From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Thu Jan 1 07:36:36 2004 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (HawkFan) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:36:36 -0000 Subject: Guess the Hawkwind track Message-ID: A diversion for those (like me) with a New Years day hangover. The following are acronyms of Hawkwind tracks. Do you know the track? I got about half of them straight off, but some of the tracks from later albums I had to give up on. No prizes, and I'm not going to mark your efforts! I'll post the list in a day or two. Note that where tracks start with "The" it is sometimes but not always omitted. JR abd am tai aia aod av aylym aiu aab ta bitb by bmu btf bc bes bs btg bp br bioh cha cots cym cl co tcom dol da dv dl dv dotu dgh dwtd dt dm de di dttn df ds dc dw dre dr dot ec ea e el ete2 5-4 fa f451 foec fe fsof flom tfd ff tgv ge gfd his hw h hr htc hod hos im in ite itr ise jos tjatg kc kos le li loake litf lol loc lc lj lis lsd mag mwyc moc motu mom mic moi m mc mo mo-c n1 n2 ng ns nj noth nfacp nd nt otc too otddoacwk oa osc oots ott pa tpol py pr psi pw psyc pxr5 qsc rm trs rob rp rttbb sk s sa sbs sd sditn sm soatt sa smg sots sid st sota ss sote sc sof smop so sote sw tfy ts tj trs twbhh tgyn wttf twltwt tb tm tr tvs tai ta cha tcom tcotbs dl dm tfd tgv tjatg too tpol sk watch usom ug u84 v10 votw tgv wft woteot w w - a second track starting with W w - a third track starting with W, they must like W wos wtgg wttws ww wttf wtggt wgwtw twbhh x ybmu ykyod ybbi z From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Jan 2 15:57:24 2004 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:57:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Astoria/MQB Message-ID: Gr?ezi mitenand... Well, I got everything I wanted for Christmas, what about you? Mr. Quimby's Beard/Tired Earth - Bar 36, Sunderland (Tyne & Wear), England - 20 December, 2003 So, it had seemed to me that shows on consecutive nights by two great space rock acts a mere 275 miles apart would have led quite a few punters to take in both...but then I come from an American perspective, where such distances are hardly anything. The fact that this journey covers nearly the entire country from north-to-south...I don't see why that's so important. The simple fact that it *can* be done (despite the best efforts of Great North Eastern Rail) without so much difficulty means that I couldn't think of any reason why not to treat myself to this 2-for-1 deal. I had just seen (in August) both Mr. Quimby's Beard (twice in fact, doing completely different 1-hour sets) and Hawkwind at the 2nd (hopefully) annual Hawkfest weekend in the Lake District. Normally, that would make me *less* likely to book a long travel to see them so soon again. But then, they were both so good that at least I knew I would enjoy what I heard. In the end, it was well worth it...and also I could use it as an excuse to *not* fly back to the states to visit my family over the holidaze - a nice bonus! Not that I have anything against my family...it's just, you know, so predictable. Well, not knowing really where I was going or where to find accomodations, I wrote to MQB synth-master Hardy (in the process learning his full name and the story behind it, but I won't reveal it here 'cause if he really wanted that known, he'd have printed it on the CD covers) for suggestions. But then he was kind enough to open up his own home to me for two full days, which made arrangements much easier. Not surprisingly, the weather was gloomy, wet, and cold, so neither one of us was too keen on sightseeing much. So most of the time then was sacrificed for the cause of music, not surprisingly. For better or worse, I got to see all the effort that goes into putting on just a single 'club' show in one's own hometown. Made all that more complicated when none of the band members owns a van and so three cars must rendezvous at the practice room to load all the gear, just to transport it a half-mile into a throng of Christmas shoppers on a busy street. In the rain. I won't bore you with the rest of the details...I'll just say that I never wanted to be a band because I knew I'd rather hear (many) other bands play rather than myself playing the same thing over and over a hundred times. But because the hassles of gigging just seem not worth the effort, this also reconfirms my feelings on the issue. Of course, without these masochists forging onwards, I'd have no concerts to attend, so I'm eternally grateful for their sacrifice. Not to mention their talents. OK, the gig! Bar 36 I learned is a brand new club in the heart of Sunderland, an upstairs establishment with a potentially high-quality soundsystem (high-wattage at least), with a large ante-room for pool or games, and a bit more conducive to conversation. The band didn't expect much of an audience on such a crappy night, especially just before the holiday, but a number of the most dedicated Quimby fans did show, as well as an ever-growing number of "unsuspecting" patrons throughout the evening. These were the obvious ones...young, attractive, well-dressed...they had no business being at a space-rock show! I kid...all are welcome, even if they practice the wrong religion. An I was happy to see that not all of them scrunched up their noses with derision and snuck to the back room away from the horrible racket, but some even looked entertained and amazingly tried to dance! To Space Rock...hard to believe. Ah, so, off the track again...before the Quimbys even appeared, another local band (all the way from magpie-infested Newcastle-upon-Tyne, maybe 20 miles to the northwest) called Tired Earth put forth a decent 40-minute set of classic rock material. Most of which seemed original, but I remember that they played a version of Peter Green's "Green Manalishi," he of two-pronged crown fame. They had a few sound problems here and there, and they were oriented very oddly on the stage amidst MQB's gear, mainly because the stage seemed actually deeper than it is (not very) wide. The construction of this club placed the DJ booth/dance floor at a priority above the stage, and so bands have a hard time connecting to their audience. (And so the audience have a hard time finding the musicians they're hearing.) Again, I digress. Well, anyway, the four-piece Tired Earth were a decent-enough warm-up act, but were more decidedly more "bluesy" than "spacey." Not that there's anything wrong with that. The Quimbys came on soon thereafter, launching the show with a reworked oldie entitled "Mossy" from the first cassette (available now on CD from the band, www.mrquimbysbeard.com, also where you can find at the moment a t-shirt sporting artwork from same). The tune now goes on quite some time, with the long reggae-dubbish jam being something that I can really get into...works so well in a 'cosmic' sense, as you might have already discovered if you ever listened to any Ozrics at all. The band next struggled to keep "Nebulae" together, probably due to the ever-changing sound environment, but then quickly resumed strength with another classic oldie, "Marijuana Nightmare." This one also featured an extended ad-lib jam and set the scene for even louder moments to come. "Chariots" is one of the songs that we will hear on the next CD for sure, but as it has appeared in the live set for over two years now, hard to call it a 'new' song anymore. But I really love this one (perhaps my favorite of all Quimby works) and even without much spontaneity on this night, it was the highlight of the evening for me, due also to the fact that the sound was still quite good where I was standing. That all changed for some reason during the rest of the set, as (due to what, I can't say) we started to get some strange audio effects in the air...it must have been partly a result of the extra dancefloor PA that makes the club almost 'quadrophonic.' But then when it got loud, the sound became rather 'wowy and fluttery' - chaotic wave upon wave of sonic currents alternately augmenting and destroying each other. Well, ok, that sounds like a *good* thing at a space rock show, but really the Quimbys were doing a fine job of that on their own already. The guy at the controls should have let well enough alone, really. Next was "Pollen," this one being a true new song that features a number of separate loud (distorted, sadly) and soft (beautiful) passages, the latter the sort of thing that co-vocalists Hardy & Ray color with harmonized "Ahhh's" against chattering guitars and a mix of burbling synth noises. They wrapped up with a strong rendition of "Mystery," and then a pair of encores. "Beyond the Light" is another of my favorite tunes and guitarist Jim Walton here had a particularly nice intro lead, but the song winds and twists through many different feels by the end. The true "end" came a bit later though, as a second encore came in the form of "The Acid Bringer," which featured an extended synth intro by Hardy mainly because the rest of the band had gone offstage thinking they were done. Towards the end, the sound did begin again to improve, so that overall the show went pretty well especially since the band tried to put their best forward for their hometown fans on this special pre-Christmas show. Late into the set, three guys dressed as Santa Claus (though none were appropriately portly) walked into the club and they added additional color to the surroundings (the club had a full-sized tree with lights and all in the corner by the bar as well). Sadly, the mini-disc recording that I was instructed to produce with Hardy's own personal setup failed to archive this performance due to an unfortunate technical glitch. Which means that nobody can produce evidence to the contrary on my opinion that Mr. Quimby's Beard continues to be a very strong live space-rock act. The visuals during the show were provided by fellow AI-contributor A. "Polly" Pollard to great effect, though certain members of the band might have preferred just a little less fog. Many times, though, awesome starburst effects were produced from the rear-projected lights, that while turning everyone on stage into silhouettes (when you could even see them at all), was definitely fitting to the overall atmosphere produced by the cosmic sounds. Setlist - MQB: Mossy '03 Nebulae Marijuana Nightmare Chariots Pollen Mystery -------------- Beyond the Light The Acid Bringer Hawkwind/Tarantism - Astoria, London, England - 21 December, 2003 After getting sufficient rest (barely) following the late Saturday night I had in Sunderland, I managed to arrive in Newcastle's main train station at the proper time (15 minutes early in fact). Which was much more than could be said for my pre-booked train, which wasn't in fact 'late' so much as it was, um, 'cancelled.' But that's ok...they have trains to King's Cross/London leaving every half-hour, though the next one (*not* cancelled!) came limping in 45 minutes behind schedule. (When you do the math, you then realize that in the time that three trains should have arrived, in fact none had.) Despite there now being a huge mass of impatient travellers on the platform, I managed to sneak into a less-occupied car and settle in. Of course, while my trip north on GNER was made in oppressive heat, now *this* coach was exceedingly cold...average it out and you'd get the perfect temperature, so what do I have to complain about, right? Well, all one needs to hear that sums up the current state of the British rail system, is that they have felt the need to put up posters in certain waiting rooms that outline the penalties for physically abusing the staff. Living in Switzerland certainly spoils me, but it's getting ridiculous there in the UK. OK, diatribe mode off...the important thing is that I *got* there for the Hawkwind concert, and that my friends, is what really counts. Though I had only a brief chance to meet cyberfriends (from mainly the boc-l list) at a nearby pub. Which turned out to no longer be serving food by the time I'd arrived, so I was off again in search of a BSE-free meal somewhere in the vicinity. By this time, I'd already passed in front of the Astoria Theatre once or twice, so no chance of getting lost on the way to the gig. Happily, the will-call attainment of my pre-booked admission went ridiculously smoothly, though it took me a minute or two to snake through the passageways to find the place where one actually enters the theatre proper. That taken care of, I arrived to find that the opener Tarantism had already began their performance. In retrospect it seemed that at most I must have missed only about one song, and really it didn't much matter, as I'd seen them twice at Hawkfest '03 (unlike MQB, they played an identical set, or so it seemed). Here too, I recognized almost every tune they played. Well, ok, they're a decent enough band, reasonably-creative uptempo folksy music with flutes, multiple layers of percussion (which endears them to one Richard Chadwick I imagine, who I found myself suddenly standing next to on the floor just by chance) and a "cheerful personality," if you will. Though because the circus-tent environment at Hawkfest was such a better venue for them, I felt that I wouldn't get much out of it this time 'round, and then spent most of the time wandering around (including up to the top of the massive balcony section) looking for the place which would be the best (both aurally and visually) to view Hawkwind when the time came. Sometimes, this is all warmup bands are good for. But hearing Tarantism again was far from being as painful as a spider bite, and it was nice to see them get the spot on the bill. Next year, I hope to see someone new again get a shot...especially a band I haven't already seen. When Hawkwind came onstage, I had managed to wriggle myself into just about the right spot following my mobile 'soundcheck' (later, I switched to the other side, just for a different perspective), but then I was immediately disheartened when the band 'tore' into one of my favorites "Arrival in Utopia," and it sounded like absolute rubbish. Sigh. The hall is quite large (the huge volume of air in front of that balcony section gives it quite a strong 'hollow' effect) and everything was seemingly lost up into the "rafters." For the first minute or two, I couldn't hear much of anything from Dave Brock (guitar, vocals, or keyboards), but you could tell something extreme was happening back at the sound desk because throughout the song the levels of *everything* kept changing. (In the end, many openers at big arena shows I find are 'throwaways' due to crap sound, so I wish they'd all start with my *least* favorites! Oh well, I've heard "Utopia" live on several earlier tours including '89, so...) So, really, I was overjoyed that the sound/mix soon became not just acceptable, but actually rather good, considering the circumstances. One thing that they never could *quite* get around was the 'diffuse-bass' problem, where Alan Davey's bass guitar really lacked the "punch" that it should have when he hit any particular note. Nothing anyone could do about it, I imagine. It was certainly loud enough, but the definition wasn't quite there...although it also improved later on. OK, so, the new track "Angela Android" came next, with drummer Richard Chadwick taking a lead role, both in delivering the (seemingly low-brow) vocals against a human/machine-hyrbid beat and little else, so it seemed. Oh, yeah, except that one Lene Lovich (who from reports was once quite famous in the UK, but in the states she remained pretty much "undiscovered" so I wouldn't have had a clue who she was if it weren't for the pre-gig announcement of her intended guest appearance) came onstage in a crazy costume, and a hairdo big enough for Carmen Miranda to have considered a watermelon or two. Her vocal coloratura was not so much full of prose as it was useful in the same way as DikMik's so-called "Audio Generator" c. 1973. And actually, I was reminded of the foot pedal that Ron Tree used with Hawkwind not long ago that made his voice artificially shoot into stratospheric frequencies. Lovich appeared again at several stages during the evening's performance, and she fulfilled similar duties each time. I can't say that she did anything to either spoil or greatly enhance the festivities...for me, she was just kinda 'there.' At the gig (welcome surprise) was available the just-finished live CD from last year's Christmas show featuring Arthur Brown (entitled "Spaced Out in London"), and upon hearing that just days later, it was obvious to me that Brown had much more to offer. He was unavailable for this event apparently, but has made some contributions to the new studio recordings. Seemingly everyone's favorite (including mine) "Assault & Battery" came next, followed (naturally) by "The Golden Void," the transition between the two always threatening to make me suffer an emotional breakdown. In a 'good' way, I mean. If hearing it on the album (the best 10-minutes of music history, if you ask me) wasn't enough, then it was the 1989 tour (my first live-Hawkwind, or in fact, space-rock experience) that I always reflect upon when hearing it again. Here was a similar version, but not as long-winded at the end. Instead they segued into the obscure "Where Are They Now?" (you can find it on one of the Weird Tapes CDs...No. 5 I think), which is quite good in its own right. After a bit of instrumental 'noodling,' the first half of the set wrapped up with Bob Calvert's "The Right Stuff" and then a bouncy "Hurry on Sundown" if the former wasn't quite 'classic' enough. To this point, we'd also seen a pair of svelt female dancers in tight-fitting white outfits flanking Alan Davey at center stage. And of course, a lightshow projected onto the usual white screen in the back...here, it didn't really show so well though, as there was an unusually high amount (for a Hawkwind gig anyway) of ambient light on the stage itself...plus, it was really a deep stage, giving Davey almost *too* much room to wander about. Dave Brock then introduced Huw Lloyd-Langton as he entered stage right with his acoustic guitar. Huwy then played a 15-minute solo set featuring some of his compositions from the 1980-83 period. Now, I'd seen Huw both at the Hawkestra event in Brixton (2000) and then again this summer at Hawkfest '03, both times wondering whether would ever be able to play the guitar competently again. And this year, it seemed his overall health was in question. But then, I have also heard the Canterbury live recording (2001), where he sounded like his old self. Well, I won't pretend to know exactly what's going on in Huwy's life...all I can say is that he seems to be back on the right track again, so let's hope he continues to get it together. I wouldn't say his playing was *perfect* at the Astoria, but he looked in good spirits, his voice was strong, and his fingers were once again quick and nimble upon the frets. The versions of "Solitary Mind Games" and "Waiting for Tomorrow" were interesting enough, though limited by the fact that he was out there alone. All in all, my third viewing of HLL in person was the first positive one...I wish he'd come back out on electric for the encore or something, but sadly that didn't happen. As Huw wrapped up (most of the audience hung around for this 'intermission' break), the other four re-emerged (including ever-more-frequent-guest Keith Barton, of Spacehead, on guitar) and rather gently refired their engines with Davey's thoughtful "Wings." I might have preferred his take on Lemmy's "The Watcher" instead, but they'd done that last year, so that's fine by me. "Ejection" saw Davey also handling lead vocals as is normally the case, and although he's never been able to do justice to the song, this version was improved at least by Chadwick filling in the counter-lines of the chorus. Actually, Chadwick did quite a bit of additional vocals throughout the evening, and I think it helped some...his voice is not a thing of beauty perhaps, but he can sing in tune and I quite liked what he contributed. One of my favorite 80s tracks "Heads" came next, Brock delivering Roger Neville-Neil's wonderful lyrics in an appropriately sinister way. The synths and rhythms were slightly different than any previous version, and it seemed that they put in a lot of extra stuff at the end, making it one of the pleasant surprises of the whole performance. What I assume will become a single from the new album, the track "Sunray" was then unleashed...it does seem to have some strong possibilities to reach a wider audience, maybe even moreso than "Right to Decide." And just before the finale, another great move...the tired old "Brainstorm" (and "Silver Machine") was put aside this night, and instead they played the non-album track "Brainbox Pollution." I never thought much of this one in the past, but it here it was much more lively and interesting for some reason. I think Chadwick helped on vocals here too, which was part of the reason. The finale itself was more predictable though, the staple merging of "Assassins of Allah" with the trancey "Space is Their (Palestine)," the one moment of repetitiveness (ok, laziness) we got in the main set. Still, I imagine that those who only see Hawkwind on rare occasion consider it a highlight...I can't say that it hasn't always 'worked' to some degree. The encore started with "Spirit of the Age," which they had done also at Walthamstow 2002 (but sadly wouldn't fit onto the new CD). Anyway, it was nice to hear again and it always gets the crowd going. "Master of the Universe" finished everything off, with the Brock/Barton duo able to put enough guitar sound together to offset Davey's still-boomy bass. As the last riffs were finally abating, the synth intro to the "Welcome to the Future" outtro began from Brock's rig. But, unless my eyes were playing tricks on me, I swear he was forced to scramble up his lyric book to recall how it all started out ("Welcome to the oceans in a labelled can..." etc.). I think I could even see that he first opened it up to an index before then finding the proper page. Finally, just as Davey was beginning to wonder and turned his head around, Bob Calvert's words came forth from the mic and the last climax of Hawkwind's performance thundered forth. Including HLL's acoustic break, nearly two hours long...seemed hard to believe. After the show, there was to be an after-gig party somewhere in the vicinity of the theatre, just as had been organized the previous year. But this time, it hadn't been widely announced, and I didn't find out about it until after I'd arrived in the UK and so I didn't even have my (Hawkwind) passport with me for entry. Like others in similar situation, I knew I could probably have talked my way in, but actually I was already pretty exhausted from the night(s) before and the tubes were still open. So I decided to bag the whole idea and just rode the underground back to Paddington determined to get adequate rest. In the end, I heard that the only Hawkwind member to appear at the party was Martin Griffin! In the final analysis, the event this year was particularly strong given that it was a one-off unlike 2002 (which came at the end of a mini-tour at least). And the theatre was large enough for nearly all who wanted to come, a good 2,000 or more I think. The new tracks and the promise of a new album for 2004 give one good reason to be cautiously optimistic that the Hawkwind spaceship will soon again break into warp speed. All previous predictions of their imminent demise (which started first in, what, 1976?) have proven unfounded. Having seen them now more than 20 times over a period of 15 years, I guess I still think at each and every show perhaps it could be the last for me. And best of all, the band remains to this day anything *but* a tired old dinosaur playing a predictable set of standards without a hint of further glory. (I've seen a number of these in my time.) True, live albums (some from ages past) dominate the recent catalogue output, but even these show creative touches and often total overhauls/rewrites of classic tracks. And you go through the track-listings (and even the lineups!!) and no two are really much alike. The next day after the show, I picked up the newly-released "Love in Space" DVD, recorded seven years ago with Ron Tree on board. Having just seen it now, it strikes me how much that show was completely unique from this one ("Allah/Palestine" aside). And then of course, despite there being too few (studio) albums and tours in between, much has happened (for better or worse) since. That's the sign of a band that never stagnates...and that's of course why Hawkwind continues to feed the legend that it has long since become. (Another thing I picked up in London was Lemmy's autobiography...a great read!...and hopefully he introduced yet a few more to the legend of Hawkwind, and perhaps we'll see a legion of next-gen'ers at the next Hawkwind gigs in 2004.) Ciao z?me...Grakkl (FAA) Setlist - HW: Arrival in Utopia Angela Android Assault and Battery The Golden Void Where Are You Now? Out There We Are (instrumental) The Right Stuff (with Levitation/Paranoia coda) Hurry on Sundown ----------------- Intermission (Huw Lloyd-Langton acoustic) The 5th Second of Forever (intro) Solitary Mind Games Waiting for Tomorrow The 5th Second of Forever (outtro) ----------------- Wings Ejection Heads Sunray Brainbox Pollution Assassins of Allah/Space is Their (Palestine) ----------------- Spirit of the Age Master of the Universe Welcome to the Future From youless at COX.NET Fri Jan 2 17:23:02 2004 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 17:23:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Astoria/MQB Message-ID: Great post Keith, thanks! Steve From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Jan 2 19:20:23 2004 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 01:20:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: Is this the Alex Lifeson we know and love ? 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Stewkey is back on the scene with an all new Nazz lineup, and will be performing at The North Star in Philadelphia on January 9th...See http://www.stewkey.com or check the concert listings at: http://www.heydayonline.net Also performing: New York Humble Pie tribute act 'Four Day Creep' For complete information on The NYC Greg Ridley memorial Concert visit the following sites: 'interactive e-flyer': http://www.spraci.net/events/27838.html Official Greg Ridley website: http://www.GregRidley.com _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Jan 3 00:46:39 2004 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 05:46:39 -0000 Subject: BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY Message-ID: Look, we're finally getting our arses in gear, finding new guitarists, maybe even a real drummer. We're headlining at the National Hillman Imp Rally, which, frankly, will involve 200 pissed up petrol heads who are expecting Dumpy, but they'll get BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY, supported by the Enid (Blyton) influenced ABATTOIR OF ADVENTURE. Hey, it's worth finding out what they do, and if you do, can you tell me where the national convention is please? I think it's sometime in August, but I couldn't swear to that. Cheers, Rich. From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Sat Jan 3 10:08:28 2004 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:08:28 +0000 Subject: HW: Coronation Street In-Reply-To: <200401021000.i02A00d7019851@ns1.