From mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK Fri Feb 1 00:55:31 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIE.CO.UK (mark von bargen) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 05:55:31 -0000 Subject: HW: The Links Factor Message-ID: Hi, The culture club and robbie williams links are not producers but they are through another member of the Hawkestra (XHawkestra?!?) who might just be found at this link. http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/steveswindells Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain ferguson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: Re: HW: The Links Factor > Hi, > Dont know if this help Nick, > > the backing person in Robbie Williams band is Karl Wallinger ( he was certainly > there at the beggining of Robbies Solo stuff ( Kiss outfits etc era) he is the > leader of World Party and was in the Waterboys... > > I must admit, I saw Robbie and Glasters and thought he was really good < sorry > guys & gals> > > Iain > > Nick Medford wrote: > > > I have a vague feeling that one of Robbie Williams' backing > > band is someone who has a history suggesting he ought to know better, > > but I can't remember the details. > > > > -- > > Nick Medford > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 1 06:55:26 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:55:26 GMT Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:57:19 -0500 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:42:32 GMT, M Holmes wrote: > > >Doug Pearson writes: > >> The Deep Fix performed at Nik Turner's Bohemian Love-In at the Roundhouse > >> (along with Nik's Sphynx & the Damned) with MM on guitar and Ade Shaw on > >> bass > > > >Did that gig actually happen? I have it in mind that it didn't, but > >perhaps I'm thinking of some other plan that fell apart in 1978. > > You may be thinking of the Kittyhawks gig? That's the one. Boy, does that all seem a long time ago. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 1 06:57:35 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:57:35 GMT Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock In-Reply-To: mike c's message of Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:48:51 -0600 Message-ID: mike c writes: > in between trying to get up nerve to go to the hospital last night, to get > tooth pain under control Just play Valium Ten repeatedly "Now I don't want you to panic. Just lean back and relax..." FoFP P.S: Did your xmas pressie arrive? From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Feb 1 15:08:01 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 20:08:01 GMT Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: Steve Wrote: > >The Bohemian Love In did happen, I know cos I went.. :) (The ticket had a tiny >dot printed on it with the instruction "lick here") > >Sphynx, Tanz Der Youth, Steve Tooks Horns.. that's all I can remember about it >tho.. Definitely no Damned.. I wasn't there but, Moorcock deals with this event in some detail in the interview at the back of 'The Illustrated Collectors Guide to Hawkwind' Here's a brief quote - "The only problem with that gig was that we were ahead of The Damned but we had to use their equipment....." Interesting... In the same interview he also says of KoS "... Kings of Speed was actually written for New Worlds Fair but was just left off because we didn't have room for it... I didn't specifically write [it] for Hawkwind." Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 1 17:12:31 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 17:12:31 EST Subject: OFF: not really anything to do with Lemmy Message-ID: In a message dated 1/31/02 8:29:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jasret at MINDSPRING.COM writes: > <> my dealer . . . received his first 4004LK Lemmy signature bass > from Rickenbacker this morning!!! Which means that I should have mine in a > few weeks Color me GREEN! <> > and I promise > that once it arrives, I'll get pics of all my Rickenbackers scanned and up > Rickenbackers? Plural?? Now I'm really GREEN!! :) Can't wait to see them pix Joe From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Fri Feb 1 18:28:45 2002 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve Pond) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:28:45 +0000 Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock In-Reply-To: <20020201201303.ELND57.wmpmta02-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual> Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 20:08:01 GMT, you sent through the ether: > Here's a brief quote - "The only problem with that gig was that we were ahead of The Damned but we had to use their equipment....." >Interesting... He probably meant Tanz Der Youth with a freshly ex. Damned Brian James on Guitar.. trust me, I was a huge Damned fan at the time and had they been there I would have noticed. :) -S. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Feb 1 18:59:11 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:59:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 23:28:45 +0000, Steve Pond wrote: >On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 20:08:01 GMT, you sent through the ether: > >> Here's a brief quote - "The only problem with that gig was that we >>were ahead of The Damned..." > >He probably meant Tanz Der Youth with a freshly ex. Damned Brian James on >Guitar.. trust me, I was a huge Damned fan at the time and had they been >there I would have noticed. :) Aha! That would explain the discrepency. Although I'd think that confusing Al Powell (Tanz Der Youth drummer) with Rat Scabies (Damned drummer) would be rather difficult ... (the fact that bassist Andy Coulquon didn't wear a nurse's dress - and kept his clothes on [unlike a certain Captain] - might have also been a clue). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From coral at APORT.RU Sat Feb 2 03:16:59 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:16:59 +0300 Subject: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl Message-ID: Hello! Yesterday was a happy day. I visited one local music shop and found there... a lot of HW vinyl. There are a lot of rarities. And some in very good, I'd say looking new, condition. I bought Warrior (some re-issue) and PXR5 (original) there. Very-very happy about it! Also I saw there two vinyls of ASAM, some Roadhawks and something else. Also I found Steve Swindells vinyl in used section. I'll buy it next time. Interesting what is availability of these albums on vinyl in UK? cheers, Alisa From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Feb 2 04:52:29 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 03:52:29 -0600 Subject: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl Message-ID: UK Availability on all those items on vinyl, is good due to reissues over the years. You can pick up a copy of Warrior with Shield Foldout for 8-12 Pounds Copies of ASAM and PXR5 and RoadHawks(- Poster) go for 3-6 Pounds The Swindells is rarer but not impossible, last copy I saw was 5 pounds. It's the CD availability that sucks. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 2:16 AM Subject: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl > Hello! > > Yesterday was a happy day. I visited one local music shop and found there... > a lot of HW vinyl. There are a lot of rarities. And some in very good, I'd > say looking new, condition. I bought Warrior (some re-issue) and PXR5 > (original) there. Very-very happy about it! > > Also I saw there two vinyls of ASAM, some Roadhawks and something else. Also > I found Steve Swindells vinyl in used section. I'll buy it next time. > > Interesting what is availability of these albums on vinyl in UK? > > cheers, > Alisa From drb.serendipity at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Feb 2 05:33:00 2002 From: drb.serendipity at NTLWORLD.COM (David Blair) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:33:00 +0000 Subject: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl In-Reply-To: <001b01c1abc1$fd0fe640$cbf0bec2@ghostwheel2> Message-ID: In article <001b01c1abc1$fd0fe640$cbf0bec2 at ghostwheel2>, Alice writes >Hello! > >Yesterday was a happy day. I visited one local music shop and found there... >a lot of HW vinyl. There are a lot of rarities. And some in very good, I'd >say looking new, condition. I bought Warrior (some re-issue) and PXR5 >(original) there. Very-very happy about it! > >Also I saw there two vinyls of ASAM, some Roadhawks and something else. Also >I found Steve Swindells vinyl in used section. I'll buy it next time. > >Interesting what is availability of these albums on vinyl in UK? Should be generally quite good. I've seen them all (Except Swindells) in our local/nearest used record shop (And occasionally some rarer ones like ISOS with the HW log and the fold-out Warrior and Space Ritual). If you want to compare stocks/prices, they have a few in at the minute - their website is at www.oldhitz.co.uk -- David Blair From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Sat Feb 2 07:14:09 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 07:14:09 -0500 Subject: OFF: Aural Innovations Radio: New Copenhagen Space Rock Festival Special!! Message-ID: http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcement (February 2, 2002): We've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio. This is a special show to promote the Copenhagen Space Rock Festival, which will take place on March 23, 2002 in Copenhagen, Denmark. Scheduled bands include Dark Sun, DarXtar, Gas Giant, Mantric Muse, Pseudo Sun, and The Spacious Mind. Wow!!!!! For festival details visit http://www.spacerock.subnet.dk/. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (Show #41) Dark Sun - "The Epic World Of Captain Gizmo" (from the Electric Dreams promo) Dark Sun - "Innerspace Astronauts" (live from Helsinki, Finland, 10/13/00) DarXtar - "Eternal War" (live from J?nk?ping Sweden Space Rock Festival, 8/15/98) DarXtar - "Compromised Space" (from Tombola) Gas Giant - "Ride The Red Horse" (from Riding The Red Horse To The Last Stronghold Of The Freaks split LP with WE) Gas Giant - "Firetripper" (live from Copenhagen, 12/9/01) Mantric Muse - "Narnia" (from the Picks In Space CD EP) Mantric Muse - "Wobbegong Wookie" (from the 4 track Promo 2000) Pseudo Sun - "Mutiny" (from Atomic Dogs Don't Bark, to be released in March 2002) The Spacious Mind - "House In The Country" (live from J?nk?ping Sweden Space Rock Festival, 8/15/98) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. Also be sure and check out our CD mail order catalog. We've got new discs in stock by Spacehead, DarXtar, High Tide, and much more. We've also got new releases by Krom Lek and Census Of Hallucinations on the way so keep your eye out for those. You can access our online catalog directly at: http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 2 10:43:14 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 15:43:14 -0000 Subject: FW: HW: Camden 1977 tidied up for trade - IMPORTANT Message-ID: Sorry, folks, more internet problems. Trying again to get this through. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Edmonds [mailto:mmje at mmje.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 02 February 2002 11:47 > To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Subject: RE: HW: Camden 1977 tidied up for trade - IMPORTANT > > > Sorry to have to post this but I am behind in dealing with the > mails on this trade - terrible problems with my internet > connection. I think someone moved into the flat below me and > buggered the phone line! > > If you have mailed me wanting to trade and I haven't replied to > you by the end of today (Saturday 2/2), please can you let me > know - I'm not trying to ignore anyone, it's just that at the > moment, I can hardly ever get a connection to work here but I can > check my mails at work. > > Thanks, > > Mark From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Feb 2 11:16:00 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:16:00 -0500 Subject: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, David Blair wrote: => Should be generally quite good. I've seen them all (Except Swindells) in => our local/nearest used record shop (And occasionally some rarer ones => like ISOS with the HW log and the fold-out Warrior and Space Ritual). If => you want to compare stocks/prices, they have a few in at the minute - => their website is at => www.oldhitz.co.uk Is that the place off the Haymarket in the Toon? I remember getting a brand new copy of ICU's _The President's Tapes_ from them many moons ago (and I think my CD of _Passout_ is put out by them). Such pleasant memories of a great shop. (Is the owner affiliated with ICU/Nik?) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Feb 2 12:20:10 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:20:10 -0600 Subject: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl Message-ID: The owner engineered some of the ICU gigs, so they were always pro hawkwind/icu, always very nice people working there. Used to be in a prefab shop behind m+s near the haymarket, before it moved elsewhere. I always used to blag posters fliers and fanzines from them. Bought my copy of the cricket star flexi by Calvert here, frighteningly they had more than one copy Rich W Don't know if the website is related ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mather" To: Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: Re: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, David Blair wrote: > > => Should be generally quite good. I've seen them all (Except Swindells) in > => our local/nearest used record shop (And occasionally some rarer ones > => like ISOS with the HW log and the fold-out Warrior and Space Ritual). If > => you want to compare stocks/prices, they have a few in at the minute - > => their website is at > => www.oldhitz.co.uk > > Is that the place off the Haymarket in the Toon? I remember getting a > brand new copy of ICU's _The President's Tapes_ from them many moons ago > (and I think my CD of _Passout_ is put out by them). Such pleasant > memories of a great shop. (Is the owner affiliated with ICU/Nik?) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa From drb.serendipity at NTLWORLD.COM Sat Feb 2 12:30:05 2002 From: drb.serendipity at NTLWORLD.COM (David Blair) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:30:05 +0000 Subject: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl In-Reply-To: <001301c1ac0d$de2e1980$6bacacac@b> Message-ID: In article <001301c1ac0d$de2e1980$6bacacac at b>, Rich Warren writes >The owner engineered some of the ICU gigs, so they were always pro >hawkwind/icu, always very nice people working there. Used to be in a prefab >shop behind m+s near the haymarket, before it moved elsewhere. I always >used to blag posters fliers and fanzines from them. > >Bought my copy of the cricket star flexi by Calvert here, frighteningly they >had more than one copy > >Rich W > > >Don't know if the website is related It is. The shop's now right next to the entrance to the Swallow Arcade at the end of Percy St, near the Bigg Market. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Mather" >To: >Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:16 AM >Subject: Re: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl > > >> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, David Blair wrote: >> >> => Should be generally quite good. I've seen them all (Except Swindells) >in >> => our local/nearest used record shop (And occasionally some rarer ones >> => like ISOS with the HW log and the fold-out Warrior and Space Ritual). >If >> => you want to compare stocks/prices, they have a few in at the minute - >> => their website is at >> => www.oldhitz.co.uk >> >> Is that the place off the Haymarket in the Toon? Used to be. > I remember getting a >> brand new copy of ICU's _The President's Tapes_ from them many moons ago >> (and I think my CD of _Passout_ is put out by them). Yes, that was theirs, and they did a few videos of Calvert/Max Effect as well (Sadly no longer available) > Such pleasant >> memories of a great shop. (Is the owner affiliated with ICU/Nik?) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paul. >> >> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu >> >> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production >> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >> --- Frank Vincent Zappa -- David Blair Trading list - www.serendipity.clara.net Cover art sites - www.puddytat.fsnet.co.uk http://hompage.ntlworld.com/guzmania From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Feb 2 14:39:21 2002 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 14:39:21 -0500 Subject: HW: Simon King and Mike Moorcock Message-ID: Mystery Solved - thanks Steve. >He probably meant Tanz Der Youth with a freshly ex. Damned Brian James on >Guitar.. trust me, I was a huge Damned fan at the time and had they been there >I would have noticed. :) Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Sat Feb 2 15:47:23 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 15:47:23 -0500 Subject: BOC UK Message-ID: Newcastle Opera House - BOC confirmed for 15th May. From coral at APORT.RU Sun Feb 3 04:40:13 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:40:13 +0300 Subject: HW: WOTEOT and PXR5 on vinyl Message-ID: > Should be generally quite good. I've seen them all (Except Swindells) in > our local/nearest used record shop (And occasionally some rarer ones > like ISOS with the HW log and the fold-out Warrior and Space Ritual). If > you want to compare stocks/prices, they have a few in at the minute - > their website is at > www.oldhitz.co.uk Good shop but I bought them here for lesser price - $20 each :). Alisa From micci at SCI.FI Sun Feb 3 07:00:24 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 14:00:24 +0200 Subject: Dark Sun Message-ID: New Dark Sun website Dark Sun have their new website finally online at http://hop.to/darksun Check it out! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sun Feb 3 08:09:55 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 08:09:55 -0500 Subject: Dark Sun In-Reply-To: <20020203120024.BE2E7F659@kura.mail.jippii.net> Message-ID: This link does not work Thanks, Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Miikka Wagner Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:00 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Dark Sun New Dark Sun website Dark Sun have their new website finally online at http://hop.to/darksun Check it out! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From micci at SCI.FI Sun Feb 3 08:59:03 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 15:59:03 +0200 Subject: Dark Sun Message-ID: ??? I just try it, work fine! >This link does not work >Thanks, >Chris > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Miikka Wagner >Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:00 AM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Dark Sun > > >New Dark Sun website > >Dark Sun have their new website finally online at http://hop.to/darksun > >Check it out! > > >Miikka Wagner >email: micci at sci.fi > >Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind >http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci >email: finn.wind at sci.fi > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From kruch7 at COX.NET Sun Feb 3 09:00:08 2002 From: kruch7 at COX.NET (Joseph Elric Smith) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 09:00:08 -0500 Subject: Dark Sun Message-ID: It worked fine for me too. Ken very nice site by the way. Gygax is to Gaming what Kirby was to comic Alas poor Elric I was a thousand times more evil then you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miikka Wagner" To: Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Dark Sun > ??? I just try it, work fine! > > > >This link does not work > >Thanks, > >Chris > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > >Behalf Of Miikka Wagner > >Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:00 AM > >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >Subject: Dark Sun > > > > > >New Dark Sun website > > > >Dark Sun have their new website finally online at http://hop.to/darksun > > > >Check it out! > > > > > >Miikka Wagner > >email: micci at sci.fi > > > >Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind > >http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci > >email: finn.wind at sci.fi > > > > Miikka Wagner > email: micci at sci.fi > > Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind > http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci > email: finn.wind at sci.fi From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sun Feb 3 09:17:34 2002 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 09:17:34 -0500 Subject: Dark Sun Message-ID: From: "Joseph Elric Smith" > It worked fine for me too. > Ken > very nice site by the way. I got there, but couldn't see anything. I don't do ActiveX or Flash. Jerry From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sun Feb 3 09:40:11 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 09:40:11 -0500 Subject: Dark Sun In-Reply-To: <002001c1acbd$87060680$63a4a918@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: That was what happened to me as well. I am not using ActiveX either. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Jerry Guizar Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 9:18 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Dark Sun From: "Joseph Elric Smith" > It worked fine for me too. > Ken > very nice site by the way. I got there, but couldn't see anything. I don't do ActiveX or Flash. Jerry From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 3 11:22:00 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 10:22:00 -0600 Subject: HW: Warrior CD Message-ID: I still have a Warrior CD(Dojo Version) up for grabs, send any offers to: rich.warren at btinternet.com Rich W From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Feb 3 11:50:53 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 16:50:53 +0000 Subject: HW: live at the bottom line Message-ID: I have a copy of Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line In near mint condition for sale any offers? richjan60 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Sun Feb 3 11:56:07 2002 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 09:56:07 -0700 Subject: Dark Sun Message-ID: Is viewing Flash sites a security risk? It's an impressive site, IMHO, especially since a former band member put it together, rather than a "pro" (like Rik). Hmm, may have to try learning Flash. Guido Jerry Guizar wrote: >From: "Joseph Elric Smith" > >>It worked fine for me too. >>Ken >>very nice site by the way. >> > > I got there, but couldn't see anything. I don't do ActiveX or Flash. > >Jerry > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Feb 3 13:08:50 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:08:50 -0600 Subject: Dark Sun In-Reply-To: <3C5D6BA7.7020408@attbi.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Guido Vacano wrote: :Subject: Re: Dark Sun : :Is viewing Flash sites a security risk? : Has been so in the past (but then again, many programs have been security risks in the past) (see: http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/TJSL-4WRQ43) ActiveX, of course, has been a source of much security pain. Mostly, though, it comes down to an issue of trust. If you trust the site you are viewing, then you should be fine. I tend to surf with activex, flash, java, javascript all turned off (if I use a gui browser....as I tend to use a text based browser much of the time) unless I trust the site that I'm viewing. mission control, for instance ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Sun Feb 3 14:43:46 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:43:46 -0600 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: Hiya folks, Anyone know who first coined the term "space rock"? Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Feb 3 14:47:40 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 19:47:40 -0000 Subject: Dark Sun Message-ID: No. Not in the slightest. Beats me why people object to it so much - unless you've got pointless animations / intro screens etc, or enormous files, in which case bandwidth becomes an issue. Cheers, R. > Is viewing Flash sites a security risk? > > It's an impressive site, IMHO, especially since a former band member put > it together, rather than a "pro" (like Rik). Hmm, may have to try > learning Flash. > > Guido > > Jerry Guizar wrote: > > >From: "Joseph Elric Smith" > > > >>It worked fine for me too. > >>Ken > >>very nice site by the way. > >> > > > > I got there, but couldn't see anything. I don't do ActiveX or Flash. > > > >Jerry > > > From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Sun Feb 3 16:07:44 2002 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 16:07:44 -0500 Subject: Dark Sun Message-ID: From: "Richard Lockwood" > No. Not in the slightest. > > Beats me why people object to it so much - unless you've got pointless > animations / intro screens etc, or enormous files, in which case bandwidth > becomes an issue. The biggest problem is with IE on Windows. Ever since MS switched from plug-ins to ActiveX, I have no idea if the ActiveX control wanting to run is a plug-in like Flash or a malicious program. It doesn't matter to me who's web site I'm visiting (trusted or not), there's no way you can guarantee me that it's impossible for someone to plant a malicious ActiveX control. Jerry From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 3 16:34:34 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:34:34 +0000 Subject: OFF: space rock? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Arin Komins writes > >Anyone know who first coined the term "space rock"? Not sure, but Calvert describes Nik Turner using the term in '69 or '70 (in the interview at Tim Gadd's site, URL should be in the archives), and that this was the first time he (Calvert) had heard it. However it's possible that the term may have already been around: it wouldn't surprise me if its first usage was in connection with Pink Floyd, who had already been playing "spacey" music for 2-3 years by then. Not only did they *sound* spacey but like HW they were keen on sc-fi imagery and lyrics in their early days (e.g. "Astronomy Domine", "Let There Be More Light", "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun"). And they were AFAIK the first band to use psychedelic lighting effects and oil projections etc. So my *guess* is that the term "space rock" was first used by someone attempting to describe the early Floyd experience. Can anyone confirm or deny this? -- Nick Medford From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 3 16:50:13 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 16:50:13 EST Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: In a message dated 4/02/02 8:06:18 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > Not sure, but Calvert describes Nik Turner using the term in '69 or '70 > (in the interview at Tim Gadd's site, URL should be in the archives), and > that this was the first time he (Calvert) had heard it. > > However it's possible that the term may have already been around: it > wouldn't surprise me if its first usage was in connection with Pink Floyd, > who had already been playing "spacey" music for 2-3 years by then I recall reading somewhere that Bob Calvert had met someone (Nik Turner ??? can't remember....) within Hawkwind and had heard that they (Hawkwind) were playing a new type of music they called Space Rock - and that Bob Calvert thought that was a really cool concept. I can't recall ever seeing any reference to Floyd being space rockers. anyway - doesn't help much with the question. I think the people would know best would be those founding members of the time. But I doubt they would want to share that peice of info online as it would no doubt start a big squabble amongst the boc'lers perhaps - maybe not - Ni!!!!!!!! From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Sun Feb 3 16:55:42 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:55:42 +1100 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: Confirmed. Set The Controls is about the Fireclown. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Medford" To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:34 AM Subject: Re: OFF: space rock? > In message cago.edu>, Arin Komins > writes > > > >Anyone know who first coined the term "space rock"? > > Not sure, but Calvert describes Nik Turner using the term in '69 or '70 > (in the interview at Tim Gadd's site, URL should be in the archives), and > that this was the first time he (Calvert) had heard it. > > However it's possible that the term may have already been around: it > wouldn't surprise me if its first usage was in connection with Pink Floyd, > who had already been playing "spacey" music for 2-3 years by then. Not > only did they *sound* spacey but like HW they were keen on sc-fi > imagery and lyrics in their early days (e.g. "Astronomy Domine", "Let > There Be More Light", "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun"). And > they were AFAIK the first band to use psychedelic lighting effects and > oil projections etc. So my *guess* is that the term "space rock" was first > used by someone attempting to describe the early Floyd experience. Can > anyone confirm or deny this? > -- > Nick Medford > From youless at LVCM.COM Mon Feb 4 00:49:48 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:49:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: Tim Gadd's Calvert interviews are at this url: http://lupercal.50megs.com/radio/calvert/contents.html I didn't know about this until Nick mentioned it, it looks very interesting. Steve From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 4 04:23:51 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 04:23:51 -0500 Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: Hi All, I received my copy of the new Starfield CD single "Insomniac" this morning and have been playing it over and over again for the last hour or so. It is a truly amazing work and deserves to be heard by everyone! The CD features Captain Bl at ck, Danny Faulkner, Dillar and Richard Chadwick. I believe that CD Services have it in stock; buy it or you will miss out on an amazing piece of music. COLIN From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Feb 4 11:39:18 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:39:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: MOUNTAIN UK TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED Message-ID: MOUNTAIN UK TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED: Original MOUNTAIN members LESLIE WEST and CORKY LAING will be joined by Richie Scarlet on bass. Special guests will be Del Bromham and Stray. Thurs 28/2 Southampton - The Brook Fri 01/3 London - The Mean Fiddler Sat 02/3 Swansea - Patti Pavillion Sun 03/3 Cardiff - The Point Mon 04/3 Milton Keynes - The Stables Weds 06/3 Newcastle - The Opera House Thurs 07/3 Brierley Hill - Robin Hood 1 Club Fri 08/3 Leicester - The Y Theatre Sat 09/3 Beverley - The Picture Playhouse Z http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Sat Feb 2 11:41:59 2002 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:41:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: Nick Medford wrote: > So my *guess* is that the term "space rock" was first > used by someone attempting to describe the early Floyd experience. Can > anyone confirm or deny this? I discovered Hawkwind when my local record store stuck a tag on _In Search Of Space_ describing it as "Space rock ala Pink Floyd." John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Mon Feb 4 13:04:34 2002 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:04:34 -0500 Subject: SLOTERDIJK: update 2/3/02 Message-ID: Greetings Friends; just a small bit of info to pass on here. Bassist Rob Eckstedt will be contributing a song on the forthcoming CD. Entitled "Flashbacks", it recalls some of Dr. Timothy Leary's experiences, and pays homage to his autobiography of the same title. As for Sloterdijk as a performing unit, we are still moving very slowly, however Jay Adcock and myself have begun preparing an all new acoustic set, which will include some originals, as well as material by Alice Cooper, Black Oak Arkansas, Hawkwind etc. I am also planning on creating an acoustic arrangement of Marilyn Manson's "The Beautiful People". I am hoping to upload at least one new electric tune to our mp3 site, but I need the assistance of someone who is a bit more technical than myself!!! Peace to all.....Mike PS: Attention David Boosamra of Phrygia, I have not forgoten that I need to send you a cd!!! www.mp3.com/sloterdijk From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Mon Feb 4 13:35:55 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 05:35:55 +1100 Subject: MOUNTAIN UK TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED Message-ID: As I am only on the other side of the planet I should have no problem hearing Leslie roaring and screaming from here. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Z E Itgeist" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:39 AM Subject: OFF: MOUNTAIN UK TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED > MOUNTAIN UK TOUR DATES ANNOUNCED: Original MOUNTAIN members LESLIE WEST > and CORKY LAING will be joined by Richie Scarlet on bass. Special guests will be Del Bromham and Stray. > > Thurs 28/2 Southampton - The Brook > Fri 01/3 London - The Mean Fiddler > Sat 02/3 Swansea - Patti Pavillion > Sun 03/3 Cardiff - The Point > Mon 04/3 Milton Keynes - The Stables > Weds 06/3 Newcastle - The Opera House > Thurs 07/3 Brierley Hill - Robin Hood 1 Club > Fri 08/3 Leicester - The Y Theatre > Sat 09/3 Beverley - The Picture Playhouse > > Z > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk > From youless at LVCM.COM Mon Feb 4 20:29:55 2002 From: youless at LVCM.COM (Moonglum .) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:29:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 11:41:59 -0500, John McIntyre wrote: >I discovered Hawkwind when my local record store stuck a tag on _In Search >Of Space_ describing it as "Space rock ala Pink Floyd." > ----------------------------- In 1985 in a record shop in Santa Cruz, California, I spotted a copy of the Hawklords 25 Years 12-inch single. They put a tag on it that said "Yes meets the Dead Boys", which is pretty accurate when you think about it. Steve From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Feb 4 21:46:49 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:46:49 EST Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/4/02 5:30:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, youless at LVCM.COM writes: > In 1985 in a record shop in Santa Cruz, California, I spotted a copy of the > Hawklords 25 Years 12-inch single. They put a tag on it that said "Yes > meets the Dead Boys", which is pretty accurate when you think about it. > > Steve except that it was "Armchair Hawkwind"... :) ...still, not a bad record at all! ...as for the Space-Rock thing, the Silver Apples released their first LP in '68, a year after Floyd, but still, anyone think it fit the bill? Maybe not the lyrics, and no jamming (though I have no idea what their gigs were like at the time...assuming they even played), but the overall sound, yep... Chuck From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Feb 4 22:30:45 2002 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 22:30:45 EST Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/4/02 9:48:07 PM ******* writes: << They put a tag on it that said "Yes > meets the Dead Boys", which is pretty accurate when you think about it. > >> ....This one encourages you to GET A CLUE before you say any other stupid things.... "<>" From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Tue Feb 5 03:16:13 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 03:16:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 22:30:45 EST, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >In a message dated 2/4/02 9:48:07 PM ******* writes: > ><< They put a tag on it that said "Yes >> meets the Dead Boys", which is pretty accurate when you think about it. >> >> > >....This one encourages you to GET A CLUE >before you say any other stupid things.... > >"<>" Say MORE ?!?!? From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Tue Feb 5 04:05:59 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 20:05:59 +1100 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: When under Sonic Attack a Sonic Reducer aint no use(a). Aint it fun when you know your gonna die young. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: Re: OFF: space rock? > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 22:30:45 EST, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > >In a message dated 2/4/02 9:48:07 PM ******* writes: > > > ><< They put a tag on it that said "Yes > >> meets the Dead Boys", which is pretty accurate when you think about it. > >> >> > > > >....This one encourages you to GET A CLUE > >before you say any other stupid things.... > > > >"<>" > > Say MORE ?!?!? > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Feb 5 04:25:59 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 04:25:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Mantric Muse Message-ID: Hey... What can you folks tell me about Mantric Muse? I've just heard a couple of their tracks from Jerry's show on the upcoming Copenhagen SpaceRock Fest (which looks to be a real, what you call it?, corker?), and was quite impressed. Very Ozric-y, Delerium-label type stuff - impressive swirly effects and lovely 'circular' guitar licks. I won't bring up the 'what's the point if they sound so much like Band X' (or should I say Group X?). :) I like them, and they do sound like they have some point to being. So...the usual questions....what's available, what label, where from, LP or CD, out-of-print or not, who has it (AG?). That's all....Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Is anybody here planning to go see the Nektar reunion at NEARFest (Trenton, NJ) last weekend of June? All original members, plus Larry Fast and lighting guy Mick Brockett. The new album (which only featured Roye and Taff, but still considered "Nektar") leaves a little to be desired (though it's not horrible), but I guess they'll be pretty much doing a retro dinosaur show there, with a big RtF spiel and (I'm hoping) some stuff from the first album. P.P.S. I was listening to Genesis' 'Saving England by the Pound' the other day (just to remind myself how average this band was), and noticing that there are several mentions of a 'Liquid Len' in the lyrics. So is that coincidence, and if not, who came first? This is a 1973 album I think, so probably a 1972 recording. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 5 05:32:45 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 05:32:45 EST Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: In a message dated 5/02/02 2:02:50 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > ....This one encourages you to GET A CLUE > before you say any other stupid things.... > > "<>" > a clue - who needs clues - we all know the butler done it and he woulda got away wiff it too...... if it hadn't been for those damn kids 8>X From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 5 05:38:25 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 05:38:25 EST Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: In a message dated 5/02/02 6:56:32 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK writes: > Say MORE ?!?!? > you have the freedom to say what you like anytime - anytime - even if the critics try to slap you around with a rancid trout - keep on truckin From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 5 05:46:02 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 05:46:02 EST Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: In a message dated 5/02/02 7:32:14 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU writes: > When under Sonic Attack a Sonic Reducer aint no use(a). Aint it fun when you > know your gonna die young. > in the case of sonic attack - attatch: (1) gerbil to your right ear then (2) insert a rabbits foot into your left ear (you may prefer a sedated rabbit) next - (3) place an authentic WW1 german helmet without the optional spike upon head Then (4) slip into leather nuns habit and hop on right leg untill all sign of sonic attack is over...... you will survive - just dont let anyone see you doing it tho the gerbil ussually does not survive - but will be just right for a snack ( tastes like hagis) &>) From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 5 08:25:17 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:25:17 +0800 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: > > &>) > ??????? What is that? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 5 08:26:49 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 08:26:49 EST Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: In a message dated 5/02/02 11:55:01 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU writes: > ??????? What is that? tis the evil eye of duff mcdougall - renouned for his evil eye you see - because it's ...well .... evil.... From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 5 08:23:42 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:23:42 +0800 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: > > Say MORE ?!?!? > > > > you have the freedom to say what you like anytime - anytime - > > even if the critics try to slap you around with a rancid trout - keep on > truckin > You also have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be used against you blah blah bblah From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Feb 5 09:54:56 2002 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 07:54:56 -0700 Subject: OFF: space rock? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Let's see: In 1985, Yes sounded (to much of the world, anyway) like 'Owner Of A Lonely Heart." Mix that with the Dead Boys, and you get something which some could compare the '25 Years' single to. I must not have A CLUE myself, because I'm not seeing the "stupid thing" said here KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of DASLUD at AOL.COM > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:31 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: space rock? > > > In a message dated 2/4/02 9:48:07 PM ******* writes: > > << In 1985 in a record shop in Santa Cruz, California, I spotted a copy of the Hawklords 25 Years 12-inch single. They put a tag on it that said "Yes > > meets the Dead Boys", which is pretty accurate when you think about it. > > >> > > ....This one encourages you to GET A CLUE > before you say any other stupid things.... > > "<>" From micci at SCI.FI Tue Feb 5 10:01:57 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 17:01:57 +0200 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual Message-ID: Hi! I need Yule Ritual front cover in jpg. format. Can anyone scanned it for me, please. Keep size small if you can. Send it star.lion at sci.fi address, please Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Tue Feb 5 12:09:41 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:09:41 -0500 Subject: OFF: Led Zep tribute UK (inc Edinburgh) Message-ID: On 19th November 1971, Led Zeppelin released what was to become one of the greatest albums of all time. Whole Lotta Led will be playing a series of special concerts to celebrate the 30th anniversary of this historic occasion. The first half of the show will feature songs from the first three Led Zeppelin LP's. The second section will feature the whole of Led Zeppelin IV in the same sequence as the original LP. This will be followed by a selection of songs from 'Houses Of The Holy' onwards. And I shall be there on Sat 16th. - Tue 12th Feb 02 The Ryan Centre, Stranraer Thu 14th Feb 02 The Lemon Tree, Aberdeen Sat 16th Feb 02 The Liquid Room, Edinburgh with special guests 'Mama Rag' Sun 17th Feb 02 The New Roscoe, Leeds Fri 22nd Feb 02 The Wedgewood Rooms, Portsmouth Sat 23rd Feb 02 The Pavilion, Bath with special guests 'Purple Haze' From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Tue Feb 5 14:05:04 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 19:05:04 UT Subject: BOC: John Shirley's Flaming Telepaths??? Message-ID: I was at a bookstore last week, and on a lark I picked up a 1992 anthology called "Shock Rock", which is all short horror stories related in some way to rock music. When I got it home I noticed that one of the stories is called "Flaming Telepaths". . . by John Shirley!!! I haven't read it yet, but I scanned all the pages and didn't see a mention of Blue Oyster Cult. Someone is playing Motorhead's Orgasmatron album early in the story, though. It's dated 1992. Anybody know anything about this??? --Nick From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Feb 5 10:15:56 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:15:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Terrastock 5 Message-ID: In case anyone's interested: > TERRASTOCK 5 - INTERNATIONAL MUSIC FESTIVAL COMING TO BOSTON AREA > > We are pleased to announce that the fifth Terrastock festival of arts > and music takes place this year over the weekend of October 11-13, 2002 > at the Middle East Nightclub, 472 Mass Ave, Cambridge, Massachusetts, > USA. > > Terrastock 5 aims to build on the continuing tradition and success of > the previous Terrastock events, held in Providence, Rhode Island ('97), > San Francisco, California ('98), London, England ('99, and Seattle, > Washington ('00). This upcoming three-day festival of sound and vision > has been conceived in a similar spirit of "peace, love and co-operation" > in order to celebrate the music championed by the long-running magazine > The Ptolemaic Terrascope. > > Terrastock 5 is not an indie-rock A&R feeding frenzy. Bands and artists > will be there solely at the personal invitation of the organizers. The > one thing they all have in common is the fact that each has at some time > been adulated in the Terrascope. It's simply about the music and that > indefinable "spirit of Terrastock". If you were fortunate enough to be > at any of the previous Terrastock festivals, you'll already know what we > mean. If you're intrigued enough to check out what all the fuss has > been about in previous years, then now's your chance: don't hesitate, > because tickets to this unique event are promising to sell out VERY > quickly indeed. > > Three-day tickets are US$70 and will go on sale March 1, 2002. > Information on how one may purchase tickets will be made available as we > get closer to that date. As always, for this entirely self-financing > event there is a policy of absolutely NO GUEST LIST, NO EXCEPTIONS in > force. > > ARTISTS SCHEDULED TO APPEAR INCLUDE > 6 Organs of Admittance > Acid Mothers Temple > Bardo Pond > The Bevis Frond > Charalambides > client/server > Damon & Naomi > Delicate AWOL > Dipsomaniacs > Ethereal Counterbalance > Ghost > Hopewell > The Hushdrops > The Iditarod > Kinski > Landing > Lily's > Lockgroove > The Lothars > The Lucky Bishops > Barbara Manning & the Go-Luckys! > Motorpsycho > Paik > Sonic Youth > ST37 > Stone Breath > Subarachnoid Space > The Sunshine Fix > Greg Weeks > Windy & Carl > > Bear in mind that this is by no means a complete and final roster and is > SUBJECT TO CONFIRMATION. As always, we also have several additional > guest artists and special surprises in store. > > > For news, updated information and general announcements on Terrastock 5, > please make frequent visits to the Ptolemaic Terrascope website at > http://www.terrascope.org > > General enquiries regarding the event can be submitted to > > > Thanks! We look forward to seeing you there! > > Yours sincerely, the Five Five: > > Festival Organizer: > JOE TURNER > (cutter at abunai.com) > > Artist Liaison: > STEPHANIE COSTELLO > (HUNYTHNDR at aol.com) > > Advertising: > TOM GUTTADAURO > (tomfish at tomthefish.com) > > Travel and Accommodation: > AAMIR MALIK > 253-661-2881 > (aamirmalik at prodigy.net) > > Festival Promoter: > Phil McMullen, > The Ptolemaic Terrascope, > PO Box 2152, > Melksham, > Wiltshire SN12 7UQ, > England > (editor at terrascope.org) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Tue Feb 5 14:21:47 2002 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 19:21:47 -0000 Subject: BOC: John Shirley's Flaming Telepaths??? In-Reply-To: <200202051905.OAA63974@www1524.boca15-verio.com> Message-ID: JS has been a fan since way back - check out: http://www.darkecho.com/JohnShirley/transmaniacon.html -- Andy www.andygilham.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 5 15:26:18 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:26:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: space rock? Message-ID: Close to the edge and Down in flames? Owner of a lonely heart Don't want no dirty back seat love? -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 20:05:59 +1100, Steven Skane wrote: >When under Sonic Attack a Sonic Reducer aint no use(a). Aint it fun >when you know your gonna die young. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Von Bargen" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 7:16 PM >Subject: Re: OFF: space rock? > > >> On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 22:30:45 EST, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >> >> >In a message dated 2/4/02 9:48:07 PM ******* writes: >> > >> ><< They put a tag on it that said "Yes >> >> meets the Dead Boys", which is pretty accurate when you think about it. >> >> >> >> > >> >....This one encourages you to GET A CLUE >> >before you say any other stupid things.... >> > >> >"<>" >> >> Say MORE ?!?!? >> From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Tue Feb 5 16:32:14 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (mark von bargen) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:32:14 -0000 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Message-ID: Hi, Been a fan for more than 25 years now and there is now more that I don't know about this band than i ever knew in the first place. One question bugs me. Anybody know the story behind the words to FESTIVAL from the Alien4 album. If I remember correctly they were also printed on the cover of a previous album?! Its not as if theyr'e a bunch of words that were just thrown together. There must be a story and I get the gist that its something to do with hassles on the festival scene. Anybody know any more? Mark From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 5 16:44:15 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 16:44:15 -0500 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:32:14 -0000, mark von bargen wrote: >Been a fan for more than 25 years now and there is now more that I don't >know about this band than i ever knew in the first place. > >One question bugs me. Anybody know the story behind the words to FESTIVAL >from the Alien4 album. If I remember correctly they were also printed on >the cover of a previous album?! Its not as if theyr'e a bunch of words >that were just thrown together. There must be a story and I get the gist >that its something to do with hassles on the festival scene. Anybody know >any more? If you've been a fan for 25 years, you must know what happened at Stonehenge in 1985 ("Battle of the Beanfield")? Some relavent links I ran across include (some have HW/Nik/TAT references): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/scfestiv.htm http://tash.dns2go.com/Vtape-main_320x240_RM.htm http://www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk/h850601.htm http://www.earthlydelights.co.uk/netnews/wally.html http://www.spectacle.co.uk/syn_solstice.html http://www.gn.apc.org/tash/shenge_diary1988_1.htm I'm sure that some folks on the list that attend the "commercial" festivals (Glastonbury etc.) these days can fill you in on some of the hassles with those. I remember seeing an interview with Dave somewhere where he was asked about the song ... I'll try to dig that up, if I can ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 5 17:19:50 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 22:19:50 -0000 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Message-ID: I seem to remember reading a report about a free festival in Brighton in around '90 when the band were attacked on stage and some of their gear and van turned over by a gang of crusties. Given HW's dedication to the free festival scene over the years that may go some way to explaining the lyrics. Anyone else remember this, or even have the clipping? It may well be in one of Trev's 'zines (more likely one of the Stonehenge/free festi type ones rather than a HW one). I'll have a look sometime soon. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark von bargen" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:32 PM Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Hi, Been a fan for more than 25 years now and there is now more that I don't know about this band than i ever knew in the first place. One question bugs me. Anybody know the story behind the words to FESTIVAL from the Alien4 album. If I remember correctly they were also printed on the cover of a previous album?! Its not as if theyr'e a bunch of words that were just thrown together. There must be a story and I get the gist that its something to do with hassles on the festival scene. Anybody know any more? Mark From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 5 13:32:52 2002 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 18:32:52 -0000 Subject: OFF: Mantric Muse Message-ID: don't know it Keith - as curious to know more as yuo are I think - someone????? Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: OFF: Mantric Muse > Hey... > > What can you folks tell me about Mantric Muse? I've just heard a couple of > their tracks from Jerry's show on the upcoming Copenhagen SpaceRock Fest > (which looks to be a real, what you call it?, corker?), and was quite > impressed. Very Ozric-y, Delerium-label type stuff - impressive swirly > effects and lovely 'circular' guitar licks. I won't bring up the 'what's > the point if they sound so much like Band X' (or should I say Group X?). :) > > I like them, and they do sound like they have some point to being. > > So...the usual questions....what's available, what label, where from, LP or > CD, out-of-print or not, who has it (AG?). > > That's all....Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. Is anybody here planning to go see the Nektar reunion at NEARFest > (Trenton, NJ) last weekend of June? All original members, plus Larry Fast > and lighting guy Mick Brockett. The new album (which only featured Roye and > Taff, but still considered "Nektar") leaves a little to be desired (though > it's not horrible), but I guess they'll be pretty much doing a retro > dinosaur show there, with a big RtF spiel and (I'm hoping) some stuff from > the first album. > > P.P.S. I was listening to Genesis' 'Saving England by the Pound' the other > day (just to remind myself how average this band was), and noticing that > there are several mentions of a 'Liquid Len' in the lyrics. So is that > coincidence, and if not, who came first? This is a 1973 album I think, so > probably a 1972 recording. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Feb 5 18:31:16 2002 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:31:16 -0000 Subject: IMPORTANT E.MAIL CHANGE Message-ID: Hi, With immediate effect our e.mail has changed to: deadearnest at btopenworld.com Please alter your settings accordingly. You may have me listed as the above or Kath at: kathg at dial.pipex.com Since this is an 'en masse' mail-out if you have not had or will not require the need to contact me at anytime, then sorry to have bothered you. Andy G. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 5 19:27:22 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:27:22 +0000 Subject: OFF: This year's RnRHoF inductees In-Reply-To: <200112140750.CAA28666@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, K Henderson wrote: > Well... > > The Ramones > Talking Heads > Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers > Isaac Hayes > Brenda Lee > Gene Pitney > > Another year, another bunch of puzzling names. Not that I can't see that > one or two of these artists were 'important' or anything (I even *own* > albums by Talking Heads, which certainly makes *them* important) :) > > Who the *hell* is Gene Pitney? Brenda Lee I don't know from Eve either. > And Isaac Hayes - the guy who did Shaft? Is there something else about > Isaac Hayes that I just don't know about? Granted, I don't know *anything* > about him *except* that. I think the important thing there is that Isaac hayes voices Chef in South Park, which may have an awful lot to do with any renewed recogition of his work that may be going on (not that I've seen any hype beyond a best of advert that could have been anybody's). By such tricky means can rock'n'roll fame be achieved... Yours, Jon -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Feb 5 20:15:49 2002 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 20:15:49 EST Subject: OFF: This year's RnRHoF inductees Message-ID: In a message dated 2/5/02 7:27:56 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: << > The Ramones > Talking Heads > Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers > Isaac Hayes > Brenda Lee > Gene Pitney > >> =================== In Baseball, for _their_ hall of fame, the players must be retired for at least 5 years, before their candidacy.... === What crossed my mind, was whither, f'r instance, the Motown drummers (Purdie and...um...) and Hal Blaine and...um...but how many other Motown-ites are in there ? Isaac Hayes, in addition to numerous variations on "Theme from Shaft" by others in the ensuing years, (that sound was a genre in its own right!) had been putting out LP's w/ 18-minute versions of "By the time I get to Phoenix"...does that get him into this "hall of fame"? Is Roxy Music in there? I dunno, I'm asking you. Are the Byrds in there? ...And if the Velvet Underground isnt there.... ===== Well, guys and gals, time for me to blow this clambake. I have far more serious concerns these days, known to others with whom I've corresponded away from here. I'll hang around for a few days, lurking, but I must be on my way. See yiz next month, maybe. "<>" L'menexe (Who saw both Yes (74) _and_ the Dead Boys (79?) play, so nyah nyah nyah.) From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 5 21:48:32 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 02:48:32 +0000 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question In-Reply-To: <005701c1ae93$3b6a91f0$bf170150@yourpnqspyopyu> Message-ID: In message <005701c1ae93$3b6a91f0$bf170150 at yourpnqspyopyu>, Nick Lee writes >I seem to remember reading a report about a free festival in Brighton in >around '90 when the band were attacked on stage and some of their gear and >van turned over by a gang of crusties. Given HW's dedication to the free >festival scene over the years that may go some way to explaining the lyrics. >Anyone else remember this, or even have the clipping? Don't have a clipping but I read about it some 'zine at the time. In the late 80s a new phenomenon emerged at the festivals, the so-called "Brew Crew", nihilistic malevolent "fuck everything" crusties whose drugs of choice were Special Brew and heroin and whose entertainment of choice was often violent. For some reason some friction developed between this mob and HW. Whether this was because they perceived HW as boring old hippies or whatever, or whether there was a more direct reason, I don't know. Nor can I recall which festival the trouble was at. However the account I read said death threats had been made against the members of HW and when they went onstage to play Brock had a monkey wrench about his person in case trouble flared. Someone in the crowd threw an egg and a melee ensued. Some of HW's gear was damaged , as was their bus, and the Hawks had to be hidden away in friends' vans around the festival site for protection from marauding Brew Crew types. At least that's what I read, possibly it was a sensationalised account, although I did once find something on the web about this, on a traveller/festival site, which was broadly in agreement with the above. Footnote to Doug- the song Festivals is not about the "Battle of the Beanfield", although "Confrontation" on Out and Intake and ICU's "Stonehenge Who Knows" both relate to that infamous episode. But "Festivals" is about being attacked by your "own side" as it were, it may be connected to the incident described above but in a broader way it's about the loss of innocence of the festival scene, its burgeoning dark side of hard drugs and violence and the loss of community spirit. But thanks for digging up all those links nonetheless, and I think the 'Festivals' incident may be mentioned at at least one of those sites if you look hard enough. Oh and the lyrics were originally printed on the cover of Palace Springs. -- Nick Medford From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 00:51:23 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:51:23 EST Subject: OFF: Farflung Message-ID: Hallo, Tommy G e-mailed and said there are two FF discs coming out: 1.When Science Fails, a "soundtrack", will be released "this week" (Falcata-Galia, I assume) and 2.Prototype of a Traveller, on Brainticket, "in two months time", the "space-rock album"... (Myth of Solid Ground??) OFF OFF: The new Brain album in May. (more of the same as the first album.) Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 00:26:06 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:26:06 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/2/02 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck NOTE: We now have a PC at the station! I am ready (and quite willing) to take e-mail responses during my show..."comments, questions, requests...", whatever...I'll be checking my e-mail regularly...so if you wanna get in touch, e-mail during the show... 2/2 (thanks to Murray for additional programming recommendations and the ramblings of an FBC) 1.Morbius-- "Rock 'n' Roll" (The New Rock 'N' Roll comp; 3D) 2.Helios Creed-- "Your Spaceman" (7"; Amphetamine Reptile) 3.Mandra Gora Lightshow Society-- "I Don't Want to Rewind the Time" (Beyond the Mushroam Gate; Liquid Sound/Brainticket...thanks, John!!) 4.Dave Brock-- "Dream 1/Assassination/Dream 2" (Weird Tapes 1; Hawkwind) 5.Future Sound of London-- "Far Out Son of Lung and the Ramblings of a Madman" (ISDN; Virgin/EBV) 6.Kelly Stoltz-- "Perpetual Night" (Antique Glow) 7.Saddar Bazaar-- "Arabesque" (Path of the Rose; Delerium) 8.Salamander-- "David's Opening" (Red Mantra; Camera Obscura) 9.Vas Deferens Org/Electric Co-- "Hushed Plateau of Gelid Elves/Snappy Smarm" (More Pelvis Wick...; Tekito) 10.Faust-- tracks 2 and 3 (71 Minutes; Cuneiform/ReR) 11.Sub Oslo-- "Science Dub" (ST'd; Two Ohm Hop) 12.Cluster-- "Plas" (II; Spalax) 13.The Brain-- "Dimmensions Unmeasurable" (Access and Amplify; Hypnotic/Cleopatra) 14.Silver Apples-- "Cannonball Noodle" (The Garden; Whirlybird) 15.Third Eye Foundation-- "I Have Known Love" (Electronic Evocations: Tribute to the Silver Apples; Enraptured) 16.Cul de Sac-- "Roses in the Wallpaper" (I Don't Want to Go to Bed; Thirsty Ear) 17.Pink Floyd-- "Saucerfull of Secrets" (Umma Gumma; EMI/Harvest) thanks, Chuck From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Wed Feb 6 01:33:46 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:33:46 -0600 Subject: OFF: Terrastock 5 Message-ID: Sure looks like a cool line up. Anybody here planning on going? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: OFF: Terrastock 5 > In case anyone's interested: > > > TERRASTOCK 5 - INTERNATIONAL MUSIC FESTIVAL COMING TO BOSTON AREA From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Wed Feb 6 02:58:42 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?=) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:58:42 +0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgUmU6IEhXOkx5cmljcyBRdWVzdGlvbg==?= Message-ID: Nick (and Others), Thank You. Mark -- Mark Von-Bargen mark.von-bargen at genieone.co.uk - email 07711 286613 - mobile ---- Nick Medford wrote: ---------------- In message <005701c1ae93$3b6a91f0$bf170150 at yourpnqspyopyu>, Nick Lee writes >I seem to remember reading a report about a free festival in Brighton in >around '90 when the band were attacked on stage and some of their gear and >van turned over by a gang of crusties. Given HW's dedication to the free >festival scene over the years that may go some way to explaining the lyrics. >Anyone else remember this, or even have the clipping? Don't have a clipping but I read about it some 'zine at the time. In the late 80s a new phenomenon emerged at the festivals, the so-called "Brew Crew", nihilistic malevolent "fuck everything" crusties whose drugs of choice were Special Brew and heroin and whose entertainment of choice was often violent. For some reason some friction developed between this mob and HW. Whether this was because they perceived HW as boring old hippies or whatever, or whether there was a more direct reason, I don't know. Nor can I recall which festival the trouble was at. However the account I read said death threats had been made against the members of HW and when they went onstage to play Brock had a monkey wrench about his person in case trouble flared. Someone in the crowd threw an egg and a melee ensued. Some of HW's gear was damaged , as was their bus, and the Hawks had to be hidden away in friends' vans around the festival site for protection from marauding Brew Crew types. At least that's what I read, possibly it was a sensationalised account, although I did once find something on the web about this, on a traveller/festival site, which was broadly in agreement with the above. Footnote to Doug- the song Festivals is not about the "Battle of the Beanfield", although "Confrontation" on Out and Intake and ICU's "Stonehenge Who Knows" both relate to that infamous episode. But "Festivals" is about being attacked by your "own side" as it were, it may be connected to the incident described above but in a broader way it's about the loss of innocence of the festival scene, its burgeoning dark side of hard drugs and violence and the loss of community spirit. But thanks for digging up all those links nonetheless, and I think the 'Festivals' incident may be mentioned at at least one of those sites if you look hard enough. Oh and the lyrics were originally printed on the cover of Palace Springs. -- Nick Medford ---------------- __________________________________________________ Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Feb 6 04:32:42 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:32:42 +1100 Subject: OFF: This year's RnRHoF inductees Message-ID: The Ramones were pre punk and a big influence on bands like the Sex Pistols. I suppose maybe they scrape in. Gene Pitney is not rock and roll and neither is Isaac Hayes although I have a vague memory of Hayes being in some of those bands at the dawn of rock and roll like Ike Turner. Brenda Lees is no rock and roller either. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: Re: OFF: This year's RnRHoF inductees > On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, K Henderson wrote: > > > Well... > > > > The Ramones > > Talking Heads > > Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers > > Isaac Hayes > > Brenda Lee > > Gene Pitney > > > > Another year, another bunch of puzzling names. Not that I can't see that > > one or two of these artists were 'important' or anything (I even *own* > > albums by Talking Heads, which certainly makes *them* important) :) > > > > Who the *hell* is Gene Pitney? Brenda Lee I don't know from Eve either. > > And Isaac Hayes - the guy who did Shaft? Is there something else about > > Isaac Hayes that I just don't know about? Granted, I don't know *anything* > > about him *except* that. > > I think the important thing there is that Isaac hayes voices Chef > in South Park, which may have an awful lot to do with any renewed > recogition of his work that may be going on (not that I've seen any hype > beyond a best of advert that could have been anybody's). By such tricky > means can rock'n'roll fame be achieved... Yours, > Jon > > -- > "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine > law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient > to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the > delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. > > (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Feb 6 07:00:11 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 12:00:11 +0000 Subject: HW: EMI jewel-case remasters Message-ID: Dear All, possibly bad news for the Kollectors among you here chaps. I dsicovered recently that my girlfirend had acquired herself a copy of the jewel-case version of _Space Ritual_ because it had been going for six quid in a shop near her. This is of course bad news in itself if like me you paid four times that for the digi-pak. but there's more. i inspected it to see how they'd laid out the booklet, and discovered that the answer was, very badly, by which I mean that the Moorcock story section was paginated out of order and indeed as far as I could tell there were two pages entirely missing. Is this usual, or was this one remaindered because its booklet was messed up? If the latter, I fear Mike Coleman may have to double-up his copy... Perhaps some of the people with jewel-case versions wouldn't mind seeing if the sentences in their booklets actually continue across the pages intelligibly? Yours, Jon ObCD: The New Christs - _Born Out Of Time_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From chrisr at TIAC.NET Wed Feb 6 07:18:06 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:18:06 -0500 Subject: OFF: Terrastock 5 In-Reply-To: <00b601c1aed8$3aef1300$69a4e73f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: I plan on going to Terrastock. I have not been to one yet. I did not know about the one in Providence until it was over. Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Dan Witt Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:34 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Terrastock 5 Sure looks like a cool line up. Anybody here planning on going? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: OFF: Terrastock 5 > In case anyone's interested: > > > TERRASTOCK 5 - INTERNATIONAL MUSIC FESTIVAL COMING TO BOSTON AREA From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Wed Feb 6 07:49:16 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?=) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 12:49:16 +0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgSFc6IEVNSSBqZXdlbC1jYXNlIHJlbWFzdGVycw==?= Message-ID: Jon, Any idea which shop? ?6.99 for Space Ritual sounds like a great deal for somebody like me who hasn't got it on CD yet - couldn't afford the digi-pack issue at the time. Mark -- Mark Von-Bargen mark.von-bargen at genieone.co.uk - email ---- Jonathan Jarrett wrote: ---------------- Dear All, possibly bad news for the Kollectors among you here chaps. I dsicovered recently that my girlfirend had acquired herself a copy of the jewel-case version of _Space Ritual_ because it had been going for six quid in a shop near her. This is of course bad news in itself if like me you paid four times that for the digi-pak. but there's more. i inspected it to see how they'd laid out the booklet, and discovered that the answer was, very badly, by which I mean that the Moorcock story section was paginated out of order and indeed as far as I could tell there were two pages entirely missing. Is this usual, or was this one remaindered because its booklet was messed up? If the latter, I fear Mike Coleman may have to double-up his copy... Perhaps some of the people with jewel-case versions wouldn't mind seeing if the sentences in their booklets actually continue across the pages intelligibly? Yours, Jon ObCD: The New Christs - _Born Out Of Time_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) ---------------- __________________________________________________ Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Feb 6 07:52:15 2002 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (Dave Bottomley) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 12:52:15 -0000 Subject: HW: EMI jewel-case remasters Message-ID: Jon asked: >I dsicovered recently that my girlfirend had acquired herself a >copy of the jewel-case version of _Space Ritual_ because it had been going >for six quid in a shop near her. This is of course bad news in itself if >like me you paid four times that for the digi-pak. but there's more. i >inspected it to see how they'd laid out the booklet, and discovered that >the answer was, very badly, by which I mean that the Moorcock story >section was paginated out of order and indeed as far as I could tell there >were two pages entirely missing. Is this usual, or was this one >remaindered because its booklet was messed up? If the latter, I fear Mike >Coleman may have to double-up his copy... Perhaps some of the people with >jewel-case versions wouldn't mind seeing if the sentences in their >booklets actually continue across the pages intelligibly? My copy also has the pages out of sequence. I too paid ?5.99 & that seems to be a fairly common retail price for the jewel-case remasters (bar 1999 Party), so I doubt that it was reduced due to the booklet fiasco. Bargain price for great-sounding classic Hawkwind, though. And if it's any consolation (which, of course, it won't be!), I too paid 4x for the digi-pak. Dave From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 09:26:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:26:19 EST Subject: hawkwind - hey dewds - a WARRIOR question Message-ID: Is there anyway to distinguish a misspressed (sealed) Griffin CD by the box or CD cover I'm the somewhat disappointed owner of the misspress and I'm currently looking at scoring another one (which is also sealed) and don't want another frickin booby prize. So could some kind soul please help me here??? Regards Michael "Alien Dream" Blackman From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Feb 6 09:36:33 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:36:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Test Message-ID: Hello? Is this thing on? From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 10:02:36 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:02:36 EST Subject: OFF: Test Message-ID: In a message dated 7/02/02 1:07:59 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: > Hello? Is this thing on? > ......sssssscccccccccrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...... yes 8>) From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Wed Feb 6 12:29:40 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 12:29:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: MOTORHEAD - Best Of DVD Message-ID: Another DVD from Motorhead! This features the footage from the 1979 fake live video, 3 tracks with Robbo, several promos plus Killed By Death video. 15 tracks, no regional coding and a bargain at ?12.99 http://www.101cd.com/orev01.asp?title=6095575&s=1151 Full tracks are; Ace of Spades / Overkill / No Class / I Got MIne / Stay Clean / Iron Fist / Chase Is Better.. / Dead Men Tell No Tales / Shine / Capricorn / Poison (yes, really) / One Track Mind / Motorhead / Bomber / Killed By Death From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Feb 6 14:52:25 2002 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:52:25 -0600 Subject: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: Thought this could perhaps be a good topic of discussion - Personal; best of CD's that would fit on an 80 minute CD: Am trying to turn people on to HW, and using my CD and album collection that I bought, am putting together a compiliation to give people to turn them on to the wide variety of HW music. (I have purchased some compilations, but don't like all of the song choices...therefore, this is for newbies, and I think ethically, it's ok, because I'm not selling the music, and I do like the following list for my personal road travels.....Sort of a personal best of anyway in my first attempt includes (everyone has their favorites): 01 - Hurry On Sundown 02 - 5th Second of Forever 03 - Dust of Time 04 - Waiamea Drive 05 - Festivals 06 - Right to Decide 07 - Streets of Fear 08 - PXR5 09 - Fable of a Failed Race 10 - Psi Power 11 - Spirit of the Age 12- Kadu Flyer 13 - Chronoglide Skyway 14 - Dead Dreams 15 - Hassan I Shaba From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Feb 6 15:19:46 2002 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:19:46 -0000 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Message-ID: Hi, Yes Festivals refers a lot to the Brighton incident in 1990. There was also lots of other stuff going on at the time which successfully put paid to what was left of the free festival scene. It was me who wrote the lyrics of Festivals it was originally a poem on the back of the Palace Springs album. It was written as a release of emotions as the whole thing was very hard to cope with at the time. Dave found the poem and stuck it on the album. The full story will be told in part 2 of "Do Not Panic" which is underway as we speak........... :-) Best wishes Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: mark von bargen To: Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:32 PM Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Hi, Been a fan for more than 25 years now and there is now more that I don't know about this band than i ever knew in the first place. One question bugs me. Anybody know the story behind the words to FESTIVAL from the Alien4 album. If I remember correctly they were also printed on the cover of a previous album?! Its not as if theyr'e a bunch of words that were just thrown together. There must be a story and I get the gist that its something to do with hassles on the festival scene. Anybody know any more? Mark From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 6 15:28:23 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:28:23 -0000 Subject: hawkwind - hey dewds - a WARRIOR question Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman > Is there anyway to distinguish a misspressed (sealed) Griffin CD by the box > or CD cover Nope I'm afraid not. It is a genuine mispressing error with a normal Hawkwind cover. I guess the best thing would be to tell the supplier that there is a problem and ask them to check the CD out first. You'll lose the pristine sealed package but aren't you going to open it when it arrives anyhow? And I should think the supplier might be glad to know that there is a problem with his stock - in fact he might make more money by selling them as mis-pressings than he would otherwise! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Wed Feb 6 16:26:58 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (mark von bargen) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 21:26:58 -0000 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Message-ID: Hi Kris, Bad old news but good NEW news. Thanks for the definitive answer. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "XXX" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: Re: HW:Lyrics Question > Hi, > > Yes Festivals refers a lot to the Brighton incident in 1990. There was also > lots of other stuff going on at the time which successfully put paid to what > was left of the free festival scene. It was me who wrote the lyrics of > Festivals it was originally a poem on the back of the Palace Springs album. > It was written as a release of emotions as the whole thing was very hard to > cope with at the time. Dave found the poem and stuck it on the album. > The full story will be told in part 2 of "Do Not Panic" which is underway > as we speak........... :-) > > Best wishes > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mark von bargen > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:32 PM > Subject: HW:Lyrics Question > > > Hi, > > Been a fan for more than 25 years now and there is now more that I don't > know about this band than i ever knew in the first place. > > One question bugs me. Anybody know the story behind the words to FESTIVAL > from the Alien4 album. If I remember correctly they were also printed on the > cover of a previous album?! Its not as if theyr'e a bunch of words that were > just thrown together. There must be a story and I get the gist that its > something to do with hassles on the festival scene. Anybody know any more? > > Mark > From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Feb 6 17:24:46 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 16:24:46 -0600 Subject: HW: test Message-ID: Just a test of the HW filter for a friend. please ignore this message everyone else ;-) Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 6 17:24:26 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 22:24:26 +0000 Subject: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: how about: Phetamine Living on a knife edge Back in the Box Moonglum Dragons and Fables Down through the Night The Right stuff (I know it's Calverts) High rise That's before we start on the all time greatest >From: Tom Clark >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Homespun CD mixes >Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:52:25 -0600 > >Thought this could perhaps be a good topic of discussion - Personal; best >of >CD's that would fit on an 80 minute CD: > >Am trying to turn people on to HW, and using my CD and album collection >that >I bought, am putting together a compiliation to give people to turn them on >to the wide variety of HW music. (I have purchased some compilations, but >don't like all of the song choices...therefore, this is for newbies, and I >think ethically, it's ok, because I'm not selling the music, and I do like >the following list for my personal road travels.....Sort of a personal best >of anyway in my first attempt includes (everyone has their favorites): > >01 - Hurry On Sundown >02 - 5th Second of Forever >03 - Dust of Time >04 - Waiamea Drive >05 - Festivals >06 - Right to Decide >07 - Streets of Fear >08 - PXR5 >09 - Fable of a Failed Race >10 - Psi Power >11 - Spirit of the Age >12- Kadu Flyer > 13 - Chronoglide Skyway >14 - Dead Dreams > 15 - Hassan I Shaba _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 17:36:12 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:36:12 EST Subject: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: In a message dated 7/02/02 6:23:28 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: is there any space left for Xenomorph & Alien (I am)? :-) > the following list for my personal road travels.....Sort of a personal best > of anyway in my first attempt includes (everyone has their favorites): > > 01 - Hurry On Sundown > 02 - 5th Second of Forever > 03 - Dust of Time > 04 - Waiamea Drive > 05 - Festivals > 06 - Right to Decide > 07 - Streets of Fear > 08 - PXR5 > 09 - Fable of a Failed Race > 10 - Psi Power > 11 - Spirit of the Age > 12- Kadu Flyer > 13 - Chronoglide Skyway > 14 - Dead Dreams > 15 - Hassan I Shaba > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 17:39:11 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:39:11 EST Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Message-ID: In a message dated 7/02/02 6:52:01 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK writes: > Yes Festivals refers a lot to the Brighton incident in 1990. There was also > lots of other stuff going on at the time which successfully put paid to > what > was left of the free festival scene. It was me who wrote the lyrics of > Festivals it was originally a poem on the back of the Palace Springs > album. > It was written as a release of emotions as the whole thing was very hard to > cope with at the time. Dave found the poem and stuck it on the album. > The full story will be told in part 2 of "Do Not Panic" which is underway > as we speak........... :-) > > Thanks Kris - Eagerly awaiting the new book!!! Mb From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 17:41:56 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:41:56 EST Subject: hawkwind - hey dewds - a WARRIOR question Message-ID: In a message dated 7/02/02 7:04:07 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > arrives anyhow? And I should think the supplier might be glad to know > that there is a problem with his stock - in fact he might make more > money by selling them as mis-pressings than he would otherwise Hi Jill, Are the misspressings worth more as a collectable? If so I'll start the bidding now ... hehehe - so I can fund my next warrior purchase one day I'll get a goodie :-) From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Feb 6 17:56:11 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 06:56:11 +0800 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Message-ID: Hi Kris Is there going to be a re-release of your first book? I would love to get both as a set. Cheers Bill From drb.serendipity at NTLWORLD.COM Wed Feb 6 18:02:47 2002 From: drb.serendipity at NTLWORLD.COM (David Blair) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 23:02:47 +0000 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question In-Reply-To: <198.1f9b288.29930a8f@aol.com> Message-ID: In article <198.1f9b288.29930a8f at aol.com>, Michael W Blackman writes >In a message dated 7/02/02 6:52:01 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, >boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK writes: > > >> Yes Festivals refers a lot to the Brighton incident in 1990. There was also >> lots of other stuff going on at the time which successfully put paid to >> what >> was left of the free festival scene. It was me who wrote the lyrics of >> Festivals it was originally a poem on the back of the Palace Springs >> album. >> It was written as a release of emotions as the whole thing was very hard to >> cope with at the time. Dave found the poem and stuck it on the album. >> The full story will be told in part 2 of "Do Not Panic" which is underway >> as we speak........... :-) >> >> > >Thanks Kris - Eagerly awaiting the new book!!! I wouldn't mind a reissue of part one. -- David Blair From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Feb 6 18:53:34 2002 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:53:34 -0600 Subject: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: Wish there was room.....the excersise is to put together a compilation that flows in context both lyrycally and soundwise....all are great songs.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Graham" > how about: Phetamine > Living on a knife edge > Back in the Box > Moonglum > Dragons and Fables > Down through the Night > The Right stuff (I know it's Calverts) > High rise From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 6 19:40:10 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 03:40:10 +0300 Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: Hi > I received my copy of the new Starfield CD single "Insomniac" this morning > and have been playing it over and over again for the last hour or so. It > is a truly amazing work and deserves to be heard by everyone! The CD > features Captain Bl at ck, Danny Faulkner, Dillar and Richard Chadwick. I > believe that CD Services have it in stock; buy it or you will miss out on > an amazing piece of music. Does Richard play on all songs or only one as guest? Alisa From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Feb 6 19:47:27 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 00:47:27 -0000 Subject: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: Why not just give them Quark, Strangeness and Charm? Cheers, Rich. > > is there any space left for Xenomorph & Alien (I am)? :-) > > > > the following list for my personal road travels.....Sort of a personal best > > of anyway in my first attempt includes (everyone has their favorites): > > > > 01 - Hurry On Sundown > > 02 - 5th Second of Forever > > 03 - Dust of Time From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Wed Feb 6 19:58:09 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 00:58:09 -0000 Subject: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: OK. Fair choice. (Sensible head on now) Is this going to turn into a "What I'd put on for a newcomer" thread? If so... Urban Guerilla, Quark... Hurry... (but only if the person concerned is a Fairprt Convention fan) Fable... High Rise One track (your choice) from IITBOTFTBD The Watcher Zarozinia Motorhead Hassan.. Silver Machine And then do their head in completely with... Spirit of the Age. And then on the other side... Gil Blanco County Harvester of Eyes This Ain't The Summer Of Love Perfect Water The Red And The Black I'm on the Lamb... Dominance... ... you get the drift. :-) Cheers, Rich. (Whose twelve year old cat is called Zarozinia, and she does this really cute thing where if you scratch her at the base of her tail, she licks anything in sight. NO, NOT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING!!!!) > > 01 - Hurry On Sundown > 02 - 5th Second of Forever > 03 - Dust of Time > 04 - Waiamea Drive > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Feb 6 19:58:16 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 19:58:16 -0500 Subject: HW:Lyrics Question Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 02:48:32 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >... In the late >80s a new phenomenon emerged at the festivals, the so-called "Brew >Crew", nihilistic malevolent "fuck everything" crusties whose drugs of >choice were Special Brew and heroin and whose entertainment of choice >was often violent... > >Footnote to Doug- the song Festivals is not about the "Battle of the >Beanfield", although "Confrontation" on Out and Intake and ICU's >"Stonehenge Who Knows" both relate to that infamous episode. But >"Festivals" is about being attacked by your "own side" as it were, it may >be connected to the incident described above but in a broader way it's >about the loss of innocence of the festival scene, its burgeoning dark side >of hard drugs and violence and the loss of community spirit. Thanks for providing the details, Nick (and Kris!). What an ugly story! I found the interview where Dave was asked about "Festivals" (in 'Crohinga Well #13'), but the first half of his answer was all about the gov't/police/Thatcher politics/etc., and the second half just made a vague reference to something like "bad greedy people on heroin" (which must have been referring to this incident). >But thanks >for digging up all those links nonetheless, and I think the 'Festivals' >incident may be mentioned at at least one of those sites if you look hard >enough. I obviously didn't have time to go through all of them, but there definitely appeared to be a lot of info about Free Festival situations post- 85. It was really a shock when I received the set of clippings Brian Tawn (or was it Trev Hughes?) sent out with his 'zine later in '85 ... the incident had barely been covered in the US press, so I knew nothing about it until then ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 22:35:08 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 22:35:08 EST Subject: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: In a message dated 7/02/02 11:17:35 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > Why not just give them Quark, Strangeness and Charm? > > Cheers, > > Rich. > I wouldn't say no ;-) It would be wonderful to see some reissues of such great albums as Warrior & Quark etc - From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 6 22:39:25 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 22:39:25 EST Subject: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: In a message dated 7/02/02 11:29:15 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > (Whose twelve year old cat is called Zarozinia, and she does this really > cute thing where if you scratch her at the base of her tail, she licks > anything in sight. NO, NOT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING!!!!) > the base or the tip - that sounds potentially tricky - rubber gloves on standby? ;-) could be a great way to get those crusty dishes cleaned with ease, tho.... From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 7 03:37:17 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin J Allen) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:37:17 -0000 Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: There is only one song and I am not sure if he plays on everything on the forthcoming album. I will ask Keith. Regards, COLIN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: Re: HW: Starfield > Hi > > > I received my copy of the new Starfield CD single "Insomniac" this morning > > and have been playing it over and over again for the last hour or so. It > > is a truly amazing work and deserves to be heard by everyone! The CD > > features Captain Bl at ck, Danny Faulkner, Dillar and Richard Chadwick. I > > believe that CD Services have it in stock; buy it or you will miss out on > > an amazing piece of music. > > Does Richard play on all songs or only one as guest? > > Alisa > From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Feb 7 04:24:27 2002 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 02:24:27 -0700 Subject: Homespun CD mixes In-Reply-To: <002e01c1af47$cd16d910$13654c42@59zqx01> Message-ID: This might be cheating (yeah, it probably is), but I made a CD-R which I like to loan out...it's called "In Dreams" and it's 82 minutes, and it cheats a bit since it's not all (precisely) Hawkwind....but it is a great cross-section of many of the various styles I love..... 1 - You Know You're Only Dreaming 2 - Down Through The Night 3 - The Dream Of Isis 4 - Dude's Dream 5 - The Iron Dream 6 - (Only) The Dead Dreams Of The Cold War Kid 7 - The Dream (parts 1 & 2) 8 - Dream Worker 9 - Dream Dancers 10 - Machine Dreams 11 - Sleep Of 1000 Tears 12 - Dreaming City 13 - Empty Dreams 14 - Wastelands Of Sleep 15 - Ship Of Dreams 16 - An Integrated Smart Dream 17 - Pipe Dreams 18 - Dreams Of Cydonia 19 - Forest Of Dreams 20 - Dreamers KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Tom Clark > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 12:52 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Homespun CD mixes > > > Thought this could perhaps be a good topic of discussion - > Personal; best of > CD's that would fit on an 80 minute CD: > > Am trying to turn people on to HW, and using my CD and album > collection that > I bought, am putting together a compiliation to give people to > turn them on > to the wide variety of HW music. (I have purchased some compilations, but > don't like all of the song choices...therefore, this is for newbies, and I > think ethically, it's ok, because I'm not selling the music, and I do like > the following list for my personal road travels.....Sort of a > personal best > of anyway in my first attempt includes (everyone has their favorites): > > 01 - Hurry On Sundown > 02 - 5th Second of Forever > 03 - Dust of Time > 04 - Waiamea Drive > 05 - Festivals > 06 - Right to Decide > 07 - Streets of Fear > 08 - PXR5 > 09 - Fable of a Failed Race > 10 - Psi Power > 11 - Spirit of the Age > 12- Kadu Flyer > 13 - Chronoglide Skyway > 14 - Dead Dreams > 15 - Hassan I Shaba From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 7 05:00:12 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 05:00:12 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bardo Pond Tour US Message-ID: Hi Folks... Worth a look/listen...Grakkl (FAA) US Tour... Bardo Pond with Fursaxa monday 04 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop tuesday 05 Chicago, IL Empty Bottle wednesday 06 St. Louis, MO Rocketbar thursday 07 Lawrence, KS Replay Lounge friday 08 Denver, CO 15th Street Tavern saturday 09 Salt Lake City, UT Kilby Court monday 11 Portland, OR The Blackbird tuesday 12 Seattle, WA Crocodile Cafe thursday 14 San Francisco, CA Bottom of the Hill friday 15 Los Angeles, CA Ackerman Grand Ballroom, UCLA monday 18 San Diego, CA Casbah tuesday 19 Phoenix, AZ Modified thursday 21 Austin, TX The Mercury at Jazz friday 22 Dallas, TX Gypsy Tea Room saturday 23 Fayetteville, AR Clunk Music Hall monday 25 Pittsburgh, PA The Brew House tuesday 26 Rochester, NY Bug Jar wednesday 27 Cambridge, MA Middle East Upstairs thursday 28 New York, NY Mercury Lounge friday 29 Philadelphia, PA The Khyber From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 7 05:21:17 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 05:21:17 -0500 Subject: HW: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: Like Kevin, I have my own 'promo' package to present to those that ask... >This might be cheating (yeah, it probably is), but I made a CD-R which I >like to loan out...it's called "In Dreams" and it's 82 minutes, and it >cheats a bit since it's not all (precisely) Hawkwind....but it is a great >cross-section of many of the various styles I love..... My criteria was coverage of all important lineups and getting as many different vocalists/voices, and styles of instrumental works as I could. And not at all for coherent flow! Hawkwind, Pt. I: 1. Mirror Of Illusion (7:04) 2. Down Through the Night (3:04) 3. Lord of Light (7:21) 4. Urban Guerilla (3:41) 5. D-Rider (6:15) 6. Motorhead (3:02) 7. Assault & Battery (5:36) 8. The Golden Void (4:32) 9. Warriors (2:03) 10. Kadu Flyer (5:07) 11. Damnation Alley (9:08) 12. Infinity (4:16) 13. Lighthouse (6:25) 14. Motorway City (6:44) Hawkwind, Pt. II: 1. Sonic Attack (4:45) 2. Waiting for Tomorrow (3:44) 3. Fall of Earth City (3:24) 4. Dangerous Visions (5:05) 5. Sleep of 1000 Tears (4:37) 6. Heads (3:52) 7. Images (9:33) 8. TV Suicide (5:21) 9. Treadmill (8:07) 10. Garden Pests (2:07) 11. Right to Decide (4:19) 12. The Camera that Could Lie (4:56) 13. LSD (5:38) 14. Kauai (2:49) 15. Alchemy (2:42) 16. Hippy (5:45) >> 01 - Hurry On Sundown >> 02 - 5th Second of Forever >> 03 - Dust of Time >> 04 - Waiamea Drive >> 05 - Festivals >> 06 - Right to Decide >> 07 - Streets of Fear >> 08 - PXR5 >> 09 - Fable of a Failed Race >> 10 - Psi Power >> 11 - Spirit of the Age >> 12- Kadu Flyer >> 13 - Chronoglide Skyway >> 14 - Dead Dreams >> 15 - Hassan I Shaba Interesting Lemmy-free (and nearly Nik-free) set of tunes. Grakkl (FAA), who is now listening to an analogous 2CD history by the Legendary Pink Dots that some of you might be receiving in a very short time. Enjoy. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 7 05:21:55 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 05:21:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bardo Pond Tour US Message-ID: Hi again... >Worth a look/listen...Grakkl (FAA) > >US Tour... Um...March dates!!! >Bardo Pond with Fursaxa >monday 04 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop >tuesday 05 Chicago, IL Empty Bottle >wednesday 06 St. Louis, MO Rocketbar >thursday 07 Lawrence, KS Replay Lounge >friday 08 Denver, CO 15th Street Tavern >saturday 09 Salt Lake City, UT Kilby Court >monday 11 Portland, OR The Blackbird >tuesday 12 Seattle, WA Crocodile Cafe >thursday 14 San Francisco, CA Bottom of the Hill >friday 15 Los Angeles, CA Ackerman Grand Ballroom, UCLA >monday 18 San Diego, CA Casbah >tuesday 19 Phoenix, AZ Modified >thursday 21 Austin, TX The Mercury at Jazz >friday 22 Dallas, TX Gypsy Tea Room >saturday 23 Fayetteville, AR Clunk Music Hall >monday 25 Pittsburgh, PA The Brew House >tuesday 26 Rochester, NY Bug Jar >wednesday 27 Cambridge, MA Middle East Upstairs >thursday 28 New York, NY Mercury Lounge >friday 29 Philadelphia, PA The Khyber From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 7 07:08:41 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:08:41 +0000 Subject: NIK: ICU Xmas Party In-Reply-To: <4uoc2ugbc0cln9ppsuoitis633pjp53l77@4ax.com>; from Steve@DOREMI.CO.UK on Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 11:20:09PM +0000 Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 11:20:09PM +0000, Steve Pond typed out: > > Jons review was interesting, bye & large I agree with it, altho there are some > glaring inaccuracies.. :) we did play Skinheads in Leningrad (in the loo > Jon?) and the "No Limits" style song I sang near the end was an ironic rocking > version of Kylie Minogues super giant number one for weeks & weeks hit single > "Can't get you out of my head".. which translates to a 2 chord thrash rather > nicely methinks. :) (demo version I made for ther band to learn here: > http://208.50.7.128/mp3/cant_get_you_out_of_my_head__steve_pond.mp3) Glaring innaccuracy should be my middle name, only there's already one there :-) Having only heard `Skinheads' the once before I thought I could recognise it but I was obviously wrong. What? Haven't I got _The Maximum Effect_ yet? Well, no, but peace, it will happen music has to be budgeted for even on fat-cat state Ph.D. funding. As for Kylie's song, yeah, I actually heard it a few weeks later, had missed it up till then. I gave up listening to the radio in something like 1998 you see, because there wasn't any station that didn't make me want to switch off within three tracks. Pop kind of passes me by. I got a grip on it when kylie was first having No 1s after all :-) > Regarding "Dumbing Down" to the drummer, I agree Dino is *very* different from > Mick Stupp, but he's just as fast a drummer, & he swings more, but Stupp > definitely had a stronger personality & often led from the back, but he's > swapped drums for the guitar & we already have 2 of those, so.. What did he want to do that for? He was a good drummer... No, I'm sure Dino is an equally good drummer in a different way because people who saw him last time round have told me so, but the two shows I've seen him at he gave me a strong impression of being unable to keep up. It may just be that I'm expecting to hear something different, but on songs like `World of lSD' it makes a difference that the kit isn't being really walloped. > I`ve sent Dino a CD with the bits he's unfamiliar with on, so maybe he'll be > more to your liking next time.. It ought to enable me to work out whether the problem is mine alone or not, anyway :-) Sorry to be so down on him. > The band "feels" very much like ICU to me, I wouldn`t be in it if it didn`t, > there was a time during the 1st day of rehearsals back in October when I was > desperately thinking of escape excuses, but luckily things "clicked" and we're > back in the saddle again.. don`t expect the set to be composed of "oldies" for > much longer.. :) When's it coming out then? :-) Yours, Jon ObCD-R: Spiritual Beggars - _Mantra III_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 7 07:22:22 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:22:22 +0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. In-Reply-To: <178.13d59fe.2957da8e@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 08:10:38PM -0500 Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 08:10:38PM -0500, DASLUD at AOL.COM typed out: > AOL uses IE, which on my machine is the 'default browser'... Discovered yesterday that my College have rather clumsily deleted IE frim all their machines suddenly, no idea why... > > Earlier this year, Netscape made much noise about their Netscape 6, but there > were problems, such as the screen suddenly (and frequently) going black while > browsing, requiring a restart...nnnggghhh > I have their mail hyping Netscape 6.1, but havent gone to get it... I've heard nothing good about any version of 6 and the general opinion of Netscape among Microsoft-hating geeks i know is that while they'd love to use Netscape it just isn't as good as IE, indeed, in the case of 6 it's actually bad. > Now I'm using 4.6, as it was in the machine just then. Except at home, so am I. It does. > Did y'all ever consider getting the Opera browser?...Said to be very fast.... Tried the 3.1 version (4) but it wouldn't run properly, some corruption of libraries issue which I didn't have time to solve; will at some point see if the new version runs under this OS but yes, I've heard that it is super-quick but that it doesn't quite do everything. Anything outside the two giants (apart from NCSA Mosaic I should say) looks good to me though. Yours, Jon -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Feb 7 07:53:35 2002 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:53:35 -0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: I missed this conversation up 'til now. Q: Are you using a Mac? Opera 5 is now availble for the Mac and it's really very nice HOWEVER Opera 6 is out for the PC and it is fantastic. It will create HTTP headers imitating various Netscape and IE incarnations if a site needs fooled into working, but in general it is fantastic, with a great configurable front-end. I've been using it in work and at home for about a month now and I won't go back. C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Jarrett" > > > Did y'all ever consider getting the Opera browser?...Said to be very fast.... > > Tried the 3.1 version (4) but it wouldn't run properly, some > corruption of libraries issue which I didn't have time to solve; will at > some point see if the new version runs under this OS but yes, I've heard > that it is super-quick but that it doesn't quite do everything. Anything > outside the two giants (apart from NCSA Mosaic I should say) looks good to > me though. Yours, > Jon > > -- > Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -------------------------------------------------------- > "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) > From dave at CRAZY-DAVE.NET Thu Feb 7 07:56:34 2002 From: dave at CRAZY-DAVE.NET (Dave Briggs) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 07:56:34 -0500 Subject: NIK: ICU Xmas Party Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:08:41 +0000, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >Having only heard `Skinheads' the once before I thought I >could recognise it but I was obviously wrong. What? Haven't I got _The >Maximum Effect_ yet? Well, no, but peace, it will happen music has to be >budgeted for even on fat-cat state Ph.D. funding. As for Kylie's song, Hi John, If you go to Steve's ICU Site at http://208.50.7.128/icu/ you can download the VERY EXCELENT Maximum Effect in MP3 format. It's by far the best album. So now you got no excuses for not knowing all the words to Skinheads in Lenningrad :-) Regards Dave Briggs - Silver Machine Webmaster http://www.silvermachine.net From micci at SCI.FI Thu Feb 7 10:04:18 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:04:18 +0200 Subject: HW:Turner/Garcia Message-ID: Hi! When Nik Turner was here, he told that he met Jerry Garcia once. Question is where and when? Can anyone give me more information. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From novadrive at HOME.COM Thu Feb 7 10:06:25 2002 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:06:25 -0700 Subject: Bardo Pond Tour US In-Reply-To: <200202071019.FAA10673@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: And the month? KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of K Henderson > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:00 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Bardo Pond Tour US > > > Hi Folks... > > Worth a look/listen...Grakkl (FAA) > > US Tour... > Bardo Pond with Fursaxa > monday 04 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop > tuesday 05 Chicago, IL Empty Bottle > wednesday 06 St. Louis, MO Rocketbar > thursday 07 Lawrence, KS Replay Lounge > friday 08 Denver, CO 15th Street Tavern > saturday 09 Salt Lake City, UT Kilby Court > monday 11 Portland, OR The Blackbird > tuesday 12 Seattle, WA Crocodile Cafe > thursday 14 San Francisco, CA Bottom of the Hill > friday 15 Los Angeles, CA Ackerman Grand Ballroom, UCLA > monday 18 San Diego, CA Casbah > tuesday 19 Phoenix, AZ Modified > thursday 21 Austin, TX The Mercury at Jazz > friday 22 Dallas, TX Gypsy Tea Room > saturday 23 Fayetteville, AR Clunk Music Hall > monday 25 Pittsburgh, PA The Brew House > tuesday 26 Rochester, NY Bug Jar > wednesday 27 Cambridge, MA Middle East Upstairs > thursday 28 New York, NY Mercury Lounge > friday 29 Philadelphia, PA The Khyber From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Thu Feb 7 10:20:34 2002 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (Guido Vacano) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 08:20:34 -0700 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: I heartily agree. I've known about Opera for a long time, but I didn't really start using it heavily until I started having problems with IE at home, which is now uninstallable, for some reason (It gets to 96%, then gives up the ghost :-P). It's fast, it has a "small footprint", it has features I actually use. IMHO, Netscape 6.2 isn't bad, but it isn't as good as Opera. Chris Allen wrote: >I missed this conversation up 'til now. >Q: Are you using a Mac? >Opera 5 is now availble for the Mac and it's really very nice HOWEVER Opera >6 is out for the PC and it is fantastic. It will create HTTP headers >imitating various Netscape and IE incarnations if a site needs fooled into >working, but in general it is fantastic, with a great configurable >front-end. I've been using it in work and at home for about a month now and >I won't go back. > >C. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jonathan Jarrett" > >>>Did y'all ever consider getting the Opera browser?...Said to be very >>> >fast.... > >> Tried the 3.1 version (4) but it wouldn't run properly, some >>corruption of libraries issue which I didn't have time to solve; will at >>some point see if the new version runs under this OS but yes, I've heard >>that it is super-quick but that it doesn't quite do everything. Anything >>outside the two giants (apart from NCSA Mosaic I should say) looks good to >>me though. Yours, >> Jon >> >>-- >> Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London >> jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) >> > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 7 15:18:46 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:18:46 -0500 Subject: OFF: Farflung Message-ID: Chuck said... >Tommy G e-mailed and said there are two FF discs coming out: > >1.When Science Fails, a "soundtrack", will be released "this week" >(Falcata-Galia, I assume) I heard from Tommy as well, and I hope he doesn't mind me passing this along. WSF is a concept record which was intended and is also used as a soundtrack. A german movie, [under wraps] used most of it. More on that later. This album may therefore be a little different and more ambient than other 'flung albums but this was the intention. We wanted to do a purely improvised LP from the heart to compliment certain images and moods. We are very happy to have achieved that, and thanks to Falcatta/Transparency, we are constantly trying and challenging space musics boundaries and attempting to explore more uncharted regions of our minds. >2.Prototype of a Traveller, on Brainticket, "in two months time", the >"space-rock album"... (Myth of Solid Ground??) Tommy says... It is yet to be titled, but will feature a compendulum [sic] of old and new unreleased recordings ect. This is a space slammer for the diehards, and we think its the best yet [along with Science of course]. Sounds like it might be a mixture of material from Myth with perhaps some other things we haven't heard? I can only guess. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. He also mentions touring Europe in June with the Earthlings, who are a relation of the Kyuss/Fu Manchu/Desert Sessions community. A more adventurous entity than the usual stoner rock outfit though. I quite like them. P.P.S. Rudy (Falcata-Galia) tells me that the WSF discs came in this past weekend (and he thinks they came out great), so I imagine that we should start to see them come down the pipeline shortly. He's still hoping to get that Borders distribution thing going, which would hopefully mean that they'd go into the Amazon.com system, since I notice that Borders' web address goes directly to them. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 7 16:05:56 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 21:05:56 -0000 Subject: hawkwind - hey dewds - a WARRIOR question Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael W Blackman > Hi Jill, > > Are the misspressings worth more as a collectable? > If so I'll start the bidding now ... hehehe - so I can fund my next warrior > purchase > one day I'll get a goodie :-) Yes. But only to a Kollector! And that's the problem. I would certainly have paid you well for it if I didn't have one already but there must be other deprived (depraved?) folk such as me trying to hunt one down. Unfortunately it's a question of finding them and you may need to advertise it around a bit. I'm also not sure how many of these particular mis-pressings there are. I've probably heard of about a dozen which is a reasonably high figure for just casual mentions. jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 7 17:56:45 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:56:45 EST Subject: HW: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: In a message dated 7/02/02 9:11:14 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > Like Kevin, I have my own 'promo' package to present to those that ask... > > I, too, have a collection - a 4 cd set of favourites - and I'll be bugeered if its not enough to showcase ALL my favourites..... From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 7 18:36:07 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 07:36:07 +0800 Subject: HW: Homespun CD mixes Message-ID: I did one up a few months ago as mp3's. Something like 133 songs off 35 albums. A good cross-section of what HW's been up to in the last 30+ years. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:56 AM Subject: Re: HW: Homespun CD mixes > In a message dated 7/02/02 9:11:14 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > > > Like Kevin, I have my own 'promo' package to present to those that ask... > > > > > > I, too, have a collection - a 4 cd set of favourites - and I'll be bugeered > if its not enough to showcase ALL my favourites..... > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Feb 7 18:54:48 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:54:48 -0000 Subject: Browsers are a big pile of ****. Message-ID: > > AOL uses IE, which on my machine is the 'default browser'... AOL? That's a virus isn't it? Delivery method - through the letterbox. How it works - people put it in the CD drive. It then proceeds to f*** up the host machine completely. Ironic that AOL use a version of IE as their default browser, given that they own Nutscrape. > > Discovered yesterday that my College have rather clumsily deleted > IE frim all their machines suddenly, no idea why... > > > > Earlier this year, Netscape made much noise about their Netscape 6, but there > > were problems, such as the screen suddenly (and frequently) going black while > > browsing, requiring a restart...nnnggghhh > > I have their mail hyping Netscape 6.1, but havent gone to get it... > > I've heard nothing good about any version of 6 and the general > opinion of Netscape among Microsoft-hating geeks i know is that while > they'd love to use Netscape it just isn't as good as IE, indeed, in the > case of 6 it's actually bad. A client-side developer speaks: While NS6 isn't actually *bad*, the main problem with it is that it isn't backwardly compatable. Ie (ha), if you've got a nice website that sniffs browsers and then, if your user is using Netscape, you have JavaScript write out different code (LAYER tags and the like), Netscape 6 will be detected as "Netsacpe", LAYER tags will be written out, and Netscape 6 will say "What the hell are these, they're non-standard, I don't understand them, I know, I'll just break." > > > Now I'm using 4.6, as it was in the machine just then. > > Except at home, so am I. It does. > > > Did y'all ever consider getting the Opera browser?...Said to be very fast.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Chortle, snurrffff.... Sorry, 'scuse me. > > Tried the 3.1 version (4) but it wouldn't run properly, some > corruption of libraries issue which I didn't have time to solve; will at > some point see if the new version runs under this OS but yes, I've heard > that it is super-quick but that it doesn't quite do everything. Anything > outside the two giants (apart from NCSA Mosaic I should say) looks good to > me though. Yours, > Jon As a "Not A Fan Of Microsoft's Evil Business Practices", it pains me to say it, but IE6 (on a PC anyway) is a fantastic, reliable, working browser. The sooner people stop using anything else, the sooner the world will be a far friendlier place. (I've been working down at Sony for the last week, having to rebuild an intranet from scratch, as it didn't work with any other browser than IE6 on PC. All the code SHOULD have worked - but it didn't. For example, did you know that NS 4.x (and I think 6) doesn't support HEIGHT in a stylesheet?). You get to loathe browsers after about, ooh, five seconds.) Rant over. Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Feb 7 18:56:54 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:56:54 -0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: > I missed this conversation up 'til now. > Q: Are you using a Mac? > Opera 5 is now availble for the Mac and it's really very nice HOWEVER Opera > 6 is out for the PC and it is fantastic. It will create HTTP headers > imitating various Netscape and IE incarnations if a site needs fooled into > working, Which is fine if a site uses poor browser detection. Any site worth its salt should be able to pick up Opera straight away. > but in general it is fantastic, with a great configurable > front-end. I've been using it in work and at home for about a month now and > I won't go back. > Really? Why not? Do you really want a browser that *doesn't work*? Curious. Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Feb 7 18:59:09 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 23:59:09 -0000 Subject: OFF: Deviant sexual practices Message-ID: > and I'll be bugeered Hmm. What exactly does that involve then? :-) Cheers, Rich From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 7 13:41:58 2002 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:41:58 -0000 Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: there is only one song - that's why it's effectively only ?1.99 retail. But WHAT A SONG!!!!!!!!! Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: Re: HW: Starfield > Hi > > > I received my copy of the new Starfield CD single "Insomniac" this morning > > and have been playing it over and over again for the last hour or so. It > > is a truly amazing work and deserves to be heard by everyone! The CD > > features Captain Bl at ck, Danny Faulkner, Dillar and Richard Chadwick. I > > believe that CD Services have it in stock; buy it or you will miss out on > > an amazing piece of music. > > Does Richard play on all songs or only one as guest? > > Alisa From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 7 13:51:40 2002 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:51:40 -0000 Subject: HW: EMI jewel-case remasters Message-ID: Bizarrely enough all these cheap copies of the EMI jewel case remasters are either imports (long story) or chains taking advnatage of substantial EMI bulk discounts - either way, the customer wins............... Andy G. shortly to move completely to: deadearnest at btopenworld.com ==================== > My copy also has the pages out of sequence. I too paid ?5.99 & that seems to > be a fairly common retail price for the jewel-case remasters (bar 1999 > Party), so I doubt that it was reduced due to the booklet fiasco. Bargain > price for great-sounding classic Hawkwind, though. And if it's any > consolation (which, of course, it won't be!), I too paid 4x for the > digi-pak. > > Dave From nycademon at ATTBI.COM Thu Feb 7 19:23:35 2002 From: nycademon at ATTBI.COM (nycademon at ATTBI.COM) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 00:23:35 +0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: Richard sez-- > > I missed this conversation up 'til now. > > Q: Are you using a Mac? > > Opera 5 is now availble for the Mac and it's really very nice HOWEVER > Opera > > 6 is out for the PC and it is fantastic. It will create HTTP headers > > imitating various Netscape and IE incarnations if a site needs fooled into > > working, > > Which is fine if a site uses poor browser detection. Any site worth its > salt should be able to pick up Opera straight away. Any site worth its salt should work fine under Opera (having said that, I need to fix one of mine :-) ). > > > but in general it is fantastic, with a great configurable > > front-end. I've been using it in work and at home for about a month now > and > > I won't go back. > > > > Really? Why not? Do you really want a browser that *doesn't work*? You've said this before, but unfortunately, I don't remember your explanation. If by "doesn't work", you're referring to DOM support, or proprietary tag support, I don't really give a damn about either one. It works just fine, thanks (more specifically, it works better for me than IE 6.0, or Netscape 6.2). Guido From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 7 19:31:02 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:31:02 +0800 Subject: OFF: Deviant sexual practices Message-ID: I think it involves "several furry little animals huddled together in a cave grooving with Michael Blackman." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:59 AM Subject: OFF: Deviant sexual practices > > and I'll be bugeered > > Hmm. What exactly does that involve then? > > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Feb 7 19:32:10 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 00:32:10 -0000 Subject: OFF: Deviant sexual practices Message-ID: And Roger Waters no doubt... :-) R. > I think it involves "several furry little animals huddled together in a cave > grooving with Michael Blackman." > > > > > and I'll be bugeered > > > > Hmm. What exactly does that involve then? > > > > > > :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich > > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Thu Feb 7 19:38:46 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 00:38:46 -0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: > Any site worth its salt should work fine under Opera (having said that, I need to fix one of mine :-) ). Rewrite whizzy code for one percent of browsers? No thanks. > > > > > but in general it is fantastic, with a great configurable > > > front-end. I've been using it in work and at home for about a month now > > and > > > I won't go back. > > > > > > > Really? Why not? Do you really want a browser that *doesn't work*? > > You've said this before, but unfortunately, I don't remember your explanation. If by "doesn't work", you're referring to DOM support, or proprietary tag support, I don't really give a damn about either one. CSS support for starters. It's a lot better than it used to be, but having had to fix sites so they work reasonably well on Opera, it's still not good. Don't get me wrong, I love the *idea* of Opera - just the implementation isn't great. Yet. I'm sure it will be. Prop. tags were what did for Netscape - not Microsoft's evil business practices. The day all browsers support the same stuff is the day I'll be happy. Or, the day we all use one browser. However, fat, ugly, bald Java developers will tell you that none of this matters and they can do your job better than you can. > > It works just fine, thanks (more specifically, it works better for me than IE 6.0, or Netscape 6.2). Netscape I believe, I'd be surprised about IE though. (Are you running a Windows system?) Cheers, R. From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Thu Feb 7 19:56:19 2002 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:56:19 +1000 Subject: OFF: This year's RnRHoF inductees In-Reply-To: <001001c1aef1$3ac317a0$8e5d2dcb@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: At 20:32 6/02/02 +1100, you wrote: >Brenda Lees is no rock and roller either. > The radio's playing some forgotten song Brenda Lee's "Comin' on Strong" The road has got me hypnotised And I'm speeding into a new sunrise Golden Earring - Radar Love Pete surprised noone beat me to this :) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 7 20:04:09 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:04:09 EST Subject: Browsers are a big pile of ****. Message-ID: In a message dated 8/02/02 10:25:26 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > AOL? That's a virus isn't it? Delivery method - through the letterbox. > How it works - people put it in the CD drive. It then proceeds to f*** up > the host machine completely. > I believe so - my puter has gotten so bad since AOL software installation I am going to reformat my hard drive - defrag has helped none at all > Ironic that AOL use a version of IE as their default browser, given that > they own Nutscrape. > Between AOL - IE - and "Nutscrape" (hehe) I like Netscape the best - images always come up bright and vibrant and have had no problems IE - often the images look "scabby" AOL - frequently sections of an image don't load - have to reload a couple of times - and the image quality almost always is reduced considerably and I am running a fairly decent system - p3 550 | 256Mb SDRam | and the hard drive is fairly fast at 10,000 rpm | and all the other nifty bits and peeices that go with it From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 7 20:05:47 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:05:47 EST Subject: OFF: Deviant sexual practices Message-ID: In a message dated 8/02/02 10:29:26 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > Hmm. What exactly does that involve then? > > > :-) > tube of super glue and several gerbils ;-) p'ingMsl From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 7 20:08:39 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:08:39 EST Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: In a message dated 8/02/02 10:47:43 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM writes: > there is only one song - that's why it's effectively only ?1.99 retail. > But WHAT A SONG!!!!!!!!! > If it is comparable to the material on "Return To Earth" then I wan't it!!!!!!! If it is better - then - I cannot wait to hear it!!!!! Order going in the post today :) Mb From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 7 20:13:03 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:13:03 EST Subject: OFF: Deviant sexual practices Message-ID: In a message dated 8/02/02 10:58:51 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU writes: > I think it involves "several furry little animals huddled together in a cave > grooving with Michael Blackman." > a blonde, a brunette and a red head thank you (hehehe) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 7 20:22:59 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:22:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Deviant sexual practices In-Reply-To: <12b801c1b033$713fc5b0$434023d9@bernard>; from rich@BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK on Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 11:59:09PM -0000 Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 11:59:09PM -0000, Richard Lockwood wrote: > > and I'll be bugeered > > Hmm. What exactly does that involve then? What they tried to do to ... um, Chekov, wasn't it? ... in "Wrath of Khan". -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / One ring to rule the mall. - Movie review headline, eye Magazine From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Feb 7 22:02:08 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:02:08 -0500 Subject: HW: EMI jewel-case remasters Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:51:40 -0000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >Bizarrely enough all these cheap copies of the EMI jewel case remasters are >either imports (long story) ... any chance of the full story when you get the chance? >or chains taking advnatage of substantial EMI >bulk discounts - either way, the customer wins............... Neither of these explains why they're so cheap (around $12-$13 - same as domestic CD's) in the USA (where they're NOT manufactured), even from (larger, such as Amoeba) independent stores that presumably wouldn't be getting EMI bulk discounts. Needless to say, I'm not complaining! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 05:23:02 2002 From: colin at CALLEN18.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Colin Allen) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 05:23:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: Forget Return to Earth; think Hawkwind meets Porcupine Tree and Pink Floyd in a mad scientist's lab and they merge into a band that produces what is possibly one of the best tracks that I have ever heard (not quite as good as Lord of Light or The Haemmorhoid Shuffle but the first of those is the best track ever written and I wrote the second). COLIN From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Feb 8 05:47:07 2002 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:47:07 -0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" > > It will create HTTP headers > > imitating various Netscape and IE incarnations if a site needs fooled into > > working, > > Which is fine if a site uses poor browser detection. Any site worth its > salt should be able to pick up Opera straight away. In the month I've been using it I've encountered 1 site that hasn't functioned on Opera. And I'm not gonna spend time on a site that hasn't been built to a decent standard of HMTL, there are many other sites offering the same services that do work. GS Resources, for example, doesn't work with IE pre-version 5 (*obsolete browser* ahem?) but works perfectly with Opera 6. > > but in general it is fantastic, with a great configurable > > front-end. I've been using it in work and at home for about a month now > and > > I won't go back. > > > > Really? Why not? Do you really want a browser that *doesn't work*? Doesn't work? For that very reason I stopped using IE. I'm a programmer specializing in web-apps, so I need a browser that works to the standards, hence my choice. Opera 6 is faster than IE handles stylesheets consistently and has features that I use. Again, I'm not about to blame the browser software for the sloppy HTML coding on someone's site or for Microsoft's inability to adhere to standards, even between their own software range... C. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 05:46:00 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:46:00 -0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: > > > > Really? Why not? Do you really want a browser that *doesn't work*? > > Doesn't work? For that very reason I stopped using IE. I'm a programmer > specializing in web-apps, so I need a browser that works to the standards, > hence my choice. Opera 6 is faster than IE handles stylesheets consistently > and has features that I use. Again, I'm not about to blame the browser > software for the sloppy HTML coding on someone's site or for Microsoft's > inability to adhere to standards, even between their own software range... > Ah well. Each to their own I suppose. :-) Cheers, Rich. From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Fri Feb 8 05:52:23 2002 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:52:23 +0100 Subject: OFF Re: Browsers are a big pile of **** ...the solution. Message-ID: Download Opera at http://www.opera.com Install the little file, no need to restart (your mac, linux or even pc), smile and surf the web faster than ever before! cheers, ketil From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Feb 8 08:14:09 2002 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:14:09 -0500 Subject: BOC: Quicklime Girl Message-ID: For a little bit of BOC news... The band has recently added Quicklime Girl (aka Mistress of the Salmon Salt) to the setlist. Also, a recent setlist included Perfect Water. Check your calendars, it is NOT April 1st :-) John From oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET Fri Feb 8 08:21:25 2002 From: oystrgal at BELLSOUTH.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:21:25 -0500 Subject: BOC: Quicklime Girl Message-ID: > The band has recently added Quicklime Girl (aka Mistress > of the Salmon Salt) to the setlist. Now that is something I never expected to hear live. *rushes to the site to see how long before they are within travelling distance again* -- Jean Lansford oystrgal at bellsouth.net From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 8 07:36:16 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:36:16 EDT Subject: BOC: Quicklime Girl In-Reply-To: <3C63CF21.6AAE7420@mitre.org> Message-ID: On 8 Feb 2002, at 8:14, John A. Swartz wrote: > For a little bit of BOC news... > > The band has recently added Quicklime Girl (aka Mistress of the Salmon > Salt) to the setlist. > Wow! Great news. Imaging getting Teen Archer and QG in the same show? > Also, a recent setlist included Perfect Water. > Hmm...a step forward and a step back. Actually, I've always liked PW, despite howling protests from the august company here. Only unpalatable part is the Jacques Cousteau reference, IMO... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 8 10:53:55 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:53:55 +0000 Subject: OFF: RE: HW: Mission Control: New Orders In-Reply-To: <007901c18c5c$0f0748a0$1ca4e73f@m8v3c0>; from Warren_Oates@MSN.COM on Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 03:19:15AM -0600 Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 03:19:15AM -0600, Dan Witt typed out: > > I'm stuck with Netscape 3 Gold, Keith, so think yourself not too > > Luddite. Why am I stuck with it? Because my computer runs Windows 3.1 with > > a 32-bit patch, has only 8 Mb of memory and very little hard disk. All > > these things but the OS will shortly be changing and then I might be able > > to do Netscape 4. For the meantime, I can read Mission Control all right > > but it's painfully slow. Many things are though. And there are Javascript > > errors because I only have Javascript 1.1 which won't swallow many > > bugs. So for me, Dan, browser updates aren't free because they mean > > hardware updates too. Sorry to burst the hypermation intersoupway > > bubble there. > > That's fine. You can use your 1994 computer all day. Just don't complain > when something designed in 2001 doesn't work on it, that's all. I don't > know where you live but I would think you could find somebody selling a > second hand Pentium 400 for about $100.00( no monitor, kb, mouse). Though > you might want to squeeze a few more years out of that SX50. It's a DX-2-66, actually. Did that sneer hurt when you came to remove it? But anyway, yes, I probably could find such a machine, but that $100 or British equivalent is (on my postgrad researcher's income) two to three weeks' travel, two weeks' food, or 4 CDs, all things I'd rather have than a P400 which would (since I have no other OS to hand[1]) have to run Win 3.1. Okay it would go like Goldenrod but it still wouldn't run anything this one won't. You can sneer some more; I'm about to upgrade it to a DX-2-80 and treble the memory! (Gasp!) And solve the HDD size problem at the same time. Most of the bits for that I got free. But the information on Mission Control will still be buried four layers deep and scattered over several topic-overlapping pages so that will only bring me a certain amount of joy. I do object to this idea that if one doesn't have the latest tech one's disenfranchised from the web. If I was driving a car built in 1994 I'd expect to be able to use a new road. Likewise, I know I'm driving the Internet equivalent of a Fiesta Mk 2 but I don't see whay that should mean I can't used the superhighway. Anyway, this is OFF. Didn't feel like I wanted to let that particular set of jobes go past uncountered though. Yours all, Jon [1] And I wouldn't run Win95+ without the actual disk! Because, that's Microsoft's copy-protection in the day of the CD-ROM isn't it? It's so unstable that if you don't have the CD one crash will make it irrecoverable... ObCD-R: Mr Quimby's Beard, Milwaukee 19/10/01, recorded by your good self in fact, I believe, Mr Witt... thank goodness we agree about the importance of something! -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 8 10:59:40 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:59:40 EST Subject: OFF: RE: HW: Mission Control: New Orders Message-ID: In a message dated 9/02/02 2:24:37 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > > I do object to this idea that if one doesn't have the latest tech > one's disenfranchised from the web. If I was driving a car built in 1994 > I'd expect to be able to use a new road. Likewise, I know I'm driving the > Internet equivalent of a Fiesta Mk 2 but I don't see whay that should mean > I can't used the superhighway. Anyway, this is OFF. Didn't feel like I > wanted to let that particular set of jobes go past uncountered > though. Yours all, > Jon > What are you gonna do when we change over G Jetson style transport - you're rusty old fiesta will need an upgrade ;-) wings etc From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 8 11:34:50 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:34:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. In-Reply-To: <133501c1b038$f7d604e0$434023d9@bernard> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Richard Lockwood wrote: => > Any site worth its salt should work fine under Opera (having said that, I => need to fix one of mine :-) ). => => Rewrite whizzy code for one percent of browsers? No thanks. Do you mean "desktop browsers" or all browsers? Our UIML group here would argue you have your head in the sand if you consider only the former, as more and more content is wanting to be accessible via cell phones, PDAs, and other mobile hardware (with vastly differing capabilities)... => The day all browsers support the same stuff is the day I'll be happy. Or, => the day we all use one browser. The day that people realise HTML was never designed (or originally intended) to do what they want it to do (specifically, presentational markup) is the day we'll all come to accept the general kludginess of today. Then we'll accept incompatible browsers as a logical consequence of a good idea gone bad, instead of something odd. ;-) Disclaimer: I'm a researcher, not a practitioner, damn it!. I have pity for those like Richard who have to grapple with this on a daily basis and make things work somehow. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 8 11:54:36 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:54:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: RE: HW: Mission Control: New Orders In-Reply-To: <20020208155355.B29624@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: => It's a DX-2-66, actually. Did that sneer hurt when you came to => remove it? But anyway, yes, I probably could find such a machine, but that => $100 or British equivalent is (on my postgrad researcher's income) two to => three weeks' travel, two weeks' food, or 4 CDs, all things I'd rather have => than a P400 which would (since I have no other OS to hand[1]) have to run => Win 3.1. Okay it would go like Goldenrod but it still wouldn't run => anything this one won't. Hey, I thought I was the only person still using a 486DX2/66! My PC Clone hardware is an old IBM ValuePoint PS/2 system that someone gave to me. (Actually, I suppose it's not actually a PC Clone but a "True Blue" IBM, come to think of it.:) I run FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE on it (now FreeBSD 4.5), which I track regularly. So, ironically, even though the hardware is ancient, the operating system is likely more up-to-date than that of 90% of people on this list. ;-) For the same reason as you ($100 could better be spent elsewhere), I am loathe to support the WinTel mindset of upgrading hardware every six months or so just to keep up with bloatware. (Usually I just wait for people's freebie cast-off hardware.;) => [1] And I wouldn't run Win95+ without the actual disk! Because, that's => Microsoft's copy-protection in the day of the CD-ROM isn't it? It's so => unstable that if you don't have the CD one crash will make it => irrecoverable... Haven't you heard, Jon, Win98 is the minimum Microsoft will support nowadays. (Even then, for how much longer? I don't even think they will let a new PC ship with it any more.) It won't be long before they have everyone running XP (spyware et al.) Welcome to the future... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Feb 8 13:02:04 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:02:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: VanderTop, La Musique des Spheres Message-ID: I mentioned this before Christmas and said I would put up a sample of Top's bass playing - you can go to www.pipeline.com/~stemfors/LMDS.MP3 and listen to the last 4 minutes of this piece. I think that if you don't have a high-speed connection you may have to download it to your hard drive first - it's 7 megs so if you have a dial-up connection it may not be worth the time it takes, sorry about that. If you can listen to it though, I'd be interested in what you think, whether you like/don't like/don't care about Magma. Stephan From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Feb 8 13:02:23 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:02:23 -0500 Subject: HW: Starfield Message-ID: >> I received my copy of the new Starfield CD single "Insomniac" >> this morning and have been playing it over and over again >> >there is only one song - that's why it's effectively only ?1.99 retail. >But WHAT A SONG!!!!!!!!! Um, this may not be the most tactful question, but will this track also appear on any upcoming full-length release? Stephan From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Fri Feb 8 13:29:54 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:29:54 -0600 Subject: OFF: RE: HW: Mission Control: New Orders Message-ID: > ObCD-R: Mr Quimby's Beard, Milwaukee 19/10/01, recorded by your good self > in fact, I believe, Mr Witt... thank goodness we agree about the > importance of something! Ah MQB, now that does make sense to me. > -- > Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London > jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > -------------------------------------------------------- > "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) > From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 13:54:35 2002 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:54:35 +0000 Subject: BOC: Quicklime Girl In-Reply-To: <3C638DFF.26596.4F3DA3@localhost> Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: >Hmm...a step forward and a step back. Actually, I've always liked >PW, despite howling protests from the august company here. Only >unpalatable part is the Jacques Cousteau reference, IMO... Where are those howling protests? I find that and 'Spy (in the house of the night)' are the reasons why I still listen to 'Club Ninja'. I see no reason to hate a track just because it appears on the same album as 'Beat em Up' (Gaaak!) -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From Joe.Lofft at ITEC.MAIL.SUNY.EDU Fri Feb 8 13:57:29 2002 From: Joe.Lofft at ITEC.MAIL.SUNY.EDU (Lofft, Joe) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:57:29 -0500 Subject: BOC: Quicklime Girl Message-ID: Glad to hear I am not alone! I've always loved Perfect Water, especially the clean guitar sound. I also recall Buck saying that he was not happy with the song.... -----Original Message----- From: Tim Hall [mailto:kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:55 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC: Quicklime Girl Ted Jackson wrote: >Hmm...a step forward and a step back. Actually, I've always liked PW, >despite howling protests from the august company here. Only >unpalatable part is the Jacques Cousteau reference, IMO... Where are those howling protests? I find that and 'Spy (in the house of the night)' are the reasons why I still listen to 'Club Ninja'. I see no reason to hate a track just because it appears on the same album as 'Beat em Up' (Gaaak!) -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From hw at CY-B.ORG Fri Feb 8 14:16:02 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:16:02 -0500 Subject: Browsers are a big pile of ****. Message-ID: Hey... Yepz AOL is indeed the spawn of Satan, and Nettley 6 definitely seems to have lost the plot along the way..... But the plot thickens further..... We have enough probs already coding stuff for sites that ask us to include java/flash/etc in their pages, as we have to to build in browser sniffers for about 20 combinations of brows/plat/opsys. And test each combo... oh joy. (some sites have several thousand pages) What makes it even harder is where different versions of the major browsers even render stuff however they feel like it... One slip of the HTML and a companies corporate homepage looks like a jackson pollock on some systems..... We're updating the MC site at the moment, and we stuck in some natty Java applets here and there (with grillions of autofilters for 'no whizzbang / plain text users' before people moan - you know who you are!), but what do our friends at micro$oft do? - release their latest browser without the Java engine built in. Oh how we laughed. So they expect everyone to do the 6mb download shuffle eh..... oh yeah, the average joe/josephine public are really gonna do that in a hurry.... so here we go a re-coding... AAAAAAArrrrrggghhhhh........ Rx ** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are probably complete and utter b*llocks and intended only for any individual or entity who bothers to give a sh*t. Any views or opinions expressed within this transmittal are totally and utterly ficticious and do not necessarily represent the workings of a sane mind. We also cannot guarantee this e-mail to be free from computer viruses, remenants of cheese dip or even tiny bits of rock, so it is your own bloody fault if your machine goes up in flames while downloading it to your system. <> >> > AOL uses IE, which on my machine is the 'default browser'... > >AOL? That's a virus isn't it? Delivery method - through the letterbox. >How it works - people put it in the CD drive. It then proceeds to f*** up >the host machine completely. > >Ironic that AOL use a version of IE as their default browser, given that >they own Nutscrape. > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 8 15:15:26 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:15:26 +0000 Subject: Ali Davey- "As Above, So Below" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, mike c wrote: > super great art Kevin (on AS ABOVE, SO BELOW), folded it open last > night.....the pulsing effect on track 10 is wonderful at high > volume,,,,,,,also, has version of "Sputnik Stan"... > Recommended! Um... track 10? `Sputnik Stan'? Is this the same CD as the subject header suggests? Because if so yours is really quite different to mine (aside from being bloody good of course...) Yours, Jon -- "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From starfield at SUPANET.COM Fri Feb 8 15:51:12 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:51:12 -0000 Subject: HW: Starfield 'Insomniac' Message-ID: In answer to some of your collective questions: 1. Richard Chadwick appears on the single Insomniac - so far he has not recorded any other materail with us, but we are optimistic that we will work with him again. 2. The single version is unique to the single - there will be an album with the same name, but probably not until late this year, and it will feature a different version of the song. Regards, Captain Bl at ck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Forstner" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Starfield > >> I received my copy of the new Starfield CD single "Insomniac" > >> this morning and have been playing it over and over again > >> > >there is only one song - that's why it's effectively only ?1.99 retail. > >But WHAT A SONG!!!!!!!!! > > Um, this may not be the most tactful question, but will this track also > appear on any upcoming full-length release? > > Stephan From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Feb 8 16:19:09 2002 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:19:09 -0700 Subject: Ali Davey- "As Above, So Below" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No, he meant "The Final Call" which, by the way, does have some fantastic artwork..... KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jon Jarrett > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 1:15 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Ali Davey- "As Above, So Below" > > > On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, mike c wrote: > > > super great art Kevin (on AS ABOVE, SO BELOW), folded it open last > > night.....the pulsing effect on track 10 is wonderful at high > > volume,,,,,,,also, has version of "Sputnik Stan"... > > Recommended! > > Um... track 10? `Sputnik Stan'? Is this the same CD as the subject > header suggests? Because if so yours is really quite different to mine > (aside from being bloody good of course...) Yours, > Jon > > -- > "I recognise that I have transgressed many of the precepts of the divine > law, and that I am subjected by various vices and iniquities, disobedient > to the words of the divine mystery brought unto me and a worshipper of the > delights of this military age." Marquis Borrell of Barcelona, 955 A.D. > > (Jonathan Jarrett, Birkbeck College London) From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Feb 8 16:51:59 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 21:51:59 +0000 Subject: Browsers are a big pile of ****. Message-ID: Hi ya, > As a "Not A Fan Of Microsoft's Evil Business Practices", it pains me to say > it, but IE6 (on a PC anyway) is a fantastic, reliable, working browser. The > sooner people stop using anything else, the sooner the world will be a far > friendlier place. (I've been working down at Sony for the last week, having > to rebuild an intranet from scratch, as it didn't work with any other > browser than IE6 on PC. All the code SHOULD have worked - but it didn't. > For example, did you know that NS 4.x (and I think 6) doesn't support HEIGHT > in a stylesheet?). You get to loathe browsers after about, ooh, five > seconds.) For some of us on i386 pc's IE is not an option. If you use linux there is no IE that will run (well maybe if you use wine?). So we are stuck with Netscape as a "do it all" browser. That is if you need exotic plugins you need Netscape. Netscape 4.n is fine!!! Netscape 6.n is too big too slow too bloated to run on my box, its as bad as Mozilla! I don't see any need for a better {do it all} browser than Netscape. The day everyone uses IE will be a very black one. At the moment there are MANY good browsers and Microsoft is forced to use STANDARDS. Standards that the rest of us have access to. The second Microsoft have a monopoly is the second they change from public standards to private corporate standards. When they adopt corporate standards the rest of us don't stand a chance!!! What do you mean by Netscape does not support HEIGHT in stylesheets? HEIGHT is an attribute of a tag, not itself tag. If its that Composer is destroying your html don't use Composer! Composer is OK for people that don't know html, but its f^&* all use to anyone that does because it will remove what it does not understand, and it don't understand much. If it is that you have a problem setting a tags HEIGHT attribute in a style sheet you need to check the style sheet DTD's. For example I use something like: P { font-size: 14pt; line-height: 15pt; text-indent: 1.00cm; text-align:justify } To define a paragraph in a style sheet (this one gives full justification, the first line is indented, like in a book). The awkward thing is that attributes in .css don't seem to use the same names they use in .html. Read stylesheet DTD at world wide web consortium www3c. As far as I can tell Netscape supports it all. Or maybe you mean the H1, H2... tags? Use something like: H1 { border: solid brown; background: burlywood; color: brown; text-align: cent er } H2 { border: solid burlywood; background: oldlace; text-align: left } N.B. If you want a FAST browser on Microsoft get w3c from the world wide web consortium (free). To get it to work keep your eyes open on the web site because you need some libraries from elsewhere to make it work.... The hassle will be well worth it! Chris From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Feb 8 17:02:43 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:02:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: Hi ya, Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > 6 is out for the PC and it is fantastic. It will create HTTP headers > > imitating various Netscape and IE incarnations if a site needs fooled into > > working, > > Which is fine if a site uses poor browser detection. Any site worth its > salt should be able to pick up Opera straight away. > So what is good browser detection? All you can do is request a browser id. If the browser sends a different id how can you tell the lie. Thats the whole point of being able to set it yourself. Its also so the developer can check the behavior of his/her code on browsers there is no access to. Quite often I just detect IE so I can tell IE users I have no way to support them they better get another browser. Or maybe I want to check what the WAP browser specific parts of my code do. Chris From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 17:51:47 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:51:47 -0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Richard Lockwood wrote: > > => > Any site worth its salt should work fine under Opera (having said that, I > => need to fix one of mine :-) ). > => > => Rewrite whizzy code for one percent of browsers? No thanks. > > Do you mean "desktop browsers" or all browsers? Our UIML group here > would argue you have your head in the sand if you consider only the > former, as more and more content is wanting to be accessible via cell > phones, PDAs, and other mobile hardware (with vastly differing > capabilities)... Sorry - yes, of course I meant desktop browsers. I'l wait until PDAs and phones are of any use before I start worrying about them! :-) > > => The day all browsers support the same stuff is the day I'll be happy. Or, > => the day we all use one browser. > > The day that people realise HTML was never designed (or originally > intended) to do what they want it to do (specifically, presentational > markup) is the day we'll all come to accept the general kludginess of > today. Then we'll accept incompatible browsers as a logical consequence > of a good idea gone bad, instead of something odd. ;-) Quite agree. We should have stuck with black text, Times New Roman on a grey background. Then done everything whizzy in Flash. :-) > > Disclaimer: I'm a researcher, not a practitioner, damn > it!. I have pity for those like Richard who have to > grapple with this on a daily basis and make things work somehow. Awww.... I'm going to go to bed with a nice warm cuddly feeling now. :-) Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 17:52:54 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:52:54 -0000 Subject: Browsers are a big pile of ****. Message-ID: If you want a hand, you know where I am. :-) R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Rx" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Browsers are a big pile of ****. > Hey... > > Yepz AOL is indeed the spawn of Satan, and Nettley 6 definitely seems to > have lost the plot along the way..... > > But the plot thickens further..... > > We have enough probs already coding stuff for sites that ask us to include > java/flash/etc in their pages, as we have to to build in browser sniffers > for about 20 combinations of brows/plat/opsys. And test each combo... oh > joy. (some sites have several thousand pages) What makes it even harder is > where different versions of the major browsers even render stuff however > they feel like it... One slip of the HTML and a companies corporate homepage > looks like a jackson pollock on some systems..... > > We're updating the MC site at the moment, and we stuck in some natty Java > applets here and there (with grillions of autofilters for 'no whizzbang / > plain text users' before people moan - you know who you are!), but what do > our friends at micro$oft do? - release their latest browser without the Java > engine built in. Oh how we laughed. So they expect everyone to do the 6mb > download shuffle eh..... oh yeah, the average joe/josephine public are > really gonna do that in a hurry.... so here we go a re-coding... > > AAAAAAArrrrrggghhhhh........ > > Rx > > > ** > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are probably complete and > utter b*llocks and intended only for any individual or entity who bothers to > give a sh*t. Any views or opinions expressed within this transmittal are > totally and utterly ficticious and do not necessarily represent the workings > of a sane mind. We also cannot guarantee this e-mail to be free from > computer viruses, remenants of cheese dip or even tiny bits of rock, so it > is your own bloody fault if your machine goes up in flames while downloading > it to your system. > > > <> > > > >> > AOL uses IE, which on my machine is the 'default browser'... > > > >AOL? That's a virus isn't it? Delivery method - through the letterbox. > >How it works - people put it in the CD drive. It then proceeds to f*** up > >the host machine completely. > > > >Ironic that AOL use a version of IE as their default browser, given that > >they own Nutscrape. > > > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 17:55:33 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:55:33 -0000 Subject: Browsers are a big pile of ****. Message-ID: > > What do you mean by Netscape does not support HEIGHT in stylesheets? > HEIGHT is an attribute of a tag, not itself tag. Exactly what I said. It supports WIDTH but not HEIGHT. Which you can get around, but somewhat painfully. > > P { font-size: 14pt; line-height: 15pt; text-indent: 1.00cm; > text-align:justify > } Raises quizzical eyebrow... I have been doing this for some time you know! :-) Cheers, Rich. From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 17:59:06 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:59:06 -0000 Subject: OFF: Netscapeism. Message-ID: > Hi ya, > > Richard Lockwood wrote: > > > > > > 6 is out for the PC and it is fantastic. It will create HTTP headers > > > imitating various Netscape and IE incarnations if a site needs fooled into > > > working, > > > > Which is fine if a site uses poor browser detection. Any site worth its > > salt should be able to pick up Opera straight away. > > > > So what is good browser detection? All you can do is request a browser > id. If the browser sends a different id how can you tell the lie. Opera (Certainly Opera 5 - haven't checked Opera 6 yet - will pass itself off as IE according to most browser sniffers. However, if you check for it speifically, it can be detected as Opera). I downloaded Opera 6.01 today, just to see if I'd missed something. The pages I checked with it, 90% didn't render as they should. I rest my case. Cheers, R. From Hawkwind at MEDIAONE.NET Fri Feb 8 19:11:36 2002 From: Hawkwind at MEDIAONE.NET (DRider) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:11:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Djam Karet Message-ID: Hey Now! I saw this review at www.jambands.com and thought that I would share it w/ everyone. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Dark Age - Djam Karet Ray Hogan Cuneiform Records 149 Progressive rock - or prog-rock - gets a bad rap. Often times, it's justifiably so. After all, it's difficult to imagine many things worse than self-inflated bombast, prolonged synthesizer solos that say absolutely nothing and a toilet philosopher's sense of art/intelligence. Djam Karet, an instrumental quartet from southern California that named itself after an Indonesian phrase meaning "elastic time - the hour that stretches", isn't the type of progressive band that will give you bad flashbacks of the 1970s. Think the musicality and intelligence of King Crimson rather than the self-indulgence and corniness of Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Put together in 1984 to perform music that was completely improvisational, Djam Karet traverse some serious terrain. With this four-piece, the focus is on establishing a variety of deep moods and soundscapes instead of wowing listeners with their formidable chops. Take the opening "No Man's Land," which compliments its crunching guitar riffs with a feel that is more Eastern drone than hard rock. Guitarists Gayle Ellett and Mike Henderson both a have a heavy-metal sensibility to their riffing and soloing, which somehow fits well with the overall band sound. Several of the titles hint at the dream sequences the band - Ellett (guitar, synths, field recordings), Henderson (same), Henry J. Osborne (bass, percussion), and Chuck Oken Jr. (drums, percussion, synths) - creates. There's "Web of Medea," a slow trance-inducer, and "Raising Orpheus," a serious mind-melter. Djam Karet keeps the guitars as the focal point of just about all 10 tracks. They even get a little funky on the up-tempo "All Clear" but that's not surprising for a band that clearly is unhappy staying in a particular time signature, tempo or format for too long. On the flip side, the three cuts that under three minutes sound like filler while the four songs that last longer than seven minutes sometimes go on too long. The shorter cuts are mostly culled from field recordings would seemingly only serve New Dark Age if it were a concept album. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Back when I found out about the ProgWest event, I visited the Djam Karet site http://www.djamkaret.com/ to find out what was new. It was then that I realized that I was missing the last 3 releases which are limited editions. And w/ the demise of Hawkwind.com, I have now made the Djam Karet website my new homepage........ While I really like "New Dark Age" and "Ascension", I totally love the "Still No Commercial Potential". It's the best of the 3 by far IMHO. It's 70 minutes of pure Djam Karet improvisation at it's best. The songs have no titles. It's just a release of a jam session. So if you like Djam Karet and you don't have "Still No Commercial Potential", I strongly recommend it! In fact, you can order their releases directly from their website. Mine came directly from Gayle just 2 days after placing my order. Very cool! It's seems a bit odd that Djam Karet has been tagged w/ the PROG label, but I am glad that they have been embraced by someone. It would be awesome if they would tour w/ FARFLUNG! Space Is There D From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 8 19:01:43 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:01:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: Spacemen3 Message-ID: Hey Folks... Um, if I might interrupt the boc-l 'tech' list for a moment, I have a question about music. :) I was listening to a CD (Fade Out) by the band Loop (pre-Main) yesterday (thanks to Stephan for that), and was thinking that they (and Main also, at least 'Motion Pool' the only disc I have of theirs as well) were a little like the one Spacemen3 CD (Sound of Confusion) I had. Only Loop is better (than both of these other discs) IMHO. Sort of raw, fuzzy, edgy repetitive rhymthic rock. The earlier Circle CDs (eg Meronia) were of the same ilk too (though they're yet better IMHO). Anyway, I didn't really care much for that Spacemen3 CD and haven't picked up any others, to date. Too high of a noise-to-signal ratio for my tastes. I think they're standing too close to their amps or something. Of course, nowadays, Mr. Pierce is getting pretty darn syrupy sweet...though the first couple Spiritualized discs are quite nice. So, anyway, I was a little confused by the issue date of that Spacemen3 CD...for a long time, I didn't realize that it was not really a 1992 release, but rather their first cassette or something finally put onto disc. So I gather that some of the true 'turn of the decade' stuff is quite a bit more 'musical' if you will. And after reading the All Music Guide report on them, they seemed to suggest the same. So maybe I've been selling them short. And I have a 'two-CD' rule of thumb about bands. Well, I was just confirming with you all the facts on these matters wrt Spaceman and the Sonic Boom. Are these ratings supported by others here? Playing with Fire is the one they recommend to newbies. Grakkl (FAA), a W3.11 user (at least it's a Pentium) :) >From www.allmusicguide.com *** 1986 Sound of Confusion Taang ****1/2 1987 Perfect Prescription Taang **** 1988 Performance Rough Trade ****1/2 1989 Playing with Fire Taang ****1/2 1990 Dreamweapon: An Evening of Contemporary... [live] Fierce **** 1990 Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs To Bomp **** 1991 Recurring Dedicated *** 1995 Performance: Live at the Melkweg 6/2/88 Taang *** 1995 Live in Europe 1989 Space Age From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 8 19:45:21 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:45:21 EST Subject: OFF: MOTORHEAD - Best Of DVD Message-ID: In a message dated 2/6/02 12:30:31 PM US Eastern Standard Time, stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK writes: > I followed the link to the site, and it says: "Format DVD-Rgn2: Europe." Joe From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Feb 8 19:52:02 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:52:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Spacemen3 Message-ID: Ah, one of my fave bands of the late 80s (although I can't say I've listened to them much recently) ... On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:01:43 -0500, K Henderson wrote: >Um, if I might interrupt the boc-l 'tech' list for a moment, I have a >question about music. :) Well, ok. But your message would look better if you were using a better browswer and had your cascading stylesheet attributes set correctly ;^). >I was listening to a CD (Fade Out) by the band Loop (pre-Main) yesterday >(thanks to Stephan for that), and was thinking that they (and Main also, at >least 'Motion Pool' the only disc I have of theirs as well) were a little >like the one Spacemen3 CD (Sound of Confusion) I had. Only Loop is better >(than both of these other discs) IMHO. The story of how Loop and Spacemen 3 "relate" is very funny ... (FWIW I've kept all my S3 albums, but the only Loop release I've kept is a live album that has a nice version of "Mother Sky"). >Well, I was just confirming with you all the facts on these matters wrt >Spaceman and the Sonic Boom. Are these ratings supported by others here? Not really ... >Playing with Fire is the one they recommend to newbies. I would agree with that statement, although 'Perfect Prescription' would also be a good choice. >*** 1986 Sound of Confusion Taang Their most "rock". Very Stooges-derivative, with one cover and one very blatant re-write of that band. >****1/2 1987 Perfect Prescription Taang Great album. Classic songs, classic sounds ("Ecstasy Symphony"), great Red Krayola cover ("Transparent Radiation"). I might recommend this one even more highly as a starter album. >**** 1988 Performance Rough Trade Since it's live, more "rock" than their other albums. >****1/2 1989 Playing with Fire Taang Their last "real" album. Two standout tracks ("Revolution", "Suicide"), and a few more songs that point towards Sonic's (Spectrum/E.A.R.) and Jason's (Spiritualized) later projects. >****1/2 1990 Dreamweapon: An Evening of Contemporary... [live] > Fierce !! This album is 100% drone !! If that turns you off, DO NOT buy it! OTOH, if 45 minutes of the same note sounds appealing to you, you will LOVE this album. This is basically the band "covering" noted avant-garde composer LaMonte Young (who worked with Tony Conrad [->Faust connection] and John Cale [->Velvet Underground] in the mid-60s). >**** 1990 Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs To > Bomp Demo/alternate versions of songs from the first two albums. For hardcore fans only, but still very good. >**** 1991 Recurring Dedicated This album isn't very good. In fact, the only good song on it (IMO) is the Mudhoney cover (done in "retaliation" to Mudhoney's hilarious cover - with new lyrics - of "Revolution" from 'Playing With Fire', which was itself a re-write of an unreleased-at-the-time MC5 song [journalist Nigel Cross called the band on it and they 'fessed up]). Allegedly, the band had already broken up before this album (their only major label release, on BMG) was recorded, so Sonic doesn't play on Jason's songs and vice-versa. >*** 1995 Performance: Live at the Melkweg 6/2/88 > Taang >*** 1995 Live in Europe 1989 Space Age These are probably very close to the 'Performance' album, so I can't understand why they'd be given a different rating. There are a few releases missing from this list, but the essential ones were all contained here. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 20:44:02 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 01:44:02 +0000 Subject: OFF: Spacemen3 In-Reply-To: <200202090021.TAA21507@mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <200202090021.TAA21507 at mail5.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson writes >Well, I was just confirming with you all the facts on these matters wrt >Spaceman and the Sonic Boom. Are these ratings supported by others here? >Playing with Fire is the one they recommend to newbies. > >Grakkl (FAA), a W3.11 user (at least it's a Pentium) :) > >>From www.allmusicguide.com > >*** 1986 Sound of Confusion You've heard this one. I like it. Especially "Losing Touch With My Mind". But it's the rawest by quite a long way. >****1/2 1987 Perfect Prescription This is the one. Definitely their best IMHO. Much greater range of sounds, more crafted but without losing that narcotic glow. Very appropriate that it contains a re-write of Lou Reed's "Street Hassle". >**** 1988 Performance >****1/2 1989 Playing with Fire Another good one but a bit too reliant on drifty keyboards and acoustic guitar noodling. Does contain the mighty "Suicide", their tribute to the band of the same name. They used to close their live sets with this, leaving the stage one by one, Sonic last after he'd taped down a few keys on the synth so that howling electronic storms would continue to lash around the hall long after they left the stage. It was very cool. >****1/2 1990 Dreamweapon: An Evening of Contemporary... [live] > ...Sitar Music". Lengthy (40 minute) single track, an acoustic jam recorded live at Watermans Arts Centre. Not interesting enough to justify its length. CD contains a couple of extra unreleased tracks that aren't particularly special. >**** 1990 Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs To This I think was a comp which collects together some early EPs etc. There's the full 30 minute version of "Rollercoaster" but the track that really makes this worth having is their cover of the MC5's cover of Sun Ra's "Starship" (if you follow me). >**** 1991 Recurring Not great. Not really a Spacemen 3 album either, as Messrs Boom and Pierce weren't speaking to each other by this stage, so this is basically two solo half-albums stitched together, and proves that the band were more than the sum of their parts. >*** 1995 Performance: Live at the Melkweg 6/2/88 Haven't heard this. > >*** 1995 Live in Europe 1989 Or this. They were great live though. In summary, if you want to hear one more before making your judgement, I would unhesitatingly recommend "The Perfect Prescription". -- Nick Medford From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 8 20:31:59 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:31:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tungsten 74 Message-ID: Hey Folks... Um, strange synchronicity. Just as I was sending that message about Loop and Spacemen 3, I put on a new CD I got in the mail today by a NYC outfit called Tungsten 74. Had never heard of them before, but after Karen K. had sent along a link to a cool indie store (along the lines of mp3.com and iuma.com) in Portland, OR called cdbaby.com, I'd searched through their listings of 'psychedelic' artists and was intrigued by the nebulous description of this band. And their disc was only $8, so I went for that. And a couple others including one by Milo Black who I've tried before and liked quite a lot. But that's for another post sometime later. Anyway, this band is fabulous! Very much like a cross between Circle and Speaker\Cranker, not that those bands are that dissimilar anyway. But you get the drift...guitar-laden loopy psychedelia with an improv feel and a hypnotic transfixiating effect. There's a song called 'Strong Koln' (I will leave out the umlaut over the o in Koln 'cause I'm sure some of your email browsers would mis-interpret it as a string of gibberish characters), that's just too brilliant for words. I think the reference to Can is pretty clear, though it's more like Circle's updated interpretation of krautrock. 'Homecoming' is similarly wonderful. Unfortunately, I don't think they have either of these tracks up on their website as mp3s to check out. But I didn't check their mp3.com/tungsten74 page to see if they had more there. http://www.tungsten74.com Grakkl (FAA) P.S. I picked up a used copy of the Mothman Prophecies 2CD soundtrack with King Black Acid today for a mere $9, so it's been a good day. Haven't had a chance to put that one on the player just yet. From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Feb 8 20:57:38 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:57:38 -0500 Subject: OFF: Spacemen3 Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 01:44:02 +0000, Nick Medford wrote: >>**** 1990 Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs To > >This I think was a comp which collects together some early EPs etc. >There's the full 30 minute version of "Rollercoaster" but the track that >really makes this worth having is their cover of the MC5's cover of Sun >Ra's "Starship" (if you follow me). I only have the original vinyl version, which doesn't contain the two early EP's (perhaps they're bonus tracks on the CD?). I definitely misspoke when I said that this list contained all the essential S3, because those first two EP's are some of their best stuff. I have a bootleg CD that compiles them, so I'm not sure if they ever came out officially on CD (and the original vinyl was impossible to track down, even in my most rabidly kollekting daze). I'd forgotten about how good that version of "Starship" is ... Everything else Nick says is 100% spot on! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 8 21:17:28 2002 From: nick at HERMIT0.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Medford) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 02:17:28 +0000 Subject: OFF: Spacemen3 In-Reply-To: <200202090157.UAA28531@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In message <200202090157.UAA28531 at listserv.spc.edu>, Doug Pearson writes >On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 01:44:02 +0000, Nick Medford CO.UK> >wrote: >>>**** 1990 Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs To >> >>This I think was a comp which collects together some early EPs etc. >>There's the full 30 minute version of "Rollercoaster" but the track that >>really makes this worth having is their cover of the MC5's cover of Sun >>Ra's "Starship" (if you follow me). > >I only have the original vinyl version, which doesn't contain the two early >EP's (perhaps they're bonus tracks on the CD?). I definitely misspoke when >I said that this list contained all the essential S3, because those first >two EP's are some of their best stuff. I have a bootleg CD that compiles >them, so I'm not sure if they ever came out officially on CD Since sending that last mail it's occurred to me that the comp I have them on may have a different title to the above, but with my CD collection in its usual disarray, I can't find it to check. It's definitely an official release, though it was a posthumous one. -- Nick Medford From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Fri Feb 8 21:31:14 2002 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 21:31:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Djam Karet Message-ID: From: "DRider" > While I really like "New Dark Age" and "Ascension", I totally love the > "Still No Commercial Potential". It's the best of the 3 by far IMHO. It's 70 > minutes of pure Djam Karet improvisation at it's best. The songs have no > titles. It's just a release of a jam session. 1) No Vacancy At The Hotel Of Noise 7:04 2) Twilight In Lonely Lands 7:10 3) Room 24, Around Noon 8:41 4) The Black Line 10:01 5) Night, But No Darkness 8:09 6) Strange Wine From A Twisted Fruit 28:51 > So if you like Djam Karet and you don't have "Still No Commercial > Potential", I strongly recommend it! In fact, you can order their releases > directly from their website. Mine came directly from Gayle just 2 days after > placing my order. Very cool! I bought everything but Collaborator and the mp3.com CD (autographed Still No Commercial Potential). Gayle threw in a free CD because of the size of my order. I'll have to check out their side projects now (The Maskit Chamber and Hybrid Vigor). Jerry From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Fri Feb 8 22:15:56 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:15:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Spacemen3 Message-ID: > The story of how Loop and Spacemen 3 "relate" is very funny ... Do tell us please! > (FWIW I've kept all my S3 albums, but the only Loop release I've kept > is a live album that has a nice version of "Mother Sky"). Ah, something we disagree on, no way would I lose my Loop. There is a studio version of Mother Sky on the CD reissue of Fade Out. Is the live album you mention the Italian 'Edizione Limitata' boot? > I said that this list contained all the essential S3, because those > first two EP's are some of their best stuff. Was one of those reissued as the 'For All The F*cked Up Children...' CD? I really like TV Catastrophe off that one. Stephan - I'm still at work and thoroughly pissed. Off that is. From chrisr at TIAC.NET Fri Feb 8 22:37:41 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:37:41 -0500 Subject: OFF: Man In Space Message-ID: Hi, I just picked up a few new items of interest: Man In Space - How To Potty Train a Supernova Space Head - Explode Into Space DarXtar - Tombola . Porcupine Tree - 40 minute version of Moonloop Anyone else have this stuff? I also got Metanoia on CD, but I already had it on cdr and vinyl. Just a few things to hold me over until some new HW output comes along. Chris From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Feb 8 22:55:50 2002 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:55:50 -0700 Subject: OFF: Andy Pickford Message-ID: Andy Pickford is an Electronic Music artist who's been around for some time; I had never heard of him before I got involved with artwork for his upcoming CD "Lughnasad." Since, I've tracked down most of his stuff, which is all very good, but is blown away by the demo I have of "Lughnasad." Wow! Much more moody and atmospheric then his earlier CDs. He refers to it as 'chill-out music' which is an apt description. At his new site, there are some MP3s of songs from previous CDs, as well as an exclusive-to-web song called 'Samanque' which is a good taste of the sort of textured sound on "Lughnasad." The only drawback is the size...it's a 27-minute song, which makes for quite a hefty download. If anyone would like to trade me a blank for a CD-R copy of this song (and the others from the site, as well if desired), mail me off-list. http://www.andypickford.co.uk/ And an interview here: http://www.folkvord.net/electronicshadows/profile.htm KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM Fri Feb 8 23:09:58 2002 From: jkranitz at AURAL-INNOVATIONS.COM (Jerry Kranitz) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:09:58 -0500 Subject: OFF: Djam Karet Message-ID: I'm so glad to see someone talking about Djam Karet on the Hawkwind list. You're right... they've been embraced by the prog rock community but there's SO MUCH in their music to appeal to space rock fans. Check out the interview I did with Gayle Ellett in the January issue of Aural Innovations: http://www.aural-innovations.com/issues/issue18/djamkar2.html Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations Space Rock E-Zine & Radio http://Aural-Innovations.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 8 23:30:51 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:30:51 EST Subject: Browsers are a big pile of ****. Message-ID: In a message dated 9/02/02 8:42:09 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET writes: > For some of us on i386 pc's IE is not an option. If you use linux there > is no IE that will run (well maybe if you use wine?). So we are stuck > with Netscape as a "do it all" browser. That is if you need exotic > plugins you need Netscape. > Still - you have more power at your finger tips than that of apollo 11 :-) "....allways look on .... the bright ... side of life ...." ta toot, ta-toot-ta-toot-ta-toot..... From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Feb 9 03:52:11 2002 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 01:52:11 -0700 Subject: OFF: Djam Karet Message-ID: I have them all, plus a "bonus": NearFest show:) Yum. It's very nice:) Collaborator is nice. Titled so 'cause they "collaborated" with various other artists, one being Kit Watkins. Maskit Chamber and Hybrid Vigor are really nice. Way floaty stuff. I'm going to have to dust mine off again.... Pam > I bought everything but Collaborator and the mp3.com CD (autographed > Still No Commercial Potential). Gayle threw in a free CD because of the > size of my order. I'll have to check out their side projects now (The Maskit > Chamber and Hybrid Vigor). > > Jerry -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace http://Aural-Innovations.com Announcements (February 9, 2002): We've just uploaded a new show from Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio. See the playlist below. New shows from our friends at Alchemical Radio should be arriving any day now, and in a couple weeks we'll have a new Ear-Relevant Music Hoedown show. SPACE ROCK FESTIVAL IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA!!! The folks at Cracked Egg Records are organizing a space rock festival in Atlanta. The tentative lineup includes Ozric Tentacles, Acid Mothers Temple, and Plastic Overlords. They have a good shot at getting a major promoter behind them which would bode well for attendance. However, the promoter is wanting attendance figures for similar shows around the US. Anyone who has organized an Ozrics (or similar) show please contact David Noel at editor at sfsn.com to help him get the info he needs. And if you know anyone who has organized such shows please make every effort to get them to contact David. Getting a major promoter behind this show could, if successful, result in similar backing for other such festivals around the country Electronic musician Matt Borghi is looking for performance opportunities throughout the states, but particularly in the midwest. Influences include Indie bands, space rock bands, Tortoise, God Speed You Black Emperor, lots of ambient influences including Brian Eno, John Cage, Harold Budd. The ensemble sounds like a cross between In A Silent Way-era Miles Davis and Brian Eno. Interested parties please contact Matt at mattborghi at yahoo.com. Aural Innovations Space Rock Radio (Show #42) Spacehead - "Nucleii" (from Explode Into Space) Alpha Omega - "Space Pilot" (from Electronic Mind Project) Escapade - "Interstellar Overdrive" (from Rule #3) King Black Acid - "Half Life" (from The Mothman Prophecies soundtrack) Pocket Venus - "Like You Too" (from Make It Through Your Day EP) The Magic Potty Babies - "Hemogoblin (911 Radio Edit)" (from Sacralicious!) Electric Orange - "Off" (from Abgelaufen!) Erfmen - "Sizzlers And Twizzlers" (from demo CD) Cyrille Verdeaux - "Moraga Hall" (from Journey To Tantraland) Romislokus - "Cold" (from Between Two Mirrors) Ludwig Kramer/Agitation Free - "2000 Years...?" (From Being Content) So head on over to http://Aural-Innovations.com and click on the Radio link to listen. Also be sure and check out our CD mail order catalog. We've got new discs in stock by Krom Lek and Census Of Hallucinations. Also coming in any day now will be Mandragora Lightshow Society - "Beyond The Mushroam Gate" and Datura - "Visions For The Celstial". You can access our online catalog directly at: http://aural-innovations.com/mailord/mailord.html From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Sat Feb 9 09:05:00 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 14:05:00 +0000 Subject: OFF Re: Browsers are a big pile of **** ...the solution. Message-ID: Hi ya, Ketil Svendsen wrote: > > Download Opera at http://www.opera.com > Install the little file, no need to restart (your mac, linux or even pc), smile and surf the web faster than ever before! > I did:-( As you might now know I am linux! Well it started up OK! Now I don't like things that take up all my screen, and opera is one of those browsers that displays big menus and folders and other stuff I don't want to see when I'm browsing. Some might like that sort of behavior and maybe you can customise it. No matter, maybe its useful... It does not help my confidence when I right click my mouse on a page... Nothing happens, then I release the button (being careful not to move the mouse!) and a menu briefly flashes on the screen... Hmmm... Thats not much use... What makes opera truly useless to man and beast though is the fact that it goes into a fit when it sees: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> And renders everything in a Greek font..... I go into preferences and start changing default fonts and stuff... The only page in preferences that looks like it might help has something to the effect "This is not yet implemented" in nice friendly letters on the top;-{ Also opera seems a lot slower than Netscape 4.n here. Sorry, I got to agree with Richard as far as opera is concerned... Its not yet ready! Chris -- There are people so addicted to exaggeration that they can't tell the truth without lying. From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Sat Feb 9 09:14:07 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 14:14:07 +0000 Subject: Browsers are a big pile of ****. Message-ID: Hi ya, > > Still - you have more power at your finger tips than that of apollo 11 :-) > "....allways look on .... the bright ... side of life ...." ta toot, > ta-toot-ta-toot-ta-toot..... YUP!!! Also I got a great deal more useful processing power that I would have were I daft enougth to use Microsoft:-) ie. Running Wintendo-95 this box can't run QuakeII OK Running linux this box CAN run QuakeII OK So I got slow box, so what! I don't need faster with linux:-) Still I want faster, my box needs more Lemmie! Chris -- There are people so addicted to exaggeration that they can't tell the truth without lying. From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Sat Feb 9 15:56:42 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 20:56:42 -0000 Subject: Who wants to be a millionaire??? Message-ID: Tonight on the British version of who wants to be a millionaire, one of the questions was which band was jimmy page and robert plant in together? One of the four answers that you could have chosen was Hawkwind! cheers colm From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Feb 9 19:19:43 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 19:19:43 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Reminder (and Note) Message-ID: This is to remind ya'll about tonight's show (5-7pm PST), but particularly to let you know that we can now take e-mail at the station, so the usual "comments, questions and recommendations" are welcome by e-mail which I'll be checking freq. during the show (as well as the usual phone calls <909-787-KUCR> thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck From mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM Sun Feb 10 01:11:51 2002 From: mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM (Duc De Montfort) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 01:11:51 -0500 Subject: Djam Karet In-Reply-To: <189901c1b0fe$57003e20$41d08118@se.mediaone.net> Message-ID: Yea I remember these guys.. I went to college with them.. First they were Happy Cancer. Then they called themselves Kafka's breakfast. (I have a scan of a flyer they did for a concert on campus somewhere) Then when Gayle Ellet joined from a different on campus band they became Djam karat. Which means rubber time in indonesia.. Le DUc ::-----Original Message----- ::From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On ::Behalf Of DRider ::Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 7:12 PM ::To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ::Subject: OFF: Djam Karet :: :: ::Hey Now! :: ::I saw this review at www.jambands.com and thought that I would ::share it w/ ::everyone. :: ::~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :: ::New Dark Age - Djam Karet ::Ray Hogan ::Cuneiform Records 149 :: ::Progressive rock - or prog-rock - gets a bad rap. Often times, it's ::justifiably so. After all, it's difficult to imagine many things ::worse than ::self-inflated bombast, prolonged synthesizer solos that say absolutely ::nothing and a toilet philosopher's sense of art/intelligence. :: ::Djam Karet, an instrumental quartet from southern California that named ::itself after an Indonesian phrase meaning "elastic time - the hour that ::stretches", isn't the type of progressive band that will give you bad ::flashbacks of the 1970s. Think the musicality and intelligence of King ::Crimson rather than the self-indulgence and corniness of ::Emerson, Lake and ::Palmer. :: ::Put together in 1984 to perform music that was completely ::improvisational, ::Djam Karet traverse some serious terrain. With this four-piece, ::the focus is ::on establishing a variety of deep moods and soundscapes instead of wowing ::listeners with their formidable chops. :: ::Take the opening "No Man's Land," which compliments its crunching guitar ::riffs with a feel that is more Eastern drone than hard rock. Guitarists ::Gayle Ellett and Mike Henderson both a have a heavy-metal sensibility to ::their riffing and soloing, which somehow fits well with the overall band ::sound. Several of the titles hint at the dream sequences the ::band - Ellett ::(guitar, synths, field recordings), Henderson (same), Henry J. Osborne ::(bass, percussion), and Chuck Oken Jr. (drums, percussion, synths) - ::creates. :: ::There's "Web of Medea," a slow trance-inducer, and "Raising Orpheus," a ::serious mind-melter. Djam Karet keeps the guitars as the focal ::point of just ::about all 10 tracks. They even get a little funky on the up-tempo "All ::Clear" but that's not surprising for a band that clearly is ::unhappy staying ::in a particular time signature, tempo or format for too long. :: ::On the flip side, the three cuts that under three minutes sound ::like filler ::while the four songs that last longer than seven minutes ::sometimes go on too ::long. The shorter cuts are mostly culled from field recordings would ::seemingly only serve New Dark Age if it were a concept album. :: ::~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ::Back when I found out about the ProgWest event, I visited the Djam Karet ::site http://www.djamkaret.com/ to find out what was new. It was ::then that I ::realized that I was missing the last 3 releases which are ::limited editions. ::And w/ the demise of Hawkwind.com, I have now made the Djam ::Karet website my ::new homepage........ :: ::While I really like "New Dark Age" and "Ascension", I totally love the ::"Still No Commercial Potential". It's the best of the 3 by far ::IMHO. It's 70 ::minutes of pure Djam Karet improvisation at it's best. The songs have no ::titles. It's just a release of a jam session. :: ::So if you like Djam Karet and you don't have "Still No Commercial ::Potential", I strongly recommend it! In fact, you can order ::their releases ::directly from their website. Mine came directly from Gayle just ::2 days after ::placing my order. Very cool! :: ::It's seems a bit odd that Djam Karet has been tagged w/ the PROG ::label, but ::I am glad that they have been embraced by someone. :: ::It would be awesome if they would tour w/ FARFLUNG! :: ::Space Is There :: ::D _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From des at SUPERLINK.NET Sun Feb 10 02:57:04 2002 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 02:57:04 -0500 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: Hi All, I'm getting married next week and would like to use a BOC song sometime during the reception, trouble is I can't think of one that would be appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder like me to dance to. I was thinking about "I Love The Night," but it indicates more the end of a relationship rather than the beginning (unless we become undead ;-) I'm open to sugestions (and cash gifts). Thanks, --Eric Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 10 03:05:30 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 03:05:30 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 10/02/02 6:27:35 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, des at SUPERLINK.NET writes: > I'm getting married next week and would like to use a BOC song sometime > during the reception, trouble is I can't think of one that would be > appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder like me to dance Hey Eric :-) Have a fabulous day - and may your lives together be full of great happiness Michael B From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sun Feb 10 03:48:49 2002 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 01:48:49 -0700 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: Hear, hear!!! Happy day to ya:) I celebrated my 17th last June:) may yours be long and happy:) Pam Michael W Blackman wrote: > In a message dated 10/02/02 6:27:35 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > des at SUPERLINK.NET writes: > > > I'm getting married next week and would like to use a BOC song sometime > > during the reception, trouble is I can't think of one that would be > > appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder like me to dance > > Hey Eric :-) > > Have a fabulous day - and may your lives together be full of great happiness > > Michael B -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Chris asked... >Hi, I just picked up a few new items of interest: >Anyone else have this stuff? >Man In Space - How To Potty Train a Supernova Yes. Nice. >Space Head - Explode Into Space Not yet. Jerry just got 'em I think...plan to get one from him. >DarXtar - Tombola . Yes. Very nice. >Porcupine Tree - 40 minute version of Moonloop No. I got the offer (only for those past and present PT-TRANS subscribers, so it's the analogue of the passport holder releases), but I didn't feel like calling overseas to then pay for something that's similar to what I already have. And SW is starting to piss me off with all this ridiculous discography hijinks. I mean, really, PT's discography has now more artificial enhancement than Cher and Britney Spears combined! Bass Communion II (a fine album) is to be reissued with a different bonus disc than the first time. WHY?! Now that he's being payed by Atlantic Records, he should start putting a halt to this crap...I give him credit for making a living as a musician, but it seems he's been trying to do just a little too much kompletist extortion lately. Time for him to call off the dogs, so to speak. >I also got Metanoia on CD, but I already had it on cdr and vinyl. I have it dubbed on cassette tape. Didn't buy the stupid LP, 'cause I knew he was lying when he said no CD was planned. :) Grakkl (FAA), not really bitter as long as he keeps doing nice things like IEM-Arcadia Son even if he does more terrible crap like Dimbulb Sun and Recordings. Note to CR: it was fun to hear proto-PT stuff! Thanks for that. From starfield at SUPANET.COM Sun Feb 10 04:59:00 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:59:00 -0000 Subject: HW: Pink Floyd Message-ID: For the record, Hawkwind got a rare mention on Radio 2 last night in Part 2 of the Pink Floyd story - and they played an extract of their version of Interstellar Overdrive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Captain Bl at ck" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:51 PM Subject: HW: Starfield 'Insomniac' > In answer to some of your collective questions: > > 1. Richard Chadwick appears on the single Insomniac - so far he has not > recorded any other materail with us, but we are optimistic that we will work > with him again. > > 2. The single version is unique to the single - there will be an album with > the same name, but probably not until late this year, and it will feature a > different version of the song. > > Regards, > > Captain Bl at ck. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephan Forstner" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Starfield > > > > >> I received my copy of the new Starfield CD single "Insomniac" > > >> this morning and have been playing it over and over again > > >> > > >there is only one song - that's why it's effectively only ?1.99 retail. > > >But WHAT A SONG!!!!!!!!! > > > > Um, this may not be the most tactful question, but will this track also > > appear on any upcoming full-length release? > > > > Stephan From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Feb 10 05:36:39 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:36:39 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: Hi Eric - I've been having the same trouble. Especially as Gill and I have wildly differing musical tastes! I've not managed to get agreement on any BOC but we've agreed on the following compromise... If we have a "normal" wedding type disco for most of the evening, my mate Steve the DJ can half a half hour set of the stuff he'd normally play (a fair proportion of which involve bands detuning their guitars and hitting them with spanners), and I can sneak Ramones' "Baby I Love You" onto the soundtrack of the wedding video... :-) All the best - hope it all goes according to plan. (Oh, and I'd avoid "She's as Beautiful as a Foot".) :-) Cheers, Rich. > Hi All, > > I'm getting married next week and would like to use a BOC song sometime > during the reception, trouble is I can't think of one that would be > appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder like me to dance to. > > I was thinking about "I Love The Night," but it indicates more the end of a > relationship rather than the beginning (unless we become undead ;-) > > I'm open to sugestions (and cash gifts). > > Thanks, > > --Eric > From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Feb 10 05:38:10 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:38:10 -0000 Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Reminder (and Note) Message-ID: I keep meaning to listen to this, but keep forgetting. What time is PST (Pacific Standard Time?) in relation to Greenwich Mean Time? Eight hours behind or something? Cheers, Rich. > This is to remind ya'll about tonight's show (5-7pm PST), but particularly to > let you know that we can now take e-mail at the station, so the usual > "comments, questions and recommendations" are welcome by e-mail > which I'll be checking freq. during the show (as well as > the usual phone calls <909-787-KUCR> > > thanks, Chuck > > "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. > Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims > TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html > For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing > list (REALLY!!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Feb 10 05:27:39 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 05:27:39 -0500 Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Reminder (and Note) Message-ID: >I keep meaning to listen to this, but keep forgetting. What time is PST >(Pacific Standard Time?) in relation to Greenwich Mean Time? Eight hours >behind or something? Yes. Currently. In summertime, we have this strange thing called Daylight Saving Time, which I'm not sure anyone else has, at which point it suddenly becomes only seven hours behind Zulu. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The World will come to an end at exactly 12 Midnight tonight....except in Newfoundland, where it will happen at 11:30. :) From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 10 06:56:24 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 05:56:24 -0600 Subject: Who wants to be a millionaire/Moorcock Message-ID: Must be the week for it: On Saturday, the Today Programme on radio 4, had a message from Mike Moorcock, obscurely slagging of the English and Cooking, saying they should be barred from cooking alltogether, and so should the Americans ;-) Stick to Fantasy Mike ;-) Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colm McWilliams" To: Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:56 PM Subject: Who wants to be a millionaire??? > Tonight on the British version of who wants to be a millionaire, one of the > questions was which band was jimmy page and robert plant in together? One of > the four answers that you could have chosen was Hawkwind! > > cheers > > colm From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Feb 10 09:27:57 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:27:57 -0500 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: `IN THEE' congrats tim E F wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm getting married next week and would like to use a BOC song sometime > during the reception, trouble is I can't think of one that would be > appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder like me to dance to. > > I was thinking about "I Love The Night," but it indicates more the end of a > relationship rather than the beginning (unless we become undead ;-) > > I'm open to sugestions (and cash gifts). > > Thanks, > > --Eric > > Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 10 09:33:27 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:33:27 EST Subject: Hawk IRC - anyone? Message-ID: Uploading some files to the tepee if anyone wants to pop in for a chat - feel free to join me :-) Mb From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 10 09:48:45 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:48:45 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/10/02 9:29:58 AM US Eastern Standard Time, ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET writes: > `IN THEE' > 'Light Years of Love' would also be good. A nice slow-dance number. 'Dominance and Submission' might be a bit too . . . suggestive, shall we say. Congratulations Joe From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Sun Feb 10 09:56:42 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:56:42 -0500 Subject: Test Message-ID: Sorry!!!!!! It's the first time I've tried to post, after over a year of accessing the list via the archives, so I thought I'd send a test post to check I've set everything up right. Tony Wilson From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Sun Feb 10 11:43:39 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:43:39 UT Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: >I'm getting married next week and would like to use >a BOC song sometime >during the reception, trouble is I can't think of >one that would be >appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder >like me to dance to. I'd say that "You're Not the One I Was Looking For" is one of the closest things BOC's got to an actual, non-twisted love song. Maybe Buck's version of "Speak Softly" from the Flat Out album would work? If her parents have a sense of humor, you could also throw in "Out of the Darkness". ??? --Nick From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 10 11:46:05 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 11:46:05 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/10/2002 11:43:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM writes: > >I'm getting married next week and would like to use > >a BOC song sometime > >during the reception, trouble is I can't think of > >one that would be > >appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder > >like me to dance to. > searchin' for celine -very funky true confessions -upbeat, a bit 50's-ish? bobm From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 10 12:50:46 2002 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (dave hall) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:50:46 -0000 Subject: Who wants to be a millionaire/Moorcock Message-ID: He's right too!! My "in-laws" come from the Naples area, 'nuff said!! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Rich Warren To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 10 February 2002 11:55 Subject: Re: Who wants to be a millionaire/Moorcock >Must be the week for it: > >On Saturday, the Today Programme on radio 4, had a message from Mike >Moorcock, obscurely slagging of the English and Cooking, saying they should >be barred from cooking alltogether, and so should the Americans ;-) > >Stick to Fantasy Mike ;-) > >Rich W > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Colm McWilliams" >To: >Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:56 PM >Subject: Who wants to be a millionaire??? > > >> Tonight on the British version of who wants to be a millionaire, one of >the >> questions was which band was jimmy page and robert plant in together? One >of >> the four answers that you could have chosen was Hawkwind! >> >> cheers >> >> colm > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Feb 10 12:54:21 2002 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:54:21 +0000 Subject: HW: Ron and Jerry In-Reply-To: <000a01c18f7e$d3d3aa00$77b1883e@oemcomputer>; from mail@ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 09:04:55AM -0000 Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 09:04:55AM -0000, IAN ABRAHAMS typed out: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Jarrett" > > Um, I'm less sanguine than you are. It says that the band are > > "waiting for them to get in touch", which doesn't to me suggest anyone's > > tried to contact them... More worryingly, I heard, albeit from a source I > > can't check, that Jerry was taking Brock to court over royalties > > disagreements from _Yule Ritual_. > > Why spread a story that you can't authenticate? Possibly bad play on my part. I know what the route of the information was to me and it seems to come from someone who ought to know; but as I myself don't know that person I can't go checking it. I was all-prepared to believe it but the news that Richard and Jerry are working together on Star Nation still (does anyone know what's going on that disk? Is it out yet? Is it just a full release of the EP stuff or is it new material? Anyone? is full of light and hype but no actual information) causes me to doubt thia as presumably they wouldn't be if Jerry was suing HW. Ach, whom can you trust. Sorry to have started that hare. > The downside of being fans rather than casual listeners is that we tend to > want all the background stuff as well as the music..and discover our heroes > are just like anybody else. Why are we surprised? Why is it anything at all > to do with us? Not a single other member of Hawkwind (in my opinion) could > have done what DB has achieved over the last 30 years. I'm not surprised, at all. They're people, and people with business sense as poor as mine it seems :-) But since they demand my loyalty and money every now and then, I occasionally wonder what keeps them from delivering. I have by now made it entirely clear, I think, that I personally want a new studio album by this line-up and want to know why it's not happening. It's not actually any of my business what they're doing but since it seems they want to be seen as worthwhile musicians whose views are acceptable and who engage with the fanbase, and not just faceless professionals, I get more involved than I might do. In terms of ethics or whatever I have my own views as to what's going on and who has the right of it. In terms of what the band can tell, that is, income, I go to all the concerts I can reach by both HW and XHW/ICU, and I buy what I can afford from both camps with decidedly less discrimination than I use with other bands and spin-offs. That's my loyalty. That, I think, gives me the right to comment on what they do and produce, although not to be listened to or accommodated, I stress! And my current comment is that Dave Brock's strategy often seems to be seen by other members as a bit iron-handed (fair?) Which is fine when he has the ideas but at the moment I think allowing the other crew-members a piece or two more of the decision-making and especially song-writing and recording actions would see more and better Hawkwind product sooner. I also think Nik should stop using the Hawkwind moniker at all if he can possibly can (I recognise that no promoter who wants to make money will put up with this if they're putting him on though), and I think Brock and co. should if they're going to take anyone to court (no idea if they are or not but the XXX-gestalt always seems keen to gather infringement examples) take the promoters or OZ-It, not Nik. It all seems to distract from the main business too much. If they put that much energy into new music and finding a competent manager... I may be utterly wrong about all this. But they want me to be interested and dammit I am. But not uncritical because after all they told me "Don't be a sheep" and I assume they meant even if they were the shepherds, right? Right? And the fact that they can't get EBS going again, even if it's just by signing Brock's portion over to Alan or Richard for an ongoing consideration, really really fails to impress me as from all (little) I know about it there are only personal reasons for this which could and should be overcome. > Isn't it funny? Most X-Hawkwind want to slag the guy off. And most > X-Hawkwind members would rejoin tomorrow if asked.... It all comes down to money usually though doesn't it. Nik's the only one who seems to have an ideological beef with Dave, but both he and Dave seem to be quite ready to hit each other in the purses in pursuit of it which I think is very sad. > > "Did you know, I'm actually taking out five law-suits at the > > moment? It's really good fun, actually, it's become my hobby... " > > A Calvert quote I think. From _At the Queen Elisabeth Hall_, indeed, you win a cookie. Hopefully I've not offended anyone by going off on one here. I just wanted it to be understood on what basis I criticise and what my preconceptions are. And to apologise for passing on unchecked information; will be more careful with that source next time. Yours, Jon Jarrett ObCD: Black Label Society - _Sonic Brew_ -- Jonathan Jarrett Birkbeck College, London jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk -------------------------------------------------------- "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away." (Tom Waits) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 10 14:20:18 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:20:18 EST Subject: HW: Ron and Jerry Message-ID: In a message dated 11/02/02 4:24:42 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > > Um, I'm less sanguine than you are. It says that the band are > > > "waiting for them to get in touch", which doesn't to me suggest > anyone's > > > tried to contact them... More worryingly, I heard, albeit from a source > I > > > can't check, that Jerry was taking Brock to court over royalties > > > disagreements from _Yule Ritual_. > It really must shit the Hawks off to see these rumerous flights of fancy happening - Especially factless rumours being broadcast on a discussion list bloody hell ........ Time for some comic relief - Mike C - saddle up bud mwa hahahah From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Sun Feb 10 16:37:53 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:37:53 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: > > > > `IN THEE' > > He's right you know! In Thee - I'll suggest it for mine. :-) Cheers, Rich. From riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM Sun Feb 10 17:49:52 2002 From: riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:49:52 -0600 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: We just celebrated our 11th. And we started with the entirety of Fire of Unknown Origin at the reception. Phillip E F wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm getting married next week and would like to use a BOC song sometime > during the reception, trouble is I can't think of one that would be > appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder like me to dance to. > > I was thinking about "I Love The Night," but it indicates more the end of a > relationship rather than the beginning (unless we become undead ;-) > > I'm open to sugestions (and cash gifts). > > Thanks, > > --Eric > > Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin -- Thank you, Phillip A Jaeger 512-335-3713 mailto:riordan at austin.rr.com mobile: 512-422-8356 mailto:5124228356 at mobile.att.net From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Sun Feb 10 17:56:50 2002 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 22:56:50 +0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: <3C66F910.EA6191EE@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: Phillip A Jaeger wrote: >We just celebrated our 11th. >And we started with the entirety of Fire of Unknown Origin at the reception. Well, there's always "White Flags" -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Feb 10 18:25:56 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 18:25:56 -0500 Subject: Test Message-ID: okay tony welcome aboard tim Tony Wilson wrote: > > Sorry!!!!!! > It's the first time I've tried to post, after over a year of accessing the > list via the archives, so I thought I'd send a test post to check I've set > everything up right. > Tony Wilson From shll at NOVONORDISK.COM Mon Feb 11 04:49:02 2002 From: shll at NOVONORDISK.COM (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:49:02 +0100 Subject: Copenhagen Space Rock Festival Postponed Message-ID: Hello Everyone, This is really horrible news as this late time 5 weeks before the show but due to circumstances with the club and lack of time to properly promote this show to guarentee that this does not Bankrupt Burnt Hippie, this event is postponed until the last weekend in August. THE FESTIVAL WILL HAPPEN, IT IS NOT CANCELED. THE CD IS COMING OUT IN MARCH-APRIL. Don't get this wrong, now we just buy ourselves some time to make this a killer event with 2-300 people and not worry that only 60 come like in J?nk?ping. I am very disappointed but Ralph and I and Loppen discussed this and it is the right thing to do at this time. We will try to get Record Heaven in Malm? to help to promote the event in southern Sweden. (DarXtar label) Thanks for your patience and understanding. scott and ralph www.spacerock.subnet.dk PS: Magnus please update the web site ASAP! Thanks.. From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Feb 11 06:04:52 2002 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:04:52 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: Excellent idea! I walked down the isle to the Imperial March from Star Wars, got married to the longest track from A Silver Mt Zion, and walked back up the aisle to the main theme from Star Wars. Later we danced/rocked out the the entirity of On Your Feet or On Your Knees. So I recommend Domminance and Submission or Subhuman. No real romantic theme there, but top toons! Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E F" To: Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:57 AM Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? > Hi All, > > I'm getting married next week and would like to use a BOC song sometime > during the reception, trouble is I can't think of one that would be > appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder like me to dance to. > > I was thinking about "I Love The Night," but it indicates more the end of a > relationship rather than the beginning (unless we become undead ;-) > > I'm open to sugestions (and cash gifts). > > Thanks, > > --Eric > > Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 11 06:20:08 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:20:08 GMT Subject: Test In-Reply-To: Tony Wilson's message of Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: Tony Wilson writes: > Sorry!!!!!! > It's the first time I've tried to post, after over a year of accessing the > list via the archives, so I thought I'd send a test post to check I've set > everything up right. > Tony Wilson Not Tony Wilson ex of St.Andrews University circa 1980? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 11 06:21:46 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:21:46 GMT Subject: Who wants to be a millionaire/Moorcock In-Reply-To: dave hall's message of Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:50:46 -0000 Message-ID: > >On Saturday, the Today Programme on radio 4, had a message from Mike > >Moorcock, obscurely slagging of the English and Cooking, saying they should > >be barred from cooking alltogether Surely not including the lovely Nigella? FoFP From wrightm at BRE.CO.UK Mon Feb 11 06:28:07 2002 From: wrightm at BRE.CO.UK (Wright, Mike) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:28:07 -0000 Subject: Who wants to be a millionaire/Moorcock Message-ID: >>On Saturday, the Today Programme on radio 4, had a message >>from Mike Moorcock, obscurely slagging of the English and Cooking, >>saying they should be barred from cooking alltogether > > Surely not including the lovely Nigella? > Radio 4 Today programme 09/02/2002 Letters 8:27 a.m. John Humphries: "Can girls boil an egg? Should girl's be able to boil an egg? That was the pressing question we asked on Thursday's programme. According to latest research many of them can't. "Good" says the writer Michael Moorcock. "Anything which stops most English people cooking has to be good. Okay, the restaurants have improved, the posher classes have Nigella Lawson, but I bet you haven't had Sunday lunch in Telford recently." Mr Moorcock, incidentally, was writing from Austin in Texas which he describes as being "...no bloody better." Anorak trabscript ends mike w Privileged and confidential information and/or copyright material may be contained in this e-mail. The information and material is intended for the use of the intended addressee only. If you are not the intended addressee you may not copy or deliver it to anyone else or use it in any unauthorised manner. To do so is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail and destroy all copies. Thank you. From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Mon Feb 11 07:33:14 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:33:14 -0000 Subject: Test Message-ID: > > It's the first time I've tried to post, after over a year of accessing the > > list via the archives, so I thought I'd send a test post to check I've set > > everything up right. > > Tony Wilson > > Not Tony Wilson ex of St.Andrews University circa 1980? > > FoFP > Nope, in fact the only time I've been to Scotland was last November to watch Hawkwind play. Tony Wilson From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Mon Feb 11 08:25:09 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:25:09 -0500 Subject: OFF: MOTORHEAD - Best Of DVD Message-ID: Ah yes, but when I bought it, the box said Region 0 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:45:21 EST From: Joe Loehr Subject: Re: OFF: MOTORHEAD - Best Of DVD In a message dated 2/6/02 12:30:31 PM US Eastern Standard Time, stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK writes: > I followed the link to the site, and it says: "Format DVD-Rgn2: Europe." Joe From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Mon Feb 11 08:33:12 2002 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 05:33:12 -0800 Subject: BOC: Toad's Tickets In-Reply-To: <005d01c1b208$8da3f6a0$8335fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: Greetings all. Due to pain in the ass traveling, I wasn't going to see the show at Toad's until someone posted Perfect Water as included in a recent set list. I recall someone (band member of warm-up?) offering tickets at Toads. Any help here? THanks Joe Sardo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Mon Feb 11 08:41:24 2002 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 05:41:24 -0800 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: <005d01c1b208$8da3f6a0$8335fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: > Hi All, > > I'm getting married next week and would like to use > a BOC song sometime > during the reception, trouble is I can't think of > one that would be > appropriate or easy for a box stepper/jump-arounder > like me to dance to. "A Redcap" is a real toe-tapper. Congrats, Eric "They went to the altar and there they fried in the fat in which they both supplied." Joe Sardo > > I'm open to sugestions (and cash gifts). > > Thanks, > > --Eric > > Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to > complain. -- Lily Tomlin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com From micci at SCI.FI Mon Feb 11 10:01:07 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:01:07 +0200 Subject: HW: Not Of This Earth Message-ID: Hi! I saw this item; Not Of This Earth-The Scifi Project. Anyone more information? Is it Black Widow release? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Feb 11 09:19:15 2002 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:19:15 -0500 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: My choices would be: In Thee, I Love the Night, Light Years of Love, Dance on Stilts, or Still Burnin' John (who's first dance with his bride was "Forever" by KISS) From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Feb 11 10:20:33 2002 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:20:33 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: <3C67D2E2.A721FA3B@mitre.org> Message-ID: Not "Cold Gray Light of Dawn," then? ;) -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 11 10:23:05 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:23:05 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/02/02 1:50:38 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > Not "Cold Gray Light of Dawn," then? > > ;) > How about that one from Grease that John boy and Olivia sing together - whats it called? "...you're the one that I want - ooooh ooohh ohhhhh......... Get everyone in the mood for dancing and whatever ... hehe From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Feb 11 10:32:44 2002 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:32:44 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: <181.3674036.29993bd9@aol.com> Message-ID: > How about that one from Grease that John boy and Olivia sing > together - whats > it called? > "...you're the one that I want - ooooh ooohh ohhhhh......... > Get everyone in the mood for dancing and whatever ... hehe And that's a Blue Oyster Cult song how? -- Andy www.andygilham.com From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 11 10:35:51 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:35:51 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/02/02 2:03:06 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > And that's a Blue Oyster Cult song how? > "How" is a blue oyster cult song? Thanks for the info not a BOC fan tho - but thanks anyway From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Feb 11 10:38:48 2002 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:38:48 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Christ. I don't miss the Hawkwind half of this list one bit. -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Michael W Blackman > Sent: 11 February 2002 15:36 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: Song for a wedding? > > > In a message dated 12/02/02 2:03:06 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > > > > And that's a Blue Oyster Cult song how? > > > > "How" is a blue oyster cult song? Thanks for the info > > not a BOC fan tho - but thanks anyway > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 11 10:40:10 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:40:10 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/02/02 2:09:09 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > Christ. I don't miss the Hawkwind half of this list one bit. > > -- Andy > Bit of a snobby bugger aren't you - From email at ANDYGILHAM.COM Mon Feb 11 10:45:11 2002 From: email at ANDYGILHAM.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:45:11 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: <115.c6173af.29993fda@aol.com> Message-ID: Maybe, but at least I'm not a moron. End of discussion. -- Andy www.andygilham.com > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Michael W Blackman > Sent: 11 February 2002 15:40 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: Song for a wedding? > > > In a message dated 12/02/02 2:09:09 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > > > > Christ. I don't miss the Hawkwind half of this list one bit. > > > > -- Andy > > > > Bit of a snobby bugger aren't you - > > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 11 10:47:06 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:47:06 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 12/02/02 2:15:35 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, email at ANDYGILHAM.COM writes: > Maybe, but at least I'm not a moron. > > End of discussion. > > -- Andy > What? - Nasty as well From jguizar at STNY.RR.COM Mon Feb 11 11:41:45 2002 From: jguizar at STNY.RR.COM (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:41:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Not Of This Earth Message-ID: From: "Miikka Wagner" > I saw this item; Not Of This Earth-The Scifi Project. Anyone more > information? Is it Black Widow release? Not sure what label, but I want it. According to the last supplement I got from AndyG - the tracks had to be inspired by, or relate to the artists favorite Sci-Fi TV program or film. There's 39 bands, ones he lists are Hawkwind, Alan Davey, ST37, Dr Hasbeen, Quarkspace, and Krel. It's either 3CD's or 4LP's. Jerry From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Mon Feb 11 12:06:03 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:06:03 -0000 Subject: HW: Not Of This Earth Message-ID: > > I saw this item; Not Of This Earth-The Scifi Project. Anyone more > > information? Is it Black Widow release? > > Not sure what label, but I want it. According to the last supplement > I got from AndyG - the tracks had to be inspired by, or relate to the > artists favorite Sci-Fi TV program or film. There's 39 bands, ones > he lists are Hawkwind, Alan Davey, ST37, Dr Hasbeen, Quarkspace, > and Krel. It's either 3CD's or 4LP's. > This topic has recently been discussed on the Mr Quimby's Beard Discussion Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mrquimbysbeard/ The outcome of which would appear to be that...... It is going to be a Black Widow release (planned for April) Each bands recorded a unreleased track about a cult SF movie , for example: Mr Quimby's Beard - Quatermass and the pit Candlemass-Planet of the Apes A.Davey-Forbidden planet Ars Nova(Japan)-War of the worlds Eternal Elysium(Japan)-Godzilla PXR1(UK)-The day the earth stood still Hawkwind-When two worlds collide Krel-2001 Odyssey and so on... Other bands mentioned were; Sun Dial, Pete Pavli, Adrian Shaw, Kirlian Kamera, Malombra, Standarte, Versailles, Paul Chain, Count Raven, Architectural Metaphor...... I hope this helps. Tony Wilson From des at SUPERLINK.NET Mon Feb 11 13:24:56 2002 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:24:56 -0500 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: Wow, what a great response this has been. Kind of a nice fresh thread too... Terrific advice from all. I was original just going to use one tune thrown into the dance floor mix, but now I think I'll have them include more. In the top is: "You're Not The One I Was Looking For", I had forgotten about "Dance on Stilts" which is now going to be in there too; not yet sure what else. Suzanne is big into the '8os' music, but Pat Benetar, The Knack, etc., so therefore I insist on BOC. My vows to her are inspired by Neil Young's "Love is a Rose." Many thanks. --Eric From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 11 12:34:03 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:34:03 EDT Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: <006401c1b329$68fd0d10$0201a8c0@pixtasy> Message-ID: On 11 Feb 2002, at 13:24, E F wrote: > Wow, what a great response this has been. Kind of a nice fresh thread > too... > > Terrific advice from all. I was original just going to use one tune > thrown into the dance floor mix, but now I think I'll have them > include more. In the top is: "You're Not The One I Was Looking For", > I had forgotten about "Dance on Stilts" which is now going to be in > there too; not yet sure what else. > Take Me Away... theo From starfield at SUPANET.COM Mon Feb 11 14:18:23 2002 From: starfield at SUPANET.COM (Captain Bl@ck) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:18:23 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: A good friend of mine once asked for Chris Rea's 'The Road To Hell' to be played as he walked down the aisle. Unfortunately his wife-to-be found out before hand and put a stop to it... ----- Original Message ----- From: "E F" To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: Re: BOC: Song for a wedding? > Wow, what a great response this has been. Kind of a nice fresh thread > too... > > Terrific advice from all. I was original just going to use one tune thrown > into the dance floor mix, but now I think I'll have them include more. In > the top is: "You're Not The One I Was Looking For", I had forgotten about > "Dance on Stilts" which is now going to be in there too; not yet sure what > else. > > Suzanne is big into the '8os' music, but Pat Benetar, The Knack, etc., so > therefore I insist on BOC. > > My vows to her are inspired by Neil Young's "Love is a Rose." > > Many thanks. > > --Eric From bert at APPRENTICEIS.COM Mon Feb 11 14:30:27 2002 From: bert at APPRENTICEIS.COM (Bert Edens) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:30:27 -0600 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: <006501c1b330$e0b75d40$c41428d5@lucidzoo> Message-ID: At 19:18 2/11/02 +0000, you wrote: >A good friend of mine once asked for Chris Rea's 'The Road To Hell' to be >played as he walked down the aisle. > >Unfortunately his wife-to-be found out before hand and put a stop to it... For my wedding I had wanted R.E.M.'s "It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)"... Again, wife found out and nixed it... :-) - Bert From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Feb 11 14:39:15 2002 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:39:15 -0800 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: > >A good friend of mine once asked for Chris Rea's 'The Road To Hell' to be > >played as he walked down the aisle. > > > >Unfortunately his wife-to-be found out before hand and put a stop to it... > > For my wedding I had wanted R.E.M.'s "It's The End Of The World As We Know > It (And I Feel Fine)"... Again, wife found out and nixed it... :-) We had a medieval-esque wedding, and so we had all "period" music. The march that my wife-to-be entered to was titled "The March Before The Battle"..... scorch From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 11 18:08:50 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:08:50 EST Subject: OFF: MOTORHEAD - Best Of DVD Message-ID: In a message dated 2/11/02 8:25:43 AM US Eastern Standard Time, stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK writes: > Ah yes, but when I bought it, the box said Region 0 > > > > Cool! Have to save my pennies and buy a copy! Joe From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Feb 11 17:55:15 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:55:15 -0500 Subject: BOC: Toad's Tickets Message-ID: >Greetings all. > >Due to pain in the ass traveling, I wasn't going to >see the show at Toad's until someone posted Perfect >Water as included in a recent set list. > >I recall someone (band member of warm-up?) offering >tickets at Toads. > >Any help here? Seen on USENET... Well.....Here we go again.BOC are playing at Toad's Place in New Haven Connecticut on Friday March 1st and my band,Megahertz,is opening up for 'em.Many of you might remember me from my previous posts from last year AND the year before when I opened up for BOC.For those that don't,we offered FREE tix to the shows and we're offering the same this year.Here's the deal-get the vouchers from us,get into the club before 10pm and viola,you're in for free(after 10 it's $9.99 admission).So,E-mail me your snail mail address and how many you'd like(absolutely no limit)and we'll get them to you(with no obligation)within a few days.Feel free to spread the word of this as we have unlimited access to these free vouchers from Toad's Place and if any of you know where else to post this info,please contact me with the whereabouts and I'll be sure to do so.Oh,one last thing-for those that are going to the gig,check out our website and look at our setlist;vote for your top 5 fave songs that we perform and we'll play them for you that night.This is our way of saying thanks to all of you and BOC for having us 3 years in a row at Toad's. Big Jim - MHz Guitarist Megahertz Website MHZRock.com mhzjames at aol.com From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Feb 11 18:41:22 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:41:22 -0500 Subject: OFF: Metropolis Message-ID: For those who care...... Fritz Lang's classic 1927 sci-fi film METROPOLIS is out on DVD on Feb 19th for $7.95 !!! at Amazon.com hey... From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Feb 11 20:44:00 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:44:00 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: Eric, I'd advise against "You're not the one..."... Think about it. :-) Seriously - go for Ramones instead. The most romantic drunken rock 'n' roll song ever. Good luck, Cheers, Rich. (Who joins the club on 2/6/02) > Wow, what a great response this has been. Kind of a nice fresh thread > too... > > Terrific advice from all. I was original just going to use one tune thrown > into the dance floor mix, but now I think I'll have them include more. In > the top is: "You're Not The One I Was Looking For", I had forgotten about > "Dance on Stilts" which is now going to be in there too; not yet sure what > else. > > Suzanne is big into the '8os' music, but Pat Benetar, The Knack, etc., so > therefore I insist on BOC. > > My vows to her are inspired by Neil Young's "Love is a Rose." > > Many thanks. > > --Eric > From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 11 20:57:32 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:57:32 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 2/11/2002 8:43:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK writes: > I'd advise against "You're not the one..."... > > Think about it. > > i echo the sentiment, but for a different reason...THE SONG SUCKS. and why do people keep mentioning non-BOC songs? thread too long? guess i'll have to agree with IN THEE. bobm From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Mon Feb 11 21:06:10 2002 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:06:10 -0800 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: Hmmm..... Before the Kiss? :) From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Feb 11 21:09:23 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:09:23 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: > > > > I'd advise against "You're not the one..."... > > > > Think about it. > > > > > > i echo the sentiment, but for a different reason...THE SONG SUCKS. Nooo! It's a great song! > and why do people keep mentioning non-BOC songs? thread too long? No - just that in my case, I'm in the same situation, and am passing on "wisdom" gleaned from many hours of discussion with my beautiful fiancee bout such matters! :-) > guess i'll have to agree with IN THEE. Yup. BOC don't *do* straight love songs - but that's the closest you'll get. A gorgeous song, and one that should be played at every wedding on the planet. > bobm Cheers, Rich. From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Mon Feb 11 21:08:53 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:08:53 -0000 Subject: HW: Harvey mp3 Message-ID: The following was posted on the Mr Quimby's Beard Yahoo group earlier today. I thought the MQB/Harvey Bainbridge MP3 might be of interest to some of you here. I'm downloading it now, I'll let you know what I think. Tony Wilson ********************************************** The Freaky Fungi Website www.btinternet.com/~freakyfungi has been updated. Latest additions include : All the latest Quimby news. A Mr Quimby's Beard History Page (with some new band pics). The Acid Bringer live 2001.mp3 - (5.9 mbs). Mr Quimby's Beard featuring Hawkwind's Harvey Bainbridge. Recorded live in Milwaukee WI. 19th October 2001, from the "Shrouded In Mystery USA Tour ". This track is a jammed version of (the 1st section of) the classic MQB track "Bringin' Up The Acid" which was played as an encore with Harvey throughout the 2001 tour. Strange Daze 2001 review. ********************************************* From HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM Mon Feb 11 22:18:03 2002 From: HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM (Dave Hess) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:18:03 EST Subject: HW: STAR-NATION Message-ID: Star-Nation Info: ? The CD is 2-3 weeks away from being available. It is approx. 50 minutes long and has all new songs. check out www.star-nation.co.uk for updates. The album is called "The Silver Age" C-Yaaaaaaaaaa Dave I I /\\ /I /\ /--l--I\ I I---\ I-- I----\ I------I /----\\ /\ / I/ \ /\ / I I \ I I I I- I I I I/ \\/ \/ I \ \/ \/ --I--I \I I__/ I_ I__/ From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 12 00:16:28 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:16:28 EST Subject: HW: STAR-NATION Message-ID: In a message dated 12/02/02 1:49:18 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, HAWKWINDED at AOL.COM writes: > Star-Nation Info: > The CD is 2-3 weeks away from > being available. It is approx. 50 minutes long and has all new songs. > check out www.star-nation.co.uk for updates. > The album is called "The Silver Age" > Like the web site and eagerly await the next Star Nation : - ) Kommander Mik 'Alien Dream' Blackman From des at SUPERLINK.NET Tue Feb 12 01:24:58 2002 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:24:58 -0500 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: I think "You're Not the One..." works well, especially for us. We knew each other years ago from school, but just happened to run into each other at a store. We chatted and then decided we should get together to play 'catch up' and the next thing you know, three years later we are getting married. "You're not the one I was looking for, but you're the one for me..." fits our whimsey too. "Fire of Unknown Origin" is out, I can't get her to agree to 'Reaper' either. She likes "Burning For You," but that is probably my least favorite BOC song. "In Thee" is definately a pretty song, but I always see it as a love lost song. I'd like the end theme from Blade Runner instead of the wedding march ;-) --Eric Subject: Re: BOC: Song for a wedding? > > > > > > > I'd advise against "You're not the one..."... > > > > > > Think about it. > > > > > > > > > > i echo the sentiment, but for a different reason...THE SONG SUCKS. > > Nooo! It's a great song! > > > and why do people keep mentioning non-BOC songs? thread too long? > > No - just that in my case, I'm in the same situation, and am passing on > "wisdom" gleaned from many hours of discussion with my beautiful fiancee > bout such matters! :-) > > > guess i'll have to agree with IN THEE. > > Yup. BOC don't *do* straight love songs - but that's the closest you'll > get. A gorgeous song, and one that should be played at every wedding on the > planet. > > > bobm > > Cheers, > > Rich. > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 12 06:20:27 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:20:27 EDT Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? In-Reply-To: <008201c1b38d$fefc6900$8335fea9@oemcomputer> Message-ID: On 12 Feb 2002, at 1:24, E F wrote: > I think "You're Not the One..." works well, especially for us. We > knew each other years ago from school, but just happened to run into > each other at a store. We chatted and then decided we should get > together to play 'catch up' and the next thing you know, three years > later we are getting married. > That's a cool story. Our drummer has a very similar relationship. He dated his fianc?e years ago, they split up, each married someone else, got divorced, and now, 20 years later, out of the blue, they met each other again. They're getting married later this year... theo From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Tue Feb 12 08:39:21 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:39:21 UT Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: No disrespect, but I see In Thee getting a lot of votes here. . . even though I'm sure everybody knows it's about the END of a relationship. I know the average male BOC fan wouldn't be bothered by that kind of superstition, but brides tend to be a bit humorless when it comes to such things. --Nick (Been there) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 12 08:41:47 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:41:47 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 13/02/02 12:09:14 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM writes: > No disrespect, but I see In Thee getting a lot of votes here. . . even > though I'm sure everybody knows it's about the END of a relationship. I > know the average male BOC fan wouldn't be bothered by that kind of > superstition, but brides tend to be a bit humorless when it comes to such > things Indeed - Indeed - you want a song that brings to mind images of love and longivity etc and always and all those other mushy verbs that relate to a life of love and happiness Bruce From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Feb 12 08:45:29 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:45:29 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: > > No disrespect, but I see In Thee getting a lot of votes here. . . even > > though I'm sure everybody knows it's about the END of a relationship. I > > know the average male BOC fan wouldn't be bothered by that kind of > > superstition, but brides tend to be a bit humorless when it comes to such > > things > > Indeed - Indeed - you want a song that brings to mind images of love and > longivity etc > and always and all those other mushy verbs that relate to a life of love and > happiness Ah. "Bonded by Blood" by Exodus then? (I'll get me coat). :-) R. From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 12 08:41:16 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:41:16 -0000 Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: You mean sex? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:41 PM Subject: Re: BOC: Song for a wedding? > In a message dated 13/02/02 12:09:14 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM writes: > > > > No disrespect, but I see In Thee getting a lot of votes here. . . even > > though I'm sure everybody knows it's about the END of a relationship. I > > know the average male BOC fan wouldn't be bothered by that kind of > > superstition, but brides tend to be a bit humorless when it comes to such > > things > > Indeed - Indeed - you want a song that brings to mind images of love and > longivity etc > and always and all those other mushy verbs that relate to a life of love and > happiness > > Bruce From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 12 08:49:15 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:49:15 EST Subject: BOC: Song for a wedding? Message-ID: In a message dated 13/02/02 12:16:16 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET writes: > You mean sex? > uuhhhhhh - well (???)maybe - a really well written and arranged song about a long and glorius life of super shagging could hit the spot - yes HuHeffner From nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM Tue Feb 12 09:06:04 2002 From: nyeconomist at YAHOO.COM (Joseph Sardo) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 06:06:04 -0800 Subject: BOC: Toad's Tickets In-Reply-To: <200202112315.SAA03066@mail6.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: thanks so very much. are you going? Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com From coral at APORT.RU Tue Feb 12 10:08:21 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:08:21 +0300 Subject: OFF: Yassassim Message-ID: Hello! I'm curious who is playing on this album except Simon House or he plays everything by himself? BTW, it's wonderful album. Alisa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Feb 12 13:06:14 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:06:14 -0500 Subject: OFF: Asteroid #4 Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just a quick word to mention this tour. Asteroid No. 4 are a band from Philadelphia that I first discovered three years ago or so. I met up with them in Detroit and wrote about them in A-I.com a couple times. Their debut CD (Introducing the...Asteroid No. 4) was really strong I thought (one track from that appeared on the recent Space Rock CDR set I sent to some people here), an interesting mix of modern and retro stylings. Their second effort was more purely 60s retro like Elephant 6 stuff, and I was less enthusiastic. I thought they'd gone on hiatus for awhile (not sure about that), but anyway, they're going on tour starting today. The lineup (according to asteroidno4.com) is completely different than just a few years back (only one guy seems to have remained from the original), now a five piece with one female. So they might be yet different, though I'm guessing they're some sort of neo-psychedelia still....but perhaps a more poppish (?) variety? Who can say? Anyway, here are the dates. BJM is a familiar name (perhaps the headliner here?) but I've never heard them. Dead Meadow I remember seeing in Pittsburgh once - they were a real throw-back heavy psych trio, like Blue Cheer. Sorta Sabbathy at times too. Not anything brilliant, but their heart's in the right place. I suppose you'd call them 'stoner rock' now, but they sound more like the original stoners. Grakkl (FAA) Asteroid No. 4 Upcoming Tour Dates with Brian Jonestown Massacre and Dead Meadow: Tue 02/12/02 Westchester , PA Spence Cafe Thu 02/14/02 Washington, DC Metro Cafe Fri 02/15/02 Passaic Park, NJ Loop Lounge Sat 02/16/02 Philadelphia, PA The Khyber Sun 02/17/02 Hoboken, NJ Maxwell's Mon 02/18/02 New York, NY Brownies Wed 02/20/02 Cambridge, MA T.T. The Bear's Thu 02/21/02 Montreal, QC Casa De Popolo Fri 02/22/02 Toronto, ON El Mocambo Club Sat 02/23/02 London, ON Call The Office Sun 02/24/02 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop Mon 02/25/02 Toledo, OH Mickey Finn's Tue 02/26/02 Chicago, IL Schuba's Wed 02/27/02 Minneapolis, MN 400 Bar Thu 02/28/02 Madison, WI The Rathskeller Fri 03/01/02 Iowa City, IA Gabe's Oasis Sat 03/02/02 St. Louis, MO Hi-Pointe From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Tue Feb 12 22:25:05 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 03:25:05 -0000 Subject: HW: Fantasy Line up Alert Message-ID: I've been thinking about this postponed !! Copenhagen Spacerock Festival, which looked more like a prog-rock festival to me, (which doesn't necessarily make it any less of an event, of course), and I was wondering why there isn't a one day British SPACEROCK festival ??? I know they have Strange Daze in the USA, why not have one here in the UK ??? Anyway........... If there was a one day spacerock festival in the UK (or anywhere really) and you could pick the line up, of lets say 5 bands (which are still around today preferably), who would you pick???? My choices would be: Hawkwind, (of course). The Ozric Tentacles, (pure energy live). Mr Quimby's Beard (awesome at the Forum Xmas party) Farflung, (still my favourite US band, and in Europe this summer apparently). and Weltraumstaunen, (a young, but very good German band). I must admit that was harder than I first thought as there was so many to chose from....... Feel free to flame my choices, but please keep in mind that I'm only trying to liven this list up again. Tony Wilson From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 13 00:25:24 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:25:24 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/9/02 Message-ID: SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck NOTE: SDNC will begin airing this week (2/16) at 4pm PST instead of 5 and will continue all the way till 7....possibly even 8!! 2/9 1.Cul de Sac-- "Abandoned Hospital" (I Don't Want to Go to Bed; Thirsty Ear) 2.Mars Everywhere-- "Zoela" (Industrial Sabotage; Random Radar) 3.W.O.O. Revelator-- "Eyefingers" (Taking the Long View; Sweet Stuff Media) 4.Defender-- untitled drum-'n'-bass track (CD-R) 5.Sonic Assassins-- "Magnu/Angels of Life" (Weird Tapes Vol. 1; Hawkwind) 6.Mandragora Lightshow Society-- "Unknown Gem" (Beyond the Mushroam Gate; Liquid Sound) 7.Flowchart-- "Rain Boa Bye" (Cumulus Mood Twang; Carrot Top) 8.Nik Turner-- "10 Seconds of Forever" (Past or Future; Cleopatra) 9.Alien Planetscapes-- "International Sponge" (Space Box comp; Cleopatra) 10.Spirits Burning-- "Second Degree Soul Sparks" (Reflections in a Radio Shower; Musea/Gazul...thanks to Don and Musea!) 11.ST 37-- "Venus Plus X/Glare" (Glare; Helter Skelter/Electric Jug) 12.Abunai!-- "Motorcycle Boots" (Round Wound; Camera Obscura) 13.Pseudo Buddha-- "Seven League Boots" (Motive; Uncle Buzz) 14.Bardo Pond-- "Yellow Turban" (Amanita; Drunken Fish/Matador) 15.Kopecky-- "Crimson Crime 2-1-3" (Orion; M.A.Z.E.) thanks, Chuck From micci at SCI.FI Wed Feb 13 04:37:14 2002 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:37:14 +0200 Subject: HW: Fantasy Line up Alert Message-ID: Hi! >Tony Wilson wrote: >and Weltraumstaunen, (a young, but very good German band). What is this? More info, please. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci email: finn.wind at sci.fi From Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 13 07:10:15 2002 From: Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM (Daniel Jackson) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:10:15 -0000 Subject: HW : Fantasy Line up Alert Message-ID: HAWKWIND SPACEHEAD MQB KREL OZRICS From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 13 08:56:29 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:56:29 EST Subject: HW : Fantasy Line up Alert Message-ID: In a message dated 13/02/02 10:42:17 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, Djsatan.23 at BTINTERNET.COM writes: Hawkwind Gong Alien Dream Bedouin / Ali Davey Star Nation Starfield ok - thats seven - depending how you look at it - so sue me (( tee hee )) From twilson at GMX.CO.UK Wed Feb 13 12:57:15 2002 From: twilson at GMX.CO.UK (Tony Wilson) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:57:15 -0000 Subject: HW: Fantasy Line up Alert Message-ID: Weltraumstaunen are basically a side project of Growing Seeds, Zone Six and Liquid Visions members. Mostly instrumental psychedelic space rock jams and spaced out ambience, or at least that's how the promo material reads. I really like them but don't know much more about them other than they have released a really good album on the German Sysyphus label. Email info at eclipsed.de I believe they also have a very limited edition earlier release on Swamp Room Records http://www.swamp-room.de/ or try their website at www.weltraumstaunen.de Hope this helps Tony Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miikka Wagner" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: HW: Fantasy Line up Alert > Hi! > > >Tony Wilson wrote: > >and Weltraumstaunen, (a young, but very good German band). > > What is this? More info, please. > > Miikka Wagner > email: micci at sci.fi > > Official Finnish Hawkwind Association/ FinnWind > http://www.saunalahti.fi/micci > email: finn.wind at sci.fi > From spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM Wed Feb 13 13:38:23 2002 From: spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM (Mr -Dibs) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:38:23 -0500 Subject: re; HW: Fantasy lineup Message-ID: UK really needs a Spacerock Festival, the bands are there, we just need a promoter to take it on. HAWKWIND SPACEHEAD OZRICS KREL MQB there are many more UK psych/space bands out there, and I'm sure verkidz are sick of listening to whining american rich kids. (no offence to yanks, but there are some really sh#te bands out there). From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 13 15:02:28 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:02:28 -0000 Subject: re; HW: Fantasy lineup Message-ID: I dunno. The sad thing is does anyone really care anymore? I've got 6 neices and they've grown up (through no real fault of their parents who have a fairly extensive collection of albums of considerable musical depth) on a diet of boy-bands and romantic pap-songs. This is actually what they enjoy! They want to be emotionally entertained by kids their own age and to dream that it could, maybe, be themselves doing that. One or two of them are taking a deeper interest in music as music but they are heading off into jazz and swing and classical and folk. And that seems to be it. I wonder if music interest is going to have to go right back to its roots before emerging into rock (electronic, space rock, whatever) again. Just a thought jill. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Mr -Dibs To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:38 PM Subject: re; HW: Fantasy lineup > UK really needs a Spacerock Festival, the bands are there, we just need a > promoter to take it on. > HAWKWIND > SPACEHEAD > OZRICS > KREL > MQB > there are many more UK psych/space bands out there, and I'm sure verkidz > are sick of listening to whining american rich kids. (no offence to yanks, > but there are some really sh#te bands out there). > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Feb 13 15:50:21 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:50:21 -0500 Subject: OFF: Terrastock 5 In-Reply-To: <3C5FF609.26686.1B7FCBB@localhost> Message-ID: Theo wrote: >> TERRASTOCK 5 - INTERNATIONAL MUSIC FESTIVAL COMING TO BOSTON AREA > > Wish I was going! Maybe I can console myself by going to the > SAMMY award show here in Syr. DAMN, I missed it! Had I gone, I > could have heard your namesake and B?C collaborator [gawd it > hurts typing that] Rob Halligan, backed by his current group, Ceili > Rain, billed as a Celtic-rock band! Must be the ever-flexible Rob > figured to hop aboard the Riverdance bandwagon? Sorry I couldn't reply sooner. My e-mail's been on the fritz. Yeah, Rob's had Ceili Rain (one of the album covers has a nod to Skynyrd. It says "Pronounced Kay-Lee") for a while now. They're not only on the Celtic bandwagon, they're on the Nashville bandwagon too. He moved the band down there a few years ago. > Anyone good playing in Roch these days? Gov't Mule is playing here next Friday at the Water Street Music Hall. Bardo Pond plays The Bug Jar March. 26. Unfortunately, I'll be in NYC with my girlfriend while The Mule is kicking Rochester. > I was in town a few > weeks ago at the House of Guitars buying myself a birthday present Happy Birthday! Brian From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Feb 13 15:52:19 2002 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:52:19 -0500 Subject: OFF: Terrastock 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dan Witt wrote: > Sure looks like a cool line up. Anybody here planning on going? Chris Raymond replied: > I plan on going to Terrastock. I have not been to one yet. I did not know > about the one in Providence until it was over. I'll definitely be there! I've been hoping Terrastock would come back to the Northeast. Brian From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 13 18:29:21 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:29:21 +0300 Subject: OFF: ICU "The Maximum Effect on cd... cdr" Message-ID: Hello I received recently a copy of recently re-issued my favourite album of ICU. And what I see and hear? For what I paid rather big money? It's a crappy cdr in crappy packaging. Even couldn't make a booklet at least. And recording itself - where is definitive quality recording? It's badly tranferred from vinyl! And even with awful clicks and gaps between the tracks. Alisa From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Feb 13 18:26:04 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:26:04 -0500 Subject: re; HW: Fantasy lineup Message-ID: NO!! not some...LOTS!!! tim Mr -Dibs wrote: > > UK really needs a Spacerock Festival, the bands are there, we just need a > promoter to take it on. > HAWKWIND > SPACEHEAD > OZRICS > KREL > MQB > there are many more UK psych/space bands out there, and I'm sure verkidz > are sick of listening to whining american rich kids. (no offence to yanks, > but there are some really sh#te bands out there). From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Wed Feb 13 22:27:12 2002 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:27:12 EST Subject: OFF: Asteroid #4/Dead Meadow Message-ID: In a message dated 2/12/2002 1:27:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > Asteroid No. 4 > Upcoming Tour Dates with Brian Jonestown Massacre and Dead Meadow: > > Tue 02/12/02 Westchester , PA Spence Cafe > Thu 02/14/02 Washington, DC Metro Cafe > Fri 02/15/02 Passaic Park, NJ Loop Lounge > Sat 02/16/02 Philadelphia, PA The Khyber I don't know about the other dates on this tour, but Dead Meadow is playing the same night with Asteroid 4 at the Philly show. If you get a chance to catch them, it should be a good gig bob From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 14 00:43:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:43:19 EST Subject: re; HW: Fantasy lineup Message-ID: In a message dated 14/02/02 5:08:47 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, spacehead at STONEDVISIONARY.COM writes: > there are many more UK psych/space bands out there, and I'm sure verkidz > are sick of listening to whining american rich kids. (no offence to yanks, > but there are some really sh#te bands out there). > Don't forget us liddle ole Aussie / Nz bands too :-P From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 14 00:51:29 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:51:29 EST Subject: re; HW: Fantasy lineup Message-ID: In a message dated 14/02/02 6:38:12 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > And that seems to be it. I wonder if music interest is going to have > to go right back to its roots before emerging into rock (electronic, > space rock, whatever) again. > It all goes round and round. and it has been the same thruout history. Its always gonna be the same - kids looking for that special something to identify with. It's really up to the fans to rally behind the bands and artists we love to keep it alive of course - its not always that simple - I know - work and commitments etc But surely there must be enough die hard fans to make such festivals a big hit - and a pleasant and positive experience at the same time. The Jule / July festival ought to be a great opportunity to prove this - plenty of time to plan guys :-) From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Thu Feb 14 11:52:51 2002 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Sumner) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:52:51 -0500 Subject: OFF: Metropolis Message-ID: And for all the former 1982 videogamers and home computer geeks, Tron 20th Anniversary Edition DVD came out in January. Region 1 only at the moment I'm afraid. Regards, Alastair. On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:41:22 -0500, Rik Rx wrote: >For those who care...... > >Fritz Lang's classic 1927 sci-fi film METROPOLIS >is out on DVD on Feb 19th for $7.95 !!! >at Amazon.com > >hey... From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 14 12:08:35 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:08:35 EST Subject: OFF: Metropolis Message-ID: In a message dated 15/02/02 3:23:07 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK writes: > And for all the former 1982 videogamers and home computer geeks, Tron 20th > Anniversary Edition DVD came out in January. Region 1 only at the moment > I'm afraid. > Tron!!! LoL - wow last time I saw that I was stoned off me ass - Jeff Bridges right? blast from the past From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Feb 14 12:45:30 2002 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:45:30 +0100 Subject: Off: Weltraumstaunen Message-ID: Weltraumstaunen is a studio only project by Dave Schmidt (of Liquid Visions) and Silke and Andy Heinrich (of Growing Seeds). The one and only self titled debut album was originally released in 1999 as a ltd. edition (500) vinyl album on Nasoni Records. There?s an interview in the latest issue of German magazine "Eclipsed". Growing Seeds, Liquid Visions and a lot of other side projects will release quite a few records this year. But there are no plans for doing a 2nd Weltraumstaunen album, sadly. Andreas Tony Wilson wrote: > Weltraumstaunen are basically a side project of Growing Seeds, Zone Six and > Liquid Visions members. Mostly instrumental psychedelic space rock jams and > spaced out ambience, or at least that's how the promo material reads. > I really like them but don't know much more about them other than they have > released a really good album on the German Sysyphus label. Email > info at eclipsed.de > I believe they also have a very limited edition earlier release on Swamp > Room Records http://www.swamp-room.de/ or try their website at > www.weltraumstaunen.de > > Hope this helps > Tony Wilson From dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM Thu Feb 14 12:48:39 2002 From: dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM (Babylon Hythe) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:48:39 -0000 Subject: OFF: Metropolis In-Reply-To: <9d.2321677c.299d4913@aol.com> Message-ID: Tron!!! LoL - wow last time I saw that I was stoned off me ass - Jeff Bridges right? Yep, and Bruce Boxleitener (spelling?) for he is the one that is - Capt Sheridan. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Dave From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 14 18:20:18 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:20:18 EST Subject: OFF: Metropolis Message-ID: In a message dated 2/14/02 12:53:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM writes: > Tron!!! LoL - wow last time I saw that I was stoned off me ass - Jeff > Bridges right? > > Yep, and Bruce Boxleitener (spelling?) for he is the one that is - Capt > Sheridan. > Didya also notice that Peter Jurasik (Londo) was also in Tron. He's the first "guy" Bridges fights on the game floor. Joe From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Feb 14 21:08:35 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:08:35 -0500 Subject: OFF: Metropolis Message-ID: Hard to believe that it was once `the cutting edge of motion picture technology'!!!! tim Joe Loehr wrote: > > In a message dated 2/14/02 12:53:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM writes: > > > > Tron!!! LoL - wow last time I saw that I was stoned off me ass - Jeff > > Bridges right? > > > > Yep, and Bruce Boxleitener (spelling?) for he is the one that is - Capt > > Sheridan. > > > > Didya also notice that Peter Jurasik (Londo) was also in Tron. He's the first > "guy" Bridges fights on the game floor. > > Joe From mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM Thu Feb 14 22:33:08 2002 From: mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM (Duc de Montfort) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:33:08 -0800 Subject: re; HW: Fantasy lineup In-Reply-To: <002101c1b4c9$5dc803e0$96d0193e@jds> Message-ID: Though we are not English.. My 8 yr old son loves Hawkwind. We live in Upstate NY, the home of "Uncle Sam" (the real person). My I was explaining Uncle Sam to him and he said.. Like Uncle Sam on Mars? So we lay the foundations that we can. Le Duc --- Jill Strobridge wrote: > I dunno. The sad thing is does anyone really care > anymore? I've got > 6 neices and they've grown up (through no real fault > of their parents > who have a fairly extensive collection of albums of > considerable musical > depth) on a diet of boy-bands and romantic > pap-songs. This is > actually what they enjoy! They want to be > emotionally entertained by > kids their own age and to dream that it could, > maybe, be themselves > doing that. > > One or two of them are taking a deeper interest in > music as music but > they are heading off into jazz and swing and > classical and folk. > > And that seems to be it. I wonder if music > interest is going to have > to go right back to its roots before emerging into > rock (electronic, > space rock, whatever) again. > > Just a thought > jill. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mr -Dibs > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:38 PM > Subject: re; HW: Fantasy lineup > > > > UK really needs a Spacerock Festival, the bands > are there, we just > need a > > promoter to take it on. > > HAWKWIND > > SPACEHEAD > > OZRICS > > KREL > > MQB > > there are many more UK psych/space bands out > there, and I'm sure > verkidz > > are sick of listening to whining american rich > kids. (no offence to > yanks, > > but there are some really sh#te bands out there). > > ===== Duc De Montfort http://profiles.yahoo.com/mikemontfort Le Duc's Trade list http://www.geocities.com/mikemontfort/index.html ________________________________________ The superior man makes the difficulty to be overcome his first interest; success only comes later. Confucius __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Got something to say? Say it better with Yahoo! Video Mail http://mail.yahoo.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Feb 15 00:52:21 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 00:52:21 EST Subject: HW: Angels/Magnu on Weird 1 Message-ID: ...Hello... Been listening to the "Magnu/Angels of Light" track from Weird Tapes 1. It's different than the Anthology/Acid Daze version I'm used to. There are added keyboards all the way up to the Calvert rant that sound like Brock circa '80. Did he add these in when initially putting out the Weird tape?? very curious... Also...when Bob's rant starts, I noticed that it sounds like the same gig as the X-mas '77 Sonic Assassins gig...is this correct as well? It'd make sense, since it is included with the rest of that EP on this disc... Bernie, Doug, Keith, Mike...anyone...help me out! This is afterall the tune that really turned me on to the Hawks in the first place, and will never lose that special mystique. I also will always wonder about the instrumentation...it sounds like there's flute in there, though if it's '77, no Nik... thanks, Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Feb 15 00:59:38 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 00:59:38 EST Subject: OFF: New Farflung Albums Message-ID: I just got a package w/the two new discs... the soundtrack album, When Science Fails (Falcata-Galia/Transparency), is very good, definitely not the entire 'flung experience, though, being mostly like their slower, more ambient parts. The album (still to be released, this is just a CD-R) for Brainticket includes four tunes from the unreleased Myth album, and out-takes that seem to be from the same sessions. "Prototype of a Traveller" has vocals now...i don't think it did before. "Some in the Water" is the closing track to the Science album. So that leaves only two tracks from the Myth disc not released..."When I Awoke to Sleep No More" is a real mind-blower, too bad that wasn't included... Chuck From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Feb 15 06:41:13 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:41:13 +0000 Subject: NIK: ICU on CDR Message-ID: Hi ya, All of ICU's back catalogue (except the album without Nik) is availabe abosoutly free from http://doremi.co.uk/icu !!! Its all mp3 format, Where the mp3's are of records it does sound to me as if they are recordings from vynal. But they are all good no scratches I'll do everything ICU did on 8 cdr's (includes Calvert and Imperial Pompadors) These are mostly recordings from my vynal, but not all (Maximum Effect is now fixed so no 2 second gaps), for swaps or similar. Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing friends. Chris -- How wonderful opera would be if there were no singers. From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Fri Feb 15 07:44:53 2002 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Lee Sumner) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 07:44:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Metropolis Message-ID: There is a 'Making of' documentary on disk 2 where it is explained how they did the CG parts like the lightcycle sequence. There was no animation software to visualise it and all the numbers had to be worked out. Then they would give the lists of thousands of numbers to the programmers and they would type them all into the computer. It's not really special effects that do it for me though. It's the idea of the film, a world inside the computer. When it was originally shown there were captions at the beginning where the idea was explained because the makers thought that it would go over most people's heads at the time. Only computer people and arcade kids would get it. Also this was a very visionary and experimental film for which the makers had alot of passion. So even though it's cheesy in parts and apparently didn't do as well as expected at the box office, with it's heavy backlit animation and strange music by Wendy Carlos, I think it still remains unique. Anyway, the idea of vehicles that turn at pure right angles has never been bettered and is the reason why I haven't been listening to much Hawkwind since I got the DVD :) Oh yeah, and there are rumours of a Tron 2.0 Regards, Alastair. On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:08:35 -0500, Tim wrote: >Hard to believe that it was once `the cutting edge of motion picture >technology'!!!! >tim >Joe Loehr wrote: > > > > In a message dated 2/14/02 12:53:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, > > dave.bunn at NTLWORLD.COM writes: > > > > > > > Tron!!! LoL - wow last time I saw that I was stoned off me ass - Jeff > > > Bridges right? > > > > > > Yep, and Bruce Boxleitener (spelling?) for he is the one that is - Capt > > > Sheridan. > > > > > > > Didya also notice that Peter Jurasik (Londo) was also in Tron. He's the first > > "guy" Bridges fights on the game floor. > > > > Joe From coral at APORT.RU Fri Feb 15 08:37:04 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:37:04 +0300 Subject: NIK: ICU on CDR Message-ID: > Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing > friends. Well... ICU lost one. And I guess that Trev is so rude and furious because I don't have any respect for "celebrities" when it concerns my money. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 15 08:30:07 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:30:07 -0500 Subject: NIK: ICU on CDR Message-ID: Chris said... >All of ICU's back catalogue (except the album without Nik) is availabe >abosoutly free from http://doremi.co.uk/icu !!! > >Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing >friends. Nik (through the Collins family) were offering some things on CDR at Strange Daze for $10 apiece. I thought that was fair. I got Passout (dubbed from the Oldhitz release with lots of bonus tracks) and a live recording of a F/i gig with Nik guesting (perhaps a warmup performance from the 1994 tour?) which wasn't too bad. But if people are selling them under the guise of being official and such, that's pretty sad. Keith From coral at APORT.RU Fri Feb 15 09:15:30 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:15:30 +0300 Subject: NIK: ICU on CDR Message-ID: > Nik (through the Collins family) were offering some things on CDR at Strange > Daze for $10 apiece. I thought that was fair. I got Passout (dubbed But if it costs 12 UKP? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 15 09:07:59 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:07:59 -0500 Subject: NIK: ICU on CDR Message-ID: Alice replies... >> Nik (through the Collins family) were offering some things on CDR at >> Strange Daze for $10 apiece. I thought that was fair. I got Passout > >But if it costs 12 UKP? It's too much. I'd complain. Grakkl (FAA) From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Fri Feb 15 15:57:38 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 20:57:38 +0000 Subject: NIK: ICU on CDR Message-ID: Hi ya, Why take it out on ICU? ICU are still the _ONLY_ group with a decent back catalogue who make everything they did available for free!!!! I don't think anyone else does that, I don't quite understand why they do it but they do and get my respect for it. Ok it takes ages to download everything, but at least its there. I would have paid very big bucks for a copy of Erstaz cause there wern't too many pressed, but there it is on the site.... free! Chris Alice wrote: > > > Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing > > friends. > > Well... ICU lost one. > > And I guess that Trev is so rude and furious because I don't have any > respect for "celebrities" when it concerns my money. -- How wonderful opera would be if there were no singers. From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Feb 15 16:22:05 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (rich w) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:22:05 -0600 Subject: :-) Message-ID: On Channel Love if you're around From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 15 18:35:58 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:35:58 -0000 Subject: HW: Angels/Magnu on Weird 1 Message-ID: Ah - yet another reason (as if there aren't already enough) why the Codex needs to be updated! I'll enclose (at the end of this message) the entries for tracks on the Wierd 101 tape which I hope will answer some questions. However it's interesting that you say Magnu and Angels of Light are different on the Wierd 1 CD from the Acid Daze versions. That definitely needs checking. Sometimes, though, cleaning up the sound brings out instruments you didn't realise were there previously - its just an improved quality rather than anything new. Just a thought jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- Over the Top L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock L 1 Sonic Assassins 12" EP L 1 Independent Days, Vol. I L 1 Victoria double album L 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 L 1 The Hawklords Live L 1 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram] L 1 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD L 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD * This also includes The Awakening Magnu 1 Warrior On The Edge Of Time 1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] 1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology L 2 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock L 2 British Tribal Music L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II L 2 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] L 2 Acid Daze Vol. II L 2 Castle Masters Collection L 2 Night Riding {unlisted} L 2 Masters of the Universe [Marble Arch] {unlisted} L 2 Spirit of the Age [Elite compilation] {unlisted} L 2 The Hawkwind Collection {unlisted} L 2 Ironstrike {unlisted} L 2 Best of Hawkwind {unlisted} L 2 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) L 2 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] {unlisted} L 2 Silver Machine Live 12" EP L 2 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] L 2 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] L 2 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] {unlisted} L 2 a Silver Machine/Magnu 7" L 2 a Silver Machine/Magnu 7" motorbike shaped pic disk L 3 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] L 4 The Golden Void L 4 a Live 1982 L 5 Orgasmatron L 6 Live Chronicles L 7 Live At Reading '86 * Magnu is not listed on the tracklist of some albums but appears as part of the Magnu/Angels of Death live version. * 2a is a faded cut of 2 * This track appears both on Live Chronicles and on the Bonus compilation CD which accompanied the Castle release Angels Of Death L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock {Angels of Life} L 1 British Tribal Music L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. II L 1 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] L 1 Acid Daze Vol. II L 1 The Hawkwind Collection L 1 Ironstrike L 1 Masters of The Universe [Marble Arch Rock CD] L 1 Night Riding L 1 Silver Machine Live 12" EP L 1 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] L 1 Best of Hawkwind L 1 Space Is Deep L 1 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] L 1 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] L 1 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] L 2 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic L 2 Independent Days, Vol. II L 2 Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD L 2 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) L 2 The Stonehenge Collection L 3 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] 4 Sonic Attack 4 Angels of Death 4 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] 4 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology 4 a Angels of Death/ Trans Dimensional Man 7" 4 a Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of L 5 The Golden Void L 5 a Live 1982 L 6 Orgasmatron L 7 Live Chronicles L 7 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] L 8 Live At Reading '86 L 9 Undisclosed Files L 9 The Emergency Broadcast System Samples L 10 Glastonbury 90 * 4a is a cut of 4 * 5a is from the same tour as 5 Free Fall L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock L 1 Sonic Assassins 12" EP L 1 Victoria double album L 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 L 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD 2 Hawklords L 3 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 Death Trap L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock L 1 Sonic Assassins 12" EP L 1 Victoria double album L 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 L 1 Golden Void 1969 -79 CD 2 PXR5 2 Psi Power/ Deathtrap 7" 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology L 3 Weird 104 - Hawklords/Hawkwind Live 1978 L 3 a The Hawklords Live L 4 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic L 4 Zones/Stonehenge CD L 4 The Stonehenge Collection 5 Area S4 EP 5 Alien4 L 6 Theta Orionis [bootleg CD] L 7 Love In Space * 3 and 3a are from the same tour Nuclear Toy 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock 2 Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Nuclear Toy 7" 2 Levitation [Griffin CD Only] 2 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] Who's Gonna Win The War? L 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock L 1 a Friends And Relations I L 1 a Victoria double album L 1 a Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Flicknife] L 1 b Night Of The Hawk L 1 b Independent Days, Vol. I L 1 b Independent Days Volumes 1&2 CD L 1 c Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Time of 7" L 2 The Complete '79 L 2 a Live - St.Albans 1979 3 Levitation 3 Ironstrike 3 Masters of The Universe [ Marble Arch Rock CD] 3 Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] 3 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] 3 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] 3 Live Chronicles [Castle 2CD bonus compilation disc] 3 a Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Nuclear Toy 7" [original release] 3 a Sonic Boom Killers 3 b Who's Gonna Win the War?/ Nuclear Toy 7" [rerelease] L 4 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette] L 4 The Hawkwind Collection L 4 Castle Masters Collection {The War} L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I L 4 The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] L 4 Acid Daze Vol. I L 4 Space Is Deep L 4 Best of Hawkwind L 4 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) L 4 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] L 4 Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] * 1a, 1b, and 1c are edits & remixes of 1 * 2a is from the same tour as 2 * 3a is an edit of 3 * 3b is an edit of 3a * the end of version 4 has been slightly cut short Assassination 1 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins {The Dream I;Assassination;The Dream II} 2 Church of Hawkwind {Some People Never Die} 2 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos CD 2 Earthed to the Ground 2 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology {Some People Never Die} * 2 is based on demo version 1 The Phenomenon of Luminosity L 1 The Complete '79 {Satellite} 2 Church of Hawkwind [LP and CD] 2 Weird 101 - Sonic Assasins/ Dave Brock {Satellite} ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Rosenberg To: Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 5:52 AM Subject: HW: Angels/Magnu on Weird 1 > ...Hello... > > Been listening to the "Magnu/Angels of Light" track from Weird Tapes 1. It's > different than the Anthology/Acid Daze version I'm used to. There are added > keyboards all the way up to the Calvert rant that sound like Brock circa '80. > Did he add these in when initially putting out the Weird tape?? very > curious... > > Also...when Bob's rant starts, I noticed that it sounds like the same gig as > the X-mas '77 Sonic Assassins gig...is this correct as well? It'd make sense, > since it is included with the rest of that EP on this disc... > > Bernie, Doug, Keith, Mike...anyone...help me out! This is afterall the tune > that really turned me on to the Hawks in the first place, and will never lose > that special mystique. I also will always wonder about the > instrumentation...it sounds like there's flute in there, though if it's '77, > no Nik... > > thanks, Chuck > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Feb 15 19:10:32 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:10:32 -0500 Subject: HW: Angels/Magnu on Weird 1 Message-ID: On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:35:58 -0000, Jill Strobridge wrote: >Ah - yet another reason (as if there aren't already enough) why the >Codex needs to be updated! ... Don't forget that I already wrote up all the info needed to update the Codex with Weird 101-105. The message can be found in the boc-l archives: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0011D&L=BOC-L&P=R247 Regarding the two tracks in question, I wrote: >Magnu (3.19) [3.12] same as version 2 in the Codex >Angels of Death (5.16) [1.11] version 1 in the Codex should become > version 1a (fades out) This becomes version 1 in the Codex The timings in (parentheses) are as on Weird 101, the timings in [brackets] are from The 'Sonic Assassins' EP and its numerous reissues (Cleopatra's 'Golden Void' collection, to be specific in this case). I also wrote this regarding the differences, which seems to match what Chuck's saying about the different versions: >There's Bob's rant (and a lot more jamming) at the end of >"Angels of Death", as someone else mentioned. The tracks >also sound like different mixes than the releases on Flicknife >etc. - the synth noises are a bit more prevalent in a few places, >but it's not a significant difference. ... I don't think that these tracks saw any post-performance overdubbing (but that's just conjecture, albeit informed conjecture, on my part), unlike, say, "Valium Ten" (the KEYBOARD parts for that song were recorded "live" in real-time by Steve Swindells, the SYNTH parts were overdubbed by Brock after-the-fact). Like Jill suggested, things probably just came out sounding slightly different when the recordings were remastered (by the same guy who mastered 'Yule Ritual', about which I had an insignificant whiney complaint about the mastering job) for CD release. Compression and EQ can sometimes bring out parts of a track that you couldn't previously hear, or might change the perceived tonality of some of the instruments. But the only important statement in this message is: if you've only heard the short version of the Sonic Assassins' "Angels of Life"/"Angels of Death", you NEED to get Weird 101 to hear the full recording! -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Feb 15 19:16:09 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:16:09 -0500 Subject: OFF: Spacemen3 Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:15:56 -0500, Stephan Forstner wrote: >> The story of how Loop and Spacemen 3 "relate" is very funny ... > >Do tell us please! The gist of the story, ***according to Pete (Sonic Boom) Kember*** is that Robert Hanson (Hampton? I forget his last name) of Loop used to go to all the early Spacemen 3 shows and ask them about what bands he should listen to. He basically accuses Loop of being 100% Spacemen 3 ripoff (I think there's *some* truth to that, but nowhere near 100%!). Unfortunately, I haven't had time to dig through my back issues of Forced Exposure to find the interview by Nigel Cross where Pete mentions this (and I'm out-of-town this weekend, so I don't know when I'll ever have time). Great interview (it's also the one where Sonic talks about how much he hates Hawkwind - I guess I should try to dig it up for that quote! On the other hand, the main reason I first checked out Spacemen 3 was because 'Bucketfull of Brains' magazine described the beginning of 'Sound of Confusion' as sounding like the beginning of "Silver Machine".). -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 15 19:48:56 2002 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:48:56 -0000 Subject: HW: Angels/Magnu on Weird 1 Message-ID: oops - yes you did. And I still have a copy of your messages waiting to be incorporated into the main list. Carelessly I didn't check them before posting. Sorry! jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:10 AM Subject: Re: HW: Angels/Magnu on Weird 1 > On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:35:58 -0000, Jill Strobridge ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote: > >Ah - yet another reason (as if there aren't already enough) why the > >Codex needs to be updated! ... > > Don't forget that I already wrote up all the info needed to update the > Codex with Weird 101-105. The message can be found in the boc-l archives: > http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0011D&L=BOC-L&P=R247 > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 15 22:08:15 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:08:15 EST Subject: :-) Message-ID: In a message dated 16/02/02 7:53:56 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > On Channel Love if you're around You talking to me?? Krikey..... What is that famous saying, Arthur - King of the Britons would use at a time such as this...... ah yesss!!! Ruuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn AAAAwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!! ;-) From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Sat Feb 16 02:49:23 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?=) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 07:49:23 +0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgUmU6IE5JSzogSUNVIG9uIENEUg==?= Message-ID: Chris, I think its fantastic that there is so much back catalogue to download for free. Big THANKS to Steve Pond who runs the site. Respect due mate! Mark -- Mark Von Bargen mark.von-bargen at genieone.co.uk - email ---- Chris Gibbs wrote: ---------------- Hi ya, Why take it out on ICU? ICU are still the _ONLY_ group with a decent back catalogue who make everything they did available for free!!!! I don't think anyone else does that, I don't quite understand why they do it but they do and get my respect for it. Ok it takes ages to download everything, but at least its there. I would have paid very big bucks for a copy of Erstaz cause there wern't too many pressed, but there it is on the site.... free! Chris Alice wrote: > > > Anyone selling ICU cdr's for big money is having a laugth, and loosing > > friends. > > Well... ICU lost one. > > And I guess that Trev is so rude and furious because I don't have any > respect for "celebrities" when it concerns my money. -- How wonderful opera would be if there were no singers. ---------------- __________________________________________________ Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Feb 16 03:32:04 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 02:32:04 -0600 Subject: OFF: Re: :-) Message-ID: LOL. LOL. LOL. Remind me to check the reply fields on messages ;-) Rolls Around On the Floor Laughing. That message Should Have Been Offlist Apologies. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 9:08 PM Subject: Re: :-) > In a message dated 16/02/02 7:53:56 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > > > On Channel Love if you're around > > You talking to me?? > > Krikey..... What is that famous saying, Arthur - King of the Britons would > use at a time such as this...... > > ah yesss!!! > > Ruuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn AAAAwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!! ;-) From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Feb 16 09:51:27 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:51:27 +0800 Subject: Sweet drummer dies Message-ID: Hi all Here's some sad news for anyone out there who are fans of The Sweet. The following info comes via a Sweet web site. William I have the sad news to bring that today, Thursday February 14th 2002, Mick Tucker, drummer with the 70's glam rock supergroup - Sweet, passed away in hospital at 11.35am this morning. He had been fighting against complications brought on by the leukemia which he survived five years ago. He is left by his wife Janet and daughter Aislyn who were with him by his bedside. Stewart Roney Email: stewart at thesweet.com Web: http://www.thesweet.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Feb 16 10:24:50 2002 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (KevinSommers) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:24:50 -0700 Subject: New e-mail address Message-ID: Please note I've changed ISPs, and my new e-mail address is: novadrive at cox.net KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Sat Feb 16 12:58:46 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:58:46 -0000 Subject: OFF: Spacemen3 Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:15:56 -0500, Stephan Forstner > wrote: > >> The story of how Loop and Spacemen 3 "relate" is very funny ... > > > >Do tell us please! > > The gist of the story, ***according to Pete (Sonic Boom) Kember*** is that > Robert Hanson (Hampton? I forget his last name) of Loop used to go to all > the early Spacemen 3 shows and ask them about what bands he should listen > to. He basically accuses Loop of being 100% Spacemen 3 ripoff (I think > there's *some* truth to that, but nowhere near 100%!). Sonic Boom - more like Sonic Bigmouth, Sonic Bighead, Sonic Serious Attitude Problem. He probably hated HW coz it was the right thing to do, the serious 'right-on' artist that he is. He may be talented but is like the footballer that all his team mates hate. Mark From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Feb 16 14:16:12 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:16:12 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Tonight Message-ID: Just to remind those interested that SDNC will begin airing tonight an hour early, starting at 4pm PST, instead of 5. And it may also continue till 8! (4pm PST is 7pm EST, midnight Brit time (Greenwich??...sorry, smegheads...) Expect to hear some new Farflung, Steve Hillage, Defender, Kingston Wall, Spirits Burning, Psyhic TV, Vas Deferens Org, Mandragora Lightshow Society, Igra Stakleaih Perli, Legendary Pink Dots and plenty more of the usual (and unusual) stuff... thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 16 14:55:45 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:55:45 -0000 Subject: Offish: CDR clicks at track points In-Reply-To: <200201201849.NAA12676@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi all, OK, it's not directly Hawkwind so apologies in advance for that (although it is a Hawkwind concert tape that I am burning) but some of you may have come across this before and know the fix. I am using an app called Sonar to process WAVs and splitting these up prior to burning onto CD. The problem I am getting is that there is a slight click at each track point on the completed CD. When the audio is played across the split point within Sonar there is no click. However, on the final CD, if I jump straight to a track, there is no click but if I rewind slightly and play the last few seconds of the previous track, it clicks at the track marker point. I am using either Nero 5.5 or Prassi PrimoDVD 2.0 to burn the CDs and always burn at a slow speed using Disc At Once with no track lead-ins. The clicking problem happens with both Nero and Prassi. I have wasted far too many CDRs trying to fix this problem. Does anyone know what is causing it and how to fix it? I'll be very grateful for any advice on this matter. Many thanks, Mark From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Feb 16 15:06:34 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 15:06:34 -0500 Subject: Offish: CDR clicks at track points In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Mark Edmonds wrote: => I am using an app called Sonar to process WAVs and splitting these up prior => to burning onto CD. The problem I am getting is that there is a slight click => at each track point on the completed CD. You are not splitting the WAVs on CD sector boundaries (2352 bytes/588 stereo samples). So, these are being padded with zeros during burning, to make them up to the correct sector length, which manifests itself as tiny clicks at track transitions. The solution: cut on CD sector boundaries. CDWAVE will do this. Shntool can also fix audio so it's correctly aligned on CD sector boundaries. Alternatively, if you use Windows, you could use Feurio! to burn---it has a mode to round track breaks to the nearest sector (or words to that effect---I don't use Feurio! as I don't use Windows). There is a link to CDWAVE at http://www.etree.org/cdwave.html Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Sat Feb 16 15:09:57 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:09:57 -0600 Subject: Off: CDR clicks at track points Message-ID: Yes your sector boundaries are incorrect. Use a program that splits them correctly, like CDwave. For the best info go to a website that deals with this topic, or usenet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Edmonds" To: Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: Offish: CDR clicks at track points > Hi all, > > OK, it's not directly Hawkwind so apologies in advance for that (although it > is a Hawkwind concert tape that I am burning) but some of you may have come > across this before and know the fix. > > I am using an app called Sonar to process WAVs and splitting these up prior > to burning onto CD. The problem I am getting is that there is a slight click > at each track point on the completed CD. > > When the audio is played across the split point within Sonar there is no > click. However, on the final CD, if I jump straight to a track, there is no > click but if I rewind slightly and play the last few seconds of the previous > track, it clicks at the track marker point. > > I am using either Nero 5.5 or Prassi PrimoDVD 2.0 to burn the CDs and always > burn at a slow speed using Disc At Once with no track lead-ins. The clicking > problem happens with both Nero and Prassi. > > I have wasted far too many CDRs trying to fix this problem. Does anyone know > what is causing it and how to fix it? > > I'll be very grateful for any advice on this matter. > > Many thanks, > > Mark > From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 16 17:40:28 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:40:28 -0000 Subject: Offish: CDR clicks at track points In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My thanks for all the replies - I was thinking it might be something to do with zero crossing points or whatever but didn't consider sector boundaries... Anyway, all being well, I can now finalise my Acid Daze I burn which I'll post for trading soon. CDWave being downloaded as I type. Thanks again, Mark From hw at CY-B.ORG Sat Feb 16 17:50:24 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:50:24 -0500 Subject: HW: Pix Updates on MC Message-ID: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: STAR WARRIORS.... + + + + New submitted Pix Pages added to Winter Tour pages on Mission Control.... Edinburgh, Leeds, Walthamstow, Hitchin http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/gigs/aut_2001/Edinburgh/pix.htm More pix to come including soundcheck and behind the scenes..... MESSAGE ENDS+ + :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Earth Browser Gateways: www.hawkwind.org.uk www.hawkwind.info (to come soon...) www.hawkestra.info www.hawkwind.com (????? stay tuned) From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 17 07:53:37 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:53:37 -0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: <200202162250.RAA01464@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I have a complete 6 disc Hawkestra set available for trade. It was done for someone who didn't send me the correct number of blanks in the first place and then disappeared. I've been holding on to it for months now in the off chance but have now decided to get rid of it to clear shelf space. First to contact me off list (2 for 1 trade or what have you) has it. (I'll burn another set if the original guy gets back in touch). Mark From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Sun Feb 17 07:59:46 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:59:46 +0000 Subject: OFF: Mixing It Message-ID: Hi ya, If you are not in the UK don't despair... All this is (or will be) on the BBC's web site together with RealTime videos of past performances. I guess not too many people on the disscussion are regular Radio Three listeneers;-) So maybe you don't know about Mixing It. Mixing It airs 11:00pm - 12:00 Sunday nights and concists of live experimental/electronic music. If you want weird its here! Not just weird but good live improvisation, past programs have even included Jah Wobble (also on the bbc web site) Tonight seems to be mainly provided by Icelandic freaks: Sunday 17 February 2002, 11pm Recorded at Ocean 2, Hackney, London, Monday 11 February 2002 Curver Curver is the alias of Birgir Vrn Thoroddsen, record producer, DJ and performance artist from Reykjavik Music details: The Hackney Suite: A piece improvised on 3 turntables and 2 CD players, incorporating extracts from the following tracks... Nic Endo White Heat (Digital Hardcore Recordings DHR 22) Process Untitled (FatCat Records 12 FAT 021) Foreigner I Want to Know What Love Is The Techniques Drink Wine Volcano the Bear Aaron Moore (drums/trumpet/bagpipes/harmonica/vocals/percussion) Nick Mott (saxophone/violin/vocals/percussion) Daniel Padden (piano/clarinet/vocals/percussion) Laurence Coleman (loops/tapes/samples). Music details: Hairy Queen, Arc Felt, Tallest Peoplein the World Volcano the Bear's latest album is Five Hundred Boy Piano (United Dairies UD500 CD) Minus Krummi Bjorgvins (vocals)/Frosti Logason (guitar)/Bjarni Sigurdarson (guitar)/Ivar Snorrason (bass)/Bjossi Stefansson (drums)/Curver (electronics) Music details: Electra Complex/Ambience of Hilarity/I Go Vertigo/Mispo/Peccadillo Electra Complex, Mispo and Peccadillo feature on the Manus album Jesus Christ Bobby (Smekkleysa/Bad Taste SM 88 CD) Chris -- How wonderful opera would be if there were no singers. From chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET Sun Feb 17 08:31:48 2002 From: chris at HAWKLORD.UKLINUX.NET (Chris Gibbs) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:31:48 +0000 Subject: Offish: CDR clicks at track points Message-ID: Hi ya, I had exactly that problem when I first started to copy commercial CD's. It is not a problem with commercial cd's it is buggy software. I changed the program that actually writes the cd and the problem went away. What I did won't help you though cause I guess you don't run linux/*NIX. I suggest you try cd writting software by adaptec (easycd) or there was an EXCELLENT package on the net for Windows many years ago called something like diskatonce or dao. From what I remember you find the app on the net then you need a key to unlock it... The key was easy to find... Don't ask me now. The way I found it was by searching for instructions on copying soney playstation cd's! But from what you say you need to change your writing software! Chris -- How wonderful opera would be if there were no singers. From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 17 09:28:21 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:28:21 -0600 Subject: HW: Love in Space Message-ID: Does the Love in Space Double Live CD come from the same gigs as the Video? Rich W From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 17 09:37:55 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:37:55 EST Subject: HW: Love in Space Message-ID: In a message dated 18/02/02 12:57:22 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > Does the Love in Space Double Live CD come from the same gigs as the Video? > > Rich W > Hi Rich, I have both the cd and video and as far as I can tell, yes, they are the same. Same track listing - The vid is absolutley fantastic! Michael B From coral at APORT.RU Sun Feb 17 09:43:58 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:43:58 +0300 Subject: HW: Love in Space Message-ID: > > Does the Love in Space Double Live CD come from the same gigs as the Video? They are from four dates as I remember. Alisa From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Feb 17 10:08:50 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:08:50 -0500 Subject: Offish: CDR clicks at track points In-Reply-To: <3C6FB0C4.FAC1BF04@hawklord.uklinux.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Chris Gibbs wrote: => I had exactly that problem when I first started to copy commercial => CD's. It is not a problem with commercial cd's it is buggy software. => I changed the program that actually writes the cd and the problem went => away. Just to alert people of a potentially related problem, but certain versions of Nero 5.5 have a bug when burning audio data. The bug causes the last frame of every audio track to be omitted. This can lead to clicks in the discs produced. This bug only affects audio burning, not data. I don't know if it is fixed in 5.5 yet, but I hear Ahead finally acknowledge the problem and are working on it. I think earlier versions of Nero are free of this problem. => I suggest you try cd writting software by adaptec (easycd) => or there was an EXCELLENT package on the net for Windows many years ago => called something like diskatonce or dao. From what I remember you find => the app on the net then you need a key to unlock it... The key was easy => to find... Don't ask me now. Instead of blagging keys and all that stupid guff, why not just use Feurio!? It is the most highly-rated Windows application for audio burning. (I hear lots of complaints about EZ-CD.) Also, a lot of people use EAC to burn CDs. As you'd be using it to extract audio under Windows, why not just stick with one program to do the lot? => But from what you say you need to change your writing software! Or, more likely, just cut the raw audio on correct CD sector boundaries. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 17 10:13:19 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:13:19 -0600 Subject: HW: Love in Space Message-ID: Thanks I was pretty sure that was the case: Picked up Captured Rotation, Love in Space Live Double and Interstellar Chaos by harvey B at yesterdays record fair for 23quid. Bargain or what :-) Working My Way through them, so far Captured Rotation is winning, and Interstellar Chaos is in 3rd Place. I also saw Weird 4 for 4.99, and the EMI Remasters Sampler for 5. Roll on the 9th March theres a huge fair over at Newcastle. Rich W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 8:37 AM Subject: Re: HW: Love in Space > In a message dated 18/02/02 12:57:22 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > > > Does the Love in Space Double Live CD come from the same gigs as the Video? > > > > Rich W > > > > Hi Rich, > > I have both the cd and video and as far as I can tell, yes, they are the > same. > > Same track listing - The vid is absolutley fantastic! > > Michael B From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Feb 17 10:16:59 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:16:59 -0500 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Mark Edmonds wrote: => First to contact me off list (2 for 1 trade or what have you) has it. (I'll => burn another set if the original guy gets back in touch). Anyone who wants this set should ask on the neo-quark Yahoo! group instead, where they should be able to hook up with a copy for a 1:1 trade or B&P. (Not that I want to leave your shelf overstuffed, Mark, but I just think 2 for 1 trades are uncool.) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 17 10:18:39 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:18:39 -0600 Subject: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia Message-ID: Orbital Question: I like Halcyon and On on the Hackers Sound Track, whats the original sourc release for this track, and is there much similar sounding Orbital Material. The few tracks I've heard by Orbital I have liked. Porcupine Tree Question: Which Porcupine Tree CD has Astralasia mixing one track on it (Voyage?), and is the rest of the CD as good as that mix. Which are the Spaciest Porcupine Tree Releases overall? Astralasia: Anyone heard the New Astralasia CD, if so what's the verdict. Also theres a rumour floating round Magick Eye are reissuing all the old CDs, is this true, and whats the timescale (Andy?) Rich W From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 17 10:19:23 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:19:23 EST Subject: HW: Love in Space Message-ID: In a message dated 18/02/02 1:41:55 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > I also saw Weird 4 for 4.99, and the EMI Remasters Sampler for 5. > > Roll on the 9th March theres a huge fair over at Newcastle If you come accross a good griffin WOTEOT cd that **is not** a misspress (LoL) I will gladly pay your fee if you would secure it for me. If the price is right maybe I'll even have a stripper sent around to you place as well (( LoL )) one that hops out of a cake ;-) and sings - Happy Birthay to you We just don't seem to get those groovy record fairs in adelaide that much - unless im simple missing them do'oh Michael From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 17 10:28:48 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:28:48 -0600 Subject: HW: Love in Space Message-ID: If I find a Griffin Copy of warrior I'm keeping it ;-) RichW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 9:19 AM Subject: Re: HW: Love in Space > In a message dated 18/02/02 1:41:55 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > > > I also saw Weird 4 for 4.99, and the EMI Remasters Sampler for 5. > > > > Roll on the 9th March theres a huge fair over at Newcastle > > If you come accross a good griffin WOTEOT cd that **is not** a misspress > (LoL) > I will gladly pay your fee if you would secure it for me. If the price is > right maybe I'll even have a stripper sent around to you place as well (( LoL > )) one that hops out of a cake ;-) and sings - Happy Birthay to you > > We just don't seem to get those groovy record fairs in adelaide that much - > unless im simple missing them do'oh > > Michael From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 17 10:30:14 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:30:14 EST Subject: HW: Love in Space Message-ID: In a message dated 18/02/02 1:57:53 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > If I find a Griffin Copy of warrior I'm keeping it ;-) Two strippers - and a chocolate cake ??? LoL From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 17 11:22:20 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:22:20 -0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe I am using the wrong terminology? I thought the idea was you kept one blank disc for everyone you burnt? No one has ever offered me a trade where I just supply the discs I get back! Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: 17 February 2002 15:17 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade > > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Mark Edmonds wrote: > > => First to contact me off list (2 for 1 trade or what have you) > has it. (I'll > => burn another set if the original guy gets back in touch). > > Anyone who wants this set should ask on the neo-quark Yahoo! group > instead, where they should be able to hook up with a copy for a 1:1 > trade or B&P. > > (Not that I want to leave your shelf overstuffed, Mark, but I just think > 2 for 1 trades are uncool.) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Feb 17 11:37:02 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:37:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Mark Edmonds wrote: => Maybe I am using the wrong terminology? I thought the idea was you kept one => blank disc for everyone you burnt? No one has ever offered me a trade where => I just supply the discs I get back! Like I said, you need to trade on neo-quark, then. :-) The only time I've heard of supplying extra blanks being common is in international trading, where arranging return postage is difficult for the sender, so the extra blanks are included in lieu of it. The trading policies of all taper-friendly bands I know of prohibit non-1:1 trades. Some traders do insist on 2+:1 B&Ps. I avoid those people. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 17 11:58:42 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:58:42 -0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now I'm getting confused. Surely the purpose of a trade is a two way exchange? If the person being traded with hasn't got any music for exchange (and I'd much rather trade for new shows) then they provide blanks instead? Otherwise, you end up burning all the discs, packaging them up and taking them down the post office for nothing in return. That isn't trading, that's a free CD duplication service. Also, for a couple of trades I have offered recently on this list (not Hawkestra incidentally), I have spent weeks of my time tidying and improving the sound quality of the original sources (and this has included buying expensive software). Surely it isn't reasonable to expect something simple like a blank disc in return for that? Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Paul Mather > Sent: 17 February 2002 16:37 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade > > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Mark Edmonds wrote: > > => Maybe I am using the wrong terminology? I thought the idea was > you kept one > => blank disc for everyone you burnt? No one has ever offered me > a trade where > => I just supply the discs I get back! > > Like I said, you need to trade on neo-quark, then. :-) The only time > I've heard of supplying extra blanks being common is in international > trading, where arranging return postage is difficult for the sender, so > the extra blanks are included in lieu of it. The trading policies of > all taper-friendly bands I know of prohibit non-1:1 trades. > > Some traders do insist on 2+:1 B&Ps. I avoid those people. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Feb 17 13:27:34 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:27:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Mark Edmonds wrote: => Now I'm getting confused. Surely the purpose of a trade is a two way => exchange? If the person being traded with hasn't got any music for exchange => (and I'd much rather trade for new shows) then they provide blanks instead? Yes, they provide the blanks and return postage, and you provide the music. What you "get out of it" is to spread some good music to someone who doesn't have it. If this isn't sufficient "payment" for you, you can always not do B&Ps. Nobody is twisting your arm. (Likewise, nobody is twisting anyone's arm who wants to do a 2:1 trade.) => Otherwise, you end up burning all the discs, packaging them up and taking => them down the post office for nothing in return. That isn't trading, that's => a free CD duplication service. Also, for a couple of trades I have offered => recently on this list (not Hawkestra incidentally), I have spent weeks of my => time tidying and improving the sound quality of the original sources (and => this has included buying expensive software). Surely it isn't reasonable to => expect something simple like a blank disc in return for that? It was not (and still isn't) my point to debate trading ethics here when I made my original reply. All I was doing was stating the fact that there are plenty of people and places who will do 1:1 trades (and that official band trading policies of those that allow trading forbid non-1:1 trades), and so 2+:1 trades are unnecessary in this day and age. Lots of people put in time and effort in cleaning up shows, and don't require some kind of compensation for their time. They do it because they want to (for themselves), and share the fruits of those labours freely with others. (Don't bogart that show, my friend...:) (I don't want to scare you, but it's not unknown for people to offer 0:1 trades [yes---completely free Hawkwind shows] on neo-quark from time to time.) I don't expect people to compensate me for the cost of my CD burner (which died last week---RIP!), or otherwise finance my trading (be it time or equipment) in any way. If I did, I'd probably go into the bootlegging business, and put things on an honest footing. :-) If B&Ps are too much bother, just don't do them. It's that easy. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 17 16:29:48 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:29:48 -0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I wasn't trying to get into a trading ethics debate either, merely just trying to understand the system better. I'll make a few comments and we'll close the subject if you want. Maybe I should have added that of all the trades I have done, I've only actually done two 2:1 B+P where the senders provided return postage. For all others, I have paid for it myself. Perhaps in that respect, requesting blanks doesn't seem too unreasonable. Also, you might be surprised to hear that if I could upload the files to a server and leave people to download it as required, then I would be perfectly happy. Unfortunately, with my internet connection reliability and speed, that would be completely impossible. So, all factors considered, I hope I don't seem like the CDR grabbing ogre I might have come over as! >(Don't bogart that show, my friend...:) New expression on me - what does it mean? Do Hawkwind have a policy on trading? Regards, Mark From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Feb 17 16:37:17 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 21:37:17 -0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry - forgot to add that during the on-going discussion, the Hawkestra set is now taken. Mark From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Feb 17 13:32:22 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:32:22 -0000 Subject: HW: Not Of This Earth Message-ID: I have got a complete track list and three CD-R's of the music on it but they don;t want me to spill the beans on all this just yet. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Guizar" To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: HW: Not Of This Earth > From: "Miikka Wagner" > > > I saw this item; Not Of This Earth-The Scifi Project. Anyone more > > information? Is it Black Widow release? > > Not sure what label, but I want it. According to the last supplement > I got from AndyG - the tracks had to be inspired by, or relate to the > artists favorite Sci-Fi TV program or film. There's 39 bands, ones > he lists are Hawkwind, Alan Davey, ST37, Dr Hasbeen, Quarkspace, > and Krel. It's either 3CD's or 4LP's. > > Jerry From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Feb 17 13:16:06 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:16:06 -0000 Subject: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia Message-ID: Orbital 'Halcyon' is by far and away the best thing they ever did - just track down the CD single with the edit and the full version, forget the albums and get into Shpongle instead - far better.. The Astralasia mix of 'Voyage 34' is on the 'Voyage 34' CD album if I remember rightly, with all three versions (from the two singles) fo thetrack on it and it's fab. As to spaciest Tree CD, well if you don;t mind vocals, then surely must be 'Sky Moves Sideways' altho' there are two instrumental CD's by them if you want something with more power. As to latest Astralasia, believe it or not I've not heard it yet as I am about three light years behind with reviewing (well, not quite, but one hell of a backlog) due to all the work now underway to get the CDS website up and running. As to reissue of old Astralasia stuff, not heard anything but I'll ask them tomorrow and let you know. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warren" To: Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Sun Feb 17 18:02:33 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 17:02:33 -0600 Subject: HW: Not Of This Earth Message-ID: I'm glad to know that, lol. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Garibaldi" > I have got a complete track list and three CD-R's of the music on it but > they don;t want me to spill the beans on all this just yet. > Andy G. From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Feb 17 18:54:31 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 23:54:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Not Of This Earth Message-ID: OK - you are the first to spot a totally pointless e.mail - I can but apologise. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Witt" To: Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: Re: HW: Not Of This Earth > I'm glad to know that, lol. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Garibaldi" > > > I have got a complete track list and three CD-R's of the music on it but > > they don;t want me to spill the beans on all this just yet. > > Andy G. From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Feb 17 20:02:05 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:02:05 -0500 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade Message-ID: originally:`don't bogart that joint,my friend...' from Humphrey Bogart's habit of talking with a cigarette in his mouth: ie.don't keep it to yourself,pass it around. great song by Little Feat by that name... quite often used on college campuses back in my day(71-72) tim > > >(Don't bogart that show, my friend...:) > > New expression on me - what does it mean? > > Do Hawkwind have a policy on trading? > > Regards, > > Mark From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Sun Feb 17 20:08:39 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:08:39 -0500 Subject: OFF:Elric Message-ID: Sort of off,sorta on in a round about way. At a book clearance center in Orlando today and found a copy of Michael Moorcock's ~Elric:Sailor On the Seas of Fate' graphic novel. only $3.50,what a steal!! tim From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 18 10:16:16 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:16:16 GMT Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Mark Edmonds's message of Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:58:42 -0000 Message-ID: Mark Edmonds writes: > Now I'm getting confused. Surely the purpose of a trade is a two way > exchange? If the person being traded with hasn't got any music for > exchange (and I'd much rather trade for new shows) then they provide > blanks instead? Otherwise, you end up burning all the discs, packaging > them up and taking them down the post office for nothing in return. > That isn't trading, that's a free CD duplication service. Also, for a > couple of trades I have offered recently on this list (not Hawkestra > incidentally), I have spent weeks of my time tidying and improving the > sound quality of the original sources (and this has included buying > expensive software). Surely it isn't reasonable to expect something > simple like a blank disc in return for that? Don't go here. It's a *religious* argument for some of the folks on neo-quark and asking for two blanks in trade is regarded as some form of usury. For the enlightened, the mere act of spreading the neo-quark creed is reward in itself. For us unenlightened capitalist running dogs, we must satisfy ourselves with the lowly pleasures of The Extra Blank. FoFP From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Feb 18 14:41:55 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:41:55 -0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade Message-ID: Well, as far as we non-tape-trading mortals go, I'd love a copy of the whole Hawkestra set. I haven't got anything to trade, but I'm quite prepared to send a big stack of blank CDs to anyone who would do me the Brixton show. I was there, but my feeble recording came out as three C90s of static with a vague "Silver Machine" in the background at the end of the third tape. (Admittedly it doesn't help that I fell asleep halfway through.) And when it comes to it, blank CDs cost EIGHTEEN PENCE each. I can't believe we're arguing over 18p... (I understand that that's about 32 Euros...) :-) Cheers, Rich. (Who's prepared (if he can get a copy) to burn it for anyone - sod the postage. Buy me a beer next time.) > Mark Edmonds writes: > > > Now I'm getting confused. Surely the purpose of a trade is a two way > > exchange? If the person being traded with hasn't got any music for > > exchange (and I'd much rather trade for new shows) then they provide > > blanks instead? Otherwise, you end up burning all the discs, packaging > > them up and taking them down the post office for nothing in return. > > That isn't trading, that's a free CD duplication service. Also, for a > > couple of trades I have offered recently on this list (not Hawkestra > > incidentally), I have spent weeks of my time tidying and improving the > > sound quality of the original sources (and this has included buying > > expensive software). Surely it isn't reasonable to expect something > > simple like a blank disc in return for that? > > Don't go here. It's a *religious* argument for some of the folks on > neo-quark and asking for two blanks in trade is regarded as some form of > usury. For the enlightened, the mere act of spreading the neo-quark > creed is reward in itself. For us unenlightened capitalist running dogs, > we must satisfy ourselves with the lowly pleasures of The Extra Blank. > > FoFP > From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 18 14:52:24 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:52:24 -0000 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual - bass guitar - Yikes! In-Reply-To: <000801c1b725$e8439260$62a7e73f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: Just listening to Yule Ritual for the first time. Seems like a pretty good gig so far (excellent Space is Deep) but what is that new instrument I am hearing? Is it some prototype infra-sonic bass guitar? I certainly didn't know my headphones could deal with negative Hz! Seriously though, for the most part I have difficulty telling the bass guitar from a synth. Hey, High Rise has just started - fantastic! (A friend of mine once commented High Rise proves there is a God). Anyway, rambling aside, I am just wondering if this nuclear bass guitar sound is accurate or a studio enhancement? How do audience tapes sound in comparison? (I expect the molecular structure of most conventional magnetic mediums would be shattered by this noise!). Mark From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 18 14:58:32 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:58:32 -0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: <032801c1b8b4$527814f0$c33e23d9@bernard> Message-ID: Actually, I always use jewel cased TDKs were possible which are a bit more than that. Anyway, if you want a set, I'll do it no problem - just let me know. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > Sent: 18 February 2002 19:42 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade > > > Well, as far as we non-tape-trading mortals go, I'd love a copy > of the whole > Hawkestra set. I haven't got anything to trade, but I'm quite prepared to > send a big stack of blank CDs to anyone who would do me the > Brixton show. I > was there, but my feeble recording came out as three C90s of static with a > vague "Silver Machine" in the background at the end of the third tape. > (Admittedly it doesn't help that I fell asleep halfway through.) > > And when it comes to it, blank CDs cost EIGHTEEN PENCE each. I can't > believe we're arguing over 18p... > > (I understand that that's about 32 Euros...) :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > (Who's prepared (if he can get a copy) to burn it for anyone - sod the > postage. Buy me a beer next time.) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Feb 18 16:38:50 2002 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:38:50 -0500 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: <200202181516.PAA12374@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, M Holmes wrote: => Don't go here. It's a *religious* argument for some of the folks on => neo-quark and asking for two blanks in trade is regarded as some form of => usury. For the enlightened, the mere act of spreading the neo-quark => creed is reward in itself. For us unenlightened capitalist running dogs, => we must satisfy ourselves with the lowly pleasures of The Extra Blank. Fortunately, there's room for more than one religion and credo in the world, so we can all be happy (even Mike:). ;-) (I didn't mean to kick off a firestorm with this. I was just trying to point out that if you wanted to get the Hawkestra set for 5 blanks instead of 10, then neo-quark was a better place to do it. Besides, you capitalists are all for a bit of price competition, aren't you?;) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Feb 18 16:55:39 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:55:39 -0600 Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show Message-ID: http://www.salon.com/ent/wire/2002/02/17/ozzy/index.html?x Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show - - - - - - - - - - - - Associated Press Feb. 17, 2002 | First, there was "Survivor." Then came "Fear Factor." Now, reality television watchers can follow the daily activities of rock musician Ozzy Osbourne and his family on MTV in "The Osbournes." "What you see on the show is absolutely us,'' Osbourne says in the Feb. 23 issue of TV Guide. "None of it's been doctored or manufactured. It's real. It's the Ozzy Osbourne "Real World." In one episode, his 17-year-old daughter has a birthday party and he spends the evening wagging his finger at her friends, yelling "Don't smoke!" and trying to be heard over thumping techno music. "What is this?" Osbourne finally asks. "It's music to get a brain seizure by." The show begins March 5. From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Tue Feb 19 00:38:27 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (Mark Von Bargen) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 05:38:27 -0000 Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show Message-ID: Ok then - whats next? Richie Blackmore's Friends Reunited - Richie brings together old pals to recount tales f the good old days Lars Musical Internet History - Mr Ulrich recalls the rise of Napster and encouragement offered by him and his pals Blind Date with David Coverdale - full details are censored There you go; anybody else wat to play fantasy Metal Muppets TV? > "What you see on the show is absolutely us,'' Osbourne > says in the Feb. 23 issue of TV Guide. "None of it's been > doctored or manufactured. It's real. It's the Ozzy > Osbourne "Real World." So that means that we will see Mr Osbourne obeying Sharon's every word. I wonder who the dinner guests will be this week? Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kusic" To: Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:55 PM Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show > http://www.salon.com/ent/wire/2002/02/17/ozzy/index.html?x > > > Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > Associated Press > > > Feb. 17, 2002 | > > First, there was "Survivor." Then came "Fear Factor." > > Now, reality television watchers can follow the daily > activities of rock musician Ozzy Osbourne and his family > on MTV in "The Osbournes." > > "What you see on the show is absolutely us,'' Osbourne > says in the Feb. 23 issue of TV Guide. "None of it's been > doctored or manufactured. It's real. It's the Ozzy > Osbourne "Real World." > > In one episode, his 17-year-old daughter has a birthday > party and he spends the evening wagging his finger at > her friends, yelling "Don't smoke!" and trying to be heard > over thumping techno music. > > "What is this?" Osbourne finally asks. "It's music to get a > brain seizure by." > > The show begins March 5. > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 19 01:37:28 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:37:28 EST Subject: festival question Message-ID: Was just wondering how the applications are coming along? I've started a special savings account in anticipation of flying over again. Really looking forward to some news :-) Michael B From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Tue Feb 19 01:48:31 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:48:31 -0600 Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show Message-ID: Ozzy will do anything for a buck nowadays. He has lost all credibility. Also he is feeble and probably an ass. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:38 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 19 02:18:54 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:18:54 -0500 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual - bass guitar - Yikes! Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:52:24 -0000, Mark Edmonds wrote: >Just listening to Yule Ritual for the first time. Seems like a pretty good >gig so far Agreed! > ... but what is that new instrument I am hearing? Is it some prototype >infra-sonic bass guitar? I certainly didn't know my headphones could >deal with negative Hz! I am just wondering if this nuclear bass guitar >sound is accurate or a studio enhancement? How do audience tapes sound in >comparison? (I expect the molecular structure of most conventional magnetic >mediums would be shattered by this noise!). I haven't heard audience tapes from the show, so I can't be 100% certain. To me, it sounds like a product of the mastering (computer "bass-enhance" plug-ins?), and it bugs me for its' prominent un-realisticness (I've mentioned its irksomeness in a couple messages to the list). It *does* sound more like a synth than a real bass guitar to me (or IS Ali using a bass synth?). But if you look back over the history of Hawkwind's albums, there are a lot of instrument recordings that sound prominently unrealistic (at least for their time), and, today, dated, but *still* form part of the development of the overall Hawkwind/blanga sound we love. So I've come to decide that I can live with it. Even if I wouldn't be caught DEAD letting any of my recordings sounds like that (and would still LOVE to hear any other mastering job on the Yule Ritual tapes). :^) -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 19 02:44:07 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:44:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sweet drummer dies Message-ID: That's too bad. Mick Tucker was a talented guy - a powerful drummer who could simultaneously vocalise in the band's four-part harmonies (he wrote many of their lyrics once they started writing their own songs). He was also responsible for some cool psychedelic production on songs like "I wanna be committed" and "Into the night" - vocoders and backwards gongs and the like. Talk about a band that had bad luck after their bout with fame (lead singer Brian Connoly died a few years ago of some sort of post- massive-stroke(s) trauma) ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:51:27 +0800, William Duffy wrote: >Here's some sad news for anyone out there who are fans of The Sweet. The >following info comes via a Sweet web site. > >William > > > >I have the sad news to bring that today, Thursday February 14th 2002, Mick >Tucker, drummer with the 70's glam rock >supergroup - Sweet, passed away in hospital at 11.35am this morning... From MarkF at I2.CO.UK Tue Feb 19 03:42:31 2002 From: MarkF at I2.CO.UK (Mark Fleet) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:42:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade Message-ID: Hiya First post for me - I am new to the list and whilst being devoted to the first 15 years of the band, I completely lost touch from after Church of Hawkwind. So two questions (and I feel an avalanche of replies coming for the second one): 1 What is on the Hawkestra set 2 I need a couple of post Church albums to listen too, to catch up - recommendations? Cheers, Mark (Fleet) From als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK Tue Feb 19 05:24:36 2002 From: als at POSTMASTER.CO.UK (Alastair Sumner) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 05:24:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia Message-ID: I've never heard Halcyon but their fourth album 'In Sides' is one of the best albums I have ever heard from any band. It is much more 'electronic' sounding than other stuff I have heard by Orbital. I bought 'The Middle of Nowhere' on the strength of 'In Sides' but I didn't really like it at all. I like every song on 'In Sides' and it seems like such a well put together album to me. A real classic. Alastair. On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:18:39 -0600, Rich Warren wrote: >Orbital Question: > >I like Halcyon and On on the Hackers Sound Track, whats the original sourc release for this track, and is there much similar sounding Orbital Material. The few tracks I've heard by Orbital I have liked. > >Porcupine Tree Question: > >Which Porcupine Tree CD has Astralasia mixing one track on it (Voyage?), and is the rest of the CD as good as that mix. Which are the Spaciest Porcupine Tree Releases overall? > >Astralasia: > >Anyone heard the New Astralasia CD, if so what's the verdict. Also theres a rumour floating round Magick Eye are reissuing all the old CDs, is this true, and whats the timescale (Andy?) > > >Rich W From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 19 06:13:09 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:13:09 +0000 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade Message-ID: Try Distant Horizons, Palace Springs, Yule Ritual and This is Hawkwind do not Panic >From: Mark Fleet >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade >Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:42:31 -0000 > >Hiya > >First post for me - I am new to the list and whilst being devoted to the >first 15 years of the band, I completely lost touch from after Church of >Hawkwind. > >So two questions (and I feel an avalanche of replies coming for the second >one): > >1 What is on the Hawkestra set >2 I need a couple of post Church albums to listen too, to catch up - >recommendations? > >Cheers, Mark (Fleet) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 19 06:44:51 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:44:51 GMT Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:38:50 -0500 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, M Holmes wrote: > > => Don't go here. It's a *religious* argument for some of the folks on > => neo-quark and asking for two blanks in trade is regarded as some form of > => usury. For the enlightened, the mere act of spreading the neo-quark > => creed is reward in itself. For us unenlightened capitalist running dogs, > => we must satisfy ourselves with the lowly pleasures of The Extra Blank. > > Fortunately, there's room for more than one religion and credo in the > world, so we can all be happy (even Mike:). ;-) > > (I didn't mean to kick off a firestorm with this. I was just trying to > point out that if you wanted to get the Hawkestra set for 5 blanks > instead of 10, then neo-quark was a better place to do it. Besides, > you capitalists are all for a bit of price competition, aren't you?;) Indeed. I keep telling friends that this is why Libertaria will be full of socialists. Of course the Randians would have something to say about the kind of altruism that makes someone slave over a hot CD-writer all day, but we don't want to go there either ;-) > Paul. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 19 06:50:59 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:50:59 GMT Subject: OFF: Sweet drummer dies In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > That's too bad. Mick Tucker was a talented guy - a powerful drummer who > could simultaneously vocalise in the band's four-part harmonies (he wrote > many of their lyrics once they started writing their own songs). He was > also responsible for some cool psychedelic production on songs like "I > wanna be committed" and "Into the night" - vocoders and backwards gongs and > the like. Talk about a band that had bad luck after their bout with fame > (lead singer Brian Connoly died a few years ago of some sort of post- > massive-stroke(s) trauma) ... Liver failure got him in the end didn't it? I saw a TV reprise of Glam Rock with him interviewed, and he looked at death's door. He died during produ7ction of the show. I was a Sweet fan as a nipper though. What wopuld be the best albums to get for: A) The hits from Alexander Graham Bell through Fox on the Run and B) The stuff they wrote. FoFP P.S: I also have a komplete Chicory Tip kollection ;-) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 19 07:04:39 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:04:39 EST Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show Message-ID: In a message dated 19/02/02 5:19:29 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, Warren_Oates at MSN.COM writes: > Ozzy will do anything for a buck nowadays. He has lost all credibility. > Also he is feeble and probably an ass. > Interviews I have seen him in - would back the above statement. However - I still think alot of his music is still very cool - and I am more into the music than the man. From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Tue Feb 19 07:14:52 2002 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:14:52 -0000 Subject: OFF: Sweet drummer dies In-Reply-To: <200202191150.LAA11365@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Their Live + studio album "Strung Up" is one of THE great live albums. I don't believe this is available on CD (in fact it's tough to find on vinyl). Alasdair On 19 Feb 2002 at 11:50, M Holmes wrote: > Doug Pearson writes: > > > That's too bad. Mick Tucker was a talented guy - a powerful drummer > > who could simultaneously vocalise in the band's four-part harmonies > > (he wrote many of their lyrics once they started writing their own > > songs). He was also responsible for some cool psychedelic > > production on songs like "I wanna be committed" and "Into the night" > > - vocoders and backwards gongs and the like. Talk about a band that > > had bad luck after their bout with fame (lead singer Brian Connoly > > died a few years ago of some sort of post- massive-stroke(s) trauma) > > ... > > Liver failure got him in the end didn't it? I saw a TV reprise of Glam > Rock with him interviewed, and he looked at death's door. He died > during produ7ction of the show. > > I was a Sweet fan as a nipper though. What wopuld be the best albums > to get for: > > A) The hits from Alexander Graham Bell through Fox on the Run and > > B) The stuff they wrote. > > FoFP > > P.S: I also have a komplete Chicory Tip kollection ;-) > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 19 06:18:56 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:18:56 EDT Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show In-Reply-To: <00b701c1b911$71b73820$80a4e73f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: On 19 Feb 2002, at 0:48, Dan Witt wrote: > Ozzy will do anything for a buck nowadays. He has lost all > credibility. Also he is feeble and probably an ass. > He's definitely an ass, but he's a riot to listen to. I'll tune in for a couple of episodes. Can't be any worse than the rest of the garbage on TV nowadays... theo From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Feb 19 07:35:33 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:35:33 -0000 Subject: OFF: (Very OFF!) Chicory Tip. Message-ID: > > P.S: I also have a komplete Chicory Tip kollection ;-) > How to annoy a Welshman - number eighty-one. Sing, very loudly, "Land of my Fathers" to the tune of "Son of my Father", while they're getting beaten at rugby. :-) Cheers, R. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 19 07:39:21 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:39:21 GMT Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson's message of Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:18:56 EDT Message-ID: Ted Jackson writes: > On 19 Feb 2002, at 0:48, Dan Witt wrote: > > > Ozzy will do anything for a buck nowadays. He has lost all > > credibility. Also he is feeble and probably an ass. > > > He's definitely an ass, but he's a riot to listen to. He was priceless on some interview I saw him on around a year ago. I dunno what's expected anyway. He's just a Brummie that lucked out into the right band at the right time, made a fortune and spent it all drinking. He's not the leader of some philosophical movement, he's in the entertainment business. If the latest for of entertainment is to watch him row with teenage daughters then he's as entitled to have at it than any. Quite what "credibility" he might lose by this escapes me. FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 19 06:51:31 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:51:31 EDT Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show In-Reply-To: <200202191239.MAA00413@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 19 Feb 2002, at 12:39, M Holmes wrote: > Ted Jackson writes: > > > On 19 Feb 2002, at 0:48, Dan Witt wrote: > > > > > Ozzy will do anything for a buck nowadays. He has lost all > > > credibility. Also he is feeble and probably an ass. > > > > > He's definitely an ass, but he's a riot to listen to. > > He was priceless on some interview I saw him on around a year ago. > He comes on Howard stern's show on a regular basis. He's funny as hell. Often has his kids come on the show with him. Don't know how good the show is, 'cause Ozzy's family sounds pretty 'normal' to me... > I dunno what's expected anyway. He's just a Brummie that lucked out > into the right band at the right time, made a fortune and spent it all > drinking. Not close to having spent it all. Ozzy's loaded! Remember, he 'owns' Ozzfest, and all it's marketing. He's one of the richest rock stars on the planet, thanks to his shrewd manager/wife Sharon... He's not the leader of some philosophical movement, he's in > the entertainment business. If the latest for of entertainment is to > watch him row with teenage daughters then he's as entitled to have at > it than any. Quite what "credibility" he might lose by this escapes > me. If the likes of Mariah Carey and Britney Spears can make movies, what harm will an Ozzy TV show do? theo From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 19 08:07:24 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:07:24 EST Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade Message-ID: In a message dated 19/02/02 7:32:03 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, MarkF at I2.CO.UK writes: > 1 What is on the Hawkestra set > 2 I need a couple of post Church albums to listen too, to catch up - > recommendations? > all of them :-) The Electric Tepee Alien 4 & Love in space Chronicle of the Black sword Live Chronicles and any others that I have missed in my haste (it's 11:43pm and I wanna go to bed) ;-) From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 19 08:25:24 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:25:24 EST Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade Message-ID: In a message dated 19/02/02 10:15:15 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Of course the Randians would have something to say about the kind of > altruism that makes someone slave over a hot CD-writer all day, but we > don't want to go there either ;-) > Randians? Are you refering to randy Canadians? is that what a Randian is? from me From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 19 10:26:58 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 23:26:58 +0800 Subject: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia Message-ID: Hi Is the Orbital DVD worth getting? Being a Doctor Who fan I'm curious about the video version of their version of the theme. William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alastair Sumner" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Orbital/Porcupine Tree/Astralasia > I've never heard Halcyon but their fourth album 'In Sides' is one of the > best albums I have ever heard from any band. It is much more 'electronic' > sounding than other stuff I have heard by Orbital. I bought 'The Middle of > Nowhere' on the strength of 'In Sides' but I didn't really like it at all. > I like every song on 'In Sides' and it seems like such a well put together > album to me. A real classic. > > Alastair. > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:18:39 -0600, Rich Warren > wrote: > > >Orbital Question: > > > >I like Halcyon and On on the Hackers Sound Track, whats the original sourc > release for this track, and is there much similar sounding Orbital > Material. The few tracks I've heard by Orbital I have liked. > > > >Porcupine Tree Question: > > > >Which Porcupine Tree CD has Astralasia mixing one track on it (Voyage?), > and is the rest of the CD as good as that mix. Which are the Spaciest > Porcupine Tree Releases overall? > > > >Astralasia: > > > >Anyone heard the New Astralasia CD, if so what's the verdict. Also theres > a rumour floating round Magick Eye are reissuing all the old CDs, is this > true, and whats the timescale (Andy?) > > > > > >Rich W > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 19 10:33:30 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 23:33:30 +0800 Subject: OFF: Sweet drummer dies Message-ID: > I was a Sweet fan as a nipper though. What wopuld be the best albums to > get for: > > A) The hits from Alexander Graham Bell through Fox on the Run and > There's a Double CD of most of the singles they did, along with B-sides. The title is something like A's & B's? > B) The stuff they wrote. > Their best albums are Sweet Fanny Adams & Give Us A Wink, but they're not in the same vein as the singles you mention, being very heavy albums. I also quite like the last one they did with Brian Connolly, Level Headed, as it had an interesting mixture of styles, including classical & electronic music. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Feb 19 10:35:00 2002 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 23:35:00 +0800 Subject: OFF: Sweet drummer dies Message-ID: > Their Live + studio album "Strung Up" is one of THE great live albums. I don't > believe this is available on CD (in fact it's tough to find on vinyl). > It's recently been released as a remastered CD. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 19 08:23:26 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:23:26 EST Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade Message-ID: In a message dated 19/02/02 9:44:25 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > Try Distant Horizons, Palace Springs, Yule Ritual and This is Hawkwind do > not Panic > dang - I forgot Palace springs in my previous list of post "church of..." releases - yes - thats a winner!! very cool - all those one up there a groovy too From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Tue Feb 19 10:44:00 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?=) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:44:00 +0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgT0ZGOiAgKFZlcnkgT0ZGISkgQ2hpY29yeSBUaXAu?= Message-ID: That is sacrilage. So of My Father was one of my earliest memories of pop music on TV (as a child of a single figure age). I don't think that it should be associated with a thuggish game such as rugby union. Oh the memories are flooding back this week, Chicory Tip and the Sweet. Maybe next week it'll be the late 70's and punk - just after I discovered Hawkwind. Mark -- Mark Von Bargen mark.von-bargen at genieone.co.uk - email ---- Richard Lockwood wrote: ---------------- > > P.S: I also have a komplete Chicory Tip kollection ;-) > How to annoy a Welshman - number eighty-one. Sing, very loudly, "Land of my Fathers" to the tune of "Son of my Father", while they're getting beaten at rugby. :-) Cheers, R. ---------------- __________________________________________________ Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Feb 19 10:50:47 2002 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:50:47 -0600 Subject: OFF: Randians (was Re: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade) In-Reply-To: <191.281402b.29a3ac44@aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Michael W Blackman wrote: :Subject: Re: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade : :In a message dated 19/02/02 10:15:15 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, :fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: : : :> Of course the Randians would have something to say about the kind of :> altruism that makes someone slave over a hot CD-writer all day, but we :> don't want to go there either ;-) :> : :Randians? Are you refering to randy Canadians? is that what a Randian is? : :from me He's referring to followers of Ayn Rand, also commonly called Objectivists. Pull up Ayn Rand in your favorite search engine on the web for more data ;-) Thanks, Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at uchicago.edu Manager of Web Systems Architecture University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 19 11:16:37 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:16:37 GMT Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgT0ZGOiAgKFZlcnkgT0ZGISkgQ2hpY29yeSBUaXAu?= In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?='s message of Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:44:00 +0000 Message-ID: =?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?= writes: > That is sacrilage. So of My Father was one of my earliest memories of > pop music on TV (as a child of a single figure age). I don't think > that it should be associated with a thuggish game such as rugby union. > Oh the memories are flooding back this week, Ch> icory Tip and the > Sweet. Well I could knock together a CDR of: Son of My Father What's Your Name The Future Is Past Good Grief Christina Cigarettes, Women and Wine Presumably I have the B-sides of all these singles but I can't for the life of me remember any one of them. I'm sure that somewhere I also have the singles Blockbuster, Hellraiser and Ballroom Blitz. FoFP Now if Hawkwind did Hellraiser with mucho blanga.... From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 19 12:34:23 2002 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Chris Allen) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:34:23 -0000 Subject: OFF: Sweet drummer dies Message-ID: Who is it that played with The Sweet who's now in a band called High On Fire? >Talk about a band that had bad luck after their bout with fame > (lead singer Brian Connoly died a few years ago of some sort of post- > massive-stroke(s) trauma) ... From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 19 12:53:05 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:53:05 -0500 Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade In-Reply-To: <8c.1428356b.29a3a80c@aol.com>; from Michaelangelo68@AOL.COM on Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 08:07:24AM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 08:07:24AM -0500, Michael W Blackman wrote: > In a message dated 19/02/02 7:32:03 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > MarkF at I2.CO.UK writes: > and any others that I have missed in my haste (it's 11:43pm and I wanna go to > bed) ;-) It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / One ring to rule the mall. - Movie review headline, eye Magazine From js3619 at ACMENET.NET Tue Feb 19 13:24:40 2002 From: js3619 at ACMENET.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:24:40 -0500 Subject: BRAIN/NOC: Helen Wheels and the Skeleton Crew Message-ID: If you haven't checked out your friendly neighborhood Cellsum.com, do so now and order Helen Wheels and the Skeleton Crew CD. Heck, order some for your friends too! track listing: 1. ...And It's a Drag 2. Useless 3. If You Have Ghosts (r.erikson tune) 4. the one who dares 5. For a Fan (I saw her and the crew play this track live. it rocked then and now!) 6. Times Square Ain't There 7. A Lie takes a lie 8. Hole Land 9. $5.00 Fantasy 10. Graveyard Down the Road (good atmospheric piece if i remember correctly from live gig. I havent heard it yet, only up to track 5) 11. Relentless 12. Mutant Reaction Bolts of Ungodly Vision From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Feb 19 13:55:56 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:55:56 EST Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show Message-ID: In a message dated 2/19/02 1:49:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, Warren_Oates at MSN.COM writes: << Ozzy will do anything for a buck nowadays. He has lost all credibility. Also he is feeble and probably an ass. >> What credibility???Umm geez rock-star credibility? Not dark enough for ya? No Geezer? WOT???...It's called entertainment. You no like...You no buy! regards, bill stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Feb 19 13:58:42 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:58:42 EST Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show Message-ID: In a message dated 2/19/02 7:39:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << He's not the leader of some philosophical movement, he's in the entertainment business. If the latest for of entertainment is to watch him row with teenage daughters then he's as entitled to have at it than any. Quite what "credibility" he might lose by this escapes me. >> Sorry, disregard my post...as always, Holmsey got it right! How's the skiing Mike? Best regards, Bill Stewart From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Tue Feb 19 15:34:16 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:34:16 -0600 Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show Message-ID: He lost it before this show, not because of this show. I've paid attention to some of his projects and comments through the late 80s and 90s, and lost all respect for him. See I like what he once did, if you never did fine. Also I think some musicians have real credibility, it's not all just "entertainment". I promise, I won't condemn anybody here that watches his show, have fun. It was just my 2 cents. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:55 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show > What credibility???Umm geez rock-star credibility? Not dark enough for ya? No > Geezer? WOT???...It's called entertainment. You no like...You no buy! From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 19 15:45:33 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:45:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sweet drummer dies Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:34:23 -0000, Chris Allen wrote: >Who is it that played with The Sweet who's now in a band called High On >Fire? Um ... High On Fire is ex-SLEEP (the band that opened for Nikwind on their '94 US tour), not ex-Sweet ... -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 19 15:44:15 2002 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:44:15 -0000 Subject: HW: Yule Ritual - bass guitar - Yikes! In-Reply-To: <200202190718.CAA12003@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: The sleeve photos tend to suggest it was a conventional 4 string bass. I'm beginning to think it is a production excess - like you say, some bass-enhance plug-in (I think DBX make outboard gear to do exactly this). Whatever, call me a stick-in-the-mud but I much prefer a cleaner bass where you can hear the strings. On your last point, I agree entirely - it is all part of the journey even if it means moments of great frustration. When the Hawkwind highs come along though, well it is like nothing else! Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Doug Pearson > Sent: 19 February 2002 07:19 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Yule Ritual - bass guitar - Yikes! > > I haven't heard audience tapes from the show, so I can't be 100% certain. > To me, it sounds like a product of the mastering (computer "bass-enhance" > plug-ins?), and it bugs me for its' prominent un-realisticness (I've > mentioned its irksomeness in a couple messages to the list). It *does* > sound more like a synth than a real bass guitar to me (or IS Ali using a > bass synth?). But if you look back over the history of Hawkwind's albums, > there are a lot of instrument recordings that sound prominently > unrealistic > (at least for their time), and, today, dated, but *still* form part of the > development of the overall Hawkwind/blanga sound we love. So I've come to > decide that I can live with it. Even if I wouldn't be caught DEAD letting > any of my recordings sounds like that (and would still LOVE to hear any > other mastering job on the Yule Ritual tapes). :^) > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 19 15:55:41 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:55:41 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:48:31 -0600, Dan Witt wrote: >Ozzy will do anything for a buck nowadays. He has lost all credibility. >Also he is feeble ... I heard a *really* funny story about an alleged 90's Ozzy studio visit (which I won't repeat on-list ... send me a private email) which would confirm that statement 100%. > and probably an ass. ... actually, he comes off (to me) as a pretty funny, self-effacing guy. Much more like, say, Ian Gillan, than Richie Blackmore. As for current artistic "credibility", I don't give a rat's ass. He sure made some great albums 25-30 years ago, though ... -Doug (who wasn't that impressed with System of a Down's version of "Snowblind" when heard on the radio during a tape/CD-less drive last night) jasret at mindspring.com From jasret at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Feb 19 16:04:22 2002 From: jasret at MINDSPRING.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:04:22 -0500 Subject: Offish: CDR clicks at track points Message-ID: On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 15:06:34 -0500, Paul Mather wrote: >On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Mark Edmonds wrote: > >=> I am using an app called Sonar to process WAVs and splitting these up >=> prior to burning onto CD. The problem I am getting is that there is a >=> slight click at each track point on the completed CD. > >You are not splitting the WAVs on CD sector boundaries (2352 bytes/588 >stereo samples)... (... which is the equivalent of 75 sectors, or frames, per second). FWIW, I use Goldenhawk's (cool name, huh? ;^)) CDRWIN, which works much better than the Adaptec software for me: http://www.goldenhawk.com/ ... one nice thing about the software is that you don't have to split a files in order to get multiple cuepoints for dividing it into several tracks on the burned CD; you can specify the cuepoints (including pregaps and track lead-ins) in a text-file playlist. ... and Syntrillium's Cool Edit 2000 for editing/processing/splitting/merging/etc.: http://www.syntrillium.com/ YMMV etc. -Doug jasret at mindspring.com From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Tue Feb 19 18:13:50 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 23:13:50 -0000 Subject: OFF: (Very OFF!) Chicory Tip. Message-ID: Fair point - but it really irritates Welsh people. :-) Cheers, R. > That is sacrilage. So of My Father was one of my earliest memories of pop music on TV (as a child of a single figure age). I don't think that it should be associated with a thuggish game such as rugby union. Oh the memories are flooding back this week, Chicory Tip and the Sweet. > Maybe next week it'll be the late 70's and punk - just after I discovered Hawkwind. > > Mark > > > > > P.S: I also have a komplete Chicory Tip kollection ;-) > > > > How to annoy a Welshman - number eighty-one. > > Sing, very loudly, "Land of my Fathers" to the tune of "Son of my Father", > while they're getting beaten at rugby. > > :-) > > Cheers, > > R. > ---------------- > > > > __________________________________________________ > Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. > Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 00:16:48 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:16:48 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/16 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck 2/16 (4-8pm PST) 1.Defender-- 30-minute rave-jam (Live at the Double Door, Chicago 1/22/01) 2.Farflung-- "Ant Lion" (When Science Fails; Falcata-Galia...thanks to Tommy!) 3.Damo Suzuki's Network-- "Love Behind Mirror " (Odyssey; Damo's Network...thanks again, Tommy!) 4.Chrome-- "Return to Zanzibar" (The Visitation; Dossier) 5.Igra Staklenih Perli-- "Putovanje u Plavo" (ST'd...thanks, Keith!) 6.Pink Floyd-- "Careful w/that Axe, Eugene" (Umma Gumma; EMI/Harvest) 7.Steve Hillage-- "Searching for the Spark" (Live Herald; Virgin) 8.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Snotty the Piercing Tiger" (forth-coming Black Widow comp) 9.Kingston Wall-- "Nepal/And I Hear You Call" (I; Zen Garden Oy) 10.Liquid Sound Company-- "Saddhana Siddhi" (Exploring the Psychedelic; Brainticket) 11.Psychic TV-- "Ecstasy"?? (Live @ Thee Pyramid; Temple) 12.Nik Turner-- "Chances Lost" (Prophets of Time; Cleopatra) 13.Acid Mothers Temple-- "Universe of Romance" (New Geocentric World; Squealer) 14.The Knockouts-- "Release the Pigs" (The New Rock 'n' Roll comp; 3D) 15.The Ventures-- "Penetration" (Ventures in Space; Pickwick) 16.Hawkwind-- "Ejection" (Undisclosed Files-Addendum; Griffin) 17.Spirits Burning-- "Gods at the Top of the World" (Reflections in a Radio Shower; Musea/Gazul) 18.Mandragora Lightshow Society-- "Magic Rushroom" (Beyond the Mushroam Gate; Liquid Sound) 19.Farflung-- "Fun w/Your New Head" (Prototype of a Traveler?; Liquid Sound) 20.Pseudo Buddha-- "Solo" (Motive; Uncle Buzz...) 21.Cyber Zen Sound Engine/Matt Borgi-- "Code Breaking" (Intercepted Transmissions; N-Light-N) 22.Vas Deferens Org-- "Effortless Pilgrimage Against Ashes" (Zyzzybalouba; Ether) 23.David Thomas and the Wooden Birds-- "A Fact About Trains" (Blame the Messenger; Twin Tone) 24.Faust-- "Che vah Buddoohmm...." (71 Minutes; ReR/Cuneiform) 25.Mushroom-- "Terry and Jerry/Super Good Bags" (Foxy Music; InnerSpace/Clearspot) 26.Tomorrow-- "Auntie Mary's Dress Shop/Strawberry Fields Forever" (ST'd; Parlophone) 27.Krel-- "Nomad" (Ad Astra; Dead Ernest) 28.Hawkwind-- "Urban Guerilla" (Doremi Fasol Latido CD Remaster; EMI, etc) 29.Manilla Road-- "The Asylum" (Mystification CD Remaster; Sentinel Steel) thanks, Chuck From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 00:58:48 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:58:48 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: I'm sure there are alot of us out there that want to see the Warrior album re-released SO! I am going to start a petition which I would like to send to the Griffin people - who, as I understand, own the rights to that particular album. I know there are a lot of folks on this list so we should be able to get a decent petition going if everyone pitches in. I would also like to have a page at the Electric Tepee that lists everyone in the petione by Name (First name only if you prefer) & or e-mail. Here is a sample petition you could copy and paste into the email: ------------------------------------------- To whom it may concern, (Griffin Records) We would like to present, to you, this petition of request that the album Warrior On The Edge Of Time - By Hawkwind be re-released as soon as possible - as we feel that re-release has been long overdue. Signed, (( your name & or email )) ----------------------------------------------- *** If you think this petition can be improved upon - feel free to add your ideas to the email with your petition. Any other albums that you think deserve a re-release - speak up :-) email me off list @ .... Michaelangelo68 at aol.com (( with WARRIOR PETITION in the subject heading)) Alternatively - you could also get any friends who don't have email to write me at Michael Blackman c/-o The Electric Tepee 2 Brett Cres Hallett Cove South Australia 5158 Australia Thanks, in advance, for your support Michael B From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Feb 20 03:29:45 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:29:45 +1100 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: I organised the Release Ivan Milat appeal so maybe I can help. I even arranged his job as night manager of a backpackers hostel. He has been great and has volunteered to do tours down the Hume Highway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time > I'm sure there are alot of us out there that want to see the Warrior album > re-released > > SO! > > I am going to start a petition which I would like to send to the Griffin > people - who, as I understand, own the rights to that particular album. I > know there are a lot of folks on this list so we should be able to get a > decent petition going if everyone pitches in. > > I would also like to have a page at the Electric Tepee that lists everyone in > the petione by Name (First name only if you prefer) & or e-mail. > Here is a sample petition you could copy and paste into the email: > ------------------------------------------- > To whom it may concern, (Griffin Records) > > We would like to present, to you, this petition of request that the album > Warrior On The Edge Of Time - By Hawkwind > be re-released as soon as possible - as we feel that re-release has been long > overdue. > > Signed, > (( your name & or email )) > ----------------------------------------------- > *** If you think this petition can be improved upon - feel free to add your > ideas to the email with your petition. > > Any other albums that you think deserve a re-release - speak up :-) > > email me off list @ .... Michaelangelo68 at aol.com (( with WARRIOR PETITION > in the subject heading)) > > Alternatively - you could also get any friends who don't have email to write > me at > > Michael Blackman > c/-o The Electric Tepee > 2 Brett Cres > Hallett Cove > South Australia 5158 > Australia > > Thanks, in advance, for your support > Michael B > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 03:45:31 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:45:31 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 20/02/02 6:55:51 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU writes: > I organised the Release Ivan Milat appeal so maybe I can help. I even > arranged his job as night manager of a backpackers hostel. He has been > great and has volunteered to do tours down the Hume Highway. LoL - ok - you're in man!! :-) I'll put you down on the list - cheers From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Feb 20 06:29:25 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:29:25 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: Steve Skane wrote: > I organised the Release Ivan Milat appeal so maybe I can help. LMAO - I guess you have to be an aussie to appreciate that one. LOL Bill From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 20 06:32:08 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:32:08 GMT Subject: OFF: Ozzy Osbourne launches own TV show In-Reply-To: Bill Stewart's message of Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:58:42 EST Message-ID: Bill Stewart writes: > Sorry, disregard my post...as always, Holmsey got it right! How's the skiing > Mike? Only been to Zermatt so far. Lovely village. Not much snow. Possibly Whistler next.... FoFP From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 06:38:36 2002 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Hotmail) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:38:36 -0000 Subject: OFF: Sweet drummer dies Message-ID: Aiieee!! That makes me deaf! What a ridiculous mistake for me to make. No wonder it didn't make sense! Cheers Doug! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Sweet drummer dies > On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:34:23 -0000, Chris Allen > wrote: > >Who is it that played with The Sweet who's now in a band called High On > >Fire? > > Um ... High On Fire is ex-SLEEP (the band that opened for Nikwind on > their '94 US tour), not ex-Sweet ... > > -Doug > jasret at mindspring.com > From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 20 07:17:53 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:17:53 +0300 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: > I am going to start a petition which I would like to send to the Griffin > people - who, as I understand, own the rights to that particular album. I Dave Brock owns the rights for this album. From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Feb 20 07:33:40 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:33:40 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the charisma releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same for warrior as well? If doug smith has the masters than surely he owns them and its down to him if they are to be re-released on cd? colm From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 07:43:46 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:43:46 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 20/02/02 10:48:45 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, coral at APORT.RU writes: > Dave Brock owns the rights for this album. Oooooh - well thats not what I've been informed...... From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 20 07:45:00 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:45:00 +0300 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: > when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the charisma > releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same for > warrior as well? No. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 07:54:22 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:54:22 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 20/02/02 11:03:46 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK writes: > when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the charisma > releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same for > warrior as well? > Dunno - all I know is that Dave has mentioned that Griffin has the rights to releasing Warrior at the moment and that we need to petition Griffin if we wanna see it released Obviously Hawkwind would have royalty rights etc From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Feb 20 07:55:37 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:55:37 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: you want to explain why then? On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:45:00 +0300, Alice wrote: >> when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the >charisma >> releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same for >> warrior as well? > >No. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 07:57:05 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:57:05 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 20/02/02 11:16:04 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, coral at APORT.RU writes: > No. > Who art thou - oh most knowledgable one? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 20 08:24:43 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:24:43 GMT Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time In-Reply-To: Alice's message of Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:45:00 +0300 Message-ID: Alice writes: > > when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the > charisma > > releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same for > > warrior as well? > > No. I thought the master tapes for Warrior were missing? FoFP From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 08:29:08 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:29:08 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 20/02/02 11:55:11 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > I thought the master tapes for Warrior were missing? > But, then, what did Grifin use back in the 90's?? or did they lose them? hmmmm - obviously they would have a glass master for the cd pressing - maybe thats what it is Well - Im gonna have a midnight snak now - maybe a couple of small lizards and a wichetty grub - .... mmmmmmmmmmmmm should do the trick Colonial Blackman From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 20 08:32:54 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:32:54 GMT Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time In-Reply-To: Michael W Blackman's message of Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:29:08 EST Message-ID: Michael W Blackman writes: > In a message dated 20/02/02 11:55:11 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > > > I thought the master tapes for Warrior were missing? > > > > But, then, what did Grifin use back in the 90's?? or did they lose them? I'd heard they took it from a vinyl copy and cleaned it up. Mike Coleman is the expert on this stuff, though he may be unconcious as I was expecting mail from him a couple of weeks ago. FoFP From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 20 08:47:37 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:47:37 +0300 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: > you want to explain why then? My guess is that Dave Brock wants to release it on big label with good contract for this special release. Master tapes are not missing. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Wed Feb 20 09:11:30 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:11:30 -0600 Subject: OFF: Rockers spooked by singing nuns Message-ID: http://www.thisisbrightonandhove.co.uk/brighton__hove/archive/2002/02/19/NEWS150ZM.html Rockers spooked by singing nuns by Tom Pugh Heavy rockers who use a converted nunnery as a studio are being spooked by the eerie sound of hymn-singing. Whenever Cobra crank up the decibels, they hear ghostly female voices. Members of the four-strong band reckon the spirits of the nuns are trying to overwhelm what they think is the Devil's music. Guitarist The Axe - real name Clive Rogers, 44 - said: "There is nothing nasty or unpleasant about our music. It's just no-nonsense new classic rock. "But every time we crank up the volume and really get things moving, we can hear these female voices singing hymns. "It's really eerie but only happens when we are belting out something loud and proud." Chapel Studios in Belmore Road, Eastbourne, was converted into a studio from a garage three months ago. However, the sizeable brick building used to be a nunnery at the turn of the 20th Century, with a cobbled yard where horses were tethered. Many other rock bands play at the studio but the choristers only seem to surface when Cobra belt out their brand of rock, a cross between Led Zeppelin and Metallica. Studio owner and band member Vince Von Bastrum, 38, said: "It's very bizarre. "It's a high-pitched sound which can be heard over the band, no matter how loud they play. "I have heard it myself and the funny thing is it doesn't happen with my other clients working with more relaxed music. "It's just Cobra's rock that seems to set it off." Vince, whose real surname is Webb, plans to move into a flat above the studio, despite the reluctance of his girlfriend. He said: "She says 'I'm not going near that place if it's haunted'. "To be honest it doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact, I think it gives the place a bit more of an attraction." From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Feb 20 09:53:25 2002 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:53:25 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time In-Reply-To: <200202201255.HAA18622@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In general, possession (guardianship) of recordings does not equal the right to duplicate for commercial gain. (It's called "copyright"). Sepcifically, I have no idea of the parties involved with this particular issue. Alasdair On 20 Feb 2002 at 7:55, mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK wrote: > you want to explain why then? > > > On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:45:00 +0300, Alice wrote: > > >> when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the > >charisma > >> releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same > >> for warrior as well? > > > >No. > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Feb 20 11:11:51 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:11:51 -0500 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: Hey... (Note that this works in Europe only, and only in military time. But who's being picky?) :) Grakkl (FAA) A bit of very interesting trivia...... February 20 this year will be a historic moment in time. It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, on that specific date, something will happen which has not occurred for 1,001 years, and will never happen again. As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, February 20, time will, for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, or to be more precise 20:02 20/02 2002 This historic event will never have the same poignancy as the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month which marks Armistice Day, but it is an event which has only ever happened once before, and is something which will never be repeated. The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock at 10.01am on January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that will never happen again. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 20 11:34:59 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:34:59 GMT Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? In-Reply-To: K Henderson's message of Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:11:51 -0500 Message-ID: K Henderson writes: > Hey... > > (Note that this works in Europe only, and only in military time. > But who's being picky?) :) > > Grakkl (FAA) > > A bit of very interesting trivia...... > February 20 this year will be > a historic moment in time. > > It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks > or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, > on that specific date, something will happen > which has not occurred for 1,001 years, > and will never happen again. > As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, > February 20, time will, for sixty seconds only, > read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, > or to be more precise > > 20:02 20/02 2002 > > This historic event will never have the same > poignancy as the 11th hour of the 11th day of the > 11th month which marks Armistice Day, > but it is an event which has only ever happened > once before, and is something which > will never be repeated. > > The last occasion that time read in such > a symmetrical pattern was long before the days > of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock at > > 10.01am on January 10, 1001. > > And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, > it is something that will never happen again. Not even at 21.12 on 21/12/2112 ? FoFP From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Feb 20 11:30:22 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:30:22 -0500 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: >From Fernando Poo, where they obviously have a better track of time, the following sprung forth... >> And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, >> it is something that will never happen again. > >Not even at 21.12 on 21/12/2112 ? Hey, I didn't actually write the thing...I just forwarded it! :) Grakkl (FAA), if who lives to be 148 years old, promises now and swears upon the pinched falsetto of Geddy Lee's vocals chords, to listen to Rush's 2112 at that exact moment. From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Feb 20 11:49:27 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:49:27 -0000 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: Yes it has and yes it will: 10:01 10/01 1001 11:11 11/11 1111 21:12 21/12 2112 (except in the US of course :-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:11 PM Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? > Hey... > > (Note that this works in Europe only, and only in military time. > But who's being picky?) :) > > Grakkl (FAA) > > A bit of very interesting trivia...... > February 20 this year will be > a historic moment in time. > > It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks > or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, > on that specific date, something will happen > which has not occurred for 1,001 years, > and will never happen again. > As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, > February 20, time will, for sixty seconds only, > read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, > or to be more precise > > 20:02 20/02 2002 > > This historic event will never have the same > poignancy as the 11th hour of the 11th day of the > 11th month which marks Armistice Day, > but it is an event which has only ever happened > once before, and is something which > will never be repeated. > > The last occasion that time read in such > a symmetrical pattern was long before the days > of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock at > > 10.01am on January 10, 1001. > > And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, > it is something that will never happen again. From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 12:14:54 2002 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:14:54 +0000 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: How do I unsubscribe from this list? >From: K Henderson >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: Reason to celebrate? >Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:30:22 -0500 > >>From Fernando Poo, where they obviously have a better track of time, the >following sprung forth... > > >> And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, > >> it is something that will never happen again. > > > >Not even at 21.12 on 21/12/2112 ? > >Hey, I didn't actually write the thing...I just forwarded it! :) > >Grakkl (FAA), if who lives to be 148 years old, promises now and swears >upon >the pinched falsetto of Geddy Lee's vocals chords, to listen to Rush's 2112 >at that exact moment. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Feb 20 12:26:47 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:26:47 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: i was under the impression that the english release of the warrior cd on the dojo labwl was mastered from vinyl while the US griffin release was mastererd from copies of the original master tapes that are held somewhere in the US. Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time > Alice writes: > > > > when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the > > charisma > > > releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same for > > > warrior as well? > > > > No. > > > I thought the master tapes for Warrior were missing? > > FoFP From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 12:36:13 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:36:13 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 12:03:09 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > I'd heard they took it from a vinyl copy and cleaned it up. > > Mike Coleman is the expert on this stuff, though he may be unconcious as I > was > expecting mail from him a couple of weeks ago. My understanding was that the DOJO release was taken from LP and the griffin release was from the master tapes - and I'm pretty sure I got that from Mike Coleman. fascinating stuff From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 12:43:02 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:43:02 EST Subject: OFF: Rockers spooked by singing nuns Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 12:45:34 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, kkusic at EXECPC.COM writes: > Heavy rockers who use a converted nunnery as a > studio are being spooked by the eerie sound of > hymn-singing. > > Whenever Cobra crank up the decibels, they hear > ghostly female voices. > Fascinating story - theres a good chance its only a resonant feedback kind of noise or something similar which is caused by their particular sound and use of fx etc etc and the building itself - there could be an area in the room that is trapping the sound and amplifying it - Still - nothing like a spooky story From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 12:45:25 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:45:25 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 1:23:20 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK writes: > (It's called "copyright"). > ah -thats what that is - I always thought it was a condiment used in ancient Egypt thousands of years ago LoL Don't take this serious dude - From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 12:53:18 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:53:18 EST Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 3:02:37 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > A bit of very interesting trivia...... > February 20 this year will be > a historic moment in time. > no doubt I'll be snoozing and miss the whole damn thing LoL From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 12:56:16 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:56:16 EST Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 3:05:00 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Not even at 21.12 on 21/12/2112 ? > I wonder if anything REALLY really REALLY weird happens at 12:12:12 on the 21st 12th 2112 all those ones and twos - From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 12:58:46 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:58:46 EST Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 3:47:47 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > How do I unsubscribe from this list? you have to carve out a pumpkin - then stick it on your head so you can see thru the little eye slits THEN you have to hop up and down on one leg while chanting verses from the Koran THEN after you've done that go to the BOC thingy place and unsubscribe yourself very similar to the way you subscribed From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 13:02:56 2002 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:02:56 +0000 Subject: subscription Message-ID: ------------------------------------------------------------------------Please unsubscribe me from this list _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 13:07:17 2002 From: fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM (Fraser Gray) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:07:17 +0000 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: "hehe", and, as it were "he" u r a funny guy >From: Michael W Blackman >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: Reason to celebrate? >Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:58:46 EST > >In a message dated 21/02/02 3:47:47 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, >fraser141 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: > > > > How do I unsubscribe from this list? > >you have to carve out a pumpkin - then stick it on your head so you can see >thru the little eye slits > >THEN > >you have to hop up and down on one leg while chanting verses from the Koran > >THEN > >after you've done that > >go to the BOC thingy place and unsubscribe yourself > >very similar to the way you subscribed _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Feb 20 13:36:40 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:36:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: Rockers spooked by singing nuns In-Reply-To: <3C73AE92.63E1321D@execpc.com>; from kkusic@EXECPC.COM on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 08:11:30AM -0600 Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 08:11:30AM -0600, Karen Kusic wrote: > Heavy rockers who use a converted nunnery as a > studio are being spooked by the eerie sound of > hymn-singing. Neighbours playing "stereo war"? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / One ring to rule the mall. - Movie review headline, eye Magazine From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 20 13:44:48 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:44:48 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: The UK Dojo CD release was mastered from the vinyl (got a copy for sale if anyone wants one), and the Griffin release, I understood, was from a second set of masters held by ATCO in the USA, possibly due to the inability of EMI to find the original UK Masters for the album(is this the reason why there was no release with the other Remasters in 1996?) EMI did such a beautiful job of remastering those albums, it would be a shame if they didn't do Warrior eventually, I imagine it would sell bucketloads. Can Anyone from the Hawkwind Camp, or any of the Kollectors(You know who you are) confirm the facts? Rich W From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Feb 20 13:51:01 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:51:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? In-Reply-To: <018c01c1ba2e$8eeca560$66b2eec3@development.bloomsbury.com>; from kevin.perry@VIRGIN.NET on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 04:49:27PM -0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 04:49:27PM -0000, Kevin Perry wrote: > 10:01 10/01 1001 Works in both Europe and N.A., but on different days. The MM/DD vs. DD/MM thing... > 21:12 21/12 2112 (except in the US of course :-)) I sure hope N.A. will be on 24-hour time by then. (Maybe the U.S. will even have gone Metric, and U.K. will have finished switching over.) But this one'll happen on a different day too, according to the Orthodox church. I bet they'll *still* be on the Julian calendar in another century. > 11:11 11/11 1111 This is the only one that's universal and unambiguous -- besides being the coolest, with only one digit... And it even happened during Hildegard of Bingen's lifetime (not that anyone else here will care ;-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / One ring to rule the mall. - Movie review headline, eye Magazine From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Feb 20 13:52:07 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:52:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? In-Reply-To: <200202201650.LAA15503@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:30:22AM -0500 Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:30:22AM -0500, K Henderson wrote: > Grakkl (FAA), if who lives to be 148 years old, promises now and swears upon > the pinched falsetto of Geddy Lee's vocals chords, to listen to Rush's 2112 > at that exact moment. Speaking of Ayn Rand... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / One ring to rule the mall. - Movie review headline, eye Magazine From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Feb 20 13:55:11 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:55:11 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time In-Reply-To: <200202201233.HAA18350@listserv.spc.edu>; from mr_bt@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:33:40AM -0500 Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:33:40AM -0500, mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK wrote: > If doug smith has the masters than surely he owns them That's a rather unwarranted assumption :-/ -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / One ring to rule the mall. - Movie review headline, eye Magazine From sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU Wed Feb 20 14:02:09 2002 From: sskane at BIGPOND.NET.AU (Steven Skane) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:02:09 +1100 Subject: OFF: Rockers spooked by singing nuns Message-ID: Publicity stunt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael W Blackman" To: Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:43 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Rockers spooked by singing nuns > In a message dated 21/02/02 12:45:34 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, > kkusic at EXECPC.COM writes: > > > > Heavy rockers who use a converted nunnery as a > > studio are being spooked by the eerie sound of > > hymn-singing. > > > > Whenever Cobra crank up the decibels, they hear > > ghostly female voices. > > > > Fascinating story - theres a good chance its only a resonant feedback kind of > noise or something similar which is caused by their particular sound and use > of fx etc etc > and the building itself - there could be an area in the room that is trapping > the sound and amplifying it - > > Still - nothing like a spooky story > From mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK Wed Feb 20 15:04:43 2002 From: mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK (Colm McWilliams) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:04:43 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: Colm McWilliams ICQ: #62753543 Currently listening to: From: "Eric Siegerman" > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:33:40AM -0500, mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK wrote: > > If doug smith has the masters than surely he owns them > > That's a rather unwarranted assumption :-/ > i don't think its an assumption for at least the charisma material anyway. If you read my earlier post you would have seen that i asked Dave Brock about re-issuing the charisma stuff on cd and he said that Doug Smith has the masters. colm From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Feb 20 15:59:14 2002 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:59:14 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time In-Reply-To: <001301c1ba49$d6f2cd60$9ee2c150@gypo>; from mr_bt@BLUEYONDER.CO.UK on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 08:04:43PM -0000 Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 08:04:43PM -0000, Colm McWilliams wrote: > From: "Eric Siegerman" > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:33:40AM -0500, mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK wrote: > > > If doug smith has the masters than surely he owns them > > > > That's a rather unwarranted assumption :-/ > > > > i don't think its an assumption for at least the charisma material anyway. I meant, it's unwarranted to assume that physical possession of the tapes implies ownership of what's on them. If it's Dave's copyright, but Doug has the tapes, neither of them can release the thing without the other's cooperation. (Well, Doug *could*, but not legally.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / One ring to rule the mall. - Movie review headline, eye Magazine From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 20 16:04:23 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:04:23 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: Well we could all take a trip round to Dougs en masse and camp out in his office until he gives up the tapes, anyway surely Griffin have glass masters Dave could use. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Siegerman" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 08:04:43PM -0000, Colm McWilliams wrote: > > From: "Eric Siegerman" > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:33:40AM -0500, mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK wrote: > > > > If doug smith has the masters than surely he owns them > > > > > > That's a rather unwarranted assumption :-/ > > > > > > > i don't think its an assumption for at least the charisma material anyway. > > I meant, it's unwarranted to assume that physical possession of > the tapes implies ownership of what's on them. If it's Dave's > copyright, but Doug has the tapes, neither of them can release > the thing without the other's cooperation. (Well, Doug *could*, > but not legally.) > > -- > > | | /\ > |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com > | | / > One ring to rule the mall. > - Movie review headline, eye Magazine From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Feb 20 16:09:15 2002 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:09:15 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: > The UK Dojo CD release was mastered from the vinyl (got a copy for sale if > anyone wants one), and the Griffin release, I understood, was from a second > set of masters held by ATCO in the USA, possibly due to the inability of EMI > to find the original UK Masters for the album(is this the reason why there > was no release with the other Remasters in 1996?) > > EMI did such a beautiful job of remastering those albums, it would be a > shame if they didn't do Warrior eventually, I imagine it would sell > bucketloads. Some years ago (pre-EMI remasters), when asked in an interview why the Warrior material wasn't included on the EMI Masters of the Universe comp, the reply from Dave, I think, was that the album was 'out of contract'. Not sure quite what this meant, but if the band had signed a contract with UA/Liberty for 5 albums that take take them up to Hall Of The Mountain Grill. It may be that Warrior was recorded under a separate contract? Dunno, just speculating with that. Nick From Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM Wed Feb 20 16:42:57 2002 From: Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM (Laura Waesche) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:42:57 -0700 Subject: OFF: Rockers spooked by singing nuns Message-ID: It's also possible that the echoes of the songs from the past have never quite died out and the new music is stirring that up. At least in theory that's possible. -----Original Message----- From: Michael W Blackman [mailto:Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:43 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Rockers spooked by singing nuns In a message dated 21/02/02 12:45:34 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, kkusic at EXECPC.COM writes: > Heavy rockers who use a converted nunnery as a > studio are being spooked by the eerie sound of > hymn-singing. > > Whenever Cobra crank up the decibels, they hear > ghostly female voices. > Fascinating story - theres a good chance its only a resonant feedback kind of noise or something similar which is caused by their particular sound and use of fx etc etc and the building itself - there could be an area in the room that is trapping the sound and amplifying it - Still - nothing like a spooky story From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 16:29:15 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:29:15 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 2/20/2002 3:59:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: > If it's Dave's > copyright, but Doug has the tapes, neither of them can release > the thing without the other's cooperation it is concievable that one party can own the actual tapes, and another can own the recordings captured on the tapes...'own' in both cases means 'has the legal right to use/exploit'. legally using/exploiting the tapes, if one does not own what's captured on them, does not allow using what's captured on them. ahh...intellectual property law...very interesting... bobm From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Feb 20 17:47:13 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:47:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:11:51 -0500, K Henderson wrote: >Hey... > >A bit of very interesting trivia...... >February 20 this year will be >a historic moment in time. Of course it will........ It's my BIRTHDAY !!!! From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Feb 20 17:59:47 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:59:47 +0800 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: Rik Rx Of course it will........ It's my BIRTHDAY !!!! Happy Birthday, Rik! Are you 21 again? Cheers Bill From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Feb 20 17:55:21 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:55:21 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: No - EMI have the master tapes for the Charisma material and the Warrior album. I have been told why none of them can be released, I cannot divulge what and from whom this has come because I cannot vouch for the truth of it, so for now it must remain with me until I get some indication that what I have been told is correct. Sorry to be so cryptic but it's the best I can do. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alasdair Macdonald" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time > In general, possession (guardianship) of recordings does not equal the right to > duplicate for commercial gain. > > (It's called "copyright"). > > Sepcifically, I have no idea of the parties involved with this particular issue. > > Alasdair > > On 20 Feb 2002 at 7:55, mr_bt at BLUEYONDER.CO.UK wrote: > > > you want to explain why then? > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:45:00 +0300, Alice wrote: > > > > >> when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the > > >charisma > > >> releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same > > >> for warrior as well? > > > > > >No. > > From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Feb 20 17:58:29 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:58:29 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: true on the first count - not necessarily so on the second. Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colm McWilliams" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time > i was under the impression that the english release of the warrior cd on the > dojo labwl was mastered from vinyl while the US griffin release was > mastererd from copies of the original master tapes that are held somewhere > in the US. > > > > Colm McWilliams > ICQ: #62753543 > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M Holmes" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time > > > > Alice writes: > > > > > > when i spoke to Dave Brock on IRC a while ago he said that for the > > > charisma > > > > releases that Doug Smith has the master tapes, maybe its the same for > > > > warrior as well? > > > > > > No. > > > > > > I thought the master tapes for Warrior were missing? > > > > FoFP From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Wed Feb 20 17:57:30 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:57:30 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: well, technically EMI still own th rights to the album if you want to be picky - Griffin merely had all the Hawkwind albums licensed to them for territorial release, and so have no say in what they can do without going back to the band,Doug Smith, EMI or any combination. In short,their hands are tied. Andy G ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time > > I am going to start a petition which I would like to send to the Griffin > > people - who, as I understand, own the rights to that particular album. I > > Dave Brock owns the rights for this album. From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Feb 20 18:18:02 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:18:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:59:47 +0800, Bill & Cynthia wrote: > Rik Rx > >Of course it will........ It's my BIRTHDAY !!!! > >Happy Birthday, Rik! > >Are you 21 again? > >Cheers >Bill Spookily....... YES 21 for the second time around exactly Deep Thought......... Rx From hw at CY-B.ORG Wed Feb 20 18:21:46 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:21:46 -0500 Subject: HW: Tv Question Message-ID: Hey.... The Bolan Tv Appearance is well documented, but I also seem to remember an appearance on "Razamatazz" Any1 shed info on this? or has tthe Absynthe fairy finally got me? Rz From rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 20 18:28:08 2002 From: rich.warren at BTINTERNET.COM (Rich Warren) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:28:08 -0600 Subject: HW: Tv Question Message-ID: I don't know Rik I was probably 6 at the time :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik Rx" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: HW: Tv Question > Hey.... > > The Bolan Tv Appearance is well documented, but > I also seem to remember an appearance on "Razamatazz" > > Any1 shed info on this? or has tthe Absynthe fairy > finally got me? > > Rz From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 19:08:31 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:08:31 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 8:15:44 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes: > it is concievable that one party can own the actual tapes, and another can > own the recordings captured on the tapes...'own' in both cases means 'has > the > legal right to use/exploit'. legally using/exploiting the tapes, if one > does > not own what's captured on them, does not allow using what's captured on I take it - no one wants to petition Griffin untill an official verdict has been made from the Masters of our Universe?? Bruce From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 19:11:54 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:11:54 EST Subject: OFF: Rockers spooked by singing nuns Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 8:16:19 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, Laura.Waesche at CEXP.COM writes: > It's also possible that the echoes of the songs from the past have never > quite died out and the new music is stirring that up. At least in theory > that's possible. > > True - maybe they are just "getting down" with the sound. You know - its been ages since they got funky and they dig that bands music and just can't refrain from joining in Bruce From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 20 19:19:24 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 03:19:24 +0300 Subject: HW: HW chatroom - total disaster Message-ID: Hello! I just wanted to say that the webmaster of HW webpage and main moderator of the chat has just banned me from it. Ok, here we see how one furious person can treat and push away HW fans... "<^Hawkbot^> f**k off and don't come back" he said. For no particular reason. All I was saying was my unsatisfactory with the long work on site. very good... bye all with whom I chatted before on this chat channel. Alisa From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Wed Feb 20 19:18:51 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:18:51 -0500 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: My 49th birthday,never to be repeated... tim K Henderson wrote: > > Hey... > > (Note that this works in Europe only, and only in military time. > But who's being picky?) :) > > Grakkl (FAA) > > A bit of very interesting trivia...... > February 20 this year will be > a historic moment in time. > > It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks > or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, > on that specific date, something will happen > which has not occurred for 1,001 years, > and will never happen again. > As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, > February 20, time will, for sixty seconds only, > read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, > or to be more precise > > 20:02 20/02 2002 > > This historic event will never have the same > poignancy as the 11th hour of the 11th day of the > 11th month which marks Armistice Day, > but it is an event which has only ever happened > once before, and is something which > will never be repeated. > > The last occasion that time read in such > a symmetrical pattern was long before the days > of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock at > > 10.01am on January 10, 1001. > > And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, > it is something that will never happen again. From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 19:25:45 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:25:45 EST Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 9:18:16 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, hw at CY-B.ORG writes: > Of course it will........ It's my BIRTHDAY !!!! Well HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY good sir!!! From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 19:26:44 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:26:44 EST Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 9:27:44 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU writes: > Of course it will........ It's my BIRTHDAY !!!! > > Happy Birthday, Rik! > > Are you 21 again? > > Cheers > Well - looks like we all HAVE to get pissed tonight to celebrate Riks birthday From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 19:44:57 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:44:57 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 9:35:44 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM writes: > No - EMI have the master tapes for the Charisma material and the Warrior > album. I have been told why none of them can be released, I cannot divulge > what and from whom this has come because I cannot vouch for the truth of > it, > so for now it must remain with me until I get some indication that what I > have been told is correct. > Sorry to be so cryptic but it's the best I can do. > Andy G. > Vee haff zee vays to make you talk Herr G Now vere are ze ABBA tapes brb From coral at APORT.RU Wed Feb 20 19:50:46 2002 From: coral at APORT.RU (Alice) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 03:50:46 +0300 Subject: HW: HW chatroom - total disaster Message-ID: We solved the problem. Sorry for disturbing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice" To: Sent: 21 ??????? 2002 ?. 3:19 Subject: HW: HW chatroom - total disaster > Hello! > > I just wanted to say that the webmaster of HW webpage and main moderator of > the chat has just banned me from it. Ok, here we see how one furious person > can treat and push away HW fans... > > "<^Hawkbot^> f**k off and don't come back" he said. For no particular > reason. All I was saying was my unsatisfactory with the long work on site. > > very good... bye all with whom I chatted before on this chat channel. > > Alisa > From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 20 19:51:46 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:51:46 EST Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 9:51:50 AM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, hw at CY-B.ORG writes: > Spookily....... YES > 21 for the second time around exactly > just means you have to have twice as much fun this time From richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 20 21:37:18 2002 From: richjan60 at HOTMAIL.COM (Richard Graham) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 02:37:18 +0000 Subject: HW: HW chatroom - total disaster Message-ID: Who are you in the past 7 days you have branded ICU as money grabbers (strange as all thier music is free on thier site and Trev used to play in my pub on sundays for beer money only) and now your off on one about the website witch IMHO is well presented and updated maybe if people stopped slagging off the designers of the new one we could all see it and enjoy it sooner >From: Alice >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: HW chatroom - total disaster >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 03:50:46 +0300 > >We solved the problem. Sorry for disturbing. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Alice" >To: >Sent: 21 ??????? 2002 ?. 3:19 >Subject: HW: HW chatroom - total disaster > > > > Hello! > > > > I just wanted to say that the webmaster of HW webpage and main moderator >of > > the chat has just banned me from it. Ok, here we see how one furious >person > > can treat and push away HW fans... > > > > "<^Hawkbot^> f**k off and don't come back" he said. For no particular > > reason. All I was saying was my unsatisfactory with the long work on >site. > > > > very good... bye all with whom I chatted before on this chat channel. > > > > Alisa > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 21 04:40:34 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:40:34 -0000 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: > > 21:12 21/12 2112 (except in the US of course :-)) > > I sure hope N.A. will be on 24-hour time by then. (Maybe the > U.S. will even have gone Metric, and U.K. will have finished > switching over.) Wouldn't that be 12th of 21st month though in the US? > > 11:11 11/11 1111 10:01 10/01 1001 is even cooler 'cause it's binary (geek mode off). From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 21 07:22:41 2002 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:22:41 +0800 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: Michael scribbled: > Well - looks like we all HAVE to get pissed tonight to celebrate Riks > birthday > Working on that now :-) Bill From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 21 07:46:02 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:46:02 EST Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: In a message dated 21/02/02 8:16:22 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET writes: > Wouldn't that be 12th of 21st month though in the US? > Thats what u get for having the date around the wrong way ;-) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 21 12:03:35 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:03:35 -0500 Subject: HW: HW chatroom - total disaster Message-ID: RG said... >Who are you in the past 7 days you have branded ICU as money grabbers I don't recall that. I thought she just announced that somebody had sold her a el-cheapo CDR version of an ICU disc for 12UKP, eq. to about $18, which is not at all right. I don't remember her saying that she bought it from ICU. I assumed she bought it from some unscrupulous dealer. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) I consider that useful information, such that maybe in the future somebody would question a dealer what they might be getting in the mail after paying that much for one. I paid $10 for the one I got, and I bought it in person, so I would have had no excuse. :) I'll let the remainder of the content of this thread to drift away quite silently...seems a misunderstanding has been cleared and we already had one public fight on that front. Grakkl (FAA) From stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK Thu Feb 21 13:44:54 2002 From: stuart.hamilton at SCOTTISH.PARLIAMENT.UK (Z E Itgeist) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:44:54 -0500 Subject: BOC: Confirmed dates Message-ID: Just in case; The legendary Blue Oyster Cult are coming to the UK to play seven shows. They happen at Milton Keynes Stables May 14, Newcastle Opera House 15, Swansea Patti Pavilion 16, London Astoria 17, Bilston Robin 2 18, Sheffield Leadmill 19, Glasgow Renfrewshire Ferry 20. From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Feb 21 13:54:43 2002 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:54:43 -0800 Subject: cognitive dissonance Message-ID: The acronym BOC is causing my brain to hurt lately... on another list I'm on a bunch of the members just went to a Guitar Craft course and are reporting on it. One of the things that happens is that students form small groups and perform for the other students and instructors (which included Fripp and 2 members of the California Guitar Trio.) One of the groups named themselves Blast O' Crap. Subsequent messages referring to BOC are abundant..... From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 21 12:54:24 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:54:24 EDT Subject: BOC: Confirmed dates In-Reply-To: <200202211844.NAA26287@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On 21 Feb 2002, at 13:44, Z E Itgeist wrote: > Just in case; > > The legendary Blue Oyster Cult are coming to the UK to play seven > shows. They happen at Milton Keynes Stables May 14, Newcastle Opera > House 15, Swansea Patti Pavilion 16, London Astoria 17, Bilston Robin > 2 18, Sheffield Leadmill 19, Glasgow Renfrewshire Ferry 20. You lucky devils! That's almost as many gigs as they've played in the US so far this year. So they should be well rested and rarin' to kick some ass. They usually don't play here much until summer when they concentrate on outdoor festival shows... I'd stronly suggest that the UK fans try to catch a couple of these shows. B?C's been really strong lately... theo From Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 21 14:21:40 2002 From: Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Rob Robinson) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:21:40 -0000 Subject: BOC -uk dates Message-ID: from Totalrock: >The legendary Blue Oyster Cult are coming to the UK to play seven shows. They happen at Milton Keynes Stables May 14, Newcastle Opera House 15, Swansea Patti Pavilion 16, London Astoria 17, Bilston Robin 2 18, Sheffield Leadmill 19, Glasgow Renfrewshire Ferry 20.< From jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR Thu Feb 21 16:07:51 2002 From: jcmoriaud at YAHOO.FR (Jean-Charles Moriaud) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:07:51 +0100 Subject: Confirmed dates In-Reply-To: <200202211844.NAA26287@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Again, I am asking why only UK? Why not France or Switzerland? WHY? -----Message d'origine----- De : BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] De la part de Z E Itgeist Envoy? : jeudi 21 f?vrier 2002 19:45 ? : BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Objet : BOC: Confirmed dates Just in case; The legendary Blue Oyster Cult are coming to the UK to play seven shows. They happen at Milton Keynes Stables May 14, Newcastle Opera House 15, Swansea Patti Pavilion 16, London Astoria 17, Bilston Robin 2 18, Sheffield Leadmill 19, Glasgow Renfrewshire Ferry 20. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Feb 21 17:19:56 2002 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:19:56 -0600 Subject: OFF: [Fwd: [allthingsprog] Announcement: Philadelphia Underground Music & Culture Festival] Message-ID: Sound cool! Church of Hed (featuring members of Quarkspace -www.quarkspace.com/coh.htm) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [allthingsprog] Announcement: Philadelphia Underground Music & Culture Festival Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:17:39 +0000 From: mike eldon Reply-To: allthingsprog at yahoogroups.com To: allthingsprog at yahoogroups.com Land of Chocolate headlines the Philadelphia Underground Music and Culture Festival!!!!! JUNE 1ST, 2002: Philadelphia -- The 2002 Philadelphia Underground Music and Culture Festival will be coming to Mt. Airy's Sedgwick Theater on June 1st. This event will be a celebration of the vital, subterranean currents of arts, philosophies, and politics roiling ceaselessly beneath the unsuspecting, mass media-munching denizens of the surface. As Victor Hugo once wrote (albeit in French, of course!): "so many different underground levels, different objectives, different harvests. And what comes of it all? The future." The bands scheduled to perform come from all over the United States and cover a variety of genres: Land of Chocolate (www.landofchocolate.net), The Red Masque (www.theredmasque.com), Persephone's Dream(www.persephonesdream.com), and Church of Hed (featuring members of Quarkspace -www.quarkspace.com/coh.htm). For more information on each of the bands, as well as to download music samples, please visit their individual web sites. The Philadelphia Underground Music and Culture Festival will also showcase interesting and unusual vendors, and other things of interest to seekers everywhere. More information will be announced in the weeks and months preceding the event. Tickets will be available in advance by phone from the Sedgwick (215-248-9229), and via the web through the Persephone's Dream website (www.persephonesdream.com), as well as at the door. Admission is $10 and will be limited to 300 people. For $20, a package including a T-shirt and ticket can be purchased. More information on T-shirt sales TBA. Festival start time is 7pm. For additional details, press inquiries or questions about the event, please email festival organizers, The Red Masque, at theredmasque at yahoo.com. SEDGWICK ADDRESS & CONTACT INFORMATION: 7137 Germantown Avenue, Philadelphia, PA 19119; 215-248-9229; info at sedgwickcenter.org; www.sedgwickcenter.org. From stemfors at PIPELINE.COM Thu Feb 21 17:42:20 2002 From: stemfors at PIPELINE.COM (Stephan Forstner) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:42:20 -0500 Subject: OFF: Reason to celebrate? Message-ID: >> 11:11 11/11 1111 > >This is the only one that's universal and unambiguous -- besides >being the coolest, with only one digit... And it even happened >during Hildegard of Bingen's lifetime (not that anyone else here >will care ;-) I have a disc by a well-known early-music group called Sequentia titled 'Edda - Myths from Medieval Iceland' which I really realy like. It is an attempt to recreate performances of Iceland's bardic tradition and can sound at times like a mix of celtic music, medieval religious singing, and Richard Wagner, all with mythological texts, and I would recommend it to anyone who likes any of the above. The connection being that Sequentia has released a great many discs of Hildegard von Bingen's music. Although I'm not specifically a follower of early music, or religious music, the Edda disc has so impressed me I've considered trying some of Sequentia's Hildegard releases - the only problem being that the sheer volume makes me unsure of where to start. If you have any recommendations let me know! Stephan From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 21 17:57:31 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:57:31 EST Subject: Hawkwind petition - Warrior on the edge of Time Message-ID: In a message dated 2/20/02 7:10:34 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM writes: > I take it - no one wants to petition Griffin untill an official verdict has > been made from the Masters of our Universe?? > > Be better if Dave & Co. could confirm who has the tapes/owns the copyrights/can legally reissue said recordings. Once that info is straight, we petition the hell out of 'em! Joe From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Feb 21 18:04:03 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:04:03 EST Subject: BOC: Confirmed dates Message-ID: In a message dated 2/21/02 1:56:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << 'd stronly suggest that the UK fans try to catch a couple of these shows. B?C's been really strong l How many folks on this list have seen both bands (HW and BOC)? comments??? And where the hell are these so-called MDs and Pharmistists...sists sists sists (chemists as they say) that are so prevalent in these rooms?...With the disaster and all we NEED medical supplies in NY...pain killers, tranquilizers, mood alters and such Best regards, Bill From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Feb 21 18:10:20 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:10:20 EST Subject: Acid Mothers Temple Message-ID: The above will appear at the Knitting Factory (NYC) March 23, Door 8pm. Have your gear or stay home. Have a nice day))) Best regards, Bill Stewart From mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM Thu Feb 21 19:08:53 2002 From: mikemontfort at YAHOO.COM (Duc De Montfort) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:08:53 -0500 Subject: Attn: Gare Koloszar Message-ID: Enter obligatory apology for bandwidth wastage here. Gare Koloszar could you please contact me offlist if you are on this group. Thank you Le Duc From ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET Thu Feb 21 18:28:15 2002 From: ma-paharper at IOPENER.NET (Tim) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:28:15 -0500 Subject: BOC: Confirmed dates Message-ID: hello-ello-ello-ello... echo-echo-echo... just nod if you can hear me-e-e-e-e... oh,yeah,saw BOC a few months back,and did they kick ass-ass-ass... tim Bill Stewart wrote: > > In a message dated 2/21/02 1:56:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, > tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: > > << 'd stronly suggest that the UK fans try to catch a couple of these > shows. B?C's been really strong l > > How many folks on this list have seen both bands (HW and BOC)? comments??? > And where the hell are these so-called MDs and Pharmistists...sists sists > sists (chemists as they say) that are so prevalent in these rooms?...With the > disaster and all we NEED medical supplies in NY...pain killers, > tranquilizers, mood alters and such > Best regards, > Bill From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Feb 21 22:26:52 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:26:52 EST Subject: BOC: Confirmed dates Message-ID: But can you see me nod nod nod zzzzzzzzz the script the script the script hello hello ellllllll oooooo billlllllllll Best regards, From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Feb 21 22:36:24 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:36:24 EST Subject: OFF: ACID Message-ID: Ali broke my speaker...garth must die...Allmans blow big time..don't take the fall for chers boyfriend...must sleep......BAJINA is king sorry they do actually put a chemical in this cardboard..speaker broken.... Mommy waiting for the late show to end best regards, b From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 22 02:32:06 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 02:32:06 EST Subject: Hawkwind - tab for ARIOCH Message-ID: Here is the tab I worked out for the song Arioch. I haven't done the "brige solo section" yet also... I have broken it up a bit to fit it into an email format the little stars ( * ) indicate a repeat ARIOCH ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- *----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- *-----8----8-----6-----8-------6--------8--------9---------8---------6-------- ------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----7------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------6-----7----6------------------ ----------* (4x) ---8----8-----6----8----6-----8-----9-------------------------9------6------8- -----* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ----------5----4-----------------------5-----4-------------------------------- ----------- ----3-----------------5--------3---------------------5-------3---------------- ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- -----------5-----4------------------------5-----4----------------------------- ----------- ----3---------------------5-------3---------------------5--------------------- ----------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ----------5----4-----------------------5-----4-------------------------------- ----------- ----3-----------------5--------3---------------------5-------3---------------- ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------* ---------9----8-----------------7-----6-----------------------6-----7--------- --------* ---7----------------9-----5-----------------7----5----7----------------------- --------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 22 02:36:19 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 02:36:19 EST Subject: Hawkwind - tab for ARIOCH Message-ID: In a message dated 22/02/02 6:03:30 PM Cen. Australia Daylight Time, Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM writes: > the little stars ( * ) indicate a repeat > > > ARIOCH > Damn emails grrrrr any one else get a garbled mess?? Well, if you want a copy that you can actually read - email me privatley and I'll send you a copy in word Sorry about that - beyond my control tho Ni! From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 22 13:31:31 2002 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:31:31 -0000 Subject: HW: Prog Rock Message-ID: Hello all! Forgive me if this has been posted already, but tonight on channel E4 at 10pm there is another chance to see Hawkwind on the Top Ten Progressive Rock programme. Best wishes Kris From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Fri Feb 22 14:36:28 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:36:28 -0600 Subject: off: Warlocks Message-ID: Saw the Warlocks here in Minneapolis last night. Pretty good show, any spacerocker should get in to it. They mentioned they'll be in Chicago tonight. I heard a lot of comparison to Brian Jonestown Massacre and Spaceman 3. From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Fri Feb 22 14:42:49 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:42:49 -0600 Subject: off: warlocks tour dates Message-ID: The Warlocks February 19 - Denver - 15th St. Tavern 21 - Minneapolis - 7th St. Entry 22 - Chicago - Beat Kitchen (w/Helen Stellar) 23 - Cleveland - Beachland Ballroom (just for keith) 24 - Oberlin, OH - On Campus 25 - Rochester, NY - Bug Jar (w/Schvilkus, Kill Myself on Monday) 26 - London, ONT - Call the Office 27 - Toronto - Tequila Lounge 28 - Buffalo, NY - Mohawk Place March 1 - New Brunswick, NJ - Court Tavern 2 - NYC - Mercury Lounge 3 - Cambridge, MA - T.T. the Bears 4 - Brooklyn, NY - Luxx 6 - New York - Brownies (w/Soundtrack, Blkue Green, Dream Lovers) 7 - Philadelphia - Khyber Pass (w/Three 4 Tens, Vexers) 8 - Charlotte, NC - Casbah 9 - Memphis - Hi-Tone 10 - New Orleans - El Matadorr 11 - Houston - Rudyards 13 - Austin - SXSW - Hard Rock Cafe 14 - Austin - SXSW - Emo's (afternoon show) 15 - Dallas - Spiderbaby 20 - San Francisco - Covered Wagon 21 - Eugene - Sanurai Duck 22 - Portland - Satyricon 23 - Seattle - Graceland 24 - Missoula, MT - Jay's 25 - Denver - 15th St. Tavern 26 - Pueblo, CO - Pixie Inn 27 - Albuquerque - Launchpad 28 - tba 29 - Las Vegas - tba 30 - Pomona - Glass House (w/Radar Bros.) 31 - San Diego - Casbah From Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 24 09:16:11 2002 From: Michaelangelo68 at AOL.COM (Michael W Blackman) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:16:11 EST Subject: Hawkwind - tab for 5th Second of forever instr. intro Message-ID: http://www.aliendream.net/electric_tepee/enter.htm >> Enter >> Hawkwind For Guitar Mb From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Feb 24 11:38:23 2002 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:38:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: RIP Doug Ferguson Message-ID: Hi Folks... Yet more sad news in the music world. Doug Ferguson, from the band Yeti though he'd also performed with other Texas area bands like Ohm and Vas Deferens Organization, passed away this weekend due to lung and kidney failure caused by pancreatitis. He was only 32 years old. Keith H. From gtfreid at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Feb 24 14:57:12 2002 From: gtfreid at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (Gordon Reid) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:57:12 -0500 Subject: HW.looking for new Trades Message-ID: Hi all, At last im back on the List. Anyone out there looking to get some Hawkwind trades going with me if your intrested e-mail me off the list or just post back to this message and i will get in touch with you. Cheers, Gordon. From Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM Sun Feb 24 14:00:19 2002 From: Deadearnest at BTOPENWORLD.COM (Andrew Garibaldi) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:00:19 -0000 Subject: HW: Another batch deleted Message-ID: Just to let you know that, as of 22nd Feb, the Hawkwind digipak releases of the first album through to Mountain Grill have all now been officially deleted by EMI so you can only order the jewel case versions through retail outlets now. Andy G. From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Feb 25 04:58:22 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:58:22 -0000 Subject: HW & Motorhead get a mention in the Press today Message-ID: OK, so only in London's free Mero paper, but both HW and Motorhead get credited as being in the Top Five Biker Bands (OK, so Steppenwolf and Meatloaf beat them, but any publicity's good). From mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK Mon Feb 25 07:06:17 2002 From: mark.von-bargen at GENIEONE.CO.UK (=?iso-8859-1?b?TWFyayBWb24gQmFyZ2Vu?=) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:06:17 +0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?UmU6ICAgICAgSFcgJiBNb3RvcmhlYWQgZ2V0IGEgbWVudGlvbiBpbiB0aGUgUHJlc3MgdG9kYXk=?= Message-ID: So the 5th band must have been ..... .... Dumpy's Rusty Nuts !! Mark -- Mark Von Bargen mark.von-bargen at genieone.co.uk - email ---- Kevin Perry wrote: ---------------- OK, so only in London's free Mero paper, but both HW and Motorhead get credited as being in the Top Five Biker Bands (OK, so Steppenwolf and Meatloaf beat them, but any publicity's good). ---------------- __________________________________________________ Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Feb 25 07:11:45 2002 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:11:45 -0000 Subject: HW & Motorhead get a mention in the Press today Message-ID: Zodiac Mindwarp... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Von Bargen" To: Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 12:06 PM Subject: Re: HW & Motorhead get a mention in the Press today > So the 5th band must have been ..... > > .... Dumpy's Rusty Nuts !! > > Mark > > -- > Mark Von Bargen > mark.von-bargen at genieone.co.uk - email > > > > > ---- Kevin Perry wrote: > > ---------------- > OK, so only in London's free Mero paper, but both HW and Motorhead get > credited as being in the Top Five Biker Bands (OK, so Steppenwolf and > Meatloaf beat them, but any publicity's good). > ---------------- > > > > __________________________________________________ > Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. > Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk From chrisr at TIAC.NET Mon Feb 25 09:02:21 2002 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:02:21 -0500 Subject: warlocks tour dates In-Reply-To: <002b01c1bbd9$1c8bb5e0$63a4e73f@m8v3c0> Message-ID: Not to be naive, but what kind of music do the Warlocks play? I am interested in hearing them in Boston next week, but have not heard of them. Thanks a lot, Chris -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Dan Witt Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:43 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: off: warlocks tour dates The Warlocks February 19 - Denver - 15th St. Tavern 21 - Minneapolis - 7th St. Entry 22 - Chicago - Beat Kitchen (w/Helen Stellar) 23 - Cleveland - Beachland Ballroom (just for keith) 24 - Oberlin, OH - On Campus 25 - Rochester, NY - Bug Jar (w/Schvilkus, Kill Myself on Monday) 26 - London, ONT - Call the Office 27 - Toronto - Tequila Lounge 28 - Buffalo, NY - Mohawk Place March 1 - New Brunswick, NJ - Court Tavern 2 - NYC - Mercury Lounge 3 - Cambridge, MA - T.T. the Bears 4 - Brooklyn, NY - Luxx 6 - New York - Brownies (w/Soundtrack, Blkue Green, Dream Lovers) 7 - Philadelphia - Khyber Pass (w/Three 4 Tens, Vexers) 8 - Charlotte, NC - Casbah 9 - Memphis - Hi-Tone 10 - New Orleans - El Matadorr 11 - Houston - Rudyards 13 - Austin - SXSW - Hard Rock Cafe 14 - Austin - SXSW - Emo's (afternoon show) 15 - Dallas - Spiderbaby 20 - San Francisco - Covered Wagon 21 - Eugene - Sanurai Duck 22 - Portland - Satyricon 23 - Seattle - Graceland 24 - Missoula, MT - Jay's 25 - Denver - 15th St. Tavern 26 - Pueblo, CO - Pixie Inn 27 - Albuquerque - Launchpad 28 - tba 29 - Las Vegas - tba 30 - Pomona - Glass House (w/Radar Bros.) 31 - San Diego - Casbah From novadrive at COX.NET Mon Feb 25 16:25:22 2002 From: novadrive at COX.NET (KevinSommers) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:25:22 -0700 Subject: warlocks tour dates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've only got their first EP, which is sort of poppy stoner rock. I'm hoping that the tba on 3/28 turns out to be in the Phoenix area... If you go to CDNOW, you can hear some sound samples: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1680661513/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/po psearch.html/clickID=tn_srch_txt KevinSommers "Craziness, down through history, has performed impressively" -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Chris Raymond Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:02 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: warlocks tour dates Not to be naive, but what kind of music do the Warlocks play? I am interested in hearing them in Boston next week, but have not heard of them. Thanks a lot, Chris From hw at CY-B.ORG Mon Feb 25 17:30:01 2002 From: hw at CY-B.ORG (Rik Rx) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:30:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Release Updates Message-ID: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: + + + +STAR WARRIORS Please visit Mission Control Updates for newly posted information on some very special upcoming releases..... http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/up_.htm ++ MISSION ENDS ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From Warren_Oates at MSN.COM Mon Feb 25 18:18:17 2002 From: Warren_Oates at MSN.COM (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:18:17 -0600 Subject: warlocks tour dates Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "KevinSommers" To: Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: warlocks tour dates > I've only got their first EP, which is sort of poppy stoner rock. I'm Here is an MP3 sample of what they played in Minneapolis. It's 2900 kb, file is sound2mp3.mp3 http://briefcase.yahoo.com/mongolian_stopper From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Feb 25 18:56:45 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:56:45 -0000 Subject: HW & Motorhead get a mention in the Press today Message-ID: Sadly, Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love Reaction beat them to it. I think Dumpy must have been no. 6, and Engine no. 7. A bit like I always suspect that when the papers print a list of the top ten holiday resorts, Huddersfield must always be number eleven... :-) Cheers, Rich. (Who's about to go and listen to "Somewhere in England"...) > So the 5th band must have been ..... > > .... Dumpy's Rusty Nuts !! > > Mark > > -- > Mark Von Bargen > mark.von-bargen at genieone.co.uk - email > > > > > ---- Kevin Perry wrote: > > ---------------- > OK, so only in London's free Mero paper, but both HW and Motorhead get > credited as being in the Top Five Biker Bands (OK, so Steppenwolf and > Meatloaf beat them, but any publicity's good). > ---------------- > > > > __________________________________________________ > Receive and manage your emails, voicemails and faxes with GenieOne. > Sign up today! www.genieone.co.uk > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 25 18:57:21 2002 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 18:57:21 EST Subject: HW & Motorhead get a mention in the Press today Message-ID: In a message dated 2/25/02 5:03:27 AM US Eastern Standard Time, kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET writes: > both HW and Motorhead get > At least they're in the top five! Joe From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Feb 25 19:55:43 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:55:43 -0000 Subject: OFF:International Repetitive Strain Injury Awareness Day Message-ID: Just thought that I'd mention to all the three chord bloozers out there that this is on the 28th of February, and information on it can be found at http://www.rsi.org.uk (Alright, it's a blatent plug for my first full freelance project, and no, it doesn't work on Opera or NS6 unless you use the text only version!) :-) Let me know what you think. Cheers, Rich. ps - Someone tell Rick Parfitt? From nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM Mon Feb 25 20:22:58 2002 From: nick at THECOMPLETESHEET.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:22:58 UT Subject: OFF: Motorhead's new album Message-ID: I don't know if I'm way behind the times, but I just found out that Motorhead's new album will be called "Hammered", and will be out April 9th in the US. . . April 8th UK. BTW. . . Does anyone have Joey Ramone's album? If so, how is it? --Nick From rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK Mon Feb 25 20:35:28 2002 From: rich at BEERPOWEREDNOISEFRENZY.CO.UK (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:35:28 -0000 Subject: Joey Ramone's solo album Message-ID: > > Does anyone have Joey Ramone's album? If so, how is it? > Nope, but MOJO gave it a very good review. Think Q did as well. I'll be buying it. Cheers, Rich. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Feb 26 00:06:27 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:06:27 EST Subject: OFF: RIP Doug Ferguson Message-ID: In a message dated 2/24/02 8:59:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > Hi Folks... > > Yet more sad news in the music world. Doug Ferguson, from the band Yeti > though he'd also performed with other Texas area bands like Ohm and Vas > Deferens Organization, passed away this weekend due to lung and kidney > failure caused by pancreatitis. He was only 32 years old. > > Keith H. > Ugh... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Feb 26 00:45:55 2002 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:45:55 EST Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/23 (and NOTES) Message-ID: Note 1: To whom it may concern, I have a new mailing address and phone #: 22491 De Berry St, #M161, Grand Terrace, Ca. 92313 (909)-422-0429 Note 2: In honor of the passing away of Doug Ferguson, this week's SDNC (March 2) will feature some of his work w/Yeti, Ohm and the Vas Deferens Organization. thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. Space/Kraut/Psyche/Electronic/Experimental/Prog/Rock'n'Roll/Whims TO LISTEN ON THE WEB, GO TO: http://kucr.org/instruct.html For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list (REALLY!), e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. E-MAIL me at the Station during my program for the famous "comments, questions and recommendations" at the same e-mail as above: or give a call at: 909-787-KUCR thanks, Chuck 2/23 1.Neutral Milk Hotel-- "Song Against Sex" (On Avery Island: 1995; Merge) 2.Mazinga Phaser-- "Wee-Gee" (Dissatisfied Customers of Hallucination; Idol) 3.Legendary Pink Dots-- "Evolution" 4.Loopian Zu-- "Intelligence Park/Aquawalk" (Valley of the Brains; Warped and Wound) 5.Igra Staklenih Perli-- "Gusterov Trg" (ST'd) 6.Melodic Energy Commission-- "Song of the Delatron" (Stranger in Mystery/Moon Phase Compendium; Energy/Vapor) 7.Nik Turner-- "Fallout" (Prophets of Time; Cleopatra) 8.Kingston Wall-- "On My Own/The Weep/Mushrooms" (I; Zen Garden Oy) 9.Plexus-- "Plexus 2001" (ST'd; Mother West) 10.Spectrum/Silver Apples-- "Whirlwind" (A Lake of Teardrops EP; Space Age/Orbit) 11.Hawkwind-- "Motorway City" (Undisclosed Files-Addendum; Griffin) 12.Mr. Quimby's Beard-- "Quartermass and the Pit" (forth-coming comp on Black Widow) 13.Mandragora Lightshow Society-- "Point Me at the Sky" (Beyond the Mushroam Gate; Liquid Sound) 14.Mushroom-- "For Men with Beards" (Foxy Music; Innerspace/Clearspot) 15.Neutral Milk Hotel-- "Marching Theme" (On Avery Island: 1995) 16.Farflung-- "Breach of Eye" (forth-coming album on Brainticket) thanks, Chuck From deltawave at METRONET.COM Tue Feb 26 06:10:52 2002 From: deltawave at METRONET.COM (mike c) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:10:52 -0600 Subject: OFF: ACID In-Reply-To: <12a.cb0468e.29a716b8@aol.com> Message-ID: >Ali broke my speaker...garth must die...Allmans blow big time..don't take the >fall for chers boyfriend...must sleep......BAJINA is king >sorry they do actually put a chemical in this cardboard..speaker broken.... >Mommy waiting for the late show to end > >best regards, >b My surround amp melted and it smelled that nasty electrical smell and it almost went into flames...while my drunk friend sat wondering about the smell the darkness Bajina.......I could do that From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 27 02:52:15 2002 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 02:52:15 EST Subject: forward to official site LOL Message-ID: from www.hardradio.com: > MOTORHEAD's Boneshaker live album/DVD will now be issued in North America in > May. The delay is due to problems in getting the necessary components for > the North American DVD (Zone 1). > bobm From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Feb 27 21:21:38 2002 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:21:38 EST Subject: HW: Full Hawkestra set available for trade Message-ID: In a message dated 2/18/2002 10:17:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << For us unenlightened capitalist running dogs >> Ya forgot "ROADERS" bill From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 28 10:51:48 2002 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 15:51:48 GMT Subject: Calling Edinburgh fans Message-ID: The Hawksign flies above the castle. Fans should repair to The Holyrood Tavern in the Cowgate at 9pm tonight. Make yourselves known to our Agents of Chaos there... FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 28 10:14:41 2002 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:14:41 EDT Subject: Buck in this month's Guitar World In-Reply-To: <200202281551.PAA23507@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Really nice feature-length piece on B?C in the new Guitar World. Includes a great guitar lesson by Buck. Check it out! theo