From dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Jul 1 08:11:52 2003 From: dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK (Sean McMahon) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:11:52 -0400 Subject: HW: various Message-ID: Thanks for the link Eric. I think the aural innovations page is wrong about their origin as they are not scandinavian but from Windermere UK or thereabouts. On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:22:46 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 03:47:25AM -0400, Sean McMahon wrote: >> Surely not THE Big Amongst Sheep! They must be 20 years defunct at least. >> I still have a tape of theirs somewhere, I must dig it out! > >And I an LP. I doubt I've listened to it in almost that long. > >This album cover: > http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue6/sheep01.html >has a very Barney Bubbles look to it. Is it in fact one of his? >If so, it must be one of his last... > >-- > >| | /\ >|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >| | / >When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would >be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view >of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was >all of humanity, except me. > - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Tue Jul 1 08:36:49 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:36:49 +0200 Subject: HW: various Message-ID: Sean says... >Thanks for the link Eric. I think the aural innovations page is wrong >about their origin as they are not scandinavian but from Windermere UK or >thereabouts. After I wrote this review, it was confirmed to me that they were from northern England. Though I can't say where Ian Bone was born/raised, though I will for the moment assume that he's a Cumbria native. And anyway, it does say there that indeed they are a UK band, although to me the singer's accent *sounds* Scandinavian to me. Perhaps that's just a false perception...singing voices don't always reflect accents in speaking voices. Anyway... Oh, and the cover of that unofficial CDR isn't necessarily true to the original LP and/or EPs that they released. Those I have never actually seen. They (the bootleggers) may have just used whatever artwork they wanted to use, as they may not really have cared whether it was the same s the original. Maybe Voiceprint will want to do an official re-release, if Rob (?) and the Bone's & Co. are all at the same place at the same time, to work out such details. I'd buy one. Grakkl (FAA) From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Tue Jul 1 09:29:17 2003 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:29:17 -0400 Subject: New Album? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What is the status of the new recording that's been in works for a while? Has there been any news lately, or I did I miss it? Anxiously Waiting on the West Shore of the Pond From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Jul 1 12:10:06 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Sheep in Space) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:10:06 -0400 Subject: HW: various Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:36:49 +0200, wrote: > >Oh, and the cover of that unofficial CDR isn't necessarily true to the >original LP and/or EPs that they released. Those I have never actually >seen. They (the bootleggers) may have just used whatever artwork they >wanted to use, as they may not really have cared whether it was the same >s the original. > I've got the LP and its cover is a sort of Doremi homage, with the shield replaced by a ram's skull. Kind of striking, made me look twice when I saw it in the used discount bin many years ago. I would probably have bought it even if I hadn't noticed that Nik played on a couple of tracks. Stephan From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jul 1 12:55:22 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:55:22 -0400 Subject: HW: New Album? Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:29:17 -0400, dhuggins wrote: >What is the status of the new recording that's been in works for a >while? Has there been any news lately, or I did I miss it? > >Anxiously Waiting on the West Shore of the Pond I believe that Mission Control still states that the album is "mostly" recorded. However, for a while, there was a message promising sound clips "in a few days", but that message was removed after having been there for a couple months with no clips posted. The latest tour featured three (?) songs from the album (one of which, "Sun Ray", is reportedly the best Hawkwind song in years, but then again, it's been years since their last studio album!), so the new album is obviously underway, but there hasn't been any solid news on it that I'm aware of ... Off to Germany until july 13th ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From info at BIGAMONGSTSHEEP.COM Tue Jul 1 22:54:02 2003 From: info at BIGAMONGSTSHEEP.COM (Info) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:54:02 -0700 Subject: HW: www.bigamongstsheep.com web site Message-ID: Its still under construction - there's a lot more to add, but for those interested, there's an unofficial web site for Big Amongst Sheep at www.bigamongstsheep.com. Ian of BAS is aware of the site and will be supplying material for the site... Stay tuned! From dplaw at IC24.NET Wed Jul 2 00:54:19 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 00:54:19 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind wedding - joint announcement Message-ID: It is with much pleasure that The Hawkwind Museum and Starfarer's Hawkwind Page jointly announce the launching of their own commemorative pages celebrating the union of top hawkfans Arin and Rich as well as participation from Hawkwind themselves. Check out the following URL's - http://www.starfarer.net/hwedding.html http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/bidding.htm hope you enjoy them cheers Dave (of the Museum) and Steve (Starfarer) From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Jul 2 18:23:07 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 23:23:07 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Extreme Music Message-ID: I'm feeling quite pleased with myself. I've just managed to listen to all four An*l C**t albums back to back. Thoroughly recommended. Ask for them in your local HMV or Tower Records. All available on Earache Records. Top 40 Hits (1995), 40 More Reasons To Hate Us (1996), I Like It When You Die (1997) and It Just Gets Worse (1998) 172 tracks of unlistenable noise, plus a great cover of "Escape (the Pina Colada Song)". Truly remarkable. Any band that makes Napalm Death and Extreme Noise Terror sound like Bucks Fizz and Liquid Gold (respectively) is OK by me. :-) "It Just Gets Worse" contains the classic songs "I Became A Counselor So I could Tell Rape Victims They Asked For It", "I Intentionally Ran Over Your Dog" and "I Snuck A Retard Into A Sperm Bank". More fun than you can have with three gallons of petrol, a box of matches and a Manchester United Fan Convention. :-) Cheers, Rich. (Please note - don't bother trying the above unless you have a very sick sense of humour and a finely honed sense of the ridiulous. I will not be responsible for the consequences...) From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 3 04:59:10 2003 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:59:10 +0000 Subject: (OFF) Extreme Music Message-ID: Their lyrics are complete genius. Disgusting, horrible, stupid stupid stupid genius. >From: Richard Lockwood >I'm feeling quite pleased with myself. I've just managed to listen to all >four An*l C**t albums back to back. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Thu Jul 3 07:29:24 2003 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:29:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead support Message-ID: Motorhead are playing Sherwood forest this Sunday (6th July) Does anybody know who the support are ? (Or even if there *is* a support ?) Cheers Neil. Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44(0)1773 537000 From andrewjohnaston at AOL.COM Thu Jul 3 16:54:55 2003 From: andrewjohnaston at AOL.COM (Andrew Aston) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 16:54:55 -0400 Subject: tBS in Paris Message-ID: The Brain Surgeons are to play La Locomotive, Paris, France on Sunday October 5. Hope this means some UK shows are in the pipeline too (Albert?? ). From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 4 04:20:33 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:20:33 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest Message-ID: BANDS CONFIRMED SO FAR Hawkwind with Arthur Brown, Tribe of Cro, Big Amongst Sheep, Bruise, Mr Quimby's beard, Spacehead, Proteus, Little Big Men (Richard Chadwick project), Alien Dream, Litmus, Relentless (Featuring Martin Griffin on vocals!), Assassins of Silence , Horace X, Tarantism, PXR1 (more acts to be added, expect a few surprises!)and Hawkwind related jam sessions. OTHER ATTRACTIONS INCLUDE Family friendly - with a children's area and kid's activities. A green area with massage, healing etc Drum, Circus and Belly dance workshops Beer, Cocktail, Wine and Tequila bars Food stalls and cafes And much more Any bands wishing to play at Hawkfest are welcome to bring their equipment with them and will maybe get an opportunity to play on one of the stages. This will be done by a queueing system i.e. the bands put their names down on a blackboard and if and when slots become available, the next band on the list will play (Hawkfest tickets must still be purchased). From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 4 04:25:53 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 04:25:53 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest Competition Message-ID: http://www.efestivals.co.uk have a really difficult(?) competition to win 2 pairs of Hawkfest tickets. In order to stand even a chance of winning you will need to display an in depth knowledge of one of the more obscure events in Hawkwind history (not). From mlawrenc at AU1.IBM.COM Fri Jul 4 06:19:09 2003 From: mlawrenc at AU1.IBM.COM (Marty Lawrence) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 20:19:09 +1000 Subject: Marty Lawrence/Australia/IBM is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting July 4, 2003 and will not return until July 7, 2003. I will be out of the office, returning 7/7/2003 From motherfitzpatrick at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri Jul 4 09:00:16 2003 From: motherfitzpatrick at BTOPENWORLD.COM (motherfitzpatrick) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 14:00:16 +0100 Subject: my nane is D.D.D.Dave Brock Message-ID: Ughhhhhh! That is horrid. Don't like his voice at all, gives me an 'ed ache Sam.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Law" To: Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:18 PM Subject: HW: my nane is D.D.D.Dave Brock > hi there, don't know whether other group members are aware of this but i > just found this very interesting remix at > http://b00mb0x.org/front/2003_04.html and click on the hawkslimmed link on > the right hand side of the page! > regards > dave From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 4 20:31:30 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 01:31:30 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Extreme Music Message-ID: That's about the size of it. :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zebulon Mysterioso" To: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) Extreme Music > Their lyrics are complete genius. Disgusting, horrible, stupid stupid > stupid genius. > > >From: Richard Lockwood > > >I'm feeling quite pleased with myself. I've just managed to listen to all > >four An*l C**t albums back to back. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Jul 5 00:07:31 2003 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 00:07:31 -0400 Subject: tBS in Paris In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 04:54 PM, Andrew Aston wrote: > Hope this means some UK shows are in the pipeline too Well frankly, no, but it could happen. We have a bunch of other unconfirmed shows in France. But if we can secure a date or two in UK we'll do it. I'll check if Mick Brown wants to try again. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Jul 5 17:25:20 2003 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 17:25:20 EDT Subject: HW N. American Tour? Message-ID: Any word on the HW N. American tour? I cudda swore this has been mentioned on the list....but a fellow BOC- Ler sez I'm hallucinating...yet once again. Best regards, Bill Stewart From novadrive at COX.NET Sat Jul 5 18:54:30 2003 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 15:54:30 -0700 Subject: HW N. American Tour? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It WAS mentioned, but not recently. Though I'm REALLY hoping, since that was part of my reason for not making it to Hawkfest this year.... KevinSommers -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 2:25 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: HW N. American Tour? Any word on the HW N. American tour? I cudda swore this has been mentioned on the list....but a fellow BOC- Ler sez I'm hallucinating...yet once again. Best regards, Bill Stewart From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jul 6 02:47:29 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 02:47:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (July 6, 2003): We've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #82). See the playlist below. THE RICK RAY BAND, August 2, 2003, live in front of The Gallery Cafe on E. 185th St in Cleveland, Ohio. Concert starts at 7pm. For more information email hobbelshnimp at hotmail.com. If you are in the Cleveland area you should not miss this show as Rick is one of the hottest guitarists around and his band SMOKES! Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #82) Alien Planetscapes - "Radiation King" (from Life On Earth) F/i - "Using Enemy Weapons" (from A Question For The Somnambulist) Peter Frohmader - "Anubis Rising" (from Anubis Dance) E.X.P. - E.X.P. And The Masticators Of Frequencies Part One (from Pachamama) University Of Errors - "Mystico Fanatico" (from 3/Monica) She-Level - "Woodmen with axes, dryad-killers with knives, and nightingale-vexers with scalpels and scissors" (from She-Level) Man In Space - "Borg" (from For Medicinal Use Only) Daniel Patrick Quinn - "The Winter Hills" (from The Winter Hills) Unlimbo - "Amber" (from See What You Think) Richard Trible - "Elevator People" (from Love, Sex & Other Messy Things) Blade Of The Sun - Track 3 (from T-30 Control) Gas Giant - "Green Valley" (from Mana) Hainloose - "Ladies First" (from Rosula) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 6 03:46:40 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 03:46:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Stonehenge Decoded?? Message-ID: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,992215,00.html Nick From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Jul 6 06:50:40 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (t.byrne) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:50:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Stonehenge Decoded?? Message-ID: What vulva humour --- > > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 03:46:40 -0400 > From: Nick Medford > Subject: HW: Stonehenge Decoded?? > > http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,992215,00.html > > Nick > > ------------------------------ > > End of BOC-L Digest - 5 Jul 2003 to 6 Jul 2003 (#2003-30) > ********************************************************* From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun Jul 6 07:44:50 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 07:44:50 -0400 Subject: HW: Message-ID: + ++ + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + ++ ++ + Please visit HAWKWIND MISSION CONTROL for important HAWKFEST updates ! If you have not already purchased your HAWKFEST ticket, please do so NOW, as no tickets will be available at the event itself! Full details of how to purchase and all the necessary links are on our homepage: www.hawkwind.com Wanted 1. Does anyone have a marquee that they would be willing to set up at Hawkfest for a Backstage hospitality area? 2. Would anyone like to run a children's workshop in theatre/circus etc? Culminating in a children's performance at Hawkfest. 3. Are there any "walk around" carnival type acts who would like to perform at Hawkfest? 4. Any small but unusual theatre/cabaret acts? Please contact us with details at HawkfestActs at hawkwind.org.uk Thanx ++ + MISSION ENDS + + ++ + + + From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 6 08:59:11 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:59:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Stonehenge Decoded?? Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:50:40 +0100, t.byrne wrote: >What vulva humour >--- An interesting passage, nonetheless. Nick From gg at NINJANET.COM Sun Jul 6 09:44:16 2003 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:44:16 +0200 Subject: (OFF) Extreme Music In-Reply-To: <028d01c340e8$83d4d660$e42d9fd4@bernard> Message-ID: Richard wrote: > I'm feeling quite pleased with myself. I've just managed to listen to all > four An*l C**t albums back to back. oohhh, that's GREAT!! AxCx are genius, for the lyrics, sounds, noise and the other stuff. And they are gay! :) If you like grind I can raccomend you the Carcass album, in particular Reek of Putrefaction or Necroticism. Simply Great. > Top 40 Hits (1995), > 40 More Reasons To Hate Us (1996), > I Like It When You Die (1997) and > It Just Gets Worse (1998) you miss "Picnic Of Love" (i haven't it, sigh), that are truly love (???) songs. Really!! If you are more into Black Metal, Carpathian Forest could be a great surpise for you. There are lot of serious songs about the forest, religion and things like that, and more and more songs about masturbation or stupid things. And the music is a mixture of Black Metal and Rock And Roll. Rally great. > Truly remarkable. Any band that makes Napalm Death and Extreme Noise Terror > sound like Bucks Fizz and Liquid Gold (respectively) is OK by me. :-) ok, look for brutal truth (album "extreme conditions demand extreme responses"), Bolt Thrower (I have only "warmaster"), Cripple Bastards (they are italian but well know in the entire european underground scene). And there are a band of a friend that sound really grind, stupid, ignorant and ridicolous. Really great. They are Recto Rectors. I have the command to copy their work to all the world ahah! oh, now I remember that I rewied for my zine a french band called "Ultra Vomit", they are simply great with a singer that makes a lots of noises without using electronic effects! Ehi, I have a lot of grind album... can we make some trade? :) ciao!, gg -- www.shapeless.it - italian metal webzine www.iammol.com - it.arti.musica.metal online From hms at ITECHMEDIA.COM Sun Jul 6 12:31:04 2003 From: hms at ITECHMEDIA.COM (Dr. T.) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:31:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Del Dettmar early solo work (very un-extreme music) Message-ID: When Napster was going full-steam in the late 90's, I chanced upon a few tunes by Del Dettmar; "Return of the Wolf Chicks", "It's an Idea", and one just called "Improvisation". The guy who had these was in the UK, and I chatted with him briefly. He said he ripped them from an Del Dettmar solo LP that was sold during the Space Ritual days ('72 - '74?). Does anybody have more information about this material? I haven't seen it mentioned in any HW discographies, and was never able to catch the source online again to get the complete thing... >From a listen to the tunes I did get, this disc seems to be well worth finding. Much better than them dodgy boots... Thanks in advance. Fast approaching the 30th anniversary of my first live HAWKWIND show - 11/26/1973... From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 6 17:01:07 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:01:07 -0400 Subject: HW: More Hawkfest Message-ID: Hawkfest Job Vacancies Wanted 1. Does anyone have a marquee that they would be willing to set up at Hawkfest for a Backstage hospitality area? 2. Would anyone like to run a children's workshop in theatre/circus etc? Culminating in a children's performance at Hawkfest. 3. Are there any "walk around" carnival type acts who would like to perform at Hawkfest? 4. Any small but unusual theatre/cabaret acts? Please contact us with details at HawkfestActs at hawkwind.org.uk From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Jul 6 18:51:46 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:51:46 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Vietnam Message-ID: Apologies for the completely off topic post - Can anyone tell me (this is the only mailing list I'm on that has a high proportion of American readers) why America went into Vietnam in the first place? I know it's a "stopping the spread of communism" thing - but what were the political arguments? I could look this up on the web, sure, but I'd like some personal views from Americans... (In times gone by I would have just privately emailed this to Larry, but...) Cheers, Rich. From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Jul 6 19:54:05 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (AerospaceAge Warrior) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:54:05 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Vietnam In-Reply-To: <08c501c34411$2e150c50$e42d9fd4@bernard> Message-ID: I'm sure others will chime in. The theory was that if one Asian country fell there would be a domino effect with other countries as well. This was a policy mostly framed by Dulles. He and his wonks felt that they would loose the whole of Asia to communism if one country fell. Also it was a slow creep in the early days. It was first in support of the French fighting the insurgency. Just advisors at first. I do believe it was Johnson that really upped the number of troops there and then Nixon who went whole hog. There is an amazing book called "Fire in the Lake" which does a great job of proving the theory that culturally we never could have exported democracy to the Vietnamese and Cambodian peoples. Of course this concept is very important today with yet another Republican Administration "bringing democracy" to peoples who frankly have no concept as to what it is about. I'm sure some will disagree and some have better points than I. I'm no expert. Mike ________________________________________________ An effective way to deal with predators is to taste terrible. -- Unknown ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List ::[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood ::Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 6:52 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET ::Subject: (OFF) Vietnam :: :: ::Apologies for the completely off topic post - Can anyone tell me (this is ::the only mailing list I'm on that has a high proportion of ::American readers) ::why America went into Vietnam in the first place? I know it's a ::"stopping ::the spread of communism" thing - but what were the political arguments? :: ::I could look this up on the web, sure, but I'd like some ::personal views from ::Americans... :: ::(In times gone by I would have just privately emailed this to ::Larry, but...) :: ::Cheers, :: ::Rich. :: From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Jul 6 20:07:44 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:07:44 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Vietnam Message-ID: No, that's all I needed to know. Thanks for that Mike. Much appreciated. Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "AerospaceAge Warrior" To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) Vietnam > I'm sure others will chime in. > > The theory was that if one Asian country fell there would be a domino > effect with other countries as well. This was a policy mostly framed by > Dulles. He and his wonks felt that they would loose the whole of Asia to > communism if one country fell. > > Also it was a slow creep in the early days. It was first in support of the > French fighting the insurgency. Just advisors at first. I do believe it > was Johnson that really upped the number of troops there and then Nixon who > went whole hog. > > There is an amazing book called "Fire in the Lake" which does a great job > of proving the theory that culturally we never could have exported > democracy to the Vietnamese and Cambodian peoples. > > Of course this concept is very important today with yet another Republican > Administration "bringing democracy" to peoples who frankly have no concept > as to what it is about. > > I'm sure some will disagree and some have better points than I. I'm no > expert. > > Mike > > ________________________________________________ > > An effective way to deal with predators is to taste terrible. > > -- Unknown > > > > > > ::-----Original Message----- > ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > ::[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > ::Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 6:52 PM > ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > ::Subject: (OFF) Vietnam > :: > :: > ::Apologies for the completely off topic post - Can anyone tell me (this is > ::the only mailing list I'm on that has a high proportion of > ::American readers) > ::why America went into Vietnam in the first place? I know it's a > ::"stopping > ::the spread of communism" thing - but what were the political arguments? > :: > ::I could look this up on the web, sure, but I'd like some > ::personal views from > ::Americans... > :: > ::(In times gone by I would have just privately emailed this to > ::Larry, but...) > :: > ::Cheers, > :: > ::Rich. > :: > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Jul 6 20:16:41 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:16:41 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Tennessee Message-ID: On a completely unrelated topic, is there anyone on the list who's anywhere near Knoxville TN? We (my wife and I) are going there for a fortnight in October and I'm looking for good rock 'n' roll things to do. (I understand it's around 380 miles from Elvis's grave, so that might rule out the Spinal Tap thing...) Time before last that I went to the States I managed to accidentally see Hawkwind... Three thousand miles to see a band from Ladbroke Grove... Albert tells me the Brain Surgeons will be in Europe around that time. Great timing on my part eh? :-( Arse. Anyway, any help will be much appreciated. Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 7 01:29:54 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:29:54 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Extreme Music Message-ID: > Richard wrote: > > > I'm feeling quite pleased with myself. I've just managed to listen to all > > four An*l C**t albums back to back. > > > oohhh, that's GREAT!! > > AxCx are genius, for the lyrics, sounds, noise and the other stuff. > And they are gay! :) Sending emails is gay! > > If you like grind I can raccomend you the Carcass album, in particular > Reek of Putrefaction or Necroticism. Simply Great. > > > Top 40 Hits (1995), > > 40 More Reasons To Hate Us (1996), > > I Like It When You Die (1997) and > > It Just Gets Worse (1998) > > you miss "Picnic Of Love" (i haven't it, sigh), that are truly love > (???) songs. Really!! Isn't that a Seth solo album rather than a proper AC album? > > If you are more into Black Metal, Carpathian Forest could be a great > surpise for you. There are lot of serious songs about the forest, > religion and things like that, and more and more songs about > masturbation or stupid things. And the music is a mixture of Black > Metal and Rock And Roll. Rally great. > > > > > Truly remarkable. Any band that makes Napalm Death and Extreme Noise Terror > > sound like Bucks Fizz and Liquid Gold (respectively) is OK by me. :-) > > ok, look for brutal truth (album "extreme conditions demand extreme > responses"), Bolt Thrower (I have only "warmaster"), Cripple Bastards > (they are italian but well know in the entire european underground > scene). And there are a band of a friend that sound really grind, > stupid, ignorant and ridicolous. Really great. They are Recto Rectors. > I have the command to copy their work to all the world ahah! Ooh - that could be good! I'll see your Recto Rectors and raise you one "The Berzerker" and one "Forest Stream". I might even up the ante with "Lawnmower Deth"... > > oh, now I remember that I rewied for my zine a french band called > "Ultra Vomit", they are simply great with a singer that makes a lots > of noises without using electronic effects! > > Ehi, I have a lot of grind album... can we make some trade? :) I'm sure we can manage that. :-) Drop me a mail offline. I'm lucky in that my old guitarist works at Earache records... :-) Cheers, Rich. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Jul 7 09:03:25 2003 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:03:25 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Vietnam In-Reply-To: <08c501c34411$2e150c50$e42d9fd4@bernard> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 11:51:46PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: => Apologies for the completely off topic post - Can anyone tell me (this is => the only mailing list I'm on that has a high proportion of American readers) => why America went into Vietnam in the first place? I know it's a "stopping => the spread of communism" thing - but what were the political arguments? If you don't fancy reading anything, you might want to watch the recent film _The Quiet American_ starring Michael Caine (which I think is actually based on a Graham Greene novel). It deals with the beginnings of American involvement in Vietnam. It's a good film, too! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Mon Jul 7 10:24:43 2003 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:24:43 -0500 Subject: (OFF) Tennessee Message-ID: On a completely unrelated topic, is there anyone on the list who's anywhere near Knoxville TN? We (my wife and I) are going there for a fortnight in October and I'm looking for good rock 'n' roll things to do. (I understand it's around 380 miles from Elvis's grave, so that might rule out the Spinal Tap thing...) Rich, it might as well be 380 light years from the kings grave, your will be in country music hell boy. :-) So bring your own music and make sure the rental car has a CD player or its the Cixe Dhicks, err Dixe Chicks ect. Memphis is a great blues town, with jazz and rock as well. Jerry Lee Lewis is doing his version of Hawkfest at his home just south of Memphis sometime in October. Now that would be Killer... Not to worry the mountains and autumn colors will be fabulous. -- Doug Bates From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 7 11:47:44 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:47:44 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Vietnam Message-ID: >On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 11:51:46PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: > >=> Apologies for the completely off topic post - Can anyone tell me (this is >=> the only mailing list I'm on that has a high proportion of American readers) >=> why America went into Vietnam in the first place? I know it's a "stopping >=> the spread of communism" thing - but what were the political arguments? Rich- The book "Heroes" by John Pilger includes a section on Vietnam, with an eye- opening description of events that led up to US involvement. It's worth pointing out that John Pilger is something of a left-wing firebrand and you may want to look at something else for "balance", but it's a fascinating (if depressing) read nonetheless. The book includes similarly disturbing analyses of a range of conflicts and political situations, including a section on the UK miners' strike and Thatcherism which will take you right back to the heady days (??) of Britain in the 1980s. Nick From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jul 7 14:48:56 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:48:56 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Vietnam In-Reply-To: ; from mikemont@NYCAP.RR.COM on Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:54:05PM -0400 Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 07:54:05PM -0400, AerospaceAge Warrior wrote: > The theory was that if one Asian country fell there would be a domino > effect with other countries as well. This was a policy mostly framed by > Dulles. He and his wonks felt that they would loose the whole of Asia to > communism if one country fell. Just to note that "domino theory" was the buzzword much used at the time. A quick Google search turned this up, from the horse's master's mouth :-) It's from a press conference given by President Dwight D. Eisenhower on Apr. 7, 1954: Q. Robert Richards, Copley Press: Mr. President, would you mind commenting on the strategic importance of Indochina to the free world? I think there has been, across the country, some lack of understanding on just what it means to us. The President. You have, of course, both the specific and the general when you talk about such things. First of all, you have the specific value of a locality in its production of materials that the world needs. Then you have the possibility that many human beings pass under a dictatorship that is inimical to the free world. Finally, you have broader considerations that might follow what you would call the "falling \cf2 domino\cf0 " principle. You have a row of dominoes set up, you knock over the first one, and what will happen to the last one is the certainty that it will go over very quickly. So you could have a beginning of a disintegration that would have the most profound influences. Now, with respect to the first one, two of the items from this particular area that the world uses are tin and tungsten. They are very important. There are others, of course, the rubber plantations and so on. Then with respect to more people passing under this domination, Asia, after all, has already lost some 450 million of its peoples to the Communist dictatorship, and we simply can't afford greater losses. But when we come to the possible sequence of events, the loss of Indochina, of Burma, of Thailand, of the Peninsula, and Indonesia following, now you begin to talk about areas that not only multiply the disadvantages that you would suffer through loss of materials, sources of materials, but now you are talking really about millions and millions and millions of people. Finally, the geographical position achieved thereby does many things. It turns the so-called island defensive chain of Japan, Formosa, of the Philippines and to the southward; it moves in to threaten Australia and New Zealand. It takes away, in its economic aspects, that region that Japan must have as a trading area or Japan, in turn, will have only one place in the world to go -- that is, toward the Communist areas in order to live. So, the possible consequences of the loss are just incalculable to the free world. From: http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/domino.html There are some other interesting, still-topical things in there too, if you're willing to wade through stuff that stopped being relevent not very long after it was said :-) Like this prescient gem (still talking about a possible future "all-out effort" in Indochina): ... for many years, in talking to different countries, different governments, I have tried to insist on this principle: no outside country can come in and be really helpful unless it is doing something that the local people want. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 7 14:55:02 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:55:02 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Extreme Music In-Reply-To: <092101c34448$ccb9d250$e42d9fd4@bernard> Message-ID: I might even up the ante with "Lawnmower Deth"... They're not still around, surely? We put them on in about '88 at Sheffield Rock Soc, one of the first gigs I worked. Much 'fish dancing' ensued as I remember. Liked the tribute to Gary Moore as well :-) We contacted them again about playing but got someone's mum who told us he was at work, that was the last we heard. Nick From chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK Mon Jul 7 17:24:45 2003 From: chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK (Chaos Illumination) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:24:45 +0100 Subject: (OFF) Extreme Music - Watch out grandma Message-ID: Ahhh yes - We remember the dulcet tones of Lawnmower Deth. Who can forget the classic titles by these sadly missed pioneers of garden tool based thrash metal with classic lyrics such as 'Watch out grandma here comes a lawnmower, gonna rip your face off', 'Thermo-nuclear war is good for the complexion' and 'I got the clap and me nob fell off'. A really funny band that were quite local to us so played the local rock night club in around 1989. A bit like the thrash version of The Macc Lads (but better in my opinion). They had a bit of a cult following around Chesterfield - which says alot about Chesterfield I suppose. A friend had loads of little 'address type stickers made up that were plastered everywhere I seem to remember. In fact - Neil still has his t-shirt:-) If you're really interested, or bothered then you can sample the musical delights of Lawnmower Deth here - http://www.shipley.ac.uk/north/deth/ Brings a smile back to my face from my youthful hardcore thrasher days. Marie & Neil - currently listening to the MP3's of Lawnmower Deth that I forgot I had on my harddrive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 7:55 PM Subject: Re: (OFF) Extreme Music > I might even up the ante with > "Lawnmower Deth"... > > > They're not still around, surely? We put them on in about '88 at > Sheffield Rock Soc, one of the first gigs I worked. > Much 'fish dancing' ensued as I remember. Liked the tribute to Gary > Moore as well :-) > We contacted them again about playing but got someone's mum who told us > he was at work, that was the last we heard. > > Nick > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jul 7 20:50:33 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:50:33 -0400 Subject: (OFF) Extreme Music In-Reply-To: ; from beautiful_foot@HOTMAIL.COM on Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 08:59:10AM +0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 08:59:10AM +0000, Zebulon Mysterioso wrote: > Their lyrics are complete genius. Disgusting, horrible, stupid stupid > stupid genius. Sounds like Patrick Sky's lyrics on "Songs that Made America Famous": http://www.adelphirecords.com/Folk/4101PatSky.html My favourite's gotta be his piss-take on a certain Merle Haggard song: I'm proud to be an Okie from Muskogee Said I'm proud to be a redneck from the south Everywhere I go the Wallace-voters know me Say, love me or I'll punch you in the mouth In quoting this, I intend no offence to the many Southerners I've met, or who might be on this list, who are the farthest thing from being rednecks. MUCH offence intended to rednecks living in other parts of the world, including mine :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 10 06:00:32 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:00:32 +0100 Subject: Pentrich Festival Message-ID: Does anyone have any idea when Hawkwind will take the stage on the Friday night? Just trying to see if flying down after work will be feasible... FoFP From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jul 10 13:04:18 2003 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 18:04:18 +0100 Subject: Pentrich Festival Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" > > Just trying to see if flying down after work will be feasible... > > FoFP Feasible, perhaps ... flashy - definitely! Ian From dplaw at IC24.NET Fri Jul 11 01:55:26 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:55:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Introductions - thank you Message-ID: it's taken longer than i expected, but for all those who replyed to the HW: introductions topic of a few weeks ago i've now pulled all your thoughts together and out of it created a web page for all the world to see (if they so wish!) thanks to all of you who took the time to "have your say" on the matter and in a blatently shameless plug anyone who wants to take a look can do so by clicking on http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/introduc.htm regards dave From Farflung at COMCAST.NET Fri Jul 11 18:53:30 2003 From: Farflung at COMCAST.NET (DRider) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:53:30 -0400 Subject: Off: ROB HALFORD REUNITES WITH JUDAS PRIEST Message-ID: The Metal God is Back! World Tour in 2004 http://www.judaspriest.com/ Screaming For Vengeance D From gg at NINJANET.COM Sat Jul 12 04:23:46 2003 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:23:46 +0200 Subject: Off: ROB HALFORD REUNITES WITH JUDAS PRIEST In-Reply-To: <031a01c347ff$400afb80$33438118@se1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: DRider wrote: > The Metal God is Back! > World Tour in 2004 > http://www.judaspriest.com/ > Screaming For Vengeance AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! GRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!! -- www.shapeless.it - italian metal webzine www.iammol.com - it.arti.musica.metal online From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sat Jul 12 07:34:44 2003 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 12:34:44 +0100 Subject: HW:Hawkfest Message-ID: Hello folks! Just to let you know that Drunk in Public have just agreed to play Hawkfest! ...................Polymorphic are running a dance tent............................. More info as we get it.............................. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jul 12 10:22:14 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 22:22:14 +0800 Subject: OFF: Big news for Doctor Who fans!!!! Message-ID: Hi there For any of you out there who are fans of Doctor Who, here is news from the BBC's own web site:- Doctor Who is back. This time he's fully animated, he's got a new body... and he's on BBCi. Richard E. Grant will play the ninth incarnation of the Time Lord. He described his interpretation as something of a "Sherlock Holmes in Space," and said he immensely enjoyed recording the story. The animated adventure, featuring a star-studded cast, is scripted by Paul Cornell - regarded as one of the finest of the new breed of Doctor Who authors. Paul is also an established TV writer, working on such series as BBC1's Casualty. "I'm honoured to have the chance to set the Doctor off on another forty years of adventures," said Paul. "Just wait until you hear Richard! He is the Doctor!" The story is set to debut in mid-November, in time for Doctor Who's 40th anniversary. There are plans to release it on DVD soon, & there are also plans to do more. Bye for now William From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jul 12 11:07:00 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:07:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Big news for Doctor Who fans!!!! Message-ID: Makes me wonder why the BBC wont bring back Doctor who properly and start a new series on the TV. Colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: OFF: Big news for Doctor Who fans!!!! > Hi there > > For any of you out there who are fans of Doctor Who, here is news from the > BBC's own web site:- > > Doctor Who is back. This time he's fully animated, he's got a new body... > and he's on BBCi. > > > Richard E. Grant will play the ninth incarnation of the Time Lord. He > described his interpretation as something of a "Sherlock Holmes in Space," > and said he immensely enjoyed recording the story. > > The animated adventure, featuring a star-studded cast, is scripted by Paul > Cornell - regarded as one of the finest of the new breed of Doctor Who > authors. Paul is also an established TV writer, working on such series as > BBC1's Casualty. > > "I'm honoured to have the chance to set the Doctor off on another forty > years of adventures," said Paul. "Just wait until you hear Richard! He is > the Doctor!" > > The story is set to debut in mid-November, in time for Doctor Who's 40th > anniversary. > > There are plans to release it on DVD soon, & there are also plans to do > more. > > > > Bye for now > > William > From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Jul 13 07:20:34 2003 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 12:20:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest updates Message-ID: Hello Folks, Just a quick update on what's happening at Hawkfest this year. Everything is underway and things are beginning to get hectic down here. We should have a festival office set up after we get back from the Rock and Blues festival so any queries should be dealt with quickly. We are getting tickets out as quickly as we can, so if you are still waiting, bear with us, its all under control :-) The festival arrangements are beginning to shape up, we visited the site at the weekend and its looking great. Merrick and Julie will be there again this year with their "air sculptures" and their wonderful recycling tricycles. Peter Pracovnik will be there with his arts and crafts and will be happy to sign posters, cards etc. I believe that there will be a certain museum present.....so we all look forward to seeing what they have to exhibit :-). We did consider having a Hawkwind Karaoke set up, but this idea has met with mixed views by the organisers so I think that we are giving that a miss (unless you think differently!!). There will be a "pick up" stall for all who are entitled to the free festie 2002 taster cd. Any other original and exciting ideas you may have for this years festie will be listened to......remember its your festival, let us know what you want. A lot of us here in the office are great Levellers fans, so we are pleased to have Drunk in Public (acoustic Levellers) playing at the festie. It looks like they will be playing on Sunday night. Hawkwind will be playing on Saturday night, joined I do believe, by special guest, TV presenter Matthew Wright, who impressed us all at the Astoria with his stunning rendition of Spirit of the Age! Still looking for some walk around acts....stilt walkers, jugglers, acrobats, street theatre etc......so come on all you budding performers, get in touch! The site opens at 12 midday on Friday 8th August (the day before my birthday :-}) So look forward to seeing you all there..The BRIGHTER the better!!!!!! Best wishes, Kris. BANDS CONFIRMED SO FAR Hawkwind with Arthur Brown, Drunk in Public (acoustic Levellers), Tribe of Cro, Big Amongst Sheep, Bruise, Mr Quimby's beard, Spacehead, Proteus, Little Big Men (Richard Chadwick project), Alien Dream, Litmus, Relentless (Featuring Martin Griffin on vocals!), Assassins of Silence, Horace X, Tarantism, PXR1 and Hawkwind related jam sessions, (more acts to be added, expect a few surprises!) OTHER ATTRACTIONS INCLUDE Family friendly - with a children's area and kid's activities. A green area with massage, healing etc Drum, Circus and Belly dance workshops Beer, Cocktail, Wine and Tequila bars Food stalls and cafes Dance Tent And much more Any bands wishing to play at Hawkfest are welcome to bring their equipment with them and will maybe get an opportunity to play on one of the stages. This will be done by a queuing system i.e. the bands put their names down on a blackboard and if and when slots become available, the next band on the list will play. (Hawkfest tickets must still be purchased) Tickets can be purchased through the Festival information hotline : 07977 270787 and from the Voiceprint freephone line : 0500 829262 or follow the links for credit card bookings at www.hawkwind.com Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Sun Jul 13 16:30:58 2003 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:30:58 +0100 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Does anyone have a definitive list of Hawkwind studio albums? By "studio albums" I means albums with new tracks recorded in the studio, so it excludes compilations like Atomhenge, Ambient Anarchists etc. It also excludes the dozens of live recordings with the honourable exception of Space Ritual, which is as good as any studio album Hawkwind have ever done! My list so far is: 1970 Hawkwind 1971 In Search of Space 1972 Doremi Fasol Latido 1973 Space Ritual 1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill 1975 Warrier on the Edge of Time 1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music 1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm 1978 25 Years On 1979 PXR5 1980 Levitation 1982 Church of Hawkwind 1988 Xenon Codex 1990 Space Bandits 1992 Electric Tepee 1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous 1995 Alien 4 1997 Distant Horizons Also if anyone wants to attempt a rating, e.g. 1 to 5, for these albums I'd be interested to hear peoples views. I've attempted this myself several times, but apart from a few stinkers? I find it hard to pick one album over another. JR ? Am I going to offend too many people if I say that "It is the Future ..." is pretty dull? :-) From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Jul 13 16:43:26 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:43:26 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: ? Am I going to offend too many people if I say that "It is the Future ..." is pretty dull? :-) i think that's the opinion of a lot of fans, can't say i'm that struck myself, but that's why following hawkwind is so interesting, everyone's got their own opinion ;-) regards dave From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 13 16:47:06 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:47:06 +0100 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: I know someone who hates "Astounding"; OK, I accept that it is a bit funky in places but it has some of the best Hawkwind songs ever! Colin Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Law" To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums ? Am I going to offend too many people if I say that "It is the Future ..." is pretty dull? :-) i think that's the opinion of a lot of fans, can't say i'm that struck myself, but that's why following hawkwind is so interesting, everyone's got their own opinion ;-) regards dave From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Jul 13 16:49:18 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:49:18 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:30:58 +0100, John Rennie wrote: >Does anyone have a definitive list of Hawkwind studio albums? By "studio >albums" I means albums with new tracks recorded in the studio, so it >excludes compilations like Atomhenge, Ambient Anarchists etc. It also >excludes the dozens of live recordings with the honourable exception of >Space Ritual, which is as good as any studio album Hawkwind have ever done! > >My list so far is: > >1970 Hawkwind >1971 In Search of Space >1972 Doremi Fasol Latido >1973 Space Ritual >1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill >1975 Warrier on the Edge of Time >1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music >1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm >1978 25 Years On >1979 PXR5 >1980 Levitation >1982 Church of Hawkwind >1988 Xenon Codex >1990 Space Bandits >1992 Electric Tepee >1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous >1995 Alien 4 >1997 Distant Horizons guess you can also add in your area from 1997, which was in part a studio album and from 2000 there's spacebrock which is for all intents and purpose a dave brock solo album but then wasn't church of hawkwind! From Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM Sun Jul 13 17:15:00 2003 From: Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM (Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 17:15:00 EDT Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Love in Space... From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 13 17:23:12 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:23:12 +0100 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: A live album, I believe. Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > Love in Space... > From youless at COX.NET Sun Jul 13 18:26:15 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:26:15 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Hi John (Did you used to live in the Sudan when you were a kid? Email me off so) Answers mixed in below... ------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:30:58 +0100, John Rennie wrote: >Does anyone have a definitive list of Hawkwind studio albums? >My list so far is: > >1970 Hawkwind >1971 In Search of Space >1972 Doremi Fasol Latido >1973 Space Ritual >1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill >1975 Warrier on the Edge of Time >1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music >1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm >1978 25 Years On >1979 PXR5 >1980 Levitation 1981 Sonic Attack 1982 Choose Your Masques >1982 Church of Hawkwind 1983 Zones 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword 1987 Out & Intake >1988 Xenon Codex >1990 Space Bandits >1992 Electric Tepee >1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous >1995 Alien 4 >1997 Distant Horizons 1998 Hawkwind In Your Area 2000 SpaceBrock > >Also if anyone wants to attempt a rating, e.g. 1 to 5, for these albums I'd >be interested to hear peoples views. You can 'hear' my views if you go to my website at http://www.starfarer.net, click on 'CD/DVD/Book Reviews' and then click on 'Guide to Hawkwind Albums', FWIW >? Am I going to offend too many people if I say that "It is the Future ..." >is pretty dull? :-) Oh, I don't think so :-) I've said worse. But some people love it and good luck to them. Steve From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 13 19:02:00 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 00:02:00 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest updates Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hawkwind" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 12:20 PM > Subject: HW: Hawkfest updates > > Still looking for some walk around acts....stilt walkers, > jugglers, acrobats, street theatre etc......so come on > all you budding performers, get in touch! There will be dozens of these folk performing around the streets of Edinburgh as part of the Fringe bit of the Edinburgh Festival (approx 10-30 August). I don't know if the Fringe Society Office keeps contact addresses or phone numbers - they might if they have to register as street performers - but you could try calling the office: Edinburgh Fringe Society, 180 High Street Tel: 0131 226 5257 jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Mon Jul 14 03:47:58 2003 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:47:58 +0100 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: I know its not everbody's favourite HW album, but you missed 1985 (or was it 86?) : Chronicle of the Black Sword. (probably others, but its a monday morning) Cheers Neil. Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. 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Microlise Group Limited +44(0)1773 537000 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 14 10:13:34 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:13:34 +0100 Subject: HW: List of studio albums In-Reply-To: Dave Law's message of Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:49:18 -0400 Message-ID: Dave Law writes: > >1970 Hawkwind > >1971 In Search of Space > >1972 Doremi Fasol Latido > >1973 Space Ritual > >1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill > >1975 Warrier on the Edge of Time > >1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > >1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm > >1978 25 Years On > >1979 PXR5 > >1980 Levitation > >1982 Church of Hawkwind > >1988 Xenon Codex > >1990 Space Bandits > >1992 Electric Tepee > >1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > >1995 Alien 4 > >1997 Distant Horizons 1981 Sonic Attack 1982 Choose Your Masques 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Jul 14 14:49:56 2003 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (m.j.crook at TALK21.COM) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:49:56 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Zones? > Dave Law writes: > > >1970 Hawkwind > >1971 In Search of Space > >1972 Doremi Fasol Latido > >1973 Space Ritual > >1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill > >1975 Warrier on the Edge of Time > >1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > >1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm > >1978 25 Years On > >1979 PXR5 > >1980 Levitation > >1982 Church of Hawkwind > >1988 Xenon Codex > >1990 Space Bandits > >1992 Electric Tepee > >1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > >1995 Alien 4 > >1997 Distant Horizons > >1981 Sonic Attack >1982 Choose Your Masques >1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Mon Jul 14 15:02:24 2003 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:02:24 +0100 Subject: FW: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Zones seems to contain a lot of tracks from other albums, e.g. Motorway City Utopia Sonic Attack Dream Worker Brainstorm I'm not clear where it stands, I must admit I had assumed it was a live album as the sound quality isn't very good. JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sent: 14 July 2003 19:50 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums Zones? > Dave Law writes: > > >1970 Hawkwind > >1971 In Search of Space > >1972 Doremi Fasol Latido > >1973 Space Ritual > >1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill > >1975 Warrier on the Edge of Time > >1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > >1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm > >1978 25 Years On > >1979 PXR5 > >1980 Levitation > >1982 Church of Hawkwind > >1988 Xenon Codex > >1990 Space Bandits > >1992 Electric Tepee > >1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > >1995 Alien 4 > >1997 Distant Horizons > >1981 Sonic Attack >1982 Choose Your Masques >1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Jul 14 15:38:07 2003 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (m.j.crook at TALK21.COM) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:38:07 -0400 Subject: FW: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: John wrote - > Zones seems to contain a lot of tracks from other albums, e.g. > >Motorway City >Utopia >Sonic Attack >Dream Worker >Brainstorm > >I'm not clear where it stands, I must admit I had assumed it was a live >album as the sound quality isn't very good. > >JR > True John, but your original mail had the qualifying statement - "By studio albums I mean albums with new tracks recorded in the studio" - which Zones does indeed have, although I have to admit it's one of my least played albums. Mick >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of m.j.crook at TALK21.COM >Sent: 14 July 2003 19:50 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > > >Zones? > > > Dave Law writes: > > >1970 Hawkwind > >1971 In Search of Space > >1972 Doremi Fasol Latido > >1973 Space Ritual > >1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill > >1975 Warrier on the Edge of Time > >1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > >1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm > >1978 25 Years On > >1979 PXR5 > >1980 Levitation > >1982 Church of Hawkwind > >1988 Xenon Codex > >1990 Space Bandits > >1992 Electric Tepee > >1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > >1995 Alien 4 > >1997 Distant Horizons > >1981 Sonic Attack >1982 Choose Your Masques >1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword > >-------------------- >talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at >http://www.talk21.com -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 14 16:01:24 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:01:24 -0400 Subject: FW: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: >John wrote - >> Zones seems to contain a lot of tracks from other albums, e.g. >> >>Motorway City >>Utopia >>Sonic Attack >>Dream Worker >>Brainstorm >> >>I'm not clear where it stands, I must admit I had assumed it was a live >>album as the sound quality isn't very good. Side 1 is studio, side 2 is live. It's worth pointing out that many HW live albums contain tracks that aren't available in studio form- off the top of my head... Live '79, Palace Springs, This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic, Live Chronicles all contain songs that aren't on any studio albums, as do some of the Weird albums. Nick From charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET Mon Jul 14 16:38:42 2003 From: charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET (Charlie Grant) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:38:42 +0100 Subject: BOC: last night's tv Message-ID: I don't know if I've missed this on the list or not (normally the case!) but it may be one for the FAQ. On Six Feet Under last night (in the UK) there was a biker funeral going on and as the party continued in the funeral home and a couple of the main characters were talking, in the background a (very possibly drunken) bunch of bikers were playing and singing along loudly to DFtR, it was quite a surprise. Then at the end they played the song again as the credits rolled. .......Charles the Grinning Boy. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jul 14 19:41:54 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:41:54 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: A couple more ... On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:26:15 -0400, Steve Youles wrote: > >------------------------------------------------------------- >On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:30:58 +0100, John Rennie >wrote: > >>Does anyone have a definitive list of Hawkwind studio albums? >>My list so far is: >> >>1970 Hawkwind >>1971 In Search of Space >>1972 Doremi Fasol Latido >>1973 Space Ritual What's this one ('Space Ritual') doing on a list of studio albums? ;^) >>1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill >>1975 Warrior on the Edge of Time >>1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music >>1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm >>1978 25 Years On >>1979 PXR5 >>1980 Levitation >1981 Sonic Attack >1982 Choose Your Masques >>1982 Church of Hawkwind >1983 Zones (Is "Running Through The Back Brain" the only studio track?) >1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword >1987 Out & Intake >>1988 Xenon Codex 1989 Palace Springs (2 studio tracks, "Treadmill" & "Back in the Box"?) >>1990 Space Bandits >>1992 Electric Tepee >>1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous 1994 Psychedelic Warriors/White Zone (includes Brock/Davey/Chadwick, so it should count IMO) >>1995 Alien 4 >>1997 Distant Horizons >1998 Hawkwind In Your Area >2000 SpaceBrock I'm not sure if I'd count SpaceBrock, since Jerry Richards & Richard Chadwick aren't on it. At least Huw and Martin are on a track or two of 'Church of Hawkwind'. 2002 Hawkwind Family Tree (includes one new studio track with Brock/Davey/Chadwick) Also, the vinyl version of 'The Business Trip', the Griffin '25 Years' box, and the 'Ambient Anarchists' compilation each includes one new (at the time), but fairly inconsequential, studio track. >>Also if anyone wants to attempt a rating, e.g. 1 to 5, for these albums >>I'd be interested to hear peoples views. This is entirely subjective, but I'll express my personal views. Keep in mind that rating a Hawkwind album as "1" on a list of Hawkwind albums would still probably be a rating of "5" on a list of every album I've ever heard ... (but it wouldn't be fair to list ratings for Hawkwind albums without using a value of "1" for my least-favorites, although I see I could still only come up with a couple 1's or 2's). 4 1970 Hawkwind 5 1971 In Search of Space 5 1972 Doremi Fasol Latido 5 1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill 5 1975 Warrior on the Edge of Time 4 1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music 5 1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm 4 1978 25 Years On 4 1979 PXR5 3 1980 Levitation 3 1981 Sonic Attack 2 1982 Church of Hawkwind 3 1982 Choose Your Masques 1 1983 Zones 3 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword 1 1987 Out & Intake 2 1988 Xenon Codex 4 1989 Palace Springs 3 1990 Space Bandits 3 1992 Electric Tepee 1 1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous - 1994 Psychedelic Warriors/White Zone (don't own) 4 1995 Alien 4 4 1997 Distant Horizons 3 1998 Hawkwind In Your Area 1 2002 Hawkwind Family Tree I'm sure that others will have different views ... -Doug (just back from Germany ... ) jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jul 14 19:48:21 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:48:21 -0400 Subject: FW: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:01:24 -0400, Nick Medford wrote: >>John wrote - >>> Zones seems to contain a lot of tracks from other albums, e.g. >>> >>>Motorway City >>>Utopia >>>Sonic Attack >>>Dream Worker >>>Brainstorm >>> >>>I'm not clear where it stands, I must admit I had assumed it was a live >>>album as the sound quality isn't very good. > >Side 1 is studio, side 2 is live. Isn't most of Side 1 from the same gig as the first LP of 'This Is Hawkwind/Do Not Panic' (and "Master of the Universe" from 'Anthology'/'Acid Daze')? All with Ginger Baker & Keith Hale ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 15 00:02:58 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:02:58 -0400 Subject: FW: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:48:21 -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: >> >>Side 1 is studio, side 2 is live. > >Isn't most of Side 1 from the same gig as the first LP of 'This Is >Hawkwind/Do Not Panic' (and "Master of the Universe" >from 'Anthology'/'Acid Daze')? All with Ginger Baker & Keith Hale ... > > -Doug Ah yes... you are correct as ever... I should have said *some* of side 1 is studio. But the strange thing is- I have heard it whispered that albums don't have sides any more. What can it mean? Nick From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 15 00:26:06 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:26:06 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:41:54 -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: > >1989 Palace Springs (2 studio tracks, "Treadmill" & "Back in the Box"?) Official line is that they are (ahem) live with studio overdubs. >Also, the vinyl version of 'The Business Trip', the Griffin '25 Years' >box, and the 'Ambient Anarchists' compilation each includes one new (at >the time), but fairly inconsequential, studio track. What's the one on the Business Trip vinyl? My version of that album is one of those little silver things that have No Sides. > >>>Also if anyone wants to attempt a rating, e.g. 1 to 5, for these albums >>>I'd be interested to hear peoples views. > >This is entirely subjective Surely not! In contrast, *my* opinions, presented below, are Objective Verifiable Facts. Oh yes they are!! , but I'll express my personal views. Keep in >mind that rating a Hawkwind album as "1" on a list of Hawkwind albums >would still probably be a rating of "5" on a list of every album I've ever >heard ... (but it wouldn't be fair to list ratings for Hawkwind albums >without using a value of "1" for my least-favorites, although I see I >could still only come up with a couple 1's or 2's). Good idea, this is a quick and relatively painless way of doing it. So here goes: 3 1970 Hawkwind 4 1971 In Search of Space 5 1972 Doremi Fasol Latido 5 1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill 5 1975 Warrior on the Edge of Time 3 1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music 5 1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm 4 1978 25 Years On 5 1979 PXR5 3 1980 Levitation 3 1981 Sonic Attack 2 1982 Church of Hawkwind 3 1982 Choose Your Masques 3 1983 Zones 4 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword 3 1987 Out & Intake 2 1988 Xenon Codex 5 1989 Palace Springs 1 1990 Space Bandits 4 1992 Electric Tepee 3 1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous 2 1994 Psychedelic Warriors/White Zone 2 1995 Alien 4 3 1997 Distant Horizons 3 1998 Hawkwind In Your Area 1 2002 Hawkwind Family Tree (10 1973 Space Ritual) >I'm sure that others will have different views ... Not "views", Doug, but Objective Verifiable Facts. Nick From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 15 00:35:32 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:35:32 +0800 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Half of it is live, & half is studio. Out & Intake is another that should be on the list. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rennie" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:02 AM Subject: FW: HW: List of studio albums > Zones seems to contain a lot of tracks from other albums, e.g. > > Motorway City > Utopia > Sonic Attack > Dream Worker > Brainstorm > > I'm not clear where it stands, I must admit I had assumed it was a live > album as the sound quality isn't very good. > > JR > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of m.j.crook at TALK21.COM > Sent: 14 July 2003 19:50 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > > > Zones? > > > > Dave Law writes: > > > > >1970 Hawkwind > > >1971 In Search of Space > > >1972 Doremi Fasol Latido > > >1973 Space Ritual > > >1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill > > >1975 Warrier on the Edge of Time > > >1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > > >1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm > > >1978 25 Years On > > >1979 PXR5 > > >1980 Levitation > > >1982 Church of Hawkwind > > >1988 Xenon Codex > > >1990 Space Bandits > > >1992 Electric Tepee > > >1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > > >1995 Alien 4 > > >1997 Distant Horizons > > > >1981 Sonic Attack > >1982 Choose Your Masques > >1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at > http://www.talk21.com > From AgentOF at AOL.COM Tue Jul 15 07:02:43 2003 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (AgentOF at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:02:43 EDT Subject: BOC: last night's tv Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/2003 3:36:37 PM Central Daylight Time, charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET writes: > Then at the end they played the song again as the credits rolled. > > It's a different guitar solo, too. Permission was asked to play a less conspicuous part of the song and they took the liberty of dubbing in the entire solo! From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Jul 15 12:19:30 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:19:30 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Here ya go (no sides): Zones ----- Tracks 1.2.3 at Battle Studios, Hastins/December 1980 Tracks 4.5 at Lewisham Odeon, London/18th December 1980 Tracks 6.7.8.9.10 at Bristol, Colston Hall/30th October 1982 1-3 are Zones, Dangerous Vision, Running Through the Back Brain. 4-5 are The Island, Motorway City. 6-10 are Utopia 84, Social Alliance, Sonic Attack, Dream Worker, Brainstorm. This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic ------------------------------ Recorded tracks 1-7 at Lewisham Odeon, London - 18th December 1980 Tracks 8&9 at Stonehenge Free Festival - 20th & 21st June 1984 1-7 are Psy Power, Levitation, Circles, Space Chase, Death Trap, Angels of Death, Shot Down in the Night. 8 is Stonehenge Decoded. 9 is Watching the Grass Grow. 9 would be from the main set on the 20th, 8 from the Stonehenge at Dawn/Earth Ritual Improv set on the 21st. Stephan From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Tue Jul 15 16:24:36 2003 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:24:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Interesting US concerts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Forwarded from another list: Emperor Jones presents: From Austin to you- Primordial Undermind, ST37, and Bahrain on tour this summer - mark those calendars Date City Venue Primordial + ST37: Sat. 7/26 Houston,TX Rudyards w/Linus Pauling Quartet Sun. 7/27 Jackson,MS Robert Arender's BBQ Party Mon. 7/28 Nashville,TN Springwater w/Meatwagons Tue. 7/29 Chapel Hill,NC Nightlight w/Robot vs Rabbit Wed. 7/30 Baltimore,MD Talking Head Club w/420 Sphinx BC Thu. 7/31 Philadelphia,PA Khyber w/Bardo Pond Fri. 8/1 Brooklyn,NY Luxx w/Suntanama Sat. 8/2 Providence,RI AS220 w/Barnacled Sun. 8/3 Boston,MA Choppin Block w/In/Out,9Volt Gimmick Tue. 8/5 Portland,ME Geno's w/the Ponys Wed. 8/6 Brattleboro,VT Common Ground w/Elevator Tribe Thu. 8/7 Rochester,NY Bug Jar w/Pengo Fri. 8/8 Cleveland,IH Beachland w/Fuzzhead, Tachyon Lane Primordial + Bahrain: Sat. 8/9 Detroit,MI Lager House w/Paik, Larval Mon. 8/11 Chicago,IL EmptyBottle w/Plastic Crimewave Sound Tues. 8/12 St. Louis,MO LNAC w/Julia Sets, Tone Rodent Weds. 8/13 Lawrence,KS Jazzhaus Thu. 8/14 Fort Worth,TX Wreck Room Primordial + ST37 + Bahrain: Sat. 8/16 Austin,TX Beerland For more info on these bands, check out: http://www.cameraobscura.com.au/Bios/cambios_pu.htm http://www.scaruffi.com/vol5/primordi.html http://www.st37.com http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/434/st_37.html http://www.geocities.com/bahrainrock/index.html From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jul 15 16:31:03 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:31:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Interesting US concerts In-Reply-To: <3F146304.5030905@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: Thanks Jerry! I'll be at this one for sure. > Date City Venue > Primordial + ST37: > Thu. 8/7 Rochester,NY Bug Jar w/Pengo From dplaw at IC24.NET Wed Jul 16 00:32:35 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:32:35 -0400 Subject: HW - on the radio again Message-ID: whilst listening to radio 2 last night at approximately 01.15, DJ Janice Long played silver machine, cool i thought, i wonder what she'll say after the song. well after acknowledging the song and artist she then said words to the effect of "you know what i've just got my passport for the hawkwind convention", i assume she's talking about hawkfest, but are we to presume that as well as Matthew Wright we now have a second national radio DJ attending - things could be looking up! you can contact her show direct by clicking on http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/long/contact.shtml so why not drop her a line and request some more hawkwind, if enough of us e-mail the show (i've done so already) then at least we must have a chance of getting the band mentioned and hopefully a further plug for the fest. the show goes out nightly between midnight and 03.00 bst regards dave From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Wed Jul 16 01:43:27 2003 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:43:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Has anyone heard "Hawkbites"? Message-ID: Has anyone heard of a bootleg Hawkwind album called "Hawkbites Live n Rare" or some variation on that? A friend has just sent me what claims to be a Hawkwind album of that title. The track listing is: 1 - Uncle Sams On Mars 2 - Spirit Of The Age 3 - Steppenwolf 4 - Brainstorm 5 - Urban Guerrila 6 - Nuclear Toy 7 - Golden Void 8 - The Right Stuff 9 - Social Disease 10 - We Like To Be Frightened 11 - Lord Of The Hornets 12 - Hurry On Sundown I don't recognise the Hawkwind recordings. They seem to be studio/demo rather than live but they're different to the versions on the released albums. The two Calvert tracks 10 and 11 I can't comment on as I haven't heard the originals. The track "Social Disease" I've never heard of though it sounds like Calvert on vocals. JR From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 16 11:54:29 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:54:29 -0400 Subject: HW: Has anyone heard "Hawkbites"? Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 06:43:27 +0100, John Rennie wrote: >Has anyone heard of a bootleg Hawkwind album called "Hawkbites Live n Rare" >or some variation on that? Nope, but... >The track "Social Disease" I've never heard of though >it sounds like Calvert on vocals. My guess is that this is actually "Evil Rock", from Calvert's solo album "Hype"... since this contains the line "...hair down to his knees/he looks like he's suffering from a social disease". Also has a sax solo by Nik Turner, FWIW. Nick From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jul 16 12:18:02 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:18:02 -0400 Subject: HW: Has anyone heard "Hawkbites"? In-Reply-To: <000001c34b5d$2ea6f040$137f92d9@rattus>; from hawkfan@RATSAUCE.CO.UK on Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 06:43:27AM +0100 Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 06:43:27AM +0100, John Rennie wrote: > The track "Social Disease" I've never heard of though > it sounds like Calvert on vocals. The phrase shows up in "Evil Rock" (as in, rock music) -- which, like the other two Calvert songs, is from "Hype". Could that be it? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Wed Jul 16 14:28:36 2003 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:28:36 +0100 Subject: FW: HW: Has anyone heard "Hawkbites"? Message-ID: Nick/Eric, You're right, having just listened to the track again it does contain the line you mention. I'll have to try and find the original so I can see if this is just a compilation or a new version. The Hawkwind tracks are definitely different to the studio albums. JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Eric Siegerman Sent: 16 July 2003 17:18 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Has anyone heard "Hawkbites"? On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 06:43:27AM +0100, John Rennie wrote: > The track "Social Disease" I've never heard of though > it sounds like Calvert on vocals. The phrase shows up in "Evil Rock" (as in, rock music) -- which, like the other two Calvert songs, is from "Hype". Could that be it? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From Farflung at COMCAST.NET Wed Jul 16 22:47:41 2003 From: Farflung at COMCAST.NET (DRider) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 22:47:41 -0400 Subject: Nik w/ Spaceseed Message-ID: I have a jpeg of the flyer for the September shows of Nik Turner w/ Spaceceed I can not send it to the list so if anyone wants it for future CD covers or whatever (it looks really cool ") please email me offlist and I will pass it on UnKle NIK - Back On The Streets D From dplaw at IC24.NET Thu Jul 17 00:38:20 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:38:20 -0400 Subject: HW - on the radio again (well done folks) Message-ID: just a quick update, i presume a few of you took my lead and dropped janice long an e-mail as she made a point of mentioning the big pile of correspondance she had recieved after playing hawkwind last night. she said she would dig out some more in the near future so a few more messages to her by way of a reminder would be a good idea. she also mentioned that she was hoping to attend hawkfest as long as her and her hubby (or partner!) could sort some stuff out, so if you want to drop her another line the e-mail is - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/long/contact.shtml i reckon seeing as tomorrow (friday) marks 3 weeks to go to hawkfest (hooray)how about as many people as poss e-mail radio 1's mark and lard show to try and get a mention on there, suggest you make any message as daft and humorous as possible, it's probably the best tact with these 2, to send them a message the address is - mark.radcliffe at bbc.co.uk even if these people only play silver machine again it's still better than 99.999% of the drival you usually get on the radio regards dave From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Thu Jul 17 07:41:30 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:41:30 +0200 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Hey folks...just to contribute to *something* around here... >but I'll express my personal views. Keep in >mind that rating a Hawkwind album as "1" on a list of Hawkwind albums >would still probably be a rating of "5" on a list of every album I've ever >heard ... (but it wouldn't be fair to list ratings for Hawkwind albums >without using a value of "1" for my least-favorites, although I see I >could still only come up with a couple 1's or 2's). Good idea, this is a quick and relatively painless way of doing it. So here goes: ----------------- following the above... 3 1970 Hawkwind 3 1971 In Search of Space 4 1972 Doremi Fasol Latido 4 1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill 5 1975 Warrior on the Edge of Time 4 1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music 5 1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm 3 1978 25 Years On 4 1979 PXR5 5 1980 Levitation 3 1981 Sonic Attack 3 1982 Church of Hawkwind 3 1982 Choose Your Masques 2 1983 Zones 3 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword 2 1987 Out & Intake 3 1988 Xenon Codex 4 1989 Palace Springs 3 1990 Space Bandits 4 1992 Electric Tepee 2 1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous 1 1994 Psychedelic Warriors/White Zone 3 1995 Alien 4 3 1997 Distant Horizons 3 1998 Hawkwind In Your Area Splunge! 2003 New Album (5 1973 Space Ritual) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Anybody else going to see Nektar in Germany (Burg Herzberg) Saturday night? (and Man, Caravan, etc.) P.P.S. Ka-Spel and Silverman are doing a tour of the US soon...the 'new' Gong with Acid Mothers' folk and Josh Pollock have a date planned in London (Oct. 21) which should launch a tour (of some sort) to follow. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 17 08:52:51 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:52:51 +0100 Subject: Mark and Lard Alien Kidnap Shock! Message-ID: Well, it's worth a shot... ---- Start of forwarded text ---- > From: M Holmes > Subject: Mark and Lard Alien Kidnap Shock! > To: mark.radcliffe at bbc.co.uk > Terran Times 12.23 BST 17/7/2003 > > Today's surprise news is that famous radio personalities Mark Radcliffe > and Boy Lard have been kidnapped by aliens. Officials at Britain's new > Space Centre near Manchester were stunned today to receive a message > from a General Spiff of the planet Zarg. The General stated that the > BBC Two had been abducted and replaced by Pod People in accordance with > the plans of the Alien Scout Fleet. These plans call for a song "Silver > Machine" by a beat combo known as "Hawkwind" to be played daily on the > radio until the surrender of planet Earth or Extreme Ironing's > acceptance as an Olympic sport, whichever happens first. Apparently due > to its distance from Earth and the speed of light, planet Zarg is > currently enjoying Silver Machine's heyday as a chart hit from 1972 and > Zargians describe it as "The best thing since sliced ptffgrdt!" > > General Spiff stated that if Zargian demands are met, the hapless duo > would be released unharmed at the Hawkwind Festival near Blackpool in > Early August. > > > -- Yer 'umble correspondant: Disgusted From Tunbridge Wells. > ---- End of forwarded text ---- From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 17 09:47:07 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:47:07 +0000 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Obviously everyone's opinion is different, but I bet if everyone voted on one album, WOTEOT would receive the most votes. I love In Search of Space, Space Ritual, WOTEOT & QS&C, but I think that one is a classic. Agreed? Eddie. >From: Henderson Keith >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:41:30 +0200 > >Hey folks...just to contribute to *something* around here... > > >but I'll express my personal views. Keep in > >mind that rating a Hawkwind album as "1" on a list of Hawkwind albums > >would still probably be a rating of "5" on a list of every album I've >ever > >heard ... (but it wouldn't be fair to list ratings for Hawkwind albums > >without using a value of "1" for my least-favorites, although I see I > >could still only come up with a couple 1's or 2's). > >Good idea, this is a quick and relatively painless way of doing it. So here >goes: >----------------- >following the above... > >3 1970 Hawkwind >3 1971 In Search of Space >4 1972 Doremi Fasol Latido >4 1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill >5 1975 Warrior on the Edge of Time >4 1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music >5 1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm >3 1978 25 Years On >4 1979 PXR5 >5 1980 Levitation >3 1981 Sonic Attack >3 1982 Church of Hawkwind >3 1982 Choose Your Masques >2 1983 Zones >3 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword >2 1987 Out & Intake >3 1988 Xenon Codex >4 1989 Palace Springs >3 1990 Space Bandits >4 1992 Electric Tepee >2 1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous >1 1994 Psychedelic Warriors/White Zone >3 1995 Alien 4 >3 1997 Distant Horizons >3 1998 Hawkwind In Your Area >Splunge! 2003 New Album > >(5 1973 Space Ritual) > >Grakkl (FAA) > >P.S. Anybody else going to see Nektar in Germany (Burg Herzberg) >Saturday night? (and Man, Caravan, etc.) > >P.P.S. Ka-Spel and Silverman are doing a tour of the US >soon...the 'new' Gong with Acid Mothers' folk and Josh >Pollock have a date planned in London (Oct. 21) which should >launch a tour (of some sort) to follow. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK Thu Jul 17 14:11:18 2003 From: hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK (John Rennie) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:11:18 +0100 Subject: FW: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: >but I bet if everyone voted on one album, WOTEOT would receive the most votes Possibly, but it wouldn't receive mine! It has some absolutely classic tracks, but for me it's spoilt by the stupid Moorcockesque ramblings. Even at age 14 when the album was released I thought they were a bit puerile, and now I'm 42 I find them positively embarrassing. Of the early period Doremi Fasol Latido is my favourite. It's consistently good from start to finish with not a duff track on it. Of the Charisma albums Quark Strangeness and Charm, Hawklords and PXR5 all vie for being my favourite. Post Calvert I don't think Hawkwind ever regained the heights, though I find myself listening to Alien 4 quite a lot at the moment. JR -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of eddie jobson Sent: 17 July 2003 14:47 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums Obviously everyone's opinion is different, but I bet if everyone voted on one album, WOTEOT would receive the most votes. I love In Search of Space, Space Ritual, WOTEOT & QS&C, but I think that one is a classic. Agreed? Eddie. >From: Henderson Keith >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:41:30 +0200 > >Hey folks...just to contribute to *something* around here... > > >but I'll express my personal views. Keep in > >mind that rating a Hawkwind album as "1" on a list of Hawkwind albums > >would still probably be a rating of "5" on a list of every album I've >ever > >heard ... (but it wouldn't be fair to list ratings for Hawkwind albums > >without using a value of "1" for my least-favorites, although I see I > >could still only come up with a couple 1's or 2's). > >Good idea, this is a quick and relatively painless way of doing it. So here >goes: >----------------- >following the above... > >3 1970 Hawkwind >3 1971 In Search of Space >4 1972 Doremi Fasol Latido >4 1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill >5 1975 Warrior on the Edge of Time >4 1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music >5 1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm >3 1978 25 Years On >4 1979 PXR5 >5 1980 Levitation >3 1981 Sonic Attack >3 1982 Church of Hawkwind >3 1982 Choose Your Masques >2 1983 Zones >3 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword >2 1987 Out & Intake >3 1988 Xenon Codex >4 1989 Palace Springs >3 1990 Space Bandits >4 1992 Electric Tepee >2 1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous >1 1994 Psychedelic Warriors/White Zone >3 1995 Alien 4 >3 1997 Distant Horizons >3 1998 Hawkwind In Your Area >Splunge! 2003 New Album > >(5 1973 Space Ritual) > >Grakkl (FAA) > >P.S. Anybody else going to see Nektar in Germany (Burg Herzberg) >Saturday night? (and Man, Caravan, etc.) > >P.P.S. Ka-Spel and Silverman are doing a tour of the US >soon...the 'new' Gong with Acid Mothers' folk and Josh >Pollock have a date planned in London (Oct. 21) which should >launch a tour (of some sort) to follow. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Jul 17 14:29:40 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 02:29:40 +0800 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: I rather liked the Mighael Moorcock bits on the album. When I first heard the album, I hadn't heard anything quite like it on an album (Moorcock would do a great job doing Dalek voices!!!). The best narrated track though is probably the one by Nik. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rennie" To: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:11 AM Subject: FW: HW: List of studio albums > >but I bet if everyone voted on one album, WOTEOT would receive the most > votes > > Possibly, but it wouldn't receive mine! It has some absolutely classic > tracks, but for me it's spoilt by the stupid Moorcockesque ramblings. Even > at age 14 when the album was released I thought they were a bit puerile, and > now I'm 42 I find them positively embarrassing. > > Of the early period Doremi Fasol Latido is my favourite. It's consistently > good from start to finish with not a duff track on it. Of the Charisma > albums Quark Strangeness and Charm, Hawklords and PXR5 all vie for being my > favourite. Post Calvert I don't think Hawkwind ever regained the heights, > though I find myself listening to Alien 4 quite a lot at the moment. > > JR > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of eddie jobson > Sent: 17 July 2003 14:47 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > > > Obviously everyone's opinion is different, but I bet if everyone voted on > one album, WOTEOT would receive the most votes. I love In Search of Space, > Space Ritual, WOTEOT & QS&C, but I think that one is a classic. Agreed? > > Eddie. > > > >From: Henderson Keith > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > >Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:41:30 +0200 > > > >Hey folks...just to contribute to *something* around here... > > > > >but I'll express my personal views. Keep in > > >mind that rating a Hawkwind album as "1" on a list of Hawkwind albums > > >would still probably be a rating of "5" on a list of every album I've > >ever > > >heard ... (but it wouldn't be fair to list ratings for Hawkwind albums > > >without using a value of "1" for my least-favorites, although I see I > > >could still only come up with a couple 1's or 2's). > > > >Good idea, this is a quick and relatively painless way of doing it. So here > >goes: > >----------------- > >following the above... > > > >3 1970 Hawkwind > >3 1971 In Search of Space > >4 1972 Doremi Fasol Latido > >4 1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill > >5 1975 Warrior on the Edge of Time > >4 1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music > >5 1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm > >3 1978 25 Years On > >4 1979 PXR5 > >5 1980 Levitation > >3 1981 Sonic Attack > >3 1982 Church of Hawkwind > >3 1982 Choose Your Masques > >2 1983 Zones > >3 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword > >2 1987 Out & Intake > >3 1988 Xenon Codex > >4 1989 Palace Springs > >3 1990 Space Bandits > >4 1992 Electric Tepee > >2 1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous > >1 1994 Psychedelic Warriors/White Zone > >3 1995 Alien 4 > >3 1997 Distant Horizons > >3 1998 Hawkwind In Your Area > >Splunge! 2003 New Album > > > >(5 1973 Space Ritual) > > > >Grakkl (FAA) > > > >P.S. Anybody else going to see Nektar in Germany (Burg Herzberg) > >Saturday night? (and Man, Caravan, etc.) > > > >P.P.S. Ka-Spel and Silverman are doing a tour of the US > >soon...the 'new' Gong with Acid Mothers' folk and Josh > >Pollock have a date planned in London (Oct. 21) which should > >launch a tour (of some sort) to follow. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile > From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Thu Jul 17 20:57:00 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:57:00 -0500 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: Interesting Links on Amazon here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCG/ref=sr_aps_music_1_2/202 -3128797-2794223 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCF/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_2/202-3 128797-2794223 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCH/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_1/202-3 128797-2794223 Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. Rich From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 17 15:18:19 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:18:19 +0100 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: very interesting..... how comes there has been no news from the hawkwind camp about this? i wonder if they will be remasted with additional tracks and artwork? cheers colm p.s. what is hawkwind - Oscillations ? saw it on amazon aswell, is it another bring the head.... cd? ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:57 AM Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > Interesting Links on Amazon here: > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCG/ref=sr_aps_music_1_2/202 > -3128797-2794223 > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCF/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_2/202-3 > 128797-2794223 > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCH/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_1/202-3 > 128797-2794223 > > Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. > > > Rich > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Jul 17 15:21:40 2003 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:21:40 -0500 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) In-Reply-To: <000901c34cc7$7f41fde0$9b28353e@titan> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, cosmicdolphin wrote: :Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) : :Interesting Links on Amazon here: : :http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCG/ref=sr_aps_music_1_2/202 :-3128797-2794223 : :http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCF/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_2/202-3 :128797-2794223 : :http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCH/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_1/202-3 :128797-2794223 : :Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. no pxr5, I note. Still, it'd be fabulous to get QS&C back into print. ditto for warrior. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Farflung at COMCAST.NET Thu Jul 17 15:34:59 2003 From: Farflung at COMCAST.NET (DRider) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:34:59 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: 4 1970 Hawkwind 4 1971 In Search of Space 5 1972 Doremi Fasol Latido 5 1974 Hall of the Mountain Grill - masterpiece #1 5 1975 Warrior on the Edge of Time - masterpiece #2 3 1976 Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music 3 1977 Quark, Strangeness and Charm 4 1978 25 Years On 4 1979 PXR5 5 1980 Levitation - can't believe some of you don't like this one! 2 1981 Sonic Attack 2 1982 Church of Hawkwind 2 1982 Choose Your Masques - great cover art! 1983 Zones - should not be on this list - great cover art! 4 1985 Chronicle of the Black Sword 2.5 1987 Out & Intake 3 1988 Xenon Codex 1989 Palace Springs - should not be on this list / over-rated!! 3 1990 Space Bandits - great cover art - proudly on display in my living room 5 1992 Electric Tepee - best HW of the 1990's! 5 1993 It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous 3 1994 Psychedelic Warriors/White Zone 4 1995 Alien 4 -1 1997 Distant Horizons - pitiful! 2 1998 Hawkwind In Your Area 2 2002 Hawkwind Family Tree even the weaker releases have gems to behold many folks don't have a high regard for Space Bandits but there are a couple great songs on that one palace springs - too many studio manipulations cuts and fades ruin it for me Levitation is killer!! Peace, D From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jul 17 15:48:52 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:48:52 -0400 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:21:40 -0500, Arin Komins wrote: >On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, cosmicdolphin wrote: > >:Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) >: >:Interesting Links on Amazon here: [snip] >:Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. > >no pxr5, I note. Or Hawklords/25 Years On ... :^( (The only one missing from my collection, although I have 3 or 4 vinyl copies!) >Still, it'd be fabulous to get QS&C back into print. ditto for warrior. And hopefully, 'Warrior' will be more like the Griffin version (mastered from tape, with "Motorhead") than the Dojo one (mastered from vinyl, no bonus track). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Thu Jul 17 21:51:58 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:51:58 -0500 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: Well now Rob Looks Busy: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCE/ref=sr_aps_music_1_1/202 -3128797-2794223 From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Jul 17 16:05:43 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:05:43 -0400 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: Who's Rob? Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > Well now Rob Looks Busy: > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCE/ref=sr_aps_music_1_1/202 > -3128797-2794223 > From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Thu Jul 17 22:06:46 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:06:46 -0500 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage/Tim Blake Message-ID: >From Planetgong.co.uk: On the 28th of this month, EMI are releasing a compilation of Steve Hillage tracks, 'In the Light - An Introduction to Steve Hillage' I think it's called. All Stevie lovers out there will of course have all the material included on the CD, but there is one track to note. 'Shimmer', a Tim Blake/Steve Hillage colaboration and the B side of 1976's 'It's All Too Much' single, makes it's appearence on CD for the first time. Anyone know what the blake/hillage song sounds like? Any good? Rich W From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Thu Jul 17 22:11:05 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:11:05 -0500 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: Rob Ayling :-) The Man Behind Voiceprint: http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/history.php Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > Who's Rob? Cheers Stephe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cosmicdolphin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:51 PM > Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > > > > Well now Rob Looks Busy: > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCE/ref=sr_aps_music_1_1/202 > > -3128797-2794223 > > From youless at COX.NET Thu Jul 17 16:24:09 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:24:09 -0400 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: I've got the Dojo CD reissue of WOTEOT & it does have Motorhead as a bonus track - are there some that don't? We've been let down before with pre-release listings of HW albums appearing on sites like Amazon, and then the album never surfaces - like the Greasy Truckers CD, for example. I fervently hope that doesn't happen this time! Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:48:52 -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: >And hopefully, 'Warrior' will be more like the Griffin version (mastered >from tape, with "Motorhead") than the Dojo one (mastered from vinyl, no >bonus track). > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Jul 17 16:28:17 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:28:17 -0400 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: Thanks, I didn't know this. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > Rob Ayling :-) The Man Behind Voiceprint: > > http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/history.php > > Rich W > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:05 PM > Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > > > > Who's Rob? Cheers Stephe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "cosmicdolphin" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:51 PM > > Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > > > > > > > Well now Rob Looks Busy: > > > > > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCE/ref=sr_aps_music_1_1/202 > > > -3128797-2794223 > > > From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Thu Jul 17 22:52:05 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:52:05 -0500 Subject: HW: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: Yep my Dojo copy of woteot used to have Motorhead as the bonus. You never can tell with Amazon a co they often jump the gun :-) Fingers Crossed. Rich From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Thu Jul 17 22:59:15 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:59:15 -0500 Subject: HW: Calvert Reissues - Bonus Tracks Message-ID: Now I feel like a Voiceprint Advert Looks like Voiceprint Finally Announced the Bonus Tracks for the Calvert Reissues, and the release date 4th August http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/catalogue.php/Release/929/ http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/catalogue.php/Release/1160/ Rich From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Jul 17 20:22:41 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 01:22:41 +0100 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: All I can say is that I'm surprised to see the entries for these on Amazon. I think a little phone call to someone might be in order first thing in the morning - there's something I need to find out - watch this space............ Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Youles" To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > I've got the Dojo CD reissue of WOTEOT & it does have Motorhead as a bonus > track - are there some that don't? > > We've been let down before with pre-release listings of HW albums appearing > on sites like Amazon, and then the album never surfaces - like the Greasy > Truckers CD, for example. I fervently hope that doesn't happen this time! > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:48:52 -0400, Doug Pearson > wrote: > > > > >And hopefully, 'Warrior' will be more like the Griffin version (mastered > >from tape, with "Motorhead") than the Dojo one (mastered from vinyl, no > >bonus track). > > > > -Doug > > jasret at mindspring.com From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 17 15:52:08 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:52:08 +0100 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: i always thought that the dojo warrior also had motorhead at a bonus track too? i'll go and check my copy.... cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:48 PM Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:21:40 -0500, Arin Komins > wrote: > > >On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, cosmicdolphin wrote: > > > >:Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > >: > >:Interesting Links on Amazon here: > > [snip] > > >:Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. > > > >no pxr5, I note. > > Or Hawklords/25 Years On ... :^( > (The only one missing from my collection, although I have 3 or 4 vinyl > copies!) > > >Still, it'd be fabulous to get QS&C back into print. ditto for warrior. > > And hopefully, 'Warrior' will be more like the Griffin version (mastered > from tape, with "Motorhead") than the Dojo one (mastered from vinyl, no > bonus track). > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Fri Jul 18 04:43:35 2003 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:43:35 +0100 Subject: HW : Tribute band ? Message-ID: Has anyone seen / heard of a HW 'tribute' band Dr Hasbeen ? I know Dave has used this as an alias, and as the above band are playing Derby the night before Pentrich, I am intrigued as to whether DH are a tribute, or maybe the real McCoy...? Cheers Neil. Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44(0)1773 537000 From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Fri Jul 18 05:11:53 2003 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:11:53 +0100 Subject: off : Spirit of Brock - marvy!! Message-ID: http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue6/hasbeen.html From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Fri Jul 18 05:16:34 2003 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:16:34 +0200 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) ...pistols intervenes Message-ID: where were they in '78? ;-) ;-) http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000248D5/qid=1058519336/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_2_3/026-4068390-6934015 (hint: check track listing!) Ketil Svendsen currently listening to Kraftwerk's 'Robots'' =-) From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Fri Jul 18 11:33:48 2003 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:33:48 +1000 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Sorry to disagree but I think Hall of the Mountain Grill is a better album, with Warrior & Quark close on its heels. Could prove to be an interesting vote, though. One album only - THE BEST Obviously my vote goes to Hall of the Mountain Grill Allan Sharpe sharpies at idx.