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: While being inflicted with a Saturday afternoon episode of said soap opera, it was noted that the participants were 'ead-banging to "Silver Machine", shortly followed by "Ace Of Spades". ChrisW Trivia-Hound Extraordinaire! From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jan 3 17:40:06 2004 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 22:40:06 -0000 Subject: HW: Re: Coronation Street Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Warburton" > While being inflicted with a Saturday afternoon episode of said soap > opera, it was noted that the participants were 'ead-banging to "Silver > Machine", shortly followed by "Ace Of Spades". The person I was renting my accommodation from also told me about this today! Apparently someone also said "That's enough Hawkwind". Wonder who the script writer was for that particular episode 8-) jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jan 3 18:22:58 2004 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 23:22:58 -0000 Subject: HW: Astoria Gig Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" > Iain Ferguson writes: > > > how were the Astoria Police as pleasant as ever ? > > When we went in, they were refusing entry to some guy because they > thought "he looked too drunk". > Certainly I can see that they probably don't get too many drunk people > there when they're charging L3.30 for a measly can of Worthingtons. which is probably why he had already consumed as much as possible before attempting to get into the place. As I recall they were advising that he should try coming back later on when he'd sobered up a bit! I'm also glad to hear that some folk managed to charm (?) their way into the Club after the gig! I agree the flow of the gig was a bit disjointed so the energy that was built up dropped down a level and had to be regained but it was a Festival occasion - a celebration - a time for just doing things without the need to make them perfect! There was loads of energy there as well as some interesting introspection - so it wasn't an all-out intense experience but it didn't need to be. And I was delighted that Huw was looking so recovered - I confess I was very concerned about him last time he appeared and even feared he might not return. Thank goodness he did. And it was absolutely right he appeared in the middle of the set - it gave the band a chance to relax and it meant the *whole* audience was there to hear him - just as it should be. Had he come on at the beginning then folk would have drifted distractingly in and out and perhaps not been ready to pay attention. His was an excellent acoustic set - well played - it merited everyone's full attention and, yeah, I was impressed! Lena Lovich was rather good I thought though with the request, please, that rather than keep on repeating the chorus - endlessly - over and over.... she could just stand back a bit and let the music speak - there are times in Hawkwind when you need vocals and times when you don't - I'm not sure that she'd picked up on the latter. Anyhow - I enjoyed it - and it was a great start to the Festive season! A Happy New Year to all jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Sat Jan 3 18:56:30 2004 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (mark von bargen) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 23:56:30 -0000 Subject: Coronation Street In-Reply-To: <025501c3d24a$a1f05180$22ba193e@jds> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Jill Strobridge Sent: 03 January 2004 22:40 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Re: Coronation Street ----- Earlier Original Message ----- From: "Chris Warburton" > While being inflicted with a Saturday afternoon episode of said soap > opera, it was noted that the participants were 'ead-banging to "Silver > Machine", shortly followed by "Ace Of Spades". The person I was renting my accommodation from also told me about this today! Apparently someone also said "That's enough Hawkwind". Wonder who the script writer was for that particular episode 8-) jill Apparently, earlier on, before the song was played, Les Battersby remarked that "this is a great pub, its got Hawkwind on the juke box". Somebody in Coronation Street land cares. BTW Corrie also features William Roache the Stonehenge visiting Arch Druid who plays the Ken Barlow character as featured in HW comedy chants on the top 10 of prog telly programme. mark From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sat Jan 3 14:56:32 2004 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 20:56:32 +0100 Subject: Coronation Street Message-ID: Guess,nobody taped that episode? Otherwise,e-mail me greetings filip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 11:40 PM Subject: HW: Re: Coronation Street > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Warburton" > > > While being inflicted with a Saturday afternoon episode of said soap > > opera, it was noted that the participants were 'ead-banging to "Silver > > Machine", shortly followed by "Ace Of Spades". > > The person I was renting my accommodation from also told me about this > today! Apparently someone also said "That's enough Hawkwind". Wonder > who the script writer was for that particular episode 8-) > > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jan 4 07:09:42 2004 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 07:09:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Reviews & Radio Shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (January 4, 2004): HAPPY NEW YEAR! We've just uploaded new CD reviews, plus new radio shows from The Electronic Cottage (show #4), Alchemical Radio (show #53), and The Atomic Bongload (show #4). We've got an On Trial concert review, plus CD reviews of the Daze of the Underground Hawkwind tribute, Brainticket, Arnold Mathes, Mittelwinternacht ?71, prpGROUP, Steve Lawson & Theo Travis, Paradigm 9, Superheaven The Action, Amy Blaschke, Exitmusique, Guignol, Juggernaut, Pat O'Keefe/Jason Stanyek/Scott Walton/Glen Whitehead, Gustavo Aguilar, Volker Kriegel, Albert Mangelsdorff, Funkmeister G, and Bret Hart. Thanks to Albert Pollard, Keith Henderson, Frank Gingeleit, Jeff Fitzgerald and Mike Reed for their contributions. Access all the new reviews from our What's New page at http://www.aural-innovations.com/main/whatsnew.html New Electronic Cottage (show #4), Alchemical Radio (show #53) and Atomic Bongload (show #4) shows. You can go directly to the Radio Shows page at http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html The Electronic Cottage (show #4) Brainticket - "Life's Mirror" (from Alchemic Universe) Superheaven - "Prowl" (from Superheaven) Cousin Silas - "Window Spinnerets" (from Portraits & Peelings) Alien Planetscapes - "Plates 56 & 43" (from Bootleg #6: Problems Of The 21st Century) Aural Perception - "QT" (from Aural Perception) Radio Free Clear Light - untitled track 4 (from Treading Lightly Against The Tide) Edward Artemiev - "Solaris - Ill" (from Solaris, The Mirror, Stalker) Exitmusique - "The Way It Should Be" (from 4-track CDEP) Packi - "Pick Up the Phone" (from Pamb) Larry Kucharz - "Red Wash No6" (from Ambient Red Washes) Mittelwinternacht ?71 - "Die Pulsar Kommt" (from Mittelwinternacht ?71) The Atomic Bongload (show #4) Nebula - "Strange Human" (from Atomic Ritual) Spirit Caravan - "Fang" (from The Last Embrace) Jupiter Jefferson - "Ice House" (from Jupiter Jefferson) The Meads Of Asphodel - "Utopia" (from Daze Of The Underground: A Tribute To Hawkwind) Hezzakya - "Alone In Texas" (from Promo 2003) Hezzakya - "Weapon" (from Promo 2003) Helios Creed - "On The Dark Side Of The Sun" (from On The Dark Side Of The Sun) Trigon - "Zensation" (from Artrock Festival Live 2003) The Cooters - "Soul Food" (from The Moon Will Rise Again) Shevel Knievel - "As It Is In The Beginning So Shall It Be In The End" (from Bull Wevel) Hellblock 6 - "Sunday" (from Nuclear Age) Pennsylvania Connection - "Heavy Days" (from Genrecide Worldeater Compilation) Northern Lights - "Bio-Vac" (from Erode + Disappear) Alchemical Radio (show #50) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends Terri~B and The Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label and features some of the best Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Metal, and adventurous Pop that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions. 7th Order - "The Lake Of Memory" The Rick Ray Band - "Death Of The Swineherd" DTR (Downtown Rhetoric) - "Irony" Leandra Hill - "Somewhere In Between" DJ Monkey - "U-Boat" Mercury Boy - "It's All Trash" The Insane Picnic - "Devastation Basement" Don Campau & Eric Wallack - "Salt Of The Earth" Radium 88 - "Worlds Collide" The Forresters - "Rescue Me" Troy Lukarrila - "Shy Boy" Taba - "Dreamland" ST37 - "You'll Die In A Car Crash" Steppin In It - "The Lodge" Dieter Bornzero Bornshlegal - "Wonder" Patrick Porter - "Cigarette Lighter Finder" Nick Toone - "The Forest Of Brethill" http://Aural-Innovations.com From petertrance at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 5 04:52:52 2004 From: petertrance at HOTMAIL.COM (PETER WILKINSON) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:52:52 +0000 Subject: HAWKFEST 2004 -SO SOON! Message-ID: Colin, Kris etc, any rumours re hawkfest 2004 e.g. is it on? etc. your chance to start my year off great witrh a 'yes' Peter Oh happy new year folks >From: Colin J Allen >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW:Astoria >Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:12:01 -0000 > >3D electronic chess!!! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sam K" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 6:19 AM >Subject: HW:Astoria > > > > Excellent gig, even with Dave fixing his Electronic Chess half way >through?!? :-) And, as usual, after Hawkwind....Reality Sucks! > > > > Roll on the next gig. > > > > Sam K > > _________________________________________________________________ Send a funky Messenger Christmas card http://www.msn.co.uk/christmascard From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Mon Jan 5 07:00:24 2004 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 12:00:24 -0000 Subject: HW: Re: Coronation Street Message-ID: >Apparently, earlier on, before the song was played, Les Battersby remarked >that "this is a great pub, its got Hawkwind on the juke box". >Somebody in Coronation Street land cares. But Les Battersby is the 'idiot' on the street...getting a commendation from him is like 'bad press'. (similar to the use of motorcycling on TV in the 70's & 80's being used to represent the thieves/bad boys of society (everytime you saw one he was robbing old ladies.. not helping them across the road). On that point did anyone catch the documentary on B2 last night on the Hell's Angels - 'a social group interested in the mechanics of the Harley Davison'!) Happy New Year Folks Maxine Maxine From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Mon Jan 5 14:14:51 2004 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (HawkFan) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:14:51 -0000 Subject: Guess the Hawkwind track - the answers In-Reply-To: <000001c3d063$e5da6220$8080a8c0@rat2> Message-ID: Ok there were a few typos in there. Don't blame me, I didn't write it ;-) JR abd Abducted am Adjust Me tai Aerospace Inferno aia Alien (I Am) aod Angels of Death av Angel Voices aylym Are You Losing Your Mind aiu Arrival in Utopia aab Assault and Battery ta The Awakening bitb Back in the Box by Be Yourself bmu Beam Me Up btf Behind the Face bc Black Corridor bes Black Elk Speaks bs Blue Skin btg Born to Go bp Brainbox Pollution br Brainstorm bioh Bring It On Home cha The Changing cots Children of the Sun cym Choose Your Masques cl Coded Languages co Confrontation tcom The Curse of Man dol Damage of Life da Damnation Alley dv Dangerous Visions dl The Dark Lords dv Dangerous Visions dotu Days of the Underground dgh Dead God's Homecoming dwtd Dealin' with the Devil dt Death Trap dm The Demented Man de The Demise di Disintegration dttn Down through the Night df Dragons and Fables ds Dragon Song dc Dreaming City dw Dream Worker dre Dreamers dr D-Rider dot Dust of Time ec Earth Calling ea Earthed to the Ground e Ejection el Elric the Enchanter ete2 Elric the Enchanter 5-4 5/4 fa Fable of a Failed Race f451 Fahrenheit 451 foec Fall of Earth City fe Festivals fsof Fifth Second of Forever flom First Landing on Medusa tfd Flying Doctor ff Free Fall tgv The Golden Void ge Good Evening gfd Green Finned Demon his Hassan I Sabha hw Hawkwind h Heads hr High Rise htc Hi Tech Cities hod Horn of Destiny hos Hurry On Sundown im Images in Infinity ite In the Egg itr Into the Realms ise It's So Easy jos Jack of Shadows tjatg Joker at the Gate kc Kerb Crawler kos Kings of Speed le Levitation li Lighthouse loake Living on a Knife Edge litf Looking in the Future lol Lord of Light loc Lords of Chaos lc Lost Chances lj Lost Johnny lis Love In Space lsd L.S.D. mag Magnu mwyc Make What You Can moc Mark of Cain motu Master of the Universe mom Messengers of Morpheus mic Micro Man moi Mirror of Illusion m Moonglum mc Motherless Children mo Motorhead mo-c Motorway City n1 Narration I n2 Narration II ng Needle Gun ns Neon Skyline nj New Jerusalem noth Night of the Hawk nfacp Note From a Cold Planet nd Nuclear Drive nt Nuclear Toy otc On the Case too The Only Ones otddoacwk (Only) The Dead Dreams Of The oa Orgone Accumulator osc Oscillations oots Out of the Shadows ott Over the Top pa Paradox tpol The Phenomenon of Luminosity py Pressing You pr Processed psi Psi Power pw Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear in Smo psyc Psychosonia pxr5 PXR5 qsc Quark, Strangeness and Charm rm Reefer Madness trs The Right Stuff rob Robot rp Rocky Paths rttbb Running Through the Backbrain sk The Sea King s Starflight sa Social Alliance sbs Seven By Seven sd Sex Dreams sditn Shot Down in the Night sm Silver Machine soatt Sleep of a Thousand Tears sa Sonic Attack smg Solitary Mind Games sots Song of the Swords sid Space is Deep st Space Travellers sota Spirit of the Age ss Sputnik Stan sote Standing on the Edge sc Star Cannibal sof Streets of Fear smop Sweet Mistress of Pain so Sweet Obsession sote Sword of the East sw Steppenwolf tfy 25 Years ts Ten Seconds of Forever tj The Journey trs The Right Stuff twbhh The Wizard Blew His Horn tgyn They've Got Your Number wttf This Future twltwt Time We Left (This World today) tb To Be tm Transdimensional Man tr Treadmill tvs TV Suicide tai (The) Aerospaceage Inferno ta The Awakening cha (The) Changing tcom (The) Curse of Man tcotbs (The) Chronicle of the Black Sword dl (The) Dark Lords dm (The) Demented Man tfd (The) Flying Doctor tgv (The) Golden Void tjatg (The) Joker at the Gate too (The) Only Ones tpol (The) Phenomenon of Luminosity sk (The) Sea King watch (The) Watcher usom Uncle Sam's on Mars ug Urban Guerrilla u84 Utopia '84 v10 Valium Ten votw Virgin of the World tgv Void of Golden Light wft Waiting for Tomorrow woteot Warrior on the Edge of Time w Warriors w Wings w The Watcher wos Wastelands of Sleep wtgg Watching the Grass Grow wttws We Took the Wrong Step ww Web Weaver wttf Welcome to the Future wtggt When the Going Gets Tough wgwtw Who's Gonna Win the War twbhh The Wizard Blew His Horn x Xenomorph ybmu You Burn Me Up ykyod You Know You're Only Dreaming ybbi You'd Better Believe It z Zarozinia -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of HawkFan Sent: 01 January 2004 12:37 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Guess the Hawkwind track A diversion for those (like me) with a New Years day hangover. The following are acronyms of Hawkwind tracks. Do you know the track? I got about half of them straight off, but some of the tracks from later albums I had to give up on. No prizes, and I'm not going to mark your efforts! I'll post the list in a day or two. Note that where tracks start with "The" it is sometimes but not always omitted. JR From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Mon Jan 5 15:07:07 2004 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 13:07:07 -0700 Subject: Off: The Kinks' Davies Shot in New Orleans Message-ID: The Kinks' Davies Shot in New Orleans 1 hour, 39 minutes ago Add U.S. National - Reuters to My Yahoo! NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - Ray Davies, the lead singer of the British rock group The Kinks, was released from the hospital on Monday after being shot in the leg while chasing a mugger. AP Photo Reuters Slideshow: Ray Davies Davies, 59, was walking with a woman in the city's French Quarter Sunday evening when the shooting occurred, police said. "Two men approached and had taken the woman's purse. He ran after them and was wounded in the right thigh," police spokesman Marlin Defillo told Reuters. Police have arrested one suspect in the shooting and are searching for the second. Part of the "British Invasion" of the 1960s, the Kinks shot to fame with "You Really Got Me" from their debut album in 1964. The band also hit the pop music charts with "All Day and All of the Night" later that year and the major hit "Lola." Davies was on the 2004 New Year's honors list, and named a Commander of the Order of the British Empire. It ranks below the knighthoods earlier given to Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger and Elton John. From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Jan 5 15:42:47 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chris Dove) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:42:47 -0500 Subject: when oh when Message-ID: When will the band ever get round to re-releasing the Charisma and Warrior CDs, also looking forward to Hawkfest 2004, does anyone out there also dig PXR1 suggest you get hold of the Alien nation CD asap!! From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 6 09:32:19 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:32:19 -0500 Subject: HW: Spacehead, Litmus and Huw - 9th January Message-ID: Spacehead, featuring special guest guitarist Huw Lloyd-Langton, plus Litmus will be playing at: The Standard Music Venue, 1 Blackhorse Lane, London. E17 6DS Nearest tube: Blackhorse Road (Victoria Line) Price: ?6.00 Expect to hear some Hawkwind classics played by two Hawkwind guitarists. Probably the best space-rock gig in January 2004. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 6 12:46:51 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:46:51 GMT Subject: The Middle Earth Monitor Message-ID: The Counsel of Rivendell today was disrupted by many hundreds of protestors who'd travelled to boycott the proceedings. Reports are that the main item on the Council agenda was The One Ring and a plan for the crack Fellowship of the Ring to invade Mordor and destroy it. "They can't destroy it" protested one dwarf "it's part of our heritage. This is nothing but institutional barbarism." Protestors outside were similarly opposed to the rumoured plan. "Of course Orcs are a bit aggressive in and around Mordor." one elf stated, "It's just their culture." Various single-issue groups had travelled large distances to attend the protest, including a group campaigning for a disabled ramp over Cirith Ungol. "The steps are totally unsuitable for our wheeled brethren" complained a one-legged orc, "These people fought for their countries and are entitled to take a more active part in their communities." Meanwhile a large army of orcs which had recently been intercepted on the plains outside Minas Tirith complained that their freedom to travel had been abridged. "These human claims of aggression are utterly unfounded" a spokesman said. "Sure, a few of us may have had one too many pints of Foggy Bottom and gotten a bit excitable but we're just on our way to see our favourite band play the Palace at Minas Tirith." Our reporters can indeed confirm that a popular underground band is playing there tomorrow: a band called Orcwind. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 6 12:47:40 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:47:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Sad Person Message-ID: Hi, We just received this from some sad person: "----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] Spacehead, Litmus and Huw >"come and see two HAWKWIND guitarists?" do we detect a whiff of someone trading off the HAWKWIND name for profit? (again !) let's see... who is it? ah. Colin Allen. I thought Colin was against all that?... or is it all just a smokescreen, a means to an end???? profit profit profit from the 'winging old git'" In answer to this sad and deluded person, I would make the following comments: 1. The only people making any money out of this are the musicians and the venue. Do you have a problem with them earning money for their work? 2. I will lose about ?200 on this gig. We are putting on the best gig that we can manage in order to make it a great night for the fans (which you are obviously not) and for the musicians. Given the size of both the market and the venue, there is no way that it can make a profit. 3. If you are going to attack me, try to get both your facts and your quotations right. Colin From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 6 12:50:10 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:50:10 GMT Subject: HW: Astoria (FAO Mike Holmes) In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:23:05 -0000 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > Hi Mike, > > Good to see you on the way out of the Astoria - don't suppose you remembered > who it was who was looking for me did you? Errrr, now I don't even remember that someone was looking for you. FoFP From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 6 12:57:38 2004 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:57:38 -0000 Subject: The Middle Earth Monitor Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" > > Meanwhile a large army of orcs which had recently been intercepted on > the plains outside Minas Tirith complained that their freedom to travel > had been abridged. "These human claims of aggression are utterly > unfounded" a spokesman said. "Sure, a few of us may have had one too > many pints of Foggy Bottom and gotten a bit excitable but we're just on > our way to see our favourite band play the Palace at Minas Tirith." > > Our reporters can indeed confirm that a popular underground band is > playing there tomorrow: a band called Orcwind. "Let us in - we're the hard-core fans" From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Tue Jan 6 12:40:29 2004 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:40:29 +0100 Subject: Sad Person Message-ID: Rightly said Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: HW: Sad Person Hi, We just received this from some sad person: "----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] Spacehead, Litmus and Huw >"come and see two HAWKWIND guitarists?" do we detect a whiff of someone trading off the HAWKWIND name for profit? (again !) let's see... who is it? ah. Colin Allen. I thought Colin was against all that?... or is it all just a smokescreen, a means to an end???? profit profit profit from the 'winging old git'" In answer to this sad and deluded person, I would make the following comments: 1. The only people making any money out of this are the musicians and the venue. Do you have a problem with them earning money for their work? 2. I will lose about ?200 on this gig. We are putting on the best gig that we can manage in order to make it a great night for the fans (which you are obviously not) and for the musicians. Given the size of both the market and the venue, there is no way that it can make a profit. 3. If you are going to attack me, try to get both your facts and your quotations right. Colin From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Jan 7 12:08:42 2004 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:08:42 +0000 Subject: gig reminders: Stewkey's Nazz in Philly 1/9 & with OEBs in NYC 2/21 Message-ID: In case you don't already know, The OEBs will be performing a memorial concert for Greg Ridley of Humble Pie & Spooky Tooth in New York City, Saturday February 21, 2004. Joining the band that evening will be special guest vocalist Stewkey Antoni, 'The voice of The Nazz'. Stewkey is back on the scene with an all new Nazz lineup, and will be performing at The North Star in Philadelphia on January 9th...See http://www.stewkey.com or check the concert listings at: http://www.heydayonline.net Also performing: New York Humble Pie tribute act 'Four Day Creep' For complete information on The NYC Greg Ridley memorial Concert visit the following sites: 'interactive e-flyer': http://www.spraci.net/events/27838.html Official Greg Ridley website: http://www.GregRidley.com _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy a special introductory offer for dial-up Internet access ? limited time only! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 9 05:51:49 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:51:49 GMT Subject: test Message-ID: 1,2 1,2 1,2 From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Jan 9 05:59:39 2004 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:59:39 +0000 Subject: test In-Reply-To: <200401091051.i09ApntP019549@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: T,P T,P T,P 3,4 3,4 1,1,1,1,1 ch, ch, ch M Holmes wrote: > 1,2 1,2 1,2 > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 9 06:46:41 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:46:41 GMT Subject: test In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:59:39 +0000 Message-ID: Iain Ferguson writes: > T,P T,P T,P > > 3,4 3,4 > > 1,1,1,1,1 > > ch, ch, ch A little bit up on the bass monitor... Sorry, I'd just had so little mail I thought the list must be broken. So, there's a book called "The Legend of Hawkwind" being sold on Ebay... FoFP From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 9 21:07:55 2004 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:07:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: Killing Joke- Astoria gig online Message-ID: http://www.joker-place.net/audio/audio_index.html click on "Live gigs" Nick From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Jan 9 23:38:34 2004 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 04:38:34 +0000 Subject: Off: Pink Pompeii DVD Message-ID: Hi ya, I've had the Pink Floyd DVD a while and watched the main title a few times, that being the directors cut. Now I am watching for first time the original version (on same dvd) and its soooo much better!!!!! For all the cga and so, the directors cut just don't do the same thing for me. The original rocks, dig that dog! Wish my mutts could sing like that, mind I play them a Del Detmar bootleg and they sing like hell.... Howling to remove themselves from what they know to be 15 minuites of one chord with reverb (only after an hour of other noises designed to irritate mutts) Yea well, original version excellent - directors cut just don't get me there at all. Thank what/who ever they put the original version on the dvd! Its a classic, its art, and don't ever mess with classic art cause ya can't better perfection. The original Pompeii is a perfect vision. Whatever happened in the directors cut seems to have removed all emotion and feeling from the film. Its not just the inclusion of interviews that destroys the feeling, the computer generated animation is totally out of place, you don't notice how out of place till you see the original again. Directors cut is desecration ov sacred temple of (All {alchemical - not all}) chemical influences. Man that dog can sing the blues better than any of mine!!! Chris From michaeldaniel at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jan 10 04:39:37 2004 From: michaeldaniel at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Michael Daniel) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 04:39:37 -0500 Subject: Off: Pink Pompeii DVD/ why cant the Hawks..... Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 04:38:34 +0000, chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET wrote: >Hi ya, > >I've had the Pink Floyd DVD a while and watched the main title a few >times, that being the directors cut. > >Now I am watching for first time the original version (on same dvd) and >its soooo much better!!!!! For all the cga and so, the directors cut >just don't do the same thing for me. The original rocks, dig that dog! >Wish my mutts could sing like that, mind I play them a Del Detmar >bootleg and they sing like hell.... Howling to remove themselves from >what they know to be 15 minuites of one chord with reverb (only after an >hour of other noises designed to irritate mutts) > >Yea well, original version excellent - directors cut just don't get me >there at all. Thank what/who ever they put the original version on the >dvd! Its a classic, its art, and don't ever mess with classic art cause >ya can't better perfection. The original Pompeii is a perfect vision. > Whatever happened in the directors cut seems to have removed all >emotion and feeling from the film. Its not just the inclusion of >interviews that destroys the feeling, the computer generated animation >is totally out of place, you don't notice how out of place till you see >the original again. > >Directors cut is desecration ov sacred temple of (All {alchemical - not >all}) chemical influences. > >Man that dog can sing the blues better than any of mine!!! > >Chris I know what you mean..... The camera work and Adrian Mabens original cut is amazing..... I still get goosepimples (as much for the music as for the camera work) on that last instrumental part of Echoes part one.... Why cant the Hawks get something along the lines of the original cut? I remember sitting down with my VHS of Love In Space and thinking "great- a decent recording of a great tour"...and then just as Death Trap gets going it starts going into a sort of slow motion cutting technique....loses all the urgency of the light show created in those blistering opening shots.....lets hope the new DVD is just a good straightforward representation of the gig.Its along the same lines as what makes the COTBS video so annoying to watch.... Oh well fingers crossed! From michaeldaniel at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jan 10 04:48:31 2004 From: michaeldaniel at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Michael Daniel) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 04:48:31 -0500 Subject: HW : COLLECTORS CLUB... Message-ID: hi all! Ive been lurking for a while and generally just reading....great stuff! but here you go, Ive arrived....Hello and all the best to you all! Anyway...the collectors club-are there any further developements on this? Is it still going ahead? Any news on the forthcoming DVD's? Look forward to chatting to you all soon! Mick Liverpool From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jan 10 12:38:05 2004 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:38:05 +0800 Subject: Pink Pompeii DVD Message-ID: Hi all The disappointing thing with the Director's cut of Pompeii is that the CGI space footage is mostly taken from the BBC's Planets series, so it's not missing footage reinstated, or even new footage specifically for the Director's cut. I do like the other actual rare footage though, such as the extra interviews. I know that the movie has been released now 3 times, the 2nd being with the Dark Side of the Moon footage, which is the first version I saw, & liked the most (although I prefer pre-Dark Side Floyd best). William ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:38 PM Subject: Off: Pink Pompeii DVD > Hi ya, > > I've had the Pink Floyd DVD a while and watched the main title a few > times, that being the directors cut. > > Now I am watching for first time the original version (on same dvd) and > its soooo much better!!!!! For all the cga and so, the directors cut > just don't do the same thing for me. The original rocks, dig that dog! > Wish my mutts could sing like that, mind I play them a Del Detmar > bootleg and they sing like hell.... Howling to remove themselves from > what they know to be 15 minuites of one chord with reverb (only after an > hour of other noises designed to irritate mutts) > > Yea well, original version excellent - directors cut just don't get me > there at all. Thank what/who ever they put the original version on the > dvd! Its a classic, its art, and don't ever mess with classic art cause > ya can't better perfection. The original Pompeii is a perfect vision. > Whatever happened in the directors cut seems to have removed all > emotion and feeling from the film. Its not just the inclusion of > interviews that destroys the feeling, the computer generated animation > is totally out of place, you don't notice how out of place till you see > the original again. > > Directors cut is desecration ov sacred temple of (All {alchemical - not > all}) chemical influences. > > Man that dog can sing the blues better than any of mine!!! > > Chris > > > __________ NOD32 1.583 (20031219) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. > http://www.nod32.com > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jan 10 12:41:51 2004 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:41:51 +0800 Subject: Off: Pink Pompeii DVD/ why cant the Hawks..... Message-ID: > Why cant the Hawks get something along the lines of the original cut? > I remember sitting down with my VHS of Love In Space and thinking "great- > a decent recording of a great tour"...and then just as Death Trap gets going > it starts going into a sort of slow motion cutting technique....loses all > the urgency of the light show created in those blistering opening > shots.....lets hope the new DVD is just a good straightforward > representation of the gig.Its along the same lines as what makes the COTBS > video so annoying to watch.... > > Oh well fingers crossed! The Love in Space DVD is just the same as the VHS, however the sound & picture quality is far, far superior (both of which were very bad on the VHS). William From youless at COX.NET Sat Jan 10 19:18:09 2004 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:18:09 -0500 Subject: Off: Pink Pompeii DVD/ why cant the Hawks..... Message-ID: I have to agree, Mick. Last night I watched the Ozric's "Live At The Pongmasters Ball" DVD and it's just straight footage of the band playing live, 99% of the time - what I'm hoping the Hawkfest 2003 DVD will be. Plus the Ozrics' effort has an additional "documentary" section consisting of cursory interviews with band members, backstage & soundcheck footage, and cameo appearances by fans queueing to get into the gig. A Hawkwind version of this would be excellent! Steve -------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 04:39:37 -0500, Michael Daniel wrote: Why cant the Hawks get something along the lines of the original cut? I remember sitting down with my VHS of Love In Space and thinking "great- a decent recording of a great tour"...and then just as Death Trap gets going it starts going into a sort of slow motion cutting technique....loses all the urgency of the light show created in those blistering opening shots.....lets hope the new DVD is just a good straightforward representation of the gig.Its along the same lines as what makes the COTBS video so annoying to watch.... Oh well fingers crossed! From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Jan 10 21:30:53 2004 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:30:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New SPACE ROCK, Alchemical Radio & Drool Trough shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (January 11, 2004): We've just uploaded new radio shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #96), Alchemical Radio (show #54), and Drool Trough (show #3). You can go directly to the Radio Shows page at http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #96) Chief Mart's - "B?tschky" (from Morning Maniac Music) Scattered Planets - "Das Andere Idyl" (from Andromeda Keg Party) Helios Creed - "The Eagle" (from On The Dark Side Of The Sun) prpGROUP - "Dinky Little Rings" (from Penfruit) Exit Terra - "A Mother's Message" (from The Love Of God Goes) Soular System - "Big Bang (extended version)" (from Big Bang) Shiva Shakti - "Dolphin Dreaming" (from Cosmic Surfer) Coochie's Bream - "Canned Flutes" (from Coochie's Bream) Blackloud - "Artificial Light" (from 6th 6th 6th) Breathe Stone - "Funeral Masque, Funeral Mask" (from Hex Thistle) Stone Breath - "Secrets Bound In Skin" (from The Silver Skein Unwound) Jupiter Jefferson - "Freezing" (from Jupiter Jefferson) Alchemical Radio (show #54) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends Terri~B and The Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label and features some of the best Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Metal, and adventurous Pop that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions. The Forresters - Are You Ready Nick Toone - Reflected Sounds Of Underground Spirits Root Deco - Shallow Man Don Campau & Eric Wallack - Wrong Turn Blue Cheer - Parchment Farm Arthur's Dream - Starvation Flight 09 - The Absolution Famous Last Words - Lullaby Oneiria - Variations Garry Chaplin - Everybody Knows I'm Crazy Peter Lacey - Anderida Jelinek Horst Attila - Train Fran Gray - In Your Room Mystery Juice - Cursed With Good Fortune Gamma Ray - All Of The Damned Drool Trough (show #3) Drool Trough is an all genres show featuring all kinds of cool music from the underground. Anything is game for Drool Trough, and from one track to the next you will hear completely different sounds and styles, all from homemade musicians and teeny weeny but ultra fiesty labels. Les Slow Slushy Boys - "Slush Puppy" (from Slush Puppy 7" single) Book Of Shadows - "Free" (from Hanged Man) 31 Knots - "No Sound" (from It Was High Time To Escape) Superczar - "Reality Aroused" (from 6 Lives) The Stoneage Hearts - "Suzie" (from Suzie 7" single) Bret Hart - "Godot Won't Show (So Go)" (from Malaysia Tamed) The Iditarod - "Darkness, Darkness" (from Yuletide) Syzygy - "Industryopolis" (from The Allegory Of Light) Coochie's Bream - "Night Tripping Canary" (from Coochie's Bream) The Creatures Of The Golden Dawn - "Blood From A Stone" (from Blood From A Stone 7" single) prpGROUP - "Electraumatic" (from Snib) Census Of Hallucinations - "War Is Not The Way" (from The Eighth Dwarf) Joshua Charles - "Sloppy Poli" (from A Positive Flow) Patrick Porter - "Cordwood & Spark" (from Maybe Waltz) Tae Meyulks - "Big Hookup" (from Tae Meyulks) The Embrooks - "Back In My Mind" (from Back In My Mind 7" single) Curlee Wurlee - "SOS Mesdemoiselles" (from SOS Mesdemoiselles 7" single) Divertigo - "Peril" (from Gentle Chaos) http://Aural-Innovations.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jan 11 14:13:21 2004 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:13:21 +0000 Subject: Album out? In-Reply-To: <003401c3981c$cf41ad40$883dfea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Colin J Allen wrote: > Just to reiterate a point: > > QS&C, WOTEOT and ASAM have NOT been rereleased and they are not scheduled to > be rereleased. If and when they are scheduled for rerelease, you will read > about it on Mission Control. The question that bugs me about this is why on earth Rob Ayling keeps thinking this is going to happen so much that he goes to the bother of updating the website and issuing publicity and so on. Who's telling him it's going to happen? Or alternatively, who keeps pulling the plug and why doesn't he get the message? Yours, Jon ObCD: The Dwarves - _Thank Heaven For Little Girls/Sugarfix_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Jan 11 18:10:17 2004 From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (Mark Storer) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:10:17 -0000 Subject: Album out? Message-ID: Hi Jon, Why do you seem to be stuck in a 3-month timewarp? 'Spose we might find out in April!! Never mind... Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: Re: Album out? > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Colin J Allen wrote: > > > Just to reiterate a point: > > > > QS&C, WOTEOT and ASAM have NOT been rereleased and they are not scheduled to > > be rereleased. If and when they are scheduled for rerelease, you will read > > about it on Mission Control. > > The question that bugs me about this is why on earth Rob Ayling > keeps thinking this is going to happen so much that he goes to the bother > of updating the website and issuing publicity and so on. Who's telling him > it's going to happen? Or alternatively, who keeps pulling the plug and why > doesn't he get the message? > > > > Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: The Dwarves - _Thank Heaven For Little Girls/Sugarfix_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk > "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, > So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." > (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 13 07:19:14 2004 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:19:14 +0000 Subject: OFF: Damo Suzuki, Acid Mothers Gong In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Nick Medford wrote: > The Acid Mothers Gong gig seems to have created quite a stir online- the > Gong forum at www.planetgong.co.uk is heaving with (mostly very negative) > comments about it, although a couple of people there seem to have been as > excited as I was. The forum on the AMT site also has a lot of comments- > overwhelmingly positive! > > I fear this says something about the relative open-mindedness of the two > bands' followings. > > Amazing how conservative these hippies become when they get old... The last mailout I got from Jonny de GAS says that the forthcoming Gong album is going to be entitled _Acidmotherhood__, so I'm guessing those hippies are going to get something to contend with! Looking forward to it myself, unless Farflung do get going again that's as close to the music I'd like not to have to try and make up in my head as there's going to be... Yours, Jon (still in the timewarp) -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 13 07:30:27 2004 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:30:27 +0000 Subject: Exeter 25th October In-Reply-To: <000501c3a06f$6604f200$6601a8c0@MAJKA> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, John Majka wrote: > In general I'm pretty cautious about being in the front at any show just > because it tends to be the most physically dangerous place to be. Granted, > Hawkwind has a tendency to draw a somwhat more sedate audience such that I > don't really expect a "pit" to develop, but I've had uniformly bad > experiences at the front. This opinion may be unduly influenced by a single > person who seems inevitably toshow up at all Chicago area HW shows, go to > the front, and generally cause trouble. I'm sure others probably remember > this person as well. I particularly remember in 1995 at the Park West, > standing right in front of the stage while this guy shouted and whistled at > maximum volume pretty much nonstop for the entire show, to the annoyance of > everyone nearby. He was flailing around as well, knocking into people, and > at some point said to me, "You don't look like you're having fun," and he > grabbed my arms and raised them over my head and flailed them around against > my will for probably ten minutes... other people got similar treatment. I > remember the same character right next to me at the Strange Daze 1998 show > where all the same behavior ensued, except this time people were more pissed > off and would give him a good shove any time he got too close. Of course > this precipitated some minor fighting and eventually the guy was seemingly > removed. At the same show it seemed like fans were extraordinarily > territorial as well. At one point when I was knocked into by the above > mentioned fellow, I was jostled two feet to my left where the gentleman > behind me took my shoulder and informed me that he had been standing at the > front of the stage for hours waiting for Hawkwind and wasn't going to have > his spot taken by a newcomer! As if I hadn't been there for hours as > well... *sigh* it was very much a "can't win" situation. In general, I've > found that it isn't necessarily the most hardcore fans one finds at the > front... it's mainly the most aggressive ones. Mainly these days I don't > even bother troubling myself but just try to get a good view in a > comfortable area. In some ways the issue is reminiscent of many punk/indie > rock bands I've seen. All the scenesters/mohawk kids etc gravitate toward > the front, while the fans of the band are lurking shyly somewhere near the > back. A sad state of affairs. That sounds like a thing I see at gigs other than Hawkwind for the most part. This time (the Christmas party) there was one very drunk guy who suddenly got by the techno and shouted "COME ON! LET'S GO F***ING CRAZY!" at everyone around him for ten minutes or so, but he didn't actually interfere with anyone except the friend he was with and his enthusiasm was difficult to dismiss. By and large, I find that on those rare and unpredictable occasions when a Hawkwind gig generates a mosh, if you can *get* right to the front, you'll find an impenetrable wall of forty-something bikers there, and if you can get among you'll be safe enough. Bikers being the unreformed creatures they are, they'll make room for a girl but not for the likes of me by and large, but no moshers will shift them... Yours, Jon ObLP: My Dog Popper - _668: Neighbour of the Beast_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 13 09:18:53 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:18:53 GMT Subject: Exeter 25th October In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:30:27 +0000 Message-ID: Jon Jarrett writes: > Bikers being the unreformed creatures they are ObTV: "Just members of a Harley Davidson appreciation society" FoFP From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 13 09:35:06 2004 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:35:06 +0000 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Last ten things through my stereo: My Dog Popper - _668 Neighbour of the Beast_ (borrowed Canadian 80s comedy hardcore, fabulous despite all those things) The Bevis Frond - _Miasma_ (needs no introduction surely) Monster Magnet - _Powertrip_ Hawkwind - _Alien4_ v/a - _Subculture Vol. 2_ (a German underground compilation I bought (and was playing for the Electric Orange tracks: pretty ropey) The Fall - _The Collection_ (comp. of the early Rough Trade stuff, has considerable blanga value for punk) Porcupine Tree - _Recordings_ Hawkwind - _Astounding Sounds Amazing Music_ Hawkwind - _Warrior on the Edge of Time_ Black Sabbath - _Technical Ecstasy_ Steely Dan - _Countdown to Ecstasy_ (no relation) And if you don't count the Hawkwind that's only seven so I'll also include: Dire Straits - _Love Over Gold_ (trying to remember why I used to like it; didn't succeed) Cream - _The Best Of_ The Lovegods - _Give Me a New God This One Is Broken_ (Brighton-based sort-of-folk group with a truly amazing and also gorgeous singer) Looking at that, it mostly strikes me that I haven't been listening to music here very much lately, that's more than a week's worth and doesn't really touch the more characteristic parts of my collection. Oh well, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Jan 13 09:46:06 2004 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:46:06 +0000 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MMmmm last 10 records on the Stereo time. it must be quiet again The Cure - Faith The Cure - 3 imaginary boys The Who - My generation the 2nd disk ( remastered version, with an absolutelty unbeliveable 2nd disk that comes with it, by far the best recordings of the who ever, plus a manic "leaving here" The Kinks - a collection of their hits through the sixties Hawkwind - Levitation- starting to sound a tad dated now,took 24 years Nuggets - garage at it best bar pebbles Permission to Rock - xmas present compilation thats great Siouxsie & the Banchees - Tinderbox Jimi Hendrix - Voodoo Child remastered collection Bo Diddly - A sides Jon Jarrett wrote: > Last ten things through my stereo: From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Jan 13 13:11:38 2004 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:11:38 -0500 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to In-Reply-To: <400404AE.5040808@aol.com> Message-ID: Iain Ferguson wrote: > MMmmm > > last 10 records on the Stereo time. it must be quiet again > > The Cure - Faith > The Cure - 3 imaginary boys > The Who - My generation the 2nd disk ( remastered version, with an > absolutelty unbeliveable 2nd disk that comes with it, by far the best > recordings of the who ever, plus a manic "leaving here" > The Kinks - a collection of their hits through the sixties > Hawkwind - Levitation- starting to sound a tad dated now,took 24 years > Nuggets - garage at it best bar pebbles > Permission to Rock - xmas present compilation thats great > Siouxsie & the Banchees - Tinderbox > Jimi Hendrix - Voodoo Child remastered collection > Bo Diddly - A sides Playing on DVD right as I type: Tangle Edge-Tarka Porcupine Tree-The Sky Moves Sideways The World Of Krautrock (2cd)-Various Artists Archives Of Space-Various Artists Pink Floyd-Momentary Lapse of Reason recently Starfield-return to earth Fantasyy Factoryy-Ode To Life Yatha Sidhra-A Meditation Mass Kalacakra-Crawling to Lhasa Holy River Family Band-Welcome To Riverhouse What I don't have, but want (but not for $25+), anything by Hidria Spacefolk From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Jan 13 16:35:33 2004 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:35:33 -0500 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:11:38 -0500, Jerry Guizar wrote: > >What I don't have, but want (but not for $25+), >anything by Hidria Spacefolk http://www.waysidemusic.com has Symbiosis listed for $17, thats their release with the really nice packaging. One of the many bands given the "as good as the Ozrics" tag, and in IMHO one of the few for which that may actually be true. Stephan From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Jan 13 16:42:44 2004 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:42:44 -0500 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Stephan Forstner wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:11:38 -0500, Jerry Guizar > wrote: > >>What I don't have, but want (but not for $25+), >>anything by Hidria Spacefolk > > > http://www.waysidemusic.com has Symbiosis listed for $17, thats their > release with the really nice packaging. One of the many bands given the "as > good as the Ozrics" tag, and in IMHO one of the few for which that may > actually be true. Thanks, the only place I found it before was Eurock.com, but they wanted close to $28 (they don't have it listed now). Jerry From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jan 15 14:44:31 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chris Dove) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:44:31 -0500 Subject: PXR1 Message-ID: You may have seen PXR1 at the Hawkfest, although they were on the same time as Hawkwind. Good news they have a great new CD out Alien Nation and if all goes well a gig in Paignton in June....will keep you all posted!! From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Jan 15 17:42:02 2004 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:42:02 -0600 Subject: HW: anyone around to chat? Message-ID: Hi folks, Well, my work finally allowed irc back into the network, so I can get back into channel. So if you are around and want to chat HW things, feel free to come on and talk. Hopefully, we can revive interest in it ;-) irc.dal.net, channel is #hawkwind.org.uk List of servers for dal.net in case irc.dal.net isn't working is available at: http://www.dal.net/servers/index.php3 Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Jan 14 21:21:16 2004 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:21:16 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK & One Eyed Bishops discography and price list now available Message-ID: Many people have written asking for a discography and price list for Sloterdijk & The One Eyed Bishops. We have one available by request at: sloterdijk at msn.com cheers! Mike Burro _________________________________________________________________ Rethink your business approach for the new year with the helpful tips here. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/prep04.armx From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jan 13 18:27:57 2004 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:27:57 +0000 Subject: Sloterdijk& OEB news, thanks, festival season & Hamburg Hawkfest CD Message-ID: Just a note to say thanks to all who sent me well wishes while I was fighting influenza & pneomonia. I appreciated that more than you may know. I was following the posts as much as I was able to, and was not surprised to see initial talk begininng about Hawkfest 2004. I remember last March when the 2003 event was announced. time does fly!! I'm happy so say, that I'm improving every day. I was able to rehearse with the band for our February 21 show in NYC, though I had to sit down the whole time, and was very limited in the vocal department. Still we worked through some new material, and it was a good gathering. We'll have a large lineup for New York, so check out: http;//www.spraci.net/events/27838.html for complete info I'm hoping ot bring Sloterdijk and/or The OEBs back to The UK in spring or summer. We really missed everyone when we had to cancel our appearance at Hawkfest 2003. It's been a year now since we last trod on England's soil, and it's also time to renew my passport!! **One final word** Due to ebay protocols regarding live music cds etc, our 'Hamburg Hawkfest 2000' CD listing was removed, however you can still get the disc any time directly through us. The details are as follows: signal source: sound board title: SLOTERDIJK: 'live at 4th northgerman hawkfan festival' ( June 16,2000, Hamburg Germany) (The Night-Owl Music, 2002) setlist: space intro>Integration Fred Goldman's Mustache Sexknowledgy Zwarte Piet Golden Void Prebonics Technoanthropology The Thunderbirds ( cut off near the very end ) Running time: 59:43 price is: $3.49 USD shipping: USA- $2.00 Canada: $2.50 UK $3.25 Continental Europe: $3.50 secure payment via http://www.paypal.com select 'non auction items' or 'other services' paypal to: sloterdijk at m... _________________________________________________________________ Find high-speed ?net deals ? comparison-shop your local providers here. https://broadband.msn.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Jan 17 03:05:16 2004 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 08:05:16 -0000 Subject: Sloterdijk& OEB news, thanks, festival season & Hamburg Hawkfest CD Message-ID: Hi Mike - more belated best wishes - hope you're fully recovered now. One question - how do you pronounce "Sloterdijk"? I've wondered for years now! :-) Cheers, Rich. > Just a note to say thanks to all who sent me well wishes while I was > fighting influenza & pneomonia. I appreciated that more than you may > know. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Jan 19 14:26:04 2004 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 14:26:04 -0500 Subject: Test Message-ID: Test -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 19 17:11:51 2004 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 22:11:51 -0000 Subject: Test Message-ID: Everyone's gone to the Moon? jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mick Crook" To: Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:26 PM Subject: Re: Test > Test > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Jan 19 19:08:50 2004 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:08:50 EST Subject: Test Message-ID: In a message dated 1/19/2004 5:16:47 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: Everyone's gone to the Moon? Where else should loonies go? Joe From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jan 19 19:33:09 2004 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:33:09 -0500 Subject: Test Message-ID: Uranus ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Test > In a message dated 1/19/2004 5:16:47 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > Everyone's gone to the Moon? > Where else should loonies go? > > Joe From Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM Mon Jan 19 23:18:27 2004 From: Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM (Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:18:27 EST Subject: Test Message-ID: I would suggest UTOPIA: City in my head Utopia Heaven in my body Utopia Todd is Godd From CWarburton at OAG.COM Tue Jan 20 12:14:51 2004 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (CWarburton at OAG.COM) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:14:51 -0000 Subject: Off:re. test Message-ID: All together now: "Oh we're the pigs fro Uranus, The greatest planet of all! We're big & smart & famous Wealthy witty & talll.... > > Uranus > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: Test > > > > In a message dated 1/19/2004 5:16:47 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > > jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > > Everyone's gone to the Moon? > > Where else should loonies go? > > > > Joe From tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM Wed Jan 21 00:24:55 2004 From: tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:24:55 -0600 Subject: Still testing.... Message-ID: Is there any life out there?? OK...the Tests work, I think..........from Utopia....Space.....Pluto...Mars..Morgan City, Louisiana (??!!)...it's all the same.....wherever, man!..Other that that, hope all is well with everyone and that life in general is bringing along the best for everyone. Back from the almost dead...and checking in! Udder than that......when's the next gig...(hope to make the next one and not show up a day late! When it the new album coming out? Tour Dates...soundbytes of some of the new stuff?? Keeping everyone in suspense? Resting on on your laurels....Don't wanna...don't care? Taking a breather? Other priorities in life?....Hmmmmm....Can I invite Hawkwind to come to Louisiana for a party? Nik Turner too? ........ummmm...whatelse... Have said enough for now....test...test...test... From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 21 06:13:21 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:13:21 GMT Subject: Still testing.... In-Reply-To: Tom Clark's message of Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:24:55 -0600 Message-ID: Tom Clark writes: > Is there any life out there?? > > OK...the Tests work, Yeah, it's only messages with actual content that aren't getting through. Either that or many New Year Resolutions have been "must do less Hawkwind..." FoFP From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jan 21 14:23:42 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:23:42 -0500 Subject: Still testing.... In-Reply-To: <001301c3dfde$e7592a20$0c01a8c0@TOMSHOME>; from tclark@COX-INTERNET.COM on Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:24:55PM -0600 Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:24:55PM -0600, Tom Clark wrote: > Can I invite Hawkwind to > come to Louisiana for a party? Nik Turner too? The same party? I think not :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jan 21 14:24:30 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:24:30 -0500 Subject: Still testing.... In-Reply-To: <200401211113.i0LBDLhd003923@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 11:13:21AM +0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 11:13:21AM +0000, M Holmes wrote: > Tom Clark writes: > > OK...the Tests work, > > Yeah, it's only messages with actual content that aren't getting > through. Yeah, they wired up the spam filter backward.... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Wed Jan 21 14:44:17 2004 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:44:17 +0000 Subject: Still testing.... Message-ID: Yo, M Holmes wrote: > Tom Clark writes: > > >>Is there any life out there?? >> >>OK...the Tests work, > > > Yeah, it's only messages with actual content that aren't getting > through. Either that or many New Year Resolutions have been "must do > less Hawkwind..." > > FoFP > > Or maybe the effects of 3,000 mushrooms in a glass of cider are only just wearing off.... Saw A. Brown on a prog rock umentry, but NO mention of vicious cosmik attack birds like Hawks. or even penguins. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 21 17:21:47 2004 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:21:47 -0000 Subject: Still testing.... Message-ID: Probably folk are still celebrating - now that we've reached the Chinese New Year. I understand this is now the Year of the Monkey. Maybe Hawkwind should re-issue the Silver Machine single along with the Monkey sleeve cover it came out with originally. Might get into the Far Eastern market - could start a whole new spacerock era On reflection - if anyone did find life on Mars that would really start a "space-rock" era! musingly jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Jan 21 19:52:42 2004 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:52:42 -0500 Subject: BOC:Tales of the psychic wars Message-ID: Hey everyone, question came up on the RYM website... Would you consider above mentioned album as a compilation or as a standard album (only 2 choices) thanks tim 8>)... From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Thu Jan 22 06:58:11 2004 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:58:11 -0000 Subject: OFF - HW....Litmus & Spacehead Message-ID: Hi Folks, Since nobody is posting anything about this gig (least of all those concerned - so modest!) I thought I'd just like to say how much I enjoyed the gig at the Blackhorse Lane venue... A couple of week on, the events of the night are a little more blurry (how the hell does anyone remember setlists?) but I know there were quite a lot of HW covers played that night and played bloody well. During the Litmus set Martin payed tribute to the contribution of Hawkwind to getting them gigging about and as far as I can remember they played Quark Strangeness & Charm and a.n.other (maybe 2 ) Hawkwind tracks. Their own set was 'jolly' and had a few of us jigging around at the front. (tut eh?!) Spacehead were also good and I am sure i remember them launching into Alien 4 .. quite a nice surprise as that's been in my CD player all year so far !! Can anyone provide the full setlist for this gig (maybe Collin?) and point me in the direction of vendors of some Litmus/Spacehead CD's to add to my collection - they both deserve a place in it. Also very nice to see Huw Lloyd Langton at the gig ... hope we didn't bug him too much! regards Maxine From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 22 08:18:45 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:18:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Litmus & Spacehead Message-ID: Spacehead CDs are available from that nice Mr Garibaldi at CD Services; as for Litmus (http://www.litmusmusic.co.uk), so far they only have a couple of demo tapes out but are working very hard on their first full release. I will post the Spacehead setlist this evening. A lot of people seem to have enjoyed the evening; we will have to do it again soon. Remember that Spacehead are playing at Lix's Bar in Felixstowe on February 27th. Colin From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jan 22 10:47:45 2004 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:47:45 -0500 Subject: BOC:Tales of the psychic wars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 07:52:42PM -0500, Tim wrote: => Hey everyone, question came up on the RYM website... => Would you consider above mentioned album as a compilation => or as a standard album (only 2 choices) I'd consider it a compilation, as it packages together (in butchered form) two previous bootlegs. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jan 22 14:05:52 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Cee Dee) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:05:52 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order Space Ritual Live Chronicles Levitation Alien 4 In Search of Space From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Jan 22 14:22:02 2004 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:22:02 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Levitation Church of Hawkwind Live Chronicles "Hawklords" Electric Teepee Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the web log http://www.mikemontfort.com the web site ________________________ When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President. Now I'm beginning to believe it. -- Clarence Darrow -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Cee Dee Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:06 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: what is your top 5 I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order Space Ritual Live Chronicles Levitation Alien 4 In Search of Space From paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK Thu Jan 22 14:19:23 2004 From: paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK (pauleatonjones) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:19:23 +0000 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Cee Dee, I've just joined the group and I'm hoping for some mature and informed discussion about Hawkwind, Dave Brock, Nik Turner, their music and so on. So to start with here's my top five. Doremi Fasol Latido The Space Ritual Quark, Strangeness And Charm Live In Nottingham 1990 In Search Of Space Regards, Paul. On Thursday, January 22, 2004, at 07:05 pm, Cee Dee wrote: > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order > > Space Ritual > Live Chronicles > Levitation > Alien 4 > In Search of Space > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Jan 22 14:45:38 2004 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:45:38 +0100 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am for: - Canterbury 2001 - Live Chronicles - Live 79 - Nottingham 1990 - Chicago 1974 Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of pauleatonjones Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:19 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: what is your top 5 Hi Cee Dee, I've just joined the group and I'm hoping for some mature and informed discussion about Hawkwind, Dave Brock, Nik Turner, their music and so on. So to start with here's my top five. Doremi Fasol Latido The Space Ritual Quark, Strangeness And Charm Live In Nottingham 1990 In Search Of Space Regards, Paul. On Thursday, January 22, 2004, at 07:05 pm, Cee Dee wrote: > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order > > Space Ritual > Live Chronicles > Levitation > Alien 4 > In Search of Space > From colm.mcwilliams at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Jan 22 14:46:09 2004 From: colm.mcwilliams at NTLWORLD.COM (colm mcwilliams) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:46:09 -0000 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: quark strangeness and charm warrior on the edge of time astounding sounds amazing music hawklords 25 years on X in search of space cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cee Dee" To: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: what is your top 5 > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order > > Space Ritual > Live Chronicles > Levitation > Alien 4 > In Search of Space > From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Thu Jan 22 15:07:25 2004 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:07:25 -0600 Subject: HW: What is your Top Five? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This varies so much, you would get a different answer each week :-) So this weeks winners are... Electric Teepee (This is nearly always on the list..a simply great album) Live Chronicles (Been Thinking alot about the new Elric movie!) Tales From the Atomhenge - The Robert Calvert Years (Cheating I know..but one of the best compilations) Hawkwind (This Still sounds beautifully Fresh even after 30odd years, I have to be in the mood for it though) Nottingham 1990 (Lots of Energy!) I would still like to see the BBC Radio 1 In Concert from Hammersmith Odeon on the Xenon Codex tour come out on CD. That is a great gig, I think Huws guitar playing on that recording was at a peak (one of his many :-) Rich From roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 22 15:07:12 2004 From: roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET (Roger) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:07:12 -0000 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: In no particular order Space Ritual Astounding Sounds Hawklords Quark Strangeness and Charm Hall of the Mountain Grill Oh Bugger! I forgot Warrior my six favourite Hawkwind al.................... Incidently has anyone actually heard the new single on the radio yet? Cheers Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cee Dee" To: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: what is your top 5 > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order > > Space Ritual > Live Chronicles > Levitation > Alien 4 > In Search of Space > From tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM Thu Jan 22 15:28:10 2004 From: tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM (Tom Clark) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:28:10 -0600 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: <000301c3e123$53f6e420$3247fea9@skrotwm> Message-ID: Space Ritual Hawklords Quark Strangeness Levitation The New One?? From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Thu Jan 22 15:34:42 2004 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:34:42 +0000 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: <000301c3e123$53f6e420$3247fea9@skrotwm> Message-ID: HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL then in revolving order SPACE RITUAL ELECTRIC TEEPEE (though haven't been playing this as much lately) PXR5 QUARK STRANGENESS & CHARM PALACE SPRINGS That's six I know, but that's the way it is! Dave At 20:07 22/01/2004 +0000, you wrote: >In no particular order > >Space Ritual >Astounding Sounds >Hawklords >Quark Strangeness and Charm >Hall of the Mountain Grill > > >Oh Bugger! I forgot Warrior > >my six favourite Hawkwind al.................... > >Incidently has anyone actually heard the new single on the radio yet? >Cheers >Roger > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cee Dee" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:05 PM >Subject: what is your top 5 > > > > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order > > > > Space Ritual > > Live Chronicles > > Levitation > > Alien 4 > > In Search of Space > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 22 15:46:40 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:46:40 -0000 Subject: Litmus & Spacehead Message-ID: Spacehead set-list: Standing on the Edge Fyre Dragons Mechanoid's Dream Dark Star Abducted Waiting For Tomorrow (with Huw) Space is Their... (with Huw) The Right Stuff (with Huw and Martin) Quark, Strangeness & Charm (with Huw & Martin) I wonder how much interest there would be in a small Spacehead/Litmus tour? Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: HW: Litmus & Spacehead > Spacehead CDs are available from that nice Mr Garibaldi at CD Services; as > for Litmus (http://www.litmusmusic.co.uk), so far they only have a couple > of demo tapes out but are working very hard on their first full release. > > I will post the Spacehead setlist this evening. > > A lot of people seem to have enjoyed the evening; we will have to do it > again soon. Remember that Spacehead are playing at Lix's Bar in Felixstowe > on February 27th. > > Colin > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Jan 22 16:06:34 2004 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:06:34 -0500 Subject: What is your Top Five? Message-ID: Space Bandits Distant Horizons In your Area Alien 4 Hawkwind(1st LP) From Alan_Taylor at MADASAFISH.COM Thu Jan 22 16:33:25 2004 From: Alan_Taylor at MADASAFISH.COM (Alan Taylor) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:33:25 -0000 Subject: What is your Top Five? Message-ID: Alien 4 Electric Tepee Quark Strangeness & Charm Space Ritual 1999 Party From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Jan 22 16:18:27 2004 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:18:27 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: Space Ritual Astounding Sounds It is the business of the future.... Levitation Warrior Dr. Dan From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Thu Jan 22 17:04:37 2004 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:04:37 +0000 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: Hi, Very hard to say cause it changes, right now: Hawkwind Kinetic Playground Church of Hawkwind Palace Springs Astounding Sounds Amazing Music Hawklords 25 Years On I'm another that can't count, I'm sure there are more in my top 5. Chris From denis at PTI-INC.DE Thu Jan 22 16:53:32 2004 From: denis at PTI-INC.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:53:32 +0100 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, On 22.01.2004, at 20:05 Uhr, Cee Dee wrote: > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order Hawklords Quark, Strangeness & Charm PXR 5 Astounding Sounds Warrior (c)IAO D+R From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Thu Jan 22 17:15:41 2004 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:15:41 +0000 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: Hi ya, Or thinking again, Love In Space Space Ritual Electric Teepee Live Chronicles Text Of Festival (yea I know, but it _still_sounds_ good to me:-) Simpley cause they are all double albums or cd so ya get more of wot ya want! Chris From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 22 17:13:27 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:13:27 -0000 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: Spaced Out in London (partly because I recorded it and partly because it is stunning!) Canterbury Fayre Space Ritual California Brainstorm Complete '79 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cee Dee" To: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: what is your top 5 > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order > > Space Ritual > Live Chronicles > Levitation > Alien 4 > In Search of Space > From tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM Thu Jan 22 17:17:22 2004 From: tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM (Tom Clark) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:17:22 -0600 Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? In-Reply-To: <40104B8D.5040709@hawklord.uklinux.net> Message-ID: The top 5 revolves around the top 15 or so...they are all great... Least 5: 1.) (Dead Last And Of No Redeeming Quality)Bring Me The Head Of Yuri 2.) Zones (though I do like the first two tracks) 3.) Live '79...(because they friggin cut the end off of Silver Machine!) 4.) Out and Intake (Patched together...no continuity...IMO) 5.) Xenon Codes(Not for content, but bad production...IMO...otherwise, good trippin music..) From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Jan 22 17:31:11 2004 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:31:11 -0600 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: <002c01c3e134$f5e54c20$6cd1fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Errrr, in no particular order: QS&C PXR5 IITBOTFTBD Live Chronicles dawn of hawkwind Although I've been liking Canterbury, Yule Ritual, CYM, and Warrior rather a lot as well. Arin (ssc: not listening to enough HW at the minute, though. Too much work :-( ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jan 22 17:40:35 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chriz) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:40:35 -0500 Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? Message-ID: Least favourite....heresy surely but here goes 1. Yuri Gagarin (obvious) 2. Glastonbury 90 (worse than your worse bootleg) 3. Complete Live 79 (not good sound) 4. Out and Intake ..... and as for worse studio album..... ....Distant Horizons... From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Jan 22 18:08:24 2004 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:08:24 -0500 Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? Message-ID: My least are Q,S+C Church of HW It is the Business of the future Sonic Attack In search of Space ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chriz" To: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:40 PM Subject: Re: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? > Least favourite....heresy surely but here goes > > 1. Yuri Gagarin (obvious) > > 2. Glastonbury 90 (worse than your worse bootleg) > > 3. Complete Live 79 (not good sound) > > 4. Out and Intake > > .... and as for worse studio album..... > > ....Distant Horizons... From colm.mcwilliams at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Jan 22 18:11:32 2004 From: colm.mcwilliams at NTLWORLD.COM (colm mcwilliams) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:11:32 -0000 Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? Message-ID: Hmmmm........ least fav 5 cd's by hawkwind let me see..... 1) Zones (running through your back brain and nik turner blowing a whistle at the start of one of the songs (cant remember which one) sets the tone for terrible cd) 2) yuri gagarin (I think most people here hate this one) 3) The chronicle of the black sword (weak production and live chronicles blows it away in comparison) 4) sonic attack 5) Church of Hawkwind 6) Choose your masques sorry but i had to choose 6 cos i equally dislike all 3 RCA cd's cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chriz" To: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Re: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? > Least favourite....heresy surely but here goes > > 1. Yuri Gagarin (obvious) > > 2. Glastonbury 90 (worse than your worse bootleg) > > 3. Complete Live 79 (not good sound) > > 4. Out and Intake > > ..... and as for worse studio album..... > > ....Distant Horizons... > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jan 22 19:33:03 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:33:03 -0500 Subject: Litmus & Spacehead In-Reply-To: <005301c3e128$d6420c20$6cd1fea9@oemcomputer>; from colin@CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:46:40PM -0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:46:40PM -0000, Colin J Allen wrote: > I wonder how much interest there would be in a small Spacehead/Litmus tour? If it were a small North American tour that included Toronto :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Thu Jan 22 22:01:23 2004 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:01:23 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: So when is the Spaced Out in London CD going to be made generally available? I've been salivating for it.... John Majka jmajk at indy.rr.com > Spaced Out in London (partly because I recorded it and partly because it is > stunning!) > Canterbury Fayre > Space Ritual > California Brainstorm > Complete '79 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cee Dee" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:05 PM > Subject: what is your top 5 > > > > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order > > > > Space Ritual > > Live Chronicles > > Levitation > > Alien 4 > > In Search of Space > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Jan 22 22:19:03 2004 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:19:03 +0800 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: Quark, Stangeness and Charm Hawkwind The Business Trip Xin Search of Space Hawklords Cheers Bill From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Jan 23 00:05:23 2004 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:35:23 +1030 Subject: What is your Top Five? Message-ID: Levitation Alien 4 Love in Space Live Chronicles Quark, Strangeness & Charm or maybe Warrior on the edge of time or maybe electric tepee or maybe etc not in any particular order - too hard to decide ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe" To: Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: Re: What is your Top Five? > Space Bandits > Distant Horizons > In your Area > Alien 4 > Hawkwind(1st LP) > From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 23 05:02:39 2004 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (DA99XEeddie jobson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:02:39 +0000 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: My twopenneth Q,S & C WOTEOT Live '79 Space Ritual Hawklords How do I fit ISOS in as well? Eddie. >From: "bernhard.pospiech" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: what is your top 5 >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:45:38 +0100 > >I am for: > >- Canterbury 2001 >- Live Chronicles >- Live 79 >- Nottingham 1990 >- Chicago 1974 > > > >Bernhard > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >On Behalf Of pauleatonjones >Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 8:19 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: what is your top 5 > > >Hi Cee Dee, > I've just joined the group and I'm hoping for some mature and >informed discussion about Hawkwind, Dave Brock, Nik Turner, their music >and so on. So to start with here's my top five. Doremi Fasol Latido The >Space Ritual Quark, Strangeness And Charm Live In Nottingham 1990 In >Search Of Space > > Regards, > Paul. >On Thursday, January 22, 2004, at 07:05 pm, Cee Dee wrote: > > > I'm sure this hasn't happened in along whils and should get us all > > responding..... what are your top 5 Hawkwind albums ...in no order > > > > Space Ritual > > Live Chronicles > > Levitation > > Alien 4 > > In Search of Space > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 23 05:07:12 2004 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (DA99XEeddie jobson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:07:12 +0000 Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? Message-ID: Zones IITNOTBTBD Yuri Electric Tepee (no insults please) Love in Space (ditto) >From: colm mcwilliams >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:11:32 -0000 > >Hmmmm........ > >least fav 5 cd's by hawkwind let me see..... > >1) Zones (running through your back brain and nik turner blowing a whistle >at the start of one of the songs (cant remember which one) sets the tone >for >terrible cd) >2) yuri gagarin (I think most people here hate this one) >3) The chronicle of the black sword (weak production and live chronicles >blows it away in comparison) >4) sonic attack >5) Church of Hawkwind >6) Choose your masques > >sorry but i had to choose 6 cos i equally dislike all 3 RCA cd's > >cheers > >colm > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chriz" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:40 PM >Subject: Re: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? > > > > Least favourite....heresy surely but here goes > > > > 1. Yuri Gagarin (obvious) > > > > 2. Glastonbury 90 (worse than your worse bootleg) > > > > 3. Complete Live 79 (not good sound) > > > > 4. Out and Intake > > > > ..... and as for worse studio album..... > > > > ....Distant Horizons... > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Jan 23 05:13:32 2004 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:13:32 +0000 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi there, always a hard one but here we go.. QS&C Sonic Attack ITBOTFTBD Space Ritual PXR5 (oh and Swindon - Winter tour (2001) - hehehehe) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 23 06:16:10 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:16:10 GMT Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:13:32 +0000 Message-ID: Warrior on the Edge Quark, Strangeness and Charm The Business Trip California Brainstorm X in Search of Space From CWarburton at OAG.COM Fri Jan 23 07:26:13 2004 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (CWarburton at OAG.COM) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:26:13 -0000 Subject: HW: Top 5 Message-ID: Space Ritual DoReMi HotMG Canterbury 1999 Party On aterial grounds, QS&C should be there too, but I just don't like the recording, and the title track irritates me if I hear it too often. That's me done ChrisW NP: Amon D??l II Live in London From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Jan 23 11:22:24 2004 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:22:24 +0100 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: 1. Space Ritual 2. Warrior on the edge of time 3. Quark strangeness and charm 4. Levitation 5. Yule Ritual Andreas From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jan 23 12:55:13 2004 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:55:13 -0000 Subject: Top 5 In-Reply-To: <9516C5462A22114B9A55EBF7FEB3D20602669A1E@uk01ex01.travel.oag.com> Message-ID: Today I'll say: Space Ritual Electric Tepee Love In Space Space Out In London (minor quibble here that its not a double with the encores) Yule Ritual Worst (even harder this one): Gagarin Text of Festival (poor sound both of 'em but there is interest value there) Zones Out & Intake Church (I quite like it, but more as a Brock solo piece, its not really HW) Nick From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 13:41:14 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chris Dove) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:41:14 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: The response has been good keep them coming and I shall compile them all in about a weeks time to see what is the favourite album. Now how about the impossible favourite track......only joking!!! Does anybody have any news on the new single, what about the album and what about re-issuing Warrior and the Charisma stuff (I've got the vinyl but no record deck!!) From paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 14:31:31 2004 From: paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK (pauleatonjones) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:31:31 +0000 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As a few people have included their five least favourite albums I thought I might as well post mine. It Is The Business ( dreadful, what were they thinking of??) Business Trip Live ( ditto ) Out & Intake (apart from Cajun Jinx) Xenon Codex ( apart from Head and Good Evening) In Your Area. I actually think that Bring Me The Head.... is a fairly good album. Texts Of festival is fabulous, I wish that side four of the vinyl l.p. had been transfered to c.d. Does anyone out there think that E.M.I. short-changed us and the band when they did the remastering of The Space Ritual? They had access to the original tapes and failed spectacularly when they didn't do the whole of the concert. Consequently we end up with the truncated versions of Brainstorm and Time We Left...very poor continuity between The Awakening/Lord Of Light, Electronic Number One/Orgone Accumulator, Brainstorm/Seven By Seven, and a shortened encore (the one from Roadhawks). Why don't we all write/start a campaign for the real thing? Remember Dave Brock saying that when they recorded in the studio in the early days they always left the recorders running thus ending up with "hours" of material so they had to fade out tracks, e.g. Brainstorm, Lord Of light etc., etc.? Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? I look forward to your thoughts, Hawk fans. Paul. On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 06:41 pm, Chris Dove wrote: > The response has been good keep them coming and I shall compile them > all > in about a weeks time to see what is the favourite album. > > Now how about the impossible favourite track......only joking!!! > > Does anybody have any news on the new single, what about the album and > what about re-issuing Warrior and the Charisma stuff (I've got the > vinyl > but no record deck!!) > From maxgate at CLEAR.NET.NZ Fri Jan 23 15:32:55 2004 From: maxgate at CLEAR.NET.NZ (David Howard) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:32:55 +1300 Subject: What is your top 5? Message-ID: In answering I've put the emphasis on frequency of listening rather than critical evaluation. While I believe that 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm' is their best studio album, I wouldn't argue for 'The Business Trip' as a stand-out live set: it just happens to be an appealing anthology of tracks that I enjoy - 'Doremi Fasol Latido' and 'Hall of the Mountain Grill' are superior pieces of music-making but, for whatever reason, I don't play them. There's another factor in my listening which isn't necessarily obvious from this list: Robert Calvert impresses and delights me, whereas Michael Moorcock bores the proverbial out of me. 'Space Ritual' 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm' 'Palace Springs' 'In Search of Space' 'The Business Trip' David Howard From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 15:46:57 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:46:57 -0000 Subject: Litmus & Spacehead Message-ID: Despite the fact that Toronto is one of my favourite cities, that is unfortunately probably not too likely. Colin:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" To: Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 12:33 AM Subject: Re: Litmus & Spacehead > On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 08:46:40PM -0000, Colin J Allen wrote: > > I wonder how much interest there would be in a small Spacehead/Litmus tour? > > If it were a small North American tour that included Toronto :-) > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer > wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the > drum kit around during songs. > - Patrick Lenneau > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Jan 23 15:59:23 2004 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:59:23 -0600 Subject: Litmus & Spacehead In-Reply-To: <008401c3e1f2$0af269a0$6cd1fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Colin J Allen wrote: :Subject: Re: Litmus & Spacehead : :Despite the fact that Toronto is one of my favourite cities, that is :unfortunately probably not too likely. : ...which probably means that chicago is right out, too :-( (damn!) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 16:10:06 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chriz Dove) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:10:06 -0500 Subject: HW: Litmus & Spacehead Message-ID: fear not everybody if all goes well we should get a few PXR1 gigs this year If you can get hold of the Alien Nation CD do so now!!!!! From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 23 16:11:33 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:11:33 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: ; from chrizdove@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK on Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:41:14PM -0500 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 01:41:14PM -0500, Chris Dove wrote: > The response has been good keep them coming and I shall compile them all > in about a weeks time to see what is the favourite album. I'm more interested in: which albums are on both best-5 and worst-5 lists? Quite a few, as it turns out: Church of Hawkwind Complete '79 Distant Horizons Electric Teepee In Search of Space It is the Business... Live '79 Love in Space Quark, Strangeness and Charm Sonic Attack Text of Festival With honourable mention to Yuri Gagarin, which didn't make anyone's best list, but someone called it "fairly good". -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 23 16:13:45 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:13:45 -0500 Subject: Old masters In-Reply-To: ; from paul@IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK on Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 07:31:31PM +0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 07:31:31PM +0000, pauleatonjones wrote: > Remember Dave Brock saying that when they recorded in the studio in the > early days they always left the recorders running thus ending up with > "hours" of material so they had to fade out tracks, e.g. Brainstorm, > Lord Of light etc., etc.? Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those > unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 23 16:16:46 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:16:46 -0500 Subject: Litmus & Spacehead In-Reply-To: <008401c3e1f2$0af269a0$6cd1fea9@oemcomputer>; from colin@CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 08:46:57PM -0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 08:46:57PM -0000, Colin J Allen wrote: > Despite the fact that Toronto is one of my favourite cities, that is > unfortunately probably not too likely. I knew that (well, not the "favourite" part; thanks). Had to try though :-) :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 16:20:59 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chriz Dove) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:20:59 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: Yeah, will have to do a top 5 best and top 5 least...just goes to show what a brilliant and diverse band the 'Wind are, can't wait to see them again soon From imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 17:38:29 2004 From: imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK (Jason Gool) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:38:29 -0000 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: Warrior on the Edge of Time Quark Strangeness and Charm Levitation Live Chronicles Yule Ritual Jas. ------- End of forwarded message ------- From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Jan 23 18:02:53 2004 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:02:53 -0500 Subject: "impossible Favorite Track" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: For me its easy. When I hear the opening strains of Magnu I go all "Hawkwindy" inside. To me its the Ultimate Hawk song. A close second is Motor Way City. After that.. all of them. Mike Montfort http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the website _________________________ Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. -- Albert Einstein -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Chris Dove Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 1:41 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: what is your top 5 The response has been good keep them coming and I shall compile them all in about a weeks time to see what is the favourite album. Now how about the impossible favourite track......only joking!!! Does anybody have any news on the new single, what about the album and what about re-issuing Warrior and the Charisma stuff (I've got the vinyl but no record deck!!) From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Jan 23 18:11:02 2004 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:11:02 -0500 Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gagaurin Zones In and Outake none none Note: I really don't have a least fave Hawkwind Album or period. I accept them for what they are producing at the time they are producing it. BAD live recordings are a waste of time however, hence the least favorite #1. The next two just don't hang well together, but they are nice to have to complete the set.... Michael Corwyn Montfort, esq. http://corwyn.blogspot.com the blog http://www.mikemontfort.com the website _________________________ Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. -- Albert Einstein From paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 18:12:17 2004 From: paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK (pauleatonjones) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:12:17 +0000 Subject: Old masters In-Reply-To: <20040123161345.B19549@telepres.com> Message-ID: Good grief. Am I the only one respondent, so far, who thinks that Doremi Fasol Latido is one of the finest albums of all time let alone one of Hawkwind's greatest? Paul Eaton-Jones On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 09:13 pm, Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 07:31:31PM +0000, pauleatonjones wrote: >> Remember Dave Brock saying that when they recorded in the studio in >> the >> early days they always left the recorders running thus ending up with >> "hours" of material so they had to fade out tracks, e.g. Brainstorm, >> Lord Of light etc., etc.? Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those >> unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? > > Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer > wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the > drum kit around during songs. > - Patrick Lenneau > From paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 18:20:19 2004 From: paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK (pauleatonjones) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:20:19 +0000 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi folks. Favourite track? Well it has to be 'Brainstorm' from Doremi, very closely followed by 'Born To Go' from The Space Ritual. Dave's sonorous lead break on this track is truly inspired. Third favourite, as regards guitar playing, is 'Night Of The Hawks' from Nottingham 1990. Everything Dave does on it is just perfect. He hits the heights once again. ( just before they fall off the cliff with Electric Tepee and It Is The Business..... Oh dear.) Paul. On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 06:41 pm, Chris Dove wrote: > The response has been good keep them coming and I shall compile them > all > in about a weeks time to see what is the favourite album. > > Now how about the impossible favourite track......only joking!!! > > Does anybody have any news on the new single, what about the album and > what about re-issuing Warrior and the Charisma stuff (I've got the > vinyl > but no record deck!!) > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Jan 23 18:27:40 2004 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:27:40 -0500 Subject: Old masters Message-ID: That albums terrible. Lord of light and Brainstorm are great tracks, the rest is boring. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pauleatonjones" To: Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Old masters > Good grief. Am I the only one respondent, so far, who thinks that > Doremi Fasol Latido is one of the finest albums of all time let alone > one of Hawkwind's greatest? > Paul > Eaton-Jones > On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 09:13 pm, Eric Siegerman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 07:31:31PM +0000, pauleatonjones wrote: > >> Remember Dave Brock saying that when they recorded in the studio in > >> the > >> early days they always left the recorders running thus ending up with > >> "hours" of material so they had to fade out tracks, e.g. Brainstorm, > >> Lord Of light etc., etc.? Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those > >> unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? > > > > Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! > > > > -- > > > > | | /\ > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > | | / > > It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer > > wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the > > drum kit around during songs. > > - Patrick Lenneau > > From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jan 23 19:21:25 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chriz Dove) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:21:25 -0500 Subject: Old masters Message-ID: No, Doremi is a great album the only problem is that apart from One Change and The Watcher all the tracks are on the better Space Ritual. By the way The Watcher is great on Spaced out in London, I really do think Alan Davey should tackle other Lemmy greats ie Lost Johnny From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Jan 23 19:46:49 2004 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:46:49 -0500 Subject: Old masters Message-ID: Why should Alan bother? He's much better than Lemmy. He's good enough to not waste his time on covers. From: "Chriz Dove" To: Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Old masters > No, Doremi is a great album the only problem is that apart from One Change > and The Watcher all the tracks are on the better Space Ritual. By the way > The Watcher is great on Spaced out in London, I really do think Alan Davey > should tackle other Lemmy greats ie Lost Johnny From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 23 21:30:36 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:30:36 -0500 Subject: Old masters In-Reply-To: <964A6A2A-4DF9-11D8-85C8-000A959BC38E@imrryr.karoo.co.uk>; from paul@IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK on Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:12:17PM +0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:12:17PM +0000, pauleatonjones wrote: > Good grief. Am I the only one respondent, so far, who thinks that > Doremi Fasol Latido is one of the finest albums of all time let alone > one of Hawkwind's greatest? Only 'cause I haven't responded yet :-) Doremi's production bites, but everything else about the album is pretty much the quintessence of why I'm a HW fan. The only other thing wrong with it is there's not enough of it -- which this... > >> Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those > >> unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? ...would fix admirably! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jan 23 21:56:02 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:56:02 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: <4011A265.21311.2CB2F8D1@localhost>; from imaginos@PAVILION.CO.UK on Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 10:38:29PM -0000 Message-ID: Ok, time to pitch in. Best (in no particular order): Doremi Space Ritual It is the Business... Astounding Warrior Worst: I really can't say. There's a *lot* that I never listen to, and I can't remember which ones that's because I detest them and which are because I just play familiar favourites instead -- creature of habit I guess. Like, until very recently I hadn't put on Mountain Grill in probably decades; then someone told me I was nuts so I decided to give it a listen, and they were right; now it just misses my top-5 list. But for the same reason I threw on In Search of Space for the first time in forever, and ... ho hum, that one it turns out I don't play for a reason. (I guess I have rather top-40 listening habits -- I own hundreds of CDs, but the same couple of dozen seem to be in constant high rotation, with only a slow drift over time. It's just that very few of my personal top 40 are in the world's top 400 :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Jan 23 23:00:54 2004 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:00:54 +0000 Subject: Impossible fav track Message-ID: Hi ya, Completely Impossible "Shouldn't Do That" on Roadhawks, is a contender but then so is "Children of the Sun", and for some reason "We Live Inside The Egg" or whatever its called. In a different mood I'd also say "War Children" particully the version on a charity compilation (who sings it?) Chris From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jan 23 23:03:11 2004 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:03:11 -0500 Subject: Impossible fav track In-Reply-To: <4011EDF6.5000809@hawklord.uklinux.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 04:00:54AM +0000, chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET wrote: => In a different mood I'd also say "War Children" particully the version => on a charity compilation (who sings it?) That would be "Gimme Shelter" on the... _Gimme Shelter (Rock)_ charity CD single. :-) Samantha Fox is one of the vocalists on that version. A version sans her vocals also appears on _It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous_. "Gimme Shelter" is originally a Rolling Stones song. It's one of the few covers Hawkwind have ever done. ("Cymbaline" by Pink Floyd is another.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM Sat Jan 24 00:25:22 2004 From: tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM (Tom Clark) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:25:22 -0600 Subject: Impossible fav track Message-ID: Yep...actually, I think every album has it's merits....I wouldn't think that any were produced with a "hit song" mentality especially formulated for top 40 airplay to vie with whoever is popular at the time....Bay City Rollers, Barry Manilow, Spice Girls, Kid Rock...etc etc. Really can't think of a "worst" song. That is a different concept than the idea of the "least" fave album. Some albums were done quite well...with a continuity and flow that makes people want to listen to them all the way through in one sitting...... Having said that, the idea to me, having had my life completely changed, or having had Hawkwind music as soundtrack to portions of my life, as I'm sure most will agree, is that the of "best" and "least" consists of what releases are deemed as a whole as being total efforts at presenting material that is worthy of purchasing an albums worth of music. C'mon...some of the rehashed official "live" releases production wise don't even come close to the studio versions. You can't remake "Space Ritual" so why try? Yuri sounded worse than being recorded in a bathroom. Some of the later "Brainstorm" releases (if under differnent names), sounds pretty retarded compared to the original. If the idea is to release music that enchants...what were they thinking? Headphones, a joint and listening to Yuri....just didn't fit the description, for example....as listening to some of the Charisma albums..or Space Ritual, etc.....quite a different experience... Not knocking Hawkwind music in general....but hey, this is a discussion group for Hawkwind music lovers throwing their two cents in....and those are mine......for whatever it's worth... From GHawkwind63 at AOL.COM Sat Jan 24 04:53:35 2004 From: GHawkwind63 at AOL.COM (Michael Gee) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:53:35 EST Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? Message-ID: The Masters Spirit of the Age The Best Of In The Beginning Cosmic Overdrive because there really all the same bloody CD From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sat Jan 24 10:29:14 2004 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:29:14 +0100 Subject: HW:Inner City Unit Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone has covers for the Inner City Unit concert: Salford 19-02-1985? Filip.Vanhuyse at pandora.be From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Jan 24 14:14:45 2004 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:14:45 -0000 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: On a related topic, I read that the Syd Barrett Madcap Society are currently petitioning EMI with a view to getting all of Syd's studio and live recordings issued. Of course, one is assuming that EMI still have the tapes, and that they are still playable.... > > Does anyone out there think that E.M.I. short-changed us and the band > when they did the remastering of The Space Ritual? They had access to > the original tapes and failed spectacularly when they didn't do the > whole of the concert. Consequently we end up with the truncated > versions of Brainstorm and Time We Left...very poor continuity between > The Awakening/Lord Of Light, Electronic Number One/Orgone Accumulator, > Brainstorm/Seven By Seven, and a shortened encore (the one from > Roadhawks). Why don't we all write/start a campaign for the real thing? > Remember Dave Brock saying that when they recorded in the studio in the > early days they always left the recorders running thus ending up with > "hours" of material so they had to fade out tracks, e.g. Brainstorm, > Lord Of light etc., etc.? Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those > unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? > I look forward to your thoughts, Hawk fans. > Paul. > On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 06:41 pm, Chris Dove wrote: > > > The response has been good keep them coming and I shall compile them > > all > > in about a weeks time to see what is the favourite album. > > > > Now how about the impossible favourite track......only joking!!! > > > > Does anybody have any news on the new single, what about the album and > > what about re-issuing Warrior and the Charisma stuff (I've got the > > vinyl > > but no record deck!!) > > From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sat Jan 24 15:02:08 2004 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:02:08 +0100 Subject: HW:simple question Message-ID: Simple question for all? If EMI won't put out the Syd Barrett stuff,how on earth why should they put out Q,S & C,25 Years,ASAM. Some of you will ask what Charisma has to do with EMI Simple:Virgin bought Charisma and Virgin was then bought by EMI. So it's all up to EMI. Hoping not causing a stir. greetings filip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: Re: what is your top 5 > On a related topic, I read that the Syd Barrett Madcap Society are > currently petitioning EMI with a view to getting all of Syd's studio and > live recordings issued. Of course, one is assuming that EMI still have the > tapes, and that they are still playable.... > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone out there think that E.M.I. short-changed us and the band > > when they did the remastering of The Space Ritual? They had access to > > the original tapes and failed spectacularly when they didn't do the > > whole of the concert. Consequently we end up with the truncated > > versions of Brainstorm and Time We Left...very poor continuity between > > The Awakening/Lord Of Light, Electronic Number One/Orgone Accumulator, > > Brainstorm/Seven By Seven, and a shortened encore (the one from > > Roadhawks). Why don't we all write/start a campaign for the real thing? > > Remember Dave Brock saying that when they recorded in the studio in the > > early days they always left the recorders running thus ending up with > > "hours" of material so they had to fade out tracks, e.g. Brainstorm, > > Lord Of light etc., etc.? Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those > > unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? > > I look forward to your thoughts, Hawk fans. > > Paul. > > On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 06:41 pm, Chris Dove wrote: > > > > > The response has been good keep them coming and I shall compile them > > > all > > > in about a weeks time to see what is the favourite album. > > > > > > Now how about the impossible favourite track......only joking!!! > > > > > > Does anybody have any news on the new single, what about the album and > > > what about re-issuing Warrior and the Charisma stuff (I've got the > > > vinyl > > > but no record deck!!) > > > > > From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jan 24 15:26:12 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chris Dove) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:26:12 -0500 Subject: HW:simple question Message-ID: But EMI do put out the official Syd stuff and have done so in a rather nice box set, what we need is for EMI is to get out the stuff unavailable ie Quark, Warrior, Hawklords etc, they had no trouble with the Epoch- Eclipse release so what is the problem now!!! From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sat Jan 24 16:25:17 2004 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:25:17 +0100 Subject: HW:simple question Message-ID: What you seem to forget how we love our band as much. Syd Barrett sells more ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Dove" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:26 PM Subject: Re: HW:simple question > But EMI do put out the official Syd stuff and have done so in a rather > nice box set, what we need is for EMI is to get out the stuff unavailable > ie Quark, Warrior, Hawklords etc, they had no trouble with the Epoch- > Eclipse release so what is the problem now!!! > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jan 24 16:54:24 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 21:54:24 -0000 Subject: HW:simple question Message-ID: The answer is quite simple: EMI do not own the rights to these albums. Therefore, they cannot release them. Releasing albums, especially back catalogue, is not quite as simple as it may seem. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Dove" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:26 PM Subject: Re: HW:simple question > But EMI do put out the official Syd stuff and have done so in a rather > nice box set, what we need is for EMI is to get out the stuff unavailable > ie Quark, Warrior, Hawklords etc, they had no trouble with the Epoch- > Eclipse release so what is the problem now!!! > From colm.mcwilliams at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Jan 24 17:22:40 2004 From: colm.mcwilliams at NTLWORLD.COM (colm mcwilliams) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:22:40 -0000 Subject: HW:simple question Message-ID: if EMI dont own the rights then who does? i like Filip thought EMI did seeing that they bought virgin and virgin bought charisma and charisma was the original label they came out on. Unless after so many years the rights to these recordings have reverted back to the band or someone has bought the rights off EMI? Has Doug Smith got something to do with this? cheers colm > The answer is quite simple: EMI do not own the rights to these albums. > Therefore, they cannot release them. > > Releasing albums, especially back catalogue, is not quite as simple as it > may seem. > > Colin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Dove" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:26 PM > Subject: Re: HW:simple question > > > > But EMI do put out the official Syd stuff and have done so in a rather > > nice box set, what we need is for EMI is to get out the stuff unavailable > > ie Quark, Warrior, Hawklords etc, they had no trouble with the Epoch- > > Eclipse release so what is the problem now!!! > > > From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sat Jan 24 17:24:26 2004 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:24:26 +0100 Subject: HW:simple question Message-ID: Mea culpa,mea culpa,I assumed things I didn't know about. Very sorry. greetings filip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: Re: HW:simple question > The answer is quite simple: EMI do not own the rights to these albums. > Therefore, they cannot release them. > > Releasing albums, especially back catalogue, is not quite as simple as it > may seem. > > Colin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Dove" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:26 PM > Subject: Re: HW:simple question > > > > But EMI do put out the official Syd stuff and have done so in a rather > > nice box set, what we need is for EMI is to get out the stuff unavailable > > ie Quark, Warrior, Hawklords etc, they had no trouble with the Epoch- > > Eclipse release so what is the problem now!!! > > > > > From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Sat Jan 24 17:33:30 2004 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (mark von bargen) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:33:30 -0000 Subject: HW:simple question In-Reply-To: <002d01c3e2c8$94925360$42776051@IRONDREAM> Message-ID: colm mcwilliams wrote: if EMI dont own the rights then who does? i like Filip thought EMI did seeing that they bought virgin and virgin bought charisma and charisma was the original label they came out on. Unless after so many years the rights to these recordings have reverted back to the band or someone has bought the rights off EMI? Has Doug Smith got something to do with this? cheers colm Allegedly so MArk From GHawkwind63 at AOL.COM Sun Jan 25 01:43:00 2004 From: GHawkwind63 at AOL.COM (Michael Gee) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:43:00 EST Subject: HW:simple question Message-ID: Who ows the rights the the E.M.I. albums? From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Jan 25 08:45:20 2004 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 08:45:20 EST Subject: Harvey Bainbridge... Message-ID: Apologies for the shameless advertising, but I've just put Harvey Bainbridge's Interstellar Chaos CD on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2591510207 Steve. From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Jan 25 09:01:47 2004 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (StevePXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:01:47 EST Subject: To the list owner...Change Email Address.. Message-ID: I'd like to receive all future posts at my main email address which is GutterCat at aol.com Could you do this for me please. Thanks, Steve. From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sun Jan 25 10:48:36 2004 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:48:36 +0000 Subject: Sloterdijk/OEB News: Sloterdijk contributes music for unauthorized 'Strokes' bio Message-ID: Sloterdijk's instrumental number, 'Unnamed Psychedelic Jam II' was used as the soundtrack for a new unauthorized biography/documentary dvd about New York band 'The Strokes'. The song was used in it's entirety for a rather lengthy section pertaining to the '70's influence' on The Strokes' music. The cover and a description of the dvd can be seen be going to the 'Chrome Dreams' homepage and clicking on 'Strokes'. This is a UK release: http://www.chromedreams.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1 From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Jan 25 12:40:08 2004 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:40:08 -0500 Subject: [Hawkwind] - Classic Rock Magazine - Readers Poll Message-ID: there's been quite a lot of "favorite polls" going around the lists recently but are folks aware that Classic Rock magazine have launched a vote to find the readers "Greatest Live Album". Thought it would be a bit of fun as well as hopefully giving the band a bit of a plug if all of those up for it voted for "Space Ritual" as their No 1 album. I don't want to start a thread as to this albums merits, or not as the case maybe but from the results that appear on my facts and figures page http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/factsand.htm it's clear for all to see that SR is not only the majority of fans fave album but a live one to boot. for more information as well as a voting slip that you can copy and print off, click on http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/classic.htm hope people think this is a good idea and with any luck we can get the band a good mention. all the best Dave From paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK Sun Jan 25 13:52:51 2004 From: paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK (pauleatonjones) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:52:51 +0000 Subject: Old masters In-Reply-To: <20040123213036.D14040@telepres.com> Message-ID: On the subject of ownership of master tapes I understand that EMI have offered a huge amount of money to Dave, principally, for the rights to all the Hawkwind back catalogue and all it will need is for Dave, Nik and Douglas to sit down and sign the agreement. Who will blame any of the major players if they do this? Dave has been 'on the road' for a very long time: he, Nik et al have been involved with the band for 34 years so surely they deserve their reward. They aren't selling out. After all they've been ripped-off massively over the years. Does anyone else feel that they appear to have run out of steam, energy and, please forgive me on this, ideas?? I'm quite happy fro them to take the money/rewards just as long as EMI do the right thing by the fans, that is release the back catalogue in FULL, remastered form. I have to say that I don't want them to quit but I'd like to see an injection of....something. They need re-energising. Shoot me down in flames if you like but I'd love to hear people's thoughts. regards, Paul. On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 02:30 am, Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:12:17PM +0000, pauleatonjones wrote: >> Good grief. Am I the only one respondent, so far, who thinks >> that >> Doremi Fasol Latido is one of the finest albums of all time let alone >> one of Hawkwind's greatest? > > Only 'cause I haven't responded yet :-) > > Doremi's production bites, but everything else about the album is > pretty much the quintessence of why I'm a HW fan. The only other > thing wrong with it is there's not enough of it -- which this... > >>>> Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those >>>> unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? > > ...would fix admirably! > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer > wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the > drum kit around during songs. > - Patrick Lenneau > From paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK Sun Jan 25 13:59:58 2004 From: paul at IMRRYR.KAROO.CO.UK (pauleatonjones) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:59:58 +0000 Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How about favourite tour(s)? My first - The Ridiculous Roadshow 1974 (28th Jan as it happens) 1979 Winter Live Chronicles Hawkestra Leeds Spring 2001 But then all have been fabulous. Except of course those with Ginger Baker in 1980 and his insistence on that interminable, non-Hawkwind drum solo during Brainstorm. I think he dragged it out from The Toad from back in1969. Paul. On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 09:53 am, Michael Gee wrote: > The Masters > Spirit of the Age > The Best Of > In The Beginning > Cosmic Overdrive > > because there really all the same bloody CD > From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 25 14:33:39 2004 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:33:39 -0000 Subject: HW: Old masters Message-ID: I think its stretching it quite a lot to suggest that Nik has been involved in the band for 34 years, to be honest, Paul! And sadly, though I'd love to believe that EMI have a "huge" amount of money to stump-up for the Hawkwind catalogue, as they've already successfully completed a major reissue programme for the UA-era I can't, personally, imagine they would such make a major investment as you are suggesting, again. Hope I'm very wrong, though! Heck, with a new album in the works and two new biographical appraisals due in 2004, anything can happen! Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "pauleatonjones" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: Re: Old masters > On the subject of ownership of master tapes I understand that EMI have > offered a huge amount of money to Dave, principally, for the rights to > all the Hawkwind back catalogue and all it will need is for Dave, Nik > and Douglas to sit down and sign the agreement. Who will blame any of > the major players if they do this? Dave has been 'on the road' for a > very long time: he, Nik et al have been involved with the band for 34 > years so surely they deserve their reward. They aren't selling out. > After all they've been ripped-off massively over the years. Does anyone > else feel that they appear to have run out of steam, energy and, please > forgive me on this, ideas?? I'm quite happy fro them to take the > money/rewards just as long as EMI do the right thing by the fans, that > is release the back catalogue in FULL, remastered form. I have to say > that I don't want them to quit but I'd like to see an injection > of....something. They need re-energising. Shoot me down in flames if > you like but I'd love to hear people's thoughts. > regards, Paul. > On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 02:30 am, Eric Siegerman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:12:17PM +0000, pauleatonjones wrote: > >> Good grief. Am I the only one respondent, so far, who thinks > >> that > >> Doremi Fasol Latido is one of the finest albums of all time let alone > >> one of Hawkwind's greatest? > > > > Only 'cause I haven't responded yet :-) > > > > Doremi's production bites, but everything else about the album is > > pretty much the quintessence of why I'm a HW fan. The only other > > thing wrong with it is there's not enough of it -- which this... > > > >>>> Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those > >>>> unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? > > > > ...would fix admirably! > > > > -- > > > > | | /\ > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > | | / > > It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer > > wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the > > drum kit around during songs. > > - Patrick Lenneau > > > > From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Sun Jan 25 14:52:07 2004 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:52:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Top 5/Old masters Message-ID: Paul said... >On the subject of ownership of master tapes I understand that EMI >have offered a huge amount of money to Dave, principally, for the >rights to all the Hawkwind back catalogue and all it will need is >for Dave, Nik and Douglas to sit down and sign the agreement. Before any great discussion of this ensues...I suppose someone should ask if this is actually true. There are those here that know, certainly. And anyway, how much is "all"? The HW back catalogue is a hefty and complex beast, yeah? >Does anyone else feel that they appear to have run out of steam, >energy and, please forgive me on this, ideas?? I have to say >that I don't want them to quit but I'd like to see an injection >of....something. They need re-energising. Shoot me down in flames >if you like but I'd love to hear people's thoughts. Um....ok, interesting timing. This sort of opinion has been occasionally touched on here over the last five years given the heavy ratio of live & archive releases vs. actual new studio material. But you know, there *is* a new album ready to be released. Seems to me to be prudent to wait a couple months and here what the new album has to say about their current energy level. I know two of the tracks at least, and so far, so good. Stephe (2nd) answered Chriz, with... >>By the way The Watcher is great on Spaced out in London, I really >>do think Alan Davey should tackle other Lemmy greats ie Lost Johnny >Why should Alan bother? He's much better than Lemmy. He's good >enough to not waste his time on covers. While not intending to spark an Alan-vs-Lemmy debate (BTW, are you comparing Alan 2004-to-Lemmy 2004 or Alan 2004-to-Lemmy 1974?), you should note with some irony that Alan has a second job (or actually 3rd to be accurate) playing in a Motorhead cover band. Certainly that's well-reported here. Why bother indeed? And anyway, I think it's pretty clear that Alan in many ways seems to emulate Lemmy, even so much as to orient his microphone just so. I'm not going to slag that shtick (the way the music *sounds* is the critical thing), but one might argue even that he's essentially a 'cover' bassist, in the way that "Rock Star" Tim Owens was a 'cover' vocalist for Rob Halford. Not me, though. :) BTW, FWIW, at Hawkestra, I thought that Lemmy was able to recreate his old self as well as (or even better than) all of the others on stage. Frankly, I was surprised. Pity the rehearsals weren't enough to keep it all together during all three hours (and then there was the on-stage sound/monitor problem, or so it seemed). But then, until Doug 'gives up' the tapes, I guess that show will be lost forever. ----------------------------------------- Agreed on the previous Doremi argument...all the better versions are on Space Ritual. So...just to make the statistics more complete... Warrior on the Edge of Time Space Ritual Levitation Quark, Strangeness, and Charm Electric Tepee Yeah, a pretty 'standard' list...sorry to be so boring. ------------------------------------------ On the issue of who owns what.... What's the deal with Snapper and licensing? I continue to see heaps of these budget 2CD releases by Snapper (or Recall, or whatever they call themselves these days). I assume that they pay some sort of 'one-time' fee for this stuff (I know so little about the music business, to be honest), and that they hardly have any true ownership of this music, eh? So, that begs the question, if some *other* label wanted to release material that is oop (say, 25 Yrs. On, or whatever you like) but is owned by some other company/label that was reluctant to do it itself for whatever reason (not worth it financially, for instance), then why doesn't this happen (more)? Couldn't it be done as a 'one-off' re-issue, meaning the other label would only be allowed to issue it under a single-payment license fee that would expire in a short time? (And hence, the actual ownership remain as is?) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Is it just me, or are others finding it more and more difficult to distinguish Martha Stewart from David Bowie? P.P.S. Thankfully, this list (though being periodically quiet and lacking a certain impetus for spirited discussion, this past week being an exception...though again there's that new album promised!) has avoided any and all (well, almost) recent socio- political discussions, despite the world becoming an increasingly strange place. So, not wanting at all to end this trend (and make Ben have to exercise his fingers), I'll just say the following meaningless editorial remark....for me, what sums up the nature of the world today, is that if I decide to turn on the TV to CNN at 10 PM (I think it is) local time (CET) on a weekday, I see the same thing. The ceremonial closing of the Wall Street stock market...a crowd of 20 or so fancy-dressed pencil-pushers standing around some 'VIP' or minor celebrity, smiling and clapping vigorously while this 'chosen one' does the honor (?) of pressing and holding down a button that rings the stupid bell. wow...what drama. *This* is a photo-op that warrants live coverage around the globe on a daily basis? Well, at least I don't have to look at that weird cube-headed dude anymore, since they dumped his ass out of the business for some strange reason. P.P.P.S. All my PS remarks themselves are as inane as that which I rail about...so please feel free to ignore my peculiarities. I know you do anyway. I really should get out more. :) P.P.P.P.S. The words "Helios Creed" of "Chrome" were spoken on CNN International (their special music program) last night...I'm shocked. Some HORRID band that named themselves after one of his tracks. They sounded like 1983 New Wave rubbish. *Why* were they Chrome fans?? From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Jan 25 15:47:29 2004 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:47:29 -0600 Subject: Old masters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >On the subject of ownership of master tapes I understand that EMI have >offered a huge amount of money to Dave, principally, for the rights to >all the Hawkwind back catalogue and all it will need is for Dave, Nik >and Douglas to sit down and sign the agreement. Who will blame any of >the major players if they do this? Dave has been 'on the road' for a >very long time: he, Nik et al have been involved with the band for 34 >years so surely they deserve their reward. They aren't selling out. >After all they've been ripped-off massively over the years. >Does anyone else feel that they appear to have run out of steam, energy and, please >forgive me on this, ideas?? Nope. I think they've been delivering some stunning live performances with plenty of energy to go around and no lack of steam. The new material is a pleasure, particulary 'Angela Android' (no lack of energy there!)And I can't wait for the new CD. As to the rest, well that's all the bands business. Give them the space and let them do what they need to do. Rich From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 25 16:17:07 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 21:17:07 -0000 Subject: Old masters Message-ID: I would be fascinated to know what led you to that understanding. ----- Original Message ----- From: "pauleatonjones" To: Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 6:52 PM Subject: Re: Old masters > On the subject of ownership of master tapes I understand that EMI have > offered a huge amount of money to Dave, principally, for the rights to > all the Hawkwind back catalogue and all it will need is for Dave, Nik > and Douglas to sit down and sign the agreement. Who will blame any of > the major players if they do this? Dave has been 'on the road' for a > very long time: he, Nik et al have been involved with the band for 34 > years so surely they deserve their reward. They aren't selling out. > After all they've been ripped-off massively over the years. Does anyone > else feel that they appear to have run out of steam, energy and, please > forgive me on this, ideas?? I'm quite happy fro them to take the > money/rewards just as long as EMI do the right thing by the fans, that > is release the back catalogue in FULL, remastered form. I have to say > that I don't want them to quit but I'd like to see an injection > of....something. They need re-energising. Shoot me down in flames if > you like but I'd love to hear people's thoughts. > regards, Paul. > On Saturday, January 24, 2004, at 02:30 am, Eric Siegerman wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:12:17PM +0000, pauleatonjones wrote: > >> Good grief. Am I the only one respondent, so far, who thinks > >> that > >> Doremi Fasol Latido is one of the finest albums of all time let alone > >> one of Hawkwind's greatest? > > > > Only 'cause I haven't responded yet :-) > > > > Doremi's production bites, but everything else about the album is > > pretty much the quintessence of why I'm a HW fan. The only other > > thing wrong with it is there's not enough of it -- which this... > > > >>>> Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those > >>>> unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? > > > > ...would fix admirably! > > > > -- > > > > | | /\ > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > | | / > > It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer > > wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the > > drum kit around during songs. > > - Patrick Lenneau > > > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jan 25 19:37:57 2004 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 19:37:57 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New Reviews + Magic Cat Radio show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (January 25, 2004): We've just uploaded a load of new Reviews and a new Aural Innovations Space Rock radio show. Thanks to DeeJay Copelinn, Brian Faulkner, Frank Gingeleit, Louis Hesselt-van-Dinter, Keith Henderson, Charles Van de Kree, Mike Reed, Scott Heller and Doug Walker for their review contributions. Next week the January 2004 issue of Aural Innovations will go online. This will be Aural Innovations issue #26 and will compile all the reviews, articles and interviews we published on the What's New page since October, plus a few new goodies. The new Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio show is the fourth edition of Magic Cat Radio, hosted by Kev Ellis of Dr Brown and Magic Cat. The show, entitled Robot Machine Attenuation Pt's 1-7, features a live improvised performance recorded in one afternoon, December 3, 2004 in Portsmouth UK and is a killer set of SPACE Blues. Check it out. You can go directly to the Radio Shows page at http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html Among the new reviews is concert coverage of Hawkwind, Mr Quimby's Beard, Korai Orom and The Davolinas, plus reviews of Escapade, Acid Mothers Temple, Alien Planetscapes, ST 37, Marble Sheep, Spirit Caravan, Seid, First Band >From Outerspace, Zaam, Truckfighers, Firestone, Diatonis, Dac Crowell, Brain Police, Walls Of Genius, Little Fyodor, Arthur Loves Plastic, The Stonage Hearts, The Embrooks, The Creatures Of The Golden Dawn, Curlee Wurlee, Les Slow Slushy Boys, The Iditarod, Book Of Shadows, Seven That Spells, Hal McGee, Twelve, Lycia, Small Life Form, Jamie Barnes, Orquestra Del Desierto, Joseph Benzola, Luigi Archetti, Terminus Victor, Morpheus, Solution Science Systems, Radio Free Clearlight, Larry Kucharz, John Edmonds, Addison Project, Amaron, Hellblock 6, Northern Liberties, Myles Of Destrution, Abiku, The Mark Varney Project, Glenn Huges and Joe Lynn Turner. http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 26 07:02:25 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:02:25 GMT Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: pauleatonjones's message of Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:31:31 +0000 Message-ID: pauleatonjones writes: > As a few people have included their five least favourite albums I > thought I might as well post mine. > Business Trip Live ( ditto ) I just don't get this. I reckon it's Space Ritual quality in terms of a live album. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 26 07:16:22 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:16:22 GMT Subject: Old masters In-Reply-To: pauleatonjones's message of Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:52:51 +0000 Message-ID: pauleatonjones writes: > Does anyone > else feel that they appear to have run out of steam, energy and, please > forgive me on this, ideas?? Dead wrong I think. In recent times they've set up the Hawkfests which have been a great opportunity for fans to get together and see some fine bands. They've put on some absolutely stunning gigs. New tracks like Angela Android are developing to rival olf favourites such as LSD, and even when they reuse stuff, such as Where Are They Now? and the combination of Seeing It As You Really Are and Earth Calling, they manage to put real new feeling into it. I'm disapppointed by the news that neither will be on the new album and hope at least to see a live release of them soon. If Hawkwind have run out of steam it's because they went nuclear. FoFP From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Mon Jan 26 07:17:43 2004 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:17:43 +0100 Subject: HW:ICU covers Message-ID: Hello all, Have made covers for the ICU Salford 19-02-1985 myself If you want them,e-mail me privately. greetings Filip.Vanhuyse at pandora.be From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Jan 26 10:02:43 2004 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:02:43 EST Subject: Old masters Message-ID: In a message dated 1/25/2004 4:16:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > On the subject of ownership of master tapes I understand that EMI have > >offered a huge amount of money to Dave, principally, for the rights to > >all the Hawkwind back catalogue and all it will need is for Dave, Nik > >and Douglas to sit down and sign the agreement. Outside of royalties explain to me exactly where Nik fits in regarding the sharing of the HUGE amount of money offered by the sale of the back catalogue? Nice hearing from you, Mother Turner:) Bill From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Jan 26 11:11:13 2004 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:11:13 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: "It's been ten years..." In-Reply-To: <61.3a553028.2d468613@aol.com> Message-ID: Wow. A decade of brain surgeons and Cellsum Records! Congratulations!!! Back to the flu J From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jan 26 12:53:52 2004 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:53:52 -0500 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to Message-ID: In the CD player this weekend: Tsurubami - Kaina F/i - Blue Star / Merge Parlour Gravitar - Chinga Su Corazon Skullflower - Infinityland (does anyone have a copy of Obsidian Shaking Codex they can dupe/trade?) Godflesh - Hymns (recorded & mixed at Foel Studio, Wales w/ engineer Dave Anderson!) V/A - Greasy Trucker's Party 2002/2003 (CDR of Nik + friends) Jethro Tull - The Christmas Album King Crimson - Live at the Zoom Club (KCCC20) Doktor Kettu - Kriegsphilosophie Hawkwind - Weird Tapes #3 - Free Festivals And some vinyl as well: ST 37 - taboo / hoodoo Saint Vitus - Hallow's Victim Paul Robeson - Spirituals Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jan 26 12:55:50 2004 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:55:50 -0500 Subject: Old masters Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 pauleatonjones wrote: >> Good grief. Am I the only one respondent, so far, who >> thinks that Doremi Fasol Latido is one of the finest albums >> of all time let alone one of Hawkwind's greatest? > >Only 'cause I haven't responded yet :-) Second that. >Doremi's production bites, I disagree here, I think that the muddy wall of sound is essential to the impact the album has, plus I really love it so there! >but everything XXXXelseXXXX about the album is >pretty much the quintessence of why I'm a HW fan. Second that. >The only other >thing wrong with it is there's not enough of it -- which this... > >> >> Now wouldn't it be wonderful to have those >> >> unedited versions released to the hard-core fans? > >...would fix admirably! > Second that. I really really really want Nik and Dave to make nice so that at least one barrier to the release of historical recordings like these would not exist. Even if they only came out via something like the Collectors Series, or a fan club type limited CDRs as has already been proposed by Colin. Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jan 26 13:00:40 2004 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:00:40 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 pauleatonjones wrote: > I actually think that Bring Me The Head.... is a fairly good album. >Texts Of festival is fabulous, I wish that side four of the vinyl l.p. >had been transfered to c.d. Absolutely, Text presents for us the genesis of spacerock in all its extended druggy glory, and I've already defended Yuri here - its a bootleg, so you have to adjust for the crap sound and judge it on the performance which is fantastic. > Does anyone out there think that E.M.I. short-changed us and the band >when they did the remastering of The Space Ritual? They had access to >the original tapes and failed spectacularly when they didn't do the >whole of the concert. I disagree here, EMI was reissuing an ALBUM so they should and did put out the album as it was, with the extras tacked on at the end. The full show could be released separately, probably as part of a Collector Series deal since there would be so much overlap that an official release could be considered exploitation - but then look at the catalog anyway. However, I think we and the band DID get shortchanged by the Cleopatra reissue of Space Ritual Vol 2.0, at least musicwise (the packaging is among the best HW has). They were rumored to be releasing the whole concert (and if you read the liner notes I think the scribe they recruited was under that impression too) but ended up only giving us what was already available (multiple times) via the Dave Anderson clone factory. Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jan 26 13:13:47 2004 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:13:47 -0500 Subject: What is your Top Five? Message-ID: Number 1: Space Ritual Number 2-5 in no particular order: In Search of Space Doremi Fasol Latido Hall of the Mountain Grill Warrior on the Edge of Time This does make it look like I don't appreciate their later work, but that's not at all true - I just think that at this point in time they were not just creating great music but also creating something new that is influential to this day, and though the same could be said of QS&C, Levitation, and the RCA albums, I have a slight personal preference for the chaotic (and analog) edge present on their earlier stuff. Some other contenders - Complete Live 79, Palace Springs, Live 1990, IITBOTFTBD / Business Trip / White Zone. Stephan From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jan 26 13:24:06 2004 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:24:06 -0500 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Stephan Forstner wrote: > In the CD player this weekend: [...] > Jethro Tull - The Christmas Album How is Ian Anderson's voice on this one? Also, do the re-recordings live up to the originals? I've just had an Eric Bloom/"Cult Classics" deja vu. Brian What this Hawkfan has been listening to: The Hi-Risers - Lost Weekend Deep Purple - Bananas The Bevis Frond - Valedictory Songs The Bevis Frond - What Did For the Dinosaurs The Mars Volta - De-lousing at the Comatorium From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Jan 26 14:48:15 2004 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:48:15 -0500 Subject: HW: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >(multiple times) via the Dave Anderson clone factory. ...That must be where the subject of the 2nd verse of "spirit of the age" comes from, as well as being the source of Calvert's bombweilding dislike in Wage War. Now it all makes sense. top5 songs: Time we left... on Doremi, The continuation of brainstorm's fade out on space ritual 2, URban Guerilla on Yuri -- when he screams do it! you know he means it, nothing off of Warrior (just doesn't have the drive of the albs up to that point, or after), Hawklords Live. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 26 15:30:11 2004 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:30:11 -0000 Subject: Old masters Message-ID: errrrm...shurely shume mishtake here. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: Re: Old masters > In a message dated 1/25/2004 4:16:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, > colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > > > On the subject of ownership of master tapes I understand that EMI have > > >offered a huge amount of money to Dave, principally, for the rights to > > >all the Hawkwind back catalogue and all it will need is for Dave, Nik > > >and Douglas to sit down and sign the agreement. > > Outside of royalties explain to me exactly where Nik fits in regarding the > sharing of the HUGE amount of money offered by the sale of the back catalogue? > Nice hearing from you, Mother Turner:) > > Bill > From jmajk at INDY.RR.COM Mon Jan 26 16:20:38 2004 From: jmajk at INDY.RR.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:20:38 -0500 Subject: Old masters Message-ID: Even if EMI wanted the back catalog (which I don't believe they do), a "huge sum of money" probably amounts to no more than $50,000 or maybe $100,000 dollars--enough for a single band member to live on for a year. Hawkwind's catalog probably isn't profitable enough for them to spend any amount on, however. > errrrm...shurely shume mishtake here. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: Old masters > > > > In a message dated 1/25/2004 4:16:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > > > > > On the subject of ownership of master tapes I understand that EMI have > > > >offered a huge amount of money to Dave, principally, for the rights to > > > >all the Hawkwind back catalogue and all it will need is for Dave, Nik > > > >and Douglas to sit down and sign the agreement. > > > > Outside of royalties explain to me exactly where Nik fits in regarding the > > sharing of the HUGE amount of money offered by the sale of the back > catalogue? > > Nice hearing from you, Mother Turner:) > > > > Bill > > From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Mon Jan 26 16:49:47 2004 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Alogilvy at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:49:47 EST Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to Message-ID: Oh well, if we're doing "What else is a hawkfan listening to" as well, I'll play too !! Someone said that they dont mind doing this again as the list always changes, and I'll agree with that most definitely. HW top 5 (At this moment in the space time continuum, of course...) 1. Zones....I'm currently in love with it!..Probably Coz I havent played it for years, and I'm in a Huwie mood at present ! 2. lord of light...From space ritual...Hits the spot right now. 3. Space ritual 2....Ok we've all slagged dave anderson off before, but sometimes (Only sometimes), listening to this makes me forgive and forget. 4. Stonehenge do not panic....Great atmosphere, and the noodly stuff (decoded) and "Grass grow" just make me yearn for free festies !! 5. Undisclosed files.....Just what the live HW experience is all about. (i've just noticed that this is the most calvert-less list I've ever done!! only one track and one album) And now ...The "I cant believe its not HW!!" moment... 1. Jaco pastorius Punk Jazz....Especially the Pat metheny group track "Midwestern nights dream"...OK yes, i'm a bass player. 2.Cosmic rough riders ... Melodic sunshine, (And "Justify the rain" off "Too close to see far") 3. Audioslave....THE best rock supergroup since..oooh , who knows. 4. Television...Marquee moon...Classic , what else can you say?? 5. Julian cope...Floored Genius...Both 1 and 2 (Cant make up me mind!) All the best chaps and chapesses !! Al From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 26 17:56:54 2004 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:56:54 +0000 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' In-Reply-To: <001601c3ac8e$d0788a40$f534883e@default> Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: > 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the Xitintoday. > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 > Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > > >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: > > > >> Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI Steve > Hillage > >> Compilation 'Light in the Sky' > >> > >> What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b > side > >> collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is just > a > >> phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is truly > awesome. > > > > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when > >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would > >they? I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make it to the web, you never know. Yours, Jon ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Mon Jan 26 19:18:41 2004 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:18:41 -0500 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 Brian Halligan wrote: >> In the CD player this weekend: >> Jethro Tull - The Christmas Album > >How is Ian Anderson's voice on this one? Also, do the re-recordings live up >to the originals? > >I've just had an Eric Bloom/"Cult Classics" deja vu. Erm, I'd have to say that Eric does a better job of impersonating himself on CC than Ian does on TCA. OK, that wording is a bit snarky and will annoy some people, the singers not least, so, sorry, but you know what I mean. Actually, on first listen, I was thinking that Ian's vocals were better than they had a right to be, but when I listened more closely I realized that I was so familiar with those songs that my subconscious was filling in stuff that wasn't there. Also on first listen the re-recordings (and new stuff) sounded a bit too Adult Contemporary for my tastes, but I find that they have grown on me quite a lot - this disc isn't going to make the greatest Tull albums list though, not by any stretch. So I'm a bit ambivalent about it, but its not bad, in a slightly 'mature', slightly jazzy, slightly over-produced way. Stephan From chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK Mon Jan 26 15:48:32 2004 From: chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK (Chaos Illumination) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:48:32 -0000 Subject: OFF: Spacehead Message-ID: Hi all, Just to let those who are interested know - there are two Spacehead gigs lined up for February. 27th Feb - Felixstowe, Lix's Bar. 28th Feb - Buxton, The George Hotel. If you want any more information - check out Spacehead's website on www.spacehead-lab23.co.uk This is a new domain name for the band's site as the old one was discontinued a few weeks back. Also - I'd like to pass on Mr Dibs thanks to all those who went to the Walthamstow gig at The Standard. He rarely gets access to the internet - rest assured, I pass on all comments to him though and he was really pleased with all the good feedback he has had from both the BOC list and the Yahoo list. Regards, Marie From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Jan 26 22:16:32 2004 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael B) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:46:32 +1030 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan has for breakfast Message-ID: never really get up early enough for breakfast - but on the odd occassion that I do and could really be fucked eating anything - eggs and toast and maybe some juice and a cigarette after..... ----------------------------------- Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) http://www.alien-dream.com ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Forstner" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 4:23 AM Subject: Re: HW: What A hawkfan listens to > In the CD player this weekend: > Tsurubami - Kaina > F/i - Blue Star / Merge Parlour > Gravitar - Chinga Su Corazon > Skullflower - Infinityland > (does anyone have a copy of Obsidian > Shaking Codex they can dupe/trade?) > Godflesh - Hymns > (recorded & mixed at Foel Studio, Wales > w/ engineer Dave Anderson!) > V/A - Greasy Trucker's Party 2002/2003 > (CDR of Nik + friends) > Jethro Tull - The Christmas Album > King Crimson - Live at the Zoom Club (KCCC20) > Doktor Kettu - Kriegsphilosophie > Hawkwind - Weird Tapes #3 - Free Festivals > > And some vinyl as well: > ST 37 - taboo / hoodoo > Saint Vitus - Hallow's Victim > Paul Robeson - Spirituals > > Stephan > From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Tue Jan 27 07:52:50 2004 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:52:50 -0000 Subject: HW : Top 5 Message-ID: In no specific order: Hawkwind Space Ritual Choose Your Masques Electric Teepee Alien 4 .. except maybe date order! Maxine From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 27 18:14:50 2004 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 23:14:50 -0000 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' Message-ID: Alan Powell and Andy Anderson are on there too! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: 26 January 2004 23:41 Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: > >> 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the Xitintoday. >> Dave >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jon Jarrett >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 >> Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >> >> >> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: >> > >> >> Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI Steve >> Hillage >> >> Compilation 'Light in the Sky' >> >> >> >> What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b >> side >> >> collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is just >> a >> >> phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is truly >> awesome. >> > >> > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when >> >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would >> >they? > > I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I >know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make >it to the web, you never know. Yours, > Jon > >ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ >-- > Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk > "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, > So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." > (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) > From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Tue Jan 27 19:02:37 2004 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:02:37 -0600 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday In-Reply-To: <002f01c3e52b$5e3cc060$2f16883e@default> Message-ID: EBS sneaked out 'Xitintoday' on CD in 1997 with very little promotion. It does have an interesting selection of people performing on it. One CD featuring Nik that sometimes people forget about is 'Fairy Tales' by Mother Gong, he's credited as playing Muzma + Oboe. Fairy Tales is pretty much what it says it is, 3 Fairy Tales set to Music by Harry Williamson and Gilli Smyth. (Note: If you have money, and have a choice of Mother Gong CDs, buy 'Eye' instead it's a better album, or even better Gilli Smyths solo LP, 'Mother' recorded in Deya with Daevid. ;-) Rich -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:15 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' Alan Powell and Andy Anderson are on there too! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: 26 January 2004 23:41 Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: > >> 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the Xitintoday. >> Dave >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jon Jarrett >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >> Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 >> Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >> >> >> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: >> > >> >> Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI Steve >> Hillage >> >> Compilation 'Light in the Sky' >> >> >> >> What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b >> side >> >> collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is just >> a >> >> phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is truly >> awesome. >> > >> > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when >> >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would >> >they? > > I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I >know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make >it to the web, you never know. Yours, > Jon > >ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ >-- > Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk > "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, > So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." > (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) > From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Wed Jan 28 04:45:48 2004 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:45:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Was this the guy... Message-ID: that someone was talking about at those Hawkwind concerts, that was ruining it for everyone? http://www.theonion.com/4004/news2.html Grakkl (FAA) From GHawkwind63 at AOL.COM Wed Jan 28 11:48:11 2004 From: GHawkwind63 at AOL.COM (Michael Gee) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:48:11 EST Subject: HW: Was this the guy... Message-ID: In a message dated 28/01/04 09:46:51 GMT Standard Time, keith.henderson at PSI.CH writes: > that someone was talking about at those Hawkwind concerts, > wot did the guy do @ the hawkwind gigs? From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 28 14:58:34 2004 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:58:34 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:02:25 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >pauleatonjones writes: > >> As a few people have included their five least favourite albums I >> thought I might as well post mine. >> Business Trip Live ( ditto ) > >I just don't get this. I reckon it's Space Ritual quality in terms of a >live album. I thought more highly of it when it first came out, but I think it suffers from having the 3-person lineup. There's just too much "pre-programmed" material on it. Much of it has the feel of the band playing along with canned backing tracks, while one of the things I like most about Hawkwind (especially live) is their ability to "go off", jam a bit, mix things up, throw in some variety, etc. That's just not possible when the musicians have to worry about synchronizing their playing to precise, fixed, cues and tempos. There are a few parts of the album where I get (perhaps erroneously) the impression that *only* pre-programmed/pre-recorded backing tracks are playing and the band are actually taking a smoke break. I'm not saying that *using* pre-programmed material is bad (to some extent the band pioneered this in the late 1970's with things like the sequencer usage on "Forge Of Vulcan"), only that *relying* on it is. I think Hawkwind is MUCH better off with *real* synth (Kniveton) and/or keyboard (House/Blake) players, as with recent lineups (the Canterbury live album is fantastic, and I can't wait to hear the new Spaced-Out one!). Although I think that the band has also gotten much better at integrating "backing-tracked" material with "completely-real" material into their live set since the Business Trip tour. Oh yeah, and my top 5 as of today (no particular order): Space Ritual Warrior Quark Hawklords Live Nottingham 1990 -Doug (just back from Germany ... again ...) jasret at mindspring.com P.S. Nice to see some serious discussion on the list this week! From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 28 15:03:36 2004 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:03:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: what is your top 5 Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:14:45 -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >On a related topic, I read that the Syd Barrett Madcap Society are >currently petitioning EMI with a view to getting all of Syd's studio and >live recordings issued. Of course, one is assuming that EMI still have the >tapes, and that they are still playable.... They managed to find the take with Syd of Kevin Ayers' "Singing a Song In The Morning" for the recent reissue of 'Joy Of A Toy', so that would seem to bode well for this possibility ... (and with today's technology, if the tape exists at all, it can be *made* playable, and then "fixed" pretty well digitally) (now, if they could only officially release the Pink Floyd recordings of "King Bee", "Lucy Leave", "Scream thy Last Scream" and "Vegetable Man" ...) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 28 15:18:20 2004 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:18:20 -0500 Subject: HW: underrated tracks (was what is your top 5) Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:31:31 +0000, pauleatonjones wrote: > As a few people have included their five least favourite albums I >thought I might as well post mine. [snip] > Xenon Codex ( apart from Head and Good Evening) Totally agree on those songs! "Good Evening" is one of my top "underrated" HW tracks. The complete list for me would be: Children of the Sun Web Weaver It's So Easy Demented Man Kings of Speed Back on the Streets Fable of a Failed Race Living on a Knife Edge Good Evening Phetamine Street I'd love to hear any of these resurrected in Hawkwind's current set (although obviously the first and last won't happen!). > I actually think that Bring Me The Head.... is a fairly good album. ... if only they had released the entire concert! (I agree about Bob's great performance on "Urban Guerilla", although I slightly prefer his manic delivery with rant-in-the-middle on the Hawklords Weird tape.) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 28 15:27:50 2004 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:27:50 -0500 Subject: Great thread!....least 5..anyone? Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:53:35 EST, Michael Gee wrote: >The Masters >Spirit of the Age >The Best Of >In The Beginning >Cosmic Overdrive > >because there really all the same bloody CD An EXCELLENT reason! To make things more difficult, my list excludes live albums and compilation/"mish-mash" albums like 'Out & Intake', 'Zones' or 'In Your Area' (all of which are worse than the ones I list, although IYA is redeemed to a large extent by the great "Hippy"): Hawkwind (not really fair, but I rarely listen to it) Church of Hawkwind (should be called a Dave Brock solo album) Xenon Codex (horrid 80s production, bad drumming, forgettable songs) Electric TP (see my comment on 'The Business Trip') IitBotFtbD (ditto) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jan 28 15:40:42 2004 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:40:42 -0500 Subject: HW: What A hawkfan listens to Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:53:52 -0500, Stephan Forstner wrote: >In the CD player this weekend: [snip] > Skullflower - Infinityland > (does anyone have a copy of Obsidian > Shaking Codex they can dupe/trade?) Yes. :^D (well, 99% sure) Although 'Ruins', the first CD, is their best IMHO. some of the CD's that were with my on the airplane (some are CD-R comps I made): Robert Wyatt solo/Matching Mole - 1970s compilation Cheater Slicks - Forgive Thee Miles Davis - excerpts from 'Jack Johnson' sessions box Dead Moon - recorded live in San Francisco 2003 Johnny Cash - 'live at Folsom Prison' Pretty Things - BBC 1965-1970 Dangerhouse vols. 1 & 2 (LA punk label feat. Weirdos, X, Bags, etc.) Chrome - Chronicles I & II Epoxies - s/t plus singles (current US "neo-new wave" band) Kevin Ayers - various BBC 1970-1972 "Kill Bob Seeger Right Now" - comp of current US garage/punk/indie Motorhead - 1996-2002 (4th CD of the new box set) Hawkwind - best of 1970-75 -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed Jan 28 17:08:54 2004 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Alogilvy at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:08:54 EST Subject: HW: underrated tracks (was what is your top 5) Message-ID: What a selection Doug !!!! totally agree with all of them. From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 28 17:13:08 2004 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:13:08 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:58:34 -0500, Doug Pearson wrote: >On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:02:25 GMT, M Holmes wrote: >>pauleatonjones writes: >> >>> As a few people have included their five least favourite albums I >>> thought I might as well post mine. >>> Business Trip Live ( ditto ) >> >>I just don't get this. I reckon it's Space Ritual quality in terms of a >>live album. I don't think it's anywhere near that good, but I do like it quite a bit, mainly because it contains a fair amount of interesting music that simply isn't available elsewhere, and the "Berlin" section is one of HW's best stabs at techno-ish electronica - something they're not generally very good at, IMHO, despite numerous attempts. (The best bit of techno I've heard from HW was in the mid-section of Hassan I Sabbah at the Brighton gig in late 2002, and I do hope they played it the same way at Walthamstow the next night, so that it will be on the new CD). > >I thought more highly of it when it first came out, but I think it suffers >from having the 3-person lineup. There's just too much "pre-programmed" >material on it. Much of it has the feel of the band playing along with >canned backing tracks Agreed- but it may sound more like that than would have been the case at the actual gig(s)- it's definitely had some tweaking: check out that canned cheering which crops up for no apparent reason at various points in the middle of songs! >I think Hawkwind is MUCH better off with *real* synth (Kniveton) and/or >keyboard (House/Blake) players Amen, though I'm not such a fan of Tim's playing. >,as with recent lineups (the Canterbury >live album is fantastic, and I can't wait to hear the new Spaced-Out >one!). Although I think that the band has also gotten much better at >integrating "backing-tracked" material with "completely-real" material >into their live set since the Business Trip tour. This was a slight problem at the recent Xmas party show though, fine gig though it was. I definitely remember thinking during "Space is their Palestine", hang on, they're just playing the record over the PA! Anyway, my top 5 FWIW (not sure if this has changed since last time we did this, but anyway): Space Ritual Quark Hall of the Mountain Grill Doremi PXR5 as for the "least 5" debate... I exclude Yuri from this as it seems to me that only official releases should really be considered. I can only really come up with a "least 4": Family Tree Space Bandits Alien 4 Xenon Codex ... but I do feel that just about all the studio albums from Xenon Codex onwards (with the exception of the excellent Electric Tepee) are relatively weak, though they all have the odd strong track too. I know lots of you really rate Alien 4, but there we are- yet again this debate has shown the diversity of tastes among HW fans. And Doremi being described as "boring" is possibly the most extraordinary thing I've ever read on this list! Nick From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Jan 28 17:43:03 2004 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:43:03 -0000 Subject: OFF: The Motors Message-ID: Sorry for another off-topic post, but I don't suppose anyone's got the lyrics to "Dancing The Night Away" by The Motors have they? (I know it's not exactly BOC/HW stylee, but this is the only music list I'm on!) A pint, virtual or real, for anyone who can help! :-) Cheers, Rich. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 28 16:59:35 2004 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:59:35 -0000 Subject: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday Message-ID: I beg to differ! Fairy Tales is much better - I remember when it came out there was a bit of talk about whether or not the cover was based on Nik. DAVE -----Original Message----- From: Rich To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: 28 January 2004 01:52 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday >EBS sneaked out 'Xitintoday' on CD in 1997 with very little promotion. It >does have an interesting selection of people performing on it. > >One CD featuring Nik that sometimes people forget about is 'Fairy Tales' by >Mother Gong, he's credited as playing Muzma + Oboe. > >Fairy Tales is pretty much what it says it is, 3 Fairy Tales set to Music by >Harry Williamson and Gilli Smyth. > >(Note: If you have money, and have a choice of Mother Gong CDs, buy 'Eye' >instead it's a better album, or even better Gilli Smyths solo LP, 'Mother' >recorded in Deya with Daevid. ;-) > > >Rich > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:15 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >Alan Powell and Andy Anderson are on there too! > >Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Jarrett >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Date: 26 January 2004 23:41 >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: >> >>> 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the >Xitintoday. >>> Dave >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jon Jarrett >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 >>> Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >>> >>> >>> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: >>> > >>> >> Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI >Steve >>> Hillage >>> >> Compilation 'Light in the Sky' >>> >> >>> >> What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b >>> side >>> >> collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is >just >>> a >>> >> phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is >truly >>> awesome. >>> > >>> > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when >>> >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would >>> >they? >> >> I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I >>know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make >>it to the web, you never know. Yours, >> Jon >> >>ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ >>-- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London >> jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk >> "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, >> So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." >> (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) >> > From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Wed Jan 28 18:57:53 2004 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:57:53 -0600 Subject: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday In-Reply-To: <001501c3e5f0$07731480$1d1d883e@default> Message-ID: On further listens today, 'Fairy Tales' may actually be better than 'Eye', but I think 'Mother' by Gilli is still superior to both the other two. If you take 'Mother', 'Good Morning' By Daevid Allen, and 'Now is the Happiest Time of your life' also by Daevid, and some of the material from the Allen/Smyth/Williamson album 'Stroking the Tail of the Bird' you pretty much have the core of great recordings Daevid and Gilli did (post trilogy Gong) in Deya during the mid to late 70's. The covers not ugly enough for Nik ;-) Rich -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:00 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday I beg to differ! Fairy Tales is much better - I remember when it came out there was a bit of talk about whether or not the cover was based on Nik. DAVE -----Original Message----- From: Rich To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: 28 January 2004 01:52 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday >EBS sneaked out 'Xitintoday' on CD in 1997 with very little promotion. It >does have an interesting selection of people performing on it. > >One CD featuring Nik that sometimes people forget about is 'Fairy Tales' by >Mother Gong, he's credited as playing Muzma + Oboe. > >Fairy Tales is pretty much what it says it is, 3 Fairy Tales set to Music by >Harry Williamson and Gilli Smyth. > >(Note: If you have money, and have a choice of Mother Gong CDs, buy 'Eye' >instead it's a better album, or even better Gilli Smyths solo LP, 'Mother' >recorded in Deya with Daevid. ;-) > > >Rich > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:15 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >Alan Powell and Andy Anderson are on there too! > >Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Jarrett >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Date: 26 January 2004 23:41 >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: >> >>> 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the >Xitintoday. >>> Dave >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jon Jarrett >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 >>> Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >>> >>> >>> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: >>> > >>> >> Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI >Steve >>> Hillage >>> >> Compilation 'Light in the Sky' >>> >> >>> >> What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b >>> side >>> >> collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is >just >>> a >>> >> phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is >truly >>> awesome. >>> > >>> > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when >>> >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would >>> >they? >> >> I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I >>know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make >>it to the web, you never know. Yours, >> Jon >> >>ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ >>-- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London >> jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk >> "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, >> So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." >> (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) >> > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 29 06:22:30 2004 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:22:30 GMT Subject: what is your top 5 In-Reply-To: Nick Medford's message of Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:13:08 -0500 Message-ID: Nick Medford writes: > (The best bit of techno I've heard from HW was in the mid-section of Hassan > I Sabbah at the Brighton gig in late 2002 A-fuckin-men!! That, and the version of Earth Calling/Seeing It As You Really Are at the same gig totally blew me away. They can't put those on a live album early enough for me. > and I do hope they played it the > same way at Walthamstow the next night, so that it will be on the new CD). Sorry. 'Fraid not. W was a great gig but that was one tiny disappointment. FoFP From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jan 29 11:15:37 2004 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:15:37 -0500 Subject: HW: Was this the guy... In-Reply-To: ; from keith.henderson@PSI.CH on Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:45:48AM +0100 Message-ID: Dunno about the obnoxious guy, but I do know the band in question, Oneida. "Seriously fucking awesome"? That may be overstating it a bit, but they're certainly worth a night out. Jerry(?) at AI has described their music as as "[a] blast of interstellar warp action and acid rawk". On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:45:48AM +0100, Henderson Keith wrote: > that someone was talking about at those Hawkwind concerts, > that was ruining it for everyone? > > http://www.theonion.com/4004/news2.html > > Grakkl (FAA) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It must be said that they would have sounded better if the singer wouldn't throw his fellow band members to the ground and toss the drum kit around during songs. - Patrick Lenneau From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Thu Jan 29 11:49:03 2004 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:49:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Was this the guy... Message-ID: Eric said... >Dunno about the obnoxious guy, Actually, it was *you* talking about the guy at the Limelight in NYC '95 (don't actually remember him myself...it wasn't *me* I hope!) in message #67211. I just checked the archives. But actually, Arin started it (#67209) talking about people in general at concerts being extra obnoxious at times. And she being in Chicago (is she still?) matches up perfectly with the dateline in the Onion article. Must be the same guy. :) >but I do know the band in question, Oneida. "Seriously >fucking awesome"? That may be overstating it a bit, but >they're certainly worth a night out. Jerry(?) at AI has >described their music as as "[a] blast of interstellar >warp action and acid rawk". Yeah, I know them too...but actually I bought one of their CDs completely by accident, 'cause I thought they were the stoner rock band from So.Cal. (that is really called Unida). I thought it was decent enough stuff, so I wasn't terribly disappointed. I haven't heard it in a couple years though, as it's still in Ohio. On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:45:48AM +0100, Henderson Keith wrote: > that someone was talking about at those Hawkwind concerts, > that was ruining it for everyone? > > http://www.theonion.com/4004/news2.html Grakkl (FAA), who thinks that the Onion represents the "truest" form of journalism today, despite the fact that everything in it is completely made up. (But then, what isn't?) ;) From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 29 20:12:37 2004 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:12:37 -0500 Subject: HW: Was this the guy... Message-ID: >Eric said... >>but I do know the band in question, Oneida. "Seriously >>fucking awesome"? That may be overstating it a bit, but >>they're certainly worth a night out. Jerry(?) at AI has >>described their music as as "[a] blast of interstellar >>warp action and acid rawk". Does anyone have any more info on this band? They're playing in London (Camden Underworld) in May, and I'm tempted to go, mainly because The Heads are supporting. I downloaded a couple of Oneida MP3's which are quite good, something along the lines of a garage-psych/Sonic Youth mixture. I also listened to a few sound samples at Amazon, and their "Anthem of the Moon" album sounds pretty interesting, although I was less impressed by some of the other stuff I sampled. As for the Heads- many members of this list would go mad for this band I'm sure. Think Stooges/Hawkwind/early Ash Ra Tempel, heavy psychedelic guitar freakout music, a bit like a more focussed version of Acid Mothers Temple in places, MC5/Pink Fairies rifferama in other places. Their influences are fairly obvious and they won't be winning many awards for originality, but they do make a fine racket. Check 'em out at: http://www.the heads.org.uk Nick From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jan 29 20:22:49 2004 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:22:49 -0500 Subject: HW: Was this the guy... Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:12:37 -0500, Nick Medford wrote: >http://www.the heads.org.uk Dunno how I did that, it should of course say http://www.theheads.org.uk From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 28 16:59:35 2004 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:59:35 -0000 Subject: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday Message-ID: I beg to differ! Fairy Tales is much better - I remember when it came out there was a bit of talk about whether or not the cover was based on Nik. DAVE -----Original Message----- From: Rich To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: 28 January 2004 01:52 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday >EBS sneaked out 'Xitintoday' on CD in 1997 with very little promotion. It >does have an interesting selection of people performing on it. > >One CD featuring Nik that sometimes people forget about is 'Fairy Tales' by >Mother Gong, he's credited as playing Muzma + Oboe. > >Fairy Tales is pretty much what it says it is, 3 Fairy Tales set to Music by >Harry Williamson and Gilli Smyth. > >(Note: If you have money, and have a choice of Mother Gong CDs, buy 'Eye' >instead it's a better album, or even better Gilli Smyths solo LP, 'Mother' >recorded in Deya with Daevid. ;-) > > >Rich > >-----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:15 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >Alan Powell and Andy Anderson are on there too! > >Dave >-----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Date: 26 January 2004 23:41 >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: >> >>> 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the >Xitintoday. >>> Dave >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jon Jarrett >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 >>> Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >>> >>> >>> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: >>> > >>> >> Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI >Steve >>> Hillage >>> >> Compilation 'Light in the Sky' >>> >> >>> >> What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b >>> side >>> >> collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is >just >>> a >>> >> phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is >truly >>> awesome. >>> > >>> > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when >>> >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would >>> >they? >> >> I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I >>know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make >>it to the web, you never know. Yours, >> Jon >> >>ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ >>-- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London >> jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk >> "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, >> So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." >> (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) >> > From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Wed Jan 28 18:57:53 2004 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:57:53 -0600 Subject: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday In-Reply-To: <001501c3e5f0$07731480$1d1d883e@default> Message-ID: On further listens today, 'Fairy Tales' may actually be better than 'Eye', but I think 'Mother' by Gilli is still superior to both the other two. If you take 'Mother', 'Good Morning' By Daevid Allen, and 'Now is the Happiest Time of your life' also by Daevid, and some of the material from the Allen/Smyth/Williamson album 'Stroking the Tail of the Bird' you pretty much have the core of great recordings Daevid and Gilli did (post trilogy Gong) in Deya during the mid to late 70's. The covers not ugly enough for Nik ;-) Rich -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:00 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday I beg to differ! Fairy Tales is much better - I remember when it came out there was a bit of talk about whether or not the cover was based on Nik. DAVE -----Original Message----- From: Rich To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: 28 January 2004 01:52 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday >EBS sneaked out 'Xitintoday' on CD in 1997 with very little promotion. It >does have an interesting selection of people performing on it. > >One CD featuring Nik that sometimes people forget about is 'Fairy Tales' by >Mother Gong, he's credited as playing Muzma + Oboe. > >Fairy Tales is pretty much what it says it is, 3 Fairy Tales set to Music by >Harry Williamson and Gilli Smyth. > >(Note: If you have money, and have a choice of Mother Gong CDs, buy 'Eye' >instead it's a better album, or even better Gilli Smyths solo LP, 'Mother' >recorded in Deya with Daevid. ;-) > > >Rich > >-----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:15 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >Alan Powell and Andy Anderson are on there too! > >Dave >-----Original Message----- From: Jon Jarrett >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Date: 26 January 2004 23:41 >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: >> >>> 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the >Xitintoday. >>> Dave >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jon Jarrett >>> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>> Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 >>> Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >>> >>> >>> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: >>> > >>> >> Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI >Steve >>> Hillage >>> >> Compilation 'Light in the Sky' >>> >> >>> >> What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b >>> side >>> >> collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is >just >>> a >>> >> phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is >truly >>> awesome. >>> > >>> > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when >>> >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would >>> >they? >> >> I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I >>know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make >>it to the web, you never know. Yours, >> Jon >> >>ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ >>-- >> Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London >> jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk >> "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, >> So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." >> (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) >> > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jan 30 17:35:05 2004 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:35:05 -0500 Subject: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday Message-ID: Is 'Mother' available on CD? Thanks Mick > On further listens today, 'Fairy Tales' may actually be better than 'Eye', >but I think 'Mother' by Gilli is still superior to both the other two. > >If you take 'Mother', 'Good Morning' By Daevid Allen, and 'Now is the >Happiest Time of your life' also by Daevid, and some of the material from >the Allen/Smyth/Williamson album 'Stroking the Tail of the Bird' you pretty >much have the core of great recordings Daevid and Gilli did (post trilogy >Gong) in Deya during the mid to late 70's. > >The covers not ugly enough for Nik ;-) > >Rich > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:00 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday > > >I beg to differ! Fairy Tales is much better - I remember when it came out >there was a bit of talk about whether or not the cover was based on Nik. >DAVE >-----Original Message----- >From: Rich >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Date: 28 January 2004 01:52 >Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday > > >EBS sneaked out 'Xitintoday' on CD in 1997 with very little promotion. It >does have an interesting selection of people performing on it. > >One CD featuring Nik that sometimes people forget about is 'Fairy Tales' by >Mother Gong, he's credited as playing Muzma + Oboe. > >Fairy Tales is pretty much what it says it is, 3 Fairy Tales set to Music >by >Harry Williamson and Gilli Smyth. > >(Note: If you have money, and have a choice of Mother Gong CDs, buy 'Eye' >instead it's a better album, or even better Gilli Smyths solo LP, 'Mother' >recorded in Deya with Daevid. ;-) > > >Rich > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:15 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >Alan Powell and Andy Anderson are on there too! > >Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Jarrett >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Date: 26 January 2004 23:41 >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: > > 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the >Xitintoday. > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 > Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > > >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: > > > > Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI >Steve > Hillage > > Compilation 'Light in the Sky' > > > > What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb >b > side > > collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is >just > a > > phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is >truly > awesome. > > > > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when > >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would > >they? > > I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I >know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make >it to the web, you never know. Yours, > Jon > >ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ >-- > Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk > "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, > So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." > (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) > > May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jan 30 17:54:17 2004 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:54:17 -0500 Subject: HW Old Masters Message-ID: Mike Wrote - pauleatonjones writes: > Does anyone > else feel that they appear to have run out of steam, energy and, please > forgive me on this, ideas?? Dead wrong I think. In recent times they've set up the Hawkfests which have been a great opportunity for fans to get together and see some fine bands. They've put on some absolutely stunning gigs. New tracks like Angela Android are developing to rival olf favourites such as LSD, and even when they reuse stuff, such as Where Are They Now? and the combination of Seeing It As You Really Are and Earth Calling, they manage to put real new feeling into it. I'm disapppointed by the news that neither will be on the new album and hope at least to see a live release of them soon. If Hawkwind have run out of steam it's because they went nuclear. FoFP ---------- I agree entirely with what Mike says, but what does concern me a little is that we have to go back quite a few years since we heard any new Dave Brock material live, the last one being I think 'SpaceBrock' before then we have to back to Love in Space which was 1995! The new material we've heard recently - Sun Ray (great track) and Angela Android are by other band members I believe - So no they've not run out of steam, but I think were long overdue a new 'Brock Classic' Hopefully the new album will put this right! Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Jan 30 21:29:55 2004 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 02:29:55 +0000 Subject: Hawks on the Beeb! Message-ID: Hi ya, Twas writing some C code not listening to Human Race on BBC 3 tv about 1:44am when wot should I hear but abot 20 seconds of Blue Dreamer (I tink it was anyway) Wot a treat? Chris From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jan 31 09:12:52 2004 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 14:12:52 -0000 Subject: HW: Lemmy on the wireless Message-ID: An interview with Lemmy is included in a documentary about Sid Vicious tonight on BBC Radio 2 at 9pm. He's also pictured with Sid and Nancy in the Guardian Guide today. Nick From chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jan 31 13:17:08 2004 From: chrizdove at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Chris Dove) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:17:08 -0500 Subject: what is your top 5 THE RESULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: Well here goes I have looked at all the results, added them all up etc, some people voted twice, some voted for more than 5 so I have just added them all up and here goes.......... ..... an expectant hush descends around the world as your host for the results takes to the podium which is shaped as a Silver Hawk ........... The results were good in all 33 different albums were voted for: 16 syudio albums (including PXR5), 14 Live albums (including In Your Area) 2 compilations (including Dawn of Hawkwind) and 1 bootleg!! But............before we get to the main event the worst album goes to .... ........................................................................... Bring Me the Head of Yuri Gagarin, followed by Zones, Out and Intake then Chrurch of Hawkwind (although someone voted for this but said they like it , then IITBOTFTBD (listen again a great album!) then Xenon Codex, Sonic attack and Text of Festival, then a host of albums with one vote.......but you are all keen to kno the winner of the main event... We have a Tie!!!!! with 16 votes each...........ladies, gentlemen, fellow Hawkfans the joint winners are............................................................... 1ST SPACE RITUAL QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM......16 VOTES 2ND WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME .....10 VOTES 3RD HAWKLORDS/25 YEARS ON LIVE CHRONICLES ..................8 VOTES 4TH ELECTRIC TEPEE LEVITATION .......................7 VOTES 5TH ASTOUNDING SOUNDS, AMAZING MUSIC X IN SEARCH OF SPACE .............6 VOTES 6TH ALIEN 4 HAWKWIND IITBOTFTBD PXR5 .............................4 VOTES 7TH NOTTINGHAM 90, CANTERBURY FAYRE, LIVE 79, 1999 PARTY, THE BUSINESS TRIP, LOVE IN SPACE, PALACE SPRINGS, HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL, YULE RITUAL, DOREMI FASOL LATIDO ......................3 VOTES 8TH CALIFORNIA BRAINSTORM CHURCH OF HAWKWIND SPACED OUT IN LONDON .....................2 VOTES 9TH SPACE BANDITS, DISTANT HORIZONS, IN YOUR AREA, KINETIC PLAYGROUND, TEXT OF FESTIVAL, TALES FROM THE ATOMHENGE, DAWN OF HAWKWIND ..........................1 VOTE there you go digest at your leisure, I would leave you with one point not only is your favourite album not available on CD, neither is your 2nd favourite, or your 3rd, 4th or one of your 6th!!! Someone please tell Dave that us fans NEED these albums released as soon!!! From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Jan 31 13:24:49 2004 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (bernhard.pospiech) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:24:49 +0100 Subject: what is your top 5 THE RESULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for this good work Chris Bernhard -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Chris Dove Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:17 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: what is your top 5 THE RESULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well here goes I have looked at all the results, added them all up etc, some people voted twice, some voted for more than 5 so I have just added them all up and here goes.......... ..... an expectant hush descends around the world as your host for the results takes to the podium which is shaped as a Silver Hawk ........... The results were good in all 33 different albums were voted for: 16 syudio albums (including PXR5), 14 Live albums (including In Your Area) 2 compilations (including Dawn of Hawkwind) and 1 bootleg!! But............before we get to the main event the worst album goes to .... ........................................................................ ... Bring Me the Head of Yuri Gagarin, followed by Zones, Out and Intake then Chrurch of Hawkwind (although someone voted for this but said they like it , then IITBOTFTBD (listen again a great album!) then Xenon Codex, Sonic attack and Text of Festival, then a host of albums with one vote.......but you are all keen to kno the winner of the main event... We have a Tie!!!!! with 16 votes each...........ladies, gentlemen, fellow Hawkfans the joint winners are............................................................... 1ST SPACE RITUAL QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM......16 VOTES 2ND WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME .....10 VOTES 3RD HAWKLORDS/25 YEARS ON LIVE CHRONICLES ..................8 VOTES 4TH ELECTRIC TEPEE LEVITATION .......................7 VOTES 5TH ASTOUNDING SOUNDS, AMAZING MUSIC X IN SEARCH OF SPACE .............6 VOTES 6TH ALIEN 4 HAWKWIND IITBOTFTBD PXR5 .............................4 VOTES 7TH NOTTINGHAM 90, CANTERBURY FAYRE, LIVE 79, 1999 PARTY, THE BUSINESS TRIP, LOVE IN SPACE, PALACE SPRINGS, HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL, YULE RITUAL, DOREMI FASOL LATIDO ......................3 VOTES 8TH CALIFORNIA BRAINSTORM CHURCH OF HAWKWIND SPACED OUT IN LONDON .....................2 VOTES 9TH SPACE BANDITS, DISTANT HORIZONS, IN YOUR AREA, KINETIC PLAYGROUND, TEXT OF FESTIVAL, TALES FROM THE ATOMHENGE, DAWN OF HAWKWIND ..........................1 VOTE there you go digest at your leisure, I would leave you with one point not only is your favourite album not available on CD, neither is your 2nd favourite, or your 3rd, 4th or one of your 6th!!! Someone please tell Dave that us fans NEED these albums released as soon!!! From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jan 31 13:47:30 2004 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:47:30 -0500 Subject: HW Old Masters Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:54:17 -0500, Mick Crook wrote: >we have to go back quite a few years since we heard any new Dave Brock >material live, the last one being I think 'SpaceBrock' before then we have >to back to Love in Space which was 1995! Not quite true- HW have played "Clouded Vision" ('97) live for example- although I guess 7 years rather than 9 years doesn't really alter your basic point! Nick From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sat Jan 31 13:58:43 2004 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:58:43 -0600 Subject: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday In-Reply-To: <20040130223440.EZVF21146.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual> Message-ID: Yes I think Mother is Still available on the french 'Spalax' Label. My copy is a digipack. Rich -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Mick Crook Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:35 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday Is 'Mother' available on CD? Thanks Mick > On further listens today, 'Fairy Tales' may actually be better than 'Eye', >but I think 'Mother' by Gilli is still superior to both the other two. > >If you take 'Mother', 'Good Morning' By Daevid Allen, and 'Now is the >Happiest Time of your life' also by Daevid, and some of the material from >the Allen/Smyth/Williamson album 'Stroking the Tail of the Bird' you pretty >much have the core of great recordings Daevid and Gilli did (post trilogy >Gong) in Deya during the mid to late 70's. > >The covers not ugly enough for Nik ;-) > >Rich > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:00 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday > > >I beg to differ! Fairy Tales is much better - I remember when it came out >there was a bit of talk about whether or not the cover was based on Nik. >DAVE >-----Original Message----- >From: Rich >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Date: 28 January 2004 01:52 >Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky'/Mothergong/Xitintoday > > >EBS sneaked out 'Xitintoday' on CD in 1997 with very little promotion. It >does have an interesting selection of people performing on it. > >One CD featuring Nik that sometimes people forget about is 'Fairy Tales' by >Mother Gong, he's credited as playing Muzma + Oboe. > >Fairy Tales is pretty much what it says it is, 3 Fairy Tales set to Music >by >Harry Williamson and Gilli Smyth. > >(Note: If you have money, and have a choice of Mother Gong CDs, buy 'Eye' >instead it's a better album, or even better Gilli Smyths solo LP, 'Mother' >recorded in Deya with Daevid. ;-) > > >Rich > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:15 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >Alan Powell and Andy Anderson are on there too! > >Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: Jon Jarrett >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Date: 26 January 2004 23:41 >Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > >On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, dave hall wrote: > > 1978. Around about the time that Hillage and Blake were on the >Xitintoday. > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Date: 15 November 2003 17:19 > Subject: Re: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' > > > >On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Rich Warren wrote: > > > > Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI >Steve > Hillage > > Compilation 'Light in the Sky' > > > > What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb >b > side > > collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is >just > a > > phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is >truly > awesome. > > > > I don't suppose any suitably pot-headed people would know when > >that's from exactly so I can stick it in the colaborations file, would > >they? > > I hadn't noticed Blake on _Xitintoday_'s credits. Shows how much I >know... Thanks for that. Maybe some day this version of the file will make >it to the web, you never know. Yours, > Jon > >ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Interstellar Chaos_ >-- > Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk > "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, > So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." > (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) > > May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From GutterCat at AOL.COM Sat Jan 31 14:01:27 2004 From: GutterCat at AOL.COM (GutterCat at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 14:01:27 EST Subject: Harvey Bainbridge - Interstellar Chaos... Message-ID: Just a reminder, ends tomorrow... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2591510207& category=43652&rd=1 Apologies for the intrusion, Steve. Sheep Are Deep. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Jan 31 19:00:16 2004 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 00:00:16 -0000 Subject: Pyramids of SNAFU Message-ID: Hi guys, Mr Talky-boll0cks here again. Don't know how many of you know of The Pyramids Of SNAFU, but frankly, if you like space/drone/wwhhssshhhhwwwwooo-eeeessshhhhh rock, you'll like the Pyramids. Starfarer's just put a review of their four track taster on his site (http://www.starfarer.net/pyramids1.html) - so it's not just me. You can also buy it from CD Services (although the band make more cash if you buy it direct from them). (Anyone who's ever heard ANOMIE will have a pretty good idea what it sounds like) Anyway, they don't have a website of their own yet (although it's coming), but I did offer to do a guestbook for them the other day (and then built it in a couple of bored hours at work that afternoon). When we came up with the idea of the look and feel, I laughed until tears ran down my legs... What I'm really after is for you all to have a look at (and sign) the beta of the guestbook and let me know what you think. It's currently living at: http://www.hyperactive-stage.co.uk/pyramids/guestbook.asp - please let me know, either via the list or direct what you think of it... Oh, and buy the Pyramids' taster CD. As Starfarer (paraphrased) says, six quid for twnty-five minutes of trip-out space rock can't be bad. It's ace. Cheers, Rich.