From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jan 1 14:07:21 2005 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 19:07:21 +0000 Subject: HW: More Photos In-Reply-To: <41D59055.1030408@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi All. Happy New Year! I've put more photos on my website... http://www.tangledwoof.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.htm This time it's a compilation of various dates from the Nov 2001 tour. Photos by Ron Wright and myself. Cheers -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Jan 2 04:43:51 2005 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:43:51 +0000 Subject: HW: More Photos In-Reply-To: <41D6F4E9.30804@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: And again. This time I've put on more Ron Wright photos from 1988 and 1989 Alan Taylor wrote: > Hi All. > > Happy New Year! > > I've put more photos on my website... > > http://www.tangledwoof.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.htm > > This time it's a compilation of various dates from the Nov 2001 tour. > Photos by Ron Wright and myself. > > Cheers > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jan 3 02:33:38 2005 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 02:33:38 -0500 Subject: OFF: make your own dr. who theme In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 07:20:44AM -0600, Arin Komins wrote: > http://www0.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/news/radiophonatron.shtml Too funny -- and simultaneously very cool! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The animal that coils in a circle is the serpent; that's why so many cults and myths of the serpent exist, because it's hard to represent the return of the sun by the coiling of a hippopotamus. - Umberto Eco, "Foucault's Pendulum" From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Mon Jan 3 17:19:11 2005 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 23:19:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Roadburn fest...(also AD2) Message-ID: Hey Folks... At the webpage for that Dutch one-dayer in April (where Litmus is confirmed already), it mentions that they're trying to get Hawkwind to come and headline. They have three stages and an intended 10-band lineup (no names listed yet), but it may turn out to be a worthwhile trip. Note that lots of the other bands will likely be of the heavier, stoner type, rather than widdly stuff. But that suits me fine. Oh, and has anybody heard this Valis CD featuring the Conner Brothers from Screaming Trees? The Roadburn folks seem to suggest it's quite space-rocky. Ciao...Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Set-list from last night's Krautrockpalast broadcast on WDR Koeln. Official DVD to be released at some point in the future, I understand. Birth Control 1. Just Before the Sun Will Rise 2. Back From Hell (Peter Foeller guesting on vocals) 3. Gamma Ray (w/ solos) Epitaph 1. Woman 2. Big City 3. Fresh Air 4. Reflections 5. Tequila Shuffle Guru Guru 1. Living in the Woods 2. Izmiz 3. Kleines Pyjama 4. Moshi Moshi 5. Der Elektrolurch jam Karthago 1. Burning Fire 2. Rock 'n' Roll Testament 3. In the Midnight 4. Queen of the Night 5. Keep it Together Amon D??l II 1. Archangel's Thunderbird 2. Green-Bubble-Raincoated Man 3. Deutsch Nepal 4. Speed Inside My Shoes 5. All the Years Round 6. Kanaan Jane 1. Daytime 2. Spain/Windows medley 3. Out in the Rain Quick thoughts...it was pretty cool to see these bands on TV, esp. AD2 and Guru Guru. As you might imagine, their performances were in one sense the most chaotic and mistake- prone, but then they were also by far the most experimental* and 'true' to the krautrock ideal, so of course they were the most enjoyable. AD2 played better than I had expected, and a great setlist, in most every way, except that HP Leopold is now playing crappy electronic drums which didn't work for me at all during the real 'rock' parts. Jan Kahlert was also there, with his much superior electronic kit (his sounded more like real drums than Leopold's). So percussion for AD2 was a real problem. Karrer played some great guitar though (Kanaan was the coolest track live), and Renate was in good form. Took lots of liberties with the phrasing of many lines, but then the original phrasings were already so strange and chaotic than changing them hardly degrades the song. *Luigi Archetti, as he often does, played lots of freak-out guitar last night, which was cool. From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 3 18:18:05 2005 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:18:05 -0500 Subject: HW: Roadburn fest...(also AD2) Message-ID: Keep us posted about the DVD release of Krautrockpalast if you hear anything. Cheers. On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 23:19:11 +0100, Henderson Keith wrote: >Hey Folks... > >At the webpage for that Dutch one-dayer in April (where Litmus is confirmed >already), it mentions that they're trying to get Hawkwind to come and >headline. They have three stages and an intended 10-band lineup (no names >listed yet), but it may turn out to be a worthwhile trip. Note that lots of >the other bands will likely be of the heavier, stoner type, rather than >widdly stuff. But that suits me fine. Oh, and has anybody heard this Valis >CD featuring the Conner Brothers from Screaming Trees? The Roadburn folks >seem to suggest it's quite space-rocky. > >Ciao...Grakkl (FAA) > >P.S. Set-list from last night's Krautrockpalast broadcast on WDR Koeln. >Official DVD to be released at some point in the future, I understand. > >Birth Control >1. Just Before the Sun Will Rise >2. Back From Hell (Peter Foeller guesting on vocals) >3. Gamma Ray (w/ solos) > >Epitaph >1. Woman >2. Big City >3. Fresh Air >4. Reflections >5. Tequila Shuffle > >Guru Guru >1. Living in the Woods >2. Izmiz >3. Kleines Pyjama >4. Moshi Moshi >5. Der Elektrolurch jam > >Karthago >1. Burning Fire >2. Rock 'n' Roll Testament >3. In the Midnight >4. Queen of the Night >5. Keep it Together > >Amon D??l II >1. Archangel's Thunderbird >2. Green-Bubble-Raincoated Man >3. Deutsch Nepal >4. Speed Inside My Shoes >5. All the Years Round >6. Kanaan > >Jane >1. Daytime >2. Spain/Windows medley >3. Out in the Rain > >Quick thoughts...it was pretty cool to see >these bands on TV, esp. AD2 and Guru Guru. As you might imagine, >their performances were in one sense the most chaotic and mistake- >prone, but then they were also by far the most experimental* >and 'true' to the krautrock ideal, so of course they were the most >enjoyable. AD2 played better than I had expected, and a great >setlist, in most every way, except that HP Leopold is now playing >crappy electronic drums which didn't work for me at all during the >real 'rock' parts. Jan Kahlert was also there, with his much superior >electronic kit (his sounded more like real drums than Leopold's). >So percussion for AD2 was a real problem. Karrer played some great >guitar though (Kanaan was the coolest track live), and Renate was in >good form. Took lots of liberties with the phrasing of many lines, >but then the original phrasings were already so strange and chaotic >than changing them hardly degrades the song. > >*Luigi Archetti, as he often does, played lots of freak-out guitar >last night, which was cool. From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Jan 4 04:47:10 2005 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:47:10 +0100 Subject: HW X-mas Single thoughts Message-ID: Any thoughts on this single? I think the band were pretty stoned when they made the christmas track. Richard is clearly gone a bit too far with the computer sex... Ritual Breathing reminds me of an outtake from the White Zone. Some really cool panning. This stuff sounds really great in the headphones. I guess it was mixed by Alan?? all the best in 2005 to everyone. scott ObCD- Gov't Mule- Beacon Theatre, NYC 12/31/04 From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 4 10:47:14 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:47:14 +0000 Subject: off: what hi-fi equipment do you listen to Hawkwind? In-Reply-To: <1a7.2e2c5633.2f05ffc6@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 Stewartbas at AOL.COM wrote: > Thanks for planting that seed Scotto! It's always good to hear from you, > even if ya put me in the poor house with yer talk of fancy schmancey stereo > systems. Carl and Keith are back on line and it occured to me that you guys all > left the USA shortly after the Hawkwind/Limelight Lasagna party. Was it > something i said? Anyone hear anything 'bout tanya? Google knows all. Having used this fact to locate her again (old e-mail address I had for her long dead) I mailed her and have this day received the news that she is alive and well in England and says hi to BOC-L. For what this may be worth to people... Yours, Jon ObCD: V/A - _Acid Jam II_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 4 10:57:14 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:57:14 +0000 Subject: HW X-mas Single thoughts In-Reply-To: <6C4C2180C82034499D3755A78D0D125403941BEE@exdkba022.novo.dk> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote: > Any thoughts on this single? > > I think the band were pretty stoned when they made the christmas track. > Richard is clearly gone a bit too far with the computer sex... Ritual > Breathing reminds me of an outtake from the White Zone. Some really cool > panning. This stuff sounds really great in the headphones. I guess it > was mixed by Alan?? Not tried it on phones yet, I don't really have a functional headphone set-up and it's things like this that remind me I need to sort this out. I don't have _White Zone_ anyway so it wouldn't help me test your theory :-) I thought the single track was pretty silly, but in a good way. This doesn't mean that I've played it at anyone else though... Richard's lyrics contain some quality innuendo in `Angela Android' and my heart goes out to him for "we're so alive and they're all nearly dead", someone in the band is still young at heart! But I agree he probably needs to get out a bit more given how much of a theme it seems to be. He's just that bit *too* far into the concept ;-) One thing I did notice was the presence of Simon on `Ritual Breathing' so I guess that track and the previous one are probably both studio jamming from c. 2001? This makes me want to know when `Christmas Treat' was put down, presumably more recently as its production sounds more like the MP3 clips on the website. That in turn makes me wonder if Simon's contributions remain on any of what we may some day hear in full. After all, back then it was still the Death Generator album from 1998... > all the best in 2005 to everyone. Likewise to all. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Wed Jan 5 05:46:05 2005 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:46:05 -0000 Subject: Brain: London Message-ID: >From Total Rock BRAIN SURGEONS CONFIRM LONDON DATE The Brain Surgeons, featuring former Blue Oyster Cult drummer Albert Bouchard and ex-Manowar guitarist Ross The Boss, have confirmed a date at LOndon's 100 Club on February 11. Get tickets via the Ticketmaster link at www.totalrock.com "Peace, Love and Armageddon" - New Album By Roxie77 - Out Now from www.roxie77.com ------------ The Alice Cooper Trivia File: http://www.sickthingsuk.co.uk UK Unofficial Alice Cooper Convention: http://www.sickcon.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 From nexus at PANIX.COM Wed Jan 5 15:40:40 2005 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:40:40 -0500 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Dominance annd Submission In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Damn, I sometimes forget how great that song is. JB ObCD: Secret Treaties:-) From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jan 5 16:24:38 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:24:38 -0500 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Dominance annd Submission In-Reply-To: <200501052040.j05Keef23513@panix5.panix.com> Message-ID: Jeff Berry wrote: > Damn, I sometimes forget how great that song is. It's always good to be reminded why we're here. ;-) I'm currently revisiting the melodic arse-kicking that is the SEE version of Astronomy. Brian --- Brian Halligan blackblade at bhalligan.com From CWarburton at OAG.COM Thu Jan 6 06:00:35 2005 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (CWarburton at OAG.COM) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:00:35 -0000 Subject: HW: Mojo Buyers Guide Message-ID: In Mojo's "How To Buy" feature, they've announced: "Next month we'll print your Top 10 albums by Hawkwind. Cast your vote at http://www.mojo4music.com or e-mail your Top 5 to mojo at emap.com. Mark the subject 'How To Buy Hawkwind', and we'll print the best comments." So here's an opportunity to get our informed opinions (hem!) out into the wider world.... ChrisW NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not one of the intended recipients, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and attachment(s): you must not copy, distribute, retain or take any action in reliance upon the email or attachment(s). While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, OAG Worldwide Ltd and its affiliate companies cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your systems, and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. Thank you. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 6 10:59:52 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:59:52 +0000 Subject: Brain: London In-Reply-To: <0f6001c4f313$c208eeb0$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Si Halley wrote: > BRAIN SURGEONS CONFIRM LONDON DATE > The Brain Surgeons, featuring former Blue Oyster Cult drummer Albert Bouchard and ex-Manowar guitarist Ross The Boss, have confirmed > a date at LOndon's 100 Club on February 11. Get tickets via the Ticketmaster link at www.totalrock.com I believe I might be up for that. I wonder how many people I can talk into it? Let us see... Yours, Jon ObCassette: Nirvana - _Bleach_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Thu Jan 6 14:03:04 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:03:04 -0000 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Dominance annd Submission In-Reply-To: <344B32CE-5F60-11D9-A5FC-000A95EFCFB8@bhalligan.com> Message-ID: I need to play Seven Screaming Dizbusters (any version) at least once a month to keep the old juices flowing! Tony -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Brian Halligan Sent: 05 January 2005 21:25 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: BOC/BRAIN: Dominance annd Submission Jeff Berry wrote: > Damn, I sometimes forget how great that song is. It's always good to be reminded why we're here. ;-) I'm currently revisiting the melodic arse-kicking that is the SEE version of Astronomy. Brian --- Brian Halligan blackblade at bhalligan.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 7 10:17:51 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:17:51 GMT Subject: HW: Cambridge & Astoria In-Reply-To: Henderson Keith's message of Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:49:03 +0100 Message-ID: Henderson Keith writes: > The "Assassins of Allah/Palestine" bit, apart from being stale and tired, > also had Richard fooling around with his electronic rack and not doing the > bongoing bit that he once did. I remember it well from the Cleveland Agora > (1995) show (wow...this thing has now hit 10 consecutive years at least?!) > where Richard did some great stuff during Palestine. It's still "OK" and I > like to have these trancey bits spliced into the occasional tracks, but it's > time for a new combo. Yup. I still like to hear them doing Palestine but I reckon it could be tried as a middle section for "Sword of the East". It's a shame they dropped that meld of Seeing It As You Really Are and Earth Calling too. That really was improving while it was in the setlist. We can take it as a given that I'm still rooting for a longer version of "Where Are They Now?" > Though I think the > tracklist *could* have been a bit better here, if some of the more > interesting 'classics' had been chosen over the more 'standard' numbers, > like e.g., '7x7' in place of 'Brainstorm,' A sound idea! > or 'The Watcher' in place of 'Angels of Death,' The Watcher works much better as a menacing track. > On that note, 'Brainbox Pollution' is > pretty cool to have in there as an encore Yep, that's been going down extremely well at every gig I've seen it played. The lightshow was amazing, particularly at Manchester. A great tour and hello again to all the folks I bumped into, and even the ones I just talked to... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 7 10:59:32 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:59:32 GMT Subject: Paging Doug Pearson... Message-ID: Anyone have Doug's current address? seems to be defunct. Thanks FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jan 7 16:37:57 2005 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:37:57 +0000 Subject: HW X-mas Single thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > One thing I did notice was the presence of Simon on `Ritual >Breathing' so I guess that track and the previous one are probably both >studio jamming from c. 2001? This makes me want to know when `Christmas >Treat' was put down, presumably more recently as its production sounds >more like the MP3 clips on the website. That in turn makes me wonder if >Simon's contributions remain on any of what we may some day hear in >full. After all, back then it was still the Death Generator album from >1998... > They needn't be that old. Simon was with the band up until August '03 (he'd have been playing in the band when that version of AA was probably recorded - on the Spring '03 tour). Whether he's still on the new album or not is another matter... From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jan 7 16:44:52 2005 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:44:52 +0000 Subject: HW: Cambridge & Astoria In-Reply-To: <200501071517.j07FHp1k014635@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >>The "Assassins of Allah/Palestine" bit, apart from being stale and tired, >>also had Richard fooling around with his electronic rack and not doing the >>bongoing bit that he once did. I remember it well from the Cleveland Agora >>(1995) show (wow...this thing has now hit 10 consecutive years at least?!) >>where Richard did some great stuff during Palestine. It's still "OK" and I >>like to have these trancey bits spliced into the occasional tracks, but it's >>time for a new combo. >> >> Older, for sure. I think they were doing it as far back as '92, definitely '93. It was the 'middle bit' of Assassins before it was a track in its own right on IITB... >>or 'The Watcher' in place of 'Angels of Death,' >> >> > >The Watcher works much better as a menacing track. > > I'd maybe agree, but it was the best AoD I've heard in a long, long while. Much better slow and doomy than the speeded up metal version of the mid-80's. Dave was giving it some nice lead in with the riff as well. >>On that note, 'Brainbox Pollution' is >>pretty cool to have in there as an encore >> >> The version of this at the Birkenhead souncheck was wonderful :-) >The lightshow was amazing, particularly at Manchester. > >A great tour and hello again to all the folks I bumped into, and even >the ones I just talked to... > > > Good to see you again too (and you Keith!) Nick From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jan 7 17:59:38 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 22:59:38 -0000 Subject: HW: Cambridge & Astoria In-Reply-To: <41DF02D4.70407@virgin.net> Message-ID: Nick wrote: [snip] >>On that note, 'Brainbox Pollution' is >>pretty cool to have in there as an encore >> >> The version of this at the Birkenhead souncheck was wonderful :-) How was it different to the version played I that night's show? I thought that version was excellent too; a track where Jason's keys really added that something extra to the mix. Mark From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jan 9 13:31:41 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:31:41 +0000 Subject: HW: Mojo Buyers Guide In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 CWarburton at OAG.COM wrote: > In Mojo's "How To Buy" feature, they've announced: > > "Next month we'll print your Top 10 albums by Hawkwind. Cast your vote > at http://www.mojo4music.com or e-mail your Top 5 to mojo at emap.com. > Mark the subject 'How To Buy Hawkwind', and we'll print the best > comments." Is it just me that can't find anything relevant on that webpage? > So here's an opportunity to get our informed opinions (hem!) out into > the wider world.... I can't help but wonder who's paying for this sort of coverage myself. Am I grown too cynical? I realise Mojo do occasionally cover Hawkwind but this seems too much... Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Levitation_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM Mon Jan 10 23:21:08 2005 From: Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM (Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:21:08 EST Subject: HW: Mojo Buyers Guide Message-ID: I get error messages too.... From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Tue Jan 11 22:16:56 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:16:56 -0800 Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forest Group Message-ID: Hey there, I'm a newbie to the list. First saw BOC during the Revolution by Night tour. I just wanted to know if anyone recommends the Stalk-Forest Group CD that Rhino Handmade put out. I wasn't blown away by the extra songs on the reissue of BOC (ST) and wanted to know if the rest of of the CD is similar. Gary Shindler Jr. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Wed Jan 12 02:43:15 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:43:15 -0000 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: <20050112031656.17028.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The rest of the CD is unlike anything by BOC with the possible exception of "Redeemed" on the first album. I remember hearing St Cecilia for the first time a couple of years and thinking "Ah, that's where Redeemed came from!" I was always confused as to the origin of that song and could never understand how it fitted in with the excellent heavy "biker-rock" that is the first album. I'd say you should get, any BOC fan should, if only to hear the influences on later songs - Gil Blanco County (which Albert Bouchard and Sandy Pearlman intended to use on Imaginos) and Arthur Comics (think "Buck's Boogie when you listen to this. Also there's a great version of "I'm On The Lamb". The CD is a limited edition so one of these days it will run out. Tony -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of gary shindler Sent: 12 January 2005 03:17 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forest Group Hey there, I'm a newbie to the list. First saw BOC during the Revolution by Night tour. I just wanted to know if anyone recommends the Stalk-Forest Group CD that Rhino Handmade put out. I wasn't blown away by the extra songs on the reissue of BOC (ST) and wanted to know if the rest of of the CD is similar. Gary Shindler Jr. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 12 06:19:16 2005 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:19:16 -0000 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group Message-ID: If you didn't like those extra songs, St Cecilia won't do anything for you either. >From a musician's point of view it's very interesting hearing a now-familiar riff or chord progression in its original context, as quite a number of the songs contain elements that were reused in BOC songs that we know and love. For my part, I couldn't take St Cecilia off my CD player for the first 6 months after I received it. Gil Blanco County I'd love to hear arranged and played by OYFoOYK-era Cult in the style of (TCt)LDoM.... Chris. (Sorry I've always wanted to make an acronym post!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "gary shindler" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:16 AM Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forest Group > Hey there, I'm a newbie to the list. First saw BOC during the Revolution by Night tour. I just wanted to know if anyone recommends the Stalk-Forest Group CD that Rhino Handmade put out. I wasn't blown away by the extra songs on the reissue of BOC (ST) and wanted to know if the rest of of the CD is similar. > Gary Shindler Jr. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jan 12 10:01:48 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:01:48 -0800 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm a little slow. What is "(TCt)LDoM....?" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 12 11:35:26 2005 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:35:26 -0000 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group Message-ID: (Then Came the) Last Days of May Probably my favourite BOC track. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "gary shindler" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Stalk-Forest Group > I'm a little slow. What is "(TCt)LDoM....?" > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jan 12 11:55:08 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:55:08 -0800 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Me, too. Can't go wrong on the early records. --- Chris Allen wrote: > (Then Came the) Last Days of May > > Probably my favourite BOC track. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gary shindler" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:01 PM > Subject: Re: Stalk-Forest Group > > > > I'm a little slow. What is "(TCt)LDoM....?" > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage > less. > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 12 15:30:11 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:30:11 -0500 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:19:16 -0000, Chris Allen wrote: >If you didn't like those extra songs, St Cecilia won't do anything for >you either. I'd say "not necessarily". The extra songs on the first CD don't really include (IIRC) any of the more jamming/psychedelic moments on 'St. Cecilia' (especially the title track - that one actually reminds me quite a bit of the Grateful Dead circa 1968!). If a jazzy Byrds-meets-Dead vibe sounds appealing, I'd recommend checking out the album; if not, then I wouldn't. If you're into BOC for the "heavy rock" aspect, then, yeah, the Stalk- Forrest CD probably won't do much for you. To compare the SFG album to some of the others that (actually) came out on Elektra at the same time, I'd say it sounds a lot more like Tim Buckley (with something of a folk- jazz vibe) or Paul Butterfield (with virtuoso not-so-heavy guitar jamming) than the Stooges or MC5. Apparently there's a European SFG CD with the same track listing as the original vinyl boot (i.e. less than the Rhino version), but it may be much cheaper than the Rhino one (probably not in the States, though, given the currency situation). I believe that http://www.anophelesrecords.com/ has copies (although the website only lists their own releases, not the other labels' stuff they stock). I really like the album, for whatever that's worth. :^) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 12 16:57:23 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:57:23 -0500 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Jan 12, 2005, at 3:30 PM, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:19:16 -0000, Chris Allen > wrote: > >> If you didn't like those extra songs, St Cecilia won't do anything for >> you either. > > I'd say "not necessarily". The extra songs on the first CD don't > really > include (IIRC) any of the more jamming/psychedelic moments on 'St. > Cecilia' (especially the title track - that one actually reminds me > quite > a bit of the Grateful Dead circa 1968!). If a jazzy Byrds-meets-Dead > vibe > sounds appealing, I'd recommend checking out the album; if not, then I > wouldn't. I agree. While it's nice to hear some of those demos on the Columbia Records, the fact is that they were all recorded in one day . We took nearly a month to do the Elektra album (except I'm on the Lamb, which was done in a demo studio at Elektra on Broadway in one entire day) and were more prepared. Also the engineering by Brian Ross-Meyering (Chicago, Bread) was better than the Columbia demo guys. > If you're into BOC for the "heavy rock" aspect, then, yeah, the Stalk- > Forrest CD probably won't do much for you. To compare the SFG album to > some of the others that (actually) came out on Elektra at the same > time, > I'd say it sounds a lot more like Tim Buckley (with something of a > folk- > jazz vibe) or Paul Butterfield (with virtuoso not-so-heavy guitar > jamming) > than the Stooges or MC5. You could never get the SFG mixed up with any of those groups. Lots of jamming and a West Coast vibes were our specialty. You forgot the Doors as a comparison. Way too much blues for Tim Buckley too. > Apparently there's a European SFG CD with the same track listing as the > original vinyl boot (i.e. less than the Rhino version), but it may be > much > cheaper than the Rhino one (probably not in the States, though, given > the > currency situation). I believe that http://www.anophelesrecords.com/ > has > copies (although the website only lists their own releases, not the > other > labels' stuff they stock). > > I really like the album, for whatever that's worth. :^) I wouldn't recommend the bootleg as the sound quality is not very good whereas the Rhino one sounds better than I remember by quite a bit, besides the packaging is very nice with original artwork and pretty accurate linear notes. There aren't any hits on it but the music is quite pleasant and Eric Bloom's vocals sound more like Donald's than they ever would again. Al From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jan 12 20:12:48 2005 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:12:48 -0500 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >I wouldn't recommend the bootleg as the sound quality is not very good >whereas the Rhino one sounds better than I remember by quite a bit, >besides the packaging is very nice with original artwork and pretty >accurate linear notes. There aren't any hits on it but the music is >quite pleasant and Eric Bloom's vocals sound more like Donald's than >they ever would again. >Al Eric gives my favorite scream/yell on Donovan's Monkey. The album also has some of Lanier's best/most involved keyboard work with the group, I think. Question for Al: who else is on the bill at the CBGB's show? and what spot does tBS have? Jason From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 12 23:08:46 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:08:46 -0500 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.1.20050112200648.021b6db0@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On Jan 12, 2005, at 8:12 PM, Jason wrote: > Question for Al: who else is on the bill at the CBGB's show? and what > spot does > tBS have? Also on the bill are the Shirts (legendary punksters from Brooklyn) who go on about 9, tBS around 10 and Tuff Jeff Salen Band (Tuff Darts) following us at 11. We will be playing some more songs from our new record which is almost done except for the mixing. Al From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Jan 12 23:11:01 2005 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:11:01 -0500 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I for one cannot recommend the CD enough. It is a vital part of the early genesis of BOC, and gave me a better understanding as to some of the songs on the first album. Get it. It is well worth the corn. Mike From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 13 04:04:14 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:04:14 +0000 Subject: BOC: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: <20050112031656.17028.