. Going to see iQ in Aschaffenburg next, then VDGG in Leverkusen...that should be cool. Is the Stoke (Hawkwind) show not happening?? It would fit nicely between the first two and last two dates to make a five-date semi-coherent minitour...too bad if it doesn't come through. Any events/plans for the Astoria show this time 'round? Just wondering. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From neiltoyne at NTLWORLD.COM Wed Nov 2 12:45:00 2005 From: neiltoyne at NTLWORLD.COM (Neil Toyne) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:45:00 -0000 Subject: HW: Get Voting Message-ID: If only so that we can find out the proper lyrics.......... Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:13 AM Subject: Re: HW: Get Voting > Well, clearly, the answer is: Upside Down! :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea at carlaz.com > http://www.carlaz.com/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/154 - Release Date: 01/11/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/154 - Release Date: 01/11/2005 From dplaw at IC24.NET Thu Nov 3 05:50:11 2005 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 05:50:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Get Voting Message-ID: just a quick update! (I'll try not to post incessantly like i did for chart trek!) well voting has been open for just over a day and already the number cast runs into the 100's so many thanks to those of you who've already nailed your colors to your particular mast, if you haven't, then it'll take seconds so what are you waiting for, click on - http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm and have your say. one thing i have decided, is that in the early weeks of voting I'm just going to announce the name or in this weeks case names of those songs eliminated without going into too much detail as i feel this will keep things more interesting and you're going to have to keep coming back each week to vote as your "X" could be the difference. however please do not hesitate to contact me (preferably off list) if you have any concerns or queries. don't forget to tell friends, family, colleagues etc who you think might be interested - the more the merrier! thanks as ever for your patience and understanding in matter regards Dave From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Nov 3 07:00:29 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:00:29 GMT Subject: HW: Get Voting In-Reply-To: Dave Law's message of Thu, 3 Nov 2005 05:50:11 -0500 Message-ID: Dave Law writes: > just a quick update! (I'll try not to post incessantly like i did for chart > trek!) > > well voting has been open for just over a day and already the number cast > runs into the 100's so many thanks to those of you who've already nailed > your colors to your particular mast, if you haven't, then it'll take seconds > so what are you waiting for, click on - > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm Of course Single Transferrable Vote (which is what this amounts to) is a system of voting which will find the least disliked candidate rather than the most liked. Discuss... FoFP From andrew.sones at BANKOFAMERICA.COM Thu Nov 3 07:36:26 2005 From: andrew.sones at BANKOFAMERICA.COM (Sones, Andrew) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:36:26 -0000 Subject: HW: Get Voting Message-ID: for all his work with the SOTA Chart Trek i think it'd be good if dave law was involved in introducing the wining song on stage during the astoria gig -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 03 November 2005 12:00 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Get Voting Dave Law writes: > just a quick update! (I'll try not to post incessantly like i did for > chart > trek!) > > well voting has been open for just over a day and already the number > cast runs into the 100's so many thanks to those of you who've already > nailed your colors to your particular mast, if you haven't, then it'll > take seconds so what are you waiting for, click on - > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm Of course Single Transferrable Vote (which is what this amounts to) is a system of voting which will find the least disliked candidate rather than the most liked. Discuss... FoFP Notice to recipient: The information in this internet e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee please notify the sender immediately by telephone. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Nov 3 15:49:17 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:49:17 -0000 Subject: HW: Upcoming Litmus Gigs (and a Space Ritual gig) Message-ID: the point i was trying to make about the halcyon days guff is that this is a usual way for bands to "get into your head" - of course i had to make it sound like a sweeping statement. i wouldn't put god and man anywhere - it's a wierd album - insect brain - yes - the sounds of a band searching for and finding a groove - other bands: greltch, monty oxymoron, poly styrene (new album out), acid mothers of course - millions of 'em trev REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, Chat, Healers AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS TO MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR http://www.judgetrev.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: Re: HW: Upcoming Litmus Gigs (and a Space Ritual gig) > On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 12:40:14AM +0100, trev typed out: >> the only appeal of space ritual, and hawkwind, for that matter, is to >> remind >> people of their halcyon days - this is one of the things that music is >> very >> effective at doing. space ritual are all crap musicians (apart from nik), >> resting on fragile laurels, but lots of people like that. > > I suspect Dave Anderson of not playing at full strength most of > the time. He's clearly not the young man in 1971 Amon Duul II any more, > but at the Nik Turner's Space Unit gig he did at least show some energy > and speed he doesn't usually have to with Space Ritual. Nik too can > certainly deliver a lot better than he usually does, though he's almost > always fun to hear. Sam Ollis is I think pretty good. Terry is pretty > solid but only, it seems, within a very limited range of sound patterns > now. (This is very sad I think.) I don't think I'd want to defend any of > the others from what you say here though. > > The thing about Hawkwind, I don't agree with you there. For one > thing they've had several halcyon days, depending on when people first saw > them. I know some people (you know one of them, indeed, Melissa from > Pyramids of SNAFU) who identify with Hawkwind in the 1980s Stonehenge era > much more than they do with the Space Ritual one. Similarly, though I love > _Space Ritual_ *I* never saw any band come close to it live, except maybe > the second Hawkestra in a really unsubtle way, and to me tip-top live > Hawkwind is Hawkwind as they were in 1996, when I first saw them, or in > 2001 when suddenly they had all their best musicians at once, everything > seemed to be going on and all kinds of potential swirling round them. But > they aren't currently doing much that sounds like either, and anyone going > out for a halcyon Hawkset is likely to be disappointed. > > If that means they aren't fulfilling their function, well, um, I'd > probably agree with you there because they seem to have mislaid the thing > that makes their sets a coherent experience rather than a series of songs, > which to me is definitely part of that ideal trip, but I don't know that > many other fans would say they're not delivering the goods right now. Are > they just seeing the old band on the stage anyway d'you think? > >> this is not an age of acceptance of the unusual and when unusual gems >> appear, they are more often than not, ignored or denigrated. > > I don't disagree with this, but I'd be quite interested in what > recommendations you might make for stuff that's overlooked. Assuming we > put _God and Man_ and _Insect Brain_ in whichever of first and second > places you'd like :-) what else is there out there that you reckon should > be more heard than it is? Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -------------------------------------------------------- > "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Nov 4 05:40:55 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:40:55 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind scheduled for 11th Roadburn Festival In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 08:08:05PM -0400, Jerry Kranitz typed out: > Roadburn's very pleased to announce that Hawkwind will be headlining the > 11th Roadburn Festival, Saturday, April 22, 2006, 013 Tilburg-Holland. The > band will be playing a one-off show in Europe that weekend. Bevis Frond will > also be playing Roadburn 2006 as well as Colour Haze. We hope to confirm The > Heads in the next few weeks. Keep checking www.roadburn.com for updates. That's pretty encouraging really, as the recent reduction of activity in the Woronzow camp had had me worried that Nick was going to give up on the whole Frond thing (though then what would he do instead?) I don't know if I'll be able to make it to this but I hope so already. Yours, Jon ObCD: Monster Magnet - _God Says No_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Nov 4 08:07:31 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 07:07:31 -0600 Subject: HW: antidrug lemmy Message-ID: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/11/03/dont_forget_the_joker.html Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/ENSS University of Chicago/NSIT/ENSS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Nov 4 08:52:52 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:52:52 +0000 Subject: HW: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 04/11/2005 13:07, Arin Komins wrote: > http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/11/03/dont_forget_the_joker.html "Anti-heroin" Lemmy, anyway. Lemmy's antipathy towards heroin goes back a long way (and rightly so, really). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Fri Nov 4 09:10:23 2005 From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:10:23 -0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy Message-ID: http://society.guardian.co.uk/drugsandalcohol/story/0,8150,1627374,00.ht ml says he was advocating legalisation of it, despite its evilness. -----Original Message----- http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/11/03/dont_forget_the_jok er.html Arin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. BRE Trust, Registered under number 3282856 in England and Wales, and registered as a charity (No 1092193). Building Research Establishment Ltd, Registered under number 3319324 in England and Wales. BRE Certification Limited, Registered under number 3548352 in England and Wales. Registered Offices: Bucknalls Lane, Garston, Watford, Hertfordshire WD25 9XX From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Nov 4 09:16:13 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:16:13 -0600 Subject: HW: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <436B67B4.6030804@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: antidrug lemmy : :On 04/11/2005 13:07, Arin Komins wrote: :> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2005/11/03/dont_forget_the_joker.html : :"Anti-heroin" Lemmy, anyway. Lemmy's antipathy towards heroin goes back :a long way (and rightly so, really). Yep. Just an amusing choice for a spokesperson for antidrugs. (since you have to figure that most folks won't know that the antipathy is only towards heroin ;-) ) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/ENSS University of Chicago/NSIT/ENSS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Nov 4 09:25:33 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:25:33 GMT Subject: HW: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:16:13 -0600 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Yep. Just an amusing choice for a spokesperson for antidrugs. An even more amazing spokesman for Tinnitus Awreness. FoFP From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Nov 4 09:29:06 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:29:06 +0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <539D43F00153574B8DA4C5B01D8961F9D5E6EE@OPHELIA.bre.co.uk> Message-ID: On 04/11/2005 14:10, Wright, Mike wrote: > http://society.guardian.co.uk/drugsandalcohol/story/0,8150,1627374,00.ht > ml says he was advocating legalisation of it, despite its evilness. Ooo, I bet he's read his history on Prohibition in the States ;) If you want to turn something that people like into a unregulated source of criminal income ... well, criminalise it, obviously! On 04/11/2005 14:16, Arin Komins wrote: > Yep. Just an amusing choice for a spokesperson for antidrugs. (since > you have to figure that most folks won't know that the antipathy is > only towards heroin ;-) ) ;) I would think merely looking at Lemmy (or Ozzy for that matter) would be enough to make plenty of folks swear off anything stronger than camomile ;) Cheers, Carl ObTrack: "Dopamine", Iommi & Hughes. -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Nov 4 09:50:48 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:50:48 +0000 Subject: HW: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <200511041425.jA4EPXjo013571@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 04/11/2005 14:25, M Holmes wrote: > An even more amazing spokesman for Tinnitus Awreness. Sorry, couldn't quite catch that .... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri Nov 4 09:59:42 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:59:42 +0000 Subject: OFF: Colour Haze & Los Natas; Euro dates incl. UK In-Reply-To: <20051101232144.GF32123@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 01/11/2005 23:21, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > It's on a > fairly disappointing compilation of seventies covers by stoner bands > called _Sucking the 70s_, which has so very many good ideas and so few of > them coming off. Clutch, for example, cover Tull's `Cross-Eyed Mary', > which should be a match made in heaven, but it's a sub-par live > performance with no frills when frills is half of what it's about.[1] I'm > sure they could do it better than that. That *is* disappointing! It had never occured to me until you mentioned it, but now that you have, I can't think of a better band (on paper at least) to tackle that era of Tull than Clutch. > [1] Though the Mushroom River Band's version of `Hymn 43' is surprisingly > OK. Woah! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Nov 4 10:23:50 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:23:50 GMT Subject: HW: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:50:48 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > On 04/11/2005 14:25, M Holmes wrote: > > An even more amazing spokesman for Tinnitus Awreness. > Sorry, couldn't quite catch that .... WHAAAASSATT?? Twenty past Seven. FoFP From dplaw at IC24.NET Sat Nov 5 18:08:13 2005 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:08:13 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] voting closes in little over 12 hours! Message-ID: hi all just a quick reminder that the first round of voting in the "Right To Decide" poll closes tomorrow at Midday UK time. so if you haven't voted yet then please do so at - http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm voting then commences straight after for the next week but minus the 2 least popular songs. it's no forgone conclusion yet as to which ones are going to fall from the list so it is imperative that you vote to give your favorite the best chance of staying in the race. thanks as ever regards Dave From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Nov 6 07:14:30 2005 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 07:14:30 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] First weeks Poll results are in! Message-ID: hi all just to let you know that the first weeks Poll in the "Right To Decide" is complete and the results as well as next weeks voting slip can be found at - http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm so please vote away and i hope yours is still in there! regards Dave From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Sun Nov 6 16:21:35 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 13:21:35 -0800 Subject: HW: Astoria, See tickets, etc... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Aw, man... The last two years, I've had no difficulties ordering tix online for the Astoria gig and having them held at the so-called (in America) 'will call' window for pick-up the night of the show. Now, however, the Astoria (Mean Fiddler) folks have given over everything to See Tickets, who are the complete bastards that not only charge you a bloody fiver per ticket for their 'service' but also apparently are unaware that any country exists outside of the United Kingdom. And then you have to have said tickets sent via post (for a price), and then they won't even let you order tickets for more than one show at a time and have them all sent in one envelope. Luckily, the Pacific Arts place in Birkenhead has a nice ticket server where I was easily able to order a ticket to be held at the venue, and then my cc details from CH were accepted without much problem. I imagine that the Astoria is big enough to not worry about a full sell-out, but then there were quite a few more people last year than the year before, and if that trend continues, it might be more yet. So...is anybody about to put in an order for some tickets, and can add me in? I'm sure there'll be a preshow meetup where such exchanges could be made. The Manchester gig uses Ticketline, which I also find to be a big pain in the ass, 'cause they give no venue pick-up option (of course, it could be the venue's choice) and make you have them posted, but if I decide I'm going to that gig, I'll probably have time to have them sent to an address in CH. But really, all these damn ripoff artists should really be a lot more user friendly, if they expect us to pay that much extra for planning in advance. Anyway, nothing there is very interesting...so a couple more short things... There's a brief review of TMTYL in the latest ed. (Nov.) of Classic Rock, the one where they give you the nice free DVD, which I haven't had a chance to look at yet. It's not a very favorable review (only 5 out of 10 rating), and they only mention Spirit of the Age and (a bit oddly, because I dislike the chorus) Greenback Massacre (they like that it has balls...fair enough), but at least it promotes its existence. In the Oct. issue, on the back page, there's a fun thing about weirdest pairings in Rock History. And Sam Fox with HW (2000) is put in at No. 10 (of 15), but then there's a photo of her with NikT in full alien costume, so it stands out. And in there as well is Lemmy being paired with some singers called the Norton (?) sisters or something, who I guess are a bit like the Cowsills or something. Nothing about Wendy O. Here in Germany, TMTYL is getting quite wide distribution...I can find it in just about any major retail store, including Media Markt, Saturn, and the like. Often just one copy, but at least some people might find it by random chance. Also, here in K?ln is a club called 'Lemmy' but it's not a heavy metal club or anything, so I don't know the reason for the name. I didn't actually see it, just an advert. The VDGG show in Leverkusen last night was really brilliant...great venue, great atmosphere, lots of fans from lots of places (it seems)...more than 1,000 there perhaps. The Rockpalast folks at WDR K?ln brought all their excellent film equipment (looked like about 8 cameras of all types) and so I guess we'll see this on TV and then on DVD in the not too distant future. BTW, they have now released both the 6 x half-hour performances of Birth Control, AD2, Jane, Epitaph, Guru Guru, and Karthago and (separately) also a long concert by Nektar from a year ago or so. I saw both programs on WDR and will eventually get both DVDs probably. Not everything is brilliant....AD2 could have been better that night and Guru Guru could have chosen some better tracks...and the Nektar thing has a bonus acoustic set from Roye where his voice has gone to hell and does some embarrassing things (Do You Believe in Magic is a nightmare), though the full band live set is OK (but for some difficult moments in Recycled). Well, OK, all for now...Grakkl P.S. Why the hell did it take me so long to start to like Peter Hammill's singing? Sometimes, my brain is very stubborn, and I can't learn to like some (unusual) singers for a long time, even though eventually I learn to love them. Fish was another one. (The guy from Clutch I don't like at all, though I think that may never change...same with Thom Yorke...ack!) P.P.S. There are three shows in a row at the Astoria/Mean Fiddler that I'd like to see...Cardiacs on the 11th, Fish on the 12th, and Litmus/AD2 (oh, and Nik & crew too) on the 13th. (or perhaps I got the order wrong.) If I can't go to the CH:Turkey qualifier, perhaps I'll even make a rash decision to fly in for this weekend...anybody else going to these? P.P.P.S. The Tea Party's last album (2004) just got released over here in Europe...anybody hear it yet? --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Nov 6 21:49:50 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 02:49:50 -0000 Subject: Astoria, See tickets, etc... Message-ID: If I'm not mistaken, the Mean Fiddler group has recently been bought out by Clear Channel and if so, THAT will be why you're having the problems as anything to do with Clear Channel usually sucks. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Henderson To: Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:21 PM Subject: HW: Astoria, See tickets, etc... > Aw, man... > > The last two years, I've had no difficulties ordering tix online for the Astoria gig and having them held at the so-called (in America) 'will call' window for pick-up the night of the show. Now, however, the Astoria (Mean Fiddler) folks have given over everything to See Tickets, who are the complete bastards that not only charge you a bloody fiver per ticket for their 'service' but also apparently are unaware that any country exists outside of the United Kingdom. And then you have to have said tickets sent via post (for a price), and then they won't even let you order tickets for more than one show at a time and have them all sent in one envelope. > > Luckily, the Pacific Arts place in Birkenhead has a nice ticket server where I was easily able to order a ticket to be held at the venue, and then my cc details from CH were accepted without much problem. I imagine that the Astoria is big enough to not worry about a full sell-out, but then there were quite a few more people last year than the year before, and if that trend continues, it might be more yet. So...is anybody about to put in an order for some tickets, and can add me in? I'm sure there'll be a preshow meetup where such exchanges could be made. > > The Manchester gig uses Ticketline, which I also find to be a big pain in the ass, 'cause they give no venue pick-up option (of course, it could be the venue's choice) and make you have them posted, but if I decide I'm going to that gig, I'll probably have time to have them sent to an address in CH. But really, all these damn ripoff artists should really be a lot more user friendly, if they expect us to pay that much extra for planning in advance. > > Anyway, nothing there is very interesting...so a couple more short things... > > There's a brief review of TMTYL in the latest ed. (Nov.) of Classic Rock, the one where they give you the nice free DVD, which I haven't had a chance to look at yet. It's not a very favorable review (only 5 out of 10 rating), and they only mention Spirit of the Age and (a bit oddly, because I dislike the chorus) Greenback Massacre (they like that it has balls...fair enough), but at least it promotes its existence. > > In the Oct. issue, on the back page, there's a fun thing about weirdest pairings in Rock History. And Sam Fox with HW (2000) is put in at No. 10 (of 15), but then there's a photo of her with NikT in full alien costume, so it stands out. And in there as well is Lemmy being paired with some singers called the Norton (?) sisters or something, who I guess are a bit like the Cowsills or something. Nothing about Wendy O. > > Here in Germany, TMTYL is getting quite wide distribution...I can find it in just about any major retail store, including Media Markt, Saturn, and the like. Often just one copy, but at least some people might find it by random chance. Also, here in K?ln is a club called 'Lemmy' but it's not a heavy metal club or anything, so I don't know the reason for the name. I didn't actually see it, just an advert. > > The VDGG show in Leverkusen last night was really brilliant...great venue, great atmosphere, lots of fans from lots of places (it seems)...more than 1,000 there perhaps. The Rockpalast folks at WDR K?ln brought all their excellent film equipment (looked like about 8 cameras of all types) and so I guess we'll see this on TV and then on DVD in the not too distant future. BTW, they have now released both the 6 x half-hour performances of Birth Control, AD2, Jane, Epitaph, Guru Guru, and Karthago and (separately) also a long concert by Nektar from a year ago or so. I saw both programs on WDR and will eventually get both DVDs probably. Not everything is brilliant....AD2 could have been better that night and Guru Guru could have chosen some better tracks...and the Nektar thing has a bonus acoustic set from Roye where his voice has gone to hell and does some embarrassing things (Do You Believe in Magic is a nightmare), though the full band live set is OK (but for some difficult! > moments > in Recycled). > > Well, OK, all for now...Grakkl > > P.S. Why the hell did it take me so long to start to like Peter Hammill's singing? Sometimes, my brain is very stubborn, and I can't learn to like some (unusual) singers for a long time, even though eventually I learn to love them. Fish was another one. (The guy from Clutch I don't like at all, though I think that may never change...same with Thom Yorke...ack!) > > P.P.S. There are three shows in a row at the Astoria/Mean Fiddler that I'd like to see...Cardiacs on the 11th, Fish on the 12th, and Litmus/AD2 (oh, and Nik & crew too) on the 13th. (or perhaps I got the order wrong.) If I can't go to the CH:Turkey qualifier, perhaps I'll even make a rash decision to fly in for this weekend...anybody else going to these? > > P.P.P.S. The Tea Party's last album (2004) just got released over here in Europe...anybody hear it yet? > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From rdc at RDCDESIGN.COM Mon Nov 7 09:08:52 2005 From: rdc at RDCDESIGN.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:08:52 -0000 Subject: Astoria, See tickets, etc... In-Reply-To: <20051106212135.1447.qmail@web50810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >P.P.S. There are three shows in a row at the Astoria/Mean >Fiddler that I'd like to see...Cardiacs on the 11th, Fish on >the 12th, and Litmus/AD2 (oh, and Nik & crew too) on the 13th. > (or perhaps I got the order wrong.) If I can't go to the >CH:Turkey qualifier, perhaps I'll even make a rash decision to >fly in for this weekend...anybody else going to these? Saw Cardiacs last night in Brighton, they're on top form. Richard. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Nov 8 19:36:35 2005 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:36:35 EST Subject: BOC: Blue Oyster Zombie Message-ID: Hey Y'all: Just got my copy of 'The Devil's Rejects' DVD today. B?C connection because a TV show, The Morris Green Show, in the movie shows the 'Agents of Fortune' LP cover, as the show discusses cults in relation to the murders committed by Otis, Baby and Captain Spaulding. One of the Bonus Features on the disc is the entire 'The Morris Green Show,' with all the dialogue that was talked over in the movie. An interesting thing is that in the Bonus, the LP cover is blurred out, when it was clearly shown in the Feature. Blue ?yster Cult is clearly mentioned, but they can't show the LP art? even though it's shown before??? Maybe they didn't want to pay for it a second time . . . Joe From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Nov 9 14:30:15 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:30:15 -0000 Subject: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth Message-ID: DOOM DOOM DOOM, and more DOOM The new album from Inner City Unit's Judge Trev and Space Ritual's Jaki Windmill. Featuring Majic Cat Radio's Kev Ellis on Hamonica. Limited Edition, signed, new release - "LIVE IN PORTSMOUTH" - ?7.99 + p&p Get it here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, Chat, Healers From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Thu Nov 10 07:51:40 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:51:40 -0000 Subject: Off: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth Message-ID: >DOOM DOOM DOOM, and more DOOM=20 >The new album from Inner City Unit's Judge Trev and Space Ritual's Jaki = >Windmill. Featuring Majic Cat Radio's Kev Ellis on Hamonica. >Limited Edition, >signed, new release - "LIVE IN PORTSMOUTH" - =A37.99 + p&p I take it that the "A" stands for Afganistan Afghani.. therefore 37.99 Afghanistan Afghani = 0.50928 British Pound Is that about right? - seems a bit steep ;-) best regards Maxine From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Nov 10 08:16:10 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:16:10 -0000 Subject: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxine Wesley" To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: Off: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth > >DOOM DOOM DOOM, and more DOOM=20 >>The new album from Inner City Unit's Judge Trev and Space Ritual's Jaki = >>Windmill. Featuring Majic Cat Radio's Kev Ellis on Hamonica. >>Limited Edition, >>signed, new release - "LIVE IN PORTSMOUTH" - =A37.99 + p&p > > I take it that the "A" stands for Afganistan Afghani.. therefore > > 37.99 Afghanistan Afghani = 0.50928 British Pound > > Is that about right? - seems a bit steep ;-) > best regards > Maxine > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Nov 10 08:20:52 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:20:52 -0000 Subject: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth Message-ID: Well if that's what it says, I suppose it's probably right. .Anyway...what are you doing in Afganistan? ..You come back right now Maxine... jt AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS TO MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR http://www.judgetrev.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxine Wesley" To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: Off: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth > >DOOM DOOM DOOM, and more DOOM=20 >>The new album from Inner City Unit's Judge Trev and Space Ritual's Jaki = >>Windmill. Featuring Majic Cat Radio's Kev Ellis on Hamonica. >>Limited Edition, >>signed, new release - "LIVE IN PORTSMOUTH" - =A37.99 + p&p > > I take it that the "A" stands for Afganistan Afghani.. therefore > > 37.99 Afghanistan Afghani = 0.50928 British Pound > > Is that about right? - seems a bit steep ;-) > best regards > Maxine > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Nov 10 08:55:16 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:55:16 +0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics (was: Colour Haze & Los Natas) In-Reply-To: <20051102123853.94139.qmail@web50815.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 04:38:53AM -0800, Keith Henderson typed out: > > P.S. Ozrics in Eindhoven, NL were alright, but now without John they > are hardly the same band anymore...I don't know why exactly Eddie is > forging on with it alone. I imagine the answer is that he needs the money, but, erk, hang on, what happened to John? I haven't heard anything about this. A quick look at tells me only slightly more. Man, I'm behind the times. I didn't realise Schoo, Seaweed and Zia had gone too. What the hell happened there? It really is just Ed at that rate. Though I suppose none of them were original members, it's that long-service clause innit, John and Seaweed are part of the band legend now. Damn. Oh well, I shall have to wait for them to come real close or else see some good reviews before I chance that, then. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Nov 10 09:13:24 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:13:24 +0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics In-Reply-To: <20051110135516.GM20828@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 10/11/2005 13:55, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 04:38:53AM -0800, Keith Henderson typed out: >> P.S. Ozrics in Eindhoven, NL were alright, but now without John they >> are hardly the same band anymore...I don't know why exactly Eddie is >> forging on with it alone. > > I imagine the answer is that he needs the money Or, at the very least, because he can. He could call it the Ed Wynne Band, one supposes, but it presumably makes more economic sense to call it the Ozrics! It's not as if it's the first time bands have carried on with one (or fewer) original members :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From dplaw at IC24.NET Thu Nov 10 10:18:41 2005 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:18:41 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] don't forget to vote in the "Right To Decide" Message-ID: hi all just a quick reminder that if you haven't done so already could you please cast your vote in the "Right To Decide" poll, of which round 2 closes on Sunday. for full details as well as this weeks voting slip please click on http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm it'll literally take a few seconds! it is imperative that you vote, this weeks results are a lot tighter both at the popular end and also with those likely to be the next for the chop. without giving too much away it looks like a three way fight as to which song gets eliminated this week but there are a couple of much bigger hitters that could easily get drawn into this dog fight if they don't get some more support, so if you haven't done so already, don't delay, cast your vote today! thanks as ever for your support regards Dave From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Nov 10 10:58:48 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:58:48 -0000 Subject: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth Message-ID: we're open to barter http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html trev ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev" To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth > Well if that's what it says, I suppose it's probably right. > .Anyway...what are you doing in Afganistan? > ..You come back right now Maxine... > > jt > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maxine Wesley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:51 PM > Subject: Off: Judge Trev Jaki Windmill - Live in Portsmouth > > >> >DOOM DOOM DOOM, and more DOOM=20 >>>The new album from Inner City Unit's Judge Trev and Space Ritual's Jaki = >>>Windmill. Featuring Majic Cat Radio's Kev Ellis on Hamonica. >>>Limited Edition, >>>signed, new release - "LIVE IN PORTSMOUTH" - =A37.99 + p&p >> >> I take it that the "A" stands for Afganistan Afghani.. therefore >> >> 37.99 Afghanistan Afghani = 0.50928 British Pound >> >> Is that about right? - seems a bit steep ;-) >> best regards >> Maxine >> > From deborah at VACANO.ORG Thu Nov 10 11:32:20 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:32:20 -0700 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Message-ID: What a bummer!!! Wasn't Hagos the light guy now he is on Bass..eh? I remember them in Boulder... Ahh..... those were the Dayz!! Cheers, Deborah -------Original Message------- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: 11/10/05 07:16:43 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics On 10/11/2005 13:55, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 04:38:53AM -0800, Keith Henderson typed out: >> P.S. Ozrics in Eindhoven, NL were alright, but now without John they >> are hardly the same band anymore...I don't know why exactly Eddie is >> forging on with it alone. > > I imagine the answer is that he needs the money Or, at the very least, because he can. He could call it the Ed Wynne Band, one supposes, but it presumably makes more economic sense to call it the Ozrics! It's not as if it's the first time bands have carried on with one (or fewer) original members :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Nov 10 18:39:00 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:39:00 -0500 Subject: HW: Online Interview Message-ID: + ++ + + ++ +STAR WARRIORS + + ++ Metalzone have a new interview online (MP3) Link from Mission Control Updates: http://www.hawkwind.com/up_.htm + ++ + + MESSAGE ENDS + ++ ++ + From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Nov 11 08:06:51 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:06:51 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Ebay Bandits! Message-ID: Items 4791783140 and 4791783140 Looks like the same guy. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Nov 11 09:07:51 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:07:51 EST Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Ebay Bandits! Message-ID: It's the same guy alright :-) Steve. In a message dated 11/11/2005 13:12:28 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: Items 4791783140 and 4791783140 Looks like the same guy. From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Fri Nov 11 09:59:05 2005 From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (Mark Storer) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:59:05 -0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Ebay Bandits! Message-ID: Looks like the same item!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Ebay Bandits! > Items 4791783140 and 4791783140 > > Looks like the same guy. > > __________ NOD32 1.1283 (20051110) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Nov 11 10:20:45 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:20:45 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Ebay Bandits! In-Reply-To: StevePXR5@AOL.COM's message of Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:07:51 EST Message-ID: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > It's the same guy alright :-) > > Steve. > > In a message dated 11/11/2005 13:12:28 GMT Standard Time, > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > Items 4791783140 and 4791783140 Pixels! OK that was 4791783140 and 4791801456 FoFP From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Nov 11 10:42:57 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:42:57 -0700 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! Message-ID: That's weird! It is the guys first time.. and he is from Ecuador .. and it says he only wants to ship in the US.. But, then it say's he will ship worldwide... It must be one of those Bad Alien Ebay Bandits!!!!! *Deborah* -------Original Message------- From: M Holmes Date: 11/11/05 08:23:21 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Galactic Patrol Alert : Ebay Bandits! StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > It's the same guy alright :-) > > Steve. > > In a message dated 11/11/2005 13:12:28 GMT Standard Time, > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > Items 4791783140 and 4791783140 Pixels! OK that was 4791783140 and 4791801456 FoFP From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Fri Nov 11 11:17:58 2005 From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:17:58 -0700 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Ebay Bandits! In-Reply-To: <200511111520.jABFKjUa023089@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Ugh! Beat the (Bad Alien Ecuadorian) Boots! Guido M Holmes wrote: >StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > > > >>It's the same guy alright :-) >> >>Steve. >> >>In a message dated 11/11/2005 13:12:28 GMT Standard Time, >>fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: >> >>Items 4791783140 and 4791783140 >> >> > >Pixels! > >OK that was 4791783140 and 4791801456 > >FoFP > > From berryj170 at MSN.COM Fri Nov 11 12:48:03 2005 From: berryj170 at MSN.COM (John Berry) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:48:03 -0500 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! Message-ID: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZdalton6080QQhtZ-1 From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Nov 11 13:46:43 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:46:43 -0700 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! Message-ID: Wow, For a bad alien just starting out on Ebay.. He sure has a lot of Boot, eh? Someone should really shut that guy down!! He is a total theif!! Look at that... He has 76 items.. *Deborah* -------Original Message------- From: John Berry Date: 11/11/05 10:51:20 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZdalton6080QQhtZ-1 From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Nov 11 13:47:21 2005 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:47:21 -0500 Subject: OFF: Take a butchers at this... Message-ID: Blimey! It's the new Cybermen design: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/11/cybermen_new_design/ Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Nov 11 14:46:25 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:46:25 -0700 Subject: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Message-ID: Okay, You will all prob. think I am nuts... But, I feel like this may be the only place to talk about a dream I had last night.. I promise I will make it short.. I was in a room filled with some kind of meteor material and I was with other space brothers and sisters.. Most of them I did not know... But, yes you were their Guido.. We were all asking eachother...What the hell...Why are we here? And, out of nowhere manifested this twirling alien ghost thing.... He was tall and thin, kind of translucent.. gold /silver in color.. The wind would swirl, and he would manifest himself in front of each of us and to each of us he would share some kind of important information.... When he manifested in front of me!! He said to me as he pointed his long skinny figer in my face.. "You need to learn about Aractillian Cosmology!!!" and then he swirlled away!! I ask you guys ... what the HELL does that mean? Thanks for letting me share!!! *Deborah* From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Fri Nov 11 14:49:54 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:49:54 -0500 Subject: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... In-Reply-To: <4374F511.000005.03480@TABASCO> Message-ID: Quoting Deborah Vacano : > "You need to learn about Aractillian Cosmology!!!" > and then he swirlled away!! > > I ask you guys ... what the HELL does that mean? That you and Guido are made for each other? -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Train set and match spied under the blind, shiny and contoured the railway winds. And I've heard the sound from my cousin's bed, the hiss of the train at the railway head. Always the summers are slipping away." Trains - PORCUPINE TREE From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Nov 11 15:05:07 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:05:07 -0700 Subject: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Message-ID: Yes, we are soul mates..;o) took 15 years to finally get it together.. I think I spelled it the race wrong.. found this on the internet.. Spelled.. AGHARIANS - (or Aghartians) http://www.burlingtonnews.net/aghartilegend.html Whoa!!!!!!!!!! God, I love porcupine tree!!! Thanks David! *Deborah* -------Original Message------- From: David Kuznick Date: 11/11/05 12:51:49 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Quoting Deborah Vacano : > "You need to learn about Aractillian Cosmology!!!" > and then he swirlled away!! > > I ask you guys ... what the HELL does that mean? That you and Guido are made for each other? -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "Train set and match spied under the blind, shiny and contoured the railway winds. And I've heard the sound from my cousin's bed, the hiss of the train at the railway head. Always the summers are slipping away." Trains - PORCUPINE TREE From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Nov 11 20:39:33 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:39:33 -0000 Subject: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Message-ID: Dear Deb, Sounds like it was Nik Turner... So have you looked up Aractillian Cosmology...and did you come up with anything? Sorry I'm a sarcastic bastard... jt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Vacano" To: Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Okay, You will all prob. think I am nuts... But, I feel like this may be the only place to talk about a dream I had last night.. I promise I will make it short.. I was in a room filled with some kind of meteor material and I was with other space brothers and sisters.. Most of them I did not know... But, yes you were their Guido.. We were all asking eachother...What the hell...Why are we here? And, out of nowhere manifested this twirling alien ghost thing.... He was tall and thin, kind of translucent.. gold /silver in color.. The wind would swirl, and he would manifest himself in front of each of us and to each of us he would share some kind of important information.... When he manifested in front of me!! He said to me as he pointed his long skinny figer in my face.. "You need to learn about Aractillian Cosmology!!!" and then he swirlled away!! I ask you guys ... what the HELL does that mean? Thanks for letting me share!!! *Deborah* From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Nov 11 21:15:26 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:15:26 -0700 Subject: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Message-ID: LOL.. prob. was Nik!!! Hey Nik.. whatcha want? God, who knows what that was about.. I'm depending on on you guys to tell me..lol!! *Deborah* -------Original Message------- From: trev Date: 11/11/05 18:45:18 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Dear Deb, Sounds like it was Nik Turner... So have you looked up Aractillian Cosmology...and did you come up with anything? Sorry I'm a sarcastic bastard... jt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Vacano" To: Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Okay, You will all prob. think I am nuts... But, I feel like this may be the only place to talk about a dream I had last night.. I promise I will make it short.. I was in a room filled with some kind of meteor material and I was with other space brothers and sisters.. Most of them I did not know... But, yes you were their Guido.. We were all asking eachother...What the hell...Why are we here? And, out of nowhere manifested this twirling alien ghost thing.... He was tall and thin, kind of translucent.. gold /silver in color.. The wind would swirl, and he would manifest himself in front of each of us and to each of us he would share some kind of important information.... When he manifested in front of me!! He said to me as he pointed his long skinny figer in my face.. "You need to learn about Aractillian Cosmology!!!" and then he swirlled away!! I ask you guys ... what the HELL does that mean? Thanks for letting me share!!! *Deborah* From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Sat Nov 12 00:09:06 2005 From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:09:06 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... In-Reply-To: <4375503E.000006.01192@TABASCO> Message-ID: Hmm. Didn't find anything on Google about "Aractillian Cosmology", but "Aractillian" gave me this: http://cloudnine.3.forumer.com/a/winner-of-the-best-magical-creature_post157.html Sounds like the critter isn't sophisticated enough to have a cosmology -- or maybe it's a cosmology that allows for the existence of Aractillians? Guido obCDplayer -- Brandenburg Concertos (performed by Il Giardino Armonico) Deborah Vacano wrote: >LOL.. prob. was Nik!!! >Hey Nik.. whatcha want? > >God, who knows what that was about.. >I'm depending on on you guys to tell me..lol!! > >*Deborah* > >-------Original Message------- > >From: trev >Date: 11/11/05 18:45:18 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... > >Dear Deb, > >Sounds like it was Nik Turner... >So have you looked up Aractillian Cosmology...and did you come up with >anything? Sorry I'm a sarcastic bastard... > >jt > > > From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Nov 12 06:13:27 2005 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:13:27 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... In-Reply-To: <437578F2.9000409@spiralrealm.com> Message-ID: aractillian cosmolgy=aliens spiders in your junk mail ;-) >From: Guido Vacano >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: OFF: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... >Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:09:06 -0700 > >Hmm. Didn't find anything on Google about "Aractillian Cosmology", but >"Aractillian" gave me this: > >http://cloudnine.3.forumer.com/a/winner-of-the-best-magical-creature_post157.html > >Sounds like the critter isn't sophisticated enough to have a cosmology >-- or maybe it's a cosmology that allows for the existence of Aractillians? > >Guido > >obCDplayer -- Brandenburg Concertos (performed by Il Giardino Armonico) > >Deborah Vacano wrote: > >>LOL.. prob. was Nik!!! >>Hey Nik.. whatcha want? >> >>God, who knows what that was about.. >>I'm depending on on you guys to tell me..lol!! >> >>*Deborah* >> >>-------Original Message------- >> >>From: trev >>Date: 11/11/05 18:45:18 >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Subject: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... >> >>Dear Deb, >> >>Sounds like it was Nik Turner... >>So have you looked up Aractillian Cosmology...and did you come up with >>anything? Sorry I'm a sarcastic bastard... >> >>jt >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters From deborah at VACANO.ORG Sat Nov 12 08:28:19 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:28:19 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Message-ID: Nope don't think my alien friend lives in a house called Huffelpuff.. *Deborah* -------Original Message------- From: Guido Vacano Date: 11/11/05 22:17:54 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: OFF: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... Hmm. Didn't find anything on Google about "Aractillian Cosmology", but "Aractillian" gave me this: http://cloudnine.3.forumer.com/a/winner-of-the-best-magical-creature_post157 html Sounds like the critter isn't sophisticated enough to have a cosmology -- or maybe it's a cosmology that allows for the existence of Aractillians? Guido obCDplayer -- Brandenburg Concertos (performed by Il Giardino Armonico) Deborah Vacano wrote: >LOL.. prob. was Nik!!! >Hey Nik.. whatcha want? > >God, who knows what that was about.. >I'm depending on on you guys to tell me..lol!! > >*Deborah* > >-------Original Message------- > >From: trev >Date: 11/11/05 18:45:18 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Speaking about aliens... I had a really weird dream... > >Dear Deb, > >Sounds like it was Nik Turner... >So have you looked up Aractillian Cosmology...and did you come up with >anything? Sorry I'm a sarcastic bastard... > >jt > > > From dplaw at IC24.NET Sat Nov 12 13:00:27 2005 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:00:27 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] voting for week 2 closes soon! Message-ID: hi all as you probably know week 2 of the "Right To Decide" vote closes tomorrow, 13th November at 12.00 mid-day UK time. if you haven't voted (which I'm sure you have) then don't delay and click on http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm and do your bit. please note that tomorrows result won't appear until early afternoon, probably about 15.00 (got to work ;-( ) but please begin voting for week 3 any time after mid day, if anybody votes for the losing song I'll contact them direct to advise them to re-cast their vote. thanks as ever Dave From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Nov 13 10:26:43 2005 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:26:43 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] time to get voting again! Message-ID: hi all as promised, a little late but there all the same, is week 3's voting slip in the "Right To Decide" to find out which songs got the chop this week and to vote in the currant poll, click on http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm thanks as ever and look forward to receiving your votes regards Dave From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Nov 13 20:25:38 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:25:38 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Radio Shows + Mail Order Goodies Message-ID: [NOTE: If you would like to be removed from this list, just reply to this message and we?ll take care of it. Otherwise, please forward this announcement to any friends or lists you think would be interested. Help us spread the word!!!] http://Aural-Innovations.com November 13, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS + MAIL ORDER GOODIES We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #137), Drool Trough (show #39), and Tapegerm Radio (show #5). See the playlists below. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html MAIL ORDER NEWS: Lots of new stuff these past couple weeks. The long awaited Secret Saucer CD is now available, a space rock all star lineup with members of Architectural Metaphor, Quarkspace, Sun Machine, Nick Riff and more. And while I was ordering from Dead Earnest Records I restocked some copies of the Space Mirrors album that sold so well last year. Incredible space rock and metal. We?ve got the first in the Mooch remaster series, featuring an unreleased 1996 album from Mooch. The brand new Many Bright Things album, featuring guest appearances from Nick Saloman of the Bevis Frond and punk king Jello Biafra in a very psychedelic setting. Porcupine Tree fans will love UK band Day Shift. I got a few titles from Record Heaven sub-label Transubstans, including Svarte Pan, Skyron Orchestra and Radiom?bel. And finally, I got some more copies of the Spacious Mind?s ?Pickin? Berries N Playin? Blues, which sold out so quickly a few weeks ago. For details and ordering information you can go directly to the online store at http://www.aural-innovations.com/store/. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #137) O-Head ? ?Oracle Eye? (from Steps Across the Cortex) Zone Six ? ?Collaptus? (from Live Wired 2004) Shiva's Quintessence - "But What Am I?" (from Cosmic Surfer) Skyron Orchestra ? ?Pax Aeterna? (from Skyron Orchestra) Mooch ? ?Flight of the Dub Voyager (excerpt)? (From Flight of the Dub Voyager) Djam Karet ? ?Recollection Harvest? (from Recollection Harvest) Floorian - "Vegetable Man" (from The Vegetable Man Project Vol. 3) Mondobliquo - "Vegetable Man" (from The Vegetable Man Project Vol. 3) Gi?bia - "Politurbo" (from Beyond the Stars) Many Bright Things ? ?I Am Not A Collector Potato? (from Many Bright Friends) Acid Mothers Temple & The Cosmic Inferno ? ?IAO Chant from the Cosmic Inferno? (excerpt) (from IAO Chant from the Cosmic Inferno) Drool Trough (show #39) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. The Other Planets ? ?Will You Adhere?? (from Discrete Manipulations) Jaugernaut ? ?Different World? (from Contra Mantra) Little Fyodor - "Ugly Girl" (from Slither) Climax Generator ? ?Industrial Jungle Machine? (from Open Loops Vol. 3) The Twin Atlas ? ?Nylon Test? (from Sun Township) Last Of The Juanitas ? ?Took the Short Train? (from In The Dirt) No-Fi Soul Rebellion ? ?Let?s Go to America? (from Lambs To The Slaughter) Null_Objct ? ?Dumb Shogun? (from The Blind Clockmaker) Dave Dill - ?Along the Way? (from See You in the Sunshine) Gratton ? ?Hands Below? (from Vopat) Owen ? ?Lynch Mob? (from Noodle) The Barbarellatones - "Wicked Wahine" (from Beyond the Valley of the Barbarellatones) Rebecca Shrimpton and Eric Hofbauer ? ?Be Anything? (from Madman?s Moon) Fear Of Flying ? ?Hypnotize? (from More Attempts at Perfection) Planet Janet ? ?When Al Met Rita? (from When Al Met Rita) Hush Collector ? ?Mountain Song? (from Flowby) Idioverse ? ?? (from Idioverse) Chill Faction ? ?42nd Street? (from Eggman on the Deuce and Other Stories) The Flatmates ? ?I Could Be in Heaven? (from Love and Death: the Flatmates 86-89) Doctor Dunbar's Medicine Band - "Tennis Shoes" (from Doctor Dunbar's Medicine Band) Tapegerm Radio (show #4) Tapegerm was started in May 2000 by a few folks who were making mixes of loops taken from old cassette tape albums, homemade tracks, and loops of our own for a new project being run at http://homemademusic.com. After a few months a few of us thought it would be cool to start collaborating together by dropping our loops into a pool shared by everyone in the group and see what kind of music came out. Basically we're a bunch of artists who have fun combining sounds in different ways and hearing how other artists combine those sounds in other ways. Visit our web site at http://tapegerm.com Arthur Loves Plastic - The Path" Magical Cigarette - Crazy Baby hebephrenic - misunderstanding.... Virus Factory - Speed of Sound Heuristics Inc. - We Are All Famous Shell - Slipped Disc yikaria - Germi Latini Cystem - The Heads Of Dogs Thelonious Octopus - Martian Radio Signal darph/nadeR - leaving the scene Anti - Gravity Workshop - The Workshop Fabio Keiner - germinating Golden Dead - Last Man On Earth CRT - crt-TG-gday Hal McGee - Cobwebs International Garbageman - 2 blip 17 blop David Fuglewicz - Contemplations Insecta Sonic - Count Von Drone Blind Mime - Disconnect Notice DJ Get Yo Fat On - Tombstone Piledriver Omnitechnomatrix - Disharmonik Howlz From The Dead D. Howse - Danny The Dog Buzzsaw & The Shavings - Buster Keaton Becomes Aware of the Duke of Caxias iN ThE HousE/kalmar - Flying Souls Mental Anguish - Passing Thru The Cosmic Space Fog http://Aural-Innovations.com From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Nov 13 20:27:49 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 20:27:49 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Radio Shows + Mail Order Goodies Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com November 13, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS + MAIL ORDER GOODIES We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #137), Drool Trough (show #39), and Tapegerm Radio (show #5). See the playlists below. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html MAIL ORDER NEWS: Lots of new stuff these past couple weeks. The long awaited Secret Saucer CD is now available, a space rock all star lineup with members of Architectural Metaphor, Quarkspace, Sun Machine, Nick Riff and more. And while I was ordering from Dead Earnest Records I restocked some copies of the Space Mirrors album that sold so well last year. Incredible space rock and metal. We?ve got the first in the Mooch remaster series, featuring an unreleased 1996 album from Mooch. The brand new Many Bright Things album, featuring guest appearances from Nick Saloman of the Bevis Frond and punk king Jello Biafra in a very psychedelic setting. Porcupine Tree fans will love UK band Day Shift. I got a few titles from Record Heaven sub-label Transubstans, including Svarte Pan, Skyron Orchestra and Radiom?bel. And finally, I got some more copies of the Spacious Mind?s ?Pickin? Berries N Playin? Blues, which sold out so quickly a few weeks ago. For details and ordering information you can go directly to the online store at http://www.aural-innovations.com/store/. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #137) O-Head ? ?Oracle Eye? (from Steps Across the Cortex) Zone Six ? ?Collaptus? (from Live Wired 2004) Shiva's Quintessence - "But What Am I?" (from Cosmic Surfer) Skyron Orchestra ? ?Pax Aeterna? (from Skyron Orchestra) Mooch ? ?Flight of the Dub Voyager (excerpt)? (From Flight of the Dub Voyager) Djam Karet ? ?Recollection Harvest? (from Recollection Harvest) Floorian - "Vegetable Man" (from The Vegetable Man Project Vol. 3) Mondobliquo - "Vegetable Man" (from The Vegetable Man Project Vol. 3) Gi?bia - "Politurbo" (from Beyond the Stars) Many Bright Things ? ?I Am Not A Collector Potato? (from Many Bright Friends) Acid Mothers Temple & The Cosmic Inferno ? ?IAO Chant from the Cosmic Inferno? (excerpt) (from IAO Chant from the Cosmic Inferno) Drool Trough (show #39) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. The Other Planets ? ?Will You Adhere?? (from Discrete Manipulations) Jaugernaut ? ?Different World? (from Contra Mantra) Little Fyodor - "Ugly Girl" (from Slither) Climax Generator ? ?Industrial Jungle Machine? (from Open Loops Vol. 3) The Twin Atlas ? ?Nylon Test? (from Sun Township) Last Of The Juanitas ? ?Took the Short Train? (from In The Dirt) No-Fi Soul Rebellion ? ?Let?s Go to America? (from Lambs To The Slaughter) Null_Objct ? ?Dumb Shogun? (from The Blind Clockmaker) Dave Dill - ?Along the Way? (from See You in the Sunshine) Gratton ? ?Hands Below? (from Vopat) Owen ? ?Lynch Mob? (from Noodle) The Barbarellatones - "Wicked Wahine" (from Beyond the Valley of the Barbarellatones) Rebecca Shrimpton and Eric Hofbauer ? ?Be Anything? (from Madman?s Moon) Fear Of Flying ? ?Hypnotize? (from More Attempts at Perfection) Planet Janet ? ?When Al Met Rita? (from When Al Met Rita) Hush Collector ? ?Mountain Song? (from Flowby) Idioverse ? ?? (from Idioverse) Chill Faction ? ?42nd Street? (from Eggman on the Deuce and Other Stories) The Flatmates ? ?I Could Be in Heaven? (from Love and Death: the Flatmates 86-89) Doctor Dunbar's Medicine Band - "Tennis Shoes" (from Doctor Dunbar's Medicine Band) Tapegerm Radio (show #4) Tapegerm was started in May 2000 by a few folks who were making mixes of loops taken from old cassette tape albums, homemade tracks, and loops of our own for a new project being run at http://homemademusic.com. After a few months a few of us thought it would be cool to start collaborating together by dropping our loops into a pool shared by everyone in the group and see what kind of music came out. Basically we're a bunch of artists who have fun combining sounds in different ways and hearing how other artists combine those sounds in other ways. Visit our web site at http://tapegerm.com Arthur Loves Plastic - The Path" Magical Cigarette - Crazy Baby hebephrenic - misunderstanding.... Virus Factory - Speed of Sound Heuristics Inc. - We Are All Famous Shell - Slipped Disc yikaria - Germi Latini Cystem - The Heads Of Dogs Thelonious Octopus - Martian Radio Signal darph/nadeR - leaving the scene Anti - Gravity Workshop - The Workshop Fabio Keiner - germinating Golden Dead - Last Man On Earth CRT - crt-TG-gday Hal McGee - Cobwebs International Garbageman - 2 blip 17 blop David Fuglewicz - Contemplations Insecta Sonic - Count Von Drone Blind Mime - Disconnect Notice DJ Get Yo Fat On - Tombstone Piledriver Omnitechnomatrix - Disharmonik Howlz From The Dead D. Howse - Danny The Dog Buzzsaw & The Shavings - Buster Keaton Becomes Aware of the Duke of Caxias iN ThE HousE/kalmar - Flying Souls Mental Anguish - Passing Thru The Cosmic Space Fog http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Nov 14 05:51:05 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:51:05 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: Deborah Vacano's message of Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:46:43 -0700 Message-ID: Deborah Vacano writes: > Wow, > He sure has a lot of Boot, eh? > Someone should really shut that guy down!! > He is a total theif! Yep, he made 66 and 72 Dollars on the two Hawkwind boots. That's amazing prices for what I assume are CD-R's. > Look at that.. > He has 76 items.. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Nov 14 10:35:51 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:35:51 GMT Subject: OFF: Take a butchers at this... In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > Blimey! It's the new Cybermen design: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/11/cybermen_new_design/ That's Andrew Android innit? FoFP From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Nov 14 10:44:13 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:44:13 -0600 Subject: OFF: Take a butchers at this... In-Reply-To: <200511141535.jAEFZpuG010366@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Re: OFF: Take a butchers at this... : :Paul Mather writes: : :> Blimey! It's the new Cybermen design: :> :> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/11/cybermen_new_design/ : :That's Andrew Android innit? /me groans. Mike, are you going to do the filk, then? Arin (who is holding opinion on the new cybermen until she sees them in action.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/ENSS University of Chicago/NSIT/ENSS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Mon Nov 14 14:30:30 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:30:30 -0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: <200511141051.jAEAp5n8007880@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike wrote: Yep, he made 66 and 72 Dollars on the two Hawkwind boots. That's amazing prices for what I assume are CD-R's. If my information is correct, he hasn't made that money. He might expect the money but the chances are that he won't get it. :-) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Nov 14 15:04:05 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:04:05 +0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <436B7032.2010106@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 02:29:06PM +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson typed out: > ;) I would think merely looking at Lemmy (or Ozzy for that matter) would > be enough to make plenty of folks swear off anything stronger than > camomile ;) Ozzy much more than Lemmy I think. Granted he may be a bitter man, but until he managed to get diabetes he was a picture of rock'n'roll survival. I reckon most people would look at lemmy's lifetsyle, career and his age, and reckon it was worth being built out of brick and famous for being ugly if that's what that a lifetime of amphetamine abuse get you. Ozzy on the other hand... But of course Ozzy's problem was or has been heroin, so it just goes to show that Lemmy's right :-) > ObTrack: "Dopamine", Iommi & Hughes. And I don't know Glenn Hughes's drug of choice, but he should definitely count as another warning judging by the pictures of him on Iommi's website... Yours, Jon ObCD: Queens of the Stone Age - _Songs for the Deaf_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Nov 14 19:17:10 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:17:10 +0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <20051114200405.GA14543@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On 14 Nov 2005, at 20:04, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > But of course Ozzy's problem was or has been heroin, so it > just > goes to show that Lemmy's right :-) And alcohol. Lots of it! And ... well, all right, Ozzy would take pretty much anything and everything ;) > And I don't know Glenn Hughes's drug of choice, but he should > definitely count as another warning judging by the pictures of him on > Iommi's website... Also lots of alcohol, if I remember aright! And, well, it was the 80s -- probably everything else nasty and hardcore, too ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Nov 15 07:39:53 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:39:53 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: mark von bargen's message of Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:30:30 -0000 Message-ID: mark von bargen writes: > Mike wrote: > Yep, he made 66 and 72 Dollars on the two Hawkwind boots. That's amazing > prices for what I assume are CD-R's. > If my information is correct, he hasn't made that money. He might expect the > money but the chances are that he won't get it. :-) Is this a state secret? Have Hawkwind dropped Spetsnaz Lawyers onto his website? Has someone spoofed gigantic bids in an attempt to frustrate his auctions? Enquiring Minds want to know.. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Nov 15 07:42:23 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:42:23 GMT Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:04:05 +0000 Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett writes: > But of course Ozzy's problem was or has been heroin Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due to medical valium. If it's not that, it looks more a result of alcohol misuse than drug misuse. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Nov 15 07:44:10 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:44:10 GMT Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Tue, 15 Nov 2005 00:17:10 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > > And I don't know Glenn Hughes's drug of choice, but he should > > definitely count as another warning judging by the pictures of him on > > Iommi's website... > Also lots of alcohol, if I remember aright! And, well, it was the > 80s -- probably everything else nasty and hardcore, too ;) I remember the Sweet's Brian Connolly being interviewed for Glam Top Ten or somesuch just a few weeks before he died. His condition was due to copious amounts of alcohol and it almost put me off my beer. Seems the rock'n'roll lifestyle isn't good for everyone... FoFP From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Tue Nov 15 08:53:04 2005 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:53:04 -0500 Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?UkU6IFJlOiBhbnRpZHJ1ZyBsZW1teQ==?= Message-ID: Actually, Ozzy has claimed in several interviews that his shakiness is due to a hereditary condition. Supposedly, his sisters have it, too. --nick >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >From: M Holmes >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Sent: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:42:23 > >Jonathan Jarrett writes: > >> But of course Ozzy's problem was or has >been heroin > >Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due to >medical valium. > >If it's not that, it looks more a result of alcohol >misuse than drug >misuse. > >FoFP From Tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Nov 15 09:35:00 2005 From: Tjackson at SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:35:00 -0500 Subject: antidrug lemmy Message-ID: >>> nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM 11/15/2005 8:53 AM >>> Actually, Ozzy has claimed in several interviews that his shakiness is due to a hereditary condition. Supposedly, his sisters have it, too. Didn't Oz almost buy it a few years back from a grand mal epilieptic episode? I thought that was the cause of his frailty--that and about a million drug experiences... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Nov 15 15:15:48 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:15:48 +0000 Subject: OFF: various vocals and lack of giggage (was HW: Astoria, See tickets, etc...) In-Reply-To: <20051106212135.1447.qmail@web50810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 01:21:35PM -0800, Keith Henderson typed out: > P.S. Why the hell did it take me so long to start to like Peter > Hammill's singing? Sometimes, my brain is very stubborn, and I can't > learn to like some (unusual) singers for a long time, even though > eventually I learn to love them. Fish was another one. (The guy from > Clutch I don't like at all, though I think that may never change...same > with Thom Yorke...ack!) I don't *like* Thom Yorke's voice but I like the way he uses it. Same with Ozzy, for example. I think Neil Fallon from Clutch's voice is fantastic, and that he has many of it to boot, but then they are one of my favourite bands in the world and the words he delivers with it are such as could only be delivered by him. He is much rawer live but that's only to be expected, of course, he's shouting more and he's not double-tracked and so on. Anyway. I think it's mainly his articulacy that makes him unusual though. > P.P.S. There are three shows in a row at the Astoria/Mean Fiddler that > I'd like to see...Cardiacs on the 11th, Fish on the 12th, and Litmus/AD2 > (oh, and Nik & crew too) on the 13th. (or perhaps I got the order > wrong.) If I can't go to the CH:Turkey qualifier, perhaps I'll even > make a rash decision to fly in for this weekend...anybody else going to > these? I had intended to go to the Litmus/SR/ADII one, but three cheques cleared and another one failed to turn up that Friday and so it just stopped being possible. Pay arrived on *Monday* of course, but I just couldn't have paid for a ticket either to get in or to get there. Did anyone go and if so how was it? Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Church of Hawkwind_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Tue Nov 15 15:34:50 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:34:50 -0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: <200511151239.jAFCdr99021433@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 15 November 2005 12:40 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! mike wrote: > Yep, he made 66 and 72 Dollars on the two Hawkwind boots. That's amazing > prices for what I assume are CD-R's. > If my information is correct, he hasn't made that money. He might expect the > money but the chances are that he won't get it. :-) Is this a state secret? Have Hawkwind dropped Spetsnaz Lawyers onto his website? Has someone spoofed gigantic bids in an attempt to frustrate his auctions? Enquiring Minds want to know.. FoFP Contact was made with seller which was apparently ignored. Spoke to one of the winning bidders who was aware of the context. Somebody persuaded him to withdraw both of these items. If you look at his feedback page on Ebay now it is well stocked with item withdrawn messages - most of them HW boots ;) From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Tue Nov 15 15:36:00 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:36:00 -0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <200511151353.jAFDr45D032967@mmm1503.