From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Fri Mar 1 01:32:16 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 01:32:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: test Message-ID: test From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Fri Mar 1 22:38:00 2002 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 21:38:00 -0600 Subject: OFF: test Message-ID: OK you pass. But I can only give 5.4; lacking extra embelishment and excitement. John Majka wrote: > test From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Mar 1 23:07:10 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 04:07:10 +0000 Subject: OFF Message-ID: Anyone on this list playing Runescape? If so how many are members? Maybe we could have our own clan? _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 2 09:09:49 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:09:49 -0000 Subject: HW: All quiet? Message-ID: Does the silence from the Hawkcamp suggest feverish working in the studio? Dave From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 2 09:05:06 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:05:06 EST Subject: HW: All quiet? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/03/02 11:42:19 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > Does the silence from the Hawkcamp suggest feverish working in the studio? > > Dave > I believe there is great enthusiasm where that is concerned and work is indeed commencing From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 2 09:55:33 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 08:55:33 -0600 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Message-ID: Is anyone going to the Ozrics gig at Glasgow on the 15th? Whats King Tuts like as a venue? How easy is it to get to? Has anyone seen them yet on this tour? Rich W From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Mar 2 10:06:29 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 15:06:29 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Message-ID: Not yet, but I'm planning to go to see them at the Soundhouse (haus?) in Northampton on thursday. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Is anyone going to the Ozrics gig at Glasgow on the 15th? Whats King Tuts like as a venue? How easy is it to get to? Has anyone seen them yet on this tour? Rich W From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Mar 2 11:50:35 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:50:35 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Message-ID: Is that this month? King Tut's - not bad, seen Porcupine Tree there many times. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Rich Warren To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 02 March 2002 14:55 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Is anyone going to the Ozrics gig at Glasgow on the 15th? Whats King Tuts like as a venue? How easy is it to get to? Has anyone seen them yet on this tour? Rich W From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 2 11:00:06 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:00:06 -0600 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Message-ID: It's a Friday Night, heh, and it's my Birthday the next day. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave hall" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > Is that this month? King Tut's - not bad, seen Porcupine Tree there many > times. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Warren > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 02 March 2002 14:55 > Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > Is anyone going to the Ozrics gig at Glasgow on the 15th? Whats King Tuts > like as a venue? How easy is it to get to? Has anyone seen them yet on this > tour? > > Rich W From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Sat Mar 2 11:34:24 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:34:24 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Message-ID: I'm going to the Sunderland Gig on the 18th March. Mr Quimby's Beard are playing that one with them, should be one hell of a gig. 2 of my fave bands in one night :-} Tony Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > It's a Friday Night, heh, and it's my Birthday the next day. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dave hall" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > Is that this month? King Tut's - not bad, seen Porcupine Tree there many > > times. > > > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rich Warren > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Date: 02 March 2002 14:55 > > Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > > > Is anyone going to the Ozrics gig at Glasgow on the 15th? Whats King Tuts > > like as a venue? How easy is it to get to? Has anyone seen them yet on > this > > tour? > > > > Rich W > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 2 11:42:14 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:42:14 -0600 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Message-ID: Is that the only date MQB are playing as support? Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Wilson" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:34 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > I'm going to the Sunderland Gig on the 18th March. Mr Quimby's Beard are > playing that one with them, should be one hell of a gig. 2 of my fave bands > in one night :-} > Tony Wilson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:00 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > It's a Friday Night, heh, and it's my Birthday the next day. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "dave hall" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:50 AM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > > > > Is that this month? King Tut's - not bad, seen Porcupine Tree there many > > > times. > > > > > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rich Warren > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > Date: 02 March 2002 14:55 > > > Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > > > > > > Is anyone going to the Ozrics gig at Glasgow on the 15th? Whats King > Tuts > > > like as a venue? How easy is it to get to? Has anyone seen them yet on > > this > > > tour? > > > > > > Rich W > > From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Sat Mar 2 11:52:53 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 16:52:53 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Message-ID: I believe so, as it's the only date mentioned on their website http://www.btinternet.com/~freakyfungi/ I'll try and find out via the MQB discussion group. Tony Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > Is that the only date MQB are playing as support? > > Rich W > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Wilson" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > I'm going to the Sunderland Gig on the 18th March. Mr Quimby's Beard are > > playing that one with them, should be one hell of a gig. 2 of my fave > bands > > in one night :-} > > Tony Wilson > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rich Warren" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:00 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > > > > It's a Friday Night, heh, and it's my Birthday the next day. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "dave hall" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 10:50 AM > > > Subject: Re: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > > > > > > > Is that this month? King Tut's - not bad, seen Porcupine Tree there > many > > > > times. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Rich Warren > > > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > > Date: 02 March 2002 14:55 > > > > Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone going to the Ozrics gig at Glasgow on the 15th? Whats King > > Tuts > > > > like as a venue? How easy is it to get to? Has anyone seen them yet on > > > this > > > > tour? > > > > > > > > Rich W > > > > From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Sat Mar 2 12:12:51 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 17:12:51 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Glagow King Tuts Message-ID: I've just got this (amazingly quick) reply from the MQB discussion group, so I guess the Sunderland gig's "THE ONE" to go to. 2 great bands for the same price as one. > Can anyone from the Quimby camp tell me if the Sunderland gig, is the only > gig MQB will be playing with the Ozrics on their tour. > > Tony Wilson Yes, just the March 18th Sunderland gig, we tried for more, but because of concerns over stage sizes etc, we only got our home town gig ;-( I hope you can make this gig. Hardy From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Mar 2 14:03:08 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 14:03:08 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: Doug Ferguson Memorial Special Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (March 2, 2002): Aural Innovations has just uploaded a new show (see playlist below). Doug Ferguson, keyboard player with Ohm, Yeti, and other bands, died last Saturday February 23rd. He was only 32. Having been a fan of Doug's music and having had the opportunity to meet Doug and see him perform last year with his band Yeti, I wanted to pay tribute to Doug and his music with a special memorial show. All bands who I promised to play will be featured on our next show so that we can dedicate the entirety of this show to Doug's music. Terrastock 5 will take place in Cambridge, MA the weekend of October 11-13, 2002. The lineup is huge, but among the highlights will be Acid Mother's Temple, The Bevis Frond, ST 37, Sonic Youth, SubArachnoid Space, Bardo Pond, and MANY others. For full details go to http://www.terrascope.org. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio show #43 (Doug Ferguson Memorial Special) Ohm - "Drones" (from Voices) Musik Von Tone Float - "Vapourspace Lookinglass" (from Musik Von Tone Float) Vas Deferens Organization - "Pongcraft" (from Zyzzybaloubah) Frankie Teardrop - "Electro-Acoustic Rollercoaster Ride" (from Frankie Teardrop! 7") Yeti - "Two Fingers" (from Things To Come...) Muz - "On The Sun" (from Banana In Portuguese) Ohm - "Molodica Festival May ?98 Austin, TX" (from Raw Ohm) Vas Deferens Organization - "Hors D'oeuvres" (from Drug Bubbles) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sat Mar 2 21:16:58 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:16:58 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind:weird tapes#6 Message-ID: Just got winning bid on a copy of wt#6. curious as to why it vanished from stores and online shops. tim From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 2 21:22:12 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:22:12 EST Subject: Hawkwind:weird tapes#6 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/03/02 12:47:25 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > Just got winning bid on a copy > of wt#6. curious as to why it vanished > from stores and online shops. > tim > Got mine from voice print - ages ago - dunno if they still have any - how much ya spend? Nosey Dwarf From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 2 22:06:03 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:06:03 EST Subject: HW: Space rock: Space does not care Message-ID: Caught tonights broadcast of space does not care... Well worth checking out - fantastic music being played and got some Hawkwind requests happening support it man - its for us Elric From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Sat Mar 2 23:22:08 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:22:08 -0600 Subject: off: does anybody here have an FTP server? Message-ID: Just wondering if we could set something up like Etree. Where shows could be loaded on to an FTP server and downloaded by anybody here. I know a lot of us have DSL or cable now, a CD can be downloaded in a few hours at that speed. I have some good live shows from bands that I think people would like. I'm sure others have stuff too. I'm not on neo-quark, has there been any discussion there? From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 3 03:58:40 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 02:58:40 -0600 Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in Message-ID: Email me if you're interested in anything, and make me an offer at: rich.warren at btinternet.com For Sale: Warrior CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK Live Chronicles 2CD Griffin USA Anthology 2CD Castle UK Solstice Remixes CDS 4 Real UK Area S4 Digipack CDS EBS UK Palace Springs CD Castle Classics UK Chronicle of the Black Sword CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK Best of Friends and Relations CD Emporio UK Friends and Relations The Rarities CD Anagram UK Undisclosed Files Addendum CD EBS UK Mighty Hawkwind Classics CD Anagram UK It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous CD Castle Essential UK Business Trip Live CD Digipack EBS UK In Your Area CD Hawk/Voiceprint UK Collectors Series Vol 2 - Choose Your Masques 2CD - Hawk/Voiceprint UK Church of Hawkwind CD Griffin USA Electric Tepee CD Castle Essential UK Out and Intake CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK Xenon Codex CD Castle Classics UK Space Bandits CD Castle Classics UK Alien 4 CD Digipack EBS UK Friday Rock Show Sessions CD Raw Fruit UK Zones CD Anagram UK 25 Years On Box Set 4CD Griffin USA Mike Moorcock and the Deep Fix - New Worlds Fair CD - Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK Robert Calvert - Captain lockheed and the Starfighters - BGO UK Robert Calvert - Lucky Leif and the Longships - BGO UK From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 3 04:07:48 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 03:07:48 -0600 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Sunderland Message-ID: I think I can make it to the Sunderland Gig, despite traumatised rail lines and things. Who else is going to Sunderland? Whats the venue like? I've decided I can't miss Mr. Quimbys Beard. Rich W From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Mar 3 05:36:59 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 10:36:59 -0000 Subject: off: does anybody here have an FTP server? Message-ID: Neo-Quark has just that service; the Stonehenge 1983 show was the lastest to be uploaded to the ftp server. COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Witt" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:22 AM Subject: off: does anybody here have an FTP server? > Just wondering if we could set something up like Etree. Where shows could > be loaded on to an FTP server and downloaded by anybody here. I know a lot > of us have DSL or cable now, a CD can be downloaded in a few hours at that > speed. > > I have some good live shows from bands that I think people would like. I'm > sure others have stuff too. I'm not on neo-quark, has there been any > discussion there? > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Mar 3 06:21:37 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:21:37 +0800 Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in Message-ID: Hi Rich I would love to put my name down for these Warrior CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK Palace Springs CD Castle Classics UK Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in Email me if you're interested in anything, and make me an offer at: rich.warren at btinternet.com For Sale: Live Chronicles 2CD Griffin USA Anthology 2CD Castle UK Solstice Remixes CDS 4 Real UK Area S4 Digipack CDS EBS UK Chronicle of the Black Sword CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK Best of Friends and Relations CD Emporio UK Friends and Relations The Rarities CD Anagram UK Undisclosed Files Addendum CD EBS UK Mighty Hawkwind Classics CD Anagram UK It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous CD Castle Essential UK Business Trip Live CD Digipack EBS UK In Your Area CD Hawk/Voiceprint UK Collectors Series Vol 2 - Choose Your Masques 2CD - Hawk/Voiceprint UK Church of Hawkwind CD Griffin USA Electric Tepee CD Castle Essential UK Out and Intake CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK Xenon Codex CD Castle Classics UK Space Bandits CD Castle Classics UK Alien 4 CD Digipack EBS UK Friday Rock Show Sessions CD Raw Fruit UK Zones CD Anagram UK 25 Years On Box Set 4CD Griffin USA Mike Moorcock and the Deep Fix - New Worlds Fair CD - Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK Robert Calvert - Captain lockheed and the Starfighters - BGO UK Robert Calvert - Lucky Leif and the Longships - BGO UK From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sun Mar 3 06:35:18 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:35:18 +0800 Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in Message-ID: Ahhh shit Ooops!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in > Hi Rich > > I would love to put my name down for these > > Warrior CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK > Palace Springs CD Castle Classics UK > > Cheers > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:58 PM > Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in > > > Email me if you're interested in anything, and make me an offer at: > rich.warren at btinternet.com > > For Sale: > > Live Chronicles 2CD Griffin USA > Anthology 2CD Castle UK > Solstice Remixes CDS 4 Real UK > Area S4 Digipack CDS EBS UK > Chronicle of the Black Sword CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK > Best of Friends and Relations CD Emporio UK > Friends and Relations The Rarities CD Anagram UK > Undisclosed Files Addendum CD EBS UK > Mighty Hawkwind Classics CD Anagram UK > It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous CD Castle Essential UK > Business Trip Live CD Digipack EBS UK > In Your Area CD Hawk/Voiceprint UK > Collectors Series Vol 2 - Choose Your Masques 2CD - Hawk/Voiceprint UK > Church of Hawkwind CD Griffin USA > Electric Tepee CD Castle Essential UK > Out and Intake CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK > Xenon Codex CD Castle Classics UK > Space Bandits CD Castle Classics UK > Alien 4 CD Digipack EBS UK > Friday Rock Show Sessions CD Raw Fruit UK > Zones CD Anagram UK > 25 Years On Box Set 4CD Griffin USA > > Mike Moorcock and the Deep Fix - New Worlds Fair CD - Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK > > Robert Calvert - Captain lockheed and the Starfighters - BGO UK > Robert Calvert - Lucky Leif and the Longships - BGO UK > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Mar 3 08:53:49 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:53:49 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind:weird tapes#6 Message-ID: $23.50 american tim Michael W Blackman wrote: > > In a message dated 3/03/02 12:47:25 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > > > > Just got winning bid on a copy > > of wt#6. curious as to why it vanished > > from stores and online shops. > > tim > > > > Got mine from voice print - ages ago - dunno if they still have any - how > much ya spend? > > Nosey Dwarf From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Sun Mar 3 09:43:00 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:43:00 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Sunderland Message-ID: I'll be there, that's for sure. I went to see MQB at the same venue shortly before their US tour last year, they played for 2 hours that day and were blinding. The Forum gig was good but MQB's set was way toooooo short that night, I hope the Ozric's allow them more than 40 minutes. As for the venue, it's quite big (night club, rather than pub size), the beer's really cheap (it's on a Uni campus), the bars open till 2 o'clock, and the security aren't over zealous. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 9:07 AM Subject: OFF: Ozrics Sunderland I think I can make it to the Sunderland Gig, despite traumatised rail lines and things. Who else is going to Sunderland? Whats the venue like? I've decided I can't miss Mr. Quimbys Beard. Rich W From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Sun Mar 3 09:56:05 2002 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Sumner) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:56:05 -0500 Subject: HW: Space rock: Space does not care Message-ID: It was good to hear someone who has similar taste in music to mine but can play me stuff I've never heard before. I liked about %90 of the music, especially the Yeti and ST37. Good mix of rock and electronica. Chuck is like the John Peel of spacerock. Keep it up, I'll be listening in next week. Ali. On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:06:03 EST, Michael W Blackman wrote: >Caught tonights broadcast of space does not care... > >Well worth checking out - fantastic music being played and got some >Hawkwind requests happening > >support it man - its for us > >Elric From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 3 11:02:44 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (ripoff dude) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 10:02:44 -0600 Subject: (off) broken speaker paper In-Reply-To: <001f01c1c26a$fbf8e800$44a4e73f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: hey I didn't mean to disrupt the list, anyway, after my friend dropped his and mine he got real picky last night and instead of bitching for ICU he defected himself (already having got that) and said 'lets get it windy in here' ... m From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 3 12:30:22 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:30:22 -0600 Subject: weird Bottom Line LP with Barberella jacket In-Reply-To: Message-ID: check this one out!!! I haven't got the story on it yet but it's worth a look http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA/ Mike and Jill....I am comming.....but look at this one mc From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Mar 3 12:34:00 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:34:00 +0100 Subject: weird Bottom Line LP with Barberella jacket In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mike At 11:30 03.03.2002 -0600, you wrote: >check this one out!!! > >I haven't got the story on it yet but it's worth a look > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OPA-LOKA/ I've got that one !!! Bernhard From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 3 12:49:09 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:49:09 -0600 Subject: (OFF): weird Bottom Line LP with Barberella jacket In-Reply-To: <16hZs8-18UZKiC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: >I've got that one !!! >Bernhard witnesss the punishment that comes from above....oh well...I am glad Spaceritual didn't hurt me when he was in Dallas and I have my life and Dave Brock sounds good on CD anyway...... one thing aging is good for I suppose...... maybe if Colin still has those LP's I can revive oh please god let him... mc ps-Bernhard..please tell me about it From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Mar 3 12:54:05 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:54:05 +0100 Subject: (OFF): weird Bottom Line LP with Barberella jacket In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Mike At 11:49 03.03.2002 -0600, you wrote: >ps-Bernhard..please tell me about it Its the BOTTOM LINE bootleg with a plain white sleeve and 2 seperate papers added. The 1st one is the one you can see on the pic The 2nd one is a red and black paper which shows 2 thick chimneys of a power station. Also the venue, band name and track are listed cheers Bernhard From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 3 12:55:59 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:55:59 EST Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in Message-ID: In a message dated 3/03/02 7:27:26 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > 25 Years On Box Set 4CD Griffin USA 20 pounds? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 3 12:57:09 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:57:09 EST Subject: OFF: Ozrics Sunderland Message-ID: In a message dated 3/03/02 7:36:47 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > I've decided I can't miss Mr. Quimbys Beard. thats right - its hairy and beardy looking - LoL - don't blink or you will miss it From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 3 13:00:02 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:00:02 EST Subject: OFF Message-ID: In a message dated 3/03/02 10:02:11 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU writes: > Ahhh shit Ooops!!!! > - at the computer - really freeaqua - thats gross From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 3 13:06:06 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:06:06 EST Subject: (off) broken speaker paper Message-ID: In a message dated 4/03/02 2:33:19 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > hey I didn't mean to disrupt the list, anyway, after my friend dropped his > and mine he got real picky last night and instead of bitching for ICU he > defected himself (already having got that) and said 'lets get it windy in > here' ... > he dropped his what? and you did it too? if its what I'm thinking I would have opened a window. A double danky is just plain manky From youless at LVCM.COM Sun Mar 3 13:56:39 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:56:39 -0500 Subject: HW: Space rock: Space does not care Message-ID: A pretty good space rock cyber experience as we were chatting on the #hawkwind.org.uk channel while we were listening. Great music Chuck, keep the flag flying! Steve From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 3 13:58:39 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:58:39 -0600 Subject: (off) broken speaker paper In-Reply-To: <11e.cb99290.29b3c00e@aol.com> Message-ID: >he dropped his what? and you did it too? >if its what I'm thinking I would have opened a window. >A double danky is just plain manky no he double (possibly triple or quatriple) dosed Light Specific Data.....I just couldn't be bothered but maybe I should have since there was enough beer.... I've known him since 1982 and we are best of friends and I have never peeped while he pee'd or seen his bum ......it might be scary since he is spotty.... good drinking buddy though when he doesn't fall through the wall m From youless at LVCM.COM Sun Mar 3 14:00:01 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:00:01 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind:weird tapes#6 Message-ID: I got a copy about a month ago from http://www.glitterhouse.de - German web retailer. Good service and cheap. Their website is in English as well as German. Steve From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sun Mar 3 14:15:45 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:15:45 -0000 Subject: HW: Live album info Message-ID: Hi folks I seem to recall some time ago someone posting the source info (venue, date etc.) for each of HW's live albums. I thought I'd kept a copy but can't find it. Could some kind soul please remind me how I can access this info or re-post? Many thanks Dave From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Mar 3 14:40:00 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:40:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Live album info In-Reply-To: <000501c1c2e7$e6fc1a80$0a3a70c2@merlinas> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Mar 3 13:27:23 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:27:23 -0000 Subject: HW: All quiet? Message-ID: yes! ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave hall" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: HW: All quiet? Does the silence from the Hawkcamp suggest feverish working in the studio? Dave From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Mar 3 16:30:30 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:30:30 -0000 Subject: Moonloonies Message-ID: The new Moonloonies has the working title of "Wild Angel". It has seven tracks and is just superb stuff. The hitch is that I have a backlog of things for Dead Earnest, and nothing else can now come out on the label until the CD Services Web Site is up and running. So, if there is any enterprising label out there who wants to put out the new Moonloonies album, contact me and I'll give you the necesary contact details, OK. Thanks alot folk, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" To: Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Cellular Structure > > The new Crum/Moonloonies CD is fantastic - more on that one real soon. > > Ooh. Title, release date? > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Mar 3 19:34:44 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:34:44 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind:weird tapes#6 Message-ID: Sure,now you tell me... tim 8>)... Moonglum . wrote: > > I got a copy about a month ago from http://www.glitterhouse.de - German web > retailer. Good service and cheap. Their website is in English as well as > German. > > Steve From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Mar 3 22:42:27 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 22:42:27 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace "sale" Message-ID: Forwarding FYI...Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Again, my graphics files for "Drop" (amateurish as they may be...oh, BTW I did do some slight improvements to the background icky green colour) should still reside at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/igrastaklenihperli/files ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 3/3/2002: SALE!!! Yes, we've decided to have a FREE POSTAGE SALE here at Eternity's Jest. That means every CD from us is either $5 each for the Spacefolds series(5, 6 or 7), $15 for the Hidden Moon double CD, and $10 for the Quarkspace debut, Live Orion or the National Steam debut. And yes, you folks from outside the US, get 'em for just that much cheaper! And of course, you get a copy of Drop free with every order. This is the REAL DROP too, not the compressed mp3 versions on www.quarkspace.com. Ya know, the one with the HIDDEN TRACK. And dammit, I think we are going to make this a permanent sale. Where else can you get over 210 minutes (3.5 hours) of music rated 4 star and higher by the All Music Guide for only $10 (Spacefolds 6 and 7 with your FREE copy of Drop.) So get yer Quarkspace or tell yer friends to get theirs! We take VISA and MasterCard. Directly from COLUMBUS OH USA!! From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Mar 4 03:18:13 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:18:13 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/2 (and NOTE) Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck NOTE: Tomorrow night (today, for some of you), Monday the 5th of March, at around 5pm PST (8pm EST, 1am GMT, etc.), DJ Mizzen (aka Rashad Salladhudin), KUCR alumnus Diana, me, and possibly others will be airing all kinds of wacky experimental shit between the hours of 5pm to 12 midnight...in honour of Joe D, a long-time inspirational KUCR DJ who is moving on after some 10-12 years of dedicated service of bringing unheard music to the "Inland Empire". Expect good sounds... SDNC 3/2 (In Memory of Doug Furgeson and Pete Bardens) 1.Ohm-- "In a Desert-Alambic/Clash of the Titans" (Voices; Two Ohm Hop) 2.Yeti-- "Interstellar Biplane" (Things to Come...; Two Ohm Hop) 3.Camel-- "Aristillus/Song Within a Song" (Moonmadness; Janus/GTR) 4.Quarkspace-- "Starbridge Freaks II" (Drop; Eternity's Jest) 5.Spirits Burning-- "Drive-by Poetry" (Reflections in a Radio Shower; Musea/Gazul) 6.Hawkwind-- "Infinity" (PXR 5; Virgin/Charisma) 7.Vas Dereferns Organization-- "Hors D'Oeuvres" (Drug Bubbles; Tekito) 8.Tone Float-- "Vapourspace Aquarium" (Musik von...; Timothy's Brain) 9.ST 37-- "New Arrival" (Glare; Helter Skelter/Electric Jug) 10.Shape of the Rain-- "Willowing Trees" (Previously Unreleased Recordings '66-'73; Dreamcatcher/Background) 11.Camel-- "Nimrodel/Procession/White Rider" (Mirage; Janus/GTR) 12.Hawkwind-- "Out of the Shadows" (Space Bandits; GWR/Roadracer/Castle) 13.Igra Staklenih Perli-- "Pecurka" (ST'd) 14.Popol Vuh-- "Kyrie Eleison" (Hosianna Mantra; ZYX/Ohr) special thanks to and Hawk-tunes for Elric, Moonglum, Ali, Laura, Jerry Kranelius and all other Multiverse travellers for their response and involvement... Chuck From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 4 10:28:49 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:28:49 -0600 Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST In-Reply-To: <16hbpy-1tOVWqC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: DEAR ALICE I tried to mail you last night but the mail won't go through... Bill (in OZ) tried just now and had no luck either we wish to invite you back to ICU list I think you got a defective CDR and nobody minds if you prefer regular CD's including Judge (he said so) come back- and don't be angry that I am so silly PLEASE mike c From Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM Mon Mar 4 10:38:28 2002 From: Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 08:38:28 -0700 Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST Message-ID: Yes, come back please. I was looking forward to meeting you. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd., Suite 305 Hoffman Estates, IL 60194 888-252-1526 laura.waesche at cexp.com -----Original Message----- From: mike c [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:29 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST DEAR ALICE I tried to mail you last night but the mail won't go through... Bill (in OZ) tried just now and had no luck either we wish to invite you back to ICU list I think you got a defective CDR and nobody minds if you prefer regular CD's including Judge (he said so) come back- and don't be angry that I am so silly PLEASE mike c From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 4 11:04:08 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:04:08 -0600 Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Yes, come back please. I was looking forward to meeting you. Dear Betty Boop...this is a little embarrasing but I have been dying to hear more about your boss' ass for a LONG time now.....can you please expand as I think you had another interested party as well.... I HOPE your boss is Cherry or Abigail but I suppose any ol' ass will do since it's a little quiet now mc From Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM Mon Mar 4 11:11:38 2002 From: Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:11:38 -0700 Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST Message-ID: Now, which do you want to know about.....my boss (Scott) or Cherry? I'm going to hope it's Cherry. And then there's Roxanne..... Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd., Suite 305 Hoffman Estates, IL 60194 888-252-1526 laura.waesche at cexp.com -----Original Message----- From: mike c [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:04 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST >Yes, come back please. I was looking forward to meeting you. Dear Betty Boop...this is a little embarrasing but I have been dying to hear more about your boss' ass for a LONG time now.....can you please expand as I think you had another interested party as well.... I HOPE your boss is Cherry or Abigail but I suppose any ol' ass will do since it's a little quiet now mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 4 11:21:06 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:21:06 -0600 Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Now, which do you want to know about.....my boss (Scott) or Cherry? I'm >going to hope it's Cherry. And then there's Roxanne..... all of the above (there are women here who might like that) AND...might be handy when I go to the western shop and get more saddle soap.....anyway...you don't need to hide in the dark,,we know you are very smart and no one can chat on-line as much as you while drawing a corporate paycheck... we know the confusing company mail program was the culprit.....so show your face after you take as much time as needed to be graphic, punctual, and discriptive....... Phew! From Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM Mon Mar 4 11:31:49 2002 From: Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:31:49 -0700 Subject: FW: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST Message-ID: no one can chat on-line as much as you while drawing a corporate paycheck... I like to live dangerously.... Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd., Suite 305 Hoffman Estates, IL 60194 888-252-1526 laura.waesche at cexp.com -----Original Message----- From: mike c [mailto:deltawave at METRONET.COM] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:21 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST >Now, which do you want to know about.....my boss (Scott) or Cherry? I'm >going to hope it's Cherry. And then there's Roxanne..... all of the above (there are women here who might like that) AND...might be handy when I go to the western shop and get more saddle soap.....anyway...you don't need to hide in the dark,,we know you are very smart and no one can chat on-line as much as you while drawing a corporate paycheck... we know the confusing company mail program was the culprit.....so show your face after you take as much time as needed to be graphic, punctual, and discriptive....... Phew! From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Mar 4 13:57:13 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:57:13 -0000 Subject: HW: Star Nation Message-ID: Greetings to the BOC listers. Richard Chadwick here, just writing to welcome you all to our new wacky web site - www.star-nation.co.uk Here you=ll find details of things you didn=t even know had details. Most of all, you can hear one of the smokin= tunes from the new STAR NATION studio long player: >THE SILVER AGE= and check out the buzz for yourself. I promise you a hearty hail from the hoary host assembled in the halcyon >Hall of Heroes= - you=ll see when you get there. Electronic enlightenment guaranteed. From mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM Mon Mar 4 14:14:11 2002 From: mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM (Aerospace Age Warrior) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:14:11 -0500 Subject: Star Nation web site In-Reply-To: <009f01c1c3ae$66404b60$b11828d5@lucidzoo> Message-ID: Richard You have a broken link on the third page in from the front for the New Album... Love the first one.. can't wait to get the second. Mike ------------------------------- Appreciation is a wonderful thing; it makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well. - Voltaire ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck ::Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:57 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: HW: Star Nation :: :: ::Greetings to the BOC listers. :: :: :: ::Richard Chadwick here, just writing to welcome you all to our new ::wacky web site - :: :: :: ::www.star-nation.co.uk :: :: :: ::Here you=ll find details of things you didn=t even know had details. :: :: :: ::Most of all, you can hear one of the smokin= tunes from the new ::STAR NATION studio long player: >THE SILVER AGE= and check out ::the buzz for yourself. :: :: :: ::I promise you a hearty hail from the hoary host assembled in the ::halcyon >Hall of Heroes= - you=ll see when you get there. :: :: :: ::Electronic enlightenment guaranteed. :: :: :: :: _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 4 14:30:39 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Ptoof! Phew!) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:30:39 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Star Nation web site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Richard > >You have a broken link on the third page in from the front for the New >Album... > >Love the first one.. can't wait to get the second. > >Mike > >------------------------------- Seconded hello kick-ass drummer dude Phew! From Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM Mon Mar 4 16:57:36 2002 From: Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:57:36 -0700 Subject: HW: Space rock: Space does not care Message-ID: I thought it was great too. I'll continue to listen. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd., Suite 305 Hoffman Estates, IL 60194 888-252-1526 laura.waesche at cexp.com -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Sumner [mailto:als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 8:56 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Space rock: Space does not care It was good to hear someone who has similar taste in music to mine but can play me stuff I've never heard before. I liked about %90 of the music, especially the Yeti and ST37. Good mix of rock and electronica. Chuck is like the John Peel of spacerock. Keep it up, I'll be listening in next week. Ali. On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:06:03 EST, Michael W Blackman wrote: >Caught tonights broadcast of space does not care... > >Well worth checking out - fantastic music being played and got some >Hawkwind requests happening > >support it man - its for us > >Elric From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 4 18:20:11 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:20:11 EST Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST Message-ID: In a message dated 5/03/02 2:11:06 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM writes: > Yes, come back please. I was looking forward to meeting you. > I hope you come back too - I understand you are in a band? Would love to know more about it and hopefully get to hear some one day soon. I too am a musician - and have a passion for recording - the ultimate experience in creativity - bar one. From deltawave at METRONET.COM Mon Mar 4 20:39:06 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Ptoof! Phew!) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:39:06 -0600 Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY In-Reply-To: <27.23b8f3f5.29b55b2b@aol.com> Message-ID: " the ultimate experience in creativity - bar one." (Micahel AD) painting? or visiting the bar? or, cough, erm, that thing they do at night? wots this about a Star Nation shaped CD single? somebodys got it and I didn't see it on the page though I tried to find all the portals Andy? tell me you still have a little box there for me mc wot is it and does it look like a UFO? If so I'll have some From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Mar 4 23:03:55 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:03:55 +1100 Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST Message-ID: Shutup. You make me feel guilty. Every day I look at my beautiful guitars and get pangs of shame for leaving them untouched. This pc takes my playing time every day. I like to play unplugged when I put in my mandatory family time but they even complain there that I am getting louder and and louder. My Lonestar Strat has not seen daylight for two years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:20 AM Subject: Re: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST > In a message dated 5/03/02 2:11:06 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM writes: > > > > Yes, come back please. I was looking forward to meeting you. > > > I hope you come back too - I understand you are in a band? Would love to know > more about it and hopefully get to hear some one day soon. > I too am a musician - and have a passion for recording - the ultimate > experience in creativity - bar one. > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 5 06:32:01 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 06:32:01 EST Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY Message-ID: In a message dated 5/03/02 12:09:07 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > " the ultimate > experience in creativity - bar one." (Micahel AD) > > painting? or visiting the bar? or, cough, erm, that thing they do at night? recording and making music is the above - bar one - which in my opinion is (sexx) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 5 06:36:39 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 06:36:39 EST Subject: (OFF) ALICE/ ICU LIST Message-ID: In a message dated 5/03/02 2:29:46 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU writes: > Shutup. You make me feel guilty. Every day I look at my beautiful guitars > and get pangs of shame for leaving them untouched. This pc takes my playing > time every day. I like to play unplugged when I put in my mandatory family > time but they even complain there that I am getting louder and and louder. > My Lonestar Strat has not seen daylight for two years. > > you outta make a trip over here sometime - when I get the studio 100% back on line and we can jam and record perhaps - and I can actually share some of that hoochie coochie homegrown decriminalised south australian weed From micci at SCI.FI Tue Mar 5 10:06:27 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:06:27 +0200 Subject: HW: tribute to hawkwind Message-ID: Official Finnish Hawkwind Association present: Tribute to Hawkwind Dark Sun, Speedo + special guest Semifinal, Helsinki, Finland, Earth 15.3.2002 Tickets 4 euro Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Mar 5 10:59:47 2002 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:59:47 -0000 Subject: HW-ish: SONIC ROCK SOLSTICE GIG Message-ID: ATTENTON COSMONAUTS & COSMONAUTIES! Salutation M.C.C. proudly presents; Sonic Rock Solstice, Friday 21st - Saturday 22nd JUNE 2002 AT "HAMILTON HOUSE FARM", nr Blackpool (UK) Harvey Bainbridge, Bedouin, Spacehead, and the superb Chaos Illuminaton Lightshow (as seen on last Hawktour). also Gun Law, Doghouse, Streeet Legal. more bands tbc For more details, and updates www.salutation-mcc.co.uk CHRIS- 07974 255 113 MARK- 07947 412 738 e-mail contact at salutation-mcc.co.uk STRICT 500 LIMIT! PRE-BOOK ?10 (Donation to N.A.B.D Bikers With disabilities) From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Mar 5 14:07:29 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:07:29 -0000 Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY Message-ID: Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped mini CD? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ptoof! Phew!" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:39 AM Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > " the ultimate > experience in creativity - bar one." (Micahel AD) > > painting? or visiting the bar? or, cough, erm, that thing they do at night? > > wots this about a Star Nation shaped CD single? > > somebodys got it and I didn't see it on the page though I tried to find all > the portals > > Andy? tell me you still have a little box there for me > > mc > > wot is it and does it look like a UFO? If so I'll have some From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 5 14:34:24 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Spot E. Pic.) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:34:24 -0600 Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY In-Reply-To: <004f01c1c478$ffcb07a0$4d1828d5@lucidzoo> Message-ID: >Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped mini >CD? Yes Keith- I was- nobody really wants to put up with me anymore and who could blame them, and the details were fuzzy until just this morning I am very ashamed of my problems and then the spotty pic peeping when I should have been packing, and I am terribly sorry for what I have done to anybody, including you,,,,and now I pray that if somebody is actually mad enough that they just beat me up, rather than kill... I am feeling strong since an undisclosed fan has got a Hassan for me (NOT the French Mike) (I never paid all the 500 dollars yet, got a spotty pic instead)(we are trying to do both our music rooms in Hassan wallpaper eventually.... I will try to pay you beyond what I delayed you one day (you Starfield and Tonewarp) I am currently tagging on Andy's coat about the Starfield single, but he is playing "hard to buy from" since he proabably even got a bit annoyed (I am kidding Andy) I would love to hear what it actually is if you can be bothered hello to Tone and she is not forskaen just SSSSERIOUSLY delayed by the biggest jerk ever to put Hawkwind in such a high place (I do deserve some credit for introducing this borrowed phrase to the world: "Hawkwind, The Only Band That Matters" (and this does include Richard and all the hall of halcyon heroes, even though he had me in tears at the SD 98) I miss Bob Lennon I wish I could go back and do things differently ps- If you collect vinyl and you don't have Hassan, your collection SUCKS and you should kill yourself as you may never see one now- there is one way out- put all your vinyl up for sale and just go with a digital collection Poopie! Phewie! From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 5 16:31:56 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:31:56 -0600 Subject: (OFF)/STARFIELD SHAPED SHORT PLAY In-Reply-To: <004f01c1c478$ffcb07a0$4d1828d5@lucidzoo> Message-ID: >Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped mini >CD? I've just heard it's double dildo shaped since the non-insane listers won't be seen helping me...(my source left the list as he hated it) having trouble picturing that and don't need a dildo as stimulation in that area has never seemed a real feasabilty from my point of view but I could maybe use the tune so now if I can just think of a seller I didn't piss off m From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Mar 5 16:55:51 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:55:51 -0000 Subject: HW: Voiceprint sampler Message-ID: Not sure if this is old news or not, but the Voiceprint magazine that came through the post yesterday has a free cd, featuring amongst other bands HW's Flying Doctor from the Yule Ritual. There's a very small piece inside promoting the album ('Yule Love Hawkwind's New Album' - ouch). Nick From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Mar 5 17:09:18 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:09:18 -0600 Subject: HW: Voiceprint sampler In-Reply-To: <001401c1c490$855fb020$35180150@yourpnqspyopyu> Message-ID: >Not sure if this is old news or not, but the Voiceprint magazine that came >through the post yesterday has a free cd, featuring amongst other bands >HW's Flying Doctor from the Yule Ritual. >There's a very small piece inside promoting the album ('Yule Love >Hawkwind's New Album' - ouch). > >Nick NICK THIS POST IS BEAUTIFUL....GETS MY VOTE....I AM IN USA WOULD YOU CONSIDER HELPING ME WITH A PLACE TO ORDER IT PLEASE NICK THANKS VERY MUCH MIKE C (is it available thro' voiceprint direct?) Andy?? can you? I guess I better go make the dreaded call to the credit cards PLEASE KEEP ALL REPORTS COMMING..... From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 5 17:08:53 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:08:53 EST Subject: HW: tribute to hawkwind Message-ID: In a message dated 6/03/02 1:36:54 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, micci at SCI.FI writes: > Official Finnish Hawkwind Association present: > > Tribute to Hawkwind > > > Dark Sun, Speedo + special guest Miika, Hope you all a wonderful night!!! Would love to be there. But alas - not possible for me. Have fun!!!! :-) Michael From micci at SCI.FI Tue Mar 5 17:17:18 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 00:17:18 +0200 Subject: HW: tribute to hawkwind Message-ID: Thanks Michael! I?m sure it will be great. Anyone coming? :-) >Miika, Hope you all a wonderful night!!! Would love to be there. But alas >- not possible for me. >Have fun!!!! >:-) >Michael > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Mar 5 17:23:43 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:23:43 -0000 Subject: HW: Voiceprint sampler Message-ID: Don't know if you can order it or not. It came cover mounted with with VP's free promotional mag which I assume I get 'cos I've bought stuff directly from them in the past. May be worth going straight to VP on this one. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: Re: HW: Voiceprint sampler > >Not sure if this is old news or not, but the Voiceprint magazine that came > >through the post yesterday has a free cd, featuring amongst other bands > >HW's Flying Doctor from the Yule Ritual. > >There's a very small piece inside promoting the album ('Yule Love > >Hawkwind's New Album' - ouch). > > > >Nick > > NICK THIS POST IS BEAUTIFUL....GETS MY VOTE....I AM IN USA WOULD YOU > CONSIDER HELPING ME WITH A PLACE TO ORDER IT > > PLEASE NICK > > THANKS VERY MUCH > > MIKE C (is it available thro' voiceprint direct?) > > Andy?? can you? I guess I better go make the dreaded call to the credit cards > > PLEASE KEEP ALL REPORTS COMMING..... From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 5 17:26:54 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:26:54 EST Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY Message-ID: In a message dated 6/03/02 6:05:32 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > anybody, including you,,,,and now I pray that if somebody is actually mad > enough that they just beat me up, rather than kill... > Well, I'm not at all mad at you but my old punching bag was stolen recently from the back yard - so I have been without an outlet for some time..... Miche!!!!!!!!! From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 5 17:33:16 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:33:16 EST Subject: HW: tribute to hawkwind Message-ID: In a message dated 6/03/02 8:48:29 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, micci at SCI.FI writes: > Thanks Michael! > > I?m sure it will be great. > > Anyone coming? :-) > Any possible chance of a video or a recording being done? From novadrive at COX.NET Tue Mar 5 19:17:30 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:17:30 -0700 Subject: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac In-Reply-To: <004f01c1c478$ffcb07a0$4d1828d5@lucidzoo> Message-ID: I just received this yesterday. There's been some discussion about it here: "Wonderful" "Great song" "Can't stop playing it" Forget all that. It's even better than that. Captain Black and crew: Ignore sleep, don't eat, or any of those other distractions. Get the full-length CD out. Yesterday isn't soon enough. KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:07 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped mini CD? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ptoof! Phew!" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:39 AM Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > " the ultimate > experience in creativity - bar one." (Micahel AD) > > painting? or visiting the bar? or, cough, erm, that thing they do at night? > > wots this about a Star Nation shaped CD single? > > somebodys got it and I didn't see it on the page though I tried to find all > the portals > > Andy? tell me you still have a little box there for me > > mc > > wot is it and does it look like a UFO? If so I'll have some From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 6 04:09:35 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (denatured) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 03:09:35 -0600 Subject: (off) imagine Message-ID: imagine what it is like to be an adopted spoiled pet of older owners and to have woken up after 25 years of blotting it out to discover you have become the biggest jerk of "sort of" "known" Hawkwind "fandom"....and comming from a good home have bitten off all these things that (my) red arsenic and anhydrous amonia attacked stupid mind didn't realize my disgustingly cracked flat feet wouldn't deal with when I started cracking up///// that was at 31.....now 37 imagine the burden and the weight......sucks....... anyway,,,,I made the first crown to Kevin Sommmers ......(before Dave's) and if he says STARFIELD single.......then it means STARFIELD SINGLE regardless if I am offended at the poke at myself (total BS , Tone!) anyway....please don't respond to this post,,,,,, please blame Porcupine Tree for playing now and tell Jon I am hoping we can be real friends some day since the only one I play anymore is Stupid Dream and I am actually having to psyche up for an IEM listen even though I have both... please let it be an ass whooping and not anti- a. ant m From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Mar 6 05:49:07 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:49:07 GMT Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY In-Reply-To: Captain Bl@ck's message of Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:07:29 -0000 Message-ID: Captain Bl at ck writes: > Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped mini > CD? Which is all very clever, but difficult to store in CD racks. FoFP From spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM Wed Mar 6 05:51:42 2002 From: spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM (Mr -Dibs) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:51:42 -0500 Subject: HW; SONIC ROCK SOLSTICE/HARVEY BAINBRIDGE/BEDOUIN/SPACEHEAD&OTHERS Message-ID: ATTENTION SPACE CADETS! SEE MESSAGE FROM DANIEL JACKSON FOR DETAILS OF HOW TO GET TICKETS ETC STRICT 500 LIMIT!!!!! DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS SPECTACULAR EVENT! From spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM Wed Mar 6 05:57:43 2002 From: spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM (Mr -Dibs) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:57:43 -0500 Subject: HW; SONIC ROCK SOLSTICE/HARVEY BAINBRIDGE/BEDOUIN/SPACEHEAD&OTHERS Message-ID: IF you wish to contact me directly, the stonedvisionary address is out of action at the moment. please refer to our website, www.spacehead.iwarp.com CHEERS From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Mar 6 06:24:38 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:24:38 +0800 Subject: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac Message-ID: Where can I get this? Can I get it from Keith? Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "KevinSommers" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:17 AM Subject: Re: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac > I just received this yesterday. There's been some discussion about it here: > "Wonderful" "Great song" "Can't stop playing it" > Forget all that. > It's even better than that. Captain Black and crew: Ignore sleep, don't > eat, or any of those other distractions. Get the full-length CD out. > Yesterday isn't soon enough. > > KevinSommers > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:07 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > > > Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped mini > CD? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ptoof! Phew!" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:39 AM > Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > > > > " the ultimate > > experience in creativity - bar one." (Micahel AD) > > > > painting? or visiting the bar? or, cough, erm, that thing they do at > night? > > > > wots this about a Star Nation shaped CD single? > > > > somebodys got it and I didn't see it on the page though I tried to find > all > > the portals > > > > Andy? tell me you still have a little box there for me > > > > mc > > > > wot is it and does it look like a UFO? If so I'll have some > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 6 08:33:57 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:33:57 EST Subject: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac Message-ID: In a message dated 6/03/02 9:57:11 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU writes: > Where can I get this? Can I get it from Keith? > > Cheers > Bill > Andy G's gottem From coral at APORT.RU Wed Mar 6 09:10:42 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:10:42 +0300 Subject: HW: Star Nation e-mail Message-ID: Hi, the e-mail address for Star Nation is starnation1 at aol.com so you can write directly to it. cheers, Alisa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 6 11:28:22 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:28:22 -0500 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace F&R Message-ID: News from the Quarkspace clan... Church of Hed, a psychedelic, experimental electronica outfit, has a few more pieces now available for FREE download at... http://www.mp3.com/churchofhed These are special mixes of some works for the Philadelphia Underground Music and Culture Festival. The pieces are scheduled to appear in some form on the debut Church of Hed CD to be released this summer. Maybe in time for the PUMCF on June 1st?? These mixes are being used in the promo CD for the festival. Philadelphia Underground Music and Culture Festival: Saturday June 1st. Featuring vendors, bands and more. Acts include Land of Chocolate, Persephone's Dream, Church of Hed (featuring former members of Quarkspace) and The Red Masque. Sedgwick, 7137 Germantown Avenue, Philadelphia, PA 19119. $10 for tickets, or $20 for tickets plus T-shirt. Purchase tickets at the door, or order in advance by calling the Sedgwick (215) 248-9229 or ordering through Persephone's Dream web site www.persephonesdream.com. Only 300 tickets will be sold for this event. Thanks for the bandwidth! From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Mar 6 13:26:00 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:26:00 -0600 Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in Message-ID: Mike, yes you can have the box for 20quid plus postage. Just out of interest if you were interested in the two Calvert CDs, Captain Lockheed, and Lucky Leif, I would do those for 5 pounds each in with the box set. I think I'll prolly be selling Warrior to Bill And Cynthia. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:55 AM Subject: Re: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in > In a message dated 3/03/02 7:27:26 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > > > 25 Years On Box Set 4CD Griffin USA > > 20 pounds? From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Mar 6 13:28:56 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:28:56 -0600 Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in Message-ID: Hi Bill, I will happily sell you the Warrior CD, and Palace Springs CD for a total of 15UK Pounds(or equivelant) + postage to wherever you are. Let me know if thats ok and we can arrange it all. Thanks Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:21 AM Subject: Re: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in > Hi Rich > > I would love to put my name down for these > > Warrior CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK > Palace Springs CD Castle Classics UK > > Cheers > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 4:58 PM > Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in > > > Email me if you're interested in anything, and make me an offer at: > rich.warren at btinternet.com > > For Sale: > > Live Chronicles 2CD Griffin USA > Anthology 2CD Castle UK > Solstice Remixes CDS 4 Real UK > Area S4 Digipack CDS EBS UK > Chronicle of the Black Sword CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK > Best of Friends and Relations CD Emporio UK > Friends and Relations The Rarities CD Anagram UK > Undisclosed Files Addendum CD EBS UK > Mighty Hawkwind Classics CD Anagram UK > It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous CD Castle Essential UK > Business Trip Live CD Digipack EBS UK > In Your Area CD Hawk/Voiceprint UK > Collectors Series Vol 2 - Choose Your Masques 2CD - Hawk/Voiceprint UK > Church of Hawkwind CD Griffin USA > Electric Tepee CD Castle Essential UK > Out and Intake CD Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK > Xenon Codex CD Castle Classics UK > Space Bandits CD Castle Classics UK > Alien 4 CD Digipack EBS UK > Friday Rock Show Sessions CD Raw Fruit UK > Zones CD Anagram UK > 25 Years On Box Set 4CD Griffin USA > > Mike Moorcock and the Deep Fix - New Worlds Fair CD - Dojo/Hawkdiscs UK > > Robert Calvert - Captain lockheed and the Starfighters - BGO UK > Robert Calvert - Lucky Leif and the Longships - BGO UK From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Mar 6 13:35:55 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:35:55 -0600 Subject: HW Message-ID: Apologies that should have been offlist, doh, dodgy reply fields. Rich W From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Mar 6 14:40:48 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:40:48 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind:weird tapes#6 Message-ID: hang on a minute - didn;t realise people were still having problems with Weird 6 - we've had copies in for ages and sold the last one today - maybe it won't come through again but we will know next week when we order more - should always try us first, squire. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind:weird tapes#6 > Sure,now you tell me... > tim 8>)... > Moonglum . wrote: > > > > I got a copy about a month ago from http://www.glitterhouse.de - German web > > retailer. Good service and cheap. Their website is in English as well as > > German. > > > > Steve From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Mar 6 14:38:32 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:38:32 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: I hope you are kidding squire - where are you anyway? Not had any demands for CD's from you in a while - don't miss out, coz we've got the "Starfield" shaped disc now, we've got the new "Star Nation" album in 2 weeks or less, the "Star 1" album with limited edition Dave Brock-does-Hawkwind-medley bonus disc in 4 weeks - in fact, it's all stars right now - how weird. Andy G (at CDS Towers - still the kings of space-rock) agcdser at aol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spot E. Pic." To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 7:34 PM Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > >Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped mini > >CD? > > I am currently tagging on Andy's coat about the Starfield single, but he is > playing "hard to buy from" since he proabably even got a bit annoyed (I am > kidding Andy) > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 6 15:08:00 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:08:00 -0000 Subject: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac Message-ID: >From CD Services or from Keith I believe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Re: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac > Where can I get this? Can I get it from Keith? > > Cheers > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KevinSommers" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac > > > > I just received this yesterday. There's been some discussion about it > here: > > "Wonderful" "Great song" "Can't stop playing it" > > Forget all that. > > It's even better than that. Captain Black and crew: Ignore sleep, don't > > eat, or any of those other distractions. Get the full-length CD out. > > Yesterday isn't soon enough. > > > > KevinSommers > > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck > > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:07 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > > > > > > Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped > mini > > CD? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ptoof! Phew!" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 1:39 AM > > Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > > > > > > > " the ultimate > > > experience in creativity - bar one." (Micahel AD) > > > > > > painting? or visiting the bar? or, cough, erm, that thing they do at > > night? > > > > > > wots this about a Star Nation shaped CD single? > > > > > > somebodys got it and I didn't see it on the page though I tried to find > > all > > > the portals > > > > > > Andy? tell me you still have a little box there for me > > > > > > mc > > > > > > wot is it and does it look like a UFO? If so I'll have some > > > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 6 15:14:23 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:14:23 -0600 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) In-Reply-To: <021701c1c547$408fcb80$e8307ad5@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: >I hope you are kidding squire - where are you anyway? Not had any demands >for CD's from you in a while - don't miss out, coz we've got the "Starfield" >shaped disc now, we've got the new "Star Nation" album in 2 weeks or less, >the "Star 1" album with limited edition Dave Brock-does-Hawkwind-medley >bonus disc in 4 weeks - in fact, it's all stars right now - how weird. >Andy G (at CDS Towers - still the kings of space-rock) >agcdser at aol.com mom's got dementia but I think it's alzhheimers and she can't figure out the 2 credit cards anymore..maybe it's her way of saying "snoop doggy dogg get a jobby jobb" I dunno... hold ALL those items and I am going to check it, and if no credit I'll get some on it in a matter of days (no BS) that, and these anhydrously ammoniated flat feet really got me in a jam.... Richard! is this good? (not my feet) can I buy a promo pic direct instead then? Don't fail me on the shaped insomniac (please kind sir).....I gotta have all is that AYERON thing in the above? mike c ps- sorry if I don't condense my writing correctly....I need space...space From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Wed Mar 6 15:20:50 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:20:50 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: Andrew Garibaldi wrote: - in fact, it's all stars right now - how weird. Hey, Does that mean you're stocking Nik Turners fantastic ALL STARS? And...... Stars on 45 Star Trekkin' Starship Trooper er,, better stop now eh - I'll go and wind up the scouser and traveller haters on the Glastonbury chat board. Mark From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Mar 6 15:29:15 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:29:15 -0000 Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY Message-ID: Tch! Tch! Some people are never satisfied etc etc. Fortunately Starfield also produce an album called Return To Earth, which cleverly has a space inside the booklet for storing just such an item... ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped mini > > CD? > > Which is all very clever, but difficult to store in CD racks. > > FoFP From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Wed Mar 6 15:33:19 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:33:19 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: Mike C wrote: > is that AYERON thing in the above? > > mike c > That'll be the STAR1 album. Mark From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Mar 6 16:06:35 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:06:35 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind:weird tapes#6 Message-ID: > hang on a minute - didn;t realise people were still having problems with > Weird 6 - we've had copies in for ages and sold the last one today - maybe > it won't come through again but we will know next week when we order more - > should always try us first, squire. > Andy G. It was listed in the VP catalogue I got the other day so I guess they've got it. Nick From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Mar 6 16:07:21 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:07:21 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: > I hope you are kidding squire - where are you anyway? Not had any demands > for CD's from you in a while - don't miss out, coz we've got the "Starfield" > shaped disc now, we've got the new "Star Nation" album in 2 weeks or less, > the "Star 1" album with limited edition Dave Brock-does-Hawkwind-medley > bonus disc in 4 weeks - in fact, it's all stars right now - how weird. > Andy G (at CDS Towers - still the kings of space-rock) Count me in for a copy of the Star 1 album, please Andy. Nick Lee MK11 1LH From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Mar 6 16:19:03 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:19:03 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: Ooops! CD order should've been off-list. Sorry. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 6 16:34:31 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:34:31 EST Subject: HW: Star Nation e-mail Message-ID: In a message dated 7/03/02 2:20:26 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, coral at APORT.RU writes: > Hi, > the e-mail address for Star Nation is starnation1 at aol.com so you can write > directly to it. > > cheers, > Alisa > What would you like me to write to them about? Maybe I could tell them how great their new cd is.... except I haven't heard it yet........... but I will soon. I know - I'll tell them about the weather in Australia!!!!!! Cool! Thank you! From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 6 16:50:10 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:50:10 EST Subject: HW: (Nearly) Everything Must Go - Tuck in Message-ID: In a message dated 7/03/02 4:54:54 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > Mike, yes you can have the box for 20quid plus postage. Just out of > interest if you were interested in the two Calvert CDs, Captain Lockheed, > and Lucky Leif, I would do those for 5 pounds each in with the box set Excellent - sold!!! So thats 30 pounds + poastage Whats your address and I'll send an International money order asap if that ok with you? Michael From spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM Wed Mar 6 16:54:58 2002 From: spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM (SPACEHEAD) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:54:58 -0500 Subject: OFF: SPACEHEAD SITE UPDATE Message-ID: Our website has just been updated, and you can now sign our guestbook! www.spacehead.iwarp.com e-mail spacehead at spacehead.iwarp.com cheers! From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Mar 6 18:12:03 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:12:03 -0500 Subject: OFF:Motorhead Message-ID: Re-run of Drew Carey show with Motorhead on tonite tim 8>)... From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Mar 6 18:16:09 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:16:09 -0500 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: how about Ginger Baker's `I think that i'm the star(drum solo version)' tim 8>)... Mark Von Bargen wrote: > > Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > - in fact, it's all stars right now - how weird. > > Hey, > > Does that mean you're stocking Nik Turners fantastic ALL STARS? > > And...... > Stars on 45 > Star Trekkin' > Starship Trooper > er,, better stop now eh - I'll go and wind up the scouser and traveller > haters on the Glastonbury chat board. > > Mark From deltawave at METRONET.COM Wed Mar 6 18:32:20 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:32:20 -0600 Subject: OFF:starfied shaped (apology Keith) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I was told that the CD single was dildo shaped someone just told me that while technically anything that size could be referred as that, that it isn't I'm pissed as I just mailed 2 sex pistols CD's to that person capiche? so now I am a little less insane m From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Mar 6 20:56:09 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:56:09 EST Subject: OFF:Motorhead Tour Message-ID: http://www.pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=Artist&Content=Motorhead&Exact=Y Bill From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Mar 6 19:01:27 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:01:27 -0500 Subject: BOC:Tales From The Psychic Wars Message-ID: Nice review of above album @ ...and I think it kicks ass (or arse) tim 8>)... From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 6 23:26:29 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:26:29 EST Subject: OFF:starfied shaped (apology Keith) Message-ID: In a message dated 7/03/02 10:03:03 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > I was told that the CD single was dildo shaped > someone just told me that while technically anything that size could be > referred as that, that it isn't > cigar shaped may have been more polite - I can't wait to get one soon From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 7 03:27:48 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (red) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 02:27:48 -0600 Subject: OFF:Motorhead Tour In-Reply-To: <191.35c010c.29b822b9@aol.com> Message-ID: phosphorous red, not arsenic oops d'ohh..........lemme's kommin' finally.......headliner I expect (FINALLY!) oh god pleeez no more support shows......... thanx you. From micci at SCI.FI Thu Mar 7 03:48:28 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:48:28 +0200 Subject: HW: tribute to hawkwind Message-ID: >In a message dated 6/03/02 8:48:29 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, >micci at SCI.FI writes: > > >> Thanks Michael! >> >> I?m sure it will be great. >> >> Anyone coming? :-) >> >Any possible chance of a video or a recording being done? Not sure about video, but we try to record atleast some part of it. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Thu Mar 7 05:57:45 2002 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:57:45 +0000 Subject: BOC: King of the City In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I only subscribe to the BOC half of the list, so I don't know whether any Hawkwind fan has mentioned this, but I just read 'King of the City' by Michael Moorcock. It's a novel about a fictional photographer / guitarist in London during the 1970s. There are several passages where the hero hangs out with Robert Calvert, and there are mentions of DikMik, Lemmy and Dave Brock too. Anyone else read it? - Mike Godwin From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 7 05:59:29 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 05:59:29 EST Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: In a message dated 7/03/02 9:28:11 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK writes: > I only subscribe to the BOC half of the list, so I don't know whether any > Hawkwind fan has mentioned this, but I just read 'King of the City' by > Michael Moorcock. It's a novel about a fictional photographer / guitarist > in London during the 1970s. There are several passages where the hero > hangs out with Robert Calvert, and there are mentions of DikMik, Lemmy and > Dave Brock too. > > No - but I will be looking out for it now Cheers matey :-) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 7 08:08:10 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:08:10 GMT Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY In-Reply-To: Captain Bl@ck's message of Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:29:15 -0000 Message-ID: Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped > > >mini CD? > > > > Which is all very clever, but difficult to store in CD racks. > Tch! Tch! Some people are never satisfied etc etc. > > Fortunately Starfield also produce an album called Return To Earth, which > cleverly has a space inside the booklet for storing just such an item... I have that very excellent album. I'll check it out for the storage thingy. FoFP From CWarburton at OAG.COM Thu Mar 7 09:29:31 2002 From: CWarburton at OAG.COM (ChrisW Work) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:29:31 -0000 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: Strangely enough, I do (even if it's long after the debate) - I'm very fond of the Abess' stuff (depite being a pagan). ChrisW From: Eric Siegerman > 11:11 11/11 1111 This is the only one that's universal and unambiguous -- besides being the coolest, with only one digit... And it even happened during Hildegard of Bingen's lifetime (not that anyone else here will care ;-) From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Mar 7 12:41:22 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:41:22 +0100 Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: Michael R Godwin wrote: > I only subscribe to the BOC half of the list, so I don't know whether any > Hawkwind fan has mentioned this, but I just read 'King of the City' by > Michael Moorcock. It's a novel about a fictional photographer / guitarist > in London during the 1970s. There are several passages where the hero > hangs out with Robert Calvert, and there are mentions of DikMik, Lemmy and > Dave Brock too. > > Anyone else read it? > > - Mike Godwin I read it a few months ago. A good, but not brilliant book IMO. It?s quite confusing how Mike mixes up reality with fiction. For example he describes the HW gig at H?smith 84 with Calvert (which was real) and mentions a lot of records which are real. But there are lots of fictional records that sadly never appeared. And that the Deep Fix sold millions of records can?t be real. Or did I miss something? Andreas From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Mar 7 13:15:57 2002 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:15:57 +0100 Subject: HW: but sort of OFF In-Reply-To: <005e01c1c54e$28634580$4bebfea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: I'm so depressed, my record-dealer can't get Yule Ritual for me or Gong's last studio album. The new Rush album seems to be delayed over and over again, please, someone, say something to make me happy, maybe some news on the Hawkestra album... Kenneth ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 7 14:24:07 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:24:07 GMT Subject: BOC: King of the City In-Reply-To: Andreas Stuewe's message of Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:41:22 +0100 Message-ID: > I read it a few months ago. A good, but not brilliant book IMO. It?s > quite confusing how Mike mixes up reality with fiction. For example > he describes the HW gig at H?smith 84 with Calvert (which was real) > and mentions a lot of records which are real. But there are lots of > fictional records that sadly never appeared. And that the Deep Fix > sold millions of records can?t be real. Or did I miss something? They sold millions of records in another sphere of the Multiverse. FoFP From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Mar 7 15:37:24 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:37:24 -0000 Subject: HW: but sort of OFF Message-ID: Blimey!! You should know by now - Andy G. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Magnusson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 07 March 2002 18:23 Subject: HW: but sort of OFF >I'm so depressed, my record-dealer can't get Yule Ritual for me or >Gong's last studio album. The new Rush album seems to be delayed over >and over again, please, someone, say something to make me happy, >maybe some news on the Hawkestra album... > >Kenneth >------- >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Mar 7 14:48:15 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:48:15 -0600 Subject: OFF: Behold the Rocklopedia Fakebandica! Message-ID: Cool site, not so cool web design. Had to use IE to view the site since it didn't display in Netscape. http://www.vgg.com/tp/tp_080700_fakeband.html From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 7 16:06:54 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:06:54 -0600 Subject: HW: but sort of OFF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: mail order andy g whoopee! red phosphorous >I'm so depressed, my record-dealer can't get Yule Ritual for me or >Gong's last studio album. The new Rush album seems to be delayed over >and over again, please, someone, say something to make me happy, >maybe some news on the Hawkestra album... > >Kenneth >------- >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Mar 7 16:47:09 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:47:09 -0000 Subject: OFF: Behold the Rocklopedia Fakebandica! Message-ID: Raises quizzical eyebrow in "I told you so" mode... :-) Cheers, Rich. > Cool site, not so cool web design. > Had to use IE to view the site since > it didn't display in Netscape. > > http://www.vgg.com/tp/tp_080700_fakeband.html > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Mar 7 17:26:56 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:26:56 -0500 Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY Message-ID: Thingy...is that a technical term??? tim 8>)... M Holmes wrote: > > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > > > Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped > > > >mini CD? > > > > > > Which is all very clever, but difficult to store in CD racks. > > > Tch! Tch! Some people are never satisfied etc etc. > > > > Fortunately Starfield also produce an album called Return To Earth, which > > cleverly has a space inside the booklet for storing just such an item... > > I have that very excellent album. I'll check it out for the storage thingy. > > FoFP From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Thu Mar 7 17:50:12 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:50:12 +1100 Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY Message-ID: Not as technical as thingamebob or doobalacky. Or should that be doobalakky? Technical jargon can be confusing some time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:26 AM Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > Thingy...is that a technical term??? > tim 8>)... > M Holmes wrote: > > > > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > > > > > Sure you're not confusing that with the new Starfield Insomniac shaped > > > > >mini CD? > > > > > > > > Which is all very clever, but difficult to store in CD racks. > > > > > Tch! Tch! Some people are never satisfied etc etc. > > > > > > Fortunately Starfield also produce an album called Return To Earth, which > > > cleverly has a space inside the booklet for storing just such an item... > > > > I have that very excellent album. I'll check it out for the storage thingy. > > > > FoFP > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 7 18:12:07 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:12:07 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just had word in that there is an alternate version of T.A.T. lp that does NOT have Hawkwind on it..... my 4 or so copies all are titled that same (took that many tries to get another perfect one), and have the same number of pages in the booklet, and all include that Sugarcubes track that is not listed my source was too drunk to go into details right now, and in that country they make jets that drop beer bombs.... I like the little "IE" thing at the end of "thingie" but I guess it's thingy phew! m From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 19:12:57 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:12:57 -0000 Subject: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac Message-ID: yeh - but you can also get it from us - and if you're outside EEC, you get seventeen and a half percent VAT discount too. Andy G. agcdser at aol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Re: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac > Where can I get this? Can I get it from Keith? > > Cheers > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KevinSommers" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:17 AM > Subject: Re: (OFF)Starfield Insomniac > > > > I just received this yesterday. There's been some discussion about it > here: > > "Wonderful" "Great song" "Can't stop playing it" > > Forget all that. > > It's even better than that. Captain Black and crew: Ignore sleep, don't > > eat, or any of those other distractions. Get the full-length CD out. > > Yesterday isn't soon enough. > > > > KevinSommers > > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 19:22:11 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:22:11 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: got it in one. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Re: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) > Mike C wrote: > > is that AYERON thing in the above? > > > > mike c > > > > That'll be the STAR1 album. > > Mark From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 19:24:02 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:24:02 -0000 Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: just in case yer inerested, the BOC 'Tales of The Psychic Wars' is coming out as a ltd editon double 180 gram, gatefold sleeve vinyl pressing so if you want any, you know where to come (here of course) but tht you'd be greatful for the info BOC-er's. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael R Godwin" To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: BOC: King of the City > I only subscribe to the BOC half of the list, so I don't know whether any > Hawkwind fan has mentioned this, but I just read 'King of the City' by > Michael Moorcock. It's a novel about a fictional photographer / guitarist > in London during the 1970s. There are several passages where the hero > hangs out with Robert Calvert, and there are mentions of DikMik, Lemmy and > Dave Brock too. > > Anyone else read it? > > - Mike Godwin From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 19:25:54 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:25:54 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: if yer serious mike, my condolences about yer mum. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:14 PM Subject: Re: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) > mom's got dementia but I think it's alzhheimers and she can't figure out > the 2 credit cards anymore..maybe it's her way of saying "snoop doggy dogg > get a jobby jobb" I dunno... > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 19:26:51 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:26:51 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: thanks nick - will do - Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:07 PM Subject: Re: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) > > I hope you are kidding squire - where are you anyway? Not had any demands > > for CD's from you in a while - don't miss out, coz we've got the > "Starfield" > > shaped disc now, we've got the new "Star Nation" album in 2 weeks or less, > > the "Star 1" album with limited edition Dave Brock-does-Hawkwind-medley > > bonus disc in 4 weeks - in fact, it's all stars right now - how weird. > > Andy G (at CDS Towers - still the kings of space-rock) > > Count me in for a copy of the Star 1 album, please Andy. > > Nick Lee > > MK11 1LH From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 19:21:20 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:21:20 -0000 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: Turner - yes when he delivers!!!! Stars on 45/Star Trekkin - sold loads in the '80's but that's all behind me now Starship Trooper - hell,yeh - which version? - right now I reckon I could sell that song to you on any one of about twenty Yes and related CD's and don't forget our other CDS faves that are Starcastle, Starlite Desperation, Starfish Pool, Starfish Enterprises and Stars Of The Lid. CDS Towers - the home of the stars!!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: Re: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) > Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > - in fact, it's all stars right now - how weird. > > Hey, > > Does that mean you're stocking Nik Turners fantastic ALL STARS? > > And...... > Stars on 45 > Star Trekkin' > Starship Trooper > er,, better stop now eh - I'll go and wind up the scouser and traveller > haters on the Glastonbury chat board. > > Mark From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 20:08:04 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 01:08:04 -0000 Subject: HW: but sort of OFF Message-ID: last Gong studio CD and last live CD are now available as one mid-priced double CD so that mite cheer you up. Andy G (CDS Towers) ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave hall" To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: but sort of OFF > Blimey!! You should know by now - Andy G. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Magnusson > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 07 March 2002 18:23 > Subject: HW: but sort of OFF > > > >I'm so depressed, my record-dealer can't get Yule Ritual for me or > >Gong's last studio album. The new Rush album seems to be delayed over > >and over again, please, someone, say something to make me happy, > >maybe some news on the Hawkestra album... > > > >Kenneth > >------- > >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor > > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 20:08:41 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 01:08:41 -0000 Subject: HW: but sort of OFF Message-ID: oh yeh - thanks Dave - cheque's in the post...... Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave hall" To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: but sort of OFF > Blimey!! You should know by now - Andy G. > > Dave From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 20:10:26 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 01:10:26 -0000 Subject: HW: but sort of OFF Message-ID: space-rock/psych central to most - just wait until the web site is up and running (not long to go now) - then we'll be really dangerous. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike c" To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:06 PM Subject: Re: HW: but sort of OFF > mail order > > andy g > > whoopee! > > red phosphorous > > >I'm so depressed, my record-dealer can't get Yule Ritual for me or > >Gong's last studio album. The new Rush album seems to be delayed over > >and over again, please, someone, say something to make me happy, > >maybe some news on the Hawkestra album... > > > >Kenneth > >------- > >Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ > >The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 7 20:11:56 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 01:11:56 -0000 Subject: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY Message-ID: funny shaped gubbins suits us. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Skane" To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:50 PM Subject: Re: (OFF)ALICE/STAR NATION SHAPED SHORT PLAY > Not as technical as thingamebob or doobalacky. Or should that be doobalakky? > Technical jargon can be confusing some time. > From deltawave at METRONET.COM Thu Mar 7 20:17:31 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:17:31 -0600 Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) In-Reply-To: <01eb01c1c63c$9809c8c0$10b101d5@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: >if yer serious mike, my condolences about yer mum. >Andy G. hey folks (and Andy, I love you, is there a guy called Andy G in the room?),,,don't mean to annoy, but it is THE problem....anyhydrous ammonia, lemme, and red phosphorous are just (very silly) excuses I use tho' they do make spotty pics look better and trips to the dentist more often, possible.....(I hope Lemmy is holding) (oh sh*t, I'm an ugly guy, not a pretty girl) I was adopted and spoiled and my mom is the only one I ever loved..I am picky...she is so confused all day long and won't hear a word about improving -apparently this goes with the dementia-to-alzheimers (if it does)....(I have to keep shutting the doors when she wanders off) (and that purse digging had GOT TO DIE) but still..I stink... please hold that gear.....today was a late bloomer as I got glued on the lists too long yesterday and I had swirling nightmares again... I am appraoaching -I broke the ice today and it's a go...... I-o Dyne From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Mar 7 21:50:39 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:50:39 EST Subject: new space-rock - you hear it here first (as always) Message-ID: In a message dated 3/7/02 5:17:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > I was adopted and spoiled and my mom is the only one I ever loved..I am > picky...she is so confused all day long and won't hear a word about > improving -apparently this goes with the dementia-to-alzheimers (if it > does)....(I have to keep shutting the doors when she wanders off) (and that > purse digging had GOT TO DIE) Yes, condolensces from here as well. My grandmother recently "contracted" (?) Alzheimer's, and it's almost turned my own mom into a total basketcase... :( Chuck From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Mar 7 22:40:28 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:40:28 -0500 Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: Man,i don't believe it. ya grow up with vinyl,and they switch you to cassettes, and then into cds...now back to vinyl....argh!! tim 8>)... Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > > just in case yer inerested, the BOC 'Tales of The Psychic Wars' is coming > out as a ltd editon double 180 gram, gatefold sleeve vinyl pressing so if > you want any, you know where to come (here of course) but tht you'd be > greatful for the info BOC-er's. > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael R Godwin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:57 AM > Subject: BOC: King of the City > > > > I only subscribe to the BOC half of the list, so I don't know whether any > > Hawkwind fan has mentioned this, but I just read 'King of the City' by > > Michael Moorcock. It's a novel about a fictional photographer / guitarist > > in London during the 1970s. There are several passages where the hero > > hangs out with Robert Calvert, and there are mentions of DikMik, Lemmy and > > Dave Brock too. > > > > Anyone else read it? > > > > - Mike Godwin From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 8 02:50:20 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 01:50:20 -0600 Subject: *Star Nation* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: just found a chaotic e-mail in the box- record this address in a safe place and make SURE you use it - this is a reinforcement of Alice's message- repeat- this is the Star Nation e-mail address and Richard is there (he'll show up if you knock on the big crackling door) here-: Starnation1 at aol.com From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 8 03:07:50 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 02:07:50 -0600 Subject: HW "TAT" correction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: gulp- oops- I just got bitched at as I misread a message- there is another copy of TAT (Travellers Aid Trust) that hasn't got THE WORD Hawkwind on it I didn't want to hog bandwidth here but I can't STAND errors on-list concerning Hawkwind facts- well- some of us already knew this one exists and I have heard the booklet is differen't and I doubt it includes Sugarcubes (is that one word?) (Bjork wasn't my trip),,,anyway........maybe I'll get a pic scanned for a Yahoo display m From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 8 03:29:56 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 03:29:56 EST Subject: *Star Nation* Message-ID: In a message dated 8/03/02 6:48:54 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > this is a reinforcement of Alice's message- repeat- this is the Star > Nation e-mail address and Richard is there (he'll show up if you knock on > the big crackling door) > is this legal? or are you being a naughty boy? From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 8 03:58:13 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 02:58:13 -0600 Subject: *Star Nation* In-Reply-To: <62.1c0b9f47.29b9d084@aol.com> Message-ID: >is this legal? or are you being a naughty boy? yes- strictly- I've known of Richard since he "encountered" my "crew" in the parking lot in San Diego of October 12, 89, and we "encounterd" his....(they approved of my crew [not necessarily ME in total, mind you] and told them to get their ass to the festivals) he sees me drunker than my best friends of 20 years ever do....d*mn sh*t p*ss f*ck.. (there was that one time when it was just a kidney stone) 13 years tho' (I think I kept him awake at Jim's bitching late into the pre-dawn hours) Starnation1 at aol.com From Andy.Ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK Fri Mar 8 04:24:37 2002 From: Andy.Ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK (Andy Ball) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:24:37 +0000 Subject: HW: free CD Message-ID: Hi all, Any news or rumours as to when we might get this? Me and my girlfriend sent our Forum ticket stubs in the day after, but 3 months on and nothing! Cheers, Andy From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 8 05:44:51 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:44:51 GMT Subject: Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: mike c's message of Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:12:07 -0600 Message-ID: mike c writes: > Just had word in that there is an alternate version of T.A.T. lp that does > NOT have Hawkwind on it..... I have a copy of T.A.T that has *NOTHING* on it. What's more, it's invisible! FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 8 06:12:13 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (Hairy Shoulder) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 05:12:13 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: <200203081044.KAA15965@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >I have a copy of T.A.T that has *NOTHING* on it. What's more, it's >invisible! > >FoFP that's so cool! would you consider scanning it for me so I can display it? also- I wonder how it supported the trust? HS From iainferguson at AOL.COM Fri Mar 8 06:26:30 2002 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:26:30 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? Message-ID: God, you are so lucky, I bought mine whilst watching hawkdog. Problem is I put it down somewhere and couldn't find it afterwards, I had the Invisible picture disk version, If only it had been the flourencent invisible coloured vinyl i'd still have it today. Whoof Iain fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK wrote: >mike c writes: > >> Just had word in that there is an alternate version of T.A.T. lp that does >>NOT have Hawkwind on it..... >> > >I have a copy of T.A.T that has *NOTHING* on it. What's more, it's >invisible! > >FoFP > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 8 06:29:55 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:29:55 GMT Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: Hairy Shoulder's message of Fri, 8 Mar 2002 05:12:13 -0600 Message-ID: Hairy Shoulder writes: > >I have a copy of T.A.T that has *NOTHING* on it. What's more, it's > >invisible! > > > >FoFP > that's so cool! would you consider scanning it for me so I can display > it? I would, but it doesn't fit into the scanner and I don't want to damage it by bending. > also- I wonder how it supported the trust? HS They didn't sell it for cash. I had to take out an option on a currency swap derivative. The trust is the counterparty to the swap and will benefit if the Yen reaches 140 to the Dollar or Mike Coleman posts something that makes sense, whichever happens soonest. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 8 07:00:04 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:00:04 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: <200203081129.LAA03980@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >>also- I wonder how it supported the trust? HS > >They didn't sell it for cash. I had to take out an option on a currency >swap derivative. The trust is the counterparty to the swap and will >benefit if the Yen reaches 140 to the Dollar or Mike Coleman posts >something that makes sense, whichever happens soonest. > >FoFP swipe! hey- now your making me paranoid for handling Richard's coded message of "quit wanking and send me something to analyze" business..... anyway, I am old and flatulant and have severly cracked flat anhydroused feet and eye-oh-dined crystals formed in the webbed areas from laying about clutching the spotty pic I love best, and "lost it" due to lack of oxygen from the Marlboro smoke...so I had to run for a Kevin Sommers message and steal- [[[[["Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively"]]]]] ps- apologies for the unecessary story about me me me and 89 89 89 I had an ulterior motive, of course... AGAIN. STARFIELD ADDRESS THAT IS MONITORING WHICH ONES OF YOU USE IT AND INTELLIGENTLY NOTING WHO DOES NOT FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT OF COUPLE WEEKS, IS: [[[[ Starnation1 at aol.com]]]] AND THEB WEB SITE: [[[[[www.star-nation.co.uk]]]]] DON'T FUCK UP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 8 07:07:45 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:07:45 GMT Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: mike c's message of Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:00:04 -0600 Message-ID: mike c writes: > anyway, I am old and flatulant and have severly cracked flat > anhydroused feet and eye-oh-dined crystals formed in the webbed areas If you rub Marmite on your forehead for a month that'll fix it. It never fails! FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 8 07:10:11 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:10:11 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Star Nation-another d*mned correction Message-ID: AGAIN. **STAR NATION** ADDRESS THAT IS MONITORING WHICH ONES OF YOU USE IT AND INTELLIGENTLY NOTING WHO DOES NOT FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT OF COUPLE WEEKS, IS: [[[[ Starnation1 at aol.com]]]] AND THEB WEB SITE: [[[[[www.star-nation.co.uk]]]]] DON'T FUCK UP (If I was on [good] acid, I'd hear Mike FoFP's grinning) I'll have you for this From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Mar 8 07:26:36 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:26:36 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? Message-ID: From: "M Holmes" > I have a copy of T.A.T that has *NOTHING* on it. What's more, it's > invisible! Ah! An ultra rare one - Can I buy it? From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Mar 8 07:49:12 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:49:12 +0800 Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? Message-ID: > benefit if the Yen reaches 140 to the Dollar or Mike Coleman posts > something that makes sense, whichever happens soonest. > > FoFP > I'm barracking for the Yen From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 8 09:09:02 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:09:02 EST Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/03/02 11:16:26 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU writes: > I'm barracking for the Yen I'll put a tenner on the King of Kosmik Karaoke From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 8 08:55:25 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:55:25 EST Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? Message-ID: In a message dated 8/03/02 10:30:40 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > DON'T FUCK UP > Yes getting down is much preferable From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 8 11:58:16 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:58:16 +0100 Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: M Holmes Wrote: > They sold millions of records in another sphere of the Multiverse. > > FoFP Sorry, I forgot. Can anyone tell me how to get to that sphere? Andreas, back to reading "Tales from the Texas Woods" From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Fri Mar 8 15:04:02 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:04:02 -0000 Subject: HW: When Rock.... Hawkwind on UK Tele Message-ID: For those not on the Hawkwind Yahoo list. Its not me who said that HW are on the show, but the trailer did feature a clip of a Lemmy interview. Its on BBC1, Wednesday 13th March, probably at about 10:45 pm GMT. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Von Bargen To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Hawkwind] When Rock.... Yeah ok. Its not quite a new series as this week saw When Disco ruled the World on our TV's. Its the usual fare - a bit like the Top 10 of... series but without the chart. The disco program saw lots of humorous stuff, mainly at the expense of groups like Village People and Earth Wind and Fire. There were plenty of wortwhile moments with a fair bit of behind the scenes stuff. Another difference is that it has a global focus unlike the Top10's British bias. There were a couple of really interesting bits; yes honestly, in the disco program. It showed just how brilliant Chic were, no matter what your musical tastes - they were awesome. Also, there were more clips of Earth Wind & Fire in concert than I have ever seen. From those clips the EW&F shows looked fantastic, even if they were a bit cheesy - sort of like a disco equivalent of Space Rock (Space Disco, maybe). Love to see a full EW&F show. Anybody know if there is a full show out there? A short trailer for the Rock show had the usual suspects; Ozzy, women getting their tits out (an old 70's & 80's rock tradition),loadsa guitars & lightshows, two seconds of a Lemmy interview but no mention of Hawkwind?!?! Marl ----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Eaton To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 12:51 AM Subject: RE: [Hawkwind] When Rock.... Thank you. That certainly helps. Any more clues? BBC1 has not inspired me towards manic video setting recently ;-) RDE -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Rodwell [mailto:wayne at busboy.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 07 March 2002 17:19 To: Hawkwind at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Hawkwind] When Rock.... oops forgot to say on BBC1 Wayne Community email addresses: Post message: Hawkwind at onelist.com Subscribe: Hawkwind-subscribe at onelist.com Unsubscribe: Hawkwind-unsubscribe at onelist.com List owner: Hawkwind-owner at onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/Hawkwind Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Community email addresses: Post message: Hawkwind at onelist.com Subscribe: Hawkwind-subscribe at onelist.com Unsubscribe: Hawkwind-unsubscribe at onelist.com List owner: Hawkwind-owner at onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/Hawkwind Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Mar 8 16:16:09 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:16:09 -0600 Subject: HW: our Richard Chadwick? Message-ID: Hey - Just got the new John Paul Jones CD, "Thunderthief", and noticed: "Special thanks to Richard Chadwick at Opium (Arts), ..." Is this our Richard Chadwick? From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Fri Mar 8 16:21:39 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:21:39 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? Message-ID: Mike, how do you find that whe you want to play it?!? ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? > mike c writes: > > > Just had word in that there is an alternate version of T.A.T. lp that does > > NOT have Hawkwind on it..... > > I have a copy of T.A.T that has *NOTHING* on it. What's more, it's > invisible! > > FoFP > From denis at D-RIDER.DE Fri Mar 8 16:16:27 2002 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:16:27 +0100 Subject: BOC: King of the City In-Reply-To: <16jNhA-1tUYbZC@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: Hiho, >Sorry, I forgot. Can anyone tell me how to get to that sphere? Nothing's more easy than that: just go outside and wait for the ship with that blind captain... (c)IAO D:-)R np: Apoptygma Berzerk, "Harmonizer" (that one sucks big time) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Mar 8 16:33:38 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:33:38 -0500 Subject: HW: our Richard Chadwick? Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:16:09 -0600, Karen Kusic wrote: >Just got the new John Paul Jones CD, "Thunderthief", and noticed: > >"Special thanks to Richard Chadwick at Opium (Arts), ..." > >Is this our Richard Chadwick? Well ... if you do a web search for "Opium Arts", you'll come up with a bunch of links that show it's a management/publishing company & label (releases available at The Artist Shop, just like all the Brain Surgeons releases on Cellsum) that handles, in addition to JPJ, Bill Nelson, King Crimson, David Sylvian, and others (most of whom also thank mr. Chadwick). So ... if it was the same Richard Chadwick, you would expect that Hawkwind would be using them for management (instead of Marion), releases (instead of Voiceprint) and publishing (instead of Rock Music). Therefore, I'd be mighty surprised if it was the same person ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Mar 8 15:45:40 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:45:40 -0600 Subject: OFF: Pub Crawlers Get Hi-Tech Support Message-ID: Could be helpful during those long tours! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&u=/nm/20020308/od_nm/gizmo_dc_1 From deltawave at METRONET.COM Fri Mar 8 16:49:53 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:49:53 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: <00fb01c1c6e8$2ecec660$4bebfea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: >Mike, > >how do you find that whe you want to play it?!? he never plays his collection, he's a collecter dude dude m From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri Mar 8 16:53:56 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:53:56 -0000 Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: yeh - kinda bizarre eh!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:40 AM Subject: Re: BOC: King of the City > Man,i don't believe it. ya grow up with vinyl,and they switch you to cassettes, > and then into cds...now back to vinyl....argh!! > tim 8>)... > Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > > > > just in case yer inerested, the BOC 'Tales of The Psychic Wars' is coming > > out as a ltd editon double 180 gram, gatefold sleeve vinyl pressing so if From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Mar 8 11:58:17 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:58:17 +0100 Subject: HW: freak emporium march mail out Message-ID: Hawkwind - Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin. CD, GBP7.99. Live show from the Empire Pool, Wembley back in 1976. It's the classic line-up and includes a slew of major tunes, including "Urban Guerilla," "Masters Of The Universe," "Sonic Attack" and "Silver Machine." We think this was a heck of a show - some of us were there! http://www.freakemporium.com/cgi-bin/product.cgi?HACD129 Hawkwind - It Is The Busines Of The Future To Be Dangerous. CD, GBP9.50. First released in 1993, this remastered and repackaged album saw the band embracing new technologies and textures within their musical output - even dabbling with techno ambient soundscapes. Still plenty around for the rockers though, including their own inimitable version of "Gimme Shelter." http://www.freakemporium.com/cgi- bin/product.cgi?HACD070 From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Mar 8 12:34:50 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:34:50 +0000 Subject: OFF: Russian Electronic Experimental Festival 2002 (fwd) Message-ID: Dear All, this may interest one or two of you... apologies for HTML artefacts... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: pbkrec at webtv.net Newsgroups: alt.music.spacerock Subject: Russian Electronic Experimental Festival 2002 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:16:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <22544-3C3A3A58-169 at storefull-268.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Just to inform everyone that Russia's First Annual Electronic Experimental Festival will be held in July of 2002. Some of the participants will include Brian Eno, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Stefve Roach, (the original)Cluster, Vidna Obmana, PBK, etc. The web site link below provides more details. http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/pbkrecordings

pbk__ at hotmail.com ------- end of forwarded message ------- -- Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk ====================================================================== "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Mar 8 17:22:17 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:22:17 -0600 Subject: HW: ansible reference Message-ID: For those folks who get Dave Langford's Ansible fanzine, he has a moorcock/hw ref in the latest.... _Mike Moorcock_ seizes yet another commercial opportunity: `I thought you'd like to know that in order to exploit the current popularity of _Lord of the Rings_, Hawkwind will now be known as Orcwind (as they are indeed known by many already).' Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Mar 8 19:22:11 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:22:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: not an EMS Synthi, but close ... Message-ID: ... an analog synthesizer that comes packaged in a suitcase, with a joystick controller, built-in sequencer, and a matrix patch panel (but no spring reverb or keyboard, although it has a MIDI converter so you can plug in an external keyboard): http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/concussor/vostok.htm (The best part: delivery time 2-4 weeks, not 2-4 years!) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri Mar 8 19:05:26 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:05:26 -0000 Subject: HW: freak emporium march mail out Message-ID: now you would think someone as expert as Freak Emporium would have spotted that Yuri Gagarin thing - it's NOT from '76 - don't be fooled. - it's the same old 'Yuri Gagarin' from '72 or '73 or whenever. I am surprised Freak Emp failed to spot that but just so ya all know. As to the 'Business' remaster, I suppose that is the one that came out ages back (and we are doing for ?7.99!!!) - not quite sure why you highlighted that one Andreas! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Stuewe" To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: HW: freak emporium march mail out > Hawkwind - Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin. CD, GBP7.99. Live show > from the Empire Pool, Wembley back in 1976. It's the classic line-up > and includes a slew of major tunes, including "Urban Guerilla," > "Masters Of The Universe," "Sonic Attack" and "Silver Machine." We > think this was a heck of a show - some of us were there! > http://www.freakemporium.com/cgi-bin/product.cgi?HACD129 > > Hawkwind - It Is The Busines Of The Future To Be Dangerous. CD, > GBP9.50. First released in 1993, this remastered and repackaged album > saw the band embracing new technologies and textures within their > musical output - even dabbling with techno ambient soundscapes. Still > plenty around for the rockers though, including their own inimitable > version of "Gimme Shelter." http://www.freakemporium.com/cgi- > bin/product.cgi?HACD070 From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 8 19:54:43 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:54:43 EST Subject: HW: freak emporium march mail out Message-ID: In a message dated 9/03/02 10:55:44 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM writes: > that Yuri Gagarin thing - it's NOT from '76 - don't be fooled. > - it's the same old 'Yuri Gagarin' from '72 or '73 or whenever. Bring me the head of Rolf Harriss - and a carafe of chilled Chardonay From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Mar 8 20:18:53 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:18:53 -0500 Subject: HW: ansible reference In-Reply-To: ; from akomins@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU on Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 04:22:17PM -0600 Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 04:22:17PM -0600, Arin Komins wrote: > _Mike Moorcock_ seizes yet another commercial opportunity: `I thought > you'd like to know that in order to exploit the current popularity of > _Lord of the Rings_, Hawkwind will now be known as Orcwind (as they are > indeed known by many already).' No, those are the evil clones that FoFP keeps attracting. Mike, how many times have I told you -- wearing that invisible CD on your finger is *dangerous*! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Mar 9 04:26:09 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:26:09 -0000 Subject: HW: When Rock.... Hawkwind on UK Tele Message-ID: The Radio Times has a brief articleon this programme. It mentions the Lemmy interview and that he was in HW but does not actually say that HW are in the show. Expect a 5 sec clip of Silver Machine at most, I'd say. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: HW: When Rock.... Hawkwind on UK Tele For those not on the Hawkwind Yahoo list. Its not me who said that HW are on the show, but the trailer did feature a clip of a Lemmy interview. Its on BBC1, Wednesday 13th March, probably at about 10:45 pm GMT. Mark From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Mar 9 11:49:37 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 17:49:37 +0100 Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hiho, > > >Sorry, I forgot. Can anyone tell me how to get to that sphere? > > Nothing's more easy than that: just go outside and wait for the ship with > that blind captain... > > (c)IAO > > D:-)R Hm, I spent some hours today in the garden, but haven?t seen such a ship. But I saw a man walking by our road. He looked a bit strange and foreign. His ascetic features were sensitive, his skin milk-white. From deep cavities within that half-starved face moody crimson eyes burned like flowers of Hell. Once or twice he turned over his shoulder to look back. I didn?t dare to ask him, but somehow I felt like he might know how to get to that sphere... Andreas From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Mar 9 11:49:43 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 17:49:43 +0100 Subject: HW: freak emporium march mail out Message-ID: Andrew Garibaldi wrote: > now you would think someone as expert as Freak Emporium would have spotted > that Yuri Gagarin thing - it's NOT from '76 - don't be fooled. > - it's the same old 'Yuri Gagarin' from '72 or '73 or whenever. > I am surprised Freak Emp failed to spot that but just so ya all know. > As to the 'Business' remaster, I suppose that is the one that came out ages > back (and we are doing for ?7.99!!!) - not quite sure why you highlighted > that one Andreas! > Andy G. I thought that all people on this list know the endless stories of this low quality ?73 recording being re-released for the 53rd time (correct me if I?m wrong). And as you said Freak Emporium should know better, as they claim to be a psych/space-rock/prog mail order. What really worries me is that people who are not on this list and order it from FE because of this "splendid" review they might be disappointed and won?t ever buy a HW record again. Andreas From erics at TELEPRES.COM Sat Mar 9 17:29:29 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 17:29:29 -0500 Subject: BOC: King of the City In-Reply-To: <16jk2L-1dWtaSC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com>; from Andreas.Stuewe@T-ONLINE.DE on Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 05:49:37PM +0100 Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 05:49:37PM +0100, Andreas Stuewe wrote: > [...] I > saw a man walking by our road. He looked a bit strange and foreign. His ascetic > features were sensitive, his skin milk-white. From deep cavities within that > half-starved face moody crimson eyes burned like flowers of Hell. Once or twice > he turned over his shoulder to look back. Pierre Trudeau? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 9 17:47:49 2002 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (Steve Johnson) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 17:47:49 EST Subject: HW: When Rock.... Hawkwind on UK Tele Message-ID: In a message dated 3/9/02 9:26:53 AM GMT Standard Time, nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET writes: > Its on BBC1, Wednesday 13th March, probably at about 10:45 pm GMT. > 10:35 till 11:35 and features interviews with Lemmy and Alice Cooper. Steve. From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Sat Mar 9 18:48:31 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris W) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 18:48:31 -0500 Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: Not at all bizarre to those of us who stuck by vinyl! I only bought a CD player because FZ's "You Can't Do That on Stage Any More" series was only being released in that format (& also releases on the Incus label, but that's a tad obscure for these parts). Though I suppose I would have been forced to succumb eventually. ChrisW NP: Highway 61 Revisited (on vinyl, of course) On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:53:56 -0000, Andrew Garibaldi wrote: >yeh - kinda bizarre eh!!! >Andy G. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tim" >To: >Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:40 AM >Subject: Re: BOC: King of the City > > >> Man,i don't believe it. ya grow up with vinyl,and they switch you to >cassettes, >> and then into cds...now back to vinyl....argh!! >> tim 8>)... From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Sat Mar 9 18:49:44 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris W) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 18:49:44 -0500 Subject: HW: freak emporium march mail out Message-ID: What? Again!? *sigh* On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:58:17 +0100, Andreas Stuewe wrote: >Hawkwind - Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin. CD, GBP7.99. Live show >from the Empire Pool, Wembley back in 1976. It's the classic line-up >and includes a slew of major tunes, including "Urban Guerilla," >"Masters Of The Universe," "Sonic Attack" and "Silver Machine." We >think this was a heck of a show - some of us were there! >http://www.freakemporium.com/cgi-bin/product.cgi?HACD129 > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Mar 9 10:28:12 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:28:12 GMT Subject: Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: Mark Von Bargen's message of Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:21:39 -0000 Message-ID: Mark Von Bargen writes: > Mike, > > how do you find that whe you want to play it?!? I carefully stuck a hair onto one corner. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Mar 9 10:26:23 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:26:23 GMT Subject: BOC: King of the City In-Reply-To: Andreas Stuewe's message of Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:58:16 +0100 Message-ID: Andreas Stuewe writes: > M Holmes Wrote: > > They sold millions of records in another sphere of the Multiverse. > > > > FoFP > > Sorry, I forgot. Can anyone tell me how to get to that sphere? The door to that one is in Austin, Texas. FoFP From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 9 20:24:14 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (wall of flame) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:24:14 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Hawkwind "TAT" RARE vers. 2,0? In-Reply-To: <200203091528.PAA21198@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >Mark Von Bargen writes: > >> Mike, >> >> how do you find that when (I fixed it mark) you want to play it?!? > >I carefully stuck a hair onto one corner. > >FoFP LOL Mike...you are king and things will be better in hours not EMS synth time Hello Jill, he isn't the reason,....I'm planning your next birthday party..(without me of course, don't want the drinks to come back up) (notice it took him a while to do a one-liner?), also..do you have or have you seen those 2 versions? I sure would like to own them....I think that guy in Germany who has more than any of us ever will just sent the back cover scans....I just get these cryptic messages with pics that kill wally From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 9 23:27:23 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 22:27:23 -0600 Subject: (vinyl kollekter kontent) 2 "T.A.T." TOOS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Upon reading the latest message from Muenster, it is decided between us (I think) that the second Travellers Aid Trust LP would be a "corrected" repressing done in ungodly small quantity, not unlike the repressing of the Church Of Hawkwind LP, where the inking on the orange sun is completely smooth and will not be abrasive to the genitals should they be applied....(I have some printed in-between so don't take this like I think I really know)...... anyway,,,,he says the second version removes the big Hawkwind title on the front cover so as not to brag as it was selling in good numbers anyway, and the back cover is changed although I have not perused the pics yet....they are not spotty though,,,,,he says the booklet appears to be the exact same in his copy tho' I do recall reading of a 16pg. VS. 32pg. thingie somewhere... I am about to go back to my pics now, so the board will be intelligible again for a while I'm comming back RRRR love, thanks to all for letting me assemble, or disassemble, among you, and this is not BS. mc From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sat Mar 9 23:53:02 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 22:53:02 -0600 Subject: (vinyl kollekter kontent) 2 "T.A.T." TOOS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: and the SUGARCUBES have been KILLED OFF of the repress,,,no confusion there (referring to rarer LP repressing of Travellers Aid Trust LP if you only see this post and not my other ones) bye From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sun Mar 10 01:40:53 2002 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:40:53 +0100 Subject: (vinyl kollekter kontent) 2 "T.A.T." TOOS Message-ID: At 22:27 2002-03-09 -0600, you wrote: >Upon reading the latest message from Muenster, it is decided between us (I >think) that the second Travellers Aid Trust LP would be a "corrected" >repressing done in ungodly small quantity, not unlike the repressing of the >Church Of Hawkwind LP, where the inking on the orange sun is completely >smooth and will not be abrasive to the genitals should they be >applied....(I have some printed in-between so don't take this like I think >I really know)...... >anyway,,,,he says the second version removes the big Hawkwind title on the >front cover so as not to brag as it was selling in good numbers anyway, and >the back cover is changed although I have not perused the pics yet....they >are not spotty though,,,,,he says the booklet appears to be the exact same >in his copy tho' I do recall reading of a 16pg. VS. 32pg. thingie >somewhere... > >mc Once upon a time (1995-1996) I wrote a HW Top 100 discography, that I for different reasons don't maintain seriosly anymore. (please gunzip those things to do, to make more room for free time in my life) Within, there's those entries: ---------------------------------- 1988/12 2LP (Flicknife SHARP 2045 - UK) Gatefold sleeve. 32 pg T.A.T. booklet. Sugarcube mispressing. Billed as a Hawkwind album. ---------------------------------- 1988/12 2LP (Flicknife SHARP 2045 - UK) Different gatefold sleeve. 32 pg T.A.T. booklet. Billed as "Traveller's Aid Trust" - (various artists) ---------------------------------- Got those two entitys in front of me. The difference of the back cover is just that each song is entered with [title only] on the first HAWKWIND T.A.T. album, but [artist - title] on the second T.A.T. ONLY album. I guess it's because a some fans was disappointed (as I was) of buying a Hawkwind Double, that when playing had lot more non HW content than what should be expected. Both my copies has a 32pg booklet, and is identical. I've also read about a 16pg booklet somewhere (Tawn discography?), but I think that could be wrote "in a hurry", and therefore is false information. I can also add the useful information that the runout groove differs on side D, where the Sugarcube track is/is not. Other grooves are the same. HAWKWIND T.A.T: SHARP 2045-D1 Porky PR-E T.A.T ONLY: SHARP 2045-D2 A Porky Prime Cut A PR-E peace and levitation/happy kollekting, .joe From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 10 03:20:41 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 02:20:41 -0600 Subject: (offish) (vinyl kollekter kontent) 2 "T.A.T." TOOS In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.20020310073452.1fef58b8@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: Johan wrote: >HAWKWIND T.A.T: SHARP 2045-D1 Porky PR-E >T.A.T ONLY: SHARP 2045-D2 A Porky Prime Cut A PR-E > > >peace and levitation/happy kollekting, >.joe AHHHHH he got the run-off grooves- I think I'll go roll a "pinner" to that....the night is dead and I'm alone.....great one..look out for private begging trade/sell mail...and BTW..thanks for getting it all pegged right/// m From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Mar 10 04:10:29 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 04:10:29 -0500 Subject: OFF: ST37 CD for sale (UK) Message-ID: Came by this today on Ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1521955459 Think this deserves a bid from somebody in the UK! Grakkl (FAA) From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 10 05:19:43 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 04:19:43 -0600 Subject: Hawk mIRC chat (OFF) In-Reply-To: <200203100930.EAA21423@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Dear anyone who uses the above gossip group- sadly, it has come to my attention that today I was brought up on the chat- certain "whoevers" curious if I was a total drug burn-out casualty, an actual schizophrenic, or more..... (I really don't know if my hearing of this was an accident or an insult in itself) I have never been diagnosed with schizophrenia, although I have known a couple real ones and that was very scary....my old friends brother got it and I watched what it did..as he got older it was horrific... I have no big problem satifying your curiousity that it is total drug burnout and nothing more interesting or less "every day" than that.,,, I won't be getting a diagnosis any time soon, as I am not only proud of the experiments and changes I have performed on my own mind, but very content in the bitter attitude I have arrived at concerning the human species in general... Next time you get bored and need a few questions answered in your mind about a wierd "dude dude" (LOL) like me explained to your satifaction.....and if it's me again...please direct your inqueries and insults if you must make them to me triwave at metronet.com (mike c) PS- I do feel VERY schizophrenic however, but that is just a side effect that I will "get on" with, because that Bi-polar medicine schtuff they love to hand out so readily makes you really sick if you combine it with accelerants....it turned a friends tongue GREEN@!!!!!!!! I'm stayin' wild got any dope? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 10 05:25:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 05:25:19 EST Subject: Hawk mIRC chat (OFF) Message-ID: In a message dated 10/03/02 8:50:55 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, deltawave at METRONET.COM writes: > got any dope? > I've got a bag full of Lemmy mate From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Mar 10 05:36:53 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 05:36:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Kozmik Ken Experience show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (March 2, 2002): We've just uploaded a new show from the Kozmik Ken Experience. See playlist below. CONCERT: Litmus, a killer heavy Space Rock band, will be playing at the Standard music venue in Walthamstow, London, on April 18th supporting Hawkwind guitarist Huw Lloyd Langton. NOT to be missed! For more information you can visit the Litmus web site at http://www.litmusmusic.co.uk. The Kozmik Ken Experience (March 2002) Byzantium - "Flashing Silver Hope" (from Byzantium) Mandrake - "Len" (from Hen's Teeth 3) DarXtar - "Tombola" (from Tombola) Alien Dream - "Moons And Stardust" (from Dogon Dance) Porcupine Tree - "Men Of Wood" (from Stars Die - The Delerium Years) Holy River Family Band - "Bear Mountain" (from the free CD with Ptolemaic Terrascope 31) Clearlight - "Sweet Absinthe" (from Forever Blowing Bubbles) Dionysus - "Where You Are" (from Wrapped Like Kephler) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 10 07:03:24 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:03:24 EST Subject: Kosmik Ken experience Message-ID: great songs on the show - recomended (( and not just mine either ;-) From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Sun Mar 10 07:47:40 2002 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:47:40 +0000 Subject: BOC: King of the City In-Reply-To: <200203091526.PAA20962@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: >> Sorry, I forgot. Can anyone tell me how to get to that sphere? > >The door to that one is in Austin, Texas. Explain? (I have an inking, but may be wrong) -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 10 07:47:18 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:47:18 EST Subject: BOC: King of the City Message-ID: In a message dated 10/03/02 11:16:26 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK writes: > Explain? (I have an inking, but may be wrong) > you are an inker? what a fine profession that is what colour? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 10 07:36:21 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:36:21 EST Subject: personal request Message-ID: Could someone who has contact with Steve Eyre let him know that the song he played his Multi moog synth on "Moons & Stardust" by Alien Dream is now playing at kosmik kens experience should give him a buzz :-) http://aural-innovations.com/radio/kozmik.html (( hope this link is ok with the guys - its direct )) Michael B From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Sun Mar 10 10:23:05 2002 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:23:05 +0000 Subject: BOC: King of the City In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Michael W Blackman wrote: >> Explain? (I have an inking, but may be wrong) > >you are an inker? what a fine profession that is > >what colour? You should know the answer to that :) -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK Sun Mar 10 12:57:34 2002 From: chaosillumi at CHAOSILLUMI.F9.CO.UK (Chaos Illumination) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:57:34 -0000 Subject: HW: BBC1 programme. Message-ID: Hi, Spotted this in my T.V. guide for this week. 'When Rock Ruled The World' - "Celebrating the loud aappeal of rock music. From 1970 to the mid 1980s, bands such as Led Zepplin, Deep Purple, Hawkwind, Black Sabbath and Motley Crue defined the meaning of rock to excess." Wed 13th March on BBC1, 10.35pm. Set your recorders folks. Marie From deltawave at METRONET.COM Sun Mar 10 14:19:08 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:19:08 -0600 Subject: (OFF) Hawk mIRC chat/ fun fun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: group post due to pressing need for Heinken...and this stack of CD's I just chucked one hundred plus+ on (means I spent too much d'ohh) dear people- there are no false words here... I got NO PROBLEMS with anyone on the above issue..(or any other)..it was over at the start... was a misunderstanding and I want to thank you for even noting the insanity I pump out,,... if I don't get drinking I'll have to sleep and thats just not what I want to do- enough with me, truly sorry so much of me on the board, and you can leave this issue to the embers of nothing at all... I am indeed, a weird dude dude, and if I can't be real, then I s*ck..... cheers no problems EMI and PS- I don't even know where to get any of that there dangerous goup anymore, it's a sham....Mommy, is that you calling? From wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET Sun Mar 10 14:42:37 2002 From: wjbell at MAIL2.GIS.NET (Warrick Bell) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:42:37 -0500 Subject: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare Message-ID: Just some information I came across: Watching the Kenneth Branagh version of Love's Labour's Lost a few days ago mt ears perked up as someone uttered the phrase "world without end." I had forgotten that this line was in the play, though it appears as "world-without-end" in the text as written. Doing a quick web search reveals that Shakespeare used this same line on at least one other occasion, in Sonnet 57. Both texts are available online, at http://absoluteshakespeare.com/plays/loves_labours_lost/a5s2_3.htm and http://www.shakespeares-sonnets.com/57comm.htm The Sonnet page is an analysis of the poem and includes this breakdown: world without end hour = the everlasting, seemingly endless hours. There is an echo of the formulaic prayer: Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen. Warrick Bell "Census Makes Gains in Reducing Number of People Not Counted" --New York Times, 14 February 2001 From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Mar 10 18:57:48 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:57:48 -0500 Subject: Hawk mIRC chat (OFF) Message-ID: No prob there,mike did quite a bit of the funny stuff in my younger days,more power to ya tim 8>)... mike c wrote: > > Dear anyone who uses the above gossip group- > sadly, it has come to my attention that today I was brought up on the chat- > certain "whoevers" curious if I was a total drug burn-out casualty, an > actual schizophrenic, or more..... > (I really don't know if my hearing of this was an accident or an insult in > itself) > I have never been diagnosed with schizophrenia, although I have known a > couple real ones and that was very scary....my old friends brother got it > and I watched what it did..as he got older it was horrific... > > I have no big problem satifying your curiousity that it is total drug > burnout and nothing more interesting or less "every day" than that.,,, > > I won't be getting a diagnosis any time soon, as I am not only proud of the > experiments and changes I have performed on my own mind, but very content > in the bitter attitude I have arrived at concerning the human species in > general... > > Next time you get bored and need a few questions answered in your mind > about a wierd "dude dude" (LOL) like me explained to your > satifaction.....and if it's me again...please direct your inqueries and > insults if you must make them to me > > triwave at metronet.com (mike c) > > PS- I do feel VERY schizophrenic however, but that is just a side effect > that I will "get on" with, because that Bi-polar medicine schtuff they love > to hand out so readily makes you really sick if you combine it with > accelerants....it turned a friends tongue GREEN@!!!!!!!! > > I'm stayin' wild > > got any dope? From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sun Mar 10 23:54:40 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:54:40 +1100 Subject: Hawk mIRC chat (OFF) Message-ID: I have signed letters from my psychiatrist and six professors from the State Institute For The Criminally Insane that after examining me daily from behind an iron door and six security meshes for 14 years that I am completely sane. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Hawk mIRC chat (OFF) > No prob there,mike > did quite a bit of the funny stuff > in my younger days,more power to ya > tim 8>)... > > mike c wrote: > > > > Dear anyone who uses the above gossip group- > > sadly, it has come to my attention that today I was brought up on the chat- > > certain "whoevers" curious if I was a total drug burn-out casualty, an > > actual schizophrenic, or more..... > > (I really don't know if my hearing of this was an accident or an insult in > > itself) > > I have never been diagnosed with schizophrenia, although I have known a > > couple real ones and that was very scary....my old friends brother got it > > and I watched what it did..as he got older it was horrific... > > > > I have no big problem satifying your curiousity that it is total drug > > burnout and nothing more interesting or less "every day" than that.,,, > > > > I won't be getting a diagnosis any time soon, as I am not only proud of the > > experiments and changes I have performed on my own mind, but very content > > in the bitter attitude I have arrived at concerning the human species in > > general... > > > > Next time you get bored and need a few questions answered in your mind > > about a wierd "dude dude" (LOL) like me explained to your > > satifaction.....and if it's me again...please direct your inqueries and > > insults if you must make them to me > > > > triwave at metronet.com (mike c) > > > > PS- I do feel VERY schizophrenic however, but that is just a side effect > > that I will "get on" with, because that Bi-polar medicine schtuff they love > > to hand out so readily makes you really sick if you combine it with > > accelerants....it turned a friends tongue GREEN@!!!!!!!! > > > > I'm stayin' wild > > > > got any dope? > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 11 01:04:44 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 01:04:44 EST Subject: Hawk mIRC chat (OFF) Message-ID: I don't believe him He hops on one leg and carrys an axe just in case he runs into an axe wielding maniac From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Mar 11 08:32:21 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 08:32:21 -0500 Subject: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020310143324.009e79e0@192.168.0.1> Message-ID: Warrick Bell wrote: > Watching the Kenneth Branagh version of Love's Labour's Lost a few days ago > mt ears perked up as someone uttered the phrase "world without end." I had > forgotten that this line was in the play, though it appears as > "world-without-end" in the text as written. There is also a painting at The Met in NYC by Max Ernst called "Revolution By Night." You can see it here: http://www.ze-card.com/images/ernst/ernst7.htm Brian obSong> "Shadow of California," BOC From micci at SCI.FI Mon Mar 11 12:13:02 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:13:02 +0200 Subject: OFF:Jacula Message-ID: Hi! Can anybody give me information about band(man call Jacula and cd?s? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From micci at SCI.FI Mon Mar 11 12:13:11 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:13:11 +0200 Subject: HW: tattoos Message-ID: Hi! Is there a pages where is HW tattoos? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Mar 11 13:27:50 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:27:50 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Synchronicity Moment No 47. Message-ID: 47. Yer What?! Whatdya Mean Arthur Browns Kingdom Come Ok so I'm mindng my own business doing some tech support at one of our sattelite offices. Now in the office below them is a drug and alcohol advisory charity, who I've occasionally done support for/donated equipment to. They're really nice people, and pretty chilled out. I was explaining to them how I met Arin K, following Hawkwind on tour. Anyway, the guy pipes up, is Del Dettmar stilla round then? At which point I'm thinking closet Hawkwind fan :-) Then he goes: Oh yes, me Del and Eno were going to do a triple synth setup at the first Glastonbury, but it never came off ;-) It turns out this guy is (Julian) Paul Brown, Synth Player for Arthur Browns Kingdom Come 71-72. He was telling me about how many of the same gigs they'd been at with the Hawks, specially one in Leeds where he remembers the Hawkwind Roadies carrying fans into the venue, and leaning them up against things because they were so out of it :-) All this time and I never knew who he was..lol. I'll have another trip down to do some tech support, and try and acquire some further anecdotes I said to him it was a bit of a change of career synth player with Arthur Brown, to Drug and Alcohol Charity, to which he replied, NOT REALLY..(smirking) Rich W From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Mon Mar 11 14:20:25 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 19:20:25 -0000 Subject: HW: freak emporium march mail out Message-ID: hey - I've just read that again - it's even worse!! - they were there? in '76? - jeez, they must have been very lonely!!!! Andy G (in humour mode) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris W" To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 11:49 PM Subject: Re: HW: freak emporium march mail out > What? Again!? *sigh* > > > On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:58:17 +0100, Andreas Stuewe ONLINE.DE> wrote: > > >Hawkwind - Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin. CD, GBP7.99. Live show > >from the Empire Pool, Wembley back in 1976. It's the classic line-up > >and includes a slew of major tunes, including "Urban Guerilla," > >"Masters Of The Universe," "Sonic Attack" and "Silver Machine." We > >think this was a heck of a show - some of us were there! > >http://www.freakemporium.com/cgi-bin/product.cgi?HACD129 > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Mar 11 17:20:00 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:20:00 +0000 Subject: OFF: "Helpful tips for BOC users - serious mail" In-Reply-To: <167.70ba711.2971dd40@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Michael W Blackman wrote: > If you find non related topics bothersome to your inbox try this > > in the BOC registry > http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=boc-l&A=1 > > >>scroll down the page once you have arrived there << > > you will see a check box that says >>> Other (messages with unknown topic) > > If you unselect this check box (( click on it so there is no arrow )) > > you will only recieve posts that are related eg: HW - BOC - ADMIN - brain - > NIK > > try it > > its easy - painless - and some will find that their tubes of preperation H > will go much further thus saving money.... Whatever that means - I'm not sure You don't really have the idea yet, do you? When the good Mr Gilham informed you that this was not a chat room he was not messing you about. You keep calling it a chat list, but it's not. And only the most uptight would mind a little deviation from strict topic, but I myself like BOC-L for its content, the information, the things I learn. Also the things that make me laugh. Almost everyone who posts to the list provides one or the other. Can you please learn one of them at least (hint: I don't think Python quotes or toilet humour really enhance things much)? I enclose below an old message from the good Mr Ben Cohen who presumably blocked a long time ago and posted you something similar anyway, but because I care (!) here it is (again). It's do to with what OFF is as far as this list goes. Please please take it on board. Yours, Jon On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Ben Cohen wrote: > > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:23:43 -0400 > From: Ben Cohen > Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: ADMIN: What's "off-topic" really there for? > > Note - in the moderator's opinion (that's me, folks, in case anyone forgot... > :-), this is probably the best summary of what's ok for off-topic discussions. > I think one other factor is that they're generally for things that are not > considered serious topics somewhere else, so major, world-shaking, > news-breaking events, usually don't get consideration here since there's > probably already at least 1 other place where they would be better discussed. > > Anyone who didn't read this when it came around should take a moment and do > so... [Heck, even if you did read it the first time around, give it another > shot. :-)] > > Ben Cohen, > Moderator, BOC-L > > >My understanding of the "off-topic" was that it was a musical one so > >that the occasional non Hawkwind or BOC related bands could be chattered > >about for a few messages without raising dust from folk complaining that > >a new discussion group ought to be formed or that the talk should be > >taken off-line or whatever. This was also extended to cover topics > >that only tenuously related to the bands. However I think it was the > >general understanding that discussion on off-topics should (a) be > >restricted to only a few messages (b) that generally speaking it should > >relate, however tenuously, to aspects of music or to the bands in > >question and (c) if the discussion went on at any length it should be > >taken off-list to be continued elsewhere. > > > >This has in practice meant the occasional fascinating observations on > >all sorts of topics ranging from warfare through philosophy and religion > >and politics, social and economic studies and heaven knows what. > >There are occasions where off-topic discussions have gone on for such > >length that they have almost taken over the list. But this is > >rare. Mostly when someone asks for a topic to be moved then the > >discussion shifts elsewhere. > -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Mar 11 18:15:53 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:15:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: "Helpful tips for BOC users - serious mail" Message-ID: This is the ONLY time I will EVER make such a "me too" post (and if anyone else needs to make "me too" posts, PLEASE follow this example and snip the original message down to its pertient bits, although in this case, Jon's entire text was 100% pertinent) ... On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:20:00 +0000, Jon Jarrett wrote: > You don't really have the idea yet, do you? When the good Mr >Gilham informed you that this was not a chat room he was not messing you >about... [snip!] Yes! Exactly! Thank you for posting this, Jon! -Doug (who promises to make up for this with some actual content) jasret at mindspring.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Mar 11 18:28:56 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:28:56 -0000 Subject: OFF: "Helpful tips for BOC users - serious mail" Message-ID: Yup. > This is the ONLY time I will EVER make such a "me too" post (and if anyone > else needs to make "me too" posts, PLEASE follow this example and snip the > original message down to its pertient bits, although in this case, Jon's > entire text was 100% pertinent) ... > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Mar 11 21:34:17 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:34:17 -0500 Subject: HW: Lucky Leif revisited (plus trivia Q) Message-ID: As promised, actual Hawkwind-related content, about the joys of (re-) discovering a great album ... Yeah, it's the Calvert album that people always slag off or just ignore. Fortunately, when listening with the correct mindset, the album is easily up there with 'Captain Lockheed' and 'Hype'. The trick is to treat it like 'Captain Lockheed' and 'Freq' - that is, as a collection of songs interspersed with "expository" material (with the 'Lockheed' sketches and the 'Hype' interviews as the "expository" parts). With 'Lucky Leif', it's more difficult to recognize the "expository" parts because, unlike the other two albums, they're *songs*, not sketches or interviews. So ... if one takes 'Lucky Leif' and leaves out: the fake surf-pop song ("Lay of the Surfers"), the fake folk dirge ("Voyaging to Vinland"), the processed poem ("Making of Midgard"), the fake carribean song ("Magical Potion"), the fake country song ("Moonshine in the Mountains"), the avant-garde snippet ("Phase-Locked Loop"), and the fake jazz ("Volstead Vodeo Do") ... you wind up with an INCREDIBLE mini-album/EP. Because on "Ship of Fools", "Brave New World", "Storm Chant of the Skraelings", and "Ragna Rock", the Rudolph/Eno/Nichols (etc. but those seem to be the three main players) band isn't faking anything. It's not exactly spacerock (although Eno's synth work is top-notch on "Ship of Fools" and "Storm Chant"), but each of the four songs has its own identity and is great in its own right! "Brave New World" just might be the best *pop* song to come out of anyone in the Hawkwind camp, catchier even than Bob's best songs on 'Hype'. "Storm Chant" is experimental AND rocks, with its cool malevolent synth bed. And "Ragna Rock" is appropriately apocalyptic. Program your CD player for these four songs and let me know what you think ... The only problem with this approach is that the "real songs" take up about 2/3-3/4 of 'Captain Lockheed', about 4/5 of 'Hype', but slightly under half of 'Lucky Leif'. (Now, who can tape/burn me a copy of the "Cricket Star" flexi?) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com P.S. I've been listening to 'Captain Lockheed' and 'Lucky Leif' quite a bit recently, because they fall into the same category as these albums: Matching Mole - 'Little Red Record' John Cale - 'Fear' Nico - 'The End' Lady June Campbell-Cramer - 'Lady June's Linguistic Leprosy' John Cale - 'Slow Dazzle' Robert Wyatt - 'Ruth is Stranger than Richard' Phil Manzanera - 'Diamond Head' John Cale - 'Helen of Troy' TRIVIA QUESTION: who here (besides KK - which is a major hint!) knows what these ten albums have in common? P.P.S. This guy isn't our Dave(id) Brock, either: http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,665933,00.html But you already knew about that, right? From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Mar 11 22:20:58 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:20:58 EST Subject: HW: Lucky Leif revisited (plus trivia Q) Message-ID: Eno? I know he's on the Cale LP's, Lady June's (I always thought that was a funny LP, but a real fart musically) and Manzanera at least bob In a message dated 3/11/2002 9:37:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > P.S. I've been listening to 'Captain Lockheed' and 'Lucky Leif' quite a bit > recently, because they fall into the same category as these albums: > Matching Mole - 'Little Red Record' > John Cale - 'Fear' > Nico - 'The End' > Lady June Campbell-Cramer - 'Lady June's Linguistic Leprosy' > John Cale - 'Slow Dazzle' > Robert Wyatt - 'Ruth is Stranger than Richard' > Phil Manzanera - 'Diamond Head' > John Cale - 'Helen of Troy' > TRIVIA QUESTION: who here (besides KK - which is a major hint!) knows what > these ten albums have in common? > > P.P.S. This guy isn't our Dave(id) Brock, either: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,665933,00.html > But you already knew about that, right? From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Mon Mar 11 23:48:50 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:48:50 -0000 Subject: HW: Lucky Leif revisited (plus trivia Q) Message-ID: Opium Arts, maybe?? Also, is this programme on BBC1 (UK), the BBC documentary thats been in the pipeline on Mission Control for several months. Latest listing that I read had a definitie mention of Hawkwind (and Led Zep). Wednesday 22:35 GMT - BBC1 UK -- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Lennon" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:20 AM Subject: Re: HW: Lucky Leif revisited (plus trivia Q) > Eno? I know he's on the Cale LP's, Lady June's (I always thought that was a > funny LP, but a real fart musically) and Manzanera at least > bob > > In a message dated 3/11/2002 9:37:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > > > > P.S. I've been listening to 'Captain Lockheed' and 'Lucky Leif' quite a bit > > recently, because they fall into the same category as these albums: [list of albums and link snipped] From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Mar 12 01:40:40 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 01:40:40 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/9 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck 3/9 (thanks again to everyone who participated...) 1.F/i-- title-track (Blue Star; RRRecords) 2.Mandragora Lightshow Society-- "Petpetuum Morality" (Beyond the Mushroam Gate; Liquid Sound) 3.Hawkwind-- "Interstellar Overdrive" 4.Triple 0-- "Part III: Pour produire..." (Crypto Sensus; Musea/Gazul) 5.Lightning Bolt-- "Murk Hike" (ST'd; Load) 6.Chrome-- "Riding You" (The Visitation; Dossier) 7.ST 37-- "Ghosts of Tempera Nymphs" (Invisible College; Over and Out) 8.Muz-- "Karl Eats Rocks and there was this Hippy.../Spit Valve; Banana in Portugese; Tekito) 9.Afresco Mantis-- "The Yarn of Many/The Universe Shines Tonight" (Harris Tweed EP; Freaky Fungi) 10.Steve Hillage-- "Talking to the Sun" (Live Herald; Virgin) 11.Gong-- "I've Been Stone Before Mr. Longshanks O Mother" (Est Mort; Tapioca) 12.Frank Zappa-- "Rubber Shirt" (Sheik Yerbouti; Rykodisc) 13.Plexus-- "Asia Minor" (ST'd; Mother West) 14.Tone Float-- "Tonight We Sleep w/the Eggroll King " (Musik von...; Timothy's Brain) 15.Saddar Bazaar-- "Tones and Waves" (Path of the Rose; Delerium) 16.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Darkness" (The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of...; Stone Premonitions) 17.Kelly Stoltz-- "Tubes in the Moonlight" (Antique Glow) 18.Neutral Milk Hotel-- "Someone is Waiting/A Baby for Pree" (On Avery Island: 1995; Merge) 19.Census of Hallucinations-- "Give Us Back Our Heaven/Jangling Waters of the Tibetan Incontinent Old Bastard" (The 4th Dimension; Stone Premonitions) 20.Mazinga Phaser-- "Scattered, Smothered and Covered" (Dissatisfied Customers of Hallucination; MM Idol) 21.Pretty Things-- "Defecting Grey" (SF Sorrow bonus track; Snapper) 22.Mushroom-- "Magic of Michael" (Analog Hi-fi Surprise; Innerspace) 23.Damo Suzuki's Network-- "Walking on Fire On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:20:58 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: >Eno? We have a winner! He performs on them all. >I know he's on the Cale LP's, Lady June's (I always thought that was a >funny LP, but a real fart musically) It's a weird one. The kind of thing I enjoy when I'm in the mood for the whimsical side of Kevin Ayers (the main musician on the album) or Daevid Allen. >and Manzanera at least ... all good stuff IMO. The Nico album is almost proto-Goth (she's spookier than Siouxie, that's for sure), and the Wyatt (including Matching Mole) albums are good examples of how fusion didn't *have* to be a boring, head-up-its-ass genre (but no one was paying attention, so it was, oh well). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >> Matching Mole - 'Little Red Record' ++ Robert Calvert - 'Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters' >> John Cale - 'Fear' >> Nico - 'The End' >> Lady June Campbell-Cramer - 'Lady June's Linguistic Leprosy' >> John Cale - 'Slow Dazzle' >> Robert Wyatt - 'Ruth is Stranger than Richard' >> Phil Manzanera - 'Diamond Head' ++ Robert Calvert - 'Lucky Leif and the Longships' >> John Cale - 'Helen of Troy' From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Mar 12 04:45:37 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:45:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: trivia Q (was: Lucky Leif revisited) In-Reply-To: <200203120754.CAA21215@listserv.spc.edu>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 02:54:33AM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 02:54:33AM -0500, Doug Pearson wrote: > The Nico album is almost proto-Goth (she's > spookier than Siouxie, that's for sure) You mean somebody besides Nico did "The End"?!? Oh yeah, they used some other version in a movie once :-) Seriously: for sheer bleak, suicidal depression, her version outdoes the Doors' any day. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From novadrive at COX.NET Tue Mar 12 08:47:08 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:47:08 -0700 Subject: tattoos In-Reply-To: <20020311171311.28C0123D11@velli.mail.jippii.net> Message-ID: I expressed interest a while back about starting one, but got only got a couple of replies and one set of pictures (thanks, Wilfried).... KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Miikka Wagner > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:13 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: tattoos > > > Hi! > > Is there a pages where is HW tattoos? > > Miikka Wagner > email: micci at sci.fi > > Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind > http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci > email: finn.wind at sci.fi From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Tue Mar 12 08:57:23 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:57:23 UT Subject: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare Message-ID: >There is also a painting at The Met in NYC by Max >Ernst called "Revolution >By Night." You can see it here: > >http://www.ze-card.com/images/ernst/ernst7.htm > >Brian Not really related, but I'm reading the Neil Gaiman novel "Good Omens" right now. There's a part where a Hell's Angel comes face to face with Death and says something to the affect of, "I saw you on the cover of that Blue Oyster Cult album". (I'm paraphrasing) Gaiman's newest novel, "American Gods", also put me in mind of BOC in a way, because it's about all the "old gods" and legends that immigrants brought with them from other countries fighting for their survival against America's new gods. . . technology, capitalism and the like. There's not any connection to Old Gods Return or anything, but I was reading the book when Curse of the Hidden Mirror came out, so it just kinda struck me that way. --Nick From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 12 09:12:35 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:12:35 EST Subject: tattoos Message-ID: >>>I expressed interest a while back about starting >>>one, but got only got a >>>couple of replies and one set of pictures (thanks, >>>Wilfried).... I must have been away when that happened.... whats the deal.... I've been thinking about getting a HW tattoo to go with my colourful egyptian scarrab beetle From mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM Tue Mar 12 11:39:08 2002 From: mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM (Le Duc De Montfort) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:39:08 -0500 Subject: HW BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare In-Reply-To: <200203121357.IAA62081@www1524.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: This takes us back to Hawkwind.. but I'm reading "The Black Corridor" by Mike Moorcock.. which I never had before. If you don't know it starts with the poem about Space is Deep word for word.. obviously he wrote that (DUH!!) Anyway picking up the book and seeing that at the very beginning and hearing Calvert's voice in my mind.. very powerful. Oh and this is in the Omnibus edition entitled Sailing to Utopia.. and the Black Corridor section is dedicated to Bob. Le Duc ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Nick English ::Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:57 AM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: Re: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare :: :: ::>There is also a painting at The Met in NYC by Max ::>Ernst called "Revolution ::>By Night." You can see it here: ::> ::>http://www.ze-card.com/images/ernst/ernst7.htm ::> ::>Brian :: :: ::Not really related, but I'm reading the Neil Gaiman novel "Good ::Omens" right now. There's a part where a Hell's Angel comes face ::to face with Death and says something to the affect of, "I saw ::you on the cover of that Blue Oyster Cult album". (I'm paraphrasing) :: ::Gaiman's newest novel, "American Gods", also put me in mind of ::BOC in a way, because it's about all the "old gods" and legends ::that immigrants brought with them from other countries fighting ::for their survival against America's new gods. . . technology, ::capitalism and the like. There's not any connection to Old Gods ::Return or anything, but I was reading the book when Curse of the ::Hidden Mirror came out, so it just kinda struck me that way. :: ::--Nick _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Tue Mar 12 12:27:45 2002 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:27:45 +0000 Subject: BOC: Junkers Jommo 004 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: UK Channel 4 tonight, 8pm: Battle Stations. You saw the Soviet T34 tank and the Supermarine Spitfire in this series. But this week's WW2 technology is the prince of turbojet: Messerschmitt Me262 - Mike Godwin From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Mar 12 12:38:09 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:38:09 -0000 Subject: HW/OFF: Brock article...? Message-ID: Today's Guardian has an article by one 'David Brock' entitled: "How I Almost Brought Down The President" the leader "For years David Brock was one of the rightwing journalists who hounded Bill Clinton with allegations of sexual impropriety, abuse of power, even drug-running. Then he changed sides. Here, for the first time, he reveals who was at the heart of the conspiracy to destroy the president." I dare say it can be found somewhere at www.guardian.co.uk Nick From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Mar 12 12:49:40 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:49:40 EST Subject: OFF: trivia Q (was: Lucky Leif revisited) ENO Message-ID: In a message dated 3/12/2002 2:56:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:20:58 EST, Bob Lennon wrote: > >Eno? > > We have a winner! He performs on them all. that list goes on forever. Eno has appeared on, produced, etc more artists' recordings than I can remember, inculding the 1st 2 Calvert solos. bob From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Mar 12 13:52:18 2002 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:52:18 -0800 Subject: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare Message-ID: > Not really related, but I'm reading the Neil Gaiman novel "Good Omens" right now. There's a part where a Hell's Angel comes face to face with Death and says something to the affect of, "I saw you on the cover of that Blue Oyster Cult album". (I'm paraphrasing) I heartily reccomend this book to everyone. It's actually Gaiman and Terry Pratchett, and is, as you may assume when you see that name, extremely funny. It's an apocalypse story, where things don't go quite the way they're planned..... scorch From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Mar 12 14:05:36 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:05:36 +0000 Subject: HW: Damned by the curse of Damned (was Re: Greasy Truckers Party 2001) In-Reply-To: <001101c1a150$909f7730$aa4723d9@bernard>; from rich@BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 01:19:53AM -0000 Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 01:19:53AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed out: > > > > > > Well, former Sisters man Wayne Hussey had that execrable band The > Mission > > > (whatever happened to them? They were huge in the mid-80s) > > The Mission - Fields of the Nephilim - Zodiac Mindwarp - Gaye Bykers on > Acid - Hawkwind. > > Easy. > > :-) Okay, you win. What's the link from GBoA to HW? Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Tue Mar 12 18:13:30 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:13:30 -0000 Subject: OFF: Astralasia Message-ID: Absolutely - flamin' amazing - their best album to date - stunning!!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia Astralasia: Anyone heard the New Astralasia CD, if so what's the verdict. Rich W From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Mar 12 18:33:20 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich w) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:33:20 -0600 Subject: OFF: Astralasia Message-ID: lol well I hope it's better than White Bird, which was sucking severely when I listened to it earlier today. I am awaiting the arrival of the new CD with anticipation. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Garibaldi To: Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Astralasia > Absolutely - flamin' amazing - their best album to date - stunning!!!!! > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:18 PM > Subject: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia > > Astralasia: > > Anyone heard the New Astralasia CD, if so what's the verdict. > > > Rich W From rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM Tue Mar 12 19:50:44 2002 From: rpmanny at SPRYNET.COM (RPManny) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:50:44 -0500 Subject: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare Message-ID: I second the recommendation. This is a funny-as-hell book about the end of the world. When I'm feeling down, there's nothing like pulling down a book about the end of the world and the "four button-pushers of the apocalypse". Picks me right up every time. Richard > > Not really related, but I'm reading the Neil Gaiman novel "Good Omens" right > now. There's a part where a Hell's Angel comes face to face with Death and says > something to the affect of, "I saw you on the cover of that Blue Oyster Cult > album". (I'm paraphrasing) > > > > > I heartily reccomend this book to everyone. It's actually Gaiman and > Terry Pratchett, and is, as you may assume when you see that name, > extremely funny. It's an apocalypse story, where things don't go quite > the way they're planned..... > > > scorch > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Mar 12 20:03:34 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 01:03:34 -0000 Subject: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare Message-ID: > > Not really related, but I'm reading the Neil Gaiman novel "Good Omens" right now. Not wanting to be picky, but it's by Terry Pratchett AND Neil Gaiman. :-) R. From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Tue Mar 12 22:29:16 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:29:16 -0600 Subject: off: Bottom Message-ID: Bottom have hit the road. Fans of stoner rock should check them out. 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Pffft Pusht! Pffff Pusht! (shake shake shake) PFfff (droop, escaping air sound) (gag, cough, choke choke)(sudden look of concern)(waving and flailing) ...Michael quick!.(cough)..this 1978 can of vintage "Over To You" whoop-ass only had enough to throw up a screen, and besides that it wouldn't save you or me anyway if we don't run,,,,,so RUN! (extends hand )(picture the first Sabbath LP cover for Johnny's likeness)(or is that Johnnie?)...(conversing to Michael as they run like silly school pranksters out too late on Halloween, in jumpy, out-of-breath, slightly panicked but somehow excited tone) "boy you really pick some great ones to annoy in here, alien dude" . "what's your excuse? mmmm?", and "this one's costing you since I couldn't find your buddies anywhere in sight"...."lucky I had a long-sleeve shirt on or else my elbow grease wouldn't have 'looked right' in the illusion" anyway, lets go practice our BOC-L nettiquette, I nabbed a bunch of Doug P's old messages, so we'll have a good model of most of the major "moves", and I think we got some "swazzlie" ones in there too!!" (still lumbering away as out-of-breath pants increase, gait slowing a bit).... "and your timing man"..."PHEW"! lol! "lets head back to Yahoo list and make a wishbone out of Layla and see who wins?" that'll be good to clear your mind, then we can buckle down and study all these cool tricks that some BOC-L'ers are applying so mightily fast and with lightning sharp precision!" ....."like restraint!" "I can't WAIT to know that one" (now becomming tiny bodies out beyond BOC-L and far enough away to escape the danger)....for now,,... (the tiny faint faint faint glowing of JUNIORS EYES is all but dimimished to nothing as the tiny bouncing dots are only seen when he turns back to speak at the one posing as a wizard dude dude, who is anxious to shed the "stume", and to clean up the scattered pics before someone looks in there:-) ps - to THE REAL JON....Hi,,I had forgotten this is a (subject oriented) DISCUSSION list myself, since I am so used to the daily lunacy of the other one's I am on...I CAME, I READ, I UNDERSTOOD....MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!! cheers must go now to -"lose the ooze" LOL haha (nothing to do with BOC-L in origin, but applied here) > You don't really have the idea yet, do you? When the good Mr >Gilham informed you that this was not a chat room he was not messing you >about. You keep calling it a chat list, but it's not. And only the most >uptight would mind a little deviation from strict topic, but I myself like >BOC-L for its content, the information, the things I learn. Also the >things that make me laugh. Almost everyone who posts to the list provides >one or the other. Can you please learn one of them at least (hint: I don't >think Python quotes or toilet humour really enhance things much)? > > I enclose below an old message from the good Mr Ben Cohen who >presumably blocked a long time ago and >posted you something similar anyway, but because I care (!) here it >is (again). It's do to with what OFF is as far as this list goes. Please >please take it on board. Yours, > Jon From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Mar 13 02:25:45 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:25:45 -0800 Subject: HW: ICU: Fwd: SB II Message-ID: I know that some of you have this already, but if you haven't heard about it yet ... >SPIRITS BURNING space rock project, new release: "Reflections In A Radio >Shower" > > The new Spirits Burning CD features Daevid Allen, Robert Calvert, > Thom The World Poet,, members of Mushroom and ST37, ICU's Judge Trev, > Don "Spaceship Eyes" Falcone, Quarkspace's Paul Williams, and many more >musicians. > The CD is titled "Reflections In A Radio Shower" and was just released on > Gazul Records, a sublabel of Musea. Below is the information from the > Musea web site,. A one sheet for this album (as well as other Musea > releases) can be found at: > http://217.128.227.4/Infosheet/index.htm > > In case you missed it, this is the second Spirits Burning CD. The debut > CD, "New Worlds By Design" also features the voice and guitar of Daevid > Allen, as well as performances by Mal Mooney (Can), Steven Wilson > (Porcupine Tree) and many others. > > For more information on Spirits Burning, visit: > http://home.earthlink.net/~falcone/sbmain.html > > >========================================================================================= > > SPIRITS BURNING "Reflections In A Radio Shower" > > SPIRITS BURNING est une formation ponctuelle form?e de la cr?me des > musiciens anciens ou actuels, officiant dans le domaine du Rock > Progressif, des musiques nouvelles, du n?o-psych?d?lisme et du > Krautrock. Le ma?tre d??uvre du projet est le clavi?riste Don FALCONE, > membre ?minent de TRAP & SPACESHIP EYES. Apr?s le succ?s de "New Worlds > By Design", le collectif d?jant? revient en l?an 2002 avec "Reflections > On A Radio Shower." On y retrouve toujours le guitariste-chanteur Daevid > ALLEN (GONG) et le batteur Paul WILLIAMS (QUARKSPACE), en compagnie de > Karen ANDERSON (SPACESHIP EYES) et autre Knut GERWERS (THE MOOR). Une > foule d'autres invit?s contribue grandement ? agr?menter une musique > aventureuse qui revisite l'ensemble des styles originaux de ses > participants. Les miracles de la technologie ont m?me permis de convier > aux r?jouissances une l?gende aujourd?hui d?c?d?e, Robert CALVERT > (HAWKWIND) > > SPIRITS BURNING is a spontaneous band composed of the best former and > current musicians, working in the fields of Progressive Rock, New Music, > Nu-Psychedelic and Krautrock. The project initiator is keyboardist Don > FALCONE, an eminent TRAP & SPACESHIP EYES member. After the success of > " New Worlds By Design," the crazy posse is back in 2002 with " > Reflections On A Radio Shower ". Guitarist-singer Daevid ALLEN > (GONG) and drummer Paul WILLIAMS (QUARKSPACE) in association with Karen > ANDERSON (SPACESHIP EYES) and Knut GERWERS (THE MOOR) take part to this > opus. Lots of other guests contribute to the improvement of an > adventurous music revisiting the influences of its participants. The > miracles of technology allow the participation of the legendary Robert > CALVERT (HAWKWIND), now deceased > > Track Listing: > > SECOND DEGREE SOUL SPARKS > NEW SPELL > DRIVE-BY POETRY > RETROSPECTRE > CLEAR AUDIENT > I?LL GIVE YOU CUMULUS > HIDDEN ROPE TRICK > GODS AT THE TOP OF THE WORLD > EYE=1 > BIRD SWARMY LOOP > INTELLIGNET SPARKLING FISH > BLOOD & OXYGEN > WALKING SHADOW > THE IDLE HOURS OF THE FRUIT FLY > CLOUDS OF HYPNO SMOKE > ELLIPTICAL ORBITS From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Mar 13 05:57:09 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:57:09 +1100 Subject: OFF:"Helpful tips for dealing with THE OOZE" Message-ID: Alway's liked Johnny Blade. I dont hate that album. Quite like most of it really. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny Blade" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Re: OFF:"Helpful tips for dealing with THE OOZE" > "Johnny" (you know he's a spider)- (calmly appears on-scene and can be > witnessed rolling up sleeves)- THEN-(with an overdone air of satisfaction > and something almost like pleasure)-Pusht! Pffft Pusht! Pffff Pusht! > (shake shake shake) PFfff (droop, escaping air sound) (gag, cough, choke > choke)(sudden look of concern)(waving and flailing) ...Michael > quick!.(cough)..this 1978 can of vintage "Over To You" whoop-ass only had > enough to throw up a screen, and besides that it wouldn't save you or me > anyway if we don't run,,,,,so RUN! (extends hand )(picture the first > Sabbath LP cover for Johnny's likeness)(or is that Johnnie?)...(conversing > to Michael as they run like silly school pranksters out too late on > Halloween, in jumpy, out-of-breath, slightly panicked but somehow excited > tone) "boy you really pick some great ones to annoy in here, alien dude" . > "what's your excuse? mmmm?", and "this one's costing you since I couldn't > find your buddies anywhere in sight"...."lucky I had a long-sleeve shirt > on or else my elbow grease wouldn't have 'looked right' in the illusion" > anyway, lets go practice our > BOC-L nettiquette, I nabbed a bunch of Doug P's old messages, so we'll have > a good model of most of the major "moves", and I think we got some > "swazzlie" ones in there too!!" (still lumbering away as out-of-breath > pants increase, gait slowing a bit).... > "and your timing man"..."PHEW"! lol! "lets head back to Yahoo list and > make a wishbone out of Layla and see who wins?" that'll be good to clear > your mind, then we can buckle down and study all these cool tricks that > some BOC-L'ers are applying so mightily fast and with lightning sharp > precision!" ....."like restraint!" "I can't WAIT to know that one" (now > becomming tiny bodies out beyond BOC-L and far enough away to escape the > danger)....for now,,... > (the tiny faint faint faint glowing of JUNIORS EYES is all but dimimished > to nothing as the tiny bouncing dots are only seen when he turns back to > speak at the one posing as a wizard dude dude, who is anxious to shed the > "stume", and to clean up the scattered pics before someone looks in there:-) > ps - to THE REAL JON....Hi,,I had forgotten this is a (subject oriented) > DISCUSSION list myself, since I am so used to the daily lunacy of the other > one's I am on...I CAME, I READ, I UNDERSTOOD....MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!! > cheers > must go now to -"lose the ooze" LOL haha (nothing to do with BOC-L in > origin, but applied here) > > > > > You don't really have the idea yet, do you? When the good Mr > >Gilham informed you that this was not a chat room he was not messing you > >about. You keep calling it a chat list, but it's not. And only the most > >uptight would mind a little deviation from strict topic, but I myself like > >BOC-L for its content, the information, the things I learn. Also the > >things that make me laugh. Almost everyone who posts to the list provides > >one or the other. Can you please learn one of them at least (hint: I don't > >think Python quotes or toilet humour really enhance things much)? > > > > I enclose below an old message from the good Mr Ben Cohen who > >presumably blocked a long time ago and > >posted you something similar anyway, but because I care (!) here it > >is (again). It's do to with what OFF is as far as this list goes. Please > >please take it on board. Yours, > > Jon > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 13 05:55:11 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:55:11 +0000 Subject: OFF:"Helpful tips for dealing with THE OOZE"--Quickfire round In-Reply-To: ; from deltawave@METRONET.COM on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:10:04PM -0600 Message-ID: Mike, you're still in this game, for sure... I'll see your: On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:10:04PM -0600, Johnny Blade typed out: > "Johnny" (you know he's a spider)- (calmly appears on-scene and can be > witnessed rolling up sleeves)- THEN-(with an overdone air of satisfaction > and something almost like pleasure)-Pusht! Pffft Pusht! Pffff Pusht! > (shake shake shake) PFfff (droop, escaping air sound) (gag, cough, choke > choke)(sudden look of concern)(waving and flailing) ...Michael > quick!.(cough)..this 1978 can of vintage "Over To You" whoop-ass only had > enough to throw up a screen, and besides that it wouldn't save you or me > anyway if we don't run,,,,,so RUN! (extends hand )(picture the first > Sabbath LP cover for Johnny's likeness)(or is that Johnnie?)...(conversing > to Michael as they run like silly school pranksters out too late on > Halloween, in jumpy, out-of-breath, slightly panicked but somehow excited > tone) "boy you really pick some great ones to annoy in here, alien dude" . > "what's your excuse? mmmm?", and "this one's costing you since I couldn't > find your buddies anywhere in sight"...."lucky I had a long-sleeve shirt > on or else my elbow grease wouldn't have 'looked right' in the illusion" > anyway, lets go practice our > BOC-L nettiquette, I nabbed a bunch of Doug P's old messages, so we'll have > a good model of most of the major "moves", and I think we got some > "swazzlie" ones in there too!!" (still lumbering away as out-of-breath > pants increase, gait slowing a bit).... > "and your timing man"..."PHEW"! lol! "lets head back to Yahoo list and > make a wishbone out of Layla and see who wins?" that'll be good to clear > your mind, then we can buckle down and study all these cool tricks that > some BOC-L'ers are applying so mightily fast and with lightning sharp > precision!" ....."like restraint!" "I can't WAIT to know that one" (now > becomming tiny bodies out beyond BOC-L and far enough away to escape the > danger)....for now,,... > (the tiny faint faint faint glowing of JUNIORS EYES is all but dimimished > to nothing as the tiny bouncing dots are only seen when he turns back to > speak at the one posing as a wizard dude dude, who is anxious to shed the > "stume", and to clean up the scattered pics before someone looks in there:-) > ps - to THE REAL JON....Hi,,I had forgotten this is a (subject oriented) > DISCUSSION list myself, since I am so used to the daily lunacy of the other > one's I am on...I CAME, I READ, I UNDERSTOOD....MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!! > cheers > must go now to -"lose the ooze" LOL haha (nothing to do with BOC-L in > origin, but applied here) and raise you a: The wizard began to fade and was as suddenly gone. Johnny felt deflated; everyone was so happy when the wizard walked by. But suddenly he sensed a presence behind him, a flickering in and out of washes out eerie-cloured focus, in the shape of a man moving trans-dimensionally. The figure solidified briefly, and spoke to him with a knowing smile. "You're looking lost, Johnny. Have they craked your shell? Or are you just being hatched?" "I don't know man. I was just swinging my chain, and suddenly--"... he gestured, emptily, at the floor, the cigarette butts, the jars of cream half-empty, the coffee-mugs he couldn't remember drinking from. "I don't know how long I've been here. It's become my home." "That's what happens when you get in a tight spot," replied the figure, still washed with the phenomenon of luminosity. "And if you're in a situation like that, there's only one thing you can do." "You mean... " said Johnny, raising the hand which held the spray-can, the "Poopy" label hanging off on one side. "No man, there's no time for that. No two ways about with a broke wishbone. You have the advantage of um, informay-shun. Long-distance information. Remember, these are strange days." "I don't get it, man," said Johnny. "The restraints are too close. My mind is going, I can feel it... Everyone is telling me, `I am not interested in anything you have to say'... they are trying to rob us of our right to communicate...." "It's so easy, " said the figure as his colours began to weaken and his outline shaded off into the gloom. "It's a matter of transcending the norm. The media is the massage. It is an existence, within co-existence, it is not an entity. All you have to do is contribute. Who are the brain police?" Johnny boggled for a moment then, as the figure faded out completely it came to him. "Of course! We are the survivors! The eternal survivors! Androgynous energies, travelling through time! Come on people! I ain't going down to Heathrow by myself. It's light specific data, as long as the data's there whose lights you see it in is their problem! Stand back! I'm going to fly from the glory of the Blade!" And with that he twisted through half a dimension, became flat enough to pass down a fibre-optic cable and was gone down the ethernet, to an INBOX near you. He'll be back. In fact, I don't think he ever left... yours, Jon ObCD: Inner City Unit - _Passout_ ObChanceofAnotherMailBeingAnsweredInsideTenDaysOfSentDate: <3% -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 13 08:42:50 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:42:50 +0000 Subject: HW: Damned by the curse of Damned In-Reply-To: ; from nick@HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 06:06:36AM +0000 Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 06:06:36AM +0000, Nick Medford typed out: > In message <20020120011659.A7825 at chiark.greenend.org.uk>, > Jonathan Jarrett writes > > > >Link the following to Hawkwind (playing either the shortest- or > >lengthiest-link version, the link must have some creative input so > >producers count but support acts don't, cover versions isn't good enough, > >all other niggles to be settled arbitrarily by me as much as anyone... ) And Nick manages to do almost all of them without using any of the connections I was thinking of, well almost :-) > >1. Thin Lizzy > > Brian Robertson's stint with Motorhead, 'nuff said > > Also a link through Phil Collins, see under Genesis below And Snowy White played with TL, also in Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix for _New World's Fair_ (and of course with Dave Gilmour and Pink Floyd as addressed below). > >2. Deep Purple > > 1. Richie Blackmore- Rainbow- Bobby Rondinelli- BOC- Moorcock- > HW > > 2. Rainbow- Cozy Powell- ELP (in the brief period in the 80s when it > was Powell rather than Palmer)- Greg Lake- King Crimson- Robert > Fripp- David Bowie- Simon House > (see below for other Fripp links) > > 3. David Coverdale- Coverdale/Page- Led Zep- Roy Harper- HW > (either via Floyd, or Harper's playing with Huw, or Harper's brief intro > on "Do Not Panic", etc.) That was the one I was thinking of, but I like 2 better and really should have thought of 1. > >3. Chrome > > Helios Creed playing with Nik > > > >B. More obscure > > > >4. Genesis > > Hmmm... Brian Eno involvement on both Genesis "The Lamb Lies Down > on Broadway" and Calvert's "Lucky Lief and the Longships" That short-circuits what I was after, that both Collins and Paul Rudolph are on Eno albums (are they both on _Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy?_ > Robert Fripp has played with Peter Gabriel (on PG's second solo > album)... Fripp has also played with Bowie, another member of Bowie's > band at that time was one Simon House Blimey. _Stage_ is becoming an essential purchase. > Phil Collins guests on Thin Lizzy's "Johnny the Fox" album, see Lizzy > link above And back again through Snowy White... > Phil Collins (him again) played with the surviving members of Led Zep > at Live Aid, thus standard Zep- Roy Harper- HW link > > After Steve Hackett left Genesis, his backing band had a keyboard player > called Nick Magnus, who had briefly been a member of the Enid... HW > and the Enid both appear on the Stonehenge '84 video, and one of the > Enid's ex-members was in HW for about a nanosecond I think (Robbie > Dobson??) Not sure about that one... > >5. The MC5 > > Wayne Kramer playing with Mick Farren's Deviants > > Or the long way round... Wayne Kramer playing in Mad for the Racket > with Brian James, once of the Damned (them again)- thus opening up the > billion or so Damned-HW links as exhaustively discussed here before Him and the Pink Fairies/Deviants nexus was what I had in mind. > >6. Pink Floyd (okay, there are several ways to do this; if you can get > >more than three have a bonus point) > > 1. Through Roy Harper as above (sang on Floyd's "Have A Cigar", Dave > Gilmour plays on his "Unknown Soldier" album, etc.) > > 2. Syd Barrett's short-lived post-Floyd band Stars, which included > Twink on drums- standard Fairies/Hawks links > > 3. Roger Waters' most recent backing band included Snowy White, who > has played in a band with Huw (Blue Zone?).. I think.. if not, White was > a member of Thin Lizzy (them again)- see above Ah, you knew it already... > 4. Roger Waters' first post-Floyd band (Pros and Cons of Hitch-Hiking > album and tour) included Eric Clapton, who was in Cream with one > Ginger Baker Didn't know that. > 5. Nick Mason produced the Damned's "Music for Pleasure" album (the > Damned broke up for the first of many times during its recording and > subsequently disowned the resulting mess)- Damned-HW links as before He also produced Steve Hillage's _Green_ so you can link through Gong; that, Stars and the fact that Dave Giomour mixed the `Kerb Crawler' single were my favourites for inclusion here. > >C. Really quite surprising > > > >7. Mountain > > I'll have to pass here, I wouldn't know a member of Mountain if I saw > one busking on my doorstep. (did they do "Nantucket Sleighride"?) They did, and Leslie West their guitarist was in a band called West Bruce and Laing with a bandmate from Mountain and one Jack Bruce, who is one away from HW via the estimable Mr Baker of course... > >8. Therapy? > > No idea. This is a band for Young People, I think you only mention them > to taunt us with your youth. Although they did do a passable cover of Joy > Division's "Isolation". I stuck this in so as to be sure of there being one only I would know but was confuted :-) The link I was thinking of being that undeservedly unknown stoner outfit Clucth (in how many ways do they transcend that genre? Quite a few I can tell you) had a song on their last album written by and featuring Leslie West of Mountain linked as above, and their guitarist and vocalist were on the last Therapy? album. Which was four removes so I was quite pleased with that. Of course it got shortcircuited by their working with Ozzy. > >9. The Jimi Hendrix Experience (no, Lemmy roadying for them doesn't count, > >nor does Nik getting complimented by Jimi from the stage and in any case > >that wasn't the Experience... ) > > Terry Ollis has played with Noel Redding I believe. I know Terry O. is > in a band called Little Wing, so I'd guess that's the connection. > Alternatively it could have been in Road or Fat Mattress. I don't think Ollis has played with Redding. However, Mitch Mitchell has played in the same band as Jack Bruce, that being, um, oh, underbruce's name in 1971. > >10. Tangerine Dream (to get the point you need *two* independent > >connections) > > Well... I'll save this one for more serious thought. But I fear my TD > knowledge may be insufficient. The answers can be revealed, although we already got several. The ones I was thinking of were: firstly, Klaus Schulze who was on the first Tangerine dream album has a solo album which features Arthur Brown, who has of course performed with HW but if that isn't enough co-wrote and sang on `The Song of the Gremlin' on _Captain Lockheed_. secondly, and this no-one seems to know about, on the current TD website at I think there is a short biography of the band, by Edgar Froese (who ought to know, if not remember). It says there that initial TD line-ups, before the first album, were open to whoever turned up in the loft for that jam. Among people of note who did this he names... Nik Turner. One remove. > Meanwhile... can you (or anyone else) link HW with the following... > > The Who > Weather Report > The Moody Blues Instantly, no I can't. And I can't remember whether other people did, and anyway I have a bit of mail to answer :-) > and if you want improbable links, try these: > > Saxon > Montrose > Leo Sayer that one, easy, Huw played with him in the 70s (never been quiet sure when though, 1975?) The rest I leave to better obessionals than myself... Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Wed Mar 13 09:08:17 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:08:17 UT Subject: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare Message-ID: >> Not really related, but I'm reading the Neil >Gaiman novel "Good Omens" >right now. > >Not wanting to be picky, but it's by Terry >Pratchett AND Neil Gaiman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't remember how to spell Pratchett's name and didn't have the book in front of me. I'd rather my work be incomplete than misspelled. I think the funniest part has to be when Crowley, the demon, sends a copy of the licensing agreement from his computer to Hell's "contracts department" and tells them to take notes. Either that, or the fact that neither Heaven nor Hell seems to know which side parking enforcement officers actually work for. A hellish book. . . pardon the pun. --Nick From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 13 09:31:54 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:31:54 EST Subject: OFF:"Helpful tips for dealing with THE OOZE"--Quickfire round Message-ID: And with that he twisted through half a dimension, became flat enough to pass down a fibre-optic cable and was gone down the ethernet, to an INBOX near you. He'll be back. In fact, I don't think he ever left... yours, _______________________________ Meanwhile: Bruce, head surgeon at the Royal Flying Doctor and all round prescriber of pharmacuetical oddities, lay comatose after sniffing something up his nostrils and feeling so fine. As a matter of fact he was feeling so fine he felt like he was flying. He was discovered in the wee small hours by miss Kinky knickers, so named because of her bizzare sexual fettishes with whips - to spend a night with her was to feel the kiss of the velvet whip so the story goes. She discovered the drug cabinet key next to Bruce only to discover that the cabinet was bare. Bruce, feeling like the proverbial trans dimensional man, was having a wonderful time even if the voices kept repeating "you shouldn't do that - you shouldn't do that .... etc etc When all logic an reason came into focus and he realised the alien I am is me and that if he rejected the human touch then the power of levitation would be within his grasp - and he wished some one would beam him up. Because - as we all know - if you wanna get into it ... you gotta get out of itttttt...... From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 13 10:24:20 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:24:20 +0000 Subject: HW: Damned by the curse of Damned In-Reply-To: <025801c1a200$c8ac0160$0100a8c0@kermitz>; from sihalley@CABLEINET.CO.UK on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:21:17PM -0000 Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:21:17PM -0000, Si Halley typed out: > > Well, the Therapy? link still awaits uncovering... > > Therapy? backed Ozzy on a track on the Sabbath Covers album Nativity in > Black(Vol 1 or 2). Then Glenn Hughes and the Purple Way as previously > mentioned, or Dio and the Rainbow/Cozy way as also mentioned. As posted earlier, not the link I was expecting but a far simpler one than that one! > There`s also ways between Sabbath and HW via the Ant-bee album again of > course! I can't see that one; no-one in that line-up you posted seems to to have Sabbath in their pedigree, though Neal Smith allows a far more direct one to Blue Oyster Cult than I knew about as he drummed with them for a while, and the presence of Mothers of Invention on it opens up a whole new sea of links :-) What's the Sabbath link? Surely the simplest way to Sabbath is via Glenn Hughes or Ian Gillan through Deep Purple? > Oh, and Jack Endino produced Therapy? `Seamless` and Helios Creed`s `The > Last Laugh` so that`s shorter. Doesn't that give us one to Metallica also? Fun this innit, yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 13 10:47:00 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:47:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim In-Reply-To: <007e01c19f08$66f56ec0$aa4723d9@bernard>; from rich@BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed out: > (I'm going to get a kicking for this one...) > > After hearing so many good things about Mr Quimby's beard, I've finally sat > down and downloaded some tracks. Hmm. Splendid. If I'd never heard > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic. > > Maybe I need to get back to smoking those funny big herbal cigarettes > (Something I've not done for many a year now) but to me it sounds like a > bunch of blokes doing a very good Hawkwind impersonation. > > Emporer's new clothes, or have I missed the point? That was more or less the impression they gave at the Forum gig, but I think there's a shortage of such stuff around so I didn't really mind. The vocal styles are different, I don't think Hawkwind ever had a singer that sounded like that, but I'm yet to be sure whether or not I like it... (And I still haven't got any AP so don't know how that compares) What it lacks, to me, is the edge that HW seem to have got from not really knowing what it was they were doing. So it's as smooth as the later stuff, _Electric Tepee_ onwards, but has a feel more like _Live '79_ in terms of togetherness and structure. Not the ideal combination then, but still very good. Depends whether you're searching for something new or you don't mind getting the same trip recycled. I had given up expecting new things of the British side of the genre until I happened on _Return to Earth_ by Starfield which is certainly getting there. (I owe Captain Black a review still... ) Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Mar 13 12:03:41 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:03:41 -0500 Subject: HW: ICU: Fwd: SB II In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020312232303.009fd670@mail.mindspring.com>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:25:45PM -0800 Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:25:45PM -0800, Doug Pearson wrote: > > The new Spirits Burning CD features Daevid Allen, Robert Calvert, > > [...] Umm, The Other One, or old samples, or is it more like Spirits Channelling? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Wed Mar 13 13:15:13 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:15:13 -0000 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed out: > > (I'm going to get a kicking for this one...) > > > > After hearing so many good things about Mr Quimby's beard, I've finally sat > > down and downloaded some tracks. Hmm. Splendid. If I'd never heard > > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic. > > > > Maybe I need to get back to smoking those funny big herbal cigarettes > > (Something I've not done for many a year now) but to me it sounds like a > > bunch of blokes doing a very good Hawkwind impersonation. > > > > Emporer's new clothes, or have I missed the point? > > That was more or less the impression they gave at the Forum gig, > but I think there's a shortage of such stuff around so I didn't really > mind. The vocal styles are different, I don't think Hawkwind ever had a > singer that sounded like that, but I'm yet to be sure whether or not I > like it... (And I still haven't got any AP so don't know how that > compares) What it lacks, to me, is the edge that HW seem to have got from > not really knowing what it was they were doing. So it's as smooth as the > later stuff, _Electric Tepee_ onwards, but has a feel more like _Live '79_ > in terms of togetherness and structure. Not the ideal combination then, > but still very good. Depends whether you're searching for something new or > you don't mind getting the same trip recycled. I had given up expecting > new things of the British side of the genre until I happened on _Return to > Earth_ by Starfield which is certainly getting there. (I owe Captain Black > a review still... ) Yours, > Not again............ Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told about?? "Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something that belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ??? I know this will win me no friends but AP !!! come on, they've had a couple of ok'ish albums and the rest of their stuff is just self indulgent dribble with poorly played synths over the top. And if you're looking for something new you'll not find it on the Starfield album (which btw I really like). I don't think I've ever heard a band sound as close to HW as they do Jon. As for Mr Quimby's Beard, have either of you heard any of their albums ??? I can't imagine you have or you'd know that they draw from many other musical influences as well as HW. I'll put my neck on the line and say.... I think Mr Quimby's Beard are currently offering more to my favourite genre of music (Spacerock) than any other band including Hawkwind (who I've loved for many years), and that their album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of." is the best and most complete album I've heard since long before Electric Tepee. When you see them live as at the forum, supporting someone like Hawkwind, it is unfair to even try to compare the 2 acts, as, the headliner (HW) will have all afternoon to sound check (and rehearse) the opener (MQB) will be given (max) 20 mins if any time at all. The headliner is drawing from a catalogue of songs which some of us grew up listening to, the opener is playing you songs you're hearing for the first time. The headliner has 2 hours to impress, the opener 40 mins. The headliner is performing to a stoned or drunk audience, the opener to people still arriving and sober. The headliner has a full light show to add to the atmosphere and draw you in, the opener has a couple of spot lights (if they are lucky). The headliner has a truck load of expensive equipment and back ground personnel to ensure they sound great, the opener has so little room on stage that they are forced to down scale and use the minimum of equipment......I could continue.... and they still left a BIG impression on me.. Did anyone here see them Headlining in the states last year ??? If so did they impress or depress ??? :-} Tony Wilson From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Mar 13 13:17:46 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:17:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: Test Message-ID: Sorry, please ignore. From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Wed Mar 13 13:46:21 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:46:21 -0600 Subject: OFF: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: > Did anyone here see them Headlining in the states last year ??? If so did > they impress or depress ??? :-} > Tony Wilson Loved em. From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Mar 13 15:58:51 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:58:51 +0000 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: >"Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." Should be Hawkwind against every other band that just copies them! The headliner is performing to a >stoned or drunk audience, the opener to people still arriving and sober. The point is you don't have to be stoned for Hawkwind or any other superb musician to send shivers through your back brain unlike lessers and pretenders the opener has a couple of spot lights (if they are lucky). The headliner >has a truck load of expensive equipment and back ground personnel to >ensure Doesn't matter when RDF supported Hawkwind same restrictions no comprimise on musical quality At the end of the day apart from Lemmy, Turner and Calvert no one including Brock has been able to produce anything like the quality of the unit under Brock so consistantly. p.s. I'm not "Hawk-Blind" there are and have been many artists equally as good in their own fields but Space-Rock is Hawkwind Is Space-Rock _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:15:50 +0000 Subject: OFF : CDRDAO Problems Message-ID: Hi ya folks, A bit ago someone complained about getting clicks between tracks when burning disks DAO. I chipped in saying I had same problem and blamed the software. I think I just sussed what is going on and how to do DAO 'properly', you can't be lazey! I was wrong to say I had the same problem. My problem was getting silence between the tracks. Delay in screen up date led me to think it was about 2 sec before the end of the track. It is at the end. To get rid of clicks you need to pad the audio file to sector size. BUT if you do that the audio gets padded, with 0 up to sector size. If there is little padding you won't notice. If there is much padding you WILL notice if there is sound at the track break. So you can go for ages and everything is ok especially if you are just copying cdr's because track breaks will normally occur on sector boundarys. But then you copy a commercial cd and the silences come back. Led me to think some sort of mithical copy protection was responsible. If you use cdrdao it automatically pads when writing dao. The only way to get round the problem properly is to join the wav files together into one big wav file (or raw or cdr), or else edit the wavs so the data size is a multiple of sector size. I think the number is 4096, it also is the buffer size on many pc sound cards. If you need help joining wav's together ask and I show how. Tip for *NIX users: cdrdao uses the toc file to extract whatever part/parts of a wav(s) (or raw or cdr or isofs) are needed to create a track. So a continuouse wav file is easy to make a toc for. Also if you use cdrdao to copy a cd the correct toc file will be created for you, so you dont need to worry about it. If my understanding of this is wrong please enlighten me! Does anyone know what a p-q sub-channel is? Where is there info? Chris -- Hurewitz's Memory Principle: The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to ..... to ........ uh .............. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Mar 13 16:28:36 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:28:36 -0500 Subject: HW: ICU: Fwd: SB II Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:03:41 -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:25:45PM -0800, Doug Pearson wrote: >> > The new Spirits Burning CD features Daevid Allen, Robert Calvert, >> > [...] > >Umm, The Other One, or old samples, or is it more like Spirits >Channelling? Recordings of poetry recitation provided by Jill Riches Calvert. It may be from the 'Centigrade 232' tape, but I don't have that one, so I couldn't verify it one way or the other. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM Wed Mar 13 16:35:45 2002 From: spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM (SPACEHEAD) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:35:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: Tony Wilson wrote: Not again............ Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told about?? "Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something that belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ??? I'll put my neck on the line and say.... I think Mr Quimby's Beard are currently offering more to my favourite genre of music (Spacerock) than any other band including Hawkwind (who I've loved for many years), and that their album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of." is the best and most complete album I've heard since long before Electric Tepee. You obviuosly haven't heard any Spacehead yet. Check out our site www.spacehead.iwarp.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Mar 13 16:51:07 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:51:07 -0500 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:15:13 -0000, Tony Wilson wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed out: >> > (I'm going to get a kicking for this one...) >> > >> > After hearing so many good things about Mr Quimby's beard, I've finally >> > sat down and downloaded some tracks. Hmm. Splendid. If I'd never >> > heard Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic ... >> > >> > ... Emporer's new clothes, or have I missed the point? >> >> That was more or less the impression they gave at the Forum gig, >> but I think there's a shortage of such stuff around so I didn't really >> mind... > >Not again............ >Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told >about?? >"Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." >Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something that >belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ??? Well, since this IS a Hawkwind discussion list, it makes sense to me that describing other bands in terms of similarities/differences to Hawkwind is an important aspect of any critical analysis (or off-the-cuff opinion) of ANY band mentioned on-list. And I'd much rather read hard-hitting gloves- off criticisms (even of bands I like - even of Hawkwind [actually, ESPECIALLY of Hawkwind] - in my mind, the true fan is one who's not afraid to occasionally speak negatively of his/her idols, rather than mindlessly complimenting them at every opportunity) than a bunch of "these guys are great" "yeah, me too" posts (but hard-hitting criticisms should cover what's good/worthwhile about a band just as much as what isn't). >The headliner has a truck load of expensive equipment and back ground >personnel to ensure they sound great, the opener has so little room on >stage that they are forced to down scale and use the minimum of >equipment......I could continue.... >and they still left a BIG impression on me.. Tony, it's great that you like MQB. It's also great that Rich and Jon don't see what you like about MQB and can coherently explain why MQB doesn't do it for them. Just as it's fine that you don't like Alien Planetscapes, but I do. Or that I don't like Ozric Tentacles, but most of the people on this list do - they have their reasons for liking them; I have mine for not. Very good of you to bring up the "adversity" that opening (vs. headlining) bands have to deal with ... it's very rare that what you state is NOT the case. >Did anyone here see them Headlining in the states last year ??? If so did >they impress or depress ??? :-} Unfortunately, I didn't see them (they didn't make it out to the west coast), but I received a CD-R of one of their shows (thanks Keith! thanks Dan!), and have listened to it a few times. My opinion is, "good but not great" - they neither impressed nor depressed me (but I think I still prefer AP, and others - sorry!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Mar 13 14:16:57 2002 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:16:57 -0000 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Wilson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim TONY WILSON WROTE > Not again............ > Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told about?? > "Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." > Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something that > belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ??? > > > As for Mr Quimby's Beard, have either of you heard any of their albums ??? I > can't imagine you have or you'd know that they draw from many other musical > influences as well as HW. > I'll put my neck on the line and say.... I think Mr Quimby's Beard are > currently offering more to my favourite genre of music (Spacerock) than any > other band including Hawkwind (who I've loved for many years), and that > their album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of." is the best and most > complete album I've heard since long before Electric Tepee. wait till you hear the new Spacehead album, or check any of the previous ones!!!!!!! From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Mar 13 17:10:04 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:10:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Damned by the curse of Damned Message-ID: Hey! I'll joyfully ensure that this deceased equine is thoroughly beaten ... On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:42:50 +0000, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 06:06:36AM +0000, Nick Medford typed out: >> In message <20020120011659.A7825 at chiark.greenend.org.uk>, >> Jonathan Jarrett writes >> > >> >Link the following to Hawkwind (playing either the shortest- or >> >lengthiest-link version, the link must have some creative input so >> >producers count but support acts don't, cover versions isn't good >> >enough, all other niggles to be settled arbitrarily by me as much >> >as anyone... ) > > And Nick manages to do almost all of them without using any of the >connections I was thinking of, well almost :-) > >> >4. Genesis >> >> Hmmm... Brian Eno involvement on both Genesis "The Lamb Lies Down >> on Broadway" and Calvert's "Lucky Lief and the Longships" Actually, I've read that Brian Eno's only involvement with 'The Lamb...' is that Peter Gabriel borrowed his synth for some processing; no actual Eno contribution whatsoever. > That short-circuits what I was after, that both Collins and Paul >Rudolph are on Eno albums (are they both on _Taking Tiger Mountain by >Strategy?_ 'Tiger Mountain' is the only one of Eno's four "rock" albums that Paul Rudolph isn't on. There are some tracks on 'Another Green World' & 'Before and After Science' that use Rudolph & Collins together as the rhythm section, however (see my earlier post at: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi- bin/wa?A2=ind9912A&L=BOC-L&P=R4078 for a complete list of the Rudolph/Eno links in which I wrote: "Interesting selection of bands - King Crimson, Chris Spedding/Sharks, Ian Dury, Velvet Underground, Brand X, Can, Free, Fairport Convention (and Henry Cow?)."). On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:24:20 +0000, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:21:17PM -0000, Si Halley typed out: >> There`s also ways between Sabbath and HW via the Ant-bee album again of >> course! > > I can't see that one; no-one in that line-up you posted seems to >to have Sabbath in their pedigree, though Neal Smith allows a far more >direct one to Blue Oyster Cult than I knew about as he drummed with them >for a while, and the presence of Mothers of Invention on it opens up a >whole new sea of links :-) Another Zappa link would be that Jimmy Carl Black (of the Mothers of Invention) recorded an album ('Brown and Black' - how's that for originality?) with Arthur Brown in the 80's, when both were living in Texas. >> Oh, and Jack Endino produced Therapy? `Seamless` and Helios Creed`s `The >> Last Laugh` so that`s shorter. > > Doesn't that give us one to Metallica also? Not sure about Metallica, but 90% of the grunge bands that had late- 80s/early-90s releases on Sub Pop ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Mar 13 17:23:46 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:23:46 -0500 Subject: OFF : CDRDAO Problems In-Reply-To: <3C8FA565.236C6729@hawklord.uklinux.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 07:15:50PM +0000, Chris Gibbs wrote: [[Various CDDA "observations" deleted.]] Have you ever thought of working as a disinformation officer for the government? I think you'd be a natural. ;-) => Does anyone know what a p-q sub-channel is? Where is there info? You might try looking in an obvious place like http://www.cdrfaq.org. In particular, I recommend http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html#S2-6, which you might find enlightening. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Mar 13 16:55:14 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:55:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Test Message-ID: Phew,what a relief,i forgot to study(or was it a pop quiz??) tim 8>)... Andreas Stuewe wrote: > > Sorry, please ignore. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 13 21:38:28 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:38:28 -0500 Subject: HW: (perhaps) OFF: (more likely) Pharaoh Overlord, Mike Gunn Message-ID: Quickly... I noticed that John Perez is now offering the Circle offshoot (even more mind-numbingly hypno-krautrockish stuff than Circle themselves) Pharaoh Overlord's 1st CD for $12 at his www.brainticket.com site. Note also that this is the guy/label that will release the revised version of Farflung's Myth of Solid Ground, and has a number of Cranium releases licensed for the US. And also MandraGora Lightshow Society. And soon to be a second Liquid Sound Company. So potentially lots of things of boc-ler interest I might imagine. And a quick note that I just saw a CD copy of Mike Gunn's Durban Poison (with more stuff from another old LP of theirs) up on ebay.com. This is the band that spawned psych-droners Charalambides and heavy-psychsters Linus Pauling Quartet, and now is related to Hawkwind (in perhaps more ways than one?) since one guy from Mike Gunn now plays in Primordial Undermind (Austin TX version), a band that just recently featured (in the San Francisco version) one Doug Pearson, responsible to some unknown extent for (recording, mastering, releasing?) California Brainstorm (which is also up on ebay in several places) and for certain bits of insight about great albums that you have to 60% ignore to enjoy. :) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Does anybody have any recommendations for Psychotic Waltz? I have both of Dan Rock's post-PW Darkstar CDs and like them quite a bit and have heard good things about the now defunct PW. Is stuff of theirs oop and/or hard to find? BTW, I just snagged the Sampler CD by Cardiacs which will be my first taste of them finally. Still waiting to hear about Bic's upcoming Mikrokosmos CD on the "All My Eye And Betty Martin Music" label. Note that the Darkstar above of Dan Rock is no relation to the UK Darkstar that featured Bic Hayes so recently. Don't get me started! :) From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Mar 13 22:40:19 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 03:40:19 +0000 Subject: HW on tele Message-ID: Saw the "Rock Rules" programme on BBC1 tonight nice short interview with Lemmy and some lovely, though very short, footage of "Silver Machine" - TOTP, and "Brainstorm" live with Stacia dancing does anyone know where to find more of this , I presume, Space Ritual footage? Black Sabbath bit was ok as were Led Zeppelin and Quo. Also mentioned Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper, and Saxon. Best bit part from Hawks and Motorhead were some lovely clips of English chops in the seventies no crash helmets. Ride Free. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 13 23:59:27 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:59:27 EST Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: The headliner is performing to a >stoned or drunk audience, the opener to people still arriving and sober. The point is you don't have to be stoned for Hawkwind or any other superb musician to send shivers through your back brain unlike lessers and pretenders ______________________ 6 mOre BeErs Baarr keeP - and RolL uS anoTHer fAttY From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Mar 14 01:16:34 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 06:16:34 -0000 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: Hang on a minute... This is a reply to my original post, which was back in January... :-) I' m not trying to bring the subject up again! And no, I haven't sat down and listened to any MQB albums - as I said in the original post, just some stuff I downloaded from Morpheus (or somewhere). That's what I mainly use it for. Someone tells me about a band I might like, I'll download a few traks - if I like them then I'll go out and buy the albums. Nothing I've heard from MQB has made me want to do that yet. Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Wilson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed out: > > > (I'm going to get a kicking for this one...) > > > > > > After hearing so many good things about Mr Quimby's beard, I've finally > sat > > > down and downloaded some tracks. Hmm. Splendid. If I'd never heard > > > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic. > > > > > > Maybe I need to get back to smoking those funny big herbal cigarettes > > > (Something I've not done for many a year now) but to me it sounds like a > > > bunch of blokes doing a very good Hawkwind impersonation. > > > > > > Emporer's new clothes, or have I missed the point? > > > > That was more or less the impression they gave at the Forum gig, > > but I think there's a shortage of such stuff around so I didn't really > > mind. The vocal styles are different, I don't think Hawkwind ever had a > > singer that sounded like that, but I'm yet to be sure whether or not I > > like it... (And I still haven't got any AP so don't know how that > > compares) What it lacks, to me, is the edge that HW seem to have got from > > not really knowing what it was they were doing. So it's as smooth as the > > later stuff, _Electric Tepee_ onwards, but has a feel more like _Live '79_ > > in terms of togetherness and structure. Not the ideal combination then, > > but still very good. Depends whether you're searching for something new or > > you don't mind getting the same trip recycled. I had given up expecting > > new things of the British side of the genre until I happened on _Return to > > Earth_ by Starfield which is certainly getting there. (I owe Captain Black > > a review still... ) Yours, > > > > Not again............ > Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told about?? > "Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." > Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something that > belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ??? > > I know this will win me no friends but AP !!! come on, they've had a couple > of ok'ish albums and the rest of their stuff is just self indulgent dribble > with poorly played synths over the top. And if you're looking for something > new you'll not find it on the Starfield album (which btw I really like). I > don't think I've ever heard a band sound as close to HW as they do Jon. > > As for Mr Quimby's Beard, have either of you heard any of their albums ??? I > can't imagine you have or you'd know that they draw from many other musical > influences as well as HW. > I'll put my neck on the line and say.... I think Mr Quimby's Beard are > currently offering more to my favourite genre of music (Spacerock) than any > other band including Hawkwind (who I've loved for many years), and that > their album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of." is the best and most > complete album I've heard since long before Electric Tepee. > When you see them live as at the forum, supporting someone like Hawkwind, it > is unfair to even try to compare the 2 acts, as, the headliner (HW) will > have all afternoon to sound check (and rehearse) the opener (MQB) will be > given (max) 20 mins if any time at all. The headliner is drawing from a > catalogue of songs which some of us grew up listening to, the opener is > playing you songs you're hearing for the first time. The headliner has 2 > hours to impress, the opener 40 mins. The headliner is performing to a > stoned or drunk audience, the opener to people still arriving and sober. The > headliner has a full light show to add to the atmosphere and draw you in, > the opener has a couple of spot lights (if they are lucky). The headliner > has a truck load of expensive equipment and back ground personnel to ensure > they sound great, the opener has so little room on stage that they are > forced to down scale and use the minimum of equipment......I could > continue.... and they still left a BIG impression on me.. > Did anyone here see them Headlining in the states last year ??? If so did > they impress or depress ??? :-} > Tony Wilson > From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu Mar 14 02:46:28 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 02:46:28 -0500 Subject: HW on tele Message-ID: It sounded to me like the Brainstorm audio was from Space Ritual and the visual was as usual from the part of the Dunstable 1972 gig that the BBC recorded for TOTP Silver Machine. They must have some or all of that concert on film stored away, probably never to be released. What I would give to have that whole gig on video plus the Italian Hawklords stuff shown on Top Ten last year. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Graham To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 13/03/02 22:40 Subject: HW on tele Saw the "Rock Rules" programme on BBC1 tonight nice short interview with Lemmy and some lovely, though very short, footage of "Silver Machine" - TOTP, and "Brainstorm" live with Stacia dancing does anyone know where to find more of this , I presume, Space Ritual footage? Black Sabbath bit was ok as were Led Zeppelin and Quo. Also mentioned Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper, and Saxon. Best bit part from Hawks and Motorhead were some lovely clips of English chops in the seventies no crash helmets. 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From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Mar 14 02:58:01 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:58:01 -0000 Subject: BOC: "World Without End" and Shakespeare Message-ID: > > > >Not wanting to be picky, but it's by Terry > >Pratchett AND Neil Gaiman. > > > Yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't remember how to spell Pratchett's name and didn't have the book in front of me. I'd rather my work be incomplete than misspelled. Now *that*'s the kind of attitude I like! :-) > > I think the funniest part has to be when Crowley, the demon, sends a copy of the licensing agreement from his computer to Hell's "contracts department" and tells them to take notes. > > Either that, or the fact that neither Heaven nor Hell seems to know which side parking enforcement officers actually work for. Or Crowley owning the original sketch of the Mona Lisa - the one that Leonardo preferred. He just couldn't get the smile right in the finished version.... ARF ARF ARF! Cheers, R. From john.cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK Thu Mar 14 04:38:16 2002 From: john.cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK (John Cartledge) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:38:16 +0000 Subject: Test Message-ID: No mail for three days. Any life out there? From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Thu Mar 14 05:09:09 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:09:09 -0000 Subject: HW on tele Message-ID: >Saw the "Rock Rules" programme on BBC1 tonight nice short interview with >Lemmy and some lovely, though very short, footage of "Silver Machine" - >TOTP, and "Brainstorm" live with Stacia dancing does anyone know where to >find more of this , I presume, Space Ritual footage? But the latter was the same footage used during the Channel 4 Top 10 programme to accompany Orgone Accumulator, wasn't it? BTW, not so sure about the commentary's implication that HW sacked Lemmy because of the drugs bust AND the (supposed) fact that he got all the attention when Silver Machine became a hit. If the latter were true, it took them quite some time to vent their frustration.......... ;@) Dave From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Mar 14 05:14:55 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:14:55 -0000 Subject: HW on tele Message-ID: Watching this, the 'Space Ritual' footage is easily discernable from the Silver Machine footage by the presence of a long haired Bob Calvert and a nude Stacia. However, was Brainstorm (the audio) dubbed onto this film or were they actually performing it? What I'm getting at here; was this particular film made to promote Urban Guerilla (minus sound)? Perhaps someone could compare with the Urban Guerilla footage used on Top Ten last year. Captain Black. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jobson, Eddie" To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:46 AM Subject: Re: HW on tele > It sounded to me like the Brainstorm audio was from Space Ritual and the > visual was as usual from the part of the Dunstable 1972 gig that the BBC > recorded for TOTP Silver Machine. They must have some or all of that concert > on film stored away, probably never to be released. What I would give to > have that whole gig on video plus the Italian Hawklords stuff shown on Top > Ten last year. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Graham > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Sent: 13/03/02 22:40 > Subject: HW on tele > > Saw the "Rock Rules" programme on BBC1 tonight nice short interview with > Lemmy and some lovely, though very short, footage of "Silver Machine" - > TOTP, and "Brainstorm" live with Stacia dancing does anyone know where > to > find more of this , I presume, Space Ritual footage? Black Sabbath bit > was > ok as were Led Zeppelin and Quo. Also mentioned Iron Maiden, Motley > Crue, > Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Alice Cooper, and Saxon. Best bit part from > Hawks > and Motorhead were some lovely clips of English chops in the seventies > no > crash helmets. Ride Free. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and > confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message > is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for > delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from > your computer. Thank you. ThruPoint, Inc. From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu Mar 14 06:12:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 11:12:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Arrghhhh Message-ID: Re: When rock ruled the world... I don't believe it - my Video packed up 10 mins into the programme, while I was tucked up in bed 8-(((( Can someone itemise what they said about HW and which clips they showed? Anything new? Thanks, ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Mar 14 07:15:11 2002 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:15:11 +0000 Subject: HW: Arrghhhh Message-ID: Steve, Thats bad luck man... may I join you in your sorrow. I too missed this program. I was aware of the program being on, but in my tired state last night getting back home 10:30pm, I completly forgot and straight to bed... I knew I had to be home by 10:30, but didn't question myself as to why!!!! imagine my digust upon getting to work this morning and my team all saying what a great program it, some thanked me for telling themit was on, one even commented on the fact he didn't know Lemmy was in the band ( he's a jamiroqui fan )....... the bastards were even singing silver machine when I came in to the office..... Gutted of bristol ho hum, it sound like the stuff they showed on the Channel four program so no new material, which would have been a real bummer. regards Iain slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK wrote: >Re: When rock ruled the world... > >I don't believe it - my Video packed up 10 mins into the programme, while >I was tucked up in bed 8-(((( > >Can someone itemise what they said about HW and which clips they showed? >Anything new? > >Thanks, >____________________________________________________________________ >Steve Litchfield >Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 14 07:29:07 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:29:07 EST Subject: Test Message-ID: No mail for three days. Any life out there? --------------------- Out there or in here? I think I'm still alive - I still recieve posts from Mike C. But he insists he is an upstanding member of the undead .... so I may be mistaken. I have been considering an all over body waxing to remove excess body hairs and thereby maximise the olive oil body rubs at the frequent Toga parties I have been attending as of late. You wouldn't believe how the chicks dig the oily toga parties. Tommorrow I may mow the lawn.... or better yet .... sit out on the front lawn - sip pina coladas and watch the neighbors mow their lawn. Tonight is a quiet one - I have the servants serving satay sloth for appetizer and for main course Wrens liver cheese blaaaaahhhh ((its french)) with a carafe of chilled vindaloo sauce. Toodle pip!!!! From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 14 08:04:59 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:04:59 +0800 Subject: Test Message-ID: No sorry!!! We were Nuked the shit out of... It's no fun being a sub-atomic particle ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cartledge" To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:38 PM Subject: Test > No mail for three days. Any life out there? > From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Thu Mar 14 07:27:22 2002 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:27:22 +1100 Subject: HW: Arrghhhh Message-ID: Hey Steve At least you guys got something, what about us poor slobs stuck here in Australia in an almost Hawkwind Vacuum. Nothing on Telly & a 20 year wait to see the worlds greatest Rock Band. Oh well - times are tuff. Allan Sharpe Long time fan &cultural misfit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: HW: Arrghhhh > Re: When rock ruled the world... > > I don't believe it - my Video packed up 10 mins into the programme, while > I was tucked up in bed 8-(((( > > Can someone itemise what they said about HW and which clips they showed? > Anything new? > > Thanks, > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Thu Mar 14 07:32:33 2002 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:32:33 +1100 Subject: HW: Arrghhhh Message-ID: Steve By the way - I am sorry that you missed it.l I also would love to hear a wrap up. Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: HW: Arrghhhh > Re: When rock ruled the world... > > I don't believe it - my Video packed up 10 mins into the programme, while > I was tucked up in bed 8-(((( > > Can someone itemise what they said about HW and which clips they showed? > Anything new? > > Thanks, > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 14 09:13:04 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:13:04 EST Subject: Test Message-ID: In a message dated Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:04:10 AEST, Bill & Cynthia writes: > No sorry!!! > > We were Nuked the shit out of... > > It's no fun being a sub-atomic particle Bugger isn't it - and heres me - the latest "guaranteed for a chance to win a cool million" from Readers Digest if I subscribe just isn't fair The Flying Dictator From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Thu Mar 14 10:18:02 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:18:02 -0000 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: but in your original post you said >If I'd never heard > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic Implying that that only reason you didn't enjoy this band was that they were to similar to the bands (and style of music) you love.... I bet if say Harvey Bainbridge was credited as Keyboard player or if Dave Brock had played penny whistle on the 3rd bar of the 2nd verse you'd have loved it......... And if you judge a band solely by listening to a couple of random mp3s (or a bootlegged audience recording) your gonna miss out on some great music man... It's like hearing great things about an author or book so you select and read a random chapter of a random book and from that decide although you like what you read, your favourite author has wrote something back in the 70s on the same topic, so therefore you'll not bother reading the whole book and just go back and re-read one you've read before. It's not just MQB or you Richard, it's this every repeated, If it sounds anything like HW it's crap (because it isn't HW) and if it doesn't sound anything like HW it's crap (because it just isn't HW)... I hold my hands up and can not deny that Hawkwind are the Godfathers of Spacerock and still the best live band I've ever seen but, fortunately for Spacerock THERE ARE some good up and coming bands around who will continue playing/recording and releasing albums in a similar vein to HW long after HW have called it a day, and fortunately for these bands there is enough of us Spacerock fans out there who are into the music more than the individuals who play it, to keep this genre alive. Tony Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:16 AM Subject: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim > Hang on a minute... This is a reply to my original post, which was back in > January... :-) I' m not trying to bring the subject up again! > > And no, I haven't sat down and listened to any MQB albums - as I said in the > original post, just some stuff I downloaded from Morpheus (or somewhere). > That's what I mainly use it for. Someone tells me about a band I might > like, I'll download a few traks - if I like them then I'll go out and buy > the albums. Nothing I've heard from MQB has made me want to do that yet. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Wilson" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim > > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed out: > > > > (I'm going to get a kicking for this one...) > > > > > > > > After hearing so many good things about Mr Quimby's beard, I've > finally > > sat > > > > down and downloaded some tracks. Hmm. Splendid. If I'd never heard > > > > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic. > > > > > > > > Maybe I need to get back to smoking those funny big herbal cigarettes > > > > (Something I've not done for many a year now) but to me it sounds like > a > > > > bunch of blokes doing a very good Hawkwind impersonation. > > > > > > > > Emporer's new clothes, or have I missed the point? > > > > > > That was more or less the impression they gave at the Forum gig, > > > but I think there's a shortage of such stuff around so I didn't really > > > mind. The vocal styles are different, I don't think Hawkwind ever had a > > > singer that sounded like that, but I'm yet to be sure whether or not I > > > like it... (And I still haven't got any AP so don't know how that > > > compares) What it lacks, to me, is the edge that HW seem to have got > from > > > not really knowing what it was they were doing. So it's as smooth as the > > > later stuff, _Electric Tepee_ onwards, but has a feel more like _Live > '79_ > > > in terms of togetherness and structure. Not the ideal combination then, > > > but still very good. Depends whether you're searching for something new > or > > > you don't mind getting the same trip recycled. I had given up expecting > > > new things of the British side of the genre until I happened on _Return > to > > > Earth_ by Starfield which is certainly getting there. (I owe Captain > Black > > > a review still... ) Yours, > > > > > > > Not again............ > > Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told > about?? > > "Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." > > Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something that > > belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ??? > > > > I know this will win me no friends but AP !!! come on, they've had a > couple > > of ok'ish albums and the rest of their stuff is just self indulgent > dribble > > with poorly played synths over the top. And if you're looking for > something > > new you'll not find it on the Starfield album (which btw I really like). I > > don't think I've ever heard a band sound as close to HW as they do Jon. > > > > As for Mr Quimby's Beard, have either of you heard any of their albums ??? > I > > can't imagine you have or you'd know that they draw from many other > musical > > influences as well as HW. > > I'll put my neck on the line and say.... I think Mr Quimby's Beard are > > currently offering more to my favourite genre of music (Spacerock) than > any > > other band including Hawkwind (who I've loved for many years), and that > > their album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of." is the best and most > > complete album I've heard since long before Electric Tepee. > > When you see them live as at the forum, supporting someone like Hawkwind, > it > > is unfair to even try to compare the 2 acts, as, the headliner (HW) will > > have all afternoon to sound check (and rehearse) the opener (MQB) will be > > given (max) 20 mins if any time at all. The headliner is drawing from a > > catalogue of songs which some of us grew up listening to, the opener is > > playing you songs you're hearing for the first time. The headliner has 2 > > hours to impress, the opener 40 mins. The headliner is performing to a > > stoned or drunk audience, the opener to people still arriving and sober. > The > > headliner has a full light show to add to the atmosphere and draw you in, > > the opener has a couple of spot lights (if they are lucky). The headliner > > has a truck load of expensive equipment and back ground personnel to > ensure > > they sound great, the opener has so little room on stage that they are > > forced to down scale and use the minimum of equipment......I could > > continue.... and they still left a BIG impression on me.. > > Did anyone here see them Headlining in the states last year ??? If so did > > they impress or depress ??? :-} > > Tony Wilson > > > From frankw at STC.CORP.MOT.COM Thu Mar 14 14:10:26 2002 From: frankw at STC.CORP.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:10:26 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in Pulse! Message-ID: Hawkwind is mentioned in the March 2002 issue of Pulse! magazine from Tower Records in an article called "Other Voices - The birth of a musical counterculture". There is a picture of the band (fairly old, I couldn't give a date for it), a couple of passing references, "Space Ritual" listed as essential listening, and "In Search of Space" and "Space Ritual Live" listed as further listening. BTW, the is the U.S. version. I don't know if it is the same worldwide. Also, I don't have a scanner readily available, so I can't post it right now. Kris, I can get a copy and send it to you if you can't easily get one. Best regards, Frank -- Whatever crushes individuality is despotism. -- John Stuart Mill ============================================================ Frank Weil | Frank.Weil at motorola.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3280 From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Thu Mar 14 14:41:32 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?=) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:41:32 +0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgUmU6IEhXOiBBcnJnaGhoaA==?= Message-ID: To be honest, my previous post covers my opinion of the show - a missed opportunity. In terms of facts; are they those irrelevant items that get in the way of tabloid journalism. No new HW footage that I can recall Some archive MH footage that I had not seen before but I am not an avid MH watcher. Some incidental footage of Lemmy from the 70's with a full (but not very impressive) beard. Best bit for me was Vic Reeves describing the 'shock hit single' Silver Machine. This is noot verbatim. Vic - this synthesiser thing was new; nobody else had it. Vic - it comes in 'wooooooosh, wiiiiiiish, weeeeeeey - all sorts of noises like that while Vic makes 'shapes' with one of his arms. He looked pretty sober as well. Worth seeing the program for that, a couple of decent bits from Mark Radcliffe and the sheer ineptitude of many of the 'heavy metal heroes', and, even worse, the fans who were interviewed. Gotta say, a good proportion was cringeworthy in the extreme. Tell you what, tho. Never realised Cronos of Venom was such a genuinely funny man. His story about his school running a denim jacket embroidery competition was hilarious. At War With Satan, indeed! -- Mark Von Bargen mark.von-bargen at genieone.co.uk - email ---- iain ferguson wrote: ---------------- Steve, Thats bad luck man... may I join you in your sorrow. I too missed this program. I was aware of the program being on, but in my tired state last night getting back home 10:30pm, I completly forgot and straight to bed... I knew I had to be home by 10:30, but didn't question myself as to why!!!! imagine my digust upon getting to work this morning and my team all saying what a great program it, some thanked me for telling themit was on, one even commented on the fact he didn't know Lemmy was in the band ( he's a jamiroqui fan )....... the bastards were even singing silver machine when I came in to the office..... Gutted of bristol ho hum, it sound like the stuff they showed on the Channel four program so no new material, which would have been a real bummer. regards Iain slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK wrote: >Re: When rock ruled the world... > >I don't believe it - my Video packed up 10 mins into the programme, while >I was tucked up in bed 8-(((( > >Can someone itemise what they said about HW and which clips they showed? >Anything new? > >Thanks, >____________________________________________________________________ >Steve Litchfield >Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > ---------------- __________________________________________________ Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Mar 14 15:58:27 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:58:27 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in Pulse! In-Reply-To: <200203141910.NAA06899@stcserve.stc.corp.mot.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Frank Weil wrote: :Subject: HW: Hawkwind in Pulse! : :Hawkwind is mentioned in the March 2002 issue of Pulse! magazine from :Tower Records in an article called "Other Voices - The birth of a :musical counterculture". : :There is a picture of the band (fairly old, I couldn't give a date for :it), a couple of passing references, "Space Ritual" listed as essential :listening, and "In Search of Space" and "Space Ritual Live" listed as :further listening. : :BTW, the is the U.S. version. I don't know if it is the same worldwide. :Also, I don't have a scanner readily available, so I can't post it right :now. : :Kris, I can get a copy and send it to you if you can't easily get one. : bits of this article appear to be online. I'm looking at: http://pulse.towerrecords.com/contentStory.asp?contentId=4937 The "article" starts at: http://pulse.towerrecords.com/section.asp?publicationId=74 Thanks! Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 14 13:52:56 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:52:56 GMT Subject: HW: Arrghhhh In-Reply-To: Allan Sharpe's message of Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:32:33 +1100 Message-ID: Allan Sharpe writes: > > I don't believe it - my Video packed up 10 mins into the programme, while > > I was tucked up in bed 8-(((( > > > > Can someone itemise what they said about HW and which clips they showed? Lemmy "from Motorhead" had a few quick pieces on the show. Later on they mentioned that he'd been in Hawkwind and showed stuff from the BBC recording they did for Top of The Pops. > > Anything new? That's what's interesting. The shots were different from the TotP clips and there was a small excerpt from "Brainstorm". I think we can conclude that the Beeb fibbed and the gig is still available somewhere. Can anyone follow this up through the researchers> What's the latest from the folks who were following up the last TV programme which had clips from 1974 and 1978? FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Mar 14 19:19:34 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:19:34 -0000 Subject: HW: Arrghhhh Message-ID: > That's what's interesting. The shots were different from the TotP clips > and there was a small excerpt from "Brainstorm". I think we can conclude > that the Beeb fibbed and the gig is still available somewhere. Can > anyone follow this up through the researchers> Fibbed? I wasn't aware that the BBC had made any statement on the matter. Only speculation on our parts. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Mar 14 17:55:40 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:55:40 -0000 Subject: HW: Arrghhhh Message-ID: Am I the only one who got it on video? Very little about Hawkwind - but lots of little clips of Bad News! :-) For once, they wheeled out most of the articulate "rockers" - Alice, Lemmy, Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford - as well as Sir Ozzy Of Osbourne. Very funny, and in places, more than a little tongue in cheek. :-) And some great footage. Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain ferguson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: Arrghhhh > Steve, > > Thats bad luck man... may I join you in your sorrow. > > I too missed this program. I was aware of the program being on, but in > my tired state last night getting back home 10:30pm, I completly forgot > and straight to bed... > I knew I had to be home by 10:30, but didn't question myself as to why!!!! > > imagine my digust upon getting to work this morning and my team all > saying what a great program it, some thanked me for telling themit was > on, one even commented on the fact he didn't know Lemmy was in the band > ( he's a jamiroqui fan )....... the bastards were even singing silver > machine when I came in to the office..... Gutted of bristol > > > ho hum, it sound like the stuff they showed on the Channel four program > so no new material, which would have been a real bummer. > > regards > Iain > > slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK wrote: > > >Re: When rock ruled the world... > > > >I don't believe it - my Video packed up 10 mins into the programme, while > >I was tucked up in bed 8-(((( > > > >Can someone itemise what they said about HW and which clips they showed? > >Anything new? > > > >Thanks, > >____________________________________________________________________ > >Steve Litchfield > >Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > > > From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Thu Mar 14 14:58:32 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:58:32 +0000 Subject: OFF : CDRDAO Problems Message-ID: Hi ya, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 07:15:50PM +0000, Chris Gibbs wrote: > > [[Various CDDA "observations" deleted.]] > > Have you ever thought of working as a disinformation officer for the > government? I think you'd be a natural. ;-) > Cool job! I can get really inventive with conspiracy theories and make eveoryone really paranoid. But all true the illuminati are out to get you.... Chris -- Hurewitz's Memory Principle: The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to ..... to ........ uh .............. From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Mar 14 15:59:26 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:59:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Space Sex Message-ID: AFAIK 'Space Sex' was an approximately 3 minute(?) long track that appeared only on the vinyl version of Alien 4. I have pretty much given up hope of ever hearing it, but if anyone has it, I was wondering if it might be similar to or edited from the 'Surreal Sex Dreams' or Space Riders and Sex Dreams' tracks on 'Memos and Demos'? Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Mar 14 15:59:02 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:59:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Lucky Leif revisited (plus trivia Q) Message-ID: >... on "Ship of Fools", "Brave New World", "Storm Chant of the >Skraelings", and "Ragna Rock", the Rudolph/Eno/Nichols (etc. but >those seem to be the three main players) band isn't faking anything. My own personal up-there-with-the-best-Calvert Lucky Leif EP matches 3/4 of this - but I'd replace 'Brave New World' with 'Voyaging to Vinland'. Those are my favorite tracks, and not coincidentally those 4 are the tracks that have the most 'serious' take on the album's ostensible concept, so I guess the linkage may be more thematic than musical - but they are also the 4 tracks that do not have a 'lighter' sound to them, so it could be my usual aversion to poppish music. Plus I love 'folk-dirge-drone'. (Last years seemingly out-of-the-blue archival release and reissues of Parsson Sound/[International] Harvester were a goldmine). >"Brave New World" just might be the best *pop* song to come out of >anyone in the Hawkwind camp, catchier even than Bob's best songs on >'Hype'. Despite my pop-ophobia, I agree about this, I think the keys (piano? string organ?) help 'make' this track. And for some reason I also like 'Magical Potion' a lot - I nominate those two tracks as a great double-A-side single. Stephan P.S. 'Cricket Star' is fake reggae, mon! From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 14 23:47:13 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:47:13 EST Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: Yes - an open mind to new sounds is important and supporting the new guys on the block can only make the scene stronger and that much better for the "Space Rock scene" all round. ----------------------- I hold my hands up and can not deny that Hawkwind are the Godfathers of Spacerock and still the best live band I've ever seen but, fortunately for Spacerock THERE ARE some good up and coming bands around who will continue playing/recording and releasing albums in a similar vein to HW long after HW have called it a day, and fortunately for these bands there is enough of us Spacerock fans out there who are into the music more than the individuals who play it, to keep this genre alive From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu Mar 14 07:43:08 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:43:08 -0500 Subject: FW: Arrghhhh Message-ID: For the benefit of anyone else who missed it. -----Original Message----- From: Jobson, Eddie To: 'Steve Litchfield ' Sent: 14/03/02 07:14 Subject: RE: Arrghhhh >From memory Started talking to Lemmy about Motorhead then detailed his past. Showed HW doing Silver Machine, same old footage. Then another clip showed a long haired Calvert with Stacia swinging 'em overdubbed with Brainstorm from Space Ritual. The only difference between this and Top Ten was TT used Orgone Accumulator. Couple of band pictures and newspaper ad saying the band were so pissed off Lemmy sung a hit single and carried drugs into Canada they sacked him! As Dave Bottomley said "it took them quite some time to vent their frustration" then. 3 years!! Then went on to show Motorhead performing and Julia Carling, of all people, praising them. Hope this fills some gaps. If you want to see it and can't get a copy I'm sure we could sort something out. Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Litchfield To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 14/03/02 06:12 Subject: HW: Arrghhhh Re: When rock ruled the world... I don't believe it - my Video packed up 10 mins into the programme, while I was tucked up in bed 8-(((( Can someone itemise what they said about HW and which clips they showed? Anything new? Thanks, ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ThruPoint, Inc. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 15 02:28:21 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:28:21 -0000 Subject: HW: Space Sex Message-ID: I think, and can check later, that it was the same as the track'La Forge' from Dave's 'Strange Trips & Pipe Dreams' album, but with a spoken intro. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Forstner" To: Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: HW: Space Sex > AFAIK 'Space Sex' was an approximately 3 minute(?) long track that appeared > only on the vinyl version of Alien 4. I have pretty much given up hope of > ever hearing it, but if anyone has it, I was wondering if it might be > similar to or edited from the 'Surreal Sex Dreams' or Space Riders and Sex > Dreams' tracks on 'Memos and Demos'? > > Stephan From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Mar 15 03:04:42 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:04:42 -0000 Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: You've a point about what I heard not being a truly representitive sample - I *will* give them another go, honest. However, you've somewhat misinterpreted my other point - or maybe I just phrased it badly.. :-) What I meant was that I felt it was *too* close to sounding like Hawkwind for me to think "Hey, these guys are really doing something new in the field of space rock." (I don't normally talk like that BTW!) It just came across more as "slavishly copying" rather than "being inspired by". Sadly my budget doesn't allow me to go out and buy shed loads of CDs just on the off chance that they might be OK, or that I might find one track that I love on an album full of dross - that's why I like the tape/CD loops so much. You get recommendations, rather than just picking a track at random. For all I know, the MQB tracks I heard could be completely unrepresentitive of the band. Like I said, I'll attempt to get hold of a few more tracks, and, you never know, I might end up changing my opinion completely and parting with actual cash. (And from a Yorkshireman, that's praise indeed...) :-) Cheers, Rich. > but in your original post you said > >If I'd never heard > > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic > > Implying that that only reason you didn't enjoy this band was that they were > to similar to the bands (and style of music) you love.... I bet if say > Harvey Bainbridge was credited as Keyboard player or if Dave Brock had > played penny whistle on the 3rd bar of the 2nd verse you'd have loved > it......... > > And if you judge a band solely by listening to a couple of random mp3s (or a > bootlegged audience recording) your gonna miss out on some great music > man... It's like hearing great things about an author or book so you select > and read a random chapter of a random book and from that decide although you > like what you read, your favourite author has wrote something back in the > 70s on the same topic, so therefore you'll not bother reading the whole book > and just go back and re-read one you've read before. > > It's not just MQB or you Richard, it's this every repeated, If it sounds > anything like HW it's crap (because it isn't HW) and if it doesn't sound > anything like HW it's crap (because it just isn't HW)... > > I hold my hands up and can not deny that Hawkwind are the Godfathers of > Spacerock and still the best live band I've ever seen but, fortunately for > Spacerock THERE ARE some good up and coming bands around who will continue > playing/recording and releasing albums in a similar vein to HW long after HW > have called it a day, and fortunately for these bands there is enough of us > Spacerock fans out there who are into the music more than the individuals > who play it, to keep this genre alive. > Tony Wilson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:16 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim > > > > Hang on a minute... This is a reply to my original post, which was back > in > > January... :-) I' m not trying to bring the subject up again! > > > > And no, I haven't sat down and listened to any MQB albums - as I said in > the > > original post, just some stuff I downloaded from Morpheus (or somewhere). > > That's what I mainly use it for. Someone tells me about a band I might > > like, I'll download a few traks - if I like them then I'll go out and buy > > the albums. Nothing I've heard from MQB has made me want to do that yet. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tony Wilson" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:15 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 03:38:15AM -0000, Richard Lockwood typed out: > > > > > (I'm going to get a kicking for this one...) > > > > > > > > > > After hearing so many good things about Mr Quimby's beard, I've > > finally > > > sat > > > > > down and downloaded some tracks. Hmm. Splendid. If I'd never heard > > > > > Hawkwind, or Alien Planetscapes, I'd think it was fantastic. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I need to get back to smoking those funny big herbal > cigarettes > > > > > (Something I've not done for many a year now) but to me it sounds > like > > a > > > > > bunch of blokes doing a very good Hawkwind impersonation. > > > > > > > > > > Emporer's new clothes, or have I missed the point? > > > > > > > > That was more or less the impression they gave at the Forum > gig, > > > > but I think there's a shortage of such stuff around so I didn't really > > > > mind. The vocal styles are different, I don't think Hawkwind ever had > a > > > > singer that sounded like that, but I'm yet to be sure whether or not I > > > > like it... (And I still haven't got any AP so don't know how that > > > > compares) What it lacks, to me, is the edge that HW seem to have got > > from > > > > not really knowing what it was they were doing. So it's as smooth as > the > > > > later stuff, _Electric Tepee_ onwards, but has a feel more like _Live > > '79_ > > > > in terms of togetherness and structure. Not the ideal combination > then, > > > > but still very good. Depends whether you're searching for something > new > > or > > > > you don't mind getting the same trip recycled. I had given up > expecting > > > > new things of the British side of the genre until I happened on > _Return > > to > > > > Earth_ by Starfield which is certainly getting there. (I owe Captain > > Black > > > > a review still... ) Yours, > > > > > > > > > > Not again............ > > > Is there some kind of competition going on that I've never been told > > about?? > > > "Hawkwind VS. Every other band....." > > > Can't you accept that spacerock is a genre of music and not something > that > > > belongs solely to Hawkwind, Richard ??? > > > > > > I know this will win me no friends but AP !!! come on, they've had a > > couple > > > of ok'ish albums and the rest of their stuff is just self indulgent > > dribble > > > with poorly played synths over the top. And if you're looking for > > something > > > new you'll not find it on the Starfield album (which btw I really like). > I > > > don't think I've ever heard a band sound as close to HW as they do Jon. > > > > > > As for Mr Quimby's Beard, have either of you heard any of their albums > ??? > > I > > > can't imagine you have or you'd know that they draw from many other > > musical > > > influences as well as HW. > > > I'll put my neck on the line and say.... I think Mr Quimby's Beard are > > > currently offering more to my favourite genre of music (Spacerock) than > > any > > > other band including Hawkwind (who I've loved for many years), and that > > > their album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of." is the best and most > > > complete album I've heard since long before Electric Tepee. > > > When you see them live as at the forum, supporting someone like > Hawkwind, > > it > > > is unfair to even try to compare the 2 acts, as, the headliner (HW) will > > > have all afternoon to sound check (and rehearse) the opener (MQB) will > be > > > given (max) 20 mins if any time at all. The headliner is drawing from a > > > catalogue of songs which some of us grew up listening to, the opener is > > > playing you songs you're hearing for the first time. The headliner has 2 > > > hours to impress, the opener 40 mins. The headliner is performing to a > > > stoned or drunk audience, the opener to people still arriving and sober. > > The > > > headliner has a full light show to add to the atmosphere and draw you > in, > > > the opener has a couple of spot lights (if they are lucky). The > headliner > > > has a truck load of expensive equipment and back ground personnel to > > ensure > > > they sound great, the opener has so little room on stage that they are > > > forced to down scale and use the minimum of equipment......I could > > > continue.... and they still left a BIG impression on me.. > > > Did anyone here see them Headlining in the states last year ??? If so > did > > > they impress or depress ??? :-} > > > Tony Wilson > > > > > > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Mar 15 08:54:48 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:54:48 -0500 Subject: OFF : CDRDAO Problems In-Reply-To: <3C910C91.1C6F8A23@hawklord.uklinux.net> Message-ID: I'm Cc'ing this to BOC-L, where the thread originated, as folks might be interested in the explanation, too. I hope you don't mind. On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:48:17PM +0000, Chris Gibbs wrote: => I notice their explanation of betwwen track silence is different to => mine. => => But why? I definately have solved my problem. It occured much more => with commercial cds though and that is at odds with what they say. I => copy same cd's as one wav and no silences anymore. The faq seems to => suggest the silence should still be there The silences are probably still there; they're just indexed properly now. Let me explain... A track on an audio CD may have several index markers spread throughout it. These are encoded via subcodes, and, although you may have many in each track, only two are really important to the discussion in hand: index 0 and 1. Index marker 0 denotes the start of a track. Index 1 indicates the start position of the track as listed in the CD's table of contents (TOC). In other words, index 1 is the position at which the track will start playing when you seek to that track when playing the CD. Any audio between index 0 and 1 is known as the "pre-gap," and typically is silence in commercial CDs composed of individual tracks that don't segue. When you burn a disc "track-at-once" (TAO), the pre-gaps default to 150 sectors, or two seconds. When you play CDs, the pre-gap audio is usually distinguishable by the elapsed time counting down (negative times) rather than up. Whether you get silence at the end of your tracks when doing DAE on CDs depends upon how your application does it. Almost always, when simplistically grabbing tracks, the application will just grab all audio between consecutive index 1 markers reported in the TOC. So, if you're grabbing track 5, and it starts at LBA X in the CD's TOC, and track 6 starts at LBA Y (Y > X) in the TOC, the DAE application will grab Y-X sectors of audio from the CD starting at LBA X. If you've been following the discussion of encoding, you'll see that this will include the pre-gap of track 6. In other words, if track 6 has the 2 second gap in front of it, this silence will appear at the *end* of the grabbed track 5. The other method of doing DAE is to do so with respect to subcodes, i.e., to read the audio data from the CD along with the subcode information. With the subcode information, it can also know where the different index markers lie, and so can correctly recreate the disc's layout. (It also has the opportunity to "eliminate" pre-gaps if it wants.) This method is more intensive; not perfect; and won't work for all CD-ROM drives, particularly older ones that don't support reading subcode information. (The other method will work with all drives, because all drives support reading the TOC.) There are various heuristics that will speed up scanning for the index markers that may miss some in non-standard discs. For example, some "fast-TOC" scanning algorithms will seek to the LBAs listed in the TOC minus N seconds (N*75 sectors) and then scan that "pre-gap" area for index markers to add to the CUE sheet. Obviously, it will miss index markers in discs that have very large pre-gaps. (The only sure-fire way is to scan the entire disc, alas.) Cdrdao's read-toc or read-cd commands operate pretty much this way. The CUE sheet can encode subtleties of index markers, and so can faithfully recreate pre-gaps. Incidentally, currently MS-Windows is superior for grabbing audio from CDs because of the EAC software available for it (see http://www.exactaudiocopy.de), which is not available under Unix. I believe it is *still* the only non-proprietary audio grabber that correctly compensates for drive read and write sample offsets when extracting and writing audio. I heard once of some experimental patches to cdparanoia to support sample offsets, but I don't think they are in the distributed version. Drive sample offset support (along with your drive being able to overread into the lead-in and lead-out) is the *only way* to *guarantee* being able to make *identical clones* of CDDA discs (i.e., such that your DAE'd version matches MD5s of my version). Of course, this requires you to configure your sample offset correctly for the drive you use, as different drive models have different sample offsets. The Plextor CD-ROM I use, for example, has a sample offset of +688 samples. That is another reason I prefer to trade SHN copies of shows, because it eliminates the DAE step and all the potential headaches that can introduce. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 15 10:10:40 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:10:40 GMT Subject: HW on tele In-Reply-To: Captain Bl@ck's message of Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:14:55 -0000 Message-ID: Captain Bl at ck writes: > Watching this, the 'Space Ritual' footage is easily discernable from the > Silver Machine footage by the presence of a long haired Bob Calvert and a > nude Stacia. > > However, was Brainstorm (the audio) dubbed onto this film or were they > actually performing it? Could check the Brainstorm sound clips against Space Ritual and the Brian Matthews tracks. Sounded like SR though. FoFP From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Mar 15 13:07:42 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 12:07:42 -0600 Subject: OFF: Desks are alive with the sound of music Message-ID: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-859874.html From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Mar 15 14:38:18 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:38:18 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in Pulse! Message-ID: I tried this yesterday, but the listserv.spc.edu web interface was not being very friendly, and it never showed up ... On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:58:27 -0600, Arin Komins wrote: >On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Frank Weil wrote: >:Hawkwind is mentioned in the March 2002 issue of Pulse! magazine from >:Tower Records in an article called "Other Voices - The birth of a >:musical counterculture". I wonder if Scott Schinder still writes for 'Pulse'? He's a big Hawkwind fan, and would mention the Griffin reissues in the mag back in the mid-90s. >bits of this article appear to be online. > >I'm looking at: > >http://pulse.towerrecords.com/contentStory.asp?contentId=4937 ... and be sure to note the sidebar which lists 'Space Ritual' as one of the top 20(?) "underground" albums, alongside the usual suspects (VU, MC5, etc.) ... pretty cool! >The "article" starts at: > >http://pulse.towerrecords.com/section.asp?publicationId=74 -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Mar 15 15:59:19 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 20:59:19 -0000 Subject: HW on tele Message-ID: The music was from Space Ritual alright, but where was the film clip from (not necessarily the same...). Did anyone also spot the intro to Black Corridor being played at the beginning of the Hawkwind sequence? ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:10 PM Subject: Re: HW on tele > Captain Bl at ck writes: > > > Watching this, the 'Space Ritual' footage is easily discernable from the > > Silver Machine footage by the presence of a long haired Bob Calvert and a > > nude Stacia. > > > > However, was Brainstorm (the audio) dubbed onto this film or were they > > actually performing it? > > Could check the Brainstorm sound clips against Space Ritual and the > Brian Matthews tracks. Sounded like SR though. > > FoFP From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Mar 15 16:59:49 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:59:49 -0500 Subject: HW: meaningless reference? Message-ID: >From a recent issue of NewTimesLA (where I'm trying to find the article on my friend Doug Miller's birthday party at Spaceland tomorrow night ... I'll be there! In case any of you LA folks are up for some loud punkrock): "Tuesday night at the Derby, while celebrating some sort of power pop renaissance with Smile Records acts Supremium and the recently signed Hutch, late '80s/early '90s shoulda-been-superstars Dramarama reformed and played onstage together for the first time in eight years. The unscheduled reunion came as a result of the misfortune of ailing Smile artist Stew, who was also set to perform on the bill but fractured his ankle over the weekend while reportedly attempting to dance along to side four of Hawkwind's Space Ritual album." Trying to emulate Stacia?!?! (That's the side with "Time We Left" ... I'd probably break an ankle if I tried to dance along to Lemmy's bass solo!) http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/2002-02-28/freekshow.html/1/index.html -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Mar 15 18:22:25 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:22:25 EST Subject: HW: Mr Beardy's Quim Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/02 1:56:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > > wait till you hear the new Spacehead album, or check any of the previous > ones!!!!!!! > Agreed. As much as I dig MQB, I still have to give the nod to Spacehead as far as contemporary Brit HW-derived Space-rock. And that's just going on one release-- "In Space We Trust"! It's probably even more derivative of HW than MQB, but is so goddamn powerful and heavy... Chuck From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 16 02:03:10 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:03:10 EST Subject: OFF: Desks are alive with the sound of music Message-ID: Any chance of getting that in plain english?? --------------------Headers -------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-xg05.mx.aol.com (rly-xg05.mail.aol.com [172.20.115.202]) by air-xg01.mail.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINXG13-0315130853; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:08:53 -0500 Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com (cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109]) by rly-xg05.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXG53-0315130821; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:08:21 -0500 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <23.0057EAE8 at cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:09:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.SPC.EDU by LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 55566 for BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:09:10 -0500 From bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat Mar 16 08:41:11 2002 From: bishop.garden at FALKOPING.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Kenneth Magnusson) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 14:41:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Rush (at last !) In-Reply-To: <184.51cb05c.29c3dc31@aol.com> Message-ID: http://www.geddylee.net/vt/ ------- Moorbase Alpha - http://www.moll.pp.se/moor/ The Moor at mp3.com - http://www.mp3.com/TheMoor From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Sun Mar 17 08:04:49 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:04:49 -0000 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: Can anyone in Europe help with the following: Leslie West and Mountain are playing venues in Germany and The Netherlands but we can`t find info on venues or tickets. We need the venue for 18/05 Hannover Germany and the venue and town 19/05 The Netherlands. Anyone able to shed any light? Much appriciated Si The Alice Cooper Trivia File: www.sickthingsuk.co.uk From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Mar 17 13:37:52 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:37:52 EST Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: In a message dated 3/17/02 5:15:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK writes: > Can anyone in Europe help with the following: > > Leslie West and Mountain are playing venues in Germany and The Netherlands > but we can`t find info on venues or tickets. We need the venue for 18/05 > Hannover Germany and the venue and town 19/05 The Netherlands. > > Anyone able to shed any light? > > Much appriciated > > Si can't help w/venue or ticket info but i'm sure anyone else on this list could also have pointed out that you definitely won't be seeing Leslie West either way, seeing as how "Leslie's not w/us anymore, he's passed away ya know..." Chuck From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 17 15:22:55 2002 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:22:55 EST Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: Dear Folks, Chuck, my friend, if you are implying that the great Leslie West has passed away, I am happy to suggest you check your facts. Unless something very awful has happened very recently that I'm unaware of Mr. West is very much alive. I've seen him play here in New York a few times this year. Perhaps you were thinking of late Mountain bassist Felix Papplardi who passed away many years ago. Hope this helps, Yours Eli Friedman In a message dated 3/17/02 1:41:35 PM, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: << In a message dated 3/17/02 5:15:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK writes: > Can anyone in Europe help with the following: > > Leslie West and Mountain are playing venues in Germany and The Netherlands > but we can`t find info on venues or tickets. We need the venue for 18/05 > Hannover Germany and the venue and town 19/05 The Netherlands. > > Anyone able to shed any light? > > Much appriciated > > Si can't help w/venue or ticket info but i'm sure anyone else on this list could also have pointed out that you definitely won't be seeing Leslie West either way, seeing as how "Leslie's not w/us anymore, he's passed away ya know..." Chuck From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Sun Mar 17 15:07:06 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:07:06 -0000 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: Subject: Re: OFF: Mountain in Europe > can't help w/venue or ticket info but i'm sure anyone else on this list could > also have pointed out that you definitely won't be seeing Leslie West either > way, seeing as how "Leslie's not w/us anymore, he's passed away ya know..." > Chuck Really, I`ll have to tell him. Myself and friends saw 4 shows on the UK tour last week and spent time with the band(Leslie, Corky Laing and Richie Scarlet) backstage and at their hotel. He was looking damned good for a dead guy! In fact he even signed my CD! It`s Felix that`s dead, not Leslie. :) Si From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Mar 17 15:31:11 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:31:11 -0000 Subject: OFF: MulletsGalore Message-ID: www.mulletsgalore.com Be prepared for some scary sights!! Nick From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 17 16:49:22 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 16:49:22 EST Subject: OFF: Motorhead/'Hammered' fan review Message-ID: one longtime (since 'bomber') fan's opinion: good, not great... lyrics are brilliant throughout; theres a section in 'brave new world' about jesus that is just hilarious, and a spoken section during 'voices from the war' that is very effective as well. 'serial killer' is awesome, just masterful.lem is surely at the top of his lyrical game here. production is strange to these ears; the drums are much lower in the mix than on any other album with mr dee, and what a difference it makes! lem's vocals seem louder as well, but this just may be a result of the 'missing' drums. bass sound is great, a mix of the last lp's driving mid and 'o'night sensation's slick low-end. lem's playing is fantastic, devaiting from the guitar lines often; playing Bass Lines! not hearing any "classics"; though 'no remorse' has the intensity and menace of 'orgasmatron' (really!), and 'red raw' is much in the vein of 'die you bastard'. 'voices...' and 'brave...' are excellent, too. 'walk a crooked mile' is almost 6 minutes long, with lots of multi-lemmy harmonies throughout, a strange 1st track/1st impression. i think any new motorhead lp should be judged against the last 6; and alas, i think 'hammered' comes in last at #7. still plenty of stuff here for the motorfan to get excited about, but certainly not as strong as the last few. love the cover; looks like a beer bottle label to me... just my opinion, bobm From bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Mar 17 15:15:13 2002 From: bernhard.pospiech at T-ONLINE.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:15:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe In-Reply-To: <008301c1cdb4$52bfe680$0100a8c0@kermitz> Message-ID: Hello Si Try the following link: http://www.hannover.de/cgi-bin/events/maske2_eng?eng=1&Ort=Hannover cheers Bernhard At 13:04 17.03.2002 +0000, you wrote: >Can anyone in Europe help with the following: > >Leslie West and Mountain are playing venues in Germany and The Netherlands >but we can`t find info on venues or tickets. We need the venue for 18/05 >Hannover Germany and the venue and town 19/05 The Netherlands. > >Anyone able to shed any light? > >Much appriciated > >Si > > > >The Alice Cooper Trivia File: www.sickthingsuk.co.uk > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Mar 17 13:56:33 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:56:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:37:52PM -0500, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: => can't help w/venue or ticket info but i'm sure anyone else on this list could => also have pointed out that you definitely won't be seeing Leslie West either => way, seeing as how "Leslie's not w/us anymore, he's passed away ya know..." Maybe you're thinking of Felix Pappalardi? AFAIK, Leslie West is very much alive and well... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Sun Mar 17 19:58:46 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 00:58:46 -0000 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: Subject: Re: OFF: Mountain in Europe > Try the following link: > http://www.hannover.de/cgi-bin/events/maske2_eng?eng=1&Ort=Hannover > cheers > Bernhard Thanks Bernhard, that`s the sort of thing I needed. Si From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Sun Mar 17 20:52:09 2002 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:52:09 -0700 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: Well, yes, but he DOES have diabetes. He's not quite the "Mountain" he used to be (but good for him!). Guido Paul Mather wrote: >On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:37:52PM -0500, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >=> can't help w/venue or ticket info but i'm sure anyone else on this list could >=> also have pointed out that you definitely won't be seeing Leslie West either >=> way, seeing as how "Leslie's not w/us anymore, he's passed away ya know..." > >Maybe you're thinking of Felix Pappalardi? AFAIK, Leslie West is very >much alive and well... > >Cheers, > >Paul. > >e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > >"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 18 06:32:37 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 06:32:37 EST Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: Amazing dedication - to continue touring for the fans after death - My admiration has increased ten fold Niche!!!!! ---------------------- Really, I`ll have to tell him. Myself and friends saw 4 shows on the UK tour last week and spent time with the band(Leslie, Corky Laing and Richie Scarlet) backstage and at their hotel. He was looking damned good for a dead guy! In fact he even signed my CD! It`s Felix that`s dead, not Leslie. :) From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Mon Mar 18 07:31:31 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:31:31 -0000 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: Subject: Re: OFF: Mountain in Europe He did have a bad shoulder that was causing him problems, but I don`t think it was terminal! Si > Amazing dedication - to continue touring for the fans after death - My admiration has increased ten fold > > Niche!!!!! > > ---------------------- > Really, I`ll have to tell him. Myself and friends saw 4 shows on the UK tour > last week and spent time with the band(Leslie, Corky Laing and Richie > Scarlet) backstage and at their hotel. He was looking damned good for a > dead guy! 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Mar 14 20:35:15 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:35:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: (more likely) Pharaoh Overlord, Mike Gunn Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:38:28 -0500, K Henderson wrote: >And a quick note that I just saw a CD copy of Mike Gunn's Durban Poison >(with more stuff from another old LP of theirs) up on ebay.com. This is >the band that spawned psych-droners Charalambides and heavy-psychsters >Linus Pauling Quartet ... I gotta give the 'Durban Poison' CD (which includes their entire debut album, 'Hemp For Victory') a big thumbs-up. Definite Black Sabbath, Hawkwind and Gerry Anderson (do I have that name right? the puppets guy - Fireball XL5 etc. etc.) inspirations abound. > ... and now is related to Hawkwind (in perhaps more ways than >one?) since one guy from Mike Gunn now plays in Primordial Undermind >(Austin TX version), Tom Carter, who's also in Charalambides. >a band that just recently featured (in the San >Francisco version) one Doug Pearson, responsible to some unknown extent for >(recording, mastering, releasing?) California Brainstorm (which is also up >on ebay in several places) Nope, no responsibility whatsoever on my part. I did nothing except applaud at the show (I've heard myself on a few audience tapes of Bay Area shows, but that CD is straight from the board). Frank "Phil Dirt" Luft deserves 100% of the credit for that one. I just happened to be the second- biggest Hawkwind fan at KFJC ... And the closest way to link Primordial Undermind to Hawkwind is NOT through me: Nick "Bevis Frond" Saloman played guest lead guitar on Primordial Undermind's first recording. Bevis Frond's bass player is Adrian Shaw. >and for certain bits of insight about great >albums that you have to 60% ignore to enjoy. :) erm, yes ... ignoring at least 60% of my so-called "insight" will probably increase your enjoyment of many things ... ;^) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Mar 14 20:18:02 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:18:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in Pulse! Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:58:27 -0600, Arin Komins wrote: >On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Frank Weil wrote: >:Hawkwind is mentioned in the March 2002 issue of Pulse! magazine from >:Tower Records in an article called "Other Voices - The birth of a >:musical counterculture". I wonder if Scott Schindler (sp?) still writes for 'Pulse'? He's a big Hawkwind fan, and regularly mentioned the Griffin reissue program back in the mid 90's in 'Pulse'. I didn't see an author credit in the online version - is there one in the magazine, Frank? >bits of this article appear to be online. > >I'm looking at: > >http://pulse.towerrecords.com/contentStory.asp?contentId=4937 Did you notice the sidebar that lists 'Space Ritual' as one of the top 20 or so "Underground" albums along with the usual suspects (VU, MC5, etc.)? Pretty cool! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >The "article" starts at: > >http://pulse.towerrecords.com/section.asp?publicationId=74 From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Mar 19 02:04:51 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 02:04:51 EST Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: In a message dated 3/17/02 12:26:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, EliPXR5 at AOL.COM writes: > Dear Folks, > Chuck, my friend, if you are implying that the great Leslie > West > has passed away, I am happy to suggest you check your facts. Unless > something > very awful has happened very recently that I'm unaware of Mr. West is very > much alive. I've seen him play here in New York a few times this year. > Perhaps you were thinking of late Mountain bassist Felix Papplardi who > passed away many years ago. Hope this helps, Yours Eli Friedman > Oops. "Shame mode"... :) Chuck From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Tue Mar 19 04:42:23 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:42:23 -0000 Subject: HW: Mick Slattery Message-ID: Hey folks In case you haven't yet seen this..... For a brief but fascinating version of the origins of Hawkwind through the eyes of Mick Slattery, visit http://www.xhawkwind.com/ The basic story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it. Dave From jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE Tue Mar 19 06:36:49 2002 From: jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE (Jean Collin) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:36:49 +0100 Subject: atom gods In-Reply-To: <200203152159.QAA06243@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Could anyone tell me more about a band calles Atom Gods ? They released an LP on GWR in '88 and i firmly believ ther must be some HW connection! Cheers, jean At 16:59 15/03/02 -0500, you wrote: > >From a recent issue of NewTimesLA (where I'm trying to find the article on >my friend Doug Miller's birthday party at Spaceland tomorrow night ... I'll >be there! In case any of you LA folks are up for some loud punkrock): > >"Tuesday night at the Derby, while celebrating some sort of power pop >renaissance with Smile Records acts Supremium and the recently signed >Hutch, late '80s/early '90s shoulda-been-superstars Dramarama reformed and >played onstage together for the first time in eight years. The unscheduled >reunion came as a result of the misfortune of ailing Smile artist Stew, who >was also set to perform on the bill but fractured his ankle over the >weekend while reportedly attempting to dance along to side four of >Hawkwind's Space Ritual album." > >Trying to emulate Stacia?!?! (That's the side with "Time We Left" ... I'd >probably break an ankle if I tried to dance along to Lemmy's bass solo!) > >http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/2002-02-28/freekshow.html/1/index.html > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 19 09:23:43 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:23:43 EST Subject: atom gods Message-ID: only 'connection' i can see is that algy ward (tank/the damned) was the bassist...eddie clarke produced tank's debut lp, and they toured with motorhead on the 'no sleep' tour. lem also recorded the motordamned single...tenuous, yes, but that's the only connection i see. bobm From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Mar 19 11:27:22 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:27:22 -0500 Subject: atom gods Message-ID: Atomgods was Trev Thoms(judge Trev) band. Theres not really a connection other than he was in Inner city unit with Nik Turner. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Collin" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:36 AM Subject: atom gods > Could anyone tell me more about a band calles Atom Gods ? They released an > LP on GWR in '88 and i firmly believ ther must be some HW connection! > Cheers, > jean > > At 16:59 15/03/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >From a recent issue of NewTimesLA (where I'm trying to find the article on > >my friend Doug Miller's birthday party at Spaceland tomorrow night ... I'll > >be there! In case any of you LA folks are up for some loud punkrock): > > > >"Tuesday night at the Derby, while celebrating some sort of power pop > >renaissance with Smile Records acts Supremium and the recently signed > >Hutch, late '80s/early '90s shoulda-been-superstars Dramarama reformed and > >played onstage together for the first time in eight years. The unscheduled > >reunion came as a result of the misfortune of ailing Smile artist Stew, who > >was also set to perform on the bill but fractured his ankle over the > >weekend while reportedly attempting to dance along to side four of > >Hawkwind's Space Ritual album." > > > >Trying to emulate Stacia?!?! (That's the side with "Time We Left" ... I'd > >probably break an ankle if I tried to dance along to Lemmy's bass solo!) > > > >http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/2002-02-28/freekshow.html/1/index.html > > > > -Doug > > jasret at mindspring.com From micci at SCI.FI Tue Mar 19 12:05:15 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:05:15 +0200 Subject: atom gods Message-ID: Trevor Thoms. There is atleast two The Atomgods album: Wow (gwr gwlp 30) History Rewritten (CMGLP 004) I have History.. It?s trash or something metal. >only 'connection' i can see is that algy ward (tank/the damned) was the >bassist...eddie clarke produced tank's debut lp, and they toured with >motorhead on the 'no sleep' tour. lem also recorded the motordamned >single...tenuous, yes, but that's the only connection i see. >bobm > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Mar 19 13:06:53 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:06:53 -0000 Subject: atom gods Message-ID: I'm pretty damn sure that Nik guests on sax on the album (uncredited) on one track. For further connectivity Steve Pond played bass with them for a bit (no albums) and the drummer was Kofi Baker, Ginger's son. That enough? Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen lindas" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: Re: atom gods > Atomgods was Trev Thoms(judge Trev) band. Theres not really a connection > other than he was in Inner city unit with Nik Turner. Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Collin" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:36 AM > Subject: atom gods > > > > Could anyone tell me more about a band calles Atom Gods ? They released an > > LP on GWR in '88 and i firmly believ ther must be some HW connection! > > Cheers, > > jean > > > > At 16:59 15/03/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > >From a recent issue of NewTimesLA (where I'm trying to find the article > on > > >my friend Doug Miller's birthday party at Spaceland tomorrow night ... > I'll > > >be there! In case any of you LA folks are up for some loud punkrock): > > > > > >"Tuesday night at the Derby, while celebrating some sort of power pop > > >renaissance with Smile Records acts Supremium and the recently signed > > >Hutch, late '80s/early '90s shoulda-been-superstars Dramarama reformed > and > > >played onstage together for the first time in eight years. The > unscheduled > > >reunion came as a result of the misfortune of ailing Smile artist Stew, > who > > >was also set to perform on the bill but fractured his ankle over the > > >weekend while reportedly attempting to dance along to side four of > > >Hawkwind's Space Ritual album." > > > > > >Trying to emulate Stacia?!?! (That's the side with "Time We Left" ... > I'd > > >probably break an ankle if I tried to dance along to Lemmy's bass solo!) > > > > > >http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/2002-02-28/freekshow.html/1/index.html > > > > > > -Doug > > > jasret at mindspring.com > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Mar 19 13:35:20 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:35:20 -0500 Subject: atom gods In-Reply-To: <20020319170515.757D722AB6@velli.mail.jippii.net>; from micci@SCI.FI on Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 07:05:15PM +0200 Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 07:05:15PM +0200, Miikka Wagner wrote: > It?s trash or something metal. Meaning the two are indistinguishable? :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Mar 19 13:44:28 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:44:28 +0100 Subject: atom gods Message-ID: stephen lindas wrote: > Atomgods was Trev Thoms(judge Trev) band. Theres not really a connection > other than he was in Inner city unit with Nik Turner. Cheers STEPHE Turner played flute and sax on a few tracks on "Wow!", though he isn?t credited on the album. Andreas From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Mar 19 15:53:25 2002 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:53:25 -0500 Subject: SLOTERDIJK: update 3/19/02 ( new cd progresses) Message-ID: Greetings friends, at long last, production of material for the forthcoming new cd is moving ahead. Final mixing and processing will begin shortly. At the time of this writing, the new disc will include at least seven cuts. The title of the disc is tentatively slated to be: "Beware the charlatans" (I am the fourth beast) song titles: Circle of Eternity Free The Gnome Space Love Ahi-Ahi Flashbacks (Eckstedt/Leary) Philosopher's Disease *The Thunderbirds ( Live 2000 Philadelphia; on "The Traveling Outerspace Spectacular Tour", supporting Harvey Bainbridge of Hawkwind Artwork for the new cd will be a bit more elaborate this time round, with full color images, and picture. At this time, we have no plans to perform live, however we are interested in doing a few very select gigs during the summer season. Peace, Mike Burro www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Mar 19 16:01:58 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:01:58 -0500 Subject: HW: Mick Slattery Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 09:42:23 -0000, Dave Bottomley wrote: >For a brief but fascinating version of the origins of Hawkwind >through the eyes of Mick Slattery, visit > >http://www.xhawkwind.com/ > >The basic story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it. You mean details like, "It also gave Nik the opportunity to heat up his tin of baked beans ..."? One of the best explanations of the band name yet! ;^) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Mar 19 18:13:53 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:13:53 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind's Lemmy, Nik and... In-Reply-To: <200201280804.DAA11149@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 02:45:26AM -0500 Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 02:45:26AM -0500, K Henderson typed out: > Zlak spake... > >Does Lemmy even care anymore that he can't have a Green Card? > > As Dan said, seems to me he's lived in LA for a good decade. > > However, what you say isn't so out-of-the-realm-of-possibility given that > Simon House was detained in LA for 24 hours in 2000 on their way down to > Australia/NZ, based on a drug arrest in 1974-75 (I imagine). And not sure > about Brock himself in 1998 at Niagara, whether that was drugs or some crap > about being a general ne'er-do-well to young kids' minds (as if we were all > likely to start staging demonstrations against the Vietnam War or > something). Tree I assume was drugs...does anybody know if something went > down with him in '95 or '97? I understand that the reason Mr Tree was turned away was that he turned up with no luggage (and I think someone told me no passport though I can't see how he'd have got as far as the US side of the Atlantic without one) bar a carrier bag, dressed in his own particular style, and they decided he was `undesirable'. Don't know how true this is, though. I didn't hear that it was drugs, anyway, just being unreal. > >Nik seems like a charming fellow, and willing to work with just about > >any musician, and has been making new pacts in recent years with Hawkwind > >alumni. > > Some would argue that that's because he can't do anything successfully on > his own. But not me! :) Nik got back in touch with everybody he could in pursuit of the reunion gig as far as I can tell, which must have been a huge effort. That that gig happened at all has got to redound massively to Nik's credit. I do wish he'd attempt some more blanga though, he always seemed to be able to do that all right. I wouldn't mind seeing XHawkwind hit a studio [1] but even working with the LA groups again would be good. > >The burning question I have, is why doesn't Nik and company join > >forces with Lemmy and record some new material, on the side; an album > >between Motorhead albums/tours. Definitely not as Hawkwind > > I'll say. :) What kind of beast would that be anyway? I'd hardly see the > point....though I suppose Nik could play some bigband-type sax when Lemmy > does his stuff with the dude from Stray Cats et al. But what does that have > to do with Hawkwind, past present or future? Nothing. I wouldn't buy it. > And of course, Nik lives in Wales (I think), and Lemmy in LA. Quite apart from that I don't think Lemmy thinks that much of Nik. There was an interview with him while the reunion gig was still in uncertain territory in which the interviewer asked, as if it were accepted fact, whether he held a grudge against Nik for chucking him out of Hawkwind and Lemmy's reply was, "He just rang me up to apologise for that the other day, you know." I read from this that Nik had to eat a fair portion of humble pie for that one. But more, Lemmy doesn't seem to do non-professional stuff these days, he's got a self-image as a Professional Musician (tm) and I can't see him just launching out and having a laugh on an XHawkwind venture knowing how chaotic it would probably be. He'd just think it was a waste of his time, or such is my impression. All my opinions, anyway, usual disclaimers apply, yours, Jon [1] It might be awful. But you'd want to find out :-) ObCD: Gong - _Camembert Electrique_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Mar 19 18:47:41 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:47:41 +0000 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet - _Tab_ (was: The Hard & The Heavy Vol I) In-Reply-To: <200201292056.PAA08254@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:36:57PM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:36:57PM -0500, K Henderson typed out: > JJ, > > On 25...tab... > > >> This one came out on CD a couple times I believe, and usually (I think) > >> includes the two tracks from a 7" single (Murder b/w Tractor). And these > >> are not credited on the CD booklet/insert, so there's confusion there, > >> compounded by the fact that track two is both "25" and "Longhair" (that > >> starts about 8 minutes in FWIR). So there's four tracks listed, five > >> tracks indexed, but yet six tracks on the actual CD. Again, the title > >> track "Tab" is over a half-hour long, so it's a full length release for > >> sure. > > > > My version isn't quite like that. There's the 32-minute monster > >`Tab... ', then there's `25' which is two tracks as you describe, > > Yep, the "second" track there is "Longhair" I believe. > > >then `Longhair', quite separate, indexing and everything, > > This is "Lord 13" then, not "Longhair." > > >then `Lord 13' which is in fact `Murder' from the S/T and single. > > Yep. > > >Then `Tractor' which isn't listed but is definitely there. > > Yep. > > >So the same numbers as you give but not > >the same divisions. Top stuff throughout though. > > No, I think your CD is exactly like mine, but you didn't make the 'shift one > title up' connection with the two-indexed-as-one deal. Not meaning to quibble, but are you sure you have `Longhair' and `Lord 13' correct there? The only reason I have it my way round is that the words `long hair' actually occur in the track I thought was the one of that name, and I'm just interested as to how you can tell the difference if not by that? I figured that as the two tracks after `Tab' itself don't break in the middle that they were one, `25', and the new track after them must be `Longhair' and the lyrics just made up my mind for me. Um, why do you think different? Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Mar 19 20:25:38 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:25:38 -0500 Subject: HW: Lemmy's six-string Message-ID: One question that seems to pop up from time to time is about the photos of Lemmy (presumably early HW era) holding a six-string guitar. I believe that someone on the list identified it as a Burns Bison (although a search of the archives for "Bison" only turned up a bunch of posts on Bevis Frond side projects). It turns out that he got it from another well-known rock musician ... >From http://www.j-tull.com/IAequipment.htm : "Later came the Burns Black Bison, an elaborately horned devil played through a Burns 30 watt amp and which was soon traded in against a vintage (although then a mere few years old) white Fender Stratocaster. This was purchased from Lemmy, the rhythm guitarist with Reverend Black and The Rocking Vicars for thirty pounds. Lemmy and I probably both wish we had kept the thing to this day, since it would be worth around ten thousand in the condition in which we owned it. Lemmy went on to a lengthy career with Motorhead and a lifelong entanglement with the loudest bass guitar on the planet." - Ian Anderson (I found this info in a web search after reading a post on usenet that claimed that Lemmy got his first Rickenbacker bass from Ian Anderson pre-Jethro Tull; not likely, since that would have been 67/68, and Lemmy never touched a bass until he joined Hawkwind in '72!) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Mar 19 21:35:57 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:35:57 +0800 Subject: atom gods Message-ID: Wasn't there a track by them on one of the Friends & Relations albums? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:06 AM Subject: Re: atom gods > I'm pretty damn sure that Nik guests on sax on the album (uncredited) on one > track. For further connectivity Steve Pond played bass with them for a bit > (no albums) and the drummer was Kofi Baker, Ginger's son. That enough? > > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stephen lindas" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:27 PM > Subject: Re: atom gods > > > > Atomgods was Trev Thoms(judge Trev) band. Theres not really a connection > > other than he was in Inner city unit with Nik Turner. Cheers STEPHE > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jean Collin" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:36 AM > > Subject: atom gods > > > > > > > Could anyone tell me more about a band calles Atom Gods ? They released > an > > > LP on GWR in '88 and i firmly believ ther must be some HW connection! > > > Cheers, > > > jean > > > > > > At 16:59 15/03/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >From a recent issue of NewTimesLA (where I'm trying to find the > article > > on > > > >my friend Doug Miller's birthday party at Spaceland tomorrow night ... > > I'll > > > >be there! In case any of you LA folks are up for some loud punkrock): > > > > > > > >"Tuesday night at the Derby, while celebrating some sort of power pop > > > >renaissance with Smile Records acts Supremium and the recently signed > > > >Hutch, late '80s/early '90s shoulda-been-superstars Dramarama reformed > > and > > > >played onstage together for the first time in eight years. The > > unscheduled > > > >reunion came as a result of the misfortune of ailing Smile artist Stew, > > who > > > >was also set to perform on the bill but fractured his ankle over the > > > >weekend while reportedly attempting to dance along to side four of > > > >Hawkwind's Space Ritual album." > > > > > > > >Trying to emulate Stacia?!?! (That's the side with "Time We Left" ... > > I'd > > > >probably break an ankle if I tried to dance along to Lemmy's bass > solo!) > > > > > > > >http://www.newtimesla.com/issues/2002-02-28/freekshow.html/1/index.html > > > > > > > > -Doug > > > > jasret at mindspring.com > > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 20 00:29:13 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:29:13 EST Subject: HW: Hawkwind's Lemmy, Nik and... Message-ID: It is illeagal for travel agents to sell and hand a ticket over to someone without first seeing the valid passport - not to mention that they won't let you on a plane without you first showing your passport...... So unless Ron Tree made it to America via Levitation I doubt that story 100% - and if he did Fly to America via Levitation - why bother going thru customs?? Bruce ------------------------ I understand that the reason Mr Tree was turned away was that he turned up with no luggage (and I think someone told me no passport though I can't see how he'd have got as far as the US side of the Atlantic without one) bar a carrier bag, dressed in his own particular style, and they decided he was `undesirable'. Don't know how true this is, though. I didn't hear that it was drugs, anyway, just being unreal. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Mar 20 10:10:57 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:10:57 +0000 Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock In-Reply-To: <002b01c1a9ca$b7e9df10$581c0150@yourpnqspyopyu>; from nick.lee2@VIRGIN.NET on Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 08:14:26PM -0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 08:14:26PM -0000, Nick Lee typed out: > > Just clearing up a few things from recent posts: > > > > 1) As far as I know Simon King wasn't at the Hawkestra at all, even as a > > walk-on. There'a also some mystery as to where he is and why he's so > > reticent to come forward - the guy I've been in contact with who *claims* > > to be SK apparently is afraud, according to his ex-wife. But then when I > > pressed her to get in touch with the real SK, she clammed up and hasn't > > replied to emails since 8-(( > > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ > > Tho' oddly enough I do remember seeing someone who loke the spit of a young > Simon King while queuing up for a drink. Obviously not him, but it made me > do a double-take. I think I saw him at the ICU Xmas gig, too. I double-took several times but eventually decided he wasn't tall enough, or old enough, or quite the same round the face. But the resemblance was enough to cause me some disconcertment (if that's a word). Yours, Jon ObCD: Black Sabbath - _Sabotage_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From sebastian at WELTON.DE Wed Mar 20 13:02:34 2002 From: sebastian at WELTON.DE (Sebastian Welton) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:02:34 -0500 Subject: atom gods Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:36:49 +0100, Jean Collin wrote: >Could anyone tell me more about a band calles Atom Gods ? They released an >LP on GWR in '88 and i firmly believ ther must be some HW connection! >Cheers, >jean I have Wow which is not bad plus I bought some tapes from Trev Thoms when ICU played in Frankfurt which consists of members of both ICU and Atomgods. Cheers Seb From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Mar 20 13:25:11 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:25:11 -0000 Subject: HW: Lemmy's six-string Message-ID: True, Lemmy's first bass was a Hopf (courtesy of London Airport), which he loved, but was one of several items nicked from the band sometime in 1972. His first Rickenbacker was a Red 4000, customised (of course) with a second pick-up, and later sanded down to a plain wood finish and known as the 'Out To Lunch' Bass. This one apparantly got trashed by a roadie during the first few years with Motorhead. > > (I found this info in a web search after reading a post on usenet that claimed that Lemmy got his first Rickenbacker bass from Ian Anderson pre-Jethro Tull; not likely, since that would have been 67/68, and Lemmy never touched a bass until he joined Hawkwind in '72!) > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Mar 20 16:12:51 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:12:51 -0500 Subject: HW: Lemmy's six-string Message-ID: Thanks for the additional information, warning: nit-picky Rickenbacker bass trivia follows ... On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:25:11 -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >True, Lemmy's first bass was a Hopf (courtesy of London Airport), which he >loved, but was one of several items nicked from the band sometime in 1972. Any idea if he would have been playing that one on the 'Greasy Truckers' recordings, since those were done after he'd only been in the band for a few weeks? >His first Rickenbacker was a Red 4000, Do any pictures of this one exist? I don't recall seeing one with a two knob bass (4000 = 1 pickup, 2 knobs, no switch; 4001/4001s = 2 pickups, 4 knobs, 1 switch), but I could be mistaken. His bass in the Space Ritual photos looks black (but it's tough to tell under the lighting) with 4 knobs IIRC. He seems to have only very rarely used a "standard" 4001; I've mostly seen photos with the 4001s [or possibly 4000] model - 4000/4001s = fretboard dots, no binding; 4001 "standard" = triangle markers on fretboard, binding on body & neck.) >customised (of course) with a second pick-up, ... from a Gibson Thunderbird (60s-era single-coil, not 70s/later-era humbucker), I believe he's mentioned that a few times (and actually played a T-Bird during the 'Warrior' era - the distinctive headstock - nothing like a Rickenbacker's - can be recognized in many photos, even in silhouette on the 'Warrior' inner sleeve) ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 20 16:31:52 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:31:52 EST Subject: HW: Lemmy's six-string Message-ID: In a message dated 3/20/2002 4:13:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > and actually played > a T-Bird during the 'Warrior' era anybody remember when he played a washburn during the "another perfect day" tour? yeeuucchhh bobm From jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE Wed Mar 20 18:22:55 2002 From: jeancollin at TISCALINET.BE (Jean Collin) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:22:55 +0100 Subject: atom gods In-Reply-To: <200203201802.NAA06577@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: thanks to you all; i wasn't hoping for so much interesting info! I have two copies of Wow if anyone's interested to swap! jean At 13:02 20/03/02 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:36:49 +0100, Jean Collin >wrote: > > >Could anyone tell me more about a band calles Atom Gods ? They released an > >LP on GWR in '88 and i firmly believ ther must be some HW connection! > >Cheers, > >jean > >I have Wow which is not bad plus I bought some tapes from Trev Thoms when >ICU played in Frankfurt which consists of members of both ICU and Atomgods. > >Cheers > >Seb From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Mar 20 18:32:19 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:32:19 -0600 Subject: new mission control stuff Message-ID: Hi there folks, This is for Rik (hw at cy-b.org), who is having a bit of difficulty posting to the list at the moment: loads of new updates on MC updates page..... Yule ritual cover reprint... Festivl weekend dates announced... new IRC chat soon... new voiceprint release soon.... http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Mar 20 18:33:18 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:33:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: Circle on Ebay Message-ID: Hi Folks... This is sort of a test message to see if the list is even up now (or is it *that* quiet?)... But anyway, I noticed today that there is a copy of Circle (Finland) - Fraten CD up there on Ebay (Item # 851779437) - ends later today - for an opening bid of $3.00, still unclaimed. I should point out that this is their most laid-back disc, much more cheery and post-rock oriented than their other more aggressive and/or gloomy works. Still very creative and exciting in its own way and as an oop-import should find a good home at that price from amongst the masses here. Grakkl (FAA) From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Mar 20 19:06:47 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:06:47 -0600 Subject: HW: new mission control stuff Message-ID: Hi there folks, This is for Rik (hw at cy-b.org), webmaster for Mission Control, who is having a bit of difficulty posting to the list at the moment: loads of new updates on MC updates page..... Yule ritual cover reprint... Festivl weekend dates announced... new IRC chat soon... new voiceprint release soon.... http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Mar 20 20:58:53 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:58:53 +0800 Subject: OFF: Circle on Ebay Message-ID: Thanks for that. I'll give it a go Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: OFF: Circle on Ebay > Hi Folks... > > This is sort of a test message to see if the list is even up now (or is it > *that* quiet?)... > > But anyway, I noticed today that there is a copy of Circle (Finland) - > Fraten CD up there on Ebay (Item # 851779437) - ends later today - for an > opening bid of $3.00, still unclaimed. I should point out that this is > their most laid-back disc, much more cheery and post-rock oriented than > their other more aggressive and/or gloomy works. Still very creative and > exciting in its own way and as an oop-import should find a good home at that > price from amongst the masses here. > > Grakkl (FAA) > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Mar 20 22:39:40 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:39:40 EST Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: I saw some pics of Simon King at the rehearsals for the 2001 hawkestra. I recall some time back a mention that he might not have played at the 2000 Hawkestra because he was concerned about appearance change over the years. (could be false rumour for all I know - but thats what I read) but if that is the reason - forget that SIMON!! the years have been kind to you - I hope they are as kind to me. Mikale -------------------- I think I saw him at the ICU Xmas gig, too. I double-took several times but eventually decided he wasn't tall enough, or old enough, or quite the same round the face. But the resemblance was enough to cause me some disconcertment (if that's a word). Yours, Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Mar 21 03:42:42 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 03:42:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: New A-I.com radio shows Message-ID: Jerry K. passes along the following announcement... http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (March 20, 2002): We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio and The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown. See playlists below. The first Russian International Festival of Electronic, Electroacoustic, Experimental and Avant-Garde Music will take place in St. Petersburg, Russia from July 19 - August 1, 2002. Among the artists scheduled to attend are Manuel Gottsching & Ash Ra Tempel, Hans-Joachim Roedelius, Tim Story, Michael Rother, Dieter Moebius, Jeff Grienke, Peter Frohmader, and many many others. For detailed information you can visit http://www.electroshock.ru/eng/festival/index.html A SWAMP ROOM HAPPENING 2002 Europe's Biggest Sixties - Psychedelic - Garage & Acidpunk Festival May 18 - 19, 2002 Bei Chez Heinz / F?ssebad ? Hannover / Germany Scheduled bands include The Legendary Pink Dots, Mandra Gora Lightshow Society, On Trial, Baby Woodrose, Pancakes, and many more. For detailed information you can visit http://www.swamp-room.de. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (Show #44: General Playlist) Weltraumstaunen - "Pollenflug" (from Weltraumstaunen) Primordial Undermind - "Louse Dances For Laos" (from Beings Of Game P-U) Black Sun Ensemble - "Whirlpool Ocean" (from Hymn Of The Master) JFK Jr Royal Airforce - "Track 2 / 6231 Garbage Man" (from 2) Vine Sweetland & The Forefathers Of The New Millennium - "Raga Bhanga" (from Sativa: Single I) Man In Space - "Thanosphere" (from How To Potty Train A Supernova) Lord Litter - "Dub Diablo" (from Freudian Slip) Loopian Zu - "Aquawalk" (from Valley Of The Brains) buMscUzz - "The Storm Before The Calm" (from And/Or Stuff) Pseudo Buddha - "The Buddha Resists Tempation" (from Live At Ellis Bean 7-29-00, Hooka-Jooka Vol 2) Greg Segal - "What Once Was" (from In Search Of The Fantastic) Ludwig Kramer - "2000 Years...?" (from Being Content) The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown (Show #8: Experimental Electronic Music Special... ambient/aggressive... abstract/accessible) Hal McGee - "As/If" (from 1995-1997) Verde - "Kasvukeskus" (from Karhum Ep?ill??n Paskantaneen Golfkent?lle) Don Campau (with Carl "Nomuzic" Howard) - "At The Source" (from Heartbeat ?n Loopy) Musica Elettronica Viva (MEV) - ? (from Rome Concert) Mental Anguish & Nomuzic - "Blissful In Enchantro" (from Flamingo Road) DJ Urinal Cake - "Smashyawithterehash" (from Lavatory Corruption) Camera Obtusa - "Potential" (from Turtle) Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Company - "Downtown" (from Like A Duck To Water) Jukka Ruohomaki - "Hommage A Winston Smith" (from Electroshock Presents Electroacoustic Music Vol VI) Big City Orchestra - "Brain And Brain" (from Arc Of Infinity) Alien Planetscapes (Doug "Dr Synth" Walker solo) - "City In The Valley" (excerpt from Spaceboyz Social Club: Unreleased Recordings 1987-1988) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. New items in the Aural Innovations Space Rock mail order catalog: http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html Greg Segal - In Search Of The Fantastic: Greg was the guitarist with the 80's band Paper Bag, and the current guitarist with improv duo Jugalbandi. Using a variety of guitars, percussion, and, as he states, "more effects than should be reasonably allowed by law", Greg takes the listener on a journey that explores space ambient, often with a searing rocking edge, avant-progressive rock, solo guitar improvs, and plenty more that will surprise you. LOTS of variety here folks and headphones are an absolute must. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Mar 21 04:43:47 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 04:43:47 -0500 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: and made Bono the Emperor of the friggin' universe?! I never cared too much one way or the other about Bono and U2, though I firmly believe that their massive success was bolstered mainly by the sheer paucity of credible competition in the rock scene c. 1982. But what the goddamn hell is going on now? You'd think he has somehow encapsulated the ghostly essences of Lady Diana, Mother Theresa, and the guy who said "Let's Roll" on the 9/11 plane for this unprecedented credibility he seems to have in world politics all of a sudden. Either that, or he has a lot of photos of people in compromising situations. I dunno, maybe it's 'Touched by an Angel' syndrome...anything spoken with an Irish accent seems so much more sincere, eh? To which I say, what bollocks! No offense, this being just daze after 3/17. But if he shows up at the Oscars Sunday to feed off *that* horrifically bloated, effervescing media frenzy, I think the world will simply explode from too much build-up of 'hype' into one centralised location. Excuse me while I go induce vomiting into the nearest sink. Yours ever cynically, Grakkl (FAA), even though I thought A Beautiful Mind (one of about three movies I saw this past year) was worth the two hours spent in the theatre and don't care whether John Nash really picked up young men in the park as long as he wasn't hearing *their* confessions the next afternoon. From R.A.Williams at OPEN.AC.UK Thu Mar 21 05:56:49 2002 From: R.A.Williams at OPEN.AC.UK (Richard Williams) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:56:49 -0000 Subject: HW: Passport? Message-ID: I was just looking on the official HW page and they're doing a "3 day long private event in Devon in either early June or late July !!! The weekend will be for PASSPORT HOLDERS ONLY". Can someone let me know what the passport thing is all about??? Rich. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Mar 21 08:12:38 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:12:38 -0500 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: <200203211004.FAA04569@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: K Henderson wrote: > and made Bono the Emperor of the friggin' universe?! [Hilarious rant snipped] One of my college professors always spoke about Bono/U2, their perceived clout in the world of politics and their empathy for the downtrodden. He tried to tell us how it was all just a way to sell more albums. Needless to say, he made a lot of young, female Bono fans very upset! ;-) Brian From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Mar 21 08:55:05 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:55:05 -0500 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 08:12:38AM -0500, Brian Halligan wrote: => K Henderson wrote: => => > and made Bono the Emperor of the friggin' universe?! => => [Hilarious rant snipped] => => One of my college professors always spoke about Bono/U2, their perceived => clout in the world of politics and their empathy for the downtrodden. He => tried to tell us how it was all just a way to sell more albums. Needless to => say, he made a lot of young, female Bono fans very upset! ;-) Which just goes to show that no matter what one does, someone will manage to see bad in it. Hooray for curmudgeons everywhere! BTW, I didn't realise the Oscars were mandatory viewing. Is this some case of "we control the horizontal; we control the vertical" going on here that I don't know about? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 18 15:49:08 2002 From: Brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:49:08 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Operator logo Message-ID: Evening All Whilst doing a bit of aimless surfing I discovered a Hawkwind operator logo for mobile phones on the Kerrang site. I decided to waste no time in getting it very smart it looks as well. I shall now see if I can find a suitable ringtone to go with it. Brian From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 21 10:29:52 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:29:52 EST Subject: new mission control stuff Message-ID: Are the people who have allready registered for this event going to be contacted soon? I have registered and would love to get the concert ticket and air fare organised way in advance - Awaiting orders with MUCH anticipation Michael ------------------- This is for Rik (hw at cy-b.org), who is having a bit of difficulty posting to the list at the moment From micci at SCI.FI Thu Mar 21 11:16:11 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:16:11 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind Operator logo Message-ID: Hi! I have one. I made it my self :-) It?s just word hawkwind, but it?s look great! >Evening All > Whilst doing a bit of aimless surfing I discovered a Hawkwind >operator logo for mobile phones on the Kerrang site. I decided to waste >no time in getting it very smart it looks as well. I shall now see if I >can find a suitable ringtone to go with it. >Brian > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 21 12:01:40 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:01:40 EST Subject: HW: Passport? Message-ID: Its a special document that you recieve after applying that get you into special events such as this . and allows you to purchase members only merchandise The info on how to apply should be on the same page as well as a printable application form. get one asap and get stuck into the goodies :-) --------------------- I was just looking on the official HW page and they're doing a "3 day long private event in Devon in either early June or late July !!! The weekend will be for PASSPORT HOLDERS ONLY". Can someone let me know what the passport thing is all about??? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 21 12:24:18 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:24:18 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: A fair an honest opinion from a man of good standing - but even so - even if it is an attempt to gain attention and sell more records - the message(seed) is still being put out to(planted in) the minds of the kids etc - and if its a good message and of a humane nature for the good of mankind and it has effect - more power!! We plant the seed - nature grows the seed - and the rewards are reaped at harvest time..... ....inner reflection of the day..... ------------------------ => One of my college professors always spoke about Bono/U2, their perceived => clout in the world of politics and their empathy for the downtrodden. He => tried to tell us how it was all just a way to sell more albums. Needless to=> say, he made a lot of young, female Bono fans very upset! ;-) From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Mar 21 13:49:31 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:49:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Lemmy's six-string Message-ID: Doug, Yes, Lemmy played the Hopf on Greasy Truckers and on the later Silver Machine video, there are quite a few pics around of this - if you want one, email me off list. In fact, he'd been in the band quite a while by the time of Greasy Truckers. The Rickenbacker 4000 is pictured on Space Ritual and in just about every other Hawk-photo of Lemmy - its red on the cover (this was before the paint job), with two pickups - the second one has been added - you can tell if you look at the position of the four knobs, the alignment isn't the same formation as on a standard 4001. Regarding the Gibson, he alternated between this and the Ricky on the later 1974 and '75 tours - apparently he liked the sound of the pick-ups. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: Lemmy's six-string > Thanks for the additional information, warning: nit-picky Rickenbacker bass > trivia follows ... > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:25:11 -0000, Captain Bl at ck > wrote: > >True, Lemmy's first bass was a Hopf (courtesy of London Airport), which he > >loved, but was one of several items nicked from the band sometime in 1972. > > Any idea if he would have been playing that one on the 'Greasy Truckers' > recordings, since those were done after he'd only been in the band for a > few weeks? > > >His first Rickenbacker was a Red 4000, > > Do any pictures of this one exist? I don't recall seeing one with a two > knob bass (4000 = 1 pickup, 2 knobs, no switch; 4001/4001s = 2 pickups, 4 > knobs, 1 switch), but I could be mistaken. His bass in the Space Ritual > photos looks black (but it's tough to tell under the lighting) with 4 knobs > IIRC. He seems to have only very rarely used a "standard" 4001; I've > mostly seen photos with the 4001s [or possibly 4000] model - 4000/4001s = > fretboard dots, no binding; 4001 "standard" = triangle markers on > fretboard, binding on body & neck.) > > >customised (of course) with a second pick-up, > > ... from a Gibson Thunderbird (60s-era single-coil, not 70s/later-era > humbucker), I believe he's mentioned that a few times (and actually played > a T-Bird during the 'Warrior' era - the distinctive headstock - nothing > like a Rickenbacker's - can be recognized in many photos, even in > silhouette on the 'Warrior' inner sleeve) ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Mar 21 14:42:15 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:42:15 -0500 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: <70.19c074f1.29cb7143@aol.com> Message-ID: Michael W Blackman wrote: > A fair an honest opinion from a man of good standing - > > but even so - even if it is an attempt to gain attention and sell more records > - the message(seed) is still being put out to(planted in) the minds of the > kids etc - and if its a good message and of a humane nature for the good of > mankind and it has effect - more power!! Good point. It works for the Beastie Boys as well. Hey, now here's an idea. How about our favorite bands work to improve mankind? Imagine the record sales! Hawkwind and Uncle Sam team up to send humans to the Red Planet. or Eric Bloom becomes a lobbyist for the raising of speed limits and legalization of weed. (Ultimately getting arrested as "that weirdo loitering around Jimmy Carter's house.") From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Sun Mar 17 10:16:38 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:16:38 +0000 Subject: OFF: Mixing it Message-ID: Hi, Just thought that some might like to know that tonights Mixing It (17 March 11:00pm) features Bjork (lots of hard to get stuff?) Also they will play a track by Nico... My Only Child Public Enemy and others. But given the way my mail is going you read this too late:-( Chris -- Hurewitz's Memory Principle: The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to ..... to ........ uh .............. From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Mon Mar 18 18:21:44 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 23:21:44 +0000 Subject: OFF: e-mail problem Message-ID: Hi, Since Friday night there is no e-mail from BOC-L:-( I look on the web and I know there is some, also I have a little difficulty posting so you may not get this and if you do I may never see the reply The lights have gone out. Its all gone dark. Oh no I've fallen in the black hole, ....................................... Chris -- Hurewitz's Memory Principle: The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to ..... to ........ uh .............. From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Mar 21 07:44:17 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:44:17 +0000 Subject: HW: Space Sex Message-ID: >From: Stephan Forstner >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Space Sex >Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:59:26 -0500 > >AFAIK 'Space Sex' was an approximately 3 minute(?) long track that appeared >only on the vinyl version of Alien 4. I have pretty much given up hope of >ever hearing it, but if anyone has it, I was wondering if it might be >similar to or edited from the 'Surreal Sex Dreams' or Space Riders and Sex >Dreams' tracks on 'Memos and Demos'? > >Stephan Steve I can do a cassette 4 you If you want!!!It's pretty much instrumental,I'm glad I've got it and can help you with a copy.Alan Day. Kenton Harrow,R U in england? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Mar 21 15:55:42 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:55:42 -0500 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: >On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 08:12:38AM -0500, Brian Halligan wrote: >=> K Henderson wrote: >=> >=> > and made Bono the Emperor of the friggin' universe?! >=> >=> [Hilarious rant snipped] >=> >=> One of my college professors always spoke about Bono/U2, their perceived >=> clout in the world of politics and their empathy for the downtrodden. He >=> tried to tell us how it was all just a way to sell more albums. Needless to >=> say, he made a lot of young, female Bono fans very upset! ;-) > >Which just goes to show that no matter what one does, someone will >manage to see bad in it. Hooray for curmudgeons everywhere! ^^^ You misspelled self-aggrandizing. >BTW, I didn't realise the Oscars were mandatory viewing. Is this some >case of "we control the horizontal; we control the vertical" going on >here that I don't know about? Yes. I guess you didn't watch 60 Minutes this past Sunday, where Story 1 was about John Nash and the Beautiful Mind movie (nominated for 2 zillion Oscars) and Story 3 was about Dame Judi Dench, nominated as best actress for a movie that nobody has apparently seen, 'cause it really hasn't even been widely-released yet. It's ridiculous - you *can't* avoid it, without hibernating in an underground bunker with the shadow gov't (not the shadow gov't mule, which would only occur in times of Democratic leadership). And what's even more peculiar is that CBS (60 Minutes' network of course) isn't even showing the Oscars, so why are they promoting it? Probably just for the ratings boost for their own show....but then of course, with the way corporations are ever-increasingly tied together, it wouldn't surprise me if CBS and the studios that made these two movies both were under one even-larger multi-media enterprise and so the whole network of CBS is used as a marketing tool. I forget who owns who these days....another day, another merger. Sorry for speaking so blatantly off-topic, but nobody seems to have anything at the moment to say about BOC/HW. I did notice that Secret Treaties was No. 47 on the list of Rolling Stones' Top 50 Coolest Albums of All-time (whatever the hell that's supposed to represent). I'm decidedly uncool, 'cause I only own 3 of these 50, and that's out of about 3000 CDs that I have. ST was one of them of course, the others being The Beatles' Revolver (of which I only like one song) and Roxy Music's For Your Pleasure. V.U. showed up at No. 1 amazingly enough, but it just happened to be an album (WL,WH) I don't have (although I have a compilation with tracks from it). Grakkl (FAA) From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Mar 21 13:01:39 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:01:39 -0000 Subject: new mission control stuff Message-ID: Excellent - booked 19-22 Jul off work! Assuming I still have work then :( Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:32 PM Subject: new mission control stuff > Hi there folks, > > This is for Rik (hw at cy-b.org), who is having a bit of difficulty posting > to the list at the moment: > > loads of new updates on MC updates page..... Yule ritual cover > reprint... Festivl weekend dates announced... new IRC chat soon... new > voiceprint release soon.... > > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm > > Thanks, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Mar 21 19:14:13 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:14:13 -0500 Subject: HW: OFF: More seen on Ebay, Stoner Rock Message-ID: Hi there... Was doing some more Ebay surfing today, and noticed that there's somebody up in NE Ohio selling some interesting HW-related items, like the Live In Space (Italian) book & CD, Harvey's Red Shift (not sure if it's the original or CDR re-release), Farflung's Belief Module (rare!) and more. You can do a search by seller under the name/email of: haystack at alltel.net The name suggests to me that this may very well be one Steve Hayes, who I think is trying to raise money to come to live in England to continue Star Nation activities. So if you want to contribute to that cause... :) And on that note, if someone wants to help my Schweiz-relocation fund, you can always search on crystalmachine (that's me obviously). Over the next few months, there should be some of my old vinyl and bunches of CDs there too. There's a few up right now actually (leftovers from sales you've already seen here mostly). I'm a PayPal-accepting guy now, so that makes things easier. Um, anybody heard the new batch of Stoner Rock discs hitting the marketplace? Orange Goblin has Coup de Grace out, the Heads have a new one (out yet?), and the LA groups are still greatly active (Nebula, Fu Manchu, etc.). I'm tiring a bit from that whole scene now, since there's too many bands doing pretty much the same bloody thing, so I would like to know if anyone's doing something particularly different and spaced-out. I did like the Scene Killer project CD on Meteor City - I'd recommend that one to those who are looking for a touch of variety. Grakkl (FAA) From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Mar 21 13:05:17 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:05:17 -0000 Subject: new mission control stuff Message-ID: > Are the people who have allready registered for this event going to be contacted soon? I have registered and would love to get the concert ticket and air fare organised way in advance Wondering similarly... Nick From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Mar 21 16:48:52 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:48:52 -0500 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:42:15 -0500, Brian Halligan wrote: > ... It works for the Beastie Boys as well. Especially ironic in their case, since they started out by releasing juvenile prank phone calls ("Cookie Puss") and party anthems ("Fight For Your Right...") before becoming the Dalai Lama's hepcat spokesdudes. >Hey, now here's an idea. How about our favorite bands work to improve >mankind? Imagine the record sales! Well, Hawkwind (hey! how'd we get back on topic?) have been putting the address for Tibetan Freedom organizations on their albums for about as long as the Beastie Boys ... >Eric Bloom becomes a lobbyist for the raising of speed limits and >legalization of weed. (Ultimately getting arrested as "that weirdo loitering >around Jimmy Carter's house.") "Dear Mister Carter, me an' my friends, we wanna get HIGH! And we don't wanna have to go to jail for it ...". Well, at least one of his goals has been accomplished ... ... and K Henderson wrote: >I thought A Beautiful Mind >(one of about three movies I saw this past year) was worth the two hours >spent in the theatre and don't care whether John Nash really picked up young >men in the park as long as he wasn't hearing *their* confessions the next >afternoon. Yeah, imagine that! A "based on a true story" movie that takes major historical license with its material. We've never seen THAT happen before! Of course, the fact is that most scientific/mathematical geniuses are at best socially clueless & inept, and more often thorough raging assholes (and that amphetamine abuse among mathematicians seems to be nearly as prevalent as among bikers, bar owners, mechanics, truckers, and metal/punk rock musicians). (And as for the "picking up young men" thing, don't forget that the mathematician who won World War II for the Allies by breaking the Nazi's Enigma code, and laid the theoretical groundwork for modern computer algorithms as we know them, was also gay.) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Mar 21 22:20:29 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:20:29 -0500 Subject: new mission control stuff In-Reply-To: <000701c1d102$74440880$94180150@yourpnqspyopyu>; from nick.lee2@VIRGIN.NET on Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 06:01:39PM -0000 Message-ID: > Festivl weekend dates announced... I was afraid it'd come down to a choice between Hawkfest and Starwood! Well, I *might* be able to manage both, by missing the first day of Starwood. But what's the Foot & Mouth situation these days? Seeing as they're both going to be in rural areas and all... Poo. (No Fernando; just poo.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Thu Mar 21 23:00:16 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:00:16 -0600 Subject: OFF: More seen on Ebay, Stoner Rock Message-ID: I heard yesterday that orange goblin are touring the US. They have date booked in Minneapolis already. > marketplace? Orange Goblin has Coup de Grace out, the Heads have a new one > (out yet?), and the LA groups are still greatly active (Nebula, Fu Manchu, From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Mar 21 22:23:23 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:23:23 -0500 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: <200203212116.QAA00115@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 03:55:42PM -0500, K Henderson wrote: => >Which just goes to show that no matter what one does, someone will => >manage to see bad in it. Hooray for curmudgeons everywhere! => ^^^ => => You misspelled self-aggrandizing. You appear to know a lot about Bono to be able to discern his personal motives for doing what he does. Are you a closet Bono stalker? ;-) => >BTW, I didn't realise the Oscars were mandatory viewing. Is this some => >case of "we control the horizontal; we control the vertical" going on => >here that I don't know about? => => Yes. I guess you didn't watch 60 Minutes this past Sunday, where Story 1 => was about John Nash and the Beautiful Mind movie (nominated for 2 zillion => Oscars) and Story 3 was about Dame Judi Dench, nominated as best actress for => a movie that nobody has apparently seen, 'cause it really hasn't even been => widely-released yet. It's ridiculous - you *can't* avoid it, without I guess your TV has only one channel and no off button. If I don't want to see Oscar coverage I simply turn it off. It's a pretty simple, yet very effective strategy. => the ratings boost for their own show....but then of course, with the way => corporations are ever-increasingly tied together, it wouldn't surprise me if => CBS and the studios that made these two movies both were under one => even-larger multi-media enterprise and so the whole network of CBS is used => as a marketing tool. I forget who owns who these days....another day, => another merger. Well, I think you're onto something there. I remember seeing a really interesting PBS documentary about "the movie business" and how the whole machine is increasingly being integrated into one vertical market in which the same large corporations own the newspapers/ magazines/TV shows that review/shill for the movies the studios make, (owned by that corporation) which then end up on TV and video, sold/broadcast via the same corporate outlets (not to mention merchandised out the wazoo, too). There was also an interesting explanation as to why action movies and simplistic plots are becoming ever more popular: the foreign (non-US) market is now such a significant gross of total revenue for a film that it becomes an important consideration when making a film. Action movies with simple plots are very easy to subtitle and have non-English speakers follow what's going on, and so "play well" overseas. (I guess blowing things up/gunning down bad guys is considered a kind of universal language.) The documentary really made me appreciate the steady diet of independent/limited run films we get at The Lyric here in downtown Blacksburg! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 22 00:56:35 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:56:35 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: When Uncle sam and his team of scientists can clean up the mess here on Earth and keep it sweet - then I'll be more interested in moving on to Mars and other planets etc. Otherwise the human race would be little more than an advanced parasite, moving from planet to planet, rather than Earths most advanced "intelligence." If we can device the power to destroy a planet sure on the flip side we have the power to make it better a million fold. ------------------ >>>Hawkwind and Uncle Sam team up to send humans to the >>>Red Planet From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 22 01:13:46 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 01:13:46 EST Subject: new mission control stuff Message-ID: Me too - now just awaiting the word so I can book the required ticketing >>>>Excellent - booked 19-22 Jul off work! From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Mar 22 00:57:23 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:57:23 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: LoL!!!!!!! >>>>>>>>Eric Bloom becomes a lobbyist for the raising of speed limits and legalization of weed. (Ultimately getting arrested as "that weirdo loitering around Jimmy Carter's house.") From iainferguson at AOL.COM Thu Mar 21 06:46:37 2002 From: iainferguson at AOL.COM (iain ferguson) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:46:37 +0000 Subject: HW: Passport? Message-ID: Rich, follow the links on the web page..... all is explained man. Regards Iain R.A.Williams at OPEN.AC.UK wrote: >I was just looking on the official HW page and they're doing a "3 day long >private event in Devon in either early June or late July !!! The weekend >will be for PASSPORT HOLDERS ONLY". Can someone let me know what the >passport thing is all about??? > >Rich. > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 22 02:29:06 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:29:06 -0000 Subject: new mission control stuff Message-ID: > of Starwood. But what's the Foot & Mouth situation these days? > Seeing as they're both going to be in rural areas and all... > Pretty much cleared up now and not really an issue as far as travel & tourism go, at least. Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 22 09:41:13 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:41:13 GMT Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: Brian Halligan's message of Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:42:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: M Holmes Subject: Re: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List In-Reply-To: Brian Halligan's message of Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:42:15 -0500 Reply-To: M.Holmes at ed.ac.uk Cc: Brian Halligan writes: > Hey, now here's an idea. How about our favorite bands work to improve > mankind? Imagine the record sales! > > Hawkwind and Uncle Sam team up to send humans to the Red Planet. As a matter of fact I had been wondering about the details of sponsoring the latest "Looking For Life" project to Mars. This is the "Beagle" project (www.beagle2.com) being organised by a slightly eccentric British academic. He's raising funds through village fairs and sponsorship. What's interesting is that the landing method will be by inflatable balloons which will cushion the crash landing and then deflate (used by NASA on the Mars Pathfinder mission). The team are selling logo space on these balloons. Now that they know where the water is on Mars, there's a reasonable chance that they will find some ecvidence of life, and perhaps life. Whatever happens, once Mars is colonised, we can be reasonably sure the various bits of Beagle will be collected up and put into a museum on Mars for posterity. This is the point that got me to thinking that what should definitely be on it is a Hawkwind logo with "Looking For Life" on it. So how would folks feel, if we approached the team as fellow eccentrics and asked how much it would cost to get a logo on the balloons, and, if it were reasonable, trying to raise the cash. maybe the band could be persuaded to distribute Beagle info at gigs. It is after all a pretty good cause... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 22 09:46:40 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:46:40 GMT Subject: video tech stuff Message-ID: I was planning to get the space ritual clips from "When Rock Ruled the World" into a computer file for later messing about in a video editor programme. I know next to nothing about all this and would appreciate a quick primer from those (Paul?) who know this stuff. So what's the best way to get from a VHS recording of a PAL programme into a computer file for later editing and matching to music? I know there's stuff like MPEG, BMP and AVI files, so what are these? There was also some computer video format before DVD. The Hawkwind Black Sword video was put out on this on a CD. What was that? The recording proggie also has stuff about frame rates etc. What's the best choices for these? Is TV 24 frames per second or something? Any help appreciated. What I'd hope to do is to use the Silver Machine and Brainstorm from the Brian Matthews disc and link the music to the ToTP video clips and also Top ten Rock and WRRtW. Ta in advance FoFP From Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM Fri Mar 22 10:45:30 2002 From: Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:45:30 -0700 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: Unfortunately all the fanatics only care about their particular obsessions and don't give a hairy rat's ass about the planet itself. Laura Waesche Corporate Express Document & Print Management 1721 Moon Lake Blvd., Suite 305 Hoffman Estates, IL 60194 888-252-1526 laura.waesche at cexp.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:57 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... When Uncle sam and his team of scientists can clean up the mess here on Earth and keep it sweet - then I'll be more interested in moving on to Mars and other planets etc. Otherwise the human race would be little more than an advanced parasite, moving from planet to planet, rather than Earths most advanced "intelligence." If we can device the power to destroy a planet sure on the flip side we have the power to make it better a million fold. ------------------ >>>Hawkwind and Uncle Sam team up to send humans to the >>>Red Planet From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Mar 22 11:03:16 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:03:16 -0500 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: Doug offered... >Of course, the fact is that most scientific/mathematical geniuses are at best >socially clueless & inept, and more often thorough raging assholes (and that >amphetamine abuse among mathematicians seems to be nearly as prevalent as among >bikers, bar owners, mechanics, truckers, and metal/punk rock musicians). (And as for >the "picking up young men" thing, don't forget that the mathematician who won World >War II for the Allies by breaking the Nazi's Enigma code, and laid the theoretical >groundwork for modern computer algorithms as we know them, was also gay.) And committed suicide because (IIRC) of his shame about being dismissed by his own gov't from active duty and forced to take medication to try to 'correct' his condition. (I think that's right.) Not that our own gov't didn't do such similar things, but you'd think since his superiors were about the only people who knew that Turing was greatly responsible for winning the war, that they'd give the poor guy a break! Grakkl (FAA), who doesn't really know anything about Bono's motivations or his level of knowledge and understanding of certain injustices around the world and who's also not particularly up-to-speed with all the doings in the popular entertainment or political realms, but still has the urge to hum John Lodge's "I'm Just a Singer in a Rock and Roll Band" when he does show up on my TV or computer screen. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Mar 22 11:35:51 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:35:51 GMT Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: Laura Waesche's message of Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:45:30 -0700 Message-ID: > From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM] > When Uncle sam and his team of scientists can clean up the mess here on > Earth and keep it sweet - then I'll be more interested in moving on to Mars > and other planets etc. Otherwise the human race would be little more than > an advanced parasite, moving from planet to planet, rather than Earths most > advanced "intelligence." With that attitude, we'd all still be tidying our caves. > If we can device the power to destroy a planet sure on the flip side we have > the power to make it better a million fold. It's pretty easy to break an egg. Have you ever tried to lay one though? Laura Waesche writes: > Unfortunately all the fanatics only care about their particular obsessions > and don't give a hairy rat's ass about the planet itself. But, but, that's why we have bunnyhuggers. FoFP From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Mon Mar 18 14:44:50 2002 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:44:50 -0500 Subject: Free Pair of NEARfest Tickets Message-ID: Hi, folks: Yes, the header, 'Free Pair of NEARfest Tickets,' was designed to get your attention. But that would really be cruel if I was just making it up. And I'm not that cruel. As it so happens, I do have an extra pair of tickets I won't be able to use. While I could easily recoup my money by selling them, I've decided it would be much more fun to simply GIVE THEM AWAY!!! Yup! I'm going to give them away - FREE!!! Before I get into details, here's a reminder of who will be performing at NEARfest 2002: Steve Hackett (England) Nektar (USA and England) (with Larry Fast, yet!) Caravan (England) echolyn (USA) Isildurs Bane (Sweden) Enchant (USA) Gerard (Japan) Miriodor (Canada) Spaced Out (Canada) La Torre dell'Alchimista (Italy) And let us not forget a special appearance by artist Roger Dean! 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Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 21 13:13:58 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:13:58 -0000 Subject: HW: Star Nation Message-ID: For those that want it right here and right now, the Star Nation CD album is now in stock at CDS Towers - feel free to e.mail me as you wish. Public Service Announcement.......... Andy G. deadearnest at btopenworld.com agcdser at aol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: HW: Star Nation e-mail > Hi, > the e-mail address for Star Nation is starnation1 at aol.com so you can write > directly to it. > > cheers, > Alisa From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Fri Mar 22 16:09:41 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:09:41 -0000 Subject: OFF:AM I Losing My Mind Message-ID: Hello der boc-l, Am I losing my mind or are you playing tricks on me? I have not received any mail from you for several days but I can see lots of new posts on the online archive. Please sir, I miss my dose of Hawkwind and (sort of) related.Talk to me before I exit into the Slough of Despaire. Mark From mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM Fri Mar 22 19:05:40 2002 From: mlicht at CYBERMESA.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:05:40 -0700 Subject: AM I Losing My Mind In-Reply-To: <000f01c1d1e5$e342b400$50667ad5@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Hello Mark, et. al. First boc-l message received in a week. We're still here on the outside looking in, but that does not discount the possibility that you are losing your mind :-) another Mark -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Mark Von Bargen Subject: OFF:AM I Losing My Mind Hello der boc-l, Am I losing my mind or are you playing tricks on me? I have not received any mail from you for several days but I can see lots of new posts on the online archive. Please sir, I miss my dose of Hawkwind and (sort of) related.Talk to me before I exit into the Slough of Despaire. Mark From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Mar 22 19:28:01 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:28:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Lemmy's six-string Message-ID: Hey Keith, On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 18:49:31 -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >Yes, Lemmy played the Hopf on Greasy Truckers and on the later Silver >Machine video, there are quite a few pics around of this - if you want one, >email me off list. In fact, he'd been in the band quite a while by the >time of Greasy Truckers. ... yeah, almost six months (not sure why I was thinking more like 2 or 3 months - maybe because Simon King had been in the band for less than a week at the time). >The Rickenbacker 4000 is pictured on Space Ritual and in just about every >other Hawk-photo of Lemmy - its red on the cover (this was before the >paint job), Hmmm ... I still can't tell what color it is from the cover (at least the "Flying is trying is dying" panel) ... too washed-out from the lightshow. I can only tell that it's *some* color (as opposed to white or natural). >with two pickups - the second one has been added - you can >tell if you look at the position of the four knobs, the alignment >isn't the same formation as on a standard 4001. !! Damn !! You are correct! I had no idea. Actually, the formation of the knobs is still the same as a standard 4001/4001s (vaguely trapezoidal) and I stared at that for quite a while before figuring out what the difference was - it's that the alignment of the trapezoid is completely different (on a standard 4001/4001s, the top side of the trapezoid is parallel to the top edge of the pick guard, under the bridge pickup, but on Lemmy's, the trapezoid is essentially perpendicular to the top edge of the pick guard, as if rotated 90 degrees). The non-standard (Gibson) neck pickup is a bit more obvious. >Regarding the Gibson, he alternated between this and the Ricky on the later >1974 and '75 tours - apparently he liked the sound of the pick-ups. He liked the sound enough to put one on his 4000! (Although 70s- manufactured Thunderbirds used a different pickup than 60s-manufactured ones.) Thanks for the info ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Mar 22 19:51:52 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:51:52 +0800 Subject: OFF: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD UPCOMING EUROPEAN DATES! Message-ID: You lucky, lucky...I'd live in Europe if it wasn't so bloody cold!!! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Strange Trips" To: Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:24 AM Subject: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD UPCOMING EUROPEAN DATES! > Hello Folks! > > Strange Trips is pleased to announce the following limited European dates for Mr. Quimby's Beard and The Solar Fire Lightshow. We will be > visiting Holland, The Hague, Denmark, and Germany from April 20 to May 5th. We hope to have more dates in place soon, so keep your eyes on: > http://www.Strange-Trips.com for further information and any last minute updates. > > So far it's: > > 20.04.02 - Copenhagen, Denmark - Stengade 30 > 30.04.02 - Berlin, Germany - RAW Tempel > 04.05.02 - Aschaffenburg, Germany - Eclipsed Fest > 05.05.02 - Verviers, Belgium - Spirit of '66 > > Catch MQB on the Radio! > 29.04.02 - The Psychedelicatessen - The Hague - Radio Tonka 104.7 @ 2200 hrs > Date/Time TBA - Radio Heemskerk - Amsterdam - 105.5 Cable or 107.4 Ether > > Watch http://www.Strang-Trips.com for more Euro gigs to be announced soon! > > England 2002 > 22.06.02 - Blackpool, England - Sonic Rock Solstice > 28-30.06.02- Glastonbury Festival - TBC > 19-21.07.02 - The Mighty Hawkwind Festival > "Earth Passport Holders Only" > > MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD > "Mr. Quimby's Beard are one of the fastest rising bands in the British independent music scene. Their multi-media stage show and powerful live > presentation recall the glory days of such great bands as Pink Floyd, and the even more esoteric Hawkwind, while adding a modern sound to this > style of music making it uniquely their own. Along with other cutting edge UK bands like Ozric Tentacles, Porcupine Tree, Bedouin, and Spacehead, they are destined to make their mark in the neo psych-rock community. Mr. Quimby's Beard constantly presses the outer limits while > they drag the traditional cosmic psychedelia screaming and kicking into the 21st century. This is a band that's not to be missed". > > Hailing from Sunderland in the north of England, Mr. Quimby's Beard has quickly commanded a great deal of attention as the next in line of great British psychedelic artists continuing in the > long admired tradition of Hawkwind, Here 'n' Now, and the Ozric Tentacles in the UK. With three excellent Space Rock albums already in the bank, we can only expect yet greater works of wonder in the future from these relative newcomers to > the psychedelic multi-verse. Their debut CD "Out > There" appeared in 1995 on the Demi Monde label. Since then have continued on with the dynamic family of psychedelic artists at Stone Premonitions right through to their latest release "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of Mr. Quimby's Beard". MQB releases feature copious amounts of swirly electronics from keyboardist Hardy amidst a mesmerizing amalgam of cosmic lock groove anthems, reggae beats, and blazing guitar > leads. It's a tried-and-true recipe that the five > have now taken to another realm. The "SD 2001 Shrouded in Mystery American Tour" will feature the first performances of Mr. Quimby's Beard on American soil....and we're in for a real treat! For more info on MQB please visit: > http://www.btinternet.com/~freakyfungi/ > > Mr. Quimby's music has often been described as a combination of dark and dreamy Pink Floyd with the psychedelic high energy jams of the Ozric > Tentacles and Hawkwind's extremely spacey and repetitive riffs. But even with these obvious musical influences, they still manage to hammer out a unique place of their very own in this dark and psychedelic musical universe. Those who see them live immediately embrace their music which > has resulted in the beginnings of a world wide following. > > Supported by ex-Hawkwind members Harvey Bainbridge & Nik Turner, they recently completed their first American tour and headlined STRANGE DAZE - America's premier SpaceRock event. Upon > returning to the UK, Mr. Quimby's Beard were invited to join Hawkwind at their 2nd Annual Christmas Party gig held in London at The Forum on December 20th and are slated to open for the Ozric Tentacles in their home town of Sunderland, England on March 18, 2002. > > Mr. Quimby's Beard (along with America's Strange Trips and The Solar Fire Lightshow) is presently arranging a European Tour which should include Norway, Denmark, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc. around April and May of 2002. > > See you Out There. > > Space out! > > Jim Lascko > > For more Info on who we are and what we do: > http://www.Strange-Trips.com > > ******************************** > > The Recent Adventures of Mr. Quimby's Beard > > 2001 US TOUR > 19/10 - Milwaukee, WI - (Thai Joes) w/ Harvey Bainbridge > 21/10 - Columbus, OH - (Little Brothers) w/ Harvey Bainbridge & Quarkspace > 23/10 - Chicago, IL - (JJ. Kelly's) w/ Harvey Bainbridge & Nik Turner > 27/10 - Cleveland, OH - (Beachland Ballroom) - Headliners Strange Daze Festival > 30/10 - Cullman, AL (Civic Centre) w/ Harvey Bainbridge, Nik Turner, Rwake > 3/11 - St. Petersburg, FL. (State Theatre) w/ Harvey Bainbridge, Nik Turner & Tzamp > 6/11 - Atlanta GA. (9 Lives Saloon) w/ Harvey Bainbridge, Nik Turner & Spaceseed > > 20/12/01 - London - (The Forum) - supporting Hawkwind at their 2001 Xmas Party > 18/03/02 - Sunderland - (Manor Quay) - supporting Ozric Tentacles > > > > *********************************** > > > Mr. Quimby's Beard Biography > > Founding band members Kidd, Ray, and Hardy have worked together in many musical guises off and on since 1983. In '91 they started what was initially a "recording only" project using the > new name of "Mr. Quimby's Beard", producing 4 > albums worth of material during the next two years. > > In 1993, Kidd joined the spacerock band "Afresco Mantis" as a flute player. At the time Alfresco Mantis was looking for a supporting act and it was suggested that MQB play a gig with them. So > Hardy, Ray and Kidd decided to take the project > to the next logical step and, taking them up on the offer, they became a actual live band. > > Asking fellow Sunderland musicians Gaz and Eddy Barrow to join them in their new venture, MQB's first line up was in place by 1993. With Ray on guitar/vocals, Kidd on bass/vocals, Hardy on > keyboards/synths/vocals/FX, with Eddie Barrow > on guitars and Gaz on drums they performed live as MQB for the first time 6 weeks later. The line up stayed this way until 1994, when Eddie Barrow decided to leave the band amicably for various > personal reasons. MQB spent the next three months as a 4 piece outfit. > > It was around this time that MQB and Stone Premonitions linked up when Tim Jones and Terri B. put an advertisement in a local music news letter in '94 looking for space/psych bands to > promote. MQB sent a demo to them, but never really > expected a reply. Fortunately for MQB, Tim & Terri loved it for what it was and had the foresight to see that the band had a lot of potential if they could only be allowed an opportunity to record in a proper studio. Conversely, after MQB met with Tim and Terri, there was no doubt in their minds that Stone Premonitions and Mr. Quimby's Beard were made for each other! > > It was as a four piece during this time that they recorded their first album subsequently released as a cassette by Stone Premonitions. Shortly after this release Dave (Thrash Bastard) Thorburn > joined them on guitar, playing a few live gigs > with MQB and appearing on the CD "Out There". Davey "Bongos" Johnson also guested during the summer of '94 at Gaz's request to add extra percussion. He too played a few live gigs > with MQB and you can hear his recorded bongo > tracks on the song "Snake Dance" from the CD "Out There". > > In November of '94, after several labels showed some interest, Mr. Quimby's Beard signed to Demi-Monde who released their album "Out There" on CD in 1997. MQB's track "Traveling", taken from the "Out There" album, was also featured > alongside the likes of Amon Duul II, The Groundhogs, and Mother Gong on the Demi-Monde compilation CD release "Welcome to the World of...". > > After not showing up for a gig in December of '94, Dave Thorburn was asked to more fully commit to the band or leave and MQB had to make the difficult decision for him in January of '95 > when he didn't show up once again. Spencer Arkley > (guitar) replaced Dave and played live with MQB from spring '95 until the summer '96. Spencer was a great guitarist and entertainer, but the intense non-musical differences between Spencer and Gaz in the summer of '96 proved to be just too much for Ray and Hardy.They decided to call the present incarnation of MQB quits, but with the > idea of starting it up again in the future. > > Hardy went back into the studio near the end of '97 and started working on a follow up to his solo album "The Light" which was recorded after > the completion of "Out There". As Ray & Kidd became more and more involved in the project, it was decided to reunite with Gaz to make this the 3rd Mr. Quimby's Beard release and to also have Tim Jones (guitar/narration) & Terri B. (backing vocals) as guests on this album. > > MQB had actually recorded their first two albums with Tim as engineer before anyone even knew he played lead guitar! On finding this out MQB persuaded Tim to play on the album and he really > did a great job! That's also Tim's voice that > you hear on "A Glimmer Of Hope". Unfortunately, Tim & Terri have never played live with MQB because their involvement in other projects like "The Rabbits Hat", "A Body Full Of Stars", and "Census Of Hallucinations" were already taking up all their time. > > Then, after almost 3 years in the making, the year 2000 saw the release of MQB's 3rd album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of....". The album received much critical acclaim from both > the music press and the public and the first pressing was completely sold out within 6 months of it's debut. > > After having moved away a few years earlier to become a school teacher, Jim Walton (guitarist and a founding member of Afresco Mantis) returned > to the NE area of England in 1999. MQB were looking for a guitarist at the time so they asked > Jim to join MQB, which he did. > > Soon after, Gaz left the band in mid rehearsal because of musical differences and then dropped out of sight. It was Gaz's leaving that paved the way for Jim's brother Chris Walton (drums) to > join MQB. Chris was also a founding member of > Afresco Mantis, and unlike brother Jim, he is still with them today. At the moment he's a valued member of both bands and a very talented artist who's responsible for the "Out There" inner > sleeve and the artwork on "The Light". > > Stone Premonitions is still a cooperatively run independent underground music label based in the North East of England. Started in 1993 by Tim Jones, Terri B, and Steve Ellis, it has grown > into one of the finest psychedelic labels in the UK today! Bands on the label include: The Rabbits Hat, Census Of Hallucinations, Krom Lek, and Spacehopper to name but a few. > > Freaky Fungi was started in 1999 as the spacerock branch of the Stone Premonitions label to help cope with the ever increasing work load of Tim & Terri. It's ran by MQB band members Hardy, Kidd, & Ray. Freaky Fungi bands include Mr. Quimby's Beard, Afresco Mantis and Hardy. > > Releases: > > Mr. Quimby's Beard - "Mr. Quimby's Beard" (FFCDR001) > Originally a Stone Premonitions cassette release 1994 > Available on CDR from Freaky Fungi > Hardy - keyboards/synths/FX/voice > Kidd - bass > Ray - guitars/vocals > Gaz - drums > > *************** > > Mr. Quimby's Beard - "Out There" - (DMCD1035) > Released on Demi-Monde 1997 > Hardy- keyboards/synths/FX/voice > Kidd - bass > Ray - guitars/vocals > Gaz - drums > Dave Thorburn - guitars > Guest Davey Johnson - bongos > > *************** > Mr. Quimby's Beard - "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of...." > (SPCD014) > Freaky Fungi/Stone Premonitions 2000 > Hardy- keyboards/synths/fx/voice > Kidd - bass > Ray - guitars/vocals > Gaz - drums > Guest Tim Jones - guitar/narration > Guest Terri B - backing vocals > > Full Color Tour Poster @ > http://www.strange-trips.com/docs/MQBET700.jpg > > To be removed from further mailouts visit: > http://www.strange-trips.com/mail.htm > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To be removed from this mailing list > click on the link below > http://www.strange-trips.com/cgi-bin/mail.cgi?freeaqua at iinet.net.au > > > > From des at SUPERLINK.NET Fri Mar 22 23:25:31 2002 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:25:31 -0500 Subject: video tech stuff Message-ID: It's not all that complicated to do. Here's the short of it: Go to http://www.vcdhelper.com/ here you will find a wealth of faqs and advice as well as links to some excellent free software for doing what you are looking to do. I have been transfering some home video stuff to VCD. What I use is the Hauppauge WinTV PCI card for capture, which I got on E-bay for $23 plus shipping. The capture software I use is Virtual Dub which is free. This save out as an AVI file which I then convert to MPEG with TMPGenc which is also free. A note on the AVI side; download the Huffy compression codec. The AVI takes up a lot of space and this codec compresses nicely and with virtually no loss. The editing can be a little doggier than the capturing and MPEGing. Virtual Dub is supposed to do this very well, but Ihave never had the patience to learn it. Instead I bought MGI Video Wave (under $100) to do that stuff. Ulead Video Studio 4.0 works well too, and is probably a better editor. I think it's in the same price as the MGI. Enjoy! --Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: video tech stuff > I was planning to get the space ritual clips from "When Rock Ruled the > World" into a computer file for later messing about in a video editor > programme. > > I know next to nothing about all this and would appreciate a quick > primer from those (Paul?) who know this stuff. > > So what's the best way to get from a VHS recording of a PAL programme > into a computer file for later editing and matching to music? > > I know there's stuff like MPEG, BMP and AVI files, so what are these? There > was also some computer video format before DVD. The Hawkwind Black Sword > video was put out on this on a CD. What was that? > > The recording proggie also has stuff about frame rates etc. What's the > best choices for these? Is TV 24 frames per second or something? > > Any help appreciated. What I'd hope to do is to use the Silver Machine > and Brainstorm from the Brian Matthews disc and link the music to the > ToTP video clips and also Top ten Rock and WRRtW. > > Ta in advance > > FoFP > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 00:00:46 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:00:46 EST Subject: video tech stuff Message-ID: I believe a firewire card is required to get the vid to the computer. and im sure the card would have some sort of software for editing etc..... ------------- So what's the best way to get from a VHS recording of a PAL programme into a computer file for later editing and matching to music? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 00:35:22 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 00:35:22 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Uncle sams hairy bum Message-ID: >>>Unfortunately all the fanatics only care about their >>>particular obsessions >>>and don't give a hairy rat's ass about the planet >>>itself. ------------------- It is in our nature to destroy ourselves one way or another. Mars will eventually end up like earth - unless there is an extrordinary turn around in consciousness - and another move will be reuired untill we eventually run into another species out there who thinks we taste positivly delicous and has us as an entree. At least the Christians etc will get a bit of a giggle at the athiests. ATHIEST: " ...oh god, I swear I'll never eat another steak if you just get me out of this one purlease!!!!!" NON-ATHIESTS: "tee heee heee." From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 01:31:35 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:31:35 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: Lay an egg - no.... but I have had much practice in the things required to fertilise human eggs so that someone else can what would the point be in colonising Mars and other planets? I'm always open to new and creative thoughts/ideas. So I am open to changing my mind on my own opinions. If it is to create a newer and better place to live I cannot see that realistically happening without a radical change in our consciousness - we (the human race) would simply be taking all our old ways of thinking to a new place. Sure it would be exciting for a while - but then human nature would take over and it would be the same old boring "MaRs......" whinge whinge... How many times have I marvelled at another sunrise, or the beauty in the cloud formations - a landscape - animals - only to get replies such as - "its only a tree, haven't you ever seen a tree before?" or crosseyed, head cocked to the side like a confused cockerspaniel over why I think a cloud formation holds such beauty...... Perhaps thats all part of this dimension of duality - to never be happy with what is abundantly beautiful and marvelous - more more more - thrill my soul I know Im guilty on some counts >>>It's pretty easy to break an egg. Have you ever >>>tried to lay one though? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 01:35:12 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:35:12 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: > When Uncle sam and his team of scientists can clean up the mess here on > Earth and keep it sweet - then I'll be more interested in moving on to Mars > and other planets etc. Otherwise the human race would be little more than > an advanced parasite, moving from planet to planet, rather than Earths most > advanced "intelligence." >>>With that attitude, we'd all still be tidying our >>>caves. Maybe - maybe not - I think we need to learn how to walk on earth before we learn how to hop planets and make a mess of them. From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 02:05:15 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:05:15 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: I still marvel at the fact that there are human footprints on the moon...and still can't decide if i think it's "Right" or not. Our trash is floating all over our little corner of space; we've left what can only be called garbage on the lunar surface, with no plans to remove it; and there's a golf ball up there too... I'm not sugesting that we shouldnt have gone there, just that perhaps if we DO, we ought to clean up after ourselves. Is the mindset "it doesn't belong to anyone, so we dont have to police it"; or more likely from a US standpoint, "its ours and we'll clean it when we get around to it". we all know what that means. can't help feeling that, though these particular areas aren't populated (as far as we know), we're going to do the 'evil white european male'/manifest destiny thing and take (and pollute) as much as we can...because we can. beam me up, scotty bobm From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Mar 23 03:16:11 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:16:11 +1100 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: This Leslie dead thing scared hell out of me. Think I will play my 7 minutes 33 second live Nantucket Sleighride (my favourite version). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:32 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Mountain in Europe > Amazing dedication - to continue touring for the fans after death - My admiration has increased ten fold > > Niche!!!!! > > ---------------------- > Really, I`ll have to tell him. Myself and friends saw 4 shows on the UK tour > last week and spent time with the band(Leslie, Corky Laing and Richie > Scarlet) backstage and at their hotel. He was looking damned good for a > dead guy! In fact he even signed my CD! > > It`s Felix that`s dead, not Leslie. :) > From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Mar 23 03:20:06 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:20:06 +1100 Subject: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD UPCOMING EUROPEAN DATES! Message-ID: No Vegemite Bill - as in Bill the person not Bill as in legislation. Europe should pass a Vegemite Bill making it mandatory. Marmite should only be available for Tories in the House Of Lords to use as lubrication. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Cynthia" To: Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: OFF: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD UPCOMING EUROPEAN DATES! > You lucky, lucky...I'd live in Europe if it wasn't so bloody cold!!! > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Strange Trips" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:24 AM > Subject: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD UPCOMING EUROPEAN DATES! > > > > Hello Folks! > > > > Strange Trips is pleased to announce the following limited European dates > for Mr. Quimby's Beard and The Solar Fire Lightshow. We will be > > visiting Holland, The Hague, Denmark, and Germany from April 20 to May > 5th. We hope to have more dates in place soon, so keep your eyes on: > > http://www.Strange-Trips.com for further information and any last minute > updates. > > > > So far it's: > > > > 20.04.02 - Copenhagen, Denmark - Stengade 30 > > 30.04.02 - Berlin, Germany - RAW Tempel > > 04.05.02 - Aschaffenburg, Germany - Eclipsed Fest > > 05.05.02 - Verviers, Belgium - Spirit of '66 > > > > Catch MQB on the Radio! > > 29.04.02 - The Psychedelicatessen - The Hague - Radio Tonka 104.7 @ 2200 > hrs > > Date/Time TBA - Radio Heemskerk - Amsterdam - 105.5 Cable or 107.4 Ether > > > > Watch http://www.Strang-Trips.com for more Euro gigs to be announced > soon! > > > > England 2002 > > 22.06.02 - Blackpool, England - Sonic Rock Solstice > > 28-30.06.02- Glastonbury Festival - TBC > > 19-21.07.02 - The Mighty Hawkwind Festival > > "Earth Passport Holders Only" > > > > MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD > > "Mr. Quimby's Beard are one of the fastest rising bands in the British > independent music scene. Their multi-media stage show and powerful live > > presentation recall the glory days of such great bands as Pink Floyd, and > the even more esoteric Hawkwind, while adding a modern sound to this > > style of music making it uniquely their own. Along with other cutting edge > UK bands like Ozric Tentacles, Porcupine Tree, Bedouin, and Spacehead, they > are destined to make their mark in the neo psych-rock community. Mr. > Quimby's Beard constantly presses the outer limits while > > they drag the traditional cosmic psychedelia screaming and kicking into > the 21st century. This is a band that's not to be missed". > > > > Hailing from Sunderland in the north of England, Mr. Quimby's Beard has > quickly commanded a great deal of attention as the next in line of great > British psychedelic artists continuing in the > > long admired tradition of Hawkwind, Here 'n' Now, and the Ozric Tentacles > in the UK. With three excellent Space Rock albums already in the bank, we > can only expect yet greater works of wonder in the future from these > relative newcomers to > > the psychedelic multi-verse. Their debut CD "Out > > There" appeared in 1995 on the Demi Monde label. Since then have continued > on with the dynamic family of psychedelic artists at Stone Premonitions > right through to their latest release "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of > Mr. Quimby's Beard". MQB releases feature copious amounts of swirly > electronics from keyboardist Hardy amidst a mesmerizing amalgam of cosmic > lock groove anthems, reggae beats, and blazing guitar > > leads. It's a tried-and-true recipe that the five > > have now taken to another realm. The "SD 2001 Shrouded in Mystery American > Tour" will feature the first performances of Mr. Quimby's Beard on American > soil....and we're in for a real treat! For more info on MQB please visit: > > http://www.btinternet.com/~freakyfungi/ > > > > Mr. Quimby's music has often been described as a combination of dark and > dreamy Pink Floyd with the psychedelic high energy jams of the Ozric > > Tentacles and Hawkwind's extremely spacey and repetitive riffs. But even > with these obvious musical influences, they still manage to hammer out a > unique place of their very own in this dark and psychedelic musical > universe. Those who see them live immediately embrace their music which > > has resulted in the beginnings of a world wide following. > > > > Supported by ex-Hawkwind members Harvey Bainbridge & Nik Turner, they > recently completed their first American tour and headlined STRANGE DAZE - > America's premier SpaceRock event. Upon > > returning to the UK, Mr. Quimby's Beard were invited to join Hawkwind at > their 2nd Annual Christmas Party gig held in London at The Forum on December > 20th and are slated to open for the Ozric Tentacles in their home town of > Sunderland, England on March 18, 2002. > > > > Mr. Quimby's Beard (along with America's Strange Trips and The Solar Fire > Lightshow) is presently arranging a European Tour which should include > Norway, Denmark, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc. around April and May of > 2002. > > > > See you Out There. > > > > Space out! > > > > Jim Lascko > > > > For more Info on who we are and what we do: > > http://www.Strange-Trips.com > > > > ******************************** > > > > The Recent Adventures of Mr. Quimby's Beard > > > > 2001 US TOUR > > 19/10 - Milwaukee, WI - (Thai Joes) w/ Harvey Bainbridge > > 21/10 - Columbus, OH - (Little Brothers) w/ Harvey Bainbridge & Quarkspace > > 23/10 - Chicago, IL - (JJ. Kelly's) w/ Harvey Bainbridge & Nik Turner > > 27/10 - Cleveland, OH - (Beachland Ballroom) - Headliners Strange Daze > Festival > > 30/10 - Cullman, AL (Civic Centre) w/ Harvey Bainbridge, Nik Turner, > Rwake > > 3/11 - St. Petersburg, FL. (State Theatre) w/ Harvey Bainbridge, Nik > Turner & Tzamp > > 6/11 - Atlanta GA. (9 Lives Saloon) w/ Harvey Bainbridge, Nik Turner & > Spaceseed > > > > 20/12/01 - London - (The Forum) - supporting Hawkwind at their 2001 Xmas > Party > > 18/03/02 - Sunderland - (Manor Quay) - supporting Ozric Tentacles > > > > > > > > *********************************** > > > > > > Mr. Quimby's Beard Biography > > > > Founding band members Kidd, Ray, and Hardy have worked together in many > musical guises off and on since 1983. In '91 they started what was initially > a "recording only" project using the > > new name of "Mr. Quimby's Beard", producing 4 > > albums worth of material during the next two years. > > > > In 1993, Kidd joined the spacerock band "Afresco Mantis" as a flute > player. At the time Alfresco Mantis was looking for a supporting act and it > was suggested that MQB play a gig with them. So > > Hardy, Ray and Kidd decided to take the project > > to the next logical step and, taking them up on the offer, they became a > actual live band. > > > > Asking fellow Sunderland musicians Gaz and Eddy Barrow to join them in > their new venture, MQB's first line up was in place by 1993. With Ray on > guitar/vocals, Kidd on bass/vocals, Hardy on > > keyboards/synths/vocals/FX, with Eddie Barrow > > on guitars and Gaz on drums they performed live as MQB for the first time > 6 weeks later. The line up stayed this way until 1994, when Eddie Barrow > decided to leave the band amicably for various > > personal reasons. MQB spent the next three months as a 4 piece outfit. > > > > It was around this time that MQB and Stone Premonitions linked up when Tim > Jones and Terri B. put an advertisement in a local music news letter in '94 > looking for space/psych bands to > > promote. MQB sent a demo to them, but never really > > expected a reply. Fortunately for MQB, Tim & Terri loved it for what it > was and had the foresight to see that the band had a lot of potential if > they could only be allowed an opportunity to record in a proper studio. > Conversely, after MQB met with Tim and Terri, there was no doubt in their > minds that Stone Premonitions and Mr. Quimby's Beard were made for each > other! > > > > It was as a four piece during this time that they recorded their first > album subsequently released as a cassette by Stone Premonitions. Shortly > after this release Dave (Thrash Bastard) Thorburn > > joined them on guitar, playing a few live gigs > > with MQB and appearing on the CD "Out There". Davey "Bongos" Johnson also > guested during the summer of '94 at Gaz's request to add extra percussion. > He too played a few live gigs > > with MQB and you can hear his recorded bongo > > tracks on the song "Snake Dance" from the CD "Out There". > > > > In November of '94, after several labels showed some interest, Mr. > Quimby's Beard signed to Demi-Monde who released their album "Out There" on > CD in 1997. MQB's track "Traveling", taken from the "Out There" album, was > also featured > > alongside the likes of Amon Duul II, The Groundhogs, and Mother Gong on > the Demi-Monde compilation CD release "Welcome to the World of...". > > > > After not showing up for a gig in December of '94, Dave Thorburn was asked > to more fully commit to the band or leave and MQB had to make the difficult > decision for him in January of '95 > > when he didn't show up once again. Spencer Arkley > > (guitar) replaced Dave and played live with MQB from spring '95 until the > summer '96. Spencer was a great guitarist and entertainer, but the intense > non-musical differences between Spencer and Gaz in the summer of '96 proved > to be just too much for Ray and Hardy.They decided to call the present > incarnation of MQB quits, but with the > > idea of starting it up again in the future. > > > > Hardy went back into the studio near the end of '97 and started working on > a follow up to his solo album "The Light" which was recorded after > > the completion of "Out There". As Ray & Kidd became more and more involved > in the project, it was decided to reunite with Gaz to make this the 3rd Mr. > Quimby's Beard release and to also have Tim Jones (guitar/narration) & Terri > B. (backing vocals) as guests on this album. > > > > MQB had actually recorded their first two albums with Tim as engineer > before anyone even knew he played lead guitar! On finding this out MQB > persuaded Tim to play on the album and he really > > did a great job! That's also Tim's voice that > > you hear on "A Glimmer Of Hope". Unfortunately, Tim & Terri have never > played live with MQB because their involvement in other projects like "The > Rabbits Hat", "A Body Full Of Stars", and "Census Of Hallucinations" were > already taking up all their time. > > > > Then, after almost 3 years in the making, the year 2000 saw the release of > MQB's 3rd album "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of....". The album > received much critical acclaim from both > > the music press and the public and the first pressing was completely sold > out within 6 months of it's debut. > > > > After having moved away a few years earlier to become a school teacher, > Jim Walton (guitarist and a founding member of Afresco Mantis) returned > > to the NE area of England in 1999. MQB were looking for a guitarist at > the time so they asked > > Jim to join MQB, which he did. > > > > Soon after, Gaz left the band in mid rehearsal because of musical > differences and then dropped out of sight. It was Gaz's leaving that paved > the way for Jim's brother Chris Walton (drums) to > > join MQB. Chris was also a founding member of > > Afresco Mantis, and unlike brother Jim, he is still with them today. At > the moment he's a valued member of both bands and a very talented artist > who's responsible for the "Out There" inner > > sleeve and the artwork on "The Light". > > > > Stone Premonitions is still a cooperatively run independent underground > music label based in the North East of England. Started in 1993 by Tim > Jones, Terri B, and Steve Ellis, it has grown > > into one of the finest psychedelic labels in the UK today! Bands on the > label include: The Rabbits Hat, Census Of Hallucinations, Krom Lek, and > Spacehopper to name but a few. > > > > Freaky Fungi was started in 1999 as the spacerock branch of the Stone > Premonitions label to help cope with the ever increasing work load of Tim & > Terri. It's ran by MQB band members Hardy, Kidd, & Ray. Freaky Fungi bands > include Mr. Quimby's Beard, Afresco Mantis and Hardy. > > > > Releases: > > > > Mr. Quimby's Beard - "Mr. Quimby's Beard" (FFCDR001) > > Originally a Stone Premonitions cassette release 1994 > > Available on CDR from Freaky Fungi > > Hardy - keyboards/synths/FX/voice > > Kidd - bass > > Ray - guitars/vocals > > Gaz - drums > > > > *************** > > > > Mr. Quimby's Beard - "Out There" - (DMCD1035) > > Released on Demi-Monde 1997 > > Hardy- keyboards/synths/FX/voice > > Kidd - bass > > Ray - guitars/vocals > > Gaz - drums > > Dave Thorburn - guitars > > Guest Davey Johnson - bongos > > > > *************** > > Mr. Quimby's Beard - "The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries Of...." > > (SPCD014) > > Freaky Fungi/Stone Premonitions 2000 > > Hardy- keyboards/synths/fx/voice > > Kidd - bass > > Ray - guitars/vocals > > Gaz - drums > > Guest Tim Jones - guitar/narration > > Guest Terri B - backing vocals > > > > Full Color Tour Poster @ > > http://www.strange-trips.com/docs/MQBET700.jpg > > > > To be removed from further mailouts visit: > > http://www.strange-trips.com/mail.htm > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To be removed from this mailing list > > click on the link below > > http://www.strange-trips.com/cgi-bin/mail.cgi?freeaqua at iinet.net.au > > > > > > > > > From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Mar 23 03:27:07 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:27:07 +1100 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Uncle sams hairy bum Message-ID: Not many christians on this planet really. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:35 PM Subject: Re: TOTALLY OFF: Uncle sams hairy bum > >>>Unfortunately all the fanatics only care about their >>>particular obsessions > >>>and don't give a hairy rat's ass about the planet >>>itself. > ------------------- > > It is in our nature to destroy ourselves one way or another. Mars will eventually end up like earth - unless there is an extrordinary turn around in consciousness - and another move will be reuired untill we eventually run into another species out there who thinks we taste positivly delicous and has us as an entree. At least the Christians etc will get a bit of a giggle at the athiests. > ATHIEST: " ...oh god, I swear I'll never eat another steak if you just get me out of this one purlease!!!!!" > NON-ATHIESTS: "tee heee heee." > From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Mar 23 03:49:50 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:49:50 +1100 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: Never really seen an egg that turned me on that much. Perhaps after a long romantic evening. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: Re: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... > Lay an egg - no.... but I have had much practice in the things required to fertilise human eggs so that someone else can > > what would the point be in colonising Mars and other planets? I'm always open to new and creative thoughts/ideas. So I am open to changing my mind on my own opinions. > > If it is to create a newer and better place to live I cannot see that realistically happening without a radical change in our consciousness - we (the human race) would simply be taking all our old ways of thinking to a new place. Sure it would be exciting for a while - but then human nature would take over and it would be the same old boring "MaRs......" whinge whinge... > How many times have I marvelled at another sunrise, or the beauty in the cloud formations - a landscape - animals - only to get replies such as - "its only a tree, haven't you ever seen a tree before?" > or crosseyed, head cocked to the side like a confused cockerspaniel over why I think a cloud formation holds such beauty...... > Perhaps thats all part of this dimension of duality - to never be happy with what is abundantly beautiful and marvelous - more more more - thrill my soul > I know Im guilty on some counts > > >>>It's pretty easy to break an egg. Have you ever >>>tried to lay one though? > From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Mar 23 04:03:22 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 20:03:22 +1100 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: Who mentioned stopping. I intend blasting along flatout guzzling pangalactic gargleblasters with Space Ritual louder than Disaster Area ever played while swapping banter with co hydroblasternaut Lemmy. We aint stoppin for nothin'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: Re: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... > > When Uncle sam and his team of scientists can clean up the mess here on > > Earth and keep it sweet - then I'll be more interested in moving on to Mars > > and other planets etc. Otherwise the human race would be little more than > > an advanced parasite, moving from planet to planet, rather than Earths most > > advanced "intelligence." > > >>>With that attitude, we'd all still be tidying our >>>caves. > > Maybe - maybe not - I think we need to learn how to walk on earth before we learn how to hop planets and make a mess of them. > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 05:15:34 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:15:34 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: I spose one redeeming point would be that at least they peed and poopied in their boots while they were there teehee >>>can't help feeling that, though these particular areas aren't populated (as far as we know), we're going to do the 'evil white european male'/manifest destiny thing and take (and pollute) as much as we can...because we can. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 05:17:46 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:17:46 EST Subject: MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD UPCOMING EUROPEAN DATES! Message-ID: I believe they are allready using it to keep their wigs glued on >>>No Vegemite Bill - as in Bill the person not Bill as in legislation. Europe should pass a Vegemite Bill making it mandatory. Marmite should only be available for Tories in the House Of Lords to use as lubrication. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 05:26:33 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:26:33 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Uncle sams hairy bum Message-ID: Many who would like to think they are tho - but not many that measure up >>>>>Not many christians on this planet really. From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Mar 21 17:52:29 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 17:52:29 -0500 Subject: TEST Message-ID: Hello...is anybody out there?(just nod if you can hear me...) tim (or is it just quiet??) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 05:56:52 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:56:52 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: you're a kinky guy - spose it'd be a cheap date though.... >>>>>Never really seen an egg that turned me on that >>>much. Perhaps after a long >>>romantic evening. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 06:08:00 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:08:00 EST Subject: TEST Message-ID: Yooooooo!!!!!!!!! Nodding head - hopping up n down on one leg only wearing me boxer shorts with melting ice cream cone perched atop me head - waving all six arms frantically... >>>>Hello...is anybody out there?(just nod if you can hear me...) tim (or is it just quiet??) From jessica.swart at STUDENT.UVA.NL Sat Mar 23 06:16:58 2002 From: jessica.swart at STUDENT.UVA.NL (Donald en Jessica) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:16:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Bono, HW and Tibet (was: Re: TOTALLY OFF: Who died...) Message-ID: If Bono can influence the higher politics to make living on this planet al little better for all, why then I can't find the logo of the Tibet Support Group anymore on Hawkwind releases??? Donald From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sat Mar 23 09:31:26 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 09:31:26 -0500 Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: I don't remember where I read this, but I thought he wasn't there because he hasn't played in years. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: Re: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock > I saw some pics of Simon King at the rehearsals for the 2001 hawkestra. I recall some time back a mention that he might not have played at the 2000 Hawkestra because he was concerned about appearance change over the years. (could be false rumour for all I know - but thats what I read) but if that is the reason - forget that SIMON!! the years have been kind to you - I hope they are as kind to me. > > Mikale > > -------------------- > I think I saw him at the ICU Xmas gig, too. I double-took several > times but eventually decided he wasn't tall enough, or old enough, or > quite the same round the face. But the resemblance was enough to cause me > some disconcertment (if that's a word). Yours, > Jon From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Mar 23 09:34:18 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:34:18 -0000 Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: That pretty much as I'd read, wherever it was. I seem to remember that he didn't consider himself to be 'stage-fit' anymore. Where are these pics from the Greasy Truckers rehearsals then? Nick > I don't remember where I read this, but I thought he wasn't there because he > hasn't played in years. Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock > > > > I saw some pics of Simon King at the rehearsals for the 2001 hawkestra. I > recall some time back a mention that he might not have played at the 2000 > Hawkestra because he was concerned about appearance change over the years. > (could be false rumour for all I know - but thats what I read) but if that > is the reason - forget that SIMON!! the years have been kind to you - I > hope they are as kind to me. > > > > Mikale > > > > -------------------- > > I think I saw him at the ICU Xmas gig, too. I double-took several > > times but eventually decided he wasn't tall enough, or old enough, or > > quite the same round the face. But the resemblance was enough to cause me > > some disconcertment (if that's a word). Yours, > > Jon From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 11:33:17 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:33:17 EST Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: I was told he was at the 2000 hawkestra (backstage) - didn't play for both those reasons.... Of course not all info and rumour that circulates around web mail lists is true or correct so the first bit that I heard could well be bollocks.... Bruce >>>>I don't remember where I read this, but I thought he wasn't there because he hasn't played in years. Cheers STEPHE From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Mar 23 14:30:49 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 14:30:49 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/16 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck 3/16 (toon inn tonight for more of the same, 5pm PST, 8pm EST, 1am GMT, etc) 1.Igra Staklenih Perli-- excerpt from "Soft Explosion" 2.Shalabi Effect-- "Mr. Titz " (Trial of St-Orange; Alien8) 3.Bablicon-- "Sitcom Bucktown" (The Orange Tapered Moon; Misra) 4.Ventures-- "Twilight Zone" (Ventures in Space; Pickwick) 5.ST 37-- "Surfin' with the Shah" (Derobe split-LP; RRR) 6.Nishinihon-- "Super Station" (ST'd) 7.Liquid Sound Company-- "Swallow" (Exploring the Psychedelic; Brainticket) 8.High Tide-- "Death Warmed Up" (Sea Shanties; Liberty) 9.Silver Apples-- "Swamp Noodle" (The Garden; Whirlybird) (Enter Mizzen and "space-funk acid-soul"... :) 10.Malcolm Mooney and the 10th Planet-- "The Eagle Has Landed" (ST'd) 11.Can-- "19th Century Man" (Delay 1968; Spoon/Mute) 12.Funkadelic-- "I Wanna Know if It's Good to You?" (Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow; Westbound) 13.Can-- "Butterfly" (1968 Delay) 14.Chrome-- "Kinky Lover" (The Visitation; Dossier) 15.Funkadelic-- title-track (Free Your Mind...) 16.Residents-- "I'll Go Crazy" (American Composer Series: George and James) 17.Silver Apples-- "Mustang Sally" (The Garden) 18.Vas Deferens Org/Electric Co-- "Snappy Smarm" (More Pelvis Wick...; Tekito) 19.Organization-- "Milkrock" (Tone Float; Germanofon) 20.Buddy Miles Express-- "Wrap it Up" (Electric Church) 21.Spacehead-- "Upside Jam/Aero Pharaohs" (In Space We Trust; Dead Earnest) 22.Guild Navigators-- "Space Ark" (Phase 1: '91-97; Amblifier ) 23.Hawklords-- "Spirit of the Age" (Hawklords Live; Griffin) 24.Pink and Brown-- live at the Smell, L.A. 25.SDNC/Audio Alchemy Collage (feat. Timothy Leary, Spirits Burning, East Village Other and Mizzen on clarinet and squawks) 26.Mazinga Phaser-- "Afflux II" (Dissatisfied Customers of Hallucinations; MM Idol) thanks, Chuck From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Mar 24 05:58:41 2002 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:58:41 -0000 Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: Simon definitely was not at the 2000 Hawkestra either backstage or at rehearsals. He is no longer in the music business and did not want to be involved. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman To: Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: Re: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock > I was told he was at the 2000 hawkestra (backstage) - didn't play > for both those reasons.... > Of course not all info and rumour that circulates around web mail lists is true or correct so the first bit that I heard could well be bollocks.... > > Bruce > > >>>>I don't remember where I read this, but I thought he wasn't there because he > hasn't played in years. Cheers STEPHE > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 24 06:21:36 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 05:21:36 -0600 Subject: HW: Andy Dunkley Message-ID: Just Out of Interest, did anyone ever find out what happened to Andy Dunkley? Just had my memory jogged by the Greasy Truckers Bootleg CD :-) Rich W From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Sun Mar 24 08:35:00 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:35:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Andy Dunkley Message-ID: Hi ya, I don't know. I don't remember him being mentioned at last years event. What cd are you talking of? The original or last years? I have Greasy Truckers Party (the one with Gong, Camel, Henry Cow etc.) and I have the second album only of Greasy Truckers Live (got given it because I'm a Hawk freak but the first slab of vynal and the cover were withheld because the person did not want to give me anything of any possible value, at the time and still to this day I'm grateful to the geezer though). So if anyone would put the first slab of vynal on cd for me I'd be very greatful, the two minuite silence always brings back weird memories! Also is there a recording of the entire Hawkwind performance? Also is there a recording of ICU and Mann at last years bash floating about? Chris Rich Warren wrote: > > Just Out of Interest, did anyone ever find out what happened to Andy Dunkley? Just had my memory jogged by the Greasy Truckers Bootleg CD :-) > > Rich W -- "Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?" "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat -- Lewis Carrol From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Sun Mar 24 09:01:04 2002 From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:01:04 -0000 Subject: HW on mars Message-ID: This certainly appeals to me. Mike w > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: 22 March 2002 14:41 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... > > As a matter of fact I had been wondering about the details of > sponsoring the latest "Looking For Life" project to Mars. > > This is the "Beagle" project (www.beagle2.com) being organised by a > slightly eccentric British academic. He's raising funds > through village fairs and sponsorship. > > What's interesting is that the landing method will be by inflatable > balloons which will cushion the crash landing and then > deflate (used by > NASA on the Mars Pathfinder mission). The team are selling > logo space on these balloons. > > Now that they know where the water is on Mars, there's a reasonable > chance that they will find some ecvidence of life, and perhaps life. > Whatever happens, once Mars is colonised, we can be > reasonably sure the > various bits of Beagle will be collected up and put into a museum on > Mars for posterity. > > This is the point that got me to thinking that what should > definitely be on it is a Hawkwind logo with "Looking For Life" on it. > > So how would folks feel, if we approached the team as fellow > eccentrics and asked how much it would cost to get a logo on the > balloons, and, if > it were reasonable, trying to raise the cash. maybe the band could be > persuaded to distribute Beagle info at gigs. It is after all a pretty > good cause... > > FoFP > Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Mar 24 09:10:50 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 08:10:50 -0600 Subject: HW: Andy Dunkley Message-ID: The original Greasy Truckers LP/CD. Andy has a pre powercut compering moment. He also narrates some material with Stacia on the intro to the Radio 1 In Concert from the early 70s. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gibbs" To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 7:35 AM Subject: Re: HW: Andy Dunkley > Hi ya, > > I don't know. I don't remember him being mentioned at last years event. > > What cd are you talking of? The original or last years? > I have Greasy Truckers Party > (the one with Gong, Camel, Henry Cow etc.) and I have the second album > only of Greasy Truckers Live (got given it because I'm a Hawk freak but > the first slab of vynal and the cover were withheld because the person > did not want to give me anything of any possible value, at the time and > still to this day I'm grateful to the geezer though). > > So if anyone would put the first slab of vynal on cd for me I'd be very > greatful, the two minuite silence always brings back weird memories! > > Also is there a recording of the entire Hawkwind performance? > > Also is there a recording of ICU and Mann at last years bash floating > about? > > Chris > > Rich Warren wrote: > > > > Just Out of Interest, did anyone ever find out what happened to Andy Dunkley? Just had my memory jogged by the Greasy Truckers Bootleg CD :-) > > > > Rich W > > -- > "Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?" > > "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat > -- Lewis Carrol From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 24 09:11:42 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:11:42 EST Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: Thank you Kris. Most rumours turn out to be bollocks in the end. and in this case it turned out to be a pair ehhmm I mean two false rumours.... >>>>Simon definitely was not at the 2000 Hawkestra either backstage or at rehearsals. He is no longer in the music business and did not want to be involved. Kris From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 24 09:20:14 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 09:20:14 EST Subject: HW on mars Message-ID: I'll give my seal of approval to any mars missions as long as I can go. I'd like to set up the first recording studio on mars - I bet we'd get some HOT sounds happening. Call it Mars needs Guitars..... or sumtin >>>This certainly appeals to me. >>>Mike w From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sun Mar 24 11:21:27 2002 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:21:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/16 Message-ID: >8.High Tide-- "Death Warmed Up" (Sea Shanties; Liberty) ooh, such a goodie! need to dig up that vinyl copy... .joe From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Mar 24 13:38:02 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:38:02 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/16 Message-ID: In a message dated 3/24/02 8:21:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, joe.e at TELIA.COM writes: > >8.High Tide-- "Death Warmed Up" (Sea Shanties; Liberty) > > ooh, > such a goodie! > > need to dig up that vinyl copy... > .joe Cool, Joe. I was lucky to find a used CD-reissue w/both Shanties and the ST'd. That was a while ago...never listened to it much...now I'm glad I did! Wow--that guitar sound pre-dates the Sabs (or is at least contemporary). Chuck From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Mar 24 14:04:57 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:04:57 EST Subject: OFF: Acid Mothers Temple/ Europe Message-ID: Saw AMT last night in NYC...Awesome! Europe this week! Bill 2002/MARCH/MARCH/28th(thu.) Glasgow 13th NOTES (with Richard Youngs + Kawabata Makoto) *may move to 13th note cafe/check with venue... 2002/MARCH/29th(fri.) Belfast AUNTIE ANNIES 2002/MARCH/30th(sat.) Derry GWEEDORE BAR *this is an afternoon show for all ages 2002/MARCH/31th(sun.) Limerick DOLANS WAREHOUSE (with special guest The Jimmy Cake) 2002/APRIL 2002/APRIL/1st(mon.) Cork HALF MOON THEATER 2002/APRIL/2nd(tue.) Dublin venue WHELANS 2002/APRIL/3rd(wed.) Birmingham THE MEDICINE BAR (with The Heads) From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Mar 25 02:38:49 2002 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:38:49 -0000 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: Folks, I'm currently doing some research into the early days of Hawkwind..say from conception through to recording & release of the first album. Does anybody know the recording/studio dates for the first album & the official release date? If anybody has any interviews/article scans or photocopies, relating to this period, they'd be willing to share it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ian From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 25 05:43:00 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:43:00 GMT Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: Michael W Blackman's message of Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:31:35 EST Message-ID: Michael W Blackman writes: > what would the point be in colonising Mars and other planets? So as not to have all our eggs in one basket. Because there'll be beauty to see on Mars too. Because we're human and that's what we do. > If it is to create a newer and better place to live I cannot see that > realistically happening without a radical change in our consciousness I doubt there'll be any serious change in human conciousness until we upload. After that, the universe is the limit. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 25 05:47:20 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:47:20 GMT Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: Robert C. Mayo's message of Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:05:15 EST Message-ID: Robert C. Mayo writes: > I still marvel at the fact that there are human footprints on the > moon...and still can't decide if i think it's "Right" or not. Our > trash is floating all over our little corner of space Space is basically a radiation bath full of flying rocks. Adding a few pieces of metal to the mix is hardly any sort of problem. Admittedly sooner or later we'll have to clean up near Earth orbit so that our useful stuff doesn't get hit by pieces of defunct spacecraft, but there are already some ideas on how to do that. Giant lightsails would reflect enough light to ultimately slow down junk in orbit so that it burns up. > we've left what > can only be called garbage on the lunar surface, with no plans to > remove it; and there's a golf ball up there too... That ain't garbage. That's future museum exhibits. > I'm not sugesting that we shouldnt have gone there, just that perhaps > if we DO, we ought to clean up after ourselves. Is the mindset "it > doesn't belong to anyone, so we dont have to police it"; or more > likely from a US standpoint, "its ours and we'll clean it when we get > around to it". we all know what that means. Remind me again who's inconvenienced by there being a few pieces of tech on the Moon? > can't help feeling that, though these particular areas aren't > populated (as far as we know), we're going to do the 'evil white > european male'/manifest destiny thing and take (and pollute) as much > as we can...because we can. Space is already lethally irradiated. There's not any pollution we can offer that would make it any worse. FoFP From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 25 06:29:46 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 06:29:46 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: In a message dated 3/25/2002 5:47:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Remind me again who's inconvenienced by there being a few pieces of tech > on the Moon? > > no one is 'inconvenienced'; not what i was talking about at all. my mommy taught me to leave a place as i found it; it's about respect, i suppose. the moon and everything else out there is part of 'nature'. a remote, inpopulated part, sure. but does the fact that no one owns it; no one lives there, and no one is 'inconvenienced' by our junk mean it's 'right' for us to leave it there? it's not enough we' ugly-up the earth; let's ugly-up the moon too. after all, who cares? sorry, but that strikes me as typical earthling arrogance : ) bobm From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Mar 25 07:07:18 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:07:18 +0800 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: ....Giant lightsails... You're not a Larry Niven fan are you? Cheers Bill From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 25 07:06:30 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:06:30 GMT Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: Robert C. Mayo's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2002 06:29:46 EST Message-ID: Robert C. Mayo writes: > no one is 'inconvenienced'; not what i was talking about at all. > my mommy taught me to leave a place as i found it; it's about respect, i > suppose. > the moon and everything else out there is part of 'nature' As are artifacts made by humans. We're part of nature too. > a remote, > inpopulated part, sure. but does the fact that no one owns it; no one lives > there, and no one is 'inconvenienced' by our junk mean it's 'right' for us to > leave it there? Sure. We'll pick it up later when it's time for it to become part of the exhibit at Tycho. > it's not enough we' ugly-up the earth; let's ugly-up the moon > too. after all, who cares? Is it ugly if there's nobody there to see it? Don't get me wrong. I'd be very much against them floating a giant luminescent coke bottle in orbit. I want to see stars (and that's hard enough with all the light pollution in cities) rather than tacky advertising. Leaving a few LEM bases on the Moon until we move there permanently isn't that sort of order of problem. I'd be against dumping nuclear waste onto the Moon just to get it out of the way (the proper place for it is to drop it into the Sun, but deltavee capability doesn't permit that yet). since that would inconvenience future Lunies. > sorry, but that strikes me as typical earthling arrogance : ) I blame that first amphibian that walked up onto the beach. It was always going to be uphill from there. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Mar 25 07:11:31 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:11:31 GMT Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: Bill & Cynthia's message of Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:07:18 +0800 Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia writes: > M Holmes wrote: > ....Giant lightsails... > > You're not a Larry Niven fan are you? I've read a couple of his books. There was a paper at NASA a few years back showing how lightsails would be quite useful for clearing small pieces of debris (even a millimetre fleck of paint at 17000 MPH will put a hell of a dent in a spacesuit) of debris from orbit. The advantage being that it wouldn't take a Sputnik Stan using impossible amounts of fuel to go collect it all. Of course we haven't quite sorted out unrolling tethers in zerogee yet, but in principle large lightsails being used as mirrors doesn't present any serious technological problems. There#s a good chance we'll see solar sailing ships in our lifetimes although ion engines look like they may give them a run for their money. FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Mar 25 06:43:48 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:43:48 EDT Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe In-Reply-To: <00e601c1d242$fe576760$9e5a2dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: On 23 Mar 2002, at 19:16, Steven Skane wrote: > This Leslie dead thing scared hell out of me. Think I will play my 7 > minutes 33 second live Nantucket Sleighride (my favourite version). > Jeez, where'd you find a version that short? theo Long Live Leslie! From denis at D-RIDER.DE Mon Mar 25 08:09:32 2002 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:09:32 +0100 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... In-Reply-To: <200203251211.MAA08644@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Mike, hi BOC-L, >Of course we haven't quite sorted out unrolling tethers in zerogee yet, >but in principle large lightsails being used as mirrors doesn't present >any serious technological problems. There#s a good chance we'll see >solar sailing ships in our lifetimes although ion engines look like they >may give them a run for their money. Not long ago I saw a presentation by a guy from the DLR (something like the German NASA, but without the money *g*) who was working on a tech-demonstrator of a small solar sail spacecraft. They plan to launch it in the near future, if funding won't be cut. Their approach seemed very promising to me. But as someone who comes from the orbital mechanics side (currently working on the MarsExpress mission) I have to say that calculating and optimizing trajectories for solar sail spacecrafts is a pain in the a** compared to traditional chemical propulsion methods. But the same DLR-guy also told about some new computation models using neural networks which are superior to traditional methods. BTW, I agree with everything you said about the Apollo-trash, Mike. Nowadays everything will be undertaken to minimize the influence of Earth-made objects like probes on the environment of other celestial bodies. All Mars-probes for example are sterilized so that no contamination with germs &c. will take place. And I think the scientific results made possible with this missions justify the occasional piece of space-trash here and there. just my 0.02? (c)IAO D+R From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 25 09:11:24 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:11:24 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: Big wads of McDonalds styrofoam packaging - and those nasty little pickles that, judging by the McDonalds parking lot, get tossed out the window.... Horrifying thought that is..... Imagine a shower of sliced pickle hurtling towards YOUR atmosphere........ :-p >>>>>Space is already lethally irradiated. There's not >>>any pollution we can >>offer that would make it any worse. From ben at TMK.COM Mon Mar 25 09:18:39 2002 From: ben at TMK.COM (Ben Cohen) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:18:39 -0500 Subject: ADMIN, OFF: Re: Who died... Message-ID: Folks, I'm going to be completely unreasonable here for a moment, and hopefully you'll understand why. Would it be possible for everyone to either stop this thread or change the subject line on it? I ask because I recently (~1 week ago) had a family tragedy [my mom passed away, semi-unexpectedly] and the text of the subject is getting disturbing for me. Thanks, Ben From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 25 09:27:29 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:27:29 EST Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: Blasphemerrrrrrr!!!! We aLL know that we (blokes) were created from a patch of dirt and that his bitch was created from one of that blokes ribs. Amphibians...Evolution...herecy I say!! So what if the whole thing sounds a bit like Alchemy or magic - we'll burn YOU at the stake if you try to make a bloke out of soil and his bitch outta his rib... AND!! anyone else who performs feats of any incredible mystical nature. Anyway...I've got backwards religions to convert and squash and books to burn..... Gotta go Ps - You can't go to Mars cause.... because.... ehhmmm'THE BIBLE SAYS SO!! ( I think ) <> Pope Bruce IV >>>>I blame that first amphibian that walked up onto >>>the beach. It was >>always going to be uphill from there. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 25 09:37:56 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:37:56 EST Subject: ADMIN, OFF: Re: Mars needs guitars Message-ID: Folks, I'm going to be completely unreasonable here for a moment, and hopefully you'll understand why. I hope this helps get the ball rolling in a new direction - at least as far as the subject line is concerned. I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Blessings to you and yours. Michael >>>Would it be possible for everyone to either stop >>>this thread or change the subject line on it? I ask because I recently (~1 week ago) had a family tragedy [my mom passed away, semi-unexpectedly] and the text of the subject isgetting disturbing for me. From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Mar 25 18:40:23 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 17:40:23 -0600 Subject: OFF: reality cannot be found Message-ID: http://www.cobrabay.freeserve.co.uk/more.html (...which is spawned from this "bid for the 2004 eastercon" site, and damn funny) http://www.cobrabay.freeserve.co.uk/concurrence.html Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Mar 25 18:48:38 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:48:38 +0000 Subject: OFF: the silver crucifix chrystal mass ecstacy explosion memorial ressurrection Message-ID: Salutations, The Hawkwind Electric Library can now be found by navigating from http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ ... 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Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Mar 25 20:07:35 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 20:07:35 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:38:49 -0000, Ian Abrahams wrote: >I'm currently doing some research into the early days of Hawkwind..say >from conception through to recording & release of the first album. Good luck! Make sure that your ultimate findings get posted here ... >Does anybody know the recording/studio dates for the first album & the >official release date? According to this website: http://www.nfos.de/01/0102.htm The first album was recorded during March & April of 1970. I can't imagine that the actual recording took more than a few days, especially since the entire middle part of the album ("The Reason Is?" / "Be Yourself" / "Paranoia" / "Seeing It As You Really Are") was really one song (the infamous "Sunshine Special"), and there are very few overdubs (Dave's & Nik's vocals, and Dick Taylor's guitar may be all of them?). And, according to Andrew Dawson's discography: http://www.adawson.clara.net/index.html The album was released in August, preceded by the "Hurry On Sundown" single in July (by which time John Harrison was no longer in the band). Of course, one of the problems with researching this stuff is that the memory of anyone who was actually there is wholly suspect due to all those chemicals whizzing around their brains at the time ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Mar 25 19:27:55 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:27:55 EST Subject: OFF: reality cannot be found Message-ID: Ahh, reality is overrated any how. Joe From chrisr at TIAC.NET Mon Mar 25 21:31:54 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:31:54 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates In-Reply-To: <200203260107.UAA27065@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In the Kris Tait book it says that it was cut in August 1970. In the David Watson - Born to Go book, it says the sessions were laid down in March and April, and the album was released in August. Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Doug Pearson Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 8:08 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:38:49 -0000, Ian Abrahams wrote: >I'm currently doing some research into the early days of Hawkwind..say >from conception through to recording & release of the first album. Good luck! Make sure that your ultimate findings get posted here ... >Does anybody know the recording/studio dates for the first album & the >official release date? According to this website: http://www.nfos.de/01/0102.htm The first album was recorded during March & April of 1970. I can't imagine that the actual recording took more than a few days, especially since the entire middle part of the album ("The Reason Is?" / "Be Yourself" / "Paranoia" / "Seeing It As You Really Are") was really one song (the infamous "Sunshine Special"), and there are very few overdubs (Dave's & Nik's vocals, and Dick Taylor's guitar may be all of them?). And, according to Andrew Dawson's discography: http://www.adawson.clara.net/index.html The album was released in August, preceded by the "Hurry On Sundown" single in July (by which time John Harrison was no longer in the band). Of course, one of the problems with researching this stuff is that the memory of anyone who was actually there is wholly suspect due to all those chemicals whizzing around their brains at the time ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Mar 25 18:20:37 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:20:37 +1100 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: Reminds me of an old Doctor Who episode. They used planets as the bouy's. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Regenbrecht" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Re: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Hi Mike, hi BOC-L, >Of course we haven't quite sorted out unrolling tethers in zerogee yet, >but in principle large lightsails being used as mirrors doesn't present >any serious technological problems. There#s a good chance we'll see >solar sailing ships in our lifetimes although ion engines look like they >may give them a run for their money. Not long ago I saw a presentation by a guy from the DLR (something like the German NASA, but without the money *g*) who was working on a tech-demonstrator of a small solar sail spacecraft. They plan to launch it in the near future, if funding won't be cut. Their approach seemed very promising to me. But as someone who comes from the orbital mechanics side (currently working on the MarsExpress mission) I have to say that calculating and optimizing trajectories for solar sail spacecrafts is a pain in the a** compared to traditional chemical propulsion methods. But the same DLR-guy also told about some new computation models using neural networks which are superior to traditional methods. BTW, I agree with everything you said about the Apollo-trash, Mike. Nowadays everything will be undertaken to minimize the influence of Earth-made objects like probes on the environment of other celestial bodies. All Mars-probes for example are sterilized so that no contamination with germs &c. will take place. And I think the scientific results made possible with this missions justify the occasional piece of space-trash here and there. just my 0.02? (c)IAO D+R From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Mar 25 18:25:18 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:25:18 +1100 Subject: ADMIN, OFF: Re: Change the heading Folks Message-ID: Understand. Sorry for upsetting you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Cohen" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:18 AM Subject: ADMIN, OFF: Re: Who died... > Folks, > > I'm going to be completely unreasonable here for a moment, and hopefully > you'll understand why. > > Would it be possible for everyone to either stop this thread or change the > subject line on it? I ask because I recently (~1 week ago) had a family > tragedy [my mom passed away, semi-unexpectedly] and the text of the subject is > getting disturbing for me. > > Thanks, > Ben > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Mar 26 04:10:14 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:10:14 -0000 Subject: TOTALLY OFF: Who died... Message-ID: > Not long ago I saw a presentation by a guy from the DLR (something like the > German NASA, but without the money *g*) who was working on a > tech-demonstrator of a small solar sail spacecraft. They plan to launch it > in the near future, if funding won't be cut. Their approach seemed very > promising to me. That's certainly a new approach for the Docklands Light Railway. Hopefully it'll cut the journey time from Stratford to Canada Water in half. :-) Cheers, Ric. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Mar 26 07:22:47 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 20:22:47 +0800 Subject: ADMIN, OFF: Re: Who died... Message-ID: Much respect for you and your family Sorry to hear of your loss Bill and Cynthia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Cohen" To: Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:18 PM Subject: ADMIN, OFF: Re: Who died... > Folks, > > I'm going to be completely unreasonable here for a moment, and hopefully > you'll understand why. > > Would it be possible for everyone to either stop this thread or change the > subject line on it? I ask because I recently (~1 week ago) had a family > tragedy [my mom passed away, semi-unexpectedly] and the text of the subject is > getting disturbing for me. > > Thanks, > Ben > From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Mar 25 18:18:29 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:18:29 +1100 Subject: OFF: Mountain in Europe Message-ID: I can send you the mpeg if you are on cable. I think it is Leslie rather than Mountain and he really means business. I withstood a 4 hour battering from Leslie last night while playing Civ 3 and after about 3 hours wimpy Felix songs were welcomed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Jackson" To: Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Mountain in Europe > On 23 Mar 2002, at 19:16, Steven Skane wrote: > > > This Leslie dead thing scared hell out of me. Think I will play my 7 > > minutes 33 second live Nantucket Sleighride (my favourite version). > > > Jeez, where'd you find a version that short? > > theo > > Long Live Leslie! > From micci at SCI.FI Tue Mar 26 10:06:41 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:06:41 +0200 Subject: HW:finnish tribute Message-ID: Hi! Our tribute night (15.3.2002) was absolutely fantastic. First band was new finnish band call Speedo. They first play couple they own song and I must say it?s was great psychedelia/space-rock, really fresh. Then they play classic HW songs, like; Urban Guerilla, Silver Machine, Interstellat Overdrive aka Brainstorm. Second band was Dark Sun. Here is song list (if I remember right :-)) 1. SONIC ATTACK (intro) 2. MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE 3. PSI POWER 4. MOTORWAY CITY 5. ASSAULT & BATTERY/GOLDEN VOID 6. HASSAN I SAHBA 7. MAGNU 8. D-RIDER 9. PSYCHEDELIC WARLORDS 10. ZAROZINIA 11. BRAINSTORM We record both sets. Our Association will be sell it, when it?s burned to cd-r, I hope. Watch http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Mar 26 10:06:39 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:06:39 -0600 Subject: HW: more Star One w/ Hawkwind Medley news at DPRP Message-ID: http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/news/ From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 26 10:54:15 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:54:15 EST Subject: OFF: reality cannot be found Message-ID: >>>>Ahh, reality is overrated any how. >>Joe You should have taken the blue pill :-p From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Mar 26 11:07:12 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 11:07:12 EST Subject: HW:finnish tribute Message-ID: Glad to hear you had a great night :-) >>>Our tribute night (15.3.2002) was absolutely fantastic. First band was new finnish band call Speedo. They first play couple they own song and I must say it?s was great psychedelia/space-rock, really fresh. Then they play classic HW songs, like; Urban Guerilla From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Mar 26 13:17:27 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:17:27 -0500 Subject: HW: more Star One w/ Hawkwind Medley news at DPRP Message-ID: ... I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but I saw another Ayreon CD in the store the other day, and noticed that one of the guest vocalists was boc-l's own Johan Edlundh! Good one, it's nice to see familiar names like that out there ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:06:39 -0600, Karen Kusic wrote: >http://www.dprp.vuurwerk.nl/news/ From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Mar 26 13:48:42 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:48:42 -0000 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: According to Huwie, Dick Taylor played only on Hurry On Sundown, the picked electric guitar sound. The story Huw tells is that Dick suggested the pattern, and Huw was too young and too in awe of him to try and do it any other way. The remainder of the solos on the album (including the beautiful Mirror of Illusion) were all Huw's. John Harrison was, according to Dave Brock, a lovely geezer who was not afraid of hard work. He used to organise lots of essential things like transport and rehearsals. He was somewhat concerned by the volume of drugs in the band, of which he wanted no part, and really that is why he left. More of a jazz player, and quite a competant one at that. Huw recalls turning up to a rehearsal one day and 'John just wasn't there anymore'. The story of Huw's (first) departure would fill a chapter in itself and is not really ideal for publication here. Keith Kniveton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 07:38:49 -0000, Ian Abrahams > wrote: > >I'm currently doing some research into the early days of Hawkwind..say > >from conception through to recording & release of the first album. > > Good luck! Make sure that your ultimate findings get posted here ... > > >Does anybody know the recording/studio dates for the first album & the > >official release date? > > According to this website: > http://www.nfos.de/01/0102.htm > The first album was recorded during March & April of 1970. I can't imagine > that the actual recording took more than a few days, especially since the > entire middle part of the album ("The Reason Is?" / "Be > Yourself" / "Paranoia" / "Seeing It As You Really Are") was really one song > (the infamous "Sunshine Special"), and there are very few overdubs (Dave's > & Nik's vocals, and Dick Taylor's guitar may be all of them?). > > And, according to Andrew Dawson's discography: > http://www.adawson.clara.net/index.html > The album was released in August, preceded by the "Hurry On Sundown" single > in July (by which time John Harrison was no longer in the band). > > Of course, one of the problems with researching this stuff is that the > memory of anyone who was actually there is wholly suspect due to all those > chemicals whizzing around their brains at the time ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Mar 26 14:24:02 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:24:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates In-Reply-To: <003d01c1d4f6$dad01d80$721028d5@lucidzoo>; from starfield@SUPANET.COM on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:48:42PM -0000 Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:48:42PM -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > John Harrison was, according to Dave Brock, a lovely geezer who was not > afraid of hard work. That's not M. John Harrison the SF author, is it? Same time frame, New Worlds published some of the latter's stuff, but... Here's Doug Smith's take on the All Saints Hall and its aftermath: http://www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/douglas.html As Dave Bottomley said of Mick Slattery's version, "the basic story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it." -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. - Anonymous From hw at CY-B.ORG Tue Mar 26 15:55:19 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:55:19 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: But does anyone else find it totally hilarious that Mick Slatterys version misses out Dave's input completely? hahahahhaha.... I laughed and laughed... brilliant. Rx <> >Here's Doug Smith's take on the All Saints Hall and its >aftermath: > http://www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/douglas.html >As Dave Bottomley said of Mick Slattery's version, "the basic >story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it." > >-- > >| | /\ >|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >| | / >"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! >I'll ask about Exchange Server next. > - Anonymous From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Mar 26 16:26:11 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:26:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 14:24:02 -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:48:42PM -0000, Captain Bl at ck wrote: >> John Harrison was, according to Dave Brock, a lovely geezer who was not >> afraid of hard work. > >That's not M. John Harrison the SF author, is it? Same time >frame, New Worlds published some of the latter's stuff, but... As I understand it, former Hawkwind member John Harrison is *still* MIA after all these years ... or has he re-appeared out of the woodwork? (Man! Gotta feel sorry for a guy who didn't like doing drugs winding up stuck in Hawkwind ... ) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Mar 26 17:38:03 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:38:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: 7% Solution CD to offer Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just came back from a trip to Used Kids today, where I picked up a used copy of 7% Solution's first CD entitled "All About Satellites and Spaceships" which is IMHO one of *the* classic US space rock albums, albeit of the more laidback and dreamy variety, i.e., on the side of shoegazing. It cost me $3 + $0.17 tax, and it'll cost me $1.26 + $0.40 mailer to post it, so the first person to offer me $5 for it, gets it. If you're overseas, prolly the equivalent of $6 (no jewel box) to claim it and some indication of how you expect to 'pay.' Trades considered. PayPal payments accepted. Grakkl (FAA) If nobody wants it, it goes to Ebay with all the other stuff I just put up there. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Mar 26 18:25:23 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:25:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: 7% Solution CD claimed Message-ID: Hi again... >Just came back from a trip to Used Kids today, where I picked up a used copy >of 7% Solution's first CD entitled "All About Satellites and Spaceships" >which is IMHO one of *the* classic US space rock albums, albeit of the more >laidback and dreamy variety, i.e., on the side of shoegazing. It cost me $3 >+ $0.17 tax, and it'll cost me $1.26 + $0.40 mailer to post it, so the first >person to offer me $5 for it, gets it. If you're overseas, prolly the >equivalent of $6 (no jewel box) to claim it and some indication of how you >expect to 'pay.' Trades considered. PayPal payments accepted. That didn't take long...sorry to those who (would have) come in (a combined) second. I'll make a mental note that there's people out there who might want this, and see if other copies show up around here. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. BTW, note to JJ: the two you were asking about got snagged long ago. Sorry I forgot to respond at the time. From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Tue Mar 26 19:25:20 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:25:20 -0000 Subject: OFF: 7% Solution CD Message-ID: sorry to put my retail hat on but we have one copy of this sittin on the shelf - but it is full price - if interested,do shout. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: Re: OFF: 7% Solution CD claimed > Hi again... > > >Just came back from a trip to Used Kids today, where I picked up a used copy > >of 7% Solution's first CD entitled "All About Satellites and Spaceships" > >which is IMHO one of *the* classic US space rock albums, albeit of the more > >laidback and dreamy variety, i.e., on the side of shoegazing. > That didn't take long...sorry to those who (would have) come in (a combined) > second. I'll make a mental note that there's people out there who might > want this, and see if other copies show up around here. > > Grakkl (FAA) > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Mar 26 16:41:41 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 21:41:41 -0000 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: > The story of Huw's (first) departure would fill a chapter in itself and is > not really ideal for publication here. > Oh, g'wan, g'wan, gwan, gwan! GO ON!!! (Mind you - it's been documented a few times before - it'd be interesting to hear another slant on it...) :-) Cheers, R. From ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET Wed Mar 27 09:29:18 2002 From: ejobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:29:18 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Couple_of_HW_cd=27s_at_=A35=2E99_on_101cd?= Message-ID: http://www.101cd.com/offers/campaign.asp?cpg=19&page=2&letter=H Anyone know any other source on the net for HW vinyl other than Ebay? Thanks, Eddie.Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ThruPoint, Inc. From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Wed Mar 27 13:14:28 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:14:28 -0600 Subject: OFF: S Rock Message-ID: Just saw this on the bottom web site. EMISSIONS FROM THE MONOLITH IV: FOURTH ANNUAL STONER ROCK FESTIVAL AT NYABINGHI IN YOUNGSTOWN, OH Memorial Day Weekend: Friday, 5/24 - Sunday, 5/26 Three Days, 35 Bands, featuring Orange Goblin, Spirit Caravan, Alabama Thunder Pussy, Bottom, Electric Frankenstein and more Youngstown, OH -- Festival producer Greg Barratt announced his fourth annual stoner rock festival, Emissions From The Monolith IV, today. The festival lasts three days over Memorial Day Weekend, from Friday, May 24th through Sunday, May 26th. The festival takes place at Nyabinghi, which is located in Youngstown, OH at 1229 Salt Springs Road, approximately one hour outside of Cleveland and an hour from Pittsburgh,PA. For more information contact: info at emissionsfromthemonolith.com From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Mar 27 15:35:45 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:35:45 -0500 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul, Kraan, Circle, The Mike Gunn, oh yes, some Hawkwind too Message-ID: Amon Duul II Follow-up to the Amon Duul II discussion from a few weeks back - I picked up the remastered Phallus Dei, much better sound than my Mantra CD version, but the 'Freak Out Requiem' bonus tracks turned out to be just side 4 of 'Dance of the Lemmings' with a little extra at the beginning and the end. Maybe this shouldn't have been a surprise - ADII 'bonus' tracks are usually not. All the bonus tracks on 'Utopia' are mis-titled album tracks, the bonus track on 'Live in London' is just the album version of Soap Shop Rock mixed with some ambient synths, and elsewhere 'Cerberus' (album version) and 'Between the Eyes' seem to pop up with some regularity. Never mind, regular ADII album tracks from the early 70s are among the best ever created. Speaking of 'Dance of the Lemmings', picked up the remaster of that as well. No bonus tracks, but again much better sound than the Mantra release, especially on sides 1 and 2, plus legible credits and full track indexing. Very sweet. Also got the BBC Radio disc. It's not nearly as bad as I'd feared, even has a few really good bits. But its still nothing close to 'Live in London'. It's hard to believe that apparently less than 6 months (Dec 72 for 'Live', spring 73 for BBC) and only one band member (Lothar Meid is the only one of the 7 musicians from 'Live' not playing on the BBC disc) separate the 2 releases. Leaving aside relative musical merit, I found it almost like comparing 'Space Ritual' and 'Atomehenge 76' in terms of sound/presentation. And finally found that the only bits from 'Kobe Reconstructions' that do not appear on regular albums do appear on the 'Eternal Flashback' release. Kraan Got the reissued/remastered CD of their debut S/T album - found it includes 'demo' versions of most of the songs, increasing the length by about two thirds. The demo tracks sound very clean, and this is quite a good album, easily their best IMHO and one that may appeal to some listmembers out there. Still don't like Peter Wolbrandt's vocals though. Circle Just released: Circle - Raunio - live. Yet another amazing piece of work from this band, once again managing to sound unlike anything they've done before while still being almost instantly recognizable and doing tracks off previous releases as well as brand new stuff. This time round I think the sound is very Faust-ian (90's), and the title track(s) are very eerie. Spooky and intense stuff. Get it from Richard at www.cranium.co.nz and possibly other places too. I hear Circle is already recording a new one. Also coming soon, a double CD of Ektroverde. Internet Visit www.aquariusrecords.org and plug Hawkwind into the search engine - it's great to see when someone gets 'turned on' to HW, I envy him the joy he is feeling! Nice to read such enthusiasm, takes me back to my own discovery of the band. The Mike Gunn After a heads-up from Keith and a recommendation from Doug, nabbed this off Ebay and listened to it for the first time yesterday. Very nice. Incidentally, if you do the Hawkwind search on the Aquarius Records site you will notice that they have a kind word for the Assassins of Silence release, put out by someone called Doug Pearson, (also on Sternklang I), which happens to contain the only track from The Mike Gunn that I had previously heard, a fairly straightforward rendition of Master of the Universe. Stephan ...We are all.. From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Wed Mar 27 15:31:18 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:31:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Giant Inflatable Egos of Pop-Stars Hover Over Our Heads... Message-ID: ... and they make us less than happy; they make us LESS than happy... >TOTALLY OFF: Who died and made Bono the Emperor of the friggin' universe?! > ... snipped, you know what it said ... > >Excuse me while I go induce vomiting into the nearest sink. Pop-culture celebrities getting involved in real-world issues can indeed be vomit-inducing (take Barbara Striesand - no really, please, take her away) but I'm tempted to give Bono a pass since numbered among his lower profile deeds was apparently support for Horslips in their legal fight to regain control of their back-catalog - the threat of the kind of money he could bring to bear apparently had a major part in the decision by the record company that had (questionable) legal ownership of the music to return the rights. Resulting in the excellent remasters that came out in 2000/2001 on the Edsel label. In the larger scheme of things, this ain't up there with getting the godless Communists out of Tibet, but it ain't too shabby and at least it was realistically achievable. Stephan > Grakkl (FAA), who doesn't really know anything about Bono's > motivations or his level of knowledge and understanding of > certain injustices around the world and who's also not > particularly up-to-speed with all the doings in the popular > entertainment or political realms, but still has the urge to > hum John Lodge's "I'm Just a Singer in a Rock and Roll Band" > when he does show up on my TV or computer screen. ----> Lucifer's Friend - (I'm Just A) Rock N' Roll Singer <---- Which also features the immortal lyrics - 'Hey, hey-ayea-yeah! Hey, hey-ayea-yeah! Hoo na na na na na na-na NA! Hoo na na na na na na-na NA! Rockin' an rollin' yeah!' From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Mar 27 16:06:04 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:06:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: The Giant Inflatable Egos of Pop-Stars Hover Over Our Heads... Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 15:31:18 -0500, Stephan Forstner wrote: >but I'm tempted to give Bono a pass since numbered among his lower profile >deeds was apparently support for Horslips in their legal fight to regain >control of their back-catalog - the threat of the kind of money he could >bring to bear apparently had a major part in the decision by the record >company that had (questionable) legal ownership of the music to return the >rights. Resulting in the excellent remasters that came out in 2000/2001 on >the Edsel label ... ... and I'll also give Phil Collins (yes, THAT Phil Collins) and Peter Grant (deceased Led Zep manager) a pass for the exact same reason (well, The Action [pre-Mighty Baby, hence a HW connection since Mighty Baby were one of the bands on the 'Glastonbury Fayre' triple LP set] and The Pretty Things, respectively, rather than the Horslips). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 27 17:41:27 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:41:27 -0000 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: More from the x-Hawkwind historical revisionist camp. What next, airbrushing Dave out of early band shots? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Rik Rx To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 26 March 2002 20:57 Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates >But does anyone else find it totally hilarious that Mick Slatterys >version misses out Dave's input completely? hahahahhaha.... >I laughed and laughed... brilliant. > >Rx > ><> >>Here's Doug Smith's take on the All Saints Hall and its >>aftermath: >> http://www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/douglas.html >>As Dave Bottomley said of Mick Slattery's version, "the basic >>story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it." >> >>-- >> >>| | /\ >>|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >>| | / >>"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! >>I'll ask about Exchange Server next. >> - Anonymous > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 27 17:42:13 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:42:13 -0000 Subject: BOC: Glasgow Message-ID: Anyone going to the gig in May? Dave From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Mar 27 17:05:43 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:05:43 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: Well thats not very nice. I thought they invited Dave and he didn't want to come. You can't change history. STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave hall" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > More from the x-Hawkwind historical revisionist camp. What next, airbrushing > Dave out of early band shots? > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Rik Rx > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 26 March 2002 20:57 > Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > > > >But does anyone else find it totally hilarious that Mick Slatterys > >version misses out Dave's input completely? hahahahhaha.... > >I laughed and laughed... brilliant. > > > >Rx > > > ><> > >>Here's Doug Smith's take on the All Saints Hall and its > >>aftermath: > >> http://www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/douglas.html > >>As Dave Bottomley said of Mick Slattery's version, "the basic > >>story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it." > >> > >>-- > >> > >>| | /\ > >>|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > >>| | / > >>"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! > >>I'll ask about Exchange Server next. > >> - Anonymous > > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Mar 27 19:33:24 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:33:24 -0000 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: Not nice, perhaps. But true. This x-Hawkwind stuff may be a nice nostalgia trip for the guys in the band. Fine. But to dress it up as somehow maintaining "the spirit of Hawkwind" is dross, especially when they try to flog a lot of extremely dodgy live material of rehashed HW tunes. It's a bit like Pete Best reforming the Beatles. Dave -----Original Message----- From: stephen lindas To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 27 March 2002 22:11 Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates >Well thats not very nice. I thought they invited Dave and he didn't want to >come. You can't change history. STEPHE >----- Original Message ----- >From: "dave hall" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:41 PM >Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > > >> More from the x-Hawkwind historical revisionist camp. What next, >airbrushing >> Dave out of early band shots? >> >> Dave >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rik Rx >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Date: 26 March 2002 20:57 >> Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates >> >> >> >But does anyone else find it totally hilarious that Mick Slatterys >> >version misses out Dave's input completely? hahahahhaha.... >> >I laughed and laughed... brilliant. >> > >> >Rx >> > >> ><> >> >>Here's Doug Smith's take on the All Saints Hall and its >> >>aftermath: >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/douglas.html >> >>As Dave Bottomley said of Mick Slattery's version, "the basic >> >>story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it." >> >> >> >>-- >> >> >> >>| | /\ >> >>|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com >> >>| | / >> >>"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! >> >>I'll ask about Exchange Server next. >> >> - Anonymous >> > > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Mar 27 19:15:40 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:15:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:33:24 -0000, dave hall wrote: >Not nice, perhaps. But true Yeah. Whatever. May we please NOT have a repetition of this tired argument? (Unless, of course, you have session logs from the first album in your possession, in which case you should send copies to Ian because that's what we're supposed to be discussing in this thread.) Thanks, -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Mar 27 19:00:53 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:00:53 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: Well,Maybe if they were on LSD it would work!!!!Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave hall" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:33 PM Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > Not nice, perhaps. But true. This x-Hawkwind stuff may be a nice nostalgia > trip for the guys in the band. Fine. But to dress it up as somehow > maintaining "the spirit of Hawkwind" is dross, especially when they try to > flog a lot of extremely dodgy live material of rehashed HW tunes. It's a bit > like Pete Best reforming the Beatles. > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: stephen lindas > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 27 March 2002 22:11 > Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > > > >Well thats not very nice. I thought they invited Dave and he didn't want to > >come. You can't change history. STEPHE > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "dave hall" > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:41 PM > >Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > > > > > >> More from the x-Hawkwind historical revisionist camp. What next, > >airbrushing > >> Dave out of early band shots? > >> > >> Dave > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Rik Rx > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >> Date: 26 March 2002 20:57 > >> Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > >> > >> > >> >But does anyone else find it totally hilarious that Mick Slatterys > >> >version misses out Dave's input completely? hahahahhaha.... > >> >I laughed and laughed... brilliant. > >> > > >> >Rx > >> > > >> ><> > >> >>Here's Doug Smith's take on the All Saints Hall and its > >> >>aftermath: > >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/douglas.html > >> >>As Dave Bottomley said of Mick Slattery's version, "the basic > >> >>story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it." > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >> > >> >>| | /\ > >> >>|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > >> >>| | / > >> >>"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! > >> >>I'll ask about Exchange Server next. > >> >> - Anonymous > >> > > > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Mar 27 19:40:04 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:40:04 -0600 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: I'd be very interested whether anything was recorded on the 16th March 1970, since thats when I was born. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 00:33:24 -0000, dave hall > wrote: > >Not nice, perhaps. But true > > Yeah. > > Whatever. > > May we please NOT have a repetition of this tired argument? (Unless, of > course, you have session logs from the first album in your possession, in > which case you should send copies to Ian because that's what we're supposed > to be discussing in this thread.) > > Thanks, > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Mar 27 21:27:11 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:27:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:40:04 -0600, Rich Warren wrote: >I'd be very interested whether anything was recorded on the 16th March >1970, since thats when I was born. Actually, that seems entirely possible. Bernhard's gig list has an week- long gap with no performances listed between 15th and 24th of March, 1970 (longer than any other gap in performances in early 1970). It would strike me as entirely plausible to assume that the break was taken in order to spend time in the studio (although they probably wouldn't have started recording the very next day after a gig, but you never know ... maybe Dick Taylor was checking the levels on Terry Ollis' snare at the moment you popped out!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Thu Mar 28 00:08:04 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:08:04 -0000 Subject: OFF: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: Funny you should say that Dave. Pete Best has a currently active band; possibly, he is the only ex Beatle truly still involved in proper live touring. However, in a subtle, career (non)enhacing move, he HAS NOT called his band X-BEATLES. Now back to the real thread (sorry Doug, just woke up, couldn't resist). Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave hall" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:33 AM Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > Not nice, perhaps. But true. This x-Hawkwind stuff may be a nice nostalgia > trip for the guys in the band. Fine. But to dress it up as somehow > maintaining "the spirit of Hawkwind" is dross, especially when they try to > flog a lot of extremely dodgy live material of rehashed HW tunes. It's a bit > like Pete Best reforming the Beatles. > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: stephen lindas > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 27 March 2002 22:11 > Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > > > >Well thats not very nice. I thought they invited Dave and he didn't want to > >come. You can't change history. STEPHE > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "dave hall" > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:41 PM > >Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > > > > > >> More from the x-Hawkwind historical revisionist camp. What next, > >airbrushing > >> Dave out of early band shots? > >> > >> Dave > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Rik Rx > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >> Date: 26 March 2002 20:57 > >> Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > >> > >> > >> >But does anyone else find it totally hilarious that Mick Slatterys > >> >version misses out Dave's input completely? hahahahhaha.... > >> >I laughed and laughed... brilliant. > >> > > >> >Rx > >> > > >> ><> > >> >>Here's Doug Smith's take on the All Saints Hall and its > >> >>aftermath: > >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/mal/MO/philm/friends/douglas.html > >> >>As Dave Bottomley said of Mick Slattery's version, "the basic > >> >>story is familiar, but it's the detail that makes it." > >> >> > >> >>-- > >> >> > >> >>| | /\ > >> >>|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > >> >>| | / > >> >>"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! > >> >>I'll ask about Exchange Server next. > >> >> - Anonymous > >> > > > From novadrive at COX.NET Thu Mar 28 00:12:02 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:12:02 -0700 Subject: HW: Strange lyrics question In-Reply-To: <000a01c1d5e0$8906cf40$b256893e@default> Message-ID: Here's "lyrics" question I don't expect an answer to, but which I was pondering the other day: What is it that is being "sung" at the end (after about five minutes) of the 'RoadHawks'/reissue-CD 'Space Ritual' version of "You Shouldn't That" ??? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Mar 28 01:16:34 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:16:34 -0500 Subject: Strange lyrics question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have always wondered about that myself. Just listened to it and cannot make it out. Sounds great though! Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of KevinSommers Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:12 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Strange lyrics question Here's "lyrics" question I don't expect an answer to, but which I was pondering the other day: What is it that is being "sung" at the end (after about five minutes) of the 'RoadHawks'/reissue-CD 'Space Ritual' version of "You Shouldn't That" ??? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Thu Mar 28 05:42:29 2002 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Sumner) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:42:29 -0500 Subject: OFF: Orbital - Dr. Who theme music Message-ID: Hi, Can anyone tell me where I can find Orbital's version of the Dr. Who theme? Regards, Alastair. On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 23:26:58 +0800, William Duffy wrote: >Hi > >Is the Orbital DVD worth getting? Being a Doctor Who fan I'm curious about >the video version of their version of the theme. > >William From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 28 06:59:37 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:59:37 GMT Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates In-Reply-To: Rich Warren's message of Wed, 27 Mar 2002 18:40:04 -0600 Message-ID: Rich Warren writes: > I'd be very interested whether anything was recorded on the 16th March 1970, > since thats when I was born. Jeese, were they still making new people in 1970? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Mar 28 07:01:15 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:01:15 GMT Subject: HW: Strange lyrics question In-Reply-To: KevinSommers's message of Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:12:02 -0700 Message-ID: KevinSommers writes: > Here's "lyrics" question I don't expect an answer to, but which I was > pondering the other day: What is it that is being "sung" at the end (after > about five minutes) of the 'RoadHawks'/reissue-CD 'Space Ritual' version of > "You Shouldn't That" ??? I always think I can here "I can't take control..." in there. FoFP From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Mar 28 07:50:48 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 20:50:48 +0800 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: > I'd be very interested whether anything was recorded on the 16th March 1970, > since thats when I was born. > > Rich W Everyone was down the pub From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 28 09:49:17 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:49:17 EST Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: I have noticed the missing references as well. Thats historical data for ya - so easy to manipulate and make sound / look the way you wan't it. Just ask those dudes over at the vatican - they're the pro's at that. >>>More from the x-Hawkwind historical revisionist camp. What next, airbrushing Dave out of early band shots? Dave From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 28 10:06:25 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:06:25 EST Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: Happy 32nd birthday for 12 days ago. >>>I'd be very interested whether anything was recorded on the 16th March 1970, since thats when I was born. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 28 10:25:47 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:25:47 EST Subject: HW: Strange lyrics question Message-ID: Please forward a copy of that particular CD - and I will suss it out for ya...... ;-) >>>Here's "lyrics" question I don't expect an answer >>>to, but which I was pondering the other day: What is it that is being "sung" at the end (after about five minutes) of the 'RoadHawks'/reissue-CD 'Space Ritual' version of "You Shouldn't That" ??? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Mar 28 10:41:31 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:41:31 EST Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: yup - I know a Jesse that was made in 1970 - a good year too - refined with a fruity aroma >>>Jeese, were they still making new people in 1970? FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Mar 28 13:09:40 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:09:40 -0000 Subject: HW: Star Nation - The Silver Age Message-ID: Got this a couple of days ago cortesy of the ever -efficient Andy G. Cracking stuff, pounding rhythms, punchy guitar, chanted vocals, inspired samples. Well worth ?12-odd quid of anyone's money and worth it just for the Marvel comics -inspired titletrack alone. Nick Also it has the only pop-up insert of any CD I own. From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Mar 28 14:13:12 2002 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:13:12 -0000 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" > > May we please NOT have a repetition of this tired argument? (Unless, of > course, you have session logs from the first album in your possession, in > which case you should send copies to Ian because that's what we're supposed > to be discussing in this thread.) Doug, thanks for this. To clarify, what I'm currently looking for is: As much information as possible on early Hawkwind, ie first gig through to release of the first album Any reviews of the first album (and anything that has band member's comments on it) Any gig reviews circa 1970 Jumping ahead of myself, I'm also looking for contemporary reviews of "Quark Strangeness & Charm" (ie NME, Melody Maker, Sounds..whatever) and again, band member comments on the record. I can't at this point say that there is a specific project started. I'm looking at doing something, but it's really at the formative stage, putting together an introduction, a chapter and a look at a couple of albums (hence the request for Quark era stuff) and see what I've got and what would be the right format to take it forward. Maybe I won't get anywhere, but it'll be interesting to have a go. Scans of any of the above would be great, photocopies would also be really helpful and of course I'll cover costs (or swap for a few live tapes perhaps?). Ian From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Mar 28 14:23:40 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:23:40 -0600 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: lol. Heh. The newer models are an improvement over you prototypes Mike. Incept Dates, Morphology ;-) Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:59 AM Subject: Re: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates > Rich Warren writes: > > > I'd be very interested whether anything was recorded on the 16th March 1970, > > since thats when I was born. > > Jeese, were they still making new people in 1970? > > FoFP From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Mar 28 15:33:25 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:33:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: Pete Best (nothing to do with HW) Message-ID: Apology accepted ;^). ... but it's probably worth mentioning that: Pete Best did not appear on the first six Beatles studio albums (or ANY Beatles studio recording except for the Decca audition tape). Pete Best did not on sing any Beatles songs. Pete Best was never an onstage "focal point" or extremely-visible frontman for the Beatles. Pete Best did not write or co-write a half-dozen some Beatles songs, including some of the Beatles' best-known songs that they continued to perform over a decade after Best's departure. Pete Best had nothing to do with naming the Beatles. The Beatles were never joined by a significant poet/frontman/singer who was an old friend of Pete Best. However, Pete Best DID royally piss off his bandmates in the Beatles because he was much more successful with the ladies than the other three (or 3 of the other 4 when Stu Sutcliffe was in the band). Obligatory nit-picky correction: Paul McCartney's touring the US this spring, and Ringo still seems to have a new All-Starr band every couple years, so you can't really say that Pete Best is the only ex-Beatle still touring. Lame attempt-at-on-topicness: Lemmy's a Beatles fan and claims to have seen them several times in the early days ... I wonder if he had the chance to compare Best vs. Starkey drumming ... ? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:08:04 -0000, Mark Von Bargen wrote: >Funny you should say that Dave. Pete Best has a currently active band; >possibly, he is the only ex Beatle truly still involved in proper live >touring. >However, in a subtle, career (non)enhacing move, he HAS NOT called his band >X-BEATLES. >Now back to the real thread (sorry Doug, just woke up, couldn't resist). > >Mark From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Mar 28 15:51:48 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 20:51:48 -0000 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley Message-ID: I picked up the Glastonbury Fayre CD a while ago, which has one Skin Alley track, 'Sun Music'. It sounds excellent, and I wondered, what the albums are like, and are they available on CD. Rich W From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Mar 28 15:59:50 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:59:50 -0500 Subject: Skin Alley Message-ID: Wasn't someone from HW in that band at one point? Are they on any of the material? Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: OFF: Skin Alley I picked up the Glastonbury Fayre CD a while ago, which has one Skin Alley track, 'Sun Music'. It sounds excellent, and I wondered, what the albums are like, and are they available on CD. Rich W From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Mar 28 16:04:13 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:04:13 -0000 Subject: Skin Alley Message-ID: Yes. Thomas Crimble was in Skin Alley as well as the Hawks, and was also involved with organising Glastonbury Fayre (I think I read somewhere Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen lindas" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Skin Alley > Wasn't someone from HW in that band at one point? Are they on any of the > material? Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rich Warren" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:51 PM > Subject: OFF: Skin Alley > > > I picked up the Glastonbury Fayre CD a while ago, which has one Skin Alley > track, 'Sun Music'. > > It sounds excellent, and I wondered, what the albums are like, and are they > available on CD. > > Rich W From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Mar 28 16:15:00 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:15:00 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 20:51:48 -0000, Rich Warren wrote: >I picked up the Glastonbury Fayre CD a while ago, which has one Skin Alley >track, 'Sun Music'. > >It sounds excellent, and I wondered, what the albums are like, and are >they available on CD. I have the first (s/t - with the policeman blowing a bubble on the cover), third ('Skin Tight') and Fourth (can't remember the title) Skin Alley albums. I haven't listened in a while, but I remember thinking that the first one is great, but the other two not so hot (I believe that the studio version of "Sun Music" is on 'Skin Tight'). They haven't been reissued on CD AFAIK, but at least the first two were on CBS UK, and a lot of the really great stuff on that label is being reissued by Sony (Trees albums, Robert Wyatt's 'End of an Ear', etc.), so there may be hope ... The third and fourth albums were actually issued in the US, on (I think) the Stax label (well known for soul music and Booker T. & the MG's - definitely NOT known for UK underground bands! But then again, Rare Earth/Motown put out the Pretty Things in the States, so stranger things have happened.), so they can be found without too much difficulty here. I guess I'll have to pull them all out and give them another listen ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Mar 28 16:31:06 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Cosmic Dolphin) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:31:06 -0000 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley Message-ID: Interesting, the first two Skin Alley albums are available as a doubleheader CD on See For Miles: Skin Alley / To Pagham And Beyond... : SKIN ALLEY : CD ?11.91 Living In Sin : Tell Me : Marsha : Country Aire : All Alone : Night Time : Concerto Grosso (Take Heed) : (Going Down The) Highway : Big Brother Is Watching You : Take Me To Your Leader's Daughter : Walking In The Park : The Queen Of Bad Intentions : Sweaty Betty : Easy To Lie Part Code: SEECD681 Artist: SKIN ALLEY Label: SEE FOR MILES Format: CD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:15 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Skin Alley > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 20:51:48 -0000, Rich Warren > wrote: > >I picked up the Glastonbury Fayre CD a while ago, which has one Skin Alley > >track, 'Sun Music'. > > > >It sounds excellent, and I wondered, what the albums are like, and are > >they available on CD. > > I have the first (s/t - with the policeman blowing a bubble on the cover), > third ('Skin Tight') and Fourth (can't remember the title) Skin Alley > albums. I haven't listened in a while, but I remember thinking that the > first one is great, but the other two not so hot (I believe that the studio > version of "Sun Music" is on 'Skin Tight'). They haven't been reissued on > CD AFAIK, but at least the first two were on CBS UK, and a lot of the > really great stuff on that label is being reissued by Sony (Trees albums, > Robert Wyatt's 'End of an Ear', etc.), so there may be hope ... > > The third and fourth albums were actually issued in the US, on (I think) > the Stax label (well known for soul music and Booker T. & the MG's - > definitely NOT known for UK underground bands! But then again, Rare > Earth/Motown put out the Pretty Things in the States, so stranger things > have happened.), so they can be found without too much difficulty here. > > I guess I'll have to pull them all out and give them another listen ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Mar 28 16:36:06 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:36:06 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley Message-ID: Which ones do Thomas play on? Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Skin Alley > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 20:51:48 -0000, Rich Warren > wrote: > >I picked up the Glastonbury Fayre CD a while ago, which has one Skin Alley > >track, 'Sun Music'. > > > >It sounds excellent, and I wondered, what the albums are like, and are > >they available on CD. > > I have the first (s/t - with the policeman blowing a bubble on the cover), > third ('Skin Tight') and Fourth (can't remember the title) Skin Alley > albums. I haven't listened in a while, but I remember thinking that the > first one is great, but the other two not so hot (I believe that the studio > version of "Sun Music" is on 'Skin Tight'). They haven't been reissued on > CD AFAIK, but at least the first two were on CBS UK, and a lot of the > really great stuff on that label is being reissued by Sony (Trees albums, > Robert Wyatt's 'End of an Ear', etc.), so there may be hope ... > > The third and fourth albums were actually issued in the US, on (I think) > the Stax label (well known for soul music and Booker T. & the MG's - > definitely NOT known for UK underground bands! But then again, Rare > Earth/Motown put out the Pretty Things in the States, so stranger things > have happened.), so they can be found without too much difficulty here. > > I guess I'll have to pull them all out and give them another listen ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Mar 28 16:34:02 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:34:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:36:06 -0500, stephen lindas wrote: >Which ones do Thomas play on? Cheers STEPHE I'm pretty sure he's on all four of them. The CD on See For Miles that Rich posted about sounds like a winner ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Mar 28 16:38:56 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:38:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:34:02 -0500, Doug Pearson wrote >On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:36:06 -0500, stephen lindas >wrote: >>Which ones do Thomas play on? Cheers STEPHE > >I'm pretty sure he's on all four of them. The CD on See For Miles that >Rich posted about sounds like a winner ... Scratch that. My mistake. He's only on the first two. See: http://www.dinosaurdays.co.za/180600/d180600.htm (You'll need to scroll down the page a bit) ... which makes the CD Rich mentioned seem even more appealing ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Mar 28 16:51:15 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Cosmic Dolphin) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:51:15 -0000 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley/UA Foldout Compilation? Message-ID: A long time ago I remember seeing a UA? compilation album with a g/foldout? sleeve, which I think had both Hawkwind and Skin Alley on it, as well as some other UA artistes. A Half naked girl featured in the sleeve. Has anyone ever seen this? I have only ever seen it once. And have always regretted not buying it. My memory is a bit wonky regarding this item, since I probably saw it circa 1988 at a record fair. Maybe it was a promotional item, my memory is telling me artist sampler though. Any ideas? Rich W From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Mar 28 17:00:11 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:00:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley Message-ID: In other words this was Thomas's pre HW material, or am I wrong. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Skin Alley > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:34:02 -0500, Doug Pearson > wrote > >On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:36:06 -0500, stephen lindas > >wrote: > >>Which ones do Thomas play on? Cheers STEPHE > > > >I'm pretty sure he's on all four of them. The CD on See For Miles that > >Rich posted about sounds like a winner ... > > Scratch that. My mistake. He's only on the first two. See: > http://www.dinosaurdays.co.za/180600/d180600.htm > (You'll need to scroll down the page a bit) > > ... which makes the CD Rich mentioned seem even more appealing ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Mar 28 17:02:24 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Cosmic Dolphin) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:02:24 -0000 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley Message-ID: Yep. ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen lindas" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Skin Alley > In other words this was Thomas's pre HW material, or am I wrong. Cheers > STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Pearson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Skin Alley > > > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:34:02 -0500, Doug Pearson > > wrote > > >On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:36:06 -0500, stephen lindas > > >wrote: > > >>Which ones do Thomas play on? Cheers STEPHE > > > > > >I'm pretty sure he's on all four of them. The CD on See For Miles that > > >Rich posted about sounds like a winner ... > > > > Scratch that. My mistake. He's only on the first two. See: > > http://www.dinosaurdays.co.za/180600/d180600.htm > > (You'll need to scroll down the page a bit) > > > > ... which makes the CD Rich mentioned seem even more appealing ... > > > > -Doug > > jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Mar 28 17:50:09 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:50:09 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley/UA Foldout Compilation? Message-ID: I'd be surprised if Skin Alley were on it, since they were on CBS, not UA. One possibility might be the 'Gutbucket' or 'Son Of Gutbucket' samplers - I couldn't find pictures of their sleeves, but Skin Alley & the Groundhogs are apparently on them ... but 'Son Of...' came out in '69 so Hawkwind couldn't be on it! Another possibility might be the 'All Good Clean Fun' sampler (except that the sleeve doesn't match your description - see http://home.clara.net/fil/rocksamplers/liberty-ua.htm ), which has Hawkwind, Man, Groundhogs, Brinsleys etc. but no Skin Alley. Would it possibly be a collection of Clearwater-managed bands? That would probably have to also include Cochise, High Tide, etc. then. Somebody else probably knows far better than I ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:51:15 -0000, Cosmic Dolphin wrote: >A long time ago I remember seeing a UA? compilation album with a >g/foldout? sleeve, which I think had both Hawkwind and Skin Alley on it, >as well as some other UA artistes. A Half naked girl featured in the >sleeve. From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Mar 28 18:02:56 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Cosmic Dolphin) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:02:56 -0000 Subject: OFF: Skin Alley/UA Foldout Compilation? Message-ID: Doug, that is ringing bells, I think there was a Clearwater logo thing somewhere on it. But it's still shouting UA at me as well. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:50 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Skin Alley/UA Foldout Compilation? > I'd be surprised if Skin Alley were on it, since they were on CBS, not UA. > > One possibility might be the 'Gutbucket' or 'Son Of Gutbucket' samplers - I > couldn't find pictures of their sleeves, but Skin Alley & the Groundhogs > are apparently on them ... but 'Son Of...' came out in '69 so Hawkwind > couldn't be on it! > > Another possibility might be the 'All Good Clean Fun' sampler (except that > the sleeve doesn't match your description - see > http://home.clara.net/fil/rocksamplers/liberty-ua.htm ), which has > Hawkwind, Man, Groundhogs, Brinsleys etc. but no Skin Alley. > > Would it possibly be a collection of Clearwater-managed bands? That would > probably have to also include Cochise, High Tide, etc. then. > > Somebody else probably knows far better than I ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:51:15 -0000, Cosmic Dolphin > wrote: > >A long time ago I remember seeing a UA? compilation album with a > >g/foldout? sleeve, which I think had both Hawkwind and Skin Alley on it, > >as well as some other UA artistes. A Half naked girl featured in the > >sleeve. From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Thu Mar 28 18:25:46 2002 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:25:46 -0800 Subject: OFF:Kign Black Acid live on KNRK radio Fri 6-9AM West coast Message-ID: King Black Acid will be playing live throughout the morning morning broadcast at KNRK 6-9AM on the west coast in Portland. Friday Morning March 29th. KNRK does have a web address: http://www.947nrk.com/index.jhtml so you just might be able to hear KBA via the internet live! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? http://movies.yahoo.com/ From soltanic at YAHOO.COM Thu Mar 28 18:39:33 2002 From: soltanic at YAHOO.COM (Allen Shaw) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:39:33 -0800 Subject: OFF:King Black Acid live on KNRK radio Fri 6-9AM West coast In-Reply-To: <20020328232546.75381.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- Allen Shaw wrote: > King Black Acid will be playing live throughout > the morning morning broadcast at KNRK 6-9AM on > the west coast in Portland. Friday Morning March > 29th. > > KNRK does have a web address: > http://www.947nrk.com/index.jhtml > > so you just might be able to hear KBA via the > internet > live! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? > http://movies.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? http://movies.yahoo.com/ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Mar 28 19:03:31 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:03:31 EST Subject: Voice Print Sampler Message-ID: I know this was discussed a little while back, but I just got my copy of the Voiceprint sampler, and there are no tracks listed, just came in a plain sleeve. When I did a Winamp search, the artist/track list was confusing, It lists The Alarm as the band for every song? Does anyone have a complete track list for this cd? thanks bob (in sampler heaven) From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Mar 28 19:19:11 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:19:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Voice Print Sampler In-Reply-To: <16e.b291c80.29d50953@aol.com> Message-ID: Here it is! 1. The Alarm - Rain in Summertime 2. All About Eve - Wishing the Hours away 3. Fish - So Fellini 4. The Fall - Gotta See Jane 5. Talk Talk - After The Flood 6. Hawkwind - Flying doctor 7. Giles Giles & Fripp - Wonderland 8. Gordon Giltrap - The Racer 9. The Sound - Winning 10. John Martyn - Certain Surprise 11. Jansen, Barbieri & Karn - Bestial Cluster 12. Little River Band - Where We Started From 13. John Foxx & Louis Gordon - A Funny Thing 14. Harold Budd - The Pearl 15. Bill Nelson - Kinda Fuzzy 16. McDowell - Diana of the Dogwood 17. Tim Friese Green - Purple Haze 18. Martin Stephenson - Orange Is The Colour Of Joy Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Bob Lennon Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:04 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Voice Print Sampler I know this was discussed a little while back, but I just got my copy of the Voiceprint sampler, and there are no tracks listed, just came in a plain sleeve. When I did a Winamp search, the artist/track list was confusing, It lists The Alarm as the band for every song? Does anyone have a complete track list for this cd? thanks bob (in sampler heaven) From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Mar 28 19:26:00 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 19:26:00 EST Subject: OFF: Voice Print Sampler Message-ID: Well, that clears that up. Thanks! bob In a message dated 3/28/2002 7:19:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, chrisr at TIAC.NET writes: > Here it is! > > 1. The Alarm - Rain in Summertime > 2. All About Eve - Wishing the Hours away > 3. Fish - So Fellini > 4. The Fall - Gotta See Jane > 5. Talk Talk - After The Flood > 6. Hawkwind - Flying doctor > 7. Giles Giles & Fripp - Wonderland > 8. Gordon Giltrap - The Racer > 9. The Sound - Winning > 10. John Martyn - Certain Surprise > 11. Jansen, Barbieri & Karn - Bestial Cluster > 12. Little River Band - Where We Started From > 13. John Foxx & Louis Gordon - A Funny Thing > 14. Harold Budd - The Pearl > 15. Bill Nelson - Kinda Fuzzy > 16. McDowell - Diana of the Dogwood > 17. Tim Friese Green - Purple Haze > 18. Martin Stephenson - Orange Is The Colour Of Joy > > Chris From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Thu Mar 28 20:16:20 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:16:20 -0000 Subject: HW: Star Nation - The Silver Age Message-ID: ty Nick - most kind - plenty in stock if anyone wants to follow - new mail-out due to go out to all CD Services psych customers next week incl full track list for new H'wind - Live '90 CD. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: HW: Star Nation - The Silver Age Got this a couple of days ago cortesy of the ever -efficient Andy G. Cracking stuff, pounding rhythms, punchy guitar, chanted vocals, inspired samples. Well worth ?12-odd quid of anyone's money and worth it just for the Marvel comics -inspired titletrack alone. Nick Also it has the only pop-up insert of any CD I own. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Mar 28 21:06:28 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:06:28 -0500 Subject: HW: was Star Nation - now Nottingham Message-ID: >ty Nick - most kind - plenty in stock if anyone wants to follow - new >mail-out due to go out to all CD Services psych customers next week incl >full track list for new H'wind - Live '90 CD. >Andy G. On the subject of the Live Legends/Bedrock thingy, there's a discussion going on over on rmp about these DVDs coming out from these performances, including Gong, Hatfield & the North, and others. And folks there are saying that these DVDs are actually cut down (!) from the original video and/or CD releases, and even though it says 80 minutes on the outside, they're far less than that on the inside. I didn't see any confirmation about HW's, but I wonder if it's complete or not. And now I wonder about this CD, since this is the first pure audio release of this show. >From memory, it seems as though Wind of Change was played as audio only during the end credits of the video, and so I'm wondering if that is in fact what may (and I repeat *may*, as in theoretically) have been cut from the DVD (following the course of the others). And I also seem to remember somebody saying that more was actually performed that night in Nottingham, though this partial memory seems to be that maybe one track was played twice, perhaps as an opportunity to adjust recording levels and video setup or something at the outset. Again, vague memories only. Anyway, I'll be curious to know whether there will be a need to buy both the DVD and the stinkin' CD too!* And I've already forgotten what the situation was with the region-encoding of the DVD...are there separate Region 1 and 2 (or whatever), or will all play everywhere? I know somebody answered this before, but I've let it slip my mind. Curiously, Grakkl (FAA) *P.S. Am I now also remembering that the Nottingham CD was perhaps going to be 2 CDs? If that's correct, then what the hell is the rest of the material? That would pretty much make both necessary, although I do have the VHS that won't be going bad anytime soon. From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Thu Mar 28 23:43:36 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 04:43:36 GMT Subject: BOC: attn. citizens of the upstate NY Message-ID: BOC: 5/26 Syracuse, NY NY State Fairground WAQX Radio show w/Foghat (what will foghat be like without lonesome dave?) Jason --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Fri Mar 29 03:46:43 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:46:43 -0000 Subject: Voice Print Sampler Message-ID: Bob, You scored a winner if you got the Alarm on every track?! hehehe!! Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Lennon" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:03 AM Subject: Voice Print Sampler > I know this was discussed a little while back, but I just got my copy of the > Voiceprint sampler, and there are no tracks listed, just came in a plain > sleeve. > When I did a Winamp search, the artist/track list was confusing, It lists The > Alarm as the band for every song? > Does anyone have a complete track list for this cd? > thanks > bob (in sampler heaven) From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Mar 29 04:46:23 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:46:23 -0000 Subject: HW: Early Days & Studio Dates Message-ID: Ah yes Mike, but in those days everything cost sixpence, was made of wood, and lasted forever. (Cue Symphony For The New World... and small child riding bike up cobbled street...) :-) Cheers, Rich. > Rich Warren writes: > > > I'd be very interested whether anything was recorded on the 16th March 1970, > > since thats when I was born. > > Jeese, were they still making new people in 1970? > > FoFP > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 29 04:56:34 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:56:34 -0000 Subject: HW: was Star Nation - now Nottingham Message-ID: The DVD is the tv broadcast version with the credits rolling over the end of Damanation Alley. The Live Legends VHS release has a full version 0of Wind Of Change with the credits rolling towards the end of it. Nick > On the subject of the Live Legends/Bedrock thingy, there's a discussion > going on over on rmp about these DVDs coming out from these performances, > including Gong, Hatfield & the North, and others. And folks there are > saying that these DVDs are actually cut down (!) from the original video > and/or CD releases, and even though it says 80 minutes on the outside, > they're far less than that on the inside. I didn't see any confirmation > about HW's, but I wonder if it's complete or not. And now I wonder about > this CD, since this is the first pure audio release of this show. > > From memory, it seems as though Wind of Change was played as audio only > during the end credits of the video, and so I'm wondering if that is in fact > what may (and I repeat *may*, as in theoretically) have been cut from the > DVD (following the course of the others). And I also seem to remember > somebody saying that more was actually performed that night in Nottingham, > though this partial memory seems to be that maybe one track was played > twice, perhaps as an opportunity to adjust recording levels and video setup > or something at the outset. Again, vague memories only. > > Anyway, I'll be curious to know whether there will be a need to buy both the > DVD and the stinkin' CD too!* And I've already forgotten what the situation > was with the region-encoding of the DVD...are there separate Region 1 and 2 > (or whatever), or will all play everywhere? I know somebody answered this > before, but I've let it slip my mind. > > Curiously, Grakkl (FAA) > > *P.S. Am I now also remembering that the Nottingham CD was perhaps going to > be 2 CDs? If that's correct, then what the hell is the rest of the > material? That would pretty much make both necessary, although I do have > the VHS that won't be going bad anytime soon. > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Mar 29 05:59:10 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:59:10 -0000 Subject: HW: Lab coat history Message-ID: After the last Hawkwind gig I was in discussion with some others re the demise of the Lab coat at gigs. You know every gig had at least one guy with one, usually with ISOS or the Space Ritual logo on the back (name the guilty!). What are the origins of this - we've nailed it to the Quark sleeve and Dave wearing one one stage. Any pre-1977 sightings? Dave From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Mar 29 05:46:27 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:46:27 -0000 Subject: OFF: Doctor Who / CD / Doctor Poo Message-ID: Burned out now - send me your address and I'll drop the CD in the post. For any Doctor Who fans I'd also recommend downloading "Doctor Poo" from the Viz website. It's a Flash executable and funny as the proverbial tickling stick on the seam. "I'd leave it ten minutes if were you Davros..." Cheers, Rich. > Hi, > Can anyone tell me where I can find Orbital's version of the Dr. Who theme? > > Regards, > Alastair. > > > > >Hi > > > >Is the Orbital DVD worth getting? Being a Doctor Who fan I'm curious about > >the video version of their version of the theme. > > > >William > From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Mar 29 05:49:37 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 05:49:37 EST Subject: Voice Print Sampler Message-ID: Not such a big winner, as much as Winamp's un-ability to be able to ID cd's bob In a message dated 3/29/2002 3:44:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK writes: > Bob, > > You scored a winner if you got the Alarm on every track?! hehehe!! > > Mark From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Mar 29 09:12:17 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:12:17 -0000 Subject: HW: Lab coat history Message-ID: 1976 - lots of photos around of Dave wearing one there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave hall" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: HW: Lab coat history After the last Hawkwind gig I was in discussion with some others re the demise of the Lab coat at gigs. You know every gig had at least one guy with one, usually with ISOS or the Space Ritual logo on the back (name the guilty!). What are the origins of this - we've nailed it to the Quark sleeve and Dave wearing one one stage. Any pre-1977 sightings? Dave From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 29 11:26:37 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:26:37 -0000 Subject: Blue Skin lyrics Message-ID: Listening to Alien 4 earlier, I noticed a line in Blue Skin: "Slice the flesh like the Tiko Tiko stares" (Tiko = phonetic spelling) and wondered whether this was an obscure reference to HP Lovecraft's Tcho-Tcho. Anyone? --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Mar 29 09:01:52 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:01:52 -0500 Subject: BOC: attn. citizens of the upstate NY Message-ID: Saw them both last year,Foghat pretty good actually even w/out dave. of course,BOC kicked ass!! tim 8>)... Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > BOC: > 5/26 Syracuse, NY NY State Fairground WAQX Radio show w/Foghat > (what will foghat be like without lonesome dave?) > > Jason > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Mar 29 12:15:06 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:15:06 EDT Subject: BOC: attn. citizens of the upstate NY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 29 Mar 2002, at 9:01, Tim wrote: > Saw them both last year,Foghat pretty good actually even w/out dave. > of course,BOC kicked ass!! tim 8>)... Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > > > BOC: > > 5/26 Syracuse, NY NY State Fairground WAQX Radio show > w/Foghat > (what will foghat be like without lonesome dave?) > > Yeah, come on, you bastards, keep reminding me about this show. First time B?C plays my home town in about 15 years, and I'm going to be in Hawaii! Ah, well, I reckon there's worse ways to miss a B?C show... theo From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 29 14:39:45 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:39:45 -0000 Subject: Blue Skin lyrics Message-ID: The lyric book with the Love In Space 2CD has the spelling as Teko-Teko which doesn't help me. Anyone else? Nick > Listening to Alien 4 earlier, I noticed a line in Blue Skin: > > "Slice the flesh like the Tiko Tiko stares" (Tiko = phonetic spelling) > > and wondered whether this was an obscure reference to HP Lovecraft's > Tcho-Tcho. > > Anyone? From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 29 14:41:19 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:41:19 -0000 Subject: Blue Skin lyrics Message-ID: Teko, Tiko, whatever :-) --- Kevin Perry The Mountain Grill http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: Blue Skin lyrics > The lyric book with the Love In Space 2CD has the spelling as Teko-Teko > which doesn't help me. Anyone else? > > Nick > > > Listening to Alien 4 earlier, I noticed a line in Blue Skin: > > > > "Slice the flesh like the Tiko Tiko stares" (Tiko = phonetic spelling) > > > > and wondered whether this was an obscure reference to HP Lovecraft's > > Tcho-Tcho. > > > > Anyone? From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Mar 29 15:20:14 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:20:14 GMT Subject: HW: Lab coat history Message-ID: I seem to remember on the Pic sleeve of the 'Back on the Street'single (early 77),There's a photo of the band on stage from the 76 tour with Dave in a Lab coat. Mick > After the last Hawkwind gig I was in discussion with some others re the demise of the Lab coat at gigs. You know every gig had at least one guy with one, usually with ISOS or the Space Ritual logo on the back (name the guilty!). What are the origins of this - we've nailed it to the Quark sleeve and Dave wearing one one stage. Any pre-1977 sightings? > >Dave -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Mar 29 15:31:09 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:31:09 -0000 Subject: HW: Lab coat history Message-ID: > > After the last Hawkwind gig I was in discussion with some others re the demise of the Lab coat at gigs. You know every gig had at least one guy with one, usually with ISOS or the Space Ritual logo on the back (name the guilty!). What are the origins of this - we've nailed it That'd be Steve Hibbert, I guess. Nick From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Mar 29 17:31:32 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:31:32 -0000 Subject: HW: Lab coat history Message-ID: But who was the arse with the gas mask at the front of the Coney Island High gig a few years ago? (The one where I got pissed out of my brain and ran into a few list members in McDonalds afterwards - they understandably didn't want to go to a bar with me, particularly after I staggered outside and threw up in a potted plant...) I'm sorry - whoever you were. You just had the BOC-L T-shirts on - and I was (as Sting says) an Englishman in New York. Sting missed out the "pissed as a little beetle" bit though. :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: HW: Lab coat history > > > After the last Hawkwind gig I was in discussion with some others re the > demise of the Lab coat at gigs. You know every gig had at least one guy with > one, usually with ISOS or the Space Ritual logo on the back (name the > guilty!). What are the origins of this - we've nailed it > > That'd be Steve Hibbert, I guess. > > Nick > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Mar 29 19:28:11 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:28:11 -0000 Subject: OFF: Progress Quest Message-ID: Just as a matter of interest, is anyone here playing Progress Quest? (www.progressquest.com) If not, WHY NOT! There's a built in Hawkwind level (if you've not found it yet, it's in act VII - grab the invisible lance, exterminate the ettins, fetch me a match and BINGO! HLL made up as a dragon!!!), the graphics on the 3d mode are astounding, there are "Cronos" symbols hidden everywhere, and on the whole, it makes Grand Theft Auto 3 look like space invaders. Oh, and it's free!!!! Drop me a line off list if you fancy joining the "Technique and Ferret" alliance. Cheers, Rich. From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Fri Mar 29 19:31:52 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:31:52 -0000 Subject: HW: was Star Nation - now Nottingham Message-ID: the CD is NOT all Nottingham by any means apparently - hence the new title. As to the DVD's that is alonger tale - what is rmp anyway???? Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 2:06 AM Subject: Re: HW: was Star Nation - now Nottingham From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Mar 29 19:27:44 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:27:44 -0500 Subject: HW: was Star Nation - now Nottingham Message-ID: AG says/wonders.... >the CD is NOT all Nottingham by any means apparently - hence the new title. Oh, cool. So my idea that it's to be 2CD is correct? Hope it's really *new* stuff and not extra dog-barking outtakes from Glasters '90. :) >As to the DVD's that is a longer tale - what is rmp anyway???? USENET rec.music.progressive Grakkl (FAA), who can't understand why the DVD makers would just so obliviously fail to complete *all* of these Bedrock shows to *at least* what was issued on VHS. I mean, cripes, the whole DVD reissue craze is predicated on people only buying them *if* they get something new and better out of it, knowing that people are a wee bit tired of planned obsolescence in the realm of electronics/computers, and entertainment tied thusly. Ah, the 'winds of change' are blowing...you just can't hear them on the stinkin' DVD! From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Mar 29 21:31:09 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:31:09 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/23/02 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck 3/23/02 1.Ozric Tentacles-- "Dots Thots" (Live Underslunky; Snapper/Dovetail) 2.Mars Everywhere-- title-track (Industrial Sabotage; Random Radar) 3.Hawkwind-- "Assassins" (Love in Space; EBS) 4.Sour Note Seven-- "Hollow Deli" (Because of Wayne; Evander) 5.Future Sound of London-- "The Far-Out Son of Lung and the Ramblings of a Madman" (ISDN; Virgin/EBV) 6.Salaryman-- "Voids and Superclusters" (ST'd; 12 Inch) 7.Fuxa-- "100 White Envelopes" (3 Field Rotation; Che Trading/i) 8.Stereolab-- "Our Trinitone Blast" (Transient Random-Noise Bursts w/Announcements; Elektra) 9.La Dusseldorf-- title-track (ST'd) 10.Schema-- "Echolalia...Curvilinear" (ST'd; 5 Rue Christine) 11.Quarkspace-- "Bonzo's G.S.B." (Spacefolds 6; Eternity's Jest) 12.Loopian Zu-- "There is a Massive Mess of Moosh Mounding in My Mental Membrane, Motha!" (Valley of the Brains; Warped and Wound) 13.Alien Sex Fiend-- "E.S.T. " (Acid Bath; Anagram) 14.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Twinko" (Electrickitchentableland; Manic Obsessive) 15.Sabotage Opportunistic Deaf-Mutism-- "Geldkette/Conchachord/Brucke" (Otolithen; Cuneiform) 16.Henry Cow-- "Ruins" (Unrest; East Side Digital) 17.Residents-- "Night Train" (American Composer Series Vol 1: George and James; Ralph) 18.JFK Jr. Royal Airforce-- "Nobody's Flying the Plane" (ST'd; Slutfish) 19.Species Being-- Track #2 (Orgone Therapy; Innerspace/Chaosophy) 20.Steve Hillage-- "The Glorious Om Riff" 21.Kingston Wall-- "Istwan" (II; Zen Garden Oy) 22.Krel-- "So Long/Star Fall" (Ad Astra; Dead Earnest) 23.Nik Turner-- "Andromeda" (Prophets of Time; Cleopatra) 24.Guild Navigators-- "Party at the Edge of Time" (Phase 1: '91-'97; Amblifier) 25.Chrome-- "Anti-fade" (Subterranean Modern/Chrome Box; Ralph/Cleopatra) 26.Guru Guru-- "Spaceship" (Hinten/Best of Part 1; Cleopatra) 27.Pressurehed-- title-track (Explaining the Unexplained; Cleopatra) 28.Scattered Planets-- "Double Vision" (Drinking with Aliens) 29.Hawkwind-- "Master of the Universe" (Space Ritual bonus track/EMI) 30.Architectural Metaphor-- "Brainticket" (Odysseum Galacti/Space Box comp; Kairos/Cleopatra) thanks...and let me know if you'd like me to bring anything in particular to the station for airing tomorrow night! Chuck From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Mar 29 22:27:11 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 03:27:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: Progress Quest Message-ID: Not played this one yet but I've been playing Runescape which is also free with a paying members section can't think of the URL but type it into your search engine you'll find it. Met 2 Lord Elrics and a guy who used to go to Stonehenge around the time I used to Mid - Late 80's if u try it look for my charector Strawb and say hi >From: Richard Lockwood >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: OFF: Progress Quest >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:28:11 -0000 > >Just as a matter of interest, is anyone here playing Progress Quest? >(www.progressquest.com) If not, WHY NOT! There's a built in Hawkwind level >(if you've not found it yet, it's in act VII - grab the invisible lance, >exterminate the ettins, fetch me a match and BINGO! HLL made up as a >dragon!!!), the graphics on the 3d mode are astounding, there are "Cronos" >symbols hidden everywhere, and on the whole, it makes Grand Theft Auto 3 >look like space invaders. > >Oh, and it's free!!!! > >Drop me a line off list if you fancy joining the "Technique and Ferret" >alliance. > >Cheers, > >Rich. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Mar 30 02:52:46 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Cosmic Dolphin) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 07:52:46 -0000 Subject: OFF: Progress Quest Message-ID: I'm playing-) For my sins. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 3:27 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Progress Quest > Not played this one yet but I've been playing Runescape which is also free > with a paying members section can't think of the URL but type it into your > search engine you'll find it. Met 2 Lord Elrics and a guy who used to go to > Stonehenge around the time I used to Mid - Late 80's if u try it look for my > charector Strawb and say hi > > > >From: Richard Lockwood > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: OFF: Progress Quest > >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:28:11 -0000 > > > >Just as a matter of interest, is anyone here playing Progress Quest? > >(www.progressquest.com) If not, WHY NOT! There's a built in Hawkwind level > >(if you've not found it yet, it's in act VII - grab the invisible lance, > >exterminate the ettins, fetch me a match and BINGO! HLL made up as a > >dragon!!!), the graphics on the 3d mode are astounding, there are "Cronos" > >symbols hidden everywhere, and on the whole, it makes Grand Theft Auto 3 > >look like space invaders. > > > >Oh, and it's free!!!! > > > >Drop me a line off list if you fancy joining the "Technique and Ferret" > >alliance. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Rich. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Mar 30 05:11:54 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 05:11:54 -0500 Subject: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock show!! Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (March 30, 2002): We've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio. See the playlist below. Check out the NO PIGEONHOLES radio program of home produced recordings and independent small studios. Live, twice a month on KKUP in the San Francisco and Monterey Bay Areas. Get your music on the radio, any style! Hear it in Real Audio at http://www.kkup.com/donc.html No Pigeonholes is produced by underground veteran Don Campau. Visit Don at http://lonelywhistle.tripod.com Hear even more cool underground radio at Semper Lo-Fi. Go to http://www.semperlofi.com/ and click the radio link. Mr. Quimby's Beard European tour schedule: April 20 - Copenhagen, Denmark - Stengade 30 April 22 - The Hague - The Psychedelicatessen Radio show April 26 - Zoetermeer, Holland (with the Ozric Tentacles) De Boerderij April 30 - Berlin - RAW Tempel May 1 - Hamburg - Molotov Club May 3 - D?sseldorf - Haus Theodor/ (Rock Caf?) May 4 - Aschaffenburg - Eclipsed Fest May 5 - Verviers, Belgium - Spirit of '66 Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (Show #45: General Playlist) Pocket Venus - "Through Your Day" (from Make It Through Your Day) Mandra Gora Lightshow Society - "Betty Day" (from Space Rave) The Sick Rose - "Resistance"(from s/t 7") Farflung - "Hot Fluffy Mind" (from 25,000 Feet Per Second) Census Of Hallucinations - "Where?" (from Sixth Sense) Tales - "The Seskian Wars" (from The Seskian Wars) The Atomic Bitchwax - "Liquor Queen" (from Spit Blood) Eternal Elysium - "Machine" (from Share) The Billy Syndrome - "Clowns Don't Settle Down" (from Stratego) The Guild Navigators - "Sympathy Wounds" (from The Last Decade Phase 1: 1991-1997) VisionEar - "Ambiene" (from Future Sans) Mushroom - "A Dusty Groove" (from Oh They're Weird And Wonderful) Mozart Rottweiler - "Carnival Of Souls" (from Shaken Hands With The Groundhogs) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. Be sure and check out the Aural Innovations CD mail order catalog for the best tunes you've never heard. Support independent music!! http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html From mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM Sat Mar 30 11:30:21 2002 From: mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM (Duc De Montfort) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:30:21 -0500 Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: I don't usually read or pass on things like this but you HAVE TO read this one.. I want some of the drugs this guy is taking... Mike PS I have replied as an evil alien telling him we know where he is and are coming to get him. PPS no not really.. -----Original Message----- From: webmaster at dk.com [mailto:webmaster at dk.com] Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 12:53 AM Subject: Aliens or Time Travelers PLEASE HELP! If you are a time traveler or alien disguised as human and or have the technology to travel physically through time I need your help! My life has been severely tampered with and cursed!! I have suffered tremendously and am now dying! I need to be able to: Travel back in time. Rewind my life including my age back to 4. I am in very great danger and need this immediately! I am aware of two types of time travel one in physical form and the other in energy form where a snapshot of your brain is taken using either the dimensional warp or an electronic device and then sends your consciousness back through time to part with your younger self. Please explain how safe and what your method involves. I have a time machine now, but it has limited abilitys and is useless without a vortex. If you can provide information on how to create vortex generator or where I can get some of the blue glowing moon crystals this would also be helpful. I am however concerned with the high level of radiation these crystals give off, if you could provide a shielding or other crystals which give off a north polarized vortex field just as strong or strong enough to make a watch stop this would be great. Only if you have this technology and can help me exactly as mentioned please send me a (SEPARATE) email to: IneedTimeTravel at aol.com Please do not reply if your an evil alien! Thanks _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 30 11:46:05 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:46:05 EST Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: In a message dated 3/30/02 11:42:09 AM US Eastern Standard Time, mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM writes: > I want some of the drugs this guy is taking... > > Maybe he's snorting the glowing blue moon crystals. Joe From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Mar 30 12:04:05 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 03:04:05 +1000 Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: All seems perfectly reasonable to me and I am sure he will soon find a way around his relatively minor technical problems. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duc De Montfort" To: Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:30 AM Subject: Now here is an alien dream > I don't usually read or pass on things like this but you HAVE TO read this > one.. > > I want some of the drugs this guy is taking... > > Mike > > PS I have replied as an evil alien telling him we know where he is and are > coming to get him. > PPS no not really.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: webmaster at dk.com [mailto:webmaster at dk.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 12:53 AM > Subject: Aliens or Time Travelers PLEASE HELP! > > > If you are a time traveler or alien disguised as human and or have > the technology to travel physically through time I need your help! > > My life has been severely tampered with and cursed!! > I have suffered tremendously and am now dying! > > I need to be able to: > > Travel back in time. > > Rewind my life including my age back to 4. > > I am in very great danger and need this immediately! > > I am aware of two types of time travel one in physical form and the other > in energy form where a snapshot of your brain is taken using either the > dimensional warp or an electronic device and then sends your consciousness > back through time to part with your younger self. Please explain > how safe and what your method involves. > > I have a time machine now, but it has limited abilitys and is useless > without a vortex. > > If you can provide information on how to create vortex generator or > where I can get some of the blue glowing moon crystals this would also > be helpful. I am however concerned with the high level of radiation these > crystals give off, if you could provide a shielding or other crystals > which give off a north polarized vortex field just as strong or strong > enough to make a watch stop this would be great. > > > Only if you have this technology and can help me exactly as mentioned > please send me a (SEPARATE) email to: IneedTimeTravel at aol.com > > Please do not reply if your an evil alien! > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sat Mar 30 13:05:34 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 13:05:34 -0500 Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: Someone has finally woken up. What a surprise!!! Stephe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Skane" To: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Now here is an alien dream > All seems perfectly reasonable to me and I am sure he will soon find a way > around his relatively minor technical problems. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Duc De Montfort" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:30 AM > Subject: Now here is an alien dream > > > > I don't usually read or pass on things like this but you HAVE TO read this > > one.. > > > > I want some of the drugs this guy is taking... > > > > Mike > > > > PS I have replied as an evil alien telling him we know where he is and are > > coming to get him. > > PPS no not really.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: webmaster at dk.com [mailto:webmaster at dk.com] > > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 12:53 AM > > Subject: Aliens or Time Travelers PLEASE HELP! > > > > > > If you are a time traveler or alien disguised as human and or have > > the technology to travel physically through time I need your help! > > > > My life has been severely tampered with and cursed!! > > I have suffered tremendously and am now dying! > > > > I need to be able to: > > > > Travel back in time. > > > > Rewind my life including my age back to 4. > > > > I am in very great danger and need this immediately! > > > > I am aware of two types of time travel one in physical form and the other > > in energy form where a snapshot of your brain is taken using either the > > dimensional warp or an electronic device and then sends your consciousness > > back through time to part with your younger self. Please explain > > how safe and what your method involves. > > > > I have a time machine now, but it has limited abilitys and is useless > > without a vortex. > > > > If you can provide information on how to create vortex generator or > > where I can get some of the blue glowing moon crystals this would also > > be helpful. I am however concerned with the high level of radiation these > > crystals give off, if you could provide a shielding or other crystals > > which give off a north polarized vortex field just as strong or strong > > enough to make a watch stop this would be great. > > > > > > Only if you have this technology and can help me exactly as mentioned > > please send me a (SEPARATE) email to: IneedTimeTravel at aol.com > > > > Please do not reply if your an evil alien! > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Mar 30 16:42:55 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 16:42:55 EST Subject: Voice Print Sampler Message-ID: The tracks are listed inside the magazine - can't remember what page - have a read :-) Michael *sorry if this has already been answered - but I have yet to finish going thru my 475 emails today LOL ------------------ I know this was discussed a little while back, but I just got my copy of the Voiceprint sampler, and there are no tracks listed, just came in a plain sleeve. When I did a Winamp search, the artist/track list was confusing, It lists The Alarm as the band for every song? Does anyone have a complete track list for this cd? thanks bob (in sampler heaven) From mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM Sun Mar 31 12:00:44 2002 From: mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM (Duc De Montfort) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:00:44 -0500 Subject: AS IF they will listen but every sig counts! Message-ID: Dear Friends, I have just read and signed the online petition: "Petition to request that Yahoo Inc reconsider their decision to charge fees for pop mail, groups, and homepages" Here is what I said: ++++++++++++++++ Your plan to charge for services is flawed for many reasons: 1) you do not offer dial up service. 2) features such as web pages and email are available elsewhere 3) the people who do stay on will NOT make up for lost ad revenue. 4) it is borderline immoral to buy up all the competing discussion group services and then begin to charge for the very free services you removed from the marketplace. If you begin to charge me I will simply close up my email and groups find alternatives. Your policy of creating a Monopoly on the market in "groups" (by buying up all your competitors) then charging for them is probably worthy of trust busting investigations by the States Attorneys General. If I want to pay for something I can join AOL which has a much larger community. ++++++++++ hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/11213/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Best wishes, Mike Montfort _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 31 12:12:36 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:12:36 EST Subject: Blue Skin lyrics Message-ID: I listen to both those cd's regularly and have often wondered what the tiko-teko stare is - I have thought about asking on this list but change my mind in case I sound foolish fir having asked...... ooops!! slipped out... do'ooooohhh ----------------- Teko, Tiko, whatever :-) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 31 12:21:26 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:21:26 EST Subject: HW: Lab coat history Message-ID: You;ll get nay sympathy from me - self inflicted - that'll teach you to eat at McDonalds - won't it!!!! LoL -------------------------- But who was the arse with the gas mask at the front of the Coney Island High gig a few years ago? (The one where I got pissed out of my brain and ran into a few list members in McDonalds afterwards - they understandably didn't want to go to a bar with me, particularly after I staggered outside and threw up in a potted plant...) From cosmos1 at WANADOO.NL Sun Mar 31 12:28:49 2002 From: cosmos1 at WANADOO.NL (Andre Denis) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 19:28:49 +0200 Subject: bedouin tracklisting hawkestra In-Reply-To: <7f.23ddb3d7.29d89d85@aol.com> Message-ID: has anyone or can anyone confirm the actual track listing of the bedouin concert during the hawkestra night in october 2000. i have this but i want to know if it's correct and what's the title of the unknown song. thanks andre Bedouin Brixton Academy 21st Oct 2000 1. Vision Quest 2. Say Goodbye To Babylon 3. Dagger Dance 4. Unknown 5. Elric The Enchanter (part 2)/One Moon Circles 6. Demons In Denial/Arioch 7. Wings 8. Chasing The Dragon From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 31 12:44:51 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:44:51 EST Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: Sounds like that dude scored one of those rare bottles of Sandoz LSD 25 and misread the dosage - take 1 - 2 drops orrally - he thought it said drink one vial orally hmmmmmmmmm The only way I know how to shield ones self from the radiation emitted from those blue moonstones is to wear a pumpkin skin armor suit. (kidding) ps - tell that dude - that travelling millions of light years across space to probe the anal cavities of certain human specimens does not make them evil - I can't wait to travel millions of light years to go probe some aliens - and Im not evil ;-) k-pax -------------------- I don't usually read or pass on things like this but you HAVE TO read this one.. I want some of the drugs this guy is taking... Mike PS I have replied as an evil alien telling him we know where he is and are coming to get him. PPS no not really.. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Mar 31 13:43:57 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 19:43:57 +0100 Subject: bedouin tracklisting hawkestra Message-ID: Its As Above, So Below the title track of the new album Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Denis" To: Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:28 PM Subject: bedouin tracklisting hawkestra > has anyone or can anyone confirm the actual track listing of the bedouin > concert during the hawkestra night in october 2000. > i have this but i want to know if it's correct and what's the title of the > unknown > song. > thanks > andre > > Bedouin > Brixton Academy 21st Oct 2000 > > 1. Vision Quest > 2. Say Goodbye To Babylon > 3. Dagger Dance > 4. Unknown > 5. Elric The Enchanter (part 2)/One Moon Circles > 6. Demons In Denial/Arioch > 7. Wings > 8. Chasing The Dragon From wbrehm1 at COMCAST.NET Sun Mar 31 13:35:07 2002 From: wbrehm1 at COMCAST.NET (Will Brehm) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 13:35:07 -0500 Subject: bedouin tracklisting hawkestra Message-ID: I believe this is the correct track list: >1. Vision Quest >2. Say Goodbye To Babylon >3. Dagger Dance >4. As Above So Below >5. Elric The Enchanter (part 2)/One Moon Circles >6. Demons In Denial/Arioch >7. Wings >8. Chasing The Dragon From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Sun Mar 31 16:53:14 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (stephen lindas) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:53:14 -0500 Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: Well what if that Cat was right. Maybe he ate those Mcdonalds pickles or the Chicken special. Who says what evil is? I think he's catholic myself. STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Now here is an alien dream > Sounds like that dude scored one of those rare bottles of Sandoz LSD 25 and misread the dosage - take 1 - 2 drops orrally - he thought it said drink one vial orally > hmmmmmmmmm > > The only way I know how to shield ones self from the radiation emitted from those blue moonstones is to wear a pumpkin skin armor suit. (kidding) > > ps - tell that dude - that travelling millions of light years across space to probe the anal cavities of certain human specimens does not make them evil - > I can't wait to travel millions of light years to go probe some aliens - and Im not evil ;-) > > k-pax > > -------------------- > I don't usually read or pass on things like this but you HAVE TO read this > one.. > > I want some of the drugs this guy is taking... > > Mike > > PS I have replied as an evil alien telling him we know where he is and are > coming to get him. > PPS no not really.. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Mar 31 21:46:07 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:46:07 EST Subject: Now here is an alien dream Message-ID: Evil, or the satanic scene, is an invention of the catholic church - the satanic bible was practically written by the paranoid priests of old times. Before the catholic church there was no satanic religion as it stands today. Or am I thinking of the McDonalds chain? I often get those three confused. ---------------------- Well what if that Cat was right. Maybe he ate those Mcdonalds pickles or the Chicken special. Who says what evil is? I think he's catholic myself. STEPHE From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Mar 31 23:15:42 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 23:15:42 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 3/30/02 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR Send an e-mail in advance regarding requests, so I can bring it over to the psychedelic dungeon in time... thanks, Chuck (New Acquisitions to be featured next week--La Dusseldorf, Salamander, Kombinat M, Omnia Opera...along w/the usual...) 3/30/02 1.Hawkwind-- "Uncle Sam's On Mars" (P.X.R. 5; Virgin/Charisma) 2.Neutral Milk Hotel-- "Ghost/Untitled Instrumental" (In the Aeroplane Over the Sea; Merge) 3.Brainticket-- "Brainticket Pt. 1" (Cottonwood Hill; Bellaphon) 4.Helios Creed-- "XL 35" (Kiss to the Brain; Amphetamine Reptile) 5.Census of Hallucinations-- "Floating Away" (Sixth Sense; Stone Premonitions ) 6.Krom Lek-- title-track (Collective Conscience; Stone Premonitions) 7.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Beyond the Light" (Definitive Unsolved Mysteries; Stone Premonitions) 8.Plexus-- "Telephone Noir" (ST'd; Mother West) 9.Flowchart-- "Shun to Wonder" (Multi-personality Table-top Vacation; Carrot Top) 10.Yeti-- "Go Like This" (Things to Come...; Two Ohm Hop) 11.Magma-- "Nono" (Attahk; Tomato/Charly/Decal) 12.Voco Kesh-- Track #5 (Smile! And Point at the Mountain?; Drag City) 13.Kingston Wall-- "We Cannot Move" (II; Zen Garden Oy) 14.Spirits Burnring-- "New Spell" (Reflections in a Radio Shower; Musea/Gazul) 15.Alien Dream-- "Alien Warp" (Dogon Dance) 16.Farflung-- "The Nation" (When Science Fails; Falcata-Galia/Transparency) 17.Salaryman-- "Burning at the Stake" (ST'd; 12 Inch Records) 18.Asha Vida-- "Improvisation #1" (As One of One; Icon) 19.Fuxa-- "Some Soviet Station/Convective Envelope" (Accretion; Mind Expansion) 20.Thumbtack Smoothie-- "Now Since Then" (Electrickitchentableland; Manic Obsessive) 21.Can/Sun Ra mix-- "Cutaway"/"Scene 1, Take 1" (Unlimited Edition/Solar Myth Approach ) 22.Subtle-- "Boxgod" (Summer) 23.Can-- "Little Star of Bethlehem" (Delay 1968; Mute/Spoon) 24.Hawkwind-- "We Do It " (Text of Festival; Illuminated) thanks, Chuck