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, gary shindler wrote: > Hey there, I'm a newbie to the list. First saw BOC during the > Revolution by Night tour. I just wanted to know if anyone recommends > the Stalk-Forest Group CD that Rhino Handmade put out. I wasn't blown > away by the extra songs on the reissue of BOC (ST) and wanted to know > if the rest of of the CD is similar. I'd chime in with what everyone else has said, especially Doug. The SFG CD is not the garage sound that those demo tracks have, though the same agility and jumping around is present in the SFG verss. The feel of the SFG disc is much more fluid, sunshine through trees (this may be the artwork influencing my wording) and so on. There is some splendid jamming, and it's weird (well, no, because who's surprised? but impressive) how much of it is effectively a twin-lead effort between Buck's guitar and Al's percussion. Also, Rhino Handmade have done a lovely package and the liner notes cater for the obsessive fan very nicely. I love `Donovan's Monkey' and I think `St Cecilia' is truly beautiful (in either version) but I'd agree that the songs aren't instant grabbers by and large (though the first few notes of Allen's keyboard break in `Arthur Comics'!) but you'll find they've snuck into your head and made their home there all the same. Well, I did anyway. Welcome to the list by the way! Yours, Jon ObCD: The Bevis Frond - _New River Head_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Thu Jan 13 14:40:02 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:40:02 -0000 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Question for Al: who else is on the bill at the CBGB's show? and what > spot does > tBS have? <> Oh very cool. They had a really great single years and years ago called "Tell Me Your Plans", assuming it's the same band of course. "Tell Me Your Plans" was wonderful swirling guitar almost psychedelic pop, very Cocteau Twins I thought, even though they pre-dated them by a few years. By the way, Albert, what's the band order at the 100 Club show in London next month? I understand the legendary John Otway is supporting you. That's gonna be a great gig! Tony From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jan 13 18:05:38 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:05:38 -0500 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: <000601c4f9a7$ad055900$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: On Jan 13, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Tony wrote: > Oh very cool. They had a really great single years and years ago > called > "Tell Me Your Plans", assuming it's the same band of course. "Tell Me > Your > Plans" was wonderful swirling guitar almost psychedelic pop, very > Cocteau > Twins I thought, even though they pre-dated them by a few years. One and the same. > > By the way, Albert, what's the band order at the 100 Club show in > London > next month? I understand the legendary John Otway is supporting you. > That's gonna be a great gig! I think we are closing. I just sent the promoter Jim Driver an outline of our set so I guess he'll figure when we need to go on to do the whole thing. I guess you should check the website for more details. Al From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Sun Jan 16 12:02:16 2005 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:02:16 +0100 Subject: NIK: Roadburn festival Message-ID: Hey all... The lineup for that one-dayer Roadburn fest in Holland (Tilburn, Sa. 9.4.05...that's April 9th to you Amis) is apparently close to being finalized. After apparently not managing to get Hawkwind to come, they've now settled on Nik's Space Ritual unit as headliner, which might still be interesting to see (at least once, to judge for myself, and apparently, they occasionally play good gigs...and even the 'bad' ones with Nik are still usually fun for me, as celebrating Hawkwind music in whatever form can't be entirely bad, no matter how imperfectly played). Anyway, the stronger reason for going might be the inclusion of other good bands in the lineup, like Litmus for starters. But also, there's some heavier stuff (not that Litmus isn't damn heavy themselves) like Electric Wizard, Brant Bjork (Kyuss/Fu Manchu vet.) and some other familiar names (though I haven't heard them myself) like Alabama Thunderpussy and Josiah. Oh, yeah, and Jon Jarrett was telling me about this Gorilla band...now I'd like to hear more about them, if he (or anybody else) would indulge me. And any words about the other acts that I haven't already mentioned would be helpful as well. Lineup...see roadburn.com for more details. NIK TURNER'S SPACE RITUAL BRANT BJORK & THE BROS ASTROSONIQ LITMUS ELECTRIC WIZARD SUNN 0))) ALABAMA THUNDERPUSSY HULK GORILLA JOSIAH [2 more bands to be confirmed] Ciao z?me...Grakkl (FAA) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jan 16 13:59:10 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:59:10 +0000 Subject: NIK: Roadburn festival In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Henderson Keith wrote: > Lineup...see roadburn.com for more details. > NIK TURNER'S SPACE RITUAL > BRANT BJORK & THE BROS > ASTROSONIQ > LITMUS > ELECTRIC WIZARD > SUNN 0))) > ALABAMA THUNDERPUSSY > HULK > GORILLA > JOSIAH > [2 more bands to be confirmed] Urk. I think I'm going to need a passport. I've no idea what Brant Bjork's current project is like (it's *not* like Kyuss, I'll guess from the last album he did under the moniker of Brant Bjork and The Operators), Josiah are, well, underwhelming,[1] and Electric Wizard are apparently not the same thing at all since the rhythm section changed but Nik's lot are always at least entertaining, I've been meaning to see Sunn 0))) for a long time (is this outdoors? Can't see how that would work at all but I'd give it a go) and Litmus and Gorilla will both kick arse automatically. And I only know one Astrosoniq track but it's great and they seem to have a sense of humour. Also good to see the space scene and the stoner one meeting so readily, that's been needing to happen for a long long time. If this festival's name is derived from the old (and possibly revenant?) webzine of the same name that would explain this, they always had a rather broader church of stoner than their US counterparts, good to see they can put something like this together. I shall make plans if I can. Thanks for the extra details Keith! Yours, Jon [1] Richard Allen running a `heavy' label worries me. This is a man who once told me he preferred Grand Funk Railroad to Blue ?yster Cult, which does not I feel bode well for interesting and individual bands. I saw Josiah back in 2001 and then again just before Christmas just gone and they're not really very lively. Gorilla are a whole different thing, completely over-the-top overdriven 60s-style stoner, ranging from MC5 to Blue Cheer but combing all their excess and clich?s and a whole lot more. -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Jan 16 14:39:20 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:39:20 -0500 Subject: NIK: Roadburn festival Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:59:10 +0000, Jon Jarrett wrote: >[1] Richard Allen running a `heavy' label worries me. This is a man who >once told me he preferred Grand Funk Railroad to Blue ?yster Cult, which >does not I feel bode well for interesting and individual bands. You don't want to know what I had to go through in order to learn how to "appreciate" Grand Funk Railroad ... (well, ok, let's just say that the popularity of GFR and of abuseage of the animal tranquilizer PCP in the states during the 1970s explain each other perfectly) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Sun Jan 16 14:50:34 2005 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:50:34 +0100 Subject: NIK: Roadburn festival Message-ID: Jon said... >Thanks for the extra details Keith! Yours, Likewise. Oh, BTW, Porcupine Tree are playing in the very same club (013 in Tilburg, not Tilburn as I originally wrote) just two days later. If that's important to anyone considering a trip there. 013web.nl is their site. All in Dutch. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Yep...Roadburn fest is from the 'zine folx. Actually, first I'd heard of them. It's inside actually, with three different stages I understand. From charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET Sun Jan 16 15:43:47 2005 From: charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET (Chas) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:43:47 -0000 Subject: Brain: London Message-ID: I've got my ticket - can't believe it tBS in the UK at last. Is there going to be a meet-up before hand. For the last couple of BOC gigs at the Astoria I went to the Angel and didn't see anyone, so it would be good to see a few people and not go on my own (awwww). Is there a pub near the venue and who's going to be there? Albert fancy meeting your public? .......Charlie (Charles the Grinning Boy) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Brain: London > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Si Halley wrote: > > > BRAIN SURGEONS CONFIRM LONDON DATE > > The Brain Surgeons, featuring former Blue Oyster Cult drummer Albert Bouchard and ex-Manowar guitarist Ross The Boss, have confirmed > > a date at LOndon's 100 Club on February 11. Get tickets via the Ticketmaster link at www.totalrock.com > > I believe I might be up for that. I wonder how many people I can > talk into it? Let us see... Yours, > Jon > > ObCassette: Nirvana - _Bleach_ > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk > "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, > So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." > (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 16 16:09:21 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:09:21 -0000 Subject: NIK: Roadburn festival Message-ID: Yes, it is indoors at 013 in Tilburg; the spacerock bands will be playing on the main stage. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henderson Keith" To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: Re: NIK: Roadburn festival > Jon said... > > >Thanks for the extra details Keith! Yours, > > Likewise. > > Oh, BTW, Porcupine Tree are playing in the very same club (013 in Tilburg, > not Tilburn as I originally wrote) just two days later. If that's important > to anyone considering a trip there. 013web.nl is their site. All in Dutch. > > Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. Yep...Roadburn fest is from the 'zine folx. Actually, first I'd heard > of them. It's inside actually, with three different stages I understand. From _jt at COX.NET Mon Jan 17 02:29:38 2005 From: _jt at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:29:38 -0800 Subject: Stalk-Forest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Albert Bouchard wrote: > I wouldn't recommend the bootleg as the sound quality is not very good > whereas the Rhino one sounds better than I remember by quite a bit, > besides the packaging is very nice with original artwork and pretty > accurate linear notes. There aren't any hits on it but the music is > quite pleasant and Eric Bloom's vocals sound more like Donald's than > they ever would again. > Al Plus -- come on, gang. We're fans. Buy the version that puts some coin into the right pockets. -- Jeff From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jan 18 23:27:47 2005 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:27:47 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK & One Eyed Bishops news + a new arrival & Michael Moorcock soundscape Message-ID: Greetings friends, Some of you may have noticed that I've been a bit more 'low profile' lately. Well, I just became a parent ( for the first time ) on January 7th, and then spent 5 days in hospital with my wife before going home and becoming 'sleepless'. Alexander Guiseppe Burro is now the new boss at my place, as I've always thought babies are 'hard wired' to control their parents ( and not vice versa ). Although this new arrival will no doubt restructure many of my activities, there is still some news to report on the musical front. 1. The OEB show at the 'Five Spot' in Philadelphia, scheduled for Saturday, March 19th has been cancelled, due to a dodgy booking agent. I still plan to get out and play as much as possible from late April on, and will of course pass any dates on as they arrive.Any one wishing to book the band or Sloterdijk, please contact us directly at: sloterdijk at msn.com 2. A new double live OEB cd will be available in about a week. The title is 'Spirit of the Wood' ( Live in England 2004) . This is a chronicle of the best bits from the shows we did in England last summer, and includes the entire set played at 'Celebration Fest' ( sponsored by Assassins of Silence ). There are also segmants from our shows in Barnet, and Southampton. Soon, I'll send out a complete list of titles and personnel, along with order information. There are 15 songs in all, and these are without a doubt the best quality live recordings of the band to date. Colin Allen, Kev Ellis & myself all had a hand in the recordings, so I think many of you will enjoy it. Just a few players who appear on the discs are, Paul Hirsh ( Status Quo, Voyager ), Phil Smith ( Headsmith, Ethereal Counterbalance ), Bob Taylor ( Top Topham band ), Kev Ellis ( Acousticatz, Dr. Brown ) , and a host of other seasoned UK blues and rock players. 3. Sloterdijk was recently honored to be part of the Michael Moorcock Audio Art Project which was created as a gift to Mike for his recent 65th Birthday. I highly encourage you to check it out, as you can download it for free by simply registering on the Michael Moorcock Multiverse site for FREE!!! There are many familiar spacerockers on the soundscape, as well as my good friend Don Craine, leader of the 'Downliners Sect'. All the relevent URLs are below.. the Michael Moorcock Audio Art Soundscape project. The MMAAS site has recently been updated: http://www.horse-balloon.co.uk/mmaas An MP3 of the Soundscape is available here: http://www.multiverse.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3 A Screensaver of our Multimedia show (for PC's) here: http://www.multiverse.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=11 Discussion of the project is welcome on our site or on Mike's site: http://www.multiverse.org/postt1901.html So here's hoping you all had a good new year, and that 2005 will be a great one for all!!! All the very best...Mike Burro http://www.freewebs.com/oebs http://www.soundclick.com/sloterdijk http://www.garageband.com/artist/sloterdijk the Michael Moorcock Audio Art Soundscape project. The MMAAS site has recently been updated: http://www.horse-balloon.co.uk/mmaas An MP3 of the Soundscape is available here: http://www.multiverse.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=3 A Screensaver of our Multimedia show (for PC's) here: http://www.multiverse.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=11 Discussion of the project is welcome on our site or on Mike's site: http://www.multiverse.org/postt1901.html From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 19 22:17:39 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:17:39 -0500 Subject: Brain: London In-Reply-To: <00f101c4fc0c$15996cc0$a9fa0750@ODLaptop> Message-ID: On Jan 16, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Chas wrote: > I've got my ticket - can't believe it tBS in the UK at last. > Is there going to be a meet-up before hand. For the last couple of BOC > gigs > at the Astoria I went to the Angel and didn't see anyone, so it would > be > good to see a few people and not go on my own (awwww). Is there a pub > near > the venue and who's going to be there? Albert fancy meeting your > public? Sure. Before or after? Actually I will be taking the red-eye from NYC the day before so I might need a nap before the show but I should be ready to rock after, especially as we have the next day off. I vote for after. Besides we'll have more to talk about after you hear what I've been up to for the last 6 months. Where's the nearest pub open late? Al From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Wed Jan 19 23:27:54 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:27:54 -0800 Subject: Brain: London In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If only to not live in Oklahoma. And to hang out with a songwriter and musician the caliber of Mr. Bouchard. I need to start subscribing to a list that won't make me so jealous. Albert Bouchard wrote:On Jan 16, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Chas wrote: > I've got my ticket - can't believe it tBS in the UK at last. > Is there going to be a meet-up before hand. For the last couple of BOC > gigs > at the Astoria I went to the Angel and didn't see anyone, so it would > be > good to see a few people and not go on my own (awwww). Is there a pub > near > the venue and who's going to be there? Albert fancy meeting your > public? Sure. Before or after? Actually I will be taking the red-eye from NYC the day before so I might need a nap before the show but I should be ready to rock after, especially as we have the next day off. I vote for after. Besides we'll have more to talk about after you hear what I've been up to for the last 6 months. Where's the nearest pub open late? Al --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 20 05:37:38 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:37:38 GMT Subject: Brain: London In-Reply-To: Albert Bouchard's message of Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:17:39 -0500 Message-ID: Albert Bouchard writes: > > Is there a pub near the venue and who's going to be there? Albert > > fancy meeting your public? > Sure. Before or after? Actually I will be taking the red-eye from NYC > the day before so I might need a nap before the show but I should be > ready to rock after, especially as we have the next day off. I vote > for after. Besides we'll have more to talk about after you hear what > I've been up to for the last 6 months. Where's the nearest pub open > late? Al Scotland? FoFP From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Jan 20 05:53:41 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:53:41 +0000 Subject: Brain: London In-Reply-To: <200501201037.j0KAbckU005968@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 20-Jan-2005 10:37, M Holmes wrote: > Albert Bouchard writes: >> > Is there a pub near the venue and who's going to be there? Albert >> > fancy meeting your public? > >> Sure. Before or after? Actually I will be taking the red-eye from NYC >> the day before so I might need a nap before the show but I should be >> ready to rock after, especially as we have the next day off. I vote >> for after. Besides we'll have more to talk about after you hear what >> I've been up to for the last 6 months. Where's the nearest pub open >> late? Al > > Scotland? Yeah, pubs open after 11pm are hard to find in England! Maybe in London .... I've got a friend whose brother works in TV/film stuff in London and asked her to ask him if he knows anywhere. There are probably some all-night cafes, if not actually pubs ... Might have to stroll down to Soho, though that's not far if I remember the 100 Club's location aright. Well, I'm psyched for the gig, anyway :) First time I've seen tBS in, ooo, 10 years, I guess! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 20 16:57:18 2005 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:57:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: What hi-fi equipment do you use to listen to Hawkwind? Message-ID: Thanks for the explanation about stereo Doug. That was just what I was looking for. In this months Hi-Fi Choice magazine in the UK there is a brief one page interview with Holger Czukay. He talks a little about Can's back catalogue being remastered for SACD. He comments that the format worked out well despite their initial skepticism, especially when the engineers didn't try to 'improve' the sound. He then talks a little about how the original recording was done: "...It's a remastering, not a remix, because we recorded everything in stereo, straight onto tape, and we mixed it during the recording. We used two microphones that were facing the singer, the one on his right side was standing by the organ box while the one on the left was standing by the guitar amp, and the band were all playing into these two microphones. "When we made a recording, we then had to go back and overdub it as a group, not seperately. We were only allowed two overdubs, because otherwise the hiss would become too predominant...". Incidently, I bought a ?30 Cambridge Audio interconnect to go from my CD player to my amp. I was always skeptical about how much difference a cable could actually make, thinking it would be negligible. But I have to say I was blown away by it because the difference is massive. CDs sound much better now. On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 14:00:10 -0500, Doug Pearson wrote: >On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:48:07 -0500, Alastair Sumner > wrote: > >>>One of the things that always intrigues me is why some music sounds great >>>on headphones but some doesn't, often because it seems to need that space >>>you refer to, to "breathe" somehow... >> >>Here's a short article about Stereo that I found yesterday. They make a >>distinction between multi-track recordings mixed down to two channels and >>true stereo recordings. I wish I knew more about this from a technical >>point of view because I've no idea what techniques are actually used in the >>modern music recording industry. > >Recording in "true stereo" is one of those things that's an interesting >concept, in theory, but is questionable to implement as an actual process. >Basically, what it means is that *every* part of a piece of music is >*recorded* in stereo (i.e. with two microphones in such a way that the two >recorded signals make up an audibly-pleasing stereo image). In the normal >recording process, this isn't possible because most instruments are recorded >using close-micing techniques. > >For instance, the normal way to record a guitar that will be mostly in the >left channel in the final mix is to stick a microphone in front of a guitar >amp, record the guitar part to tape, and at final mixdown, pan the guitar >track towards the left channel. The "true stereo" way to record this would >be to place two microphones in a room, one close to the guitar amp (the left >channel mic), and one on the other side of the room (the right channel mic); >at final mixdown, the tracks wouldn't have to be panned, because the guitar >signal is already in the left channel more than the right one. In order for >this to be effective, the microphones have to be far away enough from the >guitar amp to pick up the "sound" of the room (the reverberations of the >guitar sound in the room), wheras with close-micing technique, the >microphone *only* picks up what's coming out of the amplifier, and any >reverberations are at too low a level to be perceptible. > >Sticking with the guitar example for the moment, modern recording techniques >absolutely *rely* on being able to close-mic a guitar; moving the microphone >in front of a guitar amp a couple inches, or tilting it a few degrees can >*drastically* change the recorded sound (sadly, it appears that microphone >placement is becoming a lost art as more and more "Pod[tm]" people run their >guitars straight into some digital box into a computer; I'll say right now, >that for rock guitar, absolutely NOTHING beats the sound of a Les Paul >through a Marshall tube amp recorded with an SM57 [inexpensive >industry-standard dynamic microphone] onto analog tape, preferably through a >preamp with good transformers, like a Neve or API; no digital approximation >comes close to THAT). So "true stereo" recording of an electric guitar >track isn't really a practical option (although adding room/distant >microphone signals to an existing close-miced guitar track can - depending >on the circumstance - greatly enhance a guitar sound, overcoming the main >problem with close-miced signals: the lack of ambience/environment/"room" >sound/reverb, which is otherwise done with some sort of artificial reverb). > >There are a few applications where recording "true stereo" tracks makes a >lot of sense: anything through a rotary speaker (Leslie), small-to-large >ensembles like string quartets or horn sections, or massed backing vocals >(useful because it allows the placement of individual singers across the >stereo spectrum). The latter is probably why the only "true >stereo"-recorded album that I'm aware of is the Beach Boys' 'Sunflower'. To >quote: > >"The songs on this record were recorded in true stereophonic sound; they are >not 16 monophonic signals placed somewhere between right and left speakers >blended together with echo, but rather total stereo capturing the ambience >of the room and the sound in perspective as heard naturally by the ear. >Although more difficult to perfect, this type of recording is far more >satisfying to hear, as will be demonstrated by playing this album." > >>http://www.tnt-audio.com/topics/realstereo_e.html >> >>One area where I frequently hear the stereo effect is through my bog- >>standard Nicam Sharp tv. When you are sat a certain distance and angle in >>front of the two little loudspeakers the speakers themselves seem to >>disappear and you can hear voices and other sounds way over to the left or >>to the right. You can hear the whole space, not merely left channel, right >>channel and middle. Interestingly the effect seems to be much more common >>and pronounced on Channel 5 than it is on BBC 1 or 2. I've always wondered >>how this works through headphones because it seems like the angle of the >>listener in relation to the two loudspeakers is crucial. > >Stereo perception through headphones vs. stereo perception from speakers are >two very different animals. What works for one won't necessarily work for >the other. For instance, the simple way to make "fake binaural" recordings >is to delay one channel of a stereo signal by a few milliseconds (true >"binaural" recordings [a fad in the late 70s, see Lou Reed's Arista LP's for >example] are those recorded with stereo microphones placed to simulate the >placement of one's ears - some studios have microphones for this purpose >that actually look like a head with mics where the ears should be). Heard >through headphones, this creates a perception of "space" because it sounds >like the delayed signal is coming from farther away than the un-delayed one. > However, when the two signals are blended together in the air, coming from >speakers, they'll interfere with each other, causing frequency cancellations >that make the music sound like certain pitches are lost, or that there's >some sort of weird "flanging" going on; this can also interfere with clarity >and make the sound "mushy". Proper stereo reproduction with speakers is >much trickier than with headphones, since speaker angle, height, and >listener location relative to the speakers can have a large effect on the >listener's perception. > >Blah blah blah ... ;^) > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Jan 22 15:32:48 2005 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:32:48 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops 'Spirit of the Wood' ( Live in England ) 2 CD set available now Message-ID: The new specially priced double live cd by The One Eyed Bishops is now available! 'Spirit of The Wood' ( Live in England 2004 ) was recorded during the 2004 summer tour. 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Allen at 'Celebration Fest', Bicester, England: June 12, 2004 Mike Burro: electric guitar/vocals, Phil Smith: electric guitar, Dan Tilbury: drums, Grunty McNaughton: electric guitar, Andy Redburn: bass/keyboards, Kev Ellis: harmonicas. backing vocals Tracks 7-10 recorded by Mike Burro at 'The Greenman', Barnet ( Greater London ), June 11th 2004 Mike Burro: electric guitar/vocals, Phil Smith: electric guitar, Andy Roberts: bass, Mitch 'the harp hog' Logan: harmonicas/vocals on 'Hootchie Cootchie Man', Roger Woods: drums, Paul Hirsh: keyboards Tracks 11-15 recorded by Kev Ellis at 'The RMA Tavern', Portsmouth, June 15th 2004 Mike Burro: electro-acoustic guitar, vocals, Phil Smith: electric guitar, Bob Taylor: bass, Dan Tilbury: drums, Kev Ellis: harmonicas, backing vocals Order info: Price $4.99 each ( all payments must be made in US Dollars ) method of payment: Paypal or U.S, Postal Money Order only!! Paypal payments should be made to Sloterdijk at msn.com by way of http://www.paypal.com Please be sure to select the 'non Ebay' or 'other goods' options, and puth the cd title in the body of your ebay payment message, ie 'Spirit of The Wood' Postage and Handling by location: ( if ordering multiple copies, send an e-mail to Sloterdijk at msn.com, for a shipping quote) U.S.A. $2.75 Canada: $2.85 United Kingdom: $4.45 Continental Europe: $4.65 Australia & New Zealand: $4.85 Japan & The Far East: $4.95 all other areas, please send an e-mail inquiry * If you are using a US Postal Money Order, please e-mail sloterdijk at msn.com for complete mailing information The One Eyed Bishops online: http://www.freewebs.com/oebs From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jan 23 08:23:43 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:23:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: MUSHROOM Special Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com January 23, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS Were you wondering what happened to us? I had some major computer problems after the holidays and finally had to bite the bullet and buy a new one. But we're back in action so expect lots of new radio shows in the weeks to come. Also, I'm working on a MAJOR expansion of the Aural Innovations mail order catalog, with lots of imported ("imported" to those of you in the US) CD's & LP's, and the ability to accept credit cards (not just through Paypal). Stay tuned... I hope to have that ready to go by late February. We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #118), which is an all Mushroom special, and The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #34), which is an all pfMENTUM label special. See the playlists below. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #118): MUSHROOM Special Mushroom are a San Francisco based band that play an exciting blend of psychedelia, krautrock, jazz, soul and progressive rock. Their music is mostly instrumental and all improvised, though they also excel at covering classic songs from the 70's. Two years ago we did our first Mushroom special (show #19 on The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown), which is still available to hear. That show featured selections from the first several Mushroom albums. This new two part show is EXTRA special because in addition to tracks from the latest Mushroom album, Glazed Popems, it also includes commentary from Mushroom drummer and band leader Pat Thomas who shares several UNRELEASED tracks from the Mushroom archives, including live performances with Daevid Allen, Kevin Ayers and Pete Brown (of Cream fame). Mushroom - "The Beards Are Back In Town" (from Glazed Popems) Pat Thomas Band - "untitled jam" (K?ln, Germany, 5/19/96, with Erik Pearson) Kevin Ayers & Mushroom - "Lady Rachel" (San Francisco, CA, 5/24/98) Mushroom - "The Pusher" (from Mad Dogs & San Franciscans) Mushroom - "live improv" (San Rafael, CA, 1/11/02) Mushroom with Pete Brown -"Theme From An Imaginary Western" Mushroom - "Isle Of Wight" (from Glazed Popems) Daevid Allen's University of Errors - "Why Are We Sleeping?" (Berkeley, CA, 7/17/99) Mushroom - "L'auberge" (from Glazed Popems) Mushroom - "Use Me" (unreleased studio track) Mushroom - "A Song Of Remembrance For A Time When Wife Swapping Was Considered Politically Correct" (from Analog Hi-Fi Surprise) Mushroom - "The Reeperbahn" (San Francisco, CA, 5/24/98) Mushroom - "Tonight Let's All Make Love In Oakland" (from Glazed Popems) The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #34): pfMENTUM Label Special The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown was created to give an audio spotlight to the exciting improvisational, experimental, and general avant-garde rock & jazz we received in the Aural Innovations mailbox. On this show we feature music from the pfMENTUM label. pfMENTUM is based in Ventura, CA and run by trumpet player and composer Jeff Kaiser, and features a variety of exciting free-improv and challenging music. Visit their web site at www.pfmentum.com. The Jeff Kaiser Ockodektet - "A Thousand of my Father's Most Subtle Syllogisms" (from 13 Themes for a Triskaidekaphoic) Steuart Liebig - tracks 2 & 12 (from Minim) Steuart Liebig/The Mentones - "Nowhere Calling" (from Locustland) Eric Barber - "Inner Conversation" (from Maybeck Constructions) Dottie Grossman & Michael Vlatkovich - "Henny Youngman Poems" (from Call And Response) Rich West - "Friends of the Vacuum" (from Bedouin Hornbook) Dottie Grossman & Michael Vlatkovich - "Six Short Cat Poems" (from Call And Response) Many Axes - "Drama Dairy" (from 2 Many Axes) Brad Dutz & John Holmes - "Tribute to Elvin" (from My Bongo) The Jeff Kaiser Ockodektet with the Diaz-Infante Sextet- "Suite Solutio: Part IV" (from split CD with The Ojai Camerata and Diaz-Infante Sextet) Dottie Grossman & Michael Vlatkovich - "Two About Geography" (from Call And Response) Tiner-Phillips-Schoenbeck Trio - "Clocks and Maps" (from Breathe In, Feed Out) http://Aural-Innovations.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Jan 24 18:59:11 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:59:11 -0500 Subject: HW: New Pix Online Message-ID: + + ++++ + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + + ++ + + A selection of recent tour pix now online (more to come) Direct URL's: Cambridge: http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/Camb04/cam_x04-00a.htm Astoria: http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/x2004/ast_x04-00.htm MISSION CONTROL: www.hawkwind.com + + + + MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + ++ + + + From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Mon Jan 24 19:19:22 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:19:22 -0000 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK folks, I need some recommendations. As I originally joined this list for the BOC part of it, I feel somewhat of a pretender, not having bought a Hawkwind CD since "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" back in 945 BC!!. However I feel the need to remedy this situation immediately. If you had to choose only five Hawkwind albums for a relative novice (I've got "Masters Of The Universe" and "Space Ritual", which would they be? It's my birthday soon and I know I'll be scratching my head wondering what to buy with the Amazon vouchers I'm bound to get. Cheers Tony From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jan 24 19:44:48 2005 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Alien Dream) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:14:48 +1030 Subject: Recommendations please Message-ID: I would recomend waiting for the re-releases and get: (Well buy any and all of anything that is re-released in the next year or so ) Quark Strangeness and charm Electric Tepee (Still available i think) Alien 4 / Love in space (or both) Levitation (Still available) and or Xenon Codex Warrior on the edge of time and then when you have those you will definatly be wanting more - so for the next 5 I'd say Palace Springs ASAM Space Bandits Choose your masques It is the bussiness of the future to be dangerous and then....ah hell just buy everything taking care not to get double ups of the re-re-re-released versions of certain releases by certain ex members unless you become a full on collector and just want it all :-) http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.soundclick.com/pro/?BandID=136265 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:49 AM Subject: Recommendations please > OK folks, I need some recommendations. As I originally joined this list > for > the BOC part of it, I feel somewhat of a pretender, not having bought a > Hawkwind CD since "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" back in 945 BC!!. However > I > feel the need to remedy this situation immediately. If you had to choose > only five Hawkwind albums for a relative novice (I've got "Masters Of The > Universe" and "Space Ritual", which would they be? It's my birthday soon > and I know I'll be scratching my head wondering what to buy with the > Amazon > vouchers I'm bound to get. > > Cheers > > Tony > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Jan 24 21:05:42 2005 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:05:42 EST Subject: Recommendations please Message-ID: SPACE RITUAL BILL welcome From Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM Mon Jan 24 23:30:30 2005 From: Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM (Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:30:30 EST Subject: Recommendations please Message-ID: I would say the following: Warrior on the edge of time Love in Space Alien 4 Quark Choose your Masque Not my favs in that order but a good mix. Then go from there... Dale From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Tue Jan 25 02:44:40 2005 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:44:40 +0000 Subject: Recommendations please Message-ID: Tony Bearing in mind that much of HW's music is not out of print ('Warrior on the Edge of Time', 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm'), I'd go for the following 5, in no particular order 'Live Chronicles' (mid '80s - almost heavy metal, Moorcock appearing on Griffin version) 'Electric Tepee' (early '90s power trio. Most akin to early 70s sound) 'Palace Springs' (early '90s live album. Worth it for Treadmill alone) 'Do not Panic' (mid 80s, live @ Stonehenge) '1999 Party' (mid 70s live - live set circa Mountain Grill) Stay well clear of anything resembling 'Bring me the head of Yuri Gagarin' - the sound quality is *awful* Whatever you buy, enjoy. Neil. -- Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44(0)1773 537000 From gg at SIO4.COM Tue Jan 25 03:46:48 2005 From: gg at SIO4.