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: Being a pisshead runs in the family, no surprise -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Sent: 15 November 2005 13:53 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: RE: Re: antidrug lemmy Actually, Ozzy has claimed in several interviews that his shakiness is due to a hereditary condition. Supposedly, his sisters have it, too. --nick >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >From: M Holmes >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Sent: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:42:23 > >Jonathan Jarrett writes: > >> But of course Ozzy's problem was or has >been heroin > >Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due to >medical valium. > >If it's not that, it looks more a result of alcohol >misuse than drug >misuse. > >FoFP From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Tue Nov 15 16:00:08 2005 From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:00:08 -0700 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <004301c5ea24$3125cbd0$6829d255@HouseComputer> Message-ID: Is "pisshead" a Britishism for alcoholic, or is it an even more derogatory term? Guido mark von bargen wrote: >Being a pisshead runs in the family, no surprise > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >Behalf Of nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM >Sent: 15 November 2005 13:53 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: RE: Re: antidrug lemmy > >Actually, Ozzy has claimed in several interviews that his shakiness is due >to a hereditary condition. Supposedly, his sisters have it, too. > >--nick > > > >>----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >>From: M Holmes >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Sent: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:42:23 >> >>Jonathan Jarrett writes: >> >> >> >>> But of course Ozzy's problem was or has >>> >>> >>been heroin >> >>Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due to >>medical valium. >> >>If it's not that, it looks more a result of alcohol >>misuse than drug >>misuse. >> >>FoFP >> >> From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Tue Nov 15 16:49:13 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:49:13 -0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <437A4C58.9060407@spiralrealm.com> Message-ID: Try 'Liverpool Lingo' as a description of the word use. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Guido Vacano Sent: 15 November 2005 21:00 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy Is "pisshead" a Britishism for alcoholic, or is it an even more derogatory term? Guido mark von bargen wrote: >Being a pisshead runs in the family, no surprise > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >Behalf Of nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM >Sent: 15 November 2005 13:53 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: RE: Re: antidrug lemmy > >Actually, Ozzy has claimed in several interviews that his shakiness is due >to a hereditary condition. Supposedly, his sisters have it, too. > >--nick > > > >>----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >>From: M Holmes >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Sent: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:42:23 >> >>Jonathan Jarrett writes: >> >> >> >>> But of course Ozzy's problem was or has >>> >>> >>been heroin >> >>Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due to >>medical valium. >> >>If it's not that, it looks more a result of alcohol >>misuse than drug >>misuse. >> >>FoFP >> >> From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Tue Nov 15 17:40:31 2005 From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:40:31 -0700 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <004401c5ea2e$6c19ea00$6829d255@HouseComputer> Message-ID: Okay. Is "pisshead" "Liverpool Lingo" for alcoholic, or is it an even more derogatory term? Guido mark von bargen wrote: >Try 'Liverpool Lingo' as a description of the word use. > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >Behalf Of Guido Vacano >Sent: 15 November 2005 21:00 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy > >Is "pisshead" a Britishism for alcoholic, or is it an even more >derogatory term? > >Guido > >mark von bargen wrote: > > > >>Being a pisshead runs in the family, no surprise >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >>Behalf Of nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM >>Sent: 15 November 2005 13:53 >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Subject: RE: Re: antidrug lemmy >> >>Actually, Ozzy has claimed in several interviews that his shakiness is due >>to a hereditary condition. Supposedly, his sisters have it, too. >> >>--nick >> >> >> >> >> >>>----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >>>From: M Holmes >>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>Sent: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:42:23 >>> >>>Jonathan Jarrett writes: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> But of course Ozzy's problem was or has >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>been heroin >>> >>>Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due to >>>medical valium. >>> >>>If it's not that, it looks more a result of alcohol >>>misuse than drug >>>misuse. >>> >>>FoFP >>> >>> >>> >>> From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Tue Nov 15 17:49:31 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:49:31 -0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <437A63DF.2010206@spiralrealm.com> Message-ID: A demeaning term for somebody who is always drinks until they are drunk; not necessarily an alcoholic. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Guido Vacano Sent: 15 November 2005 22:41 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy Okay. Is "pisshead" "Liverpool Lingo" for alcoholic, or is it an even more derogatory term? Guido mark von bargen wrote: >Try 'Liverpool Lingo' as a description of the word use. > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >Behalf Of Guido Vacano >Sent: 15 November 2005 21:00 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy > >Is "pisshead" a Britishism for alcoholic, or is it an even more >derogatory term? > >Guido > >mark von bargen wrote: > > > >>Being a pisshead runs in the family, no surprise >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >>Behalf Of nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM >>Sent: 15 November 2005 13:53 >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Subject: RE: Re: antidrug lemmy >> >>Actually, Ozzy has claimed in several interviews that his shakiness is due >>to a hereditary condition. Supposedly, his sisters have it, too. >> >>--nick >> >> >> >> >> >>>----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >>>From: M Holmes >>>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>>Sent: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 12:42:23 >>> >>>Jonathan Jarrett writes: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> But of course Ozzy's problem was or has >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>been heroin >>> >>>Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due to >>>medical valium. >>> >>>If it's not that, it looks more a result of alcohol >>>misuse than drug >>>misuse. >>> >>>FoFP >>> >>> >>> >>> From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Tue Nov 15 18:10:42 2005 From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:10:42 -0700 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <004b01c5ea36$d891e220$6829d255@HouseComputer> Message-ID: Okay, thanks. I wonder how much art and music (and possibly other forms of expression) would not exist if there were no "pissheads"/alcoholics, or drug users/abusers? There certainly wouldn't be any psychedelic art or music. No Salvador Dali. No Samuel Taylor Coleridge, I suspect. Edgar Allan Poe? I wonder what Frank Zappa's work would have been like if he didn't smoke like a chimney? IMHO, "pisshead" is an overly judgemental term of limited utility. Walk a mile in Ozzy's shoes -- maybe you'd be a pisshead too? Guido mark von bargen wrote: >A demeaning term for somebody who is always drinks until they are drunk; not >necessarily an alcoholic. > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >Behalf Of Guido Vacano >Sent: 15 November 2005 22:41 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy > >Okay. Is "pisshead" "Liverpool Lingo" for alcoholic, or is it an even >more derogatory term? > >Guido > >mark von bargen wrote: > > > >>Try 'Liverpool Lingo' as a description of the word use. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >>Behalf Of Guido Vacano >>Sent: 15 November 2005 21:00 >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy >> >>Is "pisshead" a Britishism for alcoholic, or is it an even more >>derogatory term? >> >>Guido >> >>mark von bargen wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Being a pisshead runs in the family, no surprise >>> >>> From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Tue Nov 15 18:29:20 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:29:20 -0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <437A6AF2.4030801@spiralrealm.com> Message-ID: I was once a pisshead. Eight days a week, as the beatles used to sing. :) I think you also need to understand the particular Liverpudlian twist on the English language. It goes beyond cockney rhyming slang by a country mile. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Guido Vacano Sent: 15 November 2005 23:11 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy Okay, thanks. I wonder how much art and music (and possibly other forms of expression) would not exist if there were no "pissheads"/alcoholics, or drug users/abusers? There certainly wouldn't be any psychedelic art or music. No Salvador Dali. No Samuel Taylor Coleridge, I suspect. Edgar Allan Poe? I wonder what Frank Zappa's work would have been like if he didn't smoke like a chimney? IMHO, "pisshead" is an overly judgemental term of limited utility. Walk a mile in Ozzy's shoes -- maybe you'd be a pisshead too? Guido mark von bargen wrote: >A demeaning term for somebody who is always drinks until they are drunk; not >necessarily an alcoholic. > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >Behalf Of Guido Vacano >Sent: 15 November 2005 22:41 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy > >Okay. Is "pisshead" "Liverpool Lingo" for alcoholic, or is it an even >more derogatory term? > >Guido > >mark von bargen wrote: > > > >>Try 'Liverpool Lingo' as a description of the word use. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On >>Behalf Of Guido Vacano >>Sent: 15 November 2005 21:00 >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Subject: Re: antidrug lemmy >> >>Is "pisshead" a Britishism for alcoholic, or is it an even more >>derogatory term? >> >>Guido >> >>mark von bargen wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Being a pisshead runs in the family, no surprise >>> >>> From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Nov 15 18:35:29 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:35:29 -0500 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! Message-ID: Well,let's play devil's advocate. Perhaps if the band would do more merchandising of their own music, then there wouldn't be a call for bootleg sales on e-bay. The band demanded a moratorium on tape trading of live shows, and has done nothing to replace it. Here in the States, we don't have the pleasure of seeing the Hawks multiple (or 1) time(s) a year. Why not sell cd-rs of their own shows through their own website; perhaps even a few free live song mp3 downloads (even Metallica has that). People obviously want more Hawkwind product than is 'legally' available; there must be some way to satisfy both the band (more $$ & fans) & the fans (more music); and at the same time, it will narrow the marketplace for bootleg product - you know you'll never stop the bootleggers themselves, it's like the 'war on drugs' -as long as there is a need, someone (legally or not) will find a way to meet that need. What say guys, give us a break! tim 8>)... mark von bargen wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: 15 November 2005 12:40 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! > > > > mike wrote: > > > > > Yep, he made 66 and 72 Dollars on the two Hawkwind boots. That's amazing > > > prices for what I assume are CD-R's. > > > > > If my information is correct, he hasn't made that money. He might expect > the > > > money but the chances are that he won't get it. :-) > > > > Is this a state secret? Have Hawkwind dropped Spetsnaz Lawyers onto his > > website? Has someone spoofed gigantic bids in an attempt to frustrate > > his auctions? > > > > Enquiring Minds want to know.. > > > > FoFP > > > > > > Contact was made with seller which was apparently ignored. Spoke to one of > the winning bidders who was aware of the context. Somebody persuaded him to > withdraw both of these items. If you look at his > 4788606407&frm=284> feedback page on Ebay now it is well stocked with item > withdrawn messages - most of them HW boots ;) From a.f.wilson at GMAIL.COM Tue Nov 15 19:00:46 2005 From: a.f.wilson at GMAIL.COM (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:00:46 -0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <437A6AF2.4030801@spiralrealm.com> Message-ID: > > IMHO, "pisshead" is an overly judgemental term of limited utility. Walk > a mile in Ozzy's shoes -- maybe you'd be a pisshead too? > Would we have to wear his man-nappies too? Uegh. From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Nov 15 19:21:54 2005 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:21:54 -0500 Subject: antidrug lemmy Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:49:13 -0000, mark von bargen wrote: >Try 'Liverpool Lingo' as a description of the word use. Wot? Since when was "pisshead" "Liverpool Lingo"? I wouldn't argue that Liverpool does a particularly good line in slang, but surely "pisshead"- a term used all over the UK, and all over Australia and NZ too- isn't an example, seeing as how it's a) used everywhere and b) obvious. Nick From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Tue Nov 15 19:53:30 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 00:53:30 -0000 Subject: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nick Wrote: >Try 'Liverpool Lingo' as a description of the word use. Wot? Since when was "pisshead" "Liverpool Lingo"? I wouldn't argue that Liverpool does a particularly good line in slang, but surely "pisshead"- a term used all over the UK, and all over Australia and NZ too- isn't an example, seeing as how it's a) used everywhere and b) obvious. Liverpool Lingo would only be an example of the use of such terminology. Know what I mean; it's sorted kidda and all that. The point being that the term is not exactly an Oxford English dictionary defined phrase but it would be used more readily than other terminology such as drunkard. Mark From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Nov 15 20:11:15 2005 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:11:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: various vocals and lack of giggage (was HW: Astoria, See tickets, etc...) Message-ID: >On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 01:21:35PM -0800, Keith Henderson typed out: >> P.P.S. There are three shows in a row at the Astoria/Mean Fiddler that >> I'd like to see...Cardiacs on the 11th, Fish on the 12th, and Litmus/AD2 >> (oh, and Nik & crew too) on the 13th. (or perhaps I got the order >> wrong.) If I can't go to the CH:Turkey qualifier, perhaps I'll even >> make a rash decision to fly in for this weekend...anybody else going to >> these? After the event, but just to note that Cardiacs were absolutely superb on Friday, probably the best I've ever seen them, which is saying something. Amazingly good sound for the Astoria (unlike their gig there last year). And the gig was being filmed for a DVD release- should be a belter. Anyone else go? Nick From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Nov 16 07:34:10 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:34:10 -0500 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! Message-ID: While the lack of such official output does not justify bootlegging, it does explain why bootleggers are willing to bootleg Hawkwind recordings (people will hand over money for them!). There would appear to be 2 fairly obvious responses: 1. Allow recording and trading again, thus reducing the demand; 2. As Tim says, issue official live recordings as so many other bands do; this will both reduce demand and provide income. However, I seem to remember going down that road in the past:(. Colin On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:35:29 -0500, Tim wrote: >Well,let's play devil's advocate. Perhaps if the band would do more merchandising of their own music, then there wouldn't be a call for bootleg sales on e-bay. The band demanded a moratorium on tape trading of live shows, and has done nothing to replace it. Here in the States, we don't have the pleasure of seeing the Hawks multiple (or 1) time(s) a year. Why not sell cd-rs of their own shows through their own website; perhaps even a few free live song mp3 downloads (even Metallica has that). People obviously want more Hawkwind product than is 'legally' available; there must be some way to satisfy both the band (more $$ & fans) & the fans (more music); and at the same time, it will narrow the marketplace for bootleg product - you know you'll never stop the bootleggers themselves, it's like the 'war on drugs' -as long as there is a need, someone (legally or not) will find a way to meet that need. What say guys, give us a break! >tim 8>)... >mark von bargen wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC- L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > > Behalf Of M Holmes > > Sent: 15 November 2005 12:40 > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! > > > > > > > > mike wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yep, he made 66 and 72 Dollars on the two Hawkwind boots. That's amazing > > > > > prices for what I assume are CD-R's. > > > > > > > > > If my information is correct, he hasn't made that money. He might expect > > the > > > > > money but the chances are that he won't get it. :-) > > > > > > > > Is this a state secret? Have Hawkwind dropped Spetsnaz Lawyers onto his > > > > website? Has someone spoofed gigantic bids in an attempt to frustrate > > > > his auctions? > > > > > > > > Enquiring Minds want to know.. > > > > > > > > FoFP > > > > > > > > > > > > Contact was made with seller which was apparently ignored. Spoke to one of > > the winning bidders who was aware of the context. Somebody persuaded him to > > withdraw both of these items. If you look at his > > > 4788606407&frm=284> feedback page on Ebay now it is well stocked with item > > withdrawn messages - most of them HW boots ;) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Nov 16 08:08:04 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:08:04 +0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This problem has been already solved many times by many bands. Is there any doubt that the most effective solution in terms of protecting a band's investment and satisfying their audience is to A) permit, nay, encourage fan recording and trading while simultaneously B) selling recent and archival live recordings, perhaps as limited but easily available CD releases, or as MP3s and FLACs purchasable and downloadable via the Web? This is a tried and proven strategy currently in use by a wide variety of bands whose fans have a hunger for material that outstrips what can be plausibly marketed through ye olde high-street shops. Experience has shown that even if you let people record and trade freely, many punters are more than happy to cough up a few quid for a souvenier copy of the show they just went to. It's more convenient for most than running around the trading circuit or searching for bittorrents, and they can trust they'll be getting a good quality recording direct from the band. They'll go download their show a few weeks later on the web, though increasingly you can just pick up your pre-ordered disk on the way out of the venue. Siphoning off a reasonably decent mix from the soundboard is a small investment of effort in comparison. The technology required to implement these sorts of things is hardly rocket science anymore. One needs only disk space, bandwidth, and a little time. The band wins, the fans win, and there's not much left for genuine bootleggers. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Nov 16 09:39:03 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:39:03 +0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: <437B2F34.3020300@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 16/11/2005 13:08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > The technology required to implement these sorts > of things is hardly rocket science anymore. One needs only disk space, > bandwidth, and a little time. The band wins, the fans win, and there's > not much left for genuine bootleggers. I should add the that easy solution for any given band is probably to hook up with the likes of (which is itself powered from ). They handle pay-to-download sales of live recordings for a whole pile of bands (including Metallica) and the now-annual Bonnaroo festival. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Nov 16 12:10:37 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:10:37 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: mark von bargen's message of Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:34:50 -0000 Message-ID: mark von bargen writes: > Contact was made with seller which was apparently ignored. Spoke to one of > the winning bidders who was aware of the context. Somebody persuaded him to > withdraw both of these items. If you look at his > 4788606407&frm=284> feedback page on Ebay now it is well stocked with item > withdrawn messages - most of them HW boots ;) Eh? That's not what I see there. It was Dalton6080 who was selling and he now has no feedback at all... FoFP From paulashby at NTLWORLD.COM Wed Nov 16 13:54:29 2005 From: paulashby at NTLWORLD.COM (Paul Ashby) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:54:29 -0000 Subject: Pissheads and Cardiacs. Message-ID: The Cassell Dictionary of Slang ( a superb book, up there with the Viz Profanisaurus) defines Piss-head as: ' an obnoxious person' or a 'heavy drinker'. Both definitions being 20th century but unattributed geographically. Ah....Cardiacs...what a superb gig, I'd definately go along with Nicks comment. The set heavily favoured their 80's output, the atmosphere redolent of many great nights spent at the Marquee, with much leaping around, arm waving and gurning by the assembled throng. Really looking forward to the DVD...Just wish Sarah had made an appearance... -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/172 - Release Date: 15/11/2005 From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Nov 16 14:19:08 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:19:08 -0000 Subject: WJLEHFU8YGVIJ Message-ID: AND IT IS WRITTEN THAT WHEN THE CHAINS OF DEATHGAGE ENCIRCLE THE FREE PEOPLES AND WHEN THE MONEYLENDERS WHO WERE THROWN OUT ARE LET IN AND WHEN THE TAINTED CHILDREN OF THE BLUE-RINSE DOMINATE THE EARTH WITH THEIR IGNORANCE AND REPETITIONS AND WHEN THOSE WHO HAVE NOT DESPAIR UNTO DEATH AND WHEN MAN SAYS HIS NEIGHBOUR IS NOT HIS NEIGHBOUR AND WHEN THE NAMES AND THE NAMES AND THE SACRED NAMES ARE DECIPHERED BY MACHNES AND WHEN THE ICE IS READY FOR THE GREAT MELTING AND WHEN THE CALENDERS END - THEN WILL COMMENCE THE AGE OF DOOM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/judge-jaki2.html From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Nov 16 15:05:15 2005 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:05:15 -0000 Subject: WJLEHFU8YGVIJ - frumious Bandersnatch Message-ID: Beware the Jabberwock my son! ----- Original Message ----- From: "trev" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: WJLEHFU8YGVIJ AND IT IS WRITTEN THAT WHEN THE CHAINS OF DEATHGAGE ENCIRCLE THE FREE PEOPLES AND WHEN THE MONEYLENDERS WHO WERE THROWN OUT ARE LET IN AND WHEN THE TAINTED CHILDREN OF THE BLUE-RINSE DOMINATE THE EARTH WITH THEIR IGNORANCE AND REPETITIONS AND WHEN THOSE WHO HAVE NOT DESPAIR UNTO DEATH AND WHEN MAN SAYS HIS NEIGHBOUR IS NOT HIS NEIGHBOUR AND WHEN THE NAMES AND THE NAMES AND THE SACRED NAMES ARE DECIPHERED BY MACHNES AND WHEN THE ICE IS READY FOR THE GREAT MELTING AND WHEN THE CALENDERS END - THEN WILL COMMENCE THE AGE OF DOOM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/judge-jaki2.html From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Wed Nov 16 17:24:12 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:24:12 -0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: <200511161710.jAGHAb4M020466@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: If you go back through the email threads there were 2 sellers mentioned, this guy was one of them Dalton6080 was the other. Dalton6080 suddenly has nothing to sell too. Mark -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 16 November 2005 17:11 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! mark von bargen writes: > Contact was made with seller which was apparently ignored. Spoke to one of > the winning bidders who was aware of the context. Somebody persuaded him to > withdraw both of these items. If you look at his > 4788606407&frm=284> feedback page on Ebay now it is well stocked with item > withdrawn messages - most of them HW boots ;) Eh? That's not what I see there. It was Dalton6080 who was selling and he now has no feedback at all... FoFP From dplaw at IC24.NET Thu Nov 17 05:16:53 2005 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:16:53 -0500 Subject: test Message-ID: test From steve.bishop at DB.COM Thu Nov 17 05:24:46 2005 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:24:46 +0000 Subject: test - didn't work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dave Law Sent by: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET 17/11/2005 10:16 cc Subject Please respond to test BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List test -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Thu Nov 17 05:42:15 2005 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:42:15 EST Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! Message-ID: Looks like someone sent full details to e-bay & got them sorted..........who could that have been? From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Nov 17 06:42:50 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:42:50 -0500 Subject: second test (it's not cricket + don't bother reading!) Message-ID: sorry about this but having some problems with my suubscription as ic24 who managed the e-mail address that i used for this have in their infinate wisdom suspended my account, so this is just a test message, thanks From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Nov 17 07:39:02 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:39:02 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Still time to vote in week 3 of Right To Decide Message-ID: hi all just a quick reminder that there's just under 72 hours left for you to cast your vote in this weeks "Right To Decide" as ever the only page you need is - http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm and it'll take less time than it took you to read this message. voting has been frantic this week and should exceed both the previous weeks votes in numbers by the time the poll closes on Sunday, thank you to all who've got involved. finally, it's once again very tight as to which song goes this week with 3 votes separating the bottom 3 songs and there is IMO a big shock on the cards if things stay as they are! regards Dave From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Nov 17 12:11:50 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:11:50 +0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: <437B2F34.3020300@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 16/11/2005 13:08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Experience has shown that even if you let people record and trade > freely, many punters are more than happy to cough up a few quid for a > souvenier copy of the show they just went to. [...] > They'll go download their show a few > weeks later on the web, though increasingly you can just pick up your > pre-ordered disk on the way out of the venue. The good Mr. Scott Heller has observed to me that are now handling exactly this sort of "post-show CD souvenier" thing, claiming to deliver finished CDs to fans in as little as six minutes after a show. (They've just picked up the business for Black Label Society.) I think InstantLive send their own engineers to shows, so I don't know if they handle stuff outside North America, though. I don't know how nugs.net handle the recording engineering side either, though the official recordings of the Gov't Mule European tour was certainly being sold through muletracks.com, which is handled by nugs.net (I bought the London gig myself). So it must be possible for them to deal with stuff from outside North America (like, for example, Hawkwind :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Nov 17 12:15:41 2005 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:15:41 +0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert : Bad Alien Ebay Bandit! In-Reply-To: <21b.303a20e.30adb887@aol.com> Message-ID: The Law? Mmm, I wonder.... Martin Hutchby wrote: >Looks like someone sent full details to e-bay & got them sorted..........who >could that have been? > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 16/11/2005 From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Fri Nov 18 04:54:48 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 04:54:48 -0500 Subject: Space Rock Stage at Roadburn Festival Message-ID: [posted on behalf of Walter from Roadburn] UPDATE: 11TH ROADBURN FESTIVAL, APRIL 22, 2006, TILBURG, HOLLAND Ozric Tentacles are confirmed for the 11th Roadburn Festival, Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 013 Tilburg, Holland. The Ozrics will be playing the spacerock stage w/ Spacehead, Bevis Frond & headliners Hawkwind. Pre sales will start December 3rd through Roadburn: www.roadburn.com In other news, the line up of the 11th Roadburn Festival is shaping up nicely - we also have confirmed: Orange Goblin - headling the festival's The Green Room, Brant Bjork & The Bros, Colour Haze, The Heads, Ufomammut, Place of Skulls & Gorilla. There will be 4 more bands to be announced. Astrosoniq will be headlining the pre party on firday, april 21st w/ Spaceship Landing, Toner Low & End of Level Boss. Keep checking www.roadburn.com or www.roadburn.com/bulletin for updates. From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Nov 18 05:55:34 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:55:34 -0000 Subject: Off: antidrug lemmi Message-ID: Hi, > > > And I don't know Glenn Hughes's drug of choice, but he > > > should > > > definitely count as another warning judging by the pictures of him > > > on Iommi's website... I couldn't find the website but I'm guessing he's no Orlando Bloom.... so i'm thinking along the lines of meth amphetamine... based on a rather shock news report I saw the other evening (ITV) (photies showing effect of 3 years usage - urrgh!) > > Also lots of alcohol, if I remember aright! > I remember the Sweet's Brian Connolly being interviewed for Glam >Top Ten or somesuch just a few weeks before he died. His condition >was due to copious amounts of alcohol and it almost put me off my beer. Personally I find people look a lot better when I'm pissed? > Seems the rock'n'roll lifestyle isn't good for everyone... It's highly suitable for pissheads tho'.... just go to the Derby Rock'n'blues for evidence. cheers Maxine From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Nov 18 06:20:25 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:20:25 -0000 Subject: Off - antidrug lemmi Message-ID: Hi, Following suggestions that Rock'n'roll is a dangerous lifestyle i trotted off on the net and found this website (also lists Bob Calvert) http://hometown.aol.co.uk/glamrockbear/page22.html totting them up we get the following top ten of Rock'n'roll deaths.. 1. Heart Attacks (11) 2. Accidents:Car/Plan/Helicopter/fire (7) 3. Cancer (7) 4. Drug related (5) 5/6/7. Pneumonia (3) Stroke/Cerebral haemorrage (3) and AIDs (3) 8. Drink related Kidney failure (2) 9. Suicide.(1) 10. Choking to death on a cherry stone I know it's not the total statistical base but possibly a representative sample cheers! Maxine From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Nov 18 12:41:19 2005 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:41:19 +0000 Subject: Off - antidrug lemmi In-Reply-To: <437E2A24.15588.5B8370C@localhost> Message-ID: good find - I'd expect to see more suicide. In fact ... have a squizz at this http://www.av1611.org/rockdead.html Also lists Calvert, but is out of date. Also mentions tons of people I've never heard of. First person to mention bizarre gardening accidents gets a prize....d'oh, just did it. Maxine Wesley wrote: >Hi, > >Following suggestions that Rock'n'roll is a dangerous lifestyle i trotted >off on the net and found this website (also lists Bob Calvert) > >http://hometown.aol.co.uk/glamrockbear/page22.html > >totting them up we get the following top ten of Rock'n'roll deaths.. > >1. Heart Attacks (11) >2. Accidents:Car/Plan/Helicopter/fire (7) >3. Cancer (7) >4. Drug related (5) >5/6/7. Pneumonia (3) Stroke/Cerebral haemorrage (3) and AIDs (3) >8. Drink related Kidney failure (2) >9. Suicide.(1) >10. Choking to death on a cherry stone > >I know it's not the total statistical base but possibly a representative >sample > >cheers! > >Maxine > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 16/11/2005 From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Nov 18 12:43:05 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:43:05 +0000 Subject: OFF: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <200511151242.jAFCgNBa021898@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:42:23PM +0000, M Holmes typed out: > Jonathan Jarrett writes: > > > But of course Ozzy's problem was or has been heroin > > Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due to medical valium. I suppose I wouldn't know any better but the one rocker I've personally met whom I knew had a valium problem wasn't shaky, just gloomy and rather `far away' if you know what I mean. > If it's not that, it looks more a result of alcohol misuse than drug > misuse. I think that's probably nearer the mark. But then Ozzy's career has a lot of a lot of stuff in it. Trying to identify one culprit may be a little unfair on the rest... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Fri Nov 18 13:02:26 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:02:26 -0800 Subject: OFF: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <20051118174305.GA2099@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: I thought Ozzy did too much coke, acid in the 70s and booze. I didn't ever think that he was on horse. Knowledge of rock stars' vices, that will get you far won't it? Gary --- Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:42:23PM +0000, M Holmes > typed out: > > Jonathan Jarrett writes: > > > > > But of course Ozzy's problem was or has > been heroin > > > > Seems his general shakiness now is allegedly due > to medical valium. > > I suppose I wouldn't know any better but the > one rocker I've > personally met whom I knew had a valium problem > wasn't shaky, just gloomy > and rather `far away' if you know what I mean. > > > If it's not that, it looks more a result of > alcohol misuse than drug > > misuse. > > I think that's probably nearer the mark. But > then Ozzy's career > has a lot of a lot of stuff in it. Trying to > identify one culprit may be a > little unfair on the rest... Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck > College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > > -------------------------------------------------------- > "The large print giveth and the small print taketh > away." (Tom Waits) > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Nov 18 18:56:15 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 18:56:15 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - This weeks vote Message-ID: hi all just a quick one, I'm away for the weekend so the Right To Decide vote will not be declared until late Sunday afternoon at the earliest, however keep voting in this weeks poll and feel free to start voting for week 4 anytime after 12.01 UK time on Sunday. as ever it's http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm for full details. if you vote for the losing song i will get in touch with you informing you of this and inviting you to re-cast your vote. thanks as ever Dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Nov 19 16:00:43 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 21:00:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <437A6AF2.4030801@spiralrealm.