From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jul 1 11:39:53 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:39:53 +0800 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 Message-ID: Hi What was the version released on video like, & is the Gong material on it good? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Ferguson" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:36 AM Subject: Re: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 > Hi Folks, > > Sorry to say that neither the long version ( b&W) or the short version ( > colour) contain any Hawkwind Live. > > The long version does contain some stonking Pink Faires in full flow & > Fairport Convension come across as some right dodgy geezers......but alas no > Wind... > > Perhaps the band have the material ???? > > Dave got any rare footage you want to share with us > > Love & Peace Iain.. > > PS to those that are expecting disks, they are being done honest guv.... Time > slips slipps slippps slippps slippps > > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Jul 1 11:37:16 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:37:16 +0800 Subject: HW: Cover Versions Message-ID: > William Duffy writes: > > > > dave hall writes: > > > > > > > Ace of Wands! Is that from about 75. I remember one episode when the > > faces > > > > of cards turned into the faces of Egyptian mummies. Phoenix 5 anyone? > > > > > > The one with The Return of Robbie the Robot from Forbidden Planet? Yeah, > > > I remember that. > > > > > That was Lost in Space. Pheonix 5 was an Australian SF series. > > Lost in Space the movie yeah. I'm sure that Phoenix Five had the same > robot. > It was Lost in Space TV series that Robbie was in. I think the episode was called Battle of the Robots, or something like that. Pheonix 5 is highly unlikely to have it the same robot in it, but may have had something similar? The only other show Robbie was in was one of those anthology shows, like Twilight Zone & Amazing Stories. Can't remember which one though? William From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Mon Jul 1 11:55:32 2002 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:55:32 +0100 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 Message-ID: Hi William. The Video is much shorter running at 67mins. Gong play "tried so hard" from camembert electrique. But its in sound track mode and not live on the stage. Theres no live footage on the long version either.... Gong are just releasing the Glastonbury set on CD.... The tune actually comes up whilst looking at a bunch of NUTTERS getting all naked like abunch of hippies in the fields around the site. Its like they're on drugs or summit... God what bunch of weirdo freaks....... It wouldnt happen round our way... I tell you that Eavis has got some explaining to do....he lets these kids onto his farm... and all they do is get fucked up on music and drugs.... it aint right I tell you... it aint right....you'd have thought an old man like that would know better than to invite the youth of today round his gaff... And him being a church goer as well... Morally upright citizen No1. xl5 at IINET.NET.AU wrote: >Hi > >What was the version released on video like, & is the Gong material on it >good? > >William > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Iain Ferguson" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:36 AM >Subject: Re: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 > > >>Hi Folks, >> >>Sorry to say that neither the long version ( b&W) or the short version ( >>colour) contain any Hawkwind Live. >> >>The long version does contain some stonking Pink Faires in full flow & >>Fairport Convension come across as some right dodgy geezers......but alas >> >no > >>Wind... >> >>Perhaps the band have the material ???? >> >>Dave got any rare footage you want to share with us >> >>Love & Peace Iain.. >> >>PS to those that are expecting disks, they are being done honest guv.... >> >Time > >>slips slipps slippps slippps slippps >> >> From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jul 1 15:34:30 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:34:30 -0400 Subject: Lost in which Space? Message-ID: Is there 2 Lost in Space shows? The one I remember had, Dr Smith, Will Robinson and the Robot(just called Robot I think). The Ship was the Jupiter 2. Is this a DIFFERENT SHOW? Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:37 AM Subject: Re: HW: Cover Versions > > William Duffy writes: > > > > > > dave hall writes: > > > > > > > > > Ace of Wands! Is that from about 75. I remember one episode when the > > > faces > > > > > of cards turned into the faces of Egyptian mummies. Phoenix 5 > anyone? > > > > > > > > The one with The Return of Robbie the Robot from Forbidden Planet? > Yeah, > > > > I remember that. > > > > > > > That was Lost in Space. Pheonix 5 was an Australian SF series. > > > > Lost in Space the movie yeah. I'm sure that Phoenix Five had the same > > robot. > > > > It was Lost in Space TV series that Robbie was in. I think the episode was > called Battle of the Robots, or something like that. Pheonix 5 is highly > unlikely to have it the same robot in it, but may have had something > similar? The only other show Robbie was in was one of those anthology shows, > like Twilight Zone & Amazing Stories. Can't remember which one though? > > William From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 1 16:22:51 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:22:51 -0500 Subject: HW: Hastings Pubs Message-ID: Hey, Anyone know any good pre gig pubs in hastings near the pier? Rich W From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jul 1 17:16:39 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:16:39 -0500 Subject: OFF: testing Message-ID: Hiya folks, Just checking for list health. I've not gotten my previous post yet. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 1 17:20:32 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:20:32 +0100 Subject: Lost in which Space? Message-ID: That's the one! But, as discussed, Robbie from FP did appear in an episode. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: Lost in which Space? > Is there 2 Lost in Space shows? The one I remember had, Dr Smith, Will > Robinson and the Robot(just called Robot I think). The Ship was the Jupiter > 2. Is this a DIFFERENT SHOW? Cheers STEPHE From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jul 1 17:22:46 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:22:46 -0500 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Hey folks, (forgive me if this goes up twice. I've not seen my prior post yet.) Anyone interested in getting boc-l folk together during the fest for general hanging out and chilling? ...and how will we recognize other list folk? I never got a nethawks shirt, so that won't do for me. Ideas? Thx, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jul 1 17:48:05 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:48:05 -0400 Subject: Lost in which Space? Message-ID: I haven't seen them about 30+ years. Loved them as a kid, but can't recall Robbie. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Lost in which Space? > That's the one! But, as discussed, Robbie from FP did appear in an episode. > > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:34 PM > Subject: Lost in which Space? > > > > Is there 2 Lost in Space shows? The one I remember had, Dr Smith, Will > > Robinson and the Robot(just called Robot I think). The Ship was the > Jupiter > > 2. Is this a DIFFERENT SHOW? Cheers STEPHE From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jul 1 17:49:23 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:49:23 -0400 Subject: fest meet? Message-ID: Possibly, I was planning on meeting and hanging with truckloads of folk. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: HW: fest meet? > Hey folks, > > (forgive me if this goes up twice. I've not seen my prior post yet.) > > Anyone interested in getting boc-l folk together during the fest > for general hanging out and chilling? > > ...and how will we recognize other list folk? I never got a nethawks > shirt, so that won't do for me. Ideas? > > Thx, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 1 17:46:07 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:46:07 +0100 Subject: Lost in which Space? Message-ID: He was only in one episode, I think, and not by name. It was only a case of re-using an existing robot costume for the sake of cheapness, I'd have thought. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Lost in which Space? > I haven't seen them about 30+ years. Loved them as a kid, but can't recall > Robbie. Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Lee" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 5:20 PM > Subject: Re: Lost in which Space? > > > > That's the one! But, as discussed, Robbie from FP did appear in an > episode. > > > > Nick > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephe Lindas" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:34 PM > > Subject: Lost in which Space? > > > > > > > Is there 2 Lost in Space shows? The one I remember had, Dr Smith, Will > > > Robinson and the Robot(just called Robot I think). The Ship was the > > Jupiter > > > 2. Is this a DIFFERENT SHOW? Cheers STEPHE From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 1 17:53:23 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:53:23 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: I will be the guy with the mixing desk and 8 track recorder:). Cheers, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:22 PM Subject: HW: fest meet? > Hey folks, > > (forgive me if this goes up twice. I've not seen my prior post yet.) > > Anyone interested in getting boc-l folk together during the fest > for general hanging out and chilling? > > ...and how will we recognize other list folk? I never got a nethawks > shirt, so that won't do for me. Ideas? > > Thx, > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jul 1 16:48:39 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:48:39 -0500 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Hey folks, Anyone interested in getting boc-l folk together during the fest for general hanging out and chilling? ...and how will we recognize other list folk? I never got a nethawks shirt, so that won't do for me. Ideas? Thx, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From youless at LVCM.COM Mon Jul 1 21:41:33 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:41:33 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Good idea, Arin. I vote in favour. I suggested badges once before (for Canterbury) & the idea met with little favour, understandably! Any kind of HW t-shirt other than the Nethawks one is unlikely to be effective....wear bandannas? Trousers tied with string around the waist? One thing we could do is put BOC-L stickers (e.g. hand-drawn laser printer labels) on our tents, for those who don't want to wear them on themselves Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:22:46 -0500, Arin Komins wrote: >Anyone interested in getting boc-l folk together during the fest >for general hanging out and chilling? > >...and how will we recognize other list folk? I never got a nethawks >shirt, so that won't do for me. Ideas? > >Thx, > >Arin From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 1 23:24:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:24:19 EDT Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: In a message dated Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:55:08 AEDT, Colin J Allen writes: > I will be the guy with the mixing desk and 8 track recorder:). That will make an interesting if somewhat risque outfit. From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Jul 2 05:21:05 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 05:21:05 -0400 Subject: HW: Hastings Pubs Message-ID: The Pig In Paradise White Rock Hastings Tel:- (01424) 439444 Situated:- The Pig in Paradise or just "The Pig" is situated right on Hastings Seafront opposite the now closed ice rink and in close proximity to Hastings Pier >>>> Hey, Anyone know any good pre gig pubs in hastings near the pier? Rich W From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Jul 2 06:11:52 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:11:52 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: The fact I have only had contact with people by email and through trading, I would be up for meeting up. Could we all maybe meet at the mixing desk noon Saturday holding a piece of paper with our name on? Not very orginal I know but just my twopenneth. Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 02/07/02 04:24 Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? In a message dated Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:55:08 AEDT, Colin J Allen writes: > I will be the guy with the mixing desk and 8 track recorder:). That will make an interesting if somewhat risque outfit. From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Tue Jul 2 06:55:07 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:55:07 -0400 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 Message-ID: >The Video is much shorter running at 67mins. Is Quintessence on this video? I met the singer (Phil "Shiva" Jones) this past weekend and he mentioned they had played the first Glastonbury Fayre and thought they were on the video release. Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 2 07:26:56 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:26:56 +0100 Subject: /Fest tickets In-Reply-To: mr_bt@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK's message of Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:43:37 -0400 Message-ID: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: > I am really looking forward to it. I was wondering what people have > arranged on this list about accomodation. Are a lot of people camping on > site or staying in hotels? We've hired a motorcaravan to tour around Devon and Cornwall for the week culminating in the festival. I'm quite looking forward to seeing The Eden Project too. See y'all there.... FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 2 07:30:27 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:30:27 +0100 Subject: /Fest tickets: FAO festie organisers In-Reply-To: Moonglum .'s message of Thu, 27 Jun 2002 14:54:33 -0400 Message-ID: Moonglum . writes: > I'm camping, bringing a tent from the USA but relying on UK Hawkfans > friends to supply some of the other necessary equipment like camp stove > etc.. There will probably be bed-and-breakfast accommodation available in > the surrounding area, I know some people are doing this in preference to > camping. It's cheap (?15 / $22 a night should be the max) but there is a > potential problem with transport from the B&B to the festival site. For that area in July, I'd book early to avoid disapointment. Everyone and their second cousin is running around Devon and Cornwall in the summer. Seems to me that the festie organisers might be advised to offer some tents for hire to our colonial cousins. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 2 07:41:45 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:41:45 +0100 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:55:32 +0100 Message-ID: Iain Ferguson writes: > The tune actually comes up whilst looking at a bunch of NUTTERS getting > all naked like abunch of hippies in the fields around the site. Its like > they're on drugs or summit... God what bunch of weirdo freaks....... Just got back from Eavis's gaff. What a nice bunch of mellow weirdo freaks and those nice Mean Fiddler people kept out all the criminals and saved us from crowds, queues and overflowing bins and bogs. All in all, an excellent weekend. ObWeirdest: Seeing a potential interloper coming down the field behind King's Meadow on Thursday night and then seeing an ornage vested guy run *up* the hill after him. "Hmmmm", I thought, "that's never happened before. I guess Mean Fiddler mean business." Top o' the mornin' to all those security guys who made it a great festival again. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 2 07:43:06 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:43:06 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:22:46 -0500 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Hey folks, > > (forgive me if this goes up twice. I've not seen my prior post yet.) > > Anyone interested in getting boc-l folk together during the fest > for general hanging out and chilling? > > ...and how will we recognize other list folk? I never got a nethawks > shirt, so that won't do for me. Ideas? I'll see if I can organise some sort of flag outside our gaff if that'll do? FoFP From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Tue Jul 2 09:38:55 2002 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:38:55 +0100 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 Message-ID: Hi Mike, First time I've not gone since 1981 actually..... I just got fed up with the crowds, the thieves, the aggression, the Constant all night 4/4 beat from the Glade, the constant wittering of e-heads all-night long, and the general dodgy geezers looking to turn a trick at any opertunity.... So whats the low down, was it better that the last few? Was the festie noticeably smaller, what was the crowds like round the site. did the Dance music 4/4 beats go on all night ( oh i long for the old days when it was the best dub reggae from the Dub tent ontop of the farm by the old enterance).Was there any tent space... Is avalon still the best place on the site ? As my friend said to me during the weekend whilst watching it on the box. You know that Glastonbury has changed, when you used to go you looked at the freaks, and realised how straight you were. Now you go and you've become one of the freaks... it just aint the same. What was the street drug, still E ? Regards iain fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK wrote: >Iain Ferguson writes: > >> The tune actually comes up whilst looking at a bunch of NUTTERS getting >>all naked like abunch of hippies in the fields around the site. Its like >>they're on drugs or summit... God what bunch of weirdo freaks....... >> > >Just got back from Eavis's gaff. What a nice bunch of mellow weirdo >freaks and those nice Mean Fiddler people kept out all the criminals and >saved us from crowds, queues and overflowing bins and bogs. All in all, >an excellent weekend. > >ObWeirdest: Seeing a potential interloper coming down the field behind >King's Meadow on Thursday night and then seeing an ornage vested guy run >*up* the hill after him. "Hmmmm", I thought, "that's never happened >before. I guess Mean Fiddler mean business." > >Top o' the mornin' to all those security guys who made it a great >festival again. > >FoFP > From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Tue Jul 2 09:54:07 2002 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:54:07 +0100 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 Message-ID: Good question, not watched the vid for sometime. They are listed on the box, their music is definately on it and I think they are filmed, but not 100%. BTW If you do a search for Glastonbury on EBAY.CO.UK you come up with the video version for sale all the time, a shop in the UK has lots of copies for sale.Its very cheap, got my copy from there a while ago, ?4.99. Always looking for the long version ( pink Faries on it ). Regards Iain jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM wrote: >>The Video is much shorter running at 67mins. >> > >Is Quintessence on this video? I met the singer (Phil "Shiva" Jones) this >past weekend and he mentioned they had played the first Glastonbury Fayre >and thought they were on the video release. > >Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 2 09:59:14 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:59:14 +0100 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 In-Reply-To: Iain Ferguson's message of Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:38:55 +0100 Message-ID: Iain Ferguson writes: > Hi Mike, > > First time I've not gone since 1981 actually..... > I just got fed up with the crowds, the thieves, the aggression, the > Constant all night 4/4 beat from the Glade, the constant wittering of > e-heads all-night long, and the general dodgy geezers looking to turn a > trick at any opertunity.... Taking those objections in order: 1. The crowd was half of last time because 100,000 people who normally steal from charity couldn't get entry over the three fences before a van got to them. Seems that each van had a cop and the choice was "go to jail overnight or get on a bus to Bristol". This meant that there were scant queues for food or drink and that the bins and toilets mostly didn't overflow. The crowds were much lessened. I guess the only folks upset would be the criminals and the small stallholders who relied on uptake from folks who couldn't face the queues at the large ones. 2. The Glade were clearly under orders to turn it down a bit and after the 12.30am curfew did turn it down quite a lot. 3. The drugs that were being sold at the bottom of Lost Vagueness and elsewhere were pretty much restricted to hash truffles. Hash was sold by a few wanderers and I heard someone in the camping field shouting "Northern Lights" which I'd guess to be acid. Generally there were fewer people way out of their heads (certainly around the Green areas where I hang out). The atmosphere was constantly mellow and friendly. I saw no trouble at any time though I heard of a lot outside the fences in the car parks. There was a noticeable lack of bottled alcohol. There were few independent alcohol retailers even by the main drags (I had to go to the Crew Camping or Workers Beer Tents when mine ran out) and those were selling tins. > So whats the low down, was it better that the last few? Certainly for what I go for which is the chilled hippyish atmosphere and sitting in tented cafes watching small bands or sitting around fires chatting to whoever happens to be there. > Was the festie > noticeably smaller The site was in fact larger as much of the western car parks had been converted to camping. In general tents weren't 4 inches from each other and room was left for campfires. > What was the street drug, still E ? Maybe over by the Dance Tent. I never go over there. In the Green areas you can't walk 5 paces without smelling hash. It's now better than any of the last decade. They still need to sort out the areas outside the fence (over 200 muggings for tickets and some pretty bad violence) but maybe now that the criminals realise they can't get in they'll figure that the travel isn't worth the "profit" they can make in the car park. FoFP From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Tue Jul 2 10:24:32 2002 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:24:32 -0500 Subject: OFF: Lost in which Space? Message-ID: William Duffy: > The only other show Robbie was in was one of those > anthology shows, > like Twilight Zone & Amazing Stories. Can't remember which one > though? I seem to remember Robby appearing in a "Mork & Mindy" episode. Does this ring a bell for anybody? Checking the IMDB, there's _The Invisible Boy_ 1957: A ten-year-old boy and Robby the Robot team up to prevent a Super Computer from controlling the Earth from a satellite. -Tone From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jul 2 13:03:46 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:03:46 +0100 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 Message-ID: > ObWeirdest: Seeing a potential interloper coming down the field behind > King's Meadow on Thursday night and then seeing an ornage vested guy run > *up* the hill after him. "Hmmmm", I thought, "that's never happened > before. I guess Mean Fiddler mean business." > We didn't make it due to lack of organisation & it sold out. Despite all the hype, the fence didn't really look that much bigger this year. Sounds like the security were actually doing something this year. Nick From Mahkno at AOL.COM Tue Jul 2 13:42:35 2002 From: Mahkno at AOL.COM (Mahkno nestor) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:42:35 EDT Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: SW England is full of folk who hold their trousers up with string [-cf "The Wurzels" ] - so this tactic could lead to some unfotunate confusions. Rolling one trouser leg up above the knee is, I believe, a favoured stratagem in some circles. Though this is, perhaps, not sufficeintly subtle to gain wide acceptance. Why not simply shout - "Anyone here from BOC-L" ? From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jul 2 13:47:41 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:47:41 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? In-Reply-To: <96.28b65474.2a53400b@aol.com>; from Mahkno@AOL.COM on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:42:35PM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:42:35PM -0400, Mahkno nestor wrote: > Why not simply shout - "Anyone here from BOC-L" ? Or print another run of t-shirts... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Jul 2 13:52:20 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:52:20 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? In-Reply-To: <96.28b65474.2a53400b@aol.com> Message-ID: Mahkno nestor wrote: > Rolling one trouser leg up above the knee is, I believe, a favoured stratagem > in some circles. Where I'm from, that means you're "packing heat." Not necessarily the desired effect.... Brian From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Jul 2 14:43:36 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:43:36 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related Won't be able to miss each other ! Tone From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jul 2 14:57:19 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:57:19 -0500 Subject: HW: fest meet? In-Reply-To: <000201c221f8$77d13300$b21428d5@lucidzoo> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Captain Bl at ck wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? : :OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! : : :How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related : : :Won't be able to miss each other ! :-) I like both fest hats and t-shirts as an idea, but are we able to get a run of them in time for the fest? anyone have the nethawks design in electronic format? Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Jul 2 15:04:14 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:04:14 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: How about Clown noses? I have a badge that Michael Blackman made, I will be wearing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahkno nestor" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > SW England is full of folk who hold their trousers up with string [-cf > "The Wurzels" ] - so this tactic could lead to some unfotunate confusions. > > Rolling one trouser leg up above the knee is, I believe, a favoured stratagem > in some circles. Though this is, perhaps, not sufficeintly subtle to gain > wide acceptance. > > Why not simply shout - "Anyone here from BOC-L" ? From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Jul 2 15:02:56 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:02:56 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:57:19PM -0500, Arin Komins wrote: => anyone have the nethawks design in electronic format? Which one? There were two main designs, and one of those had several permutations... I have some of the original artwork... SOMEWHERE. (I scanned and hosted it for the original rounds of voting.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Jul 2 15:24:41 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:24:41 +1000 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: 1. A very silly pirate hat. 2.Secret Masonic style handshakes to confirm that person wearing wildly exaggerated pirate hat is indeed from BOC -L . Passholders should wear a cutlass in honour of their exalted rank. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arin Komins" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:57 AM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > :Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > : > :OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! > : > : > :How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related > : > : > :Won't be able to miss each other ! > > :-) > > I like both fest hats and t-shirts as an idea, but are we able to get a > run of them in time for the fest? > > anyone have the nethawks design in electronic format? > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Jul 2 15:48:50 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:48:50 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: I was thinking more of make your own........................Getting Dave to judge ! Tone From starfield at SUPANET.COM Tue Jul 2 15:53:42 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:53:42 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: That's the skinney Tone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Skane" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > 1. A very silly pirate hat. > > 2.Secret Masonic style handshakes to confirm that person wearing wildly > exaggerated pirate hat is indeed from BOC -L . Passholders should wear a > cutlass in honour of their exalted rank. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arin Komins" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:57 AM > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > : > > :OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! > > : > > : > > :How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related > > : > > : > > :Won't be able to miss each other ! > > > > :-) > > > > I like both fest hats and t-shirts as an idea, but are we able to get a > > run of them in time for the fest? > > > > anyone have the nethawks design in electronic format? > > > > Arin > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Tue Jul 2 16:42:26 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:42:26 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Won't we all look like Lemmy then? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:53 PM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > That's the skinney > > Tone > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Skane" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 8:24 PM > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > 1. A very silly pirate hat. > > > > 2.Secret Masonic style handshakes to confirm that person wearing wildly > > exaggerated pirate hat is indeed from BOC -L . Passholders should wear a > > cutlass in honour of their exalted rank. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Arin Komins" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:57 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > > > > > :Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > : > > > :OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! > > > : > > > : > > > :How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related > > > : > > > : > > > :Won't be able to miss each other ! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > I like both fest hats and t-shirts as an idea, but are we able to get a > > > run of them in time for the fest? > > > > > > anyone have the nethawks design in electronic format? > > > > > > Arin > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu > > > Manager of Web Systems Architecture > > > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > > > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 2 17:46:07 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:46:07 +0100 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Lee > We didn't make it due to lack of organisation & it sold out. Despite all > the hype, the fence didn't really look that much bigger this year. Sounds > like the security were actually doing something this year. > > Nick The fence wasn't any taller but it was very efficiently bolted together with reinforcing plates and poles as additional support and a flange at the top to prevent ropes being thrown over. It was, I confess, distressingly obvious whenever you were up against it but it definitely worked. I could wander around and chat to someone at the same time rather than feel I was struggling through some strange kind of endless rugby scrimmage. Eavis wants to raise ticket numbers by another 20,000 in the expectation that this would probably satisfy demand and remove the need for ticket touts. This might still be ok but without expanding the site I don't think it could take more than that. As a gesture to on-topicness there was a somewhat eclectic collection of ex-and related Hawkwind band members drifting around appearing in odd small Green Field venues. I even came across the Pyramids of SNAFU which I mention because it included Terry Ollis's son Sam Ollis who was playing drums with a great deal of delicacy and style I thought. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Jul 2 21:19:04 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:19:04 -0400 Subject: HW: a nice surprise Message-ID: About a week ago I made a couple of purchases from Amazon, of minor Hawkwind releases that I hadn't bothered to pick up before. One of them was the Undisclosed Files: Addendum album. A shrinkwrapped copy of this arrived on Friday last week. When I opened it I realised I had ordered the same thing twice; although the other copy I had ordered was a 2nd-hand copy from one of the Amazon Marketplace resellers... So yesterday the 2nd hand copy arrived and I was wondering which copy to send back, the new copy or the 2nd-hand copy. I idly flipped open the case of the 2nd-hand copy to find...that the CD was in fact a Griffin reissue of the Astounding Sounds Amazing Music album. I decided not to send it back :-) Steve From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jul 2 20:41:40 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:41:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Anybody need some? Message-ID: Hey... Somebody dumped a load of cool discs at Used Kids here in Columbus, OH recently. I've already snagged all the old Popol Vuh's, Spaceman 3's (though there's still a copy of Perfect Prescription there, which I already have, for $9...it's oop, so not a bad deal), and such that I needed. But there were eight or ten Hawkwind discs in there as well, all in the $7-$9 range. Things like the Glasters 90, the original HotMG, the newer Zones/Stonehenge double disc set (for $10), Undisclosed Files (I think), Black Sword (Griffin), CoH (Griffin reissue with xtra trax), Levitation and Live '79 separately IIRC, and a few more that I can't remember. Anything that anybody really needs? (No, there were no Warriors, Quarks, 25 Yrs. On's, PXR5's...nothing *really* rare.) Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra (thanks whoever you are!) From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Wed Jul 3 00:06:32 2002 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:06:32 +1000 Subject: OFF: Lost in which Space? In-Reply-To: <20020702.092454.242.0.james.hogard@juno.com> Message-ID: I couldn't resist having a look and I found this site for Robby. It mentions a few of the guest spots on shows. You can even buy your own replica. http://www.the-robotman.com/home.html Pete. At 09:24 2/07/2002 -0500, you wrote: >William Duffy: > > > The only other show Robbie was in was one of those > > anthology shows, > > like Twilight Zone & Amazing Stories. Can't remember which one > > though? > >I seem to remember Robby appearing in a "Mork & Mindy" >episode. Does this ring a bell for anybody? > >Checking the IMDB, there's _The Invisible Boy_ 1957: >A ten-year-old boy and Robby the Robot team up to prevent a >Super Computer from controlling the Earth from a satellite. > >-Tone From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Wed Jul 3 05:26:26 2002 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:26:26 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: EEEAAARRRR, I'm from the west country.... And in case anyone was wondering the reason for the string being applied round the bottom of the trouser leg its to protect you from rats from running up your leg.... And I can tell you as an old farm hand those Fookers bite !!!! all the same when your a city person with cycle clips or string round the legs it does indeed mean you've dropped your lugage.... Regards Iain "Wurzel" ferguson PS good night out round these parts is watching the Wazzocks, the only Wurzels tribute band. Cos sometime the Wurzels play outside of Somerset. blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM wrote: >Mahkno nestor wrote: > >>Rolling one trouser leg up above the knee is, I believe, a favoured stratagem >>in some circles. >> > >Where I'm from, that means you're "packing heat." Not necessarily the >desired effect.... > >Brian > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 3 07:02:59 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:02:59 +0100 Subject: HW Glastonbury Fayre on BBC2 In-Reply-To: Nick Lee's message of Tue, 2 Jul 2002 18:03:46 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Lee writes: > > ObWeirdest: Seeing a potential interloper coming down the field behind > > King's Meadow on Thursday night and then seeing an ornage vested guy run > > *up* the hill after him. "Hmmmm", I thought, "that's never happened > > before. I guess Mean Fiddler mean business." > We didn't make it due to lack of organisation & it sold out. Despite all > the hype, the fence didn't really look that much bigger this year. I had a close look at the fence. It may have been a foot or so bigger. The real differences were: A) There was a bendy metal overhang at the top. This meant that grappling hooks couldn't get a grip of the top of the actual fence and therefore were functionally useless. B) The whole fence was linked together in a way that would have taken several minutes work with a two foot wrench to undo. That prevented people coming through it. C) There was a flat and linked fence on the ground outside the main fence. This meant that any tunnel had to be at least 12 foot long, effectively preventing tunneling under the main fence. This was also used as a road outside the fence for the landrovers. There was also a complete smaller fence outside of this road. D) At the top fields there was also a fence inside the main fence and landrover patrols around this. This also prevented the sabotaging of the support posts for the fence by those inside. Added to this, the support posts were cross-braced to the bottom of the fence and so would have to be unbolted from it rather than merely uprooted ffrom the ground. Again this would require several minutes with a two foot wrench. Effectively this prevented the fence being knocked down from the inside as has happened in previous years. E) There were the usual watchtower guard posts with searchlights. They were all constantly manned this time. F) There were video cameras on post inside the fence. These were linked to a control room which advised where breaches were likely to be attempted. G) A helicopter with what I took to be an infrared rig flew around the fence constantly during darkness. I assume, but don't know for sure, that this would detect people even under trees? H) The passout system was more complicated. People had to have a wristband, the half of their ticket with the hologram, and some said they were doing those ultravoilet tattoos at some point as well. I) Folks carrying in what was perceived as more than personal use amounts of alcohol had it confiscated and any bottles spotted were also taken. Crew also reckoned there were Customs people on site. Certainly there was a lot less selling of alcohol on the main paths and I got some of mine under the table in the crew field. There was noticably less blatant selling of drugs other than cannabis and only hash truffles were really being sold openly. J) Didn't see any pets all weekend. I assume that they were strict about this too. > Sounds > like the security were actually doing something this year. That made the difference. The folks usually recruited by Glastonbury would often help people over the fence. I think they had orders to do this after 120 people broke their ankles one year. Roskilde is what's made the big change as I assume the politicians are keen to avoid something like that happening at an overcrowded Glastonbury. Undoubtedly 100,000 ticket-payers last year followed by 100,000 interlopers easily qualified as dangerous overcrowding. The security people were proactive about challenging people in fields outside the site or car-parks. If someone got over the first fence then a landrover was called to intercept them. Each one had a cop and so those caught could be arrested or offered a place on a bus to Bristol. According to festival radio, three people got across the main fence. One was intercepted between the main fence and the third fence and two got over to find they'd broken into the security compound. Of course they wouldn't know if someone had made it, however I spotted very few people without wristbands inside the site. The gates were charged by large groups several times, once with bottles and stones thrown and some security people injured. They had a "lock-down" procedure practiced for this where they basically shut the whole gate system at that point. Since the punters were then held up, they made their displeasure known to the miscreants. Inside they were very proactive about preventing entry to entertainment tents once they were deemed full, and also cleared people away from entrances. I only got to listen to XHawkwind from outside due to this. I also saw a large security team sweep the Sacred Field on the Monday morning. I asked what was happening and they delivered what was clearly a party line of "We're here to protect you, not prevent you having a good time" and was then told that they were after a gang that had been spotted raiding tents. I saw one arrest but they may have got others. I'm guessing that they must have cameras mounted in the camping fields in order to spot that kind of behaviour. I'd also heard from some crew that large fires had been banned. So all in all, it's the kind of security provided at other festivals except that there's still no checking for valid passes when moving between fields (something that makes T In The Park a nightmare of queueing apparently). My impression was that it worked very well for those on the inside. It was far less crowded and the risks from that very much lowered. Consequently the infrastructure worked much better and the toilets could be emptied before overflowing; the bins could be emptied and the litter problem lessened, and the fire and security trucks could get around because the tracks were kept clear from campers. Stewards and the radio declared some fields closed to further camping and directed people to the new campgrounds (used to be the west car parks) where there was still space. That lessened the risks of fires being too close to densely camped tents. The problems were clearly outside in the car parks. Those who were frustrated on the outside stole cars and stole from them. Depending on who you ask, between 200 and 400 people were mugged in the car parks for their tickets, money or both. I'd heard of people who wouldn't risk going to their car for stuff. Clearly this is something that'll need to be tackled by the cops and security next time. The worst incidents were someone being attacked with an iron bar in the car park and hospitalised; someone being hit and run by a stolen van in the lanes outside and found dead in a ditch; someone found dead in their tent (no other persons sought so I'm guessing overdose or something). There were a few thefts from tents, but nothing on the scale of previous years. Overall crime was down by close to two-thirds inside the fence, pretty clearly indicating that those locked out were more likely than ticket payers to be the source of crime. There were also three security guys arrested for beating up punters and taking their tickets from them. It's not clear what this was about but reading between the lines of what I've heard, there may have been some overenthusiasm about identifying those who'd mugged someone else for a ticket. By and large, Mean Fiddler have done a difficult job quite well. If they can crack the problem outside the fence then I think they'll finally have taken the festival back from the criminals. The two ways I can think of to do that would be to do what they'd said they would and stop cars or pedestrians getting into the lanes at all unless they can all show tickets, or to simply implement a no-passouts rule and have folks enter from the carparks once when they arrive and leave once when they depart. It'd limit people to what they could carry but for camping that's generally enough. That'd make identifying troublemakers in the carparks much more straightforward. FoFP From Mahkno at AOL.COM Wed Jul 3 07:42:29 2002 From: Mahkno at AOL.COM (Mahkno nestor) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:42:29 EDT Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 Message-ID: Nick lee writes appovingly of improved security arrangements and the succes of the fence stating "they have taken the festival back from the criminals." Well if there was something that made Glastonbury different from other offerings it was that the underclass could get in. This gave the event a much more dangerous anarchistic counter-cultural flavour than is evident at the corporate coca cola festivals-. The sop offered was inarguartion of the Left field. It remains to be seen wheter this will devlop into anything intertesting. This years glasto was dull and tame precisely because the forces of law and order were able to maintain thier grip. I cannot understand how sucess of police and security can possibly reckoned to be a good thing. From IainFerguson at AOL.COM Wed Jul 3 08:22:30 2002 From: IainFerguson at AOL.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:22:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 Message-ID: Hi, Whilst I'd like to agree with you. There are a couple of things that you need to take into consideration. Before 1990 and afterwards.. Before 1990 the festival was absolutely what a good festival should be. Women ( my wife and other friends wives) felt able to wander the site by themselves without worry and actually felt really safe. YOu could take a 15hour trip and lie on the grass and feel completely safe and not get distubed by anyone. You could walk around, go discuss poltics, even in the old days you could take a day trip to Stonehenge festival and come back the next day. You could take you stereo and put it in your tent and create a sound system for the weekend. YOu could even get some sleep sleep . After 1990 The thieves came, the muggers and the new chemical generation. Gone were the Mushrooms, acid, Cider & Hash , in came the Coke, E, Smack, and extra strength lager. No longer could you take anything of even the remotest value as is got pinched. women no longer felt completely at ease, you couldnt sleep, and in me & my wifes case 2 years ago got woken from our sleep by some "shithead freeloader" with a lit camping Gas burner threatening to torch the tent unless we handed over our wallets...... Suffice to say I gave him the wallets " which by the way i always empty at night " and he fucked off into the night.... Now im not a soft hands, but I was Fucking greatful for the security that night as they were straight into our tent 30 seconds after the mugger left asking what he did and took, they had watched him for a couple of minutes more then caught him... Thankfully he was dealt with and our already empty wallets returned... If the new fence stops people like this from getting to the festival, then I'm up for it. I don't need that kind of hassle, I had already had enough of that in the early nineties with the Brew Crew. It's more corperate now, but at least its still got some spark of independance unlike all the other major festivals this year. Pity I can't make the Hawkwind bash in July, as I'm already at another festival near shaftesbury that weekend. the Hawkwind bash sounds like it'll be like the do's in the 80's were you could beep out for a number of hours..... Rant over... I just wish the world was nicer really Mahkno at AOL.COM wrote: >Nick lee writes appovingly of improved security arrangements and the succes >of the fence stating "they have taken the festival back from the criminals." > >Well if there was something that made Glastonbury different from other >offerings it was that the underclass could get in. This gave the event a >much more dangerous anarchistic counter-cultural flavour than is evident at >the corporate coca cola festivals-. The sop offered was inarguartion of the >Left field. It remains to be seen wheter this will devlop into anything >intertesting. > >This years glasto was dull and tame precisely because the forces of law and >order were able to maintain thier grip. I cannot understand how sucess of >police and security can possibly reckoned to be a good thing. > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 3 09:22:15 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:22:15 +0100 Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 In-Reply-To: Mahkno nestor's message of Wed, 3 Jul 2002 07:42:29 EDT Message-ID: Mahkno nestor writes: > Nick lee writes appovingly of improved security arrangements and the succes > of the fence stating "they have taken the festival back from the criminals." > > Well if there was something that made Glastonbury different from other > offerings it was that the underclass could get in. This gave the event a > much more dangerous anarchistic counter-cultural flavour than is evident at > the corporate coca cola festivals-. The sop offered was inarguartion of the > Left field. It remains to be seen wheter this will devlop into anything > intertesting. > > This years glasto was dull and tame precisely because the forces of law and > order were able to maintain thier grip. I cannot understand how sucess of > police and security can possibly reckoned to be a good thing. Perhaps because there are those of us who find little countercultural or appealing about tent-theft, assault, rape and murder. I can understand that mileages do vary. However if someone gets some frisson from the idea that they might be raped or assaulted, they could always go for a nighttime walk in several of our major cities. As for the underclass, they can get in as easily as any of us. All they have to do is either buy a ticket or work afterwards as litter-collectors. Given that crime dropped by two thirds while attendance dropped by half, this suggests that those locked out were nearly twice as likely to commit crime as those paying to get in. Given this, there's precious little incentive for the rest of us to subsidise their stay merely for the rather dubious benefit of their company. If they want people to pay for their company they should get honest jobs as whores. FoFP From Mahkno at AOL.COM Wed Jul 3 09:53:02 2002 From: Mahkno at AOL.COM (Mahkno nestor) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:53:02 EDT Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 Message-ID: In a message dated 03/07/2002 14:32:01 GMT Daylight Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > there's precious little incentive for the rest of us to subsidise > their stay merely for the rather dubious benefit of their company. > > Divide and Rule? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 3 10:08:49 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:08:49 +0100 Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 In-Reply-To: Mahkno nestor's message of Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:53:02 EDT Message-ID: Mahkno nestor writes: > In a message dated 03/07/2002 14:32:01 GMT Daylight Time, > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > > > there's precious little incentive for the rest of us to subsidise > > their stay merely for the rather dubious benefit of their company. > Divide and Rule? I'm an anarchocapitalist. I've no interest in ruling anyone but myself and I'm opposed in principle to any political rule other than between consenting adults. I hadn't expected to have to explain in detail but this isn't workers versus bosses or rich versus poor. As I've already pointed out, those who are poor can enter Glastonbury legitimately simply by offering to pick up litter afterwards or do stewarding during. There's absolutely no conspiracy to keep anyone below a certain means away from the party. The only divide we're talking about is the divide between people who will respect each other as individuals and extend that respect to such privacy as they have inside their tent and to the property they store there, and the people who believe that they have some right, by dint of threat or force, to help themselves to that property, or to the persons themselves for purposes of violent entertainment or forced sexual congress. It seems to me that any self (and other) respecting anarchist (of whatever flavour), leftist, countercultural hippy or just general reasonable person would prefer to be counted in the first category and would prefer not to spend time with those who regard threat or violence, rather than debate and cooperation, to be the acceptable means of interaction with others. If you have some point to make at odds with this, then perhaps there really is a disagreement here. However criminals do not equate to the "underclass", the "poor" or any other politically convenient group and to suggest otherwise can only be a deep insult to the group concerned. In short, the fence is there to keep out criminals. The evidence is solid enough to indicate that this is achieved by keeping out those who want to get in without paying. After all, if they want to get in without paying, they're stating by their very actions that they're happy to steal from Water Aid, a charity with documented records of lives saved. If they don't give a damn about the lives of the very poorest in the world, it's hardly reasonable to expect them to respect someone's radio or their right to say "No!". The fence kept the right people out and the disproportionate fall in the crime statistics prove it. Let's just hope they can extend it to the car parks next year. FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 3 10:20:27 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:20:27 EDT Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 In-Reply-To: <200207031408.PAA24497@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 3 Jul 2002, at 15:08, M Holmes wrote: > However criminals do not equate to the "underclass", the "poor" or any > other politically convenient group and to suggest otherwise can only > be a deep insult to the group concerned. Yeah, the big boys at Enron and World Com are all school tie fellas with impressive pedigrees, but that didn't stop them from being thieving bastards! theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 3 10:52:14 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:52:14 +0100 Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson's message of Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:20:27 EDT Message-ID: Ted Jackson writes: > > However criminals do not equate to the "underclass", the "poor" or any > > other politically convenient group and to suggest otherwise can only > > be a deep insult to the group concerned. > Yeah, the big boys at Enron and World Com are all school tie fellas > with impressive pedigrees, but that didn't stop them from being > thieving bastards! What amazes me in the case of corporate CEO's is not just the theft but the level of greed required to go after another couple of hundred million when options have already put that much in your bank account. When they let Clinton walk from the perjury rap, these guys took note that nobody goes to jail. Gotta keep the aristocracy constantly thinking of guillotines or they start nicking the silver. FoFP From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jul 3 12:01:50 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:01:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:22:30 +0100, Iain Ferguson wrote: >Hi, > >Whilst I'd like to agree with you. There are a couple of things that you >need to take into consideration. > >Before 1990 and afterwards.. Iain- I agree with you 150%. I first went to Glastonbury when I was 16 and went every year thereafter until '92 or thereabouts. The last time I went it was a largely crap experience because of all the kinds of things you mention. I've never been back since- but having read the reports of this year's bash I would give serious thought to going again next time around. It's fair to say that the festival has lost some of its countercultural edge over the years but this is (to some extent anyway) precisely because of the growing numbers of those intent on theft and violence. Anyone who argues that these things lend some kind of "authentic" spirit to a festi is talking the purest bullshit. The other point is, whether we like it or not, the old-style counterculture has been assimilated into the mainstream to a far greater degree than was ever the case in the 80s. That is another reason why festivals in general are tamer (by which I mean less interesting, and less of an escape from the high street) than they used to be, at least in my experience. But that is a completely separate issue. Nick M From dave at CRAZY-DAVE.NET Wed Jul 3 12:59:38 2002 From: dave at CRAZY-DAVE.NET (Dave Briggs) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 12:59:38 -0400 Subject: Camping at Hastings Message-ID: Hi, I know a few of the folks off of this list are going to the Hastings Pier gig, Unfortunately i'm working so I won't be able to. I would like however to recomend a caravan and campsite with reasonable rates for those folks who intend staying in the Hastings area. Senlac Wood Holiday Park is owned by a couple of like minded friends of mine and They've asked me to post a message welcoming Hawkwind fans camping before or after the Pier Gig. If you are interested give Simone or Tony a ring on 01424 772782 Senlac Wood Holiday Park, Main Road, Catsfield, Battle, East Sussex, TN33 9DU Cheers Dave From Mahkno at AOL.COM Wed Jul 3 13:01:54 2002 From: Mahkno at AOL.COM (Mahkno nestor) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:01:54 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 Message-ID: In a message dated 03/07/2002 17:02:22 GMT Daylight Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > "Anyone who > argues that these things lend some kind of "authentic" spirit to a festi is > talking the purest bullshit." well I wholeheartedly agree with that and I hope that no one could have gotten the idea that I was advocating violence -absolutely not the case. If anything in my post suggests this I retract it unreservedly. however it does appear that on the back of the personaldafety/crowd control issues - which were real enough there has been a projection of state power into just about every aspect of the thing - stalls that used to have cans stella etc no longer do so - because not liscensed - customs and exise trying to nab anyone hawking any beer plain clothes drug squad - co-ordinated swoop on hawkers selling illicit substances etc -etc this sort of thing has nothing to with personal/crowd safety. It is an attempt to regulate simply to demonstrate power to do so. To show who is on top. As for spirit it seems to me that it does require a certain relaxation of societal norms - somewhat in the manner of meadieval day of misrule. The state will not countenace anything of the sort even in a restricted area for one weekend a year. Now as if on cue our Home secretary is proposing national ID cards! From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 3 13:11:16 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 13:11:16 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 In-Reply-To: <110.148eb39e.2a548802@aol.com> Message-ID: On 3 Jul 2002, at 13:01, Mahkno nestor wrote: > Now as if on cue our Home secretary is proposing national ID cards! Hey, come on over here! Our President says we're winning the 'war on terror' but that the war will last the rest of our lifetime--however short that may be! theo From Alan_Taylor at MADASAFISH.COM Wed Jul 3 13:49:21 2002 From: Alan_Taylor at MADASAFISH.COM (Alan Taylor) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 18:49:21 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest - anyone going from Scotland? In-Reply-To: <000901c22074$776e2ec0$2b53893e@default> Message-ID: Dave, I'm going with BA (!). they were cheaper than Go(I forget which others I checked) but I got a return with BA for ?69 all inclusive. Didn't find the BA web site very easy to use, the only way I could find out what I would pay in total was by buying the ticket..If it is any help- they quote outward and return prices separately but what they charge is the higher of the outward and return fares + about ?30 for taxes etc. I've just had a check on the BA site and their bloody prices have gone up already. Maybe it is still worth trying. Good luck Alan -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of dave hall Sent: 30 June 2002 21:27 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Hawkfest - anyone going from Scotland? Is that with Easyjet or Ryanair? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Alan Taylor To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 29 June 2002 18:00 Subject: Re: Hawkfest - anyone going from Scotland? >I am, but because I can only go from the Friday to Sunday, I am probably >going to fly from Glasgow to Bristol on Friday morning then hire a car from >Bristol. Then fly back on Sunday. Not the cheapest option... > >Alan > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of dave hall >Sent: 29 June 2002 15:54 >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: Hawkfest - anyone going from Scotland? > > >Anyone going to the festival from Scotland? Any chance of a lift - I'll help >with costs. > >Dave > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 3 15:06:07 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:06:07 EDT Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: How about those WW1 Officer helmets with the polished metal spike on top - that would be unmissable :-) In a message dated Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:45:20 AEDT, "Captain Bl at ck" writes: > OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! > > > How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related > > > Won't be able to miss each other ! > > Tone From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Jul 3 15:24:50 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:24:50 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: I have a medics helmet, but no chance on wearing it. Last time I appraised it, it was worth $900. What about Cat in the Hat hats? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > How about those WW1 Officer helmets with the polished metal spike on top - that would be unmissable :-) > > In a message dated Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:45:20 AEDT, "Captain Bl at ck" writes: > > > OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! > > > > > > How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related > > > > > > Won't be able to miss each other ! > > > > Tone From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Jul 3 15:30:47 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 20:30:47 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: :-) OK...........Yes But what about something a bit more Hawkwind.................. Alan's got the table cloth Lemmy's the 10 Gallon Bob's was always something military Keith's Muti-coloured top hat And of course who could forget................... Simon's wig Tone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:06 PM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > How about those WW1 Officer helmets with the polished metal spike on top - that would be unmissable :-) > > In a message dated Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:45:20 AEDT, "Captain Bl at ck" writes: > > > OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! > > > > > > How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related > > > > > > Won't be able to miss each other ! > > > > Tone From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 3 15:37:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 15:37:19 EDT Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Or a big freaky jesters cap complete with dingle balls that jingle :-) The skies the limit - In a message dated Thu, 4 Jul 2002 06:18:34 AEDT, Stephe Lindas writes: > I have a medics helmet, but no chance on wearing it. Last time I appraised > it, it was worth $900. What about Cat in the Hat hats? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > How about those WW1 Officer helmets with the polished metal spike on top - > that would be unmissable :-) > > > > In a message dated Wed, 3 Jul 2002 05:45:20 AEDT, "Captain Bl at ck" > writes: > > > > > OK................... lets get serious ! ! ! > > > > > > > > > How about crazy BOC-L hats..................Hawkwind related > > > > > > > > > Won't be able to miss each other ! > > > > > > Tone From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 3 16:44:11 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 21:44:11 +0100 Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 Message-ID: Well said the "anarcho-laminator"!! All the people who complain about high fences, tend to be the type who pissed off from Stonehenge and the surronding area leaving it full of their shite. Leaving it for others to clear up. Dave -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 03 July 2002 15:09 Subject: Re: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 >Mahkno nestor writes: > >> In a message dated 03/07/2002 14:32:01 GMT Daylight Time, >> fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: >> >> >> > there's precious little incentive for the rest of us to subsidise >> > their stay merely for the rather dubious benefit of their company. > >> Divide and Rule? > >I'm an anarchocapitalist. I've no interest in ruling anyone but myself >and I'm opposed in principle to any political rule other than between >consenting adults. > >I hadn't expected to have to explain in detail but this isn't workers >versus bosses or rich versus poor. As I've already pointed out, those >who are poor can enter Glastonbury legitimately simply by offering to >pick up litter afterwards or do stewarding during. There's absolutely no >conspiracy to keep anyone below a certain means away from the party. > >The only divide we're talking about is the divide between people who >will respect each other as individuals and extend that respect to such >privacy as they have inside their tent and to the property they store >there, and the people who believe that they have some right, by dint of >threat or force, to help themselves to that property, or to the persons >themselves for purposes of violent entertainment or forced sexual >congress. > >It seems to me that any self (and other) respecting anarchist (of >whatever flavour), leftist, countercultural hippy or just general >reasonable person would prefer to be counted in the first category and >would prefer not to spend time with those who regard threat or violence, >rather than debate and cooperation, to be the acceptable means of >interaction with others. If you have some point to make at odds with >this, then perhaps there really is a disagreement here. However >criminals do not equate to the "underclass", the "poor" or any other >politically convenient group and to suggest otherwise can only be a deep >insult to the group concerned. > >In short, the fence is there to keep out criminals. The evidence is >solid enough to indicate that this is achieved by keeping out those who >want to get in without paying. After all, if they want to get in without >paying, they're stating by their very actions that they're happy to >steal from Water Aid, a charity with documented records of lives saved. >If they don't give a damn about the lives of the very poorest in the >world, it's hardly reasonable to expect them to respect someone's radio >or their right to say "No!". > >The fence kept the right people out and the disproportionate fall in the >crime statistics prove it. Let's just hope they can extend it to the car >parks next year. > >FoFP > From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Wed Jul 3 17:57:27 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 17:57:27 -0400 Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 Message-ID: Alright Then, So there's been lots of discussion about security, civil liberties, the vibe etc. But hey, was there any acts worth seeing apart from the obvious. Did Rod rock or was he pure cabaret mince? Could Coldplay play it for real? For me, that is what went corporate about Glastonbury. There are too many NAMES and not enough festival rock 'n roll. How were XHW? Were they in tune or 'in vibe'? Mark From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 3 20:54:45 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Judge Trev) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 01:54:45 +0100 Subject: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 Message-ID: Well... xHawkwind were reasonable, Terry Ollis and Thomas Crimble were particularly good in the rythm section. Richie havens was fantastic, and there was this guy called Judge Trev who played acoustic in the Mandala tent, hippie rock and roll on the Las Vagueness roller disco stage, and a blinding country and western spot in the exclusive, evening dress casino restaurant. God, you should see him wiggle his hips, girls fainting all over the place etc, honest. What really got me was the rope cutter blade along the top of the new fence - designed to cut ropes - and the hands and wrists of anyone who tried to get over it! Trev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Glastonbury Fayre 2002 > Alright Then, > > So there's been lots of discussion about security, civil liberties, the vibe > etc. > But hey, was there any acts worth seeing apart from the obvious. > Did Rod rock or was he pure cabaret mince? > Could Coldplay play it for real? > For me, that is what went corporate about Glastonbury. 