From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 1 06:36:25 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael B) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:06:25 +0930 Subject: Re. More on new Doctor who Message-ID: you are welcome ----------------------------------- Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) http://www.alien-dream.com ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:00 AM Subject: Re: Re. More on new Doctor who > Oh, highly amusing Michael. Have you been drinking? Maybe an Australian > Doctor? A flying doctor maybe. I know, how about Kylie ****ing Minogue. > > Thinking about it, who really gives a **** about Doctor Who? Why not let a > rotting corpse lie? (Mind you, I dug one of those up last weekend in our > vegetable patch) > > Cheers, > > R. > > > > > hmmm - how about a conjoined twin incestuous Dr who - that would cover the > > gay aspect and show that conjoined twins can be cool as well :) > > > > ......Dont let the door slap me on the ass as I go out? > > > > ----------------------------------- > > Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) > > http://www.alien-dream.com > > ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** > > (Alien Dream) > > > > > > > > I know - it's just that a lot of discussions I've seen on this topic are > > > saying "We should have a black Doctor", or "We should have a gay > Doctor". > > > > > > Sorry if I came across as making Doctor Who a race issue - I didn't > intend > > > that. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > Who mentioned wanting a black Dr Who, it matters not a jot, Don > > > > Warrington is just a bloody good actor thats all > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm with Chris on pretty well all the below. A couple of points to > > > > > add - if > > > > > they want a black doctor, how about Rudolph Walker? The coolest, > > most > > > > > laid > > > > > back Trinidadian on television - *ever*. He'd make an *ace* > Doctor! > > > > > > > > > > Also, I may be the only person to think that Paul McGann made a > great > > > > > Doctor - that slightly mad look that Tom Baker and the rest of the > > > great > > > > > Doctors had down pat! (Same reason that people keep mentioning > > Richard > > > E > > > > > Grant, although I think he's too obvious.) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, Helen sent me this today: > > > > > > ******************************** > > > > > > These are the current names re: above ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Nighy > > > > > > Jonathan Pryce > > > > > > Richard E Grant > > > > > > Dame Maggie Smith > > > > > > Lenny Henry > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > I rather like the idea of Dame Maggie myself, though I think any > of > > > the > > > > > > first four might work. I think Lenny would be a disaster, > however, > > > Don > > > > > > Warrington (Rising Damp & Manchild) would, I think , make a > > perfectly > > > > > > splendid Doctor!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 1 06:56:47 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael B) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 20:26:47 +0930 Subject: Re. More on new Doctor who Message-ID: heres another idea. How about a Dr Who who is a big black man with a small penis complex - thus his eternal quest to save the universe, or at least earth, every week from various evil plots and on his days of - locate a REAL penis enlargement technique that works - . and his side kick could be a hyperchondriackkk, paranoid, schizo sufferer with slight narcissistic tendencies? I'd watch that... ----------------------------------- Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) http://www.alien-dream.com ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:00 AM Subject: Re: Re. More on new Doctor who > Oh, highly amusing Michael. Have you been drinking? Maybe an Australian > Doctor? A flying doctor maybe. I know, how about Kylie ****ing Minogue. > > Thinking about it, who really gives a **** about Doctor Who? Why not let a > rotting corpse lie? (Mind you, I dug one of those up last weekend in our > vegetable patch) > > Cheers, > > R. > > > > > hmmm - how about a conjoined twin incestuous Dr who - that would cover the > > gay aspect and show that conjoined twins can be cool as well :) > > > > ......Dont let the door slap me on the ass as I go out? > > > > ----------------------------------- > > Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) > > http://www.alien-dream.com > > ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** > > (Alien Dream) > > > > > > > > I know - it's just that a lot of discussions I've seen on this topic are > > > saying "We should have a black Doctor", or "We should have a gay > Doctor". > > > > > > Sorry if I came across as making Doctor Who a race issue - I didn't > intend > > > that. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > Who mentioned wanting a black Dr Who, it matters not a jot, Don > > > > Warrington is just a bloody good actor thats all > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm with Chris on pretty well all the below. A couple of points to > > > > > add - if > > > > > they want a black doctor, how about Rudolph Walker? The coolest, > > most > > > > > laid > > > > > back Trinidadian on television - *ever*. He'd make an *ace* > Doctor! > > > > > > > > > > Also, I may be the only person to think that Paul McGann made a > great > > > > > Doctor - that slightly mad look that Tom Baker and the rest of the > > > great > > > > > Doctors had down pat! (Same reason that people keep mentioning > > Richard > > > E > > > > > Grant, although I think he's too obvious.) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, Helen sent me this today: > > > > > > ******************************** > > > > > > These are the current names re: above ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Nighy > > > > > > Jonathan Pryce > > > > > > Richard E Grant > > > > > > Dame Maggie Smith > > > > > > Lenny Henry > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > I rather like the idea of Dame Maggie myself, though I think any > of > > > the > > > > > > first four might work. I think Lenny would be a disaster, > however, > > > Don > > > > > > Warrington (Rising Damp & Manchild) would, I think , make a > > perfectly > > > > > > splendid Doctor!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Oct 1 07:05:16 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 19:05:16 +0800 Subject: Re. More on new Doctor who In-Reply-To: <002801c3880a$b66308e0$7bd0223f@DrBlackman> Message-ID: How about a Doctor with a fear of enclosed places. Wouldn't he have fun in the Tardis!!! William -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Michael B Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 6:57 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Re. More on new Doctor who heres another idea. How about a Dr Who who is a big black man with a small penis complex - thus his eternal quest to save the universe, or at least earth, every week from various evil plots and on his days of - locate a REAL penis enlargement technique that works - . and his side kick could be a hyperchondriackkk, paranoid, schizo sufferer with slight narcissistic tendencies? I'd watch that... ----------------------------------- Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) http://www.alien-dream.com ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:00 AM Subject: Re: Re. More on new Doctor who > Oh, highly amusing Michael. Have you been drinking? Maybe an Australian > Doctor? A flying doctor maybe. I know, how about Kylie ****ing Minogue. > > Thinking about it, who really gives a **** about Doctor Who? Why not let a > rotting corpse lie? (Mind you, I dug one of those up last weekend in our > vegetable patch) > > Cheers, > > R. > > > > > hmmm - how about a conjoined twin incestuous Dr who - that would cover the > > gay aspect and show that conjoined twins can be cool as well :) > > > > ......Dont let the door slap me on the ass as I go out? > > > > ----------------------------------- > > Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) > > http://www.alien-dream.com > > ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** > > (Alien Dream) > > > > > > > > I know - it's just that a lot of discussions I've seen on this topic are > > > saying "We should have a black Doctor", or "We should have a gay > Doctor". > > > > > > Sorry if I came across as making Doctor Who a race issue - I didn't > intend > > > that. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > Who mentioned wanting a black Dr Who, it matters not a jot, Don > > > > Warrington is just a bloody good actor thats all > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm with Chris on pretty well all the below. A couple of points to > > > > > add - if > > > > > they want a black doctor, how about Rudolph Walker? The coolest, > > most > > > > > laid > > > > > back Trinidadian on television - *ever*. He'd make an *ace* > Doctor! > > > > > > > > > > Also, I may be the only person to think that Paul McGann made a > great > > > > > Doctor - that slightly mad look that Tom Baker and the rest of the > > > great > > > > > Doctors had down pat! (Same reason that people keep mentioning > > Richard > > > E > > > > > Grant, although I think he's too obvious.) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, Helen sent me this today: > > > > > > ******************************** > > > > > > These are the current names re: above ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Nighy > > > > > > Jonathan Pryce > > > > > > Richard E Grant > > > > > > Dame Maggie Smith > > > > > > Lenny Henry > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > I rather like the idea of Dame Maggie myself, though I think any > of > > > the > > > > > > first four might work. I think Lenny would be a disaster, > however, > > > Don > > > > > > Warrington (Rising Damp & Manchild) would, I think , make a > > perfectly > > > > > > splendid Doctor!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Wed Oct 1 08:46:29 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:46:29 +0200 Subject: OFF: Some US dates of interest? Message-ID: Hey Folks... A date first off for Doug P. and anyone else in the Bay Area who may be lurking here. And then a tour that might interest some folks, by an old resurrected band from Sweden. ------------------------------------------------------------ University Of Errors play the music of the original Soft Machine (and other stuff) Saturday Oct 4 Starry Plough Berkeley, CA Set time 11:00pm support: The Spindles at 9:30 ------------------------------------------------------------ Trad, Gras, och Stenar (Sverige) - US tour '03 http://www.tgs.nu Oct. 2 Chicago, Empty Bottle - No Neck Blues Band (NNCK) Oct. 3 Detroit, Majestic/Magic Stick - NNCK Oct. 5 Minneapolis, Festival of Music - Jackie-O Motherfucker, Jim O'Rourke, NNCK, Thurston Moore and others Oct. 7 New York, Tonic - together with Jim O'Rourke and NNCK Oct. 8 New York, WFNU and WNYU radio stations, Other Music record shop Oct. 9 New York, Hinthouse Oct. 10 Philadelpia, Khyber Pass - Bardo Pond Oct. 11 New York, Tonic - together with Thurston Moore Oct. 12 Providence /Rhode Island, AS220 - Cul de Sac Oct. 13 Madison /Connecticut, The Saturnalia 4 Festival - Cul de Sac Oct. 15 San Francisco, Bottom of the Hill - Subarachnoid Space, Prismatics Oct. 16 San Francisco, KFJC radio station Oct. 17 Seattle, the Crocodile Cafe - Kinski , Sushirobo Oct. 18 Portland, Lola's Room - Kinski Grakkl (FAA) From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Oct 1 12:23:05 2003 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:23:05 -0400 Subject: A fan - Jello Biafra Message-ID: I just found out Jello Biafra is playing in London tomorrow night and doing a European tour. I also did a little search on Google for Jello Biafra/Hawkwind connections and I found this on Disinformation's website but the link from their page is now dead: http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id198/pg1/ 'Jello Biafra On Robert Calvert Jello Biafra offers his thoughts on Hawkwind member Robert Calvert's campaign to expose corporate corruption and fight censorship. Valuable for exploring influences on Biafra's life.' Alastair. On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:55:06 +0200, Bart Brugmans wrote: >Thats cool! > >> Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party >> presidential candidate) is a big hawkwind fan. > >And of course there are a lot Hawkwind fans who are also Dead >Kennedys fans :) > >Bart >(Who unfortunately missed Jello Biafra performing in Gothenburg) From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Wed Oct 1 12:44:20 2003 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Reptoid) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:44:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik Turner and Spaceseed Message-ID: Just a heads ups for anyone that hasn't heard, Nik Turner will be playing 3 area shows backed by Atlanta SpaceRock band Spaceseed. Thurs Oct 2nd Nik Turner and Spaceseed with special guests Cotton (Casino of Acid Mothers Temple) & Billawtm at the Warehouse Next Door 1021 7th St. NW Washington DC 202-783-3933 www.warehousetheater.com doors 9 pm $10 Fri Oct 3rd Nik Turner and Spaceseed with special guests Scattered Planets at the North Star Bar 2639 Poplar St. Philadelphia, PA 19130 215-684-0808 www.northstarbar.com doors 10 pm $12 Sat Oct 4th Nik Turner and Spaceseed with special guests Cotton (Casino of Acid Mothers Temple) & Billawtm at the MOJO 4825 Bel Air Rd Baltimore, MD 410-325-7427 www.mojobalto.com With lightshow at all 3 venues. DO NOT PANIC From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Oct 1 13:28:52 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:28:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik Turner and Spaceseed In-Reply-To: ; from prabbit@GOWEBWAY.COM on Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0400, Reptoid wrote: > With lightshow at all 3 venues. By whom; does anyone know? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Oct 1 13:30:18 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:30:18 -0400 Subject: Re. More on new Doctor who In-Reply-To: <000001c3880b$eab6eb60$53da3bcb@xl5>; from xl5@IINET.NET.AU on Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:05:16PM +0800 Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:05:16PM +0800, William Duffy wrote: > How about a Doctor with a fear of enclosed places. Wouldn't he have fun > in the Tardis!!! Nah. He'd have trouble *entering* it, but once inside he'd be fine :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM Wed Oct 1 13:54:34 2003 From: tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:54:34 -0500 Subject: Nik Turner and Spaceseed Message-ID: Hello, fellow Hawkpeople. Back after a hiatus. Thanks for that info, Reptoid! I will be in Philadelphia that evening (OCt. 3rd), coincidentally. Will definitely check out the show. Anyone else going? Rgds, Tom Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reptoid" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: HW: Nik Turner and Spaceseed > Just a heads ups for anyone that hasn't heard, Nik Turner will be playing > 3 area shows backed by Atlanta > SpaceRock band Spaceseed. > > Thurs Oct 2nd Nik Turner and Spaceseed with special guests Cotton > (Casino of Acid Mothers Temple) & Billawtm at the > Warehouse Next Door > 1021 7th St. NW > Washington DC > 202-783-3933 > www.warehousetheater.com > doors 9 pm > $10 > > Fri Oct 3rd Nik Turner and Spaceseed with special guests Scattered > Planets at the > North Star Bar > 2639 Poplar St. > Philadelphia, PA > 19130 > 215-684-0808 > www.northstarbar.com > doors 10 pm > $12 > > Sat Oct 4th Nik Turner and Spaceseed with special guests Cotton > (Casino of Acid Mothers Temple) & Billawtm at the > MOJO > 4825 Bel Air Rd > Baltimore, MD > 410-325-7427 > www.mojobalto.com > > With lightshow at all 3 venues. > DO NOT PANIC > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Oct 1 14:10:57 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:10:57 -0400 Subject: A fan - Jello Biafra Message-ID: I couldn't open the link either. What a shame. A bet it was interesting. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: Re: A fan - Jello Biafra > I just found out Jello Biafra is playing in London tomorrow night and doing > a European tour. > > I also did a little search on Google for Jello Biafra/Hawkwind connections > and I found this on Disinformation's website but the link from their page > is now dead: > > http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id198/pg1/ > > 'Jello Biafra On Robert Calvert > Jello Biafra offers his thoughts on Hawkwind member Robert Calvert's > campaign to expose corporate corruption and fight censorship. Valuable for > exploring influences on Biafra's life.' > > Alastair. > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:55:06 +0200, Bart Brugmans wrote: > > >Thats cool! > > > >> Jello Biafra (ex Dead Kennedys, green party > >> presidential candidate) is a big hawkwind fan. > > > >And of course there are a lot Hawkwind fans who are also Dead > >Kennedys fans :) > > > >Bart > >(Who unfortunately missed Jello Biafra performing in Gothenburg) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Oct 1 14:17:07 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:17:07 -0400 Subject: P/Age news? In-Reply-To: <003b01c38847$5cb95050$2c64a944@amyandstephe>; from lindas1@ADELPHIA.NET on Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:10:57PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:10:57PM -0400, Stephe Lindas wrote: > I couldn't open the link either. What a shame. A bet it was interesting. It points to Knut Gerwers's defunct site, "Spirit of the P/Age". Wasn't there a plan afoot to revive that? Any news? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Wed Oct 1 14:24:05 2003 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Reptoid) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:24:05 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik Turner and Spaceseed Message-ID: Not 100% sure but I think the person's name is Craig Smith? He does lights for Chrome/Helios Creed as well as others. I'll be playing guitar with Cotton & Billawtm and bass with Nik & Spaceseed. John Stanton From youless at COX.NET Wed Oct 1 15:30:02 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:30:02 -0400 Subject: A fan - Jello Biafra Message-ID: Jello Biafra on Robert Calvert can be found here: http://web.archive.org/web/20010917211511/http://www.thing.de/projekte/futur e/biafon.htm Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:23:05 -0400, Alastair wrote: >I just found out Jello Biafra is playing in London tomorrow night and doing >a European tour. > >I also did a little search on Google for Jello Biafra/Hawkwind connections >and I found this on Disinformation's website but the link from their page >is now dead: > >http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id198/pg1/ > >'Jello Biafra On Robert Calvert >Jello Biafra offers his thoughts on Hawkwind member Robert Calvert's >campaign to expose corporate corruption and fight censorship. Valuable for >exploring influences on Biafra's life.' > >Alastair. From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Oct 2 05:52:24 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:52:24 -0400 Subject: P/Age news? Message-ID: >It points to Knut Gerwers's defunct site, "Spirit of the P/Age". >Wasn't there a plan afoot to revive that? Any news? I haven't heard from Knut in a long time. He had told me that he didn't want to bring the page back until he could finish updating it, but the demands on his time has been his involvement in theater. So my offer to house the site still stands but the ball is in Knut's court to get it to me. He did seem excited about it. Jerry From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Oct 2 12:00:12 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (CloneArt) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:00:12 -0400 Subject: HW: Artwork Quirk Message-ID: Apropos of nothing, go to Amazon.com and do a search for "Novalis Sommerabend" and then compare with "Hawkwind Family Tree". Stephan From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Oct 2 15:58:40 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:58:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Artwork Quirk In-Reply-To: ; from stemfors@PIPELINE.COM on Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:00:12PM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:00:12PM -0400, CloneArt wrote: > Apropos of nothing, go to Amazon.com and do a search for "Novalis > Sommerabend" and then compare with "Hawkwind Family Tree". Hmmm. I'd never paid much attention to that cover before. Now that I look closely, it looks kind of art-nouveau'ish (sez this mostly illarterate person; am I completely out to lunch about that classification?). Is it in fact an old 19th-century painting? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM Thu Oct 2 16:13:57 2003 From: tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM (Tom Clark) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:13:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Artwork Quirk Message-ID: Testing..... From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Oct 2 16:37:43 2003 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 16:37:43 EDT Subject: Nik Turner and Spaceseed Message-ID: Anyone goin to the Baltimore show? Anyone bringing gear?. Let me know..off list. B From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Oct 2 20:36:23 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:36:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magic Carpathians US Tour? Message-ID: I just picked up the weekly about town paper Columbus (Ohio) Alive and see an ad for some band tomorrow night, including an addendum mentioning opening "Polish duo Magic Carpathians". Does anyone know that they're touring right now? I thought I had seen somewhere that they'd cancelled the US tour. I should also mention, for Keith's benefit (or laughs), that it's Andyman's Treehouse they're scheduled at. VEEEERY small backwater dive (with a REAL tree in it!!). Jerry From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Oct 3 14:54:30 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:54:30 -0400 Subject: HW: XMAS PARTY GIG DATE Message-ID: ++ STAR WARRIORS + ++ + Our Xmas Party Gig Date Is Now Confirmed: TICKET SALES Phone: Ticketweb +44 (0)8700 600 100 (24 hour tele-sales line) Payment by Cash, cheque and credit card Venue Box Office Information: 020 7434 9592 Opening hours Mon - Sat 10:00am til 6:00pm. Payment by cash cheque and credit card. Online: Ticketweb.co.uk Full Details on Mission Control - www.hawkwind.com + + ++ + +MESSAGE ENDS + + + + ++ + From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Oct 3 17:31:02 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:31:02 +0100 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) In-Reply-To: <000901c34c98$307108c0$0d736751@IRONDREAM> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Colm McWilliams wrote: > very interesting..... > > how comes there has been no news from the hawkwind camp about this? > > i wonder if they will be remasted with additional tracks and artwork? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cosmicdolphin" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:57 AM > Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > > > Interesting Links on Amazon here: > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCG/ref=sr_aps_music_1_2/202 > > -3128797-2794223 > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCF/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_2/202-3 > > 128797-2794223 > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCH/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_1/202-3 > > 128797-2794223 > > > > Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. Looks like another case of the information getting out before the project was ready to roll I guess, like enough others that we've seen now. I'd guess the rereleases couldn't be cleared with EMI to come out on Voiceprint (though why Rob Ayling should think they were is another question; I suppose someone must have misinformed him) but the Oxford 1978 one perplexes me. This must be the gig from which the `Motorway City' on _Family Tree_ comes, I'm assuming, so I can't see how the copyright would be unavailable as it's already been used by Voiceprint. I can't see how anyone but Dave could can that one. And I can't see why he would. Confused. Yours, Jon (reading but rarely writing) ObCD: Maruta Kommand - _Holocaust Rites_ -- "If you are rich, throw away your documents. If you are poor, do so also." (Egyptian proverb) Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Oct 3 19:29:31 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:29:31 -0400 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) In-Reply-To: <003501c34e41$84c5c460$883dfea9@oemcomputer>; from colin@CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 11:03:00PM +0100 Message-ID: This could be far less interesting than it seems (both by Colin's definition of the word, and by ours :-). Amazon also sells, or at least brokers sales of, used CDs; the "please check back" could just mean, "in case a used one becomes available". On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 11:03:00PM +0100, Colin J Allen wrote: > Hi, > > Interesting indeed; remember that any official news will be announced by us > and will appear on Mission Control. Sometimes even apparently authoritative > sources may not be correct:(. > > Colin > > Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any > legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. > Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of > valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your > own risk. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cosmicdolphin" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:57 AM > Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > > > > Interesting Links on Amazon here: > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCG/ref=sr_aps_music_1_2/202 > > -3128797-2794223 > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCF/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_2/202-3 > > 128797-2794223 > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCH/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_1/202-3 > > 128797-2794223 > > > > Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. > > > > > > Rich > > -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Fri Oct 3 21:31:38 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:31:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock, Electronic, Alchemical, and Kozmik Ken Experience shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (October 3, 2003): We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #88), The Electronic Cottage (show #2), Alchemical Radio (show #47) and The Kozmik Ken Experience (October 2003). You can go directly to the Radio Shows page at http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html New in stock at the Aural Innovations mail order catalog: MAN IN SPACE - "For Medicinal Use Only" The sophomore release from Belgian spacers Man In Space is a killer heavy Space Rock blitz. Man In Space draw on various influences including prog rock, Hawkwind, metal, King Crimson, and even shades of Neu-ish electronica... but it's pure Space Rock. For more information visit our catalog at: http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html Aural Innovations Radio (show #88) Mr Quimby's Beard - "Marijuana Nightmare" (Live in Sunderland (Manor Quay) on 8/23/2003, unreleased, played with permission) Liquid Visions - "Endless Plasmatic Childhood Overdose" (from Endless Plasmatic Childhood Overdose) UFO Jim - "Mexico UFOs" (from Dancing With Aliens) In The Labyrinth - "Out Of This Maze" (from Dryad) Afresco Mantis - Excerpts from "Harris Tweed" (Live in Sunderland (Manor Quay) on 8/23/2003, unreleased, played with permission) David Unlimbo - "Ambana" (from Celestial Mechanics) Beneficial Gene - "Release" (from Cosmic Debris) Liquid Zoo - "Not Waving But Drowning" (from The Return Of The Fevertree) Black Sun - "Dial 42837 Hater" (from Flesh Market) PRP Group - "Cascade" (from Babyland) Korai Orom - track 1 (from Sound & Vision) The Electronic Cottage (show #2): Space electronics, ambient and related KOSIK / Matt Borghi - "Anselmo" (from Tiem Parade) Arnold Mathes - "Supercar" (from Cosmic Memory) Artemiy Artemiev & Phillip B. Klinger - "Endless Voyage" (from A Moment Of Infinity) Mikhail Atom - untitled (from Astroepos) Thought Guild - "Semiotic Sequence" (from [Context]) Alpha Wave Movement - "Binary Code 51" (from The Edge Of Infinity) Alien Planetscapes - "Message From Space" (excerpt) (from Message From Space) Ethereal - "NGC 2300" (from Ten Electronic Music Studies) Hal McGee & Dave Fuglewicz - "Dislocated Chronicles" (from Synergistic Deconstruction) Cyber Zen Sound Engine - "Mu Psych (The Mathematics Of Angels)" (from Ausl?nder) Diatonis - "Aphelion" (from The Convolving Universe) Alchemical Radio (show #47) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends Terri~B and The Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label and features some of the best Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Metal, and adventurous Pop that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions. The Maledictus Sound - Crazy Circus Terry Munday - Divinity Dave Dill - Always There Lope - Trauss Thinking Plyers - Ananda Dream Root Deco - Maybe Someday Frank Gingeleit - Witchcraft Lessons At A Dwarves School Clear Blue Sky - Dark Angels Gargantua Soul - AOA Tess Arkels - Everything The Cosh - They Don't Care 7 That Spells - Radio Luxemburg Orbital The Suicide Of Miss Melancholy - Here Hung Those Lips Space Mirrors - A Trip Through Inner Space The Kozmik Ken Experience (October 2003): Psychedelia and Space Rock Hidria Spacefolk - "Nasha Universo" (from Symbiosis) Soundtrack Of Our Lives - "Infra Riot" (from Behind The Music) Arktis - "High Fly" (from The Arktis Tapes) Space Ritual.Net - "Warp Out" (from Live at Glastonbury and Guilford Festivals) Mike Fab-Gere - "I Am The Walrus" (from Single) Arzachel - "Metem Psychosis" (from Arzachel) When's The Future - "Go East And Feast" (from Now) Porcupine Tree - "Futile" (from Futile) Tractor - "Jester" (from Before, After and During the Dandelion Years) Hidria Spacefolk - "Mantra" (from Symbiosis) The Psychedelic Breakfast - "Always Trippin' Always Stoned" (from In Uncle Sam's Basement Emporium) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Oct 4 17:47:58 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:47:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: Britain a nation of drinkers - official Message-ID: Cheers! http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-12808490,00.html From mlee at LINNEYDIRECT.COM Mon Oct 6 03:49:31 2003 From: mlee at LINNEYDIRECT.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 08:49:31 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 4 Oct 2003 to 5 Oct 2003 (#2003-118) In-Reply-To: <200310050900.h95903d7001495@ns1.