From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun May 1 13:55:51 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:55:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Album Release Dates + Gigs In-Reply-To: <000901c54d10$3e035b30$967d0552@roobarb> Message-ID: On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Mark Storer wrote: > ("Tongue in cheek" mode) > > Notice how you don't say which year!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rik Rx" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Album Release Dates + Gigs > > > > We are pleased to announce the release dates > > for our new studio album and single: > > > > Single - 'Spirit of the Age' - 30th August > > Album - 'Take Me To Your Leader' 12th Sept Perhaps Rik has a script set up to send this mail or one like it every year seeded with the correct tour dates. That'd be the difference between HW and BOC again, Hawkwind adapting to technology, while BOC just have Eric saying "it's coming out next year" from the stage. Still, there was a year Eric was right about that, so perhaps there's hope. Let's see, he started saying that nine years before the album finally came out, didn't he. If you're generous and start from the `Death Generator' bit Hawkwind can still beat that... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon May 2 10:49:11 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 15:49:11 +0100 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast Message-ID: Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. FoFP From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Mon May 2 11:00:21 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:00:21 -0700 Subject: OFF: Note from the north... Message-ID: Hey folks...I?ve just tried to figure out what?s going on in regards to HW discussion, and see here mainly something about the Pope (der Papst), and at the Yahoo list, some bit of nastiness (don?t know what...about the new album apparently) that Kris got upset about. I didn?t bother to look deeply into either thread, since I?m paying for this by the minute. So...I?m in Stockholm (if any of you care), and tonight take the ferry over to Turku, Finland on my way (eventually) to Ume?, Sweden (hey, they have a "?" key on this typewriter! Now if I can only get used to typing "y" instead of "z" every time (two years on a German typewriter can play tricks with your head)). There I will see the festival with Spacious Mind playing. Should be cool. The weather too, I imagine. I thought about going over to Bergen to see Hawkwind (hope you enjoy the show Scott), but I?m going to England next month for three shows, so that seemed like a long journey for just one additional show. Instead I?m going to visit Jussi Lehtisalo for a few days and find out what life is like in Pori, such that he makes such interesting music with all of his projects (Circle, Ektroverde, etc.). Anyway, here?s just a hello from the 60th parallel. Keith P.S. M&J...I?ll write again later to you personally about the Sheffield show. P.P.S. I saw the release dates...was the label announced? Is it Voiceprint again? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 2 11:00:03 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:00:03 +0100 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast Message-ID: What about 667 - is that still the neighbour of the beast? ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast > Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: > > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > > Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of > The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. > > FoFP > From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon May 2 11:02:51 2005 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (MikeMontfort) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:02:51 -0400 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast In-Reply-To: <200505021449.j42EnBvj011862@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: >Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: > >http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > >Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of >The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. > >FoFP > > > 667 - The neighbor of the beast 6x6x6 - The lumber of the beast -- No trees were harmed in the production of this e-mail; however, a huge number of electrons were horribly inconvenienced. Floyd Code v1.2a r BO* 1/0/@ tG 0- 0 UG 5 51 65.5% <29mar5> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GB/L/MU d+(++) s: a+ C++(+++)$ !UC--- P+>$ L E? W+++$ N(++) o K- w+$>++ !O !M- V PS+(++) PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++ X- R tv+ b+++(++++) DI++ D+ G e++(++++) h---- r+++ z++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon May 2 11:03:35 2005 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (MikeMontfort) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:03:35 -0400 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast In-Reply-To: <003c01c54f27$9f2666a0$25504354@SN037539420006> Message-ID: Ah beat me to it Ian Ian Abrahams wrote: >What about 667 - is that still the neighbour of the beast? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "M Holmes" >To: >Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:49 PM >Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast > > > > >>Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: >> >>http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 >> >>Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of >>The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. >> >>FoFP >> >> >> > > > -- No trees were harmed in the production of this e-mail; however, a huge number of electrons were horribly inconvenienced. Floyd Code v1.2a r BO* 1/0/@ tG 0- 0 UG 5 51 65.5% <29mar5> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GB/L/MU d+(++) s: a+ C++(+++)$ !UC--- P+>$ L E? W+++$ N(++) o K- w+$>++ !O !M- V PS+(++) PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++ X- R tv+ b+++(++++) DI++ D+ G e++(++++) h---- r+++ z++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 2 11:38:20 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:38:20 +0100 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast Message-ID: The old jokes are still, well, the oldest ... aren't they! ----- Original Message ----- From: "MikeMontfort" To: Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: The Wrong Number of The Beast > Ah beat me to it Ian > > Ian Abrahams wrote: > > >What about 667 - is that still the neighbour of the beast? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "M Holmes" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:49 PM > >Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast > > > > > > > > > >>Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: > >> > >>http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > >> > >>Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of > >>The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. > >> > >>FoFP > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > No trees were harmed in the production of this e-mail; however, a huge number of electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > Floyd Code > v1.2a r BO* 1/0/@ tG 0- 0 UG 5 51 65.5% <29mar5> > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1 > GB/L/MU d+(++) s: a+ C++(+++)$ !UC--- P+>$ L E? W+++$ N(++) o K- w+$>++ !O !M- V PS+(++) PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++ X- R tv+ b+++(++++) DI++ D+ G e++(++++) h---- r+++ z++++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon May 2 17:29:36 2005 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Satanic Pedant) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:29:36 -0400 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast Message-ID: >667 - The neighbor of the beast Actually, 664 and 668 would be the neighbors of the beast, 667 would be across the street. Stephan From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon May 2 17:21:08 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:21:08 -0400 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast Message-ID: Don't forget 333: the trainee for the beast... tim 8>)... Ian Abrahams wrote: > > The old jokes are still, well, the oldest ... aren't they! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MikeMontfort" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: The Wrong Number of The Beast > > > > Ah beat me to it Ian > > > > Ian Abrahams wrote: > > > > >What about 667 - is that still the neighbour of the beast? > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "M Holmes" > > >To: > > >Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:49 PM > > >Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: > > >> > > >>http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > > >> > > >>Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of > > >>The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. > > >> > > >>FoFP > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No trees were harmed in the production of this e-mail; however, a huge > number of electrons were horribly inconvenienced. > > > > Floyd Code > > v1.2a r BO* 1/0/@ tG 0- 0 UG 5 51 65.5% <29mar5> > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > Version: 3.1 > > GB/L/MU d+(++) s: a+ C++(+++)$ !UC--- P+>$ L E? W+++$ N(++) o K- w+$>++ !O > !M- V PS+(++) PE Y+ PGP- t+ 5++ X- R tv+ b+++(++++) DI++ D+ G e++(++++) > h---- r+++ z++++ > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > From jm555 at NECRONOMI.COM Mon May 2 18:15:53 2005 From: jm555 at NECRONOMI.COM (Joseph) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:15:53 -0400 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast In-Reply-To: <003c01c54f27$9f2666a0$25504354@SN037539420006> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 May 2005, Ian Abrahams wrote: > What about 667 - is that still the neighbour of the beast? No, 668 is the neighbor of the beast. 667 is the guy who lives acorss the street from the beast. And 600 is the corner liquor store of the beast. - J:.M:.555 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Holmes" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:49 PM > Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast > > > > Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: > > > > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > > > > Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of > > The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. > > > > FoFP > > > From Frank.Weil at MOTOROLA.COM Mon May 2 18:59:53 2005 From: Frank.Weil at MOTOROLA.COM (Weil Frank-CFW001) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:59:53 -0500 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of MikeMontfort > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:03 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: The Wrong Number of The Beast > > > M Holmes wrote: > > >Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: > > > >http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > > > >Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of > >The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. > 667 - The neighbor of the beast > 6x6x6 - The lumber of the beast $665.95 - The Retail Price of the Beast. 0.666 - Number of the Millibeast. 1010011010 - Binary Number of the Beast DCLXVI - Roman Numeral of the Beast Frank (Damn, now I have to update all of my related quotes.) From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Mon May 2 19:10:06 2005 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:10:06 +0100 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2 May 2005 at 17:59, Weil Frank-CFW001 wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of MikeMontfort > > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:03 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > Subject: Re: The Wrong Number of The Beast > > > > > > M Holmes wrote: > > > > >Looks like Heavy Metal got it wrong: > > > > > >http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > > > > > >Executive Summary: 616 is the Number of The Beast. Previous Numbers of > > >The Beast should be disregarded as invalid, if not heresy. > > > 667 - The neighbor of the beast > > 6x6x6 - The lumber of the beast > > $665.95 - The Retail Price of the Beast. > 0.666 - Number of the Millibeast. > 1010011010 - Binary Number of the Beast > DCLXVI - Roman Numeral of the Beast vivivi - the editor of the beast 333 - the baby of the beast 555 - cigarettes of the beast 777 - the beast's private jet From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 3 07:57:11 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:57:11 +0100 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast In-Reply-To: Joseph's message of Mon, 2 May 2005 18:15:53 -0400 Message-ID: Joseph writes: > And 600 is the corner liquor store of the beast. Where they turn wine into water? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 3 07:58:20 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:58:20 +0100 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast In-Reply-To: Weil Frank-CFW001's message of Mon, 2 May 2005 17:59:53 -0500 Message-ID: Weil Frank-CFW001 writes: > $665.95 - The Retail Price of the Beast. > 0.666 - Number of the Millibeast. > 1010011010 - Binary Number of the Beast > DCLXVI - Roman Numeral of the Beast 666b : The tenant of The Beast From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue May 3 11:08:37 2005 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:08:37 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK forced to cancel Wilmington show: Monday, May 9th Message-ID: Dear friends, due to unforseen cicumstances with my job as a college professor, I have no choice but to cancel the SLOTERDIJK appearance at the 4W5 Cafe in Wilmington, next Monday, the 9th of May. The event is still on , and there is some grea talent, so don;t let our absence discourage you from checking it out. Also , there might be an open slot now, so any band/project that is interested in taking our place, please use the e-mail contact below...peace, Mike Burro ( SLOTERDIJK ) PS: We look forward to playing the Millcreek tavern in Philly on June 25th with Sub-Primitive & Mandible ( a DC band which I am propping up in the greater Philadelphi /New jersey area). I will provide more info about this show soon, and Bob Lennon could probably also offer some stuff. I'm really bogged down right now with work and 'domestic duties', but I can assure you, the philly show is going to be excellent..My apologies... Also see: http://www.soundalliance.com Playing will be: > >sloterdijk ( CANCELLED ) > >Etchant (www.soundclick.com/etchant) > >William Fields (DJing, www.williamfields.com) > > > >Macro Mondays @ > >4W5 Cafe > >Corner of 5th and Market Streets > >Wilmington, DE > >(302) 661-0100 > > > >all-ages, beer/wine (w/id) > >full-menu, $3, free parking > > > >contact: tric at tonedeafrecords.com > > From jm555 at NECRONOMI.COM Tue May 3 12:03:33 2005 From: jm555 at NECRONOMI.COM (Joseph) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:03:33 -0400 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast In-Reply-To: <200505031157.j43BvBdx009623@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 May 2005, M Holmes wrote: > Joseph writes: > > > And 600 is the corner liquor store of the beast. > > Where they turn wine into water? Naw, they turn water into wine, and then don't let you drink it. - J:.M:.555 From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue May 3 15:02:37 2005 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:02:37 +0100 Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast Message-ID: Curious - that particular message ended up in my Norton AntiSpam folder! jill mno : the txt of the Beast ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:58 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: The Wrong Number of The Beast > Weil Frank-CFW001 writes: > >> $665.95 - The Retail Price of the Beast. >> 0.666 - Number of the Millibeast. >> 1010011010 - Binary Number of the Beast >> DCLXVI - Roman Numeral of the Beast > > 666b : The tenant of The Beast > > From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue May 3 17:53:50 2005 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:53:50 -0400 Subject: NIK: Space Ritual - Live at the Venusian Electric Ballroom Message-ID: ...in the Cygnus 5 Galaxy. First impressions: Finally, a Space Ritual disc that sounds better than an audience recording! A whole lot better in fact - this may be the best-sounding HW or related release in yoinks, or at least the one with the sound that I like the most. Great not-muddy-but-giving-that-impression wall-of-sound production that still lets you hear the solos clearly - Slattery and Turner both turn in some very nice ones. Excellent though HLL is on so much HW material, I always thought he never quite nailed the proper feel for Space Ritual-era material (not necessarily his fault as the band as a whole usually didn't nail it either between 1980 and 2000, with the exception of 89-90 which was down to Simon House). Slattery however does. And its not just the frontmen, everyone here turns in solid performances, particularly the drummers who lock into a groove like nobody's business. Speaking of which, many of the tracks are played slightly slowed down, a too-rare choice and one which I much prefer to them being speeded up - it emphasizes the impression of an obliviously unstoppable juggernaut that is a highlight of the SR-era songs. Overall I'd put this disc in the same league as Nik's mid-90s live releases on Cleopatra. Of course, against the very good sound and the very good performance you have to weigh the fact that this is basically the same old setlist, played, despite some minor variations, in the same old way. For me though its a no-brainer: I definitely recommend this. Second impressions: Coming later if I should change my mind on subsequent listens. Stephan 666.00066600066600066600066600066602 - High-Precison Number of the Beast The Devil is in the Details From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue May 3 18:00:27 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 23:00:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Wrong Number of The Beast In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 2 May 2005, Satanic Pedant wrote: > >667 - The neighbor of the beast > > Actually, 664 and 668 would be the neighbors of the beast, 667 would be > across the street. _668: Neighbour of the Beast_ is a fine fine album by a Canadian hardcore band called My Dog Popper who were around in the late eighties. If you frequent MP3-filled places, see if you can find `We're Old, We're Fat and We're Slow' or `Acid Flashback', they're hilarious. If you see a copy grab it; you will thank yourself you did. Yours, Jon ObCD: Nektar - _A Tab in the Ocean_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue May 3 18:53:17 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 18:53:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Info Update. . . . Message-ID: ++ + +++ STAR WARRIORS + ++ + ++ + + Info Update MAY issue of MOJO has 2 page Article of HAWKWIND with 'top 10' Albums as voted for by a poll of readers... Large (rare) 70's pic included... Matthew Wright will Guest with the band at Croydon..... +++++ MESSAGE ENDS + +++ www.hawkwind.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue May 3 19:55:27 2005 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:55:27 EDT Subject: The Wrong Number of The Beast Message-ID: In a message dated 5/3/2005 6:59:41 AM US Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: 666b : The tenant of The Beast 566- The Downstairs Neighbor of the Beast: "Grrrh, roooaar ahhhhhhhhh!" "KEEP IT DOWN, WILL YOU! I'M TRYING TO SLEEP !!" Joe From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Tue May 3 21:36:15 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 02:36:15 +0100 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay Message-ID: These CD's are bootlegs - or pirates - or countefeits - or all three I've been offered an unlimited quantity of each for sale and turned it down flat!!! Please - please - do the same - you're not helping anyone by buying these Cd's - especially the band. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Hakwind prices on Ebay > On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:30:37 +0100, M Holmes > wrote: > > >Stephen Swann writes: > >> This reminds me, I recently picked up a strange, > >> possibly bootleggy thing which is the Hawklords "25 > >> Years On" album, plus a couple of live tracks ... > >> > >> It has the 8 tracks of the original release, > >> plus these two live tracks: > >> 9. Who's Gonna Win The War 5:54 > >> (Brock) > >> 10. Drug Cabinet Key 6:06 > >> (Brock/Calvert) > > > >Any idea which tracks from the Codex these are? > > I'd have to believe that "Drug Cabinet Key" is the same version as on the > withdrawn Weird Tape and F&R vol.3. Which has never been released on CD, > so if *that* track does not sound ripped-from-vinyl, then there's > something fishy going on ... > > And it would make the most sense that "Who's Gonna Win The War" is version > 1 in the Codex, and definitely not 1c (the Flicknife single edit, which is > less than 5 minutes long). It could have easily been taken from the > Flicknife F&R or Independent Daze CD's, or from the Weird CD's on > Voiceprint. > > >Is there a source I can find the Rock Fever stuff without bidding on > >Ebay? > > With most eBay auctions, isn't there a contact-the-seller feature? I'm > sure that whoever is auctioning them has a reasonable stock. > > And for that matter, are there any German Hawkfans on the list near > Hamburg? (I think Bernhard is the closest I know of, and he's not that > close.) > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From drill.0010.1011.1100 at GMAIL.COM Tue May 3 22:04:44 2005 From: drill.0010.1011.1100 at GMAIL.COM (Drill) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 22:04:44 -0400 Subject: NIK: Space Ritual - Live at the Venusian Electric Ballroom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 1980 and 2000? Undisclosed Files addendum is easily the most played of my official Hawkwind live album collection. Also, I don't care what anyone says Live Chronicles is really good (Brock's voice isn't nearly as good as in the studio album, and Moorcock is being really irritating/silly for whatever reason, maybe seeing what's going on would explain that.). I've only heard a few live recordings (a few individual songs) by Hawkwind from the late 80s up to now. [LJ] Saw Nik in Boston last October, there were 5 people there! In the middle of the show I left the venue to crank up and they wouldn't let us back in*! Spaceseed also had reasons to get amused by the callous robots/pissy-student-employees at that place. There was a best-ever version of D-rider, and I got to talk to N. Turner and the band, then later to my astonishment as I was cruising around on a moped the bus and I crossed paths again and had the self bestowed honor bestowed on me of providing special escort to the highway! Apparently it was needed - after doubling back on my own route I looked behind me just in time to see the bus fuck up the very last turn, heading downtown instead of taking a right- hah! Actually the driver probably decided to got to another onramp down that way, anyway I hope it didn't delay them alot-- it was probably 2 or 3 AM on a weeknight) *same guy who said to my face that re-entry was permitted On 5/3/05, Stephan Forstner wrote: > ...in the Cygnus 5 Galaxy. > > First impressions: > > Finally, a Space Ritual disc that sounds better than an audience recording! > > A whole lot better in fact - this may be the best-sounding HW or related > release in yoinks, or at least the one with the sound that I like the most. > Great not-muddy-but-giving-that-impression wall-of-sound production that > still lets you hear the solos clearly - Slattery and Turner both turn in > some very nice ones. Excellent though HLL is on so much HW material, I > always thought he never quite nailed the proper feel for Space Ritual-era > material (not necessarily his fault as the band as a whole usually didn't > nail it either between 1980 and 2000, with the exception of 89-90 which was > down to Simon House). Slattery however does. And its not just the frontmen, > everyone here turns in solid performances, particularly the drummers who > lock into a groove like nobody's business. Speaking of which, many of the > tracks are played slightly slowed down, a too-rare choice and one which I > much prefer to them being speeded up - it emphasizes the impression of an > obliviously unstoppable juggernaut that is a highlight of the SR-era songs. > > Overall I'd put this disc in the same league as Nik's mid-90s live releases > on Cleopatra. Of course, against the very good sound and the very good > performance you have to weigh the fact that this is basically the same old > setlist, played, despite some minor variations, in the same old way. For me > though its a no-brainer: I definitely recommend this. > > Second impressions: > Coming later if I should change my mind on subsequent listens. > > Stephan > > 666.00066600066600066600066600066602 - High-Precison Number of the Beast > The Devil is in the Details > -- Rotary Clench Mars Human Exchange & Suicide Program - Kill All Humans From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue May 3 23:27:06 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 20:27:06 -0700 Subject: OT: any past BMG Club members? Message-ID: You are receiving this email because you may be entitled to benefits under a pending class action settlement. If you were a member of a BMG Music Service Club and paid shipping and handling charges for delivery of Club items during the period from June 14, 1998 through February 1, 2005, then click below for more information on the class action settlement of Stelk v. BeMusic, Inc. http://bmgmusic.chtah.com/a/tBCd9hHAWbd3hAWhGwzAMETqpB-/bmg1 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 4 10:48:48 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:48:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Info Update. . . . In-Reply-To: Rik Rx's message of Tue, 3 May 2005 18:53:17 -0400 Message-ID: Rik Rx writes: > ++ + +++ STAR WARRIORS + ++ + ++ + + > > Info Update > > MAY issue of MOJO has 2 page Article of HAWKWIND > with 'top 10' Albums as voted for by a poll of > readers... Large (rare) 70's pic included... Just been to the shops. No May issues because the June issue is now in... FoFP From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed May 4 14:55:26 2005 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 14:55:26 -0400 Subject: NIK: Space Ritual - Live at the Venusian Electric Ballroom Message-ID: On Tue, 3 May 2005 22:04:44 -0400, Drill wrote: >1980 and 2000? Undisclosed Files addendum is easily the most played of >my official Hawkwind live album collection. Also, I don't care what >anyone says Live Chronicles is really good I'm just talking about the SR tunes on them (Master of the Universe, the Brainstorm bit, Orgone Accumulator, and, if you stretch it a bit, Magnu and Ejection). They don't have the right aura to them - they're too punk, too metal, most of all too fast - they have a sort of *frantic* feel to them. I've got no problem with HW re-inventing their catalog, in fact they SHOULD do it, but even though they fit in with the style of the time, I don't think that particular approach suits these particular tracks. They're looking over their shoulder to see what's coming up on them, but they should be lumbering along knowing where they're going and in no rush to get there because there's nothing that could possibly get in their way. Just MHO. Stephan From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Wed May 4 15:56:17 2005 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Reptoid) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:56:17 -0400 Subject: NIK: Space Ritual - Live at the Venusian Electric Ballroom Message-ID: Ah yes, the Milky Way in Boston... << >From Cellsum.com, new Surgeons tour dates: Saturday June 11 New Haven CT Cafe Nine Tuesday July 26 Baltimore MD The Mojo Room Wednesday July 27 Chapel Hill NC Local 506 Thusrsady July 28 Charleston WV Empty Glass Friday July 29 Greensaboro NC Somewhere Else Tavern Wednesday Aug 3 Shreveport LA Lil' Joe's Thursday August 4 Fort Worth TX The Aardvark Saturday August 6 Little Rock AK Downtown Music Sunday August 7 Memphis TN Hi Tone Cafe Thursday Aug 11 Indianapolis IN The Melody Inn Friday Aug 12 Chicago IL TBA Saturday August 13 Milwaukee WI The Onopa Brewery From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed May 4 22:21:58 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:21:58 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates for June, July & August Message-ID: Hey, come on now, what about Florida?? You, know, there are some people here with fine taste in music!!! tim 8>)... blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM wrote: > > From Cellsum.com, new Surgeons tour dates: > > Saturday June 11 > New Haven CT > Cafe Nine > > Tuesday July 26 > Baltimore MD > The Mojo Room > > Wednesday July 27 > Chapel Hill NC > Local 506 > > Thusrsady July 28 > Charleston WV > Empty Glass > > Friday July 29 > Greensaboro NC > Somewhere Else Tavern > > Wednesday Aug 3 > Shreveport LA > Lil' Joe's > > Thursday August 4 > Fort Worth TX > The Aardvark > > Saturday August 6 > Little Rock AK > Downtown Music > > Sunday August 7 > Memphis TN > Hi Tone Cafe > > Thursday Aug 11 > Indianapolis IN > The Melody Inn > > Friday Aug 12 > Chicago IL > TBA > > Saturday August 13 > Milwaukee WI > The Onopa Brewery From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed May 4 22:51:57 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:51:57 -0700 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates for June, July & August In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd consider Fort Worth if we still live in these parts. Already met Buck Dharma and it would be cool to meet Albert. Any other bands on the tour? Not that I'd know them, most likely. --- Tim wrote: > Hey, come on now, what about Florida?? You, know, > there are some people > here with fine taste in music!!! > tim 8>)... > blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM wrote: > > > > From Cellsum.com, new Surgeons tour dates: > > > > Saturday June 11 > > New Haven CT > > Cafe Nine > > > > Tuesday July 26 > > Baltimore MD > > The Mojo Room > > > > Wednesday July 27 > > Chapel Hill NC > > Local 506 > > > > Thusrsady July 28 > > Charleston WV > > Empty Glass > > > > Friday July 29 > > Greensaboro NC > > Somewhere Else Tavern > > > > Wednesday Aug 3 > > Shreveport LA > > Lil' Joe's > > > > Thursday August 4 > > Fort Worth TX > > The Aardvark > > > > Saturday August 6 > > Little Rock AK > > Downtown Music > > > > Sunday August 7 > > Memphis TN > > Hi Tone Cafe > > > > Thursday Aug 11 > > Indianapolis IN > > The Melody Inn > > > > Friday Aug 12 > > Chicago IL > > TBA > > > > Saturday August 13 > > Milwaukee WI > > The Onopa Brewery > Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Thu May 5 09:30:31 2005 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:30:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pierre Moerlen dies Message-ID: Sad news: Pierre Moerlen, former Gong drummer, died last night. More details on www.planetgong.co.uk Nick From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu May 5 09:33:25 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:33:25 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates for June, July & August Message-ID: Tim wrote: > Hey, come on now, what about Florida?? You, know, there are some people >here with fine taste in music!!! No doubt, but I would think that if the Surgeons played in Florida, it would be during the winter rather than the heat of summer. Maybe you could convince them to take a working winter break in the Sunshine State. ;-) Brian obCD> Brain Surgeons, _Piece of Work_ From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu May 5 09:51:28 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:51:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pierre Moerlen dies In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sad news indeed, I got my copy of the just released Gong 1975 Sherwood forest gig today and was listening to it this morning and thinking wa great drumming. very strange then to turn to the gong web page to see he'd died. iain Nick Medford wrote on 5/5/2005, 2:30 PM: > Sad news: Pierre Moerlen, former Gong drummer, died last night. More > details on www.planetgong.co.uk > > Nick > From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu May 5 11:34:28 2005 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:34:28 +0200 Subject: HW: Bergen Message-ID: Hej All I can say is, what an incredible time. I hung out with Hawkwind and WE the whole day. Did a 30 min interview with the whole band and everyone was in a great mood. Lots of news..... The crowd was really great in Bergen and WE joined Hawkwind for Brainstorm and Masters of the universe. IT was about 90-100 minute long concert and quite similar to the set at Xmas.. Great sound and light show. The band had some technical problems but although quite tired was in a great mood and said funny stuff and played a lot of guitar and was up in the front of the stage most of the concert. Dancers were quite good as well. An unforgetable night... oh yeah..... Take me to your leader has been sent off to have the glass master made and the artwork, so it is in the can now for sure. They would not reveal the record label. It will not take 10 years for the next CD as they already have loads of stuff recorded and have finally after a year mastered Logic 7, which they use for all their production, so things can go much faster. Full interview will appear in german in the moonhead magazine as well as in english at Aural Innovations and maybe lowcut. We will see. It was all filmed on 7 cameras in bergen with 24 track audio.. lets see if they do anything with it.. The new doulbe live CD coming out is the complete Hawkfest 2003 gig. Hawkfest 2005 is probably going to happen over the bank holiday in August but this is not 100% yet. The Robert Calvert Project CD is finished as well, which is robert reading his poetry and HW putting backing music to it... sounds cool... more later, scott PS: Thanks to Ketil for the amazing hospitality and if you ever get a chance in your life, visit Bergen, one of the most beautiful places I have ever been! From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu May 5 12:12:40 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:12:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Bergen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 05/05/2005 16:34, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > It will not take 10 years for the > next CD as they already have loads of stuff recorded and have finally > after a year mastered Logic 7, which they use for all their production, > so things can go much faster. Heh, I had briefly looked at Logic Express 7 for the home studio, but quickly decided it was way out of my budget (and Pro was definitely over budget!). I had also been looking at Cubase SE, but will probably just start by seeing how I get on with GarageBand 2 after I pick up a Firewire audio interface. My trusty Roland VS-1680 is a great piece of kit, but it's lack of interface to the computer makes many things more complicated than they need to be these days. Being able to plug in and go, with a handy familiar interface where I can sketch and slice on the fly, would really speed my dismally slow recording work up! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Thu May 5 12:24:21 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:24:21 +0100 Subject: Bergen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Scott, That was a fantastic post; thank you :-) Mark -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: 05 May 2005 16:34 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Bergen Hej All I can say is, what an incredible time. I hung out with Hawkwind and WE the whole day. Did a 30 min interview with the whole band and everyone was in a great mood. Lots of news..... The crowd was really great in Bergen and WE joined Hawkwind for Brainstorm and Masters of the universe. IT was about 90-100 minute long concert and quite similar to the set at Xmas.. Great sound and light show. The band had some technical problems but although quite tired was in a great mood and said funny stuff and played a lot of guitar and was up in the front of the stage most of the concert. Dancers were quite good as well. An unforgetable night... oh yeah..... Take me to your leader has been sent off to have the glass master made and the artwork, so it is in the can now for sure. They would not reveal the record label. It will not take 10 years for the next CD as they already have loads of stuff recorded and have finally after a year mastered Logic 7, which they use for all their production, so things can go much faster. Full interview will appear in german in the moonhead magazine as well as in english at Aural Innovations and maybe lowcut. We will see. It was all filmed on 7 cameras in bergen with 24 track audio.. lets see if they do anything with it.. The new doulbe live CD coming out is the complete Hawkfest 2003 gig. Hawkfest 2005 is probably going to happen over the bank holiday in August but this is not 100% yet. The Robert Calvert Project CD is finished as well, which is robert reading his poetry and HW putting backing music to it... sounds cool... more later, scott PS: Thanks to Ketil for the amazing hospitality and if you ever get a chance in your life, visit Bergen, one of the most beautiful places I have ever been! From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Thu May 5 12:35:33 2005 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:35:33 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates for June, July & August Message-ID: Let me get this straight. 7/27 in Chapel Hill, NC 7/28 in Charleston, WV 7/29 in Greensboro, NC. That's quite a detour, there. On a positive note, it's a birthday present, Precious. A couple of days late, but that's cool. :) From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu May 5 13:11:42 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:11:42 +0200 Subject: Bergen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for this review Scott Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of SHLL (Scott Heller) Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:34 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Bergen Hej All I can say is, what an incredible time. I hung out with Hawkwind and WE the whole day. Did a 30 min interview with the whole band and everyone was in a great mood. Lots of news..... The crowd was really great in Bergen and WE joined Hawkwind for Brainstorm and Masters of the universe. IT was about 90-100 minute long concert and quite similar to the set at Xmas.. Great sound and light show. The band had some technical problems but although quite tired was in a great mood and said funny stuff and played a lot of guitar and was up in the front of the stage most of the concert. Dancers were quite good as well. An unforgetable night... oh yeah..... Take me to your leader has been sent off to have the glass master made and the artwork, so it is in the can now for sure. They would not reveal the record label. It will not take 10 years for the next CD as they already have loads of stuff recorded and have finally after a year mastered Logic 7, which they use for all their production, so things can go much faster. Full interview will appear in german in the moonhead magazine as well as in english at Aural Innovations and maybe lowcut. We will see. It was all filmed on 7 cameras in bergen with 24 track audio.. lets see if they do anything with it.. The new doulbe live CD coming out is the complete Hawkfest 2003 gig. Hawkfest 2005 is probably going to happen over the bank holiday in August but this is not 100% yet. The Robert Calvert Project CD is finished as well, which is robert reading his poetry and HW putting backing music to it... sounds cool... more later, scott PS: Thanks to Ketil for the amazing hospitality and if you ever get a chance in your life, visit Bergen, one of the most beautiful places I have ever been! From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 5 17:26:29 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:26:29 +0100 Subject: Bergen Message-ID: Interesting news. So, the Hawkfest 2003 set is going to come out; as it is a 2CD release, I guess that means that the "Hawkwind-Lite" set with Harvey, Dibs, Martin Griffin etc, will not be part of it....pity. Good to hear that Bergen was filmed; was the whole festival filmed, or just the Hawkwind set? As to Bergen itself, I have to agree that it is startlingly beautiful; I worked there for a little while a few years ago and enjoyed everything about it except the prices. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" To: Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: HW: Bergen Hej All I can say is, what an incredible time. I hung out with Hawkwind and WE the whole day. Did a 30 min interview with the whole band and everyone was in a great mood. Lots of news..... The crowd was really great in Bergen and WE joined Hawkwind for Brainstorm and Masters of the universe. IT was about 90-100 minute long concert and quite similar to the set at Xmas.. Great sound and light show. The band had some technical problems but although quite tired was in a great mood and said funny stuff and played a lot of guitar and was up in the front of the stage most of the concert. Dancers were quite good as well. An unforgetable night... oh yeah..... Take me to your leader has been sent off to have the glass master made and the artwork, so it is in the can now for sure. They would not reveal the record label. It will not take 10 years for the next CD as they already have loads of stuff recorded and have finally after a year mastered Logic 7, which they use for all their production, so things can go much faster. Full interview will appear in german in the moonhead magazine as well as in english at Aural Innovations and maybe lowcut. We will see. It was all filmed on 7 cameras in bergen with 24 track audio.. lets see if they do anything with it.. The new doulbe live CD coming out is the complete Hawkfest 2003 gig. Hawkfest 2005 is probably going to happen over the bank holiday in August but this is not 100% yet. The Robert Calvert Project CD is finished as well, which is robert reading his poetry and HW putting backing music to it... sounds cool... more later, scott PS: Thanks to Ketil for the amazing hospitality and if you ever get a chance in your life, visit Bergen, one of the most beautiful places I have ever been! From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu May 5 17:30:14 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (HW) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:30:14 -0400 Subject: HW: Forthcoming release Message-ID: + +++ STAR WARRIORS ++ ++ ++ In addition to 'Take Me To Your Leader' we will be releasing a 2cd album of the Hawkwind set at Hawkfest 2003 titled 'FESTIVAL NIGHTS' More news of a decision on Hawkfest 2005 coming soon............. News will be released on Mission Control ASAP. The Bergen set was professionally filmed, and recorded in 24 track audio. This should make a DVD release in the not too distant future. ++ MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + + + www.hawkwind.com From coral at APORT.RU Fri May 6 05:12:48 2005 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:12:48 +0400 Subject: HW: Forthcoming release Message-ID: Great News! ----- Original Message ----- From: "HW" To: Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:30 AM Subject: Re: HW: Forthcoming release > + +++ STAR WARRIORS ++ ++ ++ > > In addition to 'Take Me To Your Leader' > we will be releasing a 2cd album of the > Hawkwind set at Hawkfest 2003 titled > 'FESTIVAL NIGHTS' > > More news of a decision on Hawkfest 2005 > coming soon............. > > News will be released on Mission Control ASAP. > > The Bergen set was professionally filmed, and > recorded in 24 track audio. This should make a > DVD release in the not too distant future. > > ++ MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + + + > > www.hawkwind.com > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri May 6 05:33:17 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:33:17 +0100 Subject: Bergen In-Reply-To: <006801c551b9$1a304da0$6cd1fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: On 05/05/2005 22:26, Colin J Allen wrote: > As to Bergen itself, I have to agree that it is startlingly beautiful; I > worked there for a little while a few years ago and enjoyed everything about > it except the prices. It could have rained less on me when I was there, but it was prettier rain than Cambridge gets :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Fri May 6 10:41:40 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:41:40 +0200 Subject: Love & Peace festival Message-ID: Hi Folks Just phoned the guys who are promoting the Festival They told me that an agreement was made and that HAWKWIND is playing on 18.06.2005 !!!! For further informations please visit: www.kultopolis.de cheers Bernhard From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 6 12:30:12 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:30:12 +0100 Subject: Love & Peace festival In-Reply-To: bernhard.pospiech's message of Fri, 6 May 2005 16:41:40 +0200 Message-ID: bernhard.pospiech writes: > Hi Folks > > Just phoned the guys who are promoting the Festival > > They told me that an agreement was made and that HAWKWIND is playing on > 18.06.2005 !!!! > > For further informations please visit: > www.kultopolis.de Hmmmm, in German. So where is it? FoFP From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Fri May 6 13:50:25 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:50:25 +0200 Subject: Love & Peace festival (correction) Message-ID: Hi again Folks No good news: Just had a very informative phonecall with Dave. He told me that HAWKWIND will NOT play this festival in Germany in June I am very sorry but it looks like if I was missinformed by an idiot in the Festival-Office who did not know that there was not a contract made cheers Bernhard From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 6 13:52:59 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:52:59 +0100 Subject: More dodgy CD's on Ebay? Message-ID: Rock fever doing Quark/Astounding double: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&category=58609&item=4726819349&rd=1 Note that they make the claim that this is a legal release. FoFP From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Fri May 6 14:23:00 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:23:00 -0400 Subject: Love & Peace festival (correction) In-Reply-To: <006101c55264$15862fd0$02fea8c0@pospiech5> Message-ID: Quoting "bernhard.pospiech" : > Hi again Folks > > No good news: > Just had a very informative phonecall with Dave. He told me that > HAWKWIND will NOT play this festival in Germany in June > > I am very sorry but it looks like if I was missinformed by an idiot in > the Festival-Office > who did not know that there was not a contract made I've learned this lesson a long time ago. ALWAYS wait to hear confirmation from the band, not the promoter (they just want to sell tickets; they don't care what bands really show up). King Crimson is often "promoted" when Robert has no knowledge or even intention of playing somehwere. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "You should have seen the curse that flew right by you Page of concrete, stained walks crutch in hobbled sway Auto-da-f?, a capillary hint of red. Only this manupod crescent in shape has escaped" Televators - THE MARS VOLTA From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 6 14:58:13 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:58:13 -0400 Subject: Love & Peace festival (correction) Message-ID: On Fri, 6 May 2005 19:50:25 +0200, bernhard.pospiech wrote: >No good news: >Just had a very informative phonecall with Dave. He told me that >HAWKWIND will NOT play this festival in Germany in June That's too bad. I know members of one of the bands that's scheduled to play the day before HW were supposed to play. I was thinking of asking if they needed a tech/roadie for the event ;^). Just out of curiosity, are any of the seemingly-tentative German (plus Vienna) dates in June happening? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Fri May 6 16:36:31 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 22:36:31 +0200 Subject: Love & Peace festival (correction) In-Reply-To: <20050506142300.yus944oocw8w08c4@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: Hi David >I've learned this lesson a long time ago. ALWAYS wait to hear confirmation from the band, not the promoter (they >just want to sell tickets; they don't care what bands really show up). King Crimson is often "promoted" when Robert >has no knowledge or even intention of playing somehwere. And I really asked that asshole 5 times if he is 100% sure that HAWKWIND will play. He said 5 times YES And I asked him 5 times if the band has confirmed their appearance He said 5 times YES Now I know that it was a big pile of shit what he told me I have learned my lesson as well :-((( Bernhard From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 6 17:25:53 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:25:53 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates for June, July & August In-Reply-To: <200505051333.j45DXPwp008636@mail6.atl.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: On May 5, 2005, at 9:33 AM, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM wrote: > No doubt, but I would think that if the Surgeons played in Florida, it > would be during the winter rather than the heat of summer. Maybe you > could convince them to take a working winter break in the Sunshine > State. ;-) After all the snow we had in Germany last February that sounds like a great suggestion. We actually had some clubs that wanted to book us in FL but there was no way we could work it into our routing. From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 6 17:31:47 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 17:31:47 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates for June, July & August In-Reply-To: <20050505025157.67494.qmail@web53909.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On May 4, 2005, at 10:51 PM, gary shindler wrote: > I'd consider Fort Worth if we still live in these > parts. Already met Buck Dharma and it would be cool to > meet Albert. Any other bands on the tour? Not that I'd > know them, most likely. I don't know any of the other bands myself. We may do some dates with American Dog in Ohio after Milwaukee though. Al From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 6 18:20:54 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:20:54 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates for June, July & August In-Reply-To: <20050505163533.LKRK2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On May 5, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Jean Lansford wrote: > Let me get this straight. > > 7/27 in Chapel Hill, NC > 7/28 in Charleston, WV > 7/29 in Greensboro, NC. > > That's quite a detour, there. > > On a positive note, it's a birthday present, Precious. A couple of > days late, but that's cool. :) > > Uh oh, They look close on the big map;-) We'll have to work out "Happy Birthday to You." Al From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat May 7 14:25:34 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:25:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Bergen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 5 May 2005, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > The Robert Calvert Project CD is > finished as well, which is robert reading his poetry and HW putting > backing music to it... sounds cool... That does indeed sound intriguing... I'd heard nothing of this. Any idea anyone what poems are involved? Is this the old Harbour Productions tape used as the basis here? Have I even got that much right? Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From merlinas at BTCONNECT.COM Sat May 7 15:08:04 2005 From: merlinas at BTCONNECT.COM (Dave Bottomley) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 20:08:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Bergen Message-ID: > > The Robert Calvert Project CD is > > finished as well, which is robert reading his poetry and HW putting > > backing music to it... sounds cool... > > That does indeed sound intriguing... I'd heard nothing of > this. Any idea anyone what poems are involved? Well, we've heard HW do "Ode To A Timeflower" in this style in concerts over the past year or so - presumably that'll be on this CD. No further clues, though, I'm afraid. Dave From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 7 15:16:57 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 20:16:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Bergen Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bottomley" > Well, we've heard HW do "Ode To A Timeflower" in this style in concerts over > the past year or so - presumably that'll be on this CD. No further clues, > though, I'm afraid. > > Dave At one point I thought this project sounded a really neat idea, and to be fair it might come off well. But I want them looking forward and finding the new Bob Calvert not glancing backwards and referencing the old (which the new live material sort of does as well). Ian From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun May 8 07:33:49 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 07:33:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Space/Psych/Stoner Rock Radio shows, Alchemical Radio, and new Mail Order Goodies Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com May 7, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS AND MAIL ORDER STOCK We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #126), which is a Goddamn I'm A Countryman label special (The Spacious Mind), The Atomic Bongload (show #11), which is a Nasoni Records label special, and Alchemical Radio (show #86). You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html MAIL ORDER NEWS: The new store is OPEN. I've got the entire God Damn I'm A Countryman label catalog, including the brand new SPACIOUS MIND CD, the brand new live Spacious Mind, and the new Rad Kjetil and the Loving Eye of God. Sample the music on this weeks Space Rock radio show. I've also got several CD's & LP's from the German based Nasoni label, who specialize in Stoner Rock, Psychedelia and Prog-Psych. Sample those titles on this weeks Atomic Bongload show. And I've also got 2 titles from the absolutely amazing space rock/krautrock band, THTX. Still on the way are titles from the Black Widow label, Stone Premonitions, and a couple Alien Dream titles. If you are a band or label and we've discussed carrying your stock... hang in there with me. This first wave is a big hit. I'll be in touch with you for the second wave. Don't forget that I can now acccept VISA or MASTERCARD. Visit the new store at: http://aural-innovations.com/store Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #126): Goddamn I'm A Countryman Label Special Goddamn I'm A Countryman Records is the label run by the Swedish band The Spacious Mind, one of the world's great spaced out psychedelic ensembles, to release their own music and side projects. I've just stocked all their titles in my mail order catalog and have put together this label tribute to give you a killer space rock show as well as the opportunity to sample some of the items in our mail order catalog. Visit the new store at: http://aural-innovations.com/store The Spacious Mind - track 5 (from Rotv?lta) Moon Trotskij - "I Fell But Andromeda Rose to the Stars" (excerpt) (from I Fell But Andromeda Rose to the Stars) The Spacious Mind - "The Drifter" (from Take That Weight Off Your Shoulders: Live Skelleftea 2/28/03) Rad Kjetil and the Loving Eye of God - "Ceres" (from Title Unknown) The Spacious Mind - " Upon Which Areas May The Circles Be Drawn?" (excerpt) (from Live Volume One: Do Your Thing But Don't Touch Ours, Skogsn?s 10/26/99) Jens - "The Hills Are All Flat Now" (from Standing in the Trees I Get Lifted By the Leaves) Rad Kjetil and the Loving Eye of God - "Dal-Jani V?lta"" (from Rad Kjetil and the Loving Eye of God) The Atomic Bongload (show #11): Nasoni Records Label Special Nasoni Records is a German based label that specializes in Stoner Rock, 70's influenced Hard Rock and Psychedelia. They also have a love for Vinyl and while they do release CD's their primary focus is producing some of the most beautiful LP's I've seen in years. Great artwork, solidly made gatefold jackets just like the old days. I've just stocked several of their titles in my mail order catalog and have put together this label tribute to give you a killer show as well as the opportunity to sample some of the items in our mail order catalog. Visit the new store at: http://aural-innovations.com/store Nightstalker - "Silver Shark" (from Just A Burn) The Great Escape - "Don't Waste Your Time" (from Nothing Happens Without A Dream) Weltraumstaunen - "Hofmanns Mahl (The Dwarves Of Yore)" (from Weltraumwelt) Octopus Syng - "Frail Elephant" (From Beyond The Karmadelic Coldness, There's The Lovedelic Warmth) 3Speed Automatic - "Walk On The Sun" (from Villa Rocka) The Moon - "World Full Of Joy" (from In Phase) The Great Escape - "Someone Knows" (from Escape From Reality) Polytoxicomane Philharmonie - "Fuddle Pie & Puddle Lie" (from Plays Psycho Erectus) Siena Root - "Trippin'" (from A New Day Dawning) Drive By Shooting - "Jimmy, Jonny, And You" (from Between Evil And Peace Tour 2005) Loxley Beade - "The Traveller" (from Of Transient Thoughts & Iridescence) The Davolinas - "Destiny" (from Edge Of A New Day) Alchemical Radio (show #86) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends Terri~B and The Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label, and features some of the best Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Metal, and adventurous Pop that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions The Mick Fleetwood Band ? "Walking With The Angels" Nothing 2 Declare ? "Echoes In The Air" National Steam ? "Orion" Nelson Said ? "Dancing Through The Years" Neurotic ? "Bomb Day" Nick Nicely ? "Elegant Daze" Oosterdok ? "Bob?s Lost Day" Patrick Porter ? "Back Of A Promise" Paul Roland ? "Easter 1916" Paul Rose ? "Same Old Reality" Peter Ashby ? "What Is Will Be" Paradox One ? "Edge Of Reality" The Slow Poisoners ? "Bleeding Hearts Of The World Unite" Polytoxicomane Philharmonie ? "Poisonous Moth" Quarkspace ? "Reality Resumed" Radium 88 ? "Before It Disappears" http://Aural-Innovations.