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 04:10:42PM -0700, Guido Vacano typed out: > Okay, thanks. I wonder how much art and music (and possibly other forms > of expression) would not exist if there were no "pissheads"/alcoholics, > or drug users/abusers? There certainly wouldn't be any psychedelic art > or music. No Salvador Dali. No Samuel Taylor Coleridge, I suspect. Edgar > Allan Poe? I wonder what Frank Zappa's work would have been like if he > didn't smoke like a chimney? I think it's certainly true that some creators of art, broadly speaking, get or got their greatest inspiration through applying drugs of one kind or another to their subconsciouses. But I'm not sure it's required. Dali seems to have had whatever he had on tap; if he had substance habits I don't know about them, but even if he did, on the other hand there's Maurits Escher, who is famously quoted as saying, "I don't take drugs. My dreams are frightening enough." Coleridge and Byron certainly fond of the laudanum; but Byron's best stuff shows no trace of it, while Coleridge's sings of drugs. As for musicians, Zappa is a fine example of someone who could priduce `psychedelic' music without the use of psychedelics. Steven Wilson would seem to be another. If Zappa hadn't had cigarettes, though, the coffee might have won out and we'd maybe have had death metal twenty years early :-) > IMHO, "pisshead" is an overly judgemental term of limited utility. Walk > a mile in Ozzy's shoes -- maybe you'd be a pisshead too? Again, it can't be that simple. The rest of Sabbath seem to have escaped the drugs in a way that Ozzy didn't. I think what I'm getting at is that people deal with things differently depending on who they are. This isn't exactly a great truth :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: On Trial - _Head Entrance_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Nov 20 11:58:33 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:58:33 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - This weeks vote Message-ID: hi all just a quickie, for whatever reason there seems to be a problem with the whole museum site at the moment! so consequently i can't update the voting slip for this weeks vote, but i will inform you as soon as the problem is rectified! please remain patient regards From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Nov 20 16:30:36 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:30:36 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - week 3 vote Message-ID: hi all well the site is back up and running but my illustrious web provider appears to still have problems so i can't upload the required new pages! so anyway here's the deal, the losing song last week was - LOVE IN SPACE quite a shock as it was performing well over the previous 2 weeks and had got off to a flyer this week. so for now please cast your votes using last weeks slip and of course ignoring the aforementioned Love In Space http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm sorry about this minor glitch and i will get it sorted ASAP regards Dave From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Nov 21 04:04:52 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:04:52 +0000 Subject: OFF: Motorhead! Cambridge .... Message-ID: They rocked! (Of course :) Headed over for the show with Rich Lockwood and Andy Gilham. Quite a queue to get in when the doors opened at 7.30, so we decided for a swift half somewhere inside -- a mistake as it turned out, since Girlschool must have started their set almost before the first punter got through the gate! When we got back at what we thought was a reasonable 8pm, they had almost finished their set, which sucked since we were quite keen to see them, but at least the few songs we heard sounded excellent. They have a new charity single out to benefit Air Ambulance (I think they said). Had a few goes at trying In Flames, the advertised support act, who were some metalers from Sweden. They seemed keen, but I guess you had to know and love the songs from the record, since they seemed to have basically an "on" setting and an "off" setting, with occasional bouts of semi-clean toned interlude. Didn't float my boat over all, though there was more synchronized hair-whirling-like-propellers head- banging than I'd seen since the days of Pantera ;) Motorhead at last appeared after a break that was almost as long as Girlschool's whole set, and of course rocked like all get out :) I was down the front were things were quite energetic ;) sort of sloshing around in the first metre-and-a-half of audience right in front of the drums. Very mixed-age audience, though it was a bit on the younger side where I was. There was a kid who had to have been about 10 in front of me who I thought would simply be trampled at several points, but I guess they still build 'em tough ;) The band ripped it up with a good mix of songs from their now very long career and seemed to be having a good time, Lemmy gurning away and grinning at Phil (who by now is looking not quite as haggard as Lemmy, but getting up there ;) I was kind of disappointed there were no guest appearances from Girlschool members, but hey ..... My ears may stop ringing by the time they'r next in town :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Mon Nov 21 04:31:26 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:31:26 -0000 Subject: off: antidrug lemmi Message-ID: > From: Alan Taylor > Subject: Off - antidrug lemmi > > good find - I'd expect to see more suicide. In fact ... have a squizz > at this > > http://www.av1611.org/rockdead.html The site opens with "The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened." - this guy doesn't seem aware of the 'only the good die young' angle ;-) but you can't beat a bit of brimstone and treacle! However -the stats seem about ok - with heart attacks and cancer coming in near top ...i previously believed that the Big C is quite indiscriminate but when you look at the incidents of lung cancer from smoking, skin cancer from sunbeds and now bowel cancer from binge drinking..... I'm a bit worried myself ! hey-ho Maxine From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Mon Nov 21 05:44:44 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:44:44 -0000 Subject: OFF: Motorhead! Cambridge ... Message-ID: >From: Carl Edlund Anderson > Subject: OFF: Motorhead! Cambridge .... > They rocked! (Of course :) [snip] > My ears may stop ringing by the time they'r next in town :) that's what i said in 1979 and they're still ringing.... so if they leave it until 2031 then maybe... cheers Maxine From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Nov 21 06:32:04 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:32:04 GMT Subject: OFF: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: gary shindler's message of Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:02:26 -0800 Message-ID: gary shindler writes: > I thought Ozzy did too much coke, acid in the 70s and > booze. I didn't ever think that he was on horse. > Knowledge of rock stars' vices, that will get you far > won't it? I see Gary Glitter's has him in trouble again. Perhaps we could list songs based on Rock Star vices. I guess "Do Ya Wanna Touch Me?" fits that category... FoFP From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Nov 21 10:15:51 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:15:51 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - This weeks vote Message-ID: hi all just to let you know that problems rectified and the new voting slip is now up for you! http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm if you've already cast your vote for this week, and plenty of you already have then there's no need to do anything, but for those who haven't click on the link above and have your say. thanks as ever Dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Nov 21 15:17:42 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:17:42 +0000 Subject: Off: antidrug lemmi In-Reply-To: <437E2452.9730.5A17732@localhost> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 10:55:34AM -0000, Maxine Wesley typed out: > I couldn't find the website but I'm guessing he's no Orlando Bloom.... > so i'm thinking along the lines of meth amphetamine... based on a > rather shock news report I saw the other evening (ITV) (photies > showing effect of 3 years usage - urrgh!) Skeletal is the word that springs most readily to mind: http://www.iommi.com/images/Iommi%20Hughes%202005%20-%20JMcM2%20big.jpg But the real problem I have with it is quite how much he has become like Bill Nighy's washed-up popstar character in _Love Actually_... If there was a rock _Private EYe_ this would be in the lookalikes. You know that's one of the more troubling concepts I've come up with recently. > Personally I find people look a lot better when I'm pissed? So it's just a matter of reversing the polarity of the alcohol flow? Oh I need to take my brain out and restart it. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From a.f.wilson at GMAIL.COM Mon Nov 21 15:36:38 2005 From: a.f.wilson at GMAIL.COM (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:36:38 -0000 Subject: Off: antidrug lemmi In-Reply-To: <20051121201741.GB3192@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: > > But the real problem I have with it is quite how much he has > become like Bill Nighy's washed-up popstar character in _Love > Actually_... If there was a rock _Private EYe_ this would be in the > lookalikes. > > You know that's one of the more troubling concepts I've come up > with recently. Love Actually is one of the more troubling concepts I've encountered and I would guess that no amount of any drug could explain *that* aberration away. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Nov 21 15:50:07 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:50:07 +0000 Subject: OFF: antidrug lemmy In-Reply-To: <20051118180226.36424.qmail@web36903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 10:02:26AM -0800, gary shindler typed out: > I thought Ozzy did too much coke, acid in the 70s and > booze. I didn't ever think that he was on horse. Now that I look, I can't actually find that where I thought I read it. I may have done the man a dis-service. All the Google results for `Ozzy Osbourne heroin' suggest that if he's been on it it was only ever briefly. Though http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1285/is_7_33/ai_105735868 offers the rather bizarre spectacle of Ozzy being interviewed on the phone by Marianne Faithful. > Knowledge of rock stars' vices, that will get you far > won't it? Seems to be keeping BOC-L ticking over... Yours, Jon ObAlbum: Tom Waits - _Nighthawks at the Diner_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Nov 21 16:13:23 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:13:23 -0600 Subject: Off: antidrug lemmi In-Reply-To: <20051121201741.GB3192@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: :Subject: Re: Off: antidrug lemmi : [snip] :http://www.iommi.com/images/Iommi%20Hughes%202005%20-%20JMcM2%20big.jpg : : But the real problem I have with it is quite how much he has :become like Bill Nighy's washed-up popstar character in _Love :Actually_... If there was a rock _Private EYe_ this would be in the :lookalikes. : : You know that's one of the more troubling concepts I've come up :with recently. heh. I thought the only film which had Bill Nighy as a rock star was Still Crazy? Arin (who never saw Love Actually, so that might be the problem.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/ENSS University of Chicago/NSIT/ENSS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From tim at KALYR.COM Mon Nov 21 16:34:14 2005 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:34:14 +0000 Subject: Off: antidrug lemmi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Arin Komins wrote: > heh. I thought the only film which had Bill Nighy as a rock star was > Still Crazy? The part which rumour had it was offered to David Coverdale, who turned it down because he thought the character was based on him :) -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK Mon Nov 21 16:59:11 2005 From: hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK (john-paul) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:59:11 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: hello everyone, am new to this so don't know if this will work but here goes. been doing some work indoors so decided to listen to the hawk studio catalogue from the beginning, and after about the third day i suddenly realised lots of things, it was like listening to a radio show with totally different bands, there is no natural progression, no individual can be discounted because his/her input is invaluable to the whole, no album can be less than another bacause that is that album by that "band", no album should be judged for some time after its release ( iitbotftbd was awful when it came out but listen to it now), there is a classic moment on each album.its taken me 30 years to reach this conclusion, what thinks everyone out there. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Nov 21 18:34:40 2005 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:34:40 EST Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: In a message dated 11/21/2005 5:10:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hawkwomble at TISCALI.CO.UK writes: hello everyone, am new to this so don't know if this will work but here goes. been doing some work indoors so decided to listen to the hawk studio catalogue from the beginning, and after about the third day i suddenly realised lots of things, it was like listening to a radio show with totally different bands, there is no natural progression, no individual can be discounted because his/her input is invaluable to the whole, no album can be less than another bacause that is that album by that "band", no album should be judged for some time after its release ( iitbotftbd was awful when it came out but listen to it now), there is a classic moment on each album.its taken me 30 years to reach this conclusion, what thinks everyone out there. I'M WITH YA 100%! Bill Stewart From mike at MIKEMONTFORT.COM Mon Nov 21 22:10:32 2005 From: mike at MIKEMONTFORT.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:10:32 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <001f01c5eee6$ceae37e0$18696f58@john6qd920sg2e> Message-ID: john-paul wrote: >hello everyone, am new to this so don't know if this will work but here goes. been doing some work indoors so decided to listen to the hawk studio catalogue from the beginning, and after about the third day i suddenly realised lots of things, it was like listening to a radio show with totally different bands, there is no natural progression, no individual can be discounted because his/her input is invaluable to the whole, no album can be less than another bacause that is that album by that "band", no album should be judged for some time after its release ( iitbotftbd was awful when it came out but listen to it now), there is a classic moment on each album.its taken me 30 years to reach this conclusion, what thinks everyone out there. > > > > > Well I think two things. One I'm thinking of my pet grammatical and syntax peeves, but I won't go there this time.. Second I see where you are coming from, but think that although each individual release has it's own personality, they are reflections of a stronger theme which is Hawkwind down through the years. But then I've always been one whom, once I have decided I think a band or artist is great, will allow myself an open enough mind to at least appreciate that a particual release is where their artistic muse is at that moment in time. Guess what I'm saying is the diversity in the Hawkwind Catalog is the trees, but the Forest is still the Hawkwind. Is that a Koan? Mike -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= No trees were harmed in the production of this e-mail; however, a huge number of electrons were horribly inconvenienced. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Floyd Code v1.2a r BO* 1/0/@ tG 0- 0 UG 5 51 65.5% <29mar5> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= GEEK CODE Version: 3.1 GB/L/MU d+(++) s: a+ C++(+++)$ !UC--- P+>$ L E? W+++$ N(++) o K- w+$>++ !O !M- V PS+(++) PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++ X- R tv+ b+++(++++) DI++ D+ G e++(++++) h---- r+++ z++++ From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Nov 22 12:27:17 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:27:17 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - This weeks vote Message-ID: hi all just the usual mid week reminder to make sure you make your voice heard in this weeks Right To Decide vote. http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm is, as ever the only address you need. polling has been brisk once more this week and if things continue in the same vein then i predict that we will once more have a record breaking vote! also don't forget to have a read of the clues that I'm posting every week and also I've just uploaded a Pie chart that give each songs percentage of the vote although I've chosen to leave the titles off just to keep it interesting, I'll attempt to update this as often as possible. thanks as ever for your continued support. regards Dave From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Nov 26 15:52:46 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:52:46 -0500 Subject: HW: Litmus gig Message-ID: Litmus will play their last gig of 2005 at the Ruskin Arms on Friday, December 2nd. This will be a full-length set with no support act; the band will be on stage at about 9:30pm. As this is the last show before Christmas, entry is FREE. As usual, audience recording is encouraged. http://www.ruskinarms.co.uk/ 386 High Street North, Manor Park, London, E12 6PH From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Nov 27 07:12:53 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:12:53 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - Here we go again Message-ID: hi folks just a quick note to say that the votes are in for week 4 of the Right To Decide and your new updated voting slip can be found as ever at http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm things are hotting up and the true contenders are starting to emerge so please keep up your superb support for this, without the likes of you this can't happen! thanks as ever Dave From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Sun Nov 27 07:38:54 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:38:54 -0000 Subject: Off: MW and the Weakest Link Message-ID: Hi y'all. bit of a sad weekend i ended up watching quiz shows on the box.... anyway half asleep on the sofa I couldn't believe it when Anne Robinson asked "Which talk show host sang on the Hawkwind album "Take me to your Leader"?".... it was then i realised Mathew Wright was one of the contestants, then Anne made him sing the intro to Spriit of the Age.... anyone else catch that one? cheers Maxine Multimedia Programmer DCQE University of Portsmouth 023 92 845385 http://userweb.port.ac.uk/~mxw "Eagles may soar free and proud, but weasles never get sucked into jet engines" - -- Jack Handey From steve.bishop at DB.COM Mon Nov 28 02:19:23 2005 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:19:23 +0000 Subject: Off: MW and the Weakest Link In-Reply-To: <4389A8DD.27568.194404@port.