From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Dec 1 05:25:09 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:25:09 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! In-Reply-To: Martin Hutchby's message of Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:30:59 EST Message-ID: Martin Hutchby writes: > I'll check these out & if it's hooky then he may well have a surprise. Same guy and live recordings as last time but with an extra one this time around. I have though ordered some Hawkwind mugs from someone who's painting album covers (Stonehenge, Warrior, Sonic Attack) on coffee mugs. Obviously they should kick something for royalties based on the pictures themselves (and I don't know whether that happens or not) but at least the actual effort of producing them is their own. 'sides, it'll convince my workmates that I'm even more nuts than they thought.. FoFP From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Thu Dec 1 13:17:43 2005 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (Hawkfan) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:17:43 -0000 Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! In-Reply-To: <200512011025.jB1AP9gr017369@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >I have though ordered some Hawkwind mugs from someone who's painting >album covers Coo, ideal prezzies! Got the link? JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 01 December 2005 10:25 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Galactic Patrol Alert! Martin Hutchby writes: > I'll check these out & if it's hooky then he may well have a surprise. Same guy and live recordings as last time but with an extra one this time around. I have though ordered some Hawkwind mugs from someone who's painting album covers (Stonehenge, Warrior, Sonic Attack) on coffee mugs. Obviously they should kick something for royalties based on the pictures themselves (and I don't know whether that happens or not) but at least the actual effort of producing them is their own. 'sides, it'll convince my workmates that I'm even more nuts than they thought.. FoFP From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Dec 1 14:47:28 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:47:28 EST Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! Message-ID: In a message dated 12/01/2005 10:27:48 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: I have though ordered some Hawkwind mugs from someone who's painting album covers (Stonehenge, Warrior, Sonic Attack) on coffee mugs. I know. You bid against me on one of them. Did you get my private mail re: the hotel for London? Steve. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Dec 1 14:52:10 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:52:10 EST Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! Message-ID: Here's a link to one: _http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DONT-PANIC-SONIC-WARRIOR-BRAND-NEW-HAWKWIND-3-MUG-SET_W 0QQitemZ7568062138QQcategoryZ58716QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem_ (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DONT-PANIC-SONIC-WARRIOR-BRAND-NEW-HAWKWIND-3-MUG-SET_W0QQit emZ7568062138QQcategoryZ58716QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) >From here have a look at his other items. Note that most of them are "Buy It Now" so don't bid higher than that as they always get relisted. Steve. In a message dated 12/01/2005 18:31:20 GMT Standard Time, _hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK_ (mailto:hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK) writes: >I have though ordered some Hawkwind mugs from someone who's painting >album covers Coo, ideal prezzies! Got the link? JR From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Dec 1 15:21:52 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:21:52 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! In-Reply-To: StevePXR5@AOL.COM's message of Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:47:28 EST Message-ID: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > In a message dated 12/01/2005 10:27:48 GMT Standard Time, > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > I have though ordered some Hawkwind mugs from someone who's painting > album covers (Stonehenge, Warrior, Sonic Attack) on coffee mugs. > > > > I know. You bid against me on one of them. > Did you get my private mail re: the hotel for London? Yup. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Dec 1 15:24:50 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:24:50 GMT Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! In-Reply-To: StevePXR5@AOL.COM's message of Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:52:10 EST Message-ID: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > >I have though ordered some Hawkwind mugs from someone who's painting > >album covers > > Coo, ideal prezzies! Got the link? Item 7565667638 on ebay.com He also sells them solo rather than in sets. FoFP From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Thu Dec 1 21:30:30 2005 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:30:30 -0500 Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?VEJTOiAgQ29ydGxhbmQsIE5Z?= Message-ID: So I hear TBS played a punk gig in Cortland, NY or thereabouts, and I missed it! Damn, I gotta keep my ear to the ground a little more. That's right near where I grew up. My friend's stepson was in one of the opening bands, which is how I found out. My friend had no idea Al & Co were playing, so he missed it, too. A shame. Would have been my first TBS show. Oh well. I'll just have to start paying better attention. --Nick From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Dec 1 21:41:18 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:41:18 -0500 Subject: TBS: Cortland, NY In-Reply-To: <200512020230.jB22UUra021043@mmm1503.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: Plus it was a really good show. Well there are no plans for bad shows so keep that ear to the ground. ;-) Al On Dec 1, 2005, at 9:30 PM, nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM wrote: > So I hear TBS played a punk gig in Cortland, NY or thereabouts, and > I missed it! > > Damn, I gotta keep my ear to the ground a little more. That's > right near where I grew up. My friend's stepson was in one of the > opening bands, which is how I found out. My friend had no idea Al > & Co were playing, so he missed it, too. > > A shame. Would have been my first TBS show. Oh well. I'll just > have to start paying better attention. > > --Nick From berryj170 at MSN.COM Fri Dec 2 01:13:04 2005 From: berryj170 at MSN.COM (John Berry) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 01:13:04 -0500 Subject: TBS: Cortland, NY Message-ID: It was a great show and well worth the 4 hr. drive . TBS rocked the house for a great cause and i'll definitely catch them every chance i get from here on out. Albert , Beb, Dave and Ross Rock. From berryj170 at MSN.COM Fri Dec 2 01:14:47 2005 From: berryj170 at MSN.COM (John Berry) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 01:14:47 -0500 Subject: TBS: Cortland, NY Message-ID: It was a great show and well worth the 4 hr. drive . TBS rocked the house for a great cause and i'll definitely catch them every chance i get from here on out. Albert , Deb, Dave and Ross Rock. From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Dec 2 06:46:55 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 06:46:55 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - not long left to vote in week 5! Message-ID: hi all I'm sure most of you have already cast your vote this week but if not you've only got 48 hours left to have your say, as ever it's - http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm for all you need to know and your voting slip! have fun Dave From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Fri Dec 2 12:35:29 2005 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:35:29 -0500 Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?UkU6IFJlOiBUQlM6IENvcnRsYW5kLCBOWQ==?= Message-ID: It would have been a four-hour drive for me, too, but it's only about 45 minutes from "home". . . as in, my mother's house. I definitely would have gone if I'd known about it. --Nick >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >From: John Berry >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Sent: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 01:13:04 > >It was a great show and well worth the 4 hr. drive >. TBS rocked the house >for a great cause and i'll definitely catch them >every chance i get from >here on out. Albert , Beb, Dave and Ross Rock. From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Dec 2 16:09:27 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:09:27 -0600 Subject: HW: lights at the hawkestra? Message-ID: Hey folks, Was chatting to Rich this morning about it, and we were wondering.... who did the lights for the Hawkestra? Thx, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Dec 2 19:43:02 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:43:02 -0500 Subject: TBS: Cortland, NY In-Reply-To: <200512021735.jB2HZTEu019949@mmm1503.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: OK so here's another gig. It's absolutely the last one of the year for us. We're playing the Brighton Bar in Long Branch NJ on Friday Dec. 16. It is also the youngster, David Hirschberg's 50th birthday so it will be another special night for sure. I will try to remember to post our gigs on this list in the future. I apologize for assuming that every one of you check the cellsum.com website daily! Seriously, I will try to keep folks updated more in the future. It really bugs me when folks say that they would have come if only they had known. Lord knows most gigs we can use all the audience we can get (the Cortland show being a packed exception). Al On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:35 PM, nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM wrote: > It would have been a four-hour drive for me, too, but it's only > about 45 minutes from "home". . . as in, my mother's house. I > definitely would have gone if I'd known about it. > > > --Nick > > > >> ----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >> From: John Berry >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Sent: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 01:13:04 >> >> It was a great show and well worth the 4 hr. drive >> . TBS rocked the house >> for a great cause and i'll definitely catch them >> every chance i get from >> here on out. Albert , Beb, Dave and Ross Rock. From HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM Sat Dec 3 10:50:21 2005 From: HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM (HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:50:21 EST Subject: BOC-L Digest - 2 Dec 2005 to 3 Dec 2005 (#2005-313) Message-ID: In a message dated 12/3/2005 5:06:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LISTSERV at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET writes: Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:09:27 -0600 From: Arin Komins Subject: HW: lights at the hawkestra? Hey folks, Was chatting to Rich this morning about it, and we were wondering.... who did the lights for the Hawkestra? Thx, Arin that was Jasper from Fruit Salad lighting From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Dec 3 21:28:13 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 21:28:13 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations: November 2005 Issue Online Now!!! Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com THE NOVEMBER 2005 ISSUE OF AURAL INNOVATIONS IS ONLINE NOW The November 2005 issue (#32) of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers Space Rock, Psychedelia, Stoner Rock, Electronic music, Progressive Rock and more. See the index of this issue's contents below. MAIL ORDER NEWS: Lots exciting new goodies, including a brand new studio album by F/i titled Blanga. It?s HOT! And the veteran space rockers are out in force, as ST 37 have a new CD out, a collection of rarities and unreleased tracks. 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You can go directly to the new issue at: http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue32/issue32.html http://Aural-Innovations.com From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Dec 4 08:37:46 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 08:37:46 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - here we go again Message-ID: hi all as the subject line say "you should know by now" it's Sunday afternoon so that means only one the, the previous weeks vote has closed the new one is open minus the losing song so all you have to do is click on http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm and choose your favorite from the 5 remaining songs! thanks as ever for the tremendous support you've shown this campaign and lets try to once more have a record number of votes cast. all the best Dave From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Dec 4 12:52:39 2005 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 12:52:39 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - here we go again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 08:37 -0500, Dave Law wrote: > hi all > > as the subject line say "you should know by now" it's Sunday afternoon so > that means only one the, the previous weeks vote has closed the new one is > open minus the losing song so all you have to do is click on > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm > > and choose your favorite from the 5 remaining songs! Can we have a write-in candidate? Based on what I'm listening to now, I'd love to hear the lads do the Bevis Frond's "Your Little Point" or "Am I Burning?" Those are nice and short, so shouldn't be too taxing to learn (though they might need the presence of a guest on stage to handle the dual solo work). However, if they're prepared to put in a little effort and try something longer, I'd welcome a chance to hear the likes of "Heritage Coast," "Tangerine Infringement Beak," or even something Hawkwind related like "Ice Plug" or "Deep Space Divers." Alternatively, in the spirit of _Take Me To Your Leader_, they could always have Arthur Brown come up on stage and improvise a Bob Calvert anecdote themed version of "The Pips..." ;-) In a Frondian Daze, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sun Dec 4 12:55:06 2005 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:55:06 +0100 Subject: AC/DC Message-ID: Hello, I'm in search for a friend of mine of AC/DC Bon Scott era stuff,not official record releases,but posters,tickets,photos,DVD,Video,maybe some live recordings ? greetings filip hawknut From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Dec 4 13:12:26 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:12:26 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - here we go again Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 12:52:39 -0500, Paul Mather wrote: >On Sun, 2005-12-04 at 08:37 -0500, Dave Law wrote: >> hi all >> >> as the subject line say "you should know by now" it's Sunday afternoon so >> that means only one the, the previous weeks vote has closed the new one is >> open minus the losing song so all you have to do is click on >> http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm >> >> and choose your favorite from the 5 remaining songs! > >Can we have a write-in candidate? > >Based on what I'm listening to now, I'd love to hear the lads do the >Bevis Frond's "Your Little Point" or "Am I Burning?" Those are nice and >short, so shouldn't be too taxing to learn (though they might need the >presence of a guest on stage to handle the dual solo work). However, if >they're prepared to put in a little effort and try something longer, I'd >welcome a chance to hear the likes of "Heritage Coast," "Tangerine >Infringement Beak," or even something Hawkwind related like "Ice Plug" >or "Deep Space Divers." > >Alternatively, in the spirit of _Take Me To Your Leader_, they could >always have Arthur Brown come up on stage and improvise a Bob Calvert >anecdote themed version of "The Pips..." ;-) > >In a Frondian Daze, > >Paul. >-- >e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > >"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa I guess the band need to see how successful this venture is before we start thinking about another one. at this point i think we should just be grateful that the band have agreed to get involved in the current vote and whatever song comes out as the winner i'm sure we're in for a treat. cheers dave From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Dec 4 13:30:41 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:30:41 EST Subject: Galactic Patrol Alert! Message-ID: Any updates on this? Steve. In a message dated 12/01/2005 20:22:58 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Did you get my private mail re: the hotel for London? Yup. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 5 09:01:19 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:01:19 GMT Subject: DVD: FAO: Ande Garibaldi Message-ID: ---- Start of forwarded text ---- > > What was the tracklist off the TMTYL DVD again? I seem to have an ad > > from Ande for the CD plus extra track (Paradox) where the DVD also has a > > different track listing. > > Spirit of the Age-video > > Silver Machine-live > > The Right to Decide-live > > Spirit of the Age-live > > Psychedelic Warlords-live > Oh, OK, the DVD on the new listing by Ande has: > DVD Track List: > 01. Spirit Of The Age (demo) > 02. Silver Machine (live) > 03. The Right Stuff (live) > 04. Spirit Of The Age (live) > 05. Brainstorm (live) I've just reveived the CD and the DVD is mysteriously the same as on the original release. It appears that the C&D ad was wrong about the extra track on the CD (Ande said he'd explain this later...) and now the DVD isn't a different tracklist either. What's going on? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 5 09:51:19 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:51:19 GMT Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - here we go again In-Reply-To: Dave Law's message of Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:12:26 -0500 Message-ID: Dave Law writes: DOCTOR WHO!!! Duh Dunnllundun Duh Dunnllundun Duh Dunnllundun Duh Dunnllundun OOOO OOO OOOO OOO OOOO OOOOEEEEOOO! Duh Dunnllundun Duh Dunnllundun Duh duh, duh dun.... > I guess the band need to see how successful this venture is before we start > thinking about another one. FoFP From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Dec 5 09:59:42 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:59:42 +0000 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - here we go again In-Reply-To: <200512051451.jB5EpJ2c012072@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > DOCTOR WHO!!! I'd vote for that :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 5 12:59:40 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:59:40 GMT Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - here we go again In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:59:42 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > > DOCTOR WHO!!! > > I'd vote for that :) Heh. Come to fink of it. Alan did a version of the UFO theme on one of his albums. I'd settle for Hawkwind doing a blanga version of that, though I still think they'd be cracking at Doc Who. It'd just make xmas that little bit more special. FoFP From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Mon Dec 5 17:49:00 2005 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:49:00 -0500 Subject: =?US-ASCII?B?UkU6IFRCUzogQ29ydGxhbmQsIE5Z?= Message-ID: I still love a good show, and I'm willing to go out of my way for one, but not as often as I used to. It's that whole two kids, dog, cat, wife, mortgage, car payments etc. etc. etc. situations. Checking for good concerts within a 200 - 300 mile radius isn't usually top of mind for me. That's one of the reasons I'm on the list. It generally works out well, but every once in a while, something falls through the cracks, like the Cortland show. Oh well. Having seen various and sundry "3-OC" lineups and even a Cult Brothers gig, I guess Al remains my elusive white whale. --Nick >----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >From: Albert Bouchard >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Sent: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:43:02 > >OK so here's another gig. It's absolutely the last >one of the year >for us. We're playing the Brighton Bar in Long >Branch NJ on Friday >Dec. 16. It is also the youngster, David >Hirschberg's 50th birthday >so it will be another special night for sure. I >will try to remember >to post our gigs on this list in the future. I >apologize for assuming >that every one of you check the cellsum.com website >daily! Seriously, >I will try to keep folks updated more in the >future. It really bugs >me when folks say that they would have come if only >they had known. >Lord knows most gigs we can use all the audience we >can get (the >Cortland show being a packed exception). >Al >On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:35 PM, >nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM wrote: > >> It would have been a four-hour drive for me, too, >but it's only >> about 45 minutes from "home". . . as in, my >mother's house. I >> definitely would have gone if I'd known about it. > >> >> >> --Nick >> >> >> >>> ----- ------- Original Message ------- ----- >>> From: John Berry >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Sent: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 01:13:04 >>> >>> It was a great show and well worth the 4 hr. >drive >>> . TBS rocked the house >>> for a great cause and i'll definitely catch them > >>> every chance i get from >>> here on out. Albert , Beb, Dave and Ross Rock. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Dec 6 15:12:46 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:12:46 EST Subject: London Meet Up... Message-ID: Do any of you Londoners know of a suitable meeting point for the Astoria gig? Preferably (essentially) with a good selection of quality real ales. As there are life forms travelling from various nooks and crannies of the universe, it would be good to sort out a decent meeting point. Steve. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Dec 6 15:49:53 2005 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:49:53 +0000 Subject: DVD: FAO: Ande Garibaldi In-Reply-To: <200512051401.jB5E1JUY028000@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike, The 'extra track' on the CD is is new studio version of 'Paradox' which doesn't appear on the original TMTYL CD - at least that what appears on mine which I've just received from CDS. Shame about the DVD not being as originally advertised - 'Brainstorm' was superb last tour! If you ever get the explanation I'd love to know too! Mick --- M Holmes wrote: > ---- Start of forwarded text ---- > > > > What was the tracklist off the TMTYL DVD again? > I seem to have an ad > > > from Ande for the CD plus extra track (Paradox) > where the DVD also has a > > > different track listing. > > > > Spirit of the Age-video > > > Silver Machine-live > > > The Right to Decide-live > > > Spirit of the Age-live > > > Psychedelic Warlords-live > > > Oh, OK, the DVD on the new listing by Ande has: > > > DVD Track List: > > 01. Spirit Of The Age (demo) > > 02. Silver Machine (live) > > 03. The Right Stuff (live) > > 04. Spirit Of The Age (live) > > 05. Brainstorm (live) > > I've just reveived the CD and the DVD is > mysteriously the same as on the > original release. It appears that the C&D ad was > wrong about the extra > track on the CD (Ande said he'd explain this > later...) and now the DVD > isn't a different tracklist either. > > What's going on? > > FoFP > ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From Frank.Weil at MOTOROLA.COM Tue Dec 6 17:59:34 2005 From: Frank.Weil at MOTOROLA.COM (Weil Frank-CFW001) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:59:34 -0600 Subject: HW: A few items for trade Message-ID: I have a few duplicate items that might be of interest. I would prefer to set up some sort of trade, but I am not totally averse to just selling them outright if I really need to. CD: Weird Tapes No 1 - Sonic Assassins (brand new, still in shrink-wrap) Paperback: The Time of the Hawklords, Warner Books (spine and back show wear) Hardcover: Flashing Swords! #4 - Barbarians and Black Magicians (slight wear on slipcover, contains "The Lands Beyond the World" from Michael Moorcock) Let me know off-line if you are interested. Regards, Frank From deborah at VACANO.ORG Tue Dec 6 23:07:27 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 21:07:27 -0700 Subject: London Meet Up... Message-ID: OMG... I'm so jealous!! i can't tell you... Will Hawkwind ever come to America?? Please?? Bush sucks!! Deborah -------Original Message------- From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Date: 12/06/05 13:35:46 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: London Meet Up... Do any of you Londoners know of a suitable meeting point for the Astoria gig? Preferably (essentially) with a good selection of quality real ales. As there are life forms travelling from various nooks and crannies of the universe, it would be good to sort out a decent meeting point. Steve. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Wed Dec 7 03:42:25 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:42:25 +0000 Subject: London Meet Up... In-Reply-To: <43965FFF.000004.03792@TABASCO> Message-ID: On 07 Dec 2005, at 04:07, Deborah Vacano wrote: > Will Hawkwind ever come to America?? > Please?? When was the last time? Sometime in the late 90s +Ron Tree and +Jerry but -Alan, wasn't it? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Dec 7 04:17:37 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:17:37 +0000 Subject: DVD: FAO: Ande Garibaldi In-Reply-To: <20051206204953.72432.qmail@web86204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, How do you get the extra track to play...is it on a PC or CD player ? is it on the CD or DVD ? I have the copy of TMTYL that was sent first day of release ? thanks Iain ( trying to find the blessed thing). Michael Crook wrote on 06/12/2005, 20:49: > Mike, > > The 'extra track' on the CD is is new studio version > of 'Paradox' which doesn't appear on the original > TMTYL CD - at least that what appears on mine which > I've just received from CDS. Shame about the DVD not > being as originally advertised - 'Brainstorm' was > superb last tour! If you ever get the explanation I'd > love to know too! > > Mick > > > > --- M Holmes wrote: > > > ---- Start of forwarded text ---- > > > > > > What was the tracklist off the TMTYL DVD again? > > I seem to have an ad > > > > from Ande for the CD plus extra track (Paradox) > > where the DVD also has a > > > > different track listing. > > > > > > Spirit of the Age-video > > > > Silver Machine-live > > > > The Right to Decide-live > > > > Spirit of the Age-live > > > > Psychedelic Warlords-live > > > > > Oh, OK, the DVD on the new listing by Ande has: > > > > > DVD Track List: > > > 01. Spirit Of The Age (demo) > > > 02. Silver Machine (live) > > > 03. The Right Stuff (live) > > > 04. Spirit Of The Age (live) > > > 05. Brainstorm (live) > > > > I've just reveived the CD and the DVD is > > mysteriously the same as on the > > original release. It appears that the C&D ad was > > wrong about the extra > > track on the CD (Ande said he'd explain this > > later...) and now the DVD > > isn't a different tracklist either. > > > > What's going on? > > > > FoFP > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new > Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Dec 7 05:30:04 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:30:04 GMT Subject: London Meet Up... In-Reply-To: StevePXR5@AOL.COM's message of Tue, 6 Dec 2005 15:12:46 EST Message-ID: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > Do any of you Londoners know of a suitable meeting point for the Astoria gig? > Preferably (essentially) with a good selection of quality real ales. > As there are life forms travelling from various nooks and crannies of the > universe, it would be good to sort out a decent meeting point. Let's make it the Angel again since at least everyone from the last four years knows where it is. Does anyone remember the street address? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Dec 7 05:31:37 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:31:37 GMT Subject: DVD: FAO: Ande Garibaldi In-Reply-To: Michael Crook's message of Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:49:53 +0000 Message-ID: Michael Crook writes: > Mike, > > The 'extra track' on the CD is is new studio version > of 'Paradox' which doesn't appear on the original > TMTYL CD - at least that what appears on mine which > I've just received from CDS. Shame about the DVD not > being as originally advertised - 'Brainstorm' was > superb last tour! If you ever get the explanation I'd > love to know too! Yep, Paradox is there from the single CD but I'#ve now confirmed that the DVD is the same as with the standard release, and again strangely in NTSC format. FoFP From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Dec 7 08:12:17 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 07:12:17 -0600 Subject: London Meet Up... In-Reply-To: <200512071030.jB7AU4Wf014464@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Re: London Meet Up... : :StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: : :> Do any of you Londoners know of a suitable meeting point for the Astoria gig? :> Preferably (essentially) with a good selection of quality real ales. :> As there are life forms travelling from various nooks and crannies of the :> universe, it would be good to sort out a decent meeting point. : :Let's make it the Angel again since at least everyone from the last four :years knows where it is. Does anyone remember the street address? I think this is it: The Angel 61 St. Giles High Street, London WC2H 8LE (address snaffled from: http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/clubs_bars/venue-357.php) Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Wed Dec 7 09:20:10 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:20:10 +0000 Subject: Astoria - Something for during the day Message-ID: In case anyone is spending time in London during the day and was wondering what to do there is a Record Fair held at Spitelfields Market (close to Liverpool Street Station) on the day. Starts around 8am to catch those on their way to work (me included) and gets going mid morning to lunch. Usually selections of promos and things you find on a car. large selections of vinyl DVD's etc etc. Also good pub opposite for ale (the Gun) and lunch not the best decorated but friendly and food usually good - restaurant upstairs is in the good food guides. Usually some tasty Hawkwind items available. Anyone wanting to meet up araound 1pm let me know Steve PS some of us are also meeting in a pub called the George just of Charring Cross Road (where the band went after launch party) so take your choice. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Dec 7 11:36:54 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:36:54 GMT Subject: Unusual Item Message-ID: Just won on Ebay a CD with the original Silver Machine on it. The CD is one sided with only that track and writing on it says that it's brought to us by Mazda. Release is dated 2000. Item 4797049267 Does anyone know the provenance of this release? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Dec 7 11:38:47 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:38:47 GMT Subject: London Hotel booking Message-ID: Given that only Maxine (+friend), keith and Steve responded and Steve now says he's going it alone, it's safe to say there aren't enough of us to obtain any sort of deal for a hotel. So I guess plan B is just to see if we can at least get to the same hotel. Does anyone have any suggestions for one that's convenient and won't cost the Earth, and we can try and coordinate on that... FoFP From iainferguson at AOL.COM Wed Dec 7 11:49:10 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:49:10 +0000 Subject: Unusual Item In-Reply-To: <200512071636.jB7Gasrd004295@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike, Didn't Mazda use Silver machine for a TV advert a few years ago ? Iain M Holmes wrote on 07/12/2005, 16:36: > Just won on Ebay a CD with the original Silver Machine on it. The CD is > one sided with only that track and writing on it says that it's brought > to us by Mazda. Release is dated 2000. > > Item 4797049267 > > Does anyone know the provenance of this release? > > FoFP > From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 7 11:59:23 2005 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:59:23 +0000 Subject: Unusual Item In-Reply-To: <43971286.6080709@aol.com> Message-ID: Think they did, an excerpt of it was used on Top Gear on Sunday also, hot on the heels of The Forge of Vulcan in the last series. Eddie. >From: Iain Ferguson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Unusual Item >Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:49:10 +0000 > >Hi Mike, > >Didn't Mazda use Silver machine for a TV advert a few years ago ? > >Iain > >M Holmes wrote on 07/12/2005, 16:36: > > > Just won on Ebay a CD with the original Silver Machine on it. The CD is > > one sided with only that track and writing on it says that it's brought > > to us by Mazda. Release is dated 2000. > > > > Item 4797049267 > > > > Does anyone know the provenance of this release? > > > > FoFP > > From youless at COX.NET Wed Dec 7 12:18:40 2005 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:18:40 -0500 Subject: Unusual Item Message-ID: Hi Mike Yes, it's a genuine item. Mazda were using Silver Machine in a series of TV ads in 2000, and the gimmick was that if you went to a Mazda dealer for a test drive, they would give you a copy of the promo CD. I have an image of the CD at http://www.starfarer.net/photos102.html Cheers Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:36:54 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >Just won on Ebay a CD with the original Silver Machine on it. The CD is >one sided with only that track and writing on it says that it's brought >to us by Mazda. Release is dated 2000. > >Item 4797049267 > >Does anyone know the provenance of this release? > >FoFP From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 7 12:24:52 2005 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:24:52 +0000 Subject: Unusual Item In-Reply-To: Message-ID: yep, and i think that mazda even released a limited edition car called "silver machine" with "hawkwind" written on it, too.Ive seen a photo of one. pete >From: eddie jobson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Unusual Item >Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:59:23 +0000 > >Think they did, an excerpt of it was used on Top Gear on Sunday also, hot >on >the heels of The Forge of Vulcan in the last series. > >Eddie. > > >>From: Iain Ferguson >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Subject: Re: Unusual Item >>Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:49:10 +0000 >> >>Hi Mike, >> >>Didn't Mazda use Silver machine for a TV advert a few years ago ? >> >>Iain >> >>M Holmes wrote on 07/12/2005, 16:36: >> >> > Just won on Ebay a CD with the original Silver Machine on it. The CD >>is >> > one sided with only that track and writing on it says that it's >>brought >> > to us by Mazda. Release is dated 2000. >> > >> > Item 4797049267 >> > >> > Does anyone know the provenance of this release? >> > >> > FoFP >> > _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters From deborah at VACANO.ORG Wed Dec 7 12:31:08 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:31:08 -0700 Subject: London Meet Up... Message-ID: The last time we saw them was 4/23/95 at The Fox in Boulder, Colorado The line up was Dave, Alan,Richard Chadwick and Ron tree ;O) ahhh.. those were the dayz... *Siff*.. -------Original Message------- From: Carl Edlund Anderson Date: 12/07/05 01:48:58 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: London Meet Up... On 07 Dec 2005, at 04:07, Deborah Vacano wrote: > Will Hawkwind ever come to America?? > Please?? When was the last time? Sometime in the late 90s +Ron Tree and +Jerry but -Alan, wasn't it? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Wed Dec 7 12:38:44 2005 From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:38:44 -0700 Subject: Unusual Item In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Uh oh. Now you've done it. Mike the Kompletist will now have to track down and buy one of these cars. ;-) Guido pete howe wrote: > yep, and i think that mazda even released a limited edition car called > "silver machine" with "hawkwind" written on it, too.Ive seen a photo > of one. > pete From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Dec 7 13:04:54 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:04:54 GMT Subject: Unusual Item In-Reply-To: pete howe's message of Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:24:52 +0000 Message-ID: pete howe writes: > yep, and i think that mazda even released a limited edition car called > "silver machine" with "hawkwind" written on it, too.Ive seen a photo of one. Bugger. How the hell am I going to pay for *that* when it comes up on Ebay??? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Dec 7 13:05:43 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:05:43 GMT Subject: Unusual Item In-Reply-To: Guido Vacano's message of Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:38:44 -0700 Message-ID: Guido Vacano writes: > Uh oh. Now you've done it. Mike the Kompletist will now have to track > down and buy one of these cars. ;-) Worse: I'll need a bigger shelf to put it on. FoFP From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Wed Dec 7 13:57:30 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 13:57:30 EST Subject: Astoria - Something for during the day Message-ID: In a message dated 12/07/2005 14:22:28 GMT Standard Time, stevefreight at GMAIL.COM writes: Anyone wanting to meet up araound 1pm let me know Thanks for that. I'll be around at about 2:30. Steve. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Dec 7 15:42:03 2005 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:42:03 +0000 Subject: DVD: FAO: Ande Garibaldi In-Reply-To: <4396A8B1.2030608@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi Ian, The CD we are referring to is the 'Dark Peak' limited edition version of TMTYL which has been produced for export.The extra track is not on the original edition so that's why you can't find it! The track is 'Paradox' as appears on the SoTA Single Cheers, Mick --- Iain Ferguson wrote: > Hi, > > How do you get the extra track to play...is it on a > PC or CD player ? > > is it on the CD or DVD ? > > I have the copy of TMTYL that was sent first day of > release ? > > thanks > Iain ( trying to find the blessed thing). > > > Michael Crook wrote on 06/12/2005, 20:49: > > > Mike, > > > > The 'extra track' on the CD is is new studio > version > > of 'Paradox' which doesn't appear on the original > > TMTYL CD - at least that what appears on mine > which > > I've just received from CDS. Shame about the DVD > not > > being as originally advertised - 'Brainstorm' was > > superb last tour! If you ever get the explanation > I'd > > love to know too! > > > > Mick > > > > > > > > --- M Holmes wrote: > > > > > ---- Start of forwarded text ---- > > > > > > > > What was the tracklist off the TMTYL DVD > again? > > > I seem to have an ad > > > > > from Ande for the CD plus extra track > (Paradox) > > > where the DVD also has a > > > > > different track listing. > > > > > > > > Spirit of the Age-video > > > > > Silver Machine-live > > > > > The Right to Decide-live > > > > > Spirit of the Age-live > > > > > Psychedelic Warlords-live > > > > > > > Oh, OK, the DVD on the new listing by Ande > has: > > > > > > > DVD Track List: > > > > 01. Spirit Of The Age (demo) > > > > 02. Silver Machine (live) > > > > 03. The Right Stuff (live) > > > > 04. Spirit Of The Age (live) > > > > 05. Brainstorm (live) > > > > > > I've just reveived the CD and the DVD is > > > mysteriously the same as on the > > > original release. It appears that the C&D ad > was > > > wrong about the extra > > > track on the CD (Ande said he'd explain this > > > later...) and now the DVD > > > isn't a different tracklist either. > > > > > > What's going on? > > > > > > FoFP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've > developed the all new > > Yahoo! Security Centre. > http://uk.security.yahoo.com > > > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Dec 7 17:36:01 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 22:36:01 -0000 Subject: FAO: Ande Garibaldi Message-ID: Sorreeeee - been away then a close freind's dad died and it's been a crazy time of late. OK - the scan is this - quite simple really. The original artwork for the DVD cover that I got hold of for the advert purposes was wrong. Originally the uncorrected version was going to be put out but luckily someone spotted it in time, I guess, as that's what's turned up on our doorsteps. The CDS pre-sell was only misleading by dint of what we were basing it on as supplied by the sources that be. Just one of those things! Dave Anderson still hasn'tsent the Nik Turner singles to us - that Post Office must be half way up Snowdon!!!It's taken 6 phone calls so far to get the 10 copies of the live album posted to us that we ordered 6 weeks ago!!! And they still havent been posted yet either!! But to be fair, Dave is a seriously busy man who's doing far too much work in that studio!! He needs a break - maybe a good walk to the Post Office would do him a world of good!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: DVD: FAO: Ande Garibaldi > ---- Start of forwarded text ---- > > > > What was the tracklist off the TMTYL DVD again? I seem to have an ad > > > from Ande for the CD plus extra track (Paradox) where the DVD also has a > > > different track listing. > > > > Spirit of the Age-video > > > Silver Machine-live > > > The Right to Decide-live > > > Spirit of the Age-live > > > Psychedelic Warlords-live > > > Oh, OK, the DVD on the new listing by Ande has: > > > DVD Track List: > > 01. Spirit Of The Age (demo) > > 02. Silver Machine (live) > > 03. The Right Stuff (live) > > 04. Spirit Of The Age (live) > > 05. Brainstorm (live) > > I've just reveived the CD and the DVD is mysteriously the same as on the > original release. It appears that the C&D ad was wrong about the extra > track on the CD (Ande said he'd explain this later...) and now the DVD > isn't a different tracklist either. > > What's going on? > > FoFP From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Dec 7 21:35:16 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 02:35:16 -0000 Subject: DVD: FAO: Ande Garibaldi Message-ID: The extra track is "Paradox" from one of the CD singles and is only on the just issued digi-pak version of the album and not on the original jewel case issue and is on the CD portion not the DVD portion. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Ferguson To: Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:17 AM Subject: Re: DVD: FAO: Ande Garibaldi > Hi, > > How do you get the extra track to play...is it on a PC or CD player ? > > is it on the CD or DVD ? > > I have the copy of TMTYL that was sent first day of release ? > > thanks > Iain ( trying to find the blessed thing). > > > Michael Crook wrote on 06/12/2005, 20:49: > > > Mike, > > > > The 'extra track' on the CD is is new studio version > > of 'Paradox' which doesn't appear on the original > > TMTYL CD - at least that what appears on mine which > > I've just received from CDS. Shame about the DVD not > > being as originally advertised - 'Brainstorm' was > > superb last tour! If you ever get the explanation I'd > > love to know too! > > > > Mick > > > > > > > > --- M Holmes wrote: > > > > > ---- Start of forwarded text ---- > > > > > > > > What was the tracklist off the TMTYL DVD again? > > > I seem to have an ad > > > > > from Ande for the CD plus extra track (Paradox) > > > where the DVD also has a > > > > > different track listing. > > > > > > > > Spirit of the Age-video > > > > > Silver Machine-live > > > > > The Right to Decide-live > > > > > Spirit of the Age-live > > > > > Psychedelic Warlords-live > > > > > > > Oh, OK, the DVD on the new listing by Ande has: > > > > > > > DVD Track List: > > > > 01. Spirit Of The Age (demo) > > > > 02. Silver Machine (live) > > > > 03. The Right Stuff (live) > > > > 04. Spirit Of The Age (live) > > > > 05. Brainstorm (live) > > > > > > I've just reveived the CD and the DVD is > > > mysteriously the same as on the > > > original release. It appears that the C&D ad was > > > wrong about the extra > > > track on the CD (Ande said he'd explain this > > > later...) and now the DVD > > > isn't a different tracklist either. > > > > > > What's going on? > > > > > > FoFP > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new > > Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com > > From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Dec 8 04:01:04 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:01:04 +0000 Subject: Unusual Item In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now if thats true, that has to be the ultimate collectors piece, a fricking car... I can see the conversatioon with Mrs ferguson taking a distinctly downward turn when presenting her with my next intended purchase hahahahahahaha Especially as it wouldn't be an automatic & mommy doesn't drive a stick shift. pete howe wrote on 07/12/2005, 17:24: > yep, and i think that mazda even released a limited edition car called > "silver machine" with "hawkwind" written on it, too.Ive seen a photo > of one. > pete > > > >From: eddie jobson > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >Subject: Re: Unusual Item > >Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:59:23 +0000 > > > >Think they did, an excerpt of it was used on Top Gear on Sunday also, > hot > >on > >the heels of The Forge of Vulcan in the last series. > > > >Eddie. > > > > > >>From: Iain Ferguson > >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >>Subject: Re: Unusual Item > >>Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:49:10 +0000 > >> > >>Hi Mike, > >> > >>Didn't Mazda use Silver machine for a TV advert a few years ago ? > >> > >>Iain > >> > >>M Holmes wrote on 07/12/2005, 16:36: > >> > >> > Just won on Ebay a CD with the original Silver Machine on it. > The CD > >>is > >> > one sided with only that track and writing on it says that it's > >>brought > >> > to us by Mazda. Release is dated 2000. > >> > > >> > Item 4797049267 > >> > > >> > Does anyone know the provenance of this release? > >> > > >> > FoFP > >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! > http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Dec 8 05:52:15 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:52:15 GMT Subject: Unusual Item In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:01:04 +0000 Message-ID: Iain Ferguson writes: > pete howe wrote on 07/12/2005, 17:24: > > yep, and i think that mazda even released a limited edition car called > > "silver machine" with "hawkwind" written on it, too.Ive seen a photo > > of one. > Now if thats true, that has to be the ultimate collectors piece, a > fricking car... > I can see the conversatioon with Mrs ferguson taking a distinctly > downward turn when presenting her with my next intended purchase Yeah, I can't say that Lucy took it exactly well, particularly the part about needing more shelf space... FoFP From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Dec 8 11:48:30 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:48:30 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - almost there! Message-ID: hi all just the weekly reminder in case you've yet to vote in this weeks Right To Decide vote, just click on http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm for everything you need to know there's an updated Pie chart and from that you'll see that things are pretty tight and certainly anyone of three could lose out for the right to be in our final selection so never has your vote been so important and don't forget to encourage friends and family to also get involved, there vote could make all the difference! thanks as ever Regards Dave From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Dec 8 12:19:05 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:19:05 +0000 Subject: OFF: Fun face recognition In-Reply-To: <200511291647.jATGlM7V006647@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 29/11/2005 16:47, M Holmes wrote: > Speaking of lookalikes though: on the titles of Malcolm in the Middle, > in the very first second, there's a shot of a cartoon figure with a dark > hood on. I swear it looks like Brock in some 1980's picture where I've > seen him in a hooded cowl - presumably Black Sword era. I think I know the one you mean -- I'm pretty sure its a character from the Nazca anime series! But it suits CotBS Brock well :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea at carlaz.com http://www.carlaz.com/ From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 9 05:53:07 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:53:07 +0000 Subject: Matthew Wright Sings on TV Message-ID: Don't get your hopes up but my Wife has just told me that Stars in their Eyes Xmas special on Christmas Eve has Matthew on. As said don't get excited - he's singing a duet with Vanessa Phelps - I suppose it could be Gimme Shelter - Vanessa as Sam Fox anyone - what a thought!!!! Steve From Marc.Phillipps at ENFIELD.NHS.UK Fri Dec 9 06:13:51 2005 From: Marc.Phillipps at ENFIELD.NHS.UK (Phillipps Marc) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:13:51 -0000 Subject: [Hawkwind] Matthew Wright Sings on TV Message-ID: >Don't get your hopes up but my Wife has just told me that Stars in their Eyes Xmas >special on Christmas Eve has Matthew on. >As said don't get excited - he's singing a duet with Vanessa Phelps Maybe he's doing Silver Machine with Vanessa as Stacia? Hmm . . . *throws minds eye in boil wash* Marc. This communication may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information within is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender, then delete and destroy any copies of it. 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From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Dec 9 06:26:18 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:26:18 +0000 Subject: [Hawkwind] Matthew Wright Sings on TV In-Reply-To: <64EA4AC86606ED4D87C8806DDA8A4A6A0115E5F5@194-101-188-9.ipreverse010302.nhs.uk> Message-ID: WOW that would be the best ITV program ever i reacon. hahahaha Phillipps Marc wrote on 09/12/2005, 11:13: > >Don't get your hopes up but my Wife has just told me that Stars in their > Eyes Xmas >special on Christmas Eve has Matthew on. > > >As said don't get excited - he's singing a duet with Vanessa Phelps > > > Maybe he's doing Silver Machine with Vanessa as Stacia? > > > Hmm . . . > > > *throws minds eye in boil wash* > > > > Marc. > > > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is confidential and > legally > privileged. 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This > communication is from the Health Informatics Service serving Barnet > Enfield > & Haringey Health Communities. > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Dec 9 08:49:13 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:49:13 GMT Subject: We had to destroy the industry to save it Message-ID: The Music Biz war on its customers is escalated: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Dec 9 14:45:29 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:45:29 -0600 Subject: HW: tour t-shirt Message-ID: Hi folks, Would anyone be willing to pick me up a t-shirt from the upcoming minitour? Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Dec 9 15:19:58 2005 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:19:58 -0700 Subject: tour t-shirt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Me, too. Arin has been my source the last few years (thanks Arin!) Mark mark at clemensandassociates.com -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins Subject: HW: tour t-shirt Hi folks, Would anyone be willing to pick me up a t-shirt from the upcoming minitour? Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Fri Dec 9 16:46:24 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:46:24 -0000 Subject: We had to destroy the industry to save it In-Reply-To: <200512091349.jB9DnDr3002609@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: It's a tough one really. From the point of view of the consumer, I would like everything for free! However, lyrics are no different from books or other copyrighted works. They are protected and they are a source of income for the author, composer, etc. I don't know if war is being declared. More that it's not as "peaceful" as it once was. The power of the internet... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 09 December 2005 13:49 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: We had to destroy the industry to save it The Music Biz war on its customers is escalated: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4508158.stm From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Dec 9 17:22:24 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:22:24 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - "IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT" Message-ID: hi all just a quick but essential post. whether you've voted or not can i urge you all to visit the Right To Decide page at http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm and read the "IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT" self explanatory and I'm sure will of interest to many of you cheers Dave From asg at MVDBASE.COM Fri Dec 9 18:57:07 2005 From: asg at MVDBASE.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:57:07 +0100 Subject: [OFF] Re: We had to destroy the industry to save it In-Reply-To: <001001c5fd0a$008d7ce0$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: > It's a tough one really. From the point of view of the consumer, I would > like everything for free! However, lyrics are no different from books or > other copyrighted works. I'm not so sure about that. I mean, look at the facts: 99% of the time you will now have the lyrics included when you buy a CD. Doesn't this mean that they are included in the price, or, technically speaking, that they are offered for free if you buy the CD? Of course, this brings up another question: why look up the lyrics if you already have the album with them? One could conclude that only people with pirated copies are looking for the lyrics, but this isn't necessarily true. I mean there could be plenty of reasons for looking up lyrics: the printed copy might be difficult to read (characters too small, weird font, etc) or more simply a listener might want to have it on their computer for easier access and not want to bother with typing it themselves (copy-pasting would be much easier, heheh)... It's also possible, for older albums, that the listener owns the original release, without the lyrics, and that he doesn't feel like buying a rerelease just to have the lyrics... Tabs, though, are an entirely different story since they don't offer those in the booklets (yet?), but still... this seems to me like a really stupid move, and most likely done for the wrong reasons... like it says on that page, they're bitter about how things have gone with filesharing, so it looks to me like they're doing this mostly as a way to compensate/get revenge/whatever word you want to use, but you get the idea. > They are protected and they are a source of > income for the author, composer, etc. I don't know if war is being > declared. More that it's not as "peaceful" as it once was. Seriously. How big a market is this? I must have bought one or two "tab books" (or whatever they're called) in my life... granted, I'm not a musician, but this can't possibly be that big a market, can it? I dunno, it just sounds to me like a really poor excuse. I really doubt the artists are expecting to earn a living out of selling tabs in any case. Heck, I'm even wondering if they actually earn anything out of it? I wouldn't be surprised if all the earnings from those sells just went to the labels or whatnot. Alex. -- --------------------------------------------------- http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] Progressive rock : prog.xrs.net / rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Dec 9 19:49:41 2005 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 19:49:41 -0500 Subject: [OFF] Re: We had to destroy the industry to save it In-Reply-To: <200512100056.49635.asg@mvdbase.com> Message-ID: 50 years ago most of a songwriter's earnings came from printed sheet music. That market has diminished dramatically. At one time publishers would give out huge advances to sign a writer to their company, not anymore. I'm not sure about the reasons for this but I think the availability of these tab and lyric websites are as much a reaction to the failure of publishers to make the material online easily available and affordable as anything else. What we're seeing her is more some publisher's association gearing up for an alternate delivery system. The problem with iTunes is the lack of printed material to go with your tunes. How hard would it be to include a link for publishing material to go with your song? But don't think the artist doesn't get much from these sales. They do. I should know. On Dec 9, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Alex S. Garcia wrote: >> It's a tough one really. From the point of view of the consumer, >> I would >> like everything for free! However, lyrics are no different from >> books or >> other copyrighted works. > > I'm not so sure about that. I mean, look at the facts: 99% of the > time you > will now have the lyrics included when you buy a CD. Doesn't this > mean that > they are included in the price, or, technically speaking, that they > are > offered for free if you buy the CD? Of course, this brings up another > question: why look up the lyrics if you already have the album with > them? One > could conclude that only people with pirated copies are looking for > the > lyrics, but this isn't necessarily true. I mean there could be > plenty of > reasons for looking up lyrics: the printed copy might be difficult > to read > (characters too small, weird font, etc) or more simply a listener > might want > to have it on their computer for easier access and not want to > bother with > typing it themselves (copy-pasting would be much easier, heheh)... > It's also > possible, for older albums, that the listener owns the original > release, > without the lyrics, and that he doesn't feel like buying a > rerelease just to > have the lyrics... > > Tabs, though, are an entirely different story since they don't > offer those in > the booklets (yet?), but still... this seems to me like a really > stupid move, > and most likely done for the wrong reasons... like it says on that > page, > they're bitter about how things have gone with filesharing, so it > looks to me > like they're doing this mostly as a way to compensate/get revenge/ > whatever > word you want to use, but you get the idea. > >> They are protected and they are a source of >> income for the author, composer, etc. I don't know if war is being >> declared. More that it's not as "peaceful" as it once was. > > Seriously. How big a market is this? I must have bought one or two > "tab > books" (or whatever they're called) in my life... granted, I'm not a > musician, but this can't possibly be that big a market, can it? I > dunno, it > just sounds to me like a really poor excuse. I really doubt the > artists are > expecting to earn a living out of selling tabs in any case. Heck, > I'm even > wondering if they actually earn anything out of it? I wouldn't be > surprised > if all the earnings from those sells just went to the labels or > whatnot. > > > > Alex. > -- > --------------------------------------------------- > http://www.alexsgarcia.com/ > Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] > http://www.freelists.org/list/mv [mailing-list] > Progressive rock : prog.xrs.net / rip.xrs.net > --------------------------------------------------- From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Dec 9 22:44:24 2005 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 03:44:24 +0000 Subject: Unusual Item/hi steve In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Steve,Ben's mate Alan Just checking in.Great to see you on list.Last saw you at the Preston Fest! You had your own T-shirt made and I'd done the same! Not for any gain I'd like to add!Yuo gonna make it over for Xmas?Alan Day. >From: Steve Youles >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Unusual Item >Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:18:40 -0500 > >Hi Mike > >Yes, it's a genuine item. Mazda were using Silver Machine in a series of >TV ads in 2000, and the gimmick was that if you went to a Mazda dealer for >a test drive, they would give you a copy of the promo CD. I have an image >of the CD at http://www.starfarer.net/photos102.html > >Cheers > >Steve > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:36:54 GMT, M Holmes wrote: > > >Just won on Ebay a CD with the original Silver Machine on it. The CD is > >one sided with only that track and writing on it says that it's brought > >to us by Mazda. Release is dated 2000. > > > >Item 4797049267 > > > >Does anyone know the provenance of this release? > > > >FoFP From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Dec 9 22:55:23 2005 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 03:55:23 +0000 Subject: London Meet Up... In-Reply-To: <541D1B6B-0B88-4F7C-B094-3E77FB3118A4@carlaz.com> Message-ID: This sounds awful,but I really think whats stopped me staying abroad(out side UK) is the fact of Hawkwind.Weird, but I just couldn't do it! I even met a hawkwind nut that owned a great Bar in Bangkok."Jool's PUB Soi 4 Sukumvit,Go there!He's got loads of Hawk related stuff>>>waffle waffle,,,Bye!See you in Astoria?!!!! >From: Carl Edlund Anderson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: London Meet Up... >Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:42:25 +0000 > >On 07 Dec 2005, at 04:07, Deborah Vacano wrote: >>Will Hawkwind ever come to America?? >>Please?? > >When was the last time? Sometime in the late 90s +Ron Tree and >+Jerry but -Alan, wasn't it? > >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >http://www.carlaz.com/ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Dec 10 05:23:02 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:23:02 +0000 Subject: [OFF] Re: We had to destroy the industry to save it In-Reply-To: <200512100056.49635.asg@mvdbase.com> Message-ID: The problem here is the industry (or elements in the industry) blindly charging off to shut down free tab/lyrics sites without offering an viable alternative. I mean, this is exactly what happened with digital downloads! Clearly people will pay a few cents to download a decent quality song fast and easy from iTunes. Lots of people would probably pay a few cents to download an accurate and legal tablature/sheet music file of a song they wanted to learn to play. But there's not a good clear model in place for this. There oughta be an "iTab Music Store" set up and running before anyone clears away "Tabster" or it'll just create ill-will towards "the industry suits who just don't get it" ... again ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Dec 10 05:26:28 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:26:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Space Rock, Electronic and all genres Radio shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com December 11, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #138), The Electronic Cottage (show #18), Drool Trough (show #40), and Tapegerm Radio (show #6). See the playlists below. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #138) F/i ? ?Grandfather Blanga and His Band Light it Up? (from Blanga) Chief Mart?s ? ?Niz Niz? (from Peter Erdnuss) Secret Saucer ? ?Solar Winds? (from Element 115) The Mysteriosos ? ?7 Years? (from The Mysteriosos) Lamp of the Universe ? track 5 (from Heru) Seven that Spells ? ?Space Cake Overload? (from My Mommy Wants to Kiss Your Mamma) Drunken Gunmen ? ?One Revolving Whole? (from Beyond the Green Sun) Trigon ? ?Fette Beute? (from Emergent) Skinbat Scramble ? ?Eternity? (from Volume 5: The Lost Book of the Psychedelic Pirates) Space Debris ? ?Trans Odenwald? (From Kraut-Lok) The Star Diaries ? ?Mind of Ptah? (from Summers in Andromeda) The Electronic Cottage (show #18) TUNE IN FOR A CHANCE TO WIN A FREE MYSTIC TECH CD The Electronic Cottage was created to give an audio spotlight to the ambient, cosmic space, and general electronic sound explorations we receive at Aural Innovations. The show is named after Hal McGee's zine of the same name that published in the late 1980's and early 1990's. Mystic Tech ? ?Deck the Halls? (from Once Beyond a Winter Soltice) Mystic Tech ? ?Longest Night? (from Once Beyond a Winter Soltice) Book of Shadows ? ?The Blue Whale? (from Mantis) O-Head ? ?Twilight Pilot? (from Steps Across the Cortex) Gods of Electricity ? ?Sundiving? (from Sundiving) Mooch ? ?Flight of the Dub Voyager (excerpt)? (From Flight of the Dub Voyager) Hal McGee ? ?Technopolis? (from Tapegerm Collection Volume One) Jack Daddy Loops AKA Loopty ? ?Sharron & Richard? (from People) Charles Goff III & Chris Phinney ? ?Phactory Pharm? (from Maestros of the Magnetic Age) Burning Star Core ? ?I Wanna Make A Super-Sonic Women Of You? (from Mes Soldats Stupides) Marvin Ayres ? ?Scape ? Bit Hop? (from Scape) Miasmos ? ?Beyond It She Saw ? (from Towards the Nocturnal Luminary) Drool Trough (show #40) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. Mozart Rottweiler ? ?Plan 9 Christmas from Outer Space? (from Plan 9 Christmas from Outer Space) Bloom ? ?Jingle Bell? (from Kudara + 1) La STPO - "DadaMax Stellt Loplop Vor" (from Le Combat Occulte) Tim Jones & Terri~B ? ?Down by the River? (from Pen Pals 4) Eric Wallack ? ?Cabin Song? (from Pen Pals 4) Charles Goff III & Chris Phinney ? ?Argument? (from Maestros of the Magnetic Age) Mask ? ?Waking the Dream? (from Heavy Petal) INFRONT ? ?Mensura Zoili? (from Wordless) The Upsidedown ? ?Bumpersticker? (from Trust Electricity) The Naked Eye ? ?Never Gonna Kill Myself Again? (from Done and Dusted) Sonic Adventure Project ? ?Circuit? (from Exergonic) Justice on a Budget ? ?Occam?s Razor? (from Justice on a Budget) The Slow Poisoner ? ?The Weeds Took Over the Town? (from Fatal Floral Phonograph) Ons?gen Ensemble ? ?Va?no? (from Hiukkavaara Session) The Sleepers ? ?Frenchie? (from Birthday) Sh:mantra ? ?Alternate Ending? (from A System of Moments) Mega Ass ? ?For the Girls in the Thongs? (from Francis Zappatista?s Blues) Electric Blackbird ? ?Low? (from No Sleep Til Bushland) Alcibiades Jones ? ?The Villa is Burning? (from Refraction Mirage) Planet & Stars ? ?Tyler? (from Tyler EP) Tapegerm Radio (show #6) Tapegerm was started in May 2000 by a few folks who were making mixes of loops taken from old cassette tape albums, homemade tracks, and loops of our own for a new project being run at http://homemademusic.com. After a few months a few of us thought it would be cool to start collaborating together by dropping our loops into a pool shared by everyone in the group and see what kind of music came out. Basically we're a bunch of artists who have fun combining sounds in different ways and hearing how other artists combine those sounds in other ways. Visit our web site at http://tapegerm.com Blind Mime - Dog" Arthur Loves Plastic - Eternity hebephrenic - Over Analyzed Virus Factory - Anamorphesis Heuristics Inc. - Regeneration Wayne Noel - DuLubup A.C. - Chlorophyll DJ Get Yo Fat On - The Universal Re-Monster alastor - figurine (monkeyshine) International Garbageman - 2 blip 17 blop Omnitechnomatrix - Lizard Shell - In the Groove MORPHINE JELLO - Radar Spotting Insecta Sonic - Insurrection M-100 - thirty five Michael A Cosma - SecretDoors David Fuglewicz - A Tear In The Fabric D. Howse - Flying Souls (Salvia Mix) Anti - Gravity Workshop - Quetiapine Fumaration International Garbageman - Leaves Hal McGee - McGee's Travels In Floridada: The Alachua Savanna Violet - Germ Mutation IG-1 Desiderium - Mr. Subliminal Mental Anguish - Never Look a Gift Horse in the Mouth Buzzsaw & The Shavings - And Around the Circus Maximus for Trajan Caesar Cystem - Condoleezza, Check My Posse (structure slave mix) http://Aural-Innovations.com From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Sat Dec 10 06:53:27 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:53:27 -0000 Subject: Off: After gig party? Message-ID: Hi, We are in the process of bookng hotels for the Astoria gig... don't suppose the band want to divulge where they are staying so we can gatecrash their after gig party? I'm bringing a young friend up who has bever seen HW before and I was hoping to make it a once in a lifetime evening for him - not that just the gig itslef won't do that..... No harm in asking?!! regards maxine From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sat Dec 10 15:59:17 2005 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:59:17 +0100 Subject: London Meet Up... Message-ID: Sorry Alan,there is only one Hawknut and that's me. I'm already known for that for years,wonder how this comes? Even the Hawklords himselfs calls me the Hawknut.I take great pride into this. Tongue In Cheek?? Anyway someone once called me the the hawknut and it sticked. greetings filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: "alan day" To: Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:55 AM Subject: Re: London Meet Up... > This sounds awful,but I really think whats stopped me staying abroad(out > side UK) is the fact of Hawkwind.Weird, but I just couldn't do it! I even > met a hawkwind nut that owned a great Bar in Bangkok."Jool's PUB Soi 4 > Sukumvit,Go there!He's got loads of Hawk related stuff>>>waffle > waffle,,,Bye!See you in Astoria?!!!! > > >>From: Carl Edlund Anderson >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Subject: Re: London Meet Up... >>Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 08:42:25 +0000 >> >>On 07 Dec 2005, at 04:07, Deborah Vacano wrote: >>>Will Hawkwind ever come to America?? >>>Please?? >> >>When was the last time? Sometime in the late 90s +Ron Tree and >>+Jerry but -Alan, wasn't it? >> >>Cheers, >>Carl >> >>-- >>Carl Edlund Anderson >>http://www.carlaz.com/ > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Dec 10 16:20:10 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:20:10 +0000 Subject: HW: London Meet Up... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 07:12:17AM -0600, Arin Komins typed out: > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, M Holmes wrote: > :StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > :> Do any of you Londoners know of a suitable meeting point for the Astoria gig? > :> Preferably (essentially) with a good selection of quality real ales. > :> As there are life forms travelling from various nooks and crannies of the > :> universe, it would be good to sort out a decent meeting point. > :Let's make it the Angel again since at least everyone from the last four > :years knows where it is. Does anyone remember the street address? > I think this is it: > > The Angel > 61 St. Giles High Street, London > WC2H 8LE > > (address snaffled from: > http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/clubs_bars/venue-357.php) Dear All, that's it, indeed, and a fine choice of pub. I'm still not sure if I can make this one, but if I can, I/we will try and find people there. Cool. Yours, Jon ObMP3: Oresund Space Collective - `Space Groove' -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Dec 10 16:38:15 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:38:15 EST Subject: HW: London Meet Up... Message-ID: So is it The Angel? Or is it the Nellie Deane? Come on, lets get it together and fix on one place that on the day will be full of Hawkwind fans... and who knows, maybe a Hawk will fly in. Steve. In a message dated 12/10/2005 21:21:05 GMT Standard Time, _jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK_ (mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK) writes: On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 07:12:17AM -0600, Arin Komins typed out: > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, M Holmes wrote: > :StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > :> Do any of you Londoners know of a suitable meeting point for the Astoria gig? > :> Preferably (essentially) with a good selection of quality real ales. > :> As there are life forms travelling from various nooks and crannies of the > :> universe, it would be good to sort out a decent meeting point. > :Let's make it the Angel again since at least everyone from the last four > :years knows where it is. Does anyone remember the street address? > I think this is it: > > The Angel > 61 St. Giles High Street, London > WC2H 8LE From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sat Dec 10 16:50:16 2005 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:50:16 +0100 Subject: HW: London Meet Up... Message-ID: Well,there are some nice photos on the net from the first time we met at the The Angel with Arin.It was a nice place and we had a lot of laughs,so I would recommen The Angel,but hey it's just a pub like all other pubs,the most importaint thing is the company ? greetings the one and only hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: London Meet Up... > So is it The Angel? Or is it the Nellie Deane? > Come on, lets get it together and fix on one place that on the day will be > full of Hawkwind fans... and who knows, maybe a Hawk will fly in. > > Steve. > > In a message dated 12/10/2005 21:21:05 GMT Standard Time, > _jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK_ (mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK) > writes: > > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 07:12:17AM -0600, Arin Komins typed out: >> On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, M Holmes wrote: >> :StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: >> :> Do any of you Londoners know of a suitable meeting point for the > Astoria gig? >> :> Preferably (essentially) with a good selection of quality real ales. >> :> As there are life forms travelling from various nooks and crannies of > the >> :> universe, it would be good to sort out a decent meeting point. >> :Let's make it the Angel again since at least everyone from the last >> four >> :years knows where it is. Does anyone remember the street address? >> I think this is it: >> >> The Angel >> 61 St. Giles High Street, London >> WC2H 8LE > > From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Dec 11 07:16:30 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:16:30 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - Get voting! Message-ID: hi all and for the last time here we go the results are in from the last vote and the remaining 4 songs can now be found as ever at http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm last week was another record breaking vote as far as numbers go and now we're down to the real nitty gritty, never has your vote been so important! thanks as ever for your continued interest all the best From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Dec 11 13:28:53 2005 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:28:53 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - Get voting! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 07:16 -0500, Dave Law wrote: > hi all > > and for the last time here we go > > the results are in from the last vote and the remaining 4 songs can now be > found as ever at > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm > > last week was another record breaking vote as far as numbers go and now > we're down to the real nitty gritty, never has your vote been so important! On the "Right to Decide" Web page, the recent "IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT" states the following: =====>===== Hawkwind feel that they want to make each of the shows special and do not wish to single out London as "The big one" so here's what's been decided - There will be no voting at the gigs themselves, instead the poll will continue on here in the same manner it has done so for the last six weeks. However once the final four have been decided this Sunday the last vote will last until 20.00 UK time on Thursday 15th December. At this point I will, by the wonders of modern technology phone Dave and the rest of the band who will be waiting to go onstage in Birkenhead and let them know the final result and it's their intention to play the winning song AT ALL FOUR GIGS! =====<===== Here's a novel idea, then. If, as the above announcement implies, Hawkwind are ready and rehearsed on the 15th December to play ANY of the four currently nominated songs at a moment's notice, then why don't they give the fans a real Christmas treat and play all of the songs in the current shortlist, one at each of the four shows. (I suppose you could still have a vote to decide which song gets to take pride of place and close out the tour.) Why, it might even encourage fans to catch more than one show and reward those loyal fans that do... Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Dec 11 14:33:56 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:33:56 +0100 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - Get voting! In-Reply-To: <1134325733.804.8.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> Message-ID: Very good idea Paul !!! Cheers Bernhard Here's a novel idea, then. If, as the above announcement implies, Hawkwind are ready and rehearsed on the 15th December to play ANY of the four currently nominated songs at a moment's notice, then why don't they give the fans a real Christmas treat and play all of the songs in the current shortlist, one at each of the four shows. (I suppose you could still have a vote to decide which song gets to take pride of place and close out the tour.) Why, it might even encourage fans to catch more than one show and reward those loyal fans that do... Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Dec 11 17:31:17 2005 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:31:17 -0000 Subject: tour t-shirt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins > Sent: 09 December 2005 19:45 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: HW: tour t-shirt > > > Hi folks, > > Would anyone be willing to pick me up a t-shirt from the > upcoming minitour? > > Thanks! > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Assistant Director/NBS > University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Dec 11 19:25:31 2005 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:25:31 -0600 Subject: HW: Marc Bolan Show In-Reply-To: <1ElWxH-0qcwKn0@fwd35.sul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Am I right in thinking HW appeared on the Marc Bolan show in the 70's? (or am I misremembering) All episodes of Marc Bolans show are being issued on DVD 23rd January. Rich From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Dec 11 19:30:48 2005 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:30:48 -0600 Subject: HW: DOOM Novelisation In-Reply-To: <1ElWxH-0qcwKn0@fwd35.sul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Interestingly we discovered that John Shirley, the author of the DOOM movie novelisation starts the book with a verse of Lyrics from 'The Right Stuff', only quoted as being by MONSTER MAGNET. Arin dropped him email to point out that they were not the originators ;-) Strangely looking at the other novelisation we have by Mr Shirley (Constantine), he has some Blue Oyster Cult lyrics at the start of the book. Rich From sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Dec 11 19:48:44 2005 From: sunboxhouse at HOTMAIL.COM (pete howe) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:48:44 +0000 Subject: HW: Marc Bolan Show In-Reply-To: <439CC37B.6090505@comcast.net> Message-ID: yes, they mimed to quark strangeness and charm..bob calvert had a stuffed owl on his arm...but dave brock didnt turn up..(various reasons have been given as to why he didnt!)..Id love to get hold of a copy of the performance .Will deffo look out for that :-) pete >From: Rich Warren >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: HW: Marc Bolan Show >Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:25:31 -0600 > >Am I right in thinking HW appeared on the Marc Bolan show in the 70's? >(or am I misremembering) > >All episodes of Marc Bolans show are being issued on DVD 23rd January. > >Rich _________________________________________________________________ Are you using the latest version of MSN Messenger? Download MSN Messenger 7.5 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Dec 11 19:47:55 2005 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:47:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Marc Bolan Show Message-ID: Rich: According to the cd 'Marc,Songs From the Granada TV series' Hawkwind was a guest on the 3rd show, which aired sept.7,1977. Hawkwind performed 'QS&C' on the show. (not on the cd however, it only showcases Marc's songs). tim 8>)... Rich Warren wrote: > > Am I right in thinking HW appeared on the Marc Bolan show in the 70's? > (or am I misremembering) > > All episodes of Marc Bolans show are being issued on DVD 23rd January. > > Rich From youless at COX.NET Sun Dec 11 21:20:57 2005 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:20:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Marc Bolan Show Message-ID: The bit we're interested in is here: http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/_hwrelease/hw77qsc.wmv Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:25:31 -0600, Rich Warren wrote: >Am I right in thinking HW appeared on the Marc Bolan show in the 70's? >(or am I misremembering) > >All episodes of Marc Bolans show are being issued on DVD 23rd January. > >Rich From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Dec 11 21:49:57 2005 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:49:57 -0600 Subject: HW: Marc Bolan Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Steve :-) That's certainly some interesting Birding action from Bob. Rich From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Sun Dec 11 23:56:17 2005 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:56:17 +1100 Subject: Bolan Show Message-ID: Could someone please send the link for the download from the show again. I accidentally deleted it. Thanks heaps Allan Sharpe From atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM Mon Dec 12 03:38:52 2005 From: atnr63 at DSL.PIPEX.COM (mark von bargen) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:38:52 -0000 Subject: Bolan Show In-Reply-To: <007d01c5fed8$66c9a810$0901a8c0@allan9c4aac976> Message-ID: Here you go Allan. http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/_hwrelease/hw77qsc.wmv -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Allan Sharpe Sent: 12 December 2005 04:56 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Bolan Show Could someone please send the link for the download from the show again. I accidentally deleted it. Thanks heaps Allan Sharpe From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 12 06:01:45 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:01:45 GMT Subject: HW: London Meet Up... In-Reply-To: StevePXR5@AOL.COM's message of Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:38:15 EST Message-ID: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > So is it The Angel? Or is it the Nellie Deane? It's the Angel. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 12 06:03:30 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:03:30 GMT Subject: Birkenhead pub Message-ID: Let's meet in The Brass Balance (where the crew had their grub last year). Diagonally cross the Square from Hamilton Square station and it's on the left a wee ways down the main street there. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 12 06:07:49 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:07:49 GMT Subject: Manchester pub??? Message-ID: The Student Union location of the gig was a bit of a hole last year and bloody freezing. Any suggestions of a better place to meet up? Who's going to Manchester? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 12 09:20:40 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:20:40 GMT Subject: Not even Turner would wear this Message-ID: http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 12 10:08:04 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:08:04 -0000 Subject: Real Festival Music -DVDs-CDs-Christmas orders Message-ID: Hiya all you BOC'ers Real Festival Music DVDs: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/videos.html Featuring: Inner City Unit, Nik Turner's Hawkestra, Ron Tree, Judge Trev, Captain Sensible, Jaki Windmill, Big Green Gathering etc Real Festival Music CDs: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html Featuring: Nik Turner, Judge Trev, Jaki Windmill, Dead Plants, Ron Tree, Inner City Unit, Kissmet, Katus, Atomgods, Harvey Bainbridge, Mr Quimbys Beard, The Pyramids of Snafu, 2000 DS, Ralph Beauvert, Schnusic, Zoopaloop, Gaia Consort, T30 Control All pre-Christmas orders despatched within two working days ..AND A MERRY MIDWINTER TO YOU ALL REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, Chat, Healers to receive updates in your inbox, add sender judge48 at hotmail.com to your address book to be removed from real festival music updates, reply with "unsubscribe" From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Mon Dec 12 10:41:09 2005 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:41:09 -0500 Subject: Not even Turner would wear this Message-ID: > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 Geez, hon, how about a NSFW warning? That was, um, startling. -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 12 11:02:21 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:02:21 GMT Subject: Not even Turner would wear this In-Reply-To: Jean Lansford's message of Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:41:09 -0500 Message-ID: Jean Lansford writes: > > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 > Geez, hon, how about a NSFW warning? That was, um, startling. Errr, yeah. Prolly not safe if your boss/spouse lacks a robust SoH. I have to admit it is quite striking though. Maybe if they could all be lit in different colours it'd acquire that xmassy look... FoFP From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 12 12:30:15 2005 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:30:15 -0500 Subject: Birkenhead pub Message-ID: Just out of curiosity, who's going to the Birkenhead gig from this list? I'm looking forward to Thursday. I'm told it's a good venue. From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 12 12:38:04 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:38:04 -0000 Subject: Not even Turner would wear this Message-ID: but that IS nik - he's in his civies trev ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Not even Turner would wear this > Jean Lansford writes: > >> > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 > >> Geez, hon, how about a NSFW warning? That was, um, startling. > > Errr, yeah. Prolly not safe if your boss/spouse lacks a robust SoH. > > I have to admit it is quite striking though. Maybe if they could all be > lit in different colours it'd acquire that xmassy look... > > FoFP > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 12 12:43:15 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:43:15 GMT Subject: Birkenhead pub In-Reply-To: Alastair Sumner's message of Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:30:15 -0500 Message-ID: Alastair Sumner writes: > Just out of curiosity, who's going to the Birkenhead gig from this list? > I'm looking forward to Thursday. I'm told it's a good venue. Well, me obviously. FoFP From deborah at VACANO.ORG Mon Dec 12 12:50:12 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:50:12 -0700 Subject: Not even Turner would wear this Message-ID: Wholly mother of God!! What a crazy get up!! Deborah -------Original Message------- From: trev Date: 12/12/05 10:40:31 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Not even Turner would wear this but that IS nik - he's in his civies trev ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Not even Turner would wear this > Jean Lansford writes: > >> > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 > >> Geez, hon, how about a NSFW warning? That was, um, startling. > > Errr, yeah. Prolly not safe if your boss/spouse lacks a robust SoH. > > I have to admit it is quite striking though. Maybe if they could all be > lit in different colours it'd acquire that xmassy look... > > FoFP > From nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM Mon Dec 12 13:21:59 2005 From: nycademon at SPIRALREALM.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:21:59 -0700 Subject: Not even Turner would wear this In-Reply-To: <200512121420.jBCEKeqx026421@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: >http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 > > Big deal. A lot of people wear Dickies (www.dickies.com) every day. :-) Guido From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Mon Dec 12 13:27:37 2005 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:27:37 -0500 Subject: Not even Turner would wear this Message-ID: > From: M Holmes > > Jean Lansford writes: > > > Geez, hon, how about a NSFW warning? That was, um, startling. > > Errr, yeah. Prolly not safe if your boss/spouse lacks a robust SoH. Fortunately, mine do, but not everyone is so blessed. :) > I have to admit it is quite striking though. Maybe if they could all be > lit in different colours it'd acquire that xmassy look... Now there's a thought. And then pair it with that anatomically-correct women's privates costume the kid in Ann Arbor wore to school for Hallowe'en a few years back. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Dec 12 15:32:47 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:32:47 EST Subject: Not even Turner would wear this Message-ID: Errm... just what were you looking for when you found this? Steve. In a message dated 12/12/2005 14:23:21 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Dec 12 15:45:19 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:45:19 EST Subject: Manchester pub??? Message-ID: The Salisbury, just around the corner from Oxford Road Station. Real ales aplenty! Steve. In a message dated 12/12/2005 11:08:37 GMT Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: The Student Union location of the gig was a bit of a hole last year and bloody freezing. Any suggestions of a better place to meet up? Who's going to Manchester? From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Dec 14 12:45:00 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:45:00 +0000 Subject: HW: DOOM Novelisation In-Reply-To: <439CC4B8.7070605@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 06:30:48PM -0600, Rich Warren typed out: > Interestingly we discovered that John Shirley, the author of the DOOM > movie novelisation starts the book with a verse of Lyrics from 'The > Right Stuff', only quoted as being by MONSTER MAGNET. > > Arin dropped him email to point out that they were not the originators ;-) > > Strangely looking at the other novelisation we have by Mr Shirley > (Constantine), he has some Blue Oyster Cult lyrics at the start of the book. That at least is probably more explicable, as he was the major lyricist for the last two BOC albums, though whether his stuff was good or not is another debate; I think that whatever equality it had was rather lost in the editing process. What writing of his I've seen has been good but I'm not sure I'd go for a whole novel of it. Yours, Jon ObCD: Hawkwind - _Love in Space_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 14 16:35:53 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:35:53 -0000 Subject: Get Your on topic Cds and Vids here... Message-ID: Right, If no one orders anything I'm gonna give up and kill myself...cough! http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/videos.html All pre-Christmas orders despatched within 2 days Best Wishes, Judge Trev From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Dec 14 18:33:32 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:33:32 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide - barely 20 hours to go Message-ID: hi all with little over 20 hours to go it really is a case of now or never in the Right To Decide song vote http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/song%20vote.htm click on the link above and in less time than it's taken you to read this you can cast your vote. polling has been fast and furious all week and is by far the most exciting vote to date with the lead changing several times and as i write this a mere 10 votes separate the top three songs, it's still all to play for. for the final time, thanks for your interest! all the best Dave From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Dec 14 20:57:14 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:57:14 -0000 Subject: Get Your on topic Cds and Vids here... Message-ID: Been nice knowin ya - lol - best of luck!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: trev To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: Get Your on topic Cds and Vids here... Right, If no one orders anything I'm gonna give up and kill myself...cough! http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/videos.html All pre-Christmas orders despatched within 2 days Best Wishes, Judge Trev From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Dec 14 21:04:54 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:04:54 -0000 Subject: Get Your on topic Cds and Vids here... Message-ID: erm... it's all part of our new "advanced marketing strategies" programme trev REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, Chat, Healers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyberkrel" To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:57 AM Subject: Re: Get Your on topic Cds and Vids here... > Been nice knowin ya - lol - best of luck!!!! > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: trev > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:35 PM > Subject: Get Your on topic Cds and Vids here... > > > Right, > > If no one orders anything I'm gonna give up and kill myself...cough! > > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/videos.html > > All pre-Christmas orders despatched within 2 days > > Best Wishes, > > Judge Trev > From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Thu Dec 15 05:10:11 2005 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:10:11 -0000 Subject: Off - Funeral date Message-ID: >Trudge Trev said: > Right, > > If no one orders anything I'm gonna give up and kill myself...cough! [snip] > Judge Trev May i recommend sorting out your funeral dates etc before you do it - otherwise you won't be able to post the details. Hope this helps Maxine p.s. >erm... it's all part of our new "advanced marketing strategies" programme It's bordering on SPAM but definately canvassing! From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Dec 15 10:05:45 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:05:45 -0000 Subject: Off - Funeral date Message-ID: You are all cordially invited to attend the funeral of Trudge Trev - 25th Dec - venue - to be announced, Tickets ?25/?20 (ub40) (in advance only) send cheques,IMO's,PO's (or hidden cash) to: REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, Chat, Healers ..cough...wheeze...splutter...parp...palpitate... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxine Wesley" To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: Off - Funeral date > >Trudge Trev said: >> Right, >> >> If no one orders anything I'm gonna give up and kill myself...cough! > [snip] >> Judge Trev > > May i recommend sorting out your funeral dates etc before you do it - > otherwise you won't be able to post the details. > > Hope this helps > > Maxine > p.s. > >>erm... it's all part of our new "advanced marketing strategies" programme > > It's bordering on SPAM but definately canvassing! > From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Thu Dec 15 12:51:41 2005 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (Hawkfan) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:51:41 -0000 Subject: Off - Funeral date In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What music are you going to be carried in to? Death Trap? Time We Left This World Today? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of trev Sent: 15 December 2005 15:06 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Off - Funeral date You are all cordially invited to attend the funeral of Trudge Trev - 25th Dec - venue - to be announced, Tickets ?25/?20 (ub40) (in advance only) send cheques,IMO's,PO's (or hidden cash) to: REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, Chat, Healers ..cough...wheeze...splutter...parp...palpitate... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxine Wesley" To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: Off - Funeral date > >Trudge Trev said: >> Right, >> >> If no one orders anything I'm gonna give up and kill myself...cough! > [snip] >> Judge Trev > > May i recommend sorting out your funeral dates etc before you do it - > otherwise you won't be able to post the details. > > Hope this helps > > Maxine > p.s. > >>erm... it's all part of our new "advanced marketing strategies" programme > > It's bordering on SPAM but definately canvassing! > From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Dec 15 17:54:19 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:54:19 -0000 Subject: Off - Funeral date Message-ID: the poll bearers will be goose stepping to "skinheads in leningrad" as will nik, leading the throng, looking resplendant in his new "suit of many peni" (skinheads in leningrad is, by the way, available on the "maximum effect" album here: http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk/music.html#icu ) trev AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS TO MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR http://www.judgetrev.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hawkfan" To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: Re: Off - Funeral date > What music are you going to be carried in to? Death Trap? Time We Left > This > World Today? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of trev > Sent: 15 December 2005 15:06 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: Off - Funeral date > > > You are all cordially invited to attend the funeral of Trudge Trev - 25th > Dec - venue - to be announced, > Tickets ?25/?20 (ub40) (in advance only) send cheques,IMO's,PO's (or > hidden > cash) to: > REAL FESTIVAL MUSIC - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > Festival Listings, Festival Reviews, CDs, Video Downloads, News, Forum, > Chat, Healers > ..cough...wheeze...splutter...parp...palpitate... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maxine Wesley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:10 AM > Subject: Off - Funeral date > > >> >Trudge Trev said: >>> Right, >>> >>> If no one orders anything I'm gonna give up and kill myself...cough! >> [snip] >>> Judge Trev >> >> May i recommend sorting out your funeral dates etc before you do it - >> otherwise you won't be able to post the details. >> >> Hope this helps >> >> Maxine >> p.s. >> >>>erm... it's all part of our new "advanced marketing strategies" programme >> >> It's bordering on SPAM but definately canvassing! >> > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Dec 16 06:40:21 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:40:21 +0000 Subject: OFF: Not even Turner would wear this In-Reply-To: <200512121602.jBCG2LBl003734@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 04:02:21PM +0000, M Holmes typed out: > > > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 > I have to admit it is quite striking though. Maybe if they could all be > lit in different colours it'd acquire that xmassy look... I think that would just make a phallusy of the whole celebration. Perhaps more suitable for the Feast of the Circumcision? Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Dec 16 06:58:47 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:58:47 +0000 Subject: OFF: Not even Turner would wear this In-Reply-To: <20051216114020.GF15006@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: hi , must admit this is one of the funniest things I've seen for a while, I have printed out a few copies and sent out as Yule tide cards to a select few of my friends hahahahah From chrisow at SHAW.CA Fri Dec 16 18:35:45 2005 From: chrisow at SHAW.CA (Jade man) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:35:45 -0500 Subject: Space Ritual efforts Message-ID: Hi all, For the past 6 months and actually much longer I have been devoting my efforts to creating a tribute to the loose, heavy, spacey sound of Space Ritual. Its all recorded live and no post mixing. I wondered if anyone had any comments/advice/feedback to offer? Anyway here is the page link: http://www.maztekstil.com/wind.htm The MP3 is about 22MB (I didnt want to break it up into individual tracks) Songs include: The Mind Journey Quark, Strangeness and Charm The Awakening Lord of Light (probably best part!) Moonglum Master of the Universe Welcome to the Future Louder the better but careful with the bass!!! All best and seasons greetings! Chris Owen Vancouver BC From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Dec 17 12:06:48 2005 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:06:48 +0000 Subject: HW Solctice Daze In-Reply-To: <43A2ABF7.5020903@aol.com> Message-ID: Great show at Manchester last night - good to hear some oldies that haven't been played for while and the light show was excellent - I liked the way the projections and lights interacted with the dancer's costumes - I don't know if that was intentional but it looked reallly good. Sadly I can't make the Astoria, but if last night is anything to go by anyone going is in for a great night! Mick ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Dec 17 19:27:19 2005 From: davelaw at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Dave Law) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:27:19 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know the set list!) Message-ID: Hi all just a quick point of clarification that the band have requested that i make. it's no secret what set list the band are playing on this current bunch of dates and you'll notice that the Right to decide songs are very well represented, especially the 4 finalists. the simple fact was that the final result was so close it could literally have gone one of four ways, the final percentages were Lord Of Light - 28% Psi Power - 25% Upside Down - 24% 7x7 - 23% If you'd have asked me a week ago I'd have said Lord Of Light Would have won it by a mile but as more and more new voters came on board the songs lead diminished and in the final week was knocked off the top spot more than once. I was in constant touch with the band in the final week of voting, updating them on the poll and we realised that this was far from a forgone conclusion and in lieu of this and as a special gesture to you, the fans, Hawkwind decided that all 4 finalists would get an airing. over the course of voting we had 1000's of votes but the fact is that these 4 songs performed well week in week out and i for one think this is the best outcome possible. thanks for reading, I'll be at Dudley and London next week and hope to meet up with plenty of you folks. till then, take care regards Dave From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Dec 17 22:18:21 2005 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:18:21 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know the set list!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 19:27 -0500, Dave Law wrote: > I was in constant touch with the band in the final week of voting, updating > them on the poll and we realised that this was far from a forgone conclusion > and in lieu of this and as a special gesture to you, the fans, Hawkwind > decided that all 4 finalists would get an airing. Hey, that sounds like a great idea! >;-) Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Dec 18 04:10:52 2005 From: Sam.Kirwan at NTLWORLD.COM (Sam Kirwan) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:10:52 -0000 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know the set list!) Message-ID: PSYPOWER - seems like so long since I've heard it live (probably isn't but there we go) - NOW I'm excited - knew the subliminal messages were right.......... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Law" To: Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:27 AM Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know the set list!) > Hi all > > just a quick point of clarification that the band have requested that i > make. > > it's no secret what set list the band are playing on this current bunch of > dates and you'll notice that the Right to decide songs are very well > represented, especially the 4 finalists. > > the simple fact was that the final result was so close it could literally > have gone one of four ways, the final percentages were > > Lord Of Light - 28% > Psi Power - 25% > Upside Down - 24% > 7x7 - 23% > > If you'd have asked me a week ago I'd have said Lord Of Light Would have > won > it by a mile but as more and more new voters came on board the songs lead > diminished and in the final week was knocked off the top spot more than > once. > > I was in constant touch with the band in the final week of voting, > updating > them on the poll and we realised that this was far from a forgone > conclusion > and in lieu of this and as a special gesture to you, the fans, Hawkwind > decided that all 4 finalists would get an airing. > > over the course of voting we had 1000's of votes but the fact is that > these > 4 songs performed well week in week out and i for one think this is the > best > outcome possible. > > thanks for reading, I'll be at Dudley and London next week and hope to > meet > up with plenty of you folks. > > till then, take care > > regards > > Dave > From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Sun Dec 18 11:15:14 2005 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:15:14 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know the set list!) Message-ID: I'm hyped about hearing Psi Power as well.... I think the last time it was aired was in 1992. Ideally, we'd hear it with Huw guesting on lead guitar! John Majka > PSYPOWER - seems like so long since I've heard it live (probably isn't but > there we go) - NOW I'm excited - knew the subliminal messages were > right.......... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Law" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:27 AM > Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know > the set list!) > > >> Hi all >> >> just a quick point of clarification that the band have requested that i >> make. >> >> it's no secret what set list the band are playing on this current bunch >> of >> dates and you'll notice that the Right to decide songs are very well >> represented, especially the 4 finalists. >> >> the simple fact was that the final result was so close it could literally >> have gone one of four ways, the final percentages were >> >> Lord Of Light - 28% >> Psi Power - 25% >> Upside Down - 24% >> 7x7 - 23% >> >> If you'd have asked me a week ago I'd have said Lord Of Light Would have >> won >> it by a mile but as more and more new voters came on board the songs lead >> diminished and in the final week was knocked off the top spot more than >> once. >> >> I was in constant touch with the band in the final week of voting, >> updating >> them on the poll and we realised that this was far from a forgone >> conclusion >> and in lieu of this and as a special gesture to you, the fans, Hawkwind >> decided that all 4 finalists would get an airing. >> >> over the course of voting we had 1000's of votes but the fact is that >> these >> 4 songs performed well week in week out and i for one think this is the >> best >> outcome possible. >> >> thanks for reading, I'll be at Dudley and London next week and hope to >> meet >> up with plenty of you folks. >> >> till then, take care >> >> regards >> >> Dave >> From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Dec 18 13:09:54 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 13:09:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Stoner/Heavy Rock Radio show + Mail Order Goodies Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com December 18, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS + MAIL ORDER GOODIES We've just uploaded new shows from The Atomic Bongload (show #17), and The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #41). See the playlists below. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html NEW TO MAIL ORDER STORE: In the past week or so I?ve received the new Trigon CD, ?Emergent?. Trigon is an excellent German instrumental hard rock/psych/prog trio. I?ve also got a few new titles from Transubstans, including reissues of the first two albums from Swedish heavy rockers, Abramis Brama, as well as the debut CD by Drahk von Trip. Get all the details at http://www.aural-innovations.com/store/. And keep your eyes peeled to the store because I?ve got a new order coming in from Nasoni Records, including the new DARXTAR CD!! The Atomic Bongload (show #17) The Atomic Bongload was created to give an audio spotlight to the Stoner Rock and general HEAVY music we receive at Aural Innovations. Abramis Brama ? ?Motalaboogie? (from Dansa Tokj?velns Vals) Abramis Brama ? ?100 Dagar? (from N?r Tystnaden Lagt Sig ) Blood of the Sun ? ?Kill the Swan? (from Blood of the Sun) Drunken Gunmen ? ?Centre People? (from Beyond the Green Sun) Whoremoan ? ?Capri? (From Youth Must Dare) Where The Moon Came From ? ?We Dove Into The Sunrise? (from Twin of Pangaea) Samavayo ? ?Let? m? c? (from Death March Melodies!) American Dog ? ?Too Damn Sober? (from Foamin? at the Mouth Live) The Defilers ? ?7 Thunders? (from Metal Mountains) Svarte Pan ? ?D?rarnas Palats? (from Nattvandring) Siena Root ? ?Mountain I? (from Mountain Songs 7?) Aural Innovations Christmas Greeting The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #41) The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown was created to give an audio spotlight to the exciting improvisational, experimental, and general avant-garde rock & jazz we receive in the Aural Innovations mailbox. Dan Clucas/Immediately ? ?You Say (for Bobby Bradford)? (from Exile) Steuart Liebig/Stigtette ? ?Render? (from Delta) Dave Fox ? ?Dedication #1: Harmonious Prelude? (From Dedication Suite) Damian Catera with Cecilia Biagini ? ?Timescale in Sound? (from Closed Circuits) The Dust Dive ? ?Postcards of Real Worlds? (from Radio Action II) Skyline ? ?Jenkins Clandestine? (from Private Sectors (noiseotica v.3) Philip Gayle ? ?The Payphone? (from The Mommy Row) Unstable Ensemble ? ?Better Up North? (from Embers) Baczkowsi-Corsano-Flaherty ? ?No Boat Will Ever Come? (excerpt) (from The Dim Bulb) The Drift ? ?Hearts Are Flowers? (from Noumena) Davenport ? ?Candlefas? (From Rabbit?s Foot Propeller) Baggerboot ? ?Cascasde II? (from Baggerboot) http://Aural-Innovations.com From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Dec 18 11:37:21 2005 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:37:21 +0100 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know the set list!) In-Reply-To: <000a01c603ee$3afe6c50$0202a8c0@MAJKA> Message-ID: Hi John They played PSI POWER the last time in Brixton (Hawkwestra) 21.10.2000. It was also played in 1995/96 Cheers Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of John Majka Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:15 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know the set list!) I'm hyped about hearing Psi Power as well.... I think the last time it was aired was in 1992. Ideally, we'd hear it with Huw guesting on lead guitar! John Majka > PSYPOWER - seems like so long since I've heard it live (probably isn't > but there we go) - NOW I'm excited - knew the subliminal messages were > right.......... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Law" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:27 AM > Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to > know the set list!) > > >> Hi all >> >> just a quick point of clarification that the band have requested that >> i make. >> >> it's no secret what set list the band are playing on this current >> bunch of dates and you'll notice that the Right to decide songs are >> very well represented, especially the 4 finalists. >> >> the simple fact was that the final result was so close it could >> literally have gone one of four ways, the final percentages were >> >> Lord Of Light - 28% >> Psi Power - 25% >> Upside Down - 24% >> 7x7 - 23% >> >> If you'd have asked me a week ago I'd have said Lord Of Light Would >> have won it by a mile but as more and more new voters came on board >> the songs lead diminished and in the final week was knocked off the >> top spot more than once. >> >> I was in constant touch with the band in the final week of voting, >> updating them on the poll and we realised that this was far from a >> forgone conclusion and in lieu of this and as a special gesture to >> you, the fans, Hawkwind decided that all 4 finalists would get an >> airing. >> >> over the course of voting we had 1000's of votes but the fact is that >> these >> 4 songs performed well week in week out and i for one think this is >> the best outcome possible. >> >> thanks for reading, I'll be at Dudley and London next week and hope >> to meet up with plenty of you folks. >> >> till then, take care >> >> regards >> >> Dave >> From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Dec 18 15:56:27 2005 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:56:27 +0000 Subject: HW: OFF - Mike Holmes on TV In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anyone just see Mike on Channel 4's Demolition program, talking about the Scottish Parliament building? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16/12/2005 From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Dec 18 18:56:02 2005 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:56:02 EST Subject: OT: Keith Henderson... Message-ID: Keith, could you contact me off list please. I've cleared out all my old emails and lost yours in the process. Cheers, Steve. From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Dec 18 19:15:13 2005 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 00:15:13 -0000 Subject: OFF - Mike Holmes on TV Message-ID: Really?! I was watching that but don't remember seeing him. I must have blinked or dozed off or something! I remember they decided it wasn't eligible for demolition - which is good since I quite like it - it's irritating but interesting even though I must agree with the description someone recently gave it - "Bauhaus with Bling". It is! jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Taylor" To: Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: HW: OFF - Mike Holmes on TV > Anyone just see Mike on Channel 4's Demolition program, talking > about > the Scottish Parliament building? > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: > 16/12/2005 > > From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Dec 19 03:32:35 2005 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:32:35 +0000 Subject: OFF - Mike Holmes on TV In-Reply-To: <000c01c60431$49685240$6565a8c0@sherlock> Message-ID: Er, I'm sure it was Mike.... Couldn't actually tell you what he said. I was too busy pointing at the TV saying 'I know him!'. Yeah, hopefully the building will grow to be liked better. It looks really good inside. Jill Strobridge wrote: > Really?! I was watching that but don't remember seeing him. I > must have blinked or dozed off or something! I remember they > decided it wasn't eligible for demolition - which is good since I > quite like it - it's irritating but interesting even though I must > agree with the description someone recently gave it - "Bauhaus with > Bling". It is! > > jill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Taylor" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:56 PM > Subject: HW: OFF - Mike Holmes on TV > > >> Anyone just see Mike on Channel 4's Demolition program, talking >> about >> the Scottish Parliament building? >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: >> 16/12/2005 >> >> > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16/12/2005 From cea at CARLAZ.COM Mon Dec 19 04:31:33 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:31:33 +0000 Subject: [Hawkwind] Right To Decide (don't read if you don't want to know the set list!) In-Reply-To: <000a01c603ee$3afe6c50$0202a8c0@MAJKA> Message-ID: Upside Down! Upside Down!! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 19 09:17:13 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:17:13 GMT Subject: OFF: Not even Turner would wear this In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:40:21 +0000 Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett writes: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 04:02:21PM +0000, M Holmes typed out: > > > > http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1632 > > I have to admit it is quite striking though. Maybe if they could all be > > lit in different colours it'd acquire that xmassy look... > I think that would just make a phallusy of the whole celebration. > Perhaps more suitable for the Feast of the Circumcision? Yours, He's probably already in great demand at the Panto. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 19 09:27:42 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:27:42 GMT Subject: HW: OFF - Mike Holmes on TV In-Reply-To: Alan Taylor's message of Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:56:27 +0000 Message-ID: Alan Taylor writes: > Anyone just see Mike on Channel 4's Demolition program, talking about > the Scottish Parliament building? Bastards. I made it very clear that I was against the building because of the cost overrun (435 million instead of the quoted 39 million) and all the lying about it by the politicians and their evil minions, rather than anything particularly about the architecture. I asked that if the used anything, to quote me as saying "Knock it down and give them a cowshed and deckchairs: the more comfortable they are, the more often they'll meet, and the worse off we'll all become." Instead they quote an offhand line about how it looks like a Hall of Residence. To cap it all they have some wanker saying how democracy is all very well, but if the voters get it wrong, the results are best left to "experts". So basically the whole program is about one guy's wank fantasy about knocking down buildings he doesn't like, and to cover this up they have a sham vote to pretend that the public will get a say. For this I've used up another two an a half seconds of my fifteen minutes. Media folks: Pah. They're as bad as politicians. I should have known better than to get involved with 'em. FoFP From iainferguson at AOL.COM Mon Dec 19 10:03:50 2005 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:03:50 +0000 Subject: HW: OFF - Mike Holmes on TV In-Reply-To: <200512191427.jBJERgMB001793@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike, Deep Sympathies for the terrible misquoting.. Tell who's is the dream , is it Kevin McClouds or George Fergusons, I'd love to hear it being george.... Ohhh yes.. hey and does george wear his red trousers , he always seems to while he walks round bristol , buying property and making fricking eyesores.... iain ferguson M Holmes wrote on 19/12/2005, 14:27: > Alan Taylor writes: > > > Anyone just see Mike on Channel 4's Demolition program, talking about > > the Scottish Parliament building? > > Bastards. I made it very clear that I was against the building because of > the cost overrun (435 million instead of the quoted 39 million) and > all the lying about it by the politicians and their evil minions, rather > than anything particularly about the architecture. I asked that if the > used anything, to quote me as saying "Knock it down and give them a > cowshed and deckchairs: the more comfortable they are, the more often > they'll meet, and the worse off we'll all become." > > Instead they quote an offhand line about how it looks like a Hall of > Residence. To cap it all they have some wanker saying how democracy is > all very well, but if the voters get it wrong, the results are best left > to "experts". So basically the whole program is about one guy's wank > fantasy about knocking down buildings he doesn't like, and to cover this > up they have a sham vote to pretend that the public will get a say. > > For this I've used up another two an a half seconds of my fifteen > minutes. > > Media folks: Pah. They're as bad as politicians. I should have known > better than to get involved with 'em. > > FoFP > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Dec 19 10:14:55 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:14:55 GMT Subject: HW: OFF - Mike Holmes on TV In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:03:50 +0000 Message-ID: Iain Ferguson writes: > Mike, > Deep Sympathies for the terrible misquoting.. Ach. I half expected it and it could have been worse. They did manage to make idiots of themselves in the end by gainsaying the Scottish public when they backed my nomination and voted in their thousands to have it blown up. > Tell who's is the dream , is it Kevin McClouds or George Fergusons, I'd > love to hear it being george.... Ohhh yes.. Looks like it's McCloud who's pushing this "X List" for buildings he doesn't like (they're all 1960's concrete buildings so it's not exactly a subtle aesthetic point he's trying to make). I dunno who the expert was who said that Scotland had it wrong and clearly if we were going to vote like this, they'd have to have experts to correct our nominations. Could that be Ferguson? He has a very coloured bow tie on? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Dec 20 06:21:08 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:21:08 GMT Subject: OFF: Demolition TV programme Message-ID: OK, it turns out that on Sunday night they clipped me in again with my cowshed quip, so I don't feel so annoyed with 'em, though they still apparently decided that us Scots still need experts to veto our opinions. However I'd like to see the clip, so did anyone get a recording of that show? FoFP From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 20 12:13:58 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:13:58 +0000 Subject: Weird Dream (slightly off) Message-ID: Just thought I'd share a very weird dream I had last night. Was in the middle of a fight involving the Daleks and the emperor made a speech. Word for word - Sonic Attack (along lines of Zones) with backing by the band!! I must have been looking forward to tomorrow night and got it confused with DVD I watched at the weekend. Come to think of it it would really make a great scene in the next series! Bring out the Hawkwlords ala Queens of Deleria to save the Earth. Steve From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 20 12:34:50 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:34:50 +0000 Subject: Astoria - record fair Message-ID: Hi all, Anyone planning on going to the spitlefields record fair tomorrow? I'll be there about 1. Steve From Tjackson at SYR.EDU Tue Dec 20 12:35:13 2005 From: Tjackson at SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:35:13 -0500 Subject: remasters... Message-ID: There is mention of Spectres and Some Senchanted... remasters on the B?C website, but it says late in '06 for a release date... theo From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Dec 20 13:15:28 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:15:28 -0600 Subject: Weird Dream (slightly off) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Steve Freight wrote: :Subject: Weird Dream (slightly off) :Just thought I'd share a very weird dream I had last night. : :Was in the middle of a fight involving the Daleks and the emperor made a :speech. : :Word for word - Sonic Attack (along lines of Zones) with backing by the :band!! : :I must have been looking forward to tomorrow night and got it confused with :DVD I watched at the weekend. : :Come to think of it it would really make a great scene in the next series! :Bring out the Hawkwlords ala Queens of Deleria to save the Earth. heh. I must admit that I hadn't thought of that one before. Now if only we could get HW to remix the Who theme and have them air that.... Enjoy the show tomorrow, all! I'm horribly jealous and want to see gig reports, so at least I can pretend that I was there this year ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Tue Dec 20 13:13:56 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:13:56 -0800 Subject: HW: TMTYL lyrics...Recent gigs In-Reply-To: <43A67023.2010908@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Folks... Now that I have some extra cheap internet time here in London, I can safely type in these lyrics without wasting a whole lot of dough. Many of the lyrics from TMTYL are included in the booklet, but not all. I've tried to transcribe as best as I could the lyrics to a few more tracks and I'll include them here and see what you all think, and hopefully you can fill in one or two of the blanks. I still haven't tried Sunray, which maybe isn't too hard, though I agree with the woman doing the DVD interview that Arthur ended up too low in the mix. Luckily, his voice has such a strong character to it that it still come through fairly well despite the levels. So here it goes... Digital Nation (Chadwick) I'm the major player in this wicked (god?) sin Late at night I type the crack and the program(me) let's me in I've met so many friends they're on this groovy secret level where it's fl(own?) artificial intelligence...heaven Go in there for days, man, there's always something new I control so many destinies, I know just what to do My harddrive is acquainted to the (intimated?) view All the sentient lifeforms in the journey are ?????? You start off with a map that shows the layout of the land Zoom in with a microscope to where the city stands Click upon the street plan and suddenly you're there Sh????? off collector's items, you've got creds to spare So I'm online in the tavern, as the evening drifts away I know everybody in there and what they're going to say So it comes as a surprise to me when she walks through the door Sits down at my table, lays a gun on the floor She asks me if I'll join her in her quest to save the world Restore the planet's harmony and maybe win the girl Crack the alien lizard man, who rules with iron hand Storm in their headquarters for a hero's last stand She hits me with her green-eyed pixelated piercing stare I saw whirling pools of history, fractal patterns there Endless possibilities of irony (?) equations Living here forever with the digital nation Repeat last two lines then... I'll stay here forever with the digital nation Take Me To Your Leader (Brock, Chadwick) Brock: Witness the electromagnetic chaos to totality As it reveals the semi-conscient (?) particles and ??????? in view (?) Observe...long weekends are past the stakes (or...pass the steaks?) :) Learn experiment with various forms and curious (1st time) convolutions (2nd time) combinations Perform an abstract act with an objective object And therby convey an abstract message in which there is no meaning Chadwick: We always move to the invisible beat A reality (abandoned?) at everybody's feet We're all (a)musing (?) the centers, chasing the bass As constant as the constellations wheeling in space Out in the forest wolves howl at the moon (for/from?) audio sound to which we all can attune Turtles lay their eggs, it's a cycling legacy (?) As the tides keep turning...endlessly Whirling and rolling like stones in the mountains Forests are blazing, blasted by lightning The smoke drifts away as the flames die down And already seeds force their way in through the ground ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There are also a few lyrics in Sighs, which are quite difficult to make out...the first two lines are barely audible behind the music... Sighs ??????????????????????????????????? (drowned out completely) ????????????????????????? our eyes (?) ??????????? at work on the street We must accept them to survive Machines are taking over our land, the sea, and the air We are controlled by (all the/other?) machines Technoland is everywhere OK, there you go...I don't know who's updating the lyric file, but if we can all agree how to fill these in, and if somebody can type in the other ones from the booklet (I swear (I may be crazy, but...) that there's a final stanza to Angela Android that Richard is singing live, but is not on the album and therefore missing from the lyrics...can somebody check the live version from either the single or the Astoria CD?) then we can add these to the lyric file. Haven't had to do much on this front lately, but we shouldn't let it slack now with finally a new studio album to enter in. There has been hardly any discussion of the new album here on boc-l, probably for the same reason that I have been rather ho-hum about it...which is...None of the songs are new (to those of us who have seen them live over a dozen times in the last two years, at least...which means that we should have heard something from the US contingent who haven't been lucky enough to have been there at the shows). Well, the title track TMTYL is one that I haven't heard live, so that one is new at least. And it's quite an interesting piece, perhaps one that wouldn't work live so well. If I remember the track well enough, it has a kind of post-rock character to it that I wouldn't have expected to hear from HW. It gives the album some more variety to it, along with the techno-ish bits, the (oft-quoted, almost ad nauseum, during the interviews) Jason-jazz piano influence (what do you think of that, DougP.?), and the two heavy tracks (GM and TLaM). GM is starting to finally grow on me a bit, and it's OK still being in the set now...it's really only very tiny bit of the song that I don't like (the sound of Alan's voice on the words at the end of each line of chorus...Rooo-ound, En-er-gee-eeeee, etc.) that spoil it for me...otherwise, it's a good tune, and the Classic Rock reviewer was right about it having 'balls.' Out Here We Are is fine on the album, and is acceptable in the new live set, but only because it's A. something from the new album, and B. adds some spacey synth bits to give the show the proper dynamics. Though it's too long and I don't like the fake trumpet keyboard bit (the lone criticism of Jason's playing that I have), especially since it's really loud for some reason on this tour. The set overall is really very very strong, and is full of classic tracks that I wouldn't have ever believed we would be hearing them play if you'd asked me a year or two ago. Psi Power is really great, heavy guitar and energy throughout, though it starts off very lazily and understated, so it doesn't kick in until the start of the first chorus...then it rocks the rest of the way and the crowd really gets into it. 7 x 7 is better than it was at the Donnington Off the Tracks festival, when Richard did the spoken word bits. Now Dibs is doing them, and he still isn't quite spot on, but I like it better...Richard's voice isn't just quite right for that part. However, his voice is great, esp. on Digital Nation (which sadly we're not hearing right now), but also in harmony with Dave on Paradox, which continues to get better each time we hear it. Lord of Light was the one I voted for all throught Dave Law's contest, 'cause I'd never heard it live apart from Hawkestra (I think), and one time in St. Catherines Ontario when they did it during the soundcheck on the tour with Ron ('95) IIRC. And it is really excellent, and here Dibsy is doing the vocals brilliantly...didn't realize he could sing so well in a lyrical style. The Upside Down bridge in the middle of Brainstorm is working just fine for me, though Dibsy isn't coming through quite as well here. I think they're doing it kinda fast (I'm sure it's slower on Space Ritual) and he's gotta keep up somehow. And it only goes on two minutes or so, so it's not really an entire track worth of material. But nice to hear regardless...kinda like Where are we now? A taste of something obscure but not entirely forgotten for a change. The new dancers (including the fairy girl from Hawkfest 2003 and Off the Tracks), along with another girl and a guy, are not quite as artistic and creative as the previous two dancers, but I give these three some credit for trying to come up with some routines and such. It was obvious to me at the previous events that they were just doing it as amateurs to have some fun and contribute to the show, and so they obviously felt the need to work up to something more for this minitour, and I'm glad that band got somebody to add to the visuals at least. Their Angela Android routine is OK, but as a group they're a little too 'organick' looking than the previous ones*, who did the android-like routines *really* expertly (whether for AA or SotA), as if they really lacked an emotion chip. The new crew are straight from the hippy festival mode and it's a stretch for them to be emotionless automatons. Still, at times, their colorful outfits in connection with the lighting (esp. the green lasers backshot from the stage over the audience) were visually effective. *I would use their real names here, but I don't know them...I was a little disappointed that they were not credited in the liner notes to TMTYL, since I thought that they made such a great contribution to all the shows of late 2003-summer 2005. (I don't know the names of the new dancers either, though the one fairy girl appears in a photo on the original release of the Hawkfest CD - back cover I think...I see there's a new version out with different cover...are the tracks the same? AndyG?) The new lightshow routines are really excellent though...Neil and Marie have programmed some brand new things and can trigger/manipulate them much more effectively than before, keeping them in synch with the music. I was impressed with the Psi Power routine, since they only had a few days to work it out (they had to wait for the contest to near conclusion to know what was going to be in the set). And the amazingly brilliant colored patterns during the intro piece (The Right Stuff) were really excellent, particularly at Birkenhead, which had a deep, narrow stage and high ceiling which allowed the projections to really appear extra bright. The Birkenhead gig was about perfect, cause the hall was a nice size, holding maybe about 800 or so max, with a crowd of something like 650 or so. Which was just enough to make a good atmosphere in the crowd, yet allow for one to easily get to and from the restrooms and bar during the show without having to stuggle to regain a good place. The PA was a bit small, and the hall slighly echo-y because of its barn-like shape, but since you could easily get to the front near the speakers, it was loud enough and punchy enough for me there. The Manchester club was quite similar in size and dimension...slightly larger, with a much bigger PA, so it was definitely loud enough everywhere inside. The place maybe held 1000 comfortably, and it was very nearly packed full, maybe 900, so it took some creativity to get in and out during the set. (Sneaking across the back over to the left side was the trick! Getting forward from there was ten times easier.) The crowd at both took some time to really get into the gigs, but from SotA onwards, the set really cooks and the people are into it 100%. Lots of energy from Dave and Alan, plenty of guitar work, including lots of soloing from Dave (up front in view), so those old arguments here about not enough Dave can be forgotten now...I think we could've used a little more Richard this time (Digital Nation for instance) and (gasp!) perhaps just a very slight little bit less of Dave. :) For trivia buffs...he's using his Warrior-painted guitar as backup to his other multi-coloured custom job (the usual) on this tour, and at Manchester, he broke a string or something near the end, and ended up playing two songs (or Brainstorm/Upside Down at least) with the Warrior guitar...first time I've actually seen that guitar I think. ? Dumpy was guesting on Brainstorm at Birkenhead as usual, but never seemed to get his guitar and amp plugged in right, and I don't even think I could hear him most of the time. Then at Manchester, he'd already done his solo act as warm-up, and for whatever reason (perhaps related to the equipment problems from the previous night, I dunno?) he didn't come out to guest at all I don't think. Well, I'm here in London awaiting the final show tomorrow, having skipped out on the Dudley one tonight since two shows in a row often burns me out too much. See you all at the Angel tomorrow! 61 St. Giles High just east of the Astoria about a block or two. Grakkl __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Dec 20 13:24:44 2005 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:24:44 -0500 Subject: remasters... Message-ID: Theo wrote: > There is mention of Spectres and Some Senchanted... > remasters on the B?C website, but it says late in > '06 for a release date... Guess I'm starting my Christmas list early for next year! Brian obCD> Christmas Party with Eddie G From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Dec 20 13:49:35 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:49:35 -0600 Subject: HW: TMTYL lyrics...Recent gigs In-Reply-To: <20051220181356.2938.qmail@web35405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Keith Henderson wrote: :Subject: HW: TMTYL lyrics...Recent gigs : So what's on the setlist for the gigs, then? Keith, do you recall? Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Tue Dec 20 14:32:40 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:32:40 -0800 Subject: HW: TMTYL lyrics...Recent gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >So what's on the setlist for the gigs, then? Keith, do you recall? This is going to be really rough, but something like... The Right Stuff (nice long version) Sword of the East (with techno middle part) Greenback Massacre Out Here We Are Seven By Seven Spirit of the Age Angela Android Lord of Light Paradox Psi Power Assassins of Allah/ Palestine/ Assassins of Allah (reprise) Brainstorm/ Upside Down/ Brainstorm (reprise) ------------------------- Psychedelic Warlords Brainbox Pollution what am I missing? Anything? I know the order isn't right, but it may be fairly close. Grakkl __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From murray.ewing at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Dec 20 14:56:24 2005 From: murray.ewing at BTINTERNET.COM (Murray Ewing) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:56:24 +0000 Subject: HW: TMTYL lyrics...Recent gigs In-Reply-To: <20051220181356.2938.qmail@web35405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here are some suggestions ? not sure how correct they are! On 20 Dec 2005, at 18:13, Keith Henderson wrote: > I'm the major player in this wicked (god?) sin I'm the major player in this wicked god sim (as in god simulator, type of game) > Late at night I type the crack and the program(me) let's me in > I've met so many friends they're on this groovy secret level > where it's fl(own?) artificial intelligence...heaven where it's full-on artificial intelligence heaven > > Go in there for days, man, there's always something new > I control so many destinies, I know just what to do > My harddrive is acquainted to the (intimated?) view My harddrive is acquainted to an infinite degree (?) > All the sentient lifeforms in the journey are ?????? .... (ends in "reality" I think?) > > You start off with a map that shows the layout of the land > Zoom in with a microscope to where the city stands > Click upon the street plan and suddenly you're there > Sh????? off collector's items, you've got creds to spare (?) Chock full of collector's items... or Shops full of collector's items...? > > So I'm online in the tavern, as the evening drifts away > I know everybody in there and what they're going to say > So it comes as a surprise to me when she walks through the door > Sits down at my table, lays a gun on the floor > > She asks me if I'll join her in her quest to save the world > Restore the planet's harmony and maybe win the girl > Crack the alien lizard man, who rules with iron hand > Storm in their headquarters for a hero's last stand > > She hits me with her green-eyed pixelated piercing stare > I saw whirling pools of history, fractal patterns there > Endless possibilities of irony (?) equations Endless possibilities of binary equations > Living here forever with the digital nation This is a great song, and has really grown on me! Murray http://www.mjewing.co.uk/ Getting more out of GarageBand: http://www.mjewing.co.uk/gmoogb/ Spacewreck: http://www.mjewing.co.uk/spacewreck/ From alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Dec 20 14:52:24 2005 From: alan.taylor96 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Alan Taylor) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:52:24 +0000 Subject: HW: TMTYL lyrics...Recent gigs In-Reply-To: <20051220181356.2938.qmail@web35405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Keith, Pretty good go at the Digital Nation ones. Hey, I haven't counted but they must be 95% correct. The lyrics for Digital Nation actually ended up in the booklet for the Dark Peak label digipak issue so with a few little tweaks, they are: (p.s the lyrics for TMTYL or Sighs aren't in the booklet, but Sunray ones are) I'm the major player in this wicked God sim Late at night I type the crack and the programme lets me in I've met so many friends there on this groovy secret level where it's full on artificial intelligence heaven I go in there for days man there's always something new I control so many destinies I know just what to do My harddrive is acquainted to an intimate degree with all the sentient lifeforms in virtual reality You start off with a map that shows the layout of the land Zoom in with a microscope to where the city stands Click upon the street plan and suddenly your (sic) there Shops full of collector's items you've got creds to spare So I'm online in the tavern, as the evening drifts away I know everybody in there I know what they're going to say So it comes as a surprise to me when she walks through the door Sits down at my table lays her gun upon the floor She asks me if I'll join her in her quest to save the world Restore the planet's harmony and maybe win the girl We'd frag the alien lizard man who rules with iron hand Storming their headquarters for a hero's last stand She fixed me with her green-eyed pixelated piercing stare I saw whirling pools of mystery and fractal patterns there Endless possibilities of binary equations Living here forever with the digital nation Keith Henderson wrote: >Hi Folks... > > Now that I have some extra cheap internet time here in London, I can safely type in these lyrics without wasting a whole lot of dough. > > Many of the lyrics from TMTYL are included in the booklet, but not all. I've tried to transcribe as best as I could the lyrics to a few more tracks and I'll include them here and see what you all think, and hopefully you can fill in one or two of the blanks. I still haven't tried Sunray, which maybe isn't too hard, though I agree with the woman doing the DVD interview that Arthur ended up too low in the mix. Luckily, his voice has such a strong character to it that it still come through fairly well despite the levels. > > So here it goes... > > Digital Nation (Chadwick) > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.2/208 - Release Date: 20/12/2005 From tim at KALYR.COM Tue Dec 20 14:43:00 2005 From: tim at KALYR.COM (Tim Hall) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:43:00 +0000 Subject: remasters... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: > There is mention of Spectres and Some Senchanted... > remasters on the B?C website, but it says late in > '06 for a release date... Two I'm very much looking forward to. IMO Spectres has the worse sound of any B?C release, which I hope the remaster can improve on. Anyone know what bonus material will appear on SEE? Presumably the whole set from the tour must have been recorded, and there must be decent takes of the other songs. What else was in the setlist in those days? -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Dec 20 15:55:16 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:55:16 GMT Subject: Astoria - record fair In-Reply-To: Steve Freight's message of Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:34:50 +0000 Message-ID: Steve Freight writes: > Hi all, > > Anyone planning on going to the spitlefields record fair tomorrow? How to gget there? FoFP From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Tue Dec 20 16:17:24 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:17:24 -0000 Subject: remasters... In-Reply-To: <43A85EC4.7070008@kalyr.com> Message-ID: Tim wrote: <> There are a number of audience recordings from the 1978 tour in circulation. The folks over on BOCFANS.COM will be happy to trade with you. If you have SEE, then you may know the mildly interesting story about the different versions of "We've Gotta Get Outta This Place". The sleeve says the track was recorded in Newcastle (home of Eric Burdon and the Animals and therefore very apt!). However, somewhere between the soundboard and the mixing of the album two shows got mixed up and the version on the release was from Glasgow (not the home of Eric Burdon and therefore not so apt). When SEE was then reissued on CD, it had the right track on it, finally after years. <<...and there must be decent takes of the other songs. What else was in the setlist in those days?>> The setlists, then like now, change most nights. Have a look at www.hotrails.co.uk for details of the setlists for the 1978 tour http://www.hotrails.co.uk/giglopaedia/1978_setlists.htm#780303 My first BOC gig was Hammersmith Odeon 4 May 1978. And do you really think Spectres sounds muddy? What about OYFOOYK? Or Blue Oyster Cult? Muddy but genius! Tony -- Tim http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Tue Dec 20 17:03:00 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:03:00 +0000 Subject: Astoria - record fair In-Reply-To: <200512202055.jBKKtGsu022997@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Mike, Top right hand corner. liverpool street is nearest. Steve On 12/20/05, M Holmes wrote: > > Steve Freight writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > Anyone planning on going to the spitlefields record fair tomorrow? > > How to gget there? > > FoFP > From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Dec 20 19:00:26 2005 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:00:26 -0500 Subject: HW: TMTYL lyrics...Recent gigs Message-ID: Just to set the record straight: :-} DIGITAL NATION I?m the major player in this wicked god sim Late at night I type the crack and the programme lets me in I?ve met so many friends there on this groovy secret level Where it?s full on artificial intelligence heaven I go in there for days man, there?s always something new I control so many destinies; I know just what to do. My hard-drive is acquainted to an intimate degree With all the sentient life forms in virtual reality You start off with a map that shows the layout of the land. Zoom in with a microscope to where the city stands, Click upon the street plan, and suddenly you?re there- Shops full of collector?s items and you?ve got creds to spare. So I?m online in the tavern as the evening drifts away I know everybody in there, I know what they?re going to say So it comes as a surprise to me when she walks through the door Sits down at my table and lays her gun upon the floor. She asked me if I?d join her in her quest to save the world Restore the planet?s harmony and maybe win the girl. We?d frag the alien lizard men, who ruled with iron hand Storming their headquarters for a hero?s last stand She fixed me with her green eyed pixelated, piercing stare And I saw whirling pools of mystery, fractal patterns there Endless possibilities of binary equations Living here forever with the digital nation. TO LOVE A MACHINE Unyielding form to such a fiery embrace To love a machine with a human face She bruised her lips with kisses on silicon cheeks But to love a machine is that what you really seek Her frenzied body pushed against metallic soul It?s no use hiding what you can?t control She pleaded for relief but only got a handful of wires Love a machine is that what you really desire Chorus But to love a machine is not common-place ANGELA ANDROID Angela Android c?mon and be my babe I?m feeling horny and I want to get laid. You?ve got mechanical love in your eyes, Skin, fur or feathers baby what a surprise. Tentacles of ecstasy inside of my mind, Burning up my body, my libido unwinds, She?s a fire moon winter girl, a digital dream. I?m falling in love with my lady machine. Me and my simulation never get uptight, We get it on almost every night, We?re just like dogs going after a bone, I love it when I hear my machine moan. The crew are cryogenically sealed in the ?Ark? Sometimes we like to screw amongst them just for a laugh, Star baby love guns going off on our bed, We?re so alive and they?re all nearly dead. They said it would be cold and lonely here in space, So I practice meditation and achieve a higher place, Kundalini yoga is the only way in, I slip it to the android and she starts to sing. Watch particles vibrating on their different frequencies, Emotion is a paradigm that grows empirically. A fabulous new learning curve for machine and man together, Drifting in the bio-starfields, making love forever. From dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM Tue Dec 20 20:02:08 2005 From: dahl at WIRELESSBEEHIVE.COM (Brad Dahl) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:02:08 -0700 Subject: remasters... In-Reply-To: <43A85EC4.7070008@kalyr.com> Message-ID: >> There is mention of Spectres and Some Senchanted... >> remasters on the B?C website, but it says late in >> '06 for a release date... I'd buy those, like right now. > Anyone know what bonus material will appear on SEE? Presumably the > whole set from the tour must have been recorded, and there must be > decent takes of the other songs. What else was in the setlist in those > days? One of my favorites from the Spectres tour was Nosferatu. Golden Age of Leather would be nice as well. The other song on my dream list is an awesome live version of Stairway to the Stars (from the Al days). Brad OH! Going Through the Motions. Just kidding. From tony.orourke at TALK21.COM Wed Dec 21 03:18:04 2005 From: tony.orourke at TALK21.COM (Tony) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:18:04 -0000 Subject: remasters... In-Reply-To: <20051220180208.1h4yvlzxcg8wk0gw@mail.wirelessbeehive.com> Message-ID: There's a blistering version of "Stairway To The Stars" on the Live In The West bootleg from July 1975. Some of the tracks made it onto the Tyranny and Mutation re-master (Od'd, Dizbusters). Let's hope that some of the others (Flaming Telepaths, Astronomy) make it onto any OYFOOYK reissue. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Brad Dahl Sent: 21 December 2005 01:02 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: remasters... >> There is mention of Spectres and Some Senchanted... >> remasters on the B?C website, but it says late in >> '06 for a release date... I'd buy those, like right now. > Anyone know what bonus material will appear on SEE? Presumably the > whole set from the tour must have been recorded, and there must be > decent takes of the other songs. What else was in the setlist in those > days? One of my favorites from the Spectres tour was Nosferatu. Golden Age of Leather would be nice as well. The other song on my dream list is an awesome live version of Stairway to the Stars (from the Al days). Brad OH! Going Through the Motions. Just kidding. From Tjackson at SYR.EDU Wed Dec 21 07:23:40 2005 From: Tjackson at SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:23:40 -0500 Subject: remasters... Message-ID: >>> tim at KALYR.COM 12/20/2005 2:43 PM >>> Two I'm very much looking forward to. IMO Spectres has the worse sound of any B?C release, which I hope the remaster can improve on. Yes, and all the more frustrating given there'e some great material on that disc... Anyone know what bonus material will appear on SEE? Presumably the whole set from the tour must have been recorded, and there must be decent takes of the other songs. What else was in the setlist in those days? Well, GAoL was done on that tour! RuRtR became their opener for a while. I think GTtM was done a few times live. Then there are a few covers they played those days. I also wouldn't mind hearing some studio stuff that didn't make an album, although I don't think there's too much of that leftover... tj From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Wed Dec 21 08:54:58 2005 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:54:58 -0000 Subject: ATT: Mike Holmes Message-ID: Apologies for personal message Message for Mike Holmes on behalf for Steve: Train delayed and will be very late to our meeting but I am on my way.. Steve PXR5 From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Dec 21 17:06:55 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:06:55 -0600 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review Message-ID: OK, for those of you who went.....gig review of tonight's gig, please? I dearly wish that we could go tonight...but instead, had to hie off to get Rich fingerprinted *again*. Sigh. More fun with Homeland Security. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/NBS University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From MICKYMOOCHER at AOL.COM Thu Dec 22 03:22:54 2005 From: MICKYMOOCHER at AOL.COM (Mick Davis) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 03:22:54 EST Subject: HW: Astoria gig review Message-ID: In a message dated 22/12/2005 00:09:04 GTB Standard Time, akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU writes: get Rich fingerprinted *again*. Sigh. More fun with Homeland Security. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu one- word- awesome!!!!!!!! From steve.bishop at DB.COM Thu Dec 22 03:29:45 2005 From: steve.bishop at DB.COM (Steve Bishop) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:29:45 +0000 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: <1f3.18b42cc3.30dbbc5e@aol.com> Message-ID: I'll second that - great gig, the band really looked to be enjoying themselves too ! Highlights for me - Paradox and Psychedlic Warlords but it was all brilliant ! I sincerely hope this was recorded for release at some point ....... Mick Davis Sent by: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List To BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET 22/12/2005 08:22 cc Subject Please respond to Re: HW: Astoria gig review BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List In a message dated 22/12/2005 00:09:04 GTB Standard Time, akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU writes: get Rich fingerprinted *again*. Sigh. More fun with Homeland Security. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu one- word- awesome!!!!!!!! --- This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Thu Dec 22 06:29:36 2005 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:29:36 EST Subject: HW: Astoria gig review Message-ID: I'll agree, absolutely bloody brilliant. 7x7, Upside Down, Lord of Light, Paradox the list goes on, my ears are stil ringing and it's great. Roll on next year. From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Dec 22 16:11:56 2005 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:11:56 -0500 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review Message-ID: I thought last night was absolutely magnificent. I almost didn't go- only bought my ticket the day before. I hadn't been to see HW for two years, and for some time have had the impression that the band were in terminal decline, an impression reinforced by the long-awaited but distinctly underwhelming (IMHO) new album. Tom Byrne's post (hi Tom) on the other list saying it was the best he'd seen in 30 years made me sit up and take notice, and I then talked an old gig-going mate into it. And I'm so glad I didn't miss this one... I've pretty much given up trying to rate gigs relative to each other, but even so this has to be among the finest HW peformances I've witnessed since I first saw them in 1985. They seem to have got steadily tighter and heavier over the last five years or so- last night was h-e-a-v-y, an almost industrial-metal feel on occasion. Dave B's guitar playing was revelatory- never heard him play the kind of soaring leads he produced on Paradox. As many others have said, having a real keyboard player makes that crucial difference to the overall dynamics of the band. And yes there were bits and pieces of samples and pre-sets, but this time it felt like they were adding to the sound without tying the band down. I don't have any problem at all with them making use of the technology if they're going to apply it like this. Hearing the sample of Bob Calvert's voice intoning "wave... triangle... circle.. square.." during Psi Power was a peak moment for me. A couple of tiny criticisms (nothing is ever perfect)- Out Here We Are is nice enough but not a great live track IMHO, and Love in Space is, well, just plain cheesy- the only part of the show where the momentum flagged a bit. But almost everything worked amazingly well, and Seven By Seven and Paradox were just superlative. Of the new tracks, Greenback Massacre and Angela Android sounded so much better than the studio versions, and it's nice to hear some new material and not just a 70s nostalgia set. (Actually it's more than nice, it's essential for the life of the band IMHO). Greenback Massacre is terrific live, probably the best "new" live track since Treadmill. One of the things I found disappointing about the new album was that none of the tracks seem to fully develop- it's all very bitty, the band never really go off on one in finest HW style, but they've already done some revamping and extending of the new songs for live performance. Special mention to the astonishing light show, the like of which I have never seen. I have the feeling the band felt it was a very special night, the heartfelt thanks from Rich and Alan at the end seemed like more than just the standard thank-you-and-goodnight routine. Special it was. Merry Christmas to all. Nick From jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Dec 22 17:34:24 2005 From: jill.strobridge at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:34:24 -0000 Subject: OFF: Solstice Greetings Message-ID: Trying to get a message to Rik and Valerie but can't get through! Can anyone help? Happy Solstice to all (a bit late!) cheers jill ====================================== Jill Strobridge ====================================== From pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Dec 23 00:34:24 2005 From: pamwheaton at EARTHLINK.NET (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:34:24 -0700 Subject: Happy holidays! Message-ID: A happy and wonderful holiday to all! Cheers! Pam From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 23 02:09:02 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:09:02 +0000 Subject: Computer v backing tapes Message-ID: Re the various comments on use of computers etc for backing I can't see what the problem is. Bands have been using backing tapes for a number of years to enhance the live experience - just because Hawkwind are now using computers does not make it any less live - the band still play their instruments. I appreciate that backing tapes do take away the ability to lengthen a song and jam but hey, has anyone seen the Who. Do you realise that EVERY live version of Won't Get Fooled Again is exactly the same length as they have never been able to reproduce Pete's original demo backing track. Every version does have a difernece though - That is the live effect of musicians playing. The same goes for Hawkwind. Right to Decide always had a backing track - witness the Mark Radcliffe sessions where Mark admits it as it fades out! Whenever I heard it live I did not worry as there were differences in the versions. Assassins Of Allah is another example. and within the confines of a song solos and parts can be mixed up to produce differing versions. Hawkwind aren't Girls Aloud, thank goodness, and to critise a band for the use of current technology to help Enhance (not replace) the live experience is one that I can't understand. At least the experience I had at the Astoria was of a full on concert experience and anything that allows Dave free reign of the guitar is good in my opinion. We know the band can play - just enjoy it! Steve From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Dec 23 03:41:17 2005 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:41:17 -0000 Subject: Computer v backing tapes Message-ID: computers and backing tapes are evil AND THERE CAME THE BEASTS AND KINGS WITH THEIR ARMIES AND THEIR CAPTAINS TO MAKE WAR WITH HIM UPON THE HORSE AND TO MAKE WAR WITH HIS ARMIES AND HIS EYES WERE AS A FLAME OF FIRE HE WAS CROWNED WITH MANY CROWNS AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE JUDGES AND IN RIGHTEOUSNESS HE WAGES WAR http://www.judgetrev.com so there! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Freight" To: Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 7:09 AM Subject: Computer v backing tapes Re the various comments on use of computers etc for backing I can't see what the problem is. Bands have been using backing tapes for a number of years to enhance the live experience - just because Hawkwind are now using computers does not make it any less live - the band still play their instruments. I appreciate that backing tapes do take away the ability to lengthen a song and jam but hey, has anyone seen the Who. Do you realise that EVERY live version of Won't Get Fooled Again is exactly the same length as they have never been able to reproduce Pete's original demo backing track. Every version does have a difernece though - That is the live effect of musicians playing. The same goes for Hawkwind. Right to Decide always had a backing track - witness the Mark Radcliffe sessions where Mark admits it as it fades out! Whenever I heard it live I did not worry as there were differences in the versions. Assassins Of Allah is another example. and within the confines of a song solos and parts can be mixed up to produce differing versions. Hawkwind aren't Girls Aloud, thank goodness, and to critise a band for the use of current technology to help Enhance (not replace) the live experience is one that I can't understand. At least the experience I had at the Astoria was of a full on concert experience and anything that allows Dave free reign of the guitar is good in my opinion. We know the band can play - just enjoy it! Steve From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Dec 23 05:25:09 2005 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:25:09 GMT Subject: Astoria - record fair In-Reply-To: Steve Freight's message of Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:03:00 +0000 Message-ID: Steve Freight writes: > Mike, > > Top right hand corner. > > liverpool street is nearest. Couldn't make it. Any unusual Hawkstuff spotted there? FoFP From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Fri Dec 23 06:00:35 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:00:35 +0000 Subject: Astoria - record fair In-Reply-To: <200512231025.jBNAP9Ew011803@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike, Only the usual overpriced CDR boots you find at fairs. Steve On 12/23/05, M Holmes wrote: > > Steve Freight writes: > > > Mike, > > > > Top right hand corner. > > > > liverpool street is nearest. > > Couldn't make it. Any unusual Hawkstuff spotted there? > > FoFP > From thelastdruids at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Dec 23 07:10:48 2005 From: thelastdruids at HOTMAIL.COM (Tom Byrne) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:10:48 +0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 22 Dec 2005 to 23 Dec 2005 (#2005-332) Message-ID: Hello Nick An eloquent and passionate review. I agree that the light show was the most astounding I've seen. The pefection of co-ordination showed how well the operators knew the music. As i said on the yahoo group, the lights were another instrument. The samples, etc were supplemental, I think they added to rather than constrained the performance. I was glad to bring my lad along so he could see and hear that my reminiscences of the 70s gigs were not the sepia-tinted ravings of his old man! Happy Christmas/Hannukah/Holidays/Winterval/Yule/Solstice Regards Tom > >Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:11:56 -0500 >From: Nick Medford >Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review > >I thought last night was absolutely magnificent. I almost didn't go- only >bought my ticket the day before. I hadn't been to see HW for two years, and >for some time have had the impression that the band were in terminal >decline, an impression reinforced by the long-awaited but distinctly >underwhelming (IMHO) new album. Tom Byrne's post (hi Tom) on the other >list >saying it was the best he'd seen in 30 years made me sit up and take >notice, >and I then talked an old gig-going mate into it. > >And I'm so glad I didn't miss this one... I've pretty much given up trying >to rate gigs relative to each other, but even so this has to be among the >finest HW peformances I've witnessed since I first saw them in 1985. They >seem to have got steadily tighter and heavier over the last five years or >so- last night was h-e-a-v-y, an almost industrial-metal feel on occasion. >Dave B's guitar playing was revelatory- never heard him play the kind of >soaring leads he produced on Paradox. As many others have said, having a >real keyboard player makes that crucial difference to the overall dynamics >of the band. And yes there were bits and pieces of samples and pre-sets, >but >this time it felt like they were adding to the sound without tying the band >down. I don't have any problem at all with them making use of the >technology >if they're going to apply it like this. Hearing the sample of Bob Calvert's >voice intoning "wave... triangle... circle.. square.." during Psi Power was >a peak moment for me. > >A couple of tiny criticisms (nothing is ever perfect)- Out Here We Are is >nice enough but not a great live track IMHO, and Love in Space is, well, >just plain cheesy- the only part of the show where the momentum flagged a >bit. But almost everything worked amazingly well, and Seven By Seven and >Paradox were just superlative. Of the new tracks, Greenback Massacre and >Angela Android sounded so much better than the studio versions, and it's >nice to hear some new material and not just a 70s nostalgia set. (Actually >it's more than nice, it's essential for the life of the band IMHO). >Greenback Massacre is terrific live, probably the best "new" live track >since Treadmill. One of the things I found disappointing about the new >album >was that none of the tracks seem to fully develop- it's all very bitty, the >band never really go off on one in finest HW style, but they've already >done >some revamping and extending of the new songs for live performance. > >Special mention to the astonishing light show, the like of which I have >never seen. I have the feeling the band felt it was a very special night, >the heartfelt thanks from Rich and Alan at the end seemed like more than >just the standard thank-you-and-goodnight routine. Special it was. > >Merry Christmas to all. > >Nick > From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Dec 23 20:54:20 2005 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:54:20 +0000 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: <2cd.71b85c.30dbe820@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi people,don't these shows just get better?Yes,They did the lot,still remembering a skanking Andria Android...definetly mental!I'm sure I was witnessing a hard core punk rock "workout" when they just blew the place apart!Oh,It's angela not andrea!(my wifes name)>She could hardly speak yesterday,Shouting her pretty little head off!soorry I cant give asong rundown...still glimpsing flashbacks.Nice,non drug induced!!!!!!!Thank you Hawkwind!Long may you fly!Alan Day. >From: Martin Hutchby >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review >Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:29:36 EST > >I'll agree, absolutely bloody brilliant. >7x7, Upside Down, Lord of Light, Paradox the list goes on, my ears are stil >ringing and it's great. >Roll on next year. From deborah at VACANO.ORG Fri Dec 23 21:55:24 2005 From: deborah at VACANO.ORG (Deborah Vacano) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:55:24 -0700 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!!!!! WE WANT THEM TO COME TO THE US!!! YOU know we are living through you people!! Happy Holiday!! Peace! Deborah and Guido V in Colorado alan day wrote: > Hi people,don't these shows just get better?Yes,They did the lot,still > remembering a skanking Andria Android...definetly mental!I'm sure I was > witnessing a hard core punk rock "workout" when they just blew the place > apart!Oh,It's angela not andrea!(my wifes name)>She could hardly speak > yesterday,Shouting her pretty little head off!soorry I cant give asong > rundown...still glimpsing flashbacks.Nice,non drug induced!!!!!!!Thank > you > Hawkwind!Long may you fly!Alan Day. > > >> From: Martin Hutchby >> Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review >> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:29:36 EST >> >> I'll agree, absolutely bloody brilliant. >> 7x7, Upside Down, Lord of Light, Paradox the list goes on, my ears >> are stil >> ringing and it's great. >> Roll on next year. > > From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Sat Dec 24 05:23:15 2005 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:23:15 +1100 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review Message-ID: That goes out equally from some of us here in Australia. Allan Sharpe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Vacano" To: Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review > DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!!!!! WE WANT THEM TO COME TO THE US!!! > YOU know we are living through you people!! > > Happy Holiday!! > Peace! > Deborah and Guido V in Colorado > > alan day wrote: > >> Hi people,don't these shows just get better?Yes,They did the lot,still >> remembering a skanking Andria Android...definetly mental!I'm sure I was >> witnessing a hard core punk rock "workout" when they just blew the place >> apart!Oh,It's angela not andrea!(my wifes name)>She could hardly speak >> yesterday,Shouting her pretty little head off!soorry I cant give asong >> rundown...still glimpsing flashbacks.Nice,non drug induced!!!!!!!Thank >> you >> Hawkwind!Long may you fly!Alan Day. >> >> >>> From: Martin Hutchby >>> Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review >>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:29:36 EST >>> >>> I'll agree, absolutely bloody brilliant. >>> 7x7, Upside Down, Lord of Light, Paradox the list goes on, my ears >>> are stil >>> ringing and it's great. >>> Roll on next year. >> >> > From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Sat Dec 24 08:56:26 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 05:56:26 -0800 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Alan said... alan day wrote: >Hi people,don't these shows just get better?Yes,They did the lot,still >remembering a skanking Andria Android...definetly mental > >Oh,It's angela not andrea!(my wifes name) Yeah, and I listened again at the end for the additional verse, compared to what's on the CD, and I don't think I'm imagining it. I can't remember the first three lines at all, but it's the one that ends up... "Here we go...here we go, again" Can anybody transcribe the rest of the final verse from any one of the live versions (Xmas '04 single or whatever) to put in with the other lyrics? I assume it's not on the album 'cause they have Lydia Lunch reprising one of the earlier stanzas in her, uh, unique style. Actually, I rather like it, as it fits the theme of the song pretty darn well. Is this her normal singing style? What's her music like? Thanks to whoever posted the official Digital Nation lyrics. I don't have any idea what release that is that has those lyrics printed, but I think they're the right ones. As always, I heard some things incorrectly. Um...somebody said Arthur's Sunray lyrics are in the TMTYL booklet. Not in mine, they're not. Again, is this some other release I don't know about? The one with the not-at-all-different-DVD tracklist, perhaps? Anyway, I'd like to read them if anyone is willing to type em in or something. The Astoria gig was another cracking one, though not quite as good as the first two, IMHO. The hall is just not a very good one, acoustically, though the upper balcony is a nice place to view the proceedings (just not loud enough up there for my tastes...or perhaps deafness). The mix was never quite there all night...never enough of Richard, either vocally or especially his lower range drums (including kick-bass). For that reason, it was an especially loud guitar-night, a bit too blaring without percussive punch at times. Still, a great gig due to the amazingly strong set and energy therein, OHWA and Love in Space (ah...forgot to list that one in my out-of-sequence setlist last time...that's because it serves as a good bathroom/beer break). Jez Huggett was only audible during bits of 7x7 (flute) and his sax finally got turned up later in some other track, AoA perhaps. The dancers did essentially the same routines as before, the only difference to the visual show being the psychedelic orange-green dayglo mushroom garden over on stage right. Spacehead did a fine opening set, though they started just a few minutes after the doors opened, so nobody could get in to see the first couple songs. Man were again without Deke Leonard (Josh son-of-Martin Ace filling in again, and not so convincingly). They were much better a couple of years ago, when they were at least still semi-legit. But anyway, better than nothing. They played C'mon, Romaine, and a couple other tunes I can't remember the names of. Grakkl (in Amsterdam) P.S. Black Widow has a compilation CD out of tracks by Standarte, Fantasyy Factoryy, Beggar's Farm, and one by Sundial. One of the Beggar's Farm tracks is a cover of We Took the Wrong Step Years Ago. Anyone have/heard this? Is the CD worth getting? On the subject of Sundial, I understand that there's a CD out there called Quad or something, by Gary Ramon in some other guise or something. Is this also worth getting? Is it new or old recording? P.P.S. Et Sans, a spinoff band (one of many) of gybe! is supposedly interesting for krautrock fans. Anybody heard this stuff? Recommendations? --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Sat Dec 24 09:08:48 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 06:08:48 -0800 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: <20051224135626.60732.qmail@web35408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: >Still, a great gig due to the amazingly strong set and energy therein, OHWA >and Love in Space (ah...forgot to list that one in my out-of-sequence setlist >last time...that's because it serves as a good bathroom/beer break) excepted. (it should have read) Grakkl P.S. Psi Power was the night's highlight, IMHO. --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less From khenders64 at YAHOO.COM Sat Dec 24 09:10:47 2005 From: khenders64 at YAHOO.COM (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 06:10:47 -0800 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: <20051224135626.60732.qmail@web35408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: >P.S. Black Widow has a compilation CD out of tracks by Standarte, >Fantasyy Factoryy, Beggar's Farm, and one by Sundial. "Tapestry of Delights" it's called, if that helps. Grakkl --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Sat Dec 24 10:15:37 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:15:37 +0000 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: <20051224135626.60732.qmail@web35408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 24 Dec 2005, at 13:56, Keith Henderson wrote: > On the subject of Sundial, I understand that there's a CD out there > called Quad or something, by Gary Ramon in some other guise or > something. Is this also worth getting? Is it new or old recording? It's not new, I think -- I'm pretty sure I remember _Quad_ listed as an LP in the old Freak Emporium catalogs back in the '90s. I don't think I've heard it, possibly because it was an LP and I haven't had access to an LP player since I was a teenager :) I did get a CD of some other Gary Ramon project thing, a pre-Sundial thing maybe; it had a cover over of the Monkees' "Circle Sky" :) Cheers, Carl ObMP3: "That's What Love Will Make You Do", Gov't Mule with Trey Anastasio & Ivan Neville, 12/16/05, The Orange Peel, Asheville, NC, USA. ps - the real question is whether anyone's worked out the right lyrics to "Upside Down" yet!!!! -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Dec 24 14:18:40 2005 From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (Mark Storer) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:18:40 -0000 Subject: Sunray Message-ID: Here are the lyrics for Sunray. They are in the booklet that came with the "Export" version of TMTYL, which I got from CDS. SUNRAY A troubled world is what we're living in for sure angels and demons both are knocking at my door taking a survey of just what we're fighting for No time for leaders or for heroes that's all done lords of the universe we each are everyone guarding the doorways of the future that must come Guardians of dark and light we'll shine on through the night into the never never neverland As was foretold we all stand now upon the brink of a new vision with a mind that's on the blink a well whose water now we all must learn to drink Guardians of dark and light we'll shine on through the night into a never never neverland. From stevefreight at GMAIL.COM Sat Dec 24 16:57:46 2005 From: stevefreight at GMAIL.COM (Steve Freight) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:57:46 +0000 Subject: Rene and Renato anyone (Yes it is HAWKWIND related - just) Message-ID: Just caught Matthew Wright on Celebrity Stars in Their Eyes. At least he got a mention in about being a Psychedelic Sonic Warrior in before singing! He was better than Vanessa - pity I was looking forward to Gimme Shelter as Richard and Sam. Steve From deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Dec 25 21:15:26 2005 From: deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Cyberkrel) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 02:15:26 -0000 Subject: Happy holidays! Message-ID: More for Mike H I think than anyone but............. On Tuesday Dec 27th between 8 and 10pm on Leith FM that serves Edinburgh and surroundings, there's gonna be the radio event of the year when me and Electra present a two hour programme featuring some of the best unsigned bands across rock, punk, indie and beyond - it's gonna be good!! If you're not there, get a friend in Edinburgh to record it!! - and listen out for the "exclusive" Krel track - fun for the festive season!! Seasons Greetings, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton To: Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 5:34 AM Subject: Happy holidays! > A happy and wonderful holiday to all! > Cheers! > Pam From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Dec 26 13:39:36 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:39:36 +0000 Subject: BOC: remasters... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 12:35:13PM -0500, Ted Jackson typed out: > There is mention of Spectres and Some Senchanted... > remasters on the B?C website, but it says late in > '06 for a release date... I'll be there. whenever, doesn't matter. I'll be waiting :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: Litmus - _You Are Here_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Dec 26 14:07:00 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:07:00 +0000 Subject: HW: TMTYL In-Reply-To: <20051220181356.2938.qmail@web35405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 10:13:56AM -0800, Keith Henderson typed out: > There has been hardly any discussion of the new album here on boc-l, > probably for the same reason that I have been rather ho-hum about > it...which is...None of the songs are new (to those of us who have seen > them live over a dozen times in the last two years, at least...which > means that we should have heard something from the US contingent who > haven't been lucky enough to have been there at the shows). Well, the > title track TMTYL is one that I haven't heard live, so that one is new > at least. And it's quite an interesting piece, perhaps one that > wouldn't work live so well. If I remember the track well enough, it has > a kind of post-rock character to it that I wouldn't have expected to > hear from HW. It gives the album some more variety to it, along with > the techno-ish bits, the (oft-quoted, almost ad nauseum, during the > interviews) Jason-jazz piano influence (what do you think of that, > DougP.?), and the two heavy tracks (GM and TLaM). I agree with a lot of this. I'm not sure the preview clips really helped here in a way because by the time the album finally came out behind them, it all seemed too familiar and nothing was really surprising. Then, secondly, a lot of things were not what I'd been hoping: I'd assumed `Sun Ray would be the best thing on it by miles, for example, and was annoyed to find that the ixing seemed to have robbed it of some of its potential. This would be the other problem: by the time the album finally emerged we'd got used to *better* versions of these songs, from the band playing them live. It's taken me a long time to adjust my expectations out of the opinion and come to a grip with what Hawkwind have actually sold us here, and now that I've done it I have to admit I'm liking it more and more. It doesn't fit the usual Hawkwind pattern we've got used to of a few blanga tracks and a few bits of techno to join them together. Most of the really good stuff here is actually the kind of crossover territory the Ozrics were hitting with `Oakum' and so on. For a while the only thing I was really keen on on the disc was `Out Here We Are', which is the sort of Davey synth stuff I can never imagine him enjoying but which I very much do. Since then I've adjusted to `Angela Android', though, and admitted that if I didn't know it was HW I'd love it, so finally see no reason not to love it given that it is HW :-) and `Sun Ray' *is* good, even if it's a shame Arthur's down so low in the mix (and the same could be said for Dave's guitar on `Angela Android', which sounds as if it *might* be a break of `Flying Doctor'-style craziness but you just can't hear it properly. Maybe my stereo isn't as good as they expect of their listeners :-) I think Keith may have the button on it with with the post-rock thing. This is post-90s HW. They have actually moved on from where they used to be. But the thing that may have dulled the praise is that they've done it with bits we knew quite well already. we've heard a lot of the synth textures and samples being used in various Brock solo things and bit on _Spacebrock_ over the last fve years, so that now, even though they've been used a lot more consideredly and placed better on TMTYL we're not hearing them as new and exciting. We knew the hits already and there's Star Nation and Davey stuff and Brock stuff that kind of *telegraphs* everything on the disc but `SUn Ray' so it rather lacks the ability to surprise. But when I put it on now it tends to get two plays before I can put something else on. I don't know how long this will last before it wears on me, but at the moment I'm pretty happy with this album. Except `Spirit of the Age' which they should have just left alone, but you can't have everything can you? > GM is starting to finally grow on me a bit, and it's OK still being in > the set now...it's really only very tiny bit of the song that I don't > like (the sound of Alan's voice on the words at the end of each line of > chorus...Rooo-ound, En-er-gee-eeeee, etc.) that spoil it for > me...otherwise, it's a good tune, and the Classic Rock reviewer was > right about it having 'balls.' I didn't think much of `Greenback Massacre' until I got the album, actually, it might be one of the few tracks that's come out better on the album than it did when I last saw it live. I understand how it's supposed to fit together now. Live comments I have no responses too, because money and time and energy just haven't made it possible for me to get to a gig this tour. But I'm appreciating the information. I wish more people were posting about BOC like this :-) Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Dec 26 14:17:05 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:17:05 +0000 Subject: HW: Weird Dream (slightly off) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 12:15:28PM -0600, Arin Komins typed out: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Steve Freight wrote: > :Just thought I'd share a very weird dream I had last night. > :Was in the middle of a fight involving the Daleks and the emperor made a > :speech. > :Word for word - Sonic Attack (along lines of Zones) with backing by the > :band!! > :Come to think of it it would really make a great scene in the next series! > :Bring out the Hawkwlords ala Queens of Deleria to save the Earth. > Now if only we could get HW to remix the Who theme and have them air > that.... The copyright implications would be horrible :-( And I bet poor old Delia's estate wouldn't see a penny. The Beeb should however have certainly commissioned HW to do the version for the new series... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Dec 26 14:19:32 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:19:32 +0000 Subject: BOC: remasters... In-Reply-To: <000f01c60607$11729ee0$0a00000a@studybox> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:18:04AM -0000, Tony typed out: > There's a blistering version of "Stairway To The Stars" on the Live In The > West bootleg from July 1975. Some of the tracks made it onto the Tyranny > and Mutation re-master (Od'd, Dizbusters). Let's hope that some of the > others (Flaming Telepaths, Astronomy) make it onto any OYFOOYK reissue. `Stairway' definitely wants to be on there. 2002 was much too long to wait for a live version of that on record. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From CWarburton at OAG.COM Thu Dec 29 05:06:49 2005 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (CWarburton at OAG.COM) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:06:49 -0000 Subject: Astoria Message-ID: Grakkl (in Amsterdam) wrote: > Man were again without Deke Leonard (Josh son-of-Martin Ace filling in again, > and not so convincingly). > They were much better a couple of years ago, when they were at least still semi-legit. > But anyway, better than nothing. They played C'mon, Romaine, and a couple other tunes > I can't remember the names of. The reason they were without Deke is that he's left (again - how many times is that *G*) and doing his own thing with Iceberg. The important thing is (and enquiring minds NTK) was Micky recovered and playing, or was George (Jones Jr.) still depping for his old Man? Cheers ChrisW NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the named recipient(s). It may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not one of the intended recipients, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and attachment(s): you must not copy, distribute, retain or take any action in reliance upon the email or attachment(s). While all reasonable efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, OAG Worldwide Ltd and its affiliate companies cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or are compatible with your systems, and does not accept liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. Thank you. From merlinas at BTCONNECT.COM Thu Dec 29 06:51:24 2005 From: merlinas at BTCONNECT.COM (David Bottomley) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:51:24 -0000 Subject: Astoria Message-ID: > The reason they were without Deke is that he's left (again - how many > times is that *G*) and doing his own thing with Iceberg. The important > thing is (and enquiring minds NTK) was Micky recovered and playing, or > was George (Jones Jr.) still depping for his old Man? According to Martin Ace, Micky is/was sadly (back) in hospital, so we did indeed have George taking his place. And, I have to say, he's a very talented lad. Deke's place has been taken by Ace's son (Josh, I think). This was the first time I'd seen this line up of the band and was pleasantly surprised by how good they were. Dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Dec 29 12:29:15 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:29:15 +0000 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 04:11:56PM -0500, Nick Medford typed out: > I thought last night was absolutely magnificent. I almost didn't go- only > bought my ticket the day before. I hadn't been to see HW for two years, and > for some time have had the impression that the band were in terminal > decline, an impression reinforced by the long-awaited but distinctly > underwhelming (IMHO) new album. Tom Byrne's post (hi Tom) on the other list > saying it was the best he'd seen in 30 years made me sit up and take notice, > and I then talked an old gig-going mate into it. This makes me sorry I didn't try harder to mke it myself. I let shortage of cash and tiredness convince me that if I did go I wouldn't enjoy it or give a fair review, but I wasn't actually expecting the cynics to find it good. I'm sorry I missed it now, but glad to have the review. I think that at the moment I am fairly solidly plotting to catch them at Roadburn this year, along with whatever is left of the Ozrics and likewise of the Bevis Frond. Seems like it's going to be alarmingly heavy on that kind of `past glories' kind of acts but should clearly still be done for all that. I'm glad Hawkwind have still got something to make people excited anyway. I'd more or less decided there was no point in hoping for that by now. Yours, Jon ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Red Shift_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From grinningboy at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Dec 29 13:35:44 2005 From: grinningboy at NTLWORLD.COM (Charlie Grant) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:35:44 -0000 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review Message-ID: the gig got a 5 out of 5 star review in todays Independant, praise indeed. .......CtGB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" To: Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:29 PM Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review > On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 04:11:56PM -0500, Nick Medford typed out: >> I thought last night was absolutely magnificent. I almost didn't go- only >> bought my ticket the day before. I hadn't been to see HW for two years, >> and >> for some time have had the impression that the band were in terminal >> decline, an impression reinforced by the long-awaited but distinctly >> underwhelming (IMHO) new album. Tom Byrne's post (hi Tom) on the other >> list >> saying it was the best he'd seen in 30 years made me sit up and take >> notice, >> and I then talked an old gig-going mate into it. > > This makes me sorry I didn't try harder to mke it myself. I let > shortage of cash and tiredness convince me that if I did go I wouldn't > enjoy it or give a fair review, but I wasn't actually expecting the cynics > to find it good. I'm sorry I missed it now, but glad to have the review. I > think that at the moment I am fairly solidly plotting to catch them at > Roadburn this year, along with whatever is left of the Ozrics and likewise > of the Bevis Frond. Seems like it's going to be alarmingly heavy on that > kind of `past glories' kind of acts but should clearly still be done for > all that. > > I'm glad Hawkwind have still got something to make people excited > anyway. I'd more or less decided there was no point in hoping for that by > now. Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Red Shift_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -------------------------------------------------------- > "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Dec 29 14:28:30 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:28:30 -0600 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: <001001c60ca6$af59f310$0202a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Charlie Grant wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review : :the gig got a 5 out of 5 star review in todays Independant, praise indeed. : URL for this is: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/reviews/article335557.ece (for those of us who can't get the paper any other way ;-) ). Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/Network-Based Services University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Dec 29 14:31:28 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:31:28 +0000 Subject: Computer v backing tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Dec 2005, at 08:41, trev wrote: > computers and backing tapes are evil For live performances, I'm 100% with Trev on this one. For studio ... well, that's a different kind of performance environment! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Dec 29 14:38:57 2005 From: akomins at UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:38:57 -0600 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Arin Komins wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review : :On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Charlie Grant wrote: : ::Subject: Re: HW: Astoria gig review :: ::the gig got a 5 out of 5 star review in todays Independant, praise indeed. :: : :URL for this is: :http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/reviews/article335557.ece : :(for those of us who can't get the paper any other way ;-) ). Although, having read the above, isn't the reviewer wrong? Isn't Jason Stuart still on synth, or was it really a three piece for the Astoria? Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Assistant Director/Network-Based Services University of Chicago/NSIT/NBS tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #307a, Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Dec 29 14:47:43 2005 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:47:43 +0000 Subject: Greetings friends; an explanation about my recent disappearance Message-ID: Greetings friends; although it;s not my style to talk much about my personal life, I just wanted to inform all the lists, and supporters of my music what's been going on with me. I am seperated from my wife with divorce looming ahead. It's been very rough, and I've relocated back to my family farm in central New Jersey. I haven't played a public performance since September, but will be doing a private acoustic blues/r&b jam on New years eve which will be recorded. It will feature Jay Adcock, and Greg Elwell and perhaps a special guest. I currently only have access to e-mail about once a week on a public computer, and to top it all off, I was laid off by the college I've been teaching for for 5 years. all that plus court ordered child support ( with no income ) has put a serious damper on live performances. I have however recorded about 60 minutes worth of new music since October and I think some of it is quite good. Eventually it will get out there. I'm sorry I missed Kev Ellis's deadline for submissions for his Solstice program, but like I said "it's been very hard". If anyone is interestd in helping get some of this material on the air, on the net or on record let me know. I also have a tremendous amount of unissued material, but unlike my 'agressive promotion' of the past, I now need help from anyone that is interested in Sloterdijk, The One Eyed Bishops, my solo work and my new project 'JG". Peace, MIke Burro From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Dec 29 15:30:06 2005 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:30:06 +0000 Subject: HW: Astoria gig review In-Reply-To: <20051224135626.60732.qmail@web35408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 05:56:26AM -0800, Keith Henderson typed out: > Yeah, and I listened again at the end for the additional verse, compared to what's on the CD, and I don't think I'm imagining it. I can't remember the first three lines at all, but it's the one that ends up... > > "Here we go...here we go, again" > > Can anybody transcribe the rest of the final verse from any one of the live versions (Xmas '04 single or whatever) to put in with the other lyrics? > > I assume it's not on the album 'cause they have Lydia Lunch reprising one of the earlier stanzas in her, uh, unique style. Actually, I rather like it, as it fits the theme of the song pretty darn well. Is this her normal singing style? What's her music like? That verse is on the album, actually, it's the second part of what Lene Lovich (N. B. confusing her with Lydia Lunch may get you into quite the wrong sort of gigs, though I'm not sure which way round would be more distressing) squeaks in the studio version, or at least it ends up like that. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Dec 29 15:49:03 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:49:03 +0000 Subject: remasters... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 21 Dec 2005, at 12:23, Ted Jackson wrote: >>>> tim at KALYR.COM 12/20/2005 2:43 PM >>> >> Two I'm very much looking forward to. IMO Spectres has the worse >> sound >> of any B?C release, which I hope the remaster can improve on. > > Yes, and all the more frustrating given there'e some great > material on that disc... Death Valley Nights! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM Thu Dec 29 17:13:41 2005 From: Thaiboysexpress at AOL.COM (Martin Hutchby) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:13:41 EST Subject: Computer v backing tapes Message-ID: Computers and backing tapes are evil are they.....? mmmm who's just filled the Astoria then? Does it matter? For Gods sake enjoy it and stop finding reasons to moan. From cea at CARLAZ.COM Thu Dec 29 18:58:00 2005 From: cea at CARLAZ.COM (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:58:00 +0000 Subject: Space Ritual efforts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 16 Dec 2005, at 23:35, Jade man wrote: > For the past 6 months and actually much longer I have been devoting my > efforts to creating a tribute to the loose, heavy, spacey sound of > Space > Ritual. Its all recorded live and no post mixing. I wondered if > anyone had > any comments/advice/feedback to offer? I finally got a chance to listen to this, and it's pretty cool. I've heard much worse Hawkwind covers :) How did you record it live? Are there actually like 4 or 5 of you? Reveal your secrets! I like how the synths came out -- I've a ways to go getting good swooshy sounds! I think sometimes you went a bit heavy on the echo for the vocals (or is it un-spacerock for me to think so? :) But hey, pretty cool :) I agree that Lord of Light particularly stands out; the basic drums/bass/guitar foundation seems to gel there better than in, say, MotU. I started programming up drums for Lord of Light and MotU a couple of months back, but never finished 'em off (see? the dangers of computers and backing tracks! ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson http://www.carlaz.com/ From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Fri Dec 30 11:08:40 2005 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:08:40 -0600 Subject: BOC: Remasters In-Reply-To: <200512301000.jBUA03We019538@www.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:49:03 +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >Subject: Re: remasters... >On 21 Dec 2005, at 12:23, Ted Jackson wrote: >> Yes, and all the more frustrating given there'e some great >> material on that disc... > >Death Valley Nights! :) That's what I need. m@ +-mbraun at urbana.css.mot.com-+--Experiments that failed too many times -----BOC+ | Matt Braun -- Motorola, | Transformations that were too hard to find | |Champaign IL Design Centre | Poison's in my bloodstream, poison's in my pride| +Simulation Technology Team-+--- I'm after rebellion--I'll settle for lies. --+ From chrisow at SHAW.CA Fri Dec 30 13:47:25 2005 From: chrisow at SHAW.CA (Jade man) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:47:25 -0500 Subject: space rites Message-ID: Hej Carl, Thanks for the reply. Have to agree with much of what you said. I am having second thoughts on the vocal echoes, perhaps using it on two speaking tracks and one song is enough. I may re-record it all again. I actually did it all again about 24 hours after I posted here so I dont know which version you downloaded. I play the whole thing live, recording everything and hoping for some spontaniety which if it works gets fed back in next time. I also agree with your comments on MotU. I believe I can get away with Dave Brocks heavy riffs, but I still cant get very far with Huw's Lead, especially when I have to stop rhythm to play lead! Yes I am and always have been a solo player who would like to find others into this kind of music, not easy out here with all this cuntry music. I am producing about 10 CD copies of this music intended as my creative contribution to posterity lol. I will be putting the artwork up on the webpage later today hopefully. My intention was always to recreate the Space Ritual sound and then when I find it produce my own material! Time is my enemy. I get about 5 days a year to work on all this and I am 44 last time I checked! Mike Burro, sorry to hear about the personal problems, been there, done that, shit happens. Hopefully no kids involved otherwise it really sucks to hell. Only advice, be as hard as nails, do whats right, stay away from lawyers, and get on with making a better future. Sounds easy put like that, but I know it aint and it takes about 4 years, bit like bereavement. Anyway hope things work out for you. Happy new year to the Wind Nation of worldwide Hawkwind fans! Chris From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Sat Dec 31 15:31:00 2005 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John Swartz) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:31:00 -0500 Subject: BOC Remasters In-Reply-To: <200512311000.jBVA04mW022281@www.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: >> >>>Yes, and all the more frustrating given there'e some great >>>material on that disc... >> >>Death Valley Nights! :) > > > That's what I need. Before I have a hangover, you know... From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Dec 31 16:00:37 2005 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:00:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Radio Shows + Mail Order Goodies Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com December 31, 2005: NEW RADIO SHOWS + MAIL ORDER GOODIES We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #139), and Drool Trough (show #41). See the playlists below. Aural Innovations broadcasts 24 hours a day in hi and lo bandwidth Mp3 and RealAudio editions. You can go directly to the Radio shows page at: http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html MAIL ORDER NEWS: Several of you have asked about the new Darxtar CD. The CD's are in transmit from Germany and I'll notify anyone who asked just as soon as they arrive. New in stock now are TWO new albums by Lamp of the Universe. One is a CD released by Mr Lamp himself, Craig Wiliamson, and the other is an LP released by September Gurls Records. Also in stock is the debut CD by Croatian space-psych-freakout masters Seven That Spells, Acid Mothers Temple's "Anthem of the Space", Circle's "Tulikoira", and the Transubstans label reissue of Swedish hard rock band R?g i Ryggen's only album, originally released in 1975. Get all the details at http://www.aural-innovations.com/store. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #139) Acid Mothers Temple & The Cosmic Inferno ? ?Poppy Rock? (from Anthem of the Space) Electric Orange ? ?Koodu? (from fleischwerk) Weird Biscuit Teatime ? ?Oh Dear? (from DJDDAY) Damo Suzuki's Network ? ?3 Dead People After the Performance? (from 3 Dead People After the Performance) Circle ? ?Berserk? (from Tulikoira) Zlad ? ?Elektronic Supersonik? (from ?) Insider ? ?Jammin? for Smiling God? (from Jammin? for Smiling God) Coochie?s Bream ? ?Canned Flutes? (from Coochie?s Bream) The Pancakes ? ?Muchachas Arriba? (From SpaceCow) Seven that Spells ? ?Bliss My Cosmic Peach? (from My Mommy Wants to Kiss Your Mamma) Edward Ka-Spel ? ?Flipside? (from A Long Red Ladder to the Moon) Paul Chain ? ?Cosmic Wind Part 1? (excerpt) (from Cosmic Wind) Drool Trough (show #41) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. Jess Rowland ? ?Om? (from Scenes from the Silent Revolution) Richard Trible ? ?A Slaying Song Tonight? (from web site) Dave Dill ? ?Merry Christmas? (from web site) Mozart Rottweiler - "The Morley Christmas Rapper" (from Plan 9 Christmas from Outer Space) The Pancakes ? ?The Ghost? (From SpaceCow) Lord Litter & Don Campau ? ?(I Wawnna Be A) Pop Idol? (from Pen Pals 4) Nick Bensen & Don Campau ? ?Let The Team Down? (from Pen Pals 4) Rosso Fluido - ?Viola? (from Con la Bellezza Barcollante al Tuo Fianco) COS ? ?Amigos? (from Pasiones) Semble ? ?I Look Forward? (from Semble 3) Bret Hart ? ?J.F.K.? (from Twain) Joshua Charles ? ?Hear (pt. 2)? (from upcoming album, Being in the Energy Funnel) Joshua Charles ? ?Dollar Bills? (from A Positive Flow) won JAMES won - ?Prevyet Ya Vash Lyubeeoi Gvor? (from Tol's Toy) Andrei Suchilin & Sergei Turko ? ?Lhasa-Goa Train? (from Tenues Sine Corpore Vitae) Skinbat Scramble ? ?Ignition? (from Volume 5: The Lost Book of the Psychedelic Pirates) Mask ? ?Shelter Skelter? (from Heavy Petal) The Naked Eye ? ?All Talk No Action? (from Done and Dusted) Brother JT ? ?Poor God? (from Indoor Sunshine) The Slow Poisoner ? ?Come to Me? (from Fatal Floral Phonograph) http://Aural-Innovations.com