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: Anj may i shay i conker, hic ! > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:47:58 -0400 > From: Karen Kusic > Subject: OFF: Britain a nation of drinkers - official > > Cheers! > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 6 07:35:57 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:35:57 +0100 Subject: HW: XMAS PARTY GIG DATE In-Reply-To: Rik Rx's message of Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:54:30 -0400 Message-ID: Rik Rx writes: > ++ STAR WARRIORS + ++ + > > Our Xmas Party Gig Date Is Now Confirmed: That's good, so if it's not Top Secret, for when is it confirmed and where? FoFP From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Oct 6 07:50:11 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:50:11 +0000 Subject: HW: XMAS PARTY GIG DATE Message-ID: Sunday 21st Dec Astroria, but I had to go onto the ticketweb page to find it. Eddie. >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: XMAS PARTY GIG DATE >Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:35:57 +0100 > >Rik Rx writes: > > > ++ STAR WARRIORS + ++ + > > > > Our Xmas Party Gig Date Is Now Confirmed: > >That's good, so if it's not Top Secret, for when is it confirmed and where? > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK Mon Oct 6 09:50:30 2003 From: chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK (Chaos Illumination) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:50:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest photos and new Spaechead Website Message-ID: Hi All, Just to let everyone know - the new Spacehead website address is www.spacehead-lab23.co.uk. there are 2 forthcoming gigs. A Halloween special on the 31st October at the George in Buxton and also on in Felixstowe. Dec12th Fri Lix's Bar, 7 Sea Road, Felixstowe. IP11 2AU 01394 273414 ?2 under 18s ?3 otherwise Also - we have put up some Hawkfest Photos on the Chaos Illumination site. You can find them here - www.chaosillumination.co.uk A big hi to everyone we know and no doubt we'll see some of you at the Hawkwind gig in Exeter on 25th October. Regards, Chaos Illumination From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Oct 6 11:38:33 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael B) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 01:08:33 +0930 Subject: new Spaechead Website OFF ORRF bloody well RIGHT ooorrrfff Message-ID: head in space - I dream of thee la la la ----------------------------------- Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) http://www.alien-dream.com ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chaos Illumination" To: Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: HW: Hawkfest photos and new Spaechead Website Hi All, Just to let everyone know - the new Spacehead website address is www.spacehead-lab23.co.uk. there are 2 forthcoming gigs. A Halloween special on the 31st October at the George in Buxton and also on in Felixstowe. Dec12th Fri Lix's Bar, 7 Sea Road, Felixstowe. IP11 2AU 01394 273414 ?2 under 18s ?3 otherwise Also - we have put up some Hawkfest Photos on the Chaos Illumination site. You can find them here - www.chaosillumination.co.uk A big hi to everyone we know and no doubt we'll see some of you at the Hawkwind gig in Exeter on 25th October. Regards, Chaos Illumination From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Oct 6 13:22:14 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:22:14 -0400 Subject: HW: XMAS PARTY GIG DATE Message-ID: ahhhhh ......so ya'all missed the link to Mission Control eh? The latest dates & info is ALWAYS there ! :-} for those others that also missed it the direct URL is: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/to_.htm Full details of EXETER on 25th Oct and LONDON ASTORIA on 21st Dec are up including travel, location, ticket outlets etc etc... www.hawkwind.com On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:50:11 +0000, eddie jobson wrote: >Sunday 21st Dec Astroria, but I had to go onto the ticketweb page to find >it. > >Eddie. > > >>From: M Holmes >>Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >>To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >>Subject: Re: HW: XMAS PARTY GIG DATE >>Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:35:57 +0100 >> >>Rik Rx writes: >> >> > ++ STAR WARRIORS + ++ + >> > >> > Our Xmas Party Gig Date Is Now Confirmed: >> >>That's good, so if it's not Top Secret, for when is it confirmed and where? >> >>FoFP > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Oct 6 17:21:08 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 17:21:08 -0400 Subject: brain: deb frost interview! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: check out rockcritics.com for it. a good read! mostly Deborah layin' down words. J From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 7 01:14:32 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:14:32 +0800 Subject: OFF: Decent priced shops in UK for DVDs & CDs?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all Hope you don't mind me posting this here, but maybe some UK people may be able to give me some info. I'm in Australia, & my mum's currently in Scotland on holidays. Does anyone know of any shops (maybe in Glasgow?) that sell DVDs & CDs at a reasonable price? Not just music related ones either. There's a few things I'm after, & most shops here that sell those things, particularly DVDs, tend to put a high variation on the costs. As my mother isn't really up on all that, I'd hate for her to spend too much on an item in one shop, when it might be cheaper round the corner. Bye for now William From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 7 07:04:33 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:04:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: Decent priced shops in UK for DVDs & CDs?? In-Reply-To: William Duffy's message of Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:14:32 +0800 Message-ID: William Duffy writes: > Hi all > > Hope you don't mind me posting this here, but maybe some UK people may > be able to give me some info. > > I'm in Australia, & my mum's currently in Scotland on holidays. Does > anyone know of any shops (maybe in Glasgow?) that sell DVDs & CDs at a > reasonable price? Not just music related ones either. Fopp seem to have a good reputation around here. Dunno if they have sjops in Glasgow but there's one on Cockburn (that's pronounced Coe-burn rather than as some sort of venereal disease) Street, which is just of our main street: Princes Street. Cheers FoFP From Alan_Taylor at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Oct 7 13:06:19 2003 From: Alan_Taylor at MADASAFISH.COM (Alan Taylor) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:06:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Decent priced shops in UK for DVDs & CDs?? Message-ID: Last time I looked, there was a Fopp in Glasgow's Renfield Street, quite near where it joins Argyle St. Excellent value. I got the reissued jewel case ISOS and Hall a couple of years ago for ?5 each. I dunno much about other shops. The usual HMV/Virgin/Borders places tend to be pricey. Cheers Alan > William Duffy writes: > > > Hi all > > > > Hope you don't mind me posting this here, but maybe some UK people may > > be able to give me some info. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 7 13:40:37 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:40:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Decent priced shops in UK for DVDs & CDs?? In-Reply-To: <005001c38cf5$546112f0$27ca2f50@user9faztsnrbn> Message-ID: In London, Berwick Street (off Oxford St, roughly opposite HMV on the left if you're facing towards Marble Arch) has a few good shops. Theres Selectadisc which has a very good range of HW and related plus other psych & space rock at good prices. Also, there's Mr CD and CD King (or similar) which are both tiny pile 'em high sell 'em cheap places full of what one imagines is largely remaindered stock but also with new releases as well, difficult to find stuff in these but you can come across some gems from time to time. Reckless Records have a couple of shops selling new and second hand stuff, including vynil. There's also a few dance oriented music shops as well. Oxford Street, of course, has the obligatory HMV & Virgin both having very large stores. Nick From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Oct 7 13:57:38 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:57:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: Decent priced shops in UK for DVDs & CDs?? In-Reply-To: <000201c38cfa$1eb92a70$54e96b51@yourpnqspyopyu>; from nick.lee2@VIRGIN.NET on Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 06:40:37PM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 06:40:37PM +0100, Nick Lee wrote: > In London, Berwick Street (off Oxford St, roughly opposite HMV on the > left if you're facing towards Marble Arch) has a few good shops. There's also the Record and Tape Exchange (well, that's what it used to be called; probably has "CD" in its name somewhere now), up at Notting Hill Gate. Prices can be high, but they tend to have some hard-to-find stuff. (I've only ever seen three vinyl copies of New World's Fair, and two of them were in that store.) There're a zillion XYZ Exchange's all in a row; the interesting one has CDs on the ground floor and vinyl upstairs. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Oct 7 13:57:59 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:57:59 +0100 Subject: Decent priced shops in UK for DVDs & CDs?? Message-ID: Try Fopps in the city centre they sell a lot of older back catalogue stuff by major artists for a fiver a cd! cheers colm > Hi all > > Hope you don't mind me posting this here, but maybe some UK people may > be able to give me some info. > > I'm in Australia, & my mum's currently in Scotland on holidays. Does > anyone know of any shops (maybe in Glasgow?) that sell DVDs & CDs at a > reasonable price? Not just music related ones either. > > There's a few things I'm after, & most shops here that sell those > things, particularly DVDs, tend to put a high variation on the costs. > As my mother isn't really up on all that, I'd hate for her to spend too > much on an item in one shop, when it might be cheaper round the corner. > > Bye for now > William > From tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM Tue Oct 7 14:24:24 2003 From: tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 13:24:24 -0500 Subject: Test Message-ID: Test again.......hmmmm..... From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Tue Oct 7 18:34:39 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:34:39 +0100 Subject: Decent priced shops in UK for DVDs & CDs?? Message-ID: Just in case it's any use- altho' you'd have to have one seriously helping mum - CD Services will have a couple of tables at the big Glasgow Record Fair at the SECC (1 mile from Glasgow Central) on Sat 18th Oct and Sun 19th Oct with a selection of CD's (and some DVD's) of a space-rock (+ a few bits of vinyl), psych,ambient, synth,progressive and kraut/euro-rock bent, and a few other things I'll throw in. Hope to see some of u there that may be around. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 6:14 AM Subject: OFF: Decent priced shops in UK for DVDs & CDs?? > Hi all > > Hope you don't mind me posting this here, but maybe some UK people may > be able to give me some info. > > I'm in Australia, & my mum's currently in Scotland on holidays. Does > anyone know of any shops (maybe in Glasgow?) that sell DVDs & CDs at a > reasonable price? Not just music related ones either. > > There's a few things I'm after, & most shops here that sell those > things, particularly DVDs, tend to put a high variation on the costs. > As my mother isn't really up on all that, I'd hate for her to spend too > much on an item in one shop, when it might be cheaper round the corner. > > Bye for now > William From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Wed Oct 8 04:22:24 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:22:24 +0200 Subject: OFF: London shows of possible interest Message-ID: Hey Folks...FYI...Grakkl (FAA) Tuesday October 21st DAMO SUZUKI of Can (vocals) with MARK JENKINS (synthesizers), MIKE HOWLETT of Gong (bass) & The Switchdoctors Royal Festival Hall, London South Bank 7.30pm, ticket prices vary RFH Box Office; 020 7960 4242 http://www.rfh.org.uk/myh Part of the "Mind Your Head" season also featuring Acid Mothers Temple and The Incredible String Band, this will be a spectacular show of classic electronic krautrock featuring the original vocalist from the legendaryalbums "Tago Mago" and "Future Days", with Mark Jenkins on an authentic '70's keyboard setup created in discussion with Irmin Schmidt, plus Gong bassist Mike Howlett and full rock band. Friday October 24th DAMO SUZUKI of Can (vocals) with MARK JENKINS (synthesizers), MIKE HOWLETT of Gong (bass) & The Switchdoctors The Borderline, Orange Yard, Manette St, off Charing Cross Road, London W1 7.30pm (on stage 9pm) Borderline Box Office; 020 7395 0777 http://www.borderline.co.uk Another spectacular krautrock performance - this time a longer 90-minute set in a more intimate venue. From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Wed Oct 8 05:41:04 2003 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:41:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Portsmouth shows of possible interest Message-ID: >Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 10:22:24 +0200 >From: Henderson Keith >Subject: OFF: London shows of possible interest >Tuesday October 21st >DAMO SUZUKI of Can (vocals) with MARK JENKINS (synthesizers), MIKE >HOWLETT of Gong (bass) & The Switchdoctors >Royal Festival Hall, London South Bank >7.30pm, ticket prices vary Ha - you get the bassist at the RFH - & we Kangeroo Moon on Oct 15th at my local pub!! (Daevid Allens current ensemble?) Entry Free. Roll on xmas... I love seeing the lights of London..of course I refer to those 'inside' the Astoria. Maxine From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Oct 8 12:31:43 2003 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 12:31:43 EDT Subject: NIK wth Space Seed MOJO Club Baltimore 10/4 Message-ID: Took the ride down from NYC on Sat to see Nik. All I can say is F**KING AWESOME. Got to the club around 9 and watched Cotten Casino drink beer and smoke for a couple of hrs until the opener came on with Nik guesting on sax. Forgot the name of the 1st band but the bass player from Space Seed was playing lead, actually they had 2 leads, no bass, Cotton playing FX and Theremin also a subliminal chanter at the back of the stage, no drums. They played a short set after Nik left the stage, mostly Ambient Noize and were very cool! Nik and space seed started off with what I persumed to be a space Seed composition with Nik on Sax. Really Cool!. from here it just got better and better. Children of the Sun...very heavy version Orgonne Accumulator Ejection Brainstorm Master of the universe Shouldn't do that (Killer version) Silver Machine theme from Pink Panther In the Mood Tequila Niks sax playing was brilliant throughout! Very little sound effects,honks, Squanks water fowl sounds, were not evident. Space Seed who I heard for the 1st time that night were blazing!! They had all the Hawkwind Numbers nailed! Very Cool band!! The Mojo club was on the small side with a nice stage and professional sound system.? The staff was really laid back and friendly, quite unlike the gestapo shitheads we have to deal with in New York. The Light Show was done by another really cool dude name Craig Smith. He used a couple of film projectors and slide projectors along with small strobes. Very trippy!! Craig has also provided his services to Helios Creed. If anyone on this list needs a pro Light Show, here's his email? craighsmith at earthlink.net. Best Bill From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Oct 8 15:04:14 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:04:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: London shows of possible interest In-Reply-To: ; from keith.henderson@PSI.CH on Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:22:24AM +0200 Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 10:22:24AM +0200, Henderson Keith wrote: > [Damo Suzuki show dates] I'd recommend these highly. Can't speak for the backing band, but Damo's definitely worth catching. (He's kind of the 21st-century version of a wandering minstrel, travelling the globe, singing with whoever he can put together to back him. Nik's kind of like that too, but Damo doesn't even need to carry a sax; his instrument's built in :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From Farflung at COMCAST.NET Wed Oct 8 18:41:09 2003 From: Farflung at COMCAST.NET (DRider) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:41:09 -0400 Subject: HW: MQB Online Message-ID: Hey Now! Hardy asked me to spread the word ") www.mrquimbysbeard.com is now online Mr. Quimby's Beard are pleased to announce the official launch of www.mrquimbysbeard.com Although there are still some things needing to be added to complete the site, most of the planned sections are now in place. We are hoping to have a 100% fully operational site up and running very soon. In the mean time, come and visit see what you think, you may be pleasantly surprised. Let me know what you think, feedback is always appreciated. Hardy Here's what's already up and running : Past Events : The beginnings of a full documentation (including photos, set lists, etc) of every past MQB gig. Future Projects Section : With details of all future events, such as releases and gigs. Including some short (approx. 3 minutes long) sound clips from the next studio album. Sound Files : Sample mp3s (full songs) and real audio files (full albums) for every Mr. Quimby's Beard album Full Rm. Quimby's Beard Discography : Including full sleeve notes. Merchandise : Buy Albums and T-shirts directly from this site. We've always relied on a 3rd party in the past, but (via paypal) we are now able to accept orders from anywhere in the world. Lyrics section : Containing lyrics for every released MQB song. Biography : A not so brief history of Mr. Quimby's Beard. Reviews & Interviews section : Read what others have wrote about Mr. Quimby's Beards albums and shows. Links section : Links to bands, labels, zines etc. Guestbook : Have your say. Leave a comment in our guest book. Contact us : Make contact with either the band or the webmaster. From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Oct 8 18:35:40 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 18:35:40 -0400 Subject: MQB Online Message-ID: Excellent one D, Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "DRider" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:41 PM Subject: HW: MQB Online > Hey Now! > > Hardy asked me to spread the word ") > > www.mrquimbysbeard.com is now online > > Mr. Quimby's Beard are pleased to announce the official launch of > www.mrquimbysbeard.com Although there are still some things needing to be > added to complete the site, most of the planned sections are now in place. > We are hoping to have a 100% fully operational site up and running very > soon. In the mean time, come and visit see what you think, you may be > pleasantly surprised. > > Let me know what you think, feedback is always appreciated. > > Hardy > > Here's what's already up and running : > > Past Events : The beginnings of a full documentation (including photos, set > lists, etc) of every past MQB gig. > > Future Projects Section : With details of all future events, such as > releases and gigs. Including some short (approx. 3 minutes long) sound clips > from the next studio album. > > Sound Files : Sample mp3s (full songs) and real audio files (full albums) > for every Mr. Quimby's Beard album > > Full Rm. Quimby's Beard Discography : Including full sleeve notes. > > Merchandise : Buy Albums and T-shirts directly from this site. We've always > relied on a 3rd party in the past, but (via paypal) we are now able to > accept orders from anywhere in the world. > > Lyrics section : Containing lyrics for every released MQB song. > > Biography : A not so brief history of Mr. Quimby's Beard. > > Reviews & Interviews section : Read what others have wrote about Mr. > Quimby's Beards albums and shows. > > Links section : Links to bands, labels, zines etc. > > Guestbook : Have your say. Leave a comment in our guest book. > > Contact us : Make contact with either the band or the webmaster. From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Thu Oct 9 10:37:20 2003 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Reptoid) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:37:20 -0400 Subject: NIK wth Space Seed MOJO Club Baltimore 10/4 Message-ID: Glad that you had a good time at the gig Bill. Thanks for making the trip. << Any chance of any midwest shows? From youless at COX.NET Thu Oct 9 23:40:36 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:40:36 -0400 Subject: HW: HawkToy and other stuff Message-ID: Hi For those of a playful disposition... I've just added something called HawkToy to Starfarer's Hawkwind Page. It's part of the Free Hawkwind Downloads section of the site, and it should provide hours of harmless amusement :-) Other very recent additions, to suit all demeanours, are as follows: 07/10/03 -------- new Photo Gallery 79 - Dunstable 72, Part 1 added new Photo Gallery 80 - Dunstable 72, Part 2 added new Photo Gallery 81 - Dunstable 72, Part 3 added (There are 57 pictures spread across these three galleries) 04/10/03 -------- new page Hawkwind Wallpaper - Part 3 added (includes Barney Bubbles poster designs) 01/10/03: -------- new page Daze Of The Underground - Hawkwind Tribute CD Review added Starfarer's Hawkwind Page is at http://www.starfarer.net and all the above are listed at the top of the What's New page - which itself is the first link you see on the site, in red, at the top of the home page. This message goes to both the Yahoo! Hawkwind group and to the BOC- L/Hawkwind list, so my apologies to those who are seeing it twice. Cheers Steve From wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET Thu Oct 9 23:45:33 2003 From: wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET (Warrick Bell) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:45:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: 'Joan Crawford" video Message-ID: Hello BOC-L, I managed to catch the "Joan Crawford" video on VH1 Classic earlier this evening -- and a mighty weird video it is -- and I noticed that in a few scenes Al seems to be using a small branch instead of a drumstick. I'm not sure whether both sticks were replaced or if it was just the one. Everyone else is using regular instruments, and Al uses normal sticks for the rest of the clip. Anyone know the story on this? Al? Did you lose one or break one during the shoot? Do branches give you some kind of "special sound"? Does the bark come off in your hands during concerts? Are there bugs in the wood? -- Best, Warrick Bell wjbell at mail2.gis.net From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Oct 10 12:03:32 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:03:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation In-Reply-To: <200307310938.h6V9cd5x008745@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, M Holmes wrote: > If we had a government that could make the trains run on time, we > wouldn't be allowed rock festivals anyway. Shurely "if the population thought trains running on time were more important than rock festivals their spending patterns would reflect this and we'd have working trains instead of rock festivals all the bloody time"? Jon -- "If you are rich, throw away your documents. If you are poor, do so also." (Egyptian proverb) Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Fri Oct 10 17:22:54 2003 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:22:54 +0200 Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist Message-ID: Hello Does anyone has the setlist for the 5.15 gig (with Nik) in Helsinki (also the name of the club,please) even beter:covers?? greetings filip From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Oct 10 18:43:33 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:43:33 -0400 Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist Message-ID: What year? Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filip Vanhuyse" To: Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist Hello Does anyone has the setlist for the 5.15 gig (with Nik) in Helsinki (also the name of the club,please) even beter:covers?? greetings filip From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Oct 11 06:48:09 2003 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:48:09 +0100 Subject: HW: test Message-ID: 1,2 From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Oct 11 07:04:20 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael B) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 20:34:20 +0930 Subject: test off Message-ID: more echo on the vocals please ----------------------------------- Ace Rimmer (Space Adventurer) http://www.alien-dream.com ** smoke me a kipper.... I'll be back for breakfast ** (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: HW: test > 1,2 > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Oct 11 12:11:29 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:11:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:03:32 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Jarrett writes: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, M Holmes wrote: > > > If we had a government that could make the trains run on time, we > > wouldn't be allowed rock festivals anyway. > > Shurely "if the population thought trains running on time were > more important than rock festivals their spending patterns would reflect > this and we'd have working trains instead of rock festivals all the bloody > time"? Jon Indeed. Just look at how we regard people who really really like trains. Besides, apparently Mussolini didn't actually make the trains run on time. What he did was make the local trains run very late by kicking them off the line to ensure that international trains ran on time. Clearly he impressed all the right people and hence the legend. Between finding this was false and discovering that Shrub didn't really say "The French have no word for 'entrepreneur', my whole world has been shattered. FoFP From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 11 13:08:57 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 01:08:57 +0800 Subject: HW: Love in Space DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi there I see Hawkwind's Love in Space DVD is now out! Anyone watched it, & have any info to give, particularly in comparison to the original VHS release? William From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat Oct 11 15:57:17 2003 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:57:17 +0200 Subject: OT: Rush in Rio screeneings in the UK In-Reply-To: <000d01c38fe7$78a8c690$330e0c3f@DrBlackman> Message-ID: I got a letter in my mailbox and for those of You who are intersted in Rush it might prove to be a great opportunity. If You are curious in Rush current sound please visit http://www.rush.com/rushradio/ for superb versions of Working Man and YYZ Here's the letter: I'm emailing you today to tell you about the UK Screenings of Rush in Rio DVD. The time has come for the decision on UK screenings to be confirmed. I implore you to respond to the poll on the main page of TNMS (http://www.t-n-m-s.com), if you do NOT then the screenings will NOT HAPPEN!!! The screenings will be in Leeds AND Glasgow, at a privately run Cinema chain. Each screening will seat up to 250 people. Price and time of screening are still to be confirmed, but the date we are heading for is November the 8th at 13:00. The final decision for the screenings will be on Friday the 17th of October, IF response isn't great enough they will not go forward. If response is good enough and they do go ahead, tickets must be bought in advance, we will annouce all this next weekend (18th October). Please TELL everyone you know about this and try and get them to respond to the poll even if they are NOT members here. ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sun Oct 12 04:15:49 2003 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:15:49 +0200 Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist Message-ID: 03/07/99 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:43 AM Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > What year? Cheers Stephe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Filip Vanhuyse" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:22 PM > Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > Hello > > Does anyone has the setlist for the 5.15 gig (with Nik) > in Helsinki (also the name of the club,please) > > even beter:covers?? > > greetings > filip > > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sun Oct 12 08:39:18 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:39:18 -0400 Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist Message-ID: Hi, Mines missing the tracks too. I'm not familiar enough with their music to figure them out. If you find them can you let me know? Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filip Vanhuyse" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 4:15 AM Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > 03/07/99 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:43 AM > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > What year? Cheers Stephe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Filip Vanhuyse" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:22 PM > > Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > Hello > > > > Does anyone has the setlist for the 5.15 gig (with Nik) > > in Helsinki (also the name of the club,please) > > > > even beter:covers?? > > > > greetings > > filip > > > > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Oct 12 08:59:39 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 08:59:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock & Alchemical Radio shows Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (October 12, 2003): We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #89), and Alchemical Radio (show #48). You can go directly to the Radio Shows page at http://aural-innovations.com/radio/radio.html We'll have a whole bunch of new REVIEWS next week. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #89) Soma - "Being" (from Epsilon) SummerRain - "Alpha=138" (from Out Of Chaos...The Sublime (Redux) ) Helios Creed - "The Eagle" (from On The Dark Side Of The Sun) Machine Love - "Mr. Flux (from Skywatcher's Diary) Mandra Gora Lightshow Society - "Betty Day" (from Space Rave) Aska Temple - "The Door Into Summer" (from The Door Into Summer) Root Deco - "Bluesday" (from Dragon Rings A Bell) The Lords Of True Slack - "Wrong Turn At Bombay" (from Falling On Scissors) Thebrotheregg - "A Little Known Fact" (from 1090 Club) The Spacious Mind - "The Drifter" (from Reality D Blipcrotch) Alchemical Radio (show #48) Alchemical Radio is produced by our friends Terri~B and The Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label and features some of the best Psychedelia, Progressive Rock, Metal, and adventurous Pop that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions. Gamma Ray - New World Order Lope - O'Riordan Purple Overdose - I Transmit Dave Dill - The Middle Judge Trev - Tremblin' Hand Space Mirrors - It's Cold Today In Underworld Bopp - Keating's Hop Patrick Porter - Free Kittens Seth Osburn - Dissolution Jelinek Horst Attila - Guitar Hunter Paul Wilbur - Do You Remember Goff - Matchett - Sielaff - Sundial Robin Guthrie - Elemental Peter Lacey - Chime In So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Oct 12 10:46:43 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:46:43 +0100 Subject: Love in Space DVD In-Reply-To: <000101c3901a$5e8accd0$c6d93bcb@xl5> Message-ID: Given that the picture quality of the original was not really of broadcast quality (as with most Jettisoundz stuff - but better the Taste output) it's a pretty good transfer. The resolution suffers at points when the lightshow/strobes etc go mad (maybe this could have been avoided with more careful mastering?). There's no extra features at all which is a bit of a letdown. Definitely well worth having if you've not got the VHS version probably still worth it even if you have, the picture is that little bit sharper and the sound quality is superb. Would've been nice if the missing tracks (Lord of Light and Golden Void) had been included as extras but as they're not on the 2CD version I guess properly mixed versions of these don't exist and the sound quality would have been weaker (as with the encore tracks on the Black Sword DVD). -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of William Duffy Sent: 11 October 2003 18:09 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Love in Space DVD Hi there I see Hawkwind's Love in Space DVD is now out! Anyone watched it, & have any info to give, particularly in comparison to the original VHS release? William From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Oct 12 12:05:54 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 17:05:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: Roundhouse website Message-ID: Its a bit flash-heavy and it doesn't mention HW (as far as I found, though it does mention Motorhead) but it might worth keeping an eye on the rebuilding of the place over the next couple of years (starting 2004). Wouldn't it be good to see the Hawks there again? Capacity is 1800 standing for those who are interested and its available for hire. http://www.roundhouse.org.uk/home.asp Nick From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Oct 12 16:13:31 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 21:13:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: BBC Radiophonics Workshop documentary Message-ID: A treat for a connoisseurs of analogue synths that look like telephone exchanges and all noises weird and spacey.... Recently saw a trailer for a documentary on BBC4 (one of the new digital TV channels) for a history of the BBC Radiophonics Workshop entitled 'Alchemists of Sound'. Its to be transmitted next Sunday (19th Oct) no time was given in the trailer. Nick From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Oct 12 18:07:54 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 07:37:54 +0930 Subject: hawk-Vind . KoM - ooohs a cheeky boy den? Message-ID: hey man - I',m getting olderer and greyer and gradually balder awaiting all the cool update schhtuuuufff for the HawkVind.KoM wasn't there going to be an online order page and theres still the uncompleted video section and what about the download section for passport people and I seem to recall an imminent installment of the online Hawkwind virtual concert full immersion VR software complete with large breasted groupie chick audience mode option. (now theres an audience you'd be happy to be crushed in) wait..... no....... the VR software I heard about in my recent time travel trip 100 years into the future. Come to think of it all those updates were still pending even then - thus this letter. lets all send a fiver in to get the HawkVinD dOt Kom site happenin ehhhhh? From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 13 16:07:43 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:07:43 +0000 Subject: BRAIN, HW: GIG REMINDER: The Brain Surgeons & The One Eyed Bishops 10/17/03 Message-ID: Just a final reminder about The Brain Surgeons & The One Eyed Bishops in Atlantic City, New Jersey, Friday October 17th!!! For more info, see the following: Tourdates/Shows section of The Brain Surgeons website: http://www.cellsum.com or request a printable e-flyer by replying to this announcement or writing to: Sloterdijk at msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Oct 13 16:23:21 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:23:21 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Update on French leg of tour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike Burro wrote: >> Just a final reminder about The Brain Surgeons & The One Eyed Bishops in >> Atlantic City, New Jersey, Friday October 17th!!! Also, http://www.cellsum.com has been updated with some info on the French leg of the Surgeon's tour. Was anyone from the list at these shows? If so, would you care to give a report? > Who would have dreamed the Brain Surgeons would flaunt their physiques at the > Moulin Rouge? The club La Locomotive is underneath that famous venue and > provided a quick opportunity for tBS to shake their tail feathers. It was the > second show of the tour. The first night was was a longer and more intimate > surprise show at House of Live just off the Champs de Elisse. The band adding > a couple suprise shows to their already busy schedule. It has been whirlwind > of travel, interviews, autographs and jamming in every area of France. The > venues have been large and the many fans enthusiastic. Our traveling > companions and fellow countrymen, American Dog, have provided many laughs and > good times. The food has been uniformly great and most everyone we've come > into contact with have been polite, friendly and accomodating. We have some > more shows to play and a more complete report will follow. Brian From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Oct 13 20:05:13 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:05:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Killing Joke Message-ID: Saw KJ at the Astoria on Saturday night- I know quite a few on the list have a healthy appreciation of the Joke (and maybe some people were there?) so here's a brief report- excellent gig, very intense at times. Jaz Coleman still has that uniquely strange stage presence. Emphasis was on the faster/harder/heavier stuff- lots of pounding tribal rhythms. Line-up was Jaz, Geordie, Raven, plus a drummer and keyboard player, neither of whom I recognised, though I think the drummer may have been Ted Parsons (who played with Raven in Prong). They were augmented by a violinist on the opening number and the encore, neither of which were familar to me, but on this evidence I need to plug the remaining holes in my KJ collection as these were among the highlights. The encore was a soaring, Arabic-flavoured song- can anyone reveal what this was? Unlike most bands, KJ select the records played over the PA prior to the gig themsleves- building up to the gig with the Sensational Alex Harvey Band's Faith Healer was an inspired choice- mucho atmosphere generated. Once they came on they kicked off with the aforementioned unidentifiable (by me) opener and then the set went something like this: Requiem Total Invasion Wardance Blood On Your Hands Empire Song The Wait The Fall Of Because Tension Seeing Red Kings And Queens Frenzy The Death And Resurrection Show Dominator Pssyche plus the encore as above There were a few other songs played, none of which I can name off the top of my head- I'd love a full setlist if anyone's got one. I was slightly disappointed they didn't play The House That Pain Built, my favourite track off the excellent new album, indeed one of the best songs they've ever done IMHO, but then again, the new numbers they did play didn't sound as strong live as I'd expected. The older material, however, came over very powerfully. The sound could have been better at times (as per usual at the Astoria). KJ are still out on tour I think. Incidentally, do they vary the setlists from gig to gig? I saw a review of the Leeds gig a few days before this one which mentioned them playing Asteroid and Follow The Leaders, neither of which were aired on Saturday. Nick From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Oct 13 20:15:25 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:15:25 -0400 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: They should be touring the USA this month. THe dates are on the website. I'm hoping to see the Cleveland gig. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: OFF: Killing Joke > Saw KJ at the Astoria on Saturday night- I know quite a few on the list > have a healthy appreciation of the Joke (and maybe some people were there?) > so here's a brief report- excellent gig, very intense at times. Jaz Coleman > still has that uniquely strange stage presence. Emphasis was on the > faster/harder/heavier stuff- lots of pounding tribal rhythms. Line-up was > Jaz, Geordie, Raven, plus a drummer and keyboard player, neither of whom I > recognised, though I think the drummer may have been Ted Parsons (who > played with Raven in Prong). They were augmented by a violinist on the > opening number and the encore, neither of which were familar to me, but on > this evidence I need to plug the remaining holes in my KJ collection as > these were among the highlights. The encore was a soaring, Arabic-flavoured > song- can anyone reveal what this was? > > Unlike most bands, KJ select the records played over the PA prior to the > gig themsleves- building up to the gig with the Sensational Alex Harvey > Band's Faith Healer was an inspired choice- mucho atmosphere generated. > Once they came on they kicked off with the aforementioned unidentifiable > (by me) opener and then the set went something like this: > > Requiem > Total Invasion > Wardance > Blood On Your Hands > Empire Song > The Wait > The Fall Of Because > Tension > Seeing Red > Kings And Queens > Frenzy > The Death And Resurrection Show > Dominator > Pssyche > > plus the encore as above > > There were a few other songs played, none of which I can name off the > top of my head- I'd love a full setlist if anyone's got one. I was slightly > disappointed they didn't play The House That Pain Built, my favourite track > off the excellent new album, indeed one of the best songs they've ever done > IMHO, but then again, the new numbers they did play didn't sound as strong > live as I'd expected. The older material, however, came over very > powerfully. The sound could have been better at times (as per usual at the > Astoria). > > KJ are still out on tour I think. Incidentally, do they vary the setlists > from gig to gig? I saw a review of the Leeds gig a few days before this one > which mentioned them playing Asteroid and Follow The Leaders, neither of > which were aired on Saturday. > > Nick From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 13 21:15:48 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:15:48 +0000 Subject: Atlantic City Press to run feature article on Brain Surgeons & OEB show 10/17 Message-ID: The Atlantic City Press will run a feature article on The Brain Surgeons/One Eyed Bishops show at McGuire's Erin Bar & Pittsburgh Hotel on October 17th. Friday morning check out the entertainment section at: http://www.pressofac.com See you at the show!!! _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Mon Oct 13 22:08:26 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 21:08:26 -0500 Subject: HW: (Tenuous) New Model Army USA Tour In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tenuous I know New Model Armys' Drummer Rob Heaton Played on the Earth Ritual Stuff (Night of the Hawks) 'New Model Army' are doing their first tour of the USA for 10 years, an acoustic tour :-) (no drummer) If they are coming your way, they are well worth checking out, they have a new singles compilation out in the US called 'Great Expectations' which appeared last week. It's angsty gritty political and influenced by the English civil war ;-) So if you fancy something different go for it (www.newmodelarmy.org) Rich From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Oct 13 23:20:44 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:20:44 -0400 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: Thanks for that great original post Nick! I'll be at the Milwaukee, WI show Sunday, Nov 2nd. Have seen KJ once before and they were incredible. Can't wait to experience them again! Haven't seen my favorite track, "Dark Forces", from the new album on any setlists. Bummer. Oh well, it's still all good. I still have an extra ticket for the show ... it's a long story ... Looking for a "bodyguard" since the venue isn't in the safest part of town. Will just have to pay for premium parking or take a cab. Guys have it so much easier getting to gigs. Have any of you, Nick, Stephe, ... been able to register on the unofficial http://www.killing-joke.com site for the message boards? I can't and haven't heard back from the webmaster yet. Sheesh. Oh well ... on to the show! For anyone else who sees them, keep reporting in on the setlists. Thanks, Karen -- On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:15:25 -0400, Stephe Lindas wrote: >They should be touring the USA this month. THe dates are on the website. I'm >hoping to see the Cleveland gig. Cheers Stephe From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 13 23:44:33 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 03:44:33 +0000 Subject: [SLOTERDIJK-Pod] Atlantic City Press URL CORRECTION Message-ID: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com >From: "Burro Mike" >Reply-To: SLOTERDIJK-Pod at yahoogroups.com >To: boc-l at listserv.spc.edu, Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com, >sloterdijk-pod at yahoogroups.com >Subject: [SLOTERDIJK-Pod] Atlantic City Press to run feature article on >Brain Surgeons & OEB show 10/17 >Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 01:15:48 +0000 > >The Atlantic City Press will run a feature article on The Brain >Surgeons/One >Eyed Bishops show at McGuire's Erin Bar & Pittsburgh Hotel on October 17th. > >Friday morning check out the entertainment section at: >http://www.pressofac.com > >See you at the show!!! > >_________________________________________________________________ >Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy >patented spam control and more. 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _________________________________________________________________ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 14 02:06:43 2003 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:06:43 +0100 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: Me & Alan Linsley saw Killing Joke at the Bristol Academy the previous night - can add much to Nick's excellent review of the Astoria really. Balding patch instead of the old quiff, but Geordie still looks the coolest man in the universe, leaning casually on the PA and stroking the same guitar he played nearly 20 years ago on The Tube (IIRC) with that air of total disdain during Pssyche. Raven, well you just wouldn't want to meet him on a dark night. Jaz? Is this really the same guy who's produced the new Nigel Kennedy album? I was just chuffed to bits to have seen them at last. Very intense show, very violent at the front (and *very* packed house). Very touching the way they all hugged each other on stage at the end - got a sense that these three guys really want to make music with each other. Richard Chadwick was there as well, btw. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: OFF: Killing Joke > Saw KJ at the Astoria on Saturday night- I know quite a few on the list > have a healthy appreciation of the Joke (and maybe some people were there?) > so here's a brief report- excellent gig, very intense at times. Jaz Coleman > still has that uniquely strange stage presence. Emphasis was on the > faster/harder/heavier stuff- lots of pounding tribal rhythms. Line-up was > Jaz, Geordie, Raven, plus a drummer and keyboard player, neither of whom I > recognised, though I think the drummer may have been Ted Parsons (who > played with Raven in Prong). They were augmented by a violinist on the > opening number and the encore, neither of which were familar to me, but on > this evidence I need to plug the remaining holes in my KJ collection as > these were among the highlights. The encore was a soaring, Arabic-flavoured > song- can anyone reveal what this was? > > Unlike most bands, KJ select the records played over the PA prior to the > gig themsleves- building up to the gig with the Sensational Alex Harvey > Band's Faith Healer was an inspired choice- mucho atmosphere generated. > Once they came on they kicked off with the aforementioned unidentifiable > (by me) opener and then the set went something like this: > > Requiem > Total Invasion > Wardance > Blood On Your Hands > Empire Song > The Wait > The Fall Of Because > Tension > Seeing Red > Kings And Queens > Frenzy > The Death And Resurrection Show > Dominator > Pssyche > > plus the encore as above > > There were a few other songs played, none of which I can name off the > top of my head- I'd love a full setlist if anyone's got one. I was slightly > disappointed they didn't play The House That Pain Built, my favourite track > off the excellent new album, indeed one of the best songs they've ever done > IMHO, but then again, the new numbers they did play didn't sound as strong > live as I'd expected. The older material, however, came over very > powerfully. The sound could have been better at times (as per usual at the > Astoria). > > KJ are still out on tour I think. Incidentally, do they vary the setlists > from gig to gig? I saw a review of the Leeds gig a few days before this one > which mentioned them playing Asteroid and Follow The Leaders, neither of > which were aired on Saturday. > > Nick > > From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Oct 14 02:13:05 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:13:05 +0100 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: Follow the leaders was played on sunday night cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: OFF: Killing Joke > Saw KJ at the Astoria on Saturday night- I know quite a few on the list > have a healthy appreciation of the Joke (and maybe some people were there?) > so here's a brief report- excellent gig, very intense at times. Jaz Coleman > still has that uniquely strange stage presence. Emphasis was on the > faster/harder/heavier stuff- lots of pounding tribal rhythms. Line-up was > Jaz, Geordie, Raven, plus a drummer and keyboard player, neither of whom I > recognised, though I think the drummer may have been Ted Parsons (who > played with Raven in Prong). They were augmented by a violinist on the > opening number and the encore, neither of which were familar to me, but on > this evidence I need to plug the remaining holes in my KJ collection as > these were among the highlights. The encore was a soaring, Arabic-flavoured > song- can anyone reveal what this was? > > Unlike most bands, KJ select the records played over the PA prior to the > gig themsleves- building up to the gig with the Sensational Alex Harvey > Band's Faith Healer was an inspired choice- mucho atmosphere generated. > Once they came on they kicked off with the aforementioned unidentifiable > (by me) opener and then the set went something like this: > > Requiem > Total Invasion > Wardance > Blood On Your Hands > Empire Song > The Wait > The Fall Of Because > Tension > Seeing Red > Kings And Queens > Frenzy > The Death And Resurrection Show > Dominator > Pssyche > > plus the encore as above > > There were a few other songs played, none of which I can name off the > top of my head- I'd love a full setlist if anyone's got one. I was slightly > disappointed they didn't play The House That Pain Built, my favourite track > off the excellent new album, indeed one of the best songs they've ever done > IMHO, but then again, the new numbers they did play didn't sound as strong > live as I'd expected. The older material, however, came over very > powerfully. The sound could have been better at times (as per usual at the > Astoria). > > KJ are still out on tour I think. Incidentally, do they vary the setlists > from gig to gig? I saw a review of the Leeds gig a few days before this one > which mentioned them playing Asteroid and Follow The Leaders, neither of > which were aired on Saturday. > > Nick > From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 14 02:18:19 2003 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:18:19 +0100 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: Heh! "Can't" add much to Nick's excellent review is what I really meant! Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Killing Joke > Me & Alan Linsley saw Killing Joke at the Bristol Academy the previous > night - can add much to Nick's excellent review of the Astoria really. > > Balding patch instead of the old quiff, but Geordie still looks the coolest > man in the universe, leaning casually on the PA and stroking the same guitar > he played nearly 20 years ago on The Tube (IIRC) with that air of total > disdain during Pssyche. Raven, well you just wouldn't want to meet him on a > dark night. Jaz? Is this really the same guy who's produced the new Nigel > Kennedy album? I was just chuffed to bits to have seen them at last. Very > intense show, very violent at the front (and *very* packed house). > > Very touching the way they all hugged each other on stage at the end - got a > sense that these three guys really want to make music with each other. > > Richard Chadwick was there as well, btw. > > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Medford" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:05 AM > Subject: OFF: Killing Joke > > > > Saw KJ at the Astoria on Saturday night- I know quite a few on the list > > have a healthy appreciation of the Joke (and maybe some people were > there?) > > so here's a brief report- excellent gig, very intense at times. Jaz > Coleman > > still has that uniquely strange stage presence. Emphasis was on the > > faster/harder/heavier stuff- lots of pounding tribal rhythms. Line-up was > > Jaz, Geordie, Raven, plus a drummer and keyboard player, neither of whom I > > recognised, though I think the drummer may have been Ted Parsons (who > > played with Raven in Prong). They were augmented by a violinist on the > > opening number and the encore, neither of which were familar to me, but on > > this evidence I need to plug the remaining holes in my KJ collection as > > these were among the highlights. The encore was a soaring, > Arabic-flavoured > > song- can anyone reveal what this was? > > > > Unlike most bands, KJ select the records played over the PA prior to the > > gig themsleves- building up to the gig with the Sensational Alex Harvey > > Band's Faith Healer was an inspired choice- mucho atmosphere generated. > > Once they came on they kicked off with the aforementioned unidentifiable > > (by me) opener and then the set went something like this: > > > > Requiem > > Total Invasion > > Wardance > > Blood On Your Hands > > Empire Song > > The Wait > > The Fall Of Because > > Tension > > Seeing Red > > Kings And Queens > > Frenzy > > The Death And Resurrection Show > > Dominator > > Pssyche > > > > plus the encore as above > > > > There were a few other songs played, none of which I can name off the > > top of my head- I'd love a full setlist if anyone's got one. I was > slightly > > disappointed they didn't play The House That Pain Built, my favourite > track > > off the excellent new album, indeed one of the best songs they've ever > done > > IMHO, but then again, the new numbers they did play didn't sound as strong > > live as I'd expected. The older material, however, came over very > > powerfully. The sound could have been better at times (as per usual at the > > Astoria). > > > > KJ are still out on tour I think. Incidentally, do they vary the setlists > > from gig to gig? I saw a review of the Leeds gig a few days before this > one > > which mentioned them playing Asteroid and Follow The Leaders, neither of > > which were aired on Saturday. > > > > Nick > > > > > > From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Tue Oct 14 08:17:45 2003 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:17:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: Killing Joke In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ah, the Joke... I'm just about to leave Edinburgh to catch the tour once again in Dublin... indeed a true joy to have them back amongst us! Yup, you're right about the drummer...Ted Parsons. Does a fine job I think. The songs you're not sure of are Communion and Pandemonium... both off the 1995 album Pandemonium... well worth picking up, though not my fave. The reason Asteroid and Follow The Leaders were dropped was that old favourite... DISCO AFTER THE GIG... and of course, we can't keep the disco dancers waiting can we... oh my, what would happen if they had to wait another 15mins while those of us who've paid ?15 get the full show we shelled out for??!!! Can you guess this winds me up? (still not forgotten about missing out on Born To Go at the HW Xmas gig a few years back 'cos of this pish). Same thing happened in Glasgow the other week... it really does my head in, especially when you find out they were gonna play one o' yer faves (in this case Follow The Leaders). But can't keep the disco waiting eh? Hopefully Dublin tonight will have no similar nonsense... There's still a couple more UK dates... so anyone swithering... GO! cheers, Dave At 20:05 13/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Saw KJ at the Astoria on Saturday night- I know quite a few on the list >have a healthy appreciation of the Joke (and maybe some people were there?) >so here's a brief report- excellent gig, very intense at times. Jaz Coleman >still has that uniquely strange stage presence. Emphasis was on the >faster/harder/heavier stuff- lots of pounding tribal rhythms. Line-up was >Jaz, Geordie, Raven, plus a drummer and keyboard player, neither of whom I >recognised, though I think the drummer may have been Ted Parsons (who >played with Raven in Prong). They were augmented by a violinist on the >opening number and the encore, neither of which were familar to me, but on >this evidence I need to plug the remaining holes in my KJ collection as >these were among the highlights. The encore was a soaring, Arabic-flavoured >song- can anyone reveal what this was? > >Unlike most bands, KJ select the records played over the PA prior to the >gig themsleves- building up to the gig with the Sensational Alex Harvey >Band's Faith Healer was an inspired choice- mucho atmosphere generated. >Once they came on they kicked off with the aforementioned unidentifiable >(by me) opener and then the set went something like this: > >Requiem >Total Invasion >Wardance >Blood On Your Hands >Empire Song >The Wait >The Fall Of Because >Tension >Seeing Red >Kings And Queens >Frenzy >The Death And Resurrection Show >Dominator >Pssyche > >plus the encore as above > >There were a few other songs played, none of which I can name off the >top of my head- I'd love a full setlist if anyone's got one. I was slightly >disappointed they didn't play The House That Pain Built, my favourite track >off the excellent new album, indeed one of the best songs they've ever done >IMHO, but then again, the new numbers they did play didn't sound as strong >live as I'd expected. The older material, however, came over very >powerfully. The sound could have been better at times (as per usual at the >Astoria). > >KJ are still out on tour I think. Incidentally, do they vary the setlists >from gig to gig? I saw a review of the Leeds gig a few days before this one >which mentioned them playing Asteroid and Follow The Leaders, neither of >which were aired on Saturday. > >Nick From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Tue Oct 14 09:32:48 2003 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Reptoid) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:32:48 -0400 Subject: NIK wth Space Seed MOJO Club Baltimore 10/4 Message-ID: Nik is back in the UK presently, but may return in late spring/early summer. Sometime around June is a (very) rough target date and Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Dertoit, Chicago, plus other locations are under consideration. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 14 09:40:17 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:40:17 +0100 Subject: Advice required on buying minidisc recorder Message-ID: My trusty tape recorder died at Hawkfest. I think the heat was too much for it. Or perhaps some Delatron ray has been developed to destroy such devices. Anyway, the time has come to forsake reels of tape for these newfangled ones and zeros stored on oversized tiddleywinks. I have no experience of minidisc devices. I assume they can store 80 minutes like their beermat elder siblings? I guess what I'm looking for is a recorder that's as small as possible but which can take a (or two?) microphone input? Are there other features I should look for? How do I transfer to the 'puter? Can anyone reccommend particular models and microphones? All help very much appreciated... FoFP From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 14 10:32:25 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:32:25 -0400 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: Hi Karen, I don't join message boards. Can't help here. Good luck, Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kusic" To: Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Killing Joke > Thanks for that great original post Nick! > > I'll be at the Milwaukee, WI show Sunday, Nov 2nd. Have seen KJ once before > and they were incredible. Can't wait to experience them again! Haven't > seen my favorite track, "Dark Forces", from the new album on any setlists. > Bummer. Oh well, it's still all good. > > I still have an extra ticket for the show ... it's a long story ... > > Looking for a "bodyguard" since the venue isn't in the safest part of town. > Will just have to pay for premium parking or take a cab. Guys have it so > much easier getting to gigs. > > Have any of you, Nick, Stephe, ... been able to register on the unofficial > http://www.killing-joke.com site for the message boards? I can't and > haven't heard back from the webmaster yet. Sheesh. > > Oh well ... on to the show! > > For anyone else who sees them, keep reporting in on the setlists. > > Thanks, > > Karen > -- > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:15:25 -0400, Stephe Lindas wrote: > > >They should be touring the USA this month. THe dates are on the website. I'm > >hoping to see the Cleveland gig. Cheers Stephe From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 14 10:41:47 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:41:47 -0400 Subject: NIK wth Space Seed MOJO Club Baltimore 10/4 Message-ID: He better come to Cleveland. He's huge here. Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reptoid" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: Re: NIK wth Space Seed MOJO Club Baltimore 10/4 > Nik is back in the UK presently, but may return in late spring/early > summer. Sometime around June is a (very) rough target date and > Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Dertoit, Chicago, plus other locations are under > consideration. From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Oct 14 13:20:10 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:20:10 +0100 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: oh yeah i heard a rumour today that dave grohl might be playing drums for killing joke at the dublin date colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Killing Joke > Me & Alan Linsley saw Killing Joke at the Bristol Academy the previous > night - can add much to Nick's excellent review of the Astoria really. > > Balding patch instead of the old quiff, but Geordie still looks the coolest > man in the universe, leaning casually on the PA and stroking the same guitar > he played nearly 20 years ago on The Tube (IIRC) with that air of total > disdain during Pssyche. Raven, well you just wouldn't want to meet him on a > dark night. Jaz? Is this really the same guy who's produced the new Nigel > Kennedy album? I was just chuffed to bits to have seen them at last. Very > intense show, very violent at the front (and *very* packed house). > > Very touching the way they all hugged each other on stage at the end - got a > sense that these three guys really want to make music with each other. > > Richard Chadwick was there as well, btw. > > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Medford" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:05 AM > Subject: OFF: Killing Joke > > > > Saw KJ at the Astoria on Saturday night- I know quite a few on the list > > have a healthy appreciation of the Joke (and maybe some people were > there?) > > so here's a brief report- excellent gig, very intense at times. Jaz > Coleman > > still has that uniquely strange stage presence. Emphasis was on the > > faster/harder/heavier stuff- lots of pounding tribal rhythms. Line-up was > > Jaz, Geordie, Raven, plus a drummer and keyboard player, neither of whom I > > recognised, though I think the drummer may have been Ted Parsons (who > > played with Raven in Prong). They were augmented by a violinist on the > > opening number and the encore, neither of which were familar to me, but on > > this evidence I need to plug the remaining holes in my KJ collection as > > these were among the highlights. The encore was a soaring, > Arabic-flavoured > > song- can anyone reveal what this was? > > > > Unlike most bands, KJ select the records played over the PA prior to the > > gig themsleves- building up to the gig with the Sensational Alex Harvey > > Band's Faith Healer was an inspired choice- mucho atmosphere generated. > > Once they came on they kicked off with the aforementioned unidentifiable > > (by me) opener and then the set went something like this: > > > > Requiem > > Total Invasion > > Wardance > > Blood On Your Hands > > Empire Song > > The Wait > > The Fall Of Because > > Tension > > Seeing Red > > Kings And Queens > > Frenzy > > The Death And Resurrection Show > > Dominator > > Pssyche > > > > plus the encore as above > > > > There were a few other songs played, none of which I can name off the > > top of my head- I'd love a full setlist if anyone's got one. I was > slightly > > disappointed they didn't play The House That Pain Built, my favourite > track > > off the excellent new album, indeed one of the best songs they've ever > done > > IMHO, but then again, the new numbers they did play didn't sound as strong > > live as I'd expected. The older material, however, came over very > > powerfully. The sound could have been better at times (as per usual at the > > Astoria). > > > > KJ are still out on tour I think. Incidentally, do they vary the setlists > > from gig to gig? I saw a review of the Leeds gig a few days before this > one > > which mentioned them playing Asteroid and Follow The Leaders, neither of > > which were aired on Saturday. > > > > Nick > > > > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 14 14:40:03 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:40:03 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind dreams Message-ID: Does anyone else get these? I get a few where I can remember the setlist. Lately I've even had my first Hawkwind nightmares. In one I was chatting to Dave and he was explaining as how he'd joined this other band. Last night I was at some sort of fan display outside a Hawkwind gig and Nick Lee kept pointing out all these rare Hawkwind items I didn't have and had never heard of, such as the extremely rare 1970's "Velocity" single. Weird. FoFP From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 14 14:51:12 2003 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:51:12 +0000 Subject: Judge Trev on the Radio Message-ID: Hear Judge Trev (ICU) on Alchemical Radio http://www.aural-innovations.com/radio/alchemy.html RFM - Real Festival Music http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Cd's, Video's, News, Reviews, Healers, Forum, Downloads... _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 14 14:54:43 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:54:43 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind dreams In-Reply-To: <200310141840.h9EIe3I2021973@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: You're spooking me a bit now! Mind you have you heard the Eat Static remix of said single - 'Terminal Velocity' (intercuts samples from 'Free Fall')? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 14 October 2003 19:40 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Hawkwind dreams Does anyone else get these? I get a few where I can remember the setlist. Lately I've even had my first Hawkwind nightmares. In one I was chatting to Dave and he was explaining as how he'd joined this other band. Last night I was at some sort of fan display outside a Hawkwind gig and Nick Lee kept pointing out all these rare Hawkwind items I didn't have and had never heard of, such as the extremely rare 1970's "Velocity" single. Weird. FoFP From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 14 14:56:22 2003 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:56:22 +0000 Subject: New Vid: Turner/Tree/Trev at the Big Green Gathering Message-ID: "SPACEROCK SUPERGROUP FRENZY" A new "Naked Truth" vid from Real Festival Music of a remarkable gig at the Big Green Gathering Aug 2003 featuring members of Spaceritual and Mother Of All Bands - Nik Turner, Ron Tree, Judge Trev, Alice Rhubarb, Angie etc. Songs: Hooya Hoya, Ejection, Brainstorm, Orgone Accumulator, Masters of the Universe, Children of the Sun, Precious (M.O.A.B.), D Rider - 93 mins. For more info and how to get it: http://www.mercurymoon.co.uk/rfm/videos.html ...and for the RFM Big Green Gathering review with pics and vid downloads of the gig see: http://www.mercurymoon.co.uk/rfm/BGG-2003.html Trev Real Festival Music HTTP://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Reviews, News, Cd's, Vids, Forum, Downloads, Healers _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 14 14:56:52 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:52 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind dreams In-Reply-To: <200310141840.h9EIe3I2021973@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Must've been too long since your last gig... You should get yourself down to Exeter, I hear Trev has a big Hawkfendz exhibit planned, loads of rare stuff... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of M Holmes Sent: 14 October 2003 19:40 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Hawkwind dreams Does anyone else get these? I get a few where I can remember the setlist. Lately I've even had my first Hawkwind nightmares. In one I was chatting to Dave and he was explaining as how he'd joined this other band. Last night I was at some sort of fan display outside a Hawkwind gig and Nick Lee kept pointing out all these rare Hawkwind items I didn't have and had never heard of, such as the extremely rare 1970's "Velocity" single. Weird. FoFP From Farflung at COMCAST.NET Tue Oct 14 16:17:43 2003 From: Farflung at COMCAST.NET (DRider) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:17:43 -0400 Subject: OT: Killing Joke Tour Dates Message-ID: Tue 10/14/03 Dublin, IRE Temple Bar Music Centre Wed 10/15/03 Belfast, UK The Limelight Sat 10/18/03 Sheffield, UK The Leadmill Wed 10/22/03 New York, NY Webster Hall Thu 10/23/03 Washington, DC Black Cat Fri 10/24/03 Baltimore, MD Fletcher's Sat 10/25/03 Boston, MA Axis Sun 10/26/03 Philadelphia, PA Theatre Of Living Arts Tue 10/28/03 Toronto, ON Lee's Palace Wed 10/29/03 Pittsburgh, PA Club Laga Thu 10/30/03 Cleveland, OH Agora Theatre Fri 10/31/03 Detroit, MI Majestic Theatre Sat 11/01/03 Chicago, IL Metro / Smart Bar Sun 11/02/03 Milwaukee, WI The Rave / Eagles Ballroom Mon 11/03/03 Minneapolis, MN Fine Line Music Cafe Wed 11/05/03 Denver, CO Bluebird Theater Thu 11/06/03 Salt Lake City, UT DV8 Sat 11/08/03 Portland, OR Berbati's Pan Sun 11/09/03 Seattle, WA Showbox Tue 11/11/03 Vancouver, BC Richard's On Richards Thu 11/13/03 San Francisco, CA Slim's Fri 11/14/03 Los Angeles, CA El Rey Theatre Sat 11/15/03 San Diego, CA The Scene Wed 11/19/03 Sydney, AUS Metro Fri 11/21/03 Fortitude Valley, AUS Arena Entertainment Center Sun 11/23/03 Melbourne, AUS Palais Theatre From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 14 17:10:49 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:10:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: Killing Joke Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:17:45 +0100, gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote: >Ah, the Joke... I'm just about to leave Edinburgh to catch the tour once >again in Dublin... indeed a true joy to have them back amongst us! Yup, >you're right about the drummer...Ted Parsons. Does a fine job I think. The >songs you're not sure of are Communion and Pandemonium... both off the 1995 >album Pandemonium... well worth picking up, though not my fave. Thanks for filling in the blanks- I'll definitely be picking that up. FWIW my fave Joke album is "What's This For". That would have to be one of my top 10 albums of the 80s. >The reason Asteroid and Follow The Leaders were dropped was that old >favourite... DISCO AFTER THE GIG... Yeah, I had a horrible feeling it might be this. Jaz said something about time being short when they came back for the encore. I checked my watch when I got out of the gig- it was only 10.20pm! I fully agree with your sentiments on this. Nick From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 14 17:26:11 2003 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:26:11 +0100 Subject: Killing Joke In-Reply-To: <007901c39219$57a86fc0$fa23fea9@r1e1j2> Message-ID: I was puzzled by the opening & closing numbers too, but here's a set list for Bristol anyway - 1. ? (opening number with violin) 2. Requiem 3. Total Invasion 4. War Dance 5. Blood On Your Hands 6. Change 7. Seeing Red 8. Fall of Because 9. Tension 10. Death & Resurrection Show 11. Kings & Queens 12. Empire Song 13. The Wait 14. Whiteout 15. Frenzy 16. Pssyche (I think) 17. ? We were also ushered out just after 10pm to make way for...an indie/punk disco! Jaz commented that they would be back to play Bristol again "if we get through the US tour alive". You folks on t'other side of pond are in for a treat, catch them if you can. AL --- Ian Abrahams wrote: > Me & Alan Linsley saw Killing Joke at the Bristol Academy the > previous > night - can add much to Nick's excellent review of the Astoria > really. > > Balding patch instead of the old quiff, but Geordie still looks the > coolest > man in the universe, leaning casually on the PA and stroking the same > guitar > he played nearly 20 years ago on The Tube (IIRC) with that air of > total > disdain during Pssyche. Raven, well you just wouldn't want to meet > him on a > dark night. Jaz? Is this really the same guy who's produced the new > Nigel > Kennedy album? I was just chuffed to bits to have seen them at last. > Very > intense show, very violent at the front (and *very* packed house). > > Very touching the way they all hugged each other on stage at the end > - got a > sense that these three guys really want to make music with each > other. > > Richard Chadwick was there as well, btw. > > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Medford" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:05 AM > Subject: OFF: Killing Joke > > > > Saw KJ at the Astoria on Saturday night- I know quite a few on the > list > > have a healthy appreciation of the Joke (and maybe some people were > there?) > > so here's a brief report- excellent gig, very intense at times. Jaz > Coleman > > still has that uniquely strange stage presence. Emphasis was on the > > faster/harder/heavier stuff- lots of pounding tribal rhythms. > Line-up was > > Jaz, Geordie, Raven, plus a drummer and keyboard player, neither of > whom I > > recognised, though I think the drummer may have been Ted Parsons > (who > > played with Raven in Prong). They were augmented by a violinist on > the > > opening number and the encore, neither of which were familar to me, > but on > > this evidence I need to plug the remaining holes in my KJ > collection as > > these were among the highlights. The encore was a soaring, > Arabic-flavoured > > song- can anyone reveal what this was? > > > > Unlike most bands, KJ select the records played over the PA prior > to the > > gig themsleves- building up to the gig with the Sensational Alex > Harvey > > Band's Faith Healer was an inspired choice- mucho atmosphere > generated. > > Once they came on they kicked off with the aforementioned > unidentifiable > > (by me) opener and then the set went something like this: > > > > Requiem > > Total Invasion > > Wardance > > Blood On Your Hands > > Empire Song > > The Wait > > The Fall Of Because > > Tension > > Seeing Red > > Kings And Queens > > Frenzy > > The Death And Resurrection Show > > Dominator > > Pssyche > > > > plus the encore as above > > > > There were a few other songs played, none of which I can name off > the > > top of my head- I'd love a full setlist if anyone's got one. I was > slightly > > disappointed they didn't play The House That Pain Built, my > favourite > track > > off the excellent new album, indeed one of the best songs they've > ever > done > > IMHO, but then again, the new numbers they did play didn't sound as > strong > > live as I'd expected. The older material, however, came over very > > powerfully. The sound could have been better at times (as per usual > at the > > Astoria). > > > > KJ are still out on tour I think. Incidentally, do they vary the > setlists > > from gig to gig? I saw a review of the Leeds gig a few days before > this > one > > which mentioned them playing Asteroid and Follow The Leaders, > neither of > > which were aired on Saturday. > > > > Nick > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Oct 14 19:33:22 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:33:22 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind dreams In-Reply-To: <200310141840.h9EIe3I2021973@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 07:40:03PM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 07:40:03PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > Nick Lee kept pointing out all these rare Hawkwind items I > didn't have and had never heard of, such as the extremely rare 1970's > "Velocity" single. What, you mean you *don't* have that?!? Bummer! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 14 19:38:42 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:38:42 -0400 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:26:11 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?= wrote: >I was puzzled by the opening & closing numbers too, but here's a set >list for Bristol anyway - > >1. ? (opening number with violin) >2. Requiem >3. Total Invasion >4. War Dance >5. Blood On Your Hands >6. Change >7. Seeing Red >8. Fall of Because >9. Tension >10. Death & Resurrection Show >11. Kings & Queens >12. Empire Song >13. The Wait >14. Whiteout >15. Frenzy >16. Pssyche (I think) >17. ? Thanks Alan- yup, this is the same as London. (Different order possibly? I'm not sure). Whiteout was the one I forgot. Plus I always get Change and Dominator mixed up (after all they are.. er.. not a million miles apart, shall we say), but it was the former they played, not the latter as I said originally. One Joke album I have always avoided is Outside The Gate- as I understand it this is is virtually a Jaz solo album, from a period when he was not at his best psychologically, and no-one seems to have a good word to say about it. I did buy the single "America" at the time and didn't think much of it- anyone got any thoughts? Nick From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Oct 14 19:36:26 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:06:26 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind dreams Message-ID: First Hawkwind dream occured just b4 I flew over for Hawkestra. I dreamed that I was there and that Robert Calvert was a hologram projection - singing and everything with the band. I also have frequent Hawkwind concert dreams and have had a few "in the studio" with the band dreams. The latest dream was strapping into an old Apollo style rocket and the blasting off into space with Harvey Bainbridge speaking from mission controll describing all the things we would experience during lift off and as we got closer to space. Zero g was amazing....... Was just like being there i guess... ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:10 AM Subject: Hawkwind dreams > Does anyone else get these? I get a few where I can remember the > setlist. > > Lately I've even had my first Hawkwind nightmares. In one I was > chatting to Dave and he was explaining as how he'd joined this other > band. Last night I was at some sort of fan display outside a Hawkwind > gig and Nick Lee kept pointing out all these rare Hawkwind items I > didn't have and had never heard of, such as the extremely rare 1970's > "Velocity" single. > > Weird. > > FoFP > From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Oct 15 01:39:42 2003 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 06:39:42 +0100 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" > > One Joke album I have always avoided is Outside The Gate- as I understand > it this is is virtually a Jaz solo album, from a period when he was not at > his best psychologically, and no-one seems to have a good word to say about > it. I did buy the single "America" at the time and didn't think much of it- > anyone got any thoughts? Yeah, I play it a bit and really quite like it. It certainly isn't a real KJ album either musically or thematically but its interesting to hear Geordie playing in a more delicate fashion here and there. Perhaps its KJ's "Astounding Sounds", ie so different from before that its better qualities are lost in its unexpectedness? Best non-KJ record of Coleman's is the one that he did with Anne Dudley (Songs from the Eternal City?). Ian From youless at COX.NET Wed Oct 15 03:33:10 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:33:10 -0400 Subject: Love in Space DVD Message-ID: Got my copy today thanks to Andy G, and a review of it is on my site, Starfarer's Hawkwind Page: 1. Go to http://www.starfarer.net 2. Click on the What's New link in red at the top of the page 3. The topmost entry dated 14/10/03 contains a link to the Hawkwind DVD's page - click on this link 4. It's the 2nd text box down on that page Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:46:43 +0100, Nick Lee wrote: >Given that the picture quality of the original was not really of >broadcast quality (as with most Jettisoundz stuff - but better the Taste >output) it's a pretty good transfer. The resolution suffers at points >when the lightshow/strobes etc go mad (maybe this could have been >avoided with more careful mastering?). There's no extra features at all >which is a bit of a letdown. >Definitely well worth having if you've not got the VHS version probably >still worth it even if you have, the picture is that little bit sharper >and the sound quality is superb. >Would've been nice if the missing tracks (Lord of Light and Golden Void) >had been included as extras but as they're not on the 2CD version I >guess properly mixed versions of these don't exist and the sound quality >would have been weaker (as with the encore tracks on the Black Sword >DVD). > > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] >On Behalf Of William Duffy >Sent: 11 October 2003 18:09 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: HW: Love in Space DVD > > >Hi there > >I see Hawkwind's Love in Space DVD is now out! Anyone watched it, & have >any info to give, particularly in comparison to the original VHS >release? > >William From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 15 09:25:11 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:25:11 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind dreams In-Reply-To: Nick Lee's message of Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:54:43 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Lee writes: > You're spooking me a bit now! > > Mind you have you heard the Eat Static remix of said single - 'Terminal > Velocity' (intercuts samples from 'Free Fall')? I don't think so, but I have heard of the single so that may be the link that my sleeping brain made. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 15 09:26:37 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:26:37 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind dreams In-Reply-To: Eric Siegerman's message of Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:33:22 -0400 Message-ID: Eric Siegerman writes: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 07:40:03PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > > Nick Lee kept pointing out all these rare Hawkwind items I > > didn't have and had never heard of, such as the extremely rare 1970's > > "Velocity" single. > > What, you mean you *don't* have that?!? Bummer! Nah, but I do have a signed copy of the "Strange Geometries" LP. FoFP From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Oct 15 16:21:52 2003 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:21:52 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind dreams Message-ID: Mike wrote: > Does anyone else get these? I get a few where I can remember the >setlist. > >Lately I've even had my first Hawkwind nightmares. In one I was >chatting to Dave and he was explaining as how he'd joined this other >band. Last night I was at some sort of fan display outside a Hawkwind >gig and Nick Lee kept pointing out all these rare Hawkwind items I >didn't have and had never heard of, such as the extremely rare 1970's "Velocity" single. > >Weird. > >FoFP I've had many... A recurring one is seeing an extremely rare studio/live LP from 1974 in a record shop, and for some reason I don't have any means of paying for it - when I go back for it an hour later, it's disappeared and the shop has no recollection of stocking it. It changes its name from "186000 miles per second" to "Circle of least Confusion" and a dammned fine album it is too!! Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Oct 15 17:40:20 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:40:20 -0400 Subject: OT: Killing Joke Tour Dates Message-ID: < Killing Joke Tour Dates snipped ... > A friend of mine is going to be working as a guitar tech on the US and Australian legs of this tour. Freak him and the band out by yelling "Parallax One" at the shows. That's the name of his band and no-one has heard of it - if BOC-L'ers across the nation yell it they'll wonder how the **** everyone knows it - you can visit the website at http://www.parallax1.com. Hasn't been updated in a while because his family is growing and taking up much time! If the sound samples work and you like 'em, buy some CDs too. Stephan From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 16 07:45:04 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:45:04 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind dreams In-Reply-To: Mick Crook's message of Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:21:52 -0400 Message-ID: Mick Crook writes: > I've had many... A recurring one is seeing an extremely rare > studio/live LP from 1974 in a record shop, and for some reason I don't > have any means of paying for it - when I go back for it an hour later, > it's disappeared and the shop has no recollection of stocking it. It > changes its name from "186000 miles per second" to "Circle of least > Confusion" and a dammned fine album it is too!! That's the one with the instrumental version of "Caution!" on it, isn't it? FoFP From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Oct 16 10:02:13 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:02:13 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind dreams Message-ID: Mike writes: > That's the one with the instrumental version of "Caution!" on it, isn't it? > "Caution" was only released in Australia. I have it here but can't find it. My favourite song was "Sonique." Bill From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Oct 16 10:30:14 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:30:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: Rare Cds In-Reply-To: <006801c35e40$c2e65a20$bd037ad5@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > Anything else ya want to know? - yes - it's ask Andy G weekend!!(lol) -and > any questions about the lateness of the new Krel CD - well, at last minute, > we found clicks on the CD master - more delays!! One day this will come > out!!! Any news on that, by the way? I'm sort of anxious to see what this turns out like, and while it's very decent of you to wait while my budget reels from the resumption of part-time study, I also wonder what the hold up is... Hope nothing too serious, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Oct 16 12:23:19 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:23:19 -0400 Subject: OT: Killing Joke Tour Dates Message-ID: A ha! Could that possibly be "The Jester" from the www.killing-joke.com Message Board Forums? The webmaster? Is it Cliff? I know there's some connection ... If it's not Cliff ... the webmaster, "Jester", helped me get registered for the message boards. The site was having some PHP problems or something. Very nice guy! The webmaster wrote: "I may be out on the road, but have to converse with Raven in the next few days about it all. Sooooo....Maybe I will see ya in Milwaukee." So ... putting two and two together here ... The killing-joke.com web site links to PARALLAX1. Regardless, that's great that your friend gets to go along on part of the tour. Hope to get to say hi to him, whoever he is! Karen On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:40:20 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >< Killing Joke Tour Dates snipped ... > > >A friend of mine is going to be working as a guitar tech on the US and >Australian legs of this tour. Freak him and the band out by >yelling "Parallax One" at the shows. That's the name of his band and no-one >has heard of it - if BOC-L'ers across the nation yell it they'll wonder how >the **** everyone knows it - you can visit the website at >http://www.parallax1.com. Hasn't been updated in a while because his family >is growing and taking up much time! If the sound samples work and you >like 'em, buy some CDs too. > >Stephan A ha! From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Oct 16 12:51:26 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:51:26 -0400 Subject: OT: Killing Joke Tour Dates Message-ID: On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:23:19 -0400, Karen Kusic wrote: >A ha! > >Could that possibly be "The Jester" from the www.killing-joke.com Message >Board Forums? The webmaster? Is it Cliff? > >I know there's some connection ... > It is indeed Cliff, small world! Stephan From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Oct 16 15:29:36 2003 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:29:36 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind dreams Message-ID: Mike Wrote: >That's the one with the instrumental version of "Caution!" on it, isn't it? > >FoFP Heh - I think it might be, plus 'Captain Justice' and the studio version of 'You'd better believe it' Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Oct 16 21:50:02 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:50:02 -0400 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: I'll admit that I find Outside The Gate a guilty pleasure. I know it's not regarded as one of their best albums but it *is* their most melodic. Dare I say, almost proggish? Still though, Pandemonium is probably my favorite album overall and I'm in love with the "Dark Forces" track off the new 2003 album. Karen >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Nick Medford" >> >> One Joke album I have always avoided is Outside The Gate- snip >> anyone got any thoughts? From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Oct 17 06:42:56 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:42:56 +0000 Subject: Urban Guerilla Message-ID: The live one recorded on the '79 tour, I much prefer the version on Anthology where it doesn't fade out unlike the B side of the Shot Down in the Night single. Maybe the 7" vinyl run out of room? Eddie. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 17 09:19:05 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:19:05 +0100 Subject: Urban Guerilla In-Reply-To: eddie jobson's message of Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:42:56 +0000 Message-ID: eddie jobson writes: > The live one recorded on the '79 tour, I much prefer the version on > Anthology where it doesn't fade out unlike the B side of the Shot Down > in the Night single. Maybe the 7" vinyl run out of room? I reckon. It's a top version of the song though it misses out on the sheer energy of the one from the Weird tapes. FoFP From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Oct 17 10:08:29 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:08:29 +0000 Subject: Urban Guerilla Message-ID: I really don't like the one from Hawklords on weird 104 tape/cd. I think the long Live 79 version is the best one of that song I have heard, apart from maybe some of the bootlegs from that tour or Lyceum '80 which I was at although quality may lack in some cases, sweet dreams!! I have purchased my ticket nice and early for Astoria Xmas party, am looking forward to catching up with some of you guys that night. Think that was where I met you 2 years ago Mike? Eddie. >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Urban Guerilla >Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:19:05 +0100 > >eddie jobson writes: > > > The live one recorded on the '79 tour, I much prefer the version on > > Anthology where it doesn't fade out unlike the B side of the Shot Down > > in the Night single. Maybe the 7" vinyl run out of room? > >I reckon. It's a top version of the song though it misses out on the >sheer energy of the one from the Weird tapes. > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 17 10:32:15 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:32:15 +0100 Subject: Urban Guerilla In-Reply-To: eddie jobson's message of Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:08:29 +0000 Message-ID: eddie jobson writes: > I really don't like the one from Hawklords on weird 104 tape/cd. I just lie Calvert being really manic on it. > I have purchased my ticket nice and early for Astoria Xmas party, am looking > forward to catching up with some of you guys that night. Yep, got mine. I'll be there. > Think that was > where I met you 2 years ago Mike? Nearly 3 I think. Cheers Mike From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Oct 17 13:24:48 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:24:48 +0000 Subject: BRAIN: article about 2nites Brain Surgeons/ OEBs show Message-ID: Here's the link to the article...Hope to see someo f you there!! http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/entertainment/nightlife/scout2.shtml _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Fri Oct 17 13:35:56 2003 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:35:56 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: article about 2nites Brain Surgeons/ OEBs show Message-ID: Mike- Thanks for the article. I saw the Brain Surgeons in Santa Monica a few weeks ago. A great show!!! Any Chance that you'll ever play a show out west? Dan -----Original Message----- From: Burro Mike [mailto:sloterdijk at MSN.COM] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: BRAIN: article about 2nites Brain Surgeons/ OEBs show Here's the link to the article...Hope to see someo f you there!! http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/entertainment/nightlife/scout2.shtml _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Oct 17 15:00:32 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:00:32 -0400 Subject: Killing Joke Message-ID: Here's artwork for the Astoria show including a tracklist. http://www.pipeline.com/~stemfors Stephan From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Oct 17 17:40:43 2003 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:40:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Astoria Message-ID: Hello Folks! We are pleased to confirm that Tarantism will be supporting us at the Astoria gig on the winter solstice. All of you who attended Hawkfest will know what a fantastic band they are and we are looking forward to a special Christmas party!!!!! From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Oct 17 20:13:56 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:43:56 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind at Astoria Message-ID: Tarantism are superb! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hawkwind" To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:10 AM Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Astoria Hello Folks! We are pleased to confirm that Tarantism will be supporting us at the Astoria gig on the winter solstice. All of you who attended Hawkfest will know what a fantastic band they are and we are looking forward to a special Christmas party!!!!! From tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM Sat Oct 18 12:06:18 2003 From: tclark at COX-INTERNET.COM (Tom Clark) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:06:18 -0500 Subject: Well, hello Dan! Message-ID: Hey Dan and everyone...I am back among the living! Finished HepC treatment, and am clear! Whew! That was worth well the crappy experience of treatment. That disease is more prevalent than one might realize and I urge everyone to get checked. Symptoms can be pretty non-existant as was my case. Anyhow...took a hiatus from the list for a while...good to see that Hawk-mania is still going strong. Caught the Nik Turner show in Philadelphia with Spaceseed...that was quite a treat! Thought I'd rub it in! I would rate it about as well as a previous report on the show in Baltimore....grinned from ear to ear throughout the show...... Have a good one! Tom From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Oct 18 12:26:44 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:26:44 +0100 Subject: OOF: Kris on TV Message-ID: Anyone else catch Kris' (very) brief appearance on this week's episode of 'Teachers' (C4 comedy/drama) doing her fire-breathing act at a circus/funfair? From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Oct 18 12:36:15 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:36:15 +0100 Subject: Kris on TV In-Reply-To: <000801c39594$9edf0420$65c56b51@yourpnqspyopyu> Message-ID: Should've been OFF:, bloody spell checker! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Nick Lee Sent: 18 October 2003 17:27 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: OOF: Kris on TV Anyone else catch Kris' (very) brief appearance on this week's episode of 'Teachers' (C4 comedy/drama) doing her fire-breathing act at a circus/funfair? From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Oct 18 13:52:05 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:52:05 -0400 Subject: HW: Urban Guerilla Message-ID: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:19:05 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >eddie jobson writes: > >> The live one recorded on the '79 tour, I much prefer the version on >> Anthology where it doesn't fade out unlike the B side of the Shot Down >> in the Night single. There's a full-length version on the Voiceprint 'Complete 79', too, of course. And the fade is better than what they do to "Shot Down In The Night" on the single (surgery that removed most of the middle jam, and the entire final verse). >>Maybe the 7" vinyl run out of room? > >I reckon. It's a top version of the song though it misses out on the >sheer energy of the one from the Weird tapes. Yeah, of all the versions, the Hawklords/Weird Tapes version is my favorite, as Mike says, both for the sheer energy and for Calvert's manic rant (one of his best-recorded-moments IMHO). I *love* a good Calvert rant! Interestingly, the rant is more-or-less the words to "Wage War" (as on 'Yuri Gagarin'), considerably hyped-up. Dave does a good job of carrying over a similar arrangement to the 1979 version, and sounds appropriately angry for his semi-chanted take on the rant, but not as *manic* as Bob. Probably the "meatiest" version, but the keyboard is a bit over-the-top for me (it's much more of a *guitar* song). Ron Tree also did a great rendition of the song on the '95 US tour, probably the highlight of the beginning of the set. He's probably the most manic frontman HW have ever had, so he was ideal. I can't imagine Arthur Brown being the right singer for this one. However, he excels on some of the other songs that Bob wrote, so that's no problem. Just another stage in the evolution of Hawkwind ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Oct 18 14:43:55 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:43:55 +0000 Subject: BRAIN: Re:Brain Surgeons & One Eyed Bishops setlists ( sort of) Message-ID: Hi all, too tired to narrate any stories about this gig at the moment, but just let me say that The Brain Surgeons rocked!!! Here's what I remember about their set ( which is incomplete) and our own ( which is correct) The One Eyed Bishops: Smokestack Lightning Washboard Blues Sonic Attack>D-Rider London Rocker Hymie The Winey Sect Appeal Hurry On Sundown The Brain Surgeons ( what I remember ) Dr. Music Krakatoa Cities on Flame State of Emergency Astronomy Name your Monster The Siege & Investiture of Baron von Frankensteins's Castle Godzilla ( I had the fortune of being called up to the mic by Deborah Frost for this one!!..Thanks Deb!) Peace, Mike Burro PS: I APOLOGIZE IF YOU RECEIVED THIS TWICE _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Oct 18 16:04:14 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:04:14 +0000 Subject: BRAIN: Re:Brain Surgeons & One Eyed Bishops: LINEUPS Message-ID: Of course The Brain Surgeons lineup is a solid one, that being: Albert Bouchard: drums, electric mandolin & vocals Deborah Frost: bass, guitar & vocals David Hirschberg: guitar, bass & vocals The One Eyed Bishops ( lineup for 10/17) Mike Burro: acoustic guitar/vocals Jay Adcock: djembe, backing vocals Greg Elwell: electric guitar Jeff Berry: Bass guitar & backing vocals on 'Sonic Attack' >From: "Burro Mike" >To: hawkwind at yahoogroups.com, boc-l at listserv.spc.edu, >SLOTERDIJK-POD at YAHOOGROUPS.COM >CC: sloterdijk at msn.com, AFTERDARK_ST37 at YAHOO.COM, amadden at brad-ex.co.uk, >js3619 at acmenet.net, CallHomeNow at aol.com, capcloud at hawklord.com, >hchorstmann at aol.com, cratylus7 at msn.com, dornrecyclers at aol.com, >dreamwind69 at hotmail.com, drehner at head-cfa.harvard.edu, elgre at hotmail.com, >gsmithlang at aol.com, headsmithuk at yahoo.co.uk, BCRich78 at comcast.net, >jessingram57 at hotmail.com, jmp at monitor.net, kratzjohn at comcast.net, >JOHNFGERAGHTY at aol.com, joretta4 at aol.com, jperkins at mailcity.com, >kevin.com at btinternet.com, lupeo at comcast.net, mramberg at ncb.com, >nexus at panix.com, p-addison at t-online.de, Rachel at autojet.be, >rancity at comcast.net, rhanes at gate.net, RKotlarek at aol.com, >hilump at worldnet.att.net, schism33 at hotmail.com, Spiralgalaxy1988 at aol.com, >stellamarz at msn.com, swheately at flowgaurd.com, teahammers at cs.com, >warrendavis180 at msn.com >Subject: BRAIN: Re:Brain Surgeons & One Eyed Bishops setlists ( sort of) >Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:43:55 +0000 > >Hi all, too tired to narrate any stories about this gig at the moment, but >just let me say that The Brain Surgeons rocked!!! Here's what I remember >about their set ( which is incomplete) and our own ( which is correct) > >The One Eyed Bishops: > >Smokestack Lightning >Washboard Blues >Sonic Attack>D-Rider >London Rocker >Hymie The Winey >Sect Appeal >Hurry On Sundown > > > >The Brain Surgeons ( what I remember ) > >Dr. Music >Krakatoa >Cities on Flame >State of Emergency >Astronomy >Name your Monster >The Siege & Investiture of Baron von Frankensteins's Castle >Godzilla ( I had the fortune of being called up to the mic by Deborah Frost >for this one!!..Thanks Deb!) > >Peace, Mike Burro > > >PS: I APOLOGIZE IF YOU RECEIVED THIS TWICE > _________________________________________________________________ Cheer a special someone with a fun Halloween eCard from American Greetings! Go to http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/index_msn.pd?source=msne134 From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Oct 18 16:14:03 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:14:03 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK: seeking Dutch and German gigs between 1/3-1/13 Message-ID: Hello all, SLOTERDIJK is looking to return to The Netherlands and Germany between January 3-13th 2004. We need help booking a few shows and really just want to play were people want us. If you wouldlike to see us come to your area and can help, please let us know by writing to: Sloterdijk at msn.com PS: We would like to begin the dates in Holland and then move across the border if possible. In either case, we will need to stay in the western section of Germany this time. Berlin is too far east this time around....Peace...Mike _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sat Oct 18 16:26:41 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 20:26:41 +0000 Subject: BRAIN: answering Dan's question about THE OEBS coming west Message-ID: Dan, sorry, but I couldn't hit reply to answer your question, but I'll answer it now. The chances of The OEBs or SLOTERDIJK coming to California are I'm afraid 'not to good'. If we ever come out there, we'd have to do a full tour to 'try and cover expenses'. I've never been out west and it would be cool to play there, but when we spend the money on travel, we usually opt for The U.K. or Europe, however anything is possible!!!! Peace and thanks for asking.....Mike _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Oct 19 05:29:58 2003 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:29:58 +0200 Subject: HW, NIK: Knut Gerwers e-mail In-Reply-To: <042801c39290$3a45ba60$ed468118@se1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: Hi, do any of You have Knut Gerwers current e-mail adress. The thing.de doesn't work. /Kenneth ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Oct 19 11:51:36 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:51:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations: New CD Reviews Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (October 19, 2003): We've just uploaded a bunch of new reviews and an interview with improviser Eric Wallack, along with several reviews of his work. Thanks to Brian Faulkner, Chuck Rosenberg, DJ Don Smith, Jeff Fitzgerald, Louis Hesselt-van-Dinter, and Albert Pollard for their contributions. Among the reviews in this update are CD's by Sonic Flower, Tidal Flood, Aska Temple, BIOnight, Sun Zoom Spark, Black Sun Ensemble, Lifesmyth, Project Grimm, Rebel Power, Tsurubami, Rollerball, Jeff Greinke, Jeff Sherman, Arkitekchur, Instruction Shuttle, Petracovich, Williamson, The Twin Atlas, Shub Niggurath, Etron Fou Leloublan, Darling, Fjellestad/Kowald/Reason/Robinson, David Borgo, The Curtain, Bill & the AntiDepressants, Lamb, The Lightbulbs, Rebekah's Tape, The Racing Pisshorses, Mindspace, and a cool new Pearls Before Swine box set. You'll find links to all the new reviews on our What's New page, which you can access directly at http://aural-innovations.com/main/whatsnew.html At the end of the month the October issue of Aural Innovations will be online, consisting of all the articles and reviews we've published on the What's New page since July. I hope everyone has liked getting more frequent updates. Your feedback is welcome. http://Aural-Innovations.com From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Oct 19 17:37:24 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 17:37:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Forthcoming Exeter gig Message-ID: hi all unfortunately i can't make the Exeter gig next weekend but as ever I'm on the look out for gig reviews, reports and photos for the hawkwind museum, so if any of you can help then please feel free to e-mail us at dl006a5789 at blueyonder.co.uk with your thoughts. all those lucky enough to be going have a great time, i'll be thinking of you through gritted teeth! all the best dave From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Oct 19 17:59:01 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:59:01 +0100 Subject: Forthcoming Exeter gig Message-ID: I'm really hoping it's a good one - mainly because I seem to have finally converted my sister, my brother in law and two neices - they all want to come 8-O This is actually somewhat worrying. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Law" To: Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: HW: Forthcoming Exeter gig > hi all > unfortunately i can't make the Exeter gig next weekend but as ever I'm on > the look out for gig reviews, reports and photos for the hawkwind museum, > so if any of you can help then please feel free to e-mail us at > dl006a5789 at blueyonder.co.uk with your thoughts. > all those lucky enough to be going have a great time, i'll be thinking of > you through gritted teeth! > all the best > dave > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Oct 19 18:09:54 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:09:54 +0100 Subject: HW: the stones have long memories Message-ID: Here's an extract from my recent copy of British Archaeology - November 2003 (it may also be available on the web site but I confess I haven't checked yet) "The Stonehenge Laser Show - Last summer, late evening passers-by at Stonehenge might have seen a group of people carrying a strange array of futuristic-looking boxes, cables and computer equipment towards the [Stonehenge] monument. One onlooker peering through the fence, perhaps noticing the number of long-haired archaeologists, asked if the Stonehenge festival rock band Hawkwind would be playing among the stones(!). It was in fact the beginning of a project to look at the ancient carvings [using laser scanning technology] run jointly by Wessex Archaeology and Archaeoptics. It is the most hi-tech investigation ever conducted at Stonehenge" ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Oct 19 18:43:43 2003 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:43:43 +0100 Subject: the stones have long memories Message-ID: Jill You get this too! Any more on the list buying this mag? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jill Strobridge To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: 19 October 2003 23:22 Subject: HW: the stones have long memories >Here's an extract from my recent copy of British Archaeology - November >2003 (it may also be available on the web site but I confess I haven't >checked yet) > >"The Stonehenge Laser Show - Last summer, late evening passers-by at >Stonehenge might have seen a group of people carrying a strange array of >futuristic-looking boxes, cables and computer equipment towards the >[Stonehenge] monument. One onlooker peering through the fence, perhaps >noticing the number of long-haired archaeologists, asked if the >Stonehenge festival rock band Hawkwind would be playing among the >stones(!). > >It was in fact the beginning of a project to look at the ancient >carvings [using laser scanning technology] run jointly by Wessex >Archaeology and Archaeoptics. It is the most hi-tech investigation ever >conducted at Stonehenge" > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jill Strobridge >----------------------------------------------------------------- > From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Mon Oct 20 10:04:28 2003 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:04:28 +1000 Subject: the stones have long memories Message-ID: Now we have proof of something we all knew - that Hawkwind were way ahead of their time. Allan Sharpe sharpies at idx.com.au ----- Original Message ----- One onlooker peering through the fence, perhaps noticing the number of long-haired archaeologists, asked if the Stonehenge festival rock band Hawkwind would be playing among the stones(!). It was in fact the beginning of a project to look at the ancient carvings [using laser scanning technology] run jointly by Wessex Archaeology and Archaeoptics. It is the most hi-tech investigation ever conducted at Stonehenge" From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Oct 20 15:39:34 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:39:34 -0400 Subject: HW: the stones have long memories In-Reply-To: <012301c3968d$ba708fc0$b45887d9@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:09:54PM +0100 Message-ID: On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:09:54PM +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: > It was in fact the beginning of a project to look at the ancient > carvings [using laser scanning technology] run jointly by Wessex > Archaeology and Archaeoptics. Actually it was Del D, up to his old Archaeoptericks. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Oct 20 19:28:27 2003 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 19:28:27 -0400 Subject: BOC:we need your vote!!! Message-ID: ...and no sign of BOC...what's up with that?! - Worlds Best Band poll update! Alright, The Heep is now in #16 with 790 votes. A few more, and we'll beat Queen and Radiohead! Here's the link to cast your vote: < http://fredag.dagbladet.no/fredag/2003/07/25/374214.html > c'mon and vote From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Oct 20 23:52:35 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:52:35 -0400 Subject: HW: the stones have long memories Message-ID: Excellent pun Eric! On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:39:34 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:09:54PM +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: >> It was in fact the beginning of a project to look at the ancient >> carvings [using laser scanning technology] run jointly by Wessex >> Archaeology and Archaeoptics. > >Actually it was Del D, up to his old Archaeoptericks. > >-- > >| | /\ >|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >| | / From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Oct 21 07:44:03 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:44:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Woronzow All-Dayer review (long) Message-ID: Dear All, haven't yet forwarded this review I wrote to BOC-L which is silly considering at least some of you here will be interested which is probably more than the local Rock Society were... featuring Adrian Shaw, Pete Pavli, Tony Hill, Nick Saloman, Rod Goodway and other tangential nearly-Hawks... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:46:10 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Jarrett Subject: Gigs I been to lately, four of some Well, you know, someone tell me to stop, but meanwhile: Woronzow All-Dayer, The Standard, Walthamstow, 19/07/03 I had left late, but I timed it well, as I walked in the door of the Standard just in time to put my bag down as Outskirts of Infinity took the stage. Outskirts of Infinity have not gigged properly for about ten years now though some version of them was at the Bevis Frond Valedictory All-Dayer with Nick "Bevis Frond" Saloman trying to remember their songs from when he played bass for them and a stand-in drummer. As the point of the band is more or less the guitar player, Bari Watts, that didn't seem at all bad to me, but this time a proper line-up which will be gigging again soon was playing and it was a different animal to that loose Band- of-Gypsies-like performance. My notes read "`eavy; lots of `fling'; little rehearsal; Bari several kinds of guitarist; weird dynamics w/ bass player ignoring Bari; drummer plays music". And I stand by every word! No, seriously. The way Bari was playing varied from song to song. Some songs they played with a strong guitar part; they opened with the Bevis Frond's `Eyes In The Back Of My Head' and that had a lot of screaming riff; but some songs were almost entirely rhythm-section driven with Bari just generating stratospherics while the others actually played the tune. That seemed the optimal combination to me, as they actually could carry a set by themselves if need be; Ric Gunther has a big kit with two floor toms and would occasionally drop into a kind of Kodo-like thing with them and the bass player also made a lot of well-placd noise; they drove hard and fast. Bari was fantastic, but very often almost irrelevant to the song, only there to unscrew the top of your head to let them get through to your spine more easily. I was singing along with the bass for a lot of it, as he moved off the bassline in ways I found it easy to predict but also enjoyed a great deal as he hardly stayed on it where he didn't have to. He was also, as I say, apparently ignoring Bari most of the time; there were several patches where Bari came over and stared at the bass for a bit before going back to his side of the stage, as if he was trying to work out what the bassist was playing, but they never seemed to change what they were doing, either of them, as a result of this. Couldn't figure that one out. About half the set was covers, so I got down a list of sorts; there was `Eyes In The Back Of My Head' as I said, then they played `Lord of the Dark Skies' which was fantastic, and almost unrecognisable in this form from when I last heard it now it had a shape at the bottom too; `Tales of Brave Ulysses' (Bari did a sterling Clapton impression here, which is to say he was less interesting than usual, but it was a bit rough all the same), an Arthur Lee cover whose name I didn't catch which went on for a good while, a thing of their own called `Jupiter Jam' which led off into a long drum-led breakdown during which Bari paused to bum a fag (American-speakers please doubletake) off one of the audience before joining in again and it didn't matter at all, `Stoned Crazy', a little short number to wind up at maximum pace. They were still a little rough but shining with talent under the polish they were acquiring even as they played. If they gig near you, see them. Next up was Adam Goldman, from a US Band called Thebrotheregg. He was doing a solo set with an acoustic guitar and what he thought was original observations about how strange the UK seems to Americans. I was not impressed by him and took the set to get beer, which I hadn't been able to do so rapidly had OoI come on, then get money and buy six CDs at once for ?45.00. After them was Fiction, Tony Hill's band which was more or less what I was there for. Dean the bass-player had acquired some circular purple shades and thus looked even more completely like Ozzy than he already had. He is the ideal guitarist's bass-player, unintrusive, regular but there to play around when that's wanted. Drummer still underwhelming but competent. Tony seems to look younger every time, and from the transformation that having the music flow through him seems to make I could well believe he'll be back into his forties by the time they get an album out. There was dry ice and smoke, it was much more like a real gig than last time I saw them. They opened with `Right Now Forever', followed it up with a recent creation which may be called `Come And See Me', a new one entitled `Subject', `Conscious Accident', and `But There Again', this last with extra jam. Then `Could Have Been', which was destroyingly dark; when the end of the world is announced it will be done in Tony Hill's voice. Then, for the last number Dean stepped off the stage and was replaced by none other than Pete Pavli, and they did `Death Warmed Up', for the first time since gods know when. Last time I saw Fiction Tony was saying he wouldn't do High Tide stuff any more, because he didn't feel that way any more and it would kill the songs off; he seemed to find something in this one he could enjoy, it was great. Shaky in the changes, it's a complex song, but still great. I nabbed Dean afterwards and managed to extract a signed CD from him, and gathered that this surprise had been Adrian Shaw's doing, and that he'd contacted Simon House as well but that Mr House would have none of the idea. Bah. Oh well. That would have just about killed me and Kirsten would have been very jealous, so maybe it's as well. They instead had a second guitarist, one John Perry, but he never really got out of mid-range riffing and I'm not at all sure why they bothered. At least he didn't actually hurt the moment, but he was no substitute for a violin. Next up was Anton Barbeau, another American popster though this one slightly more interesting, mostly because he had the Bevis Frond as backing band, but also just through quality of his material. Nick and Adrian hardly knew some of the material but it really didn't show, because they're both really good musicians; Anton himself seemed to be playing his personality more than anything else, coming over very quirky cheerful gum-chewing social commentator. Some of his lyrics were quite good but I eventually decided he was achieving this by observing things in such detail that by changing perspective he could suddenly bring a whole new light onto something; a good technique, but we shouldn't be surprised at seeing the rest of the world when we step away from the microscope really. I wrote: "engaging but not excellent; a possible instance of the failure of Woronzow discernment?" Setlist, as most of it was introduced, I can tell you was as follows, at least some of it from his album with Nick and Ade, _King of Missouri_: Dark Fade/ King of Missouri/ ?/ I Remember Everything [I did quite like this one actually]/ Check's In the Mail [whereas this was a bit boring]/ I Don't Like You [simple, to the point]/ Swamp Man [apparently about George Dubya, though as he said he had to explain this because there was no way to tell from the lyrics]. I think next time I shall pay more attention to him, but this time I was instead trying to scam a Fiction CD (which I now have with all three signatures), and capture Ade Shaw, which I did not yet achieve. Meanwhile, chairs were placed all across the front of the stage, and I rapidly understood that Rod Goodway's Ethereal Counterbalance was about to happen. The way this works is that the erstwhile Magic Muscle frontman, now not terribly well and rather more contemplative after hepatitis which has him on the list for a liver transplant, gathers everyone he can find, gets them on stage and sets them going. The competence of the musicians sometimes makes this quite stunning in a slow-moving evolving beautiful way and Goodway can improvise words which fit with this mood easily; sometimes it's just tedious. This time they got away with it. The simplest way to review it is just to type up my notes, as there was (is always) only one `song', which goes on for twenty minutes plus, it's difficult to sum up. Line-up, for a start, was, left to right, Joe Turner (late of Abunai!) on electric mandolin and delay pedal, Paul Simmons (Alchemysts, Bevis Frond) on guitar, Pete Pavli on bass, Adrian Shaw on bass, Rod Goodway on voice, some unknown kid playing acoustic percussion of a few sorts, John Perry on guitar, Nick Salomon on guitar and Keith Christmas on guitar. Enough to fill a stage. Of all this I wrote: "Shaw starts first no., Simmons and Goodway mostly make it to start well but it builds--the uke player likes *bad* feedback--he is is *wrong*; shape loses three or so minutes in, Shaw rescues it as ever; Christmas starts to turn out really rather beautiful; uke feedback turned to space noise with delay; Salomon unmistakable but everyone finds room--Pavli and Shaw have half the riff each and both improve it every time for a bit--Goodway knows about mortality of course but I know he does of course--and the bass stops, now will everyone else? Instead a building crescendo and slowly--but comes to a stop as Shaw picks up on percussion--noise but how far? No. Simmons picks up but percussion isn't strong enough and it comes to a slow stop which itself goes on for some minutes." That last riff Adrian set up could have turned into a spacerock juggernaut if only enough people had picked it up, but it was all rather pretty anyway. Christmas especially surprised me, and set my expectations for his set rather high. A success, but not by much but luck and Adrian and Paul sometimes managing to turn the thing slightly. I then managed to capture Adrian and Nick in short order to get Kirsten's CD signed and meanwhile the Lucky Bishops took the stage. I've never quite got The Lucky Bishops. They're all very talented, and they play very well together, but the songs, which are quite chunky British guitar-pop, don't get me. I think they've missed the Britpop boom which might have picked them up by then years at least and will never achieve very much, and while I'm glad they exist in some way I wish they'd do something more interesting. But hey, if they're happy. I spent most of the set talking to the photographer for Nik Turner's Space Ritual whom I'd correctly spotted, but we couldn't hear very much of what either one said and I can't say I was much wiser for the experience. This meant that all my missions were accomplished however and now I could enjoy the sets without worrying about what I needed to do when they were over. Keith Christmas was next on, playing a solo acoustic set; he can certainly play and has some nice songs, but he wasn't the legend one of his fans led me to expect as he was setting up. Scared by playing live after so long, he said, a nice man with some nice songs and a good hand with a guitar but I wouldn't have paid to see him by himself, just not exciting to me. Glad to see anyone who's been away from music coming back and making a decent go of it though (how many of these are there on Woronzow, for heavens' sakes, and how does Ade Shaw not only know all of them but talk them onto a stage again? Ah well.) The songs were called `Western Man', one I didn't catch the name of, `Heart Soul Body and Mind' (song about US patriotism I think, lots of slide here, did like this actually), `Love Like This' (twee, patronising), another unknown and `Slave to Your Love'. And finally the Bevis Frond. Having not seen them in this lineup before I was apprehensive; I know Paul Simmons is great of course but I did wonder why they needed him, and in fact he wasn't doing much but rhythm for a lot of the set and this seemed a waste. New drummer (Jules Fenton) is an animal, really seems to want to hurt his kit and found spaces for fills wherever the songs would let him but there isn't a lot of this; the function the Frond live is to back Nick, basically, which was why I was wondering what Paul would do. All the same it was good. Nick is a superb songwriter, and plays like an angel (though I think he plays better without someone else sharing the range with him personally, Dave Brock syndrome), and though they are at worst a sixties-style pop band with more guitar they're bloody good at that and often they are more. I don't think they're quite the legend their real fans seem to believe but I'll go and see them every chance I get. Nick's muse is a good kind of hurt. But today he was seemingly quite cheerful, and that kind of took some power out of it. Anyway, we got: `Lord of Nothing' (I think), `Hole Song #2', a new one possibly called `Serving Out Your Time' (this was good, bitter), `Stoned Train Driver' (followed by a ramble from Nick about how he'd have to modernise the lyrics because they mentioned `chill-out tapes' and him deciding eventually to remain a dinosaur before finally, as do many of Nick's stage asides, finishing in incoherence), `Temple Falls' (maybe, going only by misheard lyrics here), something almost certainly called `Pass It On' for which Nick strapped on his sitar guitar, and spent some minutes just noodling with it and ending in big all-strings chords until the rest of the band got bored of waiting for those to join in with, but then the actual song was fabulous too, ages long and with some fabulous twin lead now Paul was the only guitar; Nick therefore announced, "enough of this psychedelic rubbish' and led of with... `Maybe' (cor, Paul and Nick are awake now), and then they did `Silver Dart' (probably the only one off the current album), a long ramble about the sad state of Adam Ant, whom Nick and many present apparently knew way back when, which led Nick (amid panic from Jules and cheers from Paul) to try and improvise a new Adam Ant number on the spot, which probably thankfully only lasted a verse, and then did `Change in the Weather' from _Acid Jam II_, `Stain On The Sun' (this will always be lovely, but was a bit thick and sweet today), and ended with something I didn't recognise and can't find a plausible title for. They then introduced the band, which meant that as time ticked towards my last-train threshold, I managed to stay for Paul's solo, the first time he'd really been able to cut loose all gig and gosh is he good; he went up a gear after the first get-it-out-of-the-system gratuitous shred and started roping in bits of Bach and so on, very Blackmore in approach if not sound; I managed to stay for Jules's which was very, well, rock drummer, tremendously able but only occasionally musical, though those bits were very good and he was very watchable and sort of toured the kit visiting each part with a slowly-moving focus; but I had to scoot out of the door as Adrian's bass-overdrive began to shake the rafters, which is a pity as I'd love to have heard what he did to follow that and Nick's solo might also have been worth hearing as he too had been somewhat restrained by the standards of the last time I saw him. Generally however a top-notch performance, not quite all-out guts- and-everything but still a head and shoulders above almost any other band you could find playing in a pub on a Saturday night. Yours, Jon -- "If you are rich, throw away your documents. If you are poor, do so also." (Egyptian proverb) Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Oct 21 11:00:19 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:00:19 +0100 Subject: OFF Dio/MH In-Reply-To: <200308192222.SAA10824@www1524.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM wrote: > Sorta like the line from "We Are Motorhead". . . > > "We are the ones you heard of, but you've never heard." > > Let's put it this way, though: I'm willing to bet Motorhead sells more t-shirts than Dio sells albums. And at 35 bucks a pop, I'd rather sell a shirt than a record. I bet the clothing company takes less off the top than a record label anyway. > > >But aren't Motorhead the top band known for selling > >more t-shirts than > >actual albums (I'm pretty sure Lemmy even mentions > >this in his > >autobiography)? > > > > -Doug (who wouldn't be caught dead wearing a > >Dio t-shirt!) I've seen that bit of autobiography quoted, I think, and it goes on "but I don't mind, because I get paid more for the t-shirts than I do for the albums!" or something very much like that. Sad but probably true... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Oct 21 11:16:43 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:16:43 +0100 Subject: NIK: Space Rock News - 19 August 2003 In-Reply-To: <006e01c36762$f0fa5760$577a7ad5@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > Also in stock this week will be the new "Greasy Truckers 2003" CD featuring > four live tracks from Nik's Space ritual.net recorded at the event, plus > tracks from Tractor, Guitar George, Kid Strange , all recorded at the event. I'm slow: what event was this? All the previous GTP events have been in November so 2003's shouldn't have happened yet. Has Nik been recordin in the future? Is this why Space Ritual's new album is taking so long to emerge, because they forgot to bring it back with them? Enquiring minds need to know... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Oct 21 11:31:49 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:31:49 +0100 Subject: HW:My trip to the Milkyway/Amsterdam In-Reply-To: <000a01c36998$41609520$aee4a451@pandora.be> Message-ID: On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > I told you already about the gig at the start,but still want to point out Keith Barton,guitar > Way,way much better than Jerry(who isn't ?,haven't said this,haven't said this,ducking,ducking,but I mean it) > If you don't know who Keith is,he's the guitarplayer from Spacehead.(Mr.Dibbs you know) > I must say he's really really good. > He doesn't look like a Hawkwind member(short hair,etc.),but hey Keith I don't look like a Hawknut neither,don't I (had some great laughs,but keep up the good works and the wah wah) I saw Keith with Spacehead but I haven't yet seen him with Hawkwind. I've gotta say he didn't challenge Jerry that time, but I'm one of the few people who seems to think Jerry was any good at all. If anything Jerry's problem was that he was too much like Dave only faster; his style didn't contrast anything like as much as Huw's does and so all you get to notice is the chops and widdling. Assuming he hadn't been mixed out by the soundman in the first place as seems to keep happening to Hawkwind's lead instruments. But he is pretty accomplished in my book. If Keith is playing better than that I shall be impressed at the Christmas Party... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 21 11:40:29 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:40:29 +0100 Subject: Windwos hawkstuff? Message-ID: So are there any hawk-related windows backgrounds and sounds files that are ready for the customising of windoze? FoFP From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 21 11:53:42 2003 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (RMayo19761 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:53:42 EDT Subject: OFF Dio/MH Message-ID: In a message dated 10/21/2003 11:01:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > because I get paid more for the t-shirts than I do > for the albums!" or something very much like that. Sad but probably > true... very true, if the band owns the rights to their merchandising licensing. this is one reason why some bands are on the road as much as they are; merchandising money is often times the lifeblood of a band bobm "It's extraordinary how potent cheap music can be." -Noel Coward From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Mon Oct 20 21:46:01 2003 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:46:01 +0200 Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist Message-ID: Hello Stephen, Couldn't find a tracklist,made a cover for it anyhow Do you want it? greetings filip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:39 PM Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > Hi, Mines missing the tracks too. I'm not familiar enough with their music > to figure them out. If you find them can you let me know? Cheers Stephe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Filip Vanhuyse" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 4:15 AM > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > 03/07/99 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephe Lindas" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:43 AM > > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > > What year? Cheers Stephe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Filip Vanhuyse" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:22 PM > > > Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > Does anyone has the setlist for the 5.15 gig (with Nik) > > > in Helsinki (also the name of the club,please) > > > > > > even beter:covers?? > > > > > > greetings > > > filip > > > > > > > > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 21 13:47:33 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:47:33 -0400 Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist Message-ID: Hi Filip, Yes please. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filip Vanhuyse" To: Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:46 PM Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > Hello Stephen, > > Couldn't find a tracklist,made a cover for it anyhow > Do you want it? > > greetings > filip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > Hi, Mines missing the tracks too. I'm not familiar enough with their music > > to figure them out. If you find them can you let me know? Cheers Stephe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Filip Vanhuyse" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 4:15 AM > > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > > 03/07/99 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Stephe Lindas" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:43 AM > > > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > > > > > What year? Cheers Stephe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Filip Vanhuyse" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:22 PM > > > > Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > Does anyone has the setlist for the 5.15 gig (with Nik) > > > > in Helsinki (also the name of the club,please) > > > > > > > > even beter:covers?? > > > > > > > > greetings > > > > filip > > > > > > > > > > > > From gg at NINJANET.COM Tue Oct 21 13:46:35 2003 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:46:35 +0200 Subject: Windwos hawkstuff? In-Reply-To: <200310211540.h9LFeTt0006663@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: M wrote: > So are there any hawk-related windows backgrounds and sounds files that are > ready for the customising of windoze? i've made a background from screenshots of Chronicle of the Black Sword DVD. If you want I can send it. ciao, gg -- www.shapeless.it - italian metal webzine www.iammol.com - it.arti.musica.metal online From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Mon Oct 20 23:28:11 2003 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 05:28:11 +0200 Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist Message-ID: Sorry,I thought this was off-list Mea culpa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filip Vanhuyse" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:46 AM Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > Hello Stephen, > > Couldn't find a tracklist,made a cover for it anyhow > Do you want it? > > greetings > filip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > Hi, Mines missing the tracks too. I'm not familiar enough with their music > > to figure them out. If you find them can you let me know? Cheers Stephe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Filip Vanhuyse" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 4:15 AM > > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > > 03/07/99 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Stephe Lindas" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:43 AM > > > Subject: Re: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > > > > > What year? Cheers Stephe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Filip Vanhuyse" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:22 PM > > > > Subject: OFF:5.15 setlist > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > Does anyone has the setlist for the 5.15 gig (with Nik) > > > > in Helsinki (also the name of the club,please) > > > > > > > > even beter:covers?? > > > > > > > > greetings > > > > filip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Oct 21 13:59:44 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:59:44 -0400 Subject: Windwos hawkstuff? Message-ID: There is a theme! It's been available for years. Cool sounds and everything. I have it installed on my Win98 computer but didn't try it on XP. http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/preview.pl/themes/hawkwind.zip Karen On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:40:29 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >So are there any hawk-related windows backgrounds and sounds files that are >ready for the customising of windoze? > >FoFP From dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Oct 21 14:41:27 2003 From: dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK (Sean McMahon) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:41:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Album out? Message-ID: Check out this link, Hawkfest 2002 released 6/10/2003. Also AS, QS+C and WOTEOT are on there again with catalogue numbers and the lot! If you click on AS, it shows people who bought this also bought the above! http://www.101cd.com/search/artistall.asp?artist=HAWKWIND From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Oct 21 14:52:25 2003 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:52:25 -0400 Subject: Album out? Message-ID: Here is the link from the Voiceprint site: http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/voiceprint.php/Catalogue/Search/hawkwind/HAWKVP1 00CD Dan -----Original Message----- From: Sean McMahon [mailto:dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:41 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Album out? Check out this link, Hawkfest 2002 released 6/10/2003. Also AS, QS+C and WOTEOT are on there again with catalogue numbers and the lot! If you click on AS, it shows people who bought this also bought the above! http://www.101cd.com/search/artistall.asp?artist=HAWKWIND From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Oct 21 14:17:14 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:47:14 +0930 Subject: HW:My trip to the Milkyway/Amsterdam Message-ID: Keith Barton... Added some exellent sounds to the amsterdam set at the melkweg and at the fest seemed to do fine but I couldn't really hear him well enough to really say. Then again I was right at the front of the stage. Jerry Richards is a definate talent on the guitar and his part in the Australian studio 22 show was exellent.... but to compare his playing as being too much like Dave??????? Thanks for the laugh - but I see no comparison - two totally distinct styles I'd say. Huw Lloyd Langton - well, no one can compare. Forever legendary in my book. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: Re: HW:My trip to the Milkyway/Amsterdam > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > > > > > I told you already about the gig at the start,but still want to point out Keith Barton,guitar > > Way,way much better than Jerry(who isn't ?,haven't said this,haven't said this,ducking,ducking,but I mean it) > > If you don't know who Keith is,he's the guitarplayer from Spacehead.(Mr.Dibbs you know) > > I must say he's really really good. > > He doesn't look like a Hawkwind member(short hair,etc.),but hey Keith I don't look like a Hawknut neither,don't I (had some great laughs,but keep up the good works and the wah wah) > > I saw Keith with Spacehead but I haven't yet seen him with > Hawkwind. I've gotta say he didn't challenge Jerry that time, but I'm one > of the few people who seems to think Jerry was any good at all. If > anything Jerry's problem was that he was too much like Dave only > faster; his style didn't contrast anything like as much as Huw's does and > so all you get to notice is the chops and widdling. Assuming he hadn't > been mixed out by the soundman in the first place as seems to keep > happening to Hawkwind's lead instruments. But he is pretty accomplished in > my book. If Keith is playing better than that I shall be impressed at the > Christmas Party... Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk > "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, > So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." > (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Oct 21 14:19:09 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:49:09 +0930 Subject: Windwos hawkstuff? Message-ID: Starfarers.net has a collection of screen savers and I wouldn't be surprised if there are also walpaper pics - but you can always easily turn any ole jpg into a walpaper and if you have a graphics program like photoshop make a really fancy doodle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:10 AM Subject: Windwos hawkstuff? > So are there any hawk-related windows backgrounds and sounds files that are > ready for the customising of windoze? > > FoFP > From youless at COX.NET Tue Oct 21 16:53:18 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:53:18 -0400 Subject: Windwos hawkstuff? Message-ID: Screensavers, wallpapers and Winamp skins...all free. Correct URL is http://www.starfarer.net and click on the Free Hawkwind Downloads link when you get there. Mike Parks' Wind Of Change site has another theme, different to the one that Karen posted. See http://www.mdparks.fsnet.co.uk/hw/windof/index.html And I just added a link to a site that has 3 rather good Hawkwind wallpapers, see http://mitglied.lycos.de/tmillin/classicrock5.htm Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:49:09 +0930, Michael Blackman wrote: >Starfarers.net has a collection of screen savers and I wouldn't be >surprised if there are also walpaper pics - but you can always easily turn >any ole jpg into a walpaper and if you have a graphics program like >photoshop make a really fancy doodle. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "M Holmes" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:10 AM >Subject: Windwos hawkstuff? > > >> So are there any hawk-related windows backgrounds and sounds files that >are >> ready for the customising of windoze? >> >> FoFP >> From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Tue Oct 21 17:17:03 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:17:03 -0500 Subject: HW: Ebay 8 Tracks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In Search of Space - 8 Track Carts for the Kollectors amongst us. Just in case anyone missed these on Ebay, I know they're a pain to pick up: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2565983740&category=1601 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2566277052&category=1601 Rich W From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Tue Oct 21 17:32:19 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:32:19 -0500 Subject: OFF: Chrome/Pressurehed/Helios Creed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I turned up something interesting the other day while ratching, it seems Cleopatra put out a Chrome 'family' box almost along the lines of the hawkwind box, but with only 3 CDs. The box I saw had 1 Chrome CD, 1 Helios Creed, and the 3rd was a Pressurehed CD, but it was a budget price offer for 11$, may be worth looking out for if you wanted to check out HC cheaply :-) And more than worth it for just the Pressurehed CD Rich W From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 21 17:46:39 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:46:39 +0100 Subject: Album out? Message-ID: Just to reiterate a point: QS&C, WOTEOT and ASAM have NOT been rereleased and they are not scheduled to be rereleased. If and when they are scheduled for rerelease, you will read about it on Mission Control. Colin Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean McMahon" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: HW: Album out? > Check out this link, Hawkfest 2002 released 6/10/2003. Also AS, QS+C and > WOTEOT are on there again with catalogue numbers and the lot! > If you click on AS, it shows people who bought this also bought the above! > > http://www.101cd.com/search/artistall.asp?artist=HAWKWIND > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Oct 21 19:52:33 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:33 -0400 Subject: HW: Ebay 8 Tracks In-Reply-To: ; from cosmicdolphin@COMCAST.NET on Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 04:17:03PM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 04:17:03PM -0500, Rich wrote: > In Search of Space - 8 Track Carts for the Kollectors amongst us. Hey Mike, is this what you meant about "Strange Geometries"? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 22 06:36:38 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:36:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Ebay 8 Tracks In-Reply-To: Eric Siegerman's message of Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:52:33 -0400 Message-ID: Eric Siegerman writes: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 04:17:03PM -0500, Rich wrote: > > In Search of Space - 8 Track Carts for the Kollectors amongst us. > > Hey Mike, is this what you meant about "Strange Geometries"? Only if you need an 8 dimensional universe to play them. FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Oct 22 18:51:20 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:51:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Exeter Message-ID: So who's going to this? Any suggestions for a pub meet beforehand? Nick From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Oct 22 18:08:18 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:08:18 +0100 Subject: Chrome/Pressurehed/Helios Creed Message-ID: Got one copy in stock at CD Services in our "sale" section so anyone interested, first come first serve - can't remember price but think about ?9 plus postage. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:32 PM Subject: OFF: Chrome/Pressurehed/Helios Creed > I turned up something interesting the other day while ratching, it seems > Cleopatra put out a Chrome 'family' box almost along the lines of the > hawkwind box, but with only 3 CDs. > > The box I saw had 1 Chrome CD, 1 Helios Creed, and the 3rd was a Pressurehed > CD, but it was a budget price offer for 11$, may be worth looking out for if > you wanted to check out HC cheaply :-) And more than worth it for just the > Pressurehed CD > > > Rich W From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Thu Oct 23 01:41:52 2003 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:41:52 +0100 Subject: Album out? In-Reply-To: <003401c3981c$cf41ad40$883dfea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Since these sell for ?25 at throw on eBay there must be a demand for them. I heard a story that the master tapes were owned by an estranged ex manager who wouldn't relinquish them. JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Colin J Allen Sent: 21 October 2003 22:47 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Album out? Just to reiterate a point: QS&C, WOTEOT and ASAM have NOT been rereleased and they are not scheduled to be rereleased. If and when they are scheduled for rerelease, you will read about it on Mission Control. Colin Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean McMahon" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: HW: Album out? > Check out this link, Hawkfest 2002 released 6/10/2003. Also AS, QS+C and > WOTEOT are on there again with catalogue numbers and the lot! > If you click on AS, it shows people who bought this also bought the above! > > http://www.101cd.com/search/artistall.asp?artist=HAWKWIND > From youless at COX.NET Thu Oct 23 02:19:57 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 02:19:57 -0400 Subject: Album out? Message-ID: You may have read that on my site and I don't know that it is still the case, in fact I strongly suspect not. My guess, and it is only a guess, is that these albums are not being reissued because of ongoing disagreements over money on the part of some of the musicians who played on these albums but are not current members of Hawkwind. I'd be happy to correct the details on my site, but would need official word and it seems fairly plain that nobody associated with the band wants or is able to clear this up. I think the inflated prices on E-Bay will be with us for some time to come. Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:41:52 +0100, John Rennie wrote: >Since these sell for ?25 at throw on eBay there must be a demand for them. I >heard a story that the master tapes were owned by an estranged ex manager >who wouldn't relinquish them. > >JR > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Colin J Allen >Sent: 21 October 2003 22:47 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Album out? > > >Just to reiterate a point: > >QS&C, WOTEOT and ASAM have NOT been rereleased and they are not scheduled to >be rereleased. If and when they are scheduled for rerelease, you will read >about it on Mission Control. > >Colin From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Oct 23 02:41:55 2003 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:41:55 +0100 Subject: Exeter Message-ID: Yes to going, no to pub suggestions - long time since I've been in Exeter! Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 11:51 PM Subject: HW: Exeter > So who's going to this? > Any suggestions for a pub meet beforehand? > > Nick > > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Oct 23 12:16:39 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:16:39 +0000 Subject: SLOTERDIJK and/or OEBS seeking U.S. dates for January 2004 Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK and/or The One Eyed Bishops are seeking a few U.S. dates during January 2004. If these bands have not come to your town and you think you can help book them, please contact us. The northeastern and mid atlantic regions of the country would be best, as we could probably do a short road trip and cover some ground that way. A one or two off gig further away might be possible with the right support and financial garauntees. Hope to see you on the road!!! Also if your venue is in New Jersey or Easter Pennsylvania, it is possible to book the band(s) between now and January. E-mail for availibility. Peace...Mike Burro ( Sloterdijk) web resources for these two bands: SLOTERDIJK: http://www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://aural-innovations.com/issues/ss/.html ( see column for list of Sloterdijk reviews and interview) http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/index2.html ( search index for either band name) http://www.citypaper.net/articles/121400/mus.space.shtml ( Philadelphia City Paper article) http://www.godreah.com ( Godreah Records UK: see 'Daze of the Underground' Hawkwind tribute cd ) The One Eyed Bishops: http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com ( Official band website) http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/entertainment/nightlife/scout2.shtml ( recent press article) http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/entertainment/nightlife/bandarchive/bishops.shtml ( press article) http://www.struzzin.com/videos/arcstruzzinspotlight120302.html ( radio interview 12/03/02) http://www.mercurymoon.co.uk/rfm/images-hawk-camp-2002.html ( Real Festival Music video 7/02) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/gigs/ HawkFest/pages/DevonFest_oeb.htm (Hawkfest 2002) http://www.voiceprint.co.uk ( see Hawkfest 2002 cd set under Hawkwind) http://www.mp3.com/The_OEBs ( mp3 mirror site w/ additional free files) Cheers! Mike Burro _________________________________________________________________ See when your friends are online with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 24 11:02:02 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:02:02 +0100 Subject: 25 Years On Message-ID: IIRC this week it's 25 years on from the release of 25 Years On. FoFP From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Oct 24 13:58:45 2003 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:58:45 +0100 Subject: HW:Another HW Book? Message-ID: We were talking about Hawkwind biographies, and whether the one I am working on should or shouldn't be self-published. Eric thought >Really, why is it that "indie" bands are considered gutsy and >enterprising, but "self-published" authors merely desperate? >Let's hear it for independent book publishing! Whilst Arin noted: :> IMHO, self-published authors tend to suffer fairly highly from what I call :> "lack of editing" ;-) Well, I have a contract in my inbox that not only satisfies Eric's passion for "independence" but resolves Arin's concerns about authors publishing their own work. Should be able to confirm/reveal all in the coming days. Watch this Space! Ian From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Oct 24 17:19:39 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:19:39 -0400 Subject: OT: Orgasmatron Puts Tech in Sex Message-ID: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,60943,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_4 From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Fri Oct 24 19:49:12 2003 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:49:12 -0400 Subject: HW:Another HW Book? In-Reply-To: <006a01c39a58$782cb020$fa23fea9@r1e1j2> Message-ID: Well, with all due respect to parties opinions, do what the f*&k you want to do. If it is self published, so be it. If it is "properly" edited, so be it. Not being able to properly write a coherent paragraph myself without a few rewrites, I'm a fan of all writing. Anyone who can even finish a book has a leg up on 99.99% of the population. At 06:58 PM 10/24/03 +0100, you wrote: >We were talking about Hawkwind biographies, and whether the one I am working >on should or shouldn't be self-published. > >Eric thought > >Really, why is it that "indie" bands are considered gutsy and > >enterprising, but "self-published" authors merely desperate? > > >Let's hear it for independent book publishing! > >Whilst Arin noted: > >:> IMHO, self-published authors tend to suffer fairly highly from what I >call >:> "lack of editing" ;-) > >Well, I have a contract in my inbox that not only satisfies Eric's passion >for "independence" but resolves Arin's concerns about authors publishing >their own work. > >Should be able to confirm/reveal all in the coming days. Watch this Space! > >Ian From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Oct 24 20:32:29 2003 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 20:32:29 EDT Subject: The Real Description of Hawkwind Message-ID: Hey-a: Playing Electric Tepee on my Real One Player, and in the 'Album Information' section it says this: "Sci-fi space-metal kings Hawkwind take intergalactic journeys through the sacred rite of guitars, synthesizer, drums and LSD." Dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it! : ) Joe From HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM Sat Oct 25 05:46:12 2003 From: HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM (HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:46:12 EDT Subject: US Space rock Message-ID: Haven't got any cool plans for Halloween weekend?? Are you sitting around the house waiting for the next Hawkwind or Ozrics tour??Check out some US spacerock bands in Philadelphia, PA on November 1.? Bands go on at 6pm!? Bands performing are:? Scattered Planets, Church of Hed, The Crime, Mikronesia, Mutation Vector. Location:? The Rotunda, 4012 Walnut St, Philadelphia, PA.Note the early start time and note that it's FREE! Go to to these websites for more info: http://scatteredplanets.com www.churchofhed.com C-Yaaaaaaaaaa Dave I I /\\ /I /\ /--l--I\ I I---\ I-- I----\ I------I /----\\ /\ / I/ \ /\ / I I \ I I I I- I I I I/ \\/ \/ I \ \/ \/ --I--I \I I__/ I_ I__/ From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sat Oct 25 04:53:50 2003 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 10:53:50 +0200 Subject: HW:Another HW Book? Message-ID: Sorry all, Simply,I will buy the book and make my opinion afterwards !?;!,? greetings filip ----- Original Message ----- From: "dhuggins" To: Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 1:49 AM Subject: Re: HW:Another HW Book? > Well, with all due respect to parties opinions, do what the f*&k you want > to do. If it is self published, so be it. If it is "properly" edited, so > be it. Not being able to properly write a coherent paragraph myself > without a few rewrites, I'm a fan of all writing. Anyone who can even > finish a book has a leg up on 99.99% of the population. > > At 06:58 PM 10/24/03 +0100, you wrote: > >We were talking about Hawkwind biographies, and whether the one I am working > >on should or shouldn't be self-published. > > > >Eric thought > > >Really, why is it that "indie" bands are considered gutsy and > > >enterprising, but "self-published" authors merely desperate? > > > > >Let's hear it for independent book publishing! > > > >Whilst Arin noted: > > > >:> IMHO, self-published authors tend to suffer fairly highly from what I > >call > >:> "lack of editing" ;-) > > > >Well, I have a contract in my inbox that not only satisfies Eric's passion > >for "independence" but resolves Arin's concerns about authors publishing > >their own work. > > > >Should be able to confirm/reveal all in the coming days. Watch this Space! > > > >Ian > > From buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Oct 26 11:24:04 2003 From: buzzardo7777 at HOTMAIL.COM (Rus Hall) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:24:04 -0500 Subject: BOC: Setlist Message-ID: Place: Tuxedo Junction Location: Danbury, CT Playlist: Buck's Boogie E.T.I. Dance on Stilts Burning for You Harvester of Eyes Shooting Shark ME 262 Cities on Flame Last Days of May (Awesome, as usual) Godzilla (Don?t Fear the) Reaper *Black Blade Interesting choice of starting song. New Intro music - no more Blade Runner Before you criticize someone, first walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do criticize them, you are a mile away, and they have no shoes. _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Oct 26 11:50:15 2003 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:50:15 -0000 Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: Arrive at the venue around six-ish for me & Stu to hook up with Alan Linsley & Nick Lee and then off to Pizza Express for some food & chat pre-gig. I'm reminded yet again what a small world it is when it turns out Nick and myself know quite a few of the same crowd of late 80s, early 90s Doctor Who fandom, and indeed both of us used to frequent the Fitzroy Tavern in London on the first Thursday of each month when it was almost taken over by Who fans.... Back at the venue the sold out boards are up, though of course it is a very small venue (450 standing?) and its pretty darn busy. Get to say "hello" to Julie and have a quick chat, and spot Jill from a distance (but just like Bristol in May don't actually manage to get to say Hi) but other than that its sparse on list members it seems. In the packed concert hall, Hawkwind are the Dave Brock trio plus the two Keiths. Light show is fantastic, huge backdrop for projecting against (very nice sequence that has something in common with the late Pertwee/Tom Baker Dr Who opening titles). Lots of psychedelic colours but not much of the alien planetscapes and star systems this time around. Set List, IIRC and in no order: Arrival in Utopia Master of the Universe Angela Android The Right Stuff Green Finned Demon Jam sequence with the Keiths & Dave but minus Alan & Richard (In the Trees?) The Watcher Wings Brainbox Pollution Hurry on Sundown Assault & Battery Golden Void Where Are they Now? Spirit of the Age Assassins of Allah Suitably for the hot and sweaty environment, Hawkwind are in power mode - thundering through the set with Alan & Richard very heavy in the mix (Richard particularly seemed to be putting everything in and working overtime - a terrific performance). Sound was very good, I thought, and served Keith K particularly well - though I struggled to figure where I was hearing Keith B and where it was Dave. I thought the style of the set was really effective for the venue, though I missed the ebb and flow of the Spring dates and felt Simon was a bit missed. However, Wings was the only number that I thought didn't really work - but then I didn't think it worked as a Bedouin number either and the style its played in by HW is now much more akin to Bedouin than to Space Bandits era HW. Yeah, good stuff indeed. Really friendly crowd - though the management were very keen to evict people after last orders. The most intimate HW gig I've seen and I enjoyed for that and for the passion the guys on stage seemed to have for it on the night. Oh, if this is to be a regular line-up, the Keiths need to grow their hair. ;-) Ian From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sun Oct 26 12:11:43 2003 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:11:43 -0500 Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October In-Reply-To: <002101c39be1$3b692800$fa23fea9@r1e1j2> Message-ID: Wow, excellent gig report. Us on the other side of the pond are jealous but quite appreciative of seeing it through other's eyes. Excuse my towering ignorance, but who is Keith B.? Dave At 04:50 PM 10/26/03 +0000, you wrote: >Arrive at the venue around six-ish for me & Stu to hook up with Alan >Linsley & Nick Lee and then off to Pizza Express for some food & chat >pre-gig. I'm reminded yet again what a small world it is when it turns out >Nick and myself know quite a few of the same crowd of late 80s, early 90s >Doctor Who fandom, and indeed both of us used to frequent the Fitzroy >Tavern in London on the first Thursday of each month when it was almost >taken over by Who fans.... > >Back at the venue the sold out boards are up, though of course it is a >very small venue (450 standing?) and its pretty darn busy. Get to say >"hello" to Julie and have a quick chat, and spot Jill from a distance (but >just like Bristol in May don't actually manage to get to say Hi) but other >than that its sparse on list members it seems. > >In the packed concert hall, Hawkwind are the Dave Brock trio plus the two >Keiths. Light show is fantastic, huge backdrop for projecting against >(very nice sequence that has something in common with the late Pertwee/Tom >Baker Dr Who opening titles). Lots of psychedelic colours but not much of >the alien planetscapes and star systems this time around. > >Set List, IIRC and in no order: > >Arrival in Utopia >Master of the Universe >Angela Android >The Right Stuff >Green Finned Demon >Jam sequence with the Keiths & Dave but minus Alan & Richard (In the Trees?) >The Watcher >Wings >Brainbox Pollution >Hurry on Sundown >Assault & Battery >Golden Void >Where Are they Now? >Spirit of the Age >Assassins of Allah > >Suitably for the hot and sweaty environment, Hawkwind are in power mode - >thundering through the set with Alan & Richard very heavy in the mix >(Richard particularly seemed to be putting everything in and working >overtime - a terrific performance). Sound was very good, I thought, and >served Keith K particularly well - though I struggled to figure where I >was hearing Keith B and where it was Dave. > >I thought the style of the set was really effective for the venue, though >I missed the ebb and flow of the Spring dates and felt Simon was a bit >missed. However, Wings was the only number that I thought didn't really >work - but then I didn't think it worked as a Bedouin number either and >the style its played in by HW is now much more akin to Bedouin than to >Space Bandits era HW. > >Yeah, good stuff indeed. Really friendly crowd - though the management >were very keen to evict people after last orders. The most intimate HW gig >I've seen and I enjoyed for that and for the passion the guys on stage >seemed to have for it on the night. > >Oh, if this is to be a regular line-up, the Keiths need to grow their >hair. ;-) > >Ian From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Sun Oct 26 12:21:11 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:21:11 -0600 Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20031026120949.0403ec70@mail.hypernova.net> Message-ID: Keef Barton :-) Rich -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of dhuggins Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Exeter 25th October Wow, excellent gig report. Us on the other side of the pond are jealous but quite appreciative of seeing it through other's eyes. Excuse my towering ignorance, but who is Keith B.? Dave At 04:50 PM 10/26/03 +0000, you wrote: >Arrive at the venue around six-ish for me & Stu to hook up with Alan >Linsley & Nick Lee and then off to Pizza Express for some food & chat >pre-gig. I'm reminded yet again what a small world it is when it turns out >Nick and myself know quite a few of the same crowd of late 80s, early 90s >Doctor Who fandom, and indeed both of us used to frequent the Fitzroy >Tavern in London on the first Thursday of each month when it was almost >taken over by Who fans.... > >Back at the venue the sold out boards are up, though of course it is a >very small venue (450 standing?) and its pretty darn busy. Get to say >"hello" to Julie and have a quick chat, and spot Jill from a distance (but >just like Bristol in May don't actually manage to get to say Hi) but other >than that its sparse on list members it seems. > >In the packed concert hall, Hawkwind are the Dave Brock trio plus the two >Keiths. Light show is fantastic, huge backdrop for projecting against >(very nice sequence that has something in common with the late Pertwee/Tom >Baker Dr Who opening titles). Lots of psychedelic colours but not much of >the alien planetscapes and star systems this time around. > >Set List, IIRC and in no order: > >Arrival in Utopia >Master of the Universe >Angela Android >The Right Stuff >Green Finned Demon >Jam sequence with the Keiths & Dave but minus Alan & Richard (In the Trees?) >The Watcher >Wings >Brainbox Pollution >Hurry on Sundown >Assault & Battery >Golden Void >Where Are they Now? >Spirit of the Age >Assassins of Allah > >Suitably for the hot and sweaty environment, Hawkwind are in power mode - >thundering through the set with Alan & Richard very heavy in the mix >(Richard particularly seemed to be putting everything in and working >overtime - a terrific performance). Sound was very good, I thought, and >served Keith K particularly well - though I struggled to figure where I >was hearing Keith B and where it was Dave. > >I thought the style of the set was really effective for the venue, though >I missed the ebb and flow of the Spring dates and felt Simon was a bit >missed. However, Wings was the only number that I thought didn't really >work - but then I didn't think it worked as a Bedouin number either and >the style its played in by HW is now much more akin to Bedouin than to >Space Bandits era HW. > >Yeah, good stuff indeed. Really friendly crowd - though the management >were very keen to evict people after last orders. The most intimate HW gig >I've seen and I enjoyed for that and for the passion the guys on stage >seemed to have for it on the night. > >Oh, if this is to be a regular line-up, the Keiths need to grow their >hair. ;-) > >Ian From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Oct 26 13:49:09 2003 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (EliPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:49:09 EST Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: >From another American stuck on the wrong end of the big fish bowl....Thanks for the gig report. It's always great to read about the shows right after they've happened. At least we can get a sense of what's going on, and the constant evolutions in the band. Sounds like a great gig in Exeter. Thanks. Eli From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Oct 26 14:56:27 2003 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:56:27 -0500 Subject: Off: Damo Suzuki's Network Message-ID: Hi, I saw Damo Suzuki's Network on Friday night at the Borderline in London. Both times that I have seen him, with totally different musicians, he has been absolutely superb. It's incredible to watch the musicians bounce off each other while improvising to create unique peaks in the music. At one stage the guitarist started playing a really off-the-wall sounding riff. Mike Howlett on bass seemed to struggle to get into it for a minute, but eventually found his feet and pulled off an absolutely blindingly intense tune. Apparently Damo doesn't record in the studio anymore. Everything is based around creating a unique live atmosphere through improvisation with hand-picked musicians. And it works. Everyone danced and Damo looked happy as Larry at the end. Alastair. From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Oct 26 16:29:44 2003 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:29:44 -0500 Subject: BOC:vote now and often!! Message-ID: Still working at getting BOC on the list...vote now and often!! - World's Best Band poll update! The Heep is now in #13 with 875 votes! Nirvana and Kiss are the next ones to be beaten! Here's the link to cast your vote: http://fredag.dagbladet.no/fredag/2003/07/25/374214.html From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Oct 26 16:32:48 2003 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:32:48 -0500 Subject: BOC: Setlist Message-ID: Yeah, they opened with that in Orlando last month...thought it was a strange choice,but sure got things kicked off in high gear! tim 8>)... Rus Hall wrote: > > Place: Tuxedo Junction > Location: Danbury, CT > > Playlist: > Buck's Boogie > > Interesting choice of starting song. > > > Before you criticize someone, first walk a mile in their shoes. That way > when you do criticize them, you are a mile away, and they have no shoes. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded > its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Oct 26 16:45:41 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:45:41 -0000 Subject: Exeter 25th October In-Reply-To: <002101c39be1$3b692800$fa23fea9@r1e1j2> Message-ID: Just to add my two pennyworth... Venue was packed, the atmosphere very good on and off stage. Small venue indeed but with a lovely high ceiling and a great screen, big shame that Neil & Marie's PC chose this night for its hard drive to die. Luckily the promoters had some equipment of their own to add to Chaos' remaining equipment and the light show did look pretty good but was, obviously, lacking in the 'song-themed' images. The set was fast-paced and tight, no surprises song-wise but they all played a blinder. The trio making for a solid nucleus with lovely spiralling synths from Keith and some great e-bow guitar from Keef (when he could be heard). The combinations of Dave's soloing and Keef's e-bow worked particularly well on a few tracks. Highlights were MotU, Watcher, Brainbox Pollution, Green Finned Demon Assault... Where Are They Now and Spirit of the Age. Hello to Ian, Stuart, Alan, Jill (& relatives, hope they enjoyed it!), Neil & Marie, Julie & Merrick and everyone else who I managed to chat with. Looking forward to the Astoria now! Nick And no, Trev wasn't coming... -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Ian Abrahams Sent: 26 October 2003 16:50 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October Arrive at the venue around six-ish for me & Stu to hook up with Alan Linsley & Nick Lee and then off to Pizza Express for some food & chat pre-gig. I'm reminded yet again what a small world it is when it turns out Nick and myself know quite a few of the same crowd of late 80s, early 90s Doctor Who fandom, and indeed both of us used to frequent the Fitzroy Tavern in London on the first Thursday of each month when it was almost taken over by Who fans.... Back at the venue the sold out boards are up, though of course it is a very small venue (450 standing?) and its pretty darn busy. Get to say "hello" to Julie and have a quick chat, and spot Jill from a distance (but just like Bristol in May don't actually manage to get to say Hi) but other than that its sparse on list members it seems. In the packed concert hall, Hawkwind are the Dave Brock trio plus the two Keiths. Light show is fantastic, huge backdrop for projecting against (very nice sequence that has something in common with the late Pertwee/Tom Baker Dr Who opening titles). Lots of psychedelic colours but not much of the alien planetscapes and star systems this time around. Set List, IIRC and in no order: Arrival in Utopia Master of the Universe Angela Android The Right Stuff Green Finned Demon Jam sequence with the Keiths & Dave but minus Alan & Richard (In the Trees?) The Watcher Wings Brainbox Pollution Hurry on Sundown Assault & Battery Golden Void Where Are they Now? Spirit of the Age Assassins of Allah Suitably for the hot and sweaty environment, Hawkwind are in power mode - thundering through the set with Alan & Richard very heavy in the mix (Richard particularly seemed to be putting everything in and working overtime - a terrific performance). Sound was very good, I thought, and served Keith K particularly well - though I struggled to figure where I was hearing Keith B and where it was Dave. I thought the style of the set was really effective for the venue, though I missed the ebb and flow of the Spring dates and felt Simon was a bit missed. However, Wings was the only number that I thought didn't really work - but then I didn't think it worked as a Bedouin number either and the style its played in by HW is now much more akin to Bedouin than to Space Bandits era HW. Yeah, good stuff indeed. Really friendly crowd - though the management were very keen to evict people after last orders. The most intimate HW gig I've seen and I enjoyed for that and for the passion the guys on stage seemed to have for it on the night. Oh, if this is to be a regular line-up, the Keiths need to grow their hair. ;-) Ian From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Oct 27 16:52:21 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:52:21 -0500 Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:50:15 -0000, Ian Abrahams wrote: >Oh, if this is to be a regular line-up, the Keiths need to grow their >hair. ;-) Yeah, but did mr. Kniveton have THE HAT? That more than makes up for the hair to me (just as did Nik's spikey-alien outfit or sharkfin mowhawk, Ron's robot costume or blue - or green - or whatever - skin, Arthur's headgear, Bob's costumes/personas, Simon's sparkly tights, etc.). ;^) Seriously, thanks for the great write-up! -Doug ( ... farmer) jasret at mindspring.com From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Oct 27 16:58:32 2003 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:58:32 EST Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: Great review...made me think i was there....was I? Anyone see me? Damn blackouts! B From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Oct 28 05:09:05 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:09:05 +0000 Subject: BRAIN: Nice timing Message-ID: Dear All (and Al), so, I'm trying to scrape enough money together to pay the rent next month without borrowing, and last night my girlfriend rang to say she was in hospital and they were going to do a very minor operation on her, though not so minor as not to need a general anaesthetic, and I haven't yet heard she's OK, and a variety of other things are being quite difficult. I didn't *tell* Al any of this because when I sent the money orders across the Atlantic it wasn't the case; but nonetheless, exactly this morning my Cellsum order arrives in a vinyl-size box, and this turns out to be because it's got a bonus poster in it. So Al & Co., not only are you guys lovely in the first place, I'm also awed by the extent of your conspiracy with the US and UK postal services: this couldn't have come at a time when I more needed a nice surprise. Thanks, thanks quite a lot! Yours, Jon n/p: Motorhead -_We Are Motorhead_ (though not for long now... ) -- Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk/ejarr01 at students.bbk.ac.uk "As much as the vision of the blind man improves with the rising sun, So too does the intelligence of the fool after good advice." (Bishop Theodulf of Orleans, late-eight/early-ninth century) From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 28 07:39:54 2003 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:39:54 +0000 Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: Yeah! I was there too and it was the Hawks on top form!! The venue was cool and totally rammed with people intent on a good time. There was a great 2 piece band in the bar before Hawkwind came on and they were so good! Any names?? Hawkwind came on at 10' Utopia started the ball rolling and it was take off!! I nearly collapsed at one point the show was that intense. Sorry to the guy in the wheelchair- I really didn't see you till it was too late! that hasn't happened for years so I know it was an exceptional gig> I needed to make up for missing the Dam gig after the festi ! We came down from London and I want to move to Exeter! Lovely place! I not knockng Aurther B. but it was good to see Dave and the gang singing the songs!! Thanks Hawkwind!! >From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: Exeter 25th October >Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:49:09 EST > >>From another American stuck on the wrong end of the big fish bowl....Thanks >for the gig report. It's always great to read about the shows right after >they've happened. At least we can get a sense of what's going on, and the >constant >evolutions in the band. Sounds like a great gig in Exeter. Thanks. Eli _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 28 11:41:06 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:41:06 -0500 Subject: OFF: Damo Suzuki, Acid Mothers Gong Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:56:27 -0500, Alastair wrote: >Hi, >I saw Damo Suzuki's Network on Friday night at the Borderline in London. >Both times that I have seen him, with totally different musicians, he has >been absolutely superb. It's incredible to watch the musicians bounce off >each other while improvising to create unique peaks in the music. At one >stage the guitarist started playing a really off-the-wall sounding riff. >Mike Howlett on bass seemed to struggle to get into it for a minute, but >eventually found his feet and pulled off an absolutely blindingly intense >tune. Apparently Damo doesn't record in the studio anymore. Everything is >based around creating a unique live atmosphere through improvisation with >hand-picked musicians. And it works. Everyone danced and Damo looked happy >as Larry at the end. Thanks for that Ali- I saw Damo and co. a few days before this, when they played at the Royal Festival Hall on the same bill as the Incredible String Band and Acid Mothers Gong (the latter being an amalgam of Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth, Didier Malherbe, and the U of E's Josh Pollock with the fabulous furry AMT gang). The ISB opened up and at the risk of upsetting any fans out there, I thought they were dreadful. All I'd previously heard was "The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter", which I remember quite liking for its elliptical strangeness, but although the current band apparently plays "only the early stuff", it didn't sound anything like that. They're good musicians, no doubt about that, but most of the material was teeth-grindingly twee, hippy- dippy sing-song stuff, and one song about having a "paintbox in your mind" might as well have been by Neil of the Young Ones, so close was it to pastiche. I don't know how "authentic" this ISB line-up is, in terms of original members- I know Mike Heron is an original member but not sure about any of the others, and Robin Williamson was conspicuous by his absence. Next up- Damo and the Switch Doctors, featuring Mike Howlett on bass, a keyboard player whose name I forget, Steve Cassidy (of Here and Now) on drums, and a guitarist called Steve Higgins (who looked to me like the guitarist (name unknown to me) who played with Here and Now in the late 80s when Steffe wasn't around, but whether it's actually the same guy, I don't know). Damo is much shorter than I'd imagined. He still has an impressive vocal range and can switch from a croon to a shriek in short order. His lyrics are almost always indecipherable, but it probably doesn't matter, as his voice is more like a lead instrument for the improvisations than anything else. Anyway I thought the band got better as they went on- Mike Howlett is a wonderful bassist of course, but the guitarist and (especially) the drummer really could have let rip more. The overall sound was, as someone else commented, "Can-lite". I enjoyed it, but... well, the drumming was actually quite weak, which can be a real problem for this kind of spacey jamming- the incredible skill of Jaki Liebezeit was such a key part of the Can sound. And the guitarist kept playing these choppy New Wave- style rhythm parts when he could have been shooting for the stars. Still, on form and at a more intimate venue (like the one where Ali saw them maybe), this band could probably be quite special. And so to the headliners- Acid Mothers Gong, who were sensationally good. No songs as such, just a rising and falling maelstrom of guitar'n'electronics held together by a quite brilliant rhythm section, who didn't look like the regular AMT guys to me- whoever the drummer was, he's one of the best I've ever seen. They played maybe 5 pieces in their allotted 90 minutes and the only thing I recognised was AMT's "Baby Pink Lemonade", although this was a very short version by Acid Mothers standards, probably under 10 minutes. And there was a tiny snippet of Gong's "Thought for Naught" somewhere in there too. Otherwise no Gong material at all and clearly much of what we were hearing was totally spontaneous. The sound: mix all your favourite swooshes, howls, twitters, etc, with massive sheets of pure noise, add in a frantically soloing virtuoso guitarist (Kawabata Makoto) and the hypnotic drone of Daevid's glissando guitar, and underpin with the aforementioned rhythm section. Didier added some nice Eastern-inflected reeds and Gilli did her space whisper thing and one spoken-word piece. Josh Pollock seemed at a loss as to how to contribute, rarely doing anything with his guitar and instead spending much of the gig adding to the "strange noises" ensemble by means of vocalisations through a megaphone. Considering his incendiary playing with the U of E, this was a bit of waste, but playing alongside Makoto must be daunting, and the megaphone sounds were actually quite effective at times. The sheer number of musicians on stage meant that the depth and complexity of the sound was consistently interesting- despite the free-form nature of the performance, things never drifted too much, and it was certainly never boring. The overall sound really was "Acid Mothers Gong"- imagine your favourite sinuous Radio Gnome-era jam crossed with the unrelenting psychedelic frenzy of a typical AMT performance- truly the best of both worlds I thought- Daevid's gliss guitar and chanted vocals giving the AMT sound that extra dimension. This was intense, challenging stuff and not everyone enjoyed it- judging from comments overheard in the bar afterwards, some of the older Gong freaks were miffed and bemused by the lack of recognisable songs, and indeed a number of people walked out. Personally I thought it was great to see Daevid doing something new and exciting, expecially something that worked so well. In interviews, he's expressed the view that the reformed Gong have been living off the old material for rather too long now, and it's a relief to see one old (over 70 I think?!) stager who's not afraid to try something new. Nick From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Oct 28 13:51:32 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:51:32 -0500 Subject: OT: Art Exhibit makes attendants feel they are "on drugs" Message-ID: Trippy Weather project: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_831844.html?menu=news.quirkies Now, they just need add some Hawkwind playing the background. ;) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Oct 28 14:59:06 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:59:06 -0500 Subject: OFF: co-author a short story with Michael Moorcock Message-ID: details here ... http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/sciencefiction/story/0,6000,1070569 ,00.html "Michael Moorcock has called the story "Crowning the Kitten". The story will unfold in weekly instalments over the next six weeks, but how it continues depends on you. Send us the next instalment (maximum 500 words) by 10am Thursday 30 October - the one we like best will be published on the site as the continuation of the story. " and the beginning of the story is here ... http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/sciencefiction/story/0,6000,1069185 ,00.html "Mrs Una Persson caught the tram from Wandsworth Common but at the Vauxhall Toll Bridge they were stopped by the worst jam of all. She would not have believed London still had so many inhabitants; most of them looked surprisingly healthy..." -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Oct 28 15:09:50 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:09:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: Damo Suzuki, Acid Mothers Gong Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:41:06 -0500, Nick Medford wrote: >And so to the headliners- Acid Mothers Gong, who were sensationally good. >No songs as such, just a rising and falling maelstrom of guitar 'n' >electronics held together by a quite brilliant rhythm section, who >didn't look like the regular AMT guys to me- whoever the drummer was, he's >one of the best I've ever seen. That would be Yoshida Tatsuya (from Ruins, and numerous other Japanese zeuhl/punk/prog/psych projects). The bassist would have been AMT regular Tsuyami Atsushi. Thanks for this review! Stephan From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 28 15:14:35 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:14:35 -0000 Subject: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: Thanks for the review Ian; we rather enjoyed it, even if I do now know far more about lifting and pushing flight cases than I ever wanted to! On the subject of Keith B, at times he plays rythym guitar alongside Dave but for much of the time he plays with an e-bow producing a sound halfway between a violin and a synth; once you know what you are listening for it is very obvious. Did anyone notice his vocals on Green Finned Demon? Cheers, Colin Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October Arrive at the venue around six-ish for me & Stu to hook up with Alan Linsley & Nick Lee and then off to Pizza Express for some food & chat pre-gig. I'm reminded yet again what a small world it is when it turns out Nick and myself know quite a few of the same crowd of late 80s, early 90s Doctor Who fandom, and indeed both of us used to frequent the Fitzroy Tavern in London on the first Thursday of each month when it was almost taken over by Who fans.... Back at the venue the sold out boards are up, though of course it is a very small venue (450 standing?) and its pretty darn busy. Get to say "hello" to Julie and have a quick chat, and spot Jill from a distance (but just like Bristol in May don't actually manage to get to say Hi) but other than that its sparse on list members it seems. In the packed concert hall, Hawkwind are the Dave Brock trio plus the two Keiths. Light show is fantastic, huge backdrop for projecting against (very nice sequence that has something in common with the late Pertwee/Tom Baker Dr Who opening titles). Lots of psychedelic colours but not much of the alien planetscapes and star systems this time around. Set List, IIRC and in no order: Arrival in Utopia Master of the Universe Angela Android The Right Stuff Green Finned Demon Jam sequence with the Keiths & Dave but minus Alan & Richard (In the Trees?) The Watcher Wings Brainbox Pollution Hurry on Sundown Assault & Battery Golden Void Where Are they Now? Spirit of the Age Assassins of Allah Suitably for the hot and sweaty environment, Hawkwind are in power mode - thundering through the set with Alan & Richard very heavy in the mix (Richard particularly seemed to be putting everything in and working overtime - a terrific performance). Sound was very good, I thought, and served Keith K particularly well - though I struggled to figure where I was hearing Keith B and where it was Dave. I thought the style of the set was really effective for the venue, though I missed the ebb and flow of the Spring dates and felt Simon was a bit missed. However, Wings was the only number that I thought didn't really work - but then I didn't think it worked as a Bedouin number either and the style its played in by HW is now much more akin to Bedouin than to Space Bandits era HW. Yeah, good stuff indeed. Really friendly crowd - though the management were very keen to evict people after last orders. The most intimate HW gig I've seen and I enjoyed for that and for the passion the guys on stage seemed to have for it on the night. Oh, if this is to be a regular line-up, the Keiths need to grow their hair. ;-) Ian From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 28 16:34:50 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:34:50 -0000 Subject: Exeter 25th October In-Reply-To: <003c01c39d90$89a74c80$883dfea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: I noticed Dave cajoling him to sing but wasn't so sure I could actually hear him! Cheers, Nick -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Colin J Allen Sent: 28 October 2003 20:15 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October Thanks for the review Ian; we rather enjoyed it, even if I do now know far more about lifting and pushing flight cases than I ever wanted to! On the subject of Keith B, at times he plays rythym guitar alongside Dave but for much of the time he plays with an e-bow producing a sound halfway between a violin and a synth; once you know what you are listening for it is very obvious. Did anyone notice his vocals on Green Finned Demon? Cheers, Colin Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: HW: Exeter 25th October Arrive at the venue around six-ish for me & Stu to hook up with Alan Linsley & Nick Lee and then off to Pizza Express for some food & chat pre-gig. I'm reminded yet again what a small world it is when it turns out Nick and myself know quite a few of the same crowd of late 80s, early 90s Doctor Who fandom, and indeed both of us used to frequent the Fitzroy Tavern in London on the first Thursday of each month when it was almost taken over by Who fans.... Back at the venue the sold out boards are up, though of course it is a very small venue (450 standing?) and its pretty darn busy. Get to say "hello" to Julie and have a quick chat, and spot Jill from a distance (but just like Bristol in May don't actually manage to get to say Hi) but other than that its sparse on list members it seems. In the packed concert hall, Hawkwind are the Dave Brock trio plus the two Keiths. Light show is fantastic, huge backdrop for projecting against (very nice sequence that has something in common with the late Pertwee/Tom Baker Dr Who opening titles). Lots of psychedelic colours but not much of the alien planetscapes and star systems this time around. Set List, IIRC and in no order: Arrival in Utopia Master of the Universe Angela Android The Right Stuff Green Finned Demon Jam sequence with the Keiths & Dave but minus Alan & Richard (In the Trees?) The Watcher Wings Brainbox Pollution Hurry on Sundown Assault & Battery Golden Void Where Are they Now? Spirit of the Age Assassins of Allah Suitably for the hot and sweaty environment, Hawkwind are in power mode - thundering through the set with Alan & Richard very heavy in the mix (Richard particularly seemed to be putting everything in and working overtime - a terrific performance). Sound was very good, I thought, and served Keith K particularly well - though I struggled to figure where I was hearing Keith B and where it was Dave. I thought the style of the set was really effective for the venue, though I missed the ebb and flow of the Spring dates and felt Simon was a bit missed. However, Wings was the only number that I thought didn't really work - but then I didn't think it worked as a Bedouin number either and the style its played in by HW is now much more akin to Bedouin than to Space Bandits era HW. Yeah, good stuff indeed. Really friendly crowd - though the management were very keen to evict people after last orders. The most intimate HW gig I've seen and I enjoyed for that and for the passion the guys on stage seemed to have for it on the night. Oh, if this is to be a regular line-up, the Keiths need to grow their hair. ;-) Ian From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 29 01:53:13 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:23:13 +1030 Subject: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: There ought to be a page at Mission Control just for the roadies and all those fine individuals who work so hard behind the scenes to make the gigs happen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:44 AM Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October > Thanks for the review Ian; we rather enjoyed it, even if I do now know far > more about lifting and pushing flight cases than I ever wanted to! From CWarburton at OAG.COM Wed Oct 29 07:32:52 2003 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (CWarburton at OAG.COM) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:32:52 -0000 Subject: OT: Art Exhibit makes attendants feel they are "on drugs" Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:51:32 -0500 Karen Kusic schrijft:- > Trippy Weather project: > http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_831844.html?menu=news.quirkies > > Now, they just need add some Hawkwind playing the background. ;) It is truly extraordinary - I took my daughter to the Tate Modern on Saturday, and we were both gob-smacked. As was everybody else - I've never seen so many people standing slack-jawed in amazement. It's like sunrise on the terminal beach (it occurs to me that it would be rather fun to gather a huge gang of people to go along with beach towels and swimming cozzies; except that it's a bit chilly in there), and extraordinarily quiet.. It really doesn't need any music playing - I suspect it may be quite interesting if one were..ermmm.. "pharmaceutically or herbally modified". There's also rather more to it than you can gather from the picture and description, but I'd rather leave that as a surprise for those who can get to Tate Modern between now and next March. Anything further I could say would be inadequate anyway. It has to be seen to be believed, and I urge everybody to go see it if they're in London - make the time... Perhaps the afternoon before or the morning after the Solstice party *G* More than 2p worth this time.... Cheers ChrisW ObCD: Wayne Kramer/Citizen Wayne From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 29 11:00:27 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:00:27 GMT Subject: OT: Art Exhibit makes attendants feel they are "on drugs" In-Reply-To: CWarburton@OAG.COM's message of Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:32:52 -0000 Message-ID: > It has to be seen to be believed, and I urge everybody to go see it if > they're in London - make the time... > Perhaps the afternoon before or the morning after the Solstice party *G* Yeah well, I'd be up for a trip out ater the xas party.... FoFP From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Oct 29 15:55:01 2003 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trev) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:55:01 -0000 Subject: Spacerock Supergroup Frenzy at the BGG - Prices Slashed! Message-ID: SPACEROCK SUPERGROUP FRENZY! The Video See what's left of the 60's Drug-Gutter. Adults, some with families and young children, openly taking drugs in public, gyrating, cavorting in abandoned delirium! There is frenzy, blatant flaunting of the rules of decency, lewd gesticulating and howling. This sad spectacle displays the remaining dregs of the reprehensible time of the "permissive society" for all to see. Thank God we now have the Criminal Justice Act to deal with such excuses for humanity - but where were the police??? See the outrageous "Alice Rhubarb", wearing womens clothing in stark defiance of the Holy Scriptures. See the "Fabulous Angie", leaping, posturing, her lithe subtle limbs clearly visible to the bawling throng. See the "Mighty Thunder Rider", Nik Turner, Ron Tree, "Judge Trev", the witch Jackie Windmill and co. playing the Devils music, casting glamours over the innocents. Caught by the ruthless camerawork of Bruce ,the Truth is here for all to see - The Naked Truth! Under no circumstances allow your children view this video without adult supervision, and let them learn what could happen if they follow the path of reprobation which these pitiable specimens of humanity have taken. Certificate PG Get it Here: http://www.mercurymoon.co.uk/rfm/videos.html See the review of the festival where it all happened: http://www.mercurymoon.co.uk/rfm/BGG-2003.html RFM - Real Festival Music http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk Festival Cd's, Reviews, Vids, Downloads, Forum, Healers, News From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Oct 29 17:22:49 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:22:49 -0500 Subject: OFF: Damo Suzuki, Acid Mothers Gong Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:09:50 -0500, Stephan Forstner wrote: >Yoshida Tatsuya (from Ruins, and numerous other Japanese >zeuhl/punk/prog/psych projects). Yes, you are right. Yoshida was the name by which he was introduced. Thanks for jogging my memory. So what do Ruins sound like? >The bassist would have been AMT regular >Tsuyami Atsushi. I guess it was him, but he looked different somehow. Maybe because AMT had abandoned their usual black outfits in favour of more garish garb, presumably as a nod to Gong. To be honest, the "wackiness" of some of the outfits and onstage antics was actually a bit cheesy at times- the only aspect of the gig I didn't enjoy. I forgot to mention that the Acid Mothers Gong performance was clearly being videotaped, so expect to see this released at some point. It would make an amazing live album. Nick From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Oct 29 17:42:34 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:42:34 -0000 Subject: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:53 AM Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October > There ought to be