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yup - I saw it too, it was on in the background (whilst children having macaroni cheese) when I was shocked to hear 'I would have liked you to have been deep-frozen too ....' - big-up to MW for more publicity ! Maxine Wesley Sent by: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET 27/11/2005 12:38 cc Subject Please respond to Off: MW and the Weakest Link BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Hi y'all. bit of a sad weekend i ended up watching quiz shows on the box.... anyway half asleep on the sofa I couldn't believe it when Anne Robinson asked "Which talk show host sang on the Hawkwind album "Take me to your Leader"?".... it was then i realised Mathew Wright was one of the contestants, then Anne made him sing the intro to Spriit of the Age.... anyone else catch that one? cheers Maxine Multimedia Programmer DCQE University of Portsmouth 023 92 845385 http://userweb.port.ac.uk/~mxw "Eagles may soar free and proud, but weasles never get sucked into jet engines" - -- Jack Handey -- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Nov 28 05:48:33 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:48:33 GMT Subject: xmas party hotel? Message-ID: So are we all gonna book into the same hotel again and have a wee party after the gig? Any word from the band which one? FoFP From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Nov 28 12:20:10 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:20:10 EST Subject: xmas party hotel? Message-ID: I like the sound of that as I've no idea yet where to stay near the venue. I also have a spare ticket as the person I was going with is unable to attend. Steve. In a message dated 11/28/2005 10:50:17 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: So are we all gonna book into the same hotel again and have a wee party after the gig? Any word from the band which one? From Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM Mon Nov 28 16:27:33 2005 From: Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:27:33 -0000 Subject: Right to Decide vote - subliminal message from the Hawk Nebula... Message-ID: CIRCLE From Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM Mon Nov 28 16:27:50 2005 From: Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:27:50 -0000 Subject: Right to Decide vote - subliminal message from the Hawk Nebula... Message-ID: SQUARE From Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM Mon Nov 28 16:28:02 2005 From: Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:28:02 -0000 Subject: Right to Decide vote - subliminal message from the Hawk Nebula... Message-ID: TRIANGLE From Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM Mon Nov 28 16:28:13 2005 From: Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:28:13 -0000 Subject: Right to Decide vote - subliminal message from the Hawk Nebula... Message-ID: WAVE From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Nov 28 16:30:53 2005 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:30:53 +0000 Subject: still alive and on this planet (anyone intersted in some new music? ) Message-ID: Dear Friends, I am currently living back on my family farm in New Jersey, and have been recording new material for about 2 months now. Unfortunately, I am in a transition phase as far as my personal belongings etc, and no longer have regular access to the internet or my PC. I also no longer have the tools to upload any music, create cover art etc; however I'm anxious to get some of this stuff 'out there'. If you run an internet or 'real air' radio station, or would be interested in helping promote this new batch of material please contact me. Although there is a good deal of psychedelia in the mix, the majority of the music is a form of gangsta funk..Thanks, Mike Burro PS: There is of course at least one straight ahead spacerock tune From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Mon Nov 28 17:49:51 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:49:51 +0000 Subject: Right to Decide vote - subliminal message from the Hawk Nebula... In-Reply-To: <000f01c5f462$8cad30e0$35030356@sampc> Message-ID: Got mine in the wrong order 7 by 7 in reply Steve On 11/28/05, Sam Kirwan wrote: > > CIRCLE > From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Nov 28 18:59:51 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:59:51 -0600 Subject: xmas party hotel? In-Reply-To: <200511281048.jASAmXJi023978@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: xmas party hotel? : :So are we all gonna book into the same hotel again and have a wee party :after the gig? Any word from the band which one? Regretfully, I can't do this for folks this year, as I'm not able to make the xmas party (we're stuck here until we acquire a new travel permit for Rich. sigh. bureaucracy. Hope to aim for the summer if a hawkfest happens. Or next year's xmas party.) If someone wants to take over for the year, email me offline, and I'll share hotel contacts and various other bits and pieces ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Nov 29 05:46:35 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:46:35 GMT Subject: xmas party hotel? In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:59:51 -0600 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, M Holmes wrote: > > :Subject: xmas party hotel? > : > :So are we all gonna book into the same hotel again and have a wee party > :after the gig? Any word from the band which one? > > Regretfully, I can't do this for folks this year, as I'm not able to make > the xmas party (we're stuck here until we acquire a new travel permit for > Rich. sigh. bureaucracy. Hope to aim for the summer if a hawkfest > happens. Or next year's xmas party.) > > If someone wants to take over for the year, email me offline, and I'll > share hotel contacts and various other bits and pieces ;-) OK Arin, email me details and I'll figure out if I have time to give it a go... The basics: Did we get a package deal from the hotel because there were a few of us? Did we have to arrange something with the band or do they handle their own end of things? Do we have to organise staff to keep the bar open or is that taken as read at this time of year? Thanks FoFP P.S: I notice there's a Radisson in that area near the SF Bookshop opposite Leicester Sqare. Would they be as good as the other one up T. Court. Rd? From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Nov 29 09:19:43 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:19:43 -0600 Subject: xmas party hotel? In-Reply-To: <200511291046.jATAkZm0001532@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Re: xmas party hotel? : :OK Arin, email me details and I'll figure out if I have time to give it :a go... : :The basics: details sent offlist. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Nov 29 10:15:07 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:15:07 GMT Subject: xmas party hotel? In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:19:43 -0600 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, M Holmes wrote: > :Subject: Re: xmas party hotel? > :OK Arin, email me details and I'll figure out if I have time to give it > :a go... > details sent offlist. Hmmmm. There appear to be aspects of herding cats involved - not something my management style (slack until money and committment required, then dictatorial) might clash with the actuality. Let's guage interest from the fan end first. Coordination with band folks arrangements and whether we can coerce or bribe a bar to stay open can wait... So let's see how the numbers stack up: who would join in if we all got together in the same hotel? Note that it's late enough that I'm not asking in principle, I'm asking who would sign up and at 24 hours notice, without fail, actually pay the hotel (or if necessary me through Paypal - and I don't really need a treatise on the Evils of Paypal at this point..) Apart from that we should collate: 1. Room type wanted (single, double, twin) 2. Whether you'll share and with what limits on sex or species of sharer. 3. How much you're willing to pay at max. Whether we can get a deal on price will apparently depend on total number of rooms we can incontrovertibly (as in you've already paid) book. Such a deal if it materialises may take the form of a rebate at the event once a sufficient number of rooms have been paid for. So those who want to do this, and who will pay immediately when required to do so, please email me now and I'll at least compile a list. Cheers FoFP From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Nov 29 10:17:42 2005 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:17:42 +0000 Subject: Right to Decide vote - subliminal message from the Hawk Nebula... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: we may make our lives sublime....? That was sooo subliminal, mine came in UPSIDE DOWN(?)..too....lol pete >From: Steve Freight >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Right to Decide vote - subliminal message from the Hawk >Nebula... >Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:49:51 +0000 > >Got mine in the wrong order > >7 by 7 in reply > >Steve > > >On 11/28/05, Sam Kirwan wrote: > > > > CIRCLE > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Nov 29 11:47:22 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:47:22 GMT Subject: OFF: Fun face recognition Message-ID: Plug in a photo and it tells you who it looks like. http://www.myheritage.com/FP/Company/tryFaceRecognition.php It takes a while, but you plug in a photo and it finds a famous lookalike. I got John Travolta. It failed to match a 1974 piccie of Lemmy though. Haven't tried with anyone else yet but we could have a competition for the best Catweazle match... Speaking of lookalikes though: on the titles of Malcolm in the Middle, in the very first second, there's a shot of a cartoon figure with a dark hood on. I swear it looks like Brock in some 1980's picture where I've seen him in a hooded cowl - presumably Black Sword era. FoFP From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Tue Nov 29 12:11:30 2005 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (Hawkfan) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:11:30 -0000 Subject: Fun face recognition In-Reply-To: <200511291647.jATGlM7V006647@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >but we could have a competition for the best Catweazle >match... Other than Nik you mean. JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 29 November 2005 16:47 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: OFF: Fun face recognition Plug in a photo and it tells you who it looks like. http://www.myheritage.com/FP/Company/tryFaceRecognition.php It takes a while, but you plug in a photo and it finds a famous lookalike. I got John Travolta. It failed to match a 1974 piccie of Lemmy though. Haven't tried with anyone else yet but we could have a competition for the best Catweazle match... Speaking of lookalikes though: on the titles of Malcolm in the Middle, in the very first second, there's a shot of a cartoon figure with a dark hood on. I swear it looks like Brock in some 1980's picture where I've seen him in a hooded cowl - presumably Black Sword era. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Nov 29 15:08:03 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:08:03 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! Message-ID: Dalton6080 at it on Ebay again. Items: 4799961558 4799961891 4799962964 FoFP From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Nov 29 15:20:03 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:20:03 +0100 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! In-Reply-To: <200511292008.jATK83aD026028@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: What a shame !!!! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:08 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! Dalton6080 at it on Ebay again. Items: 4799961558 4799961891 4799962964 FoFP From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Nov 29 16:37:29 2005 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:37:29 -0000 Subject: xmas party hotel? Message-ID: Hi - I'm not coming down myself - dates just don't work out but I've found this a very useful site. http://www.hotels-london.co.uk/ Put in the start date and the number of nights you want to stay and then arrange the results in price order. Click on an individual hotel and it'll tell you how many singles/doubles etc are still available. Not sure how many hotels the site has in the area around the Astoria but it might be worth a try! good luck! jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re: xmas party hotel? > Arin Komins writes: > >> On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, M Holmes wrote: > >> :Subject: Re: xmas party hotel? > >> :OK Arin, email me details and I'll figure out if I have time to >> give it >> :a go... > >> details sent offlist. > > Hmmmm. There appear to be aspects of herding cats involved - not > something my management style (slack until money and committment > required, then dictatorial) might clash with the actuality. > > Let's guage interest from the fan end first. Coordination with > band > folks arrangements and whether we can coerce or bribe a bar to > stay open > can wait... > > So let's see how the numbers stack up: who would join in if we > all got > together in the same hotel? Note that it's late enough that I'm > not > asking in principle, I'm asking who would sign up and at 24 hours > notice, without fail, actually pay the hotel (or if necessary me > through > Paypal - and I don't really need a treatise on the Evils of > Paypal at > this point..) > > Apart from that we should collate: > > 1. Room type wanted (single, double, twin) > 2. Whether you'll share and with what limits on sex or species of > sharer. > 3. How much you're willing to pay at max. > > Whether we can get a deal on price will apparently depend on > total > number of rooms we can incontrovertibly (as in you've already > paid) > book. Such a deal if it materialises may take the form of a > rebate at > the event once a sufficient number of rooms have been paid for. > > So those who want to do this, and who will pay immediately when > required > to do so, please email me now and I'll at least compile a list. > > Cheers > > FoFP > > From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Wed Nov 30 05:58:09 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:58:09 -0000 Subject: Off xmas party hotel Message-ID: Hi, I was impressed with the friendliness of the staff at the Edwardian Radisson - that and I actually really enjoyed the short walk from the Astoria through London at midnight - a chance to see the xmas lights... but I'm up for anywhere where the group decides. cheers Maxine I'll email Mike separately to express intent! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Nov 30 06:07:35 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:07:35 GMT Subject: xmas party hotel? In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:37:29 -0000 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > Hi - I'm not coming down myself - dates just don't work out but > I've found this a very useful site. > > http://www.hotels-london.co.uk/ Excellent! Thanks Jill. To be honest it sounds like a lot of hassle. Arin says folks are going to turn up, then they're not, then they don't and she's already paid for them. And that's just the fans. The band's folks change hourly and then when they arrive they demand a different room because they're too near pylons or whatever. Sounds like folks might not be ready for my "This is THE DEAL. Now pay up, shut up, and get the fuck into your room" management style. On the plus side though, I now have the Ski Club trained to the idea that when I say they pay beforehand or they pay *more*, I mean it. It may cut down on overall numbers, but I now know how many are coming. FoFP From MICKYMOOCHER at AOL.COM Wed Nov 30 07:24:09 2005 From: MICKYMOOCHER at AOL.COM (Mick Davis) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:24:09 EST Subject: Off xmas party hotel Message-ID: hey maxine-i live in portsmouth too- fancy a beer ! From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Nov 30 07:58:15 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:58:15 -0600 Subject: xmas party hotel? In-Reply-To: <200511301107.jAUB7Z85026444@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Re: xmas party hotel? : :To be honest it sounds like a lot of hassle. Arin says folks are going :to turn up, then they're not, then they don't and she's already paid for :them. And that's just the fans. The band's folks change hourly and then :when they arrive they demand a different room because they're too near :pylons or whatever. Nature of organizing sometimes. ..and I only got hit with the extra fine for rooms first year that I did the organizing. I was extra careful in subsequent years, although it can get nervewracking when we drop under the 10 room allotments. ...and I never really had the time to take care of the band properly, and get all of their prefs up front. So more my problem than theirs. Really, to do the band right, I really should be in the UK and more easily accessible. Perils of only being a part-time organizer, I suspect ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Nov 30 08:17:08 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:17:08 GMT Subject: xmas party hotel? In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:58:15 -0600 Message-ID: My apologies to Arin, the band etc. Something I believed was sent to Jill made it here somehow. Mike From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Nov 30 08:23:08 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:23:08 GMT Subject: xmas party hotel? In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:58:15 -0600 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Nature of organizing sometimes. ..and I only got hit with the extra fine > for rooms first year that I did the organizing. I was extra careful in > subsequent years, > ...and I never really had the time to take care of the band properly, and > get all of their prefs up front. So more my problem than theirs. As I said, I can only really handle the fan end of things if that looks practicable. I'm no great shakes at negotiating deals and I have doubts I'd be able to do this to the band's satisfaction on my first attempt. > although it can get nervewracking when we drop under the > 10 room allotments. Yeah, I can see how that would go... > Really, to do the band right, I really should be in the UK and more easily > accessible. Perils of only being a part-time organizer, I suspect ;-) We'll miss you this year and not just for your expertise at getting this sort of stuff done... Mike From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Wed Nov 30 15:30:59 2005 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:30:59 EST Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! Message-ID: I'll check these out & if it's hooky then he may well have a surprise.