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "eddie jobson" To: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:47 PM Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > Obviously everyone's opinion is different, but I bet if everyone voted on > one album, WOTEOT would receive the most votes. I love In Search of Space, > Space Ritual, WOTEOT & QS&C, but I think that one is a classic. Agreed? > > Eddie. > From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Jul 18 11:36:22 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:36:22 -0400 Subject: HW ONE album only.. the best In-Reply-To: <000501c34d41$fc9f09c0$3402a6cb@default> Message-ID: Electric Teepee no Levitation no WOTEOT no this if futile LOL ok ok ok Electric Teepee ______________________________________________ The people I distrust most are those who want to improve our lives but have only one course of action. -- Frank Herbert > From CWarburton at OAG.COM Fri Jul 18 12:41:20 2003 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (CWarburton at OAG.COM) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:41:20 +0100 Subject: Hw:Adverising fame memorialised Message-ID: http://www.uktvadverts.com/Adverts/Search.aspx?tab=2&search=Hawkwind&using=a ny&ctx=-1&cat=-1&tr=-1 & http://www.uktvadverts.com/Adverts/Adverts.aspx?artist=1197 From senator at GROAT.UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Fri Jul 18 12:45:31 2003 From: senator at GROAT.UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:45:31 -0700 Subject: DOJO Warrior CD In-Reply-To: <200307141413.h6EEDYgL027657@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> from "M Holmes" at Jul 14, 2003 03:13:34 PM Message-ID: Yep, "Motorhead" is alos a bonus track on the DOJO release. Bill From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Jul 18 14:12:26 2003 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (King of Speed) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:12:26 -0400 Subject: DOJO Warrior CD Message-ID: The Dojo and Griffin Warriors have 2 slightly different versions of Kings of Speed. They mostly sound the same but are different edits as far as I can make out - one has a longer instrumental break in the middle but maybe makes up for it later - don't remember exactly anymore. Stephan From drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jul 18 14:54:16 2003 From: drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM (David Blair) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:54:16 +0100 Subject: Matthew Wright again Message-ID: On The Wright Stuff this morning, Matthew Wright said he's off to Devon this weekend to record his first single - with Hawkwind. Maybe they can debut it on his show? -- David Blair From Farflung at COMCAST.NET Fri Jul 18 16:25:59 2003 From: Farflung at COMCAST.NET (DRider) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:25:59 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: I have to say that WOTEOT would get my vote. However, for me Kings of Speed does not go w/ the rest or the songs. There's this beautiful progressive rock masterpiece that is like a great ride and as you exit to the right it becomes time for a few bennies for the way home. A single tacked on at the end? IMHO - Hall of The Mountain Grill is more consistent from beginning to end and tied w/ WOTEOT YMMV D -----Original Message----- From: John Rennie [mailto:hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK] >but I bet if everyone voted on one album, WOTEOT would receive the most votes Possibly, but it wouldn't receive mine! It has some absolutely classic tracks, but for me it's spoilt by the stupid Moorcockesque ramblings. Even at age 14 when the album was released I thought they were a bit puerile, and now I'm 42 I find them positively embarrassing. From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Jul 18 17:24:08 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 22:24:08 +0100 Subject: List of studio albums Message-ID: WOTEOT is a great album even with the dodgy spoken words bits. But the best in my opinion is QS+C. The main reason why being Damnation Alley! colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "DRider" To: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:25 PM Subject: HW: List of studio albums > I have to say that WOTEOT would get my vote. However, for me Kings of Speed > does not go w/ the rest or the songs. There's this beautiful progressive > rock masterpiece that is like a great ride and as you exit to the right it > becomes time for a few bennies for the way home. > > A single tacked on at the end? > > IMHO - Hall of The Mountain Grill is more consistent from beginning to end > and tied w/ WOTEOT > > YMMV > > D > -----Original Message----- > From: John Rennie [mailto:hawkfan at RATSAUCE.CO.UK] > > >but I bet if everyone voted on one album, WOTEOT would receive the most > votes > > Possibly, but it wouldn't receive mine! It has some absolutely classic > tracks, but for me it's spoilt by the stupid Moorcockesque ramblings. Even > at age 14 when the album was released I thought they were a bit puerile, and > now I'm 42 I find them positively embarrassing. > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri Jul 18 19:25:16 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:25:16 +0100 Subject: Tribute band ? Message-ID: Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are heavily influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is currently guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD Services - those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered By Beer". Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. Andy G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Shilladay" To: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:43 AM Subject: HW : Tribute band ? > Has anyone seen / heard of a HW 'tribute' band Dr Hasbeen ? > > I know Dave has used this as an alias, and as the above band are playing > Derby the night before Pentrich, I am intrigued as to whether DH are a > tribute, or maybe the real McCoy...? > > Cheers > Neil. > > Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. > Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. > > If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. > > Microlise Group Limited +44(0)1773 537000 From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri Jul 18 19:32:09 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:32:09 +0100 Subject: HW: "Complete Set" / Lake Shore Records Message-ID: Available now - but turned into a bit of a travesty. We were led to think it would be a box set, but all it consists of are the two books and the CD shrink-wrapped with a band across the front,so unless you are the most avid collector, then not really worth it.Unless you haven't got the books or the CD or all three,in which case it might well be. Anyway, we've got some in if anyone's interested. Also, if anyone's interested, altho it will be expensive I warn you, we can get three copies only of the Motorhead "Iron Mask" CD issue - same size as the Hawkwind "shield" - as on the first M'head album cover. Bloody heavy thing to ship so estimate is about ?50+ - anyone interested should mail me at: agcdser at aol.com That's another for now, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Sharpe" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: Re: HW: "Complete Set" / Lake Shore Records > Andy, > > Can you please announce when available? > > Thanks > > Allan Sharpe > sharpies at idx.com.au > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Garibaldi" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:14 PM > Subject: Re: HW: "Complete Set" / Lake Shore Records > > > > Almost certainly it is the "Never Ending Story" reissue of the book plus > CD > > that we hope to have in here at CD Services within a couple of weeks time > > for anyone this side (or that side) of the pond that wants it. > > BTW - if you see advertised Hawkwind - Obsessions - it is YET ANOTHER Dave > > Anderson reissue license job so be warned. > > Andy G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eric Siegerman" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:11 PM > > Subject: HW: "Complete Set" / Lake Shore Records > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 12:40:21PM -0500, Great Sun Quester wrote: > > > > Hawkwind : Complete Set > > > > Lake Shore Records > > > > Book & CD > > > > Anyone have a clue what the HW release is? A quick web-search turns up > > nada. > > > > > > A search on Lake Shore Records turned up: > > > - a Madonna compilation, with a book > > > - a Led Zep compilation, with a book > > > - an Elvis compilation, with a book > > > Hmmm, there does seem to be a pattern emerging :-) > > > > > > Also: > > > - Queens of the Stone Age - "Queens of the Stone Age" -- which > > > Amazon says is on Loose Groove Records! > > > > > > - A Rocky Horror CD, panned here: > > > http://www.rockymusic.org/cds/toronto.html > > > > > > - no official Internet presence that I could find > > > > > > Judging by all that, but especially by the RHPS review, it looks > > > like another dodgy comp. Out of Toronto this time, it shames me > > > to say. > > > > > > Oh yeah, LSR also has no listing in the Toronto phone book. Nor > > > is there one for Audio Visual Concepts, where the RHS CD was > > > "Produced, engineered, mixed and digitally recorded by Michael > > > White". (Long and McQuades is for real, but they're just a big > > > music store -- instruments and studio gear, that is, not CDs. No > > > reason to assume any non-arms-length involvement there.) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > | | /\ > > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > > | | / > > > A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, > > > because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. > > > - Leslie Lamport > > From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 19 00:13:44 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:13:44 -0400 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:33:48 +1000, Allan Sharpe wrote: >Sorry to disagree but I think Hall of the Mountain Grill is a better album, >with Warrior & Quark close on its heels. > >Could prove to be an interesting vote, though. > >One album only - THE BEST > >Obviously my vote goes to Hall of the Mountain Grill If we're talking studio albums only, then I'd vote for "Hall..." too. Except that if we're going to be really picky, it doesn't qualify, as two tracks (You Better Believe It and Paradox, probably my two favourite songs on the album) are live. In which case I'd go for "Quark". Nick From dplaw at IC24.NET Sat Jul 19 01:23:11 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:23:11 -0400 Subject: Matthew Wright again Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:54:16 +0100, David Blair wrote: >On The Wright Stuff this morning, Matthew Wright said he's off to Devon >this weekend to record his first single - with Hawkwind. Maybe they can >debut it on his show? >-- >David Blair here, here to that, and well done once more to mr wright for once again giving the band some more promotion. list members may also be interested in a new page i have just posted, dedicated to DJ's with a shall we say "sympathetic" attitude when it comes to hawkwind, it's at http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwradio.htm feel free to suggest other "jocks" that could be added! regards dave From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Jul 19 02:41:35 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 02:41:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Automatic Music Tribute Special + Alchemical Radio show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (July 19, 2003): We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #83), which is an Automatic Music tribute special, and a new edition of Alchemical Radio (show #42). See the playlists below. The JULY issue of Aural Innovations should be online next weekend!!! Emperor Jones presents: From Austin to you - Primordial Undermind, ST37, and Bahrain on tour this summer Primordial + ST37: Sat. 7/26 Houston,TX, Rudyards: w/Linus Pauling Quartet Sun. 7/27 Jackson,MS, Robert Arender's BBQ Party Mon. 7/28, Nashville,TN, Springwater: w/Meatwagons Tue. 7/29, Chapel Hill,NC, Nightlight: w/Robot vs Rabbit Wed. 7/30, Baltimore,MD, Talking Head Club: w/420 Sphinx BC Thu. 7/31, Philadelphia,PA, Khyber: w/Bardo Pond Fri. 8/1, Brooklyn,NY, Luxx: w/Suntanama (8pm show) Sat. 8/2, Providence,RI, AS220: w/Barnacled Sun. 8/3, Boston,MA, Chopping Block: w/the In/Out, 9Volt Gimmick Tue. 8/5, Portland,ME, Geno's: w/the Ponys Wed. 8/6, Brattleboro,VT, Common Ground: w/Elevator Tribe Thu. 8/7, Rochester,NY, Bug Jar: w/Pengo Fri. 8/8, Cleveland,OH, Beachland: w/Fuzzhead, Tachyon Lane Primordial + Bahrain: Sat. 8/9, Detroit,MI, Lager House: w/Paik, Larval Mon. 8/11, Chicago,IL, Empty Bottle: w/Plastic Crimewave Sound Tues. 8/12, St. Louis,MO, LNAC: w/Julia Sets, Tone Rodent Weds. 8/13, Lawrence,KS, Jazzhaus Thu. 8/14, Fort Worth,TX, Wreck Room: w/Jetscreamer Primordial + ST37 + Bahrain: Sat. 8/16, Austin,TX, Beerland Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio: Automatic Music Tribute Special (show #83) Automatic Music is an all improvisational collective based in North Carolina. Their music is a killer glom of freaked out Krautrock jams, avant-garde free-improv, cosmic chaos, and Captain Beefheart meets Guru Guru in a seedy back alley fun. Open your mind, let your hair down, and come experience the deliciously raw trip fest that is Automatic Music. For more information you can visit the Szum Music web site at http://www.szum.com. Automatic Music - "Seduction Of The Inner Eye Awakening" (from Szumagumma) Automatic Music - "Snakenedrix, Attempt #1" (from Spiffy) Automatic Music - "Antediluvian Descent, Landing & Plateau" (from The Return Of King Harvest) Gentlemaniac - "Closure" (from Secrets Of The Megaliths) East October - "The Next Spring Then" (from Infinity... And Beyond) Automatic Music - "One" (from And In Arcadia I Am) Automatic Music - "Two" (from This Is Automatic Music) Tragic Bunny - "Losing Touch With My Mind" (from Szumagumma) Bret Hart + Jeff Mcleod - "Crisis Hammers" (from Dynamic Negativisim) Automatic Music - "Our Heavenly Bodies" (from Carnival Of Light) Automatic Music - "It's About Time, It's About Space" (from ...In A Dollhouse) Alchemical Radio (show #42) Alchemical Radio is hosted by Terri~B and the Reverend Rabbit from the Stone Premonitions label. The show features the best Progressive Rock, Psychedelia, Metal and Adventurous Pop music that the underground has to offer. Visit the Stone Premonitions web site at http://www.aural-innovations.com/stonepremonitions The Sweeney - "Billy The Human Bomb" The Thicket - "Canopy" Tygre Moth & The Invisible Gypsy Band - "Behind The Looking Glass" Typewriter - "Damned For Sure" Super Massive Object - "365" Will Thomas - "Tomorrow Will Be Like Yesterday" Yaya Diallo - "Nangape" Charles Rice Goff III - "Fishbowled Over" Superczar - "Reality Aroused" Romislokus - "Cool" Rolland White - "The Devil's Fire" Rick Ray - "Thought Invaders" Resin - "Only Here" Random Touch - "Metallic Atoms In A Cloud Of Gas" Purple Overdose - "Orange Journey" Polly Moller - "Tacit Blue" Peter Cooper - "International Criminal" So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. Also check out our mail order catalog for lots of Space Rock, Psychedelic and Electronic music CDs at http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Jul 19 03:41:06 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 08:41:06 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? :-) Cheers, Rich. > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are heavily > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is currently > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD Services - > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered By Beer". > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > Andy G From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jul 19 05:19:18 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:19:18 +0100 Subject: Matthew Wright again Message-ID: I was wondering cos i havent really heard much about this matthew wright before. Is this who you are talking about? http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jbenoit/interviewmw.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4318090,00.html http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,957563,00.html cheers colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Law" To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:23 AM Subject: Re: Matthew Wright again > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:54:16 +0100, David Blair > wrote: > > >On The Wright Stuff this morning, Matthew Wright said he's off to Devon > >this weekend to record his first single - with Hawkwind. Maybe they can > >debut it on his show? > >-- > >David Blair > > here, here to that, and well done once more to mr wright for once again > giving the band some more promotion. list members may also be interested > in a new page i have just posted, dedicated to DJ's with a shall we > say "sympathetic" attitude when it comes to hawkwind, it's at > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwradio.htm > feel free to suggest other "jocks" that could be added! > regards > dave > From drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jul 19 05:38:55 2003 From: drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM (David Blair) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:38:55 +0100 Subject: Matthew Wright again In-Reply-To: <003001c34dd6$d68d4b30$0d736751@IRONDREAM> Message-ID: In article <003001c34dd6$d68d4b30$0d736751 at IRONDREAM>, Colm McWilliams writes >I was wondering cos i havent really heard much about this matthew wright >before. Is this who you are talking about? > >http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jbenoit/interviewmw.html > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4318090,00.html > >http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,957563,00.html > >cheers > >colm Yes, that's him >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Law" >To: >Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:23 AM >Subject: Re: Matthew Wright again > > >> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:54:16 +0100, David Blair >> wrote: >> >> >On The Wright Stuff this morning, Matthew Wright said he's off to Devon >> >this weekend to record his first single - with Hawkwind. Maybe they can >> >debut it on his show? >> >-- >> >David Blair >> >> here, here to that, and well done once more to mr wright for once again >> giving the band some more promotion. list members may also be interested >> in a new page i have just posted, dedicated to DJ's with a shall we >> say "sympathetic" attitude when it comes to hawkwind, it's at >> http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwradio.htm >> feel free to suggest other "jocks" that could be added! >> regards >> dave Tommy Vance certainly used to be a big fan - dunno if he still is as I haven't heard him for ages, but I remember him saying sometime in the 80s that HW could make an album based on the London phone book and it would be fantastic) -- David Blair From sebastian at WELTON.DE Sat Jul 19 05:51:39 2003 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:51:39 +0200 Subject: Finkenbach Festival Message-ID: Dunno if this has been posted yet... Finkenbach Festival 2003 (http://www.finkenbach.de/) 25-26 July featuring: Freitag, 25. Juli ab 19.00 Uhr G?tz Widmann Mama Guitar (Japan) Rodgau Monotones (Hessen) Guru Guru Man (Wales) Samstag, 26. Juli ab 18.00 Uhr Ras Abraham & Roots Natty Congo (Jamaica) Mouvement Rapide (M?nchen) Musafir Damo Suzuki meets Tiere der Nacht feat. Gerd Dudek Groove Guerrilla (Mannheim) Sonntag, 27. Juli ab 11.00 Uhr Trommelpalast Also this Sunday here in Darmstadt you can see Nektar (http://www.nektarmusic.co.uk/introduction.htm) MfG / Best Regards Sebastian Welton sebastian at welton.de www.welton.de 0171 8880522 From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Sat Jul 19 05:49:17 2003 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:49:17 +0100 Subject: Matthew Wright again Message-ID: Perhaps they could call in John Leslie to do some backing vox?! Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Blair" To: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:54 PM Subject: Matthew Wright again > On The Wright Stuff this morning, Matthew Wright said he's off to Devon > this weekend to record his first single - with Hawkwind. Maybe they can > debut it on his show? > -- > David Blair > From sebastian at WELTON.DE Sat Jul 19 05:56:09 2003 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:56:09 +0200 Subject: Burg Herzburg Festival Message-ID: Dunno if this was posted as well.. 17-20 July Herzberg Festival near Wilhelmsthal/Eckardtshausen (http://www.thinkprogressive.de/index.html) TBC means to be confirmed Eric Burdon's Animals Ten Years After Vanilla Fudge Wishbone Ash Livin Blues Caravan Ritual Carvin Jones Tony Joe White Epitaph Nektar Adaro MAN She?s China Fehlfarben Freygang Neues Glas aus alten Scherben Trigon Sky?s Shadow Chicago Jazz Die Elenden Sofa Planet Elis Nyka Orange Star Sounds Orchestra Monastery Cornberg Festival 2003: TBC means to be confirmed Steve Gibbons Chris Spedding Mostly Autumn Tony Joe White Stan Webb?s Chicken Shack Birth Control Damo Suzuki Network Them Cosmic Banditos Embryo Jan Gerfast Ramses Stray MfG / Best Regards Sebastian Welton sebastian at welton.de www.welton.de 0171 8880522 From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jul 19 08:08:21 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:08:21 +0800 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: Quark is the best. It's no joke. It won't disapear in smoke..... Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Sharpe" To: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:33 PM Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > Sorry to disagree but I think Hall of the Mountain Grill is a better album, > with Warrior & Quark close on its heels. > > Could prove to be an interesting vote, though. > > One album only - THE BEST > > Obviously my vote goes to Hall of the Mountain Grill > Allan Sharpe > sharpies at idx.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "eddie jobson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:47 PM > Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > > > > Obviously everyone's opinion is different, but I bet if everyone voted on > > one album, WOTEOT would receive the most votes. I love In Search of Space, > > Space Ritual, WOTEOT & QS&C, but I think that one is a classic. Agreed? > > > > Eddie. > > > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sat Jul 19 16:43:18 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:43:18 +0100 Subject: HW: List of studio albums Message-ID: My vote - maybe unusually - has to go to "In Search Of Space" which is not only a great album without flaws, but in my opinion should be looked upon as "groundbreaking". To that point no album even remotely like this had ever been recorded, and this was the mark of a band who clearly knew there was a long trip ahead. It still holds up from start to finish to this day, more complete an album I feel personally, than the ones that followed, in terms of its balance between power and atmosphere and feeling. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 5:13 AM Subject: Re: HW: List of studio albums > On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:33:48 +1000, Allan Sharpe > wrote: > > >Sorry to disagree but I think Hall of the Mountain Grill is a better album, > >with Warrior & Quark close on its heels. > > > >Could prove to be an interesting vote, though. > > > >One album only - THE BEST > > > >Obviously my vote goes to Hall of the Mountain Grill > > If we're talking studio albums only, then I'd vote for "Hall..." too. > Except that if we're going to be really picky, it doesn't qualify, as two > tracks (You Better Believe It and Paradox, probably my two favourite songs > on the album) are live. In which case I'd go for "Quark". > > Nick From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sat Jul 19 16:43:57 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:43:57 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: Sorry? Have I missed something here? Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:41 AM Subject: Dr Hasbeen > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are heavily > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is currently > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD Services - > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered By Beer". > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > Andy G From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Sat Jul 19 17:17:13 2003 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:17:13 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: I think just look at Rich's email address. Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Garibaldi" To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:41 AM > Subject: Dr Hasbeen > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are heavily > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is > currently > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD Services - > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered By Beer". > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > Andy G > From drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jul 19 17:52:12 2003 From: drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM (David Blair) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 22:52:12 +0100 Subject: HW: "Complete Set" / Lake Shore Records In-Reply-To: <00d701c34d84$cfadc6c0$0d8c7ad5@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: In article <00d701c34d84$cfadc6c0$0d8c7ad5 at dial.pipex.com>, Andrew Garibaldi writes >Available now - but turned into a bit of a travesty. >We were led to think it would be a box set, but all it consists of are the >two books and the CD shrink-wrapped with a band across the front,so unless >you are the most avid collector, then not really worth it.Unless you haven't >got the books or the CD or all three,in which case it might well be. >Anyway, we've got some in if anyone's interested. Two books? I thought the original release of Never Ending Story only had one? >Also, if anyone's interested, altho it will be expensive I warn you, we can >get three copies only of the Motorhead "Iron Mask" CD issue - same size as >the Hawkwind "shield" - as on the first M'head album cover. Bloody heavy >thing to ship so estimate is about ?50+ - anyone interested should mail me >at: >agcdser at aol.com >That's another for now, >Andy G. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Allan Sharpe" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:59 PM >Subject: Re: HW: "Complete Set" / Lake Shore Records > > >> Andy, >> >> Can you please announce when available? >> >> Thanks >> >> Allan Sharpe >> sharpies at idx.com.au >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andrew Garibaldi" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:14 PM >> Subject: Re: HW: "Complete Set" / Lake Shore Records >> >> >> > Almost certainly it is the "Never Ending Story" reissue of the book plus >> CD >> > that we hope to have in here at CD Services within a couple of weeks >time >> > for anyone this side (or that side) of the pond that wants it. >> > BTW - if you see advertised Hawkwind - Obsessions - it is YET ANOTHER >Dave >> > Anderson reissue license job so be warned. >> > Andy G. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Eric Siegerman" >> > To: >> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:11 PM >> > Subject: HW: "Complete Set" / Lake Shore Records >> > >> > >> > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 12:40:21PM -0500, Great Sun Quester wrote: >> > > > Hawkwind : Complete Set >> > > > Lake Shore Records >> > > > Book & CD >> > > > Anyone have a clue what the HW release is? A quick web-search turns >up >> > nada. >> > > >> > > A search on Lake Shore Records turned up: >> > > - a Madonna compilation, with a book >> > > - a Led Zep compilation, with a book >> > > - an Elvis compilation, with a book >> > > Hmmm, there does seem to be a pattern emerging :-) >> > > >> > > Also: >> > > - Queens of the Stone Age - "Queens of the Stone Age" -- which >> > > Amazon says is on Loose Groove Records! >> > > >> > > - A Rocky Horror CD, panned here: >> > > http://www.rockymusic.org/cds/toronto.html >> > > >> > > - no official Internet presence that I could find >> > > >> > > Judging by all that, but especially by the RHPS review, it looks >> > > like another dodgy comp. Out of Toronto this time, it shames me >> > > to say. >> > > >> > > Oh yeah, LSR also has no listing in the Toronto phone book. Nor >> > > is there one for Audio Visual Concepts, where the RHS CD was >> > > "Produced, engineered, mixed and digitally recorded by Michael >> > > White". (Long and McQuades is for real, but they're just a big >> > > music store -- instruments and studio gear, that is, not CDs. No >> > > reason to assume any non-arms-length involvement there.) >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > | | /\ >> > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >> > > | | / >> > > A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, >> > > because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. >> > > - Leslie Lamport >> > -- David Blair From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 19 18:03:00 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:03:00 +0100 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: Hi, Interesting indeed; remember that any official news will be announced by us and will appear on Mission Control. Sometimes even apparently authoritative sources may not be correct:(. Colin Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:57 AM Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > Interesting Links on Amazon here: > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCG/ref=sr_aps_music_1_2/202 > -3128797-2794223 > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCF/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_2/202-3 > 128797-2794223 > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCH/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_1/202-3 > 128797-2794223 > > Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. > > > Rich > From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Sun Jul 20 00:18:10 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 23:18:10 -0500 Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) Message-ID: It's all a ploy I sexed up the amazon links to get more traffic on the list :-) Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > Hi, > > Interesting indeed; remember that any official news will be announced by us > and will appear on Mission Control. Sometimes even apparently authoritative > sources may not be correct:(. > > Colin > > Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any > legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. > Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of > valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your > own risk. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cosmicdolphin" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:57 AM > Subject: Very Interesting Amazon Links ;-) > > > > Interesting Links on Amazon here: > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCG/ref=sr_aps_music_1_2/202 > > -3128797-2794223 > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCF/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_2/202-3 > > 128797-2794223 > > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AEKCH/ref=pd_sim_pm_dp_1/202-3 > > 128797-2794223 > > > > Nothing on the Voiceprint website :-) So Who Knows. > > > > > > Rich > > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Jul 19 18:47:25 2003 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:47:25 -0500 Subject: HW: going to hawkfest? Message-ID: Hi folks, Who is going to the Hawkfest? (ie. who should I be on the lookout for ?) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Jul 20 04:07:16 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:07:16 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... :-) I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! Cheer, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen I think just look at Rich's email address. Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Garibaldi" To: Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:41 AM > Subject: Dr Hasbeen > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are heavily > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is > currently > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD Services - > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered By Beer". > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > Andy G > From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Sun Jul 20 09:37:17 2003 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:37:17 +0200 Subject: Warrior Box cited Message-ID: Hej, I just saw the Hawkwind Warrior Box with the book in a used store here in Copenhagen. 450 danish kroner ($68). Seems priced about the going rate, I guess.. scott ObCD- Garmarna- Guds Speilman From roger2002 at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 20 14:18:47 2003 From: roger2002 at RELMER.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Roger Elmer) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:18:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Gig archive idea Message-ID: Hi all - has anyone seen the amazing Yes gig archive website at http://forgottenyesterdays.com? Gig reviews, photos, memories etc down the ages, tour by tour...I'd love to see this happen for HW! Rog PS - thanks HW for making my 10th gig a superb one (Birmingham 28 May) From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Jul 20 16:54:48 2003 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:54:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: Anyone going to the Porcupine Tree / Opeth show in Chicago? Message-ID: Hiya - Just was wondering if anyone on the list might be going to the Porcupine Tree / Opeth show in Chicago on Friday, July 25th. http://www.victheatre.com/Page2.html I'll be there ... 2nd row center! Would be fun to meet any other list members in the area. Wrote to Arin Komins since I know she lives in Chicago but her next concert experience will be Hawkfest! Much better gig. :) Congrats again Arin and Rich on the nuptials. Karen From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Jul 20 17:07:23 2003 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:07:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: Anyone going to the Porcupine Tree / Opeth show in Chicago? In-Reply-To: <3F1B0198.2B28D3F2@execpc.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Karen Kusic wrote: :Subject: OFF: Anyone going to the Porcupine Tree / Opeth show in Chicago? : :Hiya - : :Just was wondering if anyone on the list might be going to the Porcupine :Tree / Opeth show in Chicago on Friday, July 25th. : :http://www.victheatre.com/Page2.html : :I'll be there ... 2nd row center! Would be fun to meet any other list :members in the area. : :Wrote to Arin Komins since I know she lives in Chicago but her next :concert experience will be Hawkfest! Much better gig. :) : :-) ...but as I mentioned to Karen in email, just because I'm not going to the gig doesn't mean I can't hang out with folks. So if you are coming into town for the concert, and have any spare time, drop me a line ;-) Thx, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Jul 20 19:12:34 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 00:12:34 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: Oh rite - thanks - between you and Colin, think I got carried away last night - maybe I should be....... Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... > > I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... > > :-) > > I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! > > Cheer, > > Rich. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Von Bargen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:17 PM > Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > > > I think just look at Rich's email address. > Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer > > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Garibaldi" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > > > > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > > Andy G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:41 AM > > Subject: Dr Hasbeen > > > > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are > heavily > > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is > > currently > > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD > Services - > > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered By > Beer". > > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > > Andy G > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Jul 20 19:45:39 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 00:45:39 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: Ah - more beer required... If you want to put out any Beer Powered Noise Frenzy CDs you know where I am! :-) Cheers, Rich. > Oh rite - thanks - between you and Colin, think I got carried away last > night - maybe I should be....... > Andy G. > > > > It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... > > > > I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... > > > > :-) > > > > I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! > > > > Cheer, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > I think just look at Rich's email address. > > Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer > > > > Mark > > > > > > > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are > > heavily > > > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is > > > currently > > > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD > > Services - > > > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered By > > Beer". > > > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > > > Andy G > > > > From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sun Jul 20 22:18:17 2003 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 22:18:17 -0400 Subject: Off: PT/Opeth In-Reply-To: <3F1B0198.2B28D3F2@execpc.com> Message-ID: Hawkfest might be a much better gig, but PT will knock your socks off. I saw them twice this week once in an acoustic performance in New Hampshire and last night in Boston with Opeth. PT were extremely good and on the heavy side. I could live without Opeth though. You are in for a very good gig from PT. Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET]On Behalf Of Karen Kusic Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 4:55 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: OFF: Anyone going to the Porcupine Tree / Opeth show in Chicago? Hiya - Just was wondering if anyone on the list might be going to the Porcupine Tree / Opeth show in Chicago on Friday, July 25th. http://www.victheatre.com/Page2.html I'll be there ... 2nd row center! Would be fun to meet any other list members in the area. Wrote to Arin Komins since I know she lives in Chicago but her next concert experience will be Hawkfest! Much better gig. :) Congrats again Arin and Rich on the nuptials. Karen From petertrance at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 21 04:07:43 2003 From: petertrance at HOTMAIL.COM (PETER WILKINSON) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:07:43 +0000 Subject: HW: going to hawkfest? Message-ID: ME AND MY MATES >From: Arin Komins >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: HW: going to hawkfest? >Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:47:25 -0500 > >Hi folks, > >Who is going to the Hawkfest? (ie. who should I be on the lookout for >?) > >Arin >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu >Manager of Web Systems Architecture >University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 >1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 >------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 21 04:45:54 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:45:54 +0000 Subject: DOJO Warrior CD Message-ID: It's unusual I suppose that Kings of Speed was the single released from the WOTEOT album, but was never played live back then. Most bands play their recent single the most. Although HW aren't most bands are they. Shame they didn't though, still never found out where the instrumental version on the HW Zoo EP came from? Eddie. >From: King of Speed >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: DOJO Warrior CD >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:12:26 -0400 > >The Dojo and Griffin Warriors have 2 slightly different versions of Kings >of Speed. They mostly sound the same but are different edits as far as I >can make out - one has a longer instrumental break in the middle but maybe >makes up for it later - don't remember exactly anymore. > >Stephan _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 21 08:03:49 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:03:49 +0100 Subject: DOJO Warrior CD In-Reply-To: eddie jobson's message of Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:45:54 +0000 Message-ID: eddie jobson writes: > It's unusual I suppose that Kings of Speed was the single released from the > WOTEOT album, but was never played live back then. Most bands play their > recent single the most. Although HW aren't most bands are they. Shame they > didn't though, still never found out where the instrumental version on the > HW Zoo EP came from? Kings of Speed was originally intended for Moorcock's "New Worlds Fair" LP and ended up on Warrior instead. It's clearly diferent in style from the rest of the Warrior album and would have worked rather well on NWF. IMHO it made a good single though. The only other thing that could feasibly have been tried as a single was a shortened version of Assault and Battery. FoFP From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 21 09:10:23 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:10:23 +0000 Subject: DOJO Warrior CD Message-ID: I think it was a superb choice for a single, and I think has the same powerful feel as 'Back on the Streets. Can only presume the HW Zoo version was maybe the original and the WOTEOT/single version was edited from that with vocals added. Wonder if Dave would remember, there's a question for the next IRC chat thingy. Eddie. >From: M Holmes >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: DOJO Warrior CD >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:03:49 +0100 > >eddie jobson writes: > > > It's unusual I suppose that Kings of Speed was the single released from >the > > WOTEOT album, but was never played live back then. Most bands play their > > recent single the most. Although HW aren't most bands are they. Shame >they > > didn't though, still never found out where the instrumental version on >the > > HW Zoo EP came from? > >Kings of Speed was originally intended for Moorcock's "New Worlds Fair" >LP and ended up on Warrior instead. It's clearly diferent in style from >the rest of the Warrior album and would have worked rather well on NWF. > >IMHO it made a good single though. The only other thing that could >feasibly have been tried as a single was a shortened version of Assault >and Battery. > >FoFP _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Jul 21 16:30:00 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:30:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest and German/Dutch Dates Message-ID: + + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + ++ ++ + We have some update information on HAWKFEST 2003: ARTHUR BROWN is headlining with his own band on Friday night and will also be performing with a band called 'Instants Flight', HAWKWIND will headline on Saturday night and DRUNK IN PUBLIC (acoustic Levellers) on Sunday. 'Dr Dark's Synthie Surgery' (workshop) will now also be a feature of the weekend !! Not got your ticket yet? TIME IS RUNNING OUT !! Remember - NO TICKETS ON SALE AT THE GIG !!!!! GET YOURS NOW BY RINGING THE FESTIVAL HOTLINE: 07977 270787 www.hawkwind.com for full details Other Information: Sat 16th August: GERMANY, Kloster Cornberg Festival THE FESTIVAL IS NOW IN WILHELMSTHAL NEAR EISENACH/TH?RINGEN Lineup includes: Hawkwind, Chris Spedding, Chicken Shack, Them, Stray etc. Tickets Hotline +49 (0)03691-721299 (GERMANY) Ticket price includes Camping - 35? Further information (in English) with full directions & maps etc.; Festival Website: www.thinkprogressive.de/eng.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun 17th August: HOLLAND, Amsterdam - Melkweg International Tickets via Internet (with credit card): www.ticketservice.nl (please order at least two weeks in advance for tickets to be sent to you) Melkweg Website: www.melkweg.nl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding "reprinted CD's": REMEMBER - MISSION CONTROL IS YOUR ONLY OFFICIAL SOURCE OF INFORMATION Do not rely on any other sources of 'official' information. ++ + MESSAGE ENDS + ++ + ++ From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Mon Jul 21 19:06:11 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:06:11 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: You have a CD? Well, let me hear it then, please. Thanks alot, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:45 AM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > Ah - more beer required... If you want to put out any Beer Powered Noise > Frenzy CDs you know where I am! :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > Oh rite - thanks - between you and Colin, think I got carried away last > > night - maybe I should be....... > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... > > > > > > I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! > > > > > > Cheer, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think just look at Rich's email address. > > > Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > > > > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are > > > heavily > > > > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is > > > > currently > > > > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD > > > Services - > > > > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered By > > > Beer". > > > > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > > > > Andy G > > > > > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 21 19:54:41 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:54:41 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: Ah - I knew I'd regret sending that mail! I'm afraid all we have is a CD recorded live at the Pigeons, E15 back in 1998, and it's only recorded from the audio of the video. (Ie, it's sh**) :-( I'll mail you a track direct if you really want! Our greatest accolade was Digby Pearson (boss of Earache Records) telling me that "Beer Powered Noise Frenzy" was the best name he'd ever heard for a band... (And this is the man who signed Lawnmower Deth) It's a good job I didn't tell him about the proposed side projects - a Wurzels tribute band called "Turnip For The Books" and a lounge band called "Devil's Advocaat"... :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Garibaldi" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > You have a CD? Well, let me hear it then, please. > Thanks alot, > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:45 AM > Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > > > > Ah - more beer required... If you want to put out any Beer Powered Noise > > Frenzy CDs you know where I am! :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > Oh rite - thanks - between you and Colin, think I got carried away last > > > night - maybe I should be....... > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... > > > > > > > > I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! > > > > > > > > Cheer, > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think just look at Rich's email address. > > > > Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > > > > > > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are > > > > heavily > > > > > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is > > > > > currently > > > > > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD > > > > Services - > > > > > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered > By > > > > Beer". > > > > > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > > > > > Andy G > > > > > > > > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 21 19:57:39 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:57:39 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: Ooh - I forgot to ask Andy - are you dealing with the "The Pyramids Of SNAFU" CD? (feat. Mr Ollis) Cheers, Rich. > > > Ah - more beer required... If you want to put out any Beer Powered Noise > > Frenzy CDs you know where I am! :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > Oh rite - thanks - between you and Colin, think I got carried away last > > > night - maybe I should be....... > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... > > > > > > > > I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! > > > > > > > > Cheer, > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think just look at Rich's email address. > > > > Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > > > > > > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who are > > > > heavily > > > > > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader is > > > > > currently > > > > > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD > > > > Services - > > > > > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered > By > > > > Beer". > > > > > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > > > > > Andy G > > > > > > > > > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jul 21 20:51:16 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:51:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Calvert Reissues - Bonus Tracks Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:59:15 -0500, cosmicdolphin wrote: >Now I feel like a Voiceprint Advert Nothing wrong with that, if they're going to put out all the reissues that Amazon is announcing ... ! >Looks like Voiceprint Finally Announced the Bonus Tracks for the Calvert >Reissues, and the release date 4th August > >http://www.voiceprint.co.uk/catalogue.php/Release/929/ I'm particularly intrigued by the fact that this reissue ('Hype') includes a couple songs with alternate lyrics, including "Over My Head", which is one of my all-time favorite Calvert lyrics. I especially like the way that, on many of his songs ("Quark, Strangeness and Charm" being another prime example), he seamlessly combines carnal/sexual themes with intellectual/scientific ones (topped off, of course, with puns about Gal-i- le-o and intellectu-elles). With most people, the two are mutually exclusive; not so with Bob ... (about the only other band I can think of that successfully combined the two were Devo, but it's sort of obvious with them, since any discussion of [de-]evolution necessarily involves reproduction, and any discussion of reproduction in higher organisms necessarily involves sex). His next two albums ('Freq', 'Test-Tube Conceived') would continue to expound on the double-sided theme of humanity-vs.-science / humanity-AND-science, but not in the same playful & whimsical manner (well, it's hard to be lighthearted when talking about striking miners who can't afford to feed their own family) as that particular song's celebration of the beauty of the human intellect. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 21 20:56:49 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:56:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: It was 34 years ago today... Message-ID: http://www.guardian.co.uk/fromthearchive/story/0,12269,1002715,00.html Nick From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Tue Jul 22 04:58:57 2003 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:58:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: It was 34 years ago yesterday Message-ID: .....that it was my birthday. Ain't that nice ? (My mum must be the only person in blighty not to have watched telly that morning) :o) Cheers Neil. (going to Pentrich this fri - yippee!) Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44(0)1773 537000 From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Tue Jul 22 05:55:24 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (Tom Byrne) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:55:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: It was 34 years ago today... Message-ID: Don't be taken in! See: http://www.dc8p.com/html/moonhoax.html Tom > > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 20:56:49 -0400 > From: Nick Medford > Subject: OFF: It was 34 years ago today... > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/fromthearchive/story/0,12269,1002715,00.html > > Nick > > ------------------------------ From gerald.whitworth at PARTHUSCEVA.COM Tue Jul 22 06:05:01 2003 From: gerald.whitworth at PARTHUSCEVA.COM (Gerald Whitworth) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:05:01 +0100 Subject: HW: SpaceRitual at Coventry 26th July Message-ID: Somewhat unexpectedly I now have a spare ticket for the SpaceRitual concert at Coventry on July 26th. If anyone is interested, please email me off list. Transport from Northampton area is available. Gerry From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Tue Jul 22 06:10:17 2003 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:10:17 +0100 Subject: HW : Hawkfest Message-ID: Halooo, >+ + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + ++ ++ + >We have some update information on HAWKFEST 2003: >ARTHUR BROWN is headlining with his own band on Friday night and will also be >performing with a band called 'Instants Flight', HAWKWIND will headline on >Saturday night Regarding this info.. if Arthur Brown is singing with his own band & Instants Flights will he also be singing with Hawkwind? Any clues as to what the Hawkwind line up will be this time? curios minds (and no ticket yet...) Maxine From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 22 07:55:37 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 07:55:37 -0400 Subject: Alleged Voiceprint Releases Message-ID: Hi all, The CDs that have been listed as being released by Voiceprint (Warrior, Hawklords at O..., ASAM and PXR5) are NOT due for release at present. There may be some re-issues in the future but certainly not as currently advertised. Both Amazon and CD Services were acting in good faith but were acting on false information. Regards, Colin Business Manager - Hawkwind From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Tue Jul 22 08:04:35 2003 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:04:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest and German/Dutch Dates Message-ID: Rik Rx wrote: > Sat 16th August: GERMANY, Kloster Cornberg Festival > THE FESTIVAL IS NOW IN WILHELMSTHAL NEAR EISENACH/TH?RINGEN > Lineup includes: Hawkwind, Chris Spedding, Chicken Shack, Them, Stray etc. Them??? Who is attempting this travesty? Might as well book the Quarrymen. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Jul 22 09:11:02 2003 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:11:02 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest Message-ID: Hi Maxine, Yes Arthur will be singing with Hawkwind. Arthur's band for the festie is Instants Flight, who will also be doing their own set. (There was a bit of a mix up with Rik's announcement :-) Are you coming this year then? Best wishes Kris Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: Maxine Wesley To: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:10 AM Subject: HW : Hawkfest > Halooo, > > >+ + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + ++ ++ + > > >We have some update information on HAWKFEST 2003: > > >ARTHUR BROWN is headlining with his own band on Friday night and will also be > >performing with a band called 'Instants Flight', HAWKWIND will headline on > >Saturday night > > Regarding this info.. if Arthur Brown is singing with his own band & > Instants Flights will he also be singing with Hawkwind? > > Any clues as to what the Hawkwind line up will be this time? > > curios minds (and no ticket yet...) > > Maxine > > > From dplaw at IC24.NET Tue Jul 22 09:18:38 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:18:38 -0400 Subject: HW : Hawkfest Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:10:17 +0100, Maxine Wesley wrote: >Halooo, > >>+ + ++ + STAR WARRIORS + ++ ++ + > >>We have some update information on HAWKFEST 2003: > >>ARTHUR BROWN is headlining with his own band on Friday night and will also be >>performing with a band called 'Instants Flight', HAWKWIND will headline on >>Saturday night > >Regarding this info.. if Arthur Brown is singing with his own band & >Instants Flights will he also be singing with Hawkwind? > >Any clues as to what the Hawkwind line up will be this time? > >curios minds (and no ticket yet...) > >Maxine my understanding is that Arthur will be playing 3 times over the weekend, with his own band headlining on the Fri night, with Hawkwind Saturday night and with Instant Flights at some other point in the proceedings, that is what i'm led to believe! No idea as to line up but i would guess it'll be something similar to the one who played the mini tour in may, with a bigger clue being who plays at the biker fest this Friday regards dave From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Tue Jul 22 09:27:48 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:27:48 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawkfest and German/Dutch Dates Message-ID: RikRx declares... Other Information: Sat 16th August: GERMANY, Kloster Cornberg Festival THE FESTIVAL IS NOW IN WILHELMSTHAL NEAR EISENACH/TH?RINGEN Lineup includes: Hawkwind, Chris Spedding, Chicken Shack, Them, Stray etc. Tickets Hotline +49 (0)03691-721299 (GERMANY) Ticket price includes Camping - 35EUR Further information (in English) with full directions & maps etc.; Festival Website: www.thinkprogressive.de/eng.html >THE FESTIVAL IS NOW IN WILHELMSTHAL NEAR EISENACH/TH?RINGEN Whoa...I think you put in the wrong location for this one. I just came back from there, that's where Burg Herzberg was held this year. I think the *Herzberg Classics* fest (previously known as Kloster Cornberg) is being held north of Alsfeld, in der Naehe von Schrecksbach, state of Hessen, previously West Germany. It's northwest from Fulda. At least that's what it says on the website, and on the posters that were hung up at Burg Herzberg. Some folks asked me (because of my Dec. 2000 HW t-shirt) about who exactly was going in Hawkwind there in August...so there's some interest there from those who have been waiting since 1996 to see them again, since the last time? they played in Germany (BH'96). And one guy who was totally chuffed that Arthur Brown was now with them...so I hope now that he's along with the group for this show! Grakkl (FAA) P.S. BTW, I don't think I'm going to the Classics fest...given that I'm already going to three fests in four weeks, and will have seen HW, Damo, and Birth Control (other participants of interest to me) in recent days (by then...Damo this weekend at Finkenbach, and HW on Aug. 9). P.P.S. Nektar was really cool. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 22 09:29:02 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 14:29:02 +0100 Subject: HW : Hawkfest In-Reply-To: Dave Law's message of Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:18:38 -0400 Message-ID: Dave Law writes: > my understanding is that Arthur will be playing 3 times over the weekend, > with his own band headlining on the Fri night, with Hawkwind Saturday > night and with Instant Flights at some other point in the proceedings, > that is what i'm led to believe! No idea as to line up but i would guess > it'll be something similar to the one who played the mini tour in may, > with a bigger clue being who plays at the biker fest this Friday > regards So who's all going this Friday? How about a meetup by the Beer tent around 9? -- Mike "Winner of the zero cc at Donnington" Holmes From dplaw at IC24.NET Tue Jul 22 09:33:27 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:33:27 -0400 Subject: HW : Hawkfest Message-ID: according to my p.c there was a difference of 23 seconds between the official answer and my incorrect one, spooky!! ;-) or just coincidence, i'll go with the second regards dave From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Jul 22 10:35:29 2003 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:35:29 +0100 Subject: HW : Hawkfest Message-ID: Hi Dave, Arthur will be using Instant Flights as his backing band for his own set on Friday night. Instant Flights will then play their own set (without Arthur) sometime during the festival Arthur will be playing with HW on Saturday night. Hope this clears things up :-) Kris Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Law To: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: HW : Hawkfest > according to my p.c there was a difference of 23 seconds between the > official answer and my incorrect one, spooky!! ;-) > or just coincidence, i'll go with the second > regards > dave > > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 22 13:39:03 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:39:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Copenhagen Space Rock Festival In-Reply-To: <20030516184414.45939.qmail@web80504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 May 2003, Alan Linsley wrote: > --- Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > ----- > > Has to be said the the album he's issued of all exclusive tracks from > > the > > Scandi-rock bands is just superb, and I'd thoroughly recommend it to > > spaceheads everywhere. "Copenhagen Rock" or something like that but > > we've > > got oodlesof it in stock if anyone in the UK fancies a copy - well > > recommended. > > Couldn't agree more! It's Copenhagen Space Rock Festival, it's > reviewed here - > > http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue23/copenhag.html > > and there's a sample track here - > > http://aural-innovations.com/radio/playlist.html#show75 > > My favourite track is the Gas Giant one, stoner-space rock with extra > shouting, wonderful. Nik is one a couple of the other tracks. It's > only ?9.99. Go for it folks. Does sound damn good. I have been playing with websites to fill out the old who-dun-what file I will some day get an updated version of onto the web again, and it seems to me that the tracks with Nik on are, in the case of Dark Sun, from their 1999 _Electric Dreams_ promo CD-R, and in the case of Pseudo Sun, presumably from the March 2000 tour they did wth him. Can anyone confirm this? Not bashing just trying to work out when to put them at in the file... Yours, Jon ObCD: Adrian Shaw - _Head Cleaner_ (gosh, this is... um... home-made) -- "If you are rich, throw away your documents. If you are poor, do so also." (Byzantine proverb) Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 22 16:34:29 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:34:29 +0100 Subject: I was Hwakwind In-Reply-To: <1d4.9e10816.2bf7220f@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 May 2003, Robert C. Mayo wrote: > fun > > http://quizilla.com/users/roarvis/quizzes/Which%20Early%2070's%20British%20R > ock%20Band%20Are%20You%3F/ Bah. I was Roxy Music. Is this thing switched on properly? Yours, Jon ObCD: Daevid Allen's University of Errors - _Ugly Music For Monica_ -- "If you are rich, throw away your documents. If you are poor, do so also." (Byzantine proverb) Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jul 22 18:40:30 2003 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:40:30 -0500 Subject: OFF: Firing the Cathedral Message-ID: Moorcock fans in the audience, has anyone read Firing the Cathedral, and what were your opinions? I managed to miss this one, and I came across Alan Moore's intro to it on the web (http://www.fantasticmetropolis.com/show.html?ey,ftcintro,1), and now I'm curious.... thanks, Arin (who has been a great fan of most of the Cornelius works over the years.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jul 22 18:49:13 2003 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:49:13 -0500 Subject: HW/OFF: moorcock on drugs Message-ID: OK, so I'm cruising through fantasticmetropolis.com rather than finishing work . Came across an essay originally in TimeOut in '95 by Moorcock called: The Turning World of Drugs. Hawkwind refs are all on page 3 ;-) http://www.fantasticmetropolis.com/show.html?ey,drugs,1 (page three is: http://www.fantasticmetropolis.com/show.html?ey,drugs,3) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Jul 22 19:17:55 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:17:55 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest and German/Dutch Dates ERRATUM Message-ID: Hi All !! Rats ! I MUST remember to quadruple check stuff that is sent b4 cutting and pasting it.... The festie organisers sent me the wrong background detail when I asked for an english translation.... course, I blindly stuck it up without checking it.... Here is the CORRECT Detail (see http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/to_.htm ) Sat 16th August: GERMANY, Kloster Cornberg Festival Lineup includes: Hawkwind, Chris Spedding, Chicken Shack, Them, Stray etc. Tickets Hotline +49 (0)03691-721299 (GERMANY) Ticket price includes Camping - 35? Further information with full directions & maps etc.; Festival Website: www.thinkprogressive.de/cfestival.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun 17th August: HOLLAND, Amsterdam - Melkweg International Tickets via Internet (with credit card): www.ticketservice.nl (please order at least two weeks in advance for tickets to be sent to you) Melkweg Website: www.melkweg.nl From grodog at PACBELL.NET Tue Jul 22 22:58:36 2003 From: grodog at PACBELL.NET (Allan T. Grohe Jr.) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:58:36 -0700 Subject: Firing the Cathedral In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brilliant! Fabulous! Better than Jhary-a-Conel's cat ;-> Seriously, though, it was quite good. Certainly not _The Condition of Muzak_ but then if it was, I'd wonder why Jerry was still wearing bell bottoms. If I ever get off my duff this summer, I'll be posting a review of it at www.themodernword.com (run by a friend). Allan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe Jr. Visit the Dreaming City-- grodog at pacbell.net http://www.thepale.org/grodog/ I am gray. I stand between the candle, and the star. We are gray. We stand between the darkness, and the light. --- "And The Sky Full of Stars," _Babylon 5_ > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Arin Komins > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:41 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET > Subject: OFF: Firing the Cathedral > > > Moorcock fans in the audience, has anyone read Firing the > Cathedral, and > what were your opinions? > > I managed to miss this one, and I came across Alan Moore's > intro to it on > the web > (http://www.fantasticmetropolis.com/show.html?> ey,ftcintro,1), > and > now I'm curious.... > > thanks, > > Arin > (who > has been a great fan of most of the Cornelius works over the years.) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 23 05:45:45 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:45:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: It was 34 years ago today... Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:55:24 +0100, Tom Byrne wrote: >Don't be taken in! > >See: > >http://www.dc8p.com/html/moonhoax.html > >Tom More to ponder at http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm talk about dropping a clanger... Nick From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Jul 23 03:42:37 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:42:37 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: No probs - I'll wait until you do a good one - then we'll make you famous - or kill your career stone dead - one of the two!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > Ah - I knew I'd regret sending that mail! > > I'm afraid all we have is a CD recorded live at the Pigeons, E15 back in > 1998, and it's only recorded from the audio of the video. (Ie, it's sh**) > :-( > > I'll mail you a track direct if you really want! > > Our greatest accolade was Digby Pearson (boss of Earache Records) telling me > that "Beer Powered Noise Frenzy" was the best name he'd ever heard for a > band... (And this is the man who signed Lawnmower Deth) It's a good job I > didn't tell him about the proposed side projects - a Wurzels tribute band > called "Turnip For The Books" and a lounge band called "Devil's Advocaat"... > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Garibaldi" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:06 AM > Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > > > > You have a CD? Well, let me hear it then, please. > > Thanks alot, > > Andy G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:45 AM > > Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > > > > > > > Ah - more beer required... If you want to put out any Beer Powered > Noise > > > Frenzy CDs you know where I am! :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > Oh rite - thanks - between you and Colin, think I got carried away > last > > > > night - maybe I should be....... > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! > > > > > > > > > > Cheer, > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think just look at Rich's email address. > > > > > Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > > > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who > are > > > > > heavily > > > > > > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader > is > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD > > > > > Services - > > > > > > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered > > By > > > > > Beer". > > > > > > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > > > > > > Andy G > > > > > > > > > > > > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Jul 23 03:43:59 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:43:59 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: No - don't know this - please get whoever to mail a copy to me please - love to consider it. Always willing to hear any new music that comes around - after all, it's the new bands that the future is built on. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:57 AM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > Ooh - I forgot to ask Andy - are you dealing with the "The Pyramids Of > SNAFU" CD? (feat. Mr Ollis) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > Ah - more beer required... If you want to put out any Beer Powered > Noise > > > Frenzy CDs you know where I am! :-) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > Oh rite - thanks - between you and Colin, think I got carried away > last > > > > night - maybe I should be....... > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! > > > > > > > > > > Cheer, > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think just look at Rich's email address. > > > > > Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > > > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who > are > > > > > heavily > > > > > > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader > is > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from CD > > > > > Services - > > > > > > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest "Powered > > By > > > > > Beer". > > > > > > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > > > > > > Andy G > > > > > > > > > > > > From dplaw at IC24.NET Wed Jul 23 09:08:57 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:08:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema Message-ID: just to let folks know that i'll shortly be removing the current film clips at the museum that consist of the bands ect performance as well as a german tv show, and lets just say we have some "very interesting" stuff to replace them with (more soon) so here's your last chance to view (or swipe!) the current program before there changed the relevant page is http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwcinema.htm regards dave From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jul 23 10:17:49 2003 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Stewartbas at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:17:49 EDT Subject: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema Message-ID: In a message dated 7/23/2003 9:09:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dplaw at IC24.NET writes: > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwcinema.htm > Very, very cool...who's the drummer? Best Bill From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 23 12:39:34 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 00:39:34 +0800 Subject: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema Message-ID: Clive Deamer, I believe? William ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > In a message dated 7/23/2003 9:09:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dplaw at IC24.NET > writes: > > > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwcinema.htm > > > > Very, very cool...who's the drummer? > > Best > Bill > From dplaw at IC24.NET Wed Jul 23 13:22:43 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:22:43 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 00:39:34 +0800, William Duffy wrote: >Clive Deamer, I believe? > >William correct for the ECT clips, it's ginger baker on the german show! cheers dave > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:17 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > > >> In a message dated 7/23/2003 9:09:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >dplaw at IC24.NET >> writes: >> >> > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwcinema.htm >> > >> >> Very, very cool...who's the drummer? >> >> Best >> Bill >> From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Jul 23 14:08:26 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:08:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema Message-ID: If thats him he sure looks different now. No hair!!!! Great drummer. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > Clive Deamer, I believe? > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:17 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > > > > In a message dated 7/23/2003 9:09:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > dplaw at IC24.NET > > writes: > > > > > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwcinema.htm > > > > > > > Very, very cool...who's the drummer? > > > > Best > > Bill > > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Jul 23 14:39:54 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:39:54 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops/SLOTERDIJK appearances this week and into August Message-ID: Thursday, July 24th @ 'The Noyes Museum' , Oceanville, New Jersey South Jersey Songwriters meeting and showcase Time: 7:00 PM -? contact: http://www.noyesmuseum.org or Bill Roberts @ ( 609) 748-8795 This is going to be a very cool evening, with lots of meeting, greeting & networking! Friday, July 25th: Borders Books & Music, Mays Landing, New Jersey Time: 8:00-10:00PM Garden State Songwriters Songshare info: http://bordersstores.com/stores/store_pg.jsp?storeID=193 Friday, August 1: The Daily Grind Coffeehouse, Mt. Holly, New Jersey time: 7PM contact: (609) 265-0088 The OEBs will open for 'Dark Lou's' 'INExperience', featuring Jay Adcock of Sloterdijk keeping the beat for the Dr. Hawkwind tunes a must for this show. Special guest bass player scheduled for this evening. Saturday August 16th: SLOTERDIJK @ 'SCATTERED PLANETS" 'Space Rock BBQ' for info contact doug Mcmahon @ doug at scatteredplanets.com or check out: http://scatteredplanets.com For a complete listing of our shows info etc, visit these sites: http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com http://www.sloterdijk.us http://www.mp3.com/sloterdijk Peace! Mike _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Jul 23 15:08:46 2003 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (Jez Dacombe) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:08:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema Message-ID: Hi, Saw Robert Plant and his Strange Sensation band at Ashton Court Orange Festival at the weekend. The drummer was a certain Drive Deamer (more famous for being in Portishead than his brief stint in HW). Cheers, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephe Lindas To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > If thats him he sure looks different now. No hair!!!! Great drummer. Cheers > Stephe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Duffy" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > > > > Clive Deamer, I believe? > > > > William > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:17 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/23/2003 9:09:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > dplaw at IC24.NET > > > writes: > > > > > > > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwcinema.htm > > > > > > > > > > Very, very cool...who's the drummer? > > > > > > Best > > > Bill > > > > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 23 20:34:29 2003 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:34:29 EDT Subject: Space Bandits Cover Message-ID: Hey-a: Anybody else notice that the SB cover is sort of "Hall of the Mountain Grill," Pt. 2? In the background on the right is the crashed Starship, Our Intrepid Musicnauts approach Black Elk, perhaps to ask about ship navigation? Joe From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Jul 24 05:12:03 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (Tom Byrne) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:12:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: It was 34 years ago today... Message-ID: I take it this evidence was provided by a whistle blower. Tom > > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:45:45 -0400 > From: Nick Medford > Subject: Re: OFF: It was 34 years ago today... > > On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:55:24 +0100, Tom Byrne wrote: > > >Don't be taken in! > > > >See: > > > >http://www.dc8p.com/html/moonhoax.html > > > >Tom > > More to ponder at > > http://stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm > > talk about dropping a clanger... > > Nick > From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 24 05:29:28 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:29:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: It was 34 years ago today... Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:12:03 +0100, Tom Byrne wrote: >I take it this evidence was provided by a whistle blower. No, I think it was just knitted together from scraps. Nick From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 24 05:39:00 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:39:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema Message-ID: I still have that on VHS video from the tv. If anyone needs a copy might be able to do something. Get in touch off line. Eddie. >From: Stephe Lindas >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:08:26 -0400 > >If thats him he sure looks different now. No hair!!!! Great drummer. Cheers >Stephe >----- Original Message ----- >From: "William Duffy" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:39 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > > > > Clive Deamer, I believe? > > > > William > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:17 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind museum - cinema > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/23/2003 9:09:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > dplaw at IC24.NET > > > writes: > > > > > > > http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwcinema.htm > > > > > > > > > > Very, very cool...who's the drummer? > > > > > > Best > > > Bill > > > _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Jul 24 06:35:05 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (Tom Byrne) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 06:35:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: It was 34 years ago today... Message-ID: Yes - there's clear evidence of wooly thinking here. Tom On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:29:28 -0400, Nick Medford wrote: >On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:12:03 +0100, Tom Byrne wrote: > >>I take it this evidence was provided by a whistle blower. > >No, I think it was just knitted together from scraps. > >Nick From dplaw at IC24.NET Thu Jul 24 10:49:45 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:49:45 -0400 Subject: HW: Rock and blues show tomorrow Message-ID: any of you folks out there attending the rock and blues show tomorrow, feel free to take along your camera and notepad as the hawkwind museum would love to host some reviews and piccys of hawkwind at this gig. any contributions greatly recieved at dl006a5789 at blueyonder.co.uk or via the site itself www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk all those attending, including the band have a great time, and remember - only 15 days to hawkfest YIPEEEEeeeee regards dave From dplaw at IC24.NET Thu Jul 24 11:21:31 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:21:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Volunteers required Message-ID: the hawkwind museum is looking for 3 volunteers who are attending hawkfest to take some pictures for inclusion on the site. my intention is to buy some disposable cameras and let the three lucky(!) recipients use them as they wish to record their own view of the fest. anybody who's interested could you please e-mail me off list at dl006a5789 at blueyonder.co.uk giving a brief outline of yourselves. the only reason for this is that it would be good to get 3 entirely different perspectives on proceedings! my intention is that we could arrange to meet up on the friday (at one of the bars, possibly :-) ), where i'll dish out the cameras and then we'll sort out you returning them to me at the end of the weekend. all pictures will remain the property of myself and the museum and i cannot guarantee that all you shots will be used, however you will get full credit for your works and i'll happily send out the negatives to you for you to borrow if you require copies thanks for your time, i'll probably give it a couple of days and see what the response has been like and get back to those who sound best suited to give a broad and rounded perspective to the weekend. anybody else who fancies doing something similar, or different!, for inclusion on the site feel free to also drop us a line at the address above. regards dave From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Jul 24 20:40:38 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 01:40:38 +0100 Subject: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: :-) I don't think we have much of a career to kill! I'll let you know when though! :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Garibaldi" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > No probs - I'll wait until you do a good one - then we'll make you famous - > or kill your career stone dead - one of the two!! > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:54 AM > Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > > > > Ah - I knew I'd regret sending that mail! > > > > I'm afraid all we have is a CD recorded live at the Pigeons, E15 back in > > 1998, and it's only recorded from the audio of the video. (Ie, it's sh**) > > :-( > > > > I'll mail you a track direct if you really want! > > > > Our greatest accolade was Digby Pearson (boss of Earache Records) telling > me > > that "Beer Powered Noise Frenzy" was the best name he'd ever heard for a > > band... (And this is the man who signed Lawnmower Deth) It's a good job > I > > didn't tell him about the proposed side projects - a Wurzels tribute band > > called "Turnip For The Books" and a lounge band called "Devil's > Advocaat"... > > :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andrew Garibaldi" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:06 AM > > Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > > > > > > > You have a CD? Well, let me hear it then, please. > > > Thanks alot, > > > Andy G. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:45 AM > > > Subject: Re: Dr Hasbeen > > > > > > > > > > Ah - more beer required... If you want to put out any Beer Powered > > Noise > > > > Frenzy CDs you know where I am! :-) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh rite - thanks - between you and Colin, think I got carried away > > last > > > > > night - maybe I should be....... > > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's my band. Beer Powered Noise Frenzy... > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it'd stand up in court somehow though... > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > I might have to buy it, just to see what it sounds like! > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheer, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think just look at Rich's email address. > > > > > > Beerpowerednoisefrenzy - powered by beer > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry? Have I missed something here? > > > > > > > Andy G. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Powered by Beer"? "POWERED BY BEER"?!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How dare they??!!! Can we sue?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Hasbeen are neither - they are a real space-rock band who > > are > > > > > > heavily > > > > > > > > > influenced by Hawkwind and even do some covers. Their leader > > is > > > > > > > currently > > > > > > > > > guitarist in Spacehead and the CD's are all available from > CD > > > > > > Services - > > > > > > > > > those wanting a good starter CD should get the latest > "Powered > > > By > > > > > > Beer". > > > > > > > > > Live, they are excellent so my advice is go see them. > > > > > > > > > Andy G > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 25 07:09:07 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:09:07 +0100 Subject: Off to Rock & Blues Message-ID: I'll look up at the beer tent around 9 to see if anyone else from the list is around.... FoFP From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Jul 25 12:35:27 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 16:35:27 +0000 Subject: lots of SLOTERDIJK & OEB CDS on Ebay going very cheap!!!/ 'The Night Owl Music' Message-ID: Dear friends, There are about 6 or 7 SLOTERDIJK & OEB discs currently available on Ebay. In the past many of you have written with regard to obtaining our CDS. We are regularly using Ebay, and accept various forms of payment. We try to keep the prices low. Regarding our label all production and promotion is done on a grass roots level. Every disc is personally packaged by us, and all monies go directly back into the project. Just visit: http://www.ebay.com and search under any of the following keywords: SLOTERDIJK OEB One Eyed Bishops Downliners Sect ( for our cd with the sect, Mick Farrren etc) PS: Also any bands or individuals interested in submitting material for the growth of this label are encoraged to do so. We want to keep it small & tailored to our audience bases. Contact: Sloterdijk at msn.com or send press kit and recording ( CD preferred) to: The Night Owl Music c/o Mike Burro 3504 Green Acres Drive Mays Landing, New Jersey 08330 United States _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Jul 25 14:55:54 2003 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:55:54 -0500 Subject: Off to Rock & Blues In-Reply-To: <200307251109.h6PB97Eu021249@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, M Holmes wrote: :Subject: Off to Rock & Blues : :I'll look up at the beer tent around 9 to see if anyone else from the :list is around.... For when you folks (who are attending Rock and Blues) get back: gig reports, please. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From dplaw at IC24.NET Sat Jul 26 07:32:41 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 07:32:41 -0400 Subject: HW: Exciting new film clips! Message-ID: as promised the hawkwind museum is pleased to announce that we are hosting some "very interesting" footage in our cinema section. it's only of bootleg quality but has to be worth seeing just for the historical value, and without giving too much away (you'll have to come and see for yourselves) it involves Bob Calvert and an old barn used for storing wood! curious, then head over to http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/hwcinema.htm and have a look for yourselves, hope you enjoy regards dave p.s - how was the rock 'n' blues gig? From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jul 27 04:38:50 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:38:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations July 2003 issue online NOW!!! Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com The July 2003 issue (#24) of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers Space Rock, Psychedelia, Electronic music, plus the more eclectic forms of Progressive rock and Jazz. See the index of this issue's contents below. NOTE: There are big changes coming in the way we publish Aural Innovations. I'll get a full detailed announcement out in the next several days. The July 2003 issue of Aural Innovations includes: Automatic Music Kin Ping Meh Jeff Gburek Jack Daddy Loops AKA Loopty The Burg Herzburg 2003 Festival Tales Of The ACTION MAN: Blackmailers Don't Dance Volker Kriegel 1943 - 2003: An Obituary Live show coverage Recent releases from Elektrohasch Records Recent Releases from Phantom Airship Records/Great Artiste 89 Records Recent Releases from Stone Premonitions Recent Releases from K Records Recent Releases from Black Balloon Records Releases from Mandragora Records Recent Releases from Camera Obscura Recent Releases from Swamp Room Records Releases from Nicht Records Recent Releases from Sonic Unyon Recent Releases from Black Beauty Records Releases from Fragment Music Releases from Public Eyesore Recent Releases from Hot Igloo Releases from Butterfly Records Recent Releases from Accretions Recent Releases from Circumvention Music Releases from Edgetone Records Releases from Clocked Out Productions Releases from Unicorn Records And a loads and loads of reviews!!! 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All the above can be found by setting your vessel's controls for http://Aural-Innovations.com From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Jul 27 06:19:04 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:19:04 -0400 Subject: HW: - another remix Message-ID: folowing on from the recent "Hawkslimmed" remix, the same guy LV15, has produced another one going under the name of "Master of the heartache", you can download it at http://www.aoyy04.dsl.pipex.com/LV15%20-%20Master% 20of%20Heartache.mp3 any thoughts? regards dave p.s - have to say that meads of asphodel version of assault and battery is hilarious IMHO whhhorrrahhhhhhh................ :-) From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Jul 27 06:26:19 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:26:19 -0400 Subject: HW: re another remix Message-ID: sorry the link is http://www.aoyy04.dsl.pipex.com/LV15%20-%20Master%20of%20Heartache.mp3 right that should do it! regards dave From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Jul 27 06:32:48 2003 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:32:48 +0100 Subject: Rock & Blues thoughts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- Arin Komins wrote: > > For when you folks (who are attending Rock and Blues) get back: gig > reports, please. > > Arin Ok Arin (& Doug P), if you insist :-) Let's try and give you a taste of the atmosphere first - just think of Rock n Blues as your classic biker fest. A field in the middle of a gorgeous part of the English countryside turned into a carpet of mud and crushed beer cans in a matter of hours. You had your tent selling official Outlaws MC merchandise, which I thought was a bit bizarre - when I were a lad I was taught the Angels belted you if they caught you wearing anything resembling "their" colours, now they sell them to you. If I'd stayed til Saturday I could have witnessed the Best Beer Belly competition ("and that's just for the ladies!" we were told...arf). The weather had been terrible earlier in the today, hence the mud, but by the time the bands got started it was a warm, pleasant summer's evening. With the bloke next to you urinating on your boots, obviously. I completely missed Rainbow Rising but apparently Dumpy guested with them. Heard a bit of Budgie on the way in (Panzer Division Destroyed) and saw them round off their set with Breadfan (of course) for the encore. They were pretty solid, wish I'd seen the whole set, it was nice to see they're still going. I was really looking forward to seeing Molly Hatchet coz I used to be partial to a bit of the ol' Southern Fried Boogie, but I couldn't stomach the singer spouting his nonsense about the US military keeping us all "free" (you know the kinda stuff, "our boys in Vietnam" blah blah), and when they started abusing an audience member who was videocam-ing them I decided to wander off to the beer tent (my Molly Hatchet LPs are going to the charity shop). The singer carried on trying to get the audience to shout "Hell yeah!" to which those around me at least replied with 2 entirely different words (the second of which was "off"). Hawkwind took the stage about 10:40/45 after some delays due to problems with Simon's keybds. Line-up was same as the May tour - Dave, Simon, Alan, Richard & Arthur - and the set was basically a truncated version of the May set, probably because they were supposed to be on at 10:30 and had to be off by midnight (although they inevitably overran a bit). I've already forgotten the exact set list, but they definitely started with Master of the Universe (no Time Captives), then Song of the Gremlin, Time & Confusion/Prelude, The Watcher and The Right Stuff, which contained a bit a jam in the middle with Arthur intoning some lyrics that could have been a bit 7by7-ish but I'm not sure and was rounded off with a few bars of Paranoia. It's the middle order I always forget. I think it was Sun Ray next (with Arthur wearing a different sun-on-his-head thing), then Brainbox Pollution (the only number that wasn't from the May tour) and then Angela Android, but I may be missing something in there. They certainly finished off with Golden Void (*without* A&B), Where Are They Now? and Silver Machine, then encored with Assassins of Allah. Dumpy guested for SM & Assassins but I don't think his guitar was properly connected, I certainly couldn't hear it. He did a good job dueting with Dave on the "It is written" bit of Assassins. I enjoyed it, and it looked like the band did too. It was a shortened, slightly more biker-friendly open-air version of the May tour. The band were tight, all the rockier numbers were solid and powerful. Arthur is still on form and seems to be enjoying himself. Simon's violin was clear and strong, long may it remain so. During several numbers (Master & Gremlin and others) there was an awful reverberating noise coming out of Simon's keybd, it was almost as if one his keys got stuck, and it drowned out everything else. There seemed to be more synthy sounds (bubbles and spacey noises as opposed to keybds) in the mix than in May but maybe that's just me noticing them more. Arthur still hasn't got the words right on Master. The first chunk of The Watcher was played with synth drums for some odd reason, odd for such a rocky number, I guess they were just playing around with it for fun but it sounded "false" to me. Brainbox was superb, especially Alan. Golden Void/Where is still a massive highpoint and worked fine without A&B. As ever Simon's violin on Assassins was spine-tingling stuff. The new numbers are getting better, I thought Sun Ray was tighter than May and the younger members of the crowd really got jumping to Angela Android (and the Palestine bit of Assassins). Unfortunately, as with May, Dave seemed to be spending time poking around in his machinery rather than playing guitar at some points. And, as usual, some of the gaps between songs were waaaay too long, people around me started losing interest and were just chatting. HW really need to remember how to maintain momentum, build an atmosphere and hold an audience with them throughout the show, it's the difference between a gig and a rehearsal chaps. The one number I was hoping for and didn't get was Seven By Seven, which was dropped during the May tour due to Dave's flu. I really hope they bring that back soon. So, overall I was happy and encouraged and had my appetite whetted for Hawkfest and The Melkweg. And the World Tour of course, mustn't forget that :-) AL ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 27 07:12:16 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:12:16 -0400 Subject: HW: - another remix Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:19:04 -0400, Dave Law wrote: >folowing on from the recent "Hawkslimmed" remix, the same guy LV15, has >produced another one going under the name of "Master of the heartache", >you can download it at http://www.aoyy04.dsl.pipex.com/LV15%20-%20Master% >20of%20Heartache.mp3 >any thoughts? I think both of these are ingenious, particularly this latest one. The Eminem one was no more than a curio item, but this actually sounds like a genuine track. Extremely well done. I'll admit to ignorance as to the identity of the vocalist - whoever it is she has a tremendous voice. Is it Macy Gray?? I'm hoping it is her as my wife has some of her CDs, and it would amuse me no end to be able to pretend that one of her favourite artists had done a collaboration with HW. Nick From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Jul 27 08:02:29 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (Tom Byrne) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:02:29 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 26 Jul 2003 to 27 Jul 2003 (#2003-49) Message-ID: I thoroughly recommend the latest issue of Aural-Innovations. I was particularly impressed at Jerry's eloquent piece at http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue24/tombyrn2.html Ahem. Looking forward to Hawkfest Tom > > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:38:50 -0400 > From: Jerry Kranitz > Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations July 2003 issue online NOW!!! > > http://Aural-Innovations.com > > The July 2003 issue (#24) of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For > SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers Space Rock, > Psychedelia, Electronic music, plus the more eclectic forms of Progressive > rock and Jazz. See the index of this issue's contents below. > > NOTE: There are big changes coming in the way we publish Aural Innovations. > I'll get a full detailed announcement out in the next several days. > > The July 2003 issue of Aural Innovations includes: > > Automatic Music > Kin Ping Meh > Jeff Gburek > Jack Daddy Loops AKA Loopty > The Burg Herzburg 2003 Festival > Tales Of The ACTION MAN: Blackmailers Don't Dance > Volker Kriegel 1943 - 2003: An Obituary > Live show coverage > Recent releases from Elektrohasch Records > Recent Releases from Phantom Airship Records/Great Artiste 89 Records > Recent Releases from Stone Premonitions > Recent Releases from K Records > Recent Releases from Black Balloon Records > Releases from Mandragora Records > Recent Releases from Camera Obscura > Recent Releases from Swamp Room Records > Releases from Nicht Records > Recent Releases from Sonic Unyon > Recent Releases from Black Beauty Records > Releases from Fragment Music > Releases from Public Eyesore > Recent Releases from Hot Igloo > Releases from Butterfly Records > Recent Releases from Accretions > Recent Releases from Circumvention Music > Releases from Edgetone Records > Releases from Clocked Out Productions > Releases from Unicorn Records > And a loads and loads of reviews!!! > > You can go directly to the new issue at: > http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue24/issue24.html > > Don't forget to check out Aural Innovations Radio for the best sounds on the > planet and the Aural Innovations CD mail order catalog for some of the best > space rock and psychedelia that you've never heard. > > All the above can be found by setting your vessel's controls for > http://Aural-Innovations.com > > ------------------------------ From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Jul 27 09:25:30 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:25:30 -0400 Subject: HW: - another remix Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:12:16 -0400, Nick Medford wrote: >On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:19:04 -0400, Dave Law wrote: > >>folowing on from the recent "Hawkslimmed" remix, the same guy LV15, has >>produced another one going under the name of "Master of the heartache", >>you can download it at http://www.aoyy04.dsl.pipex.com/LV15%20-%20Master% >>20of%20Heartache.mp3 >>any thoughts? > >I think both of these are ingenious, particularly this latest one. The >Eminem one was no more than a curio item, but this actually sounds like a >genuine track. Extremely well done. > >I'll admit to ignorance as to the identity of the vocalist - whoever it is >she has a tremendous voice. Is it Macy Gray?? I'm hoping it is her as my >wife has some of her CDs, and it would amuse me no end to be able to >pretend that one of her favourite artists had done a collaboration with HW. > >Nick apparently it's tina turner, so your in the right neck of the woods so to speak! :-) cheers dave From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 27 10:53:22 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 10:53:22 -0400 Subject: HW: - another remix Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:25:30 -0400, Dave Law wrote: >apparently it's tina turner, so your in the right neck of the woods so to >speak! :-) Yes, I believe there are some Tina Turner cd's in the spouse's collection too. In fact... let's not forget that some of the Ike and Tina T. stuff from the 60s is pretty damn good. Her 80s (and beyond) comeback stuff was absolutely appalling, but clearly if she'd secured the services of Brock and co. as her backing band, all would have been well!! Nick From youless at COX.NET Sun Jul 27 11:02:57 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:02:57 -0400 Subject: HW: - another remix Message-ID: I have to say, this is amazingly good. A whole order of magnitude better than the 'Hawkslimmed' Hawkwind / Eminem remix. Thanks for the link Dave, it has been elevated to the pantheon on Starfarer's Links page. I stole Nick's idea and played it to my long-suffering Hawkwind-hating wife, telling her Tina Turner's latest recording is a collaboration with HW. The results were so pleasing I am now going to try the less exalted 'Hawkslimmed' effort on my Eminem-loving children (ages 11 and 13) Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: http://www.aoyy04.dsl.pipex.com/LV15%20-%20Master%20of%20Heartache.mp3 On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:12:16 -0400, Nick Medford wrote: >I think both of these are ingenious, particularly this latest one. The >Eminem one was no more than a curio item, but this actually sounds like a >genuine track. Extremely well done. > >I'll admit to ignorance as to the identity of the vocalist - whoever it is >she has a tremendous voice. Is it Macy Gray?? I'm hoping it is her as my >wife has some of her CDs, and it would amuse me no end to be able to >pretend that one of her favourite artists had done a collaboration with HW. > >Nick From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Jul 27 11:41:16 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:41:16 -0400 Subject: HW: - another remix Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:02:57 -0400, Steve Youles wrote: >I have to say, this is amazingly good. A whole order of magnitude better >than the 'Hawkslimmed' Hawkwind / Eminem remix. Thanks for the link Dave, >it has been elevated to the pantheon on Starfarer's Links page. > >I stole Nick's idea and played it to my long-suffering Hawkwind-hating >wife, telling her Tina Turner's latest recording is a collaboration with >HW. The results were so pleasing I am now going to try the less >exalted 'Hawkslimmed' effort on my Eminem-loving children (ages 11 and 13) > >Steve > > good luck steve, i tried the eminem trick on my daughter when i first heard it the other week, only for her to say "dad, this is sooooooo sad!" regards dave From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jul 27 13:24:41 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:24:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 20 May 2003, Neil Shilladay wrote: > I'll just add my thoughts to Mark's. > First off - an absolute blinder of a gig. I was stood behind the sound > desk, and Simon's violin sounded fine for 90% of the gig. Everyone else > sounded fine, with Dave's guitar to the fore, but not swamping the sound. > As Mark said, the setlist was pretty much the same. The new rocker that > Jon refered to in his Cambridge review started off sounding like a Ron > Tree number - very heavy bass. > Overall - Ozrics played a loong and very well received support, almost a > double headliner. I really enjoyed them, although I did see Night of the > Hawks on the sound man's list that never made it (maybe this was due to > Ozrics overunning, for which they did apologise). > The Hawks were on fine form tonight, and seemed to really enjoy it. Dave > ribbed the crowd for being quiet, and introduced Simon who would play some > Paganni (sp?). The band played tight and reminded me why I love their > music so much. That was a fabulous gig. I was really pleased to have made it to that one after the Cambridge one, and see all the potential allowed out by a decent sound system. They did all seem to have fun, though Arthur still couldn't keep his Phoebus mask on and dance at the same time. Great performance. It was `The Watcher' that really bit the friend I'd taken along, but I still enjoyed the whole `Assassins -> Where Are They Now' segment the most of all. They should play more extended sequences like that. Worth giving a bit of review space to the Ozrics, too, I thought as they were if anything on better form than Hawkwind. Had Hawkwind not had the signal advantage of being one of my all-time favourite bands I might have thought the Ozrics turned out the better show. John thanked the Hawks for having them, and told a story about why Hawkwind liked them so much: apparently, once when they were on the same bill at some gig or other when the Ozrics were new at it, they came back in from the stage and found they'd been given Hawkwind's money instead of theirs. Rather than scoot, they gave it back and that's how, as he told it, they got this gig... John's version of relaity is probably quite special though. Lovely bloke though, Kirsten and I found him in the crowd at the Here'n'Now gig a week or two later and had a long chat with him. Anyhow, as I wrote it down (took me ages to find this, I seem to still have the last four Hawkwind setlists before this gig in my pocket too), the Ozrics played: Stretchy/ Vita Voom/ Papyrus/ Neurochasm [not sure about this; I often only realise I have Ozrics titles down wrong when they play the song I thought it was later in the set, this is the trouble with instrumental bands... ]/ Citadel Jam/ Oakum/ Pyramidion/ Sultana Detri/ Astro Cortex/ White Rhino Tea/ Sunscape/ Dissolution/ Sploosh! They did play for ages, it was great. Particular note to the two recent singles, `Oakum' was fantastic, a blistering blend of hard trance at top speed and festie beat magic, and `Pyramidion' was still far far better than the weak single vesion of it they released. Fantastic head music and the crossover territory they plough seems to get more exciting every time I see them. Must invest in a recent album or two and see how true this is there. But everything they did was tip-top especially the changes and pauses during `White Rhino Tea', though you'd expect them to have that right by now. Anyway, the two bands together did a very nice job of getting across to my friend what this whole spacerock thing was about and I went back to hers very happy with it all. Yours, Jon ObCD: The Alchemysts and Simeon - _Simeon and the Alchemysts_ -- "If you are rich, throw away your documents. If you are poor, do so also." (Egyptian proverb) Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College From pwibrew13 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sun Jul 27 13:55:51 2003 From: pwibrew13 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:55:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Rock City In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nice shout for the Ozrics Jon, but you will find the real setlist here though mate ;) http://www.ozricgigguide.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/2003/20030519.htm all the best Peter -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET] On Behalf Of Jon Jarrett Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:25 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Subject: Re: HW: Rock City On Tue, 20 May 2003, Neil Shilladay wrote: > I'll just add my thoughts to Mark's. > First off - an absolute blinder of a gig. I was stood behind the sound > desk, and Simon's violin sounded fine for 90% of the gig. Everyone else > sounded fine, with Dave's guitar to the fore, but not swamping the sound. > As Mark said, the setlist was pretty much the same. The new rocker that > Jon refered to in his Cambridge review started off sounding like a Ron > Tree number - very heavy bass. > Overall - Ozrics played a loong and very well received support, almost a > double headliner. I really enjoyed them, although I did see Night of the > Hawks on the sound man's list that never made it (maybe this was due to > Ozrics overunning, for which they did apologise). > The Hawks were on fine form tonight, and seemed to really enjoy it. Dave > ribbed the crowd for being quiet, and introduced Simon who would play some > Paganni (sp?). The band played tight and reminded me why I love their > music so much. That was a fabulous gig. I was really pleased to have made it to that one after the Cambridge one, and see all the potential allowed out by a decent sound system. They did all seem to have fun, though Arthur still couldn't keep his Phoebus mask on and dance at the same time. Great performance. It was `The Watcher' that really bit the friend I'd taken along, but I still enjoyed the whole `Assassins -> Where Are They Now' segment the most of all. They should play more extended sequences like that. Worth giving a bit of review space to the Ozrics, too, I thought as they were if anything on better form than Hawkwind. Had Hawkwind not had the signal advantage of being one of my all-time favourite bands I might have thought the Ozrics turned out the better show. John thanked the Hawks for having them, and told a story about why Hawkwind liked them so much: apparently, once when they were on the same bill at some gig or other when the Ozrics were new at it, they came back in from the stage and found they'd been given Hawkwind's money instead of theirs. Rather than scoot, they gave it back and that's how, as he told it, they got this gig... John's version of relaity is probably quite special though. Lovely bloke though, Kirsten and I found him in the crowd at the Here'n'Now gig a week or two later and had a long chat with him. Anyhow, as I wrote it down (took me ages to find this, I seem to still have the last four Hawkwind setlists before this gig in my pocket too), the Ozrics played: Stretchy/ Vita Voom/ Papyrus/ Neurochasm [not sure about this; I often only realise I have Ozrics titles down wrong when they play the song I thought it was later in the set, this is the trouble with instrumental bands... ]/ Citadel Jam/ Oakum/ Pyramidion/ Sultana Detri/ Astro Cortex/ White Rhino Tea/ Sunscape/ Dissolution/ Sploosh! They did play for ages, it was great. Particular note to the two recent singles, `Oakum' was fantastic, a blistering blend of hard trance at top speed and festie beat magic, and `Pyramidion' was still far far better than the weak single vesion of it they released. Fantastic head music and the crossover territory they plough seems to get more exciting every time I see them. Must invest in a recent album or two and see how true this is there. But everything they did was tip-top especially the changes and pauses during `White Rhino Tea', though you'd expect them to have that right by now. Anyway, the two bands together did a very nice job of getting across to my friend what this whole spacerock thing was about and I went back to hers very happy with it all. Yours, Jon ObCD: The Alchemysts and Simeon - _Simeon and the Alchemysts_ -- "If you are rich, throw away your documents. If you are poor, do so also." (Egyptian proverb) Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release Date: 7/4/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release Date: 7/4/03 From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sun Jul 27 17:18:18 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:18:18 -0400 Subject: English money Message-ID: Hi Folks, Got a question, which may seem dumb but I don't know. Do they use English money in Scotland? Cheers Stephe From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 27 17:26:18 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:26:18 +0100 Subject: English money Message-ID: Yes Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:18 PM Subject: English money Hi Folks, Got a question, which may seem dumb but I don't know. Do they use English money in Scotland? Cheers Stephe From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sun Jul 27 17:30:54 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:30:54 -0400 Subject: English money Message-ID: Thanks Colin. Never been there and I wanted to make sure. See ya at the fest. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: Re: English money > Yes > > Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any > legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. > Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of > valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your > own risk. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:18 PM > Subject: English money > > > Hi Folks, Got a question, which may seem dumb but I don't know. Do they use > English money in Scotland? Cheers Stephe From Hawkwind1999 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 28 05:59:45 2003 From: Hawkwind1999 at AOL.COM (Hawkwind1999 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 05:59:45 EDT Subject: Rock & Blues Custom Show Message-ID: Hi all Did anyone else here go ? It rained all afternoon turning the campsite into a mud bath, the sun came out and so did RAINBOW RISING, thank god for the sun ! If you were trying to impersonate Richie Blackmore I think you should spend more than ?10 on a wig... that's what it looked like to me. Next up BUDGIE, a group I had not seen since the early 80's, and they can still rock, The new guitarist was trying to make good quality simple tunes complicated, OK you can play guitar, just keep to the script next time please. If you ever get a sniff of a chance to see them do so. (Richard Chadwick was spotted watching the set from the front of the crowd). Molly Hatchet next, a poor mans Lynyrd Skynyrd, who's set went on and on, and resulted in less time for the Hawks...Nothing else to say. Finally HAWKWIND, from infront of the stage the sound was terrible, so a quick retreat of about 20 metres to get the full effect of the light show and better, balanced sound from the P.A. This was the first time that I had seen Arthur, and I shall reserve judgement until I have taken in a few more gigs. Midnight came very quickly, a quick encore and off. Highlight's of the day, the rain stopping and Budgie. If anyone else went please let me know what they thought of the Hawks, is it that I am getting to old for these outdoor events (yes I am), or was it not a good gig ? I would be interested in another persons point of view. Graham From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 28 06:15:45 2003 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:15:45 +0000 Subject: English money Message-ID: Just make sure to spend any Scottish notes you get in change before you go home. English banks and some shops can be ridiculously fussy and refuse to accept non-English Sterling notes. >From: Stephe Lindas > >Hi Folks, Got a question, which may seem dumb but I don't know. >Do they use English money in Scotland? Cheers Stephe _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jul 28 06:25:20 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 06:25:20 -0400 Subject: English money Message-ID: So there is Scotish currency? I know in Northern Ireland you can use English and Irish, but only Irish in Eire. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zebulon Mysterioso" To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: Re: English money > Just make sure to spend any Scottish notes you get in change before you go > home. > English banks and some shops can be ridiculously fussy and refuse to accept > non-English Sterling notes. > > >From: Stephe Lindas > > > >Hi Folks, Got a question, which may seem dumb but I don't know. > >Do they use English money in Scotland? Cheers Stephe > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jul 28 06:31:27 2003 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:31:27 +0100 Subject: English money In-Reply-To: <003a01c354f2$8c438580$0464a944@amyandstephe> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Stephe Lindas wrote: > So there is Scotish currency? I know in Northern Ireland you can use English > and Irish, but only Irish in Eire. Cheers Stephe Not Scottish currency, so much as Scottish versions of the banknotes. They;re as much legal tender in England as Scotland (and AIUI, that's dodgy ground), but most of England doesn't see them so often, so they're eassier to forge. HTH -- Kirsten Procter ghoti But what would I know? I've seen Sam Fox live From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 28 06:52:07 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:52:07 +0100 Subject: English money In-Reply-To: Stephe Lindas's message of Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:18:18 -0400 Message-ID: Stephe Lindas writes: > Hi Folks, Got a question, which may seem dumb but I don't know. Do > they use English money in Scotland? It becomes legal tender here only after you dip it in whisky. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 28 07:02:04 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:02:04 +0100 Subject: English money In-Reply-To: kprocter@CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK's message of Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:31:27 +0100 Message-ID: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > > So there is Scotish currency? > Not Scottish currency, so much as Scottish versions of the > banknotes. Not exactly true. Three banks in Scotland still have the right to issue private currency. Legally it must be reserved 100% at a one to one exchange rate with English currency. Very occasionally some ignorant sassenach will refuse to accept Scottish notes (especially the Pound notes). The best way to respond to this is simply to leave them holding the pint/grub/whatever. Once in Liverpool I'd had a haircut and the guy refused to take a Scottish 10 Pound note. I refused to pay in anything else and invited him to put my hair back. He inspected the note and asked who the guy on it was anyway. "Robert the Bruce" I told him. "What did he do for a living?" he asked. "Killed Englishmen" I replied, and he took the note. More fun was had in Wales though. At a bar in the middle of nowhere I paid for a couple of drinks with Pound notes. In England and Wales they only have Pound coins now. The barman took 'em and decided to get shot of them in change to the next customer. Later he came up and asked if we had any more. Seems that the cstomers who got 'em figured they wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else and would get another round just to hand them back to the barman. Since he was mostly dealing in passing trade, they were doubling his take. FoFP From admin at SHROPS.NET Mon Jul 28 07:41:39 2003 From: admin at SHROPS.NET (OS-NET) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:41:39 +0100 Subject: Rock & Blues Custom Show Message-ID: Hi... I was there, I work with Budgie Management..(www.budgie.uk.com) Backstage it was wet, miserable cold boring and very very muddy. We had to drive down a long mud path to get to the backstage area to be greeted by a miserable guy who said, "you can't park here there is no room go back to the top of the path" I thought sod you, I have just got down that path, I can't see how I can get back up. The fact Budgie were in my car and we all had the relevent passes seemed to matter not. We parked by our dressing room and thats where we stopped (no room, there was only 6 cars and van down there). We spent the next few hours sitting in the Green Room (A big tent with a Tea Urn) drinking Tea.. Had a chat with Alan Davey "nice chap" and Richard Chadwick was exited about Budgie being on as he had been a fan since the early days. The stage organisation was chaos in the extream, the PA was crap, the sound guy had no Idea and we were all falling over each other. Rainbow Rising were really nice guys but I did not enjoy their set. Our Band Budgie were OK but sound was crap, I went out front about 15 rows back and the Guitar amp was cutting over the PA. Molly Hatchet, the less said the better, they kept themselves to themselves all day. Hawkwind (My favorite Band), again I went 10 rows back and could not hear them.. Left around midnight only to be told by the gateman " you won't get your band out its too mudy, you will have to wait till morning" I got out...got home and dried out. See you all at the Hawkfest Pete Williamson ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: Rock & Blues Custom Show Hi all Did anyone else here go ? It rained all afternoon turning the campsite into a mud bath, the sun came out and so did RAINBOW RISING, thank god for the sun ! If you were trying to impersonate Richie Blackmore I think you should spend more than ?10 on a wig... that's what it looked like to me. Next up BUDGIE, a group I had not seen since the early 80's, and they can still rock, The new guitarist was trying to make good quality simple tunes complicated, OK you can play guitar, just keep to the script next time please. If you ever get a sniff of a chance to see them do so. (Richard Chadwick was spotted watching the set from the front of the crowd). Molly Hatchet next, a poor mans Lynyrd Skynyrd, who's set went on and on, and resulted in less time for the Hawks...Nothing else to say. Finally HAWKWIND, from infront of the stage the sound was terrible, so a quick retreat of about 20 metres to get the full effect of the light show and better, balanced sound from the P.A. This was the first time that I had seen Arthur, and I shall reserve judgement until I have taken in a few more gigs. Midnight came very quickly, a quick encore and off. Highlight's of the day, the rain stopping and Budgie. If anyone else went please let me know what they thought of the Hawks, is it that I am getting to old for these outdoor events (yes I am), or was it not a good gig ? I would be interested in another persons point of view. Graham From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 28 07:53:33 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:53:33 -0400 Subject: HW: Rock & Blues Setlist Message-ID: Master of the Universe The Gremlin Time & Confusion The Watcher The Right Stuff Paranoia Sun Ray Brainbox Pollution Angela Android The Golden Void Where Are They Now Silver Machine Assassins of Allah From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jul 28 08:17:32 2003 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:17:32 +0100 Subject: English money In-Reply-To: <200307281102.h6SB243H028670@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, M Holmes wrote: > kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > > > > So there is Scotish currency? > > > Not Scottish currency, so much as Scottish versions of the > > banknotes. > > Not exactly true. Three banks in Scotland still have the right to issue > private currency. Legally it must be reserved 100% at a one to one > exchange rate with English currency. Sorry, I couldn't remember quite how it worked and didnt' want to get it wrong *and* be complicatd at the same time. (FWIW, I've had English notes refused in Aberdeen) -- Kirsten Procter ghoti But what would I know? I've seen Sam Fox live From dplaw at IC24.NET Mon Jul 28 09:09:30 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:09:30 -0400 Subject: HW: contact your bank manager, you might need a loan Message-ID: just found this on e-bay, if nothing else it's worth keeping an eye on just to see how much they go for, check out - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2548178035&category=1573 hope that link works? regards dave From dplaw at IC24.NET Mon Jul 28 09:22:44 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:22:44 -0400 Subject: HW: contact your bank manager, you might need a loan Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:09:30 -0400, Dave Law wrote: >just found this on e-bay, if nothing else it's worth keeping an eye on >just to see how much they go for, check out - >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? >ViewItem&item=2548178035&category=1573 >hope that link works? >regards >dave if that link dosen't work, go to e-bay do a search for hawkwind and look on the last page, it's the one with the staring price of ?50.00 cheers dave From eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 28 09:55:52 2003 From: eddiejobson at HOTMAIL.COM (eddie jobson) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:55:52 +0000 Subject: HW: re another remix Message-ID: Sounds like the smurfs on helium! >From: Dave Law >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: HW: re another remix >Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 06:26:19 -0400 > >sorry the link is > http://www.aoyy04.dsl.pipex.com/LV15%20-%20Master%20of%20Heartache.mp3 >right that should do it! >regards >dave _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 28 13:23:16 2003 From: roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET (Roger) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:23:16 +0100 Subject: Rock & Blues Custom Show Message-ID: Hi Yes we went to the 20th Rock and Blues Custom Show We left our house in Wimblebury, Staffs about 5:30 on Friday (Rose had to work til 5) and travelled the 45 miles or so to Pentrich at maximum Scirrocco speed along a pleasantly traffic free A38, until we hit some roadworks round Derby. The weather had cleared up and with sunroof open in bright sunshine we pulled on to the Pentrich site about 6:45ish and STOPPED! We could see the entrance up the hill but there we stayed for 2 and a half bloody hours whilst bikes and people on foot were let in. Police and Security didnt seem to know what was happening no-one was being allowed out and no-one could get in.and we were all getting pissed off! some dumped the cars and walked in. Eventually we were let into the site proper and handed over the tickets, payed the parking charge and were directed through a corn field and held up again in a queue on muddy hill at the back end of the site. and there we waited again It's a good job the wife has a bladder like a football otherwise it could have got a bit messy! I used the hedge finally we werte directed out of the site and into a cowfield where we parked up and looked for a toilet- no chance we had to walk (wallow) nearly all the way back to the main arena to find one- but on the bright site it was not raining. Got to the stage area in time to see Molly Hatchett do their last number before the encore crowd didn't seem overly impressed but we didnt care as we hadn't missed Hawkwind We sort of filtered ourselves to the front on the left hand side of the stage (which seemed to be further forward than last year) and were "entertained" by the compaires That chap Clive from Doctor and the Medics and a DJ from Total Rock whose name escapes me. There was a delay as the inevitable sound problems were investigated, the compaires at on stage doing an "interview" with some of the crowd of engineers huddled around Simons keyboard. Finally Hawkwind began to play, sort off, sound was bad, Master of the Universe was dismal The Gremlin was better but suffered from the poor sound, Time was better still, The Watcher finally got me going, I remember looking up at the sky to check for rainclouds and seeing stars I began to relax a bit more as the band played The Right Stuff Still getting the occasional sound glitch, Simons keyboards suddenly blaring a couple of notes, Violin fading and dying etc Richard seemed to be having probs with the drum machine stuff Sun Ray was cool (maybe single material) Brainbox Pollution/Angela bang on The Golden Void was odd but Where are they now was bloody excellent! must keep that in. Silver Machine never did anything really, couldn't hear any of Dumpy's guitar( but they have done that before I think) Dave/Dumpy/Arthur vocals on Assasins were good but still couldn't hear Dumpy's guitar But I must say Alan's bass was consistantly audible throughout All in all a good try but people around us were drifting away before the end. Anyway, we chatted to a few people we had met and then trudged back to the car, wrapped ourselves in a quilt and consumed a bottle of Port whilst listening to a bit of Saviour Machine and some Fields of the Nephilim. Woke up about 9ish on Saturday, had a bit of breakfast and then had a wander around the stalls in the sunshine We left on Saturday afternoon around 1ish not really bothered about the Saturday evenings entertainment Dumpy phoned me when he got back on Sunday pm and was quite disappointed when I told him we couldn't hear him playing his guitar. He did say however that due to the weather there was no sound check as such, and during the evening Dave discussed with him doing more in the set as Simon had left the site to go back to the Hotel and couldn't get back on due to the traffic situation, but as we saw Simon got back in time. Roll on The Hawkfest and pray for the SUN to SHINE Roger and Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: Rock & Blues Custom Show Hi all Did anyone else here go ? It rained all afternoon turning the campsite into a mud bath, the sun came out and so did RAINBOW RISING, thank god for the sun ! If you were trying to impersonate Richie Blackmore I think you should spend more than ?10 on a wig... that's what it looked like to me. Next up BUDGIE, a group I had not seen since the early 80's, and they can still rock, The new guitarist was trying to make good quality simple tunes complicated, OK you can play guitar, just keep to the script next time please. If you ever get a sniff of a chance to see them do so. (Richard Chadwick was spotted watching the set from the front of the crowd). Molly Hatchet next, a poor mans Lynyrd Skynyrd, who's set went on and on, and resulted in less time for the Hawks...Nothing else to say. Finally HAWKWIND, from infront of the stage the sound was terrible, so a quick retreat of about 20 metres to get the full effect of the light show and better, balanced sound from the P.A. This was the first time that I had seen Arthur, and I shall reserve judgement until I have taken in a few more gigs. Midnight came very quickly, a quick encore and off. Highlight's of the day, the rain stopping and Budgie. If anyone else went please let me know what they thought of the Hawks, is it that I am getting to old for these outdoor events (yes I am), or was it not a good gig ? I would be interested in another persons point of view. Graham From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jul 29 14:47:50 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:47:50 +0000 Subject: One Eyed Bishops/SLOTERDIJK appearances this week and into August Message-ID: Hello Friends!!! Unfortunately our August 1 gig has been cancelled due to the venue closing!!!! If anyone in the Philadelphia/ South Jersey area has a place where we can do set, please let us know. We had a great lineup planned for this one, and some new material as well..Cheers! Mike >From: "Burro Mike" >To: cratylus7 at msn.com, dreamwind69 at hotmail.com, >drehner at head-cfa.harvard.edu, gsmithlang at aol.com, hchorstmann at aol.com, >headsmithuk at yahoo.co.uk, jessingram57 at hotmail.com, jmp at monitor.net, >joretta4 at aol.com, jperkins at mailcity.com, kevin.com at btinternet.com, >MJsocial at aol.com, mramberg at ncb.com, nexus at panix.com, p-addison at t-online.de, >rancity at comcast.net, swheately at flowgaurd.com, teahammers at cs.com, >warrendavis180 at msn.com, BCRich78 at comcast.net, hawkwind at yahoogroups.com, >sloterdijk-pod at yahoogroups.com, boc-l at listserv.spc.edu, legato at attbi.com, >themusibizbiz at aol.com, dparis23 at hotmail.com, rkotlarek at aol.com >CC: sloterdijk at msn.com >Subject: One Eyed Bishops/SLOTERDIJK appearances this week and into August >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:39:54 +0000 > > >Thursday, July 24th > >@ 'The Noyes Museum' , Oceanville, New Jersey > >South Jersey Songwriters meeting and showcase > >Time: 7:00 PM -? > >contact: http://www.noyesmuseum.org > >or Bill Roberts @ ( 609) 748-8795 >This is going to be a very cool evening, with lots of meeting, greeting & >networking! > > >Friday, July 25th: Borders Books & Music, Mays Landing, New Jersey > >Time: 8:00-10:00PM >Garden State Songwriters Songshare > >info: http://bordersstores.com/stores/store_pg.jsp?storeID=193 > > >Friday, August 1: The Daily Grind Coffeehouse, Mt. Holly, New Jersey >time: 7PM >contact: (609) 265-0088 > >The OEBs will open for 'Dark Lou's' 'INExperience', featuring Jay Adcock >of Sloterdijk keeping the beat for the Dr. Hawkwind tunes a must for this >show. Special guest bass player scheduled for this evening. > > > >Saturday August 16th: SLOTERDIJK @ 'SCATTERED PLANETS" 'Space Rock BBQ' > >for info contact doug Mcmahon @ doug at scatteredplanets.com > >or check out: http://scatteredplanets.com > > >For a complete listing of our shows info etc, visit these sites: > >http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com >http://www.sloterdijk.us >http://www.mp3.com/sloterdijk > > >Peace! Mike > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From tracy at HAKKINEN.COM Tue Jul 29 16:02:40 2003 From: tracy at HAKKINEN.COM (Tracy Williams) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:02:40 -0700 Subject: English money Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Tue Jul 29 17:54:15 2003 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:54:15 -0400 Subject: BOC: Anybody out there? Message-ID: It seems like ages since any BOC stuff has been posted. Are things really that dead, or is my e-mail screwed up? I'm still getting Hawkwind and OFF stuff. --Nick From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Tue Jul 29 18:10:18 2003 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:10:18 +0100 Subject: BOC: Anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <200307292154.RAA95902@www1524.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM wrote: >It seems like ages since any BOC stuff has been posted. Are things >really that dead, or is my e-mail screwed up? I'm still getting >Hawkwind and OFF stuff. Looks like the list is still there, but everybody is asleep. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com Read my blog! http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From AgentOF at AOL.COM Tue Jul 29 18:09:32 2003 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (AgentOF at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:09:32 EDT Subject: BOC: Anybody out there? Message-ID: The next big thing BOC is a huge gathering of fans to St. Louis. 4 shows in 2 nights. Should be some interesting sets and big time parties. August 15, 16. I'm going and I'm tying in some business with the trip. I need some BOC :-) chuck From Farflung at COMCAST.NET Tue Jul 29 18:28:05 2003 From: Farflung at COMCAST.NET (DRider) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:28:05 -0400 Subject: Rock & Blues thoughts Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Alan Linsley [mailto:alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK] I completely missed Rainbow Rising but apparently Dumpy guested with them. Heard a bit of Budgie on the way in (Panzer Division Destroyed) and saw them round off their set with Breadfan (of course) for the encore. They were pretty solid, wish I'd seen the whole set, it was nice to see they're still going. I was really looking forward to seeing Molly Hatchet coz I used to be partial to a bit of the ol' Southern Fried Boogie, but I couldn't stomach the singer spouting his nonsense about the US military keeping us all "free" (you know the kinda stuff, "our boys in Vietnam" blah blah), and when they started abusing an audience member who was videocam-ing them I decided to wander off to the beer tent (my Molly Hatchet LPs are going to the charity shop). The singer carried on trying to get the audience to shout "Hell yeah!" to which those around me at least replied with 2 entirely different words (the second of which was "off"). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please note: this is NOT the REAL Molly Hatchet!! Before you take your Molly Hatchet records to the charity shop, have a look to see who is on those records - namely Danny Joe Brown singing - not the wanker you saw! D-Rider Jacsonville, FL From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Tue Jul 29 22:17:15 2003 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:17:15 -0400 Subject: BOC: Anybody out there? Message-ID: I was just wondering why it's been so long. I guess because not much is going on except gigs. That St. Louis thing sounds awesome. I've got a really good friend out there. That would be a nice time to visit. Unfortunately. . . well, not really unfortunately. . . I'm going to see Motorhead-Dio-Iron Maiden in Pittsburgh in a couple weeks. That's gonna be my traveling concert for the summer. That's the drag about getting older, having young kids and all that. . . can't just pack up and go all over the country for shows, unless it's the F*&$in' "Wiggles" or something. But I'm not bitter. --Nick From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Wed Jul 30 06:33:46 2003 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:33:46 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Hawfest 2003 Message-ID: >>Kris wrote >Yes Arthur will be singing with Hawkwind. >Arthur's band for the festie is Instants Flight, who will also be doing >their own set. (There was a bit of a mix up with Rik's announcement :-) >Are you coming this year then? When in doubt... they suggest writing a list of for's and againsts don't they? FOR: 1. I thoroughly enjoyed last year. 2. My doppelganger already has her ticket.... ( I ought to come up just to keep an eye on her - she normally misbehaves and get's me a bad reputation - because people think 'she' is 'me'.) 3. What's an overdraft? 4. Just got back from the Derby Rock'n'Blues and am hungry for more HW & festies Against: 1. My overdraft 2. The location of the festival (it might be too late to get a visa which allows me off Portsea Island?) Darn - I can't think of any more 'againsts' - guess that's a yes then... >Best wishes >Kris See you there - sae on it's way to Honiton!! I've been foiled again!!! Maxine From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 30 09:06:57 2003 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:06:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: BBC Urban Guerilla Documentary Message-ID: BBC2 showed a very interesting documentary on the rise and fall of Germany's Baader-Meinhof group in the 1970s late last night. Background music to the film footage was, amongst other bands, Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk and Can. The film gave a real taste of the period and events that some of Calvert's songs reflect. The documentary called BAADER-MEINHOF: IN LOVE WITH TERROR seems to have been repeated a couple of times on BBC Four over the past year so keep an eye out for it and you might see it again. From maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK Wed Jul 30 09:47:43 2003 From: maxine.wesley at PORT.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:47:43 +0100 Subject: Off Derby Rock'n'Blues Message-ID: Just started back at work - had the foresight to arrange 2 days annual leave post festival to catch up on sleep & sanity. > Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:23:16 +0100 > From: Roger > Subject: Re: Rock & Blues Custom Show > Yes we went to the 20th Rock and Blues Custom Show > We left our house in Wimblebury, Staffs about 5:30 on Friday (Rose had > to work til 5) and travelled the 45 miles or so to Pentrich at maximum > Scirrocco speed along a pleasantly traffic free A38, until we hit some > roadworks round Derby. The weather had cleared up and with sunroof > open in bright sunshine we pulled on to the Pentrich site about > 6:45ish and STOPPED! We could see the entrance up the hill but there > we stayed for 2 and a half bloody hours whilst bikes and people on > foot were let in. Police and Security didnt seem to know what was > happening no-one was being allowed out and no-one could get in.and we > were all getting pissed off! Sorry to hear that... and your timing was probably partly the problem - i think we arrived on the friday at about 2.30pm & there was no queue at all - not even for us 'cage' drivers. Far be it for me to defend the outlaws ;-) but cars have always been discrimited against at the show - well after all it is a bikers festival !!! > finally we were directed out of the site and into a > cowfield where we parked up and looked for a toilet- no chance we had > to walk (wallow) nearly all the way back to the main arena to find > one That's what we thought too.. but as the weekend progressed more and more toilets came to light - there were 2/3 in the car parking field right over the entrance side which we didn't find until we were leaving..... and they were regulalry emptied/provisioned with bog roll..... considering there were 1000's of hairy arsed bikers there I was well impressed with the loos... thoughts of Devon!! ;-{ ? > Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 11:32:48 +0100 > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?= > Subject: Rock & Blues thoughts > Let's try and give you a taste of the atmosphere first - just think of > Rock n Blues as your classic biker fest. A field in the middle of a > gorgeous part of the English countryside turned into a carpet of mud > and crushed beer cans in a matter of hours. There was a small clearing up operation on the saturday morning but by sunday morning the site was a sight to be seen, acres of shiny flattened cans glistening in the sun.... > You had your tent selling > official Outlaws MC merchandise, which I thought was a bit bizarre - > when I were a lad I was taught the Angels belted you if they caught > you wearing anything resembling "their" colours, now they sell them to > you. A ploy by the Outlaws no doubt. ...after all if another 'faction' turned up I figure they would have felt mildly intimidated by the increase in outlaws 'membership' , bless 'um - they are a clever bunch! re: hawkwind set > I enjoyed it, and it looked like the band did too. It was a > shortened, slightly more biker-friendly open-air version of the May > tour. The band were tight, all the rockier numbers were solid and > powerful. Hear hear... (tell the truth I can't remember much detail of the performance)- just know I enjoyed the set. As for saturday - I'm bloody glad I stayed for it - Thin Lizzy - (with Scott Gorham) phenominal... Stranglers on form and one hellova party in the beer tent - unmissable. Thanks to the Outlaws for hosting the event & all the bands for playing their best. Maxine From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Jul 30 10:58:41 2003 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:58:41 +0100 Subject: Off Derby Rock'n'Blues Message-ID: Maxine Wesley wrote: > Just started back at work - had the foresight to arrange 2 days annual leave post > festival to catch up on sleep & sanity. > Lightweight!! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 30 11:44:59 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:44:59 +0100 Subject: Off Derby Rock'n'Blues In-Reply-To: Maxine Wesley's message of Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:47:43 +0100 Message-ID: > > Let's try and give you a taste of the atmosphere first - just think of > > Rock n Blues as your classic biker fest. A field in the middle of a > > gorgeous part of the English countryside turned into a carpet of mud > > and crushed beer cans in a matter of hours. Yeah well, some of us spent an hour with a hoover picking up the cans around the front of the stage. Admittedly some of us were well out to lunch and thought for some reason that this was fun. > > You had your tent selling > > official Outlaws MC merchandise, which I thought was a bit bizarre - > > when I were a lad I was taught the Angels belted you if they caught > > you wearing anything resembling "their" colours, now they sell them to > > you. Don't knock it. I got a video of 2001 at Donnington with some Hawkwind on it, plus interview. I guess I may have to recall all those bikers tapes for an update. Maybe I'll even get the trades done this time. > Hear hear... (tell the truth I can't remember much detail of the > performance)- just know I enjoyed the set. Does that happen to you too? > Thanks to the Outlaws for hosting the event & all the bands for > playing their best. Ditto. > > Maxine FoFP From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Wed Jul 30 12:08:03 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:08:03 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation Message-ID: Hey... With it just being a week away, I've started to (finally) look into how exactly I'm going to get to the fest from Preston Bahnhof via public transportation. Uh...anyone else come up with anything? I struck out. 'Commuter-type' trains seem useless...the one to Blackpool stops at Salwick VERY occasionally, but that's not much closer than Preston itself, so a waste of time there. The one to Lancaster is completely worthless 'cause it never stops *anywhere* in between, not even Garstang itself; which seems like a decent-sized community worth an occasional pause, but then that's coming from a Swiss-perspective where trains accomodate individual dairy farms. Buses? No good either, I'm afraid. The city buses from Preston hardly go outside the nearest suburbs, so Cottam is the end of the line there. (Still well too far for a comfortable hike w/ backpack.) The regular 'inter-city' bus (40/41) from Preston to Garstang (and Lancaster) *would* be nice as it stops in Catteral, just to the east of St. Michaels. But it says it only runs when 'school' is in session, and I'm guessing that the first week of August is exactly the wrong time for this to be available. Garstang itself has this 'Super 8' bus that goes from the center of town out west toward the festival, and you can even call up and request that they take you exactly where you want to go. But there's no way even to get to freaking Garstang in the first place, so what good is that? Now, I also found a timetable for a mythical Bus 180/182 run by "Stagecoach in Lancashire" that goes between Preston and Blackpool via a NW route that goes near the festival along the Inskip-Great Eccleston stretch. And it (would) run every hour. BUT...the busline's own website has absolutely no information about this particular line, suggesting that the timetable I saw (on ukbus.co.uk) is out-of-date (?), and that this bus has been eliminated. So...I'm assuming that I'm not the only one coming without their own means of local transportation in the area. Did anybody else manage to find something that they can confirm *does* exist? BTW, what time is the festival supposed to 'start' on Friday? Both as far as music is concerned, and also when we're allowed to set up camp and such. I didn't see a time or anything at hawkwind.com. I guess I'll be arriving in Preston at around 2:15 in the afternoon Friday. Is there any interest/possibility of (a) group(s) getting together there and sharing some sort of chartered transportation out to the grounds, such that we all don't have to individually taxi out there at the expense of many English (or Scottish) pounds? Just wondering...Grakkl (FAA) P.S. My train-connection layover in Manchester is 10 minutes. What is the likelihood of such a connection being missed due to the lateness of the first train? (Just so I know whether to plan for that extra hour of travel time...like I do now coming from Germany-to-Switzerland...although never the other way around.) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 30 12:15:11 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:15:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation In-Reply-To: Henderson Keith's message of Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:08:03 +0200 Message-ID: Henderson Keith writes: > P.S. My train-connection layover in Manchester is 10 minutes. > What is the likelihood of such a connection being missed due to > the lateness of the first train? Totally excellent really. FoFP From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Wed Jul 30 12:26:45 2003 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:26:45 CDT Subject: BOC: Anybody out there? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:00:02 CDT." <200307300900.h6U902ug023955@ns1.ispnetinc.net> Message-ID: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM writes: >It seems like ages since any BOC stuff has been posted. Are things really >that dead, or is my e-mail screwed up? How about this: Anybody know when the next round of reissues are supposed to come out from Sony? m@ +-mbraun at urbana.css.mot.com-+--Experiments that failed too many times -----BOC+ | Matt Braun -- Motorola, | Transformations that were too hard to find | | Urbana, IL Design Centre | Poison's in my bloodstream, poison's in my pride| +Simulation Technology Team-+--- I'm after rebellion--I'll settle for lies. --+ From youless at COX.NET Wed Jul 30 12:37:33 2003 From: youless at COX.NET (Steve Youles) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:37:33 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation Message-ID: I'm impressed with the amount of research you've evidently done and I doubt anyone else will come up with any better answers unless they live locally. Taxis are always the best (only?) bet... The site is open from midday Friday, I believe, and last year the first band started playing sometime between 6pm and 7pm - I assume; that was Litmus and they were on stage when we arrived (7pm ish) and were setting up our tents. I doubt very much that you will make your connection with only a 10-minute layover at Manchester, so best to plan on the extra hour in transit. After the Swiss / German rail systems, the British one will be...well, different... Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:08:03 +0200, Henderson Keith wrote: >Hey... > >With it just being a week away, I've started to (finally) >look into how exactly I'm going to get to the fest from >Preston Bahnhof via public transportation. > >Uh...anyone else come up with anything? I struck out. > >BTW, what time is the festival supposed to 'start' on Friday? >Both as far as music is concerned, and also when we're allowed >to set up camp and such. I didn't see a time or anything at >hawkwind.com. >P.S. My train-connection layover in Manchester is 10 minutes. >What is the likelihood of such a connection being missed due to >the lateness of the first train? (Just so I know whether to plan >for that extra hour of travel time...like I do now coming from >Germany-to-Switzerland...although never the other way around.) From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Wed Jul 30 12:54:09 2003 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (=?iso-8859-1?q?JCMoriaud?=) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:54:09 +0200 Subject: BOC: Anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <200307301626.h6UGQkIF007755@chestburster.urbana.css.mot.com> Message-ID: --- Matthew Braun a ?crit : > nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM writes: > >It seems like ages since any BOC stuff has been posted. Are things really > >that dead, or is my e-mail screwed up? > > How about this: Anybody know when the next round of reissues are > supposed to come out from Sony? Yes, we want that "Black and Blue" DVD or nothing! ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran?ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Wed Jul 30 13:16:45 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:16:45 +0000 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' Message-ID: Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI Steve Hillage Compilation 'Light in the Sky' What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b side collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is just a phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is truly awesome. The compilation skips 'Rainbow Dome Musick', 'Open', and 'For to Next/And Not Or', and takes all it's tracks from the first 5 albums. The sound is bolt clear, so the Hillage remasters should be worth the wait. I hadn't realised 'GREEN' was such gem, it must be based on the 4 tracks I'm hearing on this compilation. Rich W From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jul 30 13:43:28 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:43:28 -0400 Subject: BOC: next round of remasters Message-ID: I thought I heard a long time ago that Spectres, at least, was already in the process of getting the remaster treatment. I wonder if SONY is the cause of the delay, or it's something/someone else? Brian obCDs> Bevis Frond "New River Head" 2CD remaster! From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Wed Jul 30 14:06:26 2003 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:06:26 +0100 Subject: BOC: next round of remasters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brian Halligan wrote: >I thought I heard a long time ago that Spectres, at least, was already in >the process of getting the remaster treatment. I wonder if SONY is the cause >of the delay, or it's something/someone else? Anyone know of any plans to remaster the live albums, especially Some Enchanted Evening; I'd love to hear an extended version of that one featuring the whole set. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com Read my blog! http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 30 15:55:50 2003 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:55:50 +0100 Subject: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' (+Bill Nelson+calling Andy G!!) Message-ID: Rich Green is superb. The Glorious Om Riff you will know from Gong (I'm still convinced Nik T burbles away at the end of the track - he never really answered that question - he gets a name check on the original album sleeve). Green was recorded at about the same time as Xitintoday (in my humble opinion probably the best solo and ex-Hawkwind family release). For recent things from Steve Hillage I would suggest anything that he has done with Rachid Taha, the most recent release is a live recording, with Steve on half of it, superb. Jonny at GAS says this gig has been released on DVD but as yet I haven't seen it (ANDY G AT CDS CHECK IT OUT!). Can't wait to catch up with System 7 ho hum a matter of time - crikey if Bill Nelson can get round to touring it is only a matter of ime until Steve does it. Bill hits Glasgow in September - anyone going? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Rich Warren To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET Date: 30 July 2003 18:27 Subject: OFF: Steve Hillage 'Light in the Sky' >Having been a Gong Fan for many moons, I picked the new Virgin/EMI Steve Hillage >Compilation 'Light in the Sky' > >What a cracking album, very glad I picked it up indeed, has a superb b side >collaboration with Tim Blake called 'Shimmer', and 'Ether Ships' is just a >phenomenal track. 'Activation Meditation/The Glorious Om Riff' is truly awesome. > >The compilation skips 'Rainbow Dome Musick', 'Open', and 'For to Next/And Not >Or', and takes all it's tracks from the first 5 albums. > >The sound is bolt clear, so the Hillage remasters should be worth the wait. I >hadn't realised 'GREEN' was such gem, it must be based on the 4 tracks I'm >hearing on this compilation. > >Rich W > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 30 16:11:53 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:11:53 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest, public transportation Message-ID: I haven't phoned the tourist office yet but I was kind of assuming that the only realistic way of getting there from Preston will be taxi. It's about 12 miles - ish so the cost could be in the region of ?20 or so (at a guess). Getting a group of folks to meet up in Preston station might be one possible arrangement? > P.S. My train-connection layover in Manchester is 10 minutes. > What is the likelihood of such a connection being missed due to > the lateness of the first train? (Just so I know whether to plan > for that extra hour of travel time...like I do now coming from > Germany-to-Switzerland...although never the other way around.) There are various scenarios here (in order of liklihood) - (1) Your incoming train will be late and your outgoing train will leave on time - MISS (2) Your incoming train will be more or less on time and your outgoing train will leave on time - PROBABLY MISS because there is no way you will be able (a) to find out which platform you need to be on or (b) get to the other platform which will be about 15 mins walk away over bridges, under subways, up endless stairs and at exactly the opposite end of the station you started from (3) Your incoming train will be late and your outgoing train will be late - HIT (however this will only happen if your outgoing train is coming in from somewhere else. If it's starting from Manchester you are doomed!). On balance I'm afraid you will almost certainly miss this connection and given that if you do make it - you will be the last person on - you'll have been running all the way with a big heavy rucksack - and there will be NO SEATS of any kind whatsoever and you'll have to stand all the way - I would recommend a period of quiet contemplation over a cup of strong coffee watching the anxious comings and goings of all those other travellers forced to associate with one another in one of Britains finest social meeting places - the Great British railway station. Good luck! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Thu Jul 31 04:39:57 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:39:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Changes at Aural Innovations Message-ID: AURAL INNOVATIONS NEWS I have decided that the July 2003 issue of Aural Innovations (online this past weekend) will be the last of the quarterly "issues" I will publish. No, Aural Innovations is not going away, and I certainly have no intention of slowing the momentum we've built up. But after nearly 6 years of always being on time I'm finding it increasingly difficult to keep up with the regularly scheduled issues. But another big part of this decision is that with the immediacy of the internet it just doesn't seem to make sense to try and simulate a printed publication. I'll complete reviews that sometimes sit for up to 2 months waiting for the next issue to go online. The "have it NOW" aspect of the internet allows AI to be a "publication", without the need to try and give the illusion that we're a publication that people can hold in their hands, which is essentially what I think the quarterly index page format attempts to do. So here's my plan... Because the radio shows are fairly frequent people get regular announcements from me anyway. So as we complete reviews and articles I want to get them out there. So if I've got some reviews/articles/interviews ready, I can include those with my radio announcements as part of an overall "What's New" release. I'll add a "What's New" section so people can track everything (and hopefully become regular visitors) and I'll also break the alpha index down into individual letters of the alphabet for easier alpha reading, which I know many readers do. I'll also add a continually updated NEWS section where readers can go to get the latest news about what's happening in the space/psych world. I try to include news in my radio updates but I receive a lot more than gets included in those. I will also do the radio shows more frequently as I believe we get a lot of "bang for the buck" from them in terms of exposure for the bands. The radio shows are easy to do, often taking not more much time to create than it takes to do a single CD review. And because so many of the CD's I get are sent out to reviewers, I never seem to have time to hear that music for myself, even though I make copies before sending them out. So unless I'm the one that reviews the music it tends not to get played on the shows. I need time to hear the stuff that others are reviewing because there's most certainly great music that is getting ignored on the radio shows. I'll also be adding at least 2 new radio shows: An all-Electronic music show and a Stoner rock show, though the Space Rock shows will still be the primary focus. I think there are lots of benefits to this change, with more frequent updates of the site, more radio play, and more time to focus on the site and publicizing AI. Things will proceed as usual with the radio shows for the time being while I reoganize the web site. I've got lots of ideas about how this will all work and I foresee it evolving over the next year, none of which will involve getting any more rest than before... and I wouldn't have it any other way. Your comments and sugggestions are most welcome. Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 31 05:38:39 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:38:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation In-Reply-To: Steve Youles's message of Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:37:33 -0400 Message-ID: Steve Youles writes: > I'm impressed with the amount of research you've evidently done and I doubt > anyone else will come up with any better answers unless they live locally. > Taxis are always the best (only?) bet... That's how I usually got from Derby to Pentrich. Remember that in Britain it'd only be seen as marginally eccentric to walk up and down a platform or even a train with a paper sign saying "Anyone for a Hawkfest taxi share?". I've had a taxi from Bristol to Glasters that way. > I doubt very much that you will make your connection with only a 10-minute > layover at Manchester, so best to plan on the extra hour in transit. After > the Swiss / German rail systems, the British one will be...well, > different... If we had a government that could make the trains run on time, we wouldn't be allowed rock festivals anyway. FoFP From CWarburton at OAG.COM Thu Jul 31 06:14:21 2003 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (CWarburton at OAG.COM) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:14:21 +0100 Subject: BOC: BFY on RIAA hitlist Message-ID: If anyone has been following the story of the RIAA witch-hunt for illicit mp3 sharing: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/31/0056254&mode=thread&tid=123&tid= 126&tid=158&tid=95&tid=99 The chart that's linked to (an excel spredsheet) shows BFY as one of the "most likely to get busted for" tracks, but no other BOC (& NO Hawkwind). Cheers ChrisW From petertrance at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 31 08:05:31 2003 From: petertrance at HOTMAIL.COM (PETER WILKINSON) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:05:31 +0000 Subject: Hawkfest, public transportation Message-ID: THERE ARE BUSES FROM PRESTON TO LANCASTER THAT RUN ALONG THE A6. THERE IS POSSIBLY A BUS THAT ACTUALLY PASSES THE SITE AS I HAVE BEEN THERE AND SEEN BUS STOPS ROUND THERE (DO I NEED TO GET A LIFE!!???) WHY NOT CHECK ON INTERNET RE BUS SERVICES TO ST MARTIN ONTHE WYE?? GOOD LUCK PS THE SITE IS GREAT >From: Jill Strobridge >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.ISPNETINC.NET >Subject: Re: Hawkfest, public transportation >Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:11:53 +0100 > >I haven't phoned the tourist office yet but I was kind of assuming that >the only realistic way of getting there from Preston will be taxi. >It's about 12 miles - ish so the cost could be in the region of ??20 or >so (at a guess). Getting a group of folks to meet up in Preston >station might be one possible arrangement? > > > P.S. My train-connection layover in Manchester is 10 minutes. > > What is the likelihood of such a connection being missed due to > > the lateness of the first train? (Just so I know whether to plan > > for that extra hour of travel time...like I do now coming from > > Germany-to-Switzerland...although never the other way around.) > >There are various scenarios here (in order of liklihood) - >(1) Your incoming train will be late and your outgoing train will leave >on time - MISS >(2) Your incoming train will be more or less on time and your outgoing >train will leave on time - PROBABLY MISS because there is no way you >will be able (a) to find out which platform you need to be on or (b) get >to the other platform which will be about 15 mins walk away over >bridges, under subways, up endless stairs and at exactly the opposite >end of the station you started from >(3) Your incoming train will be late and your outgoing train will be >late - HIT (however this will only happen if your outgoing train is >coming in from somewhere else. If it's starting from Manchester you are >doomed!). > >On balance I'm afraid you will almost certainly miss this connection and >given that if you do make it - you will be the last person on - you'll >have been running all the way with a big heavy rucksack - and there will >be NO SEATS of any kind whatsoever and you'll have to stand all the >way - I would recommend a period of quiet contemplation over a cup of >strong coffee watching the anxious comings and goings of all those other >travellers forced to associate with one another in one of Britains >finest social meeting places - the Great British railway station. > >Good luck! >jill >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jill Strobridge >----------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Thu Jul 31 10:17:54 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:17:54 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation Message-ID: Peter suggests... >THERE ARE BUSES FROM PRESTON TO LANCASTER THAT RUN ALONG THE A6. THERE IS >POSSIBLY A BUS THAT ACTUALLY PASSES THE SITE AS I HAVE BEEN THERE AND SEEN >BUS STOPS ROUND THERE (DO I NEED TO GET A LIFE!!???) WHY NOT CHECK ON >INTERNET RE BUS SERVICES TO ST MARTIN ONTHE WYE?? Perhaps because that's not the name of the town?! :) Try St. Michael's on Wyre. But anyway...I searched again, and for some reason came up with a completely different listing for the 40/41 line between Preston & Lancaster. And while it does include some runs that are listed for 'schooldays' only, most of them run daily. (So I guess what I saw before was just a 'subset' of the 40/41 line that was specifically for schooldays. And I think I ignored the important timetable 'cause it was given as Morecambe- Blackpool or something, and I don't really know the area so well, so this didn't seem to be what I wanted, at first.) So, what's most interesting is that some are listed as Service No. 42, and those start in Blackpool and go eastward on the A586 and (as Peter suggests) straight through St. Michael's. And then skips Preston, but rather heads north on the A6 up through Churchtown to Garstang and points north (i.e., joins the regular 40/41 route). The ride from Blackpool (Talbot Rd. Bus Station) to St. Michael's is 25 minutes, and departs at 8:58, 10:08, 12:08, 14:08, 15:15, 16:38, 17:25, 18:25, 19:15, and 20:15 (M-F). The other way (for Monday travel) it seems only to run (from St. Michael's) just at 9:35, 12:35, 15:35, 16:35, etc., so unless you plan on staying all day in the area, it seems important to decide whether to head back relatively early in the morning, or go at half-past-12. (I hope this is all correct.) So that means (unless this timetable is rubbish), that the best place to head (instead of Preston) is to Blackpool. It's a little farther on the train to get to, but it seems like it's worth it to make smoother connections. So...from London (Luton), the best connection (still only one change) is now via Stockport (as opposed to Manchester; same route I guess, but different place to change trains), especially since this takes you to Blackpool North (as opposed to South) and that station is right on Talbot Road, so it can't be far from the bus depot (since it's not a very long road). Also the layover in Stockport is 20 minutes and more likely to catch the connection. Oddly, on Monday it only gives me option to change in Manchester-Piccadilly, with that dodgy 10-minute window. I'll need to go super-early so as not to miss my flight (again). The damn hotels there cost more per night than the silly roundtrip flight to Zuerich! Now of course, if these buses run as the schedule I have now suggests, one *could* still go via Preston, but then it would take a bus change in Garstang to get into St. Michaels, both coming and going. And from what I can tell, the times don't link together very well, plus they go via two different stops, so you'd have to walk to the other stop to find the 42 bus (from the 41 bus), and vice versa. Seems easier to go via Blackpool N./Talbot Rd. both ways. or perhaps "Straight through to Nairobi, and then ask..." Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Did anyone else notice that a tributary (or vice versa) of the Wyre near St. Michaels is called Brock (River/Creek/whatever)? P.P.S. Does Sunday have an evening (music) program? It says three nights camping included, which I've taken to be Fri., Sat. and Sun. nights into Monday morning (as opposed to Thurs. night into Fri.). Which leads me to believe that something should be happening Sun. evening, correct? P.P.P.S. I'm familiar (sadly) with English trains...why they shake one about so very much is something I don't understand. ICE trains here in central Europe are so smooth, that you have to look out to the ground to see if you've actually started moving or not. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 31 11:16:30 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:16:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation In-Reply-To: Henderson Keith's message of Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:17:54 +0200 Message-ID: Henderson Keith writes: > P.P.P.S. I'm familiar (sadly) with English trains...why they shake > one about so very much is something I don't understand. They run on the sleepers rather than the rails. The rails have the wrong sorts of leaves on them. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 31 11:36:13 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:36:13 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Big Brother anyone? Message-ID: How about an online game to pick the perfect fantasy lineup? We pool all the main members first. Then each week we cast a vote. The top two then go into a final vote to walk the plank. Once we're down to six, we have the fantasy lineup. Even if it's the Lemmy Horror of six drummers... No intent to offend anyone of course, just a bit of fun... FoFP The Crying Doctors: Lucy came home with a great anecdote. Seems she'd been at a hospital dinner with some consultants. They got to talking about music and one of the senior blokes turned out to be a Des O'Connor fan. It takes all sorts though and everyone was cool with that. The guy then mentioned that it was important to play the music quite loud and that he had an amp that went up to 12. He was quite baffled as to why half the table collapsed into hysterics. I've suggested that Lucy get him the video for xmas... From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Jul 31 11:44:19 2003 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:44:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation In-Reply-To: <200307311516.h6VFGU1H023149@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: But gents please remember that running on the sleepers was a decision by the last government to introduce public enemas to help reduce weight on trains and make them appear faster. Worried of the backlash (or is that backwash) They decided that placing the train on the sleepers provided the desired effect, for surely that can be the only reason why there's so much shit on the train lines at train stations............ don't look down !!!!! all lines in every station are the same !!!! digusted of Bristol...... PS hope everyone has a top time at the Hawk fest, Been offline for while, Work got in the way some what..... Any news on the new CD front ? hope you lucky types get to hear a few more tracks from it.... Hope the weather is good to you all, and I hope Martin Griffin still has that stylish tash !!! it ruled Toodle pip iain M Holmes wrote: > Henderson Keith writes: > > > P.P.P.S. I'm familiar (sadly) with English trains...why they shake > > one about so very much is something I don't understand. > > They run on the sleepers rather than the rails. The rails have the wrong > sorts of leaves on them. > > FoFP > From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Thu Jul 31 11:53:02 2003 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:53:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Spare tents Message-ID: ----- Hello folks, I have been asked by a couple of the bands (Drunk in Public and Hawkwind!) If anyone out there has a spare tent that they could loan. The bands are all staying on site but need a bit of help! Thanks Kris From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Thu Jul 31 11:54:32 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:54:32 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation Message-ID: To the other American folk... >But gents please remember that running on the sleepers sleepers = ties >I hope Martin Griffin still has that stylish tash!!! Tash bedeutet Schnurrbart, oder? Grakkl (FAA) From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Thu Jul 31 11:56:56 2003 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:56:56 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest Sunday Message-ID: There is a full evening of entertainment on both stages on Sunday evening. Drunk in Public (acoustic Levellers) will be headlining on Sunday night. Camping will be Fri, Sat and Sun nights. Any other questions?...... ;-) Kris From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 31 12:06:22 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:06:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Spare tents In-Reply-To: Hawkwind's message of Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:53:02 +0100 Message-ID: Hawkwind writes: > ----- > Hello folks, > I have been asked by a couple of the bands (Drunk in Public and > Hawkwind!) If anyone out there has a spare tent that they could loan. > The bands are all staying on site but need a bit of help! I'll bring what I can. I think I have 3 spares, though two are small and the other survived 2 Years of the Wet at Glasters and still has the mud to prove it. FoFP From cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET Thu Jul 31 14:04:34 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at COMCAST.NET (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:04:34 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation Message-ID: Good Luck Battling Through the Trauma of the UK public transport system :-) See You All at Fest in a few days. Rich W > Henderson Keith writes: > > > P.P.P.S. I'm familiar (sadly) with English trains...why they shake > > one about so very much is something I don't understand. > > They run on the sleepers rather than the rails. The rails have the wrong > sorts of leaves on them. > > FoFP From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jul 31 15:21:27 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:21:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation In-Reply-To: ; from keith.henderson@PSI.CH on Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:17:54PM +0200 Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:17:54PM +0200, Henderson Keith wrote: > P.S. Did anyone else notice that a tributary (or vice versa) of the > Wyre near St. Michaels is called Brock (River/Creek/whatever)? Living in Southern Ontario, one gets used to that. I grew up across a fence from the original campus of Brock University (and learned programming on their mainframe -- Burroughs B5500, if anyone cares -- up the hill on their current campus). Brock's Monument is a good place for a picnic. (It's the thing like Nelson's Column at Trafalgar Square, but out in the woods with nothing apparently around. To a Londoner, I'm sure it would look rather like that lone lamppost in Narnia.) Every town has a Brock Street/Road/whatever. A friend used to live on the one in St. Catharines; the one in Toronto is mostly notable for being home to one of the latest-closing Beer Stores in the city :-) > P.P.P.S. I'm familiar (sadly) with English trains...why they shake > one about so very much is something I don't understand. ICE trains > here in central Europe are so smooth, that you have to look out to > the ground to see if you've actually started moving or not. Depends on the train. The Virgin one up from London to Manchester is smooth as can be (they even have little LED displays to indicate reserved seats). The rattletrap little train from Manchester to Southport was quite a shock by comparison... (I'm guessing that the Stockport->Blackpool run will resemble the latter.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / When I came back around from the dark side, there in front of me would be the landing area where the crew was, and the Earth, all in the view of my window. I couldn't help but think that there in front of me was all of humanity, except me. - Michael Collins, Apollo 11 Command Module Pilot From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jul 31 15:56:17 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:56:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkfest, public transportation Message-ID: > P.S. Did anyone else notice that a tributary (or vice versa) of the > Wyre near St. Michaels is called Brock (River/Creek/whatever)? Brock - Celtic/gaelic form of badger derived from breac - speckled or variegated, especially in black and white (this close to Cumbria some Gaelic placenames will still be lurking around the landscape). sorry - knee-jerk reaction there 8-) jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 31 17:54:22 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:54:22 +0100 Subject: HW: EMI Reissues In-Reply-To: <006601c30e7a$176e2800$59aa6fd4@lucidzoo> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Captain Bl at ck wrote: [replying to me, about _Warrior_] > > Come to that I can't really find Powell on this album either. Is > > it just that he played round King so well I can't separate the kits, or is > > he just not given enough space in the studio miking, or (heresy) was he > > just not a very distinctive drummer? Yours, > > Jon > > Jon, > > What exactly are you using for a hi-fi system? > > Alan Powell was a suberb drummer - he played along side King on Assualt & > Battery, Opa Loka, Magnu, Dying Seas, Kings Of Speed, Reefer Madness, > Steppenwolf, Kerb Crawler, Aubergine.... > > Spiral Galaxy is all Alan Powell, as are City of Lagoons and Chronoglide > Skyway. > > The guy's sense of timing was just awesome, man. It's actually been this long since I played _Warrior_ again, not sure what was wrong there, but I gave it a more careful ear this time. I malign Powell, I admit. `Spiral Galaxy' is very nicely drummed, made by it in some places. And there's one trademark fill that turns up in `Kings of Speed' and `Assault and Battery' which I can identify as his because it's not right for King somehow. And there's some weirdness in `Opa Loka' which makes two kits sound plausible and I can as I said actually hear them on `Magnu', so the rest is actually only one kit or spoken word, fine... I guess the answer I was after was `played round King so well' then, but I still have this impression that there should be loads of drum sound because there are two drummers and they just don't seem to have made the most of that. I was wondering if a remaster would bring out stuff I can't hear. Stuff I can't hear, for what it's worth, on an Aiwa XC-333 playing through a Sansui A-500 (with the maddest mixed-up outputs I ever saw but as far I can tell now correctly rigged) into and out of a pair of Phillips 9340 DRC Mk IIs, which are admittedly connected to the amp with network cable not speaker cable because it was free and to hand and the speakers are on loan, but still. Will it pass, or should I wait to relisten to _Return To Earth_ on something better before I finally give an opinion? Since you asked... :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: Michael Moorcock and the Deep Fix - _The New Worlds Fair_ -- "If you are rich, throw away your documents. If you are poor, do so also." (Egyptian proverb) Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College