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:46:48 +0100 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <000601c50273$856dd730$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: Tony wrote: > OK folks, I need some recommendations. As I originally joined this list for absolutely the live album. You own my favourite (Space Ritual), you miss the others great live gig: Live '79 Live Chronicles Love in space 1999 party Live 1990 if you don't want to buy only live albums, you could change one of them (er, hard choice... i think you could not pick up love in space) for Sonick Attack or Levitation or Space Bandit. From nexus at PANIX.COM Tue Jan 25 09:53:34 2005 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:53:34 -0500 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <37994980.20050125094648@manoweb.com> Message-ID: I like the early stuff, so I'll go for: Doremi Fasol Latido In Search of Space Warrior on the Edge of Time Live Chronicles Quark, Strangeness and Charm JB From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jan 25 10:01:10 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:01:10 -0500 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <200501251453.j0PErYn02085@panix5.panix.com> Message-ID: Epocheclipse 3CD 30th anniversary set Many of the best songs from each era--and it sounds and looks fantastic. Brian Favorite disk> 2 From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Jan 25 10:31:52 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:31:52 +0100 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <192.380f8a09.2f272566@aol.com> Message-ID: 1) Canterbury Fayre 2001 2) Live Chronicles 3) Live 79 4) Live Chicago 21.03.1974 5) Levitation From cea at CARLAZ.COM Tue Jan 25 10:32:14 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:32:14 +0000 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <000601c50273$856dd730$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: On 25-Jan-2005 00:19, Tony wrote: > OK folks, I need some recommendations. As I originally joined this list for > the BOC part of it, I feel somewhat of a pretender, not having bought a > Hawkwind CD since "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" back in 945 BC!!. However I > feel the need to remedy this situation immediately. If you had to choose > only five Hawkwind albums for a relative novice (I've got "Masters Of The > Universe" and "Space Ritual", which would they be? It's my birthday soon > and I know I'll be scratching my head wondering what to buy with the Amazon > vouchers I'm bound to get. Well, if you own _Space Ritual_, then you own what I reckon in the one HW album to own if you only own one :) And I'd definitely list _Hall of the Mountain Grill_ among my "Vital 5", too! Moving on from there, I'd definitely suggest _Palace Springs_ (barring the pointless "Acid Test", pretty great latter-day HW and my favorite version of Assault'n'Battery>Golden Void). To cover other periods of the band, I should recommend _Live Chronicles_ (which has lots of great tracks despite appearing it's "more Spinal Tap than Spinal Tap" look :) and I'd like to recommend a Calvert-era compilation like _Tales from Atomhenge_, excepting that that specific one is probably out of print. There's great Calvert-era stuff, but none of the albums really stands out on its own for me. But failing a good Calvert comp ... I guess I'd go back to _Doremi Fasol Latido_ which, despite having most of its material appear live on the utterly indispensible _Space Ritual_, is worth it for the bass solo on "Time We Left" alone! :) But all that said, the recommendation of just buying the _Epoch Eclipse_ 3CD set was a good one :) It's only 9 quid on Amazon.co.uk for chrissakes! In fact, just do that anyway :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jan 25 13:36:48 2005 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:36:48 -0500 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <41F6667E.5040207@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:32:14PM +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > it's "more Spinal Tap than Spinal Tap" look :) Well, I guess they were just turning the STness up to 11 :-) More seriously: - Someone mentioned "It Is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous". Just so's you don't get taken by surprise ... this is one of my faves (which unfortunately got nicked from my car a while ago :-( I really need to replace it) -- but a lot of people here disparage it as "Hawkwind's techno album". - "Live 79" has also been mentioned. Be aware that there's also a two-CD variant called "Complete 79". Same cover art. I'm guessing it's a superset of Live 79; others here will know for sure. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The animal that coils in a circle is the serpent; that's why so many cults and myths of the serpent exist, because it's hard to represent the return of the sun by the coiling of a hippopotamus. - Umberto Eco, "Foucault's Pendulum" From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 25 14:07:24 2005 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:07:24 -0000 Subject: Recommendations please Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" > > - "Live 79" has also been mentioned. Be aware that there's > also a two-CD variant called "Complete 79". Same cover art. > I'm guessing it's a superset of Live 79; others here will > know for sure. Same tour, different gig (Hammersmith instead of St Albans), vastly inferior sound quality. Ian From arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL Tue Jan 25 14:47:33 2005 From: arjanh at WOLFPACK.NL (Arjan Hulsebos) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:47:33 +0100 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <41F6667E.5040207@carlaz.com> Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >On 25-Jan-2005 00:19, Tony wrote: > > >>OK folks, I need some recommendations. As I originally joined this list for >>the BOC part of it, I feel somewhat of a pretender, not having bought a >>Hawkwind CD since "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" back in 945 BC!!. However I >>feel the need to remedy this situation immediately. If you had to choose >>only five Hawkwind albums for a relative novice (I've got "Masters Of The >>Universe" and "Space Ritual", which would they be? It's my birthday soon >>and I know I'll be scratching my head wondering what to buy with the Amazon >>vouchers I'm bound to get. >> >> > >Well, if you own _Space Ritual_, then you own what I reckon in the one >HW album to own if you only own one :) > > Yes, definitely. >Moving on from there, I'd definitely suggest _Palace Springs_ (barring >the pointless "Acid Test", pretty great latter-day HW and my favorite >version of Assault'n'Battery>Golden Void). > There's another reason for getting this one: Bridget Wishart's voice. Such a lovely voice, a shame she wasn't longer in the band. >But failing a good Calvert comp ... > The Hawklords Live ain't too bad, nor is Atomhenge. Another one I'd suggest is Collecters Series Vol. 2: Choose Your Masques. Gr, Arjan H From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jan 25 15:36:23 2005 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:36:23 -0500 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <00b701c50311$1adc4de0$4a4a4154@SN037539420006> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 07:07:24PM -0000, Ian Abrahams wrote: > Same tour, different gig (Hammersmith instead of St Albans), vastly inferior > sound quality. Thanks for the correction. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The animal that coils in a circle is the serpent; that's why so many cults and myths of the serpent exist, because it's hard to represent the return of the sun by the coiling of a hippopotamus. - Umberto Eco, "Foucault's Pendulum" From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Tue Jan 25 18:01:32 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:01:32 -0000 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <000601c50273$856dd730$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: Er....thanks to everyone for recommending the following 25 Hawkwind CDs. They appear in order of the highest number of recommendation. Live Chronicles Love in Space Collectors Series Vol 2: Choose your Masques Epocheclipse 3CD 30th anniversary set Levitation Palace Springs Quark Strangeness and Charm Warrior On The Edge Of Time 1999 Party Alien 4 Doremi Fasol Latido Electric Tepee Space Bandits ASAM Canterbury Fayre 2001 Do not Panic In Search of Space It is the Busness of the future to be dangerous Live 1990 Live 79 Live Chicago 21.03.1974 Sonick Attack Tales from Atomhenge The Hawklords Live Xenon Codex Live Chronicles must be good as it was recommended on no less than five separate occaisions. Epocheclipse got three recommendations. ?9 for 3cds on Amazon looks a steal!! Anyway, I think I'll start with the top ones and see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: 25 January 2005 00:19 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Recommendations please OK folks, I need some recommendations. As I originally joined this list for the BOC part of it, I feel somewhat of a pretender, not having bought a Hawkwind CD since "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" back in 945 BC!!. However I feel the need to remedy this situation immediately. If you had to choose only five Hawkwind albums for a relative novice (I've got "Masters Of The Universe" and "Space Ritual", which would they be? It's my birthday soon and I know I'll be scratching my head wondering what to buy with the Amazon vouchers I'm bound to get. Cheers Tony From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jan 25 20:27:48 2005 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Alien Dream) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:57:48 +1030 Subject: Recommendations please Message-ID: I think its a great album. Futuristic Space Rock. Which is what Hawkwind seems to be about (in their day) - pushing the boundaries of expectation and breaking/bending the rules. Techno and trance are just evolved forms of space rock if it is looked at closely but I know how frightening change is for a great majority of people(myself included on some issues). For example the way our parents etc hated Space Rock when it arrived on our/their stereos. There's an interesting thought.... http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.soundclick.com/pro/?BandID=136265 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:06 AM Subject: Re: Recommendations please > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 03:32:14PM +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> it's "more Spinal Tap than Spinal Tap" look :) > > Well, I guess they were just turning the STness up to 11 :-) > > More seriously: > - Someone mentioned "It Is the Business of the Future to be > Dangerous". Just so's you don't get taken by surprise ... > this is one of my faves (which unfortunately got nicked from > my car a while ago :-( I really need to replace it) -- but a > lot of people here disparage it as "Hawkwind's techno album". > > - "Live 79" has also been mentioned. Be aware that there's > also a two-CD variant called "Complete 79". Same cover art. > I'm guessing it's a superset of Live 79; others here will > know for sure. > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > The animal that coils in a circle is the serpent; that's why so > many cults and myths of the serpent exist, because it's hard to > represent the return of the sun by the coiling of a hippopotamus. > - Umberto Eco, "Foucault's Pendulum" > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jan 25 21:22:32 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:22:32 -0500 Subject: Recommendations please Message-ID: Hi Tony, On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:01:32 -0000, Tony wrote: >Er....thanks to everyone for recommending the following 25 Hawkwind CDs. Yes, this is a problem when getting recommendations from HW fans. There are *lots* of CD's, and many are very different, so you may find that different folks have vastly different opinions about them. As some people have mentioned, some of the better albums are sadly out-of- print; I've indicated those on your list with [OOP]. >They appear in order of the highest number of recommendation. > >Live Chronicles >Love in Space [OOP] >Collectors Series Vol 2: Choose your Masques >Epocheclipse 3CD 30th anniversary set >Levitation >Palace Springs >Quark Strangeness and Charm [OOP] >Warrior On The Edge Of Time [OOP] >1999 Party >Alien 4 >Doremi Fasol Latido >Electric Tepee >Space Bandits >ASAM (aka 'Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music') [OOP] >Canterbury Fayre 2001 >Do not Panic >In Search of Space >It is the Busness of the future to be dangerous >Live 1990 >Live 79 >Live Chicago 21.03.1974 [same album as 'The 1999 Party'] >Sonick Attack >Tales from Atomhenge [OOP] >The Hawklords Live >Xenon Codex > >Live Chronicles must be good as it was recommended on no less than five >separate occaisions. I enjoy it, but as Carl mentioned, beware of the Spinal Tap-isms. I wouldn't recommend starting with it unless you really do like 80s metal (not that it's a typical 80s metal album at all!). I would also recommend not starting with these albums, because they're live albums of somewhat rough sound quality: Hawklords Live Complete 1979 (2-CD version; the one-CD version sounds totally "pro") Do not Panic Collectors Series Vol 2: Choose your Masques Better sound quality can be found on the following live albums: 1999 Party (aka Chicago 21.03.74) Live 79 (single CD version) Palace Springs Live 1990 (aka Nottingham 1990) Love In Space (currently available as DVD, but not CD) Canterbury Fayre 2001 >Epocheclipse got three recommendations. ?9 for 3cds >on Amazon looks a steal!! I would strongly recommend starting with this one. It should give you a pretty good overview of which eras of HW you like the most, making your subsequent decisions easier ... >Anyway, I think I'll start with the top ones and >see what happens. Good luck! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Jan 25 22:12:04 2005 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:12:04 -0500 Subject: HW: New Pix Online In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Again great pictures. But could someone explain to me the plethora of clipboards? Is the band reading lyrics off them? Even Dave holds one at some point. Looks like a "blinding" gig as you all say on your side of the Pond, great stage show. Now lets hope they got a good Sndbd of it so we can get an official release of this show... Maybe even a DVD!! Mike Montfort -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Rik Rx Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 6:59 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: New Pix Online + + ++++ + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + + ++ + + A selection of recent tour pix now online (more to come) Direct URL's: Cambridge: http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/Camb04/cam_x04-00a.htm Astoria: http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/x2004/ast_x04-00.htm MISSION CONTROL: www.hawkwind.com + + + + MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + ++ + + + From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Jan 25 22:16:22 2005 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:16:22 -0500 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <000601c50273$856dd730$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: Electric Teepee Space Ritual Levitation Astounding Chronicles Live Warrior -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:19 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Recommendations please OK folks, I need some recommendations. As I originally joined this list for the BOC part of it, I feel somewhat of a pretender, not having bought a Hawkwind CD since "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" back in 945 BC!!. However I feel the need to remedy this situation immediately. If you had to choose only five Hawkwind albums for a relative novice (I've got "Masters Of The Universe" and "Space Ritual", which would they be? It's my birthday soon and I know I'll be scratching my head wondering what to buy with the Amazon vouchers I'm bound to get. Cheers Tony From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jan 25 23:01:38 2005 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Alien Dream) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:31:38 +1030 Subject: HW: New Pix Online Message-ID: Looks like its all part of the - scientists in their lab coats effect. eg; props http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.soundclick.com/pro/?BandID=136265 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Montfort" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: HW: New Pix Online > Again great pictures. > > But could someone explain to me the plethora of clipboards? Is the band > reading lyrics off them? Even Dave holds one at some point. Looks like a > "blinding" gig as you all say on your side of the Pond, great stage show. > Now lets hope they got a good Sndbd of it so we can get an official > release > of this show... Maybe even a DVD!! > > Mike Montfort > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Rik Rx > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 6:59 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: New Pix Online > > > + + ++++ + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + + ++ + + > > > A selection of recent tour pix now online (more to come) > > Direct URL's: > > Cambridge: http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/Camb04/cam_x04-00a.htm > > Astoria: http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/x2004/ast_x04-00.htm > > MISSION CONTROL: www.hawkwind.com > > > + + + + MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + ++ + + + > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Jan 25 23:02:36 2005 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Alien Dream) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:32:36 +1030 Subject: HW: New Pix Online Message-ID: ps the stage setup looks sensational http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.soundclick.com/pro/?BandID=136265 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Montfort" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: HW: New Pix Online > Again great pictures. > > But could someone explain to me the plethora of clipboards? Is the band > reading lyrics off them? Even Dave holds one at some point. Looks like a > "blinding" gig as you all say on your side of the Pond, great stage show. > Now lets hope they got a good Sndbd of it so we can get an official > release > of this show... Maybe even a DVD!! > > Mike Montfort > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] > On > Behalf Of Rik Rx > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 6:59 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: New Pix Online > > > + + ++++ + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + + ++ + + > > > A selection of recent tour pix now online (more to come) > > Direct URL's: > > Cambridge: http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/Camb04/cam_x04-00a.htm > > Astoria: http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/x2004/ast_x04-00.htm > > MISSION CONTROL: www.hawkwind.com > > > + + + + MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + ++ + + + > From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Jan 26 05:39:00 2005 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:39:00 +0000 Subject: HW: New Pix Online Message-ID: Mike Montfort wrote: > could someone explain to me the plethora of clipboards They contain secret cloning formulae..... From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jan 26 05:44:48 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:44:48 +0000 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <004801c50355$6a620780$6401a8c0@deepthought> Message-ID: On 26-Jan-2005 03:16, Mike Montfort wrote: > Electric Teepee > Space Ritual > Levitation > Astounding > Chronicles Live > Warrior I will definitely add a word of support for _Electric Teepee_. IMO, it's one of the strongest latter-day Hawkwind albums. "LSD", "The Secret Agent", "Mask of Morning", "Sadness Runs Deep", and "Right to Decide" are all quite solid tracks, and even the "Snake Dance" instrumental has a good vibe. Admittedly the rest of the album is chalked up as being pretty much filler in my book -- but five good tracks is not at all bad as these things go! I've often thought you could make a _really_ great album by taking those and putting them together with the other highlights of Hawkwind's '90s output :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jan 26 06:08:48 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:48 +0000 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 26-Jan-2005 02:22, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:01:32 -0000, Tony wrote: >>Live Chronicles must be good as it was recommended on no less than five >>separate occaisions. > > I enjoy it, but as Carl mentioned, beware of the Spinal Tap-isms. I > wouldn't recommend starting with it unless you really do like 80s metal > (not that it's a typical 80s metal album at all!). Indeed. More like the idea of 80s metal heavily filtered through Brockesque riff-festing (and thereby quite a lot cooler than quite a lot of 80s metal :) It's like Hawkwind, but not as you know it. (Well ... I guess that's true of most HW albums :) And as a re-invention of Hawkwind, I think it's pretty successfull, though when I used to get together with friends to watch the concert video of Live Chronicles back in university, we were always astounded that it *post-dated* Spinal Tap! Maybe that cloak Brock was wearing was a leftover prop from the Stonehenge set :) Still, if you check your irony at the door and raise your d20 on high, _LC_ is pretty cool, especially the Griffin release with all the extra tracks restored. The material drawn from the studio _CotBS_ album is all great live (CotBS may have been HW's best 80s album): Song of the Swords, The Sea King, Needle Gun ... and there's plenty of good stuff not found (or seldom found) elsewhere: "Dragons and Fables", "Moonglum", "Dragon Song". I also quite like this version of "MotU", and the appearance of "Magnu" is cool. >>Epocheclipse got three recommendations. ?9 for 3cds >>on Amazon looks a steal!! > > I would strongly recommend starting with this one. It should give you a > pretty good overview of which eras of HW you like the most, making your > subsequent decisions easier ... It's also got a few key songs that are, I think, otherwise out-of-print. Almost tempted to get it myself :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jan 26 06:08:52 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:52 +0000 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <41F6A255.10209@wolfpack.nl> Message-ID: On 25-Jan-2005 19:47, Arjan Hulsebos wrote: > Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >>Moving on from there, I'd definitely suggest _Palace Springs_ (barring >>the pointless "Acid Test", pretty great latter-day HW and my favorite >>version of Assault'n'Battery>Golden Void). >> > There's another reason for getting this one: Bridget Wishart's voice. Such a lovely voice, a shame she wasn't longer in the band. Actually, though I don't count "Back in the Box" as bad, it doesn't do a lot for me either -- though perhaps more because it's not such a great song rather than anything to do with Bridget's voice. I thought "Images" from _Space Bandits_ was quite good, though -- just about the strongest track on the album as recorded, really. (Live versions of "Out of the Shadows" rule mightily, but the studio version on the album sounds weak to me.) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Wed Jan 26 06:08:50 2005 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:08:50 -0000 Subject: BRAIN: ALbert on the wireless Message-ID: www.totalrock.com Malcolm Dome talks to Strumpfest bands Chariot and Lunatic. He also chats to former Blue Oyster Cult drummer Albert Bouchard about his current band, the Brain Surgeons, who play in London on February 11 (3-6pm) today. Si "Peace, Love and Armageddon" - New Album By Roxie77 - Out Now from www.roxie77.com ------------ The Alice Cooper Trivia File: http://www.sickthingsuk.co.uk UK Unofficial Alice Cooper Convention: http://www.sickcon.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 25/01/2005 From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Jan 26 06:15:19 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:15:19 +0000 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <41F77A40.9000307@carlaz.com> Message-ID: On 26-Jan-2005 11:08, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > The material drawn from the studio _CotBS_ album is > all great live (CotBS may have been HW's best 80s album): Song of the > Swords, The Sea King, Needle Gun ... and there's plenty of good stuff > not found (or seldom found) elsewhere: "Dragons and Fables", "Moonglum", > "Dragon Song". Ah, I meant "Dreaming City" rather than "Dragon Song" there, the latter being some Mike Moorcock poetic ranting (appropriate to the setting, but not Greatest Hits material! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From coral at APORT.RU Wed Jan 26 07:34:54 2005 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:34:54 +0300 Subject: HW: New Pix Online Message-ID: Maybe better if they release new album first :). > "blinding" gig as you all say on your side of the Pond, great stage show. > Now lets hope they got a good Sndbd of it so we can get an official release > of this show... Maybe even a DVD!! From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jan 26 07:45:51 2005 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:45:51 +0800 Subject: HW: New Pix Online Message-ID: > Maybe better if they release new album first :). Now that's a good idea :-) From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Jan 26 11:25:35 2005 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:25:35 -0500 Subject: Recommendations please In-Reply-To: <004e01c50277$12dacc60$f1ca8890@EMGRoom> Message-ID: Alien Dream wrote: > and then....ah hell just buy everything No, no, no. Not _Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gargarian_. (-8 John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Jan 26 22:48:21 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:48:21 -0500 Subject: HW: Astoria Pix Updated ! Message-ID: + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + +++ 40 more ASTORIA Xmas 2004 pix now online http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/x2004/ast_x04-00a.htm More to come, plus extra Cambridge pix in the next few days...... + +++ MESSAGE ENDS + ++ ++ www.hawkwind.com From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Jan 27 03:36:26 2005 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Alien Dream) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:06:26 +1030 Subject: HW: Astoria Pix Updated ! Message-ID: the pix are fantastic. thanks. looks like a very trippy stage set/lights etc. Wish I could have been there. Good one! http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.soundclick.com/pro/?BandID=136265 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Rx" To: Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: Re: HW: Astoria Pix Updated ! >+ ++ + STAR WARRIORS + +++ > > 40 more ASTORIA Xmas 2004 pix now online > > http://www.hawkwind.com/gigs/x2004/ast_x04-00a.htm > > More to come, plus extra Cambridge pix in > the next few days...... > > + +++ MESSAGE ENDS + ++ ++ > > www.hawkwind.com > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Jan 27 10:45:51 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:45:51 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: Total Rock Message-ID: Can anyone give the gist of Albert's interview yesterday? I looked on the Total Rock site this morning and it didn't look as if you could listen to previously aired shows. Thanks, Brian --- Brian Halligan blackblade at bhalligan.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 27 10:54:21 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:54:21 +0000 Subject: Brain: London In-Reply-To: <0f6001c4f313$c208eeb0$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Si Halley wrote: > >From Total Rock > > BRAIN SURGEONS CONFIRM LONDON DATE > The Brain Surgeons, featuring former Blue Oyster Cult drummer Albert Bouchard and ex-Manowar guitarist Ross The Boss, have confirmed > a date at LOndon's 100 Club on February 11. Get tickets via the Ticketmaster link at www.totalrock.com Just in case anyone else did what I did and went to the Totalrock site, where there's no mention of the Brain Surgeons that my eyes or their search engine can reveal, and then went to Ticketmaster who have also got no idea about tBS, the following URL (with its Ticket*web* link) may be useful: http://www.bangbang-live.com/brainsurgeons.html I've got my and Kirsten's tickets and I've managed to talk two non-list members into coming along; if everyone does the same it should be a busy little show :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: The Eastern Dark - _Where Are All The Single Girls?_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Thu Jan 27 11:28:46 2005 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:28:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: Theremin bra... Message-ID: Hey folks... http://www.audioartists.org/video.html Could this sort of thing have a place in space rock? Grakkl (FAA) From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Jan 28 05:47:17 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:47:17 -0000 Subject: Off: Theramin Message-ID: I thought theramin was a drug .... until i chanced across a band at the local pub - a wailing, japanese, female synth player accompanied by a chap on the theramin - unfortuntely the combination had many of us (and we are hard core music fans) diving for the 'quieter' end of the pub. However I can definitely see the potential for space rock - just need someone to master the thing, something I have yet to witness. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3278&item =3778561508&rd=1&tc=photo cheers Maxine p.s. Here's to an excellent 2005 and a smashing Hawkfest (have we found a site yet?... I could highly recommend the 'Robin Hill Country Park' on the Isle of Wight - it's got it's own miniture village and only needs a couple of marquees and a stage to make it the perfect location for Hawkfans (it has a lovely forest interspersed with adventure playground, and a large toboggan ride) - I attended this years 'Bestival' (most excellent), there so they do host festivals.... if you want more details shout.... From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri Jan 28 21:34:21 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 02:34:21 -0000 Subject: Here & Now Message-ID: You should hear their "Space And Time" CD - that is just AWESOME!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Blue Wizard To: Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:56 PM Subject: OFF: Here & Now > I am incessently listening to Here & Now's "All Over The Show" and I just > can't get over the awesome track "Open Door" or the lyric "A Flaming Lance, > A Whirling Dance, Shining Like A Beacon".... quite excellent to relive > those childhood years of the late 70's with such rousing and inspiring > elevated anarchist hippie consciousness lyricism. > > > I wonder what is the line up on this album and when excactly was it > released. Anyone? > > Chr. aka FRIGG aka Blue Wizard > > "I was the commie from Luxembourg Jim Morrison in the last life, ye olde > hunters's Christmas "ham" who made 'Hammond Cheese' with The Doors.... > Maloney Baloney and The Black Mahoney!!! > -Thee Eville Kinge Rippe Offe From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jan 29 02:58:08 2005 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:58:08 -0000 Subject: Here & Now Message-ID: I would second that; a stunning CD! Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyberkrel" To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:34 AM Subject: Re: Here & Now > You should hear their "Space And Time" CD - that is just AWESOME!!! > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Blue Wizard > To: > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:56 PM > Subject: OFF: Here & Now > > > > I am incessently listening to Here & Now's "All Over The Show" and I just > > can't get over the awesome track "Open Door" or the lyric "A Flaming > Lance, > > A Whirling Dance, Shining Like A Beacon".... quite excellent to relive > > those childhood years of the late 70's with such rousing and inspiring > > elevated anarchist hippie consciousness lyricism. > > > > > > I wonder what is the line up on this album and when excactly was it > > released. Anyone? > > > > Chr. aka FRIGG aka Blue Wizard > > > > "I was the commie from Luxembourg Jim Morrison in the last life, ye olde > > hunters's Christmas "ham" who made 'Hammond Cheese' with The Doors.... > > Maloney Baloney and The Black Mahoney!!! > > -Thee Eville Kinge Rippe Offe From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Jan 29 04:24:01 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 04:24:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock and Alchemical Radio shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com January 23, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #119), and Alchemical Radio (show #78). You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #119) Spacehead ? ?Mechanoid Dream/Dark Star? (from Live @ Hawkfest 2003) Krel ? ?Space Trip? (from Out Of Space) AcidGuitarKing ? ?Death of Sun? (from Colors of Sounds) Radio Dystopia ? ?Space Voodoo? (from Soundclick.com page) Zodiac Laser ? ?Cybernaut? (from What?s Up, Mutants: Volume 1) Charles Rice Goff III ? ?Spacey Jingle Bells? (from Laughing All The Way: Five Jingle Bells) SubArachnoid Space ? ?Ourobouros? (from The Red Veil) Fit & Limo ? ?Golden Floor? (from Terra Incognita) Alien Dream ? ?Planet Chaos? (from Dogon Dance) Josh?s Appletree ? ?Groovy Space Chick? (from Atomic Fruit) Elevator ? ?Where Is The End?? (from August) Avarus ? ?Herra Ykk?nen? (from J?ttil?isrotta) The Neurohumors ? ?Rise of the Phoenix? (excerpt) (from Live in San Francisco 2004) Alchemical Radio (show #78) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends Terri~B and The Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label and features some of the best Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Metal, and adventurous Pop that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions Paul Bullock ? 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"Reap What We Sow" http://Aural-Innovations.com From denis at PTI-INC.DE Fri Jan 28 09:39:33 2005 From: denis at PTI-INC.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:39:33 +0100 Subject: Off: Theramin In-Reply-To: <41FA1835.8917.5EAC92@localhost> Message-ID: On Jan 28, 2005, at 11:47 Uhr, Maxine Wesley wrote: > However I can definitely see the potential for space rock - just > need someone to master the thing, something I have yet to witness. man Clara Rockmore (c)IAO D+SCNR ;-> From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sat Jan 29 12:23:56 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:23:56 -0800 Subject: more cowbell Message-ID: This ran in the Washtington Post today. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46074-2005Jan28.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sat Jan 29 19:57:49 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:57:49 -0500 Subject: more cowbell Message-ID: So what was it, since the newspaper wanted me to sign in... tim gary shindler wrote: > > This ran in the Washtington Post today. > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46074-2005Jan28.html > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM Sat Jan 29 20:23:25 2005 From: bewlay68 at YAHOO.COM (gary shindler) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:23:25 -0800 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ') ; document.write('') ; document.write('') ; document.write('') ; document.writeln ( '' ); document.write('') ; document.write('') ;}//-->It's a vamp about the SNL "Behind the Music" skit about "Don't Fear the Reaper" with a brief synopsis of a concert. Here it is... Blue Oyster Cult, Playing Along With 'More Cowbell' By Paul Farhi Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, January 29, 2005; Page C01 There was something missing the other night when Blue Oyster Cult, the '70s stadium rockers, kicked into their signature song, "(Don't Fear) The Reaper," in a gig at the Rams Head Tavern in Annapolis. Fans of the band, and of "Saturday Night Live," knew exactly what the song needed: More cowbell. Ever since April 2000, when "SNL" first broadcast a skit parodying "Reaper's" recording session, the 29-year-old rock anthem has been inseparable from the humble cowbell. And perhaps from Christopher Walken's portrayal of "legendary" record producer Bruce Dickinson, who repeatedly pleads in the skit for "more cowbell." In fact, a kind of cult has sprung up around the Blue Oyster Cult bit and its two magic words. "More cowbell" appears on T-shirts, coffee mugs and buttons, and the spoof is still discussed and debated on Web sites across the Internet. It has become a stock witticism in clubs and bars as bands begin to play (indeed, one group in Upstate New York named itself More Cowbell). Snippets from the skit pop up regularly on the radio. When the cable entertainment channel E! named its 101 Most Unforgettable 'SNL' Moments last fall, "Cowbell" ranked among the top five. For those who've never seen it, the sketch's hilarity probably defies a printed description (it's best to see it for yourself at mknx.com/v/cowbell.wmv). Suffice to say, Will Ferrell, who wrote the skit, plays a band member named Gene Frenkle whose specialty is the cowbell (and whose shirt fails to cover his flopping gut). Walken, ever intense, is the producer who is determined -- good taste and common sense notwithstanding -- to get more cowbell into the song's recording. He urges Frenkle to "really explore the studio space" while whaling away on his cowbell -- which Ferrell does, in a breathtaking bit of physical comedy. Despite the obvious irritation of the rest of the band, Walken's Dickinson persists. "Guess what?" he says between takes. "I got a FE-ver, and the only prescription . . . is more cowbell!" Walken, an actor who has specialized in portraying the slightly unhinged, has described the six-minute sketch as career-defining. "People . . . I don't know . . . I hear about it everywhere I go," he told the Orlando Sentinel in October. "It's been years, and all anybody brings up is 'cowbell.' I guess . . . you never know what's gonna click." Among the more amused viewers of the bit are the actual members of Blue Oyster Cult. "We didn't know it was coming," says Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser, co-founder and lead guitarist of the group. "We all thought it was phenomenal. We're huge Christopher Walken fans." He adds, "I've probably seen it 20 times and I'm still not tired of it." Roeser says the TV sketch accurately portrayed the look of the band in its mid-'70s heyday, but took some artistic license with a few details. For example, "SNL" player Chris Parnell, portraying the group's lead singer, is referred to in the skit as "Eric." That presumably would be a reference to longtime band member Eric Bloom, but it was actually Roeser, not Bloom, who was in front of the group when it made "Reaper." And while there really is a record producer named Bruce Dickinson, he had nothing to do with the recording of the song. (Dickinson did work on some of the group's later releases.) What's more, the cowbell skit is presented as an episode of VH1's "Behind the Music," a real show that chronicles the lurid rise and fall of real-life bands. But Blue Oyster Cult never really was a "Behind the Music" kind of band. "We did our share of drugs, but we never really [expletive] up," Roeser says. In fact, after a break in the mid-'80s and a few lineup changes, the group (featuring three of its members from the 1970s) has toured continuously, and plays about 80 to 90 dates a year. Roeser said people still ask the band about poor Gene Frenkle, whose image appears in a still frame at the end of the sketch with the words "In Memoriam. 1950-2000." Roeser breaks into a laugh. "That's a total fiction," he says. "They made up that character." Fact is, there is a cowbell on "Reaper." If you listen closely to it on oldies radio, you can make it out in the background. But it was an afterthought. The song was recorded without it, and was added as an overdub at the last minute. According to former BOC bassist Joe Bouchard, an unnamed producer asked his brother, drummer Albert Bouchard, to play the cowbell after the fact. "Albert thought he was crazy," Bouchard told the Asbury Park (N.J.) Press in 2000. "But he put all this tape around a cowbell and played it. It really pulled the track together." During its show at the Rams Head on Thursday night, the five-member group dusted off its hits from three decades ago, including "R.U. Ready 2 Rock," "Burnin' for You" and "Godzilla." Then, after a long guitar preamble, it snapped into its set-closer, "(Don't Fear) The Reaper." The familiar sweet notes swooped and soared, drawing the mostly middle-aged crowd back to its headbanging youth. Of course, it could have used . . . well, you know. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sun Jan 30 06:46:48 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:46:48 +0000 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: <20050129172356.3928.qmail@web53903.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Whoa, who knew it was a meme? :) I gotta get a "more cowbell" t-shirt to wear when I go to salsa clubs :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Jan 30 08:43:20 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 08:43:20 -0500 Subject: more cowbell Message-ID: thanks Gary tim gary shindler wrote: > > ') ; document.write('') ; document.write('') ; document.write('') ; > document.writeln ( '' ); document.write('') ; document.write('') ;}//-->It's a > vamp about the SNL "Behind the Music" skit about "Don't Fear the Reaper" with a > brief synopsis of a concert. Here it is... > > > Blue Oyster Cult, Playing Along With 'More Cowbell' > By Paul Farhi > Washington Post Staff Writer > Saturday, January 29, 2005; Page C01 > > There was something missing the other night when Blue Oyster Cult, the '70s > stadium rockers, kicked into their signature song, "(Don't Fear) The Reaper," in > a gig at the Rams Head Tavern in Annapolis. > > Fans of the band, and of "Saturday Night Live," knew exactly what the song > needed: More cowbell. > > Ever since April 2000, when "SNL" first broadcast a skit parodying "Reaper's" > recording session, the 29-year-old rock anthem has been inseparable from the > humble cowbell. And perhaps from Christopher Walken's portrayal of "legendary" > record producer Bruce Dickinson, who repeatedly pleads in the skit for "more > cowbell." > > In fact, a kind of cult has sprung up around the Blue Oyster Cult bit and its two > magic words. "More cowbell" appears on T-shirts, coffee mugs and buttons, and the > spoof is still discussed and debated on Web sites across the Internet. It has > become a stock witticism in clubs and bars as bands begin to play (indeed, one > group in Upstate New York named itself More Cowbell). Snippets from the skit pop > up regularly on the radio. When the cable entertainment channel E! named its 101 > Most Unforgettable 'SNL' Moments last fall, "Cowbell" ranked among the top five. > > For those who've never seen it, the sketch's hilarity probably defies a printed > description (it's best to see it for yourself at mknx.com/v/cowbell.wmv). Suffice > to say, Will Ferrell, who wrote the skit, plays a band member named Gene Frenkle > whose specialty is the cowbell (and whose shirt fails to cover his flopping gut). > Walken, ever intense, is the producer who is determined -- good taste and common > sense notwithstanding -- to get more cowbell into the song's recording. He urges > Frenkle to "really explore the studio space" while whaling away on his cowbell -- > which Ferrell does, in a breathtaking bit of physical comedy. > > Despite the obvious irritation of the rest of the band, Walken's Dickinson > persists. "Guess what?" he says between takes. "I got a FE-ver, and the only > prescription . . . is more cowbell!" > > Walken, an actor who has specialized in portraying the slightly unhinged, has > described the six-minute sketch as career-defining. "People . . . I don't know . > . . I hear about it everywhere I go," he told the Orlando Sentinel in October. > "It's been years, and all anybody brings up is 'cowbell.' I guess . . . you never > know what's gonna click." > > Among the more amused viewers of the bit are the actual members of Blue Oyster > Cult. "We didn't know it was coming," says Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser, > co-founder and lead guitarist of the group. "We all thought it was phenomenal. > We're huge Christopher Walken fans." He adds, "I've probably seen it 20 times and > I'm still not tired of it." > > Roeser says the TV sketch accurately portrayed the look of the band in its > mid-'70s heyday, but took some artistic license with a few details. For example, > "SNL" player Chris Parnell, portraying the group's lead singer, is referred to in > the skit as "Eric." That presumably would be a reference to longtime band member > Eric Bloom, but it was actually Roeser, not Bloom, who was in front of the group > when it made "Reaper." And while there really is a record producer named Bruce > Dickinson, he had nothing to do with the recording of the song. (Dickinson did > work on some of the group's later releases.) > > What's more, the cowbell skit is presented as an episode of VH1's "Behind the > Music," a real show that chronicles the lurid rise and fall of real-life bands. > But Blue Oyster Cult never really was a "Behind the Music" kind of band. "We did > our share of drugs, but we never really [expletive] up," Roeser says. In fact, > after a break in the mid-'80s and a few lineup changes, the group (featuring > three of its members from the 1970s) has toured continuously, and plays about 80 > to 90 dates a year. > > Roeser said people still ask the band about poor Gene Frenkle, whose image > appears in a still frame at the end of the sketch with the words "In Memoriam. > 1950-2000." > > Roeser breaks into a laugh. "That's a total fiction," he says. "They made up that > character." > > Fact is, there is a cowbell on "Reaper." If you listen closely to it on oldies > radio, you can make it out in the background. But it was an afterthought. The > song was recorded without it, and was added as an overdub at the last minute. > According to former BOC bassist Joe Bouchard, an unnamed producer asked his > brother, drummer Albert Bouchard, to play the cowbell after the fact. "Albert > thought he was crazy," Bouchard told the Asbury Park (N.J.) Press in 2000. "But > he put all this tape around a cowbell and played it. It really pulled the track > together." > > During its show at the Rams Head on Thursday night, the five-member group dusted > off its hits from three decades ago, including "R.U. Ready 2 Rock," "Burnin' for > You" and "Godzilla." Then, after a long guitar preamble, it snapped into its > set-closer, "(Don't Fear) The Reaper." > > The familiar sweet notes swooped and soared, drawing the mostly middle-aged crowd > back to its headbanging youth. > > Of course, it could have used . . . well, you know. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sun Jan 30 13:10:06 2005 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:10:06 -0500 Subject: BRAIN\BOC: more cowbell transcribed... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Guitar World offers the transcription of "(Don't Fear) the Reaper" in their special tribute to Dimebag Darrell issue. Ofcourse, you could also find the same thing on buckdharma.com under guitar stuff. IN cooler news, I listened to the webcast from CBGBs of the Brain Surgeons sound check and concert last night. You shall soon enjoy what will be heard, soon-to-be-written up by me. It shall be a good teaser, I trust, to the onslaught to be faced by "the Olde World" as, what Deborah once called, the Big Hair Rock Show (mk. II) makes its way to the UK and Germany. Jason PS: an informercial said this about the 1960s while I did laundry: "What people remember most are all the love songs of the 60's." Uh huh. THank you Time-Life for WASP-washing history. :) Jason (mk II) From charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET Sun Jan 30 14:21:45 2005 From: charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET (Chas) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:21:45 -0000 Subject: Brain: London Message-ID: Has anyone found a drinking establishment to meet up at yet? - either before or after. According to the 100 club web site Brain Surgeons are due on stage at 10:15 - depending on how long tBS are going to play for (hopefully for ever!) we could meet up at the venue after the set - then if anyone knows of somewhere to move on to....... - although I believe the 100 club will be open to 1:00pm - by which time I will have missed my last train so I don't mind what we do!! .......Charlie. (Charles the Grinning Boy) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Edlund Anderson" To: Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Brain: London > On 20-Jan-2005 10:37, M Holmes wrote: > > Albert Bouchard writes: > >> > Is there a pub near the venue and who's going to be there? Albert > >> > fancy meeting your public? > > > >> Sure. Before or after? Actually I will be taking the red-eye from NYC > >> the day before so I might need a nap before the show but I should be > >> ready to rock after, especially as we have the next day off. I vote > >> for after. Besides we'll have more to talk about after you hear what > >> I've been up to for the last 6 months. Where's the nearest pub open > >> late? Al > > > > Scotland? > > Yeah, pubs open after 11pm are hard to find in England! Maybe in London > ... I've got a friend whose brother works in TV/film stuff in London > and asked her to ask him if he knows anywhere. > > There are probably some all-night cafes, if not actually pubs ... Might > have to stroll down to Soho, though that's not far if I remember the 100 > Club's location aright. > > Well, I'm psyched for the gig, anyway :) First time I've seen tBS in, > ooo, 10 years, I guess! > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > http://www.carlaz.com/ From nexus at PANIX.COM Sun Jan 30 14:39:52 2005 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:39:52 -0500 Subject: BRAIN\BOC: more cowbell transcribed... In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.1.20050130130224.021bee00@pop.acmenet.net> from "Jason" at Jan 30, 2005 01:10:06 PM Message-ID: >IN cooler news, I listened to the webcast from CBGBs of >the Brain Surgeons sound check and concert last night. I was at the show last night and it was pretty damn good. The new material is very strong and everyone in the band is playing better than ever. My only complaint is that the vocals tended to be too low in the mix. JB From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jan 30 17:58:14 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:58:14 +0000 Subject: OFF: Theremin bra... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Henderson Keith wrote: > http://www.audioartists.org/video.html > > Could this sort of thing have a place in space rock? I should hope so, but if not in spacerock I imagine Rockbitch could do something with the technology... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET Sun Jan 30 18:10:27 2005 From: charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET (Chas) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:10:27 -0000 Subject: BRAIN\BOC: more cowbell transcribed... Message-ID: Can you post a set list. It would be nice to se what potential treats we are in for in London. .......Charlie. (CtGB). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Berry" To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: Re: BRAIN\BOC: more cowbell transcribed... > >IN cooler news, I listened to the webcast from CBGBs of > >the Brain Surgeons sound check and concert last night. > > I was at the show last night and it was pretty damn good. > The new material is very strong and everyone in the band is > playing better than ever. My only complaint is that the vocals > tended to be too low in the mix. > > JB From nexus at PANIX.COM Mon Jan 31 09:14:06 2005 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:14:06 -0500 Subject: BRAIN\BOC: more cowbell transcribed... In-Reply-To: <002e01c50720$e438c200$a9fa0750@ODLaptop> from "Chas" at Jan 30, 2005 11:10:27 PM Message-ID: >Can you post a set list. It would be nice to se what potential treats we are >in for in London. It's on their website, www.cellsum.com/sets.htm But ... the new songs are very good. Of the 12 song set, eight are from the as-yet-unreleased album, I believe. The only downside to so much new stuff is that it means less old stuff - the BS have an impressively deep catalog of solid material from which to draw. Only one older BS song was in the set, Gun. So what this really means is that they need to do longer sets. Of the new songs, I'd heard four of them before at the Meat Locker last October, and two really stood out for me again on Saturday: Constantine's Sword and Lonestar. The other new songs are good, I'm just not as familiar with them yet - and as I mentioned earlier the vocals were too low, so I haven't quite got the music and the titles linked up properly in my mind yet. Having said that, I think Change World Henry and 1864 are going to really grow on me. JB From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Mon Jan 31 09:24:12 2005 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:24:12 -0600 Subject: HW: 2 New Simon House Remasters/Reissues with Bonus Tracks In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.1.20050130130224.021bee00@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Ok Rob at Voiceprint Sneaked these out while I wasn't looking: ---------------------------- Spiral Realms - Trip to G9 Price: ?12.99 Catalogue number: HAWKVP32CD Release date: 26/01/2005 Format: 2CD Label: Hawk TRACKLIST: Disc 1: 1. Trip to G9 2. Elements II 3. Red Giant 4. Tritium 5. 1000 Years Under Solar Sails 6. Solar Flares Disc 2: 1. 1000 Years Under Solar Sails 2. Trip to G9 3. Red Giant 4. Tritium 5. Solar Flares Trip to G9 is an album of ambient music, which was written to order by his record company. This re-issued CD is different to the original album and comes as a double CD the second disc, which has bonus material and remixes. Simon House has re mastered the album for release. ------------------------------ Spiral Realms - Crystal Jungles of Eos Price: ?12.99 Catalogue number: HAWKVP33CD Release date: 26/01/2005 Format: 2CD Label: Hawk Crystal Jungles Of Eos is the second album of Simon's ambient music. Again this was written to order for the record company and again this release will come as a double CD containing a second CD of remixes and bonus tracks. Once again Simon has re-mastered the album for reissue. -------------------------------- Andy G? Got these yet if so can we have a review of the bonus remix discs. Rich From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Mon Jan 31 09:39:43 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:39:43 -0500 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: <20050130012325.5947.qmail@web53902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yesterday afternoon, my wife and I took our 1 year-old son to a family drum class. At one point during the class the instructor asked if anyone wanted to play the cowbell. I thought I'd need oxygen. -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "We'll wait in stone circles `til the force comes through - lines joint in faint discord and the stormwatch brews - a concert of kings as the white sea snaps at the heels of a soft prayer whispered" Dun Ringill - JETHRO TULL From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Mon Jan 31 09:59:00 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:59:00 -0500 Subject: HW: 2 New Simon House Remasters/Reissues with Bonus Tracks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What does "written to order by his record company" mean? That Simon didn't want to actually do them, but they were "contractual obligation" albums ? -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "We'll wait in stone circles `til the force comes through - lines joint in faint discord and the stormwatch brews - a concert of kings as the white sea snaps at the heels of a soft prayer whispered" Dun Ringill - JETHRO TULL From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Mon Jan 31 10:07:40 2005 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:07:40 -0600 Subject: HW: 2 New Simon House Remasters/Reissues with Bonus Tracks (Simon + which Bowie Stuff?) In-Reply-To: <20050131095900.5vd66ww8k44gsck4@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: I guess Cleopatra bunged him some cash and said two albums please :-) Anyway, Trip to G9 is a very nice album indeend. I can heartily recommend it. I'm sure the bonus tracks will be great. It would be nice to see Simon back gigging again :-) And while we're on the subject: Can anyone enlighten me to which David Bowie recordings Simon is on? Rich W -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of David Kuznick Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: 2 New Simon House Remasters/Reissues with Bonus Tracks What does "written to order by his record company" mean? That Simon didn't want to actually do them, but they were "contractual obligation" albums ? -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "We'll wait in stone circles `til the force comes through - lines joint in faint discord and the stormwatch brews - a concert of kings as the white sea snaps at the heels of a soft prayer whispered" Dun Ringill - JETHRO TULL From merlinas at BTCONNECT.COM Mon Jan 31 10:13:27 2005 From: merlinas at BTCONNECT.COM (Dave Bottomley) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:13:27 -0000 Subject: HW: 2 New Simon House Remasters/Reissues with Bonus Tracks Message-ID: > What does "written to order by his record company" mean? That Simon > didn't want to actually do them, but they were "contractual obligation" > albums ? Well, my guess is that, Simon having contributed 'Lunar Sea' to Nik's 'Prophets Of Time' CD, Cleopatra decided that they could use a whole album of that kind of thing & asked him if he'd be interested. Presumably they paid for the studio time etc., so I'd guess that Simon was more than happy to oblige. Dave From dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU Mon Jan 31 11:08:42 2005 From: dkuznick at ALUMNI.BRANDEIS.EDU (David Kuznick) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:08:42 -0500 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: <20050130012325.5947.qmail@web53902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Quoting gary shindler : > Blue Oyster Cult, Playing Along With 'More Cowbell' > By Paul Farhi > Washington Post Staff Writer > Saturday, January 29, 2005; Page C01 [snip] > According to former BOC bassist Joe Bouchard, an unnamed > producer asked his brother, drummer Albert Bouchard, to play the cowbell > after the fact. Al, I think you need to personally have a shirt made up that says "*I* am More Cowbell!". -- David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu "We'll wait in stone circles `til the force comes through - lines joint in faint discord and the stormwatch brews - a concert of kings as the white sea snaps at the heels of a soft prayer whispered" Dun Ringill - JETHRO TULL From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jan 31 11:20:02 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:20:02 +0000 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: <20050131110842.zwb41wggoowkgss4@webmail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: On 31-Jan-2005 16:08, David Kuznick wrote: >> According to former BOC bassist Joe Bouchard, an unnamed >> producer asked his brother, drummer Albert Bouchard, to play the cowbell >> after the fact. > > Al, I think you need to personally have a shirt made up that says "*I* am More > Cowbell!". Just this morning I was thinking of a new Brain Surgeons shirt that says "We got more cowbell!" Admittedly, I can't remember any tBS songs offhand with prominent cowbell, but they could always make some ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From nexus at PANIX.COM Mon Jan 31 11:41:44 2005 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:41:44 -0500 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: <41FE5AB2.7090107@carlaz.com> from "Carl Edlund Anderson" at Jan 31, 2005 04:20:02 PM Message-ID: >Just this morning I was thinking of a new Brain Surgeons shirt that says > "We got more cowbell!" Admittedly, I can't remember any tBS songs >offhand with prominent cowbell, but they could always make some ;) >Cheers, >Carl Unless I'm hallucinating, which is quite possible at 11pm at CBGB, Al commented "More cowbell" at one point in his drum solo. At least it sounded like "More cowbell" to me. JB From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Jan 31 11:43:46 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:43:46 +0000 Subject: BRAIN\BOC: more cowbell transcribed... In-Reply-To: <200501311414.j0VEE6315453@panix5.panix.com> Message-ID: On 31-Jan-2005 14:14, Jeff Berry wrote: > The only downside > to so much new stuff is that it means less old stuff - the BS have > an impressively deep catalog of solid material from which to draw. > Only one older BS song was in the set, Gun. So what this really > means is that they need to do longer sets. Yes, we certainly need enough room to bring back "Time (Is Gonna Take Care of You)"! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jan 31 12:47:06 2005 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:47:06 -0500 Subject: Simon House with Bowie Message-ID: Hi Rich, Simon plays on The Lodger and David Live. They are worth getting. Cheers Stephe ---- Rich wrote: > I guess Cleopatra bunged him some cash and said two albums please :-) > > Anyway, Trip to G9 is a very nice album indeend. I can heartily recommend > it. I'm sure the bonus tracks will be great. > > It would be nice to see Simon back gigging again :-) > > And while we're on the subject: > > Can anyone enlighten me to which David Bowie recordings Simon is on? > > > > Rich W > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of David Kuznick > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:59 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: 2 New Simon House Remasters/Reissues with Bonus Tracks > > > What does "written to order by his record company" mean? That Simon didn't > want > to actually do them, but they were "contractual obligation" Python > theme> albums ? > > -- > David Kuznick dkuznickATalumni.brandeis.edu > "We'll wait in stone circles `til the force comes through - lines > joint in faint discord and the stormwatch brews - a concert of kings > as the white sea snaps at the heels of a soft prayer whispered" > Dun Ringill - JETHRO TULL From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jan 31 14:09:14 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:09:14 -0500 Subject: HW: 2 New Simon House Remasters/Reissues with Bonus Tracks (Simon + which Bowie Stuff?) Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:07:40 -0600, Rich wrote: >It would be nice to see Simon back gigging again :-) > >And while we're on the subject: > >Can anyone enlighten me to which David Bowie recordings Simon is on? 'Stage' (the double-live album) and 'Lodger' (some songs, not all ... the inner sleeve of the LP mentions which ones, but I'm at work, so I can't reference it right now). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jan 31 14:18:05 2005 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:18:05 -0500 Subject: Simon House with Bowie Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:47:06 -0500, Stephe Lindas wrote: >Hi Rich, Simon plays on The Lodger and David Live. They are worth >getting. Cheers Stephe The live album is 'Stage', not 'David Live' (understandable confusion since they're his two 70s double live albums). It's well worth getting (in addition to Simon House, there's great playing from Adrian Belew on guitar, Roger Powell on keys/synths, and several other very talented musicians), but I would opine that 'David Live' is not (from his ill- advised "philly soul" period). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jan 31 15:17:06 2005 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:17:06 -0500 Subject: Simon House with Bowie Message-ID: Hi Doug, Thanks for the correction. :-) Cheers Stephe ---- Doug Pearson wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:47:06 -0500, Stephe Lindas > wrote: > > >Hi Rich, Simon plays on The Lodger and David Live. They are worth > >getting. Cheers Stephe > > The live album is 'Stage', not 'David Live' (understandable confusion > since they're his two 70s double live albums). It's well worth getting > (in addition to Simon House, there's great playing from Adrian Belew on > guitar, Roger Powell on keys/synths, and several other very talented > musicians), but I would opine that 'David Live' is not (from his ill- > advised "philly soul" period). > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jan 31 16:57:16 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:57:16 -0500 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: <200501311641.j0VGfiA13491@panix5.panix.com> Message-ID: On Jan 31, 2005, at 11:41 AM, Jeff Berry wrote: > Unless I'm hallucinating, which is quite possible at 11pm at CBGB, Al > commented "More cowbell" at one point in his drum solo. At least > it sounded like "More cowbell" to me. Yes, you heard right. That was just before the cowbell segment of my solo. 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Click here for full details: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/realmusicclub1.html REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, Chat, Healers From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Mon Jan 31 19:38:04 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:38:04 -0000 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: <3142ec354cb2813b2bb7f15377cbd79b@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Hey Albert, have you got any surprises up your sleeve for the London show that you'd like to leak? :-) See you at the 100 Club Tony -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Albert Bouchard Sent: 31 January 2005 21:57 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: more cowbell On Jan 31, 2005, at 11:41 AM, Jeff Berry wrote: > Unless I'm hallucinating, which is quite possible at 11pm at CBGB, Al > commented "More cowbell" at one point in his drum solo. At least > it sounded like "More cowbell" to me. Yes, you heard right. That was just before the cowbell segment of my solo. Al From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jan 31 20:33:03 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:33:03 -0500 Subject: more cowbell In-Reply-To: <000201c507f6$4baaa130$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: On Jan 31, 2005, at 7:38 PM, Tony wrote: > Hey Albert, have you got any surprises up your sleeve for the London > show > that you'd like to leak? :-) > See you at the 100 Club Then it wouldn't be a surprise would it? ;-) But I would like to leak at some point. How is the WC there? Al