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun May 8 21:02:18 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 02:02:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Bergen In-Reply-To: <00a401c55338$1a16c120$98ff8851@aoldsl.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 7 May 2005, Dave Bottomley wrote: > Well, we've heard HW do "Ode To A Timeflower" in this style in concerts over > the past year or so - presumably that'll be on this CD. No further clues, > though, I'm afraid. Failure to think on my part there, yes of course. That's a bit worrying to contemplate, as as that was done in Cambridge at least I thought it lacked any connection with or sensitivity to the material, just a techno piece that would have been interesting by itself but failed to help the words. Oh well. We'll see, or perhaps more likely we won't, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Mon May 9 20:57:49 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:57:49 +0100 Subject: More dodgy CD's on Ebay? Message-ID: they are wrong of course!!!!!!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:52 PM Subject: More dodgy CD's on Ebay? > Rock fever doing Quark/Astounding double: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > ViewItem&category=58609&item=4726819349&rd=1 > > Note that they make the claim that this is a legal release. > > FoFP From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Mon May 9 21:03:31 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 02:03:31 +0100 Subject: Elf & Hawk Message-ID: Or you can buy it from CD Services in UK - e mail me at agcdser at aol.com Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pierluigi Fumi To: Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:00 AM Subject: Re: Elf & Hawk > Pierluigi Fumi wrote: > > > dunno if it's official or not. It is released by blackwidow (here's > > the link: ) > > uhmm... someone eat the link... here it is: > http://www.blackwidow.it/catalog-query.php?ID=26 From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Tue May 10 05:00:04 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 02:00:04 -0700 Subject: HW: OFF: Another note from the north... Message-ID: Hej... (I really find it somewhat amusing that people address you here with a very friendly "Hey!" as if they?ve known you for years...of course, that?s the formal greeting here, but nevertheless it?s quite welcoming. A couple days ago, I would have written Moi, which doesn?t quite have the same effect.) So...I?m in Uppsala, Sweden on my way back to Stockholm and eventually Germany/CH. On Saturday, I saw the Moonshake event (No. 7) in Ume? with Spacious Mind et al. It was a very nice event, though a bit disappointing as not so many people came. (The last one drew about 200 they told me, but this one was below 100.) Also, each band only had 50 minutes to perform on stage, and there were also a few problems with the sound (particularly with Magic Carpathians for some reason...must have been specific to Anna?s guitar amp.) But I still enjoyed the event greatly and met some very nice people there (and also on the way there), who have very similar music collections to mine. Spacious Mind played essentially two long pieces, the type of instrumental cosmic jam that they?ve been doing recently, as heard on Live: Volume One, and a brand new CD that they were selling at the show (can?t remember the title). I got one, and listened to some of it once, and it seemed pretty good. The lineup is hard to figure out, as they have very sparse liner notes, but the main two guys remain Henrik (originally guitar, but now bass) and Jens (keyboards), and the two guitar players are Thomas and Niklas I think. The regular drummer David (?) wasn?t there Saturday, and they had hired somebody as a replacement. I stayed one night with two members of the first band, Kungahuset, obviously a local Ume? band. A very eclectic mix of styles, a bit punkish, a bit psychedelic, a bit goofy, and a bit progressive. One section of their performance was full of freak-out guitar jamming, which was excellent. Jerker, the guitarist, plays one of those weird Danelectro guitars that I remember Jimmy Page playing, the one with that strong, piercing sound. Avarus is a Finnish experimental band that do some pieces with rhythm and some ?sound collages? which are a bit harder to get one?s mind around. They did mostly the latter type on stage, and I preferred some of the things that I heard on one of their recent albums. They have something out on the tUMULt label in San Francisco, which I think is affiliated with Aquarius Records. Circle have some things on the same label. Magic Carpathians had a good performance, marred only by the sound quality. They were just the duo of Anna and Marek from Poland, whereas often they have other guests on stage. A bit of moody drone quality, but the vocals and echoed guitar riffing give the music quite a lot of motion too. I picked up the newest CD, which I think they did some tracks from. My visit with Jussi Lehtisalo from Circle (et al.) was a great time. We spent one full day at his family?s summer cabin on the shore to the south of Pori, and just listened to music and watched strange videos, including some live performance from the old band Haikara. He and Anna are exceedingly nice people, and Jussi seems to know everybody in the entire town (he?s lived in the center of Pori almost his entire life). The town is in some ways quite ordinary, but the people have a high spirit, and occasionally some of them like to drink a little bit. :) Circle is planning some sort of CD/DVD box set release in the future, of all unreleased music plus some sort of film that they?re planning at the moment. I gather from Jussi?s interest in art films and such, that it will be a music soundtrack put to some sort of conceptual visual footage, and not a live concert or anything. Nothing has been started on that front just yet, so it probably won?t appear for awhile. Also, they are going back to southern Germany this summer to play at the 2nd annual ?Faust studio? festival in Scheer, Germany, with other bands like S/T and the various members of Faust in different combinations (Steven Wray Lodbell from the US I think is coming too). That?s on August 12-14, and one can check the Klangbad website to learn more. I?m planning to be there myself. And I might also go to this Festival de Alambic Electrique in France (west of Dijon) to see Here n Now et al. That?s July 30-31. Burg Herzberg?s lineup is now complete, and the one major band that was added is Ozric Tentacles! They I guess are headlining Friday night, to be followed by Nik & Company as the late-night act. Should be interesting. That?s the same time (July 14-17) as that Dour Festival in Belgium that Hawkwind are playing. Now, I saw Bernhard?s story about the ?fake? HW announcement for Love & Peace, but now I?ve seen this list of HW dates in Germany/Austria for the same period. So, are these real? If so, that would be cool...I could catch some of these as well. I just visited the ampitheatre at Loreley 10 days ago or so, it would be an interesting place to see HW perform. Marillion (with Fish) recorded a DVD there many years ago. Of course, this place was built by the NationalSocialists in c. 1938, so it has a bit of history one might say. 6-11 Markthalle, Hamburg 6-12 Kato, Berlin 6-13 Hirsch, Nuenburg 6-15 Planet, Wien (Austria) 6-16 Metropolis, Muenchen 6-18 Waldbuehne, Wueppertal 6-19 Freilichtbuehne, Loreley Was very sorry to read about Pierre Moerlen?s death, especially after we just lost another drummer, Danny Taylor, not too long ago. Man...they?re starting to go more and more every day. Anyway, that?s all from me at the moment. Hope to see some of you on the road soon, either at HW shows in the UK, or at other festivals across the planet. Grakkl (FAA) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! From coral at APORT.RU Tue May 10 05:21:16 2005 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:21:16 +0400 Subject: Bergen Message-ID: By the way... was the computer with pre-recorded tracks on stage or they are back to more live playing? cheers, Alisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" To: Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:34 PM Subject: HW: Bergen Hej All I can say is, what an incredible time. I hung out with Hawkwind and WE the whole day. Did a 30 min interview with the whole band and everyone was in a great mood. Lots of news..... The crowd was really great in Bergen and WE joined Hawkwind for Brainstorm and Masters of the universe. IT was about 90-100 minute long concert and quite similar to the set at Xmas.. Great sound and light show. The band had some technical problems but although quite tired was in a great mood and said funny stuff and played a lot of guitar and was up in the front of the stage most of the concert. Dancers were quite good as well. An unforgetable night... oh yeah..... Take me to your leader has been sent off to have the glass master made and the artwork, so it is in the can now for sure. They would not reveal the record label. It will not take 10 years for the next CD as they already have loads of stuff recorded and have finally after a year mastered Logic 7, which they use for all their production, so things can go much faster. Full interview will appear in german in the moonhead magazine as well as in english at Aural Innovations and maybe lowcut. We will see. It was all filmed on 7 cameras in bergen with 24 track audio.. lets see if they do anything with it.. The new doulbe live CD coming out is the complete Hawkfest 2003 gig. Hawkfest 2005 is probably going to happen over the bank holiday in August but this is not 100% yet. The Robert Calvert Project CD is finished as well, which is robert reading his poetry and HW putting backing music to it... sounds cool... more later, scott PS: Thanks to Ketil for the amazing hospitality and if you ever get a chance in your life, visit Bergen, one of the most beautiful places I have ever been! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 10 06:33:13 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:33:13 +0100 Subject: Elf & Hawk In-Reply-To: Cyberkrel's message of Tue, 10 May 2005 02:03:31 +0100 Message-ID: Cyberkrel writes: > Or you can buy it from CD Services in UK - e mail me at agcdser at aol.com > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pierluigi Fumi > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:00 AM > Subject: Re: Elf & Hawk > > > > Pierluigi Fumi wrote: > > > > > dunno if it's official or not. It is released by blackwidow (here's > > > the link: ) > > > > uhmm... someone eat the link... here it is: > > http://www.blackwidow.it/catalog-query.php?ID=26 So is this a new release with extra tracks or is it the Elf'n'Hawk CD we already all know and love? FoFP From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Tue May 10 08:56:52 2005 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 07:56:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Ltd Picture Disc In-Reply-To: <20050510090004.59088.qmail@web51802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just out of interest, any idea how much the 3 Picture Disc/1 Interview Disc Approved History of Hawkwind thing goes for these days? Just quit the Hawkwind Yahoo group, too much bull going on sadly :-( Rich From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 10 11:41:36 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:41:36 -0400 Subject: HW: Litmus Gigs Message-ID: May 19th - The Underworld, Camden http://www.theunderworldcamden.co.uk/ June 19th - The Tackeroo, Hednesford http://www.tackeroo.com/ June 30th - The Man on the Moon, Cambridge http://www.manonthemoon.freeserve.co.uk August 12th - The Ruskin Arms, East Ham http://www.ruskinarms.co.uk October 7th - The Standard, Walthamstow http://www.standardmusicvenue.co.uk More to come! Colin From gg at SIO4.COM Tue May 10 15:33:14 2005 From: gg at SIO4.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:33:14 +0200 Subject: Elf & Hawk In-Reply-To: <030201c554ff$ddf5e300$7ce98351@andy> Message-ID: Cyberkrel wrote: > Or you can buy it from CD Services in UK - e mail me at agcdser at aol.com argh, already purchased :) Marvellous!! From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue May 10 16:23:58 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:23:58 +0000 Subject: Elf & Hawk In-Reply-To: <115694474.20050510213314@manoweb.com> Message-ID: you can get it from black widow - you'll be able to get a lot more stuff from them soon trev (judge) >Cyberkrel wrote: > > > Or you can buy it from CD Services in UK - e mail me at agcdser at aol.com > >argh, already purchased :) >Marvellous!! From h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET Tue May 10 16:54:36 2005 From: h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET (The Cold War Kid) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:54:36 -0400 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay Message-ID: I've got a copy of this and the sound quality is really good. As for the bonus tracks. Who's Gonna Win The War is the same as the one fron Weird 101 except it has an extra minute of intro ala the version on Levitation and Drug Cabinet Key isthe one from Friends and Relations, except it has a spoken word intro by Bob. So, I guess they can't be taken fron vinyl copies and they must of had access to some kind of master tapes, unless anyone knows where these fuller versions can be found. From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue May 10 17:24:18 2005 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:24:18 +0100 Subject: Ltd Picture Disc Message-ID: I honestly wouldn't know how to price this today. I could be way wrong here but I think the collecting impetus has shifted through the generations a bit and would suggest that Music is now collected for its originality and auditory value - i.e. whether a particular track or piece of music has been issued before or has been issued in a different style or a better quality of the sound. So people collect new music or live music or original tracks that haven't been heard before or variations of mixes of tracks in different musical forms (reggae, dub, rave, club etc). The desire to possess the physical format (vinyl - album covers - picture discs whatever) doesn't seem to be nearly as important except to the old-style of Kollector and most already have fairly complete Hawkwind collections I would guess. All the tracks on the 3 picture discs exist elsewhere and though the interview disc will be of interest, the recent band biographies will probably cover most of what the interview does. On balance therefore I would guess that if you can find a true Kollector who hasn't already got this then they will probably pay whatever you ask but it's also possible that the price you get won't be much more than say ?25 or so. All of this could of course become completely wrong if the new album sells 15 million copies and the band goes on to play a series of stadium venues with constant and continuous media coverage. Your Approved History would then become an item of infinite and indefinite value! So I'd hang on to it if I were you - after all, you never know..... 8-^ bye now jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: HW: Ltd Picture Disc > Just out of interest, any idea how much the 3 Picture Disc/1 > Interview Disc > Approved History of Hawkwind thing goes for these days? > > Just quit the Hawkwind Yahoo group, too much bull going on sadly > :-( > > Rich > > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 10 17:33:22 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:33:22 -0400 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay Message-ID: On Tue, 10 May 2005 16:54:36 -0400, The Cold War Kid wrote: (Regarding the recent pirate Hawklords '25 Years On' CD) >I've got a copy of this and the sound quality is really good. As for the >bonus tracks. Who's Gonna Win The War is the same as the one fron Weird >101 except it has an extra minute of intro ala the version on Levitation There are long & short versions of this one (about 5 minutes & 6 minutes long, respectively, IIRC), and I'm pretty sure that the long version was on F&R vol.1, and on subsequent 'Friends & Relations' CD reissues. >and Drug Cabinet Key isthe one from Friends and Relations, except it has a >spoken word intro by Bob. The vinyl version of "Drug Cabinet Key" on F&R vol.3 has the spoken intro from Bob ("to find the bullet is to win ... I'm going to find the bullet ... and I'm going to win"). Anyone know the source for that quote? Or was it just something that popped into Bob's head? >So, I guess they can't be taken fron vinyl >copies and they must of had access to some kind of master tapes, unless >anyone knows where these fuller versions can be found. Still nothing that would have *necessarily* had to come from master tapes, so still no real resolution there ... So when can we see the LEGITIMATE version of this, with even better bonus tracks?????!? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 10 17:41:17 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:41:17 -0400 Subject: Ltd Picture Disc Message-ID: On Tue, 10 May 2005 22:24:18 +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: >The desire to possess the physical format (vinyl - album covers - >picture discs whatever) doesn't seem to be nearly as important >except to the old-style of Kollector and most already have fairly >complete Hawkwind collections I would guess. All the tracks on >the 3 picture discs exist elsewhere and though the interview disc >will be of interest, the recent band biographies will probably >cover most of what the interview does. It's probably worth mentioning that the audio content of the interview disc is available on the Cleopatra double-CD, 'the Golden Void', from a few years back (a very nice compilation that gathered almost all of the various Flicknife EP's [including 'Night of the Hawks'/'Earth Ritual Preview'] and 'Friends & Relations' tracks onto one set). Except for the super-rare early stuff (Glastonbury Fayre, Sonic Attack 7", US Armed Forces split-LP, Kings of Speed cartoon pic sleeve, euro Hassan 7"s, etc.) it doesn't seem like any Hawkwind vinyl draws particularly high prices these days (even most UA & Charisma 7"s are available pretty inexpensively from dealers) ... certain deleted CD's are another story! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET Tue May 10 18:48:25 2005 From: h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET (The Cold War Kid) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:48:25 -0400 Subject: Hawklords Live Message-ID: Does anyone know if there are any more Hawklords live tracks available other than those on Weird 104 and the Hawklords Live CD? I've had the Weird CD for a while and always thought it was a great performance. Just got Hawklords Live today and can't believe how great it is. Now if only I could persuade Dave Brock to release the whole gig on CD............... From h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET Tue May 10 18:56:52 2005 From: h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET (The Cold War Kid) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:56:52 -0400 Subject: Full Gigs & Re-issues. Message-ID: Has anyone heard of any plans (I'm a bit out of touch with current day Hawkwind matters & new to the list!)to release further live albums in the Weird series or to issue full gigs of any '77, '78 or the Live '79 material? Likewise is there any danger of Quark, PXR5 or Choose your Masques being re-issued? Thanks & regards From h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET Tue May 10 19:04:34 2005 From: h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET (The Cold War Kid) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 19:04:34 -0400 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay Message-ID: I'd forgotten Who's Gonna Win The War was on F&R1 (long time since I listened to that one) so I stand suitably corrected. Couldn't agree more though. An official reissue is long overdue. Dave Brock may of called it "armchair Hawkwind" but along with Quark & PXR5 I thought it was their best album. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 10 19:11:59 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 19:11:59 -0400 Subject: Full Gigs & Re-issues. Message-ID: On Tue, 10 May 2005 18:56:52 -0400, The Cold War Kid wrote: >Has anyone heard of any plans (I'm a bit out of touch with current day >Hawkwind matters & new to the list!) Welcome aboard! >to release further live albums in the >Weird series or to issue full gigs of any '77, '78 or the Live '79 >material? There has already been a full gig from the '79 tour released on Voiceprint (Collector Series vol.1 'Complete 1979'); well worth it if you already liked 'Live 79' and want more. And at one point, Voiceprint prematurely announced the release of a complete gig from the Hawklords '78 tour, but the announcement was later withdrawn :^(. 'Atomhenge 76', also on Voiceprint, is a great document of the tour from that year, although it isn't quite a complete gig (the encore medley is missing). As for 1977, there's *almost* a complete gig if you put all the Weird recordings from that year together, and I'd have to believe that there's more from where the PXR5 live tracks came from, but there have never even been rumors about that stuff being released. It would be GREAT to hear the version of "Waiting For The Man" that they played as an encore that year. For better or worse, there haven't been any "archival" live releases on Voiceprint for a while, and I probably wouldn't expect any more until *at least* several months after the release of the new album (if, indeed, it is actually released). You don't want to compete with "new" product ... >Likewise is there any danger of Quark, PXR5 or Choose your Masques being >re-issued? Nobody seems to have any idea (although there's currently a pirate release of Quark on CD being flogged all over eBay), although the Griffin reissue of 'Choose Your Masques' can be found considerably more easily than any of the Virgin CD's. I agree with you about the Hawklords live. I think that band had the most energy of any Hawkwind lineup, and the Griffin & Weird live CD's are big favorites of mine. In some ways the preceding (House/Shaw/King) and successive (Lloyd-Langton/Blake) lineups were "more talented" (and I especially like the former), but the Hawklords stuff is just really really fun ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Wed May 11 04:25:22 2005 From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:25:22 +0100 Subject: Hawkwing: Passing reference in Guardian Message-ID: http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,,1478304,00.html on the way tastes can change as age accrues. 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BRE Certification Limited, Registered under number 3548352 in England and Wales. Registered Offices: Bucknalls Lane, Garston, Watford, Hertfordshire WD25 9XX From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 11 06:28:40 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:28:40 +0100 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay In-Reply-To: The Cold War Kid's message of Tue, 10 May 2005 16:54:36 -0400 Message-ID: The Cold War Kid writes: > I've got a copy of this and the sound quality is really good. As for the > bonus tracks. Who's Gonna Win The War is the same as the one fron Weird > 101 except it has an extra minute of intro ala the version on Levitation > and Drug Cabinet Key isthe one from Friends and Relations, except it has a > spoken word intro by Bob. So, I guess they can't be taken fron vinyl > copies and they must of had access to some kind of master tapes, unless > anyone knows where these fuller versions can be found. Hmmmmm, nope, nothing in the Codex with those features. Sounds like they do have access to something more, ummmmm, complete. Of course that probably only narrows it down to around 50 suspects but it is interesting that they're from the Weird and F&R stuff. I dunno what my Uncle Sherlock would make of it. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 11 06:33:42 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:33:42 +0100 Subject: Hawklords Live In-Reply-To: The Cold War Kid's message of Tue, 10 May 2005 18:48:25 -0400 Message-ID: The Cold War Kid writes: > Does anyone know if there are any more Hawklords live tracks available > other than those on Weird 104 and the Hawklords Live CD? I've had the > Weird CD for a while and always thought it was a great performance. Just > got Hawklords Live today and can't believe how great it is. Now if only I > could persuade Dave Brock to release the whole gig on CD............... There's the "Live at The Bottom Line" bootleg LP and stuff on PXR5, but that's about it for that period. FoFP From John.Cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK Wed May 11 07:20:47 2005 From: John.Cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK (John Cartledge) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:20:47 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Merchandising Going Upmarket? Message-ID: This summers fashion must have!! http://www.fcukbuymail.com/ProductDetails.aspx?language=en-GB&ProductID=544FI&CategoryID=m_jeanscords On a serious note, isn't the Hawkwind name now copyrighted? Cheers John From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed May 11 07:35:59 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:35:59 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Merchandising Going Upmarket? In-Reply-To: <4281EA8F.7000908@sunderland.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 11/05/2005 12:20, John Cartledge wrote: > This summers fashion must have!! > http://www.fcukbuymail.com/ProductDetails.aspx?language=en-GB&ProductID=544FI&CategoryID=m_jeanscords Probably go well with furry boots :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Wed May 11 07:51:59 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:51:59 -0400 Subject: Full Gigs & Re-issues. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting Doug Pearson : > On Tue, 10 May 2005 18:56:52 -0400, The Cold War Kid > wrote: > >to release further live albums in the > >Weird series or to issue full gigs of any '77, '78 or the Live '79 > >material? > > There has already been a full gig from the '79 tour released on Voiceprint > (Collector Series vol.1 'Complete 1979'); well worth it if you already > liked 'Live 79' and want more. Beware the atrocious sound quality however... -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "You should have seen the curse that flew right by you Page of concrete, stained walks crutch in hobbled sway Auto-da-f?, a capillary hint of red. Only this manupod crescent in shape has escaped" Televators - THE MARS VOLTA From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Wed May 11 08:09:01 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:09:01 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Merchandising Going Upmarket? In-Reply-To: <4281EA8F.7000908@sunderland.ac.uk> Message-ID: Quoting John Cartledge : > This summers fashion must have!! > > http://www.fcukbuymail.com/ProductDetails.aspx?language=en-GB&ProductID=544FI&CategoryID=m_jeanscords > > On a serious note, isn't the Hawkwind name now copyrighted? May not matter if it's not being seen as an attempt to use the name itself to sell product or cause confusion. There used to be a shipping company in Orlando, FL called HawkWind. I remeber the first time I saw that driving by and got very excited. :-) -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "You should have seen the curse that flew right by you Page of concrete, stained walks crutch in hobbled sway Auto-da-f?, a capillary hint of red. Only this manupod crescent in shape has escaped" Televators - THE MARS VOLTA From h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET Wed May 11 09:03:05 2005 From: h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET (The Cold War Kid) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:03:05 -0400 Subject: Full Gigs & Re-issues. Message-ID: Yeah, the Live '79 collectors series has got awful sound. It sounds like an audience tape to me. I hoped it was from the same source as the 'offical' tapes when I got it! At least the Live '82 has gor pretty decent sound. It would be great to hear more of the live material that was on PXR5, although the more versions of High Rise I hear (a bloody great song) the more I'm convinced that the vocals on PXR5 were overdubbed in the studio. From h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET Wed May 11 09:16:18 2005 From: h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET (The Cold War Kid) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:16:18 -0400 Subject: Full Gigs & Re-issues. Message-ID: I agree with you about the energy of the Hawklords live. My favourite line has to be Shaw/House/King. They had a real subtlety and flexability live that hasn't been seen since. The Weird CDs' really show this. The Live '79 lineup had a more streamlined and direct approach which was great to. More archive releases on the Voiceprint label are long overdue IMHO. From h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET Wed May 11 09:24:34 2005 From: h-loopey at FSMAIL.NET (The Cold War Kid) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:24:34 -0400 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay Message-ID: A fine kettle of fish indeed! It is a well put together CD and they've obviously put some thought into it as they've actually picked Hawklords material as the bonus rather just grabbed the first thing they could find. On the CD cover it says "Under licence from Ridgetop Music". Are they the actual owners of the material? Are they peddaling it onto unsuspecting record lables or are Rock Fever playing a game of subtefugue. Curiouser and curiouser said Alice. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed May 11 15:27:21 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:27:21 -0400 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay Message-ID: On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:24:34 -0400, The Cold War Kid wrote: > >On the CD cover it says "Under licence from Ridgetop Music". Are they the >actual owners of the material? Are they peddaling it onto unsuspecting >record lables or are Rock Fever playing a game of subtefugue. >Curiouser and curiouser said Alice. A quick Google search reveals that Ridgetop Music is the name of American folk singer Jesse Colin Young's (ex-Youngbloods, who had a big hit with "Get Together" in the mid-60s) personal indie label - absolutely NOTHING to do with Hawkwind (except perhaps that he released an album on Jefferson Airplane/Starship's boutique label, Grunt, and Jefferson Starship later shared a split LP with Hawkwind that went out to the US Armed Forces radio network around 1974). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From youless at COX.NET Wed May 11 18:22:04 2005 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:22:04 -0400 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay Message-ID: There's another, unrelated one in the UK...details have been forwarded to the band... Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11 May 2005 15:27:21 -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: >A quick Google search reveals that Ridgetop Music is the name of American >folk singer Jesse Colin Young's (ex-Youngbloods, who had a big hit >with "Get Together" in the mid-60s) personal indie label - absolutely >NOTHING to do with Hawkwind (except perhaps that he released an album on >Jefferson Airplane/Starship's boutique label, Grunt, and Jefferson >Starship later shared a split LP with Hawkwind that went out to the US >Armed Forces radio network around 1974). > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed May 11 18:54:10 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:54:10 -0400 Subject: HW: Single & Album Message-ID: + ++ STAR WARRIORS + ++ ++ NEW STUDIO SINGLE: 'Spirit of the Age' RELEASE DATE: 30th August 2005 NEW STUDIO ALBUM: 'Take Me To Your Leader' RELEASE DATE: 12th September 2005 Our new album has great new cover artwork by artist Peter Pracownik, and features contributions from Lene Lovich, Matthew Wright, Simon House, & Arthur Brown. The first 2000 Album copies will have a special 'bonus disc" More details on this will be on Mission Control soon !! + ++ MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + + www.hawkwind.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 12 06:29:13 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:29:13 +0100 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Wed, 11 May 2005 15:27:21 -0400 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > A quick Google search reveals that Ridgetop Music is the name of American > folk singer Jesse Colin Young's (ex-Youngbloods, who had a big hit > with "Get Together" in the mid-60s) personal indie label - absolutely > NOTHING to do with Hawkwind (except perhaps that he released an album on > Jefferson Airplane/Starship's boutique label, Grunt, and Jefferson > Starship later shared a split LP with Hawkwind that went out to the US > Armed Forces radio network around 1974). Ah, but what's the link with Kevin Bacon? FoFP From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Thu May 12 08:53:54 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:53:54 -0400 Subject: Hakwind prices on Ebay In-Reply-To: <200505121029.j4CATDTZ027498@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Quoting M Holmes : > Doug Pearson writes: > > > A quick Google search reveals that Ridgetop Music is the name of American > > folk singer Jesse Colin Young's (ex-Youngbloods, who had a big hit > > with "Get Together" in the mid-60s) personal indie label - absolutely > > NOTHING to do with Hawkwind (except perhaps that he released an album on > > Jefferson Airplane/Starship's boutique label, Grunt, and Jefferson > > Starship later shared a split LP with Hawkwind that went out to the US > > Armed Forces radio network around 1974). > > Ah, but what's the link with Kevin Bacon? They have never been in my kitchen. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "You should have seen the curse that flew right by you Page of concrete, stained walks crutch in hobbled sway Auto-da-f?, a capillary hint of red. Only this manupod crescent in shape has escaped" Televators - THE MARS VOLTA From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu May 12 18:21:30 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 23:21:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Hakwind prices on Ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 May 2005, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2005 09:24:34 -0400, The Cold War Kid > wrote: > > > >On the CD cover it says "Under licence from Ridgetop Music". Are they the > >actual owners of the material? Are they peddaling it onto unsuspecting > >record lables or are Rock Fever playing a game of subtefugue. > >Curiouser and curiouser said Alice. > > A quick Google search reveals that Ridgetop Music is the name of American > folk singer Jesse Colin Young's (ex-Youngbloods, who had a big hit > with "Get Together" in the mid-60s) personal indie label - absolutely > NOTHING to do with Hawkwind (except perhaps that he released an album on > Jefferson Airplane/Starship's boutique label, Grunt, and Jefferson > Starship later shared a split LP with Hawkwind that went out to the US > Armed Forces radio network around 1974). A thought, possibly a daft one, but, who holds the rights to issue these things in the USA that Griffin once had? Could somebody have bought out Rob Godwin? Doesn't explain the bonus tracks, but almost anything off F&R has been bartered and sold so many times that its legality might also be negotiable, no? Just wondering anyway. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Fri May 13 10:38:32 2005 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 00:38:32 +1000 Subject: Sale on eBay Message-ID: Hey guys Don't know if anyone out there has noticed, keeping it secret, hey ;) There's a Hawkwind collector here in Australia dumping a whole lot of collectibles on eBay. Some of it looks OK Allan Sharpe From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 13 11:06:46 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:06:46 +0100 Subject: Sale on Ebay Message-ID: Re the Bruce selling all the Hawkwind stuff on Ebay. Yeah, I just won his collection of 80 clippings from 1971 onwards. Expensive, but hopefully interesting... How come I never see the French Hassan single on sale? I'd bid a frightening sum on that now... FoFP From denis at PTI-INC.DE Fri May 13 14:23:07 2005 From: denis at PTI-INC.DE (DenisR) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 20:23:07 +0200 Subject: HW: Germany-Tour (was: Another note from the north...) In-Reply-To: <20050510090004.59088.qmail@web51802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 10.05.2005, at 11:00, Keith Henderson wrote: > Now, I saw Bernhard?s story about the ?fake? HW announcement for > Love & Peace, but now I?ve seen this list of HW dates in Germany/ > Austria for the same period. So, are these real? If so, that > would be cool...I could catch some of these as well. I just > visited the ampitheatre at Loreley 10 days ago or so, it would be > an interesting place to see HW perform. Marillion (with Fish) > recorded a DVD there many years ago. Of course, this place was > built by the NationalSocialists in c. 1938, so it has a bit of > history one might say. > > 6-11 Markthalle, Hamburg > 6-12 Kato, Berlin > 6-13 Hirsch, Nuenburg > 6-15 Planet, Wien (Austria) > 6-16 Metropolis, Muenchen > 6-18 Waldbuehne, Wueppertal > 6-19 Freilichtbuehne, Loreley Great... Exactly during the time I'll be abroad... :-( (c)IAO D+'aarghl'R From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 13 14:31:05 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:31:05 +0100 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert: Ebay Bandits! Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14732& item=4729167809&rd=1 Flogging a CD boot of the Glastonbury '81 set. There's a veritable flood of Hawkwind bootleg on Ebay now. Dave needs a new Rottweiler or Colin back at Space defence HQ. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 13 14:49:14 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:49:14 +0100 Subject: Germany-Tour (was: Another note from the north...) Message-ID: These are NOT Hawkwind dates; there appears to be some "communication problem" involving the band and the promoter but I am pretty much 100% positive that these are NOT happening. I have talked with both the promoter and Dave Brock about them. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "DenisR" To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: HW: Germany-Tour (was: Another note from the north...) > On 10.05.2005, at 11:00, Keith Henderson wrote: > > > Now, I saw Bernhard?s story about the ?fake? HW announcement for > > Love & Peace, but now I?ve seen this list of HW dates in Germany/ > > Austria for the same period. So, are these real? If so, that > > would be cool...I could catch some of these as well. I just > > visited the ampitheatre at Loreley 10 days ago or so, it would be > > an interesting place to see HW perform. Marillion (with Fish) > > recorded a DVD there many years ago. Of course, this place was > > built by the NationalSocialists in c. 1938, so it has a bit of > > history one might say. > > > > 6-11 Markthalle, Hamburg > > 6-12 Kato, Berlin > > 6-13 Hirsch, Nuenburg > > 6-15 Planet, Wien (Austria) > > 6-16 Metropolis, Muenchen > > 6-18 Waldbuehne, Wueppertal > > 6-19 Freilichtbuehne, Loreley > > Great... > Exactly during the time I'll be abroad... :-( > > (c)IAO > D+'aarghl'R > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 13 14:50:25 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:50:25 +0100 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert: Ebay Bandits! Message-ID: Nah, I am just a poodle these days! Mind you, it is probably me selling them;). Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert: Ebay Bandits! > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14732& > item=4729167809&rd=1 > > Flogging a CD boot of the Glastonbury '81 set. > > > There's a veritable flood of Hawkwind bootleg on Ebay now. Dave needs a > new Rottweiler or Colin back at Space defence HQ. > From denis at PTI-INC.DE Sat May 14 03:59:59 2005 From: denis at PTI-INC.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:59:59 +0200 Subject: Germany-Tour (was: Another note from the north...) In-Reply-To: <003a01c557ec$75b4aac0$6cd1fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: On 13.05.2005, at 20:49, Colin J Allen wrote: > These are NOT Hawkwind dates; there appears to be some "communication > problem" involving the band and the promoter but I am pretty much 100% > positive that these are NOT happening. > > I have talked with both the promoter and Dave Brock about them. Hopefully this mess can be sorted out real soon. They're already selling tickets on the web: and even Eventim, one of Germany's biggest online ticket-traders already sells tickets for the Berlin gig: (c)IAO D'confused'+R From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat May 14 07:45:55 2005 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:45:55 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK, MANDIBLE & SUB-PRIMITIVE: Philadelphia, PA: June 25th!! Message-ID: June 25th brings three great bands together at Philadelphia's Millcreek Tavern!! 4200 Chester Avenue!!! Doors open at 9:30 PM, and will be strictly enforced $7.00 entry fee *first band will start at 10. Headliner 12:15 - end (1:45 curfew) The Millcreek is in the heart of 'University City', and this promises to be a show not to be missed! SLOTERDIJK will headline. We are also happy to introduce MANDIBLE to the greater tri-state area. Philly's own SUB-PRIMITIVE will provide rock solid local support. Visit the Millcreek Tavern website at: http://millcreektavernphilly.com for complete details, or call call: (215) 222-9194 headlining act: SLOTERDIJK ( Hawkwind inspired spacerock-project ) http://www.soundclick.com/sloterdijk http://www.garageband.com/artist/sloterdijk see 'Press Links" at: http://www.freewebs.com/oebs Middle act: Mandible ( DC based experimental 'heavy band' ) http://mandibleband.com http://www.soundclick.com/mandible. local support from: Sub-Primitive ( Philly based krautrock/noise band in the vein of Chrome/Helios Creed ) http://www.sub-primitive.150m.com Formerly the infamous Track & Turf of University City, Philadelphia, Millcreek Tavern promises to live up to its former legacy and take it to the next level. We are University City's only original music venue, Philadelphia's latest hot-spot for live entertainment, great beers and drinks and not to mention one of the finest dining experiences that anyone can offer west of Center City. From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun May 15 05:52:14 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 05:52:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock, Alchemical, and Drool Trough Radio Shows + New Mail Order Goodies Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com May 15, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS AND MAIL ORDER STOCK We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #127), Alchemical Radio (show #87), and Drool Trough (show #30). You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html MAIL ORDER NEWS: The new Spacious Studio CD (Rotvalta) FLEW out the door, and so did the copies of the live Spacious Mind and new Rad Kjetil and the Loving Eye of God, the later two being part of the new Goddamn I?m A Countryman limited edition of 50 CDR series. But I just got some new Rotvalta?s in and a VERY limited quantity of the live Spacious Mind and Rad Kjetil. So grab ?em while they?re available. Also in stock are two Alien Dream CDs, and I grabbed some copies of the Copenhagen Space Rock Festival Compilation and a couple older Korai Orom CDs that I got at a nice price. LOTS more on the way!! Don't forget that I can now acccept VISA and MASTERCARD. Visit the store at: http://aural-innovations.com/store Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #127) Underground Zero ? ?Never Reach The Stars? (from Powerplay) Moonloonies ? ?Chive Om? (from Interceptor) Escapade ? ?4?33?? (from Hall of Mirrors) The Future Kings Of England ? ?Lilly Lockwood? (from The Future Kings Of England) Oresund Space Collective - ? (from band web site) Alien Dream ? ?The First Dawn Of Eternity? (from Lucid Dream) Zolar X ? ?Space Age Love? (from Timeless) Tom Byrne ? ?A Short Life? (recorded Live at Hawkfest 2003) Zone Six ? ?Extremadura? (from Psychedelic Scripture) Ra Can Row ? ?Things Beyond Our Control? (from Ra Can Row) Alchemical Radio (show #87) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends Terri~B and The Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label, and features some of the best Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Metal, and adventurous Pop that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions Karma Down - "Shakedown With The Devil" Rick Ray ? "Chainsaw Manicure" Robert Ziino ? "Ode To Twilight Clones" Robin O? Brien ? "Say You Will" Roll A Penny ? "Black Is The Colour" Ron Noyes Band ? "One-way Ride" Ross Falzone ? "Gotta Get Even" Sasquatch! ? "Drivin? The Jazzmen" Shane Flew ? "Same Old Dream" Simon House ? "For Heaven?s Sake" Smoke & Mirrors ? "Blue Sapphire" Soca Survivors ? "Bounce" Strangers On A Train ? "Three Deep On Cunningham" Flaming Bess ? "Finstere Sonne/Reise Ins Lickt" Space Debris ? "Daydream" Drool Trough (show #30) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. We created Drool Trough because we receive far more submissions at Aural Innovations than we can reasonably have time to review, and we get a lot of cool music that doesn't fit neatly into our more theme oriented radio shows. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. The Other Planets ? ?Living In Harmony With Fuel Efficient Machinary? (from Discrete Manipulations) Don Campau & Kevyn Dymond ? ?Blackberry Popsicle? (from Pen Pals 3) Asteroid B-612 ? ?I Like The Way? (from Two Fist Rock ?N? Roll) The Intercontinental Playboys ? ?The Erotic Circus Of Torment? (from Sonic Seducers) Dino DiMuro ? ?Fuzzy Grandpa? (from Sleeping Highway) Aja West & Cheeba ? ?Cosmic Catnip? (from Flash & Snowball) Dave Dill ? ?Further Up, Further In? (from See You In The Sunshine) Madagascar ? ?Our First Communist Psychic Researcher? 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(from Colossus ADEA) http://Aural-Innovations.com From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun May 15 21:07:55 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 02:07:55 +0100 Subject: Elf & Hawk Message-ID: the one you know and love Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Elf & Hawk > Cyberkrel writes: > > > Or you can buy it from CD Services in UK - e mail me at agcdser at aol.com > > Andy G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Pierluigi Fumi > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 10:00 AM > > Subject: Re: Elf & Hawk > > > > > > > Pierluigi Fumi wrote: > > > > > > > dunno if it's official or not. It is released by blackwidow (here's > > > > the link: ) > > > > > > uhmm... someone eat the link... here it is: > > > http://www.blackwidow.it/catalog-query.php?ID=26 > > > So is this a new release with extra tracks or is it the Elf'n'Hawk CD we > already all know and love? > > FoFP From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 16 16:53:13 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:53:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus, the Underworld, Thursday 19th May Message-ID: Hi, We now have a flyer for this gig on the Litmus website (http://www.litmusmusic.co.uk). If you print this out and bring it along to the Underworld in Camden on Thursday night, you will get in for ?5.00. Not bad for a gig that features Litmus and the infamous Atomic Bitchwax. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "DenisR" To: Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: HW: Germany-Tour (was: Another note from the north...) > On 10.05.2005, at 11:00, Keith Henderson wrote: > > > Now, I saw Bernhard?s story about the ?fake? HW announcement for > > Love & Peace, but now I?ve seen this list of HW dates in Germany/ > > Austria for the same period. So, are these real? If so, that > > would be cool...I could catch some of these as well. I just > > visited the ampitheatre at Loreley 10 days ago or so, it would be > > an interesting place to see HW perform. Marillion (with Fish) > > recorded a DVD there many years ago. Of course, this place was > > built by the NationalSocialists in c. 1938, so it has a bit of > > history one might say. > > > > 6-11 Markthalle, Hamburg > > 6-12 Kato, Berlin > > 6-13 Hirsch, Nuenburg > > 6-15 Planet, Wien (Austria) > > 6-16 Metropolis, Muenchen > > 6-18 Waldbuehne, Wueppertal > > 6-19 Freilichtbuehne, Loreley > > Great... > Exactly during the time I'll be abroad... :-( > > (c)IAO > D+'aarghl'R > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon May 16 17:02:42 2005 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:02:42 +0000 Subject: OFF: Blunty Message-ID: Hello to all, some of you may have heard mention of my 'hard core hip-hop' project, Blunty. Nigel was nice enough to help me upload a few files etc. Now, 'Do Not Panic', I have not, nor will I ever abandon, psychedelic, spacerock music etc, it's just that I consider my approach to music eclectic and there a few 'feelings' & 'emotions' that I found most easily expressed through the hip-hop genre. This is not really a new thing for me, as I came up with Run DMC and others, and always dabbled into 'trip-hop' beats etc. Recently I've been rediscovering many 'Old School' acts, as well as more 'gangsta' type stuff, like Dr. Dre, who's production approached I consider outstanding, irrespective of genre. For me, Dre is like the Eno of Hip-Hop. Dre introduced such notables as Snoop Dogg to the world outside LA, and his hallmarks can be heard on many of the Doggs' cuts, as well as too many other artists to mention here. In short, I find that people often forget that real musicians and producers create the beats and music that back up the more obvious 'raps'. So, now that I've said all that, feel free to check out 'Blunty'. There are two cuts at my new site: http://www.soundclick.com/blunty I hope to see some of you at the Sloterdijk, Mandible, Sub-Primitive showin Philadelphia, June 25th! That is going to be one great show, and we're getting some good press coverage too, so come be part of it!!!!! Peace, Mike PS: I won't be posting any further info about Blunty here, as it's not really relevent, but wanted some of you to know about it and how to access the files From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 18 10:13:19 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:13:19 -0400 Subject: HW: A distant gig............... Message-ID: Friday, October 7th 2005 The Standard Music Venue, 1 Blackhorse Lane Walthamstow E17 6DS Litmus plus Underground Zero Admission: ?7.00 From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed May 18 15:50:59 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:50:59 +0100 Subject: HW: A distant gig............... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 18 May 2005, Colin J Allen wrote: > Litmus > > plus > > Underground Zero Impressive time-travel skills! Does this mean that the UZ website's suggestion that they're all doing other things now is out of date again or is this going to be a one-off? Hurrah for the Standard and its spacerock-friendliness. Maybe Ade Shaw'll come out for UZ... Yours, Jon (who will be there unless, what seems very unlikely, I've got a job in Ireland by then) ObTapeOfLP: Deep Purple - _Shades of Deep Purple_ -- Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 18 16:30:14 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:30:14 +0100 Subject: HW: A distant gig............... Message-ID: Well, this is THE Underground Zero. Will it be a one-off? Who knows...I guess that rather depends on how this night goes. They are active again though; a CD of remastered tracks is being released. To be honest, I only contacted them on the off-chance that they might want to play gigs again..lo and behold, they were up for it! Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: A distant gig............... > On Wed, 18 May 2005, Colin J Allen wrote: > > > Litmus > > > > plus > > > > Underground Zero > > Impressive time-travel skills! Does this mean that the UZ > website's suggestion that they're all doing other things now is out of > date again or is this going to be a one-off? > > Hurrah for the Standard and its spacerock-friendliness. Maybe Ade > Shaw'll come out for UZ... Yours, > Jon (who will be there unless, what > seems very unlikely, I've got a job in Ireland by then) > > ObTapeOfLP: Deep Purple - _Shades of Deep Purple_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error > Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." > London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) > From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu May 19 03:18:53 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:18:53 +0100 Subject: HW: A distant gig............... In-Reply-To: <002701c55be8$65ee8d40$6cd1fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: On 18 May 2005, at 21:30, Colin J Allen wrote: > Well, this is THE Underground Zero. Will it be a one-off? Who > knows...I > guess that rather depends on how this night goes. They are active > again > though; a CD of remastered tracks is being released. > To be honest, I only contacted them on the off-chance that they might > want > to play gigs again..lo and behold, they were up for it! Ah, I wish I could make it. I always thought the few Underground Zero tracks on the HW F&R discs I heard were pretty cool. I really dug "Canes Venetici" (or however it was spelled. Its on the iPod even now! :) Hope the gig and CD go well! Cheers, Carl (who _does_ expect he can make Litmus in Cambridge in June though) -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu May 19 04:29:12 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:29:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Are there any Litmus samples/excerpts online? I'm trying to convince a few people to pry butts off chairs for the Cambridge gig :) The official band site doesn't seem to contain any samples (or they're well hidden) -- then again, the offical site is promoting gigs from last autumn .... Any live recordings out there ... anything? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From merlinas at BTCONNECT.COM Thu May 19 04:55:09 2005 From: merlinas at BTCONNECT.COM (Dave Bottomley) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:55:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus gigs Message-ID: Hi Carl > Are there any Litmus samples/excerpts online? I'm trying to convince a > few people to pry butts off chairs for the Cambridge gig :) The > official band site doesn't seem to contain any samples (or they're well > hidden) -- then again, the offical site is promoting gigs from last > autumn .... Any live recordings out there ... anything? Their set from this year's Roadburn festival can be heard here: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/festivals/media/index.jsp?portal=2534202&even t=21711857 Cheers Dave From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 19 08:42:29 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:42:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Litmus gigs Message-ID: If you go to: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/festivals/media/index.jsp?portal=2534202&even t=21711857 you will find most of the gig at this year's Roadburn Festival. There is also a stream of "Infinity Drive" on the http://www.spacemusic.biz site; just click on the CD cover to get it. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: Re: HW: Litmus gigs > Are there any Litmus samples/excerpts online? I'm trying to convince a > few people to pry butts off chairs for the Cambridge gig :) The > official band site doesn't seem to contain any samples (or they're well > hidden) -- then again, the offical site is promoting gigs from last > autumn .... Any live recordings out there ... anything? > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea at carlaz.com > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Thu May 19 12:08:14 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:08:14 -0700 Subject: HW: Middlesbrough Message-ID: Hi folx... Wow...great gig! In fact, perhaps the best since 1989. Mostly the same as Xmas show, but with a few changes that made a huge difference. Most notably, an excellent version of Paradox, featuring two lead breaks by Dave. And that middle bridge section with the fractured bass riffs from Alan was monster. Nice e-piano intro from Jason too. Also, A&B/Golden Void back too, this time with Where R They Now? coda piece. Angels of Death was faster and therefore more lively. Dancers were the same, but better practiced and with some new routines, eg., martial arts bit during Sword of the East. Nice old opera house with high ceiling, though stage is now shortened so that backdrop was actually rather fairly low. All members in a good mood. Spacehead were solid as opening act. Dumpy was there too, and guested on Bstorm and Silver Machine. No new merchandise to speak of. The xmas single is for sale again though. Crowd could have been larger (300-350?), but it was nice to have some space to move around and choose your own view. Off to Sheffield tomorrow..Grakkl (FAA) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu May 19 12:22:26 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 18:22:26 +0200 Subject: Middlesbrough In-Reply-To: <20050519160814.48288.qmail@web51805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for this review Keith Enjoy the other shows Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Keith Henderson Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:08 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Middlesbrough Hi folx... Wow...great gig! In fact, perhaps the best since 1989. Mostly the same as Xmas show, but with a few changes that made a huge difference. Most notably, an excellent version of Paradox, featuring two lead breaks by Dave. And that middle bridge section with the fractured bass riffs from Alan was monster. Nice e-piano intro from Jason too. Also, A&B/Golden Void back too, this time with Where R They Now? coda piece. Angels of Death was faster and therefore more lively. Dancers were the same, but better practiced and with some new routines, eg., martial arts bit during Sword of the East. Nice old opera house with high ceiling, though stage is now shortened so that backdrop was actually rather fairly low. All members in a good mood. Spacehead were solid as opening act. Dumpy was there too, and guested on Bstorm and Silver Machine. No new merchandise to speak of. The xmas single is for sale again though. Crowd could have been larger (300-350?), but it was nice to h! ave some space to move around and choose your own view. Off to Sheffield tomorrow..Grakkl (FAA) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour From John.Cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK Thu May 19 12:31:56 2005 From: John.Cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK (John Cartledge) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:31:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Middlesbrough Gig Message-ID: Thought a quick review of last night would come in handy. The last gig I saw in Middlesbrough was a certain Mr Calvert back in 85/6 on his Test Tube Conceived tour, so it seemed almost fitting that 20 years later (is it really that long) Hawkwind were the attraction. The venue itself was pretty interesting. All art deco lighting and gothic pillars. The stage was pretty small with a low ceiling so the backdrops were slightly obscured. A somewhat disappointing turnout missed a corking gig. In fact, barring the last Hawkfest this was the best I have seen them for a long time. Spacehead kicked off proceedings and came and went fairly unnoticed by the somewhat sparse (at this point anyway) crowd. After this the number of bodies increased and the usual air of expectancy and excitement started to build. I don't know what it is about this band, as I get as excited now at the prospect of seeing them as I did in my teens. Anyway, at about 8:45 Hawkwind took to the stage and the familiar chords of Spirit of the age started up. Dave at front of the stage looking and sounding great (he's got more energy than me and I'm 20 years younger!). From then on the gig just got better and better with the new tracks sounding good although DB had a few problems with the lyrics on to love a machine. Highlight of the night for me had to be Paradox. They have reworked this with Dave singing the verses over a sparse piano/bass accompaniment before cranking it up for the chorus and riffing/soloing like his life depended on it. I'll add this to the long list of Hawkwind moments that make the hairs stand up on the back of your neck and the shivers go down your spine. Brilliant stuff. Please give this a long run in the setlist. After that it was good to see A&B/GV sequed together as they always should be before going into Where Are They Now. Dumpy was brought on as guest for a fairly manic Brainstorm intercut with Vega. Came back for an excellent Brainbox Pollution and a solid Silver Machine, both of which had my partner (a somewhat reluctant Hawkwind fan) dancing merrily. All in all a really good gig. Dave, Alan & Richard on really good form, with new member Jason fleshing out the sound with some nice keyboard work. At one point in the proceedings the cry went up "You're better than Oasis!" Too right! Set List (beginning and end about right, middle running order not too sure. Approx 2 hours): Spirit of the age Sword of the east Greenback massacre Psychedelic warlords Angela android Assassins of allah Out here we are Paradox To love a machine Angels of death 10th second of forever Assault & battery/golden void Where are they now Brainstorm Vega Brainstorm Brainbox pollution Silver machine Cheers John From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu May 19 14:12:38 2005 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:12:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Sheffield Message-ID: Just a reminder to anyone travelling to Sheffield that there is an FA Cup Final football match on TV from mid-afternoon onwards so any pub with a TV will probably be mobbed - conversely, of course, any pub without will doubtless be empty but the streets will be pretty lively around closing time! cheers jill ====================================== Jill Strobridge ====================================== From webmaster at ANCIENTEUROPE.INFO Thu May 19 14:12:27 2005 From: webmaster at ANCIENTEUROPE.INFO (George Chaplin) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:12:27 +0100 Subject: Middlesbrough In-Reply-To: <20050519160814.48288.qmail@web51805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Totally agree with Keith, esp. it possibly being the best gig since 89. The sound engineering was very good too - something the venue complimented. George Henge Warrior and Hawkfan www.timewatch.org Six psi bands appearing along with 24 others, for free at Thornborough Free Festival - www.thornborough.org Taking another Hawkwind virgin to Sheffield, and the Virgin I took to the last Newcastle gig is coming too! From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 19 14:25:41 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:25:41 +0100 Subject: Sheffield Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: HW: Sheffield > Just a reminder to anyone travelling to Sheffield that there is an > FA Cup Final football match on TV from mid-afternoon onwards so any > pub with a TV will probably be mobbed - Probably by people wanting to watch Dr Who afterwards? From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu May 19 16:26:04 2005 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 21:26:04 +0100 Subject: Sheffield Message-ID: nah - they'll be giving Dr Who a miss this week (or getting the missus to video record it) 'cos as soon as the game is over they'll head straight out to catch Dumpy's Spacenutz and Hawkwind of course! Since Sheffield is a Midlands city with two major league football teams I suspect there'll be a fair amount of Cup interest no matter who is playing. jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Sheffield > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill Strobridge" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:12 PM > Subject: HW: Sheffield > > >> Just a reminder to anyone travelling to Sheffield that there is >> an >> FA Cup Final football match on TV from mid-afternoon onwards so >> any >> pub with a TV will probably be mobbed - > > Probably by people wanting to watch Dr Who afterwards? > > From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 19 17:01:03 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:01:03 +0100 Subject: Sheffield Message-ID: They'll miss the best episode of Dr Who since, well, last week's then! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Sheffield > nah - they'll be giving Dr Who a miss this week (or getting the > missus to video record it) 'cos as soon as the game is over they'll > head straight out to catch Dumpy's Spacenutz and Hawkwind of > course! > > Since Sheffield is a Midlands city with two major league football > teams I suspect there'll be a fair amount of Cup interest no matter > who is playing. > > jill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Abrahams" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: Sheffield > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jill Strobridge" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:12 PM > > Subject: HW: Sheffield > > > > > >> Just a reminder to anyone travelling to Sheffield that there is > >> an > >> FA Cup Final football match on TV from mid-afternoon onwards so > >> any > >> pub with a TV will probably be mobbed - > > > > Probably by people wanting to watch Dr Who afterwards? > > > > > From brian.coulthard at LYCOS.CO.UK Thu May 19 18:04:39 2005 From: brian.coulthard at LYCOS.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:04:39 +0100 Subject: Middlesbrough In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Evening All Agreed a good solid perfomance liked Paradox, I would have liked to hear Digital Nation and that ode to a time Flower in there somewhere. Enjoyed it very much Wolverhampton next. On the flyer I picked up it has the tracklisting for the new album gone is Silver Machine(Good) and there is a new title Sighs appearing -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of George Chaplin Sent: 19 May 2005 19:12 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Middlesbrough Totally agree with Keith, esp. it possibly being the best gig since 89. The sound engineering was very good too - something the venue complimented. George Henge Warrior and Hawkfan www.timewatch.org Six psi bands appearing along with 24 others, for free at Thornborough Free Festival - www.thornborough.org Taking another Hawkwind virgin to Sheffield, and the Virgin I took to the last Newcastle gig is coming too! From neiltoyne at NTLWORLD.COM Thu May 19 18:45:26 2005 From: neiltoyne at NTLWORLD.COM (Neil Toyne) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 23:45:26 +0100 Subject: Middlesbrough Message-ID: Just thought I'd chip in with my agreement to the sentiments expressed over the Middlesbrough gig - thoroughly enjoyable, had two HW virgins with me, both left full of how good the gig had been. They also pointed out how friendly the crowd was - everybody in fine mood and no squabbling over space. Now, do I do Sheffield and/or Notnam? To all those yet to catch this tour - you're in for a treat. Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Chaplin" To: Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Middlesbrough > Totally agree with Keith, esp. it possibly being the best gig since 89. The > sound engineering was very good too - something the venue complimented. > > George > > Henge Warrior and Hawkfan > > www.timewatch.org > > Six psi bands appearing along with 24 others, for free at Thornborough Free > Festival - www.thornborough.org > > Taking another Hawkwind virgin to Sheffield, and the Virgin I took to the > last Newcastle gig is coming too! > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 From GutterCat at AOL.COM Thu May 19 19:38:22 2005 From: GutterCat at AOL.COM (GutterCat at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:38:22 EDT Subject: Christmas... Message-ID: Just got back from Blackburn. The Christmas CD is on sale again. Got my holy grail. Brilliant gig tonight. Dumpy joined at the end. Absolutely superb and I have a loud noise in my left ear. My fault for standing in front of the left speaker stack. Some nice hoodies on sale outside too. Now for some sleep after I listen to the CD. Gotta be at work for 7. Roll and Rock! From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Thu May 19 19:44:23 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 18:44:23 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: Christmas... In-Reply-To: <87.27ee737f.2fbe7d6e@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 19 May 2005 GutterCat at AOL.COM wrote: :Subject: Christmas... : :Just got back from Blackburn. :The Christmas CD is on sale again. Got my holy grail. Brilliant gig tonight. :Dumpy joined at the end. Absolutely superb and I have a loud noise in my :left ear. My fault for standing in front of the left speaker stack. :Some nice hoodies on sale outside too. Are those Hawkwind hoodies? They had fleece jackets last tour 'round. If they have hoodies now, then clearly I need to acquire one ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/ENSS University of Chicago/NSIT/ENSS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #418 Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu May 19 19:46:24 2005 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 19:46:24 -0400 Subject: Christmas... Message-ID: All I have to say is that I'm super- jealous!! Los Angeles is nice, but no live Hawkwind!!! I am going to the Anubian Lights gig in a couple of weeks, so it's not all bad. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of GutterCat at AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 4:38 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Christmas... Just got back from Blackburn. The Christmas CD is on sale again. Got my holy grail. Brilliant gig tonight. Dumpy joined at the end. Absolutely superb and I have a loud noise in my left ear. My fault for standing in front of the left speaker stack. Some nice hoodies on sale outside too. Now for some sleep after I listen to the CD. Gotta be at work for 7. Roll and Rock! From webmaster at ANCIENTEUROPE.INFO Thu May 19 20:03:21 2005 From: webmaster at ANCIENTEUROPE.INFO (George Chaplin) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 01:03:21 +0100 Subject: "Los Angeles is nice," In-Reply-To: <7E0746BA722BC94FA8F48FAB0DF01B6A846E1C@ntguslaexs1.na.jnj.com> Message-ID: Hi, I'm new to the list but I thought I'd make a bold recommendation to everyone who is not currently going to see Hawkwind - do it! When I say the Hawks are playing a blinder this time round I really mean it - this is one of the best tours they have done in a long long time. In fact last night took me right back to the days when they used to play Newcastle City Hall first time round. So, even if you are abroad if you ever want to see Hawkwind again, now's the time to do it. I'm really not exaggerating in any way, with the exception of some of my favourite extras like Tim Blake this is as good as Hawkwind gets - and that is just stunning. George (warrior on the edge of henge) From webmaster at ANCIENTEUROPE.INFO Thu May 19 20:15:11 2005 From: webmaster at ANCIENTEUROPE.INFO (George Chaplin) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 01:15:11 +0100 Subject: "Los Angeles is nice," In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry if this comes through twice, bit of mail trouble. From GutterCat at AOL.COM Thu May 19 20:14:55 2005 From: GutterCat at AOL.COM (GutterCat at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:14:55 EDT Subject: HW: Re: Christmas... Message-ID: In a message dated 20/05/2005 00:44:53 GMT Standard Time, akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU writes: Are those Hawkwind hoodies? They had fleece jackets last tour 'round. If they have hoodies now, then clearly I need to acquire one ;-) The fleeces were official. They are sold out for the moment. The hoodies were sold ou***de and are uno*****al. Nice though. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Fri May 20 07:18:40 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 12:18:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hibachi Dealers, 25 May, Cambridge UK Message-ID: The Hibachi Dealers make their triumphant (?) return to The Man on the Moon in Cambridge UK on Wednesday, 25 May 2005. We're topping the bill, with support from Didiac and the excellently named Free Love & The Good Plant. We have a couple of songs that are more or less space rocky and there's certainly a bit of BOCish influence creeping around (though we still haven't brought "Astronomy" out of the half-arsed rehearsal stage!). See for more info (and really grimy-sounding MP3s!). If the 25 May gig doesn't work out, we'll be back headlining at The Man on the Moon on Friday, 22 July. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 20 12:35:52 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:35:52 +0100 Subject: About the Author Message-ID: Have a look at the "about the author" bit on Sonic Assassins that has suddenly appeared on Amazon.com Forgot I wrote that! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0946719691/qid=1094710084/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl14/002-5622142-0256009?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 20 13:39:21 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:39:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: Christmas... Message-ID: On Thu, 19 May 2005 20:14:55 EDT, GutterCat at AOL.COM wrote: >The fleeces were official. They are sold out for the moment. >The hoodies were sold ou***de and are uno*****al. >Nice though. That segment in Carol Clerk's book made up of accounts by the guy(s) in the band that were the pay-to-play support for Hawkwind sometime in the 80s was pretty worthless IMHO. But the bit about Dave Brock leaving the venue with a can of gasoline and matches to deal with the people selling bootleg t-shirts is priceless and more than compensates for the other half-dozen wasted pages! "Dave Brock was introduced to me on one of the first Hawkwind shows, just as he was heading out the main door with a can of petrol and a box of matches, as he'd heard of some bloke on the corner selling bootleg T-shirts. 'Blimey!' I thought. 'Maybe he has to pay *his* Uncle Rod as well.'" -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Fri May 20 16:30:25 2005 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:30:25 -0500 Subject: About the Author In-Reply-To: <011201c55d59$fcebc6f0$82d44f51@SN037539420006> Message-ID: You'll be Glad to know your book is in a good few Chicago Bookstores :-) Rich -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:36 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: About the Author Have a look at the "about the author" bit on Sonic Assassins that has suddenly appeared on Amazon.com Forgot I wrote that! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0946719691/qid=1094710084/sr=8 -5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl14/002-5622142-0256009?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 20 16:57:13 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 21:57:13 +0100 Subject: About the Author Message-ID: It's certainly better to be in a good few stores than just a few good stores ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: Re: About the Author > You'll be Glad to know your book is in a good few Chicago Bookstores :-) > > Rich > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:36 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: About the Author > > > Have a look at the "about the author" bit on Sonic Assassins that has > suddenly appeared on Amazon.com > > Forgot I wrote that! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0946719691/qid=1094710084/sr=8 > -5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl14/002-5622142-0256009?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 > From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Fri May 20 18:03:37 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 23:03:37 +0100 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I find it sad that there's never much BOC news here! Perhaps we should make some up! ;-) From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Fri May 20 19:25:26 2005 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:25:26 -0600 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <001401c55d87$c604f930$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: > I find it sad that there's never much BOC news here! Perhaps we should > make some up! ;-) You asked for it! Move over Max Bialystock. Broadway's foremost wheeler-dealer in "The Producers" could be joined by another man enamored by big money. Producers Barry and Fran Weissler and Mark Burnett, with an assist from real-estate mogul Donald Trump, are developing a musical based on "The Apprentice," Trump's hit NBC television series. Eric Bloom has just signed on to play the lead in this production. Each musical number will feature cowbell solos. Brad From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri May 20 22:54:59 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 22:54:59 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: Tony wrote: > I find it sad that there's never much BOC news here! Perhaps we should make > some up! ;-) Well, I did find out the other day that there's a prog rock band from the University of Rochester called "More Cowbell". That's BOC-ish, I guess. Oh, and a local classic rock radio station has been boasting of their expanded music library, so I was thinking of requesting "This Ain't the Summer of Love." I figure, if they can't even play a track that's on the same album as Reaper they're just blowing hot air. Brian From jm555 at NECRONOMI.COM Sat May 21 03:31:25 2005 From: jm555 at NECRONOMI.COM (Joseph) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 03:31:25 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <001401c55d87$c604f930$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: I agree. It's really why I joined the listserve! On Fri, 20 May 2005, Tony wrote: > I find it sad that there's never much BOC news here! Perhaps we should make > some up! ;-) > From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Sat May 21 08:14:23 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 05:14:23 -0700 Subject: HW: Middlesbrough In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: ---I wrote: > Hi folx... > > Most notably, > an excellent version of Paradox, featuring two lead > breaks by Dave. And that middle bridge section with > the fractured bass riffs from Alan was monster. Duh...that was the bridge in Psychedelic Warlords, natch. Great that this song has remained in the set, too. Didn`t miss the Letter to Robert bit, nor Digital Nation, really. Paradox and A&B/GV were major improvements. Seems that everyone is pretty much agreed about how good this show is. (A first for BOC-L?) BTW, the show length was almost exactly 90 minutes, plus ~12 minutes for the two-song encore. (Brainbox Pollution/Silver Machine). The only further changes I would suggest now would be The Watcher for Greenback Massacre (though then we`d be getting very little new material), and something like LSD instead of Assassins of Allah (`cause without Palestine there`d be no Tepee material). Perhaps `Right to Decide` for `Brainbox Pollution` would work nicely as well. Perhaps alternating each night as 1st encore or something. But nevertheless, the show is really coming together nicely. If you look at the cities they`re doing this time `round, they`re almost all different than December, so it`s almost like the 2nd half of a complete England tour (no Scotland of course, sorry to say). So it makes sense that they`re doing a similar show, for those that never saw it the first time. And in fact, they get an improved and well rehearsed version for their patience. The other cool thing about Middlesbrough was that the stage was deep enough that they could set up all the monitors etc. back from the edge of the stage to allow the dancers full `run` left and right in front of the players. So they could do flips and cartwheels and stuff. Also, there was a little catwalk piece pointing out into the audience a few feet and they could use that as well for acrobatic bits where the girl/android could be lifted high up off the floor. Sheffield tonight, should be fun. I`m here with Merrick and Julie, very nice people as are all the HW fans I`ve met on the road. (Thanks David B. for hosting me in Newcastle, BTW.) I guess we`ll miss Eurovision song contest on the telly, what a shame. :) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Dave`s back to playing his custom-painted Westone (?) guitar now, and so the old white guitar (that looks a little like a Les Paul, but isn`t...forgot the name) is back on the shelf (or on backup duty) again. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Sat May 21 08:26:39 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 13:26:39 +0100 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <200505210254.j4L2sxSS001896@mail3.atl.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: Summer of Love is on Agents of Fortune which also has DFTR so the station is more likely to have that. You should request something from a more "obscure" album like Imaginos such as "Del Rios Song" or "I Am The One You Warned Me Of". Alternatively, what about "Loofah" or "Devils Hang Nail" (the original version demo of "The Vigil") from The Buck Dharma Archives. T -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Sent: 21 May 2005 03:55 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Never any BOC news! Tony wrote: > I find it sad that there's never much BOC news here! Perhaps we should make > some up! ;-) Well, I did find out the other day that there's a prog rock band from the University of Rochester called "More Cowbell". That's BOC-ish, I guess. Oh, and a local classic rock radio station has been boasting of their expanded music library, so I was thinking of requesting "This Ain't the Summer of Love." I figure, if they can't even play a track that's on the same album as Reaper they're just blowing hot air. Brian From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat May 21 13:48:07 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 13:48:07 -0400 Subject: HW: 2 German Festival Dates Announced ! Message-ID: ++ ++ + STAR WARRIORS + ++ ++ ++ Friday 17th June - "1 Day of Love & Peace" Location: Giessen - Brauerei (Brewery) BRAUEREIGEL?NDE 35396 Giessen, Germany Lineup: Savoy Brown (16.00-16.45) Pavlov's Dog (17.15-18.00) Man (18.30-19.15) Mothers Finest (19.45-20.45) Barclay James Harvest (21.15-22.45) HAWKWIND will be onstage (23.15-00.00) ALL TIMINGS ARE APPROXIMATE. Tickets: 34,90? inclusive all fees / evening (cash only) 36? More Info: www.daysofloveandpeace.de and www.kultopolis.de Saturday 18th June - "3 Days of Love & Peace" (NOTE: Hawkwind play Sat 18th only) Location: LORELEY Loreleyplateau 56348 St. Goarshausen, Germany Festival Info: The wonderful 'free air' stage high over the Rhine Valley on the Loreley will bring a feeling of Woodstock times for three days: From Friday, 17 June to Sunday, 19 June, the "3 Days Of Love and Peace" will showcase many original bands. The Lineup reads itself like the "Who's Who" of music history. Lineup : (Sat 18th) Tom Constanten (Grateful Dead) (10:00-10:30) - Man (10:40-11:30) - Focus (12:00-13:00) - Arthur Brown (13:30-14:30) - Robin Trower (15:00-16:00) Suzanne Vega (16:30-17:30) - 10cc (18:00-19:00) - BJH (19:30-20:30) HAWKWIND will be onstage (21:00-22:30) ALL TIMINGS ARE APPROXIMATE. More Info: www.daysofloveandpeace.de and www.kultopolis.de Dogs may be brought along, but must be kept on a lead. Campers are permitted.Festival visitors also have the option of camping in direct proximity of the event. Children until 12 years in company of an adult have free entrance. For information about camping see : www.daysofloveandpeace.de or 06771.802697 (Germany) Pricing: Daily ticket 29.90 euro (inclusive all fees) 3 day Ticket 59.90 euro (inclusive all fees) Camping ticket (for 3 days) 10 euro (zzgl. fees). For advance booking there is the long-stay combi ticket (ticket for all 3 days inclusive of camping) in limited edition of 500 with the special price of 49,90 euro (inclusive all fees). Maps under ticket Hotline 0171-9172927 and 06861,939980 as well as with all booking offices of CTS and ticket-on-line. Reservations and orders: vorverkauf at kultopolis.de ++ + MESSAGE ENDS ++ + ++ + www.hawkwind.com The world's #1 and official e-source for Hawkwind info Created and maintained by Hawkwind From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Sat May 21 14:22:38 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 14:22:38 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: Tony wrote: > Summer of Love is on Agents of Fortune which also has DFTR so the station is > more likely to have that. Yeah, I'd like to request a song that I love which hasn't been played in the past, yet there's a decent chance they would play it now. If they can't/won't play Summer of Love I know there's no use even requesting something like The Red & The Black, let alone Devil's Hang Nail. By extending their music library, I have a suspicion they might just be playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their rotation instead of 2. We'll see. I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car the other day. That's different for this station--and promising. Brian > You should request something from a more > "obscure" album like Imaginos such as "Del Rios Song" or "I Am The One You > Warned Me Of". Alternatively, what about "Loofah" or "Devils Hang Nail" > (the original version demo of "The Vigil") from The Buck Dharma Archives. > T From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat May 21 14:45:11 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 19:45:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Litmus/Obiat/The Inbreds/The Atomic Bitchwax @ Camden Underworld, 19th May 2005 Message-ID: Dear All, review I wrote for elsewhere as usual, but I thought people might be interested. "Litmus were supposedly on stage at seven. This as ever was a lie, but by the time they did take the stage at seven forty there weren't many people at all in, and this sadly was to be the theme of the night even with The Bitchwax playing, who did at least have some small celebrity connection even if as it seems he (Monster Magnet's lead guitarist) has now left the band. "Anyway. Litmus were not great. A great deal of this down to the kit and the mix; Marek hits the drums pretty hard but had real trouble getting the borrowed kit he was on to sound anything other than plastic; the whole low-end was rather down in the mix so Simon's guitar sounded weirdly sharp and Martin's bass sadly distant; and Andy's organ couldn't be heard at all except apparently by him. That left only the sequencers and synths up at full whack, although Simon's guitar shredded through that. Mid-range thus very full, bottom end indistinct. That said, I'm sure Simon was out of tune, Andy didn't seem to be listening properly either and kept discording, and Martin and Simon seemed to be in different vehicles somehow, attempting to guide the songs by satellite link-up even though they were often staring fixedly at each others' strings. Last couple of times I've seen them they've not had the solid groove they used to throw out at immense pace; this set fairly crackled pace and punk noise with synth backdrop, but rather failed to be actually musical a lot of the time. Also, only four songs, and one of them (only one, but still) under three minutes. Everyone on short sets except the headliners, but I hope I never see Litmus play a shorter or a worse one than that. "Second on were Obiat, who were a very different kettle of fish. As they started I thought they were going to be just a stoner band, albeit one with a very strong sense of rhythm. That rhythm was almost always a slow 4/4, except for one bit where they briefly turned it into an *extremely* slow 4/4. Also, the singer was mostly impressive for the effects on his voice and his facial hair, and I'm sure they had extra stuff on tape somewhere, because I detected tablas and after staring at the drummer for some time I decided he simply wasn't doing enough unless he also had a footboard somewhere I couldn't see it. "However, sod that, they were great. The first song proved misleadingly normal, and even that was pretty unshakeably solid. The second one added extra percussion, the singer delivered several choruses through a megaphone and had some maracas at another point, there was a great deal of effects on everyone's playing (perhaps even on the drums) and it was increasingly trippy. BUT, never lost the almost-doom menace of the rhythm, the riff always maintained somehow even when no-one was actually on it, which is a skill I've always admired, and when the singer started really keening into this echo-drenched mike (an odd sort, presumably designed to pick up from far away) and generally turning his voice into an instrument rather than a words-vehicle, I was left going, "Yes. Yes, I'd do that in your place except I'd never have thought of it." The third and fourth songs (again only four in the set) were as above but more so, more menacing, but still very very dreamy. Dreamy perhaps in the way that a cold Scandinavian lake in a horror film might be before something rises off the bottom of it and eats the hapless swimmers the cameras are following across. I bought the CD from a severely-dressed blond woman with a crew-cut who looked like she should have been Herr Flick's opposite number in Allo' Allo' and all in all this seemed like part of the experience. Apparently half of them are from Poland, one from Germany and one from England--so they moved here. How they formed I'll never know. Anyway. I very much liked them. "The Inbreds appeared to be the `media darlings' of the evening to judge from the reviews they'd got in rock zines and then left on flyers all over the place. I thought they lived up to their name personally, there wasn't a new thing in there. A challenge to the new wave of American heavy metal apparently. Pah. Scissorfight would kick their arses. They had three guitars and sometimes needed two. The singer was a gurning idiot, although reasonable at his job; it was just fronting he shouldn't have been allowed to do. There wasn't anything wrong with it, there were some good bits, they could all play more or less, but they're not worth seeing for themselves IMO. One guy I was talking to said they had no `class', which was odd but true. Thankfully short set here too. "The Atomic Bitchwax played for about an hour twenty, and I do mean played that time, they hardly ever stopped between songs. They were fabulous. New guitarist, looks a lot like the old one but shorter, not as distinctive a voice with the instrument, but this means the rhythm section, which needed no encouragement, stands out further. Everyone plays lead in this band and they're all brilliant, but they still manage to make it look like they're just having a laugh and it's not all that serious, they're just having fun. Bass-player Chris Kosnik introduced two songs as being extra `fun' ones and was quite right. They could play anything, so it's good that they've gone for such agile rapid rock and roll. Set was almost entirely off the first and new albums; if they did anything off the second one I didn't notice it, and I don't have the third one but half of that was off the previous two anyway. They did however do Deep Purple's `Maybe I'm A Leo', which, it suddenly became clear, had really been their song all along, it fits perfectly into the rest of their stuff. Kosnik gets more weird noise out of a Fender than anyone except a couple of quite unusual guitarists, only his is a bass. I gave up trying to dance and just jumped round like an idiot, grinning ear-to-ear. Place was half-full if that for one of the best performances I've ever seen down there. The world's messed up, but I went home pretty happy. "In summary: Litmus--punker-than-ever loud noise spacerock--must get better again. Obiat: Eastern European dreamy doomy stoner, top stuff, do it more. The Inbreds: contemporary metal, please stop and let your betters show you why. The Atomic Bitchwax: temporarily the best damn rock and roll band on the planet, why wasn't everyone else there too eh?" Yours, Jon ObCD: Deep Purple- _Machine Head_ -- Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Sat May 21 15:39:40 2005 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 15:39:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: The Old Gods Return Message-ID: I was at my local library yesterday and came across a novelization of the movie 'Constantine'. I haven't read the Hellblazer comics and had no interest in seeing the movie when it was out, and was going to pass this by, but then noticed it was by John Shirley, so I opened it up out of curiosity. Right up front he puts this quote: "Exactly when the world is not expecting it, exactly when we're sure of ourselves- that's exactly when the Old Gods Return and sweep our cities... BACK INTO HELL!" -Blue Oyster Cult, "The Old Gods Return," from 'Curse of the Hiden Mirror' I'm assuming BOC didn't actually get on the soundtrack or I'm sure it would have been mentioned here, but its nice of JS to plug the band in the book I thought. Stephan From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat May 21 17:47:53 2005 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:47:53 EDT Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: In a message dated 5/21/2005 1:23:24 PM US Eastern Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: Yeah, I'd like to request a song that I love which hasn't been played in the past, yet there's a decent chance they would play it now. If they can't/won't play Summer of Love I know there's no use even requesting something like The Red & The Black, let alone Devil's Hang Nail. By extending their music library, I have a suspicion they might just be playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their rotation instead of 2. We'll see. I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car the other day. That's different for this station--and promising. That's why I got a CD player for my car! Got tired of the ". . . somebody else's favorite song. . ." crap on my local classic rock station. Joe From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat May 21 18:06:47 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:06:47 +0100 Subject: About the Author In-Reply-To: <011201c55d59$fcebc6f0$82d44f51@SN037539420006> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 May 2005, Ian Abrahams wrote: > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0946719691/qid=1094710084/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl14/002-5622142-0256009?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 So we're not to blame you for the loose dog on _Glastonbury 1990_ then, and that's final. Am I right? :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: Obiat - _Accidentally Making Enemies_ (almost but not entirely like the Spacious Mind playing doom, except sadly not as good as they were live and faster than that makes it sound, again sadly) -- Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat May 21 18:08:51 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:08:51 +0100 Subject: BOC: The Old Gods Return In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 21 May 2005, Stephan Forstner wrote: > I'm assuming BOC didn't actually get on the soundtrack or I'm sure it would > have been mentioned here, but its nice of JS to plug the band in the book I > thought. Though sadly with one of the worst lyrics on the album bar `I Just Like To Be Bad'... :-( Has anyone seen the new rhythm section yet, or have we all given up on the band entirely? Do the new guys change anything much about the sound? Less funk and more attack is what I'm hoping to hear, but that could just be me. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sat May 21 18:57:51 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 18:57:51 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: Or for `Luddites' like me, always buy a car with a cassette player!! (Luddite is a friend's term for me, not really accurate, but he thinks it's funny). tim 8>)... JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM wrote: > > In a message dated 5/21/2005 1:23:24 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > > Yeah, I'd like to request a song that I love which hasn't been played in the > past, yet there's a decent chance they would play it now. If they > can't/won't play Summer of Love I know there's no use even requesting something > like > The Red & The Black, let alone Devil's Hang Nail. > > By extending their music library, I have a suspicion they might just be > playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their rotation instead of 2. We'll see. > I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car the other day. That's > different for this station--and promising. > > > > That's why I got a CD player for my car! Got tired of the ". . . somebody > else's favorite song. . ." crap on my local classic rock station. > > Joe From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Sat May 21 19:40:43 2005 From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (Mark Storer) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 00:40:43 +0100 Subject: Sheffield Gig Message-ID: Just got back from Sheffield, and...... Wow! That was just brilliant. Tracks were: Spirit of the age Swords of the east Greenback Massacre Psychedelic Warriors Out here we are Angela Android Assassins of Allah Angels of Death Paradox 10 Seconds of Forever Assault and Battery/Golden Void/Where are you Now Brainstorm (with Dumpy) encore: Silver Machine (also with Dumpy) The Corporation is a small venue, looks like a converted garage or something. Quite full, but not too crowded. Not sure how many people, maybe about 500 or so. Dumpy's solo set went down a treat too. Dave had quite a few problems with his guitar, but Alan, Richard, and Jason kept things moving while he borrowed one of Dumpy's, while his was being fettled. Can't wait for Rock City on Monday!! From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sat May 21 19:52:09 2005 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 19:52:09 -0400 Subject: Sheffield Gig In-Reply-To: <000601c55e5e$824a6ea0$05000100@roobarb> Message-ID: Not to be naive, but who is Jason? I think I read every post, but somehow this one got by me. Thanks, Chris. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Mark Storer Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:41 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Sheffield Gig Just got back from Sheffield, and...... Wow! That was just brilliant. Tracks were: Spirit of the age Swords of the east Greenback Massacre Psychedelic Warriors Out here we are Angela Android Assassins of Allah Angels of Death Paradox 10 Seconds of Forever Assault and Battery/Golden Void/Where are you Now Brainstorm (with Dumpy) encore: Silver Machine (also with Dumpy) The Corporation is a small venue, looks like a converted garage or something. Quite full, but not too crowded. Not sure how many people, maybe about 500 or so. Dumpy's solo set went down a treat too. Dave had quite a few problems with his guitar, but Alan, Richard, and Jason kept things moving while he borrowed one of Dumpy's, while his was being fettled. Can't wait for Rock City on Monday!! From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Sat May 21 20:13:40 2005 From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (Mark Storer) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 01:13:40 +0100 Subject: Sheffield Gig Message-ID: The keyboard player ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Raymond" To: Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Sheffield Gig > Not to be naive, but who is Jason? I think I read every post, but somehow > this one got by me. > Thanks, > Chris. > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Mark Storer > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 7:41 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Sheffield Gig > > > Just got back from Sheffield, and...... > Wow! > That was just brilliant. > > Tracks were: > Spirit of the age > Swords of the east > Greenback Massacre > Psychedelic Warriors > Out here we are > Angela Android > Assassins of Allah > Angels of Death > Paradox > 10 Seconds of Forever > Assault and Battery/Golden Void/Where are you Now > Brainstorm (with Dumpy) > > encore: Silver Machine (also with Dumpy) > > The Corporation is a small venue, looks like a converted garage or > something. > Quite full, but not too crowded. Not sure how many people, maybe about 500 > or so. > Dumpy's solo set went down a treat too. > Dave had quite a few problems with his guitar, > but Alan, Richard, and Jason kept things moving while he borrowed one of > Dumpy's, > while his was being fettled. > > Can't wait for Rock City on Monday!! > From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Sat May 21 20:28:55 2005 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 18:28:55 -0600 Subject: BD Archives In-Reply-To: <001901c55e00$56a741a0$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: > Alternatively, what about "Loofah" or "Devils Hang Nail" > (the original version demo of "The Vigil") from The Buck Dharma Archives. Anyone here have BD's Archives? Any comments about the stuff there, how good it is, etc? Brad From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Sat May 21 20:33:40 2005 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 18:33:40 -0600 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <200505211822.j4LIMcXf030013@mail5.atl.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: > If they can't/won't play Summer of Love I know there's no use even requesting something like The Red & The Black I lived in Fresno, CA in 1981-82. They had a decent rock station there and I used to request "The Red and The Black". After a few calls the DJ told me that they were not going to play it because "it was not a radio song". I asked him what the hell that meant, but he couldn't give me a good answer. I think he thought I would just accept that and go away. I guess it worked, because I did. Brad From asg at MVDBASE.COM Sat May 21 22:52:06 2005 From: asg at MVDBASE.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 04:52:06 +0200 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <4300.155.100.151.28.1116722020.squirrel@mail.wirelessbeehive.com> Message-ID: > I used to request "The Red and The Black". After a few calls the DJ > told me that they were not going to play it because "it was not a radio > song". I asked him what the hell that meant, but he couldn't give me a > good answer. It likely was supposed to mean something like "nobody cares about that song except BOC fans"... :-o Alex. -- --------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : prog.xrs.net / rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sat May 21 23:21:08 2005 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (StevenTice at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:21:08 EDT Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: In a message dated 05/21/2005 5:49:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM writes: By extending their music library, I have a suspicion they might just be playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their rotation instead of 2. We'll see. I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car the other day. That's different for this station--and promising. A friend of mine was surprised to hear She's as Beautiful as a Foot on the radio a couple of days ago. :-) SET From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Sun May 22 01:20:33 2005 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:20:33 -0600 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <1a1.344882cc.2fc154a4@aol.com> Message-ID: > A friend of mine was surprised to hear She's as Beautiful as a Foot on the radio a couple of days ago. :-) I'm sure the DJ was fired within the hour. Anyone remember Z-Rock back in the 80's broadcasting from Texas? Those guys used to play a lot of "deep cuts" from a variety of rock albums. Great DJ personalities too. Remember the days when a new album would come out and the DJ would play the whole thing to give you a taste? How about Frazer Smith on KROQ in LA in the late 70's, playing whatever he wanted (and being funny as hell), rarely any normal radio fare? Those were the days. Brad From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun May 22 02:20:36 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 07:20:36 +0100 Subject: About the Author Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 11:06 PM Subject: Re: About the Author > On Fri, 20 May 2005, Ian Abrahams wrote: > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0946719691/qid=1094710084/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl14/002-5622142-0256009?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 > > So we're not to blame you for the loose dog on _Glastonbury 1990_ > then, and that's final. Am I right? :-) Yours, > Jon Yep, that's my get out of jail free card - I wasn't there, and neither was my dog! Ian From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Sun May 22 04:44:42 2005 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:44:42 +0000 Subject: HW: 2 German Festival Dates Announced ! Message-ID: With HW touring at the moment is there any chance they will be Motorhead's special guests at Hammersmith for the 30th anniversary show next month? I guess it's unlikely as they are playing in Germany the next day though. Eddie. >From: Rik Rx >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: 2 German Festival Dates Announced ! >Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 13:48:07 -0400 > >++ ++ + STAR WARRIORS + ++ ++ ++ > >Friday 17th June - "1 Day of Love & Peace" >Location: Giessen - Brauerei (Brewery) >BRAUEREIGEL?NDE 35396 Giessen, Germany >Lineup: Savoy Brown (16.00-16.45) Pavlov's Dog (17.15-18.00) Man >(18.30-19.15) Mothers Finest (19.45-20.45) Barclay James Harvest >(21.15-22.45) >HAWKWIND will be onstage (23.15-00.00) ALL TIMINGS ARE APPROXIMATE. >Tickets: 34,90? inclusive all fees / evening (cash only) 36? >More Info: www.daysofloveandpeace.de and www.kultopolis.de >Saturday 18th June - "3 Days of Love & Peace" (NOTE: Hawkwind play Sat 18th >only) >Location: LORELEY Loreleyplateau 56348 St. Goarshausen, Germany >Festival Info: The wonderful 'free air' stage high over the Rhine Valley on >the Loreley will bring a feeling of Woodstock times for three days: From >Friday, 17 June to Sunday, 19 June, the "3 Days Of Love and Peace" will >showcase many original bands. The Lineup reads itself like the "Who's Who" >of music history. >Lineup : (Sat 18th) Tom Constanten (Grateful Dead) (10:00-10:30) - Man >(10:40-11:30) - Focus (12:00-13:00) - Arthur Brown (13:30-14:30) - Robin >Trower (15:00-16:00) >Suzanne Vega (16:30-17:30) - 10cc (18:00-19:00) - BJH (19:30-20:30) >HAWKWIND will be onstage (21:00-22:30) ALL TIMINGS ARE APPROXIMATE. >More Info: www.daysofloveandpeace.de and www.kultopolis.de >Dogs may be brought along, but must be kept on a lead. Campers are >permitted.Festival visitors also have the option of camping in direct >proximity of the event. Children until 12 years in company of an adult have >free entrance. For information about camping see : >www.daysofloveandpeace.de >or 06771.802697 (Germany) > >Pricing: Daily ticket 29.90 euro (inclusive all fees) 3 day Ticket 59.90 >euro (inclusive all fees) Camping ticket (for 3 days) 10 euro (zzgl. fees). >For advance booking there is the long-stay combi ticket (ticket for all 3 >days inclusive of camping) in limited edition of 500 with the special price >of 49,90 euro (inclusive all fees). Maps under ticket Hotline 0171-9172927 >and 06861,939980 as well as with all booking offices of CTS and >ticket-on-line. Reservations and orders: vorverkauf at kultopolis.de > > ++ + MESSAGE ENDS ++ + ++ + > >www.hawkwind.com > >The world's #1 and official e-source for Hawkwind info >Created and maintained by Hawkwind From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Sun May 22 05:39:35 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 10:39:35 +0100 Subject: The Old Gods Return In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One of John Shirley's first novels was called The Transmaniacon MC and is filled with BOC references. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Stephan Forstner Sent: 21 May 2005 20:40 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: BOC: The Old Gods Return I was at my local library yesterday and came across a novelization of the movie 'Constantine'. I haven't read the Hellblazer comics and had no interest in seeing the movie when it was out, and was going to pass this by, but then noticed it was by John Shirley, so I opened it up out of curiosity. Right up front he puts this quote: "Exactly when the world is not expecting it, exactly when we're sure of ourselves- that's exactly when the Old Gods Return and sweep our cities... BACK INTO HELL!" -Blue Oyster Cult, "The Old Gods Return," from 'Curse of the Hiden Mirror' I'm assuming BOC didn't actually get on the soundtrack or I'm sure it would have been mentioned here, but its nice of JS to plug the band in the book I thought. Stephan From greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM Sun May 22 12:47:38 2005 From: greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM (David and Manami Greenhalgh) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 17:47:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? Message-ID: I may be a long way behind the times here, but... At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai covering Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? (Actually if it was Jamiroquai, I may not wish to admit i recognized the style.) Dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun May 22 14:55:41 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:55:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? In-Reply-To: <89d664247c9fbc5e8734455ee0fed0d3@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: > At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence > backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai covering > Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have thought, though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have to work very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it actually is :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ -- Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Sun May 22 15:06:53 2005 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 15:06:53 -0400 Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?UkU6IFJlOiBOZXZlciBhbnkgQk9DIG5ld3Mh?= Message-ID: With consolidation the way it is, many of us in different parts of the country are actually listening to the same classic rock station, music-wise. That's because they really ARE being programmed by the same few people. My guess is that it would be futile to request anything that's not a hit song and/or recognizable to at least a slight perceived majority of the listening audience. Corporate radio simply will not stray from that path. As for a station actually having a copy of "Agents of Fortune", I doubt it. If "Reaper" isn't saved on a station hard drive as a solo track, I just about guarantee it exists on either one of BOC's many unnecessary comps, or on some kind of "Super HIts of the '70s" crap disc. Sorry to be so negative, but I've worked in radio for a while now, and classic rock the way people on a list like this would define it has long been in hibernation. My local "classic rock" station plays "Boys of Summer" and "Invisible Touch" without irony or apology. Shameful. --Nick >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Sent: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:47:53 > >In a message dated 5/21/2005 1:23:24 PM US Eastern >Standard Time, >blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > >Yeah, I'd like to request a song that I love which >hasn't been played in the >past, yet there's a decent chance they would play >it now. If they >can't/won't play Summer of Love I know there's no >use even requesting something like >The Red & The Black, let alone Devil's Hang Nail. > >By extending their music library, I have a >suspicion they might just be >playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their >rotation instead of 2. We'll see. >I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car >the other day. That's >different for this station--and promising. > > > >That's why I got a CD player for my car! Got tired >of the ". . . somebody >else's favorite song. . ." crap on my local classic >rock station. > >Joe From greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM Sun May 22 15:11:25 2005 From: greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM (David and Manami Greenhalgh) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:11:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have to admit I have never heard of them. I think I need to have a dig around the iTMS for this one. Cheers Dave On 22 May 2005, at 19:55, Jon Jarrett wrote: > On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: > > >> At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence >> backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai >> covering >> Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? >> > > That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have > thought, > though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have > to work > very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it > actually > is :-) Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular > error > Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good > author." > London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", > 1646) > From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Sun May 22 15:12:31 2005 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 15:12:31 -0400 Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?UkU6IFJlOiBOZXZlciBhbnkgQk9DIG5ld3Mh?= Message-ID: If I recall, Steven, you're central PA like me. Did your friend hear "Foot" locally? If so, it had to be on Penn State radio. There's no way the Bus would play that. --Nick >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >From: StevenTice at AOL.COM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Sent: Sat, 21 May 2005 23:21:08 > >In a message dated 05/21/2005 5:49:28 PM Eastern >Daylight Time, >JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM writes: > >By extending their music library, I have a >suspicion they might just be >playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their >rotation instead of 2. We'll >see. >I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car >the other day. That's >different for this station--and promising. > > > >A friend of mine was surprised to hear She's as >Beautiful as a Foot on the >radio a couple of days ago. :-) > >SET From asg at MVDBASE.COM Sun May 22 17:17:26 2005 From: asg at MVDBASE.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 23:17:26 +0200 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <200505221912.j4MJCV3522910272@www1502.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: This is old news, but I figure it's better than no news, lol, and since I just saw "The Frighteners" now for the first time... I was pleasantly surprised to hear "Don't fear the reaper" playing over the end credits, though it didn't sound like the original version or even BOC at all. As it turns out, it's a cover by a New Zealand band called the Mutton Birds. There's a short thread about it on IMDB, if anyone's interested/curious -- at least the song seems to have prompted a few people to look up some BOC stuff, heheh: http://imdb.com/title/tt0116365/board/nest/7450906 Alex. -- --------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : prog.xrs.net / rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Sun May 22 18:13:43 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:13:43 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: Nick wrote: > My guess is that it would be futile to request anything that's not a hit song and/or recognizable to at least a slight perceived majority of the listening audience. Corporate radio simply will not stray from that path. You're probably right. WCMF has been around at least 30 years, but they're also owned by Infinity Broadcasting. I just went to their website, and they're letting people vote for their "top 500" songs, which will be played as a special show. Each visitor gets to vote for 10 songs from a list provided by the station. Counting my votes, BOC has 3 votes for DFtR and BFY, and 2 votes for Godzilla. There aren't any other BOC songs to choose from. Bob Segar has 18 songs.... The current leader in the voting is Dokken's "Alone Again" with 2061 votes! A friend of mine once told me that she and her friends used to use "Dokken" as an insult in high school. If something was really heinous, it was "Suckin' like Dokken." Oh well. > As for a station actually having a copy of "Agents of Fortune", I doubt it. If "Reaper" isn't saved on a station hard drive as a solo track, I just about guarantee it exists on either one of BOC's many unnecessary comps, or on some kind of "Super HIts of the '70s" crap disc. I've heard the Cult Classic version of Reaper many times on the radio. I wonder if they even realize the songs are re-recorded and not just a straight best-of. Hmmm, now that I think of it, if they have CC then they also have "Summer of Love," albeit the 1994 version. > My local "classic rock" station plays "Boys of Summer" and "Invisible Touch" without irony or apology. Shameful. On the top 500 voting list: No "Invisible Touch," but at least 3 Phil Collins' Genesis songs. No "Boys of Summer," but Henley's "Dirty Laundry" is listed. Brian From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun May 22 18:47:35 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:47:35 -0400 Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?UkU6IFJlOiBOZXZlciBhbnkgQk9DIG5ld3Mh?= Message-ID: Speaking of which...when did classic rock decide to encompass the 80s??? Isn't classic rock supposed to be the era when rock was...oh I don't know...CLASSIC!! tim 8>)... nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM wrote: > > My local "classic rock" station plays "Boys of Summer" and "Invisible Touch" > without irony or apology. Shameful. > > > --Nick > >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- > >From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >Sent: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:47:53 > > > >In a message dated 5/21/2005 1:23:24 PM US Eastern > >Standard Time, > >blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > > > >Yeah, I'd like to request a song that I love which > >hasn't been played in the > >past, yet there's a decent chance they would play > >it now. If they > >can't/won't play Summer of Love I know there's no > >use even requesting something like > >The Red & The Black, let alone Devil's Hang Nail. > > > >By extending their music library, I have a > >suspicion they might just be > >playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their > >rotation instead of 2. We'll see. > >I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car > >the other day. That's > >different for this station--and promising. > > > > > > > >That's why I got a CD player for my car! Got tired > >of the ". . . somebody > >else's favorite song. . ." crap on my local classic > >rock station. > > > >Joe From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Sun May 22 22:59:08 2005 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:59:08 -0400 Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?T0ZGOiAgV2hhdCBpcyBDbGFzc2ljIFJvY2s/Pz8gIFdhczogIE5ldmVyIGFueSBCT0MgbmV3cyE=?= Message-ID: My wife is getting really tired of me saying, "In the '80s, I was listening to classic rock INSTEAD OF this". . . whenever one of those songs, or something similar, comes on the radio. I guess my definition of classic rock is pretty much stuff from the mid-'60s through the '70s. But the definition gets fuzzy, because if a classic rock station wanted to play some Deep Purple or BOC from the '80s, that counts for me, too. On the other hand, guys like Phil Collins, Steve Winwood and Don Henley totally DON'T count, because their '80s output was top 40 pop CRAP. But that's just my opinion. So how DO we define classic rock? I'm curious what everybody else thinks. --Nick >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >From: Tim >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Sent: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:47:35 > >Speaking of which...when did classic rock decide to >encompass the 80s??? Isn't classic rock supposed to >be the era when rock was...oh I don't >know...CLASSIC!! >tim 8>)... >nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM wrote: > > > > My local "classic rock" station plays "Boys of >Summer" and "Invisible Touch" > > without irony or apology. Shameful. > > > > > > --Nick > > >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- > > >From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > > >Sent: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:47:53 > > > > > >In a message dated 5/21/2005 1:23:24 PM US >Eastern > > >Standard Time, > > >blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > > > > > >Yeah, I'd like to request a song that I love >which > > >hasn't been played in the > > >past, yet there's a decent chance they would >play > > >it now. If they > > >can't/won't play Summer of Love I know there's >no > > >use even requesting something like > > >The Red & The Black, let alone Devil's Hang >Nail. > > > > > >By extending their music library, I have a > > >suspicion they might just be > > >playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their > > > >rotation instead of 2. We'll see. > > >I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my >car > > >the other day. That's > > >different for this station--and promising. > > > > > > > > > > > >That's why I got a CD player for my car! Got >tired > > >of the ". . . somebody > > >else's favorite song. . ." crap on my local >classic > > >rock station. > > > > > >Joe From asg at MVDBASE.COM Sun May 22 23:39:50 2005 From: asg at MVDBASE.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 05:39:50 +0200 Subject: OFF: What is Classic Rock??? In-Reply-To: <200505230259.j4N2x8nl25640646@www1502.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: > So how DO we define classic rock? I'm curious what everybody else thinks. I think we tend to idealize the term and think of it too often as the rock from the 70's. Perhaps because it's what we listen to the most, or grew up listening, or whatnot. Radio stations though need to evolve. They can't play 70's stuff forever on a classic rock station (at least they can't play JUST that forever). So I think it would be more reasonable to say that 'classic rock' should be any rock song from the past that has had some some of influence and/or mediatic success at one point or another. It *would* have to be rock though, obviously, or it would defeat the whole purpose... so Steve Winwood or Phil Collins do seem quite out of context -- even if connections to classic rock can be drawn in both cases, but that would be quite a stretch... I'm sure that's probably the logic behind those artists getting aired though (if there is any logic to be found at all... oh scratch that, let's say 'excuse' rather then 'logic', lol). Anyway, that's my two cents. Alex. -- --------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : prog.xrs.net / rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon May 23 04:32:12 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:32:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi , ITV way back said that the F1 program music was by Jamiroquai. However i missed Sundays race and would suspect its the same unless they have decided to change the music to a version of motorhead. As Jon says it would be most likely be the Corduroy Acid Jazzed up version. Corduroy were a F**king fantastic band, and its with great tongue in cheek that they did Motorhead, much like James taylor Quartet do many covers in the live set.... Tiz a pity this country never grabbed the Corduroy records, and instead put up with the extremely watered down pop bollocks that is Jamiroqai. but then we've heard this all before with hawkwind haven't we. regards iain Jon Jarrett wrote on 5/22/2005, 7:55 PM: > On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: > > > At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence > > backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai covering > > Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? > > That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have > thought, > though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have to > work > very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it actually > is :-) Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error > Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." > London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) > -- Iain Ferguson - Networks AOL UK Desk: +44 (0) 117 9278 071 Mbl: +44 (0) 771 266 1993 From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon May 23 05:15:34 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:15:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: What is Classic Rock??? In-Reply-To: <200505230539.50318.asg@mvdbase.com> Message-ID: On 23/05/2005 04:39, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > Radio stations though need to evolve. They can't play 70's stuff forever on a > classic rock station (at least they can't play JUST that forever). > So I think it would be more reasonable to say that 'classic rock' should be > any rock song from the past that has had some some of influence and/or > mediatic success at one point or another. I realized this was the way of it when _Classic Rock_ magazine in the UK starting covering lots of stuff that had been going on in the 80s, and I realized that whether I liked it or not, Guns'n'Roses had been canonized as a "classic" rock band! (Well, I guess they had a couple of decent songs ....) And to think that when I was a teenager, I reckoned deeming rock from the 70s as classic was suspect -- how could it be classic if it hadn't been from the 60s!? Then I realized that "classic rock" was what people who are currently dads listened to before they were dads :) But since I never listen to the radio, I guess the music industry can put their labels wherever they like, since I'll seldom run into them :) Cheers, Carl ps - speaking of what may or may not be related to "classic rock", has anyone heard anything from the new Bruce Dickinson solo album? I somehow never got into Maiden back when I was the right age to get into Maiden like all my friends, but Bruce's _Chemical Wedding_ solo album in the '90s blew me away (most of it, anyhow). If the new one's even almost as good, I'll be happy :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From coral at APORT.RU Mon May 23 06:04:26 2005 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:04:26 +0400 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? Message-ID: a bit off... but I remember to be very surprised when I've heard You Shouldn't do that (live version I guess) on FIA F1 1972 review! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Ferguson" To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > Hi , > > ITV way back said that the F1 program music was by Jamiroquai. > > However i missed Sundays race and would suspect its the same unless they > have decided to change the music to a version of motorhead. As Jon says > it would be most likely be the Corduroy Acid Jazzed up version. > > Corduroy were a F**king fantastic band, and its with great tongue in > cheek that they did Motorhead, much like James taylor Quartet do many > covers in the live set.... > > Tiz a pity this country never grabbed the Corduroy records, and instead > put up with the extremely watered down pop bollocks that is Jamiroqai. > > but then we've heard this all before with hawkwind haven't we. > > regards > iain > > Jon Jarrett wrote on 5/22/2005, 7:55 PM: > > > On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: > > > > > At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence > > > backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai covering > > > Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? > > > > That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have > > thought, > > though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have to > > work > > very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it actually > > is :-) Yours, > > Jon > > > > ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ > > -- > > Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular error > > Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good author." > > London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", 1646) > > > > -- > Iain Ferguson - Networks AOL UK > Desk: +44 (0) 117 9278 071 > Mbl: +44 (0) 771 266 1993 > From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Mon May 23 09:13:54 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:13:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: The Old Gods Return In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoting Stephan Forstner : > I was at my local library yesterday and came across a novelization of the > movie 'Constantine'. I haven't read the Hellblazer comics For the most part it's a really good series, ESPECIALLY the early run. Lately it's been a bit hit-or-miss, but it has picked up a bit lately. Definitely check out the early run available in Graphic Novel form. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "I am the storm that won't be calmed, I am the calm that follows. I'm in the stars that fill your sky and when I choose, I'll be in your thoughts, I'll be in your dreams, all the light you see, all the air you breathe." Light and Space - THRESHOLD From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon May 23 09:58:23 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:58:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: What is Classic Rock??? Message-ID: Carl wrote: > Then I realized that "classic rock" was what people who are currently > dads listened to before they were dads :) That's a great description! Classic Rock is growing with the years. People are getting older, but the prized demographic (18- to 49-year-old males in the case of Classic Rock) remains the same. So the stations add bands like Guns 'n' Roses and Nirvana to their rotation. In a couple of years, we'll probably hear Green Day's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" as an example of "classic" rock. On a side note, there's a new Clear Channel owned station in town that is harkening back to old AOR stations. They'll play a Dixie Chicks song, followed by '80s pop, followed by Rush. Of course you still don't get any album cuts, but it's nice to see radio begin loosening the rigidity of their formats. There's another question. Is the random way people listen to music on their MP3 players having this effect on radio station programming? Rambling on, Brian > But since I never listen to > the radio, I guess the music industry can put their labels wherever they > like, since I'll seldom run into them :) > > Cheers, > Carl > > ps - speaking of what may or may not be related to "classic rock", has > anyone heard anything from the new Bruce Dickinson solo album? I > somehow never got into Maiden back when I was the right age to get into > Maiden like all my friends, but Bruce's _Chemical Wedding_ solo album in > the '90s blew me away (most of it, anyhow). If the new one's even > almost as good, I'll be happy :) > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > mailto:cea at carlaz.com > http://www.carlaz.com/ > From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Mon May 23 10:16:07 2005 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:16:07 +0100 Subject: Sheffield Gig Message-ID: To echo Mark Storer's words - Wow, what a gig Mark seemed to have the set list about right from what I can remember. The venue (Corporation) was the smallest venue I've seen HW play. At first, I was disappointed that there'd be no dancers, and the *very* low ceiling would limit the lightshow. I was wrong, the lights were fine, and the band were amazing. Dumpy was, well Dumpy. We all love 'im, nuff said. >From the moment HW hit the stage, it was obvious that the band were in an excellent mood. Dave's guitar failed in the first number, but where that might have been frustrating, the band just shrugged & got on with it. It was a very hot gig, in all ways, AD commenting that'it was like 'playing in a sauna'. Dave seemed especially happy, and put a lot of feeling into his singing, and when his borrowed guitar was all sorted, he gave it full dose on that front aswell. I've never seen Richard so chatty either, maybe the intimate nature of the gig helped in that respect. It was up there as one of the best gigs I've seen HW do. Neil. -- Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44(0)1773 537000 From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon May 23 10:15:54 2005 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John Swartz) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:15:54 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <200505220900.j4M8iuYQ011732@www.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: >>I find it sad that there's never much BOC news here! Perhaps we should > > make > >>some up! ;-) Maybe so. I haven't heard much news about the band, other than the new rhythm section (and that's OLD news now). Lots of tourdates over the summer though posted at www.blueoystercult.com though. >> >>I was at my local library yesterday and came across a novelization of the >>movie 'Constantine'. I haven't read the Hellblazer comics and had no >>interest in seeing the movie when it was out, and was going to pass this >>by, but then noticed it was by John Shirley, so I opened it up out of >>curiosity. Right up front he puts this quote: >> >> "Exactly when the world is not expecting it, >> exactly when we're sure of ourselves- >> that's exactly when the Old Gods Return >> and sweep our cities... >> BACK INTO HELL!" >> -Blue Oyster Cult, "The Old Gods Return," >> from 'Curse of the Hiden Mirror' >> >>I'm assuming BOC didn't actually get on the soundtrack or I'm sure it would >>have been mentioned here, but its nice of JS to plug the band in the book I >>thought. You do realize, that John Shirley wrote those lyrics for BOC? >> Has anyone seen the new rhythm section yet, or have we all given >>up on the band entirely? Haven't given up, but haven't had the opportunity to see the new rhythm seciton yet. > Do the new guys change anything much about the >>sound? Less funk and more attack is what I'm hoping to hear, but that >>could just be me. Just you I think. Yeah, Danny could funk it up on ocassion, but I thought that the Miranda/Rodinelli rhythm section was very attack driven most of the time (although John Miceli and in particular Chuck Burgi may have been more so). >> > By extending their music library, I have a suspicion they might just be >> > playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their rotation instead of 2. We'll see. >> > I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car the other day. That's >> > different for this station--and promising. Mr. Big? >> >>Anyone here have BD's Archives? Any comments about the stuff there, how >>good it is, etc? Depends on your definition of "good". The quality of the songs are for the most part very good, but much of it is very un-BOCish. I find the stuff more interesting than anything else - to hear the original demos of what became BOC songs. But, I'll never prefer listening to "Hold Me Tight" rather than "Lips in the Hills". Still, there are some gems in there for the BOC fan. >> >>>I used to request "The Red and The Black". After a few calls the DJ >>>told me that they were not going to play it because "it was not a radio >>>song". I asked him what the hell that meant, but he couldn't give me a >>>good answer. >> >> >>It likely was supposed to mean something like "nobody cares about that song >>except BOC fans"... :-o Which also means, "we only take requests of songs that have been played regularly on the radio in the past, because our listeners would never want to listen to something 'original'". John From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon May 23 10:26:37 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:26:37 +0100 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <4291E59A.6060603@mitre.org> Message-ID: >>>> I used to request "The Red and The Black". After a few calls the DJ >>>> told me that they were not going to play it because "it was not a radio >>>> song". I asked him what the hell that meant, but he couldn't give me a >>>> good answer. >>> >>> It likely was supposed to mean something like "nobody cares about >>> that song except BOC fans"... :-o > > Which also means, "we only take requests of songs that have been played > regularly on the radio in the past, because our listeners would never > want to listen to something 'original'". I would have assumed it meant: "That's not our approved list of what we're supposed to play." I have always assumed -- probably naively and idealistically -- that DJs are often pretty cool music fans and accordingly frustrated with the lameness of the format programming that they get stiffed with (but that having a job toeing the line as a corporate stooge DJ beats being a penniless deadbeat booted off the station for playing anything unauthorized). But then that may just be my na?vet? and idealism shining through :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon May 23 10:58:31 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:58:31 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: I wrote: > >> > By extending their music library, I have a suspicion they might just be > >> > playing 5 Led Zep songs over and over in their rotation instead of 2. We'll see. > >> > I did hear "30 Days in the Hole" while in my car the other day. That's > >> > different for this station--and promising. John questioned: > Mr. Big? I answer: Humble Pie Brian obCD> Gov't Mule, "Live With a Little Help from Our Friends" From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon May 23 11:27:06 2005 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:27:06 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: On Mon, 23 May 2005 10:15:54 -0400, John Swartz wrote: >>> "Exactly when the world is not expecting it, >>> exactly when we're sure of ourselves- >>> that's exactly when the Old Gods Return >>> and sweep our cities... >>> BACK INTO HELL!" >>> -Blue Oyster Cult, "The Old Gods Return," >>> from 'Curse of the Hiden Mirror' > >You do realize, that John Shirley wrote those lyrics for BOC? Sure, and I was thinking that any fans of the movie who might pick up some BOC because of this would also be putting some further royalties into JS' pocket! Stephan From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Mon May 23 11:44:10 2005 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:44:10 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: > >>>> I used to request "The Red and The Black". After a few > >>>> calls the DJ told me that they were not going to play it > >>>> because "it was not a radio song". I asked him what the > >>>> hell that meant, but he couldn't give me a good answer. > >>> > >>> It likely was supposed to mean something like "nobody > >>> cares about that song except BOC fans"... :-o > > > > Which also means, "we only take requests of songs that > > have been played regularly on the radio in the past, > > because our listeners would never want to listen to > > something 'original'". > >I would have assumed it meant: "That's not our approved list >of what we're supposed to play." I have always assumed -- >probably naively and idealistically -- that DJs are often >pretty cool music fans and accordingly frustrated with the >lameness of the format programming that they get stiffed with >(but that having a job toeing the line as a corporate stooge >DJ beats being a penniless deadbeat booted off the station >for playing anything unauthorized). It could also mean that they're one of the increasing number of stations that don't have a CD player in the booth. I keep hearing stories of musicians who show up to radio interviews with their latest CD only to learn that the DJ has no way of playing a cut from it. Rock-n-roll is dead. Album rock, anyway. From asg at MVDBASE.COM Mon May 23 12:12:22 2005 From: asg at MVDBASE.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:12:22 +0200 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <20050523154410.OFBD26760.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: > It could also mean that they're one of the increasing number > of stations that don't have a CD player in the booth. I keep > hearing stories of musicians who show up to radio interviews > with their latest CD only to learn that the DJ has no way of > playing a cut from it. They should move with the times, then, and come in with a digital copy of the album. USB keys (or whatever they're called) can work miracles :-) > Rock-n-roll is dead. > > Album rock, anyway. You mean AOR? ;-) As the Royalists would say... Rock is dead! Long live Rock! Alex. -- --------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : prog.xrs.net / rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- From greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM Mon May 23 15:31:19 2005 From: greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM (David Greenhalgh) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:31:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? In-Reply-To: <020e01c55f7e$cd43ae50$35f3fea9@ghostwheel3> Message-ID: Actually, it's turning out to be a good week for unexpected Hawkwind. The BBC is on strike today, so instead of P.M. (News and current affairs for the none UK people) we got Annie Nightingale's history of UK festivals giving us the unlikely opportunity to hear Nik Turner give an interview and Hawkwind perform on primetime Radio 4. I missed the program the first time round, so a good listen for me. Dave On 23 May 2005, at 11:04, Alisa wrote: > a bit off... but I remember to be very surprised when I've heard You > Shouldn't do that (live version I guess) on FIA F1 1972 review! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Iain Ferguson" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > > >> Hi , >> >> ITV way back said that the F1 program music was by Jamiroquai. >> >> However i missed Sundays race and would suspect its the same unless >> they >> have decided to change the music to a version of motorhead. As Jon >> says >> it would be most likely be the Corduroy Acid Jazzed up version. >> >> Corduroy were a F**king fantastic band, and its with great tongue in >> cheek that they did Motorhead, much like James taylor Quartet do many >> covers in the live set.... >> >> Tiz a pity this country never grabbed the Corduroy records, and >> instead >> put up with the extremely watered down pop bollocks that is Jamiroqai. >> >> but then we've heard this all before with hawkwind haven't we. >> >> regards >> iain >> >> Jon Jarrett wrote on 5/22/2005, 7:55 PM: >> >>> On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: >>> >>>> At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence >>>> backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai > covering >>>> Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? >>> >>> That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have >>> thought, >>> though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have to >>> work >>> very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it > actually >>> is :-) Yours, >>> Jon >>> >>> ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ >>> -- >>> Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular >>> error >>> Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good > author." >>> London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", > 1646) >>> >> >> -- >> Iain Ferguson - Networks AOL UK >> Desk: +44 (0) 117 9278 071 >> Mbl: +44 (0) 771 266 1993 >> > From Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM Mon May 23 15:50:38 2005 From: Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:50:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? Message-ID: & we're back from the wilderness that is Yahoo.... If anybody watches Top Gear (top show), did you notice that in the new series which started last night, The Stig is listening to Prog Rock now? Fingers crossed and here's hoping. Also, if you go to their website you can vote for best driving tune. Big votes for Motorway City methinks...... Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Greenhalgh" To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:31 PM Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > Actually, it's turning out to be a good week for unexpected Hawkwind. > > The BBC is on strike today, so instead of P.M. (News and current > affairs for the none UK people) we got Annie Nightingale's history of > UK festivals giving us the unlikely opportunity to hear Nik Turner give > an interview and Hawkwind perform on primetime Radio 4. > > I missed the program the first time round, so a good listen for me. > > Dave > > > On 23 May 2005, at 11:04, Alisa wrote: > >> a bit off... but I remember to be very surprised when I've heard You >> Shouldn't do that (live version I guess) on FIA F1 1972 review! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Iain Ferguson" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:32 PM >> Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? >> >> >>> Hi , >>> >>> ITV way back said that the F1 program music was by Jamiroquai. >>> >>> However i missed Sundays race and would suspect its the same unless >>> they >>> have decided to change the music to a version of motorhead. As Jon >>> says >>> it would be most likely be the Corduroy Acid Jazzed up version. >>> >>> Corduroy were a F**king fantastic band, and its with great tongue in >>> cheek that they did Motorhead, much like James taylor Quartet do many >>> covers in the live set.... >>> >>> Tiz a pity this country never grabbed the Corduroy records, and >>> instead >>> put up with the extremely watered down pop bollocks that is Jamiroqai. >>> >>> but then we've heard this all before with hawkwind haven't we. >>> >>> regards >>> iain >>> >>> Jon Jarrett wrote on 5/22/2005, 7:55 PM: >>> >>>> On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: >>>> >>>>> At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence >>>>> backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai >> covering >>>>> Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? >>>> >>>> That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have >>>> thought, >>>> though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have to >>>> work >>>> very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it >> actually >>>> is :-) Yours, >>>> Jon >>>> >>>> ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ >>>> -- >>>> Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular >>>> error >>>> Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good >> author." >>>> London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", >> 1646) >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Iain Ferguson - Networks AOL UK >>> Desk: +44 (0) 117 9278 071 >>> Mbl: +44 (0) 771 266 1993 >>> >> > From neiltoyne at NTLWORLD.COM Mon May 23 17:00:27 2005 From: neiltoyne at NTLWORLD.COM (Neil Toyne) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:00:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? Message-ID: That's another vote then - how about a concerted effort from everyone - not that I want to dictate your votes of course.. Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Kirwan" To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > & we're back from the wilderness that is Yahoo.... > > If anybody watches Top Gear (top show), did you notice that in the new > series which started last night, The Stig is listening to Prog Rock now? > Fingers crossed and here's hoping. Also, if you go to their website you can > vote for best driving tune. Big votes for Motorway City methinks...... > > Sam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Greenhalgh" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:31 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > > > > Actually, it's turning out to be a good week for unexpected Hawkwind. > > > > The BBC is on strike today, so instead of P.M. (News and current > > affairs for the none UK people) we got Annie Nightingale's history of > > UK festivals giving us the unlikely opportunity to hear Nik Turner give > > an interview and Hawkwind perform on primetime Radio 4. > > > > I missed the program the first time round, so a good listen for me. > > > > Dave > > > > > > On 23 May 2005, at 11:04, Alisa wrote: > > > >> a bit off... but I remember to be very surprised when I've heard You > >> Shouldn't do that (live version I guess) on FIA F1 1972 review! > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Iain Ferguson" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:32 PM > >> Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > >> > >> > >>> Hi , > >>> > >>> ITV way back said that the F1 program music was by Jamiroquai. > >>> > >>> However i missed Sundays race and would suspect its the same unless > >>> they > >>> have decided to change the music to a version of motorhead. As Jon > >>> says > >>> it would be most likely be the Corduroy Acid Jazzed up version. > >>> > >>> Corduroy were a F**king fantastic band, and its with great tongue in > >>> cheek that they did Motorhead, much like James taylor Quartet do many > >>> covers in the live set.... > >>> > >>> Tiz a pity this country never grabbed the Corduroy records, and > >>> instead > >>> put up with the extremely watered down pop bollocks that is Jamiroqai. > >>> > >>> but then we've heard this all before with hawkwind haven't we. > >>> > >>> regards > >>> iain > >>> > >>> Jon Jarrett wrote on 5/22/2005, 7:55 PM: > >>> > >>>> On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence > >>>>> backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai > >> covering > >>>>> Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? > >>>> > >>>> That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have > >>>> thought, > >>>> though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have to > >>>> work > >>>> very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it > >> actually > >>>> is :-) Yours, > >>>> Jon > >>>> > >>>> ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ > >>>> -- > >>>> Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular > >>>> error > >>>> Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good > >> author." > >>>> London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", > >> 1646) > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Iain Ferguson - Networks AOL UK > >>> Desk: +44 (0) 117 9278 071 > >>> Mbl: +44 (0) 771 266 1993 > >>> > >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005 From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon May 23 18:33:47 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:33:47 -0400 Subject: Off:Psytrax Message-ID: Picked this up from Jerry K over at Aural Innovations, great compilation of "Space/Psych/Stoner Rock" First in a series apparently, can't wait for the next one. Litmus, Space Mirrors,,Alien Dream,Dr Hasbeen,Helios Creed,ST37,etc, 14 tracks worth of some really neat stuff. And only $4; get yourself one or two (1 for a friend). tim 8>)... ps...devised and assembled by Andy G (is that our Andy G??).Good job Andy From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon May 23 19:53:13 2005 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:53:13 EDT Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: In a message dated 5/22/2005 6:04:40 PM US Eastern Standard Time, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: Speaking of which...when did classic rock decide to encompass the 80s??? Isn't classic rock supposed to be the era when rock was...oh I don't know...CLASSIC!! Depends all on how one defines 'Classic Rock' I guess. I'd go for 30-odd years (I was a kid in the 70s). I don't want to think that the music from my high school years (80-83) is 'classic.' (except for BOC) Joe From greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM Tue May 24 15:36:24 2005 From: greenhalgh.david at NTLWORLD.COM (David Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:36:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? In-Reply-To: <017601c55fda$721bf030$6401a8c0@neildf262e81ac> Message-ID: As if... another vote cast. Actually by 13 month old was pogo-ing (well, bouncing slightly and going "Urrrrr") to Motorway City earlier. On 23 May 2005, at 22:00, Neil Toyne wrote: > That's another vote then - how about a concerted effort from everyone > - not > that I want to dictate your votes of course.. > > Neil > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Kirwan" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > > >> & we're back from the wilderness that is Yahoo.... >> >> If anybody watches Top Gear (top show), did you notice that in the new >> series which started last night, The Stig is listening to Prog Rock >> now? >> Fingers crossed and here's hoping. Also, if you go to their website >> you > can >> vote for best driving tune. Big votes for Motorway City >> methinks...... >> >> Sam >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Greenhalgh" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:31 PM >> Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? >> >> >>> Actually, it's turning out to be a good week for unexpected Hawkwind. >>> >>> The BBC is on strike today, so instead of P.M. (News and current >>> affairs for the none UK people) we got Annie Nightingale's history of >>> UK festivals giving us the unlikely opportunity to hear Nik Turner >>> give >>> an interview and Hawkwind perform on primetime Radio 4. >>> >>> I missed the program the first time round, so a good listen for me. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> On 23 May 2005, at 11:04, Alisa wrote: >>> >>>> a bit off... but I remember to be very surprised when I've heard You >>>> Shouldn't do that (live version I guess) on FIA F1 1972 review! >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Iain Ferguson" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 12:32 PM >>>> Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi , >>>>> >>>>> ITV way back said that the F1 program music was by Jamiroquai. >>>>> >>>>> However i missed Sundays race and would suspect its the same unless >>>>> they >>>>> have decided to change the music to a version of motorhead. As Jon >>>>> says >>>>> it would be most likely be the Corduroy Acid Jazzed up version. >>>>> >>>>> Corduroy were a F**king fantastic band, and its with great tongue >>>>> in >>>>> cheek that they did Motorhead, much like James taylor Quartet do >>>>> many >>>>> covers in the live set.... >>>>> >>>>> Tiz a pity this country never grabbed the Corduroy records, and >>>>> instead >>>>> put up with the extremely watered down pop bollocks that is >>>>> Jamiroqai. >>>>> >>>>> but then we've heard this all before with hawkwind haven't we. >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> iain >>>>> >>>>> Jon Jarrett wrote on 5/22/2005, 7:55 PM: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a >>>>>>> sequence >>>>>>> backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai >>>> covering >>>>>>> Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? >>>>>> >>>>>> That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have >>>>>> thought, >>>>>> though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I >>>>>> have to >>>>>> work >>>>>> very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it >>>> actually >>>>>> is :-) Yours, >>>>>> Jon >>>>>> >>>>>> ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular >>>>>> error >>>>>> Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good >>>> author." >>>>>> London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia >>>>>> Epidemica", >>>> 1646) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Iain Ferguson - Networks AOL UK >>>>> Desk: +44 (0) 117 9278 071 >>>>> Mbl: +44 (0) 771 266 1993 >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: >> 22/05/2005 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 22/05/2005 > From charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET Tue May 24 17:40:30 2005 From: charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET (Chas) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:40:30 +0100 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: Well, it is Albert's birthday today (although not strictly news) - So, many happy returns, Al. ........Charlie (CtGB). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: Never any BOC news! > I find it sad that there's never much BOC news here! Perhaps we should make > some up! ;-) From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Tue May 24 17:56:47 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:56:47 +0100 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <012d01c560a9$367d0670$10fa0750@ODLaptop> Message-ID: Many happy returns to the finest drummer ever to drum in Blue Oyster Cult before 1981 (and if I'm ass-kissingly honest after 1981 too!) -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Chas Sent: 24 May 2005 22:41 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Never any BOC news! Well, it is Albert's birthday today (although not strictly news) - So, many happy returns, Al. ........Charlie (CtGB). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: Never any BOC news! > I find it sad that there's never much BOC news here! Perhaps we should make > some up! ;-) From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 24 22:45:38 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:45:38 -0400 Subject: Never any BOC news! In-Reply-To: <000201c560ab$7bbe4b70$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: On May 24, 2005, at 5:56 PM, Tony wrote: > Many happy returns to the finest drummer ever to drum in Blue Oyster > Cult > before 1981 (and if I'm ass-kissingly honest after 1981 too!) > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On > Behalf Of Chas > Sent: 24 May 2005 22:41 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Never any BOC news! > > Well, it is Albert's birthday today (although not strictly news) - So, > many > happy returns, Al. > Thanks all. I celebrated by seeing the Minutemen documentary "We Jam Econo." It was great and highly recommended. Plus Meltzer is in it and they talk about BOC. Al From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed May 25 09:23:38 2005 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:23:38 +0100 Subject: Never any BOC news! Message-ID: Coincidentally, I went to see Mike Watt play a show here in Belfast last week and as a final encore he played The Red And The Black. Stonking. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Bouchard" > Thanks all. I celebrated by seeing the Minutemen documentary "We Jam > Econo." It was great and highly recommended. Plus Meltzer is in it and > they talk about BOC. > Al From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri May 27 14:42:15 2005 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:42:15 +0000 Subject: An Evening of 'Heavy Music': Philadelphia, PA: June 25th 2005 Message-ID: Greetings friends, the lineup for this event is complete..We hope to see some of you there. If you enjoy the 'classic' Sloterdijk tunes from the first three albums ( plus some additional spacerock tunes), then this is a show you should come see. Sloterdijk will be playing a heavier set than usual and relying on all the guitar driven tunes that you may know. Also I'd like to see you all show some support for Mandible, a band I am personally endorsing and trying to prop up in the tri-state area. They are originally from South Carolina but have recently relocated to Washington DC. I think you'll find them enjoyable. Of course, it's great to be on the same bill with Sub-Primitive, and I know they'll be doing a great set as well. We look forward to working with Bob Lennon again ( haven't since he was in Scattered Planets). Jae-Won Lee rounds out the ticket and starts things off at 10:00PM..Check out the detailed information provided below...Peace, Mike Burro SLOTERDIJK ( Hawkwind related spacerock project ) >http://www.soundclick.com/sloterdijk >http://www.garageband.com/artist/sloterdijk >see 'Press Links" at: http://www.freewebs.com/oebs > >Mandible ( DC based experimental 'heavy band' ) >http://mandibleband.com >http://www.soundclick.com/mandible. > > >Sub-Primitive ( Philly based krautrock/noise band in the vein of Chrome/Helios Creed ) >http://www.sub-primitive.150m.com > LEE, JAE-WON http://www.myspace.com/leejaewon http://leejaewon.dmusic.com/ Quick reference Date: Saturday, June 25, 2005 Price: $7 ($2 off with student ID) Doors: 9:30 Lineup: 10:00 - 10:30 (30 minutes) Lee, Jae-Won 10:45 - 11:15 (30 minutes) Sub Primitive 11:30 - 12:00 (30 minutes) Mandible 12:15 - end (1:45 curfew) Sloterdijk Millcreek Tavern 42nd and Chester Ave. 21+ ( No Exceptions!!! ) Phone: 215-222-9194 venue website: http://www.millcreektavernphilly.com or contact Ben Morgan at: booking at millcreekphilly.com -------------------------- ------------------------- 2.GETTING TO THE SHOW WHERE IS THE MILLCREEK? -4200 Chester Ave is the corner building on the southwest corner of 42nd St. and Chester, which is a block south of Baltimore Ave. It has large windows and may be dark inside if you are the first band to arrive. If the venue is locked, you may enter through the adjacent entrance on Chester Ave - the two bars are connected. The new room is real nice and they are still working a lot on the building at the moment. Don't worry, its already really comfortable in there. Septa access is very good. Directions at http://millcreektavernphilly.com/directions.html Phone: 215-222-9194 WHERE DO WE PARK? -It is very easy to find on street parking. There is currently construction going on the block so most of the No Parking signs are for the day hours only. 43rd street is usually empty in the evening. -If you have trouble finding a spot try to stay on the south side of Baltimore Ave as it gets harder to find parking closer to campus. -Pay attention to where the trolley tracks are, because if you block the corners where they turn you will be towed. ------------------------- ------------------------- WHERE IS THE MILLCREEK? -4200 Chester Ave is the corner building on the southwest corner of 42nd St. and Chester, which is a block south of Baltimore Ave. It has large windows and may be dark inside if you are the first band to arrive. If the venue is locked, you may enter through the adjacent entrance on Chester Ave - the two bars are connected. The new room is real nice and they are still working a lot on the building at the moment. Don't worry, its already really comfortable in there. Septa access is very good. Directions at http://millcreektavernphilly.com/directions.html Phone: 215-222-9194 There is food and table service available and every night they have drink specials so ask your bartender. They have many fine beers on tap as well as options for the drinker on a budget. Every night $2.50 domestic bottles/$6 domestic pitchers / $2.50 well drinks 10pm - Midnight From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri May 27 15:50:15 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:50:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? Message-ID: The name of the band is Cordurouy (prob spelt wrong) - I happen to have the album for my sins. Andy G ----- Original Message ----- From: David and Manami Greenhalgh To: Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > I have to admit I have never heard of them. I think I need to have a > dig around the iTMS for this one. > > Cheers > > Dave > > On 22 May 2005, at 19:55, Jon Jarrett wrote: > > > On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: > > > > > >> At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence > >> backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai > >> covering > >> Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? > >> > > > > That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have > > thought, > > though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have > > to work > > very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it > > actually > > is :-) Yours, > > Jon > > > > ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ > > -- > > Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular > > error > > Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good > > author." > > London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", > > 1646) > > From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri May 27 16:02:16 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:02:16 +0100 Subject: Off:Psytrax Message-ID: Why thank you - yes - that's my project. It is rather neat the way it's turned out - although Suzie assures me she'll sound less stoned on the next one!! It's done as a non profit making venture to help the bands sell albums and hopefuly something you'll enjoy playing rather than just play once and stuff in a drawer!!- and that unreleased Jerry Richards track is just a blast. Next one will have an exclusive track from Harvey Bainbridge and, hopefully, one from Space Mirrors, among others - should be out in about 6 weeks. Your support is welcome - you can pick it up in the USA from AI or from the Dead Earnest website for Paypal customers or CD Services for credit card customers and retailers in Europe can source it from Clear Spot Distribution in Netherlands. Thanks once again for the kind comments Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:33 PM Subject: Off:Psytrax > Picked this up from Jerry K over at Aural Innovations, great compilation of "Space/Psych/Stoner Rock" First in a series apparently, can't wait for the next one. Litmus, Space Mirrors,,Alien Dream,Dr Hasbeen,Helios Creed,ST37,etc, 14 tracks worth of some really neat stuff. And only $4; get yourself one or two (1 for a friend). > tim 8>)... > ps...devised and assembled by Andy G (is that our Andy G??).Good job Andy From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat May 28 06:55:10 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 06:55:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock, Progressive and Electronic Music Radio Shows + New Mail Order Goodies Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com May 28, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS AND MAIL ORDER GOODIES We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #128), The Atomic Bongload (show #12), The Electronic Cottage (show #13), and Alchemical Radio (show #89). See the playlists below. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html MAIL ORDER NEWS: New items in the store include lots of CD's & LP's from the Italian based Black Widow label, which specializes in both Space Rock and heavy Progressive Rock. Check out this week?s Atomic Bongload radio show for tracks from each of the releases we?ve got in stock. Visit the store at: http://aural-innovations.com/store Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #128) Grimble Grumble ? ?Fall? (from Leaves Leader) Arnold Mathes ? ?The Unfolding? (from The Unfolding) Underground Zero ? ?Between Worlds? (from Powerplay) Blue Drift ? ?Deep Space? (from Mariner) Moonloonies ? ?Aphrodite Darxtar With Flute? (from forthcoming compilation) Korai Orom ? ?A? (from Sound & Vision 2000) Kid Icarus ? ?700 Angry Ghosts? (from The Metal West) Fireclan ? ?Sudden Mist? (from Sunrise to Sunset) Mantric Muse ? ?Cinope? (from Copenhagen Space Rock Festival 2002) Used Alien Mind ? ?Phase 1 Complete? (from Solar Sessions Vol. 1) The Atomic Bongload (show #12): Black Widow Records Label Special Black Widow is an Italian label that focuses on Space Rock, heavy Progressive Rock and Metal. They been around for quite a long time now, having over 80 releases to their credit. They put out most everything on BOTH CD & Vinyl... really gorgeous LP packages. I've just stocked several of their titles in my mail order catalog and have put together this label tribute to give you a kick ass show as well as the opportunity to sample some of the items in our mail order catalog. Bedouin ? ?Sword of the East? (from Daze of the Underground: A Tribute to Hawkwind) Wicked Minds ? ?From The Purple Skies? (from From The Purple Skies) Areknames ? ?Grain of Sand Lost in the Sea? (from Areknames) Akron ? ?Il Tempio Di Ferro? (from Il Temio De Ferro) Architectural Metaphor ? ?The Maker? (from Not of this Earth) ST 37 ? ?Model Had? (from The Insect Hospital) Presence ? ?The Other Weight of Sense? (from The Sleeper Awakes + Live) Antonius Rex ? ?Halloween? (from Praeternatural) PXR.1 ? ?The Day the Earth Stood Still? (from Not of this Earth) Il Segno Del Comando ? ?Komplott Charousek? (from Der Golem) L'impero Delle Ombre ? ?Condanna? (from L'impero Delle Ombre) Simon House & Rod Goodway ? ?The Reapers Whistle? (from House of Dreams) Sad Minstrel ? ?Canzone Della Bambina Di Triora? (from The Flight of the Phoenix) Mortica ? ?The Devil?s Road? (from Exhumed) Crystal Phoenix ? ?Total War: Black Out? (from The Legend of the Two Stonedragons) Antonius Rex ? ?Aquila Non Capit Muscas? (from Neque Semper Arcum Tendit Rex) The Electronic Cottage (show #13): Haltapes Label Special Haltapes is run by veteran electronic musician and sound artist Hal McGee and spotlights his own music and his many collaborations. Hal was a key participant in the 1980's-90's homemade music cassette underground, as well as being heavily involved in distributing music. In the late 80's-early 90's Hal published the zine Electronic Cottage, the title of which provided the inspiration for this show. Most of the selections you'll hear on the show are from CD's available in the Aural Innovations mail order store. Hal McGee and Rick Franecki ? ?The Plate Trembles and Produces an Apple? (from Moon Egg Rabbit Star) Phinney/McGee ? ?Incident On The Space Elevator? (from Escape From Earth) Hal McGee and Dave Fuglewicz ? ?Dislocated Chronicles (excerpt)? (from Synergistic Deconstruction) Hal McGee and M. Nomized ? ?Landing at Stonehenge? (from Space Exploration) Hal McGee and Brian Noring ? ?Journey Through A Brain? (from Excursions) Goff/McGee ? ?Unertia? (from Verve of the Void) Hal McGee and Pascal Hament ? ?The Plains of Nazca? (from Space Exploration) Alchemical Radio (show #89) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends Terri~B and The Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label, and features some of the best Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Metal, and adventurous Pop that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions The Baghdaddies ? "Ounce Pounce" The Bossa Nova Beatniks ? "The American Dream" The Bevis Frond ? "Fast Falls The Eventide" Bob Pyle ? "Factory Style" Bob Seawick ? "Breakthrough" Brad Wilson ? "Cruisin? The Coast" The Buzzrats ? "Lefty In Roswell" Camilla Ringquist ? "Skating" Cheese ? "Kid Gloves" The Cleaners From Venus ? "Winter In The Country" Der Konig ? "Childhood" Don Campau & Tom Furgas ? "My Only Knowing" Don Mancuso ? "Can?t Dig Your Way Out" http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon May 30 13:35:54 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 18:35:54 +0100 Subject: Assault'n'Battery, and a new kidney please! Message-ID: Seems you'd be best to take your own music if you need an operation: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050526-121758-6004r.htm From coral at APORT.RU Mon May 30 17:31:12 2005 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 01:31:12 +0400 Subject: HW: Who the heck was that? Message-ID: I'm sure I've heard Ozrics remix in F1 ad here before the Europe GP race. cheers, Alisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyberkrel" To: Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > The name of the band is Cordurouy (prob spelt wrong) - I happen to have the > album for my sins. > Andy G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David and Manami Greenhalgh > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:11 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Who the heck was that? > > > > I have to admit I have never heard of them. I think I need to have a > > dig around the iTMS for this one. > > > > Cheers > > > > Dave > > > > On 22 May 2005, at 19:55, Jon Jarrett wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 22 May 2005, David and Manami Greenhalgh wrote: > > > > > > > > >> At the start of the ITV F1 coverage from Monaco there was a sequence > > >> backed by something that sounded disturbingly like Jamiroquai > > >> covering > > >> Motorhead. Does anyone know what it was? > > >> > > > > > > That's almost certainly the version by Corduroy, I'd have > > > thought, > > > though I haven't seen it in this instance. It's quite good. I have > > > to work > > > very hard to hate it as much as it deserves to be hated what it > > > actually > > > is :-) Yours, > > > Jon > > > > > > ObCD: The Spacious Mind - _Cosmic Mind at Play_ > > > -- > > > Jonathan Jarrett "There is scarce any tradition or popular > > > error > > > Birkbeck College but stands also delivered by some good > > > author." > > > London (Sir Thomas Browne, "Pseudodoxia Epidemica", > > > 1646) > > > > From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue May 31 08:29:18 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:29:18 -0400 Subject: HW: TMTYL +DVD Message-ID: + ++ ++ +STAR WARRIORS ++ ++ The first 2000 copies of our new studio album will include an exclusive DVD containing rare & behind the scenes footage Full details soon on Mission Control: www.hawkwind.com + ++ + MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + ++ +