a page at Mission Control just for the roadies and all > those fine individuals who work so hard behind the scenes to make the gigs > happen. > Yeah - there definitely should. I must confess to a twinge of guilt sometimes when I leave a venue and look back at the stage - empty of people but piled high with equipment - knowing that some poor folks have still got to dismantle all that lot and pack it away before the evening is really over. Anyhow I finally introduced my sister and her family to a Hawkwind gig - Hawkwind People here are my relatives - Relatives this is Hawkwind. Thankfully it seemed to go ok - no Damascenian conversions sadly - the neices have been too brought up on mainstream I'm afraid but the eldest has learned how to get work at Glastonbury (thank you Merrick!) so her horizons might broaden a bit and everyone seemed to enjoy the experience. A strange mixture of a gig though - there was a DJ in the main hall right up until Hawkwind played, with a very trippy visual show but not much else by way of inspiration. The support band (who were.........?dbChaos) set up in a tiny cramped corner of a smallish bar space and the lead guy played (to my ear) some fairly decent guitar. But it was very very packed and everyone was standing on everyone else so there wasn't much room to hang around and socialise never mind relax and listen. Everyone managed to squeeze into the main hall - just -but there was no way I was ever going to see much of the stage so it was a question of watching the lights (which were flashy and dramatic but clearly not the Chaos Lightshow - it was a real shame about their computer failure) and listening to the sound - which was good and powerful without being excessively loud - very well balanced. I found it difficult to separate out the different guitars (but then I don't have the ear of experience) but thought that overall it had a nice depth and surroundsound feel to it and certainly everyone around me was having a wonderful time! I'm (selfishly) glad there wasn't much new material but I confess I was expecting more - in fact I was expecting a lot more! Where has it gone then?? Anyhow - hi to everyone I met - everyone I recognised and didn't know the name of, everyone I would have known the name of but didn't recognise and everyone for whom I managed to get both right. Ah dear - signs of senility......... jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Thu Oct 30 07:09:09 2003 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:09:09 -0500 Subject: HW: Complete 79 sound quality Message-ID: Sorry if this is an old subject, but I got the COMPLETE ?79 CD set last night and, at first listen, the sound quality seems much worse than the old single LIVE IN ?79 (initial thought is that there is a lot of tape mis-tracking and that the sound is not as clean). Must admit that the initial listen was done on a boom-box (but it is a high-quality boom-box, bi-amped speakers ?n all). I haven?t done an A-B comparison yet, but my recollection was that Li79 was one of the best sounding live recordings. Does anyone have any insight about this? Or are my ears just fulla crap? SYMBOL 74 \f "Wingdings" \s 10 Regards, Craig Shipley mr_ship at bellsouth.net (personal) cshipley at veritas.com (work) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Oct 30 08:54:38 2003 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:54:38 +0000 Subject: HW: Complete 79 sound quality In-Reply-To: <002901c39ede$9fb5dc90$6400a8c0@globemaster> Message-ID: Hi Craig, The complete 79 recording was a "collectors item", Ie expect it to be rough & ready. Must admit that it was a disapointment to me when I first heard it, and now sits gathering dust. That said, it seems the best complete document from that tour ( the first that I saw) and from that point it is worth it alone to me. 79 is still a cracking LP and is played in southville towers. regards Iain But from a Craig Shipley wrote: > Sorry if this is an old subject, but I got the COMPLETE CD set last night > and, at first listen, the sound quality seems much worse than the old > single > LIVE IN (initial thought is that there is a lot of tape mis-tracking and > that the sound is not as clean). Must admit that the initial listen > was done on > a boom-box (but it is a high-quality boom-box, bi-amped speakers all). I > haven done an A-B comparison yet, but my recollection was that Li79 > was one of > the best sounding live recordings. Does anyone have any insight about > this? Or > are my ears just fulla crap? SYMBOL 74 \f "Wingdings" \s 10 > > Regards, > > Craig Shipley > mr_ship at bellsouth.net (personal) > cshipley at veritas.com (work) > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 > > From mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET Thu Oct 30 09:19:14 2003 From: mr_ship at BELLSOUTH.NET (Craig Shipley) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:19:14 -0500 Subject: HW: Complete 79 sound quality In-Reply-To: <3FA1181E.6000403@aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the clarification, Ian. Well, that's a shame and a disappointment (about the quality), but at least I got it at a low price and it is still a damn fine performance. Ship -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Iain Ferguson Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:55 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Complete 79 sound quality Hi Craig, The complete 79 recording was a "collectors item", Ie expect it to be rough & ready. Must admit that it was a disapointment to me when I first heard it, and now sits gathering dust. That said, it seems the best complete document from that tour ( the first that I saw) and from that point it is worth it alone to me. 79 is still a cracking LP and is played in southville towers. regards Iain But from a Craig Shipley wrote: > Sorry if this is an old subject, but I got the COMPLETE CD set last night > and, at first listen, the sound quality seems much worse than the old > single > LIVE IN (initial thought is that there is a lot of tape mis-tracking and > that the sound is not as clean). Must admit that the initial listen > was done on > a boom-box (but it is a high-quality boom-box, bi-amped speakers all). I > haven done an A-B comparison yet, but my recollection was that Li79 > was one of > the best sounding live recordings. Does anyone have any insight about > this? Or > are my ears just fulla crap? SYMBOL 74 \f "Wingdings" \s 10 > > Regards, > > Craig Shipley > mr_ship at bellsouth.net (personal) > cshipley at veritas.com (work) > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 From nexus at PANIX.COM Thu Oct 30 10:49:46 2003 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:49:46 -0500 Subject: Spacerock Supergroup Frenzy at the BGG - Prices Slashed! In-Reply-To: from "trev" at Oct 29, 2003 08:55:01 PM Message-ID: > SPACEROCK SUPERGROUP FRENZY! The Video I took a look at the website, and I can't find if these tapes are available in a format I could watch, what with living in the USofA and all. Do they come in NTSC(I think it is) or only PAL? JB From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Oct 30 12:21:17 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:21:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: Damo Suzuki, Acid Mothers Gong Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:22:49 -0500, Nick Medford wrote: > >So what do Ruins sound like? Basically, like Magma on speed! Look up http://www.aquariusrecords.org and do a search for Artist=Ruins and you'll find a list of much of their currently in-print stuff, along with enough samples to give you a good idea of their sound. >I forgot to mention that the Acid Mothers Gong performance was clearly >being videotaped, so expect to see this released at some point. It would >make an amazing live album. Hope they do release it as an audio disc. Stephan From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Oct 30 13:39:11 2003 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:39:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Complete 79 sound quality In-Reply-To: <002901c39ede$9fb5dc90$6400a8c0@globemaster> Message-ID: Hi Craig For your info The COMPLETE 79 double CD is from 01.12.79 (London Hammersmith) except the 1st track (Shot Down In the Night) which is from 08.12.79 (from the official Live 79 CD) cheers Bernhard At 07:09 30.10.2003 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry if this is an old subject, but I got the COMPLETE ?79 CD set last night >and, at first listen, the sound quality seems much worse than the old single >LIVE IN ?79 (initial thought is that there is a lot of tape mis-tracking and >that the sound is not as clean). Must admit that the initial listen was done on >a boom-box (but it is a high-quality boom-box, bi-amped speakers ?n all). I >haven?t done an A-B comparison yet, but my recollection was that Li79 was one of >the best sounding live recordings. Does anyone have any insight about this? Or >are my ears just fulla crap? SYMBOL 74 \f "Wingdings" \s 10 > >Regards, > >Craig Shipley >mr_ship at bellsouth.net (personal) >cshipley at veritas.com (work) > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 > > From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Oct 30 13:56:31 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:56:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Complete 79 sound quality Message-ID: does anyone know if live 79 had a lot of overdubbing done to it in the studio or is it completely live? cheers colm > Hi Craig, > > The complete 79 recording was a "collectors item", Ie expect it to be > rough & ready. Must admit that it was a disapointment to me when I first > heard it, and now sits gathering dust. > > That said, it seems the best complete document from that tour ( the > first that I saw) and from that point it is worth it alone to me. > > 79 is still a cracking LP and is played in southville towers. > > regards > Iain > > But from a > > Craig Shipley wrote: > > > Sorry if this is an old subject, but I got the COMPLETE CD set last night > > and, at first listen, the sound quality seems much worse than the old > > single > > LIVE IN (initial thought is that there is a lot of tape mis-tracking and > > that the sound is not as clean). Must admit that the initial listen > > was done on > > a boom-box (but it is a high-quality boom-box, bi-amped speakers all). I > > haven done an A-B comparison yet, but my recollection was that Li79 > > was one of > > the best sounding live recordings. Does anyone have any insight about > > this? Or > > are my ears just fulla crap? SYMBOL 74 \f "Wingdings" \s 10 > > > > Regards, > > > > Craig Shipley > > mr_ship at bellsouth.net (personal) > > cshipley at veritas.com (work) > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 > > > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Oct 30 14:17:15 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:17:15 -0000 Subject: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: The new material is there, it is just not allowed out to play yet:). It was a bit of an odd gig; the promoters (Future Sound of Exeter) put on regular events at the Phoenix and try to get an eclectic (and full) line-up; I also thought that the guitarist in the bar band was very good, although I thought that Dbkaos was the guy in the hall before Hawkwind went on; the band in the bar were (I think) Sembalance with the Iconoclast. The food at the Phoenix was worthy of mention as was the lovely, lovely (and virtually unique) mixing desk; it was just such a pity that they kept such a careful eye on the latter after the gig:(. Now that I would not have minded lifting and pushing to the van! Colin Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Blackman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:53 AM > Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October > > > There ought to be a page at Mission Control just for the roadies and > all > > those fine individuals who work so hard behind the scenes to make the > gigs > > happen. > > > > Yeah - there definitely should. I must confess to a twinge of guilt > sometimes when I leave a venue and look back at the stage - empty of > people but piled high with equipment - knowing that some poor folks have > still got to dismantle all that lot and pack it away before the evening > is really over. > > Anyhow I finally introduced my sister and her family to a Hawkwind gig - > Hawkwind People here are my relatives - Relatives this is Hawkwind. > Thankfully it seemed to go ok - no Damascenian conversions sadly - the > neices have been too brought up on mainstream I'm afraid but the eldest > has learned how to get work at Glastonbury (thank you Merrick!) so her > horizons might broaden a bit and everyone seemed to enjoy the > experience. > > A strange mixture of a gig though - there was a DJ in the main hall > right up until Hawkwind played, with a very trippy visual show but not > much else by way of inspiration. The support band (who > were.........?dbChaos) set up in a tiny cramped corner of a smallish bar > space and the lead guy played (to my ear) some fairly decent guitar. > But it was very very packed and everyone was standing on everyone else > so there wasn't much room to hang around and socialise never mind relax > and listen. Everyone managed to squeeze into the main hall - > just -but there was no way I was ever going to see much of the stage so > it was a question of watching the lights (which were flashy and dramatic > but clearly not the Chaos Lightshow - it was a real shame about their > computer failure) and listening to the sound - which was good and > powerful without being excessively loud - very well balanced. I found > it difficult to separate out the different guitars (but then I don't > have the ear of experience) but thought that overall it had a nice > depth and surroundsound feel to it and certainly everyone around me was > having a wonderful time! > > I'm (selfishly) glad there wasn't much new material but I confess I was > expecting more - in fact I was expecting a lot more! Where has it > gone then?? > > Anyhow - hi to everyone I met - everyone I recognised and didn't know > the name of, everyone I would have known the name of but didn't > recognise and everyone for whom I managed to get both right. > > Ah dear - signs of senility......... > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Oct 30 14:39:10 2003 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:39:10 -0500 Subject: BOC:vote!! Message-ID: Still working at it...vote now & often to get BOC into the top 100 !!!(at least) - Latest World's Best Band poll update! The Heep is now in #11 with 979 votes! Now it is time to beat The Beatles and the 1,000 votes mark!! Here's the link to cast your vote: http://fredag.dagbladet.no/fredag/2003/07/25/374214.html From info at MACDIGITAL-UK.COM Thu Oct 30 20:25:54 2003 From: info at MACDIGITAL-UK.COM (ralph@macdigital-uk.com) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:25:54 -0500 Subject: On the Road with the Brain Surgeons Message-ID: Read the illuminating account of how Dominique Berard got on when he had the wild idea of booking the Brain Surgeons for a 6-date French tour... http://www.macdigital-uk.com/tbs/features/domsdiary_031028/index.htm From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Oct 30 21:20:25 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:20:25 -0500 Subject: On the Road with the Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: ; from info@MACDIGITAL-UK.COM on Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 08:25:54PM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 08:25:54PM -0500, ralph at macdigital-uk.com wrote: > Read the illuminating account of how Dominique Berard got on when he had the > wild idea of booking the Brain Surgeons for a 6-date French tour... > > http://www.macdigital-uk.com/tbs/features/domsdiary_031028/index.htm Toooo funny! >From the page: > I went to the light board and did press the nobs and pushed > strange buttons. At first I didn't have a clue what I was doing > and then it was worse but that was not so bad see nobody > complained :) !!! Yup; been there :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Oct 31 03:05:50 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:05:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: Damo Suzuki, Acid Mothers Gong Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:21:17 -0500, Stephan Forstner wrote: >On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:22:49 -0500, Nick Medford >wrote: >> >>So what do Ruins sound like? > >Basically, like Magma on speed! Look up http://www.aquariusrecords.org This site is an absolute goldmine! The Acid Mothers Gong gig seems to have created quite a stir online- the Gong forum at www.planetgong.co.uk is heaving with (mostly very negative) comments about it, although a couple of people there seem to have been as excited as I was. The forum on the AMT site also has a lot of comments- overwhelmingly positive! I fear this says something about the relative open-mindedness of the two bands' followings. Amazing how conservative these hippies become when they get old... Nick From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Oct 31 05:24:30 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:24:30 +0000 Subject: HW: Complete 79 sound quality Message-ID: I remember asking Harvey that same question backstage at Hammersmith on the Sonic Attack tour and he said only some vocals were redone, which can be verified if you liten to the St Albans '79 bootleg. Eddie. >From: Colm McWilliams >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: Complete 79 sound quality >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:56:31 -0000 > >does anyone know if live 79 had a lot of overdubbing done to it in the >studio or is it completely live? > >cheers > >colm > > > > Hi Craig, > > > > The complete 79 recording was a "collectors item", Ie expect it to be > > rough & ready. Must admit that it was a disapointment to me when I first > > heard it, and now sits gathering dust. > > > > That said, it seems the best complete document from that tour ( the > > first that I saw) and from that point it is worth it alone to me. > > > > 79 is still a cracking LP and is played in southville towers. > > > > regards > > Iain > > > > But from a > > > > Craig Shipley wrote: > > > > > Sorry if this is an old subject, but I got the COMPLETE CD set last >night > > > and, at first listen, the sound quality seems much worse than the old > > > single > > > LIVE IN (initial thought is that there is a lot of tape mis-tracking >and > > > that the sound is not as clean). Must admit that the initial listen > > > was done on > > > a boom-box (but it is a high-quality boom-box, bi-amped speakers >all). >I > > > haven done an A-B comparison yet, but my recollection was that Li79 > > > was one of > > > the best sounding live recordings. Does anyone have any insight about > > > this? Or > > > are my ears just fulla crap? SYMBOL 74 \f "Wingdings" \s 10 > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Craig Shipley > > > mr_ship at bellsouth.net (personal) > > > cshipley at veritas.com (work) > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Oct 31 12:08:10 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:08:10 +0000 Subject: seeking late fall & winter tourdates: 11/28-1/14 Message-ID: The One Eyed Bishops and/or SLOTERDIJK are seeking northeastern/midatlantic U.S. tourdates between, November 28th 2003-January 14th 2004. E-mail for availibility, if interested. Also, please specify which band. If you want to book The OEBs, please note whether or not you would prefer a quieter acoustic duo or trio ensemble. We tailor our performances to the venue and the audience, as we never play the same show twice. Cheers!...Mike Burro ( web resources for these two bands: SLOTERDIJK: http://www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://aural-innovations.com/issues/ss/.html ( see column for list of Sloterdijk reviews and interview) http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/index2.html ( search index for either band name) http://www.citypaper.net/articles/121400/mus.space.shtml ( Philadelphia City Paper article) http://www.godreah.com ( Godreah Records UK: see 'Daze of the Underground' Hawkwind tribute cd ) The One Eyed Bishops: http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com ( Official band website) http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/entertainment/nightlife/scout2.shtml (recent press article) http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/entertainment/nightlife/bandarchive/bishops.s\html ( press article) http://www.struzzin.com/videos/arcstruzzinspotlight120302.html ( radio interview 12/03/02) http://www.mercurymoon.co.uk/rfm/images-hawk-camp-2002.html ( Real Festival Music video 7/02) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/gigs/HawkFest/pages/DevonFest_oeb.htm (Hawkfest 2002) http://www.voiceprint.co.uk ( see Hawkfest 2002 cd set under Hawkwind) http://www.mp3.com/The_OEBs ( mp3 mirror site w/ additional free files) SLOTERDIJK: http://www.mp3.com/sloterdijk http://aural-innovations.com/issues/ss/.html ( see column for list of Sloterdijk reviews and interview) http://the-rocker.freeservers.com/index2.html ( search index for either band name) http://www.citypaper.net/articles/121400/mus.space.shtml ( Philadelphia City Paper article) http://www.godreah.com ( Godreah Records UK: see 'Daze of the Underground' Hawkwind tribute cd ) _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Oct 31 12:25:36 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:25:36 -0500 Subject: Complete 79 sound quality In-Reply-To: <002901c39ede$9fb5dc90$6400a8c0@globemaster> Message-ID: I will inject this comment however. I too had the same reaction as you Craig, but in the time I have owned it, and I got it right when it came out, it really has grown on me so that now it is one of my favorite live CD's from the band. Just my deux euros on this thread Mike http://corwyn.blogspot.com the web log http://www.mikemontfort.com the web site the quote of the day is: Anybody who watches three games of football in a row should be declared brain dead. -- Erma Bombeck -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Craig Shipley Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:09 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW: Complete 79 sound quality Sorry if this is an old subject, but I got the COMPLETE ?79 CD set last night and, at first listen, the sound quality seems much worse than the old single LIVE IN ?79 (initial thought is that there is a lot of tape mis-tracking and that the sound is not as clean). Must admit that the initial listen was done on a boom-box (but it is a high-quality boom-box, bi-amped speakers ?n all). I haven?t done an A-B comparison yet, but my recollection was that Li79 was one of the best sounding live recordings. Does anyone have any insight about this? Or are my ears just fulla crap? SYMBOL 74 \f "Wingdings" \s 10 Regards, Craig Shipley mr_ship at bellsouth.net (personal) cshipley at veritas.com (work) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 10/27/2003 From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Oct 31 12:51:44 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:51:44 -0500 Subject: seeking late fall & winter tourdates: 11/28-1/14 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The One Eyed Bishops and/or SLOTERDIJK are seeking northeastern/midatlantic > U.S. tourdates between, November 28th 2003-January 14th 2004. Try the Bop Shop in Rochester, NY. They showcase excellent folk, jazz and eclectic bands throughout the year. I bet they'd be interested in booking the One Eyed Bishops. bopmail at rochester.rr.com http://www.bopshop.com/ Brian -- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com "Bush told his senior aides Tuesday that he 'didn't want to see any stories' quoting unnamed administration officials in the media anymore, and that if he did, there would be consequences, said a senior administration official who asked that his name not be used." --Philadelphia Enquirer, 10/16/03 From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Oct 31 16:40:30 2003 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:40:30 +0000 Subject: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: I always find in these "smaller" venues you're better off near the front. It took alot of persuading to get Andrea up there as she gets panicky normally,( I mean at OTHER gigs) but at Hawkwind, everyone seems to respect each others space. The novices seem to gravitate towards the back! I felt very out of place? People obviously didn't have much idea about what they were about to see.... I'm glad (VERY) that I moved to stage left?? Wonderful!!Al. >From: Colin J Allen >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:17:15 -0000 > >The new material is there, it is just not allowed out to play yet:). > >It was a bit of an odd gig; the promoters (Future Sound of Exeter) put on >regular events at the Phoenix and try to get an eclectic (and full) >line-up; >I also thought that the guitarist in the bar band was very good, although I >thought that Dbkaos was the guy in the hall before Hawkwind went on; the >band in the bar were (I think) Sembalance with the Iconoclast. The food at >the Phoenix was worthy of mention as was the lovely, lovely (and virtually >unique) mixing desk; it was just such a pity that they kept such a careful >eye on the latter after the gig:(. Now that I would not have minded >lifting >and pushing to the van! > >Colin > > > >Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any >legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. >Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of >valid information. You use the information contained in this message at >your >own risk. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jill Strobridge" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 10:42 PM >Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Blackman" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:53 AM > > Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October > > > > > There ought to be a page at Mission Control just for the roadies and > > all > > > those fine individuals who work so hard behind the scenes to make the > > gigs > > > happen. > > > > > > > Yeah - there definitely should. I must confess to a twinge of guilt > > sometimes when I leave a venue and look back at the stage - empty of > > people but piled high with equipment - knowing that some poor folks have > > still got to dismantle all that lot and pack it away before the evening > > is really over. > > > > Anyhow I finally introduced my sister and her family to a Hawkwind gig - > > Hawkwind People here are my relatives - Relatives this is Hawkwind. > > Thankfully it seemed to go ok - no Damascenian conversions sadly - the > > neices have been too brought up on mainstream I'm afraid but the eldest > > has learned how to get work at Glastonbury (thank you Merrick!) so her > > horizons might broaden a bit and everyone seemed to enjoy the > > experience. > > > > A strange mixture of a gig though - there was a DJ in the main hall > > right up until Hawkwind played, with a very trippy visual show but not > > much else by way of inspiration. The support band (who > > were.........?dbChaos) set up in a tiny cramped corner of a smallish bar > > space and the lead guy played (to my ear) some fairly decent guitar. > > But it was very very packed and everyone was standing on everyone else > > so there wasn't much room to hang around and socialise never mind relax > > and listen. Everyone managed to squeeze into the main hall - > > just -but there was no way I was ever going to see much of the stage so > > it was a question of watching the lights (which were flashy and dramatic > > but clearly not the Chaos Lightshow - it was a real shame about their > > computer failure) and listening to the sound - which was good and > > powerful without being excessively loud - very well balanced. I found > > it difficult to separate out the different guitars (but then I don't > > have the ear of experience) but thought that overall it had a nice > > depth and surroundsound feel to it and certainly everyone around me was > > having a wonderful time! > > > > I'm (selfishly) glad there wasn't much new material but I confess I was > > expecting more - in fact I was expecting a lot more! Where has it > > gone then?? > > > > Anyhow - hi to everyone I met - everyone I recognised and didn't know > > the name of, everyone I would have known the name of but didn't > > recognise and everyone for whom I managed to get both right. > > > > Ah dear - signs of senility......... > > jill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jill Strobridge > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Oct 31 16:55:40 2003 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:55:40 -0600 Subject: Exeter 25th October In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, alan day wrote: :Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October : :I always find in these "smaller" venues you're better off near the front. It :took alot of persuading to get Andrea up there as she gets panicky :normally,( I mean at OTHER gigs) but at Hawkwind, everyone seems to respect :each others space. The novices seem to gravitate towards the back! I felt :very out of place? People obviously didn't have much idea about what they :were about to see.... I'm glad (VERY) that I moved to stage left?? :Wonderful!!Al. : Hrm. I beg to differ (re: "everyone seems to respect each others space.") I used to go up to the front all the time, but there has always been some level of personal discomfort up there (where "personal discomfort" = my state when people start dancing vigorously into me, or people do the "wave the arms" thing and end up smacking me, or even when people just trod on me because they have completely lost their sense of space.) At a Liverpool gig I got punched when I was up at the front, and after that, I've tried to avoid the absolute front, unless I have a buffer of other folks I know and like around me. Nowadays, I try to gravitate to any place where I can see (being somewhat short) or failing that, anyplace where the sound is good. In many circumstances, this happens to be floating near whomever is doing the sound. Arin (who has been somewhat quiet of late. sorry!) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Oct 31 17:05:53 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 08:35:53 +1030 Subject: Exeter 25th October Message-ID: Never had a problem at all. Being right at the front is the best place of all at a giig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October > On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, alan day wrote: > > :Subject: Re: Exeter 25th October > : > :I always find in these "smaller" venues you're better off near the front. It > :took alot of persuading to get Andrea up there as she gets panicky > :normally,( I mean at OTHER gigs) but at Hawkwind, everyone seems to respect > :each others space. The novices seem to gravitate towards the back! I felt > :very out of place? People obviously didn't have much idea about what they > :were about to see.... I'm glad (VERY) that I moved to stage left?? > :Wonderful!!Al. > : > > Hrm. I beg to differ (re: "everyone seems to respect each others > space.") I used to go up to the front all the time, but > there has always been some level of personal discomfort up there (where > "personal discomfort" = my state when people start dancing vigorously into > me, or people do the "wave the arms" thing and end up smacking me, or even > when people just trod on me because they have completely lost their sense > of space.) > > At a Liverpool gig I got punched when I was up at the front, and after > that, I've tried to avoid the absolute front, unless I have a buffer of > other folks I know and like around me. > > Nowadays, I try to gravitate to any place where I can see (being somewhat > short) or failing that, anyplace where the sound is good. In many > circumstances, this happens to be floating near whomever is doing the > sound. > > Arin > (who has been somewhat quiet of late. sorry!) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Oct 31 19:05:37 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:05:37 -0500 Subject: Exeter 25th October In-Reply-To: ; from akomins@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU on Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 03:55:40PM -0600 Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 03:55:40PM -0600, Arin Komins wrote: > (where > "personal discomfort" = my state when people start dancing vigorously into > me In New York in 1995 (that cool venue that had been a church -- The Sanctuary I think it was called (and may still be)), some of us list folk were right at the front. There was one guy (not one of us) who kept trying to get a mosh pit going. He kept forcefully bumping into people; we all kept ignoring him, grumbling (I know I was!); finally he gave up. (To be honest, I was so clued out I didn't even know then about moshing. I just assumed he was a drunk, belligerant asshole trying to pick a fight. Then again, in terms of how I prefer to enjoy concerts, maybe I wasn't so far off :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot