From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sat Feb 1 00:00:08 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:00:08 -0500 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures In-Reply-To: <0b3201c2c1ab$cc33a420$e7428118@se1.client2.attbi.com>; from Hawkwind@ATTBI.COM on Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 07:18:32PM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 07:18:32PM -0500, DRider wrote: > I never liked the Buggles. I hated the Video Killed The Radio Star song I liked that -- but only until I heard the version by Bruce Woolley and the Camera Club. A much, much better take on it than the Buggles' -- a total new-wave period piece. Thomas Dolby played keyboards, as I just now found out... You can't really call either version a cover; the song was written by Woolley, Horn, and Downs, and both versions came out in 1979. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sat Feb 1 00:21:34 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:21:34 -0500 Subject: OFF: There is no Master - We are alone In-Reply-To: <01d501c2c274$81b14af0$105127d9@bernard>; from rich@BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK on Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 12:15:16AM -0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 12:15:16AM -0000, Richard Lockwood wrote: > > The whole concept of the master must dissolve > > in accordance with the masters will. > > > > (The Eagle Laughed and Snatched the..............) > > > > I give in. "Herring"? "Lobster"? "Hot Air Balloon"? "Rack of Ribs"? > "Tarmac gang"? Scarf, presumably, if it's the Master's doing. I imagine the tardis is a bit heavy to lift, even for Gwaihir. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Feb 1 00:41:42 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 05:41:42 -0000 Subject: HW: Dave Brock is "Hawkwind-Buddha" Message-ID: Christian, Get off the hard drugs. I'm sure that beneath that unpleasant incoherent Nazi exterior, there's quite a coherent unpleasant Nazi. LEAVE THE AMPHETAMINES ALONE. They don't do you any good. At least you don't advertise your race-hate website any more. I'm sure if I met you we could have a perfectly civilised beer and a chat - just grow up and stop talking incomprensible and inconsequential bollocks will you? And he used to be such a nice boy... The offer of a beer's always open. Cheers, Rich. > DAVE BROCK is "HAWKWIND-BUDDHA", NOT ME! > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Feb 1 00:42:46 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 05:42:46 -0000 Subject: HW: NIK: Nikwind report Message-ID: >Saw Nik and his merry band of warriors at Bilston last night. Nice to see Nik paying tribute at the shrine of our lord Noddy... :-) Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sat Feb 1 00:45:33 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 05:45:33 -0000 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: > Thomas Dolby played keyboards, as I just now found out... > Well, there you go. You learn something every day. Thomas Dolby once blinded me with science y'know. 'Twas probably on a night out with Karal Fialka. (sp?) :-) In a whimsical mood, Cheers, Rich. From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Feb 1 03:17:13 2003 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:17:13 -0700 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: I ran into a VHS tape of Thomas Dolby's "Gate to the Minds Eye" a bit ago. I understand that this is part of a series! Any info? It was quite the visual trip! Pam Richard Lockwood wrote: > > Thomas Dolby played keyboards, as I just now found out... > > > > Well, there you go. You learn something every day. > > Thomas Dolby once blinded me with science y'know. > > 'Twas probably on a night out with Karal Fialka. (sp?) > > :-) > > In a whimsical mood, > > Cheers, > > Rich. -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace I don't feel fear or panic And nothing brings me down I'm an aerospaceage warrior I can fly sideways through sound My reflexes and reactions Are as fast as a machine I'm the right stuff baby The right stuff I'm the right stuff baby The right stuff I'm the right stuff baby The right stuff just watch my trail When the dial needle flickers Around mach one or two And something happens suddenly I know exactly what to do My hands move without thinking And my feet like lightning too I'm the right stuff baby The right stuff The right stuff baby The right stuff I'm the right stuff baby The right stuff I never fail My nerves are made of steel And my eyes are eagle sharp And what would freak the average man Does not affect my heart Not even if this jinxy jet Should shake itself apart 'Cause I'm the right stuff baby The right stuff The right stuff baby The right stuff I'm the right stuff baby The right stuff As hard as nails I never fail Just watch my trail From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Feb 1 10:52:00 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:52:00 -0500 Subject: Spaceshuttle Columbia In-Reply-To: <189.1534a761.2b6d44d2@aol.com> Message-ID: nice tribute ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Joe Loehr ::Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:42 AM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: OFF:Spaceshuttle Columbia :: :: ::I don't feel fear or panic ::And nothing brings me down ::I'm an aerospaceage warrior ::I can fly sideways through sound ::My reflexes and reactions ::Are as fast as a machine :: ::I'm the right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::I'm the right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::I'm the right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::just watch my trail :: ::When the dial needle flickers ::Around mach one or two ::And something happens suddenly ::I know exactly what to do ::My hands move without thinking ::And my feet like lightning too :: ::I'm the right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::The right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::I'm the right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::I never fail :: ::My nerves are made of steel ::And my eyes are eagle sharp ::And what would freak the average man ::Does not affect my heart ::Not even if this jinxy jet ::Should shake itself apart :: ::'Cause I'm the right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::The right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::I'm the right stuff baby ::The right stuff ::As hard as nails ::I never fail ::Just watch my trail From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sat Feb 1 11:20:18 2003 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:20:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures In-Reply-To: <3E3B8289.630F264C@TransWestTaxi.com> Message-ID: I don't know if I'm thinking of the same thing, is that the one with computer generated graphics? I don't have my copy right here, but if it's the same thing, I'd love to see the rest of the series. Speaking of which, I'll have to see if I can get the Philip Glass ones (Koyaanisqatsi, Powaqqatsi,etc). Last I looked they weren't available......Oh, goody, I just checked and they're available on DVD. Jerry Cliff & Pam Wheaton wrote: > I ran into a VHS tape of Thomas Dolby's "Gate to the Minds Eye" a bit > ago. I understand that this is part of a series! Any info? > It was quite the visual trip! > Pam > > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > >>>Thomas Dolby played keyboards, as I just now found out... >>> >> >>Well, there you go. You learn something every day. >> >>Thomas Dolby once blinded me with science y'know. >> >>'Twas probably on a night out with Karal Fialka. (sp?) From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Feb 1 12:17:40 2003 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:17:40 -0700 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: Yes it is. Neat stuff Pam Jerry Guizar wrote: > I don't know if I'm thinking of the same thing, > is that the one with computer generated graphics? > I don't have my copy right here, but if it's the > same thing, I'd love to see the rest of the series. > > Speaking of which, I'll have to see if I can get > the Philip Glass ones (Koyaanisqatsi, Powaqqatsi,etc). > Last I looked they weren't available......Oh, goody, > I just checked and they're available on DVD. > > Jerry > > Cliff & Pam Wheaton wrote: > > I ran into a VHS tape of Thomas Dolby's "Gate to the Minds Eye" a bit > > ago. I understand that this is part of a series! Any info? > > It was quite the visual trip! > > Pam > > > > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > >>>Thomas Dolby played keyboards, as I just now found out... > >>> > >> > >>Well, there you go. You learn something every day. > >> > >>Thomas Dolby once blinded me with science y'know. > >> > >>'Twas probably on a night out with Karal Fialka. (sp?) -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace When "Blinded Me..." came out, it was one of those guilty pleasures....loved the violin part..still do..then when I found out that it was Simon House playing it, that validated things a bit....wonder what the story is of how he became involved with that project... From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sat Feb 1 14:43:10 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:43:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: I must have missed something here. Are you saying Simon House plays on Blinded me with science? That is Thomas Dolby right? Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Clark" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > When "Blinded Me..." came out, it was one of those guilty pleasures....loved > the violin part..still do..then when I found out that it was Simon House > playing it, that validated things a bit....wonder what the story is of how > he became involved with that project... From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sat Feb 1 15:32:09 2003 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:32:09 -0600 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only violin player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like something he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned it. Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sat Feb 1 16:55:40 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:55:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: THats wild. Simon has played in loads of strange bands. I'm going to have to find this now. I had it eons ago and got rid of it. I've never seen this anywhere before. I checked a few of the Thomas Dolby websites but didn't find anything. If hes in the credits thats enough proof right? Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Clark" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only violin > player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like something > he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned it. > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Sat Feb 1 17:45:37 2003 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:45:37 +0000 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with Science. Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working with Bowie. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Clark" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only violin > player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like something > he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned it. > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 1 18:13:37 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:13:37 -0000 Subject: OFF: Spaceshuttle Columbia Message-ID: The British news this evening was talking about damage to the left wing. I guess there's not much you can do if a large chunk of your spacecraft wing disintegrates at a speed of Mach 18. I went to listen to a talk the other day from a crew that returned only recently about what it was like up there - to stand outside the space station and look down and there's only the Earth below you. A fantastic, wondrous place but it takes courage to get there. I'm sorry to hear this news - for the loss of lives - for the delays it'll mean. My sympathies to all. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Loehr" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: OFF:Spaceshuttle Columbia > I don't feel fear or panic > And nothing brings me down > I'm an aerospaceage warrior > I can fly sideways through sound > My reflexes and reactions > Are as fast as a machine > > I'm the right stuff baby > The right stuff > I'm the right stuff baby > The right stuff > I'm the right stuff baby > The right stuff > just watch my trail > > When the dial needle flickers > Around mach one or two > And something happens suddenly > I know exactly what to do > My hands move without thinking > And my feet like lightning too > > I'm the right stuff baby > The right stuff > The right stuff baby > The right stuff > I'm the right stuff baby > The right stuff > I never fail > > My nerves are made of steel > And my eyes are eagle sharp > And what would freak the average man > Does not affect my heart > Not even if this jinxy jet > Should shake itself apart > > 'Cause I'm the right stuff baby > The right stuff > The right stuff baby > The right stuff > I'm the right stuff baby > The right stuff > As hard as nails > I never fail > Just watch my trail > From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Feb 1 18:20:43 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:20:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures In-Reply-To: <3E32C8E100002A3B@eeyor.genie.co.uk> Message-ID: That's interesting, what other work has he done? Any classical? Didnt he play with Japan? On Saturday 01 Feb 2003 22:45, you wrote: > Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with Science. > Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working with > Bowie. Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Clark" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only > > violin player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like > > something he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned > > it. > > > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? From admin at SHROPS.NET Sat Feb 1 18:25:08 2003 From: admin at SHROPS.NET (OS-NET) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:25:08 -0000 Subject: Spirit of The Age Message-ID: Hi... Can anyone give me any info on the CD Sprit Of The Age, also if anyone has one for sale or trade let me know on pete at shrops.net. The Track Listing I beleive is: 1.. THE FORGE OF VULCAN 2.. FLYING DOCTOR 3.. STEPPENWOLF 4.. HASSAN I SABHA 5.. TWENTY FIVE YEARS 6.. JACK OF SHADOWS 7.. PSI POWERS 8.. REEFER MADNESS 9.. FABLE OF A FAILED RACE 10.. HIGHRISE 11.. QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM 12.. BACK ON THE STREETS 13.. KERB CRAWLER 14.. ONLY THE DREAMS OF THE COLD WAR KID 15.. SPIRIT OF THE AGE Thanks in advance Pete Budgie Promotions www.budgie.uk.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:45 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with Science. > Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working with Bowie. > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Clark" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only violin > > player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like something > > he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned it. > > > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sat Feb 1 19:03:57 2003 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:03:57 -0600 Subject: Spirit of The Age Message-ID: You made me go look for that CD. Turns out that I cannot find it. Ach-Aye! Must've lent it to someone, and forgot who or where I put it...hate it when that happens. Anyway, I it's a nice compilation which I beleived was released on the Chrisma label. Back to searching for that damned CD..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "OS-NET" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:25 PM Subject: Spirit of The Age > Hi... > > Can anyone give me any info on the CD Sprit Of The Age, also if anyone has > one for sale or trade let me know on pete at shrops.net. > > The Track Listing I beleive is: > > 1.. THE FORGE OF VULCAN > 2.. FLYING DOCTOR > 3.. STEPPENWOLF > 4.. HASSAN I SABHA > 5.. TWENTY FIVE YEARS > 6.. JACK OF SHADOWS > 7.. PSI POWERS > 8.. REEFER MADNESS > 9.. FABLE OF A FAILED RACE > 10.. HIGHRISE > 11.. QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM > 12.. BACK ON THE STREETS > 13.. KERB CRAWLER > 14.. ONLY THE DREAMS OF THE COLD WAR KID > 15.. SPIRIT OF THE AGE > Thanks in advance > > Pete > Budgie Promotions > www.budgie.uk.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Von Bargen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with > Science. > > Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working with > Bowie. > > Mark > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Clark" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > > > > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only > violin > > > player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like > something > > > he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned it. > > > > > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 1 18:54:49 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:54:49 -0000 Subject: Spirit of The Age Message-ID: There are two Spirit of the Age CDs (track lists below). The second is one of the endless re-issues and you want to avoid it so if it's offered to you - check the tracklist first! The one you mention is the Charisma years compilation and strongly recommended if you don't have many of the Charisma period albums (Astounding Sounds, PXR5, Hawklords, QS&C etc). Best of all - it has Fable of a Failed Race - and Steppenwolf - and Forge of Vulcan - and Hassan I Sabha - and - oh it's a good compilation. Buy it anyway. jill 1988 Spirit of the Age CD (Virgin) [the Charisma years] Forge of Vulcan Flying Doctor Steppenwolf Hassan I Sabha 25 Years Jack of Shadows PSI Power Reefer Madness Fable of a Failed Race High Rise Quark, Strangeness, and Charm Back on the Streets Kerb Crawler Only the Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid Spirit of the Age 1991 Spirit of The Age CD [on "Elite". Different from 1988 Charisma compilation] Master of the Universe Earth Calling Psychosis Space Chase Magnu/Angels of Death Motorway City Born To Go Brainstorm (Live) Spirit of the Age Motorhead Dealing With The Devil World of Tiers The Fifth Second of Forever Dust of Time Levitation Silver Machine (Live) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "OS-NET" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:25 PM Subject: Spirit of The Age > Hi... > > Can anyone give me any info on the CD Sprit Of The Age, also if anyone has > one for sale or trade let me know on pete at shrops.net. > > The Track Listing I beleive is: > > 1.. THE FORGE OF VULCAN > 2.. FLYING DOCTOR > 3.. STEPPENWOLF > 4.. HASSAN I SABHA > 5.. TWENTY FIVE YEARS > 6.. JACK OF SHADOWS > 7.. PSI POWERS > 8.. REEFER MADNESS > 9.. FABLE OF A FAILED RACE > 10.. HIGHRISE > 11.. QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM > 12.. BACK ON THE STREETS > 13.. KERB CRAWLER > 14.. ONLY THE DREAMS OF THE COLD WAR KID > 15.. SPIRIT OF THE AGE > Thanks in advance > > Pete > Budgie Promotions > www.budgie.uk.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Von Bargen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with > Science. > > Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working with > Bowie. > > Mark > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Clark" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > > > > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only > violin > > > player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like > something > > > he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned it. > > > > > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? > From admin at SHROPS.NET Sat Feb 1 19:09:07 2003 From: admin at SHROPS.NET (OS-NET) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:09:07 -0000 Subject: Spirit of The Age Message-ID: Hi Jill... Thanks for that.. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Spirit of The Age > There are two Spirit of the Age CDs (track lists below). The second is > one of the endless re-issues and you want to avoid it so if it's offered > to you - check the tracklist first! The one you mention is the > Charisma years compilation and strongly recommended if you don't have > many of the Charisma period albums (Astounding Sounds, PXR5, Hawklords, > QS&C etc). Best of all - it has Fable of a Failed Race - and > Steppenwolf - and Forge of Vulcan - and Hassan I Sabha - and - oh it's a > good compilation. Buy it anyway. jill > > 1988 Spirit of the Age CD (Virgin) [the Charisma years] > Forge of Vulcan > Flying Doctor > Steppenwolf > Hassan I Sabha > 25 Years > Jack of Shadows > PSI Power > Reefer Madness > Fable of a Failed Race > High Rise > Quark, Strangeness, and Charm > Back on the Streets > Kerb Crawler > Only the Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid > Spirit of the Age > > 1991 Spirit of The Age CD [on "Elite". Different from 1988 Charisma > compilation] > Master of the Universe > Earth Calling > Psychosis > Space Chase > Magnu/Angels of Death > Motorway City > Born To Go > Brainstorm (Live) > Spirit of the Age > Motorhead > Dealing With The Devil > World of Tiers > The Fifth Second of Forever > Dust of Time > Levitation > Silver Machine (Live) > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "OS-NET" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:25 PM > Subject: Spirit of The Age > > > > Hi... > > > > Can anyone give me any info on the CD Sprit Of The Age, also if anyone > has > > one for sale or trade let me know on pete at shrops.net. > > > > The Track Listing I beleive is: > > > > 1.. THE FORGE OF VULCAN > > 2.. FLYING DOCTOR > > 3.. STEPPENWOLF > > 4.. HASSAN I SABHA > > 5.. TWENTY FIVE YEARS > > 6.. JACK OF SHADOWS > > 7.. PSI POWERS > > 8.. REEFER MADNESS > > 9.. FABLE OF A FAILED RACE > > 10.. HIGHRISE > > 11.. QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM > > 12.. BACK ON THE STREETS > > 13.. KERB CRAWLER > > 14.. ONLY THE DREAMS OF THE COLD WAR KID > > 15.. SPIRIT OF THE AGE > > Thanks in advance > > > > Pete > > Budgie Promotions > > www.budgie.uk.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Von Bargen" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:45 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > > > > Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with > > Science. > > > Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working > with > > Bowie. > > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Clark" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > > > > > > > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the > only > > violin > > > > player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like > > something > > > > he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned it. > > > > > > > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? > > From drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM Sat Feb 1 20:24:06 2003 From: drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM (David Blair) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 01:24:06 +0000 Subject: Spirit of The Age In-Reply-To: <002301c2ca49$289fa650$1634a8c0@OSNET.local> Message-ID: In article <002301c2ca49$289fa650$1634a8c0 at OSNET.local>, OS-NET writes >Hi... > >Can anyone give me any info on the CD Sprit Of The Age, also if anyone has >one for sale or trade let me know on pete at shrops.net. > >The Track Listing I beleive is: > > 1.. THE FORGE OF VULCAN > 2.. FLYING DOCTOR > 3.. STEPPENWOLF > 4.. HASSAN I SABHA > 5.. TWENTY FIVE YEARS > 6.. JACK OF SHADOWS > 7.. PSI POWERS > 8.. REEFER MADNESS > 9.. FABLE OF A FAILED RACE > 10.. HIGHRISE > 11.. QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM > 12.. BACK ON THE STREETS > 13.. KERB CRAWLER > 14.. ONLY THE DREAMS OF THE COLD WAR KID > 15.. SPIRIT OF THE AGE >Thanks in advance > >Pete >Budgie Promotions >www.budgie.uk.com This was released in 1988 on Virgin, only in the UK. Subsequently updated and re-released in 1992 as 'Tales From Atomhenge - the Robert Calvert Years' with 2 extra tracks (Honky Dorky, B-side of Kings of Speed, and The Dream of Isis, B-side of Back on the Streets) and extra sleeve notes by Brian Tawn. -- David Blair From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Feb 1 22:29:56 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:29:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock show + Mushroom Tribute Special Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (February 2, 2003): We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #67), and The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (show #19) which is an all MUSHROOM tribute special. See the playlists below. THESE SHOWS ARE DEDICATED TO THE 7 ASTRONAUTS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES SATURDAY MORNING WHEN THE SPACE SHUTTLE COLUMBIA BROKE UP AFTER ENTERING THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio show #67 PXR.1 - "The Day The Earth Stood Still" (from Not Of This Earth: Sci-Fi Movies Tribute) Simon House & Rod Goodway - "Country Charm" (from House Of Dreams) Faust - "Stretch Out" (from Patchwork: 1971-2002) ST 37 - "Hit In The Head" (from Down On Us) Awkward Star - "Fire" (from Blue Straggler) Scattered Planets - "Wasteland" (from Andromeda Keg Party) Mountain Mirrors - "Invite The Drum Jam" (from mp3.com site) Tim Mungenast - "Candles" (from The Un-Stableboy) Egg Yum Yum - "Ooo-Sky-Rah-Ket" (from Krautrock Karnival) Typewriter - "City Lights Flightpath" (from Skeleton Key) The AcidGuitarKing - "Kiss My Axe" (from Savage Saint) San Francisco Blue - "Harmless" (from Idiot's Vision) Superczar - "Table Monkeys" (from The Stress Signal) The Feud - "N'finite Rug" (from Language Is Technology) The Dao Son For - "The Sprawler" (from The Dao Son For) The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown show #19: Mushroom Tribute Special Based in San Francisco, Mushroom play an exciting blend of psychedelia, Krautrock, and cosmic Jazz. Influenced by early 70's Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, Soft Machine, Can, and numerous others, Mushroom continue to blow our minds with their space age cosmic grooves. For more information you can visit the Mushroom web site at: http://www.innerspacerecords.com/mushroom. Mushroom - "Jamming With Erik" (from Analog Hi-Fi Surprise) 4:55 Mushroom - "Klaus Dinger" (from Cream Of Mushroom) 7:43 Mushroom - "Still Waiting" (from Hydrogen Jukebox) 7:11 Mushroom - "Foxy Music" (from Foxy Music) 5:57 Mushroom - "A Dusty Groove" (Oh But They're Weird & They're Wonderful) 5:48 Mushroom - "You're Only Pretty As You Feel" (Pull Up The Paisley Covers: A Psychedelic Omnibus) 6:27 Jefferson Airplane Mushroom - "On The Corner (Part 2)" (from Alive And In Full Bloom) 3:56 Mushroom - "Americans own the moon, they bought it from the Germans, who won it during a poker game in World War II" (from Foxy Music) 3:57 Mushroom - "When The Shit Gets Tough To Face-The Tough Get Shit Faced" (from Hydrogen Jukebox) 7:27 Mushroom - "Compared To What" (from Compared To What) 7:54 Mushroom - "Our Buddy Miles" (from Analog Hi-Fi Surprise) 11:06 So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. Also check out our reorganized mail order catalog. And while you're there take a peak at our new stock items: Church Of Hed - s/t (Quarkspace solo project) The entire catalog of Krom Lek and Census Of Hallucinations releases http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Feb 2 09:11:54 2003 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:11:54 -0000 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: Yes he did. He's on My New Career from Gentlemen Take Polaroids (that is an excellent solo, haunting and atmospheric) and one track on the Tin Drum album, can't remember which, might have been the title track. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Fagin" To: Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > That's interesting, what other work has he done? Any classical? Didnt he play > with Japan? > > > > On Saturday 01 Feb 2003 22:45, you wrote: > > Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with Science. > > Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working with > > Bowie. Mark > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tom Clark" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only > > > violin player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like > > > something he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned > > > it. > > > > > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sun Feb 2 09:33:25 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:33:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: Is this still in print? I know Tin Drum isn't. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:11 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > Yes he did. He's on My New Career from Gentlemen Take Polaroids (that is an > excellent solo, haunting and atmospheric) and one track on the Tin Drum > album, can't remember which, might have been the title track. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ben Fagin" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > That's interesting, what other work has he done? Any classical? Didnt he > play > > with Japan? > > > > > > > > On Saturday 01 Feb 2003 22:45, you wrote: > > > Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with > Science. > > > Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working with > > > Bowie. Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Clark" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > > > > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only > > > > violin player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like > > > > something he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 2 14:56:02 2003 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 19:56:02 -0000 Subject: HW: David Hardy Message-ID: DH is on the "Sky at Night" tonight on BBC 1 discussing space art. Dave From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Feb 2 16:29:34 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 16:29:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Simon House in Japan (was: OFF: Other Bands) Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:11:54 -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Yes he did. He's on My New Career from Gentlemen Take Polaroids (that is an >excellent solo, haunting and atmospheric) and one track on the Tin Drum >album, can't remember which, might have been the title track. The track Simon House plays on is actually called "Talking Drum" (there's no title track to Japan's 'Tin Drum' album). Simon's violin part is a bit of a middle eastern dervish backing that's prominent in some parts and definitely would have fit perfectly on Bowie's 'Lodger'. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sun Feb 2 21:12:19 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:12:19 -0400 Subject: iuma website server gone haywire' New OEB song listed though! Message-ID: Hello, everyone. Currently the webserver for our site is experiencing major problems, with all the songs already uploaded there ( by nearly all artists) appearing as the same song, ie 'On Fire' ( rough). Now, all our previously uploaded material is still there, however the titles have all reverted to 'On Fire', and there is currently no way to correct the problem. Before we delete these files we will wait another day or so, to see if IUMA can fix this on their end. We discovered that uploading new songs and titles is not effected by this glitch, sop we have uploaded a long jammed out version of ' Washboard Blues' as recorded in London, January 15th 2003. http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com The lineup was: Mike Burro: electric acoustic guitar/vocals Jay Adcock: djembe Phil Smith: electric lead guitars Dan Tilbury: drumkit Errol Rodericks: bass Cheers, and thanks for your patience. We hope to resolve this issue within the next several days. Mike Burro From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Feb 2 16:06:46 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:06:46 +0000 Subject: HW: Night Of The Hawks Message-ID: this is one of my favorite Hawkwind songs. I even played on the radio. All of USA conspire against me for liking it. I like it because I am a romantic in the anarchy and in Hawkwind and in heavy metal. Chr. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From hawklord66 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 3 02:07:57 2003 From: hawklord66 at HOTMAIL.COM (Robbo .) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 07:07:57 +0000 Subject: HW: Dave Brock is "Hawkwind-Buddha" Message-ID: oh for f...s sake.................. why do I subscribe to this? to get this crap? >From: Amphetamine Embalmer >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Dave Brock is "Hawkwind-Buddha" >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:03:29 +0000 > >DAVE BROCK is "HAWKWIND-BUDDHA", NOT ME! > >Already in my youth I had already reasoned that Dave >Brock, founder member/guitarist/singer of Hawkwind was >"Hawkwind-Buddha" because he was the only remaining >founder member and was the head of the spaceship >Hawkwind. Brock is a woman who whores out the Hawkwind >name through other members as well over the years and >is the sole leader of the band. Competing founder >member/vocalist/saxophonist Nik Turner competes quite >well, but doesen't quite make it as "Hawkwind-Buddha" >due to too many years away from the spotlight in >Hawkwind, both as an auxhilary member in the early >80's as a frontman as well, and his return in the 90's >to stylishly fleece Brock as an old magi punk. Turner >is also a woman in magi. > >Chr. > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Mon Feb 3 04:18:49 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:18:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Circle opportunities Message-ID: Hey everyone... First off, thanks to Stephan F. for his run-down on Circle's history...he corrected some of my errors that I put forth on the band. Anyway, a quick browsing through Ebay produced the following, and I forward them here given that a band with a name like Circle is very difficult to search for on Ebay. Grakkl (FAA) Circle - Pori http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2505110809&category=2250 Circle - Andexelt http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2504497669&category=307 From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Feb 3 04:28:47 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 04:28:47 -0500 Subject: HW: Night Of The Hawks Message-ID: I'm in the USA and I like it. Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" To: Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: HW: Night Of The Hawks > this is one of my favorite Hawkwind songs. I even > played on the radio. All of USA conspire against me > for liking it. I like it because I am a romantic in > the anarchy and in Hawkwind and in heavy metal. > > Chr. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 3 05:04:35 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (I wasn't even there man) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:34:35 +1030 Subject: OFF Re: HW: Night Of The Hawks OFF - silly - just plain silly and OFF Message-ID: well in MYYYYY day we didn't have radio and any of those fancy electronic gadgets like audio generators and all that! we had to nail small furry animals to the floor boards and step on them to get those swirly chirpy effects ehy whaaaat!!??!! Cigars and Brandy chaps? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: Re: HW: Night Of The Hawks > I'm in the USA and I like it. Cheers Stephe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:06 PM > Subject: HW: Night Of The Hawks > > > > this is one of my favorite Hawkwind songs. I even > > played on the radio. All of USA conspire against me > > for liking it. I like it because I am a romantic in > > the anarchy and in Hawkwind and in heavy metal. > > > > Chr. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Mon Feb 3 07:17:25 2003 From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:17:25 -0000 Subject: NIK: Nikwind report Message-ID: Hi all, I forgot to mention that I went to see Spaceritual.net in Northampton about a fortnight ago, and they were sort of OK. I could recognise the tunes, even if there were people not of HW present. Sounds like the same set list, with a new one from Thomas Crimble playing acoustic guitar (mainly on guitar, with Dave A on bass) called right on, or something (not a pink fairies tune). The others were someone on keyboards, Sam on drums also doing samples from LPs (sound effects from the 70s), Jackie Windmill on a large percussion drum slung between her legs (from the title of the photo at http://www.locallife.co.uk/xhawkwind/hebden/terryandwife.jpg it appears she is married to Terry Ollis), there was the chap who does backing vocals (badly) and loons about, who may be called Alice Rhubarb and looks like http://www.locallife.co.uk/xhawkwind/truckers/mf7.jpg, and a young hewitt. This is added to Nik, Del, Dave A, Thomas C, Mick Slattery and Terry Ollis. Good in parts, not worth travelling hugely far to, but good entertainment, I reckon. Mike w -----Original Message----- From: Jez Dacombe [mailto:Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK] Sent: 31 January 2003 19:50 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: NIK: Nikwind report Hi, Saw Nik and his merry band of warriors at Bilston last night. Main reason for going was to see the members from decades past (Slattery, Crimble, Anderson, Ollis & Dettmar). Wasn't expecting much musically, but generally exceeded expectations. Streets ahead of last time I saw Nik, Huw, Ollis & Crimble at Welsh festival (Ystalefera) ... ie You could tell which songs they were playing! Stuff of interest included Born To Go, D-Rider, Children Of The Sun, Master, Orgone, Silver Machine, Brainstorm, Ejection and no doubt a couple I've forgotten. Nik welcomed tapers, camcorders & photos, but asked for copies (seems reasonable). Del was on "axe", pretty much full time which was a marvel to witness. Terry not changed one iota from 70/71, instantly recognisable - the 2nd drummer was his son, Sam. Enjoyed it, good fun gig, catch 'em whilst you can. 3 others on stage as well, taking total up to 10, although later on they were also joined by some young guy on guitar (Hewitt?). Spiky outfits a-plenty! Jez Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Feb 3 08:03:12 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:03:12 -0000 Subject: NIK: Nikwind report Message-ID: I was there too, pretty much the same feelings. Could've well done without the crusty Rocky Horror Show refugees and Crimble's c & w pop number. When they hit a groove it worked well. Nik's vocals were ok on the whole but pretty awful on the 'new' material (e'g' Sonice Savages, or whatever it was, new to me but should've guessed it was actually pre- '85 as that seems to be the cut-off point for new material from Nik). Pretty good, but to be honest I've heard other line-ups of Nik's that have sounded more like HW than this one, vene without the benefit of several ex-members. I was pleaantly surprised by Mick Slattery, who, basically, I'd not been able to hear on previous occasions. As Mike said, fairly diverting fun but not really worth travelling a long way for (luckily N'hampton's only up the road for me!) NIck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wright, Mike" To: Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Re: NIK: Nikwind report > Hi all, > > I forgot to mention that I went to see Spaceritual.net in Northampton about > a fortnight ago, and they were sort of OK. I could recognise the tunes, even > if there were people not of HW present. Sounds like the same set list, with > a new one from Thomas Crimble playing acoustic guitar (mainly on guitar, > with Dave A on bass) called right on, or something (not a pink fairies > tune). The others were someone on keyboards, Sam on drums also doing samples > from LPs (sound effects from the 70s), Jackie Windmill on a large percussion > drum slung between her legs (from the title of the photo at > http://www.locallife.co.uk/xhawkwind/hebden/terryandwife.jpg it appears she > is married to Terry Ollis), there was the chap who does backing vocals > (badly) and loons about, who may be called Alice Rhubarb and looks like > http://www.locallife.co.uk/xhawkwind/truckers/mf7.jpg, and a young hewitt. > This is added to Nik, Del, Dave A, Thomas C, Mick Slattery and Terry Ollis. > Good in parts, not worth travelling hugely far to, but good entertainment, I > reckon. > > Mike w > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jez Dacombe [mailto:Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK] > Sent: 31 January 2003 19:50 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: NIK: Nikwind report > > > Hi, > Saw Nik and his merry band of warriors at Bilston last night. Main reason > for going was to see the members from decades past (Slattery, Crimble, > Anderson, Ollis & Dettmar). Wasn't expecting much musically, but generally > exceeded expectations. Streets ahead of last time I saw Nik, Huw, Ollis & > Crimble at Welsh festival (Ystalefera) ... ie You could tell which songs > they were playing! Stuff of interest included Born To Go, D-Rider, Children > Of The Sun, Master, Orgone, Silver Machine, Brainstorm, Ejection and no > doubt a couple I've forgotten. Nik welcomed tapers, camcorders & photos, but > asked for copies (seems reasonable). Del was on "axe", pretty much full time > which was a marvel to witness. Terry not changed one iota from 70/71, > instantly recognisable - the 2nd drummer was his son, Sam. Enjoyed it, good > fun gig, catch 'em whilst you can. 3 others on stage as well, taking total > up to 10, although later on they were also joined by some young guy on > guitar (Hewitt?). Spiky outfits a-plenty! Jez > > > Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be > contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the > use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee > you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised > manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this > e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and > destroy all copies. Thank you. From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Feb 3 11:25:06 2003 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:25:06 -0600 Subject: NIK: Nikwind report Message-ID: Sure that wasn't Tammy Faye Baker? From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Mon Feb 3 13:37:56 2003 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:37:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Mushroom Review Message-ID: Analog Hi-Fi Surprise - Mushroom Mike Greenhaus mcgreeny1 at aol.com 2003-01-23 For a band called Mushroom, this San Francisco sextet isn't too trippy. Sure, their jazz-funk-fusion embodies much of what the modern term "jamband" has come to mean. But, their music is tight and up-tempo, focused in its exploration. Recorded and originally released in 1999, Analog Hi-Fi Surprise does live up to its title. Remasterd, repackaged, and reissued with four new tracks, Analog Hi-Fi takes the group's raw, underground energy and buffs its sound with clean production and high-quality recordings. Shifting between funk, jazz, trance, and the violin on "October 1970", Analog Hi-Fi is a fast paced and easily danceable disc; in many ways a jamband variety pack. Opening with the funky "Jamming with Erik", a new track for the reissue, Mushroom unleashes their two-keyboard attack from the get-go. Part space-rock, part Herbie Hancock dance party, Mushroom's sound is keyboard driven, even as the disc gives its best solos to the group's two guitarists. Band newcomer Michael Holt plays a Rhodes electric piano, while original space pioneer Graham Connah pumps away on a heavy organ. And the duo duel, each adding electric sounds and trance-rhythms. Laying down a drumbeat as precise as a clock, drummer and occasional bongo player Patrick O'Hearn holds things together while the group'ss keyboardists and lead guitarist Erik Pearson stretch the songs out in every direction. With each track written and arranged by the full band, Analog Hi-Fi is highly collaborative, with O'Hearn during double duty as the disc's producer. "Rackets" sounds like an updated version of Herbie Hancock's Headhunters-era jams, with subtle synthesizers and electric piano licks break the group's deep funk. Starting off with a short solo by Olmstead, "The Theme from the Movie ORock Bottom'" has the raw energy of a rock song, packed into a tight, fusion nugget. The drums pound and the keyboards loop, as Olmstead's pronounced guitar takes center stage, at times recalling Phish's funnier moments. "Abbie Hoffman" opens with some guitar duels between Olmstead and "snake guitarist" Erik Pearson before flowing gently into a free-form jam session. "Mother's, Birmingham 3:00 AM", another new cut, leans towards the group's jazzier side, evoking the spacey sounds the group's fungi title suggests. So, is Mushroom?s sound completely groundbreaking? No. Yet, the group puts an exciting spin on several sounds overused within the burgeoning jamband community. While many jazz-funk combos get caught in their groove, loosing their sense of exploration and drowning their own energy, Mushroom use their trance tendencies to hold their sound-together. When "Mother's" begins to sound repetitive four minutes in, Mushroom's excellent keyboardists tickle their plastic ivory and make the song once again exciting and fresh sounding. Instead of filling the group's large sound with horns and auxiliary percussionists, like so many jazz-funk based units, Mushrooms two-guitar/two-keyboard lineup is refreshing, adding the competitive edge that keeps any instrumental collective sounding new. In many ways, Analog Hi-fi Surprise, foreshadows the evolution of improvisational music, in which even college-funk can dance trance. From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Mon Feb 3 19:05:26 2003 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:05:26 -0500 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms Message-ID: Hey Now! I have seen or heard the following terms and I am not certain what they mean in context. I guess they might be called slang terms, but I do not wanna label them as such being from America and all.... What do these terms mean? taking a piss bloke herbert punter bugger geezer Thanx! D From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Feb 3 19:15:34 2003 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:15:34 -0600 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms Message-ID: Found this site which translates most of that... http://www.effingpot.com/slang.html From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Feb 3 19:37:16 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:37:16 -0500 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms Message-ID: taking a piss- Getting wasted could be wrong > bloke-dude > herbert-Don't know > punter-Don't know > bugger-Shit as in Shit, Oh Shit I fucked up > geezer-Old fart ----- Original Message ----- From: "DRider" To: Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms > Hey Now! > > I have seen or heard the following terms and I am not certain what they mean > in context. I guess they might be called slang terms, but I do not wanna > label them as such being from America and all.... > > What do these terms mean? > > taking a piss > bloke > herbert > punter > bugger > geezer > > Thanx! > > D From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Feb 3 19:43:50 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:43:50 -0500 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:15:34 -0600, Tom Clark wrote: >Found this site which translates most of that... > >http://www.effingpot.com/slang.html Actually, I only found two of the terms that Darrin requested (the site is correct that it's, "taking THE piss", not "taking A piss", and it assumes that you already know what "buggery" is ... if not, read Moorcock's 'Cornelius Chronicles', in which Bishop Beasley is buggered on numerous occasions). Good site, though. I'll take a shot at the others (despite being an illiterate yank): >Bloke An ordinary guy. "Darrin McKeehan, Tom Clark, Keith Henderson, and Stephe Lindas are some of the blokes I've chatted with on boc-l." >Herbert No idea whatsoever ... >Punter Concertgoer, or a (usually paying?) member of the public in attendance at an event. "When Hawkwind took the stage, all the punters went wild." or "We had to stand in line with all the punters while they let the VIP's into the club." >Geezer An older bloke. "I first saw Hawkwind in 1989, but that geezer's been going to Hawkwind concerts since 1971!" As always, correct me if I'm wrong ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 3 20:02:50 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:32:50 +1030 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms Message-ID: ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.first-zone.com/?AID=17490 (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "DRider" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms > Hey Now! > > I have seen or heard the following terms and I am not certain what they mean > in context. I guess they might be called slang terms, but I do not wanna > label them as such being from America and all.... > > What do these terms mean? > > taking a piss = number 1's - urinating (taking the piss - joking or being a smart ass) > bloke - a guy > herbert - ((sorry - not game to test my memory here )) > punter - well - someone who makes bets on the footy or the horses is called a punter > bugger - depends on the subject - can be someone who is annoying or it can also be an expression of disgust and it can also be used in a friendly "you bugga" kinda way > geezer - a bloke "ooo's that geezer think ee is" > > Thanx! > > D From drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 3 20:02:29 2003 From: drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM (David Blair) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:02:29 +0000 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms In-Reply-To: <200302040043.TAA00741@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <200302040043.TAA00741 at listserv.spc.edu>, Doug Pearson writes >On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:15:34 -0600, Tom Clark wrote: >>Found this site which translates most of that... >> >>http://www.effingpot.com/slang.html > >Actually, I only found two of the terms that Darrin requested (the site is >correct that it's, "taking THE piss", not "taking A piss", and it assumes >that you already know what "buggery" is ... if not, read >Moorcock's 'Cornelius Chronicles', in which Bishop Beasley is buggered on >numerous occasions). Good site, though. Nope, taking the piss has nothing to do with buggery. AKA taking the mick/rise, means basically having a laugh at someone else's expense. Actually, bugger has nothing to do with buggery. It's a mild exclamation, a little stronger than 'oops' or 'oh dear', unless used when referring to a person ('silly bugger') when it means something similar to idiot. >I'll take a shot at the others (despite being an illiterate yank): > >>Bloke Man >An ordinary guy. "Darrin McKeehan, Tom Clark, Keith Henderson, and Stephe >Lindas are some of the blokes I've chatted with on boc-l." > >>Herbert >No idea whatsoever ... Herbert is short for 'spotty Herbert'. Tosser/wanker/geek >>Punter Customer, frequently used for customers of ladies of ill (Or if you're a Terry Pratchett fan, negotiable) repute >Concertgoer, or a (usually paying?) member of the public in attendance at >an event. "When Hawkwind took the stage, all the punters went wild." >or "We had to stand in line with all the punters while they let the VIP's >into the club." > >>Geezer Another (Interchangeable) word for bloke. >An older bloke. "I first saw Hawkwind in 1989, but that geezer's been >going to Hawkwind concerts since 1971!" > >As always, correct me if I'm wrong ... Me too - I've just given what the meanings in my neck of the North-of - England woods. God knows what them southern jessies mean by them... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com -- David Blair From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon Feb 3 21:21:08 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:21:08 -0500 Subject: OT: Waitangi Day (NZ) Message-ID: I know there are some listers from NZ here Waitangi Day is the 6th of Feb according to my Calendar. What is ths significance of this event? Thanks Curious in NYS ________________________________ Furious activity is no substitute for understanding. -- H. H. Williams From davidhoward at XTRA.CO.NZ Mon Feb 3 21:37:17 2003 From: davidhoward at XTRA.CO.NZ (David Howard & Kim Pieters) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:37:17 +1300 Subject: OT: Waitangi Day (NZ) Message-ID: Lifted from the Official Page: 'Waitangi Day commemorates the signing of a treaty at Waitangi on 6 February 1840 by a group of Maori chiefs and the British Government, represented by Lieutenant-Governor Hobson. The treaty was subsequently signed by other Maori chiefs in various locations throughout the country. The question of what obligations the Treaty of Waitangi placed on each side has been a subject of contention ever since.' David Howard From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Tue Feb 4 05:00:44 2003 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:00:44 +0000 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms Message-ID: Ok, here's my stab at the definitions from a Scouse perspective and with no help from dictionaries or websites. See below: Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "DRider" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms > Hey Now! > > I have seen or heard the following terms and I am not certain what they mean > in context. I guess they might be called slang terms, but I do not wanna > label them as such being from America and all.... > > What do these terms mean? > > taking a piss - having a wee; urinating taking THE piss - winding people up; acting stupid > bloke - male person (usually used in a phrase like ''he is a good bloke) > herbert - a fool, idiot; perhaps loosely comparable to nerd but with no 'tribal' connotations > punter - primarily, somebody who places bets on events. also, come to be used as a term to describe an attendee at any event. A HW show attendee could be called a HW punter. - earlier; somebody who sailed punts (a type of boat a bit like the gondolas in Venice) > bugger - initially, a sexual term - Do U really want to know. Has now become a general derogatory term to describe persons or events. cf: that was a bugger of a game, > geezer - person (usually male); generally complimentary term. cf: he's a sound geezer. > > Thanx! > > D > From admin at SHROPS.NET Tue Feb 4 06:52:00 2003 From: admin at SHROPS.NET (OS-NET) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:52:00 -0000 Subject: Spirit of The Age Message-ID: Hi Tom... Hope you find it.... Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Clark" To: Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Spirit of The Age > You made me go look for that CD. Turns out that I cannot find it. > Ach-Aye! > > Must've lent it to someone, and forgot who or where I put it...hate it when > that happens. > > Anyway, I it's a nice compilation which I beleived was released on the > Chrisma label. > > Back to searching for that damned CD..... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "OS-NET" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:25 PM > Subject: Spirit of The Age > > > > Hi... > > > > Can anyone give me any info on the CD Sprit Of The Age, also if anyone has > > one for sale or trade let me know on pete at shrops.net. > > > > The Track Listing I beleive is: > > > > 1.. THE FORGE OF VULCAN > > 2.. FLYING DOCTOR > > 3.. STEPPENWOLF > > 4.. HASSAN I SABHA > > 5.. TWENTY FIVE YEARS > > 6.. JACK OF SHADOWS > > 7.. PSI POWERS > > 8.. REEFER MADNESS > > 9.. FABLE OF A FAILED RACE > > 10.. HIGHRISE > > 11.. QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM > > 12.. BACK ON THE STREETS > > 13.. KERB CRAWLER > > 14.. ONLY THE DREAMS OF THE COLD WAR KID > > 15.. SPIRIT OF THE AGE > > Thanks in advance > > > > Pete > > Budgie Promotions > > www.budgie.uk.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Von Bargen" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:45 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > > > > Yes, Simon House did play violin on Thomas Dolby's Blinded Me with > > Science. > > > Maybe the link came about from the time that Simon spent working with > > Bowie. > > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tom Clark" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > > > > > > > The album credits mention that he played violin..and he's the only > > violin > > > > player listed, I assume so..it is kinda trippy, and sounds like > > something > > > > he'd do....I remember someone at the time had also mentioned it. > > > > > > > > Any confirmations? Or is it a shattered illusion? > > From admin at SHROPS.NET Tue Feb 4 06:51:34 2003 From: admin at SHROPS.NET (OS-NET) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:51:34 -0000 Subject: Spirit of The Age Message-ID: David.. Thanks for that... Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Blair" To: Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:24 AM Subject: Re: Spirit of The Age > In article <002301c2ca49$289fa650$1634a8c0 at OSNET.local>, OS-NET > writes > >Hi... > > > >Can anyone give me any info on the CD Sprit Of The Age, also if anyone has > >one for sale or trade let me know on pete at shrops.net. > > > >The Track Listing I beleive is: > > > > 1.. THE FORGE OF VULCAN > > 2.. FLYING DOCTOR > > 3.. STEPPENWOLF > > 4.. HASSAN I SABHA > > 5.. TWENTY FIVE YEARS > > 6.. JACK OF SHADOWS > > 7.. PSI POWERS > > 8.. REEFER MADNESS > > 9.. FABLE OF A FAILED RACE > > 10.. HIGHRISE > > 11.. QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM > > 12.. BACK ON THE STREETS > > 13.. KERB CRAWLER > > 14.. ONLY THE DREAMS OF THE COLD WAR KID > > 15.. SPIRIT OF THE AGE > >Thanks in advance > > > >Pete > >Budgie Promotions > >www.budgie.uk.com > > This was released in 1988 on Virgin, only in the UK. Subsequently > updated and re-released in 1992 as 'Tales From Atomhenge - the Robert > Calvert Years' with 2 extra tracks (Honky Dorky, B-side of Kings of > Speed, and The Dream of Isis, B-side of Back on the Streets) and extra > sleeve notes by Brian Tawn. > -- > David Blair From wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET Tue Feb 4 13:52:07 2003 From: wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET (Warrick Bell) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:52:07 -0800 Subject: OT: Waitangi Day (NZ) In-Reply-To: <200302041000.FAA02371@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 2:00:07 AM, David Howard wrote: Adp> Lifted from the Official Page: 'Waitangi Day commemorates the signing of a Adp> treaty at Waitangi on 6 February 1840 by a group of Maori chiefs and the Adp> British Government, represented by Lieutenant-Governor Hobson. The treaty Adp> was subsequently signed by other Maori chiefs in various locations Adp> throughout the country. The question of what obligations the Treaty of Adp> Waitangi placed on each side has been a subject of contention ever since.' Further explanation would be that Te Tiriti o Waitangi (The Treaty of Waitangi) is the founding document of New Zealand as a country rather than as a colony in a state of hostile takeover. Waitangi Day (formerly New Zealand Day) marks the anniversary of the Treaty's signing. As noted above though, the Treaty is contentious and not at all clear on whom it binds to what. Waitangi Day is usually marked by protests by various Maori groups, particularly at the official celebrations at the meeting house in the village of Waitangi where the document was signed. 'Waitangi' means "weeping water" but the name comes from a local stream and has nothing to do with the Treaty itself. -- Best regards, Warrick mailto:wjbell at mail2.gis.net From gg at NINJANET.COM Tue Feb 4 10:11:17 2003 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:11:17 +0100 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms In-Reply-To: <00ed01c2cbe1$1efd6bc0$e7428118@se1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: DRider wrote: > Hey Now! > I have seen or heard the following terms and I am not certain what they mean oh thanks to all, I have the same problem: I'm reading Lemmy's auto-biography an it's full of these slangs! thanks a lot! gg -- www.shapeless.it - italian metal webzine www.iammol.com - it.arti.musica.metal online From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 4 13:10:41 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:10:41 -0500 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures In-Reply-To: <001101c2ca3c$a9226f90$ce50a944@amyandstephe>; from lindas1@ADELPHIA.NET on Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 04:55:40PM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 04:55:40PM -0500, Stephe Lindas wrote: > THats wild. Simon has played in loads of strange bands. I'm going to have to > find this now. Indeed! > I've never seen this > anywhere before. I checked a few of the Thomas Dolby websites but didn't > find anything. barnesandnoble.com concurs; the credits for a Thomas Dolby compilation, Retrospectacle, are a mile long, including Simon House; Bruce Woolley on backing vocals (returning the favour for Radio Star, I guess; I love when things loop back on themselves like this :-) ... and Eddie Van Halen, go figure. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 4 13:16:03 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:16:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures In-Reply-To: <001201c2cac8$0bc49de0$ce50a944@amyandstephe>; from lindas1@ADELPHIA.NET on Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:33:25AM -0500 Message-ID: Well, barnesandnoble.com claims to ship both within 2-3 days. (I'm not trying to push these folks; I've never shopped there. All my mentions of them in this thread are merely results of a Google search.) On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:33:25AM -0500, Stephe Lindas wrote: > Is this still in print? I know Tin Drum isn't. Cheers Stephe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:11 AM > Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > > > Yes he did. He's on My New Career from Gentlemen Take Polaroids (that is an > > excellent solo, haunting and atmospheric) and one track on the Tin Drum -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 4 13:23:54 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:23:54 +0800 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: > barnesandnoble.com concurs; the credits for a Thomas Dolby > compilation, Retrospectacle, are a mile long, including Simon > House; Bruce Woolley on backing vocals (returning the favour for > Radio Star, I guess; I love when things loop back on themselves > like this :-) ... and Eddie Van Halen, go figure. > Thomas Dolby wasn't in The Buggles though (who did Radio Star). From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Feb 4 13:34:58 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:34:58 -0000 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: Nope. That was Trevor Horn. Cheers, R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:23 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > > barnesandnoble.com concurs; the credits for a Thomas Dolby > > compilation, Retrospectacle, are a mile long, including Simon > > House; Bruce Woolley on backing vocals (returning the favour for > > Radio Star, I guess; I love when things loop back on themselves > > like this :-) ... and Eddie Van Halen, go figure. > > > > Thomas Dolby wasn't in The Buggles though (who did Radio Star). > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Feb 4 14:04:42 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:04:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: Thanks for the confirmation Eric, Cheers Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:10 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures > On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 04:55:40PM -0500, Stephe Lindas wrote: > > THats wild. Simon has played in loads of strange bands. I'm going to have to > > find this now. > > Indeed! > > > I've never seen this > > anywhere before. I checked a few of the Thomas Dolby websites but didn't > > find anything. > > barnesandnoble.com concurs; the credits for a Thomas Dolby > compilation, Retrospectacle, are a mile long, including Simon > House; Bruce Woolley on backing vocals (returning the favour for > Radio Star, I guess; I love when things loop back on themselves > like this :-) ... and Eddie Van Halen, go figure. > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, > because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. > - Leslie Lamport > From piccallopaul at MSN.COM Tue Feb 4 17:50:40 2003 From: piccallopaul at MSN.COM (Paul Gartside) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:50:40 +0000 Subject: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures Message-ID: >From: William Duffy >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: Other Bands - Guilty pleasures >Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:23:54 +0800 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from cpimssmtpa31.msn.com ([207.46.181.71]) by >mc7-f13.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Tue, 4 Feb >2003 11:28:05 -0800 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu ([192.107.46.113]) by cpimssmtpa31.msn.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:27:22 -0800 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu (listserv at listserv.spc.edu >[192.107.46.113])by listserv.spc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SPC-4.1-NORELAY) with >ESMTP id NAA03678;Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:25:31 -0500 (EST) >Received: from LISTSERV.SPC.EDU by LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP >release 1.8d) with spool id 52873 for BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU; Tue, >4 Feb 2003 13:25:31 -0500 >Received: from mailgate.spc.edu (root at mailgate.spc.edu [192.107.46.158]) by > listserv.spc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SPC-4.1-NORELAY) with ESMTP id >NAA03671 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:25:30 >-0500 (EST) >Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-03.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.35]) by > mailgate.spc.edu (8.8.8/8.9.3/SPC-5.4-NORELAY) with SMTP id NAA08486 > for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:25:24 -0500 >(EST) >Received: (qmail 18543 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2003 18:23:49 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO xl5) (203.59.114.152) by mail.iinet.net.au >with SMTP; 4 Feb 2003 18:23:50 -0000 >X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== >X-MSN-Trace: {B3B3DCD1-3AEB-420A-B4A0-26811D389BEC} >References: <0b3201c2c1ab$cc33a420$e7428118 at se1.client2.attbi.com> > <20030201000008.C10950 at telepres.com> ><052701c2c9b5$233ba450$999623d9 at bernard> ><3E3B8289.630F264C at TransWestTaxi.com> <3E3BF3C2.60308 at stny.rr.com> > <3E3C0134.698174DD at TransWestTaxi.com> ><000701c2ca28$392abd00$0c01a8c0 at TomMain> ><000701c2ca2a$268a9a10$ce50a944 at amyandstephe> ><001a01c2ca30$fed925c0$0c01a8c0 at TomMain> ><001101c2ca3c$a9226f90$ce50a944 at amyandstephe> ><20030204131041.B19606 at telepres.com> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >Message-ID: <040201c2cc7a$97e7c320$0200a8c0 at xl5> >Sender: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >Return-Path: owner-boc-l at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2003 19:27:23.0113 (UTC) >FILETIME=[71299D90:01C2CC83] > > > barnesandnoble.com concurs; the credits for a Thomas Dolby > > compilation, Retrospectacle, are a mile long, including Simon > > House; Bruce Woolley on backing vocals (returning the favour for > > Radio Star, I guess; I love when things loop back on themselves > > like this :-) ... and Eddie Van Halen, go figure. > > > >Thomas Dolby wasn't in The Buggles though (who did Radio Star). >From Piccallo Radio killed the radio star was done by Trever Horn, who went on to create the sound of Frankie goes to Hollywod and sang with YES on one of their albums. _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Feb 4 16:41:24 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:41:24 -0400 Subject: Gig Announcement: One Eyed Bishops@ Borders Books, Mays Landing, NJ 4/18 Message-ID: The One Eyed Bishops@ Borders Books & Music Friday, April 18th 8:00-9:00 PM Mays Landing, New Jersey 2200 Wrangleboro Road ( right next to Route 322; The Black Horese Pike Admission: FREE phone # 344-2222 www.bordersstores.com/stores/store_pg.jsp?storeID=193 From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Feb 5 15:12:14 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:12:14 -0500 Subject: BOC: (Don't fear) the AOReaper (in stereo) Message-ID: Newz--- January 31, 2003 The upcoming concert at The Grove in Anaheim, CA on February 13 will be recorded by Westwood One for their "Superstar Concert Series" syndicated radio show. The concert will be broadcast at a later date on over 150 stations nationwide that carry the Superstar Concert Series. From markbradley13 at NETSCAPE.NET Wed Feb 5 16:51:57 2003 From: markbradley13 at NETSCAPE.NET (Mark Bradley) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:51:57 -0500 Subject: Hi Folks Message-ID: Good list you've got here. Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the UK is likely to start? Mark __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 5 17:14:01 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:14:01 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks Message-ID: This should be announced very soon:). Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Bradley" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: Hi Folks > Good list you've got here. > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the UK is likely to start? > > Mark > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Feb 5 21:29:42 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:29:42 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks Message-ID: YAAAAAWWWWNNNN.... > This should be announced very soon:). > > Colin > > > > Good list you've got here. > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the UK is likely to start? > > > > Mark > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 5 22:04:25 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:34:25 +1030 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > start? > > > > > > Mark > > > > > THE END .... Starring: Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your patronage. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 6 04:58:21 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 04:58:21 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates! Message-ID: http://www.cellsum.com/Shows.htm They're good venues! Jason From roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 6 07:28:04 2003 From: roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET (Roger) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:28:04 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: All this talk of gerbils, and no part for Richard Gere to play? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cpt Blue Skin" To: Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better : I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? : : *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email : : > > This should be announced very soon:). : > > : > > Colin : > : > > : > > : > > > Good list you've got here. : > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the : {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to : > start? : > > > : > > > Mark : > > > : > > : THE END .... : : Starring: : Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil : Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler : Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil : Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils : : : This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone : living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your : patronage. : From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 6 10:06:28 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:28 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20030206045821.00696784@acmenet.net> Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > http://www.cellsum.com/Shows.htm > > They're good venues! > Jason Between the frigid temperatures, the most snowfall in years and the chronically-depressed economy, it's nice to know there's at least one reason to live in upstate New York. Thank you Brain Surgeons! :-) Brian OBsong> The Dictators "Who Will Save Rock and Roll?" From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 6 14:49:19 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:49:19 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: Tour dates! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A >Between the frigid temperatures, the most snowfall in years and the >chronically-depressed economy, it's nice to know there's at least one reason >to live in upstate New York. > >Thank you Brain Surgeons! :-) > Yes indeed. (warning! Eric Bloom pun in 5,4,3,2,..) They know that Newark, NY is serious about rock n' roll! To be honest, they really are. {The Brain Surgeons} save rock and roll! Nuff Said. Too wrapped up in a james brown groove to put on Piece of Work, Jason From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 6 17:36:16 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:36:16 -0000 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "DRider" > What do these terms mean? I guess most of them have been adequately defined by now but I did a quick browse through Chambers dictionary and there were one or two additional definitions that might be of interest: > bloke apart frorm being general slang for 'a man' - in nautical terminology it also means (or used to mean - the usage may go back a couple of centuries) 'the commander' > punter the definition in this case is probably the one where 'punt' means to stake against the bank or to back a horse - so 'punter' is a professional gambler. It's apparently derived from French 'ponter'. How the modern usage of punter to mean the audience of a rock band has evolved I have no idea - but I guess an element of gambling is involved - buy a ticket and who knows what you will get! > bugger interesting one this! The origin is from Latin - probably early medieval - apparently 'a Bulgarian heretic, believed capable of any crime'. Hence it came to represent 'one guilty of bestiality and unnatural vice'. Its meaning has moderated over the years to become 'a low term of abuse, often quite colourless or even kindly' but 'buggery' is a legal term that still means 'bestiality' or 'unnatural vice'. > geezer this is another anonymous slang word meaning a 'queer elderly person' but there is a reference to 'guiser' which is interesting. 'guise' of course is 'manner or behaviour'. The Scots 'guiser' is a person in disguise but an earlier meaning is 'a (Christmas) mummer' - a person in disguise acting out the part of some older ritual. The origin is guise/wisa/weise Old French/High German/Old English suggesting 'a way' 'a guise' or 'wisdom'. So 'geezer' contains elements of older knowledge and strange behaviour - which is reasonably appropriate! Hope this is of some curiosity at least! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 6 19:16:28 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:16:28 GMT Subject: HW: Dave Brock is "Hawkwind-Buddha" In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?='s message of Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:03:29 +0000 Message-ID: =?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?= writes: > DAVE BROCK is "HAWKWIND-BUDDHA", NOT ME! I see the Demu escaped the Hole In the Pole again ;-) FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 6 19:35:50 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:35:50 GMT Subject: OFF:Spaceshuttle Columbia In-Reply-To: Joe Loehr's message of Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:42:10 EST Message-ID: I don't feel fear or panic I'm in a state of grace I'm a futurespaceage warrior I fly upside down in space My reflexes and reactions Are a part of the machine I'm the right stuff baby the right stuff Just watch my trail... When the temperature needle flickers Around Mach twenty-five And something strange is happening That's when I come alive It just ain't no time for robots When someone has to drive I'm the right stuff baby the right stuff Just watch my trail.... In training for this moment I've spent my entire life And even as tiles fall away My mind's sharp as a knife And even if I lose this bird I'll die a falling star Cause I'm the right stuff baby the right stuff The right stuff baby the right stuff The right stuff baby the right stuff Now build anew.... Just build anew..... And follow my trail... From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Feb 7 07:23:06 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:23:06 +0000 Subject: HW: Dave Brock is "Hawkwind-Buddha" In-Reply-To: <200302070016.AAA10010@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: You mean Diesel Electric Multiple Unit? :) > I see the Demu escaped the Hole In the Pole again ;-) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Feb 7 12:55:59 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:55:59 -0500 Subject: Off: Help w/ British Terms In-Reply-To: <002301c2ce30$2a8f9480$e94587d9@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:36:16PM -0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:36:16PM -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DRider" > > punter > the definition in this case is probably the one where 'punt' means to > stake against the bank or to back a horse - so 'punter' is a > professional gambler. It's apparently derived from French 'ponter'. > How the modern usage of punter to mean the audience of a rock band has > evolved I have no idea - but I guess an element of gambling is > involved - buy a ticket and who knows what you will get! Perhaps racetrack workers generalized it to refer to all their paying customers, not just the pros; and the term then got further generalized to other sorts of entertainments. > > bugger > interesting one this! The origin is from Latin - probably early > medieval - apparently 'a Bulgarian heretic, believed capable of any > crime'. Hence it came to represent 'one guilty of bestiality and > unnatural vice'. That being, of course, the worst crime they could dream of... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Thu Feb 6 02:35:48 2003 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:35:48 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: Michael, You will do anything to get tha tour of Australia. Made me laff, mate. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cpt Blue Skin" To: Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > start? > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > Starring: > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > patronage. > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 7 19:12:40 2003 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:12:40 EST Subject: OFF:Spaceshuttle Columbia Message-ID: In a message dated 2/6/2003 7:36:28 PM US Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > I don't feel fear or panic > I'm in a state of grace > I'm a futurespaceage warrior > I fly upside down in space > My reflexes and reactions > Are a part of the machine > > I'm the right stuff baby the right stuff > Just watch my trail... > > When the temperature needle flickers > Around Mach twenty-five > And something strange is happening > That's when I come alive > It just ain't no time for robots > When someone has to drive > > I'm the right stuff baby the right stuff > Just watch my trail.... > > In training for this moment > I've spent my entire life > And even as tiles fall away > My mind's sharp as a knife > And even if I lose this bird > I'll die a falling star > > Cause I'm the right stuff baby the right stuff > The right stuff baby the right stuff > The right stuff baby the right stuff > Now build anew.... > Just build anew..... > And follow my trail... > Coooool! Joe From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Feb 8 01:40:33 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 17:10:33 +1030 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: I'm even gonna be there at the airport with a beautiful psychedelic indian style carpet rolled out and semi naked beauties to sprinkle their path with sweet scented flower petals. ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.first-zone.com/?AID=17490 (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > Michael, > > You will do anything to get tha tour of Australia. > Made me laff, mate. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > alter an email to make it read better From capcloud at HAWKLORD.COM Sat Feb 8 15:11:31 2003 From: capcloud at HAWKLORD.COM (Captain Cloud) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:11:31 -0500 Subject: HW: Canterbury Fayre 2001 audio quality Message-ID: Has anyone picked up the 'Canterbury Fayre 2001' just out from Voiceprint? I happened to notice that the credits list 6 folks, but left out Huw. This is even funnier when you realize that Huw is given songwriting credits twice on the same page, Huw is obviously the guitar player when you listen (plus some vocals), and Huw's name is even mentioned first when Dave lists the band members at the encore! :-) The show itself is a good one, and I'm glad they released it. Although there were two tricky spots on it where the audio quality distracted me. At one spot at 1:33min into Levitation, there is a sound (something from the drum?) appearing repeatedly, which sounds just like a click on a bad CD. It happens again at 2:03min. However, I *think* that is what the live show actually sounded like, instead of this just being a bad CD. Still, an unexpected sound that slightly confused me. The other spot is much worse. Right around 9:01mins into Levitation, at the finale shout of "LEVITATION!", there is a series of crackles and then a burst of static. This sounds like the recording was overloaded when the engineer brought up the volume, but I'm just guessing here. Other than these spots, overall this is an excellent recording of a pretty good show. Definitely worth acquiring...with the audio caveats mentioned already. Part of this email is my goal to discover if my CD is in any way unique (meaning I should return it for replacement), or whether this is just the nature of the recording (meaning live with it, or complain to Voiceprint). So if anyone can confirm the above audio comments, please speak up. Cheers! Captain Cloud capcloud at hawklord.com <...sneaking back into lurk mode...> From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Feb 8 16:06:40 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:06:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Updates Message-ID: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; + + + + + STAR WARRIORS + + + + See Mission Control Updates for Latest Info. . . . . http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm www.hawkwind.com + + + MESSAGE ENDS + + + ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Feb 8 16:35:18 2003 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 21:35:18 +0000 Subject: HW: Canterbury Fayre 2001 audio quality In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- Captain Cloud wrote: > Has anyone picked up the 'Canterbury Fayre 2001' > just out from Voiceprint? > I happened to notice that the credits list 6 folks, > but left out Huw. Unfortunately this is par for the course with HW nowadays - they can't even get their own line-up right. Harvey Bainbridge was missed off the Yule Ritual CD for example, even though Dave introduces him quite early on. Still, at least Huw retained his writing credits - Calvert lost his from 2 tracks on Yule Ritual...er, not that I imagine he's that bothered now of course. > At one spot at 1:33min into Levitation, there is a > sound (something from the > drum?) appearing repeatedly, which sounds just like > a click on a bad CD. It > happens again at 2:03min. However, I *think* that > is what the live show > actually sounded like, instead of this just being a > bad CD. Still, an > unexpected sound that slightly confused me. > The other spot is much worse. Right around 9:01mins > into Levitation, at the > finale shout of "LEVITATION!", there is a series of > crackles and then a > burst of static. This sounds like the recording was > overloaded when the > engineer brought up the volume, but I'm just > guessing here. It's not just your copy (sorry!), sounds like that on my copy too. A small price to pay for such a good coupla CDs I reckon. AL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK Sat Feb 8 16:43:54 2003 From: dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK (Dr _ Technical) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:43:54 -0500 Subject: HW: Updates Message-ID: I see Arthur Brown is only guesting on vocals rather than being *the vocalist*. Still, I can't wait to hear the new album(s) and see the tour schedule. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 8 17:03:51 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:03:51 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: Australia? Is there such a place? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cpt Blue Skin" To: Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > start? > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > Starring: > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > patronage. > From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sat Feb 8 17:08:03 2003 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:08:03 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: > Australia? Is there such a place? Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like the moonlandings and religion. From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sat Feb 8 17:19:43 2003 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 17:19:43 -0500 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: Thats where they put bolts through their nostrils and drink pickle juice. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > Australia? Is there such a place? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > alter an email to make it read better > > > > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > > start? > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > > > Starring: > > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > > patronage. > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 8 17:30:09 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:30:09 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: We're not going there then! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > Thats where they put bolts through their nostrils and drink pickle juice. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > alter an email to make it read better > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > > alter an email to make it read better > > > > > > > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > > > > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > > > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > > > start? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > > > > > Starring: > > > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > > > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > > > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > > > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > > > > > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > > > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > > > patronage. > > > > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 8 17:31:40 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:31:40 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: Perhaps that is why there are so many "Australians" over here; they do not have a real country of their own:). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like the > moonlandings and religion. > From dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK Sun Feb 9 00:36:17 2003 From: dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK (Dr _ Technical) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 00:36:17 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised Message-ID: Two gigs are advertised for Birmingham and Bristol in March. http://www.ticketline.co.uk/atoz.asp?Initial=H From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 9 01:20:26 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:50:26 +1030 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: Yup - Im standing on it. :-) ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.first-zone.com/?AID=17490 (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 8:33 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > Australia? Is there such a place? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > alter an email to make it read better > > > > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > > start? > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > > > Starring: > > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > > patronage. > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 9 01:21:43 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:51:43 +1030 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: This is australia calling...... Australia calling.... ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.first-zone.com/?AID=17490 (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like the > moonlandings and religion. From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 9 01:23:58 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:53:58 +1030 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: and we drive super fast cars in the desert looking for petrol to steal and fethered fools to slaughter - ARGH HAHAH heiii I think I strained my voice...... anyone got a losenge? ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.first-zone.com/?AID=17490 (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > Thats where they put bolts through their nostrils and drink pickle juice. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > alter an email to make it read better > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > > alter an email to make it read better > > > > > > > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > > > > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > > > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > > > start? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > > > > > Starring: > > > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > > > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > > > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > > > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > > > > > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > > > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > > > patronage. > > > > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 9 01:25:10 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:55:10 +1030 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: Don't listen to him he made it all up ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.first-zone.com/?AID=17490 (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > We're not going there then! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > alter an email to make it read better > > > > Thats where they put bolts through their nostrils and drink pickle juice. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin J Allen" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > > alter an email to make it read better > > > > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM > > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt > to > > > alter an email to make it read better > > > > > > > > > > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > > > > > > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > > > > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > > > > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > > > > start? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > > > > > > > Starring: > > > > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > > > > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > > > > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > > > > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > > > > > > > > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > > > > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > > > > patronage. > > > > > > > > > > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 9 05:17:05 2003 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:17:05 +0000 Subject: OFF: OM Riff Tab Message-ID: Does anyone have tab for the OM Riff? (As used by Gong Family/Ozrics/ETC) Since I seem to be listening to it repeatedly this morning ;-) Rich W NP: OM Mane Padme Hum - Invisible Opera Company of Tibet (UK) From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 9 05:46:51 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:46:51 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised Message-ID: Hmmmm......let me check where they got that info; those are not dates that I recognise. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr _ Technical" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:36 AM Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > Two gigs are advertised for Birmingham and Bristol in March. > > http://www.ticketline.co.uk/atoz.asp?Initial=H > From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Feb 9 05:49:50 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (t.byrne) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:49:50 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: Based on some of the weirder posts I have seen, the moonlandings are still going on and one or two list correspondents are actively sending from that location. Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:08:03 -0000 From: "Captain Bl at ck" Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > Australia? Is there such a place? Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like the moonlandings and religion. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 9 05:54:50 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:54:50 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: I thought they were from even further out than that! ----- Original Message ----- From: "t.byrne" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > Based on some of the weirder posts I have seen, the moonlandings are still > going on and one or two list correspondents are actively sending from that > location. > > > Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:08:03 -0000 > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like the > moonlandings and religion. > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Feb 9 06:15:38 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:15:38 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: Planet Gong, most of them. :-) Cheers, Rich. > I thought they were from even further out than that! > > > > > Based on some of the weirder posts I have seen, the moonlandings are still > > going on and one or two list correspondents are actively sending from that > > location. > > > > > > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like > the > > moonlandings and religion. > > > From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 9 06:40:48 2003 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:40:48 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised Message-ID: A quick confirmation or definitive denial would be nice..I need to figure whether to get tickets for Turner & Co in Exeter or Hawkwind in Bristol (can't do both) and I know which would be the prefered option ;-) Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > Hmmmm......let me check where they got that info; those are not dates that I > recognise. > > Colin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr _ Technical" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:36 AM > Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > > > > Two gigs are advertised for Birmingham and Bristol in March. > > > > http://www.ticketline.co.uk/atoz.asp?Initial=H > > > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Feb 9 07:35:58 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:35:58 +0800 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: Some of us put bolts elsewhere (Carlton footballer) and pickle juice is called beer here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:19 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > Thats where they put bolts through their nostrils and drink pickle juice. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > alter an email to make it read better > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > > alter an email to make it read better > > > > > > > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > > > > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > > > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > > > start? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > > > > > Starring: > > > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > > > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > > > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > > > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > > > > > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > > > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > > > patronage. > > > > > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Feb 9 07:37:07 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:37:07 +0800 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: Aww! That's an eastern states habit! We're all cool in the West! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:30 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > We're not going there then! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > alter an email to make it read better > > > > Thats where they put bolts through their nostrils and drink pickle juice. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin J Allen" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to > > alter an email to make it read better > > > > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:04 AM > > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt > to > > > alter an email to make it read better > > > > > > > > > > I cant believe my eyes. Am I dreaming? Tour of Australia? Soon? > > > > > > > > *please read the disclaimer at the end of this email > > > > > > > > > > This should be announced very soon:). > > > > > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good list you've got here. > > > > > > > Does anyone know when the next Hawkwind tour of the > > > > {copy}Australia{paste} is likely to > > > > > start? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE END .... > > > > > > > > Starring: > > > > Mark Hamill - as the small furry gerbil > > > > Michael Cain - as Adolf Hitler > > > > Phil Colins - as Jesus and the other small furry gerbil > > > > Richard Harris - as the man who is very afraid of small furry gerbils > > > > > > > > > > > > This email and its characters are ficticious and any similarity anyone > > > > living or not quite so alive is a coincidence. Thank you for your > > > > patronage. > > > > > > > > > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Feb 9 07:38:10 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:38:10 +0800 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: We just go to Blighty to laugh at the English cricketers... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:31 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > Perhaps that is why there are so many "Australians" over here; they do not > have a real country of their own:). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like > the > > moonlandings and religion. > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 9 09:13:24 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:43:24 +1030 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better Message-ID: und ze south ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com http://www.first-zone.com/?AID=17490 (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable - just orible attempt to alter an email to make it read better > Aww! That's an eastern states habit! We're all cool in the West! From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Feb 9 09:35:20 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 09:35:20 -0500 Subject: Hawk Zine back issues needed Message-ID: Hello all, Dedicated Hawkwind fan Iain Khan has undertaken a project to get all issues of Dietrich Pless' Hawk Zine online. The fledgeling site can be found at http://www.hawkzineonline.de. I'm posting this message for him because he doesn't have access to this group. Iain's problem is that there are many issues of Hawk Zine that he doesn't have and which Dietrich no longer has either. The missing issues are numbers 1-40; 42; 43; 44; 47; 49; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 60. So if anyone out there can help and either send these back issues to Dietrich, or even help out by scanning the entire issues and emailing them to Iain he would be most grateful. I'm sure you will all agree that making these available to all on the internet would make for a valuable resource. For more information you can email Iain at hawkzine at web.de If you can mail the missing copies of Hawk Zine they should go directly to Dietrich (but email Iain first to avoid duplicate efforts). You'll find Dietrich Pless at Schillerstrasse 9, D-65817 Eppstein, Germany. Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Feb 9 09:59:00 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 09:59:00 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: CIRCLE Tribute Special Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (February 8, 2003): We've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #68), which is a CIRCLE & friends tribute special. See the playlist below. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio show #68: Circle & Friends Tribute Circle is a band from Finland who play an exciting blend of Krautrock, Space Rock, Psychedelia, and Trance, to produce a sound that is uniquely their own. Lead Circle member Jussi Lehtisalo is involved in various other interesting projects as well. Circle - "Kalat" (from Hissi) Circle - "Dedofiktion" (from Prospekt) Circle - "Kekkone" (from Taantumus) Circle - "Merid" (from Meronia) Circle - "Fone" (from Point-ep/Kollekt) Ektroverde - "Orange" (from Integral) Tree Sine - Jump To The Moon" (from Flourescent Tunnelvision) Circle - "Lis??pui" (from Andexelt) Circle - "Kartano" (from Pori) Pharoah Overlord - "Landslide Non Stop" (from #1) Ektroverde - "Taitaja" (from Arpeggio) Circle - "Isaak=Gilded" (from Fraten) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Feb 9 12:17:17 2003 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:17:17 -0500 Subject: film footage In-Reply-To: <1cf301c2c6d1$9c8d84e0$0200a8c0@xl5> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:31:42PM +0800, William Duffy wrote: => Is the Hawklords 78 footage you mention have them performing 25 Years On? If => so, I did make a recording of this video clip back in the days (long before => Beta) when I had a recorder by Philips which used a format called simply => VCR. In the UK this format was known as "Video 2000". From a technical perspective, it was superior even to Betamax. Alas, it was the third major consumer format on the scene, arriving really late in the game, and so stood a snowball's chance in hell of beating out VHS (which was technically the worst, but won out). A friend's family owned one of the Video 2000 format VCRs, and it was really nice. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Of course the *people* don't want war. [...] But, after all, it is the *leaders* of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. [...] Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same way in any country." --- Hermann Goering during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 9 14:50:47 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:50:47 -0000 Subject: OFF: Stonehenge - going underground (the road not the Monument!) Message-ID: >From the CBA British Archaeology journal - March issue no.69 "After more than ten years of debate on the future of the main roads at Stonehenge, the Government has decided to place the A303 in a 1.3 mile (2.1km) bored tunnel. The A344 will be closed. After a public inquiry later this year, the work on the tunnel could start in 2005 and be completed three years after that at an expected cost of ?183 million. The design of the tunnel has yet to be finalised. The decision to build a bored tunnel, rather than a cut-and-cover tunnel, as proposed in 1999, follows persistent pressure from heritage bodies including the CBA, English Heritage and the National Trust (BA, December). CBA Director George Lambrick welcomed the decision as a 'very great improvement' on the original plan, but regretted that there had been no political will for a longer bored tunnel. 'A 4.5km tunnel would cost less than the Millennium Dome, but it would provide a benefit not for a single year but for generations,' he said." ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Feb 9 15:17:10 2003 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:17:10 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised Message-ID: And you need to be told? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > A quick confirmation or definitive denial would be nice..I need to figure > whether to get tickets for Turner & Co in Exeter or Hawkwind in Bristol > (can't do both) and I know which would be the prefered option ;-) > > Ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > > > > Hmmmm......let me check where they got that info; those are not dates that > I > > recognise. > > > > Colin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dr _ Technical" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:36 AM > > Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > > > > > > > Two gigs are advertised for Birmingham and Bristol in March. > > > > > > http://www.ticketline.co.uk/atoz.asp?Initial=H > > > > > > > From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Sun Feb 9 15:45:09 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:45:09 +0100 Subject: HW: some, OFF: much Message-ID: Hi Folks... I've missed the last bus outta the woods back towards home already, so now I have another 3 km night stroll through the woods to look forward to...but no sense leaving now. The train from Siggenthal only goes every hour, so I have 45 minutes to wait to put myself onto the right connection. So...time to kill...how 'bout some more free association writing of my current thoughts? If you'll let me indulge. I'm no Buddha, but I'm getting pretty fat and happy these days. Too much damn chocolate and cheese. You know, in this silly country (which I have to admit I find kind of 'endearing' though), they even make SOFT DRINKS out of milk? It's called Rivella, and because it actually tastes like lark's vomit, my other non-Swiss friends and I call it Revolting. There's a serious beef cattle:milk cow ratio problem here, since you need to take out a loan to buy a kg of hamburger here, whereas the only cheap food item here is chocolate. Which is terribly addictive. But then I think perhaps the most addictive substance on earth is not heroin or cocaine, but rather Pringles potato chips. Which they have here as well, even in Paprika flavor (!), which I've begun to develop a taste for. Well, ok, there's a partial update on the thinkprogressive.de page about this summer's LAST Burg Herzberg festival in rural Germany (I'm very happy I'll see at least one). Here are some names that Kalle's listed...not a bad start. Damo Suzuki Network Fairport Convention Birth Control Living Blues Caravan Epitaph Embryo Adaro Man Also, Nektar, who are starting to rearrange their intended Fall 2002 Europe tour, are also looking to join the lineup, which would improve things greatly. I'm not sure what Amon Duul II is doing this summer, but they look to be getting some dates of their own going (finally) after letting last Fall slide by also. They're listed at Spirit of 66 in Verviers, Belgium for April 13, 2003, and if need be, I'll ride 6.5 hours on the train for that gig. But seeing as they're from Munich, I shouldn't have to do that. So, with the end of Burg Herzberg and the end of Strange Days US, I wonder about the future of "Space Rock, the Next Generation." Is it headed for another long hiatus? I'm really starting to feel like maybe the peak of its return happened in ~1999 and that ironically since 2001 we've seen the bubble burst a little bit. Maybe not to the same degree as NASDAQ, but... US space rock has suffered many losses in recent years, including Farflung & P-hed (to their electronic alter-ego), and a host of retirements (Sky Cries Mary, Quarkspace and ArcMet to retirement, and Das Ludicroix and Born to Go to health, and Alien Planetscapes has suffered too though Doug continues). I don't know what the 2 Steve's have done, if they did indeed emigrate to the UK last fall (as all indications were), their activity there has been greatly hidden and Star Nation (with a great full album in hand) seem to do nothing to support it. Maybe they will arise at Summerfest (if itself arises!). I know that the Ashtabula tapes, a jam session featuring an Arc Met/Quarkspace/Sun Machine-veteran 'supergroup,' are still intended for future release. But hopefully this won't be wrapping up the end of an era! One positive note is that groups in Texas seem to be producing output in similar quantities as they did in the '90s, even though I don't think any of them can really afford to play out live outside their home state where much of their fan base likely is (or *would* be, if they could!). I've just recently gotten some of the new Hungarian albums, and I have to say they're not as good as the ones from just a few years ago. I think they're following the same trail as the early 90s UK free-festy psych bands blazed....i.e., going more from rock towards electronica. Korai Orom in the middle of their current career, i.e., 1997, hit the proper balance of the 2 IMHO with a fantastic album. But the 2001 disc didn't do the same for me...it wasn't really more electronic, just less interesting. Colorstar is more trancey now, and I didn't like it as much. The second Nine Invisibles didn't really improve from the first either (back to the UK now), and is hardly what Ship of Fools was. Also, too, Nordic space-rock continues, but I don't know that it goes with the same gusto as the mid- to late-90s. Darxtar released the interesting Tombola album, which was far different from anything they'd done (or anybody else really) in the past. But they hardly seem to be alive, let alone active on the circuit. Pseudo Sun finally got their album out and it's a good one, but can they afford to do much live? In the UK, Quimby and Litmus are active, but seem to rely quite a lot on opportunities presented by the likes of established names (Ozrics and Hawkwind) for live dates. Not meaning to demean them, as I think they're both entirely capable on their own of carrying their own shows...just stating a(n unfortunate) fact. OK, 'nuff that. Too depressing to think about any more. So I saw Magma in Geneva last weekend...good show, but they don't seem like they should be playing in a dance-club/bar. And too many damn smokers again. Europe is really quite preferable to me in many (if not most) ways to those United States, but man, the negative vibe that smokers in public places in the US feel is really something that should be imported here (not terrible pop music!). I work in a freaking radiochemistry laboratory, where people are allowed to smoke! Only in certain places mind you, but still...it's ridiculous. There's a lot more PDA here as well, and very strange girl-girl non-romantic kissing, but that doesn't cause me any permanent damage (physically, anyway). But virtually every time I see a young, confident, well-dressed female get off the train (I see the males too, but I guess they don't make as much of an impression for some reason), the first thing they do is light up (still on the platform which means everybody is lighting up). No wonder everybody is so bloody thin here. In Germany, you can buy cigarettes in vending machines right on the street every single city block it seems! Gee, I wonder why so many 12-year olds get addicted to smoking when they're still too young to know better. It's stupid. Well, I've used up my time, and have to start out now. I had other ideas to offer, but those'll have to wait. Hey...when are War of the Worlds tix going to be available to order from outside the UK? The one link from MC took you to a place to order (I think) from only inside the UK, and the other said they weren't available yet. I've committed to going now, so...see ya' there. Anybody travelling from near Luton up and back around then? Hopp Schwiiz! (I've been to St. Moritz for ski championships and this is what they cheer...funny people live here.) Grakkl (FAA) From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 9 16:11:23 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:11:23 -0000 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: We are quite capable of doing that ourselves! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > We just go to Blighty to laugh at the English cricketers... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:31 AM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > > > Perhaps that is why there are so many "Australians" over here; they do not > > have a real country of their own:). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:08 PM > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > > > > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > > > Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like > > the > > > moonlandings and religion. > > > > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 9 16:11:58 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:11:58 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised Message-ID: I will do so tomorrow, once I have spoken to the venue and the agent. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > A quick confirmation or definitive denial would be nice..I need to figure > whether to get tickets for Turner & Co in Exeter or Hawkwind in Bristol > (can't do both) and I know which would be the prefered option ;-) > > Ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > > > > Hmmmm......let me check where they got that info; those are not dates that > I > > recognise. > > > > Colin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dr _ Technical" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:36 AM > > Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > > > > > > > Two gigs are advertised for Birmingham and Bristol in March. > > > > > > http://www.ticketline.co.uk/atoz.asp?Initial=H > > > > > > > > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Feb 9 16:25:16 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:25:16 -0000 Subject: film footage Message-ID: The VCR format was Philips' precursor to the V2000 format. VCR, if I recall correctly, had the two spools of tape sitting one upon the other in the cassette so the tape travelled at an angle, I guess might have meant that the head didn't have to spin at an angle? V2000 came out after Betamax, and like audio cassettes aloud the tape to be turned over, doubling the play lenght per cassette. Technically quite impressive but came out far too late to have any real chance of catching on. We had one & I've still got some cassettes for it somewhere. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: Re: film footage > On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 09:31:42PM +0800, William Duffy wrote: > => Is the Hawklords 78 footage you mention have them performing 25 Years On? If > => so, I did make a recording of this video clip back in the days (long before > => Beta) when I had a recorder by Philips which used a format called simply > => VCR. > > In the UK this format was known as "Video 2000". From a technical > perspective, it was superior even to Betamax. Alas, it was the third > major consumer format on the scene, arriving really late in the game, > and so stood a snowball's chance in hell of beating out VHS (which was > technically the worst, but won out). A friend's family owned one > of the Video 2000 format VCRs, and it was really nice. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Of course the *people* don't want war. [...] But, after all, it is the > *leaders* of the country who determine the policy and it is always a > simple matter to drag the people along whether it is a democracy, a > fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. [...] > Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of > the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are > being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and > exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same way in any > country." > > --- Hermann Goering during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Feb 9 21:49:57 2003 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:49:57 -0500 Subject: HW: some, OFF: much:larks vomit...too much Message-ID: Great posting, keith...but i'm i worried about how you recognize the taste of lark's vomit....eewwwww tim 8>)... Henderson Keith wrote: > > Hi Folks... You know, in this silly country (which I > have to admit I find kind of 'endearing' though), they even make > SOFT DRINKS out of milk? It's called Rivella, and because it > actually tastes like lark's vomit, my other non-Swiss friends and > I call it Revolting. > Grakkl (FAA) From HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM Mon Feb 10 06:50:46 2003 From: HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM (Dave Hess) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 06:50:46 EST Subject: HW: some, OFF: much Message-ID: RE:Date:? ? Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:45:09 +0100 From:? ? Henderson Keith Subject: HW: some, OFF: much I know that the Ashtabula tapes, a jam session featuring an Arc Met/Quarkspace/Sun Machine-veteran 'supergroup,' are still intended for future release.? But hopefully this won't be wrapping up the end of an era! We are working on a band name and songs names now. C-Yaaaaaaaaaa Dave I I /\\ /I /\ /--l--I\ I I---\ I-- I----\ I------I /----\\ /\ / I/ \ /\ / I I \ I I I I- I I I I/ \\/ \/ I \ \/ \/ --I--I \I I__/ I_ I__/ From anne_aesthetic at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 10 08:21:25 2003 From: anne_aesthetic at HOTMAIL.COM (Fiddler) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:21:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: OM Riff Tab Message-ID: Hi, If no one else has it ready transcribed I can write down the (variations on) main riff -a text file or something?- as on You/Ozrics Live wossname tape etc If you're after Hillage's 'Master Builder' solos that might be a bit much to handle..... Cheers, Simon. On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:17:05 +0000, Rich Warren wrote: >Does anyone have tab for the OM Riff? > >(As used by Gong Family/Ozrics/ETC) > >Since I seem to be listening to it repeatedly this morning ;-) > >Rich W > >NP: OM Mane Padme Hum - Invisible Opera Company of Tibet (UK) From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 10 08:27:33 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:27:33 +0800 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc Message-ID: Yes, but it's more fun being an aussie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > We are quite capable of doing that ourselves! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill & Cynthia" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > > > We just go to Blighty to laugh at the English cricketers... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin J Allen" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:31 AM > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > > > > > > Perhaps that is why there are so many "Australians" over here; they do > not > > > have a real country of their own:). > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:08 PM > > > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > > > > > > > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > > > > > Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, > like > > > the > > > > moonlandings and religion. > > > > > > > > > > From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Mon Feb 10 08:55:48 2003 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:55:48 -0500 Subject: HW: some, OFF: much:larks vomit...too much Message-ID: There were free samples with the first 1000 copies of King Crimson's Lark's Vomit In Aspic On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 21:49:57 -0500, Tim wrote: >Great posting, keith...but i'm i worried >about how you recognize the taste of >lark's vomit....eewwwww >tim 8>)... > >Henderson Keith wrote: > > > > Hi Folks... > You know, in this silly country (which I > > have to admit I find kind of 'endearing' though), they even make > > SOFT DRINKS out of milk? It's called Rivella, and because it > > actually tastes like lark's vomit, my other non-Swiss friends and > > I call it Revolting. > > Grakkl (FAA) From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Mon Feb 10 10:43:25 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:43:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: Farflung - Belief Module on Ebay Message-ID: 1 copy being auctioned here...an oop CD of potential interest to some (?)...FYI Grakkl (FAA) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2507195592&category=1574 From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Feb 10 12:48:27 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:48:27 -0500 Subject: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc In-Reply-To: <007801c2cfc1$d9f5d640$883dfea9@oemcomputer>; from colin@CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:31:40PM -0000 Message-ID: They must *really* be the vanguard of the alien horde. Clearly it's time for the legendary Hawklords to gird themselves for battle :-) So, speaking of alien invasions, and old TV series about same ... the amazing amount of trash in Roy Thinnes's shady past includes a movie called "Satan's School for Girls". I'm sure it's just awful -- but what a great title! On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:31:40PM -0000, Colin J Allen wrote: > Perhaps that is why there are so many "Australians" over here; they do not > have a real country of their own:). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:08 PM > Subject: Re: Hi Folks - a shamefull - dispicable email etc > > > > > Australia? Is there such a place? > > > > Well I've never seen it. Maybe its all part of the big conspiracy, like > the > > moonlandings and religion. > > -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Mon Feb 10 15:59:24 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:59:24 -0500 Subject: I'm back... Message-ID: Hello, not sure who is still here.... I was a member of BOC-L, for oh, I dunno, 4-5 years in the late 90s, at some point changed addresses and never re-subbed. Anyway, hope to remain on this time. What's new? Did Theo ever get that tape delivered? Any new fun stuff on the BOC FAQ? Did the "Rub Out Doug Smiff" project ever get enough funds for another sonic robot? From mark.painter at BTOPENWORLD.COM Tue Feb 11 05:40:48 2003 From: mark.painter at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Mark Painter) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:40:48 -0000 Subject: Bristol Message-ID: At the venue for the Bristol gig, they deny all knowlege of Hawkwind, and their site has another band on that night.... From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 11 06:29:47 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 07:29:47 EDT Subject: I'm back... In-Reply-To: <00d901c2d147$4da88c50$298f8497@AAA> Message-ID: On 10 Feb 2003 at 15:59, Andrew Apold wrote: > Hello, not sure who is still here.... > > I was a member of BOC-L, for oh, I dunno, 4-5 years in the late 90s, > at some point changed addresses and never re-subbed. > > Anyway, hope to remain on this time. What's new? Did Theo ever get > that tape delivered? Which one? Hey, you ballbuster, welcome back! theo From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 11 07:54:46 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:54:46 +0800 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: Hi Keith CDs are going out tomorrow Enjoy... Cheers Bill From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 11 08:07:29 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:07:29 +0800 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: Ahhh Shizzzzzzzeeeeeeeen!!!!! Sorry about that all. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > Hi Keith > > CDs are going out tomorrow > > Enjoy... > > Cheers > Bill > From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Tue Feb 11 08:24:20 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:24:20 -0500 Subject: I'm back... Message-ID: > > Anyway, hope to remain on this time. What's new? Did Theo ever get > > that tape delivered? > > Which one? Hey, you ballbuster, welcome back! I think it was going to someone in New Mexico. That's all I remember. From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Tue Feb 11 08:25:29 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:25:29 -0500 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: > Hi Keith > > CDs are going out tomorrow > > Enjoy... (gasp) another HW covers project? I'm late into this but I've never replaced my lost tapes (of the last project, not THE lost tapes) when they were stolen, is it too late to get in on this one? I have a lot of blanks CDRs.... From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Tue Feb 11 09:33:25 2003 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 07:33:25 -0700 Subject: I'm back... In-Reply-To: <010a01c2d1d1$13d966e0$298f8497@AAA> Message-ID: Hey, I'm in New Mexico. You talking about me? Mark mlicht at cybermesa.com -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Andrew Apold Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:24 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: I'm back... > > Anyway, hope to remain on this time. What's new? Did Theo ever get > > that tape delivered? > > Which one? Hey, you ballbuster, welcome back! I think it was going to someone in New Mexico. That's all I remember. From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Tue Feb 11 09:49:21 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:49:21 -0500 Subject: I'm back... Message-ID: name doesn't ring a bell.... was there an Alex in NM? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Licht" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:33 AM Subject: Re: I'm back... > Hey, I'm in New Mexico. You talking about me? > > Mark > mlicht at cybermesa.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andrew Apold > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:24 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: I'm back... > > > > > Anyway, hope to remain on this time. What's new? Did Theo ever get > > > that tape delivered? > > > > Which one? Hey, you ballbuster, welcome back! > > I think it was going to someone in New Mexico. That's all I remember. > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 11 08:57:03 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:57:03 EDT Subject: I'm back... In-Reply-To: <012c01c2d1dc$cc306850$298f8497@AAA> Message-ID: On 11 Feb 2003 at 9:49, Andrew Apold wrote: : BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > name doesn't ring a bell.... was there an Alex in NM? > I think his name was Manuel. He quit the list right after I sent him the tapes! theo From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Tue Feb 11 09:59:12 2003 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 07:59:12 -0700 Subject: I'm back... In-Reply-To: <012c01c2d1dc$cc306850$298f8497@AAA> Message-ID: Dunno...but, there must be ;-) M -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Andrew Apold Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:49 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: I'm back... name doesn't ring a bell.... was there an Alex in NM? From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Tue Feb 11 10:00:43 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:00:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: larks vomit...too much Message-ID: Tim (the Enchanter) asks... > Great posting, keith...but i'm i worried > about how you recognize the taste of > lark's vomit....eewwwww Kinda like 'Crunchy Frogs.' :) Grakkl (FAA) From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Tue Feb 11 10:12:20 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:12:20 +0100 Subject: some, OFF: much Message-ID: I said, prematurely... > US space rock has suffered many losses in recent years, including > Farflung & P-hed (to their electronic alter-ego), and a host of > retirements (Sky Cries Mary, Quarkspace and ArcMet to retirement, Well, I don't know why I said this, faulty memory I guess, but of course ArcMet hasn't yet called it a day, just that Deb has gone on to other things and Paul & Greg have carried on with a guy named Murph behind the skins. So those of you in the NE US still can hope to see them around at least. Grakkl (FAA), continually surprised at who still reads boc-l on a regular basis, but also baffled as to why so few seem to contribute, and accordingly has started to peruse the yahoo list more these days 'cause there's more and more activity over there (some of it no more relevant than some stuff here FWIW), but who isn't *quite* ready to jump ship yet as I still feel this one has 'tradition' on its side, but then two lists are too much to follow (esp. if there's some redundancy) so what to do? P.S. NB: If you never hear from me again, I've died in a terrible ski accident in the Alps...not the best (ie., safest) place to experience your first ever attempt at downhill (or *any* form of) skiing, but what else to do? From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Tue Feb 11 10:42:04 2003 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:42:04 +0000 Subject: HW : news ? Message-ID: Keith, quite correctly points out that there have been few posts of late. I have no net access at the minute (no access at work, PC playing up at home) so could somebody please give me a breif summary as to what the latest news from MC was ? There seems to be some confusion about tour dates, can anyone clarify, or are we all waiting....? Thanks in advance Neil. From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 11 11:09:04 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:39:04 +1030 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: busted --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:37 PM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > Ahhh Shizzzzzzzeeeeeeeen!!!!! > > Sorry about that all. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill & Cynthia" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:54 PM > Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > Hi Keith > > > > CDs are going out tomorrow > > > > Enjoy... > > > > Cheers > > Bill > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 11 11:13:56 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:43:56 +1030 Subject: I'm back... Message-ID: New mexico. What a fascinating part of the world. Was there in 97 and went to Carlsbad caverns. Simply beautiful (the land) in its own special way. and the caves were a trip. Oh to be able to travel the entire planet in one life time and see everything. --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Licht To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:03 AM Subject: Re: I'm back... > Hey, I'm in New Mexico. You talking about me? > > Mark > mlicht at cybermesa.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andrew Apold > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:24 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: I'm back... > > > > > Anyway, hope to remain on this time. What's new? Did Theo ever get > > > that tape delivered? > > > > Which one? Hey, you ballbuster, welcome back! > > I think it was going to someone in New Mexico. That's all I remember. From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Feb 11 12:23:33 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:23:33 -0500 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call In-Reply-To: <015001c2d1cc$c1d39e00$85d43bcb@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: YO COLIN! Does the ban include these types of projects? Mike. From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Tue Feb 11 13:13:59 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:13:59 -0500 Subject: I'm back... Message-ID: > New mexico. What a fascinating part of the world. Was there in 97 and went > to Carlsbad caverns. Simply beautiful (the land) in its own special way. > and the caves were a trip. > Oh to be able to travel the entire planet in one life time and see > everything. I'm usually camping up in the Sacramento mts (between Carlsbad and Alamogordo) most summers around July. Love the area. Yeah, the caverns are great. Now if only someone would put a stage down there.... I remember when we were trying to get the Hawks as part of the Rowswell 50th anniversery, but the organizers had no idea who they were.... From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Tue Feb 11 13:59:47 2003 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:59:47 -0700 Subject: I'm back... In-Reply-To: <001f01c2d1e8$95044ca0$20e7223f@laptop> Message-ID: Yeah, and I hope to see Australia (and New Zealand) some day, especially as part of a tour by the Hawks. Keep up the pressure Michael. Mark -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Cpt Blue Skin Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:14 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: I'm back... New mexico. What a fascinating part of the world. Was there in 97 and went to Carlsbad caverns. Simply beautiful (the land) in its own special way. and the caves were a trip. Oh to be able to travel the entire planet in one life time and see everything. - From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 11 15:38:19 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:38:19 -0500 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:23:33 -0500, Mike Montfort wrote: >YO COLIN! > >Does the ban include these types of projects? This project doesn't include any recordings of Hawkwind. You'd have to ask representatives of the bands in question (many of whom can be found here). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 11 16:03:09 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:03:09 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised Message-ID: These are definitely not Hawkwind dates; we have never even heard of the Bristol venue and there has never been a gig arranged for that date in Birmingham. Tour dates are currently being booked and will be announced shortly; these will include Bristol and Birmingham (tickets for the original December dates will, of course, be honoured) and at least one London date. Colin Business Manager - Hawkwind ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr _ Technical" To: Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:36 AM Subject: Hawkwind 2003 gigs advertised > Two gigs are advertised for Birmingham and Bristol in March. > > http://www.ticketline.co.uk/atoz.asp?Initial=H > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 11 16:05:43 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:05:43 -0000 Subject: HW : news ? Message-ID: Tour dates are being booked at the moment; they will be announced as soon as they are all confirmed. The March gigs in Bristol and Birmingham advertised on Ticketline are not, and never have been, Hawkwind dates. Colin Business Manager - Hawkwind ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Shilladay" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: HW : news ? > Keith, quite correctly points out that there have been few posts of late. > > I have no net access at the minute (no access at work, PC playing up at > home) > so could somebody please give me a breif summary as to what the latest news > from MC was ? > > There seems to be some confusion about tour dates, can anyone clarify, or > are we all waiting....? > > Thanks in advance > Neil. > From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Feb 11 16:11:45 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:11:45 -0500 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call In-Reply-To: <200302112038.PAA16420@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Works for me. -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Doug Pearson Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:38 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:23:33 -0500, Mike Montfort wrote: >YO COLIN! > >Does the ban include these types of projects? This project doesn't include any recordings of Hawkwind. You'd have to ask representatives of the bands in question (many of whom can be found here). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 11 16:31:14 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:31:14 +0800 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: For what LOL. No Hawkwind content Michael. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cpt Blue Skin" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > busted > > --------------------------- > Cpt Blue Skin > (Alien Dream) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill & Cynthia > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > Ahhh Shizzzzzzzeeeeeeeen!!!!! > > > > Sorry about that all. > > > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill & Cynthia" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:54 PM > > Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > > > > Hi Keith > > > > > > CDs are going out tomorrow > > > > > > Enjoy... > > > > > > Cheers > > > Bill > > > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 11 16:31:54 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:31:54 +0800 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: Too late now LOL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Montfort" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:23 AM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > YO COLIN! > > Does the ban include these types of projects? > > Mike. > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 11 16:50:31 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:50:31 -0000 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: Far too late; by the way, listen to the medley (I think it is track 8 on the second disk) - stunning!!!! Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > Too late now LOL. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Montfort" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:23 AM > Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > YO COLIN! > > > > Does the ban include these types of projects? > > > > Mike. > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 11 16:08:32 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:08:32 -0000 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: No, no reason why it should. There is some incredibly impressive stuff on there (along with some less impressive); overall, a really interesting set. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Montfort" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:23 PM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > YO COLIN! > > Does the ban include these types of projects? > > Mike. > From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Feb 11 22:16:57 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:16:57 -0500 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call In-Reply-To: <003e01c2d211$bc404200$883dfea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Great to hear! _____________________________________________ Tact is the knack of making a point without making an enemy. -- Isaac Newton ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Colin J Allen ::Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:09 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call :: :: ::No, no reason why it should. There is some incredibly ::impressive stuff on ::there (along with some less impressive); overall, a really ::interesting set. :: ::Colin :: ::----- Original Message ----- ::From: "Mike Montfort" ::To: ::Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:23 PM ::Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call :: :: ::> YO COLIN! ::> ::> Does the ban include these types of projects? ::> ::> Mike. ::> From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 12 01:19:41 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:49:41 +1030 Subject: I'm back... Message-ID: I think I will take out a full page newspaper add somewhere somehow to get Hawk fans attention here in this country to make more people aware and to help organise a real spirit to make it happen. I'll let you know if I manage it. --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Licht To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:29 AM Subject: Re: I'm back... > Yeah, and I hope to see Australia (and New Zealand) some day, especially as > part of a tour by the Hawks. Keep up the pressure Michael. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Cpt Blue Skin > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:14 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: I'm back... > > > New mexico. What a fascinating part of the world. Was there in 97 and went > to Carlsbad caverns. Simply beautiful (the land) in its own special way. > and the caves were a trip. > Oh to be able to travel the entire planet in one life time and see > everything. > > - From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 12 01:39:29 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:09:29 +1030 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: Cheeky bugga aren't I. Tell me something Bill? What newspaper would you recomend in W.A. as being the most read paper? Any Vics, New sth welshmen or queenslanders on this list? Same question again. Feedback privatly much appreciated --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > For what LOL. No Hawkwind content Michael. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:09 AM > Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > busted > > > > --------------------------- > > Cpt Blue Skin > > (Alien Dream) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill & Cynthia > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:37 PM > > Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > > > > Ahhh Shizzzzzzzeeeeeeeen!!!!! > > > > > > Sorry about that all. > > > > > > Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bill & Cynthia" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:54 PM > > > Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > > > > > > > Hi Keith > > > > > > > > CDs are going out tomorrow > > > > > > > > Enjoy... > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Bill > > > > > > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 12 06:50:15 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 07:50:15 EDT Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:23:33 -0500, Mike Montfort > wrote: >YO COLIN! > >Does the ban include > these types of projects? > > This project doesn't include any recordings of Hawkwind. You'd have > to ask representatives of the bands in question (many of whom can be > found here). > But if you cover HW tunes, you'd need the writers' permission to use them. Technically, they could charge you for it! theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 12 08:27:18 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:27:18 GMT Subject: some, OFF: much In-Reply-To: Henderson Keith's message of Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: Henderson Keith writes: > P.S. NB: If you never hear from me again, I've died in a terrible ski > accident in the Alps...not the best (ie., safest) place to experience > your first ever attempt at downhill (or *any* form of) skiing, but > what else to do? Well OK, Colorado has better skiing, but many places in the Alps are good placs to ski and to start skiing and no more unsafe than most ski resorts. My first resort was Chamonix and I enjoyd Les Houches and Le Tour, though I found the mogul fields at Argentiere a bit daunting ;-) Just back from Torgon/Chatel/Morgins/Champoussin/Plaine Dranse and conditions are the best I've ever seen them: deep snow down to the resorts plus no wind and blue skies. FoFP From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Feb 12 08:28:50 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:28:50 +0800 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: Yes you are a cheeky bugga - since you're one of my leafs on this one HAHAHAHA Privately send me your addy Michael....etc The West Australian and the Sunday Times are the only two papers here. Lot's of country papers etc. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cpt Blue Skin" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:39 PM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > Cheeky bugga aren't I. > > Tell me something Bill? What newspaper would you recomend in W.A. as being > the most read paper? > > Any Vics, New sth welshmen or queenslanders on this list? Same question > again. > > Feedback privatly much appreciated > > --------------------------- > Cpt Blue Skin > (Alien Dream) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill & Cynthia > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > For what LOL. No Hawkwind content Michael. > > > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:09 AM > > Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > > > > busted > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > Cpt Blue Skin > > > (Alien Dream) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bill & Cynthia > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:37 PM > > > Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh Shizzzzzzzeeeeeeeen!!!!! > > > > > > > > Sorry about that all. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Bill & Cynthia" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:54 PM > > > > Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Keith > > > > > > > > > > CDs are going out tomorrow > > > > > > > > > > Enjoy... > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Feb 12 09:01:14 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:01:14 -0500 Subject: HW: Australia Newspaper Ad (was Covers All Final Call) In-Reply-To: <006101c2d29a$b103ad80$85d43bcb@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Howdy Cap'n', Why not submit a message to the Marketplace/Personals section of various papers as a call to arms? You can point interested parties to an online place to meet and begin stage one of your nefarious plans. Bwahahahahahahahaha. It would be much, much cheaper than trying to take out a full-page ad in a newspaper, believe me. An ad guy, Brian From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 12 10:39:05 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 02:09:05 +1030 Subject: HW: Australia Newspaper Ad (was Covers All Final Call) Message-ID: Yes - a full page ad on my own is much too ambitious. I'm thinking of further down the track - but never mind - I'll work it out one way or another. Thats why we got brains. Thanks for the ahhhh tip. Cheers. ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: HW: Australia Newspaper Ad (was Covers All Final Call) > Howdy Cap'n', > > Why not submit a message to the Marketplace/Personals section of various > papers as a call to arms? You can point interested parties to an online > place to meet and begin stage one of your nefarious plans. > Bwahahahahahahahaha. > > It would be much, much cheaper than trying to take out a full-page ad in a > newspaper, believe me. > > An ad guy, > Brian From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 12 14:16:29 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:46:29 +1030 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:58 PM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > Yes you are a cheeky bugga - since you're one of my leafs on this one > HAHAHAHA > Privately send me your addy Michael....etc Done - tho I cant recall what this is at all. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Feb 12 15:16:12 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:16:12 -0500 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 07:50:15 EDT, Ted Jackson wrote: >But if you cover HW tunes, you'd need the writers' permission to use them. There are only two conditions (at least under US copyright law) under which you need to get the writers' permission to cover a song: 1) No recording of the song has yet been released (for example, the Byrds' version of "Mr. Tambourine Man"). 2) The lyrics are significantly changed in a manner not under first ammendment protection (the best example of this was 2 Live Crew's cover of "Pretty Woman"; Roy Orbison's widow sued them for not getting permission to use X-rated, offensive lyrics with the song; the rappers won the case because their version was ruled to be a constitutionally-protected *parody* of the original "chaste" lyrics). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 12 16:00:48 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:00:48 -0000 Subject: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call Message-ID: I think that this particular line of discussion should probably end here. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: Re: ++++ HW: Covers All Final Call > > On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:23:33 -0500, Mike Montfort > > wrote: >YO COLIN! > >Does the ban include > > these types of projects? > > > > This project doesn't include any recordings of Hawkwind. You'd have > > to ask representatives of the bands in question (many of whom can be > > found here). > > > But if you cover HW tunes, you'd need the writers' permission to use them. > Technically, they could charge you for it! > > theo > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Feb 12 18:07:57 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:07:57 +0000 Subject: OFF: Ship of Fools new album In-Reply-To: <000701c26e00$045686b0$fd02efc3@ghostwheel3> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Alisa wrote: > there is a new album on Peaceville coming soon. Anyone knows are they > reunited? Wouldn't mind some information on this myself, if anyone's got any. I read somewhere that this new one (_Get This Mother Outta Here_ if I have that right) is a best of. This strikes me as odd as I believe you can squeeze both their actual albums onto a single CD. But I guess there were singles and compilation tracks which might mean you could get a different tracklisting with less filler in it? I don't know. Anyone do? Yours, Jon -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Wed Feb 12 18:39:56 2003 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:39:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ship of Fools new album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Alisa wrote: > > >>there is a new album on Peaceville coming soon. Anyone knows are they >>reunited? > > > Wouldn't mind some information on this myself, if anyone's got > any. I read somewhere that this new one (_Get This Mother Outta Here_ if I > have that right) is a best of. This strikes me as odd as I believe you can > squeeze both their actual albums onto a single CD. But I guess there were > singles and compilation tracks which might mean you could get a different > tracklisting with less filler in it? I don't know. Anyone do? Out There Somewhere comes in at 57:33 and Close Your Eyes is 55:39. According to my copies anyway. Jerry From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Feb 12 19:21:37 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:21:37 +0000 Subject: OFF: Fwd: Stop the World going GM Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Stop the World going GM Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:18:41 +0000 From: Ben Fagin To: various-others at blueyonder.co.uk Manatees, Deltics and their succession by General Motors [GM] or The Americanisation of Planet Earth In ancient days British Sailors exploring the new world would succumb to the charms of unknown and irresistible forces. In Homer's Oddysey, Oddyseus and his crew were enchanted onto the rocks by Manatees. They have been credited as the huge inspiration that drove men to manifold deeds both heroic and murderous. The name Manatee translates from the West Indian as Women's Breast. They have lived in the Southern Hemisphere for 50 Million years. 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Deltics displaced the A4s and A3s such as The Flying Scotsman. They were named after famous Racehorses and Regiments and numbered 22 production models and a prototype now in the National Railway Museum in York, England. The class was withdrawn by British Rail in 1982. There are currently three Deltics back on the Main Line with another two in preparation. All will be used on heritage railways and to haul mainline excursions. The Takeover by General Motors After it was decided to give the contract to replace British Diesels to the USA, a plan was drawn up for a standardised world class Freight Only Locomotive. The result is the Class 66 built by the General Motors company of Detroit, Michigan. There are about 350 in the UK at the moment with at least another 150 on order. There are orders for Deutshland, Norway, Switzerland` and many others. If we dont do anything soon The Whole World Will be shaking to the GM Motown Sound. Help Save The Manatees & Deltic Legend Stop The USA Taking over. Please Forward This Email. Manatees http://www.savethemanatee.org/ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=manatee Deltics www.thedps.co.uk www.ptfnasty.com ------------------------------------------------------- From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Feb 12 03:37:10 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:37:10 -0000 Subject: some, OFF: much Message-ID: > I said, prematurely... > > > US space rock has suffered many losses in recent years, including > > Farflung & P-hed (to their electronic alter-ego), and a host of > > retirements (Sky Cries Mary, Quarkspace and ArcMet to retirement, > > Well, I don't know why I said this, faulty memory I guess, but of > course ArcMet hasn't yet called it a day, just that Deb has gone on > to other things and Paul & Greg have carried on with a guy named > Murph behind the skins. So those of you in the NE US still can hope > to see them around at least. Any news on Alien Planetscapes? I remember news that Doug was very ill - anyone know anything? Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Feb 12 03:34:36 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:34:36 -0000 Subject: OFF: larks vomit...too much Message-ID: I feel that the box should bear a large red label, reading "WARNING! LARK'S VOMIT!" 'Spring Surprise' for me please. Yours etc, Edmund Wells. (And a side portion of Venezuelan Beaver Cheese please.) > Tim (the Enchanter) asks... > > > Great posting, keith...but i'm i worried > > about how you recognize the taste of > > lark's vomit....eewwwww > > Kinda like 'Crunchy Frogs.' :) > > Grakkl (FAA) > From Jason.Scruton at DFA.STATE.NY.US Thu Feb 13 11:04:56 2003 From: Jason.Scruton at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:04:56 -0500 Subject: HW: Mention in the albany metroland Message-ID: IN the record reviews: "Those lovably, furry, science fiction addled English hippy rockers Hawkwind have cas an impressively long shadow over contemporary rock, electronic, and ritual trance music since their early-70s heydya, when they regularly pplayed free shows under highway bridges and outside the gates of European rock festivals, scoring an improbable UK hit with "Silver Machine" (featuring none other than Lemmy Kilmister, later of Motorhead, on lead vocals). While the current cultural impact of the Hawks' music starships's wanderings have been diluted over the past five years or so by squabbling between rival alumni camps (one headed by guitarist Dave Brock, one by saxman Nik Turner), there's no shortage of guitar-and-ynthesizer wielding groups stepping forward to fill the blanga-sphere with choice smash-and-bash-flavoroed trance and space rock." Review goes on to say "yay", in more words, about ST37's "Down on Us" ad Southkill's self-titled disc. On the latter: "Southkill cut right to the heart of Ahwakwind's seminal sound, distilling the grind and groove of a lockstep-tight guitar-and-drum tandem into a fine, potent musical brew, equally suitable for meditation or marauding, depending on your mood." a lot of hyphens in this review. Odd. From piccallopaul at MSN.COM Thu Feb 13 12:08:46 2003 From: piccallopaul at MSN.COM (Paul Gartside) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:08:46 +0000 Subject: HW: Mention in the albany metroland Message-ID: Hi there, Piccallo Paul from Manchester,England here. I had the pleasure of watching the current Hawkwind line up, and Nik Turners "Space Ritual.net" band within acouple of weeks. Hawkwind were brilliant with a line up I hadn't seen since 1980, but Nik Turners line up was totally mind blowing. I've never heard a more Hawkwind souding gig in all the 23 years I've been watching them. There is a realy good event being advertisde around my little bit of the world for May, an all day gig in a park about 5 miles away from me celabrating the 25th annaversary of Jeff Waynes musical version of the war of the worlds, and Hawkwind are suporting it. Piccallo Paul, Oldham, Manchester, England, U.K ps Try to stop your president from starting a war, I sm trying to stop my prime minister! >From: "Scruton, Jason" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Mention in the albany metroland >Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:04:56 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from cpimssmtpa40.msn.com ([207.46.181.94]) by >mc8-f7.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 13 Feb >2003 08:23:28 -0800 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu ([192.107.46.113]) by cpimssmtpa40.msn.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:21:35 -0800 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu (listserv at listserv.spc.edu >[192.107.46.113])by listserv.spc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SPC-4.1-NORELAY) with >ESMTP id LAA25693;Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:08:22 -0500 (EST) >Received: from LISTSERV.SPC.EDU by LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP >release 1.8d) with spool id 60098 for BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU; Thu, >13 Feb 2003 11:08:21 -0500 >Received: from mailgate.spc.edu (root at mailgate.spc.edu [192.107.46.158]) by > listserv.spc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SPC-4.1-NORELAY) with ESMTP id >LAA25686 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:08:21 >-0500 (EST) >Received: from exchsen0a1rb.dfa.state.ny.us ([198.22.236.247]) by >mailgate.spc.edu (8.8.8/8.9.3/SPC-5.4-NORELAY) with ESMTP id LAA03789 > for ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:08:18 -0500 (EST) >Received: by dfa.state.ny.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id > ; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:08:07 -0500 >X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== >X-MSN-Trace: {6DB106DD-9453-4E21-8809-420C5A288CC7} >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) >Message-ID: ><6258238B31F8F041AEA921331091F0A6020FD824 at exchsen0a1md.dfa.state.ny.us> >Sender: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >Return-Path: owner-boc-l at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2003 16:21:36.0250 (UTC) >FILETIME=[FAD50DA0:01C2D37B] > >IN the record reviews: > >"Those lovably, furry, science fiction addled English hippy rockers >Hawkwind >have cas an impressively long shadow over contemporary rock, electronic, >and >ritual trance music since their early-70s heydya, when they regularly >pplayed free shows under highway bridges and outside the gates of European >rock festivals, scoring an improbable UK hit with "Silver Machine" >(featuring none other than Lemmy Kilmister, later of Motorhead, on lead >vocals). While the current cultural impact of the Hawks' music starships's >wanderings have been diluted over the past five years or so by squabbling >between rival alumni camps (one headed by guitarist Dave Brock, one by >saxman Nik Turner), there's no shortage of guitar-and-ynthesizer wielding >groups stepping forward to fill the blanga-sphere with choice >smash-and-bash-flavoroed trance and space rock." >Review goes on to say "yay", in more words, about ST37's "Down on Us" ad >Southkill's self-titled disc. On the latter: "Southkill cut right to the >heart of Ahwakwind's seminal sound, distilling the grind and groove of a >lockstep-tight guitar-and-drum tandem into a fine, potent musical brew, >equally suitable for meditation or marauding, depending on your mood." > >a lot of hyphens in this review. Odd. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 13 17:04:38 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:04:38 +0000 Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night In-Reply-To: <200210091555.LAA29063@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Nick Medford wrote: > Did any other listmembers attend the gig at the Islington Garage last > night? Probably not, as the place was only half-full- a criminal shame, as > this was a stupendous performance from Daevid Allen and his new cohorts. I made it to the Brighton one the night before. when they were supporting the Electric Prunes. I can't have got as much as you but it was also really extremely fabulous. I went with the lass who used to post here occasionally as Sherman and she was an immediate convert, so one more for the cause there I feel. > The U of E came on to a tape of circus-style music and indulged in a little > clowning before getting down to the business in hand. It was superb. No > doubt Mr Allen is a man of many parts but no New Age tweeness last night, > this was loud'n'filthy avant-garde psychedelic punk with the band playing > as if possessed. Josh Pollock is simply extraordinary, wrenching wild > sheets of noise from his guitar. If you've heard Peter Laughner's playing > on the early Pere Ubu singles, the guitar sound isn't a million miles away > from that, but if anything even more unhinged, teetering on the edge of > chaos but always *just* controlled enough- given the audacity of the > musical risks being taken, it was remarkable that the band so rarely broke > down into self-indulgence or incoherence. The drummer (whose name I didn't > catch) was similarly uninhibited, and credit has to go to bassist Michael > Clare (who looks oddly like the writer Will Self) for keeping it all > together, seemingly impervious to the lunacy all around him. I struggle to > give points of reference but if you can imagine Camembert-era Gong crossed > with the MC5 and the Bonzo Dog band (a stretch I know) you're in the > general area. There were several things about Josh Pollock worth mentioning. He managed to share stage focus with Daevid for a start, though Daevid wasn't completely all-out, possibly because he had a decent foil. Pollock took the stage in red silk pyjamas and slippers, the only concession rock being the taped-on cable point on the strap over his back. He played with I think not much more effects than phaser but made a comepletly ridiculous sound. He gurned ceaselessly and generally played so as to give the impression of being an utter Neanderthal who didn't understand his instrument but as Nick says it was consummately done, just enough control. Also, he addressed the crowd, even down to his vocals, through a megaphone at all points. I thought he was very good. Oh, and for one very intense song he suddenly produced a pair of drum-sticks, squinted blearily at them and proceeded to join the drummer (also very good) in blatting a rhythmically-precise seven shades out of the kit for some time. It reminded me very stromgly of the Korean drummers I nearly missed ICP for. But anyway. Daevid also played rather well, mind, including some lovely glissando (but we expect this). > What did they play? I can't give a complete setlist but most of the > forthcoming "Ugly Music For Monica" album was aired, as I was able to > confirm at home later with my newly acquired pre-release cd-r. This is > easily the best album the band have recorded, it doesn't *quite* capture > the full frenzy of the live attack- how could it- but it's the best thing > Daevid has done for many years and if you have any interest in the man, you > NEED this album. Other than that, some glorious and rarely-heard classics > were given the Errorization treatment- barnstorming renditions of "Hope for > Happiness", "Pot Head Pixies", "Pretty Miss Titty" and a superb rendition > of Kevin Ayers' "Clarence in Wonderland"- for the first 30 seconds or so I > thought this was going to be the Velvets' "Sister Ray"- yup we're talking > *radical* turbo-charging of the old faves here. That album, which I believe is now out (Andy G, are you carrying it?) is utterly superb and must be owned. It will give you a completely new idea of Daevid's muse because the band are actually contributing rather than just backing. In particular, it's nothing like the first UoE album which was much more a Daevid solo one. We got lots of that album, we also got `Pot Head Pixies' at double speed or thereabots, and a great `Stond Innocent Frankenstein', and a couple of bits off the first album, which were made up for the new sound with great effect. They even recharge their own songs. Um, `Involve Me' and `Money Doesn't Make It' I think. It was all great, and covered a fair old range from simple (well, not simple, but not pretentious) punk to space glissando and the two-drummer blitzout which wasn't anything of theirs I've so far heard. > Current Gong sax-man Theo Travis came on to add to the sonic squall at one > point, and it was by far the loosest and boldest playing I've heard from > him. But the absolute standout highlight was "Fohat Digs Holes in Space", > during which the venue took off and went into orbit around the Crab Nebula. > If you've never heard the U of E's take on this ancient Gong classic, you > must. You must! I didn't get that, but it is on a live CD-R they were selling and it is very much worth the listen. Gongwerx will never come closer to doom... Shocking, nonetheless, how much more defined the sound has become in the punk attack direction even since that was recoreded in 2000. > The band are due to play some dates in Sweden soon, but you shouldn't let a > little thing like a few thousand miles keep you from seeing this amazing > band. Especially as the University's financial situation would appear to be > parlous- why else would they be selling pre-release cd-r's of the new album > for a fiver each- this is a unique and quite brilliant band, and I implore > anyone and everyone to get behind them. Tell your friends, tell your > enemies, tell all the people you do not know. Everything this man says is true. I have seen it. Yours, Jon ObCD: Harvey Bainbridge - _Live 2000_ -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 13 17:18:54 2003 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:18:54 +0000 Subject: Studio Album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Chris Raymond wrote: > I copied this from MC: > ------------- > FUTURE PLANS: Our current project is ? Destruction of The Death Generator? > which is being written in conjunction with Michael Moorcock. We have been > working in conjunction with both Mike Moorcock and Mike Butterworth, and we > are now in the process of rehearsing the material, which will hopefully be > recorded in the spring. Following rehearsals of the stage show, the band > will tour late summer. The line up will contain the current nucleus, coupled > with some past members who have featured in the band during the past 30 > years, similar to the highly successful Y2k Hawkestra event at the Brixton > Academy. We are also currently reviewing plans to do another tour of > Australia & New Zealand, maybe later in the year...... > --------------- Colin Allen will of course be best placed to answer this, but that announcement on MC predates Nik's attempt at a second Hawkestra and I think the involving of old members odea has gone by the bye now. Half of them were supposed to be suing for royalties not so long ago if we believe hawkethos, after all, which I'm not saying we do. But Harvey and Simon seem to be keeping their distance at the moment. > So does this mean that here is a studio album that has already been recorded > and about to be released, and then the Death Generator to be released later > in 2003? Sorry to sound unhappy, but I have gotten fat, old and grey since > In your Area was released. Finally, I hope that when there is a new album to > buy, that it will available in stores instead of just by mailorder. That last will definitely be down to Colin but I don't think we can criticise him if he's unable to cut into the big distributors' networks. If the band wanted that they shouldn't have fired Doug Smith; whatever else it got them in tems of artistic freedom, it cost them that. I believe, and would love to be corrected, that the new album which was recently said to be finished, is going to be what's left of the Death Generator concept album from 1998, but since _Spacebrock_ and _Family Tree_ emerged in that time I don't suppose much material existed until quite recently. I await its final emergence, once artwork, mastering, mixing, pressing and finally distribution have finally been sorted out, with very little idea of what to expect because everything that we've seen other than `Strange Fruit' rather relied in Ron on vocals... Whatever it is it will be unexpected. Yours, Jon -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 13 17:34:03 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:34:03 -0000 Subject: Studio Album Message-ID: Hi Jon, Replies are in the text. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Studio Album On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Chris Raymond wrote: > I copied this from MC: > ------------- > FUTURE PLANS: Our current project is ' Destruction of The Death Generator' > which is being written in conjunction with Michael Moorcock. We have been > working in conjunction with both Mike Moorcock and Mike Butterworth, and we > are now in the process of rehearsing the material, which will hopefully be > recorded in the spring. Following rehearsals of the stage show, the band > will tour late summer. The line up will contain the current nucleus, coupled > with some past members who have featured in the band during the past 30 > years, similar to the highly successful Y2k Hawkestra event at the Brixton > Academy. We are also currently reviewing plans to do another tour of > Australia & New Zealand, maybe later in the year...... > --------------- Colin Allen will of course be best placed to answer this, but that announcement on MC predates Nik's attempt at a second Hawkestra and I think the involving of old members odea has gone by the bye now. Half of them were supposed to be suing for royalties not so long ago if we believe hawkethos, after all, which I'm not saying we do. But Harvey and Simon seem to be keeping their distance at the moment. Hawkethos was not believeable:). Harvey is doing solo work at the moment (I spoke to him a couple of days ago and he is working on new material). Simon's absence from the tour was for real and valid reasons; he will be on the album and, all being well, back on stage soon. I do not think that anything on the scale of Hawkwestra will happen but there may well be a few surprises. > So does this mean that here is a studio album that has already been recorded > and about to be released, and then the Death Generator to be released later > in 2003? Sorry to sound unhappy, but I have gotten fat, old and grey since > In your Area was released. Finally, I hope that when there is a new album to > buy, that it will available in stores instead of just by mailorder. That last will definitely be down to Colin but I don't think we can criticise him if he's unable to cut into the big distributors' networks. If the band wanted that they shouldn't have fired Doug Smith; whatever else it got them in tems of artistic freedom, it cost them that. I believe, and would love to be corrected, that the new album which was recently said to be finished, is going to be what's left of the Death Generator concept album from 1998, but since _Spacebrock_ and _Family Tree_ emerged in that time I don't suppose much material existed until quite recently. I await its final emergence, once artwork, mastering, mixing, pressing and finally distribution have finally been sorted out, with very little idea of what to expect because everything that we've seen other than `Strange Fruit' rather relied in Ron on vocals... Whatever it is it will be unexpected. Unexpected and good:). Yours, Jon -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 13 17:37:33 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:37:33 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: Touring info that's phat! Message-ID: Check out cellsum.com for tour dates for The Brain Surgeons (well, yeah) AS WELL AS the X Brothers! Bouchard Dunaway Smith! and there's other news in Cellsumland. So, in the words of the Moody Blues, "Go Now!" Kasim From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Feb 13 20:03:53 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:03:53 +0000 Subject: OFF: HW: Re: Stop the World going GM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's very closely related Steve, Were being flooded with US Junk suck as f104g Starfighters (Captain Lockheed - Bob Calvert), McDonalds (Uncle Sam's on Mars) and now the Motown Railway Locomotives which are oerated by the USA owned EWS (English Welsh & Scottish Railway). Commemts Gentlemen & Lady please........ On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 07:10, Mr Youles wrote: > I don't think you should be sending this stuff to Hawkwind email > lists. From youless at LVCM.COM Thu Feb 13 21:55:17 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:55:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: HW: Re: Stop the World going GM Message-ID: Ben I deliberately emailed you offlist to say that, I didn't want to embarrass you publicly. I do not appreciate you then posting a private comment of mine onlist. Please do not ever do that again. Steve ------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:03:53 +0000, Ben Fagin wrote: >It's very closely related Steve, Were being flooded with US Junk suck as f104g >Starfighters (Captain Lockheed - Bob Calvert), McDonalds (Uncle Sam's on >Mars) and now the Motown Railway Locomotives which are oerated by the USA >owned EWS (English Welsh & Scottish Railway). > >Commemts Gentlemen & Lady please........ > >On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 07:10, Mr Youles wrote: > >> I don't think you should be sending this stuff to Hawkwind email >> lists. From youless at LVCM.COM Thu Feb 13 22:53:15 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:53:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ship of Fools new album Message-ID: Hi I have this album ("Let's Get This Mother Outta Here"), there's a sticker on it that says "Digitally remixed, re-edited and remastered psychedelica." Tracklist follows: 1. Diesel Spaceship 2. L=SD2 3. Where is here 4. First Light 5. In The Wake Of 6. From Time 7. Passage By Night 8. Western Lands 9. Guidance Is Internal There is also a video CD-ROM track for L=SD2 (i.e. L = SD squared). No sleeve notes. I had only ever heard 1 track by this band. on Aural Innovations, and it stood out as being excellent. This is a great album, the best thing I've heard for at least a year. It starts off with Church-of-Hawkwind era synths, Simon House-esque keyboards, voice samples (it's otherwise instrumental), and a hypnotic groove; but it is not at all derivative of HW, IMHO.... The overall sound is more clean-cut, but retaining tons of atmospherics, and they are less guitarcentric than Hawkwind. Although L=SD2 has a very Brockesque rhythm guitar, and in general is quite reminiscent of HW circa Alien4. The former sentiment also goes for 'From Time' which has a monstrous, processed guitar upfront. "Not derivative", eh? I think it's to do with the high quality of the compositions & arrangements - this material stands up on its own merits. Having said that, I hear some other influences apart from HW. 'First Light' has a touch of Zeppelin about it and something else, more mainstream, that I can't quite put my finger on. Every now and then they throw some sort of early 80's inflections, too but these are momentary and perhaps exist only in the eye of the beholder. Maybe a smattering of Chrome / Helios Creed there, too. The worst thing about this band is their name. I mean, 'Ship of Fools' is actually a pretty decent moniker, but have you ever tried searching for that phrase on Google?! Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:07:57 +0000, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Alisa wrote: > >> there is a new album on Peaceville coming soon. Anyone knows are they >> reunited? > > Wouldn't mind some information on this myself, if anyone's got >any. I read somewhere that this new one (_Get This Mother Outta Here_ if I >have that right) is a best of. This strikes me as odd as I believe you can >squeeze both their actual albums onto a single CD. But I guess there were >singles and compilation tracks which might mean you could get a different >tracklisting with less filler in it? I don't know. Anyone do? Yours, > Jon > >-- >"I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine >law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient >to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the >delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. > > (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Feb 13 23:18:45 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 04:18:45 +0000 Subject: OFF: HW: Re: Stop the World going GM In-Reply-To: <200302140255.VAA27735@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Ok No Probs, but the Email was totally relevant and completely on topic. Best Regards Ben Please note that this post started as an OFF: post !!!!!! On Friday 14 Feb 2003 02:55, you wrote: > Ben > > I deliberately emailed you offlist to say that, I didn't want to embarrass > you publicly. I do not appreciate you then posting a private comment of > mine onlist. Please do not ever do that again. > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------ > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:03:53 +0000, Ben Fagin > > wrote: > >It's very closely related Steve, Were being flooded with US Junk suck as > > f104g > > >Starfighters (Captain Lockheed - Bob Calvert), McDonalds (Uncle Sam's on > >Mars) and now the Motown Railway Locomotives which are oerated by the USA > >owned EWS (English Welsh & Scottish Railway). > > > >Commemts Gentlemen & Lady please........ > > > >On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 07:10, Mr Youles wrote: > >> I don't think you should be sending this stuff to Hawkwind email > >> lists. From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Feb 14 08:00:35 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:00:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ship of Fools new album Message-ID: SY sez... > I have this album ("Let's Get This Mother Outta Here"), > > 1. Diesel Spaceship > 2. L=SD2 > 3. Where is here > 4. First Light > 5. In The Wake Of > 6. From Time > 7. Passage By Night > 8. Western Lands > 9. Guidance Is Internal Yeah, nothing on here that wasn't already on the 2 full- length albums. The only other track I know of (but have never heard) is "Guidance...Breakdown" (or something similar) from a 3-track vinyl EP...and I'm not sure that it isn't even a reprise thing/alternate version of Track 9 here (which also appears on same). > There is also a video CD-ROM track for L=SD2 (i.e. L = SD > squared). Except that this is new though, of course. I think. Grakkl (FAA) From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Feb 14 08:16:03 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:16:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night Message-ID: JJ reveals... > Josh Pollock is simply extraordinary, wrenching wild > sheets of noise from his guitar. Yes, and now it's interesting that his unique discordant guitar sound is now officially part of Gong as well, as it's been announced that he's now joined them also. > The drummer (whose name I didn't catch) was similarly > uninhibited If it was a really young-looking (American) guy, that would be Jason Mills, but they often meet up any drummer of Allen's acquaintance that happens to be in the neighborhood of where they're playing. Pat Thomas of Mushroom seems only to be on the studio works and isn't available to tour with the group. > There were several things about Josh Pollock worth mentioning. > He gurned ceaselessly and generally played so as to give the > impression of being an utter Neanderthal who didn't understand > his instrument I think this is true! Because I took notice of his guitar and I was certain that he uses a righty-guitar flipped upside down (he is, of course, then left-handed)...which isn't so unusual, but then I was sure that the strings were not reordered to put the high ones on the bottom where they should be. This *should* make the thing completely unplayable unless for some reason you learned growing up to play the thing completely bassackward. So I guess there's no wonder that Pollock has such a peculiar sound. :) Um...what's "gurned"? Another Britslang term, or a typo? > But the absolute standout highlight was "Fohat Digs > Holes in Space", during which the venue took off and > went into orbit around the Crab Nebula. Are they still playing it at half speed? What I call "Slohat"? I dunno...it was alright, but that tune to me is something that shouldn't really fooled with so much...I mean it's already nearly a perfect song, it doesn't really cry out for any further manipulation. Grakkl (FAA) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 14 07:33:39 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:33:39 EDT Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 14 Feb 2003 at 14:16, Henderson Keith wrote: > I think this is true! Because I took notice of his guitar and I > was certain that he uses a righty-guitar flipped upside down (he > is, of course, then left-handed)...which isn't so unusual, but > then I was sure that the strings were not reordered to put the high > ones on the bottom where they should be. This *should* make the thing > completely unplayable unless for some reason you learned growing up to > play the thing completely bassackward. So I guess there's no wonder > that Pollock has such a peculiar sound. :) > Yeah, well Albert King was playing like that about 60 years ago, and countless other lefties have also done it. Not a big deal at all... theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 14 10:15:12 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:15:12 GMT Subject: The neverending saga of the Bikeshow trades In-Reply-To: sputnikgaz 's message of Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:50:22 -0000 Message-ID: re this trade with 15 of you good folks of about a year ago. I'd just said that I'd finally contact folks to complete this trade. I realise it's been on hold for rather a long time through dead computers and illness. Unfortunately I've now been kicked out of my flat as my landlord wants it back. This inevitably means another couple of months hiatus as my worldly goods and chattels (of which you only realise how much there is and how much it weighs when this happens) must be moved to a new location. Assuming no computer breakage while this happens, I promise I'll get back and settle these trades in April. On the plus side, those who didn't have anything to trade will almost certainly have stuff I don't by now, so I'll collect your lists at that time. Apologies yet again... -- An Almost Homeless Friend of Fernando Poo From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Feb 14 09:24:44 2003 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:24:44 EST Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night Message-ID: In a message dated 2/14/2003 8:18:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, keith.henderson at PSI.CH writes: << Josh Pollock is simply extraordinary, wrenching wild > sheets of noise from his guitar. <> Also joining Gong are Kawabata Makoto (guitar) and Cotton Casino (synths) both from Acid Mothers Temple. Should be pretty wild! Bill From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Feb 14 17:46:28 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:46:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:24:44 EST, Bill Stewart wrote: >In a message dated 2/14/2003 8:18:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, >keith.henderson at PSI.CH writes: > ><< Josh Pollock is simply extraordinary, wrenching wild > > sheets of noise from his guitar. > > < < <> > >Also joining Gong are Kawabata Makoto (guitar) and Cotton Casino (synths) >both from Acid Mothers Temple. Should be pretty wild! > >Bill Well I'll be pixillated!! 'Tis true: check out www.planetgong.co.uk This latest Gong band is to be called You'n'Gong (pun on 'young Gong' I assume) which is a rather clumsy name IMHO but who cares about that, it's got the potential to be something incredible. The thought of Josh Pollock and Kawabata Makoto playing together is mindboggling. Will the universe collapse in on itself? Going back to 'Fohat..', yes the U of E play it slowed down, but this is one of those occasions where slowing down gives double the intensity. To wit, whereas the rhythm on the original version goes something like this: dum-diddle-dum-diddle-dum-diddle-dum, the U of E revamp goes more like this: *DUMMM!!!*- di...ddle-*DUMMM!!!*-di...ddle-*DUMMM!!!* so you can see that's much better. Nick From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Feb 14 18:26:56 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:26:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night Message-ID: A couple of points I failed to address: On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:16:03 +0100, Henderson Keith wrote: >> The drummer (whose name I didn't catch) was similarly >> uninhibited > >If it was a really young-looking (American) guy, that would >be Jason Mills, No it turns out it was someone called Warren Heugel, who also looked quite young to me, and was probably American too. >Um...what's "gurned"? Another Britslang term, or a typo? Gurning is the noble art of face contortion. See: http://www.quinion.com/words/weirdwords/ww-gur1.htm The word has gained currency with the rise of the rave scene, as trance- dancing folk are often seen to gurn wildly in their abandon, particularly when Ecstasy is involved. Nick From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Feb 14 18:45:27 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:45:27 -0500 Subject: OFF: HW: Re: Stop the World going GM Message-ID: Yes, it's terrible when prople post private comments onlist. On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:55:17 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: >Ben > >I deliberately emailed you offlist to say that, I didn't want to embarrass >you publicly. I do not appreciate you then posting a private comment of >mine onlist. Please do not ever do that again. > >Steve > > From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Feb 14 19:20:14 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:20:14 -0500 Subject: HW: Bedouin Mini-Tour Message-ID: Hi Folks - a few Bedouin Dates to kick off the year...... Thursday February 20th (AS 'ACE OF SPADES') The Rigger 35 Marsh Parade Newcastle-Under-Lyme TEL: 01782-616602 Band onstage (c) 9.30pm ALL DAY GIG - phone for details Tickets ?4.00 ------------------------------ Friday February 21st (BEDOUIN set) The Rigger 35 Marsh Parade Newcastle-Under-Lyme TEL: 01782-616602 Band onstage (c) 9.30pm ALL DAY GIG - phone for details Tickets ?4.00 ------------------------------ Friday February 28th Marrs Bar 12 Pierpont Street Worcester TEL: 01905-613336 Doors 7.30pm Tickets ?5.00 ------------------------------ Saturday March 1st Scallys Carlton Street Western-Super-Mare TEL: 01905-613336 Doors 7.30pm Tickets ?3.00 ------------------------------ Sunday March 2nd Concorde 2 2 Madeira Drive Brighton TEL: 01273 772770 / 01273 325440 SCRAP RECORDS 'ALLDAYER' Doors 4.00pm Gig Runs Until Midnight Tickets ?6.00 ------------------------------ From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Fri Feb 14 20:46:51 2003 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:46:51 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: Re: Stop the World going GM Message-ID: "prople post private" -- say THAT five times fast. :-) Guido Rik wrote: >Yes, it's terrible when prople post private comments onlist. > >On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:55:17 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: > > > >>Ben >> >>I deliberately emailed you offlist to say that, I didn't want to embarrass >>you publicly. I do not appreciate you then posting a private comment of >>mine onlist. Please do not ever do that again. >> >>Steve >> >> >> >> > > > From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Feb 14 21:10:08 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:10:08 +0000 Subject: OFF: HW: Re: Stop the World going GM In-Reply-To: <3E4D9C0B.60905@attbi.com> Message-ID: So Hang on a minute, Steve was worried that I might be Embarrased (which has never been the case) so Emailed me offlist, then complained that I might have Embarrassed Myself. Am I getting this Right? On Saturday 15 Feb 2003 01:46, you wrote: > "prople post private" -- say THAT five times fast. :-) > > Guido > > Rik wrote: > >Yes, it's terrible when prople post private comments onlist. > > > >On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:55:17 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: > >>Ben > >> > >>I deliberately emailed you offlist to say that, I didn't want to > >> embarrass you publicly. I do not appreciate you then posting a private > >> comment of mine onlist. Please do not ever do that again. > >> > >>Steve From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Feb 15 09:13:16 2003 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:13:16 -0500 Subject: BOC:David Roter Message-ID: Please keep David Roter, BOC writer and friend, in your thoughts. He is in serious condition following complications from a Bone Marrow transplant. Thanks, Al From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Feb 14 21:35:54 2003 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:35:54 EST Subject: OFF:NEKTAR Message-ID: Nektar German Festival appearnce confirmed!! Nektar are now confirmed as one of the headlining acts at the 2003 Burg Herzberg Open Air Festival in Germany. The festival runs from July 17th - 2oth 2003 and Nektar are scheduled to play at 9pm on Saturday 19th July. The 2003 festival will be the last for this legendary event with NEKTAR joining a superb line-up that will include among others: Caravan, Damo Suzuki Network, Fairport Convention, Wishbone Ash, Birth Control, Epitaph, Embryo and Man This concert is the first confirmation of a short series of shows planned for July which will include a concert in London and further concerts in Germany. From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Feb 15 13:25:51 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:25:51 +0000 Subject: OFF: Simple Minds/Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: boc-l, I just got the "Real to Real Cacophony" collection by Simple Minds in the cheap bin and it's great. I swear early Simple Minds was Legendary Pink Dots in disguise. Anyone care to recommend any albums. Favorite tracks are "Naked Eye", "Carnival (Shelter In A Suitcase)" and "Calling Your Name". Not only that, but the SM track "Premonition" could be the LPD track "Premonition 13" and "Film Theme" could be "Film Of The Book" if you were to compare title and New Wave atmospherics. Anyway, I wonder what albums the tracks on "RtRC" were taken from. They are all dated 1982 and all produced by John Leckie (ov Stone Roses fame) (Plus Jim Kerr and Edward Ka-Spel are lookalikes. However, I always started confusing Simply Red with Simple Minds on MTV when "Alive And Kicking" was a big hit because I hated it and hated Simply Red. But everything before that was okay. The "Breakfast Club" thing was the last good single they had. What was it called again? Sexeee.... :) regards, Christian (A Crap Goth) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Feb 15 13:32:01 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:32:01 +0000 Subject: OFF: "Starman" Message-ID: Just got the latest issue of "Uncut", which is a David Bowie special. Great "Starman" covers CD included has Blondie doing a soaring and sexy version of "Heroes", with Robert Fripp on guitar, and Christian Death doing "Panic In Detroit" and several other bands doing Bowie covers as well. The Duran Duran version of "Fame" is pretty nostalgic, I remember it pretty well, the sound is just so nostalgic, that strangely artificial 1981 studio sound reminding me of my childhood and early teens as a Duran Duran fan. The Sigue Sigue Sputnik track is "Rebel Rebel"... and of course Christian Death do a great "Panic In Detroit". Get it, it's recommended. Chr. (A Crap Goth) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Feb 15 15:18:37 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:18:37 -0500 Subject: HW: More Bedouin Bates........ Message-ID: BEDOUIN GIG STOP-PRESS - NEW DATES ADDED *BEDOUIN* Thursday March 13th Dingwalls Camden Lock LONDON 020-7267-1577 ---------------- *ACE OF SPADES* April 4th Rockers Live Bridge Street TAUNTON Somerset 01823-323818 From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Feb 15 15:42:56 2003 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:42:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: HW: Re: Stop the World going GM Message-ID: Whoops...... a tip of the slongue? On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:46:51 -0700, Guido Vacano wrote: >"prople post private" -- say THAT five times fast. :-) > From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Sat Feb 15 15:50:45 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:50:45 -0500 Subject: BOC:David Roter Message-ID: > Please keep David Roter, BOC writer and friend, in your thoughts. He is in serious condition following complications from a Bone Marrow transplant. Thanks, > Al Please keep us posted, I have always liked his work. I don't know much about him, but will definitely be pulling for his recovery... From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 15 16:19:41 2003 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 21:19:41 -0000 Subject: OFF: Simple Minds/Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: That SM track was "Don't you forget about me". Simple Minds - a Scottish band, started well okay in mid eighties, lost it big time in 90's. Superb live act, saw them a number of times. I used to be in a band with one of their former drummers and their keyboard player's brother works with me. Two tenuous Hawkwind/Simple Minds links for you: Simple Minds had a couple of their early LPs produced by Steve Hillage who as you all know played with Gong. Mr Hillage produced Nik Turners's Xitintoday....as you know, Nik former Hawkwind member. Glissando guitar: yep, the old gliss guitar connection. Guitar technique picked up by Daevid Allen (of Gong) from, I think - Syd Barratt, said technique passed to Steve Hillage in the early 70's, who passed it to Charlie Burchill in the early eighties (nearly fell over at a Simple Minds gig when Charlie started with the "gliss"). Back to Daevid Allen, Daevid and co supported Hawkwind in the early nineties and the gliss baton passed to Dave Brock. There's bound to be more.... Dave -----Original Message----- From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 15 February 2003 18:31 Subject: OFF: Simple Minds/Legendary Pink Dots >boc-l, >I just got the "Real to Real Cacophony" collection by >Simple Minds in the cheap bin and it's great. I swear >early Simple Minds was Legendary Pink Dots in >disguise. Anyone care to recommend any albums. >Favorite tracks are "Naked Eye", "Carnival (Shelter In >A Suitcase)" and "Calling Your Name". > >Not only that, but the SM track "Premonition" could be >the LPD track "Premonition 13" and "Film Theme" could >be "Film Of The Book" if you were to compare title and >New Wave atmospherics. > >Anyway, I wonder what albums the tracks on "RtRC" were >taken from. They are all dated 1982 and all produced >by John Leckie (ov Stone Roses fame) > >(Plus Jim Kerr and Edward Ka-Spel are lookalikes. >However, I always started confusing Simply Red with >Simple Minds on MTV when "Alive And Kicking" was a big >hit because I hated it and hated Simply Red. But >everything before that was okay. The "Breakfast Club" >thing was the last good single they had. What was it >called again? Sexeee.... :) > >regards, >Christian >(A Crap Goth) > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com > From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sun Feb 16 06:32:39 2003 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:32:39 -0000 Subject: HW: Mudhoney & Earthlab Message-ID: Hi Folks might like to know that this month's Mojo magazine comes with a free CD featuring 26 'punk' bands, amongst which is Mudhoney's version of Urban Guerilla from a John Peel session sometime last year. Not a bad CD all round, as it happens - preceding track is the Only Ones' wonderful 'Another Girl, Another Planet'. For BOC-ers, the mag also includes a feature on the making of the Clash's 'Give 'Em Enough Rope' which was, of course, produced by Sandy Pearlman. Also, I noticed in the Guardian's gig guide for the following week that a band called Earthlab are playing Manchester Life Cafe on Fri 21st. They're described as featuring members of Hawkwind, Angelwitch (!) & Sonic Boom's Spectrum. Anyone know anything about this lot &, particularly, who the ex-HWer(s) is/are? Cheers Dave From Ted_Blair at MSN.COM Sun Feb 16 10:58:40 2003 From: Ted_Blair at MSN.COM (Ted Blair) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:58:40 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Tribute - double CD Message-ID: BOC-L Digest - 15 Feb 2003 to 16 Feb 2003 (#2003-57)Just heard about this: HAWKWIND TRIBUTE 'A Tribute To Hawkwind' double CD is to be issued by Godreah records in July. Among those artists to be included are Tim Blake, Harvey Bainbridge, Alan Davey, the Huw Lloyd Langton Group, Acidmotherstemple, Spirits Burning, Acid King, Spacehead, Amorphis and the Meads Of Asphodel. from a daily email that I get from Total Rock (www.totalrock.com). From hawkswede at TELIA.COM Sun Feb 16 12:44:16 2003 From: hawkswede at TELIA.COM (Hawkswede) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:44:16 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Tribute - double CD Message-ID: Great news! Get further info from http://www.live4metal.com/news.htm Hawkswede ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Blair" To: Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Hawkwind Tribute - double CD BOC-L Digest - 15 Feb 2003 to 16 Feb 2003 (#2003-57)Just heard about this: HAWKWIND TRIBUTE 'A Tribute To Hawkwind' double CD is to be issued by Godreah records in July. Among those artists to be included are Tim Blake, Harvey Bainbridge, Alan Davey, the Huw Lloyd Langton Group, Acidmotherstemple, Spirits Burning, Acid King, Spacehead, Amorphis and the Meads Of Asphodel. from a daily email that I get from Total Rock (www.totalrock.com). From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Feb 16 14:46:53 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:46:53 -0000 Subject: HW: Warrior on the Edge of Time Message-ID: I'm sure I read on this list that the original CD version of this is particularly sought after by HW collectors. I know where there's one for sale - and the seller has agreed to hang onto it for a week or so for anyone on BOC-L who'd want it. Drop me a line if you're interested, or let me know off list if I'm thinking of the wrong album. Label, number etc are all available - I just need to chase him to send them to me. Cheers, Rich. From youless at LVCM.COM Sun Feb 16 16:50:12 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, particularly: 1) How many years did you spend away from HW? 2) When did you leave and when did you come back? 3) What made you leave? 3) What made you come back? The answers in my case would be 1) 15 years 2) 1982 - 1997 3) I wasn't enjoying the new stuff they were doing, and 4) I went to a gig they played near my house and got sucked back in! Steve From dplaw at IC24.NET Sun Feb 16 18:18:13 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:18:13 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: in answer to your questions - 1 - approx 12 years 2 - 1987 - 1999, although did go to see them in 1992 + thought they were really boring! 3 - just got a bit tierd of them i guess 4 - finding loads of h/w sites on the web regards dave www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Sun Feb 16 19:19:46 2003 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:19:46 -0500 Subject: OFF: Emagic Logic troubles Message-ID: This is way off topic and I apologize for annoying the list, but is anyone out there using Emagic Logic for sequencing? I am using Logic Platinum and trying to get my Korg MS2000 set up and I absolutely cannot get it to change programs... any idea what the program change parameter ought to be? Or even where to find out? I've spent most of today wrestling with it and can't figure out a damn thing no matter how many texts I consult. I hate MIDI! John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Feb 16 19:32:27 2003 From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (Mark Storer) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:32:27 -0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Answers 1) 0 2) I didn't 3) Nothing 4) Ditto Ho! Ho! Ho! Mark From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Feb 16 21:05:14 2003 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:05:14 -0500 Subject: BOC:David Roter In-Reply-To: <200302140418.45289.vulcanfoundry@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Please keep David Roter, BOC writer and friend, in your thoughts today. He is in very serious condition following complication from a Bone Marrow transplant. Thanks, Al From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Feb 16 21:07:57 2003 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:07:57 -0500 Subject: BOC:David Roter In-Reply-To: <003a01c2d533$fb93c8d0$0202a8c0@aapold> Message-ID: On 2/15/03 3:50 PM, "Andrew Apold" wrote: > Please keep us posted, I have always liked his work. I don't know much > about him, but will definitely be pulling for his recovery... Unfortunately, David passed away today at 2PM. He was 56 years old. We will have to finish his new album without him but it will come out. All his friends want to help. Al From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Feb 16 21:44:28 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:44:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: >I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, >particularly: > >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? >3) What made you leave? >4) What made you come back? 1. About 7 years 2. 1990-1997 3. Didn't like Space Bandits at all- the album has gone up in my estimation since, although I'd still rate it as their weakest studio effort. In general, thought the quality had been falling off for a while (Xenon Codex wasn't that great either). Basically I thought they were washed up. 4. Had a brief renewal of interest in about '94 when I ran across "It Is The Business..." in a store and decided to take a chance on it. Quite liked it but not enough for a full return to to the Church of HW. Then in about '97 I discovered quite unexpectedly that a friend of mine was a huge HW fan, also lapsed. This led us to dust off all the old vinyl and I was reminded just how great they were. The Internet did the rest- remember looking at the old Welcome To The Future site for the first time and thinking "Who the hell is Ron Tree??" Bought some of the 90s material, suitably impressed by Electric Tepee and Palace Springs. Finally saw them again at Croydon in '99 and whenever I've had the chance since. Nick ObAlbum: Hendrix- 'Band of Gypsies' From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Sun Feb 16 23:04:26 2003 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (Richard Manny) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:04:26 -0500 Subject: BOC:David Roter Message-ID: I am sorry. Please extend my condolences to his family just as I extend them to you, his friends. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "albert bouchard" To: Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:07 PM Subject: Re: BOC:David Roter > On 2/15/03 3:50 PM, "Andrew Apold" wrote: > > > Please keep us posted, I have always liked his work. I don't know much > > about him, but will definitely be pulling for his recovery... > > Unfortunately, David passed away today at 2PM. He was 56 years old. We will > have to finish his new album without him but it will come out. All his > friends want to help. > Al > From Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 16 23:55:10 2003 From: Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM (Dale K. Ford) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:55:10 EST Subject: BOC:David Roter Message-ID: My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family. Dale From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Mon Feb 17 01:35:29 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:35:29 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: <200302170244.VAA10521@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: > >I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go > >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning > >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, > >particularly: > > 1) How many years did you spend away from HW? No more than a few months at a time. 2) When did you leave and when did you come back? Twice 1n 1994, once in 1995 and maybe 1996. 3) What made you leave? Persuasion & Pressure from certain people. 4) What made you come back? The Stupidity of the Media. Note: I used to sell all my records to The Record & Tape Exchange in Notting Hill Gate, then buy the back soon after. From coral at APORT.RU Mon Feb 17 02:36:42 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:36:42 +0300 Subject: OFF: Emagic Logic troubles Message-ID: > This is way off topic and I apolog ize for annoying the list, but is anyone > out there using Emagic Logic for sequencing? I am using Logic Platinum and > trying to get my Korg MS2000 set up and I absolutely cannot get it to change > programs... any idea what the program change parameter ought to be? Or even > where to find out? I've spent most of today wrestling with it and can't > figure out a damn thing no matter how many texts I consult. I hate MIDI! I hate too. Use this thing: http://www.btinternet.com/~daz.richards/ MS2000 is a lovely synth isn't it? :) Alisa From admin at SHROPS.NET Mon Feb 17 02:43:37 2003 From: admin at SHROPS.NET (OS-NET) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:43:37 -0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Hi All Answers to Sabbaticals 1 - None (Never went away, been a fan since 1970) 2 - Did not have to come back, was always there 3 - Nothing 4 - Liked everything so always stayed. On a similar note, we have just finished a UK Tour over the last 6 months and we have had 2 chapes from the London Area come to every gig. They did this last year too. They are now infamous throughout the Budgie Camp and Fan Base. Pete Budgie Promotions www.budgie.uk.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:44 AM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: > > >I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go > >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning > >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, > >particularly: > > > >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? > >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? > >3) What made you leave? > >4) What made you come back? > > 1. About 7 years > > 2. 1990-1997 > > 3. Didn't like Space Bandits at all- the album has gone up in my estimation > since, although I'd still rate it as their weakest studio effort. In > general, thought the quality had been falling off for a while (Xenon Codex > wasn't that great either). Basically I thought they were washed up. > > 4. Had a brief renewal of interest in about '94 when I ran across "It Is > The Business..." in a store and decided to take a chance on it. Quite liked > it but not enough for a full return to to the Church of HW. Then in > about '97 I discovered quite unexpectedly that a friend of mine was a huge > HW fan, also lapsed. This led us to dust off all the old vinyl and I was > reminded just how great they were. The Internet did the rest- remember > looking at the old Welcome To The Future site for the first time and > thinking "Who the hell is Ron Tree??" Bought some of the 90s material, > suitably impressed by Electric Tepee and Palace Springs. Finally saw them > again at Croydon in '99 and whenever I've had the chance since. > > Nick > > ObAlbum: Hendrix- 'Band of Gypsies' From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 17 04:55:10 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:25:10 +1030 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Honestly - never been a heretic (kidding). Been a fan since 88 or 89 even tho it annoyed my (now) ex wife to no end. She doesn't like hawkwind music or the doors. Most music I like come to think of it.... Aren't I goooooooooooooood!!! ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Youles" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:20 AM Subject: HW: Sabbaticals > I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go > off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning > to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, > particularly: > > 1) How many years did you spend away from HW? > 2) When did you leave and when did you come back? > 3) What made you leave? > 3) What made you come back? > > The answers in my case would be 1) 15 years 2) 1982 - 1997 3) I wasn't > enjoying the new stuff they were doing, and 4) I went to a gig they played > near my house and got sucked back in! > > > Steve From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 17 05:00:03 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:30:03 +1030 Subject: OFF: Emagic Logic troubles Message-ID: I've used the gold and now have silver version. But I've never had any success with midi (never tried very hard either) I really need to learn tho because it would make live performances so much easier (assuming everything is operating - computers etc-whatever) When you suss it can you share the knowledge with me? Some things I learn best on my own - this is one where I need help big time - a real learning curve. ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Majka" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: OFF: Emagic Logic troubles > This is way off topic and I apologize for annoying the list, but is anyone > out there using Emagic Logic for sequencing? I am using Logic Platinum and > trying to get my Korg MS2000 set up and I absolutely cannot get it to change > programs... any idea what the program change parameter ought to be? Or even > where to find out? I've spent most of today wrestling with it and can't > figure out a damn thing no matter how many texts I consult. I hate MIDI! > John Majka > jmajka2 at comcast.net > From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Mon Feb 17 05:16:02 2003 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:16:02 +0100 Subject: hawkwind tribute, lemmy book etc Message-ID: interesting - big names in that context! would sure wish it'd include mot?rhead doing a hawk number! after all, they included silver machine in their early sets. not to mention motorhead, the watcher and lost johnny that all made their way into mot?rhead's back catalogue! and to those of you who still haven't read 'white line fever' - go buy! not _that_ much we haven't all read in lemmy interviews on the hawkwind topic, but worth it alone for the "spanky! spanky! spanky!"-part (and _that_ one's hawkwind related!) :-) ketil svendsen, bergen, norway > > Subject: Hawkwind Tribute - double CD > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:58:40 -0000 > From: Ted Blair > > BOC-L Digest - 15 Feb 2003 to 16 Feb 2003 (#2003-57)Just heard about this: > > HAWKWIND TRIBUTE > 'A Tribute To Hawkwind' double CD is to be issued by Godreah records in July. Among those artists to be included are Tim Blake, Harvey Bainbridge, Alan Davey, the Huw Lloyd Langton Group, Acidmotherstemple, Spirits Burning, Acid King, Spacehead, Amorphis and the Meads Of Asphodel. From dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Feb 17 06:14:28 2003 From: dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK (Dr _ Technical) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:14:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: 1) 20 years (!!) 2) 1982 - 2002 3) Wine, women and (different) songs 4) Found websites etc, went to see them in December and now listen to nothing else. I've got a lot of albums to buy and catch up on now. Perhaps someone could recommend the essentials from the last 20 years. I've recently bought Space Bandits and am not 100% keen on it. >I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, >particularly: > >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? >3) What made you leave? >3) What made you come back? > >The answers in my case would be 1) 15 years 2) 1982 - 1997 3) I wasn't >enjoying the new stuff they were doing, and 4) I went to a gig they played >near my house and got sucked back in! > > >Steve From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 17 06:22:57 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:22:57 +0800 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Hi all I've been having a bit of a problem posting things on here. For some bizarre reason they are being rejected. I am wondering if it may be the E-mail program I've been using over the past week IncrediMail Xe, & so I'm duplicating what I wrote on old faithful here, Outlook Express. If this goes through, then I know where the problem lies. I've always been a fan as well. There was occasions when their albums were a bit lamer than usual, but (just like the TV show Doctor Who, another favourite of mine which had a dull period in the mid-80s as well) I continued to stand by their music, as I knew that this was just a very brief faze they were going through, and I was right! Fingers crossed this works! William From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 17 06:35:42 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:05:42 +1030 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: I would recomend: Alien 4 - (I have one copy left to trade) Chronicle black sword Live chronicles Palace Springs just to get started..... ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr _ Technical" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: > 1) 20 years (!!) > 2) 1982 - 2002 > 3) Wine, women and (different) songs > 4) Found websites etc, went to see them in December and now listen to > nothing else. I've got a lot of albums to buy and catch up on now. Perhaps > someone could recommend the essentials from the last 20 years. I've > recently bought Space Bandits and am not 100% keen on it. > > > >I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go > >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning > >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, > >particularly: > > > >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? > >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? > >3) What made you leave? > >3) What made you come back? > > > >The answers in my case would be 1) 15 years 2) 1982 - 1997 3) I wasn't > >enjoying the new stuff they were doing, and 4) I went to a gig they played > >near my house and got sucked back in! > > > > > >Steve > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 17 06:42:24 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:42:24 GMT Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: Steve Youles's message of Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500 Message-ID: Steve Youles writes: > I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go > off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning > to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, > particularly: > > 1) How many years did you spend away from HW? I didn't go cold turkey, but I quit Kollecting. > 2) When did you leave and when did you come back? 1987 and back in 1989 > 3) What made you leave? All the crap compilation albums. > 3) What made you come back? The tour and lineup in 1989 were superb. FoFP From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 17 06:53:36 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:53:36 +0800 Subject: IncrediMail & BOC?Hawkwind Discussion List (was Re: HW: Sabbaticals) Message-ID: Hi again This e-mail got through. This seems to indicate that the IncrediMail e-mail program is not suitable for posting on this newsgroup, therefore anyone else considering to use it, it is best not to! Has anyone here been using it with success??? William > Hi all > > I've been having a bit of a problem posting things on here. For some bizarre > reason they are being rejected. I am wondering if it may be the E-mail > program I've been using over the past week IncrediMail Xe, & so I'm > duplicating what I wrote on old faithful here, Outlook Express. If this goes > through, then I know where the problem lies. > > > I've always been a fan as well. There was occasions when their albums were a > bit lamer than usual, but (just like the TV show Doctor Who, another > favourite of mine which had a dull period in the mid-80s as well) I > continued to stand by their music, as I knew that this was just a very brief > faze they were going through, and I was right! > > Fingers crossed this works! > > William > > From steve.bayley at HERTSCC.GOV.UK Mon Feb 17 08:26:05 2003 From: steve.bayley at HERTSCC.GOV.UK (Steve Bayley) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:26:05 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: In his reply to the sabbaticals question Nick Medford wrote; << snip >> "Who the hell is Ron Tree??" << snip >> As one who fell from grace (1990 to 2001 - see below) I'd like to know "Who the hell is Ron Tree??" actually... I went to my first HW show at St Albans City Hall in 1981, having been a fan for some years before. I accumulated a fairly hefty collection (singles especially) over the next 10 years or so and caught about 30 more gigs before I 'droped-out'. My gap was between 1990 & 2001, last live show I saw Hammersmith Dec 1990 was not too good and let I things slip! I'd gotten sick of rubbish compilations too. I some how failed to hear about new releases and tours and just got lost.... A gig not too far from home (Hitchin Town Hall, Dec 2001) brought me back. I have no idea what albums I have missed (other than more compilations) or what the line-ups have been. Steve ********************************************************************** The information in this message should be regarded as confidential and is intended for the addressee only unless explicitly stated. If you have received this message in error it must be deleted and the sender notified. The views expressed in this message are personal and not necessarily those of Hertfordshire County Council unless explicitly stated. Please be aware that emails sent to or received from Hertfordshire County Council may be intercepted and read by the Council. Interception will only occur to ensure compliance with Council policies or procedures or regulatory obligations, to prevent or deter crime, or for the purposes of essential maintenance or support of the email system. ********************************************************************** From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 17 08:50:41 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:20:41 +1030 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: You can find most hawkwind albums listed at my "electric tepee" http://alien-dream.com/electric_tepee/enter.html of course its not 100% complete but most are there. These are scans of cd's I own personally. As I complete the collection there will be more. for example cd's not listed are: White zone - coming soon Live canturbury - coming soon Weird tapes other than #6 - soon 25 years & ASAM - one day!! and whatever else I have forgotten --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Bayley To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:56 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > In his reply to the sabbaticals question Nick Medford wrote; > << snip >> > "Who the hell is Ron Tree??" > << snip >> > > As one who fell from grace (1990 to 2001 - see below) > I'd like to know "Who the hell is Ron Tree??" actually... > > I went to my first HW show at St Albans City Hall in 1981, having been a > fan for some years before. > I accumulated a fairly hefty collection (singles especially) over the next > 10 years or so and caught about 30 more gigs before I 'droped-out'. > > My gap was between 1990 & 2001, last live show I saw Hammersmith Dec 1990 > was not too good and let I things slip! I'd gotten sick of rubbish > compilations too. > > I some how failed to hear about new releases and tours and just got > lost.... > > A gig not too far from home (Hitchin Town Hall, Dec 2001) brought me back. > > I have no idea what albums I have missed (other than more compilations) or > what the line-ups have been. > > Steve > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information in this message should be regarded as > confidential and is intended for the addressee only unless > explicitly stated. If you have received this message in error > it must be deleted and the sender notified. The views > expressed in this message are personal and not necessarily > those of Hertfordshire County Council unless explicitly > stated. Please be aware that emails sent to or received > from Hertfordshire County Council may be intercepted and > read by the Council. Interception will only occur to ensure > compliance with Council policies or procedures or > regulatory obligations, to prevent or deter crime, or for the > purposes of essential maintenance or support of the email > system. > ********************************************************************** From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 17 09:24:56 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:24:56 -0500 Subject: BOC:David Roter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm sorry Al. He had a one-of-a-kind sense of humor. I hope to hear it one more time on the new album. > Unfortunately, David passed away today at 2PM. He was 56 years old. We will > have to finish his new album without him but it will come out. All his > friends want to help. > Al From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 17 11:19:21 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:19:21 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:14:28 -0500, Dr _ Technical wrote: Perhaps >someone could recommend the essentials from the last 20 years. IMHO most of the truly essential HW over this period can be found on live albums, rather than studio. 'Palace Springs' (1991) is the pick of the bunch, probably my 2nd fave HW live album after 'Space Ritual'. As well as gorgeous versions of some old faves, it contains the song 'Treadmill', the best HW track of the last 20 years IMHO. 'This is Hawkwind- Do Not Panic' (released '84, contains live material from '80 and '84) is another excellent live album. Indeed almost all the official live releases are well worth owning, although 'Glastonbury '90' has very poor sound quality apparently. As for studio albums, I always liked 'Choose Your Masques' which you may or may not have heard as it came out in '82, and also have a soft spot for 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' ('85). But for me 'Electric Tepee' ('92) is *easily* the best HW studio album of the last 2 decades, and is IMHO the only studio album from this period which bears comparison with the HW masterworks from the 70s. Some people rate 'Alien 4' very highly but I've always thought it was patchy- some good stuff there though. Oh, and in answer to another q, Ron Tree was a free fest/punk character who took on some of the lead vocals over the period 1994-2001. Also played bass for a brief period when Alan Davey wasn't around. He left rather abruptly and I'm not sure the circumstances of his departure have ever been made public. I think it's safe to say opinion among the fanbase was divided as to his merit- personally thought he was an erratic performer but certainly had his moments. Problem was he was trying too hard to be a replacement for Bob Calvert rather than putting his own mark on things. His lyrics were a sort of poor imitation of Calvert's - wordy, sci-fi oriented, but not actually very good unfortunately. OTOH he was a good rabble-rousing frontman on his night. Many people won't agree with the opinions expressed above, but that's why we have a discussion list I suppose. Nick From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Mon Feb 17 11:56:56 2003 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:56:56 -0700 Subject: IncrediMail & BOC?Hawkwind Discussion List (was Re: HW: Sabbaticals) Message-ID: Hello-- I used IncrediMail for a while. I don't remember posting to boc-l with it (I probably didn't). Maybe you can set it to send text-only? I got rid of it because it crashed a lot, and because I don't correspond with lots of people who want code-heavy emails with lots of animated gifs. :-) Guido William Duffy wrote: >Hi again > >This e-mail got through. This seems to indicate that the IncrediMail e-mail >program is not suitable for posting on this newsgroup, therefore anyone else >considering to use it, it is best not to! > >Has anyone here been using it with success??? > >William > > > > > >>Hi all >> >>I've been having a bit of a problem posting things on here. For some >> >> >bizarre > > >>reason they are being rejected. I am wondering if it may be the E-mail >>program I've been using over the past week IncrediMail Xe, & so I'm >>duplicating what I wrote on old faithful here, Outlook Express. If this >> >> >goes > > >>through, then I know where the problem lies. >> >> >>I've always been a fan as well. There was occasions when their albums were >> >> >a > > >>bit lamer than usual, but (just like the TV show Doctor Who, another >>favourite of mine which had a dull period in the mid-80s as well) I >>continued to stand by their music, as I knew that this was just a very >> >> >brief > > >>faze they were going through, and I was right! >> >>Fingers crossed this works! >> >>William >> >> >> >> > > > From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Mon Feb 17 12:00:29 2003 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:00:29 -0700 Subject: IncrediMail & BOC?Hawkwind Discussion List (was Re: HW: Sabbaticals) Message-ID: One other thing, IncrediMail is an "MS-style" email program. I don't think it affords any protection versus viruses that exploit MS email program vulnerabilities. That's why I use Mozilla (though Opera 7 looks to have a great (or potentially great) emailer--but plaintext only). Guido William Duffy wrote: >Hi again > >This e-mail got through. This seems to indicate that the IncrediMail e-mail >program is not suitable for posting on this newsgroup, therefore anyone else >considering to use it, it is best not to! > >Has anyone here been using it with success??? > >William > > > > > >>Hi all >> >>I've been having a bit of a problem posting things on here. For some >> >> >bizarre > > >>reason they are being rejected. I am wondering if it may be the E-mail >>program I've been using over the past week IncrediMail Xe, & so I'm >>duplicating what I wrote on old faithful here, Outlook Express. If this >> >> >goes > > >>through, then I know where the problem lies. >> >> >>I've always been a fan as well. There was occasions when their albums were >> >> >a > > >>bit lamer than usual, but (just like the TV show Doctor Who, another >>favourite of mine which had a dull period in the mid-80s as well) I >>continued to stand by their music, as I knew that this was just a very >> >> >brief > > >>faze they were going through, and I was right! >> >>Fingers crossed this works! >> >>William >> >> >> >> > > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 17 11:54:18 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:54:18 +0800 Subject: IncrediMail & BOC?Hawkwind Discussion List (was Re: HW: Sabbaticals) Message-ID: Hi there I experimented with it for about a week. Didn't have any crashes with it, but I did feel it was eating up more memory due to the code-heavy emails. I won't be going back to it though, as I found it less user-friendly than Outlook Express. William PS Anyone know how to transfer emails from IncrediMail to Outlook Express, as Outlook doesn't list it? > Hello-- > > I used IncrediMail for a while. I don't remember posting to boc-l > with it (I probably didn't). Maybe you can set it to send text-only? I > got rid of it because it crashed a lot, and because I don't correspond > with lots of people who want code-heavy emails with lots of animated > gifs. :-) > > Guido > > William Duffy wrote: > > >Hi again > > > >This e-mail got through. This seems to indicate that the IncrediMail e-mail > >program is not suitable for posting on this newsgroup, therefore anyone else > >considering to use it, it is best not to! > > > >Has anyone here been using it with success??? > > > >William > > > > > > > > > > > >>Hi all > >> > >>I've been having a bit of a problem posting things on here. For some > >> > >> > >bizarre > > > > > >>reason they are being rejected. I am wondering if it may be the E-mail > >>program I've been using over the past week IncrediMail Xe, & so I'm > >>duplicating what I wrote on old faithful here, Outlook Express. If this > >> > >> > >goes > > > > > >>through, then I know where the problem lies. > >> > >> > >>I've always been a fan as well. There was occasions when their albums were > >> > >> > >a > > > > > >>bit lamer than usual, but (just like the TV show Doctor Who, another > >>favourite of mine which had a dull period in the mid-80s as well) I > >>continued to stand by their music, as I knew that this was just a very > >> > >> > >brief > > > > > >>faze they were going through, and I was right! > >> > >>Fingers crossed this works! > >> > >>William > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Feb 17 15:16:47 2003 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:16:47 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- Steve Bayley wrote: > I have no idea what albums I have missed (other than > more compilations) or what the line-ups have been. > > Steve Let's have a go at the line-ups then (& bear in mind I'm only attempting this so others can correct me): 1990: Brock/House/Bainbridge/Davey/Chadwick/Bridgett Wishart, until Simon left in the Spring but was temporarily replaced by a barking dog at Glastonbury 90. March 91: Steve Bemand/Bainbridge/Davey/Chadwick/ Wishart ...alllegedly coz Brock had had enough! May 91 unitl end of 1994 : Brock/Davey/Chadwick with guest appearances from others inc. Tim Blake May 91 US tour (not sure though) Bridgett Aug 91 Mildenhall fest Ron Tree May 92 1 gig on the Tepee tour 2 DJs called Salt Tank Aug 92 at Brixton Samantha Fox 1993 on Gimme Shelter single Simon House April 94 tour April 1995 - Summer 1996: Brock/Davey/Chadwick/Ron Tree Jerry Richards put in a couple of guest appearances July 95 but didn't stay, and I read somewhere that Crum did a few gigs on the Oct/Nov 95 Alien tour - if so, not at the gigs I saw. Athens Nov 96 - Brock/Davey/Chadwick/Tree/Richards ....then Alan left! Noooooooooooooooooo...... 1997 - Brock/Davey/Chadwick/Tree(now on bass) with - Jun 97 - Huw guests at Blackheath Aug 97 - Nik guests on US gigs inc Strange Daze? Autumn 97 tour - Capt Rizz guests, and Crum guests after 1st couple of gigs, and halfway through the tour Harvey starts doing support slots. 1998 - bugger all 1999 - was this the year Brock & Tree were denied access to US? So Rizz, Jerry & Richard did the gig with Steve Taylor & others from ALien Planetscapes. 5 date tour Nov 1999 - Brock/House/Chadwick/Tree/Richards with Harvey joining at 2nd gig Keith Kniveton on synths at 4th gig Nik guests for the last time with "normal" HW at 5th gig. Feb/Mar 2000 Australian tour - Brock/House/Bainbridge/Chadwick/Richards/Steve Taylor on bass (coz the Aussies wouldn't let Ron in) Hawkestra Oct 2000 (deep breath) Brock/Bainbridge/House/Chadwick/Tree/Richards Davey (yeaaay!)/Thompson/Kniveton/ Blake/Turner/Langton/Crimble/ Ollis/DikMik/Dettmar/Lemmy/Swindells/Powell/Slattery/ Griffin...and Samantha bloody Fox again ...oh i've had enough - anyone else like to take over from here? AL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Feb 17 16:18:22 2003 From: dr_technical at MCMAHON66.FSNET.CO.UK (Dr _ Technical) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:18:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Okay, so Palace Springs and Electric Teepee should be my next 2 buys, correct? Anyone got any more info on Capt. Rizz? From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Feb 17 16:33:26 2003 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:33:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Steve wrote: > I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, >particularly: > >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? >3) What made you leave? >3) What made you come back? I've alway's stayed with the band since 1976, but I must admit the early 80s were the least inspiring from my point of view - IMHO there is only one HW guitarist and to struggle to hear Dave's guitar lost among the wailing heavy metal solos of Huw was almost too much... Then came another golden period in 89 with Dave's Guitar cranked back up and Simon rejoining again! Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 17 17:00:16 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 06:00:16 +0800 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: The Business Trip Live should be added to your list. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr _ Technical" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:18 AM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > Okay, so Palace Springs and Electric Teepee should be my next 2 buys, > correct? Anyone got any more info on Capt. Rizz? > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Mon Feb 17 17:10:54 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:10:54 -0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Yeh - avoid it like the plague Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr _ Technical" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:18 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > Okay, so Palace Springs and Electric Teepee should be my next 2 buys, > correct? Anyone got any more info on Capt. Rizz? From coral at APORT.RU Mon Feb 17 17:46:32 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 01:46:32 +0300 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: > Yeh - avoid it like the plague avoid what? From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Feb 17 18:23:03 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:23:03 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Tribute - double CD Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:58:40 -0000, Ted Blair wrote: >BOC-L Digest - 15 Feb 2003 to 16 Feb 2003 (#2003-57)Just heard about this: > >HAWKWIND TRIBUTE >'A Tribute To Hawkwind' double CD is to be issued by Godreah records in >July. Among those artists to be included are Tim Blake, Harvey Bainbridge, >Alan Davey, the Huw Lloyd Langton Group, Acidmotherstemple, Spirits >Burning, Acid King, Spacehead, Amorphis and the Meads Of Asphodel. I can vouch for the fact that the Spirits Burning track has been recorded :^). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Mon Feb 17 18:50:08 2003 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:50:08 CST Subject: BOC:David Roter In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Feb 2003 05:00:06 CST." <200302171000.FAA12238@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: albert bouchard writes: >Unfortunately, David passed away today at 2PM. He was 56 years old. We will >have to finish his new album without him but it will come out. All his >friends want to help. Aw, . "Find Something Beautiful" is one of my favorite CDs. Yeah, make sure that album gets finished. Crud. m@ From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Mon Feb 17 19:29:09 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:29:09 -0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: The Captain Rizz CD Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:46 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > > Yeh - avoid it like the plague > > avoid what? From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Tue Feb 18 00:30:55 2003 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:30:55 -0700 Subject: IncrediMail & BOC?Hawkwind Discussion List (was Re: HW: Sabbaticals) Message-ID: Hello-- Yes. http://email.about.com/cs/emailutilities/gr/incrediconvert.htm Guido William Duffy wrote: >Hi there > >I experimented with it for about a week. Didn't have any crashes with it, >but I did feel it was eating up more memory due to the code-heavy emails. I >won't be going back to it though, as I found it less user-friendly than >Outlook Express. > >William > >PS Anyone know how to transfer emails from IncrediMail to Outlook Express, >as Outlook doesn't list it? > > > > > >>Hello-- >> >> I used IncrediMail for a while. I don't remember posting to boc-l >>with it (I probably didn't). Maybe you can set it to send text-only? I >>got rid of it because it crashed a lot, and because I don't correspond >>with lots of people who want code-heavy emails with lots of animated >>gifs. :-) >> >>Guido >> >>William Duffy wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi again >>> >>>This e-mail got through. This seems to indicate that the IncrediMail >>> >>> >e-mail > > >>>program is not suitable for posting on this newsgroup, therefore anyone >>> >>> >else > > >>>considering to use it, it is best not to! >>> >>>Has anyone here been using it with success??? >>> >>>William >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi all >>>> >>>>I've been having a bit of a problem posting things on here. For some >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>bizarre >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>reason they are being rejected. I am wondering if it may be the E-mail >>>>program I've been using over the past week IncrediMail Xe, & so I'm >>>>duplicating what I wrote on old faithful here, Outlook Express. If this >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>goes >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>through, then I know where the problem lies. >>>> >>>> >>>>I've always been a fan as well. There was occasions when their albums >>>> >>>> >were > > >>>> >>>> >>>a >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>bit lamer than usual, but (just like the TV show Doctor Who, another >>>>favourite of mine which had a dull period in the mid-80s as well) I >>>>continued to stand by their music, as I knew that this was just a very >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>brief >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>faze they were going through, and I was right! >>>> >>>>Fingers crossed this works! >>>> >>>>William >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > From coral at APORT.RU Tue Feb 18 04:10:57 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:10:57 +0300 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: ----- > The Captain Rizz CD > Andy G. It's not bad. It has very catchy melodies. Alisa From dplaw at IC24.NET Tue Feb 18 08:09:06 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:09:06 -0500 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: a plea for help at our website www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk we are trying to get a section together entitled "the ladies page". the whole idea is for a none too serious look at women and their relationship with the band (no, not in that sense), we feel that the type of people that we want to hear from will fall into 2 categories - 1 - although a h/w audience seems predominantly male, we also know that plenty of women are into the band, so let's hear from you, do you have any interesting, amusing anecdotes regarding your time following hawkwind? 2 - now for the real fun, we also want to hear from wives, girlfriends, kids etc who hace to put up with a hawkwind obsessed male. so men if your reading this, why not let the good lady on the p.c and let her have her say on "everybodies" favourite bunch of sonic assasins! by all means post you stories on the list, but please be aware that we will want to use any good stuff for the site, if however you would rather contact us "annonamously" (if thats spelt right it i'll be a miracle) then you can do co via the site or send details direct to dplaw at ic24.net thanks for your time dave and simon co-curators www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk From steve.bayley at HERTSCC.GOV.UK Tue Feb 18 08:32:54 2003 From: steve.bayley at HERTSCC.GOV.UK (Steve Bayley) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 13:32:54 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals / Line-up / new thread Message-ID: Thanks to Alan Linsley for bravely attempting HW line-ups 1990-2000. Seeing the list i remember another thing that contributed to my 'time in the wilderness', I really didn't like Bridgett Wishart's contributions! And HW without Dave Brock (March '91), wow ?!?!? I hadn't realised Alan Davey had been gone so long. He guested in Hitchin Dec 2001 and was really good. Curiously I was holidaying with friends in Luxor, Egypt, last spring and wandered down to brekkie on the first morning looking for anyone from our crew. The only person in the breakfast room I knew was Alan who was staying in the same hotel. Despite the 'Bedouin' connection he'd never been in Egypt before and I remember him saying how freaked he'd been in Cairo as it was such a contrast to the quiet west-country backwater where he lives in England! Anyone else got any HW stories involving meeting band members in unexpected places? 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Interception will only occur to ensure compliance with Council policies or procedures or regulatory obligations, to prevent or deter crime, or for the purposes of essential maintenance or support of the email system. ********************************************************************** From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Feb 18 09:54:48 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:54:48 -0500 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: My other half declines to come to the PC knowing that it's anything to do with HW, but she is, er, *not keen*. Here are 3 quotes from her: 1. This music makes me feel nervous and uneasy 2. All their songs sound the same 3. They must have been the original on which Spinal Tap was based My 13-year old daughter describes them as 'sad' (purely on principle I think) and my 11-year old son used to profess a liking for them, but one admitted that he only really liked the explosions! Steve From coral at APORT.RU Tue Feb 18 10:01:24 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:01:24 +0300 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: What for? I don't understand why to separate one fans from others. Alisa > at our website www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk we are trying to get a section > together entitled "the ladies page". the whole idea is for a none too > serious look at women and their relationship with the band (no, not in > that sense), we feel that the type of people that we want to hear from > will fall into 2 categories - > 1 - although a h/w audience seems predominantly male, we also know that > plenty of women are into the band, so let's hear from you, do you have any > interesting, amusing anecdotes regarding your time following hawkwind? > 2 - now for the real fun, we also want to hear from wives, girlfriends, > kids etc who hace to put up with a hawkwind obsessed male. so men if your > reading this, why not let the good lady on the p.c and let her have her > say on "everybodies" favourite bunch of sonic assasins! > by all means post you stories on the list, but please be aware that we > will want to use any good stuff for the site, if however you would rather > contact us "annonamously" (if thats spelt right it i'll be a miracle) then > you can do co via the site or send details direct to dplaw at ic24.net > thanks for your time > dave and simon > co-curators > www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 18 10:03:38 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:33:38 +1030 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: If you tell us she is a country and western music fan I will die laughing. The number of country and western music fans I've heard say other music styles (in their respective genres) all sounds the same is amusing to say the least. ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Youles" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:24 AM Subject: Re: the female race and hawkwind > My other half declines to come to the PC knowing that it's anything to do > with HW, but she is, er, *not keen*. Here are 3 quotes from her: > > 1. This music makes me feel nervous and uneasy > 2. All their songs sound the same > 3. They must have been the original on which Spinal Tap was based > > My 13-year old daughter describes them as 'sad' (purely on principle I > think) and my 11-year old son used to profess a liking for them, but one > admitted that he only really liked the explosions! > > Steve From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 18 10:04:57 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:04:57 +0800 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: Hi Although my mum isn't a fan of their music (though she does like some of the ambient stuff), she has read Robert Calvert's lyrics & has said that he must have been a genius! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Youles" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: Re: the female race and hawkwind > My other half declines to come to the PC knowing that it's anything to do > with HW, but she is, er, *not keen*. Here are 3 quotes from her: > > 1. This music makes me feel nervous and uneasy > 2. All their songs sound the same > 3. They must have been the original on which Spinal Tap was based > > My 13-year old daughter describes them as 'sad' (purely on principle I > think) and my 11-year old son used to profess a liking for them, but one > admitted that he only really liked the explosions! > > Steve > > From coral at APORT.RU Tue Feb 18 10:15:35 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:15:35 +0300 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: I found this topic offensive. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 18 09:20:42 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:20:42 EDT Subject: the female race and hawkwind In-Reply-To: <001301c2d760$9a0dc0a0$8184dac3@ghostwheel3> Message-ID: On 18 Feb 2003 at 18:15, Alisa wrote: > I found this topic offensive. I do too, but why do you keep replying to it? theo From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 18 10:27:49 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:57:49 +1030 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: To express her feelings about it, no doubt.... ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:50 AM Subject: Re: the female race and hawkwind > On 18 Feb 2003 at 18:15, Alisa wrote: > > > > I found this topic offensive. > > I do too, but why do you keep replying to it? > > theo From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Feb 18 15:14:37 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:14:37 +0000 Subject: HW: Ron Tree / A Brown Message-ID: Nick wrote ; > << snip >> > Problem was he (Ron) was trying too hard to be a >replacement for > Bob Calvert rather than putting his own mark on >things. > << snip >> I never for a moment thought Ron Bastard ever tried to be Robert Calvert - he's too punk, he's more like Nik Turner IMO. > I remember thinking much the same wrt Arthur Brown's >performance last Dec. > However Arthur was SOOOOOO good I felt that he >couldn't really be > criticised for it! > Steve I for one am excited to see Arthur Brown onboard as I'm sure many other HW and AB fans like myself are. Chr. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Feb 18 15:28:48 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:28:48 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Alisa wrote: >> The Captain Rizz CD >> Andy G. >It's not bad. It has very catchy melodies. >Alisa How do you say "catchy" in Russian? I'd like to get it on with Russian girls. Chr. (I go to discos as a Chaos UK monk just to look up girls but I'll sometimes dance too, wearing my mohawk proudly :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Feb 18 15:51:55 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:51:55 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: --- Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > Alisa wrote: > > >> The Captain Rizz CD > >> Andy G. > > >It's not bad. It has very catchy melodies. > > >Alisa > > How do you say "catchy" in Russian? I'd like to get > it > on with Russian girls. > > Chr. (I go to discos as a Chaos UK monk just to look > up girls but I'll sometimes dance too, wearing my > mohawk proudly :) I forgot to mention always wearing my raggedy old black Hawkwind/Screaming Lord Sutch t-shirt which I bought at the Oslo '91 show when going to discos (since thrown away and partially replaced with a Voivod t-shirt) Chr. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 18 16:46:49 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:46:49 -0000 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: Re: the female race and hawkwind > What for? I don't understand why to separate one fans from others. > > Alisa Don't worry Alisa - it's probably just a bloke thing. You and I know that it's Hawkwind and the music that matters not the division into one stereotypical fan type or another but........ jill O+ From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 18 17:23:16 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:53:16 +1030 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: This will have the ladies raising their eyebrows, Amphetamine Embalmer. K sozhaleniyu, ya poka ne govoryu po russki. Do svidaniya! --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:58 AM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > Alisa wrote: > > >> The Captain Rizz CD > >> Andy G. > > >It's not bad. It has very catchy melodies. > > >Alisa > > How do you say "catchy" in Russian? I'd like to get it > on with Russian girls. > > Chr. (I go to discos as a Chaos UK monk just to look > up girls but I'll sometimes dance too, wearing my > mohawk proudly :) > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Feb 18 18:11:09 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:11:09 -0000 Subject: OFF: Anyone into 2000AD / Judge Dredd? Message-ID: I've got a load of stuff going very cheap on Ebay if anyone's interested - if I don't get the minimum bid they go in the bin when I move house. If you're interested, either mail me or look up beerpowerednoisefrenzy on ebay. Cheers, Rich. From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Feb 18 18:15:24 2003 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:15:24 -0600 Subject: the female race and hawkwind In-Reply-To: <200302181309.IAA17468@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Dave Law wrote: :Subject: the female race and hawkwind : :a plea for help : :at our website www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk we are trying to get a section :together entitled "the ladies page". the whole idea is for a none too :serious look at women and their relationship with the band (no, not in :that sense), we feel that the type of people that we want to hear from :will fall into 2 categories - :1 - although a h/w audience seems predominantly male, we also know that :plenty of women are into the band, so let's hear from you, do you have any :interesting, amusing anecdotes regarding your time following hawkwind? um, no, or at least nothing related to gender. Arin (one of the token females on the list.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/ENSS/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From rockypaths at MSN.COM Tue Feb 18 18:46:10 2003 From: rockypaths at MSN.COM (Jonathan Norman) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:46:10 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: 1: 6 Years 2: 1985 - 1991 3: Can't remember why but I did move to the States in that time and got into various State-side bands. 4: Picked up a copy of Palace Springs and I have never looked back... >From: Steve Youles >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Sabbaticals >Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500 > >I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, >particularly: > >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? >3) What made you leave? >3) What made you come back? > >The answers in my case would be 1) 15 years 2) 1982 - 1997 3) I wasn't >enjoying the new stuff they were doing, and 4) I went to a gig they played >near my house and got sucked back in! > > >Steve _________________________________________________________________ Worried what your kids see online? Protect them better with MSN 8 http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=186&DI=1059 From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 18 21:50:09 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:50:09 -0500 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: I think it's fascinating to get some "non-fan" perspectives on Hawkwind (both likes and dislikes), thanks Steve & William ... On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 09:54:48 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: >My other half declines to come to the PC knowing that it's anything to do >with HW, but she is, er, *not keen*. Here are 3 quotes from her: > >1. This music makes me feel nervous and uneasy Cool, but they don't do as good a job at that as, say, Current 93. >2. All their songs sound the same Mmmmm ... I love the Ramones! And Neu! >3. They must have been the original on which Spinal Tap was based Yet another positive recommendation, in my opinion (one of the reasons I like Hawkwind so much is because they ARE a band I can laugh at). But it just goes to show that there are a lot of differences of opinions out there ... >My 13-year old daughter describes them as 'sad' (purely on principle I >think) and my 11-year old son used to profess a liking for them, but one >admitted that he only really liked the explosions! Can't go wrong with explosions when you're trying to keep 11-year-old boys entertained! On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:04:57 +0800, William Duffy wrote: >Although my mum isn't a fan of their music (though she does like some >of the ambient stuff), she has read Robert Calvert's lyrics & has said >that he must have been a genius! Yes, I've gotten this reaction from several non-fans. The two common positive reactions I've gotten from non-fans are: 1) Calvert's an amazing poet (and yes, some have used the "G" word without me prompting them to). 2) Nik is an amazing frontman/performer. Neither of which relates to the thread title, since I've gotten both those comments from both males and females ... Surely I'm not the only person on the list who has dragged non-fan friends to see Hawkwind (or Nik, or perhaps other spacerockers) perform ... Are there any similar common reactions (positive or negative) that they've had afterwards? (Apologies if this question offends any non-fans on the list.) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 18 22:08:00 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:08:00 -0500 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:46:49 -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alisa" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:01 PM >Subject: Re: the female race and hawkwind > > >> What for? I don't understand why to separate one fans from others. >> >> Alisa > >Don't worry Alisa - it's probably just a bloke thing. You and I know >that it's Hawkwind and the music that matters not the division into one >stereotypical fan type or another but........ Actually, one of the reasons I like Hawkwind IS because of the *diversity* of the fanbase; I think it's pretty incredible that the music can be (and is) appreciated by leather&denim metalheads, pierced punks, sci-fi readers, poetry fans, hairy classic-rockers, baggy-pants-wearing ambient freaks, computer programmers & academicians, and plenty who don't fall into ANY of those categories (or, pardon me, stereotypes). And I'm incredibly curious about *why* all those people like Hawkwind (AND what parts of Hawkwind they don't like), because each of them sees Hawkwind in a different way, like a multi-faceted crystal which looks like it has a different shape depending on which angle you're looking at it from. I think it's extremely cool that some people can like the band mostly for the very things that I like the least about them. But maybe it is a dude thing to relentlessly categorize those things that we observe in life. Anyone wanna give me a grant to do some taxonomy work on the audience at the next Hawkwind show I attend? -Doug (leather-jacket-wearing-metal-pin-free-long-haired-punk-rockin'- PKDick-reading-synth-knob-twiddling-computer-programming-and-probably-a-few- more-categories male) jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 18 22:14:55 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:14:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: >I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, >particularly: > >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? About 5-ish. >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? Approx. 91-96. >3) What made you leave? Unimpressed with 'Electric Teepee' (subsequently more highly-regarded by me because it has some great songs, but there's still too much filler IMHO) and IitBotFtbD (which I haven't changed my opinion on). >4) What made you come back? Excitement over seeing Nik's band in '94, followed by Hawkwind the next year, with Ron Tree, who got the band out of the trio's "stasis" condition and made things more exciting to me. The UA/EMI remasters and the '1999 Party' being released around that time really helped, too. Still ... I can't say I was ever really "on sabbatical" ... it just took me longer to get around to buying the two aforementioned albums than any of HW's previous or subsequent studio efforts. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 18 22:21:56 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:21:56 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: I would recommend the recent 'Live (Nottingham) 1990' over 'California Brainstorm' (heresy, coming from me!), because: A) It's longer, but has all the songs (except "Reefer Madness") B) It has Simon House playing on one of the CD's C) Probably also easier to find these days And yes, definitely 'Electric Teepee'. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:23:20 -0500, rich.warren wrote: > And 'California Brainstorm' > >Rich W > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill & Cynthia" >To: >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 5:00 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > > >> The Business Trip Live should be added to your list. >> >> Cheers >> Bill >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dr _ Technical" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:18 AM >> Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals >> >> >> > Okay, so Palace Springs and Electric Teepee should be my next 2 buys, >> > correct? From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Feb 19 00:07:25 2003 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:07:25 -0600 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: Then instead of beginning with females, how about first ask those questions to baggy-pants-wearing ambient freaks, then perhaps go on to orange spikey mowhawked folks, then ohh....lessee...short haired horned rimmed glasses who speak with a lisp, and perhaps people who look like me (a terrifying thought!)....then females who wear butch haircuts, black leather jackets weigh over 200 lbs, and ride Harleys (an even scarier thought!)....oh...nudist HW fans would be a great topic, however! Point is each of us is unique in our own way, and like Hawkwind music for most of the same reasons, and our own unique ones as well, which has nothing to do with what pants we wear. C'mon, Doug..that's high school shite! From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Feb 19 00:34:09 2003 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:34:09 -0600 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: Doug.... I was fortunate in the 80's to be acquainted with one of the members of Black Flag, who had quite a punker following. Lost touch since then, but interestingly enough, this guy was a huge Hawkwind fan because it's trippy music and just friggin' jamming, and even covered HW songs with other bands he was in. At the end of the day, he listened to I guess what you'd call "normal" music - the Dead, Mountain, Captain Beyond, HW, Motorhead, etc....sat around the living room, smoked dope, shot the shit, farted, like anyone you mignt know. Oh..by the way....peace (referring to the previous H.S. comment)! From hms at ITECHMEDIA.COM Wed Feb 19 00:45:22 2003 From: hms at ITECHMEDIA.COM (Dr. Technical) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:45:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Science of the Sonic Attack Message-ID: Saw a very interesting article "Soundless Concert Stirs The Emotions" about a experiment involving the beaming of "infrasounds" - ultra low frequencies - at an unsuspecting audience last september in Liverpool. Another proof that the Hawkwind team was 30 years ahead of time. Hawkwind has been employing these diabolical "ULF" with great success - many of us can remember leaving Hawkwind shows feeling like we've just been ejected from a tornado... http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0300whatson/0800events/page.cfm? objectid=12647919&method=full&siteid=50061 From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Wed Feb 19 00:55:31 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:55:31 -0500 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: > I was fortunate in the 80's to be acquainted with one of the members of > Black Flag, who had quite a punker following. Lost touch since then, but > interestingly enough, this guy was a huge Hawkwind fan because it's trippy > music and just friggin' jamming, and even covered HW songs with other bands > he was in. At the end of the day, he listened to I guess what you'd call > "normal" music - the Dead, Mountain, Captain Beyond, HW, Motorhead, > etc....sat around the living room, smoked dope, shot the shit, farted, like > anyone you mignt know. I liked Black Flag.... one of their songs ended up in Repo Man IIRC.... From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Wed Feb 19 04:00:39 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 10:00:39 +0100 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: Dave prodded... > at our website www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk we are trying to get a section > together entitled "the ladies page". Previously discussed...but I love the name, "Ladies Page." :) The only clean such site on the internet. > 2 - now for the real fun, we also want to hear from wives, > girlfriends, kids etc who have to put up with a hawkwind > obsessed male. so men if your reading this, why not let the > good lady on the p.c and let her have her say... OK, to grant the other gender equal time, I guess I'll have to be the one to point out that No. 2 here is equally stereotypical. Oh wait, I forgot, perpetually single folk are obviously deranged or something. A 21st Century Schizoid Man From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 19 06:52:46 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 06:52:46 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: >>4) What made you come back? > >Excitement over seeing Nik's band in '94, followed by Hawkwind the next >year, with Ron Tree, who got the band out of the trio's "stasis" condition >and made things more exciting to me. Despite my earlier lukewarm comments on Ron, it's probably true he introduced a necessary jolt of energy. In fact I've never really made my mind up about him- didn't see HW on the '95 or '97 tours when by all accounts he was contributing more. I thought the "Calvert replacement" problem was particularly evident at the Astoria Xmas party in 2000, (the 'Yule Ritual' gig), when he sang just one song of his own (which was left off the album) and was otherwise only onstage to sing Calvert numbers. Which he did pretty well, but it felt a little like seeing a tribute act. Nick From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 19 08:14:31 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:44:31 +1030 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > I thought the "Calvert replacement" problem was particularly evident at the > Astoria Xmas party in 2000, (the 'Yule Ritual' gig), when he sang just one > song of his own (which was left off the album) and was otherwise only > onstage to sing Calvert numbers. Which he did pretty well, but it felt a > little like seeing a tribute act. They should have reserected Bob to make it more real I guess. Smeg From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Feb 19 08:36:34 2003 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John Swartz) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:36:34 -0500 Subject: BOC:David Roter Message-ID: > > Unfortunately, David passed away today at 2PM. He was 56 years old. We will > > have to finish his new album without him but it will come out. All his > > friends want to help. > > Al I'm very sorry to hear this. To many of us, David was of course just the wacky genius that helped give us such great BOC and tBS songs like "Joan Crawford", "Unknown Tongue", "(666) Devil Got Your Mother" ("... and he did not use a rubber...he looks just like John Denver!"), not to mention his own creations. But of course some have lost much more - a family member or a friend. My sincere condolences to David's family and friends. I hope that they will be comforted in their loss in knowing that he brought great joy (and will continue to do so) to those who got to experience his musical and comedic gifts. John From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Feb 19 11:54:06 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:54:06 +0000 Subject: OFF: Radio Aleister Playlist Message-ID: "RADIO ALEISTER", FICTIONAL PLAYLIST, CHRISTMAS CALENDER SURPRISE PARTY BROADCAST, DECEMBER 2002: "Reptoid Vision", Hawkwind / "No Security", Chaos UK / "Sailor Man", Turboneger / "Tears", The Chameleons / "China Cat Sun Flower", The Grateful Dead / "Graablick Blev Han Vaer", Ulver / "Broken", Corpus Delicti / "Blacklist Methods", The Legendary Pink Dots / "Chief Rebel Angel", Entombed / "Sympathy For The Devil", Tiamat / "Twin Dummy", Vo?vod / "I Love Livin' In The City", Fear / "Pre-Med", Alan Davey w/Ron Tree / "Return Of The Titanic Overture", Ant-Bee / "Rose And The Thorn", Thirteenth Floor Elevators / "Transparent Radiation", Spacemen 3 / "You Are Just A Flying Egg", The Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band / "Bittersweet Symphony", The Verve / "Evil", Monster Magnet / "Love Of Life", The Swans / "Nadir's Big Chance", Peter Hammill / "Kronwinkl 12", Amon D??l II / "Introduce Yourself", Faith No More / "Chromium Plating", Pink Fairies / "The Twelve Steps", Spiritualized / "Hot Rails To Hell (live)", Blue ?yster Cult / "Neon Knights", Black Sabbath / "Shockneck", Pressurehed / "Seagull", Ride / "Exploding InYour Mind (live)", Sun Dial / "Bomber", Mot?rhead / "MI5's Alive", Third World War / "Don't Tread On Me", Cro-Mags / "Master Of Puppets", Metallica / "You've Been Duplicated", Chrome / "Close Encounters Of The Third Grade", Mercury Rev / "Speed King", Deep Purple / "Module Overload", Fu Manchu / "A Thousand Days In Sodom", Venom / "Today Your Love, Tomorrow The World", Ramones / "Don't Get Funny With Me", The Cramps / "I Want Drugs", The Meatmen / "God Save The Pope", Captain Jesus & The Sunray Dream / "From The Gut", H?sker D? / "Rock'n'Roll Toilet", The Soft Boys / "Street Fighting Man", The Rolling Stones / "Bodies", The Sex Pistols / "Orgasm Addict", Buzzcocks / "Weekend Punks", Television Personalities / "Afterglow", The Small Faces / "I Feel Nothing", The Boo Radleys / "Wait For The Blackout", The Damned / "It's A Long Way To The Top If You Wanna Rock'n'Roll", AC/DC / "Fortune Teller (live)", The Who / "The Number Of The Beast", Iron Maiden / "Skin Deep", The Stranglers / "She Sells Sanctuary", The Cult / "Dear Prudence", Siouxie & The Banshees / "Cock In My Pocket (live)", Iggy & The Stooges / "Adrenochrome", Sisters Of Mercy / "Shakin' Street", MC5 / "Cheree", Suicide / "Gut Feeling", Devo / "Hallogallo", Neu! / "You Make Pretty Flowers", JFK, jr. Royal Airforce / "Loaded", Primal Scream / "Screaming Life", Soundgarden / "The Turning", Screaming Trees / "Fortune Presents Gifts Not According To The Book", Dead Can Dance / "Internal Messenger", Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come / "Heroes", David Bowie / "Whiteout", Killing Joke / "Kick Muck (live)", Ozric Tentacles / "Levity Ball", Alice Cooper / "Prince Kajuku", UFO / "Interstellar Shortwave", Astral Army / "My Flash On You", Love / "Heavenly Pop Song", The Chills / "Reynard The Fox", Julian Cope / "Domino", Genesis / "Dead On Time", Queen / "Fohat Digs Holes In Space", Gong / "Hhai (live)", Magma / "Flying Through The Ether", Helios Creed / "Ritchie Dagger's Crime", The Germs / "Techno's Song", Gwar / "Lastivka", Nokturnal Mortem / "Schisandra", Jessamine / "Enlighten The Child", Red Harvest / "Good Morning Little Schoolgirl", The Yardbirds / "Masks", Van Der Graaf Generator / "Madman Jack", Donovan / "We Gotta Get Outta This Place", The Animals / "Sabotage", Beastie Boys / "The Badge", Pantera / "The Triangle", TSOL / "Cave Of Seagulls", Cathedral /"Fulcrum Of Time", Pseudo Sun / "Gaga On The Sphinx", Black Sun Ensemble / "Axis Bold As Love", Jimi Hendrix / "1988 Activator", Steve Hillage / "Tid", Stengte D?rer / "Fallout", Inner City Unit / "She", Misfits / "Protest And Survive", Discharge / "Silver Machine", Alien Sex Fiend / "A Trip To G9", Spiral Realms / "Human Nature", IQ / "Radio", Joy Division / "The First Five Minutes After Death", Coil / "Octopus Ride", Syd Barrett / "Five Crowns Of The Saxon King", F/i / "Salad Days", Minor Threat / "Armageddon", Bathory / "Let The Power Reach Your Ears", Nova Express / "Charlotte Sometimes", The Cure / "Fanfare For The Perfect Race", Robert Calvert / "Waste Of Time", Kingston Wall / "Classic Girl", Jane's Addiction / "Hip Death Goddess", Lithium X-Mas / "What Goes On", Velvet Underground / "Bring Down The Birds", Herbie Hancock / "The Safety Dance", Men Without Hats / "Massive Tangled Muscle", Die Cheerleader / "Supernaut", 1000 Homo DJ's / "One Vision", Laibach / "Into The Drink", Mudhoney / "Dark Side", Shadows Of Knight / "Get Me To The World On Time", The Electric Prunes / "Been A Son", Nirvana / "Caught By The Fuzz", Supergrass / "The Ming", Deathsquad UK / "God's Children", The Kinks / "Diseased", Dictators / "Life's A Long Song", Jethro Tull / "Trouble In The Streets", The Lost Ones / "Agape", Narnia / "Truck Turner", Isaac Hayes / "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised", Gil-Scott Heron / "Hurry On Sundown", The Petals / "You Can Be Anyone This Time Around", Timothy Leary / "We Have Come For Your Children", Architectural Metaphor / "Don't Fight It, Feel It", Primal Scream / "S.A.L.T.", The Orb / "Ode To Death", National Steam / "The Coming Of The Dark God", Lotto / "Chainsaw Gutsfuck", Mayhem / "Arnold Layne", Pink Floyd / "Tales Of Brave Ulyssees", Outskirts Of Infinity / "Fire", The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown / "Pulsating Dream", Kaleidoscope / "Stargazer", Tempest / "Wait Until Tomorrow", Black Widow / "Wild In The Streets", Circle Jerks / "Floatin' Anarchy", Planet Gong / "Social Alliance", Dave Brock ...and do enjoy this fictional radio broadcast to the maximum, my brethren... and remember, darkwave is the true gothic legacy of The Sex Pistols! yours, Christian Mumford, the one and only true reincarnation of Aleister Crowley aka Delphine, the late French DJ crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Feb 19 15:12:22 2003 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:12:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Nick Wrote: >I thought the "Calvert replacement" problem was particularly evident at the >Astoria Xmas party in 2000, (the 'Yule Ritual' gig), when he sang just one >song of his own (which was left off the album) and was otherwise only >onstage to sing Calvert numbers. Which he did pretty well, but it felt a >little like seeing a tribute act. > >Nick I have to disagree on this point at least as regards being onstage. Bob had a unique, theatrical way of performing and moving about on stage. I can't say as I ever saw Ron acting anything like Bob, or sounding like him - at least at the gigs I 've seen him at. I think that although comparisons between Bob and Ron are ineveitable - they are also unfair. Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Wed Feb 19 16:01:53 2003 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:01:53 -0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: > >>4) What made you come back? > > > >Excitement over seeing Nik's band in '94, followed by Hawkwind the next > >year, with Ron Tree, who got the band out of the trio's "stasis" condition > >and made things more exciting to me. > > Despite my earlier lukewarm comments on Ron, it's probably true he > introduced a necessary jolt of energy. In fact I've never really made my > mind up about him- didn't see HW on the '95 or '97 tours when by all > accounts he was contributing more. Gotta say, Ron was fantastic in '95 as an out & out frontman doing his own thing which incidentally included a few Calvert numbers. '97's bass role restricted his band fronting activities but the overall shows were still excellent. Mark From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Feb 19 16:21:03 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:21:03 -0500 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:07:25 -0600, Tom Clark wrote: >Then instead of beginning with females, how about first ask those questions >to baggy-pants-wearing ambient freaks, then perhaps go on to orange spikey >mowhawked folks, then ohh....lessee...short haired horned rimmed glasses who >speak with a lisp, and perhaps people who look like me (a terrifying >thought!)....then females who wear butch haircuts, black leather jackets >weigh over 200 lbs, and ride Harleys (an even scarier >thought!)....oh...nudist HW fans would be a great topic, however! That's why I wrote, "Anyone wanna give me a grant to do some taxonomy work on the audience at the next Hawkwind show I attend?". Does this mean that you've approved my grant application ;^) ? >Point is each of us is unique in our own way, Yes. >and like Hawkwind music for most of the same reasons, Mostly yes (I'm sure there are a few people out there who like Hawkwind for mutually-exclusive reasons). >and our own unique ones as well, Yes. Absolutely. >which has nothing to do with what pants we wear. No. (Taking "what pants we wear" as a metaphor for "which sociological groups, demographics and/or subcultures we, or those observing us, would associate us with"; please correct me if I'm misinterpreting you - any mention I make of articles of clothing, personal accoutrements, or hairstyles in these messages is intended to be metaphorical in that sense.) I'm not saying that everyone who wears the same color & style of pants thinks in exactly the same way. But I am saying that it *does* have something to do with the way we perceive and describe things. The reviewer for 'Kerrang!' is going to have *entirely* different things to say about IitBotFtbD (or 'Choose Your Masques') than a reviewer from 'Magical Blend' is, even though they're describing the exact same album. Therefore it's important for the informed reader of those reviews to know that 'Kerrang's readers are probably wearing leather jackets, and 'Magical Blend's are wearing crystals. And surely my signature made it painfully obvious that no one wears just one pair of pants, anyway (at least I don't, and don't believe that anyone else is so one-dimensional as to do so - certainly no one on this list!). Although as I said in my other message, wrt this thread, I'm more interested in what non-Hawkwind fans (no matter what pants they wear - or, as you point out - don't wear ... check out the reviews of the Devon Hawkfest 2002, or Strange Daze 1997 at Brushwood for more on THAT subject) have to say about Hawkwind's music, both positive and negative. ESPECIALLY when those are valid criticisms (such as, "all their songs sound the same" - a true statement on certain levels, but the use of minimalism/repetition is part of the reason why I like HW). But *especially* those non-Hawkwind fans who are close to us. Not just long-suffering spouses/boyfriends/girlfriends, but parents & kids (and other relatives), housemates & co-workers. Anyone who thinks of you as "that crazy Hawkwind fan". >C'mon, Doug..that's high school shite! But Tom, we're all here on the Internet talking about a *rock band*! If that isn't already a symptom of arrested development, I don't know what is (the only thing worse being actually *playing* in a rock band)? And yes, Dez Cadena was Black Flag's coolest singer, even if the DC3 weren't that great (Hawkwind covers notwithstanding - their versions of "Psi Power" and "Angels of Death" can be heard on the currently- circulating 'Hawkwind Covers All vol.6' CD-R). And yes, he was rhythm guitarist on "T.V. Party", the track they contributed to the 'Repo Man' soundtrack. One of my favorite subculture-specific Hawkwind anecdotes comes from an interview he & Al Flipside did with Dave & Richard on the '89 US tour. Dez was talking about Black Flag's first UK tour ... after weeks on the road, playing every night, they finally got back to the London squat where they were "based", and had a night off. So their (metaphor alert!) mohawked hosts, being nice folks and all, offer to take the band out to see a show on their free night. "Who do you want to see? Crass? Exploited? Sham 69? Conflict?" To which Greg and Dez immediately reply, much to the dismay of their hosts, "We wanna see Hawkwind!". "THOSE old hippies?!?!??!" Cheers, -Doug (apologies for stereotypes of metalheads, punk rockers & new agers; you can all come beat me up outside the cafeteria after 5th period if you're offended) jasret at mindspring.com From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Feb 19 16:37:56 2003 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:37:56 -0600 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: But Tom, we're all here on the Internet talking about a *rock band*! If that isn't already a symptom of arrested development, I don't know what is (the only thing worse being actually *playing* in a rock band)? Hahahahaaa!!! You are absolutely correct! Had to laugh at that one...I mean I'm just about 40, and I think just being here almost borderlines being a "groupie"....hahahahaha.... Peace! From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Feb 19 19:28:50 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:28:50 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen wrote: >> >>4) What made you come back? >> > >> >Excitement over seeing Nik's band in '94, followed >by Hawkwind the next >> >year, with Ron Tree, who got the band out of the >trio's "stasis" >condition >> >and made things more exciting to me. >> >> Despite my earlier lukewarm comments on Ron, it's >probably true he >> introduced a necessary jolt of energy. In fact I've >never really made my >> mind up about him- didn't see HW on the '95 or '97 >tours when by all >> accounts he was contributing more. >Gotta say, Ron was fantastic in '95 as an out & out >frontman doing his own >thing which incidentally included a few Calvert >numbers. >'97's bass role restricted his band fronting >activities but the overall >shows were still excellent. I agree. When I saw them at The Limelight in 1995 I was surprised at how well he did as the then new singer, decked out in fluorescent lab coat and flight goggles, delivering a great and energetic performance, the opening "Master Of The Universe" and the subtle rasta bits in the otherwise punked up "Urban Guerilla" really making the grade IMO. I also agree about his role as a bassist, as on the Strange Daze 97 video he did pretty well, devil horns and all and doing new numbers like "Reptoid Vision"..... >Mark Chr. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 19 20:04:11 2003 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:04:11 EST Subject: BOC:David Roter Message-ID: In a message dated 2/19/2003 11:27:48 AM US Eastern Standard Time, jswartz at MITRE.ORG writes: > I'm very sorry to hear this. To many of us, David was of course just > the wacky genius that helped give us such great BOC and tBS songs like > "Joan Crawford", "Unknown Tongue", "(666) Devil Got Your Mother" Me too! Another name to add to a new version of The Righteous Brothers song. "Rock and Roll Heaven." Joe From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Feb 19 22:17:10 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:17:10 -0500 Subject: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: <200302162150.QAA09638@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: ::1) How many years did you spend away from HW? 8 - 10 ::2) When did you leave and when did you come back? 82 to 92 or so ::3) What made you leave? I'm cheating on this one. I never left.. they left me. As there was no North American distribution rights in that time period (again OR SO, I'm not being accurate here) I figured they had gone the way of all my favorite bands from the 70's.. belly up or broken up or popped up... ::3) What made you come back? Found that now famous Warrior box set and discovered to my joy that it was _I_ who had gone missing not the 'wind!. Good "poll" Steve Mike Montfort _____________________________________________ Tact is the knack of making a point without making an enemy. -- Isaac Newton From novadrive at COX.NET Wed Feb 19 22:41:50 2003 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:41:50 -0700 Subject: HW: White Zone In-Reply-To: <001201c2d850$8a101bd0$8e50a944@amyandstephe> Message-ID: Just curious: I see a lot of differing opinions on IITBOTFTBD, and those who don't like it REALLY don't like it (I do). But I almost never see criticisms of 'White Zone'... Is it because it is so different (I don't think it is), or because it isn't labeled "Hawkwind" and so shouldn't be judged the same, or something completely other reason? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Feb 20 00:25:05 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (t.byrne) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 05:25:05 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Sabbaticals / Sexist Survey Message-ID: Hi all 1. How many years did you spend away from HW? None, I'm proud to say. I even bought all the (official)albums as they came out in the 80s and wondered why I still did it. 2) When did you leave and when did you come back? Never left, but became more enthusiastic with the advent of the internet and meeting other fans, and especially with HW's return to form over the last few years. Let me at this point put in a plug for the IRC channel Hawkwind.org.uk on newnet which is a great forum for finding you're not alone in the universe (see 2nd part of note). 3) What made you leave? Nothing, but in the 80s I wondered why I stayed. 4) What made you come back? I'm currently enjoying the 'Winds 2nd wind. The other thread. This isn't exclusively a female thing, as friends and colleagues have thought I was daft too. Having said that the wife endures the HW passion with amused & bemused tolerance. For years she was convinced that I was their only fan, that they produced the endless re-issues for me personally because they knew that I would buy them and that they had only ever released four tracks which kept coming out in different incarnations. Having said that. she's accompanied me to concerts, which she's hugely enjoyed, especially the Summer 2002 fest. A couple of years ago one of my sons did a school project on Hawkwind, focussing on the SF connection. His classmates did bands like Linkin Park, Oasis etc. the teacher wrote "An interesting and unusual choice" on his work - which is as good a one-line summary of the band as I've come across. The kids also appreciated the Summer Fest and Canterbury, but their musical taste seems to veer towards angry bands who deliver their songs at the top of their lungs. On the way back from the Summer Fest they did very passable impressions of Space-Rock swooshes all the way home and parodies of Michael Moorcock from "Warrior", which I was hard pressed to tell from the real thing. The wife considers HW to have lots of charm and to be not nearly as unlistenable as Magma, my other musical passion. Regards Tom From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Feb 20 04:14:04 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:14:04 -0000 Subject: the female race and hawkwind Message-ID: Hey, Steve, Are you married to my wife too? (Although her preferred dismissive term is "feedback".) :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Youles" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:54 PM Subject: Re: the female race and hawkwind > My other half declines to come to the PC knowing that it's anything to do > with HW, but she is, er, *not keen*. Here are 3 quotes from her: > > 1. This music makes me feel nervous and uneasy > 2. All their songs sound the same > 3. They must have been the original on which Spinal Tap was based > > My 13-year old daughter describes them as 'sad' (purely on principle I > think) and my 11-year old son used to profess a liking for them, but one > admitted that he only really liked the explosions! > > Steve > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 20 07:38:35 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:38:35 EDT Subject: How's this set list? In-Reply-To: <20030219201123.GUVW23417.wmpmta01-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual> Message-ID: dr. music harvester of eyes i love the night tatoo vampire shooting shark divine wind burnin for you godzilla reaper encore black blade dominance and submission B?C played this set at Vegas recently. Pretty short set, but at least they shook things up a bit... From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Feb 20 09:24:37 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:24:37 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:12:22 -0500, Mick Crook wrote: >I have to disagree on this point at least as regards being onstage. Bob had a unique, theatrical way of performing and moving about on stage. I can't say as I ever saw Ron acting anything like Bob, or sounding like him - at least at the gigs I 've seen him at. I think that although comparisons between Bob and Ron are ineveitable - they are also unfair. I agree entirely! I just think that, as you say, the comparisons became inevitable, because after a while Ron's role seemed to be restricted to singing the Calvert songs. I don't think this did Ron any favours. Like I said, I never saw him when he wasn't either a) encumbered by a bass guitar or b) offstage half the time, so I may not be in the best postion to judge. And I quite liked his vocals. But I did have a bit of a problem with his lyrics. Although I suppose it's fair to say that aside from Calvert, lyrics have never been HW's strongest suit. Nick From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Thu Feb 20 09:50:42 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:50:42 -0500 Subject: How's this set list? Message-ID: > encore > black blade > dominance and submission > > > B?C played this set at Vegas recently. Pretty short set, but at least they shook > things up a bit... I've never seen them do Black Blade before, definitely hope to catch them while it's in their repertoire.... From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Feb 20 09:31:22 2003 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:31:22 -0400 Subject: HW: Choose your 'Sundown' ('Hurry on' that is ), News, music & more! Message-ID: Choose your 'Sundown' ( 'Hurry On', that is ), News, Music & more!!! Hello friends, Two days ago, it was my pleasure to be joined by my wife in our studio!! Some of you may be familiar with my wife, Dr. Maria Ramundo, via the artwork on the Sloterdijk '4th Beast' CD, Hawkwind Summer Camp, 'School Daze' UK visit, 2003 etc. Although she is inspiring to me, she has until now remained on the 'other side of the microphone', taping shows, taking photos and the like. When she knocked on the studio door and I suggested that she add a tambourine track to 'Hurry on Sundown', I honestly never expected her to actually do it. Next thing I knew she had headphones on, and I was leaving the room ( at her request), having cued the track to begin about 30 seconds after I slipped out. I soon heard her tapping away, and she continued to do so until the end of the track. Had I finally and successfully committed my wife to tape? "Yes"! Next day, I set about mixing down the track. It was really just a practice, but with Maria's tambourine firmly entrenched in the mix, I decided to press on. Now, many of you may well know, that I haven't been playing much electric or lead guitar these days, at least not in the same fashion as I had been; well here is some new electric lead playing to compliment Maria's participation. Here's where you come in!!!!!! Having played the track several times through, I ended up with 2 working mixes. I am asking you, the listener to help determine which is the better mix. It's not just about mixing per se', but each version features a different '2nd lead guitar track'. You'll find both versions posted at: http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com as 'Hurry on Sundown' demos 1&2. Once you've listened to both versions, please leave a note at the 'comments' section of the website. I'll check back and see what people think, then ultimately remove the losing track from the playlist. Additionally, as I have done in the past, I continue to make demo & live versions of the songs I'm working on freely available to people who are interested in or support my music. Sometimes these tunes remain on the site for a long time, other times I replace them relatively quickly. For those of you, who might be keen, I have also posted a demo of the Keith Colley tune; 'Bird Doggin', most notably recorded by Gene Vincent in the 1960's. Album News: We are actively in negotiations with several record labels regarding the release of the newly recorded One Eyed Bishops CD. SLOTERDIJK will appear on the forthcoming Hawkwind tribute CD, released by Godreah Records, UK This effort includes contributions by Tim Blake, Huw Llyod Langton, & many more. Check out: www.godreah.com Live gigs: Don't forget to keep checking the 'shows' section of our website at: http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com Next scheduled gig is Friday, April 18th: Borders Books & Music, Mays Landing, New Jersey This show will begin at 8:00 PM and will not conclude before 9:00. Admission is FREE!!!! Beginning March 1rst, you can keep your eye on the gig by checking out: http://www.bordersstores.com/events/events.jsp?view=1&storeID=193 Cheers & all the very best!!!!! Mike Burro From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Feb 20 13:26:53 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:26:53 -0500 Subject: White Zone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe because it is so good? -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of KevinSommers Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:42 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: White Zone Just curious: I see a lot of differing opinions on IITBOTFTBD, and those who don't like it REALLY don't like it (I do). But I almost never see criticisms of 'White Zone'... Is it because it is so different (I don't think it is), or because it isn't labeled "Hawkwind" and so shouldn't be judged the same, or something completely other reason? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Feb 20 13:28:01 2003 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:28:01 -0500 Subject: How's this set list? In-Reply-To: <3E54940A.15185.4D27B8@localhost> Message-ID: Awesome Now who has a tape of this? Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Ted Jackson Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 7:39 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: How's this set list? dr. music harvester of eyes i love the night tatoo vampire shooting shark divine wind burnin for you godzilla reaper encore black blade dominance and submission B?C played this set at Vegas recently. Pretty short set, but at least they shook things up a bit... From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 20 13:48:51 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:48:51 -0500 Subject: BOC: How's this set list? In-Reply-To: <3E54940A.15185.4D27B8@localhost> Message-ID: > i love the night I always thought of this song as Reaper Pt. 2. It's one of my favorites. I never imagined they'd be playing it live though. > tatoo vampire This one should have been in the set a long time ago. Although maybe it used to be played all the time before I became a fan in the early '90s. The combination of that riff and the "vampire vibrato," with Eric snarling his way through Helen Wheel's lyrics...every metal band since '76 should have covered it. > divine wind I can see why they brought this one back.... > black blade >From my e-mail address, I think it's pretty clear how bad I want to hear this. Brian obConcert> Gov't Mule, Rochester, NY 2/13/03 From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Feb 20 14:02:31 2003 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:02:31 EST Subject: BOC: How's this set list? Message-ID: In a message dated 02/20/2003 1:49:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > I always thought of this song as Reaper Pt. 2. It's one of my favorites. I > never imagined they'd be playing it live though They were playing I Love the Night in their live set when I saw them in 1983. SET From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 20 14:33:39 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:33:39 -0500 Subject: BOC: How's this set list? In-Reply-To: <1f0.2661b45.2b868047@aol.com> Message-ID: Steven Tice wrote: > They were playing I Love the Night in their live set when I saw them in > 1983. I did a quick scan of the "Tour Dates of Yore" section on the BOC site. Looks like they first played it in '82. It's a neat little resource, I've never really checked it out before. Do they have the setlist for the date you saw them? Brian From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 20 15:07:22 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:07:22 -0500 Subject: BOC: Some Enchanted Evening Video Message-ID: I was watching VH1 Classic last night and caught the end of a "Reaper" live video that was supposedly from SEE. I never knew such a video was out there. Does anyone here have it and is it all from one concert, or does it match the tracks on the album? Brian From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Feb 20 15:16:22 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:16:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:24:37 -0500, nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM wrote: >I agree entirely! I just think that, as you say, the comparisons became >inevitable, because after a while Ron's role seemed to be restricted to >singing the Calvert songs. I don't think this did Ron any favours. Yes yes yes. FWIW, I'll add that Ron never seemed to be trying to be a "Bob" clone nearly as much as Alan is trying to be a "Lemmy" clone these days. Neither of which is necessarily a bad thing (being able to play bass pretty much as well as Lemmy is a *mighty* good thing!), although I am a bit amused that he even speaks in a "Lemmy" voice onstage these days (and did he take voice lessons during his sabbatical from Hawkwind? His singing these days is lightyears beyond his vocals in the late-80s/early-90s). >Like I said, I never saw him when he wasn't either a) encumbered by a bass >guitar or b) offstage half the time, so I may not be in the best postion to >judge. And I quite liked his vocals. But I did have a bit of a problem with >his lyrics. Although I suppose it's fair to say that aside from Calvert, >lyrics have never been HW's strongest suit. One thing that Bob could do, which very few singers can (I was in a band with one once, but he was often as unbalanced and difficult to deal with as Bob could be), was to freely improvise lyrics. Some of the free associations Bob came up with are incredible, and it's fascinating to hear how he jumps between ideas. Probably the best example of this would be "Over The Top", but there are also cool instances at the end of "25 Years" on the 'Hawklords Live' CD, and the middle/end of "Uncle Sam's On Mars" ('PXR5' version). I'd love to hear more examples. Unfortunately, the few times Ron attempted this, he'd usually end up repeating some catchphrase over and over. Definitely NOT the same thing. I'm also of the opinion that Ron was underrated on bass. Understandable, when you consider that Hawkwind has had at least three absolutely stellar bassists throughout their career. But I thought he brought as much energy to the band with his bass playing as with his singing. It's tough to do both at once, though ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Feb 20 15:25:27 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:25:27 -0500 Subject: BOC: How's this set list? Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:38:35 EDT, Ted Jackson wrote: >dr. music >harvester of eyes >i love the night >tatoo vampire >shooting shark >divine wind >burnin for you >godzilla >reaper > >encore >black blade >dominance and submission > >B?C played this set at Vegas recently... Oh, man! If the setlist in San Francisco last week was anything like that, then I'm very bummed about not going ("Tattoo Vampire"!!) ... I even had a friend pestering me to go (but it was on monday in a week where I was scrambling to prepare for playing two weekend shows with two different bands). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Feb 20 15:40:11 2003 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:40:11 EST Subject: BOC: How's this set list? Message-ID: In a message dated 02/20/2003 2:33:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > I did a quick scan of the "Tour Dates of Yore" section on the BOC site. > Looks like they first played it in '82. It's a neat little resource, I've > never really checked it out before. Do they have the setlist for the date > you saw them? > > Brian It was at PSU in early '83...from memory, the setlist was (not necessarily in order): Dr. Music The Red and the Black Cities on Flame Hot Rails to Hell Fallen Angel Joe Bouchard bass solo Reaper ETI Golden Age of Leather I Love the Night Joan Crawford Godzilla (complete with giant mechanical Godzilla) Burnin' For You Born to Rock (from Roeser's solo album) I Ain't Got You Born to be Wild Roadhouse Blues I had a great time, despite the fact that they performed the one BOC song I disliked, three cover songs, and none of my favorite BOC material (note there's nothing from Secret Treaties, nor any of the three Moorcock songs--Black Blade was my favorite BOC song at the time). Steven Tice Calliope Comics 519 Valentine Hill Road Bellefonte, PA 16823 814-355-9830 Musings Online: http://javapadawan.com/calliope/ From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 20 16:18:29 2003 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (Jez Dacombe) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:18:29 -0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Hi, Alan's mimicking of Lemmy is worse than "amusing", it's diabolical and makes me cringe. Playing bass ala Lemster is fine, but all this posing with downturned mic and pretending to have a gruff voice is laughable. He should just be himself. Who are these 3 stellar bassists you mention Doug? I'm stuck on one. I miss Ron for sheer lunacy & unpredictablity. Cheers, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:24:37 -0500, nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM wrote: > >I agree entirely! I just think that, as you say, the comparisons became > >inevitable, because after a while Ron's role seemed to be restricted to > >singing the Calvert songs. I don't think this did Ron any favours. > > Yes yes yes. FWIW, I'll add that Ron never seemed to be trying to be > a "Bob" clone nearly as much as Alan is trying to be a "Lemmy" clone these > days. Neither of which is necessarily a bad thing (being able to play bass > pretty much as well as Lemmy is a *mighty* good thing!), although I am a > bit amused that he even speaks in a "Lemmy" voice onstage these days (and > did he take voice lessons during his sabbatical from Hawkwind? His singing > these days is lightyears beyond his vocals in the late-80s/early-90s). > > >Like I said, I never saw him when he wasn't either a) encumbered by a bass > >guitar or b) offstage half the time, so I may not be in the best postion to > >judge. And I quite liked his vocals. But I did have a bit of a problem with > >his lyrics. Although I suppose it's fair to say that aside from Calvert, > >lyrics have never been HW's strongest suit. > > One thing that Bob could do, which very few singers can (I was in a band > with one once, but he was often as unbalanced and difficult to deal with as > Bob could be), was to freely improvise lyrics. Some of the free > associations Bob came up with are incredible, and it's fascinating to hear > how he jumps between ideas. Probably the best example of this would > be "Over The Top", but there are also cool instances at the end of "25 > Years" on the 'Hawklords Live' CD, and the middle/end of "Uncle Sam's On > Mars" ('PXR5' version). I'd love to hear more examples. Unfortunately, > the few times Ron attempted this, he'd usually end up repeating some > catchphrase over and over. Definitely NOT the same thing. > > I'm also of the opinion that Ron was underrated on bass. Understandable, > when you consider that Hawkwind has had at least three absolutely stellar > bassists throughout their career. But I thought he brought as much energy > to the band with his bass playing as with his singing. It's tough to do > both at once, though ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Feb 20 16:09:07 2003 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (Jez Dacombe) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:09:07 -0000 Subject: HW: White Zone Message-ID: Hi, I hate both and you can throw in Pipe Dreams as well. Anybody who's after any of these three can drop me a line with an offer as the chances of me ever playing any of them any verge on zero! White Zone & Pipe Dreams are both in cardboard sleeves. It Is The Business is standard jewel. Cheers, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: KevinSommers To: Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:41 AM Subject: HW: White Zone > Just curious: I see a lot of differing opinions on IITBOTFTBD, and those who > don't like it REALLY don't like it (I do). But I almost never see > criticisms of 'White Zone'... Is it because it is so different (I don't > think it is), or because it isn't labeled "Hawkwind" and so shouldn't be > judged the same, or something completely other reason? > > > KevinSommers > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Feb 20 16:29:01 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:29:01 -0500 Subject: BOC: Some Enchanted Evening Video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 03:07 PM 2/20/03 -0500, you wrote: >I was watching VH1 Classic last night and caught the end of a "Reaper" live >video that was supposedly from SEE. I never knew such a video was out there. >Does anyone here have it and is it all from one concert, or does it match >the tracks on the album? > >Brian A mystery, Watson! The game's afoot (and as beautiful as one, too). Gut rxn says to me it's Live 1976...but if there is vid footage of that era, 'twould be cool. Talkin' bout the small but interesting setlist, wasn't there a planned 5 guitars finale for "I love the night?" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Feb 20 16:50:41 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:50:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:18:29 -0000, Jez Dacombe wrote: >Alan's mimicking of Lemmy is worse than "amusing", it's diabolical and >makes me cringe. >Playing bass ala Lemster is fine, but all this posing with downturned mic >and pretending to have a gruff voice is laughable. >He should just be himself. I completely see where you're coming from. I don't wear the yellow plastic jumpsuit and red flowerpot hat when I'm playing with bands *other* than the Devo tribute (not even the band leader does that, although he DID officially change his name to "Loid", as in "Mongo-" ... at least Alan didn't change his name to "Ace"! [as in "-of spades", of course]). >Who are these 3 stellar bassists you mention Doug? >I'm stuck on one. Adrian Shaw? People forget him since he wasn't in the band for very long, and his style is absolutely nothing like Lemmy/Alan, but his sense of melody, note placement, and his ability to play *with*, rather than *through*, a song, sets him head and shoulders above 99% of the world's bassists. Some of his parts, although deceptively-simple sounding, take a serious effort to learn and correctly execute. I'm still blown away by his musicianship every time I see him with the Bevis Frond. >I miss Ron for sheer lunacy & unpredictablity. I, too, prefer Hawkwind when there's someone in the band to make that contribution ... Nik, Bob, and (to a lesser extent) Harvey have provided that in the past, and from some of the show reviews I've read, it sounds like Arthur Brown is doing a respectable job of it. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Feb 20 16:56:54 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:56:54 -0500 Subject: BOC: Some Enchanted Evening Video In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20030220162901.0069a28c@acmenet.net> Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > Gut rxn says to me it's Live 1976...but if there is vid > footage of that era, 'twould be cool. It had the bad effects of Live 1976, but I only caught the very end. I'll have to compare the ending of Reaper to the 1976 version. > Talkin' bout the small but interesting setlist, wasn't there a planned > 5 guitars finale for "I love the night?" Do you mean the 5 guitar instrumental version of Golden Age? Brian From dahl at AROS.NET Thu Feb 20 17:45:52 2003 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:45:52 -0700 Subject: BOC: Some Enchanted Evening Video Message-ID: I was watching VHI C a week or so ago and they had live footage of RU Ready 2 Rock. It was great! This was not Live 76. There must be more! Who has it? Brad >I was watching VH1 Classic last night and caught the end of a "Reaper" live >video that was supposedly from SEE. From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 20 18:49:37 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:19:37 +1030 Subject: HW: White Zone Message-ID: $5 --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jez Dacombe To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:39 AM Subject: Re: HW: White Zone > Hi, > I hate both and you can throw in Pipe Dreams as well. > Anybody who's after any of these three can drop me a line with an offer as > the chances of me ever playing any of them any verge on zero! > White Zone & Pipe Dreams are both in cardboard sleeves. > It Is The Business is standard jewel. > Cheers, > Jez > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: KevinSommers > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:41 AM > Subject: HW: White Zone > > > > Just curious: I see a lot of differing opinions on IITBOTFTBD, and those > who > > don't like it REALLY don't like it (I do). But I almost never see > > criticisms of 'White Zone'... Is it because it is so different (I don't > > think it is), or because it isn't labeled "Hawkwind" and so shouldn't be > > judged the same, or something completely other reason? > > > > > > KevinSommers > > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > > From nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Feb 20 20:33:29 2003 From: nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM (nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:33:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:16:22 -0500, Doug Pearson wrote: re. Alan Davey >did he take voice lessons during his sabbatical from Hawkwind? His singing >these days is lightyears beyond his vocals in the late-80s/early-90s). And there was I assuming his voice (both speaking and singing) had dropped a couple of octaves purely through self-abuse (drinking and smoking, I hasten to clarify). In fact, that's... why, that'd be just like Lemmy! Imagine that. (although maybe Alan doesn't drink??) Some of the free >associations Bob came up with are incredible, and it's fascinating to hear >how he jumps between ideas. Probably the best example of this would >be "Over The Top", but there are also cool instances at the end of "25 >Years" on the 'Hawklords Live' CD, and the middle/end of "Uncle Sam's On >Mars" ('PXR5' version). I'd love to hear more examples. Don't know if it was truly spontaneous or not but I particularly like the bit on 'Time For sale' where the refrain "a second.. a second.." becomes "I sicken.. I sicken.."- whether pre-planned or not, it's a Total Bob Moment. Unfortunately, >the few times Ron attempted this, he'd usually end up repeating some >catchphrase over and over. Yeah, and usually the catchphrase was "genetic engineering", or similar. That used to get on my nerves. I would agree his bass playing was better than people gave him credit for, though. Nick From dahl at AROS.NET Fri Feb 21 02:42:14 2003 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:42:14 -0700 Subject: How's this set list? Message-ID: Dr. Music, really? WOO HOO! (just kidding) I have never heard them do: i love the night tatoo vampire divine wind black blade Did they ever do Tatoo Vampire back in the day? I've always liked that song. It and Summer of Love were the only 2 songs my band played off AOF when the album came out. Brad From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Fri Feb 21 02:29:41 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:29:41 +0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: <200302201424.JAA00908@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Thursday 20 Feb 2003 14:24, you wrote: > Like I said, I never saw him when he wasn't either a) encumbered by a bass > guitar or b) offstage half the time, so I may not be in the best postion to > judge. And I quite liked his vocals. But I did have a bit of a problem with > his lyrics. Although I suppose it's fair to say that aside from Calvert, > lyrics have never been HW's strongest suit. Were in slight disagreement over this, I think Hawkwind's Lyrics are the best ever written including those by Ron Tree IF they are taken the Right way. Some of them have reduced me to tears of Laughter. IMO Ron Tree took the Myth of Insanity to the Next Level, the Notion of getting back from the Subconscious to Reality on [Hawkwind 1997] is Intelligent and Highly Admirable. Also I think 25 Years on and Test Tube Concieved are certainly among the Greatest Works ever. Many would argue that from a Social Standing-Point they are a too close to the truth for comfort. Best Regards Ben From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Feb 21 03:03:14 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:03:14 +0100 Subject: BOC: How's this set list? Message-ID: ST offers... > It was at PSU in early '83...from memory, the setlist was > (not necessarily in order): > > Dr. Music > The Red and the Black > Cities on Flame > Hot Rails to Hell > Fallen Angel > Joe Bouchard bass solo > Reaper > ETI > Golden Age of Leather > I Love the Night > Joan Crawford > Godzilla (complete with giant mechanical Godzilla) > Burnin' For You > Born to Rock (from Roeser's solo album) > I Ain't Got You > Born to be Wild > Roadhouse Blues >From *memory*?! You keep this sort of information in your brain for 20 years? Holy crap, I'm impressed. Oh, yeah, I was at this same show...and only remember "I Love the Night" (my favorite BOC song) and Godzilla. And the thing with the mirrors on the backs of the guitars. I thought that was to D&S, but that isn't listed in the setlist here. I do remember the opening band was Duke Jupiter. And I do remember freezing to death overnight in line for tickets at the PSU HUB, so it was definitely not too far off from mid-winter, my freshman year, 1982-83. I'd guess it was something like Mar., 83. Grakkl (FAA) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 21 06:49:42 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:49:42 GMT Subject: White Zone In-Reply-To: Mike Montfort's message of Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:26:53 -0500 Message-ID: Mike Montfort writes: > Maybe because it is so good? To be hinest I never listen to it. I like electronic music but I find WZ a bit too bland. I'd like to see Hawkwind do more of the sort of techno stuff thay played at the end of Space is Their Palestine at Brighton. A whole album of stuff of that calibre would be fine by me. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 21 06:51:49 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:51:49 GMT Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:16:22 -0500 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > One thing that Bob could do, which very few singers can (I was in a band > with one once, but he was often as unbalanced and difficult to deal with as > Bob could be), was to freely improvise lyrics. Some of the free > associations Bob came up with are incredible, and it's fascinating to hear > how he jumps between ideas. Probably the best example of this would > be "Over The Top" So any guesses at how "It's all a fable for fountains now" fits in with Kitchener and WWI? Or did I mishear the lyric? FoFP From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Feb 21 07:23:46 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:23:46 +0100 Subject: HW: New album title? Message-ID: What should it (or will it) be? I suggest, "Talons of Mass Deception." Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Is the Death Generator theme still in place? Partially or completely? P.P.S. I like Ron's bass too...though I never saw him play live with the band. I'd take his bass-playing over Alan's singing. P.P.P.S. Obviously, alpine skiing didn't kill me, but not without my trying, and the damn flu to boot. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 21 06:35:23 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:35:23 EDT Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: <200302202150.QAA04109@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 20 Feb 2003 at 16:50, Doug Pearson wrote: > >Who are these 3 stellar bassists you mention Doug? > >I'm stuck on one. > > Adrian Shaw? People forget him since he wasn't in the band for very > long, and his style is absolutely nothing like Lemmy/Alan, but his > sense of melody, note placement, and his ability to play *with*, > rather than *through*, a song, sets him head and shoulders above 99% > of the world's bassists. Some of his parts, although > deceptively-simple sounding, take a serious effort to learn and > correctly execute. I'm still blown away by his musicianship every > time I see him with the Bevis Frond. > I saw Ade with Bevis Frond, and he's a great bassist. Good observation about his playing 'with' a song. I was impressed by his ability to play notes that 'fit' and didn't step on anyone else's parts. Great tone too... theo From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Feb 21 07:37:35 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:37:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Damo on radio... Message-ID: Just passing along this announcement...Keith >From the e-mail update for WNUR's live music show: On February 22, which just coincidentally falls during our annual fundraising drive, Airplay will feature a live performance from Damo Suzuki (ya know, the singer from legendary German krautrockers - Can) w/ local space gurus Defender, and also an interview. I will, of course, honor all good listener submitted questions, if they are sent to me by email. So listen next saturday to hear an unprecedented coup by WNUR, and perhaps chump a little change towards the station if you want our new and excellent psychedelic bug WNUR t-shirt. WNUR Airplay Live In-Studio Performances Every Saturday 4pm-6:30pm Chicago Time http://airplay.wnur.org They do webcast, for those not in the Chicago area. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 21 06:39:10 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:39:10 EDT Subject: BOC: How's this set list? In-Reply-To: <200302202025.PAA03385@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 20 Feb 2003 at 15:25, Doug Pearson wrote: > Oh, man! If the setlist in San Francisco last week was anything like > that, then I'm very bummed about not going ("Tattoo Vampire"!!) ... I > even had a friend pestering me to go (but it was on monday in a week > where I was scrambling to prepare for playing two weekend shows with > two different bands). > That's sucks, as I'm pretty sure they did Tattoo Vampire at that show too. Ah feel yer pain. Vampire is one of my faves, and I've only seen them do it a couple times. Good news is that it's aparently now in the setlist on a semi-regular basis... From AgentOF at AOL.COM Fri Feb 21 08:31:25 2003 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:31:25 EST Subject: BOC: How's this set list? Message-ID: I went to the Vegas show and was thrilled to arrive at my seat and find that I was in the Front Row perpendicular to Buck Dharma's mic! A Short set that included all of the new tunes: Dr. Music Harvester of Eyes I Love The Night Tattoo Vampire Shooting Shark Divine Wind The Big Three Encore: Black Blade Dominance and Submission Shooting Shark and Divine Wind stole the show. Buck's last solo in Shooting Shark had me thinking someone slipped a hit of acid in my O'Doul's. (Seriously!) We left hungry for more but everyone came out to mingle afterward and most were even treated to Melne singing Karaoke. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 21 07:42:15 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:42:15 EDT Subject: BOC: How's this set list? In-Reply-To: <17e.174cb458.2b87842d@aol.com> Message-ID: On 21 Feb 2003 at 8:31, Chuck Saden wrote: > I went to the Vegas show and was thrilled to arrive at my seat and > find that I was in the Front Row perpendicular to Buck Dharma's mic! A > Short set that included all of the new tunes: Dr. Music I wish Dr. Music was a new tune. I was aghast when it replaced TAtSoL or STtS as set opener, and it stayed in the set for a [too] long time... But the other 'new' stuff must have been a treat, for sure... theo From AgentOF at AOL.COM Fri Feb 21 08:51:42 2003 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:51:42 EST Subject: BOC: How's this set list? Message-ID: Theo, You know what I meant ;-) It was actually fun to hear Dr. Music again, especially in Vegas. Kind of fits right in with the glitz and glamour of the city. n a message dated 2/21/2003 7:44:18 AM Central Standard Time, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: > > I wish Dr. Music was a new tune. I was aghast when it replaced TAtSoL or > STtS as > set opener, and it stayed in the set for a [too] long time... > > But the other 'new' stuff must have been a treat, for sure... > > theo > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 21 07:54:10 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:54:10 EDT Subject: BOC: How's this set list? In-Reply-To: <200302202025.PAA03385@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 20 Feb 2003 at 15:25, Doug Pearson wrote: > Oh, man! If the setlist in San Francisco last week was anything like > that, then I'm very bummed about not going ("Tattoo Vampire"!!) ... I > even had a friend pestering me to go (but it was on monday in a week > where I was scrambling to prepare for playing two weekend shows with > two different bands). > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com Doug, I hate to do this to ya, but here's the SF setlist: Dr Music ETI Pocket Harvester of Eyes I Love the Night Tattoo Vampire Shooting Shark Divine Wind Cities Burnin Zilla Reaper ******** Black Blade Perfect Water Astronomy Man, Vampire and Astronomy in the same show! theo From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Feb 21 09:33:32 2003 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John Swartz) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:33:32 -0500 Subject: BOC: Some Enchanted Evening Video Message-ID: I believe what you guys are probably referring to is a (4 song?) video shot in Detroit Michigan in 1977 - I think it was a CBS records promo thing - there are probably a few copies floating around (some folks had made a compilation of all BOC's videos and included this in there). I think the songs were "R U Ready 2 Rock", "Godzilla", "The Reaper" and one other (or maybe it was only those 3 - memory fails). John > From: Brian Halligan > > Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > > Gut rxn says to me it's Live 1976...but if there is vid > > footage of that era, 'twould be cool. > > It had the bad effects of Live 1976, but I only caught the very end. I'll > have to compare the ending of Reaper to the 1976 version. > > From: Brad Dahl > > I was watching VHI C a week or so ago and they had live footage of RU Ready > 2 Rock. It was great! > > This was not Live 76. > > There must be more! > > Who has it? > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 21 08:37:21 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:37:21 EDT Subject: BOC: Some Enchanted Evening Video In-Reply-To: <3E5638BC.3A5064AF@mitre.org> Message-ID: On 21 Feb 2003 at 9:33, John Swartz wrote: > I believe what you guys are probably referring to is a (4 song?) video > shot in Detroit Michigan in 1977 - I think it was a CBS records promo > thing - there are probably a few copies floating around (some folks > had made a compilation of all BOC's videos and included this in > there). I think the songs were "R U Ready 2 Rock", "Godzilla", "The > Reaper" and one other (or maybe it was only those 3 - memory fails). > Ahem...'It's in the FAQ' Sorry, John, I couldn't resist! theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Feb 21 09:44:48 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:44:48 -0500 Subject: BOC: Some Enchanted Evening Video In-Reply-To: <3E5638BC.3A5064AF@mitre.org> Message-ID: John Swartz wrote: > I believe what you guys are probably referring to is a (4 song?) video > shot in Detroit Michigan in 1977 - I think it was a CBS records promo > thing - there are probably a few copies floating around (some folks had > made a compilation of all BOC's videos and included this in there). I > think the songs were "R U Ready 2 Rock", "Godzilla", "The Reaper" and > one other (or maybe it was only those 3 - memory fails). John, you are a veritable font of BOC knowledge. Thanks. Brian NP> Hawkwind "Epocheclipse, CD 2" From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Fri Feb 21 10:51:07 2003 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:51:07 -0500 Subject: Damo on radio... Message-ID: I hope someone will politely record this broadcast on some hi-fidelity medium, as I won't be able to since I'll actually be at the show. Is anyone else going to see the mighty Damo Suzuki tomorrow in Chicago? John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henderson Keith" To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:37 AM Subject: OFF: Damo on radio... > Just passing along this announcement...Keith > > From the e-mail update for WNUR's live music show: > > On February 22, which just coincidentally falls during our > annual fundraising drive, Airplay will feature a live performance from Damo > Suzuki (ya know, the singer from legendary German krautrockers - Can) w/ > local space gurus Defender, and also an interview. I will, of course, honor > all good listener submitted questions, if they are sent to me by email. > > So listen next saturday to hear an unprecedented coup by WNUR, and perhaps > chump a little change towards the station if you want our new and excellent > psychedelic bug WNUR t-shirt. > > WNUR Airplay > Live In-Studio Performances > Every Saturday 4pm-6:30pm Chicago Time > http://airplay.wnur.org > > They do webcast, for those not in the Chicago area. From steve.bayley at HERTSCC.GOV.UK Fri Feb 21 11:34:29 2003 From: steve.bayley at HERTSCC.GOV.UK (Steve Bayley) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:34:29 +0000 Subject: HW: Over The Top Message-ID: M Holmes wrote in reply to Doug Pearson : > One thing that Bob could do, which very few singers can (I was in a band > with one once, but he was often as unbalanced and difficult to deal with as > Bob could be), was to freely improvise lyrics. Some of the free > associations Bob came up with are incredible, and it's fascinating to hear > how he jumps between ideas. Probably the best example of this would > be "Over The Top" M Holmes >> So any guesses at how "It's all a fable for fountains now" fits in with Kitchener and WWI? Or did I mishear the lyric? ***** Is Over The Top commercially availiable now then? (I'm one of the sabbaticle folk) I have an acetate from 197???? with Dave's handwriting on a plain white sleeve listing the tracks and asking a record company (charisma?) if they want the LP or if he can have it for release himself .... I hardly dare play it but Bob's improv is fantastic on Over The Top! I can't quite remember the lyric so anyone else got any ideas? ****** I sent this to 'Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com' and intended to copy to this group but think I forgot, 'scuse if you've seen this already... << snip >> I spent a day with Bob back in late 80's. I'd gone down with two mates to Ramsgate where he was living at the time to hassle him gently along for an interview for a fanzine. I'd been contacting him via an address that seemed to be an agent/publisher but turned out to be his home. The plan hadn't been to actually see him that day but he asked us straight in. We spent hours sitting around in his kitchen drinking tea, smoking, chatting and recording the interview. He was extremely good company, lucid and eloquent. I often used to see him before London gigs with 'krankshaft' or 'the starfighters'. A mate of mine used to do the sound for him and I'd go along with the crew (thus getting in for free) and hang out with Bob for a while. Sometimes he was cool other times really manic. And, yes, of course at some gigs he was better than others. I saw what I think must have been his last live performance in the 100 club on Oxford Street. He was really charged up and quite wired that night, but bursting with creative energy. The following week I saw Huw Lloyd-Langton (at Dingwalls I think) and Martin Griffin was there. I was chatting to Martin about a planned HW 20th anniversary re-union gig and mentioned that Bob had said how exited he'd been at the idea. I remember clear as day Martin saying "Of course you know he's dead." It was a real double take moment as the news hadn't been released in the music press yet. Bob really was a fantastically creative person, full of enthusiasm. I never saw him live with HW but his input to the band really shaped their music I think. Steve M Holmes cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List 21/02/03 11:51 Please respond to BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Doug Pearson writes: > One thing that Bob could do, which very few singers can (I was in a band > with one once, but he was often as unbalanced and difficult to deal with as > Bob could be), was to freely improvise lyrics. Some of the free > associations Bob came up with are incredible, and it's fascinating to hear > how he jumps between ideas. Probably the best example of this would > be "Over The Top" So any guesses at how "It's all a fable for fountains now" fits in with Kitchener and WWI? Or did I mishear the lyric? FoFP ********************************************************************** The information in this message should be regarded as confidential and is intended for the addressee only unless explicitly stated. If you have received this message in error it must be deleted and the sender notified. The views expressed in this message are personal and not necessarily those of Hertfordshire County Council unless explicitly stated. Please be aware that emails sent to or received from Hertfordshire County Council may be intercepted and read by the Council. Interception will only occur to ensure compliance with Council policies or procedures or regulatory obligations, to prevent or deter crime, or for the purposes of essential maintenance or support of the email system. ********************************************************************** From youless at LVCM.COM Fri Feb 21 11:57:38 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:57:38 -0500 Subject: HW: Over The Top Message-ID: There is quite a decent compilation called Golden Void 1969-79 which has Over The Top on it. I saw a shrinkwrapped copy at Tower Records this week and so assume it's still readily available. Keep hold of that acetate! Steve ------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:34:29 +0000, Steve Bayley wrote: >Is Over The Top commercially availiable now then? (I'm one of the >sabbaticle folk) I have an acetate from 197???? with Dave's handwriting on >a plain white sleeve listing the tracks and asking a record company >(charisma?) if they want the LP or if he can have it for release himself From dplaw at IC24.NET Fri Feb 21 12:09:48 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:09:48 -0500 Subject: HW: Over The Top Message-ID: it's also tacked onto the end of "hawklords live" which you can still get via the net! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 21 12:11:05 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:11:05 GMT Subject: HW: Over The Top In-Reply-To: Steve Bayley's message of Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:34:29 +0000 Message-ID: Steve Bayley writes: > Is Over The Top commercially availiable now then? >From the Codex: Over the Top L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock L 1 Sonic Assassins 12" EP L 1 Independent Days, Vol. I L 1 Victoria double album L 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 L 1 The Hawklords Live L 1 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram] L 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD L 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD * This also includes The Awakening From StevenTice at AOL.COM Fri Feb 21 13:20:54 2003 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:20:54 EST Subject: BOC: How's this set list? Message-ID: In a message dated 02/21/2003 3:05:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, keith.henderson at PSI.CH writes: > From *memory*?! You keep this sort of information in > your brain for 20 years? Holy crap, I'm impressed. > > Oh, yeah, I was at this same show...and only remember > "I Love the Night" (my favorite BOC song) and Godzilla. > And the thing with the mirrors on the backs of the guitars. > I thought that was to D&S, but that isn't listed in the > setlist here. > > I do remember the opening band was Duke Jupiter. > > And I do remember freezing to death overnight in line > for tickets at the PSU HUB, so it was definitely not too > far off from mid-winter, my freshman year, 1982-83. I'd > guess it was something like Mar., 83. > > Grakkl (FAA) Yup, that sounds about right. :-) They didn't do D&S, nor anything else from Secret Treaties. That was the first concert I ever saw, so I remember it quite clearly. :-) I didn't remember the name of the opening band, but I do remember how the guitarist fretted his strings from above rather than below, and how the keyboardist's idea of a solo was to windmill his arm doing glisses on the keyboard...I believe the mirrors on the back of the guitar was during Born to be Wild. Eric rode a big ol' motorcycle onto the stage at the beginning of that one. :-) SET From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Fri Feb 21 13:13:19 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:13:19 -0500 Subject: HW: Over The Top Message-ID: > Is Over The Top commercially availiable now then? (I'm one of the > sabbaticle folk) I have an acetate from 197???? with Dave's handwriting on > a plain white sleeve listing the tracks and asking a record company > (charisma?) if they want the LP or if he can have it for release himself It's probably in the codex, but offhand I think Hawklords Live has it and the Golden Void 1969-19?? compilation (pink cover) which has been around quite a bit also has it IIRC. From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 21 15:49:55 2003 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (Jez Dacombe) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:49:55 -0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: Hi Doug, I think I must have mis-interpreted your original e-mail on this. I thought you meant "3 stellar bassists" during Ron's period in the band. Hence my confusion. Apologies. Cheers, Jez ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:18:29 -0000, Jez Dacombe > wrote: > >Alan's mimicking of Lemmy is worse than "amusing", it's diabolical and > >makes me cringe. > >Playing bass ala Lemster is fine, but all this posing with downturned mic > >and pretending to have a gruff voice is laughable. > >He should just be himself. > > I completely see where you're coming from. I don't wear the yellow plastic > jumpsuit and red flowerpot hat when I'm playing with bands *other* than the > Devo tribute (not even the band leader does that, although he DID > officially change his name to "Loid", as in "Mongo-" ... at least Alan > didn't change his name to "Ace"! [as in "-of spades", of course]). > > >Who are these 3 stellar bassists you mention Doug? > >I'm stuck on one. > > Adrian Shaw? People forget him since he wasn't in the band for very long, > and his style is absolutely nothing like Lemmy/Alan, but his sense of > melody, note placement, and his ability to play *with*, rather than > *through*, a song, sets him head and shoulders above 99% of the world's > bassists. Some of his parts, although deceptively-simple sounding, take a > serious effort to learn and correctly execute. I'm still blown away by his > musicianship every time I see him with the Bevis Frond. > > >I miss Ron for sheer lunacy & unpredictablity. > > I, too, prefer Hawkwind when there's someone in the band to make that > contribution ... Nik, Bob, and (to a lesser extent) Harvey have provided > that in the past, and from some of the show reviews I've read, it sounds > like Arthur Brown is doing a respectable job of it. > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Fri Feb 21 15:59:03 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:59:03 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: >Who are these 3 stellar bassists you mention Doug? >I'm stuck on one. Well, I happen to rather like Paul Rudolph, but I suspect that's not a widely held view here.... From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Feb 21 16:20:15 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:20:15 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:59:03 -0500, Andrew Apold wrote: >>Who are these 3 stellar bassists you mention Doug? >>I'm stuck on one. > >Well, I happen to rather like Paul Rudolph, but I suspect that's not a >widely held view here.... I think that Paul Rudolph is (was?) an excellent *guitarist* (I know I'm not the only person here to hold that view). One of my all-time favorites. And I think his bass playing worked very well on the Brian Eno albums he's on. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 21 16:45:35 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:45:35 -0000 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: A good guitarist but a mediocre bassist. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Apold" To: Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sabbaticals > >Who are these 3 stellar bassists you mention Doug? > >I'm stuck on one. > > Well, I happen to rather like Paul Rudolph, but I suspect that's not a > widely held view here.... > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Feb 22 22:55:03 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:55:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (February 23, 2003): We've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (show #69). See the playlist below. E.X.P. PRESS RELEASE Feb. 16, 2003 Almost 1 year after the first printing of Pachamama, E.X.P. are going back into the studio to jam their second release. May 19 is the date when the band will officially begin recordings at RedHouse studios (June of 44, One Dimensional Man, Linea 77...). Mr Gary Ramon from SUNDIAL will be there with them as a special guest and artistic producer of the album. This 70 minutes full length powertrip will see the light as main event in the human race history after the homo sapiens appearance. New unknown horizons of happiness and cosmic satisfaction will be disclosed. Stay tuned. For more information visit the E.X.P. web site at: http://www.expsupafuzz.com SPACEMIRRORS NEWS: The new album title has been changed to "The Darker Side of Art". Arjen Anthony Lucassen (Ayreon, Star One) recorded guitars and vocals for two songs: rhythm guitars and vocals for "It's cold today in Underworld", rhythm guitars and solo for Dark Jedi (part1), acoustic guitar for Dark Jedi (part 4) and narration for Dark Jedi (part 5). Steve Youles recorded acoustic guitar and solo bits for the Black Dragon. Jim Lascko a.k.a. "Finity" (Strange-Trips) is working on artwork and booklet design. Michael Blackman recorded all other guitar parts. The album is almost finished now. Only final mixing and several bits and pieces are left to be done. Spacemirrors project now seeks for the record label to release the album. For more information visit the Spacemirrors web site at: http://www.spacemirrors.com Aural Innovations Radio show #69 Mr Quimby's Beard - "Quartermass And The Pit" (from Not Of This Earth: Sci-Fi Movies Tribute) Frank Gingeleit - "Bad State Of Mind" (from Megalopolis) Outerdrive - "Spreadable Jellies" (from Hallucinations) Aarktica - "Out To Sea" (from Pure Tone Audiometry) Zane Armstrong - "The Otherside" (from Pull Up The Paisley Covers: A Psychedelic Omnibus) The Black Sea - "Life Among The Stars 1" (from c:>Spacewalk) Billy Syndrome - "Ugly Like Me" (from Between) The Warlocks - "Stone Hearts" (from Phoenix Album) Solace - "Once Around The Sun (Deep Through Time)" (from 13) Eric Wallack & Don Campau - "Onofrio's Return" (from Wreck A Lilac) Cul De Sac - "Bamboo Rockets" (from Death Of The Sun) Jens Unosson - "The Hills Are All Flat Now" (from Standing In The Trees I Get Lifted By The Leaves) The Spacious Mind - "Interplanetarian Lovemachine pt III" (from Live Volume One: Do Your Thing But Don't Touch Ours) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sun Feb 23 11:41:02 2003 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Alistair Ogilvy) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:41:02 EST Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: I've just got myself a new turntable, and, as you do, first thing I had to do was dig out the old HW vynil collection, much of which I hadnt played for 5 years..I havent got CD copies of Church, Stonehenge, Zones, amongst others, and only have vynil copies of the 12" singles (especially the remixes). I just had to write to say what a revelation hearing Church in its entirety for the first time in 5 yrs plus was. It really is a fantastic album. I'd forgotten how good it was. It'll certainly be on the turntable frequently now. I would even put it in my top 5 Hawk albums, alongside PXR5, Warrior, Space ritual, and the 1999 party. Incidently, for all those who couldnt work out the origins of the techno stuff give church a listen.....Theres many a clue to White Zone and Solstice remixes there! I was also impressed playing the Spirit of the age remixes, especially the flesh to phantasy mix....Does anyone know anything about Astralasia? Who are they? what other stuff have they done etc. Has Church ever been available on CD? I dont think I've ever seen it. Im surprised few people mention it on the list....I,m really convinced it deserves masterpiece status now!....Join the campaign for a CD remaster now !! ( I'm pretty sure I dismissed it at the time I bought it on vynil when it was first released, as it wasnt what I expected.) All the best Al From youless at LVCM.COM Sun Feb 23 12:08:16 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:08:16 -0500 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: Church of Hawkwind has been reissued on CD by Griffin & I think is still readily available. It includes 3 extra tracks, Identimate, Damage of Life & Mists of Meriden. But what bugs me is that they changed the running order of the tracks. Like you I really enjoyed the vinyl version of 'Church' & think the sequence of the tracks is excellent. I wish Griffin had maintained that sequence and just stuck the 3 extra tracks on the end. I'll have to listen to it again for the 'techno origins'... Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:41:02 EST, wrote: Has Church ever been available on CD? I dont think I've ever seen it. Im surprised few people mention it on the list.... From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Feb 23 12:38:34 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 04:08:34 +1030 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: Hi, yeah - church O' Hawkwind album is a beauty. and it certainly is available on cd. If I'm not mistaken Andy G at cd services may still have some. I'm sure I've seen then around on the net as well. But I recomend CD services as your first try. Good prices and good service. and I speak from at least a couple of years of experience. ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 3:11 AM Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil > I've just got myself a new turntable, and, as you do, first thing I had to do > was dig out the old HW vynil collection, much of which I hadnt played for 5 > years..I havent got CD copies of Church, Stonehenge, Zones, amongst others, > and only have vynil copies of the 12" singles (especially the remixes). > I just had to write to say what a revelation hearing Church in its entirety > for the first time in 5 yrs plus was. It really is a fantastic album. I'd > forgotten how good it was. > It'll certainly be on the turntable frequently now. I would even put it in my > top 5 Hawk albums, alongside PXR5, Warrior, Space ritual, and the 1999 party. > Incidently, for all those who couldnt work out the origins of the techno > stuff give church a listen.....Theres many a clue to White Zone and Solstice > remixes there! > I was also impressed playing the Spirit of the age remixes, especially the > flesh to phantasy mix....Does anyone know anything about Astralasia? Who are > they? what other stuff have they done etc. > Has Church ever been available on CD? I dont think I've ever seen it. Im > surprised few people mention it on the list....I,m really convinced it > deserves masterpiece status now!....Join the campaign for a CD remaster now > !! ( I'm pretty sure I dismissed it at the time I bought it on vynil when it > was first released, as it wasnt what I expected.) > > All the best > Al > From Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE Sun Feb 23 12:53:30 2003 From: Filip.Vanhuyse at PANDORA.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:53:30 +0100 Subject: HW:Andy G at CD Services Message-ID: WELL,What can I say------------------------------- Andy's still the best (actual how many times have we got to say this??) I got the problem I live on the continent,so P+P is killing me,but if I would live in the U N K ,I woundn't hesitate. Love you Andy From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Sun Feb 23 15:15:21 2003 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:15:21 -0000 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: I was also impressed playing the Spirit of the age remixes, especially the > flesh to phantasy mix....Does anyone know anything about Astralasia? Who are > they? what other stuff have they done etc. Astralasia started as an offshoot of the Magic Mushroom Band, I believe - a techno/ambient friendly dance act. They have released several albums and singles and played at the Hwakfest last year. Try here for more information but its a bit out of date. http://www.magickeye.com/astralasia.html Mark From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Feb 23 16:59:59 2003 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:59:59 -0000 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: This may seem a strange question, but what are Identimate & Mists of Meriden like? I've never heard those. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Youles" To: Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:08 PM Subject: Re: HW:dusting off the vynil > Church of Hawkwind has been reissued on CD by Griffin & I think is still > readily available. It includes 3 extra tracks, Identimate, Damage of Life > & Mists of Meriden. But what bugs me is that they changed the running > order of the tracks. Like you I really enjoyed the vinyl version > of 'Church' & think the sequence of the tracks is excellent. I wish > Griffin had maintained that sequence and just stuck the 3 extra tracks on > the end. > > I'll have to listen to it again for the 'techno origins'... > > Steve > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:41:02 EST, > wrote: > > > > Has Church ever been available on CD? I dont think I've ever seen it. Im > surprised few people mention it on the list.... > > From youless at LVCM.COM Sun Feb 23 17:56:09 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:56:09 -0500 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: The beginning of Identimate reminds me of Waimea Canyon Drive on Distant Horizons. It's a heavy Brock riff, but with a more boogie-ish vibe. Huw (I assume) throws in some lead guitar, there's a bit of Dave Brock knifeblade, some electronica....it doesn't really go anywhere much.... Mists of Meridin is a synth track, lush ambient keyboards working around a two-chord pattern. Percussion consists of phased cymbals, bells and a clock ticking. It would fit well on Memos & Demos or SpaceBrock. I read somewhere that Meridin is a village in Derbyshire (?) or somewhere, that is at the exact geographical centre of England. What this has to do with the track I don't know! Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:59:59 -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: This may seem a strange question, but what are Identimate & Mists of Meriden like? I've never heard those. From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Feb 23 18:11:13 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:11:13 -0000 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: The cheque's in the post Captain!!!!!!!lol I'll se what's on the shelf tomorrow - altho I am waiting on a lot of H'wind restocks rite now so maybe a couple of weeks or so yet. Andy G. www.cd-services.com and - yes- the search facility is not working quite as it shd be rite now - we're on the case ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cpt Blue Skin" To: Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: Re: HW:dusting off the vynil > Hi, > > yeah - church O' Hawkwind album is a beauty. and it certainly is available > on cd. If I'm not mistaken Andy G at cd services may still have some. I'm > sure I've seen then around on the net as well. But I recomend CD services > as your first try. Good prices and good service. and I speak from at least > a couple of years of experience. > > ----------------------------------- > Cpt Blue Skin > http://www.alien-dream.com > (Alien Dream) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 3:11 AM > Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil > > > > I've just got myself a new turntable, and, as you do, first thing I had to > do > > was dig out the old HW vynil collection, much of which I hadnt played for > 5 > > years..I havent got CD copies of Church, Stonehenge, Zones, amongst > others, > > and only have vynil copies of the 12" singles (especially the remixes). > > I just had to write to say what a revelation hearing Church in its > entirety > > for the first time in 5 yrs plus was. It really is a fantastic album. I'd > > forgotten how good it was. > > It'll certainly be on the turntable frequently now. I would even put it in > my > > top 5 Hawk albums, alongside PXR5, Warrior, Space ritual, and the 1999 > party. > > Incidently, for all those who couldnt work out the origins of the techno > > stuff give church a listen.....Theres many a clue to White Zone and > Solstice > > remixes there! > > I was also impressed playing the Spirit of the age remixes, especially the > > flesh to phantasy mix....Does anyone know anything about Astralasia? Who > are > > they? what other stuff have they done etc. > > Has Church ever been available on CD? I dont think I've ever seen it. Im > > surprised few people mention it on the list....I,m really convinced it > > deserves masterpiece status now!....Join the campaign for a CD remaster > now > > !! ( I'm pretty sure I dismissed it at the time I bought it on vynil when > it > > was first released, as it wasnt what I expected.) > > > > All the best > > Al > > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Feb 23 18:18:15 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:18:15 -0000 Subject: HW:Andy G at CD Services Message-ID: Blimey - thanks - any more of this and my head will be too big (DON't say it!!!). You know - amazingly enuff I've been selling Hawkwind and related music since 1980, pretty well non-stop, in three various guises - it would be amazing to know how many tens-even hundreds - of thousands of items that must be - and it all started because of the Melodic Energy Commission!! But that's another story...... Thanks again, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Filip Vanhuyse" To: Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: HW:Andy G at CD Services > WELL,What can I say------------------------------- > > Andy's still the best (actual how many times have we got > to say this??) > > I got the problem I live on the continent,so P+P is killing me,but if I > would live in the U N K ,I woundn't hesitate. > > Love you Andy From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Feb 23 18:21:53 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:21:53 -0000 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: As far as I know - and apologies if not true to anyone else - we here are the most up to date source for anything Astralasia related with CD singles and albums in stock, including "Axis Mundi" CD still with the bonus CDEP and last copies of "Uniweria Zekt" CD single!!! All enquiries welcomed - all questions answered to best of ability. Andy G. deadearnest at btopenworld.com agcdser at aol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: Re: HW:dusting off the vynil > > [snip]> I was also impressed playing the Spirit of the age remixes, > especially the > > flesh to phantasy mix....Does anyone know anything about Astralasia? Who > are > > they? what other stuff have they done etc. > Astralasia started as an offshoot of the Magic Mushroom Band, I believe - a > techno/ambient friendly dance act. > They have released several albums and singles and played at the Hwakfest > last year. > Try here for more information but its a bit out of date. > http://www.magickeye.com/astralasia.html > > Mark From drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM Sun Feb 23 19:16:24 2003 From: drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM (David Blair) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:16:24 +0000 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil In-Reply-To: <001b01c2db86$e927de80$5da86fd4@lucidzoo> Message-ID: In article <001b01c2db86$e927de80$5da86fd4 at lucidzoo>, Captain Bl at ck writes >This may seem a strange question, but what are Identimate & Mists of Meriden >like? > >I've never heard those. If you've got IE5.0 and Windows Media Player 7 or higher, you can get samples of them at http://entertainment.msn.com/Album/?album=125317# -- David Blair From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 24 04:00:05 2003 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:00:05 +0000 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil/Astralasia Message-ID: :-) If you want all the uptodate info on Astralasia and every release they've put out try: www.global-trance.co.uk This site is fantastic, not just for Astralasia but for most of the bands in the same Genre. Astralasia are superb, the 3 CDs to look out for are 'Pitched up at teh Edge of Reality','Whatever Happened to Utopia?' and 'Axis Mundi' They change style to more commercial stuff after 95/96 And also check out Banco De Gaia, who is likewise excellent. And has a remix CD coming out in May, due to contain a mix of a track called Soufie which Samples 'Xitintoday' by Sphynx. Rich W > from: Mark Von Bargen > date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:15:21 > to: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > subject: Re: HW:dusting off the vynil > > > [snip]> I was also impressed playing the Spirit of the age remixes, > especially the > > flesh to phantasy mix....Does anyone know anything about Astralasia? Who > are > > they? what other stuff have they done etc. > Astralasia started as an offshoot of the Magic Mushroom Band, I believe - a > techno/ambient friendly dance act. > They have released several albums and singles and played at the Hwakfest > last year. > Try here for more information but its a bit out of date. > http://www.magickeye.com/astralasia.html > > Mark From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 24 04:02:28 2003 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:02:28 +0000 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: Hey Andy, I thought it was 'Whatever Happened to Utopia?' that had the bonus CD Single ;-) Axis doesn't have one. Rich W > from: Andrew Garibaldi > date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:21:53 > to: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > subject: Re: HW:dusting off the vynil > > As far as I know - and apologies if not true to anyone else - we here are > the most up to date source for anything Astralasia related with CD singles > and albums in stock, including "Axis Mundi" CD still with the bonus CDEP and > last copies of "Uniweria Zekt" CD single!!! > All enquiries welcomed - all questions answered to best of ability. > Andy G. > deadearnest at btopenworld.com > agcdser at aol.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Von Bargen" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: HW:dusting off the vynil > > > > > > > [snip]> I was also impressed playing the Spirit of the age remixes, > > especially the > > > flesh to phantasy mix....Does anyone know anything about Astralasia? Who > > are > > > they? what other stuff have they done etc. > > Astralasia started as an offshoot of the Magic Mushroom Band, I believe - > a > > techno/ambient friendly dance act. > > They have released several albums and singles and played at the Hwakfest > > last year. > > Try here for more information but its a bit out of date. > > http://www.magickeye.com/astralasia.html > > > > Mark From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Feb 24 07:02:37 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:02:37 -0500 Subject: BOC/OFF: I'm on the Lamb mp3 Message-ID: A track of interest from the Mike Watt mailing list. >a new mp3 has been uploaded to wmamsf. >CHOP >"I'm on the Lamb But I Ain't No Sheep" >(Pearlman, A. Bouchard, Bloom) 1995 >Mike Watt- bass, singing >Dezo Cadenza- guit, singing >Dave Markey- drums, singing >Dave Peterson- Stun Bass, singing >Dave Travis- singing >go here: > >http://users.110.net/~brucesiart/watt From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Mon Feb 24 07:48:46 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:48:46 -0500 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: > Has Church ever been available on CD? Yeah, I've got one. I have to admit I don't play it much, it just never really caught my fancy.... From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Feb 24 08:42:41 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:42:41 -0000 Subject: BOC/OFF: I'm on the Lamb mp3 Message-ID: I'd like to hear this - anyone managed to find it on the site? Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: BOC/OFF: I'm on the Lamb mp3 > A track of interest from the Mike Watt mailing list. > > >a new mp3 has been uploaded to wmamsf. > >CHOP > >"I'm on the Lamb But I Ain't No Sheep" > >(Pearlman, A. Bouchard, Bloom) 1995 > >Mike Watt- bass, singing > >Dezo Cadenza- guit, singing > >Dave Markey- drums, singing > >Dave Peterson- Stun Bass, singing > >Dave Travis- singing > >go here: > > > >http://users.110.net/~brucesiart/watt > From _jt at COX.NET Mon Feb 24 07:56:40 2003 From: _jt at COX.NET (Jeff Thompson) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:56:40 -0500 Subject: BOC/OFF: I'm on the Lamb mp3 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20030224070237.00699738@acmenet.net> Message-ID: Richard Lockwood wrote: > I'd like to hear this - anyone managed to find it on the site? > Took me a while, too. Click on the fIREHOSE ticket stub at the bottom of the page. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 24 08:23:48 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:23:48 EDT Subject: EB's new guit. In-Reply-To: <3E5A1688.70603@cox.net> Message-ID: Click here to see EB's new Godzilla graphic guitar: http://hometown.aol.com/harpergtrs/index.html theo From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 24 09:24:01 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:24:01 +0800 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: Like others on here, I prefered the order of the tracks on the LP. One moment in particular on the LP that I loved was ruined by the alteration on CD (the bit with the watery sound & the instrumental. Was it Light Specific Data?) William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Apold" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:48 PM Subject: Re: HW:dusting off the vynil > > Has Church ever been available on CD? > > Yeah, I've got one. I have to admit I don't play it much, it just never > really caught my fancy.... > > From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 24 11:57:41 2003 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:57:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals Message-ID: 1. About 4-5. 2. Left late 1995 and came back 2000. 3. I liked the 90s output less and less and had been getting more into techno and electronica. 4. Got fed-up with short lived throw-away music and started to crave something more permanent again. Saw that Top 10 Prog Rock program on tv which brought all the old associations flooding back. Alastair. On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:50:12 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: >I've noticed that many Hawkwind fans are into the band for years, then go >off them completely, sometimes for years or even decades, before returning >to the fold. I'd like to ask list members if this applies to them, >particularly: > >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? >3) What made you leave? >3) What made you come back? > >The answers in my case would be 1) 15 years 2) 1982 - 1997 3) I wasn't >enjoying the new stuff they were doing, and 4) I went to a gig they played >near my house and got sucked back in! > > >Steve From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Mon Feb 24 14:22:59 2003 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:22:59 -0700 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: <200302241657.LAA05062@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: My answers are similar to Mike Montfort's. >1) How many years did you spend away from HW? 3 years >2) When did you leave and when did you come back? In '89, when I moved to Hawaii, where there were no record stores (and Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet) till '92 >3) What made you leave? I thought they had left me. When cd's were first coming out and there was limited production capacity, I figured they'd never make cd's of HW, and the vinyl bins were filled just with comp's. I assumed HW had faded away from the scene. >4) What made you come back? While flipping thru a rock encyclopedia at a store, looked up HW and saw the last line mentioned their latest release "Space Bandits." From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Feb 24 15:07:31 2003 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:07:31 -0500 Subject: HW:dusting off the vynil Message-ID: William wrote - > Like others on here, I prefered the order of the tracks on the LP. One >moment in particular on the LP that I loved was ruined by the alteration on >CD (the bit with the watery sound & the instrumental. Was it Light Specific >Data?) Light Specific Data is a great track - the beginning reminds me of oars going through water - a rowing boat. For some reason I always think of the opening lines to 'Lucy in the Sky...' Maybe that was the intention (L.S.D.) Without checking my old vinyl copy, I seem to remember the tracks on each side side of the LP were divided into 'space' and 'Fate', so it would have been better if the extra tracks were added on to the end as someone already suggested. Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Feb 24 15:31:05 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:31:05 +0000 Subject: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit Message-ID: boc-l, Back with a Vengeance in The Misfits!!! U CAN KALL ME "ELROD", PONCY GOOSE!!!! NOW SOMEBODY SPEAK TO ME. THE WIND BLOWS COLD ON THESE HERE CLIFFS OF MERIDIAN WHERE THE MISTS OF ASGARD BLOCKETH THINE SITE: HAIL MY HAWKWIND WEBSITE: http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html - *NOBODY* "GETS IT" IN SPACE TRAVEL..... SILLY KENIGGETTS!!! regards, -King A. Hawkwind Deadhead von Dragonlock (C. E. Mumford, und Crap Goth and und Undead Vampyre Skinhead) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Feb 24 15:54:19 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:54:19 -0000 Subject: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit Message-ID: Could you fuck off a bit quicker please Christian? Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:31 PM Subject: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit > boc-l, > Back with a Vengeance in The Misfits!!! U CAN KALL ME > "ELROD", PONCY GOOSE!!!! NOW SOMEBODY SPEAK TO ME. THE > WIND BLOWS COLD ON THESE HERE CLIFFS OF MERIDIAN WHERE > THE MISTS OF ASGARD BLOCKETH THINE SITE: HAIL > MY HAWKWIND WEBSITE: > http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html > - *NOBODY* "GETS IT" IN SPACE TRAVEL..... SILLY > KENIGGETTS!!! > > regards, > -King A. Hawkwind Deadhead von Dragonlock > (C. E. Mumford, und Crap Goth and und Undead Vampyre Skinhead) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Mon Feb 24 15:49:40 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:49:40 -0600 Subject: OFF:Testing Message-ID: Testing. From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Feb 24 16:16:29 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:16:29 +0000 Subject: OFF: recent CD acquisitions Message-ID: boc-l, These are all CD's I've gotten in the last month, a busy month indeed on the music front for me. I've added my commentary just a more pleasurable and informative effect when reading. :) Comments? Chr. (King A. Hawkwind Deadhead von Dragonlock) The Feud - Language Is Technology (excellent Canterbury style stuff, arty punk rock instrumentalism, got it from Jerry Kranitz, review coming up in next # of Aural Innovations) Gong - Zero To Infinity (hadn't heard this yet, finally got a CDR copy off a guy I know from radio, the first track is great so far) The Legendary Pink Dots - Live At The Metro (also a CDR copy off Jon Christian, I've been a fan of LPD for years and this Polish SPV release captures the band in fine form) Arnold Mathes - Amrak (killer punk synthesizer stuff I got from Jerry Kranitz, review coming up in next # of Aural Innovations) The Moor - Every Pixie Sells A Story (CDR I got from Jon Christian again, contains an excellent version of "Angels Of Death" - I saw The Moor and Nik Turner perform in Hamburg in 1998 with Scott Heller (and also got to meet his lovely wife Lani)) The Moor - Flux (w/Nik Turner) (another CDR copy I got from Jon Christian, because it's even got Nik Turner guesting on it, this was their second excellent album) Moreland Audio - Turbogold (got it from Jerry Kranitz, review coming up in next # of Aural Innovations, more arty punk instrumentalism) Ramones - Anthology (2CD collection spanning The Ramones career, had to get this after having dumped all my original Ramones CD's years ago - stuff like "53rd & 3rd", "Blitkrieg Bop", "Commando", "Sheena Is A Punk Rocker" and "Pet Sematary" are punk classics forever!) Saint Of Killers - Saint Of Killers (got it from Jerry Kranitz, review coming up in next # of Aural Innovations, urban jazz metal that sounds alot like Naked City to me...) Siemers - Inter Pares (another one from Jerry, and another review for AI. Excellent German noise/punk, and a great version of The Kinks "You Really Got Me" being the lost soundtrack to millions of moshing dead goths) Simple Minds - Real To Real Cacophony (early compilation, produced by John Leckie 1982, had to get this in the cheapie bin at the post office, excellent psychedelia in fact reminding me of Legendary Pink Dots) V.A. - Way Out North (CD that came with Norwegian music magazine Mute featuring Norwegian dub/jazz/arctic, with acts like Palace Of Pleasure, King Midas, Sternklang, T?yen, Rundfunk, Frost and many others. The track by AM and The UV is particularly worth the CD, being so sexy and mysteriously appealing) V.A. - Uncut/David Bowie -"Starman" (great compilation that came with Uncut with David Bowie covers, from Blondie, Christian Death, Culture Club, Black Box Recorder, Duran Duran, Peter Murphy, and Sigue Sigue Sputnik, The Gourds and many others, some great versions of classic Bowie tunes, especially the uplifting Blondie track) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Mon Feb 24 16:33:11 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:33:11 -0600 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, who would you choose? Rich W From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 24 16:00:35 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:00:35 -0500 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings Message-ID: >From CNN.com: > 'Elric Saga' fantasy series optioned > > Monday, February 24, 2003 Posted: 12:32 PM EST (1732 GMT) > > NEW YORK (Variety) -- Universal Pictures has joined in optioning "The Elric > Saga," a multi-part, Tolkein-esque fantasy series written by Michael Moorcock, > for development as a potential big-screen trilogy. > > The literary series began with 1972's "Elric of Melnibone." Universal's option > deal with production company Depth of Field covers 11 books -- the original > six installments of the series and five subsequent novels that touch on the > saga. > > The film adaptation, which will be produced but not written or directed by > Depth of Field partners Chris and Paul Weitz, is conceived as a potential > trilogy whose first installment will be culled from the series' first six > volumes. The producers plan to shop the book to writers and directors. > > The novels are sensual and atmospheric sword-and-sorcery tales that center on > Elric, a brooding albino warrior who presides over an unruly, decadent island > nation. The novels follow Elric on a series of adventures, in which he is > betrayed by his cousin, sent into exile and attempts to come to terms with his > own humanity. > > "We have loved this series since we were kids and can appreciate it even more > as adults. It's a sophisticated, literate, philosophically dense fantasy -- a > sort of 'Matrix' of the sword-and-sorcery genre," Chris Weitz said. > > Moorcock oversaw the sci-fi magazine New Worlds and helped usher in the "new > wave" sci-fi movement of the 1960s and '70s. He also performed in the British > hard rock band Hawkwind and will co-produce the movie project. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Copyright 2003 Reuters. All rights reserved. This material may not be > published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 24 16:39:41 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:39:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations In-Reply-To: <002501c2dc4c$552f1790$b87e353e@titan> Message-ID: > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, > who would you choose? Edgard Varese From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 24 16:38:51 2003 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:38:51 -0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind > to Collaborate with, who would you choose? > Rich W Jimmy Hendrix. Next question? jill From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Mon Feb 24 16:48:09 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:48:09 -0600 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings Message-ID: Hmm...do you think Peter Jackson is free. This would be incredible if it was done right, Moorcocks always held off because he thought it would get sucked into the hollywood machine and come out a dreadful mess. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings > From CNN.com: > > > 'Elric Saga' fantasy series optioned > > > > Monday, February 24, 2003 Posted: 12:32 PM EST (1732 GMT) > > > > NEW YORK (Variety) -- Universal Pictures has joined in optioning "The Elric > > Saga," a multi-part, Tolkein-esque fantasy series written by Michael Moorcock, > > for development as a potential big-screen trilogy. > > > > The literary series began with 1972's "Elric of Melnibone." Universal's option > > deal with production company Depth of Field covers 11 books -- the original > > six installments of the series and five subsequent novels that touch on the > > saga. > > > > The film adaptation, which will be produced but not written or directed by > > Depth of Field partners Chris and Paul Weitz, is conceived as a potential > > trilogy whose first installment will be culled from the series' first six > > volumes. The producers plan to shop the book to writers and directors. > > > > The novels are sensual and atmospheric sword-and-sorcery tales that center on > > Elric, a brooding albino warrior who presides over an unruly, decadent island > > nation. The novels follow Elric on a series of adventures, in which he is > > betrayed by his cousin, sent into exile and attempts to come to terms with his > > own humanity. > > > > "We have loved this series since we were kids and can appreciate it even more > > as adults. It's a sophisticated, literate, philosophically dense fantasy -- a > > sort of 'Matrix' of the sword-and-sorcery genre," Chris Weitz said. > > > > Moorcock oversaw the sci-fi magazine New Worlds and helped usher in the "new > > wave" sci-fi movement of the 1960s and '70s. He also performed in the British > > hard rock band Hawkwind and will co-produce the movie project. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Copyright 2003 Reuters. All rights reserved. This material may not be > > published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Mon Feb 24 16:49:57 2003 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:49:57 +0100 Subject: BOC: Black & Blue In-Reply-To: <20020716125236.14306.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Any news about this DVD? JCMoriaud, BOC fan from France! ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran?ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Feb 24 16:56:41 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:56:41 -0500 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings In-Reply-To: <003201c2dc4e$6cdd56c0$b87e353e@titan> Message-ID: cosmicdolphin wrote: > Hmm...do you think Peter Jackson is free. More importantly, is Edgar Winter? > This would be incredible if it was done right, Moorcocks always held off > because he thought it would get sucked into the hollywood machine and come > out a dreadful mess. The whole part about the first six volumes being turned into one movie doesn't make it sound too promising. But who knows? ;-) Part of the reason LotR has been excellent (IMO) is that New Line dared to make three movies, instead of the one or two that Miramax wanted to film. Even so, there's a lot in Tolkien's story that has been left out due to time constraints, as well as a few gratuitous changes to the storyline. I would imagine a movie reworking six novels would require some major "re-imagining." Brian From coral at APORT.RU Mon Feb 24 16:59:00 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:59:00 +0300 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: > > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind > > to Collaborate with, who would you choose? Ayreon Space Mirrors Dan Swano Johan Edlund (Tiamat) Alisa From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Mon Feb 24 17:05:39 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:05:39 -0600 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings Message-ID: Theres confirmation on Multiverse.org from Mike saying it's at the 'contract stage' and that theres no more information as yet. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings > cosmicdolphin wrote: > > > Hmm...do you think Peter Jackson is free. > > More importantly, is Edgar Winter? > > > This would be incredible if it was done right, Moorcocks always held off > > because he thought it would get sucked into the hollywood machine and come > > out a dreadful mess. > > The whole part about the first six volumes being turned into one movie > doesn't make it sound too promising. But who knows? ;-) > > Part of the reason LotR has been excellent (IMO) is that New Line dared to > make three movies, instead of the one or two that Miramax wanted to film. > Even so, there's a lot in Tolkien's story that has been left out due to time > constraints, as well as a few gratuitous changes to the storyline. I would > imagine a movie reworking six novels would require some major > "re-imagining." > > Brian From coral at APORT.RU Mon Feb 24 17:08:25 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 01:08:25 +0300 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings Message-ID: > Hmm...do you think Peter Jackson is free. Hope no Peter Jackson! He will ruin all! From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Mon Feb 24 17:15:45 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:15:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: >If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, who would you choose? > >Rich W hrm.... Roy Harper, I think. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 24 16:46:33 2003 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:46:33 -0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Bob Calvert:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: HW: Collaborations If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, who would you choose? Rich W From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Mon Feb 24 17:39:46 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:39:46 -0600 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: That's cheating Colin ;-) Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 3:46 PM Subject: Re: HW: Collaborations > Bob Calvert:) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cosmicdolphin" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:33 PM > Subject: HW: Collaborations > > > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate > with, who would you choose? > > Rich W From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 24 17:35:46 2003 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:35:46 EST Subject: EB's new guit. Message-ID: In a message dated 2/24/2003 9:24:56 AM US Eastern Standard Time, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: > Click here to see EB's new Godzilla graphic guitar: > > http://hometown.aol.com/harpergtrs/index.html > > Go, Go, Godzilla! Joe From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Feb 24 17:36:55 2003 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:36:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Syd Barrett.............. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, who would you choose? From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 24 17:42:53 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:12:53 +1030 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: I'd pick a living artist as the dead ones would make a great space deth metal stage show .... rotting corpses and all..... but the stench would be a problem thats a tough question tho. I'll think more about it. ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: HW: Collaborations If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, who would you choose? Rich W From piccallopaul at MSN.COM Mon Feb 24 17:45:59 2003 From: piccallopaul at MSN.COM (Paul Gartside) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:45:59 +0000 Subject: OFF:Testing Message-ID: >From: cosmicdolphin >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF:Testing >Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:49:40 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from cpimssmtpa65.msn.com ([207.46.181.145]) by >mc8-f18.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 24 Feb >2003 12:58:29 -0800 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu ([192.107.46.113]) by cpimssmtpa65.msn.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:52:13 -0800 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu (listserv at listserv.spc.edu >[192.107.46.113])by listserv.spc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SPC-4.1-NORELAY) with >ESMTP id PAA06584;Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:55:48 -0500 (EST) >Received: from LISTSERV.SPC.EDU by LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP >release 1.8d) with spool id 70451 for BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU; Mon, >24 Feb 2003 15:55:47 -0500 >Received: from mailgate.spc.edu (root at mailgate.spc.edu [192.107.46.158]) by > listserv.spc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SPC-4.1-NORELAY) with ESMTP id >PAA06482 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:45:46 >-0500 (EST) >Received: from mail.surfanytime.com (euw0800019.eu.verio.net >[81.25.194.15]) by mailgate.spc.edu (8.8.8/8.9.3/SPC-5.4-NORELAY) >with ESMTP id PAA27993 for ; Mon, 24 Feb >2003 15:45:41 -0500 (EST) >Received: from titan ([]) by mail.surfanytime.com (Merak 5.4.2) with SMTP >id MUN74094 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 >20:50:22 -0000 >X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== >X-MSN-Trace: {1F6370BD-DDD3-41BF-8358-9AF31F190DEE} >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >Message-ID: <001201c2dc46$415eaba0$b87e353e at titan> >Sender: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >Return-Path: owner-boc-l at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2003 20:52:13.0890 (UTC) >FILETIME=[9BC38A20:01C2DC46] > >Testing. 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Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk From kruch7 at COX.NET Mon Feb 24 18:08:07 2003 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Joseph Elric Smith Mormon minion of Arioch) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:07 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: You mean besides me? ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate > with, who would you choose? > > Rich W From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Feb 24 18:12:49 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:42:49 +1030 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings OFF Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings > > Hmm...do you think Peter Jackson is free. > > Hope no Peter Jackson! > > He will ruin all! :)) bad girl From piccallopaul at MSN.COM Mon Feb 24 18:22:58 2003 From: piccallopaul at MSN.COM (Paul Gartside) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:22:58 +0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Bloomdido Bad De Grass >From: Joseph Elric Smith Mormon minion of Arioch >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Collaborations >Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:07 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from cpimssmtpa56.msn.com ([207.46.181.132]) by >mc9-f2.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 24 Feb >2003 15:21:22 -0800 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu ([192.107.46.113]) by cpimssmtpa56.msn.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4453); Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:17:33 -0800 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu (listserv at listserv.spc.edu >[192.107.46.113])by listserv.spc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SPC-4.1-NORELAY) with >ESMTP id SAA08388;Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:41 -0500 (EST) >Received: from LISTSERV.SPC.EDU by LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP >release 1.8d) with spool id 70751 for BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU; Mon, >24 Feb 2003 18:08:41 -0500 >Received: from mailgate.spc.edu (root at mailgate.spc.edu [192.107.46.158]) by > listserv.spc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/SPC-4.1-NORELAY) with ESMTP id >SAA08381 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:40 >-0500 (EST) >Received: from lakemtao02.cox.net (lakemtao02.cox.net [68.1.17.243]) by > mailgate.spc.edu (8.8.8/8.9.3/SPC-5.4-NORELAY) with ESMTP id SAA03082 > for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:37 -0500 >(EST) >Received: from kenneith93j41k ([68.10.130.233]) by lakemtao02.cox.net > (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with SMTP id > <20030224230807.ONCC6744.lakemtao02.cox.net at kenneith93j41k> for > ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:08:07 -0500 >X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== >X-MSN-Trace: {0BF9CBED-2647-4E59-BE23-8E34DCE84C9E} >References: <002501c2dc4c$552f1790$b87e353e at titan> ><001901c2dc4e$329ceca0$883dfea9 at oemcomputer> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >Message-ID: <005d01c2dc59$97ae5560$6f7ba8c0 at kenneith93j41k> >Sender: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >Organization: Lord of the Seven Darks >Return-Path: owner-boc-l at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2003 23:17:33.0281 (UTC) >FILETIME=[E8ED0510:01C2DC5A] > >You mean besides me? >ken > >Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics >Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you >http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html > > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate > > with, who would you choose? > > > > Rich W _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Feb 24 18:26:15 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:26:15 -0000 Subject: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit Message-ID: Just block him. Its only through replies like this that I'm aware of his inane/insane ramblings. Ignore him. He really will go away. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: Re: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit > Could you fuck off a bit quicker please Christian? > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:31 PM > Subject: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a > little bit > > > > boc-l, > > Back with a Vengeance in The Misfits!!! U CAN KALL ME > > "ELROD", PONCY GOOSE!!!! NOW SOMEBODY SPEAK TO ME. THE > > WIND BLOWS COLD ON THESE HERE CLIFFS OF MERIDIAN WHERE > > THE MISTS OF ASGARD BLOCKETH THINE SITE: HAIL > > MY HAWKWIND WEBSITE: > > http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html > > - *NOBODY* "GETS IT" IN SPACE TRAVEL..... SILLY > > KENIGGETTS!!! > > > > regards, > > -King A. Hawkwind Deadhead von Dragonlock > > (C. E. Mumford, und Crap Goth and und Undead Vampyre Skinhead) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > From novadrive at COX.NET Mon Feb 24 18:35:28 2003 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 16:35:28 -0700 Subject: HW: Sputnik Stan's Robot helper? Message-ID: http://www.kmsb.com/technology/sci/KMSB_local_spacejunk_021903.25b32de7.html KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Mon Feb 24 18:50:43 2003 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:50:43 -0500 Subject: BOC: moe.news Message-ID: Tesla's Frank Hannon Joins moe. for "Godzilla" For the second time in a week, Tesla guitarist Frank Hannon took the stage with moe.; this time at Caesar's Stateline Showroom in Tahoe, NV. Hannon sat in for the encore, a cover of Blue Oyster Cult's "Godzilla." The guitarist was introduced to moe., through his father-in-law, Dickey Betts, last Saturday in Las Vegas when Betts jammed with the band at the House of Blues, for "Mexico," "Southbound" and "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed." The latter two songs also featured Phish bassist Mike Gordon. From mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK Mon Feb 24 18:39:29 2003 From: mark.von-bargen at O2.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:39:29 -0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, who would you choose? Rich W Neil Young and let's make it Blanga Fest. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 24 22:17:37 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:17:37 +0800 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings Message-ID: At one stage he thought Christopher Lee would be the ideal choise. Although he is a bit old now, maybe he could still do it in flashback sequences? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 5:56 AM Subject: Re: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings > cosmicdolphin wrote: > > > Hmm...do you think Peter Jackson is free. > > More importantly, is Edgar Winter? > > > This would be incredible if it was done right, Moorcocks always held off > > because he thought it would get sucked into the hollywood machine and come > > out a dreadful mess. > > The whole part about the first six volumes being turned into one movie > doesn't make it sound too promising. But who knows? ;-) > > Part of the reason LotR has been excellent (IMO) is that New Line dared to > make three movies, instead of the one or two that Miramax wanted to film. > Even so, there's a lot in Tolkien's story that has been left out due to time > constraints, as well as a few gratuitous changes to the storyline. I would > imagine a movie reworking six novels would require some major > "re-imagining." > > Brian > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Feb 24 22:18:44 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:18:44 +0800 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings Message-ID: How about Terry Gilliam instead? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:08 AM Subject: Re: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings > > Hmm...do you think Peter Jackson is free. > > Hope no Peter Jackson! > > He will ruin all! > > From davidhoward at XTRA.CO.NZ Mon Feb 24 23:20:28 2003 From: davidhoward at XTRA.CO.NZ (David Howard & Kim Pieters) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:20:28 +1300 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: John Cale, who could redevelop the role fulfilled by the late Robert Calvert. David Howard From Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 24 23:28:26 2003 From: Ilovemylife801 at AOL.COM (Dale K. Ford) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:28:26 EST Subject: Off: Damo Suzuki Message-ID: I saw Damo Suzuki with a Chicago space rock band called Defender at a bowling alley Saturday night. I have seen many shows including Gong, Hawkwind, U of Errors, Strawbs, Pressurehed, Turner...space rock, you get it. The emotion he showed on stage was more than my review could do justice. If you have a chance to see this tour...DO SO!!! Next to Patti Smith playing with the Stooges in Ann Arbor it was the best show I have seen in my life. If anyone has or could tell me where to get the out of print Network Box Set I will make it worth your while.... DAMO!!!!!!!!!, I love you. Dale From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Tue Feb 25 00:27:33 2003 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:27:33 -0500 Subject: Damo Suzuki Message-ID: Damo had it for sale at the show... must have sold all the copies by the end of the night though. I enjoyed the show immensely as well, except for the TERRIBLE guitar player in the backing band. I kept wishing someone would unplug him, as he contributed nothing but annoyance. Damo really was a remarkable performer, full of positive energy and good will--he seems to just radiate it! John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net > I saw Damo Suzuki with a Chicago space rock band called Defender at a bowling > alley Saturday night. I have seen many shows including Gong, Hawkwind, U of > Errors, Strawbs, Pressurehed, Turner...space rock, you get it. > > The emotion he showed on stage was more than my review could do justice. If > you have a chance to see this tour...DO SO!!! > > Next to Patti Smith playing with the Stooges in Ann Arbor it was the best > show I have seen in my life. > > If anyone has or could tell me where to get the out of print Network Box Set > I will make it worth your while.... > > DAMO!!!!!!!!!, I love you. > > Dale From dplaw at IC24.NET Tue Feb 25 02:15:45 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 02:15:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: good question, for me i think it would have to be a classic hawkwind line up together with primal scream, neil young lettin rip with some extra guitar and production by the chemical brothers, now that would make for interesting listening! From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Tue Feb 25 03:46:25 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:46:25 -0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Devin Townsend Andy G ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: HW: Collaborations If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, who would you choose? Rich W From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Tue Feb 25 05:24:51 2003 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Alistair Ogilvy) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 05:24:51 EST Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Aah! Who can ever replace Bob? (Speak his name with awe!) (What? ...Cawelvert?...) Ok sorry for crap joke. Seriously ,I'd like to give Julian Cope a try....A natural Hawkcollaborator if ever there was one (Check out his HeadHeritage site, (www.headheritage.com), or better still catch him live if you dont believe me !) Al From vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Feb 25 06:26:07 2003 From: vulcanfoundry at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Ben Fagin) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:26:07 +0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations In-Reply-To: <009c01c2dcb7$52b64cc0$d7737ad5@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: Mike Oldfield. On Tuesday 25 Feb 2003 08:46, you wrote: > Devin Townsend > Andy G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cosmicdolphin" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:33 PM > Subject: HW: Collaborations > > > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate > with, who would you choose? > > Rich W From kruch7 at COX.NET Tue Feb 25 06:35:33 2003 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Joseph Elric Smith Mormon minion of Arioch) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:35:33 -0500 Subject: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings Message-ID: No that would be interesting ken Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings > How about Terry Gilliam instead? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alisa" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: Elric to go the way of Lord of the Rings > > > > > Hmm...do you think Peter Jackson is free. > > > > Hope no Peter Jackson! > > > > He will ruin all! > > > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 25 06:43:06 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:43:06 +0800 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Steve Hillage > On Tuesday 25 Feb 2003 08:46, you wrote: > > Devin Townsend > > Andy G > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "cosmicdolphin" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:33 PM > > Subject: HW: Collaborations > > > > > > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate > > with, who would you choose? > > > > Rich W > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 25 06:52:51 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:52:51 GMT Subject: HW: Collaborations In-Reply-To: Dave Law's message of Tue, 25 Feb 2003 02:15:45 -0500 Message-ID: David Byrne. FoFP From iainferguson at AOL.COM Tue Feb 25 06:57:18 2003 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:57:18 +0000 Subject: Collaborations. Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 25 06:22:26 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 07:22:26 EDT Subject: BOC: Black & Blue In-Reply-To: <000901c2dc4e$aeb56b00$0100a8c0@maison> Message-ID: On 24 Feb 2003 at 22:49, Jean-Charles Moriaud wrote: > Any news about this DVD? > > JCMoriaud, BOC fan from France! > C'est foutu... theo From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Tue Feb 25 08:03:40 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:03:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: And of course, I should have to suggest the long-unfulfilled dream of this mailing list, and have them collaborate with Blue ?yster Cult. Actually, I guess if I had to limit it to just one...... oddly enough I'd pick Eric Bloom, I know he's no Buck or Al, but he always seemed very much into the sci-fi angle, and the hawks always seem to be looking for a front man and Eric does that terifficly. Plus, he has collaborated with Moorcock... From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Tue Feb 25 10:37:11 2003 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (=?iso-8859-1?q?JCMoriaud?=) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:37:11 +0100 Subject: BOC: Black & Blue In-Reply-To: <3E5B19B2.25711.C5437@localhost> Message-ID: What do you mean? Who canceled it? Why? When? ;-((( Ted Jackson wrote: C'est foutu... theo --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran?ais ! Testez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue Feb 25 10:37:42 2003 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:37:42 -0600 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Anyone mention John Lydon yet? From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Tue Feb 25 10:40:50 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (Tom Byrne) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:40:50 -0000 Subject: "Eleven Realms of Night" - Alien Dream Message-ID: I have just played Alien Dream's new album "Eleven Realms of Night" for the first time. Initial impressions - if you enjoy space rock, you will play this a lot. It reminds me a little of Dave Brock's solo stuff, Churh of Hawkwind & Memos and Demos. Lots of spacey guitar and bubbling synths, layeres textures and thoughtful solos. Well recommended for BOC-L buffs. Regards Tom From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Tue Feb 25 10:43:57 2003 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (Tom Byrne) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:43:57 -0000 Subject: "Eleven Realms of Night" - 2 Message-ID: Please excuse the typos - my hands are shaking so much from excitement my typing has gone to pot. Tom From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 25 09:46:21 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:46:21 EDT Subject: BOC: Black & Blue In-Reply-To: <20030225153711.36609.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 25 Feb 2003 at 16:37, JCMoriaud wrote: > What do you mean? Who canceled it? Why? When? ;-((( > Ted Jackson wrote: > C'est foutu... > Here's a quote from a guy who posted about it to the Buck Dharma forum: >From Classic Pictures and www.black-sabbath.com: "As It stands I would say It is cancelled whether is It permanent or not I am afraid I am not able to say - we would obviously still like to release the programme, however at present It does not look like this is going to be possible" Interpret that as you will... theo From denis at D-RIDER.DE Sun Feb 23 06:51:53 2003 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:51:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Blood Glucose Meter Message-ID: Hi, a friend of mine, who suffers from diabetes, asked me to forward a question regarding the blood glucose meter "One Touch Ultra Smart" made by Lifescan. She wants to know if this meter is already available in the US and she's also interested in its price. It would be very nice, and I (and she) would be very grateful, if one of our US-listmembers could get this information. thanks in advance & (c)IAO D+R From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Feb 25 11:49:10 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:49:10 -0500 Subject: OFF: Blood Glucose Meter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > She wants to know if this meter is already available in the US and > she's also interested in its price. She can order it online through sites listed here: http://www.lifescan.com/promotions/ordering.html It apparently will be sold at US pharmacies, but won't be available until next month. Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 25 10:48:28 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:48:28 EDT Subject: OFF: Blood Glucose Meter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 23 Feb 2003 at 12:51, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hi, > > a friend of mine, who suffers from diabetes, asked me to forward a > question regarding the blood glucose meter "One Touch Ultra Smart" > made by Lifescan. She wants to know if this meter is already available > in the US and she's also interested in its price. It would be very > nice, and I (and she) would be very grateful, if one of our > US-listmembers could get this information. > Is that the unit that B.B. King does an ad for? I know he's a diabetes patient, and he's on TV ads for a simpler testing aparatus. If so, then, yes, they're available here, but I don't know how much they cost. Here's a place that sells it: http://www.aeshme.com/diabeticindex.htm theo From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Feb 25 11:51:32 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:51:32 -0500 Subject: OFF: Blood Glucose Meter Message-ID: Hi Denis This device will become available from retail outlets in March 2003. See this page: http://www.lifescan.com/products/meters/ultrasmart.html Hope this helps Steve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:51:53 +0100, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: >Hi, > >a friend of mine, who suffers from diabetes, asked me to forward a >question regarding the blood glucose meter "One Touch Ultra Smart" >made by Lifescan. >She wants to know if this meter is already available in the US and >she's also interested in its price. >It would be very nice, and I (and she) would be very grateful, if one >of our US-listmembers could get this information. > >thanks in advance & (c)IAO > D+R From ben at TMK.COM Tue Feb 25 12:27:26 2003 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:27:26 -0500 Subject: ADMIN: Final words on this (again) Message-ID: Folks, I'm am about to (as moderator) allow a post from Christian in his own defense. As Christian says, I have placed Rich under review. I have done so because I'm getting tired of the endless sniping (or worse) on both sides in this forum. Likewise, I'm allowing the post because I do feel that Christian should be allowed at least one message in his own defense. I'd ask all parties to let this drop on the list. If you have issues with other folks, please keep it off-line. Similarly, I'd ask the others on the list to let Christian's message go without (public) comment, unless it's to praise his dedication to Hawkwind :-). If you have an unshakeable opinion of him, then it doesn't need to be aired on-list, and you can just as easily delete it sight-unseen. I am giving fair warning to everyone that I am disinclined to be nice about anyone who views this as an opportunity to jump on any of the assorted bandwagons. No further proseletyzing by either side, please. YHM, Ben From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Feb 25 11:52:27 2003 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:52:27 +0000 Subject: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit Message-ID: Nick Lee wrote: >Just block him. Its only through replies like this >that I'm aware of his >inane/insane ramblings. >Ignore him. He really will go away. Why should I go away? I've been on BOC-L on and off since 1996, been into HW since 1988 and my website is of merit to Hawkwind fans and collectors. FYI Rich Lockwood has already been put on review with the moderator of the list for swearing. It also insulted me greatly. He really can be an idiot and so can you, obviously. I suggest you try a little more openness and acceptance of other Hawkwind fans on the list before you fire your guns and act like snobs. Why Rich Lockwood's Jihad against me, branding me as "an evil man and a Nazi" has led to forms of harrassment and boycott from his end hasn't affected me or the rest of the list as much as his conscience as a fellow Hawkwind fan I am sure. I did not ramble, I was just being humorous. I am a Hawkwind fan and rock'n'roll warrior like the rest of you... Why be so snob about it. Is it something about the English perhaps. I emailed Lockwood that I was skin and if he has a problem with me then we can take it over a few beers and that I'd fight him if that need be. He may swear I am some kind of racist, and if so he exaggerates greatly to some extent. I've been through goth and heavy metal and don't care about anything else and am a Hawkwind fan to the end like the rest of you. I have expressed views as a skin, and if he swears I am a Nazi on the Hawkwind deadhead/Blue ?yster Cult list then the rest of the world may applaud me with another Hawkwind badge I suppose and I'd be a hero to the 60's. And no, I will stick around and tout my website as any proud Hawkwind fan would. Do you think my less than perfect english expression tarnishes my Norwegian heritage? Are you english so snobs with your language you don't accept anything but Shakespearian poetry? S*d off yourself! Chr. (-King A. Hawkwind Deadhead von Dragonlock) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: Re: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit > Could you fuck off a bit quicker please Christian? > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:31 PM > Subject: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit > > > > boc-l, > > Back with a Vengeance in The Misfits!!! U CAN KALL ME > > "ELROD", PONCY GOOSE!!!! NOW SOMEBODY SPEAK TO ME. THE > > WIND BLOWS COLD ON THESE HERE CLIFFS OF MERIDIAN WHERE > > THE MISTS OF ASGARD BLOCKETH THINE SITE: HAIL > > MY HAWKWIND WEBSITE: > > http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html > > - *NOBODY* "GETS IT" IN SPACE TRAVEL..... SILLY > > KENIGGETTS!!! > > > > regards, > > -King A. Hawkwind Deadhead von Dragonlock > > (C. E. Mumford, und Crap Goth and und Undead Vampyre Skinhead) > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 25 13:03:54 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:03:54 GMT Subject: HW: "Breaking The 'Wind" - Mine living Hawkwind Website has moved a little bit In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?='s message of Tue, 25 Feb 2003 16:52:27 +0000 Message-ID: =?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?= writes: > Do you think my less > than perfect english expression tarnishes my Norwegian > heritage? Are you english so snobs with your language > you don't accept anything but Shakespearian poetry? As it happens, Shakespeare (if he really wrote Shakespeare) couldn't spell. Anyway, you're entitled to your say. You're even as entitled to the rest of us to be on topic. You're even entitled if you really are a Nazi. I daresay Nazis can be Hawkwind fans too when they're not too busy invading Poland. My beef isn't with bad English usage. I'm sure your English beats my Norwegian. It's with the stream-of-conciousness mode of expression. Most people didn't even like it from Mike C, and he's way more popular than you are. My solution generally is to treat SoC bullshit the same way I do articles wrapped in HTML tags: ignore them by deletion. Basically I'd say if you want to contribute, you don't need perfect English, but you do need to bother to express yourself a little more clearly. FoFP From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Tue Feb 25 13:24:23 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:24:23 -0600 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: And the Results Sofar: Eat Static/Steve Hillage/Alex Patterson (Joint Effort) I'd like to hear this mix :-) Primal Scream/Neil Young/Chemical Brothers (Joint Effort) Jimi Hendrix Edgard Varese (Who?) Bob Calvert ??!! (Well yes we'd all love to see that) Ayreon Space Mirrors (Alisa) Dan Swano (Who?) Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) Roy Harper Syd Barrett Bloomdido Bad De Grass/Didier Malherbe - Gong Neil Young (Solo Effort) John Cale X 2 Devin Townsend (Who?) Mike Oldfield Steve Hillage (solo effort) David Byrne Blue Oyster cult John Lydon (I'm sure he'd be up for it) And I'll add my suggestions: Tangerine Dream (Pre 1987) Banco De Gaia Jarvis Cocker (Doing Vocals to Spirit of the Age/Quark/Jack of Shadows, then covering 'Starcruiser' and 'Brothel on the Rosenstrasse' by Moorcock) Face it - Starcruiser would be an instant chart hit ;-) Did I miss anyone? Rich W From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Feb 25 13:31:25 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:31:25 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations In-Reply-To: <000a01c2dcfb$1fadc8a0$527e353e@titan> Message-ID: cosmicdolphin wrote: > And the Results Sofar: > > Edgard Varese (Who?) Zappa was into him. He was the so called "father of electronic music." Here's a bit from http://csunix1.lvc.edu/~snyder/em/varese.html: > The most popular work by Varese at this time was Ionisation. (1929-31) which > introduced the siren as a musical instrument. With 37 percussion instruments > and two sirens, it was likened to "a sock in the Jaw." I always thought HW could have provided more structure (and/or blanga) to his madness, while Varese was a whiz with found sounds and blurts of odd electronic weirdness. Hence, the perfect HW collaboration. ;-) Brian From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 25 13:35:05 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 02:35:05 +0800 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Is there a record label named after him? > cosmicdolphin wrote: > > > And the Results Sofar: > > > > Edgard Varese (Who?) > > Zappa was into him. He was the so called "father of electronic music." > Here's a bit from > http://csunix1.lvc.edu/~snyder/em/varese.html: > > > The most popular work by Varese at this time was Ionisation. (1929-31) which > > introduced the siren as a musical instrument. With 37 percussion instruments > > and two sirens, it was likened to "a sock in the Jaw." > > I always thought HW could have provided more structure (and/or blanga) to > his madness, while Varese was a whiz with found sounds and blurts of odd > electronic weirdness. Hence, the perfect HW collaboration. ;-) > > Brian > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 25 13:37:23 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 02:37:23 +0800 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: How about Tristram Cary (did instrumental music for early Doctor Who, as well as the soundtrack to the Hammer film Quatermass & The Pit)! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:24 AM Subject: HW: Collaborations And the Results Sofar: Eat Static/Steve Hillage/Alex Patterson (Joint Effort) I'd like to hear this mix :-) Primal Scream/Neil Young/Chemical Brothers (Joint Effort) Jimi Hendrix Edgard Varese (Who?) Bob Calvert ??!! (Well yes we'd all love to see that) Ayreon Space Mirrors (Alisa) Dan Swano (Who?) Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) Roy Harper Syd Barrett Bloomdido Bad De Grass/Didier Malherbe - Gong Neil Young (Solo Effort) John Cale X 2 Devin Townsend (Who?) Mike Oldfield Steve Hillage (solo effort) David Byrne Blue Oyster cult John Lydon (I'm sure he'd be up for it) And I'll add my suggestions: Tangerine Dream (Pre 1987) Banco De Gaia Jarvis Cocker (Doing Vocals to Spirit of the Age/Quark/Jack of Shadows, then covering 'Starcruiser' and 'Brothel on the Rosenstrasse' by Moorcock) Face it - Starcruiser would be an instant chart hit ;-) Did I miss anyone? Rich W From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Feb 25 13:58:38 2003 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:58:38 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations In-Reply-To: <0c7301c2dcfc$a33fec60$0200a8c0@xl5> Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > Is there a record label named after him? There's Varese Sarabande ( http://www.varesesarabande.com ). I guess it's probably named after him. Brian From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Feb 25 14:17:01 2003 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:17:01 -0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: He lives in Australia now, and I believe he's not in the best of health. He sold all his EMS synths about two years ago, one of which was the very first VCS3 ever made - I had a look inside it once and it was all prototyped on Veroboard, in a black wooden case and a handwritten front panel. Still worked, too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: Collaborations > How about Tristram Cary (did instrumental music for early Doctor Who, as > well as the soundtrack to the Hammer film Quatermass & The Pit)! > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cosmicdolphin" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:24 AM > Subject: HW: Collaborations > > > And the Results Sofar: > > Eat Static/Steve Hillage/Alex Patterson (Joint Effort) I'd like to hear this > mix :-) > > Primal Scream/Neil Young/Chemical Brothers (Joint Effort) > > Jimi Hendrix > > Edgard Varese (Who?) > > Bob Calvert ??!! (Well yes we'd all love to see that) > > Ayreon > > Space Mirrors (Alisa) > > Dan Swano (Who?) > > Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) > > Roy Harper > > Syd Barrett > > Bloomdido Bad De Grass/Didier Malherbe - Gong > > Neil Young (Solo Effort) > > John Cale X 2 > > Devin Townsend (Who?) > > Mike Oldfield > > Steve Hillage (solo effort) > > David Byrne > > Blue Oyster cult > > John Lydon (I'm sure he'd be up for it) > > And I'll add my suggestions: > > Tangerine Dream (Pre 1987) > > Banco De Gaia > > Jarvis Cocker (Doing Vocals to Spirit of the Age/Quark/Jack of Shadows, then > covering 'Starcruiser' and 'Brothel on the Rosenstrasse' by Moorcock) > > Face it - Starcruiser would be an instant chart hit ;-) > > Did I miss anyone? > > Rich W From coral at APORT.RU Tue Feb 25 14:50:58 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:50:58 +0300 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: >Dan Swano (Who?) Swedish singer and instrumentalist, the best his project is prog/gothic rock Nightingale. >Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) No, it is gothic metal right now with a lot of electronics. Alisa From coral at APORT.RU Tue Feb 25 15:00:43 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:00:43 +0300 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: >Devin Townsend (Who?) Industrial/prog/rock experiments. From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Tue Feb 25 15:10:36 2003 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:10:36 -0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Hawkwind harnesed to the overwhelming power of this guy would be an awesome spectacle with enough electrical guitar energy to feed the National Grid for months - see his solo album "Terria" or if you want to blown away by the greatest squall of wall-to-wall rock, then the new Strapping Young Lad album, his group, is proof enough - sadly the Hawks could not contain this without exploding so it will remain a pipedream - lol Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: HW: Collaborations And the Results Sofar: Devin Townsend (Who?) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 25 15:20:34 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:20:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:20:28 +1300, David Howard & Kim Pieters wrote: >John Cale, who could redevelop the role fulfilled by the late Robert >Calvert. ... and both recorded solo albums backed by Brian Eno (among others), who would be my choice for this thread ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From gg at NINJANET.COM Tue Feb 25 15:49:28 2003 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:49:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Collaborations In-Reply-To: <000a01c2dcfb$1fadc8a0$527e353e@titan> Message-ID: cosmicdolphin wrote: > Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) not at all, a sort of gothic metal... abyway, i would like to vote the Voivod (this is death metal that in the last album touched some psychedelia), Lemmy (yaaaa! :)) ), the LedZeppelin of the earliest albums, and finally this grat band i discover some days ago: Mudlin of the Well: http://www.maudlinofthewell.com/ ! Listen to the samples! ciao!, gg From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Feb 25 17:39:01 2003 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:39:01 -0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: How about Al Jourgenson from ministry? that would be cool colm ----- Original Message ----- From: "cosmicdolphin" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: HW: Collaborations And the Results Sofar: Eat Static/Steve Hillage/Alex Patterson (Joint Effort) I'd like to hear this mix :-) Primal Scream/Neil Young/Chemical Brothers (Joint Effort) Jimi Hendrix Edgard Varese (Who?) Bob Calvert ??!! (Well yes we'd all love to see that) Ayreon Space Mirrors (Alisa) Dan Swano (Who?) Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) Roy Harper Syd Barrett Bloomdido Bad De Grass/Didier Malherbe - Gong Neil Young (Solo Effort) John Cale X 2 Devin Townsend (Who?) Mike Oldfield Steve Hillage (solo effort) David Byrne Blue Oyster cult John Lydon (I'm sure he'd be up for it) And I'll add my suggestions: Tangerine Dream (Pre 1987) Banco De Gaia Jarvis Cocker (Doing Vocals to Spirit of the Age/Quark/Jack of Shadows, then covering 'Starcruiser' and 'Brothel on the Rosenstrasse' by Moorcock) Face it - Starcruiser would be an instant chart hit ;-) Did I miss anyone? Rich W From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 25 17:47:50 2003 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:47:50 -0000 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: Watching their live video years back, am I the only one who see's the HW resemblance (video screen at back and Biaffra doing a great Calvert type poetry recital). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colm McWilliams" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: Re: HW: Collaborations > How about Al Jourgenson from ministry? > > that would be cool > > colm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cosmicdolphin" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:24 PM > Subject: HW: Collaborations > > > And the Results Sofar: > > Eat Static/Steve Hillage/Alex Patterson (Joint Effort) I'd like to hear this > mix :-) > > Primal Scream/Neil Young/Chemical Brothers (Joint Effort) > > Jimi Hendrix > > Edgard Varese (Who?) > > Bob Calvert ??!! (Well yes we'd all love to see that) > > Ayreon > > Space Mirrors (Alisa) > > Dan Swano (Who?) > > Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) > > Roy Harper > > Syd Barrett > > Bloomdido Bad De Grass/Didier Malherbe - Gong > > Neil Young (Solo Effort) > > John Cale X 2 > > Devin Townsend (Who?) > > Mike Oldfield > > Steve Hillage (solo effort) > > David Byrne > > Blue Oyster cult > > John Lydon (I'm sure he'd be up for it) > > And I'll add my suggestions: > > Tangerine Dream (Pre 1987) > > Banco De Gaia > > Jarvis Cocker (Doing Vocals to Spirit of the Age/Quark/Jack of Shadows, then > covering 'Starcruiser' and 'Brothel on the Rosenstrasse' by Moorcock) > > Face it - Starcruiser would be an instant chart hit ;-) > > Did I miss anyone? > > Rich W From joe.e at TELIA.COM Tue Feb 25 18:31:09 2003 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlund) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:31:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: At 22:50 2003-02-25 +0300, you wrote: >>Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) > >No, it is gothic metal right now with a lot of electronics. > >Alisa Are you sure? .joe From coral at APORT.RU Tue Feb 25 18:52:10 2003 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 02:52:10 +0300 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: > At 22:50 2003-02-25 +0300, you wrote: > >>Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) > > > >No, it is gothic metal right now with a lot of electronics. > Are you sure? Maybe you will tell? :) Alisa From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 25 20:01:53 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:01:53 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: I DO NOT ENDORSE THIS SUGGESTION! But on another mailing list I'm on (which has nothing to do with Hawkwind. Or Avril.), someone wrote: >Where's the Avril LAvigne and hawkwind supergroup LP? Couldn't be any worse than Samantha Fox, I guess ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Feb 25 20:15:58 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:45:58 +1030 Subject: "Eleven Realms of Night" - Alien Dream Message-ID: Hey Tom, Now if I could only have Dave Brock to do the vocal bits....... I'd be wrapped and I'd have a re-release asap haha cheers man, --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Byrne To: Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:10 AM Subject: "Eleven Realms of Night" - Alien Dream I have just played Alien Dream's new album "Eleven Realms of Night" for the first time. Initial impressions - if you enjoy space rock, you will play this a lot. It reminds me a little of Dave Brock's solo stuff, Churh of Hawkwind & Memos and Demos. Lots of spacey guitar and bubbling synths, layeres textures and thoughtful solos. Well recommended for BOC-L buffs. Regards Tom From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Wed Feb 26 04:18:26 2003 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:18:26 +0100 Subject: Sputnik Stan's Robot helper? Message-ID: Kevin forwards... > http://www.kmsb.com/technology/sci/KMSB_local_spacejunk_021903 > .25b32de7.html Of course, the perfect name for this project, esp. if championed by NASA, aka the National Association for the Suggestion of Acronyms, is "Space-Trash Accumulation Nexus." Too easy, really... Grakkl (FAA) From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Wed Feb 26 04:50:34 2003 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 04:50:34 -0500 Subject: Robert Calvert: Interview transcription help needed Message-ID: Hello all, Several months ago I contacted Knut Gerwers regarding the disappearance of his Spirit Of The Page web site dedicated to Robert Calvert. I offered to host it on the Aural Innovations site which Knut eagerly accepted. However, he felt strongly that the site needed updating before reappearing and has been trying to fit these updates into his busy schedule. After some months of silence I received an email from Knut this week saying he's still committed to seeing the site back online. But it's been a slow process getting the updates ready and he is wondering if someone might be able to assist in transcribing extensive interviews with Nik Turner and Jill Calvert. If a couple of dedicated fans have the time and interest in undertaking such a task, Knut would provide the audio tapes. If anyone thinks they could commit to this project please contact me off list at jkranitz at aural-innovations.com. Anyone who was familiar with the Spirit Of The Page site will agree that not only is it a valuable resource but one of the best examples of an information packed web site on the internet. Thanks!! Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 26 06:59:48 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:59:48 GMT Subject: HW: Collaborations In-Reply-To: Captain Bl@ck's message of Tue, 25 Feb 2003 19:17:01 -0000 Message-ID: Captain Bl at ck writes: > > Eat Static/Steve Hillage/Alex Patterson (Joint Effort) I'd like to hear > this > > mix :-) > > > > Primal Scream/Neil Young/Chemical Brothers (Joint Effort) > > > > Jimi Hendrix > > > > Edgard Varese (Who?) > > > > Bob Calvert ??!! (Well yes we'd all love to see that) > > > > Ayreon > > > > Space Mirrors (Alisa) > > > > Dan Swano (Who?) > > > > Johan Edlund - Tiamat (I'm guessing Death Metal?) > > > > Roy Harper > > > > Syd Barrett > > > > Bloomdido Bad De Grass/Didier Malherbe - Gong > > > > Neil Young (Solo Effort) > > > > John Cale X 2 > > > > Devin Townsend (Who?) > > > > Mike Oldfield > > > > Steve Hillage (solo effort) > > > > David Byrne > > > > Blue Oyster cult > > > > John Lydon (I'm sure he'd be up for it) > > > > And I'll add my suggestions: > > > > Tangerine Dream (Pre 1987) > > > > Banco De Gaia > > > > Jarvis Cocker (Doing Vocals to Spirit of the Age/Quark/Jack of Shadows, > then > > covering 'Starcruiser' and 'Brothel on the Rosenstrasse' by Moorcock) > > > > Face it - Starcruiser would be an instant chart hit ;-) > > > > Did I miss anyone? Osama Bin Laden? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 26 07:02:45 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:02:45 GMT Subject: Sputnik Stan's Robot helper? In-Reply-To: Henderson Keith's message of Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:18:26 +0100 Message-ID: Henderson Keith writes: > Kevin forwards... > > > http://www.kmsb.com/technology/sci/KMSB_local_spacejunk_021903 > > .25b32de7.html > > Of course, the perfect name for this project, esp. if championed > by NASA, aka the National Association for the Suggestion of > Acronyms, is "Space-Trash Accumulation Nexus." It all sounds a bit improbable to me. Surely the deltavee involved in changing orbit to grab some new piece of junk would make this fuctionally a one-shot probe. Personally I suspect this is just the Shape-Changing-Fractal-Robots guy in a new incarnation. OTOH, there was a paper about using giant spun-up mirrors to slow the small particles of space junk enough to have them hit atmospheric drag. The small particles are the most numerous, and the ones that NASA and Noraid can't track. FoFP From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Feb 26 09:51:30 2003 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 22:51:30 +0800 Subject: HW: Collaborations Message-ID: > > > Did I miss anyone? > > Osama Bin Laden? > Doing one or two tracks from Quark, Strangeness & Charm (I think we know which ones!). William From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Feb 26 10:18:54 2003 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:18:54 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkfest site Message-ID: Hello folks! We are currently planning Hawkfest 2. We are looking at a number of sites. Ideally, we would like to hire a disused campsite (or one that we could completely take over for a about 5 days in July or August) or find a Stately Home which is used to hosting events, e.g. Cricket St Thomas (which unfortunately is not available) . If anyone on the list has any suggestions or knows of a suitable site, please email me off list at camping at hawkwind.org.uk Thanks Kris From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 26 12:15:09 2003 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:15:09 -0500 Subject: OFF: Faust in The Wire Message-ID: For anyone who is interested I just noticed that there is a major article on the history of Faust in the March edition of The Wire. Alastair. From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Wed Feb 26 13:04:02 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:04:02 -0600 Subject: HW: Moorcock Films Message-ID: While I was ratching through the net for more news about the Elric Movie, I cam e accross a link to a film that was never completed called GROUP 65. Featuring Moorcock and other writers plus Mervyn Peakes daughter. Does anyone know anything more about this, I was completely unaware of it until now. Here's the link with some excellent photos, and a cameo by a very young Terry Pratchett. http://www.novymir.com.au/terminalcafe/group65.html Also: While searching the net for more info on Group 65 I came accross something else: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0275941 A Film/TV Production called 'Asylum' circa 2000, does anyone know anything at all about this? If youknow anything tell all. Rich W From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Wed Feb 26 13:57:43 2003 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:57:43 -0000 Subject: HW: HW on UK BBC Radio Two tonight Message-ID: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/inside/rock_doc.shtml Part of a series called Monsters Of Rock. On at 10pm UK time. HW mentioned as being on tonights show in some form. Si The Alice Cooper Trivia File: www.sickthingsuk.co.uk UK Unofficial Alice Cooper Convention: www.sickcon.co.uk From andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG Wed Feb 26 15:02:11 2003 From: andrew at SILVERWATER.ORG (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:02:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Moorcock Films Message-ID: Well, given how that Warhol film went... From cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET Wed Feb 26 15:44:40 2003 From: cosmicdolphin at FIREFLYUK.NET (cosmicdolphin) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:44:40 -0600 Subject: HW: Moorcock Films Message-ID: Moorocock was in a Warhol film?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Apold" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Moorcock Films > Well, given how that Warhol film went... From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Feb 26 19:04:57 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:04:57 -0500 Subject: BOC: Fire of Unkown ClassicTrax.. Message-ID: http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/classic%20trax%20boc.htm Albert went song-by-song and put some As to Qs. J ---------------------------------------------------- "Visit Capital.NET online at http://www.capital.net" From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Feb 26 19:18:35 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:18:35 -0500 Subject: BOC: "we run in circles, our days are Werman..." Message-ID: >From an interview with THE tom werman of Mirrors fame: Jeb: Another album that you did that I just love is Blue Oyster Cult?s Mirrors. Tom: Mirrors is an interesting album. That was Blue Oyster Cult?s experimental album. I have not listened to that in a long time. They did some cool stuff. Eric Bloom was pretty disgusted with that album. Jeb: He has told me that he thought it was too pop. Tom: Because of that he didn?t do too many of the vocals. Buck does most of the vocals on that record. Bloom got Dr. Music and a couple more but Buck did the good stuff. Jeb: How is he to work with? Tom: He is the best. I remember laughing till I lost control. He was so funny when he got behind the microphone. We had a great time. I also enjoyed Allen Lanier. I was always sorry that the album didn?t do better. ---------------------------------------------------- "Visit Capital.NET online at http://www.capital.net" From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Feb 26 20:22:42 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:52:42 +1030 Subject: Bill & Cynthia Message-ID: So Billy Bob? What is this leaf thing that I'm supposed to be a part of? Haven't had a reply from you about it nor anything in the mail so I am starting to think the tree and all its twigs are a fallacy? Just curious.... ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Feb 26 20:31:23 2003 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:31:23 -0500 Subject: BOC: "what songs are currently in the setlist?" Message-ID: answering that question, in the boc webpage "faq" The set list changes from time to time. As of March 2001, these songs have been recently played live: An excellent chance of hearing: Burnin' For You, Godzilla, Cities on Flame, E.T.I, (Don't Fear) The Reaper, The Old Gods Return, Pocket, Buck's Boogie, Joan Crawford, Last Days Of May, Harvester Of Eyes, Dominance & Submission. A very good chance of hearing: Stairway to the Stars, ME 262, Teen Archer, Astronomy, Dance on Stilts, Eye of the Hurricane, Unknown Tongue, The Vigil, Golden Age of Leather, Subhuman, Before the Kiss, Red & The Black, This Ain't the Summer of Love. You may hear: OD'd On Life, Career Of Evil, Flaming Telepaths, Lips in the Hills, Veteran of the Psychic Wars, Take Me Away, Live For Me, I'd Like to See You in Black, Harvest Moon, I Just Want To Be Bad. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Feb 26 21:28:49 2003 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:28:49 -0500 Subject: HW: Mudhoney & Earthlab Message-ID: On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:32:39 -0000, Dave Bottomley wrote: >Folks might like to know that this month's Mojo magazine comes with a free >CD featuring 26 'punk' bands, amongst which is Mudhoney's version of Urban >Guerilla from a John Peel session sometime last year. Great! Thanks, MOJO! I've been waiting to hear this for the year or so it's been their standard encore. Picked up a copy last night, and I gotta say that it's a very good version (but I've also been a Mudhoney fan since 1988, so I *would* say that). Of course, the credits in the magazine are incorrect (surprise, surprise) with no mention of Robert Calvert's contribution to the composition ... oops! Of course, that may be because Mark Arm mangles the lyrics a bit (just a bit, not as severly as Nik doing "Steppenwolf" or Alan singing the same verse three times on "Ejection"). >Not a bad CD all round, as it happens - preceding track is the >Only Ones' wonderful 'Another Girl, Another Planet'. Great song! And the successive track is the original version of "Neat Neat Neat", definitely another winner. (However, leaving the Pagans, the Germs, and the Misfits off a list of the "50 best punk albums" is as inexcusable as including great non-punk bands like Television, Devo, and Sonic Youth on said list.) >For BOC-ers, the mag also includes a feature on the making of the >Clash's 'Give 'Em Enough Rope' which was, of course, produced >by Sandy Pearlman. And for people who don't like punk rock or BOC, there's an interview with Roger Waters (he mentions he wouldn't recognize a Clash song if he heard one on the radio). NOW, when's there gonna be a Sex Pistols live-cash-in album with their version of "Silver Machine"? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 27 07:35:21 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:35:21 +0800 Subject: Bill & Cynthia Message-ID: Hi Mikey Wikey lol No, just been very busy with work etc. It will be coming your way soon. I'll get it off to you sometime next week. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cpt Blue Skin" To: Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: Bill & Cynthia So Billy Bob? What is this leaf thing that I'm supposed to be a part of? Haven't had a reply from you about it nor anything in the mail so I am starting to think the tree and all its twigs are a fallacy? Just curious.... ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 27 07:46:33 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:16:33 +1030 Subject: Bill & Cynthia offfff Message-ID: Mikey Wikey??? wtf hhahahahha ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: Re: Bill & Cynthia > Hi Mikey Wikey > > lol > > No, just been very busy with work etc. It will be coming your way soon. > I'll get it off to you sometime next week. > > Cheers > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:22 AM > Subject: Bill & Cynthia > > > So Billy Bob? What is this leaf thing that I'm supposed to be a part of? > Haven't had a reply from you about it nor anything in the mail so I am > starting to think the tree and all its twigs are a fallacy? > > Just curious.... > > ----------------------------------- > Cpt Blue Skin > http://www.alien-dream.com > (Alien Dream) > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 27 08:01:54 2003 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:01:54 +0800 Subject: Bill & Cynthia offfff Message-ID: I just realised this was sent via BOC-L. I should have put some HW content in and said, I'm "On The Case." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cpt Blue Skin" To: Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Bill & Cynthia offfff > Mikey Wikey??? wtf > hhahahahha > > ----------------------------------- > Cpt Blue Skin > http://www.alien-dream.com > (Alien Dream) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill & Cynthia" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:05 PM > Subject: Re: Bill & Cynthia > > > > Hi Mikey Wikey > > > > lol > > > > No, just been very busy with work etc. It will be coming your way soon. > > I'll get it off to you sometime next week. > > > > Cheers > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:22 AM > > Subject: Bill & Cynthia > > > > > > So Billy Bob? What is this leaf thing that I'm supposed to be a part of? > > Haven't had a reply from you about it nor anything in the mail so I am > > starting to think the tree and all its twigs are a fallacy? > > > > Just curious.... > > > > ----------------------------------- > > Cpt Blue Skin > > http://www.alien-dream.com > > (Alien Dream) > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 27 08:06:56 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:36:56 +1030 Subject: Bill & Cynthia offfff Message-ID: on a case of VB would be allright by me :) ----------------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin http://www.alien-dream.com (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:31 PM Subject: Re: Bill & Cynthia offfff > I just realised this was sent via BOC-L. > > I should have put some HW content in and said, I'm "On The Case." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: Bill & Cynthia offfff > > > > Mikey Wikey??? wtf > > hhahahahha > > > > ----------------------------------- > > Cpt Blue Skin > > http://www.alien-dream.com > > (Alien Dream) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill & Cynthia" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:05 PM > > Subject: Re: Bill & Cynthia > > > > > > > Hi Mikey Wikey > > > > > > lol > > > > > > No, just been very busy with work etc. It will be coming your way soon. > > > I'll get it off to you sometime next week. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cpt Blue Skin" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:22 AM > > > Subject: Bill & Cynthia > > > > > > > > > So Billy Bob? What is this leaf thing that I'm supposed to be a part > of? > > > Haven't had a reply from you about it nor anything in the mail so I am > > > starting to think the tree and all its twigs are a fallacy? > > > > > > Just curious.... > > > > > > ----------------------------------- > > > Cpt Blue Skin > > > http://www.alien-dream.com > > > (Alien Dream) > > > > > > From Jason.Scruton at DFA.STATE.NY.US Thu Feb 27 10:47:01 2003 From: Jason.Scruton at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:47:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Radio Birdman, in car commercials appear Message-ID: Had the TV on while reading last night, and in the middle of a voiceover about low rates for APR financing , I hear... "ay ay yup! Really gonna rock tonight!" When I think of Radio Birdman's war against the jive, Toyota is not the first thing that comes to mind. Since I like RB more than I like the Clash - and this very issue came up on other lists around said band, and the Who too - I've only started to think about it now. Does the artist/writer of the tunes always have to give consent to the use of their material in ads, or can it sometimes up to the Co. that publishes the tunes, regardless of the performer's aye or nay? Jason From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 27 10:01:48 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:01:48 EDT Subject: OFF: Radio Birdman, in car commercials appear In-Reply-To: <6258238B31F8F041AEA921331091F0A6020FD856@exchsen0a1md.dfa.state.ny.us> Message-ID: On 27 Feb 2003 at 10:47, Scruton, Jason wrote: > Had the TV on while reading last night, and in the middle of a > voiceover about low rates for APR financing , I hear... > > "ay ay yup! Really gonna rock tonight!" > > When I think of Radio Birdman's war against the jive, > Toyota is not the first thing that comes to mind. > Yeah, I hear ya, but the residuals on Radios Appear can only take ya so far... > Since I like RB more than I like the Clash - Why not, RB's a far better group... and this > very issue came up on other lists around said band, and the Who > too - I've only started to think about it now. > Esp. considering that only 1/2 of the band can vote on such decisions? Did you see the article in Rolling Stone [yeah, I know!] by John Densmore on attempts to get Doors music into commercials? Great stuff. He's a class act, and his article only make me admire Morrison more... > Does the artist/writer of the tunes always have to give > consent to the use of their material in ads, > or can it sometimes up to the Co. that publishes the tunes, > regardless of the performer's aye or nay? > It's only up to the 'owner' of the song. Do you think Fogerty gave his permission to use his tunes in ads when he won't get anything for it? Just twisting the knife again! But yes, the owner has to give permission, otherwise the song can't be used... theo From dplaw at IC24.NET Thu Feb 27 11:21:29 2003 From: dplaw at IC24.NET (Dave Law) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:21:29 -0500 Subject: HW: HW on UK BBC Radio Two tonight Message-ID: show was broadcast last night 10.00 gmt, hawkwind mentioned about 6mins into show, standard lemmy and silver machine stories, can still be accessed the web at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio2_aod.shtml?musicseries cheers dave From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Thu Feb 27 11:35:10 2003 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:35:10 +0000 Subject: OFF: Radio Birdman, in car commercials appear Message-ID: theo writes (regarding songs used in commercials) It's only up to the 'owner' of the song. Do you think Fogerty gave his permission to use his tunes in ads when he won't get anything for it? Just twisting the knife again! But yes, the owner has to give permission, otherwise the song can't be used... IIRC Lemmy fell foul of this when 'Ace of Spades' was used in a commercial here in England for Pot Noodles (!). I got the impression Lemmy couldn't stop it, but I may be wrong. Cheers Neil. From Frank.Weil at MOTOROLA.COM Thu Feb 27 12:18:36 2003 From: Frank.Weil at MOTOROLA.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:18:36 -0600 Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed Message-ID: I closed my Golden Void web site today (www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void). I haven't updated it in a few years, and I finally gave in to the reality that my two very young children, my wife, and my increased job responsibilites have to take precedence in my life. I'm sure that a lot of what I had on my site is available on many of your web sites, and I doubt anyone here will shed a tear (or even notice?) that it is gone. I was rather proud, though, of the then-up-to-date database of concerts, songs, band members, instruments, etc. If anyone really cares, I still have all the data, and I would be happy to send it. My plan is to resurrect the site one day, but make it much easier to maintain. I'll probably build a database of the information I have and generate all the pages with Perl scripts. This is, however, most definitely not a near-term plan. (Sigh) I still read this list, though, so don't count me out as dead! :-) Frank From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 27 13:01:38 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:01:38 -0500 Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed In-Reply-To: ; from Frank.Weil@MOTOROLA.COM on Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:18:36AM -0600 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:18:36AM -0600, Frank Weil wrote: > I closed my Golden Void web site today (www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void). > I haven't updated it in a few years, and I finally gave in to the reality > that my two very young children, my wife, and my increased job > responsibilites have to take precedence in my life. The Void no longer speaks to me Accepting my reality Once the project was sublime But I no longer have the time (With thanks to www.rhymezone.com for "sublime" :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 27 13:04:42 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:04:42 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: <200302170635.29532.vulcanfoundry@blueyonder.co.uk>; from vulcanfoundry@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK on Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 06:35:29AM +0000 Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 06:35:29AM +0000, Ben Fagin wrote: > Note: I used to sell all my records to The Record & Tape Exchange in Notting > Hill Gate, then buy the back soon after. Oh, so those were *yours* :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 27 14:38:43 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:38:43 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: <20030217201647.82356.qmail@web80402.mail.yahoo.com>; from alankerren@YAHOO.CO.UK on Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 08:16:47PM +0000 Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 08:16:47PM +0000, Alan Linsley wrote: > Aug 97 - Nik guests on US gigs inc Strange Daze? Certainly Strange Daze! I don't think Nik guested with HW at the others, though I could be wrong. > 1998 - bugger all > > 1999 - was this the year Brock & Tree were denied > access to US? So Rizz, Jerry & Richard did the gig > with Steve Taylor & others from ALien Planetscapes. "We are the ones who are left." That was 1998 -- the last time, I believe, that any entity calling itself "Hawkwind" has played in North America (unless there was a show in Cleveland the Sunday night of the fest weekend, as often happened). Pressurehed closed on the Friday. At SD'99, Nik headlined, backed by Farflung as in 1997 -- after Tommy and Len had led off as a duet with a (too-)short set of Anubian Lights trance. B0rn to G0 stepped bravely into the Friday headline spot after the original closer cancelled, and the replacement, without even the courtesy of a phone call, simply failed to show up. For SD2K it was Harvey Bainbridge, doing his solo thing. Daevid Allen headlined the Friday night with his University of Errors project. 2001 had Mr. Quimby's Beard closing. Nik headlined the Friday night, with a pick-up band. (Harvey also played, just before MQB as I recall. Nik sat in -- and was surprisingly well behaved ego-wise, perhaps having gotten that out of his system the night before :-). -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 27 14:56:20 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:56:20 -0500 Subject: HW: Sabbaticals In-Reply-To: <200302201424.JAA00908@listserv.spc.edu>; from nickmedford@HOTMAIL.COM on Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:24:37AM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:24:37AM -0500, nickmedford at HOTMAIL.COM wrote: > [...] the comparisons became > inevitable, because after a while Ron's role seemed to be restricted to > singing the Calvert songs. I don't think this did Ron any favours. A trap Arthur Brown also seems in danger of falling into. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 27 16:07:40 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:07:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed In-Reply-To: <20030227130138.A12627@telepres.com>; from erics@telepres.com on Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 01:01:38PM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 01:01:38PM -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:18:36AM -0600, Frank Weil wrote: > > I closed my Golden Void web site today > > The Void no longer speaks to me > Accepting my reality > Once the project was sublime > But I no longer have the time Down a bucket of old bits, Will it ever get more hits? Is there something wrong with me? Wait -- my youngest has to pee. (Ok, I'll shut up now. If anyone wants to tackle the second verse, you're welcome to it :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Feb 27 16:29:47 2003 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:29:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Frank I am very sorry you are going to close your site It was a very informative one. Unfortunately it was not updated very often Maybe you can give most of the pages to Steve Youles (Starfarer). I am very sure that your pages will find a good home there Bernhard All the best for you At 11:18 27.02.2003 -0600, you wrote: >I closed my Golden Void web site today (www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void). >I haven't updated it in a few years, and I finally gave in to the reality >that my two very young children, my wife, and my increased job >responsibilites have to take precedence in my life. > >I'm sure that a lot of what I had on my site is available on many of your >web sites, and I doubt anyone here will shed a tear (or even notice?) that >it is gone. I was rather proud, though, of the then-up-to-date database of >concerts, songs, band members, instruments, etc. If anyone really cares, I >still have all the data, and I would be happy to send it. My plan is to >resurrect the site one day, but make it much easier to maintain. I'll >probably build a database of the information I have and generate all the >pages with Perl scripts. This is, however, most definitely not a near-term >plan. (Sigh) > >I still read this list, though, so don't count me out as dead! :-) > >Frank > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Feb 27 20:28:19 2003 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Cpt Blue Skin) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:58:19 +1030 Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed Message-ID: Hi Frank, Sorry to hear you are closing shop. But I respect your reaosns for doing so. Bravo. However, if you would like to keep the spirit of your site alive by sending me any bits an peices I will gladly splice it into my fan site - the Electric Tepee.(with credits to your self etc) email me if it interests you. michael_1968 at ozemail.com.au Cheers mate. --------------------------- Cpt Blue Skin (Alien Dream) ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Weil To: Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:48 AM Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed > I closed my Golden Void web site today (www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void). > I haven't updated it in a few years, and I finally gave in to the reality > that my two very young children, my wife, and my increased job > responsibilites have to take precedence in my life. > > I'm sure that a lot of what I had on my site is available on many of your > web sites, and I doubt anyone here will shed a tear (or even notice?) that > it is gone. I was rather proud, though, of the then-up-to-date database of > concerts, songs, band members, instruments, etc. If anyone really cares, I > still have all the data, and I would be happy to send it. My plan is to > resurrect the site one day, but make it much easier to maintain. I'll > probably build a database of the information I have and generate all the > pages with Perl scripts. This is, however, most definitely not a near-term > plan. (Sigh) > > I still read this list, though, so don't count me out as dead! :-) > > Frank From youless at LVCM.COM Thu Feb 27 22:41:02 2003 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 22:41:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed Message-ID: Hi Frank I'm sorry to see it go, but the reasons are sound. So the Golden Void joins the ranks of the gone-but-not-forgotten Hawkwind sites (Sonique, Spirit of the (P)age, Welcome To The Future, Sonique, Hawkwind Space College, Mike's Photograficals, NovaDrive, Andy Cobley's Sonic Attack...among others). I hope to see at least some of them make a comeback - they were all good. Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:18:36 -0600, Frank Weil wrote: >I closed my Golden Void web site today (www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 28 06:43:12 2003 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:43:12 GMT Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed In-Reply-To: Eric Siegerman's message of Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:07:40 -0500 Message-ID: Eric Siegerman writes: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 01:01:38PM -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:18:36AM -0600, Frank Weil wrote: > > > I closed my Golden Void web site today > > > > The Void no longer speaks to me > > Accepting my reality > > Once the project was sublime > > But I no longer have the time > > Down a bucket of old bits, > Will it ever get more hits? > Is there something wrong with me? > Wait -- my youngest has to pee. Inspired! Truly inspired! > (Ok, I'll shut up now. If anyone wants to tackle the second > verse, you're welcome to it :-) So you get a page at last Who said the internet was fast? Providing info was my role Now I'm spooning from a bowl I see clouds and open skies But deal with wind and watering eyes The sounds are pitched to drive you nuts Yes parenting takes some guts It takes some guts... It takes some guts... From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 28 06:15:52 2003 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:15:52 EDT Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed In-Reply-To: <200302281143.LAA23807@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > I closed my Golden Void web site today > > > > > > The Void no longer speaks to me > > > Accepting my reality > > > Once the project was sublime > > > But I no longer have the time > > > > Down a bucket of old bits, > > Will it ever get more hits? > > Is there something wrong with me? > > Wait -- my youngest has to pee. > I guess you know that in nursing language void is the technical term for peeing? theo From HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM Fri Feb 28 08:07:28 2003 From: HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM (Dave Hess) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:07:28 EST Subject: Strange Daze 99 Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 08:16:47PM +0000, Alan Linsley wrote: >1999 - was this the year Brock & Tree were denied > access to US?? So Rizz, Jerry & Richard did the gig > with Steve Taylor & others from ALien Planetscapes. It was 1998 No one from Alien Planetscapes played with Hawkwind that night the keyboard player was Steve Hayse from Star Nation and Sun Machine I I /\\ /I /\ /--l--I\ I I---\ I-- I---\ I------I /----\\ /\ / I/ \ /\ / I I \ I I I I- I I I I/ \\/ \/ I \ \/ \/ --I--I \I I__/ I_ I__/ From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Fri Feb 28 09:14:29 2003 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:14:29 +0100 Subject: BOC: Black & Blue In-Reply-To: <3E5B497C.10614.C70334@localhost> Message-ID: Too bad, at least BOC had a chance to get some exposure in the press... Really a shame. Hope they release it some time though. Cheers. JCMoriaud > -----Message d'origine----- > De : BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] De la part de Ted Jackson > Envoy? : mardi 25 f?vrier 2003 15:46 > ? : BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Objet : Re: BOC: Black & Blue > > > On 25 Feb 2003 at 16:37, JCMoriaud wrote: > > > What do you mean? Who canceled it? Why? When? ;-((( > > Ted Jackson wrote: > > C'est foutu... > > > Here's a quote from a guy who posted about it to the Buck > Dharma forum: > > From Classic Pictures and www.black-sabbath.com: > "As It stands I would say It is cancelled whether is It > permanent or not I am afraid I am not able to say - we would > obviously still like to release the programme, however at > present It does not look like this is going to be possible" > > > Interpret that as you will... > > theo > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran?ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Feb 28 13:33:40 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:33:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Golden Void web site closed In-Reply-To: <3E5F0CA6.32294.420B6@localhost>; from tojackso@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU on Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:15:52AM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:15:52AM -0400, Ted Jackson wrote: > I guess you know that in nursing language void is the technical term for peeing? I was *so* not thinking of that. Cool! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Feb 28 15:06:28 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:06:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Collaborations In-Reply-To: <002501c2dc4c$552f1790$b87e353e@titan>; from cosmicdolphin@FIREFLYUK.NET on Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 03:33:11PM -0600 Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 03:33:11PM -0600, cosmicdolphin wrote: > If you could pick any artist(living or dead) for Hawkwind to Collaborate with, who would you choose? Spacehead. Oh wait, that's happened already, kind of. Ok, how about Grenas & Del Rio (whatever name they're using at the moment)? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Feb 28 18:40:47 2003 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 23:40:47 -0000 Subject: Conwy Island High pics Message-ID: Just as a matter of interest, does anyone want to see about 80 pics of the Bunny Babies, Alien Planetscapes and Hawkwind from Coney Island High? They're rubbish pics, but someone might want to see them. (And having said that, I can't post them until after we move anyway, so it'll be mid-March before I can do anything with them, as they're all boxed up ready for the move) And hey, like it matters, because Ben probably won't let me post this anyway. Because I'm an anti-nazi. Cheers, Rich. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Feb 28 20:38:25 2003 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:38:25 -0500 Subject: HW:Andy G at CD Services In-Reply-To: <021c01c2db91$d85cdaa0$e1147ad5@dial.pipex.com>; from Deadearnest@BTOPENWORLD.COM on Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 11:18:15PM -0000 Message-ID: On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 11:18:15PM -0000, Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > and it all started because of the Melodic Energy Commission!! But > that's another story...... Do tell... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / A distributed system is one on which I cannot get any work done, because a machine I have never heard of has crashed. - Leslie Lamport From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Fri Feb 28 22:16:41 2003 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 22:16:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Questions...... Message-ID: Hey Now! First off, thanx for the link to the classic rock website w/ the interview w/ Al. It's a really cool site w/ great interviews! And now, some questions..... Recently someone mentioned a magazine w/ a bonus CD that has someone covering a Hawkwind tune...... I thought for sure that it was MOJO..... Am I wrong?? I went to Barnes & noble today and the MOJO has Santana on the cover and no CD.... HELP! Also, I got a DVD player about a month ago and just got paid..... At Best Buy, I saw a copy of the Motorhead Anniversary DVD from the Brixton Academy. I have been in a Motorhead mood since ready Lemmy's book. Could someone post their thoughts of this DVD? Taking a break from studying and it's time for "Rust Never Sleeps"...... Have a Grateful Day! D - so it was me on the mic, Dave Murray on guitar, and we would do "Silver Machine" by Hawkwind, because that was 3 chords and it was easy. Adrian Smith - Iron Maiden