From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 1 00:17:45 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 00:17:45 EDT Subject: OFF: Stirring up more Unwanted Negative Controversy Message-ID: I am trying to get an image of Xtian in my mind at that point in his life..... hmmmmmm... I would have got new friends - fuckin hell angels can suck my d**k before I THROW AWAY my Hawkwind collection - !! In a message dated Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:20:31 AEDT, Chuck Rosenberg writes: > ---Hi, X-tian, if you're reading this. Hi, BOC-L. Maybe I'm being paranoid, > or did the fact that I was born of Ashkenazic Jews genetically inspire such > outrageous behaviour of selling half my HW/Related collection?? At least I > didn't bow to pressure from Hells' Angels (ha, ha, this _IS_ funny, X-tian!, > ya know we Jews do have a great sense of humour...it's genetic, ya know). > Tain't had nothin' to do w/paying' the bills and being stone broke. And I did > burn it all to CD-R, so at least I can inspire a few local SoCalifornians to > occasionally buy that HW CD they just might spot... Better than letting it > rot in some Norwegian dumpster, for the rats and stray moose to gnaw on (we > KNOW you didn't really do this, X-tian, question is: do you??). Rosenberg > > PS: What's Jewish about trading a CD of Pressurehed's "Sudden Vertigo" for a > badly-dubbed 90-minute Norwegian-Radio Shack cassette of Legendary Pink Dots)? > NP: Ashqelon Quilt (Blasphemic Islamic Israeli Biker Hippy Nazi Jew Psyche > Band) > > > >>> > Hell's Angels kept fucking with me over me being a deadhead in > Hawkwind since my mid-teens, saying I was some kind of stupid hippy > kid for being such a massive Hawkwind deadhead, so I just decided to > throw everything away after several months of harrassment, keeping > some bootlegs even though I even tossed all my Hawkwind t-shirts and > some of my rather hot memorabilia like rare tickets and patches. > Rather that than sell it all and be a jew about it. I am still a fan > though, and you can see some of my Hawkwind collection up at > > http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html > > Christian > > crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake > speedfreak Front 242: take a walk > > Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 1 02:46:31 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 07:46:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: John Otway 1 hit wonder no more Message-ID: Hopefully some of you on this list will find the following e mail useful andhelp John to get his birthday wish Hi - Richard Cotton here, from John's office. Otway is busy on the road - in fact as I write he's in Northallerton with the band - probably about to half way through the set! His laptop is down, so he's asked me to update you with a couple of bits of late news. I hope you will forgive my intrusion - but John does want to keep you all up to date, especially if you aren't on the snail-mail list. We may find out a 'mid-week' figure - where we actually stand in the charts at around the middle of the week. We will try to pass this on next week (although we not sure we're supposed to!) News: - More In-Stores Booked - The Otway Hit Express Train - Palladium - still some seats left - but we want YOU there, because you knew Otway when he was a one hit wonder! - How we're shaping up - in case you were wondering. 1. MORE IN-STORES We have added Thursday and Friday (four NEW in-stores) to our in-store tour - the Hit release week now looks like this: MON 30th - HIT RELEASE DAY Sheffield - after the Sunday gig at Midnight in HMV - signing and 'first-day-cover' stamping of the first copies of the Hit! Aylesbury (HMV) - signing and first day cover stamping 12.30pm (Otway Express Train leaves 2.30 Aylesbury - arrives 3.30 Marylebone) London - Virgin Megastore, Oxford Street. MAIN EVENT - 7.00 - Live show and signing / first day cover stamping. (Note: there will also be a quick live set at the Megastore for the news TV cameras at 4.15pm if you are around?) TUES 1- Virgin Bristol - 12.00pm (live and signing) / Virgin Oxford - 5.15pm (signing) WED 2 - Virgin Birmingham - 1.00pm (signing) / Virgin Coventry 5pm (live and signing) EVE GIG: Coventry Spencer Club (02476 674107) THURS 3 - Virgin BRIGHTON 12.30pm (signing) / Virgin CAMBRIDGE 5.00-ish (live and signing) FRI 4 - Virgin CHELTENHAM 12.00 (ish) (signing) / Virgin SWINDON (signing) 5.00- ish p.m. (Please note: In-store times may vary a little due to the hectic nature of the week - if you are travelling far it may be wise to check) SUNDAY 6 - THE LONDON PALLADIUM - (Still some tickets left- see below) 2. "THAT TRAIN...that Bloody train..."? Things are going so well it is really exciting now, and on Monday we will have five TV crews clamouring for pictures of John arriving in London on a special train laid on by Chiltern Railways for the occasion. Marked "Otway Hit Express" on the front plate, the train arrives at Marylebone Station to face the national press at 3.30pm. Anyone fancying the ride with John - or who fancies being on the telly - can join us as that train, that bloody train... leaves Aylesbury Station at 2.30pm after the Aylesbury HMV in-store signing. On the train (while it goes chuff, chuff chuff down the track...) will be Billy from the Otway Hit Squad. Some time ago, when his partner Catherine raised the subject of marriage at an Otway gig Billy apparently said "I will marry you when Otway gets another Hit" - thinking he was safe as houses. Of course he has now accepted his fate and will be getting down on one knee to see if she says "yes" in front of the Otway Hit Express (and the national press) at Marylebone Station. If you cant make Aylesbury - you will be very welcome at Marylebone to offer them best wishes and witness the train's arrival (to the sound of the Hit over the station tannoy! 3. HOW'S HIT GOING? Fantastic! We are all flat out and very excited. There is loads of media stuff, you would have to be on Mars to not have seen something by the end of next week. The media are really catching on now and it looks way bigger than they expected - the only worry is whether the shops will get enough stocks in to cover just how big demand is becoming. We will do very well - but we actually think it might go a lot further than the stocks will allow. We have pressed loads more up - but we cant make them take them until they see what happens as Monday starts - and re-order.... We already have some good levels of stock in HMV and Virgin. But they haven't taken quite as much as we hoped just yet. They want to see if there really is decent interest in the single early - before they stock-up properly. We couldn't convince them.... But we know some people who can! So - please get in there early? - it will really help! If you do, they will stock up - and we'll not only have a Hit, but a bloody great big one. I hate to bang on - but this is on, it really is! And Top Of The Pops have said if we do well enough - they will have Otway on TOTP - live! On-line sales? If the shops simply run out - give them hell - but you can get it on-line. Please DON'T get it from Amazon (it won't count for the charts). We are only sure of HMV sales counting for the chart - so go to HMV on-line if you need to? We know that HMV on-line sales all the way up to Saturday night at midnight, count for the Sunday chart. Mainly: 'BUY EARLY!' Please? Buy early - on Monday if you possibly can? - we need the shops to take more stock! My Prediction? Everyone asks me this! I will tell you what I do know: On Monday? - we will be Number One. Really! And we should hang on in there for at least all of Monday - with the in-stores and the early push we hope will happen. By the end of the week? I just don't know! Somewhere between No.1 - and No. 30 of course, or I quit this business! It all depends - and ANYTHING is possible. One thing we do know is that last week, we weren't even taken seriously. This week? We seem to have an awful lot of new friends..... We daren't tempt fate - but there are people out there who are starting to talk about chart positions a bit higher than No. 27. A minor miracle is now realistically on the cards and I can't tell you how much we are all ****ing ourselves....! One thing I do know: They don't know what we know - it's personal! The power of a determined bunch of people to see a real star back in the charts is huge. Most of what is happening really is because we're all doing our bit with a vengeance. You lot are quite stunningly good at this! MEDIA SUCCESS: OTWAY TV: - We should be on TOTP2 on Wednesday this week - We will be on Central TV on Monday - We had London Tonight last Wednesday - We have had Yorkshire TV this week - Look out for probable: Sky News, Celebrity Extra (!)... and more we hope, soon! ***** Request the video if you can? Some channels allow this - and we just finished one off - it's really great - thanks to Steve Barker - who sorted it all out for a pint and a bag of chips. A definite must-see. OTWAY RADIO: -We had given up on being playlisted at Radio 2 - but suddenly, as it is kicking off - they have now put Bunsen Burner on the official Radio 2 play list. Now we will get more plays on top of Johnnie Walker and Steve Wright's support - Otway is thrilled - he's never been playlisted before! -Rumours abound that Mark Radcliffe will spin us on Monday on Radio 1 too (after much fan-pressure) -Perhaps Chris Moyles will too - if he thinks people would like to hear it? -Loads of local stuff - largely due to the great tireless work of the Hit squad. Is your local station playing the Hit? -Steve Wright and Johnnie Walker have both had John in for a chat now on their peak time shows - as has Nicky Cambell on Radio 5 Live. OTWAY PRESS: The Independent On Sunday (tomorrow) is doing a feature on Otway - check the review section. The Guardian is covering the Hit with piece on Wednesday, we have been told. There are bits in The Express and other papers coming up too. Oh, and we had a cool ad in the Independent today. POSTERS: Spot the posters in London - nice big 60x40 inchers (please don't nick them until after Sunday?) THE PALLADIUM: I have met lots of people who assume this is sold out, and it isn't. Since we can sell out venues like the Albert Hall with twice the seats that makes sense - but it actually isn't yet! There is still time, so please don't miss this show - you will kick yourself! Lets all find a pub to listen to the chart run-down in nearby - any suggestions? Must hold a couple of thousand people and have a pretty good transistor radio, of course... Paul who promotes the Palladium actually still has a couple of hundred tickets left - which can only be down to people assuming it is sold out as far as I am concerned. We really would rather they went to the real fans. So -rumours of the show being sold out are actually not true! (see the text from the promoter below for more details). Fingers crossed! Hope to see many of you on a train or in a store next week - and of course - next Sunday (but don't expect me to be sober that night, I don't think it is very likely). Cheers! Richard Cotton pp. John Otway _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Oct 1 03:12:46 2002 From: djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (King of Comedy) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 03:12:46 -0400 Subject: off:Daevid Allen's University of Errors surprise gig Message-ID: STOP PRESS!!!!!! Daevid Allen's University of Errors will be playing an impromptu set at The George Hotel, in Buxton, Derbyshire, England, on Thursday 3rd October!!!!!!!! Yes! This Thursday coming! Be there, or be damp. From micci at SCI.FI Tue Oct 1 03:12:24 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:12:24 +0300 Subject: HW: 4 new re-issues AND New Member In-Reply-To: <17w2V5-28t1MWC@fwd09.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: Hi! At 17:24 30.9.2002 +0200, you wrote: > >spirit of the age >06.12.71 ??? >If you have more questions please feel free to ask > >cheers >Bernhard From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Oct 1 11:53:13 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:53:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: 18 Days and Counting So Who's going? And which pub are we going to descend on? Rich W :-) From Mahkno at AOL.COM Tue Oct 1 13:17:16 2002 From: Mahkno at AOL.COM (Mahkno nestor) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:17:16 EDT Subject: HW: Motorhead Message-ID: In a message dated 01/10/2002 00:09:53 GMT Daylight Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > Was it long enough ago that Hawkwind was the headliner? (Didn't Motorhead > open on one of the '77 tours?) > certainly played birmingham with motorhead as support around that time though cant be sure itwas 77- motorhead had bomber whose sole contribution was to turn its propellers now and again in particularly unconvincing manner only other thing I reacall was HW playing uncle sams on mars - first time I heard it. Mahkno From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Tue Oct 1 13:40:55 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Squirrel of the Age) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:40:55 -0400 Subject: HW: 4 new re-issues AND New Member Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:12:24 +0300, Miikka Wagner wrote: >> >spirit of the age >>06.12.71 > >??? This is Bob Calvert reciting a bit of poetry over some spacy Del/DikMik noises. The words were later used in the song 'Spirit of the Age' - on Orgasmatron it's listed as 'Starfarer's Despatch'. Stephan From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Oct 1 13:52:19 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:52:19 -0400 Subject: HW: 4 new re-issues AND New Member In-Reply-To: <200210011740.NAA22070@listserv.spc.edu>; from stemfors@PIPELINE.COM on Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:40:55PM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:40:55PM -0400, Squirrel of the Age wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:12:24 +0300, Miikka Wagner wrote: > >> >spirit of the age > >>06.12.71 > > > >??? > > This is Bob Calvert reciting a bit of poetry over some spacy Del/DikMik > noises. The words were later used in the song 'Spirit of the Age' - on > Orgasmatron it's listed as 'Starfarer's Despatch'. Yah, the Spirit of the Age lyrics are basically a couple of repurposed Calvert poems. Here's the story, as Aural Innovations tells it: > "The Starfarer's Despatch" was performed as a spoken piece by > Calvert with Hawkwind in late 1971, at the beginning of his > performing career with them - it was then dropped until late > 1976 when together with the Clone's Poem and the added line > "it's the shape of things to come" it was played briefly as a > song on a UK tour. By the time of its appearance on the album > Quark, Strangeness and Charm, the chorus and the title had > become "(It's The) Spirit Of The Age". -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The acronym for "the powers that be" differs by only one letter from that for "the pointy-haired boss". From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 1 14:00:42 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:00:42 -0400 Subject: HW: 4 new re-issues AND New Member Message-ID: Starfarers Dispatch was the original poem that evolved into the song. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Squirrel of the Age" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:40 PM Subject: Re: HW: 4 new re-issues AND New Member > On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:12:24 +0300, Miikka Wagner wrote: > >> >spirit of the age > >>06.12.71 > > > >??? > > This is Bob Calvert reciting a bit of poetry over some spacy Del/DikMik > noises. The words were later used in the song 'Spirit of the Age' - on > Orgasmatron it's listed as 'Starfarer's Despatch'. > > Stephan From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Oct 1 14:20:48 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:20:48 -0400 Subject: BOC: ericbloom.net Message-ID: >From the official site: > September 25, 2002 > > Eric Bloom will be unveiling his new Official Website in sometime in October. > (Launch date to be announced). > > ericbloom.net This is interesting. I wonder if he'll be putting out his own demos, side projects, etc.? A gallery of sunglasses he's worn live would be fun. I always thought he should try to get a sponsorship deal with some sunglass manufacturer like they do with their instruments. "Black Diamond, the official sunglasses of Blue Oyster Cult's Eric Bloom." ;-) Or Ray Ban could create BOC-themed mirror shades called Harvester of Eyes, or X-Ray Eyes or Eyes on Fire. Anyway, it should be interesting to see what info, exclusives, contests the new site offers. Brian NP> Stalk-Forrest Group, "Ragamuffin Dumplin'" From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 1 15:38:33 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:38:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley In-Reply-To: <3478272.1033487593087.JavaMail.root@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: Count me in, although I haven't got a ticket yet as I was waiting for somebody to answer the post that asked for info about the seating. May just go for a standing ticket, probably easier. Any Lahndon geezers know a decent Wembley pub? AL --- Rich Warren wrote: > 18 Days and Counting > > So Who's going? > > And which pub are we going to descend on? > > Rich W :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 1 15:55:48 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:55:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: Decent Wembley pub? An oxymoron! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Linsley" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Wembley > Count me in, although I haven't got a ticket yet as I > was waiting for somebody to answer the post that asked > for info about the seating. May just go for a > standing ticket, probably easier. Any Lahndon geezers > know a decent Wembley pub? > > AL > > --- Rich Warren wrote: > > 18 Days and Counting > > > > So Who's going? > > > > And which pub are we going to descend on? > > > > Rich W :-) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Oct 1 19:01:42 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:01:42 EDT Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: For all you bastards who think I have nothing to contribute ...blow me! http://www.rathergood.com/vikings/ bill From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 1 19:49:37 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:49:37 -0400 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: Thats Fantastic, although I thought they were whispering tales of THOR, not gore. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: off:Check this out > For all you bastards who think I have nothing to contribute ...blow me! > > > http://www.rathergood.com/vikings/ > > bill From waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Oct 1 19:53:40 2002 From: waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Laura Waesche) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 18:53:40 -0500 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: Hubby and kids rather enjoyed it. Not sure if the cats did though. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: off:Check this out > For all you bastards who think I have nothing to contribute ...blow me! > > > http://www.rathergood.com/vikings/ > > bill From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Tue Oct 1 19:51:18 2002 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 00:51:18 +0100 Subject: off:Check this out In-Reply-To: <73.26bad12b.2acb8356@aol.com> Message-ID: Magnificent! On 1 Oct 2002 at 19:01, Bill Stewart wrote: > For all you bastards who think I have nothing to contribute ...blow me! > > > http://www.rathergood.com/vikings/ > > bill From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Oct 2 02:48:26 2002 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 01:48:26 -0500 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: Hope that was not meant to say that Led Zeppelin or Vikings, for that matter, were pussies! That would be blasphemy! Nice work, and entertaining, however! From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Oct 2 06:56:09 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 06:56:09 EDT Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: In a message dated Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:02:46 AEDT, Bill Stewart writes: > For all you bastards who think I have nothing to >contribute ...blow me! I'm only into chicks man. But if you wanna contribute - send all large sums of money to this email address Cheers From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Oct 2 15:04:55 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:04:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website In-Reply-To: <000201c26a0e$9f1a9100$1f02a6cb@default> Message-ID: Hi Allan I would recommend As Above So Below. It took a few plays to really grow on me. Perhaps it doesn't all reach the high standard of Vision Quest but it's still worth getting. Some of the guitar reminds me of FastEddie-era Motorhead, although this is p'raps not suprising for a band that doubles as a Motorhead tribute act. I've not heard the live CDR though. Almost as good as the new John Otway single...;-) AL --- Allan Sharpe wrote: > G'day all > > If I was to buy one of the bedouin CD's, which one > would be the best. I > really enjoy the longer style tracks that the Hawks > have produced > (Psychedelic Warlords...etc) & quite enjoy many of > Motorhead's chunkier > tracks (Killed by Death...etc)...& you just gotta > love Hassan I Sahba. > > I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. > > Looks like only 2 CD's are available "Live & Beyond" > & "As Above So Below". > > MP3 version of Vision Quest is not too bad. > > Thanks > > Allan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > Cheers man, Exellent web site and regarding the > merchandise...... I want > one of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! > > > > > The NEW Bedouin Website is now online, with band > profiles, > > > discographies, picture galleries, gig listings > and merchandise.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Oct 2 15:45:07 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:45:07 -0400 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: I thought the live one wasn't available yet. Anyone know different? Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Linsley" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > Hi Allan > > I would recommend As Above So Below. It took a few > plays to really grow on me. Perhaps it doesn't all > reach the high standard of Vision Quest but it's still > worth getting. Some of the guitar reminds me of > FastEddie-era Motorhead, although this is p'raps not > suprising for a band that doubles as a Motorhead > tribute act. I've not heard the live CDR though. > > Almost as good as the new John Otway single...;-) > > AL > --- Allan Sharpe wrote: > G'day > all > > > > If I was to buy one of the bedouin CD's, which one > > would be the best. I > > really enjoy the longer style tracks that the Hawks > > have produced > > (Psychedelic Warlords...etc) & quite enjoy many of > > Motorhead's chunkier > > tracks (Killed by Death...etc)...& you just gotta > > love Hassan I Sahba. > > > > I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. > > > > Looks like only 2 CD's are available "Live & Beyond" > > & "As Above So Below". > > > > MP3 version of Vision Quest is not too bad. > > > > Thanks > > > > Allan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:52 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > Cheers man, Exellent web site and regarding the > > merchandise...... I want > > one of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > The NEW Bedouin Website is now online, with band > > profiles, > > > > discographies, picture galleries, gig listings > > and merchandise.... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET Wed Oct 2 15:58:26 2002 From: roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET (Roger) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:58:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: Purchased Live and Beyond from Ali when I saw Bedouin at the Rigger, Newcastle-under-Lyme in June. Ali and Danny very kindly signed it for me. Its not bad at all but I think I would recommend As Above So Below. That is one good CD cheers Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephe lindas" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > I thought the live one wasn't available yet. Anyone know different? Cheers > STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Linsley" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > Hi Allan > > > > I would recommend As Above So Below. It took a few > > plays to really grow on me. Perhaps it doesn't all > > reach the high standard of Vision Quest but it's still > > worth getting. Some of the guitar reminds me of > > FastEddie-era Motorhead, although this is p'raps not > > suprising for a band that doubles as a Motorhead > > tribute act. I've not heard the live CDR though. > > > > Almost as good as the new John Otway single...;-) > > > > AL > > --- Allan Sharpe wrote: > G'day > > all > > > > > > If I was to buy one of the bedouin CD's, which one > > > would be the best. I > > > really enjoy the longer style tracks that the Hawks > > > have produced > > > (Psychedelic Warlords...etc) & quite enjoy many of > > > Motorhead's chunkier > > > tracks (Killed by Death...etc)...& you just gotta > > > love Hassan I Sahba. > > > > > > I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. > > > > > > Looks like only 2 CD's are available "Live & Beyond" > > > & "As Above So Below". > > > > > > MP3 version of Vision Quest is not too bad. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > > > > Cheers man, Exellent web site and regarding the > > > merchandise...... I want > > > one of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > The NEW Bedouin Website is now online, with band > > > profiles, > > > > > discographies, picture galleries, gig listings > > > and merchandise.... > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Oct 2 16:05:37 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:05:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: I wonder why they didn't have it at Hawkfest??????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:58 PM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > Purchased Live and Beyond from Ali when I saw Bedouin at the Rigger, > Newcastle-under-Lyme in June. Ali and Danny very kindly signed it for me. > Its not bad at all but I think I would recommend As Above So Below. That is > one good CD > cheers > Roger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stephe lindas" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:45 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > I thought the live one wasn't available yet. Anyone know different? Cheers > > STEPHE > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alan Linsley" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:04 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > Hi Allan > > > > > > I would recommend As Above So Below. It took a few > > > plays to really grow on me. Perhaps it doesn't all > > > reach the high standard of Vision Quest but it's still > > > worth getting. Some of the guitar reminds me of > > > FastEddie-era Motorhead, although this is p'raps not > > > suprising for a band that doubles as a Motorhead > > > tribute act. I've not heard the live CDR though. > > > > > > Almost as good as the new John Otway single...;-) > > > > > > AL > > > --- Allan Sharpe wrote: > G'day > > > all > > > > > > > > If I was to buy one of the bedouin CD's, which one > > > > would be the best. I > > > > really enjoy the longer style tracks that the Hawks > > > > have produced > > > > (Psychedelic Warlords...etc) & quite enjoy many of > > > > Motorhead's chunkier > > > > tracks (Killed by Death...etc)...& you just gotta > > > > love Hassan I Sahba. > > > > > > > > I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. > > > > > > > > Looks like only 2 CD's are available "Live & Beyond" > > > > & "As Above So Below". > > > > > > > > MP3 version of Vision Quest is not too bad. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:52 PM > > > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers man, Exellent web site and regarding the > > > > merchandise...... I want > > > > one of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > The NEW Bedouin Website is now online, with band > > > > profiles, > > > > > > discographies, picture galleries, gig listings > > > > and merchandise.... > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > From roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET Wed Oct 2 16:24:31 2002 From: roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET (Roger) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:24:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: Dunno, I didn't make it to Hawkfest, but I think it was on sale when I saw them at Motex last month (I got Danny Thompson's Skin Walker for a tenner) I'll ask him when I see them on Sunday at The Limelight,Crewe if I get a chance :-) cheers Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephe lindas" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:05 PM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > I wonder why they didn't have it at Hawkfest??????? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > Purchased Live and Beyond from Ali when I saw Bedouin at the Rigger, > > Newcastle-under-Lyme in June. Ali and Danny very kindly signed it for me. > > Its not bad at all but I think I would recommend As Above So Below. That > is > > one good CD > > cheers > > Roger > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "stephe lindas" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:45 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > I thought the live one wasn't available yet. Anyone know different? > Cheers > > > STEPHE > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Alan Linsley" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > > > > Hi Allan > > > > > > > > I would recommend As Above So Below. It took a few > > > > plays to really grow on me. Perhaps it doesn't all > > > > reach the high standard of Vision Quest but it's still > > > > worth getting. Some of the guitar reminds me of > > > > FastEddie-era Motorhead, although this is p'raps not > > > > suprising for a band that doubles as a Motorhead > > > > tribute act. I've not heard the live CDR though. > > > > > > > > Almost as good as the new John Otway single...;-) > > > > > > > > AL > > > > --- Allan Sharpe wrote: > G'day > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > If I was to buy one of the bedouin CD's, which one > > > > > would be the best. I > > > > > really enjoy the longer style tracks that the Hawks > > > > > have produced > > > > > (Psychedelic Warlords...etc) & quite enjoy many of > > > > > Motorhead's chunkier > > > > > tracks (Killed by Death...etc)...& you just gotta > > > > > love Hassan I Sahba. > > > > > > > > > > I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > Looks like only 2 CD's are available "Live & Beyond" > > > > > & "As Above So Below". > > > > > > > > > > MP3 version of Vision Quest is not too bad. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:52 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers man, Exellent web site and regarding the > > > > > merchandise...... I want > > > > > one of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NEW Bedouin Website is now online, with band > > > > > profiles, > > > > > > > discographies, picture galleries, gig listings > > > > > and merchandise.... > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Oct 2 16:43:13 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:43:13 -0400 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: They had, Skin walker and As above, so below. Wish they had the live one. :-( Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > Dunno, I didn't make it to Hawkfest, but I think it was on sale when I saw > them at Motex last month (I got Danny Thompson's Skin Walker for a tenner) > I'll ask him when I see them on Sunday at The Limelight,Crewe if I get a > chance :-) > cheers > Roger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stephe lindas" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 9:05 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > I wonder why they didn't have it at Hawkfest??????? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roger" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:58 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > Purchased Live and Beyond from Ali when I saw Bedouin at the Rigger, > > > Newcastle-under-Lyme in June. Ali and Danny very kindly signed it for > me. > > > Its not bad at all but I think I would recommend As Above So Below. That > > is > > > one good CD > > > cheers > > > Roger > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "stephe lindas" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 8:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > > > > I thought the live one wasn't available yet. Anyone know different? > > Cheers > > > > STEPHE > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Alan Linsley" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:04 PM > > > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Allan > > > > > > > > > > I would recommend As Above So Below. It took a few > > > > > plays to really grow on me. Perhaps it doesn't all > > > > > reach the high standard of Vision Quest but it's still > > > > > worth getting. Some of the guitar reminds me of > > > > > FastEddie-era Motorhead, although this is p'raps not > > > > > suprising for a band that doubles as a Motorhead > > > > > tribute act. I've not heard the live CDR though. > > > > > > > > > > Almost as good as the new John Otway single...;-) > > > > > > > > > > AL > > > > > --- Allan Sharpe wrote: > G'day > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > If I was to buy one of the bedouin CD's, which one > > > > > > would be the best. I > > > > > > really enjoy the longer style tracks that the Hawks > > > > > > have produced > > > > > > (Psychedelic Warlords...etc) & quite enjoy many of > > > > > > Motorhead's chunkier > > > > > > tracks (Killed by Death...etc)...& you just gotta > > > > > > love Hassan I Sahba. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like only 2 CD's are available "Live & Beyond" > > > > > > & "As Above So Below". > > > > > > > > > > > > MP3 version of Vision Quest is not too bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:52 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers man, Exellent web site and regarding the > > > > > > merchandise...... I want > > > > > > one of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The NEW Bedouin Website is now online, with band > > > > > > profiles, > > > > > > > > discographies, picture galleries, gig listings > > > > > > and merchandise.... > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > > > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > > > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > > > From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Wed Oct 2 17:57:27 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:57:27 +0000 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: Ok its downloading now and I don't yet hear anything (except Childeren Of The Sun cause thats in the cd now) but shouldn't it be Barbarians playing rather than Led Zepp? I wanna skeet skeet skeet on the waves Then eat a bunch of local fungus and go off on a rape pillage an plunder adventure with loads of blanga blasting my enimies! and of course at my friends also! Yup its that time of year agin - We had rain!!!!!! Chris From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Wed Oct 2 17:59:23 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:59:23 +0000 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: Ok its downloading now and I don't yet hear anything (except Childeren Of The Sun cause thats in the cd now) but shouldn't it be Barbarians playing rather than Led Zepp? I wanna skeet skeet skeet on the waves Then eat a bunch of local fungus and go off on a rape pillage an plunder adventure with loads of blanga blasting my enimies! and of course at my friends also! Yup its that time of year agin - We had rain!!!!!! Ohhh picture of mushroom field appears on my screen... Got to go find.... Got to go find... Chris From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Oct 2 21:17:37 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:17:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: > Almost as good as the new John Otway single...;-) > > Which I understand is no.8 in the midweek sales chart. :-) Happy 50th Birthday Mr Otway. :-) Cheers, Rich. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Oct 2 22:26:28 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:26:28 EDT Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: Majik mushrooms..... run away - runaaaaaaaway!!!!!! In a message dated Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:01:49 AEDT, Chris writes: > Ok its downloading now and I don't yet hear anything (except Childeren > Of The Sun cause thats in the cd now) but shouldn't it be Barbarians > playing rather than Led Zepp? > > I wanna skeet skeet skeet on the waves > > Then eat a bunch of local fungus and go off on a rape pillage an plunder > adventure with loads of blanga blasting my enimies! and of course at my > friends also! > > Yup its that time of year agin - We had rain!!!!!! > > Ohhh picture of mushroom field appears on my screen... Got to go > find.... Got to go find... > > > Chris From rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 3 08:53:45 2002 From: rob5burton at HOTMAIL.COM (rob burton) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:53:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: Could someone remind me of the web address as I've deleted it by mistake and everything i've tried comes up a blank so far. Rob _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From micci at SCI.FI Thu Oct 3 08:58:56 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:58:56 +0300 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.bedouin.info/ At 13:53 3.10.2002 +0100, you wrote: >Could someone remind me of the web address as I've deleted it by mistake and >everything i've tried comes up a blank so far. > >Rob > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Miikka Wagner E- Mail: star.lion at sci.fi or hawkwind at friikki.net Official Finnish Hawkwind Association ry http://www.saunalahti.fi/freak5 E- mail: finn.wind at sci.fi From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Oct 3 09:50:07 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:50:07 -0400 Subject: HW: Sunday Mail / Glasgow Message-ID: Don't read the paper myself but have just been told that the advert for the Motorhead Glasgow show named HW as one of the supports? Wh'appen? Needing to know. SAH From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Oct 3 10:52:40 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:52:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC at the Jammys?!?!?!?!? Message-ID: According to jambands.com, BOC guested with moe. on "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" at last night's Jammy's! I can't wait to hear the tapes of that one. Someone also mentioned that the Jammy's were broadcast on satellite TV, but I don't know if that refers just to the the awards ceremony or to the music as well. >>>>> forwarded from jambands.com: Allman Brothers Band, Trey Anastasio among Surprise Guests at 2002 Jammys Presented by TDK Last night's 2002 Jammys Presented by TDK concluded with an uplifting, marathon version of "Lovelight," with COUNTLESS musicians collaborating on both stages at Roseland Ballroom in New York City. RatDog was joined on the main stage by guitarist Trey Anastasio (Phish), Warren Haynes (Govt' Mule, Allman Brothers Band), Al Schnier (moe.), harmonica player John Popper (Blues Traveler), drummer Matt Abts (Govt' Mule) and DJ Logic. Meanwhile, the second stage was inhabited by bassist Mike Gordon (Phish), guitarist Fuzz (Deep Banana Blackout), steel pedal guitarist Robert Randolph, saxophonists Skerik (Critters Buggin', Les Claypool's Frog Brigade), Hope Clayburn (Deep Banana Blackout), Jessica Lurie (Living Daylights), Tom Tom Club vocalists Mystic Bowie and Victoria Clamp and "Flute Girl." A lengthy jam ensued between both stages, with musicians egging each other on from across the room. Earlier in the show, during Gov't Mule's set, the Allman Brothers Band emerged, joining guitarist Warren Haynes for "Desdemona." Anastasio and John Scofield then performed on "Sco-Mule." Next, ABB guitarist Derek Trucks returned and Trey remained for "Soulshine." Other notable collaborations included Blue Oyster Cult and moe. on "Don't Fear the Reaper" and B-52's and Particle on "Love Shack." <<<<< Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 3 11:15:53 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:15:53 EDT Subject: BOC: BOC at the Jammys?!?!?!?!? In-Reply-To: <20021003145240.GA81176@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 3 Oct 2002, at 10:52, Paul Mather wrote: > According to jambands.com, BOC guested with moe. on "(Don't Fear) The > Reaper" at last night's Jammy's! I can't wait to hear the tapes of > that one. Someone also mentioned that the Jammy's were broadcast on > satellite TV, but I don't know if that refers just to the the awards > ceremony or to the music as well. > I'm told that moe. are huge B?C fans, and even do B?C tunes as encores from time to time... theo From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Thu Oct 3 12:19:02 2002 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:19:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Sunday Mail / Glasgow In-Reply-To: <200210031350.JAA01660@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Yeah, I'd really like to know too. The ad in Kerrang the other week had MOTORHEAD/ANTHRAX/HAWKWIND then the gig dates/venues. No wee asterix with "London only" or the like for Hawkwind. Now I don't read that peice of pish the Sunday Mail either, but have been told the ad had HW as playing. As I'm not interested in Anthrax, or sitting in the horrible Clyde Auditorium any longer than I have to, I'd really like to know if HW are playing so I can make sure I'm there! It'll make the slightly-into-the-realm-of-rip-off ticket price a bit more bearable too!! Oh yeah, anyone know of Scottish dates on the HW december tour? If it's happening anyway. I have a holiday to book but don't wanna miss HW!! Argh, complications as Killing Joke once said... Dave At 14:50 03/10/02, you wrote: >Don't read the paper myself but have just been told that the advert for the >Motorhead Glasgow show named HW as one of the supports? > >Wh'appen? > >Needing to know. > >SAH From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Oct 3 13:52:07 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:52:07 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC at the Jammys?!?!?!?!? In-Reply-To: <3D9C26E7.8563.DF8C4E@localhost> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 11:15:53AM -0400, Ted Jackson wrote: => I'm told that moe. are huge B?C fans, and even do B?C tunes as => encores from time to time... I have a Halloween '98 (I think) moe. show on cassette where they open with The Reaper (and end with Freebird, if memory serves). Local guy "Smokin'" Joe Bonamassa even guests for a spell. Another posting about the Jammys on another list stated that only two B?C members guested, so I reckon that would most likely have been Buck and Eric. Cheers, Paul. PS: If anyone has that moe. Halloween show on CD... give it up! e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Oct 3 15:43:35 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:43:35 +0000 Subject: November 9th Spacerock Fest in Philadelphia Message-ID: Hi friends, only a minute to write here, but wanted to remind you all of the upcoming Spacerock Festival at The University of Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, PA ( Rotunda building) Saturday, November 9th. I'm on a public access computer which is very slow, but if you wasnt complete details go to Scattered Planets' website for lineup, times etc, at www.scatteredplanets.com We are ready to rock!!! Peace, Mike _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Oct 3 16:50:35 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:50:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Bedouin For Sale Message-ID: BEDOUIN wish to announce the following: The new website at www.bedouin.info has now been updated to include links to Bedouin and Alan Davey solo cd's and videos for sale, including: As Above, So Below (MP3 sample online) Live and Beyond The Final Call Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra Bedouin and..... links for sales of the VHS video (PAL/NTSC) of "Sonic Rock Solstace" with inclusions from Bedouin, Spacehead & Harvey Bainbridge etc. (Dowloadable trailers are also online) Rx From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Oct 3 18:43:01 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:43:01 EDT Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: You realize, of course, that if felines had opposable thumbs, this would've been reality and not just a website joke! From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Oct 3 18:51:03 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:51:03 -0400 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: My cats a viking. He's only missing a boat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Loehr" To: Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: Re: off:Check this out > You realize, of course, that if felines had opposable thumbs, this would've > been reality and not just a website joke! From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Oct 3 18:56:29 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:56:29 EDT Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: In a message dated 10/3/02 5:50:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time, lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET writes: > My cats a viking. He's only missing a boat. > ah, but with opposable thumbs, he could have built a boat, forged iron weapons, did all kinds other viking things, and conquered the world. We could all be saying "Meow" right now! From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 3 18:16:53 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:16:53 +0000 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: There's a small Irish Bar Opp. wembley park tube called the crock of gold...and there's alawys the tourch...nothing great in wembley @ all cept. HAWKWIND WallABalloooo>>>>>ps nostanding left the edbanger's av got em!!! I'm up the left side wiv some mates...I hate wembley too but I cant miss dis... >From: Colin J Allen >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Wembley >Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:55:48 +0100 > >Decent Wembley pub? > >An oxymoron! > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alan Linsley" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:38 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Wembley > > > > Count me in, although I haven't got a ticket yet as I > > was waiting for somebody to answer the post that asked > > for info about the seating. May just go for a > > standing ticket, probably easier. Any Lahndon geezers > > know a decent Wembley pub? > > > > AL > > > > --- Rich Warren wrote: > > > 18 Days and Counting > > > > > > So Who's going? > > > > > > And which pub are we going to descend on? > > > > > > Rich W :-) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 3 18:26:59 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:26:59 +0000 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: That's stand out MR! thanx!! 'an howz it going Steve?? >From: stephe lindas >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: off:Check this out >Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:49:37 -0400 > >Thats Fantastic, although I thought they were whispering tales of THOR, not >gore. Cheers STEPHE >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill Stewart" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:01 PM >Subject: off:Check this out > > > > For all you bastards who think I have nothing to contribute ...blow me! > > > > > > http://www.rathergood.com/vikings/ > > > > bill _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Thu Oct 3 21:45:37 2002 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 21:45:37 -0400 Subject: BOC meets moe. Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "~mindy reznik." To: "moe-setlist" Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: [moe.setlist] 10/2/02 setlists > > moe. won the Jammy for TDK Live Performance of the Year: moe., Bonnaroo > Music Festival, 6/23/02 > > > 10/2/02 - Jammys - Roseland Ballroom, NYC, NY > > Rebubula* -> Don't Fear the Reaper** > > * - Chuck started this off with a Happy Boy tease > ** - w/Eric Bloom (vocals), Buck Dharma (guitar) and Allen Lanier (guitar, > keyboards) of Blue Oyster Cult > > 10/2/02 - Jammys Afterparty - BB King Blues Club > > Linus & Lucy, Mexico*, Spine of a Dog -> Buster, Not Coming Down, New York > City, Happy Hour Hero^ -> Recreational Chemistry^^, Opium** -> lylellovit**, > Bodhissativa** > encore: Sensory Deprivation Bank^^^ > > * - w/Ryan Murphy on vocals > ^ - w/Trey Anastacio (Phish) on guitar, Chuck teased Llama before they > started HHH > ^^ - w/Trey Anastacio (Phish) on guitar, Steve Molitz (Particle) on keys, > contained Other One & Norweigan Wood teases > ** - w/Warren Haynes (Gov't Mule) on guitar, Nate Wilson (Percy Hill) on > keys > ^^^ - w/Warren Haynes (Gov't Mule) on guitar > > Any Questions/Comments/Corrections > please email mindy at moelinks.com From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Oct 4 03:16:40 2002 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:16:40 -0600 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: My Wiseguy is as well! He prefers a chain mace, tho....16 lbs of ornery:) Pam stephe lindas wrote: > My cats a viking. He's only missing a boat. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Loehr" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:43 PM > Subject: Re: off:Check this out > > > You realize, of course, that if felines had opposable thumbs, this > would've > > been reality and not just a website joke! -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Yeah, so I'm watching the MLB play-offs, trying to look away from the screen during commercials, but I look anyway, and there's this Nike commercial...apparently shot in NYC, including Jason Giambi holding a bassball bat...real corny of course, then there's a half-second shot of a club marquee reading "The Mooney Suzuki". OK, I know this is a big group in the college-set, and I guess some of these groups have gone on to be pretty big...and I've never even heard the MS, so I natch I just thought of Can. But I thought it was worth mentioning. Oh well... Chuck From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Oct 4 10:49:50 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:49:50 -0400 Subject: off:Check this out Message-ID: HI, Great now that its Freya's day. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "alan day" To: Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:26 PM Subject: Re: off:Check this out > That's stand out MR! thanx!! 'an howz it going Steve?? > > > >From: stephe lindas > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: off:Check this out > >Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:49:37 -0400 > > > >Thats Fantastic, although I thought they were whispering tales of THOR, not > >gore. Cheers STEPHE > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bill Stewart" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:01 PM > >Subject: off:Check this out > > > > > > > For all you bastards who think I have nothing to contribute ...blow me! > > > > > > > > > http://www.rathergood.com/vikings/ > > > > > > bill > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Oct 4 11:37:37 2002 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:37:37 +0200 Subject: HW: Covers all... Message-ID: Hey Folks... Thanks to those who responded off-line...I'm sorry for ignoring you, your offers of assistance are much appreciated. I'll post again when I begin to make more definite plans. The amount of on-list discussion, i.e. 'brainstorming,' that ensued (or didn't) upon my first post indicates to me that the level of interest this time is just not the same as the original cassette series. I can live with that...I understand that times change and people aren't as 'gung-ho' about this sort of thing now that the internet is hardly novel and fresh. And I assume that there are quite a few folks that would like to have a set of these (and 'pay' the expected costs of b&p and such), but are staying quiet waiting for a call to action on their part. So I guess since nobody has piped up with suggestions on how to run it, I'll just do it however I like in conjunction with those who are the first 'suppliers'...don't say I didn't give you a chance to speak up. :) So anyway, I am not going to feel slighted in the least, or take my ball and go home...those that still want to participate are welcome to (I think maybe it's safe now to extend the offer to the 'other' lists, i.e. the yahoogroups HW list (Bob Lennon's) and HW-specific CDR-tree list (which is a separate entity IIRC?). But I'm not on these and so if anyone can forward the proper info to them (*when* the time comes I suppose, don't need to send this one or the previous one), that would be helpful. Someone can email me if they can do this for me. Anyway, I've been pretty busy moving to a real apartment (hardly easy here I discover; currently living with no furniture and have to sit on the toilet to put my socks on, but I digress...) and trying to find people to make my lab equipment work, and can't 'work' in the evenings 'cause there's no busses after 8 PM, and... So you get my drift...I'll write those who offered to assist soon and we'll make a plan on our own and then I'll put out an additional announcement to the list. I would come in and do it this weekend, but now I'm going to Stuttgart tomorrow to see Guru Guru play, so it'll have to be sometime next week. Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Hidria Spacefolk - the new one, whatever it's called. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Oct 4 15:34:19 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:34:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros - strange surprise! Message-ID: Goodness me - what a strange experience. I never managed to see GSYB in the end but I went to see Sigur Ros last night and they must come very close to them. An incredibly stately, dark, full, intense sound - I dunno how to describe it really. Germanic or Icelandic trance music I guess - incredibly powerful and solid. Actually probably closer to King Crimson in many ways - especially when they do the discordant aspect. Loads of keyboards and strings and a vocalist with an almost female languorous voice. Strange lad, he was. Sang/chanted into his guitar pick-up microphone at one point. Definitely an evening to remember! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Oct 4 15:46:04 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:46:04 -0400 Subject: Sigur Ros - strange surprise! Message-ID: Can you somewhat relate them with Early Dead Can Dance? Thats what came to mind when I first heard them. I bet they're great live. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros - strange surprise! > Goodness me - what a strange experience. I never managed to see GSYB > in the end but I went to see Sigur Ros last night and they must come > very close to them. An incredibly stately, dark, full, intense sound - > I dunno how to describe it really. Germanic or Icelandic trance music > I guess - incredibly powerful and solid. Actually probably closer to > King Crimson in many ways - especially when they do the discordant > aspect. Loads of keyboards and strings and a vocalist with an almost > female languorous voice. Strange lad, he was. Sang/chanted into his > guitar pick-up microphone at one point. > > Definitely an evening to remember! > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Fri Oct 4 17:44:04 2002 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (Jez Dacombe) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:44:04 +0100 Subject: HW: HW & MH in Brum Message-ID: Hi, I have in front of me a local paper ad for NIA Academy in Birmingham which lists "MOTORHEAD plus guests Anthrax & Hawkwind" on 15th Oct. So maybe this trio are doing a whole tour together? Jez From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Sat Oct 5 04:28:20 2002 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 04:28:20 EDT Subject: HW: Hawkwind supporting in Newport Wales Message-ID: Hi, i've just got news that Hawkwind are guests at the Newport Wales gig !!!!!!, Come on Hawkwind what can you confirm please?... Regards Iain From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sat Oct 5 16:38:05 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:38:05 -0500 Subject: HW: xmas gig Message-ID: Hi folks, How many folks are going to the xmas gig at Walthamstow? Anyone interested in trying to stay in one place? (like we did for the Astoria gig?) (figuring that it'd be easier if we start early for finding places this year.) Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Oct 6 03:50:45 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 03:50:45 EDT Subject: HW: xmas gig Message-ID: In a message dated Sun, 6 Oct 2002 07:38:45 AEDT, Arin Komins writes: > Hi folks, > > How many folks are going to the xmas gig at Walthamstow? > Anyone interested in trying to stay in one place? > (like we did for the Astoria gig?) > > (figuring that it'd be easier if we start early for finding places this > year.) > > Thanks, > > Arin Are you and Rich going? If I can manage it there will be a post on the boc list in the next few weeks of me raving like a looney (dont laugh - what else is new huh ;-)) that I have it all 100% organised. Untill that time I'm am unsure.... But a similar happening like the 2000 Astoria xmas party would be a grand plan indeed. Mb From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Oct 6 04:02:42 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 04:02:42 EDT Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: Two gigs? Velly interestingggg..... Thursday, December 12 at 7:30 PM C2 PROMOTIONS PRESENTS: Hawkwind at Concorde 2 Brighton Plenty of free parking outside. For all our events please go to, www.concorde2.co.uk ?14.00 ------------------------- Friday, December 13 9:00 PM (8:00 PM doors) -: Special Christmas Show plus Hawkwind at Walthamstow Assembly Hall ?14.00 From imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK Sun Oct 6 05:05:52 2002 From: imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK (Jason Gool) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 10:05:52 +0100 Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? In-Reply-To: <111.199f4f2e.2ad14824@aol.com> Message-ID: Same night as the Manics are in town, bummer! > Two gigs? Velly interestingggg..... > > Thursday, December 12 at 7:30 PM > C2 PROMOTIONS PRESENTS: Hawkwind > at Concorde 2 Brighton > > Plenty of free parking outside. For all our events please go to, www.concorde2.co.uk > ?14.00 > ------------------------- > Friday, December 13 9:00 PM (8:00 PM doors) > -: Special Christmas Show plus Hawkwind > at Walthamstow Assembly Hall > ?14.00 > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Oct 6 05:43:21 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 05:43:21 EDT Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: In a message dated Sun, 6 Oct 2002 20:05:03 AEDT, Jason Gool writes: > Same night as the Manics are in town, bummer! see Hawkwind instead > > > > Two gigs? Velly interestingggg..... > > > > Thursday, December 12 at 7:30 PM > > C2 PROMOTIONS PRESENTS: Hawkwind > > at Concorde 2 Brighton > > > > Plenty of free parking outside. For all our events please go to, www.concorde2.co.uk > > ?14.00 > > ------------------------- > > Friday, December 13 9:00 PM (8:00 PM doors) > > -: Special Christmas Show plus Hawkwind > > at Walthamstow Assembly Hall > > ?14.00 > > From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Oct 6 08:06:58 2002 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (filip) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 14:06:58 +0200 Subject: BOC:video? Message-ID: Hello, Just been to a flea-market and found the video BLUE OYSTER CULT LIVE - DECEMBER 1976 CAPITAL CENTER LARGO MARYLAND unfortinually,the sleeve is missing it's not a copy but a real one can anyone send me the cover? filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be greetings filip From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Oct 6 08:57:47 2002 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (filip) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 14:57:47 +0200 Subject: HW:Ystalyfera 21/07/2000 & Birkenhead Message-ID: Hello, Has anyone photos (or were can I find them) of those 2 concerts Also again the date of Birkenhead? The guy who gave me the first date in the first place should e-mail me again(had a complete meltdown of the harddisc,there's still lying here something for you?) Very helpfull:Track-list!!! Members of the band !!!!!!!!! Also photos of BOCHUM ZECHE 19/05/1991 greetings filip From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Oct 6 10:34:39 2002 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (filip) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 16:34:39 +0200 Subject: BOC:video? received Message-ID: Hello to all concerned,have received the sleeve thanks for the rapid reply nice cover greetings filip From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Oct 6 11:13:29 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 16:13:29 +0100 Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? In-Reply-To: <111.199f4f2e.2ad14824@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <111.199f4f2e.2ad14824 at aol.com>, Michael W Blackman writes >Two gigs? Velly interestingggg..... > >Thursday, December 12 at 7:30 PM >C2 PROMOTIONS PRESENTS: Hawkwind >at Concorde 2 Brighton > >Plenty of free parking outside. For all our events please go to, >www.concorde2.co.uk >?14.00 Kris, Rik or whoever: is this date definite? I can't make the 13th as I'll be abroad but I *can* make the 12th and would love to see the band in Brighton, it would make up for missing the Xmas bash. So is this date for real? -- Nick Medford From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Oct 6 11:33:02 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:33:02 EDT Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: Tis advertised at Ticket web masters - but aye - I'd also like to know if its fer real too :) In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 02:14:47 AEDT, Nick Medford writes: > In message <111.199f4f2e.2ad14824 at aol.com>, Michael W Blackman > writes > >Two gigs? Velly interestingggg..... > > > >Thursday, December 12 at 7:30 PM > >C2 PROMOTIONS PRESENTS: Hawkwind > >at Concorde 2 Brighton > > > >Plenty of free parking outside. For all our events please go to, > >www.concorde2.co.uk > >?14.00 > > Kris, Rik or whoever: is this date definite? I can't make the 13th as I'll > be abroad but I *can* make the 12th and would love to see the band in > Brighton, it would make up for missing the Xmas bash. So is this date > for real? > -- > Nick Medford From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Sun Oct 6 14:34:05 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:34:05 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind supporting in Newport Wales Message-ID: Hi ya, Err wot gig? were gig? when gig? Must be there must be there..... Need more info! Chris IainFerguson at aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > > i've just got news that Hawkwind are guests at the Newport Wales gig !!!!!!, > > Come on Hawkwind what can you confirm please?... > > Regards > Iain From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Oct 6 16:46:54 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:46:54 +0100 Subject: Motorhead tour - is Hawkwind supporting? Message-ID: Posters are up all over Glasgow for the Motorhead gig which state that Anthrax and Hawkwind are in support. No information on either Mission Control or the Official Motorhead site. Rix - what's happening? Dave From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Oct 6 19:19:32 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 00:19:32 +0100 Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: > Tis advertised at Ticket web masters - but aye - I'd also like to know if its fer real too :) > > "But aye"? Are you guilty of impersonating a Yorkshireman Michael? :-) Cheers, Rich. From hw at CY-B.ORG Sun Oct 6 21:05:57 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:05:57 -0400 Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: Hi - As soon as any gigs are 100% *confirmed* they will be up on MC and announced here within minutes.... As we've seen before, sometimes venues promote things that are not official :-} Rx From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 03:33:33 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 03:33:33 EDT Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 10:19:48 AEDT, Richard Lockwood writes: > > Tis advertised at Ticket web masters - but aye - I'd also like to know if > its fer real too :) > > > > > > "But aye"? Are you guilty of impersonating a Yorkshireman Michael? > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. LoL :-) Noooooooooo laddy! It must be my Scottish heritage coming ooot. Im proudly part Scot thanks to me great Granny (and those before her) who come from the Isle of Skie. Michael B From CWarburton at OAG.COM Mon Oct 7 05:46:26 2002 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (ChrisW Work) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 10:46:26 +0100 Subject: Off: Blackman blows his Scots heritage Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 03:33:33 EDT Michael W Blackman wrote: >LoL :-) Noooooooooo laddy! It must be my Scottish heritage coming ooot. >Im proudly part Scot thanks to me great Granny (and those before her) >who come from the Isle of Skie. Isle of where??? Yours curiously, ChrisW From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 06:00:42 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 06:00:42 EDT Subject: Off: Blackman blows his Scots heritage Message-ID: Skie - Sky - however its spelled ;-) or is it aisle of - Mary Wilki was me great granny... I'm sure she wont mind me telling In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:48:15 AEDT, ChrisW Work writes: > On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 03:33:33 EDT Michael W Blackman > wrote: > >LoL :-) Noooooooooo laddy! It must be my Scottish heritage coming ooot. > >Im proudly part Scot thanks to me great Granny (and those before her) > >who come from the Isle of Skie. > > Isle of where??? > > Yours curiously, > ChrisW From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Mon Oct 7 06:19:38 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris W) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 06:19:38 -0400 Subject: Off: Blackman blows his Scots heritage Message-ID: Skye as any fule no (sorry Molesworth) *G* Damn fine place, you should pay a visit! ChrisW From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 7 06:28:22 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 11:28:22 +0100 Subject: HW: xmas gig In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:38:05 -0500 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Hi folks, > > How many folks are going to the xmas gig at Walthamstow? > Anyone interested in trying to stay in one place? > (like we did for the Astoria gig?) Yep, count me in. FoFP From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Oct 7 07:05:32 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:05:32 -0400 Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: Ferchrisakes, the tour starts this week. Surely someone knows. On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:05:57 -0400, Rik Rx wrote: >Hi - As soon as any gigs are 100% *confirmed* >they will be up on MC and announced here within minutes.... > >As we've seen before, sometimes venues promote things >that are not official :-} > >Rx From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Oct 7 07:09:24 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:09:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Adrian Shaw featured on new sampler Message-ID: The VOICES 3' sampler is now available. 'VOICES' is a strictly non profit making venture to promote (mostly) solo artists everywhere working within the broad church of progressive rock and imaginative musics. Full details are available at; http://www.stuarthamilton.f9.co.uk/paradox/voices.html From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Mon Oct 7 07:11:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:11:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw DVD Message-ID: Stop press: the Huw Lloyd Langton DVD is a go.... ordering page will be up within a few days.... just waiting on some artwork and credits now... Features the full 98 min Walthamstowe concert with desk audio, plus photo gallery. Please don't email me yet, I'll post again when the web page is up! ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield 3-Lib, for conversion of VHS or 8mm video material onto DVD General video capturing & DVD authoring knowhow and reviews http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/dvd From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 07:14:24 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:14:24 EDT Subject: Off: Blackman blows his Scots heritage Message-ID: In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:20:19 AEDT, Chris W writes: > Skye as any fule no (sorry Molesworth) *G* > Damn fine place, you should pay a visit! > > ChrisW hehe - I'll get it right one day. I shall pay a visit one fine day. Would like to do a lot of adventuring around those parts and others. Actually I found a rather charming castle in Scotland I'd like to buy. Cloncaird Castle. ;-) So far I have saved up for the long johns and wooly sox. From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Oct 7 07:13:35 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:13:35 +0100 Subject: Canterbury 2001 Message-ID: As I wasn't at this gig, can anyone advise if an advance order of this live CD is worthwhile? Thanks, Eddie. (No sleep 'til Wembley) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 07:15:43 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:15:43 EDT Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:05:37 AEDT, The Rocker writes: > Ferchrisakes, the tour starts this week. Surely someone knows. > Eee was refering to the Xmas dates ;-) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 07:17:32 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:17:32 EDT Subject: HW: Huw DVD Message-ID: Exellent - I definatly want one In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:12:00 AEDT, Steve Litchfield writes: > Stop press: the Huw Lloyd Langton DVD is a go.... ordering page will be up > within a few days.... just waiting on some artwork and credits now... > > Features the full 98 min Walthamstowe concert with desk audio, plus photo > gallery. Please don't email me yet, I'll post again when the web page is > up! > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > 3-Lib, for conversion of VHS or 8mm video material onto DVD > General video capturing & DVD authoring knowhow and reviews > http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/dvd From coral at APORT.RU Mon Oct 7 08:28:50 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:28:50 +0400 Subject: HW: xmas gig Message-ID: > Yep, count me in. Me too, I think. And I hope to spend a week in London - from December 8th to 15th. Alisa From coral at APORT.RU Mon Oct 7 08:49:43 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 16:49:43 +0400 Subject: OFF: Ship of Fools new album Message-ID: Hi, there is a new album on Peaceville coming soon. Anyone knows are they reunited? cheers, Alisa From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Oct 7 08:59:43 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:59:43 -0400 Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: And I was referring to the MH gigs. So now the usual confusion around HW is even more confusing:-) Quality On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 07:15:43 EDT, Michael W Blackman wrote: >In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 22:05:37 AEDT, The Rocker writes: > >> Ferchrisakes, the tour starts this week. Surely someone knows. >> > >Eee was refering to the Xmas dates ;-) From youless at LVCM.COM Mon Oct 7 09:37:12 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 09:37:12 -0400 Subject: Canterbury 2001 Message-ID: IMHO Yes, most definitely. It was among the best HW gigs I've been to, the sound was very clear, they played excellently (better than at HawkFest this year) and the material was great. Despite Arthur Brown not knowing the words, it was the best version of Silver Machine I've ever heard. Steve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:13:35 +0100, Jobson, Eddie wrote: >As I wasn't at this gig, can anyone advise if an advance order of this live >CD is worthwhile? > >Thanks, > >Eddie. (No sleep 'til Wembley) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 10:27:25 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 10:27:25 EDT Subject: HW: xmas gig Message-ID: In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 23:27:46 AEDT, Alisa writes: > > Yep, count me in. > > Me too, I think. > > And I hope to spend a week in London - from December 8th to 15th. > > Alisa Watch out for pick pockets in London. I had a brief conversation with an elderly one wearing an old WW2 style airforce trench coat and seriously pissed off his partner because I had my wallett in the inner lining of my suede jacket. Nothing but a kleenex in my pocket. But I must say - he was a most polite and gentlemanly pickpocket all the same. If his partner hadn't snarled I would have gladly bought the older chap lunch. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 10:32:32 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 10:32:32 EDT Subject: Ticket web masters - HW x 2 gigs?? Message-ID: In a message dated Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:01:45 AEDT, The Rocker writes: > And I was referring to the MH gigs. So now the usual >confusion around HW > is even more confusing:-) Quality Would you like some chaos with you order of confusion, Sir? :-) Second thoughts...... Let the golden Gods smile merrily and bring order - that sounds better :-) From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Mon Oct 7 12:15:21 2002 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 02:15:21 +1000 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: Thanks for the info, everyone - I've been away for a couple of days but do appreciate it. Allan > http://www.bedouin.info/ > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Oct 7 14:52:10 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:52:10 +0100 Subject: Canterbury 2001 Message-ID: A great gig! buy it! Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jobson, Eddie" To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: Canterbury 2001 > As I wasn't at this gig, can anyone advise if an advance order of this live > CD is worthwhile? > > Thanks, > > Eddie. (No sleep 'til Wembley) > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 7 13:55:43 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 14:55:43 -0300 Subject: 'London Rocker', now online and WORKING!!! Check out this 'Lord Sutch' favorite Message-ID: You'll find The OEBs version of David "Screaming Lord' Sutch's 'London Rocker' at the tope right hand corner of our website. It's the first of the featured selections...Peace, Mike Burro http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Oct 7 15:56:05 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 15:56:05 -0400 Subject: HW: Xmas Update Message-ID: + + +STAR WARRIORS : HAWKWIND'S XMAS PARTY GIG : Walthamstow Assembly Hall, London E17 - Friday 13th December 2002 - Doors 8pm Advance tickets ?14.00 / On Door ?16.00 - Tel: 020-8521-7111 (Box Office) AS PER LAST YEAR, THIS GIG WILL SELL OUT FAST SO PLEASE BOOK EARLY ! To book tickets online from Ticketweb Sales: http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?region=uk&query=search&category=misc&search =hawkwind&beginmonth=09&beginday=24&beginyear=2002 *latest info* LITMUS are to play support at this gig. + MESSAGE ENDS + + From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 21:43:14 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:43:14 EDT Subject: HW: Xmas Update Message-ID: Cool, but wah aboud da one dat tickit mawsta is advatising on da twelf o' Decemba, man? ;-) In a message dated Tue, 8 Oct 2002 06:56:13 AEDT, Rik Rx writes: > + + +STAR WARRIORS : > > HAWKWIND'S XMAS PARTY GIG : Walthamstow Assembly Hall, > London E17 - Friday 13th December 2002 - Doors 8pm > > Advance tickets ?14.00 / On Door ?16.00 - Tel: 020-8521-7111 (Box Office) > AS PER LAST YEAR, THIS GIG WILL SELL OUT FAST SO PLEASE BOOK EARLY ! > To book tickets online from Ticketweb Sales: > http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/user/?region=uk&query=search&category=misc&search > =hawkwind&beginmonth=09&beginday=24&beginyear=2002 > > *latest info* LITMUS are to play support at this gig. > > + MESSAGE ENDS + + From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Oct 8 11:50:58 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:50:58 -0400 Subject: BOC: "a good 70s band still rocking out" - the DVD Message-ID: good baskstage footage.. though they cut run through of the Vigil short (or did they cut it short live? Interviews with all of the bandmembers and Steve Schenk is talked about by Buck. Allen Lanier is a lively fellow on camera. Both he and Buck cannot stop playing the guitar whilst being interviewed. Buck does scales, Allen does blues. i cant say anythign about the sound because my TV speakers make Erics voice stand out the most, over buck's guitar.... (sigh) but the camera direction is not intrusive or full of insanse special effects a la live 1976. More later when i watch it all. J waiting in the wings: the new King Crimson EP From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 12:44:47 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:44:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: "any color you like as long as its black" - my new mohawk lasted for a month Message-ID: Sure, so I'd netscraped all of gothland with my whole Discharge spiel and decided to spend some money on a new mohawk. I had just been to the city and loaded up on half a gram of speed and a couple of new CD's, namely replacing the Turbonegro tribute and getting Tiamat's "Skeleton Skeletron" in the absence of "Judas Christ". Arriving from Oslo an the local train in Asker where I live, I walk right into a hairdresser and say I want a black mohawk. It felt really good. I'm wearing glasses these days so I needed the change as I'm out of fresh contacts at the moment. They spiked my hair up really good. I went home and shot up and decided to go shopping some more CD's locally at the local mall. Bought about 20 CD's to nostalgically replace a bunch of old stuff and get a few new things, namely three favorite Grateful Dead CD's ("Aoxomoxoa", "Live/Dead" and "American Beauty"), an old Faith No More one, a couple of Iron Maidens ("Number Of The Beast" and "Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son"), a Jethro Tull ("Broadsword And The Beast") and a Genesis ("Nursery Cryme"), Kula Shaker and Supergrass, the double Sex Pistols "Never Mind The Bollocks" remaster with the extra crap CD, Mercury Rev and Primal Scream, Queen's "Jazz" because it has "Dead On Time", Metallica's "Master Of Puppets" mostly for the title track, the second Pink Floyd album, the first Boo Radleys and Ride CD's and MC5's "Back In The USA". Then I went home and enjoyed myself. A month later I decide to shave off the rest of my hair to be a skinhead. Totally. Have to pick up that Ulver "Bergtatt" CD I have laying for me at the store in Oslo too, along with the "Nemesis Divina" by Satyricon and the latest Manowar disc. Heavy! I also finally got myself a new keyboard last week so I can actually type messages like a normal human being again. So that was my first real mohawk story after all my long haired Nazarene style mohawks. Chr. "Captain Swing wants his revenge at the Solstice at Stonehenge!" - Inner City Unit "Uncle Sam is very humane, he'd do anything for anybody...? He'd put him out his misery, give him some nuclear death... Uncle Sam is very humane..." - Hawkwind __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 12:47:14 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:47:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: my new Iron Maiden - "The Number Of The Beast" poster Message-ID: I just had to pick this up at the record store. It looks great on my wall next to my Hawkwind 1995 tour poster! I got another Iron Maiden pic up on my wall as well which I tore out of Sweden Rock magazine. Iron Maiden rule! Also, did anyone know Bruce Dickinson was a pilot? http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_665829.html Chr. "Captain Swing wants his revenge at the Solstice at Stonehenge!" - Inner City Unit "Uncle Sam is very humane, he'd do anything for anybody...? He'd put him out his misery, give him some nuclear death... Uncle Sam is very humane..." - Hawkwind __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 12:41:25 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:41:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: Judge Dredd "After Forever" Message-ID: boc-l, Been thinking about this one for awhile: One of my favorite Judge Dredd stories has to be the one where Judge Dredd is travelling across the Scorched Earth to Mega City 2 to get a cure for a plague that's destroying Mega City 1. He encounters a mining colony run by a violent and cruel slavedriver who treats his alien slaves as animals. The alien slaves are from strip mine colonies on alien planets. Judge Dredd asks a 'lil alien ant eater guy who carries rocks for the slave driver for directions and gets help. At some point later the ant eater alien drops a big rock and is cruelly and mercilessly and without reason beaten to death by the slave owner. Judge Dredd avenges the alien's death by murdering the slave owner and buries the cute 'lil alien guy, shedding a tear. Dredd holds a simple burial ceremony and mourns for a moment and says something like "I am sorry it had to be this way, little fellow. Our earth has suffered the holocaust and it is just the way it is supposed to be. Nobody is supposed to 'get it' in space travel. I am sorry we took your life on this planet. Rest in peace. Amen.". Judge Dredd shows his emotion with a short moment of silence and continues on his trek. Chr. "Captain Swing wants his revenge at the Solstice at Stonehenge!" - Inner City Unit "Uncle Sam is very humane, he'd do anything for anybody... He'd put him out his misery, give him some nuclear death... Uncle Sam is very humane..." - Hawkwind __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 12:37:18 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:37:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: MC5 - "Back In The USA" Message-ID: This album is such a gem. Songs like "Teenage Lust", "Looking At You" and "Shakin' Street" are such beautiful punk classics you can never forget this album, ever. Ron Tyner was a hero after all! Sweet. Just had this CD replaced a month back and just can't tear myself away from it and just had to mention it again. Chr. "Captain Swing wants his revenge at the Solstice at Stonehenge!" - Inner City Unit "Uncle Sam is very humane, he'd do anything for anybody... He'd put him out his misery, give him some nuclear death... Uncle Sam is very humane..." - Hawkwind __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Oct 8 13:14:57 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:14:57 -0400 Subject: BOC: "a good 70s band still rocking out" - the DVD In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20021008115058.006948e8@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: For those of us who won't be able to get the DVD for awhile, there's a clip of The Reaper up at http://www.sanctuaryrecords.com/ Ready for a record store run tonight, Brian -- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html "It's like an old comfortable shoe -- with a nail coming through it," Glen Matlock, on gigging with The Sex Pistols From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 8 13:22:22 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:22:22 EDT Subject: OFF: "any color you like as long as its black" - my new mohawk lasted for a month In-Reply-To: <20021008164447.86624.qmail@web21205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 8 Oct 2002, at 17:44, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: I also finally got > myself a new keyboard last week so I can actually type > messages like a normal human being again. Yep, Christian, you and the phrase 'normal human being' always spring to mind as a perfect match... theo From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 13:03:58 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:03:58 +0100 Subject: HW: "The Hawkwind Electric Library" has moved! Message-ID: dear boc-l'ers, The Hawkwind Electric Library has moved to http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/hawkwind.html , featuring loads of images and comics from Friends/Frendz and International Times as well as book and comic book covers. Linked from the site you can also find the Hawkwind 30th Anniversary Playlist and The Michael Moorcock Comix Index. Please update your links. Also visit Charlie Yuga's MAGIPUNKS website at http://bloomingdales1383.tripod.com/charlieyuga.html featuring live reviews of Vo?vod, Mot?rhead, Hawkwind, The Legendary Pink Dots, articles on Faith No More and Sisters Of Mercy as well as loads of magick nibbles of Hawkwind and other related bands. Chr. "Captain Swing wants his revenge at the Solstice at Stonehenge!" - Inner City Unit "Uncle Sam is very humane, he'd do anything for anybody...? He'd put him out his misery, give him some nuclear death... Uncle Sam is very humane..." - Hawkwind __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 13:54:46 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:54:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: from the archives of Van Der Graaf Generator Message-ID: boc-l, Like it or not, I just have to present some classic VdGG reviews from the band's second classic incarnation for y'all to pick through after picking your teeth with my previous post dissecting Peter Hammill's brilliant "In Camera" album lyric by lyric a few months back, its inhumanly transcribed catholic church splatter-dracula contents prompting Mike Holmes to call for my lithium! CLUB SANDWICH REVIEWS: VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR SPECIAL EDITION #666, CRACKLING ELECTRIC BRAIN GREASE X-RAY MULTIPLE FLIGHT TEST BONE-CONSTRUCT EDITION: Van Der Graaf Generator - "Godbluff" (Classic progressive gothrock masterpiece from 1975, the band's darkly organ-driven psychedelia hailing from their peak period of the mid-70's producing the excellent "Undercover Man", the awesome "Scorched Earth" and the closing nightmare delerium of "The Sleepwalkers" showcase Hammill at his most lyrical, sinister and demented.) Van Der Graaf Generator - "Still Life" (IMO their finest album, from 1976, being ageless and cosmic psychedelia, VdGG's heavy organ driven gothic sci-fi obsessions and peaking personal acid trips being exposed at their most exotic and complex, much of the album dealing with concepts like the death of mortality and infinity, godhood and eternal human obsessions, with central pieces like "Still Life" and "La Rossa" being the album's finer moments.) Van Der Graaf Generator - "World Record" (More variable song formats on this late classic VdGG era release from 1976, the album still has its prime Hammill moments, like "When She Comes", "Masks" and "Mergluys III (The Songwriter's Guild)", "Masks" in particular subtly demonstrating the classic basic punk chords predating the likes of The Damned, TSOL or Chaos UK.) Van Der Graaf Generator - "The Quiet Zone/The Pleasure Dome" (on one CD) (This rather weak twilight era effort of the band dates from 1977, the only worthwhile track being "Cat's Eye/Yellow Fever (Running)" showing this organ-less and violin-driven latter day version of the band still managing to sound like a musical nervous breakdown.) (c) Christian Mumford 2002 Chr. (still serving the SS minion by minion) ObCD: Venom - "The Best Of Venom" "Captain Swing wants his revenge at the Solstice at Stonehenge!" - Inner City Unit "Uncle Sam is very humane, he'd do anything for anybody... He'd put him out his misery, give him some nuclear death... Uncle Sam is very humane..." - Hawkwind __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From alfred.koessl at NETWAY.AT Tue Oct 8 14:32:25 2002 From: alfred.koessl at NETWAY.AT (Alfred K=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F6ssl?=) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 14:32:25 -0400 Subject: Pinkwind - Minehead 1993 Message-ID: Hello ! Does anyone know the exact recording date of this gig ? Thanks Alfred From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 14:40:14 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 19:40:14 +0100 Subject: OFF/HW: Passe-Partout lives again! Message-ID: boc-l, Just a short rant on everything life, culture, women, drugs and music from the struggling voice of the local underground reporter himself, Christian Mumford, an article of interest to Hawkwind fans and non-Hawkwind fans alike: Fall is a chilly season up here in Norway, a country likened to Canada. Kids are back in school and rainy days appear more often than not a cold precursor to winter. I bet Canada has alot of great TV channels. I don't watch much TV myself up here in Norway though we have alot of good TV channels, or so I figure in the last few years. I usually just go out to a bar or two for a few beers or score some speed down by the central train station in Oslo at nights as I no longer own a TV. Haven't caught a good band in awhile, though. Used to see Mot?rhead every time they passed through town. Urban life tends to be the same wherever you go in the world, really. New York City is great. I ate a great Paella with my girlfriend Jenny once at a spanish restaurant in the East Village. The wine of the house was excellent. When I invited her out for Indian at The Tandoori Village in Oslo I also ordered the wine of the house. The Tandoori there is excellent and the restaurant has an excellent atmosphere. In Copenhagen there is a great Viet-Namese restaurant which name escapes me. I lived on and off in Denmark over many summers in the late 80's and early 90's as my stepfather worked and lived outside Copenhagen for awhile. In Poland they bread their steaks, which is excellent, and I ate some incredibly tasty Polish cousine at a hotel outside Wroclaw, Poland when I was travelling Denmark, Holland, Germany and Poland by train in 1995. I also ate a great Ghoulash in at a restaurant in Wroclaw. Polish beer is called Piwo. In Lodz, I saw "The Killing Fields" overdubbed in Polish in my hotel room on TV. So-called "Irish" pubs in Lodz were like little well lit restaurant type environs with tables with plastic plaid tablecloth. Trying to find a decent place for a beer was hell as Lodz was full of these strange little "Irish pubs". The big discos in Poland are usually strange big well-lit ballrooms from the 1930's and 40's or just other underground discos in the city. I even went to a Polish bordello just to speak to someone who might have known something about my strange situation of being followed around Europe and conspired against, like a prostitute who might have known something. That was after questioning numerous Taxi drivers in East Berlin and in Wroclaw about my case in the previous week. I visited Dresden just to see the ruins from the war and it was fascinating as I was trying to get into Kurt Vonnegut's "Slaughterhouse Five" at the time. I read his "Galapagos" on the train from Denmark just for the trip. A few years later, in 1998, I saw Nik Turner perform with Swedish band The Moor at The Molotow in Hamburg. My friend Scott and I smoked a few joints with him before the show while interviewing him for psych/spacerock fanzine "Aural Innovations" in the US. The show was pretty crazy, and outside the venue there were loads of skinheads and punks loitering the streetcorners as if they were trying to tell us something. I'd read Julian Cope's "Krautrocksampler" on the train from Denmark to Hamburg. Well, that's Europe for y'all, probably miles away from any Stateside scene for goth or punk. As far as Canada goes, I've only been to Quebec, actually. I was only 12, though. The band Vo?vod hail from French-Canada, MOntreal I beleive, and they are one of my favorite bands. I saw 'em live in Oslo in November '97. I spoke to drummer Michel Langevin for a long awhile about obscure progrock after the show. Faith No More are another band I have seen many a time at muddy festivals outside Oslo and at venues in the city throughout the 90's. They always put on a great show. The first show I ever went to was Lenny Kravitz in Oslo in 1989, and he was really strung out on heroin. I later saw Hawkwind as a power trio at the same venue in 1991. Anyway, Canada probably has more in common with Europe than the US as far as urban life goes. When I lived in New Jersey in the early to mid 90's as an art student, we'd go to alot of go-go bars or just trip on LSD or smoke pot at our regular old party pad where we lived. I met a girl there I moved in with for awhile. She was almost kind of a goth, she had a Danzig tat over her ass and ran off with a bunch of bikers in The Pagans. She was a true New Jersey heavy metal girl and I was very much in love with her. I had a roommate there who was also almost kind of a goth. Tricky little guy. Most of my friends were punks, really, especially in second and third year of art school. What sucked about New Jersey were all the Puerto Ricans, none whom were goths either. You couldn't throw a Sisters Of Mercy CD around without any of them yelling "Salsa!". Anyway, Canada is bound have less Puerto Ricans as they probably can't get that far on a raft. That's Canada for ya, I guess. Will anyone here enjoy being a dark and mysterious couple going to Canada, then? Shopping for anything in particular? What are you looking to shop for? If nothing else, go for the local butcher's for fresh meat or any given flea market for a good selection of comics anywhere in the world and you are bound to find Puerto Ricans there too. I'm not really picking on Puerto Ricans in general, just one guy who was a roomate of mine in New Jersey who looked like a hooknosed liar replica of Ozzy Ozborne. He was a blonde curly haired and blue eyed fat Puerto Rican who did alot of cocaine and was a swine with the "Floodland" Sisters Of Mercy album and he played such a shitty guitar at his retarded cocaine frat parties and when he was such a lonely little loser. My first girlfriend Dorothea thought I looked like Wayne Hussey and the guy in Warrior Soul. She'd always say "awesome" and "cool" with a heavy New Jersey accent. I met her while she was dancing at a go-go bar called The Showplace and asked her to move in with me. After about the third time Dorothea and I had sex she asked me "So you don't have a girlfriend in Norway, somebody who is waiting for you?" I said "No. In fact you are the first girl I ever had sex with." She replied "I can't beleive that, it just wouldn't seem that way." Beautiful girl. Chr. ObCD: H?sker D? - "Zen Arcade" "Captain Swing wants his revenge at the Solstice at Stonehenge!" - Inner City Unit "Uncle Sam is very humane, he'd do anything for anybody... He'd put him out his misery, give him some nuclear death... Uncle Sam is very humane..." - Hawkwind __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 15:22:15 2002 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:22:15 +0100 Subject: Motorhead tour - is Hawkwind supporting? In-Reply-To: <000901c26d79$823866c0$4a4a893e@default> Message-ID: This getting ridiculous!!! Are HW supporting on all the dates or not???? Plans need to be made, a ticket needs to be sold, and I can't do a thing 'til I find out if HW are playing or not. No way do the band not know one way or another, so please can someone let us know??? cheers, Dave At 21:46 06/10/02, you wrote: >Posters are up all over Glasgow for the Motorhead gig which state that >Anthrax and Hawkwind are in support. No information on either Mission >Control or the Official Motorhead site. Rix - what's happening? > >Dave From roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 8 15:46:24 2002 From: roger.wynne-jones at VIRGIN.NET (Roger) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 20:46:24 +0100 Subject: Motorhead tour - is Hawkwind supporting? Message-ID: I spoke to Ali Davey's lady on Sunday night(Bedouin at Crewe) and she said the only Motorhead gig Hawkwind were definitely doing was Wembley. She also said that Hawkwind wanted to do Birmingham and Glasgow but nothing was confirmed, she seemed to point the finger at Motorheads publicity machine for the apparent "misinformation". possibly a ploy to sell tickets? btw Bedouin were AWESOME and Harvey played a blinding set in support. Simon was ill (women's problems? :-))and was missed I'm sure. cheers Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Motorhead tour - is Hawkwind supporting? > This getting ridiculous!!! Are HW supporting on all the dates or > not???? Plans need to be made, a ticket needs to be sold, and I can't do > a thing 'til I find out if HW are playing or not. No way do the band not > know one way or another, so please can someone let us know??? > > cheers, > Dave > > > > > > At 21:46 06/10/02, you wrote: > >Posters are up all over Glasgow for the Motorhead gig which state that > >Anthrax and Hawkwind are in support. No information on either Mission > >Control or the Official Motorhead site. Rix - what's happening? > > > >Dave > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Oct 8 15:46:39 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:46:39 EDT Subject: OFF: from the archives of Van Der Graaf Generator Message-ID: In a message dated 10/8/2002 2:16:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK writes: << Mike Holmes to call for my lithium! >> Don't ever mention a respectable persons name under your moniker, you CUNT....your not forgotten..check your back asshole. Best regards, Bill Stewart From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 16:25:05 2002 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:25:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind and Motorhead Message-ID: Hello Folks! Sorry about all the confusion surrounding these dates. We are definitely booked for Wembley. That was the only gig discussed with the promoters. Unfortunately it seems that some rather misleading advertising has gone out making it look as if we are playing at the other gigs. I have mailed the promoter about this, suggesting that as the advertising cannot be withdrawn in time, we should also play the dates for which we are advertised. As yet we have not heard back from him either way. I would take this as meaning that we are not playing them. If anything changes, we will post to this list and do an announcement on Mission Control immediately. As to the other gigs that are being advertised, we are in the process of booking a small winter tour which will run from 5th to 15th Dec. Walthamstow is confirmed and Brighton is 90% certain. As soon as the rest of the gigs are confirmed (hopefully by the end of the week) they will be announced here and on Mission Control. We apologise again for any confusion, but it is best to confirm gigs before announcing them. Please bear with us Thanks Kris :-) Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. From ande at FIELDSOFTHENEPHILIM.COM Tue Oct 8 16:16:01 2002 From: ande at FIELDSOFTHENEPHILIM.COM (Ande Tucker) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:16:01 -0700 Subject: OFF: For Sale - Hassan 7"s In-Reply-To: <200210080900.FAA21971@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I'm going to be selling my Hawkwind (and related collection) first up for sale Italy 7" - $250 Hassan I Sahba / Damnation Alley Part II record is mint, sleeve is 99% mint France 7" - $500 Hassan I Sahba / Fable of a Failed Race record is mint, no picture sleeve issued, but comes in one those record label generic sleeves with a basic design. Sleeve is VG, but does have some small writing in one corner prices include registered and insured mail anywhere in the world If interested contact me off list... Ande From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 8 16:39:44 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:39:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind and Motorhead Message-ID: >As to the other gigs that are being advertised, we are in the process of booking a small winter >tour which will run from 5th to 15th Dec. Walthamstow is confirmed and Brighton is 90% Cool! fits in just right with work commitments! Nick From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Oct 8 17:34:00 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 16:34:00 -0500 Subject: HW: xmas gig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: :Subject: HW: xmas gig : :Hi folks, : :How many folks are going to the xmas gig at Walthamstow? :Anyone interested in trying to stay in one place? :(like we did for the Astoria gig?) : :(figuring that it'd be easier if we start early for finding places this :year.) : Any others? The more folks we get, the better rate we are likely to see..... Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 17:49:27 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 22:49:27 +0100 Subject: Motorhead tour - is Hawkwind supporting? Message-ID: Ok, I rang the promotors (Metropolis Music) today and they say that Hawkwind are only playing at Wembley; they had no explanation as to why they are being advertised as playing at the other gigs. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Motorhead tour - is Hawkwind supporting? > This getting ridiculous!!! Are HW supporting on all the dates or > not???? Plans need to be made, a ticket needs to be sold, and I can't do > a thing 'til I find out if HW are playing or not. No way do the band not > know one way or another, so please can someone let us know??? > > cheers, > Dave > > > > > > At 21:46 06/10/02, you wrote: > >Posters are up all over Glasgow for the Motorhead gig which state that > >Anthrax and Hawkwind are in support. No information on either Mission > >Control or the Official Motorhead site. Rix - what's happening? > > > >Dave > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 8 18:19:00 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 23:19:00 +0100 Subject: HW: xmas gig Message-ID: > Any others? > > The more folks we get, the better rate we are likely to see..... > > Arin Count me in, Nick From denis at D-RIDER.DE Tue Oct 8 20:02:50 2002 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 18:02:50 -0600 Subject: HW: xmas gig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Arin, hi BOC-L, >Any others? > >The more folks we get, the better rate we are likely to see..... You can count me in as well. I think my sister will also be coming as well, with her being a London-fan and all... ;-) (c)IAO D+R From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Oct 9 05:20:13 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 05:20:13 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind and Motorhead Message-ID: Innocent question - aren't HW in the habit of taking legal action against promoters who advertise HW as appearing at gigs they're not booked for. I'm sure I read that somewhere? On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:25:05 +0100, Hawkwind wrote: >Hello Folks! > >Sorry about all the confusion surrounding these dates. > >We are definitely booked for Wembley. That was the only gig discussed with the promoters. Unfortunately it seems that some rather misleading advertising has gone out making it look as if we are playing at the other gigs. > >I have mailed the promoter about this, suggesting that as the advertising cannot be withdrawn in time, we should also play the dates for which we are advertised. As yet we have not heard back from him either way. I would take this as meaning that we are not playing them. If anything changes, we will post to this list and do an announcement on Mission Control immediately. > >As to the other gigs that are being advertised, we are in the process of booking a small winter tour which will run from 5th to 15th Dec. Walthamstow is confirmed and Brighton is 90% certain. As soon as the rest of the gigs are confirmed (hopefully by the end of the week) they will be announced here and on Mission Control. > >We apologise again for any confusion, but it is best to confirm gigs before announcing them. > >Please bear with us > >Thanks > >Kris :-) > > > > > >Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. From Scruton.Jason at DFA.STATE.NY.US Wed Oct 9 11:29:59 2002 From: Scruton.Jason at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Jason, Scruton) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:29:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: "fan interviews" Message-ID: Gotta say it. The first guy has got to make everyone on this list wince. But that's what always struck me as odd about BOC -- the mix between the Metalheads in the audience and well, ... non-metallic dudes who dig the group's strange, and unduplicated, form of intellectual horror-songs. For those who have attended BOC shows up to and including 1981, was the audience that way? enquiring minds want to rock, Jason PS: what do you all think of the split screen with the "lips in the hills" guy? From AgentOF at AOL.COM Wed Oct 9 11:51:31 2002 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:51:31 EDT Subject: BOC: "fan interviews" Message-ID: In a message dated 10/9/2002 10:31:10 AM Central Daylight Time, Scruton.Jason at DFA.STATE.NY.US writes: > PS: what do you all think of the split screen with the "lips in the hills" > guy? That was Phil, who goes by Wigster on some other fan's boards. (Besides a General "No Comment" ;-) I think that would have been better in the section with other fans singing. That would have been funny with the actual concert in the background. Overall, the video editing and sound is pretty friggin' GREAT! From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 9 11:55:33 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:55:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night Message-ID: Did any other listmembers attend the gig at the Islington Garage last night? Probably not, as the place was only half-full- a criminal shame, as this was a stupendous performance from Daevid Allen and his new cohorts. I went on my own- others were either uncontactable, or, in one case, unable to attend as his wife was having a baby- just about the only acceptable excuse! Support act was Richard Sinclair, of Caravan and Hatfield And The North semi-fame, playing a few acoustic numbers in a mellow jazzy style. This particular strand of pastoral English whimsy has never tickled my fancy and so it proved again last night- left me cold. But to be fair most seemed to enjoy it and he got a good reception. The most interesting thing that happened was someone in the audience joining in with some impromptu flute accompaniment. I think I have seen the flautist before, guesting onsatge with Acid Mothers Temple at the RFH a few months ago. But I digress. The U of E came on to a tape of circus-style music and indulged in a little clowning before getting down to the business in hand. It was superb. No doubt Mr Allen is a man of many parts but no New Age tweeness last night, this was loud'n'filthy avant-garde psychedelic punk with the band playing as if possessed. Josh Pollock is simply extraordinary, wrenching wild sheets of noise from his guitar. If you've heard Peter Laughner's playing on the early Pere Ubu singles, the guitar sound isn't a million miles away from that, but if anything even more unhinged, teetering on the edge of chaos but always *just* controlled enough- given the audacity of the musical risks being taken, it was remarkable that the band so rarely broke down into self-indulgence or incoherence. The drummer (whose name I didn't catch) was similarly uninhibited, and credit has to go to bassist Michael Clare (who looks oddly like the writer Will Self) for keeping it all together, seemingly impervious to the lunacy all around him. I struggle to give points of reference but if you can imagine Camembert-era Gong crossed with the MC5 and the Bonzo Dog band (a stretch I know) you're in the general area. What did they play? I can't give a complete setlist but most of the forthcoming "Ugly Music For Monica" album was aired, as I was able to confirm at home later with my newly acquired pre-release cd-r. This is easily the best album the band have recorded, it doesn't *quite* capture the full frenzy of the live attack- how could it- but it's the best thing Daevid has done for many years and if you have any interest in the man, you NEED this album. Other than that, some glorious and rarely-heard classics were given the Errorization treatment- barnstorming renditions of "Hope for Happiness", "Pot Head Pixies", "Pretty Miss Titty" and a superb rendition of Kevin Ayers' "Clarence in Wonderland"- for the first 30 seconds or so I thought this was going to be the Velvets' "Sister Ray"- yup we're talking *radical* turbo-charging of the old faves here. Current Gong sax-man Theo Travis came on to add to the sonic squall at one point, and it was by far the loosest and boldest playing I've heard from him. But the absolute standout highlight was "Fohat Digs Holes in Space", during which the venue took off and went into orbit around the Crab Nebula. If you've never heard the U of E's take on this ancient Gong classic, you must. You must! The band are due to play some dates in Sweden soon, but you shouldn't let a little thing like a few thousand miles keep you from seeing this amazing band. Especially as the University's financial situation would appear to be parlous- why else would they be selling pre-release cd-r's of the new album for a fiver each- this is a unique and quite brilliant band, and I implore anyone and everyone to get behind them. Tell your friends, tell your enemies, tell all the people you do not know. good afternoon NM From Joe.Lofft at ITEC.MAIL.SUNY.EDU Wed Oct 9 12:02:48 2002 From: Joe.Lofft at ITEC.MAIL.SUNY.EDU (Lofft, Joe) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:02:48 -0400 Subject: BOC: "fan interviews" Message-ID: I'm still waiting for my DVD to arrive. Is the audio on the DVD much better than the CD? The CD sounds ok, not great in my opinion.... -----Original Message----- From: [mailto:AgentOF at AOL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:52 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC: "fan interviews" In a message dated 10/9/2002 10:31:10 AM Central Daylight Time, Scruton.Jason at DFA.STATE.NY.US writes: > PS: what do you all think of the split screen with the "lips in the hills" > guy? That was Phil, who goes by Wigster on some other fan's boards. (Besides a General "No Comment" ;-) I think that would have been better in the section with other fans singing. That would have been funny with the actual concert in the background. Overall, the video editing and sound is pretty friggin' GREAT! From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Oct 9 13:20:38 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 19:20:38 +0200 Subject: HW: xmas gig Message-ID: Arin Komins wrote: > Any others? > > The more folks we get, the better rate we are likely to see..... > > Arin > -- Hi Arin, count me in! Andreas From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Oct 9 09:00:02 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 09:00:02 EDT Subject: OFF: I'm an IDIOT Message-ID: Sorry to all for the idiot posts. I'm an idiot..sorry. Best regards, Bill Idiot Stewart From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Oct 9 14:20:05 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:20:05 -0400 Subject: I'm an IDIOT Message-ID: No your not. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: OFF: I'm an IDIOT > Sorry to all for the idiot posts. I'm an idiot..sorry. > > Best regards, > Bill Idiot Stewart From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Oct 9 17:44:10 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:44:10 +0000 Subject: Hawkfest & OEB pics Message-ID: Check out pics from The Hawkfest at: http://headsmith.co.uk/index_files/page0011.htm OEBs live September 27th: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/njdrmr/lst?.dir=oebs&.view=t PS: Hi Darren!!! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From pwibrew13 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Oct 9 19:47:01 2002 From: pwibrew13 at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Peter Wibrew) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:47:01 +0100 Subject: Ozric Tentacles Festival Tree Message-ID: Here we go then, you've been wonderfully patient :) USA 1 (CA) Chris Stier cstier2001 at yahoo.com 1.1 (CA) Mason Demming mason at madwizard.net 1.1.1 (CA) Ken Beal noir43 at directtvinternet.com 1.1.2 (CA) Mike J Worthen fastcorvetteman9 at 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erpland.org 3.3.1 (MD) Dan Sheehan seeker1724 at yahoo.com 3.3.1.1 (ME) Harry Ripley hripley1 at maine.rr.com 3.3.1.2 (ME) Fred Taylor ftaylor540 at aol.com 3.3.2 (NH) Chris Raymond chrisr at tiac.net 3.3.2.1 (NH) Mike Ehlers nhmehlers at netscape.net 3.3.3 (FL) Chuck Johnson capcloud at hawklord.com 3.3.3.1 (FL) Darrin McKeehan hawkwind at attbi.com 3.3.3.2 (TN) Todd Adams minkslide at comcast.net UK 4 Mark Von Bargen mark.von-bargen at o2.co.uk 4.1 Dan Kijowski dankijowski at hotmail.com 4.2 Matthew Wade matthew.wade at strath.ac.uk 4.3 Peter Foster p_j_foster at hotmail.com 4.3.1 Colin Dodd colindodd at btinternet.com 4.3.2 Peter Deeming PDeeming at aol.com 4.3.3 Graham Glover hawkwind1999 at aol.com 4.3.3.1 Allan Merry allanm at medix-uk.com 4.3.3.2 Funky nvnar66 at ntlworld.com 5 Russell Castley R.Castley at btopenworld.com 5.1 Adam Loader adam.loader at homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk 5.2 Colin Bonfield cfbonfield at yahoo.co.uk 5.3 Gary Spanswick OzwaldTheOwl at aol.com 5.3.1 Mike Eldon mike at eldonm.freeserve.co.uk 5.3.2 Keith Firmston keithfirmston at madasafish.com 5.3.3 Mark Rumary rumary at iiss.org 5.3.3.1 Chris Christou christopher.christou at btopenworld.com 5.3.3.2 Rob Pullen rob at dreamworker.co.uk REST OF THE WORLD 6 (Australia) Bill Freeman freeaqua at iinet.net.au 6.1 (Australia) Doug Walsh notdixon at ihug.com.au 6.1.1 (Norway) Nils Ottar Molde zbambus at hotmail.com 6.1.1.1 (Greece) Christopher Arabatzis arabatzi at hist.auth.gr or danadaki at hist.auth.gr 6.1.1.2 (Belgium) Filip Vanhuyse filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be 6.2 (Germany) Rainer Knauer rknauer at kbv.de 6.2.1 (Japan) Tami yaphp at mbc.sphere.ne.jp So there you have it, discs are about to go out and in some cases already have gone out to the Master branches (1,2,3,4,5 and 6) It will be up to leaves to get in touch with branches etc and sort out trades etc. to help those not sure how it works....here's an example 2.3.2.3.1 will get discs from 2.3.2.3 2.3.2.3 will get discs from 2.3.2 2.3.2 will get discs from 2.3 2.3 will get discs from 2 who in turn will have got them from me .....see couldn't be easier :) The only other thing you will need is patience, and you've all shown you have plenty of that Because this is across several lists, all questions/problems should be directed to me please at pwibrew13 at blueyonder.co.uk Thank-you From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Oct 9 22:55:52 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:55:52 EDT Subject: HW Xmas party Message-ID: Just to give you an idea what it is like trying to book a flight to the UK from Australia even two months in advance. The el cheapest flight will total $2000 including taxes plus I'll have to spend a night in bali on the way back and pay for accomadation. Departs 1st December. Cant get back untill the 29 January. Anyone over there need a part time employee during these dates? :-) December to January. Maybe I should just give it a miss and hope that HW come to Oz early next year?? Or save for the next festival?? Absolutely nothing else available unless I wanto to go into the $2500 + tax price range and over and even then its getting booked out fast. From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Thu Oct 10 05:55:18 2002 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:55:18 +0200 Subject: BOC: Copenhagen 78 Message-ID: Hej, I just got a recording of Blue Oyster Cult from Falkoner Theatre, Copenhagen 1978 (I have the exact date but can't remember it off hand). Anyway, after Godzilla, I think it is, there is this really long bass solo by Joe and he plays many bars of Iron Man by Black Sabbath. I thought this was really cool... scott ObCD- Gas Giant- Pleasant Journey in Heavy Tunes PS. Gas Giant are playing some gigs in Germany next week if you are near by, check us out: Sunday 13th B - Leuven, Jh Sojo, http://orangefactory.cjb.net/ - Mon. 14th Bernkastel-Kues (Mosel), Beelzebub www.mamacool.de - Wed. 16th N?rnberg, Komm - Thu. 17th Dresden, New Beaz - Fr. 18th Herzberg (near Berlin), Ratskeller Heavy psychedelic space rock... From gg at NINJANET.COM Thu Oct 10 15:16:24 2002 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:16:24 +0200 Subject: HW Xmas party In-Reply-To: <1bd.1048cd75.2ad64639@aol.com> Message-ID: > Just to give you an idea what it is like trying to book a flight to > the UK from Australia even two months in advance. well, honor and glory to you if you are making this! I'm safing money for the concert of 3rd may/03 with the greatest lightning gig ever seen, but I live here in italy and it's easyer for me, even if i am a student without money. If you will come here in Italy, there will be a bed for you in my home :) ciao!, gg From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Oct 10 15:37:13 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:37:13 -0400 Subject: War of the worlds 2003 Message-ID: Is HW going to be playing each gig or just the Manchester one? Anyone know? Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pierluigi Fumi" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: HW Xmas party > > Just to give you an idea what it is like trying to book a flight to > > the UK from Australia even two months in advance. > > > well, honor and glory to you if you are making this! I'm safing money > for the concert of 3rd may/03 with the greatest lightning gig ever > seen, but I live here in italy and it's easyer for me, even if i am a > student without money. If you will come here in Italy, there will be a > bed for you in my home :) > > > ciao!, gg From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Oct 10 16:03:17 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:03:17 +0100 Subject: War of the worlds 2003 Message-ID: Just Manchester at the moment. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephe lindas" To: Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: War of the worlds 2003 > Is HW going to be playing each gig or just the Manchester one? Anyone know? > Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pierluigi Fumi" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:16 PM > Subject: Re: HW Xmas party > > > > > Just to give you an idea what it is like trying to book a flight to > > > the UK from Australia even two months in advance. > > > > > > well, honor and glory to you if you are making this! I'm safing money > > for the concert of 3rd may/03 with the greatest lightning gig ever > > seen, but I live here in italy and it's easyer for me, even if i am a > > student without money. If you will come here in Italy, there will be a > > bed for you in my home :) > > > > > > ciao!, gg > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Oct 10 16:55:04 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:55:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Ticketline Newsletter - Hawkwind (fwd) Message-ID: indie stars? I assume these are not confirmed, since they are not yet on MC, but fyi. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "info at ticketline.co.uk" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:29:05 --100 Subject: Ticketline Newsletter - COUNTING CROWS, Kylie, MORRISSEY, Hawkwind, A1 & Bowling For Soup To: akomins at uchicago.edu Ticketline Newsletter http://www.ticketline.co.uk Welcome to Ticketline Newsletter. Kylie is confirmed for this years Top of The Pops Awards in Manchester plus A1 will appear at some Smash Hits Tour venues. A full UK Tour is on sale for Counting Crows and Blackburn sees a special Morrissey gig. Other top gigs include Hawkwind on tour and new dates for Bowling for Soup --- Hawkwind * Indie stars Hawkwind return with 4 new tour dates. Tickets for Stoke and Bradford are on sale Saturday. Both other dates are available now. 05 Dec Stoke Victoria Hall - on sale Saturday http://www.ticketline.co.uk/event_details.asp?EventID=19129 06 Dec Manchester Academy 2/3 http://www.ticketline.co.uk/event_details.asp?EventID=18906 08 Dec Liverpool Lomax @ Courtyard http://www.ticketline.co.uk/event_details.asp?EventID=18987 09 Dec Bradford Rio - on sale Saturday http://www.ticketline.co.uk/event_details.asp?EventID=19116 ---- From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Oct 11 02:07:33 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 02:07:33 EDT Subject: HW Xmas party Message-ID: In a message dated Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:24:13 AEDT, Pierluigi Fumi writes: > > Just to give you an idea what it is like trying to book a flight to > > the UK from Australia even two months in advance. > > > well, honor and glory to you if you are making this! I'm safing money > for the concert of 3rd may/03 with the greatest lightning gig ever > seen, but I live here in italy and it's easyer for me, even if i am a > student without money. If you will come here in Italy, there will be a > bed for you in my home :) > > > ciao!, gg Cheers. Thats a kind offer :-) Same if you are ever in Australia! Mb From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Fri Oct 11 04:20:32 2002 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:20:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD Message-ID: Hi to one and all, I've been away from the list for some time and have only just rejoined. Lots happening in the HW camp at the mo, I'll just have to catch up with the WotW and new cd stuff. While I've been away, I bought the Snapper Music compilation 'Ambient Anarchists' Whilst posessing a moderate amount of HW cds, I don't have everything, and compared to the good folks on this list - I am but an amateur. :o) Can anyone identify the 3rd track on CD1, which is labelled as High Rise, but most certainly isn't. (Lyrics start with : "3 years ago our nova drive failed, and we drifted in space.....") Also, can anyone help me out where some of the tracks originally come from, such as the blinding version of Hasan I Sahba (sounds mid 90s with Alan Davey) Good to be back. (Even tho I did mess up registration - thanks Ben for sorting me out !) Cheers Neil - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri Oct 11 04:43:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:43:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw DVD Message-ID: 3-Lib DVD is pleased to present the whole of Huw Lloyd-Langton's acclaimed concert at the Standard, in Walthamstow, 18th April 2002, on DVD. This is an official production, with royalties going to Huw and Marion Lloyd-Langton. The gig at the Standard was extra special, capturing Huw on fire and feeling fine after a period of ill health. The guitar skills are dazzling and the sounds are amazing - not a bum note in 110 minutes of music! Huw was joined by Kenny Wilson (bass), John Clark (drums) and Gonzalo Carrera (keyboards), plus High Tide's Tony Hill on guitar for the encore. "Live at Walthamstow" features: - 110 minutes of DVD concert video - Desk-sourced, CD quality sound - Menus/chapters for easy access to any song - A slide-show, with music, of Huw through the ages(!) - Production notes Track list: Alien Jiggers / I could cry / Wars are the hobby there / Lonely Man / Outside the Law / Talk to you / Wind of change / Got your number / Rocky Paths / Waiting for tomorrow / Psychedelic Warlords / Hurry on Sundown Notes: this DVD was filmed and produced by fans for fans - although video quality is very good (and audio excellent), only one camera was used throughout - it's a great concert, but don't expect a big budget production! Note also that the DVD is actually a DVD-R disc - please make sure your set-top player can handle these (most can) before ordering! To purchase a copy of Huw Lloyd-Langton "Live at Walthamstow", please send a cheque for ?14 made payable to "3-Lib" to 3-Lib, 22 Grays Crescent, Woodley, RG5 3EN, United Kindgom. Note that this price includes worldwide postage to you. Steve Litchfield ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 11 04:44:41 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:44:41 +0800 Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD Message-ID: Hi Neil The song is PXR5 from the album of the same name. Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Shilladay" To: Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD > Hi to one and all, > I've been away from the list for some time and have only just rejoined. > Lots happening in the HW camp at the mo, I'll just have to catch up with > the WotW and new cd stuff. > > While I've been away, I bought the Snapper Music compilation 'Ambient > Anarchists' > > Whilst posessing a moderate amount of HW cds, I don't have everything, and > compared to the good folks on this list - I am but an amateur. :o) > > Can anyone identify the 3rd track on CD1, which is labelled as High Rise, > but most certainly isn't. > (Lyrics start with : > "3 years ago our nova drive failed, > and we drifted in space.....") > > Also, can anyone help me out where some of the tracks originally come from, > such as the blinding version of Hasan I Sahba (sounds mid 90s with Alan > Davey) > > Good to be back. > (Even tho I did mess up registration - thanks Ben for sorting me out !) > > Cheers > Neil > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of > the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group > unless otherwise specifically stated. > Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise > Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > message. > > If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in > error, please notify Microlise immediately. > > Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 > From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Oct 11 04:51:46 2002 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:51:46 +0200 Subject: Huw DVD Message-ID: SL states... > Notes: this DVD was filmed and produced by fans for fans - > although video quality is very good (and audio excellent), > only one camera was used throughout - it's a great concert, > but don't expect a big budget production! Note also that > the DVD is actually a DVD-R disc - please make sure your > set-top player can handle these (most can) before ordering! Is there a 'region-encoding' situation here? Will it play on a US (Region 1) device? He asks not knowing whether he'll ever own a Region 2 device and not actually having his DVD player (R1) with him at the moment, so only for future reference. Anyway, I'll probably get one of these DVDs and hold onto it until Xmas to see if I can play it when I get 'home.' Grakkl (FAA) From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Fri Oct 11 04:58:32 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:58:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD Message-ID: Hi Neil - welcome back >Can anyone identify the 3rd track on CD1, which is labelled as High Rise, >but most certainly isn't. It's PXR5. >Also, can anyone help me out where some of the tracks originally come from, >such as the blinding version of Hasan I Sahba (sounds mid 90s with Alan >Davey) This is probably my favourite version, despite snipping most of the first part of Assassins. It's the encore version from the 95 tour to be found on the Love in Space live album. I haven't got the AA CD in front of me but recall that a couple of tracks are Dave Brock solo (from Strange Trips & Pipe Dreams). I think I'm correct in saying that everything is available elsewhere bar the version of Love in Space which is taken, IIRC, from a TV broadcast. Dave From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Oct 11 06:40:17 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:40:17 EDT Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD Message-ID: Oh wow - something I know!! lol Track 3 is PXR5 In a message dated Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:24:35 AEDT, Neil Shilladay writes: > Hi to one and all, > I've been away from the list for some time and have only just rejoined. > Lots happening in the HW camp at the mo, I'll just have to catch up with > the WotW and new cd stuff. > > While I've been away, I bought the Snapper Music compilation 'Ambient > Anarchists' > > Whilst posessing a moderate amount of HW cds, I don't have everything, and > compared to the good folks on this list - I am but an amateur. :o) > > Can anyone identify the 3rd track on CD1, which is labelled as High Rise, > but most certainly isn't. > (Lyrics start with : > "3 years ago our nova drive failed, > and we drifted in space.....") > > Also, can anyone help me out where some of the tracks originally come from, > such as the blinding version of Hasan I Sahba (sounds mid 90s with Alan > Davey) > > Good to be back. > (Even tho I did mess up registration - thanks Ben for sorting me out !) > > Cheers > Neil > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of > the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group > unless otherwise specifically stated. > Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise > Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > message. > > If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in > error, please notify Microlise immediately. > > Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Oct 11 06:45:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 06:45:19 EDT Subject: HW: Huw DVD Message-ID: Fan frickin tastic man!! I have to have a copy!! What are the chances of getting a copy that is autographed by Huw??? I'll even send a special marker for the occasion? Pleasse, please!!??!! beg, grovel, snivel........ ;-) Cheers Michael In a message dated Fri, 11 Oct 2002 19:43:34 AEDT, Steve Litchfield writes: > 3-Lib DVD is pleased to present the whole of Huw Lloyd-Langton's acclaimed > concert at the Standard, in Walthamstow, 18th April 2002, on DVD. This is > an official production, with royalties going to Huw and Marion > Lloyd-Langton. > > The gig at the Standard was extra special, capturing Huw on fire and > feeling fine after a period of ill health. The guitar skills are dazzling > and the sounds are amazing - not a bum note in 110 minutes of music! Huw > was joined by Kenny Wilson (bass), John Clark (drums) and Gonzalo Carrera > (keyboards), plus High Tide's Tony Hill on guitar for the encore. > > "Live at Walthamstow" features: > - 110 minutes of DVD concert video > - Desk-sourced, CD quality sound > - Menus/chapters for easy access to any song > - A slide-show, with music, of Huw through the ages(!) > - Production notes > > Track list: Alien Jiggers / I could cry / Wars are the hobby there / > Lonely Man / Outside the Law / Talk to you / Wind of change / Got your > number / Rocky Paths / Waiting for tomorrow / Psychedelic Warlords / Hurry > on Sundown > > Notes: this DVD was filmed and produced by fans for fans - although video > quality is very good (and audio excellent), only one camera was used > throughout - it's a great concert, but don't expect a big budget > production! Note also that the DVD is actually a DVD-R disc - please make > sure your set-top player can handle these (most can) before ordering! > > To purchase a copy of Huw Lloyd-Langton "Live at Walthamstow", please send > a cheque for ?14 made payable to "3-Lib" to 3-Lib, 22 Grays Crescent, > Woodley, RG5 3EN, United Kindgom. Note that this price includes worldwide > postage to you. > > Steve Litchfield > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri Oct 11 07:49:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:49:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw DVD Message-ID: Yes, the Huw DVD will play on all regions, as long as your video output device supports the PAL system. Steve Litchfield From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 11 08:46:58 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:46:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD In-Reply-To: Neil Shilladay's message of Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:20:32 +0100 Message-ID: Neil Shilladay writes: > Hi to one and all, > I've been away from the list for some time and have only just rejoined. > Lots happening in the HW camp at the mo, I'll just have to catch up with > the WotW and new cd stuff. > > While I've been away, I bought the Snapper Music compilation 'Ambient > Anarchists' > > Whilst posessing a moderate amount of HW cds, I don't have everything, and > compared to the good folks on this list - I am but an amateur. :o) > > Can anyone identify the 3rd track on CD1, which is labelled as High Rise, > but most certainly isn't. PXR5 > Also, can anyone help me out where some of the tracks originally come from, > such as the blinding version of Hasan I Sahba (sounds mid 90s with Alan > Davey) You need The Hawkwind Codex. Hassan I Sabha 1 Quark Strangeness And Charm 1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] 1 Tales From Atom Henge 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology 1 a Hassan I Sabha/Damnation Alley Part 2 Italian 7" 1 a Hassan I Sabha/Fable of a Failed Race 7" L 2 a Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 {Assassins of Allah} L 2 b Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line 3 Out And Intake {Assassins of Allah} 3 Official Picture Logbook {Assassins of Allah} 3 Night Of The Hawk {Assassins of Allah} L 4 Live At Reading '86 L 4 Italian "Vinile" freebie single {Assassins of Allah} L 4 Assassins of Allah LP L 5 Glastonbury 90 {Assassins of Allah} L 6 The Never Ending Story of The Psychedelic Warlords {Assassins of Allah} L 6 a California Brainstorm {Assassins of Allah} L 7 Lords of Light, Kings of Speed L 8 Rock City {Hashish} L 9 Love In Space {Assassins} L 9 The Ambient Anarchists {Assassin} L 10 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] L 11 Strange Daze '97 * 1a is an edit of 1 * 2a and 2b are from the same tour * 6 and 6a are from the same tour * 9 is the segue at the end of Space Is Their Palestine So it's the version form the Love In Space live album. Cheers FoFP From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Fri Oct 11 09:41:55 2002 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:41:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD Message-ID: To all who replied to my questions :- Thanks for all the info - I should've guessed the track, seems I have a fair bit of catching up to do. Cheers Neil. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 11 09:41:34 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 21:41:34 +0800 Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD Message-ID: Lots of listening with headphones :-) Sounds like my kind of fun Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Shilladay" To: Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: Re: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD > To all who replied to my questions :- > Thanks for all the info - I should've guessed the track, seems I have a > fair bit of catching up to do. > > Cheers > Neil. > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of > the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group > unless otherwise specifically stated. > Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise > Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > message. > > If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in > error, please notify Microlise immediately. > > Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Oct 11 11:43:39 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:43:39 EDT Subject: Light Shows in UK Message-ID: Hi Does anyone have any info on various types of Light Shows banned in the UK? thanxs Bill From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Fri Oct 11 12:09:19 2002 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 18:09:19 +0200 Subject: OFF: Guru Guru review Message-ID: GURU GURU - Laboratorium "30 Jahrestag" concert series (Stuttgart, Germany) - 5 October, 2002 So, my first true krautrock gig! And not a bad choice to have made for this special occasion. And no, the 30th anniversary mentioned above is not for Guru Guru themselves (that event occurred at Finkenbach '98; check out the fine live document from that show on Funfundvierzig LP or Captain Trip CD!), but rather a special selection of shows at the Laboratorium celebrating *their* 30th birthday. I found the place to be a quaint little club built inside what seemingly was a sizable two-car garage in a previous life. Decorated in black and white a la a piano keyboard on the one side, the structure is behind, yet attached to, a separate bar that I quickly discovered was *far* too small for any possibility of live entertainment. But in any case, even the "Lab" itself was not quite large enough for the 200 or more patrons to fit comfortably, so we all wedged our way into every nook and cranny of the place to catch Mani Neumeier's current four-piece psychedelic-flavored world ensemble. Arriving at just past 8 PM, I was surprised to see that the stage contained only Guru Guru's equipment and no hint of any warmup act. (Nights seem to be shorter here at clubs given the nature of the critical public transportation.) The program was set to begin at 8:30, so I thought certainly the night wouldn't be that early, but then that turned out to exactly be the case since the 2:10 set did end just before 11 PM. I think the long duration of this club must also be predicated upon not annoying the neighbors with late night gigs! So, I had only a short time to sample the local brew of Stuttgart, which is Dinkel Acker CDPils. Sadly, it wasn't quite what I'd hoped, a rather bland sort of thing and I will stick with my newly-discovered local Swiss concoction from Rheinfelden that is Feldschl?sschen Hopfenperle. Challenging to pronounce, but enjoyable to consume. OK, yeah, the music! So, upon fighting through the crowd themselves, the Guru Guru four alit upon the stage and armed themselves with the instruments of choice. Before the others were ready, Mani himself took off and performed an ad hoc solo as a warmup exercise. Roland Schaeffer, a long-time multi-talented sidekick (who spent some time in Brainstorm way back in the early days of krautrock lore) pulled out what appeared to be a floor lamp sans the shade. A subsequent perusal of Guru Guru liner notes suggests that the double-reeded 'oboe -on-steroids' is really called a 'nadaswaram.' In any case, the winding lyrical lines of the opening piece "Iddli Killer" were perfectly suited to the nasally-toned snake-charming instrument. Another track from the 1995 album 'Wah Wah' got more of the band involved, with "Rastafari in Bayuvari" showing off Mani's quirky humor and his ability to work a microphone and a pair of drumsticks simultaneously. Next, Neumeier came out from behind his phalanx of cymbals with a single floor tom in hand to be the true frontman for "Living in the Woods." This one, a tribal number with the 'drumming man' himself claiming to 'make us happy' was a mellow affair and luckily the crowd was appreciative of such subtlety as to not talk entirely over the performance. (Man, I really hate when that happens and in clubs of this sort, it usually does...well, at least in the states.) Somewhere around this time, Mani debuted his signature 'duck' and attempted to make a band intro through said vocal-altering device. Luckily I didn't have to rely on this introduction for my review. Guru Guru quickly re-established a rocking pace with the straightforward "Jet Lag" and "Moshi Moshi," some more material from the mid-1990s. While these tracks worked well to establish momentum, it was the more colorful and earthy flavors of the band that provided superior treats for the more refined ear. "Marabut" from the newest offering '2000 Gurus' was one such moment, Schaeffer now taking lead vocal duties. Fortunately, we weren't offered any of the processed beats and loops that the group tried (with mixed results) to add to their style on that particular album - this was a true rock show as it should have been. The second half of the show produced most of the true highlights - Mani recounted (speaking in English oddly enough) that we'd visited India, the Caribbean, the Orient, etc., and now it's time to travel to space. And so the wondrous "Space Baby" (seen previously on the '30 Jahre Live' recording) was brought forth with a long intro of cosmogenic noodling and swirling (all without synths) countered finally by several bouts with the hard-hitting chorus. Eventually, after some more laid-back jamming, the foursome reached the finale piece, a rousing 15-minute version of "Ooga Booga" (from the 1972 'Kanguru' album) with a interesting and brief solo bit by Neumeier (including more 'duck-work' and 'mouth percussion'). Hans Reffert, a 'jack-of-all-trades' sort of guitarist, along with Schaeffer (now on guitar himself) together finally turned up the amps together to reach full potential and so the finishing bars were quite a flurry of psychedelic sounds. The crowd reacted strongly at set's end and rather than fight their way through to the dressing room, they simply turned around (after a quick bow) and began again. After playing a newer rock tune I didn't recognize, Mani escaped to the back finally and bassist Peter Kuhmstedt began to play the familiar monotone riff from "Der Elektrolurch." With Neumeier reappearing in a gold-sequined costume and funny decorative headpiece (complete with blinking LED lights), the band proceeded to ad lib for quite awhile with the bass riff continuing, but they never really did play the bulk of the song in earnest. A second encore offered mainly Reffert a chance to play his lap steel guitar to a jazzy backdrop, and for me that was rather anti-climactic given my disinterest in this instrument (due to its 'country' flavors I suppose). All-in-all, my first rock show in Germany was a great success, and I didn't mind the light rain falling as I made my way back to my hotel room down the street. My clothes smelled terribly like cigarette smoke (even moreso than in the US...too many people over here smoke!) but they'd get cleaned soon enough. In the morning, the rain still fell and I took my time getting myself motivated to explore Stuttgart accordingly, and then discovered while enjoying my complementary breakfast that I was sharing the hotel with the band. But I decided not to bother Hans and Roland while they enjoyed their quiet morning with coffee and croissants (Mani seemed to be a late sleeper), and instead simply took my leave and eventually made my way back to the Hauptbahnhof and points south. The merchandising after the show was very limited (a nice Guru Guru history book was offered that I would have gladly purchased if it wasn't completely in German), but I did snag their last copy of the 1995 album 'Wah Wah' which features some of the better 'new' tracks they played this night. So my hope now is that the Finkenbach festival (that I believe Guru Guru is largely responsible for, but I could be wrong about that) is on again for 2003, as I'd like to see them again soon, preferably in a place with more fresh air and elbow room. And 'hoppier' beer. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Oct 11 12:08:33 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:08:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: 'Watch your implants!' - porn star warned before boxing Sam Fox Message-ID: Yup - there are pics too! ;-) http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_688299.html?menu=news.quirkies A porn star has been warned her silicone implants could be damaged when she steps into the ring with Samantha Fox for a televised boxing match. Gina Wild will take on Fox in a three round bout on German station RTL's live Celebrity Boxing night on 26 October. Dr Thomas Jansen, who gave Wild her D-cup implants in 1998, told German paper Bild: "Although modern implants can withstand a great deal, the risk of them being damaged when boxing can never be ruled out." Fox, now 36, also has the added advantage of being trained in Thai boxing. She said: "I think I am fit and well-prepared for the fight because of my training. I'm looking forward to the adrenalin kick I'll get in the ring and I hope I win." Story filed: 12:14 Friday 11th October 2002 From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Oct 11 15:00:22 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:00:22 -0400 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual Insert Message-ID: Has anyone sent off for the updated Yule Ritual cd insert which VP are sending out to anyone who writes to them asking for one? (It was mentioned on Mission Control) And if so, is there any significant difference from the original artwork? Cheers Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Oct 11 17:04:00 2002 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:04:00 -0600 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual Insert In-Reply-To: <20021011185912.UXMM3957.wmpmta03-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual> Message-ID: I sent an email to VP and got the insert (along with their sampler cd.) Haven't done a side by side comparison of the inserts. another Mark -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mick Crook Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 1:00 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Yule Ritual Insert Has anyone sent off for the updated Yule Ritual cd insert which VP are sending out to anyone who writes to them asking for one? (It was mentioned on Mission Control) And if so, is there any significant difference from the original artwork? Cheers Mick May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Oct 11 19:19:13 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:19:13 +0100 Subject: HW: IITBOTFTBD (was: Sonic Attack) In-Reply-To: ; from chrisr@TIAC.NET on Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 06:14:01PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 06:14:01PM -0400, Chris Raymond typed out: > I think Living on a Knife Edge is a completely great HW song. I would die > happy if this was played live someday. I love this album too. My least > favorite HW album was always IITBOTFTBD. > I have not listened to it for many years, I should check it out. That's ironic, what with `Living On A Knife Edge' being recycled for that album. Or is that why you dislike it so? I admit at this time that _Space Bandits_ and IItBotFTBD are the two core HW albums I don't have. All the others but not those, in some official form or other. Oh, and _Live 79_ but that's just out of being useless rather than actual policy. But of those two I've heard so many bad reviews that I have to have money to hand I'm willing to chuck away before I'll chance it. Things of musical note I have been spending on of late, Queens of the Stone Age's _Songs for the Deaf_ which is utterly marvellous and I will brook no argument on this; Magic Muscle's _Gulp_ which *ought* to be great given the people involved but really really isn't, Farflung's _Nine Pin Body_ which everyone needs but why oh why can't he do both AL and Farflung for heavens sakes? and Chrome's _Tidal Forces: no Humans Allowed Pt 2_, my first Chrome ever and knowingly the reformed version but firstly it has Grenas again and that's generally fairly safe (The Brain excepted) and secondly it's on Man's Ruin so I'll never ever see it again. Things I would be spending on if they were yet anywhere I could buy them: Blue Oyster Cult's _Long Day's Night_, Porcupine Tree's _In Absentia_ (OK, yes, I could get both these on import, but I want to buy them both in a shop by way of propaganda and also I'm not getting the PT one till I know that the UK version I could wait for won't have extra tracks on, burnt one too many times by that outfit) and Bedouin's self-titled, which I see Alan is advertising as a Voiceprint re-release but I haven't yet see float through any mail-order lists I peruse. But I digress, dear friends, I digress... Yours, Jon ObCD: Kyuss - _Blues For The Red Sun_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Oct 11 19:41:02 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:41:02 +0100 Subject: BOC: weird detective story about BOC with photos In-Reply-To: <20020914174256.65174.qmail@web40202.mail.yahoo.com>; from soltanic@YAHOO.COM on Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 10:42:56AM -0700 Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 10:42:56AM -0700, Allen Shaw typed out: > Just ran across a weird blue oyster cult story > about one of their shows written like a detective > story. Sounds like Humphrey Bogart. Even has photos. > > http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue20/action06.html That seems to be part two of a series which started with a Motorhead review a while back, I think also in AI. I do wonder what Roger Neville-Neil does with his time that he seems to have enough left over for this sort of stuff... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From chrisr at TIAC.NET Fri Oct 11 22:55:02 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:55:02 -0400 Subject: Studio Album In-Reply-To: <17qYZP-1fURCiC@fwd09.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: I think it is very nice that HW are playing these upcoming gigs, but when are we going to have a new album to buy!!!! I will be happy too buy all the live albums and stuff, but what about this new album we have been hearing about for an eternity? I looked on MC and did not see a reference to it (although I am sure there is one) Does anyone have a clue about the status of this project? Also, is this the Death Generator project? Although we heard from those suspicious emails that were floating around that Mike Moorcock is not on good terms with Dave Brock, it still says on MC that they are collaborating, I copied this from MC: ------------- FUTURE PLANS: Our current project is ? Destruction of The Death Generator? which is being written in conjunction with Michael Moorcock. We have been working in conjunction with both Mike Moorcock and Mike Butterworth, and we are now in the process of rehearsing the material, which will hopefully be recorded in the spring. Following rehearsals of the stage show, the band will tour late summer. The line up will contain the current nucleus, coupled with some past members who have featured in the band during the past 30 years, similar to the highly successful Y2k Hawkestra event at the Brixton Academy. We are also currently reviewing plans to do another tour of Australia & New Zealand, maybe later in the year...... --------------- So does this mean that here is a studio album that has already been recorded and about to be released, and then the Death Generator to be released later in 2003? Sorry to sound unhappy, but I have gotten fat, old and grey since In your Area was released. Finally, I hope that when there is a new album to buy, that it will available in stores instead of just by mailorder. Take care, Chris From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Oct 12 01:52:09 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 01:52:09 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: Passe-Partout lives again! Message-ID: In a message dated 10/8/02 11:46:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK writes: > boc-l, > Just a short rant on everything life, culture, women, > drugs and music from the struggling voice of the local > underground reporter himself, Christian Mumford, an > article of interest to Hawkwind fans and non-Hawkwind > fans alike: > Maybe I'm nuts, too, but I actually found this a quite touching narrative. You're a very good writer, Chris, and while some people here indeed hate your guts (including myself when the mood takes me), your posts are still occasionally intriguing...hang in there, and continue to _try_ to remain a palatable flavour here on boc-l by off-setting the occasional shades of (OK, _possibly_ ironic) racism by seemingly-sincere bursts of wit, originality and sentiment, before Ben finally gives you the boot. Chuck From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Oct 12 02:37:55 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 08:37:55 +0200 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual Insert In-Reply-To: <20021011185912.UXMM3957.wmpmta03-app.mail-store.com@wmpmta virtual> Message-ID: Hi Mick At 15:00 11.10.2002 -0400, you wrote: >Has anyone sent off for the updated Yule Ritual cd insert >which VP are sending out to anyone who writes to them asking for one? (It was mentioned on Mission Control) >And if so, is there any significant difference from the original >artwork? YES, there are lot of changes If you need more details please let me know cheers Bernhard From gg at NINJANET.COM Sat Oct 12 04:22:00 2002 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:22:00 +0200 Subject: HW: collection: what must i buy now? Message-ID: Goodmorning technician of space! I have this HW's CD, but i think there are more and more and more LP i should have... so, can you conseil me? ah, the CD with * are copied... do you know where I can buy original? the CD with ** are copied but I found them in an Italian catalogue, so i will ordine them soon :) thanks a lot!, gg Hawkwind In Search of Space Doremi Fasol Latido Space Ritual Hall of the mountain grill the 1999 party This is hawkwind, do not panic Hawklords live Live 79 Zones Live chronicles (the EMI version of 1 cd + the bonus CD) DVD - the chronicle of the black sword Palace Springs Xenon Codex Space Bandits Acid daze - volume 3 Live - bootleg Live and Rare DVD - live (castle collection series) Yule Ritual Warrior on the edge of time * PXR5 * Levitation ** Sonick Attack * Choose you masques * Church of Hawkwind * Chronicles of the black sword * Live Chronicles (the complete 2 CD album) * Out and Intake * Electric Tapee ** It is the business of the future to be dangerous ** Alien 4 * Love in space * Distant Horizons * Best of friends and relations * From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Oct 12 06:40:57 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 06:40:57 EDT Subject: HW: Yule Ritual Insert Message-ID: In a message dated Sat, 12 Oct 2002 06:00:47 AEDT, Mick Crook writes: Yeah I got mine in. There are significant changes but I will have to check them when I go home. Its worth getting and its free so why not, hey? > Has anyone sent off for the updated Yule Ritual cd insert > which VP are sending out to anyone who writes to them asking for one? (It was mentioned on Mission Control) > And if so, is there any significant difference from the original artwork? > > Cheers > Mick > > May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jr. > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Oct 12 06:46:02 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 06:46:02 EDT Subject: HW: IITBOTFTBD (was: Sonic Attack) Message-ID: In a message dated Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:20:07 AEDT, Jonathan Jarrett writes: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 06:14:01PM -0400, Chris Raymond typed out: > > I think Living on a Knife Edge is a completely great HW song. I would die > > happy if this was played live someday. I love this album too. My least > > favorite HW album was always IITBOTFTBD. > > I have not listened to it for many years, I should check it out. > > That's ironic, what with `Living On A Knife Edge' being recycled > for that album. Or is that why you dislike it so? > > I admit at this time that _Space Bandits_ and IItBotFTBD are the > two core HW albums I don't have. All the others but You should still be able to get those items. At least the last time I looked a few sources had them available. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Oct 12 07:02:52 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 07:02:52 EDT Subject: HW: collection: what must i buy now? Message-ID: In a message dated Sat, 12 Oct 2002 19:20:24 AEDT, Pierluigi Fumi writes: > Goodmorning technician of space! > > I have this HW's CD, but i think there are more and more and more LP i > should have... so, can you conseil me? > ah, the CD with * are copied... do you know where I can buy original? > the CD with ** are copied but I found them in an Italian catalogue, so > i will ordine them soon :) > > thanks a lot!, gg > > Hawkwind > In Search of Space > Doremi Fasol Latido > Space Ritual > Hall of the mountain grill > the 1999 party > This is hawkwind, do not panic > Hawklords live > Live 79 > Zones > Live chronicles (the EMI version of 1 cd + the bonus CD) > DVD - the chronicle of the black sword > Palace Springs > Xenon Codex > Space Bandits > Acid daze - volume 3 > Live - bootleg > Live and Rare > DVD - live (castle collection series) > Yule Ritual > > > Warrior on the edge of time * Best bet - ebay... but expect to pay top dollar. If you do try bidding there and it is a Griffin release email the seller and ask them if they know if it is the Griffin misspress. I got caught out with a sealed box warrior set of the misspressed cd. But what the hell. Its a collectable I spose and the book is kinda cool. > PXR5 * Same again. Ebay. Expect the bidding to go quite high > Levitation ** Check with Andy G or Zeitgeist the rocker - they may still have some copies. Else Amazon .com might still have copies. > Sonick Attack * Same as above. Or try Cranium music in new zealand. Richard might still have one or two if you are lucky. Failing that head over to Ebay. > Choose you masques * Same as sonic attack. > Church of Hawkwind * Amazon.com might definatly still have it. Or Andy G at Cd Services? > Chronicles of the black sword * I managed to score my copy from Andy G at CD services. Prolly sold out bu now. If he doesn't have it I think you'll have to go to ebay. > Live Chronicles (the complete 2 CD album) * I found this at my local music shop. Shock!! Gasp!! I nearly fainted. Should still be easy to locate. > Out and Intake * Andy G or Zeitgeist the rocker or Amazon.com > Electric Tapee ** Same as Out and intake. > It is the business of the future to be dangerous ** I got mine from Amazon over a year ago. > Alien 4 * Good luck. Probably ebay. I've got two copies but I absolutely love this album and would only part with one of my copies to get one of the few cd's I lack in my collection. > Love in space * Good luck again ;-) If you do find a source other than ebay let me know - I'd love to have an extra copy of it as a "personal paranoia" back up. I love this album as well. > Distant Horizons * Andy G at CD services - Zeitgeist or Amazon .com failing the first two sources. > Best of friends and relations * Should be an easy one to locate. Try CD services. I think my local "cool/alternative" music shop has a copy. If I recall correctly its about $30 or $35 AU From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Oct 12 04:42:15 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 09:42:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: Legendary Pink Dots - "Faces In The Fire" was about me around age 10-11 in the early 80's. Message-ID: Legendary Pink Dots - "Faces In The Fire" was about me around age 10-11 in the early 80's. Yes, 100% completely true. The three first tracks off the album are about me at our east side apartment in Waldemar Thranes gate in Oslo on the east side. I was a test kid in NATO as my father was in the US Navy and I was the Stainless Steel Rat. I lived with my mother as my father lived in the US as my parents were divorced. Christian crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sat Oct 12 10:28:06 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:28:06 -0400 Subject: HW: IITBOTFTBD (was: Sonic Attack) In-Reply-To: <20021012001913.B5597@chiark.greenend.org.uk>; from jjarrett@CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK on Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 12:19:13AM +0100 Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 12:19:13AM +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > I admit at this time that _Space Bandits_ and IItBotFTBD are the > two core HW albums I don't have. [...] > I've heard so many bad > reviews that I have to have money to hand I'm willing to chuck away before > I'll chance it. Well I for one like Business a lot; it's just the acronym that sucks :-) But then, I'm into trancy stuff in just about any form -- everything from the SR version of MotU (mind-numbingly repetetive, but that's a lot of its appeal for me), to Autobahn, to Nusrat, to Frank Marino guitar solos (just discovered at Mahogany Rush's recent gig here; go figure), to twenty djembe players going like snot at a fire circle playing the same beat for an hour. Do try to find someone to play Business for you before writing it off completely... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The acronym for "the powers that be" differs by only one letter from that for "the pointy-haired boss". From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 12 10:39:40 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 22:39:40 +0800 Subject: HW: IITBOTFTBD (was: Sonic Attack) Message-ID: I believe Space Bandits in particular to be an excellent album. For me it's actually up there with the best of them! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" To: Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 7:19 AM Subject: Re: HW: IITBOTFTBD (was: Sonic Attack) > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 06:14:01PM -0400, Chris Raymond typed out: > > I think Living on a Knife Edge is a completely great HW song. I would die > > happy if this was played live someday. I love this album too. My least > > favorite HW album was always IITBOTFTBD. > > I have not listened to it for many years, I should check it out. > > That's ironic, what with `Living On A Knife Edge' being recycled > for that album. Or is that why you dislike it so? > > I admit at this time that _Space Bandits_ and IItBotFTBD are the > two core HW albums I don't have. All the others but not those, in some > official form or other. Oh, and _Live 79_ but that's just out of being > useless rather than actual policy. But of those two I've heard so many bad > reviews that I have to have money to hand I'm willing to chuck away before > I'll chance it. > > Things of musical note I have been spending on of late, Queens of > the Stone Age's _Songs for the Deaf_ which is utterly marvellous and I > will brook no argument on this; Magic Muscle's _Gulp_ which *ought* to be > great given the people involved but really really isn't, Farflung's _Nine > Pin Body_ which everyone needs but why oh why can't he do both AL and > Farflung for heavens sakes? and Chrome's _Tidal Forces: no Humans Allowed > Pt 2_, my first Chrome ever and knowingly the reformed version but firstly > it has Grenas again and that's generally fairly safe (The Brain > excepted) and secondly it's on Man's Ruin so I'll never ever see it again. > > Things I would be spending on if they were yet anywhere I could > buy them: Blue Oyster Cult's _Long Day's Night_, Porcupine Tree's _In > Absentia_ (OK, yes, I could get both these on import, but I want to buy > them both in a shop by way of propaganda and also I'm not getting the PT > one till I know that the UK version I could wait for won't have extra > tracks on, burnt one too many times by that outfit) and Bedouin's > self-titled, which I see Alan is advertising as a Voiceprint re-release > but I haven't yet see float through any mail-order lists I peruse. > > But I digress, dear friends, I digress... Yours, > Jon > > ObCD: Kyuss - _Blues For The Red Sun_ > -- > Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -------------------------------------------------------- > "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) > From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Oct 12 11:00:39 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:00:39 -0400 Subject: Looking for Chuck from FL In-Reply-To: <001e01c271fd$3326f190$fbd13bcb@xl5> Message-ID: If you are still on the list please e-mail me privately Thanks Mikemont at nycap.rr.com _____________________________________________ Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. -- Charles Kuralt From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Oct 12 13:19:15 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:19:15 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind - Free Time of The Hawklords Message-ID: Good Evening I have a spare copy of the Michael Butterworth book The Time of the Hawklords which I don't need and so would like to pass on to a good home for absolutely no money except maybe postage (otherwise it goes down the PDSA shop to end it's days on ashelf full of Mills & Boon paperbacks and Perry Como albums). This is the Collectors Guide Publishing edition that came free with the Warrior boxset issued by Griffin in 1995 (no spare boxset though). If anyone is interested please mail me off list. UK folks get priority as postage will be cheaper. AL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Oct 12 14:07:32 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 14:07:32 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 10/5 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: For comments/questions/requests, before, during or after the program, e-mail me at: . 1.Escapade "Eclipse in Carbon" (Rule #3; Submergence; thanks to Hadley!) 2.Amon Duul II "Ladies Mimicry" (BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert; Windsong) 3.Vas Deferens Org/Electric Co "Hushed Plateau of Gelid Elves/Snappy Smarm" (More Pelvis Wick for the Baloney Boners; Tekito) 4.Robot vs. Rabbit "I have been an Axe in the Hand/Because his Art is Slender as His Youth" (Trading the Witch for the Devil; Mandra Gora) 5.Census of Hallucinations "Where?" (Sixth Sense; Stone Premonitions) 6.Drunken Gunmen "Fractal Parsecs" (Journey to the Far Side of the Sun EP; Spaced Out Sounds; thanks to DGM!) 7.High Rise "Mira" (Cosmic Harushi Monsters Vol. 1 comp; Virgin) 8.Faust "Don't Take Roots" (71 Minutes; ReR) 9.Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band "Dropout Boogie" (Safe as Milk) 10.Charles Manson "Mechanical Man" (Lie) 11.ST 37 "When You were Dreaming" (Nunavut; Blue Circle) 12.Cosmic Couriers "Dat Loop" (Other Places; Hypnotic/Cleopatra) 13.Korai Orom "track #4" (Sound and Vision 2000) 14.Popol Vuh "Segnung" (Hosianna Mantra; ZYX/Ohr) 15.Space Team Electra "Helios" (Vortex Flower; Serius Pop) 16.Roots of Orchis "Channel 99" (When the Mequito Stung the Crocodile; Slowdance) 17.Orb "Alles ist Schoen" (Pomme Fritz; Island) 18.Nik Turner "Walking in the Sky" (Prophets of Time; Cleopatra) 19.Hawkwind "Opa Loka" (Warrior on the Edge of Time; Griffin/Dojo) thanks, Chuck From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Oct 12 16:33:54 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 21:33:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single Message-ID: I'm celebrating my first successful foray into Ebay! My Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single arrived safely this morning and the entire process was astonishingly hassle free. Ebay do seem to have a pretty good organisational set up. I'm kind of curious though. This was the 2nd Hassan I Sahba single to be auctioned there and several other really very high quality rare if not unique Hawkwind items were being listed for sale at the same time. I'm fairly sure that someone's highly prized Hawkwind collection is being sold off in America and the only person I know of with a collection of that quality is Mike Coleman. Does anyone know if it is his and if so why? I guess it can't be good news whoever it is - nobody sells a collection of that quality without good reason. Thanks for any info jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET Sat Oct 12 16:49:04 2002 From: waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Tom Waesche) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:49:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single Message-ID: If it is Mike Coleman's then it means his sisters got hold of it and didn't destroy it as was previously thought. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. You can visit me here http://www.geocities.com/wishywaesche/index.html > [Original Message] > From: Jill Strobridge > To: > Date: 10/12/02 3:33:54 PM > Subject: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single > > I'm celebrating my first successful foray into Ebay! My Hassan I Sahba > 45 vinyl single arrived safely this morning and the entire process was > astonishingly hassle free. Ebay do seem to have a pretty good > organisational set up. > > I'm kind of curious though. This was the 2nd Hassan I Sahba single to > be auctioned there and several other really very high quality rare if > not unique Hawkwind items were being listed for sale at the same time. > I'm fairly sure that someone's highly prized Hawkwind collection is > being sold off in America and the only person I know of with a > collection of that quality is Mike Coleman. Does anyone know if it is > his and if so why? I guess it can't be good news whoever it is - > nobody sells a collection of that quality without good reason. > > Thanks for any info > jill > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Oct 12 16:58:25 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 21:58:25 +0100 Subject: Sigur Ros - strange brew Message-ID: Sorry not to respond to this earlier! I've had major email problems but a nice person came along, performed some rapid internal surgery and all is better now 8-) I actually don't know any Dead Can Dance. Somebody said Sigur Ros reminded him of early Radiohead. I'm not sure if I agree with this entirely but I can see where it's coming from. Sigur Ros are more the kind of band that Porcupine Tree should have mutated into (perhaps via IEM) after Sky Moves Sideways except they kind of fell asleep while Sigur Ros generate an almost electric intensity on stage. I had the eerie feeling listing to Sigur Ros that if the world came to a terrible and catastrophic end this was exactly the kind of music I wanted to be listening to as it all fell apart - it absorbs you so totally you don't actually care what else is going on around you! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephe lindas" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Sigur Ros - strange surprise! > Can you somewhat relate them with Early Dead Can Dance? Thats what came to > mind when I first heard them. I bet they're great live. Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill Strobridge" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:34 PM > Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros - strange surprise! > > > > Goodness me - what a strange experience. I never managed to see GSYB > > in the end but I went to see Sigur Ros last night and they must come > > very close to them. An incredibly stately, dark, full, intense sound - > > I dunno how to describe it really. Germanic or Icelandic trance music > > I guess - incredibly powerful and solid. Actually probably closer to > > King Crimson in many ways - especially when they do the discordant > > aspect. Loads of keyboards and strings and a vocalist with an almost > > female languorous voice. Strange lad, he was. Sang/chanted into his > > guitar pick-up microphone at one point. > > > > Definitely an evening to remember! > > jill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jill Strobridge > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Oct 12 13:06:40 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 17:06:40 +0000 Subject: OFF: Judge Dredd "After ForeverDon't bite!! Message-ID: I must add.. at confusoin is ilusoin...sorry boutda speelub >From: Amphetamine Embalmer >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: Judge Dredd "After Forever" >Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:41:25 +0100 > >boc-l, >Been thinking about this one for awhile: >One of my favorite Judge Dredd stories has to be the >one where Judge Dredd is travelling across the >Scorched Earth to Mega City 2 to get a cure for a >plague that's destroying Mega City 1. He encounters a >mining colony run by a violent and cruel slavedriver >who treats his alien slaves as animals. The alien >slaves are from strip mine colonies on alien planets. >Judge Dredd asks a 'lil alien ant eater guy who >carries rocks for the slave driver for directions and >gets help. At some point later the ant eater alien >drops a big rock and is cruelly and mercilessly and >without reason beaten to death by the slave owner. >Judge Dredd avenges the alien's death by murdering the >slave owner and buries the cute 'lil alien guy, >shedding a tear. Dredd holds a simple burial ceremony >and mourns for a moment and says something like "I am >sorry it had to be this way, little fellow. Our earth >has suffered the holocaust and it is just the way it >is supposed to be. Nobody is supposed to 'get it' in >space travel. I am sorry we took your life on this >planet. Rest in peace. Amen.". Judge Dredd shows his >emotion with a short moment of silence and continues >on his trek. > >Chr. > >"Captain Swing wants his revenge at the Solstice at >Stonehenge!" > - Inner City Unit > >"Uncle Sam is very humane, he'd do anything for >anybody... He'd put him out his misery, give him some >nuclear death... Uncle Sam is very humane..." > - Hawkwind > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Oct 12 17:54:55 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 22:54:55 +0100 Subject: Studio Album Message-ID: I think that one should remember that Dave is involved in legal proceedings which, inevitably, get in the way of making an album. However, I am still confident that we will see a studio album soon. Also, do not believe everything that Nik puts out about who is "on his side";). Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Raymond" To: Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 3:55 AM Subject: Studio Album I think it is very nice that HW are playing these upcoming gigs, but when are we going to have a new album to buy!!!! I will be happy too buy all the live albums and stuff, but what about this new album we have been hearing about for an eternity? I looked on MC and did not see a reference to it (although I am sure there is one) Does anyone have a clue about the status of this project? Also, is this the Death Generator project? Although we heard from those suspicious emails that were floating around that Mike Moorcock is not on good terms with Dave Brock, it still says on MC that they are collaborating, I copied this from MC: ------------- FUTURE PLANS: Our current project is ' Destruction of The Death Generator' which is being written in conjunction with Michael Moorcock. We have been working in conjunction with both Mike Moorcock and Mike Butterworth, and we are now in the process of rehearsing the material, which will hopefully be recorded in the spring. Following rehearsals of the stage show, the band will tour late summer. The line up will contain the current nucleus, coupled with some past members who have featured in the band during the past 30 years, similar to the highly successful Y2k Hawkestra event at the Brixton Academy. We are also currently reviewing plans to do another tour of Australia & New Zealand, maybe later in the year...... --------------- So does this mean that here is a studio album that has already been recorded and about to be released, and then the Death Generator to be released later in 2003? Sorry to sound unhappy, but I have gotten fat, old and grey since In your Area was released. Finally, I hope that when there is a new album to buy, that it will available in stores instead of just by mailorder. Take care, Chris From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Oct 12 18:24:19 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 23:24:19 +0100 Subject: HW: a lost spirit of the p/age! In-Reply-To: <200209151216.IAA21516@listserv.spc.edu>; from jkranitz@AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM on Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 08:16:41AM -0400 Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 08:16:41AM -0400, Jerry Kranitz typed out: > > Do add my encouragement if it'll help; I've lost a good few hours to that > >site and was hoping to lose some more. Does this mean he got whatever > academic >qualification the `projekte' was designed for or not? > > I'm not quite following on the academic qualification. But I'd certainly > call the site a good textbook example of using the web primarily as a "WEB" > of links to related information, with the graphics and multimedia only > supplementing the INFORMATION. Damn straight. The academic thing I say because I seem to remember, from the days when it was up, that the whole `projekte' domain and the Project thereon was Knut's work for some media degree or something he was doing. I can't remember the details because of course, the site was there any time I wanted to check. I just wondered what his luck had been with it, being of the academic bent myself. But I suppose you would know what I meant if you knew. Still, he got to play the part of Calvert at the Hawkfest in Germany, didn't he, so he did quite well out of it in one sense at least :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: The Bevis Frond - _Live At The Great American Music Hall_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From mark.painter at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sat Oct 12 19:27:49 2002 From: mark.painter at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Mark Painter) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:27:49 +0100 Subject: BOC Recommendations? Message-ID: BOC-L Digest - 11 Oct 2002 to 12 Oct 2002 (#2002-297)As a Hawkperson on this list, it has just struck me... (Duhhhh!) that I should be checking out the BOC. Recommended albums please folks? I only know Reaper... Mark From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Oct 12 20:25:24 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 20:25:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Bedouin CD Offer Message-ID: Hi All Voiceprint are offering the first (solo) Alan Davey album for just ?9.99 inc p&p (credit card accepted for overseas purchase) Full details and order form link at www.bedouin.info (go to merchandising page) Rx From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Oct 12 21:43:00 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:43:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: 35007 (was: Pseudo Sun) In-Reply-To: <17r0YU-1XozdxC@fwd07.sul.t-online.com>; from Andreas.Stuewe@T-ONLINE.DE on Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 08:25:06PM +0200 Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 08:25:06PM +0200, Andreas Stuewe typed out: > > A few days ago I went to see the dutch band 35007 again after some years (I saw > them first in 91 supporting HW in Tilburg/NL). They are an instrumental space > rock outfit doing some very heavy blanga. And that?s just it: blanga, blanga, > blanga. Inbetween the songs they had some ambient synth noodling though. > For about 45 min as support act it?s really good. But after one hour it was too > much for me to endure, so I left. They had their new album "Liquid" for sale for > a very reasonable price, but I didn?t care to buy it. I already have their first > 2 albums which is one more than you actually need. What I?m trying to say is > this: I love some heavy blanga, yes, but it must be placed in the context of a > song, like HW do. Or like Juba does it with PS. I've heard of 35007 as a stoner band, I'm impressed they were supporting HW as the two scenes so often seem not to touch each other. Bedouin should have signed to Rise Above or the late lamented Man's Ruin ages ago, it's not like there's that much difference in style... And there's a band like Red Giant in the US who are really stoner-metal more than space, got tied up in the Strange Daze thing and no-one on stonerrock.com knows who they are... Anyway, if 35007 managed to cross the zone that's good. Which of the two albums is the one to get? I've been wondering about their stuff for a while now. Me, I'm not so desperate for the blanga to be song-shaped. It's nice if that's clearly within the range of the band, but this is one of the things that annoys me about HW; there's all this effort putting songs together, when what we probably want is just for the band to stay at Dave's for a week and jam 24/7 and then clip the best sixty minutes, work it over and call it an album. We all know it'd be great. But instead we'll get four songs and a load of synth filler, on current expectations. Gah. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Sun Oct 13 02:54:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 07:54:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw Message-ID: To Michael: autographed? I'll have to enquire of the great man. Watch this space... ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Oct 13 04:44:05 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 09:44:05 +0100 Subject: [Hawkwind] Hawkwind - Free Time of The Hawklords In-Reply-To: <20021012171915.54150.qmail@web14805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello again This has now found a new home. Thanks for your interest folks. AL --- Alan Linsley wrote: Good Evening

I have a spare copy of the Michael Butterworth book
The Time of the Hawklords which I don't need and so
would like to pass on to a good home for absolutely no
money except maybe postage (otherwise it goes down the
PDSA shop to end it's days on ashelf full of Mills &
Boon paperbacks and Perry Como albums).  This is the
Collectors Guide Publishing edition that came free
with the Warrior boxset issued by Griffin in 1995 (no
spare boxset though).  If anyone is interested please
mail me off list.  UK folks get priority as postage
will be cheaper.

AL
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From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Oct 13 08:42:22 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 08:42:22 EDT Subject: HW: Huw Message-ID: In a message dated Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:55:02 AEDT, Steve Litchfield writes: > To Michael: autographed? I'll have to enquire of the great man. Watch this > space... > __ He so very graciuosly autoraphed three of his LLG cd's for me when I orderd them. I would be utterly stoked if he would do me this one more favour :-) And thank you kindly for enquiring!! Michael B __________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET Sun Oct 13 13:10:32 2002 From: waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Tom Waesche) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:10:32 -0500 Subject: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single Message-ID: Agreed You can visit me here http://www.geocities.com/wishywaesche/index.html > [Original Message] > From: Michael W Blackman > To: > Date: 10/13/02 3:36:22 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single > > In a message dated Sun, 13 Oct 2002 07:47:38 AEDT, Tom Waesche writes: > > > If it is Mike Coleman's then it means his sisters got hold of it and didn't > > destroy it as was previously thought. > > Either way they should have their glass slippers taken away and replaced with cement boots and uncerimoniusly plopped into the deep murky depths of a cold ocean.... From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Oct 13 13:51:58 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 18:51:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single In-Reply-To: Tom Waesche's message of Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:49:04 -0500 Message-ID: Tom Waesche writes: > If it is Mike Coleman's then it means his sisters got hold of it and didn't > destroy it as was previously thought. Huh? Is Mike in some sort of trouble? I'd be very sad to hear that since I did enjoy his company back at the Hawkestra. FoFP From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Oct 13 14:50:09 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:50:09 -0400 Subject: OT: Wishywaesche site In-Reply-To: <410-2200210013171031970@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Great stuff at your site Laura.. but where is the personal pic ALL authors have??? Inquiring minds want to know Mike _____________________________________________ Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. -- Charles Kuralt ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Tom Waesche ::Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 1:11 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: Re: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single :: :: ::Agreed :: ::You can visit me here :: ::http://www.geocities.com/wishywaesche/index.html :: :: :: :: ::> [Original Message] ::> From: Michael W Blackman ::> To: ::> Date: 10/13/02 3:36:22 AM ::> Subject: Re: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single ::> ::> In a message dated Sun, 13 Oct 2002 07:47:38 AEDT, Tom Waesche :: writes: ::> ::> > If it is Mike Coleman's then it means his sisters got hold of it and ::didn't ::> > destroy it as was previously thought. ::> ::> Either way they should have their glass slippers taken away ::and replaced ::with cement boots and uncerimoniusly plopped into the deep murky ::depths of ::a cold ocean.... From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Oct 13 01:38:06 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:38:06 +0000 Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night Message-ID: I would have loved to have seen that I missed the show cos of work and reading your review has made me wish I blew it in on Tuesday GUTTED...thanx for postin that...al; >From: Nick Medford >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: University of Errors last night >Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:55:33 -0400 > >Did any other listmembers attend the gig at the Islington Garage last >night? Probably not, as the place was only half-full- a criminal shame, as >this was a stupendous performance from Daevid Allen and his new cohorts. > >I went on my own- others were either uncontactable, or, in one case, unable >to attend as his wife was having a baby- just about the only acceptable >excuse! Support act was Richard Sinclair, of Caravan and Hatfield And The >North semi-fame, playing a few acoustic numbers in a mellow jazzy style. >This particular strand of pastoral English whimsy has never tickled my >fancy and so it proved again last night- left me cold. But to be fair most >seemed to enjoy it and he got a good reception. The most interesting thing >that happened was someone in the audience joining in with some impromptu >flute accompaniment. I think I have seen the flautist before, guesting >onsatge with Acid Mothers Temple at the RFH a few months ago. But I >digress. > >The U of E came on to a tape of circus-style music and indulged in a little >clowning before getting down to the business in hand. It was superb. No >doubt Mr Allen is a man of many parts but no New Age tweeness last night, >this was loud'n'filthy avant-garde psychedelic punk with the band playing >as if possessed. Josh Pollock is simply extraordinary, wrenching wild >sheets of noise from his guitar. If you've heard Peter Laughner's playing >on the early Pere Ubu singles, the guitar sound isn't a million miles away >from that, but if anything even more unhinged, teetering on the edge of >chaos but always *just* controlled enough- given the audacity of the >musical risks being taken, it was remarkable that the band so rarely broke >down into self-indulgence or incoherence. The drummer (whose name I didn't >catch) was similarly uninhibited, and credit has to go to bassist Michael >Clare (who looks oddly like the writer Will Self) for keeping it all >together, seemingly impervious to the lunacy all around him. I struggle to >give points of reference but if you can imagine Camembert-era Gong crossed >with the MC5 and the Bonzo Dog band (a stretch I know) you're in the >general area. > >What did they play? I can't give a complete setlist but most of the >forthcoming "Ugly Music For Monica" album was aired, as I was able to >confirm at home later with my newly acquired pre-release cd-r. This is >easily the best album the band have recorded, it doesn't *quite* capture >the full frenzy of the live attack- how could it- but it's the best thing >Daevid has done for many years and if you have any interest in the man, you >NEED this album. Other than that, some glorious and rarely-heard classics >were given the Errorization treatment- barnstorming renditions of "Hope for >Happiness", "Pot Head Pixies", "Pretty Miss Titty" and a superb rendition >of Kevin Ayers' "Clarence in Wonderland"- for the first 30 seconds or so I >thought this was going to be the Velvets' "Sister Ray"- yup we're talking >*radical* turbo-charging of the old faves here. > >Current Gong sax-man Theo Travis came on to add to the sonic squall at one >point, and it was by far the loosest and boldest playing I've heard from >him. But the absolute standout highlight was "Fohat Digs Holes in Space", >during which the venue took off and went into orbit around the Crab Nebula. >If you've never heard the U of E's take on this ancient Gong classic, you >must. You must! > >The band are due to play some dates in Sweden soon, but you shouldn't let a >little thing like a few thousand miles keep you from seeing this amazing >band. Especially as the University's financial situation would appear to be >parlous- why else would they be selling pre-release cd-r's of the new album >for a fiver each- this is a unique and quite brilliant band, and I implore >anyone and everyone to get behind them. Tell your friends, tell your >enemies, tell all the people you do not know. > >good afternoon > >NM _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Sun Oct 13 16:43:00 2002 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:43:00 -0700 Subject: OFF: King Black Acid video on drug music TV web site Message-ID: A video of King black Acid's SOUL SYSTEMS BURN can be found on drug music TV www.drugmusic.com then click on "VIDEOS" you'll find a link on this page. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Oct 13 19:14:35 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:14:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin Website Message-ID: "As above" - by a long way - excellent album. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Sharpe" To: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > G'day all > > If I was to buy one of the bedouin CD's, which one would be the best. I > really enjoy the longer style tracks that the Hawks have produced > (Psychedelic Warlords...etc) & quite enjoy many of Motorhead's chunkier > tracks (Killed by Death...etc)...& you just gotta love Hassan I Sahba. > > I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. > > Looks like only 2 CD's are available "Live & Beyond" & "As Above So Below". > > MP3 version of Vision Quest is not too bad. > > Thanks > > Allan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > Cheers man, Exellent web site and regarding the merchandise...... I want > one of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! > > > > > The NEW Bedouin Website is now online, with band profiles, > > > discographies, picture galleries, gig listings and merchandise.... From waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET Sun Oct 13 20:07:37 2002 From: waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Tom Waesche) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:07:37 -0500 Subject: OT: Wishywaesche site Message-ID: It's safe. Very safe. ;-) Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. You can visit me here http://www.geocities.com/wishywaesche/index.html > [Original Message] > From: Mike Montfort > To: > Date: 10/13/02 1:50:09 PM > Subject: OT: Wishywaesche site > > Great stuff at your site Laura.. but where is the personal pic ALL authors > have??? > > Inquiring minds want to know > > Mike > > _____________________________________________ > > Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from > coast to coast without seeing anything. > > -- Charles Kuralt > > > > ::-----Original Message----- > ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > ::Behalf Of Tom Waesche > ::Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 1:11 PM > ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > ::Subject: Re: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single > :: > :: > ::Agreed > :: > ::You can visit me here > :: > ::http://www.geocities.com/wishywaesche/index.html > :: > :: > :: > :: > ::> [Original Message] > ::> From: Michael W Blackman > ::> To: > ::> Date: 10/13/02 3:36:22 AM > ::> Subject: Re: HW: Hassan I Sahba 45 vinyl single > ::> > ::> In a message dated Sun, 13 Oct 2002 07:47:38 AEDT, Tom Waesche > :: writes: > ::> > ::> > If it is Mike Coleman's then it means his sisters got hold of it and > ::didn't > ::> > destroy it as was previously thought. > ::> > ::> Either way they should have their glass slippers taken away > ::and replaced > ::with cement boots and uncerimoniusly plopped into the deep murky > ::depths of > ::a cold ocean.... From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 14 07:44:15 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:44:15 EDT Subject: BOC Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <000801c27246$fcdc7a20$0100a8c0@splodge> Message-ID: On 13 Oct 2002, at 0:27, Mark Painter wrote: > BOC-L Digest - 11 Oct 2002 to 12 Oct 2002 (#2002-297)As a Hawkperson > on this list, it has just struck me... (Duhhhh!) that I should be > checking out the BOC. > > Recommended albums please folks? I only know > Reaper... > The first 3 are far and away their best stuff, and of those, Secret TReaties is widely considered their best album. It won't remind you too much of Reaper, though! For a taste of the current band, I'd recommend last Year's Curse of the Hidden Mirror, or the just released Live album, A Long Day's Night, which is also on DVD... theo From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Oct 14 08:03:51 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:03:51 +0000 Subject: Ali Sumner can you contact me Message-ID: Ali ,I'm worried about Ben.... have you heard from him ? Contact me and we'll arrange a chat...Alan ... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Mon Oct 14 09:23:12 2002 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:23:12 +0100 Subject: BOC Recommendations? Message-ID: On 13 Oct 2002, at 0:27, Mark Painter wrote: > BOC-L Digest - 11 Oct 2002 to 12 Oct 2002 (#2002-297)As a Hawkperson > on this list, it has just struck me... (Duhhhh!) that I should be > checking out the BOC. > > Recommended albums please folks? I only know > Reaper... I'm sure the BOC people can advise you in depth, but as a fellow Hawkperson, I found the double cd 'Workshop of the Telescopes' to be a pretty good 'best of' except it omits any selections from the rather spiffing 'Imaginos'. Cheers Neil. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Mon Oct 14 11:23:11 2002 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (Tony Hogard) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:23:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: ST 37; Terrastock Message-ID: Spacerock fans, this week's _Austin Chronicle_ has a feature on local institution and awfully nice bunch of guys ST 37: http://www.austinchronicle.com/music_feature.html Also news of possible Terrastock in Texas next year. Speaking of Terrastock, are any BOC-Lers who were in attendance recovered enough for a report? -Tone From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Oct 14 12:39:57 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:39:57 +0200 Subject: OFF: 35007 (was: Pseudo Sun) Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > I've heard of 35007 as a stoner band, I'm impressed they were > supporting HW as the two scenes so often seem not to touch each > other. Bedouin should have signed to Rise Above or the late lamented Man's > Ruin ages ago, it's not like there's that much difference in > style... And there's a band like Red Giant in the US who are really > stoner-metal more than space, got tied up in the Strange Daze thing > and no-one on stonerrock.com knows who they are... Anyway, if 35007 > managed to cross the zone that's good. Which of the two albums is the one > to get? I've been wondering about their stuff for a while now. > Check out the first one, "Especially for you" from 1994. The second one (just called 35007) is sounding more industrial. Both still feature their old vocalist. Haven?t heard the new album, but it must be like the "Von Braun" EP which came out last year and isn?t bad. Andreas From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Oct 14 12:37:29 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:37:29 +0100 Subject: Sigur Ros - strange brew Message-ID: Sigur Ros - strange mix of Bjork, Amon Duul, and Van Der Graaf. Saw God Speed You Black Emporer on the last tour - a tad dull - unlike the previous tour which was awesome. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jill Strobridge To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 12 October 2002 22:00 Subject: Re: Sigur Ros - strange brew >Sorry not to respond to this earlier! I've had major email problems >but a nice person came along, performed some rapid internal surgery and >all is better now 8-) > >I actually don't know any Dead Can Dance. Somebody said Sigur Ros >reminded him of early Radiohead. I'm not sure if I agree with this >entirely but I can see where it's coming from. Sigur Ros are more the >kind of band that Porcupine Tree should have mutated into (perhaps via >IEM) after Sky Moves Sideways except they kind of fell asleep while >Sigur Ros generate an almost electric intensity on stage. I had the >eerie feeling listing to Sigur Ros that if the world came to a terrible >and catastrophic end this was exactly the kind of music I wanted to be >listening to as it all fell apart - it absorbs you so totally you don't >actually care what else is going on around you! >jill >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Jill Strobridge >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "stephe lindas" >To: >Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:46 PM >Subject: Re: Sigur Ros - strange surprise! > > >> Can you somewhat relate them with Early Dead Can Dance? Thats what >came to >> mind when I first heard them. I bet they're great live. Cheers STEPHE >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jill Strobridge" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:34 PM >> Subject: OFF: Sigur Ros - strange surprise! >> >> >> > Goodness me - what a strange experience. I never managed to see >GSYB >> > in the end but I went to see Sigur Ros last night and they must come >> > very close to them. An incredibly stately, dark, full, intense >sound - >> > I dunno how to describe it really. Germanic or Icelandic trance >music >> > I guess - incredibly powerful and solid. Actually probably closer >to >> > King Crimson in many ways - especially when they do the discordant >> > aspect. Loads of keyboards and strings and a vocalist with an >almost >> > female languorous voice. Strange lad, he was. Sang/chanted into >his >> > guitar pick-up microphone at one point. >> > >> > Definitely an evening to remember! >> > jill >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Jill Strobridge >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> > From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 14 11:03:10 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:03:10 -0300 Subject: HW: Off: The Red Rooster; The OEBs; September 27th Message-ID: We have uploaded another tune from the September 27th show at Burlington County College. The Red Rooster; (Willie Dixon & Howlin Wolf) Mike Burro: electric rhythm guitar, vocals Jay Adcock: Ghanan djembe http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com This was the opening number and pretty lazy in tempo From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Oct 14 14:30:10 2002 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (Jez Dacombe) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:30:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Mark Lee's e-mail address? Message-ID: Hi, Has anybody got Mark Lee's e-mail address please. Cheers, Jez From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Oct 14 15:22:14 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:22:14 -0400 Subject: BOCL: "i'm on the lam but i ain't no sheep" 7" Message-ID: Watt was asked about the above on the mikewatt mailing list, and here is his answer. > >ryan, > > it was a one-off recording project w/dave markey (did some >sonic videos and the "year punk broke" and "love doll superstar" >movies) and dez (from black flag). the band was called "chop." the >record has two blue oyster cult covers. I didn't really play on the >"...foot" song, the engineer did and they had me add some "lead bass" >or whatever. "I'm on the lam (but I ain't no sheep)" is from the >first b.o.c. record and is an early version of "the red and the >black." same words but the guitar lick is more country. > on both wheels, watt From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Oct 14 17:42:03 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:42:03 -0500 Subject: HW: CD Services Message-ID: Hey Andy, the CD Services website doesn't say which September it's going live in ;-) Now that it's October.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Garibaldi" To: Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > "As above" - by a long way - excellent album. > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan Sharpe" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:32 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > G'day all > > > > If I was to buy one of the bedouin CD's, which one would be the best. I > > really enjoy the longer style tracks that the Hawks have produced > > (Psychedelic Warlords...etc) & quite enjoy many of Motorhead's chunkier > > tracks (Killed by Death...etc)...& you just gotta love Hassan I Sahba. > > > > I'd be interested in hearing your suggestions. > > > > Looks like only 2 CD's are available "Live & Beyond" & "As Above So > Below". > > > > MP3 version of Vision Quest is not too bad. > > > > Thanks > > > > Allan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 4:52 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Bedouin Website > > > > > > > Cheers man, Exellent web site and regarding the merchandise...... I > want > > one of EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > The NEW Bedouin Website is now online, with band profiles, > > > > discographies, picture galleries, gig listings and merchandise.... From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Mon Oct 14 19:48:13 2002 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:48:13 -0400 Subject: Hawkdiscs - In Stock! Message-ID: Hey Now! Someone was looking for some Hawkwind CD's. I have these Hawkdiscs to trade or sell: Anthology Vol II - Samurai (CD)039 DOREMI FASOL LATIDO - One Way Records CDLL 57475 Levitation - Griffin GCD230-2 The Hawklords Live - Griffin GN 03921-2 The Chronicle of The Black Sword - Griffin GCDHA-0142-2 Live Chronicles - Griffin GCDHA-0136-2 Palace Springs - RoadRacer RRD 9303 Electric Tepee - Griffin GN0931-2 Future Reconstructions - Emergency Broadcast System EBSSCD 117 Quark, Strangeness & Charm CD Single - EBCD110 1) Uncle Sam's on Mars(Red Planet Radio Mix) 2) Quark, Strangeness & Charm 3) Black Sun (9:34 minutes) 4) Uncle Sam's On Mars (Martian Conquest Mix) Alan Davey ~ Captured Rotation - Digipak EBSSCD 122 Peace, Darrin From jwhe10 at SK.SYMPATICO.CA Tue Oct 15 00:09:00 2002 From: jwhe10 at SK.SYMPATICO.CA (Bryan Young) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:09:00 -0600 Subject: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? Message-ID: Calling Andy G: Rik has mentioned the variety of Bedouin stuff available through the bedouin.info website, but it's not easy to say how well orders from various countries would be handled. It does say that Overseas Money Orders must add 2 pounds, but I'm afraid that (because I live in Canada) any fee to cash my CDN money order would be a lot more than the 2 pounds listed, being in a strange currency and all. I'm afraid that the fee assumes a US money order will be sent, and I can't easily get those living here in Canada. Here's the question -- is CD Services going to stock some of these? Or if not, would they consider stocking a limited amount if the listmembers preordered? Give us a deadline to have our orders in, use our credit cards to fund the orders, and then place them on our behalf. (I'm not loathe to write to the East Devon postal box, but without an email to confirm what my exact total would be, I'm afraid of just wasting time and causing a hassle. In particular, I'd love to order: Bedouin - Live and Beyond (cdr) Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra (cdr) Sorry to ask this question on the list, but I figured others might be interested in the response, too. Cheers, Bryan Young From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 15 00:26:30 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:26:30 EDT Subject: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? Message-ID: I dont believe there is a charge for or to the reciever of an international money order. The buyer of the international money order (in this case - you) should be charged the appropriate fees at the time you purchase the money order. In a message dated Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:09:18 AEDT, Bryan Young writes: > Calling Andy G: > > Rik has mentioned the variety of Bedouin stuff available through the > bedouin.info website, but it's not easy to say how well orders from various > countries would be handled. It does say that Overseas Money Orders must add > 2 pounds, but I'm afraid that (because I live in Canada) any fee to cash my > CDN money order would be a lot more than the 2 pounds listed, being in a > strange currency and all. I'm afraid that the fee assumes a US money order > will be sent, and I can't easily get those living here in Canada. > > Here's the question -- is CD Services going to stock some of these? Or if > not, would they consider stocking a limited amount if the listmembers > preordered? Give us a deadline to have our orders in, use our credit cards > to fund the orders, and then place them on our behalf. (I'm not loathe to > write to the East Devon postal box, but without an email to confirm what my > exact total would be, I'm afraid of just wasting time and causing a hassle. > > In particular, I'd love to order: > Bedouin - Live and Beyond (cdr) > Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra (cdr) > > Sorry to ask this question on the list, but I figured others might be > interested in the response, too. > > Cheers, > > Bryan Young From jwhe10 at SK.SYMPATICO.CA Tue Oct 15 00:35:35 2002 From: jwhe10 at SK.SYMPATICO.CA (Bryan Young) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:35:35 -0600 Subject: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? Message-ID: But I don't think I can get a CDN international money order in just *any* currency. And if it's in US funds (which I know is possible) or in CDN funds, then I'm sure the bank in the UK will charge a fee to convert. Other sellers on ebay have told me that a CDN international money order is no good unless I want to pay almost $10 extra, but that may be just a self-serving policy. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? > I dont believe there is a charge for or to the reciever of an international money order. The buyer of the international money order (in this case - you) should be charged the appropriate fees at the time you purchase the money order. > > > In a message dated Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:09:18 AEDT, Bryan Young writes: > > > Calling Andy G: > > > > Rik has mentioned the variety of Bedouin stuff available through the > > bedouin.info website, but it's not easy to say how well orders from various > > countries would be handled. It does say that Overseas Money Orders must add > > 2 pounds, but I'm afraid that (because I live in Canada) any fee to cash my > > CDN money order would be a lot more than the 2 pounds listed, being in a > > strange currency and all. I'm afraid that the fee assumes a US money order > > will be sent, and I can't easily get those living here in Canada. > > > > Here's the question -- is CD Services going to stock some of these? Or if > > not, would they consider stocking a limited amount if the listmembers > > preordered? Give us a deadline to have our orders in, use our credit cards > > to fund the orders, and then place them on our behalf. (I'm not loathe to > > write to the East Devon postal box, but without an email to confirm what my > > exact total would be, I'm afraid of just wasting time and causing a hassle. > > > > In particular, I'd love to order: > > Bedouin - Live and Beyond (cdr) > > Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra (cdr) > > > > Sorry to ask this question on the list, but I figured others might be > > interested in the response, too. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bryan Young From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Oct 15 05:16:58 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:16:58 +0100 Subject: Trade Message-ID: I have the follwing items for trade if anyone is interested. All with plain sleeves so nothing too rare I'm afraid. Silver Machine/Seven by Seven UA 7" Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution UA 7" Kings of Speed/Motorhead UA 7" Eddie. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 15 05:58:45 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 05:58:45 EDT Subject: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? Message-ID: I tried to get an international money order in English currency and they told me they only do US international money orders. They should just call them US money orders then hey :-) I had to get a bank cheque made out which cost me $20 In a message dated Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:36:10 AEDT, Bryan Young writes: > But I don't think I can get a CDN international money order in just *any* > currency. And if it's in US funds (which I know is possible) or in CDN > funds, then I'm sure the bank in the UK will charge a fee to convert. > > Other sellers on ebay have told me that a CDN international money order is > no good unless I want to pay almost $10 extra, but that may be just a > self-serving policy. > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? > > > > I dont believe there is a charge for or to the reciever of an > international money order. The buyer of the international money order (in > this case - you) should be charged the appropriate fees at the time you > purchase the money order. > > > > > > In a message dated Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:09:18 AEDT, Bryan Young > writes: > > > > > Calling Andy G: > > > > > > Rik has mentioned the variety of Bedouin stuff available through the > > > bedouin.info website, but it's not easy to say how well orders from > various > > > countries would be handled. It does say that Overseas Money Orders must > add > > > 2 pounds, but I'm afraid that (because I live in Canada) any fee to cash > my > > > CDN money order would be a lot more than the 2 pounds listed, being in a > > > strange currency and all. I'm afraid that the fee assumes a US money > order > > > will be sent, and I can't easily get those living here in Canada. > > > > > > Here's the question -- is CD Services going to stock some of these? Or > if > > > not, would they consider stocking a limited amount if the listmembers > > > preordered? Give us a deadline to have our orders in, use our credit > cards > > > to fund the orders, and then place them on our behalf. (I'm not loathe > to > > > write to the East Devon postal box, but without an email to confirm what > my > > > exact total would be, I'm afraid of just wasting time and causing a > hassle. > > > > > > In particular, I'd love to order: > > > Bedouin - Live and Beyond (cdr) > > > Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra (cdr) > > > > > > Sorry to ask this question on the list, but I figured others might be > > > interested in the response, too. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Bryan Young From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 15 10:57:21 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:57:21 -0400 Subject: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? Message-ID: IMO's take up to 6 weeks to process from the USA. ThaT means no cds for maybe a month. Why no Paypal or credit cards? Its not the dark ages anymore. I'd rather risk cash and get the cds quickly. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Young" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? > Calling Andy G: > > Rik has mentioned the variety of Bedouin stuff available through the > bedouin.info website, but it's not easy to say how well orders from various > countries would be handled. It does say that Overseas Money Orders must add > 2 pounds, but I'm afraid that (because I live in Canada) any fee to cash my > CDN money order would be a lot more than the 2 pounds listed, being in a > strange currency and all. I'm afraid that the fee assumes a US money order > will be sent, and I can't easily get those living here in Canada. > > Here's the question -- is CD Services going to stock some of these? Or if > not, would they consider stocking a limited amount if the listmembers > preordered? Give us a deadline to have our orders in, use our credit cards > to fund the orders, and then place them on our behalf. (I'm not loathe to > write to the East Devon postal box, but without an email to confirm what my > exact total would be, I'm afraid of just wasting time and causing a hassle. > > In particular, I'd love to order: > Bedouin - Live and Beyond (cdr) > Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra (cdr) > > Sorry to ask this question on the list, but I figured others might be > interested in the response, too. > > Cheers, > > Bryan Young From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Tue Oct 15 11:02:47 2002 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:02:47 -0400 Subject: BOC Recommendations? Message-ID: Extra Terrestrial Live is a good showcase of BOC songs, although it omits Flaming Telepaths. The new DVD should be good too - mine should get here in the next couple of days Jeff From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Oct 15 15:51:56 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:51:56 -0500 Subject: HW:Wembley/Mountain Grill Message-ID: Wembley: Did anyone come up with a sensible suggestion for a pub? Who's going to make the gig? And can someone remind me how to get to the mountain grill, since I'm suffering from a bout of laziness and can't face wading through the archives ;-) Rich From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 15 15:52:59 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:52:59 +0100 Subject: [Hawkwind] Hawkwind Wars & Moorcock In-Reply-To: <20021015194847.12843.qmail@web14810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sorry, should be #2059 not #2056. --- Alan Linsley wrote:
Mike Moorcock has returned from several months
travelling and has answered a whole backlog of
questions on his Q&A page.  Answers to questions
#2056, #2065 & #2076 are a bit sketchy but
nevertheless are of interest to us...

http://www.multiverse.org/sport/qa.jsp

AL
__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From chrisr at TIAC.NET Tue Oct 15 16:00:09 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:00:09 -0400 Subject: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? In-Reply-To: <97.2f112ba5.2add40d9@aol.com> Message-ID: It would be great if they opened a paypal account for that website. Then they could take orders from a lot of countries with very little hassle. Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael W Blackman Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:59 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? I tried to get an international money order in English currency and they told me they only do US international money orders. They should just call them US money orders then hey :-) I had to get a bank cheque made out which cost me $20 In a message dated Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:36:10 AEDT, Bryan Young writes: > But I don't think I can get a CDN international money order in just *any* > currency. And if it's in US funds (which I know is possible) or in CDN > funds, then I'm sure the bank in the UK will charge a fee to convert. > > Other sellers on ebay have told me that a CDN international money order is > no good unless I want to pay almost $10 extra, but that may be just a > self-serving policy. > > Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: Bedouin.info cd releases available through CD Services? > > > > I dont believe there is a charge for or to the reciever of an > international money order. The buyer of the international money order (in > this case - you) should be charged the appropriate fees at the time you > purchase the money order. > > > > > > In a message dated Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:09:18 AEDT, Bryan Young > writes: > > > > > Calling Andy G: > > > > > > Rik has mentioned the variety of Bedouin stuff available through the > > > bedouin.info website, but it's not easy to say how well orders from > various > > > countries would be handled. It does say that Overseas Money Orders must > add > > > 2 pounds, but I'm afraid that (because I live in Canada) any fee to cash > my > > > CDN money order would be a lot more than the 2 pounds listed, being in a > > > strange currency and all. I'm afraid that the fee assumes a US money > order > > > will be sent, and I can't easily get those living here in Canada. > > > > > > Here's the question -- is CD Services going to stock some of these? Or > if > > > not, would they consider stocking a limited amount if the listmembers > > > preordered? Give us a deadline to have our orders in, use our credit > cards > > > to fund the orders, and then place them on our behalf. (I'm not loathe > to > > > write to the East Devon postal box, but without an email to confirm what > my > > > exact total would be, I'm afraid of just wasting time and causing a > hassle. > > > > > > In particular, I'd love to order: > > > Bedouin - Live and Beyond (cdr) > > > Al Chemical's Lysergic Orchestra (cdr) > > > > > > Sorry to ask this question on the list, but I figured others might be > > > interested in the response, too. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Bryan Young From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 15 15:48:47 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:48:47 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Wars & Moorcock Message-ID: Mike Moorcock has returned from several months travelling and has answered a whole backlog of questions on his Q&A page. Answers to questions #2056, #2065 & #2076 are a bit sketchy but nevertheless are of interest to us... http://www.multiverse.org/sport/qa.jsp AL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 15 16:59:02 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:59:02 +0100 Subject: HW:Wembley/Mountain Grill Message-ID: I am going:). Leaving after Hawkwind though; I can't face Anthrax! Pub: My local before setting off! Cheers, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich.warren" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:51 PM Subject: HW:Wembley/Mountain Grill Wembley: Did anyone come up with a sensible suggestion for a pub? Who's going to make the gig? And can someone remind me how to get to the mountain grill, since I'm suffering from a bout of laziness and can't face wading through the archives ;-) Rich From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Oct 15 17:07:15 2002 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:07:15 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind Wars & Moorcock Message-ID: > Mike Moorcock has returned from several months > travelling and has answered a whole backlog of > questions on his Q&A page. Answers to questions > #2056, #2065 & #2076 are a bit sketchy but > nevertheless are of interest to us... > > http://www.multiverse.org/sport/qa.jsp Hmmm... #2056 (along with #2055 & #2058) seems to have vanished into a temporal anomaly... From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Oct 15 17:05:13 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:05:13 -0400 Subject: HW:Wembley/Mountain Grill Message-ID: Here's a rather unwieldy link to a map of the locality. Paste the whole thing into the address bar of your browser: http://www.multimap.co.uk/map/browse.cgi? addr1=276&addr2=Portobello+Road&addr3=London&pc=W10+5TE&client=public&gride= 524480&gridn=181549&scale=10000 If memory serves, it's just north of the Westway on the left-hand side (assuming you're facing uphill, i.e. North) and the pillar to the left of the front door is the distinguishing mark. Although someone said it's been renamed back to "the Mountain Grill"... Ladbroke Grove tube is marked on the map & looks very convenient. I walked from Notting Hill Gate and it was quite a stretch. Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:51:56 -0500, rich.warren wrote: And can someone remind me how to get to the mountain grill, since I'm suffering from a bout of laziness and can't face wading through the archives ;-) Rich From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Tue Oct 15 18:57:17 2002 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:57:17 -0400 Subject: Hawkdiscs - update Message-ID: I have these Hawkdiscs to trade or sell: DOREMI FASOL LATIDO - One Way Records CDLL 57475 Levitation - Griffin GCD230-2 The Hawklords Live - Griffin GN 03921-2 The Chronicle of The Black Sword - Griffin GCDHA-0142-2 Live Chronicles - Griffin GCDHA-0136-2 Palace Springs - RoadRacer RRD 9303 Electric Tepee - Griffin GN0931-2 Future Reconstructions - Emergency Broadcast System EBSSCD 117 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael B. has spoken for these -so they are gone: Quark, Strangeness & Charm CD Single - EBCD110 1) Uncle Sam's on Mars(Red Planet Radio Mix) 2) Quark, Strangeness & Charm 3) Black Sun (9:34 minutes) 4) Uncle Sam's On Mars (Martian Conquest Mix) Alan Davey ~ Captured Rotation - Digipak EBSSCD 122 Anthology Vol II - Samurai (CD)039 Peace, Darrin From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Tue Oct 15 19:26:37 2002 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:26:37 -0400 Subject: BOC Recommendations? Message-ID: Theo makes some good points here. Seems as though all 3 of the first releases have been recently remastered. Maybe they even have some extra tracks....? Someone please confirm. I remember Gary Davis listing them in his Artist Shop Newsletter..... I would also recommend 3 releases that have been overlooked. I love Spectres, Mirrors and Fire of Unknown Origin. To me they are also essential and seem to have a common thread lyrically and musically, just as the first 3 releases do. Cultosaurus Erectus was released between Mirrors and Fire of Unknown Origin in June of 1980. I like that release quite alot as well, but not quite as well as the other 3. If I had it on CD, it would get played much more. There's an idea ") One release that I really don't like and was actually responsible for turning me off of the band through the mid- 1980's was Revolution By Night. This was the first studio release after Fire of Unknown Origin and no offense to other list-members, but it SUCKS! The title track - Take Me Away got some airplay when it came out, but it typifies the pop orientation of the rest of the record. After Fire of Unknown Origin, Revolution was a big letdown. I have not purchased any releases that came after this one. If you dig BOC, you can't go wrong w/ these 6 releases. To start off, I would go w/ Secret Treaties and Spectres. That will give you a taste of the old-school and the more commercially accomplished releases. If you like both, you'll have a blast getting into the other 4! The Great Sun Jester, D-Rider -----Original Message----- From: Ted Jackson [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 7:44 AM Subject: Re: BOC Recommendations? On 13 Oct 2002, at 0:27, Mark Painter wrote: > BOC-L Digest - 11 Oct 2002 to 12 Oct 2002 (#2002-297) As a Hawkperson on this list, it has just struck me... (Duhhhh!) that I should be checking out the BOC. > > Recommended albums please folks? I only know > Reaper... > The first 3 are far and away their best stuff, and of those, Secret TReaties is widely considered their best album. It won't remind you too much of Reaper, though! For a taste of the current band, I'd recommend last Year's Curse of the Hidden Mirror, or the just released Live album, A Long Day's Night, which is also on DVD... theo From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 15 16:20:32 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:20:32 -0400 Subject: HW:Wembley/Mountain Grill Message-ID: If you go to Portabello rd from Ladbroke Grove tube station, Turn right, go under the bridge and its right there, on the right. I'm pretty sure thats correct. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich.warren" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: HW:Wembley/Mountain Grill Wembley: Did anyone come up with a sensible suggestion for a pub? Who's going to make the gig? And can someone remind me how to get to the mountain grill, since I'm suffering from a bout of laziness and can't face wading through the archives ;-) Rich From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Oct 16 07:41:45 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:41:45 EDT Subject: BOC Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <02a201c274a2$4ef68d20$e7428118@se1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: On 15 Oct 2002, at 19:26, DRider wrote: > Theo makes some good points here. Seems as though all 3 of the first > releases have been recently remastered. Maybe they even have some > extra tracks....? > > Someone please confirm. I remember Gary Davis listing them in his > Artist Shop Newsletter..... > Actually, it's the first 4 that have been remastered with some new cuts. The new stuff isn't all that great, really, but some of the tunes give insight into different ideas the band were pursuing. But the remastering was well done, and makes it worth getting them just for the improvements in sound, esp. the first album... > I would also recommend 3 releases that have been overlooked. I love > Spectres, Mirrors and Fire of Unknown Origin. To me they are also > essential and seem to have a common thread lyrically and musically, > just as the first 3 releases do. > > Cultosaurus Erectus was released between Mirrors and Fire of Unknown > Origin in June of 1980. I like that release quite alot as well, but > not quite as well as the other 3. If I had it on CD, it would get > played much more. There's an idea ") > Supposedly, all of their stuff will be remastered. I thought this was already in the works, but seems to have stalled after the initial 4... > One release that I really don't like and was actually responsible for > turning me off of the band through the mid- 1980's was Revolution By > Night. This was the first studio release after Fire of Unknown Origin > and no offense to other list-members, but it SUCKS! The title track - > Take Me Away got some airplay when it came out, but it typifies the > pop orientation of the rest of the record. After Fire of Unknown > Origin, Revolution was a big letdown. I have not purchased any > releases that came after this one. Did you notice that all this coincides with Albert's departure from the band? Actually, I always liked RBN--at least a few songs, c.f. Shadow of California [great lyrics] and Feel the Thunder [typical EB biker fare, but superb guitaring by BD]. A lot of folks like Shooting Shark, and I think Veins is a great song too. But I'll grant you there's a bunch of clunkers that should never have made it to record... > theo From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Oct 16 10:39:28 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:39:28 -0400 Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place Message-ID: Hawkwind will follow up their appearance with Motorhead and Anthrax at London's Wembley Arena on October 19 with their own headlining shows just prior to Xmas. So far confirmed are Hanley Victoria Hall December 5, Manchester Academy 2 6, Liverpool Creem At The Lomax 8, Brighton Concorde 2 12, London Walthamstow Assembly Hall 13. The band are to release a live album recorded at the Canterbury Fayre in 201. As yet untitled, it is to be made available on Voiceprint. SAH From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Oct 16 12:05:18 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:05:18 -0500 Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place Message-ID: lol. Is the use of git faced gits from the git place a reference to the lack of dates in Scotland ;-) Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Rocker" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:39 AM Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place > Hawkwind will follow up their appearance with Motorhead and Anthrax at > London's Wembley Arena on October 19 with their own headlining shows just > prior to Xmas. So far confirmed are Hanley Victoria Hall December 5, > Manchester Academy 2 6, Liverpool Creem At The Lomax 8, Brighton Concorde 2 > 12, London Walthamstow Assembly Hall 13. The band are to release a live > album recorded at the Canterbury Fayre in 201. As yet untitled, it is to be > made available on Voiceprint. > > SAH From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Oct 16 12:28:20 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:28:20 -0500 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: Having Never Been to Wembley, is there a safe place to hide from Anthrax, i.e bars or other areas, since I'm not sure I want to put myself through the torture. It doesn't like there are enough list people going to fill a mini. Apathy Rules. Anyone know how many tickets have sold for Wembley? Rich From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Oct 16 12:37:51 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:37:51 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: Well I bought one! And I'm going with 3 others. One of them is an Anthrax fan, so they'll only be 3 of us in the bar when they're on and there are loads of bars inside the venue selling weak lager in plastic cups. What is the appearance order? Anthraz, Hawkwind, Motorhead? -----Original Message----- From: rich.warren To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 16/10/02 17:28 Subject: HW: Wembley Having Never Been to Wembley, is there a safe place to hide from Anthrax, i.e bars or other areas, since I'm not sure I want to put myself through the torture. It doesn't like there are enough list people going to fill a mini. Apathy Rules. Anyone know how many tickets have sold for Wembley? Rich From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Oct 16 12:41:33 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:41:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: I'm going, pre-gig pub will depend on BritRailTrack or whatever they're called this week. There's ongoing maintenace on the line to London so it might be a tricky journey. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich.warren" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: HW: Wembley Having Never Been to Wembley, is there a safe place to hide from Anthrax, i.e bars or other areas, since I'm not sure I want to put myself through the torture. It doesn't like there are enough list people going to fill a mini. Apathy Rules. Anyone know how many tickets have sold for Wembley? Rich From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Oct 16 12:52:46 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:52:46 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: Thinks its HW, Anthrax, Motorhead. HW at 6.45 according to MC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jobson, Eddie" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Wembley > Well I bought one! And I'm going with 3 others. One of them is an Anthrax > fan, so they'll only be 3 of us in the bar when they're on and there are > loads of bars inside the venue selling weak lager in plastic cups. What is > the appearance order? Anthraz, Hawkwind, Motorhead? > > -----Original Message----- > From: rich.warren > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Sent: 16/10/02 17:28 > Subject: HW: Wembley > > Having Never Been to Wembley, is there a safe place to hide from > Anthrax, i.e bars or other areas, since I'm not sure I want to put > myself through the torture. > > It doesn't like there are enough list people going to fill a mini. > Apathy Rules. > > Anyone know how many tickets have sold for Wembley? > > Rich From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Oct 16 12:54:16 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:54:16 -0500 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: I learned after taking 12 Hours to reach the Astoria via rail. I'm on the overnight redeye coach down to London. Dreadful as it is, the trains blow considerably this weekend especially down the west coast line. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: Re: HW: Wembley > I'm going, pre-gig pub will depend on BritRailTrack or whatever they're > called this week. There's ongoing maintenace on the line to London so it > might be a tricky journey. > > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rich.warren" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:28 PM > Subject: HW: Wembley > > > Having Never Been to Wembley, is there a safe place to hide from Anthrax, > i.e bars or other areas, since I'm not sure I want to put myself through the > torture. > > It doesn't like there are enough list people going to fill a mini. Apathy > Rules. > > Anyone know how many tickets have sold for Wembley? > > Rich From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Oct 16 13:34:09 2002 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:34:09 -0700 Subject: BOC reference on Buffy Message-ID: Almost choked on my dinner last night while watching Buffy. She told the highschool punks that their demon-raising ritual failed because they forgot the boombox playing "something by Blue Clam Cult". We nearly died... scorch From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Oct 16 14:40:23 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:40:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley In-Reply-To: <001601c27531$0aca42b0$a5dc883e@titan> Message-ID: I'm going, but not in a mini, or any other kind of skirt, sorry. Don't know how many tickets sold but mine is standing ticket #1593, and I got it just before somebody posted a comment here that all the 'eadbangers had got all the standing tickets. So 1600 standing? AL --- "rich.warren" wrote: > > It doesn't like there are enough list people going > to fill a mini. Apathy Rules. > > Anyone know how many tickets have sold for Wembley? > > Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From mlawrenc at AU1.IBM.COM Wed Oct 16 20:11:36 2002 From: mlawrenc at AU1.IBM.COM (Marty Lawrence) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:11:36 -0400 Subject: HW:QS&C Album/CD Message-ID: Hi There were people on the list that wanted this I believe. I have noticed a couple of copies of this in Melbourne(AUS),they are on virgin label,and priced approx $AUS20. If somebody wants one , let me know and i'll get one for them. Please email offlist. regards Marty From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Wed Oct 16 21:30:27 2002 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:30:27 +1000 Subject: HW:QS&C Album/CD Message-ID: Marty You didn't give an offlist email address. I would love a copy on CD - I am in Sydney & if you email me or send me your details we can talk about payment etc. Thanks heaps Allan Sharpe sharpies at idx.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Lawrence" To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: HW:QS&C Album/CD > Hi > There were people on the list that wanted this I believe. > I have noticed a couple of copies of this in Melbourne(AUS),they are on > virgin label,and priced approx $AUS20. > If somebody wants one , let me know and i'll get one for them. > Please email offlist. > > regards > > Marty > From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Oct 17 03:56:33 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 03:56:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: Motorhead signing session Message-ID: Motorhead legend Lemmy will be at the Virgin Megastore in London's Oxford Street on Friday, October 18. Why? He'll be signing copies of his autobiography 'White Line Fever'. The man will be present, quill in hand, from 6pm. The book itself is published by Simon & Schuster on November 4. From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Oct 17 03:58:34 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 03:58:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place Message-ID: That, combined with the absence of Saturday night shows, would be a yes. gits SAH On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:05:18 -0500, rich.warren wrote: >lol. > >Is the use of git faced gits from the git place a reference to the lack of >dates in Scotland ;-) > >Rich > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "The Rocker" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:39 AM >Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place > > >> Hawkwind will follow up their appearance with Motorhead and Anthrax at >> London's Wembley Arena on October 19 with their own headlining shows just >> prior to Xmas. So far confirmed are Hanley Victoria Hall December 5, >> Manchester Academy 2 6, Liverpool Creem At The Lomax 8, Brighton Concorde >2 >> 12, London Walthamstow Assembly Hall 13. The band are to release a live >> album recorded at the Canterbury Fayre in 201. As yet untitled, it is to >be >> made available on Voiceprint. >> >> SAH From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Thu Oct 17 04:44:20 2002 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:44:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Possible set list for Wembley Message-ID: As I cannot make saturday's gig, here is a guess at a setlist that might impress the hordes of unwashed 'eadbangers at Wembley :o) Born to Go Kings of Speed Right to Decide Alchemy/Reptoid Vision The Right Stuff Hassan I Sabha Angels of Death Master of the Universe Motorhead (with Lemmy ) Probably won't be anything like the above, (dunno how long HW will play) but I think that would do the trick. Whatever is played, enjoy. Cheers Neil. PS: To any Hawkpeople not sure of Anthrax, give em a go, they are a *lot* better with John Bush singing. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu Oct 17 04:46:23 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:46:23 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: So HW on for 45 minutesish, so I'll be in the bar from 7.30 till about 11 maybe popping back in briefly if Motorhead play one of the 4 songs of there's I know. Luckily the 4 of us are in the elite bunch of 1600 standing 'eadbangers which I agreed to as it's quicker to get to the bar and the bog. See some of you in front of the stage at 6.45 then? -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lee To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 16/10/02 17:52 Subject: Re: Wembley Thinks its HW, Anthrax, Motorhead. HW at 6.45 according to MC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jobson, Eddie" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Wembley > Well I bought one! And I'm going with 3 others. One of them is an Anthrax > fan, so they'll only be 3 of us in the bar when they're on and there are > loads of bars inside the venue selling weak lager in plastic cups. What is > the appearance order? Anthraz, Hawkwind, Motorhead? > > -----Original Message----- > From: rich.warren > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Sent: 16/10/02 17:28 > Subject: HW: Wembley > > Having Never Been to Wembley, is there a safe place to hide from > Anthrax, i.e bars or other areas, since I'm not sure I want to put > myself through the torture. > > It doesn't like there are enough list people going to fill a mini. > Apathy Rules. > > Anyone know how many tickets have sold for Wembley? > > Rich From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 17 05:47:10 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:47:10 +0100 Subject: Wembley In-Reply-To: Jobson, Eddie's message of Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:46:23 +0100 Message-ID: Jobson, Eddie writes: > So HW on for 45 minutesish, so I'll be in the bar from 7.30 till about 11 > maybe popping back in briefly if Motorhead play one of the 4 songs of > there's I know. Luckily the 4 of us are in the elite bunch of 1600 standing > 'eadbangers which I agreed to as it's quicker to get to the bar and the bog. > See some of you in front of the stage at 6.45 then? Can't really come from Scotland for 45 minutes. Could someone tape the show and get in touch? I'll save up my pennies for the xmas tourette... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 17 05:47:45 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:47:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: For Sale - Hassan 7"s In-Reply-To: Ande Tucker's message of Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:16:01 -0700 Message-ID: Ande Tucker writes: > I'm going to be selling my Hawkwind (and related collection) > > first up for sale > > > Italy 7" - $250 > Hassan I Sahba / Damnation Alley Part II > record is mint, sleeve is 99% mint > > France 7" - $500 > Hassan I Sahba / Fable of a Failed Race > record is mint, no picture sleeve issued, but comes in one those > record label generic sleeves with a basic design. Sleeve is VG, but > does have some small writing in one corner So did the French one go? If not I'll make an offer.... Cheers Mike From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Oct 17 08:39:50 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:39:50 -0300 Subject: HW: OFF: Landing Pad; Rotunda Spacerock Fest, Philadelphia, 11/9 Message-ID: I have uploaded the flyer on The OEBs site. Just click on the thumbnail and see it bigger!!! http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com Peace, Mike From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Thu Oct 17 11:56:59 2002 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:56:59 +0200 Subject: OFF: Nektar shows in Germany Message-ID: Hey all... Not sure if this is critical information for most listmembers, even those *interested* in Nektar these days, but there are some new dates for Nektar in December in Germany. Which is important for me, 'cause now I won't take the time off to go to London for the Classic Rock weekend thing (29/11) but will rather take the short train trip to Stuttgart to see them Dec. 4th. (And so now I will go instead to Brighton and Walthamstow the following week of December. What is the hotel of choice in Brighton, Arin?) Here's the latest concert news. http://www.nektarmusic.co.uk/Latest%20concert%20news.htm Elsewhere there at this site (the nektar2000.com site has seemingly been replaced by this one), you can find info about the DVD they have released from the reunion show at NEARfest, and also about the properly reissued (finally!) version of Remember the Future on CD, and Man in the Moon too. I can't tell exactly who will be playing at what particular gig, or whether Mick Brockett will again be doing lights (like at NEARfest). I can only imagine that the Shepherd's Bush show and these German shows will be quite similar and feature most (if not all) of the original lineup, and a host of old songs to go along with perhaps a few new ones. In any case, it will make me feel better about missing the New Jersey event. Now only if I heard some concrete Amon Duul II news!! Grakkl (FAA) From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Oct 17 14:07:40 2002 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (Steve Johnson) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:07:40 EDT Subject: HW: Yule Ritual Insert Message-ID: In a message dated 11/10/02 20:00:47 GMT Daylight Time, m.j.crook at TALK21.COM writes: > Has anyone sent off for the updated Yule Ritual cd insert > which VP are sending out to anyone who writes to them asking for one? (It > was mentioned on Mission Control) > And if so, is there any significant difference from the original artwork? > The new one is much better. The only thing the same is the front cover. They also send you a new tray liner with 'Money Tree' changed to 'Spacebrock'. All you need to do is write to Voiceprint. No SAE needed. I enclosed on, but they didn't use it. Engage! Steve. From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Thu Oct 17 14:24:50 2002 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:24:50 -0400 Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place Message-ID: I guess this would be the earliest live recording of Hawkwind by a long shot then Jeff From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Oct 17 15:48:05 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:48:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: Nektar shows in Germany In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Take it from this Yankee who saw them at NEARfest. You WILL NOT be disappointed!! Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Henderson Keith Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:57 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: OFF: Nektar shows in Germany Hey all... Not sure if this is critical information for most listmembers, even those *interested* in Nektar these days, but there are some new dates for Nektar in December in Germany. Which is important for me, 'cause now I won't take the time off to go to London for the Classic Rock weekend thing (29/11) but will rather take the short train trip to Stuttgart to see them Dec. 4th. (And so now I will go instead to Brighton and Walthamstow the following week of December. What is the hotel of choice in Brighton, Arin?) Here's the latest concert news. http://www.nektarmusic.co.uk/Latest%20concert%20news.htm Elsewhere there at this site (the nektar2000.com site has seemingly been replaced by this one), you can find info about the DVD they have released from the reunion show at NEARfest, and also about the properly reissued (finally!) version of Remember the Future on CD, and Man in the Moon too. I can't tell exactly who will be playing at what particular gig, or whether Mick Brockett will again be doing lights (like at NEARfest). I can only imagine that the Shepherd's Bush show and these German shows will be quite similar and feature most (if not all) of the original lineup, and a host of old songs to go along with perhaps a few new ones. In any case, it will make me feel better about missing the New Jersey event. Now only if I heard some concrete Amon Duul II news!! Grakkl (FAA) From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 17 15:09:05 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:09:05 +0000 Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? Message-ID: I heard some news and I don't know if it's true or what?? Roly... Ed's bro has died ..is dead..one o great bass player>>>Dub done gone man!!! does anyone know if its's gosple??Al. _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 17 14:59:57 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:59:57 +0000 Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD Message-ID: the Hassan is off a live vid 'love in space@ Brixton95/96???And the other traqck is PXR>5 >>>Lyrics anyway???AL. >From: Neil Shilladay >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Ambient Anarchists CD >Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:20:32 +0100 > >Hi to one and all, >I've been away from the list for some time and have only just rejoined. >Lots happening in the HW camp at the mo, I'll just have to catch up with >the WotW and new cd stuff. > >While I've been away, I bought the Snapper Music compilation 'Ambient >Anarchists' > >Whilst posessing a moderate amount of HW cds, I don't have everything, and >compared to the good folks on this list - I am but an amateur. :o) > >Can anyone identify the 3rd track on CD1, which is labelled as High Rise, >but most certainly isn't. >(Lyrics start with : >"3 years ago our nova drive failed, >and we drifted in space.....") > >Also, can anyone help me out where some of the tracks originally come from, >such as the blinding version of Hasan I Sahba (sounds mid 90s with Alan >Davey) > >Good to be back. >(Even tho I did mess up registration - thanks Ben for sorting me out !) > >Cheers >Neil > > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of >the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group >unless otherwise specifically stated. >Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise >Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this >message. > >If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in >error, please notify Microlise immediately. > >Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Oct 17 15:20:56 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:20:56 -0400 Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? Message-ID: He died awhile ago. I have no idea when or how. It came from a reliable source though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "alan day" To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:09 PM Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? > I heard some news and I don't know if it's true or what?? Roly... Ed's bro > has died ..is dead..one o great bass player>>>Dub done gone man!!! does > anyone know if its's gosple??Al. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Oct 17 15:32:06 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:32:06 +0100 Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? Message-ID: He took his own life. Must've been a couple of years ago now. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephe lindas" To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? > He died awhile ago. I have no idea when or how. It came from a reliable > source though. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alan day" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:09 PM > Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? > > > > I heard some news and I don't know if it's true or what?? Roly... Ed's bro > > has died ..is dead..one o great bass player>>>Dub done gone man!!! does > > anyone know if its's gosple??Al. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Oct 17 15:18:52 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:18:52 -0500 Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? Message-ID: He's been dead for an absolute age, Ozrics replacement bass player ZIA has just called it quits though. Anyone fancy playing Bass for Ozrics? Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "alan day" To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? > I heard some news and I don't know if it's true or what?? Roly... Ed's bro > has died ..is dead..one o great bass player>>>Dub done gone man!!! does > anyone know if its's gosple??Al. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Oct 17 17:39:19 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:39:19 EDT Subject: OFF: Nektar shows in Germany Message-ID: Saw them 3xs this summer...original line-up... plus Larry Fast on Synths and 2 back-up singers..plus an xtra percussionist and the original Mick Brockett Light show..ya might wanna check this show out if there's nuthin on teley of course ;) bill From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Oct 17 17:54:05 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:54:05 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: > Can't really come from Scotland for 45 minutes. Could someone tape the > show and get in touch? I'll save up my pennies for the xmas tourette... "Tourette" Mike? Check out www.tourettes.com for the American view of this nasty condition - then check out www.tourettes.co.uk for the British view on it... :-) Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Oct 17 17:55:08 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:55:08 +0100 Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? Message-ID: Yeah - I'll give it a go, so long as the rehearsals are about as frequent as BPNF ones. :-( Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich.warren" To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? > He's been dead for an absolute age, Ozrics replacement bass player ZIA has > just called it quits though. Anyone fancy playing Bass for Ozrics? > > Rich > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alan day" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:09 PM > Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? > > > > I heard some news and I don't know if it's true or what?? Roly... Ed's bro > > has died ..is dead..one o great bass player>>>Dub done gone man!!! does > > anyone know if its's gosple??Al. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Thu Oct 17 18:46:05 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:46:05 UT Subject: BOC Recommendations? Message-ID: >Extra Terrestrial Live is a good showcase of BOC >songs, although it omits >Flaming Telepaths. The new DVD should be good too - >mine should get here >in the next couple of days > >Jeff I would recommend Curse of the Hidden Mirror, but not as a primer. It's certainly not indicative of the creative heights BOC has achieved musically or lyrically, but it's a damn good album, and I think it proves that BOC still has more to offer. BTW. . . does anybody happen to know how BOC's last three albums, from HF to LDN, have fared commercially? I know they weren't chart-toppers by any means, but I'm wondering if the new albums are making these guys money. . . which would in turn keep them recording, hopefully for a few more discs at least. And who do we blame for "Pocket" not being a hit??? As a former on-air radio guy (--currently writing for radio) My humble opinion is that it really could have been a hit. And was there ever even a second single??? I heard Pocket once, but never heard anything else. --Nick From wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET Thu Oct 17 22:42:35 2002 From: wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET (Warrick Bell) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:42:35 -0400 Subject: BOC: Allen Lanier singing onstage? Message-ID: A question to those of you who have lived in more BOC-frequented parts of the world then I, and have seen them perform live: We all know that Allen did vocals on "True Confessions" and with the recent appearance of another Lanier vocal in "Dance the Night Away" I was wondering, does he ever get a mic of his own onstage, or does he ever do any vocal work at all? Just wondering, Warrick Bell "Census Makes Gains in Reducing Number of People Not Counted" --New York Times, 14 February 2001 From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Oct 18 04:35:40 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:35:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place Message-ID: And that makes DB how old ? :-) Tone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff P" To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 7:24 PM Subject: Re: HW: Git faced gits from the git place > I guess this would be the earliest live recording of Hawkwind by a long > shot then > > Jeff > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 06:37:32 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:37:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual Insert In-Reply-To: Steve Johnson's message of Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:07:40 EDT Message-ID: Steve Johnson writes: > The new one is much better. The only thing the same is the front cover. > They also send you a new tray liner with 'Money Tree' changed to > 'Spacebrock'. > All you need to do is write to Voiceprint. No SAE needed. I enclosed on, > but they didn't use it. Yep, kudos to Voiceprint on this. Keep it up and they'll be heading for Griffin status in the Hawkwind pantheon. > Engage! FoFP Federation Black Ops Motto: "Fuck the Prime Directive, Kick Alien Ass." From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 06:39:07 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:39:07 +0100 Subject: Wembley In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:54:05 +0100 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > > Can't really come from Scotland for 45 minutes. Could someone tape the > > show and get in touch? I'll save up my pennies for the xmas tourette... > > "Tourette" Mike? Bollocks! FoFP From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Oct 18 08:13:55 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:13:55 EDT Subject: HW:QS&C Album/CD Message-ID: In a message dated Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:59:21 AEDT, Allan Sharpe writes: Just in case my private email didn't get trhu(michaelangelo68) - I'll send here as well - sorry for the post that is irrellavent to everyone else dudes but Im sure you understand :-) I Desperatly want one - yess!! I live in South Oz email me here - I am making a move michael_1968 at ozemail.com.au Cheers Michael B > Marty > > You didn't give an offlist email address. > I would love a copy on CD - I am in Sydney & if you email me or send me your > details we can talk about payment etc. > > Thanks heaps > > Allan Sharpe > sharpies at idx.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marty Lawrence" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:11 AM > Subject: HW:QS&C Album/CD > > > > Hi > > There were people on the list that wanted this I believe. > > I have noticed a couple of copies of this in Melbourne(AUS),they are on > > virgin label,and priced approx $AUS20. > > If somebody wants one , let me know and i'll get one for them. > > Please email offlist. > > > > regards > > > > Marty > > From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Oct 18 08:17:37 2002 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John Swartz) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:17:37 -0400 Subject: BOC Recommendations? Message-ID: > I would recommend Curse of the Hidden Mirror, but not as a primer. It's certainly not indicative of the creative heights BOC has achieved musically or lyrically, but it's a damn good album, and I think it proves that BOC still has more to offer. I would agree. You can read the BOC FAQ for more recommendations (http://members.aol.com/bocfaqman/faq.html). Secret Treaties was my first BOC album (I was a big Godzilla movie fan, and I wanted to hear this song called "Godzilla" by this band called "Blue Oyster Cult" - I found Secret Treaties in a used record store and the rest, as they say, is history) and I was hooked, although I think On Your Feet or On Your Knees really got me into BOC. > > BTW. . . does anybody happen to know how BOC's last three albums, from HF to LDN, have fared commercially? I know they weren't chart-toppers by any means, but I'm wondering if the new albums are making these guys money. . . which would in turn keep them recording, hopefully for a few more discs at least. Numbers of something less than 100,000 (I heard between 40,000 and 80,000) were mentioned the summer after Heaven Forbid came out. My guess is that Curse may have sold something less than that (based only on the fact that HF was sort of BOC's "comeback" album, and also because it had 3 singles to Curse's one), and the jury is still out on LDN. Of course, LDN may get more sales simply because many BOC fans will buy the CD *and* the DVD -- I would take a WAG that the 3 albums in total will sell around 200,000 to a quarter of a million units. > And who do we blame for "Pocket" not being a hit??? As a former on-air radio guy (--currently writing for radio) My humble opinion is that it really could have been a hit. And was there ever even a second single??? I heard Pocket once, but never heard anything else. Blame it on CMC International (a division of BMG records), I guess. I'm no radio guy, but I thought that "Pocket" definitely had great radio play potential. A good summertime, roll-down-top, hit the highway and crankitup type of song. Unfortunately, I think CMC's budget is too small to really promote their artists - they basically seem to exist to give bands that were once big a vehicle to release their current music for their long-time fans. John From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Oct 18 08:21:03 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:21:03 EDT Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place Message-ID: In a message dated Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:41:03 AEDT, "Captain Bl at ck" writes: > And that makes DB how old ? :-) > > Tone Thirty sumthin, innit? ;-) From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Oct 18 08:35:40 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:35:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: Allen Lanier singing onstage? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20021017223723.009ec8d0@192.168.0.1> Message-ID: Warrick Bell wrote: > We all know that Allen did vocals on "True Confessions" and with the > recent appearance of another Lanier vocal in "Dance the Night Away" I was > wondering, does he ever get a mic of his own onstage, or does he ever do > any vocal work at all? I've seen him mouthing the words to a few songs, albeit nowhere near a microphone. Does that count? ;-) Brian NP> The Bevis Frond "Superseeder" From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Fri Oct 18 09:10:55 2002 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 14:10:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Git faced gits from the git place In-Reply-To: <178.1036513b.2ae156b0@aol.com> Message-ID: Bloody 'ell - and he told me he was 21. I thought he looked a bit worn around the edges. Must be the lifestyle :^) Horse On 18 Oct 2002 at 8:21, Michael W Blackman wrote: > In a message dated Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:41:03 AEDT, "Captain Bl at ck" writes: > > > And that makes DB how old ? :-) > > > > Tone > > Thirty sumthin, innit? > ;-) From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Oct 18 13:09:46 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:09:46 -0400 Subject: HW: BOC: Larry Fast Message-ID: RE Nektar >... plus Larry Fast on Synths I don't know if this has been covered before, but Larry Fast may provide a non-Moorcock BOC-HW link. He played synths on several Nektar albums, and Bob Calvert guested on another (though they didn't both appear together) and allmusic.com claims Larry Fast played synths on Revolution by Night (presumably just a few tracks). My CD copy of RBN has squat in the way of liner-notes, no personnel list, and my vinyl copy seems to have gone AWOL, so I can't check that out though. Stephan From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Oct 18 12:57:31 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:57:31 -0500 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: Hopefully I'll catch up with whichever boc-lers are going ;-) In the bar(s) during Anthrax definately seems a good bet. See you all tomorrow :-) I should be in a rather fetching Turquoise TieDye, or a Summer Camp T Shirt. Since the rest of the audience will no doubt be sporting metal mutha motorhead t's, it'll no doubt make it easy to find at least some of you. Rich W From coral at APORT.RU Fri Oct 18 13:16:32 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 21:16:32 +0400 Subject: HW: BOC: Larry Fast Message-ID: He also played synth on Meat Loaf's "Dead Ringer" (81). Alisa > I don't know if this has been covered before, but Larry Fast may provide a > non-Moorcock BOC-HW link. He played synths on several Nektar albums, and Bob > Calvert guested on another (though they didn't both appear together) and > allmusic.com claims Larry Fast played synths on Revolution by Night > (presumably just a few tracks). My CD copy of RBN has squat in the way of > liner-notes, no personnel list, and my vinyl copy seems to have gone AWOL, > so I can't check that out though. > > Stephan > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Oct 18 13:26:06 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:26:06 -0400 Subject: HW: BOC: Larry Fast In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20021018170946.00723e1c@pop.pipeline.com> Message-ID: Stephan Forstner wrote: > I don't know if this has been covered before, but Larry Fast may provide a > non-Moorcock BOC-HW link. He played synths on several Nektar albums, and Bob > Calvert guested on another (though they didn't both appear together) and > allmusic.com claims Larry Fast played synths on Revolution by Night > (presumably just a few tracks). My CD copy of RBN has squat in the way of > liner-notes, no personnel list, and my vinyl copy seems to have gone AWOL, > so I can't check that out though. I asked the BOC FAQ (Thanks John) http://members.aol.com/bocfaqman/boc_faq.html and it said: > Larry Fast/Synergy (additional synthesizer programming) Brian -- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/171/vincent_price_talking_lawn.html "It's like an old comfortable shoe -- with a nail coming through it," Glen Matlock, on gigging with The Sex Pistols From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Oct 18 15:06:37 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:06:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: See you there Rich; purple summer camp t-shirt on me. Cheers, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich.warren" To: Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: HW: Wembley Hopefully I'll catch up with whichever boc-lers are going ;-) In the bar(s) during Anthrax definately seems a good bet. See you all tomorrow :-) I should be in a rather fetching Turquoise TieDye, or a Summer Camp T Shirt. Since the rest of the audience will no doubt be sporting metal mutha motorhead t's, it'll no doubt make it easy to find at least some of you. Rich W From drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM Fri Oct 18 15:29:05 2002 From: drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM (David Blair) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:29:05 +0100 Subject: HW: BOC: Larry Fast In-Reply-To: <000801c276ca$1b42a8e0$1a84dac3@ghostwheel3> Message-ID: In article <000801c276ca$1b42a8e0$1a84dac3 at ghostwheel3>, Alisa writes >He also played synth on Meat Loaf's "Dead Ringer" (81). > >Alisa > >> I don't know if this has been covered before, but Larry Fast may provide a >> non-Moorcock BOC-HW link. He played synths on several Nektar albums, and >Bob >> Calvert guested on another (though they didn't both appear together) and >> allmusic.com claims Larry Fast played synths on Revolution by Night >> (presumably just a few tracks). My CD copy of RBN has squat in the way of >> liner-notes, no personnel list, and my vinyl copy seems to have gone AWOL, >> so I can't check that out though. >> >> Stephan >> For a really tenuous Larry Fast/HW link, he also played for Peter Gabriel for a while, and Jonathan Smeeton (Liquid Len) did lighting for Gabriel on at least one tour. -- David Blair From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Oct 18 17:20:52 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:20:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual Insert Message-ID: We put up a couple of scans of the updated 6 page YR insert via: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/alb/yr.htm From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Oct 18 19:59:59 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:59:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: Off to the show & Comments on the new CD Message-ID: Well I am off to the Clifton Park Blue Oyster Cult show. Actually it has already started but I didn't wish to see "Antigone Rising" only BOC. I am very UNimpressed with the new cd. I have Sndbd and FM shows that sound better in my ROIO collection. I just don't get why a band would release a show that was so muddy. Well what can ya do. Live in person it the thing anyway, and thats what I'm going to do now. Don't expect a set list.. I don't have much of a memory for those sorts of things.. Can't imagine why....... Mike _____________________________________________ Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. -- Charles Kuralt From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Oct 19 02:13:28 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:13:28 -0400 Subject: Off to the show & Comments on the new CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: well... In regards to the sound quality of the CD I must apologies as my portable was set with the bass boost when I listened.. Durr. Sounds much better without. Now on to the concert. No Bucks Boogie!?! Very strange. No set lists as I warned but the band was very tight. I was standing four people away from the stage and enjoyed seeing the band so close. Closest I have ever been except for one SWB show in SF but that was so long ago I really don't remember it that well.. LOL Great show and performances. Eric's voice sounded great and Allan's guitar solo during Last Days of May was great. Buck just gets better every year I see him. Must be an age thing. Allan and Eric were playing a beautiful blue guitar (not at the same time of course) with a great airbrush painting of the BOC Cross with the reaper standing in front of it. Sorry I don't know brand types by sight. Buck played a lot of stuff on a headless guitar as well as a white guitar with divots in it looking almost like Swiss cheese. I noticed also that Allan closes his eyes when he does the intro to Joan Crawford. Dominance - Submission yea that too. Godzilla/Reaper of course. Lips in the Hills as one of the encores was an interesting choice which I very much enjoyed. New stuff was Perfect Water, See you in Black and Pockets. The mix was decent for Northern Lights but the keyboards were too low as usual. The opening act was Antigone Rising which is an all girl band that doesn't seem sure of it's identity. Sometimes they sounded like Cheryl Crow and sometimes like Janis. They had a fantastic wind player that really put a prog spin on one of the instrumentals they played but overall it was a snoozefest for me. They started at 9 so the boys didn't go on until 11. Probably why we didn't get a Bucks Boogie. Thanks for playing read the meandering review game. Out. Mike _____________________________________________ Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. -- Charles Kuralt ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Mike Montfort ::Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 8:00 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: BOC: Off to the show & Comments on the new CD :: :: ::Well I am off to the Clifton Park Blue Oyster Cult show. Actually it has ::already started but I didn't wish to see "Antigone Rising" only BOC. :: ::I am very UNimpressed with the new cd. I have Sndbd and FM ::shows that sound ::better in my ROIO collection. I just don't get why a band would ::release a ::show that was so muddy. Well what can ya do. Live in person it ::the thing ::anyway, and that's what I'm going to do now. :: ::Don't expect a set list.. I don't have much of a memory for ::those sorts of ::things.. :: ::Can't imagine why....... :: ::Mike ::_____________________________________________ :: ::Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to ::travel from ::coast to coast without seeing anything. :: ::-- Charles Kuralt :: From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Sat Oct 19 10:45:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:45:00 +0100 Subject: Huw DVD Message-ID: If anyone in here was among the first batch of Huw LL DVDs I sent out, perhaps you'd like to post comments/review, etc? All feedback welcomed! http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/huwdvd.htm ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Oct 19 12:06:54 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 12:06:54 -0400 Subject: Allen Lanier singing onstage? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20021017223723.009ec8d0@192.168.0.1> Message-ID: Allan did not have a mic last night. Anyone going to the FLA show tonight? Mike _____________________________________________ Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. -- Charles Kuralt ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Warrick Bell ::Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:43 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: BOC: Allen Lanier singing onstage? :: :: ::A question to those of you who have lived in more BOC-frequented parts of ::the world then I, and have seen them perform live: :: We all know that Allen did vocals on "True Confessions" ::and with the ::recent appearance of another Lanier vocal in "Dance the Night Away" I was ::wondering, does he ever get a mic of his own onstage, or does he ever do ::any vocal work at all? :: ::Just wondering, :: ::Warrick Bell :: :: ::"Census Makes Gains in Reducing Number of People Not Counted" :: --New York Times, 14 February 2001 :: From mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Oct 19 12:48:47 2002 From: mjec.storer at NTLWORLD.COM (M&J Storer) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 17:48:47 +0100 Subject: Huw DVD Message-ID: Steve, Many thanx for a quick response sending DVD. Unfortunately my DVD player is on the blink. Will gladly send comments on contents when it's fixed!! Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 3:45 PM Subject: Huw DVD > If anyone in here was among the first batch of Huw LL DVDs I sent out, > perhaps you'd like to post comments/review, etc? All feedback welcomed! > > http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/huwdvd.htm > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Oct 19 13:48:14 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:48:14 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 10/12 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: For comments/questions/requests, before, during or after the program, e-mail me at: . 10/12/02 1.Floating Flower "Yasei no uma no tategami ga suki" (1st; Black Plastic Sound) 2.Horchata/Ocosi "Spoo CC" (ST'd; Zero1 Media) 3.Daniel Denis "A L'ombre du zed" (Serius and the Ghosts; Cuneiform) 4.Residents "Another Land" (Mark of the Mole; Ralph) 5.Harmonia '76 "Les Demoiselles" (Tracks and Traces; Rykodisc) 6.Vas Deferens Org/Electric Co "Deglazed and Malaised" (More Pelvis Wick for the Baloney Boners; Tekito) 7.Amon Duul II "Hawk Meets Penguin pt. 1" (Hawk Meets Penguin; Magnum) 8.Triple 0 "Part IV (Crypto Sensus; Musea/Gazul) 9.Quarkspace "D.O.B.H. #2" (Spacefolds 6; Eternity's Jest) 10.Magic Mushroom Band "Pictures in My Mind" (The Spaced Collection; Cleopatra) 11.Hawkwind "The Camera that Could Lie" (It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous; Griffin/EBS) 12.Groundhogs "Cherry Red" (Split; EMI) 13.Mushroom "Still Waiting (Hydrogen Jukebox; Timothy's Brain) 14.Escapade "Interstellar Overdrive" (Rule #3; Submergence/Mother West) 15.Popol Vuh "title-track" (Sing, for Song Drives Away the Wolves; Milan) 16.Brainticket "To Another Universe" (Celestial Ocean; Purple Pyramid/Cleopatra) 17.Korai Orom "track #6" (Sound and Vision 2000) thanks, Chuck From mark.painter at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sat Oct 19 19:53:33 2002 From: mark.painter at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Mark Painter) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 00:53:33 +0100 Subject: BOC Suggestions. Message-ID: BOC-L Digest - 17 Oct 2002 to 18 Oct 2002 (#2002-303)Thanks guys - plenty to go through. Will let you know if I become BOC and Hawk person. Mark From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Oct 19 21:32:12 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:32:12 -0400 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: +++ + STAR WARRIORS + + Some sample pictures from last night's Wembley gig are on Mission Control http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm More to come........... ++ MESSAGE ENDS + + From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Oct 19 22:20:51 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 11:50:51 +0930 Subject: BOC Suggestions. Message-ID: Cant wait to hear back holding my breath starting.............................. NOW! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Painter To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: BOC Suggestions. BOC-L Digest - 17 Oct 2002 to 18 Oct 2002 (#2002-303)Thanks guys - plenty to go through. Will let you know if I become BOC and Hawk person. Mark From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Sun Oct 20 04:43:58 2002 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 09:43:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley In-Reply-To: <200210200132.VAA03929@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Cheers for the pics Rik - what was the gig like. Anyone going to do a review for the list? Horse On 19 Oct 2002 at 21:32, Rik Rx wrote: > +++ + > > STAR WARRIORS + + > > Some sample pictures from last night's Wembley gig are on Mission Control > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm > > More to come........... > > ++ MESSAGE ENDS + + From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sun Oct 20 06:37:36 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 06:37:36 -0400 Subject: Wembley gig Message-ID: How was it? Which tracks did they do with Lemmy? Cheers STEPHE From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Sun Oct 20 07:06:50 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:06:50 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: My opinion Sound was crap Venue was crap No drinking or smoking in auditorium Set included Ejection, Angels of Death, Motorway City, Hurry on Sundown, Master of the Universe and The Gremlin (with Arthur Brown), The Watcher, Asassins of Allah (best number in my view as it was the first time Alan's vocals could be heard!) and Silver Machine with Lemmy. Might have been one or two other songs I've forgot. Line up was Dave, Ali, Tim, Huw, Richard with Arthur Brown and Lemmy guesting. On stage for about 45 minutes. Dave's vocals were a bit too loud, Tim's keyboards were either defeaning or you couldn't hear them, no vocals for Alan for most of set and the occasional elctrical buzz. Anthrax were too heavy for me. Motorhead were okay but I only new about 6 of their songs, No Class, Iron Fist, Bomber, Overkill, Metropolis and Ace of Spades, but it was loud my ears are still ringing. Eddie. From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Sun Oct 20 08:40:45 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:40:45 UT Subject: OFF: Mountain Message-ID: I don't know how many people still buy Mountain albums, but did anybody else pick up their new one, "Mystic Fire"? I'm curious what people think of it. I think it's pretty decent. Although it's more of a balls-out rocker than "classic" Mountain, due to the departure (from the band and this world) of Felix and his hippie asthetic. Leslie's in control now, and he's a no apologies axe slinger and riff monger. Overall, I'd say they've aged well. . . mostly because Leslie seems not to have aged at all mentally or emotionally. :) --Nick From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Oct 20 07:48:14 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:48:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: 35007 (was: Pseudo Sun) Message-ID: The new album (or mini album - about 37 mins) is awesome - all instrumental, searing guitar work and greatly atmospheric - a CD Services fave rite now - always on my headphones just lately. Fine band!!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Stuewe" To: Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:39 PM Subject: Re: OFF: 35007 (was: Pseudo Sun) Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > I've heard of 35007 as a stoner band, I'm impressed they were > supporting HW as the two scenes so often seem not to touch each > other. Bedouin should have signed to Rise Above or the late lamented Man's > Ruin ages ago, it's not like there's that much difference in > style... And there's a band like Red Giant in the US who are really > stoner-metal more than space, got tied up in the Strange Daze thing > and no-one on stonerrock.com knows who they are... Anyway, if 35007 > managed to cross the zone that's good. Which of the two albums is the one > to get? I've been wondering about their stuff for a while now. > Check out the first one, "Especially for you" from 1994. The second one (just called 35007) is sounding more industrial. Both still feature their old vocalist. Haven?t heard the new album, but it must be like the "Von Braun" EP which came out last year and isn?t bad. Andreas From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Oct 20 09:20:19 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:20:19 +0100 Subject: Wembley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My ears are still ringing too. Motorhead set list for those interested - We Are Motorhead No Class Shoot You In The Back Civil War God Save The Queen Brave New World Metropolis Love For Sale (I think) Dr Rock Ramones Shut Your Mouth Damage Case You Better Run Sacrifice Orgasmatron Going To Brazil Killed By Death Iron Fist ----------- Bomber Ace of Spades Overkill Good selection I thought. HW sounded better from nearer the stage, but back by the mixing desk it was a bit of a muddle. Loads of guitar feedback at one point for Huw. Alans vocals only cut in during the Watcher. Arthur Brown clearly didn't know the words to Master but it didn't stop him. Tim seemed to be playing mainly synthy swizzles, and at some points just wandered offstage altogether. Despite these problems they were pretty tight, especially Huw, Master was very good, the Palestine section in Hassan was kept brief. I'm glad I went, it was fun, a variation on a HW gig that you won't see very often! If they got some dosh for it and recruited a few more HW fans then so much the better. Can anybody here confirm my belief that the Anthrax number Antisocial is in fact the song by the French band Trust who toured with Iron Maiden in 1981? So, what's happened to Simon, and will he be at Walthamstow on Thurs? Anybody know? AL --- "Jobson, Eddie" wrote: > My opinion > > Sound was crap > Venue was crap > No drinking or smoking in auditorium > > Set included Ejection, Angels of Death, Motorway > City, Hurry on Sundown, > Master of the Universe and The Gremlin (with Arthur > Brown), The Watcher, > Asassins of Allah (best number in my view as it was > the first time Alan's > vocals could be heard!) and Silver Machine with > Lemmy. Might have been one > or two other songs I've forgot. Line up was Dave, > Ali, Tim, Huw, Richard > with Arthur Brown and Lemmy guesting. On stage for > about 45 minutes. Dave's > vocals were a bit too loud, Tim's keyboards were > either defeaning or you > couldn't hear them, no vocals for Alan for most of > set and the occasional > elctrical buzz. > > Anthrax were too heavy for me. > > Motorhead were okay but I only new about 6 of their > songs, No Class, Iron > Fist, Bomber, Overkill, Metropolis and Ace of > Spades, but it was loud my > ears are still ringing. > > Eddie. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From coral at APORT.RU Sun Oct 20 09:27:10 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:27:10 +0400 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: > So, what's happened to Simon, and will he be at > Walthamstow on Thurs? Anybody know? And Danny Thompson? Alisa From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Sun Oct 20 09:55:47 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:55:47 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: > Can anybody here confirm my belief that the Anthrax > number Antisocial is in fact the song by the French > band Trust who toured with Iron Maiden in 1981? Yes it is. Si From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Sun Oct 20 10:52:59 2002 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 10:52:59 -0400 Subject: Huw DVD Message-ID: Well, I was in the first batch to order the Huw DVD. So I guess I shouldn't sit around and wait for someone else to review this time. It was a good week for DVD's. On Monday I received BOC's Long Days Night and watched it that night (after Trudy went to bed as she only has an interest in The Reaper and Burnin' For You and doesn't understand why anyone would bother with anything else!). Very pleasing given the limitations with Eric's voice. Tuesday the Huw DVD arrived - I was impressed with the speed in which the package made it across the Atlantic. The DVD had been advertised as a semi-professional production, an accurate description. The physical package consists of a standard dvd-case, a simple computer generated cover(the back looks better than the front) and an unlabelled dvd-r within (no inserts, but most relevant information and a couple of URL's are included on the cover). The dvd loaded without any problems (on my region free player) and presented a menu of options. The concert option takes you to a sub-menu from which you can start the concert from the track of your choice. Other menu options are to go straight to the encore, play a 'photo gallery'(a series of Huw photos with Moonglum and Elric I seem to recall playing in the background) and the production notes from Colin about how things were put together and limitations and problems faced in recording/editing/producing the dvd. Despite the menu set-up playing, the concert option took me through the entire content of the cd (only got the encore once though!) including photo gallery and production notes. The show was recorded on a single camera which undersandably means that there is minimal change in view. For most of the time show Gonzalo Carrera is out of the picture except for a few rare turns of the camera. With one camera there is no option to switch to an alternate view during problem moments. Fortunately these are few and far between. There are one or two brief unfocussed moments and later in the concert a beer swiller parks himself and his drinking arm rather too close in front of the camera (and later sticks his face in front of it) but by and large the camera work is better than hoped for. The lighting works well for capturing the show. All good/forgiveable so far so let's look at what I actually found annoying. The breaks at the end of the main set and the end of the show are simple frame freezes, the transition to the encore could have been subtler, panning the audience (never saw them apart from the one guy mentioned above) and/or some fading/in out would have been nice. Still minor stuff. But. Throughout the show there are brief drop-outs. According to the production notes these resulted from problems in synching the soundboard recording to the video footage. I could have coped with this far better if it had only been a discontinuity in the video image. The dropouts in the audio were major annoyances for me and my main criticism - in the end this is a dvd of a musical experience and the integrity of the audio should have been the main concern. That leaves us with the performance! Huw goes through a large quantity of cigarettes throughout the set. I don't know if it was the presence of the camera or his usual technique, but there is a lot of silly posturing at the end of songs. Musically I felt that Huw was coasting. There were moments of good work showing off some of his technique, but no real display of his talents. The Lloyd Langton Group being a showcase for Huw's guitar skills (the other musicians are competent but just there as background) he needs to fire for it to impress and he was just idling. Huw's voice doesn't seem up to the task of carrying the vocals as well these days either. During the encore Tony Hill (High Tide) joined the band for Psychedelic Warlords and Hurry On Sundown which he seemed to have trouble following in places but his presence added to the dynamic of the situation. The Huw Lloyd Langton band was a promising offshoot from Hawkwind twenty- years ago, but since the mid 80's has gone nowhere. Within the band Huw sets himself no challenges seems to be taking a path into easy decline. We know from his recent work with Hawkwind that Huw can still deliver on the guitar, so in that respect the performance is somewhat disappointing. But this is a dvd of the HLL band, not HW. As such it definitely captures the essence of the band and is a worthwhile addition to the collections of those who still concern them this group. The discontinuities with the audio are a major blight, especially given the otherwise great soundboard quality. The video is better than I expected from what I knew of the limitations of the shotting, Colin has done a great job in capturing the concert. Huw isn't about to command the investment of money and production effort that BOC had for Long Days Night, so this is the only chance you are going to get to land yourself a DVD of the LLG for quite a while. If you've ever had an interest in the band I suggest you strongly consider getting it. If you are not familiar with them I'd suggest you try to track down some of their early recordings before bothering with it. Jeff On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:45:00 +0100, Steve Litchfield wrote: >If anyone in here was among the first batch of Huw LL DVDs I sent out, >perhaps you'd like to post comments/review, etc? All feedback welcomed! > >http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/huwdvd.htm >____________________________________________________________________ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Oct 20 12:08:06 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:08:06 EDT Subject: HW: Imperial Pompadours Widowmaker Hawkwind for sale Message-ID: Hello, I'm selling a few records (not cd's) out of my collection. if anyone is interested, please email me privately: Hawkwinder at aol.com The Imperial Pompadours - Ersatz Widowmaker - s/t (still sealed - Jet Records) Hawkwind - Decide Your Future E.P. (UK) Caravan - This Is Caravan (Metronome Records Germany) Peter Hammill & Graham Smith - Modern (Live 1979, 2-LP on Impossible Recordworks) Please email offers, plus where you live so I can factor in postage. Thank you Bob From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Oct 20 12:59:10 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:59:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley In-Reply-To: <200210200132.VAA03929@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I enjoyed the gig. The Wembley stewards and security staff were as rude and officious as ever, and whatever cock-up made Alan's vocals completely inaudible for two-thirds of the set was infuriating- how does something like that get left for so long?? The numbers most affected were 'Ejection' and 'The Watcher'- fortunately they sound surprisingly OK as near-instrumentals. The bit of feedback didn't bother me- HW were (wisely) playing it as loud and heavy as possible and I thought the noise fitted in nicely! And other than that the sound was actually very good at times: 'Angels Of Death' and 'Hassan I Sabbah' sounded great. What was going on between Huw and Alan during 'Motorway City'? Stage banter or stage barney? Anyway HW played great, and I thought they triumphed over adversity in a big way: they went down a storm and I'm sure won some new fans. Brock presumably thought so too as he looked very happy at the end, which as we know isn't always so. I was pleased to note that HW got longer than Anthrax despite being below them on the bill. Possibly the encore with Lemmy might have been unscheduled. Sounded great though, probably the best 'Silver Machine' I've heard. As for the rest of the night- I missed the first band (who were they?) but from what I could hear from the bar they sounded like fairly standard HM/thrash. Anthrax- I listened to half a song before deciding I was not going to enjoy them and adjourning to the bar. I believe this to have been a wise decision. Motorhead- first time I've seen 'em for fifteen years. They were excellent. Having only a passing acquaintance with their newer material, I was surprised to find I recognised most of what they played. The new numbers didn't grab me particularly, but it's hard to make any real judgement on a song you've never heard when it's coming at you at this earsplitting volume. God it was loud. Definitely the loudest gig I've attended, easily louder than previous MH gigs even. My ears are still ringing 20 hours later. The sheer intensity of sonic attack makes Motorhead unlike any other live band. However it also means they can sound rather samey after a while and I was glad they threw in some differently-paced numbers ('Metropolis', 'Orgasmotron', 'Going To Brazil') to break things up a bit. Also a souped-up blues thing which I can't put a name too (wasn't 'Hoochie Coochie Man' was it?). What I found really interesting- and unexpected- was this: because they push things to such an extreme of speed and noise, the music can get really quite tripped-out at times, or at least that's how it ends up when it's amplified to this level. Some of the instrumental breaks sound truly- insanely- psychedelic. I mean, Phil Campbell's free-form soloing at the end of 'Killed By Death' sounded like Jerry Garcia on speed. And the drum solo (first time I've *ever* enjoyed a drum solo, Mr Dee is impressive, sounds almost like a cross between John Bonham and Simon King!) actually sounded like some kind of futuristic hardcore drum'n'bass track at one point. Really! Well. I thought so anyway. (Lemmy would be horrified). A powerful night, and I probably won't leave it another 15 years 'til I see them again. A smaller venue might be nice. On the evidence of last night that's quite possible - the standing area was full but there looked to be plenty of unsold seats at the sides, so maybe they over-reached themselves playing this venue. -- Nick Medford From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Sun Oct 20 15:12:08 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:12:08 +0100 Subject: Wembley In-Reply-To: <001101c2783c$652f8860$c884dac3@ghostwheel3> Message-ID: I was assuming Dannys absence @ Wembley was due to lack of space on stage. With four bands on the bill it didn't look as though there was enough room for another drum kit. AL --- Alisa wrote: > > So, what's happened to Simon, and will he be at > > Walthamstow on Thurs? Anybody know? > > And Danny Thompson? > > Alisa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Oct 20 15:14:25 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:14:25 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: I suspect this may not be the case. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Linsley" To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Wembley > I was assuming Dannys absence @ Wembley was due to > lack of space on stage. With four bands on the bill > it didn't look as though there was enough room for > another drum kit. > > AL > --- Alisa wrote: > > So, what's > happened to Simon, and will he be at > > > Walthamstow on Thurs? Anybody know? > > > > And Danny Thompson? > > > > Alisa > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Oct 20 13:22:59 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:22:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mountain Message-ID: Yeh-guitar work fine but didn't you think the vocals sounded a tad shot through!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick English" To: Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:40 PM Subject: OFF: Mountain > I don't know how many people still buy Mountain albums, but did anybody else pick up their new one, "Mystic Fire"? I'm curious what people think of it. I think it's pretty decent. Although it's more of a balls-out rocker than "classic" Mountain, due to the departure (from the band and this world) of Felix and his hippie asthetic. Leslie's in control now, and he's a no apologies axe slinger and riff monger. > > Overall, I'd say they've aged well. . . mostly because Leslie seems not to have aged at all mentally or emotionally. :) > > --Nick From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Oct 20 16:31:45 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:31:45 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: I really enjoyed. Yes, band sound, but I thought band really stormed it. It was probably the loudest I've heard Dave's guitar except maybe at the Stables when I was only a couple of metres infront of his amp. Shame there was no Simon, Danny or Keith but Huw was on form (when he could be properly heard) and Tim & Arthur Brown seemed to be having a good time (sharing a vocal mic for Silver Machine springs to mind!). Skew Siskin (or whatever) wren't up to much (cheap Warlock/Doro Pesch ripoff). Quite enjoyed Anthrax and Motorhead were well up to scratch. Seems odd they played Wembley, it was only half-full ( the back half was closed off), would've thought they'd have done Brixton. Hw left me wanting more so roll on the December tour & in the meantime there's Bedouin on Thursday. Nick From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Sun Oct 20 17:05:17 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:05:17 UT Subject: OFF: Mountain Message-ID: >Yeh-guitar work fine but didn't you think the >vocals sounded a tad shot >through!! >Andy G. You're certainly right about that, although I don't think Mr. West was ever all that accomplished as a singer. But still you're right. I give him an A for effort, though. Still refusing to give up that mic. I'm surprised nobody else was singing on this one. I remember on their mid-90s album, "Man's World", Corky and the guy who played bass sang a few songs, and I thought they were actually the best songs on the disc. --Nick From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Oct 20 23:00:57 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:30:57 +0930 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: G'day. Arin? Was just wondering how the arrangements were coming along with the Xmas do. I've got my flight arranged as well as concert ticket. Whats happenin? Cheers Michael B From gg at NINJANET.COM Sun Oct 20 16:43:21 2002 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:43:21 +0200 Subject: Wembley In-Reply-To: <20021020132019.4630.qmail@web14812.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Alan wrote: > Love For Sale (I think) yes, in the last tour there is this great song! I hope they'll come to Italy, I want to see this song live! > It could be R.A.M.O.N.E.S.: from when Joey e Dee are dead, Motorhead always play live this song (1 min and half long). > > well, in this tour i see there is a song called "Just 'Cos You Got The Power", but there's not in any MH's album, it is only an old single song never republicated. Never to say about Hawkwind and Anthrax, I've never seen them live :(( ciao!, gg From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Oct 21 06:33:49 2002 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:33:49 +0100 Subject: Wembley In-Reply-To: <1276388045.20021020224321@ninjanet.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Pierluigi Fumi wrote: > well, in this tour i see there is a song called "Just 'Cos You Got The > Power", but there's not in any MH's album, it is only an old single > song never republicated. :( They certainly didn;t play that at Wembley, I really like that song Kirsten From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Mon Oct 21 07:14:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:14:00 +0100 Subject: HW: More Huw DVD review bits Message-ID: Thanks to Jeff for his honest review. Yes, there occasional between track audio dropouts of a fraction of a second, but all you miss are milliseconds of audience applause/noise, so no great loss, I hope. The music was my first priority. Yes, things like video fade-ins and outs of the main set and encore would have been nice to do, but I had limited time and equipment when I created the disc. I'm hoping an extra Huw DVD, with perhaps a few interviews and guitar tutorials, might be a possibility in the future. If there's enough interest in this DVD, then there will be impetus and finance to make the second one even more professional 8-) I received another review of the Huw LL DVD (http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/huwdvd.htm) from Richard Crossley of this list: "Well, I was at the gig and was stood about 5 feet behind the (single) camera for most of the evening and I can honestly say this recording is just as I remember the night... 'Twas one the best gigs I've seen Huw do with his band in the last 10 years or so, the DVD captures the evening exactly and the sound quality is A++. Can't recommend it highly enough. Delivery was excellent too, cheque went in the post Monday night, DVD on doormat Wednesday morning! Thanks to all involved!" Anyway, nice to preserve what I thought was a great gig. I disagree with Jeff that Huw was 'idling' - considering that he'd just recovered from Legionnaire's disease and broken wrist, etc, I think he played a blinder!!! ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Oct 21 10:55:18 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:55:18 -0500 Subject: HW: XMAS party In-Reply-To: <001101c278ae$1506b940$b8cb223f@studio> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Michael Blackman wrote: :Subject: HW: XMAS party : :G'day. :Arin? :Was just wondering how the arrangements were coming along with the Xmas do. : :I've got my flight arranged as well as concert ticket. : :Whats happenin? Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it soon. Keith H., you were interested in Brighton as well? (any others up for Brighton?) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Oct 21 10:25:20 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:25:20 -0300 Subject: HW: OFF: One Eyed Bishops studio album update (The School of Rock-n-Roll ) Message-ID: Hello friends, it is with great pleasure that I announce the following information. The One Eyed Bishops will be recording their new studio album in two UK studios during the first two weeks of January 2003. As stated earlier most of the material will be recorded at 'The Dugout' in Preston. This studio is owned and run by Rogalski, of Big Paws Records. www.BigPawsrecords.com Many of you know him from our performance at last summer's Hawkfestival in Devon. * THIS JUST IN!!!!! The OEBs will record a version of Screaming Lord Sutch's 'London Rocker' at 'The School of Rock-N-Roll' in south London. This studio is personally owned and run by Terry Clemson of The TT's. Terry was also the original lead guitarist for The Downliners Sect, and has played with greats such as Chuck Berry. In addition, Terry will play lead guitar on the cut, something he did with Sutch's group, 'The Savages'. It is with extreme happiness and excitement that I announce the personnel for this recording: Mike Burro: rhythm guitar, vocals Jay Adcock:drums, percussion Don Craine: guitar, vocals Keith Grant: bass, vocals Terry Clemson: lead guitar, production & engineering For more info about Terry, Don & Keith check out the following: Don & Keith ( Downliners Sect) www.angelfire.com/rock3/yardbird_sect/ Terry: The Official TT's and School of Rock-N-Roll website: www.tts.ttfans.com This should be a Richmond R&B extravaganza!!!!!!!! Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Oct 21 15:20:23 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:20:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nick >From your description I think this must have been You Better Run, which is from the March Or Die album (the one with Cat Scratch Fever, and I Ain't No Nice Guy with Ozzy) AL --- Nick Medford wrote: > Also a souped-up blues thing which I > can't put a name too (wasn't 'Hoochie Coochie Man' > was it?). > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Oct 21 16:57:42 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:57:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley In-Reply-To: <20021021192023.59141.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In message <20021021192023.59141.qmail at web14804.mail.yahoo.co m>, Alan Linsley writes >Nick > >>From your description I think this must have been You >Better Run, which is from the March Or Die album Well, it might be, I haven't heard that album. It started with a section where Lemmy was alone onstage, singing along with his bass in a bluesy kind of way, if that helps. Quite effective, wouldn't have minded more of that. In answer to some other posts, yes they did play R.A.M.O.N.E.S (which was good), and no they didn't play 'Just Cos You Got the Power' which is indeed a corker. -- Nick Medford From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Oct 21 17:09:05 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:09:05 -0400 Subject: HW: BOC: Larry Fast In-Reply-To: ; from blackblade@BHALLIGAN.COM on Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:26:06PM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:26:06PM -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > > Larry Fast/Synergy (additional synthesizer programming) He's worked with everybody and their dog, hasn't he? From his web site: > Artists as diverse as Hall & Oates, Foreigner, Bon > Jovi's Richie Sambora and David Bryan, Barbra Streisand, Annie Haslam > (Renaissance), Randy Newman, Joan Armatrading, Meat Loaf and many others have > called on Larry's talents. And Wendy Carlos, woohoo! Umm, does "designed hardware for" count as a link? How about all those people who played Memorymoogs -- for which Fast created some of the factory-preset timbres? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The acronym for "the powers that be" differs by only one letter from that for "the pointy-haired boss". From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Mon Oct 21 12:43:26 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:43:26 -0500 Subject: About this Huw DVD Message-ID: I know people have discussed this before on the list, but I don't seem to recall seeing any concrete information... will this Huw DVD-R play on US players? I am definitely interested if this is the case. John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Oct 21 18:43:37 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:43:37 -0500 Subject: About this Huw DVD In-Reply-To: <001f01c27920$fa8798a0$65cf3944@cstltn01.in.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, John Majka wrote: :Subject: About this Huw DVD : :I know people have discussed this before on the list, but I don't seem to :recall seeing any concrete information... will this Huw DVD-R play on US :players? I am definitely interested if this is the case. :John Majka :jmajka2 at comcast.net Steve Litchfield said: In answer to the question yesterday, the Huw DVD is not region coded. So as long as your TV/PC equipment handles PAL video, the DVD will be fine. See http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/huwdvd.htm ....so, unless your setup handles PAL (which, by default in the US, it won't), then you won't be able to play it. You could get a video converter, though.... Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Oct 21 18:53:11 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:53:11 -0500 Subject: HW: XMAS party In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party : [snip] :Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid :visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it soon. OK. I'm poking around, and it doesn't look like we'd be able to qualify for group reservations. (most places seem to want a minimum of 10 rooms reserved, and at last count, I've got only 7 rooms requested (Alisa, me + Rich, FoFP, Mike Blackman, Nick Lee, Denis + sister, Bernhard + Andreas + Rainer.)) (possible 8 with Eric S.) Any other interest? (...and would folks want only the night of the 13th?) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Oct 21 19:56:25 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:26:25 +0930 Subject: XMAS PARTY - Message-ID: and only approx 6 weeks to go. It will get harder to find accomadation the closer we get to the date. Will the Hawkpeople be needing rooms? ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:23 AM Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > : > > [snip] > > :Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid > :visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it soon. > > OK. I'm poking around, and it doesn't look like we'd be able to qualify > for group reservations. (most places seem to want a minimum > of 10 rooms reserved, and at last count, I've got only 7 rooms > requested (Alisa, me + Rich, FoFP, Mike Blackman, Nick Lee, Denis + > sister, Bernhard + Andreas + Rainer.)) > > (possible 8 with Eric S.) > > Any other interest? > > (...and would folks want only the night of the 13th?) > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Oct 21 21:34:21 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:34:21 -0400 Subject: About this Huw DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:43:37PM -0500, Arin Komins wrote: => On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, John Majka wrote: => => :Subject: About this Huw DVD => : => :I know people have discussed this before on the list, but I don't seem to => :recall seeing any concrete information... will this Huw DVD-R play on US => :players? I am definitely interested if this is the case. => :John Majka => :jmajka2 at comcast.net => => Steve Litchfield said: => => In answer to the question yesterday, the Huw DVD is not region coded. So => as long as your TV/PC equipment handles PAL video, the DVD will be fine. => => See http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/huwdvd.htm => => => ....so, unless your setup handles PAL (which, by default in the US, it => won't), then you won't be able to play it. => => You could get a video converter, though.... This doesn't make sense for digital video. Surely any half-decent system is able to do the resolution and frame rate conversion on the fly as part of the decoding process? Then it's just a matter of the analogue output stage being able to generate a TV signal using the appropriate sync and timings (just like computer video cards do when you switch video modes). The AGP graphics card in a friend's PC has a TV out that can switch between PAL and NTSC in software. Another friend's $50 el cheapo DVD player has a menu option to switch between PAL and NTSC. It's probably fairly standard across the board, so that Tiawanese board shifters can build only one design for a world market that can be configured by the end user, rather than having to build multiple versions for the USA and European markets. One size fits all is cheaper for them. Is the PAL requirement a red herring? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Mon Oct 21 22:49:22 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 02:49:22 +0000 Subject: Playing region coded DVD (was: About this Huw DVD) Message-ID: Hi ya, This is so off I made a private reply, but then maybe this is of use to others so here comes a blatent plug for a 'proper' operating system - linux. It is not obviouse that linux has a DVD player (actually there are a few in different stages of development) Most distributions will not provide all the software you need for fear of leagal action because the DVD Consortium (bunch of deluded idiots) don't like the idea that their encryption is so piss-easy to de-crypt (both private and public keys are on the DVD duh!). Well the software to de-crypt is out there so is the source code. The point is you can play dvd on players where the region has not yet been set. Also you can play DVD from a region that is different to the one that is set. PAL/NTSC is not a problem, it only affects output to a tv. To output to a tv you need an mpeg card. The card is correct for your tv:-) Just tell the player (software) what the DVD is and all will be well. I can't vouch for every dvd drive, but my LG is set to region 2 but it plays "Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas" (region 1) fine. OK IMHO xine is the best dvd player (software) and its not quite 100%. I have a dvd where the menu does not work 100% but everything is accessible. (a lot of menus don't display correctly but everything is there and works, even as I write the software is being improved, there is even a program to help set your mpeg card up???) If you want help with setting your box up in this way (To fully optimize a system is not trivial and not properly documented) please ask me. If I'm honest DVD under microsoft is 'better' because the software players are fully functional and adhere to the standards of the DVD Consortium (these are not public and not available to linux developers). Slightly less CPU power is needed by Microsoft??? But DVD under linux is fully functional and like this region coding stupidity does not seem to be an issue for linux. The software is already good and it improoves all the time! If you want to do stuff with dvd/video processing then linux is worth trying cause there is a great deal of proffessional quality software out there for free! As for audio processing.... {penguin starts ranting about cool software - stay tuned} Chris From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Oct 21 21:56:47 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:26:47 +0930 Subject: About this Huw DVD Message-ID: Seems ALL new video players and dvd's in australia are standard with both NTSC AND PAL play back and multizone players are available. you'd think that a country like umerika would have this as well supposedly being the best of the best of the best and better than the rest. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Mather To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: Re: About this Huw DVD > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 05:43:37PM -0500, Arin Komins wrote: > => On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, John Majka wrote: > => > => :Subject: About this Huw DVD > => : > => :I know people have discussed this before on the list, but I don't seem to > => :recall seeing any concrete information... will this Huw DVD-R play on US > => :players? I am definitely interested if this is the case. > => :John Majka > => :jmajka2 at comcast.net > => > => Steve Litchfield said: > => > => In answer to the question yesterday, the Huw DVD is not region coded. So > => as long as your TV/PC equipment handles PAL video, the DVD will be fine. > => > => See http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/huwdvd.htm > => > => > => ....so, unless your setup handles PAL (which, by default in the US, it > => won't), then you won't be able to play it. > => > => You could get a video converter, though.... > > This doesn't make sense for digital video. Surely any half-decent > system is able to do the resolution and frame rate conversion on the > fly as part of the decoding process? Then it's just a matter of the > analogue output stage being able to generate a TV signal using the > appropriate sync and timings (just like computer video cards do when > you switch video modes). The AGP graphics card in a friend's PC has a > TV out that can switch between PAL and NTSC in software. Another > friend's $50 el cheapo DVD player has a menu option to switch between > PAL and NTSC. It's probably fairly standard across the board, so that > Tiawanese board shifters can build only one design for a world market > that can be configured by the end user, rather than having to build > multiple versions for the USA and European markets. One size fits all > is cheaper for them. > > Is the PAL requirement a red herring? > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Oct 21 23:38:39 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:08:39 +0930 Subject: HW xmas do Message-ID: What is the approx average price range we will be looking at for this night? I have to plan ahead as I will have to allow for nearly tripling what ever the rates are. Cheers :) From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Tue Oct 22 05:33:24 2002 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:33:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Ron Tree Message-ID: I have been 'out of touch' with the HW comings and goings for the last few years. What happened to Ron Tree ? I really enjoyed his contributions to HW, especially his energy on stage. His songwriting on Distant Horizons gave that album a much needed rock edge. Apologies to all if this is old ground, no doubt discussed in length while I was away :o( Cheers Neil. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Tue Oct 22 06:27:47 2002 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:27:47 +0100 Subject: HW: HW reference on 'Buzzcocks' Message-ID: For my sins, I was watching 'Never Mind the Buzzcocks' on BBC2 last night. (For those who haven't seen this show, it is a comedy pop quiz. One of the team captains is comedian Bill Bailey, who looks like a Klingon, complete with beard & shoulder length hair). About half way through last night's show, Bill said :- "Bloke came up to me last night, said 'ere - you were in Hawkwind'. He chased me all round Covent Garden going 'you were in Hawkwind'. " "Turns out I *was* in Hawkwind, after all." Apologies if the wording isn't 100% accurate, but you get the gist of it. (And no, it wasn't all that funny on the show either). Cheers Neil. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 22 09:47:29 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:47:29 +0100 Subject: HW: HW reference on 'Buzzcocks' In-Reply-To: Neil Shilladay's message of Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:27:47 +0100 Message-ID: Neil Shilladay writes: > For my sins, I was watching 'Never Mind the Buzzcocks' on BBC2 last night. > (For those who haven't seen this show, it is a comedy pop quiz. One of the > team captains is comedian Bill Bailey, who looks like a Klingon, complete > with beard & shoulder length hair). > > About half way through last night's show, Bill said :- > "Bloke came up to me last night, said 'ere - you were in Hawkwind'. He > chased me all round Covent Garden going 'you were in Hawkwind'. " > > > > "Turns out I *was* in Hawkwind, after all." Bailey has been rumoured to be a Hawkwind fan for years. Perhaps if someone corners him in the bar at an SF convention they can tirture it out of him with Star Trek quotes. FoFP From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 22 10:49:06 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:49:06 -0400 Subject: Ron Tree Message-ID: Last thing I know of was Inner City Hawks gig with Judge Trev last spring. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Shilladay" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:33 AM Subject: HW: Ron Tree > I have been 'out of touch' with the HW comings and goings for the last few > years. > What happened to Ron Tree ? > I really enjoyed his contributions to HW, especially his energy on stage. > His songwriting on Distant Horizons gave that album a much needed rock > edge. > > Apologies to all if this is old ground, no doubt discussed in length while > I was away :o( > > Cheers > Neil. > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of > the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group > unless otherwise specifically stated. > Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise > Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > message. > > If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in > error, please notify Microlise immediately. > > Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Tue Oct 22 11:03:27 2002 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:03:27 +0200 Subject: HW: Ron Tree Message-ID: SL responds... > Last thing I know of was Inner City Hawks gig with Judge Trev > last spring. 2001 or 2002 do you mean? > > I have been 'out of touch' with the HW comings and goings > > for the last few years. > > What happened to Ron Tree ? Um, isn't there a band called "Bajina" or something that Ron's part of, or perhaps 'fronts'? That's still an ongoing thing isn't it? Was/is Trev part of that too? (seems like maybe that's right?) With who else? I suppose if Trev's listening, then he could tell us what the deal is with Ron. Ron was also a guest at some of the X-HW gigs I believe. And he was never really fired from HW, so I suppose he just sort of drifted off on his own accord. Grakkl (FAA) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Oct 22 11:45:12 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:45:12 -0400 Subject: About this Huw DVD In-Reply-To: <001101c2796e$47d80ca0$3ccb223f@studio> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:26:47AM +0930, Michael Blackman wrote: => Seems ALL new video players and dvd's in australia are standard with both => NTSC AND PAL play back and multizone players are available. => => you'd think that a country like umerika would have this as well supposedly => being the best of the best of the best and better than the rest. I think the situation is the same in the USA, but I can't comment from personal experience as I don't own a DVD player. But, of people I know who have them, their DVD players seem to support both PAL and NTSC (changeable via a menu option), and there are lots of firmware hacks available that can disable/set the region of the player (not an issue with the Huw DVD as it is mastered to be region-free). The point I was trying to make is that I think the stated PAL requirement is a red herring, as any half-decent DVD playback system ought to be able to do the resolution/frame rate conversion on the fly to play on any type of TV. I would hate to think that someone would eschew buying the Huw DVD just because they thought, "but my TV is NTSC, not PAL, so it won't play..." I could well be wrong, though. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu Linux is for people who hate Windows. BSD is for people who love Unix. From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 12:50:57 2002 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:50:57 +0100 Subject: HW: HW reference on 'Buzzcocks' Message-ID: As noted before, the amusing thing about this story (which he also told in an interview with The Times a while back) is that Hawkwind List member Bill Bailey has often been mistaken electronically for the comedian himself.... Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Shilladay" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: HW: HW reference on 'Buzzcocks' > For my sins, I was watching 'Never Mind the Buzzcocks' on BBC2 last night. > (For those who haven't seen this show, it is a comedy pop quiz. One of the > team captains is comedian Bill Bailey, who looks like a Klingon, complete > with beard & shoulder length hair). > > About half way through last night's show, Bill said :- > "Bloke came up to me last night, said 'ere - you were in Hawkwind'. He > chased me all round Covent Garden going 'you were in Hawkwind'. " > > > > "Turns out I *was* in Hawkwind, after all." > > Apologies if the wording isn't 100% accurate, but you get the gist of it. > (And no, it wasn't all that funny on the show either). > > Cheers > Neil. > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of > the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group > unless otherwise specifically stated. > Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise > Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > message. > > If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in > error, please notify Microlise immediately. > > Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Oct 22 12:24:01 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:24:01 -0500 Subject: About this Huw DVD In-Reply-To: <20021022154512.GB10360@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Paul Mather wrote: :Subject: Re: About this Huw DVD : :I think the situation is the same in the USA, but I can't comment from :personal experience as I don't own a DVD player. But, of people I :know who have them, their DVD players seem to support both PAL and :NTSC (changeable via a menu option), and there are lots of firmware :hacks available that can disable/set the region of the player (not an :issue with the Huw DVD as it is mastered to be region-free). Most dvd players you will buy at a consumer outlet will not be region free. (I was burned this way on my first DVD player.) Many consumer players (noncomputer players...but retail settop models) have undocumented hacks (Sampo, for instance) to allow players to switch region. However, unless your TV supports PAL playback (such tvs used to be called "multisystem" tvs.) It could be that modern tvs support pal/secam/ntsc playback, but it didn't used to be. :The point I was trying to make is that I think the stated PAL :requirement is a red herring, as any half-decent DVD playback system :ought to be able to do the resolution/frame rate conversion on the fly :to play on any type of TV. I would hate to think that someone would :eschew buying the Huw DVD just because they thought, "but my TV is :NTSC, not PAL, so it won't play..." : :I could well be wrong, though. ...but I don't think it's the dvd player that cares, but the TV. but this is only as far as I know. Arin (back to lurking.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Oct 22 12:22:49 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:22:49 +0200 Subject: HW: Wembley gig Message-ID: Hi Is really noone able here to give us an exact track listing in the right order ? btw: did someone tape this gig ? Would be a shame if not Bernhard From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 13:56:33 2002 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:56:33 +0100 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: Hi Arin We could use a room too, please would you include us in your enquiries/organising - that makes 9 possible rooms towards a block booking. Besides the draw is really seeing Michael (B) in a frock! - Looking forward to meeting folk. Thanks Anna&Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: 21 October 2002 23:53 Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > : > > [snip] > > :Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid > :visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it soon. > > OK. I'm poking around, and it doesn't look like we'd be able to qualify > for group reservations. (most places seem to want a minimum > of 10 rooms reserved, and at last count, I've got only 7 rooms > requested (Alisa, me + Rich, FoFP, Mike Blackman, Nick Lee, Denis + > sister, Bernhard + Andreas + Rainer.)) > > (possible 8 with Eric S.) > > Any other interest? > > (...and would folks want only the night of the 13th?) > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 22 14:02:11 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:02:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Ron Tree Message-ID: The ICH gig was june 13th this year. The Bajina was last year at the Hawkfan fest in Hamburg. Not sure what date it was. Theres probably pictures from these on the Real Festival Music website. The ICH was released on video but I haven't had my copy transfered from PAL yet. Hope this of some help. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henderson Keith" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: Re: HW: Ron Tree > SL responds... > > > Last thing I know of was Inner City Hawks gig with Judge Trev > > last spring. > > 2001 or 2002 do you mean? > > > > I have been 'out of touch' with the HW comings and goings > > > for the last few years. > > > What happened to Ron Tree ? > > Um, isn't there a band called "Bajina" or something that Ron's part of, or > perhaps 'fronts'? That's still an ongoing thing isn't it? Was/is Trev part > of that too? (seems like maybe that's right?) With who else? I suppose if > Trev's listening, then he could tell us what the deal is with Ron. Ron was > also a guest at some of the X-HW gigs I believe. And he was never really > fired from HW, so I suppose he just sort of drifted off on his own accord. > > Grakkl (FAA) From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 14:28:18 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:28:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley gig In-Reply-To: <1841o0-0o5vPMC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: Hey Bernhard Eddie Jobson posted the set but cunningly used the word "included" which may have thrown some people, so, to confirm, the HW set was - Ejection Angels of Death Motorway City Hurry on Sundown Master of the Universe (w. Arthur Brown) Song of the Gremlin (w. Arthur Brown) The Watcher (Alans vocals cut in during this) Hassan I Sahba inc. Palestine ------------------------------ Silver Machine (w. Lemmy & Arthur Brown) Now if I only I could place those missing 2 Motorhead tracks.. AL --- Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > Hi > Is really noone able here to give us an exact track > listing in the right > order ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Oct 22 14:36:03 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:36:03 +0200 Subject: HW: Wembley gig In-Reply-To: <20021022182818.88163.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Alan !!! Bernhard At 19:28 22.10.2002 +0100, you wrote: >Hey Bernhard > >Eddie Jobson posted the set but cunningly used the >word "included" which may have thrown some people, so, >to confirm, the HW set was - > >Ejection >Angels of Death >Motorway City >Hurry on Sundown >Master of the Universe (w. Arthur Brown) >Song of the Gremlin (w. Arthur Brown) >The Watcher (Alans vocals cut in during this) >Hassan I Sahba inc. Palestine >------------------------------ >Silver Machine (w. Lemmy & Arthur Brown) > >Now if I only I could place those missing 2 Motorhead >tracks.. > >AL > > --- Bernhard Pospiech >wrote: > Hi >> Is really noone able here to give us an exact track >> listing in the right >> order ? > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Oct 22 14:40:34 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:40:34 -0400 Subject: Mountain Grill Message-ID: If anyone is interested in seeing what the Mountain Grill looks like these daze. Picture was taken 7/22/02. Send me a email off list and I'll send it to anyone interested. Cheers STEPHE From gg at NINJANET.COM Tue Oct 22 15:05:29 2002 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:05:29 +0200 Subject: Mountain Grill In-Reply-To: <001301c279fa$829da6b0$8eb53318@stepheandamy> Message-ID: stephe wrote: > If anyone is interested in seeing what the Mountain Grill looks like these daze. Picture was taken 7/22/02. Send me a email off list and I'll send it to anyone interested. Cheers STEPHE meeee tooo!! but, what is exactly the Moutain Grill?? thanks!!, gg ciao!! From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 15:27:38 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:27:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley gig Message-ID: Setlist: Ejection (instrumental version) Angels Of Death Motorway City Hurry On Sundown Master Of the Universe (with Arthur Brown) Song Of The Gremlin (with Arthur Brown) The Watcher (largely instrumental version) Assassins Of Allah/Space Is Their Silver Machine (with Lemmy) Band: Dave Brock, Alan Davey, Richard Chadwick, Huw Lloyd Langton, Tim Blake ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: HW: Wembley gig > Hi > > Is really noone able here to give us an exact track listing in the right > order ? > > > btw: > did someone tape this gig ? > Would be a shame if not > > > > Bernhard > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Oct 22 15:37:01 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:37:01 +0200 Subject: HW: Wembley gig In-Reply-To: <004701c27a01$15375920$883dfea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Thanks Colin ! At 20:27 22.10.2002 +0100, you wrote: >Setlist: >Ejection (instrumental version) >Angels Of Death >Motorway City >Hurry On Sundown >Master Of the Universe (with Arthur Brown) >Song Of The Gremlin (with Arthur Brown) >The Watcher (largely instrumental version) >Assassins Of Allah/Space Is Their >Silver Machine (with Lemmy) > >Band: Dave Brock, Alan Davey, Richard Chadwick, Huw Lloyd Langton, Tim Blake > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bernhard Pospiech" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:22 PM >Subject: HW: Wembley gig > > >> Hi >> >> Is really noone able here to give us an exact track listing in the right >> order ? >> >> >> btw: >> did someone tape this gig ? >> Would be a shame if not >> >> >> >> Bernhard >> > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Oct 22 15:41:57 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:41:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Wembley Message-ID: What can I say, most has already been said ;-) But here goes anyway This was a Heavy Full On Blanga Set from Start to finish. The Band decided to go at it like a Freight Train. Tracks: Ejection Angels of Death Motorway City Hurry on Sundown Master of the Universe Song of the Gremlin The Watcher Assasins of Allah Silver Machine Crew Members: Dave Brock Huw Lloyd Langton Alan Davey Richard Chadwick Tim Blake Arthur Brown (Vocals Master of the Universe+Song of the Gremlin, backing Vocals Silver machine) Lemmy - Bass/Vocal (Siver Machine) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ejection really started it the way they meant to go on, the heaviest I think I've ever heard the band, probably necessary with an audience constructed of 50% NU Metal Kids, and the rest of grizzled old Motorhead fans (with us handful of true believers ;-) Angels of Death followed with a very 'wall of sound' feel, I think the sound was very distorted at this point...but others might disagree!) Motorway City really shone, Huw was certainly having one of his in form gigs, and enjoying himself (though there did seem to be problems with his monitors being up to high through parts of the set) Hurry On Sundown, never fails to get me bouncing, it's as fresh as the day it was written (though I'd love to hear it acoustic sometime...broken record) A very Heavy storming Master of the Universe, which even with Arthur reading the lyrics off, left me reeling. Song of the Gremlin, how often do we ever hear that :-) What can I say about Arthur Brown!! He was a superb performer, a real showman. Lemmy might of started Motorheads set with 'we're going to f**k you up', but I think Arthur got there first :-) He truly is the God of Hellfire The Watcher was pretty much as played on recent dates, though as people have already said this was closer to an instrumental version, because Alans Vocals just weren't audible, he suffered from this through other parts of the set as well. Assassins of Allah, I think it's impossible for this song not to be a crowd pleaser, no change here. And then Back on after a little foot stomping, for Silver Machine: Lemmy looks larger than life, he always seems to fill the stage :-) A crowd already enjoying themselves muchly went wild. Have to say he looks his old self again. And yet again the sound guys blow it, the first few seconds the whole band was only on monitors, before the sound was switched back on. When it did come up, it was by far the best performance of SM I've seen in the gigs I've been to. Arthur was singing backing vocals, and Tim leapt up from his synths to join Arthur at his Mic. A fitting and great end to a fabulous 50 minutes. It's a shame not as many people made it down to Wembley, because you missed the heaviest Hawkwind set I can remember. I don't know what the NU Metal kids were expecting but they got well and truly Steamrollered Thanks to Kris and co. for the excellent firebreathing, it's always fabulous to see :-) Tim looked like he was having a wail of a time inserting keyboards when and where throughout the set, he looked like a Hippy(sorry Alisa couldn't resist) Island in a sea of Metal. The audience came away happy(more converts for the Church of Hawkwind), and it looked like the band did too (Mission Accomplished) So Roll on December!!! Wembley: What a rip off, the merchandise is all sold by Wembley personnel, at a huge markup. They seemed to be marking up a fiver on all the T Shirts. I saw Trev briefly and he looked like he was struggling to even get merchandise onto the stands. Some Festy T Shirts Eventually appeared, but at 20 quid each !!!!!! (Good job I already have 2 ;-) In fact the whole place was plain odd, like an aircraft hangar with bars around each side. Wouldn't ever be my first choice of venue, they seemed very strict about everything, far too commercialised, basically a money generation machine, without concern for the content...ugh (There are probably 2 audience recordings ;-) It was great to see everyone I managed to catch up with, Colin, Rob, and Nick, and hope to see you all again in December for Walthamstow(and wherever else I can drag myself to) I'll skip the support bands, since they weren't the reason I went ;-) (And we did skip Anthrax literally) Cheers Rich W(Dismayed at failing to buy a single CD after visiting 10 record shops..I must be losing it ;-) From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 15:49:09 2002 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 20:49:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley gig Message-ID: Hey Bernhard! You coming over for winter dates? Kris Please note that this electronic mail system is not intended to form any legal contract or binding agreement. This is for information purposes only. Please also note that this message should not be interpreted as any form of valid information. You use the information contained in this message at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: Wembley gig > Thanks Colin ! > > > > > At 20:27 22.10.2002 +0100, you wrote: > >Setlist: > >Ejection (instrumental version) > >Angels Of Death > >Motorway City > >Hurry On Sundown > >Master Of the Universe (with Arthur Brown) > >Song Of The Gremlin (with Arthur Brown) > >The Watcher (largely instrumental version) > >Assassins Of Allah/Space Is Their > >Silver Machine (with Lemmy) > > > >Band: Dave Brock, Alan Davey, Richard Chadwick, Huw Lloyd Langton, Tim Blake > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bernhard Pospiech" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 5:22 PM > >Subject: HW: Wembley gig > > > > > >> Hi > >> > >> Is really noone able here to give us an exact track listing in the right > >> order ? > >> > >> > >> btw: > >> did someone tape this gig ? > >> Would be a shame if not > >> > >> > >> > >> Bernhard > >> > > > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Oct 22 16:03:56 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:03:56 +0200 Subject: HW: Wembley gig In-Reply-To: <01aa01c27a04$1a749120$4112bd50@default> Message-ID: Hi Kris Hi Dave At 20:49 22.10.2002 +0100, you wrote: >Hey Bernhard! > >You coming over for winter dates? Yes, for the Walthamstow gig on 13.12.2002 Looking forward to meet you and the band and have a great time during the gig cheers Bernhard From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 22 17:14:50 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:14:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Ron Tree Message-ID: I believe he's alleged to be playing with Nik's lot at the Mean Fiddler, along with Jerry. Nicl ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephe lindas" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Ron Tree > The ICH gig was june 13th this year. The Bajina was last year at the Hawkfan > fest in Hamburg. Not sure what date it was. Theres probably pictures from > these on the Real Festival Music website. The ICH was released on video but > I haven't had my copy transfered from PAL yet. Hope this of some help. > Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Henderson Keith" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:03 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Ron Tree > > > > SL responds... > > > > > Last thing I know of was Inner City Hawks gig with Judge Trev > > > last spring. > > > > 2001 or 2002 do you mean? > > > > > > I have been 'out of touch' with the HW comings and goings > > > > for the last few years. > > > > What happened to Ron Tree ? > > > > Um, isn't there a band called "Bajina" or something that Ron's part of, or > > perhaps 'fronts'? That's still an ongoing thing isn't it? Was/is Trev > part > > of that too? (seems like maybe that's right?) With who else? I suppose > if > > Trev's listening, then he could tell us what the deal is with Ron. Ron > was > > also a guest at some of the X-HW gigs I believe. And he was never really > > fired from HW, so I suppose he just sort of drifted off on his own accord. > > > > Grakkl (FAA) From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Oct 22 17:27:45 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:27:45 -0500 Subject: HW: xmas stuff Message-ID: I'm starting to put in requests for group rates. I'll keep the list up to date with what I find out. Thx, Arin (btw, the original version of this post was rejected, since it started with OK. I am very amused at listserv ;-) ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 22 17:47:33 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 05:47:33 +0800 Subject: HW: Wembley gig Message-ID: Bernhard wrote: > did someone tape this gig ? > Would be a shame if not I hope so...for us out-of-towners :-) Bill From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Oct 22 22:26:22 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:56:22 +0930 Subject: About this Huw DVD Message-ID: Whats the TV got to do with it? I've never ever heard of a PAL only tv?? You simply plug your vid or dvd into any TV and watch. Off to nibble on some catnip fellas cheerio :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Mather To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:15 AM Subject: Re: About this Huw DVD > On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:26:47AM +0930, Michael Blackman wrote: > => Seems ALL new video players and dvd's in australia are standard with both > => NTSC AND PAL play back and multizone players are available. > => > => you'd think that a country like umerika would have this as well supposedly > => being the best of the best of the best and better than the rest. > > I think the situation is the same in the USA, but I can't comment from > personal experience as I don't own a DVD player. But, of people I > know who have them, their DVD players seem to support both PAL and > NTSC (changeable via a menu option), and there are lots of firmware > hacks available that can disable/set the region of the player (not an > issue with the Huw DVD as it is mastered to be region-free). > > The point I was trying to make is that I think the stated PAL > requirement is a red herring, as any half-decent DVD playback system > ought to be able to do the resolution/frame rate conversion on the fly > to play on any type of TV. I would hate to think that someone would > eschew buying the Huw DVD just because they thought, "but my TV is > NTSC, not PAL, so it won't play..." > > I could well be wrong, though. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > Linux is for people who hate Windows. BSD is for people who love Unix. > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Oct 22 22:27:55 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:57:55 +0930 Subject: HW: HW reference on 'Buzzcocks' Message-ID: I did that once. Only cause I'd never seen the comedian untill I got the channel four vid in the mail. Met the list member BB and hes a top bloke. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Abrahams To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:20 AM Subject: Re: HW: HW reference on 'Buzzcocks' > As noted before, the amusing thing about this story (which he also told in > an interview with The Times a while back) is that Hawkwind List member Bill > Bailey has often been mistaken electronically for the comedian himself.... > > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Shilladay" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:27 AM > Subject: HW: HW reference on 'Buzzcocks' > > > > For my sins, I was watching 'Never Mind the Buzzcocks' on BBC2 last night. > > (For those who haven't seen this show, it is a comedy pop quiz. One of the > > team captains is comedian Bill Bailey, who looks like a Klingon, complete > > with beard & shoulder length hair). > > > > About half way through last night's show, Bill said :- > > "Bloke came up to me last night, said 'ere - you were in Hawkwind'. He > > chased me all round Covent Garden going 'you were in Hawkwind'. " > > > > > > > > "Turns out I *was* in Hawkwind, after all." > > > > Apologies if the wording isn't 100% accurate, but you get the gist of it. > > (And no, it wasn't all that funny on the show either). > > > > Cheers > > Neil. > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - > > Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of > > the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group > > unless otherwise specifically stated. > > Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the > Microlise > > Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > > message. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in > > error, please notify Microlise immediately. > > > > Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Oct 22 22:32:51 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:02:51 +0930 Subject: About this Huw DVD Message-ID: PAL / NTSC are just different frame rate speeds, encoding etc - to put it very simply and basically without going into to much detail When you buy your dvd player pay a little extra for a multi zone player that also does ntsc/pal. Well worth it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:54 AM Subject: Re: About this Huw DVD > On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Paul Mather wrote: > > :Subject: Re: About this Huw DVD > : > :I think the situation is the same in the USA, but I can't comment from > :personal experience as I don't own a DVD player. But, of people I > :know who have them, their DVD players seem to support both PAL and > :NTSC (changeable via a menu option), and there are lots of firmware > :hacks available that can disable/set the region of the player (not an > :issue with the Huw DVD as it is mastered to be region-free). > > Most dvd players you will buy at a consumer outlet will not be region > free. (I was burned this way on my first DVD player.) > > Many consumer players (noncomputer players...but retail settop > models) have undocumented hacks (Sampo, for instance) to allow > players to switch region. > > However, unless your TV supports PAL playback (such tvs used to be called > "multisystem" tvs.) > > It could be that modern tvs support pal/secam/ntsc playback, but it didn't > used to be. > > :The point I was trying to make is that I think the stated PAL > :requirement is a red herring, as any half-decent DVD playback system > :ought to be able to do the resolution/frame rate conversion on the fly > :to play on any type of TV. I would hate to think that someone would > :eschew buying the Huw DVD just because they thought, "but my TV is > :NTSC, not PAL, so it won't play..." > : > :I could well be wrong, though. > > ...but I don't think it's the dvd player that cares, but the TV. > > but this is only as far as I know. > > Arin > (back to lurking.) > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Tue Oct 22 22:44:42 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:14:42 +0930 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: Hey hey Gary! and after saying I doubted very much I'd be going too.....- Funny how things turn around. How about Michael B in a leather nuns habit? LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: Cerberus To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:26 AM Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > Hi Arin > > We could use a room too, please would you include us in your > enquiries/organising - that makes 9 possible rooms towards a block booking. > Besides the draw is really seeing Michael (B) in a frock! - Looking forward > to meeting folk. > Thanks > Anna&Gary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arin Komins" > To: > Sent: 21 October 2002 23:53 > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > : > > > > [snip] > > > > :Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid > > :visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it soon. > > > > OK. I'm poking around, and it doesn't look like we'd be able to qualify > > for group reservations. (most places seem to want a minimum > > of 10 rooms reserved, and at last count, I've got only 7 rooms > > requested (Alisa, me + Rich, FoFP, Mike Blackman, Nick Lee, Denis + > > sister, Bernhard + Andreas + Rainer.)) > > > > (possible 8 with Eric S.) > > > > Any other interest? > > > > (...and would folks want only the night of the 13th?) > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > From waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Oct 22 23:54:59 2002 From: waesche1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Tom Waesche) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:54:59 -0500 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: Don't forget the stylish Roman helmet with the brush on top. Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. You can visit me here http://www.geocities.com/wishywaesche/index.html > [Original Message] > From: Michael Blackman > To: > Date: 10/22/02 10:14:42 PM > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > Hey hey Gary! and after saying I doubted very much I'd be going too.....- > > Funny how things turn around. How about Michael B in a leather nuns habit? > LOL > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cerberus > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:26 AM > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > Hi Arin > > > > We could use a room too, please would you include us in your > > enquiries/organising - that makes 9 possible rooms towards a block > booking. > > Besides the draw is really seeing Michael (B) in a frock! - Looking > forward > > to meeting folk. > > Thanks > > Anna&Gary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arin Komins" > > To: > > Sent: 21 October 2002 23:53 > > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: > > > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > : > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > :Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid > > > :visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it > soon. > > > > > > OK. I'm poking around, and it doesn't look like we'd be able to qualify > > > for group reservations. (most places seem to want a minimum > > > of 10 rooms reserved, and at last count, I've got only 7 rooms > > > requested (Alisa, me + Rich, FoFP, Mike Blackman, Nick Lee, Denis + > > > sister, Bernhard + Andreas + Rainer.)) > > > > > > (possible 8 with Eric S.) > > > > > > Any other interest? > > > > > > (...and would folks want only the night of the 13th?) > > > > > > Arin > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 23 00:01:02 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:31:02 +0930 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: The brush attachment keeps falling off. Something is wrong there ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Waesche To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > Don't forget the stylish Roman helmet with the brush on top. > > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good > with ketchup. > > You can visit me here > > http://www.geocities.com/wishywaesche/index.html > > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Michael Blackman > > To: > > Date: 10/22/02 10:14:42 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > Hey hey Gary! and after saying I doubted very much I'd be going too.....- > > > > Funny how things turn around. How about Michael B in a leather nuns > habit? > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Cerberus > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:26 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > > > > Hi Arin > > > > > > We could use a room too, please would you include us in your > > > enquiries/organising - that makes 9 possible rooms towards a block > > booking. > > > Besides the draw is really seeing Michael (B) in a frock! - Looking > > forward > > > to meeting folk. > > > Thanks > > > Anna&Gary > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Arin Komins" > > > To: > > > Sent: 21 October 2002 23:53 > > > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: > > > > > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > : > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > :Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid > > > > :visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it > > soon. > > > > > > > > OK. I'm poking around, and it doesn't look like we'd be able to > qualify > > > > for group reservations. (most places seem to want a minimum > > > > of 10 rooms reserved, and at last count, I've got only 7 rooms > > > > requested (Alisa, me + Rich, FoFP, Mike Blackman, Nick Lee, Denis + > > > > sister, Bernhard + Andreas + Rainer.)) > > > > > > > > (possible 8 with Eric S.) > > > > > > > > Any other interest? > > > > > > > > (...and would folks want only the night of the 13th?) > > > > > > > > Arin > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 05:05:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:05:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Huw DVD/PAL Message-ID: Just to put this question to rest: As I understand it (and I'm kind of in the industry), US people can still buy the DVD and play it on their PCs, without problem. Their DVD players should also cope OK. Their televisions will be expecting NTSC resolution pictures and colour, though, so unless they have a TV capable of auto-switching to the PAL standard, then this last bit won't work. Does that help? Thought not 8-)) ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield 3-Lib, for conversion of VHS or 8mm video material onto DVD General video capturing & DVD authoring knowhow and reviews http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/dvd From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 23 06:32:20 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:02:20 +0930 Subject: HW: Huw DVD/PAL Message-ID: Wow. I didn't realise the television actualy gave a hoot whether it was ntsc or pal playback. I have a vid & a dvd machine that I play both ntsc & pal on the same tele and its never been an issue. The tv is nearly ten years old. Have also used the same set up on my moms ultra modern large screen televisions (she has two) and its never been an issue either. It was always my understanding that it was only an issue with the actual players themselves. But I will concede that it is very possible that I am possibly wrong. That is possibly a good possibility, yes....perhaps 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Litchfield To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:35 PM Subject: HW: Huw DVD/PAL > Just to put this question to rest: As I understand it (and I'm kind of in > the industry), US people can still buy the DVD and play it on their PCs, > without problem. Their DVD players should also cope OK. Their televisions > will be expecting NTSC resolution pictures and colour, though, so unless > they have a TV capable of auto-switching to the PAL standard, then this > last bit won't work. > > Does that help? Thought not 8-)) > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > 3-Lib, for conversion of VHS or 8mm video material onto DVD > General video capturing & DVD authoring knowhow and reviews > http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/dvd From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 11:18:47 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:18:47 -0400 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:20:19 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?= wrote: >My ears are still ringing too. > >Motorhead set list for those interested - > >We Are Motorhead >No Class >Shoot You In The Back >Civil War >God Save The Queen >Brave New World >Metropolis >Love For Sale (I think) >Dr Rock >Ramones >Shut Your Mouth > That was 'Nothing Up My Sleeve' was it not? Nick From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Wed Oct 23 12:03:16 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:03:16 -0500 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: Dare I ask if anyone has any tapes of the Wembley show? John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net What can I say, most has already been said ;-) But here goes anyway This was a Heavy Full On Blanga Set from Start to finish. The Band decided to go at it like a Freight Train. Tracks: Ejection Angels of Death Motorway City Hurry on Sundown Master of the Universe Song of the Gremlin The Watcher Assasins of Allah Silver Machine Crew Members: Dave Brock Huw Lloyd Langton Alan Davey Richard Chadwick Tim Blake Arthur Brown (Vocals Master of the Universe+Song of the Gremlin, backing Vocals Silver machine) Lemmy - Bass/Vocal (Siver Machine) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ejection really started it the way they meant to go on, the heaviest I think I've ever heard the band, probably necessary with an audience constructed of 50% NU Metal Kids, and the rest of grizzled old Motorhead fans (with us handful of true believers ;-) Angels of Death followed with a very 'wall of sound' feel, I think the sound was very distorted at this point...but others might disagree!) Motorway City really shone, Huw was certainly having one of his in form gigs, and enjoying himself (though there did seem to be problems with his monitors being up to high through parts of the set) Hurry On Sundown, never fails to get me bouncing, it's as fresh as the day it was written (though I'd love to hear it acoustic sometime...broken record) A very Heavy storming Master of the Universe, which even with Arthur reading the lyrics off, left me reeling. Song of the Gremlin, how often do we ever hear that :-) What can I say about Arthur Brown!! He was a superb performer, a real showman. Lemmy might of started Motorheads set with 'we're going to f**k you up', but I think Arthur got there first :-) He truly is the God of Hellfire The Watcher was pretty much as played on recent dates, though as people have already said this was closer to an instrumental version, because Alans Vocals just weren't audible, he suffered from this through other parts of the set as well. Assassins of Allah, I think it's impossible for this song not to be a crowd pleaser, no change here. And then Back on after a little foot stomping, for Silver Machine: Lemmy looks larger than life, he always seems to fill the stage :-) A crowd already enjoying themselves muchly went wild. Have to say he looks his old self again. And yet again the sound guys blow it, the first few seconds the whole band was only on monitors, before the sound was switched back on. When it did come up, it was by far the best performance of SM I've seen in the gigs I've been to. Arthur was singing backing vocals, and Tim leapt up from his synths to join Arthur at his Mic. A fitting and great end to a fabulous 50 minutes. It's a shame not as many people made it down to Wembley, because you missed the heaviest Hawkwind set I can remember. I don't know what the NU Metal kids were expecting but they got well and truly Steamrollered Thanks to Kris and co. for the excellent firebreathing, it's always fabulous to see :-) Tim looked like he was having a wail of a time inserting keyboards when and where throughout the set, he looked like a Hippy(sorry Alisa couldn't resist) Island in a sea of Metal. The audience came away happy(more converts for the Church of Hawkwind), and it looked like the band did too (Mission Accomplished) So Roll on December!!! Wembley: What a rip off, the merchandise is all sold by Wembley personnel, at a huge markup. They seemed to be marking up a fiver on all the T Shirts. I saw Trev briefly and he looked like he was struggling to even get merchandise onto the stands. Some Festy T Shirts Eventually appeared, but at 20 quid each !!!!!! (Good job I already have 2 ;-) In fact the whole place was plain odd, like an aircraft hangar with bars around each side. Wouldn't ever be my first choice of venue, they seemed very strict about everything, far too commercialised, basically a money generation machine, without concern for the content...ugh (There are probably 2 audience recordings ;-) It was great to see everyone I managed to catch up with, Colin, Rob, and Nick, and hope to see you all again in December for Walthamstow(and wherever else I can drag myself to) I'll skip the support bands, since they weren't the reason I went ;-) (And we did skip Anthrax literally) Cheers Rich W(Dismayed at failing to buy a single CD after visiting 10 record shops..I must be losing it ;-) From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Wed Oct 23 12:07:02 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:07:02 -0500 Subject: About this Huw DVD Message-ID: well, having checked my manual for my DVD player (which is not a "regionless" player), I have found that it automatically converts appropriately to play both PAL and NTSC formats. There seems some confusion between "region" and "format" in our discussions. Even though a disc may be regionless or encoded for a specific region, it will still ALSO be encoded for either PAL or NTSC, and so whether the player is regionless or not does not necessarily equate into playability. John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net > PAL / NTSC are just different frame rate speeds, encoding etc - to put it > very simply and basically without going into to much detail > > When you buy your dvd player pay a little extra for a multi zone player that > also does ntsc/pal. Well worth it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Arin Komins > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:54 AM > Subject: Re: About this Huw DVD > > > > On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Paul Mather wrote: > > > > :Subject: Re: About this Huw DVD > > : > > :I think the situation is the same in the USA, but I can't comment from > > :personal experience as I don't own a DVD player. But, of people I > > :know who have them, their DVD players seem to support both PAL and > > :NTSC (changeable via a menu option), and there are lots of firmware > > :hacks available that can disable/set the region of the player (not an > > :issue with the Huw DVD as it is mastered to be region-free). > > > > Most dvd players you will buy at a consumer outlet will not be region > > free. (I was burned this way on my first DVD player.) > > > > Many consumer players (noncomputer players...but retail settop > > models) have undocumented hacks (Sampo, for instance) to allow > > players to switch region. > > > > However, unless your TV supports PAL playback (such tvs used to be called > > "multisystem" tvs.) > > > > It could be that modern tvs support pal/secam/ntsc playback, but it didn't > > used to be. > > > > :The point I was trying to make is that I think the stated PAL > > :requirement is a red herring, as any half-decent DVD playback system > > :ought to be able to do the resolution/frame rate conversion on the fly > > :to play on any type of TV. I would hate to think that someone would > > :eschew buying the Huw DVD just because they thought, "but my TV is > > :NTSC, not PAL, so it won't play..." > > : > > :I could well be wrong, though. > > > > ...but I don't think it's the dvd player that cares, but the TV. > > > > but this is only as far as I know. > > > > Arin > > (back to lurking.) > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Oct 23 12:17:44 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Wombat Jig) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:17:44 -0400 Subject: HW: Wembley gig Message-ID: Based on the descriptions of the heavy metal wall of sound, the tracklist, the crewmembers, and Lemmy guesting on Silver Machine, this sounds a whole lot like the Reading Festival 86 show available on the Friday Rock Show Sessions disc - can anyone who was there agree/disagree with this? Stephan From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Oct 23 12:40:14 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:40:14 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: > >Shut Your Mouth > > > > That was 'Nothing Up My Sleeve' was it not? > > Nick > 'Going To Brazil' ? Nick From cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 14:51:35 2002 From: cerberus at AVON666.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Cerberus) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:51:35 +0100 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: > Hey hey Gary! and after saying I doubted very much I'd be going too.....- > > Funny how things turn around. How about Michael B in a leather nuns habit? Certainly will be great to see you Michael. Assume you will be wearing"long" for the evening?.... GARY & ANNA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Blackman" To: Sent: 23 October 2002 03:44 Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > Hey hey Gary! and after saying I doubted very much I'd be going too.....- > > Funny how things turn around. How about Michael B in a leather nuns habit? > LOL > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cerberus > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:26 AM > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > Hi Arin > > > > We could use a room too, please would you include us in your > > enquiries/organising - that makes 9 possible rooms towards a block > booking. > > Besides the draw is really seeing Michael (B) in a frock! - Looking > forward > > to meeting folk. > > Thanks > > Anna&Gary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arin Komins" > > To: > > Sent: 21 October 2002 23:53 > > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: > > > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > : > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > :Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid > > > :visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it > soon. > > > > > > OK. I'm poking around, and it doesn't look like we'd be able to qualify > > > for group reservations. (most places seem to want a minimum > > > of 10 rooms reserved, and at last count, I've got only 7 rooms > > > requested (Alisa, me + Rich, FoFP, Mike Blackman, Nick Lee, Denis + > > > sister, Bernhard + Andreas + Rainer.)) > > > > > > (possible 8 with Eric S.) > > > > > > Any other interest? > > > > > > (...and would folks want only the night of the 13th?) > > > > > > Arin > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 14:51:18 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:51:18 +0100 Subject: Wembley Motorhead set In-Reply-To: <200210231518.LAA29567@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Nick YEEESSS!! That was it, all I could remember at the time was the "Watch out watch out" bit in the chorus, or at least I think that's what I can remember hearing, or thinking, er, yeah, whatever...it was quite loud folks. Anyway, cheers! Remind me which album it's on somebody please. Going to Brazil was played later in the set as i listed. So that just leaves the brief bit Lemmy did on his own prior to one of the other numbers - I recognised it, but just can't place it. AL --- Nick Medford wrote: > > >Shut Your Mouth > > > > That was 'Nothing Up My Sleeve' was it not? > > Nick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From gg at NINJANET.COM Wed Oct 23 16:14:07 2002 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:14:07 +0200 Subject: Wembley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kirsten wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Pierluigi Fumi wrote: >> well, in this tour i see there is a song called "Just 'Cos You Got The >> Power", but there's not in any MH's album, it is only an old single >> song never republicated. > :( They certainly didn;t play that at Wembley, I really like that song oh, it's terrible! they began to play that song in march 2001: I see motorhead in june 2001 here in Italy and in agoust 2001 in Wacken and they played it. Also in the latest tour (june 2002) they played it... strange, very strage! ciao!, gg From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 16:32:18 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:32:18 +0100 Subject: Wembley Motorhead set In-Reply-To: <20021023185118.66736.qmail@web14811.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In message <20021023185118.66736.qmail at web14811.mail.yahoo.co m>, Alan Linsley writes > Remind me which >album it's on somebody please. Orgasmotron. -- Nick Medford From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 23 17:23:39 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:53:39 +0930 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: I'll be in my traditional back jeans, a hawkwind shirt and high heels. LoL. Ok hiheal sneakers..... ok just sneakers. The sneaky buggers at the Areoflot airlines told me I'd be departing on the 16th od December to return home - then I got the itinerary and they have an apology - they tried but the 24th was the best they could do. Can anyone recomend an ultra cheap form of accomadation. I'll stay in a caravan park or a backpackers or anything. Of course I am going to suss out the net for this - but if anyone has any helpful info and can save me the hideous fate of searching millions of websites it would be much appreciated. One other thing. If anyone is organising a car pool between the various gigs yet to be announced let me know - I am quite a thin chap so shouldn't take up too much space. Cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: Cerberus To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:21 AM Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > Hey hey Gary! and after saying I doubted very much I'd be going too.....- > > > > Funny how things turn around. How about Michael B in a leather nuns > habit? > > > Certainly will be great to see you Michael. Assume you will be > wearing"long" for the evening?.... > > GARY & ANNA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Blackman" > To: > Sent: 23 October 2002 03:44 > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > Hey hey Gary! and after saying I doubted very much I'd be going too.....- > > > > Funny how things turn around. How about Michael B in a leather nuns > habit? > > LOL > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Cerberus > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:26 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > > > > Hi Arin > > > > > > We could use a room too, please would you include us in your > > > enquiries/organising - that makes 9 possible rooms towards a block > > booking. > > > Besides the draw is really seeing Michael (B) in a frock! - Looking > > forward > > > to meeting folk. > > > Thanks > > > Anna&Gary > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Arin Komins" > > > To: > > > Sent: 21 October 2002 23:53 > > > Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Arin Komins wrote: > > > > > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: XMAS party > > > > : > > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > :Will be getting around to it shortly, Mike. Between work and stupid > > > > :visa annoyances, I've not had a lot of free time.....will get to it > > soon. > > > > > > > > OK. I'm poking around, and it doesn't look like we'd be able to > qualify > > > > for group reservations. (most places seem to want a minimum > > > > of 10 rooms reserved, and at last count, I've got only 7 rooms > > > > requested (Alisa, me + Rich, FoFP, Mike Blackman, Nick Lee, Denis + > > > > sister, Bernhard + Andreas + Rainer.)) > > > > > > > > (possible 8 with Eric S.) > > > > > > > > Any other interest? > > > > > > > > (...and would folks want only the night of the 13th?) > > > > > > > > Arin > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 23 17:28:46 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:58:46 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay Message-ID: A cd copy of QSC just sold for 55 pounds on ebay. Thats nearly $150AU Not bad hey? :-) From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Oct 23 17:36:18 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich.warren) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:36:18 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay Message-ID: Damn and I only sold mine for 25 ;-) Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay A cd copy of QSC just sold for 55 pounds on ebay. Thats nearly $150AU Not bad hey? :-) From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 23 18:22:16 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 07:52:16 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay Message-ID: I wasn't the one who paid 55 pounds. I was just impressed at the amount of money being generated by second hand Hawkwind gear. I believe WoTeOt sells easily for that much or more as well. It would make ya think you shoulda bought ten copies back when they were new at regular prices. Very impressive. ----- Original Message ----- From: rich.warren To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay > Damn and I only sold mine for 25 ;-) > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Blackman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:28 PM > Subject: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay > > > A cd copy of QSC just sold for 55 pounds on ebay. Thats nearly $150AU > > Not bad hey? :-) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Oct 23 18:44:49 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:44:49 EDT Subject: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/02 2:31:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > A cd copy of QSC just sold for 55 pounds on ebay. Thats nearly $150AU > > Not bad hey? :-) Well then why did mine only fetch $20US???? Chuck From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 23 18:58:38 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:28:38 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay Message-ID: Bummer - I should have made an offer. I would have gone as far as $40 us ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Rosenberg To: Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:14 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay > In a message dated 10/23/02 2:31:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > > > A cd copy of QSC just sold for 55 pounds on ebay. Thats nearly $150AU > > > > Not bad hey? :-) > > Well then why did mine only fetch $20US???? > > Chuck From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 23 20:43:13 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:13:13 +0930 Subject: XMAS party - gig poster Message-ID: Very nice. I've got the original poster (framed) but this one with the concert details on it will compliment it very nicely. Especially being signed by the artist!! Any idea on what the cost will be so I can foreplan? und What are the odds of getting a band signing as well? Cheers Michael B From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 23 22:28:33 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:58:33 +0930 Subject: derrrrrrrrrrr Message-ID: Disregard my last post about QSC selling for 55 pounds - I read it wrong - it was $58AU derrrrrrrr From coral at APORT.RU Thu Oct 24 05:20:27 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:20:27 +0400 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: Hi, > One other thing. If anyone is organising a car pool between the various > gigs yet to be announced let me know - I am quite a thin chap so shouldn't > take up too much space. Yes, I also would be interested... Alisa From gg at NINJANET.COM Wed Oct 23 16:33:25 2002 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:33:25 +0200 Subject: HW: Wembley In-Reply-To: <20021021192023.59141.qmail@web14804.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Alan wrote: > From your description I think this must have been You > Better Run, which is from the March Or Die album (the > one with Cat Scratch Fever, and I Ain't No Nice Guy > with Ozzy) the one written with Ozzy in "March Or Die" is Hellraiser, I think on the "Bark At The Moon" album, but I'm not too sure. ciao!, gg From gg at NINJANET.COM Wed Oct 23 16:38:24 2002 From: gg at NINJANET.COM (Pierluigi Fumi) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:38:24 +0200 Subject: HW: Wembley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nick wrote: > Well, it might be, I haven't heard that album. It started with a section > where Lemmy was alone onstage, singing along with his bass in a bluesy > kind of way, if that helps. Quite effective, wouldn't have minded more of > that. you know, in the last **great** concert (25th Anniversary and Wacken2001) he made a little solo with his bass singing something like a blues, but it's not an intro. Or better, he used it as intro for "You Better Run" at the 25th anniversary an for ... uhmm ... another song that now I can't remember for Wacken. > In answer to some other posts, yes they did play R.A.M.O.N.E.S (which > was good), and no they didn't play 'Just Cos You Got the Power' which > is indeed a corker. oh, thanks a lot. In fact, it sounded strange that they did not play RAMONES: even Lemmy and Phil Cambpell were very good friends with Joey and Dee Dee... ciao!, gg From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 24 08:14:09 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:14:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Huw DVD/PAL Message-ID: Both the tv and the DVD player definitely matter. I have seen my US region DVDs fail on my friends brand new widescreen tv. The DVD player was multi- region which means that the widescreen tv couldn't hack the NTSC signal. There was no setting for NTSC on the on-screen menu of the tv, only PAL. The picture comes out kind of black and white. I can't quite remember how I did it but I think one way round it is route the signal through a video player using the SCART lead. I assume the video player has to be able to take an NTSC signal and will convert it to PAL for the tv. Alastair. On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:02:20 +0930, Michael Blackman wrote: >Wow. I didn't realise the television actualy gave a hoot whether it was >ntsc or pal playback. I have a vid & a dvd machine that I play both ntsc & >pal on the same tele and its never been an issue. The tv is nearly ten >years old. Have also used the same set up on my moms ultra modern large >screen televisions (she has two) and its never been an issue either. > >It was always my understanding that it was only an issue with the actual >players themselves. But I will concede that it is very possible that I am >possibly wrong. >That is possibly a good possibility, yes....perhaps 8>) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Steve Litchfield >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 6:35 PM >Subject: HW: Huw DVD/PAL > > >> Just to put this question to rest: As I understand it (and I'm kind of in >> the industry), US people can still buy the DVD and play it on their PCs, >> without problem. Their DVD players should also cope OK. Their televisions >> will be expecting NTSC resolution pictures and colour, though, so unless >> they have a TV capable of auto-switching to the PAL standard, then this >> last bit won't work. >> >> Does that help? Thought not 8-)) >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> Steve Litchfield >> 3-Lib, for conversion of VHS or 8mm video material onto DVD >> General video capturing & DVD authoring knowhow and reviews >> http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/dvd From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 24 11:01:26 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev (Judge)) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:01:26 +0000 Subject: HW: Ron Tree Message-ID: Hallo Neil, You can find out about Ron Tree, Judge Trev, and ICH! at Real Festival Music http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk There's gonna be a big explosion of activity next year - watch out! Trev >I have been 'out of touch' with the HW comings and goings for the last few >years. >What happened to Ron Tree ? > I really enjoyed his contributions to HW, especially his energy on stage. >His songwriting on Distant Horizons gave that album a much needed rock >edge. > >Apologies to all if this is old ground, no doubt discussed in length while >I was away :o( > >Cheers >Neil. > > > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of >the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group >unless otherwise specifically stated. >Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise >Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this >message. > >If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in >error, please notify Microlise immediately. > >Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From Jason.Scruton at DFA.STATE.NY.US Thu Oct 24 11:02:56 2002 From: Jason.Scruton at DFA.STATE.NY.US (Scruton, Jason) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:02:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. Message-ID: 3oc and the Danny Miranda Experience were given a warm, nostalgic review in the local "alternative news mag" GLad to see that "See You IN Black" is back (wince) in the set. Rondinelli is described by the reviewer as a "meat fisted assault" during "the Reaper", and "more than once Bloom had to signal him to ease off." Surpised, too, to see This aint the summer of love was in the set. I didnt go because i reallly really disliked the idea of supporting BOC"s opening act, Antigone Rising, by paying for a ticket. Saw that band open for Joan Jett and they ugh..... i won't continue. Is the list split/fractured/apathetic about the sound on Long Days Night? I've listened to it more (yay headphones at work) and it sounds a lot like most live albums of late. Almost too well miked, too well mixed. and Shiny. Dinnae get me wrong, i wasnt expecting a frenetic aural assault like OYFOYK. The sound is somewhere near the weird emptiness between songs on ETL (Though i love the robot voice intro "this is a song from our agents of fortune album" and a bit of the spark or verve on SEE. Dance on Stilts is a good song for the band because the Drummer actually took part in the song's recording. I think that makes a huge difference. Song selection wise, I like the disc for having songs from CotHM,ninja (seriously, who woulda thunk you'd hear a song from THAT??) and Forbid. Not to mention Quicklime Girl. I dont think Rondinelli gets the vibe of the tune so he beats living and dead horses on his drum fills, but Buck's note for note revisiting of his most angular solo on vinyl is worth it. Also, never knew that Allan Lanier soloed in LAst Days of May until I saw the Dvd. He is good. Did anyone else note on the DVD how the tour passes are Homer holding the BOC medallion? Great.I have "Let Go" stuck in my head. that's the last time i try to be clever with the subject line. Be happy with what you have to be happy with! Jason From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 24 11:37:56 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:37:56 EDT Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: <6258238B31F8F041AEA921331091F0A6020FD6E8@EXCHSEN0A1MD> Message-ID: On 24 Oct 2002, at 11:02, Scruton, Jason wrote: > Rondinelli is described by the reviewer as a "meat fisted assault" > during "the Reaper", and "more than once Bloom had to signal him to > ease off." Hmm...anyone really believe this? I've seen the band with BR on drums many times, and he always overplays, and nobody has ever told him to ease off. I doubt he'd listen if they did! Surpised, too, to see This aint the summer of love was in > the set. They play this once every 5 gigs or so. Not a big surprise.. > I didnt go because i reallly really disliked the idea of supporting > BOC"s opening act, Antigone Rising, by paying for a ticket. Saw that > band open for Joan Jett and they ugh..... i won't continue. > Right, like they got more than 200 bucks for the gig... Not to mention Quicklime > Girl. I dont think Rondinelli gets the vibe of the tune so he beats > living and dead horses on his drum fills, but Buck's note for note > revisiting of his most angular solo on vinyl is worth it. finally, we agree on something! A perfect rendition of a perfect solo... Also, > never knew that Allan Lanier soloed in LAst Days of May until I saw > the Dvd. He is good. > Huh? I've always thought AL's solos were embarassing. And, with a guitarist like BD in the band, why would anyone else even want to try and solo? Although AL's lead on Harvest Moon ain't half bad, what's the point, except to set up BD's second part? > Be happy with what you have to be happy with! I am pretty much happy with LDN. Sound is crisp, song selection okay [but only becasue Telepaths made it to the DVD]. Wish they'd tossed in SYiB instead of another BfY... theo From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Oct 24 12:12:34 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:12:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. Message-ID: Heh. >Hmm...anyone really believe this? I've seen the band with BR on >drums many times, and he always overplays, and nobody has ever >told him to ease off. I doubt he'd listen if they did! Because he plays so loudly it drowns out all other sounds? :) >> BOC"s opening act, Antigone Rising, by paying for a ticket. Saw that >> band open for Joan Jett and they ugh..... i won't continue. >Right, like they got more than 200 bucks for the gig... That maty be the case. But I'll be happier when they disband. I really dislike what 'they try to do'. Speaking of last days of May, I dont know if their setlists need to have two guitar solo vehicles (long ones) like Bucks Boogie n' LdoM. But the DVD is neat nonetheless-- tracklist represnts every album except Imaginos and the Revolution by night. that's pretty good. But who needs BOC to do Imaginos-ish tunes when you can see and hear the Brain surgeons? i would never have thought "Siege and Investiture" could be pulled off with only 3 musicians 'till they did it (twice!!!!!). >> Be happy with what you have to be happy with! > >okay [but only becasue Telepaths made it to the DVD]. Wish >they'd tossed in SYiB instead of another BfY... BfY has to catch up to the number of official versions of Reaper so there can be a two disc best of the two songs :) Dances on pockets of perfect water stilts, Jason From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Oct 24 13:34:07 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:34:07 -0500 Subject: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: <6258238B31F8F041AEA921331091F0A6020FD6E8@EXCHSEN0A1MD> Message-ID: well... In regards to the sound quality of the CD I must apologies as my portable was set with the bass boost when I listened.. Durr. Sounds much better without. Now on to the "Albany" (Clifton Park) concert. No Bucks Boogie!?! Very strange. No set lists as I warned but the band was very tight. I was standing four people away from the stage and enjoyed seeing the band so close. Closest I have ever been except for one SWB show in SF but that was so long ago I really don't remember it that well.. LOL Great show and performances. Eric's voice sounded great and Allan's guitar solo during Last Days of May was great. Buck just gets better every year I see him. Must be an age thing. Allan and Eric were playing a beautiful blue guitar (not at the same time of course) with a great airbrush painting of the BOC Cross with the reaper standing in front of it. Sorry I don't know brand types by sight. Buck played a lot of stuff on a headless guitar as well as a white guitar with divots in it looking almost like Swiss cheese. I noticed also that Allan closes his eyes when he does the intro to Joan Crawford. Dominance - Submission yea that too. Godzilla/Reaper of course. Lips in the Hills as one of the encores was an interesting choice which I very much enjoyed. New stuff was Perfect Water, See you in Black and Pockets. The mix was decent for Northern Lights but the keyboards were too low as usual. The opening act was Antigone Rising which is an all girl band that doesn't seem sure of it's identity. Sometimes they sounded like Cheryl Crow and sometimes like Janis. They had a fantastic wind player that really put a prog spin on one of the instrumentals they played but overall it was a snoozefest for me. They started at 9 so the boys didn't go on until 11. Probably why we didn't get a Bucks Boogie. Thanks for playing read the meandering review game. Out. Mike ________________________________ Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. -- Ronald Reagan -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Scruton, Jason Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:03 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. 3oc and the Danny Miranda Experience were given a warm, nostalgic review in the local "alternative news mag" GLad to see that "See You IN Black" is back (wince) in the set. Rondinelli is described by the reviewer as a "meat fisted assault" during "the Reaper", and "more than once Bloom had to signal him to ease off." Surpised, too, to see This aint the summer of love was in the set. I didnt go because i reallly really disliked the idea of supporting BOC"s opening act, Antigone Rising, by paying for a ticket. Saw that band open for Joan Jett and they ugh..... i won't continue. Is the list split/fractured/apathetic about the sound on Long Days Night? I've listened to it more (yay headphones at work) and it sounds a lot like most live albums of late. Almost too well miked, too well mixed. and Shiny. Dinnae get me wrong, i wasnt expecting a frenetic aural assault like OYFOYK. The sound is somewhere near the weird emptiness between songs on ETL (Though i love the robot voice intro "this is a song from our agents of fortune album" and a bit of the spark or verve on SEE. Dance on Stilts is a good song for the band because the Drummer actually took part in the song's recording. I think that makes a huge difference. Song selection wise, I like the disc for having songs from CotHM,ninja (seriously, who woulda thunk you'd hear a song from THAT??) and Forbid. Not to mention Quicklime Girl. I dont think Rondinelli gets the vibe of the tune so he beats living and dead horses on his drum fills, but Buck's note for note revisiting of his most angular solo on vinyl is worth it. Also, never knew that Allan Lanier soloed in LAst Days of May until I saw the Dvd. He is good. Did anyone else note on the DVD how the tour passes are Homer holding the BOC medallion? Great.I have "Let Go" stuck in my head. that's the last time i try to be clever with the subject line. Be happy with what you have to be happy with! Jason From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Oct 24 13:05:37 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:05:37 -0400 Subject: HW: XMAS party In-Reply-To: <000b01c27b3e$98b60650$f0fa2ed4@ghostwheel3>; from coral@APORT.RU on Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:20:27PM +0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:20:27PM +0400, Alisa wrote: > > One other thing. If anyone is organising a car pool between the various > > gigs yet to be announced let me know - I am quite a thin chap so shouldn't > > take up too much space. > > Yes, I also would be interested... Does this mean there *are* other gigs? I'm not rich enough to fly over for every one-off show that comes along, but if it turns into a mini-tour, I'm there! I'm anxiously awaiting news in time to book flight, vacation time, etc. But we've been told to treat MC as authoritative, and there's nothing listed there yet but Walthamstow; but people are talking about other shows, car pools, etc. So ... does anyone know what the &$*! is going on? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The acronym for "the powers that be" differs by only one letter from that for "the pointy-haired boss". From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 24 13:05:10 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:05:10 EDT Subject: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 24 Oct 2002, at 12:34, Mike Montfort wrote: >> Now on to the "Albany" (Clifton Park) concert. No Bucks Boogie!?! > Very strange. > > No set lists as I warned but the band was very tight. I was standing > four people away from the stage and enjoyed seeing the band so close. > Closest I have ever been except for one SWB show in SF but that was so > long ago I really don't remember it that well.. LOL > Generally, the sound is better back by the board at a B?C show. But you want to see what bD's up to! Allan and Eric were > playing a beautiful blue guitar (not at the same time of course) with > a great airbrush painting of the BOC Cross with the reaper standing in > front of it. Sorry I don't know brand types by sight. > That would be an Eric bloom model by Harper. EB has a couple of them. AL usually plays Fenders, a Lone Star Strat, or, lately, a 52 reissue Tele... > Buck played a lot of stuff on a headless guitar as well as a white > guitar with divots in it looking almost like Swiss cheese. Uh, the white one is headless too, a 'cheeseburger' Steinberger. BD's choice for many years now... I noticed > also that Allan closes his eyes when he does the intro to Joan > Crawford. Ah, that explains it! Dominance - Submission yea that too. Godzilla/Reaper of > course. Lips in the Hills as one of the encores was an interesting > choice which I very much enjoyed. Not usually an encore, so yeah! Not always in the set list, but it does appear from time to time, kind of like Teen Archer. Did they do that one? New stuff was Perfect Water, See > you in Black and Pockets. > Glad SYiB is back in the set... > The mix was decent for Northern Lights but the keyboards were too low > as usual. Yeah, the sound there isn't great. For some reason it's better further back... theo From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Oct 24 13:26:06 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:26:06 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind and the miracal of ebay In-Reply-To: <27.2fbda4d6.2ae88061@aol.com>; from Chuckrecs@AOL.COM on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 06:44:49PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 06:44:49PM -0400, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > In a message dated 10/23/02 2:31:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > > > A cd copy of QSC just sold for 55 pounds on ebay. Thats nearly $150AU > > Well then why did mine only fetch $20US???? Bummer. Depends partly on how recently another one sold, I think -- if the person who was willing to bid a huge amount did so and won, he won't be bidding on your copy. And if another such person hasn't come along yet... I lost an auction for a copy of Hype (the book). Shortly later another copy came up, and I won that (yippee!) for a *lot* less than I'd bid the first time. But I bet that if it had been months instead of weeks between the two auctions, the second one would have gone for more than it did. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The acronym for "the powers that be" differs by only one letter from that for "the pointy-haired boss". From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Oct 24 15:36:47 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:36:47 -0500 Subject: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: <3DB7F003.26883.12BFC57@localhost> Message-ID: Just a quick note agreeing with the Antigone Rising sentiment I read on the list. This band just doesn't cut the mustard either musically or in "uniqueness". Amazing the number of younger (21 - 25) yr old women and men there to see them however so they have some following. Just too much Female angst for me to understand. What was VERY cool however was the knot of three young (18 - 21) women, as well as a different know of four young (18 - 21) men, in front and to the right of me the entire BOC performance. (I was standing very close to the stage). Nice to see the next generation enjoying the boys as much as us 40+ yr olds! (I know their ages because the venue allows all ages and marks the "underage" with a big X on the top of the hand.) More comments below. Mike ::->-----Original Message----- ::->From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::->Behalf Of Ted Jackson ::->Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:05 PM ::->To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::->Subject: Re: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. ::-> ::-> ::->On 24 Oct 2002, at 12:34, Mike Montfort wrote: ::-> ::->>> Now on to the "Albany" (Clifton Park) concert. No Bucks Boogie!?! ::->> Very strange. ::->> ::->> No set lists as I warned but the band was very tight. I was standing ::->> four people away from the stage and enjoyed seeing the band so close. ::->> Closest I have ever been except for one SWB show in SF but that was so ::->> long ago I really don't remember it that well.. LOL ::->> ::->Generally, the sound is better back by the board at a B?C show. ::->But you want to see what bD's up to! Yea well since no one joined me for the CP show I thought I'd just mosey up front... ::-> ::-> Allan and Eric were ::->> playing a beautiful blue guitar (not at the same time of course) with ::->> a great airbrush painting of the BOC Cross with the reaper standing in ::->> front of it. Sorry I don't know brand types by sight. ::->> ::->That would be an Eric bloom model by Harper. EB has a couple of ::->them. AL usually plays Fenders, a Lone Star Strat, or, lately, a 52 ::->reissue Tele... ::-> Would that be a yellowish finish. Perhaps what he plays on LdoM? Fantastic sound from that guitar. ::->> Buck played a lot of stuff on a headless guitar as well as a white ::->> guitar with divots in it looking almost like Swiss cheese. ::-> ::->Uh, the white one is headless too, a 'cheeseburger' Steinberger. ::->BD's choice for many years now... I'm thinking due to a possibly impared state, that the headless and the cheeseburger where one and the same.. and our fave bass player was playing a headless the entire show as well. ::-> ::-> I noticed ::->> also that Allan closes his eyes when he does the intro to Joan ::->> Crawford. ::-> ::->Ah, that explains it! ::-> Not nice LOL. It's a good piece... ::->Dominance - Submission yea that too. Godzilla/Reaper of ::->> course. Lips in the Hills as one of the encores was an interesting ::->> choice which I very much enjoyed. ::-> ::->Not usually an encore, so yeah! Not always in the set list, but it ::->does appear from time to time, kind of like Teen Archer. Did they ::->do that one? ::-> ::-> New stuff was Perfect Water, See ::->> you in Black and Pockets. ::->> ::->Glad SYiB is back in the set... Very much done in an almost punk style.. much harder than on the studio. ::-> ::->> The mix was decent for Northern Lights but the keyboards were too low ::->> as usual. ::-> ::->Yeah, the sound there isn't great. For some reason it's better ::->further back... But you can't see further back... lol ::-> ::->theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 24 14:55:02 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:55:02 EDT Subject: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 24 Oct 2002, at 14:36, Mike Montfort wrote: > ::-> Allan and Eric were > ::->> playing a beautiful blue guitar (not at the same time of course) > with ::->> a great airbrush painting of the BOC Cross with the reaper > standing in ::->> front of it. Sorry I don't know brand types by > sight. ::->> ::->That would be an Eric bloom model by Harper. EB has > a couple of ::->them. AL usually plays Fenders, a Lone Star Strat, > or, lately, a 52 ::->reissue Tele... ::-> > > Would that be a yellowish finish. Perhaps what he plays on LdoM? > Fantastic sound from that guitar. > Sounds right. Generally called 'butterscotch' among guitar geezers... > > ::->> Buck played a lot of stuff on a headless guitar as well as a > white ::->> guitar with divots in it looking almost like Swiss cheese. > ::-> ::->Uh, the white one is headless too, a 'cheeseburger' > Steinberger. ::->BD's choice for many years now... > > > I'm thinking due to a possibly impared state, that the headless and > the cheeseburger where one and the same.. BD usually brings 2 Steinbergers, sometimes 3. A sunburst, the swiss cheese model, and occasionally a black one... and our fave bass player was > playing a headless the entire show as well. > That's a switch. He uesd to use a Jazz Bass, and sometimes a Spector, I think... > ::->Dominance - Submission yea that too. Godzilla/Reaper of > ::->> course. Lips in the Hills as one of the encores was an > interesting ::->> choice which I very much enjoyed. ::-> ::->Not > usually an encore, so yeah! Not always in the set list, but it > ::->does appear from time to time, kind of like Teen Archer. Did they > ::->do that one? ::-> ::-> New stuff was Perfect Water, See ::->> you > in Black and Pockets. ::->> ::->Glad SYiB is back in the set... > > Very much done in an almost punk style.. much harder than on the > studio. > A great live tune. Ultimate B?C... theo From gordonreid9 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 24 16:20:31 2002 From: gordonreid9 at HOTMAIL.COM (Gordon Reid) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:20:31 +0000 Subject: XMAS party - gig poster Message-ID: I have the original too signed by Huw that got ripped when he was signing it so he added a wee message ( sorry bout the holes ). Cheers. Gordon. >From: Michael Blackman >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: XMAS party - gig poster >Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:13:13 +0930 > >Very nice. I've got the original poster (framed) but this one with the >concert details on it will compliment it very nicely. Especially being >signed by the artist!! > >Any idea on what the cost will be so I can foreplan? > >und > >What are the odds of getting a band signing as well? > >Cheers >Michael B _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Oct 24 13:38:20 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:38:20 +0100 Subject: HW: XMAS party Message-ID: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:20:27PM +0400, Alisa wrote: > > > One other thing. If anyone is organising a car pool between the various > > > gigs yet to be announced let me know - I am quite a thin chap so shouldn't > > > take up too much space. > > > > Yes, I also would be interested... I'm going to Brighton (assuming its on) & Walthamstow. I'll be happy to ferry a carload between those 2 gigs & down to Brighton for anyone on the way (I'll be coming from Milton Keynes). As for any other gigs that may be announced I can't say. I may have to put in an appearance at work that week. Nick From dahl at AROS.NET Fri Oct 25 03:52:01 2002 From: dahl at AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 01:52:01 -0600 Subject: BOC: Spector or Fender, hmmm Message-ID: >>>That's a switch. He uesd to use a Jazz Bass, and sometimes a Spector, I think... I've only seen him play the Spector live. The last time they were in Utah (at the County Fair), he sound checked with the Jazz bass, but played the Spector for the whole show. The Jazz sounded monsterous though. Who knew? I still haven't heard/seen LDN. The other Brad on this list is supposed to bring the DVD over to my house for a night of neighborhood shaking entertainment. I'm glad to hear Bobby turned in a good performance. Last time here he was quite lethargic and seemed more interested in his cigarettes than his drums. Maybe he was molested at a County Fair when he was a child. For the other bass players on the list, I just got a new amp. SWR 750x. Very nice. I'm powering an Eden 4x12 and an SWR Son of Bertha 1x15 (both with horns). I use a Sansamp Bass Driver to beef up my passive basses. The guitar players in the band love me now. Brad From mrvarley at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Oct 25 04:39:05 2002 From: mrvarley at UCLAN.AC.UK (Martin Roy Varley) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:39:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Original Hawkwind Gig??????? Message-ID: Hello BOC-L list Maybe some of you can shed some light on this..... I live in Preston (north-west UK) and the local paper has an advert for 'The Original Hawkwind' playing at the Marquee on Aqueduct Street. No date is given although the ad says that tickets are now on sale - call for more information. I've just called them but there's no-one there at the moment. Is this Nik's band or the real thing??? Cheers Martin From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Oct 25 05:16:40 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:16:40 +0100 Subject: Wembley Message-ID: Sorry been off air for a few days. Yes that was a Trust song. Re-read my brief review and it sounded a bit negative! Wasn't knocking the band just the sound and venue, I actually thought they did alright considering the technical problems/limitations. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Linsley To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 20/10/02 14:20 Subject: Re: Wembley My ears are still ringing too. Motorhead set list for those interested - We Are Motorhead No Class Shoot You In The Back Civil War God Save The Queen Brave New World Metropolis Love For Sale (I think) Dr Rock Ramones Shut Your Mouth Damage Case You Better Run Sacrifice Orgasmatron Going To Brazil Killed By Death Iron Fist ----------- Bomber Ace of Spades Overkill Good selection I thought. HW sounded better from nearer the stage, but back by the mixing desk it was a bit of a muddle. Loads of guitar feedback at one point for Huw. Alans vocals only cut in during the Watcher. Arthur Brown clearly didn't know the words to Master but it didn't stop him. Tim seemed to be playing mainly synthy swizzles, and at some points just wandered offstage altogether. Despite these problems they were pretty tight, especially Huw, Master was very good, the Palestine section in Hassan was kept brief. I'm glad I went, it was fun, a variation on a HW gig that you won't see very often! If they got some dosh for it and recruited a few more HW fans then so much the better. Can anybody here confirm my belief that the Anthrax number Antisocial is in fact the song by the French band Trust who toured with Iron Maiden in 1981? So, what's happened to Simon, and will he be at Walthamstow on Thurs? Anybody know? AL --- "Jobson, Eddie" wrote: > My opinion > > Sound was crap > Venue was crap > No drinking or smoking in auditorium > > Set included Ejection, Angels of Death, Motorway > City, Hurry on Sundown, > Master of the Universe and The Gremlin (with Arthur > Brown), The Watcher, > Asassins of Allah (best number in my view as it was > the first time Alan's > vocals could be heard!) and Silver Machine with > Lemmy. Might have been one > or two other songs I've forgot. Line up was Dave, > Ali, Tim, Huw, Richard > with Arthur Brown and Lemmy guesting. On stage for > about 45 minutes. Dave's > vocals were a bit too loud, Tim's keyboards were > either defeaning or you > couldn't hear them, no vocals for Alan for most of > set and the occasional > elctrical buzz. > > Anthrax were too heavy for me. > > Motorhead were okay but I only new about 6 of their > songs, No Class, Iron > Fist, Bomber, Overkill, Metropolis and Ace of > Spades, but it was loud my > ears are still ringing. > > Eddie. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Fri Oct 25 05:28:36 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:28:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Wembley gig Message-ID: Alan, Bernhard, I used included to cover my arse as I was sure I must have forgotten one or two, but if Alan's list is correct I must have got it about right. A recording of it would be advised from the mixing desk as hopefully the point at which the sound is recorded is 'further up the cable' than the missing vocals and distortion. It's Friday and I think my ears have just stopped ringing! It didn't seem any louder than a normal gig in there but when I left, I was seriously in need of some ear buds. Not sure if it was just Motorhead who were load or all the bands as I didn't realise my deafness until I was outside. Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Linsley To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 22/10/02 19:28 Subject: Re: HW: Wembley gig Hey Bernhard Eddie Jobson posted the set but cunningly used the word "included" which may have thrown some people, so, to confirm, the HW set was - Ejection Angels of Death Motorway City Hurry on Sundown Master of the Universe (w. Arthur Brown) Song of the Gremlin (w. Arthur Brown) The Watcher (Alans vocals cut in during this) Hassan I Sahba inc. Palestine ------------------------------ Silver Machine (w. Lemmy & Arthur Brown) Now if I only I could place those missing 2 Motorhead tracks.. AL --- Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > Hi > Is really noone able here to give us an exact track > listing in the right > order ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Oct 25 06:52:09 2002 From: alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Alan=20Linsley?=) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:52:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Original Hawkwind Gig??????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Martin Could be Nik's lot. They usually mention that they include original members of HW (which is fair enough) but that ain't the same as Original HW is it? If it's any help, the following was posted to neoquark yesterday by "D Rider" under the title Space Ritual.net dates or something similar. The 4th Jan thing sounds similar to "your" gig - 8th November Mean Fiddler ,Charing,Cross Road London [PLUS INNER CITY UNIT at the Mean Fiddler] 29th November Yales/Central Station,Wrexham 12th December Limelight, Crewe 13th December Rock Caf? 2000, Stourbridge 4th January 2003 Private Party in a large marquee North Wales 17th Jan The Charlotte Leicester 23rd Jan The Brook Southampton 24th Jan Roadmenders Northampton 30th Jan The Robin2 Bilston 31st Jan Hebden Bridge Trades Club Support act: Tractor Cheers AL --- Martin Roy Varley wrote: > Hello BOC-L list > > Maybe some of you can shed some light on this..... > > I live in Preston (north-west UK) and the local > paper has an advert for 'The Original Hawkwind' > playing at the Marquee on Aqueduct Street. No date > is given although the ad says that tickets are now > on sale - call for more information. I've just > called them but there's no-one there at the moment. > > Is this Nik's band or the real thing??? > > Cheers > > Martin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From mrvarley at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Oct 25 07:13:45 2002 From: mrvarley at UCLAN.AC.UK (Martin Roy Varley) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:13:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Original Hawkwind Gig??????? Message-ID: Sounds like it could be these - the Marquee in Preston is a small venue though - not an actual marquee but an old mill. I saw Pinkwind there a few years back - advertised as including Nik and Huw but Huw wasn't actually there! I'll post again if I find out more. Martin >>> alankerren at YAHOO.CO.UK 10/25/02 11:52am >>> Martin Could be Nik's lot. They usually mention that they include original members of HW (which is fair enough) but that ain't the same as Original HW is it? If it's any help, the following was posted to neoquark yesterday by "D Rider" under the title Space Ritual.net dates or something similar. The 4th Jan thing sounds similar to "your" gig - 8th November Mean Fiddler ,Charing,Cross Road London [PLUS INNER CITY UNIT at the Mean Fiddler] 29th November Yales/Central Station,Wrexham 12th December Limelight, Crewe 13th December Rock Cafi 2000, Stourbridge 4th January 2003 Private Party in a large marquee North Wales 17th Jan The Charlotte Leicester 23rd Jan The Brook Southampton 24th Jan Roadmenders Northampton 30th Jan The Robin2 Bilston 31st Jan Hebden Bridge Trades Club Support act: Tractor Cheers AL --- Martin Roy Varley wrote: > Hello BOC-L list > > Maybe some of you can shed some light on this..... > > I live in Preston (north-west UK) and the local > paper has an advert for 'The Original Hawkwind' > playing at the Marquee on Aqueduct Street. No date > is given although the ad says that tickets are now > on sale - call for more information. I've just > called them but there's no-one there at the moment. > > Is this Nik's band or the real thing??? > > Cheers > > Martin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Oct 25 07:16:09 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:46:09 +0930 Subject: HW: Original Hawkwind Gig??????? Message-ID: No way it could be the original - if even one of the secret herbs or spices is missing it aint the original ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Linsley To: Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Original Hawkwind Gig??????? > Martin > > Could be Nik's lot. They usually mention that they > include original members of HW (which is fair enough) > but that ain't the same as Original HW is it? If it's > any help, the following was posted to neoquark > yesterday by "D Rider" under the title Space > Ritual.net dates or something similar. The 4th Jan > thing sounds similar to "your" gig - > > 8th November Mean Fiddler ,Charing,Cross Road London > [PLUS INNER CITY UNIT at the Mean Fiddler] > 29th November Yales/Central Station,Wrexham > 12th December Limelight, Crewe > 13th December Rock Caf? 2000, Stourbridge > 4th January 2003 Private Party in a large marquee > North Wales > 17th Jan The Charlotte Leicester > 23rd Jan The Brook Southampton > 24th Jan Roadmenders Northampton > 30th Jan The Robin2 Bilston > 31st Jan Hebden Bridge Trades Club > > Support act: Tractor > > Cheers > > AL > > --- Martin Roy Varley wrote: > > Hello BOC-L list > > > > Maybe some of you can shed some light on this..... > > > > I live in Preston (north-west UK) and the local > > paper has an advert for 'The Original Hawkwind' > > playing at the Marquee on Aqueduct Street. No date > > is given although the ad says that tickets are now > > on sale - call for more information. I've just > > called them but there's no-one there at the moment. > > > > Is this Nik's band or the real thing??? > > > > Cheers > > > > Martin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Fri Oct 25 11:41:03 2002 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:41:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Original Hawkwind Gig??????? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you have a copy of the add it might be worth keeping it and getting it to Dave Brock as this is just the sort of crap that the forthcoming court case is trying to resolve. I'm not saying it's Nik's fault (could be some wanker at the venue with an eye for a fast buck) but this illustrates the sort of confusion that surrounds the present hassles. Horse On 25 Oct 2002 at 9:39, Martin Roy Varley wrote: > Hello BOC-L list > > Maybe some of you can shed some light on this..... > > I live in Preston (north-west UK) and the local paper has an advert for 'The Original Hawkwind' playing at the Marquee on Aqueduct Street. No date is given although the ad says that tickets are now on sale - call for more information. I've just called them but there's no-one there at the moment. > > Is this Nik's band or the real thing??? > > Cheers > > Martin From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Oct 25 16:03:57 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:03:57 -0400 Subject: HW: TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED Message-ID: + ++ + STAR WARRIORS :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: NEW TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED: DECEMBER MINI-TOUR: The following tour dates have now been confirmed; full details of venue contacts i will be announced as soon as they are released by the venues: 4th Newcastle - Opera House 5th Hanley - Victoria Halls 6th Manchester - Academy 2 8th Liverpool - Nations - 0151-709-1693 9th Leeds - Irish Centre 10th Northampton - Roadmenders 12th Brighton - Concorde 2: 01273-772770 13th London - Walthamstow Assembly Hall (Xmas Party Gig) - 020-8521-7111 Tim Blake and Arthur Brown will be joining us on the tour..... Pete Pracownik will be signing limited edition posters at the Walthamstow gig. . . . More Detail Follows . . . . . . .. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: + +MESSAGE ENDS + + + From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Oct 25 17:42:36 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:42:36 -0400 Subject: Innerpropriates-Is this the Aqueous? Message-ID: HI, Anyone got any knowledge or info on this? Supposed to be demos with NIK from 82. He is definately on them. Is this prior to going back to Hawkwind? Can anyone help? Cheers STEPHE From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Oct 25 17:47:49 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:47:49 -0400 Subject: HW: New Bedouin Gig Message-ID: BEDOUIN DATE: Saturday November 30th The Malvern Fringe Theatre Albert Road North Great Malvern Worcs. SUPPORT: Harvey Bainbridge (Bedouin's guest: Simon House) Doors: 8.00pm Tickets ?5.00adv. / ?8.00 on door Contact: 01684-56107 (Alan) Lights by Chaos Illumination From youless at LVCM.COM Sat Oct 26 03:31:50 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 03:31:50 -0400 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: Hi This isn't an attempt to reopen a recent thread. I had a crack at deciphering the lyrics to Right To Decide, here's what we have so far, any corrections / suggestions gratefully received: ---------------------------------------------- I'm a digital consumer sitting safely in my room I watch my video and read my book My mind's on the surface with the news on the screen That's another area, it's so obscene You can't do this You can't do that You can't go forward and you can't go back You can't do this You can't do that You can't go forward and you can't go back I'm not a party person I'm a TV fan There's so many things that I don't understand I didn't want to steal and TV is my thrill It's a peculiar game... ---------------------------------------------- Or is that last line "In a peculiar way..."? I could also make a case for the last line of the first verse being "Lots of people worry and it's so obscene"... Tab for this song, with the lyrics as above is already up on my site Steve From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Oct 26 03:41:52 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:11:52 +0930 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: >From memory I think it is thus: Im a digital citizen safe in my room I've got my video to relieve the gloom minds on a circuit with the news on the screen lifes a no go area and its so obscene when you cant do this you cant do that you cant go forward and you cant go back Im a modern person im a tv fan but theres so many things that I dont understand why do you want to steal when on tv its not real its a viewing game repeat chorus been singing it at rehearsals lately ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Youles To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:01 PM Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > Hi > > This isn't an attempt to reopen a recent thread. I had a crack at > deciphering the lyrics to Right To Decide, here's what we have so far, any > corrections / suggestions gratefully received: > > ---------------------------------------------- > > I'm a digital consumer sitting safely in my room > I watch my video and read my book > My mind's on the surface with the news on the screen > That's another area, it's so obscene > > You can't do this > You can't do that > You can't go forward and you can't go back > You can't do this > You can't do that > You can't go forward and you can't go back > > I'm not a party person I'm a TV fan > There's so many things that I don't understand > I didn't want to steal and TV is my thrill > It's a peculiar game... > > ---------------------------------------------- > > Or is that last line "In a peculiar way..."? I could also make a case for > the last line of the first verse being "Lots of people worry and it's so > obscene"... > > Tab for this song, with the lyrics as above is already up on my site > > Steve From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Oct 26 04:04:36 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:04:36 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 10/19 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: For comments/questions/requests, before, during or after the program, e-mail me at: . 10/19/02 1.Floating Flower "Fuwa Fuwa" (1st/2nd; Black Plastic Sound) 2.David Thomas and the Wooden Birds "My Town" (Blame the Messenger; Twin Tone) 3.Holger Czukay "title-track" (Good Morning Story; Tone Casualties) 4.Ozric Tentacles "Myriapod" (Arbourescence; Dovetail) 5.Avey Tare and Panda Bear "Alvin Row" (Spirit They're Gone Spirit They've Vanished; Animal) 6.Psychic TV "Starlit Mire" (Allegory and Self; Temple) 7.The Orb "Valley" (Dipping into the Cyberworld; Trance) 8.Hawkwind "Blue Skin" (Love in Space; EBS) 9.Magma "Maant" (Attahk; Decal/Charly) 10.Can "Future Days" (Mute/Spoon) 11.Hellbore "Les Lions" (Il y a des Jours; Musea/Gazul) 12.Pseudo Buddha "Seven Leage Boots" (Motive; Uncle Buzz) 13.Bevis Frond "Window Eye" (Inner Marshlands; Reckless) 14.Tangerine Dream "Ashes to Ashes" (Electronic Meditation; Castle/Sequel) 15.Pretty Things "Private Sorrow" (S.F. Sorrow; Snapper) 16.Melting Euphoria "In Aquarian Dream" (Space Box comp; Cleopatra) thanks, Chuck From novadrive at COX.NET Sat Oct 26 04:20:33 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 01:20:33 -0700 Subject: HW: Sonic Rock Solstice Video Message-ID: Uhhhhhm, due to my dumbness, I ended up with an extra copy of this video. Information on it is here: http://punkcast.com/201/ When I ordered it online, I got an error message saying something like "Error on page" after I clicked OK on the final confirmation page, so I backed up and resubmitted. Result: there wasn't really an error, so I ended up ordering it twice. So: I have an extra copy of this NTSC video that I'd like to find a good home for, for $20 post-paid. KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Oct 25 15:43:11 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:43:11 +0100 Subject: HW: BBC Tardis court case Message-ID: It seems that the BBC have just won an ongoing court case with the Metropolitan Police over who owns the copyright and/or trademark to the blue police public call box that we all know as the Tardis. The case have been rule in favour of the BBC because, although the Met designed/invented the box, it has been almost entirely identified with Doctor Who for many years, since the call box disappeared from the streets long ago. An interesting and relevant legal precedent, perhaps? Nick From gortay at AOL.COM Sat Oct 26 07:28:26 2002 From: gortay at AOL.COM (Gordon Taylor) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:28:26 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Dancer Message-ID: Ok guys'n'gals this is a real long shot but I want to know the following. On the Space Ritual tour Hawkwind had 2 female dancers with them. One was Stacia of course but I want to know the name of the other dancer. She was American, I think, and blond but that's about all I can tell you. I know it was a long time ago but someone must know. I met her after the gig at Derby's Kings Hall and we chatted for quite a while but I fogot to ask her name and it's been bugging me for all these years. Gordy. xxx From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Oct 26 08:07:03 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:07:03 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Dancer Message-ID: Renee. She came from California. But that's all I know I'm afraid! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Taylor" > Ok guys'n'gals this is a real long shot but I want to know the following. > On the Space Ritual tour Hawkwind had 2 female dancers with them. One was > Stacia of course but I want to know the name of the other dancer. She was > American, I think, and blond but that's about all I can tell you. I know it > was a long time ago but someone must know. > > I met her after the gig at Derby's Kings Hall and we chatted for quite a > while but I fogot to ask her name and it's been bugging me for all these years. > From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Oct 26 07:43:02 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:43:02 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind Dancer In-Reply-To: <200210261128.HAA17689@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Gordy I think her name was RENEE cheers Bernhard At 07:28 26.10.2002 -0400, you wrote: >Ok guys'n'gals this is a real long shot but I want to know the following. >On the Space Ritual tour Hawkwind had 2 female dancers with them. One was >Stacia of course but I want to know the name of the other dancer. She was >American, I think, and blond but that's about all I can tell you. I know it >was a long time ago but someone must know. > >I met her after the gig at Derby's Kings Hall and we chatted for quite a >while but I fogot to ask her name and it's been bugging me for all these years. > > >Gordy. xxx > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Oct 26 09:50:12 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:50:12 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations October 2002 issue online NOW!!! Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com The October 2002 issue (#21) of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers SpaceRock, Psychedelia, Electronic music, plus the more eclectic forms of Jazz and Progressive rock. See the index of this issue's contents below. 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All the above can be found by setting your vessel's controls for http://Aural-Innovations.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Oct 26 09:55:16 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:55:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics In-Reply-To: Steve Youles's message of Sat, 26 Oct 2002 03:31:50 -0400 Message-ID: Steve Youles writes: > Hi > > This isn't an attempt to reopen a recent thread. I had a crack at > deciphering the lyrics to Right To Decide, here's what we have so far, any > corrections / suggestions gratefully received: > > ---------------------------------------------- > > I'm a digital consumer sitting safely in my room > I watch my video and read my book > My mind's on the surface with the news on the screen > That's another area, it's so obscene > > You can't do this > You can't do that > You can't go forward and you can't go back > You can't do this > You can't do that > You can't go forward and you can't go back > > I'm not a party person I'm a TV fan > There's so many things that I don't understand > I didn't want to steal and TV is my thrill > It's a peculiar game... > Did you ever get my lyrics file? My attempt went thusly: Right to Decide =============== I'm a digital citizen safe in my room I've got my video to relieve the gloom My mind's on a circuit with the news on a screen Life's a no-go area it's so obscene 'cause you can't do this, you can't do that. You can't go forward and you can't go back. I'm a plugged in person, I'm a TV fan but there's so many things that I don't understand Why do you want to steal? When on TV it's not real It's a viewing game 'cause you can't do this, you can't do that. You can't go forward and you can't go back. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Oct 26 09:57:03 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:03 +0100 Subject: HW: BBC Tardis court case In-Reply-To: Nick Lee's message of Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:43:11 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Lee writes: > It seems that the BBC have just won an ongoing court case with the = > Metropolitan Police over who owns the copyright and/or trademark to the = > blue police public call box that we all know as the Tardis. The case = > have been rule in favour of the BBC because, although the Met = > designed/invented the box, it has been almost entirely identified with = > Doctor Who for many years, since the call box disappeared from the = > streets long ago. In Edinburgh they haven't disappeared. They've been repainted maroon and turned into coffee and biscuit kiosks. Pretty good coffee too. FoFP From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Sat Oct 26 10:22:26 2002 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:22:26 -0400 Subject: Innerpropriates-Is this the Aqueous? Message-ID: Hi Stephe, not demo's. Nik just guested on a couple of tracks on that tape (Orgone Accumulator at least). Innerpropriates sold tapes of their recordings (I've got a couple of other ones sitting round but with Hawk-connections on them) All Is Full Of Living Energy & Colour (with lots of texta work on the photocopied cover/info sheet) There should be more info on the folded cover/info sheet which I've got amongst the tapes somewhere or other. Give me a reminder and I'll try to dig it out. Jeff On Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:42:36 -0400, stephe lindas wrote: >HI, Anyone got any knowledge or info on this? Supposed to be demos with NIK from 82. He is definately on them. Is this prior to going back to Hawkwind? Can anyone help? Cheers STEPHE From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Oct 26 11:09:53 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:09:53 EDT Subject: OFF: Nektar German Tour Cancelled Message-ID: The Nektar German Tour has been cancelled. Will re-schedule in Spring 03! The UK (Shepards Bush Empire)show is still on for Nov 27th!!! Don't miss this one..it's a blinder! B From youless at LVCM.COM Sat Oct 26 12:53:06 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:53:06 -0400 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: Hi Yep, these make much more sense. Thanks for your help, Elric & Fofp! Alan Taylor also came up with the same so no doubt about it really. Steve From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sat Oct 26 13:10:21 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephe lindas) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:10:21 -0400 Subject: Thrilling HW adventures/Atomhenge 76 Message-ID: Can anyone confirm what gigs these are? Are they the same one? I was lead to believe they were from Hammy and Bristol gigs. Anyone know? Cheers STEPHE From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Oct 26 13:18:17 2002 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:18:17 +0100 Subject: Thrilling HW adventures/Atomhenge 76 Message-ID: I *think* they are both the same gig..Bristol Colston Hall. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephe lindas" To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: Thrilling HW adventures/Atomhenge 76 Can anyone confirm what gigs these are? Are they the same one? I was lead to believe they were from Hammy and Bristol gigs. Anyone know? Cheers STEPHE From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Oct 26 18:14:06 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:14:06 +0100 Subject: BOC: Don't Fear The Bloody Reaper In-Reply-To: <028701c25dcb$16145250$139427d9@bernard>; from rich@BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK on Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:50:33PM +0100 Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:50:33PM +0100, Richard Lockwood typed out: > OK - quick show of hands here. How many people have told folks in the pub > that BOC is their favourite band ever, only to hear the response "Didn't > they do 'Don't Fear The Reaper' - I've never heard anything else..."? Oh yes. In the pub, at college, wherever I might have mentioned the band in fact. Oh well. Yours, Jon ObCD: Magic Muscle - _Gulp_ (don't waste you money on this one) -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Oct 26 19:01:55 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:01:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: touring bands In-Reply-To: <00a301c26021$1bd498a0$487087d9@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 10:11:22PM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 10:11:22PM +0100, Jill Strobridge typed out: It's really no use replying to this this late, but I;m hoping to get over that with quantity over relevance... > Two flyers received in the post - one says that "The Pretty Things" are > touring with special guest ARTHUR BROWN. Is it *the* Arthur Brown > does anyone know? They are playing Edinburgh on 6th October which > might be worth a visit if he is going to be there. Yes, it's him, but what that means you'd have got I don't know. I've passed on every chance I've had to see The Pretty Things sibce I found out what they sounded like, not because I dislike it, but because I have here _Resurrection_, which is essentially _S. F. Sorrow_ live with Arthur Brown narrating and Dave Gilmour on lead guitar, and so far that's (with or without Gilmour) more or less what they seem to have been doing live, and I know what that sounds like... so I haven't been interested enough to go. > The other flyer says that the "21st Century Schizoid Band" is touring. > This appears to be quite a large chunk of X-King Crimson (pardon me) and > in theory should be a good show. They are in Cambridge tomorrow, > Newcastle on Saturday and Edinburgh on Sunday. If anyone has a chance > to hear them could they post a quick review? That on the other hand was quite literally right up my street, so I did go, and I wrote this review of it: "The 21st Century Schizoid Band. This, should you not know, is four ex-members of King Crimson and a new vocalist-guitarist doing old KC material and new solo etc. stuff. So we sort of had to go, what with them being in our town and everything. "Support was one man with a six-string fretless bass, a load of pedals and a box which I shall term a loop generator. He came on stage, said, `?Clap then, '?m the support ac't?, and transpired to be called Steve Lawson. He had a lot of pedals, at least one of which was a pitchshifter, and thus managed to cover a lot of ground with his bass. What he did was to set up riffs and odd-noise patterns, loop them and build on them, but this is a rather limited art-form, and nothing he could do was interesting for longer than about two minutes because it became impossible to change anything much. He wasn'?t in full control of it either; he messed up the timing on a couple of the loops, his natural rhythm wasn?t perfect and hewas trying to work too many controls. He had to keep telling the audience when stuff was finished. I thought that there would be people interested to see how it was done who would then do similar things but not all by themselves. It wasn'?t an act in itself. The actual band though, whom we went to see and everything, were rather better. One may learn something from the instruments on stage as they took it; Mel Collins, ex-Lindisfarne among other things, had a treble, tenor and a baritone saxophone, a flute, and a synthesizer; the drummer, Michael Giles, had a huge drum-kit with ten cymbals on it, half of which kit turned out to be pressure pads set *loud* so that he sounded as if he were really belting it when in fact he was being normal; Jacko Jakszyk, the guitarist and vocalist, ex-Level 42 of all things but also Michael Giles's son-in-law, was also playing a flute in one number and helped Mel with the synth; the other Giles brother, Peter, nearly only played the bass but also took a hand (literally--he pressed one key) with the second synth at one point; and Ian MacDonald played synthesizer, tambourines, flute and grand piano. They didn't have a mellotron, which was rather a pity but beyond that it was difficult to see what they might be missing. We got several twin-lead-flute passages therefore and everyone shifted round quite a lot outside the rhythm section. All were very good, *especially* the rhythm section; the bass player made everything look utterly effortless, doing everything the simplest way, and the drummer as I say was making full use of electronics to boost his kit, though the pressure pads didn't always help as they only seemed to have quiet and *loud* options and they were often louder than the rest of the kit, and at moments indeed the whole band. That was the only mix problem though. To get all criticisms done with quickly, Ian MacDonald shouldn't sing; and Jacko, though he was very good at imitating early Robert Fripp, wasn't half as good as Fripp is now, and seemed to actually want to be Satriani or someone more widdly than Fripp when he was actually let solo. Furthermore, though his pitch was perfect, unusually so, he couldn't reach the high notes as clearly as the (admittedly much-treated-in-the-studio) voice of Greg Lake does on the first album, and it was odd hearing the crystal-clear lines of `Epitaph' so husky, and losing the top note that makes it so poignant. He did very well but wasn't quite the thing. If you had to pick a weak link... but that would be very unfair because the band was ridiculously well-drilled and made no mistakes that I could spot, apart from nearly fluffing one of the all-change moments which you have to be damn good to try anyway mid-song, so no weakest link title need be awarded. "The set-list, with comments, was like this: Pictures of a City (big sax!) Cat Food (this is a test song really, isn't it? A bad band can't do it, only a good band can do it well; this proved we had a good band here) Let There Be Light (a new number by MacDonald and Pete Seinfeld, not bad but rather less ambitious in terms of rhythm and so on than I might have hoped, 4/4 all through) Progress (a solo number of I think Mel's, social commentary of a fairly usual sort--at this point I realised the problem of having such a good band playing, it made it difficult to tell when the material was poor because it was all given virtuoso treatment anyway) The Court of the Crimson King (before which Jacko explained his presence in the band as the result of winning 2001 Prog Idol with this number... It was very good, but the lack of mellotron meant it didn't swamp one as much it should do. 9/10) Formentera Lady (lovely building long jam here) Tomorrow's People (a Giles-MacDonald number, bouncy, again its essential floppy-hippiness and lack of interest hidden by the excellent playing--nonetheless I did not feel I needed the album) If I Was (a solo number by Ian, again, not inspiring compared to what else they were playing) Ladies of the Road (this was top stuff; Jacko's voice was fine for this, and I'm probably going to like any song that starts in 9/4 and then `settles' into 7/4... ) I Talk to the Wind (not so right for this, though he did it perfectly well; he's just not Greg Lake) Epitaph (this would have been excellent had he made that top note, but he, perhaps wisely, didn't try, and again only 9/10) * ? (I don't know what the first tune of the encore was--other setlists suggest it would be `Birdman--The Reflection'? But it sounded like a Rick Wright number and was easily the weakest thing they played all night) 21st Century Schizoid Man (no complaints about this at all!) "In sum, they weren't quite King Crimson but they were doing stuff KC don't do now, and they came damn close. I didn't feel the need to get their album because, basically, the studio recordings aren't different enough, which is a commendation of a sort I suppose? Worth seeing live though, definitely!" Yours, Jon (on some kind of mail case) -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Thu Oct 24 13:31:57 2002 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:31:57 +0100 Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20021024121234.0069c194@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > But who needs >BOC to do Imaginos-ish tunes when you can see and hear the Brain surgeons? >i would never have thought "Siege and Investiture" could be pulled off with >only 3 musicians 'till they did it (twice!!!!!). OK, so when do us Brits get to see The Brain Surgeons over on our side of the Atlantic? -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com Read my blog! http://www.kalyr.com/weblog From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Oct 27 01:44:56 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:44:56 EST Subject: a lurker's DVD review Message-ID: been a long time since i posted here; lurking, reading everyone's opinions RE: the dvd... i guess i'll submit my 2 cents... Bottom Line with me: I understand WHY they don't play the Bouchard Bro's songs, but it just ain't BOC without their CONSIDERABLE contributions to the canon. sure, there's a nod here and there; but i must go down in the BOC-L books as one who considers this line-up of the past 8 yrs as 3OC, not BOC. And eric seems to be BARELY keeping it (vox) together. 'Lips' suffers. Alan impresses, as ever. package artwork is awesome. bobm From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Sun Oct 27 13:39:59 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:39:59 -0500 Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ::Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: :: ::> But who needs ::>BOC to do Imaginos-ish tunes when you can see and hear the ::Brain surgeons? ::>i would never have thought "Siege and Investiture" could be ::pulled off with ::>only 3 musicians 'till they did it (twice!!!!!). Well myself for one. Brain Surgeons are nice and all that but they just don't have the impact of BOC. Sorry. Mike From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Oct 27 13:34:45 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Trev) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:34:45 -0000 Subject: Judge Trev on the radio Message-ID: Judge trev's "Black raven Love" from the album God and Man live on Lord Litters Radio Show ...It's the 4th song on the show http://www.cyberstormradio.com/ ...just click the" listen live" button EDT time USA east coast 4pm sunday 27 oct 1pm wednesday 30 oct 6pm fri 1 nov GMT time ENGLAND 9pm sunday 27 oct 6pm wednesday 30 oct 11pm fri 1 nov God and Man info: http://www.mercurymoon.co.uk/rfm/music.html#judge-trev Real Festival Music - RFM http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk The latest festy CD's, News, Reviews, Vid downloads, Forum From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Oct 27 15:55:24 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:55:24 +0000 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: enlightened again...the only bit I can hear's wrong is @'I'm a pluged in person-I'm a T.V fan' Great song !! cheers for that! I haven't heard that for ages! Listening again!! Main line neon line??? Al. Brain line?? >From: Michael Blackman >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics >Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:11:52 +0930 > >>From memory I think it is thus: > >Im a digital citizen safe in my room >I've got my video to relieve the gloom >minds on a circuit with the news on the screen >lifes a no go area and its so obscene > >when you cant do this you cant do that >you cant go forward and you cant go back > >Im a modern person im a tv fan >but theres so many things that I dont understand >why do you want to steal when on tv its not real its a viewing game > >repeat chorus > >been singing it at rehearsals lately ;-) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Steve Youles >To: >Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:01 PM >Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > > > > Hi > > > > This isn't an attempt to reopen a recent thread. I had a crack at > > deciphering the lyrics to Right To Decide, here's what we have so far, >any > > corrections / suggestions gratefully received: > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > I'm a digital consumer sitting safely in my room > > I watch my video and read my book > > My mind's on the surface with the news on the screen > > That's another area, it's so obscene > > > > You can't do this > > You can't do that > > You can't go forward and you can't go back > > You can't do this > > You can't do that > > You can't go forward and you can't go back > > > > I'm not a party person I'm a TV fan > > There's so many things that I don't understand > > I didn't want to steal and TV is my thrill > > It's a peculiar game... > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > Or is that last line "In a peculiar way..."? I could also make a case >for > > the last line of the first verse being "Lots of people worry and it's so > > obscene"... > > > > Tab for this song, with the lyrics as above is already up on my site > > > > Steve _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Oct 27 16:06:51 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:06:51 +0000 Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? Message-ID: Cheers Steve and everyone else...I hear he jumped... sad or what?? Are you comin over for da Xmas party??? Be great to see you again Dude!! >From: stephe lindas >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? >Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 15:20:56 -0400 > >He died awhile ago. I have no idea when or how. It came from a reliable >source though. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "alan day" >To: >Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:09 PM >Subject: Roly (ozrics) R.I.P.??? > > > > I heard some news and I don't know if it's true or what?? Roly... Ed's >bro > > has died ..is dead..one o great bass player>>>Dub done gone man!!! does > > anyone know if its's gosple??Al. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Oct 27 16:18:11 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:18:11 +0000 Subject: HW: Ron Tree Message-ID: Caneee wait mister Trev...I'm lickin me lips !!! >From: "Trev (Judge)" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Ron Tree >Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:01:26 +0000 > >Hallo Neil, > >You can find out about Ron Tree, Judge Trev, and ICH! at Real Festival >Music > http://www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk > >There's gonna be a big explosion of activity next year - watch out! > >Trev > > > > > > >>I have been 'out of touch' with the HW comings and goings for the last few >>years. >>What happened to Ron Tree ? >> I really enjoyed his contributions to HW, especially his energy on >>stage. >>His songwriting on Distant Horizons gave that album a much needed rock >>edge. >> >>Apologies to all if this is old ground, no doubt discussed in length while >>I was away :o( >> >>Cheers >>Neil. >> >> >> >>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>- >>Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of >>the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group >>unless otherwise specifically stated. >>Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the >>Microlise >>Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this >>message. >> >>If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in >>error, please notify Microlise immediately. >> >>Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Sun Oct 27 16:55:24 2002 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:55:24 -0800 Subject: HW: The Warlocks are Hawkind inspired Message-ID: Has anybody heard the music of the Warlocks. Everyone is commenting how they sound like Early Hawkwind and other cool 70's bands. Warlock web site is at http://www.thewarlocks.com/ has anybody seen the albums in shops? --roger __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Oct 27 20:01:03 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:31:03 +1030 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: I believe that part is right - either that or its "Im a modern person" ----- Original Message ----- From: alan day To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:25 AM Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > enlightened again...the only bit I can hear's wrong is @'I'm a pluged in > person-I'm a T.V fan' Great song !! cheers for that! I haven't heard that > for ages! Listening again!! Main line neon line??? Al. Brain line?? > > > > > > > >From: Michael Blackman > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > >Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:11:52 +0930 > > > >From memory I think it is thus: > > > >Im a digital citizen safe in my room > >I've got my video to relieve the gloom > >minds on a circuit with the news on the screen > >lifes a no go area and its so obscene > > > >when you cant do this you cant do that > >you cant go forward and you cant go back > > > >Im a modern person im a tv fan > >but theres so many things that I dont understand > >why do you want to steal when on tv its not real its a viewing game > > > >repeat chorus > > > >been singing it at rehearsals lately ;-) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Steve Youles > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:01 PM > >Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > This isn't an attempt to reopen a recent thread. I had a crack at > > > deciphering the lyrics to Right To Decide, here's what we have so far, > >any > > > corrections / suggestions gratefully received: > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I'm a digital consumer sitting safely in my room > > > I watch my video and read my book > > > My mind's on the surface with the news on the screen > > > That's another area, it's so obscene > > > > > > You can't do this > > > You can't do that > > > You can't go forward and you can't go back > > > You can't do this > > > You can't do that > > > You can't go forward and you can't go back > > > > > > I'm not a party person I'm a TV fan > > > There's so many things that I don't understand > > > I didn't want to steal and TV is my thrill > > > It's a peculiar game... > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Or is that last line "In a peculiar way..."? I could also make a case > >for > > > the last line of the first verse being "Lots of people worry and it's so > > > obscene"... > > > > > > Tab for this song, with the lyrics as above is already up on my site > > > > > > Steve > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Oct 27 20:08:56 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:38:56 +1030 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: Im a switched on person im a tv fan? perhaps ----- Original Message ----- From: alan day To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:25 AM Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > enlightened again...the only bit I can hear's wrong is @'I'm a pluged in > person-I'm a T.V fan' Great song !! cheers for that! I haven't heard that > for ages! Listening again!! Main line neon line??? Al. Brain line?? > > > > > > > >From: Michael Blackman > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > >Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:11:52 +0930 > > > >From memory I think it is thus: > > > >Im a digital citizen safe in my room > >I've got my video to relieve the gloom > >minds on a circuit with the news on the screen > >lifes a no go area and its so obscene > > > >when you cant do this you cant do that > >you cant go forward and you cant go back > > > >Im a modern person im a tv fan > >but theres so many things that I dont understand > >why do you want to steal when on tv its not real its a viewing game > > > >repeat chorus > > > >been singing it at rehearsals lately ;-) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Steve Youles > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:01 PM > >Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > This isn't an attempt to reopen a recent thread. I had a crack at > > > deciphering the lyrics to Right To Decide, here's what we have so far, > >any > > > corrections / suggestions gratefully received: > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > > > I'm a digital consumer sitting safely in my room > > > I watch my video and read my book > > > My mind's on the surface with the news on the screen > > > That's another area, it's so obscene > > > > > > You can't do this > > > You can't do that > > > You can't go forward and you can't go back > > > You can't do this > > > You can't do that > > > You can't go forward and you can't go back > > > > > > I'm not a party person I'm a TV fan > > > There's so many things that I don't understand > > > I didn't want to steal and TV is my thrill > > > It's a peculiar game... > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Or is that last line "In a peculiar way..."? I could also make a case > >for > > > the last line of the first verse being "Lots of people worry and it's so > > > obscene"... > > > > > > Tab for this song, with the lyrics as above is already up on my site > > > > > > Steve > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM Sun Oct 27 20:17:24 2002 From: drb.serendipity at DSL.PIPEX.COM (David Blair) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:17:24 +0000 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics In-Reply-To: <001901c27e1d$994ce520$a3e7223f@laptop> Message-ID: In article <001901c27e1d$994ce520$a3e7223f at laptop>, Michael Blackman writes >I believe that part is right - either that or its "Im a modern person" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: alan day >To: >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:25 AM >Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > > >> enlightened again...the only bit I can hear's wrong is @'I'm a pluged in >> person-I'm a T.V fan' Great song !! cheers for that! I haven't heard that >> for ages! Listening again!! Main line neon line??? Al. Brain line?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >From: Michael Blackman >> >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >> >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> >Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics >> >Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:11:52 +0930 >> > >> >From memory I think it is thus: >> > >> >Im a digital citizen safe in my room >> >I've got my video to relieve the gloom >> >minds on a circuit with the news on the screen >> >lifes a no go area and its so obscene I thought that was 'love's a no-go area', not 'life's a no-go area' -- David Blair From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Oct 27 20:21:20 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:51:20 +1030 Subject: Synthesiser question Message-ID: Has anyone here used or even own a Roland Fantom if so how would you rate it for its versatility as a space rock instrument? Any comments regarding the synth welcome cheers Michael B From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Oct 27 20:27:51 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:57:51 +1030 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: haha - this is becoming rather amusing teehee definatly life I've got a printout somewhere around here from when it was on MC ages ago. Just cant find it. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Blair To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > In article <001901c27e1d$994ce520$a3e7223f at laptop>, Michael Blackman > writes > >I believe that part is right - either that or its "Im a modern person" > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: alan day > >To: > >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:25 AM > >Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > > > > > >> enlightened again...the only bit I can hear's wrong is @'I'm a pluged in > >> person-I'm a T.V fan' Great song !! cheers for that! I haven't heard that > >> for ages! Listening again!! Main line neon line??? Al. Brain line?? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >From: Michael Blackman > >> >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >> >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >> >Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide lyrics > >> >Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:11:52 +0930 > >> > > >> >From memory I think it is thus: > >> > > >> >Im a digital citizen safe in my room > >> >I've got my video to relieve the gloom > >> >minds on a circuit with the news on the screen > >> >lifes a no go area and its so obscene > > I thought that was 'love's a no-go area', not 'life's a no-go area' > -- > David Blair From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Oct 27 21:46:50 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:46:50 EST Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 10/27/2002 8:30:41 PM US Eastern Standard Time, michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: > haha - this is becoming rather amusing teehee > > definatly life > > I've got a printout somewhere around here from when it was on MC ages ago. > Just cant find it. > > > The lyrics listed on D-Rider's site say "plugged in person" and "life's a no-go area." For OFFICIAL lyrics, we'll have to wait for Rik to update MC . . . (waiting patiently) Joe From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Mon Oct 28 00:42:31 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:42:31 +0000 Subject: Synthesiser question Message-ID: Kinda related question I have.... Anyone want to recomend a good midi keyboard? I don't think I want anything exotic with its own samples, just a basic keyboard. Are there midi devices that are not keyboards? Chris From Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM Mon Oct 28 00:36:41 2002 From: Hawkwind at ATTBI.COM (DRider) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:36:41 -0500 Subject: BOC: Reaper on Six Feet Under Message-ID: On the most recent episode of HBO's "Six Feet Under" "Don't Fear The Reaper" was featured quite prominently. This was a studio version, but definitely not the original. So was this version a remix, remaster or a completely new version? It sounded really cool! If you have HBO, "Six Feet Under" is a great show. The lead character road off on the Pacific Coast Freeway on a HOG w/ Reaper playing......as the episode ended....... Worth checking out...... Beautiful As A Foot D From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Mon Oct 28 03:39:44 2002 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:39:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: Hallo zusammen... Wasn't aware 'till now (what good does this do me? And of course, the European leg was this summer, so now I've managed to miss them on both continents) about this LPD tour of the US. Much of it has already passed, hope you didn't miss the opportunity those of you in the eastern part. "The support act will be Origami Galaktika from Norway." Anybody know these folks? I like the name at least. Remainder - LPD US tour (as always, confirm their actual presence!) October 29: MILWAUKEE/ Rave October 30: MINNEAPOLIS/ First Avenue October 31: CHICAGO/ Double Door November 1: ST.LOUIS/ Galaxy November 2: KANSAS CITY/ The Hurricane November 4: AUSTIN/ Stubb's Bar November 5: HOUSTON/ Engine Room November 6: DALLAS/ Gypsy Tea Room November 8: DENVER/ Bluebird Theater November 9: DENVER/ Bluebird Theater (Different LPD set + Edward Ka-Spel solo) November 11: SALT LAKE CITY/ X-Scape November 14: WEST HOLLYWOOD/ The Key Club November 15: SAN FRANCISCO/ Slim's November 17: PORTLAND/ Berbati's Pan November 18: SEATTLE/ Graceland En guete...Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Who have replaced Ryan Moore and Martijn de Kleer in the Dots? From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Oct 28 04:10:32 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:40:32 +1030 Subject: Synthesiser question Message-ID: Yeah you can buy straight out midi keyboards that you plug into a midi controlled sound module or even your computer. Emagic is making some very nice software with classic analog synth sounds etc as is Steinberg. I believe we'll see tons more products over the next year or so. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Synthesiser question > Kinda related question I have.... Anyone want to recomend a good midi > keyboard? I don't think I want anything exotic with its own samples, > just a basic keyboard. Are there midi devices that are not keyboards? > > Chris From neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM Mon Oct 28 05:03:26 2002 From: neil.shilladay at MICROLISE.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:03:26 +0000 Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics Message-ID: I always thought the lyrics were "Life's so ordinary, its so obscene" but maybe thats just me. :o) Great song. Cheers Neil. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Any views or opinions presented in this Email message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Microlise Group unless otherwise specifically stated. Email communications are not necessarily secure and therefore the Microlise Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, please notify Microlise immediately. Microlise Group Limited +44 (0)1773 537000 From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Mon Oct 28 05:04:23 2002 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Burg Herzberg Message-ID: Hi Folks... Was just (once again) checking at www.thinkprogressive.de to see if Amon Duul II tour was announced (again, no dice), and I saw a long list of things in Kalle's mail order stock that are on sale (perhaps this sale isn't new, but I'd never really taken notice of it before). So there are lots of interesting things there for just 7 Euros apiece and such. But re: Hawkwind, there are, offered at the bottom of the page, videos of Burg Herzberg festivals of the past, from 1996-2001. (I can't figure out how much they are asking for these ones specifically, and whether they are just one tape per event (which then *can't* include all the sets of all the bands, even if recorded at 6 hr. length w/ poorer quality)). I can't remember what year Hawkwind played (just one track from that show appeared on the BH#1 compilation, and that was Love in Space IIRC), but I'm guessing it was 1997, 'cause that particular tape is 'ausverkauft' (sold out)! Someone please confirm this, and if anyone has this tape, I'd be interested in opinions as to its quality (of picture/sound), quality (of 'view,' i.e., multi-camera), and setlist of HW's performance. And who else appears on this tape. (Presumably it was done in PAL only, which is another problem.) That's all...Grakkl (FAA) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 28 06:37:31 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:37:31 GMT Subject: HW: Right To Decide lyrics In-Reply-To: David Blair's message of Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:17:24 +0000 Message-ID: David Blair writes: > >> >Im a digital citizen safe in my room > >> >I've got my video to relieve the gloom > >> >minds on a circuit with the news on the screen > >> >lifes a no go area and its so obscene > > I thought that was 'love's a no-go area', not 'life's a no-go area' "Life's a no go area" fits better with the idea of someone shut in their room with video. FoFP From keith.henderson at PSI.CH Mon Oct 28 07:01:48 2002 From: keith.henderson at PSI.CH (Henderson Keith) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:01:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: more Circle/AMT dates Message-ID: Hey Folks... Fo those in the area of these places, here's another chance to see either/both Circle and Acid Mothers...Grakkl (FAA) Circle concert dates: 28.11 - Giessen / Domizil (GER) 30.11 - Liege / La Zone (BEL) 04.12 - W?rgl / Komma (AUT) 05.12 - Fautenbach / TBA (GER) 06.12 - W?rzburg / Cafe Kairo (GER) Circle + Acid Mothers Temple - Finland tour !!! 06.11 - Pori / Kino 07.11 - Turku / S??t?m? 10.11 - Oulu / 45 Special 12.11 - Helsinki / Tavastia 13.11 - Tampere / Klubi 14.11 - TBA 15.11 - Jyv?skyl? / Lutakko 16.11 - TBA From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Oct 28 08:17:05 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:17:05 -0500 Subject: HW: London Space Rock Festival Message-ID: The London Space Rock Festival happens at the Astoria on December 28. The bill features Hawkwind, Mister Quimby's Beard, Harvey Bainbridge, Spacehead and Litmus, Tickets cost ?17.50 in advance, and doors open at 12.30pm. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Oct 28 09:15:50 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:15:50 -0500 Subject: HW: The Warlocks are Hawkind inspired In-Reply-To: <20021027215524.3111.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: roger wrote: > Has anybody heard the music of the Warlocks. > Everyone is commenting how they sound like > Early Hawkwind and other cool 70's bands. I picked-up their new "Phoenix EP" a while back. There's some psychedelic pop tunes (emphasis on the psychedelic) and some long jams. Hawkwind wasn't the first band I thought of when listening to it, but there are some similarities, i.e. The Warlocks have a raw psych sound with some spacey bits, especially during their jams. Unfortunately, I've haven't been able to catch them live even though they've come to my town twice so far. :-( Brian From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Oct 28 09:25:19 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:25:19 -0500 Subject: BOC: Reaper on Six Feet Under In-Reply-To: <000901c27e43$fe5cd300$e7428118@se1.client2.attbi.com> Message-ID: DRider wrote: > On the most recent episode of HBO's "Six Feet Under" > "Don't Fear The Reaper" was featured quite prominently. > This was a studio version, but definitely not the original. > > So was this version a remix, remaster or a completely new version? It could be the version the band re-recorded for the Cult Classics album. My local classic rock station plays this version now instead of the original. There are quite a few subtle and not-so-subtle (the solo) differences fans of the song can pick up on. Most casual rock radio fans probably don't notice a difference. Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:28:27 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:28:27 EDT Subject: BOC :LDN DVD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just got to view the DVD for the first time this weekend. Overall pretty good production. Some nice closeups of BD's fretboard work. I've been needling AL a bit on list lately for his guitar solos, but I'll go on record here that his solo in LDoM is excellent! And long. Kind of cool they let the song stretch out like that on a video... We were talking some about DM's choice of instruments. On the DVD, I believe he plays nothing but Jazz basses. Most of the tunes are done on a black, all maple neck Jazz, with a black pickguard. On a couple of tunes, it might be one with a white pickguard, otherwise identical. And he rips on everything! theo From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Mon Oct 28 09:52:32 2002 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:52:32 -0700 Subject: The Warlocks are Hawkwind inspired In-Reply-To: <20021027215524.3111.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've heard them on the radio, got one of their cd's; they've got a great 70's psychedelic sound. They been here in Santa Fe 3 times this year, so far, and I've managed to miss them every time! Darn, drat and phooey. Mark -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Allen Shaw Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 2:55 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: The Warlocks are Hawkind inspired Has anybody heard the music of the Warlocks. Everyone is commenting how they sound like Early Hawkwind and other cool 70's bands. Warlock web site is at http://www.thewarlocks.com/ has anybody seen the albums in shops? --roger __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Oct 28 11:15:53 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:15:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Black NASA Message-ID: Has anyone heard these guys? I saw they're on a bill with some Rubric Records bands, was intrigued by the name and checked out their label's site. Apparently, Chris Kosnik from The Atomic Bitchwax is in the band. Their RealAudio snippet is pretty rockin' in the same vein as Bitchwax, Monster Magnet, etc. Check it out: http://www.teepeerecords.com/blacknasa/ Brian From djsatan23 at SPACECENTRAL11.FSNET.CO.UK Mon Oct 28 11:52:38 2002 From: djsatan23 at SPACECENTRAL11.FSNET.CO.UK (djsatan23) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:52:38 -0000 Subject: HW: London Space Rock Festival Message-ID: this is incorrect. the festival is not happening until next year now. please always check mission control first.!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Rocker" To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: HW: London Space Rock Festival The London Space Rock Festival happens at the Astoria on December 28. The bill features Hawkwind, Mister Quimby's Beard, Harvey Bainbridge, Spacehead and Litmus, Tickets cost ?17.50 in advance, and doors open at 12.30pm. From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Oct 28 13:42:55 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:42:55 -0500 Subject: HW: Space Rock Festival Message-ID: Hi all... the earlier post on here re: the "Space Rock Festival" is INCORRECT and is NOT from an an official source. The band is planning a gig of this nature, but it will not be until sometime next year. Please ONLY reguard information from Mission Control as being correct ! Rik From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Oct 28 10:35:03 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:35:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Burg Herzberg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Hawkwind played the Burg Herzberg Festival on 21.07.1996 (I was there) I know that an official Video exists which is about 20-30 minutes long. I have got this video which includes a couple pieces of songs (not Love In Space from the CD) the band performed this evening. Unfortunately I do not know if this video is identical with the video which is offered by Kalle Becker If someone is interested: I've got a selfmade complete video (VHS/PAL) from the HAWKWIND performance cheers Bernhard At 11:04 28.10.2002 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Folks... > >Was just (once again) checking at www.thinkprogressive.de to see if Amon >Duul II tour was announced (again, no dice), and I saw a long list of things >in Kalle's mail order stock that are on sale (perhaps this sale isn't new, >but I'd never really taken notice of it before). So there are lots of >interesting things there for just 7 Euros apiece and such. But re: >Hawkwind, there are, offered at the bottom of the page, videos of Burg >Herzberg festivals of the past, from 1996-2001. (I can't figure out how >much they are asking for these ones specifically, and whether they are just >one tape per event (which then *can't* include all the sets of all the >bands, even if recorded at 6 hr. length w/ poorer quality)). I can't >remember what year Hawkwind played (just one track from that show appeared >on the BH#1 compilation, and that was Love in Space IIRC), but I'm guessing >it was 1997, 'cause that particular tape is 'ausverkauft' (sold out)! >Someone please confirm this, and if anyone has this tape, I'd be interested >in opinions as to its quality (of picture/sound), quality (of 'view,' i.e., >multi-camera), and setlist of HW's performance. And who else appears on >this tape. (Presumably it was done in PAL only, which is another problem.) > >That's all...Grakkl (FAA) > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Oct 28 17:55:06 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:25:06 +1030 Subject: HW: Burg Herzberg Message-ID: This sounds interesting to me Bernhard! Tell me more please? :-) Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:05 AM Subject: Re: HW: Burg Herzberg > Hi > > Hawkwind played the Burg Herzberg Festival on 21.07.1996 (I was there) > > I know that an official Video exists which is about 20-30 minutes long. > I have got this video which includes a couple pieces of songs (not Love In > Space from the CD) the band performed this evening. > > Unfortunately I do not know if this video is identical with the video > which is offered by Kalle Becker > > If someone is interested: I've got a selfmade complete video (VHS/PAL) from > the > HAWKWIND performance > > > cheers > Bernhard > > > > > At 11:04 28.10.2002 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi Folks... > > > >Was just (once again) checking at www.thinkprogressive.de to see if Amon > >Duul II tour was announced (again, no dice), and I saw a long list of things > >in Kalle's mail order stock that are on sale (perhaps this sale isn't new, > >but I'd never really taken notice of it before). So there are lots of > >interesting things there for just 7 Euros apiece and such. But re: > >Hawkwind, there are, offered at the bottom of the page, videos of Burg > >Herzberg festivals of the past, from 1996-2001. (I can't figure out how > >much they are asking for these ones specifically, and whether they are just > >one tape per event (which then *can't* include all the sets of all the > >bands, even if recorded at 6 hr. length w/ poorer quality)). I can't > >remember what year Hawkwind played (just one track from that show appeared > >on the BH#1 compilation, and that was Love in Space IIRC), but I'm guessing > >it was 1997, 'cause that particular tape is 'ausverkauft' (sold out)! > >Someone please confirm this, and if anyone has this tape, I'd be interested > >in opinions as to its quality (of picture/sound), quality (of 'view,' i.e., > >multi-camera), and setlist of HW's performance. And who else appears on > >this tape. (Presumably it was done in PAL only, which is another problem.) > > > >That's all...Grakkl (FAA) > > From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Oct 28 18:25:25 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:55:25 +1030 Subject: HW Message-ID: Arin, could you contact me offlist. I dont have your email address on my work computer. Cheers Michael B From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Oct 28 22:14:18 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:18 -0500 Subject: OFF/HW: Legendary Pink Dots In-Reply-To: ; from keith.henderson@PSI.CH on Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:39:44AM +0100 Message-ID: On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:39:44AM +0100, Henderson Keith wrote: > [...] this LPD tour of the US. Much of it has already passed, > hope you didn't miss the opportunity those of you in the eastern part. Even better -- we (General Chaos) were lucky enough to do visuals for them in Toronto (it helps that a friend of mine is a rabid Dots fan/kollector, and was able to open some doors). A couple of pix here: http://www.litany.net/ (in the main frame, look for the entry for Oct. 9). (Damn, two computer guys and we still don't have our own web site. Sheesh!) Some of the Dots seem to be into Hawkwind. I didn't talk to them enough to find out whether they're serious fans -- first date on the tour, so nobody had too much time to gab -- but my HW T-shirt got a couple of comments. What's more, their sound guy, Ray, mixed the HawkXMas show at the Astoria in 2000 -- the very one whose T-shirt I was wearing; too cool! -- and the resulting Yule Ritual CD. I was glad to be able to finally compliment him on that gig's stellar mix. (FWIW, he says the CD was taken pretty much straight from the board -- can't recall exactly how he put it, but I think that's the gist). His work for the Pink Dots was just as excellent. Despite their busyness, when I crawled out from behind Niels's setup where I'd been plugging in a strobe, he took a minute to brag about his old 70s analog synthesizer or post-processor or something that he plays his flute through. Doug, what *is* that thing? I'm pretty sure he called it a "flute synthesizer", so unless he was oversimplifying a bit for the yokel, it must have some kind of pitch-to-voltage circuit as its input. Whatever it is, I guess it's pretty important to the show, and pretty irreplaceable. "Nobody touches this but me!" he intoned. (Like Bugs Bunny, I was sorely tempted to respond by reaching out and touching a fingertip to the thing, but I managed to resist :-) Indeed, sound check was the first time any of their gear had been played since it got shipped over from Europe, so they were a bit nervous of shipping damage, and I guess Niels was especially so about his flute synth. There was one glitch (not with that; phew), but they managed to straighten everything out before showtime. > "The support act will be Origami Galaktika from Norway." > Anybody know these folks? I like the name at least. Just one guy, IIR. What did he call the style? "Arctic" I think. I'm trying to remember what it was like, but par usuel, I was too busy doing stuff. Here's how someone named Muffy wrote it up: > First, the opening band: Origami Galactika. I enjoyed the hell > out of it, and I'm grateful for it's high volume as it drowned > out much of the audience chit-chat. He might be classed in the > school of "minimal and esoteric knob-twiddling to large effect" > noise ambience: lots of equipment that couldn't be seen, a man > with oddly testicular facial hair tweaking knobs to facilitate > the general blowing off of heads, and eardrum-shattering > phase-shifted drones. Did I mention ambient loops sent through > effects processors and filters, sounds of subways and rain, and > a deep and penetrating bass throb? A significant part of his > sound mastery seemed to involve mini-discs. Near the end of the > set he sawed on a guitar like a maniac, providing a wonderfully > musical end to an otherwise noisy show. I liked! That's from http://www.dazzled.com/dangermuff/n_dots.html, which goes on to give the Dots a pretty witty review too. Look for the photo of Phil, aka Silverman, and the rats-nets of cables coming out of the back of his equipment rack. That glitch I mentioned? Yup, that's where it was. Scary! Flaky monitor-out connector, or maybe the cable. Dunno; they finally tracked it down while we were at dinner. Back to Keith: > P.S. Who have replaced Ryan Moore and Martijn de Kleer in the Dots? Nobody's replaced Ryan. There was some discussion among the fans I talked to as to whether that was a problem, but they seemed to conclude that it wasn't, despite their worries going in. I thought the band were fine; but then, I didn't realize there was "supposed" to be a drummer until afterwards. Martijn's back. I don't know the history or politics, but he was on stage in Toronto. I'm glad; I loved his playing. Besides guitar, mandolin, and violin, I infer that he took over bass duties from Ryan. Their set was mostly pretty mellow -- too much so for my taste -- but they cut loose toward the end. Best songs: "Lisa Goes Surfing", for the great mandolin part from Martijn, and especially "The Brighter Star". Pure instrumental blanga, that one! Martijn shone again, this time on violin -- brighter star indeed. I was dancing away behind my overhead, jamming along with them on the strobes, when I glanced over and saw Ray bopping too, behind the sound board -- so at least two out of three Hawkwind fans grooved on that song. I never asked Steve what he thought, but I rather suspect it was unanimous :-) MPEG's of both songs -- from a different gig, alas -- are at http://nyxxo.free.fr/Music/music.htm. BTW, if you're a Pink Dots fan, check out the new "Love and Loud Colors" lyric book. The design, layout, etc. are very nicely done. Lots of old wood cuts and alchemical drawings and stuff, with the text stripped out and replaced with song-lyric fragments (trying to duplicate the original fonts, of course). Visual sampling :-) I'm not really a fan (though if they start doing more stuff like The Brighter Star that may well change :-), so I can't comment on song choice etc. But I was tempted to buy a copy anyway, just because Kirsten did such beautiful work on it. In summary, a fun time was had by all! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The acronym for "the powers that be" differs by only one letter from that for "the pointy-haired boss". From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Oct 29 06:40:33 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:40:33 -0500 Subject: HW: London Space Rock Festival Message-ID: The information came directly from Totalrock. I have no idea who provided the original info. SAH On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:52:38 -0000, djsatan23 wrote: >this is incorrect. the festival is not happening until next year now. please >always check mission control first.!!!!!! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "The Rocker" >To: >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:17 PM >Subject: HW: London Space Rock Festival > > >The London Space Rock Festival happens at the Astoria on December 28. The >bill features Hawkwind, Mister Quimby's Beard, Harvey Bainbridge, Spacehead >and Litmus, Tickets cost ?17.50 in advance, and doors open at 12.30pm. From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Oct 29 06:47:00 2002 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:47:00 -0500 Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/27/02 1:39 PM, "Mike Montfort" wrote: > Well myself for one. Brain Surgeons are nice and all that but they just > don't have the impact of BOC. And myself for another. Mike Montfort is nice and all but he has nowhere near the impact of Jason Scruton! ;-) DVD to follow. Al From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Oct 29 06:46:11 2002 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (albert bouchard) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:46:11 -0500 Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/27/02 1:39 PM, "Mike Montfort" wrote: > Well myself for one. Brain Surgeons are nice and all that but they just > don't have the impact of BOC. And myself for one two too (tutu). Mike Montfort is nice and all but he has nowhere near the impact of Jason Scruton! ;-) DVD to follow. Al From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Oct 29 07:17:53 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:17:53 -0500 Subject: BOC: "we know Albany is serious about rocknroll!" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >And myself for one two too (tutu). Touche! >Mike Montfort is nice and all but he has >nowhere near the impact of Jason Scruton! ;-) DVD to follow. >Al hehehehe. that's a fun thing to wake up n' read. Thanks! There's really a DVD in the works?? awesome! Is it going to be of tBS? the helen wheels show? an aside- I'm on a mailing list where someone was admonishing another for a joke by typing,"That's cause for someone to come rapping on your door that you really don't want rapping." I reckon he's talking about Vanilla Ice, I hear he's done with his tour of the Jillian's Sports bar franchise. now THAT's a Long Day's Night. Jason From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Oct 29 09:14:07 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:14:07 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: St. Vitus Dancer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Al wrote: > And myself for one two too (tutu). Mike Montfort is nice and all but he has > nowhere near the impact of Jason Scruton! ;-) DVD to follow. > Al Anyone who has seen the man dance can attest to that! No one lets go (no pun intended) like J. :-) I'll also agree about the performance of Siege. Performed as a three-piece it's all frantic energy and everybody wailing for all they're worth. When you also take into account that at a Brain Surgeons gig you're standing about 4' from the maelstrom, THAT'S impact.... Brian From djsatan23 at SPACECENTRAL11.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Oct 29 10:33:32 2002 From: djsatan23 at SPACECENTRAL11.FSNET.CO.UK (djsatan23) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:33:32 -0000 Subject: HW: London Space Rock Festival Message-ID: I think the precedent here is, it ain't confirmed until it's announced from Mission Control, however "direct" it seems, Mission Control is the only reliable source for Hawknews. Ta! ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Rocker" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Re: HW: London Space Rock Festival The information came directly from Totalrock. I have no idea who provided the original info. SAH On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:52:38 -0000, djsatan23 wrote: >this is incorrect. the festival is not happening until next year now. please >always check mission control first.!!!!!! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "The Rocker" >To: >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:17 PM >Subject: HW: London Space Rock Festival > > >The London Space Rock Festival happens at the Astoria on December 28. The >bill features Hawkwind, Mister Quimby's Beard, Harvey Bainbridge, Spacehead >and Litmus, Tickets cost ?17.50 in advance, and doors open at 12.30pm. From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Oct 29 11:41:21 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:41:21 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Dancer Message-ID: Gordy, you can verify that it was her by looking in the book 'This is Hawkwind Do Not Panic'. I am sure that it contains a picture of her. Alastair. On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:43:02 +0200, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: >Hi Gordy > > >I think her name was RENEE > > > >cheers >Bernhard > > > >At 07:28 26.10.2002 -0400, you wrote: >>Ok guys'n'gals this is a real long shot but I want to know the following. >>On the Space Ritual tour Hawkwind had 2 female dancers with them. One was >>Stacia of course but I want to know the name of the other dancer. She was >>American, I think, and blond but that's about all I can tell you. I know it >>was a long time ago but someone must know. >> >>I met her after the gig at Derby's Kings Hall and we chatted for quite a >>while but I fogot to ask her name and it's been bugging me for all these >years. >> >> >>Gordy. xxx >> From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Tue Oct 29 11:43:05 2002 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:43:05 CST Subject: BOC: Reaper on Six Feet Under In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:00:07 CST." <200210291000.FAA01789@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Brian Halligan writes of DFTR: >My local classic rock station plays this version now instead of the original. >There are quite a few subtle and not-so-subtle (the solo) differences fans >of the song can pick up on. Most casual rock radio fans probably don't >notice a difference. The main commercial classic rock station here plays a butchered version which has no solo at all. Considering the number of commercials they air, I guess _something_ had to go. (Golly gee, thanks ClearChannel!) m@ +-mbraun at urbana.css.mot.com-+--Experiments that failed too many times -----BOC+ | Matt Braun -- Motorola, | Transformations that were too hard to find | |Urbana/Chmpgn Design Centre| Poison's in my bloodstream, poison's in my pride| +Simulation Technology Team-+--- I'm after rebellion--I'll settle for lies. --+ From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Oct 29 11:42:18 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:42:18 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Dancer Message-ID: Doesn't Nik Turner mention her at the end of one of the live shows on one of the albums? -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Sumner To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 29/10/02 16:41 Subject: Re: Hawkwind Dancer Gordy, you can verify that it was her by looking in the book 'This is Hawkwind Do Not Panic'. I am sure that it contains a picture of her. Alastair. On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:43:02 +0200, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: >Hi Gordy > > >I think her name was RENEE > > > >cheers >Bernhard > > > >At 07:28 26.10.2002 -0400, you wrote: >>Ok guys'n'gals this is a real long shot but I want to know the following. >>On the Space Ritual tour Hawkwind had 2 female dancers with them. One was >>Stacia of course but I want to know the name of the other dancer. She was >>American, I think, and blond but that's about all I can tell you. I know it >>was a long time ago but someone must know. >> >>I met her after the gig at Derby's Kings Hall and we chatted for quite a >>while but I fogot to ask her name and it's been bugging me for all these >years. >> >> >>Gordy. xxx >> From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Oct 29 12:09:49 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:09:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Burg Herzberg In-Reply-To: <003401c27ed5$0fce3020$33d0223f@studio> Message-ID: Hi Michael At 09:25 29.10.2002 +1030, you wrote: >This sounds interesting to me Bernhard! Tell me more please? :-) 21.07.1996, BURG HERZBERG, FESTIVAL, 110/8 abducted / psi power / awakening / photo encounter / blue skin / steppenwolf / hassan i sahba / space is their / hassan i sahba / sputnik stan / xenomorph / vega / love in space / kapal / aerospaceage inferno / elfin / silver machine / welcome / secret agent They played for about 110 minutes. A great gig. Huge audience cheers Bernhard From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Oct 29 12:36:01 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:36:01 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Dancer Message-ID: Wasn't Renee the one who was double jointed or something? I seem to remember Lemmy making a reference to her in one of his interviews. Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jobson, Eddie" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Dancer > Doesn't Nik Turner mention her at the end of one of the live shows on one of > the albums? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alastair Sumner > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Sent: 29/10/02 16:41 > Subject: Re: Hawkwind Dancer > > Gordy, you can verify that it was her by looking in the book 'This is > Hawkwind Do Not Panic'. I am sure that it contains a picture of her. > > Alastair. > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:43:02 +0200, Bernhard Pospiech > ONLINE.DE> wrote: > > >Hi Gordy > > > > > >I think her name was RENEE > > > > > > > >cheers > >Bernhard > > > > > > > >At 07:28 26.10.2002 -0400, you wrote: > >>Ok guys'n'gals this is a real long shot but I want to know the > following. > >>On the Space Ritual tour Hawkwind had 2 female dancers with them. One > was > >>Stacia of course but I want to know the name of the other dancer. She > was > >>American, I think, and blond but that's about all I can tell you. I > know > it > >>was a long time ago but someone must know. > >> > >>I met her after the gig at Derby's Kings Hall and we chatted for quite > a > >>while but I fogot to ask her name and it's been bugging me for all > these > >years. > >> > >> > >>Gordy. xxx > >> From m.lee-lord at TINYWORLD.CO.UK Tue Oct 29 13:25:12 2002 From: m.lee-lord at TINYWORLD.CO.UK (m.lee-lord) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:25:12 -0000 Subject: HW dancers and Synthy Stuff Message-ID: Great to be back, even if its only in digest mode and only for a couple of days each week. If the Time Brothers want to post to me they can do now or ring me, you've got the number now. The album lists the dancers for SR as Miss Rene, Stacia and Tony Carrera. On the question of synths, I've never used the Fantom so can't comment. I use a Roland MidiVerb which has loads of built in patches and makes some great sounds, it's hooked up to a pretty basic Yamaha k/b. I also run another Yam thru (of all things) a Zoom9000 guitar pedal !!! From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Tue Oct 29 14:51:59 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:51:59 -0600 Subject: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OH my Personal attacks from THE AB.. I am most honored. LOL Go get em Albert! ________________________________ There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. -- Benjamin Disraeli ::->-----Original Message----- ::->From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::->Behalf Of albert bouchard ::->Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:46 AM ::->To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::->Subject: Re: BOC: at alban-ee, watch the DVD, hear the CD! BOC. ::-> ::-> ::->On 10/27/02 1:39 PM, "Mike Montfort" wrote: ::-> ::->> Well myself for one. Brain Surgeons are nice and all that ::->but they just ::->> don't have the impact of BOC. ::-> ::->And myself for one two too (tutu). Mike Montfort is nice and ::->all but he has ::->nowhere near the impact of Jason Scruton! ;-) DVD to follow. ::->Al From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:49:27 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:49:27 -0600 Subject: HW: new concert dates Message-ID: Hey folks, Doing my daily cruise of the MC updates page (http://www.hawkwind.org.uk/up_.htm), I notice 2 new dates added to the tour: 15th Birmingham Academy 16th Bristol Academy I really wish I had more vacation. Arin (likely only going to brighton and walthamstow. hey...anyone else got room in a car for the between brighton, walthamstow drive?) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Oct 29 17:52:48 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:52:48 -0500 Subject: HW: Xmas Tour Detail Message-ID: + + ++ STAR WARRIORS + FULL details of the Official Hawkwind Xmas Tour Dates are now on Mission Control http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/gigs/x2002/info.htm As ever, please disregard any information from unofficial sources. www.hawkwind.org.uk www.hawkwind.com www.hawkwind.info www.hawkwind.biz + + MESSAGE ENDS + From jessica.swart at STUDENT.UVA.NL Tue Oct 29 14:46:40 2002 From: jessica.swart at STUDENT.UVA.NL (Donald en Jessica) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:46:40 +0100 Subject: OFF/HW: Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: > Some of the Dots seem to be into Hawkwind. I didn't talk to them > enough to find out whether they're serious fans -- first date on > the tour, so nobody had too much time to gab -- but my HW T-shirt > got a couple of comments. > In the early '90s, among 3 other members of the Dungeon Dwellers, Martijn de Kleer did apear at an occasion at the Burgerweeshuis in Deventer (Netherlands) calling themself 'The Windmill Warriors' and played about two hours excellent Hawkwind-covers. Donald From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Tue Oct 29 20:16:05 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:16:05 -0000 Subject: BOC: Joe Bouchard on UK Radio Message-ID: Joe Bouchard, along with Neal Smith and Dennis Dunaway, will be guests on "The Record Collectors" show on BBC Radio Shropshire(96FM)and BBC Radio Stoke (94.6FM) on Friday 1st November between 7pm and 9pm. The show can be received as far north as Blackpool and as far south as Bristol! They are scheduled to be on for around an hour in relation to the Show at The Limelight Club in Crewe on the 2nd. You can call the studio during the show on 0845 303 9303 and maybe even get the chance to talk on the air! Si The Alice Cooper Trivia File: www.sickthingsuk.co.uk SickCon1 - Unofficial UK Alice Cooper Convention: http://www.sickcon.co.uk From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Oct 30 07:00:36 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:00:36 -0000 Subject: High Rise from PXR5 CD Message-ID: After finally managing to get hold of a copy of PXR5 on disc, I have listened to it and unless my memory is playing tricks on me, High Rise sounds like different vocals to those that I remember from the vinyl one. Anyone know? Thanks, Eddie. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 30 07:33:26 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:33:26 GMT Subject: High Rise from PXR5 CD In-Reply-To: Jobson, Eddie's message of Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:00:36 -0000 Message-ID: Jobson, Eddie writes: > After finally managing to get hold of a copy of PXR5 on disc, I have > listened to it and unless my memory is playing tricks on me, High Rise > sounds like different vocals to those that I remember from the vinyl one. > > Anyone know? Yep. It's different. I spotted that to my great surprise while doing the Codex: High Rise L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield L 1 a The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] L 1 a Acid Daze Vol. I L 1 a Best of Hawkwind L 1 a Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) L 1 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] L 1 a Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] L 1 b Castle Masters Collection L 1 b Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] 2 PXR5 [LP only] 2 Repeat Performance 2 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] 2 Tales From Atom Henge 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] 3 PXR5 [CD only] 3 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology 4 Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line 5 The Hawklords Live * 1a is a remix of 1 * versions 1,2 and 3 are from the same tour * Version 2 appeared on the PXR5 LP. Version 3 appeared on the PXR5 CD. * 1b the sound of an explosion at the end of version 1 and 1a has been cut out in editing (see British Tribal Music) * This track is listed but not present on The Ambient Anarchists From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Oct 30 07:37:08 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:37:08 -0000 Subject: High Rise from PXR5 CD Message-ID: Superb. Thanks for that. -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 30/10/02 12:33 Subject: Re: High Rise from PXR5 CD Jobson, Eddie writes: > After finally managing to get hold of a copy of PXR5 on disc, I have > listened to it and unless my memory is playing tricks on me, High Rise > sounds like different vocals to those that I remember from the vinyl one. > > Anyone know? Yep. It's different. I spotted that to my great surprise while doing the Codex: High Rise L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield L 1 a The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] L 1 a Acid Daze Vol. I L 1 a Best of Hawkwind L 1 a Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) L 1 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] L 1 a Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] L 1 b Castle Masters Collection L 1 b Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] 2 PXR5 [LP only] 2 Repeat Performance 2 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] 2 Tales From Atom Henge 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] 3 PXR5 [CD only] 3 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology 4 Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line 5 The Hawklords Live * 1a is a remix of 1 * versions 1,2 and 3 are from the same tour * Version 2 appeared on the PXR5 LP. Version 3 appeared on the PXR5 CD. * 1b the sound of an explosion at the end of version 1 and 1a has been cut out in editing (see British Tribal Music) * This track is listed but not present on The Ambient Anarchists From youless at LVCM.COM Wed Oct 30 09:25:46 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Steve Youles) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:25:46 -0500 Subject: High Rise from PXR5 CD Message-ID: I read somewhere that when Virgin (?) issued the CD they inadvertantly used the wrong tape for "High Rise". (FWIW I much prefer the vinyl version.) Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:00:36 -0000, Jobson, Eddie wrote: >After finally managing to get hold of a copy of PXR5 on disc, I have >listened to it and unless my memory is playing tricks on me, High Rise >sounds like different vocals to those that I remember from the vinyl one. > >Anyone know? > >Thanks, > >Eddie. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Oct 30 11:36:18 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:36:18 -0500 Subject: OFF/HW: Legendary Pink Dots In-Reply-To: <002901c27f83$e7067a80$4d766291@xs4all.nl>; from jessica.swart@STUDENT.UVA.NL on Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:46:40PM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:46:40PM +0100, Donald en Jessica wrote: > In the early '90s, among 3 other members of the Dungeon Dwellers, Martijn de > Kleer did apear at an occasion at the Burgerweeshuis in Deventer > (Netherlands) calling themself 'The Windmill Warriors' and played about two > hours excellent Hawkwind-covers. Oooooo, is there tape? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / The acronym for "the powers that be" differs by only one letter from that for "the pointy-haired boss". From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Oct 30 10:21:51 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:21:51 -0400 Subject: HW: Reminder: The One Eyed Bishops & much, much more!! NOVEMBER 9th Message-ID: Hello friends, Please don't forget about the upcoming 'Landing Pad' event at The University of Pennsylvania's 'Rotunda' building, in Philadelphia PA, Saturday November 9th. This is sure to be one eclectic and spacey evening, featuring Radio Eris The One Eyed Bishops Alien Planetscapes The Red Masque Scattered Planets The John Price Trio As for The OEBs we want to remind you of our lineup for this event: Mike Burro: rhythm guitar, vocals Jay Adcock djembe Jim Klinger: acoustic lead & rhythm guitar, jug Steve Miller: washboard Bob Beach: harp & ??? Adam Klein: electrified bass dulcimer, vocals, bones Constance Cook: percussion, dulcimer, vocals Now you should go over to Scattered Planets' website for a double check. If you want an e-flyer for the event, request one from us or SP. www.scatteredplanets.com Cheers!! Mike Burro http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Oct 30 14:50:25 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:50:25 -0500 Subject: High Rise from PXR5 CD Message-ID: Interestingly enough, on the NikWind live version ('Past Or Future', I think), Tommy Grenas sings as on the CD version, not the vinyl version. I prefer the vinyl version, too. If you refer to Mike's message with the Codex entry attached, you'll notice that the vinyl version can be found on several CD compilations, including both Virgin/Charisma comps ('Tales From Atomhenge' and 'Spirit of the Age') and the Griffin '25 Years On' box set. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:25:46 -0500, Steve Youles wrote: >I read somewhere that when Virgin (?) issued the CD they inadvertantly used >the wrong tape for "High Rise". (FWIW I much prefer the vinyl version.) > >Steve From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Oct 30 17:52:11 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:52:11 -0500 Subject: OFF/HW: Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: GREAT review, Eric. Thanks for posting! I may have to check out the Dots when they're in SF in a couple weeks ... On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:18 -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote: >Despite their busyness, when I crawled out from behind Niels's >setup where I'd been plugging in a strobe, he took a minute to >brag about his old 70s analog synthesizer or post-processor or >something that he plays his flute through. Doug, what *is* that >thing? I'm pretty sure he called it a "flute synthesizer", so >unless he was oversimplifying a bit for the yokel, it must have >some kind of pitch-to-voltage circuit as its input. Whatever it >is, I guess it's pretty important to the show, and pretty >irreplaceable. "Nobody touches this but me!" he intoned. (Like >Bugs Bunny, I was sorely tempted to respond by reaching out and >touching a fingertip to the thing, but I managed to resist :-) Hmmm ... I checked their website for photos, and couldn't really find what you describe ... at least I don't think. I *did* notice that one of them is using a Korg MS synth; I couldn't tell whether it's a -10 or -20, but the MS-20 *does* have an external signal processor and built-in pitch -> voltage converter, so he could have been using that (the MS-20 is one of my alltime favorite synths; you can hear one making most of the "noises" on 'Masques 82 Live' and other Hawkwind live recordings in the 81-84 era). MS-20 photo: http://www.synthfool.com/images/ms20.jpg The only actual analog "wind synthesizer" I know of are the EWI/EWV series by Akai (Electronic Wind Instrument = controller, Electronic Wind Voice = synth module), which started production in the 80's and are still available (I believe they're the only real analog synth available from any "major" manufacturer these days besides Alesis, who aren't that major anymore). If he was playing a real sax through some sort of synth, it wouldn't be one of these, since they require a special controller (EWI) plus synth module (EWV). EWI/EWV combo photo: http://www.nose.ag/akaipro.html?/html/akaiprodukte/ewi3020.htm -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From tonym at GIL.COM.AU Wed Oct 30 17:58:18 2002 From: tonym at GIL.COM.AU (Tony Melius) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:58:18 +1000 Subject: Terra Australis Message-ID: Just a reminder to everyone in Australia - more particularly SE Queensland and northern NSW - the Terra Australis Space/Psychedelic/Progressive event is on this Saturday 2 November at The Healer in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley. See http://novymir.com.au/terra and http://novymir.com.au/ozspace for more details. Featured are: Alpha Omega (Brisbane) Alien Dream (Adelaide) Circle of Willis (Sydney) The Space Doktors (Sunshine Coast) Cheers, Tony M http://hawkwind.5u.com From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Oct 30 14:46:06 2002 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:46:06 -0000 Subject: HW: Xmas Tour Detail In-Reply-To: <200210292252.RAA04069@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Evening All As well as these dates I have received my tickets from Ticket master for the Hawkwind on Saturday 7th Dec at Preston Marquee I do hope this is the proper HW it does seem to fit in with the tour schedule do far. Brian -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of Rik Rx Sent: 29 October 2002 10:53 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Xmas Tour Detail + + ++ STAR WARRIORS + FULL details of the Official Hawkwind Xmas Tour Dates are now on Mission Control http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/gigs/x2002/info.htm As ever, please disregard any information from unofficial sources. www.hawkwind.org.uk www.hawkwind.com www.hawkwind.info www.hawkwind.biz + + MESSAGE ENDS + From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu Oct 31 06:29:51 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:29:51 -0000 Subject: Wierd 106 CD Message-ID: Track 5 (Hurry on Sundown)which says it's the 1970 line up with Huw on lead guitar is one of the best pieces of guitar work I have heard from Huw while in Hawkwind. Where was this recorded? Although not my favourite version of the song I actully like the album version and the way it is played live currently, this middle bit is great. From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Oct 31 12:33:48 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:33:48 +0000 Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: boc-l, Let me explain abit my position on Hawkwind and boc-l since I have recently been controversial on this list, people calling me a c*nt and stuff like that. I've been a bona fide Hawkwind deadhead since 1988 with the "Chronicle Of The Black Sword" CD on Flicknife, and was officially initiated deadhead at my first Hawkwind live experience at the Alaska in Oslo, '91. They were a power trio very well captured on the same tour on the "Kings of Speed, Lords of Light" bootleg CD. I have since acquired over 120 Hawkwind CD's and will remain faithful to Hawkwind forever. I just recently had to toss my old Hawkwind/Screaming Lord Sutch t-shirt I bought at the show because it was so worn. Wore an Earth Ritual patch on my army coat for years. Also had to get the Black Sword tour programme too for my Michael Moorcock/Hawkwind archive. I turned onto dothead when I saw the Legendary Pink Dots play Oslo in '97. Particularly fell for "Faces In The Fire", "Asylum", "From Here You'll Watch The World Go By" and "Legendary Pink Box". I first joined this list in 1996 and have been a sporadic contributor ever since. Anyway, just had to a few things off my chest, nazi or no nazi, probably more of a skinhead or a punk or a hippy all the way, either way... a dothead is a dothead is a deadhead, a deadhead, a deadhead... Chr. crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 31 09:37:47 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:37:47 GMT Subject: Wierd 106 CD In-Reply-To: Jobson, Eddie's message of Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:29:51 -0000 Message-ID: Jobson, Eddie writes: > Track 5 (Hurry on Sundown)which says it's the 1970 line up with Huw on lead > guitar is one of the best pieces of guitar work I have heard from Huw while > in Hawkwind. Where was this recorded? Although not my favourite version of > the song I actully like the album version and the way it is played live > currently, this middle bit is great. London 5/11/70 'cordin' to my files.... FoFP From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Oct 31 15:35:45 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:35:45 -0600 Subject: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink Dots In-Reply-To: <20021031173348.10506.qmail@web21208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Funny I always thought that Deadheads were fans of the Dead. ________________________________ We live in a Newtonian world of Einsteinian physics ruled by Frankenstein logic. -- David Russell ::->-----Original Message----- ::->From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::->Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer ::->Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:34 AM ::->To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::->Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink Dots ::-> ::-> ::->boc-l, ::-> ::->Let me explain abit my position on Hawkwind and boc-l ::->since I have recently been controversial on this list, ::->people calling me a c*nt and stuff like that. ::-> ::->I've been a bona fide Hawkwind deadhead since 1988 ::->with the "Chronicle Of The Black Sword" CD on ::->Flicknife, and was officially initiated deadhead at my ::->first Hawkwind live experience at the Alaska in Oslo, ::->'91. They were a power trio very well captured on the ::->same tour on the ::->"Kings of Speed, Lords of Light" bootleg CD. I have ::->since acquired over 120 Hawkwind CD's and will remain ::->faithful to Hawkwind forever. I just recently had to ::->toss my old Hawkwind/Screaming Lord Sutch t-shirt ::->I bought at the show because it was so worn. Wore an ::->Earth Ritual patch on my army coat for years. Also had ::->to get the Black Sword tour programme too for my ::->Michael Moorcock/Hawkwind archive. ::-> ::->I turned onto dothead when I saw the Legendary Pink ::->Dots play Oslo in '97. Particularly fell for "Faces In ::->The Fire", "Asylum", "From Here You'll Watch The World ::->Go By" and "Legendary Pink Box". ::-> ::->I first joined this list in 1996 and have been a ::->sporadic contributor ever since. ::-> ::->Anyway, just had to a few things off my chest, nazi or ::->no nazi, probably more of a skinhead or a punk or a ::->hippy all the way, either way... a dothead is a ::->dothead is a deadhead, a deadhead, a deadhead... ::-> ::->Chr. ::-> ::->crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake ::->speedfreak Front 242: take a walk ::-> ::->Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips ::-> ::-> ::->__________________________________________________ ::->Do You Yahoo!? ::->Everything you'll ever need on one web page ::->from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts ::->http://uk.my.yahoo.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Oct 31 14:52:40 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:40 -0000 Subject: HW: Assassins Of Silence Message-ID: Took a quick drive over to Bicester last night to catch the Assassins' debut gig... Cracking fun it was too, they played about an hour opening the set with Orgone Acculumator followed by Upside Down. The set included quite a few songs that HW don't play these days, Kings Of Speed, Days Of The Underground (did they ever play that live? Bernhard?) and few favourites that they do, Brainstorm (with Ten Seconds... as the intro) and Brainstorm. They had a few sounds problems, the vocals were none too clear, particularly the keyboard player's which were inaudible much of the time (and from I could gather he could hear much in monitor either). Other songs played included LSD (bit ropey to start, but rocked when it kicked in properly), Needle Gun, Spirit Of The Age, Magnu and finishing with an encore of Silver Machine sandwiching 25 Years. Some room for improvement certainly, but a cracking good show, especially for a first gig. And a special mention should go to their lovely dancer who looked like she could have done with a bit more space to strut her stuff. Well worth catching if you get the chance. Nick From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Oct 31 15:01:24 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:01:24 -0600 Subject: HW: walthamstow stuff Message-ID: Hi folks, Still getting details from hotels. eek, but they are expensive around that time period. So far, the best deals have come in from Comfort Inn Vauxhall (on the Victoria Line just south of the thames) and from the Holiday Inn Express in chingford (approx 1/4 mile from the venue, according to Rik.) (Although I'm still waiting on confirmation from the latter, so don't call them yet...) The former is about 60 pounds a night, the latter should be about 50. I'm off away at a conference in Philly next week, so can spend more time harassing hotels in the evening...but my general question: Are folks ok with something up by the walthamstow venue, or do you want to be in central london? Thx, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Oct 31 15:06:59 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:06:59 +0100 Subject: HW: walthamstow stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Arin Thanks again very much for all your help !! At 14:01 31.10.2002 -0600, you wrote: >Are folks ok with something up by the walthamstow venue, or do you >want to be in central london? Me (and I think Rainer and Andreas as well) would like to stay close to the Walthamstow venue Bernhard From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Oct 31 15:32:05 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:32:05 -0000 Subject: HW: walthamstow stuff Message-ID: Definitely near to the venue for me. Thanks again for looking into this, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: HW: walthamstow stuff > Hi folks, > > Still getting details from hotels. > > eek, but they are expensive around that time period. > > So far, the best deals have come in from Comfort Inn Vauxhall (on the > Victoria Line just south of the thames) and from the Holiday Inn Express > in chingford (approx 1/4 mile from the venue, according to Rik.) > > (Although I'm still waiting on confirmation from the latter, so don't > call them yet...) > > The former is about 60 pounds a night, the latter should be about 50. > > I'm off away at a conference in Philly next week, so can spend more time > harassing hotels in the evening...but my general question: > > Are folks ok with something up by the walthamstow venue, or do you want to > be in central london? > > Thx, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Oct 31 16:14:54 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:14:54 -0400 Subject: HW: One Eyed Bishops recording changes/seeking UK London are pub gigs Message-ID: It is with concern that I announce the following. The OEBs will not be recording in Preston, Lancashire until a future date, as our producer/financier/washboard player has taken a poor turn health wise. Our upcoming project will continue, albeit with a few modifications. We will now most likely release first an EP, which will be recorded at 'The School of Rock-n-Roll' in south London. Whatever the case, while our album for Big Paws Records remains on hold, we intend to carry on, with Terry Clemson producing and engineering the material. www.tts.ttfans.com Jay & I will arrive in The UK approximately January 10th and remain till the 15th or 16th. We are seeking gigs on the 11th,& 12th. If you can help, please contact us 'back burner' If you would like to send a letter to our washboard player, 'Rogalski' wishing him good health, I know he would appreciate it, as he will be admitted to hospital for some weeks on Sunday. Rogalski at BigPawsRecords.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Oct 31 16:52:07 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:52:07 +0000 Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: I am a fan of The Grateful Dead as well. My fave three Dead albums are "Aoxomoxoa", "Live/Dead" and "American Beauty". A skinhead or a deadhead, in the 60's and 70's, Hawkwind or Grateful Dead fans were likely either or. Chr. >Funny I always thought that Deadheads were fans of the >Dead. > ________________________________ > We live in a Newtonian world of Einsteinian physics > ruled by Frankenstein logic. > -- David Russell ::->-----Original Message----- ::->From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::->Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer ::->Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:34 AM ::->To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::->Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink Dots ::-> ::-> ::->boc-l, ::-> ::->Let me explain abit my position on Hawkwind and boc-l ::->since I have recently been controversial on this list, ::->people calling me a c*nt and stuff like that. ::-> ::->I've been a bona fide Hawkwind deadhead since 1988 ::->with the "Chronicle Of The Black Sword" CD on ::->Flicknife, and was officially initiated deadhead at my ::->first Hawkwind live experience at the Alaska in Oslo, ::->'91. They were a power trio very well captured on the ::->same tour on the ::->"Kings of Speed, Lords of Light" bootleg CD. I have ::->since acquired over 120 Hawkwind CD's and will remain ::->faithful to Hawkwind forever. I just recently had to ::->toss my old Hawkwind/Screaming Lord Sutch t-shirt ::->I bought at the show because it was so worn. Wore an ::->Earth Ritual patch on my army coat for years. Also had ::->to get the Black Sword tour programme too for my ::->Michael Moorcock/Hawkwind archive. ::-> ::->I turned onto dothead when I saw the Legendary Pink ::->Dots play Oslo in '97. Particularly fell for "Faces In ::->The Fire", "Asylum", "From Here You'll Watch The World ::->Go By" and "Legendary Pink Box". ::-> ::->I first joined this list in 1996 and have been a ::->sporadic contributor ever since. ::-> ::->Anyway, just had to a few things off my chest, nazi or ::->no nazi, probably more of a skinhead or a punk or a ::->hippy all the way, either way... a dothead is a ::->dothead is a deadhead, a deadhead, a deadhead... ::-> ::->Chr. ::-> ::->crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake ::->speedfreak Front 242: take a walk ::-> ::->Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips ::-> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Oct 31 17:17:11 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:17:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: Rallycross in Russia Message-ID: Rallycross in Russia... "Morning Star" - Entombed... ...murdered my mother a hundred thousand times as a speedfreak... ..."The rules say I'm a musician, it's the goof of all times, schoolgirl selling sex on a groove machine..." Chr. crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Oct 31 18:27:30 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:27:30 +0000 Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and The Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: >Let me explain abit my position on Hawkwind and boc-l >since I have recently been controversial on this list, >people calling me a c*nt and stuff like that. I remain knowing of my position at the least. >I've been a bona fide Hawkwind deadhead since 1988 >with the "Chronicle Of The Black Sword" CD on >Flicknife, This was stolen from me at the airport in France last year with a batch of other CD's and personal pictures when visiting my family in New York. Anyone with spare copies of the Flicknife version of this CD for sale or trade pls. contact me. >and was officially initiated deadhead at my >first Hawkwind live experience at the Alaska in Oslo, >'91. They were a power trio very well captured on the >same tour on the "Kings of Speed, Lords of Light" >bootleg CD. Bernhard Pospiech has since kept bugging me for live recordings of this show, of which I can conjure up none. >I have since acquired over 120 Hawkwind CD's and will >remain faithful to Hawkwind forever. I just recently >had to toss my old Hawkwind/Screaming Lord Sutch >t-shirt I bought at the show because it was so worn. >Wore an Earth Ritual patch on my army coat for years. >Also had to get the Black Sword tour programme too for >my Michael Moorcock/Hawkwind archive. Call me hotheaded, but I got rid of a bunch of CD's and memorabilia when Hell's Angels kept bugging me over being a Hawkwind deadhead for all these years, accusing me of being some kind of jew kid out of Australia. >I turned onto dothead when I saw the Legendary Pink >Dots play Oslo in '97. Particularly fell for "Faces In >The Fire", "Asylum", "From Here You'll Watch The World >Go By" and "Legendary Pink Box". Edward Ka-Spel has a comforting voice. >I first joined this list in 1996 and have been a >sporadic contributor ever since. Hope I remain welcome. >Anyway, just had to a few things off my chest, nazi or >no nazi, probably more of a skinhead or a punk or a >hippy all the way, either way... a dothead is a >dothead is a deadhead, a deadhead, a deadhead... Amen. Shave your head or just get a mohawk when all else seems redundant. -Chr. crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Thu Oct 31 19:37:29 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:37:29 -0500 Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink Dots In-Reply-To: <20021031215207.84252.qmail@web21209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Excellent Very Few Grateful Dead fans who are Hawkwind fans. Which surprises me. I had thought that Darren and myself were the only two. Mike _____________________________________________ Good teaching is one-fourth preparation and three-fourths theater. -- Gail Godwin ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer ::Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:52 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: Re: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink ::Dots :: :: ::I am a fan of The Grateful Dead as well. My fave three ::Dead albums are "Aoxomoxoa", "Live/Dead" and "American ::Beauty". A skinhead or a deadhead, in the 60's and ::70's, Hawkwind or Grateful Dead fans were likely ::either or. :: ::Chr. :: ::>Funny I always thought that Deadheads were fans of ::the >Dead. :: ::> ________________________________ ::> We live in a Newtonian world of Einsteinian physics ::> ruled by Frankenstein logic. :: ::> -- David Russell :: :: :: :: ::->-----Original Message----- :: ::->From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List ::[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On :: ::->Behalf Of Amphetamine Embalmer :: ::->Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:34 AM :: ::->To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU :: ::->Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind ::and Legendary Pink Dots :: ::-> :: ::-> :: ::->boc-l, :: ::-> :: ::->Let me explain abit my position on Hawkwind and ::boc-l :: ::->since I have recently been controversial on this ::list, :: ::->people calling me a c*nt and stuff like that. :: ::-> :: ::->I've been a bona fide Hawkwind deadhead since ::1988 :: ::->with the "Chronicle Of The Black Sword" CD on :: ::->Flicknife, and was officially initiated deadhead ::at my :: ::->first Hawkwind live experience at the Alaska in ::Oslo, :: ::->'91. They were a power trio very well captured on ::the :: ::->same tour on the :: ::->"Kings of Speed, Lords of Light" bootleg CD. I ::have :: ::->since acquired over 120 Hawkwind CD's and will ::remain :: ::->faithful to Hawkwind forever. I just recently had ::to :: ::->toss my old Hawkwind/Screaming Lord Sutch t-shirt :: ::->I bought at the show because it was so worn. Wore ::an :: ::->Earth Ritual patch on my army coat for years. ::Also had :: ::->to get the Black Sword tour programme too for my :: ::->Michael Moorcock/Hawkwind archive. :: ::-> :: ::->I turned onto dothead when I saw the Legendary ::Pink :: ::->Dots play Oslo in '97. Particularly fell for ::"Faces In :: ::->The Fire", "Asylum", "From Here You'll Watch The ::World :: ::->Go By" and "Legendary Pink Box". :: ::-> :: ::->I first joined this list in 1996 and have been a :: ::->sporadic contributor ever since. :: ::-> :: ::->Anyway, just had to a few things off my chest, ::nazi or :: ::->no nazi, probably more of a skinhead or a punk or ::a :: ::->hippy all the way, either way... a dothead is a :: ::->dothead is a deadhead, a deadhead, a deadhead... :: ::-> :: ::->Chr. :: ::-> :: ::->crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake :: ::->speedfreak Front 242: take a walk :: ::-> :: ::->Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips :: ::-> :: ::__________________________________________________ ::Do You Yahoo!? ::Everything you'll ever need on one web page ::from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts ::http://uk.my.yahoo.com From michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Oct 31 23:28:27 2002 From: michael_1968 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (Michael Blackman) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:58:27 +1030 Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink Dots Message-ID: My position on this list is on the big black furry couch next to the stereo and the chilled beer keg. AND I have the remote ----- Original Message ----- From: Amphetamine Embalmer To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 4:03 AM Subject: HW: my position on this list, Hawkwind and Legendary Pink Dots > boc-l, > > Let me explain abit my position on Hawkwind and boc-l > since I have recently been controversial on this list, > people calling me a c*nt and stuff like that. > > I've been a bona fide Hawkwind deadhead since 1988 > with the "Chronicle Of The Black Sword" CD on > Flicknife, and was officially initiated deadhead at my > first Hawkwind live experience at the Alaska in Oslo, > '91. They were a power trio very well captured on the > same tour on the > "Kings of Speed, Lords of Light" bootleg CD. I have > since acquired over 120 Hawkwind CD's and will remain > faithful to Hawkwind forever. I just recently had to > toss my old Hawkwind/Screaming Lord Sutch t-shirt > I bought at the show because it was so worn. Wore an > Earth Ritual patch on my army coat for years. Also had > to get the Black Sword tour programme too for my > Michael Moorcock/Hawkwind archive. > > I turned onto dothead when I saw the Legendary Pink > Dots play Oslo in '97. Particularly fell for "Faces In > The Fire", "Asylum", "From Here You'll Watch The World > Go By" and "Legendary Pink Box". > > I first joined this list in 1996 and have been a > sporadic contributor ever since. > > Anyway, just had to a few things off my chest, nazi or > no nazi, probably more of a skinhead or a punk or a > hippy all the way, either way... a dothead is a > dothead is a deadhead, a deadhead, a deadhead... > > Chr. > > crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake > speedfreak Front 242: take a walk > > Nutrition Facts: Agurknytt: Mr. Chips > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Oct 27 04:12:01 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:12:01 -0000 Subject: HW: BBC Tardis court case Message-ID: There is a blue at the top of Byres Rd in Glasgow. Has a preservation order slapped on it. Various organisations inc Dr Who Society have helped to preserve it I think. Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 26 October 2002 14:57 Subject: Re: HW: BBC Tardis court case >Nick Lee writes: > >> It seems that the BBC have just won an ongoing court case with the = >> Metropolitan Police over who owns the copyright and/or trademark to the = >> blue police public call box that we all know as the Tardis. The case = >> have been rule in favour of the BBC because, although the Met = >> designed/invented the box, it has been almost entirely identified with = >> Doctor Who for many years, since the call box disappeared from the = >> streets long ago. > >In Edinburgh they haven't disappeared. They've been repainted maroon and >turned into coffee and biscuit kiosks. Pretty good coffee too. > >FoFP >