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Buggered if I know. I missed XHawkwind due to trouble with truffles and a previously arranged meeting with someone phoneless; Nodens Ictus didn't turn up and what with weddings and beer tents to attend, the only band I saw in the whole 4 days was the Osrics. Unfortunately I can barely remember a things about that gig. I did have a great time though. FoFP From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jul 4 11:00:23 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 11:00:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Nearfest Message-ID: Just got back from the Nearfest...Nektar kicked ass...big time!! Opened with Tab in the Ocean. They did all of Recycled...Remember the Future..parts of Journey..standing ovations after every song....Nellie the Elephant played live for the first time ever with extra percussionist doing the Calvert parts...finished with Finnicky Queen.....best show I've seen in years! Light show was real cool but muted due to extra lights needed for DVD filming...similar to the Hawks Live Legend vid.. Also saw Caravan...very pleasant set...Steve Hackett was lame IMHO (not my cup of tea) but the crowd loved em... Bill From youless at LVCM.COM Thu Jul 4 12:48:39 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:48:39 -0400 Subject: HW: website offering competition to win free CD Message-ID: Hi I received the following email which may be of interest to list members. I don't know this outfit (http://www.vip-24.com) and cannot vouch for their reliability / honesty. They are offering a competition to win a free copy of the Zones/This is HW Do Not Panic double CD. They appear to be a portal for other music vendors. I searched for Hawkwind and it turned up a long list of items for sale, with some rareties in there - but I would be wary. Does anyone have any experience of dealing with these people? Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- "A quick email to let you know that we are running a competition to win two fantastic Hawkwind albums all on one CD for the first time. 'Zones' was originally a top 40 album when it was first released in 1983. It was also the album that returned Hawkwind to the UK top 50 and re-established them as a major force in the rock world. 'This Is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic' recorded live at Stonehenge is the second part of this collection from the undoubted masters of science fiction progressive rock. Any help in telling people about the competition will be much appreciated. All the visitor has to do is visit our site at www.vip-24.com and click the 'Win new releases from Cherry Red' link on the first page for details. The site also includes the stock of over 80 traders. Out of interest, there are over 500 items for sale by Hawkwind. Let me know if you need any more info. Fancy trading links? Thanks, Rob VIP Administration Tel 0116 2244300 info at vip-24.com Visit the world's only online music fair at http://www.vip-24.com" From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jul 4 13:21:48 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:21:48 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? In-Reply-To: <001e01c222c8$2299bee0$351528d5@lucidzoo>; from starfield@SUPANET.COM on Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:30:47PM +0100 Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:30:47PM +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > And of course who could forget................... Simon's wig But then everybody'd have to wear sparkly green hot-pants too. Like *that's* gonna happen.... They'd sure stand out though :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 4 13:51:17 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:51:17 -0500 Subject: HW: website offering competition to win free CD Message-ID: They are a long standing record fair promoter in the UK. I suspect that you would take the same risk as ordering from any other second hand dealer on the net ;-) I would guess most of the dealers they are hosting would be their record fair regulars Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moonglum ." To: Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: HW: website offering competition to win free CD > Hi > > I received the following email which may be of interest to list members. I > don't know this outfit (http://www.vip-24.com) and cannot vouch for their > reliability / honesty. They are offering a competition to win a free copy > of the Zones/This is HW Do Not Panic double CD. > > They appear to be a portal for other music vendors. I searched for > Hawkwind and it turned up a long list of items for sale, with some rareties > in there - but I would be wary. Does anyone have any experience of dealing > with these people? > > > Steve > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > "A quick email to let you know that we are running a competition to win two > fantastic Hawkwind albums all on one CD for the first time. 'Zones' was > originally a top 40 album when it was first released in 1983. It was also > the album that returned Hawkwind to the UK top 50 and re-established them > as a major force in the rock world. 'This Is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic' > recorded live at Stonehenge is the second part of this collection from the > undoubted masters of science fiction progressive rock. > > Any help in telling people about the competition will be much > appreciated. All the visitor has to do is visit our site at www.vip-24.com > and click the 'Win new releases from Cherry Red' link on the first page for > details. > > The site also includes the stock of over 80 traders. Out of interest, > there are over 500 items for sale by Hawkwind. > > Let me know if you need any more info. Fancy trading links? > > Thanks, > > Rob > VIP Administration > Tel 0116 2244300 > info at vip-24.com > Visit the world's only online music fair at http://www.vip-24.com" From starfield at SUPANET.COM Thu Jul 4 15:11:20 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:11:20 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Now there's an IDEA...........Fish net stockings as well Tone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" To: Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 6:21 PM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:30:47PM +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > And of course who could forget................... Simon's wig > > But then everybody'd have to wear sparkly green hot-pants too. > Like *that's* gonna happen.... > > They'd sure stand out though :-) > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; > whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. > - Paul Schneider-Esleben From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 4 15:35:55 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 20:35:55 +0100 Subject: sir lurch Message-ID: Michael W Blackman wrote: > > Impressive recording, nonetheless :-) > Thanks ;-> Rat From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Fri Jul 5 05:21:39 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:21:39 +1000 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: With the fish still in them so you wont have to buy food. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > Now there's an IDEA...........Fish net stockings as well > > Tone > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Siegerman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 6:21 PM > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:30:47PM +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > > And of course who could forget................... Simon's wig > > > > But then everybody'd have to wear sparkly green hot-pants too. > > Like *that's* gonna happen.... > > > > They'd sure stand out though :-) > > > > -- > > > > | | /\ > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > | | / > > Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; > > whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. > > - Paul Schneider-Esleben From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Jul 5 05:38:29 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 05:38:29 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Well if you want to go that route, why not have Crabs. Everyone could wear baseball caps with propellors on top. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Skane" To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:21 AM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > With the fish still in them so you wont have to buy food. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:11 AM > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > Now there's an IDEA...........Fish net stockings as well > > > > Tone > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eric Siegerman" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 6:21 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:30:47PM +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > > > And of course who could forget................... Simon's wig > > > > > > But then everybody'd have to wear sparkly green hot-pants too. > > > Like *that's* gonna happen.... > > > > > > They'd sure stand out though :-) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > | | /\ > > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > > | | / > > > Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; > > > whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. > > > - Paul Schneider-Esleben From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Fri Jul 5 05:53:27 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:53:27 +1000 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Astra Wally he's a real mean cat He gets around with crabs in his hair... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > Well if you want to go that route, why not have Crabs. Everyone could wear > baseball caps with propellors on top. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Skane" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:21 AM > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > With the fish still in them so you wont have to buy food. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Captain Bl at ck" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:11 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > > > > Now there's an IDEA...........Fish net stockings as well > > > > > > Tone > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Eric Siegerman" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 6:21 PM > > > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:30:47PM +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > > > > And of course who could forget................... Simon's wig > > > > > > > > But then everybody'd have to wear sparkly green hot-pants too. > > > > Like *that's* gonna happen.... > > > > > > > > They'd sure stand out though :-) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > | | /\ > > > > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > > > > | | / > > > > Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; > > > > whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. > > > > - Paul Schneider-Esleben From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 5 06:55:23 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:55:23 +0100 Subject: HW: fest meet? In-Reply-To: Eric Siegerman's message of Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:21:48 -0400 Message-ID: Eric Siegerman writes: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:30:47PM +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > And of course who could forget................... Simon's wig > > But then everybody'd have to wear sparkly green hot-pants too. > Like *that's* gonna happen.... We could all wear lab coats of course... FoFP From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 5 06:56:23 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:56:23 EDT Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: In a message dated Fri, 5 Jul 2002 06:13:03 AEDT, "Captain Bl at ck" writes: > Now there's an IDEA...........Fish net stockings as well > > Tone Prepare for genewarp teehee From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 5 07:54:45 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:54:45 EDT Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: In a message dated Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:31:57 AEDT, Stephe Lindas writes: > Well if you want to go that route, why not have >Crabs. Everyone could wear > baseball caps with propellors on top. A sign to beware!!! Beware of the girls with fishnet stockings. No matter how hungry you are for sushi. But even more to the point!! Beware of the the girls with fishnet stockings and eight inch clitorises...... yecccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 5 07:59:20 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 07:59:20 EDT Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: How bout mini kilts? Really get the chicks worked up over them thar hairy hawkfan legs..... Im sure it would be a dashing stylish gesture In a message dated Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:56:13 AEDT, M Holmes writes: > Eric Siegerman writes: > > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:30:47PM +0100, Captain Bl at ck wrote: > > > And of course who could forget................... Simon's wig > > > > But then everybody'd have to wear sparkly green hot-pants too. > > Like *that's* gonna happen.... > > We could all wear lab coats of course... > > FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 5 09:09:56 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:09:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Festival tickets Message-ID: Hi Kris, sorry to have to mail you like this. I sent a cheque on the 12th Jun for 2 tix (?100=1 passport +1) and then a friend piped up almost immediately after that she wanted to come so I sent a second cheque on the 13th Jun for 1 ticket (?50, 1 visa ticket). I received one (passport) ticket on Monday and the cheque for ?50 has been cashed. The other cheque has n ot yet been cashed. I spoke to Tone on the hotline on monday and she said that she'd email you privately about checking up on my order. I'm wondering should I send another cheque? Tone said that the po box had been having trouble. I do appreciate the immensly difficult job you're doing between you (I've put on small gigs in the past and that can be hard work enough!) but its getting pretty close and I'm feeling like I've let my friends down over the tickets. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated! Sorry to have to trouble you about this and apologies for any confusion my multiple ticket application may have caused. Thanks again, Nick Lee Passport 1041 19 Emerton Gardens Stony Stratford Bucks 01908 263865/ 07818 208707 From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 5 09:22:31 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:22:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Festival tickets Message-ID: Sorry, this should've been off-list! > Hi Kris, > > sorry to have to mail you like this. I sent a cheque on the 12th Jun for 2 From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 5 09:50:37 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 09:50:37 EDT Subject: HW: Festival tickets Message-ID: Its ok - we all ate our monitors after seeing your private details They'll have to devise evil ways to pry the information from my steel trap mind. In a message dated Sat, 6 Jul 2002 00:29:00 AEDT, Nick Lee writes: > Sorry, this should've been off-list! > > > Hi Kris, > > > > sorry to have to mail you like this. I sent a cheque on the 12th Jun for > 2 From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Fri Jul 5 10:31:56 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 00:31:56 +1000 Subject: HW: Festival tickets Message-ID: Dont worry. Michael keeps his mind well hidden. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: Festival tickets > Its ok - we all ate our monitors after seeing your private details > They'll have to devise evil ways to pry the information from my steel trap mind. > > > In a message dated Sat, 6 Jul 2002 00:29:00 AEDT, Nick Lee writes: > > > Sorry, this should've been off-list! > > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > > > sorry to have to mail you like this. I sent a cheque on the 12th Jun for > > 2 From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 5 10:47:04 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 10:47:04 EDT Subject: HW: Festival tickets ot Message-ID: In a message dated Sat, 6 Jul 2002 01:27:44 AEDT, Steven Skane writes: > Dont worry. Michael keeps his mind well hidden. > So well, in fact, i often forget where i put it. ussually next to the keys - which doesnt help in my search much at all From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Jul 5 10:12:21 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:12:21 -0300 Subject: Devon Fest and meeting people Message-ID: On behalf of The One Eyed Bishops, I encourage anyone whoi sees us around campt to drop by and say 'hello'. Looking forward to meeting and partying with people..Cheers, Mike Burro http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Fri Jul 5 10:32:41 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:32:41 -0300 Subject: Festival organizers please contact me back burner Message-ID: Hi! This is Mike Burro in The U.S.A. I'm planning on arriving to the festival site on the 18th? Will there be someone there to let us in? Please let me know what's going on...Peace, Mike From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jul 5 12:58:31 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:58:31 -0500 Subject: HW: Bob Calvert Cricket Star Flexi on Ebay Message-ID: A copy of the Cricketstar Flexi has come up on ebay, don't see this very often at all, just thought I'd mention it in case anyones interested ;-) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=892040680 Rich W From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 5 13:53:34 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:53:34 +0100 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] 'War of The Worlds' Message-ID: This was posted on the 'other' list.... The site seems to imply that HW are supporting the show rather than performing the WotW itself but if its half as impressive as the site claims it'll be well worth seeing! Nick > Just a quick note re an advertisement that I saw in today Manchester Evening News, it states that the Mighty Wind will be supporting an adaptation of Jeff Wayne's musical version of 'War of The Worlds'. > Its to be held at Heaton Park in Manchester and sounds pretty cool, below is the link for the website. > > www.waroftheworlds.info > > Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but ive not really been reading the posts of late as ive been busy (no excuse) > > Cheers Justin From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Jul 5 14:22:29 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:22:29 -0400 Subject: HW: Cover Versions Message-ID: > At the risk of being 'on-topic', I wondered if anyone out there > had any idea for songs they would like to see covered by Hawkwind. Whoops, hope its not too late to play! Bob Calvert - On Line Husker Du - Data Control Judas Priest - Solar Angels Lucifer's Friend - Ride The Sky Deep Purple - Speed King (King of Speed) or Space Truckin (too obvious?) Black Sabbath - Into the Void and Hole in the Sky already mentioned, so how about Supernaut and Symptom of the Universe Marble Sheep - Like a Bird Motorhead - Make Em Blind (done up Time We Left style) Swans - New Mind (great riff but they'll have to lighten the lyrics) maybe Make Em Blind needs to lighten the lyrics too Godflesh - Xnoybis / Empyreal Can - Mother Sky (done up Loop style) Faust - Krautrock Hawkwind - Opa-Loka (not a cover I just want them to do it again!) InterGalactic Touring Band - A Planet Called Monday Stephan From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Jul 5 15:35:03 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:35:03 -0400 Subject: Glastonbury/XHawkwind Message-ID: Did anyone get a recording of this set? Please email me offlist. Cheers STEPHE From youless at LVCM.COM Fri Jul 5 17:25:21 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 17:25:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Cover Versions Message-ID: I hope so too. Good selection of tracks there. How about "Moving In Stereo" by The Cars? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:22:29 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >Whoops, hope its not too late to play! From novadrive at COX.NET Fri Jul 5 18:00:48 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:00:48 -0700 Subject: HW: fest meet? In-Reply-To: <002401c22201$8eae6260$1a0c28d5@lucidzoo> Message-ID: For a preview of my identifying headgear, goto here: http://www.imagestation.com/members/novadrive KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:49 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > I was thinking more of make your > own........................Getting Dave to judge ! > > Tone From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Jul 5 18:34:41 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:34:41 -0400 Subject: HW: fest meet? Message-ID: Yes, that headgear with dayglo jumpsuits. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KevinSommers" To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > For a preview of my identifying headgear, goto here: > http://www.imagestation.com/members/novadrive > > > KevinSommers > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Captain Bl at ck > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:49 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: HW: fest meet? > > > > > > I was thinking more of make your > > own........................Getting Dave to judge ! > > > > Tone From youless at LVCM.COM Fri Jul 5 18:54:42 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:54:42 -0400 Subject: HW: Devon Fest Weather Forecast Message-ID: See the BBC's 30-day weather forecast at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/30day.shtml "Fine, dry and sunny"??? These things are notoriously inaccurate. Aren't they? Steve From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Jul 5 18:59:58 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:59:58 -0400 Subject: HW: Cover Versions Message-ID: A few ideas: Muse - Plug in Baby Planet Gong - Opium for the People Stranglers - Five Minutes Here & Now - Telly Song Mark From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Jul 5 20:18:18 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:18:18 EDT Subject: ATTN: Dave Brock/Kris /Marion Message-ID: I spoke to the organizers of the Prog fest in New Jersey. They expressed interest in contacting you folks for a possible appearance at next years fest. Could you contact me off list with the applicable email addresses and such. I will pass the info on to the festival organizers. Best regards, Bill Stewart Stewartbas at aol.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 5 20:55:19 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 01:55:19 +0100 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] 'War of The Worlds' Message-ID: This is astonishingly interesting! Thank you! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Lee To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] 'War of The Worlds' > This was posted on the 'other' list.... > The site seems to imply that HW are supporting the show rather than > performing the WotW itself but if its half as impressive as the site claims > it'll be well worth seeing! > > Nick > > > Just a quick note re an advertisement that I saw in today Manchester > Evening News, it states that the Mighty Wind will be supporting an > adaptation of Jeff Wayne's musical version of 'War of The Worlds'. > > Its to be held at Heaton Park in Manchester and sounds pretty cool, below > is the link for the website. > > > > www.waroftheworlds.info > > > > Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but ive not really been reading > the posts of late as ive been busy (no excuse) > > > > Cheers Justin > From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jul 6 07:40:36 2002 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (filip) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:40:36 +0200 Subject: Mountain Grill Message-ID: hello Stephe, have a photo of it,can send it went there at 6 am in the morning before the stalls were in front of it. have also a photo of a shop called GONG in the same street. actual if anyone ones them: filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be filip ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephe Lindas To: Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:48 PM Subject: Mountain Grill HI FOLKS, Does anyone know the location/address of the mountain grill? Is it still called that? Cheers STEPHE From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 6 08:57:25 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:57:25 +0000 Subject: Mountain Grill Message-ID: >From: filip >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Mountain Grill >Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:40:36 +0200 > >hello Stephe, > >have a photo of it,can send it >went there at 6 am in the morning before the stalls were in front of it. >have also a photo of a shop called GONG in the same street. > >actual if anyone ones them: >filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be > >filip >----- Original Message ----- >From: Stephe Lindas >To: >Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:48 PM >Subject: Mountain Grill > > >HI FOLKS, Does anyone know the location/address of the mountain grill? Is >it >still called that? Cheers STEPHE How old is the photo? _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jul 6 11:42:28 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 16:42:28 +0100 Subject: Motorhead Message-ID: Have switched my web site at http://www.fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat around and renamed one of my recordings after several (!) people pointed out that it was of Motorhead NOT Kings of Speed and that they are not in fact the same song. O well, silly me :-< Rat From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Jul 6 11:32:10 2002 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (filip) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:32:10 +0200 Subject: Mountain Grill Message-ID: The photo is from the same year the Mountain Grill re-opend(or get the name back again),some 2 or 3 or 4 years ago? I know i've put the photo on the net right after i got back from london. anyway if you want the photo,no problem,just give me your e-mail and i'll send it filip ----- Original Message ----- From: alan day To: Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Mountain Grill > >From: filip > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Mountain Grill > >Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:40:36 +0200 > > > >hello Stephe, > > > >have a photo of it,can send it > >went there at 6 am in the morning before the stalls were in front of it. > >have also a photo of a shop called GONG in the same street. > > > >actual if anyone ones them: > >filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be > > > >filip > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Stephe Lindas > >To: > >Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:48 PM > >Subject: Mountain Grill > > > > > >HI FOLKS, Does anyone know the location/address of the mountain grill? Is > >it > >still called that? Cheers STEPHE > > > How old is the photo? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jul 6 12:08:19 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:08:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings accommodation Message-ID: Is there any hotel/b&b near (ish) to pier that anyone can recommend, or are planning to use? Someone posted detail of a campsite but I'd rather the comfort (and breakfast!) of a hotel. Cheers, Nick From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Jul 6 12:13:53 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:13:53 -0400 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] 'War of The Worlds' Message-ID: Hey The info/link to the War of the Worlds gig was put up on Mission Control a month ago......... *sigh*, *grumble*, *moan*....... it'd be nice to think that people actually read the stuff we put there occasionally - there seem to be loads of posts here lately asking about stuff that has been up for AGES....... eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....... rx From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jul 6 12:35:46 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:35:46 +0100 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] 'War of The Worlds' Message-ID: Fair enough. I visit that page fairly frequently and seen the mention of the WotW show but unless I'm mistaken the link has only been added pretty recently. Didn't think there was any harm in drawing people's attention to it. Until I'd seen that mail on t'other list the WotW show had sounded more like a possibility than a definite event. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Rx" To: Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [Hawkwind] 'War of The Worlds' > Hey > > > The info/link to the War of the Worlds gig was put up on Mission Control > a month ago......... *sigh*, *grumble*, *moan*....... > it'd be nice to think that people actually read the stuff we put there > occasionally - there seem to be loads of posts here lately asking about > stuff that has been up for AGES....... eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....... > > > rx > From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Jul 6 12:47:34 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:47:34 -0400 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] 'War of The Worlds' Message-ID: Hey ! Wasn't intended as a personal dig - :-} (why i snipped the original msg) It's just that recently, some people seem to be asking LOADS of questions on the groups that are up there as clear as day on MC. We provide this as a difinitive source of info to stop rumours and misinformation etc. . . . and it's updated virtually daily with new stuff !!!..... Perhaps we'll have to make stuff easier to find on the relaunch...... but saying that - we always try to keep all announcements and fresh info on one single page to make it easy to bookmark.... http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm 2 be honest the more people talk about stuff the better, but *please* dip into the updates page guyz ! thanx all Rx From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 6 12:53:18 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:53:18 EDT Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] 'War of The Worlds' Message-ID: Fear not. Many of us DO make regular visits and suss it all out ;-) In a message dated Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:14:10 AEDT, Rik Rx writes: > Hey > > > The info/link to the War of the Worlds gig was put up on Mission Control > a month ago......... *sigh*, *grumble*, *moan*....... > it'd be nice to think that people actually read the stuff we put there > occasionally - there seem to be loads of posts here lately asking about > stuff that has been up for AGES....... eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....... > > > rx From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 6 18:36:52 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 23:36:52 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest: Can't make it Message-ID: Can't make the festival. Couldn't get the time off work. It's a bit dificult to blag time off at short notice in the middle of summer as everyone is trying to get away. Anyway here's some thoughts: 1. Enjoy yourselves!!! 2. Do it again next year - more notice next time 3. Someone gonna film it (don't give the tape to Uncle Nik mind, arf, arf) 4. Any more gigs planned Have a blast Dave Kris et al. Did you ever get my e-mail registration? I never got a response - and didn't appear on the "rogues role of honour"! From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jul 7 17:19:20 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 17:19:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Space Rock show Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (July 7, 2002): We've just uploaded new shows from Aural Innovations Space Rock radio and The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown, including a special show dedicated to the electronic/electroacoustic ELECTROSHOCK RECORDS label. See the playlists below. The July issue of Aural Innovations will be online later this month. I'll be too wrapped up with finishing that to do more shows for a while, but not to worry... new Alchemical Radio shows are on the way from Terri~B and the Reverend Rabbit!! It is with heavy hearts that we dedicate our new shows to the memory of John Entwistle. The Copenhagen Space Rock Festival scheduled for August 31st has been cancelled. This fest had a real dream lineup and we hope that the organizers will at some time in the future find a viable way to bring these bands together for live performance. The CD compiling exclusive tracks from the bands is still on target for August release. Thanks for the effort guys!! Yet another new issue of the zine Modern Dance recently went online. Modern Dance covers a musical gamut with reviews ranging from the latest Hawkwind, Dave Brock, Motorhead, and Huw Lloyd Langton releases to the latest from Boz Scaggs and Aerosmith. Loads of indie stuff too. AND... a column from Alchemical Radio host the Reverend Rabbit. Check it out at: http://www.modern-dance.co.uk/ The latest issue of the great improv zine Improvijazzation Nation is online at: http://home.attbi.com/~rzzaj/zzaj56.htm Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio Show #52: General Playlist Purple Overdose - "Her Arms Embraced The Sun" (from Reborn) Shiva Shakti - "Shiva Shakti" (from Shiva Shakti) The Mooncow Project - "All & Everything II" (from Nandi) Phil Jones - "Didgeridoo Lyre Song" (from Samadhi) Juggernaut - "Monday Morning Blues" (from Juggernaut) CosmicEcho - "Spacephonics" (from Blue Void) Schwarz - "Punkadelic" (fromVarious Artists - Floralia Vol. 4 ) Sun Zoom Spark - untitled? (from In Stereo) Paradox One - "Alien Harvest" (from Dimension Of Miracles) Jones Ave - "Treadmill" (from Folk Art) Mountain Mirrors - "Field Of Grass" (from Voices EP) Vine Sweetland & The Forefathers Of The New Millennium - "Raga Bhanga" (from Sativa: Single 1) Vine Sweetland & The Forefathers Of The New Millennium - "Sativa" (from Sativa: Single 1) The Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown Show #12: Electroshock Records Label Special Artemiy Artemiev & Peter Frohmader - "Transfiguration IV" (from Transfiguration) Artemiy Artemiev & Phillip B. 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Be sure and check out our CD mail order catalog at http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Mon Jul 8 19:33:04 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 00:33:04 +0100 Subject: HW: website offering competition to win free CD Message-ID: yeh - hate to say it but VIP are fine fine fine - no probs there Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moonglum ." To: Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: HW: website offering competition to win free CD > Hi > > I received the following email which may be of interest to list members. I > don't know this outfit (http://www.vip-24.com) and cannot vouch for their > reliability / honesty. They are offering a competition to win a free copy > of the Zones/This is HW Do Not Panic double CD. > > They appear to be a portal for other music vendors. I searched for > Hawkwind and it turned up a long list of items for sale, with some rareties > in there - but I would be wary. Does anyone have any experience of dealing > with these people? > > > Steve > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > "A quick email to let you know that we are running a competition to win two > fantastic Hawkwind albums all on one CD for the first time. 'Zones' was > originally a top 40 album when it was first released in 1983. It was also > the album that returned Hawkwind to the UK top 50 and re-established them > as a major force in the rock world. 'This Is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic' > recorded live at Stonehenge is the second part of this collection from the > undoubted masters of science fiction progressive rock. > > Any help in telling people about the competition will be much > appreciated. All the visitor has to do is visit our site at www.vip-24.com > and click the 'Win new releases from Cherry Red' link on the first page for > details. > > The site also includes the stock of over 80 traders. Out of interest, > there are over 500 items for sale by Hawkwind. > > Let me know if you need any more info. Fancy trading links? > > Thanks, > > Rob > VIP Administration > Tel 0116 2244300 > info at vip-24.com > Visit the world's only online music fair at http://www.vip-24.com" From coral at APORT.RU Tue Jul 9 06:01:10 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:01:10 +0400 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: Hello all, just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the Festival because of decisions of Embassy. All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is this - mockery of Embassy? I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women in UK. What do you think about all these? I'm really very disappointed. Alisa "sick of politicians harassment and laws All we do is get screwed up By other people's flaws" From micci at SCI.FI Tue Jul 9 06:07:46 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:07:46 +0300 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival In-Reply-To: <000701c2272f$8ead8d80$31fc2ed4@ghostwheel3> Message-ID: Sad, VERY SAD! I?m very sorry to hear this. At 14:01 9.7.2002 +0400, you wrote: >Hello all, > >just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the >Festival because of decisions of Embassy. >All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from >Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't >found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was >interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know >what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in >getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring >additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival >being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is this - >mockery of Embassy? >I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women >in UK. >What do you think about all these? > >I'm really very disappointed. > >Alisa > >"sick of politicians >harassment and laws >All we do is get screwed up >By other people's flaws" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 9 08:18:11 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 13:18:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival In-Reply-To: Alisa's message of Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:01:10 +0400 Message-ID: Alisa writes: > Hello all, > > just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the > Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from > Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't > found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was > interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know > what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in > getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring > additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival > being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is this - > mockery of Embassy? > I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women > in UK. > What do you think about all these? Complete and utter bollocks. Anything we can do vis a vis petitioning email to the Foreign Office? FoFP From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 9 08:41:50 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:41:50 +0800 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: What terrible news! I feel your disappointment. What utter bastards!!!!! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival > Hello all, > > just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the > Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from > Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't > found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was > interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know > what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in > getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring > additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival > being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is this - > mockery of Embassy? > I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women > in UK. > What do you think about all these? > > I'm really very disappointed. > > Alisa > > "sick of politicians > harassment and laws > All we do is get screwed up > By other people's flaws" > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 9 08:38:04 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:38:04 EDT Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: I have only one thing to say.... THE BASTAAAAAARRRRRDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!! In a message dated Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:00:57 AEDT, Alisa writes: > Hello all, > > just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the > Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from > Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't > found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was > interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know > what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in > getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring > additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival > being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is this - > mockery of Embassy? > I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women > in UK. > What do you think about all these? > > I'm really very disappointed. > > Alisa > > "sick of politicians > harassment and laws > All we do is get screwed up > By other people's flaws" From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Jul 9 10:43:51 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:43:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: I'm very sorry to hear this bad news. I think they knew August 9th was no use to you, it's just a way of saying "no" without seeming to do so. But go back on August 9th, becasue you might then be able to go to the War of the Worlds gig on Aug 31st. I'm sure being young and single doesn't help; Immigration officials always suspect people of planning fake marriages in order to stay in the country. Have had that reaction in the USA (well, when I was young and single). Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:01:10 +0400, Alisa wrote: >Hello all, > >just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the >Festival because of decisions of Embassy. >All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from >Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't >found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was >interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know >what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in >getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring >additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival >being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is this - >mockery of Embassy? >I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women >in UK. >What do you think about all these? > >I'm really very disappointed. > >Alisa > >"sick of politicians >harassment and laws >All we do is get screwed up >By other people's flaws" From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 9 11:08:11 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:08:11 EDT Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: But is a visa necessary just for a visit? I didn't need one. Just had my ole passport. In a message dated Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:44:15 AEDT, "Moonglum ." writes: > I'm very sorry to hear this bad news. I think they knew August 9th was no > use to you, it's just a way of saying "no" without seeming to do so. But > go back on August 9th, becasue you might then be able to go to the War of > the Worlds gig on Aug 31st. > > I'm sure being young and single doesn't help; Immigration officials always > suspect people of planning fake marriages in order to stay in the country. > Have had that reaction in the USA (well, when I was young and single). > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:01:10 +0400, Alisa wrote: > > >Hello all, > > > >just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to > the > >Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > >All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from > >Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't > >found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was > >interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know > >what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in > >getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring > >additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival > >being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is > this - > >mockery of Embassy? > >I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women > >in UK. > >What do you think about all these? > > > >I'm really very disappointed. > > > >Alisa > > > >"sick of politicians > >harassment and laws > >All we do is get screwed up > >By other people's flaws" From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 9 14:48:28 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:48:28 +0000 Subject: Mountain Grill Message-ID: >From: filip >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: Mountain Grill >Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:32:10 +0200 > >The photo is from the same year the Mountain Grill re-opend(or get the name >back again),some 2 or 3 or 4 years ago? > >I know i've put the photo on the net right after i got back from london. > >anyway if you want the photo,no problem,just give me your e-mail and i'll >send it > >filip > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: alan day >To: >Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 2:57 PM >Subject: Re: Mountain Grill > > > > >From: filip > > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > >Subject: Re: Mountain Grill > > >Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:40:36 +0200 > > > > > >hello Stephe, > > > > > >have a photo of it,can send it > > >went there at 6 am in the morning before the stalls were in front of >it. > > >have also a photo of a shop called GONG in the same street. > > > > > >actual if anyone ones them: > > >filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be > > > > > >filip > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Stephe Lindas > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:48 PM > > >Subject: Mountain Grill > > > > > > > > >HI FOLKS, Does anyone know the location/address of the mountain grill? >Is > > >it > > >still called that? Cheers STEPHE > > > > > > How old is the photo? > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Cheers Flip"! I'd like to see it...goin to da fest? me and my wife'll be there...Cheers again! _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 9 15:01:32 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 19:01:32 +0000 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: >From: "Moonglum ." >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 10:43:51 -0400 > >I'm very sorry to hear this bad news. I think they knew August 9th was no >use to you, it's just a way of saying "no" without seeming to do so. But >go back on August 9th, becasue you might then be able to go to the War of >the Worlds gig on Aug 31st. > >I'm sure being young and single doesn't help; Immigration officials always >suspect people of planning fake marriages in order to stay in the country. >Have had that reaction in the USA (well, when I was young and single). > >Steve > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:01:10 +0400, Alisa wrote: > > >Hello all, > > > >just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to >the > >Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > >All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation >from > >Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't > >found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was > >interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know > >what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in > >getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring > >additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that >Festival > >being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is >this - > >mockery of Embassy? > >I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty >women > >in UK. > >What do you think about all these? > > > >I'm really very disappointed. > > > >Alisa > > > >"sick of politicians > >harassment and laws > >All we do is get screwed up > >By other people's flaws" So sorry again!1 My wife comes from Hungary, her freind who is a university student, was trying to visit her sister for the second time, (she returned last year) and was treated like a criminal @ Heathrow !She was sent back home in tears swearing she'll never set foot here again! The imigration SERVICE?? really get a kick out of humiliating peple!1 Try agian!! Moonglum's said it!!Hope to hear better news next time! Another angry Brit! _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 9 15:53:20 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:53:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: Mike, No point; given the timescale a petition would not be any use. Alisa: did they give you a reference number? If so, could you send it to me ASAP? Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: Re: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival > Alisa writes: > > > Hello all, > > > > just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the > > Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > > All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from > > Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't > > found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was > > interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know > > what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in > > getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring > > additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival > > being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is this - > > mockery of Embassy? > > I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women > > in UK. > > What do you think about all these? > > Complete and utter bollocks. > > Anything we can do vis a vis petitioning email to the Foreign Office? > > FoFP > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 9 15:52:00 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 20:52:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: Alisa, Unfortunately, this is typical of UK embassies. Their approach to visa applications is dreadful and this is a classic avoidance tactic. Every year I deal with several people who have been messed around like this and, I hate to say this, I have never known one case where the applicant has got what they wanted. UK embassy visa clerks are, in my opinion, some of the lowest forms of life (mind you, they would have said the same about me) and I am really sorry that this has happened to you. Best wishes, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival > Hello all, > > just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the > Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from > Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't > found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was > interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know > what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in > getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring > additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival > being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is this - > mockery of Embassy? > I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women > in UK. > What do you think about all these? > > I'm really very disappointed. > > Alisa > > "sick of politicians > harassment and laws > All we do is get screwed up > By other people's flaws" > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 9 16:34:29 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:34:29 +0100 Subject: "Spirit of the Age" help needed. Message-ID: Hi guys, Wonder if you can help a friend of mine on another list. He's after "Spirit Of The Age" as detailed below - and I was wondering if anyone had a copy spare for sale or trade. He can't find the bugger anywhere. If anyone can help, please drop me a line and I'll pass your details onto him. Many thanks, Cheers, Rich. (And, many thanks for all your best wishes following the wedding. We spent part of the honeymoon in New York, and this time I didn't manage to accidentally see Hawkwind. :-( Rest of the trip was fantastic though!!! You should all go and see Blue Man Group, any chance you get!) > > Right. What I'm after is "Spirit of the Age". This is complicated beacuse > there appear to be two Hawkwind albums called "Spirit of tha Age" (Three if > you include "Spirit of the Age - The Solstice Remix"). One released by > Virgin in September 1988 and one released by Elite records in October 1991. > (Neither are listed at HMV) I'm after the Virgin release with the track > listing as .... > > The Forge of Vulcan (Introduction Out-take) > Flying Doctor > Steppenwolf > Hassan I Sabha > Twenty Five Years > Jack of Shadows > PSI Power > Reefer Madness > Fable of a Failed Race > Highrise > Quark Strangeness and Charm > Back on the Streets > Kerb Crawler > Only the Dreams of the Cold War Kid > Spirit of the Age > > Anyone .....? > > Oook > Roger From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Jul 9 17:21:00 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 17:21:00 EDT Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: In a message dated 7/9/2002 4:08:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << UK embassy visa clerks are, in my opinion, some of the lowest forms of life >> except for the people who use someone else's HARD EARNED BIZ TRADEMARK for the their own illegal gains Bill Stewart From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 9 18:03:03 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 23:03:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: > > << UK embassy visa clerks are, in my opinion, some of the lowest forms of > life >> > > > except for the people who use someone else's HARD EARNED BIZ TRADEMARK for > the their own illegal gains > Aha! You saw the Bucks Fizz documentary last night as well then! Cheers, Rich. From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Jul 9 18:22:14 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:22:14 -0400 Subject: "Spirit of the Age" help needed. Message-ID: Hey,Rich well,i checked my usual sources (cdnow,djangos,secondspin,midnightrecords),and no luck. i know i got my copy from ebay last year,think about $15 + $5postage. how about the famous Andy @ cd services?? tim 8>)... ps:i'll keep an eye out(the left one)at the used cd shops i go to. t Richard Lockwood wrote: > > Hi guys, > > Wonder if you can help a friend of mine on another list. He's after "Spirit > Of The Age" as detailed below - and I was wondering if anyone had a copy > spare for sale or trade. He can't find the bugger anywhere. If anyone can > help, please drop me a line and I'll pass your details onto him. > > Many thanks, > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > (And, many thanks for all your best wishes following the wedding. We spent > part of the honeymoon in New York, and this time I didn't manage to > accidentally see Hawkwind. :-( Rest of the trip was fantastic though!!! > You should all go and see Blue Man Group, any chance you get!) > > > > > Right. What I'm after is "Spirit of the Age". This is complicated beacuse > > there appear to be two Hawkwind albums called "Spirit of tha Age" (Three > if > > you include "Spirit of the Age - The Solstice Remix"). One released by > > Virgin in September 1988 and one released by Elite records in October > 1991. > > (Neither are listed at HMV) I'm after the Virgin release with the track > > listing as .... > > > > The Forge of Vulcan (Introduction Out-take) > > Flying Doctor > > Steppenwolf > > Hassan I Sabha > > Twenty Five Years > > Jack of Shadows > > PSI Power > > Reefer Madness > > Fable of a Failed Race > > Highrise > > Quark Strangeness and Charm > > Back on the Streets > > Kerb Crawler > > Only the Dreams of the Cold War Kid > > Spirit of the Age > > > > Anyone .....? > > > > Oook > > Roger From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 9 19:10:26 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 18:10:26 -0500 Subject: "Spirit of the Age" help needed. Message-ID: Wasn't this reissued by virgin on CD with bonus tracks as Tales From the Atomhenge: The Robert Calvert Years? Think it was. Prolly one of the best Hawkwind compilations around :-) You might hav a better chance of picking this one up. I sold my copy recently. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 5:22 PM Subject: Re: "Spirit of the Age" help needed. > Hey,Rich > well,i checked my usual sources (cdnow,djangos,secondspin,midnightrecords),and > no luck. i know i got my copy from ebay last year,think about $15 + $5postage. > how about the famous Andy @ cd services?? > tim 8>)... > ps:i'll keep an eye out(the left one)at the used cd shops i go to. > t > > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > Wonder if you can help a friend of mine on another list. He's after "Spirit > > Of The Age" as detailed below - and I was wondering if anyone had a copy > > spare for sale or trade. He can't find the bugger anywhere. If anyone can > > help, please drop me a line and I'll pass your details onto him. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > (And, many thanks for all your best wishes following the wedding. We spent > > part of the honeymoon in New York, and this time I didn't manage to > > accidentally see Hawkwind. :-( Rest of the trip was fantastic though!!! > > You should all go and see Blue Man Group, any chance you get!) > > > > > > > > Right. What I'm after is "Spirit of the Age". This is complicated beacuse > > > there appear to be two Hawkwind albums called "Spirit of tha Age" (Three > > if > > > you include "Spirit of the Age - The Solstice Remix"). One released by > > > Virgin in September 1988 and one released by Elite records in October > > 1991. > > > (Neither are listed at HMV) I'm after the Virgin release with the track > > > listing as .... > > > > > > The Forge of Vulcan (Introduction Out-take) > > > Flying Doctor > > > Steppenwolf > > > Hassan I Sabha > > > Twenty Five Years > > > Jack of Shadows > > > PSI Power > > > Reefer Madness > > > Fable of a Failed Race > > > Highrise > > > Quark Strangeness and Charm > > > Back on the Streets > > > Kerb Crawler > > > Only the Dreams of the Cold War Kid > > > Spirit of the Age > > > > > > Anyone .....? > > > > > > Oook > > > Roger From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 9 20:10:36 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Judge Trev) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 01:10:36 +0100 Subject: Dave sues Nik Message-ID: Once upon a time... ... we all used to get along fine. There was a great pool of fans, Hawkwind ones, ICU ones, Bedouin ones, Nik Turner ones, Bob Calvert ones, Lemmy ones etc. Everyone knew about everyone else and had their own favourite band or person. Everyone got record deals and gigs, and were thus able to create music and oil the lives of The Blessed Ones. Then one day, two of these big boys started beating each other up, and people started taking sides - and getting onery (whatever that means), and I found that I was getting trampled in the mele - and gigs were being interfered with - and doors started to be slammed - and it hardly seemed worthwhile to carry on. No, I'm not going into details. I really don't know what the future will bring. However all is not quite lost, there is still the festival scene left and thats where you'll find me from now on - speaking truths - giving love - strumming - singing... FOR IN MY RIGHT HAND RESIDES THE SWORD OF JUSTICE - AND IN MY LEFT HAND RESIDES THE POWER OF TRUTH ..and thats something they can't take away see me next at the Big Green Gathering (acoustic) wed 24 july 9.00pm Henry's Beard cafe sat 27th july 6.00pm Henry's Beard cafe http://www.big-green-gathering.com/ Love and Peace, Judge Trev By the way, I spoke to Steve Pond the other day and he's working on a new band/experience which is both unique and mindblowing. I'm sure he will reveal all to you soon. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 9 21:57:56 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:57:56 EDT Subject: OT delete OT Message-ID: Got any photos of scantilly clad veergins? In a message dated Wed, 10 Jul 2002 05:49:32 AEDT, alan day writes: > >From: filip > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Re: Mountain Grill > >Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 17:32:10 +0200 > > > >The photo is from the same year the Mountain Grill re-opend(or get the name > >back again),some 2 or 3 or 4 years ago? > > > >I know i've put the photo on the net right after i got back from london. > > > >anyway if you want the photo,no problem,just give me your e-mail and i'll > >send it > > > >filip > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: alan day > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 2:57 PM > >Subject: Re: Mountain Grill > > > > > > > >From: filip > > > >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > > >Subject: Re: Mountain Grill > > > >Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 13:40:36 +0200 > > > > > > > >hello Stephe, > > > > > > > >have a photo of it,can send it > > > >went there at 6 am in the morning before the stalls were in front of > >it. > > > >have also a photo of a shop called GONG in the same street. > > > > > > > >actual if anyone ones them: > > > >filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be > > > > > > > >filip > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: Stephe Lindas > > > >To: > > > >Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:48 PM > > > >Subject: Mountain Grill > > > > > > > > > > > >HI FOLKS, Does anyone know the location/address of the mountain grill? > >Is > > > >it > > > >still called that? Cheers STEPHE > > > > > > > > > How old is the photo? > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > Cheers Flip"! I'd like to see it...goin to da fest? me and my wife'll be > there...Cheers again! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Jul 9 22:03:14 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:03:14 +0100 Subject: HW: blowing the lid off this whole LSD thing Message-ID: ///CHOOSE THE POLICE/// "...I GIVE YOU THE GRATEFUL DEAD..." HAWKWIND rollcall: Dave Anderson - nazi rock'n'roll Harvey Bainbridge - hell's angels idiot monk Tim Blake - sits around and gets fucked up on drugs Clive Deamer - unknown gangster goth guy Dave Brock - michael moorcock says you're so beautiful Alan Davey - garage Alla in NATO Hilary Stench (Chrome) - dead punk / laying around in garages / Allah in all of Buddhism Simon King - says he is a chinaman / kicked out as a nazi GONG rollcall: Jannik Top (Magma) - kicked out as a nazi Didier Malherbe - strange luddite Mike Howlett - nazi bass player Bon Lozanga (Gongzilla) - dego mohawk rock'n'roll Steve Hillage - kicked out as a nazi PERSONAL CHARTS... Favorite 6 BLACK SABBATH tunes: Paranoid (Paranoid) After Forever (Master of Reality) Cornucopia (Volume 4) Symptom of The Universe (Sabotage) Johnny Blade (Never Say Die!) Neon Knights (Live Evil) Top 4 GRATEFUL DEAD albums: Anthem of The Sun Live/Dead AoxomoxoA American Beauty Down for the Count: HAWKWIND Top 7 Hawkwind albums of all time: "Chronicle Of The Black Sword" - Flicknife "Friday Rock Show Sessions: Reading '86" "Choose Your Masques Collector's Edition: Live '82" "Hall Of The Mountain Grill" - remaster "Sonic Attack" "Live 1997" "PXR5" "Warrior On The Edge Of Time" "Electric Tepee" 8 shimmering HAWKWIND spinoffs: "Captured Rotation" - Alan Davey "Chaos Delight" - Alan Davey "Captain Lockheed & The Starfighters"- Robert Calvert "Test Tube Conceived" - Robert Calvert "Past or Future" - Nik Turner "Ice Ritual" - Nik Turner/Dark Sun "All Thanks To The Lord Jesus Christ Amen" - Captain Jesus And The Sunray Dream "The Day That Nebulon Exploded"- Captain Jesus And The Sunray Dream MOTORHEAD top 10: Overkill Bomber I Got Mine Orgasmatron March Or Die Stone Dead Forever Speedfreak Snaggletooth City Kids Ace Of Spades I must have seen them live about 6-7 since 1995... Overkill or Ace Of Spades always the encore. Last time I saw them must have been in ' 98 or '99... feed off those amps... bathe your body in white noise... quench your inhuman thirst with beer! superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ --- "A 'Bowie-Shag' is when you miss your vein." - Dr. Crabstix, Nazi Deadhead Commando And Paramedic Hippy Emergency General You can take the Beatle out of Uncle Charlie, but you can't take Uncle Charlie out of The Beatles!" - Bastard Ceremonial Proverb Of The Immortal Blasphemers Of Sodom "There remains nothing but juggernauting the Apocalypse ?bersoul through the constant avalanche of dying bodies!" - Tubrok The Alterer, Paramilitary Ascendant Archangel Of Christ And Avenging Jehovah Of The Revalations "I actually saw Mot?rhead play at least seven fucking times, right, but I only remembered to bring my fucking woman along just once!" - The Cannibal Swinger, King Of Romania __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Jul 9 22:39:23 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:39:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: you don't have to be American to say you are still the president Message-ID: ***METAL CLUB COMPETITION WINNER***: Charlie Yuga, unofficial Rosecrucian Order approved Judas Priest warrior and official Golden Dawn sponsored crank user wins the 2001 "who can baptize the most hippies in heavy metal contest"... Jumpin' Jehovah! Below are the winning entries... WINNING ARCHANGEL ENTRY, PEDESTRIAN CLASS THELEMA FREESTYLE: "The Father, The Son And The Holy Ghost:" 1. Aleister Crowley 2. David Bowie 3. Dr. Timothy Leary WINNING BREAKFAST CEREAL SLOGAN: "It looks just like bunny shit!" 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Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From coral at APORT.RU Wed Jul 10 05:20:52 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:20:52 +0400 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: Thank you all for the support and kind words! I think I'll try to go to Embassy on 9th August though I know what they will say to me. They will point on the date of the Festival which will be already gone and say "why did you come here? now you don't have a reason for a visit." The additional info they wanted was - the answers to questions "why are you invited to this fest and why are you going there?" and "what connection do you have to the band?" I could explain everything but they wanted this to come from Kris. They had her phone number but they didn't call her. They demand personal invitations to get a visa. But when you have it they begin to ask "why do you have it?" That woman said that anyone could make this invitation. So why don't call Kris then? And other point. They TAKE MONEY for the interview. So I already payed all the calls. And they will take money again in August. They take about $60 for each interview! Alisa From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Jul 10 05:11:07 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:11:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Weird vinyl Message-ID: Hey folks Just received a flyer with the latest Voiceprint magazine thing. Looks like the first 5 Weird Tape volumes are now available on vinyl as picture discs in a limited edition of 500. No mention is made of extra tracks etc, but given the dearth of these on the CD versions, I'd reckon that to be unlikely. Just thought you Kollectors would like to know........ Dave From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 10 09:16:55 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:16:55 +0100 Subject: "Spirit of the Age" help needed. In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:34:29 +0100 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > Hi guys, > > Wonder if you can help a friend of mine on another list. He's after "Spirit > Of The Age" as detailed below - and I was wondering if anyone had a copy > spare for sale or trade. He can't find the bugger anywhere. If anyone can > help, please drop me a line and I'll pass your details onto him. That one comes up on Ebay and is occasionally around in secondhand shops. FoFP From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Wed Jul 10 14:13:24 2002 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (t.byrne) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:13:24 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 9 Jul 2002 to 10 Jul 2002 (#2002-193) Message-ID: Maybe it was their gene pool the USA were worried about, Steve. Seriously though, I was very sorry to read that you couldn't come Alisa. Maybe the War of the Worlds would be a good substitute to try - call their bluff. A Last Druid - aka Tom > Have had that reaction in the USA (well, when I was young and single). > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:01:10 +0400, Alisa wrote: > > >Hello all, > > > >just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to > the > >Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > >All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from > >Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't > >found any mistake. The old woman looking like Margaret Tatcher, who was > >interviewing me even didn't know what to ask. Maybe she just doesn't know > >what is Hawkwind. She just didn't believe me. So they didn't refuse me in > >getting visa, no. They just appointed the second interview to bring > >additional info on... August 9th! Can you imagine it? She saw that Festival > >being held from 19 to 21 and they appointed this date anyway. What is > this - > >mockery of Embassy? > >I've heard that British Embassy has direction not to let young pretty women > >in UK. > >What do you think about all these? > > > >I'm really very disappointed. > > > >Alisa > > > >"sick of politicians > >harassment and laws > >All we do is get screwed up > >By other people's flaws" > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 10 14:23:30 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:23:30 EDT Subject: BOC-L Digest - 9 Jul 2002 to 10 Jul 2002 (#2002-193) In-Reply-To: <002701c2283d$96972880$9f8ffea9@newcomputer> Message-ID: On 10 Jul 2002, at 19:13, t.byrne wrote: > Maybe it was their gene pool the USA were worried about, Steve. > > Seriously though, I was very sorry to read that you couldn't come > Alisa. Maybe the War of the Worlds would be a good substitute to try - > call their bluff. > > A Last Druid - aka Tom > > > Have had that reaction in the USA (well, when I was young and > > single). Uh, I believe it was the British embassy that was making problems. Clearly, our INS will let ANYONE, including Mohammed Atta et al into the country... theo From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 10 14:33:09 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:33:09 +0000 Subject: HW bloomingdales dteamscape Good site Message-ID: An interesting read! If you aint read this mail.. click on the web address and you'll see what I mean.. >From: Amphetamine Embalmer >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: HW: blowing the lid off this whole LSD thing >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 03:03:14 +0100 > > ///CHOOSE THE POLICE/// > > "...I GIVE YOU THE GRATEFUL DEAD..." > >HAWKWIND rollcall: >Dave Anderson - nazi rock'n'roll >Harvey Bainbridge - hell's angels idiot monk >Tim Blake - sits around and gets fucked up on drugs >Clive Deamer - unknown gangster goth guy >Dave Brock - michael moorcock says you're so >beautiful >Alan Davey - garage Alla in NATO >Hilary Stench (Chrome) - dead punk / laying around in >garages / Allah in all of Buddhism >Simon King - says he is a chinaman / kicked out as a >nazi > >GONG rollcall: >Jannik Top (Magma) - kicked out as a nazi >Didier Malherbe - strange luddite >Mike Howlett - nazi bass player >Bon Lozanga (Gongzilla) - dego mohawk rock'n'roll >Steve Hillage - kicked out as a nazi > > >PERSONAL CHARTS... > >Favorite 6 BLACK SABBATH tunes: >Paranoid (Paranoid) >After Forever (Master of Reality) >Cornucopia (Volume 4) >Symptom of The Universe (Sabotage) >Johnny Blade (Never Say Die!) >Neon Knights (Live Evil) > >Top 4 GRATEFUL DEAD albums: >Anthem of The Sun >Live/Dead >AoxomoxoA >American Beauty > >Down for the Count: HAWKWIND >Top 7 Hawkwind albums of all time: >"Chronicle Of The Black Sword" - Flicknife >"Friday Rock Show Sessions: Reading '86" >"Choose Your Masques Collector's >Edition: Live '82" >"Hall Of The Mountain Grill" - remaster >"Sonic Attack" >"Live 1997" >"PXR5" >"Warrior On The Edge Of Time" >"Electric Tepee" > >8 shimmering HAWKWIND spinoffs: >"Captured Rotation" - Alan Davey >"Chaos Delight" - Alan Davey >"Captain Lockheed & The Starfighters"- Robert Calvert >"Test Tube Conceived" - Robert Calvert >"Past or Future" - Nik Turner >"Ice Ritual" - Nik Turner/Dark Sun >"All Thanks To The Lord Jesus Christ Amen" - Captain >Jesus And The >Sunray Dream >"The Day That Nebulon Exploded"- Captain Jesus And The >Sunray Dream > >MOTORHEAD top 10: >Overkill >Bomber >I Got Mine >Orgasmatron >March Or Die >Stone Dead Forever >Speedfreak >Snaggletooth >City Kids >Ace Of Spades > >I must have seen them live about 6-7 since 1995... >Overkill or Ace Of Spades always the encore. Last time >I saw them must have been in ' 98 or '99... feed off >those amps... bathe your body in white noise... >quench your inhuman thirst with beer! > >superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk >http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ > >--- >"A 'Bowie-Shag' is when you miss your vein." >- Dr. Crabstix, Nazi Deadhead Commando And Paramedic >Hippy Emergency General > >You can take the Beatle out of Uncle Charlie, but you >can't take Uncle Charlie out of The Beatles!" >- Bastard Ceremonial Proverb Of The Immortal >Blasphemers Of Sodom > >"There remains nothing but juggernauting the >Apocalypse ?bersoul through the constant avalanche of >dying bodies!" >- Tubrok The Alterer, Paramilitary Ascendant Archangel >Of Christ And Avenging Jehovah Of The Revalations > >"I actually saw Mot?rhead play at least seven fucking >times, right, but I only remembered to bring my >fucking woman along just once!" >- The Cannibal Swinger, King Of Romania > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jul 10 14:52:29 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:52:29 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Rochester gigs In-Reply-To: <3D2C4360.21976.18DD704@localhost> Message-ID: Who's going to the the Newark or Seneca Falls shows? I'll definitely be at the later, I'm not sure I can make it to Newark though. I'm dying to know what the "collectibles" for sale will be.... Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 10 15:01:35 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:01:35 EDT Subject: BRAIN: Rochester gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10 Jul 2002, at 14:52, Brian Halligan wrote: > Who's going to the the Newark or Seneca Falls shows? I'll definitely > be at the later, I'm not sure I can make it to Newark though. I'm > dying to know what the "collectibles" for sale will be.... > Which one's Seneca Falls? Saturday, I think. If so, I'll most likely be there... theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jul 10 15:08:09 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:08:09 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Rochester gigs In-Reply-To: <3D2C4C4D.13321.1B0B47D@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > Which one's Seneca Falls? Saturday, I think. If so, I'll most likely > be there... Yep. Newark on Friday, Seneca Falls on Saturday. See you there! Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 10 15:20:25 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:20:25 EDT Subject: BRAIN: Rochester gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10 Jul 2002, at 15:08, Brian Halligan wrote: > Theo wrote: > > > Which one's Seneca Falls? Saturday, I think. If so, I'll most > > likely be there... > > Yep. Newark on Friday, Seneca Falls on Saturday. See you there! > It's a week from Sat., though, right? The 20th? tj From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Jul 10 15:27:27 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:27:27 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Rochester gigs In-Reply-To: <3D2C50B7.4900.1C1F48C@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: > It's a week from Sat., though, right? The 20th? Yep. It's also Jason "Bolts of Ungodly Vision"'s birthday. Hi J! -Brian From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Wed Jul 10 15:36:02 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:36:02 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Rochester gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> It's a week from Sat., though, right? The 20th? > >Yep. It's also Jason "Bolts of Ungodly Vision"'s birthday. > >Hi J! Hi B (above middle C heh) yes. that is true, a true confession. I was once born on the 20th. It's also true that I'm going to both shows. burnin' in the heat of competition, Jason From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 10 15:47:04 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:47:04 EDT Subject: BRAIN: Rochester gigs In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20020710153602.0069851c@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: On 10 Jul 2002, at 15:36, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > >> It's a week from Sat., though, right? The 20th? > > > >Yep. It's also Jason "Bolts of Ungodly Vision"'s birthday. > > > >Hi J! > Hi B (above middle C heh) > yes. that is true, a true confession. I was once born on the 20th. > It's also true that I'm going to both shows. Should be a blast. Look forward to seeing both of you... theo From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Jul 10 18:24:13 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:24:13 -0400 Subject: hawkwind:high rise Message-ID: wow,don't know how i missed this when it first came out in '75, but just finished reading jg ballard's `high rise'. incredible book,obviously ties in to hawkwind song of the same name. best ballard book i've ever read. find a copy if you haven't read it, found mine in a used bookstore. those of you who've read it- what did you think?? tim 8>)... today's cd:beatles-white album From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 10 19:07:29 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:07:29 +0100 Subject: hawkwind:high rise Message-ID: Great book read it a few years ago. Crash is great as well much more disturbing than the film. >From: Tim >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: hawkwind:high rise >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:24:13 -0400 > >wow,don't know how i missed this when it first came out >in '75, but just finished reading jg ballard's `high rise'. >incredible book,obviously ties in to hawkwind song of the same >name. best ballard book i've ever read. find a copy if you haven't read it, >found mine in a used bookstore. those of you who've read it- >what did you think?? >tim 8>)... > >today's cd:beatles-white album _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jul 10 19:25:47 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 19:25:47 -0400 Subject: hawkwind:high rise Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:24:13 -0400, Tim wrote: >wow,don't know how i missed this when it first came out >in '75, but just finished reading jg ballard's `high rise'. >incredible book,obviously ties in to hawkwind song of the same >name. best ballard book i've ever read. find a copy if you haven't read it, >found mine in a used bookstore. those of you who've read it- >what did you think?? YUMMMMM ... ALSATIAN!! (smacks lips) TASTES LIKE CHICKEN!! (note: American listmembers read "Alsatian" as "German Shepherd") Uh, seriously, yeah, that's a good one (I think I even picked up my copy in a bookstore in the Cleveland suburbs immediately before or after one of the Stange Daze fests), but I think that Ballard continues to improve as a writer as he refines his means of describing how human progress continually turns on us and bites us in the ass. My favorite is his most recent, 'Super Cannes', which explains the lengths certain people will go to combat the boredom and comfort in their lives. ... and in the Hawkwind connection department, the song title (and atmosphere of) "City Of Lagoons" was obviously inspired by Ballard's 'The Drowned World'. Other Ballard-inspired songs worth noting include "The Atrocity Exhibition" (Joy Division) and "Concrete Island" (ST37 ... the book of which is supposed to form a semi-related trilogy with 'High Rise' and 'Crash'). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 03:47:49 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:47:49 +0100 Subject: HW: blowing the lid off this whole LSD thing Message-ID: Hey, what's the obsession with Nazis - is your head okay or was it a bad trip - Steve Hillside Village a Nazi????#####!!!!!!@@@@@? Like, how d'you know - go to an ON reunion in disguise as Mother Teresa? Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > ///CHOOSE THE POLICE/// > > "...I GIVE YOU THE GRATEFUL DEAD..." > > HAWKWIND rollcall: > Dave Anderson - nazi rock'n'roll > Harvey Bainbridge - hell's angels idiot monk > Tim Blake - sits around and gets fucked up on drugs > Clive Deamer - unknown gangster goth guy > Dave Brock - michael moorcock says you're so > beautiful > Alan Davey - garage Alla in NATO > Hilary Stench (Chrome) - dead punk / laying around in > garages / Allah in all of Buddhism > Simon King - says he is a chinaman / kicked out as a > nazi > > GONG rollcall: > Jannik Top (Magma) - kicked out as a nazi > Didier Malherbe - strange luddite > Mike Howlett - nazi bass player > Bon Lozanga (Gongzilla) - dego mohawk rock'n'roll > Steve Hillage - kicked out as a nazi > From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 03:50:49 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:50:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: you don't have to be American to say you are still thepresident Message-ID: And do you know, I was kicked off this discussion list for better strofconsc than this???!!! Where's the justice, eh, what's that you say, speak up sonny my hearing's not what it used to be. etc etc blah blah. Rat Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > > > CHARLIE YUGA'S PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH TO THE PEOPLE > > "...wake up heads, freaks, drunks, punks, kids and > derelict outlaw goths of Belanone and The Golden Dawn! > Your very own naked, trashy and undead sister with the > beautiful shaven crotch is spreading her legs like a > slut and waiting without question because she is > fucking ready for some of you and your lovin' hussey > highness, daddy-o! Your woman is stoned, horny, free > and in love, getting smacked up at age 15 like an > idiot just for you and your sorry ass spikes and > leather speedfreak Nazarene self because the name is > Rob Halford..." > > "...your name is Rob Halford senior appearing as Iggy > Pop and Peter Hammill... as a dead Hilary Stench > laying around in garages, Gwar's Oderus Urungus and > Balsac The Jaws of Death, as a youthful Bon Scott, as > Axl Rose and Slash, as SS mohawk warrior Blacky from > Voivod, as a > crazy John Bonham collapsing behind his drumkit, as > Dave Anderson and Simon King from Hawkwind, Johan > Edlund of Tiamat, Dave Vanian and Captain Sensible of > The Damned, an angry and desperate Bob Mould and > Husker Du belting out the apocalypse and a ton of > military > installatons all over NATO, Steve Hillage as Allah > saluting the swastika in full nazi regalia, a dying > Edward Ka-Spel in the cancer ward, Johnny Rotten > giving punks the finger in a hail of fucking spittle, > the clinically suicidal Ian Curtis playing with a live > noose for a final time, John Leckie as Elvis, Phil > Collins on crack, the Subhumans, the guy in Cathedral, > Gary Ramon blowing somebody's head off with a wah-wah, > Jello Biafra in a Harley t-shirt, Larry Wallis' > awesome mid 70's 'Live And Unreleased' stint with the > Pink Fairies, half the members of Entombed, Andrew > Eldritch, The Dictators ca. "Manifest Destiny" and > "Blood Brothers", Roky Erickson, Bon Lozanga, > Terence Stamp, Captain Jesus And The Sunray Dream, > Larry from The Mooseheart Faith, Morgoth, Gong, Alex > Morgon of T.S.O.L., Batman and Robin, H.R. Giger, > Renate Knaup, Kurt Vonnegut or just fucking dead > uncle fucking Dracula, the jehovah, fucking Satan, or > whomever you may still fucking be, loverboy... we love > you..." > -Hare Charlie Krsna Yuga > > "still teaching goths how to take apart and > disassemble machine guns in the 21st century" > > (c) 2001-2002 Charlie Yuga > superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk > http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ > > --- > "A 'Bowie-Shag' is when you miss your vein." > - Dr. Crabstix, Nazi Deadhead Commando And Paramedic > Hippy Emergency General > > You can take the Beatle out of Uncle Charlie, but you > can't take Uncle Charlie out of The Beatles!" > - Bastard Ceremonial Proverb Of The Immortal > Blasphemers Of Sodom > > "There remains nothing but juggernauting the > Apocalypse ?bersoul through the constant avalanche of > dying bodies!" > - Tubrok The Alterer, Paramilitary Ascendant Archangel > Of Christ And Avenging Jehovah Of The Revalations > > "I actually saw Mot?rhead play at least seven fucking > times, right, but I only remembered to bring my > fucking woman along just once!" > - The Cannibal Swinger, King Of Romania > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 04:04:24 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:04:24 +0100 Subject: Contact possible? & reasons Message-ID: Hi peeps - sorry to trouble you and all. I have plugged my web site with my own cover of Motorhead and a couple of my toons on it enough already, but I wondered if anyone has any contact e-mails for any member of Hawkwind (particularly Mr Brock) to send under plain brown wrapper? Reason follows - I am putting together a track on my PC which, while it has original lyrics of my own, uses my attempt at cloning the Motorhead drum line to one extent or another and a chord sequence MASSIVELY ripped off of Ejection. Therefore I wanted to know if any of the famous Hawks objected before I complete it and place it upon the Internet for public perusal. (Objection - explode into space, Rejection - protect my face, Pretention - it's just a disgrace. Don't worry they're not the lyrics I mention). In case you want to check the site (I know I know I said I wouldn't do it again) it's at http://www.fatrat.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rat Cheers. Rat. From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 04:21:01 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:21:01 +0100 Subject: OT delete OT Message-ID: Michael W Blackman wrote: > > Got any photos of scantilly clad veergins? > Storekeeper: "Not much call for them round these parts sir". From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 06:25:28 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:25:28 -0400 Subject: Bronze records story sleeve notes Message-ID: if anyones interested, found this little snippet on a web site discussing bronze records: "We did quite well with Hawkwind, but they were a bit lazy," Bron maintains. "They constantly wanted to do live albums, so they wouldn't have to write songs. Ginger Baker joined them in 1980 for Levitation, but somebody else had played the drums and the album was just about ready to go. Ginger insisted on re-dubbing his own drum parts and I told him with the greatest respect that it was almost impossible, but he did them one after another and it took no time at all." the full story can be found here: http://www.saunalahti.fi/~htapiom/newstuff/bronze.htm cheers colm Colm McWilliams From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Jul 11 06:34:06 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:34:06 -0400 Subject: hawkwind:high rise Message-ID: HI, Are these books still in print? Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: hawkwind:high rise > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:24:13 -0400, Tim wrote: > >wow,don't know how i missed this when it first came out > >in '75, but just finished reading jg ballard's `high rise'. > >incredible book,obviously ties in to hawkwind song of the same > >name. best ballard book i've ever read. find a copy if you haven't read it, > >found mine in a used bookstore. those of you who've read it- > >what did you think?? > > YUMMMMM ... ALSATIAN!! (smacks lips) TASTES LIKE CHICKEN!! > > (note: American listmembers read "Alsatian" as "German Shepherd") > > Uh, seriously, yeah, that's a good one (I think I even picked up my copy in > a bookstore in the Cleveland suburbs immediately before or after one of the > Stange Daze fests), but I think that Ballard continues to improve as a > writer as he refines his means of describing how human progress continually > turns on us and bites us in the ass. My favorite is his most > recent, 'Super Cannes', which explains the lengths certain people will go > to combat the boredom and comfort in their lives. > > ... and in the Hawkwind connection department, the song title (and > atmosphere of) "City Of Lagoons" was obviously inspired by Ballard's 'The > Drowned World'. Other Ballard-inspired songs worth noting include "The > Atrocity Exhibition" (Joy Division) and "Concrete Island" (ST37 ... the > book of which is supposed to form a semi-related trilogy with 'High Rise' > and 'Crash'). > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 11 06:45:35 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:45:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: >From what I have seen living in London where there are alot of Russian and East European people it seems that if you are genuine and play by the rules then they will get rid of you because you are simply easier to get rid of. The best people come out worst and the whole thing is upside down. On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:20:52 +0400, Alisa wrote: >Thank you all for the support and kind words! > >I think I'll try to go to Embassy on 9th August though I know what they will >say to me. >They will point on the date of the Festival which will be already gone and >say "why did you come here? now you don't have a reason for a visit." > >The additional info they wanted was - the answers to questions "why are you >invited to this fest and why are you going there?" and "what connection do >you have to the band?" >I could explain everything but they wanted this to come from Kris. They had >her phone number but they didn't call her. >They demand personal invitations to get a visa. But when you have it they >begin to ask "why do you have it?" >That woman said that anyone could make this invitation. So why don't call >Kris then? And other point. They TAKE MONEY for the interview. So I already >payed all the calls. And they will take money again in August. They take >about $60 for each interview! > >Alisa From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 08:07:37 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 13:07:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: fancy some thrash... Message-ID: adhering to the genre, some of my favorites... eat a pear! Have a pair or three! Queen - Sheer Heart Attack (1973) Queen - Flash Gordon (1981) Voivod - Angel Rat (1991) Voivod - Phobos (1997) Cathedral - Carnival Bizarre (1995) Cathedral - Caravan Beyond Redemption (1998) hellbent for leather, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ ObCD: "The Score" - the great CD that came with the last issue of Mojo - lots of great funk and other goodies... --- "A 'Bowie-Shag' is when you miss your vein." - Dr. Crabstix, Nazi Deadhead Commando And Paramedic Hippy Emergency General You can take the Beatle out of Uncle Charlie, but you can't take Uncle Charlie out of The Beatles!" - Bastard Ceremonial Proverb Of The Immortal Blasphemers Of Sodom "There remains nothing but juggernauting the Apocalypse ?bersoul through the constant avalanche of dying bodies!" - Tubrok The Alterer, Paramilitary Ascendant Archangel Of Christ And Avenging Jehovah Of The Revalations "I actually saw Mot?rhead play at least seven fucking times, right, but I only remembered to bring my fucking woman along just once!" - The Cannibal Swinger, King Of Romania __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 09:09:20 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:09:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: tool & die... Adolf Hitler! Message-ID: Still can't get enough of that latest Entombed CD - tool & die... Adolf Hitler! "...the rules say I am a musician... it's the goof of all times... schoolgirl selling sex on a groove machine... I take the bricks out of the briefcase... set this whole thing free..." -"Bringer Of Light", Entombed, "Morning Star" hellbent for leather, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 11 10:08:11 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:08:11 +0100 Subject: HW: actually, really RE: Off: Tull!!! but explicit HW at the end In-Reply-To: <200206262119.RAA02215@listserv.spc.edu>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 05:19:55PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 05:19:55PM -0400, Doug Pearson typed out: > On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:54:14 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett > wrote: > > I don't blame HW for it so much as I blame Voiceprint. > > Why would you blame Voiceprint? Their only alternative would be to refuse > to release whatever material is deemed "sub-standard" (which would probably > be in violation of whatever agreement they have with Hawkwind/Dave, unless > there are legal reasons to not release it, as I assume is the case with > Weird 6, for instance), in which case Hawkwind fans (at least me!) would be > blaming Voiceprint for NOT making the material available. It's a lose-lose > situation for them (which makes me feel sorry for Voiceprint, really; > they've been very much damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don't on this > list, while I think they've been doing an EXCELLENT job with not just > Hawkwind, but many other great artists). And who would be the one to make > the judgement call of what's deemed "sub-standard"? This exchange is > certainly evidence that differences of opinion among Hawkwind fans are far > too vast for any one person to make that decision ;^). Well, mostly I blame Voiceprint because I think they're a bunch of cowboys, in that their releases show a minimum of care and effort only undercut by Oz-IT, but on the other hand they get the stuff out there. They are essentially a distributor so maybe that's why, but incomplete tracklists, botched credits, substandard artwork, no post-production, you can say all this about so many of their products, and the whole mispressed _Spacebrock_ as bonus CD affair suggests to me that they're doing half this stuff on a wing and a prayer. Of course you could say half these things about EBS releases and add constant indexing errors, but EBS stuff looked and sounded better and showed care so I didn't mind. I hear what you say though, and I realise half their problems are at music source not music distribution end... > >The stuff that HW has sold privately (like _Hawkwind 1997_) > >has been much better quality. > > But that one IS a Voiceprint release! (Catalog# HAWKVP 999) It's just the > only Hawk/Voiceprint release that *isn't* distributed (only manufactured) > by Voiceprint. And certainly 'Yule Ritual' and the recent 'Nottingham > 1990' are superb sound quality (well, the Simon-less half of '1990' is > superb sound quality, the Nottingham/Live Legends half is very, very good - > way better than either Complete '79 or '82 IMO - but not quite superb). Yeah, it's the distribution I have the issues with really. _Yule Ritual_ is good though the vocals are oddly high up in the mix; I can't stand the artwork though, the credits are wrong and the photos mostly from a different gig, several of Huw who's not on the disc, so on. Again Voiceprint not the only offenders here (there's no photoes of Jerry for example, wonder why) but _Hawkwind 1997_ is good quality but untinkered with. _Complete '79_ and _Glastonbury 1990_ are surely as valid a target as was _Yuri Gagarin_ and _In The Beginning_ for that scenario where someone is interested enough in Hawkwind to buy a CD, finds it unlistenable and never tries again. The band themselves shouldn't be putting that stuff out, and Voiceprint should at least be cleaning it up before burning it straight to disc. But I want to live in an ideal world of course. > Are you suggesting that something like 'Glastonbury 90' should be sold > *only* by the band, and not be available in stores ("high street")? That > would A) make it more difficult for the fans (especially overseas) to > obtain the release, and B) make a lot more work for Dave/Kris/whoever, that > actually has to pack and post all the orders from fans (or they'd have to > pay someone to do it ... and I have a feeling that Ian Anderson is much > better equipped for this than Dave). I personally would rather see (even > though it's none of MY business!) Dave spending time playing guitar, > writing songs, working on stage set ideas, or even just hanging out on the > farm, than filling CD orders. Also, removing the releases from normal > distribution channels would mean that a whole lot fewer copies would be > sold, which would presumably not be in the band's and label's best interest. I'm not sure that these things are advertising mainstream product particularly well! No, I don't think they should be band-distributed, I'd expect to see them in mail-order catalogues, that sort of stuff, I don't think they should be considered to be high-street-able. I reckon if you're going to put Collector on it anyway you might as well put it where the Collectors are looking. In monetary terms what you say makes perfect sense, of course, as long as the low quality doesn't kick back. I'm hanging on to an old- fashioned ideal here I guess. > >> if you want "perfection", go listen to ... one of > >> those "live" albums where all the guitar parts were re-recorded by a > >> session player in the studio. Jeez!) > > > > Weren't a fair few bits of _Space Ritual_ re-recorded in the > >studio? :-) > > Possibly some (have we ever had firm evidence on this, besides good guesses > by people with good ears? It's certainly possible, although I also think > it's possible that there are some areas where two guitar parts can be heard > because an edit is being cross-faded, so the guitar from part 1 can be > heard fading out while the guitar from part 2 is fading in) ... but > certainly nothing like live albums by Thin Lizzy (according to producer > Tony Visconti, all of the lead vocals & bass, and most of the guitars, are > studio overdubs), Kiss (on which Ace's guitar parts are played by a session > musician), the Stones, etc. And 'Space Ritual II' (which would presumably > have NOT been re-recorded/overdubbed/augmented) sounds pretty good to these > (admittedly tin) ears ... ;^) I don't know, it was Larry Boyd that started that hare. I don't think it was serious stuff like _Live and Dangerous_ of course; I seem to remember him mentioning Calvert's poetry was mostly rerecorded (or maybe just in `Seven By Seven'?) and Dave's guitar in *I think* `Down Through The Night'. Hold on. Ah yes, I don't quite remember correctly. The post I was thinking of went like this... On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > Subject: Re: HW: Finest Moments > > In a message dated 2/6/01 1:27:25 PM, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: > > << > Live "Space is Deep" from Space Ritual...just after the guitar-and-drums jam > has finished and before the Only Dreaming "whewwwwwwwww" part, Brock is just > picking away mellowly and suddenly there's an extra layer of "wah" laid on > top...really smooth. Yeah? > > >> > ========= > if you are suggesting a gtr. overdub on top of the live recording...um... > i am reminded of the way 'born to go' is followed by 'down through the > night'; there are several moments between the two on the audience tape, but > on the lp, one fades out whilst the next fades up, creating two guitars, > briefly. > that brock's vocals on 'down through the night' were redone/overdubbed are > another story. Now what Chuck was talking about is well-known now to be Del running Dave's guitar through the VCS, but what Larry was saying is a bit different. So yeah, what do I know. > Sorry if I'm being argumentive (not my intent! I enjoy the discussion - > thanks, Jon!) ... it's just that when I consider the alternatives, I don't > see anything that's more workable than the way the Collector Series is > already distributed/marketed, since selling them direct instead of through > stores would be a lose-lose-lose situation (fans can't get 'em - band has > to do more work to sell 'em - label doesn't sell as many copies). I think, as I say, there's a halfway through mailorder outlets which would be more appropriate given how ropey some of the product is--but since some of it's fine, you then sort of have to stock the whole series high-street or none at all... I think basically my stance is, "It's a pity Hawkwind are issuing records which sound so awful, especially given how loyally we all harangue Dave Anderson for doing it too." But they seem to have stopped doing it now? Maybe? > P.S. If anyone's listening - Collector Series spring '84 or > Stonehenge '84 ... PLEASE!!! Can I add a resounding "Hell yeah" to that? Yours, Jon ObCD: Monster Magnet - _Dopes To Infinity_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 10:09:16 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:09:16 +0100 Subject: HW: from Gwar list Message-ID: alt.music.gwar subject: Re: Gwar >> The only Gwar CD I still have is their first album which kicks ass and >> remains their best.... I used to have "America Must Be Destroyed" but I >sold >> with a bunch of stuff. Seen most of their videos though. The only band to >> ever match Gwar in scope and stage gear has to be the ultimate rock band >> ever, Hawkwind. > >did you leave out a crucial sentence that containted the main point, or >thesis of your paragraph? ok, you got me, I was really plugging the oldest and ultimate band in hardcore psychedelic spacerock and epic streetmetal: Hawkwind! Go to http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/hawkwind.html for The Hawkwind Electric Library with links to other Hawkwind sites. Hawkwind kicks ass! GwaRGuITaR wrote in message ... >heh > >Hawkwind currently consist of a core membership of five: > >Dave Brock >Guitars, synths, vocals. Member since 1969. > > You are a cruel man indeed. Dave Brock lives! alt.music.gwar subject: The first time I had sex and fell in love was to GWAR It was after watching Gwar's "Phallus In Wonderland" of all things. GwaRGuITaR wrote in message ... >> That would explain it when she saw you naked and said, "No way! They cut >off >> his dick!" > >"you couldn't get a hard on even if you had a dick" > >GG Of course I have a dick. I just never get a hard on when I do speed or take very cold showers. Otherwise I have a hard on LOTS of times. As for the girl, she was a honey indeed and its a true friggin story. hellbent for leather, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ ObCD: Gwar - Violence Has Arrived __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jul 11 12:58:37 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:58:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Bronze records story sleeve notes Message-ID: Colm sends... >if anyones interested, found this little snippet on a web site discussing >bronze records: > >"We did quite well with Hawkwind, but they were a bit lazy," Bron >maintains. "They constantly wanted to do live albums, so they wouldn't have >to write songs. Ginger Baker joined them in 1980 for Levitation, but >somebody else had played the drums and the album was just about ready to >go. Ginger insisted on re-dubbing his own drum parts and I told him with >the greatest respect that it was almost impossible, but he did them one >after another and it took no time at all." Does anybody know if Simon King's (I assume) drum tracks for Levitation still exist? If so, I for one would be interested to have this released as another collector's series thang. I can only imagine that it would sound *completely* different than the one we have heard all these years. Baker's drumming was so entirely different than any other drummer HW has ever had! I guess we know what Motorway City sounds like with King from the Live '79 album, but that version was different in other ways too. Grakkl (FAA) From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jul 11 15:21:21 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:21:21 -0400 Subject: HW: actually, really RE: Off: Tull!!! but explicit HW at the end Message-ID: Jon, Truly a pleasure to discuss these issues with you ... On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:08:11 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 05:19:55PM -0400, Doug Pearson typed out: >> Why would you blame Voiceprint? Their only alternative would be to >> refuse to release whatever material is deemed "sub-standard" ... > > Well, mostly I blame Voiceprint because I think they're a bunch of >cowboys, in that their releases show a minimum of care and effort only >undercut by Oz-IT, ... who just (finally!) released Captain Beefheart's 'Bat Chain Puller' sessions on CD, so you will NOT hear me complain one word about that label! > ... but on the other hand they get the stuff out >there. They are essentially a distributor so maybe that's why, but >incomplete tracklists, botched credits, substandard artwork, no >post-production, you can say all this about so many of their products, This is true for a lot (but not all!) of the Hawkwind stuff, but, for instance, the Man and Fall reissues are *very well* done IMHO (of course the artwork on the Fall reissues is very "substandard", but with the Fall, it's supposed to be that way!). And "find-the-mistakes-in-the-credits" has been a fun game for Hawkwind fans since long before they started releasing stuff through Voiceprint (hello, Doug Buckley!). >and the whole mispressed _Spacebrock_ as bonus CD affair suggests to >me that they're doing half this stuff on a wing and a prayer. But at least they actually re-pressed it with the correct version. That's more than you can say for EBS (see: 'Distant Horizons', which never got proper mastering, versus 'Yule Ritual', which most certainly *did* get post- production mastering, even if it made the bass sound like !#%$@ IMHO [as a bass player]). >Of course you could >say half these things about EBS releases and add constant indexing errors, >but EBS stuff looked and sounded better and showed care so I didn't mind. I'll give EBS credit for those nice full-color cardboard sleeves on the two live albums ('Business Trip' & 'Love In Space'), as well as doing a lot of vinyl (although those picture discs of Weird 101-105 sound pretty tempting except for the fact that I hate picture discs ... I think the only one I own is the Dwarves 'Blood Guts and Pussy'). > I hear what you say though, and I realise half their problems are >at music source not music distribution end... Yeah, that's pretty much all I'm saying here :^) > Yeah, it's the distribution I have the issues with really. _Yule >Ritual_ is good though the vocals are oddly high up in the mix; I can't >stand the artwork though, the credits are wrong and the photos mostly from >a different gig, several of Huw who's not on the disc, so on. I believe that Voiceprint have made a replacement booklet available for free (has anyone gotten one?). If that's true, they deserve a lot of credit for it (just as they do for properly repressing 'Spacebrock'). >Again >Voiceprint not the only offenders here (there's no photoes of Jerry for >example, wonder why) but _Hawkwind 1997_ is good quality but untinkered >with. _Complete '79_ and _Glastonbury 1990_ are surely as valid a target >as was _Yuri Gagarin_ and _In The Beginning_ for that scenario where >someone is interested enough in Hawkwind to buy a CD, finds it >unlistenable and never tries again. The band themselves shouldn't be >putting that stuff out, and Voiceprint should at least be cleaning it up >before burning it straight to disc. But I want to live in an ideal world >of course. Well, there's only so much you can do to clean up a lo-fi live recording. The problems with 'Glastonbury 90' are especially troublesome; filtering out wind noises and audience speech are next to impossible. Getting rid of tape hiss and adding "clarity"/"punchiness" to a recording are much easier (although unfortunately the latter is easy to overdo these days, witness the 'Yule Ritual' bass). >> Are you suggesting that something like 'Glastonbury 90' should be sold >> *only* by the band, and not be available in stores ("high street")? ... > > I'm not sure that these things are advertising mainstream product >particularly well! No, I don't think they should be band-distributed, I'd >expect to see them in mail-order catalogues, that sort of stuff, I don't >think they should be considered to be high-street-able. I reckon if you're >going to put Collector on it anyway you might as well put it where the >Collectors are looking. That's a good point. I could see selling stuff like that through "specialty" outlets like CDS or (if they're at all active) the Freak Emporium or Forced Exposure, etc. > In monetary terms what you say makes perfect sense, of course, as >long as the low quality doesn't kick back. I'm hanging on to an old- >fashioned ideal here I guess. I guess you're saying, "don't release it unless it's near perfect" and I'm saying, "don't release it unless it's as good as it's gonna get". Neither one an invalid outlook IMO. >> > Weren't a fair few bits of _Space Ritual_ re-recorded in the >> >studio? :-) >> >> Possibly some (have we ever had firm evidence on this, besides good >> guesses by people with good ears? ... >> it's possible that there are some areas where two guitar parts can be >> heard because an edit is being cross-faded, so the guitar from part 1 >> can be heard fading out while the guitar from part 2 is fading in) ... >> but certainly nothing like live albums by Thin Lizzy (according to >> producer Tony Visconti, all of the lead vocals & bass, and most of >> the guitars, are studio overdubs) ... > > I don't know, it was Larry Boyd that started that hare. I don't >think it was serious stuff like _Live and Dangerous_ of course; I seem to >remember him mentioning Calvert's poetry was mostly rerecorded (or maybe >just in `Seven By Seven'?) and Dave's guitar in *I think* `Down Through >The Night'. Hold on. Ah yes, I don't quite remember >correctly. The post I was thinking of went like this... > >On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >> Subject: Re: HW: Finest Moments >> >> In a message dated 2/6/01 1:27:25 PM, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: >> >> << >> Live "Space is Deep" from Space Ritual...just after the guitar-and-drums jam >> has finished and before the Only Dreaming "whewwwwwwwww" part, Brock is just >> picking away mellowly and suddenly there's an extra layer of "wah" laid on >> top...really smooth. Yeah? >> >> >> >> ========= >> if you are suggesting a gtr. overdub on top of the live recording...um... >> i am reminded of the way 'born to go' is followed by 'down through the >> night'; there are several moments between the two on the audience tape, but >> on the lp, one fades out whilst the next fades up, creating two guitars, >> briefly. >> that brock's vocals on 'down through the night' were redone/overdubbed are >> another story. Thanks for digging up this message! > Now what Chuck was talking about is well-known now to be Del >running Dave's guitar through the VCS, but what Larry was saying is a bit >different. So yeah, what do I know. It sounds like Larry is describing exactly what I mentioned above ("two guitar parts can be heard because an edit is being cross-faded...") on the "Born To Go"/"Down Through The Night" transition (which makes sense because they were doing everything possible to fit the show onto a double LP). So it doesn't really sound like there's evidence of *guitar* overdubs on 'Space Ritual' (but I'd be really surprised if there weren't any *vocal* overdubs on the album). > I think, as I say, there's a halfway through mailorder outlets >which would be more appropriate given how ropey some of the product >is--but since some of it's fine, you then sort of have to stock the whole >series high-street or none at all... Yeah, you have to look at it from several perspectives. There's the hardkore fan (like me) who wants it all, and is more than willing to forego sound quality for a good performance ... *I* want to be able to get all the stuff at the local shop. Then there's the casual or new fan (however, I'd have to believe that there are not very many of either of these with Hawkwind these days) who might see both the EMI mid-price remasters and the Voiceprint Collectors' series at the store, and runs the risk of buying the hardkore-fans-only releases instead of the essential EMI ones. And then there's the band/label perspective - if they limit distribution to only specialty outlets, they're cutting off a good proportion of potential sales, which is obviously not in their best interest. And from the band's (well, at least Dave's) perspective, I would bet that he sees a much larger royalty rate from the Voiceprint releases than the EMI ones. Another way to do it would be simply to make sure that poor sound quality is matched with "cheap" artwork, along the lines of those 20-some Pearl Jam live albums that were released a couple years back (in what looked like rubber-stamped paperboard sleeves). Although part of the reason to own 'Complete 79' is for the nice reproduction of the tour programme (better art than *any* EBS release IMO). > I think basically my stance is, "It's a pity Hawkwind are issuing >records which sound so awful, especially given how loyally we all harangue >Dave Anderson for doing it too." But they seem to have stopped doing it >now? Maybe? And I guess that's where our difference of opinion lies. The only reason I don't like 'Yuri Gagarin' is because I think the performance is weak; the sound quality is perfectly acceptable *for what it is* (pretty much the ONLY documentation of the post-'Space Ritual' Calvert-fronted lineup). And there are kollektors out there who would KILL for *any* tape with Lemmy performing the 'Warrior' live set (because one is not known to exist), even if it sounded like it was recorded from under someone's seat at the back of the hall. But 'Text Of Festival' is still one of my alltime favorite Hawkwind albums ... the only one that really demonstrates what they were capable of in those early days. >> P.S. If anyone's listening - Collector Series spring '84 or >> Stonehenge '84 ... PLEASE!!! > > Can I add a resounding "Hell yeah" to that? ... as long as the sound's up to snuff? ;^) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jul 11 16:46:53 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:46:53 -0400 Subject: hawkwind:high rise Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:34:06 -0400, Stephe Lindas wrote: >HI, Are these books still in print? Cheers STEPHE I honestly have no idea which ones are and which ones aren't, but I have yet to read anything less-than-intriguing by the man. Get yourself down to the nearest well-stocked bookstore and buy some Ballard! He's usually filed under literature/general fiction rather than in the sci-fi ghetto, since some of his better-known stuff ('Empire of the Sun' for instance, which had a highly-acclaimed movie made of it) has no relation to sci-fi. And as I said before, I think his writing has improved throughout his career (I find his earliest works, such as 'The Wind From Nowhere' or 'The Drowned World' to be less interesting than his later efforts), so his most recent novels, at least, ought to be readily available (as well as 'Crash', because of the film). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Pearson" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:25 PM >Subject: Re: hawkwind:high rise > >> On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:24:13 -0400, Tim wrote: >> >wow,don't know how i missed this when it first came out >> >in '75, but just finished reading jg ballard's `high rise'... From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 17:19:53 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:19:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival Message-ID: This is ridiculous! I suppose it's no use saying you just want to come and spend a holiday here - in Devon? I guess you have to be part of some group tour with a set itinerary. You should definitely try again in August - as Steve says, you might manage to get to the War of the Worlds event (+ Hawkwind). Can any of us help? Do you need to have someone to stay with or something of the sort? jill PS: Actually there was a curious story on the radio this morning concerning the British Open Golf Tournament. Apparently overseas golf players have to qualify in this country so when they apply they are given a visa to come over and play on one of the qualifying courses. There was an unexpectedly high number of Nigerian applicants this year but only six players actually turned up to play a qualifying round. Nobody seems to know where the other applicants have got to. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Alisa To: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: OFF: British Embassy in Russia and Festival > Hello all, > > just got back from UK Embassy. Unfortunately it seems like I won't go to the > Festival because of decisions of Embassy. > All documents were made properly and I even had a personal invitation from > Kris Tait to Hawkwind Festival. Well, they looked through them and didn't From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 11 14:52:05 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:52:05 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest - Starfield Message-ID: I wonder if Captain Blacks "starfield" will be playing live at the Hawkfest? Their not on the advertised line up but i would really like to see them. cheers colm From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Jul 11 20:37:00 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:37:00 -0400 Subject: hawkwind:high rise Message-ID: I think they re-issue them every now & again,but most used bookstores have at least some ballard stuff tim Stephe Lindas wrote: > > HI, Are these books still in print? Cheers STEPHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Pearson" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: hawkwind:high rise > > > > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:24:13 -0400, Tim wrote: > > >wow,don't know how i missed this when it first came out > > >in '75, but just finished reading jg ballard's `high rise'. > > >incredible book,obviously ties in to hawkwind song of the same > > >name. best ballard book i've ever read. find a copy if you haven't read > it, > > >found mine in a used bookstore. those of you who've read it- > > >what did you think?? > > > > YUMMMMM ... ALSATIAN!! (smacks lips) TASTES LIKE CHICKEN!! > > > > (note: American listmembers read "Alsatian" as "German Shepherd") > > > > Uh, seriously, yeah, that's a good one (I think I even picked up my copy > in > > a bookstore in the Cleveland suburbs immediately before or after one of > the > > Stange Daze fests), but I think that Ballard continues to improve as a > > writer as he refines his means of describing how human progress > continually > > turns on us and bites us in the ass. My favorite is his most > > recent, 'Super Cannes', which explains the lengths certain people will go > > to combat the boredom and comfort in their lives. > > > > ... and in the Hawkwind connection department, the song title (and > > atmosphere of) "City Of Lagoons" was obviously inspired by Ballard's 'The > > Drowned World'. Other Ballard-inspired songs worth noting include "The > > Atrocity Exhibition" (Joy Division) and "Concrete Island" (ST37 ... the > > book of which is supposed to form a semi-related trilogy with 'High Rise' > > and 'Crash'). > > > > -Doug > > jasret at mindspring.com From novadrive at COX.NET Fri Jul 12 00:05:01 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:05:01 -0700 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: A friend in the bar business asked me, when I return from HawkFest, to bring back a bottle of Absinthe. I thought it was now illegal, but he said that he thought that it no longer was. Insights? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Fri Jul 12 03:14:17 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 02:14:17 -0500 Subject: Absinthe Message-ID: Ironically I just imported two bottles of absinthe. Apparently it's legal to possess a small amount for personal consumption, but it can't be sold... the law seems a bit fuzzy here. Do your research before buying absinthe though, as there are many liquors labeled as absinthe which do not contain the active ingredient, wormwood. Be sure you're getting the real article. Le Fay Verte is a good one. John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net > A friend in the bar business asked me, when I return from HawkFest, to bring > back a bottle of Absinthe. I thought it was now illegal, but he said that > he thought that it no longer was. Insights? > > KevinSommers > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 12 03:41:12 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:41:12 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: > A friend in the bar business asked me, when I return from HawkFest, to bring > back a bottle of Absinthe. I thought it was now illegal, but he said that > he thought that it no longer was. Insights? > You can certainly buy the real thing legally in the UK now. Cheers, Rich. I'm working on a new song - "There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's that bloke out of Badfinger" Catchy huh? From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jul 12 03:58:18 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:58:18 +0800 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: What is it? LOL Never heard of the stuff. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Off: Absinthe > > A friend in the bar business asked me, when I return from HawkFest, to > bring > > back a bottle of Absinthe. I thought it was now illegal, but he said that > > he thought that it no longer was. Insights? > > > > You can certainly buy the real thing legally in the UK now. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > I'm working on a new song - > "There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's that bloke out of > Badfinger" > Catchy huh? > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 12 06:37:21 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:37:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Bronze records story sleeve notes In-Reply-To: K Henderson's message of Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:58:37 -0400 Message-ID: K Henderson writes: > Does anybody know if Simon King's (I assume) drum tracks for Levitation > still exist? If so, I for one would be interested to have this released as > another collector's series thang. I can only imagine that it would sound > *completely* different than the one we have heard all these years. Baker's > drumming was so entirely different than any other drummer HW has ever had! Yeah, I'd love to hear the Levitation album with Simon King's drumming. FoFP From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Fri Jul 12 08:00:52 2002 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:00:52 -0400 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: What sort of Hawkfan are you? It's the Space Ritual drink. Remember.. 'Space is the Absinthe of time and of matter...." Jeff From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Jul 12 08:31:29 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:31:29 -0400 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: I never heard of it before either. Although I don't drink liquor either. Tried Wormwood at a OTO ritual and about puked. Would do Jegermeister but thats it. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff P" To: Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:00 AM Subject: Re: Off: Absinthe > What sort of Hawkfan are you? It's the Space Ritual drink. > Remember.. 'Space is the Absinthe of time and of matter...." > > Jeff From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Fri Jul 12 11:32:43 2002 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:32:43 -0400 Subject: Psyche fest Message-ID: Check out http://soundexchangehouston.com/tpf/ I looks like parts of this will be broadcast on Aural Innovations. Jerry From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Jul 12 13:33:48 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:33:48 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual Sundown Deluxe Edition Message-ID: CDNow/Amazon et al list this as having an expected release date of Aug 13 2002. Is this the next Collector's Series release? An unedited tape of the gig making up the bulk of the Space Ritual release? Does anyone know anything about it? Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Jul 12 13:34:54 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:34:54 -0400 Subject: HW: Bronze records story sleeve notes Message-ID: > Does anybody know if Simon King's (I assume) drum tracks for > Levitation still exist? If so, I for one would be interested > to have this released as another collector's series thang... > I guess we know what Motorway City sounds like with King > from the Live '79 album, but that version was different in > other ways too. I second the wish for Levitation with Simon. They should throw in lots of alternate takes too, if available. Also, for completists, there is a live version of Motorway City on the Ambient Anarchists compilation that is different from the one on Complete 79 or incomplete Live 79 and which doesn't seem to be available anywhere else. Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Jul 12 13:36:12 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:36:12 -0400 Subject: HW: actually, really RE: Off: Tull!!! but explicit HW at the end Message-ID: Keeping the embers alight... >... _Complete '79_ and _Glastonbury 1990_ are surely as valid a target >as was _Yuri Gagarin_ and _In The Beginning_ for that scenario where >someone is interested enough in Hawkwind to buy a CD, finds it >unlistenable and never tries again. G90 yes, but Complete 79? The main problem there (as I hear it) are a few glitches - but the overall sound doesn't seem too bad to me, the mix is good, there's just a pervasive fuzziness which isn't that distracting. I find it interesting that only '79 and '82 are explicitly identified as 'Collector's Series' releases on the cover artwork, when I consider those 2 to actually sound better than '76 and Glasto'90. I don't think anyone would argue differently re G90, but I do understand that it is definitely a matter of personal opinion as to whether fuzzy sound and glitches (79) are actually 'better' than clearer sound but a mix that pushes the synth/violin/sax/flute all the way into the background (76). What I think will raise no argument is the contention that SOMEONE should have done SOMETHING to the sound, after all some care was taken with the packaging and a little work on the audio might have been rewardeed handsomely. Failing that, CLEAR LABELLING of all Collector's Series releases can't be a bad thing for anybody. >Yeah, you have to look at it from several perspectives. There's the >hardkore fan (like me) who wants it all, and is more than willing to forego >sound quality for a good performance ... *I* want to be able to get all the >stuff at the local shop. Yep, from a purely selfish viewpoint, I don't care HOW I get this stuff, I just want to be able to get it. In the real world, the market forces tradeoffs and compromises (for ANY band) and I think its the rare artist who has the luxury of having figured it all out. >I think basically my stance is, "It's a pity Hawkwind are issuing >records which sound so awful, especially given how loyally we all harangue >Dave Anderson for doing it too." But they seem to have stopped doing it >now? Maybe? Speaking only for myself, I think the haranguing Dave Anderson gets should be for not paying the band rather than for the quality of what he's putting out...though a Collector's Series type label would be appropriate there too... >... The only reason I don't like 'Yuri Gagarin' is because I think the >performance is weak; the sound quality is perfectly acceptable *for what >it is* (pretty much the ONLY documentation of the post-'Space Ritual' >Calvert-fronted lineup). I actually think this is quite a strong performance! Lacking in subtlety, yes, but with a manic punk edge that was instrumental in convincing at least one doubter that HW were/are a band not to be summarily dismissed... >> P.S. If anyone's listening - Collector Series spring '84 or >> Stonehenge '84 ... PLEASE!!! > Can I add a resounding "Hell yeah" to that? Add my hell yeah too, and I'd also like to make a plug for some live 75 material, even if it doesn't have Lemmy, as long as it has a 10 minute version of Opa-Loka! Stephan From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Jul 12 13:38:32 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:38:32 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest - Starfield Message-ID: To those that asked if Starfield were playing at the Hawkfest: Starfield were asked to play by the organisers (3 times, no less) but have turned the offer down - nothing to do with money! The band felt that if they were going to do a live gig then it would have to be well rehearsed and very together, and individually the band members have too many other commitments at the moment to allow that to happen. However, Captain Black (hey, that's me!) and Richard C. will be there in person so anything is possible. But we really appreciate your support - and thanks for asking for us, it means a lot. Best Wishes, Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colm McWilliams" To: Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 7:52 PM Subject: Hawkfest - Starfield I wonder if Captain Blacks "starfield" will be playing live at the Hawkfest? Their not on the advertised line up but i would really like to see them. cheers colm From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri Jul 12 15:01:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:01:00 +0100 Subject: HW: matters Message-ID: My take on several topic sin the last digest! 1) I agree, Nik should rebrand his outfit as Brainstorm (or similar) - all HW fans would recognise the connection and there would be no legal difficulties with the official name. 2) Danny in for Richard on drums? Interesting. Danny's certainly gotten better over the years, but not in the same league as Richard. Maybe Richard's eager for a change though? The comparison with Simon King is interesting, too - Richard includes a lot of rolls which are vaguely King-ish, though at the end of the day Richard is (technically) the best drummer HW have ever had. My attachment to Simon King's work is in his organic 'feel' and almost perfect fit for the Hawkwind sound/concept. 3) Pre-Ginger Levitation tracks. Well, I set myself the task of rebuilding Levitation without Ginger a while back, and suceeded. Kind of. The CD includes live Levitation from 'Complete 79', studio Motorway City from the extra track version floating around recently, live World of Tiers from a 1980 bootleg, studio Who's Gonna Win the War from the official '45 single, Space Chase and Dust of Time also from the 1980 bootleg. Quality obviously hugely variable, but I got there in the end. No Ginger 8-)) ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 12 15:09:26 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:09:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual Sundown Deluxe Edition Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:33:48 -0400, Stephan Forstner wrote: >CDNow/Amazon et al list this as having an expected release date of Aug 13 >2002. Is this the next Collector's Series release? An unedited tape of the >gig making up the bulk of the Space Ritual release? Does anyone know >anything about it? Who wants to place bets that it's another repackaging of 'Space Ritual II'? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 12 15:19:17 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:19:17 -0400 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:58:18 +0800, Bill & Cynthia wrote: >What is it? LOL Never heard of the stuff. > >Bill As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). The name derives from the French word for "absent", which described the permanent mental condition of people who drank too much of the stuff (in other words, "like, totally gone, dude"). It was very much a staple of 19th century Parisian Bohemians (the type who would write poetry or paint or sculpt in a tiny unheated garret and eventually die of comsumption [aka tuberculosis]). It was eventually banned because of its strong effects (sort of a precursor to the "war on drugs", I guess), supposedly getting to near-hallucinatory experiences if you drink enough (I've tried the stuff, but not enough of it to test that theory!), although it's now legal in many countries. -Doug (font of alcoholic knowledge) jasret at mindspring.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 12 15:43:44 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:43:44 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: > As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is > Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with > other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). Erm, Jaegermeister is simply a cabbage liqueur. It's not the mindbending stuff that people think it is. Simply a warming winter spirit. Not in the same league as Absinthe - which is quite scary. Cheers, Rich. (But nothing beats Timothy Taylor's Landlord) Currently listening to "High Rise" From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Jul 12 17:21:28 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:21:28 -0400 Subject: Absinthe Message-ID: Hi... Absynthe is quite widely available here........... Saw it on an optic in a hotel bar last week too !... wasn't Kylie a cute Absinthe fairy in Moulin Rouge?????????? Rx From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri Jul 12 17:32:48 2002 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:32:48 -0500 Subject: Absinthe Message-ID: A pretty informative link on absynthe is here.....kinda wierd timing that this topic occurred here recently when something I read on it piqued my interest in it last week and I did a bit of checking on it: erowid.org/chemicals/absinthe/absinthe_faq.shtml From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Jul 12 18:50:41 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:50:41 +0000 Subject: HW: Space Ritual Sundown Deluxe Edition Message-ID: Hi ya, Deluxe version, does that mean I'm wasting time trying to mix vynal (from different sources) and the recent weed to create it? 8-) Stephan Forstner wrote: > > CDNow/Amazon et al list this as having an expected release date of Aug 13 > 2002. Is this the next Collector's Series release? An unedited tape of the > gig making up the bulk of the Space Ritual release? Does anyone know > anything about it? > > Stephan From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 12 17:54:25 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 17:54:25 -0400 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: mmmm...Wormwood...doesn't that sound tasty... tim Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is > > Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with > > other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). > > Erm, Jaegermeister is simply a cabbage liqueur. It's not the mindbending > stuff that people think it is. > > Simply a warming winter spirit. > > Not in the same league as Absinthe - which is quite scary. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > (But nothing beats Timothy Taylor's Landlord) > > Currently listening to "High Rise" From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Jul 12 18:15:48 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:15:48 -0400 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: Tastes like it sounds to me. I'd rather eat a worm than drink that stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Off: Absinthe > mmmm...Wormwood...doesn't that sound tasty... > tim > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is > > > Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with > > > other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). > > > > Erm, Jaegermeister is simply a cabbage liqueur. It's not the mindbending > > stuff that people think it is. > > > > Simply a warming winter spirit. > > > > Not in the same league as Absinthe - which is quite scary. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > (But nothing beats Timothy Taylor's Landlord) > > > > Currently listening to "High Rise" From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 12 19:09:42 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:09:42 -0400 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:43:44 +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: >> As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is >> Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with >> other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). > >Erm, Jaegermeister is simply a cabbage liqueur. It's not the mindbending >stuff that people think it is. To clarify, the only similarity between the two (Jaeger/Absinthe) is that both use additional herbs for flavoring. Which is why well-distilled absinthe doesn't taste quite as horrible as it sounds like it would ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jul 12 19:28:52 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:28:52 -0400 Subject: Absinthe In-Reply-To: <001901c22973$bc95b1a0$0ccf3944@cstltn01.in.comcast.net>; from jmajka2@COMCAST.NET on Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 02:14:17AM -0500 Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 02:14:17AM -0500, John Majka wrote: > Do your research before buying absinthe > though, as there are many liquors labeled as absinthe which do not contain > the active ingredient, wormwood. And apparently others that do, but taste vile -- e.g. Hill's, from the Czech Republic. So says this guy, anyway: http://www.gumbopages.com/food/beverages/absinthe.html > Be sure you're getting the real article. > Le Fay Verte is a good one. And http://www.feeverte.net/ looks like a good site. ("F?e verte" -- "green fairy" -- was apparently a common nickname for absinthe back in the day, so it doesn't necessarily follow that the site's related to -- let alone a mere brochure for -- the brand.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Jul 12 19:34:45 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:34:45 -0400 Subject: Off: Absinthe In-Reply-To: <003401c229f1$ad7eca20$8eb53318@stepheandamy>; from lindas1@ADELPHIA.NET on Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 06:15:48PM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 06:15:48PM -0400, Stephe Lindas wrote: > [wormwood] Tastes like it sounds to me. I'd rather eat a worm than drink that stuff. The worms don't like it much either. Apparently it was originally used as a tapeworm remedy. It was only later that people decided to drink it for fun (same as quinine...). -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 12 20:50:46 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Judge Trev) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:50:46 +0100 Subject: Judge Trev and ICH vid Message-ID: RFM NEWS 24th JULY TO 28TH JULY 2002 THE BIG GREEN GATHERING The Big Green Gathering will be happening on a new site this year Wednesday 24th to Sunday 28th July 2002 Since 1994 the Big Green Gathering has established its reputation as Britain's largest and liveliest Green event. EMAIL:- info at big-green-gathering.com Tel: 01932 229911. 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Judge Trev for more info: RFM Real Festival Music www.realfestivalmusic.co.uk The latest festy CD's News Forum Healers Video Downloads From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 12 21:05:28 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 21:05:28 -0400 Subject: BOC: "Chuck Burgi, where are you" Message-ID: So I'm reading the local SF musician's bulletin board on the Internet (http://www.craigslist.com/ ) and I see a message titled, "Drummer... Chuck Burgi, where are you". It's from a guy who evidently has some recordings Chuck did in the 70's, and he wants to get copies to him. So I write the guy and tell him that Sam Adato (owner of the local drum store, and a super- nice guy to boot) knows Bob Rondinelli, who (like I need to tell you guys!) replaced Chuck in B?C, and he should try getting in touch through Sam. An hour later, I get an email back from the guy thanking me 'cause he was able to get through to Chuck via that route! That never would have happened had I not: A) been in Sam's shop he mentioned Bob as a regular customer when he comes through town, and B) been on this list ('cause otherwise I probably wouldn't know that *either one* had/does drum/med for B?C) My good deed for the day, I guess ... (sorry for the very marginal on- topicness, but I HAD to share that) ... have a great weekend, -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 12 22:04:57 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 03:04:57 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: Van Gogh cut his ear off whilst under the influence of absinthe... "Self portrait with razor and bandage" Ow, ow, ow. At least we're not trying to kill each other here tonight, which is more than can be said for some other lists I've been on - and one incident which has had me physically standing between two friends, both of whom are much bigger than me, trying to stop them from pulling each others ears off (and kicking their teeth through their respective arses...) I'm going to listen to High Rise before I go to bed. I need something to mellow me out before tomorrow's school reunion... Aaaaargh. Cheers, Rich. > mmmm...Wormwood...doesn't that sound tasty... > tim > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is > > > Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with > > > other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). > > > > Erm, Jaegermeister is simply a cabbage liqueur. It's not the mindbending > > stuff that people think it is. > > > > Simply a warming winter spirit. > > > > Not in the same league as Absinthe - which is quite scary. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > (But nothing beats Timothy Taylor's Landlord) > > > > Currently listening to "High Rise" > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Jul 12 22:06:09 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 03:06:09 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: Ever tried Bombay Surprise (or "Sapphiire" as it says on the label). They used to market it in the UK as "Gin, but different." Too fucking right! :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Re: Off: Absinthe > On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 20:43:44 +0100, Richard Lockwood > wrote: > >> As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is > >> Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with > >> other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). > > > >Erm, Jaegermeister is simply a cabbage liqueur. It's not the mindbending > >stuff that people think it is. > > To clarify, the only similarity between the two (Jaeger/Absinthe) is that > both use additional herbs for flavoring. Which is why well-distilled > absinthe doesn't taste quite as horrible as it sounds like it would ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Jul 13 05:24:18 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:24:18 +1000 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: Dont go. That is my cunning tactic for a 25 year reunion in November. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Off: Absinthe > Van Gogh cut his ear off whilst under the influence of absinthe... > > "Self portrait with razor and bandage" > > Ow, ow, ow. > > At least we're not trying to kill each other here tonight, which is more > than can be said for some other lists I've been on - and one incident which > has had me physically standing between two friends, both of whom are much > bigger than me, trying to stop them from pulling each others ears off (and > kicking their teeth through their respective arses...) > > I'm going to listen to High Rise before I go to bed. > > I need something to mellow me out before tomorrow's school reunion... > > Aaaaargh. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > mmmm...Wormwood...doesn't that sound tasty... > > tim > > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > > > As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is > > > > Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along > with > > > > other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). > > > > > > Erm, Jaegermeister is simply a cabbage liqueur. It's not the > mindbending > > > stuff that people think it is. > > > > > > Simply a warming winter spirit. > > > > > > Not in the same league as Absinthe - which is quite scary. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > (But nothing beats Timothy Taylor's Landlord) > > > > > > Currently listening to "High Rise" > > > From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Jul 13 06:36:30 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:36:30 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: I bought a bottle of something "wor lass" described as absinthe - damn right!!!! it is scary!! Rat. Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is > > Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with > > other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). > > Erm, Jaegermeister is simply a cabbage liqueur. It's not the mindbending > stuff that people think it is. > > Simply a warming winter spirit. > > Not in the same league as Absinthe - which is quite scary. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > (But nothing beats Timothy Taylor's Landlord) > > Currently listening to "High Rise" From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jul 13 07:16:35 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:16:35 +0800 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: Thanks Doug I think I'll stick to beer. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 3:19 AM Subject: Re: Off: Absinthe > On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 15:58:18 +0800, Bill & Cynthia > wrote: > >What is it? LOL Never heard of the stuff. > > > >Bill > > As has been noted, it's a strong liquor whose primary ingredient is > Wormwood (just as it's Juniper Berries for gin, for instance), along with > other herbs (somewhat along the lines of Jagermeister). The name derives > from the French word for "absent", which described the permanent mental > condition of people who drank too much of the stuff (in other words, "like, > totally gone, dude"). It was very much a staple of 19th century Parisian > Bohemians (the type who would write poetry or paint or sculpt in a tiny > unheated garret and eventually die of comsumption [aka tuberculosis]). It > was eventually banned because of its strong effects (sort of a precursor to > the "war on drugs", I guess), supposedly getting to near-hallucinatory > experiences if you drink enough (I've tried the stuff, but not enough of it > to test that theory!), although it's now legal in many countries. > > -Doug (font of alcoholic knowledge) > jasret at mindspring.com > From mlooney at COX.NET Sat Jul 13 09:35:41 2002 From: mlooney at COX.NET (Mike Looney) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 08:35:41 -0500 Subject: BOC Comix strip reference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Submitted with out comment. http://www.ucomics.com/adamathome/2002/07/13/ From kruch7 at COX.NET Sat Jul 13 09:53:39 2002 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Joseph Elric Smith Mormon minion of Arioch) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 09:53:39 -0400 Subject: BOC Comix strip reference Message-ID: LOL that is so freaken true, aint none of us getting any younger, ken OMG I have a 20 year High school reunion coming up when did everyone else get so old? Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comics Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil than you http://www.geocities.com/J_Elric_Smith/Index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Looney" To: Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:35 AM Subject: BOC Comix strip reference > Submitted with out comment. > > http://www.ucomics.com/adamathome/2002/07/13/ From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sat Jul 13 11:16:56 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:16:56 +0100 Subject: HW: matters Message-ID: Steve Litchfield wrote: >2) Danny in for Richard on drums? Interesting. Danny's certainly gotten >better over the years, but not in the same league as Richard. Maybe >Richard's eager for a change though? Huh? I thought Danny was back in *alongside* Richard? Dave From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Jul 13 16:44:31 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 21:44:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: National Steam Message-ID: ... it just struck me... how great it would be if Ohio based band National Steam put out a single or an EP with "The Sutler" and "Ode To Death" off their fine 1998 CD debut on Eternity's Jest records - it certainly would make a nice collector's item and an immortalised slab of fine sounding gothrock too... ...the band's brooding and dark sound is reminiscent of Tangerine Dream ca. "Alpha Centauri" and "Phaedra" and Peter Hammill's better 70's and 80's output with and without Van Der Graaf Generator ca. "Still Life", "In Camera" and "Nadir's Big Chance", as well as the music from the first "Alien" movie. Spooky synths bring to mind The Legendary Pink Dots ca. "Legendary Pink Box" with some guitarwork leaning a little towards Huw Lloyd Langton's classic 80's stint with Hawkwind on albums like "Sonic Attack" or "Xenon Codex", as well as echoes of early Sisters of Mercy ca. "First And Last And Always". "as long as he controls his destiny...a mover, a shaker a wheeler, a dealer, sailing the oceans of opportunity..." - 'The Sutler' by National Steam "... I walk through the valley of the shadow... I fear no-one... I will come for you someday... Satan is my poker buddy, Magog's my friend..." - 'Ode To Death' by National Steam I created all the art and packaging on this excellent CD for a mere $150 in payment plus promotion copies which I handed out on a local radio show I hosted some years back. I am always looking for more paid illustration jobs in this field, as well as in the general art world as well with my otherwise long standing background in mainstream and underground horror and humour comics and in the underground in general, both as a writer and an artist and a painter, as well as other paid production and technical work with major publishers and film studios. The front cover illustration of National Steam's debut CD of a fiery train blasting through space can be found at http://www.quarkspace.com/NSTEAM.HTM . The art was scanned and recreated in Photoshop with Kai's Power Tools and a lathe renderer through several photo filters for a faded and grainy 3D look, while the inside booklet photo remains in worthy black-and-white tribute to the SST-patented style of the early SubPop label. The eerie back artwork is a moody photo of the fiery summer evening skies over Oslo's west side, a rusty Commodore 64 computer-style lettering for the track listing expressing the moody and epic style of the album. Contact me at the email address above after removing spamblock for inquiries. hellbent for leather, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/reamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Sat Jul 13 17:10:39 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 22:10:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: National Steam - repost Message-ID: ... it just struck me... how great it would be if Ohio based band National Steam put out a single or an EP with "The Sutler" and "Ode To Death" off their fine 1998 CD debut on Eternity's Jest records - it certainly would make a nice collector's item and an immortalised slab of fine sounding gothrock too... ...the band's brooding and dark sound is reminiscent of Tangerine Dream ca. "Alpha Centauri" and "Phaedra" and Peter Hammill's better 70's and 80's output with and without Van Der Graaf Generator ca. "Still Life", "In Camera" and "Nadir's Big Chance", as well as the music from the first "Alien" movie. Spooky synths bring to mind The Legendary Pink Dots ca. "Legendary Pink Box" with some guitarwork leaning a little towards Huw Lloyd Langton's classic 80's stint with Hawkwind on albums like "Sonic Attack" or "Xenon Codex", as well as echoes of early Sisters of Mercy ca. "First And Last And Always". "as long as he controls his destiny...a mover, a shaker a wheeler, a dealer, sailing the oceans of opportunity..." - 'The Sutler' by National Steam "... I walk through the valley of the shadow... I fear no-one... I will come for you someday... Satan is my poker buddy, Magog's my friend..." - 'Ode To Death' by National Steam I created all the art and packaging on this excellent CD for a mere $150 in payment plus promotion copies which I handed out on a local radio show I hosted some years back. I am always looking for more paid illustration jobs in this field, as well as in the general art world as well with my otherwise long standing background in mainstream and underground horror and humour comics and in the underground in general, both as a writer and an artist and a painter, as well as other paid production and technical work with major publishers and film studios. The front cover illustration of National Steam's debut CD of a fiery train blasting through space can be found at http://www.quarkspace.com/NSTEAM.HTM . The art was scanned and recreated in Photoshop with Kai's Power Tools and a lathe renderer through several photo filters for a faded and grainy 3D look, while the inside booklet photo remains in worthy black-and-white tribute to the SST-patented style of the early SubPop label. The eerie back artwork is a moody photo of the fiery summer evening skies over Oslo's west side, a rusty Commodore 64 computer-style lettering for the track listing expressing the moody and epic style of the album. Contact me at the email address for inquiries. hellbent for leather, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Sun Jul 14 00:17:40 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:17:40 -0500 Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go Message-ID: Well it's only a few more days until I leave for England... can anyone suggest cool record and book stores to go to in London? John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From novadrive at COX.NET Sun Jul 14 04:34:17 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 01:34:17 -0700 Subject: Absinthe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So, one more question: is it widely available, or will I have to expend some time in finding it? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of KevinSommers > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:05 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Off: Absinthe > > > A friend in the bar business asked me, when I return from > HawkFest, to bring > back a bottle of Absinthe. I thought it was now illegal, but he said that > he thought that it no longer was. Insights? > > KevinSommers > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Sun Jul 14 06:00:01 2002 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:00:01 +0100 Subject: Absinthe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's entirely legal now and you can get it at any reasonably well stocked off license - I've even seen it in Tesco's. Bot it's bloody expensive (about 25 quid a bottle) for what it is so if you can find a REALLY good off license you'll be able to get one of those miniatures for a couple of quid. One last thing! I hope you've got an asbestos liner for your mouth and throat cos this stuff burns like a bitch - quite nice though! And an interesting aftertaste! Lotsa luck and let us know what you think Horse On 14 Jul 2002 at 1:34, KevinSommers wrote: > So, one more question: is it widely available, or will I have to expend some > time in finding it? > > > KevinSommers > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of KevinSommers > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:05 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Off: Absinthe > > > > > > A friend in the bar business asked me, when I return from > > HawkFest, to bring > > back a bottle of Absinthe. I thought it was now illegal, but he said that > > he thought that it no longer was. Insights? > > > > KevinSommers > > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 14 06:26:16 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:26:16 +0100 Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go Message-ID: Book Store: Foyles, at the top of Charing Cross Road - chaotic but they have some really unusual stuff. Any of the 2nd hand bookstores on Charing Cross Road are also worth a look. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Majka" To: Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:17 AM Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go > Well it's only a few more days until I leave for England... can anyone > suggest cool record and book stores to go to in London? > John Majka > jmajka2 at comcast.net > From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jul 14 06:29:59 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:29:59 -0400 Subject: Psyche fest Message-ID: >Check out http://soundexchangehouston.com/tpf/ I looks like parts of this will >be broadcast on Aural Innovations. I'm pretty excited about this. Note that this won't be simulcast. I'm waaaaaaay too lo-tech for that. The organizers will be recording the fest and then later on sending me CDR's of what they want broadcast. Then I'll be putting them online in RealAudio just like the rest of the AI shows. Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations Space Rock E-Zine & Radio http://Aural-Innovations.com From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Sun Jul 14 10:57:28 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:57:28 -0300 Subject: Ready to Fly!!! Message-ID: Hi everyone, Mike Burro here. Just wanted to say, we are totally psyched to fly!!! Looking forward to meeting many of you, and seeing old friends (at festival). Just in case you haven't yet seen our festival lineup, you can access that info at: http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com Peace, Mike From sheep at BOMB1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 14 22:10:07 2002 From: sheep at BOMB1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Sheep) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:10:07 +0100 Subject: Absinthe Message-ID: Three words, I love absinthe, Have had a couple of bottles in last few months. If you are new to the stuff I have two recommendations, Absinthe and red bull is simple but prone to causing mental nights in Dingy rock clubs. Second though if you're after something a bit more subtle try an absinthe flamer. This is as close as you get to the way the victorians did absinthe. Instructions. 1) Pour a good large sht into bottom of thick preferably flame proof glass. 2) Set aside a jug of WARM water equal in quantity to your absinthe. 3) Take a tea spoon of cane (or normal white) sugar in your grubby mitts. 4) Soak sugar in Absinthe from glass. 5) Set fire to Absinthe coated sugar. 6) Allow sugar to caramalise. 7) Dump caramalised sugar into glass and stir in water. 8) Sit back, enjoy both your drink and the admiring looks of a bar full of less cultured punters. ***** IMPORTANT NOTE***** To avoid looking like a complete arse, try not to set fire to yourself, the table or any of your mates. Beleive me after a few flamers this becomes increasingly difficult. From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Jul 15 03:51:53 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:51:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: New cover Message-ID: Finally, the Slayer - BOC connection:-) Systematic have posted a version of Blue Oyster Cult?s ?Career Of Evil? on their official website, www.systematic1.com. This is their first recording with new drummer Paul Bostaph, formerly with Slayer of course. The band are to record a new album soon with producer Howard Benson. From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 08:30:31 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:31 +0100 Subject: BOC: Joe Bouchard in the UK Message-ID: I`ve been mainly on the HW side of this list for many years but thought in polite to pass this on in case any BOC UK fans were interested. This is an Alice Cooper event so be aware the emphisis will be very much (almost totally) on that band, however with Joe Bouchard there, I`m sure he`d appreciate a few BOC fans to support him, maybe even just for the evening gig. The band have been known to play '..Reaper' live and they have a cracking version of Fallen Angel on their album. Apologies if this is old news now in BOC circles, I only see the messages on this list. Feel free to post it on to other BOC forums if they don`t already know and may be interested. -------------- SICKCON1 - The 1st UK Unofficial Alice Cooper Convention is set to happen on Saturday 2nd November 2002 at the Limelight Club in Crewe. It will run from Midday until around midnight or so and feature film, a quiz, Kareoke, stalls, memorbilia and stuff like that. But best of all, making an appearance at the convention will be NEAL SMITH, DENNIS DUNAWAY and JOE BOUCHARD who will be attending with their new band B.D.S. both in the afternoon for convention attendees AND in the evening for a full show. This is the first time Neal and Dennis have had a show announced in the UK for around 30 years! Not to be missed! Tickets are ?15 for the day and ?10 for the evening show only. If you want to go to the Convention then check out http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/convention/ to find more info and downloadable booking form including booking info, accomadation info and stuff like that. Convention tickets for the day are limited but the evening show will be open to all as space allows. This is being organised as a joint event between SickthingsUK (me basically), Lynda and Andrew at Top Hat Events, who are huge fans, and Jerkin` Crocus Promotions limited. It is being put together by fans for fans. Any questions can be addressed to me (si at sickthingsuk.co.uk) or Lynda at the above address and we`ll answer them as best we can. Si The Alice Cooper Trivia File: www.sickthingsuk.co.uk SickCon1 - Unofficial UK Alice Cooper Convention: http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/convention/ From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Mon Jul 15 09:08:06 2002 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:08:06 +0200 Subject: OFF:Sundial news Message-ID: Hej, I know there are quite a few Sundial fans out there. Here is the lastest news. I hope someone will record the gig! Thank you for your note. The sundial gig is on saturday19th october @ Ocean 3 in london. Support group will be Quad!!! (although we don't know yet who's playing, but will feature the sitar player from cornershop). The full details are yet to be confirmed or ticket prices, but it may be the only chance to catch the band live for some time. There's also a special 7" gig freebie which will be only available at the venue on the night. The sundial line-up will be: Gary Ramon (gtr), Moonus (bass/moogs), Julie Wood (from C93 on flutes,violin/keyboards), Peter Dunton (drums - from T2). Gary is also involved with C93 so probably any fans of Current 93 would probably also want to make the trip! There is a new sundial 45 out soon along with a Groop 7" (also related to sundial). As we understand there will be a new sundial LP due later this year! scott ObCD: Trottel- Stereodream experience (hungary 2002) From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 15 10:26:52 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:26:52 -0400 Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go Message-ID: For Hawkwind CDs I always think HMV in Oxford Street is the best. It's a big highstreet store but they seem to stock the most Hawkwind. Selectadisk down Berwick Street is not so good for Hawkwind but good for other alternative stuff. Tower records at Picadilly is ok. For books, as Colin has already said, Foyles is the place. Charing Cross road is lined with bookshops, new and second hand. When you get near the bottom by Trafalgar Square check out the side streets on your left such as Cecil Court for the specialist bookshops. Regards, Alastair. On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:17:40 -0500, John Majka wrote: >Well it's only a few more days until I leave for England... can anyone >suggest cool record and book stores to go to in London? >John Majka >jmajka2 at comcast.net From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Mon Jul 15 11:31:18 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:31:18 -0500 Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go In-Reply-To: <001301c22aed$64e15560$0ccf3944@cstltn01.in.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, John Majka wrote: :Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go : :Well it's only a few more days until I leave for England... can anyone :suggest cool record and book stores to go to in London? :John Majka :jmajka2 at comcast.net If you like science fiction and fantasy, I cannot recommend Fantasy Centre (http://www.fantasycentre.demon.co.uk/) highly enough. Via Tube, they are just off the Picadilly Line.... New Worlds and Murder One aren't bad, either. (location: charing cross road just by the Leicester Square station.) Forbidden Planet is ye olde standard. The London one is decent. Location is on Oxford St? (get off at tottenham ct rd.....) What I want to know is where have all the decent used and secondhand bookshops gone? Not, mind, that I should be shopping this trip, since that means I've got to carry all my purchases, but still ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 13:32:59 2002 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:32:59 +0100 Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go Message-ID: For music books...Helter Skelter in Denmark Street (road opposite Foyles - i think?) Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Sumner" To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: HW Fest: cool places to go > For Hawkwind CDs I always think HMV in Oxford Street is the best. It's a > big highstreet store but they seem to stock the most Hawkwind. Selectadisk > down Berwick Street is not so good for Hawkwind but good for other > alternative stuff. Tower records at Picadilly is ok. For books, as Colin > has already said, Foyles is the place. Charing Cross road is lined with > bookshops, new and second hand. When you get near the bottom by Trafalgar > Square check out the side streets on your left such as Cecil Court for the > specialist bookshops. > > Regards, > Alastair. > > On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:17:40 -0500, John Majka wrote: > > >Well it's only a few more days until I leave for England... can anyone > >suggest cool record and book stores to go to in London? > >John Majka > >jmajka2 at comcast.net > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 15 13:46:18 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:46:18 -0500 Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go Message-ID: >>> >>>> Selectadisk on Berwick St, actually had a good range of Hawk stuff last time I was in, and it was a bunch cheaper than anywhere else. Go there before you hit any megastoreplaces. Tower is best for Japanese imports :-) But expensive. HMV probably do have the best range of stuff. If you're looking out for ambient stuff at all check out Ambient Soho(now moved to camden) they have alot of deleted planet dog stuff and other weirdness you won't find elsewhere. If you're into world/ethnic music of any sort head to Warren Street Tube Stop, and there is a beautiful world music shop nearby, though the name escapes me for the minute(Can anyone remind me?). Close by Picadilly circus is the biggest bookshop in Europe(Waterstones), though not as cool as the specialist shops, it does have a massive stockpile of books. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Sumner" To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:26 AM Subject: Re: HW Fest: cool places to go > For Hawkwind CDs I always think HMV in Oxford Street is the best. It's a > big highstreet store but they seem to stock the most Hawkwind. Selectadisk > down Berwick Street is not so good for Hawkwind but good for other > alternative stuff. Tower records at Picadilly is ok. For books, as Colin > has already said, Foyles is the place. Charing Cross road is lined with > bookshops, new and second hand. When you get near the bottom by Trafalgar > Square check out the side streets on your left such as Cecil Court for the > specialist bookshops. > > Regards, > Alastair. > > On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:17:40 -0500, John Majka wrote: > > >Well it's only a few more days until I leave for England... can anyone > >suggest cool record and book stores to go to in London? > >John Majka > >jmajka2 at comcast.net From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jul 15 12:10:12 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:10:12 -0300 Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? Also stone monolith or circle? Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jul 15 14:45:28 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:45:28 -0400 Subject: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: If your coming from London, stop at Stonehenge. Thats what we're planning to do. Hopefully we will be allowed to go in. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burro Mike" To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? Also stone monolith or circle? Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jul 15 15:02:07 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:02:07 -0400 Subject: BOC Comix strip reference In-Reply-To: <00b001c22a74$b1449530$6f7ba8c0@kenneith93j41k>; from kruch7@COX.NET on Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 09:53:39AM -0400 Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 09:53:39AM -0400, Joseph Elric Smith Mormon minion of Arioch wrote: > OMG I have a 20 year High school reunion coming up when did everyone else > get so old? 6 years ago :-/ -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jul 15 15:26:07 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:26:07 -0400 Subject: BOC Comix strip reference In-Reply-To: <20020715150207.D1638@telepres.com> Message-ID: Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 09:53:39AM -0400, Joseph Elric Smith Mormon minion of > Arioch wrote: >> OMG I have a 20 year High school reunion coming up when did everyone else >> get so old? > > 6 years ago :-/ Never fear. BOC is still known and appreciated by the young crowd. I was throwing a party for my girlfriend last night when a 25-year-old friend of hers saw my guitar. She asked me what songs I knew and I told her I could play the riff to Don't Fear the Reaper. (I'm pretty new at guitar.) She said she loved that song and wanted me to play it for her. Also last night, a 30-year-old acquaintance of ours was looking through my CDs. He recognized BOC and said that Joe Bouchard had been a brother in his fraternity at Ithaca College. Obviously the frat still takes great pride in having him for a brother. 9 years removed from my own High School graduation, Brian From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jul 15 15:40:39 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:40:39 -0400 Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go In-Reply-To: <001301c22aed$64e15560$0ccf3944@cstltn01.in.comcast.net>; from jmajka2@COMCAST.NET on Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 11:17:40PM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 11:17:40PM -0500, John Majka wrote: > Well it's only a few more days until I leave for England... can anyone > suggest cool record and book stores to go to in London? > John Majka > jmajka2 at comcast.net The Music and Video Exchange: http://www.mveshops.co.uk/interestingstuff/recordshopping.htm#38NHG /<- Pembridge Portobello->\ / \ | -| | ** ---------------------------------- Notting Hill Gate Notting Hill Gate tube stop. Upstairs is where they keep the good stuff (esp. vinyl); lots of Krautrock etc. And it's where I finally found a copy of New Worlds Fair many years ago, after searching for just ages. For HW fans, you can consider this place to be the souvenir shop at the end of your pilgrimage to Portobello Road :-) There are a zillion sister shops all called "The XYZ Exchange", wrapping around the corner onto Pembridge. From the web site, I'm pretty sure it's the one at 38 NHG that I have in mind. Have fun. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 17:00:13 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:00:13 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- > From: Burro Mike > > Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? > Also stone monolith or circle? > > Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Now here's an interesting question! Castles in Devon are a bit few and far between - you really need to go somwhere people were fighting each other on a regular basis - Scotland, Wales. My tourist map of Devon suggests Dartmouth Castle (about 25 miles S of Exeter along the coast) "a beautiful 15th century castle spectacturaly set beside the Dart Estuary" is worth a visit. However Sherborne in Dorset is probably the place to aim for. It's sort-of on the way (on the A30) if you detour a bit coming south from Bristol and has two castles. Sherborne Castle was built by Sir Walter Raleigh in 1594 and Sherborne Old Castle was once owned by Sir Walter Raleigh. Cromwell took 16 days to capture it and reduced it to ruins. The best Devon stone circles (an maybe the only ones?) are all to be found on Dartmoor which is a wonderful place to visit but perhaps a bit out of the way for you? The best thing would be to visit Stonehenge in Wiltshire. An even better plan if you are travelling towards Devon by car is to go through the Avebury complex of monuments first (about 15 miles S of Swindon). Here is the magnificent West Kennet Neolithic longbarrow, Avebury Henge surrounding an entire village, and Silbury Hill (a massive artificial burial mound). Then head south to Stonebenge and another burial monument cluster and then west through Shaftesbury (alternative castle here: 14th century "unusual hexagonal rins") or Sherborne before turning south towards Axminster and Exeter and the coast. I am also delighted to discover that there is an Iron Age hillfort nearby which I definitely plan to visit. cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Jul 15 17:12:35 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:12:35 +0100 Subject: Attn. Kevin Perry. Message-ID: Kevin, Are you the person who phoned me this afternoon (monday) re tickets for the Hawkfest? Please reply ASAP on Hotline telephone number. Tone. From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jul 15 15:54:29 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:54:29 -0300 Subject: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: Thanks for all that information. much appreciated. To be quite honest I don't think we'll be seeing much in the way of castles or circles, because we are traveling by train. Peace, MIke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle ----- Original Message ----- > From: Burro Mike > > Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? > Also stone monolith or circle? > > Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Now here's an interesting question! Castles in Devon are a bit few and far between - you really need to go somwhere people were fighting each other on a regular basis - Scotland, Wales. My tourist map of Devon suggests Dartmouth Castle (about 25 miles S of Exeter along the coast) "a beautiful 15th century castle spectacturaly set beside the Dart Estuary" is worth a visit. However Sherborne in Dorset is probably the place to aim for. It's sort-of on the way (on the A30) if you detour a bit coming south from Bristol and has two castles. Sherborne Castle was built by Sir Walter Raleigh in 1594 and Sherborne Old Castle was once owned by Sir Walter Raleigh. Cromwell took 16 days to capture it and reduced it to ruins. The best Devon stone circles (an maybe the only ones?) are all to be found on Dartmoor which is a wonderful place to visit but perhaps a bit out of the way for you? The best thing would be to visit Stonehenge in Wiltshire. An even better plan if you are travelling towards Devon by car is to go through the Avebury complex of monuments first (about 15 miles S of Swindon). Here is the magnificent West Kennet Neolithic longbarrow, Avebury Henge surrounding an entire village, and Silbury Hill (a massive artificial burial mound). Then head south to Stonebenge and another burial monument cluster and then west through Shaftesbury (alternative castle here: 14th century "unusual hexagonal rins") or Sherborne before turning south towards Axminster and Exeter and the coast. I am also delighted to discover that there is an Iron Age hillfort nearby which I definitely plan to visit. cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jul 15 16:02:33 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:02:33 -0300 Subject: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: PS: We will only have one free day of travel on Monday & that day has to end at the airport! Cheers..Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Burro Mike Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:57 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Thanks for all that information. much appreciated. To be quite honest I don't think we'll be seeing much in the way of castles or circles, because we are traveling by train. Peace, MIke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle ----- Original Message ----- > From: Burro Mike > > Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? > Also stone monolith or circle? > > Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Now here's an interesting question! Castles in Devon are a bit few and far between - you really need to go somwhere people were fighting each other on a regular basis - Scotland, Wales. My tourist map of Devon suggests Dartmouth Castle (about 25 miles S of Exeter along the coast) "a beautiful 15th century castle spectacturaly set beside the Dart Estuary" is worth a visit. However Sherborne in Dorset is probably the place to aim for. It's sort-of on the way (on the A30) if you detour a bit coming south from Bristol and has two castles. Sherborne Castle was built by Sir Walter Raleigh in 1594 and Sherborne Old Castle was once owned by Sir Walter Raleigh. Cromwell took 16 days to capture it and reduced it to ruins. The best Devon stone circles (an maybe the only ones?) are all to be found on Dartmoor which is a wonderful place to visit but perhaps a bit out of the way for you? The best thing would be to visit Stonehenge in Wiltshire. An even better plan if you are travelling towards Devon by car is to go through the Avebury complex of monuments first (about 15 miles S of Swindon). Here is the magnificent West Kennet Neolithic longbarrow, Avebury Henge surrounding an entire village, and Silbury Hill (a massive artificial burial mound). Then head south to Stonebenge and another burial monument cluster and then west through Shaftesbury (alternative castle here: 14th century "unusual hexagonal rins") or Sherborne before turning south towards Axminster and Exeter and the coast. I am also delighted to discover that there is an Iron Age hillfort nearby which I definitely plan to visit. cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 18:02:30 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:02:30 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: Hi Mike, For castles, I would recommend Nunny castle in Somerset. It is about 2 hours away but I love it, mostly because my family used to own it before granny gave it to the national trust. Near to the festival site, there are Roman mines which are well worth seeing. If you want stone circles etc, then Stonehenge is a must see, as is the complex at Avebury (better than Stonehenge IMHO) and there are masses of stone rows etc on Dartmoor (further down into Devon). Cheers, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burro Mike" To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? Also stone monolith or circle? Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 18:06:58 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:06:58 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: Another good castle is Berry Pomeroy, a romatic ruin which dates from the 12th to 16th century. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle ----- Original Message ----- > From: Burro Mike > > Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? > Also stone monolith or circle? > > Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Now here's an interesting question! Castles in Devon are a bit few and far between - you really need to go somwhere people were fighting each other on a regular basis - Scotland, Wales. My tourist map of Devon suggests Dartmouth Castle (about 25 miles S of Exeter along the coast) "a beautiful 15th century castle spectacturaly set beside the Dart Estuary" is worth a visit. However Sherborne in Dorset is probably the place to aim for. It's sort-of on the way (on the A30) if you detour a bit coming south from Bristol and has two castles. Sherborne Castle was built by Sir Walter Raleigh in 1594 and Sherborne Old Castle was once owned by Sir Walter Raleigh. Cromwell took 16 days to capture it and reduced it to ruins. The best Devon stone circles (an maybe the only ones?) are all to be found on Dartmoor which is a wonderful place to visit but perhaps a bit out of the way for you? The best thing would be to visit Stonehenge in Wiltshire. An even better plan if you are travelling towards Devon by car is to go through the Avebury complex of monuments first (about 15 miles S of Swindon). Here is the magnificent West Kennet Neolithic longbarrow, Avebury Henge surrounding an entire village, and Silbury Hill (a massive artificial burial mound). Then head south to Stonebenge and another burial monument cluster and then west through Shaftesbury (alternative castle here: 14th century "unusual hexagonal rins") or Sherborne before turning south towards Axminster and Exeter and the coast. I am also delighted to discover that there is an Iron Age hillfort nearby which I definitely plan to visit. cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jul 15 16:16:45 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:16:45 -0300 Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: Roman mines and Iron age hill forts sound just right to me. I am planting myself at the fest, but am willing to venture off for a few hours...Cheers, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin J Allen Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Hi Mike, For castles, I would recommend Nunny castle in Somerset. It is about 2 hours away but I love it, mostly because my family used to own it before granny gave it to the national trust. Near to the festival site, there are Roman mines which are well worth seeing. If you want stone circles etc, then Stonehenge is a must see, as is the complex at Avebury (better than Stonehenge IMHO) and there are masses of stone rows etc on Dartmoor (further down into Devon). Cheers, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burro Mike" To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? Also stone monolith or circle? Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 18:40:35 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:40:35 +0100 Subject: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: No problem!. Start early. Hire a car at the nearest town, travel north and east a bit and you can probably drive through most of these places before you have to turn west towards Bristol on your way to the airport. cheers! jill (Selling England...) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Burro Mike To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:02 PM Subject: Re: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle PS: We will only have one free day of travel on Monday & that day has to end at the airport! Cheers..Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Burro Mike Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:57 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Thanks for all that information. much appreciated. To be quite honest I don't think we'll be seeing much in the way of castles or circles, because we are traveling by train. Peace, MIke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle ----- Original Message ----- > From: Burro Mike > > Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? > Also stone monolith or circle? > > Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Now here's an interesting question! Castles in Devon are a bit few and far between - you really need to go somwhere people were fighting each other on a regular basis - Scotland, Wales. My tourist map of Devon suggests Dartmouth Castle (about 25 miles S of Exeter along the coast) "a beautiful 15th century castle spectacturaly set beside the Dart Estuary" is worth a visit. However Sherborne in Dorset is probably the place to aim for. It's sort-of on the way (on the A30) if you detour a bit coming south from Bristol and has two castles. Sherborne Castle was built by Sir Walter Raleigh in 1594 and Sherborne Old Castle was once owned by Sir Walter Raleigh. Cromwell took 16 days to capture it and reduced it to ruins. The best Devon stone circles (an maybe the only ones?) are all to be found on Dartmoor which is a wonderful place to visit but perhaps a bit out of the way for you? The best thing would be to visit Stonehenge in Wiltshire. An even better plan if you are travelling towards Devon by car is to go through the Avebury complex of monuments first (about 15 miles S of Swindon). Here is the magnificent West Kennet Neolithic longbarrow, Avebury Henge surrounding an entire village, and Silbury Hill (a massive artificial burial mound). Then head south to Stonebenge and another burial monument cluster and then west through Shaftesbury (alternative castle here: 14th century "unusual hexagonal rins") or Sherborne before turning south towards Axminster and Exeter and the coast. I am also delighted to discover that there is an Iron Age hillfort nearby which I definitely plan to visit. cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Mon Jul 15 19:18:28 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:18:28 -0500 Subject: HW fest: where should I stay? Message-ID: Where should I stay while in London (I'll be there for a few days before and after the fest)? Any recommendations as to general locale? I'd like to be near record stores, bookstores, restaurants... cool stuff.... Then too, regarding the fest, I'm not too keen on camping and would prefer a hotel... is exeter near enough for driving between fest and lodging? John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 19:25:41 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:25:41 +0100 Subject: BOC Comix strip reference Message-ID: On Saturday. 1983 I left. The day I started playing bass. :-) And I realised why I never kept in touch with these people in the first place. My advice is "keep in touch with the people you've kept in touch with anyway". If anyone's interested, there's a picture at http://www.sloshed.co.uk Still, the managing director of Double 2 shirts gave me a lift home. Didn't offer me the rebuild on his website though! Cheers, Rich. > On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 09:53:39AM -0400, Joseph Elric Smith Mormon minion of Arioch wrote: > > OMG I have a 20 year High school reunion coming up when did everyone else > > get so old? > > 6 years ago :-/ > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; > whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. > - Paul Schneider-Esleben > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 19:29:39 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:29:39 +0100 Subject: HW fest: where should I stay? Message-ID: You want to be in London and stay in Exeter? I know that Americans will drive 300 miles for a pizza, but that's pushing it a bit! Look up the Holiday Inn or Travel Inn websites, or... where do you want to be near - I've got a book of B & Bs to hand for the next ten minutes (00:30am GMT, 7:30pm Eastern, 3:00pm Pacific) (I know these things now after my honeymoon and trying to watch the world cup!!!!) Cheers, Rich. > Where should I stay while in London (I'll be there for a few days before and > after the fest)? Any recommendations as to general locale? I'd like to be > near record stores, bookstores, restaurants... cool stuff.... > > Then too, regarding the fest, I'm not too keen on camping and would prefer a > hotel... is exeter near enough for driving between fest and lodging? > > John Majka > jmajka2 at comcast.net > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 15 20:45:02 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:45:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Stray Cats Message-ID: No HW or BOC content in this one I'm afraid. Matt, the guitarist in BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY gave me a CD on Friday, with a shed load of Stray Cats MP3s on it, and I've only just got round to listening to it. (For any Americans listening, a "shed load" is halfway between a "shit load" and a "fuck load".) Fuck me they were good. Just thought I'd pass that on. What I'd give to see Wilko Johnson and Brian Setzer on the same stage... Cheers, Rich. ps. Oh, and while I'm here, there's a chance that BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY may have to change their name. :-( So, if you see an advert for "The Grumblemags", come and see us. pps. That's probably an English joke. Americans can email me off list for an explaination. pps. Hi Larry! Hope you're OK! From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Jul 15 22:18:53 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:18:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Stray Cats Message-ID: Saw Lee Rocker about 2 years ago,really great show,no cats stuff tho. tim Richard Lockwood wrote: > > No HW or BOC content in this one I'm afraid. > > Matt, the guitarist in BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY gave me a CD on Friday, > with a shed load of Stray Cats MP3s on it, and I've only just got round to > listening to it. > > (For any Americans listening, a "shed load" is halfway between a "shit load" > and a "fuck load".) > > Fuck me they were good. > > Just thought I'd pass that on. > > What I'd give to see Wilko Johnson and Brian Setzer on the same stage... > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ps. Oh, and while I'm here, there's a chance that BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY > may have to change their name. :-( So, if you see an advert for "The > Grumblemags", come and see us. > > pps. That's probably an English joke. Americans can email me off list for > an explaination. > > pps. Hi Larry! Hope you're OK! From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jul 16 00:22:55 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:22:55 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle In-Reply-To: <000b01c22c42$9dbf0340$fc2a87d9@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 10:00:13PM +0100 Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 10:00:13PM +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: > Sherborne Castle > was built by Sir Walter Raleigh in 1594 and Sherborne Old Castle was > once owned by Sir Walter Raleigh. Cromwell took 16 days to capture it > and reduced it to ruins. Sir Walter's stones were in the same shape as his lungs, then? :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 16 01:52:55 2002 From: mail at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:52:55 +0100 Subject: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Message-ID: Well, at least keep an eye out just before "Westbury" (assuming you do the Paddington to exeter route) for the White Horse carved into the hillside. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burro Mike" To: Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:54 PM Subject: Re: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle Thanks for all that information. much appreciated. To be quite honest I don't think we'll be seeing much in the way of castles or circles, because we are traveling by train. Peace, MIke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Strobridge Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:13 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: RE: places to go/ nearest castle/stone monolith or circle ----- Original Message ----- > From: Burro Mike > > Hi all..My fianc? really wants to see a castle..Anyone know where the nearest one to the site would be? > Also stone monolith or circle? > > Peace, Mike http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Now here's an interesting question! Castles in Devon are a bit few and far between - you really need to go somwhere people were fighting each other on a regular basis - Scotland, Wales. My tourist map of Devon suggests Dartmouth Castle (about 25 miles S of Exeter along the coast) "a beautiful 15th century castle spectacturaly set beside the Dart Estuary" is worth a visit. However Sherborne in Dorset is probably the place to aim for. It's sort-of on the way (on the A30) if you detour a bit coming south from Bristol and has two castles. Sherborne Castle was built by Sir Walter Raleigh in 1594 and Sherborne Old Castle was once owned by Sir Walter Raleigh. Cromwell took 16 days to capture it and reduced it to ruins. The best Devon stone circles (an maybe the only ones?) are all to be found on Dartmoor which is a wonderful place to visit but perhaps a bit out of the way for you? The best thing would be to visit Stonehenge in Wiltshire. An even better plan if you are travelling towards Devon by car is to go through the Avebury complex of monuments first (about 15 miles S of Swindon). Here is the magnificent West Kennet Neolithic longbarrow, Avebury Henge surrounding an entire village, and Silbury Hill (a massive artificial burial mound). Then head south to Stonebenge and another burial monument cluster and then west through Shaftesbury (alternative castle here: 14th century "unusual hexagonal rins") or Sherborne before turning south towards Axminster and Exeter and the coast. I am also delighted to discover that there is an Iron Age hillfort nearby which I definitely plan to visit. cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Jul 16 08:28:04 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:28:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: Black & Blue Message-ID: Classic Pictures is going to release the a DVD of the legendary Black & Blue concert by BLUE OYSTER CULT and BLACK SABBATH. It is still in production but the legendary film will become a DVD! This long out of print movie is a must own for all fans of BOC, Sabbath and hard rock and metal. Look for an official press release soon. From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Tue Jul 16 08:52:36 2002 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jean-Charles=20Moriaud?=) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:52:36 +0200 Subject: BOC: Black & Blue In-Reply-To: <200207161228.IAA07138@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: This is a great news. I was waiting for this one for ages. I hope that it will be released in Europe too. Cheers, JCMoriaud, France --- The Rocker a ?crit : > Classic Pictures is going to release the a DVD of > the legendary Black & > Blue concert by BLUE OYSTER CULT and BLACK SABBATH. > It is still in > production but the legendary film will become a DVD! > This long out of print > movie is a must own for all fans of BOC, Sabbath and > hard rock and metal. > Look for an official press release soon. ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en fran?ais ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Tue Jul 16 08:57:12 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:57:12 -0400 Subject: 5 Day weather forecast for hawkfest Message-ID: if any ones interested. had a look at the BBC web site to get the weather forecast for the next 5 days in sidmouth, devon. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=1880&links see you all at the hawkfest cheers colm From mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE Tue Jul 16 13:49:00 2002 From: mail at SUPER-TUNES.DE (Chris Appelt) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:49:00 -0400 Subject: HW Fest: cool places to go Message-ID: Hi there, and another special London town question: Who knows a good record store to get some music from Mazlyn Jones? CHris From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Jul 16 16:38:40 2002 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (Jez Dacombe) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:38:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Samurai Anthology vinyl sale Message-ID: Hi, Anybody interested in purchasing any of the Original Samurai Anthology Volume LPs on vinyl? These are the individual LPs, not the "The Official HW Anthology" 3 LP set that came out later. All are in prestine condition, having only been played once. Please send private e-mail with offer if interested. Cheers, Jez From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 16 17:10:21 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:10:21 +0100 Subject: HW fest: where should I stay? Message-ID: John, You could stay at the YHA. http://www.yha.org.uk; it is relatively cheap and OK. Exeter is too far IMHO; try Honiton or Sidmouth. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Majka" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:18 AM Subject: HW fest: where should I stay? > Where should I stay while in London (I'll be there for a few days before and > after the fest)? Any recommendations as to general locale? I'd like to be > near record stores, bookstores, restaurants... cool stuff.... > > Then too, regarding the fest, I'm not too keen on camping and would prefer a > hotel... is exeter near enough for driving between fest and lodging? > > John Majka > jmajka2 at comcast.net > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 16 17:16:13 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:16:13 +0100 Subject: weather forecast for hawkfest Message-ID: This is a 3 day animation chart http://www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/charts/animation.html jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Colm McWilliams To: Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: 5 Day weather forecast for hawkfest > if any ones interested. > > had a look at the BBC web site to get the weather forecast for the next 5 > days in sidmouth, devon. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=1880&links > > see you all at the hawkfest > > cheers > > colm > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 16 18:20:16 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:20:16 +0100 Subject: HW: tourist info Message-ID: Just in case anyone needs it here's a tourist information phone number: South West Tourism: 0870 442 0880 jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 16 19:02:28 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Judge Trev) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:02:28 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest Lift for Judge Trev Message-ID: Hallo, I'm playing a solo acoustic set at the Hawkfest this weekend, and I'm looking for a lift there, either from Brighton, or possibly from the Hastings gig . It'll just be me, a suitcase, and guitar. Will contribute to gas. Apart from that, I'm playing at the big green gathering after the Hawkfest, and if anyone wants to go there, I have passes for it inc vehicle pass. Best Wishes, Judge Trev From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jul 16 17:36:02 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 18:36:02 -0300 Subject: Hawkfest Lift for Judge Trev Message-ID: Trev, we'd give you a ride, but we're going by rail. Haven't seen you since Hamburg 2000. Do drop by my camp and say hi. Cheers, Mike Burro http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Judge Trev Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:09 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Hawkfest Lift for Judge Trev Hallo, I'm playing a solo acoustic set at the Hawkfest this weekend, and I'm looking for a lift there, either from Brighton, or possibly from the Hastings gig . It'll just be me, a suitcase, and guitar. Will contribute to gas. Apart from that, I'm playing at the big green gathering after the Hawkfest, and if anyone wants to go there, I have passes for it inc vehicle pass. Best Wishes, Judge Trev From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jul 16 19:46:11 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:46:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: BOC Comix strip reference In-Reply-To: <089a01c22c56$f119ba80$549923d9@bernard> Message-ID: Might have known that you'd be the one on your knees Rich *G* I was still on my feet when I left the Talisker Distillery clutching my bottle of 25yo cask strength (thanks Helen *G*) ChrisW...unlurking post hols At 00:25 16/07/02, you wrote: >On Saturday. 1983 I left. The day I started playing bass. :-) > >And I realised why I never kept in touch with these people in the first >place. > >My advice is "keep in touch with the people you've kept in touch with >anyway". > >If anyone's interested, there's a picture at http://www.sloshed.co.uk > >Still, the managing director of Double 2 shirts gave me a lift home. Didn't >offer me the rebuild on his website though! > >Cheers, > >Rich. -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jul 16 20:04:44 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:04:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Cover Versions In-Reply-To: <02a101c218b0$eb532280$0c4b893e@default> Message-ID: At 00:19 21/06/02, you wrote: >Bowie - Heroes >Bebop Deluxe - Panic in the World >Kraftwerk - The Model >The "who let the dogs out" one. >Robbie Williams "Let me entertain you" >Motorhead - Ace Of Spades!! > > >Dave Somewhat belatedly... did anybody hear the waaay cool surf-guitar(?!?) version of "The Model" that Peel played about a week ago? I think the band were called "Aqua Vista" Toodle-pip, ChrisW -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jul 16 20:50:41 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 01:50:41 +0100 Subject: Completely off topic, but... In-Reply-To: <000f01c21fdf$aad52a60$db3c27d9@bernard> Message-ID: Well off the pace here (that's what a fortnight in the highlands does) but... CONGRATULATIONS!!!! ChrisW At 03:41 30/06/02, you wrote: >...I got married. :-) > >Cheers, > >Rich. > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 05/06/02 -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Wed Jul 17 12:29:13 2002 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:29:13 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greetings Has anyone here got any idea of what the band running order is for the weekend or what is the final band list. I saw on the Beeb site that Tribe of Cro are playing but didn't see this anywhere on the Hawkwind site!!!! Wassappnin' Horse From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jul 17 12:53:40 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:53:40 -0400 Subject: Hawkfest In-Reply-To: <3D35A969.29092.3D7F6FA@localhost>; from horse@DARKSTAR.UK.NET on Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 05:29:13PM +0100 Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 05:29:13PM +0100, Horse wrote: > Has anyone here got any idea of what the band running order is for the weekend or > what is the final band list. Seems to me the *final* list and order won't be known until after the event :-) Things do have a way of changing at the last minute.... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jul 17 13:07:36 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:07:36 -0400 Subject: BOC Comix strip reference In-Reply-To: ; from mlooney@COX.NET on Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 08:35:41AM -0500 Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 08:35:41AM -0500, Mike Looney wrote: > Submitted with out comment. > > http://www.ucomics.com/adamathome/2002/07/13/ My friend says it should be "Blue Rinse ?yster Cult" ... whose acronym is a HW reference :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Jul 17 13:43:04 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 13:43:04 -0400 Subject: Hawkfest Message-ID: Tribe of Cro are listed on www.strange-trips.com also. I'd like to see them. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horse" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:29 PM Subject: Hawkfest > Greetings > > Has anyone here got any idea of what the band running order is for the weekend or > what is the final band list. > > I saw on the Beeb site that Tribe of Cro are playing but didn't see this anywhere on the > Hawkwind site!!!! > Wassappnin' > > Horse From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Jul 17 16:58:51 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:58:51 -0400 Subject: Festival location Message-ID: When will this be announced? Its almost time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers STEPHE From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 17 17:04:01 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:04:01 -0500 Subject: Festival location Message-ID: It's been on the website for a few days now if you look close enough. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:58 PM Subject: Festival location When will this be announced? Its almost time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers STEPHE From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 17 17:03:01 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:03:01 +0100 Subject: Festival location Message-ID: Stephe, It is on the Festival home page; there is a map. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephe Lindas" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: Festival location When will this be announced? Its almost time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers STEPHE From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 17 17:06:31 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:06:31 -0500 Subject: See You All at the Fest or Hastings Message-ID: Hope you all have a safe trip, and see you at the Fest (or Hastings if you happen to be going) Warning: If you're travelling through London tomorrow there is a lightning tube strike all day :-( Rich W From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Wed Jul 17 17:32:06 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 17:32:06 -0400 Subject: Festival location Message-ID: HI, Thanks, found it. See ya there. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Festival location > Stephe, > > It is on the Festival home page; there is a map. > > Colin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephe Lindas" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:58 PM > Subject: Festival location > > > When will this be announced? Its almost time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers > STEPHE From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jul 18 07:25:05 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:25:05 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest Lift for Judge Trev Message-ID: Hi Trev, I'm off to Hastings shortly & will be driving to the Hawkfest tomorrow morning, aiming to meet some friends at a pub near the site at around 2pm - ish. Lift's your's if you still need it, won't be coming back that way tho'. I'll find you tonight if you're at the gig. Cheers, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judge Trev" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: Hawkfest Lift for Judge Trev Hallo, I'm playing a solo acoustic set at the Hawkfest this weekend, and I'm looking for a lift there, either from Brighton, or possibly from the Hastings gig . It'll just be me, a suitcase, and guitar. Will contribute to gas. Apart from that, I'm playing at the big green gathering after the Hawkfest, and if anyone wants to go there, I have passes for it inc vehicle pass. Best Wishes, Judge Trev From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 18 08:38:52 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Judge Trev) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:38:52 +0100 Subject: DECLARATION Message-ID: HAIL THE MIGHTY BARON FROM WHOM ALL LIGHT AND SUCCOUR COME FORTH - HAIL HIS LIGHT OF BENEVOLENCE WITHOUT WHICH THE EARTH DIES - A CURSE UPON THE USURPER WHOS NAME IS NO LONGER SPOKEN BY THE BLESSED Judge Trev will be appearing in the acoustic venue at this weekends Hawkparty performing items from his astounding new album "GOD AND MAN" Then, together with the RFM posse, he will travel to the land of Cheddar to the Big Green Gathering where the new Judge Trev acoustic band featuring Rik Welsh (trumpet), Dr Syntax (saz), and Claire (percussion) will unleash the light of GOD upon the Blessed ones at: Henry's Beard venue wed 9.00pm and sat 6.00pm AND IT IS WRITTEN THAT IN THE LAND OF STONE AND SAND THE SHINING WATERS AGAIN WILL RISE AND THE BROTHERHOOD OF THE BROTHERHOOD OF MAN SHALL CAST OUT THE MINIONS OF HELL AND THOSE WHO WITH THE DEVIL ARE IN AGREEMENT we're all going to the same place - drive the same car in the same race we're all going to the same place - drive the same car in the same race we're all going to the same place - drive the same car in the same race we're all going to the same place - drive the same car in the same race Judge Trev From hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Thu Jul 18 13:39:52 2002 From: hawkthing at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (f. rat) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:39:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Stray Cats Message-ID: Richard Lockwood wrote: > ps. Oh, and while I'm here, there's a chance that BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY > may have to change their name. :-( So, if you see an advert for "The > Grumblemags", come and see us. > > pps. That's probably an English joke. Americans can email me off list for > an explaination. Have to say, I'm English and *I* don't get the joke (something to do with the Grumbleweeds I'm guessing!) F. Rat From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jul 18 13:47:45 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:47:45 -0400 Subject: HW: Now this is too eerie! Message-ID: An eBay search for Robert Calvert just spit out an auction of a movie poster. Turns out there are three people by that name listed on IMDB: two actors with a couple of never-heard-of-'em movies each, and a special-effects guy who's done stuff I have heard of (including "Office Space" -- which I was recently told I really should see -- and "X-Files", both series and movie). I did the obvious. Here's what I found: - Capt. Bl at ck: Keith, are you related to Audrey Kniveton perchance? - Richard Chadwick: One hit: a TV movie named "Blue Money" from 1982. Dunno, maybe he was hard up for cash before he landed a steady job with HW :-) - Lemmy: - There are four other Lemmies - "Our" Lemmy has been in a dozen movies, mostly as himself - Five movies match: "Lemmy" about Mr. Kilmister, and four French movies whose lead character is Lemmy Caution. - One of the latter is titled "Lemmy pour les dames". Type-nicknaming or what? And the winner is... - Dave Brock: One movie: "Death Becomes Her". His character? Jim Morrison! (Yes, that one.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 18 14:00:01 2002 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (Judge Trev) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:00:01 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest Lift for Judge Trev Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Hawkfest Lift for Judge Trev > Hi Trev, > > I'm off to Hastings shortly & will be driving to the Hawkfest tomorrow > morning, aiming to meet some friends at a pub near the site at around 2pm - > ish. Lift's your's if you still need it, won't be coming back that way > tho'. > I'll find you tonight if you're at the gig. > Cheers, > > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judge Trev" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:02 AM > Subject: Hawkfest Lift for Judge Trev > > > Hallo, > > I'm playing a solo acoustic set at the Hawkfest this weekend, and I'm > looking for a lift there, either from Brighton, or possibly from the > Hastings gig . It'll just be me, a suitcase, and guitar. Will contribute > to gas. > > Apart from that, I'm playing at the big green gathering after the Hawkfest, > and if anyone wants to go there, I have passes for it inc vehicle pass. > > Best Wishes, Judge Trev > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Jul 18 17:13:19 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:13:19 +0100 Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: Oh, alright - yes you're right with the Grumbleweeds reference, but "grumble mag" is a (fairly obscure) reference to "gentlemens top shelf publications". (See also - "Grumbleflick" - Gentleman's video) Which brings me back to a thread from a year or so ago - how many songs do we know about wanking?! (And can someone point me towards the archive for this list, as I know I got about twenty brilliant replies last time I posted this!) We're working on a set list that consists of... Turning Japanese (The Vapors) I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) Pictures Of Lily (The Who) Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol - was this a cover?) Masturbike (Bad News) And anything by Kevin Bloody Wilson or Ivor Biggun. Then we intend to finish with a cover of "Somebody's gonna get their head kicked in tonight" - originally Fleetwood Mac, but covered by the Rezillos and every Oi! band worth their salt. Again, wanking song references most welcome. :-) Remember - "We - ee - ee - are the Grumblemags!" Cheers, Rich. > > ps. Oh, and while I'm here, there's a chance that BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY > > may have to change their name. :-( So, if you see an advert for "The > > Grumblemags", come and see us. > > > > pps. That's probably an English joke. Americans can email me off list for > > an explaination. > > Have to say, I'm English and *I* don't get the joke (something to do > with the Grumbleweeds I'm guessing!) > > F. Rat > From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Jul 18 17:20:55 2002 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:20:55 -0700 Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: >Again, wanking song references most welcome. :-) Devo - Jerkin' Back and Forth scorch From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Jul 18 17:30:06 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:30:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: TICKETS TO DISTORTION 2002 Message-ID: For the first time in my life, I won a competition on national radio today. BBC Radio 6 - Digital (or through the computer) only. The competition was on the Phill Jupitas breakfast show. The idea was to come up with hypothetical actor / music combination names. If that sounds incoherent, you're probably right - but here were my suggestions... (most of which were read out live) Ethan Hawkwind The Rolling Sharon Stones The Fountains of John Wayne The Warren Beat Yul Brynnersley Schwarz Pee Wee Herman's Hermits Alanis Maurice Micklewhite (this made me laugh out loud when I thought of it!) Steve McQueens of the Stone Age Skunk Anansie Sinatra Jason Judas Priestly Led Zeppelynn Redgrave The Swinging Blue Jean Harlows The Charles Danse Society and my personal favourite, Woody Allen Ant Farm. (The best - not one of mine - IMHO was "Doctor Gielgud"... :-) ) :-) Anyway, I've got 2 VIP passes to Feedback 2002 in Nottingham this weekend. Anyone want them - assuming they arrive tomorrow and I can courier them off to you. I'd love to go and see Iggy Pop, Green Day, The Wildhearts (especially the Wildhearts), A, Raging Speedhorn and many others but sadly I can't make it. If anyone wants them - first come first served - give me your mobile / best phone number, and I'll ring you when they arrive. Price? Well, twenty five quid a ticket, two tickets, and these are backstage VIP tickets (AFAIK). All offers considered. (Plus courier fees) (Assuming they get here tomorrow morning) (and you'll probably have to pretend to be Richard Lockwood - which could be unfortunate!) If no offers, I'll have to give them to my mate Wez who shagged my ex girlfriend and makes a habit of getting his knob out in the pub. (Fair play to him!) If you want the passes - and as I said, assuming the BBC get them to London in time - give me a call. (07971 697101) or drop me an email. First come first served. I'd LOVE to go, but various reasons prevent me from going there. BOLLOCKS BOLLOCKS BOLLOCKS. I've never won ANYTHING before, and the one time I do... I can't go. BOLLOCKS FUCK KNOB CUNT ARSEBISCUITS. Arse. More info on www.distortion2002.com Cheers, Rich. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jul 18 17:29:45 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 17:29:45 -0400 Subject: The Grumblemags. In-Reply-To: <12dc01c22e9f$f30a9530$549923d9@bernard>; from rich@BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 10:13:19PM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 10:13:19PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: > (And can someone point me towards the archive for this list, as I know I got > about twenty brilliant replies last time I posted this!) http://listserv.spc.edu/archives/boc-l.html -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Jul 18 17:54:52 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 22:54:52 +0100 Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: Thanks Eric! :-) R. > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 10:13:19PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: > > (And can someone point me towards the archive for this list, as I know I got > > about twenty brilliant replies last time I posted this!) > > http://listserv.spc.edu/archives/boc-l.html > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Jul 18 18:08:41 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:08:41 +0100 Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: > Oh, alright - yes you're right with the Grumbleweeds reference, but "grumble > mag" is a (fairly obscure) reference to "gentlemens top shelf publications". > (See also - "Grumbleflick" - Gentleman's video) Which brings me back to a > thread from a year or so ago - how many songs do we know about wanking?! > Here's the list I just got from the archives - thanks to Eric for pointing me there - f'narr... :-) Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) Turning Japanese (The Vapors) I Touch Myself (The Divinyls) Teenage Kicks (The Undertones) Dancing With Myself (Billy Idol) Get a Grip On Yourself(?) (Semisonic) Another Valentines Day Wank (Beautiful South) Pictures of Lily (the Who) Auto-Manipulator (Crispin Hellion Glover - great Beastie Boys parody) lou reed - i'm banging on my drum (from rock & roll heart) "My Ding a Ling" by Chuck Berry Don't touch me there - The Tubes Red Guitar - David Sylvian Everyday I Die - Gary Numan Vibrator - Motorhead She Bop - Cyndi Lauper Cock in my Pocket - Iggy and the Stooges Pink Thing - XTC Orgy of One - The Meatmen Right Hand Man - Joan Osborne Longview - Green Day Cheers, Rich. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jul 18 18:08:32 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:08:32 -0400 Subject: The Grumblemags. In-Reply-To: <136201c22ea7$aee58a10$549923d9@bernard>; from rich@BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 11:08:41PM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 11:08:41PM +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: > Orgasm Addict (Buzzcocks) > [...] > Longview - Green Day I still say you should add "All I Have To Do Is Dream" by the Everly Brothers to the list. Wanking's (I presume, in those innocent days) not what they *thought* the song was about, which would make singing it in this context especially funny in a twisted sort of way :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jul 18 18:16:23 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:16:23 -0400 Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:20:55 -0700, John H. McCartney wrote: >>Again, wanking song references most welcome. :-) > >Devo - Jerkin' Back and Forth Also by Devo: "Praying Hands" "Penetration in the Centerfold" maybe even "Be Stiff" (and don't forget that some of those songs were produced by the same guy who produced 'Lucky Leif') (And I saw the Rezillos do a reunion gig in SF a few weeks ago ... they did NOT play "Someone's gonna get their head kicked in tonight", but one of the skinheads in the audience did anyway - got his head kicked in, that is.) -Doug (former Devo tribute band member) jasret at mindspring.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jul 18 18:32:29 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:32:29 -0400 Subject: The Grumblemags. In-Reply-To: <200207182216.SAA15825@listserv.spc.edu>; from jasret@MINDSPRING.COM on Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 06:16:23PM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 06:16:23PM -0400, Doug Pearson wrote: > "Penetration in the Centerfold" Speaking of which, "Centerfold" by the J. Geils Band. Jeez, how could I have forgotten that? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Jul 18 18:43:05 2002 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:43:05 -0400 Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: Penetration in the Centerfold......a forgotten DEVO gem. Always loved that song. This is off topic, but.. I ran into Mark Mothersbaugh at Club Spaceland. Cluster was playing and, before the show, I had a nice talk with Mark. He told me that, during DEVO's first UK tour, he went to see Motorhead and was totally blown away. Who would've thought?? Duty now for the future- Dan -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson [mailto:jasret at MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:16 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: The Grumblemags. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:20:55 -0700, John H. McCartney wrote: >>Again, wanking song references most welcome. :-) > >Devo - Jerkin' Back and Forth Also by Devo: "Praying Hands" "Penetration in the Centerfold" maybe even "Be Stiff" (and don't forget that some of those songs were produced by the same guy who produced 'Lucky Leif') (And I saw the Rezillos do a reunion gig in SF a few weeks ago ... they did NOT play "Someone's gonna get their head kicked in tonight", but one of the skinheads in the audience did anyway - got his head kicked in, that is.) -Doug (former Devo tribute band member) jasret at mindspring.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Jul 18 21:11:47 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:11:47 -0400 Subject: HW: Wright Stuff Message-ID: Hi Did anyone see "The Wright Stuff" on Channel 5 on Thursday Morning? Apparently Hawkwind were mentioned (Quite favourably, I'm told....) If anyone has detail of exactly what was said, please post it.... Rx From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jul 18 21:24:26 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 21:24:26 -0400 Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:43:05 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >Penetration in the Centerfold......a >forgotten DEVO gem. Always loved that song. > >This is off topic, but.. > >I ran into Mark Mothersbaugh at Club Spaceland. Cluster was playing and, >before the show, I had a nice talk with Mark. He told me that, during >DEVO's first UK tour, he went to see Motorhead and was totally blown >away. Who would've thought?? That reminds me of the story recounted by former Black Flag singer/guitarist Dez Candena (later of DC3, who did a bunch of Hawkwind covers back in the late 80's) when he interviewed Dave & Richard (I think) for (the late) 'Flipside' on Hawkwind's '89 US tour ... he talks about Black Flag being on their first UK tour around 1980. When they had a night off, their hosts ask if they want to check out any bands ... "UK Subs? Stranglers? Exploited?" (name a dozen other UK punk bands), and Black Flag respond in unison, "We wanna see Hawkwind!" (which, of course, thoroughly appalled their punk-"purist" hosts). I have no actual verification for this story, but I've *heard* that Mark Mothersbaugh and Jerry Casale decided to turn their conceptual/art project into a "real" band after being encouraged to do so in a backstage conversation with Hawkwind, which would have had to have been while Lemmy was still in the band (according to the "master" gig list, the last show the band played in the USA before the ill-fated Canadian border crossing was Cleveland, 16may75, which would've been the last Cleveland gig until after Devo were already an established band). However, if you spoke with Mark, and the subject of Hawkwind came up, and this incident wasn't mentioned, then it would seem to verify that this rumor is, alas, completely false (too bad, I think it's a great story!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jul 18 23:49:22 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:49:22 EDT Subject: HAWKWIND Message-ID: If anyone is thinking of using the name HAWKWIND on this side of the pond..we will blow your balls off..start saving,... cunts.... b From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 19 00:21:56 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:21:56 EDT Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: Well I NEVERRRRRR!! Young people today with your rock n roll and mastribating and porn star stickers on your car rear windows. What izzzzzzz the world coming to. ((( Now.....Wherezzzz me fuckin dildo..... ))) Signed Granny Knobbler In a message dated Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:57:36 AEDT, "Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]" writes: > Penetration in the Centerfold......a > forgotten DEVO gem. Always loved that song. > > This is off topic, but.. > > I ran into Mark Mothersbaugh at Club Spaceland. Cluster was playing and, > before the show, I had a nice talk with Mark. He told me that, during > DEVO's > first UK tour, he went to see Motorhead and was totally blown away. Who > would've > thought?? > > Duty now for the future- > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Pearson [mailto:jasret at MINDSPRING.COM] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:16 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: The Grumblemags. > > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:20:55 -0700, John H. McCartney > wrote: > >>Again, wanking song references most welcome. :-) > > > >Devo - Jerkin' Back and Forth > > Also by Devo: > "Praying Hands" > "Penetration in the Centerfold" > maybe even "Be Stiff" > > (and don't forget that some of those songs were produced by the same guy > who produced 'Lucky Leif') > > (And I saw the Rezillos do a reunion gig in SF a few weeks ago ... they did > NOT play "Someone's gonna get their head kicked in tonight", but one of the > skinheads in the audience did anyway - got his head kicked in, that is.) > > -Doug (former Devo tribute band member) > jasret at mindspring.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 19 00:42:01 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 00:42:01 EDT Subject: HAWKWIND Message-ID: WTF? If ones balls are going to be blown off by beautiful scantilly clad females with huge titties then I'll vollunteer. Otherwise I'll just stay home and watch the telly. In a message dated Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:50:10 AEDT, Bill Stewart writes: > If anyone is thinking of using the name HAWKWIND on this side of the pond..we > will blow your balls off..start saving,... cunts.... > > b From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Fri Jul 19 06:50:58 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 06:50:58 -0400 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: Oh dear. That really wasn't too good was it. 'Sound problems' according to band sources, which meant the doors didn't open till after 8. Mr Quimbys Beard coped OK and performed an admirable set (shame I missed meeting Hardy due to the late opening).Colin Allen was recording at the sound desk, so hopefully the desk mix was better. HW were appalling. Possibly the worst I've seen since some bad days in 83/84. And if anyone ever mentions what Tim Blake did to"Spirit Of The Age", I will not be responsible for my actions. (That means ArinandRich!) The new percussive side didn't gel at all, and the Ballroom Pier is very very unpleasant. Plus sides - um, I managed to see Hawkwind this year:-) Hope it works better at the fest. From coral at APORT.RU Fri Jul 19 06:56:03 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:56:03 +0400 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: > 83/84. And if anyone ever mentions what Tim Blake did to"Spirit Of The > Age", I will not be responsible for my actions. (That means ArinandRich!) Do not say bad about tim Blake! From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Fri Jul 19 11:42:09 2002 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:42:09 -0400 Subject: The Grumblemags. Message-ID: I'll have to check into the Hawkwind conection. I am planning a visit to Mutato Muzika (DEVO's studio) soon and I'll see if I can get some sort of verification on that. And, just one more DEVO thing. I went to a benefit concert earlier this year and DEVO was there. They only played 4 songs, but man, they still got "it"!! I sure wish that they'd do some West Coast shows. I sure miss the 80's, when DEVO played what seemed like twice a year!! Dan -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson [mailto:jasret at MINDSPRING.COM] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:24 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: The Grumblemags. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:43:05 -0400, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: >Penetration in the Centerfold......a >forgotten DEVO gem. Always loved that song. > >This is off topic, but.. > >I ran into Mark Mothersbaugh at Club Spaceland. Cluster was playing and, >before the show, I had a nice talk with Mark. He told me that, during >DEVO's first UK tour, he went to see Motorhead and was totally blown >away. Who would've thought?? That reminds me of the story recounted by former Black Flag singer/guitarist Dez Candena (later of DC3, who did a bunch of Hawkwind covers back in the late 80's) when he interviewed Dave & Richard (I think) for (the late) 'Flipside' on Hawkwind's '89 US tour ... he talks about Black Flag being on their first UK tour around 1980. When they had a night off, their hosts ask if they want to check out any bands ... "UK Subs? Stranglers? Exploited?" (name a dozen other UK punk bands), and Black Flag respond in unison, "We wanna see Hawkwind!" (which, of course, thoroughly appalled their punk-"purist" hosts). I have no actual verification for this story, but I've *heard* that Mark Mothersbaugh and Jerry Casale decided to turn their conceptual/art project into a "real" band after being encouraged to do so in a backstage conversation with Hawkwind, which would have had to have been while Lemmy was still in the band (according to the "master" gig list, the last show the band played in the USA before the ill-fated Canadian border crossing was Cleveland, 16may75, which would've been the last Cleveland gig until after Devo were already an established band). However, if you spoke with Mark, and the subject of Hawkwind came up, and this incident wasn't mentioned, then it would seem to verify that this rumor is, alas, completely false (too bad, I think it's a great story!). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jul 19 12:49:57 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:49:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: ordering some new discs Message-ID: hi all- I just had to share this grand occasion... I just had an order confirmed for some new discs, for the princely sum of 50 bucks all together: CATHEDRAL- Endtyme their new album out on the Dreamcatcher label NOKTURNAL MORTUM- Goat Horns brilliant Latvian folk/death OFFICIUM TRIESTE- Ne Vivam from the Ukraine I believe, moody and dark stuff SATYRICON- Rebel Extravaganza the Norwegian blackmetal antichrists TIAMAT- The Astral Sleep 1991 album of mystical deathmetal from Edlund and co. They should all provide hours of pure listening pleasure! Chr. http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jul 19 13:21:32 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:21:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: Violence Has Arrived Message-ID: (review copyright (c) Charlie Yuga, 2002) Gwar - Violence Has Arrived (Metal Blade 2001, 3984-14374-2) US hardcore legends Gwar's latest offering is yet another over-the-top LSD casualty gorefest of more bloody and barbaric warrior metal, the classic band still catering to the slightly more bizarre or even the more light hearted among us still serving the annals of heavy metal and punk with dedication and revulsion beyond of the call of duty. Still able to charm their fans and mascots alike with their trademark razor wit and over-the-top theatrics, their brutal and uncompromising attitude to all things corrupt a cure delivered in healthy doses of disgust and intelligence. With "Violence Has Arrived", the current Gwar lineup of Oderus Urungus (vocals), Flattus Maximus (guitar), Beefcake The Mighty (bass), Balsac The Jaws Of Death (guitar) and Jizmax Da Cusha (drums) seemingly effortlessly recall the energy and refreshing sound and concept of their classic 1984 debut "Hell-O!" as if they had never lost some of their classic sound in the latter half of the 90's in a kind of creative musical stagnation catering more and more to mainstream US metal without losing any respect, and in spite of healthy doses of crass political concern and comment intact, Gwar's long crusade against evertyhing from censorship in the music industry to political corruption with uncompromising comment and brutally satirical bite unheard of in the mainstream hardcore scene since the glory days of The Dead Kennedys, making them a much loved institution of US hardcore and punk and a notorious schlock attitude and shocking genre approach and image equalling a band like the Misfits, Gwar as a cult phenomena which even includes movies and comic books, and incredible stage shows and theatrics as always manage to deliver their own brand of the grotesque and the bizarre to anyone experienced or primitive enough, as superstars of the apocalypse and LSD wrestling heroes of the universe serving up their epic latex and leather clad mythology of the icy north to their faithful legions of fans, acid casualties and other cultural fallout roaming the inner cities and suburban wastelands of modern America. "Violence Has Arrived" heralds something of a welcome change in the typical Gwar tradition, their usually more crass or political brand of hardcore becoming strangely exotic and darkly underground with the more classic heavy metal or darker blackmetal tradition of fantasy with this album. Seemingly drowning in the ancient worlds of the medieval or even the strangely occult as the album's rather cryptic and oddly subtle approach to the traditional Gwar concept and sound becomes strangely entrenched in a lyrical subtlety and comfortable organic feel so welcomly bizarre in its almost weird and obscure nature, as the album's highlights like "Battle-Lust", "Abyss Of Woe", "Immortal Corruptor", "Beautious Rot", "Licksore", "Biledriver" and the closing "Happy Death-Day" carry Gwar's tales of beautiful women and ancient battlefields and stories of warrior thirst and pacts of honor on "Violence Has Arrived" to a farflung realm so exotic and bizarre it remains a treat of the hitherto so far unexplored by this band, Gwar barbarically battling onward in this new and primitive world of legend and myth which they seem to conjure into existence on "Violence Has Arrived". Housed in an incredibly eye-popping and mindblowing fantasy-style poster style cover painting so disturbing and so truly awesome, it portrays the bloodthirsty and battle weary Gwar, fully armored and bloodied in all their barbarian battle glory, posing victoriously in the lush primitive underground world, with Oderus Urungus carrying the ultimate spoils of war, an impaled naked dead chick slumped over his left shoulder... - Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ --- "A 'Bowie-Shag' is when you miss your vein." - Dr. Crabstix, Nazi Deadhead Commando And Paramedic Hippy Emergency General You can take the Beatle out of Uncle Charlie, but you can't take Uncle Charlie out of The Beatles!" - Bastard Ceremonial Proverb Of The Immortal Blasphemers Of Sodom "There remains nothing but juggernauting the Apocalypse ?bersoul through the constant avalanche of dying bodies!" - Tubrok The Alterer, Paramilitary Ascendant Archangel Of Christ And Avenging Jehovah Of The Revalations "I actually saw Mot?rhead play at least seven fucking times, right, but I only remembered to bring my fucking woman along just once!" - The Cannibal Swinger, King Of Romania __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From denis at D-RIDER.DE Fri Jul 19 13:51:50 2002 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 11:51:50 -0600 Subject: HW: Hastings In-Reply-To: <200207191050.GAA18012@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi, [snip] >HW were appalling. Possibly the worst I've seen since some bad days in >83/84. And if anyone ever mentions what Tim Blake did to"Spirit Of The >Age", I will not be responsible for my actions. (That means ArinandRich!) *arghl* That sounds bad. Just out of curiosity: what did Tim do to SotA? (and to not upset The Rocker you can of course answer via PM *g*) >The new percussive side didn't gel at all, and the Ballroom Pier is very >very unpleasant. BTW, what was the line-up (was Richard there or was Danny the drummer in charge) and set-list (something new, surprising) of this gig? BTW2, is anyone from this list living somewehre near El Paso, TX (I'm there until mid November)? (c)IAO D+R From coral at APORT.RU Fri Jul 19 16:30:34 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:30:34 +0400 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: line-up? who sang flying doctor? set-list, any new songs? and what exactly was bad? I still haven't seen any description which would prove that it was awful like 83/84 (and not all 83/84 is awful, only Nik parts). Personal opinions of people who just don't like Huw or Tim Blake are not acceptable. I don't think that someone can be as bad as recent Nik Turner and Co. shows. Alisa From coral at APORT.RU Fri Jul 19 16:50:34 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:50:34 +0400 Subject: HW: Fw: [neo-quark] Wow: Hastings Message-ID: Forwarding another opinion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DreamWorker" To: Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 5:42 AM Subject: [neo-quark] Wow: Hastings > That was a cracking gig. Excellent start, lost the impetus somewhat when Huw first joined the stage, then picked up with a vengeance. Some problems with us hearing Simon House's violin at the beginning, then he was way too loud, but they got the mix right by 1/3 way into the set. > > Danny Thompson and Richard Chadwick both on drums, the latter also doing some stuff with sequencers apparently. Polarising solo version of Sprit of the Age by Tim Blake (some loved it, others didn't) . Best versions ever of Spiral Galaxy and Brainbox Pollution, punishing version of Shouldn't Do That. Dave Brock's guitar was dominant which was good to hear, but Huw played superbly. Alan Davey seems to have taken up the lead role and is doing an excellent job. The band were tight but relaxed if that makes sense - they really worked well together tonight. The whole feel of the gig very different to the shows last year. I hope somebody taped this so that you can find out what I mean. > > Night of the Hawks > ..... two or three numbers, but we'd all lost the plot and can't remember what they played > Spiral Galaxy > ... maybe one more number > Sprit of the Age > Damnation Alley > The Watcher > Brainbox Pollution > Shoudn't Do That > Something that sounded like Sputnik Stan combined with Earth Calling > encores: > Motorway City > Hurry on Sundown > > Can't wait til Saturday night. > > Cheers. Rob. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Will You Find True Love? > Will You Meet the One? > Free Love Reading by phone! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/O3jeVD/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/QgJolB/TM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > -- > Getting too many emails? 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jul 19 17:34:13 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:34:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: summer poem for ladie arrowsmythe Message-ID: wet thine fleur de lys withe blood thine poncey goose layeth eggs hast thee met mine manservant sir It raineth sweetmeats upon thee -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jul 19 18:07:04 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:07:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: urban archangel installation of utgard Message-ID: ...only four or five boddhisattvas left behind me before I blast alla akbar in sternkieg... and I used to have a little radio down there in islam... ...I baptised the body of a dead jew and lit a candle on his head... I underwent an obduction on the body to experiment with eyeball movements on living subjects with the telepathy of the undead... -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Fri Jul 19 17:51:08 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:51:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings In-Reply-To: <000901c22f12$e221d4e0$affb2ed4@ghostwheel3> Message-ID: All I have to say on the subject is: "Tim.... Don't sing!" Admirable synth/keyboard dude though he is... ChrisW At 11:56 19/07/02, you wrote: > > 83/84. And if anyone ever mentions what Tim Blake did to"Spirit Of The > > Age", I will not be responsible for my actions. (That means ArinandRich!) > >Do not say bad about tim Blake! > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jul 19 18:29:03 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:29:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: after easter of 1999... Message-ID: ...after easter of 1999 is when I first tuned in to hearing voices during the apocalypse and passed through The Golden Dawn before crashing as Kali Yuga on an east side clinic as christ and passing through Dahzbog in the baltics... -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jul 19 18:48:28 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:48:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: stonerrock call to peace! Message-ID: Fellow witches and 19 warriors out of Viet Nam, in your army coats... spread the peace vibe, brothers and sisters! It's a grunge seeeeensation! Yeeeaaah, I'm sooo high, calling on the golden one... so stoned, motherfucker, yeaaah, I love you all, brothers and sisters! blah blah blah, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Fri Jul 19 18:55:31 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:55:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: SS stag party Message-ID: SS stag party at Rob Halford's house - see Syd Barrett wearing a lampshade! Free LSD! Chicks! All the comics you can read! Sieg heil! cast: Simon King Andrew Eldritch John Leckie Rick Wakeman joke: Hawkwind drummer Simon King stops by Andrew Eldritch's house and proceeds to knock on his door. Andrew Eldritch reluctantly asks him to enter. Simon King opens the door and says "ketchup!". Andrew Eldritch falls out of his chair and dies. John Leckie suddenly enters from another room in a viking helmet holding a cake and tells a Black Sabbath joke involving Ronnie James Dio and Geezer Butler much to Simon King's amusement. Andrew Eldritch suddenly wakes up as Rick Wakeman enters on a surprise visit. -Chr. http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Fri Jul 19 19:49:21 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:49:21 -0400 Subject: BOC:black&blue Message-ID: Check it out all & sundry... Subject: [ebupdates] Electricbasement.com Updates! Date Sent: 19 Jul 2002 07:58 PM - ARTICLE: Press Release for the long awaited BOC/SABBATH DVD featuring their famous "Black & Blue" gig from 1980!! See the cover as well! http://www.electricbasement.com/articles98.htm From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sat Jul 20 02:10:51 2002 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:10:51 -0500 Subject: SS stag party Message-ID: Ampetamine, you don't make a lick of sense. What the hell are you talking about? Wierd, man! I mean everyone is a bit wierd to an extent.....but man, you are wierd, dude. Just a wierd opinion. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 20 03:30:29 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 03:30:29 EDT Subject: OFF: urban archangel installation of utgard Message-ID: In a message dated Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:07:28 AEDT, Amphetamine Embalmer writes: > ...only four or five boddhisattvas left behind me > before I blast alla akbar in sternkieg... and I used > to have a little radio down there in islam... > > ...I baptised the body of a dead jew and lit a candle > on his head... I underwent an obduction on the body to > experiment with eyeball movements on living subjects > with the telepathy of the undead... All I got was a cheap fuckin t shirt From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 20 03:32:15 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 03:32:15 EDT Subject: OFF: stonerrock call to peace! Message-ID: Pass the straw and a few lines this way In a message dated Sat, 20 Jul 2002 09:48:54 AEDT, Amphetamine Embalmer writes: > Fellow witches and 19 warriors out of Viet Nam, in > your army coats... spread the peace vibe, brothers and > sisters! It's a grunge seeeeensation! Yeeeaaah, I'm > sooo high, calling on the golden one... so stoned, > motherfucker, yeaaah, I love you all, brothers and > sisters! > > blah blah blah, > -Charlie Yuga > http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 20 03:49:14 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 03:49:14 EDT Subject: SS stag party Message-ID: The Duke of Speed.... In a message dated Sat, 20 Jul 2002 17:12:09 AEDT, Tom Clark writes: > Ampetamine, you don't make a lick of sense. What the hell are you talking > about? Wierd, man! I mean everyone is a bit wierd to an extent.....but > man, you are wierd, dude. > > Just a wierd opinion. From stephen.bennett at EARHT.COM Sat Jul 20 06:24:06 2002 From: stephen.bennett at EARHT.COM (Stephen Bennett) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:24:06 +0100 Subject: Digitaltronics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here is some Abstract Digital Music for you to listen too. http://www.earht.com/DataPoint/earht_banks/audio_visual/eagle_a_v_a_000_000_ 005.html Stephen EarHT From stephen.bennett at EARHT.COM Sat Jul 20 06:58:50 2002 From: stephen.bennett at EARHT.COM (Stephen Bennett) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 11:58:50 +0100 Subject: Digitaltronics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That should be.......... Here is some Abstract Digital Music for you to listen too. http://www.earht.com/DataPoint/earht_banks/audio_visual/eagle_a_v_a_000_000_ 005.html Stephen EarHT From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Sat Jul 20 07:19:12 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:19:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Fw: [neo-quark] Wow: Hastings In-Reply-To: <000701c22f65$ee418970$3afa2ed4@ghostwheel3> Message-ID: And your point is? At 21:50 19/07/02, you wrote: >Forwarding another opinion. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "DreamWorker" >To: >Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 5:42 AM >Subject: [neo-quark] Wow: Hastings -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Jul 20 09:05:07 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:05:07 +1000 Subject: SS stag party Message-ID: You spelt weird wrong. The letters were the right ones though. Try rearranging them and you may come up with - wired. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Clark" To: Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Re: SS stag party > Ampetamine, you don't make a lick of sense. What the hell are you talking > about? Wierd, man! I mean everyone is a bit wierd to an extent.....but > man, you are wierd, dude. > > Just a wierd opinion. From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Sat Jul 20 10:08:51 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:08:51 +0100 Subject: HW price help Message-ID: I`m looking to raise a bit of cash and have the following vinyl but no firm idea of what a fair price is on them. Any help (or offers) appriciated. I don`t really want to sell but a reasonable offer could be acceptable Robert Calvert - Hype (A Side Records IF0311) Hawkfan12 (All extras afaik - HWFB2) Steve Swindles - Fresh Blood (Atco K50738) Steve Swindles - Messages (RCA LPLI 5057) ICU - Punkadelic - (Sharp103) ICU - Maximum Effect (Avatar AALP5004) ICU - Pass Out (Riddle 002) Imperial Pompadors - (Ersatz Pomp 001) Nik Turner - Xitintoday (Charisma CDS 4011) Underground Zero - Never Reach The Stars (Flicknife Sharp023) Underground Zero - Through The Looking Glass (Flicknife Sharp038) Any help appriciated. There`s other stuff but haven`t gone through it yet. Si SickCon1 - Unofficial UK Alice Cooper Convention: http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/convention/ From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Sat Jul 20 12:12:59 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (The Rocker) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:12:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Hastings - brief response Message-ID: >>*arghl* That sounds bad. Just out of curiosity: what did Tim do to SotA? (and to not upset The Rocker you can of course answer via PM *g*) Well if a tinny voice box effect made to sound like a 3 year old child, reciting the lyrics to a Stylophone beat is your cup of tea. Me, I was looking for someone to hit:-) >>>BTW, what was the line-up (was Richard there or was Danny the drummer in charge) and set-list (something new, surprising) of this gig? Nothing new or surprising. Things got marginally better towards the end. Dave B didn't seem to do much (apart from sunbathe in the afternoon, sticking to his keyboards, Ali doing much of the singing. >>Personal opinions of people who just don't like Huw or Tim Blake are not acceptable. I own solo work by both, and welcomed them back, but Mr Blake was, I am afraid, inconsequential and irritating. Although at least he was audible, unlike Mr House (soundcheck quote - "What do you mean, one monitor!" Re the neo quark review. Well I've only been to 75-80 shows, so maybe my opinion is inconsequential, but from "Night Of The Hawks" through to "Damnation Alley", the sound, as I said was appalling. Things did improve from "The Watcher" on, but I stand by the original tenor. A major disappointment. From coral at APORT.RU Sat Jul 20 12:41:51 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 20:41:51 +0400 Subject: HW: Hastings - brief response Message-ID: You all are saying about the sound. But the sound is not the band playing. And if the sound wasn't good enough it doesn't mean the playing is bad. It's just the sound. It's the mistake of sound engineer. Sound is very important part of concert but not everything. >From what I've read it would be a very interesting show for me. So I will definitely try to find a recording. Alisa From marklicht at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 20 15:52:48 2002 From: marklicht at HOTMAIL.COM (Mark Licht) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:52:48 -0700 Subject: SS stag party Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Jul 20 16:17:36 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 06:17:36 +1000 Subject: SS stag party Message-ID: He hasn't been well recently but he will be back. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Licht To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 5:52 AM Subject: Re: SS stag party I nomimate Ampetamine to be the new Mike Coleman. BTW does anyone know what has become of the original Mike Coleman? His email bounces, calling dumps into voicemail, and no posts on OpaLoka for months. >From: Tom Clark >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: SS stag party >Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:10:51 -0500 > >Ampetamine, you don't make a lick of sense. What the hell are you talking >about? Wierd, man! I mean everyone is a bit wierd to an extent.....but >man, you are wierd, dude. > >Just a wierd opinion. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 20 18:26:30 2002 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (Steve Johnson) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:26:30 EDT Subject: HW price help Message-ID: In a message dated 7/20/02 3:09:34 PM GMT Daylight Time, si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK writes: > I`m looking to raise a bit of cash and have the following vinyl but no firm > idea of what a fair price is on them. > Now what might that be for? }:-) Steve. From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Sat Jul 20 18:40:07 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 23:40:07 +0100 Subject: HW price help Message-ID: Subject: Re: HW price help > > I`m looking to raise a bit of cash and have the following vinyl but no firm > > idea of what a fair price is on them. > > > > Now what might that be for? }:-) > > Steve. You know me too well Steve Si From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Jul 21 10:37:43 2002 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (filip) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:37:43 +0200 Subject: HW:Andy g? or weird tapes discs? Message-ID: Hello all, have heard rumours that the weird tapes will be out on picture disc? my computor broke down for the so many time,so lost some of the conversations lately. has anyone more info greetings filip From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Jul 21 10:46:02 2002 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (filip) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:46:02 +0200 Subject: HW price help Message-ID: ok si, i give ?50 for the imperial pompadour let me know if it's enough greetings filip p.s.:e-mail me filip.vanhuyse at yucom.be ----- Original Message ----- From: Si Halley To: Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 4:08 PM Subject: HW price help > I`m looking to raise a bit of cash and have the following vinyl but no firm > idea of what a fair price is on them. > > Any help (or offers) appriciated. I don`t really want to sell but a > reasonable offer could be acceptable > > Robert Calvert - Hype (A Side Records IF0311) > Hawkfan12 (All extras afaik - HWFB2) > Steve Swindles - Fresh Blood (Atco K50738) > Steve Swindles - Messages (RCA LPLI 5057) > ICU - Punkadelic - (Sharp103) > ICU - Maximum Effect (Avatar AALP5004) > ICU - Pass Out (Riddle 002) > Imperial Pompadors - (Ersatz Pomp 001) > Nik Turner - Xitintoday (Charisma CDS 4011) > Underground Zero - Never Reach The Stars (Flicknife Sharp023) > Underground Zero - Through The Looking Glass (Flicknife Sharp038) > > Any help appriciated. There`s other stuff but haven`t gone through it yet. > > Si > > SickCon1 - Unofficial UK Alice Cooper Convention: > http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/convention/ > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 21 14:13:46 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:13:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: Definitely not the best Hawkwind concert ever! However, I have to say that some of the problems were down to the sound crew; they were completely inept, even down to not knowing their own equipment and how to connect it up. They actually managed to run out of leads and had to borrow some of mine, thus turning my multitrack recording of Mister Quimby's Beard into a straight stereo recording! Having said that, there were problems with the band; Huw was "feeling unwell", which was reflected in his playing, if that is what one could call it. The combination of Richard and Danny did not work well; maybe it will take a bit of time to settle down. Tim, who I admire and respect immensely, really should not have been allowed to "sing". Overall, a weak performance but one that was made immeasurably worse by the truly dreadful sound. Colin (the utterly pissed off person!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Rocker" To: Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:50 AM Subject: HW: Hastings > Oh dear. > > That really wasn't too good was it. > > 'Sound problems' according to band sources, which meant the doors didn't > open till after 8. > > Mr Quimbys Beard coped OK and performed an admirable set (shame I missed > meeting Hardy due to the late opening).Colin Allen was recording at the > sound desk, so hopefully the desk mix was better. > > HW were appalling. Possibly the worst I've seen since some bad days in > 83/84. And if anyone ever mentions what Tim Blake did to"Spirit Of The > Age", I will not be responsible for my actions. (That means ArinandRich!) > > The new percussive side didn't gel at all, and the Ballroom Pier is very > very unpleasant. > > Plus sides - um, I managed to see Hawkwind this year:-) Hope it works > better at the fest. > From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sun Jul 21 22:47:25 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:47:25 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Citizens of the Midwest... are you ready to testify? Message-ID: Joan Jett's popular cover ALMOST has it right, you can stick another dime inte juke box baby, but it's not everything. What is everything? Let me tell you, brothers and sisters --- it is the music's power to MOVE you physically and metaphysically by pushing the limits and taking that chance on life. This glowing sermon on the virtues of rock and roll for your mortal soul is brought to you because of two groups of people: Static Cling and The Brain Surgeons. For those of you in, or not in, the know, Static Cling graces "To Helen With Love" and also comprises the "Skeleton Crew" on Helen Wheels' posthumous rocker (Buy it at the show!!!). At the friendliest and warmest bar between Rochester and Syracuse, Our Place, the foursome ripped it up through lovingly rethought of covers and some rollicking original tracks. Be Warned: their rendition of "I'm a Man" leads to spontaneous raveup induced combustion. At the Tavern on the Flats, they delivered their brand of hellfire and salvation yet again, with a gleeful foray into Screamin' Jay Hawkin's hymn "I Put A Spell on You" and the everwonderful "Walking the Dog." All eyes were on the baby head of incence as the "psychadelic portion" of the show kicks into depths uncharted by band or devil. Kim, Cathy and the crew are good folks, too. So if you see them, show your support by letting the music take your soul and give it back to you. Honesty is its own reward after all. But I know why you're all here. The Brain Surgeons. Albert Bouchard, Deborah Frost and David Hirschberg. Unlike past forays into reporting by yours truly, I'm not going to give the set list away completely. IT'S TOO GOOD to be related on mere e-mail and computer screen, dig? But I will say this. The songs that you have heard them play oh-so-well before are similar only in name and the intensity of the performance by this power(ful) trio. Some songs you will know from the days of the Blue Oyster Cult will be very familiar in performance, and some my friends.... some..... push the laws of probability in such a way that it's inevitable and unbelievable that what you will hear on tour will COMPLETELY BLOW YOUR EVER LOVIN' MIND. My rational mind disintegrated twice each of the two nights... it's that goooooooooooood. And not just good because the songs are just that good, but because the performers, Albert, Deb, and Dave OWN the stage when they play and they hope you feel a part of a happening in that audience. It was my birthday during the Seneca Falls show and may lead one to take with a grain of salt this seeming exercise in hyperbole, but I must say, without a shoadow-of-a-doubt, the Brain Surgeons KICK OUT THE JAMS. If you have any glimmer of that song in you, or the feeling of what it was like when you first felt rock and roll for the first time, you know a fraction of what awaits you at venues across continental 48 states. But there's more!! Both shows were wonderful in that, not only do they actively encourage fan participation in "Godzilla", but the cammeraderie with Static Cling brought forth some wonderful variatons of collaboration. At Our Place in Newark, all seven bandmembers took to the stage to perform a song I sadly do not know the name of, nor its performer. Festooned with an impeccably out-there Kim D. guitar solo and Albert on Mandocaster, there was a real sense of brotherhood for the place and the people gathered round to here a tune or two, or 20. In the Tavern on the Flats (ok, here's 2 more songs possibly on your agendas, America) Kim added theremin generated warnign sirens for a certain great green beast, as well as "Submission" to the vocal windup before the house was completely drummed into rubble as bass and lead guitar drove the joyful apocalypse onward. To finish off the set with an encore, Kim donned his insanely smooth sounding Fender, with Cathy Lee Otis on Tambourine and vocals as the Helen Wheels tune "Room to Rage" smashed the atoms of whatever brain cell had survived the hours behind it. As Albert said, "you can't top that." And so, brothers and sisters, when you're ready to tesify, testify. When you see them show them a sea of hands, rejoice in the fact that rock and roll IS here to stay, despite the ClearChannels of the world. Batten your hatches boys and girls. The Brain Surgeons are coming and life is all the better for it. Thank you Deborah, Dave and Albert for taking the Word to the streets. From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Jul 21 23:28:25 2002 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 23:28:25 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Citizens of the Midwest... are you ready to testify? Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:47:25 -0400 Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: At Our Place in Newark, all seven bandmembers took to the stage to perform a song I sadly do not know the name of, nor its performer. That was "One More Cup of Coffee" written by Bob Dylan. Great song. PS Having a great time so far on this tour. Might be the best yet for us. Al From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Jul 22 05:10:06 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:10:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: Didn't go to Hastings but spoke to Tim at the Summer Camp and the band were aware of the sound problems at Hastings. The set list seems similar to what was played in Devon, but did seem short. Huw turned up at the last minute, but was wasted and I couldn't hear his guitar too much anyway. I thought Dave and Alan held it together and seemed to be enjoying themselves. Apparently the local council restricted the music up 'til 11pm only, if that was the case why didn't everything start earlier rather than around 5pm. It was a poor turn out and for ?50 plus petrol etc would have like to have seen more than an hour of HW, unless it was longer than that and time flew? Weather was good though and it was nice talking to the band and Dave's bus is something else! My twopenneth, Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Colin J Allen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 21/07/02 19:13 Subject: Re: HW: Hastings Definitely not the best Hawkwind concert ever! However, I have to say that some of the problems were down to the sound crew; they were completely inept, even down to not knowing their own equipment and how to connect it up. They actually managed to run out of leads and had to borrow some of mine, thus turning my multitrack recording of Mister Quimby's Beard into a straight stereo recording! Having said that, there were problems with the band; Huw was "feeling unwell", which was reflected in his playing, if that is what one could call it. The combination of Richard and Danny did not work well; maybe it will take a bit of time to settle down. Tim, who I admire and respect immensely, really should not have been allowed to "sing". Overall, a weak performance but one that was made immeasurably worse by the truly dreadful sound. Colin (the utterly pissed off person!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Rocker" To: Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:50 AM Subject: HW: Hastings > Oh dear. > > That really wasn't too good was it. > > 'Sound problems' according to band sources, which meant the doors didn't > open till after 8. > > Mr Quimbys Beard coped OK and performed an admirable set (shame I missed > meeting Hardy due to the late opening).Colin Allen was recording at the > sound desk, so hopefully the desk mix was better. > > HW were appalling. Possibly the worst I've seen since some bad days in > 83/84. And if anyone ever mentions what Tim Blake did to"Spirit Of The > Age", I will not be responsible for my actions. (That means ArinandRich!) > > The new percussive side didn't gel at all, and the Ballroom Pier is very > very unpleasant. > > Plus sides - um, I managed to see Hawkwind this year:-) Hope it works > better at the fest. > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 09:47:11 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:47:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: Oh yes, the Hastings setlist: Earth Calling Night of the Hawks Flying Doctor LSD Fur Kirsty Strange Flower Lighthouse Spiral Galaxy Spirit of the Age Damnation Alley The Watcher Brainbox Pollution You Shouldn't Do That Earth Calling Motorway City Hurry on Sundown There was supposed to be a "reggae jam" in there too but Rizz did not turn up. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > Definitely not the best Hawkwind concert ever! > > However, I have to say that some of the problems were down to the sound > crew; they were completely inept, even down to not knowing their own > equipment and how to connect it up. They actually managed to run out of > leads and had to borrow some of mine, thus turning my multitrack recording > of Mister Quimby's Beard into a straight stereo recording! > > Having said that, there were problems with the band; Huw was "feeling > unwell", which was reflected in his playing, if that is what one could call > it. The combination of Richard and Danny did not work well; maybe it will > take a bit of time to settle down. Tim, who I admire and respect immensely, > really should not have been allowed to "sing". > > Overall, a weak performance but one that was made immeasurably worse by the > truly dreadful sound. > > Colin (the utterly pissed off person!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Rocker" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:50 AM > Subject: HW: Hastings > > > > Oh dear. > > > > That really wasn't too good was it. > > > > 'Sound problems' according to band sources, which meant the doors didn't > > open till after 8. > > > > Mr Quimbys Beard coped OK and performed an admirable set (shame I missed > > meeting Hardy due to the late opening).Colin Allen was recording at the > > sound desk, so hopefully the desk mix was better. > > > > HW were appalling. Possibly the worst I've seen since some bad days in > > 83/84. And if anyone ever mentions what Tim Blake did to"Spirit Of The > > Age", I will not be responsible for my actions. (That means ArinandRich!) > > > > The new percussive side didn't gel at all, and the Ballroom Pier is very > > very unpleasant. > > > > Plus sides - um, I managed to see Hawkwind this year:-) Hope it works > > better at the fest. > > > From coral at APORT.RU Mon Jul 22 10:12:32 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:12:32 +0400 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: > Earth Calling > Night of the Hawks > Flying Doctor who was singing Flying Doctor? Alisa From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 10:14:13 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:14:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > Earth Calling > > Night of the Hawks > > Flying Doctor > > who was singing Flying Doctor? > > Alisa > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 22 10:16:14 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:16:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: Ali! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:12 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > Earth Calling > > Night of the Hawks > > Flying Doctor > > who was singing Flying Doctor? > > Alisa From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 10:19:20 2002 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:19:20 +0100 Subject: HW:Summer Camp Message-ID: > > Subject: Re: Re: HW: Hastings > > > > Hawkwind played for 2 hours, 9.00pm until just after 11.00pm when council > > restrictions stopped play. > > The council would only allow music licence from 6.00. we pushed it playing > > at 5 and also having various amplified music all day around the site plus > > soundchecks! > > > > Sorry if you feel you wasted ?50, everyone I spoke to thoroughly enjoyed > it. > > > > Also Dave does not have a bus! > > > > Maybe we were all at a different festival????? > > > > Kris > > > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jobson, Eddie > To: > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > > Didn't go to Hastings but spoke to Tim at the Summer Camp and the band were > aware of the sound problems at Hastings. The set list seems similar to what > was played in Devon, but did seem short. Huw turned up at the last minute, > but was wasted and I couldn't hear his guitar too much anyway. I thought > Dave and Alan held it together and seemed to be enjoying themselves. > Apparently the local council restricted the music up 'til 11pm only, if that > was the case why didn't everything start earlier rather than around 5pm. It > was a poor turn out and for ?50 plus petrol etc would have like to have seen > more than an hour of HW, unless it was longer than that and time flew? > Weather was good though and it was nice talking to the band and Dave's bus > is something else! > > My twopenneth, > > Eddie. > > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 10:22:53 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:22:53 +0100 Subject: HW:Summer Camp Message-ID: Kris, Sounds like it was a great occasion! Could you do it all again next month please? Best wishes Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hawkwind" To: Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: HW:Summer Camp > > Subject: Re: Re: HW: Hastings > > > > Hawkwind played for 2 hours, 9.00pm until just after 11.00pm when council > > restrictions stopped play. > > The council would only allow music licence from 6.00. we pushed it playing > > at 5 and also having various amplified music all day around the site plus > > soundchecks! > > > > Sorry if you feel you wasted ?50, everyone I spoke to thoroughly enjoyed > it. > > > > Also Dave does not have a bus! > > > > Maybe we were all at a different festival????? > > > > Kris > > > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jobson, Eddie > To: > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > > Didn't go to Hastings but spoke to Tim at the Summer Camp and the band were > aware of the sound problems at Hastings. The set list seems similar to what > was played in Devon, but did seem short. Huw turned up at the last minute, > but was wasted and I couldn't hear his guitar too much anyway. I thought > Dave and Alan held it together and seemed to be enjoying themselves. > Apparently the local council restricted the music up 'til 11pm only, if that > was the case why didn't everything start earlier rather than around 5pm. It > was a poor turn out and for ?50 plus petrol etc would have like to have seen > more than an hour of HW, unless it was longer than that and time flew? > Weather was good though and it was nice talking to the band and Dave's bus > is something else! > > My twopenneth, > > Eddie. > > > > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 22 10:29:13 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:29:13 +0100 Subject: HW:Summer Camp Message-ID: Huge thanks to Kris, Tone, Dave & all the guys and everyone else who made this a highly enjoyable weekend. Great atmosphere and a great set from the band. Can we do it again next year? Nick From coral at APORT.RU Mon Jul 22 10:30:31 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:30:31 +0400 Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: Wow! great! > Ali > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alisa" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > > > > Earth Calling > > > Night of the Hawks > > > Flying Doctor > > > > who was singing Flying Doctor? > > > > Alisa > > > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 22 10:34:15 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:34:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings - brief response Message-ID: It won't go down as one HW's best gigs by any means. Huw was completely out of it and pretty much had to told to stop playing Fur Kirsty by Dave and he was mixed out during the following song. Tim's singing of Spirit Of The Age just didn't work for me and need more than just Richard backing him up. The sound was bad which kind of brought the gig down generally and the band didn't really gell. There were some great moments, some amazing soloing from Dave here and there, particularly in Damnation Alley. Hurry On Sundown was great too. Oh, and it was Ali who sung Flying Doctor, with Dave throwing in some the spken bits in the middle. The Hawkfest set, however, was a different matter. Better sound, much, much tighter. Huw was better than at Devon but not on peak form. At least he could be heard playing Strange Flower even if his vocals were a bit weak. Again Spirit Of The Age didn't work for me with Tim's vocals. This time Dave bailed him out thou'! A cracking set, same as Hastings but plus a jammed piece with Captain Rizz. Close on to 2hrs. Brainbox Pollution, Night Of The Hawks (they just had to open the festival set with this!), LSD, Hurry On Sundown, Damnation Alley (too long since that was last played!) and The Watcher were high spots for me. Great lights again from Chaos Illumination. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hastings - brief response > You all are saying about the sound. But the sound is not the band playing. > And if the sound wasn't good enough it doesn't mean the playing is bad. It's > just the sound. It's the mistake of sound engineer. > Sound is very important part of concert but not everything. > > From what I've read it would be a very interesting show for me. So I will > definitely try to find a recording. > > Alisa From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Jul 22 10:34:36 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:34:36 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Citizens of the Midwest... are you ready to testify? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20020721224725.0069bdfc@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: Well, I can't really add much to Jason's review. But I will say that: a) Dave has a great singing voice. b) The band all have excellent shoes. c) There are songs you weren't expecting and new arrangements that give the classics a completely different feel. d) Jason is a dancing maniac who actually matches the intensity of the band for the entire show. If you get to see the Surgeons when he's in the house, you get two shows for the price of one! Also, for those who have never seen the band, be sure to check them out. It was my girlfriend's first Surgeons gig and she had a great time. She definitely thought Deb was one hip chic! (And she's dying to know where the aforementioned shoes came from.) Brian From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 22 11:05:35 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:05:35 EDT Subject: HW: Hastings Message-ID: Sounds like a great set of songs to listen to In a message dated Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:49:33 AEDT, Colin J Allen writes: > Oh yes, the Hastings setlist: > > Earth Calling > Night of the Hawks > Flying Doctor > LSD > Fur Kirsty > Strange Flower > Lighthouse > Spiral Galaxy > Spirit of the Age > Damnation Alley > The Watcher > Brainbox Pollution > You Shouldn't Do That > Earth Calling > > Motorway City > Hurry on Sundown > > There was supposed to be a "reggae jam" in there too but Rizz did not turn > up. > > Colin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > > > Definitely not the best Hawkwind concert ever! > > > > However, I have to say that some of the problems were down to the sound > > crew; they were completely inept, even down to not knowing their own > > equipment and how to connect it up. They actually managed to run out of > > leads and had to borrow some of mine, thus turning my multitrack recording > > of Mister Quimby's Beard into a straight stereo recording! > > > > Having said that, there were problems with the band; Huw was "feeling > > unwell", which was reflected in his playing, if that is what one could > call > > it. The combination of Richard and Danny did not work well; maybe it will > > take a bit of time to settle down. Tim, who I admire and respect > immensely, > > really should not have been allowed to "sing". > > > > Overall, a weak performance but one that was made immeasurably worse by > the > > truly dreadful sound. > > > > Colin (the utterly pissed off person!) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "The Rocker" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 11:50 AM > > Subject: HW: Hastings > > > > > > > Oh dear. > > > > > > That really wasn't too good was it. > > > > > > 'Sound problems' according to band sources, which meant the doors didn't > > > open till after 8. > > > > > > Mr Quimbys Beard coped OK and performed an admirable set (shame I missed > > > meeting Hardy due to the late opening).Colin Allen was recording at the > > > sound desk, so hopefully the desk mix was better. > > > > > > HW were appalling. Possibly the worst I've seen since some bad days in > > > 83/84. And if anyone ever mentions what Tim Blake did to"Spirit Of The > > > Age", I will not be responsible for my actions. (That means > ArinandRich!) > > > > > > The new percussive side didn't gel at all, and the Ballroom Pier is very > > > very unpleasant. > > > > > > Plus sides - um, I managed to see Hawkwind this year:-) Hope it works > > > better at the fest. > > > > > From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 09:36:00 2002 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:36:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Summer Camp Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: HW: Hastings > Hawkwind played for 2 hours, 9.00pm until just after 11.00pm when council > restrictions stopped play. > The council would only allow music licence from 6.00. we pushed it playing > at 5 and also having various amplified music all day around the site plus > soundchecks! > > Sorry if you feel you wasted ?50, everyone I spoke to thoroughly enjoyed it. > > Also Dave does not have a bus! > > Maybe we were all at a different festival????? > > Kris . ----- Original Message ----- From: Jobson, Eddie To: Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:10 AM Subject: Re: HW: Hastings Didn't go to Hastings but spoke to Tim at the Summer Camp and the band were aware of the sound problems at Hastings. The set list seems similar to what was played in Devon, but did seem short. Huw turned up at the last minute, but was wasted and I couldn't hear his guitar too much anyway. I thought Dave and Alan held it together and seemed to be enjoying themselves. Apparently the local council restricted the music up 'til 11pm only, if that was the case why didn't everything start earlier rather than around 5pm. It was a poor turn out and for ?50 plus petrol etc would have like to have seen more than an hour of HW, unless it was longer than that and time flew? Weather was good though and it was nice talking to the band and Dave's bus is something else! My twopenneth, Eddie. From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Jul 22 11:46:27 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:46:27 +0100 Subject: Summer Camp Message-ID: Apologies if the set was as long as 2 hours, it seemed much shorter to me, was still good though. What was that big green double decker bus shapped vehicle that Dave spent many hours sitting next to, if it wasn't a bus. I've lived and worked in London all my life and that sure looked like a bus to me? Maybe he doesn't own it but it looked cool anyway. Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Hawkwind To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 22/07/02 15:19 Subject: HW:Summer Camp > > Subject: Re: Re: HW: Hastings > > > > Hawkwind played for 2 hours, 9.00pm until just after 11.00pm when council > > restrictions stopped play. > > The council would only allow music licence from 6.00. we pushed it playing > > at 5 and also having various amplified music all day around the site plus > > soundchecks! > > > > Sorry if you feel you wasted ?50, everyone I spoke to thoroughly enjoyed > it. > > > > Also Dave does not have a bus! > > > > Maybe we were all at a different festival????? > > > > Kris > > > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jobson, Eddie > To: > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > > Didn't go to Hastings but spoke to Tim at the Summer Camp and the band were > aware of the sound problems at Hastings. The set list seems similar to what > was played in Devon, but did seem short. Huw turned up at the last minute, > but was wasted and I couldn't hear his guitar too much anyway. I thought > Dave and Alan held it together and seemed to be enjoying themselves. > Apparently the local council restricted the music up 'til 11pm only, if that > was the case why didn't everything start earlier rather than around 5pm. It > was a poor turn out and for ?50 plus petrol etc would have like to have seen > more than an hour of HW, unless it was longer than that and time flew? > Weather was good though and it was nice talking to the band and Dave's bus > is something else! > > My twopenneth, > > Eddie. > > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 11:51:36 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:51:36 +0100 Subject: Summer Camp Message-ID: How were the other bands? In particular Litmus (my favourite band at the moment). Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jobson, Eddie" To: Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Summer Camp Apologies if the set was as long as 2 hours, it seemed much shorter to me, was still good though. What was that big green double decker bus shapped vehicle that Dave spent many hours sitting next to, if it wasn't a bus. I've lived and worked in London all my life and that sure looked like a bus to me? Maybe he doesn't own it but it looked cool anyway. Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Hawkwind To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 22/07/02 15:19 Subject: HW:Summer Camp > > Subject: Re: Re: HW: Hastings > > > > Hawkwind played for 2 hours, 9.00pm until just after 11.00pm when council > > restrictions stopped play. > > The council would only allow music licence from 6.00. we pushed it playing > > at 5 and also having various amplified music all day around the site plus > > soundchecks! > > > > Sorry if you feel you wasted ?50, everyone I spoke to thoroughly enjoyed > it. > > > > Also Dave does not have a bus! > > > > Maybe we were all at a different festival????? > > > > Kris > > > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jobson, Eddie > To: > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > > Didn't go to Hastings but spoke to Tim at the Summer Camp and the band were > aware of the sound problems at Hastings. The set list seems similar to what > was played in Devon, but did seem short. Huw turned up at the last minute, > but was wasted and I couldn't hear his guitar too much anyway. I thought > Dave and Alan held it together and seemed to be enjoying themselves. > Apparently the local council restricted the music up 'til 11pm only, if that > was the case why didn't everything start earlier rather than around 5pm. It > was a poor turn out and for ?50 plus petrol etc would have like to have seen > more than an hour of HW, unless it was longer than that and time flew? > Weather was good though and it was nice talking to the band and Dave's bus > is something else! > > My twopenneth, > > Eddie. > > > > From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Mon Jul 22 12:05:11 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:05:11 +0100 Subject: Summer Camp Message-ID: Not sure what one Litmus were. One band had one of the roadies playing, Spacehead maybe, that was very HW and played a dead ringer of Space is Deep from Yule Ritual?. There were a couple of other guys before that on keyboards that knocked out some interesting sounds. Wasn't able to stay Sunday to listen to Tim Blakes set. Would be interested to know what he played and if he was any good. -----Original Message----- From: Colin J Allen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 22/07/02 16:51 Subject: Re: Summer Camp How were the other bands? In particular Litmus (my favourite band at the moment). Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jobson, Eddie" To: Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Summer Camp Apologies if the set was as long as 2 hours, it seemed much shorter to me, was still good though. What was that big green double decker bus shapped vehicle that Dave spent many hours sitting next to, if it wasn't a bus. I've lived and worked in London all my life and that sure looked like a bus to me? Maybe he doesn't own it but it looked cool anyway. Eddie. -----Original Message----- From: Hawkwind To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 22/07/02 15:19 Subject: HW:Summer Camp > > Subject: Re: Re: HW: Hastings > > > > Hawkwind played for 2 hours, 9.00pm until just after 11.00pm when council > > restrictions stopped play. > > The council would only allow music licence from 6.00. we pushed it playing > > at 5 and also having various amplified music all day around the site plus > > soundchecks! > > > > Sorry if you feel you wasted ?50, everyone I spoke to thoroughly enjoyed > it. > > > > Also Dave does not have a bus! > > > > Maybe we were all at a different festival????? > > > > Kris > > > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jobson, Eddie > To: > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Hastings > > > Didn't go to Hastings but spoke to Tim at the Summer Camp and the band were > aware of the sound problems at Hastings. The set list seems similar to what > was played in Devon, but did seem short. Huw turned up at the last minute, > but was wasted and I couldn't hear his guitar too much anyway. I thought > Dave and Alan held it together and seemed to be enjoying themselves. > Apparently the local council restricted the music up 'til 11pm only, if that > was the case why didn't everything start earlier rather than around 5pm. It > was a poor turn out and for ?50 plus petrol etc would have like to have seen > more than an hour of HW, unless it was longer than that and time flew? > Weather was good though and it was nice talking to the band and Dave's bus > is something else! > > My twopenneth, > > Eddie. > > > > From coral at APORT.RU Mon Jul 22 12:34:57 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alisa) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:34:57 +0400 Subject: HW:Summer Camp Message-ID: Hi, how other bands played, was there solo sets by Richard and acoustic one by Dave? Alisa From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 14:48:41 2002 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (Hawkwind) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:48:41 +0100 Subject: Fw: Summer Camp Message-ID: RE: Summer Camp That belonged to decker Lin, a good friend of ours, who used to run the Chaos Cafe on the free festival scene years ago, you may have seen her bus on documentaries about new age travellers. It used to have a big dove on the front, she and her family lived in it for many years, she brought up 6 kids in it. It was great to see her again at the camp. Dave sat outside many vehicles on the site chatting to friends and fans, but that doesn't mean they are his! :-) Yes the set was just over 2 hours, and the band worked hard playing their own sets or jamming with the other bands throughout the weekend. The organisation was huge and time consuming too, but we all did our best. Kris From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jul 22 15:02:57 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:02:57 -0400 Subject: HW price help Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:08:51 +0100, Si Halley wrote: >I`m looking to raise a bit of cash and have the following vinyl but no firm >idea of what a fair price is on them. > >Any help (or offers) appriciated. I don`t really want to sell but a >reasonable offer could be acceptable Filip's offer for the Imperial Pompadours album is spot on. It's probably the rarest of the lot. >Robert Calvert - Hype (A Side Records IF0311) >Hawkfan12 (All extras afaik - HWFB2) >Steve Swindles - Fresh Blood (Atco K50738) >Steve Swindles - Messages (RCA LPLI 5057) >ICU - Punkadelic - (Sharp103) >ICU - Maximum Effect (Avatar AALP5004) >ICU - Pass Out (Riddle 002) >Imperial Pompadors - (Ersatz Pomp 001) >Nik Turner - Xitintoday (Charisma CDS 4011) >Underground Zero - Never Reach The Stars (Flicknife Sharp023) >Underground Zero - Through The Looking Glass (Flicknife Sharp038) I'm not quite sure what HF12 is worth these days (probably about the same as 'Ersatz', with all the swag), but it's easily the second-rarest (or tied for first) album on the list. My guess is that 'Hype' and 'Xitintoday' (which should include the booklet) are the only other two on the list (besides the two aforementioned) that would go for more than ?5-?10. (and where IS Mike Coleman when you need him most?) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jul 22 15:06:25 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:06:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: SS stag party Message-ID: On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:52:48 -0700, Mark Licht wrote: >I nomimate Ampetamine to be the new Mike Coleman. Actually, Christian was on boc-l before Mike ... his posts were always interesting (especially the ones about his former? wife?), but had never been quite ... uh ... THIS interesting (more, please!). >BTW does anyone know what has become of the original Mike Coleman? >His email bounces, calling dumps into voicemail, and no posts on >OpaLoka for months. I wish I knew ... I hope he & his mom are OK ... -Doug (boc-l pseudo-historian) jasret at mindspring.com From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Mon Jul 22 15:23:19 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:23:19 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Citizens of the Midwest... are you ready to testify? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "yes and an amen" to all of Brian's alphabetically lettered points. Also, the band has a new backdrop! seeing is believing. And thanks for the due credit where it was due Albert songwise (and for everythign else). Don't forget to buy the new spiffy tour shirts! i wore mine to work and scared the cubicle dwellers something fierce :) And if you dont have PoW or to Helen with Love, buy em on tour! it's a steal (not if you buy them, that's a purchase actually. the band does not condone theft.)!! the honorary "Brother JC Crawford" of the Capital region, Jason From horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET Mon Jul 22 15:47:15 2002 From: horse at DARKSTAR.UK.NET (Horse) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:47:15 +0100 Subject: HW:Summer Camp In-Reply-To: <005101c2318b$44949ac0$6cd1fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: What a fabulous weekend. Hawkwind were on great form and most of the other bands were pretty good especially Bedouin and Huw. Could do with a bit more information next time about who's (probably) on and when. Only one complaint - THE BOGS!!!!! AAARRRGGHHH! Get a few more next time and have them cleaned out EVERY day. I didn't crap for three days. Horse From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Jul 22 15:55:52 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 05:55:52 +1000 Subject: OFF: SS stag party Message-ID: Mike and his mum are alive and coping with recent difficulties and when he can Mike will be back. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:06 AM Subject: Re: OFF: SS stag party > On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 12:52:48 -0700, Mark Licht > wrote: > > >I nomimate Ampetamine to be the new Mike Coleman. > > Actually, Christian was on boc-l before Mike ... his posts were always > interesting (especially the ones about his former? wife?), but had never > been quite ... uh ... THIS interesting (more, please!). > > >BTW does anyone know what has become of the original Mike Coleman? > >His email bounces, calling dumps into voicemail, and no posts on > >OpaLoka for months. > > I wish I knew ... I hope he & his mom are OK ... > > -Doug (boc-l pseudo-historian) > jasret at mindspring.com From si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 16:06:17 2002 From: si at SICKTHINGSUK.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:06:17 +0100 Subject: HW price help Message-ID: Subject: Re: HW price help > On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 15:08:51 +0100, Si Halley wrote: > > >I`m looking to raise a bit of cash and have the following vinyl but no firm > >idea of what a fair price is on them. > > > >Any help (or offers) appriciated. I don`t really want to sell but a > >reasonable offer could be acceptable > > Filip's offer for the Imperial Pompadours album is spot on. It's probably > the rarest of the lot. Well if there`s no other offers it looks like it`s your Filip! Mail me off list to sort out getting it to you safely. > >Robert Calvert - Hype (A Side Records IF0311) > >Hawkfan12 (All extras afaik - HWFB2) > >Steve Swindles - Fresh Blood (Atco K50738) > >Steve Swindles - Messages (RCA LPLI 5057) > >ICU - Punkadelic - (Sharp103) > >ICU - Maximum Effect (Avatar AALP5004) > >ICU - Pass Out (Riddle 002) > >Imperial Pompadors - (Ersatz Pomp 001) > >Nik Turner - Xitintoday (Charisma CDS 4011) > >Underground Zero - Never Reach The Stars (Flicknife Sharp023) > >Underground Zero - Through The Looking Glass (Flicknife Sharp038) > > I'm not quite sure what HF12 is worth these days (probably about the same > as 'Ersatz', with all the swag), but it's easily the second-rarest (or tied > for first) album on the list. My guess is that 'Hype' and 'Xitintoday' > (which should include the booklet) It does. Had totally forgotten about it! >are the only other two on the list > (besides the two aforementioned) that would go for more than ?5-?10. Ok. Thanks for the reply. Much appriciated. > (and where IS Mike Coleman when you need him most?) haha. That had occured to me as well! Thanks all. Si From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 22 19:03:43 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:03:43 +0100 Subject: HW:Summer Camp Message-ID: Ali did a set with Bedouin on Friday, Simon guested with Astralasia on Saturday Tim played a set on Sunday and Huw performed a fairly impromptu set with Dibs on bass and Martin Griffin and his son sharing the drumming duties. All good sets, one of the best I've seen from bedouin for a while and there was some great jamming in Huw's set. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alisa" To: Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: Re: HW:Summer Camp > Hi, > > how other bands played, was there solo sets by Richard and acoustic one by > Dave? > > Alisa From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 22 19:06:03 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:06:03 +0100 Subject: HW:Summer Camp Message-ID: Oh, and of course Richard and Danny both performed in the drum workshop on Sunday pm. Nick From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 22 19:09:39 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:09:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Summer Camp Message-ID: Gosh - that was fun! Thanks to Kris, Dave, everyone for organising that. Haven't had such a relaxed and friendly 3 days in years - it was really nice to wander around meeting folk I'd only ever seen as email names! Bands were all good - Hawkwind did a very heavy-sound set. Track list was (I think) the same as Hastings and the encore became part of the main set because of the time restrictions. Earth Calling was interesting and there were two tracks I didn't recognise. It's a good combination of tracks that merge well together though the first three or four tracks seemed to take a long long time to get going. The pace really picked up from Spirit of the Age through to Earth Calling and Hurry on Sundown is a great way to finish. They had a huge stage with a massive domed roof and the lightshow was projected onto the inside of it. Once it got properly dark (and it takes a long time to get dark in Devon in July) it was splendidly impressive! Martin Griffin was there and played drums with Huw's "Broken Bits Band". Also Mick Slattery (I think?!). Tim Blake came to join a group of us in a chat round a campfire after the show. Richard Chadwick did a drumming master class. Dave was pedalling one of Merrick's laid-back tricycles around the place. Kevin Barton played guitar with Spacehead. I managed to see Mr Quimby's Beard at last - excellent band and they are doing a studio album at the moment. There were camp fires after the show and loads of interesting people to talk to although total numbers were smaller than I'd expected. And the days were perfect summer weather - warm sunshine with enough of a wind and clouds to prevent it becoming intolerably hot. Downsides - how COLD it got at night! The Cafe not opening for breakfast until mid afternoon. And, yes, the loos 8-(( I took Sunday afternoon off to walk 3 miles to Beer to find (a) Sunday lunch and (b) flushing toilets! Anyhow hi to everyone I met. Hope you all got home safely. And many many thanks to Hawkwind and all involved in the Hawkfest. . jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Hawkwind Yes the set was just over 2 hours, and the band worked hard playing their own sets or jamming with the other bands throughout the weekend. The organisation was huge and time consuming too, but we all did our best. Kris From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Mon Jul 22 22:58:13 2002 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:58:13 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind; Blake; BOC; Motorhead Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Meanwhile, here are some excerpts for BOC and Hawkwind fans. Available now from Voiceprint Hawkwind/Live '90 ....import double CD This long awaited release includes some brilliant material from 1990. Not only does this double CD contain the whole Nottingham 1990 show but also a unique TV broadcast. Hawkwind made the rare TV appearance on a music show called "Bedrock". It was a strange affair, as although it was filmed live the set was interrupted a few times for the Bedrock team to make adjustments. Equally as strange, was that the lighting levels were unusually high (for a Hawkwind concert at least), this was so that viewers had something to watch, as the show was to be screened across all the ITV regions. Hawkwind's screen projections, because of the high lighting levels, had to be filmed the following day, and placed over the footage. The show was a real stormer. For the first time it was possible to see the band clearly, rather than shadowy figures on stage. Bridgett Wishart (Hippy Slags) guested on vocals. Shortly after the TV event Simon House left the band and Bridgett Wishart, who'd been guesting with the band for some months, joined on a full-time basis. Bridgett was the first female vocalist for Hawkwind. Packed with great pictures and sleeve notes full of anecdotes. soundbite - Coming soon from Voiceprint Tim Blake/Jerusalem ....import CD Tim Blake has been a member of 'Gong', 'Crystal Machine' and Hawkwind as well as having a successful solo career. He founded the Crystal Machine studio in Paris and bought the seventh EMS synthesizer on the market and modified it. Tim joined Gong in 1972 and participated in the 'Flying Teapot' recording and co-wrote other material before leaving the band in 1975. Pursuing his Crystal Machine project he staged shows in Paris which gave him a lot of public exposure. Some of the material from these shows was taped and formed the 'Crystal Machine' album first released in 1977 and successfully reissued on the Blueprint label more recently. In 1978 Tim was specifically interested in releasing an album of songs in order to express himself. This became the album 'New Jerusalem' and he performed more vocals than he normally did and was joined on keyboards by blind French musician Jean-Philippe Rykiel. In 1979 Tim joined Hawkwind and the band subsequently played live versions of 'New Jerusalem' and 'Lighthouse', which proved very popular with the latter appearing on 'Live '79' as well as the studio album 'Levitation' in 1980. Tim left Hawkwind shortly afterwards only to headline Glastonbury in the early 80's, surrounded by banks of synthesizers and a stunning light show. This had a profound influence on Jean Michel Jarre, who developed these ideas onto a world stage. Tim's third album 'Magick' was released by Voiceprint followed by 'Tide Of The Century' much to the delight of old and new fans alike. 'New Jerusalem' is being reissued due to popular demand. On our new imports page BLUE OYSTER CULT-CULT CLASSIC/HEAVEN FORBID (2CD) Import compilation combines the 1998 album, Heaven Forbid with the 1994 compilation, Cult Classic. Standard jewelcases housed in a slipcase. On our forthcoming imports page MOTORHEAD-25 & ALIVE - BONESHAKER + 1 Live at Brixton Academy, London England, October 22, 2000. 25th Anniversary. 23 tracks, 3 encores. 2 1/2 hours playing time. Recorded with 8 cameras in Dolby 5.1 Surround. Includes guest appearances by Brian May, Fast Eddie Clarke, Doro Pesch and Whitfield Crane. Archive parts with rare photos, TV appearances and interviews. Acoustic bonus track 'Ain't No Nice Guy' feat. Lemmy and Phil. History of the band with Lemmy's own words. Photo gallery, fan material, obscure releases. 20 minute Electronic Press Kit feat. interviews with the band and guest stars. Plus 6 live tracks from the 2002 Wacken Open Air Festival Germany. Subtitles in German and Spanish. 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Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 23 06:06:51 2002 From: djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (King of Comedy) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:06:51 -0400 Subject: HAWKFEST/HASTINGS Message-ID: A huuuuuuuugggggge thanx to Dave and Kris, Tone, John and Jan (fueling up the crew in the mornings}, Neil & Marie Colin, Chris, Brian, Scott, Andy, Rick M., Mark Sali, Robin, Scott {USA) and all the Hawks for being so entertainig on and off stage. The effect of creating the spirit of festivals past succeeded, the bands were great, and I had immense fun playing bass with ONE EYED BISHOPS, and HUW'S BROKEN BITS BAND, as well as my own band, SPACEHEAD, (thanx Dave and Tim!). We had 5 people running Chaos Illuminations on Saturday nite, Neil & Marie, myself, Keith Barton, and eric seigerman's mate whose name I forget, sorry mate, long week! Hastings- right then. The band played x-well, the huge problem was the PA crew, if you can call them that. What a bunch of amateurs, sorry, butthe blame imho lies firmly at their feet. Don't blame the Hawks! And a quick one to the guy who decided not to buy a Fest ticket on the basis of Hastings. FOOL! All in all, WOW!!!!!!!!!!! See you all at WAR OF THE WORLDS, AUGUST 31ST HEATON PARK, MANCHESTER, ENGLAND. SEE MISSION CONTROL FOR DETAILS AND AGAIN, A HUGE THANKS TO EVRYONE THAT CAME TO THE FEST, AND TO THOSE WHO GOT/KEPT IT TOGETHER! HURRAH! MR. DIBS From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 23 09:55:54 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:55:54 -0400 Subject: HW:Summer Camp Message-ID: This was the best weekend I have had all year. And not just because it was Hawkwind but because it was such a good social gathering. I was a bit disappointed at first because the amount of people who turned up seemed smaller than I expected but it just got better and better for me. Everyone there was very friendly, nice relaxed atmosphere. There were no thieves or blaggers which is the main reason I won't go to most festivals anymore, none of that squalid paranoia you get at Glastonbury. This festival was like Canterbury last year. Let's have more of the same. We got there a little late for Litmus who I wanted to see but a BOC-L lurker (hello Richard ??? have you come down yet?) introduced me to the band so I'll catch them in London some time. Hawkwind played very well on Saturday night and the sound was crystal clear. Not quite as good as Canterbury though which seemed much fresher at the time. The highlight for me was watching Huw LL and Martin Griffin jamming with some other guys on Sunday night. Martin Griffin is probably my favourite Hawkwind drummer and I've never actually seen him before so this was a magic moment for me. I realised who he was halfway through the first song. With style like that I could have watched him play the drums for hours. This set looked to me like some kind of late 70s festival jam so if someone recorded it...please stick it on a weird tape. The weather was almost perfect and at night the cafe was the place to be when it got cold. The location was brilliant. When the bands weren't playing we spent the daytimes down at either Sidmouth or Beer hanging out on the beach. I met loads of people so 'hello' to all who know me. A special radio one style shout goes out to Rob Dreamworker and Stephe Lindas, Alan and Andrea who me, Steve and Ben had a right laugh with all weekend. On the way back we popped into Stonehenge to watch the tourists turn around the stones. The mechanisation achieved by English Heritage was almost perfect. Ben swapped his english soul for some souvenirs in the shop afterwards. Now I am back in the city and it is shite. So I hope that the organisers at least made a small profit out of this so that you will consider putting it on again next year. Thanks, Alastair. On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:19:20 +0100, Hawkwind wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: Re: HW: Hastings >> >> >> > Hawkwind played for 2 hours, 9.00pm until just after 11.00pm when >council >> > restrictions stopped play. >> > The council would only allow music licence from 6.00. we pushed it >playing >> > at 5 and also having various amplified music all day around the site >plus >> > soundchecks! >> > >> > Sorry if you feel you wasted ?50, everyone I spoke to thoroughly enjoyed >> it. >> > >> > Also Dave does not have a bus! >> > >> > Maybe we were all at a different festival????? >> > >> > Kris >> >> >> . >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jobson, Eddie >> To: >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:10 AM >> Subject: Re: HW: Hastings >> >> >> Didn't go to Hastings but spoke to Tim at the Summer Camp and the band >were >> aware of the sound problems at Hastings. The set list seems similar to >what >> was played in Devon, but did seem short. Huw turned up at the last minute, >> but was wasted and I couldn't hear his guitar too much anyway. I thought >> Dave and Alan held it together and seemed to be enjoying themselves. >> Apparently the local council restricted the music up 'til 11pm only, if >that >> was the case why didn't everything start earlier rather than around 5pm. >It >> was a poor turn out and for ?50 plus petrol etc would have like to have >seen >> more than an hour of HW, unless it was longer than that and time flew? >> Weather was good though and it was nice talking to the band and Dave's bus >> is something else! >> >> My twopenneth, >> >> Eddie. >> >> >> >> From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 23 10:04:49 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:04:49 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Summer Camp Message-ID: A big thanks to Dave, Kris and the crew for putting this on. The bands were great and clearly enjoying themselves. Hawkwind's set was storming and it's good to hear Brainbox Pollution again. Thanks to Tim for being cool when I didn't recognise him. A great weekend and we couldn't have had better weather. Well done to the guys at the cafe who worked very hard - I guess they didn't quite expect to be in a monopoly situation. Great to see the lightshow again - thanks to you guys. Thanks also to Merrick and Julie for hospitality at the fire and for the pile of cans. Sorry no Beerhenge - structural failure! The downsides were few, especially as the camper van had its own toilet (though emptying the cassette at the local pub was a bit of a downer). I guess more toilets would mean fewer pastel ribbons decorating the hedges. It was great to see all you guys again and hopefully we'll do it all again next summer. Next stop: War of the Worlds! UuuuuLLLAAAAA! Mike "Urban Gorilla" Holmes From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 23 10:10:18 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:10:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Hastings In-Reply-To: Chris Warburton's message of Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:51:08 +0100 Message-ID: Chris Warburton writes: > > All I have to say on the subject is: > > "Tim.... Don't sing!" I'd still have taken an instrumental of New Jerusalem down at the camp though, even if Tim's voice was out. Shame he had such a short set. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 23 09:03:52 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:03:52 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe In-Reply-To: Bill & Cynthia's message of Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:16:35 +0800 Message-ID: Bill & Cynthia writes: > Thanks Doug > > I think I'll stick to beer. Beer? What is this "beer" of which you speak? FoFP From desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jul 23 14:21:15 2002 From: desdinova at MADASAFISH.COM (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:21:15 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe In-Reply-To: <200207231303.OAA05518@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: He's off again *g* At 14:03 23/07/02, you wrote: >Bill & Cynthia writes: > > > Thanks Doug > > > > I think I'll stick to beer. > >Beer? What is this "beer" of which you speak? > >FoFP -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release Date: 10/07/02 From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 23 14:50:13 2002 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (Steve Johnson) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:50:13 EDT Subject: War Of The Worlds - in Manchester... Message-ID: Don't know if this has been posted yet. I don't get chance to read everything. Have a look at this site: http://www.waroftheworlds.info/ Steve. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Jul 23 15:17:13 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:17:13 -0400 Subject: HW:Summer Camp Message-ID: Just want to add our thanks to EVERYONE involved in making the Summer Camp a huge success - It was a really enjoyable weekend - all your hard work was really appreciated. Hope it becomes a regular festival!! Mick & Julie Crook -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Jul 23 15:22:24 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 15:22:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Earth Calling Message-ID: Is it only me, or was Earth Calling (at the Hawkfest) a variation (different words) of the 'Seeing it as you Really are' ending of 'shouldn't do That' rather than a new song? Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From rdc at RDCDESIGN.COM Tue Jul 23 15:23:38 2002 From: rdc at RDCDESIGN.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:23:38 +0100 Subject: Guilfest In-Reply-To: <200207231355.JAA08469@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Apparently 3 Men & Black opened their set with Quark, Strangeness and Charm!!! Richard. From imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 15:47:21 2002 From: imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK (Jason Gool) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:47:21 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: Citizens of the Midwest... are you ready to testify? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20020721224725.0069bdfc@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: > > Unlike past forays into reporting by > yours truly, I'm not going to give the set list away completely. IT'S TOO > GOOD to be related on mere e-mail and computer screen, dig? Not even for us poor un-worthys across the pond? Jas. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 16:30:22 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:30:22 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: Having met you Mike, the following applies... *raise quizzical eyebrow... * :-) Hopefully I'll see you soon. (Oh, and there's a pic in the post for you!) :-) Chers, Rich. > Bill & Cynthia writes: > > > Thanks Doug > > > > I think I'll stick to beer. > > Beer? What is this "beer" of which you speak? > > FoFP > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 16:42:54 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:42:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dead Pool Message-ID: I'd just like to say that I've just scored eighteen points in our local pub dead pool with Leo McKern. That puts me eighteen points ahead of everyone else. :-) (Condolences to the family of the late, great Mr McKern, but sixty quid is sixty quid.) http://www.rootsquare.com/default.php?item=deadpool (But he's not updated it yet!) Anyone who wants to play, you need to be able to come to the King Edward VII in Stratford to physically hand over your fiver... Cheers, Rich. From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jul 23 16:38:59 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:38:59 +0000 Subject: Hawkfest Number 1. Message-ID: We'd like to thank everyone involved...we had such a great time...Hawkwind were great and it did go really quickly,,, just goes to show how good they were!!! The most relaxing time we've had at a Hawkwind meet.It's such a different atmosphere to the indoor gigs?? I really hope next year'll be on!!! Everyone we met or just saw will be making us grin ;) for a long long time yet...you're all wonderful!!Alan+Andrea...GriN smile giggle BLEEET..... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 16:48:35 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:48:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dead Pool Message-ID: Bollocks The address is http://www.rootsquare.com/dead/ for those who want to play. :-) Cheers, Rich. > I'd just like to say that I've just scored eighteen points in our local pub > dead pool with Leo McKern. > > That puts me eighteen points ahead of everyone else. > > :-) > > (Condolences to the family of the late, great Mr McKern, but sixty quid is > sixty quid.) > > http://www.rootsquare.com/default.php?item=deadpool (But he's not updated > it yet!) > > Anyone who wants to play, you need to be able to come to the King Edward VII > in Stratford to physically hand over your fiver... > > Cheers, > > Rich. > From Alan_Taylor at MADASAFISH.COM Tue Jul 23 16:49:53 2002 From: Alan_Taylor at MADASAFISH.COM (Alan Taylor) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:49:53 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Summer Camp In-Reply-To: <005e01c2327e$72b27000$1e00a8c0@rdcdesign.com> Message-ID: Hey everyone. Do you recognise this? http://www.multimap.com/map/photo.cgi?client=public&x=318645&y=91178&scale=1 0000&width=700&height=410 It's OUR FIELDS! Just thought I would post a photo that no-one else has, and say Hi to all you top notch folks that I met over the 2 days I was there. Hope you all had a great time and made it safely home. And thanks to everyone who organised it. Brainbox Pollution and Damnation Alley are still reverberating round my head. Cheers Alan From rdc at RDCDESIGN.COM Tue Jul 23 17:08:00 2002 From: rdc at RDCDESIGN.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 22:08:00 +0100 Subject: Hawkfest Number 1. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At risk of posting a 'Me, Too' message... Me, Too... :-) Richard. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-boc-l at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > [mailto:owner-boc-l at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of alan day > Sent: 23 July 2002 21:39 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Hawkfest Number 1. > > > We'd like to thank everyone involved...we had such a great > time...Hawkwind were great and it did go really quickly,,, > just goes to show how good they were!!! The most relaxing > time we've had at a Hawkwind meet.It's such a different > atmosphere to the indoor gigs?? I really hope next year'll be > on!!! Everyone we met or just saw will be making us grin ;) > for a long long time yet...you're all > wonderful!!Alan+Andrea...GriN smile giggle BLEEET..... From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jul 23 18:16:43 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:16:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dead Pool Message-ID: > > (Condolences to the family of the late, great Mr McKern, but sixty quid is > > sixty quid.) First I'd heard he'd died. Quite a loss. Rumpole was a truly great character and not to forget his appearances in The Prisoner. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 18:34:11 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:34:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the Phill Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of boring everyone shitless) H M Bobby V The Marks and Spencer Davis Group Burger King Crimson Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. Sly and the Oxfamily Stone Little Bairstow Evas Gong Places Go NatWest HSB10CC Barclays James Harvest The Inspiral Carpets At Home Sha Na NatWest Etammy Wynette Dorothy Carl Perkins Radiohead Rentals Macys Gray Blooming Dick Dales The Cometeors Peaches and Herbalife ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. New Model Army and Navy Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention Tammy Girlschool You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get read out... Pronuptua Nua anyone? Bob Dillons? R.E.M & S It was a heavy morning. :-) Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this evening, who came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF ARF!!! Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 18:34:59 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:34:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dead Pool Message-ID: Absolutely. Not to forget his glass eye. :-( Cheers, Rich. > > > (Condolences to the family of the late, great Mr McKern, but sixty quid > is > > > sixty quid.) > > First I'd heard he'd died. Quite a loss. Rumpole was a truly great > character and not to forget his appearances in The Prisoner. > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 18:31:52 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:31:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: Also: The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live recordings. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the Phill > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of boring > everyone shitless) > > H M Bobby V > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > Burger King Crimson > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > Little Bairstow Evas > Gong Places > Go NatWest > HSB10CC > Barclays James Harvest > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > Sha Na NatWest > Etammy Wynette > Dorothy Carl Perkins > Radiohead Rentals > Macys Gray > Blooming Dick Dales > The Cometeors > Peaches and Herbalife > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > New Model Army and Navy > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > Tammy Girlschool > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get read > out... > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > Bob Dillons? > R.E.M & S > > It was a heavy morning. > > :-) > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this evening, who > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF ARF!!! > > Cheers, > > Rich. > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 18:44:40 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:44:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! And... IS IT?!!! YES! :-) You've made me a very happy man Colin. Cheers, Rich. > Also: > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live > recordings. > > Colin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > > > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the Phill > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of boring > > everyone shitless) > > > > H M Bobby V > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > > Burger King Crimson > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > > Little Bairstow Evas > > Gong Places > > Go NatWest > > HSB10CC > > Barclays James Harvest > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > > Sha Na NatWest > > Etammy Wynette > > Dorothy Carl Perkins > > Radiohead Rentals > > Macys Gray > > Blooming Dick Dales > > The Cometeors > > Peaches and Herbalife > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > > New Model Army and Navy > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > > Tammy Girlschool > > > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get read > > out... > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > > Bob Dillons? > > R.E.M & S > > > > It was a heavy morning. > > > > :-) > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this evening, > who > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF ARF!!! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > From t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM Tue Jul 23 18:39:02 2002 From: t.byrne at NTLWORLD.COM (Tom Byrne) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:39:02 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Festival Message-ID: A very big thanks to Kris for splendid and dedicated organisation. We travelled 5 hours down to Devon (me, wife +2 kids) and it was well worth it. Imagine when you were 13 or 14 - would any music show your parents took you to be remotely cool? Well this one was. The kids were most impressed, as was the wife (Bernadette). A delightfully laid back atmosphere, pleasant people, great to meet friends from the internet. Storming performances from Litmus, Mr Quimby's Beard, Bedouin and of course Hawkwind (Brainbox Pollution - terrific). My elder youngster enjoyed his 10 minutes on the drums with Richard. Thanks to Steve Youles for running off to find the wife to come and watch him. Great location - we got to see Sidmouth, Seaton, Beer and went as far as Tintagel on Sunday morning. I think the old epithet "people's band" is richly deserved by Hawkwind for the care and patience they put into this event. Well done Tom From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 18:47:56 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:47:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: >From the R6 website... "By popular demand we can now make previous editions of the Dream Ticket available to you 24 hours a day via the BBC Radio Player. Each show will be available here for 7 days, bringing 6 Music's virtual concert hall into your front room at any time convenient to you" Excellent. Check out previous editions at... http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/bbcsessions/dream_ticket.shtml Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! > > And... > > IS IT?!!! > > YES! > > :-) > > You've made me a very happy man Colin. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > Also: > > > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday > > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live > > recordings. > > > > Colin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM > > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > > > > > > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the Phill > > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of > boring > > > everyone shitless) > > > > > > H M Bobby V > > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > > > Burger King Crimson > > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > > > Little Bairstow Evas > > > Gong Places > > > Go NatWest > > > HSB10CC > > > Barclays James Harvest > > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > > > Sha Na NatWest > > > Etammy Wynette > > > Dorothy Carl Perkins > > > Radiohead Rentals > > > Macys Gray > > > Blooming Dick Dales > > > The Cometeors > > > Peaches and Herbalife > > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > > > New Model Army and Navy > > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > > > Tammy Girlschool > > > > > > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get read > > > out... > > > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > > > Bob Dillons? > > > R.E.M & S > > > > > > It was a heavy morning. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this evening, > > who > > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF > ARF!!! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 16:36:09 2002 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:36:09 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: Citizens of the Midwest... are you ready to testify? In-Reply-To: <3D3DC0D9.700.1CB9271A@localhost> Message-ID: Jason Gool wrote: >Not even for us poor un-worthys across the pond? We are not worthy!! But will we ever be worthy? -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com Read my blog! http://www.kalyr.com/blogger.shtml From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 18:48:36 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:48:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: Now, all we have to find out is which recording it is; my money is on the Reading Festival broadcast. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! > > And... > > IS IT?!!! > > YES! > > :-) > > You've made me a very happy man Colin. > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > Also: > > > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday > > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live > > recordings. > > > > Colin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM > > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > > > > > > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the Phill > > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of > boring > > > everyone shitless) > > > > > > H M Bobby V > > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > > > Burger King Crimson > > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > > > Little Bairstow Evas > > > Gong Places > > > Go NatWest > > > HSB10CC > > > Barclays James Harvest > > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > > > Sha Na NatWest > > > Etammy Wynette > > > Dorothy Carl Perkins > > > Radiohead Rentals > > > Macys Gray > > > Blooming Dick Dales > > > The Cometeors > > > Peaches and Herbalife > > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > > > New Model Army and Navy > > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > > > Tammy Girlschool > > > > > > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get read > > > out... > > > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > > > Bob Dillons? > > > R.E.M & S > > > > > > It was a heavy morning. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this evening, > > who > > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF > ARF!!! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 18:56:51 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:56:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: Email Janice Long to find out! Cheers, R. > Now, all we have to find out is which recording it is; my money is on the > Reading Festival broadcast. > > > > Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! > > > > And... > > > > IS IT?!!! > > > > YES! > > > > :-) > > > > You've made me a very happy man Colin. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > Also: > > > > > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday > > > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live > > > recordings. > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM > > > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > > > > > > > > > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the > Phill > > > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of > > boring > > > > everyone shitless) > > > > > > > > H M Bobby V > > > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > > > > Burger King Crimson > > > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > > > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > > > > Little Bairstow Evas > > > > Gong Places > > > > Go NatWest > > > > HSB10CC > > > > Barclays James Harvest > > > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > > > > Sha Na NatWest > > > > Etammy Wynette > > > > Dorothy Carl Perkins > > > > Radiohead Rentals > > > > Macys Gray > > > > Blooming Dick Dales > > > > The Cometeors > > > > Peaches and Herbalife > > > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > > > > New Model Army and Navy > > > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > > > > Tammy Girlschool > > > > > > > > > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get > read > > > > out... > > > > > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > > > > Bob Dillons? > > > > R.E.M & S > > > > > > > > It was a heavy morning. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this > evening, > > > who > > > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF > > ARF!!! > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 23 18:59:00 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 06:59:00 +0800 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: Being in Oz I haven't tried too many British beers but I do like Double Diamond and a good Guinness. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: Re: Off: Absinthe > Bill & Cynthia writes: > > > Thanks Doug > > > > I think I'll stick to beer. > > Beer? What is this "beer" of which you speak? > > FoFP > From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 23 18:58:06 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:58:06 -0500 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: Well it Could be the Xenon Codex gig, or the early 70s in concert :-) Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin J Allen" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > Now, all we have to find out is which recording it is; my money is on the > Reading Festival broadcast. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! > > > > And... > > > > IS IT?!!! > > > > YES! > > > > :-) > > > > You've made me a very happy man Colin. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > Also: > > > > > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday > > > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live > > > recordings. > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM > > > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > > > > > > > > > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the > Phill > > > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of > > boring > > > > everyone shitless) > > > > > > > > H M Bobby V > > > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > > > > Burger King Crimson > > > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > > > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > > > > Little Bairstow Evas > > > > Gong Places > > > > Go NatWest > > > > HSB10CC > > > > Barclays James Harvest > > > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > > > > Sha Na NatWest > > > > Etammy Wynette > > > > Dorothy Carl Perkins > > > > Radiohead Rentals > > > > Macys Gray > > > > Blooming Dick Dales > > > > The Cometeors > > > > Peaches and Herbalife > > > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > > > > New Model Army and Navy > > > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > > > > Tammy Girlschool > > > > > > > > > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get > read > > > > out... > > > > > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > > > > Bob Dillons? > > > > R.E.M & S > > > > > > > > It was a heavy morning. > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this > evening, > > > who > > > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF > > ARF!!! > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 18:55:23 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:55:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: The one definite is that it will be incomplete:(. Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > Well it Could be the Xenon Codex gig, or the early 70s in concert :-) > > Rich W > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > Now, all we have to find out is which recording it is; my money is on the > > Reading Festival broadcast. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:44 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > > > > Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! > > > > > > And... > > > > > > IS IT?!!! > > > > > > YES! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > You've made me a very happy man Colin. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > Also: > > > > > > > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday > > > > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live > > > > recordings. > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM > > > > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the > > Phill > > > > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of > > > boring > > > > > everyone shitless) > > > > > > > > > > H M Bobby V > > > > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > > > > > Burger King Crimson > > > > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > > > > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > > > > > Little Bairstow Evas > > > > > Gong Places > > > > > Go NatWest > > > > > HSB10CC > > > > > Barclays James Harvest > > > > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > > > > > Sha Na NatWest > > > > > Etammy Wynette > > > > > Dorothy Carl Perkins > > > > > Radiohead Rentals > > > > > Macys Gray > > > > > Blooming Dick Dales > > > > > The Cometeors > > > > > Peaches and Herbalife > > > > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > > > > > New Model Army and Navy > > > > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > > > > > Tammy Girlschool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get > > read > > > > > out... > > > > > > > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > > > > > Bob Dillons? > > > > > R.E.M & S > > > > > > > > > > It was a heavy morning. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this > > evening, > > > > who > > > > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF > > > ARF!!! > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 19:04:00 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:04:00 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: HAHAHAHAAAAAARRRRGGGHH!!!!!!!! Sorry. The best beers in England (and indeed the world) are to be found at http://www.timothy-taylor.co.uk Cheers, Rich. > Being in Oz I haven't tried too many British beers but I do like Double > Diamond and a good Guinness. > > Bill > > > > Bill & Cynthia writes: > > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > > > I think I'll stick to beer. > > > > Beer? What is this "beer" of which you speak? > > > > FoFP > > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Jul 23 19:04:53 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:04:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: Well, it's (AFAIK) always a Radio 1 session, so In Concert sounds likely. Cheers, Rich. > Well it Could be the Xenon Codex gig, or the early 70s in concert :-) > > Rich W > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin J Allen" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:48 PM > Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > Now, all we have to find out is which recording it is; my money is on the > > Reading Festival broadcast. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:44 PM > > Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > > > > Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! > > > > > > And... > > > > > > IS IT?!!! > > > > > > YES! > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > You've made me a very happy man Colin. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > Also: > > > > > > > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday > > > > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live > > > > recordings. > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM > > > > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the > > Phill > > > > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk of > > > boring > > > > > everyone shitless) > > > > > > > > > > H M Bobby V > > > > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > > > > > Burger King Crimson > > > > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > > > > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > > > > > Little Bairstow Evas > > > > > Gong Places > > > > > Go NatWest > > > > > HSB10CC > > > > > Barclays James Harvest > > > > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > > > > > Sha Na NatWest > > > > > Etammy Wynette > > > > > Dorothy Carl Perkins > > > > > Radiohead Rentals > > > > > Macys Gray > > > > > Blooming Dick Dales > > > > > The Cometeors > > > > > Peaches and Herbalife > > > > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > > > > > New Model Army and Navy > > > > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > > > > > Tammy Girlschool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get > > read > > > > > out... > > > > > > > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > > > > > Bob Dillons? > > > > > R.E.M & S > > > > > > > > > > It was a heavy morning. > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this > > evening, > > > > who > > > > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF ARF > > > ARF!!! > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > > > > > From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Tue Jul 23 19:01:04 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:01:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dead Pool Message-ID: And of course `Help!' tim Nick Lee wrote: > > > > (Condolences to the family of the late, great Mr McKern, but sixty quid > is > > > sixty quid.) > > First I'd heard he'd died. Quite a loss. Rumpole was a truly great > character and not to forget his appearances in The Prisoner. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jul 23 19:54:33 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:54:33 -0400 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:04:00 +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: >HAHAHAHAAAAAARRRRGGGHH!!!!!!!! > >Sorry. > >The best beers in England (and indeed the world) are to be found at >http://www.timothy-taylor.co.uk You're right about the "HAHAHAHAAAAARGRRGRGHHH" part, since only one of their varieties is available in bottles, so those of us in the rest of the world are screwed. How does it compare with Samuel Smith's (my personal faves from the Brit isles, esp. their Oatmeal Stout [and the best Oatmeal Stout from the states in Anderson Valley, bar none!])? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 23 23:05:02 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:05:02 +0800 Subject: OFF: Dead Pool Message-ID: I just bought the DVD box set of The Prisoner, & was about to watch Chimes of Big Ben (his first appearance as Number 2), when I heard on the news he died. I thought it was a bit spooky that. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 6:16 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Dead Pool > > > (Condolences to the family of the late, great Mr McKern, but sixty quid > is > > > sixty quid.) > > First I'd heard he'd died. Quite a loss. Rumpole was a truly great > character and not to forget his appearances in The Prisoner. > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Jul 24 03:15:43 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:15:43 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: > >HAHAHAHAAAAAARRRRGGGHH!!!!!!!! > > > >Sorry. > > > >The best beers in England (and indeed the world) are to be found at > >http://www.timothy-taylor.co.uk > > You're right about the "HAHAHAHAAAAARGRRGRGHHH" part, since only one of > their varieties is available in bottles, so those of us in the rest of the > world are screwed. How does it compare with Samuel Smith's (my personal > faves from the Brit isles, esp. their Oatmeal Stout [and the best Oatmeal > Stout from the states in Anderson Valley, bar none!])? Draught Landlord is an extremely hoppy pale ale (bottled a little less so) - the nearest US beer I can compare it to is the Pale Ale they brew at the Monte Carlo Hotel, Las Vegas, in their brewpub. (Where I could have stayed all day!) :-) Cheers, Rich. From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jul 24 08:54:16 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:54:16 +0800 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: Ya cheeky bugger!!!!! Landlord seems to have won the most awards. Must be a good drop or you all have funny taste buds. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:04 AM Subject: Re: Off: Absinthe > HAHAHAHAAAAAARRRRGGGHH!!!!!!!! > > Sorry. > > The best beers in England (and indeed the world) are to be found at > http://www.timothy-taylor.co.uk > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > > > > Being in Oz I haven't tried too many British beers but I do like Double > > Diamond and a good Guinness. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > Bill & Cynthia writes: > > > > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > > > > > I think I'll stick to beer. > > > > > > Beer? What is this "beer" of which you speak? > > > > > > FoFP > > > > > > > From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jul 24 10:33:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:33:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Opal Butterfly Message-ID: As promised, details of the revised Opal Butterfly CD, now with 11 tracks and some previously unheard material. 8-) For those late to the party, Opal Butterfly was Simon King's band before Hawkwind, and also (briefly) featured Lemmy (on guitar). Anyway, it's all at http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/obcd.htm 8-)) ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 24 11:19:44 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:19:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: I just received a message from Radio 6 saying that it is the 1972 In Concert programme. They also said that it will be 1 hour long, rather than the usual 45 minutes:):):):):):). Colin n Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:04:53 +0100, Richard Lockwood wrote: >Well, it's (AFAIK) always a Radio 1 session, so In Concert sounds likely. > >Cheers, > >Rich. > > >> Well it Could be the Xenon Codex gig, or the early 70s in concert :-) >> >> Rich W >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Colin J Allen" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:48 PM >> Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 >> >> >> > Now, all we have to find out is which recording it is; my money is on >the >> > Reading Festival broadcast. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Richard Lockwood" >> > To: >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:44 PM >> > Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 >> > >> > >> > > Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! >> > > >> > > And... >> > > >> > > IS IT?!!! >> > > >> > > YES! >> > > >> > > :-) >> > > >> > > You've made me a very happy man Colin. >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > >> > > Rich. >> > > >> > > >> > > > Also: >> > > > >> > > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday >> > > > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live >> > > > recordings. >> > > > >> > > > Colin >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Richard Lockwood" >> > > > To: >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM >> > > > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the >> > Phill >> > > > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk >of >> > > boring >> > > > > everyone shitless) >> > > > > >> > > > > H M Bobby V >> > > > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group >> > > > > Burger King Crimson >> > > > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. >> > > > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone >> > > > > Little Bairstow Evas >> > > > > Gong Places >> > > > > Go NatWest >> > > > > HSB10CC >> > > > > Barclays James Harvest >> > > > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home >> > > > > Sha Na NatWest >> > > > > Etammy Wynette >> > > > > Dorothy Carl Perkins >> > > > > Radiohead Rentals >> > > > > Macys Gray >> > > > > Blooming Dick Dales >> > > > > The Cometeors >> > > > > Peaches and Herbalife >> > > > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. >> > > > > New Model Army and Navy >> > > > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention >> > > > > Tammy Girlschool >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't get >> > read >> > > > > out... >> > > > > >> > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? >> > > > > Bob Dillons? >> > > > > R.E.M & S >> > > > > >> > > > > It was a heavy morning. >> > > > > >> > > > > :-) >> > > > > >> > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this >> > evening, >> > > > who >> > > > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF >ARF >> > > ARF!!! >> > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > >> > > > > Rich. >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Jul 24 13:29:47 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:29:47 +0100 Subject: HW:Andy g? or weird tapes discs? Message-ID: Weird Tapes LP's are pic discs, limited to 500 of each and available in 4-6 weeks time. Get those orders in now as these are guaranteed to sell out, I assure you. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "filip" To: Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: HW:Andy g? or weird tapes discs? Hello all, have heard rumours that the weird tapes will be out on picture disc? my computor broke down for the so many time,so lost some of the conversations lately. has anyone more info greetings filip From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Wed Jul 24 14:11:47 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:11:47 -0300 Subject: Hawkfest memories: The One Eyed Bishops, proper thanks and recollections Message-ID: Hello everyone, where to begin? Well we jetted over and spent four days at the festival and had a splendid time; but that's understood. Hmmmm, how should I go about this summation? OK lets' start with some proper thank u's, then: Thanks to Kris & Dave for inviting us to perform at this very special and wonderful event. Dave, it was nice chatting about skiffle and 'tea chest basses'. You were right about the brilliant saxophonist, Cheers! I was not aware until later, that you were briefly present at our Friday night campsite rehearsal. Kris, thanks for helping me to laugh yet once more about our airline ticket mixup. London, Ontario would have been a very different experience! To those of you in the Canadian provinces, we have credit with Air Canada for the next 12 months and we intend to use it. Special thanks to the never ending wellspring of inspiration in my life, my love, Dr. Maria Ramundo. Lovely, your presence gave rise to a feeling not explainable in words. Phil, Kathy, Cheryl and families. Your hospitality after 30 sleepless hours will never be forgotten. Before thanking individual band members, may I say thanks to the following people; Jeff, Colin, Andy, Keith ( thanks for the ride mate) , the soundcrew and all production staff, Eric, Donna, Lindsey, Richard, Huw ( thanks for the invite to jam on Sunday, but we had to start back toward Heathrow), Tim ( I enjoyed our discussions over veggie burgers and coffee), Trev ( the Absinthe was much appreciated), all those who watched us play, those who helped us eat by buying our cds, and everyone who spoke to or offered us a kind word. I had been waiting for the right opportunity to play in the UK for many years. Now special musical thanks to the following individuals: 'Rustic' Rod Goodway; for acting as a liaison between Phil Smith and ourselves. Peace to you brother and thanks so much. www.Achingcellar.co.uk Don Craine: For those of you unfamiliar with Don's band, 'The Downliners Sect', I feel compelled to plug them. Don has really mentored and guided me through my continuing explorations of skiffle and Richmond R&B. He did knock The Beatles out of the number one spot in Sweden, and that's just one of decades worth of accomplishments. www.Angelfire.com/rock3/Yardbird_Sect/ The Band: Mr. Dibs: Bass guitar Dibs, thanks so much for joining us. I will never forget that version of 'Hymie the Winey'. I heard it on tape and you rocked!!! I also dug Spacehead's set very much. Loved that 'Space is Deep' jam, and Keith's modulated guitar...nice... www.Spacehead.iwarp.com Rogalski: Body Armour Washboard and assorted percussion This man made an 8 hour journey by motorway all the way from the northern territories to perform with us ( and then had to drive home the same night! ). We became worried when we did not see him until 20 minutes before the gig. Then that worry turned into an ecstatic state as we watched his wife assist him into his kilt. Next thing I knew he was having a good stiff drink. On stage he breathed life into the band with his mobility and enthusiasms. Thanks so much Rogalski and Lindsey. www.Bigpawsrecords.com Phil Smith: lead electric guitars Phil you just rock man. I don't know what else to say, you blew me away!! www.Headsmith.co.uk Jay Adcock: Djembe Dude, you are the best, and definitely my main man. Thanks for shlepping to gigs with me everywhere for all these years. I hope people will understand Jay's importance in all my projects. If it were not for him, I would be clueless in a lot of situations. http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com www.mp3.com/sloterdijk Mike Burro: Acoustic rhythm and lead guitar, vocals http://theoneeyedbishops.iuma.com www.mp3.com/sloterdijk And of course thank you Hawkwind; not just for this event and opportunity, but for years and years of enjoyment and persistence of vision in a truly mad world. In the coming days photos from the gig will be available on the Headsmith and OEBs websites!! Peace to all of you....Mike Burro PS: The One Eyed Bishops will appear on a compilation tape released by UK indie label and magazine 'Bliss Aquamarine' Check out www.blissaquamarine.net I apologize if I forgot anyone:) From yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 24 16:21:59 2002 From: yadnala at HOTMAIL.COM (alan day) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:21:59 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Festival Message-ID: I totally agree Tom..we are a very luckey bunch of fans and folks may sometimes forget how in touch with us Hawkwind are...I feel so blessed that I got turned on to this band...some bands and artists just are soooo distant....thanx Hawkwind!! It's also the people that are into Hawkwind...maybe that's why were so lucky!!Off to Budapest tomorrow...enjoy the rest of summer and hope to see some of you at WotW s 31/8/02... >From: Tom Byrne >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Hawkwind Festival >Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 23:39:02 +0100 > >A very big thanks to Kris for splendid and dedicated organisation. > >We travelled 5 hours down to Devon (me, wife +2 kids) and it was well worth >it. > >Imagine when you were 13 or 14 - would any music show your parents took you >to be remotely cool? > >Well this one was. The kids were most impressed, as was the wife >(Bernadette). > >A delightfully laid back atmosphere, pleasant people, great to meet friends >from the internet. > >Storming performances from Litmus, Mr Quimby's Beard, Bedouin and of course >Hawkwind (Brainbox Pollution - terrific). > >My elder youngster enjoyed his 10 minutes on the drums with Richard. Thanks >to Steve Youles for running off to find the wife to come and watch him. > >Great location - we got to see Sidmouth, Seaton, Beer and went as far as >Tintagel on Sunday morning. > >I think the old epithet "people's band" is richly deserved by Hawkwind for >the care and patience they put into this event. > >Well done > >Tom _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Jul 24 18:45:15 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:45:15 +0100 Subject: Off: Absinthe Message-ID: It's a quite remarkable drink (says the man who's been drinking it all night tonight) - won more awards than any other British beer - when you want to come and visit, give me a shout and I'll point you in the direction of the Rat and Ratchet in Huddersfield ( www.ratandratchet.co.uk ) and the Boltmakers arms in Keighley, where you will find ales to tickle your tastebuds like no other beer ever has, and, in the case of the R&R, a most fantastic vlues jukebox (where, if you're the only one in there on, say, a Tuesday pm, Andrew the Landlord will stick 20 credits on and ask you to go and put some decent music on - what more can you ask for??!!) Cheers, Rich. > Ya cheeky bugger!!!!! > > Landlord seems to have won the most awards. Must be a good drop or you all > have funny taste buds. > > Bill > > > > HAHAHAHAAAAAARRRRGGGHH!!!!!!!! > > > > Sorry. > > > > The best beers in England (and indeed the world) are to be found at > > http://www.timothy-taylor.co.uk > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > > > > > > Being in Oz I haven't tried too many British beers but I do like Double > > > Diamond and a good Guinness. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill & Cynthia writes: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > > > > > > > I think I'll stick to beer. > > > > > > > > Beer? What is this "beer" of which you speak? > > > > > > > > FoFP > > > > > > > > > > > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Jul 24 18:45:44 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:45:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 Message-ID: Excellent!!!! :-) R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Allen" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > I just received a message from Radio 6 saying that it is the 1972 In > Concert programme. They also said that it will be 1 hour long, rather than > the usual 45 minutes:):):):):):). > > Colin > > n Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:04:53 +0100, Richard Lockwood > wrote: > > >Well, it's (AFAIK) always a Radio 1 session, so In Concert sounds likely. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Rich. > > > > > >> Well it Could be the Xenon Codex gig, or the early 70s in concert :-) > >> > >> Rich W > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Colin J Allen" > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:48 PM > >> Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > >> > >> > >> > Now, all we have to find out is which recording it is; my money is on > >the > >> > Reading Festival broadcast. > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Richard Lockwood" > >> > To: > >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:44 PM > >> > Subject: Re: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > >> > > >> > > >> > > Thank fuck I'm not the only R6 listener! > >> > > > >> > > And... > >> > > > >> > > IS IT?!!! > >> > > > >> > > YES! > >> > > > >> > > :-) > >> > > > >> > > You've made me a very happy man Colin. > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > > >> > > Rich. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Also: > >> > > > > >> > > > The headline band on the Dream Ticket, starting at 10pm this Friday > >> > > > is....Hawkwind. This is usually excerts from one of the BBC live > >> > > > recordings. > >> > > > > >> > > > Colin > >> > > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > >> > > > To: > >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:34 PM > >> > > > Subject: OFF: Very off!: Radio 6 > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/phill_jupitus/ 7 - 10 BST > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Had twenty three of my "shop / music crossovers" read out on the > >> > Phill > >> > > > > Jupitus show this morning. They go as follows... (At the risk > >of > >> > > boring > >> > > > > everyone shitless) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > H M Bobby V > >> > > > > The Marks and Spencer Davis Group > >> > > > > Burger King Crimson > >> > > > > Snoop Doggy Dogg And The Dogg Poundstretcher. > >> > > > > Sly and the Oxfamily Stone > >> > > > > Little Bairstow Evas > >> > > > > Gong Places > >> > > > > Go NatWest > >> > > > > HSB10CC > >> > > > > Barclays James Harvest > >> > > > > The Inspiral Carpets At Home > >> > > > > Sha Na NatWest > >> > > > > Etammy Wynette > >> > > > > Dorothy Carl Perkins > >> > > > > Radiohead Rentals > >> > > > > Macys Gray > >> > > > > Blooming Dick Dales > >> > > > > The Cometeors > >> > > > > Peaches and Herbalife > >> > > > > ...and you will know us by the trail of Debenhams. > >> > > > > New Model Army and Navy > >> > > > > Frank Zappa and The Mothercares of Invention > >> > > > > Tammy Girlschool > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > You think they were bad - you should see the ones that didn't > get > >> > read > >> > > > > out... > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Pronuptua Nua anyone? > >> > > > > Bob Dillons? > >> > > > > R.E.M & S > >> > > > > > >> > > > > It was a heavy morning. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > :-) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Any more for any more? (Apart from my mate Wez in the pub this > >> > evening, > >> > > > who > >> > > > > came out with "The Sensational Alex Harvey Nicholls Band") ARF > >ARF > >> > > ARF!!! > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Rich. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Jul 24 18:48:43 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:48:43 EDT Subject: Hawkfest memories: The One Eyed Bishops, proper thanks and recollections Message-ID: OYE!! b qwyb From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Wed Jul 24 21:36:00 2002 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 02:36:00 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Summer Camp Message-ID: That has got to be the best weekend I've had in a long time. Everyone was so cool, no hassles, no problems. Thanks to everyone who organised it 'cos it was perfect. It was so nice chatting to people you'd never met, didn't know, and didn't care they didn't know you. Both my kids ages 7 & 9 were really impressed, they loved it, they're already planning for the next one. Did anyone get any pictures of the drumming session? My youngest, Harry, got a go on Richards drums and we aint got a picture of it. he was the one with a green t-shirt who got there first. We would love to get a picture of that. Oh, guess what he's asked for at Christmas! Thanks Geoff g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Thu Jul 25 08:23:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:23:00 +0100 Subject: HW: BBC Message-ID: Can't get Radio 6 here (I assume this is digital?) - anyone know whether the 1 hour BBC In Concert thing is different to 'Space Rock from London' in any way? (which I already have) ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jul 25 08:31:21 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:31:21 +0100 Subject: BBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Steve, It is indeed digital and it is the same recording. Colin -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Steve Litchfield Sent: 25 July 2002 13:23 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: BBC Can't get Radio 6 here (I assume this is digital?) - anyone know whether the 1 hour BBC In Concert thing is different to 'Space Rock from London' in any way? (which I already have) ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 25 08:46:50 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:46:50 -0400 Subject: HW: Free Festivals Message-ID: Last weekend's festival has got me looking around on the web for Stonehenge and Free Festival stuff. Check this site out http://tash.gn.apc.org/ It documents the lives of those involved in the travelling, free festival, free rave and protest cultures. There are alot of photos from the 80s and early 90s and it is interesting to look back on it all these years later. There are 1 or 2 of photos of Hawkwind in the 'live music' photography gallery. Does anyone know what year Hawkwind played at a big site where everyone gathered to walk to the stones on the Solstice? I think maybe it was Cholderton Woods. I'm sure it was either 87, 88 or 89. Anyone know for definite? Alastair. From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Thu Jul 25 09:00:33 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:00:33 -0400 Subject: BBC Message-ID: Yes, they are slightly different. If you have Collectors guide to HW the differences are listed. They are the same gig though. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:23 AM Subject: HW: BBC > Can't get Radio 6 here (I assume this is digital?) - anyone know whether > the 1 hour BBC In Concert thing is different to 'Space Rock from London' > in any way? (which I already have) > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 25 10:40:59 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:40:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Free Festivals In-Reply-To: Alastair Sumner's message of Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:46:50 -0400 Message-ID: Alastair Sumner writes: > Last weekend's festival has got me looking around on the web for Stonehenge > and Free Festival stuff. Check this site out http://tash.gn.apc.org/ It > documents the lives of those involved in the travelling, free festival, > free rave and protest cultures. There are alot of photos from the 80s and > early 90s and it is interesting to look back on it all these years later. > There are 1 or 2 of photos of Hawkwind in the 'live music' photography > gallery. Does anyone know what year Hawkwind played at a big site where > everyone gathered to walk to the stones on the Solstice? I think maybe it > was Cholderton Woods. I'm sure it was either 87, 88 or 89. Anyone know for > definite? IIRC it was the layby on the back road out of Ambridge in 1987. It's about a mile from the Stones. FoFP From kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 25 10:57:33 2002 From: kprocter at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Kirsten Procter) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:57:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Free Festivals In-Reply-To: <200207251440.PAA09270@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, M Holmes wrote: > Alastair Sumner writes: > > > Last weekend's festival has got me looking around on the web for Stonehenge > > and Free Festival stuff. Check this site out http://tash.gn.apc.org/ It > > documents the lives of those involved in the travelling, free festival, > > free rave and protest cultures. There are alot of photos from the 80s and > > early 90s and it is interesting to look back on it all these years later. > > There are 1 or 2 of photos of Hawkwind in the 'live music' photography > > gallery. Does anyone know what year Hawkwind played at a big site where > > everyone gathered to walk to the stones on the Solstice? I think maybe it > > was Cholderton Woods. I'm sure it was either 87, 88 or 89. Anyone know for > > definite? > > IIRC it was the layby on the back road out of Ambridge in 1987. It's > about a mile from the Stones. > No... you're getting confused. No *way* is Ambridge about a mile from the Stones, it's *much* further north than that. However, I think I'm right in saying that they played in a field just outside Ambridge the same year. HTH, Kirsten From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Thu Jul 25 10:56:44 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:56:44 +0100 Subject: Free Festivals Message-ID: The last Stonehenge one was 1984 and sadly the only one I attended. -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Sumner To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: 25/07/02 13:46 Subject: HW: Free Festivals Last weekend's festival has got me looking around on the web for Stonehenge and Free Festival stuff. Check this site out http://tash.gn.apc.org/ It documents the lives of those involved in the travelling, free festival, free rave and protest cultures. There are alot of photos from the 80s and early 90s and it is interesting to look back on it all these years later. There are 1 or 2 of photos of Hawkwind in the 'live music' photography gallery. Does anyone know what year Hawkwind played at a big site where everyone gathered to walk to the stones on the Solstice? I think maybe it was Cholderton Woods. I'm sure it was either 87, 88 or 89. Anyone know for definite? Alastair. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jul 25 11:49:30 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:49:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Free Festivals Message-ID: Ambridge???? Were Phil & Jill there? ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: Re: HW: Free Festivals > Alastair Sumner writes: > > > Last weekend's festival has got me looking around on the web for Stonehenge > > and Free Festival stuff. Check this site out http://tash.gn.apc.org/ It > > documents the lives of those involved in the travelling, free festival, > > free rave and protest cultures. There are alot of photos from the 80s and > > early 90s and it is interesting to look back on it all these years later. > > There are 1 or 2 of photos of Hawkwind in the 'live music' photography > > gallery. Does anyone know what year Hawkwind played at a big site where > > everyone gathered to walk to the stones on the Solstice? I think maybe it > > was Cholderton Woods. I'm sure it was either 87, 88 or 89. Anyone know for > > definite? > > IIRC it was the layby on the back road out of Ambridge in 1987. It's > about a mile from the Stones. > > > FoFP > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 25 11:59:47 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:59:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Free Festivals In-Reply-To: Kirsten Procter's message of Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:57:33 +0100 Message-ID: Kirsten Procter writes: > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, M Holmes wrote: > > > Alastair Sumner writes: > > > > > Last weekend's festival has got me looking around on the web for Stonehenge > > > and Free Festival stuff. Check this site out http://tash.gn.apc.org/ It > > > documents the lives of those involved in the travelling, free festival, > > > free rave and protest cultures. There are alot of photos from the 80s and > > > early 90s and it is interesting to look back on it all these years later. > > > There are 1 or 2 of photos of Hawkwind in the 'live music' photography > > > gallery. Does anyone know what year Hawkwind played at a big site where > > > everyone gathered to walk to the stones on the Solstice? I think maybe it > > > was Cholderton Woods. I'm sure it was either 87, 88 or 89. Anyone know for > > > definite? > > > > IIRC it was the layby on the back road out of Ambridge in 1987. It's > > about a mile from the Stones. > > > No... you're getting confused. You're correct of course, I meant Amesbury. FoFP From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Thu Jul 25 10:08:06 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:08:06 -0300 Subject: HW: One Eyed Bishops Setlist from Hawkfestival 7/20 Message-ID: Hello everyone. Yesterday I wrote a big long list of thank you notes etc, and posted them here, but neglected to put the HW before my message. If you are filtering out non-specific messages and did not see the post, just go to the archives and search under 'Hawfest memories'. If someone has a way to repost it, it would be cool, because I want everyone mentioned to see it. I tried lifting my own text off my e-mail but could not. Anyway, this post is really just about our setlist at the festival. Peace, Mike setlist:The OEBs: Hawfestival, Devon, England, 7/20/02 Around & Around ( Chuck Berry) Smokestack Lightning ( Chester Burnett) Who do You Love? ( Ellas Mcdaniel) > Mona ( Ellas McDaniel) Hymie the Winey ( Mike Burro) Washboard Blues ( Mike Burro) Cumberland Gap ( traditional) Hurry On Sundown ( Dave Brock) From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 25 12:24:38 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:24:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Free Festivals Message-ID: On the solstice in 87, 88 or 89 I remember hearing that Hawkwind were playing on our site and I think that some of my friends stayed behind to watch. I decided to go on the organised walk to the stones because I knew there were alot of police about and I thought that I might not get there otherwise. That was a tough decision. I remember walking passed Dave Brock on the site so I know that he was there. They may have played nearby but I always thought they had played on the site. Alastair. On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:59:47 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Kirsten Procter writes: > >> On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, M Holmes wrote: >> >> > Alastair Sumner writes: >> > >> > > Last weekend's festival has got me looking around on the web for Stonehenge >> > > and Free Festival stuff. Check this site out http://tash.gn.apc.org/ It >> > > documents the lives of those involved in the travelling, free festival, >> > > free rave and protest cultures. There are alot of photos from the 80s and >> > > early 90s and it is interesting to look back on it all these years later. >> > > There are 1 or 2 of photos of Hawkwind in the 'live music' photography >> > > gallery. Does anyone know what year Hawkwind played at a big site where >> > > everyone gathered to walk to the stones on the Solstice? I think maybe it >> > > was Cholderton Woods. I'm sure it was either 87, 88 or 89. Anyone know for >> > > definite? >> > >> > IIRC it was the layby on the back road out of Ambridge in 1987. It's >> > about a mile from the Stones. >> > >> No... you're getting confused. > >You're correct of course, I meant Amesbury. > >FoFP From hw at CY-B.ORG Thu Jul 25 14:02:19 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:02:19 -0400 Subject: HW: War Of The Worlds Message-ID: ++ GREETINGS STAR WARRIORS NEW MISSION ORDERS: Visit Mission Control, and absorb full details of the WOTW event on EarthDate 31st August 2002 . . . . . www.hawkwind.org.uk www.hawkwind.com www.hawkwind.biz www.hawkwind.info ++MISSION ORDERS END + + + From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 25 20:16:38 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:16:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: the insane King is driving me insane...! Message-ID: ...I will save the Queen! hellbent for leather, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 25 20:28:19 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:28:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! Message-ID: That little rat punk Rick Wakeman ripped me off on speed again... prick! Break out that crazy fucking Yes 7" again... go, archangel, go, go, go!!! Scream Dracula, scrrreeeeeaaaaaaammm!!! SNACK!!! AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEAAAAUUURRRRRGGHH!!! ...BLOOD!!! hellbent for leather, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Thu Jul 25 20:56:07 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:56:07 +0100 Subject: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! Message-ID: That little rat punk Rick Wakeman ripped me off on speed again... prick! Break out that crazy fucking Yes 7" again... go, archangel, go, go, go!!! Scream Dracula, scrrreeeeeaaaaaaammm!!! SNACK!!! AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEAAAAUUURRRRRGGHH!!! ...BLOOD!!! I AM MOTHERFUCKING JESUUUUUUUUS!!! hellbent for leather, -Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ ObSpeed: marmelade, makka, kransekaker ObSpeedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 26 01:03:39 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:03:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Farflung Message-ID: Hi... Quick note... Meteor City is now carrying Farflung's Nine Pin Body go to...http://www.stonerrock.com That's all...Grakkl (FAA) P.S. It's a great CD. From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Fri Jul 26 07:38:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:38:00 +0100 Subject: HW: BBC Message-ID: >>Yes, they are slightly different. If you have Collectors guide to HW the differences are listed. They are the same gig though. Cheers STEPHE Err.. I don't have this guide - is there a URL I can see, or can you summarise the differences? All academic, since I'm not going to get much quality over a dial-up web link! ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 26 08:28:53 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:28:53 -0400 Subject: HW: Free Festivals Message-ID: 1987 would make sense because the police seemed a little reluctant to lay right in after the roasting they got after the battle of the beanfield. So in 87 you could get almost to the stones but they were surrounded by riot police. But 88 must have been the year when they really enforced the 4 mile exclusion zone and killed off the Stonehenge festival. Are there any travellers left in the UK now? I know that after the criminal justice bill was introduced many went to mainland Europe and beyond. Alastair. On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:40:59 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Alastair Sumner writes: > >> Last weekend's festival has got me looking around on the web for Stonehenge >> and Free Festival stuff. Check this site out http://tash.gn.apc.org/ It >> documents the lives of those involved in the travelling, free festival, >> free rave and protest cultures. There are alot of photos from the 80s and >> early 90s and it is interesting to look back on it all these years later. >> There are 1 or 2 of photos of Hawkwind in the 'live music' photography >> gallery. Does anyone know what year Hawkwind played at a big site where >> everyone gathered to walk to the stones on the Solstice? I think maybe it >> was Cholderton Woods. I'm sure it was either 87, 88 or 89. Anyone know for >> definite? > >IIRC it was the layby on the back road out of Ambridge in 1987. It's >about a mile from the Stones. > > >FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 26 09:52:53 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:52:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Free Festivals In-Reply-To: Alastair Sumner's message of Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:28:53 -0400 Message-ID: Alastair Sumner writes: > 1987 would make sense because the police seemed a little reluctant to lay > right in after the roasting they got after the battle of the beanfield. So > in 87 you could get almost to the stones but they were surrounded by riot > police. Yeah. I had fun that year. I may have archived my report of it. Will post if I can find it. Note though that I was a kid then (hell, I had all y own hair) and my writing style wasn't what you'd call developed. > But 88 must have been the year when they really enforced the 4 mile > exclusion zone and killed off the Stonehenge festival. Yep. That rings a bell. I started going to Glastonbury regularly at that point. > Are there any travellers left in the UK now? I know that after the criminal > justice bill was introduced many went to mainland Europe and beyond. Some. In fact on my travels last week I stopped behind the Glasters site to see it without all the stuff. There's a colony of folks living in kinda benders made out of stuff they found on skips. There are 20 adults, several kids. They've bought the land, dug a well, put in solar power and are growing a lot of vegetables and berries. They were very friendly and invited us into their homes to have a look around. Most have day jobs so they're not completely independent or anything. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 26 09:56:04 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:56:04 +0100 Subject: Peace and Shove Message-ID: [From the Archives: 1987] PEACE AND SHOVE by "A Friend of Fernando Poo" On arrival at Amesbury we discovered a large number of hippies sitting around on various grassy areas in the village. In the bar I talked to a local fire officer who was on emergency call that night, he reckoned that the hippies were serious about getting to Stonehenge and that there would be trouble. We were informed that English Heritage had distributed a thousand tickets for people to enter Stonehenge at dawn and watch the Druids Ceremony. A further five hundred tickets had been offered to the hippies' leaders and duly refused (Stonehenge was ceded to the British People in perpetuity, provided free access was maintained and so the hippies' position was that English Heritage were breaking the Law!). The Fire Officer suggested that we visit the local nick and ask for some of the tickets. We tried and were advised that only English Heritage could disburse tickets and that there would be trouble "up there" and our best policy would be "to stay well away". Decided to walk up to the barriers and talk to the Police there. Couple of miles walk uphill, funny scene of lots of hippies and their horses camped on the main roundabout. We were told that the main part of the Peace Convoy and visitors were camped in Cholderton Woods a couple of miles away. The Police at the roadblock on the A303 were friendly but advised us that there were no Trust people there yet and to try later. Back to the pub and tales from the Landlord of bygone days when they had beer picnics in the Stones. Much complaint about Police roadblocks and helicopters making noise all night. Seems that stopping the Rock Festival had mainly resulted in the hippies hanging around town and frightening off the tourists. Resentment at having to pay for a large Police operation every year. About 1am and off up the hill, seemed a good plan to take the back road and this worked for a while, mostly press and tourists, the hippies had massed at the roundabout and were walking up the main road spotlighted by the helicopters. We reached the top of the back road and discovered another small encampment of hippies' buses and vans. The Police herded us into the main hippy group on the main road. A few thousand hippies had concentrated there by this time. Tried to persuade the press guys to help us get in, no deal. The Police let the group march up through the main roadblock onto the A303 and started large numbers of Police walking in single file down the hill behind us. It looked very much like a trap, by the time we reached the road by the Heel Stone, the whole group of around four thousand hippies and tourists had barbed wire on both sides and a row three deep of Policemen between us and the Stones as well as in front and behind. There was by then a bunch of punks fairly drunk, by the Heel Stone taunting the Police, it occured to me that the hippies hadn't brought music equipment so I guessed they thought there might be trouble too. Decided that I'd rather be inside the Stones than in the middle of a battle so over the barbed wire and into the field next to the Police compound. Made it a fair way into it before a helicopter made a pass and managed to reach the wire by the Police compound, the sound of dogs and flashing of torches provided the impetus to get over the barbed wire, got cut though. Masses of Police vans with Police in them, I headed for the Druid's bus. They were friendly and said I could try to follow them through the compound and over the road later. I talked to a few and they thought it would be better just to let everyone in. Five of us had made it to this point and we managed to get over the road with the Druids, no problem. Unfortunately I got nabbed and asked to produce a ticket. The Welsh cop that marched me back to the compound was a reasonable guy and I managed to persuade him to help find a Heritage guy to see if we could be permitted to stay. He left us with the Police Press Officer who kept asking difficult questions as to how we were in there in the first place. I answered several questions that he didn't ask, instead. A Heritage chap appeared with the Welsh cop and pronounced that we looked harmless so we might as well stay. I thanked the cop profusely for his help. We were in. Things had started happening at the Heel Stone. (I found out later that the loonies had charged the Police and some hippies had inserted themselves between the groups to no avail). The fence got trampled down and a couple of hundred Riot Police with shields and truncheons appeared from the compound. Three people managed to climb up on the Heel Stone and somebody passed a pipe which they theatrically passed round much to the enjoyment of the press. The Druids Ceremony was mainly concerned with Peace and Enlightenment and made a surreal contrast to the fighting yards away, and was constantly drowned out by the helicopters making low passes and passing orders to the hippies by megaphone. The Druids looked defnitely annoyed at all this and I was sure they put a few digs about freedom for ALL the People. The RP had driven everyone back down the road towards the roundabout and I saw cavalry rounding up some who had jumped the fence into the fields. The Ceremony over we headed down the hill. About fifty Police vans and a line of RP at the bottom. Told them we were going to Amesbury and they let us through, dumb to go through though, they had another line of them at the other side of the roundabout. The Officer in charge was taking great delight in telling us, the ticket holders, and the press that the road was closed. We were in with the hippies again and the two lines herded us to the roundabout which they ordered cleared. Much starting of buses and hitching of horses to wagons and they started moving everyone out to Cholderton. I realised that the RP were not to be reasoned with and had a hunt around. Found some local cops who let us by a path to Amedsbury. Reached the Motel for about two hours sleep. Met some of the press at breakfast and got updated on what I'd missed. The RP had walked everyone out to Cholderton and then cleared the woods there. We cycled out at around 10.30am and headed for Frome Station. Came across a RP roadblock. Two local cops said bikes were OK. Unfortunately the same press officer we'd come across earlier was there and he said we'd have to go the long way round. Took five hours instead of two but I did get to see Longleat. I had great fun on the night. I reckon that the Police were prepared for trouble and ensured that there was some by letting people up to the Stones and then stopping them. They were fairly restrained though and all the local cops I met were reasonable. The RP are probably trained to be inflexible. The locals want a Festival Site to keep the hippies out of town. The Druids would rather let them in than put up with the same carry on again, and a mass Police action annoys the locals as much as the hippies do. The only sensible solution is to set aside a MOD field within ten miles of Stonehenge and let anyone who walks it on the Solstice into the Stones. The fellow who owns the Glastonbury CND site has offered to buy a field from the MOD and run a festival. It's probably too much to hope for that common sense will previl over Politics next year, but I suspect that cost will eventually become a factor in the Police operation whereas the hippies will pay their own costs and certainly won't give up. There may also be a point about Freedom of Worship here, though I suppose these days Market Forces may be the correct Deity to invoke. Afterthought: This all reminded me of a Quatermass film where the standing stones were guarded by riot police. Lots of hippies try to get to them shouting "To The Planet". A beam comes down and they all disappear. Quatermass discovers that the power spots the ancients built the stones to mark are there to warn future generations that this is where the young humans will be called at harvesting time. The aliens are really one-horned one-eyed purple people eaters! From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 26 11:02:09 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:02:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Free Festivals Message-ID: Ok, I've just been doing a bit more research when I should be working and I've found some very interesing stuff. This page mentions the festival site that formed at Cholderton Woods where there were about 2000 people. The year is 1988 so I think this is probably the first year I went. http://www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk/h880808.htm I think this is where I was and the funny thing was that everyone I knew from my home town, about 20 people, all converged from different places onto the same site. This page documents the trouble that flared up around the hele stone. http://www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk/h880914.htm I was quite a few rows back in the crowd facing the hele stone and I remember the anarchist flag being hoisted up and the guys on top of the stone. Then I remember objects being hurled at the police and the police charges into the crowd. You couldn't really see what was happening, just the person in front of you turn around, so you turned around to and ran for fear of being stampeded. Now this is the most interesting bit for me. 'Meanwhile the charge continued in the field to the North where I saw a group of youths throwing stones at the police as they retreated. This was the only retaliation I witnessed during the advance. As it seemed the advance was going to persevere I and some others removed ourselves down the back road to Amesbury. I had begun to be concerned about my property at Cholderton and wished to return there before the police.' If that was the only group of youths throwing stones then he is referring to the crowd of people I was amongst during the dispersal of the crowd. Although I didn't actually throw anything, I did observe it including a laughable attempt to stampede a herd of apathetic grass chewing milk cows into the police lines. The violence was fairly minimal though. I also remember looking over to the road and seeing the tail end of a confrontation there, police shoving people back. I think this is probably what is being descibed here. I remember the screaming and shouting caught my attention. 'When we had been driven past the fork of the road at Stonehenge Bottom there was a pause. We were now on the A303 towards Amesbury and it was before dawn but getting light, perhaps about 4.20AM. It seemed to me incredible, because it was not justified by anything the crowd were doing, but a line of attack was now forming across the dual carriageway to continue the charge. This was sudden and forceful and on (I think) three occasions the crowd on the road began to run. This was frightening as they threatened to knock us down or drive everyone into a stampede. I spent some effort shouting "Don't run! Walk! Move slowly! Don't panic!" as I saw the situation as potentially dangerous.' This description is so exact that I am sure it was 1988 when I first went. The following year there were much less people and even more police. I think very few people even got within a mile of the stones. Alastair. On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:52:53 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Alastair Sumner writes: > >> 1987 would make sense because the police seemed a little reluctant to lay >> right in after the roasting they got after the battle of the beanfield. So >> in 87 you could get almost to the stones but they were surrounded by riot >> police. > >Yeah. I had fun that year. I may have archived my report of it. Will >post if I can find it. Note though that I was a kid then (hell, I had >all y own hair) and my writing style wasn't what you'd call developed. > >> But 88 must have been the year when they really enforced the 4 mile >> exclusion zone and killed off the Stonehenge festival. > >Yep. That rings a bell. I started going to Glastonbury regularly at that >point. > >> Are there any travellers left in the UK now? I know that after the criminal >> justice bill was introduced many went to mainland Europe and beyond. > >Some. In fact on my travels last week I stopped behind the Glasters site >to see it without all the stuff. There's a colony of folks living in >kinda benders made out of stuff they found on skips. There are 20 >adults, several kids. They've bought the land, dug a well, put in solar >power and are growing a lot of vegetables and berries. They were very >friendly and invited us into their homes to have a look around. Most >have day jobs so they're not completely independent or anything. > >FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 26 11:22:41 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:22:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Free Festivals In-Reply-To: Alastair Sumner's message of Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:02:09 -0400 Message-ID: Alastair Sumner writes: > Ok, I've just been doing a bit more research when I should be working and > I've found some very interesing stuff. This page mentions the festival site > that formed at Cholderton Woods where there were about 2000 people. The > year is 1988 so I think this is probably the first year I went. > > http://www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk/h880808.htm > I was quite a few rows back in the crowd facing the hele stone and I > remember the anarchist flag being hoisted up and the guys on top of the > stone. Then I remember objects being hurled at the police and the police > charges into the crowd. You couldn't really see what was happening, just > the person in front of you turn around, so you turned around to and ran for > fear of being stampeded. > > Now this is the most interesting bit for me. > > 'Meanwhile the charge continued in the field to the North where I saw a > group of youths throwing stones at the police as they retreated. This was > the only retaliation I witnessed during the advance. As it seemed the > advance was going to persevere I and some others removed ourselves down the > back road to Amesbury. I had begun to be concerned about my property at > Cholderton and wished to return there before the police.' > > If that was the only group of youths throwing stones then he is referring > to the crowd of people I was amongst during the dispersal of the crowd. > Although I didn't actually throw anything, I did observe it including a > laughable attempt to stampede a herd of apathetic grass chewing milk cows > into the police lines. The violence was fairly minimal though. > > I also remember looking over to the road and seeing the tail end of a > confrontation there, police shoving people back. I think this is probably > what is being descibed here. I remember the screaming and shouting caught > my attention. > > 'When we had been driven past the fork of the road at Stonehenge Bottom > there was a pause. We were now on the A303 towards Amesbury and it was > before dawn but getting light, perhaps about 4.20AM. It seemed to me > incredible, because it was not justified by anything the crowd were doing, > but a line of attack was now forming across the dual carriageway to > continue the charge. This was sudden and forceful and on (I think) three > occasions the crowd on the road began to run. This was frightening as they > threatened to knock us down or drive everyone into a stampede. I spent some > effort shouting "Don't run! Walk! Move slowly! Don't panic!" as I saw the > situation as potentially dangerous.' > > This description is so exact that I am sure it was 1988 when I first went. > The following year there were much less people and even more police. I > think very few people even got within a mile of the stones. Yes, I think you're right. My "peace and Shove" piece must describe the same thing you've uncovered from 1988. That fits in with me missing a year at Glastonbury if I was at Glasters in 1987 and 1989. Come to think about it, when we finally escaped through Police lines to Amesbury, I'm sure the others were all talking about "a party in the woods" which I guess accurately describes the Cholderton one. Please amend my previous descriptions by one year. FoFP From alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jul 26 12:18:29 2002 From: alastair_sumner at HOTMAIL.COM (Alastair Sumner) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:18:29 -0400 Subject: HW: Free Festivals Message-ID: I remember hearing that there were numerous sites around the surrounding area and that ours was the biggest. There was some attempt at coordination using guys on motorbikes. Mobile phones would have come in very handy then. Once the walk to the stones began there were people coming from all over the place. I don't think there was much of a party after we got back from the stones, I think we got kicked off the site then. But up until the solstice it was exciting to be there. >Yes, I think you're right. My "peace and Shove" piece must describe >the same thing you've uncovered from 1988. That fits in with me missing a year at Glastonbury if I was at >Glasters in 1987 and 1989. Come to think about it, when we finally >escaped through Police lines to Amesbury, I'm sure the others were all >talking about "a party in the woods" which I guess accurately describes >the Cholderton one. > >Please amend my previous descriptions by one year. > >FoFP From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Jul 26 15:33:47 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:33:47 -0400 Subject: HW: Attention Keith Barton Message-ID: Apologies for using the list for a personal enquiry but... Keith, I've lost your email address and as I don't want to send any pix (Spacehead)to the other K barton again (Canterbury!), could you let me know your current email address? Cheers Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Fri Jul 26 08:09:02 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:09:02 -0400 Subject: BBC Message-ID: HI, It says Countdown is longer on Space Rock and Brainstorm is longer on BBC. If I remember right Brainstorm cuts off on Space Rock. Also says they are both different mixes. In my opinion both are great quality and worth having. Not sure of any URL for this info. Maybe someone else knows of one. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Litchfield" To: Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 7:38 AM Subject: HW: BBC > >>Yes, they are slightly different. If you have Collectors guide to HW the > differences are listed. They are the same gig though. Cheers STEPHE > > Err.. I don't have this guide - is there a URL I can see, or can you > summarise the differences? > > All academic, since I'm not going to get much quality over a dial-up web > link! > ____________________________________________________________________ > Steve Litchfield > Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Fri Jul 26 21:36:58 2002 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:36:58 EDT Subject: BBC Message-ID: I must say that I've always felt that the mix on Space Rock From London is far crisper and cleaner than that on the official BBC CD. But all of STEPHE's comments below are correct. Yours, Eli In a message dated 7/26/02 8:22:38 PM, lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET writes: << HI, It says Countdown is longer on Space Rock and Brainstorm is longer on BBC. If I remember right Brainstorm cuts off on Space Rock. Also says they are both different mixes. In my opinion both are great quality and worth having. Not sure of any URL for this info. Maybe someone else knows of one. Cheers STEPHE >> From novadrive at COX.NET Fri Jul 26 22:30:04 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:30:04 -0700 Subject: HW:Summer Camp In-Reply-To: <001301c231d4$08b8ed00$2c24fd3e@yourpnqspyopyu> Message-ID: Yes! Bedouin are better every time I hear them...this time was fantastic. Also, Spacehead was better than I've ever heard them as well; could it be in some part due to their session synth players (by the names of Dave, Tim and Keith)? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Nick Lee > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:04 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW:Summer Camp > > > Ali did a set with Bedouin on Friday, Simon guested with Astralasia on > Saturday Tim played a set on Sunday and Huw performed a fairly impromptu > set with Dibs on bass and Martin Griffin and his son sharing the drumming > duties. All good sets, one of the best I've seen from bedouin for a while > and there was some great jamming in Huw's set. > > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alisa" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: HW:Summer Camp > > > > Hi, > > > > how other bands played, was there solo sets by Richard and > acoustic one by > > Dave? > > > > Alisa From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Jul 26 05:01:16 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:01:16 +0100 Subject: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! Message-ID: Is there really any need for this? Come back Mike Coleman, all is forgiven. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" To: Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:56 AM Subject: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! > That little rat punk Rick Wakeman ripped me off on > speed again... prick! Break out that crazy fucking Yes > 7" again... go, archangel, go, go, go!!! Scream > Dracula, scrrreeeeeaaaaaaammm!!! SNACK!!! > AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEAAAAUUURRRRRGGHH!!! > ...BLOOD!!! > > I AM MOTHERFUCKING JESUUUUUUUUS!!! > > hellbent for leather, > -Charlie Yuga > http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ > > ObSpeed: marmelade, makka, kransekaker > ObSpeedfreak Front 242: take a walk > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sat Jul 27 05:41:26 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 05:41:26 EDT Subject: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! Message-ID: You need either a rehab centre or a psychiatrist. If you really are Jesus then use your powers to fund an Australian Hawkwind tour - 2 months tour should suffice. and stop cursing or your halo will dissolve. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:56 AM > Subject: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! > > > > That little rat punk Rick Wakeman ripped me off on > > speed again... prick! Break out that crazy fucking Yes > > 7" again... go, archangel, go, go, go!!! Scream > > Dracula, scrrreeeeeaaaaaaammm!!! SNACK!!! > > AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEAAAAUUURRRRRGGHH!!! > > ...BLOOD!!! > > > > I AM MOTHERFUCKING JESUUUUUUUUS!!! From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sat Jul 27 09:40:37 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:40:37 +1000 Subject: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! Message-ID: He can't be Jesus. The man is obviously psychotic and suffering from drug induced delusions of being Godlike. Another reason he can't be Jesus is because I am Jesus. I am God. With a thought I can banish the human race from existence in time and space. I stride this laughable little lump of rock like the supranatural colossus that I am. The wind of time is blowing through me and its all moving relative to me. You are a figment of my mind. In a world that I 've designed.....hang on.....this isn't the Stark Raving Fucking Bloody Mad Foaming At The Mouth Complete Nutter Totally Lost It Through Massive Amounts Of Horrible Drugs Or Born That Way Barking Mad list. Oooops........sorry about that folks.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: Re: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! > You need either a rehab centre or a psychiatrist. > > If you really are Jesus then use your powers to fund an Australian Hawkwind tour - 2 months tour should suffice. > and stop cursing or your halo will dissolve. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Amphetamine Embalmer" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:56 AM > > Subject: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! > > > > > > > That little rat punk Rick Wakeman ripped me off on > > > speed again... prick! Break out that crazy fucking Yes > > > 7" again... go, archangel, go, go, go!!! Scream > > > Dracula, scrrreeeeeaaaaaaammm!!! SNACK!!! > > > AAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEAAAAUUURRRRRGGHH!!! > > > ...BLOOD!!! > > > > > > I AM MOTHERFUCKING JESUUUUUUUUS!!! From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sat Jul 27 12:41:18 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:41:18 +0100 Subject: BBC Message-ID: One vital difference - the BBC CD is mono - the Space Rock fromLondon CD is stereo - and my tape from a Canadian Radio rebroadcast is better than both of them - wished I could have been in to hear it last bite tho. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Friedman" To: Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 2:36 AM Subject: Re: BBC > I must say that I've always felt that the mix on Space Rock From London is > far crisper and cleaner than that on the official BBC CD. But all of > STEPHE's comments below are correct. Yours, Eli > In a message dated 7/26/02 8:22:38 PM, lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET writes: > > << HI, It says Countdown is longer on Space Rock and Brainstorm is longer on > > BBC. If I remember right Brainstorm cuts off on Space Rock. Also says they > > are both different mixes. In my opinion both are great quality and worth > > having. Not sure of any URL for this info. Maybe someone else knows of one. > > Cheers STEPHE >> From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jul 28 04:39:40 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:39:40 +0100 Subject: Fw: [Hawkwind] Londons Underground? Message-ID: Forwarded this from t'other list as I'm not sure if Dave/Kris are subscribed to that, thought they might be able to shed some light on the matter... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Young" To: Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: [Hawkwind] Londons Underground? > What's this on ebay, then? It's muzak, is it? Elevator music? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=894634538 > > Is this really Dave Brock, or is this guy just trying to sell a record? > > Anybody know any more about this? I hate to bid on something so remote... > > Bryan > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Hope this info is useful :-) Kris From Wilfried at MUENSTER.DE Sun Jul 28 07:53:32 2002 From: Wilfried at MUENSTER.DE (Wilfried Sch=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=FCsler?=) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 07:53:32 -0400 Subject: HW: London Underground on e-bay Message-ID: Kris, this helps very much. Thanks for your prompt information! Wilfried From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sun Jul 28 13:04:48 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 13:04:48 -0400 Subject: Aural Innovations: July 2002 issue online NOW!!! Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com The July 2002 issue of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is now online. Aural Innovations covers SpaceRock, Psychedelia, Electronic music, plus the more eclectic forms of Jazz and Progressive rock. See the index of this issue's contents below. NOTE: This has been a HECTIC summer so there are many bands who are probably expecting reviews this issue that we just couldn't get to. Sorry but we really need your patience and understanding. THANKS! The July 2002 issue of Aural Innovations includes: Damo Suzuki Cul de Sac Heavy Liquid Phil Jones: Didgeridoo Medicine Man Sunscapes: Sifting Through The Ozric Tentacles Catalogue Tales Of The ACTION MAN: Blue Oyster Cult in the Ashcroft Jungle Sitting On The Porch This Morning (A Musician Muses) Live Recordings and Shows Recent Releases from Alien Planetscapes Releases from Sysyphus Records Releases from CosmicEcho Recent Releases from Meteor City Recent Releases from Strange Attractors Recent Releases from Haltapes Releases from Spaced Out Sounds Releases from SpaceWave Recent Releases from Hi-Note Music Releases from Family Vineyard Recent Releases from Szum Music Releases from Horchata Releases from Sublime And a Gosh awful lots of reviews!!! You can go directly to the new issue at: http://aural-innovations.com/issues/issue20/issue20.html Don't forget to check out Aural Innovations Radio for the best sounds on the planet and the Aural Innovations CD mail order for some of the best space rock and psychedelia that you've never heard. All the above can be found by setting your vessel's controls for http://Aural-Innovations.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Jul 28 16:39:22 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 16:39:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Levy for Prez... Message-ID: Hi... The made-for-cable movie "Harrison Bergeron" based on the Kurt Vonnegut short story was played on TV today here in Columbus, Ohio. In other news, the Disney movie "The Country Bears" is out just now. Coincidence? You be the judge. Grakkl (FAA), w/ thinking cap on. P.S. Too bad he's Canadian. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 28 17:00:12 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:00:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Fw: Question for seller -- Item #894634538 was HW: London Underground on e-bay Message-ID: Just out of curiousity I emailed the seller about this and received the following response. Clearly the seller is only going by information he located elsewhere - perhaps from the Tapestry of Delights web page? Certainly the ebay description stresses the "allegedly" aspect in an appropriately cautious way. Caveat emptor. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 5:24 PM Subject: Question for seller -- Item #894634538 Hello David of London. Dave Brock does not know anything about this item and has never heard of L. Paul- Phillips. Where did you get your information from? Does the music sound anything like Hawkwind in 1972? thanks -------------------- Hi, Well I took care in my description to say it's *allegedly* by him. There's a reference to the LP on the following website: http://www.borderlinebooks.com/uk6070s/tapestry.html?http://www.borderli nebooks.com/uk6070s/l5z.html (wait for the full page to load, then click on the 'London Underground' link or scroll down the page) Unsubstantiated of course. However it was not unheard of for contracted rock musicians to adopt pseudonyms for library work at that time (eg The Pretty Things and the 'Electric Banana' series on De Wolfe). The following is from my auction description on eBay: "The LP consists of twelve instrumental tracks in a funky psych-rock style, with lashings of prog. The playing and arrangements are solid - although the LP was presumably dashed off for cash, the tracks stand up very well. Instrumentation is guitars/bass/drums/Hammond organ. The LP title is punning off the London underground rock scene of the time, as well as the 'London Underground' subway train system. A 'straphanger', in case anyone's interested, was a standing passenger who would steady him/herself while the train was in motion by holding on to one of a series of flexible strap handles, fixed to the ceiling of the train. The place names are mostly stations on the Central Line (I think Hawkwind were based in Notting Hill so the Central is the line they would have taken into the West End of London)." As to whether it sounds like Hawkwind, I couldn't say - about the only track by Hawkwind I know is 'Silver Machine'. Anyway the rumour (such as it is) is that Dave Brock was involved, not the whole of Hawkwind. It is definitely underground rock though. One thing I would say is that 'L. Paul-Phillips' probably *is* a pseudonym. I've seen a lot of library music LPs and you see the same names cropping up repeatedly. I've only seen 'L. Paul-Phillips' on this LP and 'London's Underground vol.2', on which the credits are shared with 'R. Singer'. David From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Jul 28 17:49:36 2002 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (Steve Johnson) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 17:49:36 EDT Subject: HW: War Of The Worlds Message-ID: Look out for the grey haired bugger wearing an Alice Cooper shirt, and a bloke who looks like Lemmy. See you there! Steve. Not got the lost TV clicker blues. From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Sun Jul 28 17:59:00 2002 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:59:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols In-Reply-To: <006701c23679$c57ad760$6ed3193e@jds> Message-ID: Don't think anyone's posted on this yet. Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. They opened the gig with Silver Machine! To say I was surprised is a *slight* understatement :) A question mark appeared above everyones heads as they thought en-masse, "Am I really hearing that????!". Classic. Still, Lydon has expressed his like of HW in the past, so maybe Jonesy and the rest of the boys are fans too :) Dave From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Sun Jul 28 20:08:02 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 20:08:02 -0400 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020728224700.01fd9bc0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: At 10:59 PM 7/28/02 +0100, you wrote: >Don't think anyone's posted on this yet. >Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. They opened the gig >with Silver Machine! To say I was surprised is a *slight* >understatement :) Wow. that is hep. would you mind posting a fuller review of the pistols show? I rmember reading about this show supposedly its supposed to "really" be the last one. From DreamWorker at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK Mon Jul 29 01:39:28 2002 From: DreamWorker at DREAMWORKER.CO.UK (DreamWorker) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:39:28 +0100 Subject: HW: War Of The Worlds Message-ID: I'll be there too, along with my 7 year old who is looking forward to the WotW show in a big way - I'll be wearing my HW Summer Camp t-shirt which won't distinguish me at all well from all the other folks who'll be wearing one but what the hell. Are there many people on this list going there with young kids? Might be good if we can camp close-ish together so that we can socialise after the show ends and babysit at the same time. Cheers. Rob. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Johnson To: Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 10:49 PM Subject: Re: HW: War Of The Worlds > Look out for the grey haired bugger wearing an Alice Cooper shirt, and a > bloke who looks like Lemmy. > > See you there! > > Steve. > > Not got the lost TV clicker blues. From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jul 29 04:20:15 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:20:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Strange Daze '97 and '98 t-shirts FS Message-ID: Strange Daze '97 and '98 t-shirts for sale. Used once, 25 bucks each. Both with alien logo and listed bands. -Christian email: superskrull666 at yahoo.co.uk http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ -- crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Mon Jul 29 08:31:00 2002 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:31:00 +0100 Subject: HW: to give away Message-ID: Anyone want an original Wierd cassette tape: Free Festivals ? First UK resident to email me wanting it gets it for free... 8-) ____________________________________________________________________ Steve Litchfield Simon King and Hawkwind, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/ From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jul 29 12:19:18 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:19:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Jimmy Buffet Message-ID: While browsing the DVD section at my local 7-11 one night a couple of months ago, I heard Jimmy Buffet for the first time. I stood there for a full 45 minutes to take it all in. The chinese guy who worked there who had put it on was busily toiling away at his work. Rather excellent I had to say. Lots of compilations abound, but I recommend "Songs You Know By Heart". -Chr. http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ ObSpeed: marmelade, makka, kransekaker ObSpeedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Mon Jul 29 13:12:02 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:12:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Adam Strider Message-ID: Wasn't he some kind of jew kid who got beaten up for ever being a Hawkwind deadhead and ran some kind of idiot kid fanzine. Is he still around - I heard he has some kind of problem with me. - Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ -- crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 29 14:13:42 2002 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (Steve Johnson) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:13:42 EDT Subject: HW: Sex Pistols Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/02 10:57:28 PM GMT Daylight Time, gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK writes: > Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. They opened the gig > with Silver Machine! To say I was surprised is a *slight* > understatement :) A question mark appeared above everyones heads as > they thought en-masse, "Am I really hearing that????!". Classic. > Still, Lydon has expressed his like of HW in the past, so maybe Jonesy and > the rest of the boys are fans too :) Did they play any Alice Cooper stuff? Lydon's a big Alice Cooper fan and his 'musical career' started with him miming to I'm Eighteen on a jukebox. Just wondering if he got any further with it. Steve. Steve. From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Mon Jul 29 14:38:03 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 13:38:03 -0500 Subject: HW summer camp Message-ID: Howdy all: had a great time at the HW summer camp although the temperatures were MUCH lower than I had anticipated and I spent most of each night shivering and trying to stay warm. It was especially nice running into folks i've traded or corresponded with (sometimes over a period of a decade or more) finally vis a vis. A big howdy to Captain Black, Arin, Rich, Wilfried, Jill and others I ran into... am I very much mistaken or did I not speak to the infamous mr. Coleman with whom I probably haven't spoken since those embryonic days of Delta Wave, the Rock Cave, Brian Perera etc? I think the cold partially froze my social interactions or I would have spent more time hanging out in general. Anyway, a great time was had... John Majka jmajka2 at comcast.net From StevePXR5 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 29 14:55:17 2002 From: StevePXR5 at AOL.COM (Steve Johnson) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:55:17 EDT Subject: Forthcoming tour... Message-ID: For the bands information: Preston's Guild Hall still exists. They used to play there every year, and then...nothing! What happened? Steve. From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Mon Jul 29 13:44:00 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 14:44:00 -0300 Subject: Adam Strider Message-ID: Adam did a nice layout for the Strange Daze 99 program. He is Jewish, but what has that got to do with anything? 'some kind of Jew' smacks a bit.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Amphetamine Embalmer Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:12 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Adam Strider Wasn't he some kind of jew kid who got beaten up for ever being a Hawkwind deadhead and ran some kind of idiot kid fanzine. Is he still around - I heard he has some kind of problem with me. - Charlie Yuga http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ -- crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Mon Jul 29 16:03:44 2002 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:03:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20020728200802.00698f18@pop.acmenet.net> Message-ID: At 20:08 28/07/02 -0400, you wrote: >At 10:59 PM 7/28/02 +0100, you wrote: > >Don't think anyone's posted on this yet. > >Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. They opened the gig > >with Silver Machine! To say I was surprised is a *slight* > >understatement :) > >Wow. that is hep. would you mind posting a fuller review of the pistols >show? I rmember reading about this show supposedly its supposed to >"really" be the last one. Aye, REALLY the last one... well until Sept 14th in California, with a far better bill (inc. the Damned... first gig together in a looong time!!!). The full setlist for the Pistols was: Silver Machine Holidays In The Sun I wanna be me No Feelings Substitute 17 Pretty Vacant No Lip Did You No Wrong New York Submission No Fun Satellite Stepping Stone Bodies Belsen Was A Gas Thru My Eyes Liar Problems EMI first encore My Way Anarchy 2d encore GSTQ The jury is still out on how good the gig was. I need to let it sink in a bit. They were a bit untogether at times, with Lydon forgetting words... but then again, they're not meant to be perfect. My main problem was just the size of the place... I'm used to gigs with 20 people, not 20,000! Makes you feel a bit detached from it all, and the sound was a bit ropey. It had to be done though... first band I ever got into etc etc All in all, they were worth seeing... just forget about the extortionate ticket price! July has been an amazing month for gigs... so many of my faves... Turbonegro in Norway, Dickies in London, Hawkwind in Devon, and the Pistols doing Silver Machine while Concorde passed overhead rounded it off in a very surreal kinda way!! But I descend into havering... All in all, Pistols were good... but "last" show? I don't think so!! Dave From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Mon Jul 29 16:21:15 2002 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:21:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020729134132.01b8d490@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: Found a (terrible quality) mp3 : http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/SilverMachine.mp3 From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Jul 29 16:33:04 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 16:33:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Adam Strider In-Reply-To: <20020729171202.81530.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com>; from superskrull666@YAHOO.CO.UK on Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 06:12:02PM +0100 Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 06:12:02PM +0100, Amphetamine Embalmer wrote: > Wasn't he some kind of jew kid [...] Kindly take this shit elsewhere. I don't want to see it, and I doubt others here want to either. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Jul 29 16:47:09 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:47:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols Message-ID: Really? Which chip shop do they work in these days? Cheers, Rich. > Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. From lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET Mon Jul 29 17:10:32 2002 From: lindas1 at ADELPHIA.NET (Stephe Lindas) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 17:10:32 -0400 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols Message-ID: That would great if it was better quality. Wish I could have seen it myself. Cheers STEPHE ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:21 PM Subject: Re: HW: Sex Pistols > Found a (terrible quality) mp3 > : http://www.no35.dial.pipex.com/SilverMachine.mp3 From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Jul 29 17:18:02 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:18:02 +1000 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols Message-ID: Steve Jones is actually an excellent player. I remember being 15 and I only knew of one person that liked them - me. Great lyrics great frontman too. A classic hard rock album. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:03 AM Subject: Re: HW: Sex Pistols > At 20:08 28/07/02 -0400, you wrote: > >At 10:59 PM 7/28/02 +0100, you wrote: > > >Don't think anyone's posted on this yet. > > >Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. They opened the gig > > >with Silver Machine! To say I was surprised is a *slight* > > >understatement :) > > > >Wow. that is hep. would you mind posting a fuller review of the pistols > >show? I rmember reading about this show supposedly its supposed to > >"really" be the last one. > > Aye, REALLY the last one... well until Sept 14th in California, with a far > better bill (inc. the Damned... first gig together in a looong time!!!). > The full setlist for the Pistols was: > > Silver Machine > Holidays In The Sun > I wanna be me > No Feelings > Substitute > 17 > Pretty Vacant > No Lip > Did You No Wrong > New York > Submission > No Fun > Satellite > Stepping Stone > Bodies > Belsen Was A Gas > Thru My Eyes > Liar > Problems > EMI > > first encore > My Way > Anarchy > > 2d encore > GSTQ > > > The jury is still out on how good the gig was. I need to let it sink in a > bit. They were a bit untogether at times, with Lydon forgetting words... > but then again, they're not meant to be perfect. My main problem was just > the size of the place... I'm used to gigs with 20 people, not > 20,000! Makes you feel a bit detached from it all, and the sound was a bit > ropey. It had to be done though... first band I ever got into etc > etc All in all, they were worth seeing... just forget about the > extortionate ticket price! > July has been an amazing month for gigs... so many of my faves... > Turbonegro in Norway, Dickies in London, Hawkwind in Devon, and the Pistols > doing Silver Machine while Concorde passed overhead rounded it off in a > very surreal kinda way!! But I descend into havering... All in all, > Pistols were good... but "last" show? I don't think so!! > > Dave From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Mon Jul 29 18:06:00 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:06:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Jimmy Buffet Message-ID: For the real feel,try `Live-feeding frenzy' all the popular songs and some great between song chatting tim 8>)... =?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?= wrote: > > While browsing the DVD section at my local 7-11 one > night a couple of months ago, I heard Jimmy Buffet for > the first time. I stood there for a full 45 minutes to > take it all in. The chinese guy who worked there who > had put it on was busily toiling away at his work. > Rather excellent I had to say. Lots of compilations > abound, but I recommend "Songs You Know By Heart". > > -Chr. > http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ > > ObSpeed: marmelade, makka, kransekaker > ObSpeedfreak Front 242: take a walk > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Jul 29 21:02:42 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 21:02:42 -0400 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols Message-ID: On Sun, 28 Jul 2002 22:59:00 +0100, gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote: >Don't think anyone's posted on this yet. >Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. They opened the gig >with Silver Machine! To say I was surprised is a *slight* >understatement :) WOW! Too eff-in' cool! > A question mark appeared above everyones heads as >they thought en-masse, "Am I really hearing that????!". Classic. >Still, Lydon has expressed his like of HW in the past, so maybe Jonesy and >the rest of the boys are fans too :) I always thought that Lydon was the only one with good taste in music (Can, Modern Lovers, etc.), while Cook & Jones were into more mainstream rock (Free, Faces, etc.) and Glen Matlock liked the Beatles (which is probably why he was able to write all those catchy tunes). Now, especially since we just had that "fantasy-covers" thread, how could Hawkwind best return the favor? My vote is for "Submission", done in the style of "Time We Left". -Doug jasret at mindspring.com P.S. Thanks for the MP3, although I'm not sure I've *ever* seen such a badly-clipping digital recording. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 29 22:01:50 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:01:50 EDT Subject: Good news for Australia Message-ID: A mini space rock do is being organised in Queensland. I've heard that the venue has been booked etc. Fingers crossed - Alien Dream may be doing a set! WiCkEd From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 29 22:12:17 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:12:17 EDT Subject: HW: Sex Pistols Message-ID: Well they are rude and crude and need their mouths washed out with a bar of whale blubber soap granny smiff In a message dated Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:13:17 AEDT, Steven Skane writes: > Steve Jones is actually an excellent player. I remember being 15 and I only > knew of one person that liked them - me. > Great lyrics great frontman too. A classic hard rock album. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:03 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Sex Pistols > > > > At 20:08 28/07/02 -0400, you wrote: > > >At 10:59 PM 7/28/02 +0100, you wrote: > > > >Don't think anyone's posted on this yet. > > > >Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. They opened the > gig > > > >with Silver Machine! To say I was surprised is a *slight* > > > >understatement :) > > > > > >Wow. that is hep. would you mind posting a fuller review of the pistols > > >show? I rmember reading about this show supposedly its supposed to > > >"really" be the last one. > > > > Aye, REALLY the last one... well until Sept 14th in California, with a far > > better bill (inc. the Damned... first gig together in a looong time!!!). > > The full setlist for the Pistols was: > > > > Silver Machine > > Holidays In The Sun > > I wanna be me > > No Feelings > > Substitute > > 17 > > Pretty Vacant > > No Lip > > Did You No Wrong > > New York > > Submission > > No Fun > > Satellite > > Stepping Stone > > Bodies > > Belsen Was A Gas > > Thru My Eyes > > Liar > > Problems > > EMI > > > > first encore > > My Way > > Anarchy > > > > 2d encore > > GSTQ > > > > > > The jury is still out on how good the gig was. I need to let it sink in a > > bit. They were a bit untogether at times, with Lydon forgetting words... > > but then again, they're not meant to be perfect. My main problem was just > > the size of the place... I'm used to gigs with 20 people, not > > 20,000! Makes you feel a bit detached from it all, and the sound was a > bit > > ropey. It had to be done though... first band I ever got into etc > > etc All in all, they were worth seeing... just forget about the > > extortionate ticket price! > > July has been an amazing month for gigs... so many of my faves... > > Turbonegro in Norway, Dickies in London, Hawkwind in Devon, and the > Pistols > > doing Silver Machine while Concorde passed overhead rounded it off in a > > very surreal kinda way!! But I descend into havering... All in all, > > Pistols were good... but "last" show? I don't think so!! > > > > Dave From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Jul 29 22:16:21 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:16:21 EDT Subject: HW: Adam Strider Message-ID: In a message dated Tue, 30 Jul 2002 04:53:02 AEDT, Amphetamine Embalmer writes: > Wasn't he some kind of jew kid who got beaten up for > ever being a Hawkwind deadhead and ran some kind of > idiot kid fanzine. Is he still around - I heard he has > some kind of problem with me. What exactly is "some kind of a jew kid?" Could be taken the wrong way... From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jul 29 22:34:53 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:34:53 EDT Subject: HW: Adam Strider Message-ID: In a message dated 7/29/02 7:17:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM writes: > What exactly is "some kind of a jew kid?" > Could be taken the wrong way... > that would be me... :) Charles Hugh Rosenberg From youless at LVCM.COM Mon Jul 29 23:47:59 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:47:59 -0400 Subject: HW: win a free double CD Message-ID: Hi Cherry Red Records sent me a free copy of the newly reissued Zones / This Is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic double CD. I already have those on CD, so I have decided to use the free promo to garner some shameless self-publicity for my website, "Starfarer's Hawkwind Page". To win the CD, go to the site at http://www.starfarer.net and click on the red link entitled "Zones / Do Not Panic Review" on the opening page. This will take you to the page wherein I review the CD. Details of the competition are at the bottom of that page. Good luck Steve From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Jul 30 06:06:30 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:06:30 +1000 Subject: Good news for Australia Message-ID: Great I will bring my Stonehenge stage props even if it means carrying an extra case. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Good news for Australia > A mini space rock do is being organised in Queensland. > I've heard that the venue has been booked etc. Fingers crossed - Alien Dream may be doing a set! > WiCkEd From EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET Tue Jul 30 06:32:31 2002 From: EJobson at THRUPOINT.NET (Jobson, Eddie) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:32:31 +0100 Subject: Greasy Truckers Party Message-ID: This has probably been covered already, but does anyone know if there are any HW related artists performing at the Mean Fiddler on 08/11. Not sure if this is 11th Aug or 8th Nov? Thanks, Eddie. From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 30 07:19:17 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:19:17 -0400 Subject: Greasy Truckers Party Message-ID: This is Nik's Space Ritual (or whatever they will be called then), Inner City Unit, Tractor plus maybe others. Colin From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Tue Jul 30 07:26:15 2002 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:26:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols In-Reply-To: <04f501c23741$1dbb95f0$445727d9@bernard> Message-ID: I think Steve Jones now owns the chip shop. Matlock is sticking with the ice cream van... sells fags and booze now too, so it's doing alright. Dave At 21:47 29/07/02 +0100, you wrote: >Really? Which chip shop do they work in these days? > >Cheers, > >Rich. > > > > > Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Tue Jul 30 07:31:48 2002 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:31:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Sex Pistols In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020730122515.01b94dc0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: Sorry this was meant to be off-list. Of course, I've now wasted more space, but just being polite. At 12:26 30/07/02 +0100, you wrote: >I think Steve Jones now owns the chip shop. Matlock is sticking with the >ice cream van... sells fags and booze now too, so it's doing alright. > >Dave > > > >At 21:47 29/07/02 +0100, you wrote: >>Really? Which chip shop do they work in these days? >> >>Cheers, >> >>Rich. >> >> >> >> > Just got back from seeing the Sex Pistols in London. > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jul 30 07:49:15 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:49:15 +0800 Subject: Good news for Australia Message-ID: Oh good. I'll have a soundboard recording hehe Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: Good news for Australia > A mini space rock do is being organised in Queensland. > I've heard that the venue has been booked etc. Fingers crossed - Alien Dream may be doing a set! > WiCkEd > > From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Tue Jul 30 03:34:57 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:34:57 +0100 Subject: HW: my old Hawkwind t-shirt with Screaming Lord Sutch Message-ID: My old Hawkwind t-shirt with Screaming Lord Sutch... had to eventually throw this thing away... worn it proudly since I bougt it at the Oslo show in 1991, it was so worn out and falling apart at the seams, I had to finally toss it. Half an hour later it dawned on me how sad I was. Chr. http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From novadrive at COX.NET Tue Jul 30 10:16:56 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:16:56 -0700 Subject: HW summer camp In-Reply-To: <000901c2372f$12ce5d60$65cf3944@cstltn01.in.comcast.net> Message-ID: Was this supposed Mike Coleman perhaps the one who said to you "Arin is looking for you; she's right over there" ??? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of John Majka > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:38 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW summer camp > > > Howdy all: > > had a great time at the HW summer camp although the temperatures were MUCH > lower than I had anticipated and I spent most of each night shivering and > trying to stay warm. It was especially nice running into folks > i've traded > or corresponded with (sometimes over a period of a decade or more) finally > vis a vis. A big howdy to Captain Black, Arin, Rich, Wilfried, Jill and > others I ran into... am I very much mistaken or did I not speak to the > infamous mr. Coleman with whom I probably haven't spoken since those > embryonic days of Delta Wave, the Rock Cave, Brian Perera etc? I > think the > cold partially froze my social interactions or I would have spent > more time > hanging out in general. Anyway, a great time was had... > John Majka > jmajka2 at comcast.net From jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET Tue Jul 30 10:54:48 2002 From: jmajka2 at COMCAST.NET (John Majka) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:54:48 -0500 Subject: HW summer camp Message-ID: Hmmm.... wasn't that you, Mr. Sommers? And to think that I had imagined Arin was a boy instead of a girl until I met her! It must have been that variant spelling... in my own mind, A= male, E=female. john majka jmajka2 at comcast.net > Was this supposed Mike Coleman perhaps the one who said to you "Arin is > looking for you; she's right over there" ??? > > > KevinSommers > "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of John Majka > > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:38 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: HW summer camp > > > > > > Howdy all: > > > > had a great time at the HW summer camp although the temperatures were MUCH > > lower than I had anticipated and I spent most of each night shivering and > > trying to stay warm. It was especially nice running into folks > > i've traded > > or corresponded with (sometimes over a period of a decade or more) finally > > vis a vis. A big howdy to Captain Black, Arin, Rich, Wilfried, Jill and > > others I ran into... am I very much mistaken or did I not speak to the > > infamous mr. Coleman with whom I probably haven't spoken since those > > embryonic days of Delta Wave, the Rock Cave, Brian Perera etc? I > > think the > > cold partially froze my social interactions or I would have spent > > more time > > hanging out in general. Anyway, a great time was had... > > John Majka > > jmajka2 at comcast.net From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 30 12:10:28 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:10:28 -0400 Subject: HW: Adam Strider Message-ID: I sincerely hope that you did not mean that the way it reads: "jew kid". Colin On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 18:12:02 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?= wrote: >Wasn't he some kind of jew kid who got beaten up for >ever being a Hawkwind deadhead and ran some kind of >idiot kid fanzine. Is he still around - I heard he has >some kind of problem with me. > >- Charlie Yuga > >http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ > >-- >crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake >speedfreak Front 242: take a walk > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Jul 30 12:30:45 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:30:45 EDT Subject: Good news for Australia Message-ID: WiCkEd bring a huge load of narcotics as well In a message dated Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:01:23 AEDT, Steven Skane writes: > Great I will bring my Stonehenge stage props even if it means carrying an > extra case. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:01 PM > Subject: Good news for Australia > > > > A mini space rock do is being organised in Queensland. > > I've heard that the venue has been booked etc. Fingers crossed - Alien > Dream may be doing a set! > > WiCkEd From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 30 13:10:08 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:10:08 EDT Subject: HW: Adam Strider In-Reply-To: <200207301610.MAA10424@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 30 Jul 2002, at 12:10, Colin Allen wrote: > I sincerely hope that you did not mean that the way it reads: "jew > kid". > > Colin > Jeez, Christian, at least ya know that everybody reads your posts! theo From youless at LVCM.COM Tue Jul 30 13:24:19 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:24:19 -0400 Subject: HW: win a free double CD Message-ID: Hi Folks The competition has been won by somebody Cheers Steve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 23:47:59 -0400, Moonglum . wrote: >Hi > >Cherry Red Records sent me a free copy of the newly reissued Zones / This >Is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic double CD. I already have those on CD, so I have >decided to use the free promo to garner some shameless self-publicity for >my website, "Starfarer's Hawkwind Page". > >To win the CD, go to the site at http://www.starfarer.net and click on the >red link entitled "Zones / Do Not Panic Review" on the opening page. This >will take you to the page wherein I review the CD. Details of the >competition are at the bottom of that page. > >Good luck > >Steve From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Jul 30 13:58:26 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:58:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: HW summer camp In-Reply-To: <000501c237d9$0dfe5d80$65cf3944@cstltn01.in.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, John Majka wrote: :Subject: Re: HW summer camp : :Hmmm.... wasn't that you, Mr. Sommers? And to think that I had imagined :Arin was a boy instead of a girl until I met her! It must have been that :variant spelling... in my own mind, A= male, E=female. :john majka :jmajka2 at comcast.net Common mistake ;-) The perils of having a gender-neutral name. ...and it was good to meet you, John! Arin (will post fest review soon, I hope.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jul 30 12:30:03 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:30:03 -0300 Subject: lost command sheet Message-ID: Hi all, I'm trying to set my subscription to 'no mail' while I'm away for a few days. I seem to have accidentally deleted the command sheet for this list group. Could someone help, or send me the sheet? Peace, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Allen Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Greasy Truckers Party This is Nik's Space Ritual (or whatever they will be called then), Inner City Unit, Tractor plus maybe others. Colin From bigdave at MRNICE.NET Tue Jul 30 14:25:10 2002 From: bigdave at MRNICE.NET (Dave Moran) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:25:10 -0700 Subject: Greasy Truckers Party In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 30-07-2002 11:32:31 "Jobson, Eddie" was overheard saying: --------------------------------------------------- > This has probably been covered already, but does anyone know if there are > any HW related artists performing at the Mean Fiddler on 08/11. Not sure if > this is 11th Aug or 8th Nov? > > Thanks, > > Eddie. don,t know the answer to that one but Silver machine are playing at the royal standard, Walthamstow there definately worth seeing. They put on a right good calvert night oh they are a h/w tribute.....cheers ..dave Powered by NICE-mail. MR NICE.net From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jul 30 14:56:24 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:56:24 -0400 Subject: lost command sheet In-Reply-To: ; from sloterdijk@MSN.COM on Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 01:30:03PM -0300 Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 01:30:03PM -0300, Burro Mike wrote: > Hi all, I'm trying to set my subscription to 'no mail' while I'm away for a few days. I seem to have accidentally deleted the command sheet for this list group. Could someone help, or send me the sheet? You can do it by web: http://listserv.spc.edu/archives/boc-l.html -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From sloterdijk at MSN.COM Tue Jul 30 13:13:21 2002 From: sloterdijk at MSN.COM (Burro Mike) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:13:21 -0300 Subject: lost command sheet Message-ID: Thank eric ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Siegerman Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:09 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: lost command sheet On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 01:30:03PM -0300, Burro Mike wrote: > Hi all, I'm trying to set my subscription to 'no mail' while I'm away for a few days. I seem to have accidentally deleted the command sheet for this list group. Could someone help, or send me the sheet? You can do it by web: http://listserv.spc.edu/archives/boc-l.html -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Anyone who swims with the current will reach the big music steamship; whoever swims against the current will perhaps reach the source. - Paul Schneider-Esleben From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Jul 30 15:41:56 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:41:56 -0400 Subject: lost command sheet Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:56:24 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: >On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 01:30:03PM -0300, Burro Mike wrote: >> Hi all, I'm trying to set my subscription to 'no mail' while I'm away for a few days. I seem to have accidentally deleted the command sheet for this list group. Could someone help, or send me the sheet? > >You can do it by web: > http://listserv.spc.edu/archives/boc-l.html And the full set of listserv user commands can be found here: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/1.8d/user/user.html ... doing it by web will likely be much easier! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From stephen.bennett at EARHT.COM Tue Jul 30 17:53:33 2002 From: stephen.bennett at EARHT.COM (Stephen Bennett) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:53:33 +0100 Subject: InterStellar is Back! CHeck it out HERE! In-Reply-To: <200207301941.PAA11715@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: v v v v v v v Go interstellar v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v http://www.earht.com/av/earht_av_bank_a5/real_ram_files/earht_interstellar_h uman_accelerator_fx.ram From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 06:39:49 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:39:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Great Expectations Message-ID: Surprised at how quiet the list is at the moment, especially given the recent Hawkfest (which I couldn't get to & so I'm eager to read any reviews). To try & kick-start something, I was wondering about people's expectations about the next HW album. Me? I'm trying hard not to build up my hopes out of all proportion, but I can't help feeling that the current HW line-up has the *potential* to produce their best studio album for a long, long time. But I also can't help feeling that I've been here before. I had that expectation around 1989/1990 when Simon had rejoined (for the first time). They had tons of great new material & the live shows were largely outstanding. So I was expecting Space Bandits to be a classic HW album. When I first heard it, I couldn't help but be hugely disappointed. In retrospect, it's actually not a bad album at all, IMHO. But at the time, I couldn't help but think that it could've been *so* much better. I also recall being mightily disappointed with Sonic Attack (still am!). But I'd guess that some fans were distinctly underwhelmed by HotMG when it first came out (this was before my time) - it was quite a change from what had gone before (again, less so with the benefit of hindsight) - even if it widely regarded as one of *the* classic HW albums now (my favourite studio album, in fact). Expectation must've been high then in the aftermath of Doremi & Space Ritual. Was this the case? I was also quite surprised to see so little new stuff played at the recent pair of shows. I guess that the Spacebrock/Remix Project version of Earth Calling is now a fully fledged HW number. What about the song Strange Flower I noticed in the set list? I've never encountered this before (or have I just not been paying enough attention?!). Any good? Comments anyone? Dave From samsheppard at CLARA.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 07:26:16 2002 From: samsheppard at CLARA.CO.UK (Uncle Sam) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:26:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Great Expectations Message-ID: Well, there wasnt that many people there but I tell you something I had a great relaxing enjoyable weekend as did my brother and most of the people I got talking too! The main thing is that the weather was hot although cold at night, but mainly the DECENT crowd. Ive been to a few festis this year Glasto etc.. and theres too many muppets out to rip you off and alot of em dont go to the festivals for the music, and they just end up annoying other genuine music fans. I felt safe in leaving my tent open etc.. knowing it wasnt going to be rumbled! I went Hastings as well and met Dr Brock for the first time on the pier (Very laid back) just like me! also met Huw. another thing i liked about the festi is the fact there wasnt No Entry signs everywhere and you could walk about where you liked with out being hastled. The music well.. I cant rememeber much I over endulged both nights and for Bedouin, Hastings sound was a bit ropey but I still enjoyed it and met some nice birds, the festi was a lot better Brainbox,Damnation, NightotH stick in my fragile mind. Strange Flower I think was Huws one and I thought it was good I am a big HUW fan so im glad to see him stumbling about on stage! Bedouin were alot better best Ive seen them. Huws Broken bits band was very good as I didnt know that he was playing with MGriffin and Dibs and I was pretty sober so I can remember the whole set! some great jamming. I took some group photos at the end of the set. Please do it again next year but keep it the same! Also if you are connected to the band and you are organising the next tour. PLEASE PLAY IN AMSTERDAM AT THE PARADISO OR AT WORST THE MELKWEG AS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HW AT MY FAVOURITE VENUE, I NEED TO GET AWAY FROM ROMFORD FOR A FEW DAYS!! Respekt and bring Acid Daze Finsbury Park out on CD From youless at LVCM.COM Wed Jul 31 11:58:39 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:58:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Great Expectations Message-ID: Hi Dave I just posted a huge review (10 pages?!) and 25-30 pics on my website, go to http://www.starfarer.net The new pages can be accessed from the links in red on my home page. I think there's a few mistakes in the review but it's all a bit hazy now :-) Cheers Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:39:49 +0100, Dave Bottomley wrote: >Surprised at how quiet the list is at the moment, especially given the >recent Hawkfest (which I couldn't get to & so I'm eager to read any >reviews) From starfield at SUPANET.COM Wed Jul 31 12:20:35 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:20:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Summer Camp Lost Keys Message-ID: A set of keys were found near the stage during the Festival, with an unusual key fob. If you think they may be yours, tell us what's on the fob and we'll mail them back to you (assuming you can get in your house to pick up the post...). This has been a Hawkwind Public Service Announcement. From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 12:33:29 2002 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:33:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Summer Camp Lost Keys Message-ID: "Captain Bl at ck" wrote: > A set of keys were found near the stage during the Festival, with an unusual key fob. > > If you think they may be yours, tell us what's on the fob and we'll mail them back to you (assuming you can get in your house to pick up the post...). I'd check with Mr Blake. :-) From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 13:01:22 2002 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:01:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Great Expectations Message-ID: "Moonglum ." wrote: > I think there's a few mistakes in the review but it's all a bit hazy now :-) I sincerely hope you meant 'brick' then :-D From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 13:19:08 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:19:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: I never missed a party... Message-ID: I never missed a party... all my life I've gone to shows, had great sex, done more drugs and drank more beer than anyone I've ever known and still stood on my feet as the undisputed king of party and been forever enthroned as the undisputed heavy metal queen warrior... like a lager!! -Chr. http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 13:54:25 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:54:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: Supergrass Message-ID: I liked this band quite a bit back in '95-'96, especially their debut I "Should Coco" (songs like "I'd Like To Know", "Caught By The Fuzz" and "Strange Ones"). Going to work at an animation studio everyday back the winter of '97-'98 I kept seeing posters of "In It For The Money" from the city tram crossing town but the hit single off that album didn't do much for me. Kept seeing it on MTV. I wonder how their albums "Supergrass" and "Grace" are, I guess. Anyone? -Chr. http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Jul 31 14:59:03 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:59:03 -0500 Subject: HW: a long weekend to remember Message-ID: One of these days, I'm going to have to realize that long weekends in the UK are silly. ...but since I've not come to my senses yet, I did make it over for hastings and the fest. (...and now! a quick and not very coherent trip diary. Forgive me, I'm in training this week, and am goofing off rather than paying attention.) Flight across was OK, if a bit cramped. Met Rich at Heathrow (yay! yay! yay!), took the Heathrow Express into Paddington. Oops. tube strike. bugger. Off to wait in the 1 hr + cab line. Was going to hit Forbidden Planet on the way out to Hastings to pick up stuff, but that wasn't going to happen. boo hiss. Not a problem though. Just get to Hastings early ;-) Off to London Bridge, picked up the train to Hastings. (I obviously don't take trains enough. I was far far too amused by the trolley people.) Get to Hastings, find B & B. Ditch stuff. Chill a bit. Be amused by what is considered "en suite" for a bit. Off to wander the pier. It's a beautiful day in Hastings..... Ocean is just breathtaking. Take a look in venue. Old ballroom, maybe? Hope to hear soundcheck. Stupid frickin sound guys fail to get their act together. Bump into Colin Allen. Chat happily for a bit. Think nasty thoughts at sound guys. Chat to Hardy from MQB for a bit. Chat to misc band folk. Catch up a bit since I've not chatted since November. Continue to think nasty thoughts about sound guys. Doors open, and I flyer the masses, along with Rich. See moongluum and linuxchaos from IRC. Chat to his zeitgeistness. Listen to MQB (who were quite good.) Couldn't watch them as was still flyering.... Get done flyering. Wait with baited breath for HW to play. er. um. argh. Let's just say that the sound guys should be taken out and shot. Terrible, terrible stuff. Huw isn't playing as well as he should. Listened to a murder of Spirit of the Age. Hope to heck fest is better ;-) as Hastings was very singularly terrible. Colin offers Rich and I a lift from train station at Axminster to fest the following day. I bless him for that, as it would have been cabs otherwise. Sleep. Catch train at far far too early in the AM the next morning. (what's this jet lag thing you mention?) Hey....train stops at waterloo, so don't have to cab across london again! wa hey! Change trains, arrive in scenic Axminster. Rich calls Colin, then off to find fest location ;-) (thank you, Colin. We appreciated!!!!!) Get lost for awhile. Find the three horseshoes pub. See Nick Lee waiting for friends, and Jill getting into a cab. Get confused for a bit. Eventually find location. Tone amazes us all by instantly recognizing us. Get armbanded (oooh, shiny metal thing ;-) ), see big purple thing loomed. yay big purple thing. Watch Rich set up camp. I've never camped before, so I plead excessive ignorance. Eventually help out ;-) Head off into main field. Wow. oh wow. oh really really really wow. Big big purple tent stage thing was incredible. chaos cafe off at other side. View from the main field was rather nice. See Pete Pracownik setup. and next to him is.... Merrick and Julie! and they brought a mobile array of their stars and stuff. neat!!!!! Pete and Leigh (sp?) are camping with them. They are doing recycling for the fest. What a good idea, and they did a good job of it.... Colin has to leave. Bad bit of business. I'm so sorry, Colin. Sympathy..... Go chat for a bit. see the amazing trikes they had. Good toys, and useful, too! So this is the litmus I've heard word of.... Not bad. MQB was lovely. Bedouin decent. Not the best that I've seen them as, but good. Do lots of chilling. Go back to Mike and Lucy's camper. Attempt to get warm around a "fire". We'll that didn't quite work, but the thought counted. Saw the beginnings of "Beerhenge". Hey Mike....did you ever finish it? Juggled a bit. Glow in the dark juggling balls at night with no light pollution are nice.... Saturday. portaloos still looming. Let's just say that they were supposed to have a much better setup, but as everyone else has mentioned, the portaloos were frightening. It's warm out, and I get terribly sunburnt. (fun, though!) proteus starts. techno-y, but the battle of the planets remix was fun. (maybe I'm just in the right age range....) spacehead. very cool. with team keith (keith b and captain bl at ck) guesting! one eyed bishops just isn't my thing, I'm afraid. Astralasia. So does Pete Pracownik normally play with them? A bit too ....fastpaced for me. I really really like Astralasia, but they upped the tempo on their stuff when they were playing it, i think. HW. so much better than Hastings. Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you! Even the murder of Spirit of the Age was done better ;-) imho, Tim Blake is not my favorite singer. (and now I'll shut up about it, Stuart ;-) ) Capt. Bl at ck, Rizz, and Jez Huggett guesting. Actual setlist slipped out of my head for some reason. Same as hastings? although I thought Earth Calling sounded different. Still can't wait to hear new stuff ;-) (yay the new album. coming soon, I hope!) Completely failed to catch Jez doing his thing in the Jazz tent, unfortunately. Although I was hanging out at Merrick and Julie's campsite with other boc-l folk at the fire and juggling so I plead a partial excuse. ;-) Sunday. sad day. have to leave today as flight goes out on Monday... Hop into Sidmouth? courtesy of Rob, and make much needed use of a loo. Chill by the ocean, although I really should've brough my bathing suit. and ouch! rocks! I understand now why I like sand beaches. Get lift back. Say goodbyes ('til next tour!) Manage to strategically miss all of Sunday's music (sigh. Next time, I'll know better.) All in all the fest was a fabulous experience. Small and intimate, while probably not ideal in terms of money, was absolutely fabulous for meeting and hanging out with folk. Very very mellow. enormously enjoyable. Please, oh please, do again? (then off......) Rob gives us lift to train station (thanks Rob!). Back off to London. Off to ye olde hotel. Suffer, as they don't have air conditioning, and I'm not that keen on sleeping in the heat. Wake up not early enough. Something wrong with my eye (eek). Off to Paddington to ditch my stuff. Make foolhardy journey to Forbidden Planet. Buy far too many Dr. Who audio cds ;-) Say goodbye to Rich :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( Back to Paddington, off to Heathrow Express. Plane delayed a bit, get home. freak out about being back in the real world. sigh. misc thanks and stuff: merrick and julie for the freebie tea. and mike and lucy for misc.) Kris, Tone, and all the others who suffered through the organization. Please, please, please, I hope you do it all again! Neil & Marie & Steve for light show. Even though the enormous purple tent hindered the lights a little, it was still appreciated. The bocl gang! Merrick and Julie, Mike and Lucy, Jill, Rik & Val, Ali, Alan, Wilfried, Nick Lee, the irc gang (gwion, moongluum, linuxchaos, stevenbarrytate, dreamworker), Kevin, Stephe, John Majka, neil & marie, keithb, colm, mick, and the other misc folks from list who I met and hung out with through the course of the weekend. Rich. What can I say? except that I'm going to marry this man ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM Wed Jul 31 15:21:08 2002 From: mikemont at NYCAP.RR.COM (Mike Montfort) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:21:08 -0400 Subject: a long weekend to remember In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You are a jem Arin. Thanks for the stream of consciousness. Pity you couldn't get to Forbidden Planet.. the new Who is out I think.. Mike ________________________ As the poet said, 'Only God can make a tree' -- probably because it's so hard to figure out how to get the bark on. -- Woody Allen ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of Arin Komins ::Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:59 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: HW: a long weekend to remember :: :: ::One of these days, I'm going to have to realize that long weekends ::in the UK are silly. :: ::...but since I've not come to my senses yet, I did make it over ::for hastings and the fest. :: ::(...and now! a quick and not very coherent trip diary. Forgive me, I'm ::in training this week, and am goofing off rather than paying attention.) :: ::Flight across was OK, if a bit cramped. Met Rich at Heathrow (yay! ::yay! yay!), took the Heathrow Express into Paddington. :: ::Oops. tube strike. :: ::bugger. :: ::Off to wait in the 1 hr + cab line. :: ::Was going to hit Forbidden Planet on the way out to Hastings to pick up ::stuff, but that wasn't going to happen. boo hiss. :: ::Not a problem though. Just get to Hastings early ;-) :: ::Off to London Bridge, picked up the train to Hastings. :: ::(I obviously don't take trains enough. I was far far too amused by the ::trolley people.) :: ::Get to Hastings, find B & B. :: ::Ditch stuff. Chill a bit. Be amused by what is considered "en suite" for ::a bit. :: ::Off to wander the pier. It's a beautiful day in Hastings..... ::Ocean is just breathtaking. :: ::Take a look in venue. Old ballroom, maybe? :: ::Hope to hear soundcheck. Stupid frickin sound guys fail to get their ::act together. :: ::Bump into Colin Allen. Chat happily for a bit. Think nasty thoughts ::at sound guys. Chat to Hardy from MQB for a bit. Chat to misc band ::folk. Catch up a bit since I've not chatted since November. :: ::Continue to think nasty thoughts about sound guys. :: ::Doors open, and I flyer the masses, along with Rich. :: ::See moongluum and linuxchaos from IRC. Chat to his zeitgeistness. :: ::Listen to MQB (who were quite good.) Couldn't watch them as was still ::flyering.... :: ::Get done flyering. Wait with baited breath for HW to play. :: ::er. :: ::um. :: ::argh. :: ::Let's just say that the sound guys should be taken out and ::shot. Terrible, terrible stuff. Huw isn't playing as well as he should. ::Listened to a murder of Spirit of the Age. :: ::Hope to heck fest is better ;-) as Hastings was very singularly terrible. :: ::Colin offers Rich and I a lift from train station at Axminster to fest ::the following day. :: ::I bless him for that, as it would have been cabs otherwise. :: ::Sleep. :: ::Catch train at far far too early in the AM the next morning. ::(what's this jet lag thing you mention?) :: ::Hey....train stops at waterloo, so don't have to cab across london again! ::wa hey! :: ::Change trains, arrive in scenic Axminster. Rich calls Colin, then off to ::find fest location ;-) :: ::(thank you, Colin. We appreciated!!!!!) :: ::Get lost for awhile. Find the three horseshoes pub. See Nick Lee waiting ::for friends, and Jill getting into a cab. Get confused for a ::bit. Eventually find location. :: ::Tone amazes us all by instantly recognizing us. Get armbanded (oooh, ::shiny metal thing ;-) ), see big purple thing loomed. yay big purple ::thing. :: ::Watch Rich set up camp. I've never camped before, so I plead excessive ::ignorance. Eventually help out ;-) :: ::Head off into main field. :: ::Wow. :: ::oh wow. :: ::oh really really really wow. Big big purple tent stage thing was ::incredible. chaos cafe off at other side. View from the main field was ::rather nice. See Pete Pracownik setup. and next to him is.... :: ::Merrick and Julie! and they brought a mobile array of their stars and ::stuff. neat!!!!! Pete and Leigh (sp?) are camping with them. They are ::doing recycling for the fest. What a good idea, and they did a good job ::of it.... :: ::Colin has to leave. Bad bit of business. I'm so sorry, ::Colin. Sympathy..... :: ::Go chat for a bit. see the amazing trikes they had. Good toys, and ::useful, too! :: ::So this is the litmus I've heard word of.... :: ::Not bad. MQB was lovely. Bedouin decent. Not the best that I've seen ::them as, but good. :: ::Do lots of chilling. :: ::Go back to Mike and Lucy's camper. Attempt to get warm around a "fire". ::We'll that didn't quite work, but the thought counted. :: ::Saw the beginnings of "Beerhenge". Hey Mike....did you ever finish it? :: ::Juggled a bit. Glow in the dark juggling balls at night with no light ::pollution are nice.... :: ::Saturday. portaloos still looming. Let's just say that they were ::supposed to have a much better setup, but as everyone else has mentioned, ::the portaloos were frightening. It's warm out, and I get terribly ::sunburnt. (fun, though!) :: ::proteus starts. techno-y, but the battle of the planets remix was fun. ::(maybe I'm just in the right age range....) :: ::spacehead. very cool. with team keith (keith b and captain ::bl at ck) guesting! :: ::one eyed bishops just isn't my thing, I'm afraid. :: ::Astralasia. So does Pete Pracownik normally play with them? :: ::A bit too ....fastpaced for me. I really really like Astralasia, but ::they upped the tempo on their stuff when they were playing it, i think. :: ::HW. so much better than Hastings. Thank you thank you thank you thank ::you thank you! Even the murder of Spirit of the Age was done better ;-) :: ::imho, Tim Blake is not my favorite singer. (and now I'll shut up about ::it, Stuart ;-) ) :: ::Capt. Bl at ck, Rizz, and Jez Huggett guesting. :: ::Actual setlist slipped out of my head for some reason. Same as hastings? ::although I thought Earth Calling sounded different. :: ::Still can't wait to hear new stuff ;-) (yay the new album. coming soon, ::I hope!) :: ::Completely failed to catch Jez doing his thing in the Jazz tent, ::unfortunately. Although I was hanging out at Merrick and Julie's campsite ::with other boc-l folk at the fire and juggling so I plead a partial ::excuse. ;-) :: ::Sunday. sad day. have to leave today as flight goes out on Monday... :: ::Hop into Sidmouth? courtesy of Rob, and make much needed use of a loo. ::Chill by the ocean, although I really should've brough my bathing suit. :: ::and ouch! rocks! I understand now why I like sand beaches. :: ::Get lift back. Say goodbyes ('til next tour!) ::Manage to strategically miss all of Sunday's music (sigh. Next time, I'll ::know better.) :: ::All in all the fest was a fabulous experience. Small and intimate, while ::probably not ideal in terms of money, was absolutely fabulous for meeting ::and hanging out with folk. :: ::Very very mellow. enormously enjoyable. Please, oh please, do again? :: ::(then off......) :: ::Rob gives us lift to train station (thanks Rob!). Back off to London. ::Off to ye olde hotel. Suffer, as they don't have air conditioning, and ::I'm not that keen on sleeping in the heat. :: ::Wake up not early enough. Something wrong with my eye (eek). Off to ::Paddington to ditch my stuff. Make foolhardy journey to Forbidden Planet. ::Buy far too many Dr. Who audio cds ;-) :: ::Say goodbye to Rich :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :: ::Back to Paddington, off to Heathrow Express. Plane delayed a bit, ::get home. freak out about being back in the real world. :: ::sigh. :: ::misc thanks and stuff: :: ::merrick and julie for the freebie tea. and mike and lucy for ::misc.) :: ::Kris, Tone, and all the others who suffered through the organization. ::Please, please, please, I hope you do it all again! :: ::Neil & Marie & Steve for light show. Even though the enormous purple tent ::hindered the lights a little, it was still appreciated. :: ::The bocl gang! ::Merrick and Julie, Mike and Lucy, Jill, Rik & Val, Ali, Alan, Wilfried, ::Nick Lee, the irc gang (gwion, moongluum, linuxchaos, stevenbarrytate, ::dreamworker), Kevin, Stephe, John Majka, neil & marie, keithb, colm, ::mick, and the other misc folks from list who I met and hung out with ::through the course of the weekend. :: ::Rich. What can I say? except that I'm going to marry this man ;-) :: ::Arin ::-- ::------------------------------------------------------------------ ::Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu ::Manager of Web Systems Architecture ::University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 ::1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ::------------------------------------------------------------------ :: From samsheppard at CLARA.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 16:17:40 2002 From: samsheppard at CLARA.CO.UK (Uncle Sam) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:17:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Summer Camp Lost Keys Message-ID: Yes, I remember Tim Blake on stage asking kids to look for his lost keys!! From samsheppard at CLARA.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 16:41:49 2002 From: samsheppard at CLARA.CO.UK (Uncle Sam) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:41:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Great Expectations Message-ID: Yer, read your review on the Starfarers site very good website, I was the guy rolling about on the floor!! Thats what i do to have fun after all thats why I came to the festival TO HAVE FUN, I did not interfere with anyone so I cant see whats wrong with it, it put a smile on a few peoples faces! I even had a dog come and join me. Thats what Speed, Skunk Weed, Mushroom Tea, Xtc and a dozen cans of Stella does to me, Oh and a Cheese and Ham Toastie. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 16:41:52 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:41:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Summer Camp Lost Keys Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Uncle Sam > Yes, I remember Tim Blake on stage asking kids to look for his lost keys!! They were found - as I seem to recall However it reminds me that I spent a frantic half hour or so at Edinburgh airport unpacking everything because I couldn't find my own house keys! It turned out that my new rucksack had an extra pocket that I'd forgotten all about. That was embarrassing - and I wish I hadn't remembered now! jill obtimeoff> taking a long weekend holiday just to watch my neice swim up and down a swimming pool 8-) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 16:46:32 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:46:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Great Expectations Message-ID: To anyone else who didn't make it to the Hawkfest, have a read of Steve's excellent review. Now I almost feel as if I were there. In a couple of years, I'll probably have convinced myself I was ;@) Thanks for the links Dave >I just posted a huge review (10 pages?!) and 25-30 pics on my website, go >to http://www.starfarer.net > >The new pages can be accessed from the links in red on my home page. I >think there's a few mistakes in the review but it's all a bit hazy now :-) > >Cheers > >Steve > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:39:49 +0100, Dave Bottomley >wrote: > >>Surprised at how quiet the list is at the moment, especially given the >>recent Hawkfest (which I couldn't get to & so I'm eager to read any >>reviews) From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 18:33:00 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:33:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: "Rotten to the Core" Message-ID: Dear all, a personal as well as a public case I had to bring forward here on boc-l as well, after my numerous posts in newsgroups defending myself and my personal status in the world of UK punk, hardcore and the underground: ---------------------------------------------------- "Rotten to the Core" - I certainly never lied about British Beef or eating dead catholics in England either Both Church of Satan and Belanone have seemingly claimed me some kind of liar after the recent controversy involving me being blackmailed by UK punk band Daredevils after I swore allegiance to the American flag and constitution on an Oslo white pages phonebook in my own home a little over two months ago. The whole corruption scandal involved lying about me claiming the idea that UK punk and hardcore band Discharge were "dead Iron Maiden", being a fan of both bands. Whatever connection the now defunct Daredevils have to the Catholic Church of England or even judaism as far as tactics of blackmail goes are doubtful in honest intentions to say the least. It certainly was a story involving other UK bands Chaos UK and Exploited as far as my other interests in this case are concerned as well as for others and for both bands in particular. The whole case involves being lied about to some degree by Hell's Angels at some point as well and being fleeced in the wake of the entire controversy. That Church of Satan and Belanone are involved now as well just shows how low some choose to stoop to get their way as liars. - Christian Mumford, Asker, 2002 ---------------------------------------------------- -Chr. http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekaker speedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK Wed Jul 31 18:50:41 2002 From: superskrull666 at YAHOO.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?q?Amphetamine=20Embalmer?=) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:50:41 +0100 Subject: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind Message-ID: In 2003 I'll celebrate my 15th year as a Hawkwind deadhead! Ever since my first year of high school in 1988 when I picked up "Chronicle of The Black Sword" on Flicknife I've been diehard in Hawkwind... hooray for me! I'll have to wear an Elric costume for halloween and smoke a big joint and say I'm Adolf Hitler or something. -Chr. http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake speedfreak Front 242: take a walk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Jul 31 20:50:47 2002 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:50:47 -0500 Subject: "Rotten to the Core" Message-ID: Don't know what you are trying to say, but what if I said I was a Pigmy Druid Nudist Buddhist sometimes Atheist who still believes there's a God somehow.....and has a bumper sticker on my car that says "Nuke the Gay Whales for Jesus!" and listens to Barry Manilow and Helen Reddy at that?? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 31 20:59:48 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:59:48 EDT Subject: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind Message-ID: Sounds like we discovered Hawkwind roughly the same time. I was turned on to Levitation in 1988 - 89. Not excctly sure. I finished high school in 86 and good ridance to all that bullshit as well. So its been 15 years...... faark In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:32:16 AEDT, Amphetamine Embalmer writes: > In 2003 I'll celebrate my 15th year as a Hawkwind > deadhead! Ever since my first year of high school in > 1988 when I picked up "Chronicle of The Black Sword" > on Flicknife I've been diehard in Hawkwind... hooray > for me! I'll have to wear an Elric costume for > halloween and smoke a big joint and say I'm Adolf > Hitler or something. > > -Chr. > http://bloomingdales.dreamstation.com/pulp/ > > crankstuf: marmelade, makka, kransekake > speedfreak Front 242: take a walk > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my.yahoo.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 31 21:02:50 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:02:50 EDT Subject: "Rotten to the Core" Message-ID: In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:52:11 AEDT, Tom Clark writes: > Don't know what you are trying to say, but what if I said I was a Pigmy > Druid Nudist Buddhist sometimes Atheist who still believes there's a God > somehow.....and has a bumper sticker on my car that says "Nuke the Gay > Whales for Jesus!" and listens to Barry Manilow and Helen Reddy at that?? I would reccomend putting a warning at the beginning of such emails warning hemroid sufferes to read at their own risk. Something that funny could only lead to a bursting or a flare up From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Wed Jul 31 21:15:08 2002 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:15:08 +1000 Subject: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind Message-ID: Gents It was 1975 - I was about 15, when a friend of mine played In Search of Space, I wasn't quite hooked, but after hearing Hall of the Mountain Grill, I knew I was in the presence of Greatness. Unfortunately Hawkwind have only been to Australia a couple of times - I truly envy you Englanders. Allan Sharpe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: Re: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind > Sounds like we discovered Hawkwind roughly the same time. I was turned on to Levitation in 1988 - 89. Not excctly sure. I finished high school in 86 and good ridance to all that bullshit as well. So its been 15 years...... faark > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 31 21:37:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:37:19 EDT Subject: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind Message-ID: I do have a British passport but I live in Australia mate. ;-) They've been to Oz twice? I knew they were here in 2000. Did you see them? I missed the 2000tour but did see the hawestra so I am at least very happy about that Bruce-27464635/567AU im not a clone!!!!! In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:15:38 AEDT, Allan Sharpe writes: > Gents > > It was 1975 - I was about 15, when a friend of mine played In Search of > Space, I wasn't quite hooked, but after hearing Hall of the Mountain Grill, > I knew I was in the presence of Greatness. > > Unfortunately Hawkwind have only been to Australia a couple of times - I > truly envy you Englanders. > > Allan Sharpe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:59 AM > Subject: Re: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind > > > > Sounds like we discovered Hawkwind roughly the same time. I was turned on > to Levitation in 1988 - 89. Not excctly sure. I finished high school in 86 > and good ridance to all that bullshit as well. So its been 15 years...... > faark > > From sharpies at IDX.COM.AU Wed Jul 31 22:26:42 2002 From: sharpies at IDX.COM.AU (Allan Sharpe) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:26:42 +1000 Subject: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind Message-ID: Oh yeah - saw them in 2000 - waited 25 years (mmmm....) for them - could not miss it. Allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:37 AM Subject: Re: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind > I do have a British passport but I live in Australia mate. ;-) > They've been to Oz twice? I knew they were here in 2000. Did you see them? > I missed the 2000tour but did see the hawestra so I am at least very happy about that > > Bruce-27464635/567AU > im not a clone!!!!! > > > In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:15:38 AEDT, Allan Sharpe writes: > > > Gents > > > > It was 1975 - I was about 15, when a friend of mine played In Search of > > Space, I wasn't quite hooked, but after hearing Hall of the Mountain Grill, > > I knew I was in the presence of Greatness. > > > > Unfortunately Hawkwind have only been to Australia a couple of times - I > > truly envy you Englanders. > > > > Allan Sharpe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:59 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind > > > > > > > Sounds like we discovered Hawkwind roughly the same time. I was turned on > > to Levitation in 1988 - 89. Not excctly sure. I finished high school in 86 > > and good ridance to all that bullshit as well. So its been 15 years...... > > faark > > > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 31 22:34:28 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:34:28 EDT Subject: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind Message-ID: I wont be missing the next on thats fer damn sure In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:27:20 AEDT, Allan Sharpe writes: > Oh yeah - saw them in 2000 - waited 25 years (mmmm....) for them - could > not miss it. > > Allan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael W Blackman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind > > > > I do have a British passport but I live in Australia mate. ;-) > > They've been to Oz twice? I knew they were here in 2000. Did you see > them? > > I missed the 2000tour but did see the hawestra so I am at least very happy > about that > > > > Bruce-27464635/567AU > > im not a clone!!!!! > > > > > > In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:15:38 AEDT, Allan Sharpe > writes: > > > > > Gents > > > > > > It was 1975 - I was about 15, when a friend of mine played In Search of > > > Space, I wasn't quite hooked, but after hearing Hall of the Mountain > Grill, > > > I knew I was in the presence of Greatness. > > > > > > Unfortunately Hawkwind have only been to Australia a couple of times - I > > > truly envy you Englanders. > > > > > > Allan Sharpe > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael W Blackman" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:59 AM > > > Subject: Re: HW: 15 years of Hawkwind > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like we discovered Hawkwind roughly the same time. I was > turned on > > > to Levitation in 1988 - 89. Not excctly sure. I finished high school > in 86 > > > and good ridance to all that bullshit as well. So its been 15 > years...... > > > faark > > > > > > From sheep at BOMB1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 27 07:05:36 2002 From: sheep at BOMB1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Sheep) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:05:36 +0100 Subject: OFFF: still spiked up as fucking Satan and nowhere to go... murder! Message-ID: Personally, I suggest a nice cup of tea young man. You'll